I want to go over some of the people who have intellectual Lee
inspired you. So, what is the most important
thing you learned from The Works of or just knowing Jordan
Pederson? Tell the truth.
I mean, there's just no doubt
about it. Tell the truth.
And if you say something that is true, you have no idea how that
can affect the world. And I got to see the guy do it
on a day-to-day basis. I got to travel with the leading
public intellectual of the world.
Watch him, tell the truth and and see the way that change the
world. It was, it was remarkable.
But what about the utilitarian result of?
I might lose my friends. My family who once loved me
might now look down on me. Why should I still tell the
truth? Because if you do not tell the
truth in service to keeping the illusion that you have, all of
these people in your life who accept you, because you're not
being the real, you eventually that will destroy you, that will
destroy you. That's not to say that it when
you tell the truth about Certainly going to be Shangri-La
and you know, popping open the champagne because it's going to
come with some pain. Of course.
It's going to come with some pain.
But if anything if anything was was easy, then it wouldn't be
the right. Like if anything was easy.
Everyone would do it, right. We all know that when something
is tough, when you got to stand for your own thing and slog
through the machine, then most likely you're going to get out
better on the other side. I've never seen someone tell the
truth and live the truth and fight for truth and regret it
even people when Bad things happen to them because of it and
bad things do happen to people who tell the truth.
I don't think most people regret.
It most important thing you learned from The Works of Ben
Shapiro, facts, don't care about your feelings.
I mean, there's a reason that that line caught on with Ben and
I think it's true Ben is Ben, is a fact machine and he's incisive
and witty and quick and he talks fast and the whole thing, but I
think that that the reason that phrase caught fire was because
it wasn't just the alliteration. It was just that facts, don't
care about your feelings. Got that we live in a world.
We live in a real world. And then there's you, there's
your feelings about the world and you got to figure out a way
to put those things together. And way too many people think
that this world, the world of their feelings is the real
world. We're in fact, a fact-based
world, is the real world, and then how you react to it is.
What defines you most important thing you learned from The Works
of Thomas soul. Our know your stuff know your
stuff. I mean this guy is a true genius
when it comes to libertarian economics.
He has he has stood his ground. He is, you know, the things that
that I talked about. Now, this guy was talking about
50 years ago in writing books about and has debated, you know,
all of the brilliant people across the board Every Which Way
and some people that are not. So brilliant.
Say the more socialist Economist, but he's debated
plenty of people. Know your stuff sit down in a
conversation ready to be armed with facts.
Well, what does the welfare state do?
What does high taxation do? What does high regulation do?
And if you can sit down with people knowing your stuff, but
you won't be hysterical. Part of the reason, the lefties
generally are so is terrible is because they don't know their
stuff. So they over Liam oat to
compensate for that. Most important thing you learned
from The Works of Dennis Prager. Love and adore and admire
Western Civilization. I think that's Dennis is
greatest contribution. He's written many books about
it. I think I've got one of them
right over there. He has shown me, and shown quite
literally millions of people over the course of the last
couple decades on the radio. And now it's Prager you that the
American experiment as he calls it is the is the greatest human
experiment we've ever done. We've done it so brilliantly for
250 years. Expanding more freedom to more
people and if you feel like it's in a precarious position at the
moment. Well, you're right, because it
is in a precarious position and you got to keep fighting for it.
And I think too many people have stopped fighting for it.
Most important thing you learned from Ayaan hirsi Ali, I was
going to say bravery, but I'll say something else.
Grace Grace, I on who I've gotten to know quite well off
camera as well. And I've interviewed her a bunch
of times. It's not just that she's Brave.
It's not just that she's stood up to islamists and now stands
up to marxists. And it's not just her life story
of leaving Somalia and the arranged marriage and female
genital mutilation. It's that after all of that.
Yeah. She's Brave.
No doubt about it, but she's graceful, she's decent.
Is fun, there's a light in her and a lot of people I think that
light would have been extinguished.
But she found something that allowed her to continue doing it
in a decent way. That's graceful.
That's beautiful. Christina Hoff Sommers.
Oh, well that first-wave feminism is way better than
third wave feminism. Christina fights for a feminism
that of course, most of us would believe in a feminism of
equality, an equality of opportunity.
So that women should have the opportunity to do whatever they
want. Not an equality of equity where
women should basically be forced to do things.
There are fundamental differences between men and
women women generally, like people more men generally like
things more thus men and women choose different careers.
Women can Children men cannot there are differences and we
should embrace those differences and just fight so that each
person is equal under the law, not forced into living any life
that they don't want to live, which ironically is the people.
The people who are telling you they're freeing you.
They're actually forcing you into servitude.
It's a quite incredible. Peter teal.
Think differently. I become very close with Peter.
I hold him in the highest regard because he's a nice guy.
Okay, he's a brilliant Tech Guy. Okay, but there's something
else, it's that he dare dares to choose to think differently in a
go against the grain. You know, we all think that we
do that, right? Oh, I won't go with the mob all
think differently. I must do things.
I'll be whatever off, beaten, whatever.
And he's a bit of a quirky character, but he really does.
And by thinking differently, I think that is what has allowed
him to stay ahead of things. So, you know, Peter teal left
San Francisco. Everyone knew San Francisco was
crumbling under leftist policies in Silicon Valley was crumbling.
Well, he didn't just leave himself.
He took his entire company and left and that tells you, wow,
bye-bye. Seeing the road in front of you,
but looking at it a little bit differently, you can make moves
to the Future. That'll be a lot clearer and I
have no doubt that he will continue to make such move.
Who's finally Tulsi gabbard Tulsi is a new one for me
because we've become friends, really in the last year and I
interviewed her during the presidential campaign.
And just this morning she was on my show and we were announcing
that she's joining. My tech company locals Tulsi,
Das local.com Tulsi. How about how about tolerance
with Tulsi because she is she's not just saying it, you know,
everybody says tolerance. We need to be more tolerant to
Tulsi means it. She really wants to embrace.
A spirit that would allow us to live in society with people who
are very, very different than us.
And I think the saddest thing for the state of the democratic
party, and there's so many sad and whirring things within that
party. Right now, the saddest thing is
that Joe Biden or whoever is in charge.
It's probably not Joe Biden, but whoever is in charge that they
chose Kamala Harris. Instead of Tulsi gabbard is
really unfortunate because there was a moment where they could
have said, Hey, Joe is what he is.
But now, we're going to choose somebody who's a true healer who
has some principles that are thought of as a little more
left. But certainly has some
principles that are thought of as a little more, right?
And really could have been a unifier.
I think she's incredibly bright things in her future, because of
that.