Welcome to jobless behaviour. Hello King Axel, how are you
today? I'm good, I'm just recovering
from fucking almost dying. I feel I've not been sick for
that long, girl. Yes, you might have realised
this episode is a week off schedule.
We're just, we're just doing things.
Yeah, not a lot that is doing things.
Look, sometimes life gets in the way of protecting people's
music. Who has no idea?
Even the jobless. Even the jobless.
Even the jobless have stuff to do.
Yes. No, but today's episode's a
little different. It's not a review.
Yes, so sorry if you're angry we haven't been here.
We're also going to give you something you didn't expect of
us Grammys grimy. Predictions.
I think the nominations come out in November, so.
Oh OK, I got it. I've got the information.
On me, honey, yes. So we're just going to discuss
who we think's going to be nominated, possible wins.
But I will say right now, I feel like this year in music was a
bit boring. I don't.
I don't want to say boring. You're not boring, but like in
terms, I guess like the mainstream music, the mainstream
music industry. Like.
I mean, there was Gaga. That's my age.
I think it's it's interesting that the like typical album roll
out two year cycle is so consistent still within the
music industry and yet somehow we had so much competition last
year and so many people releasing last year and like
next to nobody releasing this year.
Yeah. And I'm like, is that how it's
going to be from now on if they're all trapped in two year
album cycles? Yeah.
Because the only person who's really broken out of that this
year is the one that I'm like, Mr. Reddy Carpenter.
Yes, yes, whether that be for best interest or not, but we'll
get there. Yeah, like, I know I really
wanted to do this episode. And then when I was like putting
them together, I was like, there's not a lot.
Yeah, it's hard. Like, because there's going to
be a discussion of like our personal, like who we think
should be nominated and win, but then we're also going to discuss
like the, like the. Like who's gonna?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think we should just get
into it. You think he is?
Why not? So when I was putting together I
guess the schedule, I thought we could start with like the pop
categories. Oh really?
I'm not a huge fan of pop, but I'll give it my best I.
Just think a little, you know? Something a little fresh and
different for. Us, but yeah, the pop categories
there is album pop solo and duo yeah, I think we'll start with
pop solo because it's pop solo, it's pop solo performance and
now that isn't live performance yes.
I only realized that maybe like a year or two ago I for so long
thought it was live performance. It's not really just.
No, it's like the actual vocal ability.
Yeah, displayed in the song. Yeah, like the performance of
the vocal. Yes, obviously Gaga's gonna.
I absolutely think so, yes. I think it would be stupid for
Gaga to not approach this year with just a shotgun approach and
just submit herself for as much as possible.
Well, because I do have her submissions she submitted
vanish. Allegedly.
She submitted. Vanish unto you and happy
mistake. Happy mistake from the the OH.
I mean, no, like I feel like we're looking at it from like,
coming. Out in the last year, yeah, I
suppose it did right at the end of that.
Oh yes, because Grammy submissions is like August 30th.
Yeah. Like I think we're looking at it
as like a how like 1 was kind of flop in terms of commercial
success, but Having Mistake is a really good song.
Like it's quite new from her, but I really liked it.
It's kind of a shame to go to that album, but I'm just not a
jazz fan. Yeah, but yeah, vanish unto you.
I mean, what a song. Gorge.
Other contenders, Probably Sabrina, should.
Be fair, she's not really given vocals in this latest album.
Sabrina, yeah, I don't know if is Sabrina.
Gaga. I don't know if like the
definition. Let me just quickly look up the
actual definition of. Because to me, if it's not an
actual performance and it's about performance of a song,
then it's like how the artist uses their voice and how the
production is executed for the music.
Yeah. So I don't think someone without
a display of how they use their voice at least.
Yeah, it just seems like solo performance, pop recording,
vocal and and instrumental. Vocal instrumental, yeah.
I just don't think she's giving strong enough vocals in any of
the songs on this newest album. Yes, yes, yeah.
I just, I don't actually know because I mean, flowers won last
year, year before year before that was kind of a snows.
I think it showed like real strength in her voice.
It was really one though. But like.
It's not like it's sad, but yeah, no, it no, it just says,
like, excellence in vocal production, in instrumental.
Yeah. Interesting.
We've had all this like Justin Bieber, Gracie Abrams.
Is she a Grammy darling? Has she won a Grammy?
I don't know. Has she?
I don't know where Gracey Abrams?
Well, I know exactly where Gracey Abrams came from.
But like, as far as actual pop culture relevance, sorry to the
Abrams. The Graces, Graces.
I just don't know. Grammy.
Yeah, I, yeah, because I wrote Grace Abrams down.
It's just like a topic to talk about.
I think she was nominated last year because I it feels like
she's only researched this year but I'm pretty sure her releases
were last year. I didn't even know who she was
before she started performing with Taylor Swift.
No. Neither.
Yeah. Did she open for Taylor Swift in
Europe? Is that what happened?
Her and Vincent Boone. I.
Don't know Did Vincent Boone open?
Yeah. Oh, I think so.
Oh. Vincent Man's probably going to
be nominated. Oh yeah, Vincent Man's.
Probably. Please.
Oh duo. The pop duo.
Yeah, Gaga won that last year, didn't she?
Gagan Bruno for Doug with a smile.
Or was that? Yeah, right.
Yeah, because they performed it. Oh no, they didn't perform.
It they weren't going to perform it because they weren't.
Going to perform it, but they they won.
But. Oh my God, she's she has
submitted killer. Killer.
For Duo, I don't think that's fair.
Wait for Duo. Yeah.
Oh, because I guess Gefafelstein is a feature I.
Have no idea how to say his. Name how you say it.
I'm going to assume it is sure. I think it's to be like Gefaul
sting or something like. That oh, good for her.
No, she has submitted killer for duo.
We might as well get all of her pop submissions.
Obviously. Oh, Oh no, wait.
Oh no, there isn't a best pop album.
Listen there is. No, I don't think so.
Best. Pop album?
No, there is. Pretty sure there's just.
No, there, there definitely is. Because Sabrina.
I'm so honest I controversial don't care about Grammys, like
at all. She submitted for Dance
Electronic. Yes, I I did hear this through
the Grapevine that she didn't put in for pop and she decided
that I guess she'd have a better chance of winning dance
electronic. I guess so, like she probably
saw Charlie I. Mean I guess, but.
Then I I considered Charlie's to.
Be fair, I well, it it depends which version she's submitting,
because I think her extended version with like kill for Love
and Dance, like all of it together.
I think that's got a compelling, like, dance element to it.
Yeah, I think it's just that electronic aspect.
I mean, it is electronic, isn't? It well, to me, I don't know,
the Grammys have so many like genre categories where it's like
so much of them blend together by the definition.
Anyway, genres are a funny thing and.
But yeah, in terms of other artists, like I said, I
genuinely haven't really paid attention to the big artists
they have released this year. I think Chapel could be
considered for like the song ones, the solo performance and
stuff. Obviously no album.
Yeah, I think Subway has a compelling chance at like a
vocal category. Yes, yes, best pop vocal.
Potentially, obviously, Benson Bone, Alex Warren.
Yeah, that'll probably be chucked in there.
Oh, Sabrina. Does Benson Bone still have best
new artist years or is he done? I feel like he was nominated
last year. Yeah, they've got three though,
don't they? I think if you do get nominated
though you can't like you can submit like 3 times whatever but
if you are nominated like that's your one shot.
Right. Because that would be a bit
ridiculous, like a piece knew at us.
Again, it's like no. Yeah, I don't know.
Oh, do we? How do we feel Lord is going to
be treated at the Grammys? Right.
So unfortunately for our listeners, our Lord Review never
came to the light of day just because of a series of that's
gone. Unfortunate to give
difficulties, but we loved the album.
It was so compelling. One one of my favourite albums
will be. Yeah.
Is Lord a Grammy darling? I don't know.
Is Lord enough of like a pop culture phenomenon right now to
be like, seen as a potential winner by the Academy?
I don't know. I I remember when I was putting
together the list, she like jumped back to my head when I
was writing down like potentials for album cover and recording
package. Yeah, I think I would say that
her album cover is the best of the year.
Yeah. I'd agree.
Maybe not recording package because I feel like, for me
anyway, it's just that album cover, but.
I, I get so frustrated talking about awards because like, what
are we, what are we talking about here?
What is the difference between cover out work and recording
package in terms of what Lord is doing?
I think the potential for her to win recording package including
like instead of variant or when you open it, it's like I think a
picture for a naked. Sorry, yeah, album covers
obviously just to cover recording package, the whole
package. I've got loads of good example
for this because she doesn't. She didn't do like multiple
variants of like different cover arts.
But I think the opening, the cover and seeing Lord and I
believe it's clear PVC pants and you can just see her like, I
think that has real potential. Yeah.
Because that did cause a stir, more so than I think anything
this year. I definitely do think she will
be considered for those categories at the very least.
Yeah, no, it was a really good cover up.
Yeah. 'Cause a stir thought it was a
tripod. How many things gone we
discussed? Yeah, I.
With the IUD fighting about like it's just there's so many notes
and like points to this album reflected in the cover artwork.
I think the fact that Charlie's Brett inspired the cover art
award, I think they will. Yeah, I think it's the most
reflective of them starting this award in honour of Brad.
Yeah, yeah. I I think Mahem's also a really
compelling cover artwork, so I could I could almost see them
awarding Mayhem cover art and then Lord for recording projects
because of. Yeah.
Do you remember when the like vinyl started getting sent out
and everyone started opening them and all the tik toks out of
like Mama we Oh yeah. Well, you Lord, just pulp us,
Pulp us out. Yeah, I don't know about Gaga,
but I think she is Grammys darling this year.
To be fair, I also think Sabrinas also causing a bit of a
stir could potentially like in the absence of a for your
consideration, I don't think anybody's really going to be
like going for like the cover out awards.
I think that's the thing, I don't know if like the outro of
the cover out is actually that serious.
Like if, if it's just like a stand Twitter thing or if it's
like a genuine, genuine public thing.
Yeah, I don't know 'cause I feel like the actual intention and
artistic element of the cover up would be appreciated by the
Academy. Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
In a way that in the for the same all the same reasons that
Lords we think has a real potential winning.
I think Sabrina has a. Potential winning.
Yeah, Like, I'm just like wondering if it is like a
genuine outcry, will the Grammys be like, oh, maybe not, maybe we
won't do that because it's risky.
Yeah, I don't know, the the Grammys is always a super hard
one to pin down. No matter what I do think she
would like regardless go for best recording package.
So I think the multiple variance and like just the media around
the album does give a compelling story.
Yeah, because The Academy Is everyone who's evolved what?
Right, I think so. So a lot of the actual Academy
are like, producers and people working behind the scenes.
So it's not all like, Ariana Grande voting for Sabrina
Counter. Oh, isn't that lovely?
Like, it's people we've never seen or heard of before.
Actually, I hope they take it seriously because there's been a
whole bunch of like, you know, hearsay and conversation at
least between what, last Grammys and last Oscars and Golden
Globes, where, like, a bunch of the voters came out and were
like, honestly, I didn't watch or hear everything.
I mean, when you take into account every single winner,
yeah, like you get. So I give you all these albums
and your Cardi B, and you have to decide.
Yeah, I won't be here. Like totally like.
Cardi B on that, That's so funny.
Anyway, she should like. I'm just imagining her like
putting her in a little bike. Yeah, 'cause like when you
actually think about it, how long must that actually take to
go through from all the nominations?
Because I think it was. How can I do it in waves?
I think it was the Oscars who established last year that now
'cause they do it through like a website and like online now
before you vote, you have to like have watched every movie.
Like they give you the screeners and like you have to watch every
movie before you're allowed to vote, Which I think should be
how it works. Because like, if you've only
heard three, you're only going to vote for one of those to be.
And that might not be, you know, the.
Actual, I mean being on The Academy Is like, do you have
like your makers? Do you just?
They they win a cash prize for each for each Grammy.
Yeah, they it's like money. I would think so, yeah.
Like obviously. Yeah, you know.
And the grand schemes of everything.
It's about having the Grammy and knowing, like, you met, you met
that achievement. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know. I don't know whether people are
taking this seriously. Kind of makes me not care a
little. But also I'm always turned out.
This time I'm just like, fuck the Grammys because.
You know, as much as a lot of it is politics, like I said before,
if you don't know, artists usually throw like parties that
are essentially akin to influenza parties.
And they invite members of the recording Academy and they
called for your consideration parties and they basically say
like, hey, This is why you should be voting for us.
Usually they'll, you know, if it's not, if Sabrina Carpenter's
nominated for pop vocal and she'll play the pop vocal and
she'll talk about it. And then so, you know, the
voters have more information and things to go off.
And like, I think to a certain extent those kind of parties are
used as like a 11. You're gonna for sure hear what
you're voting on #2 you get to go to this fierce party and
like, you know, yeah, get to network and stuff.
So you're already more likely to vote for that person because you
were, you know, you got compensation for that.
But I don't. It's kind of an element nobody
ever really talks about. Yeah, I think there's a little
discussion, but then I also think it's like nothing's going
to change. Yeah, I just directed the
debates around like the behaviour of the Grammys and the
Academy Awards. It's always been there.
I mean, when you think about like the history of music and
like, you know, the fact we're still seeing categories for the
first time ever being won by, you know, people of colour,
yeah. Just you really start to think
like if this if it's the Wop 76th.
But I know it's like starting like late 50s or something.
Yeah, if, if it's like, you know, that many years of winners
and we're still only getting the first PSA people to win now.
Yeah. OK.
So the majority of the ahead of me is very, very wide.
Yes. Yes.
So there's also that element to it.
Yeah. Genres are a funny thing, aren't
they? I mean, I think we'd be remiss
to not talk about country over the year.
Yeah. Now being referred to as
contemporary country album the and then then adding a classical
country album, which I think is super interesting because then.
It makes no sense to me. In the history of it, you're
going to see all of those previous albums who won be a
contemporary country album, which then shifts the definition
of what a classical country album.
Exactly, Yeah. Like again, it really does feel
like succumbing to the pressure of people being like Beyoncé
should be in a super category. Yeah, it'll be very interesting
to see the nominees for that category.
I don't really know country music though, but just like.
Again, for me, it's like, it's like if they keep splitting up
contemporary and classical pop and then all of a sudden twice
as many people are winning pop awards, Are you not just going
to flood the Academy eventually? Because now this also implies
that twice as many country winners as Beyoncé's point was
pointing out that it is a heavily white and whitewashed
category and culture. Are you not just going to
further the kind of whitewashing of the Academy?
I don't know. Yeah, no, I, I don't know.
I'm not a country fan. So yeah, either way, with those
one or two categories, yeah. But yeah, it is.
It's shady. Shady indeed, and I think it's
indicative of some like string pulling.
I don't think the Grammys are like rigged per SE.
I think that, yeah, I think that just like who is you?
Who is you? There's.
Like, you know, 12 shareholders or, like, you know, the actual
people at the top, like, seeing all the votes and then picking
the winner anyway. Yeah.
But at the same time, like, for what?
And then we see, like, clear upsets happen.
Yeah. And it's like, is that similar
to say the VMA's or the MTV music videos being like, we're
going to ignore the fan votes and give it to them so that we
cause an uproar so that more. People, it wouldn't surprise me
because I feel like the VMA's and stuff are just like Grammy
dupes. Yeah, if you want to be like
this but cater to like, I don't know, a young audience.
Totally. But at the same time, like,
obviously, you know, there's a lot of discussion to be had
about Nicki Minaj, but her controversy with the Grammys and
deciding to still perform and then kind of being outcast by
the Grammys, kind of indicative of something like that, some
bigger string pulling, punt tearing happening.
Yes, I think, yeah, I as I do think they work with the labels.
And so it is, especially with Nicki Minaj, it is like, stay in
order. Like you do what we say,
otherwise you don't get anything.
No, I, I think there was a bit of like Riggory going on.
He I I think it's just like, yeah, I find the Grammys fun,
but I'm also like, it's not that serious.
Yeah. I have a little uproar with it.
Like within the wake of it, if like blah blah doesn't win, it's
almost like. Just like a Boo.
Yeah, Yeah. We can move on to the general
field now, which is our main categories I reckon starting
with best new artist because he has been quite a lot of new
music from new people this year. Yeah, unfortunately, yeah.
Alex Warren somber, Some somber. Yeah.
So I discovered him like 2 weeks ago and I was like who is this
very scary man? Very tall and skinny.
Straight Conan Grey. Lola, Lola Young.
Yeah, Addison Rae. I Yeah, it's hard because it
will be, I don't know, I think really interesting, if nothing
else, if Addison Rae does not get a single nod or anything
because she did get snubbed by the VMAs.
Yes, but I, I swear her album was like received quite well by
like critical perception. But it is tricky.
It is tricky. I'll take my crate.
Oh, she can't be thingy. But do we think she might?
I don't think so. Like a pop cake or something.
Yeah. I mean, you should have released
a new album. I this like made-up love.
I don't say it like when people are like, oh, she's good
performing everything. I mean, people just like talk
about her music and stuff. I'm like, I'm not seeing this
anywhere. No, like the VMA isn't wedding
summer song or whatever. I'm like, I have not seen a
single Tate McRae stand that's going like, yeah, her song will
come over. Oh yeah, that's cute.
Yeah, I think there is an element of like, not being an
Internet stand and darling, 'cause I think there is an
element where the tape McRae, where everyone knows she's a
good performer. So then you go to the concert
and then once you're at the concert, you go, oh, this music
is actually good and then you start listening.
So I think that is where a lot of her success derives from.
But yeah, I just, I don't see her up here playing with the
dogs like a lot of other people do.
No, that might be controversial. No, I agree.
I feel like it's being forced and it's not going to happen.
It's not even forced. It's like she hasn't found her
sound. She's put out so much music in
the last three years, even though she's being worked like a
dog day and night, drinking from a pot of coffee none of you want
to touch. Well, her like what's probably
freaking out. Like honey, you are on your
fourth out of like 5th. I want the deal and we have
nothing. Yeah.
I don't know how long, but yeah, like.
Like I think she really had like she has some hats, like I'll be
tapping my foot to some type of crazy slow tip.
I just I couldn't pin what who she is as a person or an artist.
To me it's just like. Dancer.
Yeah, pretty dancer. Yeah.
Yeah.
No, I think the tape McRae Love is 4th.
The best new artist. Yeah.
I feel like that's it. I mean, I would personally love
to see Ethel Kane. I don't think she submits
though. No, I think she's been very open
about the face. Yeah, doesn't.
Submit So I'm I'm not like holding my breath, but if I saw
that I'd like that's got her. But yeah, my my guess it it will
go to like Alex Warren or like a guy.
I mean, is Alex Warren's the one that's been dominating the
charts? I think they might just give it
to. Him.
I think so as well. But also I don't know because I
don't even know if his music's good because I have not
listened. But that's the thing, a lot of a
lot of the best new artists, I'm just like other people are
saying that this is apparently a best new artist material.
So yeah. Oh, Rose.
Don't you want me like? Yeah, like I think this is her
best new artist here. If she does, go for it.
Oh yeah, I kind of fully forgot about the Blackpink girls.
Oh, like I think no, I don't even know.
See, it's hard to know like a crossover because even in terms
of like an East to West market, yeah, I think in pop culture is
like reasonably measured, but to the Academy, I don't know if
they're connecting with like what is popular.
I don't think so either because another like debated 1 is Cat's
Eye, but the Grammys don't really do groups.
There's the categories for groups, I think, but in terms of
like a best new. Artist So we haven't had like a
group be super big, especially in the US.
I think the only time like a group in the US was like
favoured, well not favoured but awarded by the Grammys was
Disney's child. Yeah, Disney's child did win a
few. Yeah, it's about a week's time.
Like, I think back, I'm like, did One Direction win any?
Did *NSYNC win any? Backstreet Boys win any.
I don't think they. Did but also.
And is it that I, I don't know what what Grammy has against
groups? Yeah, 'cause I.
But then again, what is best new artist?
What does that entail? What is the any of this?
Like, yeah, I mean, I, I know it's very like common category
for any sort of like award ceremony, but it's just like,
what does that actually entail? Yeah, I feel like it's just
super broad, but yeah, I I think it would just go to one of the
boys because people love them. Their music is kind of provoking
I guess. Again, I'm not super interested
because even this new artist has always kind of been a kind of
cursed award to get anyway. So I feel like it's kind of, no,
it hasn't. I was going to say, I feel like
it's kind of gone away, but kind of hasn't.
I think it's not so much a curse as it is like an expectation
because you have so much more pressure put on you after you
win something like that. And then of course, you're like
nowhere near experienced enough to like handle the extra
pressure. Yeah.
Yeah, because there have been a few really big upsets in terms
of, you know, yeah, best new artists.
And then the people who don't win the award go on to do better
because they don't have that same.
Award. Yeah, no, I kind of got over the
whole best new artist, Chris, because I really like Oh Meli
Vanilli. Ever since then that's been
cursed since like Adele fucking won it.
Yeah. And yeah, so I do think you're
right. It's just like you, you've kind
of hit the top so early. Yeah.
But yeah, I'm not. Lord, when busy, you're honest.
I think so. I feel like that's something
going to. Happen.
Yeah, maybe. She got I she got song.
All record of the year. Yeah, for sure.
Which we'll move on to now. If you don't know the difference
between song, all record of the year, record, sorry, record
being the performer and the producers, where a song is the
songwriting. Oh yeah.
So once the words and once the sound, yeah, basically, yeah,
Alright. What's is it necessary?
I think it's necessary because there are some I.
Do too, but I don't think they agree with that.
I don't. Again, it's hard to, you know,
think about everything the all the Academy has to vote for.
You know, is Ariana Grande sitting there reading
everything, going through scrolling, or does she not have
the fucking time? Yeah.
Do any of these people have any of the fucking time?
So then does it fall on the hundreds of white people who
filling? This recording Academy, yeah.
When I do kind of like predict these categories, I just put
them together because I'm not, unless it's like, no, yeah, I
put them together because I, I don't even think they
distinguish the two. Like, there'll be a little bit,
but it tends to be very similar in nominations.
I can't even think of a seriously like big song in terms
of lyricism and writing. Well, Gaga's, Gaga's submitted
abracadabra for both. Interesting.
I don't know about song of the year.
Yeah, I wouldn't say it's very exciting songwriting.
They're called, Yeah. I think, oh, controversial.
We might have to end up doing a Mayhem review, but I think it's
one of the least impressive songwriting.
Oh no, the album. Yeah, no, for sure.
So the fact she would put it forward is kind of.
Crazy. I think it's because of.
Looking at, you know, all these categories and who is just even
in our mind and who's come up, I can see why she's just kind of
putting forward her most successful stuff.
Yeah. You kind of do when it comes to
record and song. Yeah, I can definitely see
record for sure. Yeah, because she hasn't
submitted abracadabra for any of the pop categories.
But also if she is submitting vanish into you.
I could, I could have really seen that a song.
Yeah, I think she might have done like an obscure song once
for the big categories. But no, I think This is why I
think she's Grammy darling this year, because the way she has
submitted her music has more strategic than anything because
Abracadabra is on the dance pop, so she hasn't submitted it for
pop. And in Zombie Boys submitted for
dance recording, Yeah, Megan being dance electronic album and
all the other pop ones that go to vanish until you have a
mistaken killer. So I think.
Yeah, we'll have to circle back to the when, when?
Well, for sure to for sure to. Make yes, yes.
And I think we should circle back once the actual nominations
come out. Yeah, yeah.
I don't know if Abracadabra would get record off the year.
And yeah, once again, I don't really know much people that
have released. Obviously this talks about
Kendrick with Sabrina Chapel. Ryan's kind of a bit of a Grammy
darling, and I don't know if that's changing.
Well, I mean, you know, the rise and fall of vintage Princess
only being out two years and now her super stardom being
plummeted? Yeah.
Plummeted. No.
Exploding. Yeah.
I think with such a small frame
of reference, it does look like she's a Grammy darling, but you
know, who's to say? Yeah, I think they thought she
might have like, what's a weird like stay within the boundaries
like And because she hasn't, I can see them being like, don't
know about you. I don't.
Know. But I mean, it's like, what's
that new song called? Subway.
Yeah, the subway. I could see that going for like
songwriting a song of the year. But you know, as I see it, for
pop vocal performance, I think, yeah, her voice is incredibly
strong on this, yes. Yes, yeah, I it's a shame it
wasn't released earlier. I think it would have been
really successful, but it just took so long to come out.
Yeah, just I don't even know if I'm in like a bubble per SE.
Yeah, but I think it's like it's a really big song.
And. Again, especially in such like a
low stakes, Yeah, I think she could just be snatching it.
But again, it comes down to, is Gaga going to be darling this
year? Is the Academy going to just put
everything on Gaga? Where are they going to go?
Well, I can't go for Gaga for everything.
But I think like, I just feel like there's a lot of talk about
her behind the scenes and like, this is her last album.
Yeah, just like. I I feel like that's a topic of
debate like. Because Gaga's never won out of
the year. No, which was so cool to see.
I think I'd cry. Yeah, I I think I'd cry if she
won. Also kind of annoying to be with
Mayhem. Also, Beyoncé and Gaga are
winning back-to-back. A dream.
Actually. And then Telephone Part 2 comes
out. Oh my God, no.
Yeah, I would. I would love to see Lady Gaga
take home album of the year. I do think she's done a bit of
work, but I'll take my ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Apparently, like it's like kind of being debated between her and
Kendrick Lamar. I can't really speak too much on
Kendrick Lamar because I just it.
Was not like class this year. I can't remember.
Oh my. God it might be that might be
getting some of. The I think it's the one with
scissor Luther I've never heard. I just like know it.
Yes. Because I think he, yeah.
Because I think he released an album like back-to-back maybe.
Maybe not like US was last year. I have to cheer.
I yeah, I I don't know. But no, I have.
I just have the sense that album of the year category is going to
be a lot of albums. I'm like, I don't know you or
just how like. Oh no, not like this was last
year. Oh, OK, Five awards.
Write it up. Yeah, I mean, I saw like,
productions like Elton John. Apparently he released an album.
Oh. Yeah.
Yeah, I think. But what what I've seen as
between Gaga and Kendrick Lamar, I think Sabrina was like being
talked about before she released an album.
Well, I also think again, the cut off being August 30th and
her releasing August 29th and I think that's coincidence.
No, like, I think she, she or her team or whoever pushed it
out with purpose to be in this Grammy cycle, whether that was,
you know, Taylor being like, well, I'm releasing next year
and then he'll be like, cool. August 29th.
Yeah. Yeah.
Like we've got to be in a different cycle.
But yeah, I, yeah. I don't know if Sabrina will.
Yeah, I don't think she'll be anything.
I'm just not saying like the the critical like buzz around.
It there's not a lot of critical buzz, I don't think the
songwriting's strong enough and a lot of them to carry on to
like an actual songwriting credit in terms of the Grammys
and the Academy. I don't think the vocal
performances are strong enough for the Grammys of the Academy.
I don't think the sound of the album is strong enough.
And it's just, it's not even that it was a terribly bad
album. Maybe we should review that as
well, But it's not even that it was a terribly bad album, it's
just not exceeding in anyone. Field It's like what Sophologist
said. It's not a bad album, but it's
not an excellent album. No, it's OK And that's OK.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I feel like her being awarded last year and then kind
of delivering a very similar product, the the the comedy, I
can see just being like, OK. Maybe she'll submit for comedy
album. This is a side joke because King
Axel here was not liking the album at all and then like 2
weeks later they came to me and they were like wait no I get it
now. It's like comedy, and I was.
Like it's like comedy. Yeah, she's just having a laugh.
And now I'm like snoozed on it again.
Yes, it's hard. That's nice.
I mean, when you make a character of yourself, you
become the joke. So the only things we can do is
laugh. Sometimes in life, all you could
do is laugh. I mean, we kind of forgot to
talk about wicked. Do we think wicked?
Now Wicked would be Part 1. That's right, because Part 2
doesn't come out at all. I don't think it could do any of
the like Visual Media Awards because it's not original
content. Yeah, but also if it can.
Even. Be I don't even know if it's the
album cover. I don't know, yeah, I actually
think wicked might just not be literal.
Like full stop. Interesting.
Interesting because I think they're certainly really
counting on next year. Yeah.
Because also with the two new original songs and like it being
when we're spread out, I think in the same way that Gaga's
shotgunning this year, I think Wicked shotgunning next year for
a while. Theatrical, yeah, categories,
yeah. But also I could see Wicked Part
2 getting like potentially pop vocal performance.
I. Don't think Wicked is.
It depends what else comes out. I just don't think Wicked's
doing as well as they thought it would in terms of being a ward
bait. It's hard because I think they
did get snubbed last year in the acting rule.
I, I think there is a little bit of a little, I don't know a word
like ever since Gaga to the Star is born, there's been a trained
off pop stars doing following the same lead to get the Academy
Award. Yeah, actually, I don't even
know if that's the actual case in this because, you know, there
is a history of Ariana being obsessed with Wicked in
particular, and I can see her really wanting that.
Whether or not Gaga's success in A Star Is Born ultimately
determined whether or not they casted a pop star like Ariana
Grande. Potentially, but.
Yeah. I just think Ariana Grande's
performance to kind of sidetrack what the Grammys to the Academy
Awards, I think her performance is quite early, just a mimic of
that. Christian Chenoweth.
Yeah, yeah, I, I. I don't there are no answers to
it. Yeah.
Especially like watching Christian Chenoweth stage
performance, it is incredibly different to what I Underground
is doing. Yeah, yeah.
I think vocally wants to stay really true to Christian
Schumer's, which honestly might hurt her in something like the
Grammys. Well, I have to say yes, yes,
because I also see like a few of the pop duo recording.
I could see them getting a pop duo recording.
Do they don't have an original song?
I'm pretty sure that song has to be original.
I don't know if you can do a cover.
But it's not technically a cover.
I think it would. Fall on me because.
It's never been in the actual Grammys before.
I I think it's just, it can't be something's been put forward on
nominated before. To know.
Because it's not. I don't know.
Yeah. I'm trying to think of.
How the Grammy rules works and interacts with theatre and
movies. It's always a bit strange, yes.
So I guess what to say? Yeah, yeah.
I feel like that's kind of. Yeah, I don't know.
It's, it's, I'm not super excited for this year's Grammys.
I mean, you really am. But like like I said, there
hasn't been a lot of releases. I'm just kind of gunning for
Gaga. Would be cool to see if the game
part of that. Good luck everybody.
Good luck, everybody. You know, I don't know, I feel
like it's going to be Gaga sitting there with a bunch of
kids who aren't like, you know, I don't want to say they're not
ready to win Grammys, but like it's going to be like, it's not
the era of the early twenty 10s or the late 2000s where it was
like star standard, everyone fighting for it.
It's like. Like, I feel like Gaga will be
the Beyoncé. Was it last year's Grammys?
Yeah. Well, the year before.
No, I think the year before when she.
Because it was before before Cowboy caught her and she like
hadn't been seen and she shouted to the Grammys and everyone got
it was like a meeting great with Beyoncé for the celebrities.
Do you remember that? No.
It's when she wore the hat. Oh, was that not Kabukata yet?
No, it was her teasing Cowboy kata.
You're right. I feel like there's Gaga on
this. Because I honestly I think
people were more surprised that she would show up.
Not really nominated or put Ford for any or many awards because I
think she won a non televised one for the Renaissance film,
but she wore the hat and I think people were just surprised that
she would come. Yeah, considering getting
snubbed last year when you run before she had album of the
year. Yeah, yeah.
She was like humility if nothing else.
Yeah, yeah. I think it's up for today's
episode. Yeah, put your paws up,
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