1 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,280 Morning from Balmy Buffalo. I'm Mike. 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,040 Show temperatures here late April, well into the 70s already 3 00:00:10,120 --> 00:00:12,760 today. Best ball summer indeed. 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:17,680 We've been chastised for not getting to the topic we're 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:21,520 promoting in the thumbnail today. 6 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:24,600 RJ Harvey, Jalen McMillan, risers and fallers. 7 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:26,960 I don't know how we avoid it. I think we're going to make that 8 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:29,440 work today. From the West Coast, Pat 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,320 Kerning, Jacob Sanderson. From the heartland, Davis 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,880 Maddock. Let's go post draft ADP chasing 11 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:40,680 April 29th, 2025. In Underdog Best Ball, ADP is 12 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:43,440 set by two separate yet equally important groups. 13 00:00:43,720 --> 00:00:46,880 Streamers that set the market and the slappies that chase it. 14 00:00:47,080 --> 00:01:17,800 These are their stories. So Pat, so to speak. 15 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Where's the green dot? He he has the green dot made us 16 00:01:21,320 --> 00:01:25,520 use that term today, which means that Pat puts us on the air. 17 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:30,840 Old school I, I, I thought of when I heard that, who would we 18 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,600 all be on a defense? Here's my here's my take. 19 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,800 So Pat wears the green dot. He's the he's the Mike 20 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:37,840 linebacker. He has to be calls the plays. 21 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:43,120 Davis is the small but scrappy, feisty dog in him corner. 22 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:46,480 You know he's the. I'm I'm the 7th corner that only 23 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:47,840 plays when someone else gets hurt. 24 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,600 I'm there to I'm there to be a punt gunner. 25 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:50,280 Oh man, you're on. I'm. 26 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:53,400 I'm. You're on the field in. 27 00:01:53,840 --> 00:01:57,240 The corner man. Jacob, I think is our, is our 28 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,320 lanky edge rusher. You know, he's our Greg 29 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:01,400 Rousseau. For. 30 00:02:01,440 --> 00:02:04,120 Better and I think I'm your run stuffer. 31 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:06,960 Those are the. You're the. 32 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:08,440 You're the. You're the nose guard. 33 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:11,560 Right, I can play well into my 30s. 34 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,200 I can play well into my 30s. You know, I'm just going to sort 35 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:18,240 of take up space and you guys are going to you're. 36 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:20,320 I think we could drop, I think we could drop Jacob back into 37 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:22,720 coverage sometimes. It's got a good understanding 38 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:24,120 of, yeah. I'm versatile, yeah. 39 00:02:24,760 --> 00:02:27,720 He's versatile. The Bills had Mario Williams in 40 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:29,920 2014. You know, he was dominant. 41 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,280 Rex Ryan shows up and he's like, I'm going to want you to play in 42 00:02:32,480 --> 00:02:34,320 coverage sometimes. Like I quit. 43 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,680 Mario just decided I I'm just going to quit football instead. 44 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:41,520 I'm. He quit at halftime like Vontae 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:43,600 or. No, not that bad. 46 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,720 He just sort of played. He he played quit. 47 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,120 I mean, he he was on the field, but he was just like not the 48 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,280 same player anymore. Live quit. 49 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,000 That's what he did. Yeah. 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,880 Dare I risk it? Before we get to everything, can 51 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,120 we talk about Shudder Sanders like I know everybody did. 52 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,920 The dust has settled. It's so interesting though. 53 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,600 I mean, it really was an all time thing that was happening 54 00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:11,640 last weekend. A guy who was once like 1A1B in 55 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:15,160 this draft goes in the fifth round to a team that drafted 56 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,360 somebody way worse. Earlier. 57 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:20,880 Way worse earlier. And way better. 58 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,880 Just probably too small to play in the NFL. 59 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,880 Yeah, that's the thing about Dylan. 60 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,600 Gabriel is like I would if he was 3 inches taller. 61 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,240 I would take him off your door in a heartbeat. 62 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:34,400 Like he wouldn't even be close. Like, he was a way better 63 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,640 college quarterback, right? Like. 64 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,080 That's not even. Controversial to say like he was 65 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:39,720 an infinitely better college quarterback. 66 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:41,880 I think. We can't play in the NFL. 67 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:46,760 Peter Strager backdoored into having the correct take about 68 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,520 all this. He said this on a podcast like a 69 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,000 month ago. I read a transcript of it. 70 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:54,560 But basically the TLDR is everyone in media knows Dion and 71 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:58,240 likes Dion, has worked with Dion NFL Network, they all they all 72 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:01,360 like him. No one wanted to be the first 73 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:05,080 person put Chadur down. No one wanted to be the first 74 00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,880 person to put out a mock no Chadur in the first round. 75 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:12,200 And the way we consume draft coverage, no one actually knows 76 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:13,520 right? I don't know anything about 77 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,880 these guys. You don't you know, we got a 78 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:18,040 report that the Browns Jaguars trade was in place since April 79 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:19,760 7th never leaked out of the building. 80 00:04:19,760 --> 00:04:21,680 That just shows how little we know. 81 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:25,080 Think the real answer is he probably is like a third round 82 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,080 Malik Willis style talent. The interviews were really bad. 83 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,360 And this is the, you know, what's funny is that the the 84 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,720 analogy is Tebow where it's like, sure, Tebow, if you could 85 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,400 have Tim Tebow in your organization as your third 86 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:41,160 quarterback, your Taysom Hill or whatever. 87 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,080 And he wasn't Tim Tebow and no one cared. 88 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,680 And he was just if he was Chris Streveller, you'd love to have 89 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,560 him. You'd you'd love to have him in 90 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:51,080 the building, but it's just not the way it works. 91 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,720 It's a distraction. It's annoying. 92 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:55,360 We're going to, I mean, this is going to, this is going to 93 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:58,240 happen all offseason, which the, you know, the number one things 94 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,480 to fancy is going to be asked about at every press conference. 95 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,920 Is his. Freaking quarterback 5 is is 96 00:05:04,920 --> 00:05:07,360 going to be the thing he spends the most time discussing with 97 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,880 Cleveland media, I mean. I watched that press conference. 98 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,600 I was curious to see how how that would go after day three. 99 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,640 And it was it was all shudor questions. 100 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:19,000 It was the media was calling it a blockbuster pick and they were 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,880 like, we do not consider this a blockbuster pick. 102 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:24,800 We took the quarterback in the fifth round like that's not 103 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,600 block, but like they were, they were clearly hoping that the 104 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:31,400 fifth round capital would kind of mute some of the the noise 105 00:05:31,400 --> 00:05:32,520 around this. It won't. 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:35,280 Entirely. It will a little, though. 107 00:05:35,280 --> 00:05:39,800 I mean, you know, Chador as a second round pick will come with 108 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:41,320 more of a circus than he will as a fifth round. 109 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:42,880 He's still going to come with a circus, but. 110 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,840 Yeah, I mean. I think he was never like 111 00:05:47,840 --> 00:05:51,080 clearly he was never a first rounder, but I don't think it 112 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:53,120 was that he was always a fifth rounder. 113 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:56,200 I think he he thought he was like a top five pick. 114 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,440 They literally said we have a list. 115 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,240 We have a list of two. We'll let you know if you're on 116 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,880 the list. There's a list of teams We're 117 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:05,840 not down to play for every team. And then later they were like 118 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:07,480 pretty much everyone's on the list. 119 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:11,040 But but like they came in with an attitude of like this. 120 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:15,200 You know, we're going to kind of use the leverage that we have to 121 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:19,120 help dictate where he goes. You know, like like Eli Manning, 122 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,440 you know, force on his way to the giants or whatever. 123 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,240 And I just I think that, you know, we know that's going to 124 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,240 rub them like super the wrong way. 125 00:06:27,840 --> 00:06:31,720 So that to me, to me, he's got to be like a second third round 126 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:36,080 talent. I mean, the media had him as 127 00:06:36,080 --> 00:06:41,600 kind of, you know, probably like in the 20s or the 30s, but they 128 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:45,920 had Ward to start in like the teens and they had Dart usually 129 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:49,680 behind Chidor. So from a talent perspective, I 130 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:52,080 don't buy that he was a day free guy. 131 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,240 I mean, this has to be some of the other stuff. 132 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:57,960 Pat, I think your mic input is wrong by the way, OK. 133 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:00,520 Thank you. Or maybe you're just not 134 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:05,080 speaking into it. I think if you just put Shidor 135 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:10,280 in Garrett Nussmayer's body or whatever, I think A-Team 136 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,240 probably takes him in the second round. 137 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,960 I would just just off the accuracy, just off, just off the 138 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:19,600 ability that he is so, so accurate. 139 00:07:19,840 --> 00:07:27,240 But that is just a willful, willful ignorance of the 140 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,720 situation because that is just not the way it works. 141 00:07:29,720 --> 00:07:34,920 Like you know, it is what it is. Yeah, Yeah. 142 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:37,040 I mean, I agree with pretty much everything you guys are saying. 143 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,600 I mean, I was pretty vocal that I thought he sucked as a 144 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:45,000 quarterback prospect. I think that was relative to 145 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,280 where he was projected to go. So I thought he had no business 146 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:52,160 being a first round prospect, but I, yeah, I mean, I wanted 147 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:57,280 the Colts to take him on Day 2. So I I thought he was like worth 148 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:59,360 a shot from that perspective for sure. 149 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Don't we think they should have? Like it's kind of crazy that 150 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:04,160 they didn't. No, I, I do, I was, I was like 151 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:07,800 completely losing my mind all over the timeline for. 152 00:08:07,920 --> 00:08:09,360 I'm on stuff in their garage, right? 153 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Now you know what I actually. Wanted them to take. 154 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:13,120 I mean I wanted them to take mill row even more. 155 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:16,200 Ballard should be fired. Ballard should literally be 156 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:17,240 fired for not. Well, yeah. 157 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:18,920 I mean I. Yeah, give it, of course, give 158 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:22,600 it, give it six months. I just, I think, I think The 159 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:29,040 Jets, I think the Colts, I think the Browns, I think all these 160 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,039 front offices I don't give AI actually don't really care about 161 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:36,480 about sure, I think they should all be given their walking 162 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:42,320 papers for not taking mill row. Yeah, I mean, they they, they 163 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,080 won't be. But I agree it was it was like a 164 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,200 a really dumb bet. They had the chance to take 165 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,600 Milro or Chader and they they were like, what if we took the 166 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:56,480 194th player on the big board who plays like he'll be our 167 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:59,840 sixth string corner? It's just clear the NFL does not 168 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,360 like the NFL does not think probabilistically about the 169 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,520 quarterback position. No, you know, like I feel like. 170 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:08,600 Fantasy do YouTube actually. Fantasy industry is actually 171 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,560 YouTube commenters do not think probabilistically. 172 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,680 No, they that's that's. The YouTube commenters that have 173 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:18,640 been in my kitchen about my chador takes for months like 174 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:21,120 hell half no fury man like you guys. 175 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,360 You guys don't, don't show your. Face man, you could, that's the 176 00:09:24,360 --> 00:09:26,320 other, but I honestly think that played into it. 177 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,120 You you're talking about Dion and how, you know, that was an 178 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,160 interesting point. I hadn't considered that, but I, 179 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:35,920 you know, even doing fantasy shows, I know that if you talk 180 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,240 about your door, you're going to get a lot of hate if you're not 181 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,040 positive about this prospect. Oh, for sure. 182 00:09:45,280 --> 00:09:46,840 Yeah. I wonder how much that factored 183 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:49,280 in honestly that like. I think it factored in a lot. 184 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:53,680 I think it factored in a lot. And it becomes, it becomes a 185 00:09:53,680 --> 00:09:56,600 reinforcing thing like once a few people that probably have a 186 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,600 pretty negative end opinion of shit or don't share their 187 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:03,760 opinion, then you start to be like, like, I would say like I, 188 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:06,400 I let it fly a little bit more on YouTube shows. 189 00:10:06,400 --> 00:10:10,440 But like, at the risk of looking ridiculous, like I would say I 190 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,720 was far more cautious in my like written write up of what I 191 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,400 thought should have was the prospect that I was like on this 192 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,560 program, for instance, where it's like, well, like if he goes 193 00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:22,200 the first round, like I like I, I should have just written. 194 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,840 There's no way in hell this guy should ever be drafted the first 195 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:26,880 round. But like I felt like I played 196 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:29,800 way more with kid gloves talking about Shudder than I did about 197 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,960 like Tyler Shug where I was like, this is ridiculous. 198 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,040 So it's like a level of like, I think it's just you watch 199 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,440 something and then even if you come to an opinion, if no one 200 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,720 else is, is like as stringent in their opinion or at least 201 00:10:42,720 --> 00:10:44,960 willing to be, then you kind of like you're like, maybe I'm the 202 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:47,560 one that's that's wrong. So I'm going to be more 203 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:52,440 cautious. But yeah, I think the NFL is 204 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:53,960 something probabilistly about quarterbacks. 205 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:57,320 They they sort guys and like realistically every NFL team 206 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,520 should be viewing these guys as like a range of outcomes where 207 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,720 like a percentage chance at the time they're like an all pro and 208 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,600 a percentage chance at the time they're a mid level franchise. 209 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,920 Quarterback at the grade they give them, they give these guys 210 00:11:08,920 --> 00:11:11,640 grades and then I think they're like, that's what it is, you 211 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:13,720 know, to an extent. Exactly, you know, and it's 212 00:11:13,720 --> 00:11:14,240 like. Well, we're not. 213 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:16,960 Going to take a as a range. Third string quarterback. 214 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:19,800 We don't need one of those. It really, it really is like. 215 00:11:19,800 --> 00:11:22,160 This guy's a franchise quarterback or this guy's not, 216 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:24,880 but once you're in the knot bucket, they don't care because 217 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:26,640 they're like, well. Once you're in the once you're 218 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,960 in the yes bucket, they'll be like the Titans wouldn't trade 219 00:11:30,960 --> 00:11:31,840 off. It's like he's a franchise 220 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:32,920 quarterback. We're going to take like a 221 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,200 million first for him. We'd rather have a franchise 222 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,200 quarterback. I think exactly. 223 00:11:37,560 --> 00:11:40,440 I think the point about the Colts and first of all, Jacob, 224 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,000 you mentioned it, the Colts drafting instead 1/6 string 225 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:45,520 corner. Davis Maddock, welcome to the 226 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,640 Indianapolis Colts. I mean that that happened fast, 227 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,640 but congratulations on that. It it. 228 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:55,080 Really is the point about the Browns press conference is 229 00:11:55,080 --> 00:11:58,400 almost the whole thing. Does Shane Steik, and he's got 230 00:11:58,400 --> 00:12:00,440 so much in his garage to deal with already. 231 00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:03,200 Does he need a new, you know, load of dirt or something like 232 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:05,000 this? He gets those same questions. 233 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,520 They can't handle that Like they they don't know what they have. 234 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,800 I I think Stefanski can. He's two time coach of the year. 235 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:14,720 He's got his veteran, he's got his mid and he's got now 2 236 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:16,640 rookies. I don't know, I kind of trust 237 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,240 that and it probably won't work, but. 238 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:21,480 It's not gonna. Work I it probably won't work, 239 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,440 but but the the point is that you should still make the bet, 240 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,520 right? I mean, even though it probably 241 00:12:26,560 --> 00:12:28,000 won't work, you should still make the bet. 242 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:30,120 I I have no problem with what the Browns did. 243 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,280 I mean I guess I have a problem with taking Dilton Gabriel 244 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:35,120 first. But like All in all, if I have a 245 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,360 problem with the Browns drafts, if they took 2 fucking running 246 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:39,840 backs, I have no problem with the Browns taking 2 247 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:41,760 quarterbacks. That is like, I agree, should 248 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,560 do. You know, The funny thing is 249 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:47,120 about the draft, though, because I was listening to, I forget who 250 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:52,000 I was listening to, but they're talking about how like teams, so 251 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:53,440 teams do all the work on the court. 252 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,120 So which teams, it might have been brutal. 253 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:57,600 It's like which teams did all the work on the quarterback? 254 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,240 He's like the Browns did. The Browns did all the work, you 255 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,480 know, all the interviews and they, they, they met with all 256 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,240 these guys a bunch of times. So when it comes back around on 257 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,280 the 5th, they've already made, they've already taken their bet 258 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:12,400 with with Gabriel, but they definitely had Shadour on their 259 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:16,240 board and he had to be the top guy probably by a decent margin. 260 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,040 So they go ahead and take him. But the problem is, you know, 261 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:24,120 you're thinking like, oh, right, a bunch of teams like never did 262 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:27,680 the work on the quarterbacks because they didn't expect him 263 00:13:27,680 --> 00:13:31,000 to be there because he wasn't a day three prospect. 264 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:33,360 He was like a day 2 prospect who falls to day three. 265 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,320 So then you get to day three and there's a bunch of teams who 266 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,440 like literally don't have them on their board. 267 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,440 And when you know, they're like, we trust our board, we go by our 268 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:43,800 board. They're like, they're like, 269 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,520 what's Shidor doing here? Where does he fit? 270 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,760 Like they did never prepped. Like, like probably like 2/3 of 271 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:52,880 the teams in the league were like Shidor. 272 00:13:53,680 --> 00:13:56,320 I don't know, let's just take the next guy on our board. 273 00:13:56,800 --> 00:14:00,120 I like I like that the Browns made it their last pick, even 274 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:01,680 though it's early in the fifth round, too. 275 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:03,920 Like we're all exhausted. Let's just do this and get out 276 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,640 of here. You know, the guy in your 277 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:08,400 fantasy draft who was like, I don't care, just auto for me. 278 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,360 I'm done. I'm too tired, It's too late. 279 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:13,320 The bounce kind of had that that look, too. 280 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:16,520 I wonder when they decided, I mean when they picked Gabriel 281 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:17,840 did they have this this thought in? 282 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,880 Mind Jimmy Haslam gave them a call and they're saying Sanders. 283 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,600 Well, that was maybe late Friday night then or very late Friday 284 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,280 night when that call might have been placed and. 285 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,840 So you're saying this is the last pick of the draft show, but 286 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,600 this might be the last pick of the regime. 287 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,440 I might if I never pick again. You had Andrew. 288 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,640 Barry and Kevin Stefanski, like I'm thinking like in Madden, 289 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,600 when they pan out to the crowd like Madden, like 2007 and you 290 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,280 get the little AI guys doing like these weird claps. 291 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,520 That was like what Andrew Barry and Kevin Stefanski were doing 292 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,960 after they clapped from the Shiner pick. 293 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,800 It's like we are robotically. Clapping for our. 294 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:54,600 Selection it did look like that. It did look like that in the 295 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,240 Browns room, the rooms, the rooms being different was kind 296 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,360 of a fun thing, always just a fun thing with the draft. 297 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,280 Like there's the Big Bear hug teams. 298 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:05,160 The Lions are all wearing the general managers college jersey, 299 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,120 you know, very collegial kind of scene there and others are sort 300 00:15:08,120 --> 00:15:09,600 of like I think I'm supposed to clap now. 301 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:14,560 I think this I think good pick, good pick, good pick Is Sanders 302 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:21,400 pet draftable in BBM if dart. No, no, Dart's draftable. 303 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:24,240 I mean, who's? The Brown starting quarterback 304 00:15:24,240 --> 00:15:26,840 those weeks? I have no idea I. 305 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:29,800 Mean, I think probably should know Sanders would be the 306 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:33,120 plurality choice. That's not enough. 307 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:37,480 I don't need it's, it's not redraft like I need to know, I 308 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,640 need to be like confident that this dude's starting in week 17. 309 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:42,880 You you take 3 quarterbacks at most. 310 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,760 So I'm going to take one of those is going to be a guy where 311 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,400 I'm like, I don't know, maybe he'll play. 312 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,000 And if he does be probably bad, I'm like, why? 313 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,120 He's not he's not going to he's not going to run with Deonte. 314 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,080 So he's he's not going to run. The Browns are going to the 315 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,560 Browns are going to be bad. So you're like, all right, I'm 316 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:05,360 taking the Browns pass only quarterback instead of Dart, who 317 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:09,440 was a first rounder who runs, who has backdoor stacking 318 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:13,760 options, right, You could take Slayton or Theo Johnson after 319 00:16:14,400 --> 00:16:19,040 it's it's I I I don't have Chadur ranked in my top like I 320 00:16:19,040 --> 00:16:21,280 didn't. I ranked 250 guys. 321 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:21,880 I did not. Rank. 322 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:24,080 I won't have a single Browns quarterback ranked when I 323 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:25,960 haven't posted. I might take Flacco. 324 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,280 I I could I could potentially be convinced to take a Flacco as a. 325 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,160 Quarterback, I just don't think it'll I, I assume that. 326 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:32,880 I convinced you not to take Flacco. 327 00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:35,960 No, don't take Flacco. I assume for the first half of 328 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,800 the year that it's probably going to be 1 of or both of 329 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,120 Flacco and Pickett. And for the second-half of the 330 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,680 year, it's probably going to be 1 of or both of Gabriel and 331 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,920 Sanders. But like they, they might play 332 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:49,440 all four of them at some point. Like they're, they're at least 333 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:51,040 going to play I think two or three. 334 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,240 And I don't know who's going to be in the chair at the end. 335 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:55,840 And probably all of them will suck. 336 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,880 So like, yeah, I, I think it's just friends don't let friends 337 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:01,360 draft the Cleveland Browns this year. 338 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:02,600 You could take. I think I was going to take 339 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:06,720 anybody it, it would be Gabriel, honest to God, because that's 340 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,319 the guy they believe in like Shidor, they don't even believe 341 00:17:09,319 --> 00:17:13,359 in so. But Gabriel might run a little 342 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,520 bit, yeah. It's like a smidgen, yeah. 343 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:17,400 I'm still not gonna take Gabriel. 344 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,160 Yeah, we don't have any of these guys in the top 250. 345 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,920 I mean, it's two weeks to the schedule. 346 00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:29,160 Davis Browns at Lions Week 17. I mean, I don't know. 347 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,000 That's not, that's a, that's a possibility. 348 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:35,200 I still I still I mean I truly I I would rather take bill row 349 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:38,760 unstacked, uncorrelated. I would, yeah. 350 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:43,560 Yeah, of course, of course. I won't do that but. 351 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:47,360 There's a bet here like it's OK, It's it's like, it's not a 352 00:17:47,360 --> 00:17:49,960 parlay. Like Sam Darnold stinks. 353 00:17:50,120 --> 00:17:52,920 No row plays. No row has a fantasy profile 354 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,960 that will score points. So you just have to you're 355 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,200 betting against Sam Darnold playing well and you're betting 356 00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,480 against Seahawks making the playoffs. 357 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:07,080 Like that's I'm not taking Noro, but like OK, darts, darts is 358 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,560 going to play this year. Darts is playing. 359 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,200 So you're you're going to get starts from dart. 360 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:16,080 And that's just basically, does he play well enough to make the 361 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:17,920 pick worth it? Because he's not going to play 362 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:19,760 most of the year, but he'll play the end of the year. 363 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,440 So is he good enough to be worth having in the playoff weeks? 364 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,400 But that's a, you know, a reasonable bet at his price. 365 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:29,200 These other guys, I just don't see the point. 366 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,000 You just, you're the vast majority of the time you're just 367 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:35,680 putting a 0 in your lineup. Yeah. 368 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,080 I prefer my zeros with style points. 369 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:41,640 Agree. I'd I'd rather take Damien 370 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:45,080 Martinez, you know, and just lock in that zero you. 371 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:50,560 Know Land Larrison Land Larrison season Tyler Warren. 372 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:55,040 Jacob. That's awesome. 373 00:18:55,120 --> 00:18:57,840 Pretty good. Lynn Less less than MVS got from 374 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,280 the Bills. Less than JK Dobbins got from 375 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,680 the Chargers. Even that as we open up the 376 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,120 slides. Welcome back Zach. 377 00:19:06,120 --> 00:19:07,560 Good to have you. Good to hear things are turning 378 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:11,320 up in your your family. Tyler Warren to the Colts. 379 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,880 I know I watched even was on Colts chasing on on Thursday 380 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,040 night. But here we go. 381 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,520 We've got, we've got the Spider Man meme going. 382 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:22,400 Five guys. There's Tyler Warren. 383 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,880 He's he's, he's a faller. I like the I like how much 384 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:28,640 bigger woods is than the rest. I really enjoy that. 385 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,960 That's good. Where's MO Alley? 386 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:38,360 Where's MO Alley Cox? MO Alley Cox has been forgotten. 387 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:39,640 He's. Yeah, he's still think he 388 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,480 couldn't make the graphic. Well, no. 389 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,240 Granson is gone now. I think Granson is a Jaguar, 390 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,200 maybe, but MO Alley's still there, you know? 391 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,520 Yeah, MO Alley will always be there, like in In a Nuclear 392 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:54,200 Apocalypse. All that will be left is the 393 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:57,680 cockroaches and the MO Ali cogs. Kylie Granson plays for the 394 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,400 Eagles now. So when Dallas Goddard gets 395 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,680 traded. Kyle Granson, Susan. 396 00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:04,560 Wow. But. 397 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:09,520 Nevertheless. Yeah, I mean, I I love, I've 398 00:20:09,640 --> 00:20:12,400 totally talked myself into the Tyler Warren pick in real life 399 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:14,760 already. I've gotten there in the first 400 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:15,840 yard. I was kind of like disappointed 401 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,960 because I wanted Loveland more, but now I'm all in. 402 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,920 So that's good. Not great for fantasy. 403 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,120 Still can't can't really talk myself into that one. 404 00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:27,880 Give me another week though. I probably will. 405 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,200 But yeah, I think they mostly picked Tyler Warren to run the 406 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:35,080 ball better from 11 personnel. I think they, they didn't like 407 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:38,880 that they had like either totally non pass catching viable 408 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:42,760 tight ends or only pass catching viable tight ends who still 409 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,320 weren't that good of fast catchers. 410 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,400 And so they're kind of trapped in the spot where they, they 411 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,840 kind of only run the ball last year from heavy personnel, but 412 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,640 they didn't want to be in heavy personnel cuz. 413 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,760 And you have to take Josh Downs off the field and he's the best 414 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,480 wide receiver. And so they want to keep Josh 415 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,400 Downs on the field all the time. They want to play 11 all the 416 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,960 time, and they want to be able to run or pass out of 11. 417 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,080 And so Tyler Warren, I think, can end this tight end 418 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,040 committee. If there's like one piece of 419 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,200 thought I've seen on Warren that I actually do disagree with, 420 00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:11,160 it's the idea that they're still going to have this committee. 421 00:21:11,160 --> 00:21:14,000 I think that they explicitly drafted Tyler Warren to not have 422 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:15,680 a tight end committee. I think he's going to play like 423 00:21:15,680 --> 00:21:17,640 90% of the snaps almost immediately. 424 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:23,480 Unfortunately, they're going to throw like 470 passes and then 425 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:26,480 about 120 of them will be completely uncatchable. 426 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:34,960 So if you like 71 targets at a 4.7 A dot from extremely poor 427 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,360 accuracy quarterbacks, you're going to love Tyler Warren. 428 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,720 Yeah, I mean, I don't believe they'll have a committee either. 429 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,040 They're going to play Warren and Warren's good. 430 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:48,520 So he'll he'll dust these guys and they'll have a stuffed 431 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,440 design form as well. I don't know, from the real life 432 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:55,080 perspective, isn't MO Ali Cox a better run blocker or whatever 433 00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,200 like or whoever? No, he's one of these guys. 434 00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,280 Kind of not. He's just so unfluent. 435 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:01,440 Like he's big and bulky but he's just useless. 436 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,120 Next question. Yeah, Oh my God. 437 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,400 I don't know. He's a decent blocker like 438 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,000 Mollie Cox. Then I thought that's what he 439 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:12,120 was for. No one. 440 00:22:12,120 --> 00:22:16,760 Understands how Ali Cox, he's a decent blocker if it's like like 441 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,200 we attach another tight end of the line and he just has to 442 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,760 block in a phone booth. But if he's like the last guy on 443 00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:26,360 the line, then like he's just so slow that like you could just 444 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:30,920 kind of run around him. I'll, I'll let you bet this -110 445 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:35,240 either side more receptions, Dawson Knox or Tyler Warren. 446 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,920 Warren, Warren, Warren didn't have more sessions. 447 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,160 Yeah, that's the other thing. And I said this on cold cases. 448 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,160 In hater Warren. Well, we're so Brett Jones is 449 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,720 saying we have him behind Kincaid. 450 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,120 It's like, yeah, 'cause we're trying to help people win money, 451 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,400 you know, like he's gonna wait. Kincaid's not very good. 452 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:56,360 He's gonna grab Dalton Kincaid. That's that's incongruent. 453 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:59,080 Before. Warren, we're assuming 72 or 454 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:03,600 more catches for Dalton Kincaid. No, no, I said 71 targets. 455 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,680 Targets right. Give me give me the over on 456 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:11,120 Kincaid. Yeah, I mean, I think, I think 457 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:14,800 with Warren, the nice thing is, and I said this the other night, 458 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,960 as much as the Colts do have other weapons, they don't have 459 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,680 any other Yak weapons. So they're gonna get a lot of 460 00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,840 scheme stuff to Warren. They're gonna give him RPO tight 461 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,840 end screens. I don't know. 462 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:30,320 I'm excited to see where he falls in drafts cuz I I could 463 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,800 talk myself into it at a given price, but yeah he's gonna need 464 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,960 to fall considerably from where he from where he was. 465 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:37,120 Before he's just, it's been this way. 466 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,760 He's in a funny spot right between, of all people, Kelsey 467 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,280 and Andrews. One O 410-5106. 468 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,720 It's funny that like he's sort of sandwiched in between the 469 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,040 two. I don't know Legends in terms of 470 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,840 Andrews, probably strong. Significantly behind Kelsey and 471 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:51,560 Andrews. By the way, thanks NFL for all 472 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,760 the veteran trades. We were we were hyped up for on 473 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,600 on the weekend. I mean, Jalen Ramsey, obviously, 474 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,880 Breece Hall, Goddard Andrews, thanks for all the action. 475 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,040 It was fun. Pickens. 476 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,280 Pickens. Kenneth Walker. 477 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:10,760 That happens in hockey. Fuck chasing quota achieved 478 00:24:10,760 --> 00:24:12,200 every year. The insiders are all like, 479 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,520 there's going to be all this at the deadline and there's nothing 480 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:19,200 ever. All right, Risers and fallers. 481 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:25,040 So the big one is RJ Harvey after the Denver pick. 482 00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:29,800 There's Chase Brown, who did pretty well, Ted McMillan, 483 00:24:30,360 --> 00:24:33,240 Ashton Gente, Travis Hunter, Jack Besh. 484 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:37,600 Great result for him with the Raiders, Trey Harris with the 485 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,720 Chargers. You guys are total cowards. 68 486 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:42,920 RJ Harvey. Those are rookie numbers. 487 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,720 Got to get that up I. Mean. 488 00:24:46,400 --> 00:24:48,760 I think it should be like a fourth round pick. 489 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:54,520 Yeah, I I think that is way too far because there's just roughly 490 00:24:54,520 --> 00:25:01,120 no chance that Week 1, maybe even Week 5, Harvey is like 491 00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:03,200 clearly dominating the other guy's not. 492 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,920 Pick that bat. It. 493 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:06,600 Yeah, sure. I mean, I'll, I'll bet. 494 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:10,800 The other guys in the backfield are asked, Audrick estimate No. 495 00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,360 Julian McLaughlin, role player RJ Harvey. 496 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,640 Awesome. And he's already a veteran, so. 497 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,840 This might actually be because you're. 498 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,920 This might actually be because you're too young, but. 499 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,400 How dare you? He, Helen, lived like Davis. 500 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,720 Sean Payton. Sean Payton used to say stuff 501 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:29,640 dead ass. He'd look you in the face and 502 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,200 say the only thing holding Mark Ingram back is me, and then 503 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,880 absolutely changing nothing about his behavior and continue. 504 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,920 To give. Every other running back more 505 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:41,240 like those of you following at home. 506 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:47,600 Guess Mark Ingram's first 1000 yard season after being the 28th 507 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:49,880 overall pick by the New Orleans football. 508 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:51,120 Team. Didn't they like have the 509 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:53,720 running backs on the team when they drafted Mark? 510 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,640 Ingram No, he still. Around Bush. 511 00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:58,520 He was with the Saints, but it was like year 4 or five. 512 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,960 It was late. It was it was year 4, so here 513 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:05,160 are some other running backs who got the ball over Mark Ingram. 514 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,240 Chris Ivory. You guys remember Chris Ivory? 515 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,000 Chris Ivory was kind of good. Former Bill. 516 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,800 Chris Ivory was kind of good. We of course. 517 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:19,320 Who could forget the 156105 touch distribution between Mark 518 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:23,120 Ingram and Pierre Thomas? Obviously, no one. 519 00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,120 Pierre Thomas. All right. 520 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:29,680 Do we remember Jed Collins? Does anyone remember Jed 521 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,960 Collins? I got Jed Collins Jersey. 522 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,760 Does anyone remember? You sound like you sound like 523 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,000 Jed Collins is lost at Walmart and your mom paging him. 524 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:40,640 Where? Where Paging Jed Collins. 525 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:47,000 Jed Collins is so good. Yeah, I of course, I of course 526 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:51,360 am on board with the concept of RJ Harvey. 527 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,800 And I took him I think 2 out of my 3 drafts yesterday. 528 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,640 I've got no pushback. But this idea that RJ Harvey is, 529 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:05,640 is like locked into 232 rushes, 62 receptions. 530 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:09,440 It's at I I'm extremely skeptical of. 531 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,480 That here's why this is a. This is a good one getting that. 532 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,960 And not cowardly, OK, This is why let me defend the rank the 533 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:18,960 first, first of all. So you got you jump in drafts 534 00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:23,240 and he will go on the fifth round, but I've also seen him 535 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:25,160 and I've been on the wrong side of the board where I didn't take 536 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,880 him in the early 6th, but then he goes in the mid 7th. 537 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,200 So he's going after this ranking a decent amount of the time. 538 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:33,840 I've only done 2. I haven't had a chance to grab 539 00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:36,800 him. You also now have like the 540 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:40,280 there's there's a analyst pushback on the slappies. 541 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,080 You got the slappies are in the draft and they're like I'm 542 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,440 taking this guy in the fourth round. 543 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:46,880 I'm taking this. This this guy Audrey 544 00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:47,880 Guesstimate. No. 545 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:49,520 Julian McLaughlin. No. 546 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:51,040 That's what the slappers are doing do. 547 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:51,880 You. Remember. 548 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,360 Do you remember when we were? Do you guys remember when we 549 00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:55,960 were all excited? I was like, I got to get him in 550 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,000 the fourth, he's going to be going in the third in a week. 551 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,040 We were all excited about the Broncos backfield and then we 552 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:06,880 relearned the name Tyler today. No, we were actually wrong, but 553 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:10,440 we were right. Javonte Williams was fifth in 554 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:14,240 the NFL and targets last year. He had 70 targets and he was 555 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,760 turbo ass like he he was just you're so unbelievably washed 556 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,960 that that made the bet wrong, but the bet should have been 557 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,040 right. And then Peyton was like, I, I'm 558 00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:29,800 my running backs have rendered me so incapable of using the 559 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:31,920 backfield the way I want to. I need to go get a good running 560 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:33,600 back. And they've only gotten one. 561 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,640 They only added one and it's RJ Harvey and he's awesome and 562 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:38,640 they're going to give him the ball immediately and they're 563 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,320 going to keep giving him the ball and he's going to score all 564 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,200 the fantasy points. I just I'm. 565 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,520 Trying to be. The ranking here that we have 566 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,960 is, is, I believe on the higher end of what, of what rankings 567 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:50,640 are. So you're like, here's what I 568 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:51,680 think. I mean, there's gonna be a bit 569 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,520 of push back the slappies. I mean, these slappies are, are 570 00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:56,880 slapping so hard. They're gonna be done. 571 00:28:56,880 --> 00:29:00,040 They're they're gonna have 150 by the middle of June like 572 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,520 these. And we know, we know the normal 573 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,960 drafters come in Leone. I was talking as we were doing 574 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,760 the the handover on on basketball breakfast yesterday. 575 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,080 He was. Sure, he's being cowardly about 576 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:14,720 this. Well, you know, he's being 577 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:19,040 Leone, let's say that. But no, I think I think he was 578 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,680 saying that on on at established to run. 579 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,920 They were like, Oh my God, we're behind on every rookie. 580 00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:25,400 And then the middle of the summer happened and they're 581 00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,840 like, Oh my God, we're ahead on every rookie. 582 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,160 The rookies. It used to be the case. 583 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:31,840 You you dove in and you could get really cheap prices on the 584 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:36,040 rookies like across the board. We don't really live in that 585 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,600 environment now. It's like already RJ Harvey, the 586 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,720 very first drafts, he's going in the fifth round. 587 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:44,560 If anything, RJ Harvey will actually be cheaper as we move 588 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:46,520 to the summer. Like if you want to get a bag of 589 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:50,320 RJ Harvey, I bet you that you can get some 80s RJ Harvey later 590 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,520 in the summer. I don't think he's going to. 591 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,640 I mean, he's an undersized running back. 592 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:57,000 There's going to be talk of estimate getting the early down 593 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,120 work. I know it's crap. 594 00:29:58,120 --> 00:29:59,640 I'm not going to buy into it, but. 595 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,840 I just think that Nathan Yankee Jaleel McLaughlin has taken the 596 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,600 first snap for the Denver Broncos pre season week one 597 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,720 tweet. Oh, that's gonna hit like crack. 598 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:13,720 Yeah, I bet I bet you he he's gonna Nick P says legit 0%. 599 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,040 I bet you there's some 80s. There's probably already been 80 600 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,840 Harveys. Yeah, you've already lost this 601 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,320 bet. Yeah, I've. 602 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:23,520 Already. I've already taken Harvey in in 603 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:28,720 the 80s now. Yeah, he had a wide. 604 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,080 Range of outcomes yesterday because his opening ADP was like 605 00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:33,720 100. And 50? 606 00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:37,000 Sure, sure, sure. So like in, in a couple of days 607 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:39,960 like then he's going to have like a stabilized ADP and then 608 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,080 we're we're going to see what happens. 609 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,720 You're you're going to get him in the 80s when Peyton says that 610 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:45,720 Jaleel McLaughlin is still the starter. 611 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,040 Like just pace yourself, you. Know Davis? 612 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:53,240 Who's on the roster? Blake Watson, a really who's 613 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,880 going to be who's going to be active for kick returns? 614 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,400 That's on your ADP chasing bingo. 615 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:05,280 You don't get Davis. It's like I all I all I want to 616 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,720 make sure of is that I have 150 different configurations of RJ 617 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:11,320 Harvey best Ball Mania teams, right I'm. 618 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:14,320 Trying to draft like Leone. Flavors around RJ Harvey. 619 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,400 Yeah, I can't. I I don't want to imagine a 620 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:19,600 world where any of my best Ball Mania entries don't have RJ 621 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,240 Harvey. That would be an unjust world. 622 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,160 Well, fair enough. I'm. 623 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920 Trying to draft 24 is going on 25 years old. 624 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,080 That's why I have to draft him in best ball because I can't get 625 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:32,600 to his dynasty price in dynasty. I'm the coward because I'm like, 626 00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,000 I'm like, I really want to draft this 24 year old rookie running 627 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,240 back who I'm in love with, who was like my third favorite real 628 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:44,240 life rookie running back. But I'm like, I can't actually 629 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,000 justify taking like a 24 year old rookie running back like the 630 00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,920 one O 8 in superflex dynasty. I'm like that's, that's just 631 00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:53,160 irresponsible. But in basketball, I don't have 632 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,640 to be responsible. I don't have to worry about his 633 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,560 age. I can just. 634 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,000 I can well. Because we're all going to lose 635 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,280 anyway. Yeah, and and the other thing 636 00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:03,680 about you mean he's my guess with Harvey, the kind of the 637 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:08,960 career arc is that he doesn't work as like a true lead back. 638 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,680 But I bet you they try it and that's all we care about, you 639 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:13,880 know? Why do you think he's going to 640 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,560 work? I mean, I don't think he's he's, 641 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:21,960 he's explosive and I think he's going to be like a reasonably 642 00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:25,560 effective runner, but not because he's because he's like a 643 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,640 little bit undersized and I, I don't know, watching him, I'm 644 00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,760 like this dude is looking for the big play a lot like I I'm 645 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,840 not sure he's going to be like that consistent. 646 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,280 Finding it a lot. And finding it a lot, but that 647 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,880 works better. Where'd he go, UCF? 648 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:45,640 In Central Florida. Yeah, it's he reminds me of guys 649 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,240 who've gotten pigeon holed. Now being with Sean Payton is 650 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:52,480 the perfect place to be if you're if you have any of those 651 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:56,960 concerns. But yeah, I think like year 2-3, 652 00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:59,560 is he like, yeah, definitely. Nothing frustrating happens with 653 00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:02,240 Sean Payton coach, players. Yeah. 654 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,760 Well, that's just 'cause you like all the bad ones, Davis. 655 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:08,120 This guy's not Marvin Mims. They've all been bad, brother. 656 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:12,680 There's been one good Broncos fantasy player in the Sean 657 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,800 Payton era. I think I think people are 658 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,960 conflating the annoyances they have drafting Sean Payton wide 659 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,400 receivers on to Sean Payton running backs. 660 00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:25,840 Like I feel like the only thing that is the only reason why they 661 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,160 haven't gotten satisfied by their backfield the last year is 662 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:30,640 just because Javonte just sucked. 663 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:34,280 Like if they like, that's valid, but for the last two. 664 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,760 Years he kept. Getting the ball, he kept giving 665 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:40,040 the ball to Javante and then he just wouldn't do anything with 666 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:41,080 it. But like he wasn't like being 667 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:42,720 like, oh, I'm going to try all this crazy stuff. 668 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,560 It was like, I'm just going to keep giving the ball to Javante 669 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,680 and be like, ah, that didn't work. 670 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,920 So like now he's just going to keep giving the ball to RJ 671 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:50,960 Harvey and and it's probably going to work better than it 672 00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:55,120 worked with Javante. But I just, I, I don't know, I 673 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:58,480 don't think in like the fourth round or even the fifth round 674 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,520 you're getting, there's certainly a upside for it to pay 675 00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,880 off, but it doesn't that's, it does feel like a bit of a. 676 00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,679 Like I'm sorry dude, Joe Mixon is a better pick than RJ Harvey. 677 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,679 Yeah, sorry. Dude, I guess. 678 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,320 Joe Mixon's a better pick than RJ Harvey. 679 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,480 I don't want to have to say that I imagine. 680 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,639 You're forcing me to say that, Jacob? 681 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:26,480 To quote to. Quote Pete one Peter Overset 682 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,120 from yesterday's stream. No disrespect meant to Woody 683 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:31,560 Marks. I'm sure you would say that 684 00:34:31,679 --> 00:34:34,760 here, Davis. No, I I intend to fully 685 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,000 disrespect Woody Marks. He. 686 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:36,960 We. Don't have in the ranks I 687 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:38,159 believe. I can't handle it. 688 00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:43,040 Yeah. They traded a extra 3rd to go 689 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,840 get him, I think I think we. You got to want it. 690 00:34:46,159 --> 00:34:48,040 You got to want it. Yeah, yeah. 691 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,000 I no thanks on the woody marks stuff. 692 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,560 Chase Brown as good as people think. 693 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,520 The result of the draft. Yeah, awesome. 694 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:57,400 Yeah. Oh my gosh. 695 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,080 Wheels. On unless Unless Zach Moss, 696 00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,200 like, has been sleeping in a hyperbaric chamber for the last 697 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,320 six months or getting on steroids or something. 698 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:12,680 It's possible, I guess the the touch distribution last year 699 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:16,600 when they were both healthy. If that repeats like I did, I 700 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,040 did happen to look at Mike Clay's projections 'cause he's 701 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:21,840 like the only one where you can see them to the granular level 702 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,080 right now. And and he has Chase Brown is 703 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,520 like the worst value on the board. 704 00:35:25,520 --> 00:35:31,560 He's got him for 191 rushes and 55 targets which would be like. 705 00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:32,680 Why? Where? 706 00:35:32,720 --> 00:35:34,120 Where are the rest of the rushes going? 707 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:39,080 He's got 95 for Moss, 31 for P Ryan, 10 for Taj Brooks. 708 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,800 Yeah, I mean, I'm going to fade Mike Clay on that one. 709 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:47,320 I don't think it's like generally you don't project like 710 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,360 a whole backfield to go to one guy, but that's what we saw them 711 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,200 do and. Must we know? 712 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,440 That that will not have they're not gonna they're not gonna have 713 00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:59,240 a 97% snap shares for this guy. I I would be. 714 00:35:59,240 --> 00:36:01,800 I would be sure they're not gonna have 97% snap shares, but 715 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,320 I could see them doing a chyron thing. 716 00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:05,400 They basically did the chyron thing where they're like, all 717 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,280 right, this is the guy we actually trust. 718 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,200 Which is, which is great. Yeah, which is? 719 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:15,320 Great, which is awesome and that's you'd be at 80% I think 720 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,760 pretty easily. Like he's maybe he doesn't start 721 00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,920 there, but like NFL teams do what's working, you know, and 722 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:25,480 he's he's been blessed. Like he gets his Zach Moss and 723 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:29,840 Taj Brooks was late day three pick who's kind of Chase Brown 724 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,640 ish, but he's, you know, maybe the rookie Chase Brown where he 725 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,560 touches the ball three times and then we draft him excitedly the 726 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:38,760 following year. Like like the slow version of 727 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,000 rookie Chase Brown. The the thing for me about. 728 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,200 I thought he'd be though his 40. Was not a slow. 729 00:36:43,240 --> 00:36:45,880 He's he's not like, yeah, the the people thought he would be 730 00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,600 like epically slow, but he's he's still not fast. 731 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:49,520 He's not He's. Not fast. 732 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:52,120 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The thing for me about Brown pre 733 00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:56,760 draft was like the Bengals whole story last year was their 734 00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:00,840 defense was so bad for so much of the season that even with 735 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,240 Chase and Higgins going off they still couldn't get to the 736 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:05,920 playoffs. So this draft had to be about 737 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:10,080 defense for them which took running back off the table until 738 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,560 day three in my mind. And that sort of made it just 739 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,840 sort of smooth for Brown. So I hope you were in on him 740 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:20,480 before the draft. I was not in on Brown before the 741 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,240 draft. I mean, I thought this run out 742 00:37:23,240 --> 00:37:27,240 was unlikely because, you know, there's a comment saying he's 743 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,760 not very good and so he could like lose work. 744 00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:33,800 And yeah, I mean, I don't think he's very good either. 745 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,440 But they didn't add any competition. 746 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:37,960 So it's like lose work to who? This is one of the things I 747 00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,160 screwed up last year. I think especially in basketball 748 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,120 where like having the points early on when you can't, you 749 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,520 know, pick up guys off the waiver wire and stuff like it's 750 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,720 very helpful to Kamara's gonna lose work. 751 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:51,440 Nixon's gonna lose work. Like to who? 752 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:53,960 And there wasn't A to who you know. 753 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:56,960 So yes, Brown, I mean. And this is the Bengals offense. 754 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:58,520 I mean, that's, yeah. Great. 755 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,800 Yeah. And I think he's better than 756 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:03,920 people think. Like I, I, I feel like I was 757 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,120 saying this in the offseason last year and then even in 758 00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,840 season. It's like, is he an elite 759 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,560 running back? No, but I, I think that 760 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,400 sometimes people treat him like he's like a bad running back. 761 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:14,880 I don't think he's that either. I think he's like I. 762 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:16,200 Think he's bad? No, I think. 763 00:38:16,240 --> 00:38:18,280 He's like a league average starting running back where like 764 00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,720 if a team was like we want to take work away from this guy. 765 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:24,080 I I would get it because he like he probably isn't a good enough 766 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:26,880 running back to command like one of the top five opportunity 767 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,520 shares in the league. But he he's certainly solid, 768 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,480 like he is explosive and he can catch passes. 769 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:37,520 He's really improved in pass protection and he's, he's like 770 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,240 gotten to a place as a runner between the tackles where he's 771 00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:43,320 good enough and it's like, all right, we're, we're good with 772 00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,320 that. Tuba Hubbard on the Bengals. 773 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:49,440 Tuba Hubbard, Yeah, but if he's coming. 774 00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:53,120 Back then, Chase Brown. Tuba's better, but I think Chase 775 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:58,560 is a better receiver. Well, Chase Brown is really fast 776 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,800 and just one of the interesting things that happened last year 777 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:05,080 was for whatever reason, he did not like there were no 60 yard 778 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,640 touchdowns. Once Zach Moss got hurt you you 779 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:14,920 literally toss in one of the of the explosive plays and all of 780 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:18,280 his stuff looks better. You know, his rush yards over 781 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,320 expectation, his yards per carry, like literally just one. 782 00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:24,360 Yeah. I this it's a tale as old as 783 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,480 time. A day three pick who's explosive 784 00:39:27,520 --> 00:39:31,800 and fast gets scaled up to full time work and loses efficiency. 785 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:33,160 Same thing that happened to a chain. 786 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:35,640 Obviously a chain was a day two pick. 787 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,280 But I don't, I don't, I don't really think it's I don't really 788 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,640 think it's rocket science here. Chase Brown is probably going to 789 00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:49,320 get 240 touches of the football and he's on a good offense and I 790 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,440 just like, you know what he is, Karine, He's a he's kind of a 791 00:39:52,440 --> 00:39:56,320 dead zone running back, but one that we like what like where we 792 00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,920 like the we like the we like the stock you. 793 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:00,680 Know. He's projectable. 794 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:03,880 Yeah, he is project. He's honestly though Davis, he's 795 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,360 Chase Brown would have gone in like 2018. 796 00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:08,920 He would have been like the one O 9 I. 797 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,000 Was going to say he'd be. You would have been the Kenyan 798 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,360 Drake when Kenyan Drake went like at the 110 or something. 799 00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,440 Yeah, with a mix in that year or the Jacob, remember when Jacobs 800 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,000 used to go at 1:12? It's like more like that. 801 00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,160 He went in, you know, Europe. I would get Pete, Pat, you guys 802 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,800 picked Brown. Pete and Mike Leone picked 803 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:30,760 Brown, end of third. I don't know about Davis's 804 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,560 draft, I think. I think, I think I took Chase 805 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:34,880 Brown every draft I did yesterday 'cause I have him 806 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,040 ranked in the 30s and you can get him in the fourth round 807 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,680 still. ADP35 Yeah on. 808 00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:43,080 Yeah, I took a bunch of brown yesterday. 809 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:47,880 I, I don't, I mean you guys are making me question the rank 810 00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,080 which is built a lot on the basically projected volume. 811 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,200 I mean, I like that. Rank, but that that is like a 812 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:55,760 good rank. All right. 813 00:40:55,760 --> 00:41:00,240 So how do you feel about the rank if Somash P Ryan just 814 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:03,440 returns to the role that he used to be in on the Bengals? 815 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,640 I think he will return to the role that he used to be in on 816 00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:06,320 the Bengals. All right. 817 00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:14,080 Was last season in Cincinnati. 95 rushes and 51 targets. 818 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,160 But the majority of those came in like a three-week span when 819 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:18,960 Joe Mixon. Was yeah, that's right. 820 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,400 All right, let me pull up the We're Gonna Go game log. 821 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:23,920 Like he was like it was basically just a. 822 00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,160 Pure third. He was a pure third down back. 823 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:30,000 And then Mixon got hurt, and then P Ryan went crazy for a few 824 00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,440 weeks, and then Nixon came back, but he was still kind of hurt. 825 00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,760 And then they split like 5050. Is that their Super Bowl season 826 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,520 he met or in the playoffs too? No, that was the year they lost 827 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,720 the Chiefs year they lost AFC Conference Championship in 828 00:41:41,720 --> 00:41:43,640 overtime. The year after, OK. 829 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:46,920 So like Nixon? Prior to Nixon getting hurt, P 830 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,000 Ryan was was pure third down back. 831 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,520 Like 3 carries and two targets a game. 832 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:54,880 He is he. So I'm looking at it right now, 833 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:59,840 he still did play about 30% of the snaps, 25% of the snaps, 834 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:00,960 sure. I mean that is the. 835 00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,840 Pass block. Sure, but you won Chase Brown. 836 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,560 He was getting like 4 1/2 a game. 837 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,040 Yeah. It is. 838 00:42:07,320 --> 00:42:08,720 It is 3 years ago. Right it. 839 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,800 Is 3 years ago. I mean that's his age maybe, but 840 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:16,920 they did bring him back. It's an if Ted McMillan, I'll 841 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,000 just say. Before we get to Ted, I want to 842 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,240 just on the mixing comment. So we had Brett saying Woody 843 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:23,920 marks the league winner when mixing gets hurt. 844 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:28,280 I do I, I don't agree from a prospect perspective on woody 845 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,160 marks, but I do feel like maybe I, I there's a leak here of 846 00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:32,840 like, I'm like. We just miss stuff all the time 847 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,440 because we don't know anything about running back. 848 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,960 Prospects, Yeah, and I don't think Woody Marks is good, but 849 00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,960 if you just paid attention to the draft capital and the trade 850 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:46,200 up, you'd be like, yeah, he's the clear handcuff to a guy none 851 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,440 of us like and is old. So any thoughts on Woody Marks 852 00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:52,840 is ceiling? Yeah, I mean, I thought he was 853 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,080 just a satellite back. So like my initial reaction was 854 00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,280 he's he's the new dare Goomba Wale. 855 00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:01,600 He's going to play every 3rd down, but he's not really the 856 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,960 backup if Mixon gets hurt. But you're right. 857 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:07,440 Like if not Woody, then who is the backup if Mixon gets hurt? 858 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,640 Like there's no one else, right? Like who who else is in the 859 00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,840 roster literally is nervous. Damien Pierce is still around. 860 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:15,880 But like they didn't want to do anything with Pierce last year. 861 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,080 I mean, they basically did play Daria Goomba Wale as the primary 862 00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:23,680 backup when Mixon got hurt last year because they they had such 863 00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:28,400 little interest in playing Cam Akers or Damien Pierce. 864 00:43:28,720 --> 00:43:34,120 So yeah, I guess like probably would be Marx, but I think it'll 865 00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:37,560 I think it would be Marx in like a Daria kind of way where what 866 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,080 they actually do is they just go really pass heavy without Joe 867 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,200 Mixon. And then they you know, maybe 868 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,680 Woody gets like a 8 carries and seven targets in that like 869 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:50,560 start. And then they also give like 870 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,920 another 7 or 8 carries to Damien Pierce. 871 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:54,080 I I don't know. I. 872 00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:56,160 And they saw him acres the following week. 873 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,800 And then dare. Yeah, like what do you, what do 874 00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:00,240 you think of the wall is still there? 875 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,720 There's nothing about Woody's. I'll put it this way, there's 876 00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:05,640 absolutely nothing about Woody's prospect profile that says he's 877 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,400 more than a satellite back in the NFL. 878 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:12,600 But like for a two to three-week stretch, that doesn't 879 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,840 necessarily preclude an NFL team from using a satellite back as 880 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:18,280 more than a satellite back in reserve. 881 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,080 And and that can be really valuable. 882 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:24,520 Like we've seen, we've seen guys who are clearly not NFL rushers 883 00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:29,720 and are actually just satellite backs, you know, have had 884 00:44:29,720 --> 00:44:31,520 success in two to three weeks spurts. 885 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,360 Like you think of like a Justin Jackson who was a league winner 886 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:38,200 in BBM like a few years ago. Because he got played. 887 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,600 Back up while they just went extreme pass heavy and threw him 888 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,480 the ball 10 times. So yeah. 889 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,800 And the nice thing with Woody is like I do have a lot of 890 00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,800 confidence he will play from Week 1 because he he should be 891 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:52,640 immediately the third down back. I am confident he can do that. 892 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,560 So isn't, isn't. Dare going to be the third down 893 00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:56,840 back. I got him in the ranks. 894 00:44:58,240 --> 00:45:00,800 I I, I think Woody is going to displace dare really quick. 895 00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:04,680 They treated. A third round they treated a 896 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:06,280 future third round pick for this guy. 897 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:08,960 He's not going to he's. Just his Dari, the two the two 898 00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:10,400 head in the sand fantasy analyst. 899 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:14,320 Things I don't want to do are ignore woody marks, which I did 900 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:16,800 ignore to start but I just put him in the ranks and we'll 901 00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:21,200 update later today. And Isaac Tesla who they traded 902 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:25,280 literally 2 third round picks to trade up for and take. 903 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:29,000 The gateway like content by putting my head in the sand on 904 00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,080 on Isaac Tesla then. From a best ball perspective, 905 00:45:32,280 --> 00:45:33,880 you're looking for dart throws late. 906 00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,080 Like I'm pretty sure Isaac Tesla's going to play. 907 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,080 He just gave. Him, I mean, I'm fine, I'm fine 908 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:38,800 with him. There's a late. 909 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,760 Overall pick for the guy. I just think with marks, it's 910 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,880 like with marks we can be right and wrong. 911 00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:48,000 Like we can be right that he is just a satellite back. 912 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:51,080 But we can be wrong in the sense of if Joe Mixon turns an ankle 913 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:55,000 and they have no other running back and they just play him 70% 914 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,040 of snaps anyways, then he'll score fantasy points. 915 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,280 Even if he has like 2.8 yards per carry, that's that's fine. 916 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:08,000 But like Tesla as a wide receiver on the Lions with Gibbs 917 00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:11,360 and Montgomery and Laporta and Jameson Williams like that and 918 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,320 Amanara obviously like that's a tough nut to crack for a volume 919 00:46:15,320 --> 00:46:17,640 perspective. Like he actually does have to be 920 00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,480 good to do anything this year. So I I I feel more willing to 921 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,160 fade that than than the Mark situation. 922 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,200 I mean, Houston giving up a day two pick next year in this 923 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,560 thing. Like you really had to do that. 924 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:33,600 Apparently it's didn't. Back to the IT didn't do. 925 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:35,800 That. In the pronunciation department, 926 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,960 and I'm not meaning to correct anybody because I'll be 927 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:39,880 corrected next. It's Tesla, right? 928 00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:41,800 It's is that better Tesla I'm gonna stick with? 929 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,680 Tesla. Yeah, I'm never. 930 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,320 It was Tesla until like a. Couple of months ago I think for 931 00:46:47,320 --> 00:46:49,320 some reason. Yeah, just changed it. 932 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,280 Sure. Didn't you change it to Tesla I 933 00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:52,840 believe? It's actually pronounced Isaac 934 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:54,360 Department of Government efficiency. 935 00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:58,960 No, no, not anymore. The marketing potential there. 936 00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:04,040 I just wanted to say on Ted McMillan that while I accept 937 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,440 that the landing spot seems good, I mean immediate #1 up and 938 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,120 coming offense, I kind of thought that was going to happen 939 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:15,400 no matter almost no matter what. There was some some shade on him 940 00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,920 toward the end of the pre draft, but he was going to LA or he was 941 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:21,240 going, he was going somewhere cool already. 942 00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:25,400 So another one where I feel like we wanted to be in before. 943 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:30,760 I definitely got a little bit nervous that he wasn't maybe 944 00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:33,960 going somewhere cool. You know, that he was like he 945 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:37,200 was mocked to the Ravens in the late first round and stuff like 946 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,080 that. And you know, Mcshea had a wide 947 00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:42,600 receiver 50 and everything. So I'm like some people like 948 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,560 hate this dude and I don't know where the NFL stands. 949 00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,840 And I I did not think he was going to go top ten. 950 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,520 I thought he was very live to go to the Cowboys at 12. 951 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,160 Sounds like that like basically was a lot to happen if he got 952 00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:57,200 there. But yeah, I, I, I was a little 953 00:47:57,240 --> 00:48:01,880 bit more nervous about what his kind of path to targets could 954 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:04,920 look like. And then obviously here, it's 955 00:48:04,920 --> 00:48:07,680 pretty clean. So yeah, I. 956 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,760 Who knew even the Tampa Bay would have been a consideration 957 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,920 or would have considered him like. 958 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,600 That exactly. We were never talking about him 959 00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:15,920 them. The infill draft is that would 960 00:48:15,920 --> 00:48:16,640 have been. Horrible that. 961 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,920 Would have been horrible, yeah. That's not great. 962 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,120 I've been so tied up in dynasty world that I haven't gotten 963 00:48:25,120 --> 00:48:27,160 around to like setting up my best ball rankings. 964 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:32,600 But 32 looks vaguely fine. I think probably like a mid to 965 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:36,080 late 3rd pick on on tat as a clear #1 should be good. 966 00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:39,200 Like he got 150 targets here if he's the Prince it was promised. 967 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:45,400 A lot of weight on Bryce Young's Nimble, skinny little shoulders 968 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:51,680 with the if we're, if we're taking Ted at 32 cuz, cuz you, 969 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,160 what you don't want to do is you don't want to have a huge bag of 970 00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:55,400 Tet. You don't want to be like, dude, 971 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,520 I'm taking Tet over Mike Evans every time. 972 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:02,320 And then by Week 6 you're like, dude, where is Andy Dalton? 973 00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:05,480 Where is the Red Rifle? You do not. 974 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,480 You do not want to be doing that to yourself for sure. 975 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,040 I I am taking technol over Mike Evans every single time so. 976 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:14,320 Jacob, I am. I am as well. 977 00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,680 Come on, Andy Dalton. Dynasty. 978 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,120 Pick what, by the way? Three, I haven't ranked the one 979 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:21,960 O 3, yeah. Yeah. 980 00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,800 Yeah, we did a. Hunter at 2 and Hampted at 4:00. 981 00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,720 So we're on established schedule to mock draft yesterday, and I 982 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,800 think, yeah, Reeves took Hampton and then Theo took. 983 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:42,160 Classic Reeves. He Theo took Tet at at 3:00. 984 00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,680 So at 4:00 I took Hunter. So, but I do, I do think it's, I 985 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,600 have Hunter too, but I do think it's flat that that you could 986 00:49:48,600 --> 00:49:52,760 take any of those guys. I I don't I have Hunter in his 987 00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:57,480 own tier but I understand that the the the market thinks it's 988 00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,160 flat. Like I've looked at if you go to 989 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:04,080 dynastydatalab.com you can sort by just post draft rookie ADP 990 00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:09,400 and Travis Hunter has has been the one O 5 so far in post draft 991 00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,440 dynasty superflex drafts it is super flat. 992 00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:17,960 He definitely goes at one O 2 fairly often as well, but he's 993 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:21,400 been the one O 5 on average. I think the way I'm treating it 994 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,200 in my drafts is like if I have the one O 3 to one O 5, I'm not 995 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,960 trying to trade out to the one O 2. 996 00:50:27,720 --> 00:50:30,640 I'm just going to let Hunter fall to me on the occasions that 997 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:36,200 he does unless I like and then if I'm outside of the one O 5, 998 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:42,200 then I will well, I'm not usually interested in Cam ward, 999 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:45,200 but then, but I will basically just try to trade up if either 1000 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,240 tat or ward fall to like the one O 4, the one O 5. 1001 00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:51,360 But I'm I'm trying to avoid. I'm drafting 100 all of my one O 1002 00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:55,080 2's that I I have naturally, but I'm trying to get my surplus 1003 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:58,880 hunters at discounts. I'm not like, you know, 1004 00:50:59,320 --> 00:51:01,840 initially I thought like, Oh my gosh, I might just have to trade 1005 00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:04,600 up to one O 2 in every single draft, but I'm I'm not trying to 1006 00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:05,520 do that. I'm not going to. 1007 00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:06,840 I'm not going to get over my skis. 1008 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,840 It feels to me like every dynasty league I'm in, somebody 1009 00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:14,480 in the last two days has posted one O 2-3 or four on the block 1010 00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:17,720 like they're trying to. I have I have the one O 2 in our 1011 00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:18,920 league and I'm trying to get rid of it. 1012 00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:22,480 I'm trying to get, I'm trying to get like a super premium asset. 1013 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:23,880 For I think it's going to be tough. 1014 00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:25,600 I think you could get a good veteran. 1015 00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,520 We we talked about this last week. 1016 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:30,200 I think that's a a trade that's makeable, but moving down and 1017 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:33,400 adding a third or something is not happening most. 1018 00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:36,400 How about how about this one? I I made a trade in a league 1019 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:43,840 where I traded Marvin Harrison Junior for the one O 3 and a 26 1020 00:51:43,840 --> 00:51:46,120 second and at the one O 3 I took Travis Hunter. 1021 00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:50,440 I would mean I, I might, I might have Hunter ranked ahead of 1022 00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:51,960 Marvin Harrison. Junior, I have Hunter. 1023 00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,000 I have Hunter and Mcgillan ranked head of Marvin Harrison. 1024 00:51:54,960 --> 00:52:00,200 I'm pretty sure I don't. I did, I did our like in our 1025 00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,760 sheet that we all have together. I redid my rankings but I didn't 1026 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:06,760 do any market checking yet to see if I'm like insanely out of 1027 00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:09,120 line on anyone. I I think I have Hunter ahead. 1028 00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:11,880 I have Harrison ahead by like 5 spots. 1029 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,960 Yeah. I do have them all in the same 1030 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,200 tier. Well, I have Hunter actually not 1031 00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:19,080 in that tier. I have Hunter a tier ahead of 1032 00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,040 McMillan and Harrison, but I I have McMillan ahead of Harrison 1033 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:25,880 as well by two spots. Yeah, rapping on risers, Jack 1034 00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:28,200 Besh, Trey Harris, both guys did great. 1035 00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:35,240 Good for the Jacob Sanderson brand and bags right there on on 1036 00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:38,240 Jack Bash and Trey Harris. Those are those are rookie 1037 00:52:38,240 --> 00:52:41,840 numbers. Besh is going to be Crane. 1038 00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,200 I think maybe we talked, we talked about Kelvin Benjamin. 1039 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,160 On this that's just sitting there like if you want Besh 1040 00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,280 right now you do not need to follow this rank. 1041 00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,440 You can. You can get him way after the 1042 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,560 rank. I took him at 125 yesterday just 1043 00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,360 'cause I was in AII, did like A4 running back start build and 1044 00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:00,640 needed wide receivers and it was just like yeah dude, I'm taking, 1045 00:53:00,680 --> 00:53:01,880 I'm taking Jack Bash. It is. 1046 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,040 It is wide open for him. Did you guys, were you guys 1047 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,120 watching NFL Network by chance when he was picked? 1048 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,360 Because they did this thing for every team where they'd show you 1049 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:14,480 it was fantasy friendly 5 skill position guys like what they're 1050 00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:18,360 what their team is after the pick and on the Raiders they 1051 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,600 didn't have Jacoby Myers, but they had monster. 1052 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,800 I mean that that's just sort of peak Jacoby Myers disrespect, I 1053 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,960 think at this point because. An epidemic. 1054 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:29,360 Man, it's crazy. Monster over Jacoby Myers? 1055 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,120 That's a mess. And you know, Trey Harris, some 1056 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,000 people on this program were like, oh man, you might go in 1057 00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,560 the third. You got to you got to mix up 1058 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,280 your exposures. You can't just keep clicking 1059 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:40,880 Trey Harris. Other people said, that sign 1060 00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:42,120 doesn't bother me because I can't read. 1061 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:44,840 And we just play Trey Harris and only Trey Harris the entire 1062 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:46,400 season. And you know who won that 1063 00:53:46,400 --> 00:53:47,840 battle? Trey Harris. 1064 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:50,200 That only Trey. I'm sure, I'm sure there'll be 1065 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:56,600 nothing frustrating at all about a boundary wide receiver playing 1066 00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,240 for the Los Angeles Chargers stuck behind an absolute volume 1067 00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:02,960 merchant outside. I'm sure I'm. 1068 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:06,160 Sure, you merchant, that's that's derogatory. 1069 00:54:06,240 --> 00:54:07,600 I don't. I don't, I didn't. 1070 00:54:07,640 --> 00:54:09,320 I didn't really mean it. I didn't really mean it 1071 00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:14,720 derogatory, but also I'm sure there'll be nothing frustrating 1072 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,960 at all about Mike Williams's presence on the team. 1073 00:54:18,280 --> 00:54:19,840 Yeah, that. Definitely won't happen. 1074 00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,960 And then Keenan Allen resigning on August 12th. 1075 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,160 I'm sure there will be absolutely nothing frustrating. 1076 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,840 Talk about spider Man. Yeah, I am prepared for like 1077 00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,080 extreme tilt at the level of snaps that Quentin Johnson. 1078 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:36,760 And yeah, I was gonna say and surely, surely. 1079 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,640 They'll be. About Quinton Johnson's presence 1080 00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,080 at all. I'm looking forward to Week 7 1081 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:43,360 when I'm writing the walkthrough. 1082 00:54:43,360 --> 00:54:46,520 Trey Harris up to 60% route participation last week. 1083 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,320 Looking positive for the young the young rookie. 1084 00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,760 Well looks like you guys will continue to to to sleep on Trey 1085 00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,280 Harris and his 5.12 yards for route run. 1086 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,840 So I got him. I took him in one of the two 1087 00:54:59,840 --> 00:55:02,560 drafts yesterday. I know, you know, all these guys 1088 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:04,200 are still moving around and everything. 1089 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:05,880 It's not he's going to definitely settle there. 1090 00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,160 But I also got Higgins at around this price and I was worried 1091 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,800 that they were going to be like immediate 8th rounders. 1092 00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:15,400 And maybe, who knows, maybe they kind of will settle there. 1093 00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:22,360 But it doesn't feel like at least so far that this is like a 1094 00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,200 a fader stance on on Harris. We'll see. 1095 00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:28,240 No. I can move them up a little. 1096 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:31,480 Yeah. Speaking of the Chargers. 1097 00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,600 Looks like I do have them a little higher than this if ADP 1098 00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,560 moves up, so he'll move up if ADP goes up a bit more. 1099 00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,440 Anyway, go ahead. Yeah, Speaking of the Chargers, 1100 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:47,960 on top of the Fallers list is 1. Naji Harris as we run this group 1101 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:49,040 down. Jerome Ford. 1102 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,680 Sorry, Jacob. DJ Moore, Christian Kirk, Tyrone 1103 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,040 Tracy. That's an interesting one. 1104 00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:57,800 We talked about him last week. Tyler Warren, there is. 1105 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:00,440 And then, of course, Jalen McMillan. 1106 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,000 I feel like you guys were always sort of making this bet on 1107 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:07,320 Harris. I was into it, but not enough 1108 00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,640 money, not good enough and the Chargers were. 1109 00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:13,120 I I was into Harris Hampton pick 120 before. 1110 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,560 But yeah, yeah. After he signed with the 1111 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:19,520 Chargers, he was completely undraftable 'cause he just got. 1112 00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:22,080 Immediately. Too, too expensive. 1113 00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:23,520 I mean, it was like a. 6th Rounder. 1114 00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,080 Yep. You you want to talk about guys 1115 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,520 who make YouTube commenters mad? You you start talking too much 1116 00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,720 about Naji Harris and the YouTube commenters will will 1117 00:56:31,720 --> 00:56:33,080 come for you. Give it to me. 1118 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:33,720 Keep. Let's keep. 1119 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,400 Let's keep talking, yeah? If only there was some. 1120 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:39,840 Guys whose usage is going to frustrate you, by the way, the 1121 00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:42,400 first month of the season. Oh, now she's starting. 1122 00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:44,680 Now she's starting for the Chargers Week 1. 1123 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:49,960 I, I, I bet -900 Naji Harris first carry for the Chargers 1124 00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:51,960 this year. If only there was some way to 1125 00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:55,640 predict that Jerome Ford would easily be usurped. 1126 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,360 They're just sadly, sadly, there just would have been no way to 1127 00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:01,400 to to predict that that could have happened. 1128 00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,520 Jacob. Yeah, well, we're looking at my 1129 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:09,040 client is, is, is going to be speaking with management and you 1130 00:57:09,040 --> 00:57:11,760 know, maybe he'll be requesting his release to look at 1131 00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,320 opportunities in the Dallas Fort Worth area. 1132 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,680 Once over. Jerome 4 but good. 1133 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,320 That's that's the part that that stings with. 1134 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,760 Yeah, that that is that is what I did not see coming. 1135 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:26,440 Like the Judkins thing was like, that sucks, but like no biggie. 1136 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:29,320 Because like in my view is like he was going in, he was going to 1137 00:57:29,320 --> 00:57:32,120 pick 140. And in my view it was the bet 1138 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:35,400 was like if he somehow survives, like if they only pick Samson, 1139 00:57:35,480 --> 00:57:38,120 that it's like wheels up. Like, you know, we're we're 1140 00:57:38,200 --> 00:57:42,800 we're moving up in the world. And if they pick a Judkins, it's 1141 00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,040 like, well, that was completely priced in. 1142 00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:48,680 He should still be going in like 140 to 170 range anyways. 1143 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,200 Yeah, it's fine. Yeah, but the fact that they 1144 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,040 double replaced him, gotta admit that I didn't see that coming. 1145 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:57,760 So it's over for for Jerome Ford. 1146 00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:01,000 It it's over now. Yeah, it's it's not he's not 1147 00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:05,440 like dead to matter, but he's not worth it's not a bet worth 1148 00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:08,400 making anymore. So I've got my big board bags. 1149 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,680 We'll see. He's not the shepherd I thought 1150 00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,520 he was, but maybe, maybe he'll have a little value. 1151 00:58:13,520 --> 00:58:16,520 No dude, he'll get 4. Just just like several plants, 1152 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:21,160 you know, in the industrial Midwest, the the Ford windows 1153 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:26,440 closed. I I agree by the way, Corrine 1154 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,520 with this DJ Moore nuking, I got some pushback on this yesterday. 1155 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:31,440 I. Think you should nuke him a lot 1156 00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:32,840 more? My rank. 1157 00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:34,680 That's way too high. I love, I love this. 1158 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,920 Well. Speaking of doubling up the 1159 00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,600 bears. He's got a, he's got a that's. 1160 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,840 Where I thought he should have been drafted before the draft. 1161 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:42,960 Do you do you think he has trade outs? 1162 00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:44,920 Because if you think he's. Got no because they would eat 1163 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:46,920 $30 million of dead cat to trade him. 1164 00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:50,520 Yeah. But I think he has benched outs. 1165 00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,400 His effort last year was deplorable. 1166 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,160 He he was quitting on every play. 1167 00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:59,560 He couldn't beat any coverage on any non gimmick routes. 1168 00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:01,520 They had to scheme a bunch of running back carries. 1169 00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:05,520 It's a new regime coming in. I don't know how it's going to 1170 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:07,160 all shake out. I just know that I want to bet 1171 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,040 on the guys that Ben Johnson specifically went out and 1172 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,400 targeted in all formats. I want to bet on burden. 1173 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,720 I want to bet on loved 1. And I'm not going to let the 1174 00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:20,200 guys who were part of failed Bears teams of the past stop me 1175 00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,920 from betting on fun young players who Ben Johnson went out 1176 00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,680 and and targeted. So like I'm I'm I'm going to be 1177 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,240 a big like if if that leg up breaking of 42 wound up being as 1178 00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:35,640 a DPI would have a 0.0% DJ more exposure. 1179 00:59:37,320 --> 00:59:40,920 And then, you know, I have some level of interest in a doomsday. 1180 00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,840 But but I'll be buying into the uncertainty aggressively on 1181 00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:50,200 Loveland and Burden. OK, you you would take a 1182 00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:54,360 doomsday over more. Where? 1183 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:55,600 What's a doomsday's ADP right now? 1184 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,760 I've been solely dynasty pill so I didn't draft. 1185 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:01,520 Is it? Like 40-50. 8. 1186 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,240 Yeah, 50. # I. Wouldn't I wouldn't touch either 1187 01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:06,880 of those. I wouldn't touch either of those 1188 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:08,320 players anymore. OK. 1189 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:12,320 And the bears, I think, DJ. Moore should be like, I think, I 1190 01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:13,440 think all these players should be close. 1191 01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,960 I think DJ Moore should be like a sixth round pick. 1192 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:19,040 I think a Doomsday should be like a sixth round pick. 1193 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:24,000 I think Burden should be like a seventh round pick in Loveland, 1194 01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,720 should be like 1/8 and 1/2, OK. I'm going to want to build bear 1195 01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,680 scenes, I just have to move to a different state to do it. 1196 01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:33,560 Yeah, the market is not going to agree with you on. 1197 01:00:33,560 --> 01:00:35,600 No, but I think the market is incorrect. 1198 01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:39,840 Burden does not strike me as a seventh round. 1199 01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,000 Heck, I guess, I guess actually we have him in the seventh 1200 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:44,320 round. So he does strike me that way. 1201 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,040 He just was. It was striking to hear him that 1202 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:50,320 close to those guys. Yeah, that's my stance. 1203 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:51,400 I think it should be more compressed. 1204 01:00:51,400 --> 01:00:53,760 I know the market's not going to agree with me on this, but I I'm 1205 01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,360 very sure that I'm going to have a stance that is like 20% 1206 01:00:57,360 --> 01:01:01,240 Loveland, 20% burden, 0% more, 5% of Doon's say that's. 1207 01:01:01,240 --> 01:01:05,120 Loveland for Loveland for me is the like the safest bet 1208 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,880 actually, ironically for a rookie because the wide receiver 1209 01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,640 distribution could go a few different ways. 1210 01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:15,080 But I feel like that that pick first round, I mean red zone 1211 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:19,440 yards per target, I, I think Loveland is the one maybe I'd 1212 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,400 want the most. Does he definitely commit 1213 01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,080 immediately though? Because you have, you have a guy 1214 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:29,760 who's been, he's very capable of like doing tight end stuff, even 1215 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:32,800 if he's not good enough to have be a starter anymore. 1216 01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:35,280 They they clearly are going to move on from him eventually, but 1217 01:01:35,960 --> 01:01:37,960 it could be a bit of a slower start than we'd like. 1218 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,640 For maybe for Loveland, command becomes Knox. 1219 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:43,720 That that one they could get off of. 1220 01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,520 They want to I, I think, I think Loveland dusts someone 1221 01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,320 immediately. I don't know how. 1222 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,000 They're calling him. I think. 1223 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:53,720 I think. That he. 1224 01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,200 No, he's way better than Dalton Kincaid. 1225 01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,520 He can. He because he can. 1226 01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:59,880 The thing is with Loveland that he can actually play either way. 1227 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:01,560 He can. He can play. 1228 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:05,080 If they bring Burden along slowly, they could play Loveland 1229 01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:09,520 in the slot a lot. But if they want Loveland to 1230 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:15,480 play, why he he can block way better than and he can actually 1231 01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:17,680 do that. So I I think he does someone, I 1232 01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,400 don't know for sure if it's just Kamat, I think he is going to 1233 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:25,320 play a mix of Y&F early. And if it becomes a point where 1234 01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:29,320 burden and Loveland look like hits, then they just get rid of 1235 01:02:29,320 --> 01:02:31,040 Cole combat and they play the three wide receivers. 1236 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,480 They play Loveland at Y. But if burden looks like he's 1237 01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:36,120 not going to be a hit, then they could still play commit at Y. 1238 01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,120 They can play Loveland at F Or if it gets to a point where you 1239 01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,680 know, DJ more or Rome start to look like massive busts, then 1240 01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,120 then maybe they take one of those guys off the field more 1241 01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,240 often. So I, I think there's multiple 1242 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,960 outs. I I just try to look at a zoomed 1243 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:52,360 out view. I think Loveland's an awesome 1244 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:54,720 prospect. He gets 10th overall draft 1245 01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,000 capital. That's the guy out of everyone 1246 01:02:57,000 --> 01:02:58,920 on this offense that Ben Johnson prioritized. 1247 01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:02,040 He like I know Ryan Pole's still there, but I don't think he gets 1248 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:05,760 like he's in the cock chair on this one like like Ben Johnson's 1249 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:08,920 running the show. So I look at it as like he 1250 01:03:08,920 --> 01:03:13,680 decided I already have Roma Dunes Equal Command DJ Moore on 1251 01:03:13,680 --> 01:03:17,560 my team and I could draft any of these skill players in the 1252 01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,560 draft. But what what I want to do is I 1253 01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:22,920 want to invest a 10th overall pick in Colston Loveland. 1254 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,240 So either that means he views his current players as 1255 01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,000 insufficient, or he loves Colston Loveland so much that 1256 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,720 he's willing to displace them anyways. 1257 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:35,720 And I'm happy with either of those scenarios from a Colston 1258 01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:39,000 Loveland perspective. Totally, Cole Canocks, Davis 1259 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:45,160 Summer saying. Cole yeah, I mean, the the Bears 1260 01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:49,520 offense is probably like likely to be annoying, just like with a 1261 01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,840 a really random target distribution week to week 1262 01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,240 doesn't matter that much for us. But they've got, you know, five 1263 01:03:58,240 --> 01:04:02,680 guys who've got to be on the field who will, who will play at 1264 01:04:02,680 --> 01:04:04,800 least, you know, 40% of the snaps. 1265 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,640 Are whatever. I also think like the burden 1266 01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:12,760 part of it, if this was if they had taken Abuka, I would be 1267 01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:16,400 like, there's just like panic in the streets on the bears 1268 01:04:16,400 --> 01:04:18,200 rankings. Like I, you know, then then I'd 1269 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,120 be, I think closer to where Jacob is on, on the veterans. 1270 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:27,400 But burden is volatile. Like this guy might be like he, 1271 01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:30,840 he fell to the second round because of like off the field 1272 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:34,520 stuff as far as, you know, not like allegations or anything, 1273 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,320 but just like, I don't know if we can like count on this guy 1274 01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:43,640 and maybe they can't, you know, so he's there's, there's 1275 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:47,040 questions about, you know what, you know, the, the completeness 1276 01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:48,920 of the route tree. You know, they, you know, how 1277 01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:50,720 much of it was kind of more gadgety stuff. 1278 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:53,280 They love the yak and the explosiveness and the the 1279 01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:58,280 ceiling is unquestionable now, but the floor is still, I think 1280 01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:00,960 pretty low just given the prospect profile. 1281 01:05:02,840 --> 01:05:06,320 And so, you know, it's just like a little bit harder for me to 1282 01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:10,080 just take DJ Moore, who was going in the third round before 1283 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:12,400 and be like, he's a 6th rounder now. 1284 01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:14,520 A doomsday. This actually makes me more 1285 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:16,080 nervous about a doomsday in the whole. 1286 01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:18,560 ADP though. Yeah, I took him some. 1287 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:21,600 OK, maybe that's a difference. Like I I was like, couldn't have 1288 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,080 been less interested in DJ Moore's old ADP. 1289 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,480 I didn't expect them to do this, you know, I didn't think they 1290 01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:29,120 would like they, I didn't think they. 1291 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,800 Do this either. I just thought he was so goddamn 1292 01:05:31,800 --> 01:05:36,240 bad last year and like, just like, didn't exude the energy of 1293 01:05:36,240 --> 01:05:39,280 an interested NFL player. Would you bro? 1294 01:05:39,280 --> 01:05:40,160 I. Just want you. 1295 01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,480 Would you have exuded energy for the 2012 Chicago earning? 1296 01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,400 $20 million. I would have some respect for 1297 01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,240 myself and not sit on the bench in the middle of a play. 1298 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,320 I don't know man, I kind of like my I feel this way about. 1299 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:55,880 Absolutely kind of waste, man. I I kind of like when my wide 1300 01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:57,520 receivers are Divas. Frankly. 1301 01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:02,000 It's kind of a long tradition of guys who lollygagged and then 1302 01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,840 when the going got good, they got going right. 1303 01:06:05,240 --> 01:06:08,120 It's just like, this is like this is like well versed 1304 01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,320 territory for star wide receivers to just dog it when it 1305 01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,120 doesn't matter. And then, oh, Caleb's pretty 1306 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:15,760 good now. Offensive lines protected and 1307 01:06:15,760 --> 01:06:19,080 I'm gonna I'm gonna ball out. That is like we're talking about 1308 01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:23,920 basically a funny anecdote that DJ Moore is going to write about 1309 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,320 in his book 13 years from now or whatever. 1310 01:06:26,920 --> 01:06:29,440 Like, dude, that 20/20/14 was crazy. 1311 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,840 I hated my coach. I hated Waldron. 1312 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:34,680 Caleb wasn't even watching film. Dude was too busy, you know, 1313 01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,720 painting his nails or whatever. Then Ben Johnson came in, was 1314 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:41,680 squatting four O 5 ass to grasp. We, we were, we were ready to 1315 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,240 go. You know, like I, I, I, I'm 1316 01:06:44,240 --> 01:06:46,560 saying dude. Please go strike DJ Moore's 1317 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:49,640 memoir. I would read every page. 1318 01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:54,800 I I would I would draft Davis Maddock as DJ Moore at the 28.1. 1319 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,800 I'm just I'm just saying, dude, like, like, I don't know, let's 1320 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:03,600 just let's just go look at obviously everyone knows the the 1321 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:07,080 the Randy Moss season, but like, let's just look at another stud 1322 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,120 wide receiver. First one that popped up to me, 1323 01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,680 Chad Johnson. There's there's some crazy 1324 01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,120 dogging it games in there. Let's look at let's look at 1325 01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:21,400 Keyshawn Johnson, another guy who dogged it for multiple 1326 01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:24,400 seasons and then said, you know what, all right, I'm ready to 1327 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:28,320 go. Let's go 110 thirteen 110 Chris 1328 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:31,120 Carter. Chris Carter another He was so 1329 01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,160 mad when they drafted Randy Moss right I. 1330 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,040 Your receiver. They draft Randy Moss like he 1331 01:07:39,160 --> 01:07:41,200 should be mad. That sucks for you real bad. 1332 01:07:41,520 --> 01:07:47,880 I, I think I think the if you really wanted to use your your 1333 01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:52,040 your NFL nerd cap, you'd say this is way more bearish for 1334 01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,480 Roma Dunsay, who they just took top ten and they say, you know 1335 01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:59,160 who gave a real need at wide receiver I. 1336 01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:00,600 Think it's way more bearish for Roma. 1337 01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:03,240 Doonsay too. Like Doonsay was was worse than 1338 01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:07,520 Moore last year. Doonsay really did not show that 1339 01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:10,320 much. We know that Moore I mean. 1340 01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:13,360 It's theoretically good. We have we have concepts of DJ 1341 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:15,760 Moore being good. Yeah, he's he's 28. 1342 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:19,800 He just turned 28, so it's not like he's really old. 1343 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:22,520 Maybe he's falling off a little bit, but this is a window where 1344 01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,359 we normally expect guys to be in their prime. 1345 01:08:24,359 --> 01:08:27,680 And we know that he has been awesome in the past, but 1346 01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:29,680 Doomsday were like, not sure if he's even good. 1347 01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:34,520 And the Bears just drafted a guy in the early second round that 1348 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:39,240 is that's a bad signal, I think on on what a Doomsday's role is, 1349 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:43,920 is expected to be. A while back you said you know 1350 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,160 something to the effect of we didn't know what the Bears were 1351 01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,000 going to do. Of course, the unpredictable 1352 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:52,120 nature of the draft. I I might think that if the 1353 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:55,880 Browns told Jacksonville. Yet we are not trading Travis 1354 01:08:55,880 --> 01:09:00,080 Hunter that Genti is a bear. There was so much speculation 1355 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:01,680 about that 12 to. Five. 1356 01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:03,840 What did they trade up? They trade up to five. 1357 01:09:03,960 --> 01:09:04,840 I see. I see. 1358 01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:07,600 Yeah. And then the whole thing is, you 1359 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,399 know, parallel or different universe. 1360 01:09:09,399 --> 01:09:12,880 But yeah, drafting 2 pass catchers with their first two 1361 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:14,120 picks, I don't know. I didn't see it. 1362 01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:17,720 Admittedly, this is basically just what I'm doing where I'm 1363 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,359 just like, TJ Moore quit on his team and this, and it's not a 1364 01:09:20,359 --> 01:09:21,960 dog. But there's a lot more large 1365 01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,279 debate going on in the chat about whether Roma Doons A is a 1366 01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:26,000 dog. We have, James says. 1367 01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:29,720 I know Roma Doons A is a dog from Washington, But then Pepper 1368 01:09:29,720 --> 01:09:34,080 Tony says Rome's too nice, not a dog, and then James Young says 1369 01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:37,080 disagree dog so. You know. 1370 01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:43,640 I'm I'm voting, I'm voting Rome. I'm voting Rome as of the 1371 01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:47,520 evidence right now. Low, low dog levels. 1372 01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,640 Low. Dog levels on Rome. 1373 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:51,479 I I'm not sure about his dog levels. 1374 01:09:51,479 --> 01:09:53,279 I can't, I can't say that for sure. 1375 01:09:54,240 --> 01:10:00,040 I do think the one nice thing Rome has, you know, Loveland is 1376 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:02,080 a tight end, so he's like an intermediate guy. 1377 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:07,520 DJ Moore has been a good downfield receiver at times. 1378 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:10,000 He wasn't last year. He was really a short area guy. 1379 01:10:10,480 --> 01:10:13,520 And so in theory that's kind of also a burden is so that's more 1380 01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:16,720 overlapping. Rome's the only guy who's really 1381 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:20,240 like a field stretcher. So that's, you know, it works 1382 01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:22,680 two ways. One, I think that might protect 1383 01:10:22,680 --> 01:10:24,760 his routes where he needs to be the guy on the field that's 1384 01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:28,800 running that Kaufman of routes. It also is not a role that has 1385 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:33,000 had much fun in the Ben Johnson and he's kind of an iteration of 1386 01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:36,080 the Sean Payton offense. Like, if you think about the 1387 01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,560 players who have played the role that Rome's probably going to 1388 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:43,120 play on the Lions, it's like Tim Patrick, DJ Shark, Donovan 1389 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,640 Peoples. Yeah, you just called him a poor 1390 01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:47,400 man's Isaac Tesla. Dude, he's literally, he's 1391 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,280 literally he, he is. Like if you're just doing the 1392 01:10:50,280 --> 01:10:53,720 one to one, this dude is Tim Patrick right now. 1393 01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:58,560 Woof. And maybe we're wrong, like. 1394 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,520 You know who, you know who. You know who Aman Ross St. 1395 01:11:01,520 --> 01:11:04,160 Brown is, by the way? Luther Burden. 1396 01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,200 No, it's more. Well, it is for now. 1397 01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:11,720 Luther Burden's right there. I mean you guys, I refuse to be 1398 01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:14,640 typecast as the anti burden guy because I was the one having to 1399 01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,360 tell you guys for. Life this 'cause you're such a 1400 01:11:16,360 --> 01:11:19,600 DJ Moore guy that you'll you'll turn yourself into the anti 1401 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:22,560 whoever's opposing DJ Moore, you love DJ Moore. 1402 01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:26,280 We've we've disagreed about DJ Moore for our entire time 1403 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,640 knowing each other. Now what if, what if what if we 1404 01:11:29,640 --> 01:11:35,120 just say Rome is the the odd man out then then burden and. 1405 01:11:36,120 --> 01:11:37,680 Guys, you can't make fantasy rankings. 1406 01:11:37,720 --> 01:11:39,360 Finally coming up with some weird DJ. 1407 01:11:39,360 --> 01:11:42,200 More truce. Like what if we just bury Rome 1408 01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:43,760 and then we both think of our kind? 1409 01:11:45,360 --> 01:11:48,640 Well, well, I'm just saying what if we if we if we do say, if we 1410 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:54,080 if we just say Rome, Rome, Rome is Tim Patrick, then I want. 1411 01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,120 I want. The two St. 1412 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:59,320 Browns, Tim. Patrick now Rome didn't say it's 1413 01:11:59,320 --> 01:12:07,360 Tim Patrick now negotiate 3 The seven ACL injuries I assume dog 1414 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:11,080 dog in him dog dog used to be only bad just like. 1415 01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:12,480 Goat was the most dog in the NFL. 1416 01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:16,760 He came back from 2 ACL injuries and then played on the kneecap 1417 01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:19,240 biting lions and was totally crumulant. 1418 01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,480 That's incredible levels of dog. Roman doons. 1419 01:12:21,480 --> 01:12:24,280 They could never do that. The guy has that dog good. 1420 01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,960 The guy is a dog bad. He's the goat. 1421 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:29,040 Good. It's a dog. 1422 01:12:29,200 --> 01:12:31,280 Oh, in certain contexts, yeah. Is a dog. 1423 01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:31,920 It's Ben. Yeah. 1424 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:34,400 Dog is ultra now. We we said DJ was. 1425 01:12:34,760 --> 01:12:37,240 Dogging it last year, you know, it's, yeah, it's a lot of it's a 1426 01:12:37,240 --> 01:12:39,960 lot of context clothes. Let's do, let's do Jalen 1427 01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:45,880 McMillan real quick 144. Honestly, Crane still feels 1428 01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:49,160 optimistic. Sorry really quick Davis, can 1429 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:52,720 Ioffer you a super truce? I'm listening Luther Burden, 1430 01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:58,360 RB1, DJ Moore. They won't say wide receiver 1 1431 01:12:58,360 --> 01:12:59,800 and 2. I'm hearing. 1432 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,040 It and one Colson Loveland slot receiver. 1433 01:13:02,440 --> 01:13:04,560 I'm hearing it and I'm loving it, yeah. 1434 01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:07,880 There we go, there we. Go get that on the wall. 1435 01:13:07,880 --> 01:13:12,960 Shark Tank, What's happening? How great would that be? 1436 01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:19,800 McMillan guys, I apologize, but this is this is just anchoring 1437 01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:22,280 bias. They just took a wide receiver 1438 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,600 at 18, brother. Like what? 1439 01:13:26,400 --> 01:13:28,240 He's a He's a handcuffed wide receiver. 1440 01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:29,960 He's Blake Korum at wide receiver. 1441 01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:32,680 Yeah. All right. 1442 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:34,120 What's his? Is he good? 1443 01:13:34,120 --> 01:13:36,600 I. Mean he's fine I I think. 1444 01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,240 Many are saying he's this year's Dantevian Wicks. 1445 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,320 Literally, yes. No, he is. 1446 01:13:42,840 --> 01:13:43,960 He is. We were wrong. 1447 01:13:44,240 --> 01:13:44,800 That was. Wrong. 1448 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,480 We were. We were super, super wrong. 1449 01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:50,400 Although here's a here's a great Here's a great stat you could do 1450 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,400 to make someone mad. You know who led the Packers and 1451 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:56,160 targets last year? Dantevian Wicks Now don't ask 1452 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:59,320 what the number was, but it it's just that that part is actually 1453 01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:04,000 true. 1876 Not not very many to lead. 1454 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:06,800 Somehow is ADP still 124? Like I, I'm going through right 1455 01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:11,000 now and, and there's guys who we like we're like don't be tied to 1456 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,720 ADP because the ADP is bad and I'm looking at the ADP I'm like, 1457 01:14:13,720 --> 01:14:18,120 oh, the ADP is already good. His ADP is at 122 right now. 1458 01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:24,000 That's so way too high. So yeah, makes. 1459 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,960 Sense way too high, man. You guys are right. 1460 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,840 We're I've just lowered him a little bit more, but I think 1461 01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:30,600 it's not like he's anywhere close to 144 yet. 1462 01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:34,760 You, you, you need to hit like I and I understand that there are 1463 01:14:34,760 --> 01:14:37,120 a lot of outs. So the outs are Ibuka stinks, 1464 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:40,480 Mike Evans black marble season, Chris Godwin is not healthy. 1465 01:14:40,480 --> 01:14:43,880 You, you have a lot of outs, but his like, I don't know. 1466 01:14:43,880 --> 01:14:45,680 Here, let me pull. Up like 2 of them to hit for it 1467 01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,960 to really matter. Yeah, it wasn't that helpful 1468 01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:51,880 last year when he was the three. He was only really good last 1469 01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,080 year when Godwin got hurt and he became the 2. 1470 01:14:54,560 --> 01:15:00,320 Yeah, so Mike Clay has Jalen McMillan projected for 34 1471 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:07,440 receptions. So I just, I just can't, I, I 1472 01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:11,440 can't get there to to be taking Macmillians, right. 1473 01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:14,640 Now where would you take them? Just like pure end of the end of 1474 01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:15,720 the crowd. He's Isaac. 1475 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,560 He's Isaac Tesla. Yeah, you know, that's I'm just 1476 01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:21,960 going to nuke him, Yeah. Like I'd rather take Jack Bash 1477 01:15:21,960 --> 01:15:24,120 for instance, right? And like, oh I mean I don't 1478 01:15:24,120 --> 01:15:27,160 those are like 4 tiers apart right? 1479 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,920 Like I I'd rather take Jalen Tolbert right now than Jalen 1480 01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:33,040 McMillan. Good God. 1481 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:38,680 That's right, but I hate it. No, David's made a good point 1482 01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:40,640 that just ended the show. The point was too good and. 1483 01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:43,800 And I get. It it was over. 1484 01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,840 People like Jill McMillan, he scored all those touchdowns. 1485 01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,800 Actually, I was arguing with Pete's video editor who has like 1486 01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,680 some of the worst takes on the Internet and he was arguing with 1487 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:58,400 me that McMillan was still a good pick and his his point was 1488 01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:00,600 7 touchdowns in five games. Then the season. 1489 01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,240 When is the last time something like that has been disrespected? 1490 01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:06,400 And the list of guys who have closed out the prior year hot 1491 01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:10,320 and then gone to immediate 0 is like, it's like. 1492 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:11,760 Also like betting on, betting on, you know. 1493 01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:13,760 You know who this. Is also one of the worst things 1494 01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,560 is. The yes, general manager of the 1495 01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,200 Tampa Bay Buccaneers has has really disrespected Jalen Mcmill 1496 01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,520 in this offseason. Yeah, gave $70 million to Chris 1497 01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:25,760 Godwin, spent the 18th pick out of Becky Buca, then even drafted 1498 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:28,440 Tez Johnson because the Bucks have to draft one. 1499 01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:31,280 Sort by yards for team pass the 10th player every single year. 1500 01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,400 It's yeah. It's just the the the best 1501 01:16:36,400 --> 01:16:40,080 recent comp was Zay Jones. Remember how Zay Jones had that 1502 01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,600 crazy end to the year Jacksonville and then like 1503 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,840 literally never played again that it's. 1504 01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:47,560 It's. Well, Johan Dodson had the 1505 01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:50,000 touchdown driven rookie year and we're like, all right, I guess 1506 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,600 we'd have to draft him the sixth round. 1507 01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:56,120 And I was like, Oh no. Zay Jones Zay Jones famously 3 1508 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:59,000 touchdowns against Dallas in the fantasy playoffs. 1509 01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,840 He, along with Jerick McKinnon, who had three touchdowns the 1510 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,840 same day against Houston, lifting Go Bills to a second 1511 01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:10,040 straight main event title. Yeah, 1.16 yards per route run 1512 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,400 for McMillan last year, That's tough. 1513 01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:14,280 Yeah. I mean, it's totally. 1514 01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:17,520 Roma Dunsay. And yeah, it's it's, it's only 1515 01:17:17,600 --> 01:17:20,080 worse than Roma Dunsay. But Chase, Chase Claypool, 1516 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,960 actually another guy who just scored a bazillion touchdowns 1517 01:17:22,960 --> 01:17:24,840 and then went to 0. That's a good one. 1518 01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:27,480 Yeah, that's a really good one. Love to argue with the touchdown 1519 01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:30,440 people. I mean, touchdowns matter. 1520 01:17:30,440 --> 01:17:33,440 You want touchdowns, you want to be thinking about them, but 1521 01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:36,200 they're they can't just be the touchdowns. 1522 01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:39,920 Knox had eight one year and it was yeah. 1523 01:17:40,360 --> 01:17:43,320 And the bills paid them, and they paid a lot of guys that 1524 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:46,120 maybe aren't that good. Oh God dude, Tyler Shuck made 1525 01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:47,880 his way to a graphic. Here we go. 1526 01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,240 It's so dark. Rookie quarterbacks Jackson 1527 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,680 Dart, Tyler Shug Speaking of having that dog in him, He had 1528 01:17:53,680 --> 01:17:55,800 the dog on him when he got picked, by the way. 1529 01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:57,200 That was a cool little scene there. 1530 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,720 Nice and. Dog named Murphy. 1531 01:17:59,720 --> 01:18:01,840 He's got a dog. He's he has a golden retriever 1532 01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:03,680 named Murphy. Yes, we both have golden. 1533 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,040 Oh my God. He's the new mascot of Leg Up. 1534 01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,920 Yeah. So I might, I might have to. 1535 01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:11,080 We we both have golden retrievers named Murphy. 1536 01:18:11,080 --> 01:18:14,000 I might have to reevaluate my perspective. 1537 01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:15,760 You guys hit someone in the girl, Murphy. 1538 01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:19,400 Too several podcasts. I've got the Doodle Boy Murphy, 1539 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,840 which is a different, different flavor of dog Murphy, but the 1540 01:18:22,040 --> 01:18:24,440 yeah, the. Same dog name by the way. 1541 01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:25,600 I don't think I've ever asked this. 1542 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:27,600 Like are you both just really into interstellar? 1543 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,960 Are you like into each other? Like what's the scenario? 1544 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,160 Beatbestball.com is a great site. 1545 01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:38,560 It's named No, I, I my, my Murphy predates me knowing Liam 1546 01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:41,400 Murphy. But I don't think Liam. 1547 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,360 I don't think, I don't think Davis does. 1548 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,120 I think you named your dog after meeting Liam. 1549 01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:48,440 It was, I mean, it was my, it was my wife's idea. 1550 01:18:48,440 --> 01:18:52,120 We thought we were getting a boy dog and we showed up to go pick 1551 01:18:52,120 --> 01:18:56,000 our dog out at the farm and there was one girl dog left and 1552 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:58,360 we were like, oh, we, we like, we prefer girl dogs. 1553 01:18:58,360 --> 01:19:00,840 So we just kept the name. Nice. 1554 01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:05,040 Jacob, my dog is named Margot for a wine drinking Niagara on 1555 01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:08,080 the lake. It's and my daughter and my wife 1556 01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,160 and daughter were coming home with the puppy and I said just 1557 01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,400 my only my only ask is that the name have some sort of Canadian 1558 01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:16,280 connotation to it. It's like it's too late. 1559 01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:17,360 The dog's name is going to be Margot. 1560 01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:21,480 I'm like that's perfect. So just to be our feel included. 1561 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:24,640 He's half Irish setter, so that was kind of the Irish, it's sort 1562 01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,840 of Irish nod and he's red, so that's how. 1563 01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:32,200 Margot the Pug. Close is close enough. 1564 01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,680 You could still call it Murphy in your head, Mike. 1565 01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:38,160 Yeah, do I? I didn't get a dog that starts 1566 01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:40,160 an M to remain on this show is what I'm hearing. 1567 01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,160 Yes. Do they do they let you do that 1568 01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,320 in Canada now? Are you allowed get? 1569 01:19:45,320 --> 01:19:46,560 Dogs. Yeah, yeah. 1570 01:19:46,600 --> 01:19:47,760 You know, I thought you had to have to express. 1571 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:48,880 We have. That dog in US? 1572 01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:52,480 I thought, I thought what I, what I've been reading is that, 1573 01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:54,520 you know, you just can't do anything without governmental 1574 01:19:54,520 --> 01:19:56,320 permission in Canada. It's basically, you know, a 1575 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:59,120 communist. Former Yeah, four more years of 1576 01:19:59,120 --> 01:20:06,640 communism, baby. Congrats brother, naming a dog 1577 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,280 before you've met it and have it in your home is weird. 1578 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:12,160 What are you you bringing nameless dogs in your house? 1579 01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:12,640 Pepper. Tony. 1580 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,440 Yeah, what? Are you talking about? 1581 01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,600 What are you calling? There's just a an animal that's 1582 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,160 just an animal if it doesn't have a name. 1583 01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,920 Yeah, you just call it dog. You got to get a feel for it 1584 01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:23,160 first, he's saying. I get over. 1585 01:20:23,720 --> 01:20:25,880 Here. You got to get a sense of the 1586 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:31,000 personality. I've only ever had I've only 1587 01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:34,480 ever had shelter dogs before, so like all my other dogs I've ever 1588 01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:35,520 had already had a. Name. 1589 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:39,920 This was this was the first time like my like wife's cousin knows 1590 01:20:39,920 --> 01:20:43,040 this gal who just like has a golden retriever and she has 1591 01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,280 like 1 litter a year and sells them. 1592 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,240 So it was my first time ever like buying a dog. 1593 01:20:49,640 --> 01:20:53,720 And I think you and that's an and that scenario you it's comes 1594 01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:56,920 pre line up with the name. We only had one dog when I was a 1595 01:20:56,920 --> 01:20:58,560 kid. I haven't got one to move to BC, 1596 01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:02,360 but yeah, like I had the name ready to ready to go well before 1597 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,320 we got the dog. Took the dog home, called it by 1598 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:06,320 its name. Yeah. 1599 01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,240 The all time dog name. Nameless Dog is a good band 1600 01:21:10,240 --> 01:21:11,800 name. Nameless dogs. 1601 01:21:11,800 --> 01:21:13,560 The nameless dogs. You could do the nameless. 1602 01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:15,360 Dogs. You'd be nameless dogs. 1603 01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:17,800 Either way, it's really good Foo Fighters stuff. 1604 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,720 Foo. Fighters Bill Simmons has a dog 1605 01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,600 named Murphy, which actually is so. 1606 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:25,840 It's a great name, hey? Bill, how's your how's your dog 1607 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,600 doing? Murphy Yeah, we're trying to 1608 01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,160 plot each trainer a little bit, but you know, she's coming 1609 01:21:31,160 --> 01:21:34,480 along. I love Bill Simmons. 1610 01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:36,720 Couldn't be couldn't be a a bigger. 1611 01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,120 All time dog name Steven Wright his dog's name. 1612 01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:42,240 What's a joke? But his dog's name was Stay. 1613 01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:45,680 Oh, that's really good. Oh nice, that is good. 1614 01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:51,080 Jackson Dart, Tyler Shug, Jalen Milroe Question on the screen. 1615 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,280 Any of these quarterbacks draftable in best ball? 1616 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:57,480 Of course Dart is. Dart is very draftable, but not 1617 01:21:57,480 --> 01:22:02,000 someone. Yeah, Shuck is draftable I 1618 01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:05,800 guess, but I don't. Is he the Week 1 starter 1619 01:22:05,800 --> 01:22:06,440 favorite? Why? 1620 01:22:06,880 --> 01:22:08,600 In New Orleans. Yeah, Nick, Nick Underhill said 1621 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:11,600 he would be absolutely shocked if Tyler Shuck is not the Week 1 1622 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,280 starter. He did, yeah. 1623 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:18,280 Who else would it be? Well, Derek Carr. 1624 01:22:18,280 --> 01:22:21,280 But Carr, it seems like no. But no, right. 1625 01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:22,520 I mean, that's that's. Broken. 1626 01:22:22,520 --> 01:22:24,680 It's just, it's just over. It's just not happening. 1627 01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:28,000 I think so. Yeah. 1628 01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:32,320 I mean, I don't know why it's over like but but I. 1629 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:34,120 There's more to that story, you're right. 1630 01:22:34,360 --> 01:22:36,680 I I trust whatever is getting reported. 1631 01:22:36,680 --> 01:22:43,160 So I I think it's going to be shock and I think he sucks, but 1632 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:46,200 I do think he's draftable. I mean, if he's going to start 1633 01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:51,520 week 1, you know, and it's like we put it, I didn't even realize 1634 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:57,280 that you had of age at 43. Good catch. 1635 01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:06,320 Oh. Man, Derek Carr was this is a 1636 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,080 good bit. Derek Carr spoke at his church 1637 01:23:09,080 --> 01:23:12,920 this weekend and basically did like the New Orleans Saints or 1638 01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:15,640 the devil like the new like the the New Orleans Saints 1639 01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,840 organization is the is the devil in my life like holding me down 1640 01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:22,480 like a truly incredible bit? Seriously. 1641 01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:24,880 Wow. Yes, Lord, why are you giving me 1642 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:27,240 your toughest battles? Like he yes, he was like, why is 1643 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:28,360 this happening to me? Like. 1644 01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:32,240 And his battle, his battle was being a New Orleans St. 1645 01:23:32,480 --> 01:23:35,680 effectively. Was this just we all, you know, 1646 01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:38,000 you're well, come on up. And if you have something to say 1647 01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:39,360 here at church today, come on up. 1648 01:23:39,360 --> 01:23:41,680 Or it's just like, here's our invited guests, our special 1649 01:23:41,840 --> 01:23:44,760 Derek Carr. I assume like I assume he goes 1650 01:23:44,760 --> 01:23:47,560 to a mega church so I assume it was like he was like the 1651 01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:49,240 scheduled. Mega and mega. 1652 01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:52,120 Yeah. Is he a good get for a church as 1653 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:53,920 a speaker? Sure, dude is. 1654 01:23:54,280 --> 01:23:57,280 Derek Carr a good get and. I think he's a pretty good get, 1655 01:23:57,360 --> 01:23:59,480 yeah. I wasn't going to go to church 1656 01:23:59,480 --> 01:24:01,840 this week, but I am now because Derek Carr is speaking. 1657 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:04,400 My local church said that Derek Carr would be delivering a 1658 01:24:04,400 --> 01:24:06,160 sermon. I'd go. 1659 01:24:06,200 --> 01:24:08,920 I'd be interested to hear. I would go I would go check it 1660 01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:11,000 out like. We need a leg up quarterback 1661 01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:13,080 rankings. We need a leg up quarterback 1662 01:24:13,080 --> 01:24:16,640 rankings based on how excited would you be if you heard they 1663 01:24:16,640 --> 01:24:18,360 were speaking at your church this weekend? 1664 01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:22,600 I would bring my laptop and adjust the ranks as they were 1665 01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:24,320 speaking. That was my, that's my promise 1666 01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,360 to you. I would be in abuse as Derek 1667 01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,080 Carr rails on the Saints, lowering his odds of playing for 1668 01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:32,120 the Saints. That's honey. 1669 01:24:32,120 --> 01:24:35,040 Did you hear there's going to be an NFL quarterback speaking at 1670 01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,720 church on Sunday? Oh really? 1671 01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,120 Who? Russ? 1672 01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:42,440 No, I would be really. Low on my rankings. 1673 01:24:42,480 --> 01:24:43,760 I would skip Russ. I don't. 1674 01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,040 We have to go. Isn't there a picnic? 1675 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,880 There has to be some uncertainty about what will happen, which is 1676 01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:53,080 why Jackson Dart is a good pick. Got us back on the rails. 1677 01:24:53,080 --> 01:24:55,680 You see that Jackson Dart, he's starting at the end of the year. 1678 01:24:56,280 --> 01:24:58,960 The whole organization's built around getting this guy on the 1679 01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,320 field by the end of the year at this point. 1680 01:25:02,160 --> 01:25:06,440 Well, the whole organization is in two people like this is this 1681 01:25:06,440 --> 01:25:09,840 is a for dynasty. I'm pretty sketched about the 1682 01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,920 slanting spot because I think there's a chance that he plays 1683 01:25:11,920 --> 01:25:14,360 like six games. Isn't that good? 1684 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:17,480 They fire the only people who had investment in him and they 1685 01:25:17,480 --> 01:25:20,160 bring in a new GM who just summarily replaces him. 1686 01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:23,680 But in basketball you don't have to worry about any of that. 1687 01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,960 So I I agree, I think he starts sooner than later. 1688 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:31,880 They're they're the only two paths for Dabel to save. 1689 01:25:31,880 --> 01:25:36,680 His job is is 1 make the playoffs or two, make Dart look 1690 01:25:36,680 --> 01:25:39,040 so good that they want to keep him around, to keep developing 1691 01:25:39,040 --> 01:25:40,240 him. Yeah, so. 1692 01:25:40,480 --> 01:25:43,160 Which is a better? Path and that's a better path 1693 01:25:43,240 --> 01:25:45,200 and I think he probably is is smart enough to know that's a 1694 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,920 better path. They said Russ is the starter. 1695 01:25:47,920 --> 01:25:52,760 I'm sure he will be in week 1, but like once path 1 looks 1696 01:25:52,760 --> 01:25:55,160 unlikely, which should be about by week 4. 1697 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,800 Yep. Then then they're they have to 1698 01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,560 go all in on path 2. So I think we get a lot of dart 1699 01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,440 this year. It's good for everybody. 1700 01:26:02,440 --> 01:26:05,720 I mean, Dabel can coach quarterbacks, so as bleak as 1701 01:26:05,720 --> 01:26:09,280 it's looked for him overall, if that, the Giants would never 1702 01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,880 want to have to replace a coach going into Year 2. 1703 01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:13,400 New system, everything like that. 1704 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,560 You know, on some level this bet is a bet on Debo. 1705 01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:18,800 I think so I agree. I think he plays. 1706 01:26:21,160 --> 01:26:24,120 Yeah. I mean, I think the the thing 1707 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,080 with Dart is like when does he play? 1708 01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:30,040 And then was it worth it eating zeros at one of your quarterback 1709 01:26:30,040 --> 01:26:33,600 spots for that long? Because Dart's at risk of 1710 01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:36,920 missing by weeks of guys that you pair him with. 1711 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:41,760 So you could really, he could really be kind of a drag as far 1712 01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,800 as like you're taking a third quarterback to help with advance 1713 01:26:43,800 --> 01:26:45,880 rate and stuff. Well, he's actually probably 1714 01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:49,200 hurting you there. And then you get to the playoffs 1715 01:26:49,200 --> 01:26:52,560 and now you get this three-week period where it's like, do you 1716 01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:55,560 roll a dart in one of those three weeks and he actually hits 1717 01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:57,920 your line up? And he's not like this super, 1718 01:26:57,920 --> 01:27:02,400 super high upside type of guy. We were like last year with May. 1719 01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:04,640 I'm like, I think this guy's awesome now. 1720 01:27:04,640 --> 01:27:07,200 The situation was so bad it didn't end up working. 1721 01:27:07,200 --> 01:27:11,520 But like dart, I don't feel as like nearly nearly as confident 1722 01:27:11,520 --> 01:27:14,720 in the prospect. I don't hate it, but I don't 1723 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:16,880 think it's like, it's just not something I'm going into drafts 1724 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,360 thinking, oh, Jackson darts have like keep a spot open for 1725 01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:20,520 Jackson Dart or something like that. 1726 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:25,080 Like he's, he's a fine way to add some late season upside, but 1727 01:27:25,080 --> 01:27:27,120 I want to have a really solid quarterback room. 1728 01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:31,880 I want to have like 2 guys like like like a Lawrence Purdy or 1729 01:27:31,880 --> 01:27:33,400 something would be would be great. 1730 01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:36,440 You know totally where you don't even need it. 1731 01:27:36,760 --> 01:27:39,560 I totally agree. Like last year I was going into 1732 01:27:39,560 --> 01:27:42,320 drafts trying to build May stacks and Nick stacks. 1733 01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:46,200 I'm I'm not going to be doing that proactively, but it'll be a 1734 01:27:46,200 --> 01:27:48,120 thing where on teams that I haven't leaked neighbors 1735 01:27:48,120 --> 01:27:51,600 already. If he happens to fit, I'm I'm 1736 01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,240 open, he'll be in my queue and I'm open to tacking him on. 1737 01:27:54,800 --> 01:27:59,960 Yeah. Milrose chances of getting in. 1738 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,560 I mean, I think low, low, but possible. 1739 01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:10,480 Like I would say, I guess I would say probably it's like a 1740 01:28:10,480 --> 01:28:14,440 20% chance that he's starting by the team's choice in the 1741 01:28:14,440 --> 01:28:18,440 playoffs and then you maybe add another 10 to 15% for injury. 1742 01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:22,840 And so probably you wind up with like a one in three shot that he 1743 01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,320 starts the last three weeks of the season for either injury or 1744 01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:31,120 choice reasons. And that's it's something a leaf 1745 01:28:31,120 --> 01:28:36,360 with Milro, unlike shock, especially and Dart even like if 1746 01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,720 he's starting right. If if Sam Darwin was out for the 1747 01:28:39,720 --> 01:28:42,720 year tomorrow and they announced Jalen Milro as a starting 1748 01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:47,320 quarterback for the season, he'd probably go where Round nine? 1749 01:28:48,120 --> 01:28:53,040 Round 8. I mean probably after fields. 1750 01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:56,800 But a little later you go like around we, we, we weren't taking 1751 01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,960 Daniels till like round 10. I around 9:10. 1752 01:28:59,960 --> 01:29:04,120 So I think he'd go like 11-12. And this guy didn't win the 1753 01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:08,120 Heisman, so they didn't have a they did have a very popular 1754 01:29:08,120 --> 01:29:11,000 draft with Emin Wari in the second round. 1755 01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:15,680 Offensive line, then him you add Arroyo, a tight end. 1756 01:29:16,200 --> 01:29:18,240 And Tory and Tory Horton. And Tory. 1757 01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:20,960 Hortons, yeah. This is going to seem. 1758 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,440 And Ricky White. This is going to seem unfair but 1759 01:29:24,440 --> 01:29:26,920 I really don't think it is. Like maybe from a ceiling 1760 01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:31,240 perspective is, but if Jordan Love was out for the for the 1761 01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:35,040 year and Malik Willis was announced as the starter, where 1762 01:29:35,040 --> 01:29:36,920 would he go? I think it's. 1763 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:40,520 It's the devil. It's the devil you do know 1764 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,600 versus the devil, right? We only think we. 1765 01:29:42,600 --> 01:29:45,840 Can dream on mill row. We we know Malik Willis is bad. 1766 01:29:46,760 --> 01:29:48,320 Yeah, but we also know Malik Willis to. 1767 01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:51,960 Operate the offense and they they'll play him and they can 1768 01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:53,400 win games with him. So like. 1769 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:55,920 But they don't give them throwing 11 passes. 1770 01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:00,440 Yeah, but like Millro, Millro might be so bad that he gets 1771 01:30:00,440 --> 01:30:02,680 benched for whoever the third Stringer is. 1772 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:06,680 Drew Lock. Never mind he he might. 1773 01:30:06,680 --> 01:30:07,760 Be. Yeah. 1774 01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:12,280 How old is rated? But like, you're not. 1775 01:30:12,280 --> 01:30:15,560 You're not drafting Jalen Millroe worrying about if he 1776 01:30:15,560 --> 01:30:18,880 might be bad like you. The only reason you're ever 1777 01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:20,360 drafting Jalen. Millroe, I'm worried he might be 1778 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,960 bad if he was like an 11th or 12th round pick to that part, 1779 01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:24,960 but yeah, yeah, I. Hear I hear anyway, I'm I'm 1780 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,200 probably not going to draft Millroe. 1781 01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,760 I just don't think that it's I think it's too thin like we're 1782 01:30:30,760 --> 01:30:33,880 saying, right? You're you're hoping for a 1783 01:30:33,880 --> 01:30:37,800 roughly one in three outcome so that you get what would be a 1784 01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,800 risky round 11 quarterback. Yes, yes, for maybe a few games. 1785 01:30:42,120 --> 01:30:44,480 Yes. So yeah, don't, don't. 1786 01:30:44,480 --> 01:30:46,600 That was my whole point. It's still risky in the 11th 1787 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,120 round, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1788 01:30:50,480 --> 01:30:53,760 Not on the graphic, but what about Pittsburgh's? 1789 01:30:53,840 --> 01:30:55,800 Is it Will Howard? Pittsburgh. 1790 01:30:56,960 --> 01:30:59,600 They're going to sign they're. Going to sign Rogers I think. 1791 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,640 If you if you, if they somehow don't then maybe in like late 1792 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:04,440 August I'll stay on Mill Rd. too. 1793 01:31:04,440 --> 01:31:06,120 Like I'm not even drafting. They would trade for cousins I 1794 01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:08,720 think. And, and Anthony Richardson is 1795 01:31:08,720 --> 01:31:12,840 kind of the Mill Rd. bet and like almost certainly will start 1796 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:16,400 some games and, and might might start all 17 games. 1797 01:31:16,400 --> 01:31:19,360 It's it's at least possible. And I I don't even want to draft 1798 01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,600 him at all. So like to me, you know, Melrose 1799 01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,040 a materially, I mean you could at least say maybe he's better 1800 01:31:25,040 --> 01:31:28,200 than Andy Richardson, but like it's probably a similar style of 1801 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:30,520 that with. Like, I think Richardson's like 1802 01:31:30,520 --> 01:31:33,240 a way better pick. I think Richardson's a way 1803 01:31:33,240 --> 01:31:36,280 better pick than Melrose because the thing with Richardson is, so 1804 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,520 he's going now in the one 70s, we're like 10 spots behind ADP. 1805 01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:43,280 But like in a situation where he might, you know, be there if you 1806 01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:46,600 need that that third quarterback or or whatever is, you know, a 1807 01:31:46,640 --> 01:31:49,520 little boost of upside, he gives you kind of upset. 1808 01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,840 I don't know when he's playing this year and I know he's not 1809 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:54,560 going to play all the games most likely. 1810 01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:59,360 But he could spike for you in a really helpful with like he 1811 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:03,200 could be a weirdly good advance rate piece if you use him as a 1812 01:32:03,480 --> 01:32:07,200 1/3 quarterback. And then who knows, like he 1813 01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:11,720 could be one of the guys who starts for you in in weeks 1516 1814 01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:15,280 or 17. So he's so cheap and you don't 1815 01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:17,840 have, it's not like this. You're not having to like open 1816 01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,520 your third eye and see like the Seahawks miss in the playoffs 1817 01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:24,320 and Jalen Melrose, their starter now like he's he's just in a 1818 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:26,280 competition with Daniel Jones and they're both going to make 1819 01:32:26,280 --> 01:32:28,680 starts this year in the vast majority of of outcomes. 1820 01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:31,640 So and when he plays he he scores pretty well. 1821 01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,600 Tyler Shug, age 43, ought to be 43. 1822 01:32:36,600 --> 01:32:39,960 Again, Imagine Aaron Rodgers speaking at your church. 1823 01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,080 By the way, imagine Aaron Rodger speaking at your church. 1824 01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,120 Oh God, that would be inseparable. 1825 01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:49,960 Let's move to a new church. I'm out. 1826 01:32:49,960 --> 01:32:52,160 Zach made some to. Be speaking at the Church of 1827 01:32:52,160 --> 01:32:56,760 Scientology. Yeah, Zach made some graphics on 1828 01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,040 the rookies, just like some spreadsheet stuff. 1829 01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:02,600 Want to take a quick look and maybe RIP through these starting 1830 01:33:02,600 --> 01:33:07,000 with the running backs ranked by draft capital and then you have 1831 01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,520 Pat's leg up rankings also shown there. 1832 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,080 Age, production, PFF, everything. 1833 01:33:16,040 --> 01:33:18,160 Who's the best? What do I want to ask? 1834 01:33:18,160 --> 01:33:19,560 Who's the best running back pick? 1835 01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:22,120 What? Tooten in early 4 is really fun 1836 01:33:22,120 --> 01:33:24,800 and complicated. Yeah, that's very fun. 1837 01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:28,360 Tooten was the best pick. Best use of draft capital from 1838 01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:33,720 the team, Immediate usage. I also think DJ Giddens. 1839 01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,920 DJ Giddens was pretty smart. Just why couldn't they have 1840 01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,000 swapped running backs with the Cowboys though? 1841 01:33:40,280 --> 01:33:42,960 Like for sure could have a fun little pass down back. 1842 01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,120 The Cowboys would get a plausible workhorse. 1843 01:33:45,120 --> 01:33:47,800 Oh God. I know it doesn't Cowboys. 1844 01:33:47,800 --> 01:33:50,160 Cowboys have a plausible workhorse buddy. 1845 01:33:51,280 --> 01:33:54,560 Hey, hey Jacob, where did DJ Giddins go? 1846 01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,680 Kansas State University. And and where did Jaden Blue go? 1847 01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,880 Texas, Texas, but but the but Dallas just drafted a running 1848 01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:05,320 back from Kansas State last year. 1849 01:34:05,320 --> 01:34:06,640 It's just it was a NEPA running back. 1850 01:34:08,440 --> 01:34:12,240 I already I've already had one person pull up in my YouTube 1851 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:16,000 comments being like dude, it's Dusvan Susan like dude, his dad 1852 01:34:16,000 --> 01:34:18,360 couldn't even make him a thing on a team that couldn't win. 1853 01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,080 Although we did get one game of the Trey Lance, Dusvan backfield 1854 01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:25,760 other I got I. Got another up ranking on on 1855 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:27,840 Jayden Blue, 'cause we gotta have that. 1856 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,760 This is ridiculous. That's gotta go way up. 1857 01:34:31,520 --> 01:34:34,280 I've got him in the ones I know that I'm in an enviable position 1858 01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,960 of of not having rankings yet. So I just get to criticize other 1859 01:34:36,960 --> 01:34:39,920 people's hard work. It's actually helpful to help. 1860 01:34:40,960 --> 01:34:44,880 But like Jayden Blue, like I understand that he isn't really 1861 01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:46,720 a running back kind of in the same way we're talking about 1862 01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:49,080 Woody Marks. I think he's less not a real 1863 01:34:49,080 --> 01:34:51,800 running back than Woody Marks. Like he has some decent metrics 1864 01:34:51,960 --> 01:34:54,960 as a runner and he's also really fast and he's legitimately 1865 01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:57,440 awesome receiving back. I thought he was the best 1866 01:34:57,440 --> 01:35:02,400 receiving back in the class and he's competing with two total 1867 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,720 dust balls. And I guess there's still Chubb 1868 01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:06,240 out there, there's still Dobbins out there. 1869 01:35:06,520 --> 01:35:09,120 I think teams like the bears, I think teams like the Chiefs are 1870 01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:10,800 more of a threat to sign those guys. 1871 01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:14,440 I think Dallas is like so ambivalent towards the position 1872 01:35:14,440 --> 01:35:16,840 that I actually think the most likely, definitely not a 1873 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:20,920 certain, but I would say like in 60 to 70% of scenarios they're 1874 01:35:20,920 --> 01:35:23,960 running back depth chart in week 1 is Miles Sanders, Devante 1875 01:35:23,960 --> 01:35:26,720 Williams and Jayden Blue and to me, blue should go the highest 1876 01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,880 of the bunch. I, I'm, I would love to take 1877 01:35:28,880 --> 01:35:32,040 that bet on Jayden Blue. Like I know those other guys are 1878 01:35:32,040 --> 01:35:35,320 not NFL players at all. If, if Blue is going to go like 1879 01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:37,360 at this range, he'd be my highest drafted player in the 1880 01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,000 whole tournament. Yep. 1881 01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,320 All right, so I found your argument engaging and convincing 1882 01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:45,640 and I actually moved him up into the late one 50s. 1883 01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,200 But Shope is pulling up a Sporkel. 1884 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:53,280 So I don't think, yeah, Shope's just zoning out playing, playing 1885 01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:57,440 Sporkel, so. I was just, I'm just, you know, 1886 01:35:57,560 --> 01:35:59,840 planning ahead. Davis didn't get to play map 1887 01:35:59,840 --> 01:36:02,320 chase sing last time. That's all we're doing. 1888 01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:03,120 I'm listening. I'm. 1889 01:36:03,360 --> 01:36:09,880 Listening to the other. I'm listening. 158 I think 1890 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:15,280 because the thing about Blue is I just he's not going to really 1891 01:36:15,280 --> 01:36:17,720 add anything for you at the beginning of the season. 1892 01:36:17,720 --> 01:36:22,560 I like maybe he is immediately kind of the passing down back, 1893 01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:27,560 but I don't know, like they could in a way that like matters 1894 01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:29,400 for fantasy. I'm that's the part where I'm 1895 01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:33,320 like he he might just he might have to earn it over time and 1896 01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:36,360 then what he earns is like not particularly high upside. 1897 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,400 He's probably like a rotational guy, but. 1898 01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:43,200 Why can't he be Rico Dowdle? You were the Rico Dowdle guy 1899 01:36:43,200 --> 01:36:44,760 last. Year he can definitely be Rico 1900 01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:48,760 Dowdle, Pat. Why can't he be Tyrone Tracy 1901 01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:50,160 from last year, but on the Cowboys? 1902 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,680 I think he can be Rico Dowdle too, but isn't that a 20-30 1903 01:36:53,680 --> 01:37:00,320 concern? OK, if you Recon that more it 1904 01:37:00,320 --> 01:37:02,200 takes until you're 4. Got it. 1905 01:37:02,200 --> 01:37:05,280 The more the more legit com is. Like Tyrone Tracy was also kind 1906 01:37:05,280 --> 01:37:08,400 of like a more athlete than running back. 1907 01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:12,640 Fun kind of profile though. Goes in round five play next to 1908 01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:14,880 Singletary. I mean Singletary is better than 1909 01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:19,560 Javonte and Miles Sanders and the blue gets to do it on the 1910 01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:20,240 Cowboys. Like why? 1911 01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,960 Why couldn't he be Tracy? Why couldn't he start getting 1912 01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:27,000 worse? Dowdell's like 216 lbs. 1913 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,160 He he literally weighs 20 lbs more than Blue. 1914 01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:33,480 Dowdle was like a Dowdle was built for what Dowdle became. 1915 01:37:33,480 --> 01:37:35,840 But Jaden Blue's like a a passing down back. 1916 01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,640 I don't I don't know. I mean, maybe he could be like 1917 01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,480 the Bucky. Maybe he's. 1918 01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,160 He could be he. Yeah, I mean, he's not Bucky, 1919 01:37:44,200 --> 01:37:47,280 but like, he could be. Yeah, the problem is he's just 1920 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,080 like, not Bucky at all. And. 1921 01:37:49,120 --> 01:37:52,200 And Bucky was like, like a better prospect. 1922 01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:55,120 But he was one of those guys who who, like, popped in my stuff. 1923 01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:56,960 And I was like, yeah, but he's small. 1924 01:37:57,520 --> 01:37:58,960 Yeah. Like, I've been rug pulled on 1925 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,600 this guy so many times. Blue does not pop. 1926 01:38:02,240 --> 01:38:04,000 Blue does not really pop for me at all. 1927 01:38:04,360 --> 01:38:05,960 He's he looks like a satellite back. 1928 01:38:07,160 --> 01:38:12,360 He doesn't for me either, but like I do think he's, I do think 1929 01:38:12,360 --> 01:38:15,160 he's at least good at a thing. Like I, I do think he's 1930 01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,680 legitimately good passing down back and that that should get 1931 01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,840 him on the field and on any other backfield. 1932 01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,440 Like I would be dismissive of him doing anything more than 1933 01:38:24,440 --> 01:38:26,800 that. But like, I don't know if it 1934 01:38:26,840 --> 01:38:29,760 were my team and it was like, well, my choices are a guy who's 1935 01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:32,360 undersized and isn't really an early down back, but he's really 1936 01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:36,400 fast and he can catch the ball. Or I can play the worst running 1937 01:38:36,400 --> 01:38:39,320 backs in the NFL. And it's like, I would rather 1938 01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:44,000 play like the incomplete fast guy than a guy who just had like 1939 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:47,280 3.4 yards per carry behind the league's best ranked run 1940 01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,840 blocking offensive line. That was a pretty convincing 1941 01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,320 argument. They did. 1942 01:38:52,360 --> 01:38:52,960 I actually. Think. 1943 01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:55,480 I actually think I might even rather have vile Sanders than 1944 01:38:55,480 --> 01:38:56,920 Javante. I don't understand the Javante 1945 01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:58,680 price at all. He was the worst running back in 1946 01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:02,680 the league for two years. You guys, the thing that we all 1947 01:39:02,680 --> 01:39:07,040 really need to do a better job of is running back points for 1948 01:39:07,040 --> 01:39:10,600 these guys who are all at best replacement level are 1949 01:39:10,600 --> 01:39:15,320 effectively random and based on the whims of the coaching staff. 1950 01:39:17,640 --> 01:39:20,400 So if they just if they want to give the ball to Javonte 210 1951 01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:22,840 times, I mean, we're talking about the same coaching staff 1952 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,600 that. It's like the argument for Zeke 1953 01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:27,680 last year. Right, but Zeke had picked 150 1954 01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:29,480 is fine. That's a winning win. 1955 01:39:29,480 --> 01:39:31,720 Wasn't. Fine, it wasn't a winning pick. 1956 01:39:31,880 --> 01:39:33,680 He did. He did nothing last year. 1957 01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:36,360 Well, he got cut. What did? 1958 01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:37,160 What did Zeke? What did? 1959 01:39:37,480 --> 01:39:40,960 He do. So Zeke, that's only because he 1960 01:39:40,960 --> 01:39:45,320 got cut. Zeke totally dead last year, but 1961 01:39:45,360 --> 01:39:50,400 if you got his his 2023 stats where he generated 955 yards and 1962 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:53,680 five touchdowns. Perfectly cromulent at at the 1963 01:39:53,680 --> 01:39:58,800 prices for any of these guys. It's hard to know, as you're 1964 01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:05,200 saying, receivers. I love how Pat was like right 1965 01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:06,680 dead in the he's listening to Jacob. 1966 01:40:06,680 --> 01:40:09,160 Jacob's making all the, you know, Jaden blue arguments and 1967 01:40:09,160 --> 01:40:10,680 everything like that. And then Pat's like, oh, map. 1968 01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,280 What do you That's what you did? You put it this, I didn't put it 1969 01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:16,640 on the screen. Yeah, yeah, I know. 1970 01:40:16,680 --> 01:40:18,720 It's like this is really, man, this is. 1971 01:40:18,960 --> 01:40:21,520 I hadn't considered this that I just see Sporkle pop up. 1972 01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:23,240 You are so ready. I'm. 1973 01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:27,240 Listening closer to the show, Let's go where is Tonga? 1974 01:40:27,240 --> 01:40:31,520 Where is. Tonga. 1975 01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:34,560 Oh God, would you take him? You're not taking him ahead of 1976 01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,640 like the one 50s though are you? Blue. 1977 01:40:36,640 --> 01:40:39,680 Why not? I will take him in the one 50s 1978 01:40:39,680 --> 01:40:41,400 here, yeah. I'll take him ahead of that. 1979 01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:43,480 I mean, that's right. I got him into the one 50s. 1980 01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,360 Well, I'll. Take him ahead of that, but I 1981 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:49,800 have to take him ahead of that. I don't have to yet, so I'll do 1982 01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:50,920 it. I'll cross that bridge. 1983 01:40:52,240 --> 01:40:55,400 That's a blue the the. Argument is simply that we know 1984 01:40:55,400 --> 01:40:57,240 Miles Sanders and Javonte have no juice. 1985 01:40:57,240 --> 01:41:00,520 Blue's probably a bad player, but he might not be. 1986 01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:01,680 He he might. He might. 1987 01:41:01,720 --> 01:41:04,480 He's the only one who has any juice, so he's the only one who 1988 01:41:04,480 --> 01:41:08,400 has the ability to add anything dynamic to the run game. 1989 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,160 And sometimes that's convincing to coaches. 1990 01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:14,840 Sometimes it isn't. Wide receivers, we've talked 1991 01:41:14,840 --> 01:41:17,600 about a few of them. Not much on what Houston did 1992 01:41:18,640 --> 01:41:23,600 with Higgins and Noel. How do you look at that one? 1993 01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:25,880 I thought that was, I thought that was smart. 1994 01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:28,440 I think Christian Kirk is like the worst pick on the board 1995 01:41:28,440 --> 01:41:31,520 right now. And even, well, even if 1996 01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,360 Christian Kirk starts the year as a starter, is he ending it? 1997 01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:37,680 He, he's, he's out, he's out playing both these guys. 1998 01:41:37,680 --> 01:41:44,200 I I think very little chance. I do love that Davis is like 2 1999 01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:46,480 minutes ago. It's like, look man, I get 2000 01:41:46,480 --> 01:41:48,640 Javonte and Miles Sanders are the worst running backs in the 2001 01:41:48,640 --> 01:41:50,560 league, but like, they'll probably just keep playing them. 2002 01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:53,200 But now it's like, now it's Christian Kirk and you're like, 2003 01:41:53,280 --> 01:41:54,760 they got to get this guy off the field. 2004 01:41:54,800 --> 01:41:57,960 Like, well, the Texans actually so, so key difference here. 2005 01:41:57,960 --> 01:42:00,320 The Cowboys games will have no stakes because they're a bad 2006 01:42:00,320 --> 01:42:02,400 team and they'll be out of it. The Texans games are going to 2007 01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,880 have stakes. These are going to be week a 2008 01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:06,800 Week 10 Texans game is going to matter. 2009 01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:09,400 The Cowboys are going to have like three wins in Week 10. 2010 01:42:10,440 --> 01:42:12,240 Really, I think I'm gonna do, I'm just gonna do what I always 2011 01:42:12,240 --> 01:42:14,040 do with the Cowboys. I'm just gonna ping pong. 2012 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:15,720 You know, like 2 years ago, everybody said they were 2013 01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:18,640 hopeless and bad and I was all in last year people were like, 2014 01:42:18,640 --> 01:42:20,440 oh, it'll be fine. I was like, actually it's pretty 2015 01:42:20,440 --> 01:42:22,400 fragile this year. People are hopeless again. 2016 01:42:22,480 --> 01:42:24,000 I'm back in on the Cowboys this year. 2017 01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,880 Like I I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna ping pong with them 2018 01:42:28,160 --> 01:42:29,560 Texans. I, I tend to agree. 2019 01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:34,480 I think I like, I've always liked Jason Kirk more than it's 2020 01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:40,080 is is responsible to do, but. Oh my bad. 2021 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:42,000 Take a look at that. Sorry, Jacob. 2022 01:42:43,200 --> 01:42:45,440 Yeah, no, I I agree with Davis. I was giving him a hard time, 2023 01:42:45,440 --> 01:42:48,720 but I I agree that Christian Kirk is a high risk pick. 2024 01:42:49,040 --> 01:42:53,920 And what, what, what reward are you getting for the risk for 2025 01:42:54,040 --> 01:42:56,960 five catches for 61 yards on 1/2 PPR site? 2026 01:42:56,960 --> 01:42:58,920 It's probably not probably not worth that risk. 2027 01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,280 So. So how do they line up? 2028 01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:02,600 How do they line up Week 1 on offense? 2029 01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:07,960 Kirk slot Collin, Zach Higgins flanker I'm guessing and the 2030 01:43:08,640 --> 01:43:10,800 whole is going to have to try to work on. 2031 01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:13,920 I mean, Noel has two paths, right? 2032 01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,200 The paths are well, three I guess. 2033 01:43:16,520 --> 01:43:20,560 One is anyone gets injured, 2 is Higgins is a bust so they 2034 01:43:20,560 --> 01:43:24,400 eventually let him try it out and then three is he passes 2035 01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:28,880 Kirk. Davis, how do you feel about go 2036 01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:32,080 ahead? I think that week one could look 2037 01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:36,760 like Higgins is out there playing some flanker, kicks into 2038 01:43:36,760 --> 01:43:39,880 the slot a little bit, Kirk moves outside, play some flanker 2039 01:43:40,080 --> 01:43:41,720 and then Knowles in that mix too. 2040 01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:46,240 And you kind of have like Kirk is the functional wide receiver 2041 01:43:46,240 --> 01:43:48,880 too with like 70th percent round participation. 2042 01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:53,280 And the other guys are like in a committee as they sort of sorted 2043 01:43:53,280 --> 01:43:56,920 out Higgins leaving. But like you'd have, as we think 2044 01:43:56,920 --> 01:43:59,720 about like the normal ramp up period for rookie wide 2045 01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:03,000 receivers, it's usually that it's like a veteran coming down 2046 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,000 and a rookie coming up. But like, they could just like 2047 01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:08,920 throw both the rookies out there and give them little chunks of 2048 01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:12,720 of, you know, combined role in a sense. 2049 01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:15,360 Davis, how do you feel about Royals? 2050 01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:20,280 I mean, I feel about Royals that there's going to be a lot of 2051 01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:22,400 people who are really excited there. 2052 01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:25,560 There was a quote going around yesterday where Veitch was like, 2053 01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,240 oh, you know, Rice working back from an injury. 2054 01:44:27,240 --> 01:44:31,880 We're really excited. The top comp in JJ Zakaris and 2055 01:44:31,880 --> 01:44:35,520 ZAP prospecting model for Jalen Royals was Rashi Rice. 2056 01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:40,480 He's going to be the Chiefs wide receiver, wrote. 2057 01:44:40,480 --> 01:44:46,560 Like rotational wide receiver 5. He's not a good pick, but it's 2058 01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:48,960 fun. It's fun to think about what if. 2059 01:44:49,880 --> 01:44:51,320 You guys may are you guys may have seen. 2060 01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:54,560 Wondering if you want to toss a round three dynasty dart at like 2061 01:44:54,560 --> 01:44:57,800 a three O 9 I? I don't think he should be a 2062 01:44:57,800 --> 01:45:00,120 basketball consideration. I, I would rather, I would 2063 01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,320 rather like he's. Ripping it up in camp and he's 2064 01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,360 gonna like I I want to hear good news on. 2065 01:45:04,360 --> 01:45:05,440 Him. Oh, you'll get that. 2066 01:45:05,440 --> 01:45:07,000 It's the Chiefs. There will be a highlight the 2067 01:45:07,000 --> 01:45:08,560 first day. Yeah, I mean it. 2068 01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:13,160 Was my Copia or my hopium pick on a Chiefs day three guy on 2069 01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:15,800 Burchard Smith? Mm hmm. 2070 01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:20,760 You guys see what happened at WGR, my radio station yesterday 2071 01:45:20,760 --> 01:45:23,480 where the Bills GM called in and kind of went off. 2072 01:45:23,600 --> 01:45:25,800 He was mad. I just saw that. 2073 01:45:26,000 --> 01:45:27,360 Yeah, I heard about it. What happened? 2074 01:45:28,120 --> 01:45:31,160 So our morning show has been, if you will, driving what they call 2075 01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,760 the wide receiver train for a few years now. 2076 01:45:33,760 --> 01:45:36,400 And we've had many conversations about it, whether the Bills 2077 01:45:36,400 --> 01:45:39,080 invest enough, have invested enough at wide receiver. 2078 01:45:39,640 --> 01:45:43,080 And I feel like after this draft where they went again, heavy 2079 01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:46,600 defense, no wide receiver until pick 240. 2080 01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:50,560 And he was hearing criticism of it as he was waiting on hold to 2081 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:52,080 go on for a scheduled appearance. 2082 01:45:52,080 --> 01:45:55,200 And he got on and he's like, you guys bitching about this. 2083 01:45:55,200 --> 01:45:59,160 I mean, he just he just lost it. And and he's just had it with 2084 01:45:59,160 --> 01:46:03,920 people, I guess, talking about how they haven't done more at 2085 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,280 receiver. It's that, but also how they've 2086 01:46:07,280 --> 01:46:08,760 done with the investments they've made. 2087 01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:11,160 That's that's Coleman, that's Kincaid. 2088 01:46:11,160 --> 01:46:14,280 And you know, you have the bills trading with Kansas City, where 2089 01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:17,280 the Chiefs make the worthy pick, not to mention the Mahomes pick 2090 01:46:17,320 --> 01:46:20,080 in 2017. And they've lost to Kansas City 2091 01:46:20,080 --> 01:46:21,880 in the playoffs four times in five years. 2092 01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:25,280 And I think, you know, he kind of broke yesterday. 2093 01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:28,600 Brandon Bean. So it'll that conversation 2094 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:32,280 didn't go away. Yes, yesterday to say the least. 2095 01:46:33,360 --> 01:46:36,520 No. It didn't I mean, I think it's a 2096 01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:39,640 smart real life pick by by the Chiefs for sure. 2097 01:46:39,640 --> 01:46:45,800 I mean Royals is kind of like he's like a gadget guy plus deep 2098 01:46:45,800 --> 01:46:47,120 threat. You know, where you're like, I 2099 01:46:47,120 --> 01:46:51,840 don't know, does can he be like a real receiver and earn 2100 01:46:51,840 --> 01:46:54,160 targets? But gadget player plus deep 2101 01:46:54,160 --> 01:46:58,080 threat is like exactly what the Chiefs need, you know? 2102 01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:01,880 And I he could start ahead of Hollywood by the end of the 2103 01:47:01,880 --> 01:47:02,960 year. That would not shock me. 2104 01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,320 I would have loved it here. I would have loved it here. 2105 01:47:06,080 --> 01:47:10,360 The Bills have drafted 10 dude. Receiver you got 2 developmental 2106 01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,640 blocking tight ends it's. Fun I know well, and you know 2107 01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:13,320 you're. Mad about? 2108 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:19,200 Top 100 picks under this regime One wide receiver, 8 defensive 2109 01:47:19,200 --> 01:47:24,400 lineman. What can you do? 2110 01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:27,080 One more slide, right? We're not playing fantasy. 2111 01:47:27,160 --> 01:47:29,600 Football Shoop. That's what he said, That it's 2112 01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:31,160 not. This is not fantasy football, 2113 01:47:31,160 --> 01:47:32,000 right? We don't want. 2114 01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:35,280 That I I see that you left Kyle Williams off of your sheet, by 2115 01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:37,720 the way, I assume that's because you're, you want to. 2116 01:47:37,720 --> 01:47:39,840 Yeah, I don't know, CDP for this isn't my sheet. 2117 01:47:41,280 --> 01:47:43,240 I was getting criticized. I literally went and checked. 2118 01:47:43,240 --> 01:47:45,440 I was like this Kyle Williams. I don't know. 2119 01:47:45,640 --> 01:47:47,080 Kyle Williams is here. He's in the ranks. 2120 01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:50,440 Not your sheet, all right. Someone else's sheet. 2121 01:47:52,480 --> 01:47:55,480 Yeah, Jack, with these together we appreciate. 2122 01:47:55,480 --> 01:47:58,040 Kyle Williams, we're ahead on. You won't be surprised to learn 2123 01:47:58,040 --> 01:48:00,880 we're ahead on Kyle Williams. That's stunning to me, yeah. 2124 01:48:01,200 --> 01:48:04,960 Tight ends quickly Mason Taylor, I mean tight end premium, is he 2125 01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:08,840 a first round pick? What? 2126 01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:09,960 What? No. 2127 01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:12,960 I've got him pretty, I've got him pretty high. 2128 01:48:13,240 --> 01:48:15,240 Pretty close. How come? 2129 01:48:15,440 --> 01:48:19,400 How come the Ferg dog isn't higher than Mason Taylor and all 2130 01:48:19,400 --> 01:48:22,720 these other guys? Because he might not start. 2131 01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:26,480 He's also like was a good start. Tyler Higbee? 2132 01:48:27,280 --> 01:48:31,200 No, they're starting tight end. No dude, I I wouldn't be 2133 01:48:31,200 --> 01:48:33,760 surprised at all if Higbee just started like the whole year. 2134 01:48:34,240 --> 01:48:35,920 That was their first. Ferguson was their first pick of 2135 01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:38,960 the draft, Athletic on tight end. 2136 01:48:39,440 --> 01:48:44,200 The Rams. The Rams have never, ever not 2137 01:48:44,200 --> 01:48:46,760 just jammed in a second round pick to their starting lineup. 2138 01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:49,040 That's never. Yeah, that's never happened in 2139 01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:51,760 the history of the Rams 22 Atwell, as we know, has been 2140 01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:53,520 their starting. Two Atwell famously started 2141 01:48:53,520 --> 01:48:55,640 right away. Obviously, Cam Akers and Darrell 2142 01:48:55,640 --> 01:48:58,360 Henderson had long careers with the Los. 2143 01:48:58,600 --> 01:49:01,080 Angeles. Calling Rams Corum, you know, 2144 01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:04,560 great pick last year was a huge part of their playoff run for. 2145 01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:07,560 Because it's like a whatever prospect as well, like I he's 2146 01:49:07,560 --> 01:49:10,400 not like some great tight end prospect comes in the whole bets 2147 01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:13,760 draft capital and they have a guy who plays the position. 2148 01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:16,800 I I don't know, I'm kind of I'm kind of unbelievable when I see 2149 01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,600 a mode on Ferguson is starting like a lot this year. 2150 01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:22,880 I think he's maybe he takes over the job at the end of the 2151 01:49:22,880 --> 01:49:26,440 season, but it's basketball. I'm not that interested in like 2152 01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:30,880 an OK tight end prospect. Kind of honestly, OK is nice. 2153 01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:34,400 Maybe starting by the end of the year like it's, I don't know, 2154 01:49:34,920 --> 01:49:38,200 Jacob from dynasty. Sorry for dynasty, Jacob. 2155 01:49:38,200 --> 01:49:40,560 How do you rank the tight ends after Warren then? 2156 01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:42,560 Yeah. So I have Loveland Warren 2157 01:49:42,560 --> 01:49:48,960 obviously, and then I have Fan in 3rd but the market decidedly 2158 01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:50,400 does not. Yeah, the market. 2159 01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:53,320 The market is ready to stuff you in a locker, Jacob. 2160 01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,840 I, I have, I have. Now I'm thinking about thinking, 2161 01:49:55,840 --> 01:49:57,240 well, everybody else doing best Paul ranks. 2162 01:49:57,680 --> 01:49:59,480 I I know where my niche bread is buttered. 2163 01:49:59,480 --> 01:50:03,560 So I now have a sheet with every conceivable format of dynasty 2164 01:50:03,560 --> 01:50:05,080 rankings that you can tab across. 2165 01:50:05,080 --> 01:50:07,800 And that that it also includes my market adjusted rankings, 2166 01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,600 which I will update each day as ADP changes. 2167 01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:16,200 So in those I have Ferguson, this tight end 3, because I, I 2168 01:50:16,200 --> 01:50:18,200 would like to get some shares of Terrence Ferguson. 2169 01:50:18,200 --> 01:50:20,760 And you, you just won't ever get one if you draft Harold Fannon 2170 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:21,880 straight up ahead of him every time. 2171 01:50:23,360 --> 01:50:27,320 But then I have Taylor 5 and I have Arroyo 6. 2172 01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:30,480 Pat will be pleased to know that he's won the war. 2173 01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:34,160 I have Harold Fannon listed as a 3X target exposure player. 2174 01:50:34,160 --> 01:50:37,400 It's my highest target exposure of every single player in my 2175 01:50:37,400 --> 01:50:43,200 ranking set by a lot. Also because like, I think I 2176 01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:46,600 just spent so much time in the Herald fan and echo chamber that 2177 01:50:46,600 --> 01:50:49,800 I thought I'd spend like the two O 4 on this guy but I don't. 2178 01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:50,760 I can. Get like. 2179 01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:53,960 Three O 5 whenever I want and I want. 2180 01:50:54,040 --> 01:50:57,040 So he's just my auto pick in the third round every single draft. 2181 01:50:57,040 --> 01:50:59,200 I I'm gonna draft this shit out of the Herald fan. 2182 01:50:59,360 --> 01:51:02,880 Can he be useful as a rookie? Like, do you think there's 2183 01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:03,640 right? Away. 2184 01:51:03,800 --> 01:51:06,880 I mean, the Deonte thing complicates it a little bit, but 2185 01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:08,920 I assume he's going to get himself put into like a 2186 01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:11,640 institution by August 14th and then we don't have to worry 2187 01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:13,560 about that. Deonte doesn't complicate 2188 01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:14,640 anything. Let's be honest. 2189 01:51:14,640 --> 01:51:18,800 This dude's career is over. What is that complicate? 2190 01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:21,640 Yeah, yeah. I mean. 2191 01:51:22,080 --> 01:51:23,320 Because the I. Asked you A. 2192 01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,240 Prior to the. I have to leave to go do the 2193 01:51:26,240 --> 01:51:28,600 swell cast so you guys can continue arguing. 2194 01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,840 I did just want. To have a hard last call. 2195 01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:37,080 Arande Gadsen. Yeah, my last call, you know. 2196 01:51:37,080 --> 01:51:39,120 We can jump to that. It's a, it's a, it's a good bit. 2197 01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:41,440 I'll take Arande Gadsen, a fifth round rookie tight end. 2198 01:51:41,440 --> 01:51:42,640 Why not? Nice, nice. 2199 01:51:42,880 --> 01:51:45,520 Nice, love it. I I gotta go though later boys. 2200 01:51:45,680 --> 01:51:48,080 See it? Let's jump to last call. 2201 01:51:48,080 --> 01:51:50,080 Davis never thought the show would go this long. 2202 01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:52,360 Apparently, no. Just what are we doing? 2203 01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:54,760 Look at the clock. What's happened to ADP Chase? 2204 01:51:54,760 --> 01:52:00,160 ADP Chasing is back, so map or nomad? 2205 01:52:00,160 --> 01:52:01,800 List of who we've taken yet. Oh, we do. 2206 01:52:01,960 --> 01:52:06,880 We do. Davis is in with Rhonda Gadsden. 2207 01:52:07,880 --> 01:52:10,320 I'm ready unless you guys want to go in front of me. 2208 01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:16,320 I I have mine ready. To rock, I always go for show. 2209 01:52:17,000 --> 01:52:18,000 Do mine. Prashard Smith. 2210 01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:20,680 Prashard Smith, why did I let you go first? 2211 01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,760 God damn, I asked. I'm glad I asked, not just said 2212 01:52:23,760 --> 01:52:25,320 it. Prashard Smith. 2213 01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,280 I can tell you exactly how the Prashard Smith arc is going to 2214 01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:32,880 go. He's going to be drafted at 2215 01:52:32,880 --> 01:52:36,920 around pick 200 for a while. Then we're going to get a bunch 2216 01:52:36,920 --> 01:52:41,520 of a bunch of content from Chiefs rookie camp about how 2217 01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:43,600 great he's doing. It's just going to go up and up 2218 01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:45,680 and up and up. Then eventually his ADP is going 2219 01:52:45,680 --> 01:52:50,320 to peak at like 141 and then on like August 31st, they'll be 2220 01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:53,120 like, we have traded a seventh round pick for Travis Etienne 2221 01:52:53,200 --> 01:52:55,080 and then he'll go back down to 200. 2222 01:52:55,600 --> 01:52:57,760 Cuz that's that's what happens with every Chiefs back. 2223 01:52:57,760 --> 01:53:00,080 They like, they get hyped, they get hyped, they get hyped and 2224 01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:03,080 then they they sign someone else's trash at the last minute. 2225 01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:06,200 But I was still super pumped to take him. 2226 01:53:06,800 --> 01:53:08,320 Now Pat's got it. I got to figure out another 2227 01:53:08,320 --> 01:53:09,440 pick. I got to rethink my whole life. 2228 01:53:10,040 --> 01:53:11,640 All right, I'm going to. I'm going to build out a little 2229 01:53:11,640 --> 01:53:13,600 stack here. I took Troy Franklin. 2230 01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:17,160 I'll take Pat Bryant. That's a good one. 2231 01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:22,880 All right, Round 3. Timber I'm I'm trying to, I'm 2232 01:53:22,880 --> 01:53:26,400 going to commit to the bet. I already took Aaron Rodgers. 2233 01:53:27,000 --> 01:53:29,480 I already took Mari Cooper. I was going to take Rashard 2234 01:53:29,480 --> 01:53:31,800 Smith, but I I've been backed into a corner. 2235 01:53:31,800 --> 01:53:34,760 I have no choice. I'll take Deonte Johnson. 2236 01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:37,280 No, take him. Come on, man. 2237 01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:42,760 Man, Jack Batch was a good pick. That was nice. 2238 01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:46,680 Yeah, I mean, go back and forth, that's the best pick. 2239 01:53:46,680 --> 01:53:48,720 I think we start and taking real picks. 2240 01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:52,680 I hate my team, but just maybe today it was a I. 2241 01:53:52,720 --> 01:53:55,680 Mean, I hate my team too and I but I start I feel better when I 2242 01:53:55,680 --> 01:53:57,560 look at your team and Davis's team, but. 2243 01:53:58,160 --> 01:53:59,840 Yeah, you should. You should I'm. 2244 01:54:00,760 --> 01:54:04,080 Still, I'm eating Aaron Rodgers stock is up after after the 2245 01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:06,280 Steelers drafted no one. That makes me think he's going 2246 01:54:06,280 --> 01:54:09,920 there. Seems legit, could put up some 2247 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:10,920 points. I think you're the. 2248 01:54:10,920 --> 01:54:12,680 Favorite. You know, I got a Martin Cooper 2249 01:54:12,680 --> 01:54:15,600 and Deonte Johnson, so that's probably helping you guys out a 2250 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:17,840 little bit more. Good thing we could slow you 2251 01:54:17,840 --> 01:54:18,400 down today. Yeah. 2252 01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:25,680 All right, Pat, what's the plan for the rest of the week? 2253 01:54:26,040 --> 01:54:26,920 I know. Thursday. 2254 01:54:26,920 --> 01:54:29,560 Ship chasing Thursday. Ship chasing Thursday? 2255 01:54:29,560 --> 01:54:34,840 Yep yeah, and I'm gonna do some streaming in the next few days. 2256 01:54:34,840 --> 01:54:39,800 Jumping on doing some some Basketball Mania drafts and and 2257 01:54:39,800 --> 01:54:42,400 all that. So so look for that. 2258 01:54:43,200 --> 01:54:45,560 You guys were talking about teaming up with Davis for a 2259 01:54:45,560 --> 01:54:47,720 dynasty one. Yeah, that's right. 2260 01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:49,400 We're do we have a time for that? 2261 01:54:49,640 --> 01:54:51,600 We have to figure out we. Don't yet, but we'll we'll 2262 01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:53,040 figure that out. It's gonna happen soon. 2263 01:54:53,720 --> 01:54:56,360 For sure. And then yeah, we've got best 2264 01:54:56,360 --> 01:54:59,080 ball rankings. They're updated daily. 2265 01:54:59,960 --> 01:55:02,240 legendaryupside.com. Still just 10 bucks a month, 2266 01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:05,160 probably going to raise the monthly price at some point this 2267 01:55:05,160 --> 01:55:07,760 offseason, but not yet. So if you want to jump in and, 2268 01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,640 and grab those, you can. We've got DraftKings rankings up 2269 01:55:10,640 --> 01:55:11,880 that we launched yesterday as well. 2270 01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,120 Those will be updated daily as well, uploadable to the site of 2271 01:55:14,120 --> 01:55:16,280 course. And then if you want the dynamic 2272 01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,480 rankings version, we got a tool called the Sidekick over at 2273 01:55:19,480 --> 01:55:22,000 legendaryepisode.com/sidekick. You can check that out as well. 2274 01:55:23,080 --> 01:55:26,040 Jacob. Yeah, thinking about thinking, 2275 01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:27,760 we're still in rookie mode right now. 2276 01:55:28,520 --> 01:55:33,320 So like I said, we have now now updated, we've got overall 2277 01:55:33,360 --> 01:55:35,120 honesty rankings update with all the rookies included. 2278 01:55:35,120 --> 01:55:38,400 We got super flex, tight end, premium, super flex, non tight 2279 01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:41,360 end, premium, one quarterback. We have two tight end rankings. 2280 01:55:41,360 --> 01:55:44,280 All of the sicko thinking about things, subscribers have been 2281 01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,240 nagging me in the comments. When are you going to have two 2282 01:55:46,240 --> 01:55:48,600 tight end rankings? We have two tight end rookie 2283 01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:50,520 rankings for you absolute sick people. 2284 01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:53,920 And then market adjusted ranks, target exposures. 2285 01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:56,040 I'm going to have my rookie draft walkthrough posted in a 2286 01:55:56,040 --> 01:56:01,040 day or two, which is basically I go through rookie drafts and 2287 01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:05,440 target basically pick by pick with ADP where I want to trade 2288 01:56:05,440 --> 01:56:10,280 up to down from out of etcetera to sort of build out my target 2289 01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:11,760 exposure to the class as a whole. 2290 01:56:12,080 --> 01:56:15,440 And then that will kind of conclude the rookie draft season 2291 01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:17,920 portion of of dynasty coverage. Then we'll get best ball 2292 01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:19,800 rankings up probably this weekend. 2293 01:56:20,720 --> 01:56:25,560 OK, you can find me on the Odyssey app hosting at WGR 2294 01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:29,240 Sports Radio 550 in Buffalo weekdays from three to seven, as 2295 01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:32,320 I've been doing for 22 years at this point. 2296 01:56:32,320 --> 01:56:37,920 It's been an eventful week. It was said in the Discord that 2297 01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:41,640 our show, or at least our station is the ship chasing of 2298 01:56:41,640 --> 01:56:43,680 sports radio. And I took I took that as a 2299 01:56:43,680 --> 01:56:47,360 tremendous compliment The I force I force a lot of fantasy 2300 01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:47,800 in there. I. 2301 01:56:48,040 --> 01:56:50,120 You did have AGM. It's like recent fantasy 2302 01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:51,840 football on on. Yeah, yeah. 2303 01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:55,520 And when I when I rose up against that, it was like, of 2304 01:56:55,520 --> 01:56:59,160 course, show you would. But yeah, I mean, we we do as 2305 01:56:59,160 --> 01:57:01,880 much fantasy content as we can. Chris Trapasso will be on with 2306 01:57:01,880 --> 01:57:05,840 us tomorrow to recap the draft. So please find me there and I 2307 01:57:05,840 --> 01:57:10,560 withdraw my offer to jump in on your Dynasty stream because then 2308 01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:16,720 it would be this show. So many shows are often kind of 2309 01:57:16,720 --> 01:57:17,840 just other shows. So that's. 2310 01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:18,800 You gotta just. You can't. 2311 01:57:18,880 --> 01:57:21,840 Have the exact when you when you suggested it, I I originally 2312 01:57:21,840 --> 01:57:23,880 forgot that I do have to eventually go to work today and 2313 01:57:23,880 --> 01:57:26,680 I was like, well, should we just record till like for four hours? 2314 01:57:26,680 --> 01:57:29,320 Just cut it in half and then do the dynasty version? 2315 01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:32,120 Let's just crash the swoll cast and we'll do it there. 2316 01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:35,360 I know I can't wait to watch it. I know I can't wait to watch it. 2317 01:57:36,000 --> 01:57:38,560 All right, thank you, Pat Jacob Davis, thanks everybody for 2318 01:57:38,560 --> 01:57:40,960 watching and listening. We will see you next week here 2319 01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:42,240 on ADP Chasing.