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OK, so let's start this 
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It's going to be on the idea of 
freedom. 

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And the idea of freedom is a 
very important one on the 

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Buddhist path. 
Yeah, it's the kind of thing 

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that kind of goes throughout the
suit as you hear about freedom 

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from the very beginning all the 
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And you have important words in 
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freedom is vimutti. 
Vimutti means like liberation of

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freedom. 
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you find in the suit is the idea
of Cheeto vimutti, which is like

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the liberation of freedom of the
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Yes. 
So the idea that the mind gets 

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liberated from something. 
Yeah, it's a very enticing and 

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beautiful concept in The 
Suitors. 

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But beyond the idea of Cheeto 
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you also have the idea of Pandya
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Pandya in The Suitors is the 
idea of wisdom. 

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That is the liberation by 
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liberation by wisdom, very 
beautiful ideas on the Buddhist 

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path. 
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are aiming for in Buddhism. 
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beginning and it kind of 
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the way to the end of this 
training that we're trying to 

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undertake here. 
But of course, the idea of 

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liberation also has a lot of 
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Yeah. 
If you are lip free in in 

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ordinary society, it means that 
you are not in jail. 

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bad thing, except if you're a 
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Adam Bram says being in jail is 
a good thing. 

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Yeah, you know, because you get 
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In jail, you just hang out in 
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You don't do anything here. 
Adam Bram says he would prefer 

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solitary confinement in jail. 
That would be the ideal place 

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for the Buddhist. 
It's kind of weird, isn't it, 

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how you. 
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to be there or not, whether 
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prison for you. 
So prison is like, bad. 

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Why is it bad? 
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want. 
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the way you want to express 
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You are limited. 
You are hind in the world is no 

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longer your oyster. 
You can't do what you want in 

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the world anymore. 
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So imprisonment, the opposite of
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from a ordinary social point of 
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But of course, from a Buddhist 
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is not the prison of steel bars 
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locks and prison wardens or 
whatever it is. 

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That is not the real prisoner. 
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the real prison is a prison of 
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It's the prison that almost 
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You know, you get born into this
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straight away, and then that 
prison remains with you for your

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entire life unless you do 
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release yourself from that 
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prisoner. 
That is the real problem. 

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The way we limit ourselves, the 
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wrong place, the ways where I 
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reality, the way we kind of 
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what we really want to do is to 
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That is the problem there. 
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bit, I was recently in the 
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I was travelling across the US 
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all the way over to New York and
Boston and stopping in a few 

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places in between. 
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travelling as a monastic is that
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I mean, obviously the main 
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teach Duma wherever you go in 
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And, you know, people always get
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you back again. 
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you travel. 
You always have to go back again

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afterwards. 
That's why you never see us here

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in in Australia because there's 
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But so that's one of the, of 
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for travelling. 
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But one of the great reasons for
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new impulses as a monastic. 
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same, but every society has its 
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the dumb or ask questions that 
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you go in the world there. 
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place, and this was my first 
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kind of get asked slightly 
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the nature of that particular 
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So when I was in Minnesota, 
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freezing cold. 
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over there -26° when I was there
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Has anyone ever here been to 
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No, OK, you, well, you, I 
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was there and it was, you know, 
it's kind of cool because I have

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a Norwegian background in 
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the US. 
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thought it was really cool. 
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coming to Minnesota. 
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talk that they asked me to give 
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constitutional freedoms versus 
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that before because of course, 
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of constitutional freedoms are 
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One of the things they proud 
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the American Constitution, which
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basic ideas for the American 
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that society. 
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about, well, what about this 
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versus the Buddhist way of 
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gives a different angle on 
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And of course, one of the 
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American Constitution, in the 
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Constitution, it starts off by 
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pursuit of happiness. 
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You know, remember that this 
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famous lines from the American 
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Liberty and the pursuit of 
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grew up in England, back in I 
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the 1980s or whatever it was, 
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commercial on TV that was kind 
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jeans. 
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was Wrangler jeans. 
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And that is kind of a, it's a 
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Life, liberty and the pursuit of

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happiness, it kind of makes good
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We can see why that is a 
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Life sounds good. 

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We don't want to kind of people 

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to kill us. 
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And then you have liberty. 
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Liberty is nice, especially if 
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But anyway, this kind of general
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And then the pursuit of 
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But when you think about it, 
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pursuit of happiness, this was 
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go travel around, you have to 
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So it's kind of making fun of 
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the Americans. 
It's always kind of you have to 

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have a bit of fun and games with
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So I said there was a problem 
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Yeah, it sounds really nice. 
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There's a foundation fundamental
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Constitution. 
You got to change it. 

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Yeah, it doesn't work, This 
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That was kind of my point. 
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Constitution is that to be able 
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need to be able to pursue 
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You have to know where to find 
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You have to know the meaning of 
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You have to understand what it 
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If you don't know where to find 
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pursue it? 
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Buddhism can help you with that.
So we'll give you a few 

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paragraphs, Buddhist paragraphs,
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American constitution, and then 
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over here. 
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I'm not sure if they were all 
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laughed at it because they 
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That would be really nice, 
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Sometimes we need to combine 
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sentiments with a few spiritual 
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And when we combine them in that
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start to become really 
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Because of course, the reality 
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into the world and they start to
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The liberty is there, yet that 
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it. 
The reality is they tend to look

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in the wrong place. 
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idea of the pursuit of happiness
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the country that you were in. 
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country, maybe you're not happy 
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ordinary happinesses of the 
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Yeah, that is actually what you 
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profound. 
It doesn't get you very far. 

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And that's kind of the end of 
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exciting. 
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liberty in the world or the idea
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So to really have freedom, you 
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to use freedom, we have to have 
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underlying idea. 
So what happened is, is what 

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actually the pursuit of these 
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And if we get it all wrong, then
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Now, one of the aspects also of 
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idea you have the freedom of 
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assembly, the freedom of the 
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things. 
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Yeah. 
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the Americans will pride 
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this kind of liberties and 
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fundamental things. 
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of that. 
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These are good things. 
These are things that keep our 

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society in change. 
To keep a balance in society 

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doesn't allow people to get too 
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dangerous thing. 
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So there are good things, yeah. 
But the problem, one of the 

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interesting things, of course, 
that once you start to look a 

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little bit at the Buddhist 
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that many of these fundamental 
rights that people had today, 

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one of the rights also as active
freedom of religion, many of 

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these things existed already 2 
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Yeah, we pride, pride ourselves 
on these ideas that that kind of

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our society is very advanced and
very, you know, evolved from the

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kind of early days. 
But very often you've had these 

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ideas and not really ideas that 
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These are perennial ideas, ideas
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always been there in society 
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And I'm sure if you would be 
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deep past, almost regardless of 
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if you went into your past lives
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will see the same ideas 
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again. 
And there's nothing really all 

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that unique about the society we
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And when you even, all you have 
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society and you start to look at
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democracy, You find a very high 
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Yeah, it's kind of amazing when 
you start reading the suitors, 

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you start to see the suitors of 
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You start to see all the debates
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all the kind of crazy religious 
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It makes our days insane by 
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they had in those days. 
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some religious scallywags out 
there today. 

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of the Buddha. 
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hanging around saying all kind 
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well here. 
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of rainbow of religions. 
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All of them kind of arguing with
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other. 
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beautiful things about the 
Indian culture here. 

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I don't know if you've been to 
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fascinating. 
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You have kind of a love hate 
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It's a very fascinating society 
because of its religious nature.

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Yeah. 
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So many religious people. 
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when you go to India, it is 
almost as if you're stepping 

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back into history here, seeing 
some of those beautiful ancient 

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sites where the Buddha was, 
where the great Arahans was, 

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where the Bikanese Arahans of 
the old days were here. 

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And you go back to those places 

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and you actually know it is the 
place because it looks exactly 

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the same way as it was described
in the suitors. 

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Some of the details are exactly 
the same. 

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Yeah. 
It's a remarkable thing. 

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Yeah. 
And you go there and you feel 

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the sense of weird sense of 
belonging when you go there. 

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That's what I feel there. 
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at my life now and I look at 
kind of the web, what the things

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I enjoy and the things I do in 
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an Indian in a past life. 
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India that I kind of just adore.
I think it's a so many things I 

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hate about India as well. 
Don't say that, but that's 

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actually true. 
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India here, which are really 
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extraordinary, especially if you
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And it would be surprising if 
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Indian in the past life. 
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India is a place where lots of 
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India is a place where the 
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for 1 1/2 thousand years. 
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we were part of that culture 
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So. 
But India is fascinating and it 

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shows you when you look 
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worked already 2 1/2 thousand 
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that our society today is not 
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that unique. 
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now of liberty and freedom in 
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existed for a very, very long 
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But coming back to the idea of 
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start with a simple idea of 
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Now I'm going to have a look at 
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Buddhism presents the ideas of 
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our world there many people 
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are hindrances to freedom. 
The hammers in that put 

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boundaries on what we can do and
we cannot really enjoy ourselves

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in the world to the full 
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Why? 
Because morality sets limits on 

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us. 
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And for that reason, you will 
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societies in the world and many 
kind of maybe not societies, but

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and groups of individuals who 
decide to live amoral lives, not

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really taking morality into 
account, not making an important

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part of their life. 
But why? 

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Because they see it as a 
hindrance to expression here. 

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But that is a misunderstanding 
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Morality here, morality, if you 
live it in the right way, is 

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actually an expansion of your 
freedom, an expansion of your 

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sense of liberty within her. 
Yeah. 

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And this is such an important 
thing to understand because when

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you live a moral life, something
very powerful happens inside of 

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you. 
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You start to feel a sense of 
self respect because you're 

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treating other people well. 
You start to feel good about 

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yourself because you know that 
you're living a good life, 

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especially when you really try 
to perfect that virtue and 

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morality. 
You feel a sense of self value, 

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a self esteem. 
You don't have any remorse or 

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regrets about the past. 
You don't have the darkness of 

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the mind or the sloth of the 
mind because you've done bad 

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things before or you've done 
maybe a few bad things, but 

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generally speaking, you live a 
good life. 

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And that liberty that comes in 
the mind, that is a function of 

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that, that is far more important
than the kind of liberty that 

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you get outside. 
It's the mental liberty that 

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really matters in the world, not
the external liberty of enjoying

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the senses or enjoying power or 
enjoying these kind of things. 

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And I really recommend you to 
notice that because that is such

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a beautiful freedom of the mind.
Not having the remorse, not 

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having the negativity speaking 
to you all the time and making 

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your life difficult. 
And many people who complain 

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about lack of self worth or self
value in this world, well, if 

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you would really want to, to 
emphasize or to increase your 

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sense of self worth, this is one
of the most important places 

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where you actually create that 
self worth for yourself. 

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You really start to feel good 
about yourself. 

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You don't care so much about 
what other people think about 

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you. 
This is like a disease in our 

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world, always caring about what 
other people think. 

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Who cares what other people 
think, right? 

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What do they know anyway? 
It's weird how often we kind of 

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we buy into praise. 
We buy into the praise of people

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who haven't got a clue about 
what is praiseworthy here. 

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Why do we care about other 
people's praise? 

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If the Buddha praises you, OK, 
then you have good reason to 

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care about it. 
But otherwise, forget about 

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other people's praise. 
Feel good in your heart because 

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you know for yourself that you 
are a good person. 

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That is the first liberty of 
morality here. 

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And there is a nice story that 
goes with this. 

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I don't know if you have heard 
that story. 

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Ajam Brahm sometimes tells it. 
Actually there's an Ajam Brahm 

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story. 
I only retell Ajam Brahm story. 

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That's kind of my, that's how I 
get by. 

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And I give this down my talks. 
I just think what will Ajam 

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Brahm say? 
OK, he will tell this story. 

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OK, I'm going to tell that 
story. 

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And this is a story of from 
Thailand, from Ajam Brahm's 

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early days in Thailand here. 
And it's a story of two very 

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senior Thai monks. 
And they were invited to a 

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dhana. 
Dhana is like a meal offering at

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someone's house usually. 
So they were invited to this 

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dhana and they went there. 
And this was a very wealthy 

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people living in this house. 
This is now a long time ago. 

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Yeah. 
This was probably in Bangkok 

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back in the 1970s or 80s or 
something like that. 

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I can't, not sure exactly when 
it was. 

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So they get to this house, they 
sit down and they get, you know,

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treated. 
They get a kind of have a nice 

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meal or whatever. 
And after the meal they start to

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talk to each other. 
And as they talk, there is a 

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large aquarium. 
Yeah, fish tank in that house. 

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And so one of the monks says to 
the other one, it's terrible 

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they're keeping all this fish 
imprisoned in a fish tank. 

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Yeah, just for their own 
enjoyment, so they can kind of 

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enjoy the fish swimming around. 
It's just entertainment, 

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Entertainment for them while 
torturing the fish in the 

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process. 
How can they do that? 

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This is bad morality. 
Yeah. 

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They're doing immoral stuff by 
torturing these fish in the 

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house. 
They should be free to swim in 

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the rivers, to enjoy themselves 
and do whatever they want in the

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world. 
And then the other monk, he 

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says, but wait a minute. 
Yeah, he says, wait a minute. 

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Because actually, when you look 
at those fish in the fish tank 

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right here, they have many, many
advantages over the fish in the 

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rivers. 
First of all, there are no 

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predators, right? 
The fish in the river always 

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have to look over their 
shoulder. 

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Do they actually not sure fish 
have shoulders. 

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But anyway, you they had to kind
of look behind them, right? 

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Because a bit kind of scary, the
fishy shoulder that they always 

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had to be frightened, right, 
Because there's always kind of 

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larger predators around there or
the water in the river is never 

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really controlled. 
In part of the year it is too 

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hot. 
Part of the year it is too cold.

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Yeah. 
Always problematic with the 

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change in temperature in the 
water. 

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Sometimes there is food in the 
river, sometimes there is no 

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food in that river. 
Sometimes the river dries out. 

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There's only little puddles 
left. 

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Yeah, and maybe they die in that
little puddle. 

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But these fish in the fish tank,
Yeah, They always have the right

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temperature of the water, 
controlled by the owner to be 

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perfect for that fish. 
Always give them nice and 

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nutritious food. 
Yes, they kind of. 

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Sometimes they become a little 
bit too fat, maybe, But 

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otherwise they are healthy and 
nice right there. 

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There's no predators in that 
tank. 

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If they get sick, they call them
the fish doctor. 

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I'm sure there must be fish 
doctors out there. 

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There's doctors of all kinds. 
I'm sure there's fish doctors as

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well. 
They call in the fish doctor to 

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look after them. 
Yeah. 

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So they have this kind of 
perfect set up. 

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So who is worse off? 
Is it the ones who are limited a

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little bit by the fish tank four
sides? 

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Are they worse off because they 
have all these other things? 

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Or is it those who are free to 
do whatever they want, but 

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actually they have all these 
problems because of that? 

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And then the other monkey kind 
of agreed. 

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Yeah, you have a point. 
Yeah, actually, maybe the fish 

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in the fish tank are better off.
And in the same way we are 

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better off by walling in, 
putting limits on our desires, 

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limits on our angry limits on 
our stupidity and delusion, 

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right. 
Putting some limits because we 

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are deluded. 
We don't really understand the 

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world properly here, and we put 
limits on that. 

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Then we experience a freedom 
that is far more valuable than 

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the freedom to just mess around 
in the world there. 

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And this is exactly the 
beginning of this beautiful 

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saying by Ajam Brahm. 
This was coined by Ajam Brahm. 

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I think the idea, the difference
between the freedom of desire 

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versus the freedom from desire, 
yeah, you're moving a little bit

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away from desire. 
It's more like freedom from 

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desire to some extent that 
you're finding here. 

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Whereas the freedom of desire, 
the pursuit of things, 

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regardless of the morality you 
might breach as a consequence, 

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that is a crazy kind of desire 
only going to let you down all 

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the way here. 
So this is how you start to 

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reflect. 
Yeah. 

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And this is kind of the 
advantage of coming into 

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listening to Buddhist ideas, 
coming into contact with 

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Buddhism because they allows you
a new way of looking at the 

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world. 
Large part of the world doesn't 

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even understand such a basic 
idea that morality is a positive

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thing here. 
And the reason they don't 

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understand it is because they 
haven't got access to spiritual 

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teachings that point them in 
that direction here. 

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Once you have that access, once 
you get a degree of faith and 

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confidence in this Buddhist 
teachings, it opens your eyes to

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a new world, a new reality. 
And this is what this really is 

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about. 
What about other problems with 

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freedom? 
One of the problems with 

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freedom, one of the kind of 
things that we need to look at 

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is, well, what about this idea 
of free will? 

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How much free will do we have? 
Is there really such a thing as 

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free will? 
And one of the interesting 

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things to look at in your life 
is to look at your habits. 

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And you start to look very 
closely. 

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You start to see that we are 
very habitual beings. 

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We do things according to 
habits. 

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Yeah. 
And I always like to think of 

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myself born in Norway. 
You were surprised. 

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The kind of things I eat in 
Norway. 

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Here, you'd probably be 
disgusted. 

459
00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,520
Yeah. 
We eat things like pickled 

460
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:47,520
herrings. 
Yeah. 

461
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:51,240
We look like fish. 
That has been has been kind of 

462
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,880
lying in lie. 
Yeah. 

463
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:57,040
In alkaline solution. 
It's transparent, like Jelly. 

464
00:23:57,200 --> 00:23:59,520
It tastes like nothing. 
It's just kind of this weird 

465
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,480
stuff. 
And you would be absolutely 

466
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,680
disgusted if you saw these 
things. 

467
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,200
Well, as I kind of lap it up, 
yeah. 

468
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,160
Wow. 
This is the real delicacies. 

469
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,560
And the difference is what, 1 of
conditioning. 

470
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:09,960
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

471
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,120
Nothing more than that. 
We're such conditioned beings, 

472
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,600
and if you start to look at your
life, the things that you like, 

473
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,840
the things that you want to do 
in your life, how your mind 

474
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,240
works, the people you want to be
around, the religion that you 

475
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,160
choose, the work you're into, 
all the other things that make 

476
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:27,240
up your life. 
And you start to look back at 

477
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,720
the cause and conditions that 
make these things. 

478
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,120
You start to see the habits in 
action in your life. 

479
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:37,760
That was very interesting when I
was in the US, coming back to 

480
00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,000
the trip to the US again, 
because you get some new 

481
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,480
impulses when you go to a new 
place, as I said before. 

482
00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:47,000
So I was in Minneapolis, in 
Minnesota, pretty much the 

483
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,200
coldest place in the US, Doesn't
get much colder than that in the

484
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,280
US. 
And when I was there, it was 

485
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:57,160
-26° I was there in my sandals, 
no socks. 

486
00:24:57,160 --> 00:25:00,320
Yeah, the sandals. 
I was out for maximum 30 seconds

487
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,760
because of that. 
And it reminded me of kind of my

488
00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,400
upbringing in Norway because it 
got really cold in Norway as 

489
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,320
well. 
And but it's so weird, though, 

490
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,920
what kind of really kind of 
shocks you when you go there. 

491
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,640
Is that these Norwegians? 
Yeah, come from one of the 

492
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,320
coldest places in the world 
there. 

493
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:19,920
Yeah. 
The coldest place. 

494
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:23,400
Coldest time in Norway. 
I was was -41°. 

495
00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,480
That was the coldest. 
And that was really, really 

496
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,400
cold. 
We can barely breathe that -41 

497
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:34,200
really, really kind of terrible.
And so -41 yeah. 

498
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,760
So these Norwegians come from 
one of the coldest places in the

499
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,560
world. 
They travel kind of way, way 

500
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:42,000
across the world, thousands of 
kilometres away. 

501
00:25:42,360 --> 00:25:44,960
Where do they go? 
The coldest place in that new 

502
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,200
country here. 
Isn't that weird? 

503
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,760
Isn't that kind of straight? 
How many habits are putting? 

504
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,120
Go to Florida, for goodness 
sake. 

505
00:25:52,120 --> 00:25:54,680
Go to California. 
Go to Arizona, whatever. 

506
00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:59,280
Go to a hot place. 
Don't go to blooming Minnesota. 

507
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,160
But of course, when you 
understand the human mind, you 

508
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,560
understand why that is the case.
Yeah. 

509
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,880
It is about habit. 
It's about identity, it's about 

510
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,880
feeling sense of belonging. 
These things are far more 

511
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,640
important than kind of the 
temperature around you. 

512
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,720
And if there's no reasons that 
were used to very low 

513
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,440
temperatures, used to snow, used
all these kind of things, if 

514
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:24,160
they went to Florida, they would
probably the the sense of 

515
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:25,960
identity would dissolve. 
Yeah. 

516
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:28,240
We can't hang out with 
alligators in Florida. 

517
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:29,920
That doesn't make any sense. 
Yeah. 

518
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,680
How is that possible? 
So they go to the place where 

519
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:37,600
they feel at ease because the 
identity is attached to the 

520
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,880
cold, attached to the snow, 
attached to hard work. 

521
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,960
You have to work really hard 
when it's so cold, otherwise you

522
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,360
freeze to death and these kind 
of things. 

523
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:49,120
So that is why you go there. 
That is one of the main reasons 

524
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:56,440
why we're creatures of habit, 
because it it indulges our sense

525
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,040
of self. 
Our sense of self demands that 

526
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:03,720
kind of continuity, kind of 
consistency in our life. 

527
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:07,680
Yeah, this is kind of scary when
I start to see that This is why 

528
00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:11,360
we do the same things again and 
again and again, never really 

529
00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:13,400
changing all that much. 
If we change it maybe a little 

530
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:16,600
bit, but not too much, because 
otherwise you start to feel that

531
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,240
your sense of self is 
threatened. 

532
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:24,080
So this is the idea that we are 
very strongly conditioned and 

533
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,960
there isn't really such a big 
problem, right? 

534
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,120
OK, So what if it can be a 
problem if you're conditioned in

535
00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:32,080
the wrong way? 
So you kind of you, you know, 

536
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,120
believe in the wrong teachings 
or you believe in bad things, 

537
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,600
yes, then the conditioning can 
be really bad. 

538
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:41,400
But the fact that whether you 
like, you know, Australian food,

539
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,360
you know, Thai food and Chinese 
food, French food, Norwegian 

540
00:27:46,360 --> 00:27:49,880
fish, whatever it is, whatever 
it is that you, that is not so 

541
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,200
important. 
It doesn't really matter all 

542
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,960
that much. 
But the point is not so much 

543
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,200
what it is that you like or 
don't like. 

544
00:27:55,840 --> 00:28:00,720
The point is the fact that you 
are trapped by that conditioning

545
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,000
and that there is very little 
sense of free will there. 

546
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:07,760
That is really the point. 
You start to really question the

547
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,040
idea of free will. 
How much do you choose? 

548
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,200
And I think if you look at the 
Buddhist teachings in the right 

549
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,400
way, you start to understand 
that actually free will is 

550
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,520
mostly perhaps completely an 
illusion. 

551
00:28:20,360 --> 00:28:23,000
It is a very powerful illusion. 
It feels like you have free 

552
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,000
will. 
It feels like we're always 

553
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,160
choosing A&B, right? 
It's a very powerful illusion. 

554
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,400
But is it really? 
Then I think the answer is 

555
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:32,080
probably no. 
And if there is something, it is

556
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:36,480
a very, very attenuated and 
small minor aspect of our person

557
00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:41,320
that is free in that way. 
And once you start to see that, 

558
00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:46,000
it starts to become scary 
because there are things in life

559
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,920
that are not innocent. 
And one of the thing that is not

560
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,440
innocent is a thing like anger. 
Whether you like fish or you 

561
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,600
like, you know, potatoes or 
whatever, it doesn't really 

562
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,520
matter so much. 
But when it comes to things like

563
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,320
being angry and upset with the 
world, it has very detrimental 

564
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,080
effects on you and the people 
around you. 

565
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:07,440
That is where it is scary. 
But if I ask you to not get 

566
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:10,520
angry at all, not to get 
irritated at all, not to get 

567
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:15,720
upset at all for the next week 
at all for one week, would you 

568
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:19,440
be able to do it? 
I can almost guarantee you that 

569
00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,720
you wouldn't. 
Yeah. 

570
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,440
If you can stay one day without 
getting irritated, that would be

571
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:27,600
a miracle already. 
Most people get angry or upset 

572
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,800
or at least irritated several 
times a day. 

573
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,680
When we go through all the 
things that we have to do to 

574
00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,160
stay for a whole week, you 
almost have to be enlightened. 

575
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,080
Yeah. 
To not be angry for a whole 

576
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:37,560
week. 
Yeah. 

577
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:40,760
Or at least get very good 
samadhi, because it actually is 

578
00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,880
very difficult thing to do for 
most people. 

579
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:47,480
And when you see that, you see 
that you cannot even control 

580
00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:50,040
your temper in this way. 
There's nothing you really you 

581
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:52,840
can do about it. 
You start to understand what 

582
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:54,720
that you are a bit like in 
machine. 

583
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,760
You get into the wrong 
situation, you come with, you 

584
00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:02,160
hang out with the wrong people 
and certain things come out of 

585
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,400
you whether you want to or not. 
You can't really control it. 

586
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,520
Or if you can control, maybe you
can do it once or twice. 

587
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,480
Yeah. 
And then you feel exhausted and 

588
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,520
then kind of it comes out again.
And that is kind of the scary 

589
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,720
part. 
This is the conditioned nature 

590
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,480
of our reality. 
And we start to understand that 

591
00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:23,200
if there is no will, I can 
actually sort these things out. 

592
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:26,800
If will isn't free here, then we
have a very serious problem. 

593
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,680
We have to recondition ourselves
very slowly and very gradually 

594
00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,640
and then maybe we can escape 
these really big problems in our

595
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,360
human personalities, the anger, 
the delusion, the excessive 

596
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:40,920
greed, all of these kind of 
things. 

597
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:45,000
So habit is a very, very 
powerful thing here. 

598
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,880
I always talk about habits as a 
super tanker here, you know, 

599
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:54,040
super tanker, the ship going 
down very, maybe 20 knots an 

600
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,800
hour or whatever, extremely 
heavy shape, very, very hard to 

601
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,240
turn around. 
But gradually, gradually you do 

602
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,880
turn it around and then it 
starts to, things become 

603
00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:06,520
different after a while there, 
but it's not something you can 

604
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,960
do on the spot. 
That is part of the problem 

605
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,840
there. 
So I say that there isn't really

606
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,720
any free will in the world. 
If there is free will, it is 

607
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,040
very small. 
And if there isn't any free 

608
00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:20,240
will, well, that kind of makes 
this whole idea of the pursuit 

609
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,680
of happiness, liberty look very 
different all of a sudden. 

610
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:28,680
And I want to then move onto 
this idea. 

611
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,080
Well, if there isn't any free 
will, what does liberty then 

612
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:34,840
mean? 
What does freedom mean if there 

613
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:37,720
is no free will? 
Because the answer this still is

614
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,200
a kind of freedom there. 
Yeah. 

615
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,520
But before we go there, before I
even look at that to kind of 

616
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,680
understand what this freedom 
means, let us assume for a 

617
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,840
moment that there is actually 
such a thing as freedom of will.

618
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:56,880
Let's assume that you can choose
whatever you like in this world.

619
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:01,200
What does that actually mean? 
What you will start to realise 

620
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,680
when you look at it in the right
way. 

621
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,840
Actually, even if there is 
freedom of will, it doesn't 

622
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,480
really mean all that much. 
It doesn't really have many 

623
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:12,680
positive consequences. 
What does freedom of the will 

624
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,280
mean for most people? 
Freedom of choice, and usually 

625
00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:18,640
what it means, it means that in 
the morning when you wake up, 

626
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:22,000
you can choose whether you want 
this cereal or that cereal. 

627
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:23,960
Yeah. 
If you're really adventurous, 

628
00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:25,760
maybe you have a croissant for 
breakfast. 

629
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:27,040
Yeah. 
I don't know if you have that, 

630
00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,600
have that, or if you come here 
for breakfast. 

631
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,080
If you're a monkey, I'm not 
going to say what do you get for

632
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,640
breakfast because you'll be so 
jealous if you heard jealous if 

633
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:37,680
you have breakfast over here. 
But regardless of what you have 

634
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,880
for breakfast, Yeah. 
This is kind of the choices that

635
00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,160
we are dealing with in the 
normal realm of human beings. 

636
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,760
You can choose job A or you can 
choose job B. 

637
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,520
Yeah, you can choose partner A 
or partner B here. 

638
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:51,040
You can choose religion A or 
religion B here. 

639
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:54,120
Religion B, always go for 
religion B, right? 

640
00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,880
B for Buddhism, so and so. 
But these are the kind of 

641
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,800
choices we make, and most of 
those choices are in the realm 

642
00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,400
of the five sentences. 
How much difference does it make

643
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,080
in your life whether you choose 
to have an apple or an orange, 

644
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,280
whether you choose to have 
pickled herring or barramundi? 

645
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,440
Barramundi, that's kind of the 
local fish right there. 

646
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:17,640
I see. 
I know a little bit about 

647
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,680
Australia. 
So barramundi or pickled 

648
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,080
herring, how much difference 
does it really make? 

649
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:26,240
And the answer is, it makes a 
tiny bit of difference in your 

650
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,320
life, but it doesn't really make
all that much difference at all 

651
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,360
there. 
The problem is, in our life, we 

652
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,720
don't understand where real 
happiness is to be found. 

653
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:39,200
That is the real problem. 
And because we don't understand 

654
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,640
where it is to be found, we 
can't choose it. 

655
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,600
So if you have freedom of 
choice, but you don't know where

656
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,240
happiness is to be found, what 
is the point of that freedom of 

657
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,480
choice? 
You can only choose within a 

658
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:56,120
very narrow framework of things 
that are really quite irrelevant

659
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,320
to your happiness anyway. 
If you don't have the bird's eye

660
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,680
view to understand real 
happiness where it actually is, 

661
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:06,240
there is nothing really useful 
about that freedom of choice. 

662
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,159
It becomes this stupid thing 
that has no relevance to your 

663
00:34:10,159 --> 00:34:14,000
life. 
The biggest problem for freedom,

664
00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:18,120
the biggest problem for liberty,
the biggest problem for becoming

665
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,639
happy, is the delusion, the 
misunderstanding, the wrong view

666
00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:25,960
of the nature of reality. 
That is the real problem. 

667
00:34:27,159 --> 00:34:31,120
Once you start to open up the 
alternative view of the world, 

668
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,719
once you start to take away the 
delusion in human beings seeing 

669
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,280
the world in the right way, that
is where you open up the 

670
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,560
possibility of real happiness, 
because now you're seeing the 

671
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:46,199
world in the right way. 
This is the problem for freedom.

672
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,159
The problem for freedom is not 
whether there is free will or 

673
00:34:49,159 --> 00:34:50,440
not. 
That's kind of completely 

674
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,480
irrelevant. 
So what does this mean? 

675
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:59,000
All it means, as I said at the 
very beginning, when you come to

676
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:02,160
this Buddhist teachings, you 
start to read the word of the 

677
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:05,360
Buddha, you start to think about
life in a new way. 

678
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,400
The first thing you do is you 
start to realise that actually 

679
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:13,240
morality is actually really 
important for having a sense of 

680
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:16,680
internal freedom. 
Internal freedom cannot be had 

681
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,920
without morality, without 
kindness, without care, without 

682
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,840
looking after each other in the 
right way. 

683
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,160
There is no freedom without 
that. 

684
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,800
Morality is a fundamental aspect
of the idea of freedom. 

685
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,680
You start to see that, you start
to practice it, you start to 

686
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,840
feel it, the consequences come 
out. 

687
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,120
But of course it goes much 
deeper than that. 

688
00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:39,320
The Buddha says if you want real
freedom, the real freedom is the

689
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,000
freedom of the mind. 
Where is that to be found? 

690
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:47,520
It is to be found in meditation 
practice, right? 

691
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,280
You start to practice 
meditation, you start to feel 

692
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,080
that the mind settles down. 
You start to feel there's no 

693
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:58,080
more thinking going on in the 
mind. 

694
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,480
You start to feel that the body 
fades away a little bit. 

695
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,120
Yeah, no more pains in the body.
The body is kind of irrelevant. 

696
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,280
Your senses are becoming less 
important because you have your 

697
00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,120
eyes closed. 
There's very few sounds going on

698
00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:14,200
around you, and you start to 
feel peaceful inside. 

699
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,360
What does that feel like? 
And it feels like a kind of 

700
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,880
freedom. 
You are free of many of the 

701
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,360
irritations of ordinary life. 
It feels beautiful. 

702
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,160
You start to realise that some 
of the ordinary thought patterns

703
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,680
that we have, the ill will, the 
desires that we have, the 

704
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,840
restlessness in the mind, the 
tiredness, the lethargy, all of 

705
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,120
these kind of things, they are 
not there anymore and you feel 

706
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,960
free. 
As a consequence, you start to 

707
00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560
feel happiness, you start to 
feel bliss. 

708
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:49,360
You start to understand that an 
other reality is possible. 

709
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,160
This is what you see through the
meditation because initially you

710
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,920
just have a sense of confidence 
and faith in the word of the 

711
00:36:55,920 --> 00:37:01,160
Buddha. 
Yeah, this is opens up your eyes

712
00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:04,480
to new reality. 
Now you can choose. 

713
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,080
Now you can choose because you 
now you know that there is no 

714
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:09,880
other reality. 
You know that there's something 

715
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,440
more in this world and there's 
the ordinary humdrum things of 

716
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:16,720
ordinary life that actually are 
not very interesting, actually 

717
00:37:16,720 --> 00:37:19,880
quite boring, that are not 
really real choices at all 

718
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,760
there. 
So it opens up your eyes to new 

719
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,720
possibility. 
Now you can start to make real 

720
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:29,080
choices because you know about 
the alternatives that exist. 

721
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:34,040
The deeper you take your 
meditation, the more freedom you

722
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,280
feel. 
The more you understand this 

723
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,120
alternative reality in the 
world, what actually can be done

724
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,240
with our lives, where real 
freedom truly lies. 

725
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:48,520
Then you have those choices. 
Eventually you may reach a state

726
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:52,840
of deep samadhi, deep stillness 
of the mind, the things that 

727
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:56,280
Ajam Brahm talks about, the Jana
state, the profound states of 

728
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,920
meditation practice. 
And once you see these kind of 

729
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,840
things, you understand that 
ordinary reality of human beings

730
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:10,120
is a very poor thing indeed, 
very uninteresting thing indeed.

731
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,320
There is something completely 
beyond our ordinary reality 

732
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:17,320
that's so much more interesting 
here than what we normally are 

733
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,640
interested in. 
Once you see that, you can never

734
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:24,160
turn back again because you have
understood something, you have 

735
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,400
changed your outlook, your view 
of the world once and for all. 

736
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,960
Then you have a real freedom of 
choice because now you 

737
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:36,840
understand where happiness is. 
That is the freedom that we 

738
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,360
want. 
Who cares about that ordinary 

739
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:40,880
freedom of choice and ordinary 
life? 

740
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:43,200
It's irrelevant. 
It's our blindness to the 

741
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:46,600
possibilities in our life that 
is a real problem. 

742
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,600
The path goes even further 
because after the ideas of 

743
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:56,560
samadhi, after the ideas of the 
stillness of the mind, comes the

744
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,840
insights of the mind, and this 
is what we call the pandya 

745
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:01,920
vimutti, as I was mentioning at 
the very beginning. 

746
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,800
Yeah, the liberation through 
wisdom, and this is the highest 

747
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,640
kind of freedom. 
When you start to see what is 

748
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,840
going on, even in this area, you
can start to choose wisdom in 

749
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:15,680
your life because you start to 
understand that there is such a 

750
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,760
thing as profound wisdom on the 
Buddhist path. 

751
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,120
Once you see it, once you know 
it is there, then you can choose

752
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,200
it. 
Otherwise you can't even choose 

753
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,880
it. 
So coming to the Buddhist 

754
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,800
teaching is a profound benefit. 
Yeah, because it opens up your 

755
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:35,680
eyes to these new possibilities.
It opens up just by reading the 

756
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,120
word of the Buddha. 
Yeah. 

757
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:40,720
If you are, if you are open to 
the word of the Buddha, if you 

758
00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:43,520
have the ability to gain a 
degree of confidence in those 

759
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,000
teachings, it is already a guide
in the right direction. 

760
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,440
This is why the Buddha is said 
to be the eye of the world. 

761
00:39:50,720 --> 00:39:52,320
Because the Buddha's eyes are 
open. 

762
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:56,480
He sees it, tells us the reality
that he has seen, and allows us 

763
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,560
to follow the same track and 
reach the same kind of 

764
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,280
liberations. 
This is what freedom means. 

765
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,240
This is the idea of freedom, of 
Buddhist freedom of the will. 

766
00:40:06,360 --> 00:40:09,600
Forget it, It doesn't matter. 
This is this sort of freedom 

767
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,200
that actually is what really is 
important in life. 

768
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:18,040
But there's one. 
The last idea of freedom, that 

769
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:21,200
is actually very fascinating and
very interesting, yeah. 

770
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:26,960
And this is the idea that. 
Well, maybe the whole idea of 

771
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,880
choosing. 
Yeah. 

772
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:32,520
The whole idea of willing, the 
whole idea that the will 

773
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,480
actually matters all that much. 
Maybe that whole thing is a 

774
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:40,080
problem in the 1st place. 
Maybe the will is a pain in the 

775
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:43,720
wherever. 
Yeah, it's a pain. 

776
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,760
Yeah. 
Maybe the wind is a problem. 

777
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:50,120
And one of the kind of amazing 
things that you find in a 

778
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,800
meditation practice is like 
anyone who has done a little bit

779
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,800
of meditation will realise, is 
that one of the great benefits 

780
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,440
of meditation is when the mind 
becomes peaceful. 

781
00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:05,920
And when the mind becomes 
peaceful, one of the things that

782
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:11,040
is starting to disappear in that
mind is the doing, is the will, 

783
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:14,360
is the activity of the mind. 
It's the choices that are 

784
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:18,800
actually being taken away. 
And the deeper the stillness of 

785
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,880
your mind, the less will, the 
less choices is actually 

786
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:26,800
happening in that mind. 
And that's just when you start 

787
00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:31,320
to understand that actually the 
problem is actually much deeper 

788
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,280
than we thought it was in the 
first place. 

789
00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:37,760
The problem is not that we have 
to choose the right thing, but 

790
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:41,320
the whole idea of choice is 
actually a problem. 

791
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:46,640
The less choosing you do, the 
less willing you do, the more 

792
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:52,360
liberated you feel. 
Choice is part of the prison of 

793
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,360
Sansara. 
Choice is part of the prison of 

794
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,600
personality, of living in the 
world. 

795
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:01,000
Take away choice, take away the 
will. 

796
00:42:01,240 --> 00:42:04,600
That is where you find the most 
fundamental freedom of all on 

797
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,880
the Buddhist spiritual path. 
And This is why when you enter a

798
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:13,920
very deep state of samadhi, a 
very deep state of meditation, 

799
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,480
yeah, where the mind becomes 
completely still there, there's 

800
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,400
complete unification of the 
mind. 

801
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:23,200
Where there's no desires anymore
because there's no desires, 

802
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,760
there's nothing to do. 
Because there's nothing to do. 

803
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,080
There is no willing. 
There is no choice. 

804
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:30,000
There's nothing happening inside
of you. 

805
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,480
You're not going anywhere 
anymore because there's nowhere 

806
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:35,560
to go if there's nothing of 
interest in that world. 

807
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:38,600
Yeah. 
So you're completely content 

808
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:42,880
with what you have. 
There's no choice at that point.

809
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:46,640
You have find found the highest 
happiness that you have ever 

810
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:50,480
seen in your life when there's 
no choosing whatsoever. 

811
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,720
This is one of those very 
fundamental insights in 

812
00:42:54,720 --> 00:42:59,520
Buddhism, when you understand 
that actually the idea of 

813
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:04,440
freedom of choice, the idea of 
free will, is fundamentally 

814
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:08,080
flawed because the whole idea of
willing itself is actually the 

815
00:43:08,080 --> 00:43:11,120
problem on the Buddhist path. 
Give up the will. 

816
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:15,840
That is where you find the most 
fundamental of all freedoms on 

817
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:19,000
the Buddhist path. 
And when you give up the idea of

818
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:24,320
will, when you give up through a
state of very deep samadhi, 

819
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,840
which I would argue is one of 
the fundamental feelings of 

820
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:31,040
finding the very meaning of 
life, you're actually very close

821
00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,080
to awakening itself, very close 
to the idea of enlightenment. 

822
00:43:35,720 --> 00:43:40,600
Because the will is one of those
very fundamental aspects of the 

823
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,200
sense of self that we have. 
If you ask people what they 

824
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,560
identify with, they identify 
with the creator, the doer, the 

825
00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:51,040
willing inside. 
We are doers in the world. 

826
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,600
We enjoy creation, we enjoy 
doing. 

827
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:55,280
We enjoy all of these kind of 
things. 

828
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,040
We enjoy giving talks. 
Oops. 

829
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,720
We should be careful here. 
OK, maybe sit quiet. 

830
00:44:01,720 --> 00:44:03,760
Is that No, OK, I'll finish off 
the talk here. 

831
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:08,520
So, yeah. 
So you are very close there to 

832
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,080
come reaching enlightenment 
itself, because you have seen 

833
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,200
that one of the fundamental 
aspects of personality, of the 

834
00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,600
sense of self actually is an 
illusion, is a problem. 

835
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,800
And once you see that, of 
course, you start to give it up.

836
00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:25,680
That doesn't make any sense 
anymore to hold onto that, that 

837
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,920
aspect of self actually starts 
to fall away. 

838
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,360
So you're coming towards the 
very, very profound aspects of 

839
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,160
the Buddhist path. 
When you see this in the right 

840
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:38,760
way, that is where you start to 
reach the ultimate freedom of 

841
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,960
the Buddhist path. 
You penetrate through the idea 

842
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,280
of non self. 
You penetrate. 

843
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,760
You see that as it actually is. 
And that is where of course, you

844
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:51,680
find the final truest happiness 
of all. 

845
00:44:51,720 --> 00:44:53,760
Why? 
Because you have right view, 

846
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:57,360
delusion is gone. 
And when delusion is completely 

847
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:02,480
gone, that is when you know 
where to find happiness, only by

848
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,160
removing the delusion from your 
eyes, taking it all the way to 

849
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:10,320
the full inside on the Buddhist 
path, Then you can choose fully 

850
00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:14,240
in the right way at all times, 
because now you know finally, 

851
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,320
once and for all, where 
happiness is to be found. 

852
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:25,720
OK, so that is all I wish to say
this evening. 

853
00:45:25,720 --> 00:45:28,000
Yeah. 
So there you are here. 

854
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:38,000
So are there any questions or 
comments from anyone please? 

855
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:48,720
This is your chance to to ask. 
You're very welcome to if you 

856
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,480
that thing is don't understand 
or you want to challenge 

857
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,480
something, you're very welcome 
to do so because that's always 

858
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:55,400
nice to have. 
Eddie. 

859
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,480
Oh, wow, what a surprise. 
OK, please find Eddie. 

860
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,920
This is a very, very, very 
strong, I mean powerful talk, 

861
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:06,880
you know, on freedom. 
Yeah. 

862
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,600
The Buddha was telling us that 
we are all trapped in samsara. 

863
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:18,760
Now, coming back to freedom. 
Yeah, the opposite of freedom is

864
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,960
attachment. 
And in Buddha was telling us 

865
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:26,520
attachment brings suffering. 
All right, Yeah. 

866
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:30,440
So if you in this way. 
OK, there's another angle from 

867
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,320
what you're saying. 
OK, attachment brings suffering.

868
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,800
We the attachment comes from our
minds in it. 

869
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:39,040
So we have to learn to let go of
the love. 

870
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:43,720
All this bullshit going on, you 
know, you know, we've been 

871
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:47,520
conditioned to think of certain 
ways in it, you know, which 

872
00:46:47,560 --> 00:46:50,840
which really brings up academic 
and go on for hours and hours 

873
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,280
talk about the the, the 
different types of condition. 

874
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:56,760
You know, we have to learn to 
let go of all this nonsense, you

875
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:01,400
know, you know, in order to free
ourselves, you know, it comes 

876
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,000
all of mind. 
So each time when we have 

877
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,120
problem we have to work this 
way. 

878
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:09,120
Isn't it individually? 
Yeah, you're right. 

879
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,240
Of course. 
The attachment is a very big 

880
00:47:11,240 --> 00:47:14,480
problem because when you attach 
then you you see things in the 

881
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:16,800
wrong way, you have delusion. 
So it causes suffering. 

882
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:18,440
You're right. 
But you know, one of the things 

883
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,680
is that about the Buddhist path 
is that attachment is a 

884
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,120
hierarchy. 
Yeah. 

885
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,000
You cannot, you cannot avoid 
attachment if you have an 

886
00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,040
ordinary mind. 
The world in mind of ordinary 

887
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:32,720
people has to attach because 
that's the nature of a sense of 

888
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:35,360
self is that it will attach in 
various ways. 

889
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,560
So sometimes you can work 
another attachment. 

890
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:40,200
You can work and work and work. 
And actually after many years 

891
00:47:40,200 --> 00:47:42,840
you come back to square one 
because you didn't deal with the

892
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:47,040
underlying problem. 
So more important than trying to

893
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:53,200
deal with the attachment 
directly is to practice the 

894
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:57,040
Noble Air Full path, practice 
kindness, practice morality. 

895
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,520
I think you're it's coming with 
you get a bit of feedback 

896
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:04,680
through your microphone, Eddie. 
Yeah, So, and, and that is the 

897
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,880
problem. 
So instead of trying too hard to

898
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,240
overcome attachments, you get a 
little bit of that you can do. 

899
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,280
Yeah, because it's good to 
reflect a little bit. 

900
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,800
But more important is actually 
to practice the Noble Air full 

901
00:48:13,800 --> 00:48:16,040
path. 
And the automatic consequence of

902
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,200
practice in Noble Air Full path 
is that the attachments will be 

903
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:24,360
reduced to, yeah, being kind, 
being moral, thinking, words of 

904
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,360
kindness, etcetera, etcetera. 
Yeah. 

905
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,680
So yes. 
Thank you. 

906
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,120
All right. 
Anyone else want to say 

907
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:37,840
anything? 
Yeah, we have over here, please.

908
00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:43,480
Just going back to the fish in 
the tank. 

909
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:44,960
OK. 
Yeah, good. 

910
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:47,200
If you were one of those fish, 
yeah. 

911
00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:51,360
Would you choose to stay there 
or leave given the choice? 

912
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,760
Depends on how wise the fish is,
right? 

913
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:55,080
Well. 
Who knows? 

914
00:48:55,240 --> 00:48:57,840
If it is an unwise fish, it 
might actually want to go back 

915
00:48:57,840 --> 00:48:59,920
into the river. 
But if it is a wise fish that 

916
00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,440
understands the Buddha's 
teaching, it will stay in the 

917
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:03,080
tank. 
Yeah, well. 

918
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,120
It sounds very similar to the 
Buddha's early life, doesn't it?

919
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,120
Say again. 
It sounds very similar to the 

920
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:12,280
Buddha's early life. 
Was he not a fish in a tank? 

921
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,040
What do you mean here? 
Well. 

922
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:20,480
Before he jumped the wall and 
nicked off, he found 

923
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,680
enlightenment. 
Wasn't he? 

924
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:22,920
Like a. 
Fish, I think. 

925
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,720
I think it was a fish in the 
river before that. 

926
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:25,920
Yeah, he was a fish in the 
river. 

927
00:49:27,000 --> 00:49:28,600
His early life when he was a 
Prince. 

928
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,280
Yeah. 
He was like a fish in the tank, 

929
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,880
he was protected and everything.
Like that, I would say he was a 

930
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:37,440
fish in the river at that time. 
There was only after he became a

931
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:40,000
the Buddha that he became a real
fish in the tank, because that's

932
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:43,600
when he got that's when the 
morality really becomes strong, 

933
00:49:43,600 --> 00:49:45,160
right? 
He was still kind of, kind of 

934
00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:46,840
slightly wild before that. 
He hasn't. 

935
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:50,520
He hadn't yet tamed all the wild
impulses in himself. 

936
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:52,240
Yeah, I, I agree. 
Yeah. 

937
00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:54,680
But it's very similar to his 
early life. 

938
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,680
He was wrapped up in a blanket 
in in the castle and all that. 

939
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,680
Yeah, Yeah. 
I, I mean, yeah, I mean there's 

940
00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:03,880
many points to that. 
You can. 

941
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:07,760
I mean, one of the problems with
that is that even if you are, no

942
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:10,960
matter how wrapped up you are in
the kind of in the castle and 

943
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,840
kind of cuddled and looked 
after, whatever the the reality 

944
00:50:14,840 --> 00:50:16,320
of life is always going to be 
there. 

945
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,880
Yeah, the problems of life are 
always going to be there and 

946
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,160
there's always going to be 
behind you. 

947
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,400
And it's really only when you 
become the Buddha and you kind 

948
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,120
of become enlightened and you 
practice the spiritual part that

949
00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,480
actually those deep seated 
problems of life actually become

950
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:31,640
overcome. 
As long even if you are looked 

951
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,920
after like the Buddha was, still
you can't really get away from 

952
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:41,600
the problems of life. 
So yeah, Anyway, I got a 

953
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:44,040
question to the last part that 
you said. 

954
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,040
Yeah, please. 
And you were talking about 

955
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,120
creating things. 
And as I understood it, I 

956
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,840
mentioned we should first go 
into ourselves before creating 

957
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,240
anything, as I understood you 
correctly. 

958
00:50:55,520 --> 00:50:59,400
At what point would you suggest 
getting active as some sort of a

959
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,880
creator? 
When is the content good enough 

960
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,360
to the sound is really bad. 
It's kind of a bit hard for me 

961
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:08,320
to hear. 
Can you please try again? 

962
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:09,200
Would you mind? 
Sorry about that. 

963
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:13,160
Yeah. 
And you mentioned that maybe a 

964
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,920
turn around and you mentioned 
that being a creator, we should 

965
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:21,440
not get too early into the stage
of creating stuff. 

966
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,960
So rather look into ourselves 
and wait until the content is 

967
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:29,080
good enough. 
Or how would you could you 

968
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:33,160
explain that a bit more? 
What what what I was saying was 

969
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:38,600
that I was just talking about 
the idea of the will and choice 

970
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:44,200
and these kind of things that 
the, you know, so much of our 

971
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,040
life is kind of based on the 
idea. 

972
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,600
We want to create things in the 
world. 

973
00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:48,800
We want to do things in the 
world. 

974
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,920
And whenever you do something, 
yeah, you feel good, feel good 

975
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:53,280
that we created something. 
Yeah. 

976
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,080
I'm the creator. 
We identify with the doer. 

977
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,080
We identify with the creator 
inside of us. 

978
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:01,560
You see some people who are 
compulsive doers always doing 

979
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,840
things continuously because that
is how the sense of self is 

980
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:08,560
gratified in a certain way. 
But there is a profound problem 

981
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:11,360
with that, and that is that 
actually the whole idea of doing

982
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:14,760
and creating and using the will 
is actually a state of 

983
00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:16,760
suffering. 
Yeah, that was my point. 

984
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,280
When you can only see that when 
you go into a very deep state of

985
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,560
meditation, when the will starts
to subside and the will is 

986
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,640
completely gone, that is when 
you start to find the real 

987
00:52:25,640 --> 00:52:28,080
meaning of life. 
You start to find profound sense

988
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,200
of happiness. 
And that's when you understand 

989
00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:34,960
that the whole idea of creating 
yourself into happiness is a 

990
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:36,000
delusion. 
That's what we try to do. 

991
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,000
We try to create ourselves into 
happiness by creating things. 

992
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,400
But actually the creating itself
is a state of suffering. 

993
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:44,600
So that's why it is delusion 
here. 

994
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,880
Is that what you're asking here?
Something like that. 

995
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:50,960
OK, so that was kind of the 
point I was trying to make. 

996
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:55,160
And so This is why the states of
meditation, one of the reasons 

997
00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:58,600
why they are so extremely 
pleasant, it's precisely because

998
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:03,240
you're giving up the whole idea 
of doing and and creating and 

999
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:07,880
agency and all these kind of 
things over here. 

1000
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:17,480
Bill Hap. 
Thank you for a really really 

1001
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:21,160
inspiring talk. 
It was very enjoyable and very 

1002
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:27,640
deep and profound. 
It actually helps to take me 

1003
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:33,760
back to my Christian upbringing 
as a Catholic because that's 

1004
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,960
what we were brought up with, 
that it wasn't our will, it was 

1005
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:42,640
God's will. 
And also in all the the 

1006
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,240
addiction, the seven step 
programs, they say give. 

1007
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:51,240
There is a higher power, you 
must give to the higher power. 

1008
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:56,120
It's not thy will. 
So yes, thank you for helping me

1009
00:53:56,120 --> 00:54:04,960
to understand more deeply the 
actual, the jewel of 

1010
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,680
Christianity that I never 
understood. 

1011
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,960
So thank you. 
I think, OK, so let me just 

1012
00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:15,040
respond to that very briefly 
because I think there's a slight

1013
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:19,040
difference there and that I, I 
agree with you. 

1014
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,360
The idea that, you know, there 
is no personal will, that is, is

1015
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,080
the same way. 
But I think this, this slight 

1016
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:25,960
difference of course would be, 
and I'm sure, you know, this 

1017
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,800
already would be that from 
Buddhist point of view, we don't

1018
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,680
see that as kind of a higher 
will that works through us. 

1019
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,400
We just see that as the will 
being conditioned. 

1020
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,080
Yeah. 
So the will comes about or the 

1021
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,840
choice comes about through 
conditioning, not through a 

1022
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,480
higher power. 
Yeah, that would be the 

1023
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:43,200
difference there. 
Yeah. 

1024
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:48,040
I'm sorry but I disagree because
you're talking about the Buddha 

1025
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:50,800
being the higher power, no? 
Not really. 

1026
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:55,240
Because we, we, we're following 
his teachings for, for our 

1027
00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:59,800
salvation, so to speak. 
OK, there is a way in in which 

1028
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,240
you're right about that. 
I would agree with you, because 

1029
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:05,520
of course the Buddha's teaching 
does influence our will, 

1030
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,720
obviously, because that's why 
we're practicing the Buddhist 

1031
00:55:07,720 --> 00:55:10,720
path there. 
But as a general principle, if 

1032
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:13,280
you look apart from, you know, 
if you look at any person, 

1033
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,640
whether they are Buddhist or an 
atheist or an agnostic, or they 

1034
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,840
worship for an Odin, my other 
favorite gods apart from 

1035
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,440
Buddhism, or they worship 
whatever, whatever region they 

1036
00:55:23,440 --> 00:55:27,640
belong to, whatever the outlook,
whoever they are, there's one 

1037
00:55:27,640 --> 00:55:30,360
principle that unites all of 
them, and that is the principle 

1038
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,280
of conditioning. 
Yeah. 

1039
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,520
The will is conditioned. 
Choice is conditioned. 

1040
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:36,640
It's universally applicable in 
that sense. 

1041
00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:38,240
Yeah. 
Thank you. 

1042
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:44,520
All right, so let's anyone else 
know. 

1043
00:55:44,520 --> 00:55:46,800
Everyone happy? 
OK, so let's just have a quick 

1044
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:49,600
look at some questions from 
outside of here. 

1045
00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:53,120
So we have Wolfram Garby from 
Germany. 

1046
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,600
I'm seriously ill and that makes
my loved one sad to see here. 

1047
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,040
What can I do to ease her 
worries and fears and give her 

1048
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,400
joy and peace and contentment 
and strength instead? 

1049
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:13,360
How can I help her? 
OK, so the way to help people 

1050
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,360
when you are seriously ill or 
even if you are dying is to 

1051
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:20,800
remind them that you know your 
death. 

1052
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:24,280
If you are a good person 
involved from I, I'm sure you 

1053
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,600
are a good person because you 
have been around for a long 

1054
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,800
time. 
You're practising in a good way 

1055
00:56:29,120 --> 00:56:32,000
and good people always have a 
good future. 

1056
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,760
Regardless of whether you die, 
regardless of whether you're 

1057
00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:37,960
sick, you have a good future if 
you are a good person. 

1058
00:56:38,400 --> 00:56:41,200
That's such a beautiful way of 
thinking about life, because it 

1059
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,640
means that all the problems in 
the world become far less of a 

1060
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,120
burden on us when we understand 
that we have a good future, 

1061
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:51,120
regardless of what happens in 
the world, regardless of what 

1062
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:57,040
happens to our body. 
So tell your loved one that you 

1063
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,960
will be good. 
Yeah, you will be fine. 

1064
00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:04,080
And she can, if you were to have
even worse sickness or maybe you

1065
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,800
were to die or whatever, that 
your future is safe so she can 

1066
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:10,720
be happy on your behalf, that 
you are going into a good place.

1067
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,160
And maybe where you are going, 
maybe you will be able to kind 

1068
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:17,000
of, you know, wave to her and 
say carry on with your life. 

1069
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:18,840
Yeah, I'm fine. 
Just, you know, just chill. 

1070
00:57:18,840 --> 00:57:21,800
There's no problems here at all.
And that kind of way of thinking

1071
00:57:21,800 --> 00:57:25,800
about death makes it far less 
daunting and far less painful 

1072
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:29,280
experience. 
So something like that, I, I've 

1073
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:33,160
had family members, close family
members die and I never really 

1074
00:57:33,160 --> 00:57:36,120
felt very sad about it. 
And I because I knew that they 

1075
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,600
had been good people living in 
the right way. 

1076
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,160
And I thought they were probably
just waving down to me and say, 

1077
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:42,840
OK, good on you for being a 
Buddhist monk. 

1078
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:45,680
Yeah, carry on with that. 
That's the right, right approach

1079
00:57:45,720 --> 00:57:48,280
because they were very happy 
with me as a Buddhist monk, 

1080
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:51,360
especially towards the not in 
the beginning, but after a 

1081
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:51,960
while. 
Yeah. 

1082
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,840
OK, let's go on to the second 
question here. 

1083
00:57:57,400 --> 00:58:00,560
This is from Smith Tenzin from 
India. 

1084
00:58:00,560 --> 00:58:01,400
That's really cool. 
Hello. 

1085
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:04,120
Hello there. 
In India, I'm thinking freedom 

1086
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,880
from fear is probably the 
biggest freedom of all of your 

1087
00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,440
thoughts because all attachments
arise from fear. 

1088
00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:16,440
Even attachment to food is the 
innate fear of not getting 

1089
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:20,320
enough. 
What should we do to overcome 

1090
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:25,400
that? 
Freedom from fear is probably 

1091
00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:29,480
the highest freedom. 
Yeah, yeah, it goes, I think. 

1092
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:30,920
I would say it goes deeper than 
that. 

1093
00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:36,800
It's quite possible to have full
freedom from also from other 

1094
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,800
things that are even more 
profound, like the sense of self

1095
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:41,760
and these kind of things. 
Or or not. 

1096
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:43,520
All the attachments come from 
fear. 

1097
00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:46,280
Some attachments just come from 
wanting to enjoy the world. 

1098
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:52,360
There's a number of different 
things there, but how do you, 

1099
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:56,520
how do you get to the freedom of
fear, presumably is what you're 

1100
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,480
asking from here. 
And the main way of overcoming 

1101
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:05,400
free fear is basically that fear
is always about the future. 

1102
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,840
Anxiety is always about the 
future. 

1103
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:11,400
So it is best by living well and
starting to understand that you 

1104
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:14,600
are creating a happy future for 
yourself by living well. 

1105
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:19,120
And it's almost an intuition, 
you know that you're going to be

1106
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,080
OK if you live well. 
It's almost like it feels like 

1107
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,320
that, yeah. 
If you come from kindness, if 

1108
00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:27,440
you act from kindness, if you 
treat other people well, if you 

1109
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,080
have met the compassion for the 
world, all of these things that 

1110
00:59:31,080 --> 00:59:33,840
you just naturally have a good 
sense about yourself. 

1111
00:59:34,800 --> 00:59:38,080
So just live well, understand 
that your future is bright if 

1112
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:40,920
you are a good person. 
And then fear starts to subside.

1113
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:44,240
And then also you need to attach
to food and all of these kind of

1114
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,760
things will also subside as a 
consequence. 

1115
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,640
It all comes back to the same 
basic principles of practising 

1116
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:55,360
the spiritual path. 
Then we have Q from Borneo. 

1117
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,840
His name or her name is Q, just 
AQ. 

1118
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,440
OK, That's like the letter Q in 
the alphabet. 

1119
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:04,240
That's interesting here. 
So hello Q. 

1120
01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:09,880
How are thoughts, feeling and 
mind connected? 

1121
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,240
Are monks allowed to have 
emotions or feelings? 

1122
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,400
What kind of feeling is allowed?
I don't think you have much 

1123
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,280
choice about having feelings and
emotions, whether you are 

1124
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:23,640
allowed. 
If you weren't allowed to have 

1125
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:25,080
that, you have a serious 
problem, I think. 

1126
01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:27,400
Yeah. 
So I can guarantee you that all 

1127
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,760
monks, all nuns, all human 
beings, even the Buddha had 

1128
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:34,640
emotions and feelings. 
So how are they connected? 

1129
01:00:35,880 --> 01:00:41,080
Well, thoughts are just one 
particular aspect of the mind. 

1130
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,840
The word mind, chitta impale, is
like a umbrella term, which 

1131
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:50,320
means all the, all the mental 
content you have, that's mind. 

1132
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:52,800
Within that mind, many things go
on. 

1133
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,560
One thing that goes on is 
thought. 

1134
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,080
Thought is like the movement. 
Yeah, it's like verbalisation or

1135
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:02,520
pictures, the movement of the 
mind, things moving on. 

1136
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:06,760
That's kind of thinking, yeah. 
Feeling is the depending what 

1137
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,800
you mean by feeling. 
If you mean emotions, then it is

1138
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:12,360
kind of the emotional aspect of 
experience, Yeah. 

1139
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:16,160
Whether you whether you feel 
good or you feel bad or you're 

1140
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,160
angry and all of these kind of 
things. 

1141
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:23,280
Or it can be like the raw sense 
of whether you dislike or like 

1142
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,640
something, which is more like 
the Buddhist ideal feeling. 

1143
01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:28,320
Yeah, but this too is within the
mind. 

1144
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,800
It's part of the mind. 
It's a content of the mind. 

1145
01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:32,640
It's an aspect of the mind. 
Yeah. 

1146
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:35,840
The mind can be divided into all
of these kind of sub aspects. 

1147
01:01:37,080 --> 01:01:41,200
So the idea on the Buddhist path
then is to steer our emotions 

1148
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:43,760
and feelings in a positive 
direction. 

1149
01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:46,520
You know, to overcome the 
negative emotions and feelings 

1150
01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,160
and steer the mind towards a 
positive emotions and feelings. 

1151
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,680
That is the job of the path. 
It is not to stop having 

1152
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:57,120
emotions and feelings, but to 
develop the right kind of 

1153
01:01:57,120 --> 01:02:00,600
emotions and feelings. 
That is the right approach, the 

1154
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:04,040
way to think about this because 
emotions and feelings are a 

1155
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,320
fundamental aspect of being a 
human being. 

1156
01:02:06,320 --> 01:02:10,360
Yeah, last question from High 
Ton from Perth. 

1157
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:15,440
If there is no free will, are we
still responsible for our coma? 

1158
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:20,120
Whether you are responsible or 
not, you have to deal with the 

1159
01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,200
consequences. 
Yeah, you're still going to be 

1160
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,960
painful. 
If you make bad coma, going to 

1161
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,920
be painful in the future. 
So make sure you make good coma.

1162
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,160
Yeah, this is the conditioning. 
Yeah, happens right now you get 

1163
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:31,840
condition to do good coma. 
Why? 

1164
01:02:31,840 --> 01:02:33,680
Because you know otherwise 
you're going to be in pain. 

1165
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,520
So whether you're responsible or
not is irrelevant. 

1166
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:40,000
What matters is that there is a 
causal link between how you act 

1167
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:42,280
and how you feel. 
That is what matters. 

1168
01:02:44,280 --> 01:02:46,000
OK everyone, thank you very 
much. 

1169
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,560
Let's just pay respect to the 
Buddha, Dama and Sangha.

