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Welcome to Keith's night. 
Don't tread on anyone in the 

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libertarian Institute today. 
I am joined by dr. 

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Wilfred Reilly a professor of 
political science at Kentucky 

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State University. 
He's the author of taboo, 10 

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facts. 
You can't talk about as well as 

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the book behind him. 
Hate crime, hoax, dr. 

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Riley, Thanks so much for your 
time. 

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Well, thanks, as always for 
having me on the show, Good to 

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be here. 
One of my favorite authors of 

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all time is Oh my soul. 
I follow you on Twitter, and I 

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know you like to discuss a lot 
of other research you've done on

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his work. 
Yes. 

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So many books. 
The first one that came to mind 

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is the vision of the anointed 
self-congratulations, as a basis

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for social policy. 
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about the vision of the 
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Well I think the vision of the 
anointed is probably the most 

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important, Thomas Soul book 
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the phenomenon that we're seeing
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A of sort of the universally 
wrong expert, what Tom Soul does

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in the vision of the anointing 
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human functioning. 
There's what he calls the tragic

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Vision, which is the idea that 
human nature is hard to change 

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and knowledge is hard to get. 
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exist for a reason to some 
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This is chesterton's fence, kind
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I mean so one of the few debates
I ever really lost was with a A 

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Jesuit priest, we were on stage,
I think this was a men's club or

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some similar event back in law 
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you're one of those edgy new 
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I would imagine this like 2005, 
you don't think there's a God or

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any source for these rules? 
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discussing and I said some 
vertical live version of, yeah, 

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that's about right. 
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I'd agree with that today. 
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would you agree though that 
there are laws against things 

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like raping women in your tribe 
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murder? 
Child abuse of the worst kind of

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cross, almost every society. 
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audience said, yeah and he said,
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or not you believe in my version
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these are true to some extent, 
that it would be very foolish 

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for someone to remove that Norm 
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why it exists. 
Let me that's 10 points on the 

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debate board or whatever, but 
it's also just a valid point 

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that the institutional 
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usually exist, because they've 
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period of time by kind of social
interplay between very 

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intelligent people. 
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example, is very famously like a
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an upper class British man is 
walking through the woods and he

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sees a fence. 
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between two properties. 
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initial response is well, why 
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It's a bit of an eyesore, but 
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don't I first figure out why the
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Go knock on the neighbor's door.
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have vicious dogs. 
Are there are there fighting 

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bulls in the yard. 
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just to get rid of that as ugly 
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it's up. 
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human beings are not bad per se 
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It's hard for us to get in, 
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come up with totally original 
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institutions, whether you're 
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Academy or the Catholic church 
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I'm fairly well for Millenia. 
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those? 
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they work is they do and whether
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certainly don't want to destroy 
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So that that's one of the 
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outlines. 
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a rational conservatism and 
going a little Beyond Soul here.

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If you're thinking about how you
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change would be incremental. 
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problem with racism you would 
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Society minimize racism. 
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Boss roles is have people on the
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names on resumes, for example. 
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I'm mildly racist. 
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test and so on toward black 
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I slightly favored black people.
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black, quote unquote, but I 
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hardly a privileged white area. 
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positive about the idea of 
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whites. 
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off, I take the addresses off so
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degree, Tulane, and such and 
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racism. 
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incremental, change, becomes 
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I suppose that someone could 
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something like that. 
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80 Percent of the bigotry you 
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incremental change. 
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vision would lead me and I think
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support but I've been rambling 
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about 5 minutes that's actually 
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the tragic compilation of 
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Vision is the vision of the 
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sort of we're in a new era, we 
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rapidly developed knowledge, 
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in sociology, you're talking to 
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knowledge that's coming out of 
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sociology. 
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sort of we have new knowledge 
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these knowledge has Concentrated
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and these Visions lead to 
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perceptions about outcomes. 
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of the anointed, what you would 
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that were just developing to 
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have in society the old and 
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copernican or Worse, right? 
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Brave New World, where we have 
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we have state and our and so on 
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anything more than recycled 
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judges and, you know, women 
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been engaging in for a thousand 
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are. 
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this to some extent and you can 
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implemented using the vision of 
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policies implemented using the 
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book is actually very empirical 
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Ecology and psycho metrics that.
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complex mental reasons. 
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people no longer feel oppressed.
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which should be easy to do, 
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tragic Vision, which is that the
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policeman beat your ass if you 
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punishment. 
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cleaning up. 
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decrease crime? 
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He says that I often die crib. 
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debate online is, this is not a 
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It's an empirical question and 
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this and obviously, as you know 
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What happened was that when we 
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Social Services sentences should
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We should convince people to 
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racist, what happened was that 
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majority of criminals mean, the 
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are still white, they had never 
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system to be racist. 
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them was simply how Likely they 
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among black criminals, I mean, 
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a sense of feeling that Justice 
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We sometimes forget this but the
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of us that grew up in the 90s 
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trains and you know musk Ali 
have sex in big cities or people

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prevent it was, it was not a 
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seeing it again. 
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that's a result of conscious 
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made on the basis of these 
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criminal justice but then it 
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goes to Economic Policy. 
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fascinating book. 
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It says, the first order of 
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been to turn the tables on 
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made to feel guilty for what it 
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He talks about how whenever 
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blame society as opposed to the 
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blame the individual. 
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blame society, the less each 
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Vested interest. 
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officers or the father's 
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Well, my hands are clean because
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and colonialism and a number of 
other things, he then has a page

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where he goes through a series 
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He says a very distinct pattern 
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policies favored by the 
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Turn out to fail. 
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four stages crisis solution, 
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Walk us through why this is 
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This is, this is my favorite 
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SOL, SOL is sometimes criticized
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this is a very empirical book so
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of every one of these proposals 
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identify some kind of Crisis 
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crime. 
Let's actually do police 

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defunding so the Crisis that 
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George Floyd. 
Jacob Lake, Michael Brown, early

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years of the quote-unquote 
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was a mass wave of police 
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especially unarmed black man. 
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racial summary of it. 
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three, I've mentioned Trayvon 
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white side. 
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Massacring people, especially 
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read recently, skeptic Research 
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Thanks that between 1,000 and 
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are killed by police during a 
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crisis that is invented 
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Gio's, Academia. 
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currently lead more than 90% to 
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political left, and they all 
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And they promote this story and 
we see this all the time from 

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Trump is Russian spy to, in a 
racial crime, against black 

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people to systemic racism in 
medicine. 

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These narratives come constantly
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this book. 
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the storyline is in a 10,000 
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killed the reality, of course, 
was that this never happened. 

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That's a clause in Souls, great 
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crisis. 
He says, most of these crises 

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are not real by the 1950s crime 
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Was it one of its lowest levels 
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It was declining for black men. 
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probably accounted for half the 
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time, is declining for a Min 
overall, but you declare the 

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crisis. 
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that the crisis was Police 
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So, step two is the solution, 
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years, we've seen major police 
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which is often a Bellwether 
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and 50 percent. 
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crisis. 
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police cities. 
Like la like NYC. 

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This never reached the levels 
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didn't, but it was very real. 
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departments cutting their 
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more to the point. 
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stops, which is really the key 
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So there's a direct response, 
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officers on the street. 
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community policing, we're going 
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engaging, with black leaders 
beat because the The important 

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thing is that we stop massacring
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rebuild our relationship with 
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when you'll see crime drop. 
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counter predictions here, that 
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of those with the tragic vision.
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bad, people more than half of 
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don't give a damn about any of 
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neighborhoods are going to see a
surgeon crime, that's the tragic

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vision and to anyone's dada. 
Golf Course or the basketball 

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court or in the barbershop it 
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Plus two is four, the prediction
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complicated. 
They always call our predictions

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simplistic but it's basically 
that, you know, as people learn 

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to trust the justice system more
and as the massacres stop people

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would be more comfortable 
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And the police would be freed 
from Simply harassing black 

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Innocents, to go, chase rapists 
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is that the police do spend a 
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Aging in racist, violence has 
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That's a baseline Assumption of 
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otherwise it doesn't make sense 
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So step two, the solution is cut
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budgets by 7% devote the police 
to community policing, pure 

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anointed Solutions. 
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results and soul has a great 
line here where he says the 

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policies of the anointed or 
implemented and Lead directly 

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to, you know, - result Z like 
We've been told all along will 

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not happen but what everyone in 
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suburbs. 
I do on the athletic fields that

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have talking about knew what 
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Everyone knew it, everyone 
called it. 

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And that's what happened. 
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murders soar above 20,000, 
murders of the most reliable 

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crime data for the first time 
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I mean, it's an unbelievable 
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Pattern. 
As soon as we stop doing the 

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things that we've been doing and
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neighborhoods crime, went back 
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was, except with a slight 
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six percent, or whatever 
increase in population. 

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It's exactly what you would have
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If you were kind of a cynical 
businessman, on the tragic side,

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the which I am. 
But anyway, so and then step 

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four is that the the anointed 
will deny that the obvious Is 

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the obvious pattern and we're 
seeing this now. 

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I mean, I frequently debate 
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sociologist Rod G, the doctor - 
Iquitos some other people. 

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I don't think people are bad as 
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representatives of kind of the 
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The psychologist, Pat Lockwood 
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sometimes jump in and what these
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you're being too simplistic 
Riley. 

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Like, yeah, I know, we saw this.
I know we saw these shifted 

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back, but you have to 
understand, they're also covid 

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effect. 
And so you tend to get lost. 

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Like to publish a research paper
on this. 

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I'm probably gonna have to 
adjust for all this bullshit. 

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Forgive me like, you know, but 
was it, the disease affects, you

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know, and five years later will 
know, of course, it was the fact

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that we pulled back the police, 
but by then the story will be 

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gone from the headlines and you 
won't be able to get your paper 

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cited in the times or anything. 
So, it's just, it's just that, I

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mean, first world problems 
there, that's the ultimate, 

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first world sentence. 
Like your paper won't get its 

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recognition, but I mean, like, 
it really is this consistent 

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pattern, right? 
It's just like we the anointed 

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says, one thing. 
Like teaching kids about 

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Hardbody raw, anal, sex is going
to make them have sex less 

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because they will respect their 
bodies more in the understand a 

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range of options. 
And every one that hooked up in 

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high school straight or gay is 
like, no, it's gonna make them 

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have sex at parties. 
Now, that they understand how to

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do this. 
The only reason even girl said 

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no to anal, was that lube. 
And so on wasn't involved, this 

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will dramatically increase the 
frequency of this type of Sex. 

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And the, this will then be 
tested five years later, you'll 

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look at reported rates of And of
course Taipei among high school 

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and college women. 
It will have surged by 30% and 

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then there will be a series of 
denials about it. 

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How, you know, the feminism in 
our culture can also explain 

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this this occurred. 
That's just a sideline example. 

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What it relates to souls comment
on sexual education. 

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He talks about STD rates in the 
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follow this same very 
predictable pattern. 

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I don't think it's a coincidence
that this pattern is 

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predictable. 
He wrote a gun, another great 

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book called civil rights, 
rhetoric or reality. 

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And there's a section in here, 
where he says before crediting, 

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either political policy with 
economic gains, it is worth 

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considering what trends were 
already underway before they 

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were instituted in the period 
from 1954 to 1964. 

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For example, the number of 
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Technical and similar high-level
positions, more than doubled. 

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The reason that's so important 
is because I'm ashamed. 

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Say it literally never occurred 
to me to say, well, what was 

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happening before the 
implementation of policy X 

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policy. 
Why I think soul is just so good

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on issues like that, and it was 
just totally new for me, 

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anything with regards to civil 
rights or the ability to 

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empirically test theories that 
you learn from Thomas Soul. 

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Yeah. 
Well I think so. 

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No, I often say that for a 
tenure track professor at a 

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State University like I'm a 
Holiday - methodologist. 

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I mean I'm definitely good 
enough to get an academic or 

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think-tank paper published. 
I mean I know what I'm doing. 

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I think Souls about that same 
level. 

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His methods were used to be 
cutting edge. 

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He's still quite good, but he's 
moving on port age 90. 

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But I think that Beyond just the
tricks because neither of us is 

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doing like regressions that take
eight pages to print out, or 

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something like that. 
What's so great about so is that

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he expand? 
I try to do this myself when I 

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teach methodology, I mean I am a
professor of the subject as 

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well. 
So we both, you know what we're 

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doing. 
But I think what's so great 

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about souls that? 
He very clearly explains from a 

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pretty politically neutral 
standpoint. 

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I mean stole is on the right a 
little bit. 

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He's a registered political 
independent. 

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Just the tricks that everybody 
uses and how you can get around 

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these tricks and make accurate 
effective scientific 

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predictions. 
So I mean the first thing that 

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we talked about is the 
importance of effective 

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modeling. 
So we just went through his 

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model of how things almost 
inevitably collapse after 

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excited. 
So by the anointed, another 

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point that Soul makes that may 
be a question later. 

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So I'm not going to go out and 
go off on this for too long, but

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it's just the importance of 
adjusting for things. 

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If you're doing regression which
I think you he and I are all at 

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a level to do sort of analysis. 
You see in most serious papers. 

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What you're doing is trying to 
compare equivalent people so you

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can see the effect of one thing 
like racism if that makes sense.

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So I mean if you're running 
stata or are your Looking at 

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your dependent variable is for 
example, something like income. 

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And you might be interested in 
the impact of prejudice on 

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income. 
But to find that out, you're 

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going to adjust for age. 
The most common age for a black 

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man. 
As I always say, is 27 for a 

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white man. 
It's 58. 

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You're going to adjust for 
region minorities are far more 

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likely than whites to live in 
the south or the Southwest where

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wages are far lower. 
This is mildly controversial but

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you're going to have to adjust 
for test scores. 

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I think the gaps here. 
Cultural rather than genetic. 

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There's quite a lot of 
literature on both sides, but 

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the simple reality is that if 
your SATs 950, you're going to 

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have a different job than you 
would, if it were 11:18, those 

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are the averages for blacks and 
for I believe want to be Asian 

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groups respectively. 
So, when you adjust for all of 

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this so that you're comparing a 
black guy who's 27 went to U of,

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I got an 11:00 lives in Missouri
with a white guy. 

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Who's 27 went to U of, I got an 
11:00 lives in Missouri. 

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If you see a 3% difference in 
income, there that's likely due 

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to racism. 
If you simply find an inn even 

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there, it's questionable or what
fields are the two men going 

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through so on. 
But if you find an initial 

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starting point, thirty percent 
Gap in the wages of these two 

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guys. 
And that's as far as almost all 

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journalistic reporting and about
half of the social science 

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papers ever, get that doesn't 
mean anything at all. 

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So one of the things I learned 
from solar just always adjust, 

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always be honest with it. 
Set up your model, explain, 

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what's in? 
In it and put in the variables 

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other than racism, that likely 
explain the gaps that you're 

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looking at. 
And in terms of the particular 

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question that you asked, oh 
yeah, pre-existing trendlines, 

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this is another one. 
Like, I guess the simplest way 

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to say this would be, what is 
your, what is your beginning 

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00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:06,300
year? 
And why? 

452
00:23:07,700 --> 00:23:10,200
So you very often see when 
people are looking at the Civil 

453
00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,400
Rights Movement, you very often,
see people beginning with the 

454
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:17,500
year 1964, which of course was 
when we pass that great 

455
00:23:17,500 --> 00:23:21,800
accomplishment, the civil Where 
are the year 1967, which is when

456
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,900
affirmative action began. 
That was the national 

457
00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:26,700
Philadelphia plan under mr. 
Nixon and saying, well since 

458
00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:29,700
that point, black incomes have 
increased substantially at a 

459
00:23:29,700 --> 00:23:33,200
four percent annual rate. 
The problem with that as Soul 

460
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,500
points out in the book is civil 
rights rhetoric and reality as 

461
00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:38,300
you said is that black incomes 
have been increasing at that 

462
00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:41,700
same four percent annual rate 
for something like 35 years. 

463
00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:45,000
Before this happen? 
The, the idea of the black 

464
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,500
family is being entirely 
Southern and lower class, hadn't

465
00:23:47,500 --> 00:23:50,000
been true for decades. 
He's I mean that's like Gunnar 

466
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:52,500
myrdal era stuff. 
I mean, the Great Migration had 

467
00:23:52,500 --> 00:23:54,600
already happened. 
The Harlem Renaissance was in 

468
00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:57,700
the 1920s, blacks and many 
Northern cities made his men, 

469
00:23:57,900 --> 00:24:00,100
much as members of many 
oppressed white group, so, on 

470
00:24:00,100 --> 00:24:05,000
down the line, so, Obviously I 
do think the Civil Rights 

471
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:07,300
Movement was useful, it did help
out those brothers 

472
00:24:07,300 --> 00:24:10,000
quote-unquote, who are still 
stuck in the South who are 

473
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:14,600
facing certain obstacles. 
But you can't just say what made

474
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,400
the African-American Community 
successful was a decision by the

475
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,100
government to pursue policy x. 
What actually made the black 

476
00:24:22,100 --> 00:24:24,700
community successful and indeed 
many of those white communities.

477
00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:28,400
I describe the Irish, for 
example, migrated outside of the

478
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,600
tenement core areas of cities 
where there was very little for 

479
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,600
them. 
I began to seek out jobs in the 

480
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,000
suburbs. 
They began to explore 

481
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:39,000
construction even farming. 
These are often very libertarian

482
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:42,700
individual choices by people 
that began to move these groups 

483
00:24:42,700 --> 00:24:45,700
forward. 
So I think again where you're 

484
00:24:45,700 --> 00:24:49,200
beginning, your frame has an 
effect on what you think groups 

485
00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,000
and countries should do going 
forward. 

486
00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:55,500
If you think that the government
pulled black people or Irish men

487
00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:01,100
out of poverty, by making major 
national scale moves your 

488
00:25:01,100 --> 00:25:04,100
assumption will be that with fur
Example, Mexican Americans today

489
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,900
or something like that. 
That's what will be required. 

490
00:25:06,900 --> 00:25:09,800
It's always the state. 
We need to expand the state. 

491
00:25:10,100 --> 00:25:14,500
If you simply change your 
beginning year in the model and 

492
00:25:14,500 --> 00:25:17,000
realize oh the state had nothing
to do with this. 

493
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:21,600
The law was probably a good idea
but 95 or whatever percent of 

494
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,700
the increase came about due to 
Natural declines. 

495
00:25:24,700 --> 00:25:28,400
That bigotry and migration 
patterns that leads you to 

496
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,000
totally different starting 
assumptions. 

497
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,400
I mean, that actually began And 
a really valid conversation 

498
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,900
where you can ask, does it make 
sense to take away people's 

499
00:25:37,900 --> 00:25:42,700
freedom of Association to 
produce the other three or four 

500
00:25:42,700 --> 00:25:45,900
percent in economic gains there?
That's it. 

501
00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:47,500
That's a pretty significant 
question. 

502
00:25:47,500 --> 00:25:50,400
I mean, modern civil rights law 
dramatically limits, what you 

503
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,300
can do, I couldn't operate a 
club. 

504
00:25:53,300 --> 00:25:57,000
If it used any kind of resources
from a city, anything like that,

505
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,700
that catered to, for example, 
upper middle-class black men. 

506
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:03,300
I mean, the moment it came out. 
That we had reject not that I 

507
00:26:03,308 --> 00:26:05,700
would probably but I mean the 
moment it came out that we had 

508
00:26:05,700 --> 00:26:09,200
rejected a Caucasian or Asian or
something like that applicant. 

509
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,800
I mean lat the lawsuits would 
begin. 

510
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,700
The business would be destroyed 
again, not something I want to 

511
00:26:13,700 --> 00:26:17,000
do, but should you have the 
right to do that in the absence 

512
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,100
of a formalized legal, right? 
That would be a conversation. 

513
00:26:20,100 --> 00:26:23,400
We could have right now, we 
can't and all that rests on a 

514
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,000
misunderstanding of data. 
So the misuse of numbers and 

515
00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:31,400
these obscure social sciences is
important One of seoul's great 

516
00:26:31,500 --> 00:26:35,000
intellectual contributions. 
I think is his ability to 

517
00:26:35,300 --> 00:26:38,700
analyze. 
The origins of what's referred 

518
00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:43,000
to as Black Culture or even the 
ebonics language finding the 

519
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:46,400
origins in places like England. 
Are you familiar with his 

520
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:49,800
General thesis in Black rednecks
and white liberals? 

521
00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:56,600
Yeah, of course. 
So I think black rednecks and 

522
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:58,600
white liberals is a really 
interesting book. 

523
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:02,900
There's a deeper question. 
So culturalism, we write down a 

524
00:27:02,908 --> 00:27:08,400
few things, hey ve. 
So, first of all Tom's soul is 

525
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,300
one of the most prominent 
Advocates of What's My 

526
00:27:11,300 --> 00:27:15,400
Philosophy, about most things in
terms of human performance which

527
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,100
you could call culturalism. 
So, stripped of a few nonsense 

528
00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:22,200
philosophies in a feminist 
Marxism. 

529
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,800
In the like there are pretty 
much three explanations Ins for 

530
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:28,600
why we see gaps in performance 
between groups. 

531
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,600
And by the way, you know, the 
even Candis. 

532
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,500
And so on again, aside, gaps in 
performance between groups, as a

533
00:27:34,508 --> 00:27:37,700
political scientist are a 
characteristic of every society 

534
00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:41,600
on Earth, you know, the Flemings
and the balloons and Belgium and

535
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,100
the different groups in Nigeria,
some of which have IQ scores 10 

536
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:48,400
points above ours and some of 
which are still living a largely

537
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,400
tribal existence and now the 
wooded Northlands of the country

538
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,900
and so on, I mean, there there 
are massive differences. 

539
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,000
In performance among people of 
the same race and of different 

540
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,800
races in every country, I can 
imagine around the world. 

541
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,400
I mean, I'm thinking about the, 
what does it pre booming, the 

542
00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:09,700
indigenous Malaysians and then 
the Chinese and Malaysia, you 

543
00:28:09,700 --> 00:28:13,300
know, the Indians there occupy a
role between those two groups 

544
00:28:13,500 --> 00:28:15,800
and all these groups are I 
suppose racist toward each 

545
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:17,700
other, but the government 
includes representation from all

546
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:21,900
of them racism, is almost by 
definition, not the reason for 

547
00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,600
these performance gaps. 
So, the idea that performance 

548
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,800
gaps, Or unusual is just wrong. 
It's a provincial American idea.

549
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,700
I don't know any political 
scientist that takes it. 

550
00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:35,000
Seriously some sociologists do 
but leaving the academic 

551
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,600
squabbling aside. 
Their three explanations for. 

552
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:41,100
Why these gaps exist. 
One is what you could call 

553
00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:45,900
critical theory, which is sort 
of the candy and Elizabeth and 

554
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:49,000
realism I just mentioned. 
But the idea is that some kind 

555
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:52,200
of prejudice. 
Generally racial Prejudice on 

556
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,900
the domestic front I guess you 
could argue class prejudiced 

557
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:59,500
More broadly is responsible. 
So eeprom candy basically says 

558
00:28:59,500 --> 00:29:02,400
that all gaps in performance 
between any groups anywhere due 

559
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,300
to racism. 
It's hard for me to take this 

560
00:29:06,300 --> 00:29:09,300
explanation, seriously for the 
reasons that I've just given, if

561
00:29:09,300 --> 00:29:12,200
you, if you look overseas and 
how people perform and so on, 

562
00:29:12,700 --> 00:29:16,700
even in the u.s.a., I mean, for 
example, Asians earn 30% more 

563
00:29:16,700 --> 00:29:19,500
than whites do. 
And it's hard to say, well, 

564
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:22,100
that's because this is an 
institutionally Korean 

565
00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:26,000
supremacist system. 
But decrypt model, The kind of 

566
00:29:26,008 --> 00:29:27,500
makes sense. 
If you apply it to whites and 

567
00:29:27,500 --> 00:29:31,100
blacks, it's essentially that 
all gaps are due to racism some 

568
00:29:31,100 --> 00:29:35,600
form of hidden sophisticated 
racism, the hereditary and model

569
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,500
is a bit clearer. 
It's the oldest of these models 

570
00:29:40,100 --> 00:29:43,600
and it is essentially the 
argument that gaps in 

571
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:47,000
performance between groups are 
due to genetic differences. 

572
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:53,400
So the reason that Asians score 
higher on IQ tests than white 

573
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:57,300
who score more highly than an 
blacks who perform about equally

574
00:29:57,300 --> 00:30:01,200
with Hispanics, who outscore 
natives is genetic differences 

575
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:06,300
that there are gys style 
predictors of intelligence and 

576
00:30:06,300 --> 00:30:09,700
that those vary among population
groups, that's hereditary anism.

577
00:30:11,500 --> 00:30:14,100
And like I said, this is kind of
the simplest of these theories. 

578
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:16,800
I mean the reason there are more
black guys in the NBA is a black

579
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:21,400
eyes, jump a little bit higher. 
The third theory of group 

580
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,300
performance has fallen out of 
fashion for some reason, but to 

581
00:30:24,300 --> 00:30:28,800
me is by The most persuasive and
it's called culturalism. 

582
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:33,000
And the idea is that there may 
be some four percent genetic 

583
00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:35,200
differences between groups. 
But these tend to vary all over 

584
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:38,400
the board, for example, whites 
have slightly better Vision than

585
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,800
blacks. 
I see no reason that if you're 

586
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,700
looking at basketball, that 
would encounter being able to 

587
00:30:43,700 --> 00:30:46,900
jump one inch higher. 
You know, there's this broad 

588
00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:50,400
range of abilities among people 
and the differences seem to be 

589
00:30:50,700 --> 00:30:54,100
generally tiny. 
There's a famous that this is 

590
00:30:54,100 --> 00:30:55,800
just a sideline. 
It's kind of funny but there's a

591
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,900
famous study in the Journal of 
Urology where they actually 

592
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:02,400
measured the penises of 
something like 2,000 men. 

593
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,600
They wanted to test whether 
stereotypes about forgive me. 

594
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,900
Dick, size were real and what 
they found was hilarious. 

595
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,800
First of all, all the penises 
are on average about five inches

596
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:16,400
long and secondarily. 
There were no massive racial 

597
00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,300
group differences. 
I think black guys on average 

598
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:22,200
were like five point, eight 
inches whites were like 5.6 

599
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,300
Asians were like 5.3. 
So like there were there's a Gap

600
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:27,000
there. 
But the, the writer of the study

601
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,500
who is a woman very politely 
said men. 

602
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:32,700
White might want to focus more 
on oral sex and physical health 

603
00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:36,700
than on directly competing. 
The racial gaps are little, 

604
00:31:36,700 --> 00:31:39,600
these are, these are all pretty 
much in the same range and 

605
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:41,800
that's my opinion on the genetic
stuff. 

606
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:45,000
I don't think the racial the 
racism stuff is really worth 

607
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,500
taking, seriously. 
In a lot of situations, I can't 

608
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:51,900
imagine that the reason East 
Indians outperform whites is 

609
00:31:51,900 --> 00:31:54,800
that Society displays some kind 
of subtle biases. 

610
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,400
Against whites and toward East 
Indians. 

611
00:31:56,700 --> 00:32:01,100
But the culturalist perspective 
is simply that on average. 

612
00:32:01,100 --> 00:32:04,900
In each group, there are 
differing percentages of people 

613
00:32:04,900 --> 00:32:08,400
with different interests and 
abilities and levels of training

614
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,400
as the result of a large number 
of different things. 

615
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,600
I mean, what the founder culture
was. 

616
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,200
So the founder culture for black
Americans came from the medieval

617
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,500
level Warrior societies of 
central Africa. 

618
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,900
It was the iron using tribal 
city states that were defeated 

619
00:32:23,900 --> 00:32:25,500
by the Ashanti. 
Adame. 

620
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:27,200
And there were shipped over here
basically. 

621
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:31,900
So that's, that's the Baseline 
some literacy, not much fighter 

622
00:32:31,900 --> 00:32:33,600
cultures. 
Generally, the males are the 

623
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,300
people that came here. 
Then there's encounter culture, 

624
00:32:36,300 --> 00:32:38,800
which is the group of people 
that you run into when your new 

625
00:32:38,800 --> 00:32:41,200
space and this is where we're 
going to get into black rednecks

626
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,500
and white liberal seriously for 
a minute or two, then there are 

627
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:47,100
kind of structural variables 
that don't have anything to do 

628
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:50,000
with racism. 
So I think something that really

629
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,000
impacted the black community is 
that when we got to the north we

630
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,800
got to the North at almost 
exactly the same the same time 

631
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:01,400
Northern cities moved to the 
left and stop kind of kicking 

632
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:03,900
the white trash out of the Irish
and the Italians, if you will. 

633
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:06,200
So, there'd been brutal. 
Anti-crime. 

634
00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:09,400
Policies for a long time in New 
York, or Providence like Patty. 

635
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,500
Wagon is a term that has a 
Genesis and that stopped when 

636
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:16,900
black people got there. 
So, I mean, you saw black 

637
00:33:16,900 --> 00:33:19,400
migrants arrive from the south 
with a culture that was at least

638
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,700
on par with the Irish migrants. 
At the same time, people stopped

639
00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:25,900
enforcing the law. 
So you start cloward and Piven 

640
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:29,100
welfare, if you're familiar with
that check started coming out 

641
00:33:29,100 --> 00:33:31,600
early in the 1970s, you couldn't
have a man in the house to 

642
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,900
receive what at the time, was a 
pretty good supplement of money.

643
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,200
And so, you saw black families 
collapse. 

644
00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:39,400
For this reason, I had nothing 
to do with racism, nothing to do

645
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:45,200
with genes between 1945 and 
1985. 

646
00:33:45,300 --> 00:33:48,200
The blackie legitimacy rate went
from about 10 percent to about 

647
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,400
70 percent. 
So that's that's culturalism or 

648
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,500
that systems theory, like 
they're all these things Tribute

649
00:33:54,500 --> 00:33:59,000
to this founder culture and 
counterculture variables, other 

650
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:02,000
than Prejudice, you'd have to 
throw in past bias. 

651
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,200
I mean, I frankly assume 
Southern written X and blacks 

652
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:07,400
hated each other as a great deal
of black and back and forth 

653
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,199
violence with them, getting the 
better of it. 

654
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,400
So how does that does that 
contribute to your attitude 

655
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,199
toward whites? 
Which we certainly see. 

656
00:34:13,199 --> 00:34:15,199
There's a large amount of 
black-on-white crime, it's never

657
00:34:15,199 --> 00:34:18,100
discussed. 
So all of this makes the culture

658
00:34:18,100 --> 00:34:21,100
that you have at a given time. 
So I'm a culture list, I mean 

659
00:34:21,100 --> 00:34:23,699
there might be two percent 
potential IQ differences cause 

660
00:34:23,699 --> 00:34:26,100
my G Jeans or racism or 
something, but I think when you 

661
00:34:26,100 --> 00:34:28,699
look at like levels of black 
crime in Baltimore like that, 

662
00:34:28,699 --> 00:34:31,500
something as the mayor of 
Baltimore, I think I could 

663
00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:35,500
reduce that by 90% if I were 
given full range to do so the 

664
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:38,300
odds of that happening would 
given the methods involved and 

665
00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:43,400
so on are zero like 0.0% but I 
think that those cultural or 

666
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:46,699
systemic variables are pretty 
key and kind of back on track. 

667
00:34:46,699 --> 00:34:50,900
I mean black rednecks is just 
Soul explaining culturalism and 

668
00:34:50,900 --> 00:34:55,500
he says this a very important 
point that Leaders like this 

669
00:34:55,500 --> 00:34:59,800
kind of trendy idea that Black 
Culture came from Africa and 

670
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:03,000
that specifically, it came from 
the great powers of Africa, that

671
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:05,300
sometimes fought the British 
about evenly and that had the 

672
00:35:05,500 --> 00:35:08,300
cool kente cloth. 
And then that the, the dope 

673
00:35:08,300 --> 00:35:10,300
hats. 
I mean, like the Ashanti and the

674
00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:13,100
banana and so on. 
And he points out that there's 

675
00:35:13,100 --> 00:35:15,100
no evidence for this at all. 
Like those are actually the 

676
00:35:15,100 --> 00:35:17,400
enemies of the people that 
became black Americans who beat 

677
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,700
us and sent us over here. 
Like, there's very little by me 

678
00:35:20,700 --> 00:35:22,700
bluntly real. 
There's very little of the 

679
00:35:22,700 --> 00:35:26,300
language of those groups. 
Oops, in avf can American 

680
00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:30,800
vernacular English and doing a 
basic obvious analysis that I've

681
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,900
never seen anyone else to do. 
He Compares about 200 words in 

682
00:35:35,500 --> 00:35:38,600
white trash dialect. 
Like Scottish Highland redneck 

683
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,300
dialect with African American 
vernacular English and he 

684
00:35:41,308 --> 00:35:44,800
actually finds the overlap. 
There's like 98.6% that these 

685
00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:47,200
two groups live next to one 
another and fought each other 

686
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:51,400
for 200 years and began to 
behave very, similarly and 

687
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,800
written X, quote-unquote, today,
still have a Early High rate of 

688
00:35:54,808 --> 00:35:59,000
violence so on, but unlike their
white competitors Southern 

689
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:02,800
blacks migrated to the north to 
seek out specific jobs or what 

690
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,300
we're becoming majority black 
cities. 

691
00:36:04,700 --> 00:36:07,400
So you took a culture, that 
would have been 90 percent. 

692
00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,300
Is problematic had Appalachian 
whites brought it up, but you 

693
00:36:10,300 --> 00:36:14,900
took it in massive numbers to 
Detroit, Memphis cities like 

694
00:36:14,900 --> 00:36:19,400
that, and that became Urban 
slum, culture, Urban slum 

695
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:23,100
culture was Black, ex white 
redneck culture. 

696
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,300
Stood two cities where the law 
was no longer followed and it's 

697
00:36:27,300 --> 00:36:29,700
a really Innovative explanation.
I don't know whether it's 

698
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:32,800
entirely true, but it's hard not
to see a lot of that. 

699
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,500
I mean, if you're on a bus with 
a bunch of hood, black dudes, I 

700
00:36:35,500 --> 00:36:39,600
mean, the language used, I'm 
finna get mines, is exactly what

701
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:43,600
you would hear in regions of 
Appalachia, where I travel right

702
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,100
hunt or something like that. 
So, it seems a lot more 

703
00:36:46,100 --> 00:36:50,400
plausible that that is the 
inspiratory or for violent, 

704
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,600
Urban culture than the those 
characteristics somehow came 

705
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,300
here. 
From long ago, African 

706
00:36:56,300 --> 00:37:00,200
populations. 
I love that you brought up a 

707
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:02,800
cloward and Piven. 
Did you ever see Frances Fox 

708
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,700
Piven? 
Debating Thomas, Soul know. 

709
00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:07,100
I pay a lot of money to see that
though. 

710
00:37:07,100 --> 00:37:09,200
Know what was her side of the 
debate? 

711
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,000
I mean that she was anointed 
policy. 

712
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,200
We know didn't work. 
Yeah, so she was saying, well, 

713
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,600
it was these affirmative action 
policies that black Americans 

714
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,600
fought for for so long and he 
interrupts her. 

715
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,600
He goes, no, damn it. 
That's the idea is that you put 

716
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,000
in the mouths of black 
Americans, blacks have never 

717
00:37:25,700 --> 00:37:28,500
more than 30 percent supported. 
A b and c policy. 

718
00:37:28,700 --> 00:37:33,600
She is the perfect person for 
excuse me, for the anointed 

719
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,700
Vision. 
I mean, every single 

720
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:38,100
shortcoming. 
We are just like two pieces of 

721
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:42,400
legislation and a few tax points
away from just having a 

722
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,600
solution. 
Speaking of the word solution, 

723
00:37:44,900 --> 00:37:47,100
one of my favorite quotes from 
him. 

724
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:53,700
I want to say it's in a conflict
of Visions where he mentions 

725
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:55,800
that there are no Solutions 
only. 

726
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:58,500
Trade-offs, I can find the page 
because I had forgotten that 

727
00:37:58,700 --> 00:38:02,600
What what does that mean? 
There are no Solutions only 

728
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,700
trade-offs. 
Well I think that I'm glad you 

729
00:38:05,700 --> 00:38:08,500
brought that up because even as 
versus the idea of the anointed 

730
00:38:08,500 --> 00:38:12,100
versus the tragic Vision that 
maybe Souls best quote on 

731
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,400
leadership, that may be the best
quote on leadership I've ever 

732
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:17,500
heard. 
Actually what it means is that 

733
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:20,100
you can't directly solve 
problems. 

734
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:23,500
Excuse me, without externalities
that are massively - and this is

735
00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:28,300
something people forget when you
look at leaders especially young

736
00:38:28,300 --> 00:38:31,500
and - you know, Junior 
Executives or just tenured 

737
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:35,400
faculty, there's a desire to 
take this on and knock out this 

738
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,200
problem. 
Like we're going to solve world 

739
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,600
hunger and I used to feel this 
way, I mean I volunteered with 

740
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,500
Habitat, for Humanity, the Human
Rights Campaign, just so on down

741
00:38:43,500 --> 00:38:45,900
the line, I actually love doing 
good works. 

742
00:38:46,300 --> 00:38:49,800
We just ran a GoFundMe page for 
a major health care procedure 

743
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:55,200
through my Twitter, my social, 
but I think that as you get 

744
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,900
older you understand that 
there's no such thing as Is just

745
00:38:58,900 --> 00:39:01,300
solving a problem without 
externalities. 

746
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:05,300
What you're generally doing is 
sacrificing a massive amount of 

747
00:39:05,300 --> 00:39:09,100
money or Freedom or something 
else to resolve the issue and 

748
00:39:09,100 --> 00:39:10,900
soul in his books. 
And yeah it is a conflict of 

749
00:39:10,908 --> 00:39:12,700
Visions. 
I believe explains how this 

750
00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:16,100
works in practice. 
So one of the things is Airline 

751
00:39:16,100 --> 00:39:19,600
safety like in the 70s and 80s, 
we honestly used to have very 

752
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:23,400
poor Airline safety. 
You know there was a situation 

753
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,900
where a baby was ripped out of 
his mother's arms, his mother. 

754
00:39:25,900 --> 00:39:28,000
By the way he's holding a drink.
Like she's a nice lady. 

755
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,400
It's The most the stories, but 
this one you could drink on 

756
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,700
Poise. 
You still drink applies when you

757
00:39:31,700 --> 00:39:34,100
drink a lot on planes. 
So, I mean, you imagine this 

758
00:39:34,100 --> 00:39:38,000
where you have the, the ashtrays
and the arm rests and, you know,

759
00:39:38,100 --> 00:39:41,100
everyone in the Rose, holding a 
martini glass, and you got a 

760
00:39:41,107 --> 00:39:43,800
baby just under your arm. 
Is this is old-school. 

761
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,400
Aviation people like hooking up 
in the bathroom. 

762
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,200
The pilot is sitting up there 
singing. 

763
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:53,100
This is business travel at this 
point and they hit some 

764
00:39:53,100 --> 00:39:56,100
turbulent air and people get 
hurt like someone falls down 

765
00:39:56,100 --> 00:39:58,400
injures their leg and the baby. 
This is the important point is 

766
00:39:58,500 --> 00:40:01,500
Ripped out, the mother's arms 
thrown across hits, the cabin 

767
00:40:01,500 --> 00:40:04,000
door to that time is old school 
hardwood and is killed. 

768
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:06,300
I assume horribly head 
shattered, probably blood and 

769
00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:09,300
brains on the ground, and the 
response to this is, well, we're

770
00:40:09,300 --> 00:40:12,000
going to fix up a lot of this. 
We're no none of these Antics. 

771
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,600
But even at the first level, 
even if you cut drinking on 

772
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,300
planes by half, even if you made
everyone sit down the entire 

773
00:40:18,300 --> 00:40:21,500
flight, you're massively 
inconveniencing hundreds of 

774
00:40:21,500 --> 00:40:24,500
millions of people. 
So I mean, I would say you can 

775
00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:27,300
put a dollar value on that, 
maybe fifty dollars per person 

776
00:40:27,500 --> 00:40:30,600
and you could ask whether The 
loss of one life every 10 years,

777
00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,900
valued at the usual 10 million 
dollars by the actuaries, 

778
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:37,500
whether that is worth that move,
that sounds cold and brutal. 

779
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:42,000
But I mean we don't Harden the 
tires of every car or lower the 

780
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,200
speed limit every time someone's
killed in an auto wreck. 

781
00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:46,900
So, even at that first level, do
you make this massive move? 

782
00:40:46,900 --> 00:40:49,900
Do you remove the social 
amenities on planes? 

783
00:40:49,900 --> 00:40:53,300
Do you keep the seat belt? 
Sign fought on the entire 

784
00:40:53,300 --> 00:40:54,600
flight? 
Affecting people with bladder 

785
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:55,900
issues. 
Do do all this in response to 

786
00:40:55,900 --> 00:40:58,000
one death but we didn't just do 
this. 

787
00:40:58,100 --> 00:41:01,900
I mean we Mandated the purchase 
of seats for infants, we 

788
00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:04,300
mandated strap Downs, with, can 
themselves be quite dangerous 

789
00:41:04,300 --> 00:41:06,300
for infants. 
I believe you have to use a sort

790
00:41:06,300 --> 00:41:08,400
of baby seat on a plane, 
although they give it to you. 

791
00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:11,700
I don't know, I haven't flown 
with an infant, but I mean, all 

792
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:14,600
of this stuff was done in 
response to the situation that 

793
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,900
killed one person that hurt one 
person and soul points out that 

794
00:41:17,900 --> 00:41:21,200
the total cost of it was 
something like 1.8 billion, not 

795
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,000
massive, but pretty high. 
I mean enough to affect the 

796
00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:27,300
ticket of everyone. 
Flying on that Airline by about 

797
00:41:27,300 --> 00:41:29,600
25 dollars. 
Let's Date for the next couple 

798
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:33,300
of years, down the road and he 
makes the obvious point that if 

799
00:41:33,300 --> 00:41:36,300
even a thousand people didn't 
fly because of that, that led to

800
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:40,400
one death and obviously it would
be more people than that. 

801
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Like if all tickets increased by
dollar amount X more than $20, 

802
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,900
more than 20 years ago and you 
had to buy separate seats for 

803
00:41:47,900 --> 00:41:51,400
infants doubling the cost of 
your flight and you are no 

804
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,000
longer allowed to do certain 
things in the flight becomes 

805
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,200
much more unpleasant. 
I think we've all flown modern 

806
00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,600
commercial you know non first 
class air Are tens of thousands 

807
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,700
of people were probably like 
fuck it. 

808
00:42:02,700 --> 00:42:05,900
I'm going to drive the issue 
with this is that it's much more

809
00:42:05,900 --> 00:42:09,200
dangerous to drive than to fly. 
The the range of negative 

810
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:12,000
externalities had just 
skyrocketed sharply upward. 

811
00:42:12,200 --> 00:42:15,400
So in reality saving the life of
the next baby and we've never 

812
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,800
had a baby killed like that 
again although I will know we 

813
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,400
had never previously had a baby 
killed like that was an unusual 

814
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:23,000
freak accident but saving the 
life of the next baby. 

815
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:29,200
Probably cost, 15 20 lives and 
that's what Is meant by there 

816
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:31,500
are no Solutions, they're only 
trade-offs. 

817
00:42:31,900 --> 00:42:35,600
Do you, when you see the brain 
spattered against the bulkhead, 

818
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:38,800
do you make some basic changes? 
Like, not allowing mothers with 

819
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,700
babies, for example, to consume 
alcohol or monitoring that row? 

820
00:42:42,700 --> 00:42:44,500
Very closely. 
I mean, either certainly things 

821
00:42:44,500 --> 00:42:47,400
I would do, you know what that 
to happen, but do it again. 

822
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:49,600
I've read different stories on 
this, I don't know. 

823
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:52,000
No one's saying to the mother 
was drunk or anything like that.

824
00:42:52,300 --> 00:42:53,400
We don't know the details of 
case. 

825
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:57,200
But like, do you do something 
like that or do you on the the 

826
00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:01,100
other hand change, everything 
about the plane and raise the 

827
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:03,600
price of the tickets and kill a 
bunch of people. 

828
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:07,400
And I think a lot of people move
toward option to they're saying,

829
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:12,900
I'm going to permanently fix 
this issue and that may not be 

830
00:43:12,900 --> 00:43:15,200
the best way to go about this, 
so that that's Souls Point. 

831
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:21,800
Yeah, I have seen a number of 
examples of this one is to say 

832
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:25,400
that, well, what we have are 
people that earn low amounts of 

833
00:43:25,400 --> 00:43:29,300
money, the way we solve this, 
Shoe is we raise the minimum 

834
00:43:29,300 --> 00:43:33,000
wage this way? 
No one's able to pay someone so 

835
00:43:33,000 --> 00:43:35,500
little. 
Well it turns out this increases

836
00:43:35,500 --> 00:43:38,800
the likelihood of someone never 
getting a job opportunity in the

837
00:43:38,808 --> 00:43:42,300
first place until they're much 
older, and then they're less 

838
00:43:42,300 --> 00:43:44,000
desirable. 
And since they never got their 

839
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,400
foot in the door to get on the 
job skills, it's harder for them

840
00:43:47,600 --> 00:43:49,800
when they get older to compete 
with other people. 

841
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:53,400
So they have fewer skills, they 
have less money because it's 

842
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,400
more expensive people like 
Amazon and Walmart could easily 

843
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,100
grow. 
Smaller businesses can't 

844
00:43:58,100 --> 00:44:00,000
compete. 
So now, consumers have less 

845
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,000
options. 
Now, employees have less places 

846
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:04,300
to go. 
So the more you raise these 

847
00:44:04,300 --> 00:44:07,200
hurdles without ever, 
considering the secondary costs,

848
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:11,300
it's just such an important 
introduction into how you can 

849
00:44:11,300 --> 00:44:15,400
start to analyze things. 
There is another book. 

850
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:18,100
Titled applied economics, 
Thinking Beyond stage one. 

851
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,700
Where Seoul says, the voters 
political decisions involve 

852
00:44:21,800 --> 00:44:25,500
having a minut influence on 
policies, which affect many 

853
00:44:25,500 --> 00:44:28,800
other people while economic 
Session making is about having a

854
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:32,100
major effect on one's own 
personal well-being. 

855
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:36,700
My understanding here is that 
he's saying, look, people are 

856
00:44:36,700 --> 00:44:40,100
ignorant about politics, but 
it's rational for them to do so 

857
00:44:40,300 --> 00:44:43,300
because you could spend 
thousands of hours and maybe 

858
00:44:43,300 --> 00:44:46,600
understand agricultural 
subsidies, but you're still 

859
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,300
going to get a one in 100 
million vote and that's not 

860
00:44:49,300 --> 00:44:52,100
really going to tip. 
And it even if your guy wins 

861
00:44:52,100 --> 00:44:54,100
because of your vote, he's 
probably a liar. 

862
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:57,300
So people don't really get 
involved politically Lee. 

863
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,400
What do you think about this as 
a potential explanation? 

864
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,700
Rational this sort of rational 
irrationalities about why the 

865
00:45:06,700 --> 00:45:10,500
average person who might say, I 
love politics is still very 

866
00:45:10,500 --> 00:45:13,800
ignorant empirically. 
I think it's probably true. 

867
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:15,400
I will say this is the last 
line. 

868
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:18,200
I feel kind of guilty about my 
description of the, the mom and 

869
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,100
the the previous scenario, like 
accounts of, you know, whether 

870
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,200
all the people on this plane 
were drinking. 

871
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:26,400
And so, on vary, from what I've 
seen, so no one's blaming her 

872
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:27,900
for this. 
This Terrible accident. 

873
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:31,100
The my point is just the 
over-reaction damaged, a lot of 

874
00:45:31,100 --> 00:45:34,300
people so but moving on, because
that's pretty much it. 

875
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:40,700
The thing about voting, I think 
that your point, your analysis 

876
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:44,700
is good, voting is not actually,
this is kind of taboo for 

877
00:45:44,700 --> 00:45:47,700
political scientist to say but 
voting is actually an irrational

878
00:45:47,700 --> 00:45:52,000
waste of time. 
Most of the time to some extent,

879
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,100
you're very very unlikely to 
sway. 

880
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:59,000
The result of an election by 
Your vote even when people talk 

881
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:03,800
about very close, intense races.
And so on Bush, V Gore. 

882
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,000
I mean the margin and you're 
talking about one state, not one

883
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:10,500
of our three biggest, I mean the
margin was 500 votes before they

884
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,700
got into the Chad's. 
There's a very, very little 

885
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:15,100
chance. 
You personally are going to 

886
00:46:15,107 --> 00:46:18,300
impact an election. 
I vote as a kind of wrote civic 

887
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:21,400
duty in the way I go to church 
on Christmas and Easter. 

888
00:46:21,700 --> 00:46:24,500
And I most political scientists.
I know don't vote at all, to be 

889
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:27,800
honest. 
So yeah, I think Sit when you're

890
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:32,100
saying that it's rational not to
engage too much with the issues.

891
00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:38,900
I think that's probably correct.
The one issue with that though 

892
00:46:38,900 --> 00:46:42,500
is that in understanding what's 
going on in the world. 

893
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:47,900
Also impacts almost literally 
everything else you do so for 

894
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:52,000
example if you invest knowing 
that Jim Cramer is almost always

895
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:57,000
wrong or that climate change is 
not going to destroy the world. 

896
00:46:57,100 --> 00:46:59,500
World but that there are things 
people are going to do in 

897
00:46:59,500 --> 00:47:01,200
response. 
So I'm investing in Seawall 

898
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,500
companies that kind of thing. 
I mean, that's all very useful. 

899
00:47:04,500 --> 00:47:07,100
So I mean that would require 
reading up on climate change or 

900
00:47:07,100 --> 00:47:09,700
reading up on the failures of 
the media, the Business Media 

901
00:47:09,700 --> 00:47:11,500
song. 
So, I mean, I've read both of 

902
00:47:11,508 --> 00:47:14,600
those books recently and they 
were fascinating and the same 

903
00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:19,700
thing really worth anything else
just to minimize personal fear, 

904
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,000
you know, you might be 
interested in looking at the 

905
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,500
numbers on black lives matter, 
on the left, how many people 

906
00:47:26,500 --> 00:47:29,100
actually are? 
Killed by police officers or the

907
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:31,800
equivalent on the right. 
How many white women are raped 

908
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,800
to death by gangs of black men 
or illegal immigrants and when 

909
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,500
you realize that the number on 
both sides is 18 or something 

910
00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:39,000
like that. 
There's going to be a dramatic 

911
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,400
effect on your personal mental 
health. 

912
00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:45,000
So I encourage people to get as 
much knowledge as possible. 

913
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:48,500
I mean you you want to be aware 
that you generally shouldn't be 

914
00:47:48,500 --> 00:47:51,700
afraid. 
Most of the time you want to be,

915
00:47:52,900 --> 00:47:56,800
you know, able to do other 
things like make money in the 

916
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:57,700
market. 
Market. 

917
00:47:57,700 --> 00:48:00,100
You want to be able to judge a 
media and talk trash when you 

918
00:48:00,107 --> 00:48:02,300
watch political Sports media 
with your friends. 

919
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:05,400
But you, I mean you want to be 
able to vote in local elections.

920
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:07,600
I mean, they a lot of these 
elections were things are 

921
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,400
critical are, for example, 
School Board races where an 

922
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,300
accurate understanding of the 
lies on both the left and the 

923
00:48:13,300 --> 00:48:15,700
right about CRT could help me 
pick a candidate. 

924
00:48:15,700 --> 00:48:18,100
And where the winning candidates
going to get 12 votes. 

925
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:21,700
I mean, so there's a lot to be 
said about gaining knowledge but

926
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:24,800
when it comes to voting and 
National races, I mean when 

927
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,900
people criticize individuals for
just In the donkey or the 

928
00:48:27,900 --> 00:48:32,200
elephant or not really going 
deep into the issues that are 

929
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:35,000
being discussed, Ukraine. 
Yeah, that that's likely a 

930
00:48:35,008 --> 00:48:37,600
rational choice because quite 
frankly, whether Ukraine or 

931
00:48:37,607 --> 00:48:40,700
Russia wins is going to have no 
impact on your life whatsoever. 

932
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,800
I mean, in the, at the 
presidential level, I mean, 

933
00:48:45,700 --> 00:48:49,400
Whether Kamala Harris or Rhonda 
Santa's I think biting and Trump

934
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,100
are both of that level of 
daughter and where they could do

935
00:48:51,100 --> 00:48:54,300
real damage, but whether Kamala 
Harris are Rhonda Santa's wins 

936
00:48:54,300 --> 00:48:56,400
in most ways. 
If you're in an independent 

937
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:58,300
state with a strong, Governor 
isn't going to affect her life, 

938
00:48:58,300 --> 00:49:01,100
very much. 
So, people behave appropriately,

939
00:49:01,100 --> 00:49:04,000
they, they take the citizenship 
Duty, they walk into the booth 

940
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,600
they spend four hours on it, but
no, I mean, people don't deeply 

941
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,900
prepare themselves for elections
and that's because we're not a 

942
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:12,500
city-state of 50,000 people. 
I mean, they're close to 400 

943
00:49:12,500 --> 00:49:16,600
million Americans. 
So wrote a book called knowledge

944
00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:22,000
and decisions, tell me what what
you think this means and if and 

945
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,600
I hope I'm not repeating myself 
from the anointed book, but I 

946
00:49:25,607 --> 00:49:27,100
think this is a different 
analysis. 

947
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:30,800
He says the use of knowledge in 
decision-making processes 

948
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,900
affecting social well-being. 
Depends not only on the supply 

949
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:38,500
of ideas which are usually 
abundant but on some process of 

950
00:49:38,500 --> 00:49:43,500
authentication to weed out and 
reshape those ideas in the light

951
00:49:43,500 --> 00:49:45,800
of faith. 
Back from actual experience, 

952
00:49:45,900 --> 00:49:48,200
resulting from their 
application. 

953
00:49:48,700 --> 00:49:52,100
So how do we know if something 
is a tradition that's been 

954
00:49:52,100 --> 00:49:55,500
around for a thousand years? 
How do we know if that's the way

955
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:59,800
to do things versus a new way? 
Is there some system that we 

956
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,700
could start embracing? 
So we could make sure we find 

957
00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:07,600
the balance between embracing 
tradition and still engaging in 

958
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:11,200
progress. 
Well, yeah, I mean so I think it

959
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,800
one level one of the few things 
I've ever said it. 

960
00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:16,700
A speech that got me booed was 
that you need liberals and 

961
00:50:16,700 --> 00:50:18,700
conservatives? 
And I think the audience is made

962
00:50:18,700 --> 00:50:21,100
up of a mix of liberals and 
conservatives and neither side 

963
00:50:21,100 --> 00:50:22,700
like that. 
So people just started sort of 

964
00:50:22,700 --> 00:50:27,100
jokingly but really booing and 
hissing but I mean the reality 

965
00:50:27,100 --> 00:50:29,400
is that that's true to some 
extent like the role of the 

966
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:33,300
conservative is to defend and 
maintain working and functional 

967
00:50:33,300 --> 00:50:36,100
traditions. 
And the role of the liberal is 

968
00:50:36,100 --> 00:50:38,600
to propose new somewhat better 
ideas. 

969
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,200
And both of these are obviously 
essential. 

970
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,800
I mean, you know, 1500 Norman 
England. 

971
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,100
Lynn was a very functional 
Society. 

972
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:49,000
Produced Noble Knight, some of 
the most beautiful art we've 

973
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,500
ever seen, but at the same time,
I don't think anyone today would

974
00:50:52,500 --> 00:50:57,500
say that there were no ways to 
improve on that Society with it 

975
00:50:57,600 --> 00:51:01,200
hereditary semi absolute monarch
and so on down the line I mean I

976
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,900
averaged the GDP per capita is 
probably on the order of a 

977
00:51:03,908 --> 00:51:06,300
thousand dollars. 
Almost 70 was a peasant farmer 

978
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:13,700
and tapeworms were real issue so
that Duality is necessary. 

979
00:51:14,100 --> 00:51:17,000
To some extent. 
The I tend to lean more toward 

980
00:51:17,000 --> 00:51:19,600
the conservative side, because 
most new ideas are new, 

981
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:24,100
mutations are very bad. 
So, I mean, generally, when the 

982
00:51:24,100 --> 00:51:28,200
intelligent left suggest an idea
like, why don't we defund the 

983
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:31,100
police and transfer, that money 
to social workers. 

984
00:51:31,500 --> 00:51:35,600
It's a parent for a series of 
logical reasons that this idea 

985
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,200
is bad. 
And why this idea is bad and the

986
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:43,400
goal of the kind of quantitative
serious business. 

987
00:51:43,900 --> 00:51:46,900
Agricultural so on, right? 
Has to be to smack, that idea, 

988
00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:50,600
down knock it off the stage. 
Move on people often ask is the 

989
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,400
left ever lost a battle in the 
culture where? 

990
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,900
Yeah, they lose almost all of 
the battles in the culture War 

991
00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:57,900
actually, the only problem is 
that the media is so complicit 

992
00:51:57,900 --> 00:52:00,500
with the political left that 
then they're immediately memory 

993
00:52:00,500 --> 00:52:03,500
hold. 
But, I mean, anything from the 

994
00:52:03,500 --> 00:52:06,300
teaching of hard, gender 
ideology to kids, which is about

995
00:52:06,300 --> 00:52:09,500
to become a defeat at least in 
the heartland of the USA to 

996
00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:11,400
defunding the police, where, you
know, have mr. 

997
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:13,800
Biden standing on stage as 
saying, we support research. 

998
00:52:13,900 --> 00:52:15,300
Refunding. 
The police at a higher level 

999
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:18,300
than ever before. 
All of those were left block, 

1000
00:52:18,300 --> 00:52:21,300
cultural, and political defeats.
So that's, that's the role of 

1001
00:52:21,300 --> 00:52:24,800
the right saying, no, we run the
models, you're not moving 

1002
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:28,500
Society forward doing this. 
Even the idea that masking 

1003
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:31,700
should become a permanent thing 
after covid is something that's 

1004
00:52:31,700 --> 00:52:34,100
supported by more than 40% of 
left-wingers. 

1005
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:37,000
It's absolutely not going to be 
tolerated by sort of the 

1006
00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:38,700
business class, the mainstream, 
right? 

1007
00:52:38,700 --> 00:52:41,000
Is stop that. 
So, that is a culture War 

1008
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,100
defeat. 
You might see a few isolated. 

1009
00:52:43,900 --> 00:52:46,600
Images, you know putting masks 
on the poor little bastards for 

1010
00:52:46,600 --> 00:52:49,500
a year or two but it that's not 
going to be what they would have

1011
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:51,800
liked it to be which is what you
see if you do business in 

1012
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:55,100
Singapore, or Hong Kong people 
walking around with the cuffs on

1013
00:52:55,100 --> 00:52:57,300
their face for six months out of
the year. 

1014
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,800
So the goal of the left is to 
propose, new ideas, the cup on 

1015
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:04,100
your face, the goal of the right
is to strike down the bad ones 

1016
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,000
but obviously there are good 
left-wing ideas. 

1017
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,400
I mean, so for example, I don't 
think gay marriage is something 

1018
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:14,400
that the mainstream right is 
going to attempt to strike down 

1019
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:17,500
again. 
I certainly would not be part of

1020
00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:20,600
that campaign. 
I don't think that there's much 

1021
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,300
to gain from it. 
I mean, to the extent that 

1022
00:53:23,308 --> 00:53:25,600
Eileen libertarian, I don't, I'm
not sure. 

1023
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:27,000
I think the state should be 
involved in marriage in the 

1024
00:53:27,008 --> 00:53:32,400
first place, but that's that is 
not a thing that appeals much to

1025
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,500
me or that would improve life 
for my country, man, you know. 

1026
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:37,500
So every now and then, they get 
one, right? 

1027
00:53:37,500 --> 00:53:40,800
And we move forward. 
What soul is saying. 

1028
00:53:41,700 --> 00:53:43,900
I think and knowledge and 
decisions is one of the books. 

1029
00:53:43,900 --> 00:53:46,500
I've only read once. 
It's not a book I've engaged in 

1030
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:50,100
at Great length. 
But yeah, I mean, he's obviously

1031
00:53:50,100 --> 00:53:54,900
saying that there has to be a 
way to look at or to review the 

1032
00:53:54,900 --> 00:53:58,300
thousands or the millions of 
ideas out there that are taken 

1033
00:53:58,300 --> 00:54:00,400
seriously across the 
philosophies across the 

1034
00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,800
religions, across the political 
perspectives, and decide which 

1035
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:07,500
ones have worked and which ones 
to pursue going forward. 

1036
00:54:07,700 --> 00:54:10,300
I mean, looking at this from a 
sinner right perspective in the 

1037
00:54:10,300 --> 00:54:14,700
sense of when we should Ange 
what we already have? 

1038
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,800
My comment would be that it's 
fairly easy to review, how 

1039
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,000
effective systems are to some 
extent. 

1040
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,500
How content do most people say 
they are with the current 

1041
00:54:23,500 --> 00:54:26,500
Constitution, how happy your 
most people in traditional 

1042
00:54:26,500 --> 00:54:29,700
marriages and so on. 
I mean, if you ask people about 

1043
00:54:29,700 --> 00:54:31,800
features of their marriage, I 
mean, this is something that 

1044
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,600
happened during a feminist 
movement in the 70s, which do 

1045
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,600
people dislike. 
And I mean, when that actually 

1046
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,000
occurred women strongly opposed 
the idea that they weren't 

1047
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,600
allowed to do things without 
their husband's consent, so 

1048
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:46,400
until 1973 as crazy as this 
sounds, you needed your 

1049
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:49,200
husband's formal signature onto 
documents to take out a credit 

1050
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:49,900
card. 
As a woman. 

1051
00:54:50,500 --> 00:54:53,400
I believe even men needed their 
wife to consent for certain 

1052
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:56,100
kinds of credit certain sorts of
loan arrangements and couples 

1053
00:54:56,100 --> 00:54:58,400
did not like this, especially 
women, I'm sure were 

1054
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:00,700
disadvantaged so that that was 
changed. 

1055
00:55:00,700 --> 00:55:03,500
The law was changed, Banks. 
Gradually dropped this policy. 

1056
00:55:03,500 --> 00:55:06,200
You saw some young newer Banks 
spring up, the didn't require 

1057
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:07,800
this and that was, that was 
removed. 

1058
00:55:08,900 --> 00:55:12,600
So I think that feedback from 
People about which ideas 

1059
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:16,400
working, which ideas don't is 
still the best way to determine 

1060
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:20,700
which ideas are successful. 
This actually gets into all the 

1061
00:55:20,700 --> 00:55:22,600
books we've been talking about 
so far. 

1062
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:26,500
In fact, because I again in a 
tragic Vision guy, I think that 

1063
00:55:26,500 --> 00:55:32,400
the best process of review is 
broadly sourced national public 

1064
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,200
what. 
I'm grappling for a word here 

1065
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:38,200
but involving all of the people 
capitalist might be the word. 

1066
00:55:38,900 --> 00:55:41,000
Someone with the vision of the 
anointed, would probably say 

1067
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:44,000
that the the best review of 
whether a policy work is a small

1068
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:48,300
panel from the anointed. 
I don't I don't think that's the

1069
00:55:48,300 --> 00:55:51,800
case and to give an example of 
this in practice, right? 

1070
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,500
Are you familiar with Rotten 
Tomatoes The found viewing 

1071
00:55:54,500 --> 00:55:57,700
website? 
One of the there's a weird 

1072
00:55:57,700 --> 00:56:00,700
phenomenon that we're seeing on 
Artie right now especially when 

1073
00:56:00,700 --> 00:56:04,300
it comes to quote unquote 
content where a whole community 

1074
00:56:04,300 --> 00:56:07,200
of Wikipedia Style. 
Movie nerds has grown up around 

1075
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:10,900
Rotten Tomatoes. 
My partner is in it and every 

1076
00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:13,500
time I He comes out. 
Thousands of people will watch 

1077
00:56:13,500 --> 00:56:16,600
either the fell more the bootleg
and they will brutally review 

1078
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:19,200
it, good or bad and they will 
upload that review within a day 

1079
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,800
and that the Rotten Tomatoes is 
known for that films, have a 

1080
00:56:21,808 --> 00:56:25,300
million reviews and the audience
scores range from like six 

1081
00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:27,700
percent to 100 percent, the 
audience scores are almost 

1082
00:56:27,700 --> 00:56:31,000
entirely accurate. 
In my opinion, I fall within 

1083
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:34,900
five points of every audience 
score for a movie that I watched

1084
00:56:34,900 --> 00:56:38,400
recently, which is what you'd 
expect with a source pool of a 

1085
00:56:38,408 --> 00:56:40,500
million. 
That's not even a random sample.

1086
00:56:40,500 --> 00:56:44,400
It's just a Ation, you know, I 
mean so the other the flip side 

1087
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,100
though, is it Rotten Tomatoes, 
still uses another metric, which

1088
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:51,800
is the hundred fifty film review
columns in the country and major

1089
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,700
Publications and they are always
wrong. 

1090
00:56:54,900 --> 00:56:58,900
There's always an incredible 
dichotomy between the film 

1091
00:56:58,900 --> 00:57:02,800
reviewers standard and the 
audience is standard. 

1092
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,200
So, with the recent conservative
documentary, what is a woman, 

1093
00:57:06,700 --> 00:57:09,100
which is hilarious, which I 
strongly recommend watching, 

1094
00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:12,100
whether you're cheering for, 
Matt Walsh for his It's just 

1095
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:14,400
funny. 
It's him talking to gender 

1096
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:15,800
experts. 
Some of whom are quite witty 

1097
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:18,300
themselves about these basic 
questions. 

1098
00:57:18,300 --> 00:57:22,700
Like, do you think a person with
a vagina is a female and it's 

1099
00:57:22,700 --> 00:57:24,500
laugh out loud hilarious. 
I think wall school. 

1100
00:57:24,500 --> 00:57:26,700
Also gets the better the 
exchanges, but it's obviously 

1101
00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:31,700
very Politically Incorrect. 
So if you go to Rotten Tomatoes 

1102
00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:35,200
audience score for what is a 
woman I think is 93% critics 

1103
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,500
score is like, 12% or something.
But they're only three critics, 

1104
00:57:38,900 --> 00:57:42,600
I mean, see, you see the 
Difference between the anointed 

1105
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,200
review or a small number of 
people are taking into account. 

1106
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,900
What they must say, current 
social mores will they lose 

1107
00:57:48,900 --> 00:57:50,800
their job? 
So on and then the audience 

1108
00:57:50,800 --> 00:57:53,500
score were a million people. 
And I would bet this pool 

1109
00:57:53,500 --> 00:57:56,400
includes many of the same 
critics under pseudonymous 

1110
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,100
Twitter style. 
Handles is giving their actual 

1111
00:57:59,100 --> 00:58:01,300
opinion. 
So I think that when we judge 

1112
00:58:01,300 --> 00:58:06,800
ideas one, you simply ask 
pollster style questions about a

1113
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:10,300
Praxis or a process or a 
situation like marriage and see 

1114
00:58:10,300 --> 00:58:11,800
what people say. 
Two. 

1115
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,700
I think that the larger the 
group of respondents you have 

1116
00:58:14,700 --> 00:58:16,800
and the more representative it 
is the better. 

1117
00:58:17,100 --> 00:58:20,000
So this I guess is an idea that 
I share with soul and I maybe 

1118
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:21,700
even extending a little bit 
from. 

1119
00:58:21,700 --> 00:58:27,500
So knowledge, rests within the 
body of the intelligent people 

1120
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:31,300
knowledge isn't some unique 
thing that's contained within a 

1121
00:58:31,308 --> 00:58:35,900
hidden Ivory Tower Elite at all 
when you look at the group of 

1122
00:58:35,900 --> 00:58:38,800
people I mentioned basketball or
golf or The Barber Shop earlier.

1123
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,400
When you look at the group of 
grown men in the occasional, A 

1124
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:44,500
woman that would be in those 
situations and they're obviously

1125
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:47,600
female equivalence all over the 
board but I mean like a local 

1126
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,800
lawyer farmer deacon at a 
popular black church. 

1127
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,200
I mean, a school teacher, a 
coach, I mean, it's a group of 

1128
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:58,300
quite intelligent, people 
sharing positions, a couple 

1129
00:58:58,300 --> 00:59:01,600
salesman a criminal. 
I mean, it's a group of people 

1130
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,700
that are that have different 
takes on life and they're all IQ

1131
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:06,900
105 plus that have things to 
say. 

1132
00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:09,100
And there are hundreds of rooms 
like that hundreds of these 

1133
00:59:09,100 --> 00:59:12,200
local salons around the country.
And The world. 

1134
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,300
And I think that the sum total 
of intelligence in those, local 

1135
00:59:15,300 --> 00:59:19,600
salons is dramatically larger 
than the sum total of 

1136
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:23,700
intelligence within a few 
isolated forums that produce 

1137
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:25,900
media. 
For example, like there are 

1138
00:59:25,900 --> 00:59:30,300
there is more intelligence in 
the entire city of Frankfurt, is

1139
00:59:30,300 --> 00:59:33,900
Chamber of Commerce. 
Then there is in one academic 

1140
00:59:33,900 --> 00:59:36,300
department at my University and 
I'm not insulting either of 

1141
00:59:36,300 --> 00:59:38,200
those, but it just seems 
self-evident. 

1142
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:40,900
I mean, one includes the mayor, 
the chief of police on the line 

1143
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,500
but we've been trained to look 
at the second as kind of the 

1144
00:59:43,508 --> 00:59:46,300
source of real knowledge. 
And I think it's a problem. 

1145
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,000
A couple of more of my favorite 
Soul quotes. 

1146
00:59:50,000 --> 00:59:51,300
It's funny, you mentioned gay 
marriage. 

1147
00:59:51,300 --> 00:59:53,100
So I just thought I'd get this 
one. 

1148
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:56,900
This is from looking for that 
elusive escalator to success. 

1149
00:59:56,900 --> 01:00:00,300
He says the very same people who
say that government has no right

1150
01:00:00,300 --> 01:00:03,000
to interfere with sexual 
activity between consenting 

1151
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,900
adults. 
Believe that the government has 

1152
01:00:04,900 --> 01:00:07,900
every right to interfere with 
economic activity between 

1153
01:00:07,900 --> 01:00:10,900
consenting adults. 
It's just those quick one-liners

1154
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:15,500
that I love from Soul and then I
know we're running up on the 

1155
01:00:15,500 --> 01:00:16,600
clock here. 
Thank you so much. 

1156
01:00:16,700 --> 01:00:20,900
Our time. 
And then, in basic economics, he

1157
01:00:20,900 --> 01:00:25,800
says, in short people tend to do
more for their own benefit, then

1158
01:00:25,900 --> 01:00:29,100
for the benefit of others. 
However, unattractive, greed, 

1159
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:34,800
maybe it is likely to move food,
much faster, saving more lives. 

1160
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,700
So what he does here is, he 
says, this is something that 

1161
01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:41,300
applies to people, not 
businessmen, not White's, not 

1162
01:00:41,300 --> 01:00:43,800
politicians. 
So whether it's Bernie Sanders 

1163
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,400
or Jeff Bezos or your neighbor 
human beings are. 

1164
01:00:46,700 --> 01:00:49,900
Constantly looking to profit, 
even if it's psychic profit, 

1165
01:00:49,900 --> 01:00:52,700
even if there's no money 
involved, people are looking to 

1166
01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:56,100
increase the benefits and 
decrease the costs. 

1167
01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,900
So one of the primary arguments 
in favor of doing something as 

1168
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,200
well. 
This or that shouldn't be for 

1169
01:01:03,200 --> 01:01:06,000
profit, or this should be done 
by the public. 

1170
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:09,700
All you're changing are the 
incentives, it's the same race 

1171
01:01:09,700 --> 01:01:14,800
of people, whether a weather. 
Bernie Sanders has a job in the 

1172
01:01:14,800 --> 01:01:16,500
public sector or the private 
sector. 

1173
01:01:16,900 --> 01:01:21,200
Or if he's in a quote nonprofit,
in all of these situations, the 

1174
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,100
incentives change, but it's 
still human beings trying to 

1175
01:01:24,300 --> 01:01:26,000
increase the amount of profit 
they have. 

1176
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:30,200
That's why it's no surprise that
when you get someone like fauci 

1177
01:01:30,300 --> 01:01:34,400
a public servant didn't feel the
need to apologize after. 

1178
01:01:34,500 --> 01:01:38,200
He told everyone to wear masks, 
and then stopped wearing masks 

1179
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,000
when he went on 60 Minutes and 
said, masks are useless, and 

1180
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:42,900
then he came out and said, masks
should more or less be 

1181
01:01:42,900 --> 01:01:46,500
mandatory? 
So the public servant myth that 

1182
01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,900
At Soul, refutes just using 
economics. 

1183
01:01:48,900 --> 01:01:51,700
He doesn't even get political 
about it but he takes Universal 

1184
01:01:51,700 --> 01:01:54,100
truths and applies them 
consistently. 

1185
01:01:54,300 --> 01:01:57,700
So those are just so many of my 
other favorite ones when it 

1186
01:01:57,700 --> 01:02:00,100
comes to other things you've 
learned from Thomas Soul, any 

1187
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,200
final, thoughts wellö, comment 
on that. 

1188
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:07,500
At that point you made first. 
Um, yeah, I think that's a very 

1189
01:02:07,500 --> 01:02:11,500
critical point because when we 
talk about religious divine's 

1190
01:02:11,500 --> 01:02:14,000
for example and we talk about 
people like fauci. 

1191
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,100
Who's one of my least favorite 
public figures in the Modern 

1192
01:02:17,100 --> 01:02:18,900
era. 
There's there's a tendency to 

1193
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:21,900
describe these people as well, 
at least they're not greedy, at 

1194
01:02:21,900 --> 01:02:24,700
least their their self. 
They're not self-serving, at 

1195
01:02:24,700 --> 01:02:27,600
least, they care. 
And I think that's a wild 

1196
01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:29,100
misunderstanding of human 
nature. 

1197
01:02:29,300 --> 01:02:33,900
People who go into Power 
politics care, about power or 

1198
01:02:33,900 --> 01:02:36,700
about other people's money. 
They don't care about their 

1199
01:02:36,700 --> 01:02:40,600
money, but that's not more. 
Honorable, I mean fauci makes 

1200
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:42,000
five hundred thousand dollars a 
year. 

1201
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:45,700
So if OG is primarily motivated 
by a high salary taken from 

1202
01:02:45,700 --> 01:02:49,400
others, Or by the power to make 
an entire nation knuckle under 

1203
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,100
and walk around with diapers on 
their face. 

1204
01:02:51,200 --> 01:02:54,400
That doesn't necessarily make 
him a better person. 

1205
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:57,500
In fact, I'd say the reverse, 
then me being motivated by the 

1206
01:02:57,500 --> 01:03:00,200
desire to pick up a few million,
a year, in the markets that I 

1207
01:03:00,207 --> 01:03:03,500
mean that that argument is 
nonsensical the it reminds me of

1208
01:03:03,500 --> 01:03:06,600
the Brahmin kshatriya conflict 
in India was talking to a good 

1209
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:08,700
buddy of mine who's East Indian 
once. 

1210
01:03:09,100 --> 01:03:11,700
And I was looking at, like the 
hierarchy of classes and it's 

1211
01:03:11,700 --> 01:03:14,700
the, the top three are 
essentially the priests and 

1212
01:03:14,700 --> 01:03:16,500
writers the Warriors in the 
wealthy. 

1213
01:03:16,700 --> 01:03:19,200
Engines and those three have 
competed about equally and every

1214
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,700
society throughout history. 
So I said who decided to rank 

1215
01:03:21,700 --> 01:03:24,300
them 1 2 and 3. 
And he was like well the priests

1216
01:03:24,300 --> 01:03:27,400
wrote the books, so they put 
themselves first and I kind of 

1217
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,800
flipped a coin for the next one 
and it's a joke but it's pretty 

1218
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:33,300
much accurate. 
Like the people saying that 

1219
01:03:33,300 --> 01:03:36,900
public service is uniquely 
honorable are the people writing

1220
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:40,100
you know the latest edition of 
haggle man's MPA their writing 

1221
01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:43,300
the public service textbook. 
So I mean that that's a bad 

1222
01:03:43,300 --> 01:03:45,800
idea. 
I agree with soul that it's not 

1223
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,600
a Realistic idea. 
If you look at the things that 

1224
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:51,800
bureaucrats compete for. 
I mean, in Britain, it used to 

1225
01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:55,300
be a Knighthood over here. 
It's the lifelong pension. 

1226
01:03:55,500 --> 01:03:57,900
I mean, I have great respect for
our soldier but he never talked 

1227
01:03:57,900 --> 01:04:00,100
to one of the military boys. 
He's on about a year nineteen. 

1228
01:04:00,100 --> 01:04:02,500
I mean, they're they're number 
one motivator might not be 

1229
01:04:02,500 --> 01:04:04,800
defending the country. 
It might be getting that last 

1230
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:09,100
year and and then cashing out at
105 percent of what you made 

1231
01:04:09,100 --> 01:04:11,000
while on the forces and nothing 
wrong with that. 

1232
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,000
You at least did an honorable 
thing for much of your life 

1233
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,300
there. 
But there are clear motivations 

1234
01:04:16,700 --> 01:04:18,700
Whatever that pension payout 
figure would be there is I'm 

1235
01:04:18,700 --> 01:04:21,900
sure but there are clear 
motivations for why people are 

1236
01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:25,100
doing what they're doing in 
every field not just in, you 

1237
01:04:25,100 --> 01:04:28,700
know, filthy business. 
So I think that's absolutely 

1238
01:04:28,700 --> 01:04:31,100
correct. 
One of the big problems with the

1239
01:04:31,100 --> 01:04:33,400
bureaucratic NGO sector 
actually, is that there's no 

1240
01:04:33,400 --> 01:04:35,900
equivalent of profit. 
That's a sentence is actually 

1241
01:04:35,900 --> 01:04:38,600
worth repeating. 
There's no equivalent of profit.

1242
01:04:38,700 --> 01:04:42,900
So as a ruthless amoral greedy, 
businessman, it's pretty easy to

1243
01:04:42,900 --> 01:04:46,000
see how good I'm doing and 
whether people should invest 

1244
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:47,800
with me, if I go Go to that 
business or whatever. 

1245
01:04:47,800 --> 01:04:51,600
How much money did I make? 
I mean, last year, how many 

1246
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,400
books did I sell? 
If you're thinking about 

1247
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:55,400
publishing me as Harper instead 
of regnery or whatever? 

1248
01:04:55,500 --> 01:04:58,700
Whatever, that's publisher would
be there. 

1249
01:04:58,700 --> 01:05:00,400
These quantitative metrics. 
Thank you. 

1250
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:03,000
I see that book up on the screen
taboo still has still a 

1251
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:04,500
best-seller. 
I don't think we're doing, 

1252
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:06,800
pushing them out on a day-to-day
basis, that level anymore. 

1253
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:10,600
But, I mean, just those are the 
metrics. 

1254
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,200
But what is the metric for a 
charity? 

1255
01:05:13,500 --> 01:05:18,100
What is the metric for fauci? 
Is it How many people died 

1256
01:05:18,100 --> 01:05:20,700
because there's so many ways to 
dodge around that. 

1257
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:23,100
What they'll say invariably is, 
it would be even more if we had 

1258
01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:24,500
an implemented. 
My lockdown policy. 

1259
01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:26,800
So on, so agent for the 
response. 

1260
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:29,900
Yeah I'm sorry. 
It's stage for the response from

1261
01:05:29,900 --> 01:05:32,500
this new. 
Yeah great thank God. 

1262
01:05:32,500 --> 01:05:34,700
We did this or else. 
Imagine how many people would 

1263
01:05:34,700 --> 01:05:37,600
have died. 
What we saw that with the covid.

1264
01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:38,600
Catechism? 
Right? 

1265
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,600
Where like people were once we 
saw the vaccines really didn't 

1266
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:43,400
work. 
Now, I will say, they stopped 

1267
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:46,300
severe illness, they stop death.
If you're an elderly person, go 

1268
01:05:46,300 --> 01:05:48,800
get Vaccinated. 
But like didn't work in the 

1269
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:51,800
sense of stopping you from 
getting covid and getting very 

1270
01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:54,900
sick, which was the promise. 
Once we saw this, we started 

1271
01:05:54,900 --> 01:05:58,200
seeing the covid catechism where
people would come out and say, 

1272
01:05:58,200 --> 01:06:03,000
yeah, I got covid again despite 
being vaccinated, but thank God 

1273
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:07,100
for, you know, my two shots and 
then my three boosters and petzl

1274
01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:09,700
Ovid because otherwise this 
could hypothetically have been 

1275
01:06:09,700 --> 01:06:12,800
much worse and it was just pure 
Tom's Soul like the entire 

1276
01:06:12,800 --> 01:06:14,800
thing. 
Although again, you're probably 

1277
01:06:14,808 --> 01:06:16,300
healthier knew what about the 
entire thing. 

1278
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,500
Our part. 
But here's what you're saying. 

1279
01:06:18,500 --> 01:06:21,700
It would have been dramatically 
more of a disaster. 

1280
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:23,700
So, yes, that was five choose 
entire pitch. 

1281
01:06:23,700 --> 01:06:26,600
That's what Burke's said in 
every one of these cases, the 

1282
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,100
reality though is that there's 
no way to know whether that's 

1283
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,400
true or not. 
So it's in fact, very hard to 

1284
01:06:31,408 --> 01:06:34,400
hold bureaucrats to any 
reasonable standard. 

1285
01:06:34,500 --> 01:06:37,900
So I in fact rank the bureaucrat
as one of the lowest forms of 

1286
01:06:37,900 --> 01:06:41,500
Power Player life. 
The motivation isn't their own 

1287
01:06:41,500 --> 01:06:44,800
honest money, it's either taking
your money or having power over 

1288
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:47,100
you and there's no real way. 
Way to hold them accountable. 

1289
01:06:47,107 --> 01:06:50,700
And that's, that's something 
that we need to work on. 

1290
01:06:50,700 --> 01:06:52,200
Even in Academia. 
We can be held accountable. 

1291
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:54,400
What's your number of 
Publications people? 

1292
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:57,600
In that General free-flowing, 
bureaucratic space. 

1293
01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,800
It's almost impossible. 
And that that really is an issue

1294
01:07:00,800 --> 01:07:03,800
for society. 
I think that the growth of mass 

1295
01:07:03,800 --> 01:07:06,000
bureaucracy actually is a major 
problem. 

1296
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:08,200
It's one of the major 
characteristics of Empires on 

1297
01:07:08,200 --> 01:07:10,600
decline. 
If you look at, for example, 

1298
01:07:10,600 --> 01:07:14,700
education or medicine over the 
past 50 years, one of the things

1299
01:07:14,700 --> 01:07:17,900
that's almost lost The whole 
debate about why does this shit 

1300
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:21,200
cost so much? 
You know, is it corporate greed?

1301
01:07:21,300 --> 01:07:24,100
You know, is it failure of the 
clientele, the really demand a 

1302
01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:26,700
product or to seek out 
Alternatives? 

1303
01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:29,000
You know, one of the things 
that's lost in this whole 

1304
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,600
conversation is just that the 
support staff. 

1305
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:35,000
In those areas has grown 
something crazy, like, 5,000 

1306
01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,700
percent. 
So in the schools, we've seen 

1307
01:07:36,700 --> 01:07:40,100
like a 6% increase in student 
numbers, 12 percent increase in 

1308
01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:44,100
teachers and multiple hundred 
percent increase in bureaucrats,

1309
01:07:44,100 --> 01:07:47,300
overseeing Greek, life, and 
admissions, Mental health. 

1310
01:07:47,300 --> 01:07:51,700
So on down the line. 
So that is it's hard to track 

1311
01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:53,700
and I don't see much purpose to 
it that turned into kind of a 

1312
01:07:53,707 --> 01:07:56,500
sideline rent but it's an issue.
Yeah. 

1313
01:07:56,500 --> 01:08:00,400
And one more thing on the black 
rednecks and white liberals 

1314
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:04,500
because I see this as such good 
news, but of course when you 

1315
01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:07,600
give people good news, it takes 
away a large amount of meaning 

1316
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:10,600
that that they have. 
So it's not that. 

1317
01:08:10,700 --> 01:08:14,100
Well blacks are inferior or 
blacks just need to sit around 

1318
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:16,399
and wait for whites to stop 
being so racist. 

1319
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:18,700
Or else you guys got nowhere to 
go? 

1320
01:08:19,200 --> 01:08:21,500
It seems like if I had to 
summarize. 

1321
01:08:21,700 --> 01:08:26,100
They had originally embraced 
sort of the capital theory of 

1322
01:08:26,200 --> 01:08:29,899
build your skills and make 
exchanges, and now much like the

1323
01:08:29,899 --> 01:08:32,899
Japanese did in America and had 
higher incomes. 

1324
01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:35,700
And now, it seems much more of 
the political Theory. 

1325
01:08:35,899 --> 01:08:38,899
We have to get involved in 
politics and increase wealth 

1326
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:41,700
redistribution. 
It went from wealth creation to 

1327
01:08:41,700 --> 01:08:44,399
wealth redistribution. 
It was like, originally, the 

1328
01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:47,100
mindset was Booker, T. 
Washington. 

1329
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:50,899
And now it's like Marc Lamont 
Hill, just a total Hustler who I

1330
01:08:50,907 --> 01:08:53,800
can't stand. 
It seems like this was the big 

1331
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:57,700
shift starting, I think sold the
year he pinpoints in dismantling

1332
01:08:57,700 --> 01:09:00,200
America. 
I think it's 1968 where they 

1333
01:09:00,200 --> 01:09:05,100
focused instead from increasing 
their skills and and capital 

1334
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:06,899
investment, same with whites, I 
guess. 

1335
01:09:07,500 --> 01:09:10,399
And now they focus on much more 
about what we got to get someone

1336
01:09:10,399 --> 01:09:13,700
elected. 
So you can sort of develop this 

1337
01:09:13,700 --> 01:09:16,399
anointed class is that accurate 
and is there anything? 

1338
01:09:16,899 --> 01:09:20,700
Else we could learn from Souls 
of culturalism contributions. 

1339
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:23,100
Yeah. 
I mean, I think it's quite 

1340
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:24,700
accurate. 
One of the things that's kind of

1341
01:09:24,700 --> 01:09:27,700
weird is that culturalism 
doesn't really have a home right

1342
01:09:27,700 --> 01:09:29,600
now. 
I'm hoping to bring it back 

1343
01:09:29,600 --> 01:09:33,100
supported by Bob, Woodson, Glenn
Lowry and a lot of other 

1344
01:09:33,100 --> 01:09:35,300
powerful people in the black and
fat better East Asian 

1345
01:09:35,300 --> 01:09:37,800
communities. 
But I mean, Amy Chua. 

1346
01:09:37,800 --> 01:09:40,100
I mean, a lot of people have 
made these points Roland fryer, 

1347
01:09:40,399 --> 01:09:43,800
but culturalism began. 
I think in the modern sense as a

1348
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:46,399
response to the sophisticated 
hereditary. 

1349
01:09:46,500 --> 01:09:49,899
Arianism of people like Arthur 
Jensen in the late 1950s and 

1350
01:09:49,899 --> 01:09:51,700
60s. 
You started to see a lot of what

1351
01:09:51,700 --> 01:09:54,700
had previously been almost, you 
know, black guy and Republican 

1352
01:09:54,700 --> 01:09:57,500
yelling at each other in the 
social science journals, getting

1353
01:09:57,500 --> 01:09:59,800
formalized into coherent 
theories. 

1354
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:04,700
So Arthur Jensen, studied young 
children in poor areas, where 

1355
01:10:04,700 --> 01:10:06,500
different groups were 
represented around the country 

1356
01:10:06,500 --> 01:10:09,900
and came to the conclusion. 
Which no one really disputes 

1357
01:10:09,900 --> 01:10:13,200
that there are differences in 
tested IQ between members of 

1358
01:10:13,200 --> 01:10:15,600
different groups. 
At the time I think blacks were 

1359
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,900
very well about a The eight many
white groups were well under 100

1360
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:20,400
as well. 
That's that's the white Norm. 

1361
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,300
So the idea became there might 
be genetic barriers here that 

1362
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:26,800
are going to prevent these kids 
from accomplishing certain 

1363
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:32,000
things and soul and others 
started pointing out that that 

1364
01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:36,400
doesn't seem likely to be true 
by the time Seoul reached his 

1365
01:10:36,400 --> 01:10:38,600
Peak when he was doing most of 
his writing, the black IQ had 

1366
01:10:38,600 --> 01:10:42,400
risen to about 85 86, which is 
what a Charles Murray admitted 

1367
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,000
it was in the bell curve. 
I will tell you right now, it's 

1368
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:48,300
91 or 92. 
To there's considerable fluidity

1369
01:10:48,300 --> 01:10:51,700
with IQ and a complex way that 
no one really understands. 

1370
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:54,100
But if you look at Marie's 
latest book while facing 

1371
01:10:54,100 --> 01:10:57,100
reality, he just notes in 
passing without really saying 

1372
01:10:57,100 --> 01:11:02,100
much about this, that his black 
IQ estimate is 91 his Hispanics.

1373
01:11:02,100 --> 01:11:06,400
IQ estimate has gotten up to 93.
So these minority IQs of 70, I 

1374
01:11:06,407 --> 01:11:09,300
mean, her something in the 
distant past but Seoul said, 

1375
01:11:09,300 --> 01:11:11,400
well, I don't think that's true.
I mean, we're seeing these jumps

1376
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:15,100
from the 78 to 92 and there's 
obvious whether or not there's a

1377
01:11:15,500 --> 01:11:18,400
three-point Gap. 
Let's even say imats five-point 

1378
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:20,300
Gap in the end with everything 
adjusted for. 

1379
01:11:20,300 --> 01:11:22,800
There's clearly a massive role 
for culture here. 

1380
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:25,400
So let's look at what's needed 
and he starts talking about some

1381
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:28,200
of the things we still talk 
about today, Father present, in 

1382
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,900
Black communities and the era of
the welfare state, we need to be

1383
01:11:30,900 --> 01:11:34,800
utterly honest about that number
of books in the home. 

1384
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:37,500
We find that black parents for 
whatever reason don't read to 

1385
01:11:37,500 --> 01:11:39,100
their kids. 
In the same way that white 

1386
01:11:39,100 --> 01:11:41,500
parents do. 
The one exception is southern 

1387
01:11:41,500 --> 01:11:44,600
white Appalachian parents who 
test identically two black 

1388
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:49,700
parents average IQ for whites 
and West Virginia. 92.5 so books

1389
01:11:49,700 --> 01:11:52,700
in the home, dad, what grades do
your parents, demand? 

1390
01:11:52,700 --> 01:11:55,400
Even, barely literate. 
Asian families to mayonnaise in 

1391
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,300
school. 
That's one of the most 

1392
01:11:57,300 --> 01:11:59,100
fascinating things I've stumbled
across. 

1393
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:00,700
What's the number of hours of 
Television. 

1394
01:12:00,700 --> 01:12:02,700
You watch in a day, how much do 
you study every day? 

1395
01:12:03,000 --> 01:12:05,300
So, so pointed out. 
Like look, there's no genetic 

1396
01:12:05,300 --> 01:12:11,300
way that an IQ is going to jump 
from 80 to 93 in 15 years and 

1397
01:12:11,300 --> 01:12:15,500
there's not so we need to look 
at what's happening. 

1398
01:12:15,500 --> 01:12:17,900
What's predicting this And so 
that's where the cultural is 

1399
01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:20,100
model comes from. 
That's been advocated for by 

1400
01:12:20,100 --> 01:12:23,800
Walter Williams, John McWhorter,
Glenn loury. 

1401
01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:26,300
I mean, dozens of just 
heavyweights in the game, 

1402
01:12:27,100 --> 01:12:31,900
Dickens and Flynn Nisbet over on
the hard psychometric said, the 

1403
01:12:31,900 --> 01:12:35,500
problem is that right now, the 
political left is moved a long 

1404
01:12:35,500 --> 01:12:39,100
way away from John McWhorter. 
And Dickens and Flynn, who would

1405
01:12:39,100 --> 01:12:42,200
be considered Heretics today. 
So culturalism doesn't really 

1406
01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,200
have a natural home. 
I mean now it's kind of on the 

1407
01:12:44,208 --> 01:12:46,300
center, right? 
I'd say most American Enterprise

1408
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:49,500
Ketut guys, are culturalist 
Murray himself, maybe when he's 

1409
01:12:49,500 --> 01:12:51,600
never, really said whether he's 
a culture hereditary? 

1410
01:12:51,900 --> 01:12:55,300
But, and although I have my 
suspicions, I guess I like the 

1411
01:12:55,300 --> 01:13:00,800
guy. 
But I mean, this is problematic 

1412
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,900
to. 
Oh yeah, the reason for this is 

1413
01:13:02,900 --> 01:13:06,800
that the modern left is at least
pretending to believe that 

1414
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:08,900
things like IQ and race don't 
exist at all. 

1415
01:13:09,700 --> 01:13:14,400
So I mean, when you say my race 
needs to engage in X tactics to 

1416
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:18,000
improve IQ. 
It'll hereditary would say, 

1417
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:19,300
well, that sounds like the old 
debate. 

1418
01:13:19,300 --> 01:13:20,800
Yeah, try it out. 
Let's compete with each other in

1419
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,200
the papers. 
But I'll leftist today would 

1420
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:26,400
say, well, no, your race doesn't
exist and IQs not real. 

1421
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,800
So you're kind of seeing an odd 
reluctance to listen to what was

1422
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,400
traditionally the most 
influential of these paradigms. 

1423
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:35,400
It's kind of funny, but I guess 
there's nothing to do. 

1424
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:38,500
But just keep saying obvious 
fact, that means at a level, 

1425
01:13:38,500 --> 01:13:41,800
this is Galileo, shit, like it 
still moves, like if you study 

1426
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,200
for tests, you'll do better on 
them. 

1427
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,700
I mean, it's one of the most 
Located conclusions in the 

1428
01:13:47,700 --> 01:13:51,200
social sciences and you can't 
make it go away by not 

1429
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:53,500
replicating. 
It this happens all the time by 

1430
01:13:53,500 --> 01:13:56,800
the way. 
Um I mean like people ask me 

1431
01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:59,800
like I mentioned talking to G or
keto or intelligent men and one 

1432
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:01,800
of the things they would say as 
well other than you and fryer 

1433
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:03,900
why are there no scientific 
papers that say this? 

1434
01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,700
And the answer is because there 
are very few scientists that are

1435
01:14:06,700 --> 01:14:08,600
on the center, right? 
And they're going to study this 

1436
01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:11,600
like it's you trying to get 
fired, you know? 

1437
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,300
I mean so it's just if you take 
a paper, I read a paper recently

1438
01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:20,100
that looks At whether there's a 
connection between police stops 

1439
01:14:20,100 --> 01:14:24,100
and miscarriages. 
So like this paper looks at they

1440
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:28,100
find that in neighborhoods with 
high police activity, there are 

1441
01:14:28,100 --> 01:14:30,800
higher rates of miscarriage for 
black women. 

1442
01:14:32,700 --> 01:14:34,600
There are there are three major 
problems with this. 

1443
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:36,000
I'll ask can you guess what they
are? 

1444
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:41,700
So I'm trying to think of going 
back to my Roland fryer here. 

1445
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:48,100
So as far as what would cause 
more police means that there are

1446
01:14:48,100 --> 01:14:53,200
more conflicts settled. 
Violently more violence is leads

1447
01:14:53,200 --> 01:14:56,300
to an increase in anxiety. 
There four miscarriages are more

1448
01:14:56,300 --> 01:15:01,100
likely to occur s OK like random
intelligent guy from a different

1449
01:15:01,100 --> 01:15:04,100
scientific field figured out the
yeah okay it took 10 seconds go 

1450
01:15:04,100 --> 01:15:10,600
on there's more second one would
be Police feel like they'll have

1451
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:14,800
more leeway. 
If someone cannot pay a lot of 

1452
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:19,500
money for a lawyer and take them
to court, which takes the police

1453
01:15:19,700 --> 01:15:22,700
men away from his job for a day 
therefore is more likely to 

1454
01:15:22,700 --> 01:15:26,100
patrol lower-income 
neighborhoods because there'll 

1455
01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:30,200
be less resistance and 
lower-income, people are less 

1456
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:33,000
likely to have nutritious Foods,
what's makes them less healthy, 

1457
01:15:33,100 --> 01:15:35,000
which increases the likelihood 
of miscarriage? 

1458
01:15:36,300 --> 01:15:38,900
And then yes good okay. 
Yeah I mean so that that took 

1459
01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:40,800
that took a minute. 
Well done sir. 

1460
01:15:41,100 --> 01:15:43,100
No I mean that's that's 
essentially correct. 

1461
01:15:43,100 --> 01:15:45,400
Yeah I mean and you it's good 
that you did get the one that 

1462
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:48,700
involves potential police abuse.
Like I mean I could see some bad

1463
01:15:48,700 --> 01:15:51,000
cop saying, who are these 
bitches going to tell after you 

1464
01:15:51,008 --> 01:15:53,800
know, a rough arrest but 
realistically, yeah, the two 

1465
01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:55,400
things that they didn't adjust 
for. 

1466
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,300
Our the fact that people in 
violence slum areas are 

1467
01:15:58,300 --> 01:16:01,700
different behaviorally from 
people and upper middle class 

1468
01:16:01,700 --> 01:16:04,300
suburbs. 
So to see how much of a role 

1469
01:16:04,300 --> 01:16:07,800
stress over all played. 
You'd have to adjust for diet, 

1470
01:16:07,900 --> 01:16:12,400
exercise sexual activity, drugs 
and alcohol obesity, all that 

1471
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:13,900
stuff. 
They don't adjust for any of it.

1472
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:18,800
And you'd also have to look at 
the source of the stress, which 

1473
01:16:18,800 --> 01:16:20,700
would be a secondary question. 
Like, do you attribute this 

1474
01:16:20,700 --> 01:16:24,200
primarily to policing to Crime 
to domestic violence? 

1475
01:16:24,500 --> 01:16:26,700
What you'd probably find is that
the police are in the 

1476
01:16:26,700 --> 01:16:29,500
neighborhood in response to very
high levels of crime and 

1477
01:16:29,500 --> 01:16:32,000
domestic violence in the 
neighborhood, right? 

1478
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,100
So the police themselves would 
be like the 8th or 9th highest 

1479
01:16:35,100 --> 01:16:37,100
cause of crime there. 
Or it causes stress there. 

1480
01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:41,300
So, yeah, I mean, a lot of this 
stuff is of this kind where 

1481
01:16:41,300 --> 01:16:44,500
people very definitely have a 
goal that they want to prove and

1482
01:16:44,500 --> 01:16:46,700
it's and it's not even fraud 
academically. 

1483
01:16:46,700 --> 01:16:49,000
Like these people did prove 
there's a connection between 

1484
01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:51,900
living in a high crime, 
neighborhood and miscarriages, 

1485
01:16:51,900 --> 01:16:54,800
it's good paper. 
The problem is that the police 

1486
01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,500
element the racism element is 
totally disproven unless you 

1487
01:16:58,500 --> 01:17:01,600
first adjust for diet and 
exercise and sexuality and 

1488
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,600
obesity and crime and all these 
other things that they didn't or

1489
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,600
that they couldn't. 
And that's Then you see more and

1490
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,400
more and more again and that's 
why I think you know, the basic 

1491
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,900
advice from the OG about how to 
skeptically approach. 

1492
01:17:13,900 --> 01:17:17,800
This stuff is more useful than 
it's ever been exactly and soul 

1493
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:22,200
gives the great example he goes,
we could look statistically it 

1494
01:17:22,200 --> 01:17:25,600
turns out ref blacks were only 
13 percent of the American 

1495
01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:30,900
population, yet they get called 
for fouls in the NBA about 80 90

1496
01:17:30,900 --> 01:17:33,900
percent of the time, this has to
be the result of racism. 

1497
01:17:33,900 --> 01:17:36,500
Look at the inequality. 
Well, there's a An important 

1498
01:17:36,500 --> 01:17:38,700
step you missed, Which 
percentage of people are 

1499
01:17:38,700 --> 01:17:40,300
actually involved in this 
activity. 

1500
01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:43,500
Before, discussing what happens 
in the activity are saying men 

1501
01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:48,800
are 50% of the population, yet, 
95% of those who are on death 

1502
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,600
row, or in prison. 
Therefore, we have a big sexism 

1503
01:17:51,600 --> 01:17:55,200
against men problem. 
Well, you forgot to adjust for 

1504
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:56,700
who's actually committing the 
crime. 

1505
01:17:56,900 --> 01:17:59,300
So, so many good things that 
could decrease. 

1506
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,500
The amount of cultural tension. 
I want to give you the final 

1507
01:18:02,500 --> 01:18:05,600
word but I just have to say my 
other favorite Soul. 

1508
01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:07,900
Quote. 
He says, the reason so many 

1509
01:18:07,900 --> 01:18:10,900
people misunderstand, so many 
issues is not that these issues 

1510
01:18:10,900 --> 01:18:14,300
are so complex, but that people 
do not want a factual or 

1511
01:18:14,300 --> 01:18:17,400
analytical explanation that 
leaves them emotionally 

1512
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:21,900
unsatisfied, they want villains 
to hate and heroes to cheer and 

1513
01:18:22,200 --> 01:18:26,300
they don't want explanations. 
That don't give them that. 

1514
01:18:28,200 --> 01:18:30,700
That is it that actually may be 
my last word. 

1515
01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:34,100
I think that's a great summary 
of souls work. 

1516
01:18:34,900 --> 01:18:39,900
People don't want an emotionally
unsatisfying factual explanation

1517
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:44,800
that that sums up pretty much 
what the ogs been talking about 

1518
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:49,100
for 50 years. 
And I think that's very correct.

1519
01:18:49,100 --> 01:18:51,400
I mean, so again, when people 
point to things like that 

1520
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:55,500
policing and miscarriages paper 
and saying and say Why are you 

1521
01:18:55,500 --> 01:18:58,800
just denying that all? 
This sociology has found 

1522
01:18:58,800 --> 01:19:01,400
something. 
I don't deny that, I think it's 

1523
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:06,000
found the best thing that you 
could find if you're unwilling 

1524
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:11,000
to test out any hereditary in' 
or culturalist, or anything else

1525
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,600
explanation because those are 
evil evil evil and they have 

1526
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:17,300
cooties. 
But to actually find truth 

1527
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:20,300
you've got to look at the evil 
evil evil and it has cooties 

1528
01:19:20,300 --> 01:19:24,600
stuff to it's obvious to most 
smart people that for example, 

1529
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:28,000
Ibrahim candy is just wrong that
stuff with no hate for the 

1530
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:32,600
mankind of sounds dumb so you 
can either play along and act 

1531
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,500
like you believe this and fall 
behind the Chinese or you can 

1532
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,900
follow some of the basic 
techniques that Tom salt 

1533
01:19:37,900 --> 01:19:40,300
suggested 40 years ago and maybe
find the truth. 

1534
01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:43,500
And I think that's the last line
for me, go go forth and do good,

1535
01:19:43,500 --> 01:19:47,800
maybe find the truth. 
The books are hate crime hoax 

1536
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:51,300
and taboo. 10 facts, you can't 
talk about by dr. 

1537
01:19:51,400 --> 01:19:54,300
Wilfred Reilly of Kentucky, 
State University. 

1538
01:19:54,700 --> 01:19:56,900
Links will be in the description
below, dr. 

1539
01:19:56,900 --> 01:19:58,400
Riley, thank you so much for 
your time. 

1540
01:19:58,700 --> 01:20:00,000
Well, thank you for having me 
on.