1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:02,600 Scott, thank you so much for your time. 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,200 What does it mean to be anti-war? 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:11,100 Well, I mean, for some people, they have religious or 4 00:00:11,100 --> 00:00:13,300 philosophical beliefs where they're just committed to 5 00:00:13,300 --> 00:00:16,900 pacifism, in all cases, I don't think that that is required. 6 00:00:16,900 --> 00:00:23,800 And I don't think, really, anyone could deny that in 7 00:00:23,800 --> 00:00:28,600 America. Now, that this is the era of the 8 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,700 phony Wars. This is the era of our 9 00:00:31,700 --> 00:00:36,400 government, looking for fights to get in none of which are Are 10 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:40,100 really supportable on their own terms, or even, you know, on 11 00:00:40,100 --> 00:00:44,800 their advertised terms and all of which have all kinds of 12 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:48,200 unnecessary repercussions for the people of this country. 13 00:00:48,900 --> 00:00:51,400 So, all should take to be anti-war. 14 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,200 Now, it's just to be a patriot at all, he loved America. 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,300 Then the fight of our era is to save our country from our 16 00:00:59,300 --> 00:01:03,300 government and the wars that they wage around the world as 17 00:01:03,300 --> 00:01:06,100 James Madison, the father of the Constitution, put it back then. 18 00:01:07,100 --> 00:01:11,700 War carries the germ of every other infringement on human 19 00:01:11,700 --> 00:01:16,200 Liberty because it centralizes power and has all these perverse 20 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,500 incentives through create a massive centralized state where 21 00:01:20,500 --> 00:01:24,200 before there wasn't one and as he says, Wars to the parents of 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,400 armies. And armies are the parents taxes 23 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:32,200 and taxes of the parents of 100 offices of bureaucrats, sent out 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,500 to destroy the lives of the people of the country. 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,600 So, That is really the fight of our are especially as 26 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,000 Libertarians in America. Is that, if we're ever going to 27 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:47,200 conserve what was worth conserving about this country, 28 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:52,800 we have got to abandon the Empire first, and our series of 29 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,200 foreign interventionism, the new Cold War. 30 00:01:55,200 --> 00:02:00,000 Our government is getting in and focus on saving the last of the 31 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Old Law. That is the most important to 32 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:05,800 keep that is our Bill of Rights and the form. 33 00:02:05,900 --> 00:02:08,900 Of our constitutional government of having separate powers 34 00:02:08,900 --> 00:02:12,100 between the states and the FEDS, for example, and separate 35 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:13,400 powers. For that matter, between the 36 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:17,200 legislature and the executive. All of these things get skewed 37 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,300 during wartime, especially during a permanent time of War, 38 00:02:21,300 --> 00:02:25,600 like we have now. So, was it mean to be anti-war 39 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,700 in America? Now, it should be just the 40 00:02:28,708 --> 00:02:31,300 ability to wake up in the morning and read. 41 00:02:33,700 --> 00:02:35,600 He is the host of the Scott Horton Show. 42 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:36,400 Check him out. Scott. 43 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:39,500 Horton, dot-org Scott. It seems like a blatant 44 00:02:39,500 --> 00:02:42,400 contradiction that, a lot of people have murder one person. 45 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:45,700 That's a moral murder 10 people. That's really a moral and that's 46 00:02:45,700 --> 00:02:48,700 like serial killer. But when governments wage, mass 47 00:02:48,700 --> 00:02:53,100 murder campaigns, people don't seem to have the same hatred 48 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,600 that they would have for on a smaller scale. 49 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,400 Do you have any idea? How such a trick was more or 50 00:02:58,400 --> 00:03:01,400 less played on the population? Yeah. 51 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:03,600 Well, you know, I think we're all raised this way, especially 52 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,000 in public school. And you can see the obvious 53 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:09,700 exceptions, where raised on those exceptions. 54 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:14,900 What about Hitler? Of course, even though God 55 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,000 issued the Commandment, that thou shalt not kill. 56 00:03:18,900 --> 00:03:22,500 If FDR dresses you up and all of Green to go and face the 57 00:03:22,500 --> 00:03:25,700 wehrmacht in the field, you really telling me. 58 00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:30,600 God would have objected to that. He'll know your country can 59 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,400 issue. Issue you a license to kill in 60 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:39,000 circumstances where otherwise it would be sinful and I know from 61 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:43,800 being a 9th grader and excited about the first Iraq war that 62 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,500 even though I didn't believe in the Republicans or the cause or 63 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:49,400 all the patriotism and yellow ribbons around it so much. 64 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,100 I just wanted to see some explosions. 65 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,900 Now, he really cares so much about the araki's. 66 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:59,200 I didn't believe in George Bush, Senior one, iota at the time, 67 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:05,600 but He was issuing the whole country a license to indulge in 68 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:09,900 our essentially 15 year old level bloodlust. 69 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,200 And and for that matter, just excitement lust, I want to see a 70 00:04:14,208 --> 00:04:17,200 supersonic jet. I want to see tanks actually 71 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,899 used not just featured on the Discovery Channel and what they 72 00:04:20,899 --> 00:04:24,500 could do someday in a war That Never Comes as George Carlin 73 00:04:24,500 --> 00:04:28,600 said, I want to go play with my toys in the sand and it's fun, 74 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:31,500 and exciting. And it's a thing that As you say 75 00:04:31,500 --> 00:04:37,000 you could never do but that you can be really excited about when 76 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:39,800 it comes to war time. And that was, in fact, one of 77 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,000 according to Brent scowcroft himself, one of the major 78 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,500 reasons for the first Iraq war was to break what they called, 79 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:50,000 the Vietnam syndrome, which meant the American people's, 80 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:53,000 especially mental illness that they didn't want to do any more 81 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,600 of these horrible proxy wars in the cold war, with the Soviet 82 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,400 Union after what had happened in Vietnam and they were trying to 83 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:04,200 make war Again, they wanted to dress the thing up with lots of 84 00:05:04,207 --> 00:05:07,300 yellow ribbons and American flags and bright floodlights, 85 00:05:07,500 --> 00:05:11,600 and make TV stars out of the generals in charge, in the way 86 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:14,200 that they did. In order to redeem 87 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:17,400 interventionism in the minds of the American people at that 88 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,900 time, and it worked. And so then, and you see, also 89 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,100 keep there's this diffusion of responsibility, right? 90 00:05:25,100 --> 00:05:29,100 Where if you're a 17 year old kid 18 year old kid and you join 91 00:05:29,100 --> 00:05:33,500 the Army. You know, as they said Kipling 92 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:37,700 right in other circumstances, that yours is not to question. 93 00:05:37,700 --> 00:05:41,800 Why is just to do or die? And but the idea is see there, 94 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:44,700 especially as taught by your fifth grade social studies 95 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:46,100 teacher. Right? 96 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:51,000 Is in government school, is that this is a democracy, and that 97 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,500 means that the adults have talked everything over and have 98 00:05:54,500 --> 00:05:57,600 decided on what is the best course of action, they've 99 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,700 elected the very best people to be in the position. 100 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,500 Missions to make the decisions and they're doing the best they 101 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:06,600 can. And so essentially the history, 102 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,600 especially of the United States is taught as what had to have 103 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,200 been what must have been because it was always the best decision 104 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:18,700 that the people of the country could make at the time. 105 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:24,800 And so then if you're an enlisted man in that service, 106 00:06:25,500 --> 00:06:30,100 your job is to trust. Essentially that through 107 00:06:30,500 --> 00:06:34,300 politics and through the Democratic Republic and all of 108 00:06:34,300 --> 00:06:37,300 the things that you're being used. 109 00:06:37,300 --> 00:06:41,100 Well, it doesn't matter where which country you're Commander, 110 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:44,300 puts your boots on the ground to go in, accomplish your mission, 111 00:06:44,500 --> 00:06:47,600 you've already outsourced the decision-making to someone else. 112 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,900 Your job is leading your team to success that night. 113 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,600 Making sure that they stay alive and that you do too. 114 00:06:53,900 --> 00:06:57,500 And then so they could drop you in Afghanistan or Iraq or Syria 115 00:06:57,500 --> 00:07:00,100 or Libya. The or wherever it is and and 116 00:07:00,100 --> 00:07:02,000 the politics belong to somebody else. 117 00:07:02,100 --> 00:07:05,000 That's up to the kagan's at their Think, Tank to decide who 118 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:09,100 it is that we go to war against. And then also, if you're trained 119 00:07:09,100 --> 00:07:13,000 and we just know this term anecdotal evidence, you go to 120 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,800 the military go through boot. Can't get all this training, you 121 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:19,100 know, there's a war on. You want to fight, that's the 122 00:07:19,100 --> 00:07:21,700 whole thing. It's that same my same 15-year 123 00:07:21,700 --> 00:07:24,700 old mindset during the Iraq War one is the thing that they 124 00:07:24,700 --> 00:07:27,800 encourage and nurture and all of that, you don't realize till you 125 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,600 get Home and turn 23 that like, oh man, this is I was still 126 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,600 essentially thinking like a kid and thinking the thoughts that 127 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,200 they'd put in my head and now look at what I've done and this 128 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,700 kind of thing, and then you have all these people with all these 129 00:07:40,700 --> 00:07:44,600 regrets. But it's, you know, essentially 130 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,800 it's a deception, right? This is why they always have to 131 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,900 bring up Hitler. Because even though he was 132 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:55,600 Facing East and not going to come across the Atlantic Ocean, 133 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,700 that essentially the idea Was that this is the ultimate Evil 134 00:07:59,700 --> 00:08:02,800 that he would have eventually, take over the whole world. 135 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:05,400 We didn't take the opportunity to stop and when we did and that 136 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,000 the only real lesson of World War Two is that we should have 137 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,100 invaded Germany with Britain and France in 1933. 138 00:08:12,100 --> 00:08:14,700 As soon as this guy came to power, we should have launched 139 00:08:14,700 --> 00:08:17,900 an aggressive pre-emptive War, that's the lesson. 140 00:08:18,100 --> 00:08:22,300 And so, then whether it's Manuel, Noriega or David koresh, 141 00:08:22,300 --> 00:08:26,400 Saddam Hussein or moammar Qaddafi or Bashar, al-assad 142 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,200 Vladimir Putin. Our chairman, she for that 143 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:31,900 matter. What is his other name? 144 00:08:31,900 --> 00:08:34,799 Other than chairman, huh? She over there. 145 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:40,100 They're all Hitler and doing anything except immediately 146 00:08:40,100 --> 00:08:43,700 confronting them with overwhelming Force, then is 147 00:08:43,700 --> 00:08:47,600 appeasing Hitler, which was the major lesson of World War Two is 148 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:49,000 that Neville? Chamberlain should have never 149 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,500 made a deal with this guy of any kind and that by doing so it 150 00:08:52,500 --> 00:08:54,900 only enable them and ennoble them and whatever. 151 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,600 And you can totally believe that about the in World War Two and 152 00:08:58,608 --> 00:09:02,000 accept that as your model. I mean, the guy was probably the 153 00:09:02,000 --> 00:09:04,300 most fanatical human who ever lived. 154 00:09:04,300 --> 00:09:09,700 Adolf Hitler on, on any subject. So the idea that he was 155 00:09:09,700 --> 00:09:13,100 essentially going to be this, you know, kind of Unstoppable, 156 00:09:13,400 --> 00:09:17,900 insatiable appetite for increasing, territorial gain in 157 00:09:17,900 --> 00:09:21,300 Europe, and at the expense of the world order and whatever the 158 00:09:21,400 --> 00:09:25,500 you could accept, all of that framing for World War Two, But 159 00:09:25,500 --> 00:09:28,500 just then see how hollow it is to try to put that on to Manuel 160 00:09:28,500 --> 00:09:33,000 Noriega, or put that on to Saddam Hussein or whoever it is 161 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:35,700 and you look at what happens right now on Twitter. 162 00:09:36,100 --> 00:09:40,800 If you say, we got a negotiate with Putin, they say that's like 163 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,200 Neville Chamberlain negotiating with Hitler. 164 00:09:43,500 --> 00:09:47,300 It's what Justin Logan at the Cato Institute back, 12, 13 165 00:09:47,300 --> 00:09:56,800 years ago called the fallacy of 39 and the fallacy of 38 39, And 166 00:09:56,900 --> 00:10:00,200 raimondo wrote about this too, but this is the Neo cons frame 167 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,700 for everything and part of it is cynicism but also part of it is 168 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:10,300 some of their families had come from Europe and survived and or 169 00:10:10,300 --> 00:10:13,600 their you know families had been killed in the Holocaust so 170 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:17,500 that's absolutely the way that they looked at it was you know 171 00:10:17,500 --> 00:10:19,400 in other words we're always Superman. 172 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:23,300 And the enemy is always Lex Luthor and there's no time to 173 00:10:23,300 --> 00:10:26,600 waste and That's the level of emergency. 174 00:10:26,700 --> 00:10:30,400 Now, if you look at the parallels, I mean, if you want 175 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:35,700 to make an analogy on Russia right now, I think this guy's 176 00:10:35,700 --> 00:10:39,400 probably not Hitler. Maybe he's Hindenburg and we 177 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:42,300 ought to be lucky to have him before the next Chancellor 178 00:10:42,300 --> 00:10:43,500 comes. God forbid. 179 00:10:43,500 --> 00:10:47,000 What is, you know, waiting in the wings to replace this guy 180 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,800 who, after all, this is the same guy that Bill Clinton and w-- 181 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,200 Bush and Barack Obama and Donald Trump. 182 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,400 And frankly, Joe Biden have been dealing with and talking with 183 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,200 negotiating with on all kinds of issues. 184 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:01,200 When you're straight and no question. 185 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,200 He's a strong man. He still the same president over 186 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:04,900 there. He stepped aside for, just a 187 00:11:04,908 --> 00:11:08,900 minute, but, you know, Condoleezza Rice had to go on TV 188 00:11:08,900 --> 00:11:11,200 and say, well, I think he must be mentally ill now. 189 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:15,200 Because this isn't the Vladimir vladimirovich Putin. 190 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,700 That I know. Well, yes it is. 191 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:21,100 He's just finally reacting to her stupid, stunt trying to 192 00:11:21,100 --> 00:11:24,100 bring Ukraine and Georgia into nato in 2008. 193 00:11:24,100 --> 00:11:27,700 She can't take responsibility like that for her guilt. 194 00:11:27,700 --> 00:11:30,200 So instead she's got to pretend that he's He's crazy. 195 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,600 You know, something, you know, nuts is going on. 196 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:37,300 Try to change the frame. Now, he's not essentially like a 197 00:11:37,300 --> 00:11:40,800 pretty hard right Republican now, he's Hitler. 198 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:46,400 Now, he's a nutcase who can only be dealt with by force and so 199 00:11:46,400 --> 00:11:50,300 that's the way they frame things and after all like it's easy 200 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,700 everybody knows who Hitler is and everybody knows the lesson 201 00:11:54,700 --> 00:11:57,100 as we all learned it in school, is that we should have launched 202 00:11:57,100 --> 00:11:59,300 that war earlier man. We should have not a way. 203 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:01,400 Little Pearl Harbor. We should have been killing them 204 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:04,000 Nazis as soon as they were Nazis, why not? 205 00:12:04,300 --> 00:12:06,400 And that's certainly the way I was taught it. 206 00:12:06,700 --> 00:12:11,000 And so then that is the lesson. Of course, we're also taught 207 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:14,100 that in World War Two, that it was America that defeated Nazi 208 00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:16,700 Germany. When it's true that, yes, 209 00:12:16,700 --> 00:12:20,300 America and Britain played their part but it was the Soviet Union 210 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:24,700 that had taken the brunt of the Nazis violence and had repelled 211 00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:28,700 it and ultimately they were the ones who liberated Berlin. 212 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,700 And, you know, got there first and all of that. 213 00:12:31,700 --> 00:12:35,500 But because they're the commies, they erase that part of the 214 00:12:35,500 --> 00:12:37,700 story from the way that we learn it here in America. 215 00:12:37,708 --> 00:12:41,700 So now it was Hitler, was rampaging across the entire 216 00:12:41,700 --> 00:12:44,400 world and there was no one to stop until finally Uncle. 217 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:47,700 Sam was roused from his Slumber and came and did the thing and 218 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:50,700 only because the Japanese were dumb enough to attack us and 219 00:12:50,700 --> 00:12:53,200 only because Hitler was dumb enough to finally declare war on 220 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,000 us. When they could have, should 221 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,600 have left us alone from their point of view, and they would 222 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:01,700 have one which is not Right. You know, Soviets think they're 223 00:13:01,700 --> 00:13:04,900 going to win that war. Anyway, although Lend-Lease 224 00:13:04,900 --> 00:13:08,800 didn't hurt exactly. Yeah but we can negotiate with 225 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,900 Stalin and form an alliance with them. 226 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,300 But Putin just cannot cannot be spoken to. 227 00:13:13,300 --> 00:13:15,700 And in fact, as long as you're on that line, I guess we'll get 228 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:18,000 back to it. But it's worth pointing out that 229 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,300 at that time we were a lying. Yes, with Stalin, the leader of 230 00:13:21,308 --> 00:13:24,900 the Soviet Union against Hitler and the Nazis. 231 00:13:25,400 --> 00:13:29,400 And then now in Ukraine, we relying with not really a Nazi A 232 00:13:29,408 --> 00:13:32,700 government but a government that's infested with Nazis and a 233 00:13:32,708 --> 00:13:35,900 military force that's infested with Nazis with extreme 234 00:13:35,900 --> 00:13:41,000 right-wing nationalist there. In Ukraine against not comee, 235 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:45,300 Soviet Union, Russia, but just red white and blue Republican. 236 00:13:45,300 --> 00:13:51,500 Russia corrupt, American style, corporatism Russia with no 237 00:13:51,500 --> 00:13:55,800 ideological axe to grind. No Global battle for dominance 238 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,900 between capitalism and communism to be found. 239 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:01,500 If anything he represents like Reagan. 240 00:14:01,500 --> 00:14:04,500 I Tara Republican politics, Radomir Putin. 241 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:07,600 Does you know what I mean? It's your, why would National 242 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,900 socialists against Republicans? Whereas before we were willing 243 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:16,800 to lie, even with the worst Communists in order to defeat 244 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:22,000 Nazis, And Richard Nixon was shaken hands with Chairman Mao, 245 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:25,200 as evil as he was, it's better than provoking a war even 246 00:14:25,300 --> 00:14:29,800 invited Emperor, Hirohito to shake hands with at a meeting in 247 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,200 America. So, great very valuable points. 248 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,300 You mentioned there you mentioned historical narratives 249 00:14:35,300 --> 00:14:38,000 a sense of urgency, the citizenry, finding meaning in 250 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:41,700 war, very little accountability, and government schools, all sort 251 00:14:41,700 --> 00:14:45,000 of for are many sides of this different Cube that allow people 252 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,500 to justify the atrocities. When done under Under the guise 253 00:14:48,500 --> 00:14:52,600 of War, check out LP dot-org for more information on the 254 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,500 libertarian party. Scott, what else do people need 255 00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:58,000 to understand about the war in Ukraine? 256 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:01,300 Well, a lot of things but I think, you know, in the last 257 00:15:01,300 --> 00:15:04,900 point if I can find a good segue here, I mean, one thing would be 258 00:15:04,900 --> 00:15:08,000 that you should know that there are a lot of conservative 259 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:14,400 Republicans who carry no brief for Vladimir Putin whatsoever. 260 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:17,700 But people like Pat Buchanan, who was a speechwriter? 261 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:22,000 For Richard Nixon and for Ronald Reagan, and absolutely still a 262 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,900 supporter of every bit of the last Cold War up until this day, 263 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:31,600 who's been warning for years? That we should not be taking 264 00:15:31,600 --> 00:15:35,600 this course in Ukraine. And I think the social 265 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:41,500 psychology of the situation is important because If people 266 00:15:41,500 --> 00:15:44,900 believe that the anti-war position is simply the province 267 00:15:44,900 --> 00:15:49,000 of naive, hippie girls in sundresses, singing Give Peace a 268 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:53,100 chance, then it's easy for the war party to form the narrative 269 00:15:53,100 --> 00:15:54,200 that. Yeah. 270 00:15:54,200 --> 00:15:57,600 But anyway, you know us professionals know what must be 271 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,000 done. And so we can safely ignore that 272 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,400 point of view. But when you have conservatives 273 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,100 Like Pat Buchanan like Colonel, Douglas McGregor who people see 274 00:16:06,100 --> 00:16:09,400 on the Tucker Carlson show and for that matter Tucker Carlson 275 00:16:09,900 --> 00:16:13,200 but that man Or Donald Trump. He was not really that anti-war, 276 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,900 although he did to his credit. Absolutely, he negotiated an 277 00:16:16,900 --> 00:16:21,700 exit from Afghanistan with the Taliban, which any got saw make 278 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:23,500 alleles. I'd do it, which is just 279 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:25,600 incredible. But other than that, it wasn't 280 00:16:25,600 --> 00:16:28,200 that he was a really great anti-war president. 281 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:33,100 But it was that he said, really anti-war things and being Donald 282 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:34,900 Trump. Everything's, hyperbole, every 283 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:37,300 comes out to the, everything comes out to the maximum. 284 00:16:37,500 --> 00:16:40,200 So, not only should George w-- Bush. 285 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:42,800 Have not invaded Iraq but George w--. 286 00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:45,200 Bush was the worst president ever, who made the worst 287 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,800 decision that any American president ever made which was to 288 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,900 go to the Middle East at all right. 289 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,100 So now we might even be talking about his father, right? 290 00:16:54,100 --> 00:16:57,700 Like I spent 30 years to this over there, so when he says it 291 00:16:57,700 --> 00:17:01,600 like that, what that means then is you don't have to be a 292 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:03,200 hippie, you can be. It's cool. 293 00:17:03,200 --> 00:17:04,500 Hippie. Sighing thrashing you. 294 00:17:04,500 --> 00:17:06,800 But I'm just saying you don't have to be a hippie. 295 00:17:06,900 --> 00:17:09,599 You don't have to be an anti-American communist. 296 00:17:09,599 --> 00:17:12,200 You have to be of this Narrative of like born on the fourth of 297 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,200 July. Well, I was a patriot and I went 298 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:16,500 to the war and then I came home and became a communist. 299 00:17:16,599 --> 00:17:18,900 And then, you know, that's forget. 300 00:17:18,900 --> 00:17:23,599 All that vietnam-era stuff, new left stuff right now, especially 301 00:17:23,599 --> 00:17:27,900 the anti-war movement is led by bunch of combat veterans. 302 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:32,100 Look at Dan McKnight and the guys at bring our troops home 303 00:17:32,100 --> 00:17:35,900 dot u, s pushing the defend the guard legislation throughout the 304 00:17:35,900 --> 00:17:39,300 country, and then look at. Hey, there's just no question 305 00:17:39,300 --> 00:17:42,300 about the best anti-war. Guy on TV again is Tucker 306 00:17:42,300 --> 00:17:47,900 Carlson who was a hawk on a rock or two and sincerely regrets it 307 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:51,500 and it's been, you know, quite deliberately attempting. 308 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:55,200 I think to make up for it ever since by being the best anti-war 309 00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,800 guy. I mean, he's a little hawkish on 310 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,200 China, but even then he didn't really say, War hockey things 311 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:02,200 about China. Like we should definitely defend 312 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,200 Taiwan and stuff like that. I don't think many ways 313 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:07,400 certainly great on the Middle East and on Russia. 314 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:10,500 Now, one of the best we have. And so, to me, Me. 315 00:18:10,700 --> 00:18:12,800 That's what's so important is and look, I know I'm a 316 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,900 Libertarian I'm talking to Libertarians, but I'm just 317 00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:21,900 saying in the world that we live in sentiment on these issues is 318 00:18:21,900 --> 00:18:25,600 pretty much divided by left and right, and it's important that 319 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,200 people who identify on the right side at all. 320 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Eli cohn's, you like capitalism, you like church, you like George 321 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,700 Washington, whatever. Like, in the most General sense. 322 00:18:36,700 --> 00:18:40,000 Broadly defined. If you're on the right, it's 323 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,900 okay. For you to hate all this stuff, 324 00:18:41,900 --> 00:18:43,800 you have to believe in this crap. 325 00:18:44,000 --> 00:18:47,100 I think about what we're talking about things that Bill Clinton 326 00:18:47,100 --> 00:18:50,500 and George Bush. And Barack Obama did with the 327 00:18:50,508 --> 00:18:52,900 help of John McCain and Joe Biden. 328 00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:57,700 There's no reason in the world why Americans should have to 329 00:18:57,700 --> 00:19:03,600 identify themselves with these policies or these presidents and 330 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,800 their policies with this country. 331 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:09,800 Maybe this is just a bunch of bad stuff that happened to us. 332 00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:13,200 Just the same as it happened to these other people too. 333 00:19:14,300 --> 00:19:19,100 And it's just a way of framing it and look mean, anyone can 334 00:19:19,100 --> 00:19:22,200 tell you all of the worse than all the culture War, 335 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:27,300 notwithstanding at all. It's the war on terrorism that 336 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:31,600 has been the war on our economy. The war on our Liberty. 337 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:36,300 In this Society, the war on, even the form of our government. 338 00:19:36,300 --> 00:19:40,400 Remember, Bush, and Cheney and the unitary executive, you know, 339 00:19:40,500 --> 00:19:43,800 this is and, and just their entire theory that the president 340 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:46,700 can. So any law, any treaty any other 341 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:50,000 part of the Constitution that he wants by simply invoking? 342 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,500 The commander-in-chief clause which is just nonsense. 343 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,800 It's only able they're only able to try that due to the state of 344 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,400 emergency. So, if you define yourself, you 345 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:07,400 know, allied with conservatism at all, well, what's to conserve 346 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,500 its the US Constitution or else? What are we doing here? 347 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:13,900 And you can't have that in a state of War. 348 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,500 So, this is, you know, Garrett, Garrett, complain, just raimondo 349 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:20,200 used to. Always Echo Garrett, we say, the 350 00:20:20,208 --> 00:20:24,100 American people have never had a choice between Republic and 351 00:20:24,100 --> 00:20:28,000 Empire. It was always Wilkie versus FDR, 352 00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:32,100 or do we versus Truman? In other words, Rockefeller 353 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:35,200 versus Morgan. Yeah, good luck for you, right. 354 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,900 We don't have a say in this and we never got a say, we never had 355 00:20:38,900 --> 00:20:42,900 a presidential candidacy. That was based truly on ending 356 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:45,600 the Empire Andres. Storing the constitutional 357 00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:52,800 republic until the year 2008 60 70, 80 75 years later after the 358 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,400 National Security Act right after 70 years later after his 359 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,700 just too late, after they the road to Empire had already been 360 00:21:01,700 --> 00:21:05,100 taken and when Ron Paul offered them a constitutional republic. 361 00:21:05,100 --> 00:21:06,800 They didn't even know what he was talking about. 362 00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:11,000 It couldn't even understand it was that alien concept to our 363 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:13,600 current system. That's the war that has 364 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,800 destroyed. Our constitution truly. 365 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,500 It's like and Star Wars republic or Empire. 366 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,200 You can't have it both ways. The Jedi thought, they could 367 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,700 have it both ways up. They all got stabbed in the back 368 00:21:24,700 --> 00:21:27,200 and killed and the whole galaxy got enslaved. 369 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,500 And so that's obviously, the parable is about our country and 370 00:21:31,500 --> 00:21:36,900 about how how we treat our own legacy you mentioned. 371 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,500 And that NATO had something to do with this. 372 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,600 But with the current conflict in Russia. 373 00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:46,800 How does having a military Alliance simply just making sure 374 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,800 people next to you are on the same page, if you're ever 375 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:53,500 attacked, how would that provoke Putin into going into Ukraine? 376 00:21:53,500 --> 00:21:56,400 Wouldn't that deter him? Well, so that's the whole thing 377 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,200 about it is the claim is, this is purely a defensive Alliance. 378 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,800 But defensive against who, if it's against someone that you 379 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:07,600 claim all along these, your friend, who you Have a fight 380 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:11,100 with but you continue to build up a military alliance against 381 00:22:11,100 --> 00:22:12,600 that friend. You could see why that friend 382 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,600 would begin to suspect that you don't really mean what you say. 383 00:22:15,900 --> 00:22:17,700 And there are plenty of anecdotes. 384 00:22:17,700 --> 00:22:18,800 I'm working on a book about this. 385 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,600 I'm collecting these anecdotes like, Hot Wheels cars here where 386 00:22:24,300 --> 00:22:28,800 the American side different officials have said throughout 387 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,000 the decades. Now going back to the Clinton 388 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:33,200 years that. Yeah, we just never took their 389 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,600 concerns seriously. Because one we would say, Come 390 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:40,100 on it's a defense of a line. Somebody thinks NATO's going to 391 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:42,700 attack Russia, NATO's not going to attack Russia. 392 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:47,500 We're not going to attack you. So, if you claim to be worried 393 00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:52,200 about that one, we're dismissing your claim because we think it's 394 00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,400 like dishonest, right? Or two, we think that you're 395 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:58,900 just being foolish and we're not going to change our policy 396 00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:04,600 because you're like overreacting but then three What are they 397 00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:09,400 going to do about it anyway? And that was the idea 398 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:14,400 essentially that you have an enemy in the neighborhood guy 399 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:18,300 that you don't get along with anyway and you start making 400 00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:23,700 allies out of all his neighbors and all of his Pals, kicking 401 00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:26,600 people out of their houses and replacing them with friends and 402 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,300 then arming them up and camping out on his front yard. 403 00:23:31,900 --> 00:23:33,300 Is it? Well as long as he doesn't come 404 00:23:33,300 --> 00:23:35,000 outside with a gun and try to fight it. 405 00:23:35,008 --> 00:23:37,000 So I don't know what he thinks the problem is. 406 00:23:37,900 --> 00:23:39,500 And that's essentially the posture. 407 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:42,900 But the Americans, the American government and the American 408 00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:48,200 Media refused to ever explain to the American people is how any 409 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:52,800 of these actions might look from the other side's point of view. 410 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:57,100 And again we're not talking about the Communists here so you 411 00:23:57,100 --> 00:24:00,700 don't and you don't have to have any sympathy for Putin or His 412 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:04,300 party or his politics whatsoever to, I'm just saying I'm bringing 413 00:24:04,300 --> 00:24:06,700 up the Comet or something. Just to say, there's nothing to 414 00:24:06,700 --> 00:24:10,200 be hysterical about here, you know what I mean? 415 00:24:10,300 --> 00:24:13,100 Oh, the commie One World Revolution is going to take over 416 00:24:13,100 --> 00:24:14,600 the whole planet and blah de blah. 417 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,500 And I'm so scared. And okay, well, that's a long 418 00:24:17,500 --> 00:24:20,600 time ago. We can be dispassionate enough 419 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,300 about this and look and see how it is, and what it is that 420 00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:28,000 they're doing. And so what has happened, is one 421 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:32,000 the Bush Administration at the The Cold War promise, not to 422 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,200 expand NATO Eastward, but they were lying. 423 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:37,800 They were planning on expanding NATO. 424 00:24:37,900 --> 00:24:41,700 Eastward, they did not want to bring Russian in as a partner. 425 00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,000 They were just going to have to learn to accept it. 426 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,300 And then the Clinton Administration picked up the 427 00:24:46,300 --> 00:24:50,400 policy, and truly did begin to expand NATO wage Wars against 428 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,600 Serbia, twice the Russians close allies, they sent the Harvard 429 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,800 boys over there to help destroy the Russian economy deliberately 430 00:24:57,800 --> 00:24:59,700 kicking them. While they're down even 431 00:24:59,700 --> 00:25:02,500 according to Jeff, Three sacks who was one of the guys who was 432 00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:05,400 sent over there to help to Cripple their economy. 433 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:12,800 And then also the I was on a roll about Bill Clinton there 434 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:18,400 and then I forgot, let's see Serbia and NATO expansion and 435 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:21,100 the economics, I think that's my three main points on Clinton 436 00:25:21,100 --> 00:25:23,600 then W. Bush comes in, oh, and Bill. 437 00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,100 Clinton started, the color-coded Revolution by overthrowing the 438 00:25:26,100 --> 00:25:30,100 government of Serbia. Finally, in the year. 2000 W, 439 00:25:30,100 --> 00:25:31,800 bush. Then he tears up, the 440 00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,600 anti-ballistic missile treaty and starts building up defense 441 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,100 so-called defensive missile posture in Romania and Poland 442 00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:44,400 and he continues the color-coded revolutions against Georgia, 443 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:51,300 Belarus Tajikistan, Lebanon. And of course, Ukraine the first 444 00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:55,300 time in 2004, now in Belarus, it didn't work in Tajikistan. 445 00:25:55,300 --> 00:25:59,900 In Lebanon, it didn't work and Tajikistan in Georgia, in 03 and 446 00:25:59,900 --> 00:26:01,800 in Ukraine. Nando for did work. 447 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:07,100 But this is essentially, these are CIA coup d'etat, cause 448 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:11,200 National Endowment for democracy allied with George Soros and 449 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:15,200 other, you know, billionaire funded so called non 450 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,700 governmental organizations that Finance these protest movements, 451 00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:24,200 and essentially dress up, a put as a revolution and they all got 452 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:27,600 these cute color coded names for them and all of these things. 453 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:36,800 And then, Obama comes in he continues to oh I'm sorry. 454 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:41,200 W-- bush in 08, over the objections of the CIA and his 455 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:44,000 National Security Council and his closest advisers on this 456 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,300 including the ubiquitous Warhawk Fiona Hill. 457 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:53,200 He went ahead and invited Ukraine and Georgia to get on an 458 00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,700 action plan toward eventual, NATO membership. 459 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,200 And that was because Germany and France, put their foot down and 460 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,800 said you absolutely will not Not invite them to join NATO because 461 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,000 it'll be an unnecessary provocation against the 462 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,200 Russians. So Bush said, oh yeah, well, I'm 463 00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:10,600 still going to do this thing that he might as well have 464 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,600 brought them in an 80, because by calling you to action plan. 465 00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:17,000 And then especially following there with the intelligence and 466 00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:20,300 Military cooperation after that, he was announcing de facto. 467 00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:25,000 If not disarray NATO membership beginning, then for Ukraine and 468 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:29,300 for Georgia, and then the Georgians really started it. 469 00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:34,900 As Part of their attempt to join NATO, was in 2000 and just three 470 00:27:34,900 --> 00:27:39,900 months four months after the Budapest or the Bucharest. 471 00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:42,700 I forget, which was which the Declaration of bringing them in 472 00:27:43,100 --> 00:27:47,400 to, to eventually bring them into NATO, the Georgians 473 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:50,400 attacked a couple of breakaway provinces or they were, I guess 474 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,400 they went first after South ossetia and they were going to 475 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:56,700 go after abkhazia. These two, Breakaway provinces 476 00:27:56,700 --> 00:28:01,600 of Georgia and the Russians came across And kick the Georgians 477 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,700 back out again and secured. The so-called independence of us 478 00:28:04,700 --> 00:28:06,500 that you under Russian protection. 479 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:10,600 And now that was because to join NATO, you have to have settled 480 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:14,600 borders and so that's why no one even talks about bringing Israel 481 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,200 into NATO. Because everybody knows that 482 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,500 greater Israel is supposed to go all the way to the Euphrates 483 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:21,200 River someday or something like that, so they don't ever want to 484 00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,600 claim. Even at the Jordan River, is 485 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:27,800 their eastern border. And so that's why it's, you 486 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:31,200 know, it's in the NATO rules. You have to Settled border. 487 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:32,500 So, that's what George was trying to do. 488 00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:35,300 There was settle their border by solving the situation, with 489 00:28:35,300 --> 00:28:40,600 their break off States, you know, violently but quickly, 490 00:28:40,900 --> 00:28:45,700 which did not work for them. But anyway, so here W bush 491 00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:51,900 overthrew and non-cooperative government in Ukraine, and then 492 00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:55,100 invited the new government that he had installed in power, to 493 00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:59,100 get, you know, on the path to join the NATO military Alliance. 494 00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:01,800 Oh, and I forgot to mention, Under Obama, that he expanded 495 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,100 NATO by what 9 or 12 more countries or whatever it was 496 00:29:05,100 --> 00:29:08,300 massively. I didn't get to Obama. 497 00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:10,200 You know, pushed it is what I say. 498 00:29:10,300 --> 00:29:15,700 Clinton start out with 3 and then Bush added nine or 12 or 499 00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:18,100 something like that. Obama only had another for I 500 00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:21,800 think Bush did the main you know expansion of NATO including to 501 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,400 the Baltic states Latvia Lithuania and Estonia. 502 00:29:25,700 --> 00:29:30,300 Now Latvia and Estonia, share a border with Russia Lithuania. 503 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:33,500 Any, it doesn't because they're they almost do though, they're 504 00:29:33,500 --> 00:29:36,000 right there. Jason next to Belarus crammed in 505 00:29:36,008 --> 00:29:38,400 there, between Belarus and Poland and the Black Sea there. 506 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,800 But these are all essentially on, Russia's border. 507 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,200 And anyway, soon Obama comes in and Obama continues with the 508 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,400 color-coded revolutions. And he also, you know, launches 509 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,900 these massive sanctions against Russia and all these other 510 00:29:54,900 --> 00:29:57,600 things. But most importantly, for our 511 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,300 story, he overthrew the government. 512 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:05,100 And for the second time in ten years, in February of, 2010 was 513 00:30:05,100 --> 00:30:09,100 the same guy Yanukovych, who was denied his presidency, after 514 00:30:09,100 --> 00:30:11,400 winning the election of 04 in the orange. 515 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,300 Revolution, this time he had become the president. 516 00:30:14,300 --> 00:30:19,000 Finally been elected in 2010 and they were essentially trying to 517 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,500 get rid of the guy. And, and they did, they 518 00:30:22,500 --> 00:30:27,000 overthrow him and it was, it's a somewhat complicated story, but 519 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,600 essentially he was to make a deal with the EU or with the And 520 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,800 he chose the Russians against the EU. 521 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,100 And so there were, you know, I guess what you would call a 522 00:30:37,100 --> 00:30:40,600 liberal forces, but also allied with very right-wing 523 00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,900 nationalist. Ukrainian forces in the western 524 00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:46,100 half of the country who are really upset, not so much, they 525 00:30:46,100 --> 00:30:49,600 were being denied membership in the EU as much as that they 526 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,100 were. This present was tilting their 527 00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,700 country back toward Russia in a way that they didn't accept in a 528 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,900 way that he had promised not to do previously. 529 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:01,700 And so this Protest, movement, broke out. 530 00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:06,800 And of course, all funded and obviously controlled by the ngos 531 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,800 financed by the Americans and their Allied ngos. 532 00:31:10,100 --> 00:31:13,200 And this includes people like George Soros and Pierre omidyar. 533 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,600 The famous, you know, co founder of eBay who then was, is still 534 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:25,500 the funder of the intercept and he, and Soros and some others. 535 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,700 And along in cooperation with the National Endowment for 536 00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:32,200 democracy, back to the Groups that overthrew the government 537 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:36,000 and what ultimately was a violent Street put in February 538 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:42,700 of 2014 and as a direct result of that, the and not, well, I 539 00:31:42,708 --> 00:31:47,300 don't want to skip a step. It's important to stay the three 540 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:51,800 former presidents of Ukraine issued a letter say, now, is our 541 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,300 chance to kick the Russians out of the sevastopol naval base on 542 00:31:56,300 --> 00:32:00,200 the Crimean Peninsula. Now, Crimea had always belonged 543 00:32:00,300 --> 00:32:04,800 and to the Russians since 1783, when Catherine, the Great kind 544 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:09,100 of, you know, took it and kind of bought it from the Turks that 545 00:32:09,100 --> 00:32:13,100 was the year that John, Jay Benjamin Franklin, and John 546 00:32:13,100 --> 00:32:16,700 Adams traveled to France to sign the Treaty of Paris officially 547 00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:20,700 ending the revolutionary war with Britain for years before, 548 00:32:20,700 --> 00:32:22,200 our Constitution was even written. 549 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:28,400 And but what had happened, was Cruise, Jeff, the Supreme 550 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,200 dictator of the Soviet Union, right? 551 00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:33,900 The General Secretary of the Communist Party of the Soviet 552 00:32:33,900 --> 00:32:38,600 Union and issued a decree in 1954 that Crimea now, belonged 553 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:41,500 to Ukraine. So then when the Soviet Union 554 00:32:41,500 --> 00:32:47,300 collapsed in 1988 through 91 there and eventually it was in 555 00:32:47,300 --> 00:32:50,500 1991 that Ukraine got their independence, the Russians were 556 00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:52,700 really in no position to dispute it anyway. 557 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,400 So the Russians ended up making a deal that was really signed on 558 00:32:56,400 --> 00:33:04,600 I guess by 93 that said that the Crimean Peninsula gets to still 559 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,100 belong to Ukraine but the Russians get to keep their Naval 560 00:33:08,100 --> 00:33:10,600 Base there and they'll pay a lease for it. 561 00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:15,800 So this status Court held for 24 years until Obama overthrew the 562 00:33:15,800 --> 00:33:18,800 government and until then these former president said, now's our 563 00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:20,300 chance to kick the Russians out of here. 564 00:33:20,900 --> 00:33:24,600 Only then did the Russians sees the Crimean Peninsula with 565 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,600 essentially zero violence. I guess there's a report of 566 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,000 single digit casualties like 5 or Yes, I don't think any of 567 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,600 those are even necessarily directly attributable to Russian 568 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:39,400 forces, but it was essentially just a coup de main where the 569 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:44,000 Marines and the sailors at the Naval Base, just went outside 570 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,900 and stood on street corners and said, this belongs to us now, 571 00:33:46,900 --> 00:33:53,000 and then, that was it done. And so the Russians, you know, 572 00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:55,000 that is illegal under international law. 573 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,600 But then again, so is launching an aggressive War based on lies 574 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,100 against Serbia to break off Coast. 575 00:34:00,300 --> 00:34:04,800 So in 1999 to and I'm not justifying it, I'm just 576 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,900 explaining the context. There was that the Americans 577 00:34:07,900 --> 00:34:11,000 were putting the Russians in a terrible position later. 578 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:12,699 Putin actually even joked about it. 579 00:34:12,699 --> 00:34:16,699 And said, you know, we thought about how nice it would be to go 580 00:34:16,699 --> 00:34:20,300 and visit our NATO friends at their suggestible, Naval base 581 00:34:20,300 --> 00:34:23,199 for the holidays, and then we decided not, you know, what 582 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:27,100 would just keep the base and you guys can come and visit us and 583 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:29,199 so, yeah. Okay, makes sense. 584 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:35,300 And then what Was there were people dissidents in the Far 585 00:34:35,300 --> 00:34:39,199 East of the country in Donetsk and luhansk who seized 586 00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:42,100 government buildings there and said if you guys can see these 587 00:34:42,100 --> 00:34:44,699 government buildings in Kiev and overthrow the government, then 588 00:34:44,699 --> 00:34:47,300 we can seize government buildings and refuse to 589 00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:50,900 recognize your Authority here in the Far East of the country. 590 00:34:51,199 --> 00:34:55,199 And then the new Kiev regime, immediately launched what they 591 00:34:55,199 --> 00:34:58,300 call the war on terrorism and attacked the East. 592 00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:02,300 And it is true that the Russian In Special Operations forces to 593 00:35:02,300 --> 00:35:07,000 assist the Russian separatists, so-called Rebels, whatever you 594 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,300 call them, they're in the donbas. 595 00:35:09,500 --> 00:35:12,600 But at the time, of course, the media said over and over again 596 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,400 at the Russians, have launched this full-scale Invasion. 597 00:35:15,500 --> 00:35:17,000 And all these things that really wasn't true. 598 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:21,100 They sent only essentially deniable forces across to keep 599 00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:25,700 Kiev from winning out, right? They could have done what 600 00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:29,200 they've done this year back then and just said, oh, yeah, and 601 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,000 taking a magic marker. And said, this is the new 602 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,600 international border and we're occupying it. 603 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:37,800 And they would have been in a much stronger position to do 604 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:40,800 that compared to the strength of the Ukrainian forces at the 605 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,300 time, if they had done so. But Putin told them, no, they 606 00:35:44,300 --> 00:35:47,600 said they declared independence in the East and then petition to 607 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:51,300 join the Russian Federation and he told them no, because he was 608 00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:54,000 working on a peace deal with the Germans and the French beginning 609 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:57,700 in the fall of 2014. The first one was called Minsk 610 00:35:57,700 --> 00:36:03,500 and then the second one was Minsk. 82 in February of 2015 611 00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:07,000 and you know, annexing the territory would have been 612 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,400 completely contrary to that the deal was supposed to be to end 613 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,100 the fighting or Anna least certainly I think the first deal 614 00:36:14,100 --> 00:36:17,400 did call back the air strikes, and the heaviest equipment and 615 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:22,800 that kind of thing, and then it was supposed to end the 616 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,600 fighting. And then the national government 617 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:28,500 in Kiev was supposed to launch, an economic rebuilding type 618 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:31,900 project in the East and give Essentially, what we would call 619 00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:35,100 in America statehood like strong federalism. 620 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,300 Well, we use federalism upside down in America to mean like a 621 00:36:38,300 --> 00:36:40,200 strong national government in this case. 622 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,100 I mean, it like in, you know, when Biden was trying to break 623 00:36:43,100 --> 00:36:47,700 Iraq into three, strong federalism, meaning more and 624 00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:52,100 more autonomy and Authority for the East separate, you know, in 625 00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:57,300 other words, remaining a part of the Ukrainian State more in name 626 00:36:57,300 --> 00:37:01,100 than in real practice. But still Remaining within 627 00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:04,300 Ukraine. And so that was the means to 628 00:37:04,300 --> 00:37:07,900 deal and it's just clear key that the Americans even though 629 00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:10,500 the Obama government rubber-stamped, it was Angela 630 00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:13,900 Merkel from Germany and Francois Holland from France. 631 00:37:13,900 --> 00:37:17,000 The president of France who had worked out the men's deal Obama 632 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,600 had rubber-stamped at the UN had rubber-stamped it but it's clear 633 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,800 that the Obama government never meant it and never really helped 634 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,200 to implement the deal. And in fact what do they do? 635 00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:30,200 They embarked on a program they say no weapons, although I think 636 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,500 There's some reports that there were already weapons going there 637 00:37:33,500 --> 00:37:36,200 during Obama but still they're sending him home bees and 638 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,400 sending them equipment, boots and laces and camping gear and 639 00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,300 whatever kind of anything that they can send as terms of 640 00:37:43,300 --> 00:37:46,100 non-lethal Aid. And then sending our Rangers 641 00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:49,100 over there to train all of their guys and all this started in 642 00:37:49,100 --> 00:37:53,300 2014 is going on the whole time. So even though Obama put a 643 00:37:53,308 --> 00:37:55,900 rubber stamp on this peace deal, he never meant that peace deal, 644 00:37:55,900 --> 00:37:57,900 they didn't want it. And so you had what they called, 645 00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:02,700 low-level fighting that went on. For seven years from 2014. 646 00:38:02,700 --> 00:38:05,400 I'm really beginning with high-level fighting but you 647 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:10,500 know, the low level beginning in 2015 and continuing throughout 648 00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:13,500 the beginning of this year, which was the major complaint of 649 00:38:13,500 --> 00:38:16,500 the Russians that of course, our media never really explained 650 00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:23,600 that this war has been going on. Since Joe Biden. 651 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,600 The point man. On Ukraine in the Barack Obama 652 00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:32,200 government in 2014 launch this coup and and this war broke out 653 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,100 in the East. Now what Putin is doing some 654 00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:38,000 major escalation of that same War. 655 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,700 Its I'm not denying that its own Invasion and you could even say 656 00:38:42,700 --> 00:38:46,700 like its own War but well really no. 657 00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:51,000 I mean there's been fighting going on all along and including 658 00:38:51,300 --> 00:38:55,200 You know right up until the attack happened in the 659 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,200 organization for security and cooperation in Europe they keep 660 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,100 all the statistics for the UN about who was dying and it was 661 00:39:03,100 --> 00:39:07,600 civilians and fighters on the separatist side being 662 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:11,400 slaughtered by their government and so there's a coup in. 663 00:39:11,500 --> 00:39:17,100 Kiev we go from Yanukovych to was this poor shank oh is that 664 00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:21,200 the guy who was installed right after Yanukovych and then The 665 00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:24,700 people in the East don't recognize the legitimacy of the 666 00:39:24,700 --> 00:39:27,900 regime in the west, they declare a war on terrorism on the 667 00:39:27,900 --> 00:39:30,600 terrorists. In the East, this donbas region, 668 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,900 do we have estimates on civilian deaths? 669 00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:37,500 I think the total deaths are approximately 14,000 in the 670 00:39:37,500 --> 00:39:40,400 majority of those although I'm not exactly certain the numbers 671 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:46,500 but virtually certain that it's a significant majority of those 672 00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:49,100 are civilian dead because you're talking about just artillery 673 00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:52,800 being blasted into civilian areas and I kind of one final 674 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,300 thing on Russia and Ukraine and then I want to get to other 675 00:39:55,300 --> 00:39:58,900 aspects of foreign policy. You mention a document that 676 00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:03,200 Wikileaks released in 2008, this would sort of indicate that 677 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,500 there was not Just that such a thing Could Happen. 678 00:40:05,500 --> 00:40:07,700 Tell us about this document. Yeah. 679 00:40:07,700 --> 00:40:11,900 There's a whole bunch of things along these lines about just 680 00:40:11,900 --> 00:40:13,900 what gains were? They knew that they were messing 681 00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:17,100 with here and again, people should really be clear. 682 00:40:17,300 --> 00:40:19,100 I don't disclaim to Pander to anyone. 683 00:40:19,100 --> 00:40:21,400 I just want people to not misunderstand. 684 00:40:21,700 --> 00:40:24,800 I'm a Texan. Give a damn about Russia, my 685 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:28,400 wife, she speaks Russian, but she's Ukrainian not Russian. 686 00:40:28,700 --> 00:40:32,500 So, you know, if I got a dog in this hunt, it's on their side. 687 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,700 It's really on America side. So I'm not here to carry a brief 688 00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:41,800 for the Russians or for their policy here. 689 00:40:41,900 --> 00:40:45,100 I'm just explaining the truth, it's the same as Osama Bin 690 00:40:45,100 --> 00:40:48,000 Laden. Like, here's a guy who's, you 691 00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:52,400 know, a war, criminal, a mass murderer of civilians, there's 692 00:40:52,500 --> 00:40:55,100 no way in the world. No reason in the world to take 693 00:40:55,100 --> 00:40:59,200 his side or to think that if someone was explaining his 694 00:40:59,200 --> 00:41:03,800 motive and strategy that they're taking his side, they may be. 695 00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,300 You're just trying to get you to understand the enemies 696 00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:10,700 motivation and strategy and it's just true and clear. 697 00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:14,200 In this case that the Americans helped to provoke this fight, 698 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:18,100 and I do encourage people to go to WikiLeaks or just type into 699 00:41:18,100 --> 00:41:22,000 your Google search engine, yet means and yet, and it was 700 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,700 written by our current CIA director, William Burns back 701 00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:28,900 when he was the ambassador to Russia under Condoleezza Rice 702 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,900 and George w--. Bush. 703 00:41:31,700 --> 00:41:34,200 When you see, what's the Secretary of State and in 704 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:39,100 February of 2008, he wrote yet means, nyet, Russia's NATO 705 00:41:39,100 --> 00:41:42,900 expansion, red lines. And it's about, first of all, a 706 00:41:42,900 --> 00:41:45,600 conversation that he had with Sergei lavrov, the foreign 707 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:49,400 minister who's making it absolutely clear that man, don't 708 00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:54,600 you guys pursue NATO membership for Ukraine or Georgia? 709 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,300 It's just going to cause such a problem you could cause a civil 710 00:41:57,300 --> 00:41:59,500 war in Ukraine. And then we would probably have 711 00:41:59,500 --> 00:42:02,600 to choose whether to intervene In that Civil War, which is a 712 00:42:02,607 --> 00:42:04,300 decision. We don't want to have to make 713 00:42:04,300 --> 00:42:06,300 man. So just let's not go down this 714 00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,100 road, but then he's also reporting that this is the view 715 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:12,500 of everyone in Moscow, with a government job. 716 00:42:12,900 --> 00:42:16,900 This is absolutely the consensus that you just can't do this. 717 00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:19,900 This is their red line and you might say they're completely 718 00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:21,800 paranoid. We've never attacked them in a 719 00:42:21,808 --> 00:42:24,000 million years. Yeah, well they're paranoid, 720 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:27,000 that's who you're dealing with and you're really trying their 721 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,500 patients here and they've made it. 722 00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:31,200 Absolutely clear over and over and over again. 723 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,800 This is too far. Don't do it. 724 00:42:34,100 --> 00:42:38,400 Now I kind of skipped something. I'm sorry cuz I take too long to 725 00:42:38,408 --> 00:42:41,100 tell the story but see Trump came in and they falsely accused 726 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:45,000 him of treason key and said that he was a sock puppet of Vladimir 727 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,100 Putin. Well that was never true. 728 00:42:47,100 --> 00:42:50,000 Not one word of it. Anyone who thinks one word of 729 00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:53,700 any of those 900 separate accusations that were part of 730 00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:54,700 Russia Gator. True. 731 00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,200 You just wrong. Go back and check every single 732 00:42:58,500 --> 00:43:01,200 syllable of that crazy conspiracy theory. 733 00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:04,900 He was has been soundly debunked. 734 00:43:04,900 --> 00:43:07,700 It was simply a lie cooked up by the Democrats, the FBI 735 00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:12,800 counterintelligence Division and the CIA to try to thwart Donald 736 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,900 Trump. But now so then what happened, 737 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,000 his son? I believe it was Eric. 738 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,000 It might have been junior. Said it perfectly said, oh, 739 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,300 well, now that we're dumping all these arms into Ukraine. 740 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:27,200 Let's see him call us Pro Russian Traders now, because 741 00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,800 this is just kind of this two-dimensional thinking, right? 742 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,600 If he really was playing three or Dimensional chess like his 743 00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:34,200 fans. Always said he might have 744 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:38,300 invited Putin, straight to d.c., take him out to the Opera, feed 745 00:43:38,300 --> 00:43:41,400 him a McDonald's. You know, Big Mac and sign a 746 00:43:41,408 --> 00:43:45,500 brand new gigantic, nuclear arms reduction treaty with him and 747 00:43:45,500 --> 00:43:49,500 maybe like a new status for special autonomy for the donbas 748 00:43:49,500 --> 00:43:52,800 or something and stick it right down their throats. 749 00:43:52,900 --> 00:43:55,200 Let The Washington Post, call it treason, all they want, but he's 750 00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:58,400 signing a new awesome nuclear arms, reduction deal, something 751 00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:04,300 like that, but his take of We'll give in to the establishment and 752 00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:08,400 become Russia Hawks and that will acquit us that never work, 753 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:12,400 that's just being played right so but that was what they did. 754 00:44:12,900 --> 00:44:16,500 We're Barack Obama was afraid to poor arms into the coup. 755 00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:20,500 D'etat Junta that he had helped install, which did have at least 756 00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:23,900 nine and I think my count my current count, the book is 12, 757 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,100 Hitler, loved and Nazis in major positions of power in the new 758 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:31,600 government as soon as they took it over, he flinched John 759 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,100 Conyers had an amendment in the Congress has said no funding to 760 00:44:35,100 --> 00:44:37,900 go to train Nazis and they put that in the ndaa. 761 00:44:37,900 --> 00:44:40,700 And then they had to take it out Keith because that's who our 762 00:44:40,700 --> 00:44:43,300 Rangers are training over there. A bunch of Hitler, loved and 763 00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:45,700 Nazis. Obama was afraid of this and 764 00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:47,900 said, well, we'll train them and we'll give them trucks and 765 00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:52,000 things but we won't harm them. Donald Trump comes in and arms 766 00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:55,900 now and I have a whole collection of documents like 767 00:44:55,900 --> 00:44:57,600 this and people can search themselves. 768 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,100 Here's your magical key word for arms to Ukraine that ever needs 769 00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:03,700 to I add to your search in all your different favorite branded 770 00:45:03,700 --> 00:45:07,700 search engines calibrate calibrated. 771 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,000 We're, although the number of weapons. 772 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,000 The amount of weapons, the form of weapons that were sending in 773 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:17,500 is being carefully calibrated Keith, to make sure to deter the 774 00:45:17,500 --> 00:45:21,300 Russians without provoking them, right? 775 00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:23,200 And they say that over and over again. 776 00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:27,000 But then you can read at Yahoo news and if this guy's got some 777 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:29,400 really good Scoop series absolutely worth reading, his 778 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,300 name is Zach Dorfman. And he has a piece at Yahoo 779 00:45:33,300 --> 00:45:35,700 news. We're just as you or I might 780 00:45:35,700 --> 00:45:39,100 say, you know, obviously being a Critic here, he's quoting a 781 00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:47,300 whole handful at least of CIA officials saying well, The 782 00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:52,800 policy was that we want to pour in enough arms to deter Russia 783 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:56,400 without pouring in so many that we provoke them. 784 00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,800 And that's what our politicians decided and that's what they 785 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:05,100 told us to do. But we that's them speaking. 786 00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:10,300 The CIA to Yahoo news. We knew that actually doesn't 787 00:46:10,300 --> 00:46:13,400 work that way. It's the exact opposite, we're 788 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,900 sending in enough arms to provoke them without sending in 789 00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:21,300 enough arms to deter them. And so we're going to end up 790 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:24,000 getting a war. And now this article is there 791 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:28,900 told you so CIA claiming at least that they were trying to 792 00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:31,600 get the civilians in the government to understand, you're 793 00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,900 going to provoke a conflict instead of stopping one, but 794 00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:36,500 they wouldn't listen to us, right? 795 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,800 You also can search from last December. 796 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:45,500 And from January that be December 21 in January, 22. 797 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,500 All these reports of them talking about how? 798 00:46:48,500 --> 00:46:51,300 Yeah, you know what, let them invade you reading the Wall 799 00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:54,000 Street Journal reading. The Washington Post is all over 800 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:57,600 the place in the In the hill you know, be great. 801 00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,800 Let's get them to invade. Will bog them down. 802 00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:04,700 It'll be just like Afghanistan in the 1980s. 803 00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:07,800 Remember Rambo 3. We had such a good job. 804 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:12,800 Did such a good job backing who the Posh tune mujahideen to Take 805 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,900 on the Soviet Union to bleed them to bankruptcy and force 806 00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:18,400 their destruction and then we never had another problem with 807 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,700 Afghanistan ever since that time right? 808 00:47:20,700 --> 00:47:23,600 Only. They're saying this for months 809 00:47:24,300 --> 00:47:25,500 after America. Finally. 810 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:29,900 He left in humiliating defeat and withdrawal from being 811 00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:33,600 defeated by the Taliban who would Bill Clinton had supported 812 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:38,600 to replace the mujahideen that Corridor Reagan and Bush had 813 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,200 supported to fight against the Soviets. 814 00:47:41,500 --> 00:47:45,800 And so just four months after we're finally done paying the 815 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,700 costs of our 1980s intervention in Afghanistan. 816 00:47:49,900 --> 00:47:52,900 They've got Afghanistan and their mouths as the model and 817 00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:55,500 they say it's in the New York Times, you know? 818 00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:59,300 We've learned the lesson. We don't know anything about how 819 00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:02,700 to fight an Insurgency boy. Is that not what they said 820 00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:06,200 before? Anyway, we don't know the first 821 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,100 thing about how to fight an Insurgency, but we sure know how 822 00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:13,100 to back one, like we did in Afghanistan and like we did in 823 00:48:13,100 --> 00:48:18,200 Syria now they got, they just left Afghanistan and humiliating 824 00:48:18,200 --> 00:48:22,000 defeat for months before they got Afghanistan in their mouth. 825 00:48:22,100 --> 00:48:25,300 Well, there's still got troops in Syria, in the name of 826 00:48:25,300 --> 00:48:27,600 fighting. In the Islamic State where 827 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:33,300 Obama's dirty war on behalf of al-Qaeda, from 2011, through 13 828 00:48:33,300 --> 00:48:36,800 and 14, led to the is to the rise of the Islamic State 829 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:41,000 caliphate that, then he had to launch a rock War 3 and kill 830 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:49,100 another half a million people to destroy and just within like, 831 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,200 you know, anyone never mind the 1980s, right? 832 00:48:53,900 --> 00:48:59,100 This happened, all in the Teens in the Obama years and they're 833 00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:02,900 citing Syria as the model for what they want to do. 834 00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:07,000 So they're saying, you know what will threaten Russia you better 835 00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,600 not invade but we won't do anything to negotiate in. 836 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,300 Good faith to keep them in from invading. 837 00:49:12,300 --> 00:49:15,600 Because now we think we got this clever plan that we're going to 838 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,800 do in Ukraine. What we did in Afghanistan 839 00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,700 ballgame down, bleed them to bankruptcy except that. 840 00:49:21,700 --> 00:49:25,400 Look at the map, you got an entire Kazakhstan. 841 00:49:25,600 --> 00:49:29,300 Uzbekistan between Russia and Afghanistan. 842 00:49:30,400 --> 00:49:32,100 Right? When we fought a proxy war with 843 00:49:32,100 --> 00:49:37,100 Russia, in Vietnam, we had an entire China between them This 844 00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:40,700 is right on Russia's border. This is the second most 845 00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:43,400 important country to Russia after Belarus. 846 00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,300 Right. It'd be like saying, oh yeah, 847 00:49:46,300 --> 00:49:48,900 no, the Russians were just messing around in Mexico, not 848 00:49:48,900 --> 00:49:51,700 Canada where the Americans would really care about that. 849 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,000 But you know what, we care about Mexico a hell of a lot to and 850 00:49:55,000 --> 00:49:57,900 whether we have a friendly regime there or not one, hey no, 851 00:49:57,900 --> 00:50:02,200 it's plenty to eat by the way, as long as I'm rambling, I had 852 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,000 brought up the issue before that in the Civil War. 853 00:50:05,500 --> 00:50:12,200 When the, when the British and French were thinking about 854 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,200 intervening on the side of the Confederacy. 855 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:17,900 The Russians, the, the American government Abraham Lincoln did 856 00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:20,900 exactly what Bashar al-assad did, which was called the 857 00:50:20,900 --> 00:50:25,100 Russians, and the Russians came and brought their ships into San 858 00:50:25,100 --> 00:50:30,000 Francisco Bay and into New York, Harbor, to let the British and 859 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,300 the French know that if they got, if they took the South Side 860 00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:35,600 that they were going to have to mess with the Russians to 861 00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,400 fighting on the North side and that they would, in fact protect 862 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,700 those Harbors from attack in that kind of thing. 863 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:46,400 And that's, you know, essentially Lee do to America 864 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,300 in, in the most desperate circumstances, still sticking to 865 00:50:49,308 --> 00:50:53,200 that Monroe Doctrine, that we better not have any intervention 866 00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:57,100 by European powers over on the American side, I guess, it's 867 00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,100 unless it's on the union side, then it's okay. 868 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:08,500 But and then you use the example of Woodrow Wilson and the 869 00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:11,800 Mexicans. Oh wait. 870 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,600 No it wasn't, it was Wilson. It was John I'm sorry Johnson. 871 00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:18,600 After the Civil War telling the French, they better get the hell 872 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:21,600 out of Mexico. When that was when Maximilian 873 00:51:21,600 --> 00:51:26,100 was the dictator of the kind of French back dictator of Mexico 874 00:51:26,100 --> 00:51:28,400 there for a little while you know, like Six Flags to Texas 875 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,100 and clues like what Mexico is ruled by France. 876 00:51:31,100 --> 00:51:32,600 I do remember that. Yeah, it's just a little while, 877 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,800 but the Americans said they like, as soon as the Civil War 878 00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:39,800 was over, they lined up Union forces on the Mexican border and 879 00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:41,100 so we're going to invade and kill you. 880 00:51:41,100 --> 00:51:43,400 All if you don't get the hell out right now and the French 881 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,400 packed up and left, Left without a fight. 882 00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:47,400 And so that's the American Doctrine. 883 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,900 The Monroe Doctrine is European powers better, stay the hell out 884 00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:53,800 of the Americas. And if you actually read James 885 00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:57,400 Monroe's, speech, he promises America will stay out of 886 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:03,500 European Affairs in response as you know, as to return the 887 00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:06,500 policy to the other side. And we always ignore that part 888 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:10,600 of the doctrine, but we can see exactly how America would 889 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,000 behave. If a European power was behaving 890 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:15,200 in the Americans, The Way We Were Having an Eastern Europe 891 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,000 right now or if Russia ever tried to put missiles in Cuba, 892 00:52:19,100 --> 00:52:22,200 I'm not sure they're done that, that they would stand by at all. 893 00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:24,900 I want to get into you mentioned Afghanistan. 894 00:52:24,900 --> 00:52:26,500 You wrote this book Fool's errand. 895 00:52:26,500 --> 00:52:28,900 Time to end the war in Afghanistan. 896 00:52:29,100 --> 00:52:33,500 September 11th. 3,000 American civilians are killed by Muslim 897 00:52:33,500 --> 00:52:35,800 extremists. What should have been done? 898 00:52:35,900 --> 00:52:37,600 And what caused that in the first place? 899 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:39,800 Well, what caused it in the first place? 900 00:52:39,800 --> 00:52:42,400 People need to understand, we mention the war in Afghanistan. 901 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,200 There was the Pashto The mujahideen of Afghanistan that 902 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,200 Carter and then Reagan back against the Soviet Union there 903 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,600 and Bush senior to, there was also what's called the Arab 904 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:57,500 Afghan Army that was recruited by Saudi intelligence in the CIA 905 00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:01,800 from all across the middle east of mujahideen to go and fight on 906 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,300 the side of the Afghans against the Soviets. 907 00:53:04,500 --> 00:53:07,900 And that included, Osama Bin Laden, Ayman, al-zawahiri, 908 00:53:08,100 --> 00:53:11,400 Abdullah azzam, and all of these men who their groups ended up, 909 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:15,400 including the blind Sheikh, Omar Abdel Rahman And their groups 910 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,800 ended up becoming the core of al-qaida and its really. 911 00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:25,600 The azzam group was mostly Saudis that Bin Laden inherited 912 00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:31,700 and then Egyptian Islamic Jihad which was run by the surgeon 913 00:53:31,700 --> 00:53:35,700 Ayman al-zawahiri and essentially what happened was 914 00:53:35,900 --> 00:53:38,900 they decided for a few different reasons to attack the United 915 00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:42,300 States. One of the reasons was because 916 00:53:42,300 --> 00:53:44,100 they were all from so many different countries. 917 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,100 And had so many different agendas attacking the Americas. 918 00:53:47,100 --> 00:53:49,800 There was one thing they could agree on like well why should we 919 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,800 attack the King of Jordan when I want to attack the president of 920 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,000 Egypt? Well like okay both y'all shut 921 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:55,800 up. We'll just attacked the 922 00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,600 Americans that kind of thing. So like problem solving in time 923 00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:04,200 inside their group, right? But also They were astute enough 924 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:06,300 to see. They can never have a revolution 925 00:54:06,300 --> 00:54:10,000 in their own countries in Egypt, or Jordan, or in Saudi Arabia as 926 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,100 long as they were backed by the American Empire. 927 00:54:13,800 --> 00:54:17,500 And so they said we should fight the far enemy first and then the 928 00:54:17,500 --> 00:54:22,300 clothes enemy second. And so the idea was to provoke 929 00:54:22,300 --> 00:54:25,500 the United States into invading Afghanistan. 930 00:54:25,700 --> 00:54:28,700 Then they could replicate the war that we had help them fight 931 00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:31,700 against the Soviet Union against the United States. 932 00:54:32,100 --> 00:54:37,400 And Lester bankruptcy and force our Empire out of their region 933 00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,000 the long way in the hard way so that we don't come back and then 934 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:46,900 the idea is very cynical idea obviously is and if another 935 00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:51,100 million people are killed like in the Soviet war in Afghanistan 936 00:54:51,100 --> 00:54:55,200 in the 1980s and no well let all I'll sort them out. 937 00:54:55,300 --> 00:54:57,700 As long as they're good, Muslims will go to paradise and so who 938 00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:59,700 cares? If the Americans come and carpet 939 00:54:59,700 --> 00:55:02,400 bomb Afghanistan off the face of the Earth as long as the event? 940 00:55:02,500 --> 00:55:05,700 Ali cost the American so much money that they go bankrupt and 941 00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:10,200 go home. Now, as we all know, the real 942 00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,800 implementation of Bin Laden's plan against the United States 943 00:55:13,808 --> 00:55:18,000 really took place mostly in Iraq rather than in Afghanistan. 944 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:23,200 Although, it happened in Afghanistan to and to say that 945 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,400 I'm not saying that George Bush was an innocent victim or like a 946 00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,100 doe-eyed naive. Well-meaning chap, who just got 947 00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:33,200 played by Bin Laden. In fact, what happened was Ben 948 00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:38,500 Laden's, plan centered around the idea that the Americans are 949 00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:43,800 corrupt, lying cynical imperialists that if he gives 950 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:49,200 them a crisis to exploit that they will cynically exploit, It 951 00:55:49,500 --> 00:55:53,400 ultimately to their own detriment and he was right about 952 00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:55,700 that. So yes, it's true that bush is a 953 00:55:55,700 --> 00:56:00,100 fool but he's a fool because he's a bad person because he was 954 00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:03,200 trying to get away with even All things. 955 00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,800 And that's the same with the rest of his administration. 956 00:56:06,500 --> 00:56:09,600 When they decided what they wanted to do in Afghanistan, 957 00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:13,100 almost from the very beginning, over the objections of the CIA, 958 00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:15,500 over the objections at that time, I'll give her credit of 959 00:56:15,500 --> 00:56:18,100 the National Security advisor. Condoleezza Rice. 960 00:56:18,600 --> 00:56:24,600 They wanted to bomb the Taliban Keith instead of al-Qaeda, they 961 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:28,500 weren't hunting a couple of hundred Arabs who are friends 962 00:56:28,500 --> 00:56:31,000 with Bin Laden. They were going after the 963 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:35,700 Taliban even The CIA, and the National Security adviser was 964 00:56:35,700 --> 00:56:39,300 saying what we should be doing is we should be bombing only 965 00:56:39,300 --> 00:56:41,000 Arabs where we can find them on the ground. 966 00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,800 We have solid intelligence, we can put a laser designator on 967 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:45,600 him. We're going to bomb Bin Laden's 968 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,900 Arab militias on the ground within the line of sight of 969 00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:52,200 Taliban groups. And then we need to tell the 970 00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:54,500 Taliban. You see how good we are at 971 00:56:54,500 --> 00:56:59,800 dropping explosives on people play ball with us because the 972 00:56:59,808 --> 00:57:03,400 al-Qaeda guys were not Afghans. They were Were Arabs, they were 973 00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,700 Saudis and Egyptians and syrians and I guess chechens aren't 974 00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:09,400 Arabs but they're sure as hell, not Afghans either. 975 00:57:09,600 --> 00:57:12,900 So these were foreigners and the Taliban were willing to betray 976 00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:14,000 them. They've been trying to get rid 977 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,600 of them all along. It's in Gary bernsen's book, for 978 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,000 example, a CIA officer on the scene that he got on the radio 979 00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,900 with the Taliban and they said, we surrender we surrender and he 980 00:57:23,900 --> 00:57:26,200 said, oh yeah, what do you have any Arabs with you? 981 00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:28,900 And they said, yeah, we do, we've got 20. 982 00:57:29,100 --> 00:57:33,200 And he said, oh yeah, kill him. And they said, okay, hang on 983 00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,300 just one second, and then he can hear in the background rat. 984 00:57:36,300 --> 00:57:40,100 Tat, tat, tat tat, okay. All the Arabs are dead now, we 985 00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:43,800 surrender, and he says, okay surrender accepted, right? 986 00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:47,600 So in other words, CIA on the ground is saying that, yes, this 987 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:51,000 can happen that we can Target the Arabs and not the Taliban 988 00:57:51,100 --> 00:57:55,200 and we can even get the Taliban to kill the Arabs for us if we 989 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,200 give them an out. But Donald Rumsfeld and George 990 00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:02,000 Bush and Dick Cheney. They overruled all this. 991 00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,200 They said no we want to fight down in Kandahar and up in 992 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:08,900 mazar-e-sharif. We want to fight where the 993 00:58:08,900 --> 00:58:13,300 Northern Alliance is that war against the Taliban who did not 994 00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:17,200 attack us and then as his so. Well documented, especially by 995 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:19,200 berntson who I mentioned Gary berntson. 996 00:58:19,400 --> 00:58:23,800 And also by a guy named Thomas Greer who that's his real name. 997 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:27,800 But his book is under the name, Dalton Fury 3 and he was the 998 00:58:27,800 --> 00:58:32,200 Delta Force Lieutenant Colonel. I believe it was in charge of 999 00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:37,500 the mission there and he and Bernsen both say, it's just this 1000 00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:43,300 feeling question that they were deliberately deprived by Bush 1001 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:47,700 and Cheney of the reinforcements that they needed to one target 1002 00:58:47,700 --> 00:58:51,600 Bin Laden and to, especially to seal the border with Pakistan 1003 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:53,500 there right there. Jason to the border with 1004 00:58:53,500 --> 00:58:56,300 Pakistan, and the Eastern nangarhar Province there. 1005 00:58:56,700 --> 00:59:00,100 At the place that they knew all along was Ben Laden's, Hideout. 1006 00:59:00,100 --> 00:59:03,300 He'd been interviewed by CNN and ABC News in the independent 1007 00:59:03,300 --> 00:59:05,600 there. The silk a lion's den in Tora 1008 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:10,300 Bora and so they had four thousand marks Marines, down 1009 00:59:10,300 --> 00:59:12,700 there in Kandahar. They had the 75th Rangers, which 1010 00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:16,300 is top tier Special Operations forces than the Green Berets. 1011 00:59:16,500 --> 00:59:19,900 A second-tier special operations forces fighting up in the north 1012 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:24,000 than thousands of Army Rangers. I forget, which Battalion 1013 00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,400 they're already occupying, the Bagram Air Base. 1014 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:29,900 And he had the CIA and the Delta Force Commander begging for 1015 00:59:29,900 --> 00:59:33,900 reinforcements, which they were denied over and over again. 1016 00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:36,900 And we know now that also that the airstrikes it Tora Bora were 1017 00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:41,000 halted only eight days into the attack at Tora, Bora on December 1018 00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:45,300 the 8th. When Bin Laden is virtually 1019 00:59:45,300 --> 00:59:48,800 certain only known to have not gotten away until December the 1020 00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:51,600 17th. Nine days later. 1021 00:59:52,100 --> 00:59:56,400 So, and and it's clear from people. 1022 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,700 Well, it's all in the book Fool's errand. 1023 00:59:57,700 --> 01:00:01,300 But if you look at Bob Woodward's book Bush that war, 1024 01:00:01,300 --> 01:00:06,100 what happened was Bush again? This fool said, hey, you know, 1025 01:00:06,100 --> 01:00:07,600 we should do. We should just give all of the 1026 01:00:07,607 --> 01:00:10,900 National Security Council notes to Bob, Woodward, we like Bob, 1027 01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:14,100 he'll do a good job. And so here Bob, Woodward got 1028 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:17,700 these highly classified minutes of the National Security Council 1029 01:00:17,700 --> 01:00:20,400 meetings where they are openly discussing. 1030 01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:23,200 Maybe we should start bombing Iraq now. 1031 01:00:23,400 --> 01:00:26,600 So the American people don't get the idea that this war on 1032 01:00:26,600 --> 01:00:30,200 terrorism, could possibly be over in any reasonable period of 1033 01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,300 time. We need them to understand this 1034 01:00:32,300 --> 01:00:36,300 war is going to take place over a long period of time in a broad 1035 01:00:36,300 --> 01:00:39,800 period of space in all of these different countries and all this 1036 01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,800 different agenda that we are going to launch now. 1037 01:00:43,100 --> 01:00:48,600 And and Rumsfeld is adamant that if we get Bin Laden, that is not 1038 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,200 Victory. And if we fail fail to get Bin 1039 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:53,200 Laden. That is not two feet. 1040 01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:55,600 We still have a lot more fighting to do. 1041 01:00:55,700 --> 01:00:59,100 I think maybe we need to start bombing Baghdad right now and 1042 01:00:59,100 --> 01:01:01,600 all these things, this is from the very beginning, they know 1043 01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:04,900 that they are going to take this just as Bin Laden hoped they 1044 01:01:04,900 --> 01:01:07,500 were going to take this attack and exploit it. 1045 01:01:07,800 --> 01:01:10,300 But unlike what Bin Laden thought that they would just 1046 01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:12,600 launched this massive undertaking and Afghanistan. 1047 01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:15,700 They tried to go more or less light and fast in Afghanistan. 1048 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,200 They later. Outsourced it to Nato. 1049 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,800 And then, of course, Obama tripled the thing with his It 1050 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:26,500 surged in beginning in 2009 but at least at that time they were 1051 01:01:26,500 --> 01:01:28,600 in a hurry to move on to it Rock. 1052 01:01:28,700 --> 01:01:31,500 And that's where, you know, Michael sure the former Chief of 1053 01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:35,100 the bin Laden unit said, well this is the hoped-for but 1054 01:01:35,100 --> 01:01:39,600 unexpected gift to Bin Laden. That not only you going to break 1055 01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,700 our military on the rocks, in our treasury on the rocks in 1056 01:01:43,700 --> 01:01:45,800 Afghanistan. But now you're going to 1057 01:01:45,800 --> 01:01:50,300 overthrow the Socialist Infidel, Saddam Hussein, who rules? 1058 01:01:50,500 --> 01:01:57,500 It's 2,000 miles to the west of nangarhar Province on in 1059 01:01:57,500 --> 01:02:01,600 Mesopotamia, just adjacent to the Lavon and the Mediterranean 1060 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:04,200 Sea. And we're now moving the 1061 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,700 battlefield right into Arab land, right where? 1062 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:12,000 And in fact you couldn't have planned this better from Bin 1063 01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:15,500 Laden's point of view because the and I guess you can ask me. 1064 01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:20,100 This question is s of Y but America in that war. 1065 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:24,600 The side of the Shiite. Super majority against the 1066 01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:30,000 formerly ruling party, Sunni minority tribal communities, 1067 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,600 which just pushed them directly into the arms of the bin Laden 1068 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,600 nights. And what we call Al Qaeda in 1069 01:02:36,600 --> 01:02:41,000 Iraq and some of the absolutely you know, most heinous war 1070 01:02:41,000 --> 01:02:44,200 criminals on the side of the Sunni Insurgency who 1071 01:02:44,200 --> 01:02:47,600 deliberately targeted Shiite civilians as well as American 1072 01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,300 troops and Iraqi troops with suicide. 1073 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,600 Tax and beheadings and all kinds of atrocities, you know, as a 1074 01:02:55,607 --> 01:02:59,600 result of all of that. And so they took what had been 1075 01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:04,400 quite literally 400 men Bin Laden and his 400 loser, 1076 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:08,000 criminal Bandit friends hiding out in no man's land on the 1077 01:03:08,000 --> 01:03:10,400 border between Afghanistan and Pakistan and the middle of 1078 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:13,300 nowhere. Exiled from the rest of 1079 01:03:13,300 --> 01:03:18,700 humanity, guests of a bunch of cavemen, you know, with almost 1080 01:03:18,700 --> 01:03:20,400 no ability to do anything to anyone. 1081 01:03:20,500 --> 01:03:23,400 And, and George W. Bush turned, all of Western Iraq 1082 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:26,800 into Jihadi University, recruited, tens of thousands of 1083 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:28,900 people. It made the Afghan War and the 1084 01:03:29,100 --> 01:03:32,000 Arab Afghan Army that traveled to Afghanistan to fight under. 1085 01:03:32,000 --> 01:03:35,000 Ronald Reagan and Bin Laden's forces in the 80s look like 1086 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:38,300 nothing, compared to the thousands and thousands tens of 1087 01:03:38,300 --> 01:03:42,400 thousands, probably who traveled from Saudi, from Syria, from 1088 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,700 Libya, and all around the Middle, East to go and fight 1089 01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:48,200 with the al-Qaeda forces. As part of the Sunni based 1090 01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:52,100 Insurgency in Iraq, now, Now in this book Fool's errand, time to 1091 01:03:52,107 --> 01:03:55,600 end the war in Afghanistan. You actually mention that the 1092 01:03:55,600 --> 01:04:00,400 Bush Administration was offered Bin Laden by the Taliban. 1093 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:01,700 How do you know that that happened? 1094 01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:04,100 What's the evidence for that? Well, I got all the footnotes in 1095 01:04:04,107 --> 01:04:06,400 the book from the various papers, especially the British 1096 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:09,700 papers, who covered it very carefully at the time that the 1097 01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:13,800 original Taliban offer after September 11th, they've been 1098 01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:17,400 negotiating for very long time over this but their original 1099 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:22,200 offer was give us some proof that he This and we will 1100 01:04:22,600 --> 01:04:26,200 extradite been like I guess 11. They said, well, we'll try them 1101 01:04:26,200 --> 01:04:29,500 ourselves and the Americas like no, he's going to get rid of him 1102 01:04:29,600 --> 01:04:29,800 it. Go. 1103 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,800 Okay. Well look, we'll send him to any 1104 01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:37,700 Muslim country for trial. That's, you know, I'm virtually 1105 01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:39,900 certain every single Muslim countries a member of What's 1106 01:04:39,900 --> 01:04:42,800 called the organization of Islamic conference which was 1107 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,600 created by the Americans and the Saudis in the first place. 1108 01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:48,000 And it's essentially every Muslim state is a member of 1109 01:04:48,008 --> 01:04:49,800 that. And so, but this means we're 1110 01:04:49,800 --> 01:04:52,500 talking to Total sock puppet, dictatorships of the United 1111 01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:56,400 States, like Jordan like Egypt or, you know, friendly countries 1112 01:04:56,400 --> 01:05:00,900 like Malaysia or Indonesia, who be absolutely happy extradition 1113 01:05:01,100 --> 01:05:05,600 would mean the plane lands on the runway of papers signed and 1114 01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:09,500 then it takes off again to land in Virginia and good luck pal, 1115 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:12,200 right? That could have been done but 1116 01:05:12,207 --> 01:05:14,600 they said we need to see some evidence of that and we'll send 1117 01:05:14,600 --> 01:05:17,600 them to any Muslim country and the American said, nope, 1118 01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:20,300 actually Colin Powell said yes, we're working on it. 1119 01:05:20,500 --> 01:05:22,800 See a we're going to prove it and it was Ben London, his men 1120 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,100 who did it. And Powell said we're working on 1121 01:05:25,100 --> 01:05:26,700 a dossier. We're going to prove it and then 1122 01:05:26,700 --> 01:05:27,900 they never did come up with that. 1123 01:05:28,700 --> 01:05:31,800 And the second Taliban offer was listen, give us some proof, give 1124 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:34,400 us you know an indictment you know, not a conviction would 1125 01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,100 give us a reason to believe that this happened that we can stand 1126 01:05:38,100 --> 01:05:40,400 on. You know, there's a very strict 1127 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,900 honor code in Afghanistan, which like in Japan or something, 1128 01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:47,300 where it's beyond reasonable in the old postion, Wally Honor 1129 01:05:47,300 --> 01:05:49,800 Code that says you give a man your own daughter before you 1130 01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,900 give up. Our guests to an enemy outside 1131 01:05:52,900 --> 01:05:55,700 and this kind of thing. So look you want us to betray 1132 01:05:55,700 --> 01:06:00,300 these people who we are hosting. Give us a good damn reason to do 1133 01:06:00,300 --> 01:06:03,500 it and the American attitude as George w-- Bush. 1134 01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:08,300 So eloquently, put it was no negotiations I said hand him 1135 01:06:08,300 --> 01:06:11,700 over. So then on October the 8th once 1136 01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:16,100 the bombs started falling that day, the Taliban, oh no, I'm 1137 01:06:16,100 --> 01:06:18,400 sorry, oh I said Pakistan they turn them down. 1138 01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:20,700 Then on the day the bombs started falling they said you 1139 01:06:20,707 --> 01:06:27,100 know what forget proving the case we're now ready to turn him 1140 01:06:27,100 --> 01:06:33,900 over and not just him but Al Qaeda will turn him over to any 1141 01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:36,500 Third Country other than the United States and I guess, 1142 01:06:36,500 --> 01:06:39,900 presumably Israel. Well, then move to any Third 1143 01:06:39,900 --> 01:06:42,100 Country. So now we're talking Britain 1144 01:06:42,100 --> 01:06:45,800 France. Mexico are best friends in the 1145 01:06:45,800 --> 01:06:50,200 world if we want Japan. Again, people who would 1146 01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:54,000 extradite him and his men to the United States for persecution 1147 01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,000 and prosecution without a blink of an eye, right? 1148 01:06:58,100 --> 01:07:00,000 And pushed it too. Little too late. 1149 01:07:00,700 --> 01:07:02,100 And that's because they wanted their war. 1150 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:05,100 And then again, what do they do? They refuse to go after he said, 1151 01:07:05,100 --> 01:07:08,500 Wanted Dead or Alive and I quote, in the book in both 1152 01:07:08,500 --> 01:07:11,500 books, I republish the entire block quote because I don't want 1153 01:07:11,500 --> 01:07:13,800 anyone to think that I take it out of context in any way 1154 01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,100 whatsoever. It's just six months after 1155 01:07:17,100 --> 01:07:18,900 September 11th, still a year before. 1156 01:07:19,000 --> 01:07:24,100 For the invasion of Iraq, the beginning of March of 2002 And 1157 01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:27,700 the reporter lady asked Bush. You don't ever talk about Bin 1158 01:07:27,700 --> 01:07:30,500 Laden anymore. All you ever do is talk about 1159 01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:33,700 Saddam Hussein and Bush. You know, he's sort of been 1160 01:07:33,700 --> 01:07:37,200 practicing this with his men, but he's still just George w-- 1161 01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:38,900 Bush. And so, this is the best he can 1162 01:07:38,900 --> 01:07:44,600 do is like essentially insult her and chastise her for being. 1163 01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:48,000 So ignorant that she thinks that this is just about one man. 1164 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:51,800 Even though Yeah, he's guilty. And it doesn't matter whether 1165 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,800 he's still in command of a giant Legion or as Bush put it, he's 1166 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:57,700 on the run. So long as he's on the run. 1167 01:07:57,700 --> 01:08:01,200 I don't care who but what about? We just want to nail him to a 1168 01:08:01,207 --> 01:08:04,400 tree and watch him. Die of starvation anyway because 1169 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,500 of what he did. What about that? 1170 01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,300 All you care about is that he's on the Run. 1171 01:08:10,300 --> 01:08:14,400 Well I want him locked in prison, in solitary confinement, 1172 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:16,000 you know, next to the pot smoker. 1173 01:08:17,000 --> 01:08:21,100 I have, what are we doing? And then and then he just, you 1174 01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:23,800 know, it's the clumsiest damn thing because it can only be the 1175 01:08:23,800 --> 01:08:27,000 clumsiest damn thing coming out of his mouth as he's trying 1176 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,500 desperately to change the subject. 1177 01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:33,100 And to say, you know what, lady you just don't understand the 1178 01:08:33,100 --> 01:08:38,200 Nuance of the complex discussion about how this war on terror is 1179 01:08:38,399 --> 01:08:40,800 far bigger than just been lot. And what is he doing? 1180 01:08:41,000 --> 01:08:43,200 He's changing the subject from the guy with the beard and the 1181 01:08:43,207 --> 01:08:46,000 road to the guy with the mustache in the beret. 1182 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:53,100 The guy who didn't do it at all. And they go, I was strong. 1183 01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:55,100 I mean, they're just doing this. You can't stop it. 1184 01:08:55,100 --> 01:08:57,800 So, I don't know. As the Washington Post said, 1185 01:08:57,800 --> 01:08:59,800 we're going to war. Why worry about is contrary 1186 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,000 stuff and they all just climbed on board for it. 1187 01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:05,600 But at the time, if you didn't want to believe in it, it was 1188 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:07,200 the most absurd thing in the world. 1189 01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,200 And you know what? Keith our good friend Dave 1190 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,800 Smith. This is what made a dove out of 1191 01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:16,100 him is because after September 11th, like this was not far from 1192 01:09:16,100 --> 01:09:18,800 where he grew up, and he was upset. 1193 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,800 And he wanted George Bush to get some revenge for him and for the 1194 01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:26,800 people of his City, and then he saw that clip of Bush saying, 1195 01:09:26,800 --> 01:09:29,200 I'm truly not that concerned about him. 1196 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:34,000 Let me repeat myself. I am truly not that concerned 1197 01:09:34,500 --> 01:09:36,500 and Dave was like, yeah, but what happened to you standing on 1198 01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:40,300 top of the fire truck and saying and the people who did this are 1199 01:09:40,500 --> 01:09:44,700 to hear from all of us soon and you got me all excited. 1200 01:09:44,700 --> 01:09:49,200 And now you're telling me we're going to to rack and you see 1201 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,800 right? Then I smell a rat and you look 1202 01:09:52,800 --> 01:09:59,700 people, you know, in a way to their credit people are good and 1203 01:09:59,700 --> 01:10:01,300 they just couldn't imagine that George w--. 1204 01:10:01,300 --> 01:10:04,200 Bush would lie to them like that the George W bush would take 1205 01:10:04,200 --> 01:10:07,000 them to war against a country, that didn't do it knowing good 1206 01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,500 and well that he was playing off the fact that they were still 1207 01:10:09,500 --> 01:10:13,300 upset about that. That happen and essentially 1208 01:10:13,300 --> 01:10:15,900 knowing that he's baiting and switching them into war. 1209 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,400 There was this one documentary, I think it was called World War 1210 01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,900 4 years ago. I don't know if it's even still 1211 01:10:20,900 --> 01:10:22,800 around anymore. If you could even find it but 1212 01:10:23,300 --> 01:10:26,800 they quote a guy who was a cop and whose son was a firefighter. 1213 01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,300 I think who died in the towers and he talks about how gung-ho 1214 01:10:30,300 --> 01:10:36,400 he was for the thing and how and how happy was for the attack on 1215 01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,800 Iraq and everything else. And then it wasn't I forgot. 1216 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,300 What year was? It may have been 2003. 1217 01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:45,700 Three or four. that in a cabinet meeting, one of the reporters 1218 01:10:45,700 --> 01:10:50,800 said to Bush, How come you keep saying that Saddam was tied to 1219 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:55,000 Al-Qaeda when he really wasn't? And Bush kind of stutter 1220 01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:56,700 something about. Well, I keep saying he was 1221 01:10:56,700 --> 01:10:59,900 because he was, she goes. Yeah, but like what? 1222 01:10:59,900 --> 01:11:03,500 And he can't say anything, but he's clearly caught in a lie. 1223 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,800 And then this cop, whose son died on 9/11, who spent the last 1224 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,400 two or three years being gung-ho pro-war goes. 1225 01:11:12,500 --> 01:11:15,200 Wait, what? Oh, I know what it was because 1226 01:11:15,200 --> 01:11:17,000 he said look I never said he did. 1227 01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:20,300 September 11th. Saddam. 1228 01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:24,500 I just said that he's tied to Al-Qaeda and he could help them, 1229 01:11:24,500 --> 01:11:27,800 do the next September 11th or something like that and the cock 1230 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:29,400 with. Wait what do you mean? 1231 01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,600 You never said he did September 11. 1232 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:35,200 Like I could have swore that you did and the truth is he didn't 1233 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,900 quite, but he sure was happy to make sure that the American 1234 01:11:38,900 --> 01:11:41,900 people believe that Iraq had been involved in the attack. 1235 01:11:41,900 --> 01:11:45,100 He would say things like this. He would say, why do we have to 1236 01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:48,800 attack Iraq? Because of September 11th. 1237 01:11:49,500 --> 01:11:55,200 And a one, and a two, and a three, and a four, and a five, 1238 01:11:55,500 --> 01:11:58,700 and a six. And a because we learned the 1239 01:11:58,700 --> 01:12:01,300 lesson that day that from now on, you have to start all the 1240 01:12:01,300 --> 01:12:04,000 wars against people who might attack you rather than letting 1241 01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,200 them attack you first because the how horrible that was 1242 01:12:06,200 --> 01:12:08,600 remember that. But meanwhile during that whole 1243 01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:13,100 pregnant pause and you know that your it's George W bush who 1244 01:12:13,100 --> 01:12:16,800 doesn't speak English that well. So when he says because of 1245 01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:22,300 September 11th, you kind of rewrite it for him and you take 1246 01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:25,700 that to mean because he did September 11th. 1247 01:12:26,100 --> 01:12:29,200 Why are we attacking Iraq? Because of September 11th. 1248 01:12:29,600 --> 01:12:34,100 Sounds like that's what he means because he did it to us and then 1249 01:12:34,100 --> 01:12:36,800 but you would have to be thoughtful enough to go, well, 1250 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,200 why don't we start carpet bombing him immediately? 1251 01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:41,000 Then why are we asking the Chinese? 1252 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,600 And the French for permission on the UN Security, Council to 1253 01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:45,800 attack, we didn't ask them for permission to attack 1254 01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,900 Afghanistan. Why are we asking them for 1255 01:12:47,900 --> 01:12:49,300 permission? Attack Iraq. 1256 01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:51,300 Because the law says, you have to get a security Council 1257 01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:55,500 resolution to start a war not to defend yourself when you're 1258 01:12:55,500 --> 01:12:58,100 attacked, right? But people weren't able to think 1259 01:12:58,100 --> 01:13:00,300 that through people just took it for granted. 1260 01:13:00,300 --> 01:13:03,800 I quoted all the time. It's so, you know, relevant Tory 1261 01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:10,000 to me, the guy in my cab in late 02 or early 03, rich guy 1262 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:15,200 successful, real-estate guy tall and handsome and lived in the 1263 01:13:15,700 --> 01:13:18,100 like swankiest bachelor pad apartments. 1264 01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:20,900 And Southwest, Austin and was mr. 1265 01:13:20,900 --> 01:13:24,900 Had his ass together. Men of the Town drink at the 1266 01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:29,700 bars of the fanciest hotels. Kind of a guy and he, and all of 1267 01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:32,700 his peers were sure that Saddam did 9/11 and that's why we have 1268 01:13:32,700 --> 01:13:35,300 to invade them. Everyone, he knew in his entire 1269 01:13:35,300 --> 01:13:37,900 social class and Social Circle, everyone. 1270 01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:43,100 He drank with every professional that he knew in his community of 1271 01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:46,700 people knew that we have to do this because Saddam is such a 1272 01:13:46,700 --> 01:13:48,300 terrorist and he did the 9/11 attack. 1273 01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:52,200 Back and what he said to me was, come on cab driver, but here's 1274 01:13:52,200 --> 01:13:55,500 the cab driver debunking. The president, you know, who the 1275 01:13:55,500 --> 01:13:57,800 hell you? Come on cab driver. 1276 01:13:58,100 --> 01:14:02,200 I mean, come on. If a rack didn't do 911, then, 1277 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:03,800 how come we're attacking him then? 1278 01:14:05,600 --> 01:14:09,100 We must have done it or else we wouldn't be doing this. 1279 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:10,000 And I'm going. Yeah. 1280 01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:13,700 But, you know, like Eddie Murphy Coming to America. 1281 01:14:13,900 --> 01:14:18,700 Aha, that's the whole point dude, is that he didn't do it 1282 01:14:18,700 --> 01:14:19,900 and they're baiting and switching. 1283 01:14:19,900 --> 01:14:23,100 They're jerking your chain and they're getting you to support a 1284 01:14:23,100 --> 01:14:26,200 thing based on a false premise. And I said you can find it 1285 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:29,400 Cheney telling that lie but I demand I insist you go in there 1286 01:14:29,400 --> 01:14:32,900 and Google the hell out of it and you will not find W Bush 1287 01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:36,100 saying that. Um did 9/11 and you won't find 1288 01:14:36,100 --> 01:14:38,900 Condoleezza Rice saying that and you won't find George Tenet 1289 01:14:38,900 --> 01:14:41,600 saying that and he won't find Colon Powell saying that you 1290 01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,600 will find Dick Cheney saying that, but he's a damn liar. 1291 01:14:44,600 --> 01:14:48,000 But the fact that the president won't even claim that means that 1292 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:53,100 he wouldn't dare, he's happy to confuse you on the issue, but he 1293 01:14:53,100 --> 01:14:56,900 will not go on the record making that claim because it's so damn 1294 01:14:56,900 --> 01:15:00,300 false and debunk a bowl. And I mean, it really was the 1295 01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:03,400 most cynical damn thing I ever seen in my life, and I watched 1296 01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:05,600 him. The American people into war 1297 01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:09,000 against the Branch Davidian ski. And this was even worse than 1298 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:12,600 that is. Just incredible to see the way 1299 01:15:12,600 --> 01:15:17,600 that they were able to Buffalo people into launching attack 1300 01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,100 against this. Absolutely helpless cripple 1301 01:15:20,100 --> 01:15:23,900 blockaded sanction, third world country that we'd been bombing 1302 01:15:23,900 --> 01:15:28,500 for 12 years straight by the time that September 11th even 1303 01:15:28,500 --> 01:15:32,600 happened, you know, well, I remember Dick Cheney on 1304 01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:34,100 television saying it's been pretty well. 1305 01:15:34,200 --> 01:15:37,800 Well confirmed that Mohamed Atta the commander-in-chief of the 1306 01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:41,700 9/11 operation actually met with Iraqi intelligence and I think 1307 01:15:41,700 --> 01:15:45,800 Portugal or progress somewhere and it's like if they were Vaca 1308 01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,300 he said which again, proves that he's lying. 1309 01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:52,400 There's no such thing as Czechoslovakia in the year 2001. 1310 01:15:53,500 --> 01:15:57,900 So a member, I believe he was the presidential candidate of 1311 01:15:57,900 --> 01:16:00,900 the libertarian party. Harry Brown on September 12th, 1312 01:16:00,900 --> 01:16:05,200 came out and wrote an article talking about the Causes that 1313 01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:08,800 people should not be surprised when a lot of people including 1314 01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:12,300 myself and my family were surprised at the events of 9/11. 1315 01:16:12,500 --> 01:16:16,600 What was the ultimate cause why do the terrorists hate us in 1316 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,400 this case? Yeah, well, I'm sure I went off 1317 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:22,200 on a tangent somewhere in there. I mean, the point was that these 1318 01:16:22,200 --> 01:16:25,100 were the mujahideen that Ronald Reagan and Jimmy Carter, and 1319 01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:30,100 Ronald Reagan and h.w. Bush had nurtured, and then they 1320 01:16:30,100 --> 01:16:32,700 turn against the United States, as I said, because one they're 1321 01:16:32,700 --> 01:16:37,800 trying to consolidate, Their power and their, their movement 1322 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:42,400 and because they thought that the Americans were the primary 1323 01:16:42,400 --> 01:16:46,000 supporters of the dictatorships that they wanted to overthrow in 1324 01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:50,600 revolutions over there. Now, they're essentially their 1325 01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:55,800 recruitment stick against the United States that they used to 1326 01:16:55,800 --> 01:16:58,600 get people on board to volunteer, even to be suicide. 1327 01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:00,100 Attackers against the United States. 1328 01:17:00,100 --> 01:17:03,700 Was that one we have bases in Saudi Arabia. 1329 01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:09,500 We kept after Iraq war one in order to bomb and blockade Iraq. 1330 01:17:09,900 --> 01:17:13,000 And there was a un report and it turns out this was exaggerated 1331 01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:16,100 and withdrawn, but it was the famous report that said that 1332 01:17:16,100 --> 01:17:18,000 five hundred thousand Iraqi children. 1333 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:20,000 Had been starved under the sanctions. 1334 01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,500 It really was 300,000. So, same damn difference, but 1335 01:17:23,500 --> 01:17:27,600 Bin Laden would embellish it to 600,000 and even a million and 1336 01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:30,600 say, the Americans have, you know, blockaded and starved a 1337 01:17:30,600 --> 01:17:32,900 million Iraq. He's our million babies to death 1338 01:17:32,900 --> 01:17:36,600 there. And from these bases on the holy 1339 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:41,000 Arabian, Peninsula the land were of Mecca Medina where Muhammad 1340 01:17:41,000 --> 01:17:44,800 was born and where the Islamic religion was born. 1341 01:17:45,300 --> 01:17:50,200 And then number two on the list is support for Israel and their 1342 01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,100 docking. Their oppression of the people 1343 01:17:53,100 --> 01:17:57,000 of Palestine and at that time of Lebanon and support for the 1344 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:01,100 dictatorships around the region, as I said, pressure on them, to 1345 01:18:01,100 --> 01:18:04,000 rig the oil price to subsidize our economy. 1346 01:18:04,200 --> 01:18:06,200 Their expense, which of course, we hear that all the time, 1347 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:07,500 right? Why is buying mad at Saudi 1348 01:18:07,500 --> 01:18:10,400 Arabia right now because they won't loyal, lower the price of 1349 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,600 oil for him, right? Is a constant theme especially 1350 01:18:13,600 --> 01:18:18,500 right around election time. And then I said, turning a blind 1351 01:18:18,500 --> 01:18:22,800 eye to or supporting anti-islamist Violence by 1352 01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,900 Russia, China, India and Kazakhstan and which is funny 1353 01:18:26,900 --> 01:18:29,400 because that's just not true. The Americans supported the 1354 01:18:29,407 --> 01:18:33,200 mujahideen against the Russians, support of the uyghurs against 1355 01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:35,700 the Chinese. And support of the chechens 1356 01:18:35,700 --> 01:18:41,000 support of the KLA and Kosovo supporter kitab and his friends 1357 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:45,600 in chechnya. And I don't know exactly how 1358 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:50,100 much they did about against Uzbekistan, you know, back in 1359 01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:53,600 say like the Clinton years but I think it was something you know. 1360 01:18:53,600 --> 01:19:00,600 But anyway so those were the motor made the major motivations 1361 01:19:00,600 --> 01:19:03,800 and those were the major recruitment talking. 1362 01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:06,400 For the bin Laden night movement, against the United 1363 01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,100 States in the 90s. And then as I say, the strategy 1364 01:19:09,100 --> 01:19:13,800 was to provoke a fight Louis and to bog us down and bleed us to 1365 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:17,800 bankruptcy. And in fact, I wrote an article 1366 01:19:17,800 --> 01:19:20,800 for anti-war.com, it's like three or four articles ago, it's 1367 01:19:20,800 --> 01:19:24,600 called Peter Berg and is mistaken about Bin Laden 1368 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:27,500 strategy. And Peter Bergen, was the former 1369 01:19:27,500 --> 01:19:31,900 CIA CNN producer who accompanied, Peter Arnett, who 1370 01:19:31,900 --> 01:19:34,900 interviewed Bin Laden in 1996. He likes to claim that he 1371 01:19:34,900 --> 01:19:37,900 interviewed Bin Laden, but he did not Peter Arnett did and he 1372 01:19:37,900 --> 01:19:41,000 was there. But anyway, Bergen is now like, 1373 01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:43,800 you know, proclaimed terrorism expert. 1374 01:19:43,800 --> 01:19:46,000 And he says, open lot and thought he was just going to 1375 01:19:46,008 --> 01:19:48,200 whoop ass in a few months and we'd turn around and leave 1376 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:50,900 crying with our tail between our legs, kind of a thing. 1377 01:19:50,900 --> 01:19:53,500 And that he only made up this stuff about bleeding us to 1378 01:19:53,500 --> 01:19:58,000 bankruptcy the long and hard way kind of after we didn't leave so 1379 01:19:58,000 --> 01:19:59,800 quickly, but that's just not true. 1380 01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:03,000 And I show, you know, through all different kinds of 1381 01:20:03,000 --> 01:20:06,600 documentation. Students from before the 2004 1382 01:20:06,600 --> 01:20:08,100 speech where he really makes it clear. 1383 01:20:08,100 --> 01:20:10,900 He says I have to do is send a piece of cloth upon which it is 1384 01:20:10,900 --> 01:20:13,800 written Al-Qaeda to the furthest point east and you'll spend 1385 01:20:13,800 --> 01:20:17,100 billions of dollars in your generals racing to go and chase 1386 01:20:17,100 --> 01:20:20,600 after it because your damn pool is winter but he said the same 1387 01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:23,000 kind of thing like that for years throughout the 1990s. 1388 01:20:23,300 --> 01:20:26,600 And in fact, even in a letter to mullah Omar of the Taliban, 1389 01:20:27,000 --> 01:20:30,700 sorry for getting you bombed, mullah Omar, please forgive me. 1390 01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:34,000 And please understand that. The Americans have two. 1391 01:20:34,100 --> 01:20:36,100 Aces. They can either pull out now and 1392 01:20:36,100 --> 01:20:40,400 humiliation and be weaken and lose their stature or they can 1393 01:20:40,400 --> 01:20:43,300 stay. And in 10 years, it actually 1394 01:20:43,300 --> 01:20:45,200 took 20 we're not Communists here. 1395 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,100 We got a more powerful economy economy. 1396 01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:51,700 But after 10 years, trust me, they'll be beaten and bloody and 1397 01:20:51,700 --> 01:20:54,000 then they'll have to leave the long in the hard way, and then 1398 01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:58,000 they'll still lose that same stature and power and on the 1399 01:20:58,000 --> 01:20:59,900 world stage. And that is, the point is trying 1400 01:20:59,900 --> 01:21:01,700 to get them to get the hell out of here. 1401 01:21:01,900 --> 01:21:03,200 The long way, in our way, people can read. 1402 01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:04,700 That's right there in the wall. Fraternal. 1403 01:21:05,100 --> 01:21:07,900 It's right there in the Atlantic Alan Collison is the great 1404 01:21:07,900 --> 01:21:11,900 journalist who got a hold of a Taliban aesthetic Taliban 1405 01:21:11,900 --> 01:21:15,200 computers that had that letter from Bin Laden to mullah Omar 1406 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,900 written on it in 2001. And it's it's just so 1407 01:21:18,900 --> 01:21:21,000 incredible. I mean a 20 year war in 1408 01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:24,400 Afghanistan first time. NATO ever declares Article 5 1409 01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,100 declares war and then the Taliban Takeover in 11 days and 1410 01:21:28,100 --> 01:21:33,300 now I see Clips like this with regard to a potential war with 1411 01:21:33,300 --> 01:21:34,700 China. I want you To watch this and I 1412 01:21:34,700 --> 01:21:39,200 want your response here. What should a Chinese president 1413 01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:42,700 XI know about your commitment to Taiwan? 1414 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:47,200 We agree with what we signed on, do a long time ago and that 1415 01:21:47,200 --> 01:21:50,500 there's one, China policy and Taiwan makes their own judgments 1416 01:21:50,500 --> 01:21:53,400 about their independence. We are not moving. 1417 01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:55,700 The, we're not encouraging, their being independent, we're 1418 01:21:55,700 --> 01:21:58,300 not to let. That's their decision, but would 1419 01:21:58,300 --> 01:22:00,200 you assess forces defend the island? 1420 01:22:00,300 --> 01:22:04,200 Yes, if in fact, there was an unprecedented attack after our 1421 01:22:04,200 --> 01:22:08,000 interview of White House, official told us us policy has 1422 01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:12,100 not changed. Officially the US will not say 1423 01:22:12,400 --> 01:22:16,400 whether American forces would defend Taiwan but the 1424 01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:19,100 commander-in-chief had a view of his own. 1425 01:22:19,300 --> 01:22:24,100 So unlike Ukraine to be clear, sir US forces us. 1426 01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:27,700 Men and women would defend Taiwan in the event of a Chinese 1427 01:22:27,700 --> 01:22:29,200 Invasion. Yes. 1428 01:22:31,100 --> 01:22:34,500 What is it that people need to know about a potential conflict 1429 01:22:34,500 --> 01:22:37,400 between the US and China over Taiwan? 1430 01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:43,500 That idiot saying that is the most likely proximate cause of a 1431 01:22:43,500 --> 01:22:46,900 war breaking out. The one China policy has kept 1432 01:22:46,900 --> 01:22:52,000 the peace for 50 years. Half a century since Nixon and 1433 01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:55,000 Kissinger worked as deal out with mouse victim. 1434 01:22:55,900 --> 01:22:59,500 It says well it was officially since Jimmy Carter but they you 1435 01:22:59,500 --> 01:23:03,100 know worked it out. Originally way back under Nixon 1436 01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:07,100 in the early 70s. And the deal is that America 1437 01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:10,300 recognizes the Taiwan It is part of China. 1438 01:23:10,700 --> 01:23:16,900 It has been since the 1600s. And yet, of course, you know, 1439 01:23:16,900 --> 01:23:20,000 for people who don't know, the background is the commies won. 1440 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:24,000 The Civil War in 1949 and the right-wing fashion. 1441 01:23:24,000 --> 01:23:27,700 The Nationalist under Shane Kai-shek fled to Taiwan and then 1442 01:23:27,700 --> 01:23:30,800 the American Navy, got him between him and prevented the 1443 01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,400 commies from finishing the job. So then Taiwan then known as 1444 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:38,800 Formosa became essentially an American protectorate, run by a 1445 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:41,700 right-wing dictatorship. Didn't become a democracy until 1446 01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:44,200 the late 80s, so right-wing fascist military. 1447 01:23:44,300 --> 01:23:47,100 Very dictatorship and was horribly oppressed. 1448 01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:50,100 The local indigenous Taiwanese by the way. 1449 01:23:51,700 --> 01:23:58,100 And but then so the Americans have this insane policy of 1450 01:23:58,100 --> 01:24:01,500 pretending that the government on Taiwan was the real 1451 01:24:01,500 --> 01:24:06,300 government of China and they kept that policy from 1949 until 1452 01:24:06,300 --> 01:24:10,000 1972 73. When Nixon went over there and 1453 01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:13,700 finally changed that and recognize China and gave 1454 01:24:14,200 --> 01:24:18,600 Beijing, their seat on the UN Security Council and because he 1455 01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:20,900 recognized wrote a list of things that China wants and 1456 01:24:20,900 --> 01:24:24,000 things that we want and they want Taiwan. 1457 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:26,300 And we actually don't care about it at all. 1458 01:24:26,500 --> 01:24:27,800 Doesn't make any difference to us. 1459 01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,800 So we'll give him that column but now we didn't want to see 1460 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:35,500 our friends not our allies but our friends crushed either. 1461 01:24:36,300 --> 01:24:42,100 So they said listen, here's the policy America recognizes that 1462 01:24:42,100 --> 01:24:45,200 Taiwan is part of China. It's one country. 1463 01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:50,400 However, we would really like to see you guys resolve your 1464 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,500 differences peacefully and this reintegration to happen at some 1465 01:24:54,500 --> 01:24:57,200 point under peaceful circumstances. 1466 01:24:57,900 --> 01:25:03,100 Then as part of that, the US has also had what was called the 1467 01:25:03,100 --> 01:25:07,700 Dual deterrence policy. The Dual deterrence policy said 1468 01:25:08,100 --> 01:25:13,300 that we would tell the Chinese Mainland. 1469 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:16,800 Hello. Listen, we really don't want you 1470 01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:21,600 guys attack and Taiwan we got a lot of big ships and you know 1471 01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:25,400 that. But then at the same time, we 1472 01:25:25,400 --> 01:25:31,500 would tell the Taiwan, he's you pipe down, pipsqueak you don't 1473 01:25:31,500 --> 01:25:35,700 declare independence, you don't pick a fight with China that 1474 01:25:35,700 --> 01:25:41,100 we're not promising. We will defend you in, don't you 1475 01:25:41,100 --> 01:25:44,100 go getting out over your skis and big too big for your 1476 01:25:44,300 --> 01:25:49,500 Britches and get us in a fight because we might not come to 1477 01:25:49,500 --> 01:25:55,200 your rescue, right? And so, the ambiguity there is 1478 01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:59,400 to imply to the Chinese. We probably would defend them. 1479 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:04,400 Dude, don't try our patience, but to let the Taiwan, he's 1480 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:07,100 believe Ash. We might not defend you. 1481 01:26:07,800 --> 01:26:12,200 So, stay quiet. And don't go and provoke a war. 1482 01:26:12,700 --> 01:26:15,900 Now, what's biting doing? Blindness saying Hell yeah I'll 1483 01:26:15,900 --> 01:26:19,500 defend Taiwan which does what it throws. 1484 01:26:19,500 --> 01:26:22,900 The one China policy out essentially he's de facto 1485 01:26:22,900 --> 01:26:26,800 recognizing Taiwan is an independent Sovereign Nation and 1486 01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:28,800 saying. This isn't a matter of any sort 1487 01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:30,900 of Civil War. This is a war between 1488 01:26:30,900 --> 01:26:33,300 nation-states and he's essentially declaring an 1489 01:26:33,300 --> 01:26:36,000 alliance with the little helpless one. 1490 01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:40,700 Seven thousand miles west to here. 1491 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:49,000 And so, That we have no real ability to defend, and but what 1492 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:52,200 he's doing is, he's bolstering right-wing forces in Taiwan and 1493 01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:55,900 giving them a reason to declare independence. 1494 01:26:56,100 --> 01:26:58,900 Giving them a reason to be overconfident and if they 1495 01:26:58,900 --> 01:27:02,700 declare independence, that is the single thing, most likely to 1496 01:27:02,800 --> 01:27:06,700 cause the Chinese to attack. And then people should know that 1497 01:27:06,700 --> 01:27:11,700 in all the war games, we lose, we get quote, our asses handed 1498 01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:16,500 to us, And that's when the Navy the US Navy fights against 1499 01:27:16,500 --> 01:27:20,700 itself with some guys hired to pretend to be the Chinese. 1500 01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:25,800 And then what happens, it's a simple as their sea-skimming. 1501 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:30,200 Supersonic anti-ship missiles have a longer range than an 1502 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,400 F-18. That there you go. 1503 01:27:34,100 --> 01:27:37,200 Air power checked and mated aircraft carriers. 1504 01:27:37,200 --> 01:27:43,200 Can't get anywhere near Taiwan. Oh well, you published I've I 1505 01:27:43,208 --> 01:27:45,900 was just going to there's a lot of overlap here. 1506 01:27:45,900 --> 01:27:48,600 You published a book titled hotter than the sun, this is a 1507 01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:52,200 collection of interviews where you talk about the danger of 1508 01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:55,100 nuclear weapons, what is it? That people need to understand 1509 01:27:55,100 --> 01:28:00,000 about the reality of a potential nuclear conflict and the risk of 1510 01:28:00,000 --> 01:28:03,400 nuclear war? Well, Hurley in terms of of 1511 01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,900 China here. Just imagine the politics of any 1512 01:28:06,900 --> 01:28:10,700 president, whether it's by nor anyone else in that chair. 1513 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:18,000 If an aircraft carrier is sunk in the Pacific Ocean and we have 1514 01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,100 something like seven or ten thousand Sailors, drowned and 1515 01:28:22,100 --> 01:28:26,000 killed. What does an American president 1516 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:30,700 do? Say odds, Gees shouldn't have 1517 01:28:30,700 --> 01:28:34,700 gotten in that mess. I made a bunch of bad decisions 1518 01:28:34,700 --> 01:28:37,300 that led to this bad outcome. I better change my mind. 1519 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:41,500 No, the only time I know that that that I know of that that 1520 01:28:41,500 --> 01:28:44,900 ever happened was, when Reagan put the Marines in Lebanon and 1521 01:28:44,900 --> 01:28:48,200 they got blown up and then he pulled the surviving ones out 1522 01:28:48,300 --> 01:28:49,700 instead of doubling down the war. 1523 01:28:49,700 --> 01:28:52,500 He left and said man, I shouldn't have done that but 1524 01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,200 they didn't get nuked, they didn't get and they didn't get 1525 01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:58,200 drowned by the thousands of was 250 270 one. 1526 01:28:58,300 --> 01:29:02,300 I believe we're suicide truck, bombed to death but now seven or 1527 01:29:02,300 --> 01:29:06,500 ten thousand Sailors drowned it's almost certain that that 1528 01:29:06,500 --> 01:29:10,000 would escalate to nuclear war and the thing is about nuclear 1529 01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,100 war is that once it starts it's virtually impossible to keep it 1530 01:29:13,100 --> 01:29:15,800 limited. They kill one or two of our 1531 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:19,300 cities and we kill one or two of their cities. 1532 01:29:20,500 --> 01:29:22,500 Now, we're talking 10 million dead. 1533 01:29:24,900 --> 01:29:28,100 And then everybody's going to cool out after that. 1534 01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:35,600 Or not. And especially, I think people 1535 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:40,300 also underestimate the power of modern thermonuclear weapons. 1536 01:29:41,400 --> 01:29:45,300 Where if you look at the aftermath of her Oshima and I 1537 01:29:45,308 --> 01:29:47,600 actually have, I can't share these because they're guy. 1538 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,900 I promise to God I would never share them because they're not 1539 01:29:50,900 --> 01:29:54,800 like officially copyrighted. But there are high resolution 1540 01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:00,000 panoramic pictures of the aftermath of her Oshima 1541 01:30:00,100 --> 01:30:04,400 essentially like a 360-degree view of Hiroshima and it's just 1542 01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:06,400 flattened. It's absolutely unbelievable. 1543 01:30:06,500 --> 01:30:10,900 It's absolutely unbelievable. But that was a 15 kiloton bomb. 1544 01:30:13,300 --> 01:30:16,400 But modern nuclear weapons are detonated in the megatons 1545 01:30:17,700 --> 01:30:22,900 thousands of times more powerful than a Hiroshima bomb. 1546 01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:28,600 So one or two megatons, key is enough to kill all of New York 1547 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:34,200 City, all five boroughs, everybody, everything gone, all 1548 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:36,600 of it. All of Houston. 1549 01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:44,500 All of Dallas. From one bomb, could kill all of 1550 01:30:44,500 --> 01:30:47,600 Dallas Texas. Who's for anybody who's ever 1551 01:30:47,700 --> 01:30:52,900 even just changed planes at DFW airport at night flying in and 1552 01:30:52,900 --> 01:31:00,500 see how vast that territory is like flying into La at night. 11 1553 01:31:00,500 --> 01:31:04,900 good h-bomb set off say, in Hollywood. 1554 01:31:06,100 --> 01:31:09,000 Would kill everybody from the beach to Downtown LA. 1555 01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:15,200 Tens of millions of people would be, you know, either burnt or 1556 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:19,700 radiated killed in the first days. 1557 01:31:19,700 --> 01:31:24,100 First, even single day of a nuclear war and then the idea is 1558 01:31:24,100 --> 01:31:27,600 use them or lose them. The Chinese only have 300 nukes, 1559 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,300 they get a launch them all, or they got to all get destroyed in 1560 01:31:31,300 --> 01:31:33,700 their silos by incoming American News. 1561 01:31:34,600 --> 01:31:36,100 So the answer is use them or lose them. 1562 01:31:36,200 --> 01:31:38,600 Same thing their nukes are targeted at our nukes and our 1563 01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:42,100 silos, use them or lose them now. 1564 01:31:42,500 --> 01:31:46,100 And just think about how mad you'd be if the Chinese nuked 1565 01:31:46,100 --> 01:31:50,300 la. And how mad the rest of society 1566 01:31:50,300 --> 01:31:51,900 would be about that, you can't do that. 1567 01:31:51,900 --> 01:31:55,500 If you knew quell, a we're going to Nuke Wuhan and Shanghai and 1568 01:31:55,500 --> 01:31:58,400 Beijing because that's how we roll. 1569 01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:01,400 And then that's it, that's General nuclear war. 1570 01:32:01,500 --> 01:32:04,300 Then the Russians say y'all better stop or were jumping in 1571 01:32:04,300 --> 01:32:06,800 and then the British say you better not and then that's it. 1572 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:09,100 We're all dead. Dude, we're all dead. 1573 01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:14,200 You're talking about a World War Two worth of casualties every 1574 01:32:14,200 --> 01:32:17,400 day for a week or so until that's it, there's nobody left 1575 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:21,300 to push the buttons anymore. That's so the war would look 1576 01:32:21,300 --> 01:32:25,600 like with Russia or with China. So what do you say to the 1577 01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:26,500 mindset? That. 1578 01:32:26,500 --> 01:32:30,400 All right, so yeah, America is the Empire but if we're not the 1579 01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:33,500 Empire, that void is still going to be there for China. 1580 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,800 Russia. Iran, maybe North Korea rises 1581 01:32:36,900 --> 01:32:39,600 again. So, even though, yeah, look, 1582 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:45,000 unfortunately, we have this America's burden of having to be 1583 01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:47,700 the world's police. But it's a heck of a lot better 1584 01:32:47,700 --> 01:32:50,200 than the CCP calling the Shots everywhere. 1585 01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:55,300 What do you say to that mindset? It's just nonsense and the fact 1586 01:32:55,300 --> 01:32:58,700 that matter is there is no nation in the world, anywhere 1587 01:32:58,700 --> 01:33:04,100 near position to replace America as the global hegemon America's 1588 01:33:04,100 --> 01:33:07,100 the first Global hegemon that's ever really existed. 1589 01:33:07,200 --> 01:33:10,200 I mean, the British have invaded virtually every country in the 1590 01:33:10,208 --> 01:33:13,700 world at one time or another, but they never ruled it all at 1591 01:33:13,700 --> 01:33:16,300 once. The way that America has since 1592 01:33:16,300 --> 01:33:20,000 the fall of Communism or we are dominant in essentially every 1593 01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,700 single state on Earth. Earth, including Russia and 1594 01:33:23,700 --> 01:33:28,600 China up until recently and now, they're being, you know, pushed 1595 01:33:28,700 --> 01:33:32,200 outward more. But they have nothing like the 1596 01:33:32,200 --> 01:33:36,100 advantages that America had to build our world Empire America, 1597 01:33:36,100 --> 01:33:38,500 build our world Empire, the aftermath of World War two were 1598 01:33:38,500 --> 01:33:40,900 every single other. Industrialized State, on the 1599 01:33:40,900 --> 01:33:46,300 planet had been reduced to ashes and America had was quite the 1600 01:33:46,300 --> 01:33:49,600 opposite. And was, you know, provided with 1601 01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:53,800 sixty percent or more of the On the face of the Earth was coming 1602 01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:55,700 out of the middle part of North America. 1603 01:33:55,900 --> 01:33:58,900 So the economic disparity, there was just simply what we say, 1604 01:33:58,900 --> 01:34:03,000 goes Ike Eisenhower, you know, told the British and the French 1605 01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:07,000 and the Israelis at Suez the like, no, I'm the boss and 1606 01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,500 you're not, can you question that? 1607 01:34:09,500 --> 01:34:14,000 And they were like no, right. Because America had that much 1608 01:34:14,000 --> 01:34:17,800 more power than every other state on the planet. 1609 01:34:17,900 --> 01:34:20,800 They had to pretend that the Soviet Union was 12 feet tall 1610 01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:23,500 when they never were. Were it was always the most 1611 01:34:23,500 --> 01:34:28,700 ramshackle Empire and, you know, frankly if we hadn't had an 80 1612 01:34:28,700 --> 01:34:33,100 at all and the Soviets had attempted to bite off West, 1613 01:34:33,100 --> 01:34:36,500 Germany, France, and Spain. They have probably gone bankrupt 1614 01:34:36,500 --> 01:34:41,900 in the process there before, you know, the 50s before the 60s, 1615 01:34:41,900 --> 01:34:46,400 for sure. So, you know, we never even 1616 01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:49,200 really needed to have a cold war to contain the USSR. 1617 01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:54,700 Now Russia that has a GDP equivalent to New York City. 1618 01:34:55,800 --> 01:35:00,300 Not state, but just the city equivalent to the nation of 1619 01:35:00,300 --> 01:35:05,500 Italy. That's preposterous a nation 1620 01:35:05,500 --> 01:35:07,500 like Iran. That has an economy equivalent 1621 01:35:07,500 --> 01:35:11,100 to the southern half of Alabama, they're going to take over. 1622 01:35:11,100 --> 01:35:16,300 They couldn't even be a regional hegeman due to their religious 1623 01:35:16,300 --> 01:35:20,600 minority status except for the fact that W bush gave them 1624 01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:26,300 Baghdad W, bush made Syria and Yemen, more dependent on them 1625 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:29,600 than ever before. But that's just the Ayatollah 1626 01:35:29,900 --> 01:35:32,200 opening American. Christmas gifts. 1627 01:35:32,300 --> 01:35:35,800 Don't tell me that. That's the u.s. you know keeping 1628 01:35:35,800 --> 01:35:39,600 Iran at Bay or containing them are holding them down. 1629 01:35:39,600 --> 01:35:43,600 They just do nothing but benefit from American intervention over 1630 01:35:43,600 --> 01:35:47,800 there and you know for and there's no way in the world that 1631 01:35:47,800 --> 01:35:51,200 their forces could somehow what invade and dominate the Arabian 1632 01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:54,300 Peninsula. Not in the next 500 years, are 1633 01:35:54,300 --> 01:35:58,200 the Persians taken over Arabia. It's just not in the cards and 1634 01:35:58,200 --> 01:36:01,900 look at China to, you know, when people accuse Sign of all the 1635 01:36:01,900 --> 01:36:08,000 worst sins and rightfully so they'll admit that China is 1636 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:12,500 already a massive overextended Empire, right? 1637 01:36:12,500 --> 01:36:18,200 It's the Han Chinese Empire over the weekers over the Tibetans 1638 01:36:18,700 --> 01:36:21,600 over, you know, a bunch of other, you know ethnic and 1639 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,500 religious type minorities inside mainland China. 1640 01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:28,600 I marry in heard of they got these major factions, they're 1641 01:36:28,600 --> 01:36:31,000 trying to dominate problems with Ty. 1642 01:36:31,100 --> 01:36:34,000 Taiwan and then they've got, I forgot the count, I think it's 1643 01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:39,800 13 neighbors, that border them that they have to deal with you 1644 01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,700 think of all of the paranoid talk about them, invading 1645 01:36:42,700 --> 01:36:45,700 Taiwan, which it could happen, it absolutely could. 1646 01:36:46,700 --> 01:36:49,100 But again, Taiwan is part of China. 1647 01:36:49,900 --> 01:36:54,900 Nobody, who's not just some ridiculous crank really believes 1648 01:36:55,300 --> 01:36:59,400 that China is planning on invading and conquering Vietnam 1649 01:36:59,400 --> 01:37:03,900 Next and then Laos and Cambodia and Bhutan and Pakistan. 1650 01:37:04,500 --> 01:37:06,900 Hell, I don't even hear people worrying, that they're going to 1651 01:37:06,900 --> 01:37:11,100 invade outer Mongolia, which is, you know, pretty much 1652 01:37:11,100 --> 01:37:14,000 independent nation between China and Russia there. 1653 01:37:14,500 --> 01:37:17,500 Nobody thinks they're going to invade North and South Korea. 1654 01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:20,200 Nobody thinks that they're going to invade and try to conquer 1655 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:23,500 Japan. We're talking about whether or 1656 01:37:23,500 --> 01:37:27,500 not they're going to Reese's their own so-called Renegade 1657 01:37:27,500 --> 01:37:31,300 Province. The idea, then that they're 1658 01:37:31,300 --> 01:37:35,400 picking a fight with the USA. They're coming to California. 1659 01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:40,900 Come on nobody, who understands how big the Pacific Ocean is 1660 01:37:40,900 --> 01:37:44,000 thinks that's true. It's just not true. 1661 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:47,400 It could never be true. The number of troops ships that 1662 01:37:47,400 --> 01:37:51,700 they would have to manufacture And the number of missiles that 1663 01:37:51,700 --> 01:37:53,600 America would have to ship off to Ukraine. 1664 01:37:53,600 --> 01:37:58,300 So we don't have any to defend ourselves a ship. 1665 01:37:58,300 --> 01:38:01,300 Can only sale. So fast across the Pacific, they 1666 01:38:01,300 --> 01:38:04,800 couldn't get anywhere near. They couldn't get past Hawaii. 1667 01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:10,000 Before we sank, every single one of them and there's just as Ron 1668 01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:13,100 Paul put it, we could have been this country with a couple of 1669 01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:18,500 good submarines and then even then look at India, could China, 1670 01:38:18,500 --> 01:38:22,300 invade and conquer. Overtake India no way and could 1671 01:38:22,300 --> 01:38:26,300 they have a very dangerous War even a nuclear war fighting over 1672 01:38:26,300 --> 01:38:28,300 a disputed Border in the Himalayas? 1673 01:38:28,300 --> 01:38:29,700 Absolutely. Yes. 1674 01:38:29,700 --> 01:38:36,100 But does anyone really think that China can move out of 1675 01:38:36,100 --> 01:38:42,000 China? Move west and take over Eurasia, 1676 01:38:42,000 --> 01:38:47,000 take it away from the Cossacks and Uzbek sand the Siberians and 1677 01:38:47,000 --> 01:38:49,700 the Afghans, and the no, come on. 1678 01:38:49,800 --> 01:38:52,900 Come on, nobody thinks that and even their belt and Road 1679 01:38:52,900 --> 01:38:56,700 initiative, which is first of all a boondoggle, right? 1680 01:38:56,800 --> 01:39:01,700 You know, hardly workable in the first place but all it is is 1681 01:39:01,700 --> 01:39:06,900 they're trying to spread essentially trade and private 1682 01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:11,800 influencers semi-private influence across Eurasia, but 1683 01:39:12,100 --> 01:39:14,900 the idea that they're just going to March there. 1684 01:39:14,900 --> 01:39:18,900 What 10 million man? Army down a highway to Lisbon 1685 01:39:18,900 --> 01:39:21,000 Portugal. And that they're not going to 1686 01:39:21,000 --> 01:39:24,800 get stopped by 10,000. Different, factions between here 1687 01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:27,200 and there. It's just, this is the stuff of 1688 01:39:27,200 --> 01:39:30,000 fantasy and I know that right Wingers like being afraid of 1689 01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,000 things, but the truth of the matter is Spin The Globe. 1690 01:39:33,500 --> 01:39:35,200 There is no power that threatens us. 1691 01:39:35,200 --> 01:39:40,800 There's no power really, and I should say, I guess, China could 1692 01:39:41,100 --> 01:39:44,300 if it wasn't for America they might throw a lot of weight 1693 01:39:44,300 --> 01:39:50,400 around in Vietnam and Laos and Thailand, but I don't care about 1694 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,200 that. I don't think for a minute that 1695 01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:58,400 they would pose an offensive military threat and America 1696 01:39:58,400 --> 01:40:00,500 throwing its weight around to keep them out. 1697 01:40:00,500 --> 01:40:03,000 It's hardly worth it. And one of the reasons America 1698 01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:06,400 made friends with China was so that it didn't matter that we 1699 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:10,500 lost the Vietnam War because Well, who cares about the Domino 1700 01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:12,000 Theory? Now, if we made friends with 1701 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,100 now, now, now now. Yeah. 1702 01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:15,800 And of course, it was the Americans who kicked over the 1703 01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:20,100 Domino and Cambodia so that doesn't count, you know, the 1704 01:40:20,108 --> 01:40:22,300 Khmer Rouge. That was might as well have been 1705 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:26,200 Nixon's project back before Carter and Reagan directly back 1706 01:40:26,200 --> 01:40:32,300 them. But anyway, so there is no power 1707 01:40:32,300 --> 01:40:35,400 or even combination of powers potential combination of powers 1708 01:40:35,400 --> 01:40:36,900 on this Earth. That threaten us. 1709 01:40:37,000 --> 01:40:39,000 He look at our Ukraine policy, right? 1710 01:40:39,500 --> 01:40:43,700 Much of this has to do with attempting to thwart a peaceful 1711 01:40:43,700 --> 01:40:48,100 Alliance and relationship between Germany and Russia. 1712 01:40:48,200 --> 01:40:51,800 So why they're hell-bent against this Nord stream pipeline? 1713 01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:55,000 Because if Germany is friends with Russia, and why do they 1714 01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,200 need us? Germany's friends was Russia 1715 01:40:58,200 --> 01:40:59,500 than that. Means that together, they 1716 01:40:59,500 --> 01:41:02,600 dominate all the lands of Eastern Europe, which means that 1717 01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:06,100 we don't. And so how can America stuck way 1718 01:41:06,100 --> 01:41:10,100 over here in America. And with our allies, the 1719 01:41:10,100 --> 01:41:13,400 British, how can we rule the whole world with our Navy's? 1720 01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:17,600 If we don't control the land, it's under the old British 1721 01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:19,700 imperialist. Theories of Alfred mikeanderin. 1722 01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:23,900 You have to control Ukraine, to be the dominant force in Eastern 1723 01:41:23,900 --> 01:41:27,600 Europe, and he who controls the pivot point in Eastern Europe, 1724 01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:31,100 controls the world Island, which is hilarious, because look at 1725 01:41:31,100 --> 01:41:34,000 the map, I mean, Ukraine, I guess is the key to the Black 1726 01:41:34,000 --> 01:41:38,600 Sea, so those turkey. But Ukraine is the key. 1727 01:41:38,800 --> 01:41:42,700 To what dominating Afghanistan and China and Kazakhstan and 1728 01:41:42,700 --> 01:41:48,900 Russia like not really no. It's access to a lot of Wheat 1729 01:41:49,200 --> 01:41:51,500 and I guess that means you can keep it out of the mouths of 1730 01:41:51,500 --> 01:41:55,100 people who you want to go hungry, if you're trying to 1731 01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:58,800 exercise Imperial power. But just because Alfred 1732 01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:02,500 mikeanderin wrote the stupid poem that says you have to 1733 01:42:02,500 --> 01:42:05,300 control the pivot point to control the world Island and all 1734 01:42:05,300 --> 01:42:07,400 this crap, doesn't mean that there's any wisdom in it 1735 01:42:07,400 --> 01:42:10,500 whatsoever. And and again, I mean, you know, 1736 01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:16,700 look at when the Soviets dominated All of Eastern Europe 1737 01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:21,100 and Asia was that because they controlled Ukraine. 1738 01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,900 Now, this is one more country that they control and gave them 1739 01:42:25,900 --> 01:42:29,100 their warm water port and access to the Mediterranean, but they 1740 01:42:29,100 --> 01:42:31,500 didn't spread their Soviet Union throughout the Mediterranean 1741 01:42:31,500 --> 01:42:33,000 from their. Did they know? 1742 01:42:34,200 --> 01:42:37,900 So that is just so incredible, sabotaging peace between Germany 1743 01:42:37,900 --> 01:42:40,100 and Russia. I mean, after two world wars 1744 01:42:40,300 --> 01:42:42,100 that that couldn't be appreciated. 1745 01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:44,900 One of the most impressive things that I read. 1746 01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,500 Was an author, you mentioned. Previously Pat. 1747 01:42:47,500 --> 01:42:52,000 Buchanan saying, look, here are some examples of atrocities that 1748 01:42:52,000 --> 01:42:56,400 have occurred that America did not intervene in as a result and 1749 01:42:56,500 --> 01:42:58,300 the Soviet Union came crumbling down. 1750 01:42:58,300 --> 01:43:02,900 He said, Eisenhower was being pushed by some people in 1956 to 1751 01:43:02,900 --> 01:43:06,700 go defend Hungary when the Soviet smashed a rebellion there 1752 01:43:06,900 --> 01:43:10,000 and he didn't do it in 68, Lyndon Johnson, didn't do it in 1753 01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:14,200 Czechoslovakia and then the Soviets I think in 1983 shot 1754 01:43:14,200 --> 01:43:16,100 down. A plane with an American 1755 01:43:16,100 --> 01:43:19,400 Congressman on it. And Ronald Reagan did not 1756 01:43:19,400 --> 01:43:23,000 declare war a crush on the solidarity in Poland as well, 1757 01:43:23,100 --> 01:43:24,400 the song. Yeah. 1758 01:43:24,800 --> 01:43:26,200 Yeah. And and the serbians came 1759 01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:30,600 crumbling down. So so Marco Rubio, can Embrace 1760 01:43:30,600 --> 01:43:34,600 his own party's history and not be a China Hawk and be the 1761 01:43:34,600 --> 01:43:38,500 complete opposite. Same thing for Russia to looking 1762 01:43:38,500 --> 01:43:40,700 for. The fact the matter is Ukraine 1763 01:43:40,700 --> 01:43:43,300 is none of America's national interest unless you define 1764 01:43:43,300 --> 01:43:46,700 America's national interest by this, In ridiculous, Alfred 1765 01:43:46,700 --> 01:43:52,500 mikeanderin poem that says that you have to dominate Ukraine to 1766 01:43:52,500 --> 01:43:54,800 rule the world. Well, I don't want to rule the 1767 01:43:54,800 --> 01:43:56,300 world. I don't think we should and I 1768 01:43:56,300 --> 01:43:58,700 think that that's stupid. Anyway, I think dominating 1769 01:43:58,700 --> 01:44:02,800 Ukraine doesn't give you the key to ruling Eurasia and that 1770 01:44:02,800 --> 01:44:05,600 that's stupid and that anybody who thinks that that should be 1771 01:44:05,700 --> 01:44:07,900 the guiding policy. The United States also is 1772 01:44:07,900 --> 01:44:10,300 stupid. The whole thing is completely 1773 01:44:10,300 --> 01:44:15,900 suicidal and and look, it could be that if America completely 1774 01:44:15,900 --> 01:44:18,300 abolish, NATO and brought all our troops home. 1775 01:44:18,500 --> 01:44:22,500 That maybe the Russians would try to dominate Latvia and 1776 01:44:22,500 --> 01:44:24,800 Lithuania again or something like that. 1777 01:44:25,700 --> 01:44:27,600 I don't care about that, frankly. 1778 01:44:27,600 --> 01:44:32,100 I don't care if they Crush solidarity or whoever tries to, 1779 01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:36,700 you know, is the ruling faction in Poland either, that's just 1780 01:44:36,700 --> 01:44:38,900 tough. The whole rest of the world 1781 01:44:39,300 --> 01:44:43,700 look, this planet, you know, H bombs are not is going to just 1782 01:44:43,700 --> 01:44:46,600 keep spinning. The idea that the middle part of 1783 01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:50,400 North America is to be the dominant power in all of Europe 1784 01:44:50,400 --> 01:44:56,300 and Asia forever to keep everyone else from fighting or 1785 01:44:56,300 --> 01:45:00,600 any other political faction from declaring influence on another 1786 01:45:00,600 --> 01:45:05,400 side of a line drawn after WWII somewhere is a Fool's errand. 1787 01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:08,200 It's absolutely crazy. And it has brought us to the 1788 01:45:08,200 --> 01:45:12,200 brink of nuclear war over a nation that as Pat Buchanan 1789 01:45:12,200 --> 01:45:14,800 said, Ukraine, their east of what we ever use. 1790 01:45:15,000 --> 01:45:18,900 To call Eastern Europe. I mean, even as recently as last 1791 01:45:18,900 --> 01:45:24,400 year people called it the Ukraine, like they say the 1792 01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:27,800 Midwest, right? It's a region of Russia. 1793 01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:34,400 Most Americans thought, right? Like certainly they did up until 1794 01:45:34,400 --> 01:45:38,100 finding out differently at the beginning of this year, there's 1795 01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:41,700 like saying Siberia was, of course, it's dominated by 1796 01:45:41,700 --> 01:45:45,400 Russia, it makes more sense. That Ukraine would be Dominated 1797 01:45:45,400 --> 01:45:49,100 by the United States then by Russia and we're willing to 1798 01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:53,800 risk. Literally everything to make 1799 01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:58,000 that true Obama. I mean Biden, and his government 1800 01:45:58,000 --> 01:46:02,600 say whatever it takes. As long as it takes to secure a 1801 01:46:02,600 --> 01:46:08,500 total victory for Ukraine here and Crimea to, I mean, this is 1802 01:46:08,500 --> 01:46:10,800 madness. This is seriously. 1803 01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:14,700 This is far more Reckless policy even than George w-- Bush. 1804 01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,800 Going to the Middle East. And this is the most dangerous 1805 01:46:17,800 --> 01:46:23,000 thing. I mean, It's as bad as it says 1806 01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:28,400 well look if there's a direct comparison to Jack Kennedy who 1807 01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:30,600 like after all did, put the missiles in Turkey. 1808 01:46:30,700 --> 01:46:34,800 In order to, you know, which did provoke the Cuban Missile Crisis 1809 01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,700 that then he ended up trading the missiles away to solve. 1810 01:46:37,800 --> 01:46:41,500 It was a problem that he had caused and with all of his BS, 1811 01:46:41,500 --> 01:46:44,500 talk about the missile Gap, and how we had to build up this 1812 01:46:44,500 --> 01:46:48,100 massive machine to produce nuclear missiles. 1813 01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:53,000 When the Reds only had four, And he was pretending that they were 1814 01:46:53,000 --> 01:46:56,500 way ahead of us and so is escalating nuclear brinkmanship, 1815 01:46:56,500 --> 01:46:59,300 which helped to provoke the Cuban Missile Crisis. 1816 01:46:59,300 --> 01:47:02,300 I mean, is that it's that Reckless, essentially, people 1817 01:47:02,300 --> 01:47:04,400 always remember that Jack, Kennedy solve that problem 1818 01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:07,400 without getting us all killed. So thank God for that but he 1819 01:47:07,407 --> 01:47:09,500 always gets the credit for that. He doesn't get the blame for 1820 01:47:09,500 --> 01:47:11,000 causing the problem in the first place. 1821 01:47:11,200 --> 01:47:14,600 But so here we have Joe Biden with all the recklessness of 1822 01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:16,100 Jack Kennedy. But without any of the 1823 01:47:16,100 --> 01:47:21,000 responsibility, You know, his Lamesa say come on, we should do 1824 01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:26,700 more and he goes yeah men then and this is the worst Joe Biden 1825 01:47:26,700 --> 01:47:27,800 that's ever lived. In Joe. 1826 01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:31,000 Biden has always been horrible but this version of him worries 1827 01:47:31,000 --> 01:47:35,800 just absolutely out of his mind has no wisdom anywhere in there 1828 01:47:35,800 --> 01:47:39,300 at all, to Rattle around and compare things that he knows to 1829 01:47:39,300 --> 01:47:41,700 other things. That he knows, and he's nothing. 1830 01:47:41,700 --> 01:47:46,500 But essentially, a knee-jerk reflex left in that head and 1831 01:47:46,500 --> 01:47:49,800 it's, it's terrifying, man. It really is the most dangerous 1832 01:47:49,800 --> 01:47:51,600 situation. We've been in my lifetime, for 1833 01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,900 sure it's so difficult because with all these conflicts, that 1834 01:47:54,900 --> 01:47:57,800 you're sort of playing whack-a-mole, it's like, oh, I 1835 01:47:57,900 --> 01:48:01,000 for the last 20 years thought that Muslims were going to kill 1836 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:02,800 me and discriminately for no reason. 1837 01:48:03,100 --> 01:48:05,700 And now I haven't heard of these people in two years. 1838 01:48:05,700 --> 01:48:08,200 It's all about Russia and now it's all about China. 1839 01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:13,200 So how is it that people can differentiate between War 1840 01:48:13,200 --> 01:48:16,100 propaganda and genuine news coverage to decrease the 1841 01:48:16,108 --> 01:48:20,100 likelihood America will get Nip. Elated into another massive 1842 01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:25,200 conflict reading anti-war.com. And that's the reality of it and 1843 01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:26,200 bring. I'm kind of glad that you 1844 01:48:26,200 --> 01:48:28,200 brought up the al-Qaeda thing because I still think that 1845 01:48:28,200 --> 01:48:31,200 that's a danger. I mean yes, the it use that as 1846 01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:34,000 an excuse to do all these things but that doesn't mean these 1847 01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:38,400 groups don't really exist and I think it's you know, vastly 1848 01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,100 overblown who say oh and Al qaeda-linked group here and 1849 01:48:41,100 --> 01:48:44,600 there like al-shabaab in Somalia give me a break man, leave those 1850 01:48:44,600 --> 01:48:51,100 people alone but aqap in Yemen, that we used to bomb and kill 1851 01:48:51,100 --> 01:48:53,700 that that ever since Barack Obama switch. 1852 01:48:53,800 --> 01:48:57,400 Sides in the war in 2015, our government has been backing 1853 01:48:57,400 --> 01:48:58,800 their. These are guys that tried to 1854 01:48:58,800 --> 01:49:02,000 blow up a plane over. Detroit on Christmas Day, 2009, 1855 01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:05,000 they'll coordinate, September 11th, a bomb, the coal. 1856 01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:09,000 They were responsible for some of those massacres in France, in 1857 01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:14,700 Brussels and in France, and in Paris and a nice. 1858 01:49:15,500 --> 01:49:18,000 And so Hand Pulse Nightclub there. 1859 01:49:18,300 --> 01:49:22,200 Well no not aqap but that guy pledged allegiance to the 1860 01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:24,700 Islamic State. So we We'll have blowback from 1861 01:49:24,700 --> 01:49:26,600 all this stuff. Yeah, certainly. 1862 01:49:26,600 --> 01:49:30,000 But I mean, in that particular group aqap, I think that they're 1863 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,300 going to be a problem for a long time. 1864 01:49:31,300 --> 01:49:36,000 If the if the current Yemen war ends, I think that the danger of 1865 01:49:36,000 --> 01:49:40,400 aqap attempting to assemble, essentially continue Osama Bin 1866 01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:44,600 Laden, same strategy, provoking America into continuing the 1867 01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:47,800 Middle East war is to continue the further radicalization and 1868 01:49:47,800 --> 01:49:51,600 destabilization of that region toward their ultimate ends. 1869 01:49:51,600 --> 01:49:54,200 Now, that doesn't mean that they have the ability to Reach Out 1870 01:49:54,200 --> 01:49:59,300 And Touch us very easily but it's certainly not impossible 1871 01:49:59,300 --> 01:50:03,500 and they're not gone. I think mostly Al-Qaeda are used 1872 01:50:03,500 --> 01:50:08,300 as mercenaries by America and our Turkish and Saudi allies. 1873 01:50:08,300 --> 01:50:11,600 Like we see in Libya Syria and in Yemen. 1874 01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:15,400 And there have been jihadis off going to fight alongside the 1875 01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:17,600 right-wingers fighting the Russians in Ukraine. 1876 01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:21,900 There's a massive Series in The Intercept three or four article 1877 01:50:21,900 --> 01:50:24,800 series about Syria and Jihad. He's going in, teaming up with 1878 01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:28,800 Nazis to go fight Russia in the donbas before this current war 1879 01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:30,600 broke out over the last few years. 1880 01:50:32,200 --> 01:50:36,600 And so, I think, you know why the FBI is busy investigating 1881 01:50:36,600 --> 01:50:42,000 you and me for our anti FBI rhetoric, this is the kind of 1882 01:50:42,900 --> 01:50:45,500 danger that this kind of deal can happen right under their 1883 01:50:45,500 --> 01:50:47,300 nose. And we seemed like the Boston 1884 01:50:47,300 --> 01:50:49,200 bombing. For example, it was Vladimir 1885 01:50:49,200 --> 01:50:52,100 Putin and the Russians who warned that these guys are tied 1886 01:50:52,100 --> 01:50:55,300 with the Chechen jihadists. Who Oops, America likes the 1887 01:50:55,300 --> 01:50:59,200 Chechen jihadists, so the alarm wasn't going on, you know, they 1888 01:50:59,200 --> 01:51:02,100 didn't pay attention and we know from the great journalism of 1889 01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:06,700 Trevor Aaronson that at the time, that the Boston bombing 1890 01:51:06,700 --> 01:51:11,200 was being planned and plotted and prepared the FBI, not just 1891 01:51:11,200 --> 01:51:15,800 the FBI. But the Boston FBI was busy. 1892 01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:19,800 Chasing their tail and trapping some idiot into a fake plot. 1893 01:51:20,600 --> 01:51:23,700 While this real one was going on right under their nose. 1894 01:51:23,800 --> 01:51:27,300 Now, they're not even busy and trapping Muslim idiots into fake 1895 01:51:27,300 --> 01:51:29,400 plots. Now they're busy and trapping 1896 01:51:29,400 --> 01:51:32,800 American white, right wing idiots into fake plots and 1897 01:51:32,800 --> 01:51:36,600 they're not even looking at what's left of real ass. 1898 01:51:36,600 --> 01:51:40,000 Al-Qaeda out there that still has the motive and potentially 1899 01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:43,200 the ability to attack us. So this is the kind of and the 1900 01:51:43,200 --> 01:51:45,300 real answer. Your question is how are we to 1901 01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:48,900 tell think hard? About what the hell is going on 1902 01:51:48,900 --> 01:51:50,700 here. You know, in the first place, 1903 01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,900 try to stay and, you know, up to date as much as you can and 1904 01:51:53,900 --> 01:51:57,300 you'll notice all the same inconsistencies, you know, 1905 01:51:57,400 --> 01:52:00,600 Malcolm X said, if you stand for nothing you'll fall for 1906 01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:02,700 anything. Well it's also true if you stand 1907 01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:07,000 for something, you'll start to notice a lot of weird stuff 1908 01:52:07,100 --> 01:52:10,300 really quickly. When if you have a little bit of 1909 01:52:10,300 --> 01:52:14,000 consistency, you can see how inconsistent and crazy, 1910 01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:19,200 everything else is. And so, You know, like if 1911 01:52:19,200 --> 01:52:22,600 they're telling you, North Korea, they've got it in for us. 1912 01:52:23,900 --> 01:52:26,800 Like, that doesn't really sound right does it, you know, you 1913 01:52:26,800 --> 01:52:29,400 could tell it's the Americans who have it in for the North 1914 01:52:29,400 --> 01:52:32,500 Koreans, and we put them in a very bad position. 1915 01:52:32,600 --> 01:52:37,000 Now, that doesn't mean that their government is even 1916 01:52:37,000 --> 01:52:40,500 redeemable. I mean, there is really the last 1917 01:52:40,500 --> 01:52:44,300 totalitarian state on the planet, truly totalitarian state 1918 01:52:44,300 --> 01:52:48,100 on the planet. And China looks like, you know, 1919 01:52:48,100 --> 01:52:50,200 a free Society Compared to North Korea. 1920 01:52:50,200 --> 01:52:52,500 Something like, two thirds of the population are in the 1921 01:52:52,500 --> 01:52:55,000 military. Is an absolute command and 1922 01:52:55,000 --> 01:53:00,500 control dictatorship publicly owned virtually, everything 1923 01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:02,600 government-controlled virtually everything. 1924 01:53:02,900 --> 01:53:06,800 And yet reason they're a danger is because of the United States 1925 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:09,700 of America. We refuse to negotiate an 1926 01:53:09,700 --> 01:53:16,200 honest, peace deal with them for now my God man, 70 years, right? 1927 01:53:18,300 --> 01:53:22,500 When in fact it was just 20 years ago, Keith is Right 20 1928 01:53:22,500 --> 01:53:25,400 years ago. The John Bolton and Dick Cheney 1929 01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:29,400 and George w-- Bush. Ruined everything with North 1930 01:53:29,400 --> 01:53:33,500 Korea, the North Koreans had were a deal with Bill Clinton 1931 01:53:33,900 --> 01:53:37,000 that was called the agreed framework and as you can see 1932 01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:38,800 that was just the start. It was supposed to be an agreed 1933 01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:43,200 framework toward really having a final deal and I hate to give 1934 01:53:43,200 --> 01:53:45,800 Bill Clinton credit for anything, but this is a hell of 1935 01:53:45,800 --> 01:53:48,000 a lot better than it. Could have been the North 1936 01:53:48,000 --> 01:53:51,100 Koreans promised to stay within the non-proliferation treaty and 1937 01:53:51,100 --> 01:53:54,700 to continue to have a safeguards agreement with the international 1938 01:53:54,700 --> 01:53:57,700 atomic energy agency, under that treaty and to leave R 1939 01:53:57,700 --> 01:54:03,200 soviet-built Jung Byung reactor off if America would give them 1940 01:54:03,300 --> 01:54:07,100 money fuel oil and eventually light water reactors by the way, 1941 01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:09,100 Donald rumsfeld's company. Got the contract to build a 1942 01:54:09,108 --> 01:54:11,600 light water reactors, they kept the money, never deliver the 1943 01:54:11,600 --> 01:54:16,000 reactors and Newt, Gingrich and the republicans in Congress in 1944 01:54:16,000 --> 01:54:19,000 the 90s never really would provide the money or the fuel 1945 01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,600 oil or any of that stuff. To implement the deal, the North 1946 01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:26,400 Koreans still stayed in it. But then John Bolton lied and 1947 01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,200 said that they had, they were busted with a secret, uranium 1948 01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:31,800 enrichment program. Yes, it's probably true that 1949 01:54:31,800 --> 01:54:34,900 they had bought some aluminum tubes from the pakistanis, which 1950 01:54:34,900 --> 01:54:36,800 is just some old first generation crap. 1951 01:54:36,800 --> 01:54:39,700 There's no evidence they ever had a secret uranium enrichment 1952 01:54:39,700 --> 01:54:42,200 program that they had implemented in any way. 1953 01:54:42,300 --> 01:54:47,000 And if they had, that was not necessarily in violation of the 1954 01:54:47,000 --> 01:54:49,700 agreed, framework, or of their safeguards agreement with the 1955 01:54:49,700 --> 01:54:52,900 iaea or of the non-proliferation treaty, which guarantees there. 1956 01:54:53,100 --> 01:54:55,400 Right to nuclear technology for peaceful purposes. 1957 01:54:55,600 --> 01:54:59,400 And enriching uranium is not necessarily enriching uranium, 1958 01:54:59,400 --> 01:55:02,400 for use in nuclear weapons, that's a separate issue. 1959 01:55:02,500 --> 01:55:06,000 And so if it was even true, that they had a uranium enrichment 1960 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:08,800 program, still improving to this day that they did. 1961 01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:12,400 At that time, that still would only be the basis for further 1962 01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:15,400 negotiations. But so what did John Bolton and 1963 01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:18,000 George w-- Bush? Do they tore up the agreed 1964 01:55:18,000 --> 01:55:20,700 framework using that? As the excuse, they broke the 1965 01:55:20,700 --> 01:55:23,400 deal then they announced brand-new, you know, Lateral 1966 01:55:23,400 --> 01:55:25,800 sanctions then they announced what was called the 1967 01:55:25,800 --> 01:55:29,200 proliferation security initiative which meant their 1968 01:55:29,200 --> 01:55:32,400 claimed right to seize North Korean ships on the high seas, 1969 01:55:32,700 --> 01:55:35,000 in the name of counter-proliferation and then 1970 01:55:35,000 --> 01:55:38,900 they put them in the neck in the nuclear posture review that 1971 01:55:38,900 --> 01:55:42,800 December 2002 and put them on the short list for a potential 1972 01:55:42,800 --> 01:55:46,100 nuclear first strike. And only then did Kim Jong-il 1973 01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:47,500 announced. He was going to withdraw from 1974 01:55:47,500 --> 01:55:49,600 the non-proliferation treaty and kick. 1975 01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:52,500 The iaea inspectors out of the country and start making nuclear 1976 01:55:52,500 --> 01:55:54,600 weapons. Which is exactly what he did. 1977 01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:58,400 Now, the plan I guess was going to provoke him into withdrawing 1978 01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:01,700 from the treaty and then we're going to attack him, but the 1979 01:56:01,700 --> 01:56:03,800 problem was, the war in, Iraq, was such a disaster. 1980 01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:06,000 There's no way they're going on in North Korea then. 1981 01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:09,400 So all they did was force them to start making nukes but then 1982 01:56:09,400 --> 01:56:12,000 they weren't able to start a war to stop him from completing the 1983 01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,900 project. So now we have a North Korean 1984 01:56:14,900 --> 01:56:17,700 Communists to tell Terry dictatorship sitting on a couple 1985 01:56:17,700 --> 01:56:20,600 of dozen nuclear bombs and guess what? 1986 01:56:20,900 --> 01:56:22,900 They're all made out of plutonium. 1987 01:56:23,100 --> 01:56:25,900 Every test that they've done of a nuclear bomb, this whole time 1988 01:56:25,900 --> 01:56:29,000 has been made up out of plutonium that they got out of 1989 01:56:29,000 --> 01:56:32,400 that they harvested from the waste, from their Jung, Byung 1990 01:56:32,600 --> 01:56:36,900 soviet-built reactor and again, no evidence whatsoever that 1991 01:56:36,900 --> 01:56:39,900 they've ever made a nuclear bomb, the reasonably they've 1992 01:56:39,900 --> 01:56:42,800 ever made a nuclear bomb out of enriched uranium. 1993 01:56:43,100 --> 01:56:45,900 So, based on John Bolton and George W. 1994 01:56:45,900 --> 01:56:48,300 Bush's failure. There they push they literally 1995 01:56:48,300 --> 01:56:51,100 push Kim Jong-il directly into the possession of nuclear 1996 01:56:51,100 --> 01:56:53,200 weapons. And then would they say, Will 1997 01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:56,800 never negotiate with you until you give up all your nuclear 1998 01:56:56,800 --> 01:56:59,900 weapons. First that's the precondition 1999 01:56:59,900 --> 01:57:01,600 for talks. Well yeah. 2000 01:57:01,600 --> 01:57:06,100 Right you know I'll negotiate with you as soon as you 2001 01:57:06,100 --> 01:57:08,200 completely disarmed. And give up. 2002 01:57:08,200 --> 01:57:10,700 Yeah. Well and then that has held 2003 01:57:10,900 --> 01:57:13,500 throughout w--, Bush throughout Barack Obama. 2004 01:57:14,300 --> 01:57:16,100 And then Donald Trump wanted to make a deal. 2005 01:57:16,400 --> 01:57:20,400 He was ratcheting up tensions clearly so that he could trade 2006 01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:25,100 them away. And he had a really positive 2007 01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:29,900 South Korean president to work with a guy named Moon and moon 2008 01:57:29,900 --> 01:57:31,600 wanted to strike a deal with the North. 2009 01:57:31,600 --> 01:57:35,800 Korea's Trump saw this as a potential for a real win, so he 2010 01:57:35,800 --> 01:57:37,700 went completely around his own government, he met with the 2011 01:57:37,700 --> 01:57:40,100 South Koreans and they were like, please give us a chance at 2012 01:57:40,100 --> 01:57:43,000 this and he was okay. Tell you what, go? 2013 01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:45,600 Right outside to the driveway and give a press conference 2014 01:57:45,600 --> 01:57:47,900 right now. And tell them that I told you go 2015 01:57:47,900 --> 01:57:50,500 ahead. Which is smart because the US 2016 01:57:50,500 --> 01:57:52,300 government rest of the government would have stopped it 2017 01:57:52,300 --> 01:57:54,700 from happening but so he did that. 2018 01:57:55,300 --> 01:57:59,500 And then so Trump got behind him and they were negotiating. 2019 01:57:59,500 --> 01:58:02,700 And instead of saying you have to disarm first, they said no 2020 01:58:02,700 --> 01:58:05,100 this we're going to do this in a way that makes sense to any 2021 01:58:05,100 --> 01:58:08,500 rational adults mind. We're going to have an actual 2022 01:58:08,500 --> 01:58:13,700 piece tree to officially end the war from 1950 to where we only 2023 01:58:13,700 --> 01:58:15,400 have a ceasefire still to this day. 2024 01:58:15,700 --> 01:58:17,100 I'm gonna have a real peace deal. 2025 01:58:18,100 --> 01:58:20,900 And then we're going to open up commercial and trade relations 2026 01:58:21,200 --> 01:58:24,100 between the North and the South and the Americans then would 2027 01:58:24,100 --> 01:58:26,800 have to give real security guarantees. 2028 01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:28,900 Now, a lot of times their security guarantees relies but 2029 01:58:28,900 --> 01:58:31,700 then again, sometimes they really stick like Jack Kennedy's 2030 01:58:31,700 --> 01:58:35,500 promised not to invade Cuba and to get his missiles out of 2031 01:58:35,500 --> 01:58:37,400 turkey. In order to solve the Cuban 2032 01:58:37,400 --> 01:58:40,800 Missile Crisis, those promises stuck and we have an invading 2033 01:58:40,800 --> 01:58:43,200 Cuba and all this time. It's still a commie dictatorship 2034 01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,500 and we haven't done a regime change there this whole time I 2035 01:58:45,500 --> 01:58:47,700 guess just because Jack Kennedy promised. 2036 01:58:48,100 --> 01:58:50,000 Not that promise has meant something. 2037 01:58:50,300 --> 01:58:56,000 So it wasn't a treaty just like I promised not to expand. 2038 01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:59,800 NATO wasn't a treaty. So what it was a solemn promise 2039 01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,600 and your word is supposed to mean something if anybody 2040 01:59:02,600 --> 01:59:04,100 Washington DC's, ever heard of that. 2041 01:59:04,100 --> 01:59:11,200 But anyway, then what happened was the Israelis insisted that 2042 01:59:11,900 --> 01:59:13,800 Donald Trump hired. John Bolton, the be his National 2043 01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:18,200 Security advisor and then he still, it was only his All I 2044 01:59:18,208 --> 01:59:20,600 needed still didn't have to bring him to the negotiations 2045 01:59:20,600 --> 01:59:23,100 with the North Koreans Trump. Ali didn't even know, this is 2046 01:59:23,100 --> 01:59:25,800 the guy who ruined everything the first place in the first 2047 01:59:25,800 --> 01:59:28,000 place. So not only did he bring him, 2048 01:59:28,000 --> 01:59:30,200 but he let him sit right at the head of the table to right next 2049 01:59:30,200 --> 01:59:33,300 to the head of the table at his right hand in the negotiations. 2050 01:59:33,300 --> 01:59:35,900 I believe it was in, I forget if it was in Singapore, Saigon 2051 01:59:35,900 --> 01:59:41,500 which one was first or second, but and then Bolton just ruined 2052 01:59:41,500 --> 01:59:43,400 everything. There was a guy named Stephen 2053 01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:46,100 began that worked for Trump who had given a speech at Heritage 2054 01:59:46,100 --> 01:59:49,700 that said, come on, we're not. Adam and denuclearization first, 2055 01:59:49,700 --> 01:59:51,300 we're never going to get a deal that way. 2056 01:59:51,800 --> 01:59:54,600 Well, if Trump had put Steven begun at the table with him 2057 01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:55,800 there, they could have handled it. 2058 01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:59,500 They could have done it. And of course, the Democrats in 2059 01:59:59,500 --> 02:00:02,600 their essentially, their treason against the American people, and 2060 02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,800 Against Humanity. Here, retirement nuclear weapons 2061 02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:08,000 issues here. Instead of supporting Donald 2062 02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:12,700 Trump's diplomacy, they absolutely castigated him. 2063 02:00:12,800 --> 02:00:16,400 And the narrative came down, I guess from Langley or wherever 2064 02:00:16,600 --> 02:00:18,900 just say that. Kim jong-eun. 2065 02:00:19,600 --> 02:00:25,100 It's so wildly and Brilliant. He's gonna walk all over Donald 2066 02:00:25,100 --> 02:00:27,700 Trump and Donald Trump is so stupid. 2067 02:00:27,700 --> 02:00:30,800 That he's just gonna give away the whole store which nobody 2068 02:00:30,800 --> 02:00:33,100 even knows what that man. I mean, how Bill Clinton was 2069 02:00:33,100 --> 02:00:36,000 going to give them light water, reactors and money, and fuel oil 2070 02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:39,700 and anything to keep the peace. Oh, no, Donald Trump, he's just 2071 02:00:39,700 --> 02:00:43,600 going to give them Alaska, I guess, you know, in order to 2072 02:00:44,000 --> 02:00:47,900 claim that he has the victory here so they framed it in it's 2073 02:00:47,900 --> 02:00:52,400 most absolutely - way and then the Democrats held hearings that 2074 02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:59,800 day were they made his lawyer testify against and I forgot his 2075 02:00:59,800 --> 02:01:02,300 lawyers name, the real scumbag from New York guy, you know, 2076 02:01:02,300 --> 02:01:06,400 Michael Cohen, Michael Cohen in Michael Cohen testify that it's 2077 02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:09,900 a right as they're negotiating. He's got like in his other ear 2078 02:01:09,900 --> 02:01:12,200 like updates of what's going on in the hearings. 2079 02:01:12,200 --> 02:01:15,000 What CNN saying about me and blah blah blah blah the whole 2080 02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:17,000 time. And so they they really with 2081 02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,700 that pressure And then with bolt in there with him, they ruin the 2082 02:01:19,700 --> 02:01:21,400 damn deal. And then the second time they 2083 02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:26,400 met, he got smart and he quite literally Keith sent John Bolton 2084 02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:31,600 to outer Mongolia. But then it was too late and he 2085 02:01:31,600 --> 02:01:33,800 I don't think he brought Steven began with him and then for 2086 02:01:33,800 --> 02:01:37,200 whatever reasons, the deal still broke down and they still 2087 02:01:37,200 --> 02:01:39,900 accused him that he was going to give away the whole store in 2088 02:01:39,900 --> 02:01:42,200 order to get a deal. So that was his closest. 2089 02:01:42,200 --> 02:01:44,600 We could have possibly come to having a piece and then what's 2090 02:01:44,600 --> 02:01:47,600 Biden's position? Go to hell, North Korea. 2091 02:01:47,800 --> 02:01:50,900 When we won't even talk to you, until you give up your nooks. 2092 02:01:51,100 --> 02:01:54,500 And so, as we're recording this, Keith yesterday, they fired, 2093 02:01:54,500 --> 02:01:58,400 something like 20 missiles into the sea, in a show of force, and 2094 02:01:58,400 --> 02:02:03,600 this This is you know where our refusal to negotiate refusal to 2095 02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:08,200 act and diplomatic fashion is leading to a threat of a war. 2096 02:02:08,200 --> 02:02:11,200 I mean, literally the by government has us not 2097 02:02:11,200 --> 02:02:15,200 necessarily active at the brink but nearing the brink of war 2098 02:02:15,600 --> 02:02:20,500 with North Korea and China, and really Iran to there. 2099 02:02:20,500 --> 02:02:23,500 Seem to be picking a fight with her on every chance they can get 2100 02:02:23,500 --> 02:02:27,300 while they literally do have us at the brink of war with Russia 2101 02:02:27,700 --> 02:02:30,200 as We incredible. I mean, Joe Biden. 2102 02:02:31,200 --> 02:02:34,800 He is the worst president than George w-- Bush and remember the 2103 02:02:34,800 --> 02:02:37,100 worst thing the George W bush ever did. 2104 02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:39,800 He only did because Joe Biden helped him do it. 2105 02:02:39,900 --> 02:02:42,200 The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee at 2106 02:02:42,200 --> 02:02:46,000 the time in the hands of the opposition party and he was 2107 02:02:46,000 --> 02:02:49,800 George Bush's, co-conspirator no less guilty. 2108 02:02:50,200 --> 02:02:55,200 Then the vice president or the secretary of defense, or the 2109 02:02:55,200 --> 02:02:58,400 deputy secretary of defense Paul wolfowitz or Richard. 2110 02:02:58,600 --> 02:03:01,700 Pearl or Bill kristol or the worst ringleaders of that war. 2111 02:03:01,900 --> 02:03:05,000 Joe Biden's was just as responsible as all of them for 2112 02:03:05,000 --> 02:03:08,600 it. Now, one of the best ways that 2113 02:03:08,600 --> 02:03:13,100 I've seen people see through the lies of current Wars is to 2114 02:03:13,100 --> 02:03:17,300 understand, previous deceptions that we have lived. 2115 02:03:17,300 --> 02:03:20,300 Under unfortunately, you wrote a book titled enough already time 2116 02:03:20,300 --> 02:03:22,900 to end the war on terrorism where you go through a lot of 2117 02:03:22,900 --> 02:03:25,100 these. I want to do sort of a lightning 2118 02:03:25,100 --> 02:03:27,600 round. Give me as much or as little on 2119 02:03:27,600 --> 02:03:30,900 each of these topics. Members of the libertarian party 2120 02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,500 need to have a grip on as well as all Americans. 2121 02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:37,200 What do Americans need to know about the israel-palestine 2122 02:03:37,200 --> 02:03:40,400 conflict? Well, this is a very tough one. 2123 02:03:40,400 --> 02:03:44,100 Obviously the libertarian party's take needs to always, 2124 02:03:44,100 --> 02:03:50,700 simply be non intervention. And, and, you know, I, we like 2125 02:03:50,700 --> 02:03:53,800 to probably see the Israelis live up to their obligations 2126 02:03:53,800 --> 02:03:56,900 under international law, but we absolutely should not be 2127 02:03:56,900 --> 02:04:01,100 supporting Israel. Or any other state on the face 2128 02:04:01,100 --> 02:04:05,300 of the planet but their sins are particularly egregious. 2129 02:04:05,700 --> 02:04:07,200 Keith. It's hard for people to 2130 02:04:07,200 --> 02:04:09,400 recognize Paseo way and why are you singling out? 2131 02:04:09,400 --> 02:04:11,700 Israel? Annoys has its rules in a fairly 2132 02:04:11,700 --> 02:04:13,600 unique position. There are other states in the 2133 02:04:13,608 --> 02:04:17,200 world where you have a lot of ethnic, repression and problems 2134 02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:19,800 going on like in Bhutan or wherever. 2135 02:04:21,300 --> 02:04:25,100 But, you know, these rallies are extremely close to the United 2136 02:04:25,100 --> 02:04:28,400 States supported and protected by the United States in. 2137 02:04:28,600 --> 02:04:32,400 Way. And yet they horribly mystery 2138 02:04:32,700 --> 02:04:36,400 the Palestinian people and keep. The thing is about this issue, 2139 02:04:36,500 --> 02:04:41,000 is it made deliberately to be confusing. 2140 02:04:41,600 --> 02:04:46,400 It sounds a lot of time like Palestine is the country next 2141 02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:50,400 door to Israel and it's run by these terrorists like Yasser 2142 02:04:50,400 --> 02:04:53,800 Arafat or moss and they're always attacking Israel and 2143 02:04:53,800 --> 02:04:57,100 they're always threatening them and trying to extort land out of 2144 02:04:57,100 --> 02:04:58,400 them. O land for peace. 2145 02:04:58,500 --> 02:05:00,000 Peace. In other words, unless the 2146 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:02,800 Israelis give up some of their land to these terrorists. 2147 02:05:02,800 --> 02:05:04,600 The terrorists are going to keep coming at them. 2148 02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:07,900 And so then, the Americans are demanding that the unfairly 2149 02:05:07,900 --> 02:05:10,900 demanding that the Israelis bow down to this terrorist pressure. 2150 02:05:10,900 --> 02:05:13,900 These kinds of things, but then that is confusing, right? 2151 02:05:13,900 --> 02:05:16,800 Because you also hear all the time that maybe one day, there 2152 02:05:16,800 --> 02:05:20,400 will be a two-state solution. Well what does that mean? 2153 02:05:21,000 --> 02:05:23,200 Well, that means it's not the country next door at all the 2154 02:05:23,208 --> 02:05:25,800 country. Next door is Jordan on the other 2155 02:05:25,800 --> 02:05:28,400 side of the river, where is Palace? 2156 02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:32,000 Fine. Israel's on top of it, that's 2157 02:05:32,000 --> 02:05:35,700 where it is. That's what that area is called, 2158 02:05:35,700 --> 02:05:39,600 was called. And now, it's a break it down 2159 02:05:39,700 --> 02:05:46,000 fairly simply here in 1947 and 1948, the Israelis waves, a 2160 02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:49,100 massive ethnic cleansing campaign that kicked about 2161 02:05:49,100 --> 02:05:54,300 750,000 Israelis out of their homes and off of the land. 2162 02:05:54,300 --> 02:05:57,700 That became what we now call Israel, proper or you'll hear 2163 02:05:57,700 --> 02:06:02,100 referred to To as you know, inside the green line, people 2164 02:06:02,100 --> 02:06:06,600 say, 67 borders, okay? That's because in 67 there was 2165 02:06:06,600 --> 02:06:11,700 another major war and the Israelis took the Gaza Strip on 2166 02:06:11,700 --> 02:06:16,100 the Mediterranean Coast bordering Egypt and they took 2167 02:06:16,100 --> 02:06:19,700 the West Bank of the Jordan River, which had been under the 2168 02:06:19,700 --> 02:06:21,900 control of Jordan, ever since the secret deal. 2169 02:06:21,900 --> 02:06:25,900 The Israelis had made with the King of Jordan back in 48, that 2170 02:06:25,900 --> 02:06:29,500 he would take that land. So that the Could not have an 2171 02:06:29,500 --> 02:06:34,200 independent state on it now, 20 years later they come and they 2172 02:06:34,200 --> 02:06:38,300 take that Land from the jordanians and they did kick 2173 02:06:38,300 --> 02:06:42,500 about 250,000 of the Palestinians out of their homes. 2174 02:06:43,100 --> 02:06:46,400 But that's essentially a remainder because they kept 2175 02:06:46,400 --> 02:06:50,800 Millions. So in 1948, when they cleanse 2176 02:06:50,800 --> 02:06:55,600 the land keep, they had created something like an 80/20 super 2177 02:06:55,600 --> 02:07:00,000 duper majority Jewish state So they could say, we're Jewish 2178 02:07:00,000 --> 02:07:04,900 State and a democracy, and the Palestinian citizens of Israel 2179 02:07:05,500 --> 02:07:09,500 have something like second-class citizens, but they are citizens, 2180 02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:14,700 but they have a very small, you know, one fifth of the 2181 02:07:14,700 --> 02:07:20,100 population and up until very recently only the last Israeli 2182 02:07:20,100 --> 02:07:22,400 government. They had always been excluded 2183 02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:26,200 from any ruling Coalition. So there never participants in 2184 02:07:26,200 --> 02:07:29,200 the actual administration of the government in A parliamentary 2185 02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:34,000 system there. But then in 67, when they took 2186 02:07:34,000 --> 02:07:36,800 the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, they kept that land and 2187 02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:40,600 they kept all those people. Now they have millions of 2188 02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:43,400 Palestinians, never mind. All the ones living in refugee 2189 02:07:43,400 --> 02:07:46,500 camps, all over the Middle East. But now you have millions of 2190 02:07:46,500 --> 02:07:51,500 Palestinians who are essentially the subjects of the Israeli 2191 02:07:51,500 --> 02:07:56,000 state but have absolutely no representation whatsoever. 2192 02:07:56,100 --> 02:07:59,500 You hear the Palestinian Authority, As though that's a 2193 02:07:59,500 --> 02:08:01,900 government. But those are really trustees 2194 02:08:01,900 --> 02:08:04,600 and Israeli prison. The West Bank is essentially an 2195 02:08:04,600 --> 02:08:10,200 open air concentration camp and it's one that Israeli settlers 2196 02:08:10,600 --> 02:08:14,300 quite in contravention of the international law that the USA 2197 02:08:14,300 --> 02:08:16,000 has foisted on the rest of the world. 2198 02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:20,400 Since World War Two, continue to gobble up, and occupy and build 2199 02:08:20,400 --> 02:08:26,400 settlements all across that West Bank, especially so when you 2200 02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:29,500 hear about that two-state solution, What you're hearing 2201 02:08:29,500 --> 02:08:34,100 really is a two-state illusion for the past 40 years. 2202 02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:37,100 Well, if 35 40 years they've promised. 2203 02:08:37,100 --> 02:08:40,100 Yeah, I mean really since 79 says Camp David in 79. 2204 02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:45,200 So for 45 years, they have promised that there will be an 2205 02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:48,900 independent Palestinian state in the West Bank and the Gaza 2206 02:08:48,900 --> 02:08:54,700 Strip, but someday Never Comes. And so instead of giving the 2207 02:08:54,700 --> 02:08:58,600 Palestinians equal rights as citizens of Israel, regardless 2208 02:08:58,600 --> 02:09:02,400 of their religion they say no we can continue to discriminate 2209 02:09:02,400 --> 02:09:06,000 against them because it's just temporary because soon there 2210 02:09:06,000 --> 02:09:09,900 will be this Palestinian state but they're never will. 2211 02:09:10,300 --> 02:09:13,000 And now, of course, the settlers, the Israeli Jewish 2212 02:09:13,000 --> 02:09:17,100 settlers have occupied enough of the West Bank that it would 2213 02:09:17,100 --> 02:09:20,800 cause a civil war within Israel. If the Army was ever sent to 2214 02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:24,100 pull them out of there, It's hundreds and hundreds of 2215 02:09:24,100 --> 02:09:27,000 thousands more than half a million Israeli Jewish settlers. 2216 02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:30,800 Now occupy, you know, civilians live in the West Bank. 2217 02:09:31,100 --> 02:09:36,400 So they have already defacto annexed this territory, it can 2218 02:09:36,400 --> 02:09:39,900 never, and will never be an independent state. 2219 02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:43,100 So, now, let me try to make an analogy for you. 2220 02:09:43,100 --> 02:09:46,500 Here, you here all the time, Ben Shapiro, for example, will say, 2221 02:09:47,900 --> 02:09:52,300 Well, Hamas is firing Rockets from Gaza into Israel. 2222 02:09:52,700 --> 02:09:56,200 Well what would we do if the Mexicans were firing Rockets 2223 02:09:56,200 --> 02:09:59,500 over the Rio Grande into Texas? Well, first of all, you see what 2224 02:09:59,500 --> 02:10:02,100 he's doing there, right? As he's saying, the Mexicans, 2225 02:10:02,100 --> 02:10:06,100 instead of some Mexicans by saying the Mexicans, he means 2226 02:10:06,100 --> 02:10:11,500 the national Mexican Army. The Palestinians do not have the 2227 02:10:11,500 --> 02:10:15,700 Palestinians are just some Palestinians, they're not the 2228 02:10:15,700 --> 02:10:17,400 Palestinians because there is no state. 2229 02:10:18,100 --> 02:10:21,400 Right. That's doing the fighting and 2230 02:10:21,700 --> 02:10:27,400 the line between Gaza and Israel is not a border if it was a 2231 02:10:27,400 --> 02:10:30,800 border the Palestinians would have their independence day. 2232 02:10:31,700 --> 02:10:34,900 What that line? Much more closely represents 2233 02:10:34,900 --> 02:10:39,600 would be the borders of an Indian Reservation here, inside 2234 02:10:39,600 --> 02:10:43,600 the United States of America. Not Mexicans firing Rockets over 2235 02:10:43,600 --> 02:10:47,400 the Rio Grande, but maybe the Navajo firing Rockets over. 2236 02:10:47,500 --> 02:10:51,900 A wall that we build around them out in Arizona and say, you 2237 02:10:51,900 --> 02:10:56,200 know, not only are you, you know, bound to this reservation 2238 02:10:56,200 --> 02:10:58,800 but we're building a wall around it and you're not allowed to 2239 02:10:58,800 --> 02:11:01,900 trade, you're not allowed to do anything and literally turn the 2240 02:11:01,900 --> 02:11:04,500 thing into a prison. And then they're firing Rockets 2241 02:11:04,500 --> 02:11:07,600 over those walls. Well, that's a hell of a lot 2242 02:11:07,600 --> 02:11:11,700 different and it's a hell of a lot more active, an analogy than 2243 02:11:11,700 --> 02:11:15,900 the kind of BS, that Ben Shapiro, and American Defenders 2244 02:11:15,900 --> 02:11:19,200 of Israel like to shove On that issue. 2245 02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:24,100 And I think another very apt comparison and this hits home 2246 02:11:24,100 --> 02:11:27,500 for me because I'm a Texan and I was raised on this history and 2247 02:11:27,500 --> 02:11:31,300 people from the South especially know about the history of Jim 2248 02:11:31,300 --> 02:11:35,200 Crow. Segregation would imagine if 2249 02:11:35,200 --> 02:11:39,000 saying Mississippi where I believe I could be wrong about 2250 02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:42,300 this, but I'm pretty sure that in Mississippi the vast majority 2251 02:11:42,300 --> 02:11:46,600 of the black population live in the northern half of the state 2252 02:11:46,600 --> 02:11:50,100 and certainly they did Did if you go back a generation or two 2253 02:11:51,100 --> 02:11:55,700 during Jim Crow here? Well what if when the during the 2254 02:11:55,700 --> 02:12:00,500 Civil Rights era when Jim Crow was being abolished? 2255 02:12:00,700 --> 02:12:03,600 What if Mississippi had said? No no no we're keeping 2256 02:12:03,600 --> 02:12:07,600 segregation but don't worry. Eventually we're going to give 2257 02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:09,900 the blacks their own independent state. 2258 02:12:10,400 --> 02:12:13,600 We're going to let them break off a few counties of northern 2259 02:12:13,600 --> 02:12:16,900 Mississippi and so then that'll be the two-state. 2260 02:12:18,300 --> 02:12:21,400 And we won't be oppressing them anymore because they'll be 2261 02:12:21,400 --> 02:12:24,200 independent from us. And so we don't have to 2262 02:12:24,300 --> 02:12:27,300 integrate the schools. We don't have to legalize black 2263 02:12:27,300 --> 02:12:30,100 people drinking from water fountains and sharing bathrooms 2264 02:12:30,100 --> 02:12:33,000 and eating at lunch, counters, and all of these things, like in 2265 02:12:33,000 --> 02:12:36,500 the Supreme Court decisions, because trust is don't worry, 2266 02:12:36,500 --> 02:12:40,100 someday, we're going to have a two-state solution but then, 2267 02:12:40,100 --> 02:12:44,500 someday never comes. And now it's the 2020s and the 2268 02:12:44,500 --> 02:12:47,800 blacks of northern Mississippi, still live under Jim Jim Crow 2269 02:12:47,800 --> 02:12:51,800 segregation. That's essentially a far more, 2270 02:12:51,800 --> 02:12:57,400 again, far more apt analogy than the kind of BS that Ben Shapiro, 2271 02:12:57,400 --> 02:13:00,900 has to lie and try to fool and deceive his audience into 2272 02:13:00,900 --> 02:13:04,000 believing. Because the truth does not serve 2273 02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:08,700 Zionist purposes here. They have to lie, they have to 2274 02:13:08,700 --> 02:13:12,100 pretend that somehow. The Palestinians are the ones 2275 02:13:12,100 --> 02:13:14,900 occupying them. The Palestinians are somehow, 2276 02:13:14,900 --> 02:13:17,400 the ones extorting them out of there. 2277 02:13:17,600 --> 02:13:20,800 Al, and when that's a damn lie, and anyone, all you have to do 2278 02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:23,800 is just think about it. Look at who's the ruling caste 2279 02:13:23,800 --> 02:13:27,300 of the Israelis. They're Europeans with white 2280 02:13:27,300 --> 02:13:29,200 skin. They look like you and me, 2281 02:13:29,700 --> 02:13:35,100 they're not from there. This is the last great gasp of 2282 02:13:35,100 --> 02:13:40,600 European colonialism after World War 2, when it's being phased 2283 02:13:40,600 --> 02:13:44,600 out everywhere else in the world and the idea was well they're 2284 02:13:44,600 --> 02:13:47,000 just a bunch of a rabb's, a bunch of sand. 2285 02:13:47,000 --> 02:13:50,600 And Words, a bunch of towel, heads and camel jockeys. 2286 02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:54,300 And if our friends the white European Jews who hey need a 2287 02:13:54,300 --> 02:14:01,000 place to go, want to go there, then the natives are just going 2288 02:14:01,000 --> 02:14:06,200 to have to lump It, screw them. But the problem is that, that 2289 02:14:06,200 --> 02:14:10,000 truly is the thinking of a pre-World War, Two generation 2290 02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:12,500 that there's such a thing really, as these racial 2291 02:14:12,500 --> 02:14:17,900 hierarchies that are legitimate somehow and, and Can be 2292 02:14:17,900 --> 02:14:21,200 implemented without shame, that's just not true. 2293 02:14:21,900 --> 02:14:26,500 The Jewish people are not more special than the Palestinian 2294 02:14:26,500 --> 02:14:28,500 people. No matter what their own 2295 02:14:28,500 --> 02:14:32,100 mythology says. And in fact, if you study Shlomo 2296 02:14:32,100 --> 02:14:35,600 Sands and the invention of the state of Israel and all of that, 2297 02:14:35,600 --> 02:14:39,000 he shows that the Roman Exile never happened. 2298 02:14:39,800 --> 02:14:43,100 So yes, Ashkenazi Jews. Can't race in many cases their 2299 02:14:43,100 --> 02:14:49,600 lineage back to Palestine. Through, you know, RNA or was 2300 02:14:49,600 --> 02:14:53,000 the mitochondrial RNA, or whatever this that I don't know, 2301 02:14:53,400 --> 02:14:56,300 but fine. But that doesn't mean that all 2302 02:14:56,300 --> 02:15:00,100 of the ancient Hebrews were exiled by the Romans out of 2303 02:15:00,100 --> 02:15:03,600 their territory. That is just a myth that never 2304 02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:06,700 happened at all. And guess what? 2305 02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:12,400 They were never cleansed from that area by anyone else either 2306 02:15:12,700 --> 02:15:18,800 for two thousand years until The state of Israel in 1947 and you 2307 02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:23,300 know what that means, that means that the Palestinians are the 2308 02:15:23,300 --> 02:15:28,100 descendants of Abraham and Moses and if you believe all that 2309 02:15:28,100 --> 02:15:32,300 stuff from the religious texts about how this land belongs to 2310 02:15:32,300 --> 02:15:36,300 the sons of those, that God promised it to 3,000 years ago. 2311 02:15:36,600 --> 02:15:41,000 It's not a bunch of Ashkenazi Jews from Lithuania and Russia 2312 02:15:41,000 --> 02:15:45,000 and Germany, and Brooklyn New York. 2313 02:15:45,700 --> 02:15:50,000 It's the Palestinians and what had happened was and she'll the 2314 02:15:50,000 --> 02:15:51,800 Richmond is written. All about this, as well. 2315 02:15:52,600 --> 02:15:55,800 They just changed their religion because the Muslims said either 2316 02:15:55,800 --> 02:15:58,300 convert or you have to pay taxes. 2317 02:15:59,000 --> 02:16:04,100 So they said we're Muslims now. And instead of instead, and they 2318 02:16:04,100 --> 02:16:06,400 weren't run off by the Romans, they weren't run off by the 2319 02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:10,600 Muslims, they just converted. And so literally, it's the 2320 02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:15,300 Palestinians who even if you go by the supernatural property, 2321 02:16:15,500 --> 02:16:19,200 It's of the Bible rather than the plain old natural property 2322 02:16:19,200 --> 02:16:23,100 rights of the people who had worked that land for eons. 2323 02:16:23,500 --> 02:16:27,000 Still, it's the Palestinians rightful territory and the idea. 2324 02:16:27,000 --> 02:16:31,000 I mean, look at the guy who was just now again, the once, and 2325 02:16:31,000 --> 02:16:35,799 twice and now future again. Prime minister of Israel is from 2326 02:16:35,799 --> 02:16:41,700 Lithuania. He has no claim to one acre of 2327 02:16:41,700 --> 02:16:48,299 that land and only a religious like Zealot or a dishonest man 2328 02:16:48,400 --> 02:16:53,500 could claim that he does. If you, if you accept that 2329 02:16:53,500 --> 02:16:58,400 American Jews, have a natural and Harris Supernatural, 2330 02:16:58,400 --> 02:17:03,900 inherent property right to go to live in Palestine. 2331 02:17:04,400 --> 02:17:09,900 That supersedes the right of an actual Palestinian, whose father 2332 02:17:09,900 --> 02:17:12,400 and grandfather and great grandfather and great, great 2333 02:17:12,400 --> 02:17:15,900 grandfather, actually tilled that land, then you have to 2334 02:17:15,900 --> 02:17:21,500 believe that Sicilian Catholics in New Jersey, Have the right to 2335 02:17:21,500 --> 02:17:25,900 go and invade Sicily and kill Sicilians and force them off 2336 02:17:25,900 --> 02:17:30,000 their land, and take over their homes because they were from 2337 02:17:30,000 --> 02:17:32,400 here. So we have the right thing to 2338 02:17:32,400 --> 02:17:35,900 come and use violence to take property away. 2339 02:17:35,900 --> 02:17:38,900 He'll you would have to side with the Germans, right? 2340 02:17:38,900 --> 02:17:43,400 To conquer Eastern Europe, land of the Teutons, where the German 2341 02:17:43,400 --> 02:17:48,400 race originates from eons ago, is that the argument that the 2342 02:17:48,400 --> 02:17:51,900 Germans had the right to invade and create all that lebensraum 2343 02:17:51,900 --> 02:17:54,500 and Eastern Europe, because that's supposedly where the Huns 2344 02:17:54,500 --> 02:17:59,100 originated, No, that's a bunch of crap, isn't it? 2345 02:17:59,500 --> 02:18:02,100 Well, same thing. It's a bunch of crap when the 2346 02:18:02,100 --> 02:18:06,900 Israelis do it to the Palestinians to What is it that 2347 02:18:07,000 --> 02:18:09,299 Americans need to know about the conflict? 2348 02:18:09,299 --> 02:18:12,000 In Yemen, is some lightning round, huh? 2349 02:18:13,200 --> 02:18:17,100 Looking Yemen, Obama started in 2009. 2350 02:18:17,100 --> 02:18:19,900 He ordered the CIA and Air Force to do a massive drone War, to 2351 02:18:19,900 --> 02:18:22,900 try to kill aqap. It didn't work, it just 2352 02:18:22,900 --> 02:18:25,700 backfired and by killing innocent people. 2353 02:18:25,700 --> 02:18:28,600 You know, they said a drone strike is a surgical strike with 2354 02:18:28,600 --> 02:18:30,100 a scalpel. Let's not true. 2355 02:18:30,100 --> 02:18:33,200 It's a 500-pound bomb or even a Hellfire missile, you taking on 2356 02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:35,299 a car full of people. 500 pound bomb. 2357 02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:38,799 Taking out a building full of people and that, of course, only 2358 02:18:38,799 --> 02:18:41,000 radicalizes more. It's even Stanley. 2359 02:18:41,000 --> 02:18:43,400 McChrystal said Insurgent math, he killed two. 2360 02:18:43,400 --> 02:18:46,000 You get 20 more and that's all the word did. 2361 02:18:47,100 --> 02:18:50,900 But now in order to wage that war Obama had to bribe the 2362 02:18:50,900 --> 02:18:54,799 dictator of Yemen Abdullah Saleh with guns and money to let him 2363 02:18:54,799 --> 02:18:56,600 wage that war that's in the south of Yemen. 2364 02:18:56,600 --> 02:19:01,600 The anti Al-Qaeda were well. Solid takes the money weapons 2365 02:19:01,700 --> 02:19:04,100 and he wages war against his enemies. 2366 02:19:04,400 --> 02:19:08,799 A group of Shiites called the houthis a tribe called the 2367 02:19:08,799 --> 02:19:12,799 houthis in the north and he in fact is playing a double game 2368 02:19:12,799 --> 02:19:15,000 against the Americans because he's backing the Muslim 2369 02:19:15,000 --> 02:19:19,000 Brotherhood and Al-Qaeda to Use as exhilarates with his army to 2370 02:19:19,000 --> 02:19:21,400 attack these Shiite houthis in the north. 2371 02:19:21,500 --> 02:19:24,200 Well it doesn't work maybe because he's playing a triple 2372 02:19:24,200 --> 02:19:25,700 game. He's actually arming the houthis 2373 02:19:25,700 --> 02:19:28,400 against its own Army and against al Qaeda. 2374 02:19:28,600 --> 02:19:30,700 And the Muslim Brotherhood that he's playing a double game 2375 02:19:30,700 --> 02:19:33,900 against us and backing, because he was afraid of his own Army 2376 02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:35,900 and was kind of wearing them out a little bit. 2377 02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:39,100 So anyway every time he attacked the houthis, they grew more and 2378 02:19:39,100 --> 02:19:43,700 more powerful in response. Then comes the Arab Spring and 2379 02:19:43,700 --> 02:19:46,000 there's while I mean sorry, peaceful and successful 2380 02:19:46,000 --> 02:19:48,600 revolutions. In Tunisia and Egypt. 2381 02:19:48,700 --> 02:19:51,400 So all across the Middle East they break out in a day of Rage 2382 02:19:51,400 --> 02:19:55,200 protests and all these things well in it was the Pearl 2383 02:19:55,200 --> 02:19:58,900 roundabout is what is called the kind of town square there in 2384 02:19:59,600 --> 02:20:01,500 Sanaa. Yemen were virtually all 2385 02:20:01,500 --> 02:20:04,600 factions the houthis, the Muslim Brotherhood, the southern 2386 02:20:04,600 --> 02:20:06,900 socialists and everybody, I don't know about the al-Qaeda 2387 02:20:06,900 --> 02:20:09,600 guys, but virtually everyone else came together and said, 2388 02:20:09,600 --> 02:20:14,100 let's form a new government with overthrow Salah and create a new 2389 02:20:14,100 --> 02:20:16,700 state. Well, he refused to go. 2390 02:20:16,900 --> 02:20:20,000 Go, somebody tried to kill him. He was wounded in a bombing. 2391 02:20:20,200 --> 02:20:23,100 So we had to go to Saudi Arabia to the hospital and while he was 2392 02:20:23,100 --> 02:20:26,600 gone, Hillary Clinton, the Secretary of State swooped in 2393 02:20:26,800 --> 02:20:30,600 and worked with the Saudis to prevent the people of Yemen from 2394 02:20:30,600 --> 02:20:33,100 preceding. Their Own Way Forward under 2395 02:20:33,100 --> 02:20:37,500 their own plan and insisted that they keep the vice president 2396 02:20:37,600 --> 02:20:41,500 hottie who had no real popular support and they held a big fake 2397 02:20:41,500 --> 02:20:43,900 election with one man and one name on the ballot and I could 2398 02:20:43,900 --> 02:20:47,600 look it up in Google Images. Salah election, 2012 Well, there 2399 02:20:47,600 --> 02:20:52,000 is even MPR news, covered it one man, one name, one face on the 2400 02:20:52,008 --> 02:20:55,300 ballot, one oval to fill in, in your presidential election. 2401 02:20:55,300 --> 02:20:57,800 Hillary Clinton declared, this was the Advent of the many 2402 02:20:57,800 --> 02:21:01,700 democracy. Well, he was a terrible dictator 2403 02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:05,700 and he made all kinds of moves that undermine, whatever, 2404 02:21:05,700 --> 02:21:10,400 support that he had. And when Salah came home from 2405 02:21:10,400 --> 02:21:14,200 the hospital, he didn't go and retired to a quiet life of 2406 02:21:14,200 --> 02:21:16,400 study, like, mullah Omar the Taliban leader. 2407 02:21:17,000 --> 02:21:19,900 He went away Matt and he went and joined forces with the 2408 02:21:19,900 --> 02:21:21,300 houthis, it turns out. Guess what? 2409 02:21:21,300 --> 02:21:23,300 He was a Sadie, she I just like them. 2410 02:21:23,800 --> 02:21:27,100 And so even though not a houthi and so he joined up with them 2411 02:21:27,200 --> 02:21:30,600 and in the year 2014 they marched down on the capital 2412 02:21:30,600 --> 02:21:33,300 city. At the end of 2014, they seize 2413 02:21:33,300 --> 02:21:36,600 the capital city of Siena the houthis and Saleh and they 2414 02:21:36,600 --> 02:21:41,100 chased hottie the vice president down to Aden the port city, 2415 02:21:41,100 --> 02:21:44,400 where the USS Cole was bombed in 2000 and then eventually all the 2416 02:21:44,408 --> 02:21:48,400 way to Saudi Arabia. Now when this first happened, 2417 02:21:48,400 --> 02:21:52,400 importantly, Keith our current Secretary of Defense Lloyd, 2418 02:21:52,400 --> 02:21:55,600 Austin was then the four-star general commander of Central 2419 02:21:55,600 --> 02:22:00,200 Command and he made a deal with the houthis to the al-Qaeda 2420 02:22:00,200 --> 02:22:03,000 guys, the only good Shiite is the dead Shiite. 2421 02:22:03,500 --> 02:22:06,000 So to the houthis, the only good Al-Qaeda. 2422 02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:09,000 Guys are dead. Al-Qaeda guy Hayes purely self 2423 02:22:09,000 --> 02:22:12,600 defensive type of a thing. So Lloyd Austin was like oh you 2424 02:22:12,600 --> 02:22:16,600 guys like killing Al-Qaeda guys, let's work together. 2425 02:22:17,700 --> 02:22:20,800 They said, fine, the Wall Street Journal and I'll monitor both 2426 02:22:20,800 --> 02:22:24,900 reported on this in January of 2015, and the houthis confirmed 2427 02:22:24,900 --> 02:22:27,000 two. Americans were giving them 2428 02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:28,900 intelligence to use to Target and kill. 2429 02:22:28,900 --> 02:22:35,700 Al Qaeda, two months later in March of 2015, Barack Obama turn 2430 02:22:35,700 --> 02:22:37,700 around and stab the houthis in the back. 2431 02:22:38,000 --> 02:22:41,100 Apparently, over Lloyd Austin's. Dead body Mark Perry reported 2432 02:22:41,100 --> 02:22:44,000 that Austin and the Central Command generals were so upset 2433 02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:47,000 about this that he had written this angry letter to Obama. 2434 02:22:47,200 --> 02:22:49,500 And then his friends convinced him not to send it. 2435 02:22:49,500 --> 02:22:52,000 And what'd he do, he clicked his heels and he obeyed Obama's 2436 02:22:52,000 --> 02:22:55,200 orders, he turned around and not only did he betray the houthis, 2437 02:22:55,500 --> 02:22:59,200 he committed high treason against the American people 2438 02:22:59,700 --> 02:23:04,000 because he took the side of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab 2439 02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:08,900 Emirates, and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula against the 2440 02:23:08,900 --> 02:23:11,800 new enemy, the houthis. And even though they were 2441 02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:14,300 helping us kill, Al-Qaeda, guys, that sound. 2442 02:23:14,300 --> 02:23:16,300 He's hated them because they're Shiites and that means their 2443 02:23:16,300 --> 02:23:19,900 friends were there. On and also you know Crown 2444 02:23:19,900 --> 02:23:23,100 Prince bone saw Mohammed bin Salman at that time. 2445 02:23:23,100 --> 02:23:28,200 Was the brand new 29 year old brand new, Deputy Crown, Prince 2446 02:23:28,600 --> 02:23:33,300 and defense minister of Saudi Arabia and he needed to launch 2447 02:23:33,300 --> 02:23:37,500 this war for his own gain. Public Choice Theory to solidify 2448 02:23:37,500 --> 02:23:42,000 his power inside the kingdom and it worked and at the height of 2449 02:23:42,000 --> 02:23:44,500 the start of the war that was when Remember The 2450 02:23:44,600 --> 02:23:48,700 anti-corruption Round Up. We're all of the competing 2451 02:23:49,500 --> 02:23:52,000 members of the royal family. The most wealthy members of the 2452 02:23:52,008 --> 02:23:55,000 royal family had all of their loot taken and many of them were 2453 02:23:55,000 --> 02:23:57,500 put on house arrest including his cousin. 2454 02:23:57,500 --> 02:24:01,600 The Crown Prince Mohammed, bin nayef, who been Solomon, then 2455 02:24:01,600 --> 02:24:04,600 replaced and declared himself, Crown Prince, and he is now de 2456 02:24:04,600 --> 02:24:09,200 facto king of Saudi Arabia since senile old father just sits 2457 02:24:09,200 --> 02:24:11,300 there while he makes all the decisions. 2458 02:24:11,500 --> 02:24:13,400 So there were worked out very well for him. 2459 02:24:14,100 --> 02:24:17,000 And also as the Obama government told the New York Times. 2460 02:24:17,400 --> 02:24:20,400 They needed to placate the Saudis because they were making 2461 02:24:20,400 --> 02:24:24,000 the nuclear deal with Iran Iran who was not making nuclear 2462 02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:26,200 weapons. And because if they were, you 2463 02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:27,800 would think the Saudis would be happy that? 2464 02:24:27,800 --> 02:24:29,900 Oh good, they're not making nuclear weapons anymore and the 2465 02:24:29,908 --> 02:24:33,800 Americans are locking down their program further and expanding 2466 02:24:33,800 --> 02:24:35,500 inspections. So this is great. 2467 02:24:35,600 --> 02:24:37,800 Well that was always a hoax. The Rings were never making 2468 02:24:37,800 --> 02:24:40,700 nukes so the Saudis were not placated that. 2469 02:24:40,700 --> 02:24:44,000 Oh good you're locking down the nuclear civilian nuclear program 2470 02:24:44,000 --> 02:24:47,700 who cares about that but they were mad about was The risk that 2471 02:24:47,700 --> 02:24:51,000 America was going to now make friends with Iran that the 2472 02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:54,700 nuclear deal was now the first step toward tilting back toward 2473 02:24:54,700 --> 02:24:59,000 Iran, which would have been been at, Saudi Arabia's expense. 2474 02:24:59,100 --> 02:25:04,000 And so, the satellite was telling the Empire that they 2475 02:25:04,000 --> 02:25:07,200 need a pat on their head and reassurance that they're still 2476 02:25:07,200 --> 02:25:10,800 number one, in the American order in the Middle East, number 2477 02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:13,500 two, behind Israel, in the American order in the Middle 2478 02:25:13,500 --> 02:25:16,300 East. And so the Obama government told 2479 02:25:16,300 --> 02:25:18,800 the New York Times. Seems that even though they knew 2480 02:25:18,800 --> 02:25:26,100 the war would be long bloody and indecisive and break that down a 2481 02:25:26,108 --> 02:25:29,200 little bit. What it means is they knew that 2482 02:25:29,300 --> 02:25:34,400 innocent civilians were going to be torn apart to death and they 2483 02:25:34,400 --> 02:25:38,100 knew long and indecisive that means that they didn't know what 2484 02:25:38,100 --> 02:25:41,000 victory looked like and they knew going in that they didn't 2485 02:25:41,000 --> 02:25:44,300 even know what victory was supposed to look like, but that 2486 02:25:44,300 --> 02:25:48,200 they were going to do it anyway because they had to, to quote 2487 02:25:48,300 --> 02:25:53,200 placate the Saudis. So Obama launched a war of 2488 02:25:53,200 --> 02:25:59,000 treason and then very quickly, Keith of Genocide against the 2489 02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:01,900 people of Yemen, he had no authorization from Congress 2490 02:26:01,900 --> 02:26:04,400 whatsoever to do this. The closest he came to a 2491 02:26:04,408 --> 02:26:08,000 declaration of war was he had Bernadette Meehan the 2492 02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:10,200 spokeswoman for the state department. 2493 02:26:10,200 --> 02:26:13,700 Issue a statement saying, we're helping the Saudis and the UAE 2494 02:26:13,700 --> 02:26:16,500 bomb Yemen. Now that was his closest, we got 2495 02:26:16,500 --> 02:26:19,700 to a declaration of war and they've been providing 2496 02:26:19,700 --> 02:26:23,000 assistance diffusing responsibility leading from 2497 02:26:23,000 --> 02:26:26,700 behind. They like to call it but they 2498 02:26:27,400 --> 02:26:31,600 All the Jets, all the bombs, all the maintenance, all of the 2499 02:26:31,600 --> 02:26:34,800 logistics and all of the intelligence for the war. 2500 02:26:35,100 --> 02:26:38,100 The first few years, they provided the mid-air refueling 2501 02:26:38,300 --> 02:26:43,200 for the Saudi and UAE Jets, and of course, the US Navy is the 2502 02:26:43,200 --> 02:26:45,900 ruler of the seven seas. And it's helped to enforce the 2503 02:26:45,900 --> 02:26:49,200 blockade against the people of Yemen all this time. 2504 02:26:49,400 --> 02:26:52,100 And from the very beginning, Keith an operation decisive 2505 02:26:52,100 --> 02:26:58,000 storm, they've targeted civilian infrastructure Terror, Wings of 2506 02:26:58,000 --> 02:27:02,400 neighborhoods apartment complexes anything like Market 2507 02:27:02,400 --> 02:27:07,000 or a grocery store or food processing plants of any kind 2508 02:27:07,100 --> 02:27:11,900 they bomb funerals and weddings they bomb the civilian 2509 02:27:11,900 --> 02:27:15,600 infrastructure, the water, the electricity, the sewage, the 2510 02:27:15,600 --> 02:27:19,900 garbage, and the hospital's, even during the worst cholera 2511 02:27:19,900 --> 02:27:23,400 outbreaks in recorded history. Which means worse than what h.w. 2512 02:27:23,400 --> 02:27:25,100 Bush and Bill Clinton did to the Iraq. 2513 02:27:25,100 --> 02:27:30,000 He's under those sanctions. back in the early 90s, big bomb, the 2514 02:27:30,000 --> 02:27:33,600 cholera hospitals that are full of dying babies, who were 2515 02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:37,600 essentially dehydrating to death through vomiting and diarrhea 2516 02:27:38,600 --> 02:27:42,200 and then they bomb the caller hospitals and they bomb the 2517 02:27:42,200 --> 02:27:47,300 Farms, they bomb the grain, silos, all the irrigation 2518 02:27:47,500 --> 02:27:50,800 systems, the flocks of sheep in the field, the horses, in their 2519 02:27:50,800 --> 02:27:55,000 Stables, the fishermen's boats, you know, the roads and the 2520 02:27:55,000 --> 02:27:59,800 bridges and every Eagle bit of infrastructure that they can. 2521 02:28:00,100 --> 02:28:04,900 And for years, the media ludicrously insisted that up to 2522 02:28:04,900 --> 02:28:10,300 as many as 10,000 people have died in this war for years and 2523 02:28:10,300 --> 02:28:12,200 years. They were saying this, when 2524 02:28:12,200 --> 02:28:17,200 you're talking 10,000 people a month, were dying in this war 2525 02:28:17,300 --> 02:28:19,800 and then only finally did they update their estimate? 2526 02:28:19,800 --> 02:28:24,000 The end of 2018. They said, it's as many as 2527 02:28:24,000 --> 02:28:29,000 350,000. 375, Thousand people have died now. 2528 02:28:29,000 --> 02:28:34,200 That's four years ago and so, you know, I think we're talking 2529 02:28:34,200 --> 02:28:38,700 High hundreds of thousands of people who have been bombed 2530 02:28:38,700 --> 02:28:41,700 deprived and starve to death in this war, who've died of 2531 02:28:41,700 --> 02:28:44,700 otherwise, easily treatable diseases, because of 2532 02:28:44,700 --> 02:28:48,200 malnutrition and so forth and especially, yes, children under 2533 02:28:48,200 --> 02:28:50,700 five years old, are the primary victims of this? 2534 02:28:51,000 --> 02:28:55,900 It's every bit as bad as Iraq war to, or Obama's dirty war in 2535 02:28:55,900 --> 02:28:59,400 Syria, which again, all also was treason on behalf of the bin 2536 02:28:59,400 --> 02:29:02,700 Laden night terrors. But this one is a genocide. 2537 02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:06,600 It has deliberately all along been a war against the civilian 2538 02:29:06,600 --> 02:29:11,000 population of the country. So absolute horror show, and but 2539 02:29:11,000 --> 02:29:15,300 the good news is key. That one, there's a semi 2540 02:29:15,300 --> 02:29:17,700 ceasefire, the official ceasefire expired. 2541 02:29:17,700 --> 02:29:21,600 And there have been some low-level fighting but more or 2542 02:29:21,600 --> 02:29:23,000 less. It's holding anyway. 2543 02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:27,600 And right now, as we record this, the beginning, in November 2544 02:29:27,900 --> 02:29:34,100 2022, we have right now. Active real War Powers 2545 02:29:34,100 --> 02:29:38,700 resolutions in the house and the Senate and the house, it's HJ 2546 02:29:38,700 --> 02:29:43,800 res. 87 and the Senate. It's SJ res, 56. 2547 02:29:44,200 --> 02:29:49,000 And this makes it not just on constitutional but illegal for 2548 02:29:49,100 --> 02:29:53,200 the Biden government to continue support for the Saudis and the 2549 02:29:53,200 --> 02:29:56,700 UAE Air and the truth is man that the Saudis in the UAE or 2550 02:29:56,700 --> 02:29:59,300 trying to back out now. And they officially announced, 2551 02:29:59,300 --> 02:30:02,900 the current round of talks right after the houthis had launched 2552 02:30:02,900 --> 02:30:06,900 another successful drone strike, on an oil, refinery, right 2553 02:30:06,900 --> 02:30:11,500 outside of Riyadh, and clearly somebody in a robe came and told 2554 02:30:11,500 --> 02:30:13,700 Muhammad been Solomon enough of this. 2555 02:30:13,900 --> 02:30:18,100 It's time to wrap this thing up and so they are trying to find a 2556 02:30:18,100 --> 02:30:21,800 way out of this thing. And so, this is a place where 2557 02:30:21,800 --> 02:30:25,300 the libertarian party already. Has been all summer and fall 2558 02:30:25,300 --> 02:30:28,300 long. So far already has been working 2559 02:30:28,300 --> 02:30:31,900 very hard and can continue to work very hard. 2560 02:30:32,000 --> 02:30:35,000 It's to end a war. There's an opportunity that we 2561 02:30:35,000 --> 02:30:40,500 have not had, you know, they're this did happen sorted in 2019. 2562 02:30:40,700 --> 02:30:46,100 But in all of Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya Syria and all of the 2563 02:30:46,100 --> 02:30:50,300 terror whores, it is such a unique circumstance that we have 2564 02:30:50,300 --> 02:30:54,700 actual active War Powers Resolution to get Trying to 2565 02:30:54,700 --> 02:30:59,800 force the Congress that we the people can force the Congress to 2566 02:30:59,800 --> 02:31:04,700 force the president, to force the Saudis to end this war and 2567 02:31:04,700 --> 02:31:09,700 and forbid him from, you know, providing any more assistance 2568 02:31:09,700 --> 02:31:11,800 for it. And of course, if they pass that 2569 02:31:11,800 --> 02:31:14,200 and really stop the British and the French are going to wrap up 2570 02:31:14,200 --> 02:31:16,500 all their support to and then be the end of that. 2571 02:31:17,100 --> 02:31:20,100 It's a huge opportunity, we have one. 2572 02:31:21,000 --> 02:31:23,500 Well, first of all, and most importantly, of course. 2573 02:31:23,700 --> 02:31:30,200 It's to as the American people to really end War into. 2574 02:31:30,200 --> 02:31:33,000 It's also a test for the libertarian party. 2575 02:31:33,300 --> 02:31:37,000 We have 30,000 something people who also join this party to 2576 02:31:37,000 --> 02:31:41,200 engage in politics, to find a way to make a difference. 2577 02:31:41,400 --> 02:31:44,700 And this is a test to see whether we can heard these cats, 2578 02:31:45,000 --> 02:31:50,500 all these guys and gals on this one, big email list. 2579 02:31:50,700 --> 02:31:55,000 Can we get people to buy in this is Something that we can do 2580 02:31:55,100 --> 02:31:56,500 that. We can do together. 2581 02:31:56,500 --> 02:32:00,400 That really makes a difference. If I told you young man, call 2582 02:32:00,400 --> 02:32:03,900 your Congressman, it would be okay for you to tell me to leave 2583 02:32:03,900 --> 02:32:05,400 you alone. That stupid. 2584 02:32:05,400 --> 02:32:09,700 But man, if we all are doing it together, tens of thousands of 2585 02:32:09,700 --> 02:32:13,200 us and we have the entire population of the libertarian 2586 02:32:13,200 --> 02:32:15,200 party. We also got the Young Americans 2587 02:32:15,200 --> 02:32:18,600 for Liberty working with us Americans for Prosperity. 2588 02:32:18,800 --> 02:32:21,800 And I'm sorry, forgot the name. There's a couple other taxpayer 2589 02:32:21,800 --> 02:32:25,200 groups and other Libertarians. And groups, who are pushing this 2590 02:32:25,200 --> 02:32:28,000 and working very closely with the Quakers, and with the 2591 02:32:28,000 --> 02:32:32,900 progressives on pushing this thing through, if we all work 2592 02:32:32,900 --> 02:32:36,500 together on this and we get our mama and her sister, and her 2593 02:32:36,500 --> 02:32:39,800 friends, and our co-workers, our husbands and wives, and people 2594 02:32:39,800 --> 02:32:44,400 to do this together with us, then we really could make the 2595 02:32:44,400 --> 02:32:48,200 difference the libertarian party and our effort could be the 2596 02:32:48,200 --> 02:32:51,800 margin that gets these things past. 2597 02:32:51,900 --> 02:32:54,800 And yes, sort of a slippery slope Argument but not too 2598 02:32:54,800 --> 02:32:57,800 slippery that getting these resolutions passed. 2599 02:32:57,800 --> 02:33:01,700 Especially if we can get veto-proof supermajorities to 2600 02:33:01,700 --> 02:33:07,100 support them could force an end to the war and that would be 2601 02:33:07,100 --> 02:33:10,200 first of all, the greatest thing that the American people had 2602 02:33:10,200 --> 02:33:12,900 achieved in foreign policy, other than maybe stopping the 2603 02:33:12,900 --> 02:33:16,400 invasion of Syria in 2013, and I'm still, yeah, be even better 2604 02:33:16,400 --> 02:33:19,400 than that ending. This war. 2605 02:33:19,400 --> 02:33:23,900 Forcing an end to it, and it'd be a great way for For the 2606 02:33:23,900 --> 02:33:27,400 libertarian party to prove who we are and what we're about and 2607 02:33:27,400 --> 02:33:30,300 what our priorities are. And for that matter for the 2608 02:33:30,300 --> 02:33:33,600 broader libertarian movement, that this is what matters the 2609 02:33:33,600 --> 02:33:36,500 most to us. And it's not because we have a 2610 02:33:36,500 --> 02:33:41,800 dog in the fight, in terms of, you know, any special interest 2611 02:33:41,900 --> 02:33:46,300 that we stand to benefit from in the, in the Yemen War. 2612 02:33:46,300 --> 02:33:50,000 They don't even have any oil or whatever little oil they have 2613 02:33:50,000 --> 02:33:53,500 is, you know, essentially inconsequential this hole. 2614 02:33:53,700 --> 02:33:58,300 Thing is happening because some you many expats and some leftist 2615 02:33:58,300 --> 02:34:03,900 Anti-Imperialist and some Quaker pacifists and Grassroots 2616 02:34:04,000 --> 02:34:08,200 including libertarian activists all around this country have 2617 02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:10,300 been banging the drum about this. 2618 02:34:10,400 --> 02:34:14,500 Since 2015 have been raising holy hell we don't have a single 2619 02:34:14,500 --> 02:34:17,900 champion on TV news. We don't have any rich people 2620 02:34:18,100 --> 02:34:22,300 who are behind this effort and yet we already have more than 2621 02:34:22,300 --> 02:34:24,700 100 co-sponsors. On the house version of this 2622 02:34:24,700 --> 02:34:29,600 thing and it truly is because of simple Grassroots activism by 2623 02:34:29,600 --> 02:34:32,100 regular people. And, you know, I'm not a big 2624 02:34:32,100 --> 02:34:37,700 promoter of belief in democracy to Deliver Us from Evil, and to 2625 02:34:37,700 --> 02:34:42,100 deliver the utopian society, we all want to believe it, but we'd 2626 02:34:42,100 --> 02:34:46,100 be fools to think that there's nothing to it at all. 2627 02:34:46,100 --> 02:34:50,400 And that we cannot use it for our ends in anyway. 2628 02:34:50,600 --> 02:34:53,300 That's just not true. And I just been doing this long 2629 02:34:53,300 --> 02:34:55,800 enough. No, my own little radio show 2630 02:34:55,800 --> 02:35:00,700 from Austin but I've spoken with the activist in d.c. enough over 2631 02:35:00,700 --> 02:35:04,200 the years to know that it's true from their different, anecdotes 2632 02:35:04,900 --> 02:35:11,400 phone calls matter, emails matter, letters matter if the 2633 02:35:11,400 --> 02:35:14,500 people are making it known that man. 2634 02:35:14,500 --> 02:35:18,700 Let's Yemen thing is hot this week, then it's true. 2635 02:35:18,900 --> 02:35:22,600 We have to make it true and then it becomes true, we have 2636 02:35:22,600 --> 02:35:26,600 staffers Join us on our conference calls with the 2637 02:35:26,600 --> 02:35:32,900 activist leadership. Please more calls because the 2638 02:35:32,900 --> 02:35:35,800 staff in many cases has already been won over. 2639 02:35:36,400 --> 02:35:39,200 But now they got to go to the boss and they have to be able to 2640 02:35:39,208 --> 02:35:42,800 say to the boss and not lie. It has to be true. 2641 02:35:43,400 --> 02:35:47,300 The phone won't stop ringing. If people really care about this 2642 02:35:47,300 --> 02:35:50,700 Yemen thing, I think this is a parade that we need to get in 2643 02:35:50,700 --> 02:35:54,600 front of I think man 100 co-sponsors So, we should hurry 2644 02:35:54,600 --> 02:35:59,500 up and sign on now, before we look bad for taking too long to, 2645 02:35:59,800 --> 02:36:01,300 and we should definitely vote for this thing. 2646 02:36:01,300 --> 02:36:04,100 And maybe we should bring this up on TV apparently, people 2647 02:36:04,100 --> 02:36:08,500 really care about this, but we have to set that narrative. 2648 02:36:08,800 --> 02:36:12,800 People actual ones in real life out here in the country, we have 2649 02:36:12,800 --> 02:36:17,800 to make it true that Yemen. Apparently really does matter to 2650 02:36:17,800 --> 02:36:21,400 people, and that maybe we need to get good on this from the 2651 02:36:21,400 --> 02:36:22,900 point of view of the people up there. 2652 02:36:23,700 --> 02:36:26,400 So that's what I'm asking. I'm not asking for libertarian 2653 02:36:26,400 --> 02:36:28,900 party members to just become all Yemen. 2654 02:36:28,900 --> 02:36:32,500 Were obsessed activist for the next seven years like my last 2655 02:36:32,500 --> 02:36:36,700 seven right. Obviously, next is gold and guns 2656 02:36:37,000 --> 02:36:41,600 and corruption in the healthcare system and every other thing on 2657 02:36:41,600 --> 02:36:44,400 everyone else's agenda, right? I'm not the boss of this thing. 2658 02:36:44,500 --> 02:36:46,600 It's just this is really, really important. 2659 02:36:46,700 --> 02:36:50,200 And if we can prove that we can Corral everybody and get 2660 02:36:50,200 --> 02:36:53,800 everybody to work together, not just on elections which Are, of 2661 02:36:53,800 --> 02:36:58,000 course, huge and important, but on single issues like this. 2662 02:36:59,700 --> 02:37:01,700 Then we can prove that we can do it on guns. 2663 02:37:02,400 --> 02:37:05,700 Shouldn't the libertarian party itself, be the biggest and best 2664 02:37:05,700 --> 02:37:08,700 and most important anti gun control group in America? 2665 02:37:09,700 --> 02:37:12,900 Well we can all agree about guns. 2666 02:37:12,900 --> 02:37:16,700 That's one thing. But can we Corral our membership 2667 02:37:17,100 --> 02:37:19,300 to shoot down? A red flag law here and an 2668 02:37:19,300 --> 02:37:23,400 assault weapons, ban there to get concealed, you know? 2669 02:37:23,500 --> 02:37:26,900 Situational carry passed in this state or that state. 2670 02:37:27,800 --> 02:37:31,800 Well, if we can stop a war in Yemen and we could stop a gun 2671 02:37:31,800 --> 02:37:37,500 control law in Kansas and so, in this to me is the test case and 2672 02:37:37,500 --> 02:37:39,400 we start with him. And of course, we got to do 2673 02:37:39,400 --> 02:37:43,100 Ukraine, to we absolutely need to be leading the effort in the 2674 02:37:43,100 --> 02:37:48,500 United States. You know, to, to push for peace. 2675 02:37:48,500 --> 02:37:51,200 Especially the Democrats and the Republicans are so compromised 2676 02:37:51,200 --> 02:37:53,300 on that issue. So huge, another huge 2677 02:37:53,400 --> 02:37:56,500 Opportunity, for the libertarian party to do. 2678 02:37:56,500 --> 02:38:00,000 The right thing to do. Everything we can to get a 2679 02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:03,800 negotiated peace, reduce the risk of nuclear war, and at the 2680 02:38:03,800 --> 02:38:07,200 same time, show that we're the ones who are good on this stuff, 2681 02:38:07,200 --> 02:38:10,200 and it's no coincidence that we're the ones who are going on 2682 02:38:10,200 --> 02:38:14,400 this, that, and the other thing and, and give people a reason to 2683 02:38:14,400 --> 02:38:16,800 take a look at what we're doing. As opposed to the people, 2684 02:38:16,800 --> 02:38:19,500 they've been told their whole lives, they gotta believe in but 2685 02:38:19,500 --> 02:38:22,100 who just don't offer anything to believe in at all. 2686 02:38:23,400 --> 02:38:27,300 Scott, I got three more conflicts take as short or as 2687 02:38:27,300 --> 02:38:30,600 long as you'd like on these when it comes to the Syria conflict. 2688 02:38:30,600 --> 02:38:33,100 What do Americans need to know about the US and Syria? 2689 02:38:33,600 --> 02:38:37,100 Okay, first of all, we got to go back to Iraq, the 2690 02:38:37,400 --> 02:38:40,000 neoconservatives, who arranged the Iraq? 2691 02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:44,200 War believed that will put the Shiite supermajority in power in 2692 02:38:44,200 --> 02:38:46,100 Iraq at the expense of the sunnis. 2693 02:38:46,200 --> 02:38:48,600 But then, they will do whatever we tell them. 2694 02:38:49,300 --> 02:38:52,300 And that means they will tell Hezbollah in Lebanon to stop 2695 02:38:52,300 --> 02:38:54,700 being friends with it. On and start being friends with 2696 02:38:54,700 --> 02:38:57,300 Israel. And that'll make the Israeli. 2697 02:38:57,300 --> 02:39:02,300 Turkish Jordanian, American axis of power, the dominant force in 2698 02:39:02,300 --> 02:39:04,900 the region and it'll screw the Iranians. 2699 02:39:05,300 --> 02:39:09,000 Well that's stupid and David worms, her and Richard Perle and 2700 02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:13,100 Douglas feith, they are stupid and they're clean break policy 2701 02:39:13,700 --> 02:39:16,400 did not achieve what they thought it would achieve. 2702 02:39:16,400 --> 02:39:20,500 Instead it achieve would all the critics accused, obviously 2703 02:39:21,000 --> 02:39:24,400 you're going to put the Ayatollah Best friends in power 2704 02:39:24,500 --> 02:39:26,800 in Iraq. That's what George W. 2705 02:39:26,800 --> 02:39:32,100 Bush's, Iraq war to did from 2003 through 2008, was, he 2706 02:39:32,100 --> 02:39:34,100 essentially picked up where his father had left off. 2707 02:39:34,100 --> 02:39:36,300 When he betrayed the Shiite Revolution that he had 2708 02:39:36,300 --> 02:39:39,800 encouraged in 1991 and Junior, brought him all the way to 2709 02:39:39,800 --> 02:39:43,800 Baghdad and fought a five-year Civil War to, you know, keep all 2710 02:39:43,800 --> 02:39:46,900 of their enemies down and out and solidify their position and 2711 02:39:46,900 --> 02:39:48,400 power. And that's who rules the country 2712 02:39:48,400 --> 02:39:51,000 right now. Major iranian-backed factions, 2713 02:39:51,100 --> 02:39:55,800 just finished. Dating their power again in the 2714 02:39:55,800 --> 02:39:59,200 so-called parliamentary democracy such as it exists in 2715 02:39:59,200 --> 02:40:01,300 that country in the year, twenty two. 2716 02:40:01,700 --> 02:40:08,000 But now by 2005 2006, some of the less stupid neoconservatives 2717 02:40:08,000 --> 02:40:11,100 realized that we really screwed everything up here and so I'll 2718 02:40:11,100 --> 02:40:15,700 make alleles odd and Elliott Abrams came to George w-- Bush 2719 02:40:15,700 --> 02:40:18,300 and said, listen we scored what they call in soccer and own 2720 02:40:18,300 --> 02:40:20,500 goal. We've really have empowered the 2721 02:40:20,500 --> 02:40:23,000 Ayatollah here. So now we need to tilt back. 2722 02:40:23,100 --> 02:40:27,800 Back toward the sunnis, meaning the Saudi king, the Jordanian, 2723 02:40:27,800 --> 02:40:30,700 King, and their allies. And you know what? 2724 02:40:30,700 --> 02:40:32,800 Man, when I was writing enough already, I looked everywhere. 2725 02:40:32,800 --> 02:40:34,800 I couldn't find the damn thing. I know this happened. 2726 02:40:34,800 --> 02:40:37,300 I can't find it. Dick Cheney, went to Saudi an 2727 02:40:37,300 --> 02:40:39,700 early 06. The only thing I could find was 2728 02:40:39,700 --> 02:40:42,700 all make alleles odd. When I know that Cheney when I 2729 02:40:42,700 --> 02:40:46,200 just could never find it again. But anyway, they went to go and 2730 02:40:46,200 --> 02:40:49,500 kiss up to the Saudi king and tell him so sorry. 2731 02:40:50,000 --> 02:40:52,900 And we know this because of the heroics of the great publisher 2732 02:40:52,900 --> 02:40:56,300 and Journalist Julian Assange, sitting in prison at the behest 2733 02:40:56,300 --> 02:41:00,000 of the American Empire in England, right now that he 2734 02:41:00,000 --> 02:41:03,500 published this Wikileaks, that says the joy. 2735 02:41:03,500 --> 02:41:06,000 The Saudi king, read the riot act. 2736 02:41:06,000 --> 02:41:10,000 It's all made, Khalil, asaad the neocon and said we told you not 2737 02:41:10,000 --> 02:41:12,500 to do this Iraq war. He said it was going to be great 2738 02:41:12,500 --> 02:41:15,500 and now you ruined everything. You know it used to be us and 2739 02:41:15,500 --> 02:41:18,900 you and Saddam Allied together against Iran. 2740 02:41:19,700 --> 02:41:24,700 Now, you've given a rock to Iran on a golden platter, and what 2741 02:41:24,700 --> 02:41:27,700 are you going to do about it and Khalil, asaad, boughs and 2742 02:41:27,700 --> 02:41:31,500 scrapes and says whatever you say your highness, right? 2743 02:41:31,500 --> 02:41:33,200 And then, so, what's the answer key? 2744 02:41:34,400 --> 02:41:38,400 Going to tilt back toward Osama, Bin Laden's men, the Saudis 2745 02:41:38,400 --> 02:41:42,700 don't have a land Army. And certainly not a navy and 2746 02:41:42,700 --> 02:41:46,100 Airforce and a real capability for tilting back toward the 2747 02:41:46,100 --> 02:41:47,600 Saudis. That means we're tilting back 2748 02:41:47,600 --> 02:41:50,200 toward their suicide bomber shock troops. 2749 02:41:51,300 --> 02:41:55,000 It was our allies, the Saudis who financed the Sunni based 2750 02:41:55,000 --> 02:41:58,700 Insurgency against our troops fighting on the Shiite side 2751 02:41:58,800 --> 02:42:02,800 throughout that whole War. Now, what happened when the war 2752 02:42:02,800 --> 02:42:06,600 was over, was all of the mujahideen who had traveled to 2753 02:42:06,600 --> 02:42:09,600 Iraq to fight against the Shiites in the Americans started 2754 02:42:09,600 --> 02:42:12,000 going back home. Just like Al Qaeda had come home 2755 02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:14,100 from Afghanistan after the 1980s. 2756 02:42:15,000 --> 02:42:18,800 Well, these guys all started coming back home to Saturday to, 2757 02:42:18,800 --> 02:42:20,900 and especially to Libya and to Syria. 2758 02:42:21,000 --> 02:42:24,800 You and what is Obama do justice? 2759 02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:30,100 He's killing Osama. He takes his side in Libya and 2760 02:42:30,100 --> 02:42:33,400 he helps what was called, the Libyan Islamic fighting Group, 2761 02:42:33,600 --> 02:42:36,100 which is just the Libyan members of Al Qaeda in Iraq. 2762 02:42:36,100 --> 02:42:37,900 That's all they were the bin Laden. 2763 02:42:37,900 --> 02:42:42,000 Ha Olivia, help them in a nine-month regime, change War to 2764 02:42:42,000 --> 02:42:47,200 overthrow Gaddafi and which has led to, you know, Civil War in 2765 02:42:47,200 --> 02:42:49,600 that country and tens of thousands dead, the refugee 2766 02:42:49,600 --> 02:42:56,100 crisis and all these things, the regime change war in Mali and 2767 02:42:56,200 --> 02:42:59,200 the pollution. And then major intervention all 2768 02:42:59,200 --> 02:43:03,100 throughout North Africa. And then they move right on to 2769 02:43:03,100 --> 02:43:07,500 Syria and David Petraeus who at that time was still the director 2770 02:43:07,500 --> 02:43:15,500 of CIA took the lead on shipping guns and Jihadi terrorists from 2771 02:43:15,700 --> 02:43:19,700 Benghazi in eastern Libya on Syria. 2772 02:43:20,200 --> 02:43:25,200 This is the real Scandal of the Benghazi attack of September 2773 02:43:25,200 --> 02:43:27,900 11th, 2012. It's not just that they had 2774 02:43:27,900 --> 02:43:31,400 lousy security there and Hillary didn't do a good enough job, 2775 02:43:31,400 --> 02:43:32,700 huh? And security for our guys. 2776 02:43:32,800 --> 02:43:36,200 It's why were they there? Instead of, in Tripoli they were 2777 02:43:36,200 --> 02:43:38,400 there because that was the home base of the jihadis that they 2778 02:43:38,400 --> 02:43:42,100 were working with the qataris. So funnel, all these guys off to 2779 02:43:42,100 --> 02:43:46,800 the next war in Syria and there's all the evidence is in 2780 02:43:46,800 --> 02:43:52,300 the book and then they go to Syria now, in, Libya the Saudis. 2781 02:43:52,300 --> 02:43:55,500 And the British, and all kinds of people had a grudge against 2782 02:43:55,500 --> 02:43:57,500 Qaddafi. They had an opportunity to 2783 02:43:57,500 --> 02:43:59,900 exploit the Arab Spring to get rid of Gaddafi. 2784 02:43:59,900 --> 02:44:04,000 Great. But in Syria, it was really 2785 02:44:04,000 --> 02:44:10,100 about was that the Bashar al-assad regime which is 2786 02:44:10,100 --> 02:44:14,000 essentially backed by the ruling caste of what are called the 2787 02:44:14,000 --> 02:44:17,900 Allah whites, which is a sort of predates, but is also sort of 2788 02:44:17,900 --> 02:44:20,900 kind of an offshoot of the Shiites there. 2789 02:44:20,900 --> 02:44:28,100 The ruling caste in Syria and their official allies with Iran. 2790 02:44:29,300 --> 02:44:34,600 And so the idea was if W bush gave Iran Baghdad. 2791 02:44:34,900 --> 02:44:37,200 Well we can't start that war all over again. 2792 02:44:37,200 --> 02:44:40,100 And start a massive ethnic cleansing campaign or sectarian 2793 02:44:40,100 --> 02:44:43,100 cleansing campaign on behalf of the sunnis, to kick all the 2794 02:44:43,100 --> 02:44:47,000 Shiites out, again that ship has sailed, man, you can't undo that 2795 02:44:47,500 --> 02:44:52,400 but as a consolation prize we can take Damascus away from them 2796 02:44:53,100 --> 02:44:55,100 and so that was what it was all about. 2797 02:44:55,100 --> 02:44:59,200 This people really wandered. Man, you have a secular 2798 02:44:59,200 --> 02:45:03,400 dictatorship where this guy Assad was the three-piece suit 2799 02:45:03,400 --> 02:45:06,000 shaves. His chin every morning and has 2800 02:45:06,000 --> 02:45:10,600 essentially an alliance with the Shiite Arabs, with the majority 2801 02:45:10,600 --> 02:45:14,000 of the Sunni Arabs. But also with all of the 2802 02:45:14,000 --> 02:45:17,200 different sects of Christians, the child, Ian, and Mariah night 2803 02:45:17,200 --> 02:45:21,200 Christians, and there's this one group where they still spoke 2804 02:45:21,200 --> 02:45:25,100 Aramaic which was allegedly the language of Jesus. 2805 02:45:25,700 --> 02:45:28,700 And that this was, you know, the Oldest continuous Christian 2806 02:45:28,700 --> 02:45:32,000 civilization in the world. These were all the people who 2807 02:45:32,000 --> 02:45:35,600 are part of the Coalition Alliance that supported the 2808 02:45:35,608 --> 02:45:38,800 dictatorship. On the other side, were a bunch 2809 02:45:38,800 --> 02:45:40,800 of Bin Laden night suicide bombers. 2810 02:45:40,800 --> 02:45:44,500 Again, the majority of the Sunni Arab population of the country 2811 02:45:44,500 --> 02:45:48,900 even supported Assad. The supermajority of his army 2812 02:45:49,300 --> 02:45:53,200 was Sunni Arab so it wasn't just sectarian differences. 2813 02:45:53,200 --> 02:45:56,600 It was the bin Laden nights, it was the crazies, the head 2814 02:45:56,600 --> 02:46:00,600 shoppers The suicide bombers, the essentially, you know, 2815 02:46:00,600 --> 02:46:05,000 wahhabists, leninists who want like World Revolution. 2816 02:46:05,300 --> 02:46:08,600 These were the guys, that the Americans, the Saudis, the 2817 02:46:08,600 --> 02:46:13,900 qataris, the Turks, and the Israelis all chose to back in 2818 02:46:13,900 --> 02:46:18,600 the dirty war in Syria. Beginning in 2011, the way I 2819 02:46:18,600 --> 02:46:23,800 write it in the book, It's I quote over and over and over 2820 02:46:23,800 --> 02:46:27,100 from, I don't know how many eight or ten different major 2821 02:46:27,100 --> 02:46:30,400 authoritative sources from the highest levels, including Obama 2822 02:46:30,400 --> 02:46:33,600 himself and all of the members of his cabinet and everyone 2823 02:46:33,600 --> 02:46:35,600 explaining, why are we doing this? 2824 02:46:35,600 --> 02:46:39,400 Because we hate Iran. We hate this Shiites, and we 2825 02:46:39,400 --> 02:46:41,600 hate that Iraq war to help the Shiites. 2826 02:46:41,600 --> 02:46:44,800 So now, we're trying to figure out a way to get back at them, 2827 02:46:44,800 --> 02:46:49,300 and then, as I explained it in the book, I say that is why the 2828 02:46:50,000 --> 02:46:52,600 impossible things in this chapter are true. 2829 02:46:53,700 --> 02:46:57,400 You just can never understand. It's not that Obama's a secret 2830 02:46:57,400 --> 02:47:00,200 Muslim from Kenya. That was always a bunch of crap, 2831 02:47:00,800 --> 02:47:03,300 but why would he do what he did in Syria? 2832 02:47:03,300 --> 02:47:06,900 It's just crazy. And the answer is because he's 2833 02:47:06,900 --> 02:47:10,900 George W bush, because he's trying to make up for the 2834 02:47:10,900 --> 02:47:16,100 mistake of Iraq war to by making another worst one in Syria and 2835 02:47:16,100 --> 02:47:18,600 then what happened Keith after a couple of years and back in the 2836 02:47:18,600 --> 02:47:24,500 bin Laden nights in Syria by 2013, Thereby halfway through. 2837 02:47:25,200 --> 02:47:27,300 They took over all of Eastern Syria. 2838 02:47:28,300 --> 02:47:33,700 Call that the Islamic State one year later, they invaded, all of 2839 02:47:33,700 --> 02:47:37,900 Western Iraq. Took it over and, you know, no 2840 02:47:37,900 --> 02:47:40,800 time at all. All but ramadi took the longest 2841 02:47:40,800 --> 02:47:47,300 time at they sieged, you know, they took over mosul Fallujah 2842 02:47:48,500 --> 02:47:51,800 tikrit which was Saddam Hussein's hometown by G where 2843 02:47:51,800 --> 02:47:54,900 the oil. Binary was near kirkuk in all 2844 02:47:54,900 --> 02:47:57,400 this area and took your cook too. 2845 02:47:58,700 --> 02:48:02,000 And declare the Islamic State and you had this guy baghdady 2846 02:48:02,000 --> 02:48:05,200 who might as well have been Bin Laden himself go up there on the 2847 02:48:05,200 --> 02:48:09,800 balcony like Mussolini declaring himself God's chosen, dictator 2848 02:48:10,300 --> 02:48:14,100 to come and rule this caliphate, a land area, the size of Great 2849 02:48:14,100 --> 02:48:16,800 Britain. And then what did Obama do, then 2850 02:48:17,800 --> 02:48:22,400 he launched Iraq War 3. To again, take the side of the 2851 02:48:22,400 --> 02:48:25,800 Shiites that they wish they hadn't fought a rock or two for. 2852 02:48:26,000 --> 02:48:29,700 That was the reason they backed these Bin Laden nights in Syria 2853 02:48:30,300 --> 02:48:34,500 was to spite these Shiites, it took their side again. 2854 02:48:35,400 --> 02:48:37,500 In order to liberate Western Iraq. 2855 02:48:38,100 --> 02:48:41,800 From the forces of the bin Laden nights, whose caliphate was 2856 02:48:41,800 --> 02:48:45,800 obviously two or three or ten bridges too far from what they 2857 02:48:45,800 --> 02:48:48,300 were trying to do. So then they had launched a rock 2858 02:48:48,300 --> 02:48:50,300 were three, which killed another half a million. 2859 02:48:50,500 --> 02:48:56,000 People and put America directly in the surface of Iran and their 2860 02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:58,400 friendly malicious on the ground in Iraq. 2861 02:48:59,300 --> 02:49:04,100 And that's why when Michael Horton, who has no relation to 2862 02:49:04,100 --> 02:49:05,900 me? But is a terrorism expert from 2863 02:49:05,900 --> 02:49:07,900 the hawkish Jamestown Foundation. 2864 02:49:08,700 --> 02:49:16,700 When they started the war in Yemen in 2015, he quoted John 2865 02:49:16,700 --> 02:49:19,200 McCain. In fact, he was still find that 2866 02:49:19,200 --> 02:49:20,600 son. John McCain's Twitter feed, he 2867 02:49:20,600 --> 02:49:26,200 says, we're flying as a Ron's Air Force in Iraq, right now. 2868 02:49:26,700 --> 02:49:30,600 Well, one, yes, that was 100% true. 2869 02:49:30,600 --> 02:49:34,600 And to that was 100%. John McCain's fault for 2870 02:49:34,600 --> 02:49:39,200 supporting Iraq war to the regime change attempted regime 2871 02:49:39,200 --> 02:49:43,900 change in Syria and Iraq War 3, but then Michael Horton. 2872 02:49:43,900 --> 02:49:45,800 Said, yeah, John McCain complains were flying. 2873 02:49:45,800 --> 02:49:47,900 As a Iran's Air Force in Iraq, right now. 2874 02:49:48,300 --> 02:49:51,100 We're flying as al-qaeda's Air Force in Yemen. 2875 02:49:52,200 --> 02:49:53,800 Right. But that's what he was talking 2876 02:49:53,800 --> 02:49:56,400 about when he was saying that McCain's complaining that we're 2877 02:49:56,400 --> 02:49:59,400 flying, as a Ron's Air Force. Why we're flying as to Ron's Air 2878 02:49:59,400 --> 02:50:01,100 Force? As we flew into Ron's Air Force 2879 02:50:01,100 --> 02:50:06,300 in Iraq, war to regretted it, fought an evil dirty CIA suicide 2880 02:50:06,300 --> 02:50:09,600 bomber regime, change dirty war that fails in Syria. 2881 02:50:09,700 --> 02:50:12,300 Didn't lean to the fall of the regime in Damascus. 2882 02:50:12,300 --> 02:50:17,100 But did lie to the fall of all of Western, Iraq, and Eastern 2883 02:50:17,100 --> 02:50:20,400 Syria, and the creation of the bin Laden that caliphate and 2884 02:50:20,400 --> 02:50:22,600 this whole disaster, Estrus new war. 2885 02:50:23,300 --> 02:50:26,700 And so, you know, when I wrote that book, I didn't have a 2886 02:50:26,700 --> 02:50:30,200 professional editor this time. Like I had on Fool's errand and 2887 02:50:30,200 --> 02:50:32,400 so I just made a bunch of different friends read it, 2888 02:50:32,600 --> 02:50:35,700 including my mom, you know, for like grammar and stuff. 2889 02:50:36,500 --> 02:50:39,100 And I usually talk about my family on these things but what 2890 02:50:39,100 --> 02:50:42,100 the hell, it's funny, my mom's laughed and said to me, you 2891 02:50:42,100 --> 02:50:45,000 know, I love reading this book. I swear, I lost track of how 2892 02:50:45,000 --> 02:50:48,900 many times we change sides at 10 and then after that I couldn't 2893 02:50:48,900 --> 02:50:51,100 remember if I was at 11 or 12 anymore. 2894 02:50:51,100 --> 02:50:54,000 So I Dropped it. So that's what that book is 2895 02:50:54,000 --> 02:50:57,900 about enough already from 1979 on Switching size a, even 2896 02:50:57,900 --> 02:51:00,300 supported the Ayatollah. Come into power in Iran. 2897 02:51:02,000 --> 02:51:04,800 Just going all the way back. They just do nothing, but switch 2898 02:51:04,800 --> 02:51:07,900 sides. We back Iran, we attack them. 2899 02:51:08,100 --> 02:51:10,300 We back Saddam Hussein. We attack them. 2900 02:51:10,500 --> 02:51:12,600 We backed the mujahideen. We attack them. 2901 02:51:12,700 --> 02:51:14,600 We back out. Kata we attack them. 2902 02:51:14,800 --> 02:51:19,100 We back Saddam Hussein attack him. 2903 02:51:19,300 --> 02:51:23,900 We back Qaddafi attack. Him back Assad, attack him back 2904 02:51:23,900 --> 02:51:28,700 the houthis attack them. Does that sound right to you at 2905 02:51:28,700 --> 02:51:31,500 all? How many is I lost count to? 2906 02:51:32,200 --> 02:51:34,500 This is what we. This is how we fought the whole 2907 02:51:34,500 --> 02:51:38,100 Terror war from the time. I was in preschool Keith and 2908 02:51:38,100 --> 02:51:44,100 third grade at the Briar Patch. So when it comes to, if you're 2909 02:51:44,100 --> 02:51:48,300 talking to a bunch of Democrats, they see the world through more 2910 02:51:48,300 --> 02:51:51,900 or less, an oppressor oppressed lens, really caring about 2911 02:51:51,900 --> 02:51:55,600 something like equality and justice especially for the most 2912 02:51:55,600 --> 02:51:58,800 vulnerable people in society. Why should they be anti-war? 2913 02:51:58,900 --> 02:52:01,200 Why should they listen to the libertarian message? 2914 02:52:03,000 --> 02:52:05,900 Well, America is run by a bunch of right-wing capitalist 2915 02:52:05,900 --> 02:52:08,800 imperialist. See, dude, they don't care about 2916 02:52:08,800 --> 02:52:11,000 you and they don't care about what you care about. 2917 02:52:11,000 --> 02:52:18,000 They don't care about who you care about a leftist would never 2918 02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:23,100 hire the Pentagon and the CIA to take care of their problem for 2919 02:52:23,100 --> 02:52:24,800 them. And that's something that 2920 02:52:24,800 --> 02:52:29,200 liberals could learn a lesson from their commie Brethren, you 2921 02:52:29,200 --> 02:52:30,500 know. And this is unfortunately 2922 02:52:30,500 --> 02:52:35,600 something with liberals Where they in they Embrace militarism. 2923 02:52:35,900 --> 02:52:39,500 Just to prove what, leftist, they're not right. 2924 02:52:39,500 --> 02:52:41,400 I'm no anti-American. Commie. 2925 02:52:41,500 --> 02:52:44,200 I'm a patriot. I support the current thing. 2926 02:52:45,400 --> 02:52:48,600 You know it's kind of the way that they do that but what they 2927 02:52:48,600 --> 02:52:52,300 should realize is out in the world and specially Democrat 2928 02:52:52,300 --> 02:52:56,100 politicians should realize that the only reason that people 2929 02:52:56,100 --> 02:52:59,300 prefer Democrats at all is because presumably they're a 2930 02:52:59,300 --> 02:53:02,100 little bit less of War. Hawks. 2931 02:53:02,700 --> 02:53:05,200 They always want to make up for the fact. 2932 02:53:05,200 --> 02:53:09,700 Oh everyone thinks that Liberals are effeminate and weak and 2933 02:53:09,700 --> 02:53:13,600 cowardly and that only you know, all Macho tough guys who know 2934 02:53:13,600 --> 02:53:15,000 how to fight her all on the right. 2935 02:53:15,200 --> 02:53:19,200 And so, then they want to be Hillary Clinton ights, right? 2936 02:53:19,200 --> 02:53:23,100 And prove, what hawks they are? We need a muscular foreign 2937 02:53:23,100 --> 02:53:25,300 policy to show how muscular we are. 2938 02:53:25,300 --> 02:53:27,300 We know that's not what people want. 2939 02:53:27,400 --> 02:53:32,000 What people want to hear liberals say is that, they are 2940 02:53:32,000 --> 02:53:34,800 somehow the descendants of the new Left movement from the 2941 02:53:34,800 --> 02:53:39,100 Vietnam and Civil Rights era. And that they want to come home 2942 02:53:39,100 --> 02:53:42,200 America. They don't want to be an Empire. 2943 02:53:42,200 --> 02:53:45,000 They don't believe that we're going to save the people. 2944 02:53:45,100 --> 02:53:48,100 People of Iraq. And how can you believe that the 2945 02:53:48,100 --> 02:53:52,500 same Pentagon, that was not going to save the people of Iraq 2946 02:53:52,600 --> 02:53:56,500 was going to save the people of Libya and this is a fight. 2947 02:53:56,500 --> 02:53:58,800 I got with Juan Cole who actually had supported the 2948 02:53:58,800 --> 02:54:01,600 invasion of Iraq but then he had been a really good expert on it. 2949 02:54:01,600 --> 02:54:05,000 I'd interviewed him a bunch of times but a liberal you know and 2950 02:54:05,000 --> 02:54:07,500 then he turned right around and supported the war in Libya. 2951 02:54:08,400 --> 02:54:11,400 It's like how can you sit there and tell me like you've learned 2952 02:54:11,400 --> 02:54:14,100 nothing just because it's Barack Obama doing it. 2953 02:54:14,100 --> 02:54:17,100 What's the CIA? In the Pentagon, doing it to see 2954 02:54:17,100 --> 02:54:20,000 American Empire. Doing it, you think this is 2955 02:54:20,008 --> 02:54:23,400 going to work out well for anyone or you nuts. 2956 02:54:24,800 --> 02:54:28,000 So it's just look. Again, this is the era of the 2957 02:54:28,000 --> 02:54:31,100 phony Wars. If Hitler was out there, but 2958 02:54:31,100 --> 02:54:34,500 striding the world, I guess we'd have a real argument here. 2959 02:54:34,800 --> 02:54:38,700 The fact of the matter is America's the bully America's 2960 02:54:38,700 --> 02:54:41,300 the world Empire, everyone knows that. 2961 02:54:41,300 --> 02:54:44,300 There's no point in denying it, you've said it yourself. 2962 02:54:44,300 --> 02:54:48,000 All of you. We're number one, weird. 2963 02:54:48,000 --> 02:54:51,900 The superpower. Well, was that make everybody 2964 02:54:51,900 --> 02:54:55,000 else? No less powerful than That there 2965 02:54:55,000 --> 02:55:00,200 were two superpowers than one of them ceased to exist, and now 2966 02:55:00,200 --> 02:55:05,100 there's one and it is us. And yes, of course, they dress 2967 02:55:05,100 --> 02:55:08,000 up all their bullying in humanitarianism. 2968 02:55:08,300 --> 02:55:11,300 George W. Bush said he was going to Iraq 2969 02:55:11,300 --> 02:55:13,900 for the benefit of the people of Iraq. 2970 02:55:14,600 --> 02:55:19,400 Come on. And Barack Obama claimed that 2971 02:55:19,600 --> 02:55:23,700 that moammar Qaddafi was about to murder every last man. 2972 02:55:23,800 --> 02:55:28,500 Woman and child in the city of Benghazi 700,000 people write as 2973 02:55:28,500 --> 02:55:32,200 many people as he claimed live in the city of Charlotte. 2974 02:55:32,200 --> 02:55:35,900 He said imagine the city of Charlotte North Carolina being 2975 02:55:35,900 --> 02:55:40,400 wiped off the face of the Earth. Every man woman and child and 2976 02:55:40,400 --> 02:55:44,200 Charlotte killed Well, that's a damn lie. 2977 02:55:44,200 --> 02:55:47,200 You know, that makes him a damn liar. 2978 02:55:47,400 --> 02:55:51,600 That makes him no better than George w-- Bush at all. 2979 02:55:52,200 --> 02:55:54,100 And it's the same with all these guys. 2980 02:55:54,800 --> 02:56:00,000 There is nothing for you to believe in when it comes to the 2981 02:56:00,000 --> 02:56:03,300 American World Empire, there's just not and it shouldn't have 2982 02:56:03,300 --> 02:56:06,500 to hurt your ego to divorce yourself from it. 2983 02:56:06,500 --> 02:56:09,400 I mean, especially as a Libertarian, it's easy because 2984 02:56:09,400 --> 02:56:12,000 none of us ever liked Bill Clinton. 2985 02:56:12,100 --> 02:56:17,100 Or bush or Obama or Trump or by never. 2986 02:56:17,300 --> 02:56:20,700 So if we have to turn around and denounce their stupid policies 2987 02:56:20,700 --> 02:56:24,600 that they've done fine. Well, maybe you really like 2988 02:56:24,600 --> 02:56:26,900 George Bush for a little while. Well, you know what? 2989 02:56:26,900 --> 02:56:29,400 That was a long time ago. Maybe now you can admit that you 2990 02:56:29,408 --> 02:56:31,900 were wrong. Maybe you really thought that 2991 02:56:31,900 --> 02:56:34,900 Bill Clinton was a great Improvement on h.w. 2992 02:56:34,900 --> 02:56:36,000 Bush? Yeah. 2993 02:56:36,100 --> 02:56:37,600 Maybe now you can omit that know. 2994 02:56:37,600 --> 02:56:43,500 He got us attacked on September 11th, Expanding nato in 2995 02:56:43,500 --> 02:56:46,800 violation of Bush. Senior's promise and help pick 2996 02:56:46,800 --> 02:56:51,600 this fight with the Russians. Every single one of these guys 2997 02:56:52,500 --> 02:56:56,500 constantly threaten, the Chinese sale, their fleets in the Taiwan 2998 02:56:56,500 --> 02:57:00,000 Strait and all of these things and provoke, the Chinese even 2999 02:57:00,000 --> 02:57:03,600 asked the American Pentagon and they will tell you the Chinese 3000 02:57:03,600 --> 02:57:09,900 Doctrine is a2/ad Anti-access area-denial. 3001 02:57:12,400 --> 02:57:15,600 In other words, it's entirely defensive. 3002 02:57:16,600 --> 02:57:23,300 It's about keeping us out. Not creating a world Empire 3003 02:57:24,000 --> 02:57:30,100 America's the world Empire? And look so I mean he'll you 3004 02:57:30,100 --> 02:57:32,400 lean left. There's plenty of great leftist 3005 02:57:32,400 --> 02:57:36,200 for you to follow on this issue, starting with Chomsky and all 3006 02:57:36,200 --> 02:57:39,900 the way down got, you know, all kinds of great and look at 3007 02:57:39,900 --> 02:57:43,500 anti-war.com every single day. We're running great leftist and 3008 02:57:43,500 --> 02:57:46,300 all of their great work on all of this stuff. 3009 02:57:46,400 --> 02:57:50,500 And if you're right winger go, no further than Donald Trump who 3010 02:57:50,500 --> 02:57:52,800 said all this stuff is just absolutely stupid. 3011 02:57:52,800 --> 02:57:56,300 And frankly, you're stupid, if you believe in it too, that 3012 02:57:56,300 --> 02:57:57,300 should be all you need. Meek. 3013 02:57:59,200 --> 02:58:02,700 Certainly, yeah, yeah, yeah, leftist is very against things 3014 02:58:02,700 --> 02:58:05,600 like exploitation taking advantage of those in vulnerable 3015 02:58:05,600 --> 02:58:08,900 situations. Well, murder is the ultimate 3016 02:58:08,900 --> 02:58:12,200 form of, you know, claiming ownership over someone's life 3017 02:58:12,300 --> 02:58:14,500 and and permanently harming them. 3018 02:58:14,600 --> 02:58:17,200 So this should be at the top of their level. 3019 02:58:17,200 --> 02:58:19,900 You mentioned. We, of course, said they could 3020 02:58:19,900 --> 02:58:23,200 embrace the philosophy of Dwight Eisenhower or even thinks that 3021 02:58:23,200 --> 02:58:26,100 Trump said anything else. You would tell conservatives who 3022 02:58:26,100 --> 02:58:29,400 see the world through a civilization verse Prizm lens. 3023 02:58:29,600 --> 02:58:31,400 Why should they be anti-war anything else? 3024 02:58:31,600 --> 02:58:34,400 Sure, I mean back to the Liberals for a second and look 3025 02:58:34,400 --> 02:58:36,200 at the environmental Devastation. 3026 02:58:36,200 --> 02:58:40,400 The Pentagon burns more fossil fuels than Germany, right? 3027 02:58:40,400 --> 02:58:43,300 The Pentagon itself is like the third or fourth ranked, 3028 02:58:43,600 --> 02:58:45,600 sovereign state. In terms of pollution, if you 3029 02:58:45,600 --> 02:58:48,100 separate it from the rest of the United States of America. 3030 02:58:48,200 --> 02:58:50,800 And then, you know, all of those bomb. 3031 02:58:50,800 --> 02:58:55,400 Look at Iraq, where all of the bombardment of those explosives, 3032 02:58:56,600 --> 02:59:00,600 put all kinds of heavy metal, is that have been deeply buried in 3033 02:59:00,600 --> 02:59:05,200 those Desert Sands and does up into the air and made people 3034 02:59:05,200 --> 02:59:08,600 terribly sick, led to all kinds of problems. 3035 02:59:08,600 --> 02:59:12,800 You see depleted, uranium all over Iraq and all over, Serbia, 3036 02:59:12,900 --> 02:59:15,500 all over Afghanistan and this kind of thing. 3037 02:59:16,100 --> 02:59:19,500 The worst environmental Devastation on this planet comes 3038 02:59:19,500 --> 02:59:23,600 at the hands of the American Pentagon and so if you want to 3039 02:59:23,800 --> 02:59:27,200 you know stop pollution at all. You want to protect sea life you 3040 02:59:27,200 --> 02:59:30,800 want, you know, any of Of the major things protect endangered 3041 02:59:30,800 --> 02:59:33,800 species, any of the major things are even for that matter. 3042 02:59:33,800 --> 02:59:36,500 If you're into the global warming and and keeping carbon 3043 02:59:36,500 --> 02:59:39,500 dioxide out of the atmosphere, you have to oppose American 3044 02:59:39,500 --> 02:59:43,800 militarism. So key to it all major force in 3045 02:59:43,800 --> 02:59:46,300 all of it. And now, as far as 3046 02:59:46,300 --> 02:59:49,200 conservatives, I guess I'll go back to kind of what I was 3047 02:59:49,200 --> 02:59:53,600 trying to say at the beginning here, which is that you cannot 3048 02:59:53,600 --> 02:59:56,800 have a limited constitutional World Empire. 3049 02:59:57,500 --> 03:00:01,000 And you cannot have a world Empire and a free Society at 3050 03:00:01,000 --> 03:00:02,900 all. If we're going to keep our Bill 3051 03:00:02,900 --> 03:00:06,500 of Rights, you know, for old people listening to this, I know 3052 03:00:06,500 --> 03:00:10,100 you only care about one thing, your grandchildren. 3053 03:00:11,100 --> 03:00:14,400 Well, you want them to have the Bill of Rights or not. 3054 03:00:16,500 --> 03:00:18,600 Because they're either going to have it or they're not. 3055 03:00:20,500 --> 03:00:22,400 And you're not going to have the Bill of Rights if they don't 3056 03:00:22,400 --> 03:00:24,900 have the Constitution and then not going to have the 3057 03:00:24,900 --> 03:00:28,000 Constitution. If America Duval's into a 3058 03:00:28,000 --> 03:00:35,000 totalitarian police state in our vain attempt to conquer the 3059 03:00:35,000 --> 03:00:38,700 world and figure out a way to make the appeal, the American 3060 03:00:38,700 --> 03:00:42,500 people afford it. It's just not going to work. 3061 03:00:43,300 --> 03:00:45,200 Spin The Globe. Look at a map. 3062 03:00:46,100 --> 03:00:48,200 This is the middle part of North America. 3063 03:00:49,600 --> 03:00:53,700 All of South America, all Africa, Europe and Asia. 3064 03:00:54,900 --> 03:00:58,300 We can't rule it. We can't afford it. 3065 03:00:58,500 --> 03:01:02,400 We got a 30 trillion dollar debt and we're flat broke. 3066 03:01:03,700 --> 03:01:05,800 If we can afford it, you sure as hell. 3067 03:01:05,800 --> 03:01:09,300 Don't need to worry about Russia, China, India, Iran or 3068 03:01:09,300 --> 03:01:13,600 any, you know, middle rank power coming and taking the position 3069 03:01:13,700 --> 03:01:16,300 that we can't hold either. You know, when the 3070 03:01:16,308 --> 03:01:21,800 neoconservatives inaugurated the Cold War era, they called it Our 3071 03:01:21,800 --> 03:01:27,100 unipolar Moment was Charles Krauthammer the hawk in foreign 3072 03:01:27,100 --> 03:01:30,100 affairs. So now is our chance to set up 3073 03:01:30,100 --> 03:01:32,500 the world of way, we want it before. 3074 03:01:32,500 --> 03:01:35,600 Our Time runs out because eventually what's going to 3075 03:01:35,600 --> 03:01:40,400 happen is Brazil and India and China and some of these other 3076 03:01:40,400 --> 03:01:43,700 and health that matter Russia, they are going to gain in wealth 3077 03:01:44,300 --> 03:01:48,500 and they are going to become at least middle rank Powers enough 3078 03:01:48,500 --> 03:01:51,700 that we will have to respect them and their wishes to some 3079 03:01:51,700 --> 03:01:54,400 degree. They will be participants in the 3080 03:01:54,400 --> 03:01:58,900 global system as of that time, it's America, Britain and Japan, 3081 03:01:58,900 --> 03:02:02,000 Uber Alles, everybody's going to do, whatever the hell we say, 3082 03:02:02,000 --> 03:02:04,600 right? But that won't last. 3083 03:02:05,500 --> 03:02:10,800 It's our unipolar moment and the story was never that been 3084 03:02:11,200 --> 03:02:13,500 Russia. China, India, whoever are going 3085 03:02:13,500 --> 03:02:17,600 to replace us as the dominant power, it's just that it will 3086 03:02:17,800 --> 03:02:22,700 move from a unipolar planet to a multipolar planet. 3087 03:02:23,600 --> 03:02:27,300 It doesn't mean United Nations troops occupying, the United 3088 03:02:27,300 --> 03:02:31,300 States of America. It just means that the Americans 3089 03:02:31,400 --> 03:02:35,400 finally, again, although they ain't used to, it are going to 3090 03:02:35,400 --> 03:02:38,900 have to allow for a decent respect for the opinions of the 3091 03:02:38,900 --> 03:02:43,200 rest of mankind, instead of Simply having their way that's 3092 03:02:43,200 --> 03:02:45,000 it. And the truth is and I think 3093 03:02:45,000 --> 03:02:49,200 everybody can admit this now, you know, like, if you just 3094 03:02:49,200 --> 03:02:53,600 fundamentally disagree for real reasons, fine, but if it's an 3095 03:02:53,600 --> 03:03:00,000 emotional, hang up, get over it. The truth is, none of this had 3096 03:03:00,000 --> 03:03:02,700 to happen this way for the last 30 years. 3097 03:03:02,900 --> 03:03:07,100 From the end of the Soviet Union on we could have absolutely 3098 03:03:07,100 --> 03:03:10,900 abandon our Empire. Abolish NATO brought all of our 3099 03:03:10,900 --> 03:03:14,800 troops home from Europe Asia and the Middle East and just said 3100 03:03:14,800 --> 03:03:18,200 forget it. Limited constitutional republic 3101 03:03:18,200 --> 03:03:21,800 time. If Ron Paul had won the election 3102 03:03:21,800 --> 03:03:29,400 of 88 and 92 and Harry Brown had won the election of 96 and 2000 3103 03:03:29,800 --> 03:03:32,700 and Bill Clinton's bridge to the 21st century. 3104 03:03:32,800 --> 03:03:38,400 He would have been paved with freedom and liberty and gold, 3105 03:03:38,800 --> 03:03:42,000 and then more so than Ron Paul Harry. 3106 03:03:42,000 --> 03:03:47,500 Brown was such an Evangelical libertarian and especially when 3107 03:03:47,500 --> 03:03:52,300 it came to his point of view on the people of the world and he 3108 03:03:52,300 --> 03:03:54,900 was happy to see if you listen to a Statue of Liberty speech, 3109 03:03:54,900 --> 03:03:58,700 he gave it all the time. He's happy to tell the rest of 3110 03:03:58,700 --> 03:04:01,200 the world. You're not good enough, you're 3111 03:04:01,200 --> 03:04:03,000 not doing Liberty right? Right. 3112 03:04:04,100 --> 03:04:07,200 And he was determined that in America that we do Liberty, 3113 03:04:07,200 --> 03:04:10,000 right? That then we can show the rest 3114 03:04:10,000 --> 03:04:11,800 of the world. This is how it's done. 3115 03:04:12,700 --> 03:04:14,700 You're Bill of Rights. Isn't good enough. 3116 03:04:14,700 --> 03:04:19,700 Your criminal justice system is unfair, your markets are 3117 03:04:19,700 --> 03:04:22,500 corrupt. Your foreign policy is 3118 03:04:22,500 --> 03:04:25,800 aggressive. You should be doing it like we 3119 03:04:25,800 --> 03:04:30,900 do only instead of then standing you know up to our chest in a 3120 03:04:30,900 --> 03:04:33,100 pool of the blood of innocent people. 3121 03:04:33,200 --> 03:04:37,800 People, it would be Harry Brown. Meaning every word he said, and 3122 03:04:37,800 --> 03:04:40,600 it be seven billion other people on this planet going. 3123 03:04:40,600 --> 03:04:46,500 Hey, kind of makes a good point. And without being able even for 3124 03:04:46,500 --> 03:04:50,900 a moment, to pretend to be able to mock the American position 3125 03:04:51,400 --> 03:04:53,500 that you guys don't mean what you say. 3126 03:04:54,200 --> 03:04:56,400 And so we got the exact opposite of that, right? 3127 03:04:56,400 --> 03:04:59,100 We got Bill Clinton, spread the world Empire called it. 3128 03:04:59,100 --> 03:05:02,700 Free markets and democracy how h.w. 3129 03:05:02,700 --> 03:05:07,800 Bush killed a million people at least called it spreading 3130 03:05:07,800 --> 03:05:11,700 freedom. To the people of the world and 3131 03:05:11,700 --> 03:05:13,900 only Barack Obama even really tried to claim. 3132 03:05:13,900 --> 03:05:17,000 He was doing anything right? Trying to save some lives. 3133 03:05:17,000 --> 03:05:19,800 He lied in a few cases while he was just spending them. 3134 03:05:20,300 --> 03:05:26,200 But but Bill Clinton, especially in W, bush with his Global 3135 03:05:26,200 --> 03:05:29,500 Democratic Revolution. And all of that stuff they took 3136 03:05:29,500 --> 03:05:34,500 the good name of self government and private property and market 3137 03:05:34,500 --> 03:05:37,400 capitalism and they drove it into the ground. 3138 03:05:37,900 --> 03:05:42,700 And did the Exact opposite. The exact opposite of what Ron 3139 03:05:42,700 --> 03:05:44,400 Paul and Harry Brown would have done. 3140 03:05:44,600 --> 03:05:49,100 If they had won the elections, to see us through the end of the 3141 03:05:49,100 --> 03:05:51,400 20th century and the beginning of this one. 3142 03:05:51,800 --> 03:05:55,600 And so then never even mine w-- Bush. 3143 03:05:55,600 --> 03:06:01,300 Then if we didn't have to have a rack War one, we need to occupy 3144 03:06:01,300 --> 03:06:03,300 the Middle East. And we didn't need to expand 3145 03:06:03,300 --> 03:06:06,300 NATO into Eastern Europe during Bill Clinton. 3146 03:06:06,400 --> 03:06:08,600 And we sure as hell didn't need to do those things. 3147 03:06:08,800 --> 03:06:12,500 Any further under W bush. Barack Obama or any of the 3148 03:06:12,500 --> 03:06:15,700 consequences that came after that with Donald Trump and now 3149 03:06:15,700 --> 03:06:18,100 Joe Biden. They just didn't have to be this 3150 03:06:18,100 --> 03:06:21,700 way at all and everybody, no matter who you ever voted for. 3151 03:06:21,700 --> 03:06:25,200 If you're a hardcore reaganite, if you beat your son because he 3152 03:06:25,200 --> 03:06:28,600 didn't believe in George w-- Bush as hard as you did back 20 3153 03:06:28,600 --> 03:06:32,200 years ago, fine. You know what you ought to be 3154 03:06:32,200 --> 03:06:36,500 able to admit to yourself now? It's not right. 3155 03:06:36,800 --> 03:06:39,800 That this is what America does in the world that this is what 3156 03:06:39,800 --> 03:06:42,900 the American militarized police state does to the American 3157 03:06:42,900 --> 03:06:45,500 people in order to make it all possible. 3158 03:06:45,800 --> 03:06:49,800 We just need to call it off, it shouldn't hurt that bad to admit 3159 03:06:49,800 --> 03:06:54,800 that you were wrong. And, and again, hell, maybe even 3160 03:06:54,800 --> 03:06:56,800 just lie to yourself. And say, you know what, I never 3161 03:06:56,800 --> 03:06:58,400 did like that George w-- Bush, fine. 3162 03:06:58,400 --> 03:07:00,400 I don't care. You know what? 3163 03:07:02,100 --> 03:07:05,300 It doesn't have to be this way. It's not supposed to be this way 3164 03:07:05,700 --> 03:07:09,100 and it's not quaint. This is absolutely sound advice 3165 03:07:09,500 --> 03:07:13,100 for our society. Now that our government's 3166 03:07:13,100 --> 03:07:16,000 position and its relationship with the foreign nations of the 3167 03:07:16,000 --> 03:07:20,400 world should be peace, Commerce and honest friendship with all 3168 03:07:20,400 --> 03:07:25,700 nations, entangling alliances with none and that doesn't mean 3169 03:07:25,700 --> 03:07:28,500 by doctrine that we never have to fight and never have to 3170 03:07:28,500 --> 03:07:31,300 defend ourselves. But I'm just telling you the 3171 03:07:31,300 --> 03:07:36,200 reality is we have no enemies on this planet, take that globe and 3172 03:07:36,200 --> 03:07:38,700 spin it. There are no powers of the earth 3173 03:07:38,700 --> 03:07:42,100 that threaten us other than, as we talked about in the case of 3174 03:07:42,100 --> 03:07:46,200 Russia and China fights that our government is picking for us 3175 03:07:46,500 --> 03:07:49,600 with these powers that do have the ability to hit back, there's 3176 03:07:49,600 --> 03:07:53,300 nobody coming for us and we just we could live out the rest of 3177 03:07:53,308 --> 03:07:56,200 this Century, essentially in peace and prosperity. 3178 03:07:56,800 --> 03:08:01,000 You know, those guys Shermer and Some of these people who preach 3179 03:08:01,000 --> 03:08:03,100 that, like all the world has never been better. 3180 03:08:03,100 --> 03:08:06,800 Everything is so great now and they quite correctly, say you 3181 03:08:06,800 --> 03:08:08,900 read this kind of thing at reason Magazine from time to 3182 03:08:08,900 --> 03:08:12,900 time but there's less poverty and more self-government and 3183 03:08:12,900 --> 03:08:16,900 more rule of law as opposed to just rule of tribal Chief or 3184 03:08:16,900 --> 03:08:19,900 warlord or whatever right now in the world than ever before. 3185 03:08:20,400 --> 03:08:23,800 Fact, the number of democracies has decreased over the last 10 3186 03:08:23,800 --> 03:08:26,200 years, I was on the, on the upswing from there. 3187 03:08:26,200 --> 03:08:28,600 But the number of capitalist countries, the amount of wealth 3188 03:08:28,600 --> 03:08:32,300 and prosperity. In the world is at such a high 3189 03:08:32,300 --> 03:08:35,200 rate there, virtually nowhere in the world where people are 3190 03:08:35,200 --> 03:08:38,000 starving to death. And there are fewer places in 3191 03:08:38,000 --> 03:08:41,600 the world where people are going hungry than ever before. 3192 03:08:42,500 --> 03:08:50,200 Capitalism global capitalism is abolishing hunger from the face 3193 03:08:50,200 --> 03:08:53,000 of the Earth and is abolishing war. 3194 03:08:54,700 --> 03:08:58,100 There's one big exception, the United States of America, the 3195 03:08:58,100 --> 03:09:03,000 proclaimed champions of self-government and peace and 3196 03:09:03,000 --> 03:09:07,000 market capitalism are we're the greatest violators of it. 3197 03:09:07,000 --> 03:09:11,800 The worst Central planners the most violent destructors and the 3198 03:09:11,800 --> 03:09:15,700 only Society on the planet that has people under our 3199 03:09:15,700 --> 03:09:19,600 jurisdiction, starving to death, and that's the people of Yemen 3200 03:09:19,600 --> 03:09:25,200 and Somalia at the hands of our CIA in our pentagon But our 3201 03:09:25,200 --> 03:09:28,100 government picking on two of the weakest societies. 3202 03:09:28,100 --> 03:09:32,000 Most helpless societies on the face of the Earth for vested, 3203 03:09:32,000 --> 03:09:34,700 special interests countries and never attacked us again. 3204 03:09:34,700 --> 03:09:37,200 The only people ever attacked us out of Yemen of the guys were 3205 03:09:37,200 --> 03:09:40,600 fighting for now. Right? 3206 03:09:40,600 --> 03:09:42,900 And that's these are the only places on the planet where 3207 03:09:42,900 --> 03:09:46,100 people are starving in Afghanistan, where there have 3208 03:09:46,100 --> 03:09:50,600 this horrible, Great Depression, because of the now, complete and 3209 03:09:50,600 --> 03:09:54,400 total lack of Aid money that had been flowing in and had built 3210 03:09:54,400 --> 03:09:56,600 their entire economy of been structured on Aid money. 3211 03:09:56,600 --> 03:09:59,600 From the West has now been pulled completely out from under 3212 03:09:59,600 --> 03:10:04,100 them and they're, you know, surviving only on the aid of 3213 03:10:04,100 --> 03:10:08,200 foreign Nations and despite America keeping our sanctions on 3214 03:10:08,200 --> 03:10:11,100 them and trying to prevent food from getting through. 3215 03:10:11,600 --> 03:10:14,400 So people like Schirmer and those optimists are right 3216 03:10:14,400 --> 03:10:17,400 Jeffrey Tucker talks this way, reason magazine talks this way, 3217 03:10:17,400 --> 03:10:22,200 things are getting better for Humanity everywhere that should 3218 03:10:22,200 --> 03:10:24,200 be good but man it's sort of like I'm talking about the 3219 03:10:24,200 --> 03:10:26,900 libertarian party ought to be taking the lead on Yemen and 3220 03:10:26,900 --> 03:10:29,200 then we get to take a little bit of the credit for that too, 3221 03:10:29,200 --> 03:10:31,700 wouldn't that be nice. Well the United States of 3222 03:10:31,700 --> 03:10:35,300 America ought to be getting the credit for converting the planet 3223 03:10:35,300 --> 03:10:39,400 to self-government and capitalism but we don't we don't 3224 03:10:39,400 --> 03:10:40,800 get the credit. What do we do? 3225 03:10:41,000 --> 03:10:44,000 We came in with a bunch of IMF gangsters to steal your water 3226 03:10:44,000 --> 03:10:47,600 supply. Came in with the Marine Corps 3227 03:10:47,700 --> 03:10:52,500 and blew up your hospital. came in with the CIA, in the Air 3228 03:10:52,500 --> 03:10:58,200 Force drone, bombed, your school, your wedding, People go 3229 03:10:58,500 --> 03:11:01,000 Liberty. Liberty means when the Americans 3230 03:11:01,000 --> 03:11:04,200 burn a child to death, that's what Liberty means. 3231 03:11:05,700 --> 03:11:07,800 And now, how are we going to get over that Keith? 3232 03:11:07,800 --> 03:11:11,800 What's it going to take to change that narrative and then 3233 03:11:11,800 --> 03:11:16,400 so what do we get instead? We got like the kind of horror 3234 03:11:16,400 --> 03:11:19,100 movie version of our Bill of Rights. 3235 03:11:19,100 --> 03:11:21,800 We have the UN Declaration of Human Rights which is half 3236 03:11:21,800 --> 03:11:24,400 communism, right? Which half sit which says it's 3237 03:11:24,400 --> 03:11:27,200 your human right. Your natural human right to live 3238 03:11:27,200 --> 03:11:30,500 under a government, powerful enough to tax, everything your 3239 03:11:30,500 --> 03:11:32,400 neighbors. Got to give it all to you. 3240 03:11:33,700 --> 03:11:36,900 And you got the people of the world who see that as a much 3241 03:11:36,900 --> 03:11:41,300 more consistent set of libertarian principles than the 3242 03:11:41,300 --> 03:11:44,400 ones that the Americans apply with their Bill of Rights 3243 03:11:44,700 --> 03:11:49,200 soaking in blood. And it can you blame for that? 3244 03:11:49,200 --> 03:11:54,100 It's set our leaders and the people who believed in them, of 3245 03:11:54,100 --> 03:11:57,400 course, it's so important. Yes, critical race Theory can 3246 03:11:57,400 --> 03:12:01,600 certainly harm families, but world wars, tens of thousands of 3247 03:12:01,600 --> 03:12:03,900 unnecessary deaths. Men, who have to get 3248 03:12:03,900 --> 03:12:06,100 conscripted, get their limbs blown off. 3249 03:12:06,200 --> 03:12:08,900 This is the worst thing. So for the first, another one 3250 03:12:09,200 --> 03:12:12,200 for the pro-family side, they need to be the anti-war side 3251 03:12:12,200 --> 03:12:13,800 too. Yeah, and look, I mean on the 3252 03:12:13,800 --> 03:12:17,500 pro-family side to what does more to Upped the families of 3253 03:12:17,500 --> 03:12:20,800 the people in in the service and sending them off to War. 3254 03:12:21,200 --> 03:12:25,200 I mean, it's high suicide rates, yeah, High suicide rates, huge 3255 03:12:25,200 --> 03:12:29,600 divorce rates, you know, infidelity and broken marriages, 3256 03:12:30,400 --> 03:12:34,000 and then children who grow up in without their fathers, and all 3257 03:12:34,000 --> 03:12:37,900 of these things. And then look, I mean, as some 3258 03:12:38,600 --> 03:12:40,900 obviously, the case of the Vietnam where you have this 3259 03:12:40,900 --> 03:12:45,500 massive cultural revolution from the left in the Vietnam, 3260 03:12:45,600 --> 03:12:47,900 anti-war. Evening and he didn't have as 3261 03:12:47,900 --> 03:12:52,000 much of a left-wing anti-war movement during w-- Bush but it 3262 03:12:52,000 --> 03:12:55,100 is absolutely true. As Dave Smith has repeatedly 3263 03:12:55,300 --> 03:13:01,800 explained that the last real gasp of cultural dominance of 3264 03:13:01,800 --> 03:13:05,500 the American right was during w-- Bush. 3265 03:13:05,700 --> 03:13:09,200 When Donald Trump came to power, he did not bring the cultural 3266 03:13:09,200 --> 03:13:13,000 right back to Power. The cultural, liberals still 3267 03:13:13,000 --> 03:13:16,200 stayed, the dominant Force through TV through the me. 3268 03:13:16,300 --> 03:13:19,800 Idea through the police institutions, that frame Trump 3269 03:13:19,800 --> 03:13:22,800 for Russia, gate, and all of those things acting kind of as 3270 03:13:22,800 --> 03:13:26,700 antibodies preventing his disease from really taking 3271 03:13:26,700 --> 03:13:31,700 control over the government. So what happened during w-- 3272 03:13:31,700 --> 03:13:33,800 Bush? What happened was? 3273 03:13:33,800 --> 03:13:38,600 He lied us into war and everybody knows it and he lied 3274 03:13:38,600 --> 03:13:41,700 us into war because a bunch of ex-communist representing the 3275 03:13:41,700 --> 03:13:44,400 foreign nation of Israel wanted him to. 3276 03:13:44,900 --> 03:13:49,300 And because Dick Cheney was Is corrupt and owed money to the 3277 03:13:49,300 --> 03:13:52,800 gangsters of Halliburton, whose company, he had helped run into 3278 03:13:52,800 --> 03:13:57,300 the ground in the 1990s because Donald Rumsfeld wanted to prove 3279 03:13:57,300 --> 03:14:01,300 his theories about defanging or, you know, defunding the Army and 3280 03:14:01,300 --> 03:14:04,000 giving all their money to the Air Force and Special Operations 3281 03:14:04,000 --> 03:14:05,800 forces. Instead, in other words, his 3282 03:14:05,800 --> 03:14:10,600 little Pet Project right? And they lied us into war and 3283 03:14:10,600 --> 03:14:13,800 they got you know, 4700 Americans killed a million 3284 03:14:13,800 --> 03:14:20,100 araki's killed Cuz 30,000 something suicide and everybody 3285 03:14:20,100 --> 03:14:23,300 knows. It was all for nothing, nobody 3286 03:14:23,300 --> 03:14:25,500 believes in. Last time, anybody believed it 3287 03:14:25,500 --> 03:14:30,200 was when ramadi fell to Isis in 2015 and I said, oh my God, I 3288 03:14:30,208 --> 03:14:34,600 can't believe this not one man who served in Iraq war to could. 3289 03:14:34,600 --> 03:14:37,200 Now say that he was proud of what he did over there other 3290 03:14:37,200 --> 03:14:39,000 than maybe saving his buddy's life. 3291 03:14:39,100 --> 03:14:43,100 But in terms of the war that they fought for this faction 3292 03:14:43,100 --> 03:14:45,200 against that faction and then look what it. 3293 03:14:45,300 --> 03:14:49,200 All came to and then no one ever believed in the conservatives. 3294 03:14:49,200 --> 03:14:54,800 Again, they blew their entire wad on lying us into war on 3295 03:14:54,800 --> 03:14:58,300 supporting torture. And then what was their last 3296 03:14:58,300 --> 03:15:00,700 gasp? Their real last gasp was trying 3297 03:15:00,700 --> 03:15:05,000 to prevent gay adults from getting married to each other. 3298 03:15:06,300 --> 03:15:09,300 Yep. You wonder why Libertarians are 3299 03:15:09,300 --> 03:15:11,300 happy to split the vote against you guys. 3300 03:15:11,300 --> 03:15:13,500 It's because you don't believe in Freedom. 3301 03:15:13,500 --> 03:15:17,200 Do you not really? Do you hate the left? 3302 03:15:17,200 --> 03:15:21,600 And you don't like what the left is doing to your freedom, but do 3303 03:15:21,600 --> 03:15:25,200 you believe in other people's right to be free and live any 3304 03:15:25,300 --> 03:15:29,100 way other than how you say American, right? 3305 03:15:29,500 --> 03:15:33,100 We know that an aunt in practice, the answer is no and 3306 03:15:33,100 --> 03:15:36,500 that's why we hate you. You know, the polls showed 3307 03:15:36,800 --> 03:15:41,100 throughout the entire Bush era. The more you went to church, the 3308 03:15:41,100 --> 03:15:45,200 more you supported torture. And that's because the more you 3309 03:15:45,208 --> 03:15:48,100 went to church, the more you were committed to political 3310 03:15:48,100 --> 03:15:55,500 conservatism and the Republican party and this fools golden idol 3311 03:15:56,000 --> 03:16:02,400 George w-- Bush. This scum, this half a man And 3312 03:16:02,400 --> 03:16:06,400 they were willing to worship him and put his doctrine of 3313 03:16:06,400 --> 03:16:12,900 torturing innocent men to death. Over the Mandate of their 3314 03:16:12,900 --> 03:16:18,000 Christ, who ordered them in The Sermon, on the Mount, to turn 3315 03:16:18,000 --> 03:16:20,800 the other cheek and to preach peace. 3316 03:16:21,600 --> 03:16:27,700 It was conservatism and republicanism it was politics 3317 03:16:28,700 --> 03:16:34,400 that destroyed the American right and cost them the last of 3318 03:16:34,400 --> 03:16:37,000 their credibility among the American people. 3319 03:16:37,100 --> 03:16:38,900 And how are they ever going to get it back? 3320 03:16:39,600 --> 03:16:42,400 You still can't get more than a third of them to be anti-war 3321 03:16:42,400 --> 03:16:47,400 right now, the leaders of the house and the senate in the 3322 03:16:47,400 --> 03:16:51,300 Republican Party are no less worse than John McCain and 3323 03:16:51,300 --> 03:16:53,500 George W. Bush and Dick Cheney right now. 3324 03:16:54,400 --> 03:16:58,300 Mitch McConnell would lead the war against Russia right now. 3325 03:17:00,000 --> 03:17:06,000 And so, if you only care about yourselves right Wingers, you 3326 03:17:06,000 --> 03:17:09,200 should note, this is why people don't believe. 3327 03:17:09,400 --> 03:17:13,400 Even you it's all of the blood of innocent people that you 3328 03:17:13,400 --> 03:17:16,100 shed. Its all of the lies that you 3329 03:17:16,100 --> 03:17:20,100 were willing to repeat the most horrible sins that you were 3330 03:17:20,100 --> 03:17:24,600 willing to countenance made people not believe in you 3331 03:17:24,900 --> 03:17:27,600 anymore. You want to change that and 3332 03:17:27,600 --> 03:17:30,200 going to have to get good on something. 3333 03:17:31,000 --> 03:17:35,100 You know, us, Libertarians, we're good on guns and peace. 3334 03:17:36,800 --> 03:17:40,000 Conservatives are good on guns because the arms manufacturers 3335 03:17:40,000 --> 03:17:44,200 want to war and bribe them to pretend to believe in Freedom on 3336 03:17:44,200 --> 03:17:47,900 one issue because it sounds sort of like what they need. 3337 03:17:47,900 --> 03:17:52,000 So they can sell what so they can sell guns to the government. 3338 03:17:53,200 --> 03:17:56,400 Not to the American people. People say how come the NRA 3339 03:17:56,400 --> 03:18:00,000 doesn't stick up for an innocent black guy when he gets shot by a 3340 03:18:00,000 --> 03:18:02,400 cop? Well, how come the NRA doesn't 3341 03:18:02,400 --> 03:18:06,000 stick up for an innocent. Anyone ever when they get shot 3342 03:18:06,000 --> 03:18:08,700 by a cop? You can be the whitest guy in 3343 03:18:08,700 --> 03:18:11,000 Minnesota. They won't stick up for you when 3344 03:18:11,000 --> 03:18:15,000 you get shot by a cop because they're not the right of the 3345 03:18:15,000 --> 03:18:17,500 people to keep and bear arms Lobby. 3346 03:18:18,600 --> 03:18:23,700 They represent the gun manufacturers, who want to sell 3347 03:18:23,700 --> 03:18:29,100 guns, who to, you know, to the captive Market of the American 3348 03:18:29,100 --> 03:18:33,900 police, and the American Military because that's where 3349 03:18:33,900 --> 03:18:38,400 they make their money. You want the NRA to stick up for 3350 03:18:38,400 --> 03:18:41,700 your interests when you're going to have to make the private gun 3351 03:18:41,700 --> 03:18:43,600 Market? The most important gun Market in 3352 03:18:43,600 --> 03:18:46,800 America? And when you're not competing 3353 03:18:46,800 --> 03:18:49,200 with the Pentagon and the Department of Homeland Security 3354 03:18:49,200 --> 03:18:51,000 anymore. Maybe they'll begin to give a 3355 03:18:51,000 --> 03:18:55,800 damn about you. Also, vitally important, it's 3356 03:18:55,900 --> 03:18:58,700 not that to they have to abandon their ideas and embrace the 3357 03:18:58,700 --> 03:19:00,900 non-aggression principle. Even though I think everyone 3358 03:19:00,900 --> 03:19:03,600 should have course, they can embrace the ideas of Thou shalt 3359 03:19:03,600 --> 03:19:05,900 not steal, and thou shalt not murder. 3360 03:19:06,100 --> 03:19:10,800 It's it's so important. People can check out LP dot-org. 3361 03:19:10,800 --> 03:19:12,900 Join today. Check out the libertarian party 3362 03:19:13,100 --> 03:19:14,800 platform Scott. Horton. 3363 03:19:14,800 --> 03:19:17,000 Thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it. 3364 03:19:17,500 --> 03:19:18,300 As always. Thank you.