All right guys, it's our final streamed draft of the summer.
We got a $2500 Super League on the NFFC and of course we had to
go out with a bang. Mike Leone joining us.
Alpha plays only. We're headed to Vegas later this
week. But for now, crush this $2500
league. Let's go.
Pat Fryer homo this. Is why This is why I'm hot Anita
hint hand job? Fix your site Jamar L4 Point
Chase. You can't handle the heat.
It looks like we're finally at this point here, right?
All right, we are off to the races.
That's on a rough day. Mike Leone joining us.
How are we doing, Mike? We're doing good.
I see that Pat is asking to have his e-mail linked to the league
as the draft starts. So we're off to a phenomenon,
even though he's already been invited like 9 times and haven't
accepted the initial invites. Leave below.
Yeah. Who are we taking?
As the three wins, not the board.
Yeah, that's where we're taking CMC and hating ourselves.
I think it's what we decided. Last year was taking.
After and hating, our option is we almost have to take CMC,
right? Unless someone wants to reach
for Garrett Wilson, which I'm just like, sure, I don't even
like Garrett Wilson. All right.
And I guess it's CMC by default. I mean, yeah, that was the other
thing. We were like we could get queued
and go wide receiver, but we won't even agree on the wide
receiver. So Mike, will you click C
receive for us? I was trying to add Pat here.
God, he should be top anyways. But just in case.
Thank you. I was like.
I don't know if my brain's in the position to click the
buttons. And then I get hit with the.
Can you pick the player with 12 seconds left?
But I did it. You mailed it, though.
Yeah, No. We forgot to set.
KDS, right. And so we wound up at a spot
that we don't necessarily love, which you know what, that's been
the theme of our August. So the well, the KDS, like when
the league, the league was at like 5 out of 12 but then it
filled fast and it just ran an hour later.
So you had an hour to set your KDS and we didn't check our
happened to just check our emails right at that time?
We gotta talk to Greg. I, I I feel like the KDS should
be, you know, 24 hours. But, like, how much time do you
need to know your drafts a lot. Like how many days in advance do
you really need to know the game plan?
Like, I I don't know. I we we've been caught.
Off guard we should be. We should be getting our KDS.
Well, they think too about the KDS and like some of the things
like when you pick at the 1-2 turn and then you get the 301.
Like some of those followers there have been like very
fragile relative to some of this news.
And with like JT and Cooper Cup, like some of the optimal KDS
slots have slightly shifted too because of that.
So it has been a bit of a moving target with all of these things
and now as well I think changes things even more.
Yeah, when we did the draft with Josh and Essential, I was giving
him crap for setting the 1:10 as their top one.
Like a lot of crap. I think that might be my top one
now. I think you wanna be.
It would probably be 1-12 maybe, but I think you wanna be at the
back end with the third round reversal.
It's pretty fun. So I've tried about three
different invite codes here to get on this league and.
None of them are working. Well, I'm deleting the old one
and I'm sending the new one to you.
I also think like 4, like the draft spot from 4 is getting
progressively worse with the injury.
And there was like like it wasn't so bad at the time it
happened, but then it's like we're even more scared about
cop. And oh, by the way, Kelsey's
hurt now. Still way better than 55.
Is the one way better than? 5 used to be good and now it's
not. It's 6 Barkley going in the
first. What?
Oh, yeah, Yeah. Yeah.
Cuz ackward. Yeah.
I think we probably would have just taken wider C, right?
Yeah. Almond Raw and Garrett just go
ahead of a J Bryan CD. Now that's just it.
Like, I mean you go back to our mini soaps and we took a J.
Brown CD at the 111 and 202 and felt like that might be unique
by the end of it. But I mean we, I think Almond
Raw wanted to turn. Garrett went after our 202 and
we're like, yeah, well you know, we'll get exposure to those guys
in the second round throughout draft season.
You can't. 110 now It's crazy, yo.
Yeah, for people coming in, this is a this is a selfcontained
league. A few of the other most recent
drafts we've done on NFFC are the prime time, which has that
$250,000 top prize. This is just a $2500 twelve team
league. We've enjoyed doing these
leagues with Leonie the past few years.
We won the 5K two years ago, hopped in the 10K last year,
came up short. Thanks Kyle Pitts for that.
I think that didn't we or did we come in 3rd?
I think it was second. Was that second or third?
We did make a late charge. OK, second.
I was just so spoiled by our victory that I forget.
It felt like a bit. We grinded all year, so it,
like, didn't. Feel good.
But yeah, we came in second so that'd be great.
I completely had undersold that in my mind.
I was like we bricked out. I forgot that we got second.
So we're gonna see if we could keep our hot streak going in
these self-contained 12 person leaks.
Yeah, Ben and I the year before won that weird fantasy world
tournament. Like for fantasy world theory
saying yeah we're like thing. So everything with the FFPC
Playoff Challenge has gone well as far as.
Group we just roll our winnings in and then lose that.
I swear that's our biggest edge though.
I'm I'm it is. We have the biggest edge in that
toner this we That's the end task.
But yes, some people say we draft our our high stakes teams
like $12.00 dynasty leagues. We draft our $2500 teams like a
$77 league. Is the New Criticism levied
here? It's optimal.
We're good. We were talking about in
Discord, though, how like this draft season's a little
different. Like as far as it's harder to
just draft straight ideologically, just with some of
the ADP and stuff, but in these leagues, we've almost been
forced to draft that way the past two years.
Like we took the we had JT and Swift two years ago when we
dominated. Last year we had Eckler and
Breese and then took a tight end detour like.
So we're we're prepared for a difficult draft from the wide
receiver standpoint. We got a blueprint, Calvin.
Really 203. Yeah, Leody had you floated
Ridley as potentially a guy in the third for us if we didn't
know who to take. No, the 2nd, that was the 2nd,
Okay. I was like, no, he was not.
Yeah, he was not like, yeah, our pick in the second here, we were
saying it's like, I mean hope a wide receiver falls and then
there's a tear break and it's like, well, do you kind of.
Reach a little wide receivers here, quarterback, and then
there's three wide receivers in four picks until we're we're up
here. So it'll be really interesting
to see how that breaks. Yeah, this is where the Cup
Kelsey stuff just bugs us there. Kenner is a great pick for us.
Yeah. Yeah, yes.
So where should I? I think by 80P too.
Well, that's an 80P sneaker upper.
I think at the 3-4 turn it's in play if we get kind of stuck.
But like even there, I don't think it's a stamp dunk.
But maybe I'm being too scared. I don't know.
Why? This feels like the worst.
Type of tournament or type of thing to take him in because
like in in basketball mania or you could talk yourself into
like hey, if this is all smoke like I'm going to get one of the
cheapest price, I'm going to get rid of combos.
But here I I just want to win the league and I don't know,
it's pretty risky pick. Slight 80P value for, you know,
a little bit more upside isn't really like, what's that extra
upside really giving you with the extra risk, you know?
Yeah, yeah, and I don't know. I mean 30 year olds, wide
receiver. Seeing a hamstring specialist
just is scary. I find that scary.
So we get Devonta, right? I think Devonta RT.
Devonta for me. Yeah, I'm good.
He's been sliding a little bit more too.
I doubt in this room he would come back, but if one would, it
would definitely be Higgins. So let's grab Devante here.
I got it, Mike. So we start CMC, Devante Smith.
We were kind of sweating there because Waddell Ridley and
Devante Adams went off after Chub went at the 1-2 turn.
And then we got a Derek Henry pick, a Tony Pollard pick, Alave
goes. Then Travis Kelsey goes to team
five with Eckler. And so we were kind of just
hoping to get one of Higgins, Devante Smith.
And so Higgins does immediately come off the board after us to
the the Tyree kill drafter. Yeah, if some of these teams
were ordered differently, easily Henry and Kelsey could have gone
after us, which would have left us.
I think we would have had to take quarter.
I don't think would you guys have taken quarterback or gamble
on Kelsey. Tough question.
I think I would have probably preferred quarterback in that
decision. I guess you could go like
Metcalf or Debo, but I think I would have gone quarterback.
Yeah, yeah. I think I'd probably go
quarterback, too. Chat, but hopefully we didn't
have to decide. Yeah, it would have to vote.
So cup comes off there. That's nice.
I was, yeah, I was interested to see whether we would have to
have that decision in the third. We got a couple pics till we're
up pat, the chat's been asking. You're in your new place.
I had kind of a rough day, but how you doing in SoCal?
I had an almost awesome day, right?
All of our stuff arrived. We're finally like, I'm at my
desk right now, my normal desk. I got my monitors here.
Now those monitors are off, unfortunately, because I'm a
fucking idiot and I spilled a full thing of water all over my
desktop computer. Like, I got settled.
I was like, here we go. Finally going to get some work
done. Finally back just the way I like
everything. And then I was all
discombobulated. I had been drinking out of this
like stupid water bottle because we didn't you know, like this is
like my my only cup that I've had for like 5 days and I've
like filled it up with water, but it's like all like, you
know, it's not like very sturdy. So I like kind of accidentally
like tapped it and it was like just immediately.
Spilled so much. Water on my desktop.
And. Yeah, so I turned it off and
then I like, took it apart. I cleaned it and I like, tried
to get like, but there was water in it.
And then I tried to turn it on and that was probably, I don't
know if that was stupid, maybe it wasn't, but it didn't turn
on. And I took it to like the
computer specialist repair guy, He turned it on, did turn on
there, and they turned it off real quick.
He's like, all right, I'm going to take a look at it and yeah,
we'll see. But I I'm back on the laptop,
which is a little bit of a frustrating part of the day,
but. Zooming out.
Pretty. Sweet things are pretty, yeah.
How you feeling in in the soak out weather in the new place and
everything? I'm feeling good.
You know I'm I'm, I've been in Brooklyn for three years.
I was in Lower East Side of Manhattan for like 7 years.
Before that. I bounced around New York in
various neighborhoods. At no point that I have a fig
tree in my backyard. We do.
We do have that here. There's a fig tree, fig tree
that is producing an insane amount of figs.
The neighbors are like, hey, like we got lemons.
There's oranges around the corner.
It's like go up. Sounds like shared fruit trees
here. Yeah, yeah.
So it's been nice. We got Chad in our league for
the third year in a row. I believe he's the one who won
it last. Year Yelp Yeah, Chad.
We're always battling with Chad and these.
Ryan asked the question here, which QB do you have first and
second in this format? He has a prime time tomorrow and
QB might make sense in the third.
Mahomes and Alan better than Hertz with this scoring.
Do you guys have thoughts on that with the six point passing
TD? I think I'm all close.
I'd probably still take Hertz, but I think it's pretty close.
I mean, depending on who you go. I mean, Alan and Mahomes, I I
think. I think the way he wrote it out
is the way I would do it. Yeah.
Yeah, me too. I think, and a lot I think too.
I mean, you can use stacking as the tiebreaker.
You know, like if we were choosing between Devante Smith
or we had Devante Smith and we're choosing between Alan and
Hertz, I mean, we're definitely going Hertz.
In that scenario, guys, that was we're on the clock.
That was the 7th running back off the board.
That is insane. We have Jamir Gibbs here at 309.
I I would, I would take Gibbs. I think I would too if you guys.
But then we because we kind of have a flattish wide receiver
tier and then but then we kind of have to give up on the Bree
stream and four I think and just see if someone's.
Super fun or just? Relaxes live.
Yeah, I'm fine with Gibbs, but I would still want to take Breeze
potentially in four, depending on what the other options are.
But what should we take Gibbs and then talk about it?
Let's do Gibbs, Yeah. Yeah.
I personally this is what. The room is giving us as running
back. No running backs went between
our pick and Devonta until Jacob's right before us.
He knows well. So one thing that's kind of fun
about, you know, we've taken a lot of like Breeser in this
range, like kind of getting like A2V2 on like the wide receiver.
We don't normally take in the early 4th, whether that's a
Drake London or Christian Watson or something like I kind of
don't mind that from just like a portfolio perspective.
Yeah, I don't mind it either. The, my, my only take on Brees
was like, there's some chance that, like someone really falls
in five, you know, for hitting the home run at running back,
right? That's a good point.
Yeah, that's a really good
point. It locks us out structurally.
Yeah. Yeah, we'd be done.
I mean, there's a chance that no.
One we have enough. Explosions we could go.
One draft without it, right? Raising every draft?
Man. It's a pretty simple game.
Plan. Pretty simple game plan.
Have we taken Gibbs in one of our high stakes?
At least that we have some, yeah.
This feels good. This is definitely fun.
This this is right on brand for us the last two years.
The unexpected running back pivot.
It's literally the DeAndre. Swift pick from two years ago.
It's the same role. Yeah, exactly.
So right after us. So we start CMC, Devante Smith,
Jamir Gibbs right after us from Andre and then DJ Moore to the
Chase Mahomes, and now we're trying to see what the Justin
Jefferson Cooper Cup team is going to do out of the one hole
here. There's also, I mean, I'm just
going to float it, but there's like quarterback too.
If we had T Burrow would have been kind of interesting with
this with the scoring, but probably not.
There's Burrow and Lamar. Yeah, I just have found the way
we've been, you know, wanting to scoop up the running back values
while while also staying on pace at wide receiver it.
It's really hard to also feather in the QB there, and we often
like the tight end to like get around 6:00 and 7:00 at time, so
it can get tricky mixing goes, which is a nice pick for us
here. Any running backs that come off
the board are probably kind of good picks for us.
Yeah, at this point we want to see green, but I kind of.
Genuinely A shocking outcome here where I mean to have
Pollard have already gone off by the middle of the second, but
when a lava went at 207. You don't get another running
back until Jacob's at 3098. I mean, that's a long stretch
considering. I mean, there was also a lot of.
Receivers in the first round, like A J.
Brown was gone. Like all these guys were gone by
12. Jalen Waddell went 202, where
they went 203. That was interesting right now.
So I think it's Breece Gamble or I probably lean wide receiver
here. I think there's like 3 guys I
would pick. I know we have one that we've
agreed upon. I don't know how much we're
saying out loud if people are watching the stream or not, like
what we're what our protocol is there.
There's definitely one wide receiver where you will have no
argument for me to go wide receiver.
My big question is, do you guys think this room is going to
continue to be a bunch of piss boys or do you think they're
going to pivot and take a lot of running backs?
Because if 20 running backs starts here, I don't know if
those are going to be true 0 running backs or yeah, if
they're going to, right. It's so hard to tell is that
that might have been a timeout there.
That has to be a. Timeout.
He let him all. The way to 0 this is kind of
late for Burrow. A timeout would have given him
JT. Well he maybe had a queue set
that feels like a timeout. I don't know how you do that in
in this league. I mean, I don't.
I don't. I mean, it's a standalone 12
team league and if you think Mahomes and Herbert with the
extra passing numbers are oh shit, you're right.
Time. I'm.
I'm sorry, P I've totally spaced that he had Mahomes already that
that's definitely the time out because that's Chad.
No, I don't think there's not any way Chad's doing that.
I think, yeah, we agreed on that ahead of time pretty much in
this exact spot. So I'm London over Breeze.
Yeah, yeah, I think. London makes more sense for the
structure. Yeah, yeah.
I think it just gives us more flexibility.
It does. It pushes more running backs
down to. I mean that increases the odds
that you know a pick we like in five and running back or 6 or
whatever comes back. Yeah, Herbert was auto.
I wonder if we're gonna. I haven't seen anything in the
chat. Yeah, next time that happens, we
should pick fast. I I'm serious because I I like
if he read, does his pick. I don't think he can take
someone that's off the board, you know what I mean?
Yeah, right. Like he could.
We're waiting. And then they pause it.
He could take London. Yeah, cut throat.
Chad's put enough money. He's not getting drinking.
We're not the only one treating this like a $77 late, guys.
They're talking about it in chat now, so we're gonna we'll see
here Aaron Jones is. A good pick?
Well yeah. Although talk about get behind
that, wide receiver Eckler, Kelsey Jacobs.
Aaron Jones. It's gonna.
Be tough. The tricky thing about him
changing it now is anyone between here and there could
have said well. Now I want.
Herbert, so you don't have to roll the whole thing back.
I don't, I don't think we can roll this back.
The the train is like, I think the general protocol is like he
makes a different pick. And then it's like, did you want
Watson or Herbert? OK did you want London or.
And then you just kind of go 1 by 1 until either Herbert's gone
or. I mean, it's sloppy, but I don't
know, it doesn't seem like they're stopping.
I mean. Just chat commented in the chat.
No, but I mean. There's a number provide line,
yeah. There's a number.
Provided that I should have. Saved my phone just in case
something weird happens to us and then we can just call like
right away. Yeah, the so our start here.
CMC Devante Smith. Jamir Gibbs.
Drake London. We're all confused cuz Chad, one
of the most decorated highstakes players, took two elite
quarterbacks through 4 rounds. Mahomes in Round 2, Herbert in
round four. But it did appear the clock got
bled until the last second on the Herbert pick, who was top of
the queue there? But who knows?
You're right, Peter, because it's got the A for auto in the
draft history. It's weird that he had Herbert
in his queue though, right? Yeah, ADP wise, he wouldn't have
been the pick because he's not just picked, yeah, by ADP.
You're right. And he already took the homes.
Unless he got like kicked off like like real.
That's what confused me. Is like he wouldn't have been
the pick by ADP. And also, like if you already
had Mahomes, why does he have Herbert in his cute like it's
it's sort of well. The RP gamble doesn't totally
pay off. I mean, I think it was some
chances, but I thought there was some chance either Breece or ETN
went, just the way I've seen some of these drafts go, but
they both don't even make it to the fifth.
Yeah, I I still like, you know, the, you know, you could play
the two V twos there, right? Like it's.
I don't know. Well, I guess it's not even
really to be too, because Debo and Alan were already off the
board. So you're like DJ Moore, Breese
Gibbs, London or whatever. But just it feels weird to not
have a share of Gibbs in our portfolio and not that that
precludes us from taking Breese there.
But man, I just think it's okay. I think, what draft without
Breese here? No, I I agree and I'm.
I'm sad to lose them for sure, but you know, I don't know if
we're gonna get some running back value in the 5th that's
gonna make us feel good about passing on briefs.
Cuz I think if we don't I'm probably gonna like the two V2
you know of like London, you know whatever else we get or
briefs and whatever else we get. I probably for the briefs side,
but like yeah, we kind of got to give herself that chance a
little bit I think and the chance of of a running back
coming back slide. Yeah, of the slide, I agree.
And like four side too. Like if all the wide receivers
go and you've got Breese, it's like, yeah, then you're like, I
think like I was the only thing I was gonna say, worst case
scenario, we wind up going like receiver, receiver here and
we're really happy through six we have 4 receivers and two
running guys. That's what you wanna be in this
format anyway, right? Yeah, yeah.
But it is starting to go running back heavier.
I thought for sure Dobbins would be there in 5, possibly even 6.
But I mean in some ways that's okay if we can start getting.
I mean we might end up finding out right receiver.
Yeah, the way these drafts have shaken out for us, there tends
to be a decent running back in like 5-6 and seven.
You know that. You that you end up liking
whenever you want to pivot there.
There's one that I like for sure, but.
Yeah. Well, we're asking so that just
to defend myself in the chat real quick.
If we had gotten Tyreke at four, I would have been pounding the
table for breeze. OK, chat.
I think we would have gone breeze.
Yeah, we would have. I think we would have too
because it would be you're saying Tyreke, Devante, Gibbs,
Gibbs. I think for sure we're going
breeze there. Yeah, no question.
But it's kind of having to be flexible with being in that four
slot when then CNC chat commented in the chat yet or is
like no? No.
I mean, there's no update, I guess.
I mean, we're just rolling, I guess.
Josh said Chad is in in in Dwayne's Prime time right now.
I think the Fantasy Life guys are streaming and he's so he's
just multi tabling. He's always multi tabling, once
surprised that he's in several others, honestly at the.
Same time and that's that's where you run into these if
you're multi tabling like that like.
Wow. Dude, this, this teammate.
We love this teammate. So the Michael Pittman, yeah.
About, yeah, the, the. Old.
Henry Naji Pittman build is you know not something where annoyed
to see. Yeah, I really enjoy the the
chat roasting me for being not bullish enough on Brisa well.
Someone in the chat too doesn't like understand like how a
portfolio. Works.
And when you have literally 10s of thousands of dollars, you
don't want that all tied up on one running back coming back.
Well, some of. US get the free world they hear
more than others Pat. Portfolio aside, like, I mean
there's. Intricacies to each draft.
You can't just, yeah, yeah. You can we've we've played fast
and loose with some of the running back stuff and we've
also had drafts where we have to select Jacoby Myers, so.
You know. That's true.
So that's not, that's not. That's right.
This team seven's got a really nice team.
I mean those are all guys we would have taken at those pics
potentially, yeah. So looking at the teams behind
us, we're about to be on the clock.
We got the team who hasn't taken a wide receiver up and then the
teams behind us, there's the three QBs and they're pretty
balanced. So I could see them going any
direction we're on the clock Locket goes, do you guys want to
grab Kenneth Walker here and then just pound wide receiver,
That would be my preference. That's Walker, guys.
I was thinking about is that's the guy you were talking about,
Leonie, right? Yeah, that's the running back I
like. There's like 2 receivers I like,
too. And I'd also be OK like you're
just getting both of those. But I'm fine with Walker.
You guys have any thoughts on like the two V twos of like wide
receiver here, like Javante Williams coming back versus
Kenneth Walker here and wide receiver coming back?
I think I'm going to like the two V2 with Walker personally
all. Right.
Let's take, let's, let's go, Walker.
Are you good with that, Gretch? I am, yeah.
I don't think we're, I don't think I'm going to be on the
same 2 receivers as Leone even. So I think Walker's the one
that. We would agree on.
That's the other thing. We're going to have to, we would
have to. I'm like 100% sure.
I don't even want the same receiver as Leona here.
I It's funny. I got Pat.
The receiver I want, I got Pat to say is like a good pick,
exactly where we are. And now?
Now he's faced with the actual decision.
Well, but I never. I don't take him over another
wide receiver that's available here, like, ever.
And I put a reach across the aisle wide receiver in the queue
to maybe we could all join together around.
That can you put something in the chat?
Can we can we actually talk through these?
I think we can. I mean, Chad's clearly not
watching. So we're good now.
I I have Kirk by a mile here, but you're right here writing
threads about Christian Kirk. Yeah.
Oh, God, no. That's not who I wanted there.
I don't. I thought you were going to say
Hopkins. Oh, Hopkins went.
I missed that. So this was the I put Dotson in
as the like. Dotson would have been one of my
two big ones there. And I you I you I think I use
fine. Here I have I would have taken
IU over Dotson. I feel like I you that you guys
probably feel about Kirk. Like I'm not going to quibble
about IU. Get this.
I have a pretty big gap between Kirk and IU if you're talking
1V1. But aside, like if you
eliminated Kirk from the conversation, I think IUK is
definitely. The best wide receiver available
right now and I think it's fair, I have them in the same tier.
So just thinking through the like, I mean, is Kirk's gonna
have like 40 more targets than IU?
I have IU towards the top of it, Kirk towards the bottom, and
it's one of my biggest wide receiver tiers.
It's pretty, that's where. That's how I basically have it.
I don't know if I buy that. Yeah, I don't really buy that.
I'm like I don't know the Jacksonville optimism is is
strong. Kirk came off the field in the
in you know 2 outer shooter shots.
They're going to. Be all I got.
If I hear that one more time, I'm going to lose.
I know they're going to be all alone personnel the whole time.
It's not going to matter. But Zay Jones is going to get
targets. Evan Ingram's going to get
targets. Obviously Redley's going to get
targets. Like I think it's going to be
relatively. Flat in that offense.
Well, he might be. Flat.
But I think there's literally just those guys.
Yeah, that's how they played it last year.
They didn't rotate in anyone else.
So that that's helpful. But I think Ridley, there's a
chance that he just is an alpha. You know, I think the market
very is like overconfident that that's the case, but I get why
they are excited about it. Did you say 40 more targets?
Yeah. I mean our base projections is
like a 20 to 25 target gap. I mean, Kirk goes anyway, so
it's moved now. Mine's 14.
I just pulled up, but I mean. But I also think we have like.
We've like, we've capitulated a lot on Christian Kirk's target
share and we still just have him like very, very good.
But I think, I think in. I think part of it for me is
that people just don't realize, you know, how many fantasy.
Receiving points there's gonna be for Jacksonville.
Like there's I took him in a big dog today.
You know, I'm not, like ideological about it.
I just. Let's go, let's go.
I mean, it's moot here, cuz he's gone.
So I think we all agree it's Iuke, right?
Are you comfortable with that, you McCaffrey?
Is everyone comfortable with that for sure, Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't see a receiver
that's even really close. If I'm being honest.
I was looking at the next. This feels like a clean tear,
breakout wide receiver that we caught there.
I love this 2V2 now on Walker IUK Versus, even if it was like
and someone else. Potentially it would have been
Jovante. Would have been the running.
It would have been yeah, yeah, Walker, I thought we were doing.
I was thinking the breeze one would be probably breezing.
Greeson. I used to be Breeson Dotson
versus London and Walker. Yeah, Breeson Dotson versus
London. Walker.
But I I wouldn't have wanted Dotson there.
So it would have gotten Harry as to what we actually did,
Breeson, Kirk versus London and Walker.
You guys, I know you could have sold me out.
Breeson. Kirk, you could have gotten me.
All because of hating Kirk. That's how much you like
Breeson. But.
I think it worked out pretty well overall and.
I think we know what we want to do next, for sure.
Yeah. So through six rounds, CMC,
Devante Smith, Jamir Gibbs, Drake, London, Kenneth Walker,
Brandon Iuk, Jacqueline Hyde waffling back and forth between
running backs and wide receivers.
Some love for Team 5 here. Yeah, the piss and yellow teams
always get rave reviews around here.
Stefan Diggs, Crystal Lava, Debo Samuel, DeAndre Hopkins, Justin
Fields and other team on that team, they like.
Team five they like. Team 50, that's a bit.
That's a bit John at the Taylor goes off more to the 0 RB
drafter. I mean if he comes back in Week
5 like that's a that's gonna be a hard team to beat.
When do you think he comes back? I don't know.
I have no idea. Yeah, I just don't do either.
I think the Colts already like the way that I wrote it up and
and I still kind of stand by this, the Colts already showed a
willingness to take on additional risk, sort of to be
idealistic and to prove a point. Because I think by doing the PUP
thing, I mean, they could have just activated it.
They could have just cut like, you know, Dion Jackson or or
Zach Moss or somebody in another position, right?
An extra tight end or an extra linebacker and activated him,
but they went to PUP route, which immediately locks him out
for four games. And then when Jeff Wilson goes
on IR, think about that. If he wasn't definitely out for
the first four games, you maybe have more leverage over Miami at
that point. Yeah, yeah, I think.
The waddle stuff though, it just makes me, it makes me skeptical
that a trade was ever close at all.
Yeah, it doesn't sound like it was Michael Daniel was saying
what's his name? Greer, or whoever the GM is
would bring it across my desk if it was close, but as far as I
know, it's not close. Basically, he was saying that
the coach's perspective in media.
Yeah, so they're. Just doesn't sound like it was
ever like a strong. I don't think they took it
seriously. I think they think they're
originally right. People were like maybe they're
just kind of saying, sure, go go find 3 first round picks and
you'll get traded. But like, they're just playing
hardball that way. And I think that must have been
what it was the whole time. They were never serious.
Why put him or both. Why put him on pup?
And I know people said maybe he's hurt, but the whole thing,
it locks him into missing games, which only hurts everything.
Yeah, yeah, it hurts their hand. I don't know why they would do
that. I think one reason to do it
would be that if they leave him on PUP all season, he doesn't
accrue a year. Can they actually do that,
though, without cause? I don't know.
I don't know if he's like, let me pass this physical.
Like, I don't know how they're like you better not let him pass
the physical, Doc. I kind of love that, like how
that shit works, but it's like. A legal issue at certain.
At a certain point, well, yeah, right.
This feels pretty shady, right? That's the thing.
If they're doing it. Actually trade him.
He can't get hurt during these four weeks.
But yeah, but you could just do the Deshaun Watson thing and
like, have them active and not, you know?
Play them right then, you. Have to leverage?
Well, no. Earth, say, is such a wild part
that there's like no applying logic to it.
It just makes no sense to lock if a contender missing four
games. Yeah, exactly.
If a contender loses their starting running back to an ACL
in week one, like, we don't want to see that.
But on week two, being able to say, well, we can trade you
Jonathan Taylor, and he can be up to speed for Week 3 or Week 4
is yeah, an advantage. Also, like if you're trying to
trade a guy you don't want people to be worried he's
seriously injured. So putting like Puffer 4 to
games like, now you gotta be like, no, no, Like we're just
dicking around when he's totally healthy.
Like so. I mean, once you understand all
of that and think through it and it doesn't really make sense,
like, then the risk of him not playing for a long time to me
becomes more real. Because it's like they're not
acting logically. And once they're not acting
logically, that's that's exactly why I feel I'm like Ration.
We have left the world of the rational.
And at that point, like, how am I supposed to predict what's
gonna happen? And isn't there an element of
this conversation to of like? The the Colts aren't trying to
win this year. I mean, they might say they are,
but they're not a playoff team, much less a Super Bowl
contender. Like, what incentive.
I mean, they're going to be trying to get a better draft
pick, right? Like, did they even want JT to
play this year? I mean, I think, I mean you saw,
I'm sure you guys saw Ballard's. I mean, what a little petulant
bitch he was like, I mean, it was unbelievable.
Like, he's like, oh, did did Andrew Luck not have?
Did he, was he was he hurt by not having a good running back?
It's like, you know, Andrew Luck retired, right?
The organization screwed things up so bad.
It's like. Dude, what are the biggest
surprise moves in the history of the NFL?
He retired in the middle of like August because he couldn't get
healthy because you guys messed his whole career up like, which
to be fair to Ballard, was pretty.
I mean, wasn't Gregson really responsible for most of that?
So I I don't think Ballard. That wasn't on him.
But I mean, I don't know. To invoke Andrew Luck is like
somehow a sign of something positive.
You guys, that's like a. Huge stain on the Cults
organization. And there's such a divergence
between some of the sharp teams and not sharp teams in this
draft, yeah. Yeah, so we are started the
seventh round. Some names that have gone off
the board since we took Brandon, I, UTJ Hawkinson, JTJSN, Gabe
Davis, Cammakers, Javante Williams, Jordan Addison,
Alexander, Madison, Dallas Goddard at the beginning of the
7th, followed by Zay Flowers and Dalvin Cook.
Here I think we're going to, you know knock on wood still be in a
decent spot to to get a wide receiver we like here in the
seventh. Oh, we're going to get one we
like. Are we going to get one we agree
on? It seems.
Seems unlikely. I'm looking at who's in the
queue. Yeah, I guess there's some maybe
split guys here, maybe some that are a little long in the tooth
at the white. I don't have, like, I guess I
don't see us having huge debates on these guys.
I don't know. We'll see.
Flash forwards I mean. 1 minutes from now?
Yeah, maybe. Maybe I'm way off on where
Leone's at. What are you guys talking about?
What position are we looking at? The the impending argument we're
about to keep kickers. Yeah, I'm still bummed that we
didn't get JS. We never really talked about
this, but I. Think we're all kind of hoping
he'd come all the way back, which it just didn't happen. 3
pics later, he what? Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I was hoping. Hoping one of the rookies came
back. I didn't think JSN would, but I
thought one of them might and they did not.
We'll see what Team Seven does here because he, this drafter
has drafted all players. I'm pretty sure we collectively
like him on raw. Tony Pollard, Keenan Allen,
Breece Hall, Chris Godwin, JSN. Actually, Pat doesn't like Chris
Godwin, but other than that I wouldn't have taken him there.
But I it's more like I would have probably taken it.
John just left. Yeah, Shawn's #1.
Zero or V guy. I don't mind.
If he's got a solid. Team that's He's got a team
that's like feels similar to the teams we've drafted the last
couple years drafting on Sean's ranking.
Wow. Rashad, White and Eric across
the board. We're on the clock.
I don't even. I'm like afraid to even say who
I would pick here. It's Mike Evans you that you
want to say? No, it's.
It's. Hollywood Mike Evans would
actually be who I would want. I'm really out on the Cardinals
offense. I think it's just such a tough
situation. I I am true and I think it's
been overpriced in. But.
If Pat likes Mike Evans, we could do that.
There's also Quentin Johnson. If we just want to say hey let's
take that archetype we could just that's the the rookie that
when you said all the rookies. Are gone.
I was like, what about him? He's.
Still, why don't we see QJ and then see which veteran comes
back? Yeah.
I think that probably makes, I think you're gonna get bigger
swings like QJ potentially next round like there's kind of the.
Who say the name Tony work Spade man?
I'm not. I'm not convinced by Tony.
Let's do. QJ I vote QJ.
I vote QJ. We're running out of time.
You got it. Yeah, I'm not convinced.
I mean, yes, I think you could say cadarius, Tony is, he's
always a big swing. But I mean, when you talk about
the probabilities of that hitting, I mean, I don't know if
I could, Kyle pits right there. I was thinking about it on the
way back. But there's no tight ends behind
us. We got a lot of receivers.
We like coming back. Yeah, we could.
I put. I had to put.
Pits in the queue. I mean, he was.
I thought we maybe wanted to double up.
Here, given we have London, I don't want London and pits
actually. That was the other thing was
like a tie breaker. I mean, I guess like if you have
enough receiver depth, they're just kind of like, well, let's
take pits in London and whoever does awesome does awesome and
we'll figure it out. But we're not exactly super
great at wide receiver. I am.
We we've let.
Arthur Smith Rude. Enough of our of our joy in the
last year. We don't need, we don't need
more. Of it on this do.
I I'm not. I'm not anti Kyle Pits here.
But I do think the guys Pat mentioned I like, I do like.
I do think Hollywood's pretty good.
But I mean just I'm fine. I'm fine with Hollywood coming
back, but I like the idea of getting QJ or Burks there and
then seeing what comes back. Yeah, my, my issue with QJ is
that I like Bateman and Burke's more than him as far as like the
big swings go. So I was like thinking we could
get like Evans or Marquis is like more of like a rare
archetype, you know what I mean? Like we, you know, feel
comfortable starting the very earlier in the season.
Like we think they're good. The offense is why they're
available, yeah. And then with the big swing, I
shouldn't have led with Tony. I was not a good sales tax as
you said Tony was probably. The wrong guy, cuz he's like low
key like probably not a super high ceiling bet.
He's more of like. Yeah, I know what you mean, but
I think I mean not that QJ isn't a high ceiling bet, he is.
All right. Well, the Pitts decisions out of
our hands now. Yeah, but I mean.
One of. I mean, even if it goes to
Burke's or Bateman, those are. Because you're going to, that's.
Who I would I'm I'm fine with those guys.
My Hollywood pitch would just be that like I think he's actually
good. He earns a shit ton of targets
and he could get traded and like and Kyler could come back
second-half. I just think this is awesome for
him too. There's just more ups.
I'm the market's so scared of Arizona that it's like who's
seen 10 targets a game. Like I don't know.
I guess they could. They could still be very bad,
but like, it could also turn around or.
Just be OK. But I'm also fine given that we
kind of have our starters that if we wanted to just say like
Bateman or Burke's by the, I guess my point is I think Brown
has a little bit of a ceiling too.
It's not just like a floor target well and you're starting
Brown likely over QJ at the start of the season.
Yeah. Well, we're probably going to
start Josh Docks Super. Athletic.
They're not even going to have much pass pulling you.
They're not going to run away. I think I'd be.
I think I'd be Bateman. Well, I think I've made all the
most of. You think we could get him in
the 9th? I doubt.
It yeah, like he's not the way these guys are drafting.
I'm Birch, Bateman and Elijah here above Brown, and I would be
fine with any of those. I don't think Bateman's coming
back, but he's buried just relatively in the queue.
Not saying that's the end all be all, but like he's.
If any of those like I've I'm Burke's or Mark.
He's brown. I guess Birk's is the.
I'd be fine with Burks too. I think Burks is the most
amenable. It seems like Gretch really
doesn't want Marquis and. I'm pretty out on him on this
team. I don't like him at all on this
team. OK, I hate to, I hate to like be
that like hard veto, but I think he's a bad pick for this team.
Personally. The only or.
You could have the record to say that.
I think he's a pretty good pick for this team, but sure.
All right, I selected Burks there.
As the IT seemed like that's where our collective decision
was leaning. So through 8 rounds, CMC Devante
Smith, Jamir Gibbs, Drake One and Kenneth Walker.
Brandon I You, Quinton Johnston in trailing Burks.
Burks I feel it was everyone's second favorite pick there, So
or was he? He might have been my first, but
Leone makes a very compelling case on Marquis and I think he
fit in well, kind of with this squad.
I I hear Leonie's case. I'm not.
I'm not confident that I'm right.
It's just sort of. I was sharing where I'm at with.
It, yeah, I think the market's so priced in the Arizona stuff
by by this price tag. Yeah, it is cheap.
Like he's like he's young. I mean, when I was referencing
this particular bill, yeah, that's my thought was we did go
3 yearly running backs. I mean, we're not a lock to be
flexing running back every time, but we are in all likelihood
flexing running back a lot of the time.
So we're actually not starting QJ week one and right we are
talking about our wide receiver 5 here where I would like to
continue to stack the upside. Yeah, I think my point.
I maybe didn't make well, but I was trying to make was that I
actually think he is an upside pick.
Sure. You did say that, yeah.
Because it doesn't but. Well, you could middle it right
where it could just be this volume play early.
They're on all these negative game scripts, and then Kyler
comes back and the offense actually gets a little exciting.
Yeah. Or they trade him.
You know, Kyler comes back and is good.
They trade him. There's some outs there, yeah.
And at this price you have a lot of, a lot of the risk is is
baked out and you know the target floor is going to be
there at the very least. But if Dobbs starts, I mean,
he's super athletic. Like there's some risk of this
team being like like Chicago and Atlanta play volume last year.
Well, like you just, I mean, even though there's definitely a
risk. That the plays are really this
team is projected to be really bad.
Right. I guess I have them projected to
be really bad. So I'm like and I've like.
That makes sense. I've like, cut Browns like
ceiling odds in half. I've made the team like lowest
in the league in plays and like I've done everything I can.
Yeah, you have them lowest in the league in plays.
I have almost. I mean there's protected be so
bad that I won't be positive than everyone else.
I love how we do this every year.
I'm like scanning the chat where people are, you know, the the
Chargers 4th wide receiver. Like every single year we do
this with super talented rookies who are highly drafted to like
it. In this case, an elite offense
where we try to psych ourselves out with like super noisy things
for preseason, Can't catch the ball running behind this guy.
And every single year these guys come down the stretch, it
absolutely crushed it. It does make I always worry like
the edges get dried up and then I see the QJ discourse.
I'm like, we're still fine guys. Like, we're fine.
We get to do the same thing every single year with these
guys, and people don't want to draft them.
It's perfect. He's stuck behind Palmer Pete.
I appreciate it. It does.
It is funny, non news. Item, though, because it's like,
that's like the default expectation, right?
Right. One.
Yeah. It's literally what Justin
Jefferson was dealing with in week one.
I mean, every single player, Yeah, it happens all the time.
And I mean, he was, he was definitely like a little bit of
a. Low floor prospect I would say,
which makes me like slightly more nervous about it like, but
sure, you know. Look at the players going
around. You know like where no one here
is locked and loaded in this range.
And my thing on him, I mean it's definitely different on Burks.
But when we're talking about the offenses like again, we get back
to like we only when we did the projections pods, like we both
just absolutely love the Chargers offense.
And to get a piece of them, there is something that is like
meaningful to me like there's gonna be a lot of plays like
we're projecting a ton like compared to the Arizona like.
It's not an apples to apples if the chat's going.
Marquis Brown is his better and who's really good?
Quinton Johnson's rookie with a questionable profile.
And what what me and Leone in our projections had was the
Chargers projecting them for the most plays in the NFL
meaningfully, and Arizona projecting for the least
meaningfully. But between the 1st and 2nd and
between the 31st and 32nd? Not even just between you know
them and like the average like. These teams are clearly the.
Top and bottom in terms of projected going into the year,
obviously it's not going to play out exactly that way.
But the range doesn't include Arizona running more plays in
Chicago than the Chargers. Like it's not even.
Possible, I don't think. Yeah, I mean, yeah, and to get a
piece. And by the way, we didn't take
him in the 6th. The chat keeps talking about him
the 6th. We didn't take him in the 7th.
But the late the thing about Johnston is that if he plays
behind Palmer the entire season then I would at that point say
he's probably unlikely to finish his career.
By his rookie contract as a Charger, like he's on, he's like
Nikhil Harry, like that's like that's I think how bad he would
have to be as a first round pick to not be able to play ahead of
Josh Palmer for a large portion of this season.
And the fact that he isn't ahead of him right now as like even
people that were bullish on Quinn Johnson I think would have
said like he's a little bit raw. You know, it's more of a yards
after catch playmaking type of type of guy.
The fact that he's not ahead of Palmer for Week 1 doesn't really
tell us that much. It certainly doesn't rule out
the possibility there's a bust, but it also, I don't think
necessarily makes it all that much more likely than his boom
bust prospect profile did. Yeah, I mean, it's kind of like
if he's good, it's gonna work out.
If he's bad, it's kind of. Which?
Is what, which is the same play as it was in May.
Yeah, yeah, Chad says. He's doing 8 at a time and he he
just messed that up. He's being good spirited about
it. He says he he wanted the quality
option for the free look game. If Mahone struggles, the take A.
Peek that's that's a really funny comment that's that's an
amazing way to handle. It there was a moment when that
pic went through that I was like, did we accidentally sign
up for a Super Flex league? Because I was just like.
And the room is really slacky. Quarterback, yeah.
It was like Greg just buried it in the settings.
It was like, this actually is a $2500 Superflex league.
It says super right up there. Yeah.
Exactly. That's what the Super stands
for. All right, so since we last
picked, we did see Bateman, Cadarius, Tony, a couple of guys
we named off the board. The first QB since Trevor
Lawrence in the six comes off in Tua.
Here, coming back in the 9th or about what, four or five picks
away? Yeah, I'm looking at like if
someone has a strong feeling on Watson.
I don't really, but if you did, I think that'd be acceptable.
I think there's four Archies is still here.
He's still here. Take him if he makes it back.
That's the rule of the show. Anyone.
Anyone makes it all the way back to us, we have.
We've been passing on him since round six.
It feels like he's all kind of. I don't know how you this where
tight end gets weird where I like I love Kincaid and La Porta
but I have a hard time justifying it over like Friar
Muth and Ingram. So I'm just like I'll wait on
tight end because there's still the like almost hope they just
go to to rationalize. We only we're 3 picks away.
I'm hand up, I'm running to the podium for marquees, if you go
out of this team. Like I I'm like this is this
would be. That would give us a nice mix of
archetypes for sure with the three running backs star.
I think he would be a great, I mean.
What When he's got team five, that team, that team that's
definitely and they took Michael.
That's the. Team Michael Thomas and Marquis
Brown last. Round I'm being quiet not
because I disagree, but. Because I No, I knew it was team
Seven. Yeah, Team Seven wasn't gonna
let that go. I would have been running with
you guys to the podium. That would have been fun.
Yeah, I think I. Am I don't think is the one
that's been taking all the. You know.
I like stuff. I like things team stuff and has
a nice team for sure. It's very similar to ours.
So the wide receiver clip just absolutely happened.
I mean, it's Marquis Brown and then.
Yeah. Yeah, so.
It's. Over.
I think I'm kinda into the onesie positions.
I don't know if I I see maybe 1 running back but I I would
gamble on here who's running back a chain we.
We are. Yeah.
But. That's fine.
I don't even know. Which I mean, there's P Ryan
too. But I think I just swing on a
chain because we don't really need P Ryan's boring floor.
Did you? What was the Titan You like
Fryer Moon? I don't.
I want to take Kincaid or Laporta, but I have a hard time
justifying it with Fryer Muthan. Ingram on the board, like
Watson, is better. I was just going to say, what if
we do Watsons and it's so flat? Yeah, I'm fine with gambling on
Watson. It's just we only get.
Then it's a chain, or it's normally on.
Dogs. If you guys are interested in
it, you guys don't. Probably.
It sounds like no one likes him. The injury is a little spooky
right now. Okay.
So Watson or a chain titan's gonna make it back.
Watson or a chain final vote. I think a chain's making it back
too. I say we do, Watson.
Yeah, I'd go Watson, if it's one of those too.
All right. The other receiver that might
actually even go is MIPS. Yeah, I think he's, he's a
decent pick here. I kind of like really like,
like, I think it was kind of hopeful that we could maybe just
get like Jaden Reed, Jalen Hyatt, like next turn, like one
of one of those guys I feel like we'd be.
Interested in Joku with with but I mean.
Mims. Mims has a pretty great
situation. Judy's gonna probably miss week
one, right? They they cut down to three or
four receivers and then claim Phillip Dorset.
It's literally going to be calling something in Mims Week
1. Oh yeah, I know.
I mean, Mims is going to be one of the four highest own players
in DFS. Really the chat chats think we
should have pushed QB for who? We couldn't decide on anyone,
Whoever. Oh yeah.
He's right, but we didn't know who to take.
Chad is right, but we didn't have a.
They're not, though. If you don't know who to take,
then there's no one to push him around.
For right. That's curious.
Yeah, if we were better prepared, Chad is right.
Yeah, if we were better prepared then we were just.
Hoping Marquis would fall in when he didn't, we had no other.
Yeah, there's no other. HN was a good all, but I feel
like on this build I would have rather went tight end or wide
receiver 6 and just kept pushing.
Running I mean. I kind of like Pat brought this
up. No one really acknowledged it,
but like I mean in Jokeu to just go in on Watson that.
Is pretty, yeah. Which the chat's saying you
could have gone in Jokeu first, but that's I mean.
I don't know. Chat like we didn't have 5
minutes on the clock. Okay, because.
We also have like this. If this room wants to take
Nijoku and then give us one of Ingram or Friarmuth in the 10th,
I'm perfectly fine with that. That's kind of what I'm.
Thinking like if we get sniped on in Joeku, we'll take in or
Fryermu, yeah, yeah. But I probably take the
correlation plate. Even though it's not like a
tournament, it's still like. Still making about.
Watson, right? Like it's kind of he's one of
those guys I I really do want correlated, even in this type of
setting, because it's like he's either Watson or he's not, you
know? But if he's not, then you don't
want to be sunk twice on him. And I I actually go the other
way on that exact take. But my application is the
opposite. We're in a 12 team league.
I want him solo because I can. I can play Sam Howell and then
I'm not tied to a shitty tight end too.
Like I would actually literally take Fry with over him.
Even correlated I think, cuz I'm scared of his floor.
I don't want to sing. Yeah, but if you feel tight end
because you got a sweet hit and a six point per passing
touchdown take a shot chat league, then I think that's a
pretty big win. The upside is clear of the
correlation for sure. I'd go either way.
Yeah. I refer me Frank to had.
I think the correlation bet makes sense.
I'd probably slightly lean the correlation that you know it's
still only four out of 12 teams make the playoffs even though
it's it's 12 team lead. But I I go either way.
Yeah, I'll go either way, too. I'm not.
I'm not we. Shouldn't.
Well, I will say is we should have totally taken the tight
end. We can't decide on that.
All are still available as we head around to our next pick.
I mean it's. Pretty clear in hindsight guys.
You really messed this up. We messed this up just
strategically, we blew it. Also Team 5.
Stayed very on brand. They got sniped on Marques but
they went I. Think in in best ball, Najoku is
a no brainer. I think in any main event, prime
time, anything like that and Joku's a no brainer.
I do think in a standalone 12 team with Watson's range, it
gets well. I mean, let me let.
Me throw this out there real quick cuz it's coming up soon.
What are the odds one of these tie ONS comes back?
Yeah. One of the, I would say very low
at this point they're yeah, but as like like Kincaid and La
Porta as backups, is that, is that so bad?
Am I just getting a little too? Too saucy.
I'm not I would you. I want to take Mims or AJ.
I'm with Leonie. I could.
Go for I would be.
Tied in, I'm certainly, I'm certainly amenable to taking
Mims. I mean that.
I could. Let's talk to.
You that I kind of. Think Mims.
I kind of think Mims in like. Let's just cross our fingers
when these tight ends comes. Back do you really think that
Kincaid I I think Kincaid's a bad pick in the 11th that you're
you're that into it. I I took Kincaid in like the 9th
the other day so. Yes, yes.
I am into it, yeah. Kincaid's gonna break fantasy
this year. And I kind of like where you
fan, well, Friar meets go, so changes even come.
Close to breaking fantasy. I'm not sure if he's gonna break
into the top ten tight ends. That's.
I think those things might be a little bit.
I think he's gonna absolutely smash.
I could go Mims or in Joku. I'm leaning a little more in
Joku now with the. Fryer mutation.
It's just going to flip. I'm gonna vote Mims, but I'm OK
with whatever you guys have said.
If the problem isn't. If.
Mims doesn't like Kincaid then like.
But Mims is the last of an archetype, is what I'll throw
in. Like what are you gonna get
instead of me? Yeah, there is another thing I
sort of. Thinking joke.
Who's more likely to come back than Mims?
But I might be. Yeah, 2 seconds.
What do you guys want? I'm in Joku.
I vote in Joku. Pete, I think I'm Mims, but I'm,
I'm deferring. I forced Pete to be the
tiebreaker. So I guess it's Mims through to
1. All right.
Did you like how I sandbagged you on that?
Peter, you vote 1st and that abstained.
I thought you're going to just go with the joke.
Never forget that we were supposed to take David Dujoku to
push Marvin Mims back. Around Pat, I'm going to sell
this high drop in six. Months with preseason Christian
Kirk and Dallas can get or Dalton Kincaid usage stats from
the preseason in six months when they when everybody all their
leads. I mean, Kincaid can certainly
pay off, but it's just it's just not well priced.
You know he's a. What is I?
Look at these fucking guys. He's a part time player.
Like they're gonna run, they're gonna pass.
Mostly out of 11. Still, you know they're not.
No, he he is. He got drafted to play the
passing downs. Yeah, he's a fucking rookie
tight end. It usually takes them several
years to get fully up to speed it.
Usually comes in several. Years to get good at route
running. Like I'm not completely out on
rookie tight ends. I've been drafting a bunch of
them. What like to just price this one
guy up and be like he's the one who's going to smash in a year
where there's. Like he's the one who's going to
smash. He's overconfident.
It feels very overconfident to me, isn't?
Kincaid just a much better basketball pick.
Isn't he going to be super frustrating and managed?
I I don't think I can talk rationally about that.
I think he's going to be a smash.
But I think, but I think by halfway through the season he's
he's going to be, you know pretty clearly top eight start
tight on every single. I I'm just certainly possible.
Titan's weak you know so like if he's pretty good, like he
probably would hit that in that offense.
So it's not it's just I just don't think he's, I don't think
he's priced very well that's that's really what it comes down
to. Yeah.
It's not. I guess I feel like once I get
to this point of tight ends, I'm like, well, it'd be a reach over
and like I would not take him over in Joku.
But like, you're talking like, I mean, we're talking about like
when he comes back, like Dalton Schultz for his kincave, like, I
mean little, little. Yeah, but I'm not taking a lot
of Dalton. Schultz We're not.
Don't. Do a straw man that this is
Dalton gave her Dalton Schultz. Yeah, that's not what I'm
saying. I'm saying wait, I?
Thought you said. I thought we said next, You said
next turn. You didn't think he was.
We weren't taking him there, I would say.
I don't have to take a tight end in round 11, I can take any
other position. I'm not kind of.
I think it makes sense to get at least one of the upside tight
ends at the eleven 12th turn. I would lay only on that, but I
also, I'm saying my thing with Kincaid.
I'm not saying we can't take a tight end at 11.
Yeah, yeah, I got you. We're like, I got you.
We're switching back and forth between the team construction
and the. Overall, yeah, that's fair,
Kincaid. I just sat down and looked at
these receivers and realized the equity for Leo.
Need to say. In about Week 4, this team could
really use Marquis. Brown is high.
The irony of that being is that Dalton Kincaid fits in really
well with this wide receiver room.
Yeah, I know. It's like it's like the one one
guy that like the one rookie I'm higher on then you guys like,
yeah, you finally like a sexy player.
And we're like, yeah, the last time I liked a sexy player more
than you guys on Mr. Bart Chase. That's true.
I don't know more. No.
He, he. He.
Sound.
Like a table for? Alpha play, you were right.
You were very, very high on him. But.
Yeah, you you guys didn't want to take him?
No, you had to. I think you had to twist our arm
a little. It wasn't like we were saying
no. Yeah, it was a reach by.
Timbers Beauty. And I took him and Gretch went.
I guess we're taking chase. That's I don't remember that
one. I want to.
Roll. We're rolling back the tape.
Rolling back the tape that wasn't alpha play and.
Leon, we talked about it. We have.
To we have to concede that. We talked about Chase taking
Chase at that term predraft, I'm pretty sure, but then like guys
I was. Not involved earlier 80 We would
not have taken Chase. That's, that's correct.
If Leone, we would have taken Judy over Chase if not for Leone
in that draft, I think that's. Yeah, you guys, so.
You guys like Chase, obviously. You guys the way I.
Remember, it is anyways. I didn't.
I just. Want to receive?
Asking, Chase and then. You.
Floated Chase. And then we're all like, well,
we can do that, OK? I like, like, no one really put
up a fight. That's how I remember.
I remember him being like you guys, like all you talk about is
fucking rookies. But I mean, there's the chance
our guy makes it back here. This guy's, like the best rookie
ever. Is he not?
And we were like, yeah, he is like the why are we taking him?
And I was like, all right, you're right.
You should take him. That's all I.
Yeah, Those ones we do. I'm definitely the The Bell
Curve meme with Kincaid, though, where I'm just like the fucking
like. You know, the the the mouth
breather side. That's like Josh Allen, Dalton,
Kincaid. We're gonna print money.
That's me for sure, right? I'm still.
Can I ask a question? Wasn't that good of a prospect
or? I'm trying to like suss out like
how much of the Homer element is part of this take.
Let's say QJ wasn't drafted by the Chargers and the Chargers
had Dalton Kincaid. Where would you be at on this
take? That is a good question.
I would like him lower for sure. I I definitely, I for sure have.
I don't have to call Homer. There's a bias too.
That's not just like Homer bias, but it's like when you're close
to something and you know the details like you like it more
just because like you know the ins and outs more.
So I think it's more that than I'm like.
I love the bills. You know what I mean?
I think I'm like this team. Is literally like going to fall
apart if they don't win the Super Bowl this year and they
trade it up. It's going to happen, yeah.
Draft all indicate they have like almost no one to throw to
outside of stuff on digs. They play with Josh Yale on the
high score and offense in the league.
Like it's going to happen unless he sucks.
Kind of like if he's remotely. Do you think if he smashes, do
you think Gabe Davis fails again?
I think Gabe is who he is. He's going to play 90% of the
snaps. He's going to have some really
big weeks. I think he's really overvalued
in these full PPR leagues though.
He's not going to get a ton of targets and like he's going to
smash. If he smashes, going to be on
efficiencies like the back gets, he gets really pushed up in
these full people. I mean, I hate to like split
hairs because like if a guy breaks out, like who cares if
it's full PPR? Half but like.
I think he. I was really into Gabe really in
the offseason, like underdogs, half PPR.
He was going later, but now it's like.
He's got to play every down, though.
I mean, they have nobody. Like like how many offenses in
the league project to be. I can't.
I just could say Kansas City. But like, I mean they have
Kelsey, obviously. Like you've got the Kelsey Diggs
kind of similarity. But it's like these offenses
that project to score so many points, and then there's just
like nobody to, like, get the. Points.
Right. Yeah, And the Deontay Hardy hype
has been pretty loud as well. Yeah, like like Deontay Hardy's
gonna. Keep Kincaid off the field.
No, I wasn't saying. I know you're not saying that.
Yeah, I think that will keep
Kincaid off. Come on, Kevin.
You generally want a wide receiver on the field a lot, and
so yes. Yeah.
I think they view him as a wide receiver.
Yeah, yeah, he's. But we've heard that.
We've heard that. Before for sure.
We've definitely heard that before and.
It's like he also. Wasn't that good of a prospect?
Frankly, that's another part of it, too.
It's a lot. We're like putting a lot on
this, dude. In a position where it doesn't
really happen like that and it's like he's not, it's not like
he's a Kyle Pits little prospect or even close.
I know he won the first round, but like, that's how many times
we're gonna count it. Okay too, but like the draft
cost between Rookie or Kyle Pitts and Rookie or don't think
Kate is quite different. Also, Kate's on a way better
team, so maybe not. Maybe not rookie or.
Pits with Ryan like they were, they were decently projected
off. So I think when we are about to
pick here, do we we are on the clock, do we wanna just take the
better version of the Kincaid pick?
Yeah, so. I think it makes sense.
Yeah, yeah, Full time. What?
We can't leave him for Chad. He needs to tight up.
Yeah, I think, I think that makes sense.
And. We can't.
I mean, John takes. Him running backs pretty flat
here. Yeah, I'm not opposed to, maybe
not here, but like this is a team that we could definitely
take two tight ends on. Yes.
So for sure just take take look forward to here, yeah.
All right, let's do laport. Receiver's flat.
Running backs flat. We can hit a running back on the
way back if you guys want. We already.
Have a I will say like there's basically like two really fun
running back names left at this point.
It's like Roshan and Taje Spears and then it just like dries up.
Yeah, I so that's the two I was gonna say.
Yeah, so maybe if if we wanna take one of those.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, we we need just.
We're only taking fun running backs.
We have 3 running backs to start and we kind of want to start
four wide receivers if it worked out well, so.
I think if both Raja and Rochon go Pete, then Kendra can be a
pick. Yeah, and although he's falling
a little bit more too. He's falling And then I mean, I
think I'd be in the range like Sean Tucker is now second on
their depth, so. Do you think that?
I think this is. Early I would.
I mean, if it got to that point, I think I'd lobby for like Jaden
Reed or Jim and Hyatt over Sean Tucker.
I'm telling you guys, I actually think he'll go before the start
of the 14th. Sean Tucker, we might get him in
like 13. If you guys want I Mingo over
those guys. I mean, Mingo's the starting
line receiver. OK.
Mingo ahead of them, yeah. Yeah, I.
Rookie wide receiver. Whichever one you guys like
most. Sounds sounds good to me.
Are you guys all out on Rashi Rice too?
No out, but I don't know. I think he's going to be.
Yeah. To take a peek is actually
potentially pretty beneficial for this team.
If you were to catch a touchdown in like 4 balls, we might
actually want to start midweek one.
Considering Burke's injury and Johnston's role, we might be
just starting Marvin Mim's Week 1.
No, no. Because we're starting 3 running
backs, 3 running, yeah, yeah. Unless I mean like unless
something happens to IU like or don't wish that upon him.
You're right, my fault. No, you're good.
Are Elijah Mitchell still there? Not that we want to take him
because we have CMC, but that's weird.
Damn, they're good. They're good by two running.
Those. Let's do exact who I was looking
at. Yeah, I mean, I like.
Kendra too though, I think. Andre, if they want, we can sit
Kendra on ice on this kind of team.
Yeah, we can for. Sure we can.
Push him and Tucker and try to get one at 13 and take one of
Rice or Mingo here and and push the running back to to the next
turn. Yeah, running back just can keep
getting worse though. Yeah, the way these this room is
now starting to hammer them. I'd be fine going with Kendra
here and then Mingo goes, well that that makes me.
Also like, what's our construct like with three running backs
like like normally right we have like 8 running backs right?
Like we might only need like 6. You good at receiver 6
receivers. Yeah, running back, I mean, and
then just have more receivers than usual.
I think we should take Kendra because there's just very few
like really big upside swings left at running back.
There's Chuba. There's Sean Tucker.
I'm like, I'm OK with, I'm OK with Kendra.
Who would be the kind of like Kendra?
I'm gonna vote Kendra. Yeah, let's go, Kendra.
Yeah, Kendra. Yeah, I'm gonna vote Kendra too.
And. Then we've got like Rice, Reed,
Hyatt, like just like hope one of those guys comes back right
like and at some point Chaig or Dulcic.
I think when you know I think this is a team that we we
definitely roster 2 tight ends. Like we don't need a shit load
of running backs like we normally do.
Would you guys be down to also grab Purdy super late on this
team? Yeah, I think.
I think I'm definitely more into the two quarterback stuff that
I've been in the in the past. Just thinking like the CMCIU,
you know smashes, I do think probably coincide with Purdy
continuing to be pretty good and if like Watson is a lemon.
Like having some kind of out and it doesn't even have to be
Purdy. I guess there's just a
correlation element there. But just I think a second
quarterback. Yeah, makes some sense that we
don't want to spend a lot on. But Rock Purdy is one of those
guys that should be available pretty late.
Also, Purdy's like superpower was passing touchdowns, you
know, so we. What is the scoring settings for
cubic? Six per passing.
Touchdown 06. Point.
No. I fell for it.
Where it was like half out of my
mouth. And I was like, yeah, all right,
here's our team through 12 rounds.
This guy Leone will not let us stop drafting rookies here.
CMC Devante Smith Jamir Gibbs Drake London Kenneth Walker.
Brandon I. You.
Quinton Johnson Trail and Burts. Deshaun Watson.
Marvin Mim. Sam LaPorte.
Kendry Miller. I think like two guys on this
team are legally allowed to drink.
What's wrong, Leone? Well.
What's wrong is the perception that I love old some young
players. I I just like a touch more
balance than than maybe the three of you do without me
that's. Yeah, that's all.
It was the Bills. Take a guy and then let's
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you what I would love to pull up.
Oh no, that's Thursday night. That's Thursday night after the
game. I think it's after the game
Thursday. Never mind exactly.
Getting back to the Purdy conversation, I think the
biggest question is if, if we just want to like you do kind
of. Pump a bench spot.
You know, but I do think, like we saw last year, there's some
value to two quarterbacks in this league, this format.
They do score a lot. And also, I just think when
we're structured with earlier running backs, you need less
dark throws because they become less valuable if they hit,
right? Because they're not necessarily
even getting into your lineup. You still want the hit, but.
I think that I feel like Ben's out on the the second
quarterback thing. I can't really tell.
No, I'm, I'm. I'm ashamed to admit it.
I'm watching the Chase discussion.
No. It's right now.
Yeah, it's really good. It's really good.
I I was, I was, I was wrong about about my role in it.
But Leona, you did say to me immediately early on.
I thought you were chased over Judy.
You convinced me and Pat pretty quick.
Or like you used to be chased over Judy.
Like you called me on my own shit cuz I remembered I had Ben
and then I said yeah I did. Used to be chase over Judy, but
he's been falling, so I moved him behind.
It was good you also had. Julio up there, Leoni.
You're like I had to be Julio and Chase like.
You. I had to use Julio as the
threat. He had.
He knows how to sell. He was the he was the like.
Rip corn like he was. Saying Yeah, Bob stepped to my
chest. You definitely you.
Definitely had to talk us in all of.
Pat, me and Pete were. Were Swift Judy.
And the way that you got us onto Swift Chase is almost
impossible. How?
I mean, incredible. Because he was right.
It was impossible. He was wrecked.
He was like, yeah, that's where, like you and me are both like,
well, we we, yeah, I guess we can talk.
To the chase. Like he's like, yeah, you're
right. That's.
Great. Do you guys like Chase?
Out on the play, I told you guys Tucker goes at the end of 12.
He doesn't even make it into 13. You were right.
Yeah, you called that one. The receivers went too.
I mean it's just through these, these in the back half, this
drafter like really on it. I'm starting to think Team 12
has been kind of like paying attention to the athletic
update. Sean Tucker and Zach Moss.
This guy knows Ball. Dalton Kincaid.
He knows Ball. Never mind, throw it out.
Dalton Kincaid. You know, Dalton Kincaid is
perfect as you're tied into behind Dallas Goddard, so you
never have to start him. Yeah, he won't really hurt your
team that bad there. I think Sam Laporta is one of
our most drafted guys. Now we'll have to do a little
high stakes portfolio. Exposure review, but LaPorte has
got to be up there. Yeah he he does have to be up
there. So I didn't it was like had a
September 5th, we we know your Kincaid take.
I didn't hear anything you guys are talking about with the two Q
B's. Is there a close note like you
guys are debating whether we even take a second at all?
But the he was saying like to take Purdy late and you know,
it's kind of correlated. He could just throw shit load of
touchdowns. I like.
It and it basically just like a slight hedge on like the Watson
upside case is like very clear, but it also could just be a
total bust and there's going to be legit good quarterbacks going
at decent prices. Like, even golf with La Porta
makes a decent amount of sense. That would be my point would be
if I would be pretty or even better for QB two.
I think there's no risk in taking a solid QB 2 here.
I kind. Of like Chig here though, no, no
one really need. To yeah, I would be on Chig and
guys, let's push the quarterback around.
All these guys are. Strong take, strong take you
just these these. These guys are itching to take a
second quarterback. You're off, Timothy Quarterback.
Just it doesn't work anymore. Yeah, it's too late in the
draft. Maybe.
We're probably good on chat. Chad is probably tapping.
Still have him as one of my top two.
The only only other tenant I have above him right now is
ever. But yeah, I mean, I don't think
I've taken him anywhere. This is.
A There goes golf. Yeah, quarterback.
Golf was the last one. I think Chig would be an awesome
pick. Yeah, yeah.
We get the we're going to get the.
I mean, not that it matters that much, but I think we get the
free look on La Porta. I always get confused because
the self-contained league, but I think they just apply the logic
to all their leagues because it's just easier that way, yeah?
Before we take I mean OK I I'm definitely on Jake Jake is nice
are you guys concerned So I I got it as.
Aren't you worried about? I got it as Ty Chandler and
Chuba is kind of the only two interesting running backs Are
we? Do we want another running back
even at all? Do we care?
I think we probably want one more running back, but like, but
losing Jake would hurt more than those.
Let's take I think. It would, yeah.
Because we, we have some uncertainty on like what we're
doing with La Porta out of the gate, Yeah, yeah.
I dig that. We have trailing too.
It's like a it's a little bit of a bet on Tennessee's whole you
know, passing situation. That's a correlation I'm I'm
fine with. Yep, for the people just tuning
in, as we said at the top, this is not a tournament.
We've drafted some primetime teams.
This is a self-contained, high stakes $2500 entry team every
year with Leone on NFFC. We've done the self-contained 12
team leagues. This is the Super Not Super Flex
12 team $2500 Buy In. Did anybody ask why we drafted a
dynasty team yet? No, I'm waiting for that one.
That joke. So two 2022 I think is the.
Oh fuck, do we have anybody old CMC and Deshaun.
Watson Like our oldest twin, it's the MC and Watson's.
Old, I guess. Yeah.
This is a young ass team. Holy cow.
I yet is the next oldest player after those.
Yeah. I used.
I used her trusty vet. Yeah.
Yeah, Leona's gonna get us to try to drop the cold, Beasley to
close this thing out. You know who I like.
Wait, is Wandell is on the sucker for?
Oh. God, yeah, I'm into it.
You know that this is you're in the right place.
Although we still got Hyatt on the board too, I know we
probably want to take running. Back but like, I don't know.
I don't think we have to take running back here necessarily.
I think I'd be high it. I think I'd just be like, you
know, we're a little shaky at wide receiver.
Let's just make, you know, make a lot of lot of swings here.
I'll wander over high it straight up but.
Oh, you're. Wanda over.
High it. Yeah.
Interesting. I think I I think I agree with
Gretch is again not to do the managed best ball thing but like
if you get a guy who breaks out as a consistent.
Target share earner that you feel comfortable starting each
week. It's definitely going to be
Wandell over Hyatt. Yeah.
No, I mean, that's cool. I I think I just got a scared.
I took a lot of Wandell early in the offseason and then it was
like, we can't touch this guy for like a good period.
And now it's like, it's OK we can we can draft them again now.
So I've had trouble placing them.
I think it'd be Cuba one here though, I think.
If we don't care between Wandell and Hyatt or like it's it's a
close decision. I I maybe that's sort of where I
was. At Did Chandler Go?
Chandler. Oh, Jaden.
Reed went. So we had read.
The other receivers went, but OK, I'd be fine doing Chuba.
And then like, is it crazy to just close out running back with
five on this team? I mean that's not, no.
It's really not. I think it.
I think we could close out with four, honestly.
Cuba sit the luxury pick. Cuba's a luxury?
Pick yeah. Kendra Kendra Though we could
have to sit on for a little bit, so I don't mind having another
body back there. But is it Chuba over Tie?
I feel like Tie has a better chance to just take the job from
Madison than Chuba does from. Also, do we think that's about
even? Cuz I think Chuba's potentially
better than tie, so he's. Better we get the free look.
Guys on him on who? We get the free look right?
Yeah, on him. Yeah, yeah.
Well, I'm just thinking at a certain point like Mvs would be
worth drafting and just dropping in case he has a really big
game. We would actually start on week
1. All right, not.
Here but the old disgusting. Guy, you know what I mean?
Floated. Kelsey's kelsey's.
Out. Kelsey's out and Leote's going
through old withdrawals, right? This is not how.
Young this team was if he was like a guy I.
Think we're gonna take Chuba here and close out running back,
right? Or Ty Chandler, right?
That was the debate Chuba to. Oh, I think I'm Chandler over
Chuba, just cuz the offense is better but it's but I think
Miles sucks more, so I don't know.
I could go whoever you. I think Miles sucks more and
Chuba is better than Ty. So that's like why I'm on.
Yeah. Obviously the Vikings is better
offense. You're Cuba.
I'm gonna make coin flip. Pete.
You have to you have to decide. I.
Think I'm leaning Ty. Fuck, that means I have to pick.
You already took Ty. Oh, what do you?
Think Chandler, Chandler, Chandler, Chanler, Chanler,
Chandler. But I do think like it's like
exactly what Pat said. I mean it's better offense
first, like better chances of it.
I was kind of thinking more ceiling just cuz we have three
guys like let's just go with the guy that like if it happens and
maybe it's like more points. But I don't know maybe that's
also my my broke, my my weekly PSA when we're on here, the the
Vikings have the nut playoff schedule as well.
So it's like a little tiebreaker there.
One of my favorite moments of ship chasing this entire year
was the moment that we realized. Someone in the chat told us that
Silva, in his first one first edition of 150 had Ty Chandler
as like running back 40 at like 115 or something.
And I mean, we were laughing just because it was so much
above market, but it's funny because the market has
definitely moved that way, and not just because Silva ranked it
that way, because it's clearly moved that way.
He was ahead of where Chandler would be at this point, but I
mean, what? Like, yeah.
What a little bullish for the current ADP I would say but you
know, but what about the other thing was I think we all had
the. Best small.
Brain and the S goes to you guys.
You didn't even want him there. You're talking later.
I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.
Can we just do Justin Ross instead?
Yeah, on the on the Chandler thing, I think Richie.
James And it really is much better managed Leap pick
Chandler. Yeah, cuz he can cut him.
Yeah, yeah, you can cut him. So he's either he's either gonna
like make an impact or but the fact that it would be the number
two, or he's not. And then you cut the fact that
McBride got cut. Wang Wu was never a thing.
I'm still mad that people think Wang Wu who never even had like
100 touches on offense in an entire college season, like this
guy was a real threat to be at some point a workhorse NFL
running back in college would have had over 100 touches in a
season. That was the play.
Like that's just the way that these things he's he's active.
I still think he could he he's active because he's the kick
returner and he's really fast, so it's a most thing.
So he's not. Well, OK, yeah.
Now he's now he's not. That was the.
Play. That was the idea, yeah.
Yeah. So I don't know.
I think it's like like Pacheco sucked, you know?
But he was fast and at a certain point, like if a team gives a
fast guy a chance, like it can happen so.
Leoni, have you been in the team kicker team defense lab?
We need some fresh takes on that front.
Mark for Dang for us Writes a good article every year.
So I just do what he says to do and I just pull it up every time
during my draft and I don't remember a thing from it until
the next time I pull it up. Memory wipe it he defense he
kicker takes. All right, here's our team.
Through 14 rounds, we got four or five running backs now.
CMC Jamir Gibbs, Kenneth Walker, Kendra Miller and Ty Chandler.
We have at wide receiver Devante Smith, Drake London, Brandon
You, Quinton Johnston, trailing Burks and Marvin Mims.
Our quarterback is Deshaun Watson and two tight ends, Sam
Laporta and Chig. A conquel here as we head into
the 15th round we got. 1236 more picks.
One will be a kicker, one will be a defense.
So four more picks to play with. We've talked about doing another
quarterback which gives us three more to play with.
They're probably done at running back.
Could basically do two more wide receivers and one more tight end
kind. Maybe that's how it's looking.
Yeah. I mean, I think I'd be pretty
Giants wide receiver at this this turn if it if we had those.
Options about with us. That's good.
Yeah. Did I ever tell you that I I
tried. I didn't mean to act like you
didn't get us on Chase, because you did.
Did I ever tell you that I tried to buy you a Jamar Chase jersey
at the end of that year, but they were sold?
No, I don't think they did it because they went to the Super
Bowl, The Chase jerseys were completely sold out.
And I actually tried to find like a bootleg, like Chinese
Jersey Place or something. I could not find a Jamar Chase
jersey. Because this is back when you
did the randomizer with Pete that year and had done all the
jerseys and everything and I was.
And I had your address because of our FFW US winnings.
Yeah. Do you remember that?
Like, we haven't shipped to you? And I like for some reason I had
it. And I was like, I literally had
your address somewhere and I was like trying to send you a Jabbar
Chase jersey, But they were sold out and I'd never circled.
Back on it whenever they came. So you never got it.
And then I never certain, then I just never.
And then I forgot that you got us on him.
And I thought I got us on him. So take that.
I didn't go that far. I didn't go that far.
That's funny. That's good stuff.
You should get. We should get amazed, they.
Were like, yeah, a. Buffalo Bills, Jamar Chase
jersey just says Chase with this number you guys can buy pay
Kincaid jersey. I'll buy you.
I'll buy you all Kincaid jerseys with all the money he's gonna
win me. Yeah, you'll.
Have fun. I don't.
Even have that much Kincaid. I don't even have that much.
Is is the irony? Yeah.
Pattons to buy us. Speaking of winning money,
Pattons to buy US jerseys. That's what he needs to buy
jerseys. What jerseys do you guys want?
Did you do you have Haekwon Thornton?
Tycoon Thornton? Yeah, that's the one I gotta get
beat. Taekwon Thornton.
I've noticed. Already I do not beat a Taekwon
Thornton jersey. Yes.
I was somehow one year early and one year late on Taekwon
Thornton. I don't.
Know. Did you do?
Anything to like, commemorate it?
Like, do you have like a plaque with like the lineup?
Like Levitan when he won the 250 Ki got like.
Like a borough jersey and then a plaque with like a nice picture
of the team. Like with the FanDuel scoring,
like do you have anything like that?
I don't. I don't.
I mean I could, yeah, if I did anything it would be echo
related. I would say he was.
Yeah, like the Ackler Powder blue Chargers jersey.
And then have like the underdog team with the scoring for the
week. Like, yeah, that's printed out.
I haven't done anything like that.
I I thought about calling Liam's lead and just demanding that
underdog send me a ring, but I haven't done that yet.
I could have grabbed you one Pat.
I saw one kicking around when I was at the Super Bowl.
There's one kick. They made it and didn't send it
to me. Yeah, it was just sitting out
there. I was like, well, it's not for
me, guys. Yeah, Have we decided if we want
to do which giant's wide receiver if they're both here?
I think that Wandell was, I think we go quarterback first,
right? Well, quarterback first,
Quarterback around. If they're both there, I'd
probably take quarterback 1st. And like, maybe someone makes
the Giants decision for us. But yeah, that's kind of what I
was thinking. What do you think?
Grutch. I think that makes sense.
Let's take Kiwi. I'll say party.
Party's the guy. I guess I'll say this, I'll feel
more bad about losing both Giants wide receivers than I
will having to take like Sam Howell instead of Brock Purdy.
Or Russ, we have the bet on Purdy.
We have. We.
Also have, but we have the Rust mins bet too as a backdoor,
right? I think Rust got a wide
receiver. We prefer passing touchdown
league isn't isn't right. I mean, I'm Hyatt and you guys
are Wandale. So we're split, I think.
Oh, I thought you have Wandale with no order.
No, I'm Hyatt. I think you got outvoted on
that. I think you're 3:00 to 1:00 on
that. Well, I kind of thought
everybody. You won Bill too.
I'm neutral. So you're neutral, okay?
Well, my bill's pretty here, but I guess I'm outvoted on that
too. Yeah, unfortunately you've never
wanted. Anything, Peter, you're on this.
Next You just gotta quit someone.
Yeah, let's Pat. Wins.
Yeah Pat, I mean when I send him 9 invites to Co manage this
league and he doesn't accept any of them, I think that's
basically saying I get to be well listen man, you're the one
who can't put a period in my e-mail even though there's
clearly a period in there and that's that wouldn't allow.
If you actually knew tech, you would know that the periods in
Gmail addresses are actually entirely cosmetic, and sending
an e-mail with or without the period, we'll still get it to
the destination that is 100% correct, but if you try a link,
yeah, it's crazy. Actually, that's.
A real thing. That's real.
That's a real thing. You don't need a period.
Yeah. So there's.
However, NFC does respect the period, so if you send if you
link to a, if you if you put it to a.
Period. In your invite, it's kind of
shocking that the NFC technology doesn't work the same as the
Google technology with with the e-mail logic.
I I love the chat right now. I first of all love that that
Charlie says neutral vote is not really neutral when it's to one,
because it's a really like nuanced point about how.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I've done that twice. That's on me.
And then Joe. And then Joe right behind it
just goes nerd, yeah. Yeah.
We could just take. We could just take Hyatt and
Punk QB for around Yes, please don't send me emails.
Yes, please don't send us emails.
That might not be a bad idea since we took Wandala Jake
Ferguson, CHD, on Jackson off the board.
Is it? Is it on?
Is it is it bad to just take Hyatt and and just punt the QB
for another round? I'm.
I'm OK with that. Honestly.
Pat. Pat.
I'll let you make this decision on on Prettier Hyatt.
I'll throw it to Pat I. Love that.
Thanks guys. It's just really generous of you
to to box me into something I don't really give a shit about
and then let me let me decide, yeah.
Well, we're. Giving you a a second.
Chance to grab a coin. Thanks for letting me flip it
though. We were giving hey like, hey,
you liked Hyatt. This could still work.
I like Hyatt too. I think high.
I think he has more potential to be like a clear starter than
than maybe Pete and Ben. I think we go Hyatt.
Yeah, it's it's a great way to
play both of them because, I mean, they do play very
different positions. But we'll get a look at their
offense and which one maybe makes more sense and how they're
going to do things and yeah. It's also, it's an offense.
I I don't know if they're gonna be amazing, but I like Dave all
a lot. I think they're gonna right.
They're gonna do some. They might do things a little
different than last year. Five of these teams after us
have two quarterbacks, and then the other ones are like ammo.
Come on. That's how you do it.
That's how you bleed the clock down to snipe us on Jayla diet.
Well, we can't. Yeah, hold on, hold on, hold on.
Are we sure actually that it's pretty over, Russ?
Well, we have them with McCaffrey and IUK.
Yeah. It's more we do have men's.
Yeah. I'm not all the faulty.
I don't I kind of vote Russ. I'm going to vote Russ.
Russ feels like a wider range of outcomes almost similar to the
Watson play right. We're like the hit is going to
be bigger than the pretty hit, but he definitely has a lower
core than pretty. We're looking through those
guys. Watson didn't work.
Now contributions are. On the lat and our entire team
is the 49ers. So if.
The 49ers. Are becomes one safe guy pat
vote bit Gretch. He voted party.
I've been outvoted. I just think like the entire
like they confuse. Your buke 2 risky quarterbacks
becomes one not so risky quarterback.
He got me with the two risky thing.
I was like the floors really low.
This is a correlation where if the Niners soccer, if Purdy
sucks like this team's dead, right This.
Team's dead anything? Yeah, yeah, the team's fucking
dead. What is the fields like that he
had up points with fucking Carolina.
The team's not dead if Purdy sucks and they're not gonna Come
on, man, they're not giving him. And here's the Guess what?
Guess what, guys we're gonna get?
Russell Wilson. On waivers when team five drops
one of their three quarterbacks after week two so it's good to
be by. That's fair.
I would. I do think like things are the
collision though. Like Ioxr wide receiver three
with a bunch of rookie bets on the bench that potentially
replace him depending on how things go.
And like Cmc's kind of like like that dude should roll.
Kind of. No matter what, as long as he
stays healthy. So it's like he already I kind
of think. It's just because of Carolina,
right. So he could do well to have
Donald in San Francisco. Yeah.
Although I I don't know. I think CMC is a little bit of a
different play these days where we don't expect him to happen.
He literally got every single snap when he was.
Yeah. They need to.
He needs to score. He needs to score more.
He needs to score. Yeah, he needs to score.
He needs the offense. He clicking.
He's our first round pick. And like, the whole point of
this quarterback is that Deshaun Watson might like flame out.
And so it's like, well, then let's our quarterback too should
be like the guy who's already, like tied to this team in a huge
way, which I I think he is. I get what you're saying about a
yuke, but that's also our second bet on the offense, so.
Yeah. No, that's fair.
I just think Russ, I I think it was close enough that I would
just take the guy that I think has the higher ceiling or
projects better, which is Russ, it was close.
Why don't we reach across the aisle and grab Tan Hill as our
third QB? No, we gotta get.
We gotta get Leonie an old quarterback.
I'm really trying to draft like 1 old guy on this team.
You guys won't we refuse? Just give me one, I mean 1 Dale
Purdy. We continue to just take the
youngsters, man. That's true man.
No, I like. I like Purdy.
I do think Purdy also has like a higher ceiling than people think
too. So I'm totally cool with Purdy.
Like, I need a kicker deep. And we have two more picks to
get an old Do you have a wild? Outwards a layer.
He's gone. He's gone.
Plus, like the free, really old
kicker, we. Can take.
A really old team kicker. What's team kickers?
Which team has been in existence for a really long?
Time. Yeah, we take Packers.
Guys, I got it. We take Josh Palmer and we just
start him for 17 weeks cuz he's a better player than Quinton
Johnston. Oh nice dude.
Let's handcuff the Quinton Johnson with Josh Palmer, who
for some reasons available still even though he's starting Week
1. Yeah, he's he's going to keep QJ
on the bench the entire year and yet can't get drafted himself
yet. It's funny how one is remotely
interested in drafting him. I wonder why I.
Love. Your rash over the Hyatt Snipe.
Yeah, just because. We finally talked ourselves into
getting both of those. Yeah, we all agreed we're all
happy together. And then it was a very, a very
kumbaya moment. Yeah, stolen.
From us, probably our best moment of the stream, and it
lasted for one second. Is is Michael Wilson just like,
terrible, or is he what? We all went through a Michael
Wilson phase and I think we all sobered up.
OK, I haven't really sobered up. I was like, I still think
sometimes, I mean it's more of a best ball thing generally for
me, cuz it's like. You know, over.
All year. I know.
I know who it is. Oh, I don't.
I think. I just think you guys are gonna
let You guys aren't gonna let me do it, though.
I don't think I will. I'll let you do it.
It's really bad. How excited you are.
The placement of your hands makes me.
I'm like, I just want Leone to get what he wants or.
He's really bad. Whatever he says, I promise to
be OK with it. I I talk to.
The Cyber. Chat, yeah.
It's Lenny. Oh God.
I'm actually fine with it. I'll give Leone Lenny.
I like it better in best box. I don't think he has like any
sort of ceiling, but I do think he could like sign somewhere and
be like usable, which doesn't really fit hurt.
I mean, Shit Load of Lenny in early drafts, So I hope you're
right. So what do we just how long do
we? Actually, don't think we should
take Lenny. Yeah, how long do we stash him
for? Cuz we're gonna cut him by week
two if he doesn't sign. Leoni just pranked us.
Dude, yeah. He got us to like, get this old
guy. And then he was like, no,
actually, that's a bad. Pick Well, I was like for I
think like there's almost no realistic path to him like
having like a legit ceiling like best ball.
It's like if he plays and score like 10 points a week, like
you're happy but like. Even if he signs, it's like,
what do we do now? I gotta play and again, I I said
this a bunch of times, but I do think this is legit.
With Kelsey's injury, like they could go extra receiver
formations frequently. They talked about Justin Ross
having a package. I think there's a chance they
keep all 7 receivers active now because Kelsey's hurt.
Like, it could be Noah Gray, but it could just be.
Noah Grave Free Look at tight end.
That's where we're weakest. We could do that as well.
We could do Noah, Greg, but I was going to say Justin does
this. Does he double count as an old?
I actually had Ross in the queue.
There's also Isaiah, likely with the It's 24.
The Andrews stuff there's likely as like an upside swing we could
do. Likely Ross, yeah, you could
also. You could do very take a peek is
a legitimate advantage, given how weak we are at tight end.
Yeah, that we, yeah, yeah, position.
We get 2 free looks at tight end and then we get to start at
conquer. If we have to, that would be
hilarious. Four point.
I think we should. That's actually very fun.
I really like that. All right, let's take Gray.
Should we get a hat on kicker defense, since it's like, kind
of doesn't matter at this point. Like, I kind of do that.
It's not get the worst. Give us some.
Names. I'll get on that, yeah.
All right, Team Kickers. Baltimore.
Atlanta. Seattle.
We should take Atlanta and Boomer Arthur Smith can maybe
finally pay off for us Defenses, Cowboys, Eagles, Niners.
I know Washington plays Arizona to start, so I just kind of feel
like we take Washington, we bank those points.
Yeah, that's a good one. They could score so many points.
Yeah, that's a great one. Look at us all you running we're
gonna get sniped on Noah Gray we're gonna well I was I was
just looking it's a good thing if we would have taken Hyatt
seeing Wilson get snap picked then how Ritter go we could have
gotten boxed out there at QB Yeah maybe it worked out for the
I we did not anticipate the the third quarterback from Yeah that
was the curveball. I think we just take all Chiefs
and Lions the rest of the way out.
I just can't stop taking a peek at this game, man.
Give me. I love taking peeks.
Use teams. Oh my God, Marvin Jones.
That's a throwback. We only in the championship of
the FF World Series that you mentioned earlier, you got us on
Marvin Jones. I didn't want to start him.
We had to set a starting lineup. You convinced me to start him
and he was a difference. We won it over Herzig.
Cuz you really want to play Marvin Jones.
Remember that. I do.
But I I was, yeah, he's he's
just an on. Brand I don't really, but like
this. I think this Gray thing would be
kind of cool. I my thing with the Ross peak
ahead. I just don't know if he's gonna
like, play. Like, I think we know what the
peak's gonna show us. It's gonna show us, yeah.
The peak is a healthy scratch, yeah.
Yeah, I think he's going to be active, but I think he's not.
Ever since Davis got on him, the Bush was back in on Justin Ross.
You want to do I know Davis? Yeah, No.
My favorite though was Davis posting like like a triple move
in oneonone practice against like the fourth string safety
for Ross and. After.
That's earlier. Say, look at Miko was like,
freaking out. He's like, that's like an
unrealistic drill. And I looked up on the depth
chart. That's like the fourth string
safety. It was like so tilt that day.
They just had this quick. Bait tweet with the highlight.
Clip on. It man, our defense goes, yeah,
we lose the commanders. So we got three more rounds
left. One is team kicker, one's team
defense. We got one more pick like.
So yeah, I don't get the Rams. If the Cup's out, that's a good
play, right? Yeah, that's a good play on
Chargers is like a decent. I think Saints are gone, right?
Chargers is just like a decent one in general.
Chargers in Cleveland. I'm just going off.
Who does? Who charges for?
Dolphins Chargers for Dolphins. Which might not be bad because
the remember the points allowed doesn't mean anything.
Yeah, just turnovers. Yeah, you've got Cleveland.
The Cleveland one is a take on the OL stuff.
It's Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Tennessee.
The first three weeks, which are all kind of like shaky O lines
for for Cleveland. What does the Cleveland play?
I'm literally just reading off Dang's thing.
I have no original thoughts. Oh, I got it.
I got a guy we shouldn't maybe consider.
It's a. Defendant.
Double tape it must in. Boss.
No, it's Evan Hall. This is a big running back
swing. Do we want to go running back
instead of wide receiver? I was.
I was gonna take defense, Yeah. It's just like nothing that
makes me excited. I mean, Alec Pierce is there.
I take a lot in best ball, but like, I mean how are we really
starting him every week, you know, so.
What about your voice, Sladen, dude?
And I guess we could do Slayton, but that doesn't really feel
like a big swing like he's. He'll probably play some and be
OK. Justin Ross goes, I kind of
would just take that. I like that.
This Browns defense schedule. I would take the Browns here.
Let me the the case for Hall here is we talked earlier about
like Taylor could be out for the entire season and Hall is
versatile and he's very athletic and he's going to have, they're
going to get a look at him early.
So it's a chance that he's probably running back.
Yeah. It has been for a while and I
mean really not going to take them because of priority on team
defense. Like, let's just take the last
kind of home run, swing and running back.
I mean, that's fine. I I do think there's something
to like where everyone starts to take defense kicker where
there's a good chance your Lotto ticket falls and then you don't
end up with the worst of the kicker in defense.
But. You know, I don't feel.
Strongly about that. I totally agree with that neony,
but like 6 of the 8 teams on that side have already taken a
D. Yeah.
And we don't. Do we have one that we I?
Didn't say it's that guaranteed to fall.
Yeah. Browns.
Would be the one if we were to take, Yeah, Broncos also.
We don't take call. Broncos are four point home
favorites versus Jimmy Garoppolo.
That's another one that I would float out there.
Yeah. Yeah, I just we're not going to
be able to. I do like the early schedule
stuff, but like I don't think we should be planning on like
streaming it. But you're not going to be able
to stream each week like it's just harder.
And because these, I mean, we've already seen 3 two teams roster,
2 defenses. I'm surprised to see more.
What? Who do the Browns play Week one?
Did you say Bengals Week 1? Yeah, they've got Bengal,
Steelers, Titans, which are all like.
Big OLDL mismatches you. Just want to play a defense
against the Bengals in Week 1? I mean, if you're just looking
at past attempts against an OLDL, I mean.
Well, but I mean, it's past attempts because you want sacks
and interceptions, but when the quarterback is one of the top
three quarterbacks in the NFL, like you're not going to Burrow.
Takes sacks though. Burrow takes, Sack takes.
Yeah, yeah. It takes a bunch of sacks and
he's dealing with the calf injury, so I don't think it's
crazy. OK.
But it's also not, that's I guess what I'm saying, like when
you look at the stretch to start is pretty good.
Like, I'm not saying like the Bengals is like we're targeting
that. But I don't think with the way
the defensive scoring works and with it being like a decent
stretch and I think, like, I don't think we're going to be
able to just exchange each week like the one we want, like super
easily. Yeah, I'm coming around.
I like it. But they might fall because they
play the Bengals in Week 1. Yeah, hopefully they do.
All right, let's go in the team kicker lab.
I can read you off. All right, Atlanta, we just.
Don't do that. Why don't you roll the clip?
Oh yeah. Oh, you're yeah.
It's good. A lot of.
Time, guys. It's time.
Kicker chasing. It's the show where we chase the
best kickers, the kickers that help you win championships, the
biggest legs, the breaking news. It's everything you've come to
love and know. The time is now for kicker
chasing. Let's get some fucking kickers.
Get some fucking kickers. What are we drinking, Pat?
We got some San Diego brews. Dude, yeah, this is actually
down street from US Thorn St. Brewing.
It's pineapple sour. First sip, I thought this beer
sucks and now I kind of like a lot.
So, you know, it's one of those that sneaks up on you in a good
way. Love it.
Yeah. Kind of like the Wandell
Robinson pick. It's a little little.
Sour a little tart at 1st and then you're like, holy cow.
He could be leading the Giants in targets by the end of the
season. Maybe.
Give. Me some more of that.
Exactly. My team picker is long gone.
Wow. Gypsy Gypsy's canceled our last
draft stream, by the way, when this draft is over.
We're going to announce a little walk off announcement of what
our plans are going to be in season.
We've been mentioning that things are going to look a
little different here. So we will make that
announcement immediately following this draft before we
get out of here. I do think what one thing I'm
disappointed in from the group is we came in first.
Two years ago we came in second last year and then we we went
our lowest stakes this year. I know.
But it wasn't.
It wasn't. It was.
Because it was time scheduling. Issues, yeah.
Yeah. It was timing.
We were, we were bonded. We're not scaling.
Down our action you. Know No.
Yeah. You were doing, what are you
doing the 5K or 10K when we're having our party in Vegas, is
that what it ended up being? Yeah, I'm doing the 10.
That's when the 10K is. It's 7:00 PM on Friday night.
Yeah, 7:00 PM year time. We chose.
We chose the people over getting.
A yeah, a higher stakes lease. When did you do the party last
year? We did it later Friday night
like we did like 9 or 10, but because we're doing okay the and
we're getting the space, we're doing it a little earlier.
Got it. Yeah.
So we have some guesses on the format here.
One of them is that Pete revealed all the bids for our
waivers. Yes.
So just love that. Let's just say that's not going
to be possible anymore. Not even gonna be possible.
There's a teaser. There's a teaser.
Yeah. God, I'm.
I'm so excited. Yeah.
For the end season, it's gonna be a blast.
Me too all. Right Chiefs go.
So we're about to be on the clock for our final 2 picks.
Let's see here. Denver Broncos go, Chiefs go.
Hodgins, do we? Leone was pounding the table for
the Browns. D and they're still here.
That's the. I mean, again, I'm
regurgitating, but they seem like the best defense to take.
We did it, Leone. That's the rule we.
Got the. Browns alpha play for sure.
Wow. We lost out on Marquis Brown 3
rounds later, but we did get the Browns defense.
And that's an original franchise.
That's an. Old, old.
Old. Franchise.
Old ass franchise correlated with our quarterback.
Okay. So I got a charger.
The check. Take kicker first cuz there was
4DS. Over there, we should.
Think. God damn it, you should have
pushed. The OK, they finally were right
about what they were finally right.
Definitely. No.
But honestly, the way these teams take two defenses, there
was no. No.
They have to take kicker. They haven't taken kicker.
Yeah, now they're locked into kicker.
Well, you know, hopefully their defense here.
Like Steve, that would have been the Browns.
But we still haven't even mentioned a kicker.
We want it. I.
Got two in the queue, baby. Two in the queue, it's.
All right, all right. It's just calm down.
Listen. Oh, I like Paul's call.
We're stuck in that pitch up with the Sean.
Yeah, we do. Shawn.
That pitch up with negative correlation.
Nah, it's the it's they're going to get into shootouts, pat up
and down track meets. They're going to give up points,
but they're going to cause chaos.
All right. Telling.
Telling a story. Oh man, we got to survive three
straight kicker picks. This would be just to hopefully
because lions off 2. But never know.
You never know. There goes Kyler, 20th round
pick. Well.
Thinking I auto drafted him in our slow today in the in the
FFPC main so that was great on on accident I had just using
your queue and then he got auto drafted like like he shouldn't
have been at the top of the queue in I.
Sight. Gotcha.
But you know, around it was, it was.
It was too early, but it was like Dicker, I don't know, 17 or
18? Yeah, Dicker, the kicker.
They go for it on 4th and get them out all right.
Take care of this. Did you have, didn't they got to
have another seat? Didn't Staley capitulate?
It. Did, but they still have for it
a decent amount. I I would have.
Oh, the lions went. Yeah, no, dicker it.
Is we could get free with the Lions.
So I don't think you can drop. If I'm not here tonight, but
Nick has discovered in the chat, you can't drop the kicker.
I don't think you can drop someone that's in your starting
lineup. Oh.
I think FFPC is the same way. Yeah, I think.
And you can't bench them if you don't have someone else to put
in. I could be wrong, but that's not
100% sure on that. So we would have to cut like.
Evan Hole If we really wanted to, but otherwise we would have
been screwed. No, we wouldn't have been able
to. If we cut like Evan Hole added a
second kicker. And then just left the lines on
the bench for the. I see what you're.
Saying no, no, even after the game, would we have been able to
switch it after? I don't.
Yeah, because you could you get a free.
I don't know. I don't know how the logic.
Works. Sherman and I did a FFPC stream
and someone kind of mentioned it to us because we we ended up
taking like Lions kicker at the end because we were like, oh,
we'll get the free look. I don't know how it works
either. I was talking to Sean about this
exact thing, actually. This is why I'm asking, because
you seem to have a better understanding that either of us
did. It's it's very.
And someone's like, you can drop them if you're not in your
starting lineup, but I don't think there's any way to get
them out of your starting lineup at waivers.
Do you know right? You can't, but I don't know if.
You cut like Evan Hole a different.
Yeah, you could bounce. Back for the week and drop them
the next week. Yeah, right.
Yes. That would be the only way to do
it. You'd have to drop a position
player. Yeah, because the waivers
happens before the lock of the lineup happens.
Yeah, you could take them out after you cut hole and then and
then you have two kickers and then you cut one after week one.
Yeah, it's like the only one. Right.
I think Leonie said it. It's because people wondering
why do the selfcontained leagues do take a peek?
Because it's how they structure their entire contest across the
platform. And I don't think they're
separating how the free agents operate in selfcontained versus
the tournament format. Also because I'd say I'd say
what? Pretty sure why shouldn't the
self-contained leagues? People.
It is because Chad was joking about taking a peek on the home.
So. I like fun.
I don't know about you guys. Yeah, yeah.
When I first started playing Ive Stakes, I was like, the Taking
Peek's overrated. It's just one week.
It's the first week of the year. It's at least important of all
the weeks, dude. The more years that I play this
tomorrow, I'm like this is like it's the skeleton key of
everything. Like I care so much about the
taking peek. Yeah.
It's so good. All right.
Let's recap this team here guys. We started out with CMC.
We thought, hey, maybe we get Tyree killed.
Nope, Devante Smith comes back to us in the second.
That felt good. We woke up with Jamir Gibbs in
the third. Finally grabbed a high stakes
share there. Drake London in the fourth,
Kenneth Walker in the 5th, Brandon Iuk.
Then Quinton Johnston, Josh Palmer's backup, trailing Burks.
Then we grab a quarterback to Sean Watson.
When it got flat, Hemden Hod took Marvin Mims, missed out on
Dalton Kincaid but got the better version and Sam Laporta,
Kendra Miller after our other two targets, Roshon Johnson and
Taje Spears went. Then we saw Chig falling and had
to scoop him up in the 13th. Debated Ty Chandler.
Chuba went with Ty Chandler there.
Debated Jalen Hyatt or Wandell Robinson?
Went Wandell. Debated Jalen Hyatt and Brock
Purdy? Nope, Jalen Hyatt got snipes.
So we took Brock Purdy look like a blessing in disguise after a
mini QB run. Then we took Noah Gray because
we are so sharp and we're going to take a peek.
Then Pat pounded the table for Evan Hole, which we grabbed.
Leone's defense comes back around Cleveland Browns super
storied franchise that appeals to Mike's old and, you know,
antique sensibilities. And then we wrap it up with
Dicker, the kicker. Los Angeles team kicker.
That was an all Time Team breakdown.
I feel exhausted. I feel like I'm at the end of
drafting season, like this is the last drafting stream.
That's what it feels like to me. We do need an average.
From the Russian judge A10. Exactly how old is CNC?
27 I believe. He is.
You're really worried, just the age on our team?
You just turned. I mean he's just, I was just, I
mean he's he's 20, he's just turned 27 and I think he's far
and away our oldest player. That's why he's the only guy
over 25. It's Deshawn.
Deshawn Watson, probably. Oh, Watson, he's yeah, he's
about to turn 28. But I don't think anyone else on
this team is over 25 years old. Yeah, Brandon IU. 28 like today.
Iux 20. 5. This year he turned 25.
I mean, this is what is. What year is, I don't know.
He came in with Jeffrey Iux Team Years.
He was on the CP flight, Jefferson Plus.
We used. 25 1/2 Iux 25 1/2. Leone, what's the Machine take
on on this team? I know you got overruled on a
couple of your guys, but what does the Machine think of this
team's chances? No, I love.
I love this team. I think we got a good mix here.
I think we, you know, like we always do, we take a value like
Gibbs and we're open to it, even though we're not planning on it.
And I think as much as we like Reese Hall, we kind of made the
right decision to be. That wide receiver there with
Drake London, just knowing we'd have some flexibility with like
either Walker Dobbins at 5-6. I like it.
Tight end that we kind of grab like the fun upside guy.
But then like Oconco is like an upside guy and a little bit
safer than Laporta. So I feel, I feel good, I feel
good about this squad. I don't really know what I would
have done differently. I mean obviously there's a few
like head to head player takes. We're like slightly different
on, but looks solid to me. Marquis.
You wish we had Marquis. Very fun.
It was not Marquis versus QJ. I was on Team QJ.
We took it was Marquis versus trailing and I probably would
have taken Marquis. It was.
Marquis versus QJ. And then it was Marquis versus
trailing. No, I was.
I was the only was on Team QJ. Over Marquis for QJ When you
look at this team, do you think in your head somewhere this team
needs Marquis Brown? No, but I just think he's
better. I think he's a better bet than
than Burke's just in just generally like a for ceiling
combination. I think it's better, but I like
trailing Burke's like, I mean it's and we got like and it kind
of like I was joking about the QB distributions overlapping.
But like it's kind of the whole point of the way we draft is
like some of these guys are going to suck.
But like we just need like one or two to be good.
I would say the only pick that wasn't fun for me was like
Deshawn Watson because the board got super flat.
And we didn't have anyone else we wanted to take.
Deshawn's not my favorite guy to root for, and yet I think just
looking at the board, it was the best pick at the time.
Deshawn's not my favorite guy. The one thing I was like
thinking about if you work backwards is like, I don't have
the board in front of me, But like, you know, it didn't
happen. Like we had to take Gibbs.
But there is part of me that is like was kind of wondering like
you know, could we make one wide receiver pick in the first four
rounds work and take Lamar and just take like essentially the
same team that we drafted. Maybe we take like another, you
know, wide receiver bet. Yeah, there was like a Herbert
decision, but it didn't happen. It didn't happen because they
went Lamar Herbert on the turn and we definitely were going to
take those guys before Gibbs and I think Burrow on Burrow
unstacked with the calf injury and stuff when it made sense.
So we didn't really like have that opportunity.
But I'm kind of, I don't think we would have done it and that's
one that I would have been like unsure of like what the right
way to play it is. I love this running back room
because we've done a lot of running back rooms that look
like, I would say like Breece ETN Dobbins, you know, like
those kind or like Breece ETN Giovante Williams getting a CMC
Gibbs Walker room, which are I know are all three running backs
we like. But to get those guys all on the
same team together is very fun. This is an awesome I love every
time we draft with Leonie, we wind up with a team that's like
a little bit different than our other builds, but also very much
fits the ideals of what we normally do.
And they always smash. So I'm looking at this team and
I'm like, this team's gonna smash.
I'm so confident this team's gonna win this league.
This seems awesome, yeah. And honestly, to your point,
Ben, I know there's a lot of distinguished drafters in here,
but looking at some of the builds and stuff like that, I do
really feel good about how our team stacks up.
And we stayed on target and I think we really got a lot of
best players at our spots. Yeah, the guy from Team 7
drafted a super sharp team that's like yeah that I'm yeah,
he's got like he's even got the late round quarterbacks I like
with like Kirk and Gino back-to-back like which for.
When he took Tucker really early, I legit thought that it
might be like an alternate universe ship chasing.
Team, this is this. Is a different guy.
Isn't this team seven? Yeah, this is team seven, the
Kirk team, they said. Tucker.
Yeah, he did he. Took ohh team.
I'm sorry, I I was thinking Sean Tucker, my bad.
Yeah, I'm a. I'm a secret.
Priest. He thinks Almond, Raw, Jackson,
Smith and jig. But he gets Markey's Brown,
Leonie's favorite player. I mean, it's it's all our
favorite player. Yeah, it's it's a nice team.
We don't normally talk about other good teams, but well,
sorry we did it guys. Always enjoy this annual
tradition of drafting Alpha plays only with Mike Leone.
This does conclude another terrific drafts is in here on
ship chasing. Had a ton of fun drafting on
underdog FFPCNFFC. Excited to keep things rolling
in Vegas here. We will be there on Thursday and
Friday on our Twitter. We have the full schedule
pinned. We're basically going to be at
the Planet Hollywood on Thursday and then we'll be over at Park
MGM all day Friday, including our party 7:00 PM swing try.
You can hit us up if you have questions, details.
Leonie, any final words here for us before we head out?
Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm drowning a little bit trying to get
everything ready for the start of the season.
But we're going to have some NFLDFS, tournament Sims over at
the Solver, which is going to be really cool.
You know, we're hoping to have that ready week one.
If we do, it's going to be free and for anyone to try out and
see how that goes. And we'll have all our usual DFS
stuff and prop stuff at ETR. We spent a ton of time like
investing in an analytics team to work with me this past
offseason, so I'm pretty excited about the stuff we're putting
out. Yeah, can't wait to dig into
that Gratch Pat. Any final words before we play
our announcement video about what our plans are going to be
here in season? I think we roll the video.
I think I'm curious if we know ball.
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