1 00:00:12,900 --> 00:00:16,900 All right, it's Monday, ATP. Chasing, same Sherman's, not 2 00:00:16,900 --> 00:00:18,200 here. I did not think I was gonna be 3 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:19,600 here, but I am here. We got Ben Gretch. 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:21,000 Joining the show. Let's go. 5 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:31,500 It's a teepee Jason. Pat Friar Holm Oak hand job. 6 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:50,900 Victor sighs Jamar Chase. All right, so, what's up? 7 00:00:50,900 --> 00:00:54,700 Ben ATP, chasing debut. Yeah, what's up? 8 00:00:55,300 --> 00:00:56,700 All right. I mean it was going to be just 9 00:00:56,700 --> 00:01:00,100 me a Davis until a few minutes ago your on jury duty, right? 10 00:01:00,100 --> 00:01:01,900 And then got this myth, I was on jury duty. 11 00:01:02,900 --> 00:01:07,200 Fortunately, I was on jury duty. Friday did not get called for 12 00:01:07,208 --> 00:01:11,100 the grand jury, which would have been potentially a disaster. 13 00:01:12,900 --> 00:01:15,100 Got sent over to the Civil civil jury. 14 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:18,300 Overflow was not selected. So, here I am. 15 00:01:19,300 --> 00:01:21,000 Back up. I'm a civilian once again. 16 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:25,600 Fantastic, more time. More time to bang out, drafts 17 00:01:25,600 --> 00:01:26,300 at. Are you what? 18 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:28,000 I think would be. I think it'd be frowned upon to 19 00:01:28,008 --> 00:01:29,800 be like hearing a case. Getting deliberate. 20 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:32,300 And being like, dude, round 17, Brock / D. 21 00:01:32,300 --> 00:01:35,200 It's just like free money, bro. Like you got the button? 22 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,800 Yeah, they they were not a, they were like, sir, please stop 23 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,700 talking about Brock Purdy and answer these questions about 24 00:01:44,700 --> 00:01:46,700 whether or not you're eligible for jury service. 25 00:01:48,100 --> 00:01:51,000 All right, let's get so Sam's. Not here. 26 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,200 So the charts. Are going to be we're going to 27 00:01:53,208 --> 00:01:55,600 splitting up the hosting duties. So Ben you're enjoying your 28 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:56,400 start. Firing them up. 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,400 I don't ya just starting our nope I guess we'll pick. 30 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:02,500 Yeah I might as well say I hate all these. 31 00:02:02,500 --> 00:02:03,900 I'm not taking any credit for it. 32 00:02:03,900 --> 00:02:05,400 Thank you Sam. And he sent over some great 33 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:07,900 notes and some thoughts on what we're seeing. 34 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:12,000 But yeah I mean the first name that name the jumped out to me 35 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,500 is Madison. I mean there's been a lot of 36 00:02:13,500 --> 00:02:16,600 people shout out Pat Foreman who I don't think it's enough credit 37 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,400 these days but when he says something definitively you 38 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:21,100 should definitely listen. He's one of the oh jeez in the 39 00:02:21,100 --> 00:02:23,700 fancy community. Doesn't mince words. 40 00:02:23,700 --> 00:02:26,300 Sometimes he's been saying all offseason, Alexander Madison is 41 00:02:26,300 --> 00:02:28,000 going to rise in value and it's happening now. 42 00:02:29,700 --> 00:02:30,800 Yeah. Yeah. 43 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:35,100 Sorry who are you saying was saying that hacen? 44 00:02:35,100 --> 00:02:37,600 I mean, basically it's dormant literally tormented sent a 45 00:02:37,608 --> 00:02:40,100 couple tweets. Very different like specific 46 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:41,300 been all over it. Yeah. 47 00:02:41,300 --> 00:02:43,200 I wasn't going to be multiple rounds, more expensive. 48 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,000 You're going to get, clv take him now. 49 00:02:45,300 --> 00:02:48,200 Anyone who was paying attention as he's rising up considerably. 50 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,500 I saw him go in the sixth round of a draft that I was in 51 00:02:50,500 --> 00:02:52,100 recently. And that, that point of like, 52 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:55,100 well, cook better be gone because I don't think, I don't 53 00:02:55,100 --> 00:02:59,000 think I would take six. That's the big question, that's 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:00,100 why. That was the first thing that 55 00:03:00,100 --> 00:03:02,500 jumped out to me, is okay. Like, yeah, you got clv and I 56 00:03:02,508 --> 00:03:05,300 think that's obviously strong, but is it efficient once? 57 00:03:05,300 --> 00:03:08,100 He starts getting really expensive with to, I think 58 00:03:08,100 --> 00:03:09,900 really interesting running backs behind him. 59 00:03:09,900 --> 00:03:13,100 They drafted the way McBride, who we talked about a lot, Pat 60 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,300 had like five Career College, receptions doesn't have much for 61 00:03:15,300 --> 00:03:17,600 passing will, but a really efficient runner in college, 62 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,300 right? And then also type Channel, I 63 00:03:19,308 --> 00:03:22,200 want to show and say, seagulls favorites from last season is 64 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:24,500 still kicking around a thousand. Guys, is Mike. 65 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:27,000 I'm not these guys are immaterial. 66 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,300 They're, they're not all them and all that material. 67 00:03:29,500 --> 00:03:32,400 Call them, Matt breed and Gary Brightwell to me, I come on. 68 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:35,800 Wait, we disagree with that. I completely disagree to my, my 69 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:38,800 thing is they've got like the biggest running back contract, 70 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:43,400 this offseason, right? I mean, he got I got good good 71 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,700 money for sure. You got surprisingly good money 72 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:50,700 but I think that tells you that Cook an addition to them, taking 73 00:03:50,700 --> 00:03:52,700 cook off their banner and replacing them with Madison. 74 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,400 Cook is not going to be there, right? 75 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,600 Like the tea leaves for the contract, I mean, the contract 76 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,200 is important but I don't think it means. 77 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:02,200 You can't pay somebody to be good. 78 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:05,800 You know, you can only pay somebody to do the job and I 79 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:08,800 think they've signaled, pretty strongly that Madison is going 80 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:12,000 to have a big role and they cook is probably going to be 81 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,200 elsewhere. But I don't think Madison's that 82 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:16,500 good. I mean, I think he's kind of 83 00:04:16,500 --> 00:04:18,500 like a like a poor man's Josh Jacobs. 84 00:04:18,500 --> 00:04:21,600 Type think he can handle everything, you know, where he's 85 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:23,700 like. Kind of a David Montgomery type 86 00:04:23,700 --> 00:04:26,000 dude. Yeah, but David Montgomery has 87 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,500 seen, has had like, multiple seasons of, like, disgusting 88 00:04:29,500 --> 00:04:31,100 volume. Yeah. 89 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,000 Yeah, that's okay. But one interesting thing on 90 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,900 Madison is you go back, a couple years. 91 00:04:35,900 --> 00:04:38,700 He's never really done it over multiple games. 92 00:04:38,700 --> 00:04:41,400 He's had the good spot starts with Dolphin cookout. 93 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:42,700 At times you go back a couple of years. 94 00:04:42,700 --> 00:04:46,200 He was big in One last year with the new coaching staff, didn't 95 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:49,300 have double-digit carries in a game until week 18 or whatever. 96 00:04:49,300 --> 00:04:52,600 The very final game had 10 carries and two touchdowns but 97 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,100 otherwise like was actually a lot lower in volume the year, 98 00:04:56,100 --> 00:04:59,000 prior some of it was cooked missing games but he had I think 99 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,500 it was five games of double-digit carries three with 100 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:05,700 over 20 when he got the start was like the full time back but 101 00:05:05,700 --> 00:05:08,700 like didn't really carry the load much last year at all as 102 00:05:08,900 --> 00:05:11,000 under the new staff. I do realize yeah they paid good 103 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:13,400 money, this offseason so that's not like something I'm reading. 104 00:05:13,500 --> 00:05:16,500 Too much into, but to pass point, I mean three point seven. 105 00:05:16,500 --> 00:05:18,800 Three point eight yards per carry is the last two years, 106 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,000 yours for Target under you know, running back average inefficient 107 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,800 running. And receiving can do everything 108 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:28,500 but right. I mean he's a great backup 109 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:30,700 running back because you don't have to take them off the field. 110 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:32,900 He can do, he can handle everything. 111 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:37,100 But I mean, is he better than semaj perine? 112 00:05:38,300 --> 00:05:41,400 And I felt so right, but he doesn't, he doesn't have to 113 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:44,500 contend with Javonte Williams coming back in week. 7, you 114 00:05:44,500 --> 00:05:45,600 know. Sure, sure. 115 00:05:45,700 --> 00:05:47,200 So, yeah. I mean, I think Madison could 116 00:05:48,100 --> 00:05:49,700 good. What is fair bit? 117 00:05:49,700 --> 00:05:52,700 Cook. It cook is not there and I don't 118 00:05:52,700 --> 00:05:55,700 think Coco will be there. It's early be drafting Madison 119 00:05:55,700 --> 00:05:57,700 like he's not but what is fair value? 120 00:05:57,700 --> 00:06:00,900 If Cook is for sure gone. Like let's say, you know, he 121 00:06:00,900 --> 00:06:03,400 gets traded to team X Y or Z, it doesn't matter. 122 00:06:03,500 --> 00:06:07,000 He settles into the range of Damien Pearcy. 123 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:09,800 Andre swept Isaiah. Echo, cam Akers, Rashad white 124 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,200 like pretty good. I think that's the correct spot 125 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:13,300 for me. Yeah. 126 00:06:13,700 --> 00:06:17,300 But like, I'd rather have Damien Pierce. 127 00:06:18,100 --> 00:06:20,900 Pierce is my brother have shot? Y-yeah Pierce. 128 00:06:20,900 --> 00:06:22,800 Is my most rapid running back this far? 129 00:06:22,900 --> 00:06:25,900 Yeah, I think that's actually a strong taking the, I didn't do 130 00:06:25,900 --> 00:06:27,900 read signals those. I wasn't really in on Pierce 131 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:31,100 last season, but out what out what I would say about Madison 132 00:06:31,100 --> 00:06:35,900 and the backups, I think Madison can be a reasonable pick a good, 133 00:06:35,900 --> 00:06:39,000 you know, cost-benefit pick at his Because there is the 134 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,500 potential for him to be the starter all season and be a 135 00:06:41,500 --> 00:06:46,600 pretty big win at that cost and it can still be the case that 136 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,700 both Chandler McBride are really nice. 137 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,500 Last round like really late flyer. 138 00:06:51,500 --> 00:06:55,100 I've been thinking Madison could potentially not Madison 139 00:06:55,100 --> 00:06:57,500 potentially not be able to carry the load over multiple games. 140 00:06:57,500 --> 00:06:58,400 It's not something we've really seen him. 141 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,800 Do we've seen him do the spot starts. 142 00:07:00,300 --> 00:07:01,400 Madison could potentially get hurt. 143 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:04,100 Obviously, you're still getting like, potentially talented 144 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,100 backups like handcuffs and an offense. 145 00:07:07,100 --> 00:07:09,700 That's going to be You know, good they have good receivers 146 00:07:09,700 --> 00:07:13,000 are going to have running lanes open an elite receiver at least 147 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:16,700 one I mean I would want the handcuffing that offense anyway 148 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:19,100 it's a little ambiguous which of those two it might be between 149 00:07:19,100 --> 00:07:21,100 McBride and Chandler. I think they're worthy Flyers to 150 00:07:21,100 --> 00:07:25,100 take those guys could be massive hits if like so if Cook's gone 151 00:07:25,100 --> 00:07:27,300 and Madison tears, his ACL like that's the traditional 152 00:07:27,300 --> 00:07:29,000 handcuffed thing. Those guys could be massive hits 153 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,600 to Brandon pointing out that even so much as touch Handler at 154 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:35,700 1:17 overall and running back 44. 155 00:07:37,100 --> 00:07:40,100 I don't know, I was never that into tide Chandler, I know Sean 156 00:07:40,100 --> 00:07:44,400 Siegel loves him, I'm kind of more into McBride who I feel 157 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:47,900 like I know he does one thing really well is the new shiny toy 158 00:07:47,900 --> 00:07:51,900 but maybe Chandler's. This the sharp player Chandler? 159 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:55,000 Chandler is like more. My Vibe is just like a crazy 160 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:59,900 athlete to me. It seems like it's just going to 161 00:07:59,907 --> 00:08:01,900 be they're going to play Madison. 162 00:08:01,900 --> 00:08:06,000 The way they like Madison is going to be David Montgomery. 163 00:08:06,100 --> 00:08:07,400 Here. And then if he gets hurt, 164 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:12,600 whatever II would, I would be surprised if one of Chandler or 165 00:08:12,900 --> 00:08:15,900 McBride plays so, well that it hurt here and is in, is some 166 00:08:15,900 --> 00:08:18,400 sort of timeshare. Obviously, it could happen. 167 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,700 I would never say it's like 100% one way or the other, but it 168 00:08:21,700 --> 00:08:23,700 doesn't seem like the most likely thing. 169 00:08:23,700 --> 00:08:25,300 How much better of an athlete is Chandler. 170 00:08:25,300 --> 00:08:29,000 The Madison a lot better A lot but that and he's got a 171 00:08:29,008 --> 00:08:31,300 proceeding profile to write like yeah. 172 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:33,400 Jailer was a good pass catcher in college. 173 00:08:33,500 --> 00:08:35,400 I think he would be my preference to because you can do 174 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,200 all three. Ultrasounds. 175 00:08:37,200 --> 00:08:40,200 You can just kind of like, we're kind of doing like the film, bro 176 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,799 thing though of being like, you know, I think this guy is better 177 00:08:43,799 --> 00:08:47,500 than this guy, but it doesn't really matter because I think I 178 00:08:47,508 --> 00:08:49,600 think challenge the final two years of the running back 179 00:08:49,600 --> 00:08:51,500 position. I actually think Talent is 180 00:08:51,500 --> 00:08:54,500 starting to become an underrated component of of fantasy. 181 00:08:54,500 --> 00:08:57,900 Football practice has just learned a lot of touches. 182 00:08:57,900 --> 00:09:00,900 In the NFL, I wrote, at least last year in the the subset. 183 00:09:00,900 --> 00:09:02,800 That was like running back talent doesn't matter. 184 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,200 But it's like the only thing that matters or whatever. 185 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,900 I said because like the it's not valued in the Market enough Pat. 186 00:09:06,900 --> 00:09:08,500 I'm right, right? Yeah, that was my forget. 187 00:09:08,500 --> 00:09:11,400 My I can, I click opportunities, massive, but then people like, 188 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:15,300 who cares? Like, like if Montgomery, if if 189 00:09:15,300 --> 00:09:19,300 Madison is Montgomery then I think McBride or Chandler could 190 00:09:19,300 --> 00:09:21,100 kind of be the Khalil Herbert clearly. 191 00:09:21,100 --> 00:09:24,000 They're like, there's just so much more efficient and it's 192 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,100 like play him play him. If the down and took situation 193 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,400 is this much of a positive on Alexander Madison? 194 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,500 Then it should be this much of a positive correspondingly on the 195 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:36,800 cheek backups that are good. Bats, like Dynasty bats right 196 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:39,100 there. Good, Flyers to have if this 197 00:09:39,100 --> 00:09:42,700 backfield is ambiguous and like, you know, very available, and 198 00:09:42,700 --> 00:09:44,800 we're saying Madison should be rising all the way up and people 199 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:46,100 are taking him in the fifth sixth round. 200 00:09:46,100 --> 00:09:48,700 Like you said, then the backup should be rising. 201 00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:50,400 I think corresponding, I think what? 202 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,300 So by having his preference at our be 44, I think that makes 203 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:54,500 sense. I think in August there's going 204 00:09:54,500 --> 00:09:58,400 to be about I thinking at our be 44 I think that's this is what 205 00:09:58,400 --> 00:10:01,200 I'm getting. Semaj perine treyvion Williams 206 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,300 vibes from laughter Chris Evans by before. 207 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:06,800 It's like yeah mix it up. It's like it's like if you just 208 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,600 took Chris Evans your fucking you were bad, right? 209 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:13,200 But if you just took a bunch of perine or just if you mix them 210 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:15,700 up. Yeah, I think I think it's when 211 00:10:15,700 --> 00:10:20,500 when the I've noticed this quite often in best ball specifically 212 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,300 which is that when the backup when the running back to is not 213 00:10:24,300 --> 00:10:27,600 hyper clear, the market totally throws their hands up and 214 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:29,500 refuses to take a stand. Right. 215 00:10:29,500 --> 00:10:33,500 The Cowboys right now Row, Joe Willie Davis do svan all in the 216 00:10:33,500 --> 00:10:36,400 eighteenth round but I think We all could universally look at 217 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:39,400 the de gallo Dallas backfield and be like, it's gonna be fun. 218 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:41,600 Yeah. We we want to have, we want to 219 00:10:41,608 --> 00:10:43,600 have. We want to have the running back 220 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:45,700 to their, if you want to have some exposure to the running 221 00:10:45,700 --> 00:10:48,100 back to their. And if it's Zeke, I guess that 222 00:10:48,100 --> 00:10:50,700 is a couple factors that it could be Zeke. 223 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:55,300 This could be, I mean, if they cut down even cook, like 224 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:59,500 couldn't this be a Leonard fournette, Korean hunt, Ezekiel 225 00:10:59,500 --> 00:11:03,500 Elliott landing spot, not a concern, I believe the Vikings, 226 00:11:03,900 --> 00:11:06,600 I guess it would depend How much money those guys wanted? 227 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,700 Because I believe they have a horrible cap sheet. 228 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,200 I believe, it's like nice, the Madison contract that much 229 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,200 harder to understand. Yeah, I know. 230 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,900 But I believe, I obviously don't quote me 100% on this because I 231 00:11:15,908 --> 00:11:17,900 can't with cap stuff. It's all, that's why I 232 00:11:17,900 --> 00:11:18,800 understand. Thank you. 233 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:20,200 Yeah. But they can't divide. 234 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:25,300 So, if if for net or Zeke or these guys are taking the vet 235 00:11:25,300 --> 00:11:30,100 men, Then sure, but but it also, it doesn't it feel like the 236 00:11:30,100 --> 00:11:32,900 reason why for net, our hunt or Zeke or whatever is not signed 237 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:35,200 yet is because they think if they hold out long enough they 238 00:11:35,200 --> 00:11:37,000 can do better than the Bettman, right? 239 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,900 And I don't think there's any way you can sign the Madison 240 00:11:39,900 --> 00:11:41,800 deal even if you're not in a cap. 241 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,700 I mean they're not like an extreme cat fine. 242 00:11:43,700 --> 00:11:45,800 But then I know they're definitely not in a good cap on 243 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,700 the human of the offseason. People talking about how they're 244 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:49,100 gonna have to check contracts. I had to cut out. 245 00:11:49,100 --> 00:11:53,100 I'm feeling all this stuff. If I don't think you can sign 246 00:11:53,100 --> 00:11:55,100 the Madison. Okay, what's that? 247 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,300 I hadn't feelings. And I don't know. 248 00:11:57,300 --> 00:12:00,100 Yeah, I'm gonna, you could have, they had to shit scratching 249 00:12:00,100 --> 00:12:01,200 today. I don't think they've shut. 250 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,500 They've cut some Defenders to they and they traded za'darius 251 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:05,100 Smith for peanuts. Like they had to shut some 252 00:12:05,100 --> 00:12:07,100 contracts. This offseason you don't you 253 00:12:07,108 --> 00:12:10,200 don't have that kind of cap situation and signed Madison. 254 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:13,300 And another vet, that's like a 4 million guaranteed. 255 00:12:13,300 --> 00:12:15,800 You can't do that. I just the Madison deal 256 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,800 precludes that from happening, it's got to be the vent. 257 00:12:18,900 --> 00:12:23,000 Alright, so that was 15 minutes on Alexander Madison Gibson, 258 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,100 what's that? The Riser here that I like the 259 00:12:25,100 --> 00:12:28,200 most is Gibson because just looking at the context of 260 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:32,800 running back, I mean if falls off so quickly we have like we 261 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:37,400 have evidence of Gibson being better than this, right? 262 00:12:37,500 --> 00:12:39,900 And if we're talking about Talent mattering, I mean is 263 00:12:39,900 --> 00:12:43,000 there truly any person who would argue that Brian Robinson is 264 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:46,500 more talented than Gibson and we don't even have the complicating 265 00:12:46,500 --> 00:12:48,500 Factor when we were doing this last stop. 266 00:12:48,700 --> 00:12:51,800 Season and Gibson's ATP fell, so much, JD mckissack was still on 267 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,900 the roster. Now, he didn't end up playing 268 00:12:53,900 --> 00:12:56,500 because he got injured really early on in the season but we 269 00:12:56,500 --> 00:12:59,500 don't even have a guy we think would steal these theoretical 270 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:04,000 receiving snaps from him anymore like I like Gibson more than 271 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,700 Herbert Harris. Penny a chain Robinson and Dylan 272 00:13:08,700 --> 00:13:11,400 so that's like that's like a 20 spot spread of ATP. 273 00:13:11,700 --> 00:13:13,800 I like Gibson to. I think it's interesting. 274 00:13:14,900 --> 00:13:17,700 I haven't been, I like him some. I've taken a lot of Gibson but I 275 00:13:17,700 --> 00:13:20,200 if he got up in that. And I don't think I'd be buying 276 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:23,500 as much mean, like, with Harris and Penny, obviously, with 277 00:13:23,500 --> 00:13:25,100 Penny. There's some real, you've got 278 00:13:25,100 --> 00:13:27,900 the I mean, I don't necessarily learn start calling guys 279 00:13:27,900 --> 00:13:30,700 injury-prone, but if we're going to put it to anybody, well, and 280 00:13:30,700 --> 00:13:33,000 his contract is pennies. Like, he could be the guy. 281 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,300 He could be the guy who ends up not on the roster. 282 00:13:35,300 --> 00:13:37,500 He could be Roadshow from last year in the same range where 283 00:13:37,500 --> 00:13:39,200 you're like, oh God. That's a burn pick. 284 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:42,200 But he is so talented and strength. 285 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:46,600 Such a good situation. If he is getting work that I 286 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:49,000 don't know. He's like and it's like He's one 287 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,700 of those things were, if penny has a role, he's going to like, 288 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:57,800 be a pretty reliable, best ball, pick over the court, may not be 289 00:13:57,800 --> 00:14:00,800 a bit boom-bust. He's a to down explosion play 290 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,100 guy, but I think you'd be pretty happy about him early in the 291 00:14:04,108 --> 00:14:06,400 season and Harris is similar where I'm like, man. 292 00:14:06,400 --> 00:14:11,500 I really need a rb2 or in rb3. I like I like Harris better for 293 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:17,100 week 15. 16 17. Nothing to me says week 15, 16 294 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:19,600 17 under Ugh. Best while Mania, playoffs. 295 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:23,000 Then Damien Harris in the fucking cold running for three 296 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,000 CDs. No, 22 carries 67 yards. 297 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:30,000 Three touchdowns it's just thinking bills, tax left and 298 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:32,000 right. That's, I mean, I like that 299 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,900 place the Patriots, he plays the Patriots and he's 17, like, come 300 00:14:35,900 --> 00:14:37,700 on, dude. That's why they brought him in 301 00:14:37,700 --> 00:14:39,900 for that game. Literally, for that game 302 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:43,100 dead-ass II believe, because I think the Damien Harris, the 303 00:14:43,108 --> 00:14:44,800 paint, just the patches beat him. 304 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,600 What last year by throwing three passes. 305 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,600 The fewest in like the modern era and By running it down their 306 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,600 throats in the bills and have an answer in that cold weather 307 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,800 game. Couple of it wasn't last season 308 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:57,200 was a year before, right? But they, the bills, they want 309 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:58,900 to be able to have a power running game when they and we 310 00:14:58,900 --> 00:15:02,100 and they keep doing, they keep doing every coach on this and 311 00:15:02,100 --> 00:15:03,800 the GM. Keep saying, we want Josh 312 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,300 allender unless we don't want him getting rocked up in the 313 00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:12,700 regular security. You got me. 314 00:15:12,700 --> 00:15:17,700 So yeah, so, like that stuff for me and a half. 315 00:15:17,700 --> 00:15:20,600 PPR Formats. Like, I mean, Damien Harris 316 00:15:20,600 --> 00:15:23,800 isn't amazing or anything but I think he is pretty good at what? 317 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:25,900 He's good at perfectly Crime. Alert running back. 318 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:30,100 Yeah, I mean, he's he's got some, he wasn't that explosive 319 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:31,700 last year but he has a couple years ago. 320 00:15:31,700 --> 00:15:33,900 He was he was breaking off long, runs pretty well. 321 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,700 I think we'll be better around. The goal line than Singletary, 322 00:15:36,700 --> 00:15:41,100 certainly than James Cook and so is probably an upgrade for them 323 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:44,300 in terms of like goal-line rushing and like early down 324 00:15:44,300 --> 00:15:49,000 explosiveness, So yeah, I think he probably like, won't ever 325 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,600 have the Devin Singletary role or he just like gets everything 326 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:54,500 because Cooks, pretty decent, but I think he could do more 327 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:57,600 with it like a committee role then then Singletary was doing. 328 00:15:57,800 --> 00:16:02,100 So, like, when my thing with Gibson is the coaching staff, 329 00:16:02,100 --> 00:16:03,900 clearly doesn't like my know. It's a new offensive 330 00:16:03,900 --> 00:16:05,900 coordinator. Maybe enemy will like more, but 331 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:11,000 it's still Rivera. That's just like if he's I kind 332 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,800 of like him where he's been going, because it's like, man, 333 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,500 this is a pretty sweet handcuff pick. 334 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:18,200 He can catch passes. He's pretty talented but I like 335 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:19,700 it as a bet against Brian Robinson. 336 00:16:19,700 --> 00:16:21,700 Someone said, both of them are smashes. 337 00:16:21,900 --> 00:16:23,400 Sam said about, look at that Sam. 338 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:25,600 Our buddy is was watching on the airport. 339 00:16:25,700 --> 00:16:28,300 No, you're on an airplane off three point eight point, six 340 00:16:28,300 --> 00:16:30,000 yards per carry Brian Robinson, right? 341 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,100 Me Robinson as a profile didn't look like you'd be a very 342 00:16:33,100 --> 00:16:34,800 efficient player. This is one of those player 343 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,800 Talent takes certainly, but he didn't look like, you'd be a 344 00:16:36,800 --> 00:16:38,300 very efficient running back. He was probably over. 345 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,700 Overdrafted. And then he got a lot of work 346 00:16:39,700 --> 00:16:41,200 last year, but wasn't very efficient. 347 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,400 And to me, I mean, maybe it's confirmation bias, but I feel 348 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,200 like we're headed that direction, and if that's true 349 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:48,500 again, in your to then Gibson, it increases Gibson ceiling. 350 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,400 Let me let me make the case for Robertson who I don't really 351 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:55,200 like, I've been, but I've been sort of forcing myself to mix 352 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,900 him in because you do have him priced in a Range work. 353 00:16:59,100 --> 00:17:03,200 He's like, yeah. I mean it's got a, he was shot 354 00:17:03,900 --> 00:17:05,800 in the leg. What is what if he is? 355 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,800 He is he miraculously, guys? Yeah, I guess you got shot. 356 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,599 I don't think, I don't think that's gonna like me. 357 00:17:11,599 --> 00:17:13,700 I don't think he's gonna be Joe. I mean, here he will. 358 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:15,200 He was shot in the leg last summer. 359 00:17:15,300 --> 00:17:18,300 So he's now a year removed from being shot in his leg. 360 00:17:18,500 --> 00:17:20,800 That seems like. That's why he was inefficient 361 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,200 last year because he wasn't training. 362 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,700 He wasn't, you know, fully Peach possible. 363 00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:27,099 It's fair. I think he's likely bad. 364 00:17:27,099 --> 00:17:29,200 Like I didn't like him as a prospect of thought he was, it 365 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:31,200 was like bizarre tonight. He was drafted with David 366 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:33,900 Shearer over this. They were like, I took a running 367 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:35,200 back. Well, yeah, I took him in all 368 00:17:35,208 --> 00:17:38,400 these rookie drafts for like the various like, yeah, he's now Oh, 369 00:17:38,408 --> 00:17:40,000 Bama running back. So he was always going to get 370 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,000 opportunity. But if we're if we're if our if 371 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,400 our line on ATP chasing here is that running back Talent is 372 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:47,900 actually a little bit undervalued by the market. 373 00:17:47,900 --> 00:17:50,900 I think this is a literal perfect illustration. 374 00:17:50,900 --> 00:17:53,200 I think everyone who watches football would be like, yeah, 375 00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,600 Gibson just looks better, he looks more Dynamic. 376 00:17:55,700 --> 00:17:59,300 You can, you can do more with him, he is better in the passing 377 00:17:59,300 --> 00:18:03,600 game now obviously he fumbles. So that is a probably, he's 378 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,500 really bad at that like almost like historically bad at 379 00:18:06,500 --> 00:18:08,300 fumbling, the ball and coaches hate. 380 00:18:08,500 --> 00:18:10,600 That but and they already hate him. 381 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:14,400 I think with Robinson like I wouldn't go I just doesn't feel 382 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,600 like a great guy to go like heavy fade when he's being 383 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,600 priced like he definitely sucks because it's like the first guy 384 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:24,300 who's going to get the first crack at this job in training 385 00:18:24,300 --> 00:18:27,900 camp, Brian Robinson, right? Like I would anyone argue 386 00:18:27,900 --> 00:18:29,900 against that. So it's like, all right, we're 387 00:18:29,900 --> 00:18:32,300 getting a guy who's like, in like the tenth round. 388 00:18:32,300 --> 00:18:37,300 Who's getting a first crack at a starting job and he's young and 389 00:18:37,300 --> 00:18:39,800 might be more. Talented than we saw last year 390 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:42,600 because he's a year. This is this is this is the 391 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,300 player talent that. Yeah, he might be more talented 392 00:18:44,300 --> 00:18:46,700 but the player Town, think, when we think about, the fact that 393 00:18:46,700 --> 00:18:50,200 there's definitely like a known known as there, will be 394 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,600 Evolution from who's starting in week, 12, starting in week 17, 395 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,900 in running, back in back fields across the league. 396 00:18:55,900 --> 00:18:58,400 Like that's how the NFL works. We know that all across the 397 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,400 league every year. Some of it will be injury based 398 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,800 and will be Talent based. That's a known. 399 00:19:03,100 --> 00:19:07,000 The question of even if Robinson is the guy going into the year, 400 00:19:07,900 --> 00:19:10,800 What is the percentage that he holds that all year? 401 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:13,100 As I think the big question because I think a lot of people 402 00:19:13,100 --> 00:19:15,900 think that's more likely than it actually is, if you look at 403 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:18,300 historical stuff and you think the running back? 404 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,100 It's like a 20% proposition that he holds it. 405 00:19:22,100 --> 00:19:23,800 The whole year at his skill level probably. 406 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:27,000 Well if it is yellow glow. What is a 1 in 5 or that 407 00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,800 actually works out? What if he's better than you 408 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:31,000 think? I mean I agree with you. 409 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,000 It's recognized Brian Robinson from last year. 410 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:35,800 He's not holding the job and he's basically you're basically 411 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:38,300 drafting like some early season production to help get you 412 00:19:38,300 --> 00:19:40,700 through even that though could be valuable invest ball. 413 00:19:40,700 --> 00:19:42,700 Like it is, it is valuable. Yeah. 414 00:19:43,300 --> 00:19:46,700 And then it's like, okay, what if he just doesn't suck, which 415 00:19:46,700 --> 00:19:49,000 there is some chance that he doesn't suck because I think 416 00:19:49,100 --> 00:19:50,500 Think that him being shot in the leg. 417 00:19:50,500 --> 00:19:52,000 I agree with that. All being valuable. 418 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:54,800 I'm just saying like I think I do think people when they make 419 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,000 that pic think there's like a 50% chance or more that he holds 420 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,200 a job all year and I the 20% of throwing out but I do think it's 421 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,500 marginally. Or not marginal. 422 00:20:05,500 --> 00:20:08,000 It's significantly lower than people think in their minds when 423 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,100 they're thinking I'm getting the week one starter as a point. 424 00:20:11,100 --> 00:20:12,500 I'm trying to make. I agree with your point on how 425 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:15,400 we can hit though. Sorry no I completely agree with 426 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,900 you that it's like he's maybe even twenty percent high if he 427 00:20:19,900 --> 00:20:21,700 is the guy we saw last year because they drafted Chris 428 00:20:21,700 --> 00:20:24,900 Rodriguez like Gibson's definitely more talented than 429 00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:27,100 the guy that we saw last year from Robinson. 430 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,800 So I mean I was just a great point from Jay Megan. 431 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:32,400 This is I was intentionally avoiding this. 432 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,100 But how can you have any confidence that gives The one 433 00:20:34,100 --> 00:20:36,400 who ever takes be robbed when this very coaching staff? 434 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,100 Well, well, I think I think this is a little bit of revisionist 435 00:20:40,100 --> 00:20:43,600 History, because if you go back and look, they did go very heavy 436 00:20:44,100 --> 00:20:47,800 on Brian Robinson for a period and then they pulled back on 437 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:49,600 that. Basically realizing it was a 438 00:20:49,608 --> 00:20:52,500 mistake, like there was a. So there's a stretch here, Brian 439 00:20:52,500 --> 00:20:56,500 Robinson, comes back and Gibson goes down to like 32 percent 25 440 00:20:56,500 --> 00:21:00,500 percent snaps per game. I want to say it was this there 441 00:21:00,500 --> 00:21:03,700 was like a Thursday night game where Brian Robinson had like 20 442 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:07,200 Date touches or something for, like, 50 yards or 50 yards. 443 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:08,600 Yeah. And Gibson didn't get on the 444 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,200 field until the fourth quarter. And then after that, the coaches 445 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:15,300 relented and then I mean, so I again revisionist history go 446 00:21:15,300 --> 00:21:17,600 back and look at Gibson's usage in the passing game. 447 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,000 Like he was still sort of doing like a knight. 448 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,200 He Minds impression in the passing game, even when Brian 449 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:25,800 Robinson was getting all these touches and then they started to 450 00:21:25,800 --> 00:21:28,100 use him as a rusher more later in the year. 451 00:21:28,100 --> 00:21:32,000 And then he got, he got injured against San Francisco in week 452 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,500 15. So I was giving some Regards to 453 00:21:34,500 --> 00:21:37,100 they were throwing it out there having him run like Slants and 454 00:21:37,100 --> 00:21:39,200 like flagrant. So he caught a touchdown on like 455 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,000 a legit wide receiver slot. Flay growl. 456 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:45,300 Yeah. So it's not obviously, I mean, 457 00:21:45,300 --> 00:21:47,900 it's definitely an eye of the beholder thing because you could 458 00:21:47,900 --> 00:21:50,300 say yeah, sure. They literally brought this guy 459 00:21:50,300 --> 00:21:53,300 back, who got shot in the leg, and we're starting him over 460 00:21:53,300 --> 00:21:56,000 Antonio Gibson. And then, you can also look at 461 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:59,000 and be like, well, they saw the results, they got just giving 462 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:02,200 Brian Robinson the ball, and they were not comfortable having 463 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:06,600 Brian Robinson, be the only guy. Guy out there and I guess I 464 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,100 don't know. There's got to be a Chris 465 00:22:08,100 --> 00:22:10,200 Rodriguez truth or out there somewhere. 466 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,500 Who's like they said, they had a third-round grade on Chris 467 00:22:12,500 --> 00:22:15,500 Rodriguez. Yeah, everyone's got a 468 00:22:15,508 --> 00:22:16,600 third-round. Great on everyone. 469 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,300 They draft it's like right? It's all day everyday for your 470 00:22:19,300 --> 00:22:20,900 pack, is a third round rate ever. 471 00:22:20,900 --> 00:22:25,900 Yeah, few runs another one on this on the slide, but I should 472 00:22:25,900 --> 00:22:27,200 probably flip to the next slide. Right. 473 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,200 But perine well let's I don't know guys. 474 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,300 I want to touch on here. Okay. 475 00:22:30,500 --> 00:22:33,700 Sorry before we go but just real quick on Robinson. 476 00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,800 I think he does have a chance to be a pretty big Riser. 477 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,500 If you just have reports of like, oh yeah, Brian Robinson, 478 00:22:39,500 --> 00:22:41,900 starting running back. Oh, yeah, you know, he's getting 479 00:22:41,900 --> 00:22:45,400 reps at the ones if you just. So to me, I'm like I would like 480 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,800 to be probably maybe slightly overweight on Brian Robeson in 481 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,200 this period. It just because it's like, I 482 00:22:50,208 --> 00:22:52,800 mean all he has to do is just not totally fucking suck. 483 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:56,100 That's yeah, that's yeah. To be a net positive but he's 484 00:22:56,100 --> 00:22:58,700 also not going to win you. He's not going to be like a 485 00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:00,700 league winning. There's other ways you can get, 486 00:23:00,700 --> 00:23:02,600 we might be if I structure my team, right? 487 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:05,100 Yeah, sure. And the commanders have a good 488 00:23:05,100 --> 00:23:07,900 week 17 game too, which is part of this? 489 00:23:08,900 --> 00:23:09,800 Yeah. All right. 490 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,100 Let's let's go to Jaden read and Van Jefferson because I think 491 00:23:13,100 --> 00:23:15,500 it's kind of an interesting way to talk about. 492 00:23:15,500 --> 00:23:18,700 Like what if it's Jaden read shit, man, it's called. 493 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,200 So at this point in the year, you know, are you out on him 494 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,500 Davis? I just think I just don't see 495 00:23:23,500 --> 00:23:27,000 why I should like Crane and I had this argument last week so 496 00:23:27,008 --> 00:23:29,400 we don't need to go super in-depth and it but basically I 497 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,100 think Dobbs showed enough as a rookie to earn playing time and 498 00:23:33,108 --> 00:23:36,000 not just beat Place because they took this guy in the second 499 00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:40,100 round and Koreans Counterpoint was you get you get like eight 500 00:23:40,100 --> 00:23:43,700 starts out of around five wide receiver like Dobbs was and you 501 00:23:43,700 --> 00:23:46,000 pretty much call it good like anything you get from at that 502 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,500 point is a bonus times. Very sharp. 503 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,100 You know, there's a million of these dude there's their litter. 504 00:23:51,100 --> 00:23:52,600 There are a billion of these guys. 505 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,400 Yeah. So I'm not even saying I'm 100% 506 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:59,500 right, but I am taking dr. Reid is is the next upon digs 507 00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:01,700 comp has been. It's been prevalent in all 508 00:24:01,700 --> 00:24:03,300 honesty. That's a weird one to me. 509 00:24:03,300 --> 00:24:05,300 I don't know. Doesn't fit from the, it doesn't 510 00:24:05,300 --> 00:24:09,400 fit all it doesn't fit at all. He's a fisa for your standard 3 511 00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:10,400 year. Early declare? 512 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,400 Yeah, it's like, yeah. Who is? 513 00:24:12,500 --> 00:24:15,800 I mean, and digs was wildly productive like his entire on 514 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:19,000 her class when career and then declared early, like, I don't 515 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:22,200 think it's a, it's a bizarre comp to me. 516 00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:24,500 Other than that, like, both of them had good freshman years 517 00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:25,700 like, okay. But right. 518 00:24:25,700 --> 00:24:27,800 It's not, that's not the only thing that matters. 519 00:24:28,500 --> 00:24:31,500 Yeah, it's just the early early breakout age, but that doesn't 520 00:24:31,500 --> 00:24:33,500 make him digs. I mean, especially as a five 521 00:24:33,500 --> 00:24:36,000 year, Guy like the early big breakout age, needs to then lead 522 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:38,800 to a three-year early to Claire for for you to be on the digs 523 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,500 track? Yeah, I think reads overvalued 524 00:24:41,500 --> 00:24:47,000 personally so I don't think he's necessarily overvalued yet but 525 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:52,500 he's maybe trending that way I kind of like tacking him on with 526 00:24:52,900 --> 00:24:54,500 Jordan love stuff. You know. 527 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:56,800 I like that that's available to you as a potential backdoor 528 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,200 stack. I think this is a big 529 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,500 discussion, we should have maybe at some point, maybe it's not 530 00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:05,700 even appropriate for this show, maybe this is better for a ship 531 00:25:05,700 --> 00:25:08,000 chasing. But there is a big difference to 532 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,700 me between guys, I am comfortable clicking regardless 533 00:25:10,700 --> 00:25:13,300 of the context of my team. And guys, I'm comfortable 534 00:25:13,300 --> 00:25:17,300 clicking in a stack. Like, for example, I think 535 00:25:18,300 --> 00:25:22,000 Dalton Kincaid is like the worst ATP on the board right now, but 536 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:25,100 it's horrible ADP. He's a terrible ATP, legit 537 00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:27,300 awful. I think the worst pick, but if I 538 00:25:27,300 --> 00:25:31,700 have Have reminders. You know, if I have digs Josh 539 00:25:31,700 --> 00:25:35,200 Allen from Andre Stevens and Gabe Davis, I'll probably 540 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:36,600 fucking just click him, you know? 541 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:40,900 Because I don't even think I'm cooking my I have I have not 542 00:25:40,900 --> 00:25:48,400 done this like I have not, I have not done it yet and yet, I 543 00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,400 don't believe. But like there there is a big 544 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,300 difference between like I don't like this ATP but I'll click it 545 00:25:54,300 --> 00:25:57,800 when it works with like my stack versus like sure. 546 00:25:57,900 --> 00:26:01,400 I'll click Jaden read. If I have Christian Watson. 547 00:26:01,500 --> 00:26:03,700 Jordan, you Justin Jefferson Christian Watson. 548 00:26:03,700 --> 00:26:05,800 Jordan love. Like sure, whatever, you know. 549 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:10,600 But I'm I would never, I don't think click him an anion week 17 550 00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:17,300 stack Yeah, I don't I don't I couldn't with Kincaid on that. 551 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,800 Yes am actually sent me a couple notes from his clicking Dalton 552 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,200 Kincaid. Someone like no one's owning up 553 00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:26,900 to it. Like no one is willing to fess 554 00:26:26,900 --> 00:26:29,200 up that they're drafting. It's so weird to me because 555 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,200 Kincaid like honestly can K, could have like a 40% route 556 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:37,700 rate, the key could be so low and I think I think it best he's 557 00:26:37,700 --> 00:26:40,300 got probably around fifty five percent, that would be like, 558 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:42,800 that would be something. Take dejection. 559 00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:48,500 He's going like in the 11th round or something. 560 00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:50,800 No, no prior way higher. No. 561 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:54,800 Dalton Kincaid is even higher than that Dalton Kincaid right 562 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,800 now is the tight end 11 going at 116th. 563 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:03,900 Overall he goes five picks behind Pat, fryer Booth, he's 564 00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:06,600 jumping the shark that is the definition of Jumping the Shark 565 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:10,900 he goes ahead of Dalton Schultz, jig colca met, Greg dulcich. 566 00:27:10,900 --> 00:27:13,600 Tyler higbee herb Smith Sam laporta. 567 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,100 I mean like just straight up. Like I think laporta has a 568 00:27:16,108 --> 00:27:18,800 chance to run more routes than Kincaid so Sam. 569 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:20,100 Oh yeah. That me some notes. 570 00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:23,100 A more routes Sam sent me some notes with these slides and he 571 00:27:23,100 --> 00:27:26,300 actually sent a note as he compiled these again shout outs 572 00:27:26,300 --> 00:27:29,300 am for doing all the work on the background on it on the rookie 573 00:27:29,300 --> 00:27:30,500 Titans. You said Market is picking 574 00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:33,300 winners and losers with Kincaid. Laporte of my mayor Musgrave 575 00:27:33,300 --> 00:27:34,300 even though they all got so much off. 576 00:27:34,300 --> 00:27:36,300 Capital protection. Guidance has historically been a 577 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,700 shitshow I'll probably fade market overconfidence and go 578 00:27:38,700 --> 00:27:40,000 overweight the cheaper guys underweight. 579 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,300 The more expensive ones, it's kind of what we're talking about 580 00:27:42,300 --> 00:27:43,700 here. T frame that point to me. 581 00:27:43,700 --> 00:27:46,300 So I just wanted to You know? Yeah, yeah, no, no. 582 00:27:46,300 --> 00:27:50,300 I mean laporta and Meyer feel like if I was to do I have not 583 00:27:50,300 --> 00:27:54,300 done I've been kind of lazy with rankings but my guess is that 584 00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:57,200 when I get through rankings I'll have laporta admire right around 585 00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:01,900 tight, end 15, 16 17, something like that and I would have, I 586 00:28:01,908 --> 00:28:05,200 mean I would have knocks ranked ahead of Kincaid. 587 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:09,100 I think interesting. I mean I think that's certainly 588 00:28:09,100 --> 00:28:14,200 defensible because the the thing with Kincaid compared to those 589 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:18,600 other rookie tight tens is like, It's not just about how many 590 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,300 routes he runs over the course of the season. 591 00:28:20,300 --> 00:28:23,600 It's about how many routes he peeks at in a given game. 592 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:30,800 And I think laporta could peek at like, 70, 75, maybe, even 80% 593 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,300 route rate at the end of the season and mayor. 594 00:28:33,300 --> 00:28:35,200 I feel the same way about working. 595 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:37,400 Do you think, don't you think with the Porta there? 596 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:41,000 It also might be like a sink, a sink-or-swim thing where it's 597 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,300 like, you know, we don't have James and Williams like week. 598 00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:45,000 Let's just look try and win some games. 599 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,900 Like what do you got kid? You know, Brock rights, not 600 00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:51,000 really giving us anything. Let's go let's just toss ya fire 601 00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:53,600 if I want a better rookie QB tight on, I completely agree 602 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:55,100 it's got to be one in a passing game. 603 00:28:55,100 --> 00:28:57,700 It doesn't really have a lot of other weapons or options. 604 00:28:57,700 --> 00:29:00,200 Like it's not going to be one that has Stefon Diggs as an 605 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,500 alpha and multiple solid ancillary pieces that have been 606 00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,700 there over multiple Seasons. Josh, I'll entrust. 607 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,200 I mean. Yeah, the lines do have almond 608 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:10,200 Roth but it's they don't have a lot. 609 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:11,800 Like they're like you said sink or swim. 610 00:29:11,900 --> 00:29:13,700 The porter could be the number to pass catch. 611 00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:17,000 Those are the way the bills are almost like sneaky deep to it. 612 00:29:17,100 --> 00:29:20,000 Fever because I think Deonte hard, he's kind of interesting 613 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,700 and he's a special teams player. He's a really good kick returner 614 00:29:22,700 --> 00:29:25,500 so he's going to be active and I think, you know, Anna burner. 615 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,000 That's that's my round. That's my favorite round 8. 616 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,000 I say I love you. Yeah. 617 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:31,700 It's hard. Yeah, and Shakir I mean, I 618 00:29:31,708 --> 00:29:33,700 thought secure look pretty good and they've brought along the 619 00:29:33,700 --> 00:29:38,300 rookies pretty slowly so like I think they're better, I think 620 00:29:38,300 --> 00:29:41,000 they're straight up better off having heart of your secure out 621 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,300 there then concave and like, We hear this all the time with the 622 00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:48,400 tight end thing. Always, he's a big he's a big 623 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:51,100 slot receiver, you know, it's like okay, you know what's 624 00:29:51,100 --> 00:29:52,700 better than like a big slot receiver though? 625 00:29:52,700 --> 00:29:55,600 Just a regular slot receiver just a regular. 626 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,100 So I guess guy you feel better like a guy who just like run 627 00:29:58,100 --> 00:30:01,500 good routes of like yeah, just like a guy whose whole job is to 628 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,400 run routes and being a receiver, instead of like a half, like a 629 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,300 like this is the whole. This is the whole like Liam 630 00:30:07,300 --> 00:30:10,000 thing that he's done is that like, is that like, you know, 631 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,500 the coal Beasley role was, like, pretty valuable. 632 00:30:12,500 --> 00:30:15,700 Actually, like, Cole Beasley was on His millionaire winning team 633 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,600 and I'm like, yeah, like I get it but like Cole Beasley's, a 634 00:30:19,608 --> 00:30:21,500 better slot wide receiver than dog, Kincaid. 635 00:30:21,500 --> 00:30:24,900 Probably and more seasoned Kincaid could maybe develop into 636 00:30:24,900 --> 00:30:27,400 something as a big slot or whatever, but like you're one 637 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,100 that's a, that's a big-ass, great. 638 00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:33,500 Like like people forget that we steamed Kyle pits all the way up 639 00:30:33,500 --> 00:30:36,500 the board, right? And Kyle pits like basically 640 00:30:36,500 --> 00:30:38,700 they gave him. The route participation stuff 641 00:30:38,700 --> 00:30:42,100 that you need right away and it was pretty ugly. 642 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,100 Like I know he ended up getting to 1,000 yards. 643 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,900 But there were, it was a lot of, there's a lot of ugly weeks in 644 00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:48,500 there. I don't know. 645 00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,100 I mean, obviously, if Kincaid does Kyle puts his rookie 646 00:30:51,100 --> 00:30:54,600 season, you're taking that as a huge win and he does play with 647 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,900 them and a better offense and more pass heavy offense. 648 00:30:56,900 --> 00:31:01,000 But, you know, I mean, if you have 1,000 yards is a rookie, 649 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,300 we're all gonna eat this steak, really, really hard. 650 00:31:03,500 --> 00:31:06,600 But I don't think that I don't really see that. 651 00:31:07,100 --> 00:31:09,400 It's got personally. Then he had a funny tweet on 652 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:13,700 this, I think it was Danny, they said they want to use him as a 653 00:31:13,700 --> 00:31:17,000 weapon and He was like, anytime a diva's feel says they want to 654 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,000 use it as a weapon. They have no idea how to use it, 655 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,700 what keeps have no idea how to use? 656 00:31:20,700 --> 00:31:23,200 Yeah, those aren't. This is the junior Gibbs thing, 657 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,200 right? This is Kenny had an even 658 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,800 better. He had, he had an even better 659 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,300 dog, Kincaid tweet, and he's like, it's August 13th. 660 00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:33,300 You wake up. You need a tight end. 661 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:37,600 You clicked on Kincaid ahead of Travis Kelce knowing but you 662 00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,500 just can't he's not going to come back to you in the next 663 00:31:39,500 --> 00:31:42,600 year. Like if you just if you just 664 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,400 search Kelsey Kincaid. On Twitter right now, you're 665 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:47,200 going to get a bunch of people being like, you know, he kinda 666 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,800 reminds me of a young Travis Kelce. 667 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:53,600 Yeah, yeah, yeah. My thing with the rookie tight 668 00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:57,400 ends is like, in general, you probably shouldn't be counting 669 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,300 on a rookie tight end to like, help get you to the playoffs. 670 00:32:00,700 --> 00:32:04,200 And so therefore, I really don't want to be taking one with like 671 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,000 a core pick and I would consider around 10 pick a core pick like. 672 00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:10,900 That's that's like you need points out of around 10 pitch. 673 00:32:10,900 --> 00:32:15,300 Yeah, and if you taking a guy with around, 14 pick maybe the 674 00:32:15,300 --> 00:32:18,900 round 13 like you get a couple. Yeah. 675 00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:20,600 You've been burned in a convert a couple. 676 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,000 You don't need that every roster spot doesn't have to be live. 677 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,000 Pat. One Pat one with Sony Michelle, 678 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:26,200 you know. Yeah. 679 00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:29,400 Yeah you need, it's like the what you need out of a 13/14 680 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,800 rounders, a little different than what you need out of a 681 00:32:31,800 --> 00:32:34,600 tenth rounder. And so, that's a huge point and 682 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,700 we talked about on ship chasing last week, but it's where the 683 00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:39,300 wide receiver window. I think we talked about, like, I 684 00:32:39,300 --> 00:32:41,200 don't think people talk about it enough, but the wide receiver 685 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:44,700 window sort of drops off its and becomes like It's zone of, like, 686 00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:47,100 Lyndon Johnson. Quinton Johnson is a flowers. 687 00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:50,200 Go and I can't even like telling myself stories right sitting 688 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,700 there, I took them immediately, the wide receiver position is 689 00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:54,200 done. And at that point, it's all 690 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:56,500 Flyers because you're already at Flyers at every other position 691 00:32:56,500 --> 00:32:57,900 basically. Yeah. 692 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,200 All right, let's ban Jefferson, by the way I, the ETR guys are 693 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,200 steaming him up and I'm very annoyed. 694 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:06,700 They still haven't ranked quite a bit ahead of where he's going 695 00:33:06,700 --> 00:33:08,500 now. I think we're at Port of the 696 00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:10,900 offseason were like the rankings are going to start to shift 697 00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:14,600 atp's and in big ways and I think Jeffersons Our people have 698 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,700 been complaining about this saying that I referenced the ETR 699 00:33:17,900 --> 00:33:20,400 influence on ATP, too much. But, like, it's just such a 700 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000 clear example of this happening. Like, you got to be aware of 701 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,300 what people are drafting off of. He's literally like the biggest 702 00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:28,300 Riser on this whole list and they have him, they've had him 703 00:33:28,300 --> 00:33:30,400 like 50 pixel head of his original ADP. 704 00:33:30,700 --> 00:33:34,000 Do you guys dropped off? Rankings in the applet? 705 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:35,900 Or do you prefer to draft up a teepee? 706 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,500 I'm rankings. I'm sorry. 707 00:33:38,500 --> 00:33:41,300 I'm a teepee. Yeah, pretty much exclusively. 708 00:33:41,500 --> 00:33:43,700 I am doing rankings because I'm testing out. 709 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,900 My rankings and make sure they're not there. 710 00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,600 I always have that password keys because I was drafted ship. 711 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,800 She's always bats, rankings and pizza count. 712 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,200 It's great. I have I've experimented trying 713 00:33:56,200 --> 00:34:01,800 to do some DraftKings stuff. And I've so teaser here, I 714 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,300 might, I might do DraftKings rankings. 715 00:34:04,300 --> 00:34:08,699 I'm seeing if I can get them dialed in decently without a 716 00:34:08,707 --> 00:34:09,800 ton. More work on II. 717 00:34:09,800 --> 00:34:12,199 Just find drafting off rankings, just too hard. 718 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:15,400 I just find I find it's easier. DraftKings because it's a tee 719 00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,600 pee so bad that it's actually helpful to have guys. 720 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,000 Like, you don't have to care. Like, I'll forget about this 721 00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,400 amazing there at the school you're at the scroll around. 722 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,600 Yeah, I think it's better to draft off a tee pee on Underdog, 723 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,000 but that's because that's because atp's more efficient 724 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:29,900 there. Sorry, you're probably saying 725 00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:31,500 this, but I'm gonna say I'm drafting is your profit. 726 00:34:31,500 --> 00:34:34,100 Your rankings are probably influenced by underdogs ATP to a 727 00:34:34,107 --> 00:34:35,699 certain degree, right? And then you're uploading of the 728 00:34:35,707 --> 00:34:37,699 Draft Kings and then you're like, well, I'm using the 729 00:34:37,699 --> 00:34:42,000 smarter ADP on the side. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 730 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,800 But I'm trying but you also want some of that. 731 00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:46,100 That like Jackson Smith. And Jacob is a good example 732 00:34:46,100 --> 00:34:47,400 where like, I'm comfortable. I know. 733 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:49,500 Davis, you're not really down with him, but I'm comfortable 734 00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:51,800 taking him in, like the fifth round at the end of the fifth 735 00:34:51,800 --> 00:34:54,900 round and on Underdog partly, because you're going to get like 736 00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:57,700 locked out a wide receiver, if you don't grab a wide receiver 737 00:34:57,700 --> 00:35:01,500 and you know, I'm still willing to bet on him is like a 738 00:35:01,508 --> 00:35:03,900 late-season type of guy. And I know when I take him as 739 00:35:03,900 --> 00:35:05,900 like my wide receiver three, I realized like oh crap, I'm 740 00:35:05,900 --> 00:35:09,200 behind I need to like I feel like I'm you gotta take you got 741 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:11,800 to take you, you got to take Juju Smith Schuster on that team 742 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,400 to make sure you have someone alive for the. 743 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:15,200 Yeah. You take Jacoby Myers. 744 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,800 You grab a van Jefferson later. You look at kind of eat your 745 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,100 vegetables later in the the draft wide receiver whatever. 746 00:35:21,100 --> 00:35:26,300 But on DraftKings like you you should get that he and he gives 747 00:35:26,300 --> 00:35:28,900 in like the seventh. Eighth type of round took a 748 00:35:28,900 --> 00:35:31,600 range of there. I think you you want some of 749 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,100 that value. So I don't know. 750 00:35:33,100 --> 00:35:34,700 I'm trying I'm trying to experiment with that. 751 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,300 All right, I'm going to flip to the next slide because there's 752 00:35:37,300 --> 00:35:39,400 eight of them here and we've got a half an hour on the first 753 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,000 slides of four hours to room today. 754 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,700 What we're facing right? Wouldn't be unusual. 755 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,500 I was gonna say you can tell you can tell creches not, listen to 756 00:35:46,500 --> 00:36:04,100 this because we like we did like so I got his chest on this but 757 00:36:04,100 --> 00:36:07,700 basically we all realized we gamed this out with ADP and 758 00:36:07,700 --> 00:36:10,700 realize Alan was going to be the quarterback that fell. 759 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,800 And once the schedule came out and that's exactly. 760 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,300 What has happened Allen is and and more people who are not 761 00:36:17,300 --> 00:36:20,000 badge, Bros Wii also, all universally agree. 762 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,400 DJ more was going to be a Faller Dalvin. 763 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,000 I mean, Dalvin will be a Faller for now, but then when he 764 00:36:27,008 --> 00:36:30,000 resigns, when he signs with the dolphins or whatever or whatever 765 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:32,200 team, he signs with, I think you'll probably come back up. 766 00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,200 What's your take on down? But I think diamonds are really 767 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,900 interesting one because like I'm worried about him in terms of 768 00:36:38,900 --> 00:36:42,100 like how much he has left. I mean, the Vikings really don't 769 00:36:42,100 --> 00:36:45,800 seem interested in Him at all his contracts horrible. 770 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,300 I don't, I wouldn't read too much into that. 771 00:36:47,300 --> 00:36:50,500 Well, so it's basically in the numbers. 772 00:36:50,500 --> 00:36:53,100 I'm looking at in terms of his receiving efficiency its way 773 00:36:53,100 --> 00:36:56,200 down. Yeah, well, he's got this, he's 774 00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:59,000 got this chronic shoulder injury, doesn't he? 775 00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:02,400 Like, basically, like and so I just imagine that it's hard to 776 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:05,900 be an efficient player. When you have a chronic still 777 00:37:05,900 --> 00:37:07,200 wasn't efficient Runner last year. 778 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:09,700 Let's be fair. I mean, no, he wasn't four point 779 00:37:09,700 --> 00:37:11,700 four yards. Per attempt is like he 780 00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:13,700 inflammation. Success rate here. 781 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:17,600 Was sixth worst. Fifth worst you have at worst 782 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,300 success rate was poor. Gotta hit on some long runs then 783 00:37:22,300 --> 00:37:28,100 I don't really remember. It wasn't quite as bad, but it 784 00:37:28,107 --> 00:37:31,400 was negative for 44 yards per carry isn't terrible. 785 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:36,700 Yeah, but I guess like me that the NJ look at like, yeah. 786 00:37:37,100 --> 00:37:39,600 They look like where the Defenders are and whatever on 787 00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:42,200 the play and so he might have had some more light boxes, you 788 00:37:42,207 --> 00:37:44,700 know, I've run three wide a lot, I guess so. 789 00:37:45,700 --> 00:37:47,900 I mean, here's the thing of Dalvin is the lead back for the 790 00:37:47,900 --> 00:37:51,800 Miami Dolphins. 71 is a good price on him, right? 791 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:58,000 But, but if he ends up being in, I don't know like what we're if 792 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,700 he shines with the Buccaneers or something, you know, like 793 00:38:00,700 --> 00:38:06,500 they're there. oh my God but if he goes to the Chargers, Yeah, I 794 00:38:06,508 --> 00:38:09,200 guess guess we should probably start mixing them in because at 795 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:12,100 least in terms of closing line value, like I don't know. 796 00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:15,000 I'm, I am worried about him in terms of like he was worse than 797 00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:16,500 David Montgomery and rushes over expect. 798 00:38:16,500 --> 00:38:18,400 Hell, is he going to be done? Like, I don't know, I guess 799 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,800 running back to do just get done like whenever and it just 800 00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:23,500 happens overnight. So so it's totally possible. 801 00:38:23,500 --> 00:38:26,700 Yeah, some guys lose it like real quick and he's not young, 802 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,600 he's yeah. 2728 in August. Yeah, yeah. 803 00:38:32,300 --> 00:38:35,500 You know, who do, you know, who is the biggest value on this 804 00:38:35,500 --> 00:38:37,100 fall Earth list that we have right here? 805 00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:41,600 Kenny, Kenny Walker has reached the point now where I'm him and 806 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,500 Sharps honestly, both, I'm very comfortable, clicking them where 807 00:38:44,500 --> 00:38:47,000 they go. So I've been saying Walker's a 808 00:38:47,008 --> 00:38:51,400 fifth-round value ever since the draft and so I kind of want him 809 00:38:51,900 --> 00:38:54,800 to fall a little further before, but I've seen him in the mid 810 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:58,300 50's and I I'm down to take him there, partly? 811 00:38:58,300 --> 00:39:00,200 Because I'm like, I don't see him falling too much further 812 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,700 than that. So it's like, all right. 813 00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:06,300 I just think I think there's a real stink, there's a re liable 814 00:39:06,300 --> 00:39:08,500 DeadZone picked to me. Well that's the thing is, I 815 00:39:08,508 --> 00:39:10,900 think they're like obviously that's just kind of it's just 816 00:39:10,900 --> 00:39:12,700 kind of a dead zone of the draft in general. 817 00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:16,800 I mean when you when you get to where he's going like so after 818 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:21,900 Gibbs Watson and jobber ago, Dude, you're in the wilderness, 819 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,100 you think, you know, there's something to hate about pretty 820 00:39:25,100 --> 00:39:27,600 much everyone, honestly, for the rest of the draft. 821 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,200 But sometimes I'm sitting there and I'm like, okay, Kenny Walker 822 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:35,300 or TJ, Hawkinson, you know, or Kenny Walker for DJ more. 823 00:39:35,300 --> 00:39:39,200 And I'm like, I'm not clicking DJ more like no chance, right? 824 00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:42,800 And I do like Walker much more than the four running backs to 825 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:46,200 go immediately after him Jones. Aaron Jones miles Sanders. 826 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,700 Yeah, and you zoom and Joe Mixon me, too. 827 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,700 Although I mean, I kind of like, DJ more. 828 00:39:51,700 --> 00:39:54,800 Once he gets down until like the very late 4th early 5th. 829 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,100 I think that I think he's gonna, I think he's gonna keep. 830 00:39:57,100 --> 00:40:00,000 I think he's gonna keep sliding. I think the, I think the slide 831 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,300 now that now, that projections and stuff, we're getting out 832 00:40:02,300 --> 00:40:04,500 there and people are doing rankings, I think we'll see us. 833 00:40:04,500 --> 00:40:08,600 I don't think he's slides too much past, the mid fifth because 834 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,000 Fields is going to be in the fourth and so you just have that 835 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,600 easy clean stack. If you come back for five, you 836 00:40:14,607 --> 00:40:17,100 can take. Yeah, you're gonna so I don't 837 00:40:17,100 --> 00:40:20,200 think if you're waiting for sixth round DJ more, I don't 838 00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:22,600 Think you're getting it. I think you should though. 839 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:24,500 I think you should get it but I don't know. 840 00:40:24,500 --> 00:40:27,000 But I don't think you're right to say that you won't get it. 841 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,000 Yeah, I just uh if the I don't think DJ more is going to be the 842 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,600 guy who kills my reason. Honestly if I don't know if I 843 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,200 and I've always loved DJ more, I've always been higher on the 844 00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:42,300 market but this situation and and I know I mean, no one really 845 00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:45,800 like do Chase Claypool is going to play and I don't care really 846 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,200 that he was so bad for them last year. 847 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:51,400 I mean I do if I'm if I'm worried about If I'm going to 848 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,100 factor it into DJ more, I mean DJ more is going to have the 849 00:40:54,107 --> 00:40:56,600 best quarterback play like of his entire career. 850 00:40:57,100 --> 00:41:01,100 I have just don't really I think with the low volume you need and 851 00:41:01,100 --> 00:41:03,300 more one of the really exciting things about Morris. 852 00:41:03,300 --> 00:41:06,000 He's been successful at all. Depths you need him to have the 853 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,400 Deep efficiency Fields. Can throw a good deep ball. 854 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:10,100 I think that's really Central to him. 855 00:41:10,100 --> 00:41:12,500 Actually hitting some type of ceiling this year as any hits on 856 00:41:12,500 --> 00:41:15,500 a lot of deep shots. So, I think lately and also 857 00:41:15,500 --> 00:41:19,000 Tyler Scott who they brought in, in the draft, is a good deep 858 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:20,100 shot guy that I think will hit on. 859 00:41:20,300 --> 00:41:24,400 A few of those this year, think more might get used underneath, 860 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,200 a decent amount. Tyler Scott was what? 861 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,400 Like day three, pick. I mean, he's Danny Gray. 862 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:32,700 He's Danny Gray. Danny, Danny grunting on some, 863 00:41:33,500 --> 00:41:36,100 some clear out routes. I think he's got speed, right? 864 00:41:36,600 --> 00:41:40,000 Here's the thing. If what you just said is true 865 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,500 and DJ Moore's, the underneath guy in the Justin Fields Bears 866 00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:46,500 off do is then it's over. That's why I said, it's so 867 00:41:46,500 --> 00:41:49,800 Central that he gets deep shots. Absolutely, and the other my 868 00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:51,400 point is and then Darnell Mooney is well. 869 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,400 The other receivers and even Vilas Jones. 870 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,400 If they use him at all the other receiver, oh my God. 871 00:42:00,700 --> 00:42:02,800 Is Love Jones like a, like, a big Tavon. 872 00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:04,400 Austin, isn't he just the gadgety guy? 873 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,800 Yeah, he's like a punt returner. He's also 37. 874 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,000 So we might retire before. Yeah. 875 00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,200 So I don't think anything about him. 876 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:12,400 I think if you just look at kind of what happened here with the 877 00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,800 Bears, they came in last year and they were like we don't even 878 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,000 know what we have and we're certainly not going to commit to 879 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:21,600 Justin Fields. They didn't they didn't bring 880 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:23,000 in. I mean, I guess they brought a 881 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,400 Claypool halfway through the year which was a terrible trade 882 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,000 but they didn't do anything with the offensive line. 883 00:42:28,300 --> 00:42:31,400 He didn't really have any weapons and Then when they move 884 00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:33,700 off the number one, pick a big part of that trade, was them 885 00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:36,400 getting DJ more. So I think there's, at least a 886 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:41,100 chance that we see a bit of a different Bears team than what 887 00:42:41,100 --> 00:42:43,100 we saw last year because last year they need, if they play the 888 00:42:43,100 --> 00:42:46,200 way they played last year, it's so awful for everyone. 889 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,400 But for, yeah, I expect. But that was, like, historical. 890 00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,700 That was like, some real, like ideological shit. 891 00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:56,000 That's what, so that's, I think that's like the important point 892 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:58,700 is that when people are projecting this, increase in 893 00:42:58,700 --> 00:43:01,600 pass attempts for the Bears, it's Like your it's that's like 894 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:07,200 saying like you know, we're going from the Bronze Age to 895 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:10,800 like we have the wheel now you know that's not that's not 896 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,100 historically accurate but it's like it's not, it's not the 897 00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:16,000 leap, it's not the statement from things happening after the 898 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,700 wheel. Yes I didn't I didn't that was 899 00:43:20,700 --> 00:43:22,100 not. That was not, that was not the 900 00:43:22,100 --> 00:43:26,500 right analogy for me but basically they could they could 901 00:43:26,500 --> 00:43:33,600 throw 20% more and still be. The lowest or second lowest 902 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,100 volume passing offense in the NFL for sure. 903 00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:37,300 Yeah. But that's actually part of the 904 00:43:37,308 --> 00:43:40,400 reason why I like, have some optimism for more because it's 905 00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,500 like some regression. Like, be the Ravens be, the 906 00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:45,800 Ravens and I'm psyched. You know, like, I mean if that's 907 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:48,400 so, like, I guess like you are cited a fourth. 908 00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,100 No, no, no, because I'm not at not at where he was going, but 909 00:43:51,100 --> 00:43:53,400 I'm saying, if I'm getting the fifth, I think I'm okay with the 910 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,600 part of part of the idea of them being the Ravens is that Fields. 911 00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,700 Also, just like, as Lamar did take a big step and efficiency 912 00:43:59,700 --> 00:44:02,300 that Fields also. Takes a big step in efficiency, 913 00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:04,700 which is easier for running quarterbacks to do because the 914 00:44:04,700 --> 00:44:07,300 safeties are, you know, like they have a different job 915 00:44:07,300 --> 00:44:08,700 against the Run. There's a lot of different 916 00:44:08,700 --> 00:44:13,200 reasons for that. I think my prior is that Fields 917 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,900 is not that guy and I'm always, I'm willing to adjust my priors 918 00:44:18,500 --> 00:44:22,600 but I think really, it's just the sax thing for Fields. 919 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:26,000 It's not as if one number of bothers you so much. 920 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:27,500 A number of time ship chasing a couple times. 921 00:44:27,500 --> 00:44:29,400 Twenty-eight percent 20% of Dropbox. 922 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:32,200 Last year, did not turn into To a pass attempt, which is an 923 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:34,500 astronomical number. He is tied for the league lead 924 00:44:34,500 --> 00:44:36,400 in this act. I mean massive. 925 00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:39,300 He led the NFL in scrambles and he also was tied for the league 926 00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:40,600 lead in sacks and has dropped back. 927 00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:42,800 Number was very low because they didn't call a lot of passes. 928 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,700 So the fact that he from a raw perspective, let in both of 929 00:44:45,700 --> 00:44:49,000 those non pass. Attempt categories, isn't great. 930 00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,300 I think it speaks to Claypool and Mooney, not winning down the 931 00:44:52,300 --> 00:44:54,300 field as like big-time vertical threats. 932 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,600 But I also think it speaks to why they went and got DJ more. 933 00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:58,400 They're like, we need a legit number one. 934 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:01,000 Who can be open quicker in the Drop back. 935 00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,800 We don't have a great offensive line, I think they specifically 936 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,100 see him as this. Yak guy in short and 937 00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:09,100 intermediate ranges. He does have deep throat ability 938 00:45:09,100 --> 00:45:11,400 but they already had all that on their roster short and 939 00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,000 intermediate is, why did they acquire DJ mourn? 940 00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:15,800 For me. It's well, they want to make it 941 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,100 so that, that, that tells us a place to go with the ball, early 942 00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:21,600 and has dropped back field. And it feels a little precise to 943 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,300 me to say, though, that he's only going to do that. 944 00:45:24,300 --> 00:45:27,100 Like, I don't think so, but it's a big part of the range, right? 945 00:45:27,100 --> 00:45:31,500 Like you have to be, I think it's precise to find Way out of 946 00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,200 this working, right? Like from a number perspective, 947 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:37,400 like you have to get a regression on volume, you got to 948 00:45:37,408 --> 00:45:39,500 get a regression on a fields of efficiency. 949 00:45:39,500 --> 00:45:42,300 You got to get regression on on volume both in terms of call 950 00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:44,100 past place and the scrambles and stack stuff. 951 00:45:44,100 --> 00:45:46,600 Probably both sides of those have to get better and is 952 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,000 overall pass attempt verse, drop back ratio as to improve from 953 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:52,800 both angles, which are two different issues in my opinion 954 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,600 or related. But I mean there's there's a 955 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:59,300 lotta guy though along the way. We're getting a guy mean in some 956 00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:01,700 ways, I don't think it's that precise to bet on more. 957 00:46:01,700 --> 00:46:04,200 It sort of just it's like it's a pretty simple thing. 958 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,300 Like this guy we're taking the third round last year who is 959 00:46:07,300 --> 00:46:10,900 going to have an upgrade in quarterback play and is and can 960 00:46:10,900 --> 00:46:13,200 do everything. He can be, he can win deep, you 961 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,500 can win underneath I don't even have a great year old lady. 962 00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:17,500 That's the other thing on a precise thing. 963 00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:19,900 Patty, you just hit on that. He didn't have a great year last 964 00:46:19,900 --> 00:46:21,500 year either. We're not pricing that in at 965 00:46:21,500 --> 00:46:22,700 all. He was going to throw up last 966 00:46:22,700 --> 00:46:23,800 year. I loved it. 967 00:46:24,100 --> 00:46:28,600 He came down last year and targets for outrun in a lowest 968 00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,500 yard front of his career. Not great season last year as he 969 00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:35,700 started to get into his further into his 20s but I didn't have 970 00:46:35,700 --> 00:46:37,900 the worst quarterback in the entire League last year. 971 00:46:38,500 --> 00:46:41,500 Yes, his whole career, he's typically overcometh still the 972 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:43,600 right. You know, the yak and stuff 973 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,800 wasn't still there. It was a little bit concerning 974 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:51,200 actually that is it that is a I think actually a pretty decent 975 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,400 concerned because on top of the volume stuff now we have to 976 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,100 wonder too DJ more. Is he falling off a little bit? 977 00:46:57,100 --> 00:47:00,500 All right. Yeah but I think at the I don't 978 00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:02,900 I I tried and sad. I don't think that I don't think 979 00:47:02,900 --> 00:47:04,700 I don't see any Fallout from him. 980 00:47:04,700 --> 00:47:08,000 Like I'm just saying in terms of you have to get a lot of things 981 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,900 right for this to be right? There's all the volumes if I was 982 00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:13,600 saying there's at least a minor concern that his numbers last 983 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:16,100 year were worse than any other Unis career objectively. 984 00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:17,800 I don't think it's you get that many things, right? 985 00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,600 If you think you have to get he's DJ more, he's not he didn't 986 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:24,600 become bad, he's DJ more super-talented guy who succeeded 987 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:28,600 with terrible quarterbacks and the Bears pass a little bit more 988 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,300 and Fields, isn't isn't horrible. 989 00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:33,500 It is it's three things but which is, which is too much for, 990 00:47:33,500 --> 00:47:36,000 like, a middle of fourth-round pick, which is why he's falling, 991 00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:42,600 but I think if he falls a little more, because I've done things 992 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,800 where I've taken him in the late fourth, because the guys on the 993 00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:49,500 turn already had quarterbacks, you know, like one guy's got 994 00:47:49,500 --> 00:47:52,000 Alan one guy's got hurt or whatever and I'm like, and then 995 00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:54,600 Fields comes back around because Fields is falling a little bit 996 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,100 too. So I think if you can set up 997 00:47:56,100 --> 00:48:01,000 that stack, I'm into it. I mean, if Fields has A great 998 00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:03,600 year. DJ Morse going to crush like 999 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:05,800 that that I feel pretty strongly about hotter. 1000 00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:09,900 Yes yeah absolutely I have that backwards. 1001 00:48:09,900 --> 00:48:13,500 I think if DJ more crushes then Fields having a great year but I 1002 00:48:13,508 --> 00:48:15,800 don't think it's a precursor to Fields having a great year. 1003 00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:17,300 I don't think you have to stack them with more. 1004 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,000 I think you don't have any stock decently talented player. 1005 00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,300 Claypool's a decently talented player Fields runs a ton and 1006 00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:26,600 those guys are good enough. More can definitely be an 1007 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,500 underwhelming performance at this ADP and Fields, concealed 1008 00:48:29,500 --> 00:48:32,000 smash with rushing. And other guys of contributing. 1009 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,400 Yeah, it's probably fair. Just how much rushing Equity, as 1010 00:48:34,700 --> 00:48:36,000 right? You can own for 1,000 yards, 1011 00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:38,900 anyone else will do. I wanted to mention on the Allen 1012 00:48:38,900 --> 00:48:41,300 stuff in the quarterback stuff, just in general, I do think that 1013 00:48:41,300 --> 00:48:45,500 there's something with. Okay, so Borough goes like in a 1014 00:48:45,500 --> 00:48:49,100 Range that makes absolutely zero sense, right? 1015 00:48:49,100 --> 00:48:53,100 You can't you can't stack Borough because he goes kind of 1016 00:48:53,100 --> 00:48:54,600 in that early fourth round range. 1017 00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,100 And I'm like, who has who has been drafting burrow like you 1018 00:48:59,100 --> 00:49:01,800 can't get him with Chase or Higgins who were on the other 1019 00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,200 side of the board? And part of me just feels like 1020 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,700 maybe he has to fall a little bit. 1021 00:49:07,700 --> 00:49:11,200 I've seen Fields starting to fall a bit. 1022 00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,800 This is DraftKings. So who knows if it's meaningful, 1023 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,300 but I've gotten fields and like the early 5th round. 1024 00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:24,700 And I'm like, okay, if burrow and Fields were to fall and I 1025 00:49:24,700 --> 00:49:30,000 know that I can get those guys a couple rounds later as a early 1026 00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:34,700 part of the board, rafter. Then why am I taking like Allen 1027 00:49:34,700 --> 00:49:39,700 and homes and hurts their, when I'm like, oh, I can get fields 1028 00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:43,900 and burrow a few rounds later, like, and maybe I'm stacked. 1029 00:49:43,900 --> 00:49:45,300 Maybe I is the Jamar Chase drafter. 1030 00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:48,500 I'm like, well, I feel confident I can get Borough later if he 1031 00:49:48,500 --> 00:49:50,500 starts to fall. So I think like these all these 1032 00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:53,600 early quarterbacks are kind of intertwined because if they do, 1033 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,800 they're definitely. I mean, look at six of these 1034 00:49:55,800 --> 00:49:57,600 names up here are all quarterbacks falling. 1035 00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:00,500 I think the quarterback Market is just correcting a little bit 1036 00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:02,100 because everyone was just a little bit pump. 1037 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,200 Shut up. Yeah, but I think burrow might 1038 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,300 be the key to it. If Borough falls to the end of 1039 00:50:07,300 --> 00:50:10,200 the fourth, then I think all these quarterbacks, I think 1040 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,900 Trevor Lawrence is the canary in the coal mine because he just 1041 00:50:12,900 --> 00:50:15,600 does not deserve to be like a sixth-round pick or whatever. 1042 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:18,100 I have. I have a Watson ranked over him 1043 00:50:18,100 --> 00:50:19,500 in my pure rank. Yeah. 1044 00:50:19,500 --> 00:50:21,300 Lauren's. I completely agree on that like 1045 00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:25,200 very aggressive projection of what he did late in the year and 1046 00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,500 what that means and how were these going to fit like a like 1047 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,000 he's gotta be without a ton of rushing Equity. 1048 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:33,500 I mean he's got some Mobility but he's got to be like a look. 1049 00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:38,100 A top three, top five and Bishop a circle, you like Mahomes our 1050 00:50:38,100 --> 00:50:40,100 Borough. Basically that price. 1051 00:50:40,100 --> 00:50:42,300 All right, let's talk about. Let's talk about Trey, Lance. 1052 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,700 So so today, what a city is this is a weekly thing I did it 1053 00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:49,500 teaches it is it's a weekly thing. 1054 00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:52,400 Yeah. Well what what is so bizarre 1055 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,000 about it? I'd them. 1056 00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:57,500 So the market right now is basically like we don't know 1057 00:50:57,900 --> 00:51:00,800 because Purdy is not going any higher. 1058 00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:04,100 Donald is like, going ahead of like starting Actually knows 1059 00:51:04,100 --> 00:51:07,100 dark and Arnold is like the quarterback 35. 1060 00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,900 I was TV answer. Darn it. 1061 00:51:08,900 --> 00:51:10,500 Darn old feels like a burnt pick. 1062 00:51:10,500 --> 00:51:13,800 I've never been good at first. I would leave you. 1063 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:17,500 You're literally like it's your the we're all trying to find the 1064 00:51:17,500 --> 00:51:19,600 guy who did this mean, you popularize? 1065 00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:22,200 The idea that they gave him a bunch of money. 1066 00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:24,800 It's hold him. This is you had a chance to 1067 00:51:24,800 --> 00:51:26,600 start. This is literally your deal, 1068 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:27,800 dude. Wait, what? 1069 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,800 Donald know. My point was the things they 1070 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,400 were saying in the media about. Yeah, he has a chance to start 1071 00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,600 or what you would expect. For them, bringing in a 1072 00:51:34,607 --> 00:51:37,000 quarterback and that their reaction to bringing in a third 1073 00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,400 quarterback, made perfect sense. If you look at the way their 1074 00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,400 season went last year with three quarterbacks got hurt, including 1075 00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:43,600 one in the NFC Championship came in. 1076 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,900 They had no one to play. Yeah, they're going to go get 1077 00:51:45,900 --> 00:51:47,500 more quarterback, that they think that's smart. 1078 00:51:47,600 --> 00:51:49,500 And yeah, to entice a former top five pick. 1079 00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:51,300 They're going to tell me as a chance to start. 1080 00:51:51,300 --> 00:51:53,000 I don't think he actually has a chance to start. 1081 00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,900 Like that's the thing is like I don't think he's good. 1082 00:51:54,900 --> 00:51:57,200 I don't think he can win the job from a talent perspective. 1083 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,100 I don't think they're serious with what they're saying in the 1084 00:51:59,107 --> 00:52:01,100 spring about what's actually going to happen in training 1085 00:52:01,100 --> 00:52:02,100 camp. I don't know. 1086 00:52:02,100 --> 00:52:03,500 I think he can probably beat out tray. 1087 00:52:03,700 --> 00:52:06,200 It's in a fair fight, to be honest at this point. 1088 00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,500 Oh man, he's in your hair with Brilliance after four days in 1089 00:52:09,500 --> 00:52:11,100 the lab. Fixes, throwing motion. 1090 00:52:11,500 --> 00:52:14,200 No, no, dude. So, there's I Karina and I are 1091 00:52:14,200 --> 00:52:17,100 DMS, or just us going back and forth on players who are 1092 00:52:17,107 --> 00:52:20,600 terrible and so are the most like we, I like every time I get 1093 00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,400 like a trail and blurb, that breaks my mind, I just show it 1094 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,200 to him. And the most recent one, is that 1095 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:28,400 the guy who worked with Mahomes coming out of Texas, Tech soup 1096 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,400 when time working with Trail and it was like, yeah, normally it 1097 00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,600 takes about a day to like, you Kind of go through everything 1098 00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,400 and understand what a guys doing, you know, mechanistically 1099 00:52:37,400 --> 00:52:39,900 or whatever took four days with trick. 1100 00:52:39,900 --> 00:52:44,600 Like basically, like basically like just have you ever flown 1101 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,400 before? Why is your motion? 1102 00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:49,800 So inconsistent, why does it look like a five-year-old's? 1103 00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:54,100 It's it's insane. So like I think I've I started 1104 00:52:54,100 --> 00:52:56,300 out. I mean, Crane and I were arguing 1105 00:52:56,300 --> 00:52:59,000 about this a lot in the first iterations of this program, I'm 1106 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:02,500 a purdy bro. Now I'm like the 49ers hate 1107 00:53:02,500 --> 00:53:05,100 Trail ants. They It's like, it's like, you 1108 00:53:05,100 --> 00:53:07,400 know, someone will ask how Shanahan some do you know 1109 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,600 D'Amico Ryan's left? You know, what are you going to 1110 00:53:09,607 --> 00:53:11,500 do about the defense? And he'll be like, yeah, you had 1111 00:53:11,500 --> 00:53:14,000 no totally, but like fuck Trail and so like make sure you get 1112 00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,800 that in the article. So I'm just a pretty bro. 1113 00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:24,800 Now and the report that came out this week is re murabba at my 1114 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,400 sports update said something. I had not heard, which is that 1115 00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,800 as a part of this hybrid surgery that they did with trailer with 1116 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:37,200 Purdy that They'll know where he is on his healing curve. 1117 00:53:37,300 --> 00:53:40,300 If he's going to be ready, like if the surgery was successful by 1118 00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:44,000 like June, so they'll basically be able to look at it. 1119 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,000 Hmm. Judge his recovery judge. 1120 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,800 His probably like his get his grip strength and stuff and be 1121 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,000 like, yeah, this is going to work or know all the officers 1122 00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:54,300 and discussions are gonna have a winner or Loser by June, that's 1123 00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:57,700 exciting. Well, so Cobra, Kai saying that 1124 00:53:57,700 --> 00:54:00,200 he's trailing, it's never been cheaper, but can only be used in 1125 00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,500 three quarterback, builds in a ceiling. 1126 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,200 Could be Jalen. Stir It Up. 1127 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:06,800 I disagree with this three quarterback built. 1128 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:09,900 Yeah, I'm pretty strongly, I think, the more you can burn an 1129 00:54:09,900 --> 00:54:11,500 entry on train. Lance, why not? 1130 00:54:11,600 --> 00:54:15,500 Yeah, if you're going to take Trail ants the payoff, only 1131 00:54:15,500 --> 00:54:20,900 happens if you draft in a to quarterback build because that's 1132 00:54:20,900 --> 00:54:23,900 an extreme only. Well, I don't, I don't I don't 1133 00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:25,800 agree with that. I agree with the large Point. 1134 00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,200 You're trying to make here about like you're trying to win a 1135 00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:31,000 couple million dollars. Let me let me finish the point 1136 00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,700 because I think. Okay. 1137 00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,700 How does Trey, Lance, pay off Trail Ends pays off because he 1138 00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:42,100 is the guy who's starting right away because Brock / D isn't 1139 00:54:42,100 --> 00:54:45,300 ready and pretend potentially rock pretty, you know, we get 1140 00:54:45,300 --> 00:54:48,000 news that the surgery, didn't go great, he's gonna have to get 1141 00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:51,200 another surgery, whatever you don't want to have. 1142 00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:54,800 If that happens, Trail ants in the 15th round is an absolute 1143 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,900 smash provided. You drafted like he is actually 1144 00:54:58,900 --> 00:55:01,300 going to be your quarterback to. I don't think you want to have 1145 00:55:01,300 --> 00:55:03,400 burned a tenth round. Pick on another quarterback. 1146 00:55:03,900 --> 00:55:08,300 Otherwise, like what have you really gained with drafting 1147 00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:09,300 Trail? And sure he's going to be 1148 00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:12,300 helpful, but you've spent too much of the quarterback 1149 00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:14,000 position. You didn't, you didn't build 1150 00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:18,900 your team to benefit from that win enough in my opinion. 1151 00:55:19,100 --> 00:55:23,500 So you can gain playoff ceiling without I mean, because one of 1152 00:55:23,500 --> 00:55:25,500 the one of the things that market might be telling us is 1153 00:55:25,500 --> 00:55:28,000 that multiple guys are going to start games here. 1154 00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,700 And so like part of the Judgment which I think I agree with, by 1155 00:55:30,700 --> 00:55:31,100 the way. Yeah. 1156 00:55:31,100 --> 00:55:33,300 Like so the part of my thing was saying Donald is not that he 1157 00:55:33,300 --> 00:55:35,000 can't. Start games and said, I don't, I 1158 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:37,300 think you'll fucking suck and then you'll start, you'll have 1159 00:55:37,300 --> 00:55:39,000 to go get benched after three games, right? 1160 00:55:39,000 --> 00:55:41,800 They'll go to someone else who ever seen, whether it's Lancer 1161 00:55:41,800 --> 00:55:43,700 per day or whatever. I think they're gonna 1162 00:55:44,100 --> 00:55:47,700 potentially use multiple guys. This is you talk, like Mariota 1163 00:55:47,700 --> 00:55:49,000 and Ritter. This was the thought going in 1164 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,300 last year, and the market was pretty correct about it. 1165 00:55:51,300 --> 00:55:55,000 Mario could be pretty, good, light round, but not valuable 1166 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:58,800 enough for what matters because he might miss. 1167 00:55:59,300 --> 00:56:02,500 Their, I can't get mad, which is why you take Purdy, I think 1168 00:56:02,500 --> 00:56:05,000 which is why which is why Because when the games matter 1169 00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:09,200 Purdy's playing. So right and so common here at 1170 00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,600 that price, Trail Ends could pay off, just putting up 30 in week 1171 00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,200 17, that's not the play. The tray Lance is Trey, Lance is 1172 00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,600 not a week, 17 plate Purdy's, the week, 17 play birdies, the 1173 00:56:18,607 --> 00:56:22,800 guy who if you're just trying to have someone come in and help 1174 00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:25,100 you at the end of season, drafted three, quarterback team 1175 00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:26,600 with Purdy. Yeah. 1176 00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:29,400 But Trey, Lance is a, he takes the job from week. 1177 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,900 One and run wins. Yeah, he's good. 1178 00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:33,500 He's good. They'd be pretty. 1179 00:56:33,700 --> 00:56:36,200 On the bed and he adds another element to their offense if they 1180 00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,800 can't take out anymore because he can Rush then that, is that 1181 00:56:38,800 --> 00:56:40,800 the Playbook? And they're like we got to keep 1182 00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,300 starting it. Exactly. 1183 00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:46,000 And so in that, if that happens, do you want that in a two or 1184 00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,000 three? You strongly want that in a to 1185 00:56:48,000 --> 00:56:50,800 quarterback built and you by the way, your tears not going to 1186 00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:53,900 win, if you take Trail and a fifteenth round, like, I guess 1187 00:56:53,900 --> 00:56:57,000 you could overcome it, you know, having a dead 15th round picks 1188 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,200 certainly, but it's like then just don't take him if you don't 1189 00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,000 think he's gonna win the job outright, just don't You can 1190 00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:04,900 then take someone out. Yes. 1191 00:57:04,900 --> 00:57:07,300 You have if you have no conviction ensure a lance like 1192 00:57:07,300 --> 00:57:09,700 just just don't, it's not an ambiguous. 1193 00:57:09,700 --> 00:57:11,300 Know I grew up this it's not an ambiguous. 1194 00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:13,300 Like what's up by the biggest? Backfield his running back some 1195 00:57:13,300 --> 00:57:14,800 like what the payoff is, what quarterbacks? 1196 00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:16,600 It doesn't have to be that because you can just go to a 1197 00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,100 different quarterback that is going to start 17 games or very 1198 00:57:19,100 --> 00:57:20,500 likely will start 17-game, right? 1199 00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:23,300 Like you don't have to be right on an ambiguous quarterback 1200 00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:25,600 situation because if each of them does start that the Niners 1201 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,500 had one year, were they had three different quarterbacks 1202 00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:28,900 started? Like almost exactly. 1203 00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:31,700 A third of the season was the year, they acquired Garoppolo 1204 00:57:31,700 --> 00:57:33,400 late. If each of these guys does start 1205 00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:35,900 multiplying people games, probably all of them won't be 1206 00:57:35,900 --> 00:57:37,700 great place. Even if there is a ceiling game 1207 00:57:37,700 --> 00:57:40,000 in there somewhere because it won't be great for built, you'd 1208 00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:43,500 like to have multiple, quarterbacks two, quarterbacks 1209 00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:46,900 ideally that are playing 17 games and are both good and open 1210 00:57:46,900 --> 00:57:50,600 up the rest of your roster like to use a spot on a guy that only 1211 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,200 starts, you know, eight or fewer games, but has some ceiling 1212 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,100 games, is probably pretty tough because quarterback points are 1213 00:57:56,100 --> 00:57:57,300 replaceable. As you've written about this 1214 00:57:57,300 --> 00:58:01,500 offseason Pat like the 30 points in week 17 that obviously, on 1215 00:58:01,500 --> 00:58:03,900 its face would be ideal, it would be great to have You're 1216 00:58:03,900 --> 00:58:06,600 under thing but it's more replaceable quarterback than a 1217 00:58:06,607 --> 00:58:09,300 30-point spike week at any other position, right? 1218 00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:12,300 Like we're not just trying to grab out of ambiguous, 1219 00:58:12,300 --> 00:58:15,300 quarterbacks situations, the way we are at other positions, it 1220 00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:17,200 doesn't make it the payoff isn't as large right? 1221 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:20,700 It's not as large. Yeah, the comment here saying 1222 00:58:20,700 --> 00:58:22,500 you can get Lance in the last round if you can get Lance in 1223 00:58:22,508 --> 00:58:24,100 the last round which isn't his ATP? 1224 00:58:24,100 --> 00:58:27,500 Then you can you find fairly fairly frequently you can? 1225 00:58:27,700 --> 00:58:30,100 I'm not going I'm not. This is more of a take of like 1226 00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:33,200 if you're trying to make sure you get like Lance exposure at 1227 00:58:33,200 --> 00:58:34,400 this. Rice generally. 1228 00:58:35,300 --> 00:58:38,700 Yeah and I think yeah param with param with an elite probably 1229 00:58:38,700 --> 00:58:41,100 someone mentioned that he's kind of like Kyle, are you comparing 1230 00:58:41,100 --> 00:58:44,200 with an elite yet gypsylord, said he's like Kyler if he's our 1231 00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,200 second quarterback with an elite, I've been doing, I've 1232 00:58:46,200 --> 00:58:49,200 been doing this, I've been doing this Kyler thing of like the 1233 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:50,700 wind horse meme. Like what? 1234 00:58:50,700 --> 00:58:53,900 Like what if Kyler comes back and like week 6, and it's like 1235 00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:57,000 Kyler because he's just so happy to not be with Cliff any more, 1236 00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,300 like, it's pretty intriguing, right? 1237 00:58:59,400 --> 00:59:00,500 Yeah. Because, you know, yeah, because 1238 00:59:00,500 --> 00:59:03,500 the whole Market is treating the Cardinals, like they're there. 1239 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,200 Radioactive and they very well might be, I mean their rosters 1240 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:10,700 terrible. But if the new coach is good, 1241 00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:16,600 Kyler's feeling better, you know, Rondell DeAndre, I'm not 1242 00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:19,900 obviously able to draft a ton of underdogs but I'm drafted, my 1243 00:59:21,300 --> 00:59:24,500 John Posh ones that that fancy cares, eliminated or leaks and 1244 00:59:24,500 --> 00:59:26,600 yeah, The Eliminator leagues. You can get balance each week 1245 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,800 Kyler was radioactive to everyone of my league and I 1246 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:30,500 eventually took him out. I was thinking the same thing as 1247 00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:36,000 you like, I mean, it's a super Flex format but I was Like I can 1248 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,200 see the upside later in the year early in the year, you know, 1249 00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:41,100 that it starts to whittle down totally different format, but 1250 00:59:41,500 --> 00:59:44,100 you would think in an Eliminator League you would stay away from 1251 00:59:44,100 --> 00:59:45,700 Pilar. But I'm enough with you on this 1252 00:59:45,700 --> 00:59:47,600 that I could see it. That I was like I'm willing to 1253 00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,400 take this path. The big payoff though is that 1254 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:54,300 quarterback pricing is so expensive relative to where it's 1255 00:59:54,300 --> 00:59:57,100 been in years past like last year for example, with Jean 1256 00:59:57,100 --> 00:59:59,900 Watson 12 game suspension. I'm like I don't have any 1257 00:59:59,900 --> 01:00:01,100 interest. I don't think it's ceiling. 1258 01:00:01,100 --> 01:00:04,000 Is that high and week 17 relative to all these Other guy, 1259 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,600 so I didn't do any, but not like, for example, run that back 1260 01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:11,100 with quarterback pricing this year, instead of Mahomes in the 1261 01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:14,300 fifth Mahomes goes up pic18, I probably would have taken some 1262 01:00:14,300 --> 01:00:16,600 12 game suspension DeShaun Watson. 1263 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,600 Right? And Kyler's basically, offering 1264 01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:22,500 the same value prop with a good week 17 game that you can set up 1265 01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:25,000 like yeah, skip skip jail and hurts. 1266 01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,900 When you take AJ Brown, then take a running back, then take 1267 01:00:27,900 --> 01:00:30,900 them on to submit then take you under Hopkins and take Kyler and 1268 01:00:30,900 --> 01:00:33,400 like a three quarterback build where you have an early. 1269 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:35,600 Like a for sure. Starter. 1270 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,000 You can also get Rondell late. You can get treatment. 1271 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:40,100 Broadly. You can get hurt slate if you 1272 01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:41,700 prefer. Yeah, but you can take Ernst 1273 01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:43,300 Gerald in the last round. Yeah. 1274 01:00:43,300 --> 01:00:46,800 Like just lots of ways you can get kind of boxed out and then 1275 01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,400 go to a three quarterback build with Kyler i'mi'm, probably done 1276 01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:52,700 it enough but he's hit, you can't chase that up though 1277 01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:54,000 because we do have to be concerned about. 1278 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,200 No no. You cannot like once he gets 1279 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,300 like if he's going ahead of like Jared Goff and Gino I'm out. 1280 01:00:59,300 --> 01:01:01,200 Yeah. Oh yeah he's got to be Dirt 1281 01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:02,700 Cheap. Absolutely yeah. 1282 01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,500 All right, let's go to the next slide here. 1283 01:01:05,700 --> 01:01:08,800 Okay. Game stats the week 17 game 1284 01:01:08,800 --> 01:01:09,600 Stacks. This chart? 1285 01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,100 Always breaks my brain a little bit. 1286 01:01:12,300 --> 01:01:14,100 It's already broken bread. Yeah. 1287 01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:18,300 A bunch of the team cheap team. So here's what we have gaps. 1288 01:01:18,300 --> 01:01:21,800 Like the Carolina, Jacksonville one, we have the cheap team is 1289 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,500 Carolina. Jacksonville's expensive. 1290 01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:32,200 You guys are doing great. So so in this chart, let me 1291 01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:38,400 start at the expensive side, his house that I've done you guys. 1292 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:42,100 I've done. Tyreke waddle, Mark Andrews and 1293 01:01:42,100 --> 01:01:44,700 it's real, it's really fun. It's really fun. 1294 01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:48,400 I know, that's a lot to spend on one game but you can get to a 1295 01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,600 later and he lines up pretty well with those those atp's to 1296 01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:55,200 where you're not, like, having to reach and you've also like 1297 01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,900 locked up. Like basically someone would 1298 01:01:57,900 --> 01:02:00,200 have to take naked to uh if they're going to snipe you on 1299 01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:02,800 him because it's like who out, you can't really back, switch 1300 01:02:02,800 --> 01:02:04,400 back door stack to it too easily. 1301 01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,400 So that one even though it's expensive I actually do enjoy 1302 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,000 that one quarter by. So the way that I would read 1303 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,500 this chart is if you is not necessarily what you just 1304 01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:14,600 described because you're hitting on both in the expensive range. 1305 01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:16,700 But if you're inexpensive rage and you're questioning out, do I 1306 01:02:16,700 --> 01:02:18,300 want to keep taking Buffalo pieces? 1307 01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,800 You can because you can hit the New England pieces later and 1308 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,900 still make that game stack work and you probably pocket. 1309 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,300 A lot of Buffalo pieces later. What's that? 1310 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,800 No, you got your cure and you got Hardy there are. 1311 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:34,100 Yes, there's some flyers. Shirking Harris later on there's 1312 01:02:34,100 --> 01:02:36,100 no maybe Jacksonville Carolina's, a better example. 1313 01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:38,500 But like if you're paying for your study Jacksonville stack 1314 01:02:38,600 --> 01:02:42,100 early you can still hit on your Carolina stack Les try to sort 1315 01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:46,200 of the yes up here. Yeah what do you guys think 1316 01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:50,200 about stacking basically quarterback irrelevant. 1317 01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:54,000 So like just being like all right I got the aforementioned 1318 01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:59,000 Kyler Murray. Jared Goff and Sam Howell but I 1319 01:02:59,000 --> 01:03:02,000 stacked cans. Kansas City, Cincinnati and 1320 01:03:02,000 --> 01:03:06,300 Arizona Philadelphia or Dallas, Detroit, or whatever, without 1321 01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:08,600 the quarterbacks. Like we're like basically the 1322 01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:12,500 basically is a way to bypass paying a huge price tags on the 1323 01:03:12,508 --> 01:03:14,400 quarterbacks because they're so expensive this year. 1324 01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:17,200 So one way I've yeah, I like that. 1325 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:20,200 A lot of wrote an article about that on legendary upside, a 1326 01:03:20,207 --> 01:03:23,000 couple articles that are kind of reinforcing the idea of like 1327 01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:25,500 stack without the quarterback, I think it's pretty important, 1328 01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:29,000 especially We in a field that's you know, 400-plus and best 1329 01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:33,000 bulmania like 600 your good, 600 plus buddy. 1330 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:35,600 No. It's for 41. 1331 01:03:35,900 --> 01:03:39,200 The final. Oh I meant total field sighs. 1332 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:42,500 Yeah okay yeah I mean the week 17 final so you're going to need 1333 01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:44,800 to hit on like a few different things. 1334 01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:50,400 And so okay, let's say you're now betting on like Patrick 1335 01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:54,700 Mahomes to have a huge game. I do think you want to maybe do 1336 01:03:54,700 --> 01:03:57,800 that while you also have a pretty strong quarterback 1337 01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:01,800 yourself. But I think Richardson fits that 1338 01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,100 like, you could potentially go get like Anthony Richardson and 1339 01:04:05,100 --> 01:04:06,900 then stack up one of these big games. 1340 01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,700 I've also done stuff where I have an allen or I have a Hertz 1341 01:04:10,700 --> 01:04:16,200 or Mahomes I like aggressively Target the chargers, guys, and 1342 01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:19,200 I'm like the chart, like Justin Herbert's not going to hurt me 1343 01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,600 because I have an elite quarterback, and I'm trying to 1344 01:04:21,607 --> 01:04:24,100 scoop up these Chargers severs. Get some Denver guys on the 1345 01:04:24,100 --> 01:04:26,000 other side, it helps that I really like Marvin Mims at his 1346 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:28,800 ATP so I can like stack up that game. 1347 01:04:28,900 --> 01:04:31,800 Mmmmm. But then also have a big stack 1348 01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:35,800 of an elite quarterback game and my bet becomes, like, Herbert 1349 01:04:35,800 --> 01:04:38,400 might even outscore my quarterback but not by a lot. 1350 01:04:38,500 --> 01:04:42,000 Now, I've got by 5 point off. Yes, exactly. 1351 01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,800 And I've but I've got, I've got a stack that's hitting and then 1352 01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:46,900 I've got another stack that's hitting and that's how I get to 1353 01:04:46,908 --> 01:04:50,600 the top. Yeah, yeah, I do, I do, I mean, 1354 01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:54,300 I like this strategy like, in DFS like when there's, you know, 1355 01:04:54,300 --> 01:04:56,600 a five thousand dollar punt quarterback and then doing 1356 01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:01,700 Kansas City Los Angeles or The thing I want to throw on this 1357 01:05:01,700 --> 01:05:05,100 chart, the the ATP change line is probably the main point here, 1358 01:05:05,100 --> 01:05:08,100 and it's showing how much more expensive or cheaper. 1359 01:05:08,100 --> 01:05:09,800 The stacks are becoming the negative numbers. 1360 01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:13,700 There's this really helpful little pink quote box here that 1361 01:05:13,700 --> 01:05:15,600 I read, which was the instruction manual. 1362 01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:21,300 So Atlanta Chicago has gotten the cheapest -1.1 average ATP 1363 01:05:21,300 --> 01:05:23,800 for those pieces. Arizona, Philly also getting 1364 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:27,700 cheaper - .9 about a pick on average, you have Tennessee. 1365 01:05:27,700 --> 01:05:30,400 Houston is the cheapest stack getting more expensive. 1366 01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:33,300 So people are like hey is really chatty that game that game by 1367 01:05:33,300 --> 01:05:35,100 the way. Like if I was just ranking games 1368 01:05:35,100 --> 01:05:37,800 that would probably be like one of the best games that seems 1369 01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:38,500 fun. Yeah. 1370 01:05:38,500 --> 01:05:40,800 Yeah, why not? It's that's you take you take a 1371 01:05:40,808 --> 01:05:43,700 little Derrick, Henry, you take a little chigga a little John, 1372 01:05:43,700 --> 01:05:46,600 mechi a little. Well, it's a beautiful think of 1373 01:05:46,600 --> 01:05:50,200 Brussels, Eric a bergson you do. I don't think you really want 1374 01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,700 Henry and Burkes, right. So if you have pierced you want 1375 01:05:52,700 --> 01:05:54,800 beers but I don't think I don't think you want Henry and Burkes 1376 01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:56,100 together. I want to throw like a 1377 01:05:56,100 --> 01:05:58,700 Singletary in on that like I think he got thrown single 1378 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,100 Tyrion. Yeah. 1379 01:06:01,100 --> 01:06:03,300 That's funny. Yeah I like Stroud is kind of a 1380 01:06:03,308 --> 01:06:07,100 backdoor stack type of guy. Yeah I don't I don't love 1381 01:06:07,100 --> 01:06:10,600 Stratus Prospect but he's priced pretty nicely. 1382 01:06:11,400 --> 01:06:15,400 I think probably Pierce being hurt or missing that game for 1383 01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:18,800 one reason or another would make the game more fun as why I was 1384 01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:20,200 thinking Singletary. Just to clarify. 1385 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,500 Don't take, I mean, I like Pierce's of pictu but I if he's 1386 01:06:23,500 --> 01:06:26,300 healthy, he might be getting 25. Carries that games, Less Fun. 1387 01:06:27,400 --> 01:06:30,600 Yeah, yeah. It Derrick Henry gets 33 carries 1388 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:33,600 Damien Pierce gets 25, the game's over and 110 minutes. 1389 01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,700 You know, that's that's not that's not what we're hoping 1390 01:06:36,700 --> 01:06:37,900 for. That's not the scenario. 1391 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:42,900 Rams Giants is another one that I like because you can go like, 1392 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:44,700 you don't even need to set that up. 1393 01:06:44,700 --> 01:06:48,500 That early, you can go get like wall organ in the seven could go 1394 01:06:48,500 --> 01:06:53,100 and you could go Stafford Hyatt to, to van or higbee or 1395 01:06:53,100 --> 01:06:54,900 whatever. He'd be in Van. 1396 01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:57,000 Yeah, you honestly can. Yeah. 1397 01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:00,400 Yeah, and you get all the Giants receivers late to. 1398 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:04,800 So like I mean, Paris Campbell, I don't take a ton by took him 1399 01:07:04,800 --> 01:07:06,600 recently. I was like they did give him a 1400 01:07:06,607 --> 01:07:10,000 lot of money actually, so maybe he may be actually has a role 1401 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:15,200 but those guys are, it's so ambiguous that I'm like, if I 1402 01:07:15,200 --> 01:07:19,600 have Daniel Jones and Waller, is it bad to just be like I'm gonna 1403 01:07:20,300 --> 01:07:22,900 today I'm going to go Hodgins and Campbell or did I am going 1404 01:07:22,900 --> 01:07:24,200 to go? No, I know. 1405 01:07:24,200 --> 01:07:27,000 Why would ya know? I think that's 100%. 1406 01:07:27,500 --> 01:07:29,100 I want to ask you guys a question because you're drafting 1407 01:07:29,100 --> 01:07:33,900 more than me for Detroit Dallas. Their team atp's are really 1408 01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:36,600 close on this. Do you guys find is that just 1409 01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,000 because it's an average and the ATP ranges are different for 1410 01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:42,500 each team or do you find it difficult to stack that game 1411 01:07:42,500 --> 01:07:44,700 because there's too many players in the same draft fringes? 1412 01:07:44,900 --> 01:07:47,000 I find it difficult to stack that game, okay? 1413 01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,500 That might be a way to interpret this. 1414 01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:51,800 There are no good late players from Detroit is the big issue. 1415 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,300 So you have to set it up with a modern house and brown and 1416 01:07:55,308 --> 01:07:59,200 Gibbs, and that's it pretty. Much and then you also got to do 1417 01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,300 the lamb. You can do lamina up top. 1418 01:08:01,300 --> 01:08:04,600 Yeah sure. And then and then I mean Dallas 1419 01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:11,100 they have, you know, gal wide receiver 66 and then Ferguson 1420 01:08:11,100 --> 01:08:14,700 Ferguson is actually probably I bet if I look right now I bet 1421 01:08:14,700 --> 01:08:16,800 Ferguson's my most drafted tight end you. 1422 01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:18,600 I mean it's not a surprise to me. 1423 01:08:18,600 --> 01:08:21,100 You love the jar with a couple of years ago. 1424 01:08:21,100 --> 01:08:23,000 I feel like you're always being literally. 1425 01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:25,800 So dude, he literally is just all in Schultz and Blake Darwin, 1426 01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:28,899 like there's no difference between I mean like these, like 1427 01:08:28,899 --> 01:08:30,300 Pete. Like you want to go back in time 1428 01:08:30,300 --> 01:08:33,600 and like act like either those guys were prospects. 1429 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:36,899 Now, taste them is by most drafted, but Ferguson the 1430 01:08:36,899 --> 01:08:39,800 furnace, is it should be as it should Ferguson's getting dull. 1431 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:44,000 Stitches. My number two, oh wow, you're 1432 01:08:44,000 --> 01:08:46,100 just gonna keep eating it on the Denver tight end, huh? 1433 01:08:46,100 --> 01:08:49,399 Every well, it breaks that it's that Ross is Russ's. 1434 01:08:49,399 --> 01:08:51,500 I think they're really good pick. 1435 01:08:51,500 --> 01:08:55,500 Such as Dallas as Dallas and Denver, you got these two teams, 1436 01:08:55,500 --> 01:08:57,899 you just love taking the Titans from So what would you say? 1437 01:08:57,899 --> 01:08:59,800 Russ is a really good pick right now II. 1438 01:08:59,800 --> 01:09:02,700 Think it looks like obviously if he could just flame out and be 1439 01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:04,899 awful. But I think if you're getting it 1440 01:09:04,899 --> 01:09:06,700 in that range of the draft and you're like, all right. 1441 01:09:06,700 --> 01:09:11,500 Well if like try and tell yourself a story about how these 1442 01:09:11,500 --> 01:09:14,600 guys become like top scores at quarterback, you know, and I'd 1443 01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,200 you just can't. You cannot tell yourself a story 1444 01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:22,200 about Russ 1zz, he's insane. And that makes a wide range of 1445 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,800 outcomes. Maybe just bounces back. 1446 01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:26,500 Like we don't know what he is from an actual like off the 1447 01:09:26,500 --> 01:09:29,000 field. Like He's maybe a sociopath. 1448 01:09:29,300 --> 01:09:31,700 Yeah. He's, he seems really seems 1449 01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:34,800 really ground. It's green. 1450 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:38,000 That was like, your funniest moments on this show are never 1451 01:09:38,000 --> 01:09:41,300 like big huge moments. Like when Pete is like doing a 1452 01:09:41,300 --> 01:09:44,200 bit. It's always just like, very, 1453 01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:47,000 very subtle. That was what I was an all-time 1454 01:09:47,200 --> 01:09:49,899 ship chasing moment but like, yeah, he goes around. 1455 01:09:50,100 --> 01:09:53,000 Derek Carr, Jordan love, Bryce young, Matt Stafford. 1456 01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,700 Like 0 top 12 seasons in the range of outcomes for those 1457 01:09:56,700 --> 01:10:00,200 guys. I think but if Russ like the 1458 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:04,200 thing that I keep coming back to is that Drew Brees was done, 1459 01:10:04,500 --> 01:10:08,200 Drew Brees had a peashooter couldn't move in the pocket, 1460 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:12,700 couldn't just could not do shit, and he just kept turning out, 45 1461 01:10:12,700 --> 01:10:15,700 hundred yard seasons with Sean Payton as head coach. 1462 01:10:15,700 --> 01:10:19,600 So I to me, I don't even care about the physical decline, 1463 01:10:19,700 --> 01:10:25,200 which seems rapid for Russell Wilson, but if he can just buy 1464 01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:28,800 in and maybe he won't write because As Korean said like he 1465 01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:32,900 just can't buy it because he's too you know, egomaniacal or 1466 01:10:32,900 --> 01:10:35,700 whatever. But if he does by in there are a 1467 01:10:35,708 --> 01:10:38,300 lot of talented players on that offense like a lot of like 1468 01:10:38,300 --> 01:10:40,700 there's a lot of guys who can make that engine go. 1469 01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:43,700 It's so to acknowledge uncertainty with Russ. 1470 01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,800 I mean, we have no idea what week last year. 1471 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,800 It was massively different than expectations, right? 1472 01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:51,500 Like so why couldn't this year be? 1473 01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:54,500 That's probably, that's probably my fake notes expensive. 1474 01:10:54,500 --> 01:10:56,900 That's probably my favorite game for many staff. 1475 01:10:57,100 --> 01:10:59,400 Tax and just trying to stack it up without the quarterbacks 1476 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:04,600 because I don't know what is going to happen with Russ, but 1477 01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:08,800 to your point about, you know, Peyton being able to get stuff 1478 01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:11,400 out of Breeze, I think you could get plenty out of Stidham. 1479 01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:14,300 And if it's Tim at the end of the year, like I'm not actually 1480 01:11:14,300 --> 01:11:16,200 that worried about the offer yet, right? 1481 01:11:16,200 --> 01:11:21,400 Putting up points so it's like okay, like if I have a couple 1482 01:11:21,400 --> 01:11:25,200 other quarterbacks, yeah, I would prefer to have had Russ if 1483 01:11:25,200 --> 01:11:26,800 he ends up having a great year for sure. 1484 01:11:27,200 --> 01:11:29,100 You know what, I think he is priced, at a point where he does 1485 01:11:29,100 --> 01:11:31,300 make sense, I've taken him to I'm not like feeding Russ 1486 01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:35,300 necessarily, but I still just kind of just like, really like 1487 01:11:35,300 --> 01:11:38,000 that game as I'm going to get pieces of this game and see how 1488 01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:40,300 it plays out. If Russ false me to Value cool, 1489 01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,200 you had a lot of rust last year, right? 1490 01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:45,100 I'm just glad that we got this. I'm remembering you being really 1491 01:11:45,100 --> 01:11:47,300 in on Denver last year. You were saying a few different. 1492 01:11:47,300 --> 01:11:49,300 I was way you mean. Are you even good at basketball? 1493 01:11:49,300 --> 01:11:51,400 Like how was your winrate? I was pretty big. 1494 01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,000 You were like all over Denver like, it seems like you might 1495 01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,900 have a fucking sweaty, all the sweaty. 1496 01:11:57,000 --> 01:12:02,200 Nerds were all over Denver. Yeah, hey wait the terribly. 1497 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:04,900 But you won this bet. It's my we mix up our exposures 1498 01:12:04,900 --> 01:12:07,800 because you also got to make sure to stack up Tom, Brady, and 1499 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:11,000 his final season when it all falls, when it all falls apart, 1500 01:12:11,300 --> 01:12:13,500 because he might have one good game at the very room. 1501 01:12:13,500 --> 01:12:17,900 I might have one, but then not even use my Gavin's, like 37 1502 01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:20,300 ball or whatever. Oh, you can't draft Mike Evans, 1503 01:12:20,400 --> 01:12:23,000 you cannot go look. I did, you know how many times 1504 01:12:23,000 --> 01:12:25,500 I'd like double-checked that he was taking ahead of my pick in 1505 01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:28,500 the second round because I I didn't take one that's him. 1506 01:12:28,900 --> 01:12:31,900 That's all right, what else? What else to cover? 1507 01:12:31,900 --> 01:12:32,900 Yeah. I need any other Stacks. 1508 01:12:32,900 --> 01:12:35,000 Let's move to the next one. I don't I mean unless you guys 1509 01:12:35,000 --> 01:12:37,700 got anything but no, I got nothing. 1510 01:12:37,700 --> 01:12:40,400 We got a lot out of that slide for how much we understood it. 1511 01:12:40,900 --> 01:12:43,100 Now we got another one. Figure out. 1512 01:12:44,100 --> 01:12:47,300 Well, this is bullshit. Maybe I don't understand. 1513 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:50,800 Oh yeah, what we figured out is when I answered this real 1514 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:53,900 quickly about, I do think Judy's a little bit steamed up. 1515 01:12:54,000 --> 01:12:56,400 I think Sutton is somewhat overvalued or undervalued. 1516 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,000 I think he's like, Acceptable to me, a big thing is, like, you 1517 01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,200 can go get the also, sometimes, he'll fall really late and then 1518 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,600 Marvin memes is like, super easy. 1519 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:05,800 So I know this probably in a on, I think it's pretty interesting. 1520 01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:08,300 If you're building a light at running back, which I often am, 1521 01:13:08,700 --> 01:13:10,000 who's it gonna be? The first? 1522 01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,900 Who is going to be the first out to be brave enough to try and 1523 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:18,300 make KJ Handler happen again. It's not about it. 1524 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,200 It's pollen. So on John. 1525 01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:24,200 Yeah, the thing that I would say about that question as well. 1526 01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,200 Real quick is both Sutton and Judy of had trade rumors. 1527 01:13:26,200 --> 01:13:28,700 It would not be As far as if one of them still got moved this 1528 01:13:28,700 --> 01:13:30,200 offseason. I don't think with the with the 1529 01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,600 Mims pick and that's where you can start making the hammer case 1530 01:13:32,600 --> 01:13:34,900 to but like dulcich Mims and stuff. 1531 01:13:34,900 --> 01:13:37,400 And if it's like just Judy, let's say sudden got moved, 1532 01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:40,500 maybe it's not going to happen but they have a lot of depth of 1533 01:13:40,508 --> 01:13:42,400 receiver wouldn't be that surprising to me. 1534 01:13:43,300 --> 01:13:45,300 This in short though, goes really well with the last chart 1535 01:13:45,300 --> 01:13:47,600 answers, my question about Detroit, Dallas, in terms of 1536 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,800 what ranges the court, it's the average of the double stack but 1537 01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:52,500 then what ranges, the quarterback on the tube top 1538 01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:56,500 passing names go so you can see how to stack those teams. 1539 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,900 And Detroit. Dallas her You got you mentioned 1540 01:14:01,900 --> 01:14:04,200 that almond, raw and CD go early? 1541 01:14:04,200 --> 01:14:06,600 So you see the wide receiver? One is early for both teams and 1542 01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,100 then the key being the wide receiver to both go sort of in 1543 01:14:09,100 --> 01:14:11,800 the same range, probably hard to get all different pieces in 1544 01:14:12,100 --> 01:14:15,100 those spots. Some, some teams are just like 1545 01:14:15,100 --> 01:14:18,900 really hard like it. I just find myself not stacking 1546 01:14:18,900 --> 01:14:22,800 them just because it's the ranges are just so bizarre and 1547 01:14:22,800 --> 01:14:24,700 someone else always wants it more than I do. 1548 01:14:26,300 --> 01:14:30,300 Yeah, one one that I like is that San Francisco? 1549 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,800 Commanders game. I do that one a lot and you 1550 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:35,800 don't need the quarterbacks there. 1551 01:14:35,800 --> 01:14:37,900 I mention this on the show before, but it is just one that 1552 01:14:37,900 --> 01:14:40,900 I kind of come back to and you can play it any number of ways. 1553 01:14:40,900 --> 01:14:44,300 Like I've done it with McCaffrey and then McLaren and you're 1554 01:14:44,300 --> 01:14:48,300 like, you know, the 49ers are just going to beat the crap out 1555 01:14:48,300 --> 01:14:50,100 of the commanders and they're just going to throw a ton. 1556 01:14:50,400 --> 01:14:53,000 I think that's like a very very light. 1557 01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,800 I find myself. I find myself taking howl and 1558 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,300 pretty or just like these cheap quarterbacks a lot just like I 1559 01:14:59,300 --> 01:15:02,700 get Kerfuffled in the middle of a draft and I'm like I got to 1560 01:15:02,708 --> 01:15:07,300 figure out a back stack, right? So I gotta take, you know, so I 1561 01:15:07,300 --> 01:15:14,900 take dots in and around 8:00 and then I take howl or I mean the 1562 01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:18,100 big bailout when I do is Jacoby Meyers and Jimmy Garoppolo, 1563 01:15:18,100 --> 01:15:22,000 which is like, that's the that's like my real fails and then if 1564 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:25,000 you're if you're truly stuck and you just have to do it to make 1565 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,200 yourself feel better, you can take Matt Jones around 1700 1566 01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:31,400 Henry and round 18. That's Also Thornton Thornton 1567 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:33,200 and Mac Jones. Sure sure. 1568 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:35,300 I mean that is like, that's just you're just doing it. 1569 01:15:35,300 --> 01:15:37,800 So if you screenshot the team, no one makes fun of you first 1570 01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,200 like an unsexy. It's so it's so you don't get 1571 01:15:40,200 --> 01:15:42,500 yelled at you know the team's dad. 1572 01:15:42,500 --> 01:15:44,700 You just don't want to get yelled at right. 1573 01:15:44,900 --> 01:15:46,800 Well like I said like I planned it all out. 1574 01:15:52,700 --> 01:15:55,400 It's true. That's why Pat thanks DJ more is 1575 01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:56,800 not bad. I figured that out like 10 1576 01:15:56,800 --> 01:15:59,100 minutes after we got off DJ more but he was on the news on the 1577 01:15:59,108 --> 01:16:02,600 million dollar team last year. God damn it. 1578 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:05,300 Stop figure out my bias. Okay. 1579 01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:15,000 Why why would the Raiders not be the best team to stack? 1580 01:16:15,000 --> 01:16:19,800 I think the Raiders combination of high-end guy, Adams, and 1581 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:24,700 Jacobs, multiple cheap pieces that you can sell yourself on 1582 01:16:24,700 --> 01:16:27,300 whether it be Meyer, Weatherby, Renfro. 1583 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:31,200 I mean Renfro is like free yet. Thousand yards and six 1584 01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:34,600 touchdowns like 18 months ago and he's just dead, right? 1585 01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,700 Because I guess because the assumption is, you can't play 1586 01:16:37,700 --> 01:16:40,400 three slot wide receivers all right time, but they wouldn't 1587 01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:42,900 sign to slaughter, the best slot receiver on the market. 1588 01:16:42,900 --> 01:16:44,400 Why. That's yeah, I don't know. 1589 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:47,000 It doesn't make any sense but then, and then garoppolo's free 1590 01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:51,200 to, and they're in an iterative fucking Dome and week 17 against 1591 01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:54,800 the Colts. Like it's I do, I just I'm 1592 01:16:54,800 --> 01:16:58,500 taking Raiders and Colts players a lot in these drafts. 1593 01:16:59,100 --> 01:17:03,200 So One thing it's not really priced into Myers and run 40 and 1594 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,000 maybe it shouldn't be priced in much. 1595 01:17:05,100 --> 01:17:09,300 But is there any chance that Adams does force his way off the 1596 01:17:09,300 --> 01:17:10,700 team? I mean, he's already kind of 1597 01:17:10,700 --> 01:17:13,200 modeling wheezes. He's literally, he's literally 1598 01:17:13,200 --> 01:17:15,000 already. Like, I fucking hate it here. 1599 01:17:15,000 --> 01:17:19,800 Like I came here to there, too. Yeah, I mean Myers and run 1600 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:21,900 throat. Like are my crazy. 1601 01:17:21,900 --> 01:17:24,500 Perfect receivers with Jimmy Garoppolo. 1602 01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:29,400 It's not a 4.5, you know, it would kind of be perfect. 1603 01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,600 And what Maybe it will transform. 1604 01:17:31,600 --> 01:17:34,400 No, I don't think the Jets can go get him for Rogers. 1605 01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,400 I don't even think the Saints can go get him for car and who 1606 01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,100 else is like going out of their way to get out. 1607 01:17:39,100 --> 01:17:42,000 Um, is that a really steep price right now mon someone always 1608 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,500 will. You see my dad? 1609 01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:46,700 Is someone, someone will figure it out if he really wants to do 1610 01:17:46,700 --> 01:17:48,200 it. Yeah. 1611 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:50,400 You'd rather on the atoms then Hopkins, you know. 1612 01:17:50,600 --> 01:17:53,500 So I don't know. I mean to the Chiefs that she's 1613 01:17:53,500 --> 01:17:55,600 getting something pretty in division. 1614 01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,400 I don't think the Raiders are sending him to the cheese. 1615 01:17:57,700 --> 01:18:00,100 It was just, no, you don't. We don't, we don't give 1616 01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:02,300 Thirty-year-old players that much money. 1617 01:18:02,300 --> 01:18:05,800 We Tyree kill had like a bajillion yards and a million 1618 01:18:05,800 --> 01:18:08,700 touchdowns and they said your 28, dude. 1619 01:18:09,900 --> 01:18:13,400 Out of here, kick rocks. I mean, maybe some like the 1620 01:18:13,400 --> 01:18:15,700 Giants or something, but it's Adams going to be happy with the 1621 01:18:15,700 --> 01:18:17,100 Giants if he's not happy with the Raiders. 1622 01:18:17,100 --> 01:18:20,300 Like it's just no probably. Although I mean, he could earn a 1623 01:18:20,300 --> 01:18:22,700 ton of Target, he'd be kind of perfect with Daniel Jones. 1624 01:18:22,900 --> 01:18:26,400 Yeah, that would be a good one. Actually did coach and make that 1625 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:27,700 mean, maybe some like that could work. 1626 01:18:27,700 --> 01:18:40,600 But Yeah, I don't know if I don't, I'm Young quarterback, as 1627 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:51,600 number one. I mean it feels like the thing 1628 01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:54,300 is any team that would make that move for Adams, doesn't it? 1629 01:18:54,300 --> 01:18:56,500 Feel like they would just acquire Hopkins for cheaper. 1630 01:18:58,900 --> 01:19:01,900 I mean I keep work cheaper in terms of pick compensation and 1631 01:19:01,900 --> 01:19:03,700 its contract is smaller and shorter. 1632 01:19:04,500 --> 01:19:06,500 If I had Bryce young and I'm like I want to make sure this 1633 01:19:06,500 --> 01:19:12,800 guy succeeds I'm going after Adams I think he's perfect for a 1634 01:19:12,808 --> 01:19:16,500 Young quarterback. Yeah I don't know if I agree 1635 01:19:16,500 --> 01:19:19,000 with that or not. He gets okay you just gets open. 1636 01:19:19,000 --> 01:19:21,000 No, no. But I just saying, in terms of, 1637 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,400 like, the compensation between those two players is really 1638 01:19:23,400 --> 01:19:26,000 different. Yeah. 1639 01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,000 Maybe you're right. I don't, I guess. 1640 01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,400 Are you giving up like a? But I guess if you're it's so I 1641 01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:33,100 guess if you're the Panthers, just like having a superstar 1642 01:19:33,100 --> 01:19:35,500 like Davante Adams, who was certainly more famous and a 1643 01:19:35,500 --> 01:19:40,900 bigger get then Hopkins is like that probably swings on it too. 1644 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,300 Yeah. But I don't know, I mean I've 1645 01:19:45,300 --> 01:19:50,700 taken some Jacoby Myers who is also my team last year so maybe 1646 01:19:50,700 --> 01:19:54,500 it's just part of that bias but you playing the hits crazy. 1647 01:20:02,700 --> 01:20:05,400 You just gotta do it. Like all right, I got 1648 01:20:36,300 --> 01:20:40,000 Unk all offseason right after he retired. 1649 01:20:40,100 --> 01:20:42,100 Right up until the point, even when like, you know, he's do. 1650 01:20:42,100 --> 01:20:45,100 He weighs like 220 pounds, he's doing the WWE. 1651 01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:48,000 People are still taking Gronk, but people are not taking Brady 1652 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,500 right now. Well, he is in ownership 1653 01:20:52,100 --> 01:20:54,500 discussions rather than player discussion. 1654 01:20:54,500 --> 01:20:57,100 So I don't think I'm ready, already retired I don't fucking 1655 01:20:57,100 --> 01:21:01,100 by it dude. Tom Brady Tom Brady is Mentally 1656 01:21:01,100 --> 01:21:03,800 unwell person. He's gonna wait to see what 1657 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:06,300 teams going to the playoffs and come back in November. 1658 01:21:06,300 --> 01:21:08,200 I'm not able to have any evidence of that. 1659 01:21:08,700 --> 01:21:11,600 I'm not ruling I'm not ruling shit out when it comes to Tom 1660 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:14,200 Brady honestly. Could he play for the Raiders? 1661 01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:16,300 If he was an owner? Is that is that like a thing? 1662 01:21:17,800 --> 01:21:19,700 It's a go. I mean I don't think I've Bridge 1663 01:21:19,700 --> 01:21:21,700 has been crossed. I don't think any owners of 1664 01:21:21,700 --> 01:21:24,300 beauty to try to play they. You think that play for your own 1665 01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:26,800 team, right? They used to have player coaches 1666 01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:29,800 back in the day. Like way back when he bought the 1667 01:21:29,808 --> 01:21:31,700 Bobcats. It wasn't like hey he might come 1668 01:21:31,700 --> 01:21:33,400 play for the Bobcats and yeah right. 1669 01:21:33,400 --> 01:21:36,600 You could do that. I mean George, George Halas. 1670 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:41,200 The Bears guy was was Maybe the owner but definitely was a coach 1671 01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:42,500 and a player dude. No. 1672 01:21:43,700 --> 01:21:47,500 There's never been anyone more cocked in the history of the 1673 01:21:47,500 --> 01:21:53,600 world. Then if Jimmy G comes back and 1674 01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:57,100 buys the tie and part of the team sighs hard, 1675 01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:15,400 that would be I hope in my room for that to happen. 1676 01:22:15,400 --> 01:22:17,300 It's just too good a happens. No. 1677 01:22:17,400 --> 01:22:19,800 Yeah. All right. 1678 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,700 Slide when we got yeah, what do we got? 1679 01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,400 Average. ATP of top five players by team. 1680 01:22:26,900 --> 01:22:29,500 So, the Jets are getting a little cheaper and then there's 1681 01:22:29,500 --> 01:22:31,400 another slide with the rest of the team's, okay? 1682 01:22:32,500 --> 01:22:37,200 So this is the top half. So this, yes, I guess I guess 1683 01:22:37,200 --> 01:22:41,500 the weird to the weird thing about the Jets is because they 1684 01:22:41,500 --> 01:22:44,800 cut themselves by just doing whatever, Aaron Rodgers wanted. 1685 01:22:44,900 --> 01:22:47,700 No one actually wants to draft any of their other players, 1686 01:22:47,700 --> 01:22:49,900 other than Garrett Wilson and briefs also, it's like you're 1687 01:22:49,900 --> 01:22:52,300 like, oh great. I got the double stack with 1688 01:22:52,300 --> 01:22:55,100 Allen Lazard, you know, and Conklin's free. 1689 01:22:55,900 --> 01:22:58,000 It's like it's that the Jets a good pic. 1690 01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:00,500 I think Conklin. I mean, he's probably a fine 1691 01:23:00,500 --> 01:23:02,500 pick. Although, you know, I mean, if 1692 01:23:02,500 --> 01:23:06,800 he is not willing to go on like, A wild mushroom hunt with Aaron 1693 01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:12,100 Rodgers in you know, Upstate New York then to be conquered seems 1694 01:23:12,100 --> 01:23:15,200 like the kind of guy that would be I mean we have long hair, 1695 01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:19,000 he's got the test like I said this last week. 1696 01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,100 I mean he's he's pretty strong odds to be down, he's down. 1697 01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:38,700 Think about like what is one of Mercedes Lewis and Aaron Rodgers 1698 01:23:38,700 --> 01:23:41,300 talked about over the years? Like what is their common 1699 01:23:41,300 --> 01:23:43,400 experience? And I realized they're both 1700 01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,700 fucking old. Like everyone talks about how 1701 01:23:45,700 --> 01:23:49,000 old Mercedes Lewis is not realizing that Aaron Rodgers is 1702 01:23:49,000 --> 01:23:53,400 also 39 years old, they're both they're both just old guys so 1703 01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:57,200 that's why that's why marcedes Lewis gets to stay in the Inner 1704 01:23:57,200 --> 01:23:59,700 Circle. There's not a single image that 1705 01:23:59,700 --> 01:24:02,400 I can find a Tyler Conklin. That makes me think he wouldn't 1706 01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:03,600 have a good time with Aaron Rodgers. 1707 01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:06,700 Oh yeah, not One has come up in one of his official Jets 1708 01:24:06,700 --> 01:24:08,500 pictures. He's got his man bun. 1709 01:24:08,700 --> 01:24:11,100 Done up on the top of his head. I mean, this this guy. 1710 01:24:11,500 --> 01:24:14,900 I mean, I don't know that he knows how to party, he knows, 1711 01:24:14,900 --> 01:24:18,100 yeah, he's he's also watch some YouTube videos in his life. 1712 01:24:18,100 --> 01:24:20,500 I'm willing to make that bet. Okay. 1713 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:24,200 All right so Conklin is a good pick what about? 1714 01:24:25,900 --> 01:24:30,200 So this is the cheaper teams. We got the the the commanders 1715 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:32,500 and Rams are getting a little bit more expensive. 1716 01:24:32,500 --> 01:24:35,100 The Cardinals continue to fall a little It. 1717 01:24:35,200 --> 01:24:38,600 That's the that's the van Jefferson Fallout from the e TR 1718 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:42,500 stuff I bet. What's talked me into why I 1719 01:24:42,500 --> 01:24:44,600 should care about van Jefferson? You shouldn't? 1720 01:24:44,600 --> 01:24:48,000 Because technical you into that been, but I'll try to talk to 1721 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:53,100 people and to it which is that he has, really no chance of like 1722 01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:58,000 not running routes because that you've got cup and then nobody 1723 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,800 this is, this is pooping sclerotic is gonna run right 1724 01:25:00,800 --> 01:25:02,600 now. I'm taking been sporadic over 1725 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,300 van Jefferson 10 out of 10 times. 1726 01:25:04,300 --> 01:25:07,000 I would know, I know the guys are both wrong. 1727 01:25:07,100 --> 01:25:09,500 You guys are both wrong. It's fucking 22 at. 1728 01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:13,100 Well, it just Still okay? To, to out, well, can have a 1729 01:25:13,100 --> 01:25:15,700 role certainly and I've taken a lot of 22 out, well, because 1730 01:25:15,700 --> 01:25:18,600 he's completely free, and I think he's probably pretty good, 1731 01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:22,700 but he's like, 155 pounds. As we sit here today, he'll gain 1732 01:25:22,700 --> 01:25:24,300 probably 10 pounds in, August it did. 1733 01:25:24,300 --> 01:25:26,900 Look, he's like 24 25. Now it becomes a little bit 1734 01:25:26,900 --> 01:25:28,700 easier to put on the weight as you age. 1735 01:25:28,700 --> 01:25:31,900 So what extra he might be up to might be up to like 170. 1736 01:25:31,900 --> 01:25:37,400 Now, I hope that you had a 10% to his body. 1737 01:25:37,400 --> 01:25:40,000 Mast. I mean, if he's 170 pounds, he 1738 01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:42,800 could have went in the First round of the 2023 NFL Draft. 1739 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:46,400 So but he's a slot, right? He's a pure slot, and you got 1740 01:25:46,400 --> 01:25:48,100 cup there. Like, It's just tough for him. 1741 01:25:48,300 --> 01:25:49,700 It's tough. For him to get that many routes 1742 01:25:49,700 --> 01:25:51,100 man. Jeffersons, and he can play 1743 01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:54,400 outside, he can play inside and they need bodies. 1744 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:56,800 And look, they drafted him in the second round of they've 1745 01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:59,000 played him consistently the entire time he's been there. 1746 01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:01,900 I don't think he's getting back. They need bodies has never gone 1747 01:26:01,900 --> 01:26:04,700 bad at wide receiver. It's not a position where Talent 1748 01:26:04,700 --> 01:26:06,800 matters or anything. Well, what's the price? 1749 01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,700 You know, and he's going in like the 15th round or whatever. 1750 01:26:09,700 --> 01:26:12,700 So at that At that price. I actually think drafting in 1751 01:26:12,700 --> 01:26:15,700 May, this guy's definitely gonna have a role and plays wide 1752 01:26:15,700 --> 01:26:18,500 receivers pretty decent. But why would Ben skowronek be 1753 01:26:18,500 --> 01:26:20,500 worse? Because he, well, he's never 1754 01:26:20,500 --> 01:26:24,300 really played him in Rana cruel. Skowronek has only ever played 1755 01:26:24,300 --> 01:26:29,400 out of sheer. Desperation, Is that true? 1756 01:26:29,800 --> 01:26:36,000 Yes, fact check that. He's only ever played. 1757 01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:38,800 Like they weren't do. They were running out like Alan. 1758 01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:43,100 Robinson's corpse who couldn't generate separation from like 1759 01:26:43,100 --> 01:26:46,000 Andy Reid over Ben's qur'anic but they were playing van 1760 01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:48,000 Jefferson. Yeah, maybe that's wrong. 1761 01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:49,400 It does suck. Yeah. 1762 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:53,100 Vin Jefferson was playing when they had Odell Beckham that was 1763 01:26:53,100 --> 01:26:55,800 the three wide receiver set. You know, he was playing all 1764 01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,500 last year, he's just going to be a part of the three. 1765 01:26:58,700 --> 01:27:00,000 Receiver set. I mean, again, they spent a 1766 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:03,100 second round pick on him and he's never been horrible. 1767 01:27:03,200 --> 01:27:06,100 He's not good, but he's never been like, oh my god, get this 1768 01:27:06,100 --> 01:27:08,700 guy off the field, right, correct? 1769 01:27:08,700 --> 01:27:12,700 I just looked up skowronek and like different little, look up 1770 01:27:12,700 --> 01:27:14,300 things and he I mean he kind of sucks. 1771 01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:18,100 Yeah, he's not good. He's like, and he's like a total 1772 01:27:18,100 --> 01:27:20,700 non Prospect. Yeah. 1773 01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,600 How do you like it was vaguely? Interesting. 1774 01:27:23,600 --> 01:27:26,900 But now he's not good. I would save in Jefferson career 1775 01:27:26,900 --> 01:27:31,300 yards per hour on a 1.31, he peaked as a rookie at one point, 1776 01:27:31,300 --> 01:27:34,300 four six, he's declined every year since he does strike me as, 1777 01:27:34,300 --> 01:27:37,800 like, one of those guys were great pic when he was like, 1778 01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:42,700 basically free, as he moves up here and every, every round more 1779 01:27:42,700 --> 01:27:46,000 expensive, he gets, it's worse. He, it's worse because, like, 1780 01:27:46,500 --> 01:27:49,300 his odds of, like, hitting those Spike weeks of the end of the 1781 01:27:49,308 --> 01:27:53,000 year, aren't Great. And if you need him for the 1782 01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:55,800 course, the entire season, like if he gets into like the 13th 1783 01:27:55,800 --> 01:28:02,200 round range, then I don't love the bat, but we are at risk of 1784 01:28:02,200 --> 01:28:06,300 hitting dead roster spots at this time of the year and you 1785 01:28:06,300 --> 01:28:09,900 know, as a later round pick I think he is at least gonna get 1786 01:28:09,900 --> 01:28:13,200 run. I will say on on his efficiency 1787 01:28:13,300 --> 01:28:16,200 this is one of the numbers I hit up just just for the people that 1788 01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,300 I'm not just being a hater is a little bit of a reason he had 1789 01:28:19,300 --> 01:28:21,300 three catch. I think it was last year at 1790 01:28:21,300 --> 01:28:26,900 least two of 65 plus yards. There's only five guys in the 1791 01:28:26,900 --> 01:28:29,400 NFL that did that you can hit on those and that would be great. 1792 01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:32,100 But those are I think the only games last season where he broke 1793 01:28:32,100 --> 01:28:36,100 65 yards and you know, tells nothing else in Odell's first 1794 01:28:36,100 --> 01:28:38,000 game, he scored like a 70-yard touchdown. 1795 01:28:38,000 --> 01:28:40,000 I remember, yeah, he's got a couple long TD. 1796 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,700 So maybe you hit on those in Matthew Stafford again, but I 1797 01:28:42,700 --> 01:28:44,700 don't, I mean, I do think when you talk about even like you 1798 01:28:44,700 --> 01:28:48,000 said, 141 what yours for a run? First career 13, someone with 1799 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:52,100 rear 8.31 just Great. And also that includes him being 1800 01:28:52,100 --> 01:28:54,400 one of in one of his three seasons and he hasn't run at on 1801 01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,300 around over his full career because he was hurt last year, 1802 01:28:56,300 --> 01:28:59,600 didn't play time as a rookie, you're talking about being one 1803 01:28:59,600 --> 01:29:01,300 of only five or six. The NFL, it did that the other 1804 01:29:01,300 --> 01:29:02,800 guys were Jamar, Chase. Tebow Samuel. 1805 01:29:02,800 --> 01:29:05,600 Like, elite players and Beyonce Hardy was on that list last. 1806 01:29:05,600 --> 01:29:08,300 Wait, no, I'm talking about van. Jefferson has career yards per 1807 01:29:08,300 --> 01:29:09,400 hour 101.3. Yeah. 1808 01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,300 No, I'm saying, so his yards proud and be inflated by the 1809 01:29:12,300 --> 01:29:15,200 fact that he had just an abnormal number of extremely 1810 01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:18,100 long place, which I understand, you can't just pull those out of 1811 01:29:18,100 --> 01:29:19,500 samples. This, and the other thing, the 1812 01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:23,200 fact that he's People doing that still matters and yet it's still 1813 01:29:23,200 --> 01:29:25,200 not a good number. Even though he has an abnormal 1814 01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:27,500 number of these extremely long plays, everything else sucks in 1815 01:29:27,500 --> 01:29:31,600 this profile, right? And I do like to toot toot. 1816 01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:34,600 You had one point six seven yards per hour on last year. 1817 01:29:34,900 --> 01:29:36,900 It's like functionally his rookie year because he got, 1818 01:29:36,900 --> 01:29:41,700 redshirted, he's, he's like a very interesting Prospect. 1819 01:29:41,700 --> 01:29:43,700 If you just ignored his weight, which obviously, you shouldn't 1820 01:29:43,700 --> 01:29:48,700 do because 155 pounds it, that's one of the reasons you might get 1821 01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:50,300 red shirt. It is a key. 1822 01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:53,900 But yeah, I mean I don't I don't dislike to to it van keep 1823 01:29:53,900 --> 01:29:57,000 steaming up then I think 22 becomes obvious. 1824 01:29:57,100 --> 01:30:00,300 I'm just meaning, I'm just meaning this at well thing 1825 01:30:00,300 --> 01:30:05,300 because I'm pretty sure I can win because like he'll have at 1826 01:30:05,300 --> 01:30:07,100 least one flashy player. Yeah. 1827 01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:09,000 Yeah. He was like is like he's gonna 1828 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:11,700 and I'm gonna be like, bro. I told people to take him and 1829 01:30:11,700 --> 01:30:15,600 round 18 free, hang on your plate. 1830 01:30:15,600 --> 01:30:18,100 When you say wind, you just mean a Twitter Victory lap. 1831 01:30:18,100 --> 01:30:19,800 Yes. Oh yeah yeah yeah. 1832 01:30:19,900 --> 01:30:22,100 This is not about this is That's what it's all about. 1833 01:30:22,100 --> 01:30:25,400 I told you, literally you're not ever not everyone is as public 1834 01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,000 as we are so. So if your traffic, are you 1835 01:30:28,000 --> 01:30:36,100 concerned about the rivers at 22 but literally blow away, that 1836 01:30:36,100 --> 01:30:38,600 is, I hadn't thought about it. But now I'm gonna have to 1837 01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:42,300 reconsider this strategy. Yeah, Davis, that, that is some 1838 01:30:42,300 --> 01:30:45,900 pretty big downside for you on Twitter if to toe in 52 minutes 1839 01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:49,700 to do a 1:48 out Wells, running to the end zone with the 70 1840 01:30:49,700 --> 01:30:52,900 yard, bomb for all staff. Bird and he literally gets blown 1841 01:30:52,900 --> 01:30:56,700 out of bounds by a big gust of New York wind and he's out on 1842 01:30:56,700 --> 01:31:00,400 the 3-yard line and it turns into a cam Akers, 3-yard Rumble. 1843 01:31:01,700 --> 01:31:04,700 I will say, I think you would. I think you would go with the 1844 01:31:04,700 --> 01:31:08,100 bit though, David. So actually I'm not rooting for 1845 01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:10,400 that outcome because I think he would, you would have fun with 1846 01:31:10,400 --> 01:31:12,900 that. I'd find a way I do. 1847 01:31:12,900 --> 01:31:16,200 Like this is a team that they always bring in vets and this 1848 01:31:16,200 --> 01:31:18,200 and that and at some point this offseason they're going to talk 1849 01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:20,900 themselves into still being competitors and bring somebody. 1850 01:31:21,100 --> 01:31:24,300 Who was, you know, cut or can be had I know they don't have any 1851 01:31:24,700 --> 01:31:27,800 like resources whatsoever but whoever can be had for a fifth 1852 01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:30,400 rounder which is something that happens late in the offseason or 1853 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:34,200 it happens in August or they pick up a surprise release off 1854 01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:36,300 of waivers and then they just start running them out there 1855 01:31:36,300 --> 01:31:38,000 immediately like they did this with Odell. 1856 01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,100 They probably in the corpse of Allen Robinson, played him. 1857 01:31:40,500 --> 01:31:43,200 I don't think these guys have to run routes, actually, I think 1858 01:31:43,200 --> 01:31:46,100 they can bring in. I don't know who exactly those 1859 01:31:46,100 --> 01:31:48,900 names would be, but it won't be sure I can think of that's in 1860 01:31:48,907 --> 01:31:51,200 her division. Yeah, I don't think think they 1861 01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:52,900 would trade for hot because I think Hopkins and Adams would 1862 01:31:52,907 --> 01:31:55,200 require resources that they don't really have. 1863 01:31:55,200 --> 01:31:57,800 And I think they're kind of resetting on the big trades for 1864 01:31:57,800 --> 01:32:01,700 pieces and they like letting Ramsey go and they're kind of 1865 01:32:01,700 --> 01:32:04,800 resetting on some of the stuff for. 1866 01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,000 They've been buying a lot of stuff to make the run that they 1867 01:32:07,008 --> 01:32:11,400 did last year 2021, but I mean, somebody cheap. 1868 01:32:11,400 --> 01:32:14,500 Somebody who's a, you know, a cut that has my Counterpoint to 1869 01:32:14,500 --> 01:32:17,400 them reloading. The cabinet is that they spent a 1870 01:32:17,400 --> 01:32:19,900 fourth-round pick on Stenson Bennett, which is the most 1871 01:32:19,900 --> 01:32:23,200 unserious draft. Nick, I've ever seen 1872 01:32:23,200 --> 01:32:26,200 organization, make the 49ers is drafted kicker in the third 1873 01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:32,200 round. Immediately a moron seriously. 1874 01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:35,900 The 49ers are kind of Shanahan is the least serious. 1875 01:32:35,900 --> 01:32:38,600 Head coach, in the NFL, can we all agree on that, like Kyle 1876 01:32:38,600 --> 01:32:41,400 Shanahan of coordinating like his plays are so cool? 1877 01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:43,700 Why does he? I know but let's go see things 1878 01:32:43,700 --> 01:32:52,700 like a child, right? Like it's got like a guy who 1879 01:32:52,700 --> 01:32:57,100 would be fucking like going into a vape shop at like, 11:00 a.m. 1880 01:32:57,100 --> 01:33:00,000 on a They being like, dude, I fucking ran out last night like 1881 01:33:00,000 --> 01:33:01,400 I do it. I got it. 1882 01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:03,400 I can't. I gotta get another cartridge, 1883 01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:05,500 bro. That is what couch a Mayhem is 1884 01:33:05,500 --> 01:33:07,500 to me, just always. Gal braiding. 1885 01:33:07,500 --> 01:33:12,000 Always isn't massive mine. Do we have evidence that his 1886 01:33:12,400 --> 01:33:14,800 that his plays are not drawn in crayon. 1887 01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:21,500 Do we know that for sure? I'm thinking about his dad and 1888 01:33:21,500 --> 01:33:25,200 I'm like, his dad was a very serious, man, like I do not 1889 01:33:25,200 --> 01:33:27,500 think of his father as being a nun, serious. 1890 01:33:27,700 --> 01:33:30,500 Coach at all. No I guess if you just grow up a 1891 01:33:30,500 --> 01:33:34,100 rich kid though your chances of becoming unserious like raised 1892 01:33:34,100 --> 01:33:36,400 exponentially. Yeah, that's really the bet. 1893 01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:41,300 Ya, the Patriots being the cheapest offense. 1894 01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:45,400 It's just we've gone over this on. 1895 01:33:45,400 --> 01:33:47,700 I think every iteration of this show but it is. 1896 01:33:47,700 --> 01:33:51,000 It is the thing that I'm most certain is bound to be wrong. 1897 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,400 The Patriots will score points. The Patriots will have multiple 1898 01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:57,400 players who finish as fantasy starters to their position. 1899 01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:00,600 Mac Jones will probably be more like the quarterback 18, then 1900 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,400 the quarterback 37, or what the fuck, ever, he's being drafted 1901 01:34:03,400 --> 01:34:05,300 as right now. They have a real offensive 1902 01:34:05,300 --> 01:34:07,800 coordinator. That's really it. 1903 01:34:07,800 --> 01:34:09,900 It's just last year. They did not have a plan. 1904 01:34:10,200 --> 01:34:11,800 Bill, Belichick tried to Raw, Dog. 1905 01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:16,400 It like it was 1937, again, when they did actually do this, want 1906 01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:18,200 to Brady's years. They didn't have an offensive 1907 01:34:18,200 --> 01:34:28,600 coordinator. Actually tried to do this 1908 01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:30,900 without an offensive coordinator and it worked out fine because 1909 01:34:30,900 --> 01:34:35,100 it was fucking Tom Brady, Matt Jones, not Tom. 1910 01:34:35,100 --> 01:34:37,100 Brady doesn't work. You got to have an offensive 1911 01:34:37,100 --> 01:34:39,300 coordinator. Feels feels. 1912 01:34:39,300 --> 01:34:43,700 Like they'll figure it out. What is the risk that Jones gets 1913 01:34:43,700 --> 01:34:45,800 benched? Because that's the one thing 1914 01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:49,600 where I think the ATP I think probably overly prices that in, 1915 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,300 I think Jones is definitely under priced, but it doesn't 1916 01:34:53,300 --> 01:34:56,900 make him like a smash because there's some risk that he gets 1917 01:34:56,900 --> 01:34:58,400 bench for Bailey. He's happy, right? 1918 01:34:59,700 --> 01:35:04,200 I mean yeah like I so I kind of started out the offseason 1919 01:35:04,200 --> 01:35:08,700 thinking that way, but we have not gotten one Bailey's. 1920 01:35:08,700 --> 01:35:12,800 Abby, puff piece out of New England's not one not not a you 1921 01:35:12,800 --> 01:35:14,600 know, he's in there every day in the facility. 1922 01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:17,200 He was throwing with case Shawn Booty, like nothing. 1923 01:35:17,500 --> 01:35:19,800 NADA it was floating. They call it when he does it 1924 01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:21,400 like, he's floating occasion, on duty. 1925 01:35:21,700 --> 01:35:23,000 Right. Exactly. 1926 01:35:23,400 --> 01:35:28,200 So I think, I think the, the zappy era, you know, No the 1927 01:35:28,200 --> 01:35:31,700 Patriots got zapped for like three games and then that was 1928 01:35:31,700 --> 01:35:36,200 it. That's because Monday in 1929 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:42,200 Jefferson you ready for this? Kenyala day, Matthew Stafford 1930 01:35:42,200 --> 01:35:45,000 connection. But that is referred connection. 1931 01:35:45,400 --> 01:35:48,500 No, he times. What you already got his Mega 1932 01:35:48,500 --> 01:35:51,200 deal. Comes in signs for cheap plays 1933 01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:52,900 on the outside. As the vertical threat. 1934 01:35:52,900 --> 01:35:55,100 We got her back. I never said, this is how I'd 1935 01:35:55,100 --> 01:35:57,600 cast, is for entertainment. Only, this is not Financial 1936 01:35:57,600 --> 01:36:01,300 advice, literally need with all the caveats now. 1937 01:36:02,000 --> 01:36:04,000 Kenny Khalid a result. Yeah. 1938 01:36:09,500 --> 01:36:13,200 That's happening. Thank you Davis is gonna Ram the 1939 01:36:13,200 --> 01:36:18,100 Rams love guys who were good most recently three years ago, 1940 01:36:18,600 --> 01:36:21,200 obviously, Stafford and God I played together in Detroit, I 1941 01:36:21,208 --> 01:36:24,500 mean it's it's actually perfect but yes because it is a reason 1942 01:36:24,500 --> 01:36:31,200 and the reason it is done I can't move. 1943 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:56,200 I mean we just talked about how bad it is for the Rams like 1944 01:36:56,300 --> 01:36:59,200 anyone who was good at any point, he was a pro bowler. 1945 01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,300 Once that's enough, I think for the radio I want the total Owens 1946 01:37:02,300 --> 01:37:07,100 is gonna be the next signing. Yeah, I was traded away kenyala 1947 01:37:07,100 --> 01:37:09,900 day in a dynasty league for two first round picks. 1948 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:13,600 Wow. Davison I both going from 1949 01:37:13,600 --> 01:37:16,800 tanking to contending in the same year after a three-year 1950 01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:22,100 tank for both of us dies. I think, I still haven't got 1951 01:37:22,100 --> 01:37:25,000 room to D tank or go back to the tank. 1952 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:28,000 I can I can I can maneuver a little bit I first left. 1953 01:37:28,600 --> 01:37:31,500 Yeah, I did not. I did not spend my ammo on a guy 1954 01:37:31,500 --> 01:37:34,900 who I think is like 50/50 to be benched at some point in the 1955 01:37:34,900 --> 01:37:38,400 next two years. Yeah, I'm going Justin Fields. 1956 01:37:38,400 --> 01:37:42,600 Come on baby. Green crate is looking at 28% of 1957 01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,700 drawbacks not ending in a pass. Attempted be like he's got 1958 01:37:45,700 --> 01:37:53,300 nowhere to go but up, baby. All right, what do we got here? 1959 01:37:53,300 --> 01:37:56,800 We got 0. So this is that are getting 1960 01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:58,200 cheaper. Look at qb1. 1961 01:37:58,200 --> 01:38:00,000 Getting a lot cheaper, can't you? 1962 01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:05,100 And you also get a cheaper? Yeah, which we did say was 1963 01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:06,600 coming forever. Yeah, right. 1964 01:38:07,200 --> 01:38:10,800 Yeah. But then I mean is the wide 1965 01:38:10,800 --> 01:38:14,300 receiver Market adjusting a little bit on it. 1966 01:38:14,300 --> 01:38:17,600 Like actually this is what we said, this is what I said, oh, 1967 01:38:17,608 --> 01:38:21,800 they're moving up, the waters, getting even more expensive, am 1968 01:38:21,800 --> 01:38:23,900 I? Oh, I'm reading these lines 1969 01:38:23,900 --> 01:38:26,400 black lines and current I just read them backwards. 1970 01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:30,300 Okay, so in the west, a budding bags are feels like what's 1971 01:38:30,300 --> 01:38:33,500 happening weakly? So running backs are getting 1972 01:38:33,500 --> 01:38:35,900 cheaper and people are just drafting more wipe. 1973 01:38:35,900 --> 01:38:38,200 Do they go? It's weekly change. 1974 01:38:38,300 --> 01:38:41,100 On the bottom, the lines are 2022. 1975 01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:44,200 ATP, verse current. So running backs are cheaper 1976 01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:46,400 this year to last year, but they have gotten a little bit X. 1977 01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,600 More expensive, as QBs have gotten cheaper in the last 1978 01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,900 little, right, right. That makes sense but it is 1979 01:38:51,900 --> 01:38:53,200 tough. The wide receiver thing. 1980 01:38:53,200 --> 01:38:56,800 Like, I'm now drafting on DraftKings, a little bit more 1981 01:38:57,900 --> 01:39:00,600 and it's interesting like the wide receivers are cheaper 1982 01:39:00,600 --> 01:39:01,400 there. It's a little bit more 1983 01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:05,900 traditional and I'm like, okay, I'll draft a little bit more 1984 01:39:05,900 --> 01:39:11,800 running backs over on DraftKings like not that I won't go zere 1985 01:39:11,800 --> 01:39:13,700 running back there because you can build some really nice. 1986 01:39:13,700 --> 01:39:16,700 You're running back teams, but sometimes I'll make sure to get 1987 01:39:16,700 --> 01:39:20,000 a running back early because I know I'm going to get like six 1988 01:39:20,000 --> 01:39:22,600 seventh round jsn as opposed to, in the fifth. 1989 01:39:22,700 --> 01:39:25,500 You know, like I know, I'm going to get these guys later so I can 1990 01:39:25,500 --> 01:39:28,200 take my running backs. Early Underdog is so tough 1991 01:39:28,200 --> 01:39:30,200 because if you don't get your wide receivers early enough, 1992 01:39:30,500 --> 01:39:33,100 there are no backdoor option, you're fucked. 1993 01:39:33,100 --> 01:39:35,500 Yeah. It's like like I really hope I'm 1994 01:39:35,500 --> 01:39:38,900 getting some spike wigs at a job mechi and Nicole heart. 1995 01:39:38,900 --> 01:39:41,800 That's right. It gets so bad. 1996 01:39:43,500 --> 01:39:45,700 Take it, a little bit of hard. Then I've taken a little bit. 1997 01:39:45,700 --> 01:39:50,000 Aardman I think I meant that could work. 1998 01:39:51,000 --> 01:39:53,100 I haven't take Carmen, I'm I'm not. 1999 01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:57,400 So he's a part-time player and how do you feel? 2000 01:39:57,400 --> 01:39:58,800 How do we just have used this thing? 2001 01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:04,300 But his van Jefferson who's not? Because he's on a new team, he's 2002 01:40:04,300 --> 01:40:09,500 never been a full-time receiver and he's Not in Aaron Rodgers. 2003 01:40:09,500 --> 01:40:11,900 Good graces. Potentially like, oh, but no 2004 01:40:11,900 --> 01:40:15,600 2.1, not confident that he's maybe we do know he sucks. 2005 01:40:16,700 --> 01:40:21,900 Now he was flashing a little bit last year, honestly, to me to 2006 01:40:21,900 --> 01:40:24,700 me, this is the simple thesis. I mean, what it's like up to 2007 01:40:24,700 --> 01:40:27,500 team with Aaron Rodgers on it and I'm, you're not going to 2008 01:40:27,508 --> 01:40:29,900 degrade me and make me take out my hazard. 2009 01:40:30,600 --> 01:40:33,500 But harder than could be an efficiency play. 2010 01:40:33,500 --> 01:40:35,700 He theoretically, could be an efficiency play. 2011 01:40:35,700 --> 01:40:37,600 That's why I think of the van Jefferson thing. 2012 01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:39,100 I think you're playing for Spike weeks. 2013 01:40:39,100 --> 01:40:41,900 Like, literally like the definition of Spike week's big 2014 01:40:41,900 --> 01:40:43,000 plays, right? Efficient. 2015 01:40:43,000 --> 01:40:46,000 I don't think hardman's a bad pick, but I just get nervous. 2016 01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:48,900 this when I'm Because he pops in some of this in some of the 2017 01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:51,600 stuff that I look at, like his efficiency, I mean, he's been 2018 01:40:51,600 --> 01:40:56,200 quite efficient on the field, so He says I got on the field that 2019 01:40:56,200 --> 01:40:58,100 Mom just doesn't get on the field and then it's like, OK, 2020 01:40:58,100 --> 01:41:02,900 they're not, they may not cut. Corey Davis, and Corey Davis is 2021 01:41:02,900 --> 01:41:05,200 just are going to be a route stealer, you know? 2022 01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:06,600 Like, I don't want to drive for Davis. 2023 01:41:06,600 --> 01:41:08,900 But if Corey Davis is there Allen's art, is there Garrett? 2024 01:41:08,900 --> 01:41:12,500 Wilson's there, you know, rabbits on Randall, Cobbs. 2025 01:41:12,500 --> 01:41:15,400 They're like, it's a cool Arden's kind of just like he 2026 01:41:15,400 --> 01:41:18,400 kind of reminds me of 24 year-old Randall Cobb actually. 2027 01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:22,100 Wait, someone here has to go. I mean, Corey Davis, might go 2028 01:41:22,100 --> 01:41:24,600 Denzel mems micro these are your starting rims. 2029 01:41:24,800 --> 01:41:27,400 Seavers right here other than getting all they could have you 2030 01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:29,300 again. Something I was thinking, the 2031 01:41:29,300 --> 01:41:31,500 same thing with Corey Davis. I was like, he wasn't he was the 2032 01:41:31,500 --> 01:41:33,500 number five pick. He could easily be Aram. 2033 01:41:33,800 --> 01:41:36,700 He could be a ram for sure. That's actually yeah. 2034 01:41:37,100 --> 01:41:39,900 Why is it Corey Davis? A chief actually honestly while 2035 01:41:39,900 --> 01:41:43,200 we're here like that kind of fits their thing to do you like 2036 01:41:43,200 --> 01:41:44,800 the product? They like to bring in guys who 2037 01:41:44,800 --> 01:41:47,500 used to be good? Corey Coleman is technically a 2038 01:41:47,500 --> 01:41:50,300 Chiefs practice squad players by the fact that he's in the usfl 2039 01:41:50,300 --> 01:41:52,600 right now. When was Corey Coleman good? 2040 01:41:52,600 --> 01:41:56,000 I forget. Oh, he was awesome at Baylor. 2041 01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,800 He's never had before being drafted. 2042 01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:03,000 Yeah, I thought I saw Corey Coleman. 2043 01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,300 Put up like 180 yards and two touchdowns on stage. 2044 01:42:06,300 --> 01:42:09,800 I think I took him second overall in a rookie draft, all 2045 01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:11,400 right? So Corey Davis is birthday, is 2046 01:42:11,400 --> 01:42:14,000 in January guesses on how old he is. 2047 01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:18,700 Twenty eight, nine, he is 28 years old, wow. 2048 01:42:18,700 --> 01:42:22,700 Doesn't that feel wildly young? Yeah, yeah, I mean, I've been 2049 01:42:22,700 --> 01:42:25,300 angry about Corey Davis for her. Four-year college player. 2050 01:42:25,300 --> 01:42:26,100 That's great. Yeah. 2051 01:42:27,500 --> 01:42:29,100 He said he should land some are good. 2052 01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:33,600 Yeah, I think he could he could be like a solid. 2053 01:42:33,700 --> 01:42:35,500 I mean yeah I would take him over van. 2054 01:42:35,500 --> 01:42:38,900 Jefferson fear on the ramps. Yeah he's gonna be on the Rams 2055 01:42:38,900 --> 01:42:42,200 him Angola day their whole receiver rooms gonna be just 2056 01:42:42,200 --> 01:42:44,500 stacked for anyone joining the program. 2057 01:42:44,500 --> 01:42:45,900 This is for entertainment purposes only. 2058 01:42:47,400 --> 01:42:50,900 So what we're saying is we do you do the Daniel Jones jail and 2059 01:42:50,900 --> 01:42:53,300 Hyatt? Matt Stafford, Corey Davis back 2060 01:42:53,300 --> 01:42:54,300 door. Yeah. 2061 01:42:56,600 --> 01:43:00,300 Okay. What is the, what is the, what 2062 01:43:00,300 --> 01:43:03,300 is the actionable thing to do? Right now? 2063 01:43:03,300 --> 01:43:10,700 If in terms Crane, in terms of exposures, if we agree, That 2064 01:43:10,700 --> 01:43:13,200 they're the market has gotten significantly better at 2065 01:43:13,200 --> 01:43:15,700 predicting who's actually going to score points and that there's 2066 01:43:15,700 --> 01:43:19,300 this huge drop-off right after let's say, pick just 2067 01:43:19,300 --> 01:43:24,300 theoretically pick 110, are you honing in on the guys? 2068 01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:29,800 You really like more if the market is better at adequately 2069 01:43:30,400 --> 01:43:34,000 projecting points, or are you taking a more Blended approach 2070 01:43:34,000 --> 01:43:37,300 where you're just kind of letting drafts lot and random 2071 01:43:37,300 --> 01:43:40,600 fallers in your draft? Dictate your strategy. at what 2072 01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:44,400 point in the draft, I mean, I think either like I think I 2073 01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,700 think you could you can hit that both ways were like if the best 2074 01:43:47,700 --> 01:43:51,800 players are also all the top points cars in the top 100, is 2075 01:43:51,800 --> 01:43:57,300 it better to hone in on the same guys or very those up and and 2076 01:43:57,300 --> 01:44:00,300 then post pic 100, give me your thoughts both ways. 2077 01:44:01,100 --> 01:44:04,300 So I guess early on I like there's a few guys that I think 2078 01:44:04,300 --> 01:44:09,200 are like really badly priced and I'm okay fading those guys 2079 01:44:09,200 --> 01:44:14,200 pretty hard because I don't feel Feel confident that I can get 2080 01:44:14,200 --> 01:44:17,000 that I can like make up for bad pics later, you know what I 2081 01:44:17,008 --> 01:44:19,400 mean? Like if all, if the top 100s and 2082 01:44:19,400 --> 01:44:24,800 mostly right then I want to be I don't want to like go all-in, 2083 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:28,900 necessarily take huge stands within that group but I do in 2084 01:44:28,900 --> 01:44:31,000 terms of food stands in terms of the guys on targeting. 2085 01:44:31,700 --> 01:44:35,000 But I have taken some big stands and guys on guys have a fading 2086 01:44:35,000 --> 01:44:37,000 Odell Beckham would be an example of this where like I'm 2087 01:44:37,000 --> 01:44:39,100 just not really zero. It'll back them. 2088 01:44:39,500 --> 01:44:42,400 Yeah it's like I don't think I can like make up for that. 2089 01:44:42,600 --> 01:44:44,000 Is Tony's been a tough? Click for me? 2090 01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,500 Because I'm like, if it goes wrong, it could go like really 2091 01:44:46,500 --> 01:44:48,100 wrong. That one's tougher, because he 2092 01:44:48,100 --> 01:44:51,300 does have a ceiling. So I think that's like more a 2093 01:44:51,300 --> 01:44:54,300 little more personal preference. But there's and then the other 2094 01:44:54,300 --> 01:44:56,400 thing I'm doing is I've are certain like pockets of the 2095 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,000 draft where I really don't want to like need a running back. 2096 01:44:59,000 --> 01:45:01,400 I really don't want to feel like I need to take mile Sanders or 2097 01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:04,600 something. So I'm like working through the 2098 01:45:04,600 --> 01:45:07,400 draft in terms of my construction so that I'm like 2099 01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:10,200 aligning with the pockets of the draft and that's putting me more 2100 01:45:10,200 --> 01:45:12,000 on certain players than other players. 2101 01:45:12,500 --> 01:45:15,400 Cuz I'm like, taking more wide receivers like and rounds five 2102 01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:18,400 and six, you know, and then I'm taking more of the running backs 2103 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:20,400 in my grounds, you know, 6 7, 8 or whatever. 2104 01:45:21,800 --> 01:45:22,900 So there's round 5 running backs. 2105 01:45:22,900 --> 01:45:26,900 I don't have a ton of at all, but once you get to the later 2106 01:45:26,900 --> 01:45:31,100 picks, I think they're I am kind of willing to take more stands 2107 01:45:31,100 --> 01:45:33,100 on the guys that I'm super bullish on because I'm like, 2108 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:38,200 there's guys here that are, you know, potentially to the reasons 2109 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:40,200 that I can make up for a mistake later. 2110 01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:43,300 Like, and I think there are There's certain guys that I just 2111 01:45:43,300 --> 01:45:44,800 feel like our great pics right now. 2112 01:45:45,000 --> 01:45:47,500 You know, like I really like Marvin McD's ATP. 2113 01:45:47,500 --> 01:45:50,500 I like, I like Schubert a lot. I like Jim Warren a lot. 2114 01:45:50,500 --> 01:45:53,300 You know, there's certain running back from like clear 2115 01:45:53,300 --> 01:45:56,300 number two and very low chances that they are that they bring 2116 01:45:56,300 --> 01:46:01,200 someone in to compete. So yeah, I'm probably taking 2117 01:46:01,200 --> 01:46:04,300 like bigger stands at the end of the draft in terms of targets 2118 01:46:04,300 --> 01:46:06,200 and bigger stands in terms of Fades early. 2119 01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,700 Well, the payoff is way bigger if you get out of the draft, 2120 01:46:09,700 --> 01:46:10,900 right? You know, like a tuba. 2121 01:46:10,900 --> 01:46:13,500 Hubbard scores a touchdown. Touchdowns this year, something 2122 01:46:13,500 --> 01:46:18,100 like massive payoff, you know, right or if Brock Purdy's the 2123 01:46:18,108 --> 01:46:21,200 quarterback 11 and you know would just whatever. 2124 01:46:22,400 --> 01:46:24,300 Pretty much pretty might be a pretty good pick. 2125 01:46:24,300 --> 01:46:25,400 I probably need to mix him in more. 2126 01:46:25,400 --> 01:46:30,800 Pretty is or he is a really good pick, but we're back to the, the 2127 01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:33,800 fer-de-lance. Yeah, I think it comes up 2128 01:46:33,800 --> 01:46:36,400 multiple times in episode. It is what it is. 2129 01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:38,800 That's all we have for this week but I'm a newbie. 2130 01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:44,100 Okay. So we what are you doing? 2131 01:46:44,100 --> 01:46:49,800 So wait, say that again what? I mean I mean I am Stone fading 2132 01:46:50,100 --> 01:46:52,900 a lot of guys in the top 100 just like no interest in 2133 01:46:52,900 --> 01:46:57,900 clicking them. And but I am taking, I'm trying 2134 01:46:57,900 --> 01:47:03,700 to take a more variant approach. Rounds 11 through 15 because 2135 01:47:03,700 --> 01:47:07,000 looking back some of the big leaks I've made in my Years 2136 01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:10,400 playing fantasy football is when the market goes against me, just 2137 01:47:10,400 --> 01:47:18,400 very Only sticking to it and just fucking taking 47%, 2138 01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:22,600 Antonio, Gibson, when it becomes clear that Antonio Gibson has no 2139 01:47:22,600 --> 01:47:24,500 chance of being the guy that you need. 2140 01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:30,800 So like, for example, the Cook charbonnet Brian Robinson, 2141 01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:34,700 perine a chain Penny, Harris, Gibson, route. 2142 01:47:34,700 --> 01:47:36,700 I'll take some of all those guys. 2143 01:47:36,700 --> 01:47:39,600 The only one I'm Stone have zero of is Cleo Herbert because I 2144 01:47:39,608 --> 01:47:42,900 think he's maybe the running back three on the Bears, 2145 01:47:42,900 --> 01:47:48,400 honestly. And then dude, you haven't been 2146 01:47:48,400 --> 01:47:50,900 drafting that much Gretch. I just, let's sit, let's throw 2147 01:47:50,900 --> 01:47:52,700 this at grach. Let's throw a Gretsch a live 2148 01:47:52,700 --> 01:47:53,300 bullet. It? 2149 01:47:53,300 --> 01:47:56,000 See it, see what he would do? Okay, well, this is a thought 2150 01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,400 exercise. You're alive. 2151 01:47:59,400 --> 01:48:03,100 You did an elite quarterback and an elite tight, end draft, 2152 01:48:03,100 --> 01:48:04,600 right? So you need some wide receiver. 2153 01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:07,200 Help you. You're getting buried by the 2154 01:48:07,200 --> 01:48:11,600 wide receiver Avalanche, it is the ninth round. 2155 01:48:11,900 --> 01:48:13,700 These are the wide receivers you have available. 2156 01:48:13,700 --> 01:48:19,700 These are the services you can procure Odell Beckham, Odell 2157 01:48:19,700 --> 01:48:23,800 Beckham Allen Lazard, Tyler Boyd. 2158 01:48:24,200 --> 01:48:28,300 Jacoby Myers Darnell Mooney Sky more. 2159 01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:34,200 There's a Jones. Who's the next next? 2160 01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:38,400 Rookie at a BP. Then next next guy I'm not 2161 01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:41,200 taking Jonathan Mingo. Oh, wow. 2162 01:48:41,200 --> 01:48:44,100 So like when Johnson those guys already off the board, I'm 2163 01:48:44,100 --> 01:48:47,200 taking dude, you know, I'm taking in there and that range 2164 01:48:47,800 --> 01:48:51,200 you comes first. I'm probably taking Sky warm. 2165 01:48:51,500 --> 01:48:54,700 Wow, no, no, you take rice in her more, I think. 2166 01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,100 Yeah, I'm rice / more, is way cheaper. 2167 01:48:58,500 --> 01:49:02,200 Yeah, rice is rice. Is pick 128 Skies pick. 1/20 off 2168 01:49:02,200 --> 01:49:03,400 the name. Has you listed. 2169 01:49:03,400 --> 01:49:05,200 I didn't want any of those names, I can at least tell 2170 01:49:05,200 --> 01:49:08,500 myself Sky more as here to upside, I really like the thing 2171 01:49:08,500 --> 01:49:10,100 that got me back on more a little bit. 2172 01:49:10,100 --> 01:49:12,900 This offseason was, I can't remember who wrote about it, but 2173 01:49:12,900 --> 01:49:15,700 like basically any reads whole career, he's never had a rookie 2174 01:49:15,700 --> 01:49:17,900 do anything receiver? Like they've always kind of 2175 01:49:17,900 --> 01:49:21,800 redshirted, yeah, I mean it real lot of confidence when they look 2176 01:49:21,800 --> 01:49:24,300 at you. Yeah they drafted they drafted 2177 01:49:24,300 --> 01:49:28,300 rice and then they saw he might be the red shirt and more might 2178 01:49:28,300 --> 01:49:30,400 be the guy that's been there for a year now and be ready in your 2179 01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:33,600 to assortment Hardman played. We're selling the snaps in his 2180 01:49:33,600 --> 01:49:35,200 first career game. I don't know. 2181 01:49:35,200 --> 01:49:39,400 Buy it Tyreke was hurt right or he got, he got hurt. 2182 01:49:39,400 --> 01:49:41,800 Yeah, I was having this argument. 2183 01:49:41,800 --> 01:49:43,700 I was having this argument with Amico the other day. 2184 01:49:43,700 --> 01:49:47,600 I mean, skate, any any Sky more, if Sky, more, does end up doing 2185 01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,300 something or whatever it like, it's all hope IAM. 2186 01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:52,700 There's nothing you could point to in this sample in the NFL and 2187 01:49:52,700 --> 01:49:55,200 be like, it's going to be fine. Oh no, I mean, what is called 2188 01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:56,600 profile? You can say, it was a pretty 2189 01:49:56,600 --> 01:49:58,600 good Prospect use draft in the second round. 2190 01:49:58,600 --> 01:50:01,500 So wasn't, he wasn't, he an overage Prospect, though? 2191 01:50:02,500 --> 01:50:05,000 I think over age for a three-year maybe but he's a 2192 01:50:05,000 --> 01:50:06,400 thoroughly declare, truly declare. 2193 01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:13,600 He's turned 23 in September. He's he wasn't. 2194 01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:16,400 Yeah. All right. 2195 01:50:16,600 --> 01:50:19,900 All right. I will, I will open the Crypt 2196 01:50:20,100 --> 01:50:22,000 for Sky more. I will break the door. 2197 01:50:22,000 --> 01:50:24,700 I'm not going to unbury him, but I will open the door to the 2198 01:50:24,700 --> 01:50:27,700 model CM so that I can pull them out of the drawer, if need your 2199 01:50:27,700 --> 01:50:30,800 ear, if you're burying him with the tube where he can breathe. 2200 01:50:30,800 --> 01:50:33,500 So, if you know, not the Bell, that's got the belt too much 2201 01:50:33,500 --> 01:50:38,800 life, too much like you still grasping for air, Ethan practice 2202 01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:42,300 feet under, it's too much. I think, I think there is a 2203 01:50:42,308 --> 01:50:45,000 nonzero chance to Kansas City Chiefs line up against the 2204 01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:48,700 Detroit, Lions and week one of the 2023 NFL season and Richie, 2205 01:50:48,700 --> 01:50:51,300 fucking James comes and checks in before Sky more. 2206 01:50:51,900 --> 01:50:54,100 Well, I know that because I just saw you trade for it to James, 2207 01:50:54,100 --> 01:50:57,900 and it's actually, that was actually, that was actually the 2208 01:50:57,900 --> 01:51:00,000 centerpiece of the Cooper cup trade was computer. 2209 01:51:00,700 --> 01:51:02,600 I'm Richard, James is a really late option. 2210 01:51:02,600 --> 01:51:07,000 Why not the Jew rolls open? If Sky more is not it, then it's 2211 01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,000 Richie jeans, right? Somebody's gotta catch Paddy 2212 01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,400 rice, rice? Rice is kind of flexible. 2213 01:51:12,400 --> 01:51:14,800 You can play to be the answer to all these things, true, true. 2214 01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:18,500 It's time. We rethink is okay where he's 2215 01:51:18,500 --> 01:51:20,200 gone because he's not, he's not going. 2216 01:51:20,300 --> 01:51:23,400 I mean your this is a real Avalanche draft. 2217 01:51:23,400 --> 01:51:26,000 We have to take these guys in the ninth round you know their 2218 01:51:26,000 --> 01:51:31,700 atheism or whatever. Yeah but the point the point is 2219 01:51:32,000 --> 01:51:35,600 that At a range in the draft where you used to feel 2220 01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:40,000 comfortable, taking rookie wide receivers that you like like 2221 01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:42,700 three years ago, you could have taken, Jordan. 2222 01:51:42,700 --> 01:51:46,400 Addison at pick 124. You know, that's true. 2223 01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:48,000 That's gone. It's all over. 2224 01:51:48,700 --> 01:51:51,400 Yeah. Yeah, that's true. 2225 01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:55,200 I mean and maybe we'll get that because Justin Jefferson went in 2226 01:51:55,200 --> 01:51:59,100 like the nine ten round range because he wasn't going to start 2227 01:51:59,100 --> 01:52:02,000 right away because KJ Osbourne, whoever wasn't cage as more 2228 01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:03,300 someone else was running ahead of him, right? 2229 01:52:03,800 --> 01:52:11,000 Some some dust bowl and obviously that was a Osborne was 2230 01:52:11,000 --> 01:52:15,100 it was the guy who was on the Commander's or whatever the one 2231 01:52:15,100 --> 01:52:18,600 Washington algebra alderic. Robinson was it an older 2232 01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:21,400 crocodile know. So how is based around trying to 2233 01:52:21,400 --> 01:52:24,900 figure out who was who was ahead of Justin Jefferson and then is 2234 01:52:24,900 --> 01:52:30,400 ATP fell to the nine ten. As a religion KJ Osborne, I 2235 01:52:30,400 --> 01:52:33,000 don't think. So now all the PC Johnson from 2236 01:52:33,000 --> 01:52:36,400 contact, do you see? That's what it was? 2237 01:52:36,600 --> 01:52:40,300 Yeah. So I do think it is a 2238 01:52:40,300 --> 01:52:43,600 first-round pick Addison, Paula need something like always. 2239 01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:46,000 He's gonna start out of the slot, he's not into wide 2240 01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:48,600 receiver sets because Oz morning I think you probably need that 2241 01:52:48,600 --> 01:52:51,500 to fall to the 910 even like two or three years ago but he 2242 01:52:51,500 --> 01:52:53,500 wouldn't be going. He's going like six seven now 2243 01:52:54,900 --> 01:52:58,900 and as a number to wide receiver on his own team like for sure so 2244 01:52:58,900 --> 01:53:00,400 yeah, it's a different ATP environment. 2245 01:53:00,800 --> 01:53:04,800 Yeah, yeah, they receive. I just pulled up to look at the 2246 01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,400 receivers after that. Someone said I would take rice 2247 01:53:07,400 --> 01:53:09,700 or Dobbs and those guys go not long after that range, you 2248 01:53:09,708 --> 01:53:11,500 talked about Davis and I wouldn't be interested in those 2249 01:53:11,500 --> 01:53:12,500 guys. A little later. 2250 01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:16,000 Nico goes not long after I like I like all the like, literally. 2251 01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,000 I just think that range in the draft should be nuked because I 2252 01:53:19,000 --> 01:53:21,400 like like about 20 wide receivers better than those 2253 01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,500 guys. I was just going to say though 2254 01:53:23,500 --> 01:53:25,500 I'm with your point broad. Yeah no. 2255 01:53:25,500 --> 01:53:28,100 I mean like I also like that point to like, Marvin This is 2256 01:53:28,100 --> 01:53:29,900 going way later. I'm looking further and further 2257 01:53:29,900 --> 01:53:31,000 down. And I'm like, I mean, why 2258 01:53:31,000 --> 01:53:32,700 wouldn't Marvin's going that range? 2259 01:53:32,700 --> 01:53:36,000 Like, he's a because, like one of those guys, I think you're 2260 01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:37,000 outside the wide receiver window. 2261 01:53:37,000 --> 01:53:39,500 I think you've identified the spot where you're no longer 2262 01:53:39,600 --> 01:53:40,900 seek. You don't have a lot of ceiling. 2263 01:53:40,900 --> 01:53:43,800 You have to take shots on, like, maybe Marvin's is generational. 2264 01:53:44,500 --> 01:53:48,100 Yeah, to me, but there's a little bit of a difference where 2265 01:53:48,100 --> 01:53:51,100 you get like, I've actually taken Jameson Williams kind of 2266 01:53:51,108 --> 01:53:54,600 in that range. He's so tricky for me, he is 2267 01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:56,500 tough. But like, if you take him as, 2268 01:53:56,900 --> 01:54:00,700 you know, wide Her five. Then, you know, it's like I can 2269 01:54:00,700 --> 01:54:04,500 get him. I can pull him along and he at 2270 01:54:04,500 --> 01:54:07,100 least has ceiling. He at least has a weekly saying. 2271 01:54:07,100 --> 01:54:09,800 I don't love taking him, but I've mixed him in a couple 2272 01:54:09,800 --> 01:54:11,500 times. I felt like a little bit behind 2273 01:54:11,500 --> 01:54:15,300 and I'm like, well, I'm gonna have to draft, you know, the van 2274 01:54:15,300 --> 01:54:18,300 Jefferson's of the world. The the Nico Collins Alec 2275 01:54:18,300 --> 01:54:21,100 Pierce, you can get a little later like guys who are gonna be 2276 01:54:21,100 --> 01:54:24,900 out there and just to like, try to get me through a little bit 2277 01:54:24,900 --> 01:54:27,500 Hunter Renfro, you know, just like helped, get me through 2278 01:54:27,500 --> 01:54:28,900 that. Early part of the season. 2279 01:54:28,900 --> 01:54:31,700 And then, at least I have some ceiling down the back half with 2280 01:54:31,700 --> 01:54:35,300 James, but it's tough. That part of the draft is 2281 01:54:35,300 --> 01:54:38,100 really, really tough. Round pick 100. 2282 01:54:39,700 --> 01:54:42,700 Yeah. We're I mean are you at where 2283 01:54:42,700 --> 01:54:45,700 you at like conceptually with a guy like that? 2284 01:54:45,700 --> 01:54:48,000 Who is fucking suspended for six games? 2285 01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:49,900 Would put more money in the regular season? 2286 01:54:51,400 --> 01:54:53,900 Yeah, I think that is kind of interesting. 2287 01:54:54,400 --> 01:54:57,400 I wish he was cheaper because I don't want to have zero of him 2288 01:54:57,400 --> 01:55:01,300 because he could so totally be the guy you need and week 17 2289 01:55:01,400 --> 01:55:06,400 like honestly, but I just don't like taking a guy who's locked 2290 01:55:06,400 --> 01:55:09,400 into six weeks of zeros. Yeah, but stuff. 2291 01:55:09,500 --> 01:55:13,200 If I was going to say wet right after this range, I do think 2292 01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,800 James is probably before this wide receiver window concept, 2293 01:55:15,800 --> 01:55:17,900 but right after this range, I was looking at the other 80 2294 01:55:17,900 --> 01:55:21,900 pieces, like I feel like it's got to be the strike zone for 2295 01:55:21,900 --> 01:55:24,400 running back and most built so it is. 2296 01:55:24,600 --> 01:55:27,700 Yeah, it very much is. I want Richard penny in a 114 2297 01:55:27,700 --> 01:55:29,700 ATP compared to all those receivers that question. 2298 01:55:29,700 --> 01:55:32,000 You asked me Davis, like, I want Richard Penny over Sky. 2299 01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:37,000 Moreover, all those guys, I want some angers perine at 109 like 2300 01:55:37,000 --> 01:55:40,200 I'm in a both those vets where they landed It's like, you know, 2301 01:55:40,200 --> 01:55:43,400 ambiguous back fields and this is the reason I have a hard time 2302 01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:46,700 with going to running backs a lot early. 2303 01:55:47,100 --> 01:55:50,300 It is something I'm doing like a lot more than I ever have, you 2304 01:55:50,300 --> 01:55:51,800 know, wide receiver, running back running back. 2305 01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:55,100 I've done that already probably more times in my entire life. 2306 01:55:55,400 --> 01:55:58,400 This year I've like already doubled up my exposure to that 2307 01:55:58,400 --> 01:56:02,100 start because it is kind of unique, I think, or at least, 2308 01:56:02,100 --> 01:56:05,600 you know, very atypical for you to be able to get two really 2309 01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:07,200 strong running back, but it's and rounds two. 2310 01:56:07,200 --> 01:56:11,300 And then three, But I also like trying to get an early 2311 01:56:11,300 --> 01:56:13,500 quarterback and I like trying to get an early round tight end, 2312 01:56:13,500 --> 01:56:17,000 especially with the prices falling after last year 2313 01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:19,700 significantly. You can get Kyle pits and Dallas 2314 01:56:19,700 --> 01:56:22,000 got her in the sixth round. I think both those are really 2315 01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:25,600 strong values. You can get Mark Andrews in the 2316 01:56:25,600 --> 01:56:29,300 third, you know, like sometimes the late 3rd like he's I think a 2317 01:56:29,400 --> 01:56:32,100 awesome pic there. So, there's like The Kill, still 2318 01:56:32,100 --> 01:56:34,600 going in the fifth. After being, like the guy you 2319 01:56:34,608 --> 01:56:36,800 needed in last year's playoffs and potentially having pretty 2320 01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:38,400 all season. I mean, kittel could absolutely 2321 01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:39,900 fucking smash it, fits around. DP. 2322 01:56:40,200 --> 01:56:43,200 So, all right, I've got two running backs. 2323 01:56:43,200 --> 01:56:45,200 I've got a quarterback, and I've got an elite tight end. 2324 01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:49,800 I'm already kind of dead at wide receiver, I'm already dead. 2325 01:56:50,200 --> 01:56:53,000 So you got to figure out what to to sacrifice from that other 2326 01:56:53,000 --> 01:56:54,900 group, you just listed. And I think it's one of the 2327 01:56:54,900 --> 01:56:56,200 running backs. Yeah. 2328 01:56:56,600 --> 01:56:59,700 And then you because what happens is, then you can still 2329 01:56:59,700 --> 01:57:02,200 get four wide receivers through seven which hate and Winks is 2330 01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:05,500 called his Golden Rule and I think is more important maybe 2331 01:57:05,500 --> 01:57:10,000 than ever to do that and that how bad the drop off is and then 2332 01:57:10,700 --> 01:57:14,300 you can still get that, you know, and a wide receiver 5 2333 01:57:14,300 --> 01:57:17,200 type, you know, four things get too crazy. 2334 01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:20,400 Like you can grab a Sutton or a Michael Thomas or abatement 2335 01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:23,200 right as your wide receiver five before the draw, the cliff 2336 01:57:23,200 --> 01:57:26,400 really hits and then you're perfectly set up for that next 2337 01:57:26,400 --> 01:57:29,800 pocket of the draft. The UN talk any Damien Harris. 2338 01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:32,300 We talked about Antonio Gibson, we talked about go right after 2339 01:57:32,300 --> 01:57:34,500 that. There's a lot of attraction or 2340 01:57:34,500 --> 01:57:37,300 been a, I really like Dylan and I think it's pretty interesting. 2341 01:57:37,300 --> 01:57:41,900 Like sure, no, he's like fairly he's definitely got some talent 2342 01:57:41,900 --> 01:57:43,600 and could help you out right away. 2343 01:57:43,600 --> 01:57:46,000 Huge contingent value, Damien Harris, I mean with a different 2344 01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:48,900 Be there. Take some of the pieces until 2345 01:57:48,900 --> 01:57:51,400 last year was a might do more both the backs out there. 2346 01:57:51,600 --> 01:57:54,000 Aaron Jones has a year older different quarterback. 2347 01:57:54,000 --> 01:57:56,600 They might actually do more of that this year and like, it's a 2348 01:57:56,608 --> 01:57:59,600 little post type from that theory, but the idea that Dylan 2349 01:57:59,600 --> 01:58:03,200 could have some 25 carry games as big physical back, probably 2350 01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:05,300 more practical with Jordan, love the quarterback and they were 2351 01:58:05,300 --> 01:58:07,700 just like, hey this is all we can get going in this week and 2352 01:58:07,700 --> 01:58:10,100 we're going to just keep giving the ball to doing Aaron Johnson. 2353 01:58:10,100 --> 01:58:14,200 Took a pay cut to stay with the team, probably his last year 2354 01:58:14,200 --> 01:58:16,000 there, I would assume any to pull this. 2355 01:58:16,100 --> 01:58:18,600 On track before saying that but yeah I mean he's super good, but 2356 01:58:18,600 --> 01:58:20,000 they also use him as a receiver and stuff. 2357 01:58:20,000 --> 01:58:22,900 There's a reason both those guys were going even higher are 2358 01:58:22,900 --> 01:58:26,500 people out on AJ, Dylan just because he liked had a dip in 2359 01:58:26,500 --> 01:58:29,000 performance last year, but like he still might be the 2360 01:58:29,000 --> 01:58:33,300 quadfather, right. That's exactly the debate right 2361 01:58:33,300 --> 01:58:35,100 now. I mean at 105 ATP I think the 2362 01:58:35,100 --> 01:58:38,500 argument is there out. And then that what you just said 2363 01:58:38,500 --> 01:58:41,000 is just y to be in. Like, you might say this is my 2364 01:58:41,000 --> 01:58:43,200 father. This is why structure works, 2365 01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,500 right? Because if AJ Dillon moves up 2366 01:58:45,500 --> 01:58:48,200 into the rain, Where you're having to sacrifice one of the 2367 01:58:48,200 --> 01:58:52,800 last viable wide receivers, then I'm out, but is he's if he's in 2368 01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:55,800 a Range were wide receivers happen to completely crater, 2369 01:58:56,100 --> 01:58:59,400 right? I'm in, you know, it's like what 2370 01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,800 am I what's the opportunity cost and right now? 2371 01:59:01,800 --> 01:59:04,500 Dylan's kind of past the point where there really is that much 2372 01:59:04,500 --> 01:59:07,300 opportunity costs kind of like, maybe I'm trying to make sure I 2373 01:59:07,308 --> 01:59:09,200 don't get locked out at quarterback with the two 2374 01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:13,000 quarterback build, but otherwise, like I've probably 2375 01:59:13,800 --> 01:59:16,000 either taking a tight end or am waiting at tight end. 2376 01:59:16,100 --> 01:59:17,900 End. Like, I don't mind the titans of 2377 01:59:17,900 --> 01:59:19,900 that range. But there's just, I want to just 2378 01:59:19,900 --> 01:59:23,000 be sitting here in this pocket and be able to fire a couple 2379 01:59:23,200 --> 01:59:26,500 running back picks and most drafts, it's pretty pretty nice 2380 01:59:26,500 --> 01:59:28,900 pocket for running back by the only thing I would say I agree 2381 01:59:28,900 --> 01:59:31,400 with all that I was just about to say some most important 2382 01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:34,200 pocket of every draft but then I would say that I that's how I 2383 01:59:34,208 --> 01:59:37,700 draft have drafted over the last couple years is sort of trying 2384 01:59:37,700 --> 01:59:39,500 to identify that vegetable window and making that very 2385 01:59:39,500 --> 01:59:42,200 important and being probably to concentrate because I think 2386 01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:44,100 that's what led to me. Not having like basically any 2387 01:59:44,100 --> 01:59:45,500 Josh Jacobs last year for example. 2388 01:59:45,500 --> 01:59:48,400 So, Are some running backs that get a little bit too pricey into 2389 01:59:48,400 --> 01:59:50,600 that last area of the receivers that we do still want to get 2390 01:59:50,600 --> 01:59:53,100 some exposure to. But yeah, I mean once the 2391 01:59:53,100 --> 01:59:55,800 receivers dry up, I think running back is the superior 2392 01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:57,200 pick. That's the bill be okey. 2393 01:59:57,700 --> 02:00:00,500 This is one of the reasons why I think you know in saying it's a 2394 02:00:00,500 --> 02:00:01,800 good thing. Sam's not here to hear me say 2395 02:00:01,800 --> 02:00:03,200 this but I think this is my reasons. 2396 02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:07,000 It's zero running back still completely viable in this ATP 2397 02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:09,300 environment. Even though you know you're you 2398 02:00:09,300 --> 02:00:12,900 are looking at really nice and a typical values and potentially 2399 02:00:12,900 --> 02:00:15,200 values. It won't be around later in the 2400 02:00:15,300 --> 02:00:18,100 in the offseason. Even on like a Tony Pollard and 2401 02:00:18,108 --> 02:00:19,800 a reminder Stephenson. And adjust Jacobson the Nick 2402 02:00:19,800 --> 02:00:22,800 Chubb and a Derrick Henry, write all these guys right around that 2403 02:00:22,800 --> 02:00:26,500 kind of two, three turn area. But you can skip those guys and 2404 02:00:26,500 --> 02:00:29,700 one of the reasons I think you can is that you can go get like 2405 02:00:30,100 --> 02:00:32,900 a Damien Pierce, right? You can go get some of these 2406 02:00:32,900 --> 02:00:35,500 guys that are going to probably move up in value. 2407 02:00:35,500 --> 02:00:37,700 Joe Mixon right mix-ins. Either going to be way more 2408 02:00:37,700 --> 02:00:41,500 expensive or way cheaper but now if you want to make that bet you 2409 02:00:41,500 --> 02:00:45,100 can go get those guys as your rb1 and I that one in the less 2410 02:00:45,100 --> 02:00:48,000 that is one of the lessons. To me of last year with Josh, I 2411 02:00:48,000 --> 02:00:51,400 think a kers could be an rb1, we talked about Madison having some 2412 02:00:51,400 --> 02:00:53,500 paths. I mean, even like going back to 2413 02:00:53,500 --> 02:00:56,900 the James Conner. Well, as like the start of a 0, 2414 02:00:56,900 --> 02:00:59,600 RB build. That's the area we just doesn't 2415 02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:00,400 totally. Yeah. 2416 02:01:00,800 --> 02:01:02,900 There's still some wide receiver Targets in those areas, but 2417 02:01:02,900 --> 02:01:06,500 those are guys that you can see as being very viable running 2418 02:01:06,500 --> 02:01:08,300 back picks as well. Like, if you're gonna have a, 2419 02:01:08,300 --> 02:01:12,000 this year's Josh Jacobs, I don't know who would possibly be 2420 02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:14,100 obviously, that's hard to figure out in that guy doesn't always 2421 02:01:14,100 --> 02:01:17,100 emerge, but I mean, maybe. It's you know an Acres could 2422 02:01:17,100 --> 02:01:19,200 have that possibility if he can get back to the way, played a 2423 02:01:19,200 --> 02:01:20,900 couple years ago. And I feel like late last year 2424 02:01:20,900 --> 02:01:23,100 when he got to about the 18-month post Achilles, he 2425 02:01:23,100 --> 02:01:26,000 started to look like that player again which are it's supposed to 2426 02:01:26,000 --> 02:01:27,700 be like an 18 month recovery process. 2427 02:01:27,700 --> 02:01:29,200 I didn't expect him to be good early in the year. 2428 02:01:29,200 --> 02:01:32,200 I was feeding him and drafts what I saw in December. 2429 02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:34,600 I was actually intrigued by and I'm a little intrigued by acres 2430 02:01:34,600 --> 02:01:39,500 for this year for that reason. Yeah, and I think if we were 2431 02:01:39,500 --> 02:01:41,800 expecting running back, atp's to move up, we're going to expect 2432 02:01:41,800 --> 02:01:43,900 them to move up throughout the draft. 2433 02:01:43,900 --> 02:01:47,000 And so this pocket, where you can sit back and get some of 2434 02:01:47,000 --> 02:01:52,200 these like like legitimate week. One starters at a range of the 2435 02:01:52,208 --> 02:01:55,500 draft where like the opportunity cost is has gone down at wide 2436 02:01:55,500 --> 02:01:57,500 receiver. I mean, I think there's a bit of 2437 02:01:57,508 --> 02:01:59,600 a drop-off around that round 5 range. 2438 02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:03,300 So if you're, you know, potentially there's there's more 2439 02:02:03,300 --> 02:02:06,800 weird shit and ambiguity because there are multiple That could be 2440 02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:11,700 impacted by a suspension or Ezekiel Elliott Leonard, 2441 02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:14,600 fournette, or Curry Mont being signed there to. 2442 02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:16,500 Like there's there's there's a lot of room. 2443 02:02:16,500 --> 02:02:21,500 I mean, you could you could tell me Right now that you have the 2444 02:02:21,500 --> 02:02:24,500 knowledge of foresight and that Kareem hunt sign somewhere and 2445 02:02:24,500 --> 02:02:27,100 had 1,100 yards and eight touchdowns and I'd be like, I 2446 02:02:27,100 --> 02:02:27,600 don't know. Yeah. 2447 02:02:27,600 --> 02:02:30,200 Probably like could totally happen. 2448 02:02:31,400 --> 02:02:34,000 I think he needs a backfield that gets hollowed out by 2449 02:02:34,000 --> 02:02:35,200 injuries. Yeah. 2450 02:02:35,200 --> 02:02:38,100 But that's going to happen. I mean the one thing I can say 2451 02:02:38,100 --> 02:02:40,100 with certainty is that I don't know which team it's going to be 2452 02:02:40,100 --> 02:02:42,700 but there are going to be multiple backfield impacted by 2453 02:02:42,700 --> 02:02:46,300 the preseason injuries. Yeah, I mean, member the Ravens 2454 02:02:46,300 --> 02:02:49,900 a few years ago or Dobbins went down Gus Edwards went down and 2455 02:02:50,000 --> 02:02:51,900 Yeah. And the first time Justice Hill 2456 02:02:51,900 --> 02:02:55,400 but he was over it. Ya dice on Williams was the weak 2457 02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:56,700 one. Oh my God. 2458 02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:02,900 And he wasn't even the answer. Yeah, it was like he was fond of 2459 02:03:02,900 --> 02:03:08,100 Freeman. He killed it for a touchdown and 2460 02:03:08,100 --> 02:03:11,100 then he blew a pass block in the like the first drive of the 2461 02:03:11,108 --> 02:03:12,900 second half against the Raiders got Lamar. 2462 02:03:12,900 --> 02:03:15,600 Absolutely smoked. And we never saw him again, ever 2463 02:03:15,600 --> 02:03:20,700 some games, the table and The foreman? 2464 02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:22,100 Yeah. Want to format. 2465 02:03:22,100 --> 02:03:24,000 It was yeah. I'm anna-marie premium. 2466 02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:26,600 Yeah, yeah. All right. 2467 02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:28,100 So we should we land the plane here. 2468 02:03:28,100 --> 02:03:30,300 What Gretchen, we didn't tell you this. 2469 02:03:30,300 --> 02:03:33,500 I don't know if you're aware, but we each pick an ATP Riser, 2470 02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:38,500 pick an ATP Riser. Oh, that's gonna be gonna be a 2471 02:03:38,500 --> 02:03:41,600 new Riser. You pick someone that's going to 2472 02:03:41,600 --> 02:03:43,400 rise in value from here. Sure. 2473 02:03:43,600 --> 02:03:47,300 Sure, I can go for next week, just in the next know, by the 2474 02:03:47,300 --> 02:03:49,500 end of the bright spot in the offseason, isn't it? 2475 02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:52,700 Yes. Yeah, yes. 2476 02:03:52,700 --> 02:03:54,700 Oh so we're trying to bank some clothing line value. 2477 02:03:54,700 --> 02:03:57,400 We're also trying to give people good pics but the the game that 2478 02:03:57,400 --> 02:04:02,800 we're playing, I teach too much. Don't you did what? 2479 02:04:03,400 --> 02:04:06,500 I cheated a couple weeks ago, Jerick McKinnon like, just got 2480 02:04:06,500 --> 02:04:09,200 signed and I use Jerick McKinnon as my Sylvie. 2481 02:04:10,500 --> 02:04:12,900 I'm gonna pick, I know who I want to do my pick. 2482 02:04:12,900 --> 02:04:15,800 It was who I started the show. Kind of taking you guys on a 2483 02:04:15,800 --> 02:04:21,200 15-minute drive, but Madison is risen a ton, but Ty Chandler and 2484 02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:24,600 the way McBride's are not moving up for the exact same reasons 2485 02:04:24,600 --> 02:04:27,200 about Dalvin, cook potential release, and I think they should 2486 02:04:27,200 --> 02:04:29,500 also be moving up. Well, I got to pick one though, 2487 02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:31,200 because this is, this is why they're not moving up. 2488 02:04:31,300 --> 02:04:32,900 No one knows. I don't think I'll take Tai 2489 02:04:32,900 --> 02:04:34,300 Chandler. I think because he's got a 2490 02:04:34,300 --> 02:04:35,600 little bit more three down profile. 2491 02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:38,500 That I would, I would take and silver, especially hearing the 2492 02:04:38,500 --> 02:04:39,800 silver. Hasn't rained are B44. 2493 02:04:39,800 --> 02:04:41,400 It's all Lock to move up that point. 2494 02:04:41,700 --> 02:04:44,400 Yeah, that's a great point. He's moving up because it's 2495 02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:45,800 almost got him way out of anything. 2496 02:04:45,900 --> 02:04:48,100 So I'll cheat. Like Davis did like the others. 2497 02:04:52,200 --> 02:04:54,500 All right, go ahead. You think you can go where you 2498 02:04:54,500 --> 02:04:56,800 want me to go? Well, I have one. 2499 02:04:56,800 --> 02:05:01,800 So, okay, this one is not. I don't think all that sharp 2500 02:05:01,800 --> 02:05:03,900 from like just trying to play the game because I'm not sure 2501 02:05:03,900 --> 02:05:08,700 that he moves up. But Kyle pits man, Kyle pits in 2502 02:05:08,708 --> 02:05:11,300 the sixth round. This isn't this is Otto. 2503 02:05:11,300 --> 02:05:14,400 No, I do. You want to like I agree with 2504 02:05:14,400 --> 02:05:15,400 you. I'm totally with you. 2505 02:05:15,400 --> 02:05:17,700 But this is your, this is not a good selection for the game. 2506 02:05:17,800 --> 02:05:20,200 Yeah, it's bad. You know what, you know what 2507 02:05:20,200 --> 02:05:22,600 Davis I'm here. Trying to help the people. 2508 02:05:23,700 --> 02:05:25,400 Okay. Yeah, to help them with. 2509 02:05:25,400 --> 02:05:30,500 Clv not a take. This is, this is, this is a guy 2510 02:05:30,500 --> 02:05:34,200 who you look at Chris's. Chris has your rebuttal, how can 2511 02:05:34,200 --> 02:05:38,200 you possibly pick pets when Chris is completely, right? 2512 02:05:38,200 --> 02:05:41,200 Kyle, pets is trash. What great Chris bucket, Chris 2513 02:05:41,200 --> 02:05:45,900 fucking Zapped your ass dude. I hope it's is Ben, he did. 2514 02:05:46,100 --> 02:05:47,700 Come on Fitz, I'm gonna try to dig out. 2515 02:05:47,700 --> 02:05:49,300 I'm six feet under with the air hole. 2516 02:05:49,300 --> 02:05:55,000 Now look at Kyle pits one of the best tight and Prospects of all 2517 02:05:55,000 --> 02:06:01,200 time had 1026 yards as a fucking rookie 2.0, two yards per 2518 02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:04,300 outrun, paid off a ridiculously high ATP. 2519 02:06:04,300 --> 02:06:08,400 Then he, at this point, he's the cheapest he's ever been, he's 2520 02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:10,000 coming off a year. Yeah, it's not a great. 2521 02:06:10,100 --> 02:06:12,700 Year, he still was fairly efficient on a per hour basis. 2522 02:06:12,700 --> 02:06:16,300 One point six, nine yards per hour on, is it 1.92 now for his 2523 02:06:16,300 --> 02:06:19,000 career, that's pretty good. For a third-year player who with 2524 02:06:19,000 --> 02:06:22,600 a super high pedigree who has tight end eligibility and we're 2525 02:06:22,600 --> 02:06:25,100 looking at a team that was historically run-heavy. 2526 02:06:25,100 --> 02:06:27,400 Last year, particularly when Mariota was under Center, we 2527 02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:30,700 don't have to deal with that. They have a couple, like, very 2528 02:06:30,700 --> 02:06:33,400 thin outs for quarterback play. I think they would be maybe a 2529 02:06:33,407 --> 02:06:36,300 destination for Lance. They would be maybe Tannehill, 2530 02:06:36,300 --> 02:06:39,400 although the Titans probably keep him, but I also just think 2531 02:06:39,400 --> 02:06:44,300 like, they might maybe not like so deranged with their place 2532 02:06:44,300 --> 02:06:48,300 election this year, with Ritter compared to Mariota, because we 2533 02:06:48,308 --> 02:06:54,500 already saw that a little bit and like Honest to God, you just 2534 02:06:54,500 --> 02:06:58,000 need him to have a few Spike weeks and he can pay off this 2535 02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,300 ATP because the tight end position. 2536 02:07:00,300 --> 02:07:02,400 Generally, you just don't get that many Spike weeks like 2537 02:07:02,400 --> 02:07:04,800 you're competing against ring with the take on the player. 2538 02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:06,400 It's is the market going to buy it? 2539 02:07:06,500 --> 02:07:10,200 Yeah, I don't know but but I think you want to be overweight, 2540 02:07:10,200 --> 02:07:14,000 Kyle pits and I think taking this, even if he doesn't 2541 02:07:14,300 --> 02:07:17,200 increase, like if he's a seventh-round pick in August, 2542 02:07:17,900 --> 02:07:20,800 okay? I will have 45 percent cow pits. 2543 02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:24,700 I'm Fuck, I'm pretty that 45 but I mean, I'm good with 45% 2544 02:07:24,700 --> 02:07:26,600 cockpits. If he falls around in value, I 2545 02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:28,400 will make that stand. I think this is the type of 2546 02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:29,800 Stan. You want to make incredibly 2547 02:07:29,800 --> 02:07:32,400 talented player. Has already flashed multiple 2548 02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:36,300 times plays a position where there's very little upside, you 2549 02:07:36,300 --> 02:07:40,000 know, outside of a few guys. And guess what? 2550 02:07:40,400 --> 02:07:42,100 When you have two million dollars, burning a hole in your 2551 02:07:42,108 --> 02:07:44,300 Underdog account, you can make these types of things you can. 2552 02:07:44,500 --> 02:07:47,000 You can bet on regression, you can bet on regression, right. 2553 02:07:47,000 --> 02:07:50,200 And there's other people suffered through 2022 with 2554 02:07:50,200 --> 02:07:53,400 calpads, pretty pretty Heavily. It was not it was not so good 2555 02:07:53,400 --> 02:07:56,200 for the bank account. But that was a that was a two, 2556 02:07:56,200 --> 02:07:59,800 three turn ATP. The difference between that ATP 2557 02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:03,500 and the sixth round is massive and that there is already I 2558 02:08:03,500 --> 02:08:06,300 think a tear break at wide receiver in this range, you're 2559 02:08:06,300 --> 02:08:07,900 already like coming back, it's already dudes. 2560 02:08:07,900 --> 02:08:10,400 You're not feeling super good about the six rounds Jason's 2561 02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:12,900 gone. Oh no, let's move on because I 2562 02:08:12,900 --> 02:08:14,600 haven't drafted yet. I'm going to be going to Oregon 2563 02:08:14,600 --> 02:08:16,600 a couple weeks. Let's not blow up cowpats ATP. 2564 02:08:16,600 --> 02:08:18,500 Yet. Can I get a few shares first? 2565 02:08:19,000 --> 02:08:21,100 Do like that? There's no enthusiasm from you 2566 02:08:21,100 --> 02:08:24,000 because Cuz you agree with me. Yeah, I don't want, I don't have 2567 02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:25,800 anything to talk you off of this thing. 2568 02:08:25,800 --> 02:08:27,600 Nothing. Nothing stick Under Wraps. 2569 02:08:27,900 --> 02:08:31,900 Nothing we say is going to people have made their minds up 2570 02:08:31,900 --> 02:08:34,100 about Kyle. Peck gave me, hope, I hope and 2571 02:08:34,100 --> 02:08:35,800 coming from us. Like, we're not gonna be able to 2572 02:08:35,800 --> 02:08:38,900 move Kyle pits up anymore. That we're part of that horrible 2573 02:08:38,900 --> 02:08:40,700 experience. We're part of the Kyle pits 2574 02:08:40,700 --> 02:08:43,800 industrial complex for sure. No one's gonna listen to us on. 2575 02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:46,600 Scowl just guy war, or any of that stuff, like, no way. 2576 02:08:46,600 --> 02:08:49,300 Well, I hope they listen to me and I hope they, I hope they 2577 02:08:49,300 --> 02:08:51,300 don't go into the light with Sky more. 2578 02:08:51,500 --> 02:08:54,600 Hope that I hope that you I hope they go the right direction. 2579 02:08:55,600 --> 02:09:00,900 I am gonna select Malik. Davis running back to for the 2580 02:09:00,907 --> 02:09:02,700 Dallas Cowboys. Pretty sure I'm basically the 2581 02:09:02,708 --> 02:09:04,800 same thing, then just did. Yeah, you gotta keep playing 2582 02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:06,700 this game. Well, I'm just, I'm just 2583 02:09:06,800 --> 02:09:09,100 pounding the wall but I'm actually taking Bleak Davis. 2584 02:09:09,100 --> 02:09:11,500 Like I'm actually drafting a shit ton of Malik Davis because 2585 02:09:11,500 --> 02:09:14,800 I just I've gained it out really the same thing we did with Row. 2586 02:09:14,800 --> 02:09:17,900 Joe last year is we realize that he's not going to be active on 2587 02:09:17,900 --> 02:09:21,500 like once the Pacheco stuff started happening, so Raja Is 2588 02:09:21,500 --> 02:09:23,900 not going to be active on game days for special team. 2589 02:09:23,900 --> 02:09:26,200 So if he's the running back to, he's really got to be the 2590 02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:30,200 running back to God, love dues, van God, love this wall, running 2591 02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:33,900 back, favorite player in the NFL, very cool story, but he's 2592 02:09:33,900 --> 02:09:35,800 not big enough to play special teams. 2593 02:09:35,800 --> 02:09:39,100 So again, if he's going to make the team, he's really got to 2594 02:09:39,100 --> 02:09:42,200 make the team. I actually think the most likely 2595 02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:46,800 thing is that Pollard Vaughn and Davis are the game-day active 2596 02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:49,700 zandro. Joe is the break glass in case 2597 02:09:49,700 --> 02:09:53,200 of emergency same way. He was And the city all of which 2598 02:09:53,200 --> 02:09:57,000 to say, obviously this all gets submarine, if Ezekiel Elliott re 2599 02:09:57,000 --> 02:10:01,300 signs, there you go. But I think I think even so even 2600 02:10:01,300 --> 02:10:05,600 if in the city so zikri signs, I still think Zeke is the, or I 2601 02:10:05,600 --> 02:10:08,700 still think Willie Davis would be active as the third guy for 2602 02:10:08,700 --> 02:10:13,100 special teams because he was all of last year and I mean Zeke 2603 02:10:13,100 --> 02:10:14,600 sucks. I got he's a material, I don't 2604 02:10:14,600 --> 02:10:17,300 care about him anymore, Luke Davis looks good, like he looks 2605 02:10:17,300 --> 02:10:18,600 like he has some juice when he's out there. 2606 02:10:19,100 --> 02:10:21,300 Yeah he's just smaller than I thought he was. 2607 02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:24,200 He plays a little bit bigger but to look him up this offseason 2608 02:10:24,200 --> 02:10:26,200 and to find out that he's like 2005. 2609 02:10:26,200 --> 02:10:27,900 I was a little bit bummed. I thought he was a little bit of 2610 02:10:27,900 --> 02:10:31,300 a bigger pack like he's not going to fill the Zeke role in 2611 02:10:31,300 --> 02:10:33,900 any scenario. A to the fuck 2005 though some 2612 02:10:33,900 --> 02:10:35,600 of these lights are out of date. Yeah. 2613 02:10:35,600 --> 02:10:37,300 I mean he looked he looked bigger. 2614 02:10:37,400 --> 02:10:38,700 Yeah. Maybe as put on weight, it's 2615 02:10:38,700 --> 02:10:39,900 good call. Yeah. 2616 02:10:41,200 --> 02:10:43,900 All right guys. All right this is fun. 2617 02:10:44,700 --> 02:10:47,800 This was fun little old to our 10 min Edition. 2618 02:10:48,200 --> 02:10:50,600 Yeah, well we got you out of here, early Gretch. 2619 02:10:50,700 --> 02:10:57,400 Yeah. Anything to plug before we get 2620 02:10:57,400 --> 02:11:02,000 here. No, it's not a projection stuff. 2621 02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,900 It's dealing signals. I sent out a post about looking 2622 02:11:04,900 --> 02:11:07,400 back at my old projections yesterday. 2623 02:11:07,400 --> 02:11:09,200 I thought that was actually kind of an interesting bit of 2624 02:11:09,200 --> 02:11:11,000 research. I had done it previously at CBS 2625 02:11:11,000 --> 02:11:13,900 but not for a few years look at and how hard it is to get stuff 2626 02:11:13,900 --> 02:11:18,500 right on the team level and on, you know, on Project in a lot. 2627 02:11:18,500 --> 02:11:21,400 And I showed how a lot of my projections, followed the market 2628 02:11:21,400 --> 02:11:25,700 expectation, but yet you still way off and a lot of cases, it's 2629 02:11:25,700 --> 02:11:27,400 a good reminder, right now. I think when you're drafting all 2630 02:11:27,400 --> 02:11:29,500 these things were talking about, what we Spect that of these 2631 02:11:29,500 --> 02:11:33,100 teams could be wrong on about half the teams typically by a 2632 02:11:33,108 --> 02:11:35,600 good margin. So like being a little girl, 2633 02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:38,600 brain isn't crazy. And now we've been plenty of 2634 02:11:38,600 --> 02:11:41,100 Galbraith today. So it's a good reminder to be to 2635 02:11:41,100 --> 02:11:43,800 be willing to be loose. It is a good reminder. 2636 02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:46,200 I think like stuff happens in the end if we talk about that 2637 02:11:46,200 --> 02:11:48,800 with, you know, the chaos as it applies to the running back 2638 02:11:48,800 --> 02:11:52,200 position. But the chaos applies to a lot 2639 02:11:52,200 --> 02:11:55,500 of other things as well. So, I can are fine for like last 2640 02:11:55,500 --> 02:11:58,500 week I think or two weeks ago about the Ravens at the end of 2641 02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:03,500 it. 20:21 season when they were huge past funnel and you never 2642 02:12:03,500 --> 02:12:05,100 would expect that. But it was injuries. 2643 02:12:05,100 --> 02:12:07,000 Right injuries to the secondary to the defense. 2644 02:12:07,100 --> 02:12:09,700 Yeah, there's going to be some stuff like that, where certain 2645 02:12:09,700 --> 02:12:12,300 teams end up being completely different than what we expect 2646 02:12:12,400 --> 02:12:14,800 even if they didn't plan to be. Yeah, so I love that. 2647 02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:20,000 All right, guys. Watch if Jason was tonight, I'll 2648 02:12:20,000 --> 02:12:20,400 see you later.