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Joining me to discuss Curtis 
garvin's, take on 

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libertarianism. 
And anarcho-capitalism is Ace 

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artist. 
One of the first things that 

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stood out to me, was his debate 
with Robin Hanson. 

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I titled this finding the best 
chess player is how he 

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summarizes his view of 
government. 

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So when he was asked by an 
audience member, my he was asked

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what his form of government 
would look like, considering he 

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was very critical of Robin 
Hansen's, futhark e. 

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He says my alternative is very 
simple. 

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I think that government should 
be run. 

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Exactly. 
The way companies are. 

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I believe that it should be how 
you do select the person to run.

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It should be selected by the 
financial beneficiaries of The 

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Sovereign, the sovereignty is 
always going to be extremely 

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profitable. 
Public employees should have 

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Financial stake in how well, 
California does, for example. 

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Ace. 
What is your response to the 

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Arvin summarizing his idea on? 
What a good alternative to the 

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current system is well. 
So here's system. 

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Kind of it's this idea that you 
want to structure. 

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So his view of a company is 
essentially a monarchy, right? 

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You have a guy at the top even 
though will technically would 

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cos you have a board at the top.
But, you know, besides for that,

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you know, you have a guy or a 
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then threw down, you have 
workers and his idea of 

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structuring a government. 
This way is essentially he 

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thinks that state will be run 
more efficiently in this mine 

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article structure. 
If you I want to call it that 

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for this reason a couple 
disagreements. 

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I have with this one when he's 
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corporations and current like 
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As they are today in today's 
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It doesn't necessarily reflect 
how it would be without say 

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Powers, right? 
So you can't just assume. 

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Look at these companies and 
assume that they're like these 

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free-floating abstractions or 
these islands disconnect from 

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State power as it is currently. 
So when he's Making an analogy 

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to this. 
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fact that these companies, a lot
of these companies can grow to 

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such a size in the first place 
because of the state power in as

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its structured. 
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might not necessarily might see 
different types of firms rise 

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up. 
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amount of like de facto ceiling 
on the firm's themselves so that

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they can't grow to a certain 
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structured in different way. 
This is commonly called 

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diseconomies of scale. 
The most people have heard of 

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economies. 
Of scale. 

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Diseconomies of scale is when a 
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certain level the bureaucracy 
within the firm can cause 

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information, but like to be 
bogged down in like choked and 

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channels. 
So this means that they tend to 

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miss allocate their own 
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So if you want to structure a 
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that would be, it would be 
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problems. 
As a big Corporation will do it 

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without state benefits. 
It's weird that he says, I think

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that the government should be 
run. 

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Exactly, the way companies are 
considering. 

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It's not like there's a small 
technical difference. 

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Like, well, they both are 
pyramid structure organizations.

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The company. 
Can't. 

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Well, some companies depending 
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fascism, or more of a free 
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It, they can't expand, unless 
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Demand on a relatively large 
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And if they do wish to, Keep 
opening up branches and no one 

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buys their stuff. 
Well, they bear the cost. 

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They don't have a monopoly on 
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could just continue to print and
devalue the dollars in everyone 

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else's pocket. 
So there's this self-correcting 

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mechanism. 
This monarchy does not have this

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self-correcting mechanism. 
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So, of course, you can say, 
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not take polls to see if people 
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Well, there's a big difference 
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People saying they like 
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having to bear the cost of 
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something and when you're 
dealing with the scarce 

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resources of the world you want 
to make sure people have some 

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skin in the game. 
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is always going to be extremely 
profitable. 

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Public employees should have 
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California does. 
I don't see anything wrong wrong

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with that, but the only reason 
that I would not Or something 

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like that is because human 
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stake in how well, their victims
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Financial stake and Glenn, 
Maxwell and all slave owners. 

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Have you could say well the 
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uses his low time preference to 
make sure the slaves are better.

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Treated doesn't make sense to 
just murder them like they're in

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a gulag, but a system of slavery
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profitability of this individual
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guaranteed food, guaranteed 
housing. 

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So this is kind of an efficient 
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organization. 
None of that justifies. 

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It nor does it say what you have
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So yes, the slave could be 
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But what if he had more choices,
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than one Sovereign, if they had 
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You're The Sovereign of your 
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If you'd like to equivocate 
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Sovereign sort of be on their 
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Competing with each other to 
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The mass has a more profitable 
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Anything else? 
On this concept of we don't need

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democracy. 
We need to find the best chess 

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player and give him the job of 
Chess Master. 

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Yeah. 
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well there, you know, the 
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problems of information and 
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has no, you know, he in some 
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He's a monopoly because he's 
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you Not really compare like how 
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another like group is do or how 
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unless they're like, right next 
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kind of like judge a little bit 
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people moving by their feet into
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You can sort of Judge it that 
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as the bright. 
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would be if you could 
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were going to spend what you 
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service you were going to 
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a monarch. 
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really you as high except 
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So the people, the people who 
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from any type of knowledge are 
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or either are in that exact 
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knowledge through the price 
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suffers a fails in both of those
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Next claim is this repeated 
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government as a tool calling it.
A tool is sort of implying 

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neutrality on this page. 
Anything in italics is an actual

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quote, from this discussion, the
link to the video in the title 

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video is at the bottom of the 
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So he first starts off, if you 
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killer obviously, implying. 
You know, what? 

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What comes from that This is 
something terrible. 

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What he fails to do is 
discriminate between something 

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inherently bad, rape slavery, 
genocide kidnapping versus a 

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lack of utility that something 
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something that just needs 
Improvement. 

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Like it wouldn't make sense to 
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say you tried building the 
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It's inherently wrong, move on 
to do something else. 

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Well, they just need to try a 
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He's calling government where 
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To own literally on the bodies 
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They have a higher claimed your 
body than you do without any 

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contract existing, without 
getting your consent and he's 

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referring to this as a neutral 
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What are your thoughts on 
government is a tool? 

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Just like a hammer or a butcher 
knife implying neutrality. 

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Yeah. 
This is I often see this one a 

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lot. 
So the state has never been 

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defined as just some neutral 
tool, right? 

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So this is what the government 
is when Libertarians are an irk.

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When we were talking about the 
government, we're not merely 

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talking about a governance 
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like a person would govern their
property or something like that.

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Right? 
So we need to make this 

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distinction, very clear, the 
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libertarian criticized. 
It is an orientation. 

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It's an orientation of these 
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leave in favor of legalized 
aggression, right? 

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That is what the state is. 
It's a modality. 

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It's not merely, it's not merely
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It's a car. 
Being driven like on it on a 

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suicide track towards a wall, 
right? 

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That's that's what the state is.
So you can't sit you. 

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So, when we're talking about it,
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Let's try to pass more to 
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We have to Define things by what
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We have to Define them have by 
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regard to make an actual 
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So, when we're talking about 
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state, we have to imagine. 
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Take away the state's functions.
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What makes the state unique, 
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aggression. 
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Monopoly on aggression. 
If we take this away, what are 

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with is just another firm on the
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It would not at that point. 
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they didn't have a legal 
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would not be legally justified 
in aggressing against other 

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people who just wanted to like 
compete for security services or

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anything like that. 
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collect taxation. 
So the state is a modality. 

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It's a It's a it's a structure 
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Its a structure of a certain 
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It's not us. 
It can't exist. 

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If you take away all of its 
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He goes on to say this is sort 
of deconstructing the 

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libertarian mindset. 
He says, the fact that is 

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basically driving Libertarians 
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Let's imagine a world with no 
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And everyone is his own King. 
So right there, that is not 

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exactly what drives me 
necessarily. 

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It could just be our hatred for 
the cathedral or it's funny. 

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He debated Robin Hanson and 
Robin. 

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Anson's whole thing in his book,
The Elephant and the brain is 

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whatever people say, their 
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that's the first thing you could
cross off the list. 

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Because what people do is their 
brain acts as a press secretary 

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for what they really want to do.
So when he says, when he's 

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trying to get at the psychology 
of what makes what drives people

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to something, and he says, let's
imagine a world with no 

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government in. 
Everyone is his own King 

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considering that he does not 
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Between voluntary contract, 
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Monarch. 
This makes no sense at all. 

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If any libertarian has a job 
that he appreciates and thinks 

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is morally legitimate where he 
has to, you know, follow the 

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rules or regulations, I guess 
since we're not since we're not 

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differentiating between the 
state and Society. 

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Also, even if you are the boss, 
I remember saying I don't want 

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to stinkin boss. 
So my friend and I arted our own

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landscaping business. 
Well, it turns out that every 

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customer was our boss and there 
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As there's the people that have 
no boss, and they have no 

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constraints, and they just sit 
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That's not a thing. 
So, I don't see anywhere where 

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you're just your own King, even 
the people that I know who had 

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who are recovering from drug 
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that. 
A lot of them recognized at some

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point in their life. 
They have to basically hand over

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there are Higher schedule. 
When they wake up, what they do 

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when they're up, when they go to
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read, Think Places. 
It's okay to go this what an and

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calm might see as, like, pure 
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Sometimes, that's what people 
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And if they have the choice, to 
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get their life in order from 
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that, that there's nothing wrong
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categorized as dating kingship 
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So I don't even think he's 
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that is basically driving 
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Everyone is his own King. 

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Do you see that? 
Yeah. 

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I mean, I I kind of see, like, I
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at, in the sense that everyone 
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everyone is their own Sovereign 
in the moral Sovereign. 

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Sorry. 
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Sovereign, in the sense that you
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encroach upon another person's 
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Chris, right, so I can kind of 
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but I think you're correct that 
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distinction here, which is that 
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least, you know, within their 
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They can delegate certain light 
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associate with a king, right. 
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associate the king with like, 
working a king working. 

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Someone else's field, you know, 
stuff like that. 

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Yeah, even if let's just say 
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poll and every libertarian was 
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the fact that everyone's their 
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I don't see that as if we think 
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Sovereign, the final decision 
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anything bad necessarily. 
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what's really driving this 
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The And people are against 
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want women to be the queen of 
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That's really what's driving it.
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I don't see how that's anything 
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And second of all, let's say I'm
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I don't see how everyone is his 
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I think I mean that doesn't 
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off that if we just said that 
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like You know, you're just 
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right to life. 
And, you know, I'm a Europeans 

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critique and if we're going to 
like stretch the analogy would 

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be saying. 
Well, that's silly people get 

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murdered right? 
It's like, well, yeah, they do 

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get murdered but the fact that 
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they don't have the right to 
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It doesn't. 
It's not addressing. 

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What were actually saying, of 
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wanting to arrange her actions 
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That ideal Jarvan continues. 
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because it's a hyper stimulus 
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Oh, everyone gets to be king is 
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He should have a supermodel 
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It continues on the next page, 
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importance to say. 
There was no King over. 

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You is to say you're a king 
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dopamine Rush where everyone is 
a king. 

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That's a Her childish, desire 
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So the first thing I thought of 
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everyone is their own King, it's
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There's always constraints. 
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In the sense of literally 
anything goes at any time, for 

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whatever reason in indefinitely 
in what amount. 

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I mean, all you have to do is 
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Kings like Kaiser Wilhelm or 
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He was. 
Yeah, once a king and then we're

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tired. 
Alone on like some Island. 

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S is far as calling it a 
childish desire again. 

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I could use the Jim Crow analogy
of. 

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It's very childish, just to tell
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Oh, you shouldn't have these 
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These are in positions that 
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Childish. 
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say, all of our views stem from 
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But what comes to mind? 
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is Probably someone who believes
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right to tell everyone else what
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other people's interests or 
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wrong. 
And it's also someone who's very

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arrogant. 
Like, like if you talk to the 

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kids who I used to babysit for 
my first job in the after-school

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program at at an elementary 
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The kids would be like, what do 
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I'm gonna be a football player 
and a basketball player, and a 

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baseball player, and an 
astronaut. 

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And President. 
And I'm going to be a chef like 

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Gordon Ramsay. 
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kids literally thought that is 
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how complex the world is and 
being good at. 

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Even one of those jobs, takes a 
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So, you'd have to be very 
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there could be a king who could 
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distributed through the grid, 
and he's going to make everyone 

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happy and he's going to control 
the economy. 

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Everyone's going to get fed. 
He's gonna know. 

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How to get computers to 
everyone. 

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He's going to know how to make 
microphones a certain way. 

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He's going to make sure ceiling 
fans are constantly improving. 

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There's just the right amount of
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of savings. 
The dollar won't get devalued 

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over time because of the 
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money to increase consumption 
now and decrease consumption in 

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the future. 
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okay, maybe it is but it's not 
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listen to me. 
What? 

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I say, goes, I rule over you 
rules. 

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Apply to me differently than to 
you. 

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That's like every child who's 
just over entitled. 

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Either way. 
It's a total strawman thoughts 

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on and caps are just kids. 
Yeah. 

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Well, I think this is just, you 
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before. 
It's just like this is in some 

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sense, a childish critique. 
So when he's saying that 

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Libertarians are childish, you 
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holds any type of moral view, 
right, anyone who holds any type

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of moral view, I guess. 
You could say is childish. 

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Right? 
If you're against murder rape 

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theft, you know, you're against 
these things with the knowledge 

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that they will still occur. 
Right? 

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So the fact that we understand 
that the still occur, but we're 

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still against them. 
If that's childish. 

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Then you just have to write off 
every single moral proposition 

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as childish, I guess which I 
your oven might do. 

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I can't speak for him, but he 
might do that. 

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So well, say it say that you do.
Write it off as childish. 

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Yeah, you could say. 
Well, these are people. 

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He wants compared. 
Well, people talking about what 

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should and shouldn't. 
Be well, these are just sort of 

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people who have no control over 
government. 

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They're like a guy on an island 
demanding, that a prime rib, 

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medium-rare be sent to him. 
They have no influence. 

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Well, as opposed to him. 
Who, what is he calling? 

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The shots? 
And by this time next week, the 

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Monarch will be ushered in and 
we know for a fact, this is 

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coming. 
And he's very realistic and his 

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desires, like, him trying to 
change public opinion. 

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Well, that's just virtuous. 
And it's very informative. 

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But when other People try to do 
it just by explaining the rights

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that people have. 
Well, that's a childish desire. 

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Like, you know, Tom woods and 
Cast Away, Tom ones Tom Hanks in

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Castaway. 
Just demanding that a plane. 

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Come come and save him. 
So again, this constant double 

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standards of very high standards
for the Libertarians and like no

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standards for the Monarch and, 
you know, going back to his 

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whole idea about monarchy when 
he was starting to, I like how 

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he thinks, the government should
be run like a business. 

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I think the Problem with that, 
is that when he's talking about 

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these firms, these firms don't 
exist on an island, they exist 

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in a market with other firms, 
right? 

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So you can't really like when 
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distinction. 
You can't really the analogy, in

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my opinion, just doesn't work, 
because he's trying to say, 

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well, I want the government 
structured like a business, 

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which is not structured like a 
government, right? 

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So it just kind of it circles 
back in on itself and collapses.

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So, I had mentioned again on 
this slide, something that came 

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to mind is that the consumers 
King is mises common phrase. 

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We always have--can strange even
in a totally voluntary Society 

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such as free disassociation. 
This is a commonly referred to 

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as the constrained worldview by 
Thomas soul in his book, a 

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conflict of Visions, which could
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the realities of The Human 
Condition. 

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We are all limited by Pendant 
realities which we ignore to our

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own detriment. 
So you could call it very 

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childish to think that there's a
king who just doesn't have any 

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constraints. 
And what he says goes and 

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there's no negative effects and 
he can just be the Monarch go 

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over millions and millions of 
complete strangers. 

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The concept of freedom to 
disassociate is a great check 

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and balance. 
That would not allow. 

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Someone that even had these 
childish desires to exist. 

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So if you take the supermodel 
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Yeah, there's part of 
libertarian theory that says you

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can have a supermodel wife, but 
the same exact Theory also says,

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the supermodel has the right to 
reject you, and whoever else for

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whatever reason. 
So, it's not childish to say you

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can get it if you want. 
By the way, the same thing 

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exists for the other side of the
equation. 

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I think what's child as you're 
saying that there's a monarchy 

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and it's a one-way Street. 
I would think that the adult 

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would say. 
Yes, there's your desires and 

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then there's other people's 
desires and you have to bring 

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these into harmony. 
So even this straw man, I don't 

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think holds up any final words 
on, childish and caps. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah, why I do want to address 

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like the constrained view of 
humanity? 

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Because I think that's 
essential, right? 

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You can't like I don't think you
can even talk about governmental

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systems unless you take that 
into account real. 

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Aesthetically. 
I think talking about 

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governmental systems without 
understanding the constraint, 

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the constraint of human beings 
of human nature. 

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Your dad is childish, right? 
That that is ultimately childish

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because he, the whole point 
about the the constraint view of

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human nature of human beings. 
Anyway, is that, our knowledge 

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is limited and our knowledge is 
extremely limited. 

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And you know, this factors into 
mises is calculation problem 

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Hayek's use of knowledge in 
society. 

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You can't Imagine you some Uber 
manager, some king or something 

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or some Central planner, right? 
Because that's ultimately what 

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the Monarch is. 
Even if you even if you accept 

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which I generally do that a 
monarch has better incentives 

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than a democratic system. 
It the Monarch still suffers 

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from those economic calculation 
problems and those problems of 

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knowledge. 
So the idea that a monarch could

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just exist and be able to 
calculate everyone's needs or 

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like what they need in any given
area and a given. 

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Time. 
That's childish. 

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And you can still hold that 
view, that monarchy is 

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preferable to most monarchies 
are preferable to most 

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democracies, but you still have 
to recognize the importance of 

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being able to even superior to. 
The monarchy is being able to 

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disassociate from a bad Monarch 
who you don't find Value. 

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And like look, ideally parents 
have the good incentive to have 

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a low time, preference with 
their children. 

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To leave their estate to them 
and then their kids leave their 

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estate to their kids at 
infinitum, but there's bad 

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parents who beat their kids and 
don't have it cut one because 

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00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:11,700
maybe they're evil. 
Just like the Monarch could be 

458
00:24:11,700 --> 00:24:14,100
evil or they're just so 
ignorant. 

459
00:24:14,100 --> 00:24:17,000
Just as the Monarch can be 
ignorant. 

460
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,800
So for the same reason, it's not
just inherently good, that 

461
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,900
there's a monarch with a low 
time, preference co-owns, the 

462
00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:26,100
people in the property. 
There's a lot of drug addicts 

463
00:24:26,100 --> 00:24:32,700
who own their own property and 
Basically piss it into the wind.

464
00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:34,800
So even though they are the 
essential owner. 

465
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,300
You need the freedom to 
disassociate with these Bad 

466
00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:40,700
actors which monarchism leaves 
out and that's a major 

467
00:24:40,700 --> 00:24:42,800
shortcoming incentives are not 
guarantees. 

468
00:24:43,900 --> 00:24:48,500
Of course, the point of 
Divergence I think is important 

469
00:24:49,700 --> 00:24:53,300
cards Garvin says, in referring 
to was a narco capitalist and 

470
00:24:53,300 --> 00:24:56,200
Libertarians. 
He says that they're halfway out

471
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,100
of the Matrix, so it's good that
they have. 

472
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:02,600
Have a number of Court 
criticisms of the state and 

473
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,800
Society. 
However, the shortcoming he 

474
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,000
says, is they don't believe in 
anything, productive or 

475
00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:13,900
effective either, which I think 
is an unjustified criticism 

476
00:25:13,900 --> 00:25:17,700
because it doesn't get to the 
distinguishing feature of what 

477
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:22,100
the and cap says. 
He simply says that no person 

478
00:25:22,100 --> 00:25:24,800
has the right to rule or 
initiate aggression to do. 

479
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,800
So was claiming rulership our 
ownership over another person 

480
00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,500
and capitalism. 
Is just saying a social system 

481
00:25:30,500 --> 00:25:33,400
based on the explicit 
recognition of private property 

482
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,700
and voluntary contracts between 
private property owners. 

483
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,000
So to say that they don't 
believe in anything. 

484
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,800
Productive either is sort of 
like saying the restaurant is 

485
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,500
useless because all it does is 
serve food. 

486
00:25:45,500 --> 00:25:47,200
And doesn't tell us the meaning 
of life. 

487
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,100
And Apple Store just sells 
laptops, which is useless 

488
00:25:51,100 --> 00:25:53,100
because without food you starve 
to death. 

489
00:25:53,100 --> 00:25:55,900
Well, the role of the Apple 
Store and the role of the 

490
00:25:55,900 --> 00:25:59,100
libertarian idea and the role of
the Abolitionist and the role of

491
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,500
Of the sub stack writer is not 
to give you every single thing. 

492
00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:07,000
You need. 
Its to find a distinguishing 

493
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,300
feature in society, philosophy 
and try to emphasize their 

494
00:26:12,300 --> 00:26:14,500
specialization in their division
of labor. 

495
00:26:14,500 --> 00:26:18,200
So he talks of his criticism 
could be categorized as an 

496
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,500
arbitrary overlap. 
It's like saying, the problem 

497
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:26,300
with Communists is all the black
wearing and all the rioting and 

498
00:26:26,300 --> 00:26:28,800
the bricks through Windows. 
Yeah, they do that. 

499
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:31,900
And They just pretty much are 
all idiots. 

500
00:26:31,900 --> 00:26:35,500
Virtually everyone. 
I meet from professors to the 

501
00:26:35,500 --> 00:26:38,900
average student at Arizona 
State, but that's not the 

502
00:26:38,900 --> 00:26:41,400
distinguishing features 
abolition of private property. 

503
00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,900
So, if I'm criticizing that 
concept, that's where I'd Focus 

504
00:26:45,900 --> 00:26:48,800
not on things that this is how 
they happen to be. 

505
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,000
Now. 
Well, in the 70s, Robert nozick 

506
00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,900
and Murray rothbard were 
different types of an Caps or 

507
00:26:53,900 --> 00:26:57,400
Republicans were different under
George Bush than they were under

508
00:26:57,500 --> 00:26:59,100
Trump. 
That that doesn't get. 

509
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,000
It to the bottom line of the 
idea of look at Democrats from 

510
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,000
the 60s to today. 
The leftist, you would not 

511
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,100
recognize these people with 
their talking points at least. 

512
00:27:10,100 --> 00:27:13,500
So this, I think saying that 
we're halfway out of the Matrix,

513
00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,700
we don't believe in anything 
productive is a very weak 

514
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,500
criticism. 
What are your thoughts on this? 

515
00:27:18,900 --> 00:27:20,700
Yeah, you know, I would just 
pair it with you said pretty 

516
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:23,600
much because it's like saying 
we're not if we don't believe 

517
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,000
anything productive. 
Well, I, you know, I guess you'd

518
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,000
really have to decide if he 
wants to justify that claim. 

519
00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:29,100
I would really have to know 
what. 

520
00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:30,900
Means by productive. 
Exactly. 

521
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,800
Is it seems like most 
Libertarians? 

522
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:36,900
I know most and caps that, you 
know, most are because I know in

523
00:27:36,908 --> 00:27:42,000
general is very much. 
So do support production, right?

524
00:27:42,100 --> 00:27:44,400
In fact, one of the main 
criticisms against the state. 

525
00:27:44,500 --> 00:27:48,800
Is that it is, it pray? 
It's a predator that preys on 

526
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,100
the productive class, right? 
So the idea that when we don't 

527
00:27:52,100 --> 00:27:55,700
believe in anything productive, 
well, it all depends on what he 

528
00:27:55,700 --> 00:27:58,900
means by that and going back to 
your point when you're just 

529
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:03,000
resizing one aspect of something
that someone is not doing or 

530
00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,300
that they're doing in a way. 
You don't like, for example, 

531
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:07,700
what you said about like 
whenever we're specializing in, 

532
00:28:07,700 --> 00:28:10,400
we're focusing on one single 
aspect of something. 

533
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,900
We're always doing it at the 
expense of all other things. 

534
00:28:12,900 --> 00:28:14,800
We're not talking about at that 
one time, right? 

535
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:16,400
Like you and I could be talking 
about something completely 

536
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,700
different right now and people 
could criticize this. 

537
00:28:18,700 --> 00:28:19,900
Well, why aren't you talking 
about? 

538
00:28:19,900 --> 00:28:22,000
You know, X Y or Z instead? 
It's right. 

539
00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:24,400
So anytime you dedicate yourself
to any one thing you're doing it

540
00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,400
at the expense at that time of 
all others. 

541
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:27,300
So yeah. 
Yeah. 

542
00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:31,100
I just I don't really see this 
even As a comprehensible 

543
00:28:31,100 --> 00:28:35,400
critique. 
Yeah, that was sort of broth 

544
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:40,500
bards main claim in power and 
Market, the addition to man, 

545
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:44,200
economy and state, where he 
says, production precedes 

546
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,300
predation. 
So that's, that's why we can 

547
00:28:46,300 --> 00:28:49,500
called the state, the parasite, 
rather than we only have the 

548
00:28:49,500 --> 00:28:52,400
good things in life and all 
rights are actually positive 

549
00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:54,800
rights because without the 
state, nothing would exist. 

550
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,800
There has to be something to 
steal and because the, that's 

551
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:00,500
the Tate's distinguishing 
feature. 

552
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,300
We know that you know, it's not 
the market that relies on the 

553
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:05,400
state. 
It's the state. 

554
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,400
That is the parasail. 
Yes. 

555
00:29:08,300 --> 00:29:11,900
Jarvan said that he is not just 
a Luddite. 

556
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,900
He is a protectionist. 
Luddite in reference to people 

557
00:29:16,100 --> 00:29:21,000
very hesitant to upcoming 
incoming Technologies, usually 

558
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:25,500
refers to people who want to 
Outlaw Innovation by force being

559
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:30,400
the people who were smashing 
fell factories and Sceneries to 

560
00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,600
stop an increase in 
technological production 

561
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:37,000
protectionist generally. 
Meaning the state has a monopoly

562
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000
right to forcefully. 
Stop people from making trades 

563
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:44,600
with people outside of the 
states geographical area either 

564
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:48,400
completely through embargoes 
like Cuba or through high 

565
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:52,400
tariffs on this on this claim 
alone. 

566
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,600
I'm not just a Luddite. 
I'm a protectionist. 

567
00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,500
What are your thoughts? 
Well, I mean, you know, we're 

568
00:29:59,500 --> 00:30:03,100
trying to look for started. 
It's very easy. 

569
00:30:03,100 --> 00:30:04,900
For anyone who doesn't know your
band. 

570
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,500
You used to be a Libertarian and
he thinks mises is brilliant. 

571
00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,500
And he is very familiar with the
Austrian School. 

572
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,200
So when he says, I'm not just a 
lot of blood, I'm a 

573
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,900
protectionist and he still 
believes that mises brilliant. 

574
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,300
It really is this like 
unbridgeable. 

575
00:30:22,300 --> 00:30:25,600
Impasse that I don't understand 
how he can even Connect the Dots

576
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,000
here to be quite honest with 
you. 

577
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,600
It's just like, yeah, I'm just 
baffled to be completely honest.

578
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,800
It's one of those words. 
Like I can't Square the circle. 

579
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:40,800
So I just tried to summarize his
arguments just because this was 

580
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:44,800
sort of a long interaction he 
had on a podcast. 

581
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,900
He says Libertarians see the 
government as bad in practice 

582
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,300
and therefore erroneously 
assumed. 

583
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:53,900
We shouldn't have a government 
at all libertarian. 

584
00:30:53,900 --> 00:30:56,000
See protectionism. 
As it is today being a way to 

585
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,000
protect the inefficient, but it 
can be used. 

586
00:30:59,100 --> 00:31:01,100
For good. 
We're back to the state being a 

587
00:31:01,100 --> 00:31:05,900
neutral tool. 
Yeah, so that that is one 

588
00:31:05,900 --> 00:31:10,500
criticism in and in, and of 
itself that protectionism can, 

589
00:31:10,700 --> 00:31:13,300
but be used for good. 
My the thing that stood out to 

590
00:31:13,300 --> 00:31:19,000
me was notice the striving for 
the ideal while criticizing 

591
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,700
Libertarians for idealism. 
So he didn't say there is 

592
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:24,400
protection as mm. 
We have it exists or we don't 

593
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,200
have it. 
We don't have a lot of height as

594
00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:27,800
mm. 
So, you know, but what are we 

595
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:28,500
going to do? 
Instead? 

596
00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:31,200
We have Klaus. 
Op so there's nothing really he 

597
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,800
can he gets to dream. 
He says this is my ideal. 

598
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:38,300
I believe in a lot ideas. 
Mm and protectionism and 

599
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,200
whatever. 
Why do we get all the criticism 

600
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,600
for idealism? 
It's a hell of a lot harder to 

601
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:48,400
enforce the exact kind of 
protectionists. 

602
00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:50,700
You want. 
Considering there so many 

603
00:31:50,700 --> 00:31:55,400
products and such a variety. 
I think it's less than ideal and

604
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:59,700
unrealistic to have Universal 
free trade, you Have trade 

605
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:01,400
between countries. 
The way we have free trade 

606
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,200
between the states in America 
and the counties, and the 

607
00:32:04,208 --> 00:32:09,800
neighborhoods, and everything 
else / protectionist. 

608
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:12,700
Yeah. 
So just on that, what would you 

609
00:32:12,700 --> 00:32:17,100
say to the our vanian mindset of
protectionism, by the Monarch 

610
00:32:17,300 --> 00:32:21,600
for the greater good, using the 
low time, preference to maximize

611
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,500
the utility of his domain. 
Yeah. 

612
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:29,000
Well, I would just say it's 
like, you know, if you restrict 

613
00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:31,100
I'm trading. 
If you search people from buying

614
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,500
outside of it, like one 
geographic area. 

615
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:36,400
That's obviously going to hurt 
consumers and it's going to hurt

616
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,300
the production or that the 
wealth the overall wealth of the

617
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:42,000
society, right? 
You're putting you're just 

618
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,000
adding costs ultimately, because
when companies have that 

619
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,800
protection, they know that they 
don't have to fit fear like 

620
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,200
competition from outside Market 
actors, right. 

621
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:53,700
So that they're able to raise 
prices more than they would be 

622
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:56,300
able to naturally. 
And this is ultimately going to 

623
00:32:56,300 --> 00:32:58,500
make it. 
So you're actually wasting 

624
00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:01,800
Capital and neuter, you're 
wasting resources. 

625
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,200
These people are being forced to
pay more than they would be 

626
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,000
normal and natural free market 
because of this constraint. 

627
00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,500
So you're actually wasting 
things, right? 

628
00:33:09,500 --> 00:33:13,100
It's like imagine if some if 
some guy from some other country

629
00:33:13,100 --> 00:33:16,900
drop a bunch of like cars off in
your driveway for free. 

630
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:20,900
Would you think that? 
Oh, no, I'm poor now, right? 

631
00:33:21,100 --> 00:33:25,600
So it's in your increasing the 
cost it with in this geographic 

632
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,000
area in your little monarchy. 
You're increasing the actual 

633
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:34,800
East that is being like 
generated through these 

634
00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:37,700
artificially higher prices. 
Now, it's true that the protest,

635
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,300
the protected class, the 
protected Industries. 

636
00:33:40,300 --> 00:33:42,700
They loved it, right. 
They benefit of course, but 

637
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:45,300
overall, it's not making your 
Society any wealthier. 

638
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:49,300
It's just it's just channeling 
the wealth into that those 

639
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:51,400
protected Industries. 
It's not actually you. 

640
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:56,900
So you're just changing like how
much goes where as opposed to as

641
00:33:56,900 --> 00:33:58,900
opposed to the overall wealth of
the society. 

642
00:33:59,100 --> 00:34:02,200
Yeah. 
Yeah, and again, it's not very 

643
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,100
clear. 
Why? 

644
00:34:03,100 --> 00:34:06,700
It would be countries that 
should have protectionism. 

645
00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:10,300
Surely States should have it in 
County, should have it and Pete 

646
00:34:10,300 --> 00:34:16,300
and families should have it. 
Also that this is very it's a 

647
00:34:16,308 --> 00:34:20,199
lot of power for something that 
is so complex as opposed to like

648
00:34:20,199 --> 00:34:24,199
look even the explicit principle
of it's wrong to say, even 

649
00:34:24,199 --> 00:34:28,300
people who don't, you know, 
consider themselves as total 

650
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:31,000
volunteers, they'll Say assault 
is bad. 

651
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:35,000
Well, there is a show called who
violated the nap. 

652
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,800
I don't know if you know, this 
guy's name is Chris, and he'll 

653
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:41,400
play a video. 
And the guests will say this 

654
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,500
person or that person violated 
the nap and it's sometimes 

655
00:34:45,500 --> 00:34:48,300
difficult when the entire thing 
is on camera. 

656
00:34:48,500 --> 00:34:51,900
It's really hard to pinpoint, 
who is at fault here. 

657
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:56,199
So if that is difficult enough, 
imagine how difficult it would 

658
00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:57,800
be in. 
What incentive would these 

659
00:34:57,800 --> 00:35:01,400
protectionist have to spend? 
I'm focusing on which Industries

660
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,700
should be protected at, what 
expense? 

661
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:06,000
What are we giving up for their 
protection? 

662
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,500
How much is The Tariff going to 
be? 

663
00:35:07,500 --> 00:35:09,900
Where is this money going to go?
Just going to empower the 

664
00:35:09,900 --> 00:35:13,500
government that is so moral and 
not spending money on totally 

665
00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:16,500
evil nonsense. 
In what amount how long it 

666
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:16,800
should? 
It? 

667
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,400
Just be temporary. 
How much longer are we going to 

668
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,500
have this trade embargo with 
Cuba that Marco Rubio is so 

669
00:35:24,500 --> 00:35:27,100
passionate about that. 
That's really the only thing 

670
00:35:27,100 --> 00:35:31,400
that really gets him passionate 
is Going to embargo Cuba for the

671
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:34,900
for another 50 years, of course,
the amount of sanctions put on 

672
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,200
Russia for doing 1/50 of what 
the US does. 

673
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,700
The protectionist has no 
incentive to really make sure 

674
00:35:44,100 --> 00:35:48,600
that this can come out because 
that he's providing a good 

675
00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:52,700
service because it would take so
long for everyone to realize the

676
00:35:52,700 --> 00:35:55,700
negative effects of the 
protectionism. 

677
00:35:55,700 --> 00:35:57,900
And it would be impossible to 
know what you could have had 

678
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,200
otherwise. 
So because The complexity 

679
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:04,000
because no one has an incentive 
to really lock in to, you know, 

680
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,500
agricultural subsidies and other
protected Industries. 

681
00:36:07,900 --> 00:36:10,300
They're just going to run amok 
and the reality is. 

682
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:12,100
Yes. 
It's a moral to stop people from

683
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:15,000
Trading. 
But even if we Grant, even if we

684
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,900
ignore the morality of it, 
that's going to be pretty 

685
00:36:17,900 --> 00:36:20,200
complex when it comes to being a
Luddite. 

686
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,000
Yeah. 
What do you outlaw? 

687
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,100
And when and I don't mean to be,
I don't mean to do you. 

688
00:36:25,100 --> 00:36:28,800
Like, if we're Ultra specific 
and touching someone's shoulder 

689
00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:31,500
is a nap. 
Violation Tech, I mean, even in 

690
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:35,500
general, we can, at least, say 
kicking someone a hundred times,

691
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:40,700
is a nap violation and saying 
hello to them is not but, oh my 

692
00:36:40,700 --> 00:36:42,600
god, did I misspelled bicycle 
Jesus? 

693
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:48,200
So so when you look at something
like technologies that should be

694
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:52,900
outlawed when the bicycle came 
around, should would that have 

695
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,600
fallen under the hurting the 
horse and buggy industry, or how

696
00:36:56,600 --> 00:37:00,300
about the automobile, or the 
phone, the show or The cell 

697
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:04,100
phone the, what the shovel? 
Oh, yeah. 

698
00:37:04,100 --> 00:37:06,700
So what Mill? 
Imagine mention how many a jobs 

699
00:37:06,700 --> 00:37:10,500
were lost by the shovel? 
The spoon manufacturers must 

700
00:37:10,500 --> 00:37:14,600
have been up in arms. 
What about what about computers 

701
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,000
these things? 
That at the time can seem so 

702
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,500
detrimental. 
We now see as like a total 

703
00:37:21,500 --> 00:37:28,100
necessity that totally ruined. 
Are there any scribes like what 

704
00:37:28,100 --> 00:37:29,600
percentage of people are? 
Gibbs. 

705
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:32,500
I think I people have assistants
that take notes and stuff. 

706
00:37:32,500 --> 00:37:35,900
So it still exists but like all 
the entire scribe, industry 

707
00:37:35,900 --> 00:37:40,000
could go out of business because
people have the unfettered free 

708
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:44,600
market right to purchase their 
own typing. 

709
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:49,000
So, I call this the 
protectionist US a slippery 

710
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,800
slope. 
Any thoughts on these. 

711
00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:54,600
Yeah, you know, I actually going
back to what we were talking 

712
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,400
about earlier. 
How, you know, you've been 

713
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,100
criticized Libertarians is 
having childish beliefs and you 

714
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:00,800
know it Some sense. 
This is correct because 

715
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,600
Libertarians do have to ask 
people Elementary questions a 

716
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:08,100
lot and it's for reasons just 
like this because, you know, 

717
00:38:08,100 --> 00:38:08,900
going back to what you're 
saying. 

718
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:13,300
How do you know, like how do you
know which industry to an 

719
00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:16,900
Institute protectionist policies
for in which not to it? 

720
00:38:16,900 --> 00:38:18,300
What is your standard? 
Right? 

721
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:20,500
How do you know? 
How do you like interest 

722
00:38:20,500 --> 00:38:22,300
objectively compare? 
Like what? 

723
00:38:22,300 --> 00:38:24,600
Even if we do like a utilitarian
calculation? 

724
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,800
How do you know specifically 
that instituting this 

725
00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:29,400
protectionist policy is going 
to? 

726
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,900
To Grant you better results than
instituting on this protection. 

727
00:38:31,900 --> 00:38:33,900
Is this protections policy over 
here? 

728
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:36,500
Right? 
So I guess maybe just a blanket 

729
00:38:36,500 --> 00:38:39,000
protection as policy, but then 
you could even go further. 

730
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:42,100
Why is it only countries? 
Why don't you like do it in 

731
00:38:42,100 --> 00:38:43,900
certain smaller and smaller 
geographies? 

732
00:38:43,900 --> 00:38:46,900
Why don't you do it in like 
towns cities municipalities, 

733
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:49,900
right? 
So if that's like the thought 

734
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:52,800
process, then you should be able
that should apply all the way 

735
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:56,200
down until you eventually reach 
protectionist policies in the 

736
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:59,200
form of one single Monopoly. 
One single producer for each. 

737
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,500
Like good or service within your
geography also be. 

738
00:39:03,500 --> 00:39:08,400
Yeah, going back down to what 
you were saying before you like 

739
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,500
went. 
If you're Luddite when exactly. 

740
00:39:10,500 --> 00:39:12,700
Do you like? 
What is your Line in the Sand? 

741
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:14,900
What it, what constitutes 
technology? 

742
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,600
Because here's the thing, right,
as human beings. 

743
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:23,300
We are defined by our abilities 
to acquire tools and use tools, 

744
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:24,900
right? 
This is like the found one of 

745
00:39:24,900 --> 00:39:28,400
the foundational definitions of 
what makes humans unique from 

746
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,500
other animals. 
Some Other animals use tools but

747
00:39:30,500 --> 00:39:34,500
not to the extent human scam. 
So when you think about that, 

748
00:39:34,500 --> 00:39:37,700
it's like every tool, every 
invention is a technology. 

749
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:38,700
It's a piece of Kit. 
Right? 

750
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:42,500
A shovel is a piece of capital. 
If it reduces the amount of 

751
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:45,900
Labor necessary to acquire that 
end, right? 

752
00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,700
So when you're doing that, you 
have to understand that this is,

753
00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:51,500
in some sense. 
If you want to be, go through 

754
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:52,800
the protectionist mindset as 
well. 

755
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,500
We don't want to lose our jobs 
to this other competitor, this 

756
00:39:55,500 --> 00:39:58,100
other piece of technology or 
into like invention. 

757
00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:02,800
If we just get rid of all 
technology and we go back to 

758
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,000
living in like caves, right? 
Everyone is going to have a job.

759
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:09,200
Everyone possible. 
Is he going to have a job and 

760
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,600
they will never be able to 
retire either because they will 

761
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,900
never be able to generate get 
they'll never be able to build 

762
00:40:13,900 --> 00:40:15,400
Capital. 
They would never be able to 

763
00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:18,100
generate anything that could 
allow them to retire in the 

764
00:40:18,100 --> 00:40:19,200
first place. 
Right? 

765
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,900
So, I know that I'm sure your 
oven would not agree. 

766
00:40:22,900 --> 00:40:25,900
Like with that conclusion. 
That's the conclusion ice, The 

767
00:40:25,900 --> 00:40:28,400
Logical, conclusion of 
protectionism and being a 

768
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,600
Luddite. 
Ali. 

769
00:40:29,700 --> 00:40:32,800
It's like visit ultimately it is
you're saying everything that 

770
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,200
has been invented. 
It has in some sense caused 

771
00:40:36,900 --> 00:40:41,000
other jobs to not be as valuable
or to be completely destroyed by

772
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,600
these inventions and then those 
people can use their labor in 

773
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:50,700
more more needed spaces. 
The answer to the question of. 

774
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:53,000
Well, how do you decide or who 
decides? 

775
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:58,300
It's such an a difficult issue 
that in any system you are 

776
00:40:58,300 --> 00:41:00,600
relying on people to grasp 
Concepts. 

777
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:04,100
So it was one piece of sand, a 
hill of sand. 

778
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:05,900
No. 
Well, do we have to get to a 

779
00:41:05,908 --> 00:41:08,400
trillion pieces? 
Couldn't half a trillion also 

780
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,100
count. 
Well, yes, so you sort of have 

781
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:17,000
not exactly a line in the sand 
like a purse ice this Has good. 

782
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,100
This is aggression. 
This is not aggression hitting 

783
00:41:20,100 --> 00:41:22,300
someone with this amount of 
power moves. 

784
00:41:22,300 --> 00:41:24,500
It from a pat on the back to 
assault. 

785
00:41:24,700 --> 00:41:28,300
You don't have that. 
But instead what the libertarian

786
00:41:28,300 --> 00:41:32,900
correct response would be. 
As this is a concept that is 

787
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:34,900
inherently bad. 
The best way to achieve a 

788
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:38,100
society in which there is the 
least amount of aggression is to

789
00:41:38,100 --> 00:41:41,800
have voluntarily funded 
competing Court agencies that 

790
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,100
could give us the answer to what
counts as aggression and what 

791
00:41:45,100 --> 00:41:46,800
does not. 
Yes, just like if Trying to 

792
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,600
achieve Justice, we want to 
achieve Justice. 

793
00:41:49,900 --> 00:41:53,400
Well, that's extremely difficult
giving the state a monopoly is 

794
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,600
probably the last thing you 
would want to do. 

795
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,000
My generals is. 
So, of course, we've discussed 

796
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:00,200
the freedom of exchange. 
What? 

797
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,600
No, Zack called capitalist acts 
between consenting adults. 

798
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:07,900
He's wrong there, but just on a 
utilitarian basis, this gives 

799
00:42:07,900 --> 00:42:10,700
too much discretion to people 
who have no incentive to provide

800
00:42:10,700 --> 00:42:14,800
a good product, or to provide a 
good service because they can 

801
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,900
always say, look at this. 
Industry. 

802
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:18,800
I saved. 
It's going to be impossible. 

803
00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,200
I mean, besides the psychics who
were like, whoa. 

804
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,900
This could have been created. 
There's no way to account for 

805
00:42:24,900 --> 00:42:27,100
that. 
You're unable to account for the

806
00:42:27,100 --> 00:42:29,500
variety and complexity. 
How many Goods in what? 

807
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:32,400
Amount at what time for? 
What people should there ever be

808
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,800
acceptance? 
It's hard enough to do that with

809
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,400
assault. 
So, don't tell me you're doing 

810
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,900
it with billions of people and 
Friends of billions of products.

811
00:42:40,300 --> 00:42:43,200
Yeah, and there's there's too 
much room for a small error. 

812
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:46,300
Creating a big cost it is a 
right. 

813
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,700
It is literally like saying so 
so he doesn't get to say I'm 

814
00:42:50,700 --> 00:42:53,800
believing protectionism because 
I believe in protecting people. 

815
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:57,200
It is the equivalent of saying, 
I think marriages and 

816
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:00,000
friendships should be good. 
We don't want bad ones, what we 

817
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:04,000
want, are good ones. 
So therefore, the state Monarch 

818
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,200
should Outlaw bad, marriages and
bad friendships. 

819
00:43:06,700 --> 00:43:10,400
Now, I guess I would want a 
world in which those didn't 

820
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,600
exist. 
But in order to achieve that 

821
00:43:12,600 --> 00:43:16,100
end, I'd have to give the state 
pretty much unlimited power to 

822
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,900
You know, have a camera and 
microphone and every house that 

823
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:23,000
they're observing as if the NSA 
isn't already and giving them 

824
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:27,000
the ability to determine what 
counts and what doesn't we also 

825
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,800
shouldn't have bad art. 
Why of bad art? 

826
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,600
When you could have good, we 
shouldn't have bad jobs. 

827
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:33,500
We should have good ones. 
So why not let the state just 

828
00:43:33,500 --> 00:43:36,200
outlaw them and we shouldn't 
have bad products and bad 

829
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,600
services and bad parenting and 
government should pursue the 

830
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,400
greater good. 
There's just too much discretion

831
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,300
for too few people that don't 
have the information. 

832
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:51,300
Not to mention who does it 
attract the Psychopaths friends 

833
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:53,400
of Jeffrey Epstein from all 
over. 

834
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,600
So my general claim is that it's
too vague gives too much leeway 

835
00:43:56,700 --> 00:44:00,200
to tyrants and will lead to 
overall disutility final 

836
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,300
thoughts on a lot ideas and then
protectionism. 

837
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,100
No, I think you summarized it 
beautifully. 

838
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:07,600
And you know what you said 
before about the about monarchy 

839
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,000
and governments in general, is 
that as opposed to like a bit 

840
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:13,400
firm on a market. 
Generally speaking is that when 

841
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:16,200
a centralized structure makes a 
bad decision? 

842
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,800
It reverberates all the way 
through that centralized 

843
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,500
structure. 
So if you're in a society puts 

844
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:24,700
heavily, centralized, your and 
you and this Central planner 

845
00:44:24,700 --> 00:44:26,800
makes a mistake. 
It's going to be felt by every 

846
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,900
person. 
Right? 

847
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:31,000
So our client, the libertarian 
claim is not that decentralized.

848
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,200
People and individuals are 
always going to make good 

849
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,000
rational actions. 
It's the it's the claim that 

850
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:38,800
when they do make bad actions or
bad decisions or costly 

851
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:42,000
decisions there. 
It's not going to occur in 

852
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,300
mostly. 
In general terms. 

853
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:46,200
It's not going to extend to 
other decentralised actors. 

854
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,000
Sometimes it does but generally 
it doesn't and that's why it's 

855
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,200
Superior centralization, which 
spreads the cost of bad 

856
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,800
decisions, all the way all the 
way down through everyone. 

857
00:44:55,700 --> 00:44:57,800
Exactly. 
And so even if you see the 

858
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,000
Monarch doing something 
ridiculous because he's either 

859
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:04,800
either evil or ignorant or lazy.
You don't get to use your own 

860
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,600
low time, preference for your 
own future. 

861
00:45:07,700 --> 00:45:11,500
It's always his low time 
preference at the expense of 

862
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:15,900
everyone else has on Tucker 
Carlson today, which by the way 

863
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:18,600
I get that were spending this 
time. 

864
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:20,900
Criticizing him. 
We do it because he's like one 

865
00:45:20,900 --> 00:45:24,400
of the most brilliant people. 
Probably a very intelligent. 

866
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:27,700
Yeah, so 360. 
So that's why it's going to be 

867
00:45:27,700 --> 00:45:28,900
worth going through all this 
stuff. 

868
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:30,700
His appearance on Tucker Carlson
today. 

869
00:45:30,700 --> 00:45:32,100
I think I've watched three 
times. 

870
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,100
So it this I recommend more than
anything else. 

871
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,900
Actually my own interview with 
him was really good. 

872
00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:43,400
The Tucker Carlson is second. 
He says, here is the last 

873
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,200
Monarch in America, Franklin 
Roosevelt. 

874
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:49,100
So we says we have the same 
title, but different power 

875
00:45:49,100 --> 00:45:50,600
level. 
Would you mind reading this 

876
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:51,400
Yavin? 
Quote? 

877
00:45:52,100 --> 00:45:53,100
Oh, yeah. 
Sure. 

878
00:45:54,300 --> 00:45:57,500
So he goes on to say could we 
make the White House ten times 

879
00:45:57,500 --> 00:46:00,400
as powerful over the Executive 
Branch very easily. 

880
00:46:00,500 --> 00:46:03,500
Could we imagine at that point? 
We're reaching the powers of say

881
00:46:03,500 --> 00:46:05,700
LBJ. 
Could we make the White House 

882
00:46:05,700 --> 00:46:10,200
100 times as powerful over the 
Executive Branch at this point. 

883
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:13,500
We're up to the powers of f.d.r.
So people think when they vote 

884
00:46:13,500 --> 00:46:15,700
for Donald Trump, they're voting
for the same job. 

885
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:17,700
That FDR. 
I had their actually voting for 

886
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:21,100
like .01 percent of that job, 
which is a really serious. 

887
00:46:21,100 --> 00:46:23,900
That is a really serious 
misinterpretation of reality. 

888
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:28,100
And I think that that's such a 
great contribution 

889
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,300
intellectually because we forget
that, yeah, that is the same 

890
00:46:32,300 --> 00:46:36,400
title that Franklin, Roosevelt 
had, but Trump and Biden and 

891
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:40,600
Roosevelt are not too tall or 
have an equal amount of 

892
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:43,700
influence. 
I'm, I would be shocked if Biden

893
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:46,200
even writes his own speeches, 
even when he calls on people. 

894
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,000
He said on two occasions, hold 
on here. 

895
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,600
I got a list of who to call on 
it. 

896
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,400
Every single thing. 
That guy does is plenty, doesn't

897
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:58,300
run his own Twitter account. 
So so I mean we go from like a 

898
00:46:58,500 --> 00:47:02,400
very powerful executive to Biden
and it's not the same. 

899
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,300
So he says this is important 
because people are getting gas 

900
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:07,500
lick. 
Its, you know, the equivalent of

901
00:47:07,500 --> 00:47:13,200
saying, Ace clean my house, and 
then you will determine the 

902
00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:16,900
events in Spain. 
It's like so obvious Lee, I'm 

903
00:47:16,900 --> 00:47:20,800
using you to get what I want out
of you and lying to you about a 

904
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,200
positive effect, so I was glad 
that he brought this up, the 

905
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:28,700
main thing, is he Advocates? 
Monarchy the closest thing we've

906
00:47:28,700 --> 00:47:32,200
had recently to a monarch, is 
Franklin Roosevelt. 

907
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:37,700
A thoughts on how well, the last
Monarch was for America. 

908
00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,100
Yeah. 
It wasn't too great shocking, 

909
00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:43,800
but I guess, you know, we always
have to do these comparative 

910
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:47,500
advantages, but even when we 
compare, You know, on generally 

911
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:51,000
on even more looking through 
libertarian terms, FDR is 

912
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,900
usually considered one of the 
worst Presidents. 

913
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,900
I mean it when you look at like 
what he did, I mean, you know 

914
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,200
World War two things like that 
and I know that's a that's a Hot

915
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:00,600
Topic. 
These a lot of people think 

916
00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:02,200
well, that was the Justified 
War. 

917
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,800
I don't want it. 
I'm not going to drag us down 

918
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,100
and get into that right now, but
then you have to think about 

919
00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:11,400
like everything. 
The FDR did the New Deal set the

920
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,100
groundwork for fascism in 
America, right? 

921
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:16,200
That's what the New Deal did 
all. 

922
00:48:16,300 --> 00:48:19,100
These things of like corporate 
interests being able to 

923
00:48:19,100 --> 00:48:23,900
colluding with the state comes 
from the New Deal directly like 

924
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,200
that is the main. 
So, so when people talk about, 

925
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:31,200
you know, how that fascism is in
America, you can thank FDR for 

926
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:35,400
it because he really, really 
jump, started it even more who 

927
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:38,400
so that I would even say Wilson 
which is, which in my opinion 

928
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:40,800
was probably the worst president
of the United States, but, but 

929
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,300
yeah, FDR is was not great, not 
great whatsoever. 

930
00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:50,200
Yeah, so I should have made my 
list. 

931
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:53,300
Clear. 
So when it comes to monetary 

932
00:48:53,300 --> 00:48:58,700
policy, the gold confiscation. 
Yes Act was just so just pure 

933
00:48:58,700 --> 00:49:01,400
evil. 
I mean, but by every metric, the

934
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:06,200
state monopolizing, something 
this valuable puts a lot of 

935
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:10,000
power in the hands of the few 
and did it end the Depression 

936
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,100
like you thought it would? 
Well, he, of course, ran on 

937
00:49:13,100 --> 00:49:18,200
Herbert Hoover bringing us into 
To socialism, and we need to do.

938
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:23,100
You know what it's funny yarr 
van constantly plugs the 

939
00:49:23,100 --> 00:49:28,300
Machiavelli ins by James Barnum 
and the opening paragraph in the

940
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:31,300
Machiavelli. 
Ins is here's the Democratic 

941
00:49:31,500 --> 00:49:35,100
platform National platform in 
1932. 

942
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:39,000
And it's a bunch of ways of why 
we need to shrink government. 

943
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,300
It's just a list of that. 
That's the Machiavelli ins by 

944
00:49:41,300 --> 00:49:43,200
James Barnum. 
What was it, like 1940 or 

945
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,500
something? 
I want to thank you. 

946
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:51,700
So you can see that the last 
Monarch was a total liar and 

947
00:49:51,700 --> 00:49:53,600
well, hey, you you want to make 
an omelet? 

948
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:58,700
You gotta crack a few eggs, the 
depression lasted far longer 

949
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:04,800
than previous downfalls such as 
the Panic of or recession of 

950
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,600
1919 or I'm sorry 1920 under 
Warren G. 

951
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,200
Harding, who was actually a 
do-nothing president. 

952
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:14,400
That's why we don't hear about 
him because he was, he actually,

953
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:18,400
Did he was much closer to do 
nothing than Hoover who tripled 

954
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,700
spending increased taxes? 
Used protectionism. 

955
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:26,600
So just more on FDR Japanese 
German German and Italian 

956
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:28,000
internment. 
Yeah. 

957
00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:31,700
So like the our biggest 
criticism of Australia, he of 

958
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:34,500
course did that on a large 
scale? 

959
00:50:34,500 --> 00:50:38,100
Hundreds of thousands of people 
unilaterally engaged in 

960
00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:41,200
large-scale slavery, under the 
guise of conscription the worst 

961
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:45,700
form of probably occupation. 
Had that you could be. 

962
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:50,200
Now I can imagine getting my 
fingers arms legs blown off 

963
00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:53,800
getting an eye shot out and 
thinking God about. 

964
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:57,000
As bad as forced cotton-picking 
was, I think it might have been 

965
00:50:57,300 --> 00:50:58,600
better as far as the second 
world war. 

966
00:50:58,600 --> 00:51:02,700
Of course, the war declared by 
Britain on Germany for Polish 

967
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:05,500
Independence, ended with giving 
Poland to Stalin after 60 

968
00:51:05,500 --> 00:51:09,000
million deaths, giving us 
communism and China. 

969
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:12,900
The spread of Communism in Korea
and the Vietnam War, not 

970
00:51:12,900 --> 00:51:15,900
necessarily good things. 
The mass murder in Tokyo 

971
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:18,100
operation. 
Meetinghouse 100,000 people in 

972
00:51:18,100 --> 00:51:22,500
one night continues, the myth 
that we need the state and World

973
00:51:22,500 --> 00:51:27,200
War Two was this, you know what,
inherently the good War just 

974
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:33,300
like just like anything else. 
So his his most recent example 

975
00:51:33,500 --> 00:51:37,100
of a monarch is the second worst
president. 

976
00:51:37,100 --> 00:51:41,500
I think that America has ever 
had and he's given Wilson a run 

977
00:51:41,500 --> 00:51:44,000
for his money. 
Final thoughts on FDR being the 

978
00:51:44,000 --> 00:51:46,300
last month. 
And Monarch being the best form 

979
00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:50,200
of government, right? 
I'm sure like if you're going 

980
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,000
was listening to us, he would 
consider this like cherry 

981
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,000
picking, you know, but I think 
it's very that. 

982
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,900
I don't think it's cherry 
picking. 

983
00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:58,000
If you like. 
This is his example, it's very 

984
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:00,800
appropriate to like, okay, look 
at what happened. 

985
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,000
Now, this doesn't necessarily 
imply that every Monarch that 

986
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,400
niang would support would be 
like FDR, but the fact that he 

987
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:11,000
would use FDR kind of as the 
example here is questionable 

988
00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:15,300
about the the claims of monarchy
in Neural, right? 

989
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:18,500
Like if you have a man who 
essentially committed, so much 

990
00:52:18,500 --> 00:52:22,600
mass murder theft on a global 
scale instituted like a fat 

991
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,500
fascist policies in the US. 
And, you know, of course slavery

992
00:52:25,500 --> 00:52:27,200
through conscription. 
It's like, yeah. 

993
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,500
This isn't looking too great 
for, for monarchy. 

994
00:52:30,500 --> 00:52:33,500
In my opinion, if this is his 
close to his ideal. 

995
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:39,400
He then gets into his concept of
the Cathedral on Tucker Carlson.

996
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,500
Would you mind? 
My voice is getting killed on 

997
00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:43,300
Orchard? 
You mind going sure. 

998
00:52:43,300 --> 00:52:48,200
He says he quotes the Deep State
or the swamp or the cathedral or

999
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:49,200
whatever. 
You want to call it. 

1000
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,700
This world of permanent 
influential people inside and 

1001
00:52:52,700 --> 00:52:56,100
outside of government and it's 
very important that many of 

1002
00:52:56,100 --> 00:52:58,700
them, many of these power 
centers are outside government 

1003
00:52:58,700 --> 00:53:01,400
proper. 
I've noticed that and you might 

1004
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:05,100
have noticed that there beyond 
the Troll of the population. 

1005
00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:06,600
Yeah. 
Yeah that makes them completely 

1006
00:53:06,600 --> 00:53:10,400
unaccountable Sovereign beyond 
the reach of any kind of ability

1007
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,400
whatsoever. 
So he's essentially saying that,

1008
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:15,800
you know, these power structures
exist and essentially prop up 

1009
00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:19,800
the state outside of it even. 
And it's really important 

1010
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:24,600
because he brings the 
intellectual, you know, the 

1011
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:28,800
intellectual grasp behind a 
concept that was like, five 

1012
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,500
years ago. 
You're a crazy conspiracy 

1013
00:53:30,500 --> 00:53:34,100
theorist if you believe in the 
Deep State, as if there aren't 

1014
00:53:34,100 --> 00:53:37,800
people like what percentage of 
government employees changed 

1015
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:43,200
from Trump to Biden or Obama to.
I mean, he has a funny joke 

1016
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,100
about how at the state 
department. 

1017
00:53:45,100 --> 00:53:49,100
It's really inconvenient. 
When you know, One president, 

1018
00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:51,700
when the parties and the 
president's change. 

1019
00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:53,300
You have to get a whole new 
picture. 

1020
00:53:53,400 --> 00:53:55,300
Yeah, for reframe it. 
You have to put it up. 

1021
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,700
What if you had just dusted the 
picture of the last president. 

1022
00:53:59,200 --> 00:54:00,900
Other than that, everything 
stays the same. 

1023
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:05,200
So it is a great contribution 
that he brings this people 

1024
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:06,600
inside and outside of 
government. 

1025
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,000
That's something that I'm very 
glad. 

1026
00:54:09,100 --> 00:54:11,900
Of course, Milton Friedman and 
Murray rothbard always said that

1027
00:54:11,900 --> 00:54:15,200
it's the intellectuals and big 
business that are wholly off the

1028
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,900
state in which contrary to what 
Ian Rand said. 

1029
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,500
Big business. 
The America's most persecuted, 

1030
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:25,600
minority, rothbard, and Antony 
Sutton, who worked at the Hoover

1031
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,800
Institute were constantly 
saying, look at how big business

1032
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,300
is pushing for big regulation. 
G Edward Griffin. 

1033
00:54:32,500 --> 00:54:37,000
The voluntarist says, look at 
what these private businesses 

1034
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,800
did in j.p. 
Morgan using the state and the 

1035
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,500
Federal Reserve. 
So but before getting onto 

1036
00:54:42,500 --> 00:54:46,900
beyond the control, you have the
media Harvard, all these, all 

1037
00:54:46,900 --> 00:54:50,000
these organizations. 
Thoughts on the cathedral and 

1038
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:52,500
the Deep State. 
Well, I think this is probably 

1039
00:54:52,500 --> 00:54:56,100
some of your ribs best work. 
Got like I'm very grateful for 

1040
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,400
this work because I think it is 
very true. 

1041
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,000
Right. 
So, the idea of these power 

1042
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,900
structures, that complement, the
state that are there that are 

1043
00:55:05,900 --> 00:55:07,800
supportive of the state. 
Even in, of course, you have the

1044
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,000
Deep State that's inside the 
state that doesn't change. 

1045
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:12,900
But you also have power 
structures outside the state 

1046
00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:16,800
that complemented and are there 
to prop it up in some sense like

1047
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:21,100
a like a Foundation of a house 
that makes sense to me and you 

1048
00:55:21,107 --> 00:55:22,600
know, talking about big 
business. 

1049
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:26,100
There's obviously the Symbiote 
the symbiotic relationship 

1050
00:55:26,100 --> 00:55:28,700
between businesses and 
government is big businesses. 

1051
00:55:28,700 --> 00:55:31,100
Want to grow and they want the 
government to crush your 

1052
00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:33,300
competition. 
And these big businesses are 

1053
00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:36,000
only in some sense big because 
the state crushes, their 

1054
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:39,100
competition, allowing them to 
absorb market, share, and things

1055
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:41,400
like that, when they normally 
wouldn't be able to. 

1056
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:44,600
And obviously, you know, the 
academic class in the media, 

1057
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:49,700
they are there to assist 
Actually support the regime, not

1058
00:55:49,700 --> 00:55:51,300
all, you know, there's some 
exceptions here and there, you 

1059
00:55:51,308 --> 00:55:53,500
know, especially with 
alternative media nowadays, but 

1060
00:55:53,500 --> 00:55:56,000
it historically, this is 
obviously been to write this 

1061
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,600
conservative of delusion about, 
you know me, the media being 

1062
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,600
there for years, like the Free 
Press to hold the state 

1063
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:04,600
accountable is insane. 
It's like, you know, trusting 

1064
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,700
the constant, the state to 
enforce the Constitution's. 

1065
00:56:06,700 --> 00:56:09,500
Like, no, that's the incentive. 
Just don't align their they have

1066
00:56:09,500 --> 00:56:13,000
no incentive to actually, you 
know, expose The Truth Exposed 

1067
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:17,400
the truth of the people who give
them power in some sense because

1068
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:19,500
it's very much. 
Symbiotic relationship. 

1069
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:23,700
And in the same way, you get 
pretty much most. 

1070
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:26,700
Rabbis on the same page about 
everything, you get them, 

1071
00:56:26,700 --> 00:56:31,100
synoptic is by getting them 
Reliant, either financially, or 

1072
00:56:31,100 --> 00:56:33,500
emotionally on one sort of 
Center. 

1073
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:38,200
So it's not like there's one 
Imam, who controls all the 

1074
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,200
mosque's correct from 
Scottsdale, Arizona, to Saudi 

1075
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:45,100
Arabia to Australia, which you 
have is this lie, when in our 

1076
00:56:45,100 --> 00:56:49,100
case it's statism or even 
Keynesian economics, I guess, 

1077
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:52,000
even if you didn't have a 
States, This terrible lie of 

1078
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:56,400
spending is production and not 
the other way around so that you

1079
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:01,700
could still have this stuff but 
this concept of throne and altar

1080
00:57:01,700 --> 00:57:04,600
as Patrick Newman says, you have
the king who would want to 

1081
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,200
employ the priest to tell 
people, you know, the reason you

1082
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:12,400
have the an obligation to obey 
this guy, the king is because it

1083
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,300
was divined by God. 
You got to make those people 

1084
00:57:15,500 --> 00:57:19,100
Reliant the same reason States. 
Constantly make you dependent on

1085
00:57:19,500 --> 00:57:23,000
intellectuals in I'm just 
remembering Milton Friedman said

1086
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:27,700
that, you know, if it was just 
education that the state wanted 

1087
00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:30,900
you to have. 
They would have school stamps, 

1088
00:57:30,900 --> 00:57:33,300
sort of like, food stamps. 
You can go to school wherever 

1089
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:34,600
you want. 
We'll give you the stamps 

1090
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,700
because we just care. 
It's important that they 

1091
00:57:36,700 --> 00:57:41,000
monopolize compulsory education,
because that's a much different.

1092
00:57:41,100 --> 00:57:43,200
It's a much different outcome. 
You people can see this. 

1093
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,900
When it's like, well, the donor 
class back, Pete Buddha, Jesus, 

1094
00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:50,300
and they backed Jeb Bush not and
it's not. 

1095
00:57:50,900 --> 00:57:52,700
He's a robot that they're 
controlling. 

1096
00:57:52,900 --> 00:57:55,500
What they do. 
Is they make the politicians 

1097
00:57:55,500 --> 00:57:58,600
reliant on them. 
And he who, you know, pays the 

1098
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,100
piper calls the tune. 
Well, obviously, it's the same 

1099
00:58:01,100 --> 00:58:05,300
thing with the the state. 
What are your thoughts on their 

1100
00:58:05,300 --> 00:58:08,800
beyond the control of the 
population completely, any 

1101
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:13,500
unaccountable Sovereign beyond 
the reach of any accountability 

1102
00:58:13,500 --> 00:58:17,100
whatsoever. 
Yeah, so I think I'm not sure I 

1103
00:58:17,107 --> 00:58:19,800
would fully go that they're 
completely unaccountable. 

1104
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,500
I think they Are in the sense 
that while they're connected. 

1105
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:25,200
So while they're in this 
symbiosis with the state, 

1106
00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:27,300
they're at their most powerful. 
Right? 

1107
00:58:27,500 --> 00:58:30,700
Because because of this, in 
States, granting them privilege 

1108
00:58:30,700 --> 00:58:33,100
and the company in the big 
businesses, in the media. 

1109
00:58:33,100 --> 00:58:35,000
They academic class. 
They're granting the state 

1110
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,100
privileges, right? 
So it's the Symbiote symbiotic 

1111
00:58:38,100 --> 00:58:41,700
relationship. 
And when this is going on, it is

1112
00:58:41,700 --> 00:58:43,500
very hard to hold any of them 
accountable. 

1113
00:58:43,500 --> 00:58:45,400
And also, it will to be to be 
clear. 

1114
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,800
You can't really hold the 
government accountable outside 

1115
00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,300
of like counter economic action 
and sir. 

1116
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:56,000
Local certain for certain local,
politic issues Federal trying to

1117
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:57,700
hold the federal government 
accountable is nearly 

1118
00:58:57,700 --> 00:59:00,200
impossible. 
So, I would grant that at this 

1119
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:02,000
moment. 
I'm anyway, but I don't think 

1120
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:06,700
it's there unaccountable in the 
sense that over the long span of

1121
00:59:06,700 --> 00:59:07,900
time. 
They're accountable. 

1122
00:59:08,000 --> 00:59:12,600
It certainly, you do see what 
would be like, you know, these 

1123
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,000
institutions, some of them do 
eventually fail right and 

1124
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:16,700
nuances. 
It's true. 

1125
00:59:16,700 --> 00:59:19,900
That new institutions do come to
take their place, but I do think

1126
00:59:19,900 --> 00:59:23,400
that in In. 
If you had a decentralized 

1127
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:27,900
market, I do think their ability
to grasp, our would be 

1128
00:59:27,900 --> 00:59:30,700
diminished greatly, and I don't 
think they'd be able to cement 

1129
00:59:30,700 --> 00:59:33,100
themselves in the positions that
they're cemented in, currently, 

1130
00:59:33,100 --> 00:59:37,200
in society. 
So if you are upset that there 

1131
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:41,100
are people without any 
accountability beyond control of

1132
00:59:41,107 --> 00:59:44,200
the population, you'd want to 
make sure that there was a free 

1133
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:47,300
market that people could 
disassociate, with employees, 

1134
00:59:47,500 --> 00:59:50,800
can not work there if they don't
want to, and you want, Employees

1135
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,800
to have the ability to do so, so
you'd want a free market where 

1136
00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,300
there were more options and more
businesses to choose from. 

1137
00:59:57,500 --> 01:00:01,400
You want consumers to have more 
options to stop consuming from 

1138
01:00:01,500 --> 01:00:04,600
whichever organization, was 
unaccountably controlling 

1139
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,600
Society. 
And also I'm actually not sure. 

1140
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:12,100
So I hope this isn't a strong 
man but isn't his whole thing 

1141
01:00:12,100 --> 01:00:15,900
that the Monarch being 
unaccountable is a good thing 

1142
01:00:16,100 --> 01:00:19,200
because you don't want 
accountability from the masses 

1143
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,500
who are generally Unformed and 
uncaring. 

1144
01:00:21,500 --> 01:00:25,500
So he's saying it's really bad 
that you know, the cathedral is 

1145
01:00:25,500 --> 01:00:29,000
like totally unaccountable. 
Also, we need a monarch who 

1146
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:30,400
doesn't have to answer to 
idiots. 

1147
01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:33,500
I can see pros and cons to both 
sides. 

1148
01:00:33,500 --> 01:00:36,700
I'm actually just thinking out 
loud with the with that one. 

1149
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:40,100
How do you think they would 
respond to or that? 

1150
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:44,200
He would respond to that of why 
I think his whole structured. 

1151
01:00:44,200 --> 01:00:46,100
So I think he's just being 
descriptive here. 

1152
01:00:46,100 --> 01:00:48,200
I'm not sure. 
He's this early prescribing that

1153
01:00:48,300 --> 01:00:50,200
it's necessarily bad. 
I think. 

1154
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:53,000
He's thinking more of this as an
end, like an engineering thing 

1155
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,000
where it's like, look, this is 
just the way it is. 

1156
01:00:55,000 --> 01:00:58,000
This is just how it works. 
So I'm not even sure who, when 

1157
01:00:58,008 --> 01:00:59,800
he says, they're completely 
unaccountable. 

1158
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:02,800
I don't think he's necessarily 
saying that's bad. 

1159
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,500
He's just saying, look, this is 
how it works. 

1160
01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,800
This is how bureaucracy works. 
This is a oligarchy works. 

1161
01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:12,400
Got it. 
He continues his concept of a 

1162
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,600
pressed controlled state, which 
I believe is in his book a 

1163
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:19,600
letter to open-minded 
progressivism progressives. 

1164
01:01:19,700 --> 01:01:23,200
But this was a again, on his 
discussion with Tucker Carlson. 

1165
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:27,200
He said the most powerful organ 
of government in the government 

1166
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,000
today is not even in the 
government. 

1167
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,500
I would say it's probably the 
New York Times. 

1168
01:01:31,800 --> 01:01:33,200
It's at least a reasonable 
thought. 

1169
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,400
And the interesting question is,
okay, is the New York Times a 

1170
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,800
democracy? 
How Is the New York Times 

1171
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:42,300
governed and then you think 
about it and you're like, oh, 

1172
01:01:42,300 --> 01:01:43,200
yeah. 
I see. 

1173
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,500
It's a fifth-generation 
hereditary, absolute monarchy. 

1174
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:51,400
Oh man, and try as you may, you 
cannot eliminate the swarm of 

1175
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,800
government. 
What are your thoughts on that 

1176
01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:57,000
statement? 
Well, I see I have a lot. 

1177
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,000
I have some problems with this 
statement. 

1178
01:01:59,200 --> 01:02:03,800
Surprisingly. 
So first off, I would say he's 

1179
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,800
saying that the New York Times 
is the the, you know, the 

1180
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,300
essentially because you know, 
there is something to this, 

1181
01:02:08,300 --> 01:02:09,400
right. 
There's absolutely I want to 

1182
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:10,200
give credit where. 
It's due. 

1183
01:02:10,300 --> 01:02:11,400
There's absolutely something to 
this. 

1184
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,200
We're in do in a democratic 
government and Democratic State,

1185
01:02:15,200 --> 01:02:18,900
you could very easily make the 
case that the media is in some 

1186
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:22,800
sense, the prime mover of 
political political interest in 

1187
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,300
political government in itself, 
right? 

1188
01:02:25,300 --> 01:02:28,600
Because they the media 
determines, what the topics are.

1189
01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:31,300
They determine like how you 
like, what are the appropriate 

1190
01:02:31,300 --> 01:02:34,400
ways you can do this topic and 
then people give that have this 

1191
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:37,000
illusion of choice when they go 
and look like when they actually

1192
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:38,500
vote. 
Now, in terms of it being 

1193
01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:41,300
Monarchy, I would just say that 
again. 

1194
01:02:41,300 --> 01:02:45,100
Would want to emphasize that you
have to be very careful and not 

1195
01:02:45,100 --> 01:02:48,100
to equivocate. 
So when he's talking about 

1196
01:02:48,100 --> 01:02:51,100
monarchy, there's a difference 
between a governance structure 

1197
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:55,800
in like an internal governance 
structure and a government. 

1198
01:02:55,900 --> 01:02:57,200
Right? 
So an internal governance 

1199
01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:01,600
structure might be like, I own a
piece of property or I own a 

1200
01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,200
business, and I am the Phi of 
the final say, in what goes, on 

1201
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,400
with the business, right? 
You could make the claim that 

1202
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:10,100
maybe, you know, this is my An 
article in the sense that this 

1203
01:03:10,100 --> 01:03:13,000
is a governance structure in, 
this is an internal governance 

1204
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:16,400
structure, but the difference 
between that in a monarchy, is 

1205
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,600
that a monarchy extends Beyond 
its own Justified, boundaries 

1206
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,000
into other boundaries and claims
to own the properties of other 

1207
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:26,500
people? 
And the people are, they actual 

1208
01:03:26,500 --> 01:03:29,300
persons of other people, too. 
So, I think it's very important 

1209
01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:33,200
not to we, make sure not to 
equivocate these two things and 

1210
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,300
sometimes you Arvin like 
threads, the needle and gets 

1211
01:03:36,300 --> 01:03:37,400
very close. 
I think. 

1212
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:42,700
As far as the New York Times is,
you know, the essentially, the 

1213
01:03:42,700 --> 01:03:45,000
main institution of the 
government. 

1214
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,700
So I that that may be true but I
think it's certainly less true 

1215
01:03:49,700 --> 01:03:52,200
today than it is in any other 
kind of History, right? 

1216
01:03:52,300 --> 01:03:55,400
If you look at the media, the 
Power of the media and the trust

1217
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:57,700
in the media, it's gone 
drastically down. 

1218
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:01,100
So this is why I'm hopeful and 
I'm not I don't I think your 

1219
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:04,200
oven has a much more pessimistic
view in which you would say is a

1220
01:04:04,207 --> 01:04:08,000
realist view. 
I do think technology is 

1221
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:11,100
ultimately going to lead to more
decentralisation, 50, 60 years 

1222
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:12,800
ago. 
They were three channels. 

1223
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,900
They were three channels right? 
Where it's like that. 

1224
01:04:14,900 --> 01:04:16,700
And that's how you consume your 
news. 

1225
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:19,500
That's how you got your news. 
That's how you got a lot of your

1226
01:04:19,500 --> 01:04:21,600
opinions about things. 
A lot of the ways you think 

1227
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,700
about things who to vote for, 
who is good, who was bad came 

1228
01:04:24,700 --> 01:04:28,700
from those three channels. 
Now, of course, those female 

1229
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:32,800
still exist, but because there's
so much competition, even if 

1230
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:34,600
that you want to say that, a lot
of this is kind of the 

1231
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:37,000
competition is controlled, which
is, that's certainly true. 

1232
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:39,300
There's still more competition 
and there are Alternate media 

1233
01:04:39,300 --> 01:04:42,500
sites, you know, your alternate 
media Keith. 

1234
01:04:42,500 --> 01:04:45,100
What we're doing right now is, 
you know, not is something that 

1235
01:04:45,100 --> 01:04:47,900
would never happen on one of the
big three channels, right? 

1236
01:04:47,900 --> 01:04:51,800
So, your oven is alternate 
media, you know, his sub stack. 

1237
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,400
So, you have all these things 
where, like, 50 60 years ago. 

1238
01:04:54,500 --> 01:04:56,800
These people would never have 
been heard from, like, even if 

1239
01:04:56,800 --> 01:04:58,700
you want to say that, yes, 
censorship is bad right now. 

1240
01:04:58,700 --> 01:05:02,100
And I agree with is the fact is 
it's better now than it was 50 

1241
01:05:02,100 --> 01:05:03,800
60 years ago. 
So I think if he's trying to 

1242
01:05:03,808 --> 01:05:07,200
tell me that the Press is 
controlling the state, and I'll 

1243
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:10,000
certainly by that I would say 
that the power certainly 

1244
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:14,200
weakening in a trajectory. 
It's if we look at us, long-form

1245
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:18,000
trajectory the power of the 
state or the, the power of the 

1246
01:05:18,000 --> 01:05:19,400
press over the people I should 
say. 

1247
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:26,400
Sorry is going down and his 
refusal to, you know, as someone

1248
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:29,700
who's read Hapa democracy, The 
God That Failed, especially the 

1249
01:05:29,707 --> 01:05:34,400
last four chapters of that book 
are just so explicitly 

1250
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:36,600
advocating for a system of 
anarchism. 

1251
01:05:36,600 --> 01:05:40,700
That, if you've read that you 
Often know the difference 

1252
01:05:40,700 --> 01:05:45,500
between hereditary, absolute 
monarchy in North Korea and 

1253
01:05:45,500 --> 01:05:50,300
hereditary monarchy in the form 
of, You Know, The Waltons at 

1254
01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:53,200
Walmart. 
I mean, you can always say well 

1255
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:56,500
it's impossible to compare those
and you know how they operate 

1256
01:05:56,500 --> 01:06:00,600
but he's just sort of 
categorizing them and a 

1257
01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,000
similarity that they happen to 
have. 

1258
01:06:02,008 --> 01:06:06,900
He's not differentiating, 
voluntary groups within 

1259
01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:09,000
voluntary. 
Has ations. 

1260
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:13,600
That's the that is just shocking
that he doesn't care to make 

1261
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:16,500
that distinction. 
And if you know, this is just a 

1262
01:06:16,508 --> 01:06:18,500
monarchy. 
Well, then he should just be in 

1263
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:23,100
and cap because you would have 
private courts and private 

1264
01:06:23,100 --> 01:06:27,700
police, that would be monarchies
because they have CEOs and 

1265
01:06:27,700 --> 01:06:30,300
monarchies are really good, and 
there's no difference between a 

1266
01:06:30,308 --> 01:06:31,400
state Monarch, right? 
Exactly. 

1267
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:37,500
And voluntary monarchy, so I 
don't see his point of his point

1268
01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:38,900
of Distinction. 
Here. 

1269
01:06:39,200 --> 01:06:44,900
So when he says, try as you may,
you cannot eliminate this form 

1270
01:06:44,900 --> 01:06:47,900
of government. 
Please call me out. 

1271
01:06:47,900 --> 01:06:50,600
If I am straw Manning here. 
But when I think I go. 

1272
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:53,300
Okay, what is he talking about? 
We have we have two things, we 

1273
01:06:53,308 --> 01:06:57,800
have monarchy, we have state 
monarchy, we have monarchy in 

1274
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:00,000
the private sector. 
Of course, you have the fascist 

1275
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:03,600
monarchy in mixed economies, 
which probably is closer to. 

1276
01:07:04,200 --> 01:07:08,000
But places like America and try 
as you may, you cannot eliminate

1277
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:10,700
this. 
Of government, is it is that 

1278
01:07:10,700 --> 01:07:16,700
falsifiable by saying, by me 
finding Empires that have been 

1279
01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:20,500
killed or forms of government 
that have been killed. 

1280
01:07:20,500 --> 01:07:24,700
Considering if I just look at 
things like in my generation 

1281
01:07:24,700 --> 01:07:26,800
alone? 
It's like a blockbuster Sears 

1282
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:31,400
Circuit City Myspace and AOL or 
like these big gigantic 

1283
01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,300
companies that everyone goes to.
Everyone knows about them and 

1284
01:07:35,300 --> 01:07:38,300
now they don't exist. 
So these are government. 

1285
01:07:38,500 --> 01:07:41,400
These are monarchies, private 
monarchies, totally 

1286
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:44,400
unaccountable that somehow have 
gone away, even though their 

1287
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:49,100
monarchies that you can't kill. 
Let's even look at government 

1288
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:50,800
monarchies. 
Well, you have the Ottoman 

1289
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:54,400
Empire which was killed. 
You have the British Empire 

1290
01:07:54,500 --> 01:07:57,800
which in 1913 ruled over four 
hundred twelve million. 

1291
01:07:57,800 --> 01:08:02,100
People also known as 24% of 
planet Earth. 

1292
01:08:02,300 --> 01:08:05,400
Thirteen point seven million 
square miles. 

1293
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:10,900
You have the Mongol Empire at 
Its height in the 14th century 

1294
01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:16,600
people like Genghis Khan, so I 
don't see how he can say that. 

1295
01:08:16,600 --> 01:08:20,600
You can't kill these monarchies 
when there's Wikipedia lists of 

1296
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,899
defunct of retailers. 
So those would be private 

1297
01:08:22,899 --> 01:08:26,500
monarchies lists of newspaper. 
So if we're just talking about 

1298
01:08:26,500 --> 01:08:28,899
the media and the Press 
controlled State, there are 

1299
01:08:28,899 --> 01:08:32,500
thousands of newspapers that are
no longer in business that were 

1300
01:08:32,600 --> 01:08:37,300
monarchies list of Empires in 
the state sector and monarchies 

1301
01:08:37,300 --> 01:08:41,800
that have That no longer exists 
that has to conflict with the 

1302
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,100
idea that try as you may cannot 
eliminate this form of 

1303
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:48,200
government by any stretch of 
what he means by monarchy. 

1304
01:08:48,300 --> 01:08:51,399
In every case. 
There have been like thousands 

1305
01:08:51,399 --> 01:08:54,800
that have been eliminated. 
Am I wrong on this? 

1306
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:58,000
Am I totally missing his point? 
I think what he would say is 

1307
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,800
that he's talking about the form
as opposed to the content. 

1308
01:09:00,800 --> 01:09:02,899
So I think what he would say is,
he would say that. 

1309
01:09:02,899 --> 01:09:07,200
Yeah, you know, you you might 
see these individual Commodities

1310
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:09,899
fail, but another monitor, He 
just takes its place, right? 

1311
01:09:09,899 --> 01:09:13,500
Kind of like my MySpace into 
Facebook, something like that. 

1312
01:09:13,700 --> 01:09:15,200
So I would actually disagree 
with that. 

1313
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:17,899
Ultimately, because I do think 
you can, and I think we're going

1314
01:09:17,899 --> 01:09:20,300
to get to this later when we 
talk about his whole idea about 

1315
01:09:20,300 --> 01:09:22,899
the cover of the conservation of
power in society. 

1316
01:09:22,899 --> 01:09:28,500
But I do think you can actually 
divide these, these power 

1317
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:30,500
structures. 
Okay. 

1318
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,100
So yeah, here are just just a 
screenshot of all the different 

1319
01:09:34,100 --> 01:09:37,600
Empires, bye-bye, like any 
reasonable metric. 

1320
01:09:37,700 --> 01:09:42,899
These As what's his word cannot 
eliminate. 

1321
01:09:42,899 --> 01:09:47,200
These are Empires, that were 
eliminated, Thomas Soul. 

1322
01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:49,600
So now we're back to the private
sector. 

1323
01:09:49,800 --> 01:09:51,200
He was saying that. 
Well, because of the 

1324
01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:54,200
Constitution, you know, you 
can't explicitly regulate the 

1325
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,800
New York Times there 
unaccountable. 

1326
01:09:56,100 --> 01:09:59,600
Well, Thomas Olsen is book. 
Basic economics is discussing 

1327
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,500
the rise and fall of business in
the income Mobility section. 

1328
01:10:03,900 --> 01:10:06,400
He says, ordinarily, we tend to 
think of businesses as simply 

1329
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:10,400
money, making Enterprises, but 
That can be very misleading in 

1330
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,300
at least two ways. 
First of all, about one-third of

1331
01:10:13,300 --> 01:10:16,400
all new businesses, fail to 
survive for two years and more 

1332
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:19,200
than half fail to survive for 
four years. 

1333
01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:23,200
So obviously many businesses are
losing money, even among the 

1334
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:25,500
truly Rich, there was turnover. 
Okay. 

1335
01:10:25,500 --> 01:10:30,000
So here we have the organization
failing but then you could say 

1336
01:10:30,300 --> 01:10:34,500
well, yeah, technically Empires 
and companies and those things 

1337
01:10:34,500 --> 01:10:37,700
exist, but you still have the 
people in power. 

1338
01:10:37,700 --> 01:10:40,500
So it just From like Myspace. 
Yeah, that goes. 

1339
01:10:40,500 --> 01:10:43,000
But then you have Facebook. 
Even the individuals. 

1340
01:10:43,100 --> 01:10:48,700
So under no definition of cannot
eliminate this counts as being 

1341
01:10:48,700 --> 01:10:52,100
eliminated, even among the truly
Rich, there was turned over when

1342
01:10:52,100 --> 01:10:55,500
Forbes Magazine ran its first 
list of the 400 richest 

1343
01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:59,300
Americans in 1982 that list 
included 14, Rockefellers 28, 

1344
01:10:59,300 --> 01:11:03,600
DuPont's and 11 Hunts. 20 years 
later the list included, three, 

1345
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,400
Rockefellers, one hunt and no 
DuPont's just over one-fifth of 

1346
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,600
the people. 
On the 1982, Forbes list of the 

1347
01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:14,100
wealthiest Americans inherited 
their wealth by 2006. 

1348
01:11:14,100 --> 01:11:18,200
However, only two percent of the
people on that list inherited 

1349
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:21,200
their wealth, so nice shot at 
commies for believing in 

1350
01:11:21,200 --> 01:11:24,200
intergenerational wealth, and 
one person getting wealthy and 

1351
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:26,600
then his heirs being wealthy 
forever and everyone else being 

1352
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,400
impoverished. 
But it also hits at this fact 

1353
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,500
that but there are unaccountable
nothing you can do. 

1354
01:11:31,700 --> 01:11:34,800
Unless we issue a monarchy. 
Then we're base. 

1355
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,700
Our hands are tied to the 
cathedral. 

1356
01:11:37,900 --> 01:11:40,200
I He is just explicitly wrong on
this. 

1357
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:41,600
Anything else. 
I'm you think I might be 

1358
01:11:41,608 --> 01:11:43,200
missing. 
No, I think you're. 

1359
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:49,500
I think you're get on. 
All right, this the italics is a

1360
01:11:49,500 --> 01:11:52,100
quote again on Tucker. 
He's talking about the Gilded 

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01:11:52,100 --> 01:11:53,300
Age. 
Could you read that quote, 

1362
01:11:53,300 --> 01:11:54,600
please? 
Yeah sure. 

1363
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:58,200
He goes on to say if you see a 
description of the Gilded Age, 

1364
01:11:58,300 --> 01:12:01,000
go to an old American city. 
See all those brick buildings 

1365
01:12:01,000 --> 01:12:04,600
and that beautiful old stuff. 
All like DC, you know, all that 

1366
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,600
is built within what we call the
Gilded Age which is a period 

1367
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:09,400
when America was governed very 
much. 

1368
01:12:09,400 --> 01:12:12,300
The way China is. 
Now it was very corrupt 

1369
01:12:12,300 --> 01:12:15,300
politics. 
It was incredibly sorted screwed

1370
01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:16,900
up. 
Shit got done. 

1371
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:21,100
So that I believe is is his 
ultimate point. 

1372
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:24,700
He goes look there's all these 
systems and you can have these 

1373
01:12:24,700 --> 01:12:29,100
beliefs and this ideology. 
I want stuff to get done. 

1374
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:34,000
When I see a place that was like
empty and then it has these nice

1375
01:12:34,000 --> 01:12:38,300
buildings, whatever, got the 
buildings there, whatever, time 

1376
01:12:38,300 --> 01:12:41,800
preference and set of incentives
that got these buildings built. 

1377
01:12:41,800 --> 01:12:43,900
That's the place. 
I want to live in this. 

1378
01:12:43,900 --> 01:12:47,400
I mainly took out because so I 
think it just gets to the idea 

1379
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,200
of I really want to be favorable
to him as much as possible. 

1380
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:53,900
Not because not because he's 
dying for my approval. 

1381
01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:57,300
But so I could understand one of
the most brilliant people who 

1382
01:12:57,300 --> 01:13:00,500
I've ever had the pleasure of 
speaking with any thoughts on 

1383
01:13:00,500 --> 01:13:07,100
getting into what how this shit 
got done mindset when looking at

1384
01:13:07,100 --> 01:13:09,400
his criticisms of libertarianism
overall. 

1385
01:13:11,000 --> 01:13:14,200
Well, I do want to address this 
for one thing because II did 

1386
01:13:14,200 --> 01:13:17,200
want to actually jump in and 
talk about like how he's saying 

1387
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:21,500
how you know, it was corrupt. 
The politics was corrupt and you

1388
01:13:21,500 --> 01:13:23,400
know, shit got them. 
Okay. 

1389
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,800
Well the first thing I'd want to
point out here is that the 

1390
01:13:26,800 --> 01:13:30,700
correlate like all I see is 
without further evidence to 

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01:13:30,700 --> 01:13:33,100
support his point. 
I just see this as a correlation

1392
01:13:33,100 --> 01:13:36,600
causation fallacy, right? 
Like even if you correlate that 

1393
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,600
the Gilded Age had very corrupt 
politics and the time an It's a 

1394
01:13:40,608 --> 01:13:43,100
crop right now to but the you 
his point would be that they 

1395
01:13:43,108 --> 01:13:45,900
would be more like back. 
Head back handed dirty like 

1396
01:13:45,900 --> 01:13:50,300
thuggish politics, which I would
still say happens right now, but

1397
01:13:50,300 --> 01:13:52,900
beyond that if we just grant him
the point for a second, I would 

1398
01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:56,300
still see this as a correlation 
causation fallacy visit just 

1399
01:13:56,300 --> 01:13:58,700
because it's code, that's 
correlated with that time. 

1400
01:13:58,700 --> 01:14:03,800
Period doesn't imply. 
That the the politics is what 

1401
01:14:03,800 --> 01:14:09,000
caused The Innovation or the 
building of of these of these 

1402
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:10,200
landmarks that you would see 
today. 

1403
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:13,000
Day or any of the things that we
would associate with the Gilded 

1404
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:15,400
Age like the technology will 
advancement. 

1405
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,600
Yeah. 
I mean, I think whatever sort of

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01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:23,300
system whether it's 
collaborative private-public 

1407
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:27,600
that he's saying the Gilded Age 
was but because he's not saying 

1408
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:32,300
it was communism under a monarch
or it was free market as mmm. 

1409
01:14:32,500 --> 01:14:35,500
Where was Robert Higgs makes the
point in his book Transformation

1410
01:14:35,500 --> 01:14:39,400
of the American economy. 
He intentionally uses 1865 to 

1411
01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:42,100
1913. 
Where there was this general? 

1412
01:14:42,100 --> 01:14:44,900
Of course, it was a Spanish 
American war, but there was not 

1413
01:14:44,900 --> 01:14:48,700
this war economy, like we have 
today or something like that. 

1414
01:14:48,700 --> 01:14:51,000
Higgs uses that period because 
he goes, all right. 

1415
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:54,700
So we've been devastated with 
the Civil War 600,000 deaths and

1416
01:14:54,700 --> 01:14:56,700
then the first world war 
obviously, another hundred and 

1417
01:14:56,700 --> 01:14:58,900
seventeen thousand, you know, 
Americans dead. 

1418
01:14:58,900 --> 01:15:01,900
That was a wartime economy. 
Was there any growth in this 

1419
01:15:01,900 --> 01:15:03,600
age? 
And Hicks said, yeah, this 

1420
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,000
Gilded Age. 
We had much more of a free 

1421
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:10,200
market than you otherwise would 
have had if you had this. 

1422
01:15:10,300 --> 01:15:13,300
This war economy, the bigger the
war economy gets. 

1423
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,100
Well, everyone else wants a 
piece of that honey pot. 

1424
01:15:16,100 --> 01:15:19,500
So the teachers and the 
Agriculture and the farmers, and

1425
01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:21,700
every other industry doesn't 
just stay silent. 

1426
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:23,400
They see. 
Hey, this government's growing, 

1427
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,500
I got to get a slice of that and
then everyone gains at the 

1428
01:15:26,500 --> 01:15:30,100
expense of everyone else. 
Of course, if we're looking for 

1429
01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:33,000
the determining factors of what 
makes countries, Rich. 

1430
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,900
Certainly you could by his 
definition, North Korea has to 

1431
01:15:36,900 --> 01:15:39,900
be a hereditary. 
Monarchy from Kim il-sung to 

1432
01:15:39,900 --> 01:15:40,700
Kim. 
Alta. 

1433
01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:44,000
Kim Jang, Hoon, if you look at 
that versus South Korea, where 

1434
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:47,100
is the shit? 
Got done East Germany vs. 

1435
01:15:47,100 --> 01:15:49,200
West, Germany, where is more 
shit getting done. 

1436
01:15:49,400 --> 01:15:52,900
Botswana vs. 
Zimbabwe Ghana verse Ivory 

1437
01:15:52,900 --> 01:15:54,400
Coast. 
When they received independence 

1438
01:15:54,400 --> 01:15:55,700
from Britain, where was the 
shit? 

1439
01:15:55,700 --> 01:15:59,200
Getting done East, Germany? 
And West. 

1440
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:02,200
Germany is probably the best 
example, of course, finally, 

1441
01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:03,900
they started addressing this. 
I don't know if you've heard but

1442
01:16:03,900 --> 01:16:06,600
they said, well, that's not a 
comparison. 

1443
01:16:06,900 --> 01:16:09,800
A good comparison is Sweden vs. 
America, of course, you could 

1444
01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:13,000
all you have To do is look at 
swedes who are in America and 

1445
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:17,600
see that more of that they're 
wealthier than they are in 

1446
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,300
Sweden. 
So that's a better comparison. 

1447
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:22,400
But as far as East Germany, not 
having a lot of Natural 

1448
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,200
Resources, what they say. 
Well, Hong Kong, barely has any,

1449
01:16:25,200 --> 01:16:27,400
but because of free trade 
policies and more private 

1450
01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:31,200
property and contracts. 
They are much more of a getting 

1451
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:33,300
shit done. 
Even you look at India since 

1452
01:16:33,300 --> 01:16:36,200
1991. 
There were forms or China since 

1453
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:39,200
1979. 
They were certainly the monarchy

1454
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:42,100
under Mao while they Starving, 
but the more private property 

1455
01:16:42,300 --> 01:16:45,500
and the more free exchange they 
had, well, they were wealthier. 

1456
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:49,100
So, but we'll get into the China
stuff later. 

1457
01:16:49,300 --> 01:16:51,600
Final thoughts on shit getting 
done in the Gilded Age. 

1458
01:16:52,300 --> 01:16:54,700
Well, I think, you know, this 
goes back to the whole point 

1459
01:16:54,700 --> 01:16:57,100
with rothbard was just like, you
know, production precedes 

1460
01:16:57,100 --> 01:17:00,200
predation. 
So like whenever people want to 

1461
01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:03,500
try to make this about, you 
know, we'll look, the state was 

1462
01:17:03,500 --> 01:17:06,800
doing this during this time, 
period and X growth happened, 

1463
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,700
right? 
It just doesn't those things. 

1464
01:17:08,700 --> 01:17:11,700
Don't imply one. 
Another Really, so I would make 

1465
01:17:11,700 --> 01:17:13,000
the claim that everything you 
see. 

1466
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:17,600
All technological advancement 
comes from entrepreneurs in the 

1467
01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,200
market producing value. 
For other people, that value 

1468
01:17:20,200 --> 01:17:23,300
gets distributed through society
and it gets built up in 

1469
01:17:23,300 --> 01:17:27,700
generated in the form of more 
technology Capital, you know, 

1470
01:17:27,700 --> 01:17:31,200
just institutions themselves. 
So, whenever people see that, I 

1471
01:17:31,208 --> 01:17:33,600
think it's a much safer 
assumption to assume that this 

1472
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,900
was the act of a market of 
Market transactions, rather than

1473
01:17:37,100 --> 01:17:39,800
a any type of government 
protection or interference. 

1474
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:44,900
Yeah, and we get a lot of people
escaping, much more monocle Cuba

1475
01:17:45,500 --> 01:17:49,400
escaping through America, rather
than people escaping DeSantis to

1476
01:17:49,600 --> 01:17:53,100
be, under the kind rule of, I 
forget who took over for Castro 

1477
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:56,100
who ever did. 
But, but the reason I use that, 

1478
01:17:56,100 --> 01:18:00,000
those sorts of comparisons also,
Chile and Venezuela, similar 

1479
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,900
populations in similar similar 
geographical areas. 

1480
01:18:02,900 --> 01:18:05,000
Those are just better 
comparisons. 

1481
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:07,100
You can't get any controlled 
experiments, but you can get 

1482
01:18:07,100 --> 01:18:11,700
close. 
Even I say this because A lot of

1483
01:18:11,900 --> 01:18:14,700
his support God. 
I feel like such a weasel saying

1484
01:18:14,700 --> 01:18:17,400
this but it is important. 
A lot of people say, the white 

1485
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,300
countries are wealthy and the 
black countries are impoverished

1486
01:18:20,500 --> 01:18:22,500
and that's pretty much all we 
need to know. 

1487
01:18:22,900 --> 01:18:27,700
Well, even if you just look at 
the Botswana Zimbabwe example by

1488
01:18:27,700 --> 01:18:30,900
every metric Botswana having 
more private property than 

1489
01:18:30,900 --> 01:18:33,700
Zimbabwe is doing better Haiti 
and the Dominican Republic. 

1490
01:18:33,700 --> 01:18:37,400
They're like on the same island 
and Haiti is not nearly as 

1491
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:39,700
wealthy as the Dominican 
Republic. 

1492
01:18:39,700 --> 01:18:42,700
So in Every race and every 
geographical area. 

1493
01:18:42,800 --> 01:18:46,500
It's important to point out 
wherever this experiment is 

1494
01:18:46,500 --> 01:18:49,700
done. 
We still get we get more shit 

1495
01:18:49,700 --> 01:18:52,600
getting done. 
Then we get in anything else. 

1496
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,000
It's always important to find 
the actual cause of something 

1497
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:57,400
versus like the correlation you 
see with it. 

1498
01:18:58,500 --> 01:19:02,100
Yeah, not not easy. 
So, here is his take on 

1499
01:19:02,100 --> 01:19:03,600
Hamilton. 
Would you mind reading this? 

1500
01:19:03,900 --> 01:19:06,300
Sure, he go. 
He quotes. 

1501
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:09,900
He's a, are he see? 
This is him talking Hamilton. 

1502
01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:12,000
He's normally just a Secretary 
of the Treasury. 

1503
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:14,500
He's basically running 
everything and Washington is 

1504
01:19:14,500 --> 01:19:16,200
running political interference 
for him. 

1505
01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:19,600
So you have the system, which is
actually it works a lot like a 

1506
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,700
monarchy which is like a 
company. 

1507
01:19:21,700 --> 01:19:24,200
A startup. 
It's like, do you drive a car? 

1508
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,200
Your car was made by a monarchy.
Do you go to a restaurant? 

1509
01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:29,600
Your restaurant is? 
Monarchy every functional 

1510
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:32,900
institution in the world has 
this very simple pyramid 

1511
01:19:32,900 --> 01:19:37,900
structure and quote. 
So again Hamilton giving us the 

1512
01:19:38,900 --> 01:19:42,500
expansive commerce clause which 
was later used to determine how 

1513
01:19:42,500 --> 01:19:48,200
much food you can grow on your 
own land because that determines

1514
01:19:48,500 --> 01:19:51,800
how much will be traded if a 
lots grown in Arizona. 

1515
01:19:52,100 --> 01:19:55,200
Well, then that's going to 
affect Commerce with other 

1516
01:19:55,200 --> 01:19:59,300
states. 
So this is The blank check sort 

1517
01:19:59,300 --> 01:20:03,400
of mindset that how do they get 
the states to have ultimate 

1518
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:06,300
power. 
Well, they just roll things in a

1519
01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:08,900
much more General way and 
promoting the general welfare, 

1520
01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:13,100
not to mention First Bank of the
United States, the ideology that

1521
01:20:13,100 --> 01:20:15,700
later gave us this Central 
Banking hellhole of 

1522
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:20,700
monopolizing, the currency in 
the worst way possible. 

1523
01:20:20,700 --> 01:20:22,500
Yeah. 
Not allowing for competition to 

1524
01:20:22,500 --> 01:20:25,600
keep the monarchs on on their 
toes. 

1525
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,000
So I'm not sure what else to say
besides the fact. 

1526
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:32,300
That we have refuted the private
versus public or coercive first 

1527
01:20:32,300 --> 01:20:33,900
voluntary. 
Monarchy thing. 

1528
01:20:34,300 --> 01:20:36,500
Yeah, a hundred times. 
Yeah. 

1529
01:20:38,000 --> 01:20:40,800
So he then he continues to talk 
about Hamilton. 

1530
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,300
He says, and he Hamilton created
this monarchy, right? 

1531
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:47,400
But of course, he goes out, does
a stupid duel and the system 

1532
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,400
degrades it basically falls 
apart and it becomes more and 

1533
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,300
more oligarchic. 
So we Libertarians that are so 

1534
01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:57,200
often called. 
Well, we sort of have this Pie 

1535
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:59,800
in the Sky idea and if 
everything's going okay, maybe 

1536
01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:02,400
you could have it but you know, 
if there's like a greedy 

1537
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:05,500
monopolist things will go bad 
and because that's always going 

1538
01:21:05,500 --> 01:21:08,200
to happen. 
Then you know this Some just 

1539
01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:12,200
unrealistic. 
Well, here he says, we had a 

1540
01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:15,800
monarch Hamilton and because of 
one death. 

1541
01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:20,200
So one person dies and the 
system degrades, and the guy had

1542
01:21:20,200 --> 01:21:22,300
such bad judgment. 
He thought going into a duel 

1543
01:21:22,300 --> 01:21:24,800
with Aaron Burr was would be 
beneficial. 

1544
01:21:25,100 --> 01:21:29,500
So we look at all the eggs. 
You're putting in this one 

1545
01:21:29,500 --> 01:21:33,700
menaka basket. 
The one that came to mind was 

1546
01:21:33,700 --> 01:21:36,300
Franz Ferdinand getting 
assassinated. 

1547
01:21:36,300 --> 01:21:40,100
So The Story Goes No, bad 
consequences from that exact 

1548
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:43,200
exactly that Serbian 
intelligence hired. 

1549
01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:47,400
The black hand organization to 
assassinate the Archduke. 

1550
01:21:47,400 --> 01:21:50,400
So he couldn't expand the 
austro-hungarian Empire. 

1551
01:21:50,700 --> 01:21:53,400
They have these demands, which 
Serbia Meats, but Austria, still

1552
01:21:53,400 --> 01:21:56,000
declares war thinking, they have
a blank check from Germany 

1553
01:21:56,300 --> 01:22:00,300
Russia mobilizes, Britain 
declares war because Germany 

1554
01:22:00,300 --> 01:22:03,800
invades France through Belgium 
based on an old treaty that 

1555
01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:06,200
Britain had Britain needed the 
US. 

1556
01:22:06,200 --> 01:22:09,500
So they use the loose. 
Jania as a justification to 

1557
01:22:09,500 --> 01:22:12,100
enter the war and killing all 
these people giving us the 

1558
01:22:12,100 --> 01:22:14,800
Versailles treaty, giving us the
rise of Hitler in the second 

1559
01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,900
world war. 
So, please don't tell me that 

1560
01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:20,300
the free market is unstable. 
And it's kind of like, you know,

1561
01:22:20,300 --> 01:22:22,800
people just eating Doritos and 
bad things happening. 

1562
01:22:23,000 --> 01:22:26,700
Look at all this war and hell 
that the monarchs brought Upon 

1563
01:22:26,700 --> 01:22:30,100
Us, shouldn't this great Monarch
Oracle system of low time. 

1564
01:22:30,100 --> 01:22:32,300
Preference have stopped all 
this, could they have gotten 

1565
01:22:32,300 --> 01:22:34,900
together and shaken hands over 
anything? 

1566
01:22:35,300 --> 01:22:37,600
Final thoughts on one death away
from degradation. 

1567
01:22:37,700 --> 01:22:39,300
Asian? 
Yeah, no, I think that's a 

1568
01:22:39,308 --> 01:22:41,700
brilliant point because it's 
like, you know, we Libertarians 

1569
01:22:41,700 --> 01:22:44,000
are always criticized for like, 
oh, well, you know, you have 

1570
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,400
this free market but what 
happens when there's a mistake 

1571
01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:50,700
made or what happens when, you 
know, it coalesces into a state,

1572
01:22:50,700 --> 01:22:54,200
you know, these firms congregate
into a state and it's like yeah,

1573
01:22:54,200 --> 01:22:56,400
that's a possibility. 
I'll be honest. 

1574
01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:58,400
It's possibility. 
It's true, it could happen. 

1575
01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:01,100
But it's that bad things could 
happen with every structure of 

1576
01:23:01,100 --> 01:23:02,200
government. 
And just like you said, with 

1577
01:23:02,200 --> 01:23:07,300
World War one, you had all these
monarchies in World War one who 

1578
01:23:07,300 --> 01:23:10,400
just Fumbled like they fumbled 
everything in the worst. 

1579
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:11,900
Catastrophic what you can 
imagine. 

1580
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:16,100
Moving on. 
Oh, okay. 

1581
01:23:16,100 --> 01:23:19,800
So this is just a general 
pattern that I've seen where 

1582
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:22,400
he'll say, look, we tried XX 
doesn't work. 

1583
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:27,400
He will only have that standard 
for either the voluntary sector,

1584
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:32,200
or maybe democracy. 
So when the free market fails it

1585
01:23:32,200 --> 01:23:33,900
failed, and that's why we need 
to reject it. 

1586
01:23:33,900 --> 01:23:36,600
But when monarchy fails, we just
need to reform it. 

1587
01:23:36,600 --> 01:23:39,700
It's actually a neutral tool. 
Well, can I say either the free 

1588
01:23:39,700 --> 01:23:42,600
market works perfectly or their 
shortcomings, in which case, we 

1589
01:23:42,600 --> 01:23:44,600
should reform it, not throw the 
baby out with the bath water. 

1590
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,700
He doesn't give us what he says 
their shortcomings. 

1591
01:23:48,700 --> 01:23:50,700
So we need this one. 
Well, their shortcomings and 

1592
01:23:50,708 --> 01:23:52,600
everything. 
These are gosh. 

1593
01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:54,000
Right? 
What would you call it? 

1594
01:23:54,100 --> 01:23:57,300
I think I mentioned it later but
these are constants that apply 

1595
01:23:57,600 --> 01:23:59,900
in every circumstance. 
So he's not telling us the 

1596
01:23:59,900 --> 01:24:03,200
distinguishing feature of the 
monarchy besides saying, well, 

1597
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:05,800
it's a pyramid structure and all
the great things, the 

1598
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,000
restaurants, and who makes your 
car monarchies. 

1599
01:24:08,500 --> 01:24:11,300
Exactly goes into differentiate.
Yeah. 

1600
01:24:13,100 --> 01:24:14,500
Do you have any thoughts on 
this? 

1601
01:24:14,900 --> 01:24:18,200
The reason I pull up the Khmer 
Rouge picture here is just 

1602
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:22,100
because, I mean, prices go up in
the free market, even though the

1603
01:24:22,100 --> 01:24:26,300
Federal Reserve causes it and 
immediately, they blame great, 

1604
01:24:26,300 --> 01:24:29,700
all all the businesses in 
concert got greedy, at the same 

1605
01:24:29,700 --> 01:24:32,300
time, out of nowhere. 
But governments, can commit 

1606
01:24:32,300 --> 01:24:33,300
Mass. 
Genocide. 

1607
01:24:33,300 --> 01:24:34,900
No be like it. 
Well, yeah. 

1608
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:35,400
Yes. 
Yeah. 

1609
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,700
Yes. 
We need reform. 

1610
01:24:36,700 --> 01:24:39,100
It's like that Meme where the 
Communist is. 

1611
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:41,300
The Communist. 
Professor says national 

1612
01:24:41,300 --> 01:24:44,500
socialism is inherently evil 
communism. 

1613
01:24:44,700 --> 01:24:50,400
You know, I think we need reform
such a good idea. 

1614
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:52,800
We just need to reform it that 
this blatant. 

1615
01:24:52,800 --> 01:24:56,900
Double standard keeps showing up
every time he discusses 

1616
01:24:56,900 --> 01:24:59,800
libertarianism. 
Yeah, you said like, I see this 

1617
01:24:59,800 --> 01:25:01,400
all the time. 
We want to argue on Twitter by 

1618
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,900
Kate, you know, I can give the, 
the example of ancient Ireland, 

1619
01:25:05,900 --> 01:25:09,400
which was stateless for 2,000 
years, and people say, well, 

1620
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:11,900
it's where is it right now, you 
know, it doesn't exist right 

1621
01:25:11,900 --> 01:25:13,700
now. 
So obviously anarchism doesn't 

1622
01:25:13,700 --> 01:25:15,300
work. 
Well, Just as you showed in the 

1623
01:25:15,300 --> 01:25:18,500
previous slide, you have all 
those Empires that are no longer

1624
01:25:18,500 --> 01:25:19,800
with us. 
Where's Rome? 

1625
01:25:19,900 --> 01:25:21,200
What happened to the Roman 
Empire? 

1626
01:25:21,300 --> 01:25:23,500
Right? 
So the fact that, you know, if 

1627
01:25:23,500 --> 01:25:25,700
you're going to say that 
anarchism fails because this one

1628
01:25:25,700 --> 01:25:29,400
Anarchist Society, eventually 
failed after 2000 years. 

1629
01:25:29,700 --> 01:25:33,000
What about all these monarchies 
who lasted far fewer years, 

1630
01:25:33,100 --> 01:25:34,300
right? 
Should we say that? 

1631
01:25:34,300 --> 01:25:37,200
Well, I guess if anarchism 
doesn't work, because you can 

1632
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,500
point to an example or a 
numeron, number of examples 

1633
01:25:40,500 --> 01:25:43,400
where they're no longer with us.
I can do the exact same for 

1634
01:25:43,400 --> 01:25:45,900
monarchy, so, Argument just does
not work. 

1635
01:25:45,900 --> 01:25:47,400
You had. 
You can't play a double standard

1636
01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:51,500
like that and expect it for it 
to be persuadable to most 

1637
01:25:51,500 --> 01:25:55,800
people. 
And the other monarchs you 

1638
01:25:55,800 --> 01:26:00,000
refers to, he sort of says, LBJ 
much more power than the 

1639
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:01,700
presidency today, but not 
really. 

1640
01:26:01,700 --> 01:26:05,800
He says the big three are 
Hamilton Lincoln and FDR, when 

1641
01:26:05,800 --> 01:26:08,600
it comes to Lincoln. 
We've already gone over after 

1642
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:11,600
you are. 
What would you say is the 

1643
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:17,200
verdict on Lincoln and LBJ as 
far as net benefits or 

1644
01:26:17,300 --> 01:26:18,800
negatives? 
Yeah. 

1645
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:23,300
Well, I mean Lincoln, who is 
probably up there for me on one 

1646
01:26:23,300 --> 01:26:26,100
of the The top three worst 
Presidents who ever existed 

1647
01:26:26,900 --> 01:26:29,500
insta. 
Credit, you know instituted 

1648
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:34,900
slavery on a massive scale in 
the form of conscription and 

1649
01:26:34,900 --> 01:26:36,500
through people into a meat 
grinder. 

1650
01:26:36,700 --> 01:26:40,200
He call it, he violated the 
Constitution, he right? 

1651
01:26:40,200 --> 01:26:44,300
He put He would lock up. 
People just expressing anti-war 

1652
01:26:44,300 --> 01:26:46,800
opinions. 
He would have their businesses 

1653
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:49,600
or they're like press burned 
down if they were expressing 

1654
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,600
anti-war opinions, but he would 
Institute the first income. 

1655
01:26:53,700 --> 01:26:57,800
Packs in America, he would, you 
know, and of course, you know, 

1656
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:02,200
the Civil War which did not need
to happen, is a just monstrous 

1657
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:06,600
in, it's Carnage in totality. 
You look at like the the actions

1658
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:09,600
of Sherman Sherman's, march in 
the South and it's just a 

1659
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,200
terrific. 
So yeah. 

1660
01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:16,100
LBJ, of course, you know, gives 
the Great Society, really the 

1661
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:19,200
creation of the welfare state, 
and that has had disastrous 

1662
01:27:19,200 --> 01:27:22,300
effects on just the American 
population in general. 

1663
01:27:22,500 --> 01:27:27,000
It's it Eyes like Mutual Aid and
what would normally be 

1664
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:29,200
considered social functions of 
like churches? 

1665
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,800
Mutual Aid societies and 
everything else into the state's

1666
01:27:32,900 --> 01:27:37,300
purview and because of that, the
state now in some sense is seen,

1667
01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:41,600
as the is seen as such an 
essential function of society 

1668
01:27:41,800 --> 01:27:44,900
that most people would be scared
to ever, like think about even, 

1669
01:27:44,900 --> 01:27:48,300
you know, getting rid of the, 
the welfare state because they 

1670
01:27:48,300 --> 01:27:50,900
genuinely think that, well, we 
need the welfare state because 

1671
01:27:50,900 --> 01:27:53,200
if we didn't have it, then 
everything would just collapse. 

1672
01:27:53,200 --> 01:27:54,600
It would be Dying in the 
streets. 

1673
01:27:54,600 --> 01:27:58,500
Oh, so, you know and of course, 
you know, there's so many things

1674
01:27:58,500 --> 01:27:59,700
you could say about all these 
presents. 

1675
01:27:59,700 --> 01:28:02,500
But that those are the main main
things that come to mind 

1676
01:28:02,500 --> 01:28:04,600
immediately for me. 
Exactly. 

1677
01:28:04,600 --> 01:28:09,500
And I'm sure that your oven is 
not necessarily like this 

1678
01:28:09,800 --> 01:28:14,200
anti-colonialist, but when it 
comes to, I mean, people 

1679
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:18,700
advocating the Lincoln, as you 
know, one of their tops, he was 

1680
01:28:18,700 --> 01:28:21,900
like the ultimate colonizer like
these people fighting for their 

1681
01:28:21,900 --> 01:28:23,100
independence. 
Notice. 

1682
01:28:23,100 --> 01:28:26,300
They never say. 
Well, in Africa, the 

1683
01:28:26,300 --> 01:28:28,500
independence movements weren't 
inherently good. 

1684
01:28:28,500 --> 01:28:31,400
The anti-apartheid weren't 
necessarily good cuz they might 

1685
01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:32,900
have been replaced with 
something worse. 

1686
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:36,200
So, all of a sudden, they're the
ones now who have the standard 

1687
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:40,100
for well independence. 
From foreign rule is Sometimes 

1688
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:42,600
good sometimes bad. 
And in the Lincoln case, it was 

1689
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:45,600
good because the benefits 
outweigh the cost. 

1690
01:28:45,700 --> 01:28:48,800
They never have that statement 
when it comes to any of the 

1691
01:28:48,800 --> 01:28:53,500
African countries leaving 
British Imperial Rule and it 

1692
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:55,400
Change. 
The dynamic of the country. 

1693
01:28:55,400 --> 01:29:00,200
Is it, is it a country that has 
States, or states, that formed a

1694
01:29:00,200 --> 01:29:02,100
country that gets us into so 
much? 

1695
01:29:02,100 --> 01:29:08,800
And of course, 600,000 deaths, 
much higher than a percentage, 

1696
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,700
as a percentage percentage of 
the population. 

1697
01:29:10,700 --> 01:29:14,200
Then alleged covid deaths that 
we have now and of course, 

1698
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,700
covid-19, the ultimate perv 
libertarianism can't work for 

1699
01:29:17,700 --> 01:29:20,800
two months until they looked at 
the genome only to find this 

1700
01:29:20,800 --> 01:29:23,000
does not look like it was 
created in nature. 

1701
01:29:23,100 --> 01:29:26,700
Look, What's that? 
The first cases happen to be 900

1702
01:29:26,700 --> 01:29:29,900
kilometers away from the closest
Batcave in Wuhan, that was 

1703
01:29:29,900 --> 01:29:32,000
actually people who happen to 
work at the lab. 

1704
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:34,600
What are the chances? 
So, of course, turns out the 

1705
01:29:34,700 --> 01:29:39,600
government not only overreacted 
but created this virus LBJ. 

1706
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:44,100
Yeah Gulf of Tonkin. 
These people both lied us into 

1707
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:48,800
Wars and enslaved millions of 
men only to be told that they 

1708
01:29:49,100 --> 01:29:53,500
have male privilege later on the
worst form, of course, Medicare.

1709
01:29:53,600 --> 01:29:56,000
And Medicaid changing the 
healthcare system from a 

1710
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:01,000
consumer-based industry where 
companies have to please 

1711
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,000
consumers. 
Now, they focus more on pleasing

1712
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,200
governments, and that's why 
health care costs are through 

1713
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:10,600
the roof Civil Rights, Movement,
forced Association. 

1714
01:30:10,900 --> 01:30:14,400
Just just terrible. 
His, his examples of here, the 

1715
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:17,600
monarchs and monarchy is good. 
We have to recognize that the 

1716
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:23,900
worst are the the monarchs here.
Again, he equivocates with 

1717
01:30:24,800 --> 01:30:28,900
Thaddius Russell, but just tell 
me if there's anything. 

1718
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:31,100
What we can add to this. 
That hasn't already said. 

1719
01:30:31,500 --> 01:30:34,100
Your husband says, if you drive 
a car, your car was made by a 

1720
01:30:34,100 --> 01:30:35,600
monarchy. 
Imagine the Department of 

1721
01:30:35,608 --> 01:30:38,400
Transportation trying to make 
electric cars and compared to 

1722
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:42,200
Elon Musk anything there. 
Yeah, so, I actually have a lot 

1723
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:44,500
to say about this. 
Be so equivocation for people 

1724
01:30:44,500 --> 01:30:47,300
who don't know, equivocally 
equivocation is when you use the

1725
01:30:47,300 --> 01:30:50,100
same word, but you used it in 
two different ways and generally

1726
01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:51,800
the same. 
Um, argument or same meet your 

1727
01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:55,400
same structure, right? 
So with and this I also want to 

1728
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,400
go into a little detail and 
explain what what I think you 

1729
01:30:58,407 --> 01:31:00,600
are man is doing here 
unintentionally. 

1730
01:31:00,600 --> 01:31:04,100
I'm not assuming malice here. 
I think he's engaging in what's 

1731
01:31:04,100 --> 01:31:07,100
called a mod Bailey fallacy. 
So, what the mop Bailey fallacy 

1732
01:31:07,100 --> 01:31:10,700
is, is the you have a mod. 
Like, it's essentially when you 

1733
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:16,300
propose a common sensical, 
uncontroversial proposition in 

1734
01:31:16,300 --> 01:31:19,800
your first half and then you 
Swit, you do an equivocation on 

1735
01:31:19,800 --> 01:31:22,100
the later half. 
It's called the Bailey and you 

1736
01:31:22,100 --> 01:31:27,600
switch it to an extremely narrow
like controversial claim. 

1737
01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:31,300
So, an example of this would be 
like, if your oven is saying 

1738
01:31:31,500 --> 01:31:34,700
that monitor, you, these 
companies are just like 

1739
01:31:34,700 --> 01:31:38,000
monarchies right there. 
Like they have a CEO, the top 

1740
01:31:38,100 --> 01:31:41,800
they have someone at the top and
then it's structured downward 

1741
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:42,500
from there. 
Right? 

1742
01:31:42,500 --> 01:31:46,400
Okay, you could say that there 
are they're structured like a 

1743
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:50,000
monarchy in a sense that yeah, 
they imitate a monarchy. 

1744
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,900
But when he goes, and then tries
to say, therefore, the 

1745
01:31:53,900 --> 01:31:57,800
government should be right in 
there for, if monarchies. 

1746
01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:00,400
Okay for a business. 
Well, then it should be okay for

1747
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:03,100
a government to, or, or that 
they're the same thing. 

1748
01:32:03,100 --> 01:32:07,300
And anyway, it's not the case at
all in a private property 

1749
01:32:07,300 --> 01:32:09,000
scheme. 
You could say that, you know, 

1750
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,600
you are the monarch of your 
property, but that doesn't imply

1751
01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:16,500
that monarchy in a governmental 
sense, is the same thing as 

1752
01:32:16,500 --> 01:32:19,300
monarchy in a private property 
says, they're not the same thing

1753
01:32:19,300 --> 01:32:21,500
and I think the He's very 
dangerous. 

1754
01:32:22,800 --> 01:32:27,900
Yeah, and to just take his his 
concept of the monarchy being 

1755
01:32:27,900 --> 01:32:31,700
justified. 
I mean, I don't know how else to

1756
01:32:31,700 --> 01:32:35,300
say it besides. 
Well, if someone went up to you 

1757
01:32:35,300 --> 01:32:38,400
and started declaring that he 
was the king of you didn't care 

1758
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:40,300
about your consent as no Monarch
does. 

1759
01:32:40,700 --> 01:32:44,000
Would you like if he just 
started regulating Jarvan sub 

1760
01:32:44,000 --> 01:32:47,900
stack and saying you can report 
on this wood yard and say thank 

1761
01:32:47,900 --> 01:32:48,600
God. 
Finally. 

1762
01:32:48,600 --> 01:32:52,800
I'm under the rule of someone's 
long term, low time preference. 

1763
01:32:53,000 --> 01:32:55,700
This is terrific. 
I mean, if this thing is so 

1764
01:32:55,700 --> 01:33:00,100
inherently good, why is it only 
a state that but that can have 

1765
01:33:00,100 --> 01:33:03,100
this, this rule? 
Well, one of the things that I'm

1766
01:33:03,100 --> 01:33:04,900
thinking, well, we'll come to 
mind as he can say. 

1767
01:33:05,200 --> 01:33:09,100
Well, how about Raytheon or even
Elon Musk that got a lot of 

1768
01:33:10,100 --> 01:33:12,500
government subsidy. 
So there the distinguishing 

1769
01:33:12,500 --> 01:33:15,800
between private and public is 
sort of like this fake thing 

1770
01:33:15,800 --> 01:33:20,300
that only the childish and cap 
Still Still believes in. 

1771
01:33:21,300 --> 01:33:24,400
What he's not doing is 
recognizing that there is still 

1772
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:30,200
a difference in potential and 
there are explicit differences. 

1773
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,200
I mean death, even if there is 
some overlap in some societies 

1774
01:33:34,200 --> 01:33:36,900
at some points. 
We still have this conceptual 

1775
01:33:36,900 --> 01:33:38,700
difference. 
So yes, the government at this 

1776
01:33:38,700 --> 01:33:42,600
point with trillions of dollars 
and so in all these Regulatory 

1777
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:46,000
Agencies, technically affects 
everyone and everything, but so 

1778
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:48,200
does the Catholic church? 
That doesn't mean we can't 

1779
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:52,200
narrow down the Catholic Church.
Effects and whether or not it's 

1780
01:33:52,200 --> 01:33:56,000
statements are true and it's a 
good organization language 

1781
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,900
affects everything. 
I mean, what other institutions 

1782
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,400
just developed? 
This is what the 1619 project 

1783
01:34:01,400 --> 01:34:06,700
does with with racism that 
anything that exists indirectly 

1784
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:11,000
was, the result of something in 
the cotton industry, which was 

1785
01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:14,400
the result of slavery there for 
literally everything. 

1786
01:34:14,800 --> 01:34:19,300
Yes, can be tied to racism. 
So, if there is a nail that was 

1787
01:34:19,300 --> 01:34:24,900
used to make, Shoes that the 
slaves war in the on the 

1788
01:34:24,900 --> 01:34:27,700
plantations. 
Well, then the nail industry and

1789
01:34:27,700 --> 01:34:31,500
everything that touches it well 
that all accounts to towards 

1790
01:34:31,700 --> 01:34:34,600
slave GDP. 
And that's how you can come up 

1791
01:34:34,600 --> 01:34:40,100
with like cotton was like 90% of
the American economy. 

1792
01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:42,100
That's how their calculations 
go. 

1793
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:46,900
They engage in what Jason 
Brennan referred to as double 

1794
01:34:46,900 --> 01:34:49,100
accounting. 
Of course, it goes back to, you 

1795
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:50,600
know, Renaissance. 
Italy. 

1796
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,300
And it's an old term. 
But the point is that Brennan 

1797
01:34:53,900 --> 01:34:58,700
was the one who made the long 
case that that was their, that 

1798
01:34:58,700 --> 01:35:01,200
their major fallacy, right? 
Yeah. 

1799
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:03,300
So, yeah, the equivocation is 
very dangerous. 

1800
01:35:03,300 --> 01:35:05,900
I just wanted to say that the, 
it would be like saying, like, 

1801
01:35:05,900 --> 01:35:09,100
if I have a blue pen and a blue 
car, we can compare the 

1802
01:35:09,100 --> 01:35:12,100
blueness, right? 
We can compare the two aspects 

1803
01:35:12,100 --> 01:35:15,300
that they're both blue, but that
does that ignores the 

1804
01:35:15,700 --> 01:35:17,500
differences that are 
fundamental. 

1805
01:35:17,700 --> 01:35:20,900
Right? 
And I know he's not Saying that 

1806
01:35:20,900 --> 01:35:22,100
these things are. 
I don't think he's trying to say

1807
01:35:22,100 --> 01:35:24,900
that they're exactly the same 
but in his implication he sort 

1808
01:35:24,900 --> 01:35:26,600
of implying that. 
Well, if it's good for the goose

1809
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:30,000
is good for the gander, which is
not not the same one. 

1810
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,000
You considered, like, what a 
firm is it? 

1811
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,500
When you consider like, what the
structure of a governance is in 

1812
01:35:36,500 --> 01:35:40,900
an internal aspect versus what a
gut, what a government is, 

1813
01:35:40,900 --> 01:35:44,300
because the government is 
affects things external from 

1814
01:35:44,300 --> 01:35:45,900
itself. 
So I think that's the major 

1815
01:35:45,900 --> 01:35:49,300
distinction. 
He then mentions to Thaddeus 

1816
01:35:49,300 --> 01:35:55,100
Russell that if you look at its 
we can't just say private 

1817
01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:57,100
incentive. 
Good public. 

1818
01:35:57,100 --> 01:36:00,500
Disincentive bad because two of 
the biggest engineering projects

1819
01:36:00,500 --> 01:36:05,100
of all time were the Manhattan 
Project and the Apollo project 

1820
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:07,000
where these done by that private
sector. 

1821
01:36:07,100 --> 01:36:11,500
No. 
So notice how he calls the plot 

1822
01:36:11,500 --> 01:36:14,200
to indiscriminately engage in 
mass murder. 

1823
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:17,800
The Manhattan Project. 
He supposed supposed to the The 

1824
01:36:17,800 --> 01:36:21,700
mass murderers a bomb, of 
course, you wouldn't. 

1825
01:36:21,900 --> 01:36:27,300
That is just like what? 
A show to distract from. 

1826
01:36:27,900 --> 01:36:29,900
Hey, this yeah, it was really 
big. 

1827
01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:31,500
Was it? 
Beneficial? 

1828
01:36:31,500 --> 01:36:36,600
Was it - I mean, doesn't the 
effects of the thing matter if 

1829
01:36:36,600 --> 01:36:39,800
we're caring about consumers, 
benefiting from the existence of

1830
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,600
a monarchy or democracy or the 
citizens. 

1831
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,600
Well, it matters. 
What the thing. 

1832
01:36:44,600 --> 01:36:49,900
Is that what is your Anse to the
Manhattan Project and Apollo. 

1833
01:36:49,900 --> 01:36:53,100
And we could even steal 
maintenance a DARPA, giving us 

1834
01:36:53,100 --> 01:36:56,400
interconnected networks to 
communicate in the event of a 

1835
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:59,900
nuclear crisis. 
And that is what we today. 

1836
01:36:59,900 --> 01:37:02,000
Call the internet. 
Yes. 

1837
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:04,800
Sure. 
So I would say, first of all, 

1838
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:09,800
the Manhattan Project like 
spawned is, you're saying, like 

1839
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:13,500
one of the single biggest events
of mass murder in a single 

1840
01:37:13,500 --> 01:37:16,000
event, right? 
Like, this is nothing to be 

1841
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:20,600
proud of. 
In any sense, so I find it 

1842
01:37:20,900 --> 01:37:21,900
funny. 
He's using the example. 

1843
01:37:21,900 --> 01:37:24,700
This it's like look if you're 
big in the biggest engineering 

1844
01:37:24,700 --> 01:37:27,000
projects is that you're building
bombs, right? 

1845
01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,400
So this is supposed to be some 
Marvel, some big thing. 

1846
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:32,500
We're supposed to look at. 
It's like, it seems to me, not 

1847
01:37:32,500 --> 01:37:35,000
even if you take out the 
morality of the issue, the idea 

1848
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:38,700
that you're putting all this, 
all this engineering into 

1849
01:37:38,900 --> 01:37:43,500
blowing it up is seems to be a 
complete waste of value right 

1850
01:37:43,500 --> 01:37:45,300
from just an economic 
perspective. 

1851
01:37:45,300 --> 01:37:47,300
So the fact that okay, we're 
going to put all this money. 

1852
01:37:47,500 --> 01:37:52,900
And all these resources into a 
bomb that's going to just just 

1853
01:37:52,900 --> 01:37:55,600
destroy things. 
It's like that's not generating 

1854
01:37:55,600 --> 01:37:58,000
wealth in any sense, right? 
That you're just throwing 

1855
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,600
something away and you're doing 
worse than throwing it away or 

1856
01:38:00,600 --> 01:38:04,500
throwing something away in an 
aspect where it's going to kill 

1857
01:38:04,500 --> 01:38:07,100
hundreds of thousands of people 
in a single and a single 

1858
01:38:07,100 --> 01:38:09,400
explosion. 
So that that's terrible. 

1859
01:38:09,500 --> 01:38:13,900
As far as the Apollo project. 
There were close to 400,000 

1860
01:38:13,900 --> 01:38:17,400
private contractors a part of 
the Apollo program. 

1861
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,300
Right, so you could say that in 
some sense. 

1862
01:38:20,300 --> 01:38:25,300
It was, you know, a waste, you 
know, I'm sure there's an 

1863
01:38:25,300 --> 01:38:28,500
emotional aspect to it. 
But he ultimately doing this. 

1864
01:38:28,800 --> 01:38:31,400
It showed what we could do. 
So that's good. 

1865
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:34,800
But ultimately, you know, it was
still done by many private 

1866
01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:38,200
individuals and you know who's 
to say that those were that was 

1867
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:40,900
the best use of resources. 
Perhaps we could have done it in

1868
01:38:40,900 --> 01:38:43,000
other ways. 
And if you look at SpaceX now, 

1869
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:45,600
you know, private companies are 
doing this so they're doing it 

1870
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:48,000
on their own dime. 
So whenever Trying to say, We'll

1871
01:38:48,000 --> 01:38:50,100
look at all these marvelous, 
engineering projects. 

1872
01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:52,200
We did. 
If you don't have the ability, 

1873
01:38:52,200 --> 01:38:54,700
if your government, if you're 
looking at the government's 

1874
01:38:54,700 --> 01:38:57,100
engineering projects, you're 
like, okay, how could this money

1875
01:38:57,100 --> 01:38:58,800
have been spent in other areas, 
right? 

1876
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,800
You always have to imagine, you 
know, the opportunity costs 

1877
01:39:01,800 --> 01:39:03,500
here. 
What was lost by doing 

1878
01:39:03,500 --> 01:39:06,800
committing this action? 
Yeah, if you want to go to the 

1879
01:39:06,800 --> 01:39:11,000
moon or go anywhere, just just 
voluntarily fund, it, please 

1880
01:39:11,100 --> 01:39:14,700
just let people opt out. 
What, why is this such a hassle 

1881
01:39:14,900 --> 01:39:17,000
for us to have the same 
standards for others? 

1882
01:39:17,700 --> 01:39:22,700
We have this like the most basic
thing, and they just continue to

1883
01:39:22,700 --> 01:39:29,200
reject it the A-bomb. 
So you have the result, which is

1884
01:39:29,600 --> 01:39:32,400
indiscriminate mass murder. 
But then what conservatives, 

1885
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,400
what Dennis prager's of the 
world would say, is well, sorry,

1886
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:38,300
but that's the kind of Leverage 
you need in reality. 

1887
01:39:38,300 --> 01:39:40,700
Just like the gun does can't be 
uninvented. 

1888
01:39:40,700 --> 01:39:44,100
So yes, even though the 
rosenbergs then gave it to the 

1889
01:39:44,100 --> 01:39:47,300
Soviets, it was going to be 
invented anyway. 

1890
01:39:47,600 --> 01:39:50,500
The Germans were working on it. 
And now we need it. 

1891
01:39:50,700 --> 01:39:56,500
Well in the yarv inion response 
to this could be a bad thing 

1892
01:39:56,500 --> 01:40:00,800
because less Monarch achill, 
America had more leverage 

1893
01:40:00,800 --> 01:40:05,200
against more Monarch achill. 
Soviet Union China. 

1894
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:09,000
Today Russia today, it will 
comparing Russia Today to 

1895
01:40:09,000 --> 01:40:11,700
America as far as which one is 
more of a monarchy certainly 

1896
01:40:11,700 --> 01:40:16,700
places like Iran and North Korea
are more Monarch achill than 

1897
01:40:17,100 --> 01:40:21,500
than Erica. 
So if it's good that we have the

1898
01:40:21,500 --> 01:40:25,400
Manhattan Project then he's also
saying it's good, that less 

1899
01:40:25,400 --> 01:40:29,400
monarchy America had more 
leverage over monarchies. 

1900
01:40:29,900 --> 01:40:34,400
Like the Soviets, the Chinese 
today, North Koreans today and 

1901
01:40:34,400 --> 01:40:37,500
Iran today, where alcohol is 
still illegal. 

1902
01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:42,600
So I don't I don't see how any 
of this adds up to him. 

1903
01:40:42,700 --> 01:40:46,600
Making a really good point. 
I think it's just the right look

1904
01:40:46,600 --> 01:40:47,300
it up. 
What? 

1905
01:40:47,500 --> 01:40:49,700
Can be done. 
So whether it's good or bad, big

1906
01:40:49,700 --> 01:40:52,300
thing can happen. 
Therefore, we should recognize 

1907
01:40:52,300 --> 01:40:56,900
the legitimacy and do other good
things with well, with this and 

1908
01:40:56,900 --> 01:41:00,300
are darker for a second. 
They always able to government 

1909
01:41:00,300 --> 01:41:02,300
invented the Internet. 
No, not really. 

1910
01:41:02,300 --> 01:41:05,200
Because if you if you actually 
look at it, they hired the 

1911
01:41:05,208 --> 01:41:08,700
people who were already building
the substrate, that would become

1912
01:41:08,700 --> 01:41:12,400
DARPA in the internet already. 
So people like private people 

1913
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:15,600
private Engineers were already 
working on this type of stuff 

1914
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:17,300
and they essentially just got 
co-opted. 

1915
01:41:17,500 --> 01:41:20,500
Into a state project, so it's 
not that you know, well the 

1916
01:41:20,500 --> 01:41:23,000
state we never have internet. 
That's not true. 

1917
01:41:24,000 --> 01:41:27,700
Yeah, I mean I guess the thing 
is is that when you have an 

1918
01:41:27,700 --> 01:41:33,300
organization this big it's not 
like well, what does you know, a

1919
01:41:33,300 --> 01:41:37,700
company like Epson printers, you
can kind of gauge the number of 

1920
01:41:37,700 --> 01:41:42,800
people who use the printers and 
what those things are what's 

1921
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,900
printed and who the consumers 
are of the stuff that's printed 

1922
01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,200
even though it's kind of hard 
because there's a big chain who 

1923
01:41:48,200 --> 01:41:49,900
reads the books. 
What value do they get from the 

1924
01:41:49,900 --> 01:41:52,100
books? 
So it's hard to really gauge the

1925
01:41:52,100 --> 01:41:55,100
value of the Epson. 
Company, just by looking at 

1926
01:41:55,100 --> 01:41:57,700
numbers. 
Well, now, imagine if, instead 

1927
01:41:57,700 --> 01:42:00,800
of a, you know, relatively big, 
but small in the span of things 

1928
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,700
company, instead. 
You have a government that has 

1929
01:42:03,700 --> 01:42:08,600
trillions of dollars every year 
that it taxes and redistributes.

1930
01:42:08,800 --> 01:42:11,600
Of course, they're going to 
affect directly or indirectly 

1931
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,000
anything. 
If you gave the Koch brothers of

1932
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:16,800
Magic Money printing machine in 
the right to tax and regulate 

1933
01:42:17,200 --> 01:42:20,900
then the Koch brothers would be 
making things like the Manhattan

1934
01:42:20,900 --> 01:42:26,100
Project and they could You know,
fund, one thing that later 

1935
01:42:26,100 --> 01:42:30,500
became the Apple computer or 
they could regulate an industry 

1936
01:42:30,500 --> 01:42:33,500
in such a way that later 
resulted in something good, 

1937
01:42:33,500 --> 01:42:35,800
like, wireless routers or 
something like that. 

1938
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:40,300
If you give anyone this much 
power and this much money, yes, 

1939
01:42:40,300 --> 01:42:41,200
good. 
Things are going to happen. 

1940
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,200
If you shoot money out of a 
helicopter. 

1941
01:42:43,500 --> 01:42:45,500
Some people are going to catch 
it, spend it on things and 

1942
01:42:45,500 --> 01:42:47,900
they're going to benefit. 
That doesn't mean hey, we should

1943
01:42:47,900 --> 01:42:50,800
have a general rule of shooting 
money out of a helicopter, but 

1944
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:56,000
only a monopoly, can have it. 
And Yeah, this this might be his

1945
01:42:56,000 --> 01:43:00,100
strongest point that look at 
what can be done through 

1946
01:43:01,000 --> 01:43:04,600
government monarchies and I 
still don't think it. 

1947
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:05,900
It holds up. 
Yeah. 

1948
01:43:07,200 --> 01:43:12,800
Here we have the pencil analogy,
which he gives to Thaddeus 

1949
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,200
Russell. 
I tried to summarize this, the 

1950
01:43:15,200 --> 01:43:18,400
best that I could. 
So in other words, when things 

1951
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:22,800
are going well, you can have 
small or no state or Center of 

1952
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,700
massive. 
Disproportionate power is 

1953
01:43:25,800 --> 01:43:29,100
necessary. 
If things get really bad, such 

1954
01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:31,800
power becomes necessary to 
re-establish, an equilibrium. 

1955
01:43:32,100 --> 01:43:35,500
Well, even my summary was bad 
and I spent like five minutes 

1956
01:43:35,500 --> 01:43:37,200
trying to do trying to write 
that. 

1957
01:43:37,200 --> 01:43:41,100
So he's saying, if you have a 
pencil and it sort of wobbles, 

1958
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:43,100
you don't need much power to 
pick it up. 

1959
01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:46,000
Well, imagine if it's now a 
telephone pole, a telephone 

1960
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:49,200
pole, if it's up straight, you 
can put your hand on it and 

1961
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:52,400
actually hold this thing up, but
if the telephone full the 

1962
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:57,100
telephone pole, Paul being 
Society, if it's on its side, 

1963
01:43:57,300 --> 01:43:59,800
you can't. 
You need a crane, you need 

1964
01:43:59,800 --> 01:44:04,000
something with a lot of power in
this case, if Society is totally

1965
01:44:04,300 --> 01:44:07,100
just degradation everywhere. 
Total degeneracy. 

1966
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:10,500
Yeah, you need a big Monarch, 
heavy State very powerful. 

1967
01:44:10,700 --> 01:44:14,600
So just because libertarianism 
is true under normal 

1968
01:44:14,600 --> 01:44:18,000
circumstances that does not 
mean, it's true in emergency 

1969
01:44:18,200 --> 01:44:22,200
circumstances and we cannot 
engage in passive action. 

1970
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:25,800
Thoughts on the pencil, and LG. 
Yeah, so there's a couple things

1971
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:27,300
I think, I think there's wrong 
with this. 

1972
01:44:27,300 --> 01:44:32,100
So his it's true in some sense 
is analogy speaks to the fact 

1973
01:44:32,100 --> 01:44:35,600
that it's also tautology where 
it's like, yeah, when things 

1974
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,700
were going good. 
They're going good. 

1975
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:40,500
Right? 
Like obviously, you know, most 

1976
01:44:40,500 --> 01:44:43,900
systems can survive when most 
things are going good for them. 

1977
01:44:43,900 --> 01:44:47,200
That that's just true. 
It's a truism. 

1978
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:51,500
So when he says well, you know 
the past when the telephone pole

1979
01:44:51,500 --> 01:44:53,600
falls down and that being, you 
know, an analogy. 

1980
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,300
Society, you need some stronger 
power to pick it up. 

1981
01:44:56,300 --> 01:45:00,700
Well, I don't think his analogy 
accounts for the fact that what 

1982
01:45:00,700 --> 01:45:05,200
happens when the state isn't it 
in a state of chaos, for lack of

1983
01:45:05,200 --> 01:45:07,200
a better term, right? 
What happens when things are 

1984
01:45:07,200 --> 01:45:11,200
going terrible in the state? 
Or what happens when an outside 

1985
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:15,500
Monarch or an outside state is 
like tries to take over that 

1986
01:45:15,500 --> 01:45:18,100
state, right? 
So the fact that I think I would

1987
01:45:18,100 --> 01:45:21,300
disagree with his point that 
will you need this powerful 

1988
01:45:21,300 --> 01:45:24,600
structure, this state to Pick it
back up. 

1989
01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:26,400
Right? 
So you might say, you need some 

1990
01:45:26,400 --> 01:45:29,700
form of organizing principle or 
some sort of organizing 

1991
01:45:29,700 --> 01:45:33,000
structure to pick the telephone 
pole back up, but that doesn't 

1992
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,600
that alone doesn't imply a state
that just implies some 

1993
01:45:35,600 --> 01:45:39,000
organizing structure with power.
So there's no reason. 

1994
01:45:39,000 --> 01:45:41,500
It has to be a monopoly on 
violence and also, you know, 

1995
01:45:41,500 --> 01:45:44,000
it's his analogy doesn't 
preclude. 

1996
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:47,200
The fact that the state itself 
could suffer from that very 

1997
01:45:48,100 --> 01:45:49,800
predicament. 
That's that the state itself 

1998
01:45:49,800 --> 01:45:51,900
could be the telephone pole 
falling down. 

1999
01:45:52,500 --> 01:45:55,600
Exactly. 
If we cut, if the falling poll 

2000
01:45:55,800 --> 01:46:00,900
is society in Decay states have 
cause Decay since the beginning 

2001
01:46:00,900 --> 01:46:03,900
of time. 
Anyone trying to monopolize 

2002
01:46:04,900 --> 01:46:06,700
territory. 
They haven't, justly acquired 

2003
01:46:06,700 --> 01:46:10,000
through original appropriation, 
or voluntary exchange that has 

2004
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:12,300
been chaotic since I don't know 
forever. 

2005
01:46:12,600 --> 01:46:17,800
So, to pin this on the market, I
mean, mom, you could just say 

2006
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:20,900
yeah, monarchies good. 
When everything's going well and

2007
01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:22,100
you know, the guys not too 
tight. 

2008
01:46:22,200 --> 01:46:24,300
A radical. 
But look, if things get bad in, 

2009
01:46:24,300 --> 01:46:28,400
the Monarch is a tyrant like in 
North Korea, or Chairman Mao, or

2010
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:31,000
Joseph Stalin or something. 
You just can't have that. 

2011
01:46:31,000 --> 01:46:34,400
So that's when you need the 
power of the free market, 

2012
01:46:34,400 --> 01:46:37,200
decentralized information, 
freedom of Association. 

2013
01:46:37,200 --> 01:46:39,100
That's how you pick up the 
telephone pole. 

2014
01:46:39,800 --> 01:46:44,000
I don't see how this is anything
that uniquely applies negatively

2015
01:46:44,300 --> 01:46:48,800
to the voluntary sector again, 
also, he uses the term passive 

2016
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,800
action, so you can't just have 
passive active passive. 

2017
01:46:52,300 --> 01:46:56,600
He much assumes a person 
standing still and things just 

2018
01:46:56,600 --> 01:47:01,000
passing them. 
So I was assuming that non-state

2019
01:47:01,000 --> 01:47:04,400
that, that people aren't acting 
and the absence of a state. 

2020
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:06,100
There's no one who's ambitious. 
Jeff. 

2021
01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:09,700
Bezos couldn't have been 
ambitious to lower the price of 

2022
01:47:09,700 --> 01:47:13,400
books to the point where I have 
access to more information than 

2023
01:47:13,400 --> 01:47:16,300
most of the Kings throughout 
history that because that wasn't

2024
01:47:16,300 --> 01:47:21,300
done by a monarch. 
The that's just passive, right? 

2025
01:47:21,300 --> 01:47:24,300
Yeah, this is Like I'm sure I 
don't want to assume Alice. 

2026
01:47:24,300 --> 01:47:26,900
I assume is intentional. 
But this is comes across to me 

2027
01:47:26,900 --> 01:47:30,700
as the most straw, man of all 
his positions Society of passive

2028
01:47:30,700 --> 01:47:32,900
action. 
It's like, I've never heard any 

2029
01:47:32,900 --> 01:47:36,000
libertarian or any Anarchist 
thinker thing that thinks we'll 

2030
01:47:36,000 --> 01:47:40,000
just flip a switch and then 
we'll be on autopilot, or 

2031
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:41,900
something like that. 
Is it, is it in just, that would

2032
01:47:41,900 --> 01:47:44,900
completely it? 
Just discounts the idea of 

2033
01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:48,000
Entrepreneurship in like a 
Mississippian theory in the 

2034
01:47:48,000 --> 01:47:50,900
first place, right? 
Entrepreneurs are not passive 

2035
01:47:50,900 --> 01:47:52,100
actors. 
There's there. 

2036
01:47:52,200 --> 01:47:56,300
Problem solvers, which in turn 
generates value for people, 

2037
01:47:56,800 --> 01:48:01,900
which in turn implies that they 
are directed towards actions and

2038
01:48:01,900 --> 01:48:06,300
ends and means that would 
complement your get them to 

2039
01:48:06,300 --> 01:48:08,400
those ends. 
So, this idea of passive action.

2040
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,800
I don't know where that comes 
from quite quite honestly. 

2041
01:48:11,700 --> 01:48:15,200
Yeah, the entrepreneurs is the 
great example, but even in 

2042
01:48:15,200 --> 01:48:17,500
ambitious employee, yeah. 
All right. 

2043
01:48:17,500 --> 01:48:22,100
Anyone for someone who's just 
like very caring, I guess. 

2044
01:48:22,100 --> 01:48:24,800
Very wanting to. 
I really want to help the poor. 

2045
01:48:24,800 --> 01:48:26,300
We're going to, you know, build 
st. 

2046
01:48:26,300 --> 01:48:28,500
Mary's food. 
And I think it's the name of the

2047
01:48:28,500 --> 01:48:32,100
place and Phoenix. 
I mean that could be, you know, 

2048
01:48:32,100 --> 01:48:34,600
trying to pick up the worst 
parts of society. 

2049
01:48:34,600 --> 01:48:37,200
The people in most vulnerable 
positions, let's call it. 

2050
01:48:38,200 --> 01:48:41,800
That could be trying to 
re-establish the pole through 

2051
01:48:41,800 --> 01:48:45,000
the voluntary sector. 
So if he's just looking for 

2052
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:47,800
sometimes you need heavily 
centralized power. 

2053
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,600
Since again, he doesn't like to 
differentiate between the 

2054
01:48:50,608 --> 01:48:54,900
voluntary sector and The 
alternative you could have 

2055
01:48:54,900 --> 01:48:59,700
churches the story of Jesus. 
There's, are there any 

2056
01:48:59,700 --> 01:49:03,300
Christian? 
Are there any theocracies in in 

2057
01:49:03,300 --> 01:49:06,700
the world, like explicitly for 
just in practice? 

2058
01:49:06,700 --> 01:49:10,500
I mean, I guess, Iran, I mean, I
guess might be outclassed you in

2059
01:49:10,500 --> 01:49:11,600
some sense. 
Yeah. 

2060
01:49:11,700 --> 01:49:13,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, really the Vatican. 

2061
01:49:13,700 --> 01:49:19,300
So the churches have the ability
to influence people heavily. 

2062
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:22,000
Look at the amount of money that
churches race people go there. 

2063
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:25,500
Once or twice a week and 
churches, make tons and tons of 

2064
01:49:25,500 --> 01:49:29,200
money by people choosing to 
give, I mean, talk about if 

2065
01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:31,800
schools could be privatized how 
much money they could raise. 

2066
01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:34,500
Look, the people who want to 
give, give if you don't want to 

2067
01:49:34,500 --> 01:49:37,400
give and just go for free, the 
church is happy to have you. 

2068
01:49:37,400 --> 01:49:42,400
So churches companies like 
Odyssey, that is an example of 

2069
01:49:42,400 --> 01:49:45,600
non-passive action of ambition, 
trying to lift up the pole of 

2070
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:49,200
censorship from YouTube and you 
have thought leaders John Locke,

2071
01:49:49,500 --> 01:49:51,400
Martin Luther King, you have 
Gandhi. 

2072
01:49:52,200 --> 01:49:54,900
People are widely recognized. 
Of course, I think people like 

2073
01:49:55,100 --> 01:50:00,400
molyneux and rothbard would 
would, of course, fall in there.

2074
01:50:00,600 --> 01:50:03,000
And then I, of course, but 
they're still down sides of this

2075
01:50:03,000 --> 01:50:06,700
heavily centralized power, such 
as genocide Mass starvation. 

2076
01:50:06,700 --> 01:50:09,900
There's no correcting mechanism.
They could contribute to poverty

2077
01:50:09,900 --> 01:50:13,700
and misery. 
So, any final thoughts on, I 

2078
01:50:13,700 --> 01:50:17,100
think this is just part one of 
any thoughts on the pencil 

2079
01:50:17,100 --> 01:50:18,600
analogy further. 
Yeah. 

2080
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,900
I think that you pretty much 
summarized the beautiful like 

2081
01:50:20,900 --> 01:50:22,300
this. 
It's like I'll also I I would 

2082
01:50:22,300 --> 01:50:26,100
just end with, you know, you 
know, the data for when I I 

2083
01:50:26,100 --> 01:50:29,400
think the the most annoying 
thing about you know, this part 

2084
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:33,200
is that he equivocates power to 
assume state power. 

2085
01:50:33,300 --> 01:50:36,700
Like it just like power. 
You don't have to have state 

2086
01:50:36,700 --> 01:50:38,200
power to have power. 
Right? 

2087
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:42,300
The power is in some sense. 
It's not exclusive to the state.

2088
01:50:42,300 --> 01:50:45,500
So, you know, going off that 
your example, the bottom here, 

2089
01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:48,300
you know, when the state falls 
into chaos, what happens when 

2090
01:50:48,300 --> 01:50:51,300
the state itself is the pole 
that falls down, right? 

2091
01:50:51,300 --> 01:50:53,300
Well, do you need them? 
The state to pick that up or 

2092
01:50:53,300 --> 01:50:55,500
what if that pull falls down. 
Do you need another state to 

2093
01:50:55,500 --> 01:50:57,700
pick that stayed up? 
It's like, you know, you kind of

2094
01:50:57,700 --> 01:51:00,700
get into this infinite regress 
where there's no actual solution

2095
01:51:02,100 --> 01:51:03,900
and you just had. 
And that's what, you know, 

2096
01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,400
Market decentralisation is in 
some sense, the best solution 

2097
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,300
because there's always someone 
else out there. 

2098
01:51:10,400 --> 01:51:12,900
There's always another 
entrepreneur out there, trying 

2099
01:51:12,900 --> 01:51:15,300
to solve the problem better than
the last entrepreneur. 

2100
01:51:15,900 --> 01:51:18,500
Oh, yeah, certainly. 
If you look at like the problem,

2101
01:51:18,500 --> 01:51:22,700
if we think of major problem 
being ignorance, certainly 

2102
01:51:22,700 --> 01:51:25,700
places like Barnes & Noble 
Andrew Carnegie establishing. 

2103
01:51:25,700 --> 01:51:30,900
The first libraries in America 
that we still have ambitious 

2104
01:51:30,900 --> 01:51:33,600
people who can have a 
disproportionate amount of power

2105
01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:36,700
and it's good that the smart 
people have more power in 

2106
01:51:36,700 --> 01:51:39,100
certain sectors. 
For the same reason that it's 

2107
01:51:39,100 --> 01:51:41,300
good. 
That people can buy a lot more. 

2108
01:51:41,300 --> 01:51:47,300
A Dell CDs than Keith Knight 
CDs, which are never Just so 

2109
01:51:47,300 --> 01:51:50,200
even though there's drastic 
inequality and she has so much 

2110
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:53,700
power one Adele tweet could 
change, what people are talking 

2111
01:51:53,700 --> 01:51:57,000
about all over the planet. 
Whereas my tweets try, as I may 

2112
01:51:57,100 --> 01:52:00,500
doesn't exactly do that. 
You can still have massive power

2113
01:52:00,500 --> 01:52:02,300
centers. 
He continues with the pencil 

2114
01:52:02,300 --> 01:52:06,200
analogy saying, moreover the 
further your pencil gaps from 

2115
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:08,500
Top Dead Center. 
Imagine now, your pencil is the 

2116
01:52:08,500 --> 01:52:10,300
size of a telephone pole. 
Sorry. 

2117
01:52:10,300 --> 01:52:12,500
I did not time this correctly, 
right? 

2118
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:15,300
The farther your pencil. 
You can actually hold that 

2119
01:52:15,300 --> 01:52:17,900
steady with In your hand, if 
you're at the top of it, you 

2120
01:52:17,900 --> 01:52:21,300
could hold that telephone pole 
with a pencil point on it. 

2121
01:52:21,500 --> 01:52:23,300
If you let it fall over, you're 
going to need some heavy 

2122
01:52:23,300 --> 01:52:27,400
equipment to pick it back up. 
So consider that just being the 

2123
01:52:27,900 --> 01:52:29,800
clarification. 
All right. 

2124
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:32,200
Next. 
We have his criticism of the 

2125
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:37,300
free market of ideas. 
He says one of the ideas that 

2126
01:52:37,300 --> 01:52:39,000
got me away from 
anarcho-capitalism. 

2127
01:52:40,100 --> 01:52:43,800
This isn't a video type of 
marketplace of ideas is the idea

2128
01:52:43,800 --> 01:52:47,700
that the principle that 
sovereignty Energy is conserved.

2129
01:52:47,700 --> 01:52:52,900
There's always someone in power 
has never really been violated 

2130
01:52:52,900 --> 01:52:54,300
thoughts on that. 
Yeah. 

2131
01:52:54,300 --> 01:52:56,900
I actually have a pretty good. 
There are a lot of thoughts on 

2132
01:52:56,900 --> 01:53:01,200
this actually. 
So first I would addressing his 

2133
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:04,800
free market of ideas criticism. 
I would agree that the Fremont 

2134
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,200
and I think most Libertarians 
and a would agree. 

2135
01:53:07,200 --> 01:53:08,900
The free market and ideas does 
not. 

2136
01:53:09,000 --> 01:53:13,700
We're not saying that the, the 
best idea wins, right? 

2137
01:53:13,900 --> 01:53:15,700
The most, we would say the most 
dominant. 

2138
01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:19,200
Dia would win in generally, the 
whole idea, the whole concept of

2139
01:53:19,200 --> 01:53:23,400
the free market of ideas is that
decentralized actors are going 

2140
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,800
to try different things. 
And when they fail, the costs 

2141
01:53:26,800 --> 01:53:30,300
are localized to them, mostly in
a, in a, in an actual free 

2142
01:53:30,300 --> 01:53:34,100
market there, the costs are 
localized to them mostly and we 

2143
01:53:34,100 --> 01:53:36,300
can learn from their mistakes. 
Right? 

2144
01:53:36,400 --> 01:53:39,100
So it's not to say that we're, 
if we thought a free market of 

2145
01:53:39,100 --> 01:53:42,300
ideas, met the best ideas win. 
We would think that 

2146
01:53:42,300 --> 01:53:44,500
libertarianism would be dominant
right now, right? 

2147
01:53:44,500 --> 01:53:45,800
The Paseo. 
That's not what we're saying. 

2148
01:53:47,500 --> 01:53:51,600
So down to his idea of that. 
So he's making an analogy here 

2149
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:53,700
with with physics. 
So the first law of 

2150
01:53:53,700 --> 01:53:56,300
thermodynamics is that is the 
comfort of conservation of 

2151
01:53:56,300 --> 01:53:58,000
energy, right? 
Energy is always just 

2152
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,500
transferred or it's conserved, 
sorry, and it never actually 

2153
01:54:01,500 --> 01:54:04,400
changes it. 
Never like just loot. 

2154
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:06,700
It's never gone. 
It's just transformed from one 

2155
01:54:06,700 --> 01:54:10,800
form to the other. 
So right here, he's talking 

2156
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,900
about like how Society, so if we
assume that, so what he means 

2157
01:54:13,900 --> 01:54:17,500
here, he what he's trying to 
imply here is At you can never 

2158
01:54:17,500 --> 01:54:20,800
get rid of the power structures 
of the society, you can only 

2159
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:24,400
transform them from one form to 
the other, and it's all its 

2160
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:28,400
constant. 
So, if we assume that the value,

2161
01:54:28,400 --> 01:54:32,400
the power of the value of power 
in a given, geographic area is 

2162
01:54:32,400 --> 01:54:37,800
like X, let's say right? 
Well, we can still have that 

2163
01:54:37,800 --> 01:54:41,200
does not preclude anarchism. 
So how this could work. 

2164
01:54:41,300 --> 01:54:44,700
Is that even if you assume that 
the power is conserved, you can 

2165
01:54:44,700 --> 01:54:48,000
divide that power. 
Our infinitely depending on like

2166
01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:49,800
the structure of the society 
itself. 

2167
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:51,900
So, an example about this, 
right? 

2168
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:57,000
Is if you, if I'm playing pool 
and itay t.i., You have the pool

2169
01:54:57,000 --> 01:55:02,000
cue and I hit the cue ball into 
a group of other balls on the 

2170
01:55:02,000 --> 01:55:05,200
table. 
I can the amount of power, the 

2171
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:08,200
amount of force. 
I used to shoot the cue ball 

2172
01:55:08,300 --> 01:55:11,200
into the other balls and if it 
hits them simultaneously, the 

2173
01:55:11,200 --> 01:55:13,300
power is the from the original 
Cube. 

2174
01:55:13,300 --> 01:55:17,300
All the momentum is dispersed. 
To the all the others, it's 

2175
01:55:17,300 --> 01:55:21,500
divided, right? 
So it's the fact that power in a

2176
01:55:21,500 --> 01:55:23,100
society. 
If he, if he believes that power

2177
01:55:23,100 --> 01:55:26,800
in this Society is conserve that
doesn't it all imply. 

2178
01:55:26,900 --> 01:55:30,300
Now in any form that it's going 
to be conserved in the form of a

2179
01:55:30,308 --> 01:55:32,500
state, right? 
So you can think about this in 

2180
01:55:32,500 --> 01:55:37,500
the ways of of so, I I'll 
explain a little about like 

2181
01:55:37,500 --> 01:55:39,400
whatever. 
So, theoretically in a 

2182
01:55:39,407 --> 01:55:42,200
decentralized society. 
What you want is a rhizome. 

2183
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:45,800
So rhizome is a like a root 
system. 

2184
01:55:45,900 --> 01:55:47,500
Mm of a plan of certain types of
plants. 

2185
01:55:47,500 --> 01:55:52,200
It's a horizontal root system 
where each and every single part

2186
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:53,700
of the root system can Branch 
off. 

2187
01:55:53,700 --> 01:55:56,900
And it's they connect to the 
different nodes on the system 

2188
01:55:56,900 --> 01:56:00,500
and what this means is 
ultimately you have a structure 

2189
01:56:00,500 --> 01:56:04,100
where there's no centralized 
structure to it. 

2190
01:56:04,100 --> 01:56:09,300
So you when there's no like 
place you can like, put Power or

2191
01:56:09,300 --> 01:56:12,000
put pressure on it, that would 
collapse the whole system. 

2192
01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:15,200
So this is the weakness of 
centralized systems that if you,

2193
01:56:15,200 --> 01:56:17,600
if you consider Of power in a 
centralized system. 

2194
01:56:17,900 --> 01:56:20,900
What you're going to do is 
you're going to make that you're

2195
01:56:20,900 --> 01:56:22,300
putting all your eggs in one 
basket. 

2196
01:56:22,300 --> 01:56:24,900
Essentially, and that's the 
point of attack in a 

2197
01:56:24,907 --> 01:56:27,900
decentralized system. 
Power is dispersed through all 

2198
01:56:27,900 --> 01:56:30,600
the different nodes and all the 
different connections people 

2199
01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:34,400
make and every node connect to 
any other noted any given time. 

2200
01:56:34,500 --> 01:56:38,600
So that is why a decentralized 
system can still concert. 

2201
01:56:38,600 --> 01:56:42,200
You can still conserve power 
essentially in a given society 

2202
01:56:42,400 --> 01:56:46,200
that you don't have to conserve 
it in a way where it's a Mystic 

2203
01:56:46,200 --> 01:56:51,300
state. 
Yep, this again comes from the 

2204
01:56:51,300 --> 01:56:55,400
concept of if we want this goal,
the good idea. 

2205
01:56:55,900 --> 01:57:00,600
Even if you disagree on what the
good ideas are, what process 

2206
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:02,500
would you want? 
Which set of rules? 

2207
01:57:02,500 --> 01:57:06,400
Would you want in a society to 
hopefully, get those best ideas?

2208
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:09,600
Would it be? 
Let's just compare monarchy to 

2209
01:57:09,700 --> 01:57:14,000
more of a free market and ideas.
So when he says something like 

2210
01:57:14,000 --> 01:57:16,000
well the average person who 
believes in democracy is 

2211
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:19,000
ignorant, so Taking away their 
Vote or their voice. 

2212
01:57:19,100 --> 01:57:22,300
It's not really that big. 
The problem is, you don't know 

2213
01:57:22,300 --> 01:57:25,400
who the people are in advance, 
just like in sales. 

2214
01:57:25,400 --> 01:57:27,900
You waste 80% of your time 
sometimes. 

2215
01:57:28,100 --> 01:57:30,600
So why did you waste the 80? 
And not just do the 20? 

2216
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:33,300
Well, at the time when you're 
starting, you don't know which 

2217
01:57:33,300 --> 01:57:36,000
20% of people you're going to 
hit with. 

2218
01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:39,100
So you don't know which ideas 
are going to be best. 

2219
01:57:39,200 --> 01:57:43,300
That's why you need to embrace 
the principle of free market in 

2220
01:57:43,300 --> 01:57:46,400
exchange of ideas, as opposed to
coercively funded 12. 

2221
01:57:47,000 --> 01:57:50,400
Increase the likelihood. 
You'll come across that good 

2222
01:57:50,400 --> 01:57:53,400
idea. 
He uses it sort of just pleases 

2223
01:57:53,400 --> 01:57:56,200
us to think that it's sort of 
like Bitcoin. 

2224
01:57:56,200 --> 01:57:59,900
No one's really in charge. 
Well, still, this would be his 

2225
01:57:59,900 --> 01:58:03,400
monarchy idea of Satoshi 
Nakamoto, whether that was one 

2226
01:58:03,400 --> 01:58:08,400
person or a team that would be 
the Monarch in the Monarch 

2227
01:58:08,400 --> 01:58:12,300
delegating power. 
And this power transforming just

2228
01:58:12,300 --> 01:58:15,000
like he says, FDR used to have a
lot of power. 

2229
01:58:15,000 --> 01:58:18,800
Now, the cathedral has the power
It can still change. 

2230
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:22,800
So the fact that it can change 
doesn't rule out that you could 

2231
01:58:22,800 --> 01:58:26,000
still have a system where people
don't recognize some people as 

2232
01:58:26,000 --> 01:58:29,500
having the right to violently 
dominate others and unilaterally

2233
01:58:29,700 --> 01:58:32,600
issue. 
Contracts, strongest ideas, 

2234
01:58:32,600 --> 01:58:35,400
verse darwinian ideal selection.
Yeah. 

2235
01:58:35,500 --> 01:58:38,300
Now that was just the general 
topic for this. 

2236
01:58:38,300 --> 01:58:40,100
He had mentioned that people 
don't want freedom. 

2237
01:58:40,100 --> 01:58:43,700
They just want power, and this 
excites there that their inner 

2238
01:58:43,900 --> 01:58:47,500
chimpanzee. 
Well, if people just Our make 

2239
01:58:47,500 --> 01:58:50,400
sure you don't have a monarch. 
We can't disassociate, right? 

2240
01:58:50,700 --> 01:58:52,200
I don't know. 
I don't know what else. 

2241
01:58:52,300 --> 01:58:55,100
It's also every shortcoming 
every shortcut. 

2242
01:58:55,200 --> 01:58:57,700
I'm sorry to interrupt you, but 
no, no, my find your, my point 

2243
01:58:57,700 --> 01:59:00,900
is every shortcoming in this 
free market of ideas. 

2244
01:59:00,900 --> 01:59:02,000
Yeah. 
There's going to be a ton of 

2245
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:04,200
garbage. 
Well, there's also a ton of 

2246
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:06,700
garbage when the monarchs are 
calling the shots. 

2247
01:59:06,700 --> 01:59:10,900
So that's, that's not enough of 
a criticism to rule out giving 

2248
01:59:10,900 --> 01:59:15,000
people what Kant would call 
treating them as an end in and 

2249
01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:16,800
of themselves. 
Yes. 

2250
01:59:16,900 --> 01:59:21,200
Yes, yeah, most ideas are trash.
She says, which I agree with. 

2251
01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:25,200
You could, but Malla says 99% of
everything is trash. 

2252
01:59:25,200 --> 01:59:28,200
Podcasts. 
Movies shows authors, leaders 

2253
01:59:28,400 --> 01:59:30,700
journalists actors, voters, 
politicians. 

2254
01:59:30,800 --> 01:59:34,000
Most your trash. 
It's that 1% and the marketplace

2255
01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:37,300
of ideas process just like the 
sales analogy that I use. 

2256
01:59:37,400 --> 01:59:42,700
That's how you find that better.
1% thoughts on most ideas are 

2257
01:59:42,700 --> 01:59:45,200
trash. 
Therefore, monarchy of ideas is 

2258
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:48,700
superior to a Marketplace. 
Yeah, so it's like you can 

2259
01:59:48,700 --> 01:59:51,600
agree, most ideas or trash but 
the reason we kind of know most 

2260
01:59:51,600 --> 01:59:54,000
ideas or trash is because we've 
gone through the marketplace of 

2261
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:57,000
ideas in the first place to 
determine which way in which 

2262
01:59:57,000 --> 02:00:01,300
things like like serve a utility
function in which do not write. 

2263
02:00:01,300 --> 02:00:04,500
So it's because we are 
knowledgeable about this. 

2264
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:09,300
So his whole, the whole critique
implies, the existence of the 

2265
02:00:09,300 --> 02:00:11,700
marketplace of ideas working in 
the first place, right? 

2266
02:00:11,700 --> 02:00:13,400
So, I think it's kind of a weird
critique. 

2267
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:16,800
It's ignoring the system. 
He's building his premises. 

2268
02:00:16,900 --> 02:00:22,700
Off of he says the system 
purports to yield good ideas. 

2269
02:00:22,900 --> 02:00:25,500
Does it? 
I don't think I've want to see 

2270
02:00:25,500 --> 02:00:28,600
if that I was going to say is 
that that's his premise before 

2271
02:00:28,600 --> 02:00:32,100
its conclusion is that premise 
even true. 

2272
02:00:32,200 --> 02:00:34,600
Good ideas. 
No better than the alternative 

2273
02:00:34,600 --> 02:00:36,600
and still morally Justified. 
Yes. 

2274
02:00:37,400 --> 02:00:39,200
Why I think it when he said 
about Marketplace of ideas. 

2275
02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:41,400
Like he says it, purports yield 
good ideas. 

2276
02:00:41,700 --> 02:00:45,800
Well, in some sense, I would 
disagree that it purports to 

2277
02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:49,100
healed good ideas. 
It's just it's just a way of 

2278
02:00:49,100 --> 02:00:53,000
people trying to like discover. 
Like which ideas would serve my 

2279
02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:55,400
personal utility. 
Do you know what I mean? 

2280
02:00:55,600 --> 02:00:58,900
And so it's not even best in 
like a moral good sense. 

2281
02:00:58,900 --> 02:01:01,700
It's just trying to see okay 
from a market incentive from 

2282
02:01:01,700 --> 02:01:03,500
one, just a purely Market 
incentive. 

2283
02:01:03,500 --> 02:01:06,900
What ideas don't like blow up in
my face that type of stuff. 

2284
02:01:08,000 --> 02:01:11,700
Yes, and then he goes on to say,
the question is, can it be 

2285
02:01:11,700 --> 02:01:13,900
hacked? 
So, in other words, which 

2286
02:01:13,900 --> 02:01:17,700
claimed to have the system, but 
if it could be hacked by, you 

2287
02:01:17,708 --> 02:01:20,500
know, journalists or Liars or 
self-interested people. 

2288
02:01:20,700 --> 02:01:22,000
Well, then we don't have the 
system. 

2289
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,800
We thought we had and therefore,
we're not really advocating what

2290
02:01:24,800 --> 02:01:25,900
we think. 
We're advocating. 

2291
02:01:26,200 --> 02:01:27,800
Yes. 
It can be hacked. 

2292
02:01:27,800 --> 02:01:31,000
Technically with good ideas, or 
bad ideas, or overrun by good 

2293
02:01:31,000 --> 02:01:33,400
people, or bad people. 
Yeah, just like, monarchy cam. 

2294
02:01:33,400 --> 02:01:37,600
This is not a criticism of 
allowing people to talk free. 

2295
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:41,600
Yeah, you could have a bad 
Monarch and now it is pretty, 

2296
02:01:41,700 --> 02:01:43,300
right. 
You could have any sort or you 

2297
02:01:43,300 --> 02:01:45,700
could have a monarch who was 
influenced by bad people. 

2298
02:01:45,900 --> 02:01:49,700
So it's just the, his criticism,
like, boomerangs back, right. 

2299
02:01:49,700 --> 02:01:52,300
Back at him on his idea. 
Well, that's not true. 

2300
02:01:52,300 --> 02:01:55,100
You can't have a bad Monarch, 
take that with Edie, take it 

2301
02:01:55,100 --> 02:01:55,900
back. 
That's right. 

2302
02:01:56,200 --> 02:01:58,900
That people only only exist in 
the voluntary sector, right? 

2303
02:01:59,000 --> 02:02:03,200
And you can go to someone else 
or or seek Alternatives. 

2304
02:02:03,600 --> 02:02:05,800
He says that there's a problem 
with modern society. 

2305
02:02:06,100 --> 02:02:09,300
People are unwilling to serve. 
Of a master like we need a 

2306
02:02:09,308 --> 02:02:12,400
monarch, but they are willing to
serve a mechanism. 

2307
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:16,100
Now this I think is a very 
productive idea that people 

2308
02:02:16,100 --> 02:02:20,600
might I guess we should just 
talk about Americans because 

2309
02:02:20,600 --> 02:02:21,700
that's probably what he's 
referring to. 

2310
02:02:22,100 --> 02:02:25,100
If you say to the average 
person, you need someone like 

2311
02:02:25,100 --> 02:02:27,800
Bill Mitchell. 
Mind control level to say that, 

2312
02:02:27,800 --> 02:02:30,800
which is Justified. 
As that, which Trump does you 

2313
02:02:30,800 --> 02:02:32,800
really have to go search far and
wide? 

2314
02:02:33,100 --> 02:02:37,600
The average person would I don't
think would say, Biden has the 

2315
02:02:37,800 --> 02:02:39,400
Hiromi Trump has the right to 
roll me. 

2316
02:02:39,500 --> 02:02:43,300
They say it's this mechanism 
called democracy where the 

2317
02:02:43,300 --> 02:02:45,500
president sets, that's where the
right to rule is. 

2318
02:02:45,800 --> 02:02:51,200
So I think this is a good point 
that he makes you see this as a 

2319
02:02:51,200 --> 02:02:53,600
problem or what are your 
takeaways on this? 

2320
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:55,300
I think it's I do I agree with 
you. 

2321
02:02:55,308 --> 02:02:58,000
I think it's a good analysis 
because I do think he is. 

2322
02:02:58,000 --> 02:03:00,600
It's impersonal. 
If people feel they're being 

2323
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:03,800
ruled by a mechanism or stair 
serving a mechanism as opposed 

2324
02:03:03,800 --> 02:03:07,800
to a person there's less 
emotional tie or there's less A 

2325
02:03:08,400 --> 02:03:11,400
feeling of another person, 
encroaching upon you, right? 

2326
02:03:11,400 --> 02:03:14,900
It's like, well, we're just a 
part of the system and when I 

2327
02:03:14,900 --> 02:03:17,900
get, when my taxes get taken 
from me or something, that's 

2328
02:03:17,900 --> 02:03:20,600
just the system working. 
It's not this guy holding me up 

2329
02:03:20,600 --> 02:03:22,600
in a back alley. 
Robbing my money. 

2330
02:03:23,500 --> 02:03:24,500
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

2331
02:03:24,500 --> 02:03:29,100
I think it's a good point. 
Not sure how it refutes our 

2332
02:03:29,100 --> 02:03:31,000
position. 
But he says, people have a 

2333
02:03:31,000 --> 02:03:34,200
luciferian idea. 
Since they were 4 years old. 

2334
02:03:34,300 --> 02:03:35,600
They were told that they are 
perfect. 

2335
02:03:35,600 --> 02:03:38,100
They are the king. 
You're a free, man, you Deserve 

2336
02:03:38,100 --> 02:03:39,900
to serve anyone. 
You don't have to serve anyone. 

2337
02:03:40,200 --> 02:03:41,500
I don't even know if that's 
true. 

2338
02:03:41,500 --> 02:03:43,300
Because I remember I don't think
young kid. 

2339
02:03:43,500 --> 02:03:47,500
You have to obey your elders and
you have to obey your parents 

2340
02:03:47,600 --> 02:03:50,900
and you get spanked if you don't
or you get yelled at or you're a

2341
02:03:50,907 --> 02:03:56,200
bad kid or you get grounded or 
you have to obey the teacher so 

2342
02:03:56,200 --> 02:03:59,700
you can get the good grades. 
I don't see this and this but 

2343
02:03:59,700 --> 02:04:02,500
but of course we've gone from 
children to luciferian. 

2344
02:04:02,500 --> 02:04:07,400
So maybe that's an increase in 
the last hour or so, right? 

2345
02:04:07,900 --> 02:04:11,000
And this statement invite him is
one of the most odd to me 

2346
02:04:11,000 --> 02:04:16,900
because it's just, I think 
undeniably untrue like people 

2347
02:04:16,900 --> 02:04:19,900
grow up and they are in. 
They grow up in an incredibly 

2348
02:04:19,900 --> 02:04:22,500
structured way. 
Like from there, for years old 

2349
02:04:22,500 --> 02:04:24,800
on like you're going to 
kindergarten, you're going to 

2350
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:26,600
school. 
And the first thing you learn in

2351
02:04:26,600 --> 02:04:29,300
school is submission to 
Authority, right? 

2352
02:04:30,400 --> 02:04:37,200
So like kids are given like 
psychedelic they're assessed 

2353
02:04:37,200 --> 02:04:39,200
with psycho. 
Logical disorders when they're 

2354
02:04:39,200 --> 02:04:43,100
not able to respect the 
authority of teachers and their 

2355
02:04:43,100 --> 02:04:46,000
given drugs, right? 
To make them more susceptible to

2356
02:04:46,400 --> 02:04:49,000
just following what is following
the structure of the school 

2357
02:04:49,000 --> 02:04:50,600
itself. 
So, yeah, I think this is 

2358
02:04:50,600 --> 02:04:52,800
completely backwards. 
People are told from a very 

2359
02:04:52,800 --> 02:04:55,800
young age and one they had 
follow this, the school, they 

2360
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:59,000
have to listen to the teacher 
and not only that, they also 

2361
02:04:59,000 --> 02:05:02,300
told through their school years,
that you're a part of this 

2362
02:05:02,300 --> 02:05:06,000
system that we call Democracy in
America, and it's your job to 

2363
02:05:06,000 --> 02:05:09,300
imagine yourself as a little 
Tyrant and imagine yourself. 

2364
02:05:09,300 --> 02:05:12,200
Okay. 
He what is, what do I want? 

2365
02:05:12,200 --> 02:05:16,700
And what how, like, let me put a
vote in to get what I want even 

2366
02:05:16,700 --> 02:05:19,400
if it's going to involve other 
people losing, right? 

2367
02:05:19,500 --> 02:05:21,600
So that's how they're taught to 
think about the system in the 

2368
02:05:21,600 --> 02:05:24,000
first place. 
So, we open statement here. 

2369
02:05:24,000 --> 02:05:26,100
I don't even understand how he 
could think that's quite 

2370
02:05:26,100 --> 02:05:29,900
honestly, I don't see, like, I'm
not seeing the point. 

2371
02:05:30,400 --> 02:05:34,100
So I guess luciferian in the 
sense of yeah, you are a God. 

2372
02:05:34,100 --> 02:05:37,600
You are the light bearer. 
You are the liberty, and 

2373
02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:41,000
Lightened and you are 
enlightened therefore entitled 

2374
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:43,100
to more than what you actually 
are. 

2375
02:05:43,800 --> 02:05:48,400
Doesn't that sound exactly? 
Like monarchy the luciferian 

2376
02:05:48,400 --> 02:05:50,000
idea that, you know, other 
people matter. 

2377
02:05:50,000 --> 02:05:52,700
I'm the ruler here. 
I call the shots screw everyone 

2378
02:05:52,700 --> 02:05:55,000
else. 
I don't I'm not humble enough to

2379
02:05:55,000 --> 02:05:57,900
let people disassociate from me.
That's how smart I am. 

2380
02:05:57,900 --> 02:06:00,100
That's how valuable I am to 
everyone else. 

2381
02:06:00,100 --> 02:06:02,100
I'm so enlightened. 
I'm so brilliant. 

2382
02:06:02,100 --> 02:06:05,000
My ideas, get to be forced on 
others when people do it to me. 

2383
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:07,600
It's evil terrorism and they go 
to jail when I do it, too. 

2384
02:06:07,700 --> 02:06:09,500
Others. 
I'm engaged in a low time 

2385
02:06:09,500 --> 02:06:12,100
preference. 
He then he finishes by saying 

2386
02:06:12,900 --> 02:06:15,400
there's an old Prussian saying 
that people need to appreciate 

2387
02:06:15,800 --> 02:06:19,300
that as those who wish to 
command must first learn to 

2388
02:06:19,300 --> 02:06:21,600
obey. 
So in other words the an caps 

2389
02:06:21,600 --> 02:06:26,400
going around telling people the 
rights of the right way to live 

2390
02:06:26,400 --> 02:06:29,400
as self-ownership voluntary 
exchange. 

2391
02:06:29,400 --> 02:06:31,800
Well, they're trying to call the
shots and Society. 

2392
02:06:31,800 --> 02:06:35,400
You first have to learn to obey 
don't be afraid to obey people. 

2393
02:06:35,900 --> 02:06:39,900
The reason this pisses me off. 
It's because again, he has to 

2394
02:06:39,900 --> 02:06:43,900
frickin know as someone who's 
right rothbard conceived in 

2395
02:06:43,900 --> 02:06:45,700
Liberty. 
That's not. 

2396
02:06:45,900 --> 02:06:47,600
That's more than anatomy in the 
state. 

2397
02:06:47,600 --> 02:06:52,100
That's dedication. 
Yeah, you have to know that my 

2398
02:06:52,100 --> 02:06:55,900
hatred of one group called The 
Congress group, or the cops 

2399
02:06:55,900 --> 02:06:58,400
group will talk about being four
years old. 

2400
02:06:58,400 --> 02:07:00,800
You have to blindly obey the 
cops and do what you're told by 

2401
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:05,100
them. 
But if, if I don't like this 

2402
02:07:05,100 --> 02:07:08,900
group called Walmart, or Has on 
or government. 

2403
02:07:08,900 --> 02:07:10,800
That doesn't mean I'm against 
obeying. 

2404
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,500
Anyone or taking any 
Commandments. 

2405
02:07:13,800 --> 02:07:17,500
I mean, it must like it would 
probably shocked him if he 

2406
02:07:17,500 --> 02:07:21,700
really believes this to see that
I have references from from 

2407
02:07:21,700 --> 02:07:25,200
previous employers because we 
just hate obeying and we just 

2408
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:28,300
want to be Lucifer doing our own
thing everywhere. 

2409
02:07:28,700 --> 02:07:30,700
That's not the case at all. 
Just because I hate this group. 

2410
02:07:31,000 --> 02:07:34,200
You don't want to blindly obey 
the Church of Scientology. 

2411
02:07:34,200 --> 02:07:37,000
What will let me tell you, 
Curtis those who wish to 

2412
02:07:37,000 --> 02:07:39,100
command? 
First learn to obey. 

2413
02:07:39,300 --> 02:07:41,900
So, I hate this group and I like
other groups. 

2414
02:07:42,100 --> 02:07:45,100
It's not against obeying or 
following rules. 

2415
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:47,000
Right? 
It's this group a mass, murderer

2416
02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:50,100
and Liars. 
You don't obey the New York 

2417
02:07:50,100 --> 02:07:52,100
Times. 
Well, if you wish to command, 

2418
02:07:52,100 --> 02:07:55,400
you must first, learn it, this 
is so ridiculous. 

2419
02:07:55,400 --> 02:07:59,500
You know, Roderick long says 
that I think he's 78 summarizes 

2420
02:07:59,500 --> 02:08:02,300
anarchism beautifully, which he 
says anarchism is set is 

2421
02:08:02,300 --> 02:08:04,800
essentially the idea that other 
people are not your property and

2422
02:08:04,808 --> 02:08:07,000
you're not allowed to treat them
as your property, right? 

2423
02:08:07,000 --> 02:08:10,700
So So, the whole idea of him of 
this saying, like, well, we're 

2424
02:08:10,700 --> 02:08:14,300
just trying to, you know, we 
just want to be king. 

2425
02:08:14,300 --> 02:08:15,900
We just want to do whatever we 
want. 

2426
02:08:15,900 --> 02:08:18,900
No matter the cost is like, no, 
the whole point of why I'm an 

2427
02:08:18,900 --> 02:08:21,300
anarchist is, I believe other 
people have boundaries that I'm 

2428
02:08:21,300 --> 02:08:24,000
not allowed to encroach on and 
you're not allowed to encroach 

2429
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:27,300
on them either, right? 
So the idea is that every like 

2430
02:08:27,600 --> 02:08:30,200
if we were just a king, we 
wouldn't care about other 

2431
02:08:30,200 --> 02:08:32,700
people's boundaries. 
If we were really a monarchist, 

2432
02:08:32,700 --> 02:08:36,000
we would not care about the, you
know, the subjects boundaries. 

2433
02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:40,800
Great points and you have a 
final thing on the marketplace 

2434
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:42,900
of ideas. 
I think what he might be hearing

2435
02:08:43,100 --> 02:08:46,300
when people like Dave Rubin say 
it is that every idea is equal 

2436
02:08:46,500 --> 02:08:49,000
and should be equally heard is 
that is not at all. 

2437
02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:53,100
Like like I support a 
Marketplace in well ideas, I 

2438
02:08:53,100 --> 02:08:56,200
guess is what we're saying, but 
I believe in a Marketplace of 

2439
02:08:56,200 --> 02:08:58,900
communication, which means 
Curtis Jarvan. 

2440
02:08:59,000 --> 02:09:02,000
Gets a lot more views on YouTube
videos. 

2441
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:03,300
When he doesn't even have a 
channel. 

2442
02:09:03,300 --> 02:09:04,900
It's other people uploading is 
stuff. 

2443
02:09:05,100 --> 02:09:08,000
He has a lot more. 
Than probably I could ever dream

2444
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:13,400
of his sub, stack readers, and 
his, what was his first blog 

2445
02:09:13,400 --> 02:09:17,600
called o on my dresser. 
My reservations that has more 

2446
02:09:17,600 --> 02:09:20,600
readers than I'm ever going to 
have and there's nothing wrong 

2447
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:22,900
with that. 
That's still a marketplace where

2448
02:09:22,900 --> 02:09:25,400
people with a lot more 
intelligence, who went to Brown,

2449
02:09:25,400 --> 02:09:30,200
should probably have a bigger 
than someone like me. 

2450
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:36,100
So that is not in any way, a 
refutation of, you know, the 

2451
02:09:36,500 --> 02:09:42,700
Marketplace of ideas. 
He goes on to say in why 

2452
02:09:42,700 --> 02:09:46,800
Libertarians should be 
monarchists Libertarians, really

2453
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:50,500
think they have a solution of 
you know, who will watch The 

2454
02:09:50,500 --> 02:09:52,200
Watchmen, right? 
And they're like, we don't need 

2455
02:09:52,200 --> 02:09:54,000
any Watchman. 
It's completely automatically. 

2456
02:09:54,300 --> 02:09:57,000
We just flip a switch. 
How do you respond? 

2457
02:09:57,700 --> 02:10:01,000
I just I don't know where he is.
What Libertarians? 

2458
02:10:01,000 --> 02:10:02,900
He's reading or where he's 
getting that from. 

2459
02:10:02,900 --> 02:10:06,000
I've never known a Libertarian 
to just assume that. 

2460
02:10:06,000 --> 02:10:08,000
Well, this is just it's an 
automatic system. 

2461
02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:09,400
We're just going to flip a 
switch. 

2462
02:10:09,600 --> 02:10:13,300
And directly to his point about.
Well, we think we've solved who 

2463
02:10:13,300 --> 02:10:16,200
watches the Watchmen, the point 
of that is that there's no good.

2464
02:10:16,200 --> 02:10:18,800
Answer to that question, right? 
That's implicit in the who 

2465
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:21,300
watches the Watchmen. 
The implicit nature is that 

2466
02:10:21,300 --> 02:10:22,800
there's no perfect answer, 
right? 

2467
02:10:22,800 --> 02:10:26,100
We it's in some sense, an 
infinite read and inescapable 

2468
02:10:26,100 --> 02:10:29,400
infinite regress, but because 
it's an inescapable infinite 

2469
02:10:29,400 --> 02:10:32,000
regress. 
The what you want is as many 

2470
02:10:32,000 --> 02:10:35,000
Watchman as possible watching 
each other, and that's what you 

2471
02:10:35,000 --> 02:10:37,800
get with decentralisation. 
You have infinite. 

2472
02:10:37,800 --> 02:10:43,100
You have a System where everyone
is going to be responsive in 

2473
02:10:43,100 --> 02:10:45,900
some sense just to because of 
the way markets work and the way

2474
02:10:45,900 --> 02:10:48,500
information travels, you're 
going to be responsive to 

2475
02:10:48,800 --> 02:10:51,700
informational changes in the 
market depending on people's 

2476
02:10:51,700 --> 02:10:54,000
actions. 
So it's true that someone like, 

2477
02:10:54,000 --> 02:10:57,100
we're not saying that once we 
just get to like a decentralized

2478
02:10:57,100 --> 02:10:59,700
Anarchist Society or something. 
There's, we're not saying that 

2479
02:10:59,700 --> 02:11:01,300
well, it's just all going to be 
perfect. 

2480
02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:03,700
The point is that it? 
No, there will be problems. 

2481
02:11:03,700 --> 02:11:05,600
Of course, they'll be problems. 
Is that there weren't problems. 

2482
02:11:05,600 --> 02:11:07,900
If it was just automatic. 
We wouldn't spend so much time 

2483
02:11:07,900 --> 02:11:10,600
talking about court systems at 
Ready and all this, right? 

2484
02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:13,500
So obviously we're accounting 
for the fact that there will be 

2485
02:11:13,500 --> 02:11:17,500
problems. 
So watch it note for the watch. 

2486
02:11:17,500 --> 02:11:20,000
We don't need any watch up. 
No, we do need Watchman. 

2487
02:11:20,000 --> 02:11:22,200
We need a lot of them. 
In fact, we need a market full 

2488
02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:24,700
of them watching each other, 
right? 

2489
02:11:24,700 --> 02:11:26,200
That's the best way to secure 
it. 

2490
02:11:26,300 --> 02:11:29,100
Is it foolproof know? 
There's obviously there's no way

2491
02:11:29,100 --> 02:11:32,800
to escape the who watches the 
Watchmen answer sufficiently. 

2492
02:11:32,900 --> 02:11:35,900
So what you want is as many as 
possible watching each other. 

2493
02:11:37,500 --> 02:11:40,700
Yeah, I've not only never heard.
We don't need any Watchman. 

2494
02:11:41,200 --> 02:11:44,900
I I haven't even heard anything 
remotely like this in all the 

2495
02:11:44,900 --> 02:11:50,000
years that I've been in and cap.
I guess when he says something 

2496
02:11:50,000 --> 02:11:51,100
automatic. 
It's much. 

2497
02:11:51,100 --> 02:11:53,300
Like he said, previously passive
action. 

2498
02:11:53,300 --> 02:11:58,100
Yeah, I don't know, none of them
support that either automatic. 

2499
02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:01,300
They don't say nothing needs to 
happen which act to be fair. 

2500
02:12:01,500 --> 02:12:05,400
If people, when they say 
spontaneous order, a lot of new 

2501
02:12:05,500 --> 02:12:08,300
Libertarians have only read. 
R.I.P. 

2502
02:12:08,300 --> 02:12:10,100
To their brains few only read. 
Hi. 

2503
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:15,200
They might literally be saying 
no one needs to do something. 

2504
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:17,100
The market takes care of itself.
Yes. 

2505
02:12:17,100 --> 02:12:19,400
I actually think our Bill 
O'Reilly say that but that's 

2506
02:12:19,400 --> 02:12:22,600
classic simpleton nonsense in 
the same way. 

2507
02:12:22,600 --> 02:12:26,300
I'd never go up to a random 
monarchist and try to, you know,

2508
02:12:26,300 --> 02:12:29,600
refute them with a Sarkis for 
two hours. 

2509
02:12:30,000 --> 02:12:31,700
I try to take the best of the 
best. 

2510
02:12:31,700 --> 02:12:35,100
So if he could not strawman us, 
that that would be nice when it 

2511
02:12:35,100 --> 02:12:40,000
comes to the Watchman. 
My position, my understanding of

2512
02:12:40,200 --> 02:12:43,600
the and cap position has always 
been Watchman exists. 

2513
02:12:43,600 --> 02:12:47,300
Whether you think of Watchman is
a bad actor or just a powerful 

2514
02:12:47,400 --> 02:12:52,200
person, Watchman always exist. 
So recognizing that reality 

2515
02:12:52,500 --> 02:12:57,800
under which system can Society 
get the most benefits out of the

2516
02:12:57,800 --> 02:13:01,700
Watchman and which society or 
set of rules gives us a 

2517
02:13:01,700 --> 02:13:07,200
correcting mechanism to best 
limit the - reach of Bad 

2518
02:13:07,200 --> 02:13:09,800
Watchman like Kissinger or 
persons gear, Madeleine 

2519
02:13:09,800 --> 02:13:15,100
Albright, so we don't need any, 
I don't believe that. 

2520
02:13:15,100 --> 02:13:19,500
And I've yet to meet anyone who 
who write believe. 

2521
02:13:19,500 --> 02:13:21,500
I mean, you can structure it. 
Like, you know, there's this 

2522
02:13:21,500 --> 02:13:24,600
concept of like the prison 
started like a panopticon where 

2523
02:13:24,600 --> 02:13:27,600
you have all the prisoners can 
see each other and the Watchman 

2524
02:13:27,600 --> 02:13:29,500
that the top, can see all the 
prisoners, but none of the 

2525
02:13:29,508 --> 02:13:33,400
prisoners can see the Watchman. 
So that is analogous to a state.

2526
02:13:33,400 --> 02:13:36,700
What you would have with a state
with a decentralized system. 

2527
02:13:36,800 --> 02:13:40,000
Mm, you have it where it's like,
it's kind of like a spider web 

2528
02:13:40,000 --> 02:13:41,700
or nodes on a decentralized 
point. 

2529
02:13:41,700 --> 02:13:44,700
Everyone can see everyone else 
in most cases. 

2530
02:13:44,900 --> 02:13:47,900
So the decentralized system has 
obvious advantages in my view. 

2531
02:13:48,600 --> 02:13:52,100
Yeah. 
And Monopoly Watchmen, which a 

2532
02:13:52,100 --> 02:13:56,300
monarchist would Advocate. 
You could sell other technical 

2533
02:13:56,300 --> 02:13:59,700
Watchman, but the Monarch by 
definition has to have rules 

2534
02:13:59,700 --> 02:14:00,300
that? 
Apply to? 

2535
02:14:00,300 --> 02:14:04,600
What uniquely all of the 
shortcomings of? 

2536
02:14:04,600 --> 02:14:10,000
Well, the average the Non-state 
actor might do this terrible 

2537
02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:14,600
thing again, all of those biases
just like when they say well we 

2538
02:14:14,600 --> 02:14:19,400
need social media regulated or 
we need the market regulated so 

2539
02:14:19,400 --> 02:14:21,000
bad ideas. 
Don't get out or something like 

2540
02:14:21,000 --> 02:14:23,800
that. 
Every criticism of the average 

2541
02:14:23,800 --> 02:14:26,300
person applies. 
Not only to the Watchman there 

2542
02:14:26,300 --> 02:14:29,200
just as bias there just as 
self-interested regardless of 

2543
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:32,300
what they say, but that's like 
level one. 

2544
02:14:32,300 --> 02:14:36,300
That's if we randomly 
distributed government titles. 

2545
02:14:36,700 --> 02:14:40,300
Who gets attracted to that? 
Kind of position people like, 

2546
02:14:40,300 --> 02:14:43,700
Larry Summers, just explicit 
Liars, president of Harvard, 

2547
02:14:44,100 --> 02:14:49,000
Secretary of the Treasury under 
Clinton, people like Kamala 

2548
02:14:49,000 --> 02:14:52,800
Harris, who think it's like 
really funny to be on a debate 

2549
02:14:52,800 --> 02:14:57,500
stage and say Joe Biden use of 
were opposed to bussing. 

2550
02:14:57,500 --> 02:15:00,400
And this is terrible and racist,
and then, Stephen, Colbert, ask,

2551
02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:03,100
sir, how can you be vice 
president to someone you had 

2552
02:15:03,100 --> 02:15:04,700
such blatant? 
Disagreements with. 

2553
02:15:05,000 --> 02:15:09,300
And she starts cackling for a 
Change and says it was a debate.

2554
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:13,400
It was in the tired of debates. 
That's what we're doing there. 

2555
02:15:13,700 --> 02:15:16,900
Like they just explicitly lie so
much. 

2556
02:15:16,900 --> 02:15:20,300
That's who's attracted to that 
kind of position. 

2557
02:15:20,300 --> 02:15:23,900
That's why monarchy Watchman is 
worse than free-market Watchman.

2558
02:15:24,300 --> 02:15:26,300
That's right. 
Yeah, you what you don't want is

2559
02:15:26,300 --> 02:15:29,100
a like, in some sense people 
talk about, like time 

2560
02:15:29,100 --> 02:15:31,200
preferences that will you want 
to lower time preference? 

2561
02:15:31,200 --> 02:15:33,000
So it's like, yeah, in some 
sense. 

2562
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:35,000
That's what you want to lower 
time, preference in the 

2563
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:37,800
production of goods, but Lower 
time, preference in the 

2564
02:15:37,800 --> 02:15:40,800
production of bats can also be 
just, as bad is like, you know, 

2565
02:15:40,800 --> 02:15:44,400
erratic bad behavior. 
So, you just have to kind of, 

2566
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:46,300
make sure you're separating 
those two things. 

2567
02:15:47,200 --> 02:15:50,700
And again, the Austrian would 
say, sometimes you want low. 

2568
02:15:50,700 --> 02:15:53,300
Sometimes you want high. 
So, the best way to find that 

2569
02:15:53,300 --> 02:15:56,800
equilibrium is the market 
process instead of the political

2570
02:15:56,800 --> 02:16:01,400
process where people more or 
less pay no penalty for bad 

2571
02:16:01,400 --> 02:16:03,600
decisions. 
In fact, they often get rewarded

2572
02:16:03,600 --> 02:16:07,900
9/11 happens on Bush's. 
Watch and Is his approval goes 

2573
02:16:07,900 --> 02:16:12,000
to 91%, I mean, just so 
ridiculous. 

2574
02:16:13,700 --> 02:16:17,400
Jarvan continues the idea that 
you could build a system without

2575
02:16:17,400 --> 02:16:21,300
any sort of that would just run 
by itself. 

2576
02:16:21,300 --> 02:16:25,200
But of course, when we actually 
see it, it doesn't seem to 

2577
02:16:25,200 --> 02:16:29,000
really work like that. 
How do you respond to that II? 

2578
02:16:29,000 --> 02:16:32,600
Just it's an OnPoint to me. 
It's like it's not actually 

2579
02:16:32,600 --> 02:16:34,500
addressing what libertarian 
least Libertarians. 

2580
02:16:34,500 --> 02:16:36,600
I've been reading for 10 years. 
It's not a dress. 

2581
02:16:36,700 --> 02:16:38,700
Missing anything they've ever 
said. 

2582
02:16:39,400 --> 02:16:42,400
It's like, it's hard for me to 
address the point. 

2583
02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:45,700
I don't told myself because I 
don't think that it can just run

2584
02:16:45,700 --> 02:16:49,299
by itself as if it's just. 
So it's like I don't even know 

2585
02:16:49,299 --> 02:16:51,600
what that would mean a system 
running by itself. 

2586
02:16:51,700 --> 02:16:55,799
Like you always need some input 
from people to get some output. 

2587
02:16:56,400 --> 02:17:01,200
So yeah, it's like yeah, I don't
know how much more I can say 

2588
02:17:01,200 --> 02:17:02,600
about that than what I've 
already said. 

2589
02:17:02,600 --> 02:17:06,000
I just do, I think he's just 
incorrect here on the most basic

2590
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:11,900
level, any I'm an employee makes
a decision to get a raise, try 

2591
02:17:11,900 --> 02:17:14,299
to get more training, look for a
different job. 

2592
02:17:14,500 --> 02:17:19,799
That is a person acting and 
trying to change the system. 

2593
02:17:19,799 --> 02:17:21,900
The system, not just running by 
itself, where people are 

2594
02:17:21,900 --> 02:17:24,000
passive. 
And then the biggest one, which 

2595
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:26,500
you mentioned previously. 
Any entrepreneur gauging in 

2596
02:17:26,500 --> 02:17:30,100
postponing consumption and 
capital investment is an actor, 

2597
02:17:30,100 --> 02:17:33,299
but he's, it's literally seems 
like he's saying if there's no 

2598
02:17:33,299 --> 02:17:36,200
violence if there's no State, 
then people aren't acting. 

2599
02:17:36,400 --> 02:17:39,500
So, No, violence equals. 
No actors, but that's not the 

2600
02:17:39,500 --> 02:17:43,000
case at all. 
People acting in the realm of 

2601
02:17:44,100 --> 02:17:48,900
voluntary, contracts, and 
harmonious associations. 

2602
02:17:49,400 --> 02:17:54,000
So this is just not what we're 
talking about. 

2603
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:58,200
He then goes on to say, since 
you can't dispense with power, 

2604
02:17:58,700 --> 02:18:03,000
how should power actually work? 
And you basically get outside 

2605
02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:06,200
the libertarian regime and then 
you're like, oh, the libertarian

2606
02:18:06,200 --> 02:18:09,200
regime. 
Is just a special case of when 

2607
02:18:09,200 --> 02:18:13,500
this is going really well and it
is an EFT up and everything is 

2608
02:18:13,500 --> 02:18:15,600
working fine. 
You don't get that telephone 

2609
02:18:15,600 --> 02:18:18,200
pole lift it up by taking your 
hand off it. 

2610
02:18:18,200 --> 02:18:21,100
So we're back to the pencil 
analogy. 

2611
02:18:22,100 --> 02:18:26,100
Yeah, I again, I think this is 
just an equivocation again. 

2612
02:18:26,299 --> 02:18:29,299
Like, I think that's been the 
constant throughout all this 

2613
02:18:29,299 --> 02:18:33,000
whenever your oven or some 
people sometimes people in 

2614
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:34,900
yahrens. 
Footsteps mentioned power. 

2615
02:18:35,799 --> 02:18:38,600
I just see it as a quote in 
equivocation because libertarian

2616
02:18:38,600 --> 02:18:42,000
position is not, we are against 
Power, because if you define 

2617
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:46,100
power in a very general sense, 
my ability to exert myself on my

2618
02:18:46,100 --> 02:18:49,600
external environment requires 
power, my ability to defend my 

2619
02:18:49,600 --> 02:18:54,299
rights requires power. 
I am exerting Power by speaking.

2620
02:18:54,299 --> 02:18:58,799
I'm exerting Power by it in, 
like incorporating the external 

2621
02:18:58,799 --> 02:19:01,900
resources of this world into my 
ongoing projects and means. 

2622
02:19:01,900 --> 02:19:05,200
Right? 
So whenever I so, we're not 

2623
02:19:05,299 --> 02:19:09,500
against Power, we're against a 
certain way that power is used 

2624
02:19:09,500 --> 02:19:12,600
on individuals and their 
property. 

2625
02:19:13,100 --> 02:19:16,500
So and it's good. 
I was just going to and it's not

2626
02:19:16,500 --> 02:19:20,000
like it's so utopian to wear. 
Well, what happens? 

2627
02:19:20,000 --> 02:19:21,700
Everyone has to read Lew 
Rockwell? 

2628
02:19:21,799 --> 02:19:24,500
Well, and then develop the 
Austrian theory of power 

2629
02:19:24,500 --> 02:19:27,900
analysis. 
It's literally extend the 

2630
02:19:27,900 --> 02:19:33,000
principles you have for the 
average person to either the 

2631
02:19:33,000 --> 02:19:36,400
church or your family or the 
state, especially in the case 

2632
02:19:36,600 --> 02:19:40,400
that that were discussing here. 
So it's not some pie-in-the-sky,

2633
02:19:40,600 --> 02:19:44,100
it could be a special case in 
the sense of statism has mostly 

2634
02:19:44,100 --> 02:19:47,600
existed throughout history, but 
because it is totally playing 

2635
02:19:47,600 --> 02:19:51,600
human grasp, really, and 
Military conscription. 

2636
02:19:51,600 --> 02:19:56,000
And Don't jump, no, property 
rights for women or whatever the

2637
02:19:56,000 --> 02:19:59,300
idea that even if it is a 
special case, doesn't mean that 

2638
02:19:59,300 --> 02:20:01,700
it's something. 
So, like, far out of the 

2639
02:20:01,700 --> 02:20:03,700
ordinary. 
I mean, the telephone is like 

2640
02:20:03,700 --> 02:20:08,500
something way more complex and 
bizarre, but after enough time, 

2641
02:20:08,500 --> 02:20:12,900
when I say telephone Sun, 
computer microphone, Monster 

2642
02:20:12,900 --> 02:20:16,200
Energy, Drink, people are so 
accustomed to hearing that that 

2643
02:20:16,200 --> 02:20:19,200
were on the same page because 
they know of that thing, as 

2644
02:20:19,200 --> 02:20:21,700
well, to the point where we 
could say. 

2645
02:20:21,900 --> 02:20:24,700
Non-aggression principle and 
people will have a general 

2646
02:20:24,700 --> 02:20:28,000
understanding and recognition of
what that means. 

2647
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:32,000
Yeah, just over time even though
no one knew what microphone 

2648
02:20:32,000 --> 02:20:35,000
computer monster ceiling fan 
were 300 years ago. 

2649
02:20:35,300 --> 02:20:37,800
It was just a special case 
microphone seldom exist. 

2650
02:20:38,000 --> 02:20:40,500
So what? 
So yeah, things can change just 

2651
02:20:40,500 --> 02:20:43,200
like he wants to change us into 
a hereditary. 

2652
02:20:43,200 --> 02:20:46,500
Monarchy things can change for 
the better towards a market. 

2653
02:20:46,900 --> 02:20:47,600
That's right. 
Yeah. 

2654
02:20:47,800 --> 02:20:50,800
So yeah, Bryan Caplan actually 
talks about this like how, you 

2655
02:20:50,800 --> 02:20:54,500
know, people Most people have 
this moral intuition of the nap.

2656
02:20:54,500 --> 02:20:57,100
They may have a moral intuition 
of like it's fake. 

2657
02:20:57,200 --> 02:20:59,200
When you ask them on a 
case-by-case basis. 

2658
02:20:59,200 --> 02:21:02,700
They'll say that well I'm 
against, you know, I think that 

2659
02:21:02,700 --> 02:21:04,000
assaulting that person was 
wrong. 

2660
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:06,700
I think stealing that person was
wrong or that person's property 

2661
02:21:06,700 --> 02:21:10,000
was wrong with what 
distinguishes Libertarians is in

2662
02:21:10,000 --> 02:21:11,800
Libertarians. 
Engage in, what would be 

2663
02:21:11,800 --> 02:21:15,500
considered over learning, which 
is we take these truths are 

2664
02:21:15,500 --> 02:21:19,000
these into moral intuitions. 
We experience that murder is 

2665
02:21:19,000 --> 02:21:21,600
wrong. 
Rape is wrong, theft is wrong. 

2666
02:21:21,800 --> 02:21:24,600
Ang and we expand them out into 
the all the boundaries where 

2667
02:21:24,600 --> 02:21:27,400
they lie where they would 
logically apply, right? 

2668
02:21:27,500 --> 02:21:31,400
So like there's no like, 
Libertarians aren't some other 

2669
02:21:31,400 --> 02:21:34,000
creation or creature. 
We just follow them. 

2670
02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:35,700
We just follow the moral 
intuitions. 

2671
02:21:35,700 --> 02:21:38,500
Most everyone has to its logical
conclusion. 

2672
02:21:39,000 --> 02:21:42,900
That's really it to be quite 
honest and look and Roses point 

2673
02:21:42,900 --> 02:21:46,100
is not that God we have, we got 
to teach people about health 

2674
02:21:46,100 --> 02:21:48,600
care and then education and then
agricultural subsidies. 

2675
02:21:48,700 --> 02:21:51,600
He goes, really, it's actually 
on. 

2676
02:21:51,800 --> 02:21:55,400
Learning something, which is the
belief in political Authority or

2677
02:21:55,400 --> 02:21:59,400
anything illegitimate, which 
anyone in like any society, even

2678
02:21:59,400 --> 02:22:03,200
if you have like no practice 
property rights, David Friedman.

2679
02:22:03,200 --> 02:22:05,700
So I love David Friedman sport 
about this, he goes. 

2680
02:22:06,100 --> 02:22:07,900
Yeah, you know, we see it in 
Birds. 

2681
02:22:08,000 --> 02:22:10,900
We see it in animals protection 
of property and protection of 

2682
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:13,300
self and people immediately 
defending themselves. 

2683
02:22:13,300 --> 02:22:16,600
So you don't get to say, well, 
this is a thing that John Locke 

2684
02:22:16,600 --> 02:22:19,000
invented and the Koch brothers 
are just carrying on 

2685
02:22:19,000 --> 02:22:21,300
arbitrarily. 
Yeah, any day now we could lose 

2686
02:22:21,300 --> 02:22:24,400
it just As soon as we gained it,
no, it's in animals. 

2687
02:22:24,400 --> 02:22:27,000
It's pretty much. 
It's pretty much it and 

2688
02:22:27,000 --> 02:22:31,100
everything and as far as things 
getting effed up, so to speak. 

2689
02:22:31,400 --> 02:22:34,100
Well, you don't get to say 
things are effed up. 

2690
02:22:34,100 --> 02:22:35,500
Therefore. 
We need a state and 

2691
02:22:35,500 --> 02:22:37,800
libertarianism is bad. 
If you look at all. 

2692
02:22:37,800 --> 02:22:40,700
This is the Eric Garner case, of
course, this the guy who 

2693
02:22:40,700 --> 02:22:45,400
murdered them got. 
Now works a desk job and got a 

2694
02:22:45,408 --> 02:22:48,800
raise. 
Look at all the effed up stuff 

2695
02:22:48,800 --> 02:22:51,600
that exists as a cause of result
of their bingo. 

2696
02:22:51,800 --> 02:22:54,700
Eight the early 20th century. 
Yeah. 

2697
02:22:55,000 --> 02:22:59,200
Yeah really. 
So we have what is called the 

2698
02:22:59,200 --> 02:23:03,400
iron law of oligarchy. 
I thought he he did a great job 

2699
02:23:03,600 --> 02:23:08,000
with summarizing this and in the
interview he did on on my show. 

2700
02:23:08,100 --> 02:23:12,600
This is referred to. 
So, this is the reason why did I

2701
02:23:12,600 --> 02:23:13,700
bring this up? 
Eventually? 

2702
02:23:13,900 --> 02:23:15,700
I knew I know I put it in for 
some reason. 

2703
02:23:16,000 --> 02:23:21,600
I think the reason is that 
Matthew Raphael Johnson, the pH 

2704
02:23:21,700 --> 02:23:24,900
She always says that most 
disagreements are regarding the 

2705
02:23:24,900 --> 02:23:27,600
meaning of terms. 
I think with either your oven or

2706
02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:31,500
a lot of his supporters, his a 
lot of his sub stackers. 

2707
02:23:32,000 --> 02:23:35,400
They recognized the iron law of 
oligarchy as we do and they 

2708
02:23:35,400 --> 02:23:38,000
confuse this for a justification
of monarchy. 

2709
02:23:38,100 --> 02:23:40,000
This is what Richard. 
This is something. 

2710
02:23:40,000 --> 02:23:42,800
Richard wolf never is able to 
understand that's why his 

2711
02:23:42,800 --> 02:23:45,100
pictures here. 
The iron law of oligarchy is a 

2712
02:23:45,100 --> 02:23:47,200
political Theory. 
First developed by German born 

2713
02:23:47,200 --> 02:23:50,800
Italian sociologist, Robert 
Nichols and his 1911 book 

2714
02:23:50,800 --> 02:23:53,500
political. 
These inserts that rule by an 

2715
02:23:53,500 --> 02:23:57,200
elite or oligarchy is inevitable
as an iron law within any 

2716
02:23:57,200 --> 02:24:00,400
Democratic organization as part 
of a tactical and Technical 

2717
02:24:00,500 --> 02:24:03,700
necessities of organization 
because theory states that all 

2718
02:24:03,700 --> 02:24:06,700
complex organization, regardless
of how Democratic they are when 

2719
02:24:06,700 --> 02:24:10,300
they started eventually develop 
into oligarchies mikel's. 

2720
02:24:10,300 --> 02:24:13,000
Observe that since no 
sufficiently large and complex 

2721
02:24:13,000 --> 02:24:16,900
organization can function purely
as direct democracy, which 

2722
02:24:16,900 --> 02:24:20,100
arvind says, and he's absolutely
right about correct premise, 

2723
02:24:20,100 --> 02:24:23,200
wrong conclusion. 
Power within an organization 

2724
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:26,200
will always get delegated to 
individuals within that group 

2725
02:24:26,200 --> 02:24:31,200
elected or otherwise. 
The reason this is so vital is 

2726
02:24:31,200 --> 02:24:35,600
because even in a union, so you 
think of there's the bosses, and

2727
02:24:35,600 --> 02:24:40,000
what the workers can do is 
unionize against the bosses or 

2728
02:24:40,200 --> 02:24:42,500
four more power. 
Well, not everyone goes to the 

2729
02:24:42,500 --> 02:24:45,300
union meeting and not everyone 
talks, and some people make 

2730
02:24:45,300 --> 02:24:49,300
better points than others and 
the whatever rules you decide 

2731
02:24:49,300 --> 02:24:51,300
on. 
We're not in the heads of 

2732
02:24:51,300 --> 02:24:53,400
everyone. 
The beginning, some people are 

2733
02:24:53,400 --> 02:24:56,500
better persuaders than others, 
and they got their rules into 

2734
02:24:56,700 --> 02:25:00,700
the Union, whatever, the 
committee decision making 

2735
02:25:00,700 --> 02:25:02,700
process. 
So, some people are. 

2736
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:09,000
So even in that, that sort of 
mechanism of Association. 

2737
02:25:09,200 --> 02:25:12,600
You still have an oligarchy. 
This is what he's right about. 

2738
02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:15,700
This is what's so important. 
This is what, and calms and left

2739
02:25:15,700 --> 02:25:16,800
us. 
Get it wrong all the time. 

2740
02:25:16,800 --> 02:25:19,100
So they assume democracy is 
inherently good. 

2741
02:25:19,300 --> 02:25:22,500
And that's why we can, that's 
why there's so much Alignment 

2742
02:25:22,500 --> 02:25:26,200
with us and Them thoughts on any
of that stuff. 

2743
02:25:26,300 --> 02:25:28,500
Yeah. 
I mean, I think that's right. 

2744
02:25:28,500 --> 02:25:30,400
Right? 
Is that you like in any type of 

2745
02:25:30,400 --> 02:25:32,200
structure, organizational 
structure? 

2746
02:25:32,200 --> 02:25:34,400
You're going to have an amount 
of people that are more 

2747
02:25:34,400 --> 02:25:38,900
dedicated more committed than 
just care more than other people

2748
02:25:38,900 --> 02:25:41,000
and that's going to be reflected
in the work and that's going to 

2749
02:25:41,008 --> 02:25:43,700
be reflected in the outcome of 
their work and they're going to 

2750
02:25:43,700 --> 02:25:47,400
be more rewarded in that system 
as opposed to the people who 

2751
02:25:47,400 --> 02:25:49,800
don't care as much or don't put 
in as much effort, right? 

2752
02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:54,300
This is overlaps quite well. 
The Pareto Principle in, it's 

2753
02:25:54,300 --> 02:25:55,800
good. 
It allows for the division of 

2754
02:25:55,800 --> 02:25:57,800
labor specialization. 
Absolutely. 

2755
02:25:58,000 --> 02:25:59,100
There's nothing terrible about 
this. 

2756
02:25:59,300 --> 02:26:01,300
There was a God. 
I wish I could find this quote. 

2757
02:26:01,300 --> 02:26:03,700
I keep forgetting to look. 
There was, I remember when I was

2758
02:26:03,700 --> 02:26:08,300
really into basketball. 
It was something like a very 

2759
02:26:08,300 --> 02:26:10,800
small percentage of kids who 
play basketball get to go to 

2760
02:26:10,800 --> 02:26:14,000
college and even smaller 
portion, get to the NBA and 

2761
02:26:14,000 --> 02:26:17,100
that's where it is. 
No, no, even within the NBA, 

2762
02:26:17,100 --> 02:26:22,700
there's an oligarchy where 1% of
the players cell 9 99% of the 

2763
02:26:22,700 --> 02:26:25,200
jerseys. 
It's like Kobe, Bryant LeBron 

2764
02:26:25,200 --> 02:26:30,500
James, Dwyane Wade, and the 
fourth guy is like, way down on 

2765
02:26:30,500 --> 02:26:33,800
the list as far as sales go. 
So the fact that we see this 

2766
02:26:33,800 --> 02:26:39,000
everywhere in human structures 
is why hierarchy is legitimate, 

2767
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:43,100
but monarchy is not so bright. 
Again. 

2768
02:26:43,100 --> 02:26:46,800
I'm saying this because they 
will often say well hierarchy 

2769
02:26:46,800 --> 02:26:50,100
exists and monarchy is 
legitimate as a result. 

2770
02:26:50,300 --> 02:26:52,400
They're talking about to toe. 
Right. 

2771
02:26:52,400 --> 02:26:55,200
It's the difference between like
a du jour, monarchy Institute 

2772
02:26:55,200 --> 02:26:59,200
through law and a de facto or 
I'm sorry, does your hierarchy 

2773
02:26:59,400 --> 02:27:02,800
Institute through law and a du 
jour de facto hierarchy 

2774
02:27:02,900 --> 02:27:05,200
instituted through just 
interaction. 

2775
02:27:06,700 --> 02:27:11,500
Here is a excerpt from why I'm 
not a Libertarian by her to see 

2776
02:27:11,500 --> 02:27:15,800
Arvin. 
I think this is the most 

2777
02:27:15,800 --> 02:27:19,400
underlying point that he makes 
against the ideology. 

2778
02:27:19,900 --> 02:27:21,100
Would you mind reading this 
please? 

2779
02:27:21,100 --> 02:27:24,900
Oh, Salute. 
So this is a from his post, why?

2780
02:27:24,900 --> 02:27:28,300
I'm not a Libertarian and he 
goes on to say, in my opinion, 

2781
02:27:28,500 --> 02:27:30,800
the Practical problem with 
grounding libertarian 

2782
02:27:30,800 --> 02:27:34,300
libertarianism in the ideals of 
the American Revolution, is that

2783
02:27:34,300 --> 02:27:37,500
Americans no longer hold those 
ideals and Europeans never did 

2784
02:27:37,800 --> 02:27:40,500
both today. 
Follow both today. 

2785
02:27:40,500 --> 02:27:43,200
Follow a moral code, which is 
essentially socialist. 

2786
02:27:43,500 --> 02:27:46,200
It is true that this is the 
natural consequence of education

2787
02:27:46,200 --> 02:27:48,900
at the hands of the government, 
which is essentially socialist. 

2788
02:27:49,100 --> 02:27:52,200
It is also irrelevant. 
The consequence is the Reality, 

2789
02:27:52,500 --> 02:27:55,300
you cannot explain to people 
that they ought to believe in 

2790
02:27:55,300 --> 02:27:59,400
say freedom of contract as a 
fundamental human, right? 

2791
02:27:59,400 --> 02:28:02,800
When in fact, they do not as 
human again pointed it out. 

2792
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:04,600
Ethical axioms are not 
debatable. 

2793
02:28:05,100 --> 02:28:10,700
And so when it comes to this, 
he's saying that look. 

2794
02:28:10,700 --> 02:28:14,000
But people believe in socialism 
generally, some didn't in the 

2795
02:28:14,000 --> 02:28:16,400
American Revolution, whatever it
is what it is. 

2796
02:28:16,400 --> 02:28:18,800
Now. 
Well then, why do you get to 

2797
02:28:18,808 --> 02:28:21,400
convince people monarchy? 
Yes, better. 

2798
02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:27,200
Then democracy which they claim 
to believe in but so the 

2799
02:28:27,200 --> 02:28:30,300
consequences the reality. 
So stop advocating for stuff. 

2800
02:28:30,300 --> 02:28:33,300
This is the control. 
Stop trying to write in sub 

2801
02:28:33,300 --> 02:28:35,300
stack, people's minds are made 
up. 

2802
02:28:35,500 --> 02:28:38,000
You're trying to convince me 
that people can't be convinced. 

2803
02:28:38,200 --> 02:28:40,500
Yes, exactly. 
That's exactly it. 

2804
02:28:40,700 --> 02:28:43,200
So this is my this I think out 
of everything. 

2805
02:28:43,300 --> 02:28:46,800
I have one this and of couple 
other things will get to later. 

2806
02:28:46,900 --> 02:28:49,200
I have the most problem with 
this sentence right here. 

2807
02:28:49,400 --> 02:28:52,900
You cannot explain to people 
that they To believe in say, 

2808
02:28:53,100 --> 02:28:55,100
freedom of contract is a 
fundamental human, right? 

2809
02:28:55,100 --> 02:28:58,900
When they in fact, don't the 
only time it's appropriate to 

2810
02:28:58,900 --> 02:29:01,500
explain something to someone 
else is when they don't already 

2811
02:29:01,500 --> 02:29:04,100
believe in it. 
Yar. 

2812
02:29:04,100 --> 02:29:07,700
That's planning. 
Yeah, that's the only time it is

2813
02:29:07,700 --> 02:29:11,200
legitimate to explain something 
to someone else is if they don't

2814
02:29:11,200 --> 02:29:13,800
already understand it. 
Okay, let's so. 

2815
02:29:13,900 --> 02:29:16,900
So if we follow that to its 
logical conclusion, as you 

2816
02:29:16,900 --> 02:29:20,100
pointed out Keith, it would be 
like, okay, we're never going to

2817
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:22,700
argue for anyone to ever change 
your mind. 

2818
02:29:23,200 --> 02:29:25,900
Because the right, the 
consequence is the reality, 

2819
02:29:25,900 --> 02:29:28,600
their current beliefs are the 
reality, so you can't change 

2820
02:29:28,600 --> 02:29:30,600
your mind. 
Which also, that, that's just an

2821
02:29:30,600 --> 02:29:33,800
empirical claim, which I think 
is just incorrect on if Really 

2822
02:29:33,800 --> 02:29:37,300
could not change people's minds 
and they're so, so it's not 

2823
02:29:37,500 --> 02:29:40,900
displayed here. 
But earlier in this earlier, in 

2824
02:29:40,900 --> 02:29:43,300
the why I'm not a Libertarian, 
you have been talks about like 

2825
02:29:43,300 --> 02:29:46,100
how social progress is 
essentially a lie, and these 

2826
02:29:46,100 --> 02:29:48,700
critiquing progressivism, which 
I actually I agreed. 

2827
02:29:48,700 --> 02:29:52,000
The progressive view of progress
is a lie mostly but he 

2828
02:29:52,000 --> 02:29:54,000
critiques. 
This idea of social progress, 

2829
02:29:54,400 --> 02:29:56,900
which is he believes just is not
true. 

2830
02:29:56,900 --> 02:29:59,200
So, Society does not progress. 
There's nothing new Under the 

2831
02:29:59,200 --> 02:30:01,500
Sun. 
Okay, and it's reflected here in

2832
02:30:01,500 --> 02:30:05,500
this, in this statement, if he 
really Believed that people just

2833
02:30:05,500 --> 02:30:07,000
didn't change. 
You can't, it's way. 

2834
02:30:07,000 --> 02:30:09,000
It's pointless to try to change 
people's minds because their 

2835
02:30:09,000 --> 02:30:11,500
minds just don't change. 
Well, we would still be living 

2836
02:30:11,500 --> 02:30:13,500
in caves. 
We would still have chattel 

2837
02:30:13,500 --> 02:30:16,900
slavery. 
There's all these things 

2838
02:30:16,900 --> 02:30:20,500
throughout time, which we can 
observe that don't exist anymore

2839
02:30:20,500 --> 02:30:24,500
Blythe's on people that just 
don't exist anymore because 

2840
02:30:24,500 --> 02:30:29,500
people's morality shifted their 
moral views changed over time. 

2841
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:32,700
So the idea that you can't 
explain to people what they 

2842
02:30:32,700 --> 02:30:37,600
ought to do. 
Is just that's just insane to me

2843
02:30:37,700 --> 02:30:41,200
to be quite honest. 
Yeah, and it's not like he says,

2844
02:30:41,300 --> 02:30:43,200
it can't happen on a large 
scale. 

2845
02:30:43,500 --> 02:30:46,100
Well, because the things have 
happened on a large scale, all 

2846
02:30:46,100 --> 02:30:47,400
the end caps. 
I know today. 

2847
02:30:47,400 --> 02:30:51,200
None of them say I'm in and cap 
because my daddy was and his 

2848
02:30:51,200 --> 02:30:55,000
daddy before him and all the way
back to our his ancestors and 

2849
02:30:55,000 --> 02:30:56,500
Scotland and 14. 
Yeah. 

2850
02:30:56,800 --> 02:30:58,300
No one's. 
They say, you know what? 

2851
02:30:58,900 --> 02:31:03,300
I really like to Mitt Romney and
Ron Paul said, so many weird 

2852
02:31:03,300 --> 02:31:05,000
things. 
That I had to look into it and 

2853
02:31:05,008 --> 02:31:09,000
then I found rothbard, and right
then Michael humor, and then Tom

2854
02:31:09,000 --> 02:31:11,000
woods. 
And I've been an cap ever since 

2855
02:31:11,000 --> 02:31:14,600
no one's ideologically know, 
what ideologically starts his 

2856
02:31:14,600 --> 02:31:16,400
libertarian. 
Almost no one, right? 

2857
02:31:16,400 --> 02:31:17,600
So at this all? 
Yeah. 

2858
02:31:17,800 --> 02:31:18,400
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

2859
02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:19,100
At this point. 
Yeah. 

2860
02:31:19,200 --> 02:31:23,200
So, so to say so for yaran are 
do, like, do libertarian just 

2861
02:31:23,200 --> 02:31:25,400
spawn out of The Ether, like, 
I'm curious. 

2862
02:31:25,400 --> 02:31:28,200
Like if he was right and just 
going to your point 

2863
02:31:28,300 --> 02:31:30,200
libertarianism, which is not 
exist. 

2864
02:31:30,300 --> 02:31:32,000
Right? 
If you look at the course of 

2865
02:31:32,000 --> 02:31:34,800
human history, Rotarians have 
should not exist. 

2866
02:31:34,800 --> 02:31:40,800
If what he said was true. 
Yes, and he says, as Hume again 

2867
02:31:40,800 --> 02:31:42,900
pointed out, ethical axioms are 
not debatable. 

2868
02:31:43,200 --> 02:31:46,100
Okay, then no one has the right 
to initiate violence against any

2869
02:31:46,100 --> 02:31:49,600
peaceful person or fraud and you
can't debate that because it's 

2870
02:31:49,600 --> 02:31:52,500
an ethical Axiom. 
What of course? 

2871
02:31:52,900 --> 02:31:55,600
Of course, it's debatable. 
That's usually what do you think

2872
02:31:55,600 --> 02:31:58,500
philosophy departments do 
besides spread evil and 

2873
02:31:58,500 --> 02:32:00,600
socialism. 
They sometimes debate ethical 

2874
02:32:00,600 --> 02:32:03,900
axioms, right? 
So humans coming at this from 

2875
02:32:03,900 --> 02:32:06,100
it. 
So you Humes Guillotine or the 

2876
02:32:06,100 --> 02:32:09,100
is sot Gap is I think what he's 
referencing here and you have to

2877
02:32:09,100 --> 02:32:12,400
remember humans coming at this 
from a skeptic or in a this 

2878
02:32:12,400 --> 02:32:14,200
perspective, right? 
And it kind of a skeptical 

2879
02:32:14,200 --> 02:32:17,700
perspective or he's trying to 
say that look you can't ground 

2880
02:32:17,700 --> 02:32:20,800
something. 
You can't get an odd from an is 

2881
02:32:20,800 --> 02:32:24,900
you can't say that you can't 
look at like Hugh a human being 

2882
02:32:25,000 --> 02:32:27,400
and therefore say that person is
a human being. 

2883
02:32:27,500 --> 02:32:30,500
Therefore now, I think the 
problem with that, the problem 

2884
02:32:30,500 --> 02:32:33,900
with Hume saying is that he 
starts from an assumption that 

2885
02:32:34,000 --> 02:32:36,100
you don't have. 
There's no good reason to 

2886
02:32:36,100 --> 02:32:38,100
believe. 
If anything, you should, sorry. 

2887
02:32:38,200 --> 02:32:41,000
You should not necessarily 
believe something unless you 

2888
02:32:41,000 --> 02:32:43,300
have a good reason to, and 
that's kind of like the skeptic 

2889
02:32:43,300 --> 02:32:45,600
position, right? 
The problem with that position, 

2890
02:32:45,600 --> 02:32:48,800
just real quick before we move 
on, is that that applies to the 

2891
02:32:48,800 --> 02:32:52,800
Axiom of skepticism itself that 
applies to the fact that okay. 

2892
02:32:52,800 --> 02:32:55,300
If you don't have a really good 
reason, for believing, if you, 

2893
02:32:55,300 --> 02:32:56,900
you shouldn't believe something,
unless you have a good reason 

2894
02:32:56,900 --> 02:32:58,500
for it. 
You don't have a good reason for

2895
02:32:58,500 --> 02:33:03,400
believing that Axiom either. 
So, I think a much more gretton 

2896
02:33:03,800 --> 02:33:06,200
grounded starting point for 
moral reasons. 

2897
02:33:06,300 --> 02:33:08,700
Reasoning is moral intuition, 
right? 

2898
02:33:08,700 --> 02:33:12,300
And people seem to have a moral 
intuition that murder is wrong. 

2899
02:33:12,300 --> 02:33:14,400
And this seems to apply, you 
know, there's some edge cases, 

2900
02:33:14,400 --> 02:33:18,000
like, Psychopaths sociopaths, 
but in general, most people do 

2901
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:20,000
have this moral intuition. 
That murder is wrong. 

2902
02:33:20,100 --> 02:33:23,100
And I think that, if you start 
from the position that, unless I

2903
02:33:23,100 --> 02:33:27,700
have evidence to the contrary by
intuition is, is something I 

2904
02:33:27,708 --> 02:33:30,400
have to go off of. 
I think that's how you ground 

2905
02:33:30,400 --> 02:33:33,800
moral reasoning. 
So again, this has to be 

2906
02:33:33,800 --> 02:33:38,200
falsifiable. 
So by the case, Of people having

2907
02:33:38,200 --> 02:33:41,300
different moral views in their 
earlier years. 

2908
02:33:41,300 --> 02:33:43,900
And later years regardless of 
what they are, the fact that 

2909
02:33:43,900 --> 02:33:48,400
they change a lot, can refute 
this you have approval ratings 

2910
02:33:48,400 --> 02:33:52,100
of politicians, which I guess 
wouldn't be ethical axioms. 

2911
02:33:52,300 --> 02:33:56,300
But the idea that you can't 
explain to people that they 

2912
02:33:56,300 --> 02:33:59,900
ought to believe in a lot of 
people change their opinions, 

2913
02:33:59,900 --> 02:34:02,900
whether it's rational or 
irrational, that still can be 

2914
02:34:02,900 --> 02:34:08,000
refuted by the fact that it's 
changed, and again, well, like I

2915
02:34:08,000 --> 02:34:12,600
can tell you, there are a lot of
that is true that when people 

2916
02:34:12,600 --> 02:34:16,100
are much younger, they believe 
in concepts of progressivism, as

2917
02:34:16,100 --> 02:34:19,300
they get older, they believe in 
the much more constrained 

2918
02:34:20,100 --> 02:34:24,300
worldview, Jamie White's 
explanation is everyone, you 

2919
02:34:24,300 --> 02:34:26,700
know, when I was younger, was a 
liberal and now they're all 

2920
02:34:26,700 --> 02:34:29,900
conservative and I think what 
happened is, you know, we saw 

2921
02:34:29,900 --> 02:34:33,500
that people that we knew who 
were scumbags got government 

2922
02:34:33,500 --> 02:34:36,200
positions and we just stopped 
seeing them as, like a totally 

2923
02:34:36,400 --> 02:34:39,800
Legitimate Authority. 
That is a large-scale 

2924
02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:44,500
explanation, or large-scale? 
Example of people changing. 

2925
02:34:44,500 --> 02:34:47,200
If you ask them in college 
versus, when they're out of 

2926
02:34:47,200 --> 02:34:50,800
college versus when they're in 
their 40s, 50s and 60s, people 

2927
02:34:50,800 --> 02:34:56,700
can change so that I thought was
his best, his best point. 

2928
02:34:57,500 --> 02:35:00,800
Oh, and also there's a concept 
called revealed choice 

2929
02:35:00,800 --> 02:35:02,900
preference. 
So there's this idea, you know, 

2930
02:35:02,900 --> 02:35:06,200
I really want to see Grandma and
hang out. 

2931
02:35:06,300 --> 02:35:09,300
With our but I just can't. 
What do you mean you you can't 

2932
02:35:09,300 --> 02:35:12,000
you have an access to a car, you
know where she lives. 

2933
02:35:12,200 --> 02:35:14,000
You don't really want to see 
her. 

2934
02:35:14,000 --> 02:35:15,600
It's been a year. 
You have time. 

2935
02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:17,700
You watch chose, you could have 
done it. 

2936
02:35:17,800 --> 02:35:20,600
So that's how we really know 
where people stand. 

2937
02:35:20,900 --> 02:35:23,900
So because of something like 
revealed choice, preference 

2938
02:35:23,900 --> 02:35:27,100
looking at people's actions. 
Your preferences are revealed by

2939
02:35:27,100 --> 02:35:29,600
your actions. 
Are there any people who engage 

2940
02:35:29,600 --> 02:35:33,600
in Freedom of contract, and then
later disassociate with people 

2941
02:35:33,800 --> 02:35:35,900
and then feel like they have the
freedom to do so. 

2942
02:35:36,400 --> 02:35:39,500
Of their action, certainly tell 
us they do and yes, if you ask 

2943
02:35:39,500 --> 02:35:44,400
them, they'll say that they do. 
It's the equivalent of saying 

2944
02:35:44,400 --> 02:35:47,500
you can't explain to people that
living in a house or using 

2945
02:35:47,500 --> 02:35:50,800
languages beneficial if they 
don't believe that maybe they 

2946
02:35:50,800 --> 02:35:55,500
don't, I doubt it, but they do. 
That's what their actions show 

2947
02:35:55,500 --> 02:35:57,800
us. 
So therefore, it's believable 

2948
02:35:58,200 --> 02:36:02,800
that that they're engaged in 
believing in Freedom of contract

2949
02:36:02,800 --> 02:36:07,100
since they do it. 
So often his final In response 

2950
02:36:07,100 --> 02:36:09,500
to this could be well, yeah 
technically they do it but they 

2951
02:36:09,500 --> 02:36:13,100
don't like consistently believed
in Freedom of contract like Dan 

2952
02:36:13,100 --> 02:36:15,900
caps do, so. 
If you push them, they won't 

2953
02:36:15,900 --> 02:36:19,400
have good arguments and that's 
why they don't really believe in

2954
02:36:19,400 --> 02:36:20,500
it. 
Well, you know what else? 

2955
02:36:20,500 --> 02:36:22,600
They don't believe in monarchy 
and statism because they don't 

2956
02:36:22,600 --> 02:36:25,000
have any good Arguments for 
those just like luddites and 

2957
02:36:25,000 --> 02:36:27,000
protectionist don't have any 
good Arguments for their 

2958
02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:28,600
worldview. 
Most people don't have 

2959
02:36:28,600 --> 02:36:32,100
consistent beliefs for anything.
So like that, that make follow 

2960
02:36:32,100 --> 02:36:34,700
to the logical conclusion. 
So, yeah, it's not a knockdown 

2961
02:36:34,700 --> 02:36:37,600
argument at all. 
Yeah, just as you said, right? 

2962
02:36:37,700 --> 02:36:39,900
Like your means trying to say 
that what we shouldn't for try 

2963
02:36:39,900 --> 02:36:43,400
to persuade anyone because 
trying to change people's minds 

2964
02:36:43,400 --> 02:36:46,500
when they don't already agree 
with you which is like defeats 

2965
02:36:46,500 --> 02:36:48,000
the purpose itself. 
But whatever. 

2966
02:36:48,800 --> 02:36:50,800
He says, that's just pointless. 
It's like well, you're a 

2967
02:36:50,800 --> 02:36:54,400
monarchist dude, you're yours 
writing to people trying to 

2968
02:36:54,408 --> 02:36:56,100
persuade other people of your 
ideas. 

2969
02:36:58,100 --> 02:37:00,300
All right. 
This is where it gets a little 

2970
02:37:00,300 --> 02:37:02,000
sad. 
This one. 

2971
02:37:02,800 --> 02:37:06,200
This is one of his sub Stacks 
that sort of went viral because 

2972
02:37:06,200 --> 02:37:09,500
the men chest mold bug account, 
which is not run by arvind. 

2973
02:37:11,300 --> 02:37:15,600
This guy had said I'm so sick. 
I shouldn't get into that. 

2974
02:37:16,400 --> 02:37:18,300
That's why this is popular that 
account tweeted. 

2975
02:37:18,300 --> 02:37:22,800
This out here is, would you mind
reading this course title and 

2976
02:37:22,800 --> 02:37:24,700
then one paragraph at a time? 
Sure. 

2977
02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:29,300
So this is a I think it's free 
reason, isn't it? 

2978
02:37:29,300 --> 02:37:32,100
I don't know when he wrote this 
but it's pretty recent how to 

2979
02:37:32,100 --> 02:37:34,300
gently suppress any Airborne 
virus. 

2980
02:37:34,300 --> 02:37:37,200
That's the title. 
He goes on to say clearly. 

2981
02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:40,200
We are utter fools if we cannot 
learn from the success of the 

2982
02:37:40,200 --> 02:37:44,600
Chinese regime, despite its 
clear complicity and covering up

2983
02:37:44,600 --> 02:37:46,600
the leak in the first place in 
suppressing. 

2984
02:37:46,600 --> 02:37:50,900
The novel coronavirus actually 
suppressing a respiratory virus 

2985
02:37:50,900 --> 02:37:55,100
is a crucial test of the state 
capacity and it is no surprise 

2986
02:37:55,100 --> 02:37:57,500
the world's most economically 
successful. 

2987
02:37:57,800 --> 02:38:01,300
Cecil regime would prove its 
most epidemiologically 

2988
02:38:01,300 --> 02:38:03,800
successful. 
That's a statement. 

2989
02:38:04,500 --> 02:38:09,900
So, so, so many of the people 
who, like, your oven will say, 

2990
02:38:09,900 --> 02:38:14,400
look if we do nothing, we can 
sit back and be cool, principled

2991
02:38:14,600 --> 02:38:17,000
voluntarist. 
But if we do nothing will be 

2992
02:38:17,000 --> 02:38:19,300
like Australia. 
So sadly, we have to do 

2993
02:38:19,300 --> 02:38:21,400
DeSantis. 
So we don't end up like 

2994
02:38:21,400 --> 02:38:23,800
Australia. 
Well, China is worse than 

2995
02:38:24,200 --> 02:38:25,400
Australia. 
In this case. 

2996
02:38:25,400 --> 02:38:27,700
They were bad from the beginning
as far as covering it up. 

2997
02:38:28,200 --> 02:38:32,700
Yeah, that's one way to put 
creating the lab and creating 

2998
02:38:32,700 --> 02:38:37,100
the virus in the Wuhan lab of 
biology and not not to take away

2999
02:38:37,100 --> 02:38:40,900
credit where credit's due fauci 
and the NIH gave ecohealth 

3000
02:38:40,900 --> 02:38:43,600
Alliance the money for the gain 
of research function. 

3001
02:38:43,600 --> 02:38:45,300
I dead. 
Now, I never want to deprive 

3002
02:38:45,300 --> 02:38:49,000
that kind of man of credit. 
Actually surprised is a crucial 

3003
02:38:49,000 --> 02:38:52,300
test. 
Yeah, it is a test. 

3004
02:38:52,300 --> 02:38:56,600
So he must really like the 
country of Nigeria since Nigeria

3005
02:38:56,600 --> 02:38:59,100
has very low rates. 
Maybe it's because they take 

3006
02:38:59,100 --> 02:39:02,900
things like Ivermectin, and 
other antiviral anti-malarial 

3007
02:39:03,300 --> 02:39:05,000
medication. 
We also have places like 

3008
02:39:05,000 --> 02:39:07,100
Cambodia where the numbers are 
very low. 

3009
02:39:07,400 --> 02:39:09,600
Also, I don't believe the 
Chinese numbers. 

3010
02:39:09,600 --> 02:39:12,000
They have every incentive to 
diminish them in America. 

3011
02:39:12,000 --> 02:39:14,300
They have every incentive to 
inflate them because of the 

3012
02:39:14,308 --> 02:39:17,500
press and you get more money for
and hospitals. 

3013
02:39:17,500 --> 02:39:19,800
Get more money if they are 
dealing with these patients. 

3014
02:39:19,800 --> 02:39:24,700
So they have every incentive to 
call comorbidity deaths. 

3015
02:39:24,700 --> 02:39:29,500
Covid deaths. 
So again, I He puts so much. 

3016
02:39:29,500 --> 02:39:32,700
You put so many eggs in this 
basket of look, a good thing 

3017
02:39:32,700 --> 02:39:34,800
happened. 
This is why we needed as far as 

3018
02:39:34,800 --> 02:39:37,300
it being most excellent on 
economically successful. 

3019
02:39:37,600 --> 02:39:40,100
It's been a monarchy for a long 
time. 

3020
02:39:40,300 --> 02:39:43,100
But only once it embraced a more
free markets and more private 

3021
02:39:43,100 --> 02:39:48,400
property in 1979 as Ronald coase
showed in his economic research.

3022
02:39:49,100 --> 02:39:51,800
That's what's making it more of 
a Powerhouse than it. 

3023
02:39:51,800 --> 02:39:55,100
Otherwise is or else North. 
Korea would be the economic 

3024
02:39:55,100 --> 02:39:59,200
Powerhouse in South. 
Korea would be the Slater at 

3025
02:39:59,200 --> 02:40:02,100
night thoughts on this first 
paragraph. 

3026
02:40:02,100 --> 02:40:07,500
Yeah, it's really depressing. 
I would also like to I would 

3027
02:40:07,500 --> 02:40:10,600
want to know what exactly your 
oven means by most economically 

3028
02:40:10,600 --> 02:40:14,000
successful regime, because first
off it, well, I'm not, I'm not 

3029
02:40:14,000 --> 02:40:17,200
going to deny that obviously, 
China from where it was when it 

3030
02:40:17,200 --> 02:40:19,200
was communist or fully 
communist. 

3031
02:40:19,800 --> 02:40:22,400
It is certainly improved by 
Leaps and Bounds and it 

3032
02:40:22,400 --> 02:40:25,100
certainly economically 
successful that I would just 

3033
02:40:25,100 --> 02:40:27,700
want to know him jarvan's 
methodology for determining 

3034
02:40:27,800 --> 02:40:30,200
Meaning what economically 
successful is. 

3035
02:40:30,200 --> 02:40:37,400
But that's that's a little side.
His idea of that China has done 

3036
02:40:37,400 --> 02:40:39,400
a great job at suppressing the 
virus. 

3037
02:40:39,400 --> 02:40:42,800
It's like you can't determine 
necessarily that one. 

3038
02:40:43,100 --> 02:40:46,800
We have a good reason to assume 
they're lying from this. 

3039
02:40:47,100 --> 02:40:48,200
That doesn't prove they're 
lying. 

3040
02:40:48,200 --> 02:40:49,400
But you know, it's a good 
assumption. 

3041
02:40:49,400 --> 02:40:53,400
It's good intuition. 
I would then go on to just 

3042
02:40:53,600 --> 02:40:58,400
wonder why he thinks necessarily
that because We assume the 

3043
02:40:58,400 --> 02:41:01,400
numbers are accurate that it's 
necessarily because of the 

3044
02:41:01,400 --> 02:41:04,400
government's, little Chinese 
government's lockdowns, that 

3045
02:41:04,400 --> 02:41:08,300
Corridor, the corresponds 
directly or caused the numbers 

3046
02:41:08,300 --> 02:41:10,600
associated with the numbers that
are presented. 

3047
02:41:10,600 --> 02:41:13,300
I think this without further 
Evidence, or without a more 

3048
02:41:13,300 --> 02:41:17,000
evidence to support his claim. 
I think this is falling into a 

3049
02:41:17,000 --> 02:41:18,900
correlation. 
Causation fallacy again. 

3050
02:41:19,900 --> 02:41:24,300
Yeah, for a guy who likes to go 
on very long about things which 

3051
02:41:24,300 --> 02:41:26,900
of course we generally 
appreciate the fact that he 

3052
02:41:26,900 --> 02:41:30,200
doesn't give like a sentence to 
what he means by most 

3053
02:41:30,200 --> 02:41:34,000
economically successful and most
epidemiologically successful. 

3054
02:41:34,000 --> 02:41:37,000
Look, you create the virus. 
That's not epidemiological 

3055
02:41:37,400 --> 02:41:39,100
successful. 
Not cool. 

3056
02:41:39,200 --> 02:41:43,500
That's like a 0 out of 10 on the
epidemiological success scale. 

3057
02:41:43,800 --> 02:41:45,900
Also. 
So the current number according 

3058
02:41:45,900 --> 02:41:48,700
to World Health Organization is 
like 5.3 million. 

3059
02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:55,900
That is Like 1/4 of what the 
Japanese killed in China in the 

3060
02:41:55,900 --> 02:41:59,200
second world war alone, during 
their monarchy Emperor. 

3061
02:41:59,800 --> 02:42:04,500
Hirohito with Hideki Tojo. 
Calling a lot of the shots. 

3062
02:42:04,800 --> 02:42:07,900
So you don't get to say oh 
there's a virus and that's 

3063
02:42:07,900 --> 02:42:09,900
killed people and therefore we 
need a monarchy. 

3064
02:42:10,100 --> 02:42:13,300
Well, let's look at what else 
monarchies do and what Emperor's

3065
02:42:13,300 --> 02:42:15,200
do when they have a lot of 
power. 

3066
02:42:15,700 --> 02:42:19,500
That's one regime in China from 
what when was man chair? 

3067
02:42:19,700 --> 02:42:24,100
Area Invasion 1931. 
So in in a 14 year, span, that's

3068
02:42:24,100 --> 02:42:27,800
1/4 of what that one government 
killed. 

3069
02:42:27,800 --> 02:42:29,800
Let alone all the monarchies 
throughout history. 

3070
02:42:30,000 --> 02:42:33,500
So enough of this looking to 
someone and look, all the Asian 

3071
02:42:33,500 --> 02:42:36,600
countries have lower numbers 
because that's where tsarskoe V1

3072
02:42:36,600 --> 02:42:38,700
came from. 
They have a higher immune system

3073
02:42:38,700 --> 02:42:42,200
could have to compare two 
Chinese people in America Who 

3074
02:42:42,200 --> 02:42:46,400
weigh the same as the Chinese 
people in China. 

3075
02:42:46,600 --> 02:42:51,000
Yeah because look, I'm the first
to say I'm not I am the typical 

3076
02:42:51,300 --> 02:42:55,900
not in good shape American but 
so if I got it, what, which I 

3077
02:42:55,900 --> 02:43:00,300
did in December last year versus
someone in China getting it. 

3078
02:43:00,300 --> 02:43:03,100
I'm much more likely to die from
it. 

3079
02:43:03,200 --> 02:43:06,300
If everything we know about, you
know, people being overweight 

3080
02:43:06,300 --> 02:43:09,900
and exercising less but being 
more likely to to die from this.

3081
02:43:09,900 --> 02:43:13,900
So this is just week. 
Yeah, it's dudes. 

3082
02:43:13,900 --> 02:43:16,100
He makes a claim and then he 
makes another claim but there's 

3083
02:43:16,100 --> 02:43:19,200
no like link to it. 
I don't see, like, like there's 

3084
02:43:19,200 --> 02:43:22,100
so many Any other is you're 
saying there could just be in 

3085
02:43:22,100 --> 02:43:24,600
it's very likely they could have
just more natural immunity. 

3086
02:43:24,600 --> 02:43:26,400
If you even believe the numbers 
in the first place. 

3087
02:43:26,400 --> 02:43:28,900
So there's so many other 
variables that he doesn't 

3088
02:43:28,900 --> 02:43:30,700
present here that are 
considered. 

3089
02:43:30,700 --> 02:43:34,800
There should be considered to 
make the claim as feel stronger.

3090
02:43:35,700 --> 02:43:36,800
And would you mind reading the 
next? 

3091
02:43:36,800 --> 02:43:38,900
Yeah, absolutely. 
So he goes on to say this next 

3092
02:43:38,900 --> 02:43:41,700
paragraph. 
It is unfortunate that China's 

3093
02:43:41,700 --> 02:43:45,600
success with lockdown. 
In quotes, policies has spawned 

3094
02:43:45,600 --> 02:43:49,500
a range of generally ineffective
watered-down Western quota. 

3095
02:43:49,800 --> 02:43:52,400
Lockdown theater, it is not 
clear. 

3096
02:43:52,400 --> 02:43:57,300
That any Western going, quote 
non-pharmaceutical invention has

3097
02:43:57,300 --> 02:44:01,000
had any significant effect on 
the shape of Western covid ways.

3098
02:44:01,000 --> 02:44:03,600
In any case, the waves and the 
variance. 

3099
02:44:03,600 --> 02:44:07,800
Keep coming Chinese covid 
strategy Works in China, but for

3100
02:44:07,800 --> 02:44:10,600
the West inventing, a strategy 
from scratch will probably work 

3101
02:44:10,600 --> 02:44:13,900
better than copying China. 
Here are some simple options in 

3102
02:44:13,900 --> 02:44:15,900
case anyone cares. 
No, he'll be the next part. 

3103
02:44:15,900 --> 02:44:23,100
But yeah, that Okay for someone 
so smart for him to say blank 

3104
02:44:23,100 --> 02:44:27,800
works that is up there with 
studies show with. 

3105
02:44:27,800 --> 02:44:31,200
That's how I know I'm speaking 
to someone who is not really 

3106
02:44:31,200 --> 02:44:34,400
caring to make a valid point. 
What do you mean Works? 

3107
02:44:34,400 --> 02:44:38,200
Compared to what at what cost, 
what's your definitive evidence?

3108
02:44:38,400 --> 02:44:42,600
So yeah, I guess if no one was 
ever able to leave their house, 

3109
02:44:42,600 --> 02:44:45,200
it would work. 
Yeah, because it knows things 

3110
02:44:45,200 --> 02:44:47,500
China was welding people in 
their apartment buildings at the

3111
02:44:47,600 --> 02:44:51,100
Start this like fine. 
Maybe if we did that and maybe 

3112
02:44:51,100 --> 02:44:52,500
that might work. 
In fact, you know, what? 

3113
02:44:52,500 --> 02:44:56,100
If we just lock key hear me out.
What if we just locked every 

3114
02:44:56,100 --> 02:44:59,200
person in America in prison, 
they would have food. 

3115
02:44:59,200 --> 02:45:01,100
They would have, you know, all 
this great stuff. 

3116
02:45:01,100 --> 02:45:03,300
When that be great. 
We could probably want to make 

3117
02:45:03,300 --> 02:45:04,800
covid. 
I think that would work. 

3118
02:45:05,200 --> 02:45:10,000
Yeah, and now that I've called 
it working work, good assumes 

3119
02:45:10,000 --> 02:45:12,700
effort in a Direction. 
So it's good. 

3120
02:45:12,700 --> 02:45:15,100
I've made a, did you know that 
genocide Works. 

3121
02:45:15,100 --> 02:45:17,400
Did you know that slavery Works?
Did you know that, kidnapping? 

3122
02:45:17,800 --> 02:45:23,600
Or did you know that it works? 
And obviously the policies in 

3123
02:45:23,600 --> 02:45:26,100
the west also work almost 
perfectly. 

3124
02:45:26,100 --> 02:45:33,300
Considering the idea is work 
means allow for the politicians 

3125
02:45:33,300 --> 02:45:36,600
and their collaborators to 
coercively rule over the rest of

3126
02:45:36,600 --> 02:45:38,300
us and gain us under mind 
control. 

3127
02:45:38,400 --> 02:45:40,600
It works out very well that like
good job. 

3128
02:45:40,700 --> 02:45:43,000
Yeah, it works. 
He acts like the US has 

3129
02:45:43,000 --> 02:45:45,600
intention is to like well, we 
just want to end the virus. 

3130
02:45:45,600 --> 02:45:49,400
It's like okay for me there. 
Incentive from just their 

3131
02:45:49,400 --> 02:45:53,100
incentive structure. 
Just imagine how much power they

3132
02:45:53,100 --> 02:45:56,900
have amassed from this virus. 
Now whether you think the virus 

3133
02:45:56,900 --> 02:45:59,100
is like legitimate or not. 
I think it's very, I think it's 

3134
02:45:59,100 --> 02:46:01,500
real but the fact that it 
doesn't matter, the fact is 

3135
02:46:01,500 --> 02:46:04,800
that, you know, this is the 
right, the ratchet effect where 

3136
02:46:04,800 --> 02:46:08,500
it's like the state in like, 
incorporates more power and then

3137
02:46:08,500 --> 02:46:10,600
they have known scented like get
rid of that power. 

3138
02:46:10,700 --> 02:46:12,800
So, things are going very well 
for the state and it's going 

3139
02:46:12,800 --> 02:46:16,400
very well for their cronies and 
big business who are profiting 

3140
02:46:16,400 --> 02:46:17,800
immensely from this. 
This. 

3141
02:46:18,000 --> 02:46:21,500
So like to hit his eye, he has 
an implicit belief here. 

3142
02:46:21,500 --> 02:46:25,200
It seems that the Western 
lockdowns have not worked. 

3143
02:46:25,300 --> 02:46:28,000
No, I on the contrary. 
I think they have worked just 

3144
02:46:28,000 --> 02:46:30,800
how the policy makers intended 
them to work. 

3145
02:46:31,600 --> 02:46:33,300
Exactly. 
Yeah, and as far as Lockdown 

3146
02:46:33,300 --> 02:46:37,000
theater, he's admitting that 
governments have no problem 

3147
02:46:37,000 --> 02:46:41,900
pretending to want to do 
something that inconveniences 

3148
02:46:41,900 --> 02:46:44,600
millions of people especially 
the kids. 

3149
02:46:44,700 --> 02:46:46,700
Oh God. 
I tweeted something out, John 

3150
02:46:46,700 --> 02:46:50,200
Ziegler. 
A talk with his daughter on his 

3151
02:46:50,200 --> 02:46:53,900
show and she is just the way she
talks about how she hates. 

3152
02:46:53,900 --> 02:46:57,300
I think she's like nine how she 
hates the masks in school and 

3153
02:46:57,300 --> 02:47:00,400
how ridiculous it God is that 
just that's so sad. 

3154
02:47:00,400 --> 02:47:04,000
And so unacceptable that if 
they're willing to do it for 

3155
02:47:04,000 --> 02:47:05,500
that. 
I mean Heavens, what are these? 

3156
02:47:05,500 --> 02:47:09,500
People not capable of. 
So you don't get to say it's a 

3157
02:47:09,508 --> 02:47:13,100
crucial test to see if, you 
know, we could help people live 

3158
02:47:13,100 --> 02:47:15,700
because people living is good, 
by the way, it doesn't really 

3159
02:47:15,700 --> 02:47:18,600
matter that monarchs. 
And big governments have killed,

3160
02:47:18,600 --> 02:47:21,500
people all throughout history. 
You have to choose one either 

3161
02:47:21,500 --> 02:47:24,800
the, your the humanitarian or 
the brutalist when it comes to 

3162
02:47:24,800 --> 02:47:29,000
monarchy justification, and you 
have to mention the people, the 

3163
02:47:29,000 --> 02:47:32,800
CCP killed in order to get their
grasp on power. 

3164
02:47:32,800 --> 02:47:36,300
Both in the war against Shanghai
Shack in the second world war 

3165
02:47:37,300 --> 02:47:41,500
with the Japanese and Mao's 
Great Leap Forward. 

3166
02:47:41,500 --> 02:47:45,900
You don't just get to have the 
pros on, on your side. 

3167
02:47:45,900 --> 02:47:49,800
You also have to look at the And
so these were just things that I

3168
02:47:49,800 --> 02:47:52,500
had already mentioned earlier. 
Robert F. 

3169
02:47:52,500 --> 02:47:56,500
Kennedy used an excellent work 
on this has said that he thinks 

3170
02:47:56,700 --> 02:48:01,200
approving chloroquine, which is 
their version of HQ. 

3171
02:48:01,200 --> 02:48:05,300
Let's just call it. 
It is why the China the China 

3172
02:48:05,300 --> 02:48:09,400
numbers are much lower than they
otherwise would have been. 

3173
02:48:11,100 --> 02:48:13,600
Where was all right? 
It gets worse baby? 

3174
02:48:13,600 --> 02:48:16,900
Oh, yeah. 
So here is the next paragraph? 

3175
02:48:17,700 --> 02:48:21,500
Yeah, it's titled seal 
International borders. 

3176
02:48:22,700 --> 02:48:28,200
The word seal. 
It's such a childish cover-up of

3177
02:48:28,200 --> 02:48:31,400
what's actually happening. 
Like you're just stealing the 

3178
02:48:31,400 --> 02:48:34,900
Ziploc bag on a sandwich. 
Like it's just like no persons 

3179
02:48:34,900 --> 02:48:37,400
are getting hurt. 
Just sort of ceiling like 

3180
02:48:37,400 --> 02:48:39,800
closing the door real tight 
during the Windstorm. 

3181
02:48:40,200 --> 02:48:42,800
It literally Only means anyone 
who moves out of this 

3182
02:48:42,800 --> 02:48:45,200
geographical area. 
We blow their freaking head off 

3183
02:48:45,200 --> 02:48:47,700
in front of their family. 
And by the way, I care about 

3184
02:48:47,700 --> 02:48:50,200
people so much. 
That's why a crucial test for a 

3185
02:48:50,200 --> 02:48:54,600
state is seeing if they can pass
a respiratory virus. 

3186
02:48:55,100 --> 02:48:57,700
I mean, you can't both, you 
can't play these. 

3187
02:48:57,900 --> 02:48:59,600
Look, I care about people 
living. 

3188
02:48:59,800 --> 02:49:01,300
By the way. 
I don't care how many millions 

3189
02:49:01,300 --> 02:49:03,300
of people died. 
We have to seal international 

3190
02:49:03,300 --> 02:49:05,900
border, stop, millions of people
from achieving their ends 

3191
02:49:05,900 --> 02:49:08,700
voluntarily. 
You get so obsessed with the end

3192
02:49:08,700 --> 02:49:10,700
that he forgets the me else, 
right? 

3193
02:49:10,800 --> 02:49:13,400
Right, or I'm sorry you forgets.
He forgets. 

3194
02:49:13,400 --> 02:49:17,500
What his ends. 
The original motivation he had 

3195
02:49:17,500 --> 02:49:18,800
for those ends in the first 
place. 

3196
02:49:18,800 --> 02:49:22,900
If it's human well-being. 
It's just like, the, the Neo 

3197
02:49:22,900 --> 02:49:25,700
cons. 
Yeah. 9/11 was such an evil 

3198
02:49:25,700 --> 02:49:28,000
tragedy. 
We must avenge it. 

3199
02:49:28,000 --> 02:49:30,100
And I don't care how many 
children we have to kill to 

3200
02:49:30,100 --> 02:49:32,200
achieve that. 
Okay, you're Now worse than been

3201
02:49:32,200 --> 02:49:33,900
lauded. 
You should treat it as a 

3202
02:49:33,908 --> 02:49:38,800
criminal act like anything else.
Jarvan says, if the 2020s have 

3203
02:49:38,800 --> 02:49:42,300
taught us one thing. 
Fun things. 

3204
02:49:42,300 --> 02:49:44,300
All right. 
So this is the one thing. 

3205
02:49:44,500 --> 02:49:46,400
This is the one thing that he's 
learned. 

3206
02:49:46,600 --> 02:49:47,800
Everything else is up in the 
air. 

3207
02:49:47,800 --> 02:49:49,600
There's a one thing that he's 
learned. 

3208
02:49:50,400 --> 02:49:53,700
It is that Humanity can live 
without travel. 

3209
02:49:55,100 --> 02:49:59,100
Yeah. 
Humanity can live with rape with

3210
02:49:59,100 --> 02:50:02,000
slavery. 
It can live with stabbings. 

3211
02:50:02,100 --> 02:50:06,900
I'm not sure what this is. 
Proving you can live. 

3212
02:50:08,000 --> 02:50:10,400
So what if you can necessarily 
do? 

3213
02:50:10,800 --> 02:50:16,000
It does doesn't mean you should.
And all I shows us that we could

3214
02:50:16,000 --> 02:50:19,700
live under democracy so we can 
live there for democracy. 

3215
02:50:19,700 --> 02:50:24,300
Okay, what is this? 
Psychopathy on a lawn? 

3216
02:50:24,300 --> 02:50:26,000
A lot? 
Like you can say, well, humans 

3217
02:50:26,000 --> 02:50:30,400
can live theoretically without 
travel in, you know, every once 

3218
02:50:30,400 --> 02:50:33,800
awhile, but if you really like 
abroad in your time Horizon, 

3219
02:50:33,900 --> 02:50:37,700
that's not a true statement. 
Like if you don't like if humans

3220
02:50:37,700 --> 02:50:40,200
had never traveled, they would 
have just died. 

3221
02:50:42,300 --> 02:50:45,400
Over a certain amount of time 
and go go and continue. 

3222
02:50:45,400 --> 02:50:46,500
I don't want to interrupt, 
though. 

3223
02:50:46,500 --> 02:50:49,100
I before you been reading. 
Nope, sadly, we have to take 

3224
02:50:49,100 --> 02:50:54,300
this one sentence at a time. 
That's how bad this is Humanity.

3225
02:50:54,300 --> 02:50:55,700
Humanity can live without 
travel. 

3226
02:50:56,100 --> 02:50:57,700
I don't even know if that's true
today. 

3227
02:50:57,700 --> 02:51:01,700
What would that have to that 
would have to entail planes 

3228
02:51:02,100 --> 02:51:04,900
being sent that are remote 
controlled planes because you 

3229
02:51:04,900 --> 02:51:07,800
can't have Pilots, right? 
Because Pilots are human beings 

3230
02:51:07,800 --> 02:51:10,500
traveling and that's not 
necessary. 

3231
02:51:10,900 --> 02:51:14,600
So all nations would have to be 
independent. 

3232
02:51:14,800 --> 02:51:18,300
I guess Humanity, like the human
race wouldn't go extinct but a 

3233
02:51:18,308 --> 02:51:20,900
lot of people would die. 
There'd be a lot of shortages, 

3234
02:51:20,900 --> 02:51:24,300
Zimbabwe style or Weimar, 
Germany. 

3235
02:51:24,600 --> 02:51:27,900
Yeah Styles, but again, the fact
that they can live, you know, 

3236
02:51:27,900 --> 02:51:29,400
people can live without 
marriage. 

3237
02:51:29,400 --> 02:51:31,900
Therefore marriage should be 
outlawed, people can live 

3238
02:51:31,900 --> 02:51:34,900
without friends there for 
friendship should be outlawed, 

3239
02:51:35,100 --> 02:51:37,700
right? 
All absolute evil nonsense. 

3240
02:51:37,800 --> 02:51:41,600
This is, this is just like a 
difference between We all have 

3241
02:51:41,600 --> 02:51:43,900
the same ends. 
We just have different means. 

3242
02:51:44,200 --> 02:51:47,700
This is literally some people 
own the bodies of others. 

3243
02:51:47,700 --> 02:51:49,400
I don't care how much misery it 
costs. 

3244
02:51:49,400 --> 02:51:52,500
Yeah, it's one of the great 
things of Life, seeing the 

3245
02:51:52,500 --> 02:51:54,700
beautiful cathedral. 
Maybe I'm just thinking of 

3246
02:51:54,700 --> 02:51:57,100
cathedrals for talking about 
him, but the beautiful 

3247
02:51:57,100 --> 02:52:01,600
cathedrals of Europe and 
traveling, you know, on road 

3248
02:52:01,600 --> 02:52:05,700
trips with friends and you know,
this Mortal life engines 

3249
02:52:05,700 --> 02:52:09,800
existing, if you're just 
existing you like in a technical

3250
02:52:09,800 --> 02:52:12,400
sense or a living, Yeah, but 
you're not really like 

3251
02:52:12,400 --> 02:52:16,200
fulfilling any type of human end
that you could fulfill as a 

3252
02:52:16,200 --> 02:52:20,600
human being. 
Yeah, so I mean, we can live in 

3253
02:52:20,600 --> 02:52:22,800
the concentration camps of 
Australia as you see in the 

3254
02:52:22,800 --> 02:52:25,500
bottom right-hand corner as 
reported by the New York Times. 

3255
02:52:25,700 --> 02:52:27,600
Not just something on Twitter 
because even when I see 

3256
02:52:27,600 --> 02:52:30,500
something on Twitter, I'm like, 
I really seeing that. 

3257
02:52:30,500 --> 02:52:35,400
Or am I just seeing what I think
that was sort of, right? 

3258
02:52:35,400 --> 02:52:38,000
This is a legit thing, 
quarantine coercive. 

3259
02:52:38,000 --> 02:52:40,800
Yeah, quarantine centers. 
Of course, they're called in 

3260
02:52:40,800 --> 02:52:43,900
particular, Jarvan continues, in
particular. 

3261
02:52:43,900 --> 02:52:47,200
It is simply an urban legend 
that trade. 

3262
02:52:47,300 --> 02:52:51,800
Wires travel, a Visa governance,
feeder that harks us back to the

3263
02:52:51,800 --> 02:52:55,300
day of the real life traveling 
salesman. 

3264
02:52:55,500 --> 02:52:57,500
I guess people have to be on the
ships. 

3265
02:52:57,900 --> 02:53:00,900
I mean, can people go between 
states, your highness. 

3266
02:53:01,600 --> 02:53:05,200
Is that okay with you, do the 
idea that do I need a license. 

3267
02:53:05,200 --> 02:53:08,300
That's worse. 
That is just as bad as the 

3268
02:53:08,300 --> 02:53:12,000
Swedish microchips, that are 
planting in people that's 

3269
02:53:12,000 --> 02:53:13,100
mainstream news. 
By the way. 

3270
02:53:13,100 --> 02:53:16,100
That's not David Icke nonsense. 
That's worse. 

3271
02:53:16,100 --> 02:53:19,400
That's way worse than that. 
Passports, because you what do 

3272
02:53:19,408 --> 02:53:23,200
you even need the passport? 
For just don't, don't get it. 

3273
02:53:23,300 --> 02:53:25,600
You don't need to travel. 
Anyways, tree, doesn't require 

3274
02:53:25,900 --> 02:53:29,300
travel. 
You can still live unless he is 

3275
02:53:29,300 --> 02:53:33,100
literally talking about drones 
flying into places and get 

3276
02:53:33,100 --> 02:53:37,500
giving people like dropping off 
supplies, trade, literally 

3277
02:53:37,500 --> 02:53:40,300
requires travel. 
So I have no idea what he means 

3278
02:53:40,300 --> 02:53:42,800
when he says this. 
Like that statement trade were 

3279
02:53:42,800 --> 02:53:45,500
the, it's an herb that it's an 
urban legend that trade requires

3280
02:53:45,500 --> 02:53:47,200
travel. 
I'm perplexed. 

3281
02:53:47,300 --> 02:53:51,100
I'm legitimately blown away by 
this statement because I cannot 

3282
02:53:51,100 --> 02:53:53,500
think, unless he's talking about
like a completely like 

3283
02:53:53,800 --> 02:53:56,300
artificial drone based like 
delivery system. 

3284
02:53:57,800 --> 02:54:00,000
That's just untrue. 
Like, if we're in the time about

3285
02:54:00,000 --> 02:54:02,500
the real world, if we're down 
about like the the consequences 

3286
02:54:02,500 --> 02:54:04,800
are, the reality is your oven 
said before, if we're talking 

3287
02:54:04,800 --> 02:54:08,200
about the real world right now, 
trade requires travel. 

3288
02:54:08,800 --> 02:54:12,600
If the like, if all the trucks 
start, if all the trucker's, 

3289
02:54:12,600 --> 02:54:16,900
stop driving to deliver trade 
and food, too. 

3290
02:54:17,300 --> 02:54:22,300
Grocery stores people will die. 
Okay, like people are gonna buy 

3291
02:54:22,300 --> 02:54:25,300
Humanity can live. 
There's our Humanity can live if

3292
02:54:25,300 --> 02:54:28,200
there's one person left after 
all the devastation. 

3293
02:54:28,200 --> 02:54:29,700
He's right. 
Yeah. 

3294
02:54:30,000 --> 02:54:34,700
That's right. 
It hurts us betrayed requires. 

3295
02:54:34,700 --> 02:54:38,300
It's an urban legend or have we 
beat this dead horse, but we'll 

3296
02:54:38,300 --> 02:54:41,900
look just look at Australia. 
Is betting on remote quarantine.

3297
02:54:41,900 --> 02:54:44,700
Here's what I learned inside. 
That's the New York Times 

3298
02:54:44,700 --> 02:54:47,100
article. 
This is this piece on sub stack 

3299
02:54:47,100 --> 02:54:50,300
by The way is titled Omicron and
governance theater. 

3300
02:54:50,700 --> 02:54:56,400
So yeah, I guess I guess the 
thing that just boils me about 

3301
02:54:56,400 --> 02:55:01,700
this is that you're assuming 
goodness on the half of the 

3302
02:55:01,700 --> 02:55:05,500
state where they have this thing
called terrorism that they're 

3303
02:55:05,500 --> 02:55:07,400
against. 
So once they solve it, then 

3304
02:55:07,400 --> 02:55:08,800
they'll give us our freedoms 
back. 

3305
02:55:08,800 --> 02:55:11,200
There's this thing called 
illness and once and they just 

3306
02:55:11,200 --> 02:55:13,900
need to take it away, take away 
some freedoms because they're 

3307
02:55:13,900 --> 02:55:16,100
doing the best they can, and 
they'll give it back to us, 

3308
02:55:16,100 --> 02:55:16,900
right? 
When they're done. 

3309
02:55:17,300 --> 02:55:20,700
It's this, I guess you could 
call it childish as he called us

3310
02:55:20,800 --> 02:55:24,800
earlier. 
This idea that I one single 

3311
02:55:24,800 --> 02:55:29,300
person who is fallible. 
I'm going to violently stop 

3312
02:55:29,300 --> 02:55:33,600
Millions, but I'm sorry billions
of people from achieving their 

3313
02:55:33,600 --> 02:55:38,400
ends based on a China model that
I think is successful. 

3314
02:55:38,400 --> 02:55:41,900
Even though I don't use the 
numbers, comparatively to other 

3315
02:55:41,900 --> 02:55:44,600
Asians in America and other 
Asian countries. 

3316
02:55:44,800 --> 02:55:47,000
So, based on pretty much 
nothing. 

3317
02:55:47,200 --> 02:55:51,400
He's willing to usher in like 
the closest thing to 

3318
02:55:51,400 --> 02:55:54,700
totalitarianism. 
Yeah, that one could probably 

3319
02:55:54,800 --> 02:56:01,300
but one could probably achieve. 
Flatten high waves, with short. 

3320
02:56:01,400 --> 02:56:05,100
Lockdowns is the next paragraph.
So every time there's a 

3321
02:56:05,100 --> 02:56:09,000
technical waive, the state gets 
to murder everyone who exits 

3322
02:56:09,000 --> 02:56:13,000
their house. 
Yavin says, quote in a true 

3323
02:56:13,000 --> 02:56:15,600
lockdown. 
Not a lockdown theater. 

3324
02:56:15,900 --> 02:56:19,300
No one leaves their house 
supplies are delivered. 

3325
02:56:19,700 --> 02:56:23,500
Who is doing the delivery of 
this, that no one's able to 

3326
02:56:23,500 --> 02:56:26,900
leave their houses for right? 
And who's doing this trade? 

3327
02:56:27,100 --> 02:56:31,400
If people aren't able to travel,
it's an I'm just perplexed. 

3328
02:56:31,400 --> 02:56:34,700
I don't understand how to read 
this in any coherent way. 

3329
02:56:35,700 --> 02:56:38,500
No one leaves their house. 
And the sad thing is is this is 

3330
02:56:38,500 --> 02:56:42,200
not descriptive. 
This is the great and it's a I'm

3331
02:56:42,200 --> 02:56:45,500
saying we need like a China 
model, the US was good in the 

3332
02:56:45,508 --> 02:56:47,200
Gilded Age. 
It's like China today. 

3333
02:56:47,200 --> 02:56:47,600
Cheers. 
What? 

3334
02:56:47,600 --> 02:56:49,400
China did? 
Here's what we need to learn 

3335
02:56:49,400 --> 02:56:50,800
from them. 
Here's what we do. 

3336
02:56:51,100 --> 02:56:53,600
He's literally saying this. 
That's why it's so dangerous is 

3337
02:56:53,900 --> 02:56:56,700
this is right after he was 
saying, it's a waste of time to 

3338
02:56:56,700 --> 02:56:58,800
try. 
You know, prescribed ideas to 

3339
02:56:58,800 --> 02:57:00,900
people when they don't already 
believe those ideas and yet he's

3340
02:57:00,900 --> 02:57:04,500
trying to advocate for something
that people luckily don't 

3341
02:57:04,500 --> 02:57:07,200
believe in America right now. 
At least, you know, it's not at 

3342
02:57:07,200 --> 02:57:10,100
least it's not this bad yet. 
But he's trying to prescribe 

3343
02:57:10,100 --> 02:57:13,600
something even worse and I hope 
they're not listening to him. 

3344
02:57:13,800 --> 02:57:19,000
So 99.99% and that and that's 
what it takes. 

3345
02:57:19,500 --> 02:57:23,100
That's the survival rate. 
It takes for people to entertain

3346
02:57:23,300 --> 02:57:26,000
nonsense like this. 
It's just so evil. 

3347
02:57:26,400 --> 02:57:28,300
Since the I meant knows who you 
are. 

3348
02:57:28,300 --> 02:57:30,400
And where you live. 
It knows what you need. 

3349
02:57:30,600 --> 02:57:34,000
Okay, so we have to literally I 
just read that sentence. 

3350
02:57:34,100 --> 02:57:37,600
This I had to take a screenshot 
because I go if I I only took 

3351
02:57:37,600 --> 02:57:40,400
screenshots here because I go. 
If I copy and paste this, I'm 

3352
02:57:40,400 --> 02:57:44,000
going to get accused of Fraud 
and I wouldn't blame a single 

3353
02:57:44,000 --> 02:57:46,500
person for thinking that I've 
been. 

3354
02:57:46,900 --> 02:57:51,200
I've been The Host this long. 
Just this this statement might 

3355
02:57:51,200 --> 02:57:53,700
be the most insulting that I've 
read. 

3356
02:57:53,800 --> 02:57:58,400
I'm not joking. 
So for someone Who claims to be 

3357
02:57:58,400 --> 02:58:01,100
a like, a follower of mises, 
someone who believes that the 

3358
02:58:01,100 --> 02:58:04,300
austrians are brilliant. 
The that mises was brilliant. 

3359
02:58:04,500 --> 02:58:07,500
The statement that since the 
government knows who you are and

3360
02:58:07,500 --> 02:58:11,400
where you live, it knows what 
you need is insane. 

3361
02:58:11,700 --> 02:58:15,000
Like, I've, I'm sorry, I can't 
take this year. 

3362
02:58:15,000 --> 02:58:18,900
I can't take Yavin seriously 
right now like it's just such a 

3363
02:58:18,900 --> 02:58:20,600
non statement. 
Knowing what? 

3364
02:58:20,600 --> 02:58:23,600
I know. 
He knows that I it has to be 

3365
02:58:23,600 --> 02:58:26,900
like an elaborate role or else. 
He's just incoherent. 

3366
02:58:27,000 --> 02:58:29,600
Here. 
Like it's so hard for me to like

3367
02:58:29,600 --> 02:58:33,300
honestly, take that seriously. 
If you think that the what like 

3368
02:58:33,300 --> 02:58:36,900
just okay, breakdown, what makes
you think, the government knows 

3369
02:58:36,900 --> 02:58:38,800
what you need? 
How could they ever know what 

3370
02:58:38,800 --> 02:58:41,800
you need at any given time? 
What if you change your mind on 

3371
02:58:41,800 --> 02:58:43,900
what you need? 
What if your hierarchy of values

3372
02:58:43,900 --> 02:58:47,400
changes from moment to moment 
when, you know, they're already 

3373
02:58:47,400 --> 02:58:49,600
trying to supply you something, 
you know, there's all these 

3374
02:58:49,600 --> 02:58:52,600
different effects without the 
price system. 

3375
02:58:52,600 --> 02:58:56,900
How do they know how to 
accurately allocate resources? 

3376
02:58:57,300 --> 02:59:00,200
It's all these Elementary 
questions that the Austrian 

3377
02:59:00,200 --> 02:59:03,400
School has been dealing with for
so long and they they're right 

3378
02:59:03,400 --> 02:59:07,300
about and he our man who claims 
to be at least a fan of the 

3379
02:59:07,300 --> 02:59:10,700
Austrian School could make this 
audacious claim. 

3380
02:59:10,700 --> 02:59:15,000
Here is perplexing to me. 
Yeah. 

3381
02:59:15,300 --> 02:59:20,000
So my good friend at The 
Institute, Patrick McFarland. 

3382
02:59:20,300 --> 02:59:23,000
He knows who I am. 
And he knows where I live. 

3383
02:59:23,000 --> 02:59:26,500
Does he know what I need? 
How did the government knowing? 

3384
02:59:26,500 --> 02:59:28,800
They'll know? 
Knowing A and B does not mean. 

3385
02:59:28,800 --> 02:59:29,700
I'll no. 
See. 

3386
02:59:29,700 --> 02:59:34,900
Yes, equals need also. 
Well, maybe see, just means a 

3387
02:59:34,900 --> 02:59:38,800
rice cake and water. 
Like a the very least if you're 

3388
02:59:38,800 --> 02:59:42,800
just talking about survival and 
since you don't need to travel, 

3389
02:59:43,000 --> 02:59:47,200
if the 2020 sawdust anything, 
then, I guess he might literally

3390
02:59:47,200 --> 02:59:49,400
be saying that, but just because
we need it. 

3391
02:59:49,400 --> 02:59:52,400
We also need courts, and we also
need police, but government's 

3392
02:59:52,400 --> 02:59:55,800
terrible at providing those. 
So we'd want competitively. 

3393
02:59:57,100 --> 03:00:00,500
Competing voluntarily funded 
organizations to achieve those 

3394
03:00:00,500 --> 03:00:02,900
things. 
So, just even if, even if I sent

3395
03:00:02,900 --> 03:00:06,400
them a list of what I need, I 
have no incentive to economize 

3396
03:00:06,400 --> 03:00:09,300
if there's no price mechanism, 
and I can't go to my job, and I 

3397
03:00:09,300 --> 03:00:12,400
can't trade, and I can't compare
two Alternatives at the store. 

3398
03:00:12,900 --> 03:00:18,000
And why would they go through 
the work of pleasing me, no 

3399
03:00:18,000 --> 03:00:22,600
matter what I serve them. 
Oh, yay. 

3400
03:00:22,900 --> 03:00:28,100
A new sentence. 
If you have this. if you have a 

3401
03:00:28,100 --> 03:00:35,300
car you may even If you have a 
car, I love how he's admitting 

3402
03:00:35,300 --> 03:00:36,300
that. 
There's going to be so many 

3403
03:00:36,300 --> 03:00:39,400
shortages under this. 
If you have a car, I don't know.

3404
03:00:39,800 --> 03:00:43,700
It looked like Henry Ford made 
the Model T available on NASA's 

3405
03:00:43,700 --> 03:00:48,000
like decades and decades ago and
he goes well, if you have a car 

3406
03:00:48,000 --> 03:00:51,100
in the 2020s, he knows there's 
gonna be so many shortages when 

3407
03:00:51,100 --> 03:00:54,500
the government's calling this 
and Sean's, you may even be 

3408
03:00:54,500 --> 03:00:58,000
drafted into doing deliveries. 
Okay, so no one leaves their 

3409
03:00:58,000 --> 03:00:59,800
house and people are doing 
deliveries. 

3410
03:00:59,900 --> 03:01:02,700
He's young and people are 
traveling. 

3411
03:01:03,100 --> 03:01:05,900
I'm sure this. 
He's one of the smartest people 

3412
03:01:05,900 --> 03:01:08,600
on the planet and he hasn't put 
a lot of thought into this or he

3413
03:01:08,600 --> 03:01:13,500
has and he is not the good 
person that I thought I admired 

3414
03:01:13,500 --> 03:01:16,400
either way. 
He is unfit to exist in. 

3415
03:01:16,400 --> 03:01:21,200
Hello. 
He's unfit to be a monarch 

3416
03:01:21,200 --> 03:01:22,100
rather. 
Yeah. 

3417
03:01:23,300 --> 03:01:28,700
I didn't mean that at all, but I
was trying to Channel The 

3418
03:01:28,700 --> 03:01:32,400
Spooner, quote of the 
Constitutes and that no matter 

3419
03:01:32,400 --> 03:01:33,700
what. 
It's unfit to exist. 

3420
03:01:33,800 --> 03:01:36,900
He is unfit to rule. 
And he'd be a better Monarch. 

3421
03:01:36,900 --> 03:01:39,800
Probably the most people until I
read this. 

3422
03:01:40,700 --> 03:01:44,200
It's just so bad. 
I might be, I might be enslaved.

3423
03:01:44,300 --> 03:01:48,200
That's my system potential 
slavery, but they'll never abuse

3424
03:01:48,200 --> 03:01:49,800
that power. 
We're going to give them tons of

3425
03:01:49,800 --> 03:01:52,000
power and they're not going to 
abuse it. 

3426
03:01:52,200 --> 03:01:54,500
And what if they do abuse it? 
Well, then you'll just say, 

3427
03:01:54,800 --> 03:01:56,600
well, don't throw the baby out 
with the bathwater. 

3428
03:01:56,600 --> 03:01:59,700
We just need a different type of
government in a true. 

3429
03:01:59,900 --> 03:02:01,700
Lockdown. 
You test yourself every day. 

3430
03:02:02,100 --> 03:02:04,000
Fuck you. 
I'll test myself in a walk. 

3431
03:02:04,000 --> 03:02:09,300
I want then show a photo of the 
test to your pandemic app. 

3432
03:02:09,600 --> 03:02:11,600
I'm glad that won't get 
corrupted. 

3433
03:02:11,800 --> 03:02:16,000
If you test positive, you are 
taken to a pandemic Hotel. 

3434
03:02:16,000 --> 03:02:17,800
I'm sure feels nice. 
Doesn't it Kia? 

3435
03:02:17,800 --> 03:02:21,600
Pandemic Hotel. 
It'll be like the Four Seasons. 

3436
03:02:21,800 --> 03:02:23,600
It's not right. 
Yeah. 

3437
03:02:24,400 --> 03:02:28,200
We're you get antivirals. 
How do you know that they'll 

3438
03:02:28,200 --> 03:02:29,700
give us that? 
How do you know? 

3439
03:02:29,800 --> 03:02:34,300
Oh, they won't mistreat us. 
That kidnappers at the employee 

3440
03:02:34,300 --> 03:02:37,700
of the state won't mistreat Us. 
By the way, have I left my 

3441
03:02:37,700 --> 03:02:39,200
house? 
Because I'm not allowed to leave

3442
03:02:39,200 --> 03:02:41,900
my house to go to the hotel. 
Who's taking me people who are 

3443
03:02:41,900 --> 03:02:43,300
not allowed to leave their 
house. 

3444
03:02:43,600 --> 03:02:46,300
He's insulting in Yerevan, stand
in his head. 

3445
03:02:46,400 --> 03:02:52,100
So he and also the, in America, 
the government was totally 

3446
03:02:52,100 --> 03:02:55,400
against antivirals. 
They had basically said nothing 

3447
03:02:55,900 --> 03:02:58,800
until the vaccine antibodies and
chicken soup. 

3448
03:02:58,800 --> 03:02:59,700
Yeah. 
There's not going to be at 

3449
03:02:59,900 --> 03:03:04,500
Orders of chicken or super 
travel, the government's in 

3450
03:03:04,500 --> 03:03:07,800
America and it could happen 
under a monarchy as well. 

3451
03:03:09,300 --> 03:03:12,300
They were very against the use 
of alternative methods to the 

3452
03:03:12,300 --> 03:03:16,900
point where anyone who so much 
as talks about them gets called 

3453
03:03:16,900 --> 03:03:19,900
a crazy horse, dewormer 
conspiracy theorist. 

3454
03:03:20,300 --> 03:03:25,900
It wasn't until Joe Rogan said, 
I took Ivermectin and I took 

3455
03:03:26,000 --> 03:03:28,600
monoclonal antibodies, I believe
that's how it's pronounced. 

3456
03:03:28,600 --> 03:03:31,700
I don't know what it is. 
To Sanjay Gupta and then Sanjay 

3457
03:03:31,700 --> 03:03:34,800
Gupta when I'm Don, Lemons show,
and Don Lemon, of course, gave 

3458
03:03:34,800 --> 03:03:38,400
him the Jeff Zucker ringer of. 
We need to bring this guy back 

3459
03:03:38,400 --> 03:03:42,000
in because he didn't serve us. 
Well enough and Sanjay Gupta 

3460
03:03:42,000 --> 03:03:47,400
says, will Rogan said that he 
took Ivermectin and he took 

3461
03:03:47,500 --> 03:03:50,500
these antibodies and I think it 
was the antibody treatment that 

3462
03:03:50,500 --> 03:03:53,300
really helped him recover. 
So quick, right there. 

3463
03:03:53,500 --> 03:03:57,500
We have an admission from the 
CNN doctor hnic of the CNN. 

3464
03:03:57,500 --> 03:04:01,600
Dr. Sanjay Gupta said, he I 
thought that there was something

3465
03:04:01,700 --> 03:04:05,100
that made people better and he 
isn't out there, recommending 

3466
03:04:05,100 --> 03:04:08,200
it, to every single person 
saying this is what works. 

3467
03:04:08,300 --> 03:04:11,300
This is what, in my medical 
opinion is going to help people 

3468
03:04:11,300 --> 03:04:14,400
recover faster. 
That is how, you know, there is 

3469
03:04:14,400 --> 03:04:16,200
no innocent explanation behind 
me. 

3470
03:04:16,500 --> 03:04:19,400
Well, they just forgot to 
mention potential and some hoops

3471
03:04:19,400 --> 03:04:21,900
treatments. 
No, that's how they got the 

3472
03:04:21,900 --> 03:04:28,000
emergency authorization for 
Pfizer AstraZeneca and moderna 

3473
03:04:28,000 --> 03:04:31,200
Johnson & Johnson, there. 
Is no need to prevent contagion 

3474
03:04:31,200 --> 03:04:33,500
within the hotel, the staff, 
where high-performance 

3475
03:04:33,500 --> 03:04:34,500
respirators. 
Okay. 

3476
03:04:34,600 --> 03:04:37,900
So once there's this big, 
monarchy ushering in tyranny, 

3477
03:04:38,000 --> 03:04:42,300
he's he knows that they're going
to have high performance, that 

3478
03:04:42,300 --> 03:04:44,800
they'll be performing. 
Very high quality service. 

3479
03:04:45,100 --> 03:04:46,700
They're going to have every 
incentive. 

3480
03:04:46,800 --> 03:04:48,900
They're going to make your veins
going to be calling the shots. 

3481
03:04:49,000 --> 03:04:51,800
When someone else is a monarch 
who never answers to him, right?

3482
03:04:54,000 --> 03:04:57,000
Two weeks of true. 
Lockdown is a long time. 

3483
03:04:57,300 --> 03:05:01,700
It will end with certain pods, 
which have to stay home in. 

3484
03:05:01,700 --> 03:05:09,100
What an appropriate term. 
Because they were exposed again 

3485
03:05:09,400 --> 03:05:14,300
99.99%. 
Yeah, once every home is past 

3486
03:05:14,300 --> 03:05:20,000
the incubation period, Any kind 
of massive sustained infection 

3487
03:05:20,000 --> 03:05:23,000
will be gone. 
What's left? 

3488
03:05:23,000 --> 03:05:26,400
Will be the residue of accident 
and non-compliance. 

3489
03:05:26,400 --> 03:05:28,700
All right, I think anything else
on that. 

3490
03:05:29,300 --> 03:05:33,200
I don't think I said, well, I 
said on this bar too much faith 

3491
03:05:33,200 --> 03:05:36,300
in people who have no incentive 
to provide a good service. 

3492
03:05:36,700 --> 03:05:39,400
I don't know how else beside it 
being evil. 

3493
03:05:40,000 --> 03:05:43,000
My whole thing that what I got 
from this and maybe this was me 

3494
03:05:43,000 --> 03:05:47,400
just being emotional was there's
just no worry of imposition. 

3495
03:05:47,700 --> 03:05:51,800
Not just on one person or two or
every system people are 

3496
03:05:51,800 --> 03:05:54,700
inconvenience. 
He just has no problem and 

3497
03:05:55,400 --> 03:05:59,400
millions of obligations on 
billions of people and no matter

3498
03:05:59,400 --> 03:06:01,300
what his positions, 
unfalsifiable. 

3499
03:06:01,500 --> 03:06:04,400
Hey bad government, government's
neutral tool, gotta try 

3500
03:06:04,400 --> 03:06:06,500
something different. 
I don't care how many millions 

3501
03:06:06,500 --> 03:06:10,900
of people I kill and it's also 
very weird going back from the 

3502
03:06:10,900 --> 03:06:13,200
other slide when he's turned out
like why I'm not a Libertarian 

3503
03:06:13,200 --> 03:06:16,800
because he's trying to say that 
prescription that prescription 

3504
03:06:16,800 --> 03:06:21,300
is somehow How useless, it's not
it's not helpful to prescribe 

3505
03:06:21,300 --> 03:06:23,600
certain outcomes to people 
because the consequence of the 

3506
03:06:23,600 --> 03:06:26,000
reality currently is the 
reality, right? 

3507
03:06:26,000 --> 03:06:29,100
And now he's trying to prescribe
a solution to lockdowns, which 

3508
03:06:29,100 --> 03:06:33,700
is much more tyrannical than 
what's going on right now, and 

3509
03:06:33,800 --> 03:06:36,900
he somehow I get the this like 
this D, go back and what he's 

3510
03:06:36,900 --> 03:06:38,000
done for. 
Does he now think that? 

3511
03:06:38,000 --> 03:06:40,300
Oh, now it's actually useful to 
prescribe certain things to 

3512
03:06:40,300 --> 03:06:42,900
people. 
It just kind of contradictory. 

3513
03:06:43,400 --> 03:06:46,400
Yeah, you know, it certainly 
feels like the disarming your 

3514
03:06:46,400 --> 03:06:49,600
enemy. 
It's Bad to have guns says the 

3515
03:06:49,600 --> 03:06:52,500
US government. 
Do they have any guns at 

3516
03:06:52,500 --> 03:06:55,500
government or do they just 
persuade people vile when 

3517
03:06:55,500 --> 03:06:58,400
someone starts shooting at other
people, they just send them a 

3518
03:06:58,400 --> 03:07:00,700
strongly-worded letter from Jen 
saki? 

3519
03:07:00,700 --> 03:07:03,000
No, of course not. 
They know that the guns are 

3520
03:07:03,000 --> 03:07:05,300
important. 
So he knows that ideas change 

3521
03:07:05,300 --> 03:07:07,800
things, which is why that's so 
sad. 

3522
03:07:07,800 --> 03:07:11,500
If I look at a book. 
He came on my show to talk 

3523
03:07:11,500 --> 03:07:13,700
about. 
This is a chapter in democracy, 

3524
03:07:13,700 --> 03:07:16,600
The God That Failed on the 
errors of Classical liberalism 

3525
03:07:16,600 --> 03:07:20,400
in the future of T. 
So, it seems like he has this 

3526
03:07:20,400 --> 03:07:23,100
like, moral nihilism, so 
something is inevitable. 

3527
03:07:23,100 --> 03:07:25,300
Therefore we should submit to 
it. 

3528
03:07:25,500 --> 03:07:30,000
I believe that ideology can win 
and I believe this is where the 

3529
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:37,000
left power lies when they talk 
about racism, colonialism, 

3530
03:07:37,000 --> 03:07:43,100
sexism homophobia, but whatever 
else they don't say, I have 

3531
03:07:43,100 --> 03:07:47,400
studies and the majority of the 
studies tend to show that it 

3532
03:07:47,500 --> 03:07:49,800
Doesn't work. 
They'll say that sometimes I've 

3533
03:07:49,800 --> 03:07:52,300
had very few things their 
biggest points where they get 

3534
03:07:52,300 --> 03:07:55,700
the most amount of power is 
racism, inherently bad, 

3535
03:07:55,700 --> 03:07:58,300
unacceptable, sexism. 
Inherently bad unacceptable. 

3536
03:07:58,400 --> 03:08:02,200
We cannot have this colonialism 
is pure evil and and all the 

3537
03:08:02,200 --> 03:08:03,000
stuff. 
So. 

3538
03:08:03,200 --> 03:08:07,300
Well Hans Hapa says is that we 
have the moral High Ground 

3539
03:08:07,300 --> 03:08:12,400
actually and that's how we can 
have a stable Foundation of 

3540
03:08:12,400 --> 03:08:16,700
promoting our ideas. 
He says, would you mind reading 

3541
03:08:16,800 --> 03:08:18,900
this? 
The highlighted part. 

3542
03:08:19,600 --> 03:08:21,400
The whole thing. 
I'm sorry to do that to you. 

3543
03:08:21,400 --> 03:08:33,400
Oh, no, then the liberal has no 
principle. 

3544
03:08:33,400 --> 03:08:37,600
Moral case to make to lower 
taxes is not a moral imperative.

3545
03:08:37,700 --> 03:08:40,000
Rather. 
The liberal case is exclusively 

3546
03:08:40,000 --> 03:08:43,200
in economic one. 
For instance, lower taxes, will 

3547
03:08:43,200 --> 03:08:45,600
produce certain long-term 
economic benefits. 

3548
03:08:45,900 --> 03:08:49,500
However, at least in the Run. 
And for some people, the current

3549
03:08:49,500 --> 03:08:52,900
tax, recipients and lower taxes.
Also imply, economic costs 

3550
03:08:53,700 --> 03:08:57,800
without moral argument, at his 
disposal, a liberal is left only

3551
03:08:57,800 --> 03:08:59,800
with the tool of cost-benefit 
analysis. 

3552
03:08:59,900 --> 03:09:02,800
But any such analysis must 
involve an interpersonal 

3553
03:09:02,800 --> 03:09:06,800
comparisons of utility. 
And as and such a comparison is 

3554
03:09:06,800 --> 03:09:09,600
impossible. 
Scientifically impermissible, 

3555
03:09:10,200 --> 03:09:13,200
hence the outcome of the 
cost-benefit analysis is 

3556
03:09:13,200 --> 03:09:16,700
arbitrary and every proposal 
Justified with reference to them

3557
03:09:16,800 --> 03:09:21,100
is mere onion in this situation.
Democratic Socialist only appear

3558
03:09:21,100 --> 03:09:24,300
more upfront, consistent and 
consequent while liberals come 

3559
03:09:24,300 --> 03:09:27,900
across as starry-eyed confused 
and unprincipled or even 

3560
03:09:27,900 --> 03:09:31,000
opportunistic. 
They accept the basic premise of

3561
03:09:31,000 --> 03:09:33,600
the current order of the 
democratic government, but then 

3562
03:09:33,600 --> 03:09:36,400
they constantly lament is 
anti-liberal outcome. 

3563
03:09:36,900 --> 03:09:39,700
If liberalism is to have any 
future, it must repair, its 

3564
03:09:39,700 --> 03:09:42,700
fundamental error. 
Liberals will have to recognize 

3565
03:09:42,700 --> 03:09:46,200
that no, government can be 
contractually justified that 

3566
03:09:46,200 --> 03:09:48,900
every government is Give of what
they want. 

3567
03:09:51,000 --> 03:09:55,200
Yeah, when I look at the power 
of someone like ALC, one of the 

3568
03:09:55,200 --> 03:09:58,100
most powerful people on the 
planet, Jimmy doors made a good 

3569
03:09:58,100 --> 03:10:04,400
case for, she's one of the most 
well-liked by or definitely 

3570
03:10:04,400 --> 03:10:07,400
well-liked by the media. 
I think our numbers are much 

3571
03:10:07,400 --> 03:10:13,900
further down than the then it 
then it seems she basically gets

3572
03:10:14,400 --> 03:10:17,600
all of this power. 
And as does Bernie won through 

3573
03:10:17,600 --> 03:10:21,100
historical narratives and giving
people the ideas of You know 

3574
03:10:21,100 --> 03:10:22,900
what happens? 
The New Deal was good. 

3575
03:10:22,900 --> 03:10:25,400
We need a green New Deal. 
So fake historical narratives, 

3576
03:10:25,400 --> 03:10:29,100
give her a lot of power. 
So as Hapa says, in libertarian 

3577
03:10:29,100 --> 03:10:32,700
quest for historical narrative, 
we need to embrace narratives 

3578
03:10:32,700 --> 03:10:37,500
and stories as well to really 
grab it people's heart strings. 

3579
03:10:37,500 --> 03:10:41,000
So their mind is able to work 
harmoniously with their 

3580
03:10:41,000 --> 03:10:44,000
feelings. 
But what she says, Health Care 

3581
03:10:44,000 --> 03:10:47,500
is a right education is a right.
Other people are doing it. 

3582
03:10:47,500 --> 03:10:52,100
That's as far as I'll go with 
making my Empirical case other 

3583
03:10:52,100 --> 03:10:56,200
people do it. 
Well because as I also told the 

3584
03:10:56,200 --> 03:10:59,300
kids, I used to babysit for if 
other people told you to jump 

3585
03:10:59,300 --> 03:11:02,200
off a bridge, would it be okay? 
That's not where the real power 

3586
03:11:02,200 --> 03:11:04,900
lies. 
It is education is a right to 

3587
03:11:04,908 --> 03:11:08,300
healthcare is a right course, it
involves enslaving others, if 

3588
03:11:08,300 --> 03:11:13,700
it's a positive, right, but if 
we take this case and compare it

3589
03:11:13,700 --> 03:11:19,000
to, there's look that there's 
just no there's no on inventing 

3590
03:11:19,500 --> 03:11:22,700
this concept this Jeffrey. 
Tucker says, ideas are like 

3591
03:11:22,700 --> 03:11:27,500
viruses. 
And once this lie of political 

3592
03:11:27,500 --> 03:11:32,600
authorities exposed, it's it's 
hopefully not going back. 

3593
03:11:32,600 --> 03:11:37,700
It's not inevitable roulette. 
This can win just as the left is

3594
03:11:37,700 --> 03:11:39,500
wins with. 
Oh, yeah. 

3595
03:11:39,500 --> 03:11:43,400
To talk about can people change,
there's the levels of racism, 

3596
03:11:43,400 --> 03:11:46,200
sexism and homophobia have 
changed. 

3597
03:11:46,300 --> 03:11:48,700
But whatever you think they are.
They are not the same. 

3598
03:11:48,700 --> 03:11:51,500
Therefore if people can change 
both at an All levels and 

3599
03:11:51,500 --> 03:11:55,300
societies. 
So, yes, we are not dumb. 

3600
03:11:55,300 --> 03:11:57,500
Idiots. 
Bumping into walls because we 

3601
03:11:57,500 --> 03:12:00,800
care about ideology where we're 
looking at who's winning and 

3602
03:12:00,800 --> 03:12:04,200
what they're doing your VIN in 
Waimanalo libertarian. 

3603
03:12:04,200 --> 03:12:07,400
He specifically rejects like any
moral Norm, right? 

3604
03:12:07,400 --> 03:12:09,600
He's thinking about things just 
through like an engineering 

3605
03:12:09,600 --> 03:12:11,600
perspective about like, what is 
right? 

3606
03:12:11,600 --> 03:12:15,800
And what can be. 
So he rejects the moral basis 

3607
03:12:15,800 --> 03:12:17,400
for libertarianism. 
And that's one of the reasons. 

3608
03:12:17,400 --> 03:12:20,600
I think he's not a Libertarian, 
but I just did. 

3609
03:12:20,800 --> 03:12:24,100
I wanted to address the 
inevitable inevitability issue, 

3610
03:12:24,100 --> 03:12:26,700
right? 
So here's the thing, most 

3611
03:12:26,700 --> 03:12:31,800
people. 
Still hold moral Norms against 

3612
03:12:31,800 --> 03:12:34,500
things that are genuinely 
considered generally considered 

3613
03:12:34,500 --> 03:12:37,500
inevitable, right? 
So let's imagine a scenario 

3614
03:12:37,500 --> 03:12:40,800
where most people most people 
around the world are against 

3615
03:12:40,800 --> 03:12:44,600
murder. 
Most people would also would say

3616
03:12:44,600 --> 03:12:47,900
that murder can never be ready. 
Katie from the human species, 

3617
03:12:47,900 --> 03:12:48,900
right? 
There's always going to be 

3618
03:12:48,900 --> 03:12:51,300
murderers somewhere, some, in 
some time. 

3619
03:12:51,600 --> 03:12:55,000
So the fact that we can't get 
rid of murder, doesn't entail 

3620
03:12:55,000 --> 03:12:57,600
that we should submit to the 
murderers or that we should let 

3621
03:12:57,600 --> 03:13:00,200
ourselves be. 
I murders or be killed same for 

3622
03:13:00,200 --> 03:13:05,300
rapists and thieves, right? 
So this this is in my opinion. 

3623
03:13:05,300 --> 03:13:07,900
Why I like if you're an 
anarchist, even if you believe 

3624
03:13:07,900 --> 03:13:09,700
that the state would not go 
away. 

3625
03:13:09,700 --> 03:13:10,700
Now. 
That's I'm not making that 

3626
03:13:10,700 --> 03:13:11,800
claim. 
But definitely, even if we 

3627
03:13:11,800 --> 03:13:14,100
assume that the state would 
always be there, that doesn't 

3628
03:13:14,100 --> 03:13:15,600
mean we should still submit to 
it. 

3629
03:13:15,700 --> 03:13:16,500
Right? 
If you like. 

3630
03:13:16,500 --> 03:13:19,100
If someone if a time, traveller 
came to me and said 10,000 years

3631
03:13:19,100 --> 03:13:20,800
into the future, there are still
States. 

3632
03:13:20,800 --> 03:13:23,400
I would still be an anarchist 
because I still believe that is 

3633
03:13:23,400 --> 03:13:25,700
morally unjustified for the 
state of role in the way. 

3634
03:13:25,700 --> 03:13:26,400
It does. 
Now. 

3635
03:13:26,400 --> 03:13:30,000
Your point to ideology is great.
This is you said this is where 

3636
03:13:30,000 --> 03:13:32,000
the left wins. 
They have better rhetoric. 

3637
03:13:32,000 --> 03:13:34,700
They can use the rhetoric in a 
way that appeals to moral 

3638
03:13:34,700 --> 03:13:37,200
intuitions that people have. 
And now the left, of course, 

3639
03:13:37,200 --> 03:13:41,300
defiles these intuitions into, 
like the state aggression, but 

3640
03:13:41,300 --> 03:13:44,900
the there's like, a moral 
Intuition or premise that people

3641
03:13:44,900 --> 03:13:45,700
have that. 
Yeah. 

3642
03:13:45,700 --> 03:13:47,700
People should, you know, have 
money. 

3643
03:13:47,700 --> 03:13:49,600
They shouldn't have starve to 
death on the street, you know, 

3644
03:13:49,600 --> 03:13:53,400
there's the people shouldn't 
treat others as low less than 

3645
03:13:53,400 --> 03:13:55,800
them, you know, there's a 
certain something that they're 

3646
03:13:55,800 --> 03:13:59,400
pulling from there and they're 
able to, you know, Torque Lee 

3647
03:13:59,700 --> 03:14:02,900
Drive that into different 
policies in two different 

3648
03:14:02,900 --> 03:14:04,900
policy. 
Proposals that gained steam over

3649
03:14:04,900 --> 03:14:07,500
time. 
So people do change their minds 

3650
03:14:07,600 --> 03:14:10,500
and in fact, the greatest 
example of this would be the 

3651
03:14:10,500 --> 03:14:12,600
abolition of slavery at one 
time. 

3652
03:14:12,600 --> 03:14:15,100
Everyone thought it was 
completely legitimate to own 

3653
03:14:15,100 --> 03:14:17,500
another person to like 
explicitly write. 

3654
03:14:18,100 --> 03:14:21,800
And now, if you thought about 
that legitimately today, people 

3655
03:14:21,800 --> 03:14:24,100
would like run you out of town, 
right? 

3656
03:14:24,100 --> 03:14:28,300
So, so we obviously are your 
ovens. 

3657
03:14:28,400 --> 03:14:31,600
Empirical claim above like, 
earlier on that people just 

3658
03:14:31,600 --> 03:14:33,900
don't change your mind or it's 
pointless to try to change your 

3659
03:14:33,900 --> 03:14:35,800
mind. 
I just think that's false. 

3660
03:14:36,400 --> 03:14:40,100
You ignore like every single 
possible outcome that has come 

3661
03:14:40,100 --> 03:14:43,500
from people having their minds 
changed even whether they've 

3662
03:14:43,500 --> 03:14:45,800
been like deceived in some 
sense, right? 

3663
03:14:45,800 --> 03:14:47,400
That's still a changing of 
someone's mind. 

3664
03:14:47,400 --> 03:14:49,000
Even if they've been deceived by
something. 

3665
03:14:49,800 --> 03:14:53,500
Yeah, you don't say, you can't 
logically say, people don't 

3666
03:14:53,500 --> 03:14:56,200
change their minds and then just
ignore the people who have 

3667
03:14:56,200 --> 03:14:58,600
changed their minds. 
Yes, because that does That's 

3668
03:14:58,600 --> 03:15:01,100
like saying, you know, 
everyone's Muslim except for 

3669
03:15:01,100 --> 03:15:03,400
except for all who think they're
not Muslim. 

3670
03:15:03,400 --> 03:15:05,200
Yes. 
They're just so dumb and that's 

3671
03:15:05,200 --> 03:15:07,800
how deep into Islam. 
They are for peddling that they 

3672
03:15:07,800 --> 03:15:10,000
can't even see the Islam that 
they believe in. 

3673
03:15:10,100 --> 03:15:11,100
Yes help. 
Right. 

3674
03:15:11,300 --> 03:15:14,600
So when it's unfalsifiable like 
that again, well, then, of 

3675
03:15:14,600 --> 03:15:20,300
course he can always be right. 
So these when I think of 

3676
03:15:20,300 --> 03:15:23,500
comparative questions, I say, 
alright, so he rejects the 

3677
03:15:23,500 --> 03:15:28,300
morality of the situation, which
I think we just need to start. 

3678
03:15:28,400 --> 03:15:33,200
Taking people at their word for 
and just start demanding of them

3679
03:15:33,500 --> 03:15:36,600
that. 
So you don't have a preference 

3680
03:15:36,900 --> 03:15:41,000
whether I stab you or you choose
to get surgery by a doctor 

3681
03:15:41,200 --> 03:15:44,700
because in both cases, you're 
getting cut and you're bleeding 

3682
03:15:44,700 --> 03:15:47,200
and there's sometimes pain. 
There's no difference between 

3683
03:15:47,200 --> 03:15:49,000
those. 
So we really, I think it's 

3684
03:15:49,000 --> 03:15:52,100
important to really push it in 
someone's face. 

3685
03:15:52,300 --> 03:15:56,200
So me shooting into a crowd and 
killing a random person is just 

3686
03:15:56,200 --> 03:16:00,500
as bad as a woman murderer. 
Guy raping her because in both 

3687
03:16:00,500 --> 03:16:04,000
cases, people get shot. 
There's no like, who cares if 

3688
03:16:04,000 --> 03:16:06,800
one person's aggressing and the 
other person's not aggressive. 

3689
03:16:06,800 --> 03:16:10,600
It's the same thing. 
That is how dumb you have to be 

3690
03:16:10,900 --> 03:16:12,800
to say that. 
Well, the nap is just 

3691
03:16:12,800 --> 03:16:17,400
ridiculous. 
So the that that's just my final

3692
03:16:17,400 --> 03:16:20,700
thing on the moral nihilist 
thing when it comes to, all 

3693
03:16:20,700 --> 03:16:22,100
right. 
He's an engineer who just cares 

3694
03:16:22,100 --> 03:16:24,800
about efficiency. 
The questions that I would have 

3695
03:16:24,800 --> 03:16:25,800
that. 
I still think the free 

3696
03:16:25,800 --> 03:16:29,400
marketeers win is because every 
shortcut Meaning of the free 

3697
03:16:29,400 --> 03:16:32,300
market applies tenfold to the 
state because they don't face 

3698
03:16:32,300 --> 03:16:34,500
competition and you can't opt 
out of funding them. 

3699
03:16:34,800 --> 03:16:38,800
So I would ask him which system 
incentivizes Innovation. 

3700
03:16:39,200 --> 03:16:41,000
Well, the King has a low time 
preference. 

3701
03:16:41,600 --> 03:16:44,000
Everyone can have a low time 
preference at some point in 

3702
03:16:44,000 --> 03:16:49,000
their own life. 
The king who whoever is the king

3703
03:16:49,200 --> 03:16:52,800
in that society would be of the 
same species as other people in 

3704
03:16:52,800 --> 03:16:54,800
a free market. 
Someone have low time, 

3705
03:16:54,800 --> 03:16:57,900
preference, others, high, and 
that's how we trade and that's 

3706
03:16:57,900 --> 03:17:01,000
why I try It is Meaningful. 
Any thoughts on this first 

3707
03:17:01,000 --> 03:17:03,600
comparative question? 
And anything else you have on 

3708
03:17:03,600 --> 03:17:07,600
the moral status of rejecting, 
self-ownership voluntary 

3709
03:17:07,600 --> 03:17:10,400
exchanges. 
Well on the comparative 

3710
03:17:10,400 --> 03:17:13,400
advantage here, I think it's 
absolutely what you said is 

3711
03:17:13,400 --> 03:17:14,200
absolutely true. 
Right? 

3712
03:17:14,200 --> 03:17:17,200
So like I want to be very clear 
to anarchists and Libertarians 

3713
03:17:17,200 --> 03:17:20,200
are not saying that the free 
market is only going to ever 

3714
03:17:20,200 --> 03:17:22,300
produce good results. 
Or there's ever only going to be

3715
03:17:22,300 --> 03:17:24,000
good things in a free market 
Society. 

3716
03:17:24,200 --> 03:17:27,800
It's the fact that every single 
problem of the free market is, 

3717
03:17:28,300 --> 03:17:32,100
Just a problem with existence 
itself and they get more in the 

3718
03:17:32,100 --> 03:17:34,800
problems become more, and more 
apparent, and more costly to 

3719
03:17:34,800 --> 03:17:37,800
more people, the more their 
centralizing monopolized. 

3720
03:17:37,900 --> 03:17:42,600
So, that's why, if I take, if 
I'm just a decentralized actor 

3721
03:17:42,800 --> 03:17:47,200
and I take an action, which 
affects me it's going to cost is

3722
03:17:47,200 --> 03:17:49,000
going to be on me. 
And then I also get an 

3723
03:17:49,000 --> 03:17:54,300
informational signal because I 
suffered a loss that's going to 

3724
03:17:54,300 --> 03:17:56,200
like direct me in a way where I 
can say. 

3725
03:17:56,208 --> 03:17:59,600
Okay, if I want to get, if I 
don't want Two losses anymore, 

3726
03:18:00,200 --> 03:18:03,200
how it can kind of show me 
where, how did I go wrong? 

3727
03:18:03,300 --> 03:18:05,900
What can I improve upon? 
What did other people around me?

3728
03:18:05,900 --> 03:18:07,800
Do where they improve where they
succeeded? 

3729
03:18:07,800 --> 03:18:09,800
Where I failed. 
So you do have this comparative 

3730
03:18:09,800 --> 03:18:12,000
analysis from decentralized 
actors. 

3731
03:18:12,000 --> 03:18:14,700
When they when they fail. 
So it's not that you know, it's 

3732
03:18:14,700 --> 03:18:15,800
always going to produce good 
things. 

3733
03:18:15,800 --> 03:18:18,700
It's that when people fail, they
can information from it and most

3734
03:18:18,700 --> 03:18:23,000
importantly the cost is genuine 
generally directed towards that 

3735
03:18:23,000 --> 03:18:25,700
they feel the cost. 
Whereas when you have a monopoly

3736
03:18:25,700 --> 03:18:28,200
structure and something goes 
wrong everyone. 

3737
03:18:28,300 --> 03:18:30,800
Pays for it, right? 
If the state messes up, guess 

3738
03:18:30,800 --> 03:18:32,500
what? 
That money is coming from your 

3739
03:18:32,500 --> 03:18:37,600
taxes, bud. 
Exactly, when well which system 

3740
03:18:37,600 --> 03:18:41,500
incentivizes growth. 
Again, you can say that the 

3741
03:18:41,500 --> 03:18:45,100
Monarch might or is likely to 
have a low time preference 

3742
03:18:45,100 --> 03:18:47,400
again. 
Maybe he's a psycho, like other 

3743
03:18:47,400 --> 03:18:49,400
people who don't even value 
their own property. 

3744
03:18:49,800 --> 03:18:54,800
Yeah, so generally speaking, 
which system has less menaka 

3745
03:18:54,800 --> 03:18:58,500
call South Korea, done better, 
or worse as far as Innovation 

3746
03:18:58,500 --> 03:19:02,800
and getting shit done as he 
likes to say, then North Korea. 

3747
03:19:02,800 --> 03:19:07,200
He's got to Handle that 
objection because those are the,

3748
03:19:07,200 --> 03:19:11,200
that's the best example of to 
comparative populations. 

3749
03:19:11,400 --> 03:19:14,000
That's reasonable. 
It's not like China and America.

3750
03:19:14,200 --> 03:19:16,300
What are dishonest comparison 
for covid? 

3751
03:19:16,300 --> 03:19:20,300
A second? 
What what we said about the 

3752
03:19:20,300 --> 03:19:23,000
Watchman? 
Bad actors exist. 

3753
03:19:23,100 --> 03:19:27,200
Always everywhere as humans 
which system best counteracts 

3754
03:19:27,200 --> 03:19:29,000
them. 
Again, think it's the free 

3755
03:19:29,000 --> 03:19:32,400
market that at least it one you 
can disassociate with them and 

3756
03:19:32,400 --> 03:19:35,400
not fund them and they don't A 
magical money printing machine, 

3757
03:19:35,600 --> 03:19:38,100
that attracts the most evil 
people ever second. 

3758
03:19:38,300 --> 03:19:42,700
If we have someone evil, like 
Bezos or Rockefeller Carnegie 

3759
03:19:42,800 --> 03:19:44,800
Ford, let's say they're all pure
evil. 

3760
03:19:45,200 --> 03:19:48,000
They can't get a penny out of my
pocket unless they make me happy

3761
03:19:48,000 --> 03:19:49,500
with a product or service. 
Yeah. 

3762
03:19:49,500 --> 03:19:53,600
That that I want to purchase in 
exchange for them. 

3763
03:19:54,600 --> 03:19:57,200
And if they try to force you, 
you you would be legally 

3764
03:19:57,200 --> 03:20:00,200
justified in resisting. 
It would be widely recognized 

3765
03:20:00,200 --> 03:20:02,600
that I have lectures. 
They'd be seen as any other 

3766
03:20:02,600 --> 03:20:03,500
criminal. 
That's right. 

3767
03:20:04,100 --> 03:20:06,900
Whereas the Monarch would have 
this Halo of legitimacy. 

3768
03:20:07,100 --> 03:20:11,400
Yes, not justified at all. 
Where does the equilibrium lie? 

3769
03:20:11,400 --> 03:20:14,400
Again? 
He can say that. 

3770
03:20:14,400 --> 03:20:19,600
Well, the Monarch is not going 
to totally deplete his future 

3771
03:20:19,600 --> 03:20:24,000
income because he has a low time
preference. 

3772
03:20:24,300 --> 03:20:29,700
Maybe, maybe not. 
How do you find that 

3773
03:20:29,700 --> 03:20:32,200
equilibrium? 
Should you consume everything? 

3774
03:20:32,200 --> 03:20:35,300
Now everything later? 
Well, neither of those what you 

3775
03:20:35,300 --> 03:20:39,300
want to find is a balance, a 
free market that allows people 

3776
03:20:39,500 --> 03:20:43,800
to innovate and come up with 
substitutes is a much better way

3777
03:20:43,800 --> 03:20:47,400
to find an equilibrium rather 
than will. 

3778
03:20:47,400 --> 03:20:53,000
The single psycho feel like the 
costs are now beginning to 

3779
03:20:53,000 --> 03:20:57,100
outweigh the benefits right? 
And no correcting mechanism, 

3780
03:20:57,400 --> 03:20:59,100
right? 
And with an equilibrium, you in 

3781
03:20:59,100 --> 03:21:02,400
some sense have to use the 
market processes, like a filter,

3782
03:21:02,400 --> 03:21:05,300
like an evolutionary filter. 
And Some sense to find out where

3783
03:21:05,300 --> 03:21:07,500
that magic sweet spot is for 
anything. 

3784
03:21:07,600 --> 03:21:10,400
Because if you try to centrally 
plan, you have no idea where the

3785
03:21:10,400 --> 03:21:14,700
equilibrium is because you can't
like a net, you can't engage in 

3786
03:21:14,700 --> 03:21:19,100
analysis in regards to prices 
and the scarcity of resources. 

3787
03:21:19,300 --> 03:21:21,500
So when we feel when we're 
talking about prices in the 

3788
03:21:21,508 --> 03:21:24,800
market, what we're really what 
prices are ultimately, are they 

3789
03:21:24,800 --> 03:21:27,000
will they give an incentive? 
But ultimately prices are 

3790
03:21:27,000 --> 03:21:29,900
information, right? 
So whenever we're engaged in a 

3791
03:21:29,908 --> 03:21:33,100
local transaction, Keith you and
I are engaged, you want to trade

3792
03:21:33,100 --> 03:21:34,500
me, something I want. 
I do something. 

3793
03:21:34,500 --> 03:21:39,600
We have knowledge over like it 
of things within our like, 

3794
03:21:39,600 --> 03:21:43,600
vicinity, right. 
That we trade with what we don't

3795
03:21:43,600 --> 03:21:46,100
have. 
Not like direct local. 

3796
03:21:46,100 --> 03:21:52,500
Knowledge of is like the what 
the resources that went into the

3797
03:21:52,500 --> 03:21:55,600
things we were training and what
those scarcity is of them right 

3798
03:21:55,600 --> 03:21:56,500
now. 
And what are the production 

3799
03:21:56,500 --> 03:22:00,400
levels, you know the 
transportation to get from A to 

3800
03:22:00,400 --> 03:22:03,300
B, like all these different 
things, but those things are 

3801
03:22:03,300 --> 03:22:05,100
communicated. 
Educated to people through 

3802
03:22:05,100 --> 03:22:07,800
implicitly, through the price 
system, right? 

3803
03:22:07,900 --> 03:22:12,000
So you have to, if you, if you 
just don't engage in the price 

3804
03:22:12,000 --> 03:22:13,600
system. 
You're not going to find an 

3805
03:22:13,600 --> 03:22:19,100
equilibrium whatsoever. 
Yeah, I think Alex tabarrok, uh,

3806
03:22:19,100 --> 03:22:22,800
said it best when he said a 
price is a signal wrapped in an 

3807
03:22:22,800 --> 03:22:26,300
incentive. 
Yes, the higher prices will 

3808
03:22:26,300 --> 03:22:29,600
signal that some things are more
scarce than others and provide 

3809
03:22:29,600 --> 03:22:32,800
an incentive for people to use 
the scarce resources that 

3810
03:22:32,800 --> 03:22:36,700
Society has In a much more 
efficient way again, never work 

3811
03:22:36,700 --> 03:22:41,500
Cummings with that but it's 
still in the voluntary realm. 

3812
03:22:41,600 --> 03:22:43,100
What do you can? 
Never hit me delivery. 

3813
03:22:43,100 --> 03:22:45,400
Mmm, but you can always get you 
oriented towards the 

3814
03:22:45,400 --> 03:22:48,500
equilibrium. 
Yeah, again, what which process 

3815
03:22:48,500 --> 03:22:50,800
is superior? 
It's not like instead of being 

3816
03:22:50,800 --> 03:22:52,400
imperfect. 
We should be perfect. 

3817
03:22:53,500 --> 03:22:58,300
There's there's always, always 
constraints that. 

3818
03:22:59,700 --> 03:23:03,600
And then I just tried to 
summarize my general position. 

3819
03:23:03,800 --> 03:23:09,000
And what yarv anism leads out 
and I didn't mean to that was 

3820
03:23:09,000 --> 03:23:13,900
more note to myself than calling
it that what I said, the concept

3821
03:23:13,900 --> 03:23:17,300
of monarchy being superior to 
the free market has a 

3822
03:23:17,300 --> 03:23:19,800
shortcoming which I see as the 
following. 

3823
03:23:20,200 --> 03:23:23,700
It's a worldview that does not 
distinguish between a boxing 

3824
03:23:23,700 --> 03:23:28,300
match and assault. 
It should be rejected because 

3825
03:23:28,300 --> 03:23:30,400
any attempt to design a system 
for human beings. 

3826
03:23:30,600 --> 03:23:33,700
Should recognize what 
distinguishes human beings as a 

3827
03:23:33,800 --> 03:23:38,200
These namely the ability to 
reason and act in comparison to 

3828
03:23:38,400 --> 03:23:43,300
ideals some having the right to 
own the bodies of others, roll 

3829
03:23:43,300 --> 03:23:49,600
them a monarch or any sort of 
State reject, the human capacity

3830
03:23:49,800 --> 03:23:52,900
to reason and diminishes the 
incentive for the aggressor to 

3831
03:23:52,900 --> 03:23:57,000
act in a beneficial manner. 
Pleasing others while creating a

3832
03:23:57,000 --> 03:23:59,400
world less desirable. 
Imagine. 

3833
03:23:59,400 --> 03:24:03,200
All 30 year olds have the right 
to Monarch or rule, 20 year 

3834
03:24:03,200 --> 03:24:05,000
olds. 
What if Asians have the right to

3835
03:24:05,000 --> 03:24:09,000
rule White's? 
The you could say that there's a

3836
03:24:09,000 --> 03:24:11,500
lot of benefits to some of these
things Asians have higher IQs 

3837
03:24:11,500 --> 03:24:15,700
than whites on maybe a lower 
time preference that doesn't 

3838
03:24:15,700 --> 03:24:20,500
justify us having this one 
sacred life of ours being used 

3839
03:24:20,500 --> 03:24:25,000
as simply. 
The Emir means to to other 

3840
03:24:25,000 --> 03:24:27,800
people, while aggression can be 
beneficial for some at the 

3841
03:24:27,800 --> 03:24:31,500
expense, non Harmony of 
interests of others. 

3842
03:24:31,700 --> 03:24:34,900
Not everyone benefits, if 
Everyone does. 

3843
03:24:34,900 --> 03:24:38,800
So overall the examples would be
standing at a show allows you to

3844
03:24:38,808 --> 03:24:41,200
see better. 
Everyone standing does not allow

3845
03:24:41,200 --> 03:24:45,200
everyone to see better. 
If one person is given a PhD by 

3846
03:24:45,200 --> 03:24:48,000
Harvard that person can make a 
lot of money, if everyone's 

3847
03:24:48,000 --> 03:24:52,200
issued a Harvard Ph.D at Birth, 
then no one's going to be better

3848
03:24:52,200 --> 03:24:54,300
off. 
So, the assumption is, is that 

3849
03:24:54,900 --> 03:24:59,200
if some people can benefit from 
monarchy and some examples. 

3850
03:24:59,400 --> 03:25:01,000
Well, then monarchy is 
beneficial. 

3851
03:25:01,200 --> 03:25:04,600
It does not allow for the 
harmony of Jurists, which allow 

3852
03:25:04,700 --> 03:25:08,300
some people to disassociate, or 
say, give me a better offer. 

3853
03:25:08,300 --> 03:25:10,600
Give me more money. 
Give me something more valuable 

3854
03:25:10,900 --> 03:25:14,000
and then I will trade with you 
Garvin. 

3855
03:25:14,000 --> 03:25:16,800
ISM. 
Does not allow that monarchy 

3856
03:25:17,100 --> 03:25:20,800
doesn't. 
So that is my general claim. 

3857
03:25:21,000 --> 03:25:25,800
That's like my foundational. 
Yeah, opposition to this. 

3858
03:25:25,800 --> 03:25:29,500
What would you say is the main 
reason you are not a monarchist 

3859
03:25:30,500 --> 03:25:32,600
because I don't believe other 
people are my property. 

3860
03:25:34,400 --> 03:25:39,200
Love it. 
Yeah, he also engages in the 

3861
03:25:39,200 --> 03:25:42,800
rule versus the exception 
fallacy. 

3862
03:25:42,900 --> 03:25:46,700
So if I have some examples of 
mass murder leading to good 

3863
03:25:46,700 --> 03:25:50,000
outcomes, so mass murder should 
be widely practiced. 

3864
03:25:50,500 --> 03:25:53,200
What this does is not addressed,
alternative outcomes. 

3865
03:25:53,200 --> 03:25:57,500
Doesn't recognize the rights of 
the murdered nor does it explain

3866
03:25:57,500 --> 03:26:01,600
how this incentivizes future 
behaviors of production or those

3867
03:26:01,800 --> 03:26:05,400
aggressed against So when you 
Advocate something like, never 

3868
03:26:05,400 --> 03:26:09,100
leaving your house or advocating
a monarch with all this power, 

3869
03:26:09,400 --> 03:26:13,400
you're just not appreciating the
value of human life and how 

3870
03:26:13,400 --> 03:26:16,200
complex life can be if we're not
allowed to leave our house. 

3871
03:26:16,600 --> 03:26:21,600
Can we really appreciate the 
Human Condition and the world 

3872
03:26:21,800 --> 03:26:26,200
that the that we live in? 
And then finally, once the 

3873
03:26:26,200 --> 03:26:29,900
Monarch is Empower, you think 
he's going to be reading gray 

3874
03:26:29,900 --> 03:26:34,400
mirror gray with a navy American
way as He would as you'd like me

3875
03:26:34,400 --> 03:26:37,000
to say, they're not going to 
listen to you. 

3876
03:26:37,000 --> 03:26:42,000
They have no incentive. 
So this again is a major 

3877
03:26:42,000 --> 03:26:45,900
shortcoming. 
I that's pretty much all I have.

3878
03:26:45,900 --> 03:26:48,400
As far as criticism go, anything
else. 

3879
03:26:49,000 --> 03:26:51,500
I would just like to say, I 
think the biggest criticism is 

3880
03:26:51,500 --> 03:26:54,000
probably his use of 
equivocation. 

3881
03:26:54,200 --> 03:26:56,700
That's the thing. 
I found most like apparent to 

3882
03:26:56,700 --> 03:26:58,300
me. 
Is that how he would? 

3883
03:26:58,300 --> 03:27:02,700
Equip a quiz that can speak. 
Equivocate power with state? 

3884
03:27:02,900 --> 03:27:05,500
Power, right? 
Which is not a parent when you 

3885
03:27:05,500 --> 03:27:08,400
just say power. 
It doesn't imply state power 

3886
03:27:08,400 --> 03:27:11,800
necessarily and his equivocation
of a governance structure. 

3887
03:27:11,800 --> 03:27:15,400
Like of a person's property like
such as if I have a monarch of 

3888
03:27:15,400 --> 03:27:19,200
great governance structure that 
does not imply that if you apply

3889
03:27:19,200 --> 03:27:21,900
a monarch going governance 
structure to the government. 

3890
03:27:21,900 --> 03:27:24,900
It's in any way going to be 
analogous to a gov of private 

3891
03:27:24,900 --> 03:27:29,900
property governance structure. 
Yeah, yeah, so he finds the 

3892
03:27:29,900 --> 03:27:33,400
exception in monarchy and says 
well, this is the general rule. 

3893
03:27:33,400 --> 03:27:36,300
He then finds the exception in 
the free market and says, this 

3894
03:27:36,300 --> 03:27:42,100
is the general rule, just great 
lessons from Yerevan that I 

3895
03:27:42,108 --> 03:27:45,000
really appreciated. 
Just so people know of these 

3896
03:27:45,000 --> 03:27:48,200
Cathedral, as we mentioned 
earlier deep, deep state public,

3897
03:27:48,200 --> 03:27:49,900
and private is vitally 
interests. 

3898
03:27:49,900 --> 03:27:53,500
You can't just be an NPC who 
says State bad without 

3899
03:27:53,500 --> 03:27:56,700
recognizing their collaborators,
the Press controlled. 

3900
03:27:56,800 --> 03:28:00,300
State concept, vitally and 
important inner and outer party.

3901
03:28:00,300 --> 03:28:02,300
I'm not going to explain these 
but people need to look into 

3902
03:28:02,300 --> 03:28:02,900
him. 
Yeah, there. 

3903
03:28:04,400 --> 03:28:09,000
Oh, I loved this by seeking 
expertise universities came to 

3904
03:28:09,000 --> 03:28:10,700
rule by politicians seeking 
good. 

3905
03:28:10,700 --> 03:28:13,700
Press, the Press came to rule 
that sent. 

3906
03:28:13,700 --> 03:28:15,500
It's just so important. 
Great. 

3907
03:28:15,500 --> 03:28:19,000
Yeah, and I mean, it's like 
every, every regime needs like, 

3908
03:28:19,100 --> 03:28:22,600
some amount of popular support 
to exist every regime even a 

3909
03:28:22,600 --> 03:28:26,200
dictatorship requires some 
either acquiescence or support 

3910
03:28:26,200 --> 03:28:30,100
of the public. 
To remain of course, of course, 

3911
03:28:30,100 --> 03:28:33,300
that's that's what the cold 
Warriors left out, when they 

3912
03:28:33,300 --> 03:28:35,400
thought, well, all we got to do 
is kill the leader of these 

3913
03:28:35,400 --> 03:28:36,900
communist countries, and then 
they're gone. 

3914
03:28:37,200 --> 03:28:41,400
Now, it's in the minds of the 
masses or that's why we we've 

3915
03:28:41,400 --> 03:28:43,200
worked so hard to change that 
public opinion. 

3916
03:28:44,100 --> 03:28:48,100
The next regime which involves 
paying off potential employees 

3917
03:28:48,100 --> 03:28:50,500
loyal to the previous regime, 
you buy their silence. 

3918
03:28:51,300 --> 03:28:55,200
He uses the example of where 
Mach bear mock officers in 

3919
03:28:55,200 --> 03:28:56,600
Germany, still getting a 
pension. 

3920
03:28:57,100 --> 03:29:01,400
That is so important to know 
just how people operate and how 

3921
03:29:01,400 --> 03:29:05,600
you can have a soft cool like 
that. 

3922
03:29:05,600 --> 03:29:08,700
And that sort of change of power
vital white. 

3923
03:29:09,000 --> 03:29:11,300
It's like Hillary Clinton did 
not actually get locked up by 

3924
03:29:11,300 --> 03:29:13,600
Donald Trump, right? 
Because once you do that, then 

3925
03:29:13,600 --> 03:29:16,100
you open the door to old. 
Maybe they'll lock up me next, 

3926
03:29:16,100 --> 03:29:17,700
right? 
So you kind of have this like 

3927
03:29:17,700 --> 03:29:20,200
backdoor, handshake. 
Oh, yeah. 

3928
03:29:21,800 --> 03:29:26,500
He also mentions to get grants 
groups will exaggerated threats.

3929
03:29:26,800 --> 03:29:29,200
So when you're getting money 
from the government, how do you 

3930
03:29:29,200 --> 03:29:30,200
stand out? 
You? 

3931
03:29:30,200 --> 03:29:34,500
Don't say we don't have anything
now, but give us money and we'll

3932
03:29:34,500 --> 03:29:36,900
maybe find something. 
No, you gotta say, there's a 

3933
03:29:36,900 --> 03:29:39,300
virus going to kill people. 
We got to find gain-of-function 

3934
03:29:39,600 --> 03:29:43,800
research that the planets gonna 
freeze and we need global 

3935
03:29:43,800 --> 03:29:45,400
cooling funds. 
We need global warming funds, 

3936
03:29:45,400 --> 03:29:49,200
when climate change funds and 
this creates an oligarchy. 

3937
03:29:49,800 --> 03:29:54,100
Where, who do you go to, to find
the best people in the in 

3938
03:29:54,100 --> 03:29:56,600
medicine? 
We should probably go to the 

3939
03:29:56,700 --> 03:29:59,300
Rows of the Pfizer 
GlaxoSmithKline. 

3940
03:29:59,800 --> 03:30:01,300
Johnston Johnson. 
Okay. 

3941
03:30:01,300 --> 03:30:05,900
Well, then they make the rules 
and this creates a technocracy. 

3942
03:30:06,300 --> 03:30:13,600
That allows that this self God. 
What would you call it? 

3943
03:30:15,000 --> 03:30:17,800
I'm trying to think of the 
regulatory capture term that 

3944
03:30:17,800 --> 03:30:20,800
Anthony Davis uses, but by 
exaggerating threats, they gain 

3945
03:30:20,800 --> 03:30:24,000
power, those involved in the 
industry, make the rules for the

3946
03:30:24,000 --> 03:30:30,300
industry regulatory capture. 
So that's a World logic of how 

3947
03:30:30,400 --> 03:30:33,100
something like regulatory 
capture can exist. 

3948
03:30:33,400 --> 03:30:37,800
Any great lessons from Yerevan 
that people need to appreciate. 

3949
03:30:38,500 --> 03:30:40,600
I think these pretty much nailed
the. 

3950
03:30:40,600 --> 03:30:44,200
These are the exact same. 
I would mention to, yeah, I 

3951
03:30:44,200 --> 03:30:47,200
would just say, if you're on 
Twitter, you can follow me at 

3952
03:30:47,200 --> 03:30:51,400
Ace underscore artist. 
I do want to plug my friends 

3953
03:30:51,400 --> 03:30:56,200
store neophyte gear.com, my 
friend Greg made a story if 

3954
03:30:56,200 --> 03:31:00,000
you're Into like 3D printing or 
like 3D printing you like gun 

3955
03:31:00,000 --> 03:31:04,000
accessories, gun parts, stuff 
like that, anything from that 

3956
03:31:04,000 --> 03:31:06,100
took manuals. 
So even hot sauce. 

3957
03:31:06,500 --> 03:31:08,600
If you don't have enough money 
to spend on some of the more 

3958
03:31:08,600 --> 03:31:13,300
expensive stuff on the store 
checkout, neophyte gear.com, and

3959
03:31:13,400 --> 03:31:15,600
I would just say Keith. 
Thank you so much for inviting 

3960
03:31:15,600 --> 03:31:18,300
me. 
Well, thanks everyone for 

3961
03:31:18,800 --> 03:31:22,500
sticking with us. 
Hopefully, thanks for watching 

3962
03:31:22,700 --> 03:31:25,300
the libertarian Institute and 
don't tread on anyone. 

3963
03:31:25,500 --> 03:31:26,900
Ace, brother. 
Thank you for your Time. 

3964
03:31:26,900 --> 03:31:28,000
Thank you so much, Keith.