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In order to Rally people 
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want us to be afraid to hate, so
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And if they do not have a real 
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order to mobilize us. 
Welcome to Keith's night. 

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Don't try it on anyone in the 
libertarian Institute today. 

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I am joined by Clint of liberty 
lockdown, Clint. 

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Where is the best place for 
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podcast? 
Spotify, iTunes, YouTube, just 

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Links will be in the description
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So Clint the other day. 
I was catching up on some on top

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of PFS speeches and he has a 
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there's a major contradiction 
99% of intellectual say the 

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state is a necessary 
institution. 

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Also monopolies are evil and we 
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these. 
Also, the state should 

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monopolize money and they should
monopolize Taxation and they 

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should have been opalized 
legislation. 

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And they should monopolize the 
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How can you believe something? 
So, blatantly contradictory? 

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So Clint, my opening question to
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How do we get people to want to 
see through such blatant 

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propaganda? 
Well, I thought about this a lot

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and I think ultimately, it 
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know that they're being 
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foremost, because this is kind 
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that we all have all the time. 
Is that unless Less you are 

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aware. 
You're being propaganda. 

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Is you can't want to see through
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It's kind of I think for me. 
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realized contradictions and I 
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that government is a monopoly 
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be fighting monopolies. 
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is the solution when you're just
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another. 
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to, you have to allow people to 
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way to wake them up. 
Faster than they already are. 

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Unfortunately. 
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I think that the V rollouts have
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So I'm hopeful. 
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off, extremely Black Gold 
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I'm pretty hopeful that that 
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Excellent. 

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So I came across this article 
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the face as far as propaganda 
goes, because usually it's very 

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subtle and in Paragraph nine out
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You'll find a line. 
That's like that's a dog whistle

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for people in power to use a 
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drastically increase power. 
That's not what we're dealing 

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with today at all. 
This is from foreign policy.com.

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It says the pandemic proves only
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This is by parag Khanna. 
This is a guy who wrote a book 

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called American technocracy the 
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So let's just go With, but let's
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The pandemic proves only 
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What are your thoughts on that 
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Well, I mean after the past 18 
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are the people that can save us 
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ruled by the technocratic elite,
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dictate everything. 
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shut down our businesses and 
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put things that our body. 
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done has been technically. 
Secrecy. 

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So it's like it's astonishing 
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after I mean it do they view it 
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Did they view the vaccine roll 
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They view the lockout. 
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The only answer is yes, they 
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entire thesis is null, the 
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Is that what we're so busy 
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What the numbers are, or aren't 
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Meanwhile. 
We're totally giving them the 

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Field of. 
Yeah, you have the right to rule

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Let's argue about how we're 
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If you don't have this, 
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the back of your mind at all 
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No wonder you're so easily to 
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Bill Gates was just on. 
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said, you know, we're going to 
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increased lockdowns away. 
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like Australia of all the 
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He could have chosen. 
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Has Australia where there is 
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orwellian. 
Tyranny, you know, places like 

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New Zealand. 
They get one case in the that 

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the entire thing locks down. 
You have any ideas on how to 

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combat the mindset of I listened
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Therefore. 
I'm superior to those who listen

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to liberty lockdown, right? 
Well, I would encourage people 

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to measure my accuracy versus 
falchions. 

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I like Go through my catalog of 
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real time. 
What's occurring with the 

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pandemic versus foul cheese 
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And if you, if you conclude 
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me, then stick with him. 
But I promise you, you won't. 

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I mean, this is, this is why I 
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I mean, this is, it's hilarious 
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exactly what conspiracy theories
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that there's this, there's this 
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to rule over us and they 
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And and it's just they come out 
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yep, that's exactly what we're 
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And also, it's a good thing. 
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Then I get we can't go through 
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because we'll be here forever. 
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the subheading populist 
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politicians, see democracy is 
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We need the people to be 
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But whenever it's a democratic 
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well, that's dumb populism. 
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It's just you being popular. 
There's no principles behind it.

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They have this day of two 
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exact thing. 
Democracy. 

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Good populism, bad. 
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Populist politicians. 
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when it's a matter of life and 
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principle and expertise are what
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sentence. 
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Situation's dire, it's important
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The problem is is that 
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information is best acquired 
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where you're allowing, you know,
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to be doing their own research 
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opposed to this top-down 
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I mean it's it's completely 
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my entire life. 
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number of covid-19 casualties. 
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market and then the sentence 
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So in other words, he's saying 
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Don't you love how they take the
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human? 
Beings are free to voluntarily 

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associate and he goes, no. 
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debate. 
The debate is this number of the

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on the, the Dow Jones Industrial
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Well, how do you accurately 
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The 7 of this year alone. 
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what the actual debate is around
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I'm sorry. 
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Economics which are economic 
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the reason we value that is 
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human suffering. 
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the reason we want to acquire 
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and purchase things, too. 
Benefit our lives in to live 

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healthier and happier lives. 
So it completely misses the 

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It goes to this dollars and 

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When ultimately, this is, the 
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exclusively on human suffering 
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pandemic and you're dealing with
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And what has it done to people 
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Anyways, I can go on forever so 
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Vitally important point. 
Thank you for pointing that out.

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When it comes to the debate 
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Let's just narrowly focus on. 
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Stockwell, what we answered the 
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What do you say to people when 
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The casualties are so high. 
Sometimes, you have to crack a 

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few eggs to make an omelet. 
The egg cracking is the 

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lockdowns. 
The omelet is the future of 

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civilization. 
How do you respond to that 

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mindset of? 
I don't care about and I just 

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want the low numbers. 
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different ways. 
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If they are hard graphs and 
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I'll point out how much better 
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done without the harsh. 
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spending sings of that nature. 
If it's someone I think I can 

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reach on a moral philosophical 
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I will counter it with human 
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And do you believe in Freedom? 
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individuals? 
Have rights that supersede the 

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collective. 
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that? 
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I'm not sure we have much more 
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will certainly try and shame 
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The fact that you are dismissing
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moment. 
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is trying to explain that the, 
the ultimate toll that it's 

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taking on human psychology and 
the fact that, you know, we may 

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end up losing more lives. 
Because of what were the scope 

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of the government that were 
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And like, is that trade-off? 
Is that risk worth while? 

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You know, so you can hit him on 
a thousand angles. 

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Honestly. 
I love what you said about 

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potentially shaming them, if 
they're not listening to reason 

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because I love giving people 
both, I love saying here's the 

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reason and then when the vast 
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spit in my face at in response, 
you can always use what I know. 

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I ran called the argument from 
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show disapproval. 
Okay, so you think some people 

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own the bodies of others that 
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they do. 
You are much more focused on 

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numbers. 
So in 1860 your argument would 

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have been let's run the GDP 
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What unsaved individuals will 
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Let's look at all welfare 
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more productive if they were 
enslaved. 

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So you don't have any 
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You're just an animal going off 
Instinct. 

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I You letting me know that that 
might do. 

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That might actually do, it might
not change their mind, but it 

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might get them to shut up and 
not make that next cringe, Tick 

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Tock video that guilt other 
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You're exactly right. 
I'll be there. 

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That's kind of, like my last 
line of defense. 

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I'm just like, I think what 
you're doing is monstrous. 

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So, if I've given you rational 
explanations and logical 

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counters and all sorts of, you 
know, statistical examples as to

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why you're wrong and you're 
still not hearing me. 

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I'll just make you feel bad. 
I'm not above that. 

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Exactly. 
Have you taken the covid? 

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Charts test. 
By Tom Woods? 

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I think I did it along like 
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Did it's been out for a while, 
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It's looking out for a while. 
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no longer need the well, you 
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Mass mandates and lower numbers 
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within America or even in Asia, 
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compare Asia to America. 
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response to it. 
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Mississippi or something, where 
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this. 
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case that well, you have to give
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so you can get all these better 
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You don't even get the better 
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often the case. 
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Is that even when it sounds like
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I mean, it's almost never gets 
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class the very smart people of 
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more humility after a 20-year 
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Taliban taking over an 11 days. 
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know, a quagmire or a blunder, 
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call it evil when you know, 
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least they got a wreck. 
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congresswoman who voted against 
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unwinnable war and it's going to
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Taliban is going to be just as 
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ever the extra class. 
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refused to even reflect on it. 
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at all the moral failings of our
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masking our own women and 
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Akka to 2021 America is 
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that's how you know, Osama Bin 
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I mean, he bankrupted us. 
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could view this as anything 
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loss in military history for 
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I mean, it's really bad and look
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Of course, they will. 
Pin it on, you know, put People 

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Like Us. 
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we never should have gone, or we
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Taliban and Bush should have 
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mentions in the Afghanistan 
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He says, yeah, we gave them an 
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public support behind our our 
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mullah Omar, handing over Bin 
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So, what they do is, you know, 
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then blame the people who Ooh, 
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gone in the first place. 
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our article here? 
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Well, we need to lock down and 
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and then they blame everyone 
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a vaccine and then they get the 
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They will never admit they're 
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So to give them any leeway. 
You can't give them what Tyler 

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Cowen and Alex. 
Rockdale so-called Libertarians 

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the Cato world of. 
Well, let's give it a shot and 

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see if it works but they've 
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conclusion. 
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paragraph to the Cano says, but 
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So. 
He's already thanking them 

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before it happens. 
How does he know? 

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It's not going to be a, you 
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the middle of nowhere, who come 
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With you know, who come up with 
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I don't know, long story short. 
He's already saying that I'm 

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already thinking those in power.
I have no clue how this is going

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to end. 
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created and in a lab in Wuhan. 
There you go. 

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Any thoughts on that. 
Well, a ton of thoughts. 

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I mean, back to your first 
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This is the exact same argument 
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no matter what the outcome. 
It's just we didn't have enough 

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money. 
You gave them all the money in 

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the world and the results were 
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because we didn't have enough 
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with Afghanistan now. 
Well, it's been 20 years. 

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But if it had been 25, you don't
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You don't know that. 
It might have been great. 

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I mean, we might have created 
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So it's a, you know, 
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assertion. 
Essentially. 

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It's like, yeah, I mean you can 
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But we gave you motherfuckers, 
20 years, and you didn't 

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accomplish anything. 
So I'm going to air on On the 

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side of you being wrong and me 
being right? 

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And it's got hardened is said, 
you know, even if you believe 

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that we should have invaded we 
should have been out by December

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of 01. 
I mean, it should have been over

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by then because if they were 
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you're done. 
So on all counts on all fronts, 

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what they claim to be doing with
that war was a lie, and I think 

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that what they claim to be doing
with the lockdowns, is also a 

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lie. 
I don't think it has to do with 

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covid and I know it gets into 
Alex Jones, woo, world. 

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Comic Forum conspiracy land, but
I believe that I believe that 

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there's no justifiable reason 
for them to be doing a global 

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rollout of what I consider 
totalitarianism. 

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I mean, they are treating us 
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They are talking about, not 
allowing us to leave our car 

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States, our countries, our 
homes. 

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I mean, it is absolute Madness 
and they have somehow 

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manipulated the public into 
believing at least half of the 

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people. 
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That this is good, that this is 
how we should be responding to a

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virus that is relatively benign.
Sorry. 

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I went off on a total tangent 
there. 

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But well, I think you're right. 
Get, you're totally right. 

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Of course. 
This was the ultimate. 

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You no excuse for them to do 
everything that they've wanted 

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to do. 
Anyways. 

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Yeah. 
I looked into the situation. 

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Long story short, my 
organization gets a ton of money

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in a ton of power. 
Well, I'm sure that's the 

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conclusion. 
You came to her. 

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Out convenient, the same people 
who since you know, what the 

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first world war. 
The Spanish American war have 

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have the same Progressive 
mindset or neocon mindset, 

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whatever, even on the right. 
It's some people wanting to 

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control others. 
I mean, to be totally honest, 

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even if he gave the kindest 
person, this amount of power, it

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would literally be like the Ring
in Lord of the Rings were, the 

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nicest person would be like, oh 
my God, like if I got this 

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amount of power tomorrow, I'm 
like, all right. 

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I can finally shut down. 
Cooler talk. 

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And I can take down The Young 
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All, this is gonna be great. 
You guys would never hear from 

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me again. 
High tide, be in teheran evil. 

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It's it's so difficult. 
And one other note, you know, 

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his, his assertion that we're 
going to thank the technocrats 

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at the end of this. 
I'm still Pretty, pretty 

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staunchly of the belief that we 
would be in this position. 

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If not in a better position 
without lockdowns, without the 

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vaccine roll out without 
anything. 

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If the government, I still 
believe this, I believed it 45 

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days in, I believe it to this 
day, had we had the government 

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do nothing. 
We would be in a better 

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position. 
Now, I think that there's a high

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probability that we don't have 
the Delta variant that we don't 

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have the next variant if we're 
not vaccinating. 

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There's there's a lot of It is 
that that's actually what's 

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transpiring. 
And then you also have the 

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lockdowns, which reduce people's
immune response. 

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You have the fact that they're 
not getting enough Sun then so 

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they don't have enough vitamin D
there. 

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I mean, there are so many layers
to this and it is so many 

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factors that it's, I can't, I 
can't prove it. 

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I mean, there's so much 
manipulation. 

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I can't know, but I know as well
as he does as to. 

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What's gonna, who's gonna be 
responsible for us, prevailing 

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over covid. 
As if we are ever going to 

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Prevail. 
My personal opinion is going to 

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be endemic. 
We're gonna have covid-19 of our

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fucking Human existence, so, do 
you remember when this first 

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came out? 
And it was like, ALC, Donald 

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Trump. 
Even Gordon Ramsay was saying in

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order to fight this, what you 
need to do is wash your hands, 

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keep your hands clean. 
Don't touch your eyes nose and 

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mouth. 
That's where the virus gets in. 

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Yep. 
And then they have completely 

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dropped that. 
The science is both objectively 

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clear. 
And it also changes all the time

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day and of course, fauci was on 
60 Minutes and you don't need 

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masks and you don't get to Say, 
well, he looked into it and 

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using the scientific method 
changed his professional 

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opinion. 
Well, he never apologized for 

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getting it wrong, if he was 
really sorry, and it was some 

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terrible accident or Eve a I, 
uh, I told him the wrong thing. 

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I got to go chain, guys. 
I gotta clarify. 

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I got to step down. 
I got a resign. 

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We got a fire people for getting
this so wrong. 

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It's so important. 
They really didn't care. 

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Surgeon. 
General was tweeting out people.

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Stop, buying mass that are 
pretty much a waste. 

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Waste the World Health 
Organization was saying, Chinese

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officials have looked into it. 
Virus doesn't go from person to 

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person. 
It's sort of like shingles. 

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Some people have the virus in 
them. 

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It's not contagious. 
Cancer is not contagious that 

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way. 
So yeah, I think the lack of 

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apologies are probably the best 
indicator that it's not a 

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difference of a world view. 
It's some people trying to 

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control others. 
Well that and it's also I mean, 

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it's just it's just such 
incredible hubris, like when 

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they talk about the updated 
science, they will acknowledge 

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the Changes, you know, the any 
time they get caught up in that.

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Well the science of Olives, the 
science changed, you can't blame

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me. 
But then I'm going to speak with

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the same exact level of, you 
know, Authority. 

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As I did six months ago. 
When I told you the exact 

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opposite thing and you're 
supposed to trust me and you and

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if you question me, you're a 
science denying asshole, you 

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know, it's like it's so 
frustrating. 

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It's like, how do you not know 
what I was just watching. 

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You say the opposite thing. 
Not not too long ago. 

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Oh 14 days to flatten the curve.
It's like when Peter Griffin 

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tries to keep getting free 
samples. 

456
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So he puts on a mustache, then 
he puts on glasses. 

457
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:34,400
They're not fooling anyone. 
You're the same girl screwing 

458
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,400
us. 
Nothing has changed page, two 

459
00:23:38,900 --> 00:23:43,400
Rising geopolitical tensions. 
Even the first three words of 

460
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:47,800
that sent Rising geopolitical. 
So things are extremely complex.

461
00:23:48,100 --> 00:23:51,900
There's so much tension that 
now, Clint you're just too. 

462
00:23:52,100 --> 00:23:53,800
Done. 
We need the technocrats or take 

463
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,500
over. 
They try to get you in this, the

464
00:23:57,500 --> 00:24:00,200
world is so complex. 
Know the world is complex. 

465
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,300
And that's why having 
technocrats with so much power 

466
00:24:02,300 --> 00:24:06,000
is the worst approach to the 
complexities of the world that 

467
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:11,300
we live in great three words and
and they're so on this Rising 

468
00:24:11,300 --> 00:24:14,300
geopolitical tensions, the 
governance of a frontier 

469
00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:17,000
Technologies, like, artificial 
intelligence and climate change 

470
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:21,000
are other existential issues 
where Global cooperation at the 

471
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,000
moment can be Best be described 
as kicking the can down the road

472
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:27,200
but crisis management is not the
same as problem. 

473
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:30,700
Solving that requires a strong 
Global application of the 

474
00:24:30,700 --> 00:24:34,600
precautionary principle as well 
as the provocative steering of 

475
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,000
large-scale resources to 
Solutions. 

476
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,600
If you want a better world for 
your children, don't hold your 

477
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:42,100
breath. 
For Global Democratic 

478
00:24:42,100 --> 00:24:44,800
deliberation response to that 
paragraph. 

479
00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:51,200
Well, first off the assertion 
that we need of global 

480
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,000
governance. 
To Ai and all these new 

481
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,000
technologies I think is 
horrifying. 

482
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,100
I was actually talking to my 
friend last night about this and

483
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:02,300
and you know, she was like 
artificial artificial 

484
00:25:02,300 --> 00:25:04,900
intelligence is really scary. 
And I was like, I'll grant you 

485
00:25:04,900 --> 00:25:06,900
that I think it is scary and 
she's like, in the government 

486
00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:08,300
doesn't even have any 
regulations for it. 

487
00:25:08,300 --> 00:25:12,200
I was like do you think if they 
were to roll out regulations for

488
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:15,900
AI that it wouldn't be written 
by Google and Facebook and apple

489
00:25:15,900 --> 00:25:19,000
and everybody that has a 
financial interest in it and 

490
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:21,000
right away. 
She was like, yeah, it would I 

491
00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:23,300
was like, okay, so The 
regulations are worthless. 

492
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,700
I mean ultimately it's going to 
come down to abolishing the 

493
00:25:25,708 --> 00:25:29,300
government and then as having 
some sort of cultural agreement 

494
00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:34,500
as to what what level of AI 
becomes too dangerous for, you 

495
00:25:34,500 --> 00:25:37,000
know, Humanity's existence. 
Sorry. 

496
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,000
I got I got sidetracked. 
But what any other? 

497
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,600
So so so let's just let you take
this. 

498
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,800
He mentions all in one in order 
to get Gallup. 

499
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,500
Has he says, geopolitical 
tensions. 

500
00:25:49,500 --> 00:25:54,100
So foreign policy artificial 
Origins climate State climate 

501
00:25:54,100 --> 00:25:57,500
change, other existential 
issues, getting into 

502
00:25:57,500 --> 00:26:01,800
existentialism, the philosophy 
of existence, he throws 

503
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:05,400
everything in there to make you 
feel dumb and insecure and to 

504
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,500
hand that. 
So you're much more likely to 

505
00:26:07,500 --> 00:26:10,500
say, well let let the wiser 
people figure this out. 

506
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:13,900
See the great thing about 
volunteerism is, if you're 

507
00:26:13,900 --> 00:26:18,400
extremely insecure about your 
money, you can delegate your 

508
00:26:18,500 --> 00:26:21,300
rights to an accountant. 
I don't think I'm good with 

509
00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:23,700
engineering. 
So I buy a computer and a 

510
00:26:23,708 --> 00:26:27,500
microphone and a cell phone 
instead of making one myself. 

511
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:30,700
That's me delegating expertise 
to people who know far more than

512
00:26:30,700 --> 00:26:32,500
me. 
No one's saying no. 

513
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:35,100
Even says we're Global 
cooperation. 

514
00:26:35,100 --> 00:26:36,800
At the moment. 
Can best be described as kicking

515
00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,100
the can down the road. 
So even Global voluntary 

516
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:43,000
cooperation. 
He just calling it kicking the 

517
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,600
can down the road. 
He Advocates, large-scale 

518
00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:49,300
resources to Solutions. 
Don't hold your breath for 

519
00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:52,900
Democratic deliberation. 
So he was He was saying that 

520
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,200
Global voluntary cooperation was
kicking. 

521
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,400
The can down the road is that 
implying that that it has to not

522
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,000
be voluntary, you know, he says,
we're Global cooperation at the 

523
00:27:03,008 --> 00:27:05,200
moment, can best be described as
kicking the can te. 

524
00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:07,800
So that's not going to work. 
We can't just cooperate. 

525
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,400
So even it's so used to be. 
We need to do this together, 

526
00:27:11,500 --> 00:27:13,400
that was code for the state 
getting involved. 

527
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:17,900
He now is like, completely 
thrown cooperation out the 

528
00:27:17,900 --> 00:27:20,900
window all together. 
This is this is exactly what de 

529
00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,200
Blasio. 
Said this morning. 

530
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,200
He's like he's like we people 
respond best when we have 

531
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,300
carrots and we have sticks. 
We've tried the carrots and he 

532
00:27:31,308 --> 00:27:33,200
doesn't say now, it's time for 
the stick. 

533
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,700
But you know what? 
The implication is there. 

534
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,100
This sounds like that. 
To me. 

535
00:27:36,100 --> 00:27:38,800
It sounds like the same claim 
that like what we tried telling 

536
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,800
you plebs what to do, and how to
survive this, you didn't fucking

537
00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:45,800
listens and how we have to force
it into your body or you can't 

538
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:47,900
live a life of Freedom ever 
again. 

539
00:27:48,100 --> 00:27:51,100
It's like Well, that's a 
declaration of war friend. 

540
00:27:51,100 --> 00:27:53,200
If that's if that's the path. 
You want to take. 

541
00:27:53,500 --> 00:27:56,100
You are declaring war on me. 
Whether I want the vaccine or 

542
00:27:56,108 --> 00:27:58,100
not. 
I'm never going to tell you if 

543
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:00,400
I've taken it because it's none 
of your fucking business. 

544
00:28:00,500 --> 00:28:03,500
And I will continue to live as a
free person for the rest of my 

545
00:28:03,500 --> 00:28:06,100
life. 
And if you infringe upon that, 

546
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,600
you are addressing upon me. 
And I will respond in kind. 

547
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:12,300
That's, that's how I perceive 
all of this and anybody, like 

548
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:15,100
other Libertarians are getting 
into this, like, Private 

549
00:28:15,100 --> 00:28:18,800
property, you know, they have 
the right to disassociate all 

550
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:21,100
this shit. 
I'm like, I'm not having any of 

551
00:28:21,100 --> 00:28:22,800
it. 
It's a fucking declaration of 

552
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,900
war. 
You know what it is. 

553
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,700
If they, it's obviously being 
dictated to them via political 

554
00:28:28,700 --> 00:28:31,900
pressure, Biden, and Cuomo, and 
all of these other assholes have

555
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:34,600
come out and recommended 
strongly that private 

556
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:37,300
businesses, mandate vaccination.
It's like, well, what do you 

557
00:28:37,300 --> 00:28:39,100
think that is? 
Is that not an alliance between 

558
00:28:39,100 --> 00:28:42,000
big business and big government?
Do you there's a word for it, 

559
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,600
you okay with it? 
Because I'm pretty sure I'm not.

560
00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:47,500
I don't know my overstating it. 
What do you think? 

561
00:28:47,700 --> 00:28:50,300
Not at all? 
I love your response to whether 

562
00:28:50,300 --> 00:28:51,800
I get it or not. 
I'm never going to tell you 

563
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,900
because that deprives them of 
what they're really after, which

564
00:28:55,900 --> 00:28:57,900
is just wanting to control other
people. 

565
00:28:58,100 --> 00:29:01,300
I mean, this is that, since the 
Pharaohs of Egypt, we've been 

566
00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:05,000
fighting the battle of the 
information bore of some people 

567
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:08,500
against others, so they could 
violently dominate, them either 

568
00:29:08,500 --> 00:29:12,000
directly or indirectly. 
That's that's the ancient war 

569
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,800
between, you know, human, Things
he goes on to say there are 

570
00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:20,200
numerous examples of the 20th 
century interventions designed 

571
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:23,400
to prevent worst-case scenarios.
You know, what's coming? 

572
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:28,600
This is the best because the 
most common justification for 

573
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:31,400
current state intervention is 
past State intervention. 

574
00:29:31,900 --> 00:29:34,100
They never justify it at the 
moment. 

575
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:37,800
They just do a thing take over, 
you know, large portions of the 

576
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,300
economy in the first world war. 
So next time, there's a 

577
00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:43,500
depression, they say, well, come
on Kaiser Wilhelm was hardly a 

578
00:29:43,500 --> 00:29:46,000
threat to us. 
One knew that at the time. 

579
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:49,600
No, you lied about it, then. 
So, if we do that for Kaiser, 

580
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,600
Wilhelm, well, certainly the 
depression. 

581
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,000
Now, we need to confiscate the 
nation's gold and in turn a 

582
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:58,900
bunch of Japanese people. 
Yep, and I know it every time 

583
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:02,200
and and World War Two is always 
viewed as such a positive and 

584
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,500
FDR is so deified. 
Like he was not one of the worst

585
00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:07,200
tyrants that's ever ruled over 
this country. 

586
00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:10,400
It's it's astonishing. 
How they can rewrite history. 

587
00:30:10,900 --> 00:30:15,100
And that is the power of myth 
and narrative, how they can just

588
00:30:15,100 --> 00:30:19,200
create Heroes and then good will
call you. 

589
00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,800
FDR bad will call you Hitler. 
And now we've pretty much 

590
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,400
decided everything that there is
to even if you even says in the 

591
00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:28,400
Years of World War Two, then 
u.s. 

592
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,800
President Franklin Roosevelt 
conceived of the four policemen 

593
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:35,500
to restrain military. 
Rearmament a coalition that 

594
00:30:35,500 --> 00:30:38,600
became embedded in the United 
Nations security Council. 

595
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:42,600
So in other words, if you 
thought going into the second 

596
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,600
world war was good, then 
technocrats should rule over US 

597
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:50,400
during covid, right? 
Which is just such a like, such 

598
00:30:50,400 --> 00:30:53,000
a leap. 
It's what 75 years ago or 

599
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:56,400
something. 
And Oh my God, and if we wore, 

600
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,100
it's not if it's not a, I mean 
there's a massive genocide going

601
00:31:00,100 --> 00:31:02,600
on and for the record. 
I don't think it happens without

602
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:03,800
World War one. 
I don't think we should have 

603
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,500
been involved regardless, but 
it's a totally different thing. 

604
00:31:06,500 --> 00:31:10,000
So, know the answer to your 
assertion that you that I 

605
00:31:10,008 --> 00:31:11,600
should. 
Now, listen to technocrats is 

606
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:16,300
no, and they never even consider
the cost to covid or the world 

607
00:31:16,300 --> 00:31:18,200
wars. 
They're like, all right, the war

608
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,000
that Britain declared on Germany
because they violated polish 

609
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:26,200
Independence ended with 60. 
And Ed Millions enslaved, 

610
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:29,600
Millions homeless and giving 
Poland to Stalin along with 11 

611
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,100
other countries. 
Okay. 

612
00:31:31,300 --> 00:31:33,400
Can we not say that? 
It's a cut and dry case? 

613
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,700
Can we say that there's both 
pros and cons? 

614
00:31:35,900 --> 00:31:39,300
But that's the great lie. 
Health Care, Free education, 

615
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:43,000
free Ward keeps us, safe. 
Covid, vaccine stops, the 

616
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:47,900
spread, it's all these no cost 
solutions that they're able to 

617
00:31:47,900 --> 00:31:50,300
fake us out with. 
It's actually a Time preference 

618
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:54,000
argument because it's like if 
you if you want the best 

619
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,600
outcome. 
Um, in the short term, you can 

620
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,100
justify a lot of statism. 
You can justify money printing. 

621
00:31:58,100 --> 00:32:00,700
You can justify all sorts of 
malfeasance and terrible 

622
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,200
management of of a Nation. 
But if you want the best for the

623
00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:09,800
long term, individualism, you 
know, fiscal sanity small 

624
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,400
government. 
Those are the things that 

625
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,800
actually get us, you know, the 
brightest tomorrow, but that's 

626
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,600
not how politicians live 
politicians live for that 

627
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:20,000
election tomorrow. 
They don't live for the election

628
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,400
10 years from now, and I think 
that that's a fatal flaw and 

629
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,600
democracy. 
Excellent point. 

630
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:29,300
What I love about this next 
paragraph is their ability to 

631
00:32:29,300 --> 00:32:31,900
admit, the Alex Jones is of the 
world who are right. 

632
00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:35,700
And then still dismiss them 
similar approaches, have 

633
00:32:35,700 --> 00:32:39,200
characterized the US and un 
response to Major demographic 

634
00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:43,300
risks in the 1970. 
Okay, you see, Clint, there's 

635
00:32:43,300 --> 00:32:46,400
risks to the real world and 
risks are bad. 

636
00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:49,800
Unlike handing tons of control 
over the government and all rest

637
00:32:49,800 --> 00:33:02,500
there. 
It doesn't there's does but the 

638
00:33:02,500 --> 00:33:05,900
risk is in not having the 
government in complete control. 

639
00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:07,200
That's the only risk that they 
see. 

640
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:12,200
No, it's terrible in the 1970s 
fearing the security. 

641
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,000
They just want us to be secure 
fearing. 

642
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,900
The security implications of a 
rapidly growing growing world 

643
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:21,200
population. 
The Ford Administration began 

644
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200
significant support for 
population planning. 

645
00:33:24,700 --> 00:33:28,300
Policies such as the mass 
distribution of contraception 

646
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,800
across the developing world that
represented a turning point in 

647
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:35,900
global fertility contributing to
the present plateau of the world

648
00:33:35,900 --> 00:33:39,400
population at almost 8 billion, 
people rather than 15 billion. 

649
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,300
People feared at the time, more 
fake numbers. 

650
00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:47,000
The long story is there was a 
population control plan under 

651
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,300
Ford written by Kissinger titled
National State, security 

652
00:33:50,300 --> 00:33:53,500
memorandum 200. 
So they admit population control

653
00:33:53,500 --> 00:33:55,600
exists. 
And they want to put something 

654
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,500
inside of us that we have no 
clue what it is. 

655
00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:00,300
Can you see why? 
Some of us are a little 

656
00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:02,800
skeptical? 
Not not saying I know for a 

657
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,100
fact, it's evil, but can you see
why some of us are skeptical? 

658
00:34:06,100 --> 00:34:09,300
What do you think about this 
concept of well? 

659
00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:12,199
Comment on anything? 
Well, yeah idea that they'll be 

660
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:15,900
like but population control is a
fake conspiracy theory. 

661
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,300
Alright? 
It exists but it's for the 

662
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:18,699
greater good. 
What a great trick. 

663
00:34:19,199 --> 00:34:21,300
I mean, that's what they do with
most, most of the conspiracy 

664
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:23,300
theories that we have them dead 
to rights on. 

665
00:34:23,500 --> 00:34:26,000
They will, they will. 
Deny it to the end of the Earth.

666
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,300
And then, as soon as you as soon
as you actually like present the

667
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:30,900
evidence, like well, what about 
the CIA report from 50 years ago

668
00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:32,600
and they'll be like, yeah, but 
it's good. 

669
00:34:32,699 --> 00:34:37,400
I mean, aren't Eugenics good 
Keith, you know, like I 

670
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,400
personally I don't think so. 
I don't think. 

671
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,800
Do you think that the China, you
know, one child policy is a good

672
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,199
thing. 
Do you think that's moral? 

673
00:34:44,900 --> 00:34:47,900
And, but I think that many of 
these people, if they, you know,

674
00:34:47,900 --> 00:34:50,000
if they had their druthers, they
would like to have that for the 

675
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:51,800
entire world. 
They see no issues with, with 

676
00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:55,300
the top down, technocratic. 
Tell terrorism. 

677
00:34:56,300 --> 00:35:04,300
Yeah, I mean even with the as 
far as going back to 2001, you 

678
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:09,200
know, the Alex Jones of the 
world were saying well the full 

679
00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,100
The Carter and Reagan 
administration helped the 

680
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:14,800
mujahideen in the 70s to fight 
the Soviets. 

681
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:18,800
Lot of those Afghani Fighters we
could call Al Qaeda and then 

682
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,600
today in 2012. 
It's like they Jake Sullivan's 

683
00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,400
like, yep, the way we're 
fighting. 

684
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,600
Assad is Is were siding with 
al-Qaeda in Syria or siding with

685
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:30,300
Al Qaeda and Yemen, where siding
with al-Qaeda, in Libya against 

686
00:35:30,300 --> 00:35:33,000
Gaddafi. 
So, like the most bizarre thing 

687
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,900
ever, that you could have said 
in 2001, is the CIA is teaming 

688
00:35:36,900 --> 00:35:39,700
up with the people that are 
Waging War against and now it's 

689
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:42,500
like, of course we do that. 
We got to fight Assad Assad, 

690
00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:46,200
gassed his own people for god, 
sakes and simultaneously at the 

691
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,500
exact same moment. 
They will talk about how we have

692
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:52,700
to go back into Afghanistan 
because we can't have a place 

693
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:56,400
for Al Qaeda to, you know. 
Regrow their terrorist boot 

694
00:35:56,400 --> 00:36:01,100
camps, you know, it's like it's 
just it's just the kind of the 

695
00:36:01,100 --> 00:36:03,100
mm immediate dissidents that it 
gives me. 

696
00:36:03,100 --> 00:36:04,400
It just makes me want to jump 
through. 

697
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,200
The screen covid-19 is a fine 
example. 

698
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:12,800
Risk philosopher Nassim Nicholas
taleb and his collaborators 

699
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:19,200
complexity theorists feminist. 
Dance theory is the joke that we

700
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,300
use to to say these peoples fake
tiles risk philosopher. 

701
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,200
And complexity theorists. 
Those are worse than what we 

702
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:33,800
make up to ma get near barium. 
And Joseph Norman issued 

703
00:36:34,100 --> 00:36:36,800
prescient early warnings in 
January of 2020. 

704
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,700
Arguing in favor of the 
precautionary principle owing to

705
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:44,100
the interconnectedness of global
epidemiological social and 

706
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:48,700
economic systems. 
So Clint technocracy is 

707
00:36:48,700 --> 00:36:50,300
Justified. 
This is referred to as 

708
00:36:50,300 --> 00:36:55,300
scientific dictatorship rule by 
the experts is just a I'd so we 

709
00:36:55,300 --> 00:36:57,800
can take precautions against 
Terrible Things. 

710
00:36:57,900 --> 00:37:01,200
How do you respond? 
Well, it's not justified and 

711
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:05,800
it's a provably just damned path
to take that. 

712
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,000
What frustrates me most about 
technocracy. 

713
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,000
Is that like, if you take, any 
person who's been a political 

714
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,700
figure, a leader over the past 
20 years, and you were to just 

715
00:37:15,700 --> 00:37:17,400
evaluate like, what were they 
saying? 

716
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,300
Was going to happen? 
What were they advocating for? 

717
00:37:19,300 --> 00:37:22,200
What did it lead to? 
I don't think you can can 

718
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,900
conclude anything other than 
Ron. 

719
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:27,200
Paul would be the greatest. 
Technocratic leader. 

720
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,600
We could hope for he's gotten 
more things, right? 

721
00:37:29,900 --> 00:37:32,700
Warned about more things 
Afghanistan, the real estate 

722
00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:36,200
collapse to you know, infinite 
printing the Federal Reserve, 

723
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,300
endless war CIA spying and sat 
essay. 

724
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:40,400
All of it. 
Never going away. 

725
00:37:40,500 --> 00:37:43,900
He has been right about all of 
this but yet they don't they 

726
00:37:43,900 --> 00:37:47,100
don't appreciate track record. 
Like if you're going to believe 

727
00:37:47,100 --> 00:37:51,300
in technocracy at a minimum, you
have to believe in following 

728
00:37:51,300 --> 00:37:54,600
people's track record of 
results, and they don't. 

729
00:37:54,700 --> 00:37:58,200
And that's what makes me really 
hate them more than even, you 

730
00:37:58,207 --> 00:38:01,000
know, believing in technocracy. 
He is being bad at it. 

731
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:07,200
You're just fucking bad to not 
even good, you didn't even think

732
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:12,700
there'd be a downside to 
overthrowing Saddam in your war 

733
00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:17,000
against al Qaeda, that gave Iraq
to Al-Qaeda, right? 

734
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,800
I mean, under no circumstance 
and then, you know, of course, 

735
00:38:20,808 --> 00:38:24,600
inflation is the great one that 
we say because so many 

736
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,700
Libertarians are Austrian 
Economist sympathizers. 

737
00:38:27,700 --> 00:38:29,800
We say, yeah, well an increase 
in the money supply. 

738
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:32,300
Appliance going to increase 
prices more than they otherwise 

739
00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:34,900
would be. 
And then CNN has the nerve to 

740
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:39,000
say, of course. 
They deny inflation as Biden 

741
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:43,100
does to Don Lemon and then CNN 
comes out and says expect higher

742
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:46,900
food prices to stay because of 
extreme weather. 

743
00:38:47,300 --> 00:38:50,300
So now they admit that. 
Yes, the prices are rising but 

744
00:38:50,300 --> 00:38:53,200
it's back to the climate change.
It's like playing status to 

745
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,600
whack a mole. 
Every time we take one down. 

746
00:38:55,900 --> 00:38:57,900
We what? 
We got to hit another one. 

747
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:01,500
Do you have any techniques for 
Or assisting people, so they 

748
00:39:01,500 --> 00:39:08,200
don't fall for the next scam. 
Other than to listening to 

749
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,400
people like you. 
And I know, I mean, honestly, I 

750
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:15,600
think it's just it's just 
important to realize that the 

751
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:17,600
media, the politicians 
Hollywood. 

752
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,600
Everyone is lying to you. 
So if you're going to rely on 

753
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,600
someone to give you information,
you're making a mistake, it's 

754
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:28,500
going to require you to not 
believe the initial news reports

755
00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:32,100
on basically everything that 
hits your your computer, your 

756
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:34,700
inbox whatever and it's going to
require. 

757
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:36,800
A little bit of patience, a 
little bit of diligence, a 

758
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,900
little bit of, you know, 
self-starting research. 

759
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,500
If you, if it sounds propaganda 
e-i mean after this, past year 

760
00:39:44,500 --> 00:39:45,400
and a half. 
If you don't know what I'm 

761
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,500
talking about when it when I say
it, does it sound like 

762
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:49,900
propaganda. 
Just think about it. 

763
00:39:50,700 --> 00:39:53,300
Does it sound like it because we
have been propagandize 

764
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:54,900
aggressively for a year and a 
half. 

765
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:59,100
So I think that that's the key 
is like any good libertarian is 

766
00:39:59,100 --> 00:40:02,300
now at the point of like I don't
trust anybody like I'm going to 

767
00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:04,700
do follow-up research before I 
start to run. 

768
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:09,400
With some narrative or even, 
just giving them the insecurity 

769
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:14,100
of do you see why people buy 
kids, who went to Mormon school 

770
00:40:14,100 --> 00:40:17,300
for 12 years are really 
sympathetic to the Mormon 

771
00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:18,400
Church. 
Okay. 

772
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,400
How about the Catholic church 
kids who went to their? 

773
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:24,000
Okay. 
So when the state has a monopoly

774
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,200
on compulsory education for like
what 80 90 percent of the 

775
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,500
citizenry? 
Can you see why a lot of them 

776
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:33,000
are such suckers for giving the 
state more power look like even 

777
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,500
before we ever About, whether 
the sinking of the Maine was 

778
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:40,500
really done by the Spanish, or 
whether the vaccine is reliable.

779
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:44,900
Can we just agree that you have 
a big bias toward the gut? 

780
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:48,400
Like you shouldn't be the judge 
when your mother is on trial. 

781
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:51,000
You have such a bias. 
It's impossible for you to be 

782
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,800
fair. 
Can we just start there? 

783
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:57,300
You have any other techniques of
increasing their skepticism? 

784
00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:00,700
Our insecurities about, you 
know, trusting the technocrats 

785
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:04,400
or the state. 
I mean go read enough already. 

786
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,000
Bye. 
Horton, like if you want to see 

787
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:10,300
all of the wars that have led to
all of the next Wars and and how

788
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:13,400
they were almost all predicated 
on lies and I mean, they were 

789
00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:16,800
all predicated on lives but more
to some extent than the others. 

790
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,800
I just think it's really 
important that people realize 

791
00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:23,200
it's not, it's not novel for the
government to lie to us. 

792
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,700
It is the norm. 
It's unusual for them to tell us

793
00:41:26,700 --> 00:41:29,500
the truth. 
So I just would drive that point

794
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:32,100
home. 
Like you need to be skeptical to

795
00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:35,400
your core. 
You like any any Did you receive

796
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,300
that? 
That demands an immediate 

797
00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:40,600
response from you? 
And and that response the the 

798
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:43,300
requested response is to give 
the government more power. 

799
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,900
You need to be very cautious 
every single time if that's like

800
00:41:46,900 --> 00:41:51,800
global warming terrorism covid 
lockdowns. 

801
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:55,400
Anti-vaxxers, anytime their 
response to that is give us more

802
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:56,400
power. 
We can fix it. 

803
00:41:56,700 --> 00:41:59,400
They're lying to you at least 
start from that from that 

804
00:41:59,408 --> 00:42:01,100
position and then work your way 
through. 

805
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,600
How do you explain to the 
average person do you? 

806
00:42:04,700 --> 00:42:08,600
Difference between government, 
the state and just a regular 

807
00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:12,600
organization. 
Normally, it's just the Monopoly

808
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,500
on violence. 
You know, if it's if it's 

809
00:42:14,500 --> 00:42:16,900
government or the state, they 
have a monopoly on violence. 

810
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:19,600
If it's a private organization, 
they don't normally, they're 

811
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,800
held responsible by the 
government. 

812
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,300
So if they were to commit 
violence, they would be, you 

813
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:26,800
know, theoretically in prison 
except for an America, where you

814
00:42:26,808 --> 00:42:31,600
now have this Unholy Alliance of
Private Business and the state. 

815
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:33,700
So, I don't know. 
Is there? 

816
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:37,600
How else would you delineate? 
Well, I love the second part 

817
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,300
about how. 
Usually, we would hold people 

818
00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:42,800
accountable. 
Principal, but if they lie with 

819
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:44,900
the state, well, then again we 
can see that. 

820
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:48,100
There's a principle difference. 
It's not just private good, 

821
00:42:48,100 --> 00:42:51,400
public bad. 
It's people who engage in this 

822
00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,300
initiating aggression against 
peaceful, people, that should 

823
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:57,300
principal difference. 
And I just want to, of course, 

824
00:42:57,300 --> 00:42:59,900
you know, this is at the back of
all of our minds whenever we're 

825
00:42:59,900 --> 00:43:03,100
having this discussion, but I 
just, I'm really trying to think

826
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:08,000
of a quick clever way to 
describe it to the average 

827
00:43:08,500 --> 00:43:10,800
statist or who has no 
conception. 

828
00:43:10,900 --> 00:43:12,500
Option of what the state is 
government. 

829
00:43:12,500 --> 00:43:16,100
They Define as the people who 
helped us cooperate. 

830
00:43:16,100 --> 00:43:20,200
That's like that's quite 
literally their their 

831
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,900
definition. 
So so when it comes to, let's 

832
00:43:22,900 --> 00:43:24,400
just take this line from the 
article. 

833
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:29,200
It's time for big decisions and 
strong management, whether a 

834
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,100
sovereign debt resolution 
framework or a new Green 

835
00:43:32,100 --> 00:43:35,400
Revolution. 
So embedded in that is always 

836
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:40,000
some people are going to have 
the right to rule and others are

837
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,700
going to have the right. 
Obey, so that's why I'm so 

838
00:43:43,700 --> 00:43:45,900
obsessed with this libertarian 
principle. 

839
00:43:45,900 --> 00:43:48,800
And always, before we talk about
all the details. 

840
00:43:49,300 --> 00:43:52,300
Do you know why? 
I'm against this group called 

841
00:43:52,300 --> 00:43:55,100
the government group, like, why 
I pick on them out of all the 

842
00:43:55,100 --> 00:43:58,700
organizations? 
And, and of course, just just 

843
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:01,800
like you were saying it's not 
enough to say private good when 

844
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:03,800
they're the explicit 
co-conspirators. 

845
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,400
When he says something like time
for sovereign debt resolution 

846
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,800
framework or a new Green 
Revolution. 

847
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:16,700
When it comes to the 
environment, this is something 

848
00:44:16,700 --> 00:44:19,800
where it's completely complex 
and so out of the ordinary. 

849
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,700
So some people are so likely to 
say it's so complex. 

850
00:44:23,700 --> 00:44:26,000
I'm just going to let the 
experts decide for me. 

851
00:44:26,300 --> 00:44:28,500
How do you responded to that 
mindset? 

852
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,500
Well, I mean other than to point
out that the government's, the 

853
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:35,200
biggest polluter on Earth US, 
military in particular. 

854
00:44:36,100 --> 00:44:38,700
I would say, why would you rely 
on the biggest polluters to be 

855
00:44:38,700 --> 00:44:40,300
responsible for? 
Remedying it? 

856
00:44:40,500 --> 00:44:43,400
And then I would point out the, 
you know, incredible innovations

857
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,600
that we have in a free market 
economy. 

858
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,100
And the fact that we are far 
more likely to come up with 

859
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:54,500
Solutions via unshackling. 
The economy and allowing people 

860
00:44:54,500 --> 00:44:58,200
to actually go out and innovate.
If global warming, if you 

861
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:01,100
believe in your soul that it's 
the biggest risk to humanity. 

862
00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:05,800
Wouldn't you rather leave the 
money in the entrepreneurs? 

863
00:45:05,900 --> 00:45:10,000
Hands to go out and try and get 
richer than, you know, God by 

864
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:12,800
fixing it. 
That's that's my belief. 

865
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,700
Is to how it will ultimately be 
solved, is that someone will 

866
00:45:15,700 --> 00:45:20,700
come up with carbon capture 
something or some new saltwater 

867
00:45:20,700 --> 00:45:23,400
into electricity. 
Something, some new technology 

868
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,500
that allows us to stop producing
carbon and mess and then it'll 

869
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:31,300
be resolved. 
So the I just try and like, 

870
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,300
basically our I just take a 
efficacy argument where it's 

871
00:45:34,300 --> 00:45:35,800
like the government isn't a 
fight. 

872
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,600
She's like, what has the 
government fucking done that? 

873
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:40,900
They promised you? 
What do they succeeded at 

874
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:42,600
anything? 
Can you tell me something? 

875
00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:45,100
And then from there? 
I kind of work backwards. 

876
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,600
Yeah. 
Well, and even now, with a lot 

877
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:51,000
of there things were they say, 
well, you know, if any 

878
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,900
organization gets trillions of 
dollars every year, they're 

879
00:45:53,900 --> 00:45:56,300
going to do some good with it by
definition. 

880
00:45:56,500 --> 00:46:00,600
I mean, even if they lit it all 
on fire, it would increase the 

881
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:04,200
value of everyone else's money 
by leading to deflation and we 

882
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,300
warm our hands on it pigs. 
Exactly. 

883
00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:09,000
So there's so there's always 
going to be something good. 

884
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:11,400
So it's not enough to say 
government did something good. 

885
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,500
Catholic Church does good stuff.
The Koch brothers do good things

886
00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:17,300
that give them the right to rule
the rest of us. 

887
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,300
If you go to aging us, if you go
that route though, then you have

888
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:22,500
to get in the explaining 
opportunity costs. 

889
00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:25,800
And I feel like from a lot of 
people that's just that's a 

890
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,800
little bit too. 
Nebulous data, that is rough. 

891
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,100
Unfortunately. 
It's great that we have, you 

892
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:35,700
know, embraced the most vitally 
important regulation. 

893
00:46:35,900 --> 00:46:39,200
Check and balance, which is the 
freedom to disassociate with Bad

894
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,800
actors. 
So, we're constantly told well, 

895
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,700
you know, there's so many bad 
people out there that we need to

896
00:46:44,700 --> 00:46:48,800
state to really crack on things.
Well, all of those criticisms 

897
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,700
apply tenfold to the state if 
you can opt out of associated 

898
00:46:52,700 --> 00:46:54,100
with them. 
And then they want to give big 

899
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:56,800
Pharma more power than. 
I don't know. 

900
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,400
Anyone has ever had the ability 
to have the state and the media 

901
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,200
team up with you with, you know,
professors to get people 

902
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,200
injected with something. 
I mean that is literal 1984 and 

903
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,900
now they don't want us to be 
able to disassociate from those 

904
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:13,000
businesses because they want a 
monopoly on it. 

905
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,200
They want all Airlines to do it.
They want all, you know, 

906
00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:21,600
international travel to be 
basically forced to be vacs only

907
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,400
and it's like All I'm asking for
is the capacity for 

908
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,600
Alternatives. 
So I don't have to do what 

909
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,000
you're demanding of me. 
If you don't give me an 

910
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,400
alternative if there isn't an 
industry option, that allows me 

911
00:47:35,400 --> 00:47:37,300
to continue to do to live my 
life. 

912
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,600
You are coercing me. 
You are forcing me to either 

913
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,900
cooperate or defend myself and 
I'm at the point of defending 

914
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:46,600
myself. 
I mean, that's really where I'm 

915
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:48,900
at with this thing because you 
cannot you cannot continue to 

916
00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:50,600
treat me like a second-class 
citizen. 

917
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,100
I mean, they are overtly. 
We pushing for a part that I 

918
00:47:54,100 --> 00:47:56,600
that's how I feel about it. 
Like they want to have two 

919
00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,800
classes of civilization and they
want it to be permanent and it's

920
00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,300
just astonishing to me that 
people aren't at their core 

921
00:48:03,300 --> 00:48:05,400
disturbed by that. 
Even if you're horrified of 

922
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,200
covid and your your super 
pro-vaccine, how are you not 

923
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:10,000
looking at this? 
And going? 

924
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,300
I've seen this before. 
I know what this is. 

925
00:48:13,900 --> 00:48:16,400
I know where this goes. 
I know that I don't want this. 

926
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:21,400
It's amazing. 
Final quote that we will address

927
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:23,900
here. 
If you want a better world for 

928
00:48:23,900 --> 00:48:25,900
your children. 
Don't hold your breath for 

929
00:48:25,900 --> 00:48:29,800
Global Democratic deliberation. 
What now? 

930
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,600
I chose this because it's one of
the, you know, bolded quotes on 

931
00:48:34,600 --> 00:48:36,400
the side. 
So they really want to catch 

932
00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:39,900
your eye, your eye with this. 
What do you see is the 

933
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,300
propaganda technique in that 
sentence if you want a better 

934
00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:45,900
world for your children, don't 
hold your breath for Global 

935
00:48:45,900 --> 00:48:50,100
Democratic deliberation. 
I mean, it seems to me that they

936
00:48:50,100 --> 00:48:55,700
are, I mean, that they're pretty
clearly stating that they want a

937
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,900
global government because if you
don't want Democratic 

938
00:48:58,900 --> 00:49:01,800
deliberation, you want to 
technocracy that presides above 

939
00:49:02,100 --> 00:49:04,500
all of global government as an 
aggregate, right? 

940
00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:06,100
Is that not in my reading it 
properly? 

941
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:07,900
That's what, that's what I'm 
getting. 

942
00:49:07,900 --> 00:49:09,100
But okay. 
White bias. 

943
00:49:09,100 --> 00:49:12,700
So I like to delegate it for 
every now and then but of course

944
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,700
invoking the children, of course
and and believer. 

945
00:49:15,700 --> 00:49:17,800
Should I do that? 
It's going to make it better for

946
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:19,500
the children. 
Notice that on sense. 

947
00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:21,700
Oh, yeah, that that that's a 
brilliant one. 

948
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,800
So it's going to be better. 
Obviously that let's move past 

949
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,800
that don't hold your breath for 
Democratic deliberation. 

950
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,900
So yeah, they will throw 
democracy under the bus. 

951
00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:34,900
This is the ultimate 
justification for the state. 

952
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,300
It's Democratic. 
It's not like, you know, selfish

953
00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:41,600
places like The mises Institute 
that's, you know, private and 

954
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,300
evil government were all in this
together. 

955
00:49:44,300 --> 00:49:46,800
We all vote. 
This is, this is who really 

956
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,200
represents us there. 
So, Quick to throw democracy out

957
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:52,800
the window. 
When it's when it's the biggest 

958
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,900
hurdle for them. 
Any other big takeaways from the

959
00:49:56,900 --> 00:49:59,600
article. 
I mean, other than the fact that

960
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,100
they're kind of lifting the 
veil. 

961
00:50:01,200 --> 00:50:03,600
I mean, that that is to me the 
biggest deal. 

962
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:05,100
And this is actually what 
happened. 

963
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,200
If you recall, that, that big, I
think was a timepiece that came 

964
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:11,400
out after the election about 
fortifying the election. 

965
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,800
This, this feels the same way to
me. 

966
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:16,700
It's a lifting of the veil. 
It's like everything that Alex 

967
00:50:16,700 --> 00:50:18,200
Jones in the more Fringe people 
have. 

968
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,200
Talking about for decades. 
They're getting more comfortable

969
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,700
with being open about it. 
And I don't know why that is 

970
00:50:24,700 --> 00:50:27,700
honestly because I mean, I think
it's I think it's 

971
00:50:27,700 --> 00:50:29,700
overconfidence. 
I hope it's overconfidence. 

972
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:33,200
I hope I'm not the overconfident
one in our in our capacity to 

973
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,100
defend against these types of 
things, but it seems to me that 

974
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:42,200
the more technocratic dictator 
like people on Earth are feeling

975
00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:44,600
much more Brazen. 
They're much more willing to 

976
00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,700
just we're just going to tell 
you how it is. 

977
00:50:46,700 --> 00:50:49,600
Yeah. 
You're you're R2 dumb and we're 

978
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,300
smart and you should listen to 
us. 

979
00:50:51,500 --> 00:50:54,900
And that's that's now what we're
doing instead of pretending that

980
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:57,600
they are a representatives and 
that we vote them into power and

981
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,400
that word the same but they're 
just there. 

982
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,300
The there are servants. 
It's like none of that like the 

983
00:51:02,500 --> 00:51:04,900
fucking, the pedals are off the 
roads, like they're just telling

984
00:51:04,900 --> 00:51:08,600
you how it is now. 
So we've come to the very sad 

985
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:12,700
moment where we have to 
understand their techniques and 

986
00:51:12,700 --> 00:51:15,800
maybe a percentage of us should 
adopt them. 

987
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:17,500
If this is the game we have to 
play. 

988
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,700
Well, all Is making sure we have
these sound arguments. 

989
00:51:21,500 --> 00:51:24,200
Doesn't mean we always have to 
use them all the time. 

990
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:29,400
Like if like, if you had to do 
Hopscotch to get someone to take

991
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:32,900
money or medicine to save their 
life because they weren't 

992
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:35,400
listening to the rationale. 
Well, sometimes you just got to 

993
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,300
do that. 
So let's go through. 

994
00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:41,000
We got a few minutes left for 
propaganda techniques and give 

995
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:45,200
me an idea of how you would use 
this same technique, but for our

996
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,900
side, number one activate 
strong. 

997
00:51:48,300 --> 00:51:51,200
Ian's, the status might do 
something like show you. 

998
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,400
This person's dying. 
They're on a ventilator. 

999
00:51:53,700 --> 00:51:56,000
The look at all this death from 
covid. 

1000
00:51:56,200 --> 00:52:00,400
We therefore need mandates and 
Ubi and everything else. 

1001
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:04,500
How can you use activating 
strong emotions to promote the 

1002
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:06,400
self ownership and freaking 
principle. 

1003
00:52:07,900 --> 00:52:11,600
I would probably play the same 
dirty game and show them, you 

1004
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,200
know, the increase in, I mean, 
they probably wouldn't buy 

1005
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,500
graphs. 
But if I could actually show 

1006
00:52:17,500 --> 00:52:20,400
them Some children that have 
killed themselves during 

1007
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:23,500
lockdown. 
For instance, the the incredible

1008
00:52:23,500 --> 00:52:28,200
increase in the rate of therapy 
for self-harm and suicidal 

1009
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:31,600
thought amongst children over 
the past 18 months. 

1010
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,600
If that if that's not enough to 
reach their heart. 

1011
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:39,200
They're probably just sociopaths
or just seeing the footage of 

1012
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:42,700
the cops in Australia. 
It's like so an excusable 

1013
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:43,800
sometimes. 
Yeah. 

1014
00:52:45,700 --> 00:52:49,000
Number to simplify. 
I was going to go on but We're 

1015
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:52,900
running short here number to 
simplify information and ideas, 

1016
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,700
successful. 
Propaganda tells simple stories 

1017
00:52:55,700 --> 00:52:59,800
that are familiar and trusted 
often using metaphors imaginary 

1018
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:04,300
reputation repetition and short 
phrases to make them seem true 

1019
00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:07,700
and to substitute critical 
thinking how can Freedom 

1020
00:53:07,700 --> 00:53:10,200
Advocates simplify information 
and ideas. 

1021
00:53:12,300 --> 00:53:16,100
That's a really hard one because
many of our ideas are complex. 

1022
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:19,500
So I think that's why a tagline 
like, End. 

1023
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:24,100
The Fed was so good, you know, 
three, three letter words, just 

1024
00:53:24,100 --> 00:53:27,100
bang, bang, bang. 
So, yeah, that's I don't know 

1025
00:53:27,100 --> 00:53:29,000
that I could come up with one 
better on the fly. 

1026
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,200
To be honest. 
You got anything Ron, Paul gave 

1027
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:32,900
me a great one, when he was on 
my show. 

1028
00:53:32,900 --> 00:53:35,900
He said, if you can't do it, the
government, can't do it. 

1029
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:37,900
In other words. 
What are they Gods on Earth? 

1030
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,500
I mean, it's just that. 
That's, that was just so nice. 

1031
00:53:40,600 --> 00:53:44,000
Nice and quick that it 
automatically gets you holding 

1032
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:45,400
the state to the same 
principles. 

1033
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,100
You told the other people to I 
think the problem with that is 

1034
00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:54,000
that a lot of people struggle 
with believing that they that 

1035
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:57,100
the people that rule over them 
are just as fallible. 

1036
00:53:57,300 --> 00:53:58,900
I think people really struggle 
with that. 

1037
00:53:59,100 --> 00:54:01,400
And I think that that's 
something that as I've become 

1038
00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:04,000
very financially successful and 
I've interacted with very 

1039
00:54:04,300 --> 00:54:06,700
powerful. 
Wealthy people, you realize, 

1040
00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:08,700
like, they're not actually 
better than us. 

1041
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,800
I mean, they just, they just 
have a Bit different skill set. 

1042
00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:14,200
They have a lot of, it's 
nepotism a lot of, its 

1043
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,000
connections, and ties and it's 
politics and it's like, 

1044
00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:19,900
ultimately, you need to save 
yourself. 

1045
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:21,600
I don't know. 
That's a quick one. 

1046
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:24,800
Maybe we could use that. 
Yeah, that's a great one or even

1047
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:29,500
just I mean I get that it's a 
little bit of a switch to say. 

1048
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:33,200
Well, how many of them saw the 
Afghanistan debacle happening? 

1049
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,900
This was one of the longest, you
know, if you count CIA going 

1050
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:40,700
into Vietnam in the 50s to help 
the French, of course, but I I 

1051
00:54:40,700 --> 00:54:44,000
mean, the longest war, one of 
the biggest, most vital things. 

1052
00:54:44,500 --> 00:54:46,500
None of them. 
Got right, virtually. 

1053
00:54:46,500 --> 00:54:48,100
None of them were right about 
it. 

1054
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,600
And why doesn't that make you 
question the expert class a 

1055
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:55,200
little bit. 
I mean, just throwing one of 

1056
00:54:55,300 --> 00:54:57,100
what one of those examples. 
Sure. 

1057
00:54:57,600 --> 00:55:02,200
Number three respond to needs 
and values creating effective 

1058
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:05,400
propaganda that appeals directly
to the needs hopes and fears of 

1059
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:09,000
specific groups makes it 
personal and relevant and which 

1060
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,300
also makes people pay attention.
And absorb information. 

1061
00:55:12,500 --> 00:55:15,800
Any ideas on how we can respond 
to the needs and values? 

1062
00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:21,500
I mean, I just try and reframe 
it so that people kind of 

1063
00:55:21,700 --> 00:55:23,900
re-evaluate what their 
principles are. 

1064
00:55:23,900 --> 00:55:27,600
I think a lot of people have 
focused on safety over the past 

1065
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:32,000
18 months and I think ultimately
at their core. 

1066
00:55:32,100 --> 00:55:36,700
Most Americans still do value 
freedom, but far, too many of 

1067
00:55:36,700 --> 00:55:38,700
them value security over 
Freedom. 

1068
00:55:39,300 --> 00:55:43,300
So I think I think getting 
people to reflect on how much 

1069
00:55:43,300 --> 00:55:46,100
they've sacrificed through these
lockdowns and how much they've 

1070
00:55:46,100 --> 00:55:49,700
missed out on the fact that 
their There now, you know drug 

1071
00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:52,400
addicts because they couldn't go
to their senior year of high 

1072
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,800
school and shit like that. 
Like try and get them to reflect

1073
00:55:55,800 --> 00:56:00,000
on how much they've lost by 
allowing to give up their 

1074
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,100
rights, allowing to give up 
their freedom and ask them if 

1075
00:56:03,100 --> 00:56:06,700
they want to retain that. 
Do you do you enjoy life more in

1076
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:10,900
2021 than you did in 2012, you 
know, or whatever. 

1077
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,900
And I think most people would 
say, yeah, this sucks and then 

1078
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:20,100
argue from there. 
Yeah, and even it's not it's not

1079
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:25,100
even the freedom versus 
security, you know, cost-benefit

1080
00:56:25,100 --> 00:56:27,500
analysis. 
You can get security on the free

1081
00:56:27,500 --> 00:56:29,600
market. 
You have alarm systems, you have

1082
00:56:29,600 --> 00:56:33,300
medicines, you have preventive 
care, you have, you know, Zoom 

1083
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:36,200
instead of going to a meeting. 
If you're really that scared, 

1084
00:56:36,300 --> 00:56:40,200
the security is so fake that 
even with all the measures, it's

1085
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:41,800
as though they've done nothing 
at all. 

1086
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,800
It's not that they're not like 
thanks so much for letting us 

1087
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:47,800
push this agenda through. 
I want to thank the For all the 

1088
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,300
trillions there. 
Now on the hook for I really 

1089
00:56:51,300 --> 00:56:53,600
thought this was going to work. 
I can't believe we still have 

1090
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:56,300
covid cases. 
This was supposed to be 14 days.

1091
00:56:56,300 --> 00:57:00,800
Of course, it's fake security. 
It leaves you less secure. 

1092
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:06,100
Finally attack opponents. 
Attacking opponents creates an 

1093
00:57:06,100 --> 00:57:10,000
us-versus-them mentality, which 
suppresses the consideration of 

1094
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,300
more complex information and 
ideas people are naturally 

1095
00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:16,800
attracted to conflict which can 
serve as a form of political. 

1096
00:57:17,300 --> 00:57:22,300
Or fair to discredit people or 
groups Clint any ideas on how we

1097
00:57:22,300 --> 00:57:25,800
can use the attacking opponents 
propaganda method in the Freedom

1098
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,100
Movement. 
Oh, man, you must not have seen 

1099
00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:32,000
the opener to my episode 
yesterday because I do it. 

1100
00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:34,900
I actually am pretty good at 
this. 

1101
00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:37,200
This is probably what I'm best 
at and I know that's not a good 

1102
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,600
thing. 
It's probably a character flaw, 

1103
00:57:38,600 --> 00:57:41,800
but I because I'm good at it. 
I'll explain exactly what I do. 

1104
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:46,900
When I see an ally in 
particular, I go harder on them 

1105
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:50,300
than Do a statist or an 
opponent, if they have a, if 

1106
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:52,400
they have an idea that I find 
truly reprehensible. 

1107
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:55,900
Like, in this case, I'm talking 
about the Libertarians that have

1108
00:57:55,900 --> 00:58:01,400
ran cover for what I believe is 
fascism vaccine mandates. 

1109
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:06,700
These, these people I have been 
tearing to shreds over the past 

1110
00:58:06,700 --> 00:58:10,600
48 hours and it's not, I don't 
normally like to do this. 

1111
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,500
I don't normally like, to go 
after allies, but I feel like 

1112
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:17,500
when you need to Galvanize a 
movement on an issue, And I 

1113
00:58:17,508 --> 00:58:20,700
don't think that I'm not sure 
that there has been a bigger 

1114
00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:24,100
issue in my life than what, than
a vaccine mandates like. 

1115
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:27,700
It is such a fucking big deal. 
And if Libertarians are going 

1116
00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:31,300
to, you know, get all pedantic 
and argue about philosophy. 

1117
00:58:31,300 --> 00:58:34,600
And well, what I mean? 
If it wasn't like this, wouldn't

1118
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,400
you believe that a business has 
a right to disassociate? 

1119
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:39,600
And it's like, dude, that's not 
what this is. 

1120
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,000
So, get out of your fucking 
philosophy, textbooks and get 

1121
00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,000
get in reality. 
We are in the fight. 

1122
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,200
There's no, there's no time to 
be arguing about. 

1123
00:58:47,300 --> 00:58:50,300
Lots of be right now, we need to
fight against what's happening 

1124
00:58:50,300 --> 00:58:52,900
in front of us and it's like a 
lot of people struggle with 

1125
00:58:52,900 --> 00:58:56,000
that. 
So I very much use, you know, 

1126
00:58:57,100 --> 00:58:59,800
demonizing your opponent in that
in that regard. 

1127
00:58:59,800 --> 00:59:02,900
I got a lot of people to go out 
and shame. 

1128
00:59:02,900 --> 00:59:07,400
A lot of probably really good 
Libertarians otherwise and I did

1129
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,400
it knowingly because I believe 
this issue is so important that 

1130
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,800
I have to get people to get in 
line and I know that sounds 

1131
00:59:14,800 --> 00:59:16,500
fucked up, but that's really how
I felt about it. 

1132
00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:18,800
I totally We agree. 
Yeah, and you can even 

1133
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:21,200
philosophize, just do it better 
and Rec. 

1134
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,700
We didn't do it better than and 
recognize that these are 

1135
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:27,600
co-conspirators to the regime. 
So it's not that well, Pfizer 

1136
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:30,800
and modern are private and the 
airlines are private. 

1137
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:35,600
They get billions of dollars in 
bailouts, and then afterwards 

1138
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,600
are saying the same thing. 
The state is that is a 

1139
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:41,600
co-conspirator. 
That's like, you know, the 

1140
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:46,700
ultimate well, I wasn't the one 
doing the crime. 

1141
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:50,100
I'm The mob boss, I just give 
orders. 

1142
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:51,800
They're really the ones doing 
it. 

1143
00:59:51,900 --> 00:59:56,200
Well, no, you are a 
co-conspirator in this 

1144
00:59:56,200 --> 00:59:58,900
organization that's leading to 
this ultimate end. 

1145
00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:02,700
Sometimes they're even more 
influential, but you look at the

1146
01:00:02,700 --> 01:00:08,100
US versus them tactics of Occupy
Wall Street, 99% versus 1% 

1147
01:00:08,300 --> 01:00:10,500
George Bush. 
You're either with us or you're 

1148
01:00:10,500 --> 01:00:14,400
with the terrorists Nixon to get
people off the gold standard. 

1149
01:00:14,900 --> 01:00:16,800
We're doing this to fight Wall 
Street. 

1150
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:20,700
Laters and what we're only 
leaving the gold standard 

1151
01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:23,900
temporarily. 
I think we need to just embrace 

1152
01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:25,500
it. 
Look, there's two ways to 

1153
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:27,800
achieve your ends in life. 
There's violence in 

1154
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:30,300
volunteerism. 
And anyone who engages in 

1155
01:00:30,300 --> 01:00:33,400
violence or sides with the 
people and becomes a 

1156
01:00:33,408 --> 01:00:37,400
co-conspirator, the media, the 
press the professor's 

1157
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:40,300
universities Hollywood. 
Well, then you're evil and 

1158
01:00:40,300 --> 01:00:43,600
you're that is a true divided, 
not rich versus poor black 

1159
01:00:43,600 --> 01:00:46,400
versus white man versus woman. 
That's incredible that they've 

1160
01:00:46,400 --> 01:00:48,700
gotten the man. 
Men in black versus white 

1161
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,200
divided. 
When there's a state. 

1162
01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,100
Any thoughts on that being the 
division? 

1163
01:00:54,100 --> 01:00:56,000
Or any final thoughts on 
propaganda. 

1164
01:00:56,500 --> 01:01:00,800
No, I think voluntary is a 
violence is a good good dividing

1165
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,200
line, because this is why I 
treated our allies so poorly 

1166
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:05,800
because they weren't behaving as
allies. 

1167
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:10,200
They run, they were behaving is 
useful idiots for fascistic 

1168
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:14,100
interests, and it's like, look, 
you're probably a great person 

1169
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:17,100
other ones, but you are fucking 
my shit up right now. 

1170
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,900
And I can't have it. 
I got sorry to be profane. 

1171
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:23,400
But like you cannot get this 
topic wrong. 

1172
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:26,200
And but what I mean by getting 
out of philosophy is like, of 

1173
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,500
course, you should still apply 
our philosophy. 

1174
01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:31,700
That's what we do all the time. 
It's embedded in us, but you 

1175
01:01:31,700 --> 01:01:34,600
shouldn't be having arguments 
about things that aren't 

1176
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:35,500
happening. 
Right now. 

1177
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:38,600
That's what I'm saying. 
Like, if you want to argue of 

1178
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,900
like, well, shouldn't a 
business, be allowed to turn 

1179
01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:42,700
someone away. 
Like, don't you, aren't you 

1180
01:01:42,700 --> 01:01:45,000
oppose the Civil Rights Act? 
Don't you think that businesses 

1181
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,100
should have a right to do that. 
It's like, well, my argument 

1182
01:01:47,300 --> 01:01:51,400
Makes them was what if in the in
the same moment that these 

1183
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,700
businesses were considering 
banning all minorities to go to 

1184
01:01:54,700 --> 01:01:58,700
their restaurants, the present 
United States, and a governor 

1185
01:01:58,700 --> 01:02:02,100
and a bunch of Governors and all
of the news media came out 

1186
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:05,500
simultaneously and they said, we
want to encourage private 

1187
01:02:05,500 --> 01:02:08,700
businesses to make it so that no
minorities can eat at 

1188
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:12,500
restaurants in this country. 
Would you advocate for that? 

1189
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:16,200
Or would you see that is obvious
fucked up collusion between 

1190
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:19,400
government, which is basically 
circumventing the Constitution 

1191
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:24,500
to implement Really unlimber T 
oriented policy making. 

1192
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:26,800
And I think when you frame it 
like that, especially for the 

1193
01:02:26,800 --> 01:02:29,300
more woke Libertarians out 
there, they start to grasp it a 

1194
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:31,000
little bit. 
Clint. 

1195
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:33,600
You've got a lot of episodes of 
your excellent. 

1196
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,800
Shell. 
It might seems like drinking out

1197
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:37,900
of a fire hose. 
If someone just goes there and 

1198
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:41,300
is searching through everything 
if they wanted a Solid 

1199
01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:43,200
introduction to liberty 
lockdown. 

1200
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,100
What is an episode? 
They should start with? 

1201
01:02:46,500 --> 01:02:50,200
Man, I would say 106 107 my most
recent ones. 

1202
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,200
I think that those are probably 
the most passionate, actually 

1203
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,800
105 106, 105 and 106 our solo 
episode. 

1204
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:03,800
So if you want to see the full 
fire of me, that'll be it. 

1205
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,300
And then episode 107. 
I had spiked Cohen on so that'll

1206
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:12,200
be a good for a into my more 
interview style shows episodes 

1207
01:03:12,200 --> 01:03:16,400
two, links to episodes, 105 106 
and 107 will be in the the 

1208
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:18,600
description below. 
Thanks to everyone for watching 

1209
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,400
Keith Knight. 
Don't try to on anyone and the 

1210
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,500
libertarian Institute Clint, 
brother. 

1211
01:03:22,500 --> 01:03:25,300
Thank you so much for your time.
I'm a huge fan of Keith. 

1212
01:03:25,300 --> 01:03:27,000
Thank you for having me. 
If anybody wants to follow me, 

1213
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:28,800
go to at Liberty like pot on 
Twitter. 

1214
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:29,800
Thank you guys. 
Thank you again.