1 00:00:00,300 --> 00:00:03,500 Hunter two runs as communications director at bring 2 00:00:03,500 --> 00:00:06,100 our troops home. He's the editor at the 3 00:00:06,100 --> 00:00:10,000 libertarian Institute and a regular contributor, to the 4 00:00:10,100 --> 00:00:13,700 American, conservative Hunter, thank you for your time, happy 5 00:00:13,700 --> 00:00:14,900 to be here. Keith, thanks so much for 6 00:00:14,900 --> 00:00:19,100 inviting me, of course ma'am. What was the nie committee? 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,100 So the nie committee was named after Central, Gary Oldman, I 8 00:00:24,100 --> 00:00:27,500 who was a republican from North Dakota, he was a very 9 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:29,900 Progressive Republican and the Robert La Follette. 10 00:00:30,100 --> 00:00:37,100 Action think populist Pro farmer anti big Corporation somewhat 11 00:00:37,100 --> 00:00:40,900 anti-big government anti-corruption very much 12 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:45,000 populist style in the interwar period. 13 00:00:45,100 --> 00:00:49,600 And the nine committee was the Congressional investigation that 14 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:55,600 he chaired from 1934 to 1936 investigating War profiteering 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:59,600 and the actions of large weapons manufacturers during World War 16 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:00,200 One. One. 17 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,200 He and the committee where he was joined by five other 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:08,500 Senators including champ, Clark of Missouri, a Democrat and 19 00:01:08,500 --> 00:01:11,700 Homer T-Bone of Washington state and other Democrat. 20 00:01:12,100 --> 00:01:16,400 They investigated places like JPMorgan to DuPont Brothers 21 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,100 investigating, their profit margins during the war. 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:23,400 And if as was widely believed at the time, their pernicious 23 00:01:23,400 --> 00:01:28,300 influence in DC and among the government was participatory 24 00:01:28,300 --> 00:01:30,700 cause for us entry into World War One. 25 00:01:32,100 --> 00:01:34,900 What were some of the conclusions that they find that 26 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:39,600 there was an actual sway in pulling the Americans into 27 00:01:39,700 --> 00:01:42,200 changing public opinion and to supporting the war? 28 00:01:42,500 --> 00:01:45,800 Or was it just that the interest happened to a line? 29 00:01:47,300 --> 00:01:51,300 The committee uncovered a lot of skullduggery and a lot of 30 00:01:51,300 --> 00:01:55,400 malfeasance on the part of these companies including things like 31 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:00,300 undercutting International Peace conferences. 32 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:03,500 Bribing foreign officials particularly in South America 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:07,200 funding, both sides of Border disputes and other minor 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,300 military conflicts throughout the world. 35 00:02:09,300 --> 00:02:11,000 So they uncovered a lot of things when they were 36 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,000 investigating the records and histories of these companies 37 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:15,800 using the Congressional subpoena power. 38 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,800 But they weren't On. They were unable to definitively 39 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,900 prove the primary thesis that the weapons companies got us 40 00:02:22,900 --> 00:02:27,600 into the war and even nine himself as much as inflammatory 41 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:31,600 as he was, as a speaker, and as a thinker, even he admitted that 42 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,200 the thesis probably bit off a little more than it could chew, 43 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,500 they found that the military contractors, at least. 44 00:02:38,500 --> 00:02:41,100 And this is speaking purely about turn of the century. 45 00:02:41,100 --> 00:02:45,800 America and up to 1914, did not have significant lobbying firms. 46 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:49,700 In d.c. see any larger than say any other lobbying groups such 47 00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:55,200 as Farmers or any other special interest but that it is was a 48 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:01,100 contributing factor and that the participation of JPMorgan other 49 00:03:01,100 --> 00:03:04,400 leading Bankers being guarantee years of financial loans, to 50 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,400 Great Britain and France and their encouragement of the 51 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:11,200 Wilson Administration to allow them to do this and sort of 52 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,200 introducing the route by which the United States, became a 53 00:03:14,208 --> 00:03:17,800 co-belligerent in World War 1 prior to Only entering the war 54 00:03:18,000 --> 00:03:21,200 that this all sort of Grease, the skids and contributed to it. 55 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:24,400 Although obviously world will want a very complex situation 56 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:28,600 with multiple reasons for us entry and this was one of 57 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:33,900 several, but I think it does speak to the fact that there was 58 00:03:33,900 --> 00:03:37,400 such that there was such public interest in this issue and such 59 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:41,600 a widespread public willingness to investigate arms 60 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,800 manufacturers and ask the questions of, oh, are the people 61 00:03:45,900 --> 00:03:50,400 making enormous profits off of the war making enormous profits 62 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:54,600 off the killing and death of US soldiers participating in these 63 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:57,600 conflicts, is there something pernicious going on here? 64 00:03:57,700 --> 00:03:59,800 Is there something, the public should be involved in the 65 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,100 public, should be aware of. So I think it's just the fact 66 00:04:02,100 --> 00:04:03,200 that they were asking those questions. 67 00:04:03,300 --> 00:04:06,500 Students and that gay road, I was able to have the leeway to 68 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:10,700 hold these investigations host, dozens of committees. 69 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:15,400 Call people to testify issue and use the subpoena power and get 70 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,200 what is to this day. The best most transparent. 71 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:22,500 Look at the internal functioning of weapons. 72 00:04:22,500 --> 00:04:25,900 Manufacturers, in all of history, I think it's very 73 00:04:25,900 --> 00:04:30,700 important as an investigation, and as a landmark in American 74 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:34,400 history and in the congressional power. even if it wasn't fully 75 00:04:34,400 --> 00:04:40,700 able to prove its thesis at Circa 1936 at least, What can 76 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:42,300 people learn from People Like Us. 77 00:04:42,300 --> 00:04:46,400 Smedley Butler and Dwight D, Eisenhower's military-industrial 78 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:50,500 complex references. I think that they can learn that 79 00:04:50,500 --> 00:04:55,300 there is at least among some may be all for all we know 80 00:04:56,000 --> 00:05:01,200 self-awareness at the top of the military, brass the generals we 81 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:05,800 see on TV who become CNN commentators who testified 82 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,600 before Congress asking for these increased budgets. 83 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:12,600 We can guess that they know what they're doing. 84 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:17,100 They know and witness that the u.s. government is spending 85 00:05:17,100 --> 00:05:20,900 currently tens of billions reaching into the hundreds of 86 00:05:20,900 --> 00:05:25,500 billions of dollars on these weapons programs to receive 87 00:05:25,500 --> 00:05:28,000 weapons and other technological material. 88 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:33,500 That is not up to par that regularly fails its testing, but 89 00:05:33,500 --> 00:05:38,300 earns a profit for these private contractors and guarantees and 90 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:42,200 eventual job. And nice pension plan for these 91 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,300 retired officers. So I think when you have people 92 00:05:45,300 --> 00:05:50,100 like Smedley Butler Major General of the US Marine Corps, 93 00:05:50,100 --> 00:05:51,800 and of course, Dwight the Eisenhower not only 94 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,700 commander-in-chief, but former commander of the entirety of 95 00:05:55,700 --> 00:06:00,000 u.s. military forces in Europe, during World War Two five-star. 96 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,800 The fact that they are able to see these connotations and 97 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:08,300 really see the system, I think the only thing that makes them 98 00:06:09,100 --> 00:06:11,700 stand out from the other General is that they're willing to be 99 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:14,300 public about it, that they're willing to speak out and sort of 100 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:18,300 reveal and I'll pull the curtain behind and let us see inside of, 101 00:06:18,300 --> 00:06:20,600 hey, this is how things actually work. 102 00:06:20,700 --> 00:06:24,300 I'm telling you about it, I'm warning you about it, but I 103 00:06:24,300 --> 00:06:28,800 think it's representative of the fact that all of these people on 104 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,400 top know what's going on. And it's, it's actually a 105 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:38,100 personal pet peeve of mine when people who Pose are enormous 106 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:41,200 military budget to fund the Empire people who describe 107 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,600 themselves as non interventionists, people who say 108 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:47,400 they oppose the war machine located, in the Imperial City of 109 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:51,900 Washington, d.c. that. It's just a matter of these guys 110 00:06:51,900 --> 00:06:55,400 don't know what they're doing. If only we can educate them or 111 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,700 why does it seem Keith that all of these people when they talk 112 00:06:58,700 --> 00:07:02,000 to us really seem that they're arguing in bad faith, they're 113 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,100 calling us names or not really taking a seriously you and I are 114 00:07:05,100 --> 00:07:07,600 making such codes And points. Why aren't they listening? 115 00:07:07,900 --> 00:07:12,200 It's for the fact that their entire financial livelihoods and 116 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,500 all of the respect, they are given by the public rests on 117 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:19,700 this current system. And anyone who dares threatened 118 00:07:19,700 --> 00:07:24,200 that system who wants to tip over the apple cart, where five 119 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:28,400 giant International corporations like Northrop, Grumman like 120 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:32,600 Lockheed Martin or raking in billions and billions of dollars 121 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,900 off the taxpayer and off the sacrifices of America. 122 00:07:36,100 --> 00:07:39,500 Soldiers, any possible threat to that, they're going to come down 123 00:07:39,500 --> 00:07:43,300 on like a ton of bricks, they will slander, they will 124 00:07:43,300 --> 00:07:46,900 discredit, they will lie about, they will come after you, and 125 00:07:46,900 --> 00:07:49,300 I'm sure we'll get that into more details of that later in 126 00:07:49,300 --> 00:07:53,900 the conversation because they are, well, aware of how the 127 00:07:53,900 --> 00:07:57,000 system profits them. They're well aware of how good 128 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,500 they have it and they recognize people like you and I as a 129 00:08:00,508 --> 00:08:04,600 threat and I think it's a very important conception for people 130 00:08:04,600 --> 00:08:08,100 who agree with you and I Hi and agree that we need a dramatic 131 00:08:08,100 --> 00:08:11,300 reassessment of u.s. foreign policy priorities to understand. 132 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:15,300 The article that I am referencing here is titled 133 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:18,800 merchants of death from the night committee to Joe Kent. 134 00:08:18,900 --> 00:08:22,100 The fight against war. Profiteering is a constant 135 00:08:22,100 --> 00:08:23,800 struggle. Anything people should know 136 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:29,900 about Joe Kent. Joe Kent is a former Green Beret 137 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,900 who served many, many years in the US military, including 138 00:08:35,100 --> 00:08:36,700 deployments to Iraq and Afghanistan. 139 00:08:36,700 --> 00:08:40,500 I believe he is currently a Congressional candidate endorsed 140 00:08:40,500 --> 00:08:43,400 by Donald Trump. Running in Washington state. 141 00:08:43,900 --> 00:08:46,900 The other month, you won his primary against an incumbent 142 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:51,600 Republican, and he is likely to be the next congressman from 143 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,800 that District. I spoke with him about this 144 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:58,100 interview because he is one of the few candidates currently 145 00:08:58,100 --> 00:09:01,200 who's actually making it a point to use the term military 146 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,800 industrial complex is one of the few people we currently see on 147 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:09,700 the ballot in the 2022 elections who's actively decrying the 148 00:09:09,700 --> 00:09:13,000 prophets and the Moline mode Asians that comes from these 149 00:09:13,000 --> 00:09:17,200 weapons companies and I asked him flat out if given the 150 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,200 possibility or given the opportunity, would you be 151 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:24,600 interested and are willing to host a 21st century version of 152 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,200 the nigh committee to investigate these companies and 153 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,300 try to hold them to account from his new standpoint in Congress 154 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:33,700 and his response was yes absolutely with no hesitation 155 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:36,500 and I feel very encouraged by that personally. 156 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:43,200 There was a book titled room, 40 British Naval intelligence, 1914 157 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:48,000 to 1918 by Patrick Beasley. He says, I am reluctantly driven 158 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,500 to the conclusion that there was a conspiracy to put the 159 00:09:51,500 --> 00:09:56,600 Lusitania at risk in the hopes that even an abortive attack on 160 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,200 her would bring the United States into war. 161 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:02,500 Are you familiar with, with this thesis? 162 00:10:02,900 --> 00:10:07,300 I am Do you want to believe there is any credibility to it? 163 00:10:08,000 --> 00:10:12,300 I do. I think it's readily believed by 164 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:14,900 most historians at this point, or, at least has to be 165 00:10:14,900 --> 00:10:19,200 recognized that the situation of the Lusitania, which was a 166 00:10:19,900 --> 00:10:24,600 British ship carrying many civilians, including hundreds of 167 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:30,600 American civilians in 1915. That it was also carrying 168 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:33,800 weapons of war to be used in the British. 169 00:10:33,900 --> 00:10:37,200 War effort and that there were numerous public warnings from 170 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:42,400 the German the German government to that warning Americans, not 171 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:45,400 to get on these sort of British ships because they would be 172 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:51,000 treated by the German military as part of the war effort and 173 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:55,800 within the laws of war, legally able to sync and that's what 174 00:10:55,800 --> 00:10:58,300 happened. When excuse me, a German 175 00:10:58,300 --> 00:11:01,800 submarine sank the Lusitania, there was an enormous explosion 176 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:04,900 not just from the torpedo but because As they ignited, all of 177 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:07,800 the weapons on board the ship. And that was one of the main 178 00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:12,900 discussions about American entry into World War 1, where you have 179 00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:16,400 very, very slim minority led by Secretary of State, William 180 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,300 Jennings Bryan. Saying, if United States is 181 00:11:19,300 --> 00:11:22,200 going to keep out of this war, we have to practice true 182 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:27,500 neutrality and that means recognizing that during or in 183 00:11:27,500 --> 00:11:31,000 areas where there is active Naval conflict between Great 184 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:33,800 Britain and Germany that Americans have to tread lightly. 185 00:11:33,900 --> 00:11:36,900 Lee, when they go past the territorial Waters of the United 186 00:11:36,900 --> 00:11:40,000 States and in many cases, take their lives into their own 187 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,500 hands, because that is merely the risk of going into a war 188 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:46,500 zone where as it became the position of Woodrow, Wilson and 189 00:11:46,500 --> 00:11:50,400 many other Americans, that the America that the United States 190 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:55,800 and her citizens, as allegedly neutral power had the right to 191 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,900 go anywhere and seemingly do anything at whatever amount of 192 00:11:59,900 --> 00:12:03,700 risk because that's was incumbent. 193 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:05,300 Adonis. And it was believed to be, all 194 00:12:05,300 --> 00:12:07,500 right? And then you have either firmer 195 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:10,500 extremists, Theodore Roosevelt like Theodore Roosevelt, former 196 00:12:10,500 --> 00:12:13,400 president, who just wanted to get into the war immediately for 197 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:19,700 any reason but now I think it's a yes I think it's very well 198 00:12:19,700 --> 00:12:22,800 acknowledged by modern historians that the Lusitania. 199 00:12:23,700 --> 00:12:26,400 Wow, there might be disagreements on whether or not 200 00:12:27,100 --> 00:12:30,100 American neutral rights. Whether that was a Justified 201 00:12:30,100 --> 00:12:33,000 reason for entering the war or whether it was reasonable 202 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,700 position to take That the British government and Winston 203 00:12:36,700 --> 00:12:39,500 Churchill in particular, is I believe at the time, first Lord 204 00:12:39,500 --> 00:12:43,700 of the admiralty was very much in favor of using incidents, 205 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:47,700 like the Lusitania to drift the United States in the war because 206 00:12:47,700 --> 00:12:49,600 that was in the interests of Great Britain. 207 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:53,200 They wanted the Americans to come in, not just with their 208 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,100 troops. But particularly with increased 209 00:12:55,100 --> 00:12:58,400 loans and better finances to fund the British war effort, and 210 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,600 the Lusitania was a way to make that happen and it's a 211 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:03,000 situation. We've witnessed all throughout 212 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,600 American history. We from the Mexican American War 213 00:13:05,600 --> 00:13:09,300 to World War 1 and World War 2 and Beyond where American 214 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:13,400 presidents and foreign governments, either collaborate 215 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:18,200 explicitly or just see an inherent alignment of interests 216 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:22,500 to create incidents and other scenarios that are more likely 217 00:13:22,500 --> 00:13:25,000 to draw the United States government and convince the 218 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,800 American people to participate in a foreign war. 219 00:13:28,900 --> 00:13:32,500 Yeah, I want to say it was in late 1914. 220 00:13:32,700 --> 00:13:37,200 When Churchill was Lord of the admiralty and he initiated the 221 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:42,600 blockade around Germany, which a very favorable historian, Martin 222 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:46,600 Gilbert, a favorable towards Churchill estimates. 223 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,000 That something in the hundreds of thousands of women and 224 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:53,400 children died as a cause of result of not being able to 225 00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:57,200 trade or get access to food and other medicines. 226 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,900 At the time I want to put and that was one of the arguments 227 00:14:00,900 --> 00:14:04,200 that was put forward by Brian and the others who Leave that 228 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:07,400 United States should remain neutral and hold both sides to 229 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:09,800 account. The fact that we are demanding 230 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,400 of the German government, that Americans ought to be free to 231 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,500 travel safely and international waters. 232 00:14:15,500 --> 00:14:18,400 Aboard British ships travel to Great, Britain and participate 233 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,100 in trade, but there was no demands by the American 234 00:14:21,100 --> 00:14:22,400 government or by the White House. 235 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Being made upon the British government to allow Americans to 236 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,800 bypass the British blockade travel to Germany trade with 237 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:31,300 Germany. It was a completely one-sided 238 00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:34,200 demand because at this point already, the Nation. 239 00:14:34,200 --> 00:14:37,700 And to be fair, in very large, part of the American population. 240 00:14:37,900 --> 00:14:42,400 Started, World War One in full. Sympathy with the and taunt with 241 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:48,400 the British and French. The notice by the Imperial 242 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,200 German Embassy was actually published. 243 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:55,400 In American newspapers saying, Travelers intending to embark on 244 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,800 the Atlantic Voyage are reminded that a state of War exists 245 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:03,800 between Germany and her allies. Great Britain it goes on, but 246 00:15:04,000 --> 00:15:09,500 these documents can be found one citation that I use is Page 432 247 00:15:09,700 --> 00:15:11,900 of the intimate papers of Colonel house. 248 00:15:12,100 --> 00:15:14,700 This was actually published by Yale University. 249 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:19,900 I believe the year is 1928. It says on the morning of May 250 00:15:19,900 --> 00:15:24,800 7th house, Colonel Edward house Wilson's right-hand man and 251 00:15:24,900 --> 00:15:29,200 Edward grey drove out to Q. We spoke of the possibility of 252 00:15:29,200 --> 00:15:32,200 an ocean liner, being sunk recorded house. 253 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:36,100 And I told him if this were done a flame of indignation would 254 00:15:36,100 --> 00:15:40,500 sweep Across America, which would in itself, probably carry 255 00:15:40,500 --> 00:15:44,100 us into the war an hour later house was with King George and 256 00:15:44,100 --> 00:15:48,100 Buckingham Alice, we fell to talking strangely enough, the 257 00:15:48,100 --> 00:15:52,600 colonel wrote that night of the probability of Germany sinking, 258 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,600 a transatlantic liner he said suppose they should sink the 259 00:15:56,600 --> 00:16:00,700 Lusitania with American passengers on board. 260 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:05,000 So the reason that I use this as because Yale published this in 261 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:08,100 the late 1920s, in reference to Colonel house. 262 00:16:08,300 --> 00:16:11,200 I looked for retractions, I look for clarifications, there's a 263 00:16:11,208 --> 00:16:14,600 very high likelihood that there was a general understanding that 264 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:20,200 we Do a b and c and provoke, a war and change public opinion in 265 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,600 such a way. Finally lesson, what are some 266 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,800 lessons from World War one that we can extract? 267 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,700 I mean, we had military conscription one of the worst 268 00:16:30,700 --> 00:16:34,400 forms of forced labor. America alone had 117 thousand 269 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,500 deaths. Not to mention something like 10 270 00:16:36,500 --> 00:16:39,700 million deaths across Europe. What are some lessons we can 271 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:43,600 take from World War one? Before I describe the lessons, I 272 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:48,200 wanted to include And this other quote, which I find very 273 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:50,700 Illuminating about the situation when it comes to American 274 00:16:50,700 --> 00:16:53,900 neutrality and the ability of American citizens to travel 275 00:16:53,900 --> 00:16:57,100 overseas because it's a very I think popular opinion even 276 00:16:57,100 --> 00:17:01,300 currently that the United States and Americans really have the 277 00:17:01,300 --> 00:17:04,700 right to do anything in the world and that all other 278 00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:07,800 countries, all other governments must tread very softly when it 279 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:11,000 comes to dealing with American citizens and I believe the 280 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:13,400 United States government, it's their responsibility to do, 281 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,800 whatever it can to keep. Her citizens, if they go 282 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:18,900 overseas, if they're gone to the trouble with foreign 283 00:17:18,900 --> 00:17:23,400 governments, to keep them safe and find an amicable solution to 284 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,300 that. But I'd like to quote Senator, 285 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:29,500 John J, Blaine of Wisconsin, who is a very truculent and 286 00:17:29,500 --> 00:17:31,600 Progressive? Republican in the 1920s. 287 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,600 He said, that no American citizen has a right to 288 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:38,000 jeopardize the peace and honor of his country for gain for 289 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:41,200 pleasure for adventure. And I think that's an important 290 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:45,600 way to look at it and that even though the government has a 291 00:17:45,608 --> 00:17:48,900 responsibility to look after her citizens and find Solutions, 292 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:52,600 it's also the duty of citizens. When we go overseas, to not 293 00:17:52,600 --> 00:17:56,900 imperil, our neighbors, our countrymen, our nation, into 294 00:17:56,900 --> 00:18:01,300 these wars, on our behalf. And when we do that, we really 295 00:18:01,300 --> 00:18:04,600 are taking our lives into our own hand in those situations. 296 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,700 But to answer your question about lessons from World War 1. 297 00:18:07,700 --> 00:18:11,500 I think the biggest and probably the one most applicable right 298 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:20,100 now is that As Americans, we are born with extreme privilege, in 299 00:18:20,100 --> 00:18:24,200 the sense of we are so geographically and politically 300 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,400 separated from the rest of the world. 301 00:18:26,700 --> 00:18:32,000 It is not our problem to have to find out solutions to the rest 302 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:36,000 of the world's problems as an American you and I can sit here 303 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,500 and say, oh, there's a border dispute in Africa, a, which side 304 00:18:39,500 --> 00:18:41,900 am I on? I don't have to care. 305 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,000 It doesn't involve me. We're Very lucky in that fact to 306 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,400 be separated by the rest of the World by two enormous oceans and 307 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,300 being able to decide our own fate and yet and this was 308 00:18:52,300 --> 00:18:55,000 something, you know, easily recognized by George Washington, 309 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:56,900 Thomas Jefferson. And the other founding fathers 310 00:18:56,900 --> 00:19:00,400 as a blessing to being born an American, and yet we have people 311 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:05,400 right now, people who on paper or as American as you, and I who 312 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:08,700 are saying, oh this border dispute between Ukraine and 313 00:19:08,700 --> 00:19:11,600 Russia, these problems in Eastern Europe or this problem 314 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:14,700 in the Middle East. Do this reform, Movement and 315 00:19:14,700 --> 00:19:16,700 protest and Iran. Whose side are we on? 316 00:19:16,700 --> 00:19:20,300 What should we do as Americans? We should be able to say. 317 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,300 It's not my fight, it's not my problem, it's not my issue. 318 00:19:24,300 --> 00:19:28,100 It's not my land, it's not my people, it's not anything to do 319 00:19:28,100 --> 00:19:30,700 with me. I don't have to have an opinion. 320 00:19:30,700 --> 00:19:33,000 I don't have to have an answer, I don't have to choose a side, 321 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,000 that's my right as an American and I think that's something 322 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,400 that the country really tried to learn after World War 1, where 323 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:45,500 we, as I mentioned earlier, in 1914, the war Up with most of 324 00:19:45,500 --> 00:19:48,500 the American public being more sympathetic to the young talent 325 00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:50,800 and favoring. Even if they didn't want to get 326 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,400 involved, specifically favoring a victory of Britain and France 327 00:19:54,400 --> 00:19:57,800 over Germany. Mostly through cultural and 328 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:02,100 other such informal ties. But then after World War 1 and 329 00:20:02,100 --> 00:20:04,800 witnessing, the death destruction and the costs, which 330 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,300 you named the American population during the interwar 331 00:20:08,300 --> 00:20:13,400 period realized that blessing that I described that we the 332 00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:15,700 problems of Europe, don't have to concern us. 333 00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:19,100 If we don't choose to when we get involved, it's not an 334 00:20:19,100 --> 00:20:21,500 inevitability. It's not because it's our 335 00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:23,900 destiny. It's not because it's our job. 336 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,800 It's a policy decision made by people in Washington. 337 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:32,400 D.c. who I believe, don't have the best interests of the nation 338 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:35,100 at heart. And so that I think that's the 339 00:20:35,100 --> 00:20:38,300 primary lesson of world war one. That just because we see a 340 00:20:38,300 --> 00:20:42,000 problem elsewhere, doesn't mean we have to make it our business. 341 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,000 And when we do, it's not in That ability. 342 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,300 It's a choice. That I think is so vitally 343 00:20:48,300 --> 00:20:50,300 important. It's like there's almost no 344 00:20:50,300 --> 00:20:56,000 basic humility when it comes to the issues of overseas, it's 345 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,000 like, okay, do we have the proper amount of knowledge about 346 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,300 the situation, do the people who are going to be delegated to 347 00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:04,200 having the responsibility to solving it. 348 00:21:04,300 --> 00:21:08,600 Have an incentive to make the problem Better, or Worse? 349 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,100 What is the reputation of the people who will be given the 350 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:14,500 power to quote, solve this situation? 351 00:21:14,500 --> 00:21:19,900 And do they have the ability to I mean, if murder rates are 352 00:21:19,900 --> 00:21:24,100 increasing in places like California, Illinois and New 353 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:26,700 York. I don't see how we can keep 354 00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:30,800 Taiwan safe. As the old quote says, he who 355 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,300 tries to be a friend to all is in the end, a friend to none. 356 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:38,300 And he who tries to defend everyone defends, no one in the 357 00:21:38,300 --> 00:21:41,800 end. It's it's just too much but I 358 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:45,800 still think we can always have this principle of objective 359 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,500 truth and say You know what, I would have to look into the 360 00:21:49,500 --> 00:21:53,300 situation a little more. I don't know the specifics, but 361 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:58,000 we, we oppose people, who anyone who initiates, violence against 362 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,800 peaceful people? Is it happening in Israel or 363 00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:04,300 Ukraine or Nigeria? I might have to look into those 364 00:22:04,300 --> 00:22:07,900 details but that is the principle with which I stand 365 00:22:07,900 --> 00:22:10,200 firm on. And that's why I love the work 366 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,500 at the libertarian Institute that that we do. 367 00:22:14,100 --> 00:22:17,800 The article merchants of death is actually going The part of a 368 00:22:18,300 --> 00:22:21,500 larger compilation from what I hear tell us about that. 369 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:25,700 Yes the American conservative magazine is coming forth with a 370 00:22:25,708 --> 00:22:28,800 new Anthology Book. It's out in November 15th, it's 371 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,900 called Main Street, conservatism the future of the right. 372 00:22:32,100 --> 00:22:36,900 And so compendium of the best of Articles from the magazine of 373 00:22:36,900 --> 00:22:39,900 the past 20 years, the American get served is coming up on its 374 00:22:40,100 --> 00:22:44,300 20-year anniversary ever since it was founded in 2002 by Pat 375 00:22:44,300 --> 00:22:46,600 Buchanan, others to opposed the Iraq War. 376 00:22:46,700 --> 00:22:50,300 Or, and this new Anthology will include best of articles on 377 00:22:50,500 --> 00:22:54,300 foreign policy on culture on their economic views, Etc. 378 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:56,900 And I'm happy to say that. My article merchants of death 379 00:22:56,900 --> 00:23:00,000 will be included in the Anthology and I encourage 380 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,500 everyone to pre-order the book on Amazon. 381 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:05,600 Again, that's out November 15th, look up Main Street, 382 00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,700 conservatism order yourself a copy. 383 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:09,700 I'm sure you'll make a great Christmas gift and, you know, 384 00:23:09,700 --> 00:23:12,200 just dog-ear the page where my article starts. 385 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,200 So, you know, that people read that first. 386 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,700 You wrote another article, The Campaign to lie, America into 387 00:23:19,700 --> 00:23:21,900 World War Two before Pearl Harbor. 388 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:26,400 There was an elaborate British influence operation of forged 389 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,900 documents fake news and manipulation. 390 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:34,700 What is your thesis and justification for such an 391 00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:40,100 article? My thesis is actually a 392 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:42,900 tried-and-true one. This one has been around for 393 00:23:43,100 --> 00:23:47,600 several decades base. He just pointing out, not even 394 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:50,600 alleging just laying forth, the facts that the British 395 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:56,600 government involved itself in extremely large, influential and 396 00:23:56,600 --> 00:24:01,900 successful propaganda operation in 1941 in the lead-up to us 397 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:07,800 entry into World War Two, prior to the backdoor, to War through 398 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:10,700 Pearl Harbor, and through the Pacific that the British 399 00:24:10,700 --> 00:24:14,000 government wanted to increase American Sympathy for the Allied 400 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,000 powers in. Increase American interest in 401 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,900 participating in the war and sort of turn the tables because 402 00:24:20,900 --> 00:24:25,200 start going into 1941 huge majority of American population. 403 00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:29,600 Had learned the lessons of world war one, which I just mentioned 404 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,500 that we did not want to get involved in a second world war. 405 00:24:32,500 --> 00:24:37,400 We did not want to come save, John bowls bacon once again, we 406 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:42,400 just wanted to keep to ourselves and not suffer the enormous 407 00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,900 financial and costs in blood. That we did during World War 1, 408 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,900 the British government recognized this recognize that 409 00:24:49,900 --> 00:24:52,300 once again, it was in their interest to get the United 410 00:24:52,300 --> 00:24:56,900 States involved and you spent an enormous amount of money and 411 00:24:56,900 --> 00:25:02,200 diplomatic cover to create an operation located right here in 412 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,800 the United States in Rockefeller Center to propagandas, the 413 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:11,300 American people and do several things that included creating 414 00:25:11,300 --> 00:25:17,200 fake news stories in overseas. Russians and sending them to 415 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,300 domestic American Publications and newspapers where they were 416 00:25:20,300 --> 00:25:23,100 reprinted. These are stories favorable to 417 00:25:23,100 --> 00:25:25,500 the British war effort to make it look like, they were winning 418 00:25:25,500 --> 00:25:31,500 the war at the time. It is also involved in large, 419 00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:38,200 part defaming decrying lying about smearing America First 420 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,600 leaders, including Gerald, my as isolationists, you know, 421 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:47,400 favorite term created. Then and still used today, to 422 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,800 refer to people who oppose aggressive War, Broad and 423 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:55,100 Universal military Empire. And the idea that they were 424 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,300 German sympathetic opposition, instead of being the 425 00:25:58,300 --> 00:26:01,900 pro-american opposition, the allegation that they were 426 00:26:01,908 --> 00:26:04,700 receiving money from Nazi Germany, which is still 427 00:26:04,700 --> 00:26:09,100 something you here called about today and equivalence relation 428 00:26:09,100 --> 00:26:13,800 between the America First committee as domestic and 429 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,400 wholesome. And Ation. 430 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,600 As I was, whatever was ever found in this country, being 431 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,400 made comparable to the German American bun, which was just a 432 00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:28,200 Nazi stand-in. And all of these things, helping 433 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,700 to engineer the public attitudes against the position of America 434 00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:35,200 First, and being more sympathetic, to it being 435 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,400 involved in the war. And of course, probably most 436 00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:43,000 importantly actually forging documents to be given to the 437 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,900 administration to a And the Roosevelt administration's and 438 00:26:46,900 --> 00:26:50,900 the White House's push to get the United States involved in 439 00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:54,100 the war and that, including foraging to document. 440 00:26:54,100 --> 00:27:00,700 Specifically one was alleged plan by Nazi Germany to conquer 441 00:27:00,700 --> 00:27:04,500 South America and lay forth all these new German colonies, which 442 00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:09,700 they would then use to threaten the United States and new plan 443 00:27:09,700 --> 00:27:14,200 by Hitler that alleged they would abolish all the world's 444 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:20,800 religions Hinduism Christianity, Islam, everything and create a 445 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:23,600 new religion based around. Hitler in the swastika. 446 00:27:23,900 --> 00:27:28,800 These were documents that we know in arguably uncontroverted 447 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:33,600 Lee were produced by the British government as fake news and 448 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,800 passed to the White House and that Roosevelt used in a 449 00:27:37,808 --> 00:27:42,800 well-publicized speech in the fall of 1941 to help sway 450 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,000 American public opinion to become. 451 00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:48,700 More interested in joining the war effort and see Nazi Germany, 452 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,500 more of a military threat than they arguably worth the time. 453 00:27:53,300 --> 00:27:56,800 And I'll a fourth, the case in the article, which is would be 454 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,400 disputed on whether or not Roosevelt knowingly, used false 455 00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,000 documents. I believe the evidence is very 456 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,200 strong that he completely knew what he was doing. 457 00:28:05,500 --> 00:28:08,900 But there I'm sure there's other arguments saying, being unable 458 00:28:08,900 --> 00:28:13,200 to know the full inner workings of FDR's, mind that he was just 459 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,700 as duped as every as Everyone else and people can read the 460 00:28:16,708 --> 00:28:18,200 piece and find out for themselves. 461 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,700 But this isn't an argument that still goes on today. 462 00:28:21,700 --> 00:28:25,600 I remember just being a kid and watching a special on the 463 00:28:25,608 --> 00:28:31,400 History Channel where they talked about finding talked 464 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:36,400 about FDR speech and the German plans to invade South America or 465 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:40,400 how and Hitler's bunker. When American troops went in, 466 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:44,200 they found a globe with a swastika drawn over South 467 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,400 America. Use of the plans to, you know, 468 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,900 take over and you know it's all bunk. 469 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,000 None of it's true. It's all just War propaganda 470 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,300 that because it served the interests of the 471 00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:59,300 internationalists of the interventionists that was never 472 00:28:59,300 --> 00:29:01,300 really debunked in the public mind. 473 00:29:01,300 --> 00:29:04,500 Even though we have the archival records, we have the research, 474 00:29:04,500 --> 00:29:08,200 we have the Memoirs, we have all the information to prove what it 475 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,100 is and they can't argue it so they'd rather just not bring it 476 00:29:11,100 --> 00:29:13,100 up. So even though the thesis of my 477 00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:16,500 article is B tried and true. Through not original to me. 478 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,300 I think I was very happy to write the piece just to get the 479 00:29:19,300 --> 00:29:23,500 information more out there in the public mind and put it to 480 00:29:23,500 --> 00:29:26,800 people our age. And just everyone today that 481 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,700 these arguments and this history is important because the same 482 00:29:30,700 --> 00:29:34,800 things that happened back then or in all likelihood still going 483 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:39,000 on right now. There is a book published in 484 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:45,300 1947 titled Pearl Harbor. The story of the secret War by 485 00:29:45,300 --> 00:29:49,200 George Morgenstern. It says, in his diary entry of 486 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:54,500 November 25th 13 days before, Pearl Harbor Stimson, referring 487 00:29:54,500 --> 00:29:57,300 to Henry Stimson. The Secretary of War expressed 488 00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:00,800 The Dilemma in the baldest terms, describing the war 489 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,300 cabinet meeting in the white house. 490 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,900 He stated there the president brought up entirely the 491 00:30:05,900 --> 00:30:08,200 relations. The Japanese he brought up the 492 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,900 event that they were likely to be that we were likely to be 493 00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:14,300 attacked perhaps as soon as next Monday. 494 00:30:14,500 --> 00:30:17,700 For the Japanese are notorious for making an attack without 495 00:30:17,700 --> 00:30:21,600 warning and the question was what we should do. 496 00:30:21,700 --> 00:30:25,800 The question was how we should maneuver them into the position 497 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:29,800 of firing the first shot without allowing too much danger to 498 00:30:30,100 --> 00:30:32,900 ourselves? And that's why Hawaii was such a 499 00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:36,200 convenient location because it was not in America. 500 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,900 A state at the time it was more of a colony or just a 501 00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:43,200 geographical in that had a base on it. 502 00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,400 So they always had plausible deniability while they could be 503 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,700 simultaneously, provoking them. And then on page, 30 9 504 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:54,100 Morgenstern says, Japan had obligingly. 505 00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:56,700 Provided the solution for President Roosevelt's, dilemma 506 00:30:57,000 --> 00:31:00,400 Stimson expressed his reaction to the Jap attack which was 507 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,400 costing 3,000. American lives with the utmost 508 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,400 frankness, he wrote in his diary, when the news first. 509 00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,200 Name that Japan had attacked us. My first feeling was of relief 510 00:31:10,300 --> 00:31:14,200 that the indecision was over. And that a crisis had come in a 511 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,300 way, which would unite all our people. 512 00:31:17,500 --> 00:31:20,700 This continued to be my dominant feeling in spite of the news of 513 00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:23,800 catastrophes, which quickly developed for. 514 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,400 I feel that this country United has practically nothing to fear, 515 00:31:28,500 --> 00:31:32,600 while the apathy and divisions start up by unpatriotic men. 516 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,300 Had been hitherto very discouraging. 517 00:31:36,500 --> 00:31:38,100 Why are you familiar with the thesis? 518 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,900 That Pearl Harbor was intentionally provoked, I am 519 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,700 familiar with the thesis. I have not done the legwork to 520 00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:51,400 go in, read the complete works of the revisionist, who have 521 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,600 investigated the Pearl, Harbor pre-planned thesis, I think it 522 00:31:56,600 --> 00:32:03,500 is Acknowledged by all historians, Pro and anti FDR. 523 00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:09,500 That Roosevelt favored us entry into the war as early as 1939 524 00:32:09,500 --> 00:32:13,900 and inarguably by 1941. He believed it was the, in the 525 00:32:13,900 --> 00:32:18,200 interests of the United States and, of course, himself to 526 00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,600 involve the US and the war to benefit Britain, and the other 527 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,800 allies against the Axis powers. I think it's incontrovertible. 528 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:32,100 And not disputable based on things like stimson's Memoirs 529 00:32:32,100 --> 00:32:35,300 and other primary documents from the time that the Roosevelt 530 00:32:35,300 --> 00:32:39,100 administration purposely favored, the souring of 531 00:32:39,100 --> 00:32:43,000 relations between the United States and Japan throughout 1941 532 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:47,500 in response to Japanese expansionism in the Pacific and 533 00:32:47,500 --> 00:32:50,800 their aggressive behaviors towards China, Britain and other 534 00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:55,300 powers seizing colonies and the like and that they did not favor 535 00:32:55,300 --> 00:32:58,500 any kind of reproach meant. Even though Was a possibility at 536 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:02,600 the time. So I think and historians will 537 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,500 defend that as even though Roosevelt favorite getting into 538 00:33:05,500 --> 00:33:08,400 the war getting into. The war was a good thing. 539 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:11,700 So FDR's, still a hero and one of our greatest presidents and 540 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:13,700 whether you believe that can come down to a matter of 541 00:33:13,700 --> 00:33:17,200 politics, but speaking about history and what can be proved 542 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,300 and not proved while I fully agree and acknowledge that 543 00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:27,000 Roosevelt favored, United States entry into the war and certainly 544 00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:29,800 help. Sabotage American diplomacy and 545 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:34,300 overseas efforts to help engineer US entry into the war. 546 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:37,700 When it comes down to the nitty-gritty on whether you 547 00:33:37,700 --> 00:33:43,000 Roosevelt say purposely, put the in almost the entirety of the US 548 00:33:43,100 --> 00:33:47,400 Pacific Fleet at Pearl Harbor to make it easier for the Japanese 549 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,900 to attack and want to fail. Swing or whether definitively 550 00:33:51,900 --> 00:33:54,700 the codes. The Japanese codes were broken, 551 00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:59,500 sufficiently to have full. Knowledge of the attack and that 552 00:33:59,500 --> 00:34:02,000 the administration and the White House sat on it. 553 00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:07,000 So the Japanese would attack Pearl Harbor and catch the 554 00:34:07,100 --> 00:34:09,300 military Garrison there with their pants down. 555 00:34:09,500 --> 00:34:12,600 I'm not fully convinced of that. Part of the thesis. 556 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:16,900 I know many fine historians have been convinced by it, but I 557 00:34:16,900 --> 00:34:19,600 haven't done personally enough research to say that that that 558 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:22,900 is definitively, in my opinion. Currently, I'm predisposed to 559 00:34:22,900 --> 00:34:29,100 say it's a I don't fully agree with that position at this time. 560 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:33,500 Two more pieces of evidence that I want to give on this issue. 561 00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:38,800 Here is the New York Times. January 2nd, 1972, the article 562 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:42,800 is titled War entry plans, laid to Roosevelt. 563 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:46,800 This is a meeting between Winston, Churchill and Franklin. 564 00:34:46,808 --> 00:34:52,300 Roosevelt in Canada. In that they go give the date 565 00:34:52,300 --> 00:34:54,199 here. I believe it was August of 1941. 566 00:34:54,199 --> 00:34:59,100 Churchill says he Roosevelt obviously was determined that 567 00:34:59,100 --> 00:35:01,600 they You should come in the president. 568 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,600 Had said he would wage war, but not declare it and that he would 569 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,800 become a more and more provocative. 570 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,800 If the Germans did not like it, they could attack. 571 00:35:10,900 --> 00:35:15,600 American forces later, saying everything was to be done to 572 00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:20,300 force an incident. Finally, the president has taken 573 00:35:20,300 --> 00:35:23,400 this very well and made it clear that he would look for an 574 00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:27,500 incident which would justify him in opening hostilities. 575 00:35:27,700 --> 00:35:33,100 The final piece of Evidence which I have for the intentional 576 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:38,600 use of our Pearl Harbor, being something that was set up in 577 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,100 hopes of bringing the usn toward. 578 00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:43,900 This is a document titled. The McCulloch memo it was made 579 00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:50,400 public in 1999 by a veteran, Robert Stinnett. 580 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:57,400 In a book, titled day of Deceit, the document says it has a seven 581 00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:01,500 things that the u.s. can do. With its relation to Japan, give 582 00:36:01,500 --> 00:36:03,500 all possible Aid to Chinese government Shanghai. 583 00:36:03,500 --> 00:36:07,700 Check complete embargo with all us, trade with Japan and 584 00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:10,400 collaboration with similar embargoes and posed by the 585 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,700 British Empire. The reason that this is not just 586 00:36:13,700 --> 00:36:16,300 some Kook writing a memo to himself. 587 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,900 The majority of these planks were actually implemented into 588 00:36:21,100 --> 00:36:24,400 the Roosevelt administration, most popularly, the export 589 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,700 Control Act of 1940, the document Ends by saying if by 590 00:36:28,700 --> 00:36:33,200 these means Japan could be led to commit and overt Act of War. 591 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:38,200 So much the better at all events we must be fully prepared to 592 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,700 accept the threat of war. That is my general justification 593 00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:46,100 for having such a high likelihood that this was 594 00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:50,600 intentionally provoked and you would think that if government 595 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,700 is here to protect us and keep us safe and then they don't keep 596 00:36:53,700 --> 00:36:56,200 us safe. While Roosevelt would have had 597 00:36:56,900 --> 00:36:59,300 made sure that tons of people were fired. 598 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:01,400 He would have stepped down. He said I didn't even do, my 599 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:05,500 basic duty of keeping you safe. I hereby resign, we got to, you 600 00:37:05,500 --> 00:37:08,500 know, what have a total overhaul and what could I have done 601 00:37:08,500 --> 00:37:11,600 better and we owe people reparations for not holding up 602 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,600 our end of the social contract. It's like there's not even an 603 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,700 apology that it's complete psychopathy, so it really does 604 00:37:18,700 --> 00:37:21,000 fit with the character of these people. 605 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:25,000 And then they use conscription again, leading to 400,000 606 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:28,400 military members dying in the second world war. 607 00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:33,100 So, What else do we can? We learn from the second world 608 00:37:33,100 --> 00:37:36,900 war Pearl, Harbor Roosevelt's attitude Churchill's 609 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,000 interference with what are some other takeaways I think the 610 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:47,100 primary take away when it comes to World War Two is that it is 611 00:37:47,300 --> 00:37:53,000 incumbent on Americans who want to know more to go out and learn 612 00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,600 more themselves. We are taught not only in the 613 00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,400 public school system, but just in the wider culture, The myth 614 00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:04,800 of World War Two, as the good War where the United States was 615 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:11,300 merely sitting on the sidelines and enemy forces bent on world 616 00:38:11,300 --> 00:38:16,100 domination, brought us Kicking and Screaming into the war and 617 00:38:16,100 --> 00:38:18,600 we had no choice but to take care of business. 618 00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:23,000 This is not true. This is not you know to give any 619 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,600 Creature Comforts to the Nazi regime or imperial Japan. 620 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,900 It's simply to say that during 1932 92 1941. 621 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:37,600 There were numerous complex and very passionate debates, about 622 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,300 u.s. foreign policy. And what the United States to do 623 00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:45,300 should do to either encourage participation in the war or 624 00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:47,500 discourage participation in the war. 625 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,300 I myself and my politics find myself fully in line with the 626 00:38:52,300 --> 00:38:55,800 America First committee. And the idea that it is through 627 00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:59,100 non-intervention that the United States as a nation and as a 628 00:38:59,107 --> 00:39:05,800 people people can remain strong and free and I think it is the 629 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:09,300 responsibility of people today to break through those myths to 630 00:39:09,300 --> 00:39:14,000 do more research and whether they find that, they believe 631 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:18,700 Roosevelt knew fully well, what he was doing on, December 7th 632 00:39:18,700 --> 00:39:22,900 1941 and whether he had pre-planned, some sort of attack 633 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:26,200 whether they discover that or not, or whether they end up 634 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,500 believing that or not, I think it's important for people to 635 00:39:28,500 --> 00:39:32,800 realize that The belt was trying to engineer US into the war and 636 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:40,000 that despite what you might hear by the special historians at NBC 637 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:44,400 and PBS and all the other court historians, trying to engineer 638 00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,200 your country. Into a war, is not something 639 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:52,300 that makes a great president. Yeah, the sources that I look at 640 00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:54,800 one of them. If you look at the US Census 641 00:39:54,800 --> 00:40:00,100 Bureau, some estimates range up to 60 million deaths in the 642 00:40:00,100 --> 00:40:04,900 second world war. If you start in 1933 with the 643 00:40:05,300 --> 00:40:10,200 Japanese going into China and then you end in the summer of 644 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:16,300 1945, it's amazing that the good War caused so Much Death, so 645 00:40:16,300 --> 00:40:21,300 much destruction gave half of Europe to Led to proxy wars in 646 00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:26,000 Vietnam, Korea and Afghanistan in the late 70s, and they just 647 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:31,500 brag about this generally. So one quote from Winston 648 00:40:31,500 --> 00:40:33,900 Churchill, he wrote a book called The Gathering storm. 649 00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:37,800 This is the very first book that came out after the world war and 650 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,300 in the preface. He says, one day, President 651 00:40:40,300 --> 00:40:44,200 Roosevelt told me that he was asking publicly for suggestions 652 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:45,800 about what the war should be called. 653 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,400 I said it once the unnecessary War, there never was a war. 654 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,100 More easy to stop than that which has just wrecked. 655 00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:56,200 What was left of the world? From the previous struggle, the 656 00:40:56,200 --> 00:41:01,100 human tragedy reaches its climax in the fact that after all, the 657 00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:04,700 exertions and sacrifices of hundreds of millions of people 658 00:41:04,700 --> 00:41:07,900 and the victories of the righteous, cause we have still 659 00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:13,000 not found peace or security and that we lie in the grip of even 660 00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,300 worse. Perils than those, we have 661 00:41:15,300 --> 00:41:19,500 surmounted. This is a another case that 662 00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:23,600 Pacifist or people who just don't support Wars which 663 00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:27,800 indiscriminate mass murder that they make one, the costs of War 664 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,100 are extraordinarily high and to you don't know what the outcome 665 00:41:32,100 --> 00:41:33,700 is going to be. Because the people in there, 666 00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:36,300 don't have the knowledge or incentives to make sure that 667 00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:40,800 there is a really good outcome based on truth and freedom and 668 00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:44,300 and everything else. So, but because you're not 669 00:41:44,300 --> 00:41:47,900 dealing with, is it okay to steal bread to feed a starving 670 00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:50,500 woman? Well, you know, Know that if you 671 00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:53,000 take the bread and you give it to her, she puts it in her 672 00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,100 mouth, she will be fed. That is a heck of a lot 673 00:41:56,100 --> 00:41:59,100 different than saying, well, what's going to happen if 674 00:41:59,100 --> 00:42:04,100 Gaddafi and Saddam are killed and we try a regime change 675 00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:06,400 operation with the Taliban. Well, okay. 676 00:42:06,400 --> 00:42:09,800 Do you see how many different variables there are between, 677 00:42:10,100 --> 00:42:13,200 saving the starving Woman by giving our piece of bread? 678 00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:16,500 Yes, it's a non-aggression principle violation, but then 679 00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,500 there's another huge violation of the freedom principle. 680 00:42:19,900 --> 00:42:23,900 And you have no clue what the results are going to be. 681 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,900 So I think the work you did on these two, are these three 682 00:42:27,900 --> 00:42:31,300 articles rather, we have one more and now why would add to 683 00:42:31,300 --> 00:42:33,400 that real quick? That not only is it a problem of 684 00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,200 not being able to witness the consequences? 685 00:42:35,500 --> 00:42:39,100 It's the confusion of goals and what we're trying to achieve and 686 00:42:39,100 --> 00:42:44,300 that's I mean it's such a u.s. foreign policy and to discover 687 00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:46,800 more about that, I would recommend the Great Book enough 688 00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,900 already by Scott Horton. Great guy people check Have to 689 00:42:49,900 --> 00:42:53,200 realize how schizophrenic our foreign policy has been during 690 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,900 the global war on terror and going back, just the past 40 691 00:42:55,900 --> 00:42:58,800 years at least. But this confusion of goals and 692 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:03,200 applying that to World War 2 was the goal of the Allied powers to 693 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:08,800 ensure free and Democratic Poland, unmolested by Foreign 694 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:13,100 aggressors such as Nazi Germany. That didn't happen, Poland began 695 00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,500 over, 40 year military occupation, by the Soviet Union. 696 00:43:16,500 --> 00:43:19,500 At the end of the war, was the destruction. 697 00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,200 What was the complete destruction of the Nazi regime? 698 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:24,400 The goal? We were completely successful in 699 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:28,700 that and one of the results was, of course, as you mentioned, the 700 00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:32,900 Soviet occupation of all of Central and Eastern Europe was 701 00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:38,000 the goal, the complete neutering of Imperial Japan and the 702 00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,400 Japanese empire again. We were successful and one of 703 00:43:41,408 --> 00:43:45,800 the consequences of that was more open space for the rise of 704 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:52,200 communist China and the argument Over whether was the goal simply 705 00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:56,100 to make the United States, the preeminent military dick, Tres 706 00:43:56,100 --> 00:44:00,100 of the of planet Earth again. We are successful at least for 707 00:44:00,100 --> 00:44:03,100 several decades, but was that a good thing? 708 00:44:03,500 --> 00:44:07,900 So it's people even in defending World War Two and other Wars, 709 00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:12,700 they're confused about what they're trying to achieve and we 710 00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:16,300 can't it's hard to even discuss on well what went wrong, when we 711 00:44:16,300 --> 00:44:18,100 don't even know what we were trying to do, right? 712 00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,500 For those unfamiliar Neville. Chamberlain's, original 713 00:44:22,500 --> 00:44:26,700 justification on, September 3rd. 1939 was declaring war on 714 00:44:26,700 --> 00:44:30,700 Germany, because they violated polish independence, by entering 715 00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:35,400 Danzig an area, the size of Maryland that was 95% German, 716 00:44:35,500 --> 00:44:37,400 not that I support invasions or anything. 717 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:40,400 But I mean, don't pretend that this was just totally out of 718 00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:44,200 nowhere and it was just a blatant power grab against the 719 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:48,500 will of the people. So much important information. 720 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,700 Finally, one other article of yours that I really, really 721 00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:57,400 appreciated was called the child sex trafficking Scandal, America 722 00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,700 forgot. What is this article about this? 723 00:45:01,700 --> 00:45:06,300 Article is about the kidnapping of Johnny, Gosch young Iowa, 724 00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:10,600 paperboy in the early 1980s and it's connections to the Franklin 725 00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:17,000 Scandal, which was a child sex trafficking scandal in 1980s? 726 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:21,900 Nebraska locate. Realized in a Omaha and focused 727 00:45:21,900 --> 00:45:24,600 on the Franklin Federal. Credit Union was, which was a 728 00:45:24,607 --> 00:45:29,200 bank in the area led by mr. Lawrence E King who was one of 729 00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:36,000 the rising stars in the Republican Party he sang the the 730 00:45:36,008 --> 00:45:40,400 national song at the 1984 Republican, National Convention 731 00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:47,200 was one of the leaders in several black, Republican groups 732 00:45:47,900 --> 00:45:53,100 and was charged and convicted of embezzling, 40 million dollars 733 00:45:53,100 --> 00:45:56,500 from the Franklin Federal Credit Union and was also investigated 734 00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:59,800 for being one of the ringleaders of a child sex trafficking 735 00:45:59,800 --> 00:46:04,900 operation where he would lead several well, many Miners and 736 00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:09,300 take On flights to sex parties, in Washington, d.c. 737 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,900 New York, Chicago. Other major centres, where they 738 00:46:12,900 --> 00:46:19,100 were forced to have sex with and do drugs with some of the elite 739 00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:25,200 leaders in politics Finance, the police big business, Etc. 740 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:33,300 And the allegation that this was a massive cover-up of this 741 00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:37,800 scandal. And for more research, I I 742 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:40,400 definitely recommend everyone. Read the article, I was very 743 00:46:40,400 --> 00:46:42,400 happy about that. I've called it the most 744 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,200 important article I've ever read. 745 00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:46,900 Unfortunately about the most unsavory topic I've ever 746 00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:49,900 covered. But for a longer dispensation, I 747 00:46:49,908 --> 00:46:53,400 definitely recommend everybody check out the Franklin Scandal 748 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,900 by Nick Bryant. It's probably the best work done 749 00:46:56,900 --> 00:47:01,800 on the Scandal as a whole it's magnificently researched and has 750 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,000 all of the footnotes and I also recommend people check out the 751 00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:08,900 Comentary who took Johnny, you can rent it on Amazon, it's an 752 00:47:08,900 --> 00:47:12,400 excellent introduction to these. It'll be one of the worst things 753 00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:13,900 you've ever watched and you'll regret it. 754 00:47:13,900 --> 00:47:15,500 But it's still important that you do. 755 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:23,300 I love the part of the Franklin Scandal book where he just 756 00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:27,900 copies almost all the primary documents that he is referencing 757 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,600 and the last hundred pages are just primary documents based on 758 00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:35,700 the finders Cult of the interviews with Paul Benassi. 759 00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:38,300 You know what I mean? We actually have names of the 760 00:47:38,300 --> 00:47:42,700 kids Troy Bonner, Alicia Owens where, I mean, Paul Bonacci, 761 00:47:42,700 --> 00:47:47,400 especially has a very credible case where he had said A number 762 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,400 of things that the media misreported, he accurately, 763 00:47:50,500 --> 00:47:55,100 conveyed them to Noreen Gosch, and the FBI could not have been 764 00:47:55,100 --> 00:47:59,800 less interested, even in the who took Johnny documentary. 765 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,000 They said, what is the update on the Johnny Gosch case, and then 766 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:05,700 the woman intervenes, but behind the scenes. 767 00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:08,400 Oh, but we agree that there wouldn't be any questions about 768 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,800 Johnny Gosch. I mean, the, the protecting and 769 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,600 serving is, is just so well like that, when it comes to something 770 00:48:16,000 --> 00:48:19,500 like this, Hunter, where is the best place for people to find 771 00:48:19,500 --> 00:48:23,700 your collection of research? If there was one site that they 772 00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:26,400 could go to? What would you recommend if ever 773 00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:29,600 if anyone wanted to check out, just a complete library of all 774 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:31,900 of the Articles I've had published at various places. 775 00:48:31,900 --> 00:48:39,500 You can go to Hunter Duran's s.com hu NT, ER, dren sis.com. 776 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:42,900 It's, you know, it's not fancy. It's just a list of links but 777 00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:45,600 everything's there. And I encourage people to follow 778 00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,700 me on Twitter at Tremendous just my name. 779 00:48:48,700 --> 00:48:51,600 I think I have a pretty good feed and you'll catch a, you 780 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,300 know, any new stuff I come out with and I encourage everyone. 781 00:48:55,300 --> 00:48:58,300 If you have a couple extra dollars donate to the 782 00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:02,200 libertarian Institute, you know, help me and Keith, keep doing 783 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,900 great work that you like. And if you have more dollars, go 784 00:49:05,900 --> 00:49:11,500 to bring our troops home dot U, s-- the website where I have my 785 00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:14,800 full-time gig and contribute, a few dollars to America's 786 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,800 veterans who are trying to bring our troops home. 787 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,300 From these endless Wars and become a supporting member of 788 00:49:20,300 --> 00:49:24,700 the 10-7 Club, our supporters group, just go to the Donate tab 789 00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:27,300 at, bring our troops home dot u-s, contribute a couple bucks 790 00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:30,300 and you know support the libertarian Institute support 791 00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:34,300 bring our troops home support libertarian organizations who 792 00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:41,800 are trying to do good after many, many decades, centuries of 793 00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:43,900 people in Washington, d.c. doing bad. 794 00:49:44,700 --> 00:49:47,300 Hunter Durant has thank you for your time brother, and thanks to 795 00:49:47,300 --> 00:49:50,300 everyone for watching Keith and I don't tread on anyone and the 796 00:49:50,300 --> 00:49:51,800 libertarian Institute.