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Yeah, and really, really excited
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hoping that you would accept 
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So pump that you did, and 
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into into these charts with you.
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Gosh, I mean, I know that every 
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so chaotic and there's so much 
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course, man. 
That's what the game is, that we

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You know, spending months in the
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projecting things. 
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road now, so it's time to get 
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Yeah, with we thought with that 
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So we are going to start off 
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and rushing production chart. 
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things. 
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metric, it based in. 
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punishes interceptions. 
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pure how good were you at at 
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Obviously, data that is a good 
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of good productive offenses, and
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that Who has had a. 
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push down rate, if you see a guy
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then high at touchdown rate, 
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possibly an outlier and and 
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to we're trying to sort of gauge
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that as a kind of gauge for a 
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there anybody here who who 
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I think and and obviously since 
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of sample like a lot of this is 
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quantitative side of the data, 
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the qualitative side too. 
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that one type of data is 
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the other, but they just, it's 
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know, and being able to mesh the
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best actionable takeaways. 
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see Jordan Love up there with 
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adjusted yards per attempt, 
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thinking #1 like, OK, Jordan 
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Jordan Love probably is going to
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functional NFL quarterback this 
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Right. 
Sorry, I am. 

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One of one of the things that 
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like the more extreme, the 
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100%. 
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much because even if you say 
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above what his base TD rate is 
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in the range of outcomes for 
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And so this just means that this
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long right tail where this was 
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gonna be. 
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you know, is a competent NFL 
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of feeling about it is that like
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if the market and and and 
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like waiver markets and there's 
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coming up. 
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it's a pretty that that's a 
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it, it costs you nothing to take
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something to watch out for like 
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and he's in that range like 
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pretty bullish. 
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the NBA jams you know heating up
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If Jordan Love is doing this 
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market overreaction to the 
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So for example, someone like 
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size of that data point, you 
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a surprise to anyone. 
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run and he didn't have a great 
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the market and Oh my gosh, we 
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enough to sustain DJ Moore and 
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that offense, you know, I'm 
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because he absolutely has that 
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You know, you look at how much 
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The only person with, you know, 
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sort of stands out to me and 
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performance he produced Stafford
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rate and that that does seem 
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know if if Stafford still has it
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passers that is so efficient 
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creates that he creates enough 
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really compete. 
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very price sensitive on him. 
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like guys like Jared Goff and 
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Stafford probably belongs in 
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and was somehow I taught going 
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like a kind of like. 
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defense that he might he might 
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imagining him to be. 
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sort of like sort of average. 
Is that a, is that alarming to 

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you at all? 
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It is a little concerning to me.
I definitely want more sample. 

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Again, it's a, it's a brand new 
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So I'm still I'm leaving a light
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But this it wasn't encouraging 
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one week of data hard to draw 
you know too many huge 

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defense, I I think they're bad, 
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to be as bad as the market 
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mean, I didn't watch the entire 
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that I watched and from a little
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think we might have oversold how
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I think they're bad, but I I 
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like the absolute Stonewars 
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There, there. 
There's still some NFL talent on

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their defense, is what you're 
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so maybe a little bit of concern
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yeah maybe we need a couple more
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Rate really want to adjust 
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The other the other guy I'm 
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first game I think it was he's 
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or something ridiculous and like
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So that wasn't ideal to see, but
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great defense. 
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that game, Oh my gosh, I'm going
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Purdy elves this season. 
It's going to be pretty painful 

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I I did not pack enough Purdy. 

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that trend continues or if at 
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pumpkin. 
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the L on that one right now. 
He's he's probably gonna be a 

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pretty solid you know. 
Yeah, fringe, you know, Bottom 

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end QB one, like, definitely 
squarely in the QB two 

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conversation week after week. 
And he'll have those upside game

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when he when he captures a lot 
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when it's just all passing 
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touchdowns, you're gonna be 
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happy he's on your team. 
I agree with that on Purdy and I

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think I might be a little bit 
more concerned about picket than

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than you and and some of that. 
So obviously we've only we've 

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only got the week 1 sample size,
but if if I'm also looking for 

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extra data points I go back to 
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He didn't say he didn't play 
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and then as a college player 
other than a senior year he was 

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pretty brutal and so he goes he 
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capital and he did have that 
amazing senior year and but I I 

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I think with enough kind of like
alternative data points I'm I'm 

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completely ready to be wrong on 
this. 

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I'm definitely pretty concerned 
about Pickett after. 

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Pretty brutal, that first game, 
Yeah, one of the last. 

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The last one that I really 
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look at Desmond Ritter, he 
doesn't look that bad on this 

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chart, but right. 
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I mean, like the amount of past 
attempts to that team had, if 

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that trend holds, if that team 
only passes 18 * a game or even 

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23 * a game or 20, like, Oh my 
gosh, it's gonna be, yeah, not 

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good. 
So that's unfortunate. 

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And it's a man with a lot of 
Desmond Ritter. 

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Yeah, he was, definitely. 
He felt like a yeah, a good, a 

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good what you call it. 
A good kind of upside case given

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that he he's pretty fast. 
He's a good athlete. 

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You've got good weapons there 
and but yeah, very, yeah, very, 

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very concerning. 
Yeah, I think we need, we need 

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like an Arthur Smith head injury
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And one thing that I am saying 
and and and maybe to leave some 

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some kind of like candle on, 
they did have like I don't know 

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818 flays where they're ahead by
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year where they're wearing and 
trailing at games grips and it 

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just didn't matter. 
It didn't matter. 

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Maybe that's something where it 
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It's definitely bad, but maybe 
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As week one was, yeah, yeah, I 
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data points to know for sure. 
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soft. 
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getting leads in a in a lot of 
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never putting their foot on the 
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So that's. 
Concerning 18 POS attempts in in

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week 1 and so I'm I'm sort of 
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little bit on the fly as well 
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And it's like even even if what 
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and let's say that they they get
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You're looking at like 25 
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it's it's not really it's not 
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Yeah when you look at it. 
When you when you look at the 

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half offenses that are are 
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That, that, that that's not 
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And and if week one is to be 
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50% or something? 
It might have been even higher. 

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Was it was it 50% or 75%. 
I can't remember target share to

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the running backs like Oh my God
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throw the ball downfield like 
Kyle piss and and Drake London 

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just get none and like it like 
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Yes. 
That's all that's the thing I'll

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do about Desmond Render, though.
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that I thought might be worth 
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Bryce Young and so he they 
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quite a bit and but not only a 
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there. 
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So that that's one where I was 
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drafted a decent amount of that 
Bryce Young just because I was 

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like Oh well you know he's an 
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American is so confident that 
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something to take a stab on the 
the other way and that that's 

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one where I'm like you know like
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You need more than a week for. 
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sample size to decide that he's 
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something I'm keeping an eye on.
Yeah, I definitely am more 

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optimistic about Stroud. 
Not that he didn't look so great

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or anything, but they did allow 
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He had 44 attempts or something 
like that. 

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Yeah. 
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maybe this Houston staff is 
willing hey just let's get your 

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reps we're gonna need reps you 
know there we got some growing 

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pains to get through that's 
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And also like Nico Collins 
finally did what we've been 

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hoping Nico Collins would do for
his entire NFL career. 

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So and Robert Woods was involved
like that's a that's looking 

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like it might shape up to be a 
very fine last round best ball 

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pick. 
But yeah, like one of those. 

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Offenses that's that's like not 
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enough to create these kind of 
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Hundred 100% Ohh and sorry I had
the million last things but the 

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Mac Jones that that offense. 
I mean the thesis wasn't that 

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hard to get behind. 
Like, hey, you had the 

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Stonewurst offensive coordinator
that's been in the league in the

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last two decades calling plays 
last year, and it can't be 

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worse. 
You know, it literally can't be 

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worse. 
And Mac Jones threw for 3800 

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yards as a rookie. 
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rookie, he had all these 
weapons. 

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It was like, well, that's why he
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It was, it's the same cast of 
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I could still Devante Parker and
Kendrick Bourne and Hunter 

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Henry. 
And so I think the market went 

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way too far the other way on Mac
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I think that's gonna be he 
doesn't he doesn't even have to 

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be good. 
He doesn't have to be good to 

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crush his price. 
You know, like, right, if he 

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better than Stroud and Dobbs and
Young and Tannehill and, you 

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know, I don't. 
I don't think Daniel Jones is 

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gonna be putting up stinkers 
quite as bad as this past week. 

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But like what What if Mac Jones 
is better than Daniel Jones. 

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You know, like couldn't couldn't
not be in the range of outcomes 

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of like we were taking Mac Jones
in the 18th round and Daniel 

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Jones in the tenth round. 
Like this thing? 

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Yeah, I definitely agree. 
And I think with how efficiently

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priced quarterbacks have been, 
you get in our performance even 

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later, it can be really helpful.
So that's here we go. 

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So now. 
Now we've got the Orbi Snaps and

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usage chart and and just I. 
Gotta zoom out just a tiny bit 

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on this one. 
Ohh. 

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I do, I do. 
I do. 

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I do exit cancel. 
While you while you work on 

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getting that zoomed, some of the
stuff that I saw at first when I

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put this together was. 
Oh my goodness. 

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James Connor might have some of 
the best usage for where his 

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where he was priced in the 
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Couldn't care less. 
The other one that I saw right 

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away that I looked at was dear 
God, Naji Harris. 

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What were we doing? 
Anyone who has drafted Naji 

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Harris out there, you want to 
tell me what we were doing? 

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You know, with Naji in the 
fourth round, like. 

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I'm I'm pretty sure the actual 
if if we had a time machine and 

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we could port ourselves to week 
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even just this single data 
point. 

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Like is it the efficient price 
for Naji Harris and Jalen 

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Warren? 
Like both of them in the 10th or

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11th round? 
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each other in A and and and so 
just just to to to to emphasize 

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that point. 
So I think Naji Harris is 

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probably a good one to to to 
kind of explain what this chart 

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is. 
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their rush attempts, their their
roots and and different blocking

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and snaps as a percentage of the
total offense. 

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So if you add up and you see 
where's Naji you can see that 

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what we're saying here is Naji 
was only on the field for the 

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Steelers offense 50% of the time
and then a large the large 

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amount of that time was actually
route running which that 

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definitely nice a small 
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but this at 50% as you can see 
in the kind of hierarchy of 

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starters here it's pretty low 
down the totem pole and not not 

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encouraging for for Naji 
drafters at all. 

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I don't think it definitely this
does this does go a decent 

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amount towards I guess the the 
bearer thesis for Naji and so 

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sack. 
One thing that this does make me

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think, especially with the with 
the high root share, do you 

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think that his overall kind of 
like market share on snaps was 

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low because the the Steelers 
were getting spun throughout? 

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Yeah, absolutely. 
They passed. 

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What was it, 7075% of their 
place were passed place. 

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And so that's definitely, yeah, 
that's definitely a function, 

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you know that. 
That's why you see so many 

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routes for Naji Harris. 
And the other thing is the 

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routes are encouraging to see 
for players that can earn 

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targets, and he's not. 
That dude, you know, like, 

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right. 
The last time Naji got targeted 

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was when Big Ben's noodle arm 
couldn't get the ball more than 

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five yards down the field and it
had to be Naji or it had to be 

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Deontay. 
And those are the only options 

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in the passing game. 
And so I don't really think, 

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like, you know, if we look at 
Naji Harris's routes that he's 

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running versus say, like, I 
mean, shoot, Dalvin Cook didn't 

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look great either. 
But even like the Dalvin Cook 

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routes like. 
And at least he got some 

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targets, you know, like, I mean,
shoot, Tyler Algier, like Tyler 

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Algier got some targets, like 
so. 

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Yeah, empty calorie routes, 
empty calorie routes. 

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He had like 3 expected receiving
points, which is it's, it's, 

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it's that's pretty, pretty bad. 
He had 24 routes in all and was 

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only able to sort of convert 
that into tree expected 

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receiving points. 
And so even in trail like it 

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used to be like you said in in 
in the kind of peak Naji year. 

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It used to be that even in 
trailing scripts he was just 

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this workhorse. 
So he was going to be running 

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routes, he's going to be 
targeting targeted. 

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So really, your own your only 
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Naji? 
Yeah. 

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As it stands, what we're looking
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really good and that they're 
they're getting Naji to go line 

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and he's following into 
touchdowns. 

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Yep, yeah, right. 
Very, very well put. 

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Couldn't agree more. 
Other concerning points on this 

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chart. 
I saw Derek mentioned Derek 

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Henry in the chat. 
This one is not as concerning to

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me. 
I know it looks bad here, but 

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Taji Spears is on the field. 
To do the stuff where it didn't 

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they needed a warm body at the 
running back position and now 

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Taje was was involved in the 
passing game. 

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He's running routes and doing 
things like that. 

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But I don't necessarily think 
it's terribly bullish for 

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Derrick Henry. 
It's just they're they're trying

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to be smart with how they're 
using him when it's when it 

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could literally be anybody that 
they they've got a job that they

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need done on a play and it can 
literally just be a a warm body.

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They're gonna keep Henry off the
field and then when it's, you 

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know when they wanna call his 
number, he's gonna be in there. 

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So his SNAP percentage 
definitely is concerning. 

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You know, it's, I don't think 
it's bullish for Henry, but it's

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not as concerning as it looks. 
The one that's actually 

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concerning to me and this is for
a couple factors that don't show

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up on the chart is Damian 
Pierce. 

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So we'll probably talk a little 
bit about this backfield later. 

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But Mike Boone got like all the 
two-minute work and so that was 

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concerning where Damien Pierce 
is going to be losing out on 

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some of those high value touches
there. 

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And it's not like we expected 
him to be terribly involved in 

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the past game either. 
But their offensive line is just

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decimated. 
You know Thorman's line rankings

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show that. 
What are they missing like 3 

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starters right now and they're 
they're just rolling out, you 

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know, future bag boys at Safeway
right now on the line. 

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And so it's. 
I'm not bullish on the 

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efficiency, the rush efficiency 
of that offense. 

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He's getting less work than we 
anticipated. 

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And it could have just been 
because they're getting, you 

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know, getting beat bad by the 
Ravens. 

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But the game was close for a 
little while and Singletary got 

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a little bit and boom, got a 
little bit. 

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I just to me, it's not super 
exciting for Damien Davis. 

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Dead zone running. 
Back. 

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Yeah, he oh it's dude that's the
that's the hallmark. 

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You know who else looked like a 
dead zone running back? 

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Oh my goodness. 
Alexander Madison slappies. 

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Where are you at? 
Raise your hand when you're 

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drafting Alexander Madison. 
You know in the 50s and 60s 

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because you're all, you're all 
the biggest slappies. 

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If you're just doing the Madison
thing there, that was like the 

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clearest Hammer it all the way 
until like pick 80 when he 

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shoots up and Dalvin gets cut. 
And then don't touch it with a 

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10 foot pole because it's just 
you're paying for projectable 

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volume. 
For a guy that's never been 

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good. 
He he is always even in the 

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games where he got like 30 
opportunities he wasn't good. 

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He just like he just got four 
fed carries and yeah man not not

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super excited about Alexander 
Madison after what I saw. 

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I mean the usage is great, but 
if you if he played terrible. 

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He played terrible if you play 
like that for. 

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By Week 10, if Alexander Madison
doesn't start turning in 

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performances that are better 
than he showed in week one, you 

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know good luck keeping that 
usage. 

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That's other other dudes are 
coming for that work so it 

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probably helps him slightly and 
I'm I think on the record pretty

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strongly as being pretty anti 
Madison. 

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It probably does help him a 
little bit that they paid him 

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like solidish money and but 
they're really they're not 

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paying him anywhere near enough 
to like it for him to get away 

446
00:28:43,850 --> 00:28:48,090
with my so he he had -5 points 
over expected. 

447
00:28:48,090 --> 00:28:52,370
So five points under expected 
and which means he played pretty

448
00:28:52,370 --> 00:29:00,130
ass and as our friend as our 
friend, Clay said. 

449
00:29:00,450 --> 00:29:06,170
And you it's just especially in 
when you get into a week, into 

450
00:29:06,170 --> 00:29:09,090
the later weeks of the season 
that that's just, it's not a 

451
00:29:09,290 --> 00:29:13,170
helpful profile. 
And so that's probably a more 

452
00:29:13,170 --> 00:29:20,490
helpful nugget for, let's say, 
resurrection and what you call 

453
00:29:20,490 --> 00:29:25,630
it. 
DFS and for redraft too. 

454
00:29:25,630 --> 00:29:28,430
Like for for anyone out in the 
redraft streets. 

455
00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:31,470
Like if you can move if you can 
move Madison, I mean it. 

456
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:34,830
It's not like you got a great 
performance in week 1 to go sell

457
00:29:34,830 --> 00:29:36,710
high on. 
But like if you could tell the 

458
00:29:36,710 --> 00:29:40,350
volume story to your league 
mates that really love the 

459
00:29:40,350 --> 00:29:43,750
projectable volume for running 
backs like you can get out from 

460
00:29:43,750 --> 00:29:45,630
under. 
Yeah, you can get out from under

461
00:29:45,630 --> 00:29:49,430
Alexander Vadison here. 
So one of the you might feel 

462
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:54,480
like you're selling low and well
maybe maybe you're selling high,

463
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:58,800
you're selling while he has the 
role and and maybe he keeps the 

464
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,280
role, but if he it doesn't help 
you. 

465
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,600
I I would anticipate he keeps 
this role for longer. 

466
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,880
We're we're all going to be 
frustrated with how long Madison

467
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:09,680
has this role this season, 
right? 

468
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,760
Yeah agree. 
So if you're if you're really 

469
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,680
trying to play it optimally, 
maybe wait for a big week and 

470
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:18,160
you you get off him. 
But I am not excited for Madison

471
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:23,170
going forward. 
One of the other guys on this 

472
00:30:23,170 --> 00:30:26,650
chart who might might appear to 
be really attractive where this 

473
00:30:26,650 --> 00:30:29,570
is this is just noise to me, is 
Deon Jackson. 

474
00:30:30,290 --> 00:30:33,050
Deon Jackson looked bad. 
He had two fumbles. 

475
00:30:33,050 --> 00:30:36,690
He really only got all these 
snaps because Evan Hole, the 

476
00:30:36,690 --> 00:30:41,090
most talented back on the roster
currently other than JT, got 

477
00:30:41,090 --> 00:30:44,290
injured. 
And you know you got Zach Moss 

478
00:30:44,290 --> 00:30:46,050
with a broken arm. 
And so it's like, all right, 

479
00:30:46,170 --> 00:30:49,300
Deon, we're just gonna. 
I guess you're the guy. 

480
00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:52,500
So is, is he? 
I guess you're the guy. 

481
00:30:52,500 --> 00:30:55,660
Yeah, going for the next two 
weeks or so until. 

482
00:30:55,820 --> 00:30:59,620
I I think that Moss may be able 
to be back next week. 

483
00:31:00,180 --> 00:31:01,900
Not that that's terribly 
exciting either. 

484
00:31:02,140 --> 00:31:04,580
I for me that backfield is just 
a stay away. 

485
00:31:05,180 --> 00:31:09,740
Yeah, for right now I because we
don't think he's he's the we 

486
00:31:09,740 --> 00:31:12,940
don't think he's getting this 
usage or he's like a strong case

487
00:31:13,180 --> 00:31:19,180
for this usage going forward and
then not at not as strong yeah 

488
00:31:19,180 --> 00:31:22,540
not a strong player. 
Yeah, even even if he does get 

489
00:31:22,540 --> 00:31:24,660
this, pretend he gets this usage
one more week. 

490
00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:27,260
I don't care. 
You know, like give me someone 

491
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:29,900
with way less usage that could 
actually do something with it. 

492
00:31:31,380 --> 00:31:38,100
So yeah and so I know this is a 
ship chasing at rudder pod start

493
00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:41,340
chasing and but we can't spend 
the whole time shooting on 

494
00:31:41,660 --> 00:31:49,480
running backs and speaking so 
talking about more positive 

495
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,720
running backs. 
So Travis ETN and being top of 

496
00:31:53,720 --> 00:32:00,760
the chart for Orbi usage and and
given how good we know he is and

497
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:06,680
let's say so he was going I know
he was going like let's say 3-4 

498
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:15,050
turn and maybe maybe four round 
and in normal regular basketball

499
00:32:15,050 --> 00:32:21,250
season and how what do you think
is like an efficient ADP going 

500
00:32:21,250 --> 00:32:25,450
into resurrection now. 
Yep, squarely. 

501
00:32:25,450 --> 00:32:28,770
The beginning of the third, like
2-3, turn right before that 

502
00:32:28,770 --> 00:32:31,210
tier. 
So if you go back to where we 

503
00:32:31,210 --> 00:32:34,250
were drafting this summer, 
there's that big, precipitous 

504
00:32:34,250 --> 00:32:37,370
teardrop, right, right, right at
the end of the two, three. 

505
00:32:37,810 --> 00:32:40,730
Turn. 
Whereas like T Higgins is the 

506
00:32:40,730 --> 00:32:42,690
last stop on the wide receiver 
train. 

507
00:32:42,930 --> 00:32:46,090
And then you're staring down 
like DK Metcalf, Keenan Allen, 

508
00:32:46,090 --> 00:32:51,810
Debo Samuel type of guys. 
And I I think that ETN goes 

509
00:32:51,810 --> 00:32:54,370
ahead of all of that type of 
wide receiver. 

510
00:32:54,610 --> 00:32:57,690
Now the names, the names may 
change a little bit. 

511
00:32:57,690 --> 00:33:00,530
You know, like Calvin Ridley now
is gonna be pretty squarely in 

512
00:33:00,530 --> 00:33:03,370
the second round for receivers. 
Yeah, he he was creeping up. 

513
00:33:04,700 --> 00:33:08,860
But I think that he's Etn's 
probably pretty squarely that 

514
00:33:08,860 --> 00:33:12,620
2-3 turn. 
He's the first back after the 

515
00:33:12,620 --> 00:33:16,220
wide receiver cut off. 
Yeah, yeah, I think so. 

516
00:33:16,220 --> 00:33:20,100
And my I mean my thesis on ETN 
this offseason was you heard 

517
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:23,710
everyone talk about how he was. 
A zero in the passing game. 

518
00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:26,670
He wasn't good. 
You know, you're really that if 

519
00:33:26,670 --> 00:33:30,390
you're hoping for for passing 
game work from ETN, you're just 

520
00:33:30,390 --> 00:33:32,470
wish casting. 
You know, he wasn't even good at

521
00:33:32,470 --> 00:33:33,750
it in college. 
It just was. 

522
00:33:33,990 --> 00:33:35,630
He was the best player on the 
field. 

523
00:33:36,350 --> 00:33:38,790
But we're ignoring one important
thing. 

524
00:33:39,070 --> 00:33:43,350
These are professional athletes.
They are the best in the world 

525
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:47,390
at their craft and believe it or
not, with the best coaching 

526
00:33:47,390 --> 00:33:49,550
around them they've ever had in 
their whole life. 

527
00:33:50,130 --> 00:33:52,650
They can actually improve 
sometimes at things that they 

528
00:33:52,650 --> 00:33:54,570
might not have previously been 
great at. 

529
00:33:54,930 --> 00:33:58,330
And so he didn't even. 
He doesn't need to be you know 

530
00:33:58,330 --> 00:34:00,930
an Alvin Kamara level talent in 
the receiving game. 

531
00:34:01,010 --> 00:34:04,130
He he just needs to be someone 
that they can use in the 

532
00:34:04,130 --> 00:34:07,690
receiving game and certainly 
think he's better than Tank 

533
00:34:07,690 --> 00:34:10,850
Bigsby in the receiving game. 
The concerning note for him was 

534
00:34:10,850 --> 00:34:13,489
Tank Bigsby did get those Green 
Zone touches over him. 

535
00:34:13,850 --> 00:34:17,210
He got the one at like the five 
or six and and pushed it all the

536
00:34:17,210 --> 00:34:20,050
way down to the one with that 
big pile and then he got the. 

537
00:34:20,130 --> 00:34:24,850
Carry to plunge in the end zone 
right after that and ETN wasn't 

538
00:34:24,850 --> 00:34:27,010
good at the goal line last 
season, right, Those short 

539
00:34:27,010 --> 00:34:29,570
yardage things, that was a place
where he struggled. 

540
00:34:29,610 --> 00:34:34,810
So, right, it's not all sunshine
and roses for ETN, but overall 

541
00:34:34,810 --> 00:34:40,290
I'm trending bullish on ETN and 
I, you know I I like guys that 

542
00:34:40,290 --> 00:34:42,130
can deliver explosive plays like
that. 

543
00:34:42,130 --> 00:34:45,370
And if he does actually take a 
step forward in his involvement 

544
00:34:45,370 --> 00:34:48,290
in the passing game that's 
that's a great sign for him. 

545
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:55,270
Yeah I I agree and and I mean 
I'm sort of like I'm actually 

546
00:34:55,389 --> 00:34:59,590
thinking that he should I tend 
to really overreact and and 

547
00:34:59,590 --> 00:35:03,710
maybe this so fade my 
overreaction and and stay closer

548
00:35:03,710 --> 00:35:10,310
to to Sachs more modest or 
moderate in in stride reaction. 

549
00:35:10,630 --> 00:35:14,550
I sort of think that if the if 
that usage continues, I think 

550
00:35:14,550 --> 00:35:19,400
he's like literally a first 
round value and like you talk 

551
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:24,760
about sort of like 10 double 
double s. 

552
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,880
So like 10 expected rushing 
points or say 10 expected points

553
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:31,880
from rushing and then ten 
expected points from passing. 

554
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:38,240
He was like 8 1/2 and eight and 
for yesterday and then he had 

555
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:40,040
almost five points over 
expected. 

556
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:47,480
So that seems to me like a 
really like like if and I I sort

557
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:51,280
of believe what happened 
yesterday maybe I'm biased and 

558
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:57,280
but I if I if I believe that I'm
like that's a pretty strong like

559
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:04,400
case for 20 to 25 points a game 
and which to me maybe maybe that

560
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,120
doesn't count as first round 
anymore and but to me that that 

561
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:13,360
that feels like total total 
smash running back and and it 

562
00:36:13,360 --> 00:36:15,720
would be really hard for me to 
not just click them every time 

563
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:18,550
in a second. 
OK, maybe maybe I didn't come up

564
00:36:18,550 --> 00:36:20,190
high enough. 
Because when I think about it in

565
00:36:20,190 --> 00:36:23,270
my head, I'm like, yes, I'm 
taking Travis Etn over Sake 1 

566
00:36:23,270 --> 00:36:27,430
Barkley, but I was, I was moving
Barkley down, but maybe I just 

567
00:36:27,430 --> 00:36:30,990
didn't move ETN up enough. 
I don't, I think first round, 

568
00:36:31,070 --> 00:36:33,190
where would you put impressive 
Pollard, for example? 

569
00:36:33,630 --> 00:36:35,990
I would still take Pollard over 
ETN. 

570
00:36:35,990 --> 00:36:38,590
We We didn't get to see a ton of
Pollard just because of the 

571
00:36:38,710 --> 00:36:41,590
absolute dog walking the Cowboys
gave the clients. 

572
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:46,780
But Pollard, it Pollard is the. 
And that's like the ceiling 

573
00:36:46,780 --> 00:36:51,460
outcome for ETN right? 
Like I I feel like #1 the 

574
00:36:51,460 --> 00:36:54,540
offensive line is better he's 
he's gonna have more yards just 

575
00:36:54,540 --> 00:36:56,860
blocked for him Pollard is than 
ETN. 

576
00:36:57,620 --> 00:36:59,940
They both can deliver those 
explosive rushing plays. 

577
00:37:00,260 --> 00:37:04,460
But Pollard we know is a big 
plus in the passing game like he

578
00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:10,020
he's he's a good pass catching 
back and so ETN we're we're 

579
00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:13,460
hoping that he's now like not a 
minus in the passing game that 

580
00:37:13,460 --> 00:37:16,790
he's he's able to contribute. 
I think it's it's a lot to say. 

581
00:37:16,790 --> 00:37:19,110
Like Ohh all of a sudden he went
from being really bad in the 

582
00:37:19,110 --> 00:37:21,830
passing game to being incredible
like Tony Pollard is. 

583
00:37:23,030 --> 00:37:25,790
So I I'm trying to think if 
there's someone that would be 

584
00:37:25,790 --> 00:37:29,110
between Pollard and ETN right? 
Or. 

585
00:37:29,110 --> 00:37:31,910
If it's just Pollard than ETN 
because he's he's better than 

586
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:35,830
Barkley, where where do you put 
Chubb relative to those two? 

587
00:37:37,190 --> 00:37:43,110
Chubb is a hard one for me and 
I've I I I've always found it 

588
00:37:43,110 --> 00:37:51,070
really hard to to take Chub and 
and I do find honestly I find it

589
00:37:51,070 --> 00:37:54,270
pretty strange or or not strange
at all. 

590
00:37:54,270 --> 00:37:59,230
I I find it sort of like 
confirmation for me that after 

591
00:37:59,310 --> 00:38:04,950
all the hype all this all the 
steam and such that Chub was now

592
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:11,610
going to have this turned down 
role that he was what you call 

593
00:38:11,610 --> 00:38:15,970
it that he that he he was now 
like pure and enter bell cow 

594
00:38:15,970 --> 00:38:24,010
territory and then he still he 
still seems fairly close to to 

595
00:38:24,010 --> 00:38:29,770
what he was before and so I I I 
I feel like he's he he's like 

596
00:38:29,770 --> 00:38:36,170
probably like a fine second 
round two tree turn back and so.

597
00:38:36,790 --> 00:38:39,390
You'd put him squarely behind 
ETN and Pollard, though. 

598
00:38:39,390 --> 00:38:40,910
That sounds like a tear break 
for you. 

599
00:38:40,910 --> 00:38:43,990
Almost. 
Yeah, I would. 

600
00:38:44,030 --> 00:38:47,550
And that that's one where I 
probably don't play it like that

601
00:38:47,550 --> 00:38:51,350
in in week to week games just 
because I know what Chuck can 

602
00:38:51,350 --> 00:38:54,710
do. 
But in season, in season long 

603
00:38:55,390 --> 00:39:02,870
and it does feel like the the 
sort of path for for ETN and and

604
00:39:02,870 --> 00:39:06,990
Pollard to deliver, it just 
smashed performance. 

605
00:39:07,070 --> 00:39:09,030
It does seem a little clearer to
me. 

606
00:39:10,150 --> 00:39:15,910
Yeah, so I last night after I 
changed my pants after the first

607
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:23,190
breeze haul run, I made a slight
overreaction RB tier list and it

608
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:32,190
was breeze tear break, CMC tear 
break, then Eckler Bijan ETN, 

609
00:39:32,270 --> 00:39:36,310
Pollard tear break. 
And that was that was kind of 

610
00:39:36,310 --> 00:39:40,510
the way that I had it sorted 
sounds like sounds like we're 

611
00:39:40,510 --> 00:39:47,950
pretty close and sounds like 
we're so is there anybody else, 

612
00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:52,070
I mean Kenneth Walker obviously 
pretty strong usage there, we'd 

613
00:39:52,070 --> 00:39:57,030
love to see that and Bijon 
decent usage. 

614
00:39:57,550 --> 00:40:00,230
Is there anybody else on on this
chart that you want there? 

615
00:40:01,090 --> 00:40:07,170
Ohh I mean we we can't bury bury
Kyron news because Kyron's Kyron

616
00:40:07,170 --> 00:40:10,010
is the back there. 
Like I mean yeah Sean yeah Sean 

617
00:40:10,010 --> 00:40:14,490
McVeigh hates Cam Acres and has 
has been pretty vocal about that

618
00:40:14,490 --> 00:40:18,570
he doesn't like Cam Acres and 
and we we had the drum beat from

619
00:40:18,570 --> 00:40:21,810
Kyron all the way through last 
you know last offseason we're 

620
00:40:21,810 --> 00:40:25,910
getting the Kyron drum beat and 
the team the team told us 

621
00:40:25,910 --> 00:40:28,870
exactly how they feel about 
their backs and then they went 

622
00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:30,790
out and showed us what they 
wanna do with them. 

623
00:40:31,390 --> 00:40:35,110
So I would just say now Kyron is
he's a sub athlete. 

624
00:40:35,110 --> 00:40:38,350
He's not right. 
It's not gonna be anything 

625
00:40:38,350 --> 00:40:40,990
terribly exciting but if he gets
he's a coach. 

626
00:40:42,190 --> 00:40:46,990
Yeah, he's a coach's son and 
he's like a low end RV2 for me 

627
00:40:46,990 --> 00:40:51,450
where it's like, I mean Ed is 
where he was going, like my God,

628
00:40:51,450 --> 00:40:54,530
what an absolute gem. 
If you drafted Kyron like, 

629
00:40:54,530 --> 00:40:57,490
congratulations, that's looking 
really good. 

630
00:40:58,050 --> 00:41:02,250
But. 
I guess the question is, so 

631
00:41:02,250 --> 00:41:08,170
obviously we love what we see 
and great outcome for the late 

632
00:41:08,170 --> 00:41:13,890
round drafters and the two 
questions I would have is, is 

633
00:41:13,890 --> 00:41:17,290
Kyron someone where when you're 
bidding on waivers? 

634
00:41:17,710 --> 00:41:20,830
That you just like, you know 
what, I don't care if I have to 

635
00:41:20,830 --> 00:41:23,830
pay 6070%, I'm just going to do 
it. 

636
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:29,550
And then other similary, let's 
say I know he's cheap, he's he's

637
00:41:29,670 --> 00:41:33,870
going to be super cheap on 
DraftKings next week and let's 

638
00:41:33,870 --> 00:41:40,110
say he's projecting for like 60%
ownership like that. 

639
00:41:40,110 --> 00:41:41,270
Those are two different 
questions. 

640
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:42,590
I know. 
I like what? 

641
00:41:43,150 --> 00:41:46,190
Hey, what are what are you doing
on bids and and and are are are 

642
00:41:46,190 --> 00:41:47,750
you jamming them at high 
ownership? 

643
00:41:47,750 --> 00:41:53,630
Because I know you're avid and 
good DFS player on on waivers. 

644
00:41:53,630 --> 00:41:56,830
For Kyron, it depends largely on
my team, right? 

645
00:41:56,830 --> 00:41:59,590
If I'm in need of a running 
back, that's a guy where I'm 

646
00:41:59,590 --> 00:42:02,790
like, hey, this is not a zero 
this week. 

647
00:42:03,270 --> 00:42:06,670
This is a guy where I can plug 
this in and have some points. 

648
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:11,030
It might not be so terribly 
sexy, but you know, I I've got a

649
00:42:11,230 --> 00:42:14,870
redraft league with some buddies
where, you know, I I just lost 

650
00:42:14,870 --> 00:42:18,510
JK Dobbins. 
I'm sitting on DeAndre Swift and

651
00:42:19,070 --> 00:42:23,310
Rashad Penny and my only good 
running back is Breece Hall. 

652
00:42:23,750 --> 00:42:26,710
You know, I've got got a Sean 
Tucker stash in there, but like 

653
00:42:27,110 --> 00:42:30,470
on a team like that, yeah, I'm. 
I'm gonna pay up for Kyron. 

654
00:42:30,470 --> 00:42:32,590
I'm probably not getting to 
6070%. 

655
00:42:32,590 --> 00:42:36,830
I I want to save that. 
Like hypothetically, I'd never 

656
00:42:36,830 --> 00:42:40,510
wish this but hypothetically say
Austin Eckler misses extended 

657
00:42:40,510 --> 00:42:44,790
time, I'm going 6070% on Josh 
Kelly right. 

658
00:42:45,670 --> 00:42:49,790
That's that's the kind of play 
where I'm gonna put the chips in

659
00:42:49,790 --> 00:42:50,950
the middle. 
Kyron. 

660
00:42:50,990 --> 00:42:56,830
Kyron is more like a if you need
him you might go to 3035% and 

661
00:42:56,830 --> 00:42:57,950
way. 
I mean like. 

662
00:42:58,030 --> 00:43:00,990
Make make total sense to me and 
I would kind. 

663
00:43:01,190 --> 00:43:03,070
Of function you a little bit 
there because. 

664
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:07,860
This chart is so bullish that. 
I know that somebody would be 

665
00:43:07,860 --> 00:43:10,900
like, oh wow, like I just jam 
them. 

666
00:43:11,260 --> 00:43:17,900
And then maybe you wanna take a 
step back from there just with 

667
00:43:18,140 --> 00:43:21,180
the leticism. 
And then if that's where you're 

668
00:43:21,180 --> 00:43:25,380
at, it sounds like you're not 
playing about 60%. 

669
00:43:26,100 --> 00:43:28,300
I'd have to look at the whole 
slate for DFS. 

670
00:43:28,300 --> 00:43:33,440
It really depends on, you know 
everything and how it balances 

671
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:35,760
out together. 
But if he's like a legitimate 

672
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:38,560
free, if he's stoneman and he's 
free square, I can't remember 

673
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:40,360
who the Rams who do the Rams 
play next week? 

674
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:48,800
I don't know either, yeah. 
Anyway, I I mean, I I'm probably

675
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,600
not super excited to play him at
60% in tournaments, you know, 

676
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,000
but he definitely could be like 
a cash game play, just with 

677
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,480
strong usage price. 
Yeah it was more like a yeah 

678
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:05,200
what I was trying to get at was 
like do you think it's something

679
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,520
where he he he can get he can 
act delivery the smash 

680
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:13,080
performance and and and you're 
not really worried about the 

681
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:19,440
downside and it sounds like 
there is maybe maybe some some 

682
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,480
some concern there that this 
this is week one and we could we

683
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,240
could definitely still get sort 
of like a down to air game. 

684
00:44:27,750 --> 00:44:29,550
Yeah. 
Where Cam Makers comes up in 

685
00:44:29,550 --> 00:44:35,990
usage or he just plays bad. 
Yeah, I I could. 

686
00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:38,870
I definitely see the downside 
for Kyron. 

687
00:44:39,430 --> 00:44:42,110
But I I think for the most part 
like that's a quality waiver 

688
00:44:42,110 --> 00:44:46,150
pickup and you know, obviously 
totally paid off. 

689
00:44:46,270 --> 00:44:47,630
He paid off his draft costs 
already. 

690
00:44:47,630 --> 00:44:49,190
He gave you one. 
Yeah, you know, like. 

691
00:44:51,830 --> 00:44:55,230
There you go. 
I don't. 

692
00:44:58,150 --> 00:45:01,630
Yeah I I I feel like we we we've
talked about just everybody here

693
00:45:01,630 --> 00:45:04,350
that we wanted to was there 
anybody else. 

694
00:45:05,190 --> 00:45:09,910
I guess the Jamal Williams stuff
that's that's a role that's a 

695
00:45:09,910 --> 00:45:13,750
role that's there for the taken.
So if Kendra Miller's on your 

696
00:45:13,750 --> 00:45:18,590
waivers that's a that's a shot 
I'm taking you know you got you 

697
00:45:18,590 --> 00:45:23,210
got two good chances before 
Kamara comes back and I'm I 

698
00:45:23,210 --> 00:45:26,810
think Kamara is closer to going 
the way of Dalvin Cook than you 

699
00:45:26,810 --> 00:45:30,890
know being his old self. 
So who who knows maybe Kendra 

700
00:45:31,290 --> 00:45:35,170
has a good path even once Kamara
gets back if the competition's 

701
00:45:35,170 --> 00:45:39,650
not too terribly stiff but man 
Jamal Williams got a good amount

702
00:45:39,650 --> 00:45:42,210
of work and did absolutely 
nothing with it. 

703
00:45:42,210 --> 00:45:47,210
So it's it's wide open and it's 
a there's work there to be had. 

704
00:45:47,210 --> 00:45:49,810
So that that was one. 
I mean if you look at the it's 

705
00:45:49,810 --> 00:45:53,400
right there with James Conner 
like woo that's a lot of usage. 

706
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:58,480
So if Kendra could come in and 
take that as a 21 year old 

707
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:02,440
running back who we like the 
profile, that could be exciting.

708
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:06,680
Jamal Williams chart disguised 
as a Kendrick chart? 

709
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:15,080
Yes, yeah, absolutely. 
All right, and so now we go to 

710
00:46:15,080 --> 00:46:18,640
the sort of backups, the quote 
UN quote backups. 

711
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:28,170
Running backs. 
So I mean Tajay Spears we we we 

712
00:46:28,170 --> 00:46:36,770
did touch on him at JK Dobbins 
and yeah he he got hurt and then

713
00:46:37,810 --> 00:46:46,570
Jerome forward is I I think he's
interesting here and where I I I

714
00:46:46,690 --> 00:46:50,090
one thing that I've sort of 
observed of the Browns. 

715
00:46:50,590 --> 00:46:54,230
Is that no matter who they have 
at running back they always want

716
00:46:54,230 --> 00:46:57,590
to have some kind of committee 
and like it doesn't really 

717
00:46:57,590 --> 00:47:02,110
matter if you know who The Who 
the running backs name is. 

718
00:47:02,110 --> 00:47:07,790
Who's going to be the Orb Two 
that like the Orb two is going 

719
00:47:07,790 --> 00:47:10,670
to have some kind of role. 
It's never going to be in 8020 

720
00:47:10,790 --> 00:47:15,950
or at least it it's very rarely 
been for this coaching staff and

721
00:47:16,630 --> 00:47:20,210
so I think. 
He's he's definitely, he's 

722
00:47:20,210 --> 00:47:25,810
definitely a little interesting 
there as a pretty good I mean 

723
00:47:26,330 --> 00:47:29,050
how many he'll be available in 
home leagues probably not too 

724
00:47:29,050 --> 00:47:34,530
many high stakes sort of like 
deeper leagues and but 

725
00:47:34,530 --> 00:47:40,450
definitely that feels like a 
pretty pretty decent and pretty 

726
00:47:40,450 --> 00:47:42,890
decent value there. 
If you got him, probably not 

727
00:47:42,890 --> 00:47:46,330
playing him in DFS and can't 
imagine he's available on too 

728
00:47:46,330 --> 00:47:51,140
many wires like I said. 
But interesting, I think he is 

729
00:47:51,140 --> 00:47:54,740
an interesting play for getting,
for filling, sort of filling it 

730
00:47:54,740 --> 00:47:58,500
like an or B2 spot where you're 
just sort of getting points. 

731
00:47:59,060 --> 00:48:02,340
He did, he did get a lot of mop 
up duty after the game was out 

732
00:48:02,340 --> 00:48:05,060
of hand. 
I think 11 of his 50 degrees 

733
00:48:05,340 --> 00:48:08,650
came after the game was totally 
done. 

734
00:48:08,650 --> 00:48:11,570
I think it was like in the 
fourth quarter but you're. 

735
00:48:11,650 --> 00:48:15,250
I agree with you though that 
he's he is the clear RB 2, right

736
00:48:15,250 --> 00:48:18,890
he's he's the only running back 
that took any snaps on offense 

737
00:48:19,010 --> 00:48:22,250
other than Nick Chubb. 
Pierre Strong played special 

738
00:48:22,250 --> 00:48:26,290
teams so Jerome Ford's the RB 2.
Don't worry about Pierre Strong 

739
00:48:27,170 --> 00:48:29,490
and so he's definitely the 
handcuff in the event that 

740
00:48:29,490 --> 00:48:30,730
anything were to happen to 
Chubb. 

741
00:48:30,730 --> 00:48:35,210
He misses anytime, right. 
And he's he's fine. 

742
00:48:35,290 --> 00:48:39,590
You know there there might just 
like I I think it's probably 

743
00:48:39,590 --> 00:48:42,590
gonna be a lot closer to how 
Kareem Hunt was last season 

744
00:48:42,630 --> 00:48:46,510
where there's almost no week 
where you actually feel good if 

745
00:48:46,510 --> 00:48:50,710
you do choose to start him. 
But there's like 2 weeks where 

746
00:48:51,150 --> 00:48:53,430
he he pays off or he's he's 
fine. 

747
00:48:53,630 --> 00:48:56,430
You know it's a standalone 
value. 

748
00:48:56,430 --> 00:48:58,830
But yeah it's definitely, it's a
stash. 

749
00:48:58,910 --> 00:49:01,630
It's a bench stash for sure. 
And redraft a good handcuff 

750
00:49:01,630 --> 00:49:03,990
option? 
Definitely. 

751
00:49:03,990 --> 00:49:07,230
I mean, very, very clear signal 
that he's the RB 2 on that team.

752
00:49:09,270 --> 00:49:13,310
That that's that's definitely 
yeah that's definitely fair and 

753
00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:17,350
So what else stands out I I 
think it's interesting that you 

754
00:49:17,350 --> 00:49:22,350
see a couple of bears at running
backs here obviously you had a 

755
00:49:22,390 --> 00:49:26,550
you had Roshan and he had a lot 
he he he had a lot of high 

756
00:49:26,550 --> 00:49:31,270
efficiency so he actually 
delivered quite a good week and 

757
00:49:32,070 --> 00:49:34,600
but. 
I think it it it it is at least 

758
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:41,600
interesting that you have this 
pretty clear Treeway split like 

759
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,120
where you have Actually, no, I I
I just miss Herbert there. 

760
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:49,120
Herbert, Roshan and Danta there 
all in the in the backup running

761
00:49:49,120 --> 00:49:53,880
back chart. 
And it it it does feel like you 

762
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,000
you you need someone to either 
separate or someone to get 

763
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:03,240
injured The the a lot of the 
Roshan work came kind of in 

764
00:50:03,240 --> 00:50:06,400
garbage time. 
So I think with the garbage. 

765
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,360
Time stuff. 
Again, it would have games. 

766
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,520
It's that's that, you know, 
quantitative and qualitative 

767
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:15,040
flavors. 
You know, we gotta gotta get a 

768
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,760
little bit of both, you know, 
two scoops. 

769
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:21,600
But I I do think that you're 
likely looking at Khalil Herbert

770
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:24,360
and Donta Foreman, at least 
early in the season. 

771
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,160
It's not like I I think Roshan 
could absolutely carve out more 

772
00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:32,590
of a role as we go on. 
He looked fine to me. 

773
00:50:32,590 --> 00:50:35,630
I mean, I don't know Ball, but 
he looked fine. 

774
00:50:37,990 --> 00:50:43,350
So you think that in more 
neutral scripts or what you're 

775
00:50:43,350 --> 00:50:46,590
saying is in more neutral 
scripts, it's Herbert and then 

776
00:50:46,590 --> 00:50:48,350
Danta, Yeah. 
Yes. 

777
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:51,990
Yeah, that's it. 
I think that's interesting and 

778
00:50:51,990 --> 00:50:55,650
makes sense for sure. 
I I don't think Rochon gets no 

779
00:50:55,650 --> 00:50:59,050
snaps in neutral scripts but I 
think you know quite quite a bit

780
00:50:59,050 --> 00:51:05,010
of his work came in garbage time
got it and in a week two if if a

781
00:51:05,010 --> 00:51:07,810
different you know if it plays 
out differently if Rochon's on 

782
00:51:07,810 --> 00:51:11,770
the field more it maybe maybe it
just was hey when we're when 

783
00:51:11,770 --> 00:51:14,690
we're really needed to pass a 
lot we like Rochon as our 

784
00:51:14,690 --> 00:51:19,010
passing down back the most that 
I mean you you can kind of see 

785
00:51:19,010 --> 00:51:23,170
look at his pass blocking like I
think that's that does tell a 

786
00:51:23,170 --> 00:51:26,250
little bit of the story as well 
like he is the guy they prefer 

787
00:51:26,250 --> 00:51:30,130
to use in that long down right 
potentially so. 

788
00:51:30,890 --> 00:51:37,530
And so I know with the range 
that Herbert sort of crept up to

789
00:51:38,330 --> 00:51:43,770
late in the season that he might
he might have been if if a team 

790
00:51:43,770 --> 00:51:46,890
got, if a drafter team got an 
injury or something like that, 

791
00:51:47,410 --> 00:51:50,570
that he'd he'd sort of have 
would have been in consideration

792
00:51:50,570 --> 00:51:54,670
for. 
Starting as running back to and 

793
00:51:55,710 --> 00:51:58,510
I mean that this is the sort of 
thing that would make me say oh 

794
00:51:58,510 --> 00:52:03,750
OK you know actually unless 
things get really sort of dire 

795
00:52:04,070 --> 00:52:09,230
at running back I I'm not 
feeling good about starting yet 

796
00:52:09,230 --> 00:52:12,230
Khalil Herbert right now. 
No, I wouldn't I wouldn't be 

797
00:52:12,230 --> 00:52:16,230
super excited to plug him in not
not with much confidence right 

798
00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:18,790
now. 
You know, I, I it's almost like,

799
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,880
am I? 
It's still Herbert for me. 

800
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,480
But what I do Hubbard or Herbert
here, you know? 

801
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:32,000
Right And yeah and I think I 
think that is an interesting 

802
00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:41,440
different or or or comparison 
point where yeah I I do feel, I 

803
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:44,400
do feel like and and unless I'm,
I'm completely missing somebody 

804
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:48,400
and you have a a little bit more
there with with Shuba. 

805
00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:53,120
With the fact that it's it's a 
bit more of a sort of like 2 

806
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:59,680
back split and and so it only 
has one back to compete with to 

807
00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:06,760
to to increase his his his 
snapshare and and what you call 

808
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:12,040
I think the Panthers will are 
probably pretty likely to throw 

809
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:17,000
a good deal more so maybe have 
more pass attempts So that one 

810
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,080
that one does feel like. 
Definitely slide edge to Trueba 

811
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,360
to me. 
Yeah, I I I think they're close,

812
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,800
but you know it it's it's pretty
interesting where after we get 

813
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:33,080
one, you know one week's worth 
of data, a lot of stuff 

814
00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,960
especially in those later rounds
like yeah the the prices that we

815
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:40,040
had been paying for guys like it
starts to become clear. 

816
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,640
You know hey we had we had the 
wrong read here. 

817
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:44,840
We had too much confidence here 
or there and that's right. 

818
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,480
I mean that's just why, you 
know, picks after a certain 

819
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,920
point aren't worth anywhere near
as much as our early picks, cuz 

820
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:55,000
the degree of confidence we can 
have is so much lower so. 

821
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:01,680
And right, I agree there. 
And I think what you're alluding

822
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:06,240
to there is that Shuba went a 
good bit after Herbert. 

823
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,920
So it is interesting that 
they're at least close, yeah. 

824
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,150
And. 
Is there anybody else here that 

825
00:54:18,150 --> 00:54:22,030
you want to talk about before we
they'll show up on? 

826
00:54:22,670 --> 00:54:25,390
We do have two more running back
charts. 

827
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:28,030
I was gonna say they'll show up 
on the next chart, so I'll save 

828
00:54:28,030 --> 00:54:30,550
it for there. 
Yeah, good call. 

829
00:54:31,990 --> 00:54:36,590
So here we have our Rep So this 
is our expected fantasy points 

830
00:54:36,590 --> 00:54:40,510
and efficiency. 
So on the kind of bottom and 

831
00:54:41,310 --> 00:54:44,470
horizontal actions here we have 
rushing expected points. 

832
00:54:45,210 --> 00:54:48,610
And then on the on the to the 
left here we have our receiving 

833
00:54:48,610 --> 00:54:52,970
expected points and you see 
these lines that go across. 

834
00:54:53,370 --> 00:54:59,410
So this line here represents a 
total expected points of 15 

835
00:54:59,450 --> 00:55:03,530
expected points. 
And so you have Bijan here who's

836
00:55:03,530 --> 00:55:10,410
sort of like eightish and seven.
That's how he gets to 15 and and

837
00:55:11,490 --> 00:55:13,770
and then also the size of the 
bubble. 

838
00:55:14,310 --> 00:55:18,390
Is there points over expected, 
so bigger the bubble you see CMC

839
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:22,950
here and a lot of points over 
expected and then you have let's

840
00:55:22,950 --> 00:55:27,790
see Joe and Warren which 
definitely disappointing for the

841
00:55:28,910 --> 00:55:35,190
for us so far is that is low and
low points over expected. 

842
00:55:36,870 --> 00:55:39,790
I mean you can, you can look at 
the hallmark low points over 

843
00:55:39,790 --> 00:55:43,230
expected guys, Jamal Williams, 
Alexander Madison. 

844
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:49,160
So those are very uninspiring. 
I mean obviously McCaffrey 

845
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:53,280
stands out huge. 
You can see Josh Kelly, Josh 

846
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:58,160
Kelly ran hot on get a TD there,
but he looked good. 

847
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,400
And yeah, if Eckler would have 
missed any time, that's a very, 

848
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:06,480
very exciting potential ad 
there. 

849
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:11,870
Some of the other ones that 
stood out for me, you've got Gus

850
00:56:11,870 --> 00:56:16,110
Edwards way down there and 
that's that's because Gus is 

851
00:56:16,110 --> 00:56:17,830
getting the low calorie stuff 
man. 

852
00:56:17,870 --> 00:56:22,630
That's that's the guy where a 
between the 20s we want to run 

853
00:56:22,630 --> 00:56:27,670
someone's face directly into a 
£300 man a couple times just 

854
00:56:27,670 --> 00:56:30,470
establish it that's that's the 
Gus job. 

855
00:56:31,430 --> 00:56:35,270
So he's absolute zero in the 
passing game, right. 

856
00:56:35,270 --> 00:56:37,390
Like he's not gonna be involved 
there. 

857
00:56:38,710 --> 00:56:41,860
And and that is a wrinkle that 
I, you know we we saw a little 

858
00:56:41,860 --> 00:56:44,660
bit in Week 1 how many targets 
did Dobbin's. 

859
00:56:44,700 --> 00:56:46,980
It was Dobbin's 3 targets before
he got injured. 

860
00:56:46,980 --> 00:56:51,020
Like that's a lot for for what 
Dobbin right, had put up in his 

861
00:56:51,020 --> 00:56:53,060
career. 
So I think it's pretty clear 

862
00:56:53,060 --> 00:56:57,060
signal that this offense wants 
to involve the running backs in 

863
00:56:57,060 --> 00:56:59,900
the passing game more and 
they're doing more stuff at and 

864
00:56:59,900 --> 00:57:03,700
around the line of scrimmage as 
well just in the way that they 

865
00:57:03,700 --> 00:57:05,700
manufactured touches for his 
day. 

866
00:57:05,700 --> 00:57:09,940
Flowers. 
But yeah, Edwards is 1 where I 

867
00:57:09,940 --> 00:57:13,500
wanted to point that out because
we'll see his backfield mate on 

868
00:57:13,500 --> 00:57:16,260
the next chart. 
By the way, the way these charts

869
00:57:16,260 --> 00:57:18,540
are divvied up because we're 
gonna have two charts that are 

870
00:57:18,540 --> 00:57:21,620
both the running back expected 
fantasy points and efficiency 

871
00:57:21,620 --> 00:57:23,860
chart. 
There's too many backs to 

872
00:57:23,860 --> 00:57:25,820
display on one chart, it just 
gets too noisy. 

873
00:57:26,220 --> 00:57:30,260
So it's literally just a split 
between odd even on the guys in 

874
00:57:30,260 --> 00:57:33,340
the rankings on the fantasy 
points over expected. 

875
00:57:33,700 --> 00:57:36,140
So we're just oscillating that 
way. 

876
00:57:36,140 --> 00:57:39,210
One chart doesn't get all the 
all the scrubs and one gets all 

877
00:57:39,210 --> 00:57:40,850
the stars and they get all 
clumped together. 

878
00:57:40,850 --> 00:57:43,370
And explain Sorry. 
And what did you say is the 

879
00:57:43,370 --> 00:57:44,730
difference between this and the 
next one? 

880
00:57:45,010 --> 00:57:48,290
Yeah, they're just they're just 
ranked by fantasy points over 

881
00:57:48,290 --> 00:57:50,530
expected in a list. 
And then I just. 

882
00:57:52,050 --> 00:57:54,730
Alternate so the first chart is 
the even chart, the next one's 

883
00:57:54,730 --> 00:57:57,850
the odd chart, so that way you 
get good and bad running backs 

884
00:57:57,850 --> 00:57:58,530
on both. 
Charts. 

885
00:57:58,850 --> 00:57:59,650
OK, Gotcha. 
Gotcha. 

886
00:58:00,290 --> 00:58:02,890
One chart or something? 
Makes makes sense. 

887
00:58:03,290 --> 00:58:08,780
Makes sense, so that's. 
Just for anybody who used to the

888
00:58:08,780 --> 00:58:12,300
way it was done last year, last 
year was AFC and NFC and this 

889
00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:15,660
year it's sort of a random 
sampling in boat. 

890
00:58:16,300 --> 00:58:21,540
And just just because like like 
Sack said you, you need to be 

891
00:58:21,540 --> 00:58:23,620
able to see some of the details 
here. 

892
00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:26,900
Yeah, I got a little too clumped
with the divisions. 

893
00:58:26,900 --> 00:58:29,300
So I wanted to do it this way, 
spread it out a little bit. 

894
00:58:29,380 --> 00:58:30,060
Oh yeah. 
Yeah. 

895
00:58:30,060 --> 00:58:32,180
No, I think. 
I think that makes a lot of 

896
00:58:32,180 --> 00:58:36,260
sense. 
A guy that I I mean this 

897
00:58:36,300 --> 00:58:40,940
shouldn't be a just state secret
or anything but like Jamir Gibbs

898
00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:46,820
could with with only what was it
26% snaps or something like that

899
00:58:46,820 --> 00:58:53,140
like that's a that role is gonna
increase you know and I mean my 

900
00:58:53,140 --> 00:58:56,580
goodness he's he's one you know 
trip over his own shoestring 

901
00:58:56,580 --> 00:59:01,110
away from scoring a touchdown in
that game and putting me in solo

902
00:59:01,110 --> 00:59:03,790
first place on the showdown. 
We're not gonna dwell on it. 

903
00:59:04,830 --> 00:59:08,230
No I think Gibbs is 1 where we 
definitely are gonna see him 

904
00:59:08,230 --> 00:59:11,030
ascend. 
Montgomery got like an 

905
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:14,310
inordinate amount of the high 
value touches that game, right? 

906
00:59:14,430 --> 00:59:17,470
And I just don't, I do not think
that the running back they 

907
00:59:17,470 --> 00:59:21,610
drafted with early first round 
capital, who is specifically a 

908
00:59:21,610 --> 00:59:24,970
passing game specialist, is 
going to see passing game work 

909
00:59:24,970 --> 00:59:27,490
to David Montgomery at the rate 
that he did in week one. 

910
00:59:27,490 --> 00:59:30,530
I think that was purely like 
that's the Lions. 

911
00:59:30,690 --> 00:59:33,610
The Lions do a lot of stuff 
like, you know, the good 

912
00:59:33,610 --> 00:59:37,330
oldfashioned boomer organization
like they're they're not not the

913
00:59:37,330 --> 00:59:41,090
same as as some of the more 
boomer organizations, but they 

914
00:59:41,090 --> 00:59:43,690
definitely have that. 
You know, rookies are going to 

915
00:59:43,690 --> 00:59:46,370
earn their keep, I guess. 
Unless your name is Sam Laporta,

916
00:59:46,370 --> 00:59:48,730
my goodness, We'll talk about 
him when we get to tight ends. 

917
00:59:48,730 --> 00:59:52,640
But yeah, I think, I think Gibbs
is mostly a function of like, 

918
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:56,080
we're gonna gonna get you some 
reps here, but we're not gonna 

919
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,560
overload you early. 
But I I can see that. 

920
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:02,160
Increase easing you into your at
your first week in the NFL 

921
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:09,680
absolutely and so and question 
then would you and did game one 

922
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,880
and and what we're seeing here 
does that push you up or down on

923
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:17,800
where we're drafting at Gibbs in
in best Paul season. 

924
01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:22,600
For me it it it had already, the
price had already started to get

925
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:29,520
a tiny bit frothy on underdog in
half VPR, just like him creeping

926
01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:34,000
into the late third round. 
I didn't think was correct 

927
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:36,680
there, like he shouldn't have 
been going ahead of ETN, you 

928
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:38,680
know? 
Yeah, that that was one where I 

929
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,560
was pretty constantly. 
And to return in FFBC as well, 

930
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:46,200
which yeah that that was also 
frothy but like on DraftKings 

931
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,360
where he would go at and and he 
did he crept up on DraftKings to

932
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:52,120
the end of the season too. 
But he was he was like a 

933
01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:56,120
consistently into the third 
round or beginning of the 4th on

934
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,160
DraftKings for a while in full 
PPR. 

935
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:01,200
And that's one where I was. 
I was packing the bags. 

936
01:01:02,280 --> 01:01:09,080
So I don't my my take on him, my
my like assessment of where he 

937
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:10,880
fits in the market hasn't really
changed. 

938
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:14,040
I think he's really good. 
I think you know the the 

939
01:01:14,040 --> 01:01:17,980
downsides to him are it's going 
to be the same stuff that we saw

940
01:01:17,980 --> 01:01:20,380
with Swift, like the fantasy 
community's going to be 

941
01:01:20,380 --> 01:01:22,180
frustrated he's not getting more
work. 

942
01:01:22,580 --> 01:01:24,900
He'll get plenty more than he 
got in week one. 

943
01:01:25,620 --> 01:01:28,700
Yeah, he's just too good of a 
player for them to deny it that.

944
01:01:28,700 --> 01:01:31,940
I mean, how many tackles did he 
He broke like 7 tackles or 

945
01:01:31,940 --> 01:01:33,980
something? 
Like it was an absurd number. 

946
01:01:34,340 --> 01:01:39,580
He's so good if you if you 
didn't watch the game, go, go 

947
01:01:39,580 --> 01:01:42,140
back and just watch. 
The You didn't watch the Week 

948
01:01:42,180 --> 01:01:46,160
One NFL? 
Then the the opening day game. 

949
01:01:46,240 --> 01:01:48,320
What What are you doing with 
those nerds? 

950
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,400
Yeah, that's that's true. 
Yeah, I I bet the number of 

951
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,760
people that are listening to 
this show and miss the game, I 

952
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:58,880
don't think. 
I think another thing that's 

953
01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:03,760
interesting about Gibbs and on 
resurrection is that correct me 

954
01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,120
if I'm wrong here, but 
resurrection starts week 6 and 

955
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,080
so it if and if and when it 
opens. 

956
01:02:10,080 --> 01:02:13,600
Hopefully this week, maybe next 
week if and when it opens. 

957
01:02:13,980 --> 01:02:20,340
And if if there's any kind of 
discount on on Gibbs because he 

958
01:02:20,340 --> 01:02:24,420
started off so anemic and it 
might actually be the cheapest 

959
01:02:24,420 --> 01:02:30,100
that you get Gibbs available 
because it'll draft up until 

960
01:02:30,100 --> 01:02:33,100
that until it closes before Week
6. 

961
01:02:33,580 --> 01:02:39,540
And hopefully, maybe, maybe I'm 
just wrong here in line with 

962
01:02:39,540 --> 01:02:42,860
your what you're saying, it sort
of creeps up as the week goes 

963
01:02:42,860 --> 01:02:47,020
on. 
So, so by the time you get what 

964
01:02:47,020 --> 01:02:51,180
what you're actually getting is 
week 6 through 17 that Gibbs 

965
01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:55,860
which could be a whole lot which
should be a whole lot better 

966
01:02:56,260 --> 01:02:57,700
than that weeks one through 
five. 

967
01:02:58,300 --> 01:03:02,700
Yeah, very, very well put. 
I I would say that if if you 

968
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:07,460
give me Jamir Gibbs like in the 
mid to late 4th I will have 100%

969
01:03:07,460 --> 01:03:11,840
Jamir Gibbs like I I will 
literally have 100% if he's 

970
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,480
going there. 
You know I I think into into the

971
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:19,320
third, beginning of the 4th is 
probably right about right for 

972
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:23,440
him just cuz the we'll get a 
little more clarity. 

973
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:26,400
That wide receiver tier was so, 
so flat during the summer. 

974
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:31,520
Now I think we'll get that big 
giant tier broken into a couple 

975
01:03:31,520 --> 01:03:35,360
smaller tiers now that like bye 
bye Christian Kirk. 

976
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:39,000
Like that was unfortunate that I
drafted some Christian Kirk in 

977
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:41,680
the fifth round. 
Like that one's gone. 

978
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:42,960
He's out of that tier, right 
and. 

979
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:46,840
Sometimes you need pod picks, 
and it's trying to move on. 

980
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:49,200
Yeah, Brain and I, you can get 
steamed up. 

981
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,720
But those tiers will 
crystallize. 

982
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:55,200
They'll be a lot more clear. 
And so I think Gibbs is gonna, 

983
01:03:56,300 --> 01:03:59,500
depending on how those wide 
receivers land, he's either 

984
01:03:59,500 --> 01:04:03,540
going to be right before like 
the next tier of wide receiver 

985
01:04:03,540 --> 01:04:07,060
after that third round group. 
I think like DK Metcalf still 

986
01:04:07,060 --> 01:04:10,660
probably goes in the third round
there, like into the third round

987
01:04:11,140 --> 01:04:13,340
and Keenan Allen is still 
probably around there, right? 

988
01:04:14,220 --> 01:04:17,460
But in that chunk of guys, I 
think Gib goes right after that.

989
01:04:17,460 --> 01:04:19,740
And then depending on the 
quality of the receivers that 

990
01:04:19,740 --> 01:04:22,460
make it into that next tier, 
he's either right after that 

991
01:04:22,460 --> 01:04:24,940
very next tier receiver or he's 
before that one. 

992
01:04:24,940 --> 01:04:28,820
That's kind of my read on it. 
And if the market disagrees with

993
01:04:28,820 --> 01:04:32,860
me and puts him later, I'll see 
y'all in week 17 with 100%. 

994
01:04:34,540 --> 01:04:38,940
Gib Yeah, I couldn't agree more.
And so. 

995
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:47,120
I know we're we're an hour in 
and we're on that chart 4 and 

996
01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:50,560
before but before I move on is 
there anybody here who think we 

997
01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:55,120
can't that we just we'd be 
criminal to to go without 

998
01:04:55,120 --> 01:05:02,520
talking about gosh, I mean 
Kenneth Walker was that was one 

999
01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:07,490
where I saw that and I felt like
okay like he was priced 

1000
01:05:07,570 --> 01:05:11,570
relatively reasonably. 
I think what you're paying for 

1001
01:05:11,570 --> 01:05:14,970
with Kenneth Walker has always 
been the breakaway touchdowns, 

1002
01:05:15,050 --> 01:05:15,850
right? 
Yeah. 

1003
01:05:16,530 --> 01:05:19,930
Kenneth Walker is like diet ETN.
That's a zero in the passing 

1004
01:05:19,930 --> 01:05:20,810
game. 
Yeah, right. 

1005
01:05:21,770 --> 01:05:23,610
So that's kind of the way that I
look at him. 

1006
01:05:25,410 --> 01:05:30,480
But yeah, he's one where I was 
more encouraged than discouraged

1007
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,600
by Week 1. 
Charbonnay just didn't work in a

1008
01:05:32,600 --> 01:05:34,040
ton. 
And that'll that'll change as 

1009
01:05:34,040 --> 01:05:35,320
the season goes on. 
I'm sure. 

1010
01:05:35,320 --> 01:05:36,880
I'm sure Charbonnay will get 
more run. 

1011
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:41,840
I know DJ Dallas got some snaps.
I don't know how sticky that is.

1012
01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:47,520
I kind of, I tend to think that 
it's going to trend more towards

1013
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,000
just the Kenneth Walker and 
Charbonnay show. 

1014
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:53,360
I think DJ Dallas might have 
been eating Charbonnay snaps 

1015
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,670
more than anything. 
Event, you know eventually how 

1016
01:05:56,670 --> 01:06:00,430
it'll shake out. 
But that was one where, yeah, I 

1017
01:06:00,430 --> 01:06:04,110
felt like Kenneth Walker was. 
Was appropriately priced. 

1018
01:06:05,110 --> 01:06:07,630
Yeah, make that makes sense for 
sure. 

1019
01:06:08,390 --> 01:06:17,390
Where it's what you call it. 
He's in that 9:50 to 15 range 

1020
01:06:17,870 --> 01:06:21,110
and but with some efficiency you
can get some big time games. 

1021
01:06:24,290 --> 01:06:30,010
And so yeah let's let's move oh 
let's move on to our our odds 

1022
01:06:30,010 --> 01:06:37,770
charts and yeah so so looking at
it here and the the big 

1023
01:06:37,770 --> 01:06:42,570
temptations would be to like oh 
wow taller algier belt cow. 

1024
01:06:44,930 --> 01:06:48,690
But I I I don't I don't I don't 
think that's necessarily right 

1025
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:52,280
and. 
I think he's he's sort of 

1026
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:59,960
interesting as an airy season 
play and but I guess he did play

1027
01:06:59,960 --> 01:07:05,280
quite well and but it is it's 
sort of hard to see him like 

1028
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:09,240
truly holding off a talent like 
like Bijon for a full year. 

1029
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:17,210
Yeah, I think that Tyler Algier 
is going to do to Bijon not in 

1030
01:07:17,210 --> 01:07:21,610
the same way, but not not to the
same magnitude rather, but he 

1031
01:07:21,610 --> 01:07:24,890
he's gonna be a Thorn and Bijon 
side, the same way that David 

1032
01:07:24,890 --> 01:07:26,890
Montgomery is gonna be a Thorn 
and Gibbs side. 

1033
01:07:27,330 --> 01:07:30,970
That team wants to use both 
those running backs and they 

1034
01:07:30,970 --> 01:07:34,930
will both get an absurd amount 
of work if week one told us 

1035
01:07:34,930 --> 01:07:37,090
anything and if last season told
us anything. 

1036
01:07:37,570 --> 01:07:40,650
So for people that drafted Tyler
Algier when he was in like the 

1037
01:07:40,650 --> 01:07:44,570
one 50s and one 60s 
congratulations that was way 

1038
01:07:44,570 --> 01:07:48,560
inefficient of a price. 
He he's he's going to continue 

1039
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,000
to get work regardless of how 
good Bijon is. 

1040
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:55,400
He might do or or Bijon might do
to Algeer what Algeer did to 

1041
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:58,680
Huntley last season where you 
know over the course of the 

1042
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:02,560
season we're going to see Bijon 
carve out more and more work. 

1043
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,160
But I think Algeer, I mean 
especially at the the early 

1044
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:10,670
stretch of the season he's he's 
very attractive he's I I would I

1045
01:08:10,670 --> 01:08:14,350
would consider algae or like an 
RV to lock it in pretty much 

1046
01:08:14,350 --> 01:08:16,630
every week just the way that 
offense wants to operate. 

1047
01:08:18,270 --> 01:08:25,029
OK, so so you think it's just 
gonna, it's sort of like stay 

1048
01:08:25,069 --> 01:08:28,950
pretty much in touch with the 
way that the way that the 

1049
01:08:28,950 --> 01:08:31,710
offense used both players is 
gonna stay pretty much in touch 

1050
01:08:32,189 --> 01:08:36,240
and throughout the year it's 
going to trend towards Bijon 

1051
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:38,160
certainly. 
But like if you look at how many

1052
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:41,880
opportunities they both got, 
it's a plenty of opportunity. 

1053
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,760
You know, I think you're looking
at both of them being locked in 

1054
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:49,279
for 15 opportunities a week and 
they're both Alger got a lot of 

1055
01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:51,160
passing game work too. 
They're both involved in the 

1056
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:56,399
passing game. 
Can you imagine? 

1057
01:08:56,399 --> 01:09:00,520
I need you to close your eyes 
and I want you to imagine Arthur

1058
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:04,600
Smith being OK with them running
a pass play inside the five yard

1059
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,120
line. 
Like, does that ever happen? 

1060
01:09:07,160 --> 01:09:09,800
Does this team score a passing 
touchdown in the Green Zone? 

1061
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:18,439
Like, yeah, they're, they're. 
Across the green ball, yeah, I 

1062
01:09:18,479 --> 01:09:22,920
I, yeah, I I sort of see that 
where it's an offense that's 

1063
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:27,960
like so it's so rich for running
backs that him just having a 

1064
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:38,319
share, it is quite valuable. 
But yeah I I guess you were 

1065
01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:42,840
never you were never you were 
never having to pay pay a bell 

1066
01:09:42,840 --> 01:09:47,479
cow price and I don't know 
you're never going to get like 

1067
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:49,920
you're never going to get 
somebody in in trade or whatever

1068
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,319
or or maybe you will but 
probably a hard ask to get 

1069
01:09:53,319 --> 01:09:59,400
somebody to pay like a high a 
high player return in a trade 

1070
01:09:59,960 --> 01:10:02,490
and. 
Where where would you draft him 

1071
01:10:02,490 --> 01:10:06,970
in in resurrection? 
Like he's like a solid, you 

1072
01:10:06,970 --> 01:10:10,370
know, into the night. 
Like is it 9th? 

1073
01:10:10,370 --> 01:10:11,810
Gosh, it might. 
It might be. 

1074
01:10:11,890 --> 01:10:13,850
It's gotta be higher than that, 
I was thinking. 

1075
01:10:13,850 --> 01:10:17,570
Like I was gonna say 9th. 
That feels a bit warm and you 

1076
01:10:17,570 --> 01:10:19,530
just disagreed with me. 
I know. 

1077
01:10:19,530 --> 01:10:23,210
Maybe. 
Gosh, maybe it's like is it like

1078
01:10:23,250 --> 01:10:26,210
late 7th, early 8th? 
I don't know. 

1079
01:10:26,570 --> 01:10:28,250
I I just. 
Let me ask you this. 

1080
01:10:28,290 --> 01:10:31,950
It is an. 
Is toddler Alger in the 7th is 

1081
01:10:31,990 --> 01:10:36,110
is that a is that a dead zone 
pick or is that something where 

1082
01:10:36,550 --> 01:10:41,870
no no he he if you get him seven
or eight no you're you're really

1083
01:10:41,870 --> 01:10:45,910
happy with that pick. 
I I mean not to to make the same

1084
01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:49,230
comparison again but I really I 
look at it like I looked at 

1085
01:10:49,230 --> 01:10:53,950
David I was happily clicking 
David Montgomery his price right

1086
01:10:54,510 --> 01:10:58,070
all offseason I that's behind a 
really good offensive line they 

1087
01:10:58,070 --> 01:11:02,240
want to run the ball and you 
know we saw last season Jamal 

1088
01:11:02,240 --> 01:11:05,880
Williams ran hotter than the sun
on touchdowns but like right 

1089
01:11:06,280 --> 01:11:09,200
that often can score rushing 
touchdowns and they are happy to

1090
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:11,560
give work to their running backs
and it's the same thing in 

1091
01:11:11,560 --> 01:11:14,720
Atlanta they have a good running
game they they want to give work

1092
01:11:14,720 --> 01:11:20,680
to the running backs so I think 
you can I I think the algier to 

1093
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:25,240
Montgomery comparison is is 
pretty good and pretty close to 

1094
01:11:25,240 --> 01:11:27,280
how I would view over their 
prices. 

1095
01:11:27,970 --> 01:11:31,010
And and to be fair, taller 
Algiers probably compares 

1096
01:11:31,050 --> 01:11:34,290
better. 
He's younger and I'm pretty 

1097
01:11:34,290 --> 01:11:36,850
sure, I know he was an old 
rookie, but he is a second year 

1098
01:11:36,850 --> 01:11:42,650
player and he played, he played 
well, whereas Monty played not 

1099
01:11:42,650 --> 01:11:48,930
well. 
And so maybe, yeah, maybe David 

1100
01:11:48,970 --> 01:11:54,450
Montgomery plus is like a good 
way to well, I know that's what 

1101
01:11:54,450 --> 01:11:55,130
we're saying. 
Maybe. 

1102
01:11:55,170 --> 01:11:58,550
Maybe. 
Monthly Plus is a good way to 

1103
01:11:58,550 --> 01:12:01,630
look at them, yeah. 
Another one I wanted to bring up

1104
01:12:01,630 --> 01:12:07,910
here is Josh Jacobs. 
I mean, from Week 1 Elite usage,

1105
01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:11,350
you know, they they're putting 
the ball in his belly. 

1106
01:12:11,350 --> 01:12:14,350
But he did turn back into a 
pumpkin a little bit on the 

1107
01:12:14,350 --> 01:12:17,750
efficiency front last season. 
He was just otherworldly. 

1108
01:12:17,750 --> 01:12:22,700
I mean he wanted that bag but 
and I don't know if this, you 

1109
01:12:22,700 --> 01:12:24,780
know, could just be weak one 
small sample size. 

1110
01:12:24,780 --> 01:12:28,780
I don't know if the trend holds,
but I'm like, I'm like slightly 

1111
01:12:28,780 --> 01:12:34,180
concerned that Josh Jacobs is 
just gonna be like absolute crap

1112
01:12:34,180 --> 01:12:36,940
ton of volume, not terribly 
efficient. 

1113
01:12:37,340 --> 01:12:42,140
He didn't have a a ton ton of 
expected points in the receiving

1114
01:12:42,140 --> 01:12:45,180
game. 
You know like he you see ETN 

1115
01:12:45,220 --> 01:12:47,980
with more expected yeah 
receiving points than him you 

1116
01:12:47,980 --> 01:12:51,860
see you know he's he's like 
right about in line with AJ 

1117
01:12:51,860 --> 01:12:57,220
Dillon so slightly, slightly 
concerned about Jacobs. 

1118
01:12:57,260 --> 01:13:01,420
I mean, he's still, he's gonna 
get so much work that it's 

1119
01:13:01,420 --> 01:13:06,660
probably fine, though. 
Yeah and and that one way that I

1120
01:13:06,660 --> 01:13:12,780
like to look at the the the over
expected and is I like to try to

1121
01:13:12,780 --> 01:13:17,300
like break the into yardage and 
touchdowns and obviously you 

1122
01:13:17,300 --> 01:13:18,620
have to be very careful with 
splits. 

1123
01:13:19,270 --> 01:13:24,390
Because we're dealing with very 
small sample sizes and but one 

1124
01:13:24,390 --> 01:13:28,270
thing that does seem pretty 
notable is that of his like I 

1125
01:13:28,270 --> 01:13:37,870
think he was like -11 or so and 
in in expected points and 9.4 of

1126
01:13:37,870 --> 01:13:42,110
those was in touchdowns, was in 
getting a goal line touch 

1127
01:13:42,350 --> 01:13:47,230
touches and not scoring and that
does feel like something that 

1128
01:13:47,230 --> 01:13:52,660
might be. 
And a week one thing where if 

1129
01:13:52,660 --> 01:13:56,260
you think if you think the 
Raiders offense is is better 

1130
01:13:56,820 --> 01:13:59,660
than than the market was giving 
credit for. 

1131
01:13:59,860 --> 01:14:03,660
And I I I think we've gotten an 
indication that it is and that 

1132
01:14:03,660 --> 01:14:08,260
they will be making trips to the
to goal line and that they're 

1133
01:14:08,260 --> 01:14:09,860
going to continue to feed them 
there. 

1134
01:14:10,540 --> 01:14:16,100
And I think maybe I I think 
there is a case that his. 

1135
01:14:17,610 --> 01:14:22,970
His I guess rest of season 
points outlook is bad is maybe a

1136
01:14:22,970 --> 01:14:26,970
good bit better than what his 
weak one stats look like. 

1137
01:14:27,490 --> 01:14:33,250
But, and having said that, I 
probably wouldn't be too far 

1138
01:14:33,250 --> 01:14:40,210
away from you in terms of 
pricing him and I probably I I 

1139
01:14:40,210 --> 01:14:45,610
probably still need a decent 
discount to his his best ball 

1140
01:14:45,610 --> 01:14:48,990
season at a DP. 
To to be drafting him. 

1141
01:14:49,430 --> 01:14:54,070
I'm John Jacobs. 
Yeah, Josh Jacobs or Sakewon 

1142
01:14:54,070 --> 01:14:56,990
Barkley. 
Oh, Josh Jacobs. 

1143
01:14:57,070 --> 01:15:02,950
I'm sorry, OK. 
And sorry I I I I did the thing 

1144
01:15:02,950 --> 01:15:06,710
where I said to you at Oh yeah 
let's make sure we we use some 

1145
01:15:06,710 --> 01:15:09,950
names and when we're talking to 
players and then I just talked 

1146
01:15:09,950 --> 01:15:14,990
about I just said him and so 
yeah Josh Jacobs and at. 

1147
01:15:15,650 --> 01:15:20,050
Lots of go line touches did not 
convert them and that's usually 

1148
01:15:20,050 --> 01:15:25,930
volatile and even though I I'm, 
I'm, I'm I'm not drafting him 

1149
01:15:26,290 --> 01:15:30,730
and but if I were somebody who 
was quite bullish and I'm going 

1150
01:15:30,730 --> 01:15:35,370
into the season and maybe that 
doesn't push me quite off that 

1151
01:15:36,050 --> 01:15:38,450
that opinion. 
Oh I'm I'm sorry. 

1152
01:15:38,450 --> 01:15:40,330
I should have been more clear 
with my question. 

1153
01:15:40,330 --> 01:15:44,330
I was saying, who do you prefer,
Josh Jacobs or sake? 

1154
01:15:45,650 --> 01:15:52,770
And oh, OK, OK. 
And who do I prepare and or 

1155
01:15:54,850 --> 01:15:56,970
you're gonna have to give me a 
second. 

1156
01:15:58,210 --> 01:16:06,490
And so, honestly, probably 
Jacobs. 

1157
01:16:07,410 --> 01:16:11,330
I think it's close. 
I mean the only like modicum of 

1158
01:16:11,330 --> 01:16:15,240
success the Giants showed 
against the Cowboys was those 

1159
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:18,640
early runs where you know they 
were able to get a little bit of

1160
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:24,600
of Barkley up the middle going 
for them the anything outside 

1161
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:28,920
was not great but they looked 
like they they could at least 

1162
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:33,080
you know get some yards created 
up the middle with their run 

1163
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:37,360
blocking. 
So I'm but yeah I felt like that

1164
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,280
was a those guys are probably I 
think they're in the same tier 

1165
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:42,880
would you consider them same 
tier? 

1166
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:48,560
Yeah, yeah, they are. 
They are, and yeah, I I think 

1167
01:16:48,560 --> 01:16:50,080
they are. 
They're definitely in the same 

1168
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:59,280
tier and then the only thing I 
would say is like and and maybe 

1169
01:16:59,280 --> 01:17:03,120
maybe it was was the sake one 
have the thing where he he came 

1170
01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:06,440
off the field just because they 
were getting smashed so much. 

1171
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:09,120
Yeah, yeah. 
At the end of the game, we had 

1172
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,780
Daniel Jones. 
Daniel Jones still had to stay 

1173
01:17:11,780 --> 01:17:15,100
in there and get his turds 
pushing his stay. 

1174
01:17:15,140 --> 01:17:19,380
Quan got to go get nice and cozy
on the bench and put his park on

1175
01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:23,660
and get out of the rain. 
I just can't, dude. 

1176
01:17:23,660 --> 01:17:28,540
Daniel Jones did something to 
upset that coaching staff. 

1177
01:17:29,260 --> 01:17:31,140
He kicked someone's dog or slept
well. 

1178
01:17:31,660 --> 01:17:34,140
They were like, you know what? 
We're paying you all this many 

1179
01:17:34,140 --> 01:17:38,600
$1,000,000. 
You are just gonna take this 

1180
01:17:38,600 --> 01:17:42,760
punishment and like it. 
He took a lot of it, man, that 

1181
01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,720
was that was gratuitous. 
So. 

1182
01:17:46,720 --> 01:17:52,120
Maybe I'm just, I'm trying to 
think maybe Saquon probably is 1

1183
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:57,640
where it's a little bit harder 
to really gauge where where he's

1184
01:17:57,640 --> 01:18:01,640
supposed to go and just because 
we didn't have a proper game 

1185
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:09,360
script and but. 
Yeah, maybe I'm flip flopping a 

1186
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,760
bit here and just cuz I'm I'm 
trying to think through it. 

1187
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:16,280
But maybe the the kind of 
indication that we got that he 

1188
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:18,240
he definitely still has some 
juice. 

1189
01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:22,840
And if they consider if they if 
they will continue, if they 

1190
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:27,360
continue to like give him the 
the sort of usage that he got 

1191
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:31,800
last year with maybe, yeah, 
maybe better receiving then 

1192
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,800
absolutely he's better than that
Jacob's. 

1193
01:18:35,360 --> 01:18:40,440
But I do think we definitely 
sort of got more weak one 

1194
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:44,560
bullish signals with the usage 
and the goal line work from 

1195
01:18:45,120 --> 01:18:52,240
Jacobs than SEC one. 
I do wanna. 

1196
01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:56,520
Before we move on, I wanted to 
bring up one more back here. 

1197
01:18:57,070 --> 01:18:59,430
Yeah so. 
So we've got James Connor and 

1198
01:18:59,430 --> 01:19:01,470
Rashad White. 
Two guys that were drafted 

1199
01:19:01,470 --> 01:19:03,710
really close together all off 
season. 

1200
01:19:03,950 --> 01:19:07,470
They both landed at 10 to 15 
expected fantasy points Band 

1201
01:19:07,470 --> 01:19:13,230
here and I know you've you've 
got some thoughts on Rashad 

1202
01:19:13,230 --> 01:19:17,670
White's backfield mate that I 
wanted to let you expand on here

1203
01:19:17,670 --> 01:19:21,190
a little bit. 
I pretty, yeah, pretty 

1204
01:19:21,190 --> 01:19:25,750
straightforward. 
And I think that Rashad White. 

1205
01:19:26,450 --> 01:19:32,330
Has now given us a a a decent he
he gave us a a season one sample

1206
01:19:32,330 --> 01:19:38,330
size or sample that he's pretty 
bad and he played really bad in 

1207
01:19:39,290 --> 01:19:47,130
in week one and then I I I I 
like like you alluded to I do 

1208
01:19:47,130 --> 01:19:53,610
like Sean Tucker quite a bit and
so the fact that he played 

1209
01:19:54,010 --> 01:19:59,290
fairly well and then. 
White played pearly that that 

1210
01:19:59,290 --> 01:20:04,210
that does make me pretty 
interested and and in terms of 

1211
01:20:04,210 --> 01:20:10,450
like where I'd price it and I 
think one of the thing one of 

1212
01:20:10,450 --> 01:20:14,450
the concerns going into the year
was that Oh well what if they 

1213
01:20:14,450 --> 01:20:19,850
only see Tucker as a rushing guy
and they're bad the the offense 

1214
01:20:19,850 --> 01:20:25,240
is bad and and. 
Like you, you just don't want to

1215
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,080
rush her in that type of 
environment. 

1216
01:20:27,640 --> 01:20:34,480
I think the Tampa Bay offense 
was like good enough for that 

1217
01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:38,160
type of back to be quite a good 
bit interesting. 

1218
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:44,800
And if I mean it's one of those 
things like when, when, when 

1219
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,560
does the flip has to flip 
eventually or sorry, you feel 

1220
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:53,200
like it has to flip eventually 
but it's hard to predict when. 

1221
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:59,400
And so I think I I'm, I'm 
probably quite comfortable 

1222
01:20:59,760 --> 01:21:05,000
taking Tucker maybe and this is 
probably pretty aggressive maybe

1223
01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:08,920
12 through 14 round now I was. 
I was right there with with you 

1224
01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:11,120
in the 12th round, so I don't 
think that's too aggressive at 

1225
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:14,440
all. 
OK, he's let's just let's 

1226
01:21:14,440 --> 01:21:17,720
hypothetically say he just takes
Rashad Weis's lunch. 

1227
01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,920
He. 
That's he he's yeah, that's he's

1228
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:21,640
the captain. 
He's the captain now. 

1229
01:21:23,130 --> 01:21:27,610
He he gets the same opportunity 
he's not fallen in this 10 to 15

1230
01:21:27,610 --> 01:21:31,370
expected fantasy point band. 
The only reason Rashad White you

1231
01:21:31,370 --> 01:21:35,410
know fell here was he he 
couldn't do anything with it. 

1232
01:21:35,490 --> 01:21:38,930
You know like Sean Sean Tucker 
could easily be. 

1233
01:21:39,170 --> 01:21:43,050
I think your your bowl case for 
Sean Tucker is he he starts to 

1234
01:21:43,050 --> 01:21:45,930
break into that 15 to 20 
expected fantasy point band and 

1235
01:21:45,930 --> 01:21:50,050
so that's a guy where I want to 
take a shot on and then. 

1236
01:21:50,500 --> 01:21:53,060
I know we're we're just spending
all the time in the world on 

1237
01:21:53,060 --> 01:21:57,300
every chart but there is one guy
I mean yeah he was the thumbnail

1238
01:21:57,380 --> 01:21:59,700
on the show. 
We got to talk about Justice 

1239
01:21:59,700 --> 01:22:02,460
Hill with JK Dobbins being 
injured. 

1240
01:22:02,820 --> 01:22:06,180
I already spent some time 
shitting on Gus Edwards 

1241
01:22:06,820 --> 01:22:11,100
inefficiency or or I guess 
inefficiency of or efficiency in

1242
01:22:11,100 --> 01:22:15,740
the past he but no longer you 
know is this 28 going on 29 year

1243
01:22:15,740 --> 01:22:19,340
old plotter going to be the guy 
that you want. 

1244
01:22:19,780 --> 01:22:23,180
In this backfield where they 
want to involve backs in the 

1245
01:22:23,180 --> 01:22:26,860
passing game. 
So I mean, if you've seen me 

1246
01:22:26,940 --> 01:22:29,500
talk about Justice Hill at all 
this offseason, you know that 

1247
01:22:29,500 --> 01:22:32,180
I'm the captain of the Justice 
Hill fan club. 

1248
01:22:33,340 --> 01:22:36,980
But a big part of the thesis was
he's the he was literally the 

1249
01:22:37,020 --> 01:22:40,660
only guy at OTA's that was going
to make the 53 man roster 

1250
01:22:40,660 --> 01:22:43,820
getting stabs. 
And if if you believe the beat 

1251
01:22:43,820 --> 01:22:47,580
reporters, they were saying that
Todd Milken loves him. 

1252
01:22:47,620 --> 01:22:50,680
He wants to. 
Having to be super involved in 

1253
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:54,960
the passing game, you know, it's
a player that they really like. 

1254
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,760
And then you Fast forward and 
you get to training camp and 

1255
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:02,440
he's still one of the only guys 
that's actually out there 

1256
01:23:02,440 --> 01:23:05,360
getting reps You know, Dobbins 
was doing the olden thing. 

1257
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:07,000
Gus Edwards wasn't totally 
healthy. 

1258
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:11,240
It's the Justice Hill Show. 
And Justice Hill, he doesn't 

1259
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:15,040
profile as the kind of guy that 
can get a bell cow workload, nor

1260
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:17,960
nor do I even think it's not in 
the range of outcomes for him to

1261
01:23:17,960 --> 01:23:20,920
get all the work. 
But you don't need that with a 

1262
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:25,720
play like this. 
I always saw Justice Hill Thesis

1263
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,360
as the same Jared McKinnon 
thesis that I had this season 

1264
01:23:29,360 --> 01:23:32,240
prior, which was this guy's 
going undrafted in the 18th 

1265
01:23:32,240 --> 01:23:35,520
round. 
He is, you know, in a semi 

1266
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,120
ambiguous backfield for the 
Ravens. 

1267
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:39,720
I didn't think it was terribly 
ambiguous as JK Dobbins is a 

1268
01:23:39,720 --> 01:23:44,120
dude, but the RV2 was ambiguous.
I think the offense has a chance

1269
01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:47,360
to be the offense that scores 
the most touchdowns in the NFL. 

1270
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,280
They want to involve their backs
in the passing game and this guy

1271
01:23:51,400 --> 01:23:54,840
could get a lot of high value 
touches and that's that's the 

1272
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:56,960
thesis. 
He's he's like 190 pounds. 

1273
01:23:56,960 --> 01:23:59,640
He's not, he's not some world 
beater or anything, right? 

1274
01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:01,720
But he is. 
It's interesting they not go on 

1275
01:24:01,760 --> 01:24:04,870
touches, right? 
Yeah, he got go back though. 

1276
01:24:04,870 --> 01:24:08,470
You feel comfortable about 
getting receiving usage and then

1277
01:24:08,470 --> 01:24:11,670
when with Dobbins was down, he 
was the first one in on the goal

1278
01:24:11,670 --> 01:24:12,430
line. 
Yep. 

1279
01:24:12,470 --> 01:24:13,950
And he got two goal line 
touches. 

1280
01:24:13,950 --> 01:24:17,350
It was and and it's not like you
know they've forgot about Gus. 

1281
01:24:17,350 --> 01:24:19,630
They brought Gus Edwards in for 
a, you know, two point 

1282
01:24:19,630 --> 01:24:22,710
conversion and then it was like 
alright, but when it's time for 

1283
01:24:22,710 --> 01:24:26,550
the real money let's get just 
fill the field for the TV's and 

1284
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:29,470
in the preseason we saw him 
deliver splash plays like he's 

1285
01:24:29,470 --> 01:24:30,710
explosive. 
He's fat. 

1286
01:24:30,710 --> 01:24:33,140
I'm just. 
I'm all in Justice Hill man. 

1287
01:24:33,140 --> 01:24:37,740
That like that's a that's a 
league winner for me. 

1288
01:24:37,820 --> 01:24:40,660
Go go put all the money in the 
middle on him and waivers. 

1289
01:24:40,740 --> 01:24:42,580
That's that's the 1:00 you want 
this week. 

1290
01:24:43,220 --> 01:24:47,780
So am I right in surmising that 
he's sort of like a yeah you're 

1291
01:24:48,100 --> 01:24:50,980
he's sort of like an echo or 
like like that's that's what 

1292
01:24:50,980 --> 01:24:53,340
you're shooting for? 
Well, that would that would be 

1293
01:24:53,340 --> 01:24:55,100
like his his best. 
Yeah. 

1294
01:24:55,220 --> 01:25:02,170
Yeah, that's probably best, best
outcome, but like even £190.00 

1295
01:25:02,610 --> 01:25:06,930
but you still get outcomes where
he's heavily involved in the 

1296
01:25:06,930 --> 01:25:11,050
passing game and he's quite 
involved in the goal line. 

1297
01:25:11,810 --> 01:25:16,570
I look at it as, what would you 
pay to get that six game stretch

1298
01:25:16,570 --> 01:25:19,330
that we got from Jared McKinnon 
at the end of last season? 

1299
01:25:19,820 --> 01:25:22,020
What would you pay for that and 
and we don't. 

1300
01:25:22,020 --> 01:25:25,220
You know maybe maybe Justice 
Hill manages to string it 

1301
01:25:25,220 --> 01:25:27,100
together for longer. 
Maybe he does only get right 

1302
01:25:27,100 --> 01:25:28,860
like a six game stretch because 
he can't hold up. 

1303
01:25:28,860 --> 01:25:31,420
He's only 190 pounds. 
He's had injury issues in the 

1304
01:25:31,420 --> 01:25:33,100
past. 
Maybe they bring in another bag,

1305
01:25:33,220 --> 01:25:36,500
train for JT, whatever. 
But what would you pay for that 

1306
01:25:36,500 --> 01:25:40,260
six game stretch where he's 
dropping multiple 30 point games

1307
01:25:40,300 --> 01:25:41,820
and and it's on the back of 
touchdowns. 

1308
01:25:41,820 --> 01:25:44,140
It's not that Jarek McKinnon was
out here racking up all these 

1309
01:25:44,140 --> 01:25:46,220
yards. 
It's dude, dude just got a 

1310
01:25:46,220 --> 01:25:48,580
couple touchdowns because 
offense is good and they throw 

1311
01:25:48,580 --> 01:25:53,450
the ball, you know. 
Yeah makes sense for sure. 

1312
01:25:53,530 --> 01:25:56,690
And and like you said, we 
couldn't we couldn't do that. 

1313
01:25:56,850 --> 01:25:59,890
We couldn't do this without 
mentioning the cover boy. 

1314
01:26:01,210 --> 01:26:05,770
So let's move on to tight ends. 
I'm going to change the zoom on 

1315
01:26:05,770 --> 01:26:11,570
this a little bit. 
And So what we've got here is 

1316
01:26:12,010 --> 01:26:17,010
we've got sort of like the 
percentage of passing place that

1317
01:26:17,820 --> 01:26:21,780
a tight end is on the field and 
then we've got that sort of 

1318
01:26:21,780 --> 01:26:26,300
broken up into roots which is 
what we care about and then pass

1319
01:26:26,300 --> 01:26:29,100
blocking. 
So you can kind of see if a guy 

1320
01:26:29,100 --> 01:26:32,300
is on the field a lot he just 
pass blocking for a lot of it. 

1321
01:26:32,620 --> 01:26:37,900
And so that's where you get, 
let's say K Dotten his, he is on

1322
01:26:37,900 --> 01:26:43,740
the field for almost 100% of the
of the Tampa Bay Bucks and 

1323
01:26:43,740 --> 01:26:47,800
passing downs. 
But because he's passed blocking

1324
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:52,720
for quite a bit of it that 
brings his password down to just

1325
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:56,600
over 70%. 
And then what we have here on 

1326
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:00,240
the left, if you're tracking 
over here, we have a targets per

1327
01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:04,760
route run and a dot and it's 
sort of what we're trying to do 

1328
01:27:04,760 --> 01:27:09,920
is trying to find out who's 
billed as a tight end but closer

1329
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,480
to a receiver. 
And so you see K dot in here 

1330
01:27:13,800 --> 01:27:19,970
really low target per outrun and
then pretty kind of tight endish

1331
01:27:20,810 --> 01:27:23,290
a .2. 
And that's not the shit on Kate 

1332
01:27:23,370 --> 01:27:26,370
or anybody who took Kate. 
I think that's kind of the 

1333
01:27:26,410 --> 01:27:29,810
outcome that you're sort of like
you were expecting that outcome 

1334
01:27:29,810 --> 01:27:32,130
when you when you dropped Kate 
on, you're getting him super 

1335
01:27:32,130 --> 01:27:37,690
late and you knew he he wasn't 
kind of like he's not Travis 

1336
01:27:37,690 --> 01:27:40,410
Kelsey or anything and you're 
hoping for a week where he 

1337
01:27:40,410 --> 01:27:45,040
scores a touchdown, but just 
kind of a a way that we look at 

1338
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:50,160
this data. 
Whereas on the other hand it's 

1339
01:27:50,160 --> 01:27:54,160
actually quite difficult to find
a tight end who looks like a 

1340
01:27:54,160 --> 01:28:04,040
tight end this week. 
But let's say you've got a TJ 

1341
01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:09,940
Hawkinson here. 
He had similar and it's similar 

1342
01:28:09,940 --> 01:28:14,060
routes run but his at his routes
were a lot more important he he 

1343
01:28:14,060 --> 01:28:19,460
got doubled and double over 
double the target for run and 

1344
01:28:19,580 --> 01:28:24,020
and then you can kind of this 
chart does tell the story of a 

1345
01:28:24,060 --> 01:28:27,700
struggle week for for tight ends
a little bit cuz like normally 

1346
01:28:27,700 --> 01:28:31,460
what you're looking for you're 
looking for a guy who's maybe 75

1347
01:28:31,460 --> 01:28:36,380
and 90 in root share 20 some in 
the range of 20 for target for 

1348
01:28:36,380 --> 01:28:42,000
outrun and then like a wide 
receiver ish 8 to 12A dot and 

1349
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:46,440
we're not seeing that here and 
but definitely some good good 

1350
01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:48,440
still good takeaways for the 
chart. 

1351
01:28:48,840 --> 01:28:51,880
Can I can I interest you in some
Luke Musgrave? 

1352
01:28:52,040 --> 01:28:58,400
At 17% targets per route run 
just about 80% routes and an 18 

1353
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:08,500
a dot and for sure definitely I 
think you you run that is 

1354
01:29:08,500 --> 01:29:14,860
definitely really interesting. 
So you probably you're probably 

1355
01:29:14,860 --> 01:29:18,580
not going to be able to sustain 
the 18 yard 18A dot. 

1356
01:29:18,900 --> 01:29:24,140
But combined with a 7 percent, 
17% target for right run and and

1357
01:29:24,140 --> 01:29:28,420
you've got the, you've got the 
high, high root share, you feel 

1358
01:29:28,420 --> 01:29:30,300
pretty good about that tight end
roll, right? 

1359
01:29:31,490 --> 01:29:35,210
Yeah, you know, some of the ones
that stood out to me, as, you 

1360
01:29:35,210 --> 01:29:38,450
know, I I'm full on hitting the 
panic button for these guys. 

1361
01:29:38,450 --> 01:29:41,250
It's Dalton Schultz. 
I'm pretty sure that's just like

1362
01:29:41,250 --> 01:29:43,890
not a playable tight end. 
You know, Dalton Schultz is the 

1363
01:29:43,890 --> 01:29:48,650
same thing as like, ohh, gosh, 
what's the what's the name of 

1364
01:29:48,650 --> 01:29:51,410
the blocking tight end for 
Minnesota that signed that big 

1365
01:29:51,410 --> 01:29:54,810
old contract. 
Yeah, but Dalton Schultz out 

1366
01:29:54,810 --> 01:29:56,970
here just running cardio like 
8%, right? 

1367
01:29:56,970 --> 01:30:00,010
Targets were outrun. 
No a dot like woof. 

1368
01:30:01,770 --> 01:30:04,970
Some that I also saw where I was
like a little concerned. 

1369
01:30:04,970 --> 01:30:07,090
I'm not like full on alarm for 
is. 

1370
01:30:07,090 --> 01:30:10,850
David and Joe Ku did a fair 
amount of pass blocking, didn't 

1371
01:30:10,850 --> 01:30:14,050
run a ton of routes low a dot. 
I mean it was a monsoon game so 

1372
01:30:14,050 --> 01:30:20,490
I don't really care that much. 
The other Isaiah likely was a 

1373
01:30:20,490 --> 01:30:22,970
little disappointing, everyone. 
Isaiah likely. 

1374
01:30:23,170 --> 01:30:26,740
Very disappointing, I thought. 
I think we saw enough last 

1375
01:30:26,740 --> 01:30:30,380
season from him to know that 
he's good though, so I'm not. 

1376
01:30:30,780 --> 01:30:32,820
I think. 
I think I'm more willing to 

1377
01:30:32,820 --> 01:30:34,740
write this off as like as a bad 
game. 

1378
01:30:35,940 --> 01:30:39,500
It also like if if we're 
thinking this might be more 

1379
01:30:39,500 --> 01:30:43,540
signal, it could just be like, 
hey, they now have target 

1380
01:30:43,540 --> 01:30:46,220
earners here. 
Like Zay Flowers is here and 

1381
01:30:46,220 --> 01:30:48,900
he's gonna earn targets and 
Bateman is healthy. 

1382
01:30:49,300 --> 01:30:52,020
And even though Bateman didn't 
run a full compliment around, 

1383
01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:54,060
you know he he wasn't on the 
field. 

1384
01:30:54,060 --> 01:30:57,640
The Ton. 
He still earned targets and so 

1385
01:30:57,640 --> 01:31:02,640
that might be you know if if 
Andrews misses time maybe likely

1386
01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:07,360
doesn't see that same 
significant increase in value 

1387
01:31:07,440 --> 01:31:11,320
that he's not lasting. 
That does seem the question like

1388
01:31:11,400 --> 01:31:14,000
cuz like I know people in their 
head they had like mental 

1389
01:31:14,000 --> 01:31:20,960
heuristic Andrews goes down as I
likely basically Andrews and and

1390
01:31:21,400 --> 01:31:27,370
and just run with it and so I 
wouldn't you say it it's fair to

1391
01:31:27,370 --> 01:31:32,410
say that that idea is is it. 
It feels like either that idea 

1392
01:31:32,410 --> 01:31:39,770
was was not correct or Mark 
Andrews is in trouble because of

1393
01:31:40,130 --> 01:31:42,090
the of the issues pushing it 
likely down. 

1394
01:31:42,730 --> 01:31:45,210
There, I'm not ready to say Mark
Andrews is in trouble, because I

1395
01:31:45,210 --> 01:31:48,410
no, I'm not either. 
I do think that he's you know he

1396
01:31:48,410 --> 01:31:49,890
is just a better talent than 
Isaiah. 

1397
01:31:50,050 --> 01:31:53,650
Isaiah like he's exciting talent
but like he's not Mark Andrews. 

1398
01:31:54,250 --> 01:31:59,690
So I'm I I'm more willing to 
just call this a a bad game 

1399
01:31:59,730 --> 01:32:03,010
maybe a little fluky but I'm 
definitely I'm filing it away in

1400
01:32:03,010 --> 01:32:06,690
my mental filing cabinet of if 
Mark Andrews misses time I'm 

1401
01:32:06,690 --> 01:32:09,690
gonna have a lot lower 
confidence in like right than I 

1402
01:32:09,690 --> 01:32:13,130
would have previously of like 
it's a smash right. 

1403
01:32:13,770 --> 01:32:17,670
How I how I think about it. 
Speaking of guys that are 

1404
01:32:17,670 --> 01:32:20,790
smashes, we said there weren't a
ton that kind of checked our 

1405
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:23,390
boxes. 
Can I interest you in some Logan

1406
01:32:23,390 --> 01:32:26,550
Thomas like 23% targets per 
route run? 

1407
01:32:26,950 --> 01:32:30,350
Not a super exciting a dot, but 
he was involved that. 

1408
01:32:31,070 --> 01:32:34,270
I'm just hoping that maybe that 
was like a little hiccup for 

1409
01:32:34,270 --> 01:32:36,670
Washington. 
Maybe Sam Howe can can string it

1410
01:32:36,670 --> 01:32:38,310
together. 
The enemy can get some stuff 

1411
01:32:38,310 --> 01:32:41,150
figured out for that offense, 
and they can get humming as the 

1412
01:32:41,150 --> 01:32:43,390
season moves along and how it 
gets more real. 

1413
01:32:43,810 --> 01:32:47,290
Live reps in the NFL because 
Dude's played two games now, 

1414
01:32:47,930 --> 01:32:51,370
right? 
So you know, we can just kind of

1415
01:32:51,370 --> 01:32:53,890
treat. 
It's not like, it's not like Sam

1416
01:32:53,890 --> 01:32:57,410
Howe was sitting behind some 
great quarterback learning last 

1417
01:32:57,410 --> 01:32:59,850
season. 
You know, like not to crap all 

1418
01:32:59,850 --> 01:33:04,050
over Taylor Heineke. 
But it's not like he had all 

1419
01:33:04,050 --> 01:33:07,170
this time to develop behind one 
of the greatest minds in the 

1420
01:33:07,170 --> 01:33:09,680
game. 
You know, I I think it's fair to

1421
01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:12,920
expect that Hal might be a 
little raw, and I think Logan 

1422
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:16,760
Thomas is certainly interesting.
I mean the tight landscapes of 

1423
01:33:16,760 --> 01:33:19,760
Wasteland. 
So anyone getting over 20% 

1424
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:22,600
targets per route run and being 
involved in the offense is 1 

1425
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:24,680
where I'm gonna be at least a 
little interested. 

1426
01:33:26,040 --> 01:33:28,000
Yeah, I agree. 
I agree. 

1427
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:29,880
And definitely. 
Yeah, definitely. 

1428
01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:34,360
So I I think maybe you disagree,
but he solidifies himself as a 

1429
01:33:34,360 --> 01:33:38,540
kind of a late at tight end at 
Target and. 

1430
01:33:39,220 --> 01:33:41,660
I mean, I I don't disagree 
because I think I'm sitting here

1431
01:33:41,660 --> 01:33:47,140
with like 15% Logan Thomas. 
So and the question would be in,

1432
01:33:47,140 --> 01:33:51,860
in, in resurrection stuff and 
does this meaningfully change 

1433
01:33:51,940 --> 01:33:57,500
like maybe I'm thinking maybe 
this changes them from like like

1434
01:33:57,540 --> 01:34:03,260
maybe not, maybe not draftable 
to probably, probably good in 

1435
01:34:03,260 --> 01:34:06,800
the 15th? 
I I think the only reason he 

1436
01:34:06,800 --> 01:34:10,120
wasn't getting drafted was the 
injury concerns I think right 

1437
01:34:10,120 --> 01:34:13,920
people wanted people wanted that
role potentially right there is 

1438
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,600
I never really bought into the 
the enemies tight end. 

1439
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:19,560
It's gonna it's the Travis 
Kelsey roles. 

1440
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,560
No it's not the Travis Travis 
Kelsey is the reason that 

1441
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:24,080
there's the Travis Kelsey role 
right. 

1442
01:34:24,080 --> 01:34:27,280
You know, like, it's not. 
It's not that whatever tight end

1443
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:29,560
plays in this offense is just a 
skeleton key. 

1444
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:33,280
Like, he's gonna smash. 
But I do think he's interesting.

1445
01:34:33,280 --> 01:34:35,520
I I think Logan Thomas is 
interesting for sure. 

1446
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,720
I mean, yeah, it's definitely 
one where he should be drafted. 

1447
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,800
It's just don't there's the 
injury risk, you know. 

1448
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,000
So he hasn't hasn't stayed 
healthy for a long time, right? 

1449
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:53,400
So, so then it sounds like maybe
you're are you drafting him 

1450
01:34:53,400 --> 01:34:57,360
earlier then then? 
I take him a little earlier. 

1451
01:34:57,400 --> 01:34:59,600
He, he I'm comfortable. 
Where would he? 

1452
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:01,080
Where would he become the target
for you? 

1453
01:35:02,530 --> 01:35:04,530
It's it's on howl teams that 
he's at Target. 

1454
01:35:04,530 --> 01:35:07,810
I'm probably not taking him 
naked a ton, You know not. 

1455
01:35:08,450 --> 01:35:11,770
It but like the late rounds 
don't matter. 

1456
01:35:11,770 --> 01:35:14,370
The ADP doesn't matter. 
You know we're we're not good. 

1457
01:35:14,370 --> 01:35:18,810
The market's so bad pricing, so 
for sure who cares? 

1458
01:35:18,810 --> 01:35:22,070
1415161718 solid. 
It's the same. 

1459
01:35:22,750 --> 01:35:25,910
I'll take them anywhere in there
where it just depends on my 

1460
01:35:25,910 --> 01:35:30,150
roster construction what I need.
If I need 3 late tight ends and 

1461
01:35:30,150 --> 01:35:33,470
I'm like okay, I really wanna 
make sure that I get Logan 

1462
01:35:33,470 --> 01:35:37,390
Thomas and I wanna make sure 
that I'm grabbing Adam Troutman,

1463
01:35:37,390 --> 01:35:42,150
cuz I'm a masochist. 
Then sure, I'll click them 

1464
01:35:42,150 --> 01:35:47,890
wherever I need to in the right,
but and you you're taking, 

1465
01:35:48,130 --> 01:35:50,610
you're you're taking him at a 
spot where it's kind of like 

1466
01:35:50,650 --> 01:35:54,290
low, low opportunity cost. 
Yeah, yeah, I'm not. 

1467
01:35:54,290 --> 01:35:55,810
He's certainly not like moving 
up. 

1468
01:35:55,930 --> 01:35:58,970
He's not creeping up into like 
the right or something for me 

1469
01:35:59,930 --> 01:36:07,010
and so I I guess the the 100 
prior that we have to talk about

1470
01:36:07,530 --> 01:36:13,690
is that Durance might where 
literally 100% of past plays and

1471
01:36:13,690 --> 01:36:16,730
it was checking before it wasn't
like there was some weird injury

1472
01:36:17,030 --> 01:36:19,990
that he was the only healthy 
tight end there like no that 

1473
01:36:19,990 --> 01:36:25,150
that's his role he and maybe 
he's not 100% all year and but 

1474
01:36:25,790 --> 01:36:30,430
pretty like this is this is like
in terms of like snaps and roots

1475
01:36:30,830 --> 01:36:36,150
this is like pretty much elite 
and yeah 14% target per outrun 

1476
01:36:36,470 --> 01:36:43,310
is like a mediocre and tight end
I think but at elite snaps it's 

1477
01:36:43,310 --> 01:36:48,940
like holy like if that if that 
if that holds he's basically the

1478
01:36:48,940 --> 01:36:52,580
late tight end of the season. 
Like we we should have we should

1479
01:36:52,580 --> 01:37:00,100
have been drafting Durham's life
everybody and and it it becomes 

1480
01:37:00,580 --> 01:37:03,620
for me a type of player like 
that becomes quite challenging 

1481
01:37:04,140 --> 01:37:10,860
because if that just holds then 
he's probably like I don't know 

1482
01:37:10,940 --> 01:37:17,410
like honestly a pretty strong 
like 12th 11 tenth round target 

1483
01:37:17,610 --> 01:37:21,050
which that feels that feels 
aggressive but like I'm like 

1484
01:37:21,410 --> 01:37:26,370
just from the mats of it if that
holds and and like I don't see I

1485
01:37:26,370 --> 01:37:30,090
don't see a compelling reason to
think that it doesn't hold like.

1486
01:37:30,170 --> 01:37:35,490
I and yeah, go ahead. 
I'd say as far as like his 

1487
01:37:35,490 --> 01:37:40,210
price, I don't have high 
conviction in the market's 

1488
01:37:40,210 --> 01:37:43,490
ability to price all of the 
tight ends efficiently. 

1489
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,280
So if they priced Smythe 
efficiently, there's other guys 

1490
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:50,360
that are priced inefficiently 
and I just, I won't take Smythe 

1491
01:37:50,480 --> 01:37:55,000
in. 
So you know the reason I'm I 

1492
01:37:55,000 --> 01:38:01,560
like I like to talk about these 
players in terms of like ADP and

1493
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:06,120
stuff like that just because it 
for me and this is I guess for 

1494
01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:11,720
everyone as well for me if it 
feels like a way where it forces

1495
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:16,330
me to be honest it forces me to 
compare players it forces me to 

1496
01:38:16,330 --> 01:38:21,690
like really like get in the gut 
of like okay I'm I'm forced into

1497
01:38:21,690 --> 01:38:28,970
a decision what what do I do. 
And and it sounds like you're in

1498
01:38:28,970 --> 01:38:32,890
in terms of during flight and 
you're like okay that feels like

1499
01:38:33,370 --> 01:38:38,490
it might be efficient to a tad 
aggressive and it'll be easy for

1500
01:38:38,490 --> 01:38:43,000
me to ignore that and then if 
he's if he's much later than 

1501
01:38:43,000 --> 01:38:45,240
that then smashing you all day 
long. 

1502
01:38:46,600 --> 01:38:50,560
Yeah. 
And I I I completely agree with 

1503
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:55,600
that and I I think that that's 
that's the way I I I would play 

1504
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,920
it as well and but I'm just I'm 
just trying to come up with like

1505
01:38:58,920 --> 01:39:05,440
a yeah a way where I'm forced, 
I'm forced to put a number I'm 

1506
01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:07,720
forced to put something 
objective on a player. 

1507
01:39:08,240 --> 01:39:09,960
Yeah, I know. 
That's a that's a good point. 

1508
01:39:09,960 --> 01:39:13,240
And yeah, so hypothetically if 
he was going in, in the 12th 

1509
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:16,240
round and without knowledge of 
assuming the market gets 

1510
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:18,240
everyone efficient, right, 
right. 

1511
01:39:18,240 --> 01:39:21,920
And then I probably am taking 
some shots on him in the 12th 

1512
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,160
and I'm certainly gonna be more 
prone to do it with Tua. 

1513
01:39:26,160 --> 01:39:28,840
I really want that tied into 
quarterback correlation. 

1514
01:39:28,840 --> 01:39:31,000
I think it's super valuable. 
Yeah, just especially with 

1515
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,510
Smythe where. 
What is such a large percentage 

1516
01:39:34,590 --> 01:39:36,990
of his fantasy points this 
season are going to come from 

1517
01:39:36,990 --> 01:39:38,110
touchdowns. 
Yeah. 

1518
01:39:38,110 --> 01:39:41,030
So I just, I just want those 
correlated with my quarterback. 

1519
01:39:41,710 --> 01:39:44,870
So like in DFS, if I'm ever 
playing Durham Smythe, I'm never

1520
01:39:44,870 --> 01:39:46,790
playing Durham Smythe without 
Tua, right? 

1521
01:39:46,790 --> 01:39:51,310
Like, yeah yeah. 
And and in best fall like I'm 

1522
01:39:51,310 --> 01:39:54,070
probably not drafting a ton of 
Durham Smythe without Tua. 

1523
01:39:54,430 --> 01:39:57,710
But if he's like falling past 
ADP and taking him and and yeah,

1524
01:39:57,710 --> 01:40:00,920
if he's going in the 12th. 
That's probably efficient 

1525
01:40:00,920 --> 01:40:03,360
because we end up with a lot of 
the gross guys that were more 

1526
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:06,080
ambiguous in in the 12th round, 
like Dalton Schultz ain't going 

1527
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:08,040
on the 12th anymore. 
You know, like, no, that's 

1528
01:40:08,160 --> 01:40:11,880
that's gone. 
Another one I wanted to bring 

1529
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:14,360
up, I I could sit here and talk 
about Durham Smith all day. 

1530
01:40:15,880 --> 01:40:17,960
What do we do with Zach Hurts, 
man? 

1531
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:24,000
What do we do about Zach Hurts? 
And it sort of feels like who 

1532
01:40:24,440 --> 01:40:27,560
who I wanted and and what's his 
name? 

1533
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:29,640
Who's the other try to enter the
Cardinals? 

1534
01:40:30,850 --> 01:40:32,490
Oh my gosh. 
Trey McBride, thank you. 

1535
01:40:32,570 --> 01:40:35,370
Thank you. 
It feels like no thank you. 

1536
01:40:36,290 --> 01:40:39,330
It feels like who we wanted Trey
McBride to be. 

1537
01:40:41,450 --> 01:40:48,010
And again it feels it feels 
similar to to what's his name 

1538
01:40:48,130 --> 01:40:53,650
Logan Thomas where it's like 
this older guy but elite role 

1539
01:40:53,930 --> 01:40:58,490
like completely elite role and 
and so hard to ignore. 

1540
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:05,400
Again, if I think he's similar 
in that like where if you find 

1541
01:41:05,400 --> 01:41:11,640
yourself like just needing a 
late guy and it's like he's 

1542
01:41:11,640 --> 01:41:16,760
gonna be a target in teams where
you need late tight ends and but

1543
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:18,840
don't want to pay middle round 
prices. 

1544
01:41:19,650 --> 01:41:23,650
Yeah my my biggest. 
So like weekly like Zacherts 

1545
01:41:23,650 --> 01:41:26,490
could be a great DFS but I 
haven't seen the prices on on 

1546
01:41:26,530 --> 01:41:28,770
earth. 
But like he's he's the kind of 

1547
01:41:28,770 --> 01:41:32,290
guy where in a in a single week 
that could absolutely be a great

1548
01:41:32,610 --> 01:41:35,050
you know tight end punt. 
Especially if he's cheap. 

1549
01:41:36,410 --> 01:41:40,970
But for for like a resurrection 
tournament, ohh my goodness am I

1550
01:41:40,970 --> 01:41:44,410
really gonna bet on Zachert's 
maintaining this role all the 

1551
01:41:44,410 --> 01:41:46,690
way through the season like 
that? 

1552
01:41:46,690 --> 01:41:49,130
Seems very thin to me. 
And so. 

1553
01:41:49,920 --> 01:41:53,240
I guess if you're taking it as 
an advanced rate play like you 

1554
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:57,560
could Stoneman on there, Drop 
Kings. 

1555
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:02,200
And it's who are Cardinals at 
next week? 

1556
01:42:03,200 --> 01:42:09,800
And let me tell you just now, 
Arizona are home to the joints. 

1557
01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:13,560
Don't Don't do me Bros. 
It's it's Zach. 

1558
01:42:13,560 --> 01:42:17,880
Or it's 100% of the tight end 
slot DK this week, locking it in

1559
01:42:19,070 --> 01:42:23,950
and so actually, not Stoneman. 
I'm an idiot. 

1560
01:42:23,990 --> 01:42:25,750
He's 3500. 
OK. 

1561
01:42:25,990 --> 01:42:28,710
All right, that that was. 
Sorry, dumb. 

1562
01:42:29,470 --> 01:42:33,390
And Stoneman would have had me 
got me bricked up there for some

1563
01:42:33,390 --> 01:42:36,070
Stoneman Zachary. 
It's at 32% targets per route 

1564
01:42:36,070 --> 01:42:47,470
run and and then Logan Thomas, 
he's 3100 a way to Denver. 

1565
01:42:48,140 --> 01:42:51,740
OK. 
And and so I guess and given 

1566
01:42:51,780 --> 01:42:55,460
given the comparison if it it 
does feel like you're stronger 

1567
01:42:55,460 --> 01:43:01,340
on on Thomas than than Eric's is
is that just the offense and and

1568
01:43:01,500 --> 01:43:04,060
and that you expect to be 
better. 

1569
01:43:04,460 --> 01:43:08,700
Despite Thomas also being old, 
he's not as old as Zach Erdz and

1570
01:43:08,700 --> 01:43:11,820
he's also a better athlete that 
he he has always been a better 

1571
01:43:11,820 --> 01:43:16,260
athlete than Zach Erdz and so if
I'm assuming both these guys are

1572
01:43:16,260 --> 01:43:19,970
healthy. 
I think Thomas could deliver me 

1573
01:43:19,970 --> 01:43:23,890
a splash play. 
You know, I don't think there's 

1574
01:43:23,890 --> 01:43:26,570
there's not a universe where 
Zachary's gets a breakaway 

1575
01:43:26,570 --> 01:43:29,250
touchdown. 
You know he's never gonna. 

1576
01:43:29,730 --> 01:43:33,490
Never gonna house one from you 
know he could get some end zone 

1577
01:43:33,490 --> 01:43:37,130
targets but he's not you know 
breaking away from right He was 

1578
01:43:37,130 --> 01:43:43,370
not working Fall down catching 
him fall down and I I mean maybe

1579
01:43:43,370 --> 01:43:45,890
I'm maybe I'm I'm being mean 
here I think they're like only 

1580
01:43:45,890 --> 01:43:48,470
six months apart in age. 
Are they really? 

1581
01:43:48,670 --> 01:43:50,830
Oh my God. 
Wow. 

1582
01:43:50,990 --> 01:43:53,990
I I guess Logan Thomas just 
spent a lot of time injured. 

1583
01:43:53,990 --> 01:43:58,190
Then he spent a lot of time 
injured and playing and trying 

1584
01:43:58,190 --> 01:44:01,150
to be a certain quarterback. 
Yeah, that and I. 

1585
01:44:01,230 --> 01:44:03,150
Was he an old prospect coming in
too? 

1586
01:44:03,710 --> 01:44:05,350
I think he might have been. 
OK. 

1587
01:44:05,430 --> 01:44:08,110
That that would that would track
like he started playing tight 

1588
01:44:08,110 --> 01:44:12,110
end like 29 or 30. 
OK, I know, I know, he was a a 

1589
01:44:12,110 --> 01:44:14,750
converted quarterback, but that 
that makes sense. 

1590
01:44:16,260 --> 01:44:21,460
The the other I did wanna I 
wanted to go and and look at 

1591
01:44:21,460 --> 01:44:24,580
Hayden Hurst who put up a fine 
box score this week. 

1592
01:44:24,700 --> 01:44:27,980
Right. 
Wasn't yeah wasn't on the field 

1593
01:44:27,980 --> 01:44:31,460
a ton didn't run a ton of routes
but did I mean he was the 

1594
01:44:31,460 --> 01:44:36,260
leading target earner on that 
team and it it might just end up

1595
01:44:36,260 --> 01:44:39,220
playing out as the the rookie 
quarterback safety blankie 

1596
01:44:39,260 --> 01:44:45,040
narrative with right. 
You know, I mean I'll go on a 

1597
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:49,840
limb and say I think that like 
Hayden Hurst being the low at 

1598
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:56,720
root root chair, high target guy
doesn't, it doesn't feel super 

1599
01:44:56,720 --> 01:45:00,840
sustainable. 
Like, I mean maybe maybe you 

1600
01:45:00,840 --> 01:45:04,480
want to disagree and but it 
feels like those those types of 

1601
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:10,880
combinations are normally like 
sort of gadget guys or and 

1602
01:45:10,880 --> 01:45:13,280
players that are like real tough
matchups. 

1603
01:45:14,160 --> 01:45:16,120
Yeah, like maybe they're really 
big. 

1604
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:22,560
They go in when they're on the 
end zone And Hayden Hurst, he 

1605
01:45:22,800 --> 01:45:25,760
doesn't strike me as that type 
of player. 

1606
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:30,920
So I do have. 
That's one where I have a hard 

1607
01:45:30,920 --> 01:45:36,120
time seeing sustained. 
I I agree with you if he if he 

1608
01:45:36,120 --> 01:45:40,200
runs this number of routes every
week yeah I I don't think it's 

1609
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:44,440
sustaining my my thesis for how 
how does Hayden Hearst continue 

1610
01:45:44,440 --> 01:45:50,440
to return fantasy value would be
that they see that dude we can't

1611
01:45:50,440 --> 01:45:53,400
complete passes to anyway we got
terrorist marshal out here going

1612
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:56,640
2 for six and like right. 
Are we really going to throw 

1613
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:59,320
more to Leviskas Genal to like 
Adam Thielan? 

1614
01:45:59,440 --> 01:46:01,810
Like? 
They just refuse to let Adam 

1615
01:46:01,810 --> 01:46:05,250
Thieler take his Walker on the 
field, and he can't make a break

1616
01:46:05,250 --> 01:46:07,290
without it. 
So, like, maybe Hayden Hearst 

1617
01:46:07,770 --> 01:46:09,970
sees a little bit. 
Maybe he's the only target in 

1618
01:46:09,970 --> 01:46:13,290
her. 
Yes, that's maybe he gets more 

1619
01:46:13,410 --> 01:46:18,370
routes and he's on the field 
more just out of necessity is. 

1620
01:46:18,770 --> 01:46:22,250
What I could see happening but 
but it's also Shark was out this

1621
01:46:22,250 --> 01:46:25,210
week so maybe it's just shark 
gets healthy and Hearst 

1622
01:46:25,210 --> 01:46:29,130
maintains this amount of route 
share and he turns back into a 

1623
01:46:29,130 --> 01:46:35,130
pumpkin after week one and yeah 
that that makes sense and I'm 

1624
01:46:35,130 --> 01:46:41,650
just last one before we move on 
and the Porter was interesting 

1625
01:46:42,010 --> 01:46:46,410
and it's it's definitely if 
where you draft them you're 

1626
01:46:46,410 --> 01:46:51,750
happy to see him on the on the 
starting tight end chart you're 

1627
01:46:51,750 --> 01:46:56,910
at you're happy to see the 19% 
and target perette run you're 

1628
01:46:56,950 --> 01:47:05,030
you're probably not too pleased 
to see the 4A dot but this feels

1629
01:47:05,030 --> 01:47:10,950
like a sort of like a neutral 
ish the ADP outcome for week 1 

1630
01:47:10,950 --> 01:47:20,330
for la Porta and and and what 
you call it may maybe a slight A

1631
01:47:20,330 --> 01:47:24,370
slight win in terms of like the 
rookie the rookie tight end he 

1632
01:47:24,370 --> 01:47:28,530
is playing and and and and 
perhaps as the season goes on he

1633
01:47:28,610 --> 01:47:32,770
he he goes end up at the top of 
his chart and and if he can if 

1634
01:47:32,770 --> 01:47:35,130
he can keep the rest of his 
numbers and maybe increases a 

1635
01:47:35,130 --> 01:47:41,050
dot and become a big win. 
Yeah, I I mean, I I thought it 

1636
01:47:41,050 --> 01:47:44,330
was pretty bullish for La Porta 
to be because you gotta remember

1637
01:47:44,330 --> 01:47:47,030
that, that. 
That team, that organization, 

1638
01:47:47,190 --> 01:47:49,710
they they have been slow to 
bring on rookies. 

1639
01:47:49,790 --> 01:47:51,070
Yeah, in their office. 
No, you're right. 

1640
01:47:51,670 --> 01:47:55,870
And so that's that was pretty 
strong signal to me that this is

1641
01:47:55,950 --> 01:47:58,910
they they think this guy is doed
like they they want him on the 

1642
01:47:58,950 --> 01:48:03,390
field and they barely played 
them whereas the reporter the. 

1643
01:48:03,430 --> 01:48:06,630
Reporter was earning targets 
like he was he was involved 

1644
01:48:06,630 --> 01:48:10,670
often the the low a dot is like 
you'd love to see you know a 

1645
01:48:10,670 --> 01:48:14,710
higher a dot but yeah I I think 
the way that offense. 

1646
01:48:15,690 --> 01:48:18,810
Is set up right now before they 
get Jamison Williams back, which

1647
01:48:18,810 --> 01:48:22,170
who knows how that's gonna even 
work when Jamison's back, like, 

1648
01:48:22,170 --> 01:48:25,810
is he even useful. 
But right now they don't really 

1649
01:48:25,810 --> 01:48:29,330
have anyone that's a field 
stretcher that can operate in 

1650
01:48:29,330 --> 01:48:31,650
that deep. 
You know, those deep areas of 

1651
01:48:31,650 --> 01:48:34,250
the field. 
Like, it's not Marvin Jones. 

1652
01:48:34,250 --> 01:48:37,770
Marvin Jones looked bad and and 
Josh Reynolds. 

1653
01:48:38,410 --> 01:48:40,090
Josh Reynolds looked like Josh 
Reynolds. 

1654
01:48:40,210 --> 01:48:41,210
He was. 
He's fine. 

1655
01:48:41,210 --> 01:48:44,960
He's serviceable. 
But do you think that La Porta 

1656
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:50,280
could end up getting a higher A 
dot just out of necessity for 

1657
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:52,640
the team to function like they 
need someone? 

1658
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:56,320
Yeah. 
And I think, well, I think maybe

1659
01:48:56,320 --> 01:49:01,880
I'm React, I'm probably at, I'm 
saying 4.2 and then it's like, 

1660
01:49:02,440 --> 01:49:06,440
well he got 5 targets like talk 
about a small sample size. 

1661
01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:09,240
Yeah, who? 
Who? 

1662
01:49:09,360 --> 01:49:10,920
Who? 
Maybe his true. 

1663
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:14,320
Maybe his true. 
A dot right now is 8, even 

1664
01:49:14,320 --> 01:49:16,960
without any factors like being 
in at all. 

1665
01:49:17,440 --> 01:49:20,000
And then yeah, the receivers 
absolutely stink. 

1666
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:25,800
So, like, if he's any good at 
all like it, it pretty much 

1667
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:28,360
becomes a necessity to involve 
him down the field. 

1668
01:49:29,160 --> 01:49:32,320
So in like, in a resurrection 
tournament, you said you thought

1669
01:49:32,320 --> 01:49:36,880
this was neutral ish for his 
ADP, yeah. 

1670
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:39,760
Where you would you would be 
taking him at the same ADP in a 

1671
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:43,680
resurrection tournament. 
Well, I was, I was taking, I was

1672
01:49:43,680 --> 01:49:46,200
actually taking the reporter 
quite a bit already. 

1673
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,200
So maybe maybe that's maybe 
that's a misleading thing for me

1674
01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:52,080
to say. 
And mostly on FFP, just to 

1675
01:49:52,080 --> 01:49:53,120
clarify. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 

1676
01:49:53,160 --> 01:49:56,360
That was on FFPC and. 
Which people forget is tight end

1677
01:49:56,360 --> 01:50:01,880
premium it's tight end premium 
and and honestly I I I was 

1678
01:50:01,880 --> 01:50:06,140
thinking in terms of FFPC which 
which which me a couple that's 

1679
01:50:06,140 --> 01:50:12,300
not correct and I wasn't 
drafting on UD and enough to 

1680
01:50:12,300 --> 01:50:15,460
know where where where was the 
Porter going he he. 

1681
01:50:15,460 --> 01:50:17,780
Had crept up a lot. 
He is like in the in the early 

1682
01:50:17,780 --> 01:50:21,820
one 40s by the end of the draft 
season OK so yeah definitely 

1683
01:50:21,900 --> 01:50:26,820
definitely better than neutral 
and I I I think you're you're 

1684
01:50:26,820 --> 01:50:30,420
happily taking him and 10th 
through 12th and. 

1685
01:50:30,780 --> 01:50:33,740
I was, I was gonna say 10th is 
the high, the high end as well. 

1686
01:50:33,740 --> 01:50:40,650
So we agree and so yeah, that 
that, that that was a 

1687
01:50:40,650 --> 01:50:43,650
misstatement by me. 
So I'm glad you you you you 

1688
01:50:44,850 --> 01:50:47,850
pointed to that. 
It's OK, I I know you have FFPC 

1689
01:50:47,850 --> 01:50:50,450
frame. 
Yeah, just a little bit. 

1690
01:50:50,970 --> 01:50:57,810
And so I think, I think we 
almost have to skip the the 

1691
01:50:57,810 --> 01:51:00,970
backup tight end chart. 
And I do have, I have two. 

1692
01:51:01,290 --> 01:51:04,170
We'll keep it on, keep this 
tight on this one because I know

1693
01:51:04,170 --> 01:51:06,140
we've been. 
Almost two hours now. 

1694
01:51:06,140 --> 01:51:09,700
But yeah, there's two that stood
out here to me. 

1695
01:51:10,140 --> 01:51:12,500
One was Friar Meuth. 
This is noise. 

1696
01:51:12,580 --> 01:51:14,820
He got injured. 
He he hurt his chest. 

1697
01:51:14,820 --> 01:51:16,020
He came back. 
He's fine. 

1698
01:51:16,620 --> 01:51:20,940
He he'll have wait calls. 
So pat Friar meuth start. 

1699
01:51:20,940 --> 01:51:23,820
Still a starting toilet. 
Yeah, don't don't panic on Friar

1700
01:51:23,860 --> 01:51:26,540
meth. 
The other one is absolutely 

1701
01:51:26,580 --> 01:51:32,060
elite targets per route run. 
Jake Ferguson 43% And if you 

1702
01:51:32,060 --> 01:51:34,620
watch the game, this was intent 
like. 

1703
01:51:35,390 --> 01:51:39,350
Ferguson was an early read in 
the progression it was there was

1704
01:51:39,350 --> 01:51:44,070
a lot of stuff for Ferguson and 
it's I thought there was a 

1705
01:51:44,070 --> 01:51:49,030
chance that the Cowboys tight 
end role would change with 

1706
01:51:49,390 --> 01:51:51,630
Kellen Moore leaving. 
It did not. 

1707
01:51:51,830 --> 01:51:55,590
The role is the same that is 
always going to be the safety 

1708
01:51:55,590 --> 01:51:59,430
blanket outlet. 
You know that's that is that is 

1709
01:51:59,430 --> 01:52:01,830
the, you know, low a dot. 
But. 

1710
01:52:02,220 --> 01:52:06,300
High volume role that we've seen
how boys tight ends have and 

1711
01:52:06,460 --> 01:52:09,540
we're seeing him on the backup 
tight end chart here and but 

1712
01:52:09,980 --> 01:52:12,140
that's probably they were up by 
so much. 

1713
01:52:12,180 --> 01:52:16,020
They yeah he he did not play a 
ton when we were just running 

1714
01:52:16,020 --> 01:52:21,340
Rico Dowdl you know straight up 
the middle or you know given I 

1715
01:52:21,380 --> 01:52:25,260
loved cabante turpins just out 
there getting like carries in 

1716
01:52:25,260 --> 01:52:27,460
the second app. 
We we had him early as some. 

1717
01:52:27,990 --> 01:52:29,830
And some gadgety stuff. 
It's like, let's throw. 

1718
01:52:29,830 --> 01:52:31,950
Come on, Deturpin out there in 
the second-half, get him some 

1719
01:52:31,950 --> 01:52:32,990
more carries. 
Let's throw. 

1720
01:52:32,990 --> 01:52:34,870
Deuce, deuce. 
Vaughn made an appearance. 

1721
01:52:34,870 --> 01:52:36,950
It was a great day to be a 
Cowboys fan, man. 

1722
01:52:36,950 --> 01:52:39,230
I was thoroughly enjoying myself
week one. 

1723
01:52:39,950 --> 01:52:43,030
I'm very happy for you, but we 
do have to talk about wide 

1724
01:52:43,030 --> 01:52:44,390
receivers. 
We do. 

1725
01:52:44,390 --> 01:52:45,590
And these charts are. 
These are. 

1726
01:52:46,820 --> 01:52:49,500
Charts that are pretty dense 
with information, so I'm gonna 

1727
01:52:49,500 --> 01:52:52,060
dive right into it. 
I'll kinda explain what these 

1728
01:52:52,060 --> 01:52:53,940
are. 
These are gonna be the wide 

1729
01:52:53,940 --> 01:52:56,820
receiver opportunity charts 
versus fantasy points. 

1730
01:52:56,820 --> 01:53:00,500
So the Y axis. the Y axis is 
gonna be noisy this week. 

1731
01:53:00,500 --> 01:53:03,260
It's just one week of sample. 
It's the fantasy points they 

1732
01:53:03,260 --> 01:53:06,460
scored this week. 
Yeah, the X axis is their 

1733
01:53:06,460 --> 01:53:11,650
weighted targets per route run. 
I can't remember if anyone ended

1734
01:53:11,650 --> 01:53:14,930
up over 100% weighted targets 
per route run, but that is 

1735
01:53:14,930 --> 01:53:19,410
possible with weighted targets 
per route run just because we're

1736
01:53:19,410 --> 01:53:22,490
also incorporating the depth of 
target in there. 

1737
01:53:23,450 --> 01:53:27,320
And so you can see right away 
Brandon, I you agree is that 

1738
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:29,320
he's he's in notorious. 
He breaks. 

1739
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:32,080
He breaks, I believe. 
I believe he does break the next

1740
01:53:32,080 --> 01:53:32,880
chart. 
Yeah. 

1741
01:53:33,640 --> 01:53:37,120
I you obviously looked elite. 
There was drum beat on him all 

1742
01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:39,840
off season that he was. 
He's going to take the next leap

1743
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:42,080
week one certainly looks that 
way. 

1744
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:46,120
I'm I'm not ready to crown him 
yet as like the wide receiver 

1745
01:53:46,120 --> 01:53:48,680
one on that team. 
I think the way that team's 

1746
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:53,040
points get every week is, is it 
puka or puka? 

1747
01:53:53,560 --> 01:53:54,400
Puka. 
Puka. 

1748
01:53:56,550 --> 01:53:59,270
Yeah. 
Sorry, go ahead. 

1749
01:53:59,910 --> 01:54:01,950
Yeah, I was just rambling about 
IUK. 

1750
01:54:01,990 --> 01:54:03,990
I think it's gonna be pretty 
highly variant though. 

1751
01:54:03,990 --> 01:54:07,670
The way that the 9 inch points 
get distributed, it wouldn't 

1752
01:54:07,670 --> 01:54:13,470
surprise me at all to see IUK 
and Debo literally switch places

1753
01:54:13,710 --> 01:54:17,270
on these charts in future weeks.
I think it's gonna be. 

1754
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:21,320
Very highly variant, but I 
that's not to take anything away

1755
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:23,280
from IUQ. 
It's probably a smash at his 

1756
01:54:23,280 --> 01:54:25,880
price in drafts, and should go 
higher in resurrection 

1757
01:54:25,880 --> 01:54:30,120
tournaments, right? 
Puka, let's talk about puka 

1758
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:32,520
though cuz that's gonna be 
that's one that people have to 

1759
01:54:32,520 --> 01:54:36,320
make decisions on on waivers and
that's a that's an interesting 

1760
01:54:36,320 --> 01:54:38,680
one. 
Yeah. 

1761
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:43,440
And it it it it is an 
interesting one in that like you

1762
01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:50,770
know and it was sort of a it was
sort of a reason that he he was 

1763
01:54:50,770 --> 01:54:55,450
going so late and but then when 
you see him play so well in the 

1764
01:54:55,450 --> 01:55:04,810
NFL you do have to respond and 
when you see someone get get a 

1765
01:55:04,810 --> 01:55:11,130
90% root share this despite 
their injury to Cook and you see

1766
01:55:11,810 --> 01:55:16,410
heavily targeted. 
It's it's hard it it's really 

1767
01:55:16,410 --> 01:55:21,770
hard to fade a receiver who's 
getting high root share and high

1768
01:55:22,010 --> 01:55:26,930
and target per route run like 
because there's not a lot of 

1769
01:55:26,930 --> 01:55:33,850
room to like shit on that and 
and it's it's one of those 

1770
01:55:33,850 --> 01:55:37,610
things where I I I always I I do
always feel uncomfortable 

1771
01:55:37,850 --> 01:55:44,580
betting on these like guys out 
of nowhere and but I think it's 

1772
01:55:44,580 --> 01:55:49,900
like you get you get 
opportunities like this so few 

1773
01:55:49,900 --> 01:55:54,180
and far between that he is 
someone where if if if I've got 

1774
01:55:54,180 --> 01:55:58,620
some injuries at wide receiver 
already and I I think I do want 

1775
01:55:58,620 --> 01:56:01,980
to be quite quite aggressive on 
on getting him. 

1776
01:56:02,980 --> 01:56:04,540
I think that's how you have to 
play it. 

1777
01:56:04,700 --> 01:56:07,300
You don't have if you have 
injuries at white. 

1778
01:56:07,300 --> 01:56:09,580
If you need wide receiver 
starters, you don't really have 

1779
01:56:09,580 --> 01:56:12,140
the luxury to be like, Oh well, 
what if? 

1780
01:56:12,930 --> 01:56:14,330
Right. 
Who could a Hoola. 

1781
01:56:14,690 --> 01:56:17,250
No, that's not for real. 
Like, I don't think you have the

1782
01:56:17,250 --> 01:56:20,810
luxury to do that. 
You just have to, you know there

1783
01:56:20,850 --> 01:56:24,170
there's a probability where the 
vet doesn't hit and he turns 

1784
01:56:24,170 --> 01:56:26,970
back into a pumpkin. 
But there is also an outcome 

1785
01:56:26,970 --> 01:56:30,770
where even after Cooper Cup 
comes back, this is the wide 

1786
01:56:30,770 --> 01:56:34,090
receiver 2IN the offense, and 
it's an offense that hasn't had 

1787
01:56:34,090 --> 01:56:38,610
a wide receiver 2IN years and it
it could be a guy that. 

1788
01:56:39,730 --> 01:56:42,610
You know we we we look back on 
at the end of the season it's 

1789
01:56:42,610 --> 01:56:45,130
like how did we miss this like 
this right. 

1790
01:56:46,050 --> 01:56:50,330
So I I don't think you have the 
luxury of of waiting patiently 

1791
01:56:50,370 --> 01:56:52,970
on puka Nakua. 
He he arrived in too big of a 

1792
01:56:52,970 --> 01:56:55,930
way in week one. 
You just if you need him, you 

1793
01:56:55,930 --> 01:56:57,450
gotta be pretty aggressive on 
it. 

1794
01:56:57,450 --> 01:57:00,850
I think so. 
Yeah, I agree. 

1795
01:57:01,770 --> 01:57:04,770
Aaron Aaron in the chat asked 
How much fab on Puka? 

1796
01:57:05,570 --> 01:57:07,010
What it What do you think? 
I'm. 

1797
01:57:07,010 --> 01:57:16,000
I'm still undecided and I'm like
I'm I'm probably not the best I 

1798
01:57:16,080 --> 01:57:24,680
I I'm not as good as a a staff 
or a resident sort of fab queen 

1799
01:57:25,040 --> 01:57:30,440
and so whatever she says after 
this is is the right answer and 

1800
01:57:31,000 --> 01:57:37,240
but I think especially if you're
especially if you need a 

1801
01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:42,720
receiver I think honestly like 
50 to 60% is is like fine. 

1802
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:49,280
I I was in my head I had like 30
thirty 35% but you you might be 

1803
01:57:49,280 --> 01:57:55,400
you know like if if what we saw 
is like not too crazy of a 

1804
01:57:55,680 --> 01:57:58,720
ceiling game for puka. 
If it's like, Nah, this guy's 

1805
01:57:58,720 --> 01:58:02,880
just going to get, he's earning 
target right You're you're not 

1806
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:05,640
wrong like it. 
You should spend 60% on a player

1807
01:58:05,640 --> 01:58:08,890
like that so. 
I I guess it comes down to like 

1808
01:58:08,890 --> 01:58:12,210
knowing the leak that you're in 
and what they're gonna yeah. 

1809
01:58:12,330 --> 01:58:13,570
To get Puka. 
Right. 

1810
01:58:13,810 --> 01:58:14,330
Right. 
Yeah. 

1811
01:58:14,330 --> 01:58:19,010
Yeah yeah you you don't want to 
feel like the idiot who paid 60 

1812
01:58:19,010 --> 01:58:25,490
when the next bid was that was 
27 or some point time and but 

1813
01:58:25,530 --> 01:58:28,730
I'm I'm I'm more trying to think
of like what's an efficient bid 

1814
01:58:29,330 --> 01:58:33,170
and and I think that's right and
but it's like you say you do 

1815
01:58:33,170 --> 01:58:38,620
have to you do have to to be 
careful that you're not 

1816
01:58:38,620 --> 01:58:40,660
overestimating your league 
mates. 

1817
01:58:41,500 --> 01:58:45,380
Guys that I am looking at here 
is like a potential buying 

1818
01:58:45,380 --> 01:58:49,340
opportunity. 
So my goodness did Ryan 

1819
01:58:49,340 --> 01:58:52,780
Tannehill looked atrocious. 
Like really, really bad. 

1820
01:58:54,100 --> 01:58:59,400
But DeAndre Hopkins? 
Is I I think he's still fine I 

1821
01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:02,800
think I think you definitely I 
mean I don't really know how the

1822
01:59:02,800 --> 01:59:04,840
quarterback play improves a ton 
of they. 

1823
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:07,800
I don't think they make a switch
and get better quarterback play 

1824
01:59:07,800 --> 01:59:09,440
right. 
So I think you're just you're 

1825
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:13,880
just banking on Ryan Tannehill 
to come back and show that he's 

1826
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:16,080
a competent NFL quarterback, 
which he has been. 

1827
01:59:16,080 --> 01:59:18,920
He's he's supported high end 
receivers before. 

1828
01:59:19,360 --> 01:59:23,920
So I think just like chalk Game 
one up as a bad game and be 

1829
01:59:23,920 --> 01:59:27,030
willing to say. 
DeAndre Hopkins is still you 

1830
01:59:27,030 --> 01:59:30,390
know getting elite weighted 
targets per route run and are 

1831
01:59:30,390 --> 01:59:34,190
you still are you buying and 
that are not still are you 

1832
01:59:34,190 --> 01:59:38,310
buying I'll see trailing Burkes 
hanging out here with the with 

1833
01:59:38,310 --> 01:59:44,950
the cardio club Nuke way ahead 
of them like you pointed out and

1834
01:59:45,030 --> 01:59:48,230
and that's sort of like would 
feed into this narrative of like

1835
01:59:48,230 --> 01:59:51,750
you know Nuke he's gonna earn so
many targets that there's 

1836
01:59:51,750 --> 01:59:59,410
nothing left for Burkes and I I 
I I'm maybe stubborn and I feel 

1837
01:59:59,410 --> 02:00:03,650
a hard I have a hard time buying
it are you and are you buying 

1838
02:00:03,650 --> 02:00:06,490
that differential. 
No, I I think that Birch is 

1839
02:00:06,490 --> 02:00:08,130
gonna creep much closer to 
Hopkins. 

1840
02:00:08,130 --> 02:00:12,130
I think what we're seeing is 
that he had an injury and he 

1841
02:00:12,130 --> 02:00:16,650
they were easy and back. 
You know, I don't I don't think 

1842
02:00:16,650 --> 02:00:20,490
that sticks and also like last 
season got derailed for him too 

1843
02:00:20,490 --> 02:00:23,150
because of injury. 
So it's right I I just think 

1844
02:00:23,150 --> 02:00:26,630
we're still we're still early in
the trail and Burke's you know 

1845
02:00:26,630 --> 02:00:31,950
career arc and he he absolutely 
we almost were getting the 

1846
02:00:31,950 --> 02:00:36,070
breakout last season and then he
got knocked into an alternate 

1847
02:00:36,070 --> 02:00:38,990
dimension you know and can cast 
the end zone on that play. 

1848
02:00:39,590 --> 02:00:45,790
And so I I think that we could 
still see like I I I can see it 

1849
02:00:45,790 --> 02:00:49,260
pretty clearly like that there's
a week where the trail on Burks 

1850
02:00:49,260 --> 02:00:53,220
has arrived game happens. 
It's like, holy shit, like, why?

1851
02:00:53,220 --> 02:00:55,420
How did this guy ever fall to 
the ninth round? 

1852
02:00:55,420 --> 02:00:57,660
Like, that was amazing, you 
know? 

1853
02:00:58,860 --> 02:01:01,260
So we're buying. 
The trail on Burks Dip is what 

1854
02:01:01,260 --> 02:01:02,820
we're saying. 
Yeah, I agree. 

1855
02:01:03,340 --> 02:01:06,700
Yeah I think we're buying the 
trail on burks dip guys that I'm

1856
02:01:07,020 --> 02:01:11,700
in that cardio club range where 
I'm like yeah, I'm good off that

1857
02:01:12,610 --> 02:01:15,770
Ohh man Drake London is so scary
to me. 

1858
02:01:15,770 --> 02:01:18,930
If he dips enough I'm just gonna
take shots on the talent and 

1859
02:01:18,930 --> 02:01:22,930
like assume I I'm in my mind. 
The way I'm gonna sell myself on

1860
02:01:22,930 --> 02:01:27,250
when I click Drake London and 
best ball resurrection is that 

1861
02:01:27,690 --> 02:01:31,890
they won't it won't be like week
one every week they can't 

1862
02:01:31,890 --> 02:01:36,490
possibly throw this few passes. 
There have to be more passes. 

1863
02:01:36,930 --> 02:01:41,060
That's what I'm telling myself, 
to be able to click Drake London

1864
02:01:41,060 --> 02:01:44,100
and if you get a deep enough 
discount, I think the talent is 

1865
02:01:44,540 --> 02:01:49,060
elite, Elite to where it could 
pay off in a huge way. 

1866
02:01:49,900 --> 02:01:53,020
So I just I pray that the market
overreacts aggressively. 

1867
02:01:53,500 --> 02:01:55,540
Yeah, I I just don't want the 
market to middle it. 

1868
02:01:55,540 --> 02:01:59,460
I don't want to be staring down 
like Sixth Round Drake London 

1869
02:01:59,460 --> 02:02:00,940
wondering if I'm supposed to 
click him. 

1870
02:02:00,940 --> 02:02:03,860
I want to be looking at like 9th
or 10th Round Drake London and 

1871
02:02:03,860 --> 02:02:05,820
and getting it in and feeling 
great about it. 

1872
02:02:06,740 --> 02:02:09,220
Or for him sitting in the 5th 
and I just don't. 

1873
02:02:09,640 --> 02:02:14,440
Do it sounds a little bit like 
you do you just at game 

1874
02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:18,600
negatively and and we talked 
about it with Ritter and but 

1875
02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:25,280
still at A at a cheaper price 
you're just as excited to to bet

1876
02:02:25,280 --> 02:02:30,680
on that 99% outcome. 
Yeah, I I I am. 

1877
02:02:30,880 --> 02:02:34,680
I I'm pretty sure that I lose a 
lot of the time on the bet. 

1878
02:02:34,840 --> 02:02:38,490
Listen, we martingale. 
Yeah, it's it's one of the bets 

1879
02:02:38,490 --> 02:02:41,970
where when it pays off, like 
that's why I'm making the bet, 

1880
02:02:41,970 --> 02:02:45,610
because when it pays off, it 
pays off in such a crazy way. 

1881
02:02:46,290 --> 02:02:49,890
Like there's there's an outcome 
where Drake London's a second 

1882
02:02:49,930 --> 02:02:53,170
round pick that season. 
You know, like Drake London goes

1883
02:02:53,170 --> 02:02:57,090
for 12110 touchdowns this 
season. 

1884
02:02:57,090 --> 02:02:59,450
Like it's in the range. 
It doesn't happen often. 

1885
02:02:59,450 --> 02:03:01,090
I don't. 
I don't think it's very likely. 

1886
02:03:01,660 --> 02:03:04,660
But that can happen for Drake 
London in a way where it can't 

1887
02:03:04,660 --> 02:03:07,660
happen for other guys in this 
quadrant, for example, like that

1888
02:03:07,660 --> 02:03:10,860
can't happen for Van Jefferson. 
That is not in the range like 

1889
02:03:10,980 --> 02:03:11,900
that. 
That can't happen. 

1890
02:03:11,900 --> 02:03:14,940
Like even Marques Sprout, who I 
think is a very good receiver 

1891
02:03:14,940 --> 02:03:18,740
like without a trade like that 
can't happen for Marques Sprout.

1892
02:03:19,060 --> 02:03:20,900
That offense won't score 10 
touchdowns. 

1893
02:03:21,100 --> 02:03:25,740
Totally. 
You know, like another another 

1894
02:03:25,740 --> 02:03:29,230
guy I wanted to bring up here. 
What? 

1895
02:03:29,230 --> 02:03:31,470
What do you think about George 
Pickens, who's also in this 

1896
02:03:31,470 --> 02:03:35,350
quadrant, you know, floating 
near teammate Alan Robinson, and

1897
02:03:35,350 --> 02:03:38,510
then you've got his other 
teammate Deonte, dealing with 

1898
02:03:38,510 --> 02:03:40,990
the hamstring. 
What do you how do you view 

1899
02:03:40,990 --> 02:03:45,910
George Pickens? 
Going forward and I think pick 

1900
02:03:45,910 --> 02:03:52,830
Pickens is is a hard one because
you do you do have the noise 

1901
02:03:52,830 --> 02:03:56,510
about and I, I, I I think we we 
talked about this before with 

1902
02:03:56,510 --> 02:03:58,630
Pickens that you have to the the
the. 

1903
02:03:59,060 --> 02:04:03,820
Offseason chatter that like oh 
this guy doesn't separate and 

1904
02:04:03,820 --> 02:04:07,540
then you get in and then his 
targets weren't actually not 

1905
02:04:07,540 --> 02:04:11,540
great that last year and then 
you get in week one and again 

1906
02:04:11,540 --> 02:04:23,700
target's not great and I think 
maybe just because he is, he has

1907
02:04:23,700 --> 02:04:27,660
been so good at at kind of jump 
balls that. 

1908
02:04:28,830 --> 02:04:32,630
You do wanna you do wanna be a 
little bit patient like 

1909
02:04:33,470 --> 02:04:37,470
definitely for me and it it's a 
it's a point into negative so 

1910
02:04:37,470 --> 02:04:44,190
like dropping them down slightly
and but it's like it's still in 

1911
02:04:44,190 --> 02:04:46,590
a sort of range it's close 
enough to the middle of the 

1912
02:04:46,590 --> 02:04:50,590
range like it's it's not that 
far from CD land for example and

1913
02:04:51,550 --> 02:04:57,190
where you can still see OK what 
if that's just the bottom of the

1914
02:04:57,190 --> 02:05:05,010
range. 
And and going forward if if if 

1915
02:05:05,770 --> 02:05:07,250
what's his name Pickett can pick
it up. 

1916
02:05:07,290 --> 02:05:11,410
Now granted I, I, I, I, I went 
on on on record of saying that 

1917
02:05:11,770 --> 02:05:16,450
I'm not too confident in that 
and pickings could be a good 

1918
02:05:16,450 --> 02:05:24,090
pick and but yeah I I I think I 
think you sort of need like you 

1919
02:05:24,090 --> 02:05:27,370
probably need a round, round and
a half sort of discount. 

1920
02:05:27,960 --> 02:05:34,920
And then on ADP and and given 
that and but I guess you do have

1921
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:40,080
a caveat that it's week one and 
that that could just be a true 

1922
02:05:40,080 --> 02:05:45,920
outlier for him. 
Yeah, I I wanted to Aaron in the

1923
02:05:45,920 --> 02:05:48,680
chat asked are we hoping Bateman
outlasts OBJ. 

1924
02:05:48,880 --> 02:05:51,680
He once seemed promising, but 
seems third fiddle. 

1925
02:05:52,640 --> 02:05:56,600
If you look at the target, OBJ 
was on the field a ton and 

1926
02:05:56,600 --> 02:05:59,630
Bateman was not. 
But OBJ didn't really earn a 

1927
02:05:59,630 --> 02:06:01,910
bunch of targets. 
I believe Bateman's going to be 

1928
02:06:01,910 --> 02:06:05,990
on a another chart here, right? 
Because he didn't get a ton of 

1929
02:06:05,990 --> 02:06:09,790
snaps. 
But I I do want to dovetail that

1930
02:06:09,790 --> 02:06:15,230
into their teammate Zay Flowers,
who if week one was any 

1931
02:06:15,230 --> 02:06:20,390
indication, Zay Flowers was 
grossly mispriced in drafts. 

1932
02:06:22,070 --> 02:06:25,310
Like I think the efficient Zay 
Flowers should have been going 

1933
02:06:26,290 --> 02:06:31,850
right around where like you know
late 445 term and he was not. 

1934
02:06:32,250 --> 02:06:35,770
So that's one where I'm pretty 
sure the market's gonna correct 

1935
02:06:35,770 --> 02:06:38,410
too hard. 
The market's gonna correct, you 

1936
02:06:38,450 --> 02:06:41,010
know, to the upside for him just
cuz he's a rookie. 

1937
02:06:41,010 --> 02:06:44,250
He's exciting and now we we're 
starting to see, yeah they wanna

1938
02:06:44,250 --> 02:06:48,410
use this guy but that was one 
where looking at the usage, I 

1939
02:06:48,410 --> 02:06:51,890
mean he's getting carries like 
they're they're manufacturing 

1940
02:06:51,890 --> 02:06:56,050
touches for him like right. 
And he he looked good, you know.

1941
02:06:56,930 --> 02:07:01,250
So that's an exciting one. 
Yeah I agree. 

1942
02:07:01,330 --> 02:07:06,370
And and and given them, given, 
that's a nice kind of segue to 

1943
02:07:06,370 --> 02:07:09,970
the next chart. 
And oh, there's, there's our 

1944
02:07:09,970 --> 02:07:12,850
chart breaker. 
There's Tyreke over 100% 

1945
02:07:12,850 --> 02:07:17,210
weighted targets for over. 
Yeah, I'll, I'll, I'll hail them

1946
02:07:17,370 --> 02:07:24,160
our our merciless overlord. 
So yeah, I think that this one 

1947
02:07:24,160 --> 02:07:28,320
you you get this one's like this
chart is sort of interesting in 

1948
02:07:28,320 --> 02:07:33,440
that you get these guys that are
are are very much starters and 

1949
02:07:34,080 --> 02:07:38,800
and then they are are are widely
efficient with their roots and 

1950
02:07:38,800 --> 02:07:42,160
you get those kind of four guy, 
yeah, four guys even including 

1951
02:07:42,760 --> 02:07:48,080
Nicole Collins honestly very 
efficient in terms of their 

1952
02:07:48,080 --> 02:07:51,560
target earning. 
And then you get you get a lot 

1953
02:07:51,560 --> 02:08:01,160
of other guys sort of bunched 
around and I think the most 

1954
02:08:01,160 --> 02:08:06,640
interesting ones to me are jail 
and waddle at very sort of 

1955
02:08:06,640 --> 02:08:09,880
average with his way to targets 
for rat run. 

1956
02:08:10,120 --> 02:08:13,320
Just do not expect that to 
continue into the rest of the 

1957
02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:17,520
year. 
And and then Elijah Murr. 

1958
02:08:18,280 --> 02:08:24,800
That, that that feels that feels
maybe maybe I'm wrong to be 

1959
02:08:24,800 --> 02:08:27,080
disappointed. 
It feels a little bit 

1960
02:08:27,080 --> 02:08:31,320
disappointed just because I 
thought that if he was getting 

1961
02:08:31,320 --> 02:08:35,880
this kind of root share that 
she'd be earning targets a 

1962
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,520
little better than that. 
But maybe that's just a kind of 

1963
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:41,240
a weak one thing. 
I think it might be a weak one 

1964
02:08:41,240 --> 02:08:43,640
thing and just a function of the
gate they were, you know? 

1965
02:08:44,800 --> 02:08:46,960
Yeah, I don't. 
I'm not ready to to write off 

1966
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:50,330
Elijah Moore yet. 
I also think that Jalen Waddell,

1967
02:08:50,330 --> 02:08:53,130
when we think about Jalen 
Waddell, you know him, him 

1968
02:08:53,130 --> 02:08:56,570
getting so many fewer weighted 
targets per route rather than 

1969
02:08:56,570 --> 02:08:59,730
we'd expect is a direct function
of Tyree just dominating the 

1970
02:08:59,730 --> 02:09:03,890
game, Right? 
Yeah, I've got a really gross 

1971
02:09:03,890 --> 02:09:06,050
hot take for you if you want to 
hear it. 

1972
02:09:07,090 --> 02:09:13,050
Yeah, it's it's that and Nico 
Collins, Robert Woods, CJ 

1973
02:09:13,050 --> 02:09:15,810
Stroud, Double Stack is going to
win a Millie Maker this season. 

1974
02:09:18,380 --> 02:09:19,300
I kinda. 
I don't. 

1975
02:09:19,820 --> 02:09:22,340
I mean, it feels like a hot 
take, but I don't know that it's

1976
02:09:22,540 --> 02:09:24,860
that crazy in my. 
Opinion, right? 

1977
02:09:25,220 --> 02:09:29,260
Well, you're talking about like 
low to middle salaries, right? 

1978
02:09:29,620 --> 02:09:32,620
I'm talking about they're super 
cheap and I just play the vomit 

1979
02:09:32,620 --> 02:09:38,060
stack and I end up jamming in 
the studs that I wanna be able 

1980
02:09:38,060 --> 02:09:41,420
to fit into one lineup and they 
do just enough, you know, Nico 

1981
02:09:41,420 --> 02:09:44,180
gets double digit targets again,
Robert Woods gets double digit 

1982
02:09:44,180 --> 02:09:46,860
targets, and I laugh my way to 
the bank. 

1983
02:09:46,860 --> 02:09:50,900
So yeah, we'll see. 
Yeah. 

1984
02:09:50,940 --> 02:09:55,700
And in order to, so I don't, one
thing that I normally look for 

1985
02:09:55,700 --> 02:10:00,500
in this chart is guys who who 
sort of jump off the page a 

1986
02:10:00,500 --> 02:10:07,860
little bit and are sort of 
unheralded and how do I say 

1987
02:10:07,900 --> 02:10:11,380
this? 
Demanding a higher root share, I

1988
02:10:11,380 --> 02:10:13,740
don't, I don't see a lot of that
here. 

1989
02:10:14,420 --> 02:10:18,820
A lot of the players I see here 
are just kind of like borderline

1990
02:10:18,820 --> 02:10:23,140
starter cardio club guys and 
very disappointing to see. 

1991
02:10:23,140 --> 02:10:24,300
Yeah, well not that 
disappointing. 

1992
02:10:24,300 --> 02:10:27,220
Chase Claypool and not earning 
targets. 

1993
02:10:27,220 --> 02:10:33,660
Josh Parmer, DPJ, Paris 
Campbell, Ques, Watkins, MVS, 

1994
02:10:34,220 --> 02:10:37,460
and they all seem like very 
those, kind of like. 

1995
02:10:37,810 --> 02:10:42,530
Field stretcher. 
Borderline starter, but not not 

1996
02:10:42,530 --> 02:10:47,130
important pieces of their 
offenses and that that's kind of

1997
02:10:47,130 --> 02:10:50,690
what that says to me. 
The two that I'm willing to to 

1998
02:10:50,690 --> 02:10:54,610
say might might not be 
accurately represented. 

1999
02:10:54,610 --> 02:10:58,410
And just in the Week 1 sample 
that we have here is I think 

2000
02:10:58,410 --> 02:11:01,330
that Elijah Moore that we 
touched on earlier and Brandon 

2001
02:11:01,530 --> 02:11:06,120
yeah both look like guys where 
given given the game script that

2002
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:08,520
they were in neither team really
needed to pass a ton. 

2003
02:11:08,520 --> 02:11:13,520
Neither you know and I think 
Elijah Moore is going to be 

2004
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:18,680
Elijah Moore is kind of like the
Zay flowers role of the Browns. 

2005
02:11:18,720 --> 02:11:20,640
I think he definitely could fill
that niche. 

2006
02:11:20,920 --> 02:11:26,320
He might not do it in the way 
that we saw Zay do it one where 

2007
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:30,480
he's just going to get so much. 
But I think that maybe he's a 

2008
02:11:30,480 --> 02:11:34,490
zay flowers light and then I 
think Brandon Cooks just in the 

2009
02:11:34,810 --> 02:11:38,330
the little bit that we saw where
he got targets for the Cowboys 

2010
02:11:38,330 --> 02:11:40,770
he did have. 
I'm not sure if you watched the 

2011
02:11:40,770 --> 02:11:45,090
whole game he had he had a 
really deep ball thrown to him 

2012
02:11:45,090 --> 02:11:47,130
where he drew a past 
interference call. 

2013
02:11:47,690 --> 02:11:51,770
I I mean that's like, yeah, the 
Cooks special that that also is 

2014
02:11:51,770 --> 02:11:55,050
like the Michael Gallup special 
is just run run straight and 

2015
02:11:55,050 --> 02:11:56,730
like pray that we get past 
interference. 

2016
02:11:58,690 --> 02:12:01,470
I am. 
I don't think Brandon Cooks is 

2017
02:12:01,470 --> 02:12:05,310
in the the cardio club section 
of this and I agree with you. 

2018
02:12:05,310 --> 02:12:07,750
Where he's Ohh, you're talking 
about cardio club guys, My 

2019
02:12:07,750 --> 02:12:11,870
apologies. 
Yeah and I I think he's 

2020
02:12:11,870 --> 02:12:15,390
definitely in the range where 
you know it's close enough to 

2021
02:12:15,390 --> 02:12:20,070
good where as the small sample 
size where where you could see 

2022
02:12:20,670 --> 02:12:23,710
you could still that be. 
It's quite an excellent season 

2023
02:12:23,710 --> 02:12:26,710
for him. 
Yeah, but yeah, going back to 

2024
02:12:26,710 --> 02:12:28,790
your your cardio club guys that 
you were dogging. 

2025
02:12:28,790 --> 02:12:31,590
Yeah, I I agree with you. 
None of these are ones where I'm

2026
02:12:32,430 --> 02:12:35,710
super excited and and where I 
see them earning a lot more. 

2027
02:12:35,710 --> 02:12:38,470
I think these are all right, 
gonna they're they're kind of 

2028
02:12:38,470 --> 02:12:41,870
dusted. 
Yeah, I I I should on Mvs in the

2029
02:12:41,870 --> 02:12:44,790
season. 
I I I sort of took stops at Quez

2030
02:12:44,950 --> 02:12:47,310
or IP. 
I wrote an article and took 

2031
02:12:47,310 --> 02:12:51,470
stops on Chase Claypool or IP 
and not not very many people 

2032
02:12:51,470 --> 02:12:55,120
taking Josh Palmer. 
And so he he was kind of already

2033
02:12:55,120 --> 02:13:02,880
RIP and and so if it's OK with 
you just because we're into two 

2034
02:13:02,880 --> 02:13:05,440
hours, yeah, we're we're past 
the two hour mark. 

2035
02:13:05,520 --> 02:13:08,920
Yeah this chart has some really 
interesting guys you want to 

2036
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:13,240
talk about guys that are going 
to earn their way to more, more 

2037
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:16,800
routes. 
I mean Rashid, Shaheed, Jordan, 

2038
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:22,230
Addison and I think the Romeo 
dubs is burying the lead for 

2039
02:13:22,230 --> 02:13:28,070
Jayden Reed in my opinion. 
I think that I like a lot of 

2040
02:13:28,070 --> 02:13:33,030
these guys that are in this 
quadrant, even Calvin Austin. 

2041
02:13:33,470 --> 02:13:36,150
I mean I got a lot of Calvin 
Austin from basketball drafts. 

2042
02:13:36,150 --> 02:13:40,790
But I the Deontay Johnson injury
opens the door for Calvin Austin

2043
02:13:40,790 --> 02:13:43,470
way earlier than I anticipated 
it would be open. 

2044
02:13:44,070 --> 02:13:47,990
And when you consider the fact 
that now we're before, I was 

2045
02:13:47,990 --> 02:13:51,110
thinking the path to Calvin 
Austin playing was he's gonna 

2046
02:13:51,110 --> 02:13:54,590
need to beat out Alan Robinson. 
And it's not hard to beat him 

2047
02:13:54,590 --> 02:13:56,350
out. 
But you know what makes it way 

2048
02:13:56,350 --> 02:13:58,790
easier? 
When Deontay Johnson is back and

2049
02:13:58,790 --> 02:14:01,870
healthy? 
For Calvin Austin to usurp Alan 

2050
02:14:01,870 --> 02:14:05,670
Robinson for that third wide 
receiver role is game team. 

2051
02:14:05,670 --> 02:14:08,510
See them both on the field at 
the same time? 

2052
02:14:09,460 --> 02:14:14,140
Like getting to see Alan 
Robinson just trot his ass out 

2053
02:14:14,140 --> 02:14:17,420
there and watch Calvin Austin 
actually display some legit 

2054
02:14:17,420 --> 02:14:20,180
burner speed and maybe deliver a
couple splash plays. 

2055
02:14:20,180 --> 02:14:22,340
Like, I think he's gonna be hard
to keep off the field. 

2056
02:14:23,900 --> 02:14:32,020
And yeah I I agree with that and
I think with Jaden Reed Dobbs 

2057
02:14:32,340 --> 02:14:36,820
and and I don't think they're 
true like backup guys I I. 

2058
02:14:37,360 --> 02:14:39,680
I think that was one where that 
probably was one where they were

2059
02:14:39,720 --> 02:14:44,440
quite a good bit ahead and that 
does feel quite encouraging for 

2060
02:14:44,440 --> 02:14:50,640
the for the Packers offense and 
I'm I'm not I think I'm I'm I'm 

2061
02:14:50,960 --> 02:14:56,400
absolutely saying that the the 
JSN stuff weak one noise and 

2062
02:14:58,720 --> 02:15:03,040
when I'm more than happy to bury
Skymore it's actually quite 

2063
02:15:03,040 --> 02:15:06,360
interesting that his his root 
share was so low. 

2064
02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:11,840
And his weighted targets per 
route run is so low and that one

2065
02:15:11,840 --> 02:15:18,960
feels like he's he's that that 
that's not good I'm I'm good to 

2066
02:15:19,000 --> 02:15:23,640
I'm good to move on from Sky 
Moore I I think that he's we we 

2067
02:15:24,040 --> 02:15:25,920
the Sky Moore experiment is 
done. 

2068
02:15:26,720 --> 02:15:30,880
Is he a cut in a redraft and and
and sort of like undraftable in 

2069
02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:35,860
a resurrection? 
He's oh God I I guess it depends

2070
02:15:35,860 --> 02:15:38,980
and redraft. 
I I really don't want to cut him

2071
02:15:38,980 --> 02:15:42,860
just cuz no one really no one on
that offense has asserted 

2072
02:15:42,860 --> 02:15:45,900
themselves as like the guy. 
So I probably just want to have 

2073
02:15:45,900 --> 02:15:49,580
it as a I want the lottery 
ticket for, right? 

2074
02:15:50,020 --> 02:15:52,500
Even one more week? 
Yeah. 

2075
02:15:53,780 --> 02:15:55,780
Oh, man. 
You know who I mean? 

2076
02:15:55,780 --> 02:15:57,620
I mentioned this earlier. 
Holy shit. 

2077
02:15:57,620 --> 02:16:03,300
Christian Kirk is gonna be bad. 
I mean not like it's not gonna 

2078
02:16:03,300 --> 02:16:06,060
be the same week, one every week
for Christian Kirk. 

2079
02:16:06,100 --> 02:16:10,540
My I should have been eating my 
own cooking on this cuz I kept 

2080
02:16:10,540 --> 02:16:14,220
saying the Calvin Ridley price 
is untenable because the way 

2081
02:16:14,220 --> 02:16:18,250
this offense is is like it's 
consolidated between it's four 

2082
02:16:18,250 --> 02:16:21,210
guys, it's Evan Ingram, it's 
Calvin Ridley, it's a Jones, 

2083
02:16:21,210 --> 02:16:23,810
it's Christian Kirk. 
It's going to be those four and 

2084
02:16:23,810 --> 02:16:26,850
it's it's going to be kind of 
like the Niners offense and that

2085
02:16:26,850 --> 02:16:29,450
you don't know who's going to 
who's going to be the whack A 

2086
02:16:29,450 --> 02:16:31,450
mole popup receiver in the given
week. 

2087
02:16:32,209 --> 02:16:37,290
I didn't anticipate it being so 
bad for Christian Kirk though. 

2088
02:16:37,330 --> 02:16:40,650
Like I I really, I thought that 
Zay Jones was a good click at 

2089
02:16:40,650 --> 02:16:43,250
ADP and I started course 
correcting and taking a lot more

2090
02:16:43,250 --> 02:16:46,959
of him near the end of the 
summer as I let that take kind 

2091
02:16:46,959 --> 02:16:49,080
of cooking the the brain oven 
for a little bit. 

2092
02:16:49,080 --> 02:16:53,799
But I didn't correct Kirk was 
falling at the same time and I 

2093
02:16:53,879 --> 02:16:56,959
and you know the Calvin Ridley 
team had gotten crazy. 

2094
02:16:57,240 --> 02:16:59,120
It's like cool. 
I'll just I'll get both 

2095
02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:02,719
Christian Kirk and Zay Jones and
one of these has to be right. 

2096
02:17:03,080 --> 02:17:06,480
Well the cheaper ones looking 
more right right now and the 

2097
02:17:06,480 --> 02:17:09,639
prices on Christian Kirk are are
looking bad. 

2098
02:17:09,719 --> 02:17:12,160
So that's what I'm kind of 
scared of. 

2099
02:17:13,400 --> 02:17:14,920
Yeah. 
I I agree. 

2100
02:17:14,920 --> 02:17:16,879
And definitely scary 
performance. 

2101
02:17:17,400 --> 02:17:26,080
And did we talk about Bateman 
and just in connection with, Oh 

2102
02:17:26,080 --> 02:17:30,520
yeah, there he is, yeah, we we 
mentioned him briefly last on 

2103
02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:32,280
the last chart where he wasn't 
there. 

2104
02:17:32,280 --> 02:17:37,200
But yeah, I think that Bateman 
is, you talked about guys that 

2105
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:39,889
are gonna earn their way into 
more targets. 

2106
02:17:40,049 --> 02:17:42,490
I think that he's one of those 
guys. 

2107
02:17:42,490 --> 02:17:48,370
He only had what he's in the 30s
for snaps, right, 30% snaps or 

2108
02:17:48,370 --> 02:17:50,450
something like that and he ended
up with three targets. 

2109
02:17:50,450 --> 02:17:55,330
So, and I think Bateman is good.
I believe that Bateman is is a 

2110
02:17:55,370 --> 02:18:00,290
good NFL receiver. 
He hasn't been healthy very much

2111
02:18:00,290 --> 02:18:04,010
so it's hard to to know but 
we've got very limited sample 

2112
02:18:04,010 --> 02:18:08,770
where we've seen him deliver 
explosive plays and he he's you 

2113
02:18:08,809 --> 02:18:11,889
know he's not able to 
participate a ton in the 

2114
02:18:11,889 --> 02:18:15,570
offseason program. 
So I the story I'm telling 

2115
02:18:15,570 --> 02:18:19,090
myself is that this is just him 
getting worked in to a it's a 

2116
02:18:19,090 --> 02:18:21,650
brand new offensive system. 
You know, you're not going to 

2117
02:18:21,650 --> 02:18:24,570
throw this guy out here for 100%
of snaps week one. 

2118
02:18:25,090 --> 02:18:29,690
And I think what we see is Odell
Beckham's snaps decrease and 

2119
02:18:29,690 --> 02:18:33,719
Bateman's increase. 
And because I think, I mean, we 

2120
02:18:33,719 --> 02:18:37,480
saw Beckham not earn many 
targets because Bateman is going

2121
02:18:37,480 --> 02:18:39,280
to be more of a target earner 
than Beckham. 

2122
02:18:39,680 --> 02:18:43,080
I think we see that start to 
come out of that zay flowers 

2123
02:18:43,480 --> 02:18:49,160
share just just a little bit. 
And when it's fine I think this 

2124
02:18:49,160 --> 02:18:54,480
is a this is an OK to like it's 
it's not that the target sort of

2125
02:18:54,480 --> 02:18:59,480
target per run that you're 
you're looking for and but it's 

2126
02:18:59,520 --> 02:19:02,730
it's fine. 
And then if you look at stuff 

2127
02:19:02,730 --> 02:19:06,610
like he did have two yards per 
route run which is pretty good 

2128
02:19:07,290 --> 02:19:13,969
and and then is like you said he
he he he got tree targets on 

2129
02:19:13,969 --> 02:19:18,410
like a a smallish root chair 
definitely feels like something 

2130
02:19:18,410 --> 02:19:22,290
where maybe the maybe the injury
is something where they're 

2131
02:19:22,370 --> 02:19:27,809
they're bringing them back into 
the offense and but it it it 

2132
02:19:27,889 --> 02:19:30,309
sort of. 
Especially at the price you were

2133
02:19:30,309 --> 02:19:34,629
getting sort of encouraging in 
terms of like him returning to 

2134
02:19:34,629 --> 02:19:37,270
injury and and returning to the 
player that you were getting 

2135
02:19:37,270 --> 02:19:39,590
before. 
Yeah. 

2136
02:19:39,670 --> 02:19:42,430
Hey, I I had one more that I 
have a question for you on. 

2137
02:19:42,950 --> 02:19:45,950
OK, what are what are we doing 
with Braxton Barrios? 

2138
02:19:46,350 --> 02:19:51,790
Cuz he was he was more involved 
than I anticipated him being 

2139
02:19:51,790 --> 02:19:53,110
involved. 
I thought he'd be involved. 

2140
02:19:53,110 --> 02:19:58,360
I did draft a tiny bit of 
Braxton Barrios, but what are 

2141
02:19:58,360 --> 02:20:03,800
what are we doing there? 
And I don't think I'm ever 

2142
02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:08,920
starting them in in in in 
redraft and like my team is 

2143
02:20:08,920 --> 02:20:16,880
cooked if I'm starting them. 
And I think the the news is that

2144
02:20:17,280 --> 02:20:21,440
he's consolidated the third wide
receiver role better than 

2145
02:20:21,480 --> 02:20:24,920
anybody did last year which is 
quite good. 

2146
02:20:25,760 --> 02:20:31,850
And I think that you still have 
this problem if if you're trying

2147
02:20:31,850 --> 02:20:36,530
to get your turd wide receiver 
where the Dolphins turd wide 

2148
02:20:36,530 --> 02:20:40,290
receiver where Tyree Kill and 
Joel Waddell are just going to 

2149
02:20:40,290 --> 02:20:45,450
command so many targets that it 
does make it hard for Braxton 

2150
02:20:45,450 --> 02:20:48,890
Barrios maybe he's maybe brack 
Barrios is like a contingent 

2151
02:20:48,890 --> 02:20:52,690
play like a really like limited 
contingent play. 

2152
02:20:53,370 --> 02:21:00,260
And I think that I'm probably 
it's probably one of those kind 

2153
02:21:00,260 --> 02:21:04,260
of late round guys where now 
that I know who the third 

2154
02:21:04,260 --> 02:21:10,140
receiver is when I have Tua I'm 
I'm happy to click him late and 

2155
02:21:11,020 --> 02:21:14,860
I think that he's probably like 
if if he's like the minimum 

2156
02:21:14,980 --> 02:21:20,980
price for DraftKings I'm happy 
to put him in a tua stack and 

2157
02:21:21,100 --> 02:21:27,950
but not a I'm I'm not I'm not 
buying that he's going to be 

2158
02:21:27,950 --> 02:21:33,230
like a like a top what turdy 
wide receiver or any like it. 

2159
02:21:34,510 --> 02:21:37,470
Yeah, and I I agree with that 
assessment. 

2160
02:21:37,470 --> 02:21:42,710
I if you told me that I was 
allowed to play Braxton Barrios 

2161
02:21:42,710 --> 02:21:46,070
plus River Cray Craft in one 
slot and get the points for 

2162
02:21:46,070 --> 02:21:47,750
them, then I'm really 
interested. 

2163
02:21:49,310 --> 02:21:53,430
But right, Yeah, I think. 
I think between the two of them,

2164
02:21:53,590 --> 02:21:55,880
it's not. 
They're not gonna consolidate 

2165
02:21:55,880 --> 02:22:01,600
enough of a role in in either 
one to be super interested, but 

2166
02:22:02,000 --> 02:22:04,480
I just, I thought it was was 
worth talking about. 

2167
02:22:04,920 --> 02:22:07,360
Yeah, because that that third 
wide receiver spot had been 

2168
02:22:07,360 --> 02:22:09,960
murky and that is an offense 
that is exciting. 

2169
02:22:11,200 --> 02:22:15,720
Yeah. 
And so yeah, Barry LC got 29 

2170
02:22:15,720 --> 02:22:24,510
routes and River Crack Craft or 
what is his name Craycraft, 

2171
02:22:24,830 --> 02:22:27,590
Craycraft that's how you say it 
was 16. 

2172
02:22:28,110 --> 02:22:32,190
And so yeah, I I I honestly, I 
thought when I'd seen him in the

2173
02:22:32,430 --> 02:22:36,710
in the kind of like 60 to 60 I 
thought if I'm reading this 

2174
02:22:36,710 --> 02:22:41,750
right, bury us in the 60 to 65% 
and fruit share. 

2175
02:22:41,750 --> 02:22:45,790
I'm like that that seems 
somewhat consolidated and and 

2176
02:22:45,790 --> 02:22:50,300
and feels more consolidated than
it was last year but you're 

2177
02:22:50,300 --> 02:22:54,140
right it's still it's still not 
at it's still not high enough 

2178
02:22:54,500 --> 02:22:58,300
where like it's it's not you're 
not talking about Tyler Boyd at 

2179
02:22:58,300 --> 02:22:58,740
third. 
Yeah right. 

2180
02:22:58,740 --> 02:23:02,060
Reviewer consolidation. 
And the two receivers ahead of 

2181
02:23:02,060 --> 02:23:05,420
him are such strong target 
earners that yeah, you you 

2182
02:23:05,420 --> 02:23:09,140
really, you need it to be 
Braxton Barrios plus River Cray 

2183
02:23:09,140 --> 02:23:13,100
craft form Voltron to be the 
Dolphins, right Receiver three. 

2184
02:23:14,100 --> 02:23:21,140
So and let's say at 0 ownership 
and the slate sets up for you 

2185
02:23:21,180 --> 02:23:24,820
you you have Maxim you have high
salary guys that you wanna fit 

2186
02:23:24,820 --> 02:23:29,260
in you really like and you got 
your two stack I I I assume 

2187
02:23:29,260 --> 02:23:33,380
that's is that something where 
even with low ownership that 

2188
02:23:33,380 --> 02:23:34,940
you're that you're interested in
in. 

2189
02:23:35,020 --> 02:23:39,540
I'd much rather play it through 
Durham Smythe, right. 

2190
02:23:39,660 --> 02:23:43,620
I mean, assuming that yeah, his 
his price is reasonable, but 

2191
02:23:43,620 --> 02:23:45,770
like, I wouldn't. 
I wouldn't X them out. 

2192
02:23:45,850 --> 02:23:49,610
If I wanted to have a lot of Tua
stacks, you know I I'd make 

2193
02:23:49,690 --> 02:23:51,930
sense. 
Just that just no, I I think 

2194
02:23:51,930 --> 02:23:55,130
that makes sense where like it's
still not consolidated enough 

2195
02:23:55,690 --> 02:23:59,770
even at even at low prices where
you're you're running to you're 

2196
02:23:59,770 --> 02:24:02,330
running to play it. 
I I think that's a fair point. 

2197
02:24:03,250 --> 02:24:06,570
Yeah, very, very. 
I know we briefly touched on 

2198
02:24:06,570 --> 02:24:08,810
Jordan Addison and we don't need
to spend a ton of time on him 

2199
02:24:08,810 --> 02:24:10,890
because we're coming up on 2 1/2
hours, but. 

2200
02:24:12,120 --> 02:24:14,080
Jordan Addison's going to smash 
guys. 

2201
02:24:15,320 --> 02:24:19,400
If you if you can still acquire 
Jordan Addison in a in a redraft

2202
02:24:19,400 --> 02:24:22,720
league, go and get him. 
That offense is going to pass 

2203
02:24:22,720 --> 02:24:26,560
the ball so freaking much. 
I mean what they threw 7075% of 

2204
02:24:26,560 --> 02:24:30,400
their plays or pass plays and we
we just talked about how bad 

2205
02:24:31,120 --> 02:24:34,600
Alexander Madison is like and 
their defense is atrocious. 

2206
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:38,760
Like Baker, Mayfield went out 
and beat them, you know. 

2207
02:24:39,380 --> 02:24:42,060
And I I do like Baker. 
But yeah, Jordan Addison is 

2208
02:24:42,060 --> 02:24:48,140
going to be insane. 
That guy's he's good, definitely

2209
02:24:48,140 --> 02:24:51,500
agree pretty bullish for Addison
there. 

2210
02:24:53,260 --> 02:24:59,460
So I think I think for our all 
all one of our listeners who's 

2211
02:24:59,740 --> 02:25:05,260
who's left, I appreciate you 
taking the the ride with us and 

2212
02:25:05,300 --> 02:25:08,020
I I think I think we we finish 
it there right. 

2213
02:25:08,680 --> 02:25:11,000
Yeah, I think it's time to land 
the plane. 

2214
02:25:11,280 --> 02:25:16,920
So thanks everybody. 
It was a very fun inaugural stat

2215
02:25:16,920 --> 02:25:21,320
chasing episode for me. 
And yeah, I'm looking forward to

2216
02:25:21,320 --> 02:25:25,200
seeing you guys next week on 
Tuesday with some more charts. 

2217
02:25:27,400 --> 02:25:29,920
Yeah, yeah. 
Really enjoyed doing the show at

2218
02:25:31,100 --> 02:25:33,340
Wow. 
We have two I I I underplayed 

2219
02:25:33,340 --> 02:25:35,540
it. 
Double, double the amount of 

2220
02:25:35,540 --> 02:25:37,980
listeners we thought, oh, let's 
go, we got 3. 

2221
02:25:38,020 --> 02:25:43,020
Triple and appreciate it. 
Wow. 

2222
02:25:43,300 --> 02:25:48,460
Appreciate you guys staying on 
with us and really enjoyed doing

2223
02:25:48,460 --> 02:25:50,460
the show. 
Really looking forward to seeing

2224
02:25:50,460 --> 02:25:54,500
the next week. 
Double the sample size and we'll

2225
02:25:54,500 --> 02:25:55,060
see you next week.