Morning from Balmy Buffalo. I'm Mike.
Show temperatures here late April, well into the 70s already
today. Best ball summer indeed.
We've been chastised for not getting to the topic we're
promoting in the thumbnail today.
RJ Harvey, Jalen McMillan, risers and fallers.
I don't know how we avoid it. I think we're going to make that
work today. From the West Coast, Pat
Kerning, Jacob Sanderson. From the heartland, Davis
Maddock. Let's go post draft ADP chasing
April 29th, 2025. In Underdog Best Ball, ADP is
set by two separate yet equally important groups.
Streamers that set the market and the slappies that chase it.
These are their stories. So Pat, so to speak.
Where's the green dot? He he has the green dot made us
use that term today, which means that Pat puts us on the air.
Old school I, I, I thought of when I heard that, who would we
all be on a defense? Here's my here's my take.
So Pat wears the green dot. He's the he's the Mike
linebacker. He has to be calls the plays.
Davis is the small but scrappy, feisty dog in him corner.
You know he's the. I'm I'm the 7th corner that only
plays when someone else gets hurt.
I'm there to I'm there to be a punt gunner.
Oh man, you're on. I'm.
You're on the field in.
The corner man. Jacob, I think is our, is our
lanky edge rusher. You know, he's our Greg
Rousseau. For.
Better and I think I'm your run stuffer.
Those are the. You're the.
You're the nose guard.
Right, I can play well into my 30s.
I can play well into my 30s. You know, I'm just going to sort
of take up space and you guys are going to you're.
I think we could drop, I think we could drop Jacob back into
coverage sometimes. It's got a good understanding
of, yeah. I'm versatile, yeah.
He's versatile. The Bills had Mario Williams in
2014. You know, he was dominant.
Rex Ryan shows up and he's like, I'm going to want you to play in
coverage sometimes. Like I quit.
Mario just decided I I'm just going to quit football instead.
I'm. He quit at halftime like Vontae
or. No, not that bad.
He just sort of played. He he played quit.
I mean, he he was on the field, but he was just like not the
same player anymore. Live quit.
That's what he did. Yeah.
Dare I risk it? Before we get to everything, can
we talk about Shudder Sanders like I know everybody did.
The dust has settled. It's so interesting though.
I mean, it really was an all time thing that was happening
last weekend. A guy who was once like 1A1B in
this draft goes in the fifth round to a team that drafted
somebody way worse. Earlier.
Way worse earlier. And way better.
Just probably too small to play in the NFL.
Yeah, that's the thing about Dylan.
Gabriel is like I would if he was 3 inches taller.
I would take him off your door in a heartbeat.
Like he wouldn't even be close. Like, he was a way better
college quarterback, right? Like.
That's not even. Controversial to say like he was
an infinitely better college quarterback.
I think. We can't play in the NFL.
Peter Strager backdoored into having the correct take about
all this. He said this on a podcast like a
month ago. I read a transcript of it.
But basically the TLDR is everyone in media knows Dion and
likes Dion, has worked with Dion NFL Network, they all they all
like him. No one wanted to be the first
person put Chadur down. No one wanted to be the first
person to put out a mock no Chadur in the first round.
And the way we consume draft coverage, no one actually knows
right? I don't know anything about
these guys. You don't you know, we got a
report that the Browns Jaguars trade was in place since April
7th never leaked out of the building.
That just shows how little we know.
Think the real answer is he probably is like a third round
Malik Willis style talent. The interviews were really bad.
And this is the, you know, what's funny is that the the
analogy is Tebow where it's like, sure, Tebow, if you could
have Tim Tebow in your organization as your third
quarterback, your Taysom Hill or whatever.
And he wasn't Tim Tebow and no one cared.
And he was just if he was Chris Streveller, you'd love to have
him. You'd you'd love to have him in
the building, but it's just not the way it works.
It's a distraction. It's annoying.
We're going to, I mean, this is going to, this is going to
happen all offseason, which the, you know, the number one things
to fancy is going to be asked about at every press conference.
Is his. Freaking quarterback 5 is is
going to be the thing he spends the most time discussing with
Cleveland media, I mean. I watched that press conference.
I was curious to see how how that would go after day three.
And it was it was all shudor questions.
It was the media was calling it a blockbuster pick and they were
like, we do not consider this a blockbuster pick.
We took the quarterback in the fifth round like that's not
block, but like they were, they were clearly hoping that the
fifth round capital would kind of mute some of the the noise
around this. It won't.
Entirely. It will a little, though.
I mean, you know, Chador as a second round pick will come with
more of a circus than he will as a fifth round.
He's still going to come with a circus, but.
Yeah, I mean. I think he was never like
clearly he was never a first rounder, but I don't think it
was that he was always a fifth rounder.
I think he he thought he was like a top five pick.
They literally said we have a list.
We have a list of two. We'll let you know if you're on
the list. There's a list of teams We're
not down to play for every team. And then later they were like
pretty much everyone's on the list.
But but like they came in with an attitude of like this.
You know, we're going to kind of use the leverage that we have to
help dictate where he goes. You know, like like Eli Manning,
you know, force on his way to the giants or whatever.
And I just I think that, you know, we know that's going to
rub them like super the wrong way.
So that to me, to me, he's got to be like a second third round
talent. I mean, the media had him as
kind of, you know, probably like in the 20s or the 30s, but they
had Ward to start in like the teens and they had Dart usually
behind Chidor. So from a talent perspective, I
don't buy that he was a day free guy.
I mean, this has to be some of the other stuff.
Pat, I think your mic input is wrong by the way, OK.
Thank you. Or maybe you're just not
speaking into it. I think if you just put Shidor
in Garrett Nussmayer's body or whatever, I think A-Team
probably takes him in the second round.
I would just just off the accuracy, just off, just off the
ability that he is so, so accurate.
But that is just a willful, willful ignorance of the
situation because that is just not the way it works.
Like you know, it is what it is. Yeah, Yeah.
I mean, I agree with pretty much everything you guys are saying.
I mean, I was pretty vocal that I thought he sucked as a
quarterback prospect. I think that was relative to
where he was projected to go. So I thought he had no business
being a first round prospect, but I, yeah, I mean, I wanted
the Colts to take him on Day 2. So I I thought he was like worth
a shot from that perspective for sure.
Don't we think they should have? Like it's kind of crazy that
they didn't. No, I, I do, I was, I was like
completely losing my mind all over the timeline for.
I'm on stuff in their garage, right?
Now you know what I actually. Wanted them to take.
I mean I wanted them to take mill row even more.
Ballard should be fired. Ballard should literally be
fired for not. Well, yeah.
I mean I. Yeah, give it, of course, give
it, give it six months. I just, I think, I think The
Jets, I think the Colts, I think the Browns, I think all these
front offices I don't give AI actually don't really care about
about sure, I think they should all be given their walking
papers for not taking mill row. Yeah, I mean, they they, they
won't be. But I agree it was it was like a
a really dumb bet. They had the chance to take
Milro or Chader and they they were like, what if we took the
194th player on the big board who plays like he'll be our
sixth string corner? It's just clear the NFL does not
like the NFL does not think probabilistically about the
quarterback position. No, you know, like I feel like.
Fantasy do YouTube actually. Fantasy industry is actually
YouTube commenters do not think probabilistically.
No, they that's that's. The YouTube commenters that have
been in my kitchen about my chador takes for months like
hell half no fury man like you guys.
You guys don't, don't show your. Face man, you could, that's the
other, but I honestly think that played into it.
You you're talking about Dion and how, you know, that was an
interesting point. I hadn't considered that, but I,
you know, even doing fantasy shows, I know that if you talk
about your door, you're going to get a lot of hate if you're not
positive about this prospect. Oh, for sure.
Yeah. I wonder how much that factored
in honestly that like. I think it factored in a lot.
And it becomes, it becomes a
reinforcing thing like once a few people that probably have a
pretty negative end opinion of shit or don't share their
opinion, then you start to be like, like, I would say like I,
I let it fly a little bit more on YouTube shows.
But like, at the risk of looking ridiculous, like I would say I
was far more cautious in my like written write up of what I
thought should have was the prospect that I was like on this
program, for instance, where it's like, well, like if he goes
the first round, like I like I, I should have just written.
There's no way in hell this guy should ever be drafted the first
round. But like I felt like I played
way more with kid gloves talking about Shudder than I did about
like Tyler Shug where I was like, this is ridiculous.
So it's like a level of like, I think it's just you watch
something and then even if you come to an opinion, if no one
else is, is like as stringent in their opinion or at least
willing to be, then you kind of like you're like, maybe I'm the
one that's that's wrong. So I'm going to be more
cautious. But yeah, I think the NFL is
something probabilistly about quarterbacks.
They they sort guys and like realistically every NFL team
should be viewing these guys as like a range of outcomes where
like a percentage chance at the time they're like an all pro and
a percentage chance at the time they're a mid level franchise.
Quarterback at the grade they give them, they give these guys
grades and then I think they're like, that's what it is, you
know, to an extent. Exactly, you know, and it's
like. Well, we're not.
Going to take a as a range. Third string quarterback.
We don't need one of those. It really, it really is like.
This guy's a franchise quarterback or this guy's not,
but once you're in the knot bucket, they don't care because
they're like, well. Once you're in the once you're
in the yes bucket, they'll be like the Titans wouldn't trade
off. It's like he's a franchise
quarterback. We're going to take like a
million first for him. We'd rather have a franchise
quarterback. I think exactly.
I think the point about the Colts and first of all, Jacob,
you mentioned it, the Colts drafting instead 1/6 string
corner. Davis Maddock, welcome to the
Indianapolis Colts. I mean that that happened fast,
but congratulations on that. It it.
Really is the point about the Browns press conference is
almost the whole thing. Does Shane Steik, and he's got
so much in his garage to deal with already.
Does he need a new, you know, load of dirt or something like
this? He gets those same questions.
They can't handle that Like they they don't know what they have.
I I think Stefanski can. He's two time coach of the year.
He's got his veteran, he's got his mid and he's got now 2
rookies. I don't know, I kind of trust
that and it probably won't work, but.
It's not gonna. Work I it probably won't work,
but but the the point is that you should still make the bet,
right? I mean, even though it probably
won't work, you should still make the bet.
I I have no problem with what the Browns did.
I mean I guess I have a problem with taking Dilton Gabriel
first. But like All in all, if I have a
problem with the Browns drafts, if they took 2 fucking running
backs, I have no problem with the Browns taking 2
quarterbacks. That is like, I agree, should
do. You know, The funny thing is
about the draft, though, because I was listening to, I forget who
I was listening to, but they're talking about how like teams, so
teams do all the work on the court.
So which teams, it might have been brutal.
It's like which teams did all the work on the quarterback?
He's like the Browns did. The Browns did all the work, you
know, all the interviews and they, they, they met with all
these guys a bunch of times. So when it comes back around on
the 5th, they've already made, they've already taken their bet
with with Gabriel, but they definitely had Shadour on their
board and he had to be the top guy probably by a decent margin.
So they go ahead and take him. But the problem is, you know,
you're thinking like, oh, right, a bunch of teams like never did
the work on the quarterbacks because they didn't expect him
to be there because he wasn't a day three prospect.
He was like a day 2 prospect who falls to day three.
So then you get to day three and there's a bunch of teams who
like literally don't have them on their board.
And when you know, they're like, we trust our board, we go by our
board. They're like, they're like,
what's Shidor doing here? Where does he fit?
Like they did never prepped. Like, like probably like 2/3 of
the teams in the league were like Shidor.
I don't know, let's just take the next guy on our board.
I like I like that the Browns made it their last pick, even
though it's early in the fifth round, too.
Like we're all exhausted. Let's just do this and get out
of here. You know, the guy in your
fantasy draft who was like, I don't care, just auto for me.
I'm done. I'm too tired, It's too late.
The bounce kind of had that that look, too.
I wonder when they decided, I mean when they picked Gabriel
did they have this this thought in?
Mind Jimmy Haslam gave them a call and they're saying Sanders.
Well, that was maybe late Friday night then or very late Friday
night when that call might have been placed and.
So you're saying this is the last pick of the draft show, but
this might be the last pick of the regime.
I might if I never pick again. You had Andrew.
Barry and Kevin Stefanski, like I'm thinking like in Madden,
when they pan out to the crowd like Madden, like 2007 and you
get the little AI guys doing like these weird claps.
That was like what Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski were doing
after they clapped from the Shiner pick.
It's like we are robotically. Clapping for our.
Selection it did look like that. It did look like that in the
Browns room, the rooms, the rooms being different was kind
of a fun thing, always just a fun thing with the draft.
Like there's the Big Bear hug teams.
The Lions are all wearing the general managers college jersey,
you know, very collegial kind of scene there and others are sort
of like I think I'm supposed to clap now.
I think this I think good pick, good pick, good pick Is Sanders
pet draftable in BBM if dart. No, no, Dart's draftable.
I mean, who's? The Brown starting quarterback
those weeks? I have no idea I.
Mean, I think probably should know Sanders would be the
plurality choice. That's not enough.
I don't need it's, it's not redraft like I need to know, I
need to be like confident that this dude's starting in week 17.
You you take 3 quarterbacks at most.
So I'm going to take one of those is going to be a guy where
I'm like, I don't know, maybe he'll play.
And if he does be probably bad, I'm like, why?
He's not he's not going to he's not going to run with Deonte.
So he's he's not going to run. The Browns are going to the
Browns are going to be bad. So you're like, all right, I'm
taking the Browns pass only quarterback instead of Dart, who
was a first rounder who runs, who has backdoor stacking
options, right, You could take Slayton or Theo Johnson after
it's it's I I I don't have Chadur ranked in my top like I
didn't. I ranked 250 guys.
I did not. Rank.
I won't have a single Browns quarterback ranked when I
haven't posted. I might take Flacco.
I I could I could potentially be convinced to take a Flacco as a.
Quarterback, I just don't think it'll I, I assume that.
I convinced you not to take Flacco.
No, don't take Flacco. I assume for the first half of
the year that it's probably going to be 1 of or both of
Flacco and Pickett. And for the second-half of the
year, it's probably going to be 1 of or both of Gabriel and
Sanders. But like they, they might play
all four of them at some point. Like they're, they're at least
going to play I think two or three.
And I don't know who's going to be in the chair at the end.
And probably all of them will suck.
So like, yeah, I, I think it's just friends don't let friends
draft the Cleveland Browns this year.
You could take. I think I was going to take
anybody it, it would be Gabriel, honest to God, because that's
the guy they believe in like Shidor, they don't even believe
in so. But Gabriel might run a little
bit, yeah. It's like a smidgen, yeah.
I'm still not gonna take Gabriel.
Yeah, we don't have any of these guys in the top 250.
I mean, it's two weeks to the schedule.
Davis Browns at Lions Week 17. I mean, I don't know.
That's not, that's a, that's a possibility.
I still I still I mean I truly I I would rather take bill row
unstacked, uncorrelated. I would, yeah.
Yeah, of course, of course. I won't do that but.
There's a bet here like it's OK, It's it's like, it's not a
parlay. Like Sam Darnold stinks.
No row plays. No row has a fantasy profile
that will score points. So you just have to you're
betting against Sam Darnold playing well and you're betting
against Seahawks making the playoffs.
Like that's I'm not taking Noro, but like OK, darts, darts is
going to play this year. Darts is playing.
So you're you're going to get starts from dart.
And that's just basically, does he play well enough to make the
pick worth it? Because he's not going to play
most of the year, but he'll play the end of the year.
So is he good enough to be worth having in the playoff weeks?
But that's a, you know, a reasonable bet at his price.
These other guys, I just don't see the point.
You just, you're the vast majority of the time you're just
putting a 0 in your lineup. Yeah.
I prefer my zeros with style points.
Agree. I'd I'd rather take Damien
Martinez, you know, and just lock in that zero you.
Know Land Larrison Land Larrison season Tyler Warren.
Jacob. That's awesome.
Pretty good. Lynn Less less than MVS got from
the Bills. Less than JK Dobbins got from
the Chargers. Even that as we open up the
slides. Welcome back Zach.
Good to have you. Good to hear things are turning
up in your your family. Tyler Warren to the Colts.
I know I watched even was on Colts chasing on on Thursday
night. But here we go.
We've got, we've got the Spider Man meme going.
Five guys. There's Tyler Warren.
He's he's, he's a faller. I like the I like how much
bigger woods is than the rest. I really enjoy that.
That's good. Where's MO Alley?
Where's MO Alley Cox? MO Alley Cox has been forgotten.
He's. Yeah, he's still think he
couldn't make the graphic. Well, no.
Granson is gone now. I think Granson is a Jaguar,
maybe, but MO Alley's still there, you know?
Yeah, MO Alley will always be there, like in In a Nuclear
Apocalypse. All that will be left is the
cockroaches and the MO Ali cogs. Kylie Granson plays for the
Eagles now. So when Dallas Goddard gets
traded. Kyle Granson, Susan.
Wow. But.
Nevertheless. Yeah, I mean, I I love, I've
totally talked myself into the Tyler Warren pick in real life
already. I've gotten there in the first
yard. I was kind of like disappointed
because I wanted Loveland more, but now I'm all in.
So that's good. Not great for fantasy.
Still can't can't really talk myself into that one.
Give me another week though. I probably will.
But yeah, I think they mostly picked Tyler Warren to run the
ball better from 11 personnel. I think they, they didn't like
that they had like either totally non pass catching viable
tight ends or only pass catching viable tight ends who still
weren't that good of fast catchers.
And so they're kind of trapped in the spot where they, they
kind of only run the ball last year from heavy personnel, but
they didn't want to be in heavy personnel cuz.
And you have to take Josh Downs off the field and he's the best
wide receiver. And so they want to keep Josh
Downs on the field all the time. They want to play 11 all the
time, and they want to be able to run or pass out of 11.
And so Tyler Warren, I think, can end this tight end
committee. If there's like one piece of
thought I've seen on Warren that I actually do disagree with,
it's the idea that they're still going to have this committee.
I think that they explicitly drafted Tyler Warren to not have
a tight end committee. I think he's going to play like
90% of the snaps almost immediately.
Unfortunately, they're going to throw like 470 passes and then
about 120 of them will be completely uncatchable.
So if you like 71 targets at a 4.7 A dot from extremely poor
accuracy quarterbacks, you're going to love Tyler Warren.
Yeah, I mean, I don't believe they'll have a committee either.
They're going to play Warren and Warren's good.
So he'll he'll dust these guys and they'll have a stuffed
design form as well. I don't know, from the real life
perspective, isn't MO Ali Cox a better run blocker or whatever
like or whoever? No, he's one of these guys.
Kind of not. He's just so unfluent.
Like he's big and bulky but he's just useless.
Next question. Yeah, Oh my God.
I don't know. He's a decent blocker like
Mollie Cox. Then I thought that's what he
was for. No one.
Understands how Ali Cox, he's a decent blocker if it's like like
we attach another tight end of the line and he just has to
block in a phone booth. But if he's like the last guy on
the line, then like he's just so slow that like you could just
kind of run around him. I'll, I'll let you bet this -110
either side more receptions, Dawson Knox or Tyler Warren.
Warren, Warren, Warren didn't have more sessions.
Yeah, that's the other thing. And I said this on cold cases.
In hater Warren. Well, we're so Brett Jones is
saying we have him behind Kincaid.
It's like, yeah, 'cause we're trying to help people win money,
you know, like he's gonna wait. Kincaid's not very good.
He's gonna grab Dalton Kincaid. That's that's incongruent.
Before. Warren, we're assuming 72 or
more catches for Dalton Kincaid. No, no, I said 71 targets.
Targets right. Give me give me the over on
Kincaid. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think
with Warren, the nice thing is, and I said this the other night,
as much as the Colts do have other weapons, they don't have
any other Yak weapons. So they're gonna get a lot of
scheme stuff to Warren. They're gonna give him RPO tight
end screens. I don't know.
I'm excited to see where he falls in drafts cuz I I could
talk myself into it at a given price, but yeah he's gonna need
to fall considerably from where he from where he was.
Before he's just, it's been this way.
He's in a funny spot right between, of all people, Kelsey
and Andrews. One O 410-5106.
It's funny that like he's sort of sandwiched in between the
two. I don't know Legends in terms of
Andrews, probably strong. Significantly behind Kelsey and
Andrews. By the way, thanks NFL for all
the veteran trades. We were we were hyped up for on
on the weekend. I mean, Jalen Ramsey, obviously,
Breece Hall, Goddard Andrews, thanks for all the action.
It was fun. Pickens.
Kenneth Walker.
That happens in hockey. Fuck chasing quota achieved
every year. The insiders are all like,
there's going to be all this at the deadline and there's nothing
ever. All right, Risers and fallers.
So the big one is RJ Harvey after the Denver pick.
There's Chase Brown, who did pretty well, Ted McMillan,
Ashton Gente, Travis Hunter, Jack Besh.
Great result for him with the Raiders, Trey Harris with the
Chargers. You guys are total cowards. 68
RJ Harvey. Those are rookie numbers.
Got to get that up I. Mean.
I think it should be like a fourth round pick.
Yeah, I I think that is way too far because there's just roughly
no chance that Week 1, maybe even Week 5, Harvey is like
clearly dominating the other guy's not.
Pick that bat. It.
Yeah, sure. I mean, I'll, I'll bet.
The other guys in the backfield are asked, Audrick estimate No.
Julian McLaughlin, role player RJ Harvey.
Awesome. And he's already a veteran, so.
This might actually be because you're.
This might actually be because you're too young, but.
How dare you? He, Helen, lived like Davis.
Sean Payton. Sean Payton used to say stuff
dead ass. He'd look you in the face and
say the only thing holding Mark Ingram back is me, and then
absolutely changing nothing about his behavior and continue.
To give. Every other running back more
like those of you following at home.
Guess Mark Ingram's first 1000 yard season after being the 28th
overall pick by the New Orleans football.
Team. Didn't they like have the
running backs on the team when they drafted Mark?
Ingram No, he still. Around Bush.
He was with the Saints, but it was like year 4 or five.
It was late. It was it was year 4, so here
are some other running backs who got the ball over Mark Ingram.
Chris Ivory. You guys remember Chris Ivory?
Chris Ivory was kind of good. Former Bill.
Chris Ivory was kind of good. We of course.
Who could forget the 156105 touch distribution between Mark
Ingram and Pierre Thomas? Obviously, no one.
Pierre Thomas. All right.
Do we remember Jed Collins? Does anyone remember Jed
Collins? I got Jed Collins Jersey.
Does anyone remember? You sound like you sound like
Jed Collins is lost at Walmart and your mom paging him.
Where? Where Paging Jed Collins.
Jed Collins is so good. Yeah, I of course, I of course
am on board with the concept of RJ Harvey.
And I took him I think 2 out of my 3 drafts yesterday.
I've got no pushback. But this idea that RJ Harvey is,
is like locked into 232 rushes, 62 receptions.
It's at I I'm extremely skeptical of.
That here's why this is a. This is a good one getting that.
And not cowardly, OK, This is why let me defend the rank the
first, first of all. So you got you jump in drafts
and he will go on the fifth round, but I've also seen him
and I've been on the wrong side of the board where I didn't take
him in the early 6th, but then he goes in the mid 7th.
So he's going after this ranking a decent amount of the time.
I've only done 2. I haven't had a chance to grab
him. You also now have like the
there's there's a analyst pushback on the slappies.
You got the slappies are in the draft and they're like I'm
taking this guy in the fourth round.
I'm taking this. This this guy Audrey
Guesstimate. No.
Julian McLaughlin. No.
That's what the slappers are doing do.
You. Remember.
Do you remember when we were? Do you guys remember when we
were all excited? I was like, I got to get him in
the fourth, he's going to be going in the third in a week.
We were all excited about the Broncos backfield and then we
relearned the name Tyler today. No, we were actually wrong, but
we were right. Javonte Williams was fifth in
the NFL and targets last year. He had 70 targets and he was
turbo ass like he he was just you're so unbelievably washed
that that made the bet wrong, but the bet should have been
right. And then Peyton was like, I, I'm
my running backs have rendered me so incapable of using the
backfield the way I want to. I need to go get a good running
back. And they've only gotten one.
They only added one and it's RJ Harvey and he's awesome and
they're going to give him the ball immediately and they're
going to keep giving him the ball and he's going to score all
the fantasy points. I just I'm.
Trying to be. The ranking here that we have
is, is, I believe on the higher end of what, of what rankings
are. So you're like, here's what I
think. I mean, there's gonna be a bit
of push back the slappies. I mean, these slappies are, are
slapping so hard. They're gonna be done.
They're they're gonna have 150 by the middle of June like
these. And we know, we know the normal
drafters come in Leone. I was talking as we were doing
the the handover on on basketball breakfast yesterday.
He was. Sure, he's being cowardly about
this. Well, you know, he's being
Leone, let's say that. But no, I think I think he was
saying that on on at established to run.
They were like, Oh my God, we're behind on every rookie.
And then the middle of the summer happened and they're
like, Oh my God, we're ahead on every rookie.
The rookies. It used to be the case.
You you dove in and you could get really cheap prices on the
rookies like across the board. We don't really live in that
environment now. It's like already RJ Harvey, the
very first drafts, he's going in the fifth round.
If anything, RJ Harvey will actually be cheaper as we move
to the summer. Like if you want to get a bag of
RJ Harvey, I bet you that you can get some 80s RJ Harvey later
in the summer. I don't think he's going to.
I mean, he's an undersized running back.
There's going to be talk of estimate getting the early down
work. I know it's crap.
I'm not going to buy into it, but.
I just think that Nathan Yankee Jaleel McLaughlin has taken the
first snap for the Denver Broncos pre season week one
tweet. Oh, that's gonna hit like crack.
Yeah, I bet I bet you he he's gonna Nick P says legit 0%.
I bet you there's some 80s. There's probably already been 80
Harveys. Yeah, you've already lost this
bet. Yeah, I've.
Already. I've already taken Harvey in in
the 80s now. Yeah, he had a wide.
Range of outcomes yesterday because his opening ADP was like
100. And 50?
Sure, sure, sure. So like in, in a couple of days
like then he's going to have like a stabilized ADP and then
we're we're going to see what happens.
You're you're going to get him in the 80s when Peyton says that
Jaleel McLaughlin is still the starter.
Like just pace yourself, you. Know Davis?
Who's on the roster? Blake Watson, a really who's
going to be who's going to be active for kick returns?
That's on your ADP chasing bingo.
You don't get Davis. It's like I all I all I want to
make sure of is that I have 150 different configurations of RJ
Harvey best Ball Mania teams, right I'm.
Trying to draft like Leone. Flavors around RJ Harvey.
Yeah, I can't. I I don't want to imagine a
world where any of my best Ball Mania entries don't have RJ
Harvey. That would be an unjust world.
Well, fair enough. I'm.
Trying to draft 24 is going on 25 years old.
That's why I have to draft him in best ball because I can't get
to his dynasty price in dynasty. I'm the coward because I'm like,
I'm like, I really want to draft this 24 year old rookie running
back who I'm in love with, who was like my third favorite real
life rookie running back. But I'm like, I can't actually
justify taking like a 24 year old rookie running back like the
one O 8 in superflex dynasty. I'm like that's, that's just
irresponsible. But in basketball, I don't have
to be responsible. I don't have to worry about his
age. I can just.
I can well. Because we're all going to lose
anyway. Yeah, and and the other thing
about you mean he's my guess with Harvey, the kind of the
career arc is that he doesn't work as like a true lead back.
But I bet you they try it and that's all we care about, you
know? Why do you think he's going to
work? I mean, I don't think he's he's,
he's explosive and I think he's going to be like a reasonably
effective runner, but not because he's because he's like a
little bit undersized and I, I don't know, watching him, I'm
like this dude is looking for the big play a lot like I I'm
not sure he's going to be like that consistent.
Finding it a lot. And finding it a lot, but that
works better. Where'd he go, UCF?
In Central Florida. Yeah, it's he reminds me of guys
who've gotten pigeon holed. Now being with Sean Payton is
the perfect place to be if you're if you have any of those
concerns. But yeah, I think like year 2-3,
is he like, yeah, definitely. Nothing frustrating happens with
Sean Payton coach, players. Yeah.
Well, that's just 'cause you like all the bad ones, Davis.
This guy's not Marvin Mims. They've all been bad, brother.
There's been one good Broncos fantasy player in the Sean
Payton era. I think I think people are
conflating the annoyances they have drafting Sean Payton wide
receivers on to Sean Payton running backs.
Like I feel like the only thing that is the only reason why they
haven't gotten satisfied by their backfield the last year is
just because Javonte just sucked.
Like if they like, that's valid, but for the last two.
Years he kept. Getting the ball, he kept giving
the ball to Javante and then he just wouldn't do anything with
it. But like he wasn't like being
like, oh, I'm going to try all this crazy stuff.
It was like, I'm just going to keep giving the ball to Javante
and be like, ah, that didn't work.
So like now he's just going to keep giving the ball to RJ
Harvey and and it's probably going to work better than it
worked with Javante. But I just, I, I don't know, I
don't think in like the fourth round or even the fifth round
you're getting, there's certainly a upside for it to pay
off, but it doesn't that's, it does feel like a bit of a.
Like I'm sorry dude, Joe Mixon is a better pick than RJ Harvey.
Yeah, sorry. Dude, I guess.
Joe Mixon's a better pick than RJ Harvey.
I don't want to have to say that I imagine.
You're forcing me to say that, Jacob?
To quote to. Quote Pete one Peter Overset
from yesterday's stream. No disrespect meant to Woody
Marks. I'm sure you would say that
here, Davis. No, I I intend to fully
disrespect Woody Marks. He.
We. Don't have in the ranks I
believe. I can't handle it.
Yeah. They traded a extra 3rd to go
get him, I think I think we. You got to want it.
Yeah, yeah.
I no thanks on the woody marks stuff.
Chase Brown as good as people think.
The result of the draft. Yeah, awesome.
Yeah. Oh my gosh.
Wheels. On unless Unless Zach Moss,
like, has been sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber for the last
six months or getting on steroids or something.
It's possible, I guess the the touch distribution last year
when they were both healthy. If that repeats like I did, I
did happen to look at Mike Clay's projections 'cause he's
like the only one where you can see them to the granular level
right now. And and he has Chase Brown is
like the worst value on the board.
He's got him for 191 rushes and 55 targets which would be like.
Why? Where?
Where are the rest of the rushes going?
He's got 95 for Moss, 31 for P Ryan, 10 for Taj Brooks.
Yeah, I mean, I'm going to fade Mike Clay on that one.
I don't think it's like generally you don't project like
a whole backfield to go to one guy, but that's what we saw them
do and. Must we know?
That that will not have they're not gonna they're not gonna have
a 97% snap shares for this guy. I I would be.
I would be sure they're not gonna have 97% snap shares, but
I could see them doing a chyron thing.
They basically did the chyron thing where they're like, all
right, this is the guy we actually trust.
Which is, which is great. Yeah, which is?
Great, which is awesome and that's you'd be at 80% I think
pretty easily. Like he's maybe he doesn't start
there, but like NFL teams do what's working, you know, and
he's he's been blessed. Like he gets his Zach Moss and
Taj Brooks was late day three pick who's kind of Chase Brown
ish, but he's, you know, maybe the rookie Chase Brown where he
touches the ball three times and then we draft him excitedly the
following year. Like like the slow version of
rookie Chase Brown. The the thing for me about.
I thought he'd be though his 40. Was not a slow.
He's he's not like, yeah, the the people thought he would be
like epically slow, but he's he's still not fast.
He's not He's. Not fast.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing for me about Brown pre
draft was like the Bengals whole story last year was their
defense was so bad for so much of the season that even with
Chase and Higgins going off they still couldn't get to the
playoffs. So this draft had to be about
defense for them which took running back off the table until
day three in my mind. And that sort of made it just
sort of smooth for Brown. So I hope you were in on him
before the draft. I was not in on Brown before the
draft. I mean, I thought this run out
was unlikely because, you know, there's a comment saying he's
not very good and so he could like lose work.
And yeah, I mean, I don't think he's very good either.
But they didn't add any competition.
So it's like lose work to who? This is one of the things I
screwed up last year. I think especially in basketball
where like having the points early on when you can't, you
know, pick up guys off the waiver wire and stuff like it's
very helpful to Kamara's gonna lose work.
Nixon's gonna lose work. Like to who?
And there wasn't A to who you know.
So yes, Brown, I mean. And this is the Bengals offense.
I mean, that's, yeah. Great.
Yeah. And I think he's better than
people think. Like I, I, I feel like I was
saying this in the offseason last year and then even in
season. It's like, is he an elite
running back? No, but I, I think that
sometimes people treat him like he's like a bad running back.
I don't think he's that either. I think he's like I.
Think he's bad? No, I think.
He's like a league average starting running back where like
if a team was like we want to take work away from this guy.
I I would get it because he like he probably isn't a good enough
running back to command like one of the top five opportunity
shares in the league. But he he's certainly solid,
like he is explosive and he can catch passes.
He's really improved in pass protection and he's, he's like
gotten to a place as a runner between the tackles where he's
good enough and it's like, all right, we're, we're good with
that. Tuba Hubbard on the Bengals.
Tuba Hubbard, Yeah, but if he's coming.
Back then, Chase Brown. Tuba's better, but I think Chase
is a better receiver. Well, Chase Brown is really fast
and just one of the interesting things that happened last year
was for whatever reason, he did not like there were no 60 yard
touchdowns. Once Zach Moss got hurt you you
literally toss in one of the of the explosive plays and all of
his stuff looks better. You know, his rush yards over
expectation, his yards per carry, like literally just one.
Yeah. I this it's a tale as old as
time. A day three pick who's explosive
and fast gets scaled up to full time work and loses efficiency.
Same thing that happened to a chain.
Obviously a chain was a day two pick.
But I don't, I don't, I don't really think it's I don't really
think it's rocket science here. Chase Brown is probably going to
get 240 touches of the football and he's on a good offense and I
just like, you know what he is, Karine, He's a he's kind of a
dead zone running back, but one that we like what like where we
like the we like the we like the stock you.
Know. He's projectable.
Yeah, he is project. He's honestly though Davis, he's
Chase Brown would have gone in like 2018.
He would have been like the one O 9 I.
Was going to say he'd be. You would have been the Kenyan
Drake when Kenyan Drake went like at the 110 or something.
Yeah, with a mix in that year or the Jacob, remember when Jacobs
used to go at 1:12? It's like more like that.
He went in, you know, Europe. I would get Pete, Pat, you guys
picked Brown. Pete and Mike Leone picked
Brown, end of third. I don't know about Davis's
draft, I think. I think, I think I took Chase
Brown every draft I did yesterday 'cause I have him
ranked in the 30s and you can get him in the fourth round
still. ADP35 Yeah on.
Yeah, I took a bunch of brown yesterday.
I, I don't, I mean you guys are making me question the rank
which is built a lot on the basically projected volume.
I mean, I like that. Rank, but that that is like a
good rank. All right.
So how do you feel about the rank if Somash P Ryan just
returns to the role that he used to be in on the Bengals?
I think he will return to the role that he used to be in on
the Bengals. All right.
Was last season in Cincinnati. 95 rushes and 51 targets.
But the majority of those came in like a three-week span when
Joe Mixon. Was yeah, that's right.
All right, let me pull up the We're Gonna Go game log.
Like he was like it was basically just a.
Pure third. He was a pure third down back.
And then Mixon got hurt, and then P Ryan went crazy for a few
weeks, and then Nixon came back, but he was still kind of hurt.
And then they split like 5050. Is that their Super Bowl season
he met or in the playoffs too? No, that was the year they lost
the Chiefs year they lost AFC Conference Championship in
overtime. The year after, OK.
So like Nixon? Prior to Nixon getting hurt, P
Ryan was was pure third down back.
Like 3 carries and two targets a game.
He is he. So I'm looking at it right now,
he still did play about 30% of the snaps, 25% of the snaps,
sure. I mean that is the.
Pass block. Sure, but you won Chase Brown.
He was getting like 4 1/2 a game.
Yeah. It is.
It is 3 years ago. Right it.
Is 3 years ago. I mean that's his age maybe, but
they did bring him back. It's an if Ted McMillan, I'll
just say. Before we get to Ted, I want to
just on the mixing comment. So we had Brett saying Woody
marks the league winner when mixing gets hurt.
I do I, I don't agree from a prospect perspective on woody
marks, but I do feel like maybe I, I there's a leak here of
like, I'm like. We just miss stuff all the time
because we don't know anything about running back.
Prospects, Yeah, and I don't think Woody Marks is good, but
if you just paid attention to the draft capital and the trade
up, you'd be like, yeah, he's the clear handcuff to a guy none
of us like and is old. So any thoughts on Woody Marks
is ceiling? Yeah, I mean, I thought he was
just a satellite back. So like my initial reaction was
he's he's the new dare Goomba Wale.
He's going to play every 3rd down, but he's not really the
backup if Mixon gets hurt. But you're right.
Like if not Woody, then who is the backup if Mixon gets hurt?
Like there's no one else, right? Like who who else is in the
roster literally is nervous. Damien Pierce is still around.
But like they didn't want to do anything with Pierce last year.
I mean, they basically did play Daria Goomba Wale as the primary
backup when Mixon got hurt last year because they they had such
little interest in playing Cam Akers or Damien Pierce.
So yeah, I guess like probably would be Marx, but I think it'll
I think it would be Marx in like a Daria kind of way where what
they actually do is they just go really pass heavy without Joe
Mixon. And then they you know, maybe
Woody gets like a 8 carries and seven targets in that like
start. And then they also give like
another 7 or 8 carries to Damien Pierce.
I I don't know. I.
And they saw him acres the following week.
And then dare. Yeah, like what do you, what do
you think of the wall is still there?
There's nothing about Woody's. I'll put it this way, there's
absolutely nothing about Woody's prospect profile that says he's
more than a satellite back in the NFL.
But like for a two to three-week stretch, that doesn't
necessarily preclude an NFL team from using a satellite back as
more than a satellite back in reserve.
And and that can be really valuable.
Like we've seen, we've seen guys who are clearly not NFL rushers
and are actually just satellite backs, you know, have had
success in two to three weeks spurts.
Like you think of like a Justin Jackson who was a league winner
in BBM like a few years ago. Because he got played.
Back up while they just went extreme pass heavy and threw him
the ball 10 times. So yeah.
And the nice thing with Woody is like I do have a lot of
confidence he will play from Week 1 because he he should be
immediately the third down back. I am confident he can do that.
So isn't, isn't. Dare going to be the third down
back. I got him in the ranks.
I I, I think Woody is going to displace dare really quick.
They treated. A third round they treated a
future third round pick for this guy.
He's not going to he's. Just his Dari, the two the two
head in the sand fantasy analyst.
Things I don't want to do are ignore woody marks, which I did
ignore to start but I just put him in the ranks and we'll
update later today. And Isaac Tesla who they traded
literally 2 third round picks to trade up for and take.
The gateway like content by putting my head in the sand on
on Isaac Tesla then. From a best ball perspective,
you're looking for dart throws late.
Like I'm pretty sure Isaac Tesla's going to play.
He just gave. Him, I mean, I'm fine, I'm fine
with him. There's a late.
Overall pick for the guy. I just think with marks, it's
like with marks we can be right and wrong.
Like we can be right that he is just a satellite back.
But we can be wrong in the sense of if Joe Mixon turns an ankle
and they have no other running back and they just play him 70%
of snaps anyways, then he'll score fantasy points.
Even if he has like 2.8 yards per carry, that's that's fine.
But like Tesla as a wide receiver on the Lions with Gibbs
and Montgomery and Laporta and Jameson Williams like that and
Amanara obviously like that's a tough nut to crack for a volume
perspective. Like he actually does have to be
good to do anything this year. So I I I feel more willing to
fade that than than the Mark situation.
I mean, Houston giving up a day two pick next year in this
thing. Like you really had to do that.
Apparently it's didn't. Back to the IT didn't do.
That. In the pronunciation department,
and I'm not meaning to correct anybody because I'll be
corrected next. It's Tesla, right?
It's is that better Tesla I'm gonna stick with?
Tesla. Yeah, I'm never.
It was Tesla until like a. Couple of months ago I think for
some reason. Yeah, just changed it.
Sure. Didn't you change it to Tesla I
believe? It's actually pronounced Isaac
Department of Government efficiency.
No, no, not anymore. The marketing potential there.
I just wanted to say on Ted McMillan that while I accept
that the landing spot seems good, I mean immediate #1 up and
coming offense, I kind of thought that was going to happen
no matter almost no matter what. There was some some shade on him
toward the end of the pre draft, but he was going to LA or he was
going, he was going somewhere cool already.
So another one where I feel like we wanted to be in before.
I definitely got a little bit nervous that he wasn't maybe
going somewhere cool. You know, that he was like he
was mocked to the Ravens in the late first round and stuff like
that. And you know, Mcshea had a wide
receiver 50 and everything. So I'm like some people like
hate this dude and I don't know where the NFL stands.
And I I did not think he was going to go top ten.
I thought he was very live to go to the Cowboys at 12.
Sounds like that like basically was a lot to happen if he got
there. But yeah, I, I, I was a little
bit more nervous about what his kind of path to targets could
look like. And then obviously here, it's
pretty clean. So yeah, I.
Who knew even the Tampa Bay would have been a consideration
or would have considered him like.
That exactly. We were never talking about him
them. The infill draft is that would
have been. Horrible that.
Would have been horrible, yeah. That's not great.
I've been so tied up in dynasty world that I haven't gotten
around to like setting up my best ball rankings.
But 32 looks vaguely fine. I think probably like a mid to
late 3rd pick on on tat as a clear #1 should be good.
Like he got 150 targets here if he's the Prince it was promised.
A lot of weight on Bryce Young's Nimble, skinny little shoulders
with the if we're, if we're taking Ted at 32 cuz, cuz you,
what you don't want to do is you don't want to have a huge bag of
Tet. You don't want to be like, dude,
I'm taking Tet over Mike Evans every time.
And then by Week 6 you're like, dude, where is Andy Dalton?
Where is the Red Rifle? You do not.
You do not want to be doing that to yourself for sure.
I I am taking technol over Mike Evans every single time so.
Jacob, I am. I am as well.
Come on, Andy Dalton. Dynasty.
Pick what, by the way? Three, I haven't ranked the one
O 3, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, we did a. Hunter at 2 and Hampted at 4:00.
So we're on established schedule to mock draft yesterday, and I
think, yeah, Reeves took Hampton and then Theo took.
Classic Reeves. He Theo took Tet at at 3:00.
So at 4:00 I took Hunter. So, but I do, I do think it's, I
have Hunter too, but I do think it's flat that that you could
take any of those guys. I I don't I have Hunter in his
own tier but I understand that the the the market thinks it's
flat. Like I've looked at if you go to
dynastydatalab.com you can sort by just post draft rookie ADP
and Travis Hunter has has been the one O 5 so far in post draft
dynasty superflex drafts it is super flat.
He definitely goes at one O 2 fairly often as well, but he's
been the one O 5 on average. I think the way I'm treating it
in my drafts is like if I have the one O 3 to one O 5, I'm not
trying to trade out to the one O 2.
I'm just going to let Hunter fall to me on the occasions that
he does unless I like and then if I'm outside of the one O 5,
then I will well, I'm not usually interested in Cam ward,
but then, but I will basically just try to trade up if either
tat or ward fall to like the one O 4, the one O 5.
But I'm I'm trying to avoid. I'm drafting 100 all of my one O
2's that I I have naturally, but I'm trying to get my surplus
hunters at discounts. I'm not like, you know,
initially I thought like, Oh my gosh, I might just have to trade
up to one O 2 in every single draft, but I'm I'm not trying to
do that. I'm not going to.
I'm not going to get over my skis.
It feels to me like every dynasty league I'm in, somebody
in the last two days has posted one O 2-3 or four on the block
like they're trying to. I have I have the one O 2 in our
league and I'm trying to get rid of it.
I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get like a super premium asset.
For I think it's going to be tough.
I think you could get a good veteran.
We we talked about this last week.
I think that's a a trade that's makeable, but moving down and
adding a third or something is not happening most.
How about how about this one? I I made a trade in a league
where I traded Marvin Harrison Junior for the one O 3 and a 26
second and at the one O 3 I took Travis Hunter.
I would mean I, I might, I might have Hunter ranked ahead of
Marvin Harrison. Junior, I have Hunter.
I have Hunter and Mcgillan ranked head of Marvin Harrison.
I'm pretty sure I don't. I did, I did our like in our
sheet that we all have together. I redid my rankings but I didn't
do any market checking yet to see if I'm like insanely out of
line on anyone. I I think I have Hunter ahead.
I have Harrison ahead by like 5 spots.
Yeah. I do have them all in the same
tier. Well, I have Hunter actually not
in that tier. I have Hunter a tier ahead of
McMillan and Harrison, but I I have McMillan ahead of Harrison
as well by two spots. Yeah, rapping on risers, Jack
Besh, Trey Harris, both guys did great.
Good for the Jacob Sanderson brand and bags right there on on
Jack Bash and Trey Harris. Those are those are rookie
numbers. Besh is going to be Crane.
I think maybe we talked, we talked about Kelvin Benjamin.
On this that's just sitting there like if you want Besh
right now you do not need to follow this rank.
You can. You can get him way after the
rank. I took him at 125 yesterday just
'cause I was in AII, did like A4 running back start build and
needed wide receivers and it was just like yeah dude, I'm taking,
I'm taking Jack Bash. It is.
It is wide open for him. Did you guys, were you guys
watching NFL Network by chance when he was picked?
Because they did this thing for every team where they'd show you
it was fantasy friendly 5 skill position guys like what they're
what their team is after the pick and on the Raiders they
didn't have Jacoby Myers, but they had monster.
I mean that that's just sort of peak Jacoby Myers disrespect, I
think at this point because. An epidemic.
Man, it's crazy. Monster over Jacoby Myers?
That's a mess. And you know, Trey Harris, some
people on this program were like, oh man, you might go in
the third. You got to you got to mix up
your exposures. You can't just keep clicking
Trey Harris. Other people said, that sign
doesn't bother me because I can't read.
And we just play Trey Harris and only Trey Harris the entire
season. And you know who won that
battle? Trey Harris.
That only Trey. I'm sure, I'm sure there'll be
nothing frustrating at all about a boundary wide receiver playing
for the Los Angeles Chargers stuck behind an absolute volume
merchant outside. I'm sure I'm.
Sure, you merchant, that's that's derogatory.
I don't. I don't, I didn't.
I didn't really mean it. I didn't really mean it
derogatory, but also I'm sure there'll be nothing frustrating
at all about Mike Williams's presence on the team.
Yeah, that. Definitely won't happen.
And then Keenan Allen resigning on August 12th.
I'm sure there will be absolutely nothing frustrating.
Talk about spider Man. Yeah, I am prepared for like
extreme tilt at the level of snaps that Quentin Johnson.
And yeah, I was gonna say and surely, surely.
They'll be. About Quinton Johnson's presence
at all. I'm looking forward to Week 7
when I'm writing the walkthrough.
Trey Harris up to 60% route participation last week.
Looking positive for the young the young rookie.
Well looks like you guys will continue to to to sleep on Trey
Harris and his 5.12 yards for route run.
So I got him. I took him in one of the two
drafts yesterday. I know, you know, all these guys
are still moving around and everything.
It's not he's going to definitely settle there.
But I also got Higgins at around this price and I was worried
that they were going to be like immediate 8th rounders.
And maybe, who knows, maybe they kind of will settle there.
But it doesn't feel like at least so far that this is like a
a fader stance on on Harris. We'll see.
No. I can move them up a little.
Yeah. Speaking of the Chargers.
Looks like I do have them a little higher than this if ADP
moves up, so he'll move up if ADP goes up a bit more.
Anyway, go ahead. Yeah, Speaking of the Chargers,
on top of the Fallers list is 1. Naji Harris as we run this group
down. Jerome Ford.
Sorry, Jacob. DJ Moore, Christian Kirk, Tyrone
Tracy. That's an interesting one.
We talked about him last week. Tyler Warren, there is.
And then, of course, Jalen McMillan.
I feel like you guys were always sort of making this bet on
Harris. I was into it, but not enough
money, not good enough and the Chargers were.
I I was into Harris Hampton pick 120 before.
But yeah, yeah. After he signed with the
Chargers, he was completely undraftable 'cause he just got.
Immediately. Too, too expensive.
I mean, it was like a. 6th Rounder.
Yep. You you want to talk about guys
who make YouTube commenters mad? You you start talking too much
about Naji Harris and the YouTube commenters will will
come for you. Give it to me.
Keep. Let's keep.
Let's keep talking, yeah? If only there was some.
Guys whose usage is going to frustrate you, by the way, the
first month of the season. Oh, now she's starting.
Now she's starting for the Chargers Week 1.
I, I, I bet -900 Naji Harris first carry for the Chargers
this year. If only there was some way to
predict that Jerome Ford would easily be usurped.
They're just sadly, sadly, there just would have been no way to
to to predict that that could have happened.
Jacob. Yeah, well, we're looking at my
client is, is, is going to be speaking with management and you
know, maybe he'll be requesting his release to look at
opportunities in the Dallas Fort Worth area.
Once over. Jerome 4 but good.
That's that's the part that that stings with.
Yeah, that that is that is what I did not see coming.
Like the Judkins thing was like, that sucks, but like no biggie.
Because like in my view is like he was going in, he was going to
pick 140. And in my view it was the bet
was like if he somehow survives, like if they only pick Samson,
that it's like wheels up. Like, you know, we're we're
we're moving up in the world. And if they pick a Judkins, it's
like, well, that was completely priced in.
He should still be going in like 140 to 170 range anyways.
Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, but the fact that they
double replaced him, gotta admit that I didn't see that coming.
So it's over for for Jerome Ford.
It it's over now. Yeah, it's it's not he's not
like dead to matter, but he's not worth it's not a bet worth
making anymore. So I've got my big board bags.
We'll see. He's not the shepherd I thought
he was, but maybe, maybe he'll have a little value.
No dude, he'll get 4. Just just like several plants,
you know, in the industrial Midwest, the the Ford windows
closed. I I agree by the way, Corrine
with this DJ Moore nuking, I got some pushback on this yesterday.
I. Think you should nuke him a lot
more? My rank.
That's way too high. I love, I love this.
Well. Speaking of doubling up the
bears. He's got a, he's got a that's.
Where I thought he should have been drafted before the draft.
Do you do you think he has trade outs?
Because if you think he's. Got no because they would eat
$30 million of dead cat to trade him.
Yeah. But I think he has benched outs.
His effort last year was deplorable.
He he was quitting on every play.
He couldn't beat any coverage on any non gimmick routes.
They had to scheme a bunch of running back carries.
It's a new regime coming in. I don't know how it's going to
all shake out. I just know that I want to bet
on the guys that Ben Johnson specifically went out and
targeted in all formats. I want to bet on burden.
I want to bet on loved 1. And I'm not going to let the
guys who were part of failed Bears teams of the past stop me
from betting on fun young players who Ben Johnson went out
and and targeted. So like I'm I'm I'm going to be
a big like if if that leg up breaking of 42 wound up being as
a DPI would have a 0.0% DJ more exposure.
And then, you know, I have some level of interest in a doomsday.
But but I'll be buying into the uncertainty aggressively on
Loveland and Burden. OK, you you would take a
doomsday over more. Where?
What's a doomsday's ADP right now?
I've been solely dynasty pill so I didn't draft.
Is it? Like 40-50. 8.
Yeah, 50. # I. Wouldn't I wouldn't touch either
of those. I wouldn't touch either of those
players anymore. OK.
And the bears, I think, DJ. Moore should be like, I think, I
think all these players should be close.
I think DJ Moore should be like a sixth round pick.
I think a Doomsday should be like a sixth round pick.
I think Burden should be like a seventh round pick in Loveland,
should be like 1/8 and 1/2, OK. I'm going to want to build bear
scenes, I just have to move to a different state to do it.
Yeah, the market is not going to agree with you on.
No, but I think the market is incorrect.
Burden does not strike me as a seventh round.
Heck, I guess, I guess actually we have him in the seventh
round. So he does strike me that way.
He just was. It was striking to hear him that
close to those guys. Yeah, that's my stance.
I think it should be more compressed.
I know the market's not going to agree with me on this, but I I'm
very sure that I'm going to have a stance that is like 20%
Loveland, 20% burden, 0% more, 5% of Doon's say that's.
Loveland for Loveland for me is the like the safest bet
actually, ironically for a rookie because the wide receiver
distribution could go a few different ways.
But I feel like that that pick first round, I mean red zone
yards per target, I, I think Loveland is the one maybe I'd
want the most. Does he definitely commit
immediately though? Because you have, you have a guy
who's been, he's very capable of like doing tight end stuff, even
if he's not good enough to have be a starter anymore.
They they clearly are going to move on from him eventually, but
it could be a bit of a slower start than we'd like.
For maybe for Loveland, command becomes Knox.
That that one they could get off of.
They want to I, I think, I think Loveland dusts someone
immediately. I don't know how.
They're calling him. I think.
That he.
No, he's way better than Dalton Kincaid.
He can. He because he can.
The thing is with Loveland that he can actually play either way.
He can. He can play.
If they bring Burden along slowly, they could play Loveland
in the slot a lot. But if they want Loveland to
play, why he he can block way better than and he can actually
do that. So I I think he does someone, I
don't know for sure if it's just Kamat, I think he is going to
play a mix of Y&F early. And if it becomes a point where
burden and Loveland look like hits, then they just get rid of
Cole combat and they play the three wide receivers.
They play Loveland at Y. But if burden looks like he's
not going to be a hit, then they could still play commit at Y.
They can play Loveland at F Or if it gets to a point where you
know, DJ more or Rome start to look like massive busts, then
then maybe they take one of those guys off the field more
often. So I, I think there's multiple
outs. I I just try to look at a zoomed
out view. I think Loveland's an awesome
prospect. He gets 10th overall draft
capital. That's the guy out of everyone
on this offense that Ben Johnson prioritized.
He like I know Ryan Pole's still there, but I don't think he gets
like he's in the cock chair on this one like like Ben Johnson's
running the show. So I look at it as like he
decided I already have Roma Dunes Equal Command DJ Moore on
my team and I could draft any of these skill players in the
draft. But what what I want to do is I
want to invest a 10th overall pick in Colston Loveland.
So either that means he views his current players as
insufficient, or he loves Colston Loveland so much that
he's willing to displace them anyways.
And I'm happy with either of those scenarios from a Colston
Loveland perspective. Totally, Cole Canocks, Davis
Summer saying. Cole yeah, I mean, the the Bears
offense is probably like likely to be annoying, just like with a
a really random target distribution week to week
doesn't matter that much for us. But they've got, you know, five
guys who've got to be on the field who will, who will play at
least, you know, 40% of the snaps.
Are whatever. I also think like the burden
part of it, if this was if they had taken Abuka, I would be
like, there's just like panic in the streets on the bears
rankings. Like I, you know, then then I'd
be, I think closer to where Jacob is on, on the veterans.
But burden is volatile. Like this guy might be like he,
he fell to the second round because of like off the field
stuff as far as, you know, not like allegations or anything,
but just like, I don't know if we can like count on this guy
and maybe they can't, you know, so he's there's, there's
questions about, you know what, you know, the, the completeness
of the route tree. You know, they, you know, how
much of it was kind of more gadgety stuff.
They love the yak and the explosiveness and the the
ceiling is unquestionable now, but the floor is still, I think
pretty low just given the prospect profile.
And so, you know, it's just like a little bit harder for me to
just take DJ Moore, who was going in the third round before
and be like, he's a 6th rounder now.
A doomsday. This actually makes me more
nervous about a doomsday in the whole.
ADP though. Yeah, I took him some.
OK, maybe that's a difference. Like I I was like, couldn't have
been less interested in DJ Moore's old ADP.
I didn't expect them to do this, you know, I didn't think they
would like they, I didn't think they.
Do this either. I just thought he was so goddamn
bad last year and like, just like, didn't exude the energy of
an interested NFL player. Would you bro?
I. Just want you.
Would you have exuded energy for the 2012 Chicago earning?
$20 million. I would have some respect for
myself and not sit on the bench in the middle of a play.
I don't know man, I kind of like my I feel this way about.
Absolutely kind of waste, man. I I kind of like when my wide
receivers are Divas. Frankly.
It's kind of a long tradition of guys who lollygagged and then
when the going got good, they got going right.
It's just like, this is like this is like well versed
territory for star wide receivers to just dog it when it
doesn't matter. And then, oh, Caleb's pretty
good now. Offensive lines protected and
I'm gonna I'm gonna ball out. That is like we're talking about
basically a funny anecdote that DJ Moore is going to write about
in his book 13 years from now or whatever.
Like, dude, that 20/20/14 was crazy.
I hated my coach. I hated Waldron.
Caleb wasn't even watching film. Dude was too busy, you know,
painting his nails or whatever. Then Ben Johnson came in, was
squatting four O 5 ass to grasp. We, we were, we were ready to
go. You know, like I, I, I, I'm
saying dude. Please go strike DJ Moore's
memoir. I would read every page.
I I would I would draft Davis Maddock as DJ Moore at the 28.1.
I'm just I'm just saying, dude, like, like, I don't know, let's
just let's just go look at obviously everyone knows the the
the Randy Moss season, but like, let's just look at another stud
wide receiver. First one that popped up to me,
Chad Johnson. There's there's some crazy
dogging it games in there. Let's look at let's look at
Keyshawn Johnson, another guy who dogged it for multiple
seasons and then said, you know what, all right, I'm ready to
go. Let's go 110 thirteen 110 Chris
Carter. Chris Carter another He was so
mad when they drafted Randy Moss right I.
Your receiver. They draft Randy Moss like he
should be mad. That sucks for you real bad.
I, I think I think the if you really wanted to use your your
your NFL nerd cap, you'd say this is way more bearish for
Roma Dunsay, who they just took top ten and they say, you know
who gave a real need at wide receiver I.
Think it's way more bearish for Roma.
Doonsay too. Like Doonsay was was worse than
Moore last year. Doonsay really did not show that
much. We know that Moore I mean.
It's theoretically good. We have we have concepts of DJ
Moore being good. Yeah, he's he's 28.
He just turned 28, so it's not like he's really old.
Maybe he's falling off a little bit, but this is a window where
we normally expect guys to be in their prime.
And we know that he has been awesome in the past, but
Doomsday were like, not sure if he's even good.
And the Bears just drafted a guy in the early second round that
is that's a bad signal, I think on on what a Doomsday's role is,
is expected to be. A while back you said you know
something to the effect of we didn't know what the Bears were
going to do. Of course, the unpredictable
nature of the draft. I I might think that if the
Browns told Jacksonville. Yet we are not trading Travis
Hunter that Genti is a bear. There was so much speculation
about that 12 to. Five.
What did they trade up? They trade up to five.
I see. I see.
Yeah. And then the whole thing is, you
know, parallel or different universe.
But yeah, drafting 2 pass catchers with their first two
picks, I don't know. I didn't see it.
Admittedly, this is basically just what I'm doing where I'm
just like, TJ Moore quit on his team and this, and it's not a
dog. But there's a lot more large
debate going on in the chat about whether Roma Doons A is a
dog. We have, James says.
I know Roma Doons A is a dog from Washington, But then Pepper
Tony says Rome's too nice, not a dog, and then James Young says
disagree dog so. You know.
I'm I'm voting, I'm voting Rome. I'm voting Rome as of the
evidence right now. Low, low dog levels.
Low. Dog levels on Rome.
I I'm not sure about his dog levels.
I can't, I can't say that for sure.
I do think the one nice thing Rome has, you know, Loveland is
a tight end, so he's like an intermediate guy.
DJ Moore has been a good downfield receiver at times.
He wasn't last year. He was really a short area guy.
And so in theory that's kind of also a burden is so that's more
overlapping. Rome's the only guy who's really
like a field stretcher. So that's, you know, it works
two ways. One, I think that might protect
his routes where he needs to be the guy on the field that's
running that Kaufman of routes. It also is not a role that has
had much fun in the Ben Johnson and he's kind of an iteration of
the Sean Payton offense. Like, if you think about the
players who have played the role that Rome's probably going to
play on the Lions, it's like Tim Patrick, DJ Shark, Donovan
Peoples. Yeah, you just called him a poor
man's Isaac Tesla. Dude, he's literally, he's
literally he, he is. Like if you're just doing the
one to one, this dude is Tim Patrick right now.
Woof. And maybe we're wrong, like.
You know who, you know who. You know who Aman Ross St.
Brown is, by the way? Luther Burden.
No, it's more. Well, it is for now.
Luther Burden's right there. I mean you guys, I refuse to be
typecast as the anti burden guy because I was the one having to
tell you guys for. Life this 'cause you're such a
DJ Moore guy that you'll you'll turn yourself into the anti
whoever's opposing DJ Moore, you love DJ Moore.
We've we've disagreed about DJ Moore for our entire time
knowing each other. Now what if, what if what if we
just say Rome is the the odd man out then then burden and.
Guys, you can't make fantasy rankings.
Finally coming up with some weird DJ.
More truce. Like what if we just bury Rome
and then we both think of our kind?
Well, well, I'm just saying what if we if we if we do say, if we
if we just say Rome, Rome, Rome is Tim Patrick, then I want.
I want. The two St.
Browns, Tim. Patrick now Rome didn't say it's
Tim Patrick now negotiate 3 The seven ACL injuries I assume dog
dog in him dog dog used to be only bad just like.
Goat was the most dog in the NFL.
He came back from 2 ACL injuries and then played on the kneecap
biting lions and was totally crumulant.
That's incredible levels of dog. Roman doons.
They could never do that. The guy has that dog good.
The guy is a dog bad. He's the goat.
Good. It's a dog.
Oh, in certain contexts, yeah. Is a dog.
It's Ben. Yeah.
Dog is ultra now. We we said DJ was.
Dogging it last year, you know, it's, yeah, it's a lot of it's a
lot of context clothes. Let's do, let's do Jalen
McMillan real quick 144. Honestly, Crane still feels
optimistic. Sorry really quick Davis, can
Ioffer you a super truce? I'm listening Luther Burden,
RB1, DJ Moore. They won't say wide receiver 1
and 2. I'm hearing.
It and one Colson Loveland slot receiver.
I'm hearing it and I'm loving it, yeah.
There we go, there we. Go get that on the wall.
Shark Tank, What's happening? How great would that be?
McMillan guys, I apologize, but this is this is just anchoring
bias. They just took a wide receiver
at 18, brother. Like what?
He's a He's a handcuffed wide receiver.
He's Blake Korum at wide receiver.
Yeah. All right.
What's his? Is he good?
I. Mean he's fine I I think.
Many are saying he's this year's Dantevian Wicks.
Literally, yes. No, he is.
He is. We were wrong.
That was. Wrong.
We were. We were super, super wrong.
Although here's a here's a great Here's a great stat you could do
to make someone mad. You know who led the Packers and
targets last year? Dantevian Wicks Now don't ask
what the number was, but it it's just that that part is actually
true. 1876 Not not very many to lead.
Somehow is ADP still 124? Like I, I'm going through right
now and, and there's guys who we like we're like don't be tied to
ADP because the ADP is bad and I'm looking at the ADP I'm like,
oh, the ADP is already good. His ADP is at 122 right now.
That's so way too high. So yeah, makes.
Sense way too high, man. You guys are right.
We're I've just lowered him a little bit more, but I think
it's not like he's anywhere close to 144 yet.
You, you, you need to hit like I and I understand that there are
a lot of outs. So the outs are Ibuka stinks,
Mike Evans black marble season, Chris Godwin is not healthy.
You, you have a lot of outs, but his like, I don't know.
Here, let me pull. Up like 2 of them to hit for it
to really matter. Yeah, it wasn't that helpful
last year when he was the three. He was only really good last
year when Godwin got hurt and he became the 2.
Yeah, so Mike Clay has Jalen McMillan projected for 34
receptions. So I just, I just can't, I, I
can't get there to to be taking Macmillians, right.
Now where would you take them? Just like pure end of the end of
the crowd. He's Isaac.
He's Isaac Tesla. Yeah, you know, that's I'm just
going to nuke him, Yeah. Like I'd rather take Jack Bash
for instance, right? And like, oh I mean I don't
those are like 4 tiers apart right?
Like I I'd rather take Jalen Tolbert right now than Jalen
McMillan. Good God.
That's right, but I hate it. No, David's made a good point
that just ended the show. The point was too good and.
And I get. It it was over.
People like Jill McMillan, he scored all those touchdowns.
Actually, I was arguing with Pete's video editor who has like
some of the worst takes on the Internet and he was arguing with
me that McMillan was still a good pick and his his point was
7 touchdowns in five games. Then the season.
When is the last time something like that has been disrespected?
And the list of guys who have closed out the prior year hot
and then gone to immediate 0 is like, it's like.
Also like betting on, betting on, you know.
You know who this. Is also one of the worst things
is. The yes, general manager of the
Tampa Bay Buccaneers has has really disrespected Jalen Mcmill
in this offseason. Yeah, gave $70 million to Chris
Godwin, spent the 18th pick out of Becky Buca, then even drafted
Tez Johnson because the Bucks have to draft one.
Sort by yards for team pass the 10th player every single year.
It's yeah. It's just the the the best
recent comp was Zay Jones. Remember how Zay Jones had that
crazy end to the year Jacksonville and then like
literally never played again that it's.
It's. Well, Johan Dodson had the
touchdown driven rookie year and we're like, all right, I guess
we'd have to draft him the sixth round.
And I was like, Oh no. Zay Jones Zay Jones famously 3
touchdowns against Dallas in the fantasy playoffs.
He, along with Jerick McKinnon, who had three touchdowns the
same day against Houston, lifting Go Bills to a second
straight main event title. Yeah, 1.16 yards per route run
for McMillan last year, That's tough.
Yeah. I mean, it's totally.
Roma Dunsay. And yeah, it's it's, it's only
worse than Roma Dunsay. But Chase, Chase Claypool,
actually another guy who just scored a bazillion touchdowns
and then went to 0. That's a good one.
Yeah, that's a really good one. Love to argue with the touchdown
people. I mean, touchdowns matter.
You want touchdowns, you want to be thinking about them, but
they're they can't just be the touchdowns.
Knox had eight one year and it was yeah.
And the bills paid them, and they paid a lot of guys that
maybe aren't that good. Oh God dude, Tyler Shuck made
his way to a graphic. Here we go.
It's so dark. Rookie quarterbacks Jackson
Dart, Tyler Shug Speaking of having that dog in him, He had
the dog on him when he got picked, by the way.
That was a cool little scene there.
Nice and. Dog named Murphy.
He's got a dog. He's he has a golden retriever
named Murphy. Yes, we both have golden.
Oh my God. He's the new mascot of Leg Up.
Yeah. So I might, I might have to.
We we both have golden retrievers named Murphy.
I might have to reevaluate my perspective.
You guys hit someone in the girl, Murphy.
Too several podcasts. I've got the Doodle Boy Murphy,
which is a different, different flavor of dog Murphy, but the
yeah, the. Same dog name by the way.
I don't think I've ever asked this.
Like are you both just really into interstellar?
Are you like into each other? Like what's the scenario?
Beatbestball.com is a great site.
It's named No, I, I my, my Murphy predates me knowing Liam
Murphy. But I don't think Liam.
I don't think, I don't think Davis does.
I think you named your dog after meeting Liam.
It was, I mean, it was my, it was my wife's idea.
We thought we were getting a boy dog and we showed up to go pick
our dog out at the farm and there was one girl dog left and
we were like, oh, we, we like, we prefer girl dogs.
So we just kept the name. Nice.
Jacob, my dog is named Margot for a wine drinking Niagara on
the lake. It's and my daughter and my wife
and daughter were coming home with the puppy and I said just
my only my only ask is that the name have some sort of Canadian
connotation to it. It's like it's too late.
The dog's name is going to be Margot.
I'm like that's perfect. So just to be our feel included.
He's half Irish setter, so that was kind of the Irish, it's sort
of Irish nod and he's red, so that's how.
Margot the Pug. Close is close enough.
You could still call it Murphy in your head, Mike.
Yeah, do I? I didn't get a dog that starts
an M to remain on this show is what I'm hearing.
Yes. Do they do they let you do that
in Canada now? Are you allowed get?
Dogs. Yeah, yeah.
You know, I thought you had to have to express.
We have. That dog in US?
I thought, I thought what I, what I've been reading is that,
you know, you just can't do anything without governmental
permission in Canada. It's basically, you know, a
communist. Former Yeah, four more years of
communism, baby. Congrats brother, naming a dog
before you've met it and have it in your home is weird.
What are you you bringing nameless dogs in your house?
Pepper. Tony.
Yeah, what? Are you talking about?
What are you calling? There's just a an animal that's
just an animal if it doesn't have a name.
Yeah, you just call it dog. You got to get a feel for it
first, he's saying. I get over.
Here. You got to get a sense of the
personality. I've only ever had I've only
ever had shelter dogs before, so like all my other dogs I've ever
had already had a. Name.
This was this was the first time like my like wife's cousin knows
this gal who just like has a golden retriever and she has
like 1 litter a year and sells them.
So it was my first time ever like buying a dog.
And I think you and that's an and that scenario you it's comes
pre line up with the name. We only had one dog when I was a
kid. I haven't got one to move to BC,
but yeah, like I had the name ready to ready to go well before
we got the dog. Took the dog home, called it by
its name. Yeah.
The all time dog name. Nameless Dog is a good band
name. Nameless dogs.
The nameless dogs. You could do the nameless.
Dogs. You'd be nameless dogs.
Either way, it's really good Foo Fighters stuff.
Foo. Fighters Bill Simmons has a dog
named Murphy, which actually is so.
It's a great name, hey? Bill, how's your how's your dog
doing? Murphy Yeah, we're trying to
plot each trainer a little bit, but you know, she's coming
along. I love Bill Simmons.
Couldn't be couldn't be a a bigger.
All time dog name Steven Wright his dog's name.
What's a joke? But his dog's name was Stay.
Oh, that's really good. Oh nice, that is good.
Jackson Dart, Tyler Shug, Jalen Milroe Question on the screen.
Any of these quarterbacks draftable in best ball?
Of course Dart is. Dart is very draftable, but not
someone. Yeah, Shuck is draftable I
guess, but I don't. Is he the Week 1 starter
favorite? Why?
In New Orleans. Yeah, Nick, Nick Underhill said
he would be absolutely shocked if Tyler Shuck is not the Week 1
starter. He did, yeah.
Who else would it be? Well, Derek Carr.
But Carr, it seems like no. But no, right.
I mean, that's that's. Broken.
It's just, it's just over. It's just not happening.
I think so. Yeah.
I mean, I don't know why it's over like but but I.
There's more to that story, you're right.
I I trust whatever is getting reported.
So I I think it's going to be shock and I think he sucks, but
I do think he's draftable. I mean, if he's going to start
week 1, you know, and it's like we put it, I didn't even realize
that you had of age at 43. Good catch.
Oh. Man, Derek Carr was this is a
good bit. Derek Carr spoke at his church
this weekend and basically did like the New Orleans Saints or
the devil like the new like the the New Orleans Saints
organization is the is the devil in my life like holding me down
like a truly incredible bit? Seriously.
Wow. Yes, Lord, why are you giving me
your toughest battles? Like he yes, he was like, why is
this happening to me? Like.
And his battle, his battle was being a New Orleans St.
effectively. Was this just we all, you know,
you're well, come on up. And if you have something to say
here at church today, come on up.
Or it's just like, here's our invited guests, our special
Derek Carr. I assume like I assume he goes
to a mega church so I assume it was like he was like the
scheduled. Mega and mega.
Yeah. Is he a good get for a church as
a speaker? Sure, dude is.
Derek Carr a good get and. I think he's a pretty good get,
yeah. I wasn't going to go to church
this week, but I am now because Derek Carr is speaking.
My local church said that Derek Carr would be delivering a
sermon. I'd go.
I'd be interested to hear. I would go I would go check it
out like. We need a leg up quarterback
rankings. We need a leg up quarterback
rankings based on how excited would you be if you heard they
were speaking at your church this weekend?
I would bring my laptop and adjust the ranks as they were
speaking. That was my, that's my promise
to you. I would be in abuse as Derek
Carr rails on the Saints, lowering his odds of playing for
the Saints. That's honey.
Did you hear there's going to be an NFL quarterback speaking at
church on Sunday? Oh really?
Who? Russ?
No, I would be really. Low on my rankings.
I would skip Russ. I don't.
We have to go. Isn't there a picnic?
There has to be some uncertainty about what will happen, which is
why Jackson Dart is a good pick. Got us back on the rails.
You see that Jackson Dart, he's starting at the end of the year.
The whole organization's built around getting this guy on the
field by the end of the year at this point.
Well, the whole organization is in two people like this is this
is a for dynasty. I'm pretty sketched about the
slanting spot because I think there's a chance that he plays
like six games. Isn't that good?
They fire the only people who had investment in him and they
bring in a new GM who just summarily replaces him.
But in basketball you don't have to worry about any of that.
So I I agree, I think he starts sooner than later.
They're they're the only two paths for Dabel to save.
His job is is 1 make the playoffs or two, make Dart look
so good that they want to keep him around, to keep developing
him. Yeah, so.
Which is a better? Path and that's a better path
and I think he probably is is smart enough to know that's a
better path. They said Russ is the starter.
I'm sure he will be in week 1, but like once path 1 looks
unlikely, which should be about by week 4.
Yep. Then then they're they have to
go all in on path 2. So I think we get a lot of dart
this year. It's good for everybody.
I mean, Dabel can coach quarterbacks, so as bleak as
it's looked for him overall, if that, the Giants would never
want to have to replace a coach going into Year 2.
New system, everything like that.
You know, on some level this bet is a bet on Debo.
I think so I agree. I think he plays.
Yeah. I mean, I think the the thing
with Dart is like when does he play?
And then was it worth it eating zeros at one of your quarterback
spots for that long? Because Dart's at risk of
missing by weeks of guys that you pair him with.
So you could really, he could really be kind of a drag as far
as like you're taking a third quarterback to help with advance
rate and stuff. Well, he's actually probably
hurting you there. And then you get to the playoffs
and now you get this three-week period where it's like, do you
roll a dart in one of those three weeks and he actually hits
your line up? And he's not like this super,
super high upside type of guy. We were like last year with May.
I'm like, I think this guy's awesome now.
The situation was so bad it didn't end up working.
But like dart, I don't feel as like nearly nearly as confident
in the prospect. I don't hate it, but I don't
think it's like, it's just not something I'm going into drafts
thinking, oh, Jackson darts have like keep a spot open for
Jackson Dart or something like that.
Like he's, he's a fine way to add some late season upside, but
I want to have a really solid quarterback room.
I want to have like 2 guys like like like a Lawrence Purdy or
something would be would be great.
You know totally where you don't even need it.
I totally agree. Like last year I was going into
drafts trying to build May stacks and Nick stacks.
I'm I'm not going to be doing that proactively, but it'll be a
thing where on teams that I haven't leaked neighbors
already. If he happens to fit, I'm I'm
open, he'll be in my queue and I'm open to tacking him on.
Yeah. Milrose chances of getting in.
I mean, I think low, low, but possible.
Like I would say, I guess I would say probably it's like a
20% chance that he's starting by the team's choice in the
playoffs and then you maybe add another 10 to 15% for injury.
And so probably you wind up with like a one in three shot that he
starts the last three weeks of the season for either injury or
choice reasons. And that's it's something a leaf
with Milro, unlike shock, especially and Dart even like if
he's starting right. If if Sam Darwin was out for the
year tomorrow and they announced Jalen Milro as a starting
quarterback for the season, he'd probably go where Round nine?
Round 8. I mean probably after fields.
But a little later you go like around we, we, we weren't taking
Daniels till like round 10. I around 9:10.
So I think he'd go like 11-12. And this guy didn't win the
Heisman, so they didn't have a they did have a very popular
draft with Emin Wari in the second round.
Offensive line, then him you add Arroyo, a tight end.
And Tory and Tory Horton. And Tory.
Hortons, yeah. This is going to seem.
And Ricky White. This is going to seem unfair but
I really don't think it is. Like maybe from a ceiling
perspective is, but if Jordan Love was out for the for the
year and Malik Willis was announced as the starter, where
would he go? I think it's.
It's the devil. It's the devil you do know
versus the devil, right? We only think we.
Can dream on mill row. We we know Malik Willis is bad.
Yeah, but we also know Malik Willis to.
Operate the offense and they they'll play him and they can
win games with him. So like.
But they don't give them throwing 11 passes.
Yeah, but like Millro, Millro might be so bad that he gets
benched for whoever the third Stringer is.
Drew Lock. Never mind he he might.
Be. Yeah.
How old is rated? But like, you're not.
You're not drafting Jalen Millroe worrying about if he
might be bad like you. The only reason you're ever
drafting Jalen. Millroe, I'm worried he might be
bad if he was like an 11th or 12th round pick to that part,
but yeah, yeah, I. Hear I hear anyway, I'm I'm
probably not going to draft Millroe.
I just don't think that it's I think it's too thin like we're
saying, right? You're you're hoping for a
roughly one in three outcome so that you get what would be a
risky round 11 quarterback. Yes, yes, for maybe a few games.
Yes. So yeah, don't, don't.
That was my whole point. It's still risky in the 11th
round, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Not on the graphic, but what about Pittsburgh's?
Is it Will Howard? Pittsburgh.
They're going to sign they're. Going to sign Rogers I think.
If you if you, if they somehow don't then maybe in like late
August I'll stay on Mill Rd. too.
Like I'm not even drafting. They would trade for cousins I
think. And, and Anthony Richardson is
kind of the Mill Rd. bet and like almost certainly will start
some games and, and might might start all 17 games.
It's it's at least possible. And I I don't even want to draft
him at all. So like to me, you know, Melrose
a materially, I mean you could at least say maybe he's better
than Andy Richardson, but like it's probably a similar style of
that with. Like, I think Richardson's like
a way better pick. I think Richardson's a way
better pick than Melrose because the thing with Richardson is, so
he's going now in the one 70s, we're like 10 spots behind ADP.
But like in a situation where he might, you know, be there if you
need that that third quarterback or or whatever is, you know, a
little boost of upside, he gives you kind of upset.
I don't know when he's playing this year and I know he's not
going to play all the games most likely.
But he could spike for you in a really helpful with like he
could be a weirdly good advance rate piece if you use him as a
1/3 quarterback. And then who knows, like he
could be one of the guys who starts for you in in weeks 1516
or 17. So he's so cheap and you don't
have, it's not like this. You're not having to like open
your third eye and see like the Seahawks miss in the playoffs
and Jalen Melrose, their starter now like he's he's just in a
competition with Daniel Jones and they're both going to make
starts this year in the vast majority of of outcomes.
So and when he plays he he scores pretty well.
Tyler Shug, age 43, ought to be 43.
Again, Imagine Aaron Rodgers speaking at your church.
By the way, imagine Aaron Rodger speaking at your church.
Oh God, that would be inseparable.
Let's move to a new church. I'm out.
Zach made some to. Be speaking at the Church of
Scientology. Yeah, Zach made some graphics on
the rookies, just like some spreadsheet stuff.
Want to take a quick look and maybe RIP through these starting
with the running backs ranked by draft capital and then you have
Pat's leg up rankings also shown there.
Age, production, PFF, everything.
Who's the best? What do I want to ask?
Who's the best running back pick?
What? Tooten in early 4 is really fun
and complicated. Yeah, that's very fun.
Tooten was the best pick. Best use of draft capital from
the team, Immediate usage. I also think DJ Giddens.
DJ Giddens was pretty smart. Just why couldn't they have
swapped running backs with the Cowboys though?
Like for sure could have a fun little pass down back.
The Cowboys would get a plausible workhorse.
Oh God. I know it doesn't Cowboys.
Cowboys have a plausible workhorse buddy.
Hey, hey Jacob, where did DJ Giddins go?
Kansas State University. And and where did Jaden Blue go?
Texas, Texas, but but the but Dallas just drafted a running
back from Kansas State last year.
It's just it was a NEPA running back.
I already I've already had one person pull up in my YouTube
comments being like dude, it's Dusvan Susan like dude, his dad
couldn't even make him a thing on a team that couldn't win.
Although we did get one game of the Trey Lance, Dusvan backfield
other I got I. Got another up ranking on on
Jayden Blue, 'cause we gotta have that.
This is ridiculous. That's gotta go way up.
I've got him in the ones I know that I'm in an enviable position
of of not having rankings yet. So I just get to criticize other
people's hard work. It's actually helpful to help.
But like Jayden Blue, like I understand that he isn't really
a running back kind of in the same way we're talking about
Woody Marks. I think he's less not a real
running back than Woody Marks. Like he has some decent metrics
as a runner and he's also really fast and he's legitimately
awesome receiving back. I thought he was the best
receiving back in the class and he's competing with two total
dust balls. And I guess there's still Chubb
out there, there's still Dobbins out there.
I think teams like the bears, I think teams like the Chiefs are
more of a threat to sign those guys.
I think Dallas is like so ambivalent towards the position
that I actually think the most likely, definitely not a
certain, but I would say like in 60 to 70% of scenarios they're
running back depth chart in week 1 is Miles Sanders, Devante
Williams and Jayden Blue and to me, blue should go the highest
of the bunch. I, I'm, I would love to take
that bet on Jayden Blue. Like I know those other guys are
not NFL players at all. If, if Blue is going to go like
at this range, he'd be my highest drafted player in the
whole tournament. Yep.
All right, so I found your argument engaging and convincing
and I actually moved him up into the late one 50s.
But Shope is pulling up a Sporkel.
So I don't think, yeah, Shope's just zoning out playing, playing
Sporkel, so. I was just, I'm just, you know,
planning ahead. Davis didn't get to play map
chase sing last time. That's all we're doing.
I'm listening. I'm.
Listening to the other. I'm listening. 158 I think
because the thing about Blue is I just he's not going to really
add anything for you at the beginning of the season.
I like maybe he is immediately kind of the passing down back,
but I don't know, like they could in a way that like matters
for fantasy. I'm that's the part where I'm
like he he might just he might have to earn it over time and
then what he earns is like not particularly high upside.
He's probably like a rotational guy, but.
Why can't he be Rico Dowdle? You were the Rico Dowdle guy
last. Year he can definitely be Rico
Dowdle, Pat. Why can't he be Tyrone Tracy
from last year, but on the Cowboys?
I think he can be Rico Dowdle too, but isn't that a 20-30
concern? OK, if you Recon that more it
takes until you're 4. Got it.
The more the more legit com is. Like Tyrone Tracy was also kind
of like a more athlete than running back.
Fun kind of profile though. Goes in round five play next to
Singletary. I mean Singletary is better than
Javonte and Miles Sanders and the blue gets to do it on the
Cowboys. Like why?
Why couldn't he be Tracy? Why couldn't he start getting
worse? Dowdell's like 216 lbs.
He he literally weighs 20 lbs more than Blue.
Dowdle was like a Dowdle was built for what Dowdle became.
But Jaden Blue's like a a passing down back.
I don't I don't know. I mean, maybe he could be like
the Bucky. Maybe he's.
He could be he. Yeah, I mean, he's not Bucky,
but like, he could be. Yeah, the problem is he's just
like, not Bucky at all. And.
And Bucky was like, like a better prospect.
But he was one of those guys who who, like, popped in my stuff.
And I was like, yeah, but he's small.
Yeah. Like, I've been rug pulled on
this guy so many times. Blue does not pop.
Blue does not really pop for me at all.
He's he looks like a satellite back.
He doesn't for me either, but like I do think he's, I do think
he's at least good at a thing. Like I, I do think he's
legitimately good passing down back and that that should get
him on the field and on any other backfield.
Like I would be dismissive of him doing anything more than
that. But like, I don't know if it
were my team and it was like, well, my choices are a guy who's
undersized and isn't really an early down back, but he's really
fast and he can catch the ball. Or I can play the worst running
backs in the NFL. And it's like, I would rather
play like the incomplete fast guy than a guy who just had like
3.4 yards per carry behind the league's best ranked run
blocking offensive line. That was a pretty convincing
argument. They did.
I actually. Think.
I actually think I might even rather have vile Sanders than
Javante. I don't understand the Javante
price at all. He was the worst running back in
the league for two years. You guys, the thing that we all
really need to do a better job of is running back points for
these guys who are all at best replacement level are
effectively random and based on the whims of the coaching staff.
So if they just if they want to give the ball to Javonte 210
times, I mean, we're talking about the same coaching staff
that. It's like the argument for Zeke
last year. Right, but Zeke had picked 150
is fine. That's a winning win.
Wasn't. Fine, it wasn't a winning pick.
He did. He did nothing last year.
Well, he got cut. What did?
What did Zeke? What did?
He do. So Zeke, that's only because he
got cut. Zeke totally dead last year, but
if you got his his 2023 stats where he generated 955 yards and
five touchdowns. Perfectly cromulent at at the
prices for any of these guys. It's hard to know, as you're
saying, receivers. I love how Pat was like right
dead in the he's listening to Jacob.
Jacob's making all the, you know, Jaden blue arguments and
everything like that. And then Pat's like, oh, map.
What do you That's what you did? You put it this, I didn't put it
on the screen. Yeah, yeah, I know.
It's like this is really, man, this is.
I hadn't considered this that I just see Sporkle pop up.
You are so ready. I'm.
Listening closer to the show, Let's go where is Tonga?
Where is. Tonga.
Oh God, would you take him? You're not taking him ahead of
like the one 50s though are you? Blue.
Why not? I will take him in the one 50s
here, yeah. I'll take him ahead of that.
I mean, that's right. I got him into the one 50s.
Well, I'll. Take him ahead of that, but I
have to take him ahead of that. I don't have to yet, so I'll do
it. I'll cross that bridge.
That's a blue the the. Argument is simply that we know
Miles Sanders and Javonte have no juice.
Blue's probably a bad player, but he might not be.
He he might. He might.
He's the only one who has any juice, so he's the only one who
has the ability to add anything dynamic to the run game.
And sometimes that's convincing to coaches.
Sometimes it isn't. Wide receivers, we've talked
about a few of them. Not much on what Houston did
with Higgins and Noel. How do you look at that one?
I thought that was, I thought that was smart.
I think Christian Kirk is like the worst pick on the board
right now. And even, well, even if
Christian Kirk starts the year as a starter, is he ending it?
He, he's, he's out, he's out playing both these guys.
I I think very little chance. I do love that Davis is like 2
minutes ago. It's like, look man, I get
Javonte and Miles Sanders are the worst running backs in the
league, but like, they'll probably just keep playing them.
But now it's like, now it's Christian Kirk and you're like,
they got to get this guy off the field.
Like, well, the Texans actually so, so key difference here.
The Cowboys games will have no stakes because they're a bad
team and they'll be out of it. The Texans games are going to
have stakes. These are going to be week a
Week 10 Texans game is going to matter.
The Cowboys are going to have like three wins in Week 10.
Really, I think I'm gonna do, I'm just gonna do what I always
do with the Cowboys. I'm just gonna ping pong.
You know, like 2 years ago, everybody said they were
hopeless and bad and I was all in last year people were like,
oh, it'll be fine. I was like, actually it's pretty
fragile this year. People are hopeless again.
I'm back in on the Cowboys this year.
Like I I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna ping pong with them
Texans. I, I tend to agree.
I think I like, I've always liked Jason Kirk more than it's
is is responsible to do, but. Oh my bad.
Take a look at that. Sorry, Jacob.
Yeah, no, I I agree with Davis. I was giving him a hard time,
but I I agree that Christian Kirk is a high risk pick.
And what, what, what reward are you getting for the risk for
five catches for 61 yards on 1/2 PPR site?
It's probably not probably not worth that risk.
So. So how do they line up?
How do they line up Week 1 on offense?
Kirk slot Collin, Zach Higgins flanker I'm guessing and the
whole is going to have to try to work on.
I mean, Noel has two paths, right?
The paths are well, three I guess.
One is anyone gets injured, 2 is Higgins is a bust so they
eventually let him try it out and then three is he passes
Kirk. Davis, how do you feel about go
ahead? I think that week one could look
like Higgins is out there playing some flanker, kicks into
the slot a little bit, Kirk moves outside, play some flanker
and then Knowles in that mix too.
And you kind of have like Kirk is the functional wide receiver
too with like 70th percent round participation.
And the other guys are like in a committee as they sort of sorted
out Higgins leaving. But like you'd have, as we think
about like the normal ramp up period for rookie wide
receivers, it's usually that it's like a veteran coming down
and a rookie coming up. But like, they could just like
throw both the rookies out there and give them little chunks of
of, you know, combined role in a sense.
Davis, how do you feel about Royals?
I mean, I feel about Royals that there's going to be a lot of
people who are really excited there.
There was a quote going around yesterday where Veitch was like,
oh, you know, Rice working back from an injury.
We're really excited. The top comp in JJ Zakaris and
ZAP prospecting model for Jalen Royals was Rashi Rice.
He's going to be the Chiefs wide receiver, wrote.
Like rotational wide receiver 5. He's not a good pick, but it's
fun. It's fun to think about what if.
You guys may are you guys may have seen.
Wondering if you want to toss a round three dynasty dart at like
a three O 9 I? I don't think he should be a
basketball consideration. I, I would rather, I would
rather like he's. Ripping it up in camp and he's
gonna like I I want to hear good news on.
Him. Oh, you'll get that.
It's the Chiefs. There will be a highlight the
first day. Yeah, I mean it.
Was my Copia or my hopium pick on a Chiefs day three guy on
Burchard Smith? Mm hmm.
You guys see what happened at WGR, my radio station yesterday
where the Bills GM called in and kind of went off.
He was mad. I just saw that.
Yeah, I heard about it. What happened?
So our morning show has been, if you will, driving what they call
the wide receiver train for a few years now.
And we've had many conversations about it, whether the Bills
invest enough, have invested enough at wide receiver.
And I feel like after this draft where they went again, heavy
defense, no wide receiver until pick 240.
And he was hearing criticism of it as he was waiting on hold to
go on for a scheduled appearance.
And he got on and he's like, you guys bitching about this.
I mean, he just he just lost it. And and he's just had it with
people, I guess, talking about how they haven't done more at
receiver. It's that, but also how they've
done with the investments they've made.
That's that's Coleman, that's Kincaid.
And you know, you have the bills trading with Kansas City, where
the Chiefs make the worthy pick, not to mention the Mahomes pick
in 2017. And they've lost to Kansas City
in the playoffs four times in five years.
And I think, you know, he kind of broke yesterday.
Brandon Bean. So it'll that conversation
didn't go away. Yes, yesterday to say the least.
No. It didn't I mean, I think it's a
smart real life pick by by the Chiefs for sure.
I mean Royals is kind of like he's like a gadget guy plus deep
threat. You know, where you're like, I
don't know, does can he be like a real receiver and earn
targets? But gadget player plus deep
threat is like exactly what the Chiefs need, you know?
And I he could start ahead of Hollywood by the end of the
year. That would not shock me.
I would have loved it here. I would have loved it here.
The Bills have drafted 10 dude. Receiver you got 2 developmental
blocking tight ends it's. Fun I know well, and you know
you're. Mad about?
Top 100 picks under this regime One wide receiver, 8 defensive
lineman. What can you do?
One more slide, right? We're not playing fantasy.
Football Shoop. That's what he said, That it's
not. This is not fantasy football,
right? We don't want.
That I I see that you left Kyle Williams off of your sheet, by
the way, I assume that's because you're, you want to.
Yeah, I don't know, CDP for this isn't my sheet.
I was getting criticized. I literally went and checked.
I was like this Kyle Williams. I don't know.
Kyle Williams is here. He's in the ranks.
Not your sheet, all right. Someone else's sheet.
Yeah, Jack, with these together we appreciate.
Kyle Williams, we're ahead on. You won't be surprised to learn
we're ahead on Kyle Williams. That's stunning to me, yeah.
Tight ends quickly Mason Taylor, I mean tight end premium, is he
a first round pick? What?
No.
I've got him pretty, I've got him pretty high.
Pretty close. How come?
How come the Ferg dog isn't higher than Mason Taylor and all
these other guys? Because he might not start.
He's also like was a good start. Tyler Higbee?
No, they're starting tight end. No dude, I I wouldn't be
surprised at all if Higbee just started like the whole year.
That was their first. Ferguson was their first pick of
the draft, Athletic on tight end.
The Rams. The Rams have never, ever not
just jammed in a second round pick to their starting lineup.
That's never. Yeah, that's never happened in
the history of the Rams 22 Atwell, as we know, has been
their starting. Two Atwell famously started
right away. Obviously, Cam Akers and Darrell
Henderson had long careers with the Los.
Angeles. Calling Rams Corum, you know,
great pick last year was a huge part of their playoff run for.
Because it's like a whatever prospect as well, like I he's
not like some great tight end prospect comes in the whole bets
draft capital and they have a guy who plays the position.
I I don't know, I'm kind of I'm kind of unbelievable when I see
a mode on Ferguson is starting like a lot this year.
I think he's maybe he takes over the job at the end of the
season, but it's basketball. I'm not that interested in like
an OK tight end prospect. Kind of honestly, OK is nice.
Maybe starting by the end of the year like it's, I don't know,
Jacob from dynasty. Sorry for dynasty, Jacob.
How do you rank the tight ends after Warren then?
Yeah. So I have Loveland Warren
obviously, and then I have Fan in 3rd but the market decidedly
does not. Yeah, the market.
The market is ready to stuff you in a locker, Jacob.
I, I have, I have. Now I'm thinking about thinking,
well, everybody else doing best Paul ranks.
I I know where my niche bread is buttered.
So I now have a sheet with every conceivable format of dynasty
rankings that you can tab across.
And that that it also includes my market adjusted rankings,
which I will update each day as ADP changes.
So in those I have Ferguson, this tight end 3, because I, I
would like to get some shares of Terrence Ferguson.
And you, you just won't ever get one if you draft Harold Fannon
straight up ahead of him every time.
But then I have Taylor 5 and I have Arroyo 6.
Pat will be pleased to know that he's won the war.
I have Harold Fannon listed as a 3X target exposure player.
It's my highest target exposure of every single player in my
ranking set by a lot. Also because like, I think I
just spent so much time in the Herald fan and echo chamber that
I thought I'd spend like the two O 4 on this guy but I don't.
I can. Get like.
Three O 5 whenever I want and I want.
So he's just my auto pick in the third round every single draft.
I I'm gonna draft this shit out of the Herald fan.
Can he be useful as a rookie? Like, do you think there's
right? Away.
I mean, the Deonte thing complicates it a little bit, but
I assume he's going to get himself put into like a
institution by August 14th and then we don't have to worry
about that. Deonte doesn't complicate
anything. Let's be honest.
This dude's career is over. What is that complicate?
Yeah, yeah. I mean.
Because the I. Asked you A.
Prior to the. I have to leave to go do the
swell cast so you guys can continue arguing.
I did just want. To have a hard last call.
Arande Gadsen. Yeah, my last call, you know.
We can jump to that. It's a, it's a, it's a good bit.
I'll take Arande Gadsen, a fifth round rookie tight end.
Why not? Nice, nice.
Nice, love it. I I gotta go though later boys.
See it? Let's jump to last call.
Davis never thought the show would go this long.
Apparently, no. Just what are we doing?
Look at the clock. What's happened to ADP Chase?
ADP Chasing is back, so map or nomad?
List of who we've taken yet. Oh, we do.
We do. Davis is in with Rhonda Gadsden.
I'm ready unless you guys want to go in front of me.
I I have mine ready. To rock, I always go for show.
Do mine. Prashard Smith.
Prashard Smith, why did I let you go first?
God damn, I asked. I'm glad I asked, not just said
it. Prashard Smith.
I can tell you exactly how the Prashard Smith arc is going to
go. He's going to be drafted at
around pick 200 for a while. Then we're going to get a bunch
of a bunch of content from Chiefs rookie camp about how
great he's doing. It's just going to go up and up
and up and up. Then eventually his ADP is going
to peak at like 141 and then on like August 31st, they'll be
like, we have traded a seventh round pick for Travis Etienne
and then he'll go back down to 200.
Cuz that's that's what happens with every Chiefs back.
They like, they get hyped, they get hyped, they get hyped and
then they they sign someone else's trash at the last minute.
But I was still super pumped to take him.
Now Pat's got it. I got to figure out another
pick. I got to rethink my whole life.
All right, I'm going to. I'm going to build out a little
stack here. I took Troy Franklin.
I'll take Pat Bryant. That's a good one.
All right, Round 3. Timber I'm I'm trying to, I'm
going to commit to the bet. I already took Aaron Rodgers.
I already took Mari Cooper. I was going to take Rashard
Smith, but I I've been backed into a corner.
I have no choice. I'll take Deonte Johnson.
No, take him. Come on, man.
Man, Jack Batch was a good pick. That was nice.
Yeah, I mean, go back and forth, that's the best pick.
I think we start and taking real picks.
I hate my team, but just maybe today it was a I.
Mean, I hate my team too and I but I start I feel better when I
look at your team and Davis's team, but.
Yeah, you should. You should I'm.
Still, I'm eating Aaron Rodgers stock is up after after the
Steelers drafted no one. That makes me think he's going
there. Seems legit, could put up some
points. I think you're the.
Favorite. You know, I got a Martin Cooper
and Deonte Johnson, so that's probably helping you guys out a
little bit more. Good thing we could slow you
down today. Yeah.
All right, Pat, what's the plan for the rest of the week?
I know. Thursday.
Ship chasing Thursday. Ship chasing Thursday?
Yep yeah, and I'm gonna do some streaming in the next few days.
Jumping on doing some some Basketball Mania drafts and and
all that. So so look for that.
You guys were talking about teaming up with Davis for a
dynasty one. Yeah, that's right.
We're do we have a time for that?
We have to figure out we. Don't yet, but we'll we'll
figure that out. It's gonna happen soon.
For sure. And then yeah, we've got best
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legendaryupside.com. Still just 10 bucks a month,
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rankings version, we got a tool called the Sidekick over at
legendaryepisode.com/sidekick. You can check that out as well.
Jacob. Yeah, thinking about thinking,
we're still in rookie mode right now.
So like I said, we have now now updated, we've got overall
honesty rankings update with all the rookies included.
We got super flex, tight end, premium, super flex, non tight
end, premium, one quarterback. We have two tight end rankings.
All of the sicko thinking about things, subscribers have been
nagging me in the comments. When are you going to have two
tight end rankings? We have two tight end rookie
rankings for you absolute sick people.
And then market adjusted ranks, target exposures.
I'm going to have my rookie draft walkthrough posted in a
day or two, which is basically I go through rookie drafts and
target basically pick by pick with ADP where I want to trade
up to down from out of etcetera to sort of build out my target
exposure to the class as a whole.
And then that will kind of conclude the rookie draft season
portion of of dynasty coverage. Then we'll get best ball
rankings up probably this weekend.
OK, you can find me on the Odyssey app hosting at WGR
Sports Radio 550 in Buffalo weekdays from three to seven, as
I've been doing for 22 years at this point.
It's been an eventful week. It was said in the Discord that
our show, or at least our station is the ship chasing of
sports radio. And I took I took that as a
tremendous compliment The I force I force a lot of fantasy
in there. I.
You did have AGM. It's like recent fantasy
football on on. Yeah, yeah.
And when I when I rose up against that, it was like, of
course, show you would. But yeah, I mean, we we do as
much fantasy content as we can. Chris Trapasso will be on with
us tomorrow to recap the draft. So please find me there and I
withdraw my offer to jump in on your Dynasty stream because then
it would be this show. So many shows are often kind of
just other shows. So that's.
You gotta just. You can't.
Have the exact when you when you suggested it, I I originally
forgot that I do have to eventually go to work today and
I was like, well, should we just record till like for four hours?
Just cut it in half and then do the dynasty version?
Let's just crash the swoll cast and we'll do it there.
I know I can't wait to watch it. I know I can't wait to watch it.
All right, thank you, Pat Jacob Davis, thanks everybody for
watching and listening. We will see you next week here
on ADP Chasing.