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And the topic for this evening's
talk is nothing less than the 

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meaning of life. 
And it sounds like a very kind 

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of highfalutin title, but 
actually the reason I chose this

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title is because Buddhism has a 
lot to say about this question. 

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This question which philosophers
have argued about over thousands

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of years, centuries, and nobody 
really seems to get a grasp on, 

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which we all probably think 
about from time to time. 

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And the beautiful thing about 
Buddhism, it actually has 

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something to say about this 
profound, maybe most important 

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question in many ways in all our
lives. 

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And that's why I want to talk 
about this. 

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And we all know how when we're 
young, we often discuss the 

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meaning of life between 
ourselves and our friends. 

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And how often when you are in 
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twenties, you consider these 
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It's very important. 
What could the meaning of life 

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be? 
What am I here for? 

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And then later on, as we become 
older, we get... trapped in all 

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the daily duties we have, the 
work we have, family life, 

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paying off the mortgage. 
All these other things become so

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important in our lives that 
these big questions, like what 

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the meaning of life is, becomes 
lost because of all these daily 

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activities that we have. 
But actually, when you think 

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about it, it's actually a very 
important question. 

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Because if you can come to some 
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meaning of life is, then of 
course all the other things tend

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to fall into place. 
It gives you the overall 

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picture. 
It gives you kind of the grand 

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scheme of things. 
And everything else in life 

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becomes quite obvious and clear 
what you should be doing. 

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And when you're young, when 
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life's journey, you have to 
decide what sort of schooling 

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you want to do. 
You have to decide the kind of 

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career you're going to have. 
You have to decide if and with 

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whom you're going to get 
married, what sort of lifestyle 

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you want to lead, what religion 
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religion. 
What you're going to do. 

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What you're going to do. 
What you believe in, basically. 

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What is this all about? 
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young, these are important 
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Because you're just starting 
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And it tends to set the course 
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Those decisions you make at the 
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And of course, if you then can 
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the meaning of life is all 
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other things tend to fall into 
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And it becomes quite much more 
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grand questions in your life. 
Because you have an overall 

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understanding of what this 
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But as I said, usually we forget
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We forget asking this question. 
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answer to this question. 
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beyond our ability to understand
what the meaning of life is all 

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about. 
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fail to find the answer to this 
question is simply because we 

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look at it in the wrong way. 
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people look at this question, 
what is the meaning of life, 

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they tend to look at what is the
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society. 
Where is the universe going? 

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Are we going towards some kind 
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sometime in the future? 
Where we're all going to be 

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happy, all be sort of rejoicing 
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And you can read many books 
about these kind of theories of 

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how we're all sort of moving 
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We're all developing in a 
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And eventually we'll reach a 
certain point where things are 

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just right or just wrong, or 
right for some people and wrong 

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for others, or maybe right for 
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And this is a kind of, we look 
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things. 
Where is this universe going? 

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Where is society developing? 
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look at it. 
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you're never going to find an 
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You're never going to find an 
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Is it the case that we're all 
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That we're all going somewhere? 
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some kind of ideal, some kind of
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Where we're all happy and all 
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with each other? 
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tend to think this way in terms 
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somewhere, the reason we think 
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there's two reasons I think, at 
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Because we have a sense of self,
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something permanent in here 
which is me, I am this, I have a

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self. 
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self-importance. 
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We are something which lasts in 
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through all these changes in the
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And because of that, because we 
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important, that means there must
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existence of ours. 
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this grand universe which moves 
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final destination of all of us, 
which is so important. 

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Otherwise, why do we exist? 
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Why do we have this unique 
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is a purpose for it? 
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of self, this kind of immediate 
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gives us a sense of 
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natural to think that this 
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that people often believe that 
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of purpose, that this whole big 
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because there is a sense that we
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This universe has been created. 
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creative force which has started
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again it is natural to think 
that it must have some kind of 

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purpose. 
Because why would some creative 

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force create this universe? 
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create each one of us? 
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somewhere to go, there is a 
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There is something, there is a 
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universe, a scheme, and we are 
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this grand scheme. 
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and the two important reasons I 
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think in terms of the meaning of
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universe, this society of ours, 
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going towards some kind of 
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But of course, the point is that
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firstly, there is no, as we look
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self inside of us. 
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see that there are thoughts 
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the time, there are feelings 
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perceptions, all kinds of 
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entity within us that we can 
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This universe has not been 
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which put this whole thing into 
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permanent self or of a creator 
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then you take away a lot of this
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have some kind of purpose. 
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way Buddhism looks at these 
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purpose to this universe. 
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according to causes and 
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to aeon, universe to universe, 
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It's more like, if you want to 
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universe evolves, it is more 
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after universe, aeon after aeon.
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for our individual lives. 
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our individual lives also, 
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followed one after the other, 
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It's a cyclical existence, going
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doing the same things again, 
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And when we see this again, we 
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Buddhism looks at these things. 
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ultimate purpose, somewhere we 
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a cyclical existence in this 
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So once we understand this, we 
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maybe we can put less faith in 
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actually going somewhere, that 
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kind of perfect society or 
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And we have to look for the 
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life, somewhere else. 
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what is the purpose of life, 
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let's say instead of the purpose
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instead is to look inside 
ourselves and ask us, what is it

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that we all desire? 
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Because if you can actually find
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you really desire inside of 
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fulfillment of that desire, the 
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should really be the purpose of 
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If you can fulfill the most 
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then you are also, in a way, 
finding the very purpose of this

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existence. 
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to think about your life. 
What is it that we all really 

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desire? 
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situation, and it's not very 
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how do we make decisions in our 
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Small little things in daily 
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What do you choose to eat? 
What do you choose to wear when 

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you get up in the morning? 
Which people do you choose to 

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talk to? 
What articles do you read in a 

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newspaper? 
What television programs do you 

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want to watch? 
All these little decisions that 

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we make throughout our day, how 
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And then, they are taken on the 
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another, will make us happy? 
What is more pleasurable? 

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What is beneficial for us? 
What will give us the right 

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energy to endure throughout the 
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we have to do? 
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or another, are made so that it 
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our happiness. 
This is how all our decisions 

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are made throughout the day. 
And you can ask yourself, not 

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only about all the daily 
decisions, but ask yourself also

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about those long-term decisions 
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What education we're going to 
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What sort of job we're going to 
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Where we want to live? 
What religion, what philosophy 

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of life you choose? 
What is the driving force 

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between, that is behind making 
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And again, it is what you think 
is going to give you contentment

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and satisfaction in the long 
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What is going to give you a 
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the society around you? 
What is going to give you 

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pleasure and happiness in your 
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Why do you come to the Buddhist 
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Again, it's because you think 
that this is going to give 

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something to your life. 
If you didn't think that 

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Buddhism had anything to offer 
you in your life, nothing at 

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all, there would be no point in 
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You wouldn't be here. 
And I also like to say, why do I

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come here? 
Why do I bother coming here, 

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sitting, giving a talk? 
And again, the reason is the 

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same. 
I believe that in the long run, 

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it's going to be beneficial for 
me and also maybe beneficial for

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some other people who come to 
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And that's why I do it, because 
I think there's going to be a 

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benefit out of that. 
So again, we can see how 

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happiness, the underlying, all 
these various things that we're 

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searching for can be classified 
as happiness in one way or 

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another. 
We're all searching for that 

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happiness in our lives. 
And we can even take it down to 

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very small things in your life, 
like when you're sitting there 

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now, you will be moving a little
bit, twitching a little bit, 

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stretching a bit here and there.
And of course, again, it's the 

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same thing. 
We're trying to get away from a 

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little bit of pain, a little bit
of irritation, trying to find 

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comfort in this body, which is 
so difficult to find comfort in 

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over long periods of time. 
And again, it's trying to move 

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towards pleasure, towards 
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And everything which drives us 
in life is basically a movement 

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towards finding happiness in 
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life, finding something which 
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I'll just call it happiness to 
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word which maybe can summarize 
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It's called happiness. 
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of life. 
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satisfy that happiness that we 
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This is what life is all about. 
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you think about it. 
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life. 
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about the fact that this is the 
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idea of happiness seems so 
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It's so hard to get to. 
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this happiness is. 
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it's very hard to actually get a
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actually is the purpose. 
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looking at what you really want 
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to see that this is where we all
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And the problem that arises at 
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we want to be happy, is, well, 
what actually is that happiness 

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that we really desire? 
It can be so hard to understand.

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Because there are different 
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movies, eating nice food, 
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things. 
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of happiness, the happiness of 
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tranquil, of a sense of 
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mind that we can sometimes have.
And this is, in a sense, another

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type of happiness. 
So where should we actually seek

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for happiness? 
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what really is this happiness? 
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that, even though everybody out 
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pursuing that happiness, very 
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get it. 
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people are still down, they're 
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and relatives. 
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that really peaceful, contented,
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they're looking in the wrong 
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that the Buddha made in these 
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He made a distinction between 
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happiness and, on the other 
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These are the two main 
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Buddha can be said to have made.
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before, but I find it such an 
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talk about it again. 
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between the worldly happiness 
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And the worldly happiness is all
the happiness of the senses, the

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five senses, that we get from 
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touching things, etc. 
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we get when we get a promotion 
at work, when we get a salary 

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increase, when we get maybe into
a powerful position, when we get

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famous, or when a good report 
spreads around, about this 

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person, he or she is a very nice
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happinesses. 
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have the spiritual happinesses. 
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are the happinesses which come 
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happinesses which come from 
being moral, from doing good, 

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from being kind, from being 
generous, from being peaceful, 

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having loving kindness and 
compassion in your life, from 

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doing meditation practice. 
All of those positive qualities 

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that we develop inside of our 
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Well, that happiness which comes
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happiness. 
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important distinctions that the 
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And why is it that one of these 
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whereas the other one is not so 
important according to the 

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Buddha's teachings? 
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and I will quote something again
which I have quoted here before.

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And this was an experiment that 
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long time ago, which showed what
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sensual pleasures. 
How does it affect the mind when

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we enjoy sensual pleasures? 
And this experiment, if I 

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remember correctly, was done at 
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1970s, so it's the kind of 
highest pedigree of experiments.

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This is not just some kind of 
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And what they found, which was 
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all, in a sense, start off with 
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life. 
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or something like that. 
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Some people start off higher, 
some people start off lower, but

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we sort of start off at a 
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sensual pleasure, say a meal, or
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something, then there is like a 
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that plateau where we're 
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Peak experience comes. 
And soon after we had that meal,

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soon after we've seen that 
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where it was before. 
This is the extraordinary thing.

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We're searching for these 
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over, it comes back down again 
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Or take a larger thing in life. 
Take, you get a new house, you 

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get a new car, something which 
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your life, and the happiness you
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You start off again where you 
were before, the happiness goes 

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up, it lasts for a while, but 
slowly but surely, the 

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excitement of that new house, 
that new car, comes down again. 

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Down, down, down. 
After a few weeks, after a few 

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months, you come down again, all
the way down to where you were 

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when you were where you were 
before. 

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And this is the way it goes on 
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Happiness after happiness, 
sensual happiness after 

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happiness. 
You get a promotion in your job.

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You feel really excited, because
when you get a promotion, you 

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feel valued by your boss or by 
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So it feels wonderful to get 
that promotion. 

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And then you get a new car, and 
you get a new car, and you feel 

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wonderful to get that promotion.
But the same problem again, 

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slowly but truly, it comes down,
down, down, down. 

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And down there. 
And you can see what's going on 

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here. 
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It doesn't actually remain. 
And of course, when something 

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doesn't remain, what happens? 
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happiness, and you think, oh, I 
wish I had that happiness again.

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Then craving and desire arises 
within you to do the same thing 

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again, again and again and 
again. 

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It goes up, and then it goes 
down again. 

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It goes up, and it goes down. 
Always leading to 

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disappointment. 
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you try it again and again and 
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And this is how most people live
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other. 
Up and down, up and down, up and

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down. 
And not really getting anywhere 

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at all. 
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biggest happinesses in life, I 
have to talk about this as well,

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because this is what we maybe 
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And this is the happiness of a 
good relationship, the happiness

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of falling in love initially, 
and then having a good 

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relationship afterwards. 
But even this idea of falling in

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love, it is something which is 
maybe some of the highest 

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happiness that some people 
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It lasts maybe for a year, I 
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a half, sometimes it's quoted, 
how long these feelings can 

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last. 
But sure enough, it comes down 

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again, that as well. 
You cannot be in love forever 

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and ever. 
It's going to disappear. 

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So again, there is no permanent 
satisfaction in falling in love 

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either. 
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thing, and the reverse thing is 
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And that sometimes we have 
sensual disappointment instead 

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of sensual happiness. 
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and we go down, bam, and we get 
depressed, we grieve, and we 

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feel really unhappy. 
We feel unappreciated by our 

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boss or by our fellow workers 
because they have demoted us, or

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we get a salary reduction 
because the company isn't doing 

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so well, and again we feel down.
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when something happens which is 
unpleasant, even if it's just 

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food maybe which doesn't quite 
agree with you, again it comes 

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up again, slowly but surely. 
And after a while, you have 

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forgotten about that experience,
and again you go up to almost 

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exactly the level you were 
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So this is what life is like. 
You start off at a certain 

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level, and it goes up and down, 
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You have some deep downs and 
some high ups. 

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But then on your deathbed, you 
are roughly where you were when 

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you started off. 
It's terrible, isn't it? 

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It's sort of that, it looks so 
pointless when you see it that 

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way. 
You wonder what was, and that's 

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why so many people come to the 
end of their life and think, 

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what was this all about? 
What was the purpose of all 

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this? 
Yes, I had a few happinesses, I 

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had a few sorrows, but at the 
end of the day, I'm exactly 

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where I started. 
And I leave the world exactly in

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the same way as I came into this
world. 

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I didn't have anything when I 
came in. 

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I leave everything behind again 
when I go. 

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What was this all about? 
And it's a good question. 

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It's a good question to ask, 
what was it all about? 

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Because this is where it leads 
us, of course, over to the 

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spiritual happiness. 
And this is the other way of 

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looking at it. 
The other type of happiness 

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which the Buddha praised. 
This is the real happiness, the 

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happiness which really matters. 
And the difference between this 

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happiness and the worldly 
happiness can again be found in 

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certain experiments. 
And many of you may have read 

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about them, which have been done
recently also in the United 

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States. 
They seem to be called the human

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brain. 
They seem to be at the forefront

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of this sort of research. 
And what they did there, they 

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actually found out that in the 
human brain, there is like 

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certain areas which have a 
tendency to become active when 

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we experience certain types of 
happiness or happiness in 

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general. 
And because they have figured 

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this out, they were actually 
able to find out how happy 

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various people can be. 
And they measured various types 

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of people. 
And some of the people they 

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measured were people who 
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People who were good people, who
meditated, who did good things 

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in their lives. 
And they found that the more 

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spiritual practice you were 
doing, and particularly this was

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about meditation practice, the 
more you did of it, and the more

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success you had in your 
meditation practice, the more 

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happiness you scored on this 
particular scale that they had 

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devised. 
And that was an amazing result. 

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It was an amazing result that 
this, the real happiness, and 

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the point about this happiness 
is not a happiness which fades 

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away. 
This was, remember, they were 

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actually put under certain brain
scanning machines, all kinds of 

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electronic equipment. 
This was happiness that was 

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almost like imprinted in them. 
Because the longer you had 

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practiced the spiritual life, 
the more happy you were. 

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In other words, it was a result 
of a long term of practice. 

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It wasn't a result of some kind 
of gratification, or something 

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like that. 
It was a result of the 

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realization that we were having 
just on that particular day. 

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And this was an amazing result. 
And this fits perfectly with how

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the Buddha taught. 
Because the real, important, and

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interesting happiness to be had 
in life is precisely the 

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spiritual happiness. 
And the way to look at this, to 

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go back to this idea of levels 
of happiness, you start off on a

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certain level in life. 
But then when you lead a 

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spiritual life, I'm going to 
give maybe one easy example to 

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00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:26,080
understand. 
Suddenly you want to do 

453
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,582
something good in your life. 
You get this sense, this urge of

454
00:25:29,582 --> 00:25:32,247
doing something spontaneously 
nice to somebody, say something 

455
00:25:32,247 --> 00:25:34,580
nice, because you really feel 
like it in your heart. 

456
00:25:34,580 --> 00:25:37,380
This is not a superficial kind 
of kindness, this is a real 

457
00:25:37,380 --> 00:25:39,247
kindness. 
You feel like doing something 

458
00:25:39,247 --> 00:25:42,455
nice, you help somebody, you 
give somebody something when 

459
00:25:42,455 --> 00:25:46,499
they need something. 
And how do you feel after doing 

460
00:25:46,499 --> 00:25:48,580
something spontaneously nice 
towards somebody? 

461
00:25:48,580 --> 00:25:52,248
You feel good inside of you. 
There's a happiness which arises

462
00:25:52,248 --> 00:25:55,580
from doing something kind. 
Doing something generous. 

463
00:25:55,580 --> 00:25:59,580
And we all know what that feels 
like when we think about it. 

464
00:25:59,580 --> 00:26:02,330
And that is a kind of, it's a 
little bit like the sensual 

465
00:26:02,330 --> 00:26:04,580
happiness. 
There's a peak experience there.

466
00:26:04,580 --> 00:26:06,580
It's a different type of 
happiness. 

467
00:26:06,580 --> 00:26:10,400
But there's a happiness 
nonetheless, a kind of peak 

468
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,580
experience which comes with that
kind action. 

469
00:26:13,580 --> 00:26:15,580
And then afterwards it comes 
down again. 

470
00:26:15,580 --> 00:26:19,582
But when it comes down again, it
doesn't come down precisely to 

471
00:26:19,582 --> 00:26:24,360
the same level it was before. 
It leads, it leaves a little 

472
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:28,580
residue inside of the mind. 
And that is the important 

473
00:26:28,580 --> 00:26:32,080
difference between the spiritual
happiness and the worldly 

474
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,248
happiness. 
The spiritual happiness leaves a

475
00:26:34,248 --> 00:26:38,580
residue in the mind, so the mind
is lifted up a small stage. 

476
00:26:38,580 --> 00:26:43,205
Each time you do something good,
the mind is lifted up a tiny 

477
00:26:43,205 --> 00:26:45,890
fraction. 
And this is exactly the same 

478
00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:49,580
thing which happens if we are 
virtuous, if we are kind and 

479
00:26:49,580 --> 00:26:52,580
good people who do the right 
thing in the world, every time 

480
00:26:52,580 --> 00:26:57,352
we do something good, every time
we decide that we are going to 

481
00:26:57,352 --> 00:27:03,580
be nice and kind, we are slowly 
but surely lifting up our mind, 

482
00:27:03,580 --> 00:27:09,205
step by step, stage by stage. 
Each time we do a meditation on 

483
00:27:09,205 --> 00:27:13,180
compassion, on loving kindness, 
we become more peaceful, and we 

484
00:27:13,180 --> 00:27:16,914
have a general good feeling for 
the world, we are lifting our 

485
00:27:16,914 --> 00:27:19,580
minds up, stage by stage by 
stage. 

486
00:27:19,580 --> 00:27:23,724
And of course, you can see what 
happens here, if you keep doing 

487
00:27:23,724 --> 00:27:26,847
this over time, instead of 
getting this flat curve, which 

488
00:27:26,847 --> 00:27:30,580
starts off here and ends up over
here at the end of your life, 

489
00:27:30,580 --> 00:27:34,580
you get an inclination going 
upwards, lifting yourself up, 

490
00:27:34,580 --> 00:27:37,580
going higher and higher and 
higher. 

491
00:27:37,580 --> 00:27:41,504
Of course, sometimes we are 
going to fail, we are not always

492
00:27:41,504 --> 00:27:44,580
going to be able to be kind and 
generous and do the right thing,

493
00:27:44,580 --> 00:27:47,580
sometimes it is going to go 
wrong, and of course then, 

494
00:27:47,580 --> 00:27:49,580
instead of pointing up, we are 
pointing a little bit down. 

495
00:27:49,580 --> 00:27:52,380
So it also goes a little bit 
down, but then we catch 

496
00:27:52,380 --> 00:27:54,580
ourselves, and we start to go up
again. 

497
00:27:54,580 --> 00:27:58,580
So the difference then, between 
the sensual happiness and the 

498
00:27:58,580 --> 00:28:01,915
spiritual happiness, is that if 
we practice the spiritual 

499
00:28:01,915 --> 00:28:05,830
happiness in a successful way, 
we are going to actually lift 

500
00:28:05,830 --> 00:28:11,580
ourselves up, lift our mind up, 
stage by stage, going upwards, 

501
00:28:11,580 --> 00:28:16,724
and upwards, and upwards. 
And of course, when you come to 

502
00:28:16,724 --> 00:28:20,330
your final days, when your time 
comes to lay down, lay down your

503
00:28:20,330 --> 00:28:24,247
body, and say goodbye to this 
world, you are on a different 

504
00:28:24,247 --> 00:28:28,580
level from where you started off
when you came into this world. 

505
00:28:28,580 --> 00:28:32,580
And that is the beautiful thing 
about the spiritual happiness, 

506
00:28:32,580 --> 00:28:35,580
it takes you somewhere. 
When you look back, you say, 

507
00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:38,180
wow, this life was really 
worthwhile, because I have 

508
00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:43,247
gotten somewhere, I have changed
myself for a better person, I am

509
00:28:43,247 --> 00:28:46,914
happier, more content, more 
satisfied with my life now than 

510
00:28:46,914 --> 00:28:48,580
I was when I came into this 
world. 

511
00:28:48,580 --> 00:28:52,867
I have gone somewhere. 
And on the way, because I have 

512
00:28:52,867 --> 00:28:57,914
been kind and good and a 
generous person, on the way, I 

513
00:28:57,914 --> 00:29:01,914
have also helped other people, 
done good in this world, and 

514
00:29:01,914 --> 00:29:05,180
brought other people with me on 
this beautiful spiritual 

515
00:29:05,180 --> 00:29:07,580
journey, which actually takes us
somewhere. 

516
00:29:07,580 --> 00:29:12,580
So now you can start to see here
what this life is all about. 

517
00:29:12,580 --> 00:29:16,580
This life is all about to find 
this true kind of happiness, 

518
00:29:16,580 --> 00:29:20,581
this real happiness, this real 
satisfaction, which can be 

519
00:29:20,581 --> 00:29:24,080
gained by practicing a spiritual
life, practicing good, doing 

520
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,358
what is right, so we can 
actually go somewhere in our 

521
00:29:27,358 --> 00:29:31,438
life, we can actually take 
ourselves somewhere and end up 

522
00:29:31,438 --> 00:29:34,580
in a different place from where 
we started off. 

523
00:29:34,580 --> 00:29:39,205
That becomes the purpose, that 
becomes what life is really all 

524
00:29:39,205 --> 00:29:43,080
about, ultimately. 
This is the Buddhist answer to 

525
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:45,580
this question, what is the 
meaning of life? 

526
00:29:45,580 --> 00:29:50,580
What is the purpose? 
What is the purpose of life? 

527
00:29:50,580 --> 00:29:53,580
So why is it then, one of the 
things I want to ask also is, 

528
00:29:53,580 --> 00:29:56,914
why is it then that so many 
people, they may hear the 

529
00:29:56,914 --> 00:29:59,980
Buddhist teachings, they may 
hear the sort of things that I 

530
00:29:59,980 --> 00:30:03,580
am saying tonight, and I am 
certainly personally convinced 

531
00:30:03,580 --> 00:30:07,914
that this is a very valid way of
looking at the world, and you 

532
00:30:07,914 --> 00:30:10,380
may agree with me that this is a
valid way of looking at the 

533
00:30:10,380 --> 00:30:14,780
world, and yet, why is it that 
many people, they hear the 

534
00:30:14,780 --> 00:30:18,580
Buddhist teachings, they hear 
other good spiritual teachings, 

535
00:30:18,580 --> 00:30:22,380
and yet, they turn their back to
these things, they don't 

536
00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:25,980
actually understand it. 
And why is it that even if we 

537
00:30:25,980 --> 00:30:30,010
are Buddhist, why is it that 
sometimes we don't maybe put in 

538
00:30:30,010 --> 00:30:33,580
that effort that we really would
like to put into our practice? 

539
00:30:33,580 --> 00:30:37,080
Why is it that sometimes we 
fail, we don't make as much 

540
00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:40,330
progress as we would like? 
Why is it that even in monastic 

541
00:30:40,330 --> 00:30:43,308
life, sometimes I sit in my 
kuti, and I wonder, why am I not

542
00:30:43,308 --> 00:30:44,580
putting in more effort into my 
practice? 

543
00:30:45,580 --> 00:30:49,180
Because sometimes it happens 
with all of us that we could put

544
00:30:49,180 --> 00:30:51,580
in more effort into our 
practice. 

545
00:30:51,580 --> 00:30:57,248
And I think one of the answers 
to this is, again, like I 

546
00:30:57,248 --> 00:31:01,247
started off talking about, is 
this idea of a self inside of 

547
00:31:01,247 --> 00:31:03,915
us. 
And the problem with the idea of

548
00:31:03,915 --> 00:31:07,764
a self inside of us is that we 
have a sense of permanence 

549
00:31:07,764 --> 00:31:10,580
inside of us, we have a sense of
who we are. 

550
00:31:10,580 --> 00:31:13,980
And because we have this sense 
of permanence inside of us, it 

551
00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:18,438
is often very difficult, very 
difficult to understand that it 

552
00:31:18,438 --> 00:31:22,581
is possible to change around, to
become very different from what 

553
00:31:22,581 --> 00:31:26,205
we already are. 
Because we are not able to see 

554
00:31:26,205 --> 00:31:30,080
fully that potential for change,
potential for transformation 

555
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:35,914
inside of us, that is often the 
reason why we maybe neglect and 

556
00:31:35,914 --> 00:31:40,080
don't put in sufficient effort 
in our life to actually 

557
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,830
transform ourselves. 
And the way to understand this 

558
00:31:43,830 --> 00:31:48,830
is that, if you look inside of 
yourself, you see, well, this is

559
00:31:48,830 --> 00:31:50,580
who I am. 
This is me. 

560
00:31:50,580 --> 00:31:53,914
And the way you feel about 
yourself, the way you think 

561
00:31:53,914 --> 00:31:56,580
about yourself, this is you, 
right? 

562
00:31:56,580 --> 00:32:02,580
This is how we think we are. 
And one easy way of seeing this,

563
00:32:02,580 --> 00:32:06,438
for example, if a person gets 
very depressed, what happens if 

564
00:32:06,438 --> 00:32:09,830
people get very depressed? 
Or they grieve a lot because 

565
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:11,580
they have lost somebody close to
them? 

566
00:32:11,580 --> 00:32:14,580
Sometimes people commit suicide 
because of that. 

567
00:32:14,580 --> 00:32:18,580
We see this all the time. 
Why do people commit suicide? 

568
00:32:18,580 --> 00:32:22,580
Because they think that this is 
like a permanent condition. 

569
00:32:22,580 --> 00:32:26,180
They are not able to see here 
that this is temporary, that one

570
00:32:26,180 --> 00:32:29,724
day they will get out of this 
problem, out of this suffering 

571
00:32:29,724 --> 00:32:32,330
in their lives. 
And this is a problem that we 

572
00:32:32,330 --> 00:32:36,692
often have in our lives. 
We tend to see our present state

573
00:32:36,692 --> 00:32:39,580
as permanent, as something which
is there. 

574
00:32:39,580 --> 00:32:42,380
And of course, if you are 
depressed and you think it's 

575
00:32:42,380 --> 00:32:43,580
permanent, you get into a very 
kind of a state of depression. 

576
00:32:43,580 --> 00:32:46,580
You get into a very kind of 
hopeless situation. 

577
00:32:46,580 --> 00:32:49,152
So one of the most important 
things, therefore, always to 

578
00:32:49,152 --> 00:32:52,830
tell somebody who is sad, who is
depressed, who is unhappy, is 

579
00:32:52,830 --> 00:32:55,580
always to say, well, remember, 
this is impermanent. 

580
00:32:55,580 --> 00:32:59,580
This too will pass, as Ajahn 
Brahm would always say. 

581
00:32:59,580 --> 00:33:02,580
And that is one of the most 
important things to remember. 

582
00:33:02,580 --> 00:33:07,980
And this is also important to 
remember on the spiritual path 

583
00:33:07,980 --> 00:33:12,580
itself, that this, the way I am 
now, is not permanent. 

584
00:33:12,580 --> 00:33:15,580
I don't have to be this way I am
now. 

585
00:33:15,580 --> 00:33:19,580
I can change. 
If you take the idea of self 

586
00:33:19,580 --> 00:33:24,580
completely out of the equation 
and you realize that we are 

587
00:33:24,580 --> 00:33:29,009
conditioned beings, external 
condition work on us, then 

588
00:33:29,009 --> 00:33:33,580
suddenly you take away the 
limits of potential for change. 

589
00:33:33,580 --> 00:33:36,580
Suddenly there is no limit 
anymore for how much happiness, 

590
00:33:36,580 --> 00:33:40,470
how much contentment, how much 
peace, how much satisfaction you

591
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:44,580
can find in your life. 
That limit is taken off. 

592
00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:48,080
And suddenly you start to 
understand the potential of the 

593
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:52,580
spiritual life is enormous. 
It is very likely to be beyond 

594
00:33:52,580 --> 00:33:56,914
every one of us here's wildest 
dreams what is possible to 

595
00:33:56,914 --> 00:33:58,580
actually attain in this 
spiritual life. 

596
00:33:58,580 --> 00:34:02,580
That is what is at stake. 
It's something truly marvelous. 

597
00:34:02,580 --> 00:34:06,980
The end of all suffering, the 
highest possible happiness, 

598
00:34:06,980 --> 00:34:09,580
Nibbana. 
That is what really is at stake 

599
00:34:09,580 --> 00:34:15,152
with this spiritual life. 
So be careful in believing too 

600
00:34:15,152 --> 00:34:19,580
much in the way that who you are
now, this person you are now, 

601
00:34:19,580 --> 00:34:23,179
this is going to last. 
There is enormous potential 

602
00:34:23,179 --> 00:34:25,830
there. 
And when you read what the 

603
00:34:25,830 --> 00:34:29,152
Buddha taught, when you see 
maybe other people who have 

604
00:34:29,152 --> 00:34:32,080
practiced for a long time, you 
can sometimes infer that there 

605
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,914
is something there which is 
available, something much 

606
00:34:34,914 --> 00:34:39,724
higher, something which we all 
can attain if we put in the 

607
00:34:39,724 --> 00:34:41,580
right effort. 
And that is... 

608
00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:45,295
So don't allow this illusion 
that we call in Buddhism this 

609
00:34:45,295 --> 00:34:47,580
illusion of a permanent self 
inside. 

610
00:34:47,580 --> 00:34:51,580
Don't allow that to stop you 
from attaining your potential, 

611
00:34:51,580 --> 00:34:54,246
from moving on. 
Remember that the potential for 

612
00:34:54,246 --> 00:35:02,580
change is almost unlimited. 
So that is essentially my talk 

613
00:35:02,580 --> 00:35:05,580
this evening. 
It's about the purpose of life. 

614
00:35:05,580 --> 00:35:10,080
And the purpose of life is to 
find that satisfaction, that 

615
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:13,980
happiness, that wealth, that 
we're all yearning for, that 

616
00:35:13,980 --> 00:35:17,330
we're all seeking for, that 
which so many people find so 

617
00:35:17,330 --> 00:35:19,580
difficult and so hard to really 
understand. 

618
00:35:19,580 --> 00:35:22,080
That is what we have to look. 
And if we look towards the 

619
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:26,180
Buddhist teachings, that is, in 
my opinion, the best place to 

620
00:35:26,180 --> 00:35:30,580
look if you want to find that 
sort of complete and final 

621
00:35:30,580 --> 00:35:34,580
satisfaction in your life. 
That is the talk. 

622
00:35:38,580 --> 00:35:44,780
Okay, so are there any... 
questions or comments or 

623
00:35:44,780 --> 00:35:49,580
complaints or anything else? 
This is the chance you have. 

624
00:35:51,580 --> 00:36:17,580
Yes, at the back there. 
Yes. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

625
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:27,580
. . . . 
Right. . 

626
00:36:27,580 --> 00:36:30,414
Yes. . 
Yeah, I think that's probably 

627
00:36:30,414 --> 00:36:32,980
true because what you can say is
that that expanding of energy to

628
00:36:32,980 --> 00:36:36,580
actually do the practice, that 
is a kind of suffering in life. 

629
00:36:36,580 --> 00:36:39,295
It's a kind of a suffering. 
And because we don't want to 

630
00:36:39,295 --> 00:36:42,602
suffer, we tend to steer away 
away from those sort of things 

631
00:36:42,602 --> 00:36:45,964
which is too much ardor and 
takes too much energy. 

632
00:36:45,964 --> 00:36:48,580
That is true. 
And of course there it is 

633
00:36:48,580 --> 00:36:50,284
important just to have that 
faith. 

634
00:36:50,284 --> 00:36:54,812
The faith and understand that if
I put in this energy I will 

635
00:36:54,812 --> 00:36:57,820
actually overcome much more 
suffering in the future. 

636
00:36:57,820 --> 00:37:00,350
That is where the faith comes in
and the understanding of the 

637
00:37:00,350 --> 00:37:01,735
Dhamma, understanding of the 
Buddha's teachings. 

638
00:37:01,735 --> 00:37:06,090
And then you will accept, okay, 
a little bit of suffering now is

639
00:37:06,090 --> 00:37:09,373
worth it in the long run. 
It is like keeping the five 

640
00:37:09,373 --> 00:37:11,200
precepts. 
If you are a committed Buddhist 

641
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,034
and you decide that you want to 
keep the five precepts which is 

642
00:37:14,034 --> 00:37:17,024
like the basic moral code of 
Buddhism, well there is a little

643
00:37:17,024 --> 00:37:19,740
bit initially, a little bit of 
suffering involved in keeping 

644
00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:23,892
the five precepts. 
There are certain things you 

645
00:37:23,892 --> 00:37:27,520
can't do. 
If previously you enjoyed lying 

646
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:31,224
to people or drinking alcohol or
whatever it is or maybe even, I 

647
00:37:31,224 --> 00:37:33,897
don't know what, but if you 
enjoyed previously something 

648
00:37:33,897 --> 00:37:36,714
which was against the five 
precepts, then you have to keep 

649
00:37:36,714 --> 00:37:38,085
it. 
You have to stop that. 

650
00:37:38,085 --> 00:37:40,732
And that very stopping involves 
a little bit of suffering. 

651
00:37:40,732 --> 00:37:44,879
But of course in the long run 
you get much more happiness in 

652
00:37:44,879 --> 00:37:47,180
return by actually keeping those
five precepts. 

653
00:37:47,180 --> 00:37:50,456
And it is the same thing with 
the entire path of Buddhism. 

654
00:37:50,456 --> 00:37:53,310
People often go on meditation 
retreats and some of those 

655
00:37:53,310 --> 00:37:55,389
retreats sometimes can be 
suffering for people. 

656
00:37:55,389 --> 00:37:58,370
Maybe not all the time but 
certainly part of the time 

657
00:37:58,370 --> 00:38:01,650
because you are doing things 
which you are not used to do. 

658
00:38:01,650 --> 00:38:05,324
But then if you persevere, if 
you do it correctly, then 

659
00:38:05,324 --> 00:38:09,540
eventually you also get those 
wonderful results that come from

660
00:38:09,540 --> 00:38:13,066
that meditation practice. 
So yes it's true, there is the 

661
00:38:13,066 --> 00:38:14,852
suffering of leading the 
spiritual life. 

662
00:38:14,852 --> 00:38:18,027
It is true. 
But so you have to, in a sense, 

663
00:38:18,027 --> 00:38:21,140
if you want to evaluate your 
spiritual life, never look in 

664
00:38:21,140 --> 00:38:24,648
the short term. 
The short term can be very 

665
00:38:24,648 --> 00:38:27,371
deceptive. 
Always look in the long term. 

666
00:38:27,371 --> 00:38:30,715
So look at yourself today 
compared to what you were six 

667
00:38:30,715 --> 00:38:33,974
months ago or a year ago. 
That's the kind of time span you

668
00:38:33,974 --> 00:38:36,963
need to look at to really see 
whether there is a change in the

669
00:38:36,963 --> 00:38:40,187
positive. 
And then you will make the right

670
00:38:40,187 --> 00:38:43,203
decision whether the spiritual 
life works or not. 

671
00:38:43,203 --> 00:38:47,116
If you just look from one week 
to the next, well because the 

672
00:38:47,116 --> 00:38:51,435
mind is so changeable, it is 
impossible to really see an 

673
00:38:51,435 --> 00:38:56,374
improvement and to have any kind
of proper perspective just from 

674
00:38:56,374 --> 00:39:01,974
one week to the next one. 
Are you happy with that answer? 

675
00:39:01,974 --> 00:39:07,560
Yes? 
Yes. 

676
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:16,824
Okay. 
Well, I mean, first of all, you 

677
00:39:16,824 --> 00:39:29,560
know, being happy is not so bad 
in itself, you know. 

678
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,800
It's pretty good. 
You know, when you think about 

679
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,710
sometimes we get depressed, 
people get into very difficult 

680
00:39:35,710 --> 00:39:38,093
situations. 
You know, and you can't wait to 

681
00:39:38,093 --> 00:39:40,062
get out of it. 
And of course, happiness is 

682
00:39:40,062 --> 00:39:42,272
something wonderful and 
something that becomes very 

683
00:39:42,272 --> 00:39:44,589
beautiful. 
And the happier you get, you 

684
00:39:44,589 --> 00:39:47,276
look back at your previous life,
you think, oh, that was terrible

685
00:39:47,276 --> 00:39:49,472
what I had before. 
I didn't actually realize at the

686
00:39:49,472 --> 00:39:51,979
time how bad it was. 
But now I understand that there 

687
00:39:51,979 --> 00:39:55,415
was a lot more suffering in that
life than I could really see. 

688
00:39:55,415 --> 00:39:58,540
And the reason is because the 
suffering is so close to you, 

689
00:39:58,540 --> 00:40:01,180
that life is so close to you, 
you don't really fully 

690
00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:03,628
understand it. 
So the higher up you get, the 

691
00:40:03,628 --> 00:40:05,560
more higher you still want to 
go. 

692
00:40:05,560 --> 00:40:08,390
Okay. 
And eventually, you go from life

693
00:40:08,390 --> 00:40:11,440
to life, maybe you feel happy in
your future life. 

694
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,284
Sometimes happiness is the wrong
word because sometimes what 

695
00:40:14,284 --> 00:40:16,748
we're seeking is really 
contentment and peace because 

696
00:40:16,748 --> 00:40:19,705
these are actually more profound
and deeper senses of happiness 

697
00:40:19,705 --> 00:40:22,128
than just pure kind of 
excitement or whatever. 

698
00:40:22,128 --> 00:40:25,727
But each life, you can build on 
what you did in the previous 

699
00:40:25,727 --> 00:40:27,428
life. 
You can even end it in this life

700
00:40:27,428 --> 00:40:30,930
if you really work really hard. 
But if you have to, you go on in

701
00:40:30,930 --> 00:40:34,560
the future life, from life to 
life, going higher and higher. 

702
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,576
Okay. 
And this is nibbana or nirvana. 

703
00:40:37,576 --> 00:40:40,600
And this is the highest 
happiness according to Buddhism.

704
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,340
And I think anybody, almost 
everybody I think would agree, 

705
00:40:44,340 --> 00:40:46,959
why shouldn't we have the 
highest happiness? 

706
00:40:46,959 --> 00:40:51,126
If the highest happiness is 
there for the, to be attained, 

707
00:40:51,126 --> 00:40:55,936
surely that makes sense to 
actually go for that goal of the

708
00:40:55,936 --> 00:40:59,218
highest possible happiness. 
That is what it's all about 

709
00:40:59,218 --> 00:41:00,648
basically. 
Please ask beginners questions. 

710
00:41:00,648 --> 00:41:03,460
There's no shame in that. 
There are many people here, I'm 

711
00:41:03,460 --> 00:41:04,160
sure, who come for the first 
time. 

712
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,560
So don't be afraid. 
Yes? 

713
00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:11,740
Okay. 
The fear of change. 

714
00:41:11,740 --> 00:41:21,620
Yeah, okay. 
Well, it depends, you know, what

715
00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:27,668
you mean, I suppose, by fear of 
change. 

716
00:41:27,668 --> 00:41:30,432
But usually you start in the 
small things, you know. 

717
00:41:30,432 --> 00:41:32,597
You start with the things which 
are easy to change. 

718
00:41:32,597 --> 00:41:34,120
You ask yourself, well, how can 
I improve? 

719
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:36,050
Well, you know, how can I 
improve my life a little bit? 

720
00:41:36,050 --> 00:41:39,426
How can I do a little better? 
How can I be a kinder and more 

721
00:41:39,426 --> 00:41:42,730
gentle and more generous and 
more compassionate person in my 

722
00:41:42,730 --> 00:41:44,750
life? 
And most people don't fear that 

723
00:41:44,750 --> 00:41:46,717
kind of change. 
Usually it comes quite 

724
00:41:46,717 --> 00:41:48,328
naturally. 
And then you build on that. 

725
00:41:48,328 --> 00:41:50,238
You become more compassionate. 
And you ask yourself the next 

726
00:41:50,238 --> 00:41:52,452
step, well, how can I become 
even more compassionate and 

727
00:41:52,452 --> 00:41:54,512
kinder? 
How can I do this step by step 

728
00:41:54,512 --> 00:41:58,600
going upwards, moving ahead? 
And then you will see that what 

729
00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:02,260
you may have seemed fearful on 
an earlier occasion actually 

730
00:42:02,260 --> 00:42:04,500
becomes something very natural 
inside of you. 

731
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:07,721
You may change in ways that you 
never expected. 

732
00:42:07,721 --> 00:42:10,938
And it becomes beautiful. 
So don't actually look, don't 

733
00:42:10,938 --> 00:42:14,886
think about your change. 
Just do what is right and see 

734
00:42:14,886 --> 00:42:17,514
what happens. 
And what you will see is that 

735
00:42:17,514 --> 00:42:20,362
your mind changed in a very 
positive and very nice way. 

736
00:42:20,362 --> 00:42:23,040
And I can almost assure you, 
you're going to be very happy 

737
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,639
with that. 
It's not something you're going 

738
00:42:24,639 --> 00:42:26,871
to regret. 
But don't worry about the mind. 

739
00:42:26,871 --> 00:42:29,380
Just do what is right and see 
what happens. 

740
00:42:29,380 --> 00:42:32,592
If you have big problems, you 
can always go and ask Ajahn 

741
00:42:32,592 --> 00:42:33,660
Brahm. 
Don't ask me. 

742
00:42:34,500 --> 00:42:39,000
See how it goes. 
Anybody else want to ask 

743
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,500
anything? 
Yes, at the back. 

744
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:46,292
So if the meaning of what would 
be the Shri Mahagama's talk, and

745
00:42:46,292 --> 00:42:53,900
then after a while I achieve 
that, then go to Nibbana, then 

746
00:42:53,900 --> 00:42:59,642
it will be Nibbana. 
Yeah, well, I mean, the point is

747
00:42:59,642 --> 00:43:01,475
that Nibbana is the meaning, 
right? 

748
00:43:01,475 --> 00:43:04,000
That is the end point. 
So you can't really... 

749
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:09,000
You can't really go beyond that.
But yeah, it is the highest 

750
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,226
possible happiness. 
I think that's good enough. 

751
00:43:11,226 --> 00:43:13,397
If you reach the highest 
possible happiness, there's no 

752
00:43:13,397 --> 00:43:16,196
point in asking for meaning 
anymore because you have 

753
00:43:16,196 --> 00:43:18,960
achieved the highest possible. 
You reached the end. 

754
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:22,510
It's like saying, what is the 
purpose of achieving the highest

755
00:43:22,510 --> 00:43:23,798
happiness? 
Well, that's it. 

756
00:43:23,798 --> 00:43:26,260
You got it. 
You reached it. 

757
00:43:26,260 --> 00:43:30,160
It's a bit like you're an 
Olympic athlete because the 

758
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:34,215
Olympics are coming up soon. 
And your goal is to win the 

759
00:43:34,215 --> 00:43:35,226
particular... 
The event. 

760
00:43:35,226 --> 00:43:38,850
Well, then you win. 
That's really the goal in its 

761
00:43:38,850 --> 00:43:41,371
own right, isn't it? 
There's nothing more beyond 

762
00:43:41,371 --> 00:43:43,028
that. 
You have won, you've made it. 

763
00:43:43,028 --> 00:43:44,973
That's it. 
And the same thing, once you 

764
00:43:44,973 --> 00:43:47,903
achieve the highest happiness, 
well, you have achieved the best

765
00:43:47,903 --> 00:43:49,945
thing that anybody can achieve 
in this universe. 

766
00:43:49,945 --> 00:43:52,500
Why, on earth, would you go on 
seeking for anything more? 

767
00:43:52,500 --> 00:43:56,000
There's no point. 
You have reached the highest. 

768
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,112
Okay. 
So let's pay our respects to the

769
00:43:59,112 --> 00:44:03,000
Buddha, Dhamma, Sangha. 
If you wish, you can take part. 

770
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:03,500
If you don't want to, that's 
okay. 

771
00:44:04,500 --> 00:45:04,480
Thank you. 
Thank you.

