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The Noble Eightfold Path Okay, 
so let's continue where we left 

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off yesterday morning. 
We're looking at Right View, the

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first factor of the Noble 
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We have looked at one aspect of 
Right View, which is the higher 

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aspect, the knowledge of the 
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And now we will look at what you
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aspect of Right View, the Right 
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more understandable, because it 
is basically the way the Buddha 

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taught ordinary people before 
you realised the Dhamma in a 

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more personal sense. 
And this little passage is taken

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from a sutta called the Brahmins
of Sala, Madhyamanikaya 41. 

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Hopefully you should find it 
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And it is about Right View. 
MN 41, the Brahmins of Sala. 

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This is quite a nice sutta. 
This particular sutta is about 

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what is known as the Ten Courses
of Wholesome and Ten Courses of 

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Unwholesome Actions. 
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Buddha sets out what is morality
in Buddhism in a very detailed 

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way. 
In ten courses. 

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According to ten factors. 
Three, bodily action. 

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Four, verbal action. 
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And the Right View comes under 
mental action, or mental, if you

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like, virtue or morality. 
So this is from that particular 

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sutta. 
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describes Right View. 
So this person who was acting in

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a moral way, he has Right View. 
There is what is given, and what

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is offered, and what is 
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There is fruit and result of 
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There is this world and the 
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There is mother and father. 
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spontaneously. 
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recluses and Brahmins in the 
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knowledge and declare this world
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So that is right view. 
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The first thing to recognize 
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that it's not really either you 
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wrong view. 
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very flexible idea. 
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something that can change over 
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move in the right direction. 
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mentioned last time, you never 
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the full understanding until you
see the Dhamma for yourself. 

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That is when really right view 
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And in the meantime you have 
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approximate right view or a view
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direction, which is roughly 
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So the idea of understanding 
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about the right view. 
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It's actually to kind of make 
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bit more right, right? 
So you develop this right view. 

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You reflect on these things. 
What do these things actually 

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you understand them, that right 
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established. 
It's more like a continuum of 

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right view. 
It's not like, yes, I believe, 

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yes, rebirth makes sense to me 
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It's more like what are the 
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What does this actually mean for
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What are the effects of rebirth 
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What does this outlook actually 
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about the world and what I 
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So there is this continuum of 
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So please look at it that way. 
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something to be changed. 
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first factor of the Noble 
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if we develop that, if we 
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understand what is going on, 
that will have an impact for the

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rest of the practice. 
Because each factor leads to the

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next one. 
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established right view is, the 
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practicing the rest of the Noble
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So for that reason, I want to 
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to get some more detailed 
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So let's have a quick look at 
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will go into the details. 
So you have right view, right? 

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Undistorted vision. 
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right view is the view which 
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This is how the world actually 
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It's not just a dogma. 
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This is what I tell you. 
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It is actually in accordance 
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reality. 
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that accords with reality, of 
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problematic for you. 
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looking at the world in a 
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to be able to act upon reality. 
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a fantasy. 
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scientific progress. 
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the world. 
You start to be able to use your

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understanding to create devices,
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that understanding in a way 
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around you. 
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according to scientific 
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exert that control over nature. 
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right view, then you can 
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that it leads to your happiness,
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just like in science. 
It is essential to be able to do

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things which are to your 
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Otherwise, you won't be able to 
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for yourself and for other 
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matter. 
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So the content of this right 
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Just skip the first one, go to 
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There is fruit and result of 
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So this is basically about what 
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or the laws of kamma. 
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and it's not just whatever you 
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Intention is a crucial aspect of
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And intention can be varied. 
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But what you do intentionally 
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And importantly, it is often 
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here. 
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the other world. 
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that life does not come to an 
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But there is another world 
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There is a continuity after this
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This is the idea of rebirth that
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The idea that there is rebirth 
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It is not just limited to human 
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It is bad enough to be reborn in
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of the world. 
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this idea. 
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find this idea of rebirth in 
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They find it hard to, at least 
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is hard to make sense of that. 
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which makes it quite easy to 
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within the human realm there is 
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certain span of experience that 
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simple circumstances, 
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difficult life, to the kind of 
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in a wealthy life, and then you 
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circumstances. 
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of happiness and suffering that 
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they really do is they increase 
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suffering. 
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really. 
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You experience more happiness, 
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things that you can experience 
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things, you experience more of 
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A lower realm, again, is not 
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really, except that you 
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Apart from that, it is just you,
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helpful way of understanding 
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So this is part of the Buddhist 
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This is how the Buddha says the 
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So what about these other things
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There is what is given, what is 
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context of kamma and rebirth 
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is in that context that this 
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right view here is basically 
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personal path, it has results. 
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So giving is an important thing 
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separate factor of right view. 
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is good and bad actions, it 
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such a thing as giving, as 
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This ability to be helpful, to 
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yourself in whatever way it is. 
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support, but it can mean any 
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you are giving of yourself in 
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It is fascinating, isn't it, 
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out in this way. 
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in the suttas a similar kind of 
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generosity. 
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foundation stone, the basic 
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So because of that, because it 
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that in mind, remember that. 
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and something that really 
everybody should develop in the 

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spiritual practice as much as 
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kind in this way. 
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when I come here to teach a 
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I try to regard it as an act of 
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I don't really expect anything 
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I just do it because I 
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good results, right? 
It will be of benefit to both 

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myself and also to other people 
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So this is how important it is 
that it actually is singled out 

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as a separate factor of right 
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And then you have, just further 
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there is this world, there is 
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another one which is 
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Which is a similar kind of idea.
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father. 
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father. 
So again, when you read that, it

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kind of doesn't really stand 
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It doesn't really mean, it 
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But again, because the context, 
the context here is about kamma,

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is about the first factor of the
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They have a very powerful 
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practice, in terms of insight 
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relationship that we have with 
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factors that we have to factor 
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on. 
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different relationships with 
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always do something, right? 
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perfect, but we can always do 
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this is mentioned like this, in 
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And it fits with what you see in
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parents, right? 
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strong. 
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here at the very beginning of 
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Okay. 
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which I think is, I'm not 
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in Right View. 
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is, in the Chinese, parallel to 
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parallel to this sutta in other 
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to this sutta in other 
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And this is the only one. 
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other languages. 
That is the only factor of Right

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So this might be, it's possible 
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it isn't found in other places. 
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means is again this idea that 
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rebirth, we are expanding the 
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suffering here. 
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like in the human realm or the 
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call maybe a mind-made body and 
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Buddhism, then that spontaneous 
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suffering here. 
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And then we have the last one. 
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recluses and Brahmins in the 
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realized by direct knowledge and
declare this world and the other

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world. 
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to the idea that there are 
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practiced more, who have a more 
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what we have. 
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there are beings like the Buddha
perhaps, there are other people 

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profoundly. 
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is the case, this is true. 
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the Buddhist path and practice, 
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Confidence in the Buddha's 
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Confidence that there are areas 
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have penetrated the same truth 
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penetrated a long time ago. 
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is foundational. 
Without that, you can't even get

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started on the Buddhist path. 
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maybe we should look at that one
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The translation here is not all 
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It says good and virtuous. 
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should be recluses and Brahmins 
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have achieved good results would
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translating that. 
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enough. 
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the other world. 
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this is the case, right? 
They have direct insight into 

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these things. 
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here. 
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It's not just a random thing. 

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There is a basis for this. 
So remember what I was saying 

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before. 
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establish this right view, 
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To develop it, to bring it 
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So how do we develop this last 
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That there are these people in 
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more than perhaps we have. 
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And of course the first thing is
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case, right? 
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sense. 
Why shouldn't there be people in

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It's just like anything else. 
If you want to learn about 

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medicine, if you want to learn 
about law, you go to university 

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and you learn from somebody who 
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It is ridiculous to think that 
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spiritual path. 
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be perhaps quite as obvious as 
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is the same thing, right? 
There are people who have been 

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practising these things and it 
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contemplating, getting into deep
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this is the case, it also leads 
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There is somebody you can learn 
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Buddha himself, this is what the
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He started out and he looked 
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can I learn from? 
Who is there in this world who 

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has some kind of spiritual 
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life that I can actually learn 
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So he went out and he learned 
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suttas as the teachers of the 
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There's a fellow called Alara 
Kalama who obviously had very 

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good meditation. 
Another person called Uddaka 

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Ramaputa and they are mentioned 
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And there seems to also be other
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from in those days. 
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spiritual kind of genius, right,
of our age, who started this 

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whole path of Buddhism, even he 
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So it makes sense to have a 
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If you have a teacher, at least 
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the right direction. 
You can see what they have to 

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say and they can, you know, you 
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Usually you make much quicker 
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who can teach you, who knows 
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rather than having to try to 
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So this is like the first 
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feeling for this, is to read a 
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right? 
To see if it makes any sense to 

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you. 
I recommended a book to someone 

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here the other day called In the
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And this is a translation. 
This is an anthology of suttas 

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translated by Venerable Bhikkhu 
Bodhi. 

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And it is a very nice 
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nicely grouped according to 
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according to themes. 
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Venerable Bhikkhu Bodhi, who is 
obviously very knowledgeable 

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about the suttas, and nice notes
at the end to explain what is 

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going on. 
Probably one of the best books 

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available to get you kind of 
access, get you started with 

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reading the suttas. 
And you will find, as with so 

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many things, sometimes you come 
across passages that are very 

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meaningful to you, very powerful
to you. 

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And that will be very useful. 
Then you will read about the 

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life of the Buddha, right? 
How did he live? 

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How did he exist? 
And you start to get a sense of 

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relationship with this person 
who lived two and a half 

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thousand years ago. 
Was he as wonderful as people 

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make it out sometimes? 
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you get the feeling for this, 
you get this, either you will be

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attracted towards the Buddhist 
teachings because this makes 

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sense to you, or you will feel 
that it is not right, or maybe 

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it isn't for you. 
And either way is okay. 

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But it is important that you 
have the information. 

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This is what Buddhism is about. 
And then at least you can make a

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decision, right? 
Is it right? 

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Is it wrong? 
Should I do this? 

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Shouldn't I? 
And then this is how you then 

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gradually gain confidence in the
Buddha, or possibly you lose 

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confidence. 
But either way, you have to 

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build it up in this way 
regardless. 

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This is the first one. 
So please read the suttas. 

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Please have a look at this. 
You don't have to read all that 

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much. 
Sometimes it is about reading 

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those things that inspire you, 
right? 

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Sometimes if you read 
everything, it might get too 

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much or too confusing and you 
think about too many things at 

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the same time. 
Sometimes take maybe one or two 

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suttas that really work for you.
And one of the suttas that I 

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think is very powerful and I 
think would be generally useful 

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to most people is this 
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looking at right now, 
Madhyamanikaya 41. 

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Because it talks about ethics in
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And when you read that sutta, it
gives you a very broad outline 

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of ethics in Buddhism. 
And ethics, of course, is the 

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foundation stone. 
I've been talking about this all

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the way through now, how 
important it is to get your 

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conduct right, to get your 
habits, your personality, to get

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that kind of aligned with the 
Dhamma in the right way. 

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Then the meditation happens by 
itself. 

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And this sutta is specifically 
about that, about ethics. 

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So I think it's very useful. 
Sometimes it's good to 

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concentrate on certain themes, 
right? 

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You don't get too much stuff, 
too much information, which kind

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of just is floating around and 
you can't really... 

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This becomes too much to think 
about really sometimes. 

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So this is the first thing. 
Read suttas and do it in a wise 

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way. 
Get an overall picture and then 

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focus on a few things which are 
powerful for your practice. 

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And of course the other thing 
which is powerful, powerful to 

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get a sense of the essence and 
get a feeling for this, is just 

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sometimes to... 
You know, you have certain 

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teachers who you feel you have a
certain amount of confidence in 

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because they embody the values 
of Buddhism, they embody the 

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qualities that you're supposed 
to achieve by practising this 

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path. 
So sometimes there will be 

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people in the world who think, 
wow, this person really has 

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these qualities. 
And then you can... 

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When you see that, it gives you 
more confidence as well. 

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And I have no doubt myself that 
there are people today in this 

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world who embody these qualities
of Buddhism and who have 

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practised this path in such a 
way that they have achieved some

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of these results, right? 
And that gives you a sense of it

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works. 
Not just an ancient teaching on 

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paper, it actually still has an 
effect in the present day. 

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And the third way which is you 
start to see this path as well 

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is when you practise it yourself
and you get some of the results,

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right? 
You see that meditation actually

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works. 
You see that ethical conduct 

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actually works. 
And when you do that and you 

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00:26:21,156 --> 00:26:25,144
start to kind of extrapolate 
that into the future, where does

458
00:26:25,144 --> 00:26:27,667
this lead? 
If I continue practising this 

459
00:26:27,667 --> 00:26:30,000
way, what can it actually give 
rise to? 

460
00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,430
You start to understand that 
there is a lot of potential in 

461
00:26:33,430 --> 00:26:36,310
this path and you start to get 
the feeling that indeed there 

462
00:26:36,310 --> 00:26:39,772
might be people who actually 
have seen these things in a very

463
00:26:39,772 --> 00:26:44,000
profound and deep sense. 
So this is what this is about. 

464
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:47,078
So it's important to have that. 
And when you have the sense that

465
00:26:47,078 --> 00:26:51,334
there are beings in the world, 
in particular the Buddha, who 

466
00:26:51,334 --> 00:26:54,715
has seen these things, right? 
Seen this world, seen the other 

467
00:26:54,715 --> 00:26:58,000
world, then what happens at that
point? 

468
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:02,000
What happens at that point is 
that you have a Kalyana Mita. 

469
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:06,546
This Pali word, Kalyana Mita, 
which basically means a good 

470
00:27:06,546 --> 00:27:09,730
friend. 
And the primary good friend in 

471
00:27:09,730 --> 00:27:14,000
the world is the Buddha. 
The Buddha precisely because he 

472
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,669
has seen, he has understood. 
And because he is sometimes 

473
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:20,000
called the eye of the world, 
right? 

474
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,911
He has seen. 
And because he has seen, he is 

475
00:27:22,911 --> 00:27:25,750
able to teach you. 
And that kind of opens your eyes

476
00:27:25,750 --> 00:27:28,715
a little bit as well. 
Because he is then pointing the 

477
00:27:28,715 --> 00:27:31,250
way. 
While we are fumbling around in 

478
00:27:31,250 --> 00:27:34,670
the darkness, it's nice to have 
somebody with a torch who can 

479
00:27:34,670 --> 00:27:37,430
actually show you the way. 
And that's basically what the 

480
00:27:37,430 --> 00:27:39,144
Buddha is. 
He's got the torch. 

481
00:27:39,144 --> 00:27:41,600
He can see. 
So you kind of take his hand, so

482
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:45,000
to speak, and he will lead you 
in the right direction. 

483
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,000
So this is what this next Sutta 
is all about. 

484
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:53,000
The next Sutta is called Half 
the Holy Life. 

485
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:59,275
And this is about the Kalyana 
Mita and the importance and the 

486
00:27:59,275 --> 00:28:04,858
significance of having this good
friend who guides you in the 

487
00:28:04,858 --> 00:28:10,000
right direction. 
So this is how this Sutta goes. 

488
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,667
Thus have I heard, on one 
occasion the Blessed One was 

489
00:28:13,667 --> 00:28:18,001
dwelling among the Sakhyans, 
Sakhyans was a clan where the 

490
00:28:18,001 --> 00:28:23,500
Buddha was from, where there was
a town of the Sakhyans named 

491
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:28,500
Nagaraka. 
Then the Venerable Ananda 

492
00:28:28,500 --> 00:28:31,335
approached the Blessed One. 
Having approached, he paid 

493
00:28:31,335 --> 00:28:35,667
homage to the Blessed One, sat 
down to one side and said to 

494
00:28:35,667 --> 00:28:40,000
him, Venerable Sir, this is half
of the Holy Life. 

495
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:46,000
That is good friendship, good 
companionship, good comradeship.

496
00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:51,572
Not so, Ananda, not so. 
This is the entire Holy Life, 

497
00:28:51,572 --> 00:28:54,500
Ananda. 
That is good friendship, good 

498
00:28:54,500 --> 00:28:58,800
companionship, good comradeship.
When a bhikkhu has a good 

499
00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,668
friend, a good companion, a good
comrade, it is to be expected 

500
00:29:02,668 --> 00:29:08,167
that he will develop and 
cultivate the Noble Eightfold 

501
00:29:08,167 --> 00:29:12,000
Path. 
So I'll just stop there. 

502
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,000
So this is about good 
friendship. 

503
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,000
It's interesting here, good 
friendship, good companionship, 

504
00:29:17,000 --> 00:29:20,869
good comradeship, right? 
It sounds like some kind of term

505
00:29:20,869 --> 00:29:23,000
from the Soviet Union or 
something like that. 

506
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,286
I think Bhikkhu Bodhi was trying
to find another word which kind 

507
00:29:30,286 --> 00:29:32,274
of sounds like friend, right? 
So comrade was the only thing he

508
00:29:32,274 --> 00:29:36,000
could come up with. 
That's why it has it in there. 

509
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,000
It has nothing to do with 
communism or anything like that.

510
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,000
So this is interesting, isn't 
it? 

511
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:51,000
Ananda says that this is half of
the Holy Life, this idea of good

512
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,365
spiritual friendship. 
In other words, he understands 

513
00:29:53,365 --> 00:29:55,000
that this is really important, 
right? 

514
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,500
It obviously matters a lot. 
And then the Buddha says, no, 

515
00:29:58,500 --> 00:30:03,000
it's not half the Holy Life, 
it's the entire Holy Life. 

516
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,750
And when you read that, you 
think, is the Buddha being 

517
00:30:05,750 --> 00:30:07,667
serious? 
Is he talking kind of 

518
00:30:07,667 --> 00:30:09,502
metaphorically? 
Is he talking like, well, is he 

519
00:30:09,502 --> 00:30:11,000
trying to say it's really, 
really important? 

520
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,000
Surely it doesn't mean that it 
is the entire Holy Life. 

521
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:17,000
How can it be the entire Holy 
Life? 

522
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:19,000
And I used to think like that 
too. 

523
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,060
I used to think, you know, you 
read these things and you kind 

524
00:30:22,060 --> 00:30:25,000
of skip over it, and then one 
day you think, wait a minute, 

525
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,000
he's actually saying it is the 
entire Holy Life. 

526
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,638
What does that mean? 
And of course the Buddha, he 

527
00:30:30,638 --> 00:30:33,500
doesn't usually mince his words.
He doesn't mess around when he 

528
00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:36,548
says things. 
You can be pretty sure it has 

529
00:30:36,548 --> 00:30:39,600
some significant meaning, right?
So when he says it is the entire

530
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:44,168
Holy Life, it probably means 
that it is just that, the entire

531
00:30:44,168 --> 00:30:47,000
Holy Life. 
So how can that be the case? 

532
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,400
And to understand that, and this
is the, again, this Buddhist 

533
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,500
idea of non-self, right? 
Because there is, because from 

534
00:30:54,500 --> 00:30:58,250
the Buddhist point of view, 
there is no entity inside which 

535
00:30:58,250 --> 00:31:02,336
is permanent, it means that we 
have no kind of guidance inside 

536
00:31:02,336 --> 00:31:06,820
of us which steers us on the 
path, like a compass which is 

537
00:31:06,820 --> 00:31:09,000
always pointing in the right 
direction. 

538
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,000
We haven't got that. 
There is no compass there. 

539
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:15,386
There is nothing there which 
kind of is solid, which always 

540
00:31:15,386 --> 00:31:18,750
is reliable, always going to do 
what is right and avoid what is 

541
00:31:18,750 --> 00:31:20,911
wrong. 
We don't have, there is no such 

542
00:31:20,911 --> 00:31:23,169
thing inside of you. 
So, you know, the symbol that I 

543
00:31:23,169 --> 00:31:27,000
like to use is like, we are in a
sense like a ship on the ocean, 

544
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,643
a ship which has no engine, 
which has no sails, which has no

545
00:31:31,643 --> 00:31:35,145
rudder, so you can't steer, you 
can't kind of go this direction 

546
00:31:35,145 --> 00:31:37,750
or that direction. 
Now a ship which has no steering

547
00:31:37,750 --> 00:31:40,000
mechanism, what happens to that 
ship? 

548
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,300
What happens to it is that it 
will drift whichever way, either

549
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:48,000
the currents or the wind will 
take it, right? 

550
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,734
So if the wind comes from the 
north, the ship will go to the 

551
00:31:51,734 --> 00:31:53,750
south. 
If the wind comes from the west,

552
00:31:53,750 --> 00:31:56,000
the ship will go to the east, 
etc., etc. 

553
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,000
It will drift according to the 
prevailing conditions, right? 

554
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:05,224
And in a sense, in a very real 
sense, we are a bit like 

555
00:32:05,224 --> 00:32:09,000
rudderless ships in samsara. 
We are rudderless people. 

556
00:32:09,000 --> 00:32:11,000
We have no real steering 
mechanism. 

557
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:14,440
There is nothing inside of us 
which naturally points us in 

558
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,000
this direction or that 
direction. 

559
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,637
We are rudderless and we drift 
according to the prevailing 

560
00:32:19,637 --> 00:32:21,667
conditions. 
And what are those prevailing 

561
00:32:21,667 --> 00:32:23,669
conditions? 
They are all the conditioning 

562
00:32:23,669 --> 00:32:27,602
that has affected us in this 
life and is affecting us now and

563
00:32:27,602 --> 00:32:31,200
has affected us from a Buddhist 
point of view also in past 

564
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:35,000
lives, right? 
All the conditioning, all the, 

565
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,000
like conditioning is both 
internal, and external. 

566
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,600
So the conditioning from past 
lives is now mostly 

567
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,669
internalized. 
Originally it came from outside,

568
00:32:44,669 --> 00:32:47,000
but now it comes from the 
inside. 

569
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:51,144
It is the kind of the habits you
have, the way that you have 

570
00:32:51,144 --> 00:32:55,924
built up, the sense of identity 
that you have, all of these 

571
00:32:55,924 --> 00:32:59,000
internal things that are driving
you in a certain way. 

572
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:00,834
And then there is all the 
external things in this life, 

573
00:33:00,834 --> 00:33:03,000
right? 
Your upbringing, your schooling,

574
00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:07,600
your parents, your friends, all 
of these things, your work, 

575
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,728
everything in this life that you
have experienced, every single 

576
00:33:10,728 --> 00:33:14,000
experience will have conditioned
you in a certain way. 

577
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:17,000
And that is what we are. 
We are that conditioning. 

578
00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:20,386
We are a sum of all the 
environment, all the things 

579
00:33:20,386 --> 00:33:22,500
around us. 
That is essentially what we have

580
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:25,430
become and what we are now. 
And then there are new 

581
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:28,728
conditions coming and they will 
then affect us in a certain way,

582
00:33:28,728 --> 00:33:30,430
right? 
And once you understand that, 

583
00:33:30,430 --> 00:33:34,000
that we are just a sum of the 
conditioning, then of course the

584
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,375
only way that you are going to 
get on the spiritual path, there

585
00:33:37,375 --> 00:33:42,500
has to be some kind of spark. 
Something has to trigger that 

586
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:45,000
movement onto the spiritual 
path. 

587
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,000
And that trigger is then the 
Kalyanamitta. 

588
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,456
That is the person who says, the
eye of the world, I have seen, I

589
00:33:53,456 --> 00:33:56,000
have understood, I have realized
these things. 

590
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,400
Listen, right? 
And then you look at this person

591
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:01,000
and you say, should I listen or 
should I not listen? 

592
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,668
This is part of our job as a 
spiritual practitioner, is to 

593
00:34:05,668 --> 00:34:09,464
look at those people who are 
teachers and ask us whether they

594
00:34:09,464 --> 00:34:14,000
are worthy of being followed. 
Do they have the qualities that 

595
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:17,772
they are, do they have those 
qualities in their conduct that 

596
00:34:17,772 --> 00:34:21,184
they are talking about? 
Do they have a sense of metta, a

597
00:34:21,184 --> 00:34:24,000
sense of compassion, a sense of 
kindness, right? 

598
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,750
Do they have a lack of these 
defilements they are talking 

599
00:34:26,750 --> 00:34:30,750
about that we should overcome? 
And then this is how you then 

600
00:34:30,750 --> 00:34:33,667
gain confidence in the Buddha. 
And then you have a 

601
00:34:33,667 --> 00:34:35,667
Kalyanamitta. 
You have a good spiritual 

602
00:34:35,667 --> 00:34:37,556
friend. 
You have a light that shines in 

603
00:34:37,556 --> 00:34:40,000
the darkness and shows you the 
way. 

604
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:45,125
And it is absolutely necessary. 
Without that, you can't really 

605
00:34:45,125 --> 00:34:50,500
make the breakthrough. 
So this is what this is all 

606
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:54,335
about. 
And that is why it is 100% of 

607
00:34:54,335 --> 00:34:57,430
the spiritual life, right? 
Because without it, you can't 

608
00:34:57,430 --> 00:35:00,000
get anywhere. 
It is absolutely necessary. 

609
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,000
It is the condition that drives 
you forward. 

610
00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:07,572
And it is based on that, that 
you then practice virtue even 

611
00:35:07,572 --> 00:35:10,000
better, that you practice 
generosity, that you meditate, 

612
00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,500
that you get insight. 
It all ultimately comes from 

613
00:35:13,500 --> 00:35:16,500
that. 
And yesterday you were asking 

614
00:35:16,500 --> 00:35:22,000
about the last saying of the 
Buddha, the apamadheta 

615
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,000
sampadheta, strive on with 
heedfulness. 

616
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,335
And I said that this idea of 
apamadha stands at the very 

617
00:35:29,335 --> 00:35:32,000
foundation of the Buddhist path.
It is one of many things. 

618
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,000
And I couldn't remember so many 
others. 

619
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,000
But one of those is 
kalyanamitta. 

620
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,002
Kalyanamitta is another thing 
which stands as the very 

621
00:35:38,002 --> 00:35:40,000
foundation stone of the Buddhist
path. 

622
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,000
Without that, you can't get 
started. 

623
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:46,000
Apamadha is another one. 
Because you have to be heedful, 

624
00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,800
at the very least you have to be
able to listen to those people, 

625
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,000
right? 
Or to take an interest. 

626
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:54,288
If you are not even interested, 
or you have decided that you 

627
00:35:54,288 --> 00:35:56,600
want to believe in another 
religion or whatever, and you 

628
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,890
have no time for these recluses 
or whatever, there is no chance 

629
00:35:59,890 --> 00:36:03,000
that you will get anywhere. 
So apamadha, yoniso manesikara, 

630
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:08,000
is another one. 
A wise reflection, etc. 

631
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,500
Anyway. 
Okay, so then let's see what 

632
00:36:11,500 --> 00:36:15,500
happens then. 
So, and he says, it is because 

633
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:18,715
of these kalyanamitta that you 
practice the Noble Eightfold 

634
00:36:18,715 --> 00:36:21,625
Path. 
And then, of course, he gives an

635
00:36:21,625 --> 00:36:25,000
exposition of the Noble 
Eightfold Path. 

636
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:29,500
And how, Ananda, does a bhikkhu,
a monk, who has a good friend, a

637
00:36:29,500 --> 00:36:34,000
good companion, a good comrade, 
develop and cultivate the Noble 

638
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,572
Eightfold Path? 
Here, Ananda, a bhikkhu develops

639
00:36:38,572 --> 00:36:43,500
right view, which is based on 
seclusion, dispassion and 

640
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:49,000
cessation, maturing in release. 
He develops right intention, 

641
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:53,000
right speech, right action, 
right livelihood, right effort, 

642
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:58,000
right mindfulness and right 
stillness, which is based upon 

643
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,000
seclusion, dispassion, cessation
and maturing in release. 

644
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,715
It is in this way, Ananda, that 
the bhikkhu, who has good 

645
00:37:05,715 --> 00:37:10,716
friends, good companions, a good
comrade, develops and cultivates

646
00:37:10,716 --> 00:37:17,669
the Noble Eightfold Path. 
So, here, I'm not sure how much 

647
00:37:17,669 --> 00:37:23,144
I should talk about this, 
because these are very, very 

648
00:37:23,144 --> 00:37:26,000
profound aspects of the Noble 
Eightfold Path. 

649
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:30,334
They have this idea that it is 
based upon seclusion, dispassion

650
00:37:30,334 --> 00:37:34,000
and cessation. 
And what this means is that, 

651
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,273
basically, your practice of the 
Noble Eightfold Path, especially

652
00:37:37,273 --> 00:37:40,858
when it comes to the deeper 
aspects of the path, some degree

653
00:37:40,858 --> 00:37:45,000
of seclusion is required, right?
This is why we go on a retreat. 

654
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,750
You are secluding yourself a bit
from society, secluding yourself

655
00:37:48,750 --> 00:37:53,000
from your ordinary chores of 
life, getting a little bit away.

656
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,813
And this is one of the reasons 
why you become a monk or a nun, 

657
00:37:55,813 --> 00:37:58,001
right? 
So you can seclude yourself even

658
00:37:58,001 --> 00:38:00,000
more from society, and you can 
get away from it. 

659
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:05,668
Where I live, at Bodhinyana 
Monastery in Perth, every monk 

660
00:38:05,668 --> 00:38:10,184
has a little hut in the forest. 
And from my hut, when I walk on 

661
00:38:10,184 --> 00:38:13,000
my walking path, I can't see any
other huts. 

662
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,667
So it's like I'm completely, a 
sense of complete seclusion, 

663
00:38:15,667 --> 00:38:18,000
right? 
It's just nature around you. 

664
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,858
And that gives you, after a 
while, it gives you a sense of 

665
00:38:20,858 --> 00:38:22,715
peace. 
It gives you a sense of 

666
00:38:22,715 --> 00:38:24,500
distance. 
And that sense of distance means

667
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:28,500
you have, you know, you feel a 
kind of spaciousness, both 

668
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:32,000
internally and externally. 
And that external seclusion, 

669
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,429
being separated from other 
people around you, then 

670
00:38:35,429 --> 00:38:38,900
eventually leads to the internal
seclusion, where your mind 

671
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:41,000
starts to become separated from 
the world. 

672
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:44,668
And particularly, what it 
becomes separated from is the 

673
00:38:44,668 --> 00:38:48,500
five hindrances of meditation, 
five hindrances that block your 

674
00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:53,000
practice in meditation. 
So seclusion, when it comes to 

675
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,125
meditation practice, means the 
mental seclusion, when the mind 

676
00:38:57,125 --> 00:39:01,750
is free from those hindrances. 
So this is why seclusion is so 

677
00:39:01,750 --> 00:39:05,002
important, because it is based 
on that seclusion that this path

678
00:39:05,002 --> 00:39:07,000
really starts to take off, 
right? 

679
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:12,750
The hindrances disappear, 
because you are away from the 

680
00:39:12,750 --> 00:39:16,667
worldly phenomena, which tend to
give rise to hindrances, rise to

681
00:39:16,667 --> 00:39:19,668
problems, gives rise to desire, 
gives rise to anger, all these 

682
00:39:19,668 --> 00:39:24,335
other kinds of things. 
And then it is based on 

683
00:39:24,335 --> 00:39:28,625
dispersion and cessation. 
And what this means is that you 

684
00:39:28,625 --> 00:39:33,287
are, when you are practicing the
Buddhist path, and you are 

685
00:39:33,287 --> 00:39:36,334
practicing meditation in 
particular, things start to fade

686
00:39:36,334 --> 00:39:38,000
away, right? 
Things start to cease. 

687
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,000
This is what happens in 
meditation practice. 

688
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,000
More and more things fade away, 
they cease. 

689
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,334
Things become simpler and 
simpler in your life, simpler 

690
00:39:46,334 --> 00:39:50,000
and simpler in your mind. 
Things fading away. 

691
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,667
And this is the kind of the 
basis for meditation and for 

692
00:39:54,667 --> 00:39:58,000
insight, is this fading away of 
things. 

693
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,000
And this is how the path kind of
develops. 

694
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:03,667
And you will get a little bit of
experience of that on this 

695
00:40:03,667 --> 00:40:07,250
retreat, just a little bit. 
I mean, this thing goes very, 

696
00:40:07,250 --> 00:40:09,715
very deep. 
This kind of fading away of 

697
00:40:09,715 --> 00:40:14,000
things and ceasing of things is 
a very profound kind of thing, 

698
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:17,200
and it goes deeper and deeper 
and deeper, until eventually, it

699
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:21,000
says here, it matures in 
release. 

700
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:26,000
And release here really is the 
release from craving. 

701
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,000
You don't crave anymore. 
You cease. 

702
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:31,000
You see that all the phenomena 
in the world are impermanent. 

703
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:35,000
You can't control them, right? 
You can't really rely on them. 

704
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:38,000
There is a higher happiness to 
be had beyond these things. 

705
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:42,000
And when you see that, craving 
just disappears all by itself. 

706
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,334
It is eliminated. 
And that is the idea of release 

707
00:40:45,334 --> 00:40:48,000
or liberation on the Buddhist 
path. 

708
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
Anyway, it's getting a bit ahead
of us here. 

709
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,274
We're kind of... 
This is towards the very end of 

710
00:40:54,274 --> 00:40:56,334
the Noble Eightfold Path, and 
we're still just dealing with 

711
00:40:56,334 --> 00:41:00,250
the first factor. 
But anyway, since it's there, I 

712
00:41:00,250 --> 00:41:03,000
thought it might be nice just to
discuss it briefly here. 

713
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:07,000
Okay, then the last part of this
sutta. 

714
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:12,668
By the following method too, 
ānanda, it may be understood how

715
00:41:12,668 --> 00:41:17,000
the entire holy life is good 
friendship, good companionship, 

716
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,625
good comradeship. 
By relying upon me as a good 

717
00:41:21,625 --> 00:41:24,112
friend, here's the Buddha 
speaking, you rely on the Buddha

718
00:41:24,112 --> 00:41:26,000
as a good friend. 
The Buddha is the Kalyanamitta, 

719
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:34,000
ānanda, beings subject to birth 
are freed from birth. 

720
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:38,000
Being subject to old age are 
freed from old age. 

721
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:42,000
Being subject to death are freed
from death. 

722
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,667
Being subject to sorrow, 
lamentation, pain, displeasure 

723
00:41:44,667 --> 00:41:48,000
and despair are freed from 
sorrow, lamentation, pain, 

724
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:52,500
displeasure and despair. 
By this method too, ānanda, it 

725
00:41:52,500 --> 00:41:57,800
may be understood how the entire
holy life is good friendship, 

726
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:02,000
good companionship, good 
comradeship. 

727
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,616
So this is just another way of 
looking at the Noble Eightfold 

728
00:42:06,616 --> 00:42:09,000
Path. 
The Noble Eightfold Path leads 

729
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,430
to the end of suffering. 
So by practicing the Noble 

730
00:42:12,430 --> 00:42:16,400
Eightfold Path and by doing 
that, it leads you, this 

731
00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:19,500
Kalyanamitta leads you 
eventually to the highest 

732
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:23,858
happiness, the ending of all 
problems, and the highest 

733
00:42:23,858 --> 00:42:28,000
happiness that is possible to 
attain in this world. 

734
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,750
Okay, so there you are. 
That is the first, just a very 

735
00:42:31,750 --> 00:42:36,667
little, short little sutta about
what is meant by the idea of 

736
00:42:36,667 --> 00:42:40,668
having confidence that there are
beings in this world who have 

737
00:42:40,668 --> 00:42:44,250
seen something more profound, 
who understand this world, who 

738
00:42:44,250 --> 00:42:47,500
understand the ideas of rebirth 
and kamma, and who ultimately 

739
00:42:47,500 --> 00:42:51,334
understand that there is an 
awakening beyond ordinary 

740
00:42:51,334 --> 00:42:56,000
phenomena, the ordinary world. 
That is what is meant by that. 

741
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,000
So now we have a little bit more
time. 

742
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:02,000
Now I want us to look at the 
next part of this Right View. 

743
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:08,000
And that is the idea of rebirth 
and how the Buddha talks about 

744
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,000
the idea of rebirth in the 
suttas. 

745
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:16,287
And again, this is perhaps a bit
challenging for some people 

746
00:43:16,287 --> 00:43:21,400
because it is quite, in the 
typical Buddha's way, it is 

747
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:23,000
quite direct and quite straight 
to the point. 

748
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,819
And sometimes when we hear 
things directly for the first 

749
00:43:26,819 --> 00:43:30,600
time that we are not used to 
hearing, it can seem quite 

750
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,668
powerful. 
Anyway, let's see what the 

751
00:43:32,668 --> 00:43:36,000
Buddha has to say. 
This is the sutta called Tears, 

752
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:43,890
Sangyutanikaya 15.3. 
I am not sure if the sequence 

753
00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:47,000
you have is maybe slightly 
different from what I have. 

754
00:43:47,000 --> 00:44:06,200
Sangyutanikaya SN 15.3. 
So, At Savatthi, Bhikkhus, this 

755
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,000
samsara is without discoverable 
beginning. 

756
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,500
The first point is not discerned
of beings roaming and wandering 

757
00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:20,000
on, hindered by ignorance and 
fettered by craving. 

758
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,572
What do you think, Bhikkhus, 
which is more, the stream of 

759
00:44:24,572 --> 00:44:29,287
tears that you have shed as you 
have roamed and wandered on 

760
00:44:29,287 --> 00:44:33,144
through this long course, 
weeping and wailing because of 

761
00:44:33,144 --> 00:44:37,429
being united with the 
disagreeable and separated from 

762
00:44:37,429 --> 00:44:43,000
the agreeable, this or the water
of the four great oceans? 

763
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:48,200
As we understand the Dhamma 
taught by the Blessed One, 

764
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,668
Venerable Sir, the stream of 
tears that we have shed, as we 

765
00:44:52,668 --> 00:44:56,668
have roamed and wandered through
this long course, weeping and 

766
00:44:56,668 --> 00:45:00,600
wailing because of being united 
with the disagreeable and 

767
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:05,572
separated from the agreeable, 
this alone is more than the 

768
00:45:05,572 --> 00:45:13,572
water of the four great oceans. 
So that is pretty strong, isn't 

769
00:45:13,572 --> 00:45:18,668
it? 
And there are a number of suttas

770
00:45:18,668 --> 00:45:25,500
like that in this Dhamma. 
In this particular part of the 

771
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:28,715
Buddha's word. 
And there are others which are 

772
00:45:28,715 --> 00:45:31,446
perhaps even more graphic, like 
the amount of blood that you 

773
00:45:31,446 --> 00:45:33,000
have shed and this kind of 
thing. 

774
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:38,001
And the amount of bones that you
have piled up after dying so 

775
00:45:38,001 --> 00:45:41,848
many times, etc. 
But let's have a look at this in

776
00:45:41,848 --> 00:45:44,600
a little bit more detail, 
starting from the beginning 

777
00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:48,000
here. 
So first thing here, Bhikkhus, 

778
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:52,400
this samsara, samsara, is 
without discoverable beginning 

779
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:55,100
here. 
So the word samsara is one of 

780
00:45:55,100 --> 00:45:59,000
these kind of crucial words in 
the Buddhist vocabulary. 

781
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:04,000
And samsara is just a word which
means like the faring on, the 

782
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,334
traveling on. 
And it basically refers to kind 

783
00:46:06,334 --> 00:46:10,000
of the sequence of births and 
deaths going on and on and on. 

784
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,000
This is the meaning of samsara. 
Traveling on, the moving on, 

785
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,334
kind of the endless, restless, 
moving restlessness, moving from

786
00:46:17,334 --> 00:46:22,572
one life to the next life. 
Going back and potentially going

787
00:46:22,572 --> 00:46:26,334
forward indefinitely. 
No clear point of beginning, no 

788
00:46:26,334 --> 00:46:30,000
clear point of ending, right? 
Just moving on. 

789
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:33,715
And once you look at it like 
that, if you look at only one 

790
00:46:33,715 --> 00:46:37,000
life, a single life can seem 
quite purposeful. 

791
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:41,184
You are here to maybe do a good 
job and to kind of help society 

792
00:46:41,184 --> 00:46:44,500
on in the right direction. 
You're here perhaps to bring up 

793
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:46,625
your children, if you have 
children, and to kind of make 

794
00:46:46,625 --> 00:46:49,750
them good people, and to kind of
make them good people, so they 

795
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:52,750
also kind of bring society 
forward and bring humanity 

796
00:46:52,750 --> 00:46:56,000
forward, and animals and 
whatever else. 

797
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:00,400
And in this sense, in a single 
life, life can seem quite 

798
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,750
meaningful. 
But when you start to look at 

799
00:47:02,750 --> 00:47:07,002
life in the broader context of 
life after life, of doing the 

800
00:47:07,002 --> 00:47:09,000
same thing again and again, 
right? 

801
00:47:09,000 --> 00:47:11,000
In one life you have done all 
these things. 

802
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:14,334
You had your education, you had 
your job, you have been bringing

803
00:47:14,334 --> 00:47:17,000
up children, you've been trying 
to do good in the world. 

804
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,250
And then you die, and then you 
get reborn, and then you try to 

805
00:47:20,250 --> 00:47:22,000
do exactly the same thing again,
right? 

806
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,715
It's almost as if you've 
forgotten that you did it in the

807
00:47:25,715 --> 00:47:28,000
past, and now you're doing it 
again. 

808
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,400
And you're not aware of that. 
And then you do it again and 

809
00:47:31,400 --> 00:47:33,000
again and again and again and 
again, right? 

810
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,000
The same thing. 
And after a while you wonder, 

811
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:39,000
what is the point of all this? 
It seems so pointless. 

812
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,000
And is it really getting 
somewhere? 

813
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,000
But sometimes it's getting 
somewhere, sometimes it's not. 

814
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,800
Sometimes you are helping 
society, sometimes you're 

815
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,400
dragging it down. 
Sometimes, you know, the world 

816
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:50,092
is kind of going in the right 
direction, other times the world

817
00:47:50,092 --> 00:47:52,000
might be going in the wrong 
direction. 

818
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,778
So the whole thing, when you 
look at it in the bigger 

819
00:47:54,778 --> 00:47:57,000
picture, it doesn't make so much
sense anymore. 

820
00:47:57,000 --> 00:48:00,334
There isn't that sense of 
progress, there isn't that sense

821
00:48:00,334 --> 00:48:03,500
of meaning. 
And life becomes kind of, sort 

822
00:48:03,500 --> 00:48:08,000
of, pointless in a sense, right?
It's a terrible thing to say, 

823
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:11,600
but it kind of seems pointless. 
You are here, you know, the 

824
00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,000
ordinary life, the ordinary 
world. 

825
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,715
And that is why, I have to 
admit, that's one of the reasons

826
00:48:15,715 --> 00:48:18,556
why I am here today. 
I am still a monk after all 

827
00:48:18,556 --> 00:48:20,600
these years. 
One reason is because I feel 

828
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,430
that there is a kind of general 
progress in my practice all the 

829
00:48:24,430 --> 00:48:27,000
way through, and that makes it 
very meaningful. 

830
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:30,500
But the other thing to me, I 
can't really see anything all 

831
00:48:30,500 --> 00:48:33,000
that meaningful to spend my life
doing. 

832
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:37,223
Sure, you know, you can do good 
in the world and all that, and 

833
00:48:37,223 --> 00:48:39,000
of course that is what we should
do. 

834
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:42,400
But without that bigger 
spiritual picture, without the 

835
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:46,500
kind of the, some kind of bigger
picture to frame it all into, to

836
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:50,750
make it meaningful, it is 
actually, to me, it seems quite 

837
00:48:50,750 --> 00:48:55,001
pointless, the whole thing. 
And this is, again, one of the 

838
00:48:55,001 --> 00:48:58,000
ideas about samsara, about this 
idea of rebirth. 

839
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Once you start to understand 
what it actually means, once you

840
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:05,500
start to understand that you 
have done this, right, it seems 

841
00:49:05,500 --> 00:49:07,000
so important, I've got to get my
education. 

842
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,000
So you strive at university and 
you get that education. 

843
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:13,112
It seems so important until you 
realize that you have done this 

844
00:49:13,112 --> 00:49:14,834
a million times before. 
And it doesn't seem so 

845
00:49:14,834 --> 00:49:16,500
important. 
And it doesn't seem so important

846
00:49:16,500 --> 00:49:19,000
anymore, right? 
I've got to get that degree. 

847
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,000
Suddenly you have had a million 
degrees before. 

848
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,000
It hasn't really gotten you 
anywhere. 

849
00:49:23,000 --> 00:49:26,000
The kind of, okay, you know, so 
what? 

850
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,778
Right? 
And this is the kind of the big 

851
00:49:28,778 --> 00:49:31,625
picture. 
And this is why the big picture 

852
00:49:31,625 --> 00:49:33,875
matters. 
And it changes your perspective 

853
00:49:33,875 --> 00:49:38,000
on this life and what actually 
is important in this life. 

854
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:42,000
And it turns you into a very new
and different direction. 

855
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,000
So I'm not saying this to make 
you depressed or anything. 

856
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:51,335
I'm just saying it because it 
kind of opens up a new way of 

857
00:49:51,335 --> 00:49:54,668
looking at the world, right? 
Some of the, what is the amazing

858
00:49:54,668 --> 00:49:56,546
thing is some of the happiest 
people I know, there are these 

859
00:49:56,546 --> 00:49:58,000
people who say exactly these 
kind of things. 

860
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:01,143
Life is just pointless. 
And then they, ha, ha, ha, laugh

861
00:50:01,143 --> 00:50:07,200
and have a good time, right? 
And this is, so this is not 

862
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,556
anything to make you sad about. 
It's just to turn you in the 

863
00:50:10,556 --> 00:50:13,000
right direction and to think 
about life in a new way. 

864
00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:16,000
So, and this is the second thing
here. 

865
00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:19,000
Samsara, it is without 
discoverable beginning. 

866
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:21,000
And this is also quite 
interesting. 

867
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,250
This is the way the, when the 
Buddha talks about things, he 

868
00:50:25,250 --> 00:50:28,500
doesn't talk about things in 
what you, what is often called 

869
00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:31,875
like a metaphysical way. 
The word metaphysical means like

870
00:50:31,875 --> 00:50:37,668
in a theoretical or doctrinal 
way without any basis in 

871
00:50:37,668 --> 00:50:40,430
experience, right? 
That's what I mean by 

872
00:50:40,430 --> 00:50:43,000
metaphysics here. 
There's no basis in experience. 

873
00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:47,000
It's just an un-experienced, 
idea or a theory. 

874
00:50:47,000 --> 00:50:49,750
So if the Buddha had said that 
samsara doesn't have any 

875
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:53,000
beginning, that would have been 
like theoretical. 

876
00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,000
It's something you can actually 
never know. 

877
00:50:55,000 --> 00:50:58,000
You cannot know whether 
something has beginning or not 

878
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,000
because you can always go back 
further in time. 

879
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:03,500
But what he says, it has no 
discoverable beginning, which is

880
00:51:03,500 --> 00:51:07,000
very different because that is 
based on your own experience. 

881
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,000
You know you can go back in 
time, right? 

882
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,000
And this is what the Buddha 
claimed to have done. 

883
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,000
He goes back in time, life 
before life before life, right? 

884
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,000
And there is no beginning. 
It just goes on. 

885
00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:20,000
And of course one of the 
interesting things the Buddha 

886
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:24,336
saw when he did that, he saw 
also that the world goes through

887
00:51:24,336 --> 00:51:27,800
cycles as well, right? 
He talks about the world going 

888
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:31,184
through these enormous cycles, a
bit like perhaps the big bang in

889
00:51:31,184 --> 00:51:35,079
the present day and then a kind 
of a big crunch kind of 

890
00:51:35,079 --> 00:51:37,668
following after it. 
So he saw, and then because he 

891
00:51:37,668 --> 00:51:40,715
saw this, he says, well, you 
know, no matter how far back I 

892
00:51:40,715 --> 00:51:44,200
go, no matter how many big bangs
I see, no matter how many 

893
00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:46,750
millions of life I look 
backwards, there is no 

894
00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:48,820
beginning. 
It just goes further back, 

895
00:51:48,820 --> 00:51:51,000
further back, further back, 
further back. 

896
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,000
There is no discoverable 
beginning. 

897
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:57,000
And it shows you the Buddha's 
very pragmatic way, right? 

898
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:01,500
He talks about what he knows. 
He doesn't just give empty 

899
00:52:01,500 --> 00:52:03,667
doctrines. 
And this is throughout the 

900
00:52:03,667 --> 00:52:05,667
suttas. 
It's always about what is 

901
00:52:05,667 --> 00:52:08,000
knowable from the Buddha's point
of view. 

902
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:12,000
And this is the thing about, you
know, rebirth and life in 

903
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,000
different realms, and all this 
kind of stuff. 

904
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,858
It is, the Buddha says 
specifically, I'm teaching this 

905
00:52:17,858 --> 00:52:22,000
because I know it, not because 
I've heard it from somebody else

906
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:25,000
or it is some kind of theory or 
whatever. 

907
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,500
So this again is a very 
important part of the Buddha's 

908
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:31,000
teachings. 
It is experiential. 

909
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,001
It is knowable. 
And then he says, a first point 

910
00:52:36,001 --> 00:52:41,000
is not discerned of beings 
roaming and wandering on, 

911
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,000
hindered by ignorance, fettered 
by craving, right? 

912
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:48,500
There is no first point again. 
You can't find a beginning to 

913
00:52:48,500 --> 00:52:50,715
all this. 
Buddhism is one of those few 

914
00:52:50,715 --> 00:52:53,000
religions where there is no 
beginning. 

915
00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:55,000
There is no point at which the 
world was created. 

916
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:59,000
It just goes back. 
And I find that quite a nice way

917
00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,001
of looking at things. 
It's certainly a way that makes 

918
00:53:02,001 --> 00:53:06,334
sense to me. 
Of beings hindered by ignorance,

919
00:53:06,334 --> 00:53:09,000
right? 
You are in the darkness. 

920
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:11,000
You are ignorant. 
You can't see. 

921
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,500
You are deluded. 
You don't understand the way the

922
00:53:13,500 --> 00:53:15,715
world is. 
And because you are in the 

923
00:53:15,715 --> 00:53:19,572
darkness, you keep on wandering,
wandering, wandering, not really

924
00:53:19,572 --> 00:53:22,750
knowing what you are doing, 
going from one life to the next 

925
00:53:22,750 --> 00:53:26,000
one, not understanding that it 
is all just suffering. 

926
00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,500
You are suffering in this life, 
suffering in the next one, now 

927
00:53:29,500 --> 00:53:32,430
here, now there. 
You don't really know what's 

928
00:53:32,430 --> 00:53:34,334
going on. 
You have this narrow little view

929
00:53:34,334 --> 00:53:37,000
of this life. 
You don't see the big picture. 

930
00:53:37,000 --> 00:53:42,000
And for that reason, you are 
kind of just wandering on in 

931
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:44,667
darkness. 
So you are hindered by 

932
00:53:44,667 --> 00:53:47,000
ignorance. 
You can't see because it's dark.

933
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,000
And you are fettered by craving.
Craving is what binds you. 

934
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
That's why you are fettered by 
craving. 

935
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,750
It binds you to rebirth. 
It binds you to the round of 

936
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:58,500
existence. 
You get reborn because of 

937
00:53:58,500 --> 00:54:01,000
craving. 
Craving is the driving force 

938
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:04,000
that takes you from one life to 
the next one. 

939
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:08,334
So you are fettered by craving. 
It binds you to the round, and 

940
00:54:08,334 --> 00:54:11,430
you are hindered by ignorance. 
And of course, ignorance and 

941
00:54:11,430 --> 00:54:15,000
craving, again, are mutually 
conditioned by each other. 

942
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:17,000
You crave precisely because you 
are ignorant. 

943
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:20,000
They are also bound to each 
other. 

944
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,858
There's a nice little thing, 
that one there, this idea of 

945
00:54:22,858 --> 00:54:26,000
being hindered by ignorance and 
fettered by craving. 

946
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:31,000
A powerful little understanding.
It's actually a very broad thing

947
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:34,334
right there. 
It tells you a lot about the 

948
00:54:34,334 --> 00:54:36,000
Buddhist outlook and the 
Buddhist worldview. 

949
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:42,250
Just those few little words. 
And then, he goes on to say what

950
00:54:42,250 --> 00:54:44,000
this means. 
What does it mean? 

951
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,000
What actually is it that we are 
missing? 

952
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:49,000
And one of the things that we 
don't see is precisely this, 

953
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:54,250
that we have cried more tears 
than there are waters in the 

954
00:54:54,250 --> 00:54:57,000
four oceans. 
The four oceans in those days 

955
00:54:57,000 --> 00:55:00,750
were the oceans around India. 
So it was a little bit more 

956
00:55:00,750 --> 00:55:05,000
limited than the kind of world 
oceans as we know them now. 

957
00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,000
But it's roughly the same. 
It's lots and lots of water. 

958
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:11,000
It doesn't really matter exactly
how much it is. 

959
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:16,400
And this is the problem. 
We don't understand the scope of

960
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:21,667
suffering in this world. 
And then the Buddha says, Good, 

961
00:55:21,667 --> 00:55:27,000
good bhikkhus. 
It is good that you understand 

962
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:30,000
the Dhamma taught by me in such 
a way. 

963
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:33,600
The stream of tears that you 
have shed as you roamed and 

964
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:37,000
wandered through this long 
course, weeping and wailing, 

965
00:55:37,000 --> 00:55:41,200
because of being united with the
disagreeable and separated from 

966
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:46,500
the agreeable, this alone is 
more than the water in the four 

967
00:55:46,500 --> 00:55:49,334
oceans. 
For a long time bhikkhus, you 

968
00:55:49,334 --> 00:55:52,000
have experienced the death of a 
mother. 

969
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:55,750
As you experience this, weeping 
and wailing, because of being 

970
00:55:55,750 --> 00:55:59,000
united with the disagreeable and
separated from the agreeable, 

971
00:55:59,000 --> 00:56:03,600
the stream of tears that you 
have shed is more than the 

972
00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:08,334
waters in the four great oceans.
For a long time bhikkhus, you 

973
00:56:08,334 --> 00:56:12,000
have experienced the death of a 
father, the death of a brother, 

974
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:16,600
the death of a sister, the death
of a son, the death of a 

975
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:21,500
daughter, the loss of relatives,
the loss of wealth, the loss of 

976
00:56:21,500 --> 00:56:24,000
illness. 
As you have experienced this, 

977
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,667
weeping and wailing, because of 
being united with the 

978
00:56:27,667 --> 00:56:31,125
disagreeable and separated from 
the agreeable, the streams of 

979
00:56:31,125 --> 00:56:36,600
tears that you have shed is more
than the water in the four great

980
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,000
oceans. 
For what reason? 

981
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:44,000
Because bhikkhus, the samsara is
without discoverable beginning. 

982
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,667
The first point is not discerned
of beings roaming and wandering 

983
00:56:47,667 --> 00:56:54,000
on, hindered by ignorance and 
fettered by craving. 

984
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:58,250
It is enough to experience 
revulsion towards all 

985
00:56:58,250 --> 00:57:02,000
formations, enough to become 
dispassionate towards them, 

986
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:05,000
enough to be liberated from 
them. 

987
00:57:05,000 --> 00:57:08,000
Once you see that, you see the 
problem. 

988
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:12,250
Once you see the scope of this, 
once you see what is actually 

989
00:57:12,250 --> 00:57:15,000
going on, you get this feeling 
of enough. 

990
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,000
You get repelled by this. 
This is understanding suffering,

991
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:23,716
the first noble truth in a much 
broader sense than you have ever

992
00:57:23,716 --> 00:57:27,000
seen it before. 
You see this vastness of samsara

993
00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:32,200
now being reborn here, now being
reborn somewhere else, now being

994
00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,000
an animal perhaps. 
Going on and on. 

995
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,000
And then you get this, oh, 
enough! 

996
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,000
I can't take this anymore. 
So you get this revulsion. 

997
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,000
This is what revulsion means in 
a very deep sense. 

998
00:57:44,000 --> 00:57:48,000
You get repelled by this whole 
thing called existence. 

999
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:51,000
And you kind of get pushed off 
the wheel of samsara. 

1000
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:54,000
You had enough. 
And this is what it means, 

1001
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:57,000
revulsion towards all 
formations. 

1002
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:01,000
It might mean a terrible 
translation. 

1003
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,667
When you hear the revulsion from
all formations, you think, okay,

1004
00:58:05,667 --> 00:58:11,000
to me it doesn't really grab the
mind at all. 

1005
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,000
Formation, it says here, is the 
Pali word sankara. 

1006
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:17,000
All conditioned phenomena, 
right? 

1007
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,000
All phenomena of the world 
basically. 

1008
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,858
They're all conditioned. 
So yet experience, you are 

1009
00:58:22,858 --> 00:58:27,000
repelled by all the phenomena of
the world basically here. 

1010
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,000
Because you see that suffering 
is inherent in all this. 

1011
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,001
And it will continue like this 
into the future, unless you do 

1012
00:58:34,001 --> 00:58:36,667
something about it. 
And that's why you feel 

1013
00:58:36,667 --> 00:58:38,715
repelled. 
And then when you have that 

1014
00:58:38,715 --> 00:58:42,000
sense of being repelled, then 
you become dispassionate. 

1015
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:45,000
You lose your interest in this 
world, right? 

1016
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:48,667
There's no interest anymore. 
Dispassion is the opposite of 

1017
00:58:48,667 --> 00:58:52,000
being passionate, of being 
interested in something. 

1018
00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,572
So you lose your interest. 
And when you lose your interest 

1019
00:58:55,572 --> 00:58:59,287
completely, and that of course 
takes a while, but when the 

1020
00:58:59,287 --> 00:59:03,000
interest is completely lost, 
then your craving disappears. 

1021
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:06,000
And craving disappears, and 
craving disappearing is the same

1022
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,600
as being liberated. 
Liberation means craving having 

1023
00:59:09,600 --> 00:59:14,250
ceased. 
Because when craving ceases, you

1024
00:59:14,250 --> 00:59:16,000
are no longer going to get 
reborn. 

1025
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:19,600
Because craving, as I said 
before, is that which fetters 

1026
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:24,000
you to the round of existence, 
to the round of birth and death,

1027
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:28,000
of samsara. 
So there you are. 

1028
00:59:28,000 --> 00:59:34,000
That is the one about the suttas
on the stream of tears. 

1029
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,000
And it's a very powerful, very 
powerful sutta. 

1030
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,572
And if you kind of, if that sort
of thing inspires you, you can 

1031
00:59:40,572 --> 00:59:43,715
go to that particular chapter. 
And there's a number of suttas 

1032
00:59:43,715 --> 00:59:46,000
there which talk about this in 
the same way. 

1033
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,668
If you feel it is, if you don't 
like it, you don't have to read 

1034
00:59:49,668 --> 00:59:53,000
that kind of sutta. 
The point here is that people 

1035
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:55,000
are inspired by different 
things. 

1036
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,000
They find different things 
interesting. 

1037
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,000
So you read those things that 
interest you. 

1038
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,750
Don't just, you know, if you 
find something really hard to 

1039
01:00:02,750 --> 01:00:05,335
read or you don't like it at 
all, don't force yourself to 

1040
01:00:05,335 --> 01:00:08,429
read stuff you don't like. 
And maybe later on, you can get 

1041
01:00:08,429 --> 01:00:10,778
back to it afterwards, once you 
have digested some of the other 

1042
01:00:10,778 --> 01:00:17,400
stuff in the suttas. 
So that is the Buddha's way of 

1043
01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:23,000
explaining rebirth and why. 
One reason, among many reasons, 

1044
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:28,000
why the idea of rebirth is so 
powerful and so important. 

1045
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:34,700
And I will stop there because we
have been going for just over an

1046
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:37,500
hour. 
And we will continue tomorrow 

1047
01:00:37,500 --> 01:00:41,500
morning with a little bit more 
about rebirth and then about 

1048
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:44,667
kamma and the other factors 
we'll be talking about 

1049
01:00:44,667 --> 01:00:45,000
afterwards.
