All right ladies and gentlemen, our high stakes action rolls on
this week. Tonight we are drafting our
first Prime time draft on NFFC. This is a contest with a $1200
buy in in a $250,000 top prize. We're going to be drafting with
our buddies from the ship chasing Discord, the Buckeye
Boomers here tonight. On ship chasing.
We're off to the races. Let's go.
Pat Fryer Helmos. This is why This is why I'm hot.
Anita hint, a hand job. Fixer.
Site Jamar. And also play chase.
You can't handle the heat. It looks like we're finally
fits, boys. You're right.
Are righty. We got our guys, the Buckeye
boomers. It is of course, Josh down
there. We got Evan, of course, Gretch
and Pat. First off, Buckeye boomers.
How we feeling tonight, Evan? Oh, I'm feeling ready to go.
It's always a pleasure drafting with Josh and you guys
especially. So I'm ready to go.
Let's do it. We're.
Pick 6. Yeah, we're, we're, we're.
Moving, Yes, Josh, how are you feeling?
Feeling great. It's our third year attacking
these drafts so this year's a little different.
I got the chasing crane, you know, tire ready to go feeling,
feeling it for for this year, so.
There you go. This will get us what?
When we take this 250,000, you know, set aside that we have to
split it. But you know, that's a.
That's at least an. It's set aside right there.
I get 50K of it. No, if we cut you out.
It's not a great dot to. Me if I get a cut.
It just goes into the pool for chasing Karein, you know, It may
take a few years, but but you know, we'll just eat back until,
right? Yeah.
So we're drafting from the 10 hole here.
The pics are just ripping off Jefferson Chase, Tyree, Kill,
CMC, Diggs Cup, Kelsey CD, Lamb goes 81 more pick and then we
are up. Evan, where are you leaning
here? I mean right here, I do like
going running back. I was thinking be John Robinson.
The fact that Austin Eckler is still on the board here at 1:10
or definitely something to think about.
Yeah, yeah. And Josh, what did you guys, cuz
you guys had been, we set our Kds for this and you guys wanted
this slot specifically. Is this playing out how you
thought Eckler does go here? So we're on the clock.
I think lamb, lamb and Digg's going early is a bit of a
surprise. So I think really for me it's
it's it's Bijon. At this spot or taking one of
the receivers that we were targeting around this turn.
So I think, I think there's a big group in receivers for me in
here and I think some people have some preferences one way or
the other. But I think for me, bijon at
this point and then taking a receiver on the wrap probably be
my my target or my go to. I have the same thoughts if you
guys wanna add. Something to that I'm perfectly
comfortable with bijon. Yeah, and I know you guys have
been Eye and Bijon for a long time and that was part of
setting the KDS to get this ten spot here.
So let's let's go ahead and grab it.
I love it. Just straight up, not gonna let
me make the counter argument, huh?
It's like I'm not even gonna let you just.
Didn't you want me to? You want to make a counter
argument for six seconds of something that they've already
been decided on. They decided on like 3 weeks
ago. The Boober label is real.
We gotta start this. We gotta start this real quick.
These guys came in with the KDS hot.
You guys want to know listeners because Pat and Pete don't want
to argue with them as much as I do.
You wonder what their last KDS was the first fucking pick.
That's what the hell was their last choice on the KDS.
I've never seen anything like it.
They have the 1:10 as the top KDS.
They're like, I'm not here trying to get into the deaths
over the first round. Don't care about Justin
Jefferson. Just.
And it wasn't even Bijon that you were in love with.
It was a different running back. We're gonna boomer to all hell
in this draft. It's gonna be a blast.
The This is so gretch it is third round reversal.
So, so, Gretch, are we, are we overthinking the third round
reversal? Cuz I think that's, I think part
of that played into it. I think there's like 3 different
things considering. How we were trying to put
together the Kts and I do feel like we were trying to like
thread a needle and all of a sudden we ended up with 1-2 and
three at the lowest priority of our of our rankings.
So you know, I I looked at the third round or?
So. Who was going where in the pics
and and then after that it was like what's the preference in
like a draft room where I want to pick and so our on the clock.
Okay, we're back. Aman, Raw, A.J.
Brown, Garrett Wilson and Berkeley go here.
I'm into Devante Adams here. I think it's a pretty big drop
off between him and the waddle Devante Smith and Chris Olave
here, so I'm into Devante Adams. Scratch you got 40 seconds to
make the anti case to whatever they just said.
I already wrote this team off. I have one alone, a tier ahead
of Adams. Let's just boomer, Devante.
Adams. Like, who cares?
I mean career high in targets at age 30 last year career high, a
dot tied for the NFL lead in 40 plus yard receptions and 30 plus
yard receptions with two different receivers.
Like elite all time season for him, he's not going to back it
up. But I mean, let's let's slam it.
I like to buy. I think Devante's still a very
strong pick. Yeah, Bonte sounds great.
Thanks for thanks. All right, we start.
Oh, and his new quarterback hasn't completed more than like
12 passes of 20 plus air yards in a season.
I don't think like he can't throw down field.
That's. Aidan Oconda, We're going to be
starting by Week 8, all right? And he's going to air the ball
out, right? Preseason QB1.
Aidan Oconda taking over for this team.
So ETR has them above bijon, interestingly enough.
Has reject well Leone. Leone had him.
I think Leone, he had him on his bold predictions pod as I think
he said. Adam as a top four, top five
wide receiver again this year was his.
He's an alien. Let's just accept the fact that
he's an alien. He's very good.
Yes, but Gretch. Doesn't like Gretch.
Doesn't think Devonte Adams is good.
That's where we're at now. That's where the.
We're team. 10 That's not what I said.
I believe that's exactly what you said, Gretch.
No, he's very good. You had a legendary season last.
Year, the mark says you could have gone wide receiver in the
first, then Pollard. Yeah, that wasn't.
That was their initial plan. That was why you guys wanted.
So you guys asked my thoughts on if you're overthinking the KTS.
I don't think you were, but I do think the way that that drafts
set up this year and I've been pushing this in all of our
drafts and getting outvoted over and over and over again.
But you want to start wide receiver, Wide receiver, because
there's a lot of value in the running back.
Guys aren't the running back position.
You guys specifically wanted this back end to target running
backs and it wasn't just Bijon it was another one.
I I I would be okay with this in a KDS situation but I would do
it to start the restrate receivers and I think that would
be a great way to start 4-5 turn you get it running back and
potentially hit tight end. I think you could be one of the
really interesting build into the later rounds, but it was it
was more that you guys were were putting your stamp down on some
running backs of that turn. That was interesting.
Just that we did plan to go wide or see wide or see with Sean
Okay, yeah, that was McCaffrey. Fill in our laps there.
We were on board with that. That's right.
That was true.
So I think Evan and I talked about this quite a bit.
He came in Kevin Costner, Tony Pollock, no matter what.
You know, with it, with his attitude, right?
With it. It was I'm.
I didn't want to say it because he was still on the board, but
he just went. But yeah, then we traded down
you. Know that's fine, right.
Yeah, we traded down, right. We got the back and.
We traded down. I think my first comment to Evan
was if you want Pollard, you should want the 1:05 because you
can get a top five receiver and then the way to play Pollard is
to get him to fall to right where he went.
We could have a cup, Pollard start.
I thought he was gonna keep on going up.
That's my. Pollard would be very fun.
Yeah, that's what I fucking said from the beginning.
I you guys, you guys have jumped the shark here, not liking like
there's no reason digs or CD lambs should be going over
bijon. Bijon is an awesome pick here at
110. Everyone's lost their goddamn
minds. As.
Soon as we put the middle round picks in like the the second
bucket, you're like what the hell are you doing with 1-2 and
three? I was like.
I don't know what else are you supposed to do with it at that
point in time. We referred the back end of the
first round to the front like we didn't love the like what you'd
be getting at the back end of the second round we thought was
a wasteland. That's kind of weird.
Yeah, I some of it makes sense, but it is stylistically
hilarious. I don't want one was the last
option. I mean, that's like that's
probably never happened. We didn't put much thought into
that. But then so my my counter for
the people was I just started said you guys Justin Jefferson
highlights. That was like, we didn't, I
don't know, but we didn't want to pull up Higgins or pulling up
Calvin Ridley pulling up DK Metcalf.
That's what you'd be doing right now if we had a top three pick
and I just didn't love doing that.
Yeah, and then the third round reversal, we're getting, you
know, wrapped it again. So like I don't.
And I said yeah, let's worry about who we get in the second
and third round instead of this guy that.
Was my favorite part. I was like this has gone like.
There was like. Because people are too dug in
like I was. Like I wandered in.
I was like, oh, it's World War One.
And I was like my better back way.
I couldn't. Well, and spoiler the draft
bills and we don't even change the case.
Yes, state it's stated as it is so.
I also you hated the late 2nd, but we have the same issues at
the early 3rd and I would have rather gotten like we can't go
receiver here now the 14 receivers are off the board
right? Do we have a receiver we like
here? Yeah, Keenan Debo.
No. Yeah.
Next tier. Yeah, You love Keenan Gretch,
right? Yeah, I do.
I like him. I feel pretty strongly we should
take JT here. I didn't even realize JT was
still. Let's go, let's just, let's
fucking boomer it. Let's take seven straight
running backs. We're on the clock now.
Right. We should take JT.
Wait, it's next show? Do you like JT now versus the
running backs we can get at the 503?
I do, yeah. I I don't think like, I don't
think we're going to get Breese or like I think we're looking at
probably like well. Kind of thought Bree.
Aaron Jones or something. Breese, we're trying to make
news. 40 It's possible but. Bresall, Ken Walker Dobbins will
be there for us in the fifth round, I think definitely.
Ken Walker and Dobbins will be. Yeah, yeah, Breesall.
Breesall is in the sixth round in the last couple days on prime
time. I mean, I would take him too, to
be honest. I think JT and the at the three
or two is. We have 9 seconds, so it's it's
Keenan or JT. Get your guys to click click who
you want so. Keenan Yeah, all.
Right. We're going with the old
receivers and a young right. This it's such a.
I'm with you now, Gretch. That was that was that was one
of the easiest. They've planned this out.
This is how they wanted this to go.
They wanted these terrible players.
Since I've been in in a draft room and we went the other way,
so OK. They mapped out the first like
10 rounds, but yeah, they just came on the show with us to tell
us who they were gonna draft on our team.
Now you guys are being you guys are being assholes because you
guys are drafting. No seriously, you guys draft all
kinds of teams. Jonathan Taylor is the guy you
can take at this spot. When you have a large portfolio
of high stakes teams and you know the upside when you have
one team, having Jonathan Taylor on that team does not feel fun.
You guys are being fucking assholes to these guys.
Thank you is a great pick here. Thank you.
Yeah, Keenan Allen can't think of any reasons why he might tank
my my high stakes team. Given his long history of
hamstring injuries, that seems like very.
There's not a risk that Keenan Allen isn't going to play this
year. There's like 6 teams that are
calling the cults right now to work out a trend.
Did you say Jared Jonathan Taylor has a better health
history than Keenan Allen? Well, he's 24 years old, so I'm
willing to bet on his health over Kenya now.
I don't disagree with taking John Taylor there.
I think there's a ton of risk and if it's my one prime time
draft, I don't like having a large amount of money on John
Taylor invested and the running backs we'll be able to get in
the fifth round I think are very solid the last couple days in
the prime time ADP retail 603. Well, that's that's the part of
this that I think you guys could end up looking really sharp on
is if depending on the running backs that come to the 4-5 then.
I understand it's a small sample size, but the guys that we like,
Ken Walker, Dobbins, Reese Hall, those guys all go between our
fifth and sixth round pick. So I think they're gonna be
there in the fifth round for us. So that's why I like the two V
twos there and like if they weren't there, I would like
Jonathan Taylor. But the what we can get in the
fifth round I think makes a lot of sense.
And to be clear Josh and I'm I'm totally messing with you guys.
I think you guys are are with me on that.
Josh. I've known since I was at CBS.
We did a call together like a long long time ago.
Evan, I don't I haven't known you quite as long.
But I I know you guys are easy going.
I'm sorry if I'm coming off as an asshole.
I I am having a blast with this like this is this is gonna be
great. No, you're not.
You're fine. You're fine.
It's. But it's it's part of the, it's
part of the fun, right? Like, I think this year I was
listening to and like this part of the year is like some of my
favorite pods. Because you and Sean get into so
much redraft conversation that he just, he continues to like
remind me of things that we need to be doing in drafts.
You know, and I keep you know, I actually spent a kind of a
interesting summer for me. I have not done as much drafting
this summer as I have previous years.
I I moved states. I live in North Carolina now.
So I've spent the past two months.
I've been the past two months, kind of.
Disconnected a little bit from drafts until this early August.
So you know coming back in I've I've got maybe not as much
anchoring to ADP either you know as as some other people.
So I'm looking at it a little bit different you know in this
in this early August time frame. But you know, I think the, you
know some of this middle out build, some of the different
builds you can layer in based on these detours where player
profiles are at that we like over the years I think.
Yeah, it makes this just an interesting year overall with
what we're seeing we're. I don't remember a year like
this, like ever, where it's just like there's it's really like
profiles. It's like, where are the
profiles? It's not.
It's. It's like structural I guess,
but not like I'm used to. Right.
It's the most it's the most it's it's yeah, I agree with you with
that. But I don't think there has been
a year like this ever. I mean, I don't think it's just
that you don't remember it. I think this is easily the most.
Different and out of line ADP like like it's just it's been.
I mean 2022 season was very out of line in terms of a lot of the
stats and macro stuff, but the response has been really
fascinating in fancy football world.
The starts here we have three teams that get the elite
quarterback. So the Jefferson team goes
Hurts, the Tyree team goes Josh on and then the Kelsey team goes
Mahomes Taylor falls to 3/2 to the Derrick Henry owner.
So they start chase Henry Taylor and then grab Andrews.
We see Gibbs go ahead of Taylor and then it was a very wide
receiver heavy third round. Only two running back picks. 10
wide receiver picks here. And then the Eckler Chubb team
went Debo Samuel. Everyone else has at least two
wide receivers here. Not to be an asshole, but would
you guys gone with with Taylor, with with Cup and Pollard is a
star? Boyd's really falling great for
that five spot rock. How would you even have known?
We don't even know what we would have gotten if we had the KDS
set there. Don't even know.
Do you know how KDS works? It's it's randomized after if
everyone has the exact same price.
I don't. Think we had a good shot of
five, given that we didn't put it in very hard.
You guys, you guys if you. Had issues with this, you
should've talked. About it before, these are the
people you two that don't ever go in and set our KDS.
But now you have all kinds of thoughts about how to set KDS
here. Oh, I I immediately went in and
talked to them about it. And I told both of you in our
private background to go in there and comment because if you
disagreed with me, I was like, all right, fine, but I want to
know your thoughts and neither of you two came in there.
Yeah, this is on me and you P. Weird ones.
I'm not upset. I love this team.
I. Well, it's on me then.
Good team from any draft slot? It doesn't.
Give Gretch's do, he was he? He commented more on KDS than
I've ever seen. That sounds like.
You got to to your point Pete. Yeah, I have fun drafting from
any spot, but if you want me to start exactly.
Critically. Thinking about how I wanted to
rank these like it got weird so. No, I I don't disagree with you
guys on that point. At all.
I think it's very comfortable to draft from from these spots.
It was just the approach as well and sort of the player targets
already outlined and like Evan you were like one of the points
I was making is you were concerned in the late 2nd about
having to like pull the trigger on a T Higgins and late two do
you have Keenan ahead of T Higgins straight up and and Debo
because those you are comfortable at the early 3rd
with the Keenan Debo group. I think most people see that as
a pretty big teardrop at wide receiver, so that's part of the
they're. Pretty even for me.
They're pretty even. Got it.
So yeah, I mean there's some elements like that where we
probably should just talk through some of the player
targets and some of that stuff too.
Cuz like some of the reasons to not want the early range cuz of
what would be there at late two, late three.
Like we, I feel like we just got sort of in a worse spot in early
3, but. I don't I mean to Pat's point
like probably early three would have been like a tailor pick
from a pure. But you like you have been you
haven't done a whole bunch of of drafting this year and aren't as
tied to ADP which I mean I'm fine with that let's let's fire
let's let's I was I was serious and I was like let's draft a
full boomer team let's get some good ass you know just slam our
our our nuts down for. For talent.
Who? Do you guys like here is it?
We got the we got the running backs to come back, right we.
Got the running backs to come back.
If we're going receiver, I do like Christian Kirk.
You gotta say Johnson feels like a reach, but.
Those guys, those guys will probably be there in the 5th
like that tier. So yeah, I think we grab the
running back we like best here. So what are you guys?
I'm Breece. Are you etn or?
What do you Evan? Are you etn?
I'd be ETN over Breece just for injury related purposes, but.
I think Greece. I'm ETN of a Breece too,
personally. I think we get brief.
Yeah, I think Breece has a better chance of coming back.
So I would lean. Are we gonna Are we taking both
though, or do we want the receiver?
Yeah, I think it but. It sounds like there's an ETN
preference even regardless and. We just got Auto Priest.
Do I need to be in the?
Do I need to be in here? Josh making the.
Our discussions are going to like the last second.
We need to be ahead of this more.
Yeah, sorry, I have a lot of. You were the tiebreaker there,
Pete. Cuz it was, yeah.
He was the tiebreaker. You were the tiebreaker.
So you tiebreaked with auto draft.
Well, that's what Pat got his guy here.
Now Priest is, I think, if we were OK going both running back.
Yes, yes, we totally were OK going with either.
Brisa is still a strong pick there.
That's we're totally fine. I think we probably didn't want
to get them both. I mean, we could have.
That that was my concern is that we were kind of like we can,
Brisa will come back and then it's like, but we need the
receiver and it's like well then yeah, why don't we take the guy
we liked better, but which we do.
Yeah, I think the preference for me would have been to go.
IUK or London there, but they got, they got.
Pulled up, yeah. Quite a bit.
So yeah, IUK was going, you know, early 5th and so he got
pulled up quite a bit, yeah. Mclaurin falling hurts him or
hurts his chances of getting to someone.
I like how the chat is like freaking out over.
We were literally flipping a coin between 2 picks and then
the auto draft selected the the tiebreaker for us.
All right, Team 11 is gonna go Trevor Lawrence, most likely
here the Ridley Kirk stack. I mean I assume you will the our
team so far through 4 rounds Bijon, Devante Adams, Keenan
Allen and Breeze Hall and Evid. I said Christian Kirk and Deonte
Johnson might make it back. I was wrong.
Deonte Johnson comes off the board right here, but I still
think this is a really flat tier for for wide receiver.
I agree there. I mean, who would like receiver
right here? I mean, Mclaurin with this toe
injury is not great. I mean, Mclaurin thinks a
bummer. Honestly, Well, because of that
injury, I think you can go straight to John Watson.
I think we should take Yeah, well, that if you're okay with a
running back, Etn's an awesome pick.
I also know that we can be done at running back like for most of
the rest of the. Trip literally just be yeah cuz
this tier why receivers doesn't feel good.
This is a. Great value on ETN.
It's not like we can't survive. We can play 3 running backs,
yeah. Let's just go to etn.
And then we go to ETN. Yeah, I love the 5th is.
I love it. Wild.
It's wild. See, all is right in the world.
We get both of our targets at the floor.
Yeah, I mean, that is. Wild Pete is the guy in these
drafts. He's done more drafts than
anyone on stream. He knows how to navigate the
room. That's what he was doing when he
took briefs. Yeah, right.
Well, we'll see. Talk to me about navigating the
room of the 11th round. Michael Wilson.
No, absolutely not. Hang on, hang on.
Well this is the scenario where had we started three straight
early receivers from this back end draft slot, you would feel
really great about getting briefs and ETN this 4th and even
if it was Ken Walker like you guys were talking about liking
really interesting pocket for running back, so.
Yeah, immediate made a call, but for me because.
JT would have ruined the Yeah, funny how that works.
I'm. I was wrong and you were right.
OK. I'm sorry, I guess what What's
the two V2? It's it's JT.
And who would have been the wide receiver we took like Grab
Dotson maybe? Maybe Who would So so who would
have been the wide receiver? I'm trying to do a 2V2.
So tell me, Chris Godwin, maybe Godwin, Godwin.
So then you're looking at JT and Godwin versus Keenan and ETN on.
The our side yeah. Naji comes off the board.
JK Dobbins here too. And again that's like another
thing where like I'm I'm so obviously used to the underdog
drafts, but even on FFPC stuff like you don't see ETN and
Dobbins going that close together like basically ever
like Dobbins is normally a pretty big gap I.
Mean we got a good team. I really like this team.
I like this. Team we have, I think the ETN
falling value really helped get over kind of that wipe out of
receiver there and the 4th. So I think that really, yeah, it
really turns around what we can do with upside receivers
throughout a lot of this draft now.
You guys ready to be piss boys? They have no choice.
Now the I did want to answer, a few people didn't.
So the KDS, that stands for Kentucky Derby style.
It's not an auction thing. You just set and order your
preferences and so like if everyone, if only one person
wanted one and one person wanted to and went down the line, then
everyone would get what they want.
If multiple people want the same thing, then it's like randomized
to see who gets their desired slot.
So go ahead. Well, what's so funny about that
is they they literally draw and then they look at what the top
available on your list is for each person, because we were
there in the room for it for the 10K1 when they were drawing.
But we set 110 as our top preference and we don't know if
we were the first drawn team or if the 1st 8 drawn teams didn't
want 110 and we were the 9th drawn team.
We have no idea, and it's probably either or equally
likely as far as I don't think they're doing this manual with
the baseballs like Greg was doing at the live events.
Though that would be incredible if Greg was pulling out the
baseballs. Every one of these behind the
scenes. I wanna talk about this because
we mentioned Mclaurin, John says.
How far should Terry be falling? It doesn't seem it should be
this far. He does come off the board right
here. Like how are you after handling
Terry? Yeah, but my rankings, I updated
it to put these two as the next two receivers in this order.
Dotson, one spot ahead of Mclaurin, but they they were
both behind Chris Godwin for me, but right in this range behind
Deontay Johnson. I have them ahead of Chris
Christian Kirk. Like, yeah, right in this range
is where I wound up landing them, and I did put dots in one
spot ahead. Really.
I have McLaren ahead of Dots and still, but I guess the concern
that he could go on IR, I mean that that would really be rough.
So it, yeah. Yeah.
The big thing for me is that like I have ETN well ahead of
where I have like all these receivers.
So I just. That's why I was like.
I mean it. Would have been a misstep to
take Dawson over ETN. Like just straight up, I
wouldn't have liked that at all. The so the starting lineup
again, it's quarterback which is 6 point passing touchdown.
Which is why you do see some of these quarterbacks go earlier. 2
running backs, 3 wide receivers, one tight end, one flex, one
team kicker, one team defense. No tight end.
Premium Hawkinson goes here. Isn't Hawkinson.
He's been missing practice. Did I see something pop up today
where he has like some kind of issue?
That's I'm not getting paid enough.
Injury is what it is. Yeah.
So is Ken Walker still? Sorry to name someone.
We're not taking another running back, are we?
We? Can't do it.
We can't do it. No, the wow Berg.
Have you been, have people not been watching the streams this
year? Did you guys see what we did
with Sean last week? This doesn't feel like ship
tasting with all these running backs.
All we've been doing is drafting running backs all offseason.
Are the Buckeye Boomers for a reason?
All right. I've got a few guys loaded up
into the queue, So what are we? And then what are we thinking
from a ranking standpoint? Well, I OK, yeah, I'm with Josh
on the names he's putting into the chat, but let's hold off on
that. I'm saying it out loud too much.
I like those guys. Kenneth Walker finally goes
here. Wow, that cup team really
getting a nice run out. They took Aaron Jones, though.
We're fade in the middle, Rounds Gretchen.
Also, that's cheating Gretchen cuz originally we were all
going. Team Five.
So you've just said that over to say, well, he's like Madison
over Walker. That's his own fault.
It's a what have you done for me lately?
Kind of thing. Yeah.
What?
Potentially are we receiver or are we have any interested in
tight end? No, I think we, I think we gotta
go wide receiver. I'm good with that.
It's a star. I'm punching tight, but.
I mean, we might be flexing running back yet.
We will be flexing. Back, we'll start, so we need to
be flexing running back. I think if we think there's like
a clear tier break and the tight end jumps out.
But I don't think we're quite there yet with this wide
receiver group. So we're about to pick here in
the sixth round at 6:10. We've started Bijan, Devonte
Adams Keenan, Alan Breese Hall, Travis ETN.
Finally seeing some running backs come off the board here,
Alexander Madison, Kenneth Walker, Michael Pittman goes
Damien Pierce and we are on deck here.
We'll see what Team Nine does feel feel pretty good depending
on how this turn goes. We got, we got some names here
that look interesting to us, the team who's on the clock right
now, started Eckler, Chubb, Debo, Mike Williams, Lamar
Jackson. Wonder if they're tempted with a
little Baltimore stack here. And they are.
They take Mike Evans. Yes.
So it's. George Pickens, Yeah, I'm George
Pickens here. I think there's a clear pick
here. I think Pickens, it's finally
nice to get some, you know, youth on this, this Boomer team,
this Boomer wide receiver room here.
We're all in in agreement, yeah. What an easy pick.
Yeah, yeah. What about Brandon Cooks?
I don't know, Jalen. Tolbert, Jalen Tolbert's really
pushed in that receiver. Three, We need a veteran Hunter
on this team, I think. Do you know what I haven't heard
in a while? Has anyone from training camp
said George Pickens has that dog in him?
I just like the people who know Ball have stopped saying that
guy has that dog in him. I just realized people.
Who are too busy telling each other they know Ball.
They don't love it, yeah. Yeah, I'm wondering if people
think we know the ball or not based on this team.
I think maybe because of the older receivers, they might, I
don't know. We're taking right back to the
profiles that we love. So right after us, Gabe Davis
goes Team 12 has been going. No running backs yet.
They go A J. Brown, Garrett Wilson, T
Higgins, Justin Herbert, Deonte Johnson.
Look at this chat's coming around, guys.
You're winning them back over. This team is fire.
It is funny how when you do Hyper Fragile builds the chat,
they hate it and then they love it.
They do come around, right? Yeah, I.
Mean George Pickens is our #3 receiver.
A little spoiler alert. He made it into the top two
rounds for Shawn, right? So we got a pretty good upside
receiver with a lot of potential splash plays this year.
Yeah, all right. We so the turn team goes Elijah
Moore and Rashad White. I still think we're in a nice
range here for a wide receiver. And I do think like regard like
the wide receivers are probably going to get pretty wiped out by
the time we get back around. So this is a clear wide receiver
pick. It's kind of just picking our
our flavor here. The guy at the top of the queue
who's still available as Marquis Brown, I think we ended up
taking him in our first NFFC draft.
David Montgomery goes. So we're on the clock, guys.
I feel like this is a debate on the rookie wide receivers, but I
think we were all leaning one way.
Decision points JSN versus Jordan Addison that sounds like
most of you guys are JSN. But yeah, I mean finally I
didn't go, but the only reason I have paused even as a as a JSN
bowl is because we're a little behind that wide receiver and
wanting that early season production.
But I I think we recovered nicely getting pickings there.
I'm I'm obviously OK with JSN. I'm not going to turn that.
Down I would be jsn. For what the reason that you're
saying there is that we do have three really pretty strong
receivers. Yeah, I I, yeah, I think
especially one of the one of the other ways you can and I would
be JSN too okay we got it. One of the other ways that would
put the being behind the receiver thing is we need hits
at this point and JSN crushed in camp, absolutely lighting it up
in the preseason. Targets brought run off the
charts. Efficient plays on top of it.
Was, you know already crushed the combine this offseason
better than we thought. Was already a production based
player that we wanted to be in on.
Everything points to him being a star like an immediate star that
the hand injury sucks, but I don't think we can get the
upside. Addison could also hit, but I
don't think we can get the upside from his profile anywhere
else at receiver at this point. And so to get him to this build
now, I think it gives us, you know, four legit ceiling plays
that. We otherwise might not be able
to you know have gotten with basically any other pick at this
point. And one other thing too is like
cuz I know a lot of us have best ball brain like jsn even becomes
such a stronger pick in managed leagues here cuz someone was
asking like why Gabe Davis or Pickens over Gabe Davis.
I mean like Gabe Davis is gonna be a nightmare to start like the
even guessing is weak like best ball pick very fun best ball
pick like. But JSN, when he emerges, you
are gonna feel good about starting him.
The range of outcomes, right? In managed leagues, you gotta
think through the range of outcomes on a guy like Gabe
Davis. Like, what are the chances that
Gabe Davis has potential? Like push for the number one
role in terms of target earning it?
Like like basically zero. You know, damn close to zero.
Yeah. Whereas, like the bet on Pickens
is that his second year breakout adds an explosive element to the
offense. Maybe can't quite get to Deonte
Johnson target level because the dude's, you know, just racking
up underneath targets. But.
He's like actually emerges as like a key piece of this
offense, something that's driving the offense forward,
where Gabe profiles more of someone who benefits from the
offense. We're kind of hoping he's not as
bad as he looked last year. It's more of a best ball pick
cuz you're just like, I know he's on the Bills.
I know we'll have some weeks. I'm gonna put him on my team.
Pickens is a little riskier, but it's also, I think, a higher
upside way to play it. Yeah, so our team here through 7
rounds, Dijon, Devante Adams, Keenan Allen Reese Hall, Travis
Etn, George Pickens JSN and I know you guys, it's, you know,
it's not Week 17, but that Pickens JSN it'll just be a
little extra sweeter having those guys going against in the
playoffs spread. Yeah, yeah man, I might be a bad
host. Yes, guys, this is a managed
league. This is system managed league.
This is an NFC prime time. We did do a couple of best ball
drafts earlier on NFC last week we did the Silver Bullet which
is a single entry managed league.
But the rest of our drafts? On ship chasing Wednesday and
Thursday nights? These are all of our managed
leagues. A K waivers AK Stephanie helping
us out as she knows yes. Stephanie, we will be well.
Evan and I will be well prepared.
So you will be. Fine.
We'll be helping out, don't worry.
Exactly. And Pete, I think on top of this
being managed that even the the structure to get into the
shootout is different than what we played on with FFPC.
So it's only the top three from each league.
And the number one spot, it needs the both the top, the best
head to head record plus the highest points.
And then after that, it's highest points, highest points.
So we're really chasing, you know, each total points even
more than what you would see in FFPC because they split it up
between the head to head and. And best points, Yeah, and we
don't even have to have a playoff here.
So it's one through 14 before we get to the shootout.
General. FFBC is one through 12.
So like sometimes historically ship chasing, sometimes you know
falls behind early because on 0 historically, Evan, what do you
tell you historically falls behind early?
What kind? Of no, he's Yeah.
I mean. Who's being the asshole now,
Evan? Yeah, he's the fucking asshole.
I'm wrong? Am I wrong?
No, you're not wrong. Just don't.
Yeah. The regular season is longer.
So we can eat the. The zero from our seventh round
pick for a few weeks? That's not a big deal on FFP,
yeah. Am I wrong?
I'm just speaking the truth,
guys. Go on SO.
We're the one thing that I've noticed here, and Frank is
pointing this out. He's saying, like, why didn't
Team nine with Lamar Jackson take flowers Like you look
across the board here. There's not a lot of stacking
Hertz. No stack.
Deshaun Watson, no stack. Josh Allen, no stack.
Just in fields, No stack. There's the Mahomes Kelsey
stack. Borough no stack.
Lamar no stack. You do get the Lawrence double
stack and then Herbert no stack. Like people are not going out of
their way to to stack in this format.
Interesting. We I should also mention, I know
I have the the names obscured, but we got a lot of heavy
hitters in this draft. A lot of NFFC royalty, former
prime time champs, lots of distinguished drafters.
So a lot of people who know what they're doing tonight, probably
not auto drafting picks in the fourth round, but we have
recovered nicely. I would say hey.
That was a great. That was the auto draft of the
season right there. That's right.
Not both guys. Sky Moore in round seven.
Guys, roll the clip. We are all the way back, boys.
We are all the way back, Sky Moore.
Trey LON would have been a nice pick to follow us there.
Seems like he got pushed up a little bit in this draft, yeah.
What's the, what's the latest on on Burks?
Has there been any, like timeline updates?
I haven't seen anything about him in like a week, I feel like.
I just not really, no. I haven't seen really any
updates other than kind of week, you know, but week.
Three or something is in doubt. Yeah, some of the names we got.
I know Chad Schroeder's in this one.
We got Kim Slicher in this one, Nelson Zim in this one.
Who? Susa.
Yes, Susa. Yes.
So you unchecked the big sticker.
I was wondering why I was still showing that last summer.
Someone pointed that out to me last time cuz I was laughing and
like why are we obscuring the names if the big sticker just
reveals it? You can't unclick big sticker,
which actually helps me out too because I'd be trying to like
recap pics and like the sticker takes over the entire screen.
I can't even see the team. Man, so this round here, eighth
round, we're a couple picks away it goes.
Mile Sanders trailing Burke's Isaiah Pacheco.
Then we see a couple tight ends here, George Kittle and Dallas
Goddard with the James Connor sandwich in between.
Dalvin Cook comes off the board here to the team from the Seven
hole and we're up in a couple of picks here.
Little bit of a sweat, guys. Is a bit.
I mean, one thing is tough about this type of build is that you
don't have a ton of flexibility. Yeah, in terms of positional
stuff, you kind of need. This snipe is good.
This is the this this snipe is gonna hurt when it starts
stacking, yeah? This is man.
Bad. Yeah.
So we obviously had Quinton Johnston in the queue.
He almost makes it back. Which does.
Yeah, there's there's no way JSM would have made it back, but it
is interesting that. QJ was 2 picks away from making
it back. I don't see LGSM could have made
it back. Yeah, there's a yeah, there's a
good wire super pick here. The guy we want goes, which
you're not gonna like it. Does.
His name rhyme with OK, beautiful.
Yeah. This guy does not care about.
Are we running to the podium? We're.
Running to the podium. Running to the podium.
Do it for Shawn Bateman, right? We're talking about Bateman.
I'm always worried when no one says the name.
Can we talk about? The name we take clicks the
Darius Tony, it's. Like what?
The fuck? No.
I picked Tony. Alright guys.
Yeah, the Darius, Tony. Yeah, and Pat joked about Brandy
Cooks, but. As.
He made it all. The way out was.
That who it was. Evan Cooks.
I'm pretty sure that's who. No comment right now.
I would have been. That was my backup too.
I would have been in. That was my backup, yeah.
But Bateman. It was a very good.
Deal that's like that's a very like clear tier break right
there. I mean, I could see a starting
Bateman very early in the season, depending on how week
One shakes out. Yeah, Reese and JSN might not
necessarily be super startable right away.
We don't know. Yeah, for a while.
The I was just reading there was
an article about Dobbins and Bateman from camp and how.
They're both poised to have a big year.
And I think, Pat, we were talking about this this morning
on Basketball Breakfast how there was like early doubts
about those guys and had like basically moved their ADP down
like around around and a half. And it's just never recovered.
Like, even though there's no bad news on those guys anymore.
Yeah, I can't. I wanna, I like, I know there's
probably some GIF out there, some like viral type of thing.
I I don't. I don't know how to find it, and
I can't think of exactly what I'm looking for, but it's like
the market this summer has been. Well, hang on, I'll do my
analogy after this pick. Yeah, we probably think about
this pick here. I wouldn't want to discuss.
He was the Boomer pick I wanted, but honestly, I would take the
receiver at the top of the queue here.
We put him in the chat. It's sweet to think of.
This right now, Gretch. I don't have the queue up.
He doesn't have it, no. Sorry.
I have PTSD from this guy cuz he's been on all of our teams.
Yeah. All right.
Well, let's let's not do it then, we.
We could do it. I'm just.
But I thought him Who else do you want around here?
Yeah, who else? Well, Gretchen and I both like
Dobbs. OK, I'm.
I'm not a Dobbs. I think you could go Pat
Fryermouth, I think you could go to a in a six point for past TD
League. But yeah, I mean, I think Dobbs
is my receiver personally. I think a quarterback you like
will come back around if we like a different player here, yeah.
Yeah, I'm fine pushing quarterback.
For sure. I'd be fine with Firemuth.
His preseason stuff was a bit better in the second game.
I wasn't big on Firemuth here, but like the wide receivers we
could take. I mean, I don't Tony would be
the guy, but Josh is that. Tony would be my wide receiver,
yeah. Josh, you like Dobbs too?
I do, yeah. So we got a We're split.
We got a split. Room 3, Dobbs.
It's either Dobbs or Fryer Muth. It sounds like Cuz Tony's
getting out voted. Revote I I'm still Dobbs there.
Everybody. I need fryer.
Moves there, but Dobbs are made. Then you can go Dobbs, Dobbs are
Fryer Dobbs, Dobbs, Dobbs just fine.
There it is, red out of the clock.
I don't mind it later, that's totally fine.
I think it was sharp there to get a 6th receiver.
With with our sure snapped up like that.
Yeah, yeah, that snapped up. This this format devalues tight
end even more so beyond the scoring position too.
Just with the the start. Three wide receivers and we know
how deep tight end is there. Not that I think Firemuth was a
bad pick whatsoever. I just don't.
I think we're gonna have plenty of cracks at at tight end.
Josh and I discussed the tight end in this area.
We didn't love it, but based on how this room is gone with the
wide receivers that we could have taken inside of firing
with, I didn't hate it taking it there.
But yeah, Dobbs is totally fine. I'm content with that.
Wait, I did forget it's bed. So log gretch It's bed.
So log that I. Fired up Romeo W's.
Yes, I'm a young fly stunner. I'm the caucus in the gang and I
taught him I would do it. So I actually did it.
I was trying to get some money, but the thing came I would.
I'd like to take Romeo Dub so we get a little Minnesota bring
back in Week 7. 17 Play action. Let it up wide open downfields
are your guds, up are. Your Guds Gretch.
Talk about Gretch. Talk about Dobbs because he's
always he's a guy I get a ton of pushback on and he seems like a
little bit polarizing. Everyone super hyped up on
Musgrave and Read tell the people why they need to be more
excited about Dobbs. I mean, there's not really.
I thought he had a really intriguing prospect profile last
year as sort of a late round guy.
The the concern when I wrote about the targets prop run stuff
this offseason, cuz he did earn volume at a good, good rate.
He just wasn't very efficient. The concern for me was these day
three guys usually then don't get another opportunity if
they're not efficient, if they're not good in year one.
He isn't. I mean, the biggest thing for me
is you look at the Packers. Receiving corps.
They do not have a receiver that has been in the NFL longer than
last season. Their entire receiving corps is
2022 or 2023. It's either freshmen or
sophomores at the NFL level. Jobs is very clearly going to be
running a ton of routes on the outside.
He, like they've been talking about it all offseason, like him
and Watson are going to be the outside guys.
They got Reid. They immediately start talking
about Reid as a fulltime slot guy.
It seems like he's going to run a ton.
The young guys are going to play.
Musgrave is going to play. It's all 2022 and 2023 guys.
They're going to run a ton of routes.
And so, I mean, if you're going to have him out there running a
bunch of routes, he still has this intriguing profile.
He earned volume in a decent clip last year, pretty strong
target sprout run. Like I'm willing to then be back
in on the bet. The concern with a player like
this, a fourth round pick, a day three pick, is just that they're
not going to get the routes, but the routes seem really locked
in. Yeah, I I am concerned.
He's not that good. Yeah.
We do need to see the efficiency rebound yeah yeah.
He profiles as someone I want to be kind of in on more in like
the 11th round is like where kind of where I have them and so
I don't you know, it's fine. I think the best case forum for
this team for me would be like we're going to know right away
and if he's good, like that would really help us with JSN.
Whereas like Tony is another, he's like I'm adding another JSN
type guy, priest type guy, which is like how many, how many dudes
can we just sit on for three weeks or whatever.
And if you want like minor notes to look positive at, he wasn't
efficient last year during the season, mostly playing with
Rogers. He was efficient in the
preseason, playing with Jordan Love last year and there was all
this talk that Love loved him in camp last year and then this
year they he's been efficient again this preseason playing
with Jordan Love, so I mean those.
Scored a touchdown in the first game, Had a long, like a 40 yard
catch in the second game. I don't think they've played a
ton. They're starters, but when I've
watched them, like Love seems to still really like him and he's
thrown to him a decent amount. So I mean, hopefully there's
just a better connection, I guess, with a different
quarterback, the. Starting to think about?
Quarterback stuff. So team five, team six and us at
team 10 are the only teams without quarterbacks yet.
It's just something to think about here, too, especially if
like if team 5:00 and 6:00 grab quarterbacks here or whatever,
sure could have team double tap quarterback Daniel Jones goes
here. But I I do think we're getting
to a territory here where even pushing quarterback a little bit
more could make sense unless we have a guy we really like.
We also have a decent amount of stacking type stuff, whether you
know, you could even do like a Rogers Hall, obviously guys like
Love. Gina Best Ball, Best Ball Bros
weren't big fans with the other quarterback running back or no,
they love the quarterback running back stack.
That's right, great video. That was fantastic.
If anyone hasn't seen that yet, that was one of the best of the
offseason. Tomorrow manage League Bros 2023
videos coming out Yeah. I'm afraid for some of my KTS
quotes making making that video kicking off at the quarterback
running back was a real dagger because that's like one of those
ones. I don't even know how many times
I've I've touted it, but I've thought about it a lot.
So it's just like, oh God. Damn it, the I will say, you
know, looking at like tear breaks.
I guess you could maybe argue that we're already kind of
wiping through one here when when Jalen Warren and Tank
Bigsby come off the board, but there still is a couple of
running back names here. The other the other wide
receiver who's been falling like a rock and I don't know how much
you would want to sink the roster spot but Jamison Williams
is is here as well. I.
Don't like that we we talked about firemouth last time David,
and joke who's here. I'm not a joke who guy, but
that's I mean. I have definitely a breakdown to
Schultz and Chig and stuff from him.
Right. Ingram still Ohh.
Ingram went. Ohh, I would, yeah.
The the joke, who's the same thing as Fireman?
It's like I didn't want to take those guys in this range, but
it's what else are we taking in this bill besides a tight end?
It's like, right? Yeah.
What, What? Running back for me is just
another bet on. Well, we we we're not taking
running back here. Sorry.
No. We're no, we're not.
That that's my point. Like we doesn't do the rage.
We're taking running backs but we're not and then the wire
Sears are wiped out so. Yeah, I mean, Rashad Penny
shouldn't be still still here, but we we don't need to take it.
That's what I was looking at too, Gretch.
Yeah, I think I lean to Joku doesn't be in here either,
right? So.
Yeah, and the Joku seems like the best.
Yeah, yeah, pick to me. I'm with you guys, and it
doesn't preclude us from taking stabs on other tight ends
whatsoever. It just gives us a really nice
starter here out of the gate. Josh, Do you like that?
Well, I mean, what about receiver?
Pulling a receiver up here based on what's getting wiped out.
So I think both of these names that you have in the queue are
gonna be here in the beginning of the 11th.
I feel pretty strongly. About that, the second one
definitely will be. Okay, then what?
Do you think, Josh? I'm OK.
I'm OK going and joking here.
I mean if that if that's what we want to do.
I think it's it's really down to receiver and tied in for me.
Yeah. Yeah, and I think about, yeah,
cuz the the quarterback here is really flat and you know it is
nice here to kind of solidify the starting lineup a little
bit. And like I said, I I could still
envision us taking a second, even a third tight in
potentially. Yeah, there's some upside guys,
late that we can. Sneak in for sure.
Yeah, yeah, Team 9 does not care about hamstrings as DJ chart
comes off the board in the tenth round.
I'm guessing they missed that one.
It says we're on auto draft. Is that accurate?
Yeah. Why does that say that I'll turn
that off. It's off now.
Don't decay comes off. So we are waiting on the turn
team our team through 10 rounds we got 3 running backs, Bijon,
Brees Hall, Travis ETN. We are up to six wide receivers,
Devante Adams, Keenan Allen, George Pickson, George Pickens,
JSN Rashad Bateman and Romeo Dobbs.
And then we grabbed David Nijoku in the 10th there.
I mean can Kate going off one pic after in joke who feels like
pretty pretty good? That's that's the point.
Yes. For sure you'll love taking
those type of guys, but it's based on who else we could have
taken. I just don't think there's that
great of a bet around here. So I think the joke, you made a
lot of sense. All right, Do we want to go
quarterback here? There's two guys I love in the
in the queue or should we wait it out?
I'm certainly open to it. Yeah.
I I. Think there's a I think there's
a better chance the quarterbacks that we like come back than
there are the wide receivers. So I would just lean to the wide
receiver. But if you guys are getting
itchy about a. Quarterback I I would rather
push it and take a receiver here.
Yeah, I mean. The receivers were talking
about, I mean, so there's one that will probably that might
not make it back. I think that's the other one
here in the queue will come back I I'm.
Pretty. That's a long, Yeah.
That's a, that's a. That's a ways.
I'm putting. I just put another guy in the
queue that that's the guy I would.
He is mispriced right now. He should be gone.
We have 13 seconds to read. Can I sell you guys on Jonathan
Mingo here and we can. I'm fine with that.
I don't like I would be Mims over Mingo.
Hey, well, we. Didn't get enough?
Sorry, we didn't get enough time to to sort that out.
But. I think it was receiver over QB
there, I think. Yeah, Mims goes.
I didn't think Mims was coming back because the receivers were.
They're all getting. Pulled out Jesus.
So I think we were, to me, it was a receiver of our QB just
because of that, Yeah, and there's only one other person
without a QB. But to kind of and I'll let Pat
give his thing. But to kind of detach the best
ball brain from manage thing again as much as we like Mims.
Mims doesn't have #1 target upside on his offense, where he
has a 25 plus percent target share where you feel comfortable
starting him every week in a way that, like that path is like so
clear for Mingo now. The preseason usage is good,
Like he could be a guy you feel comfortable starting each week
and you're not just praying for a long touchdown.
Yeah, I mean, Mingo's very athletic.
He's got a lot of like holes and flaws in his prospect profile is
it's not a great prospect, but he has.
He's super athletic with second round draft capital.
And when you see guys that are going to get playing time right
away with that profile, like that, kind of even when it
doesn't work, it works. Like with Chase Claypool, you
know, like I just, I don't really see how they don't give
him a ton of run. And there's little Nuggets that
I think are really encouraging. Like it seems like based on Reed
and Nathan Yankee's recaps of the preseason stuff that DJ
Chark is now playing the X when it was thought that he might
play the Z and Terrace Marshall seems to have fallen down to 4th
on the depth chart And that all kind of points to Jonathan Mingo
playing Z. So they might be like
rearranging kind of other dudes roles with the idea of how do we
get Mingo where we think he plays the best.
So I think and feelings probably in the slot in in that 11
personnel. So, you know, maybe, maybe
feeling kicks the outside of Mingo costs off the field and 12
personnel to start the year. Maybe he's a rotational guy all
year, maybe he's just not good. But I do think he has that kind
of that path to being like a locked in starter down the
stretch. Yeah, his his preseason usage.
He ran around on 100% of Bryce Young's drop backs, posted a 40%
target share, and like the entire wide receiver room there
is banged up basically right now too.
Shark just got some right. The hamstring today, Yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah. I've been pretty the first, but
I'm coming around. Yeah, the so, so every team
except us now has a quarterback to the team 6, takes her
Cousins, team five has Daniel Jones.
I I think we'll feel good about being a little patient there at
quarterback. I agree.
I think that's the one that I was probably willing to push the
most out of all the like tight end and.
And QB of just the beans are flat here, so yeah.
And the other thing, same same with the tight end thing, right?
Like, it's not like we have to be 1 and done at quarterback.
We're definitely in the range where we can take, you know, an
upside flyer or whatever. Rashad Penny falls all the way
to 12/1. Goes after guys like most are
Jamal Williams, Taji Spears, Tyler Algier, Roshon Johnson.
I mean, I like all those names to an extent, but man, that
Rashad Penny fall feels feels like too much.
It does. I mean, and it's also like he's
one where I'd rather take, I'd rather take Flyers on him and
manage now like I I have. You're gonna know right away.
Yeah, we're gonna know. We're gonna know before the
season. We'll know before right away.
Almost, you know. Yeah.
Yeah, he's a super easy bell on talent.
Nick Bird, who's my resident Panthers insider, keeps really
close tabs on them, says Reich. Said Mingo has been the guy he's
been most impressed with this offseason.
There's legitimate chance he's the wide receiver one, getting
similar targets to DJ Moore with crazy yak ability.
Obviously a bullish reading there, but nice to hear Mingo's
having a good camp. That's a good case.
I took a Bryce Young. Offensive rookie of the year
future after preseason week one cuz I thought he looked pretty
comfortable relative to the other quarterbacks.
I mean obviously like Bijan's the favorite like obviously like
the running backs could win it. But I do think he's probably,
he's like 5:00 to 1:00, and I think he looked a lot more
comfortable in the preseason than Richardson and Stroud. 5:00
to 1:00 for rookie of the year. Yeah.
Wow. Yeah, that's a really good bet.
Yeah. Josh says Minko is a smash shark
and Marshall hurt. The only time I've seen feel it
selected was on Best Fault Brunch.
If you that. Is the best moment of Best Fault
Brunch. Holy cow Pat, if you based on
one of our group chats, it did seem like you watched the entire
thing. No, no, I and I wanted to.
I'm hoping that Tyler. I'm hoping that Tyler or someone
has watched the whole thing or maybe we could like break it up
and watch because I I mean, it's so long.
Like, what are we doing? But I mean, I guess they're
drafting a whole basketball team, is why it's so long.
But I scrolled around and I I swear to God, like every time I
watch something, it was hilarious.
It was like some it felt like every time I was hitting a
nugget where like I I got with like one where the guy's like,
yeah, we just jumped the shark with that pic and now we're
gonna fuck that shark like Jesus, man.
And then the the feeling misclick.
He's got so I pressed the wrong one.
He goes, Oh no, who do you think she goes feeling.
It's wild. I can't believe this exists.
It's just great. So did they you're saying they
serviced the audio listeners on that?
They sure did, yeah. They serviced the audio
listeners. I don't know if you read that,
maybe that's what I need to do. I need to watch the stream as
just audio only. I've thought about watching it
audio only to see yeah, and we could see the hell they might.
But then you get some of the live a little text that pops up
on the screen. Philadelphia Eagles off the
board. Their defense in the 12th round
here. Okay.
All right, we are about to be on the clock.
I I do think at this point like if we want to go with the the
quarterback, teams are starting to to grab their second
quarterback here. This seems like a perfectly fine
range if we do want to go that way.
Yeah, Kevin, says. Tyler's running the transcript.
Of this. Ohh, we're on the clock.
Sorry. Yeah, we, but we want to dip our
toe back into any running backs before we try to go around.
I mean 8 chain is pretty damn interesting at this at this
spot. We don't want to go quarterback
here or we want to wrap it. The only thing is Wilt, Lawrence
and Herbert teams. They could be.
Those aren't. Cloud I got at least two to
three QB targets here, so fair enough.
Yeah, Okay. Do you guys like a chain?
I have a weird QB target. You guys have that many?
Who is your target? We have 10 seconds Gino.
Gino Smith's My Guy here. Yeah, Gino.
All right then. Let's.
It sounds like we have, yeah, let's just do Gino then, cuz
it's. Let's take him, OK?
We. Just love taking injured guys to
find a shape. Yeah.
No, I think Gino. I guess there's yeah.
I think Gino's a good. There's one more decent one.
I'm not looking at the queue, but yeah, I feel like Gino's a
really good bet at this point. Yeah, we're.
All too with JSN. Yeah, particularly what the go
ahead. What about golf?
Yeah, he would have been a good one too.
Yeah. Yeah.
So between those two and like Wild Card and Richardson, I mean
I know the passing key concern that you have there, but.
Richardson would be borderline undraftable for me in this
format. I don't think people understand
that. He's like a legit bench risk
early. I know that's something we will
know early, so it would be OK that we could draft multiple
quarterbacks, but. It's that's.
I mean, they're not even playing him in the preseason.
I've talked to people that think they're just hiding them.
Every person that I talked to behind the scenes thinks that
we're going to see Gardner Minshew this year.
Like, like analysts. Which would be which would be
awesome, but. No one wants to say it because
he also has the athleticism where like he can break fancy
football and you don't want to be the guy who didn't take the
the Russian QB, but like legit smart analysts think he's going
to get benched and fairly quick. And in a format like this where
it's 20 yards per point and six point per passing TD, you need
passing yards and. And the whole issue is accuracy.
I mean, I think his rushing is going to play up and they're
going to be fine with his mobility, but there's like real
concern and most of the college football people were saying this
around the draft too, like his accuracy is a real concern.
Well just to be clear, I think Gretch, the main point you're
making this is 6 point passing TD and he can get absolutely.
That's the point in this format is where I'm specifically, yeah,
if I'm gonna take some bets, I'm gonna take him in a format where
rushing really plays up, right. That's where you take your
swings at him. Yeah, which I'm taking him in.
Best bond stuff. The whole the whole reason you
take Anthony Richardson is because of the rushing yards.
And if that is really mitigated by the scoring format, it's not
a cheat code. It just, like maybe gets him
close to the guys that throw a bunch of.
Right. So Gretchen's running back when
off the board we are we in their receiver here or?
Each same one too, man. I I honestly like the tight end
we have in the queue here if we're going to take another big
swing at an upside tight end. But that tight end is La Porta.
By the Yeah, yeah. I'm in, so I'm good.
I'm good taking Laporta. Yeah, let's do it, Yeah.
I like it again to like thinking through the managed element and
as much as like we've come to love all the late round tight
end value, the guys you're going to be actually super excited to
start that could realistically emerge as a top seven top tight
end weekly play. Like LaPorte is getting close to
being like the end of that list that can realistically do that.
Not say that the other Titans don't have that top five weekly
upside, but like a consistent role projection wise there.
It feels like La Porta is that guy.
So we have to do the Injoco pick over again.
Would we we still go over tight in there or we go back to
receiver at that point? I feel like that was kind of an
inflection point for us there. I feel good about that.
Yeah. I like having in Joku.
Yeah, I do. I do.
Too it's based on who we didn't have it like who around?
Like was she Rice maybe. I mean who right who around that
we taking? The right.
Well, it would have been. It would have been.
I mean, all these receivers in that 11th round were completely
pulled out, right? So.
It would have been Mims, probably, Right, Mims.
Yeah, because we take Mango and then Mims is there and we take
him. Right.
Something like that. Something like that, yeah.
And the joke Who has that upside to be top five guy?
I don't think anyone denies that.
I think one thing about our our build is that we have JSN.
So to be able to get it you know and Joku to help us early in the
season and you know he is, he is what he is, but he's not.
You know he he'll be startable for us and I think that helps.
I think that helps. This build is we've got a Breece
Hall, we've got a JSN, we've got some rookies.
So yeah, I think if we didn't have JSN, then just like, all
right, well, we really need to prioritize some late season
upside at wide receiver. So how did he shake out for you
Pat in that in the write up you did with the Titans when it came
to play action and blocking? For him, not particularly well
but not, but it was like one of the things where my conclusion
on that was that there's been this clear gap in ADP between.
It was Waller and now it's got her down to the next group and
that I think the market had that exactly right.
There is a clear gap between those profiles and the guys
above them, but that gap should probably even be bigger than it
was. Was kind of my feeling of like
I've been sitting there and taking the discount and taking
the Firemuth and Joku and even Ingram some, but feeling like,
you know, there should be more of a discount on these guys.
But then if you get Injoku the end of the tenth round, that is
more of a discount than we have typically gotten.
So yeah, I don't love him there, but it's just like he was a
value and there wasn't a ton else that was jumping out.
Yeah, I like how it it played out and after our whole Anthony
Richardson discussion he goes to pick after La Porta team six who
some of us weren't lusting over. He now has gone three straight
quarterbacks here. Kirk Cousins, Dak Prescott,
Jared Goff there. Yeah, Russell Wilson comes off
the board here and and Zeke as well at the end of the 13th
round. Have you guys been in the lab
with your kicker, team kicker and team defense strategy?
I have some thoughts. All right.
Yeah. Yeah, that's Evans world.
Yeah. Yeah.
Penn says he loves Team 10. That's our team Penn.
I don't know if he's messing around, but that's us.
Wow, the chat likes the the streaming team.
That's amazing. Well, what is the odds this is
the play, right? Because when they can see who
the team name is, they purposefully say they like other
teams, you know, because they know it'll get under our skin.
And so now we obscure it, and we don't reveal which team is ours.
And then they naturally come to love it.
It's quite the Yeah, exactly. Holy cow, man.
Taekwon Thornton. Jesus, I've let that one go, but
some people haven't. And that's saying you wonders
which team took Brisall? It was us.
Yeah, that's that's a good. Good bet.
I just folded an idea in the in the private chat to.
I like that. I like that idea.
Are we what are we thinking quarterback strategy wise?
Do you guys want to just ride with Gino or you want to double
up? I wouldn't mind getting another
quarterback, one preferably, that we think has some some
upside. Maybe guys work currently on
POP, a place that plays in Arizona.
He would certainly fit that bill.
Well, Paul McCoy is going to be working for underdog Evan pretty
soon. So I think he already is working
for underdog. I mean and even like you know a
guy like Kenny Pickett's probably going to go close to
undrafted in this. Guys like Sam Howell at the end
of the draft. I mean there are some like
upside cracks if we want. I don't think we have to go out
of our way to do any of them here at 1415.
Oh, Cassie. Kenny Pickett just goes, what a
mush. It's going to go undrafted and
then the Borough drafter takes him unstacked.
Here's all the QBs that I would take in the 14th round that go
undrafted, right? All right, maybe we do need to
take a quarterback now. Jesus.
We'll just side note, Geno Smith plays the Rams horrible defense
and then in the Dome against Detroit the first two weeks.
So those are two starts. Oh wow.
Yeah, So, yeah. Actually about it, yeah, I
think. I have lots of options I I I
think it's yeah, so. We both We don't need to really
do anything with the quarterback right now.
No, we're fine. Yeah, cuz I'm looking at the
board and everyone either has an elite quarterback in the first
two rounds or two quarterbacks except one team other than us.
The Daniel Jones team just has one and the Lawrence team, it
would be the. We're on the clock feed.
You wanna? You wanna take our guy?
On Jane Reed. Yeah.
So Jane Reed, are you guys into that?
100%, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
So this, this is again another thing that just I think works
out really well for us because from the Dobbs thing too, like
we were saying of just knowing out of the gate and if if Reed
has Dobbs dusted then then we're covering our our bases there at
a pretty cheap cost in the 14th there.
Jawan Johnson, Cole Comett and Dalton Schultz are the only
tight ends who have come off the board since we took La Porta.
Was it, was it Nick Underhill has been reporting about Jawan
Johnson as buzz starting to build on him.
What I've been seeing it. Is, yeah.
Yeah. There.
Carr's been talking him up. There was kind of that thing of
like, Oh no, he's not gonna play.
And I was like, or not not gonna play, but I thought he was
getting Dulcich, basically before we knew Dulcich was
getting Dulcich. Yeah, and that doesn't seem like
that really is the case. I mean, he, he probably won't be
out there for every snap, but he's, I think gonna get plenty
of of routes and stuff. Yeah, I like your guys' thought
of of you guys like going running back here.
In the 15th time. Yeah, last time we took a
running back was in the fifth round with.
The end oh, this. This was the thing Derek Carr
said to draft a bit Fantasy. That's that's the Boost
Levitan's brother narrative. All right, boomers, talk it
through which which running back are you guys eyeing here?
I think it's down to two. I think it's Chuba and I'm
interested in Chandler here. I think we're little Chandler
River, Cuba right now. I think based on the running
backs we have, Chandler feels like the bigger, just bigger
swing and so we having to Madison.
I think he has the clearer passages, a workforce role, but
like Cuba just feels like the the classic RB 2 that we'd be
drafting if we had one running it back up top.
But I like taking Chandlers for the bigger cut.
I'm Chandler. That's my next best running back
as well on my list. I like Chandler with you guys.
Yeah, let's do it, Yeah. Yeah, I like it.
Boom. All right, we grab Ty Chandler
here, right after Devin Singletary.
That's. One of those words where I was
like, you're like, you know, I saw in the private like, oh, we
like Chandler with you and like like what?
And then it's like, oh wait, yeah, no, that's fine.
Well, I wouldn't do that. I would take Cuba.
I like Cuba straight up over Chandler, but it's just based on
who we have up top, I don't think we're gonna find the need
to be starting. I really hope we're not starting
Cuba Hubbard in the pinch, because that means you have it
up top, right? And if you want it, you want to
get excited about the playoff Sprint 15 to 17.
Minnesota has the fifth highest average team total weeks through
15 through 17. They get a potential shootout
game at Cincian Week 15 and then back-to-back home Dome games
verse Detroit in Green Bay 1617. So like all those, like the
Minnesota, Detroit, you know, Dallas to a little bit of a
lesser extent. Like those their playoff
schedules are Sweet Dome, Dome, Dome and and there isn't a
difference too. And like one of the things I
like in, you know, the Colts, obviously.
I also have three Dome games. They're they're week 15 through
17 projected average, 19 points, fifth lowest in the league
compared to say, Minnesota, up at 23.58.
Arizona is hilarious. 15 points. Is there average projected total
weeks 15 through 17 for each game?
Minnesota. No.
Arizona at the lowest, yeah, yeah.
So Casey's almost double. They're at the top 27 and 1/4.
So can somebody sell me that on Michael Wilson and why he's
steaming up for us then? What is another Jacob?
Sanderson on our hands now the the thesis on Michael Wilson is
the Eagles are up, you know, 4 touchdowns at half and Michael
Wilson gets 8 targets of the second-half.
Yeah, the thesis on Michael Wilson is also.
Starting wide receivers in Best ball are valuable 18th round
picks. That's the whole thesis.
That's it, yeah. I have Michael.
If you do have them stacked, you know you can take them in the
20th round and put PC League. That's also it.
Live. Yeah.
I've triggered the Michael Wilson High today on Twitter.
Apparently you did. You did?
I did, yeah. What happened?
They did not like my MY1V1. With Michael Wilson.
So I said why draft Michael Wilson?
We can take a different receiver that's on the board.
I don't want to end the receiver because they haven't been
drafted yet. I.
Feel like with the way we built, we should take an elite kicker
and an elite D at some point, like we don't really need to be
taking a ton of running backs. We have actually kind of
rebounded at receiver depth and don't really, I mean, the
receivers we're gonna take from here on out, we're probably just
gonna cut. Like, I might as well just use
what we have built in to to take an elite kicker and elite D on
this team. I think there's one receiver
that I think makes sense in a managed format that we really
can't get somewhere else, so I think he would be my only other
preference over taking something elite kicker already here, so.
This threat is hilarious, Josh. Josh, don't you?
Every year you have like one or two tweets that just go like
mega viral. What was your one last year?
It was the Visca. It was the Visca video.
It was the Visca, right? Oh yeah, it was unusable for two
days. So this the replies against
curious why you're out on Wilson.
I love him and Josh goes yeah, said I'm out on him.
He goes curious why you have the other guy ahead of him and he
goes never said I did, yeah. It goes on like that from there.
So good. Yeah, we are starting to see
defenses come off the board here.
There are the Eagles in the 12th, Niners in the 14th,
Patriots in the 15th now Ravens and Steelers here in the 16th.
Team nine is on the clock, They take Rico Dowdle and now we are
OTC boys. What are we thinking do?
We wanna go do. We wanna roll the clip.
Gretch you follow? What's the clip?
I do it, do it. Yeah ohh.
This would be for the I don't know I didn't I didn't put
Ravens team kicker in the queue. I want I.
Want to overdid it to announce that?
Always roll that clip how we do it at.
Those I'll put. It in there, yeah.
I do it. For the business, Stephanie,
this is for you. Oh.
Bless up. Forgive us, Father, for our
sins. This is glorious.
I can't believe we don't take him every draft.
It is really hard not to take him.
Which has always been our issue. Evan, you know, calls us out for
maybe getting off to slow starts in the main event.
We also tend to take players, you know, maybe around ahead ADP
if we have a clip for them. I wanted the Chiefs kicker just
for the take week one in the every week starter but for the
clip in the bit equity. There you go.
All right, so we got to figure out here.
We got four more picks. Obviously one will be a defense.
It sounds like we're on board with taking a second
quarterback. So that leaves kind of two more
spots. Things seem it maybe like could
be another tight end, could be another running back, another
wide receiver. I guess we can kind of go in
either direction there. Kyler Murray does come off the
board here as yeah. I like the wide receiver that
Josh has floated because it's managed.
I think like, we just take a swing there, you know?
Yeah, easily cutable. Oh yeah, that's a good effect.
Not a lot of opportunity, you know for things out of here to
to really hit our our Stein. Do we have that clip?
Let's roll that clip too. We we have that clip.
I haven't seen that. Justin Ross, come on down.
See, I don't know why we don't have a Justin Ross clip, but I
want to roll that clip too. Justin Ross does feel like a
guy. We should have a clip.
For we should definitely have a clip for Justin Ross.
Today he's like, this guy's employed since 2012.
I'm like, dude. I want to kill Davis as as the
Justin Ross drum beat gets gets louder.
Yeah, I literally said I want, I wanna, I wanna, I wanna.
What did I say? I want to Justin Ross clip.
I wanna roll it again on this stream.
And then you started the clip that it was my voice saying.
Do I say the same thing? I just love Pat.
Me like he hasn't played since this guy said.
He hasn't played since 2012, dude.
I love my I was getting hit with facts of logic and my counter is
dude. I'm like, dude.
Dude, just vibe. Great call, Josh.
That's a great. Call I like that big for sure,
yeah. We haven't.
We don't have a clip yet for this, for this city.
But Devin was kind of noting that right after I announced on
ship chasing that I was moving to San Diego, it got hit by a
hurricane. Yeah, what is up with that?
The ship chasing mush now affecting various locales around
the country. Yeah.
God damn it, I'll bite on this chat.
Ross Not good fit for Chiefs offense, any other team and he's
a number one wide receiver. It's like the exact opposite.
There's like not a more wide open depth chart in all the
football outside of like New England.
I don't get that take. No, it's it's how he plays
against press coverage I think. This is a God.
I fucking don't know, Ball. Evan, at some point I'm gonna
call you out for floating all these dusty Lions players in the
chat. It's a free take a peek.
What is the what is going on with you today?
It's. We're gonna cut him anyway.
At this point, you can take a peek on literally anyone.
Literally anyone you're taking a peek on.
No. Like you.
See what happened in the first game?
They caught him in the first waver wire.
Run. Yeah, but Jamar Jefferson, Evan.
I did not float that. He floated his back up.
Craig Reynolds. It's a good idea guys.
Come on. Yeah, shout out to Chris, he
says. I'm gonna fix the audio on the
last clip. This is what happens.
See, people get upset with my rigorous editing.
Methodology. But then when you see it on the
big screen in front of 400 plus people watching, you want to
fine tune stuff and Nick is actually requesting a punch up
here. How do we not have any of the
national champions? There is a sick, one handed
national championship catch that he's not wrong about.
Should be on that clip. Well, I believe Pete said this
needs to be 15 seconds or shorter.
So, you know, let's. Let's I did that.
That Justin Ross clip was like, legitimately a full minute.
I was like, we got to get this down to 30 seconds.
But. Alex For a lot of reasons, Alex,
the Taekwon Thornton clip is never getting played again.
I am. I want a documentary of Pete
reviewing these clips. Yeah.
You know and just interviews with Pete about like why is this
clip. What do you think about this.
Oh the I let's. All right.
Let's talk to Tyquan Thornton clip.
I know Alex can handle this because I've met Alex it.
I mean, I didn't even give him edits for the clip because it
was so bad and I was like, I'm just like, not gonna play it.
No. No.
Well, we played. I think I played it once.
Wait, so the Taekwon Thornton clip was so bad it's not gonna
get played? You're right.
That seems pretty fitting. That seems pretty fitting.
Maybe that was the. Thesis of life.
I wanna float somewhere off the Quan.
The guy at 12 is the only one who doesn't have a D yet and the
Saints I I saw from Your Fantasy Life buddy Ian Harditz made a
case that they have a really good start to their schedule.
They have like multiple home games against like the Titans
and other not very good teams. They usually go reasonably high.
They play the Titans week one and then Bryce Young and the
Panthers Week 2. At the Panthers.
And then they play the Packers after that.
So I think I don't hate that. Yeah, and then they get the.
They get the box the week after that, and then the Patriots.
So there is a lot there. There's like.
Five weeks of Yeah, even the Texans are after that in week
six. Yeah, I mean, you can play them
like the first six weeks before you.
Put that in. Do you have any interest in
trying to grab a quarterback or not?
You wanna push that? I think we can push the
quarterback. Okay.
Cuz both these teams have two quarterbacks.
Could they take 3? Sure, but.
I don't think so. I'm I'm definitely I'm
definitely interested in Jordan Love in the 19th are you guys I.
Mean we haven't double stacked. So yeah, I mean the double stack
is sort of almost like we're just trying to find one guy and
it's not like we spent any draft capital on it.
So if there's someone else you guys like, I'm definitely open
to that. We also have Bryce Young stacked
with Mingo. Yeah, that's that's sort of the
way I'm thinking about Pat. I do think Love has looked
decent in the preseason, but I would.
Be meaningfully higher on howl as like an upside play for TB2
managed thing, that's fine. I agree.
That's what I wanted to feel you guys.
I do see some upside scenarios for Love, but I agree push comes
to shove. Howl's probably the the big
swing for upside. That's the way I feel about it,
is how the bigger swing in this passing, passing, heavy position
for the scoring. And I think the all the running
backs we have in the queue, sure maybe one or two get picked off,
but I think we just grabbed the the quarterback we want.
Here, Stafford's still there. I mean, yeah, you can do, like,
boring stuff like Stafford, but yeah, I would.
Wow. Look at the dulcher's fall.
Wow. Wow.
Yeah, goodness. All right, so.
I like Sam hell here. I think, I think Hal's yeah,
really fun for the QB two angle. Is there been?
Never mind. Yeah, I think.
How's the move? Yeah.
Yeah, cuz basically. Yeah, I do.
I've actually been hoping we would get some howl in manage
because I think he's a very fun manage league pick.
I think he could hit like I don't want to be in a position
where I have zero. Same howl entering the season
and. I think he's sort of a perfect
upside swing in this format as well.
You've made this defensive take before.
I was just giving you crap about.
It yeah, but in baseball I'm still pretty pretty out in Best
Ball cuz if he gets benched it just hurts you so much.
The Expendables. You know, I I don't know if
people are still doing bits or not.
No Atlanta correlation with Bijon.
This seems like it's in earnest. But this is not a a week 17
playoff format. It is a playoff Sprint, which is
why I was mentioning the week 15 through 17 schedule for the
Vikings there. But we don't have to worry
specifically about week 17 correlation here.
Also but we we have backed into it a little bit though with our
yeah yeah but I feel like people are preseason taking these extra
QBs when but when push comes to shove and waivers it's back at
QB is gonna be one of their first cuts.
So yeah, it We'll have plenty, plenty of time to figure it out
later on, too. Quarterback.
Always pops up on the wire. You don't think it will in draft
season. Then all of a sudden they pop
up. You picked up two off waivers
last year on. Like last year, I was picking up
Lawrence and Daniel Jones off waivers.
Like, yeah. Yeah.
You never know what's gonna happen.
Gino Smith is what Gino Smith, Lawrence, Daniel Jones all
smashes off waivers fields. Was cut in a lot of leagues last
year. Fields.
Exactly fields was. Cut I Holy cow.
I just forgot about that. I remember that.
What was it like around six or seven?
Everyone was just like throwing in the towel.
He was bad start the year. He was bad to start the year.
They didn't do any design runs until the New England game and
then suddenly they were doing like 10 design runs a game and
this rushing exploded. His scoring was actually like
legit. Not very.
I think I caught him in a main event.
Yeah, he was going like, which is very late as well.
He didn't have a 20 point game until Week 6 and then.
And week seven was the New England game.
From that point on, he didn't have a game under 25 until Week
16. It's like he literally just
flipped his scoring on its head. Wow.
The now that we are, we're we're done with wide receivers.
How do we feel that we did recovering here?
That at wide receiver after three running backs to the first
five rounds, Devante Adams, Keenan Allen, George Pickens,
Jsn Rashad Bateman, Romeo Dobbs, Jonathan Mingo, Jaden Reed and
Justin Ross. I think we have two guys like
Adams and Alan that are just straight up starters every week
and then we have enough upside profiles throughout the rest of
the draft that it just seems like a decent wide receiver
room. Obviously not a normal shift
chasing wide receiver room, but I think it's totally, totally
valuable room we got. Yeah, I like how it turned out a
lot. Yeah, right.
You wanna make sure you have enough upside at the position
and that's the thing that gets taken away.
And I think that's why the JSN Pick was just so clutch.
We've got, yeah, we're gonna be able to, we'll be okay early
season at wide receiver and at running back, even though we
have Breece Hall too. And then it's just like, you
know, it's easy to forget. When it's August and
everything's going to work out and all your takes are still
good and you know, there's been a few injuries, but nothing,
nothing huge. But like, dude, when it's like
week 7:00 and you're just like, God, give me some upside, give
me something that I feel excited about, you know, it's like we
have, we have Reese Hall, like coming off by, you know,
thinking he's going to get a bigger workload.
Jsn's been healthy for four weeks looking great.
Like that's that's just going to feel awesome.
Yeah, I'm happy we kept on taking swings at upside wide
receivers and not going with like the Jacoby Meyers or Tyler
Boyd types. Just to like think we need some
early season production. I'm happy we just kept on taking
swings. So I think it's the way to
approach it. For sure, yeah, yeah.
I was looking at the GO Bills team that won last year too and
it is like it's a reminder of like these teams are not like
it's not best ball this this is not the team we win.
It won't be this group of. Guys, it'll be some of these
guys and other guys, you know, so they're.
Just like J Jones, J Jones coming up waivers last year, you
know guys that were impactful for them, so.
Yeah, yeah, if you saw their board, like this team did not
win the main event, like there's no way.
But yeah, things happen every season, so.
What do you guys think with this last pick?
I feel like a running back that we do think.
Has like contingent upside that something could break in their
favor over the next couple weeks?
I like the the right back. We have in the queue the 1st.
One. Which one?
We're on the clock. Yeah, on Jackson, I think if
John Taylor is traded, he showed last year that he has, you know,
25 point games in his range. If Taylor's out, he wasn't great
on the stretch, but you know. I'm fine with that, especially I
haven't been as interested in him in like the half point PPR
stuff, but. You know what?
Did he have a? 40s and I'm sure about multiple
rounds a lot. Of rounds.
Any other suggestions guys for a random flyer?
I really like that call. Yeah, I like that call too.
I moved them up actually into a tier with some of these other
dudes that already went that I liked for a late round.
They went a long time ago. So yeah, I mean on that I have
him in a tier with like Zamir White and Kiante Ingram and Rico
Dowdl, who I've started to mix in in the final round in
basketball like. Those guys won the 15th and 16th
round in this one. Zimir White went even higher.
I think. Yeah, he won the 12th.
Like, yeah, Jackson's a good, good call in a similar thing.
Yep. Gretch, what are you doing with
the, with the Bengals backs, with the Chris Evans stuff?
I moved them out of that tier lower and I used to have Chase
Brown and Trayvon Williams there and now I just don't know what
to do cuz I don't think Evan's really probably has three down
upside. So I have all three of them
back-to-back to back, lower than like a Deon Jackson.
So yeah, that's like the hardest one to call for me.
It's so hard. One thing about the Deion
Jackson stuff is that, like Jacob Sanderson mentioned this
and I I forget who as well. Another guy knows the cults
really well. They, just like Chris Ballard
is, is likely to just stick with his young players as opposed to
bringing in free agents. Even, you know, if they trade JT
you'd be like they have to assign someone, but it's
possible they don't. They also already have Kenyan
Drake there too, so they might feel.
Frightened, right? Guys, they have depth, yeah.
The team. Is in the books pulled up the
roster view here for us to to view it by position Geno Smith
and Sam Howell at quarterback. Bijon Breese Hall.
Travis ETN Ty Chandler Deon Jackson at running back Devonte
Adams. Kenan Allen.
George Pickens. JSN Rashad Bateman.
Romeo Dobbs. Jonathan Mingo, Jaden Reed,
Justin Ross at wide receiver, David Nijoku and Sam Laporta at
tight end, team kicker roll the clip Baltimore Ravens and team
defense, New Orleans Saints. Let's start with Evan here.
I know we had some controversial selections at the top.
Do you think we landed the plane successfully despite not getting
your guy, Craig Reynolds? I think this team turned out
very well. Obviously taking 3 running backs
in the 1st 5 picks was not in my plan or Josh's plan at all.
But I do like taking 3 running backs when they're the three
running backs with great prospect profiles that we all
love. So I do think we also recovered
very well with the types of wide receivers that we drafted
throughout the rest of the draft.
I think this team turned out very well.
Josh, how about you? 2023 is not the year of the 0RB
drafter is the year of the profile drafter.
We got the profiles we like. We got the upside in the
receivers and in the running backs.
You know, we got to drop the clip with the Ravens kicker and
Justin Tucker. I think this team is poised for
a good year and excited to see what we can do to lead it to a
championship. You really might need to make
that managed league video now. With all the cliches, yeah.
I think this team slaps this is exactly what I wanted to do.
I mean we were arguing a little bit before and even during, I
mean just to like backtrack on that a little.
Like a big part of my perspective was that we would
like the running backs in the four or five range and then what
we could do from there on I. Don't love Devonte Adams.
I don't, I don't necessarily think Bijon was the right pick
at the top, but I think they can be right.
They're not bad players, obviously.
It's not like I have them ranked like 100th overall.
Like obviously they can be right.
And if they're right, if Bijon and Adams and Keenan are right,
I think we built like the perfect team beyond that.
But I think Breeze, ETN, JSN, Laporta even like we have some
really interesting ceiling plays at a lot of different spots.
It's a I think this team, this team Fox.
For sure. That that was the thing that for
me. You know, obviously the first
few picks we were wrestling with some scenarios, but then like a
lot of the other picks felt pretty natural like hey, this is
a wide receiver pick. Rashad Bateman falls here.
Hey this is now when we zig back to running back, hey, LaPorte is
like the last true upside tied in profile here.
Like I I really like how that played out.
Pat, what about you? Yeah, I just think that this
year probably one way or another's gonna be defined by.
What these backs in kind of the 3rd to to 6th do, because I
think it goes down to Dobbins where it's like it's just not.
We've never seen this really. We're like these types of
profiles and I think on ship chasing, right.
We've often complained about some of these profiles getting
going way too high. But like, it's weird too because
like Myles Sanders is kind of the guy and Alexander Madison
and that's generally the profile.
I feel like it's overdrafted in there.
They're still in the 6th. Like, it's not like they're all
going much later. Although, you know you got your
James Connor going going down in the 8th or 7th or 8th or
whatever, but it is still. It's just like I'm the idea that
you can skip on Jonathan Taylor and then still get Breece Hall
and Travis Etn at the four and five is it's just not normal.
Like, that's just crazy to me. So yeah, the the pick for me was
like, how the hell are we going to pass on JT here?
Well, that's how. Because this year allows you to
get Travis Etn, who is on a really good offense, is going to
play from the jump. His only competition for snaps
is a rookie. He can catch the ball, probably
get used enough, but if they were to use him, he'd be good at
it like he was in college. He's an explosive runner.
He's a consistent runner. I think some of the goal line
stuff is pretty overblown with him.
I think he's totally capable and short yardage did a really high
success rate last year. Yeah, you get him in the fifth
round. I mean that kind of changes what
you need to do in the early rounds a little bit.
Yeah, it is interesting too. Like, like you were saying, like
so many of our teams in previous years, it would have been the
Bijon, Breeze, Hall, ETN would have bet all of our early wide
receivers and then our late picks where we're taking Dobbs,
Mingo, Read Ross that would have bet our zero RB targets.
It's like it's flipped now where guys like Mingo, where they're
going, were far more attractive than like the running back
profiles there. You know, at that range it's
like almost flipped where kind of you get excited about the
true breakout profiles We have JSN.
So JSN, it's a great team. Makes everything, everything
better here. Yeah, I I do really like how
this turned out. I guess if like if you were to
compare us positionally, you know, to the other teams, I mean
quarterback is probably the only.
Position where we're maybe like weak relative to the field and
even then in this format I think we're gonna have so many chances
to either upgrade these guys or hit a breakout with Howl or on
the waiver or whatever. I I feel like that is the one
spot I am OK being a little weaker and even with the six
point passing TD. In six point passing, TD Gina
Smith was a fifth last year and he has better weapons and a
better offense going into this year.
So Yep. And I genuinely like the howl
pick because like we'll yeah, we'll know if he's good.
Like because I part of the reason I'm worried about him in
Best Ball is like, I think he has to be pretty good to keep
the job because like maybe the team's not very good and the
coach is on the hot seat. But like that's another like he,
if he's keeping the job, it's probably because he's playing
awesome. We're excited to have.
Yep. Beautiful.
This is our first prime time draft of the season.
Next Wednesday night, another 8:00 PM draft will be doing
another NFFC prime time. That'll be with our buddy Davis
Maddock. That is going to be a ton of
fun. And then we have a FFPC draft
tomorrow night with everyone's favorite crack rock that is
going to be at 10:00 PM. Tomorrow night, Crack Rock will
be joining us, so that will be a ton of fun.
And then the following week, on Tuesday, we're doing an NFFC,
the $2500 Super League with Leone.
And then we head out to Vegas on the Thursday before the season
starts. So drafting season is flying
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We really appreciate all they're doing for us, including helping
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Definitely give it a shot. You can create an account.
They do have contests at all different price levels there and
it is fun to to mix up the format there.
You can enjoy the six point passing TD, the third round
reversal, all of that good stuff here.
Buckeye Boomers, we really appreciate you guys joining us
tonight for another fun draft. It's become an annual tradition.
I love it. Yeah, I really, really enjoyed
it. Hopefully we can, you know,
continue the success we've had in the previous years and you
know Chase, Corrine, now we're just trying to trying to just
chunk down those winnings to get there.
Look at that. The chasing Corrine.
Sure, I mean it. I love having the little I could
just throw out of Pat's face here, too.
Perfect. Put me on the bow.
Yeah, exactly. Lots of rounded edits for that
design. Was there?
Yeah, there. Was as I mean Gretchen.
Gretchen knows from our I love wide receiver shirt.
I mean, nothing around here is done easily.
There's meticulous levels of revisions to you.
I really like where we got on the I Love wide receiver shirt.
I feel like that was a good. Collaboration I am.
I've been too busy. I am really slacking on ordering
that stuff. But I gotta, I gotta, I gotta
get here before we go to to Vegas.
I will say too, I think I mentioned this on Best Ball
Breakfast, but I did. People requested pint glass.
It was Kevin Tompkins who was like, get these.
I found out that they were now available for me.
So we do have, if you want a ship chasing a pint glass here,
that's great, That's. Nice.
Yeah, you can get those. We got randomized or Best ball
breakfast, but I'll drop a link here.
We have the full ship chasing. Section here so you can get the
chasing Kerrain that Josh is wearing.
The I love wide receivers. Willis just asked me to do a
T-shirt version. I think the black looks pretty
pretty good there. You guys can check those out in
the store. Gretch, tell people about
stealing signals, because you have just been putting out just
a tidal wave of content lately that I've really been enjoying.
It's hard to keep up. Just just a lot of stuff.
A lot of a lot of draft season stuff right now.
Kind of hold back and and then just blow my load.
Are we, are we doing that? That's for work type of phrasing
at this time of year. But yeah, rankings, tears
targets and fades for every position.
A lot of strategy stuff. A lot of looks at recent drafts
and talking through pick by pick stuff.
Had another strategy post today. Yeah, it's been fun.
It's been fun over there. Firing off a lot right now.
Yeah, it's been an awesome read. And Pat, I believe, Did you say
is legendary? Upside articles Tomorrow,
Tomorrow. I'm gonna be finishing it up
right now. Got some final edits to do.
It's fun. Dome games.
Get a get a shout. There's a few you know.
Wow. How many, how many words are we
looking at here for this? It's like it's under 10K under.
10K that's light work. That's a light work, bro.
Hey man, I travel the future and I literally see what happens and
I'm pretty sure you guys want the details.
Yeah, it is an awesome time for fantasy content right now.
So there's some interesting Nuggets.
Yeah, to get into 2024 ADP. Just a little little fun.
Sean just published his first part of his Zero RB Countdown
list, running backs 15 through 11.
You got stealing signals. We got the legendary upside, all
kinds of good stuff here. So make sure you guys are
subscribed to the channel. Like I said, we'll be back
tomorrow night. It's a 10:00 PM Eastern draft.
I'm going to be doing a randomizer draft with Leone a
little earlier in the evening on my channel at 7:00 PM.
If you're looking for a quasi double header and catch
randomizer with Leone at 7, draft with crack rock at 10.
We haven't like huddled too much with crack rock, so it could be.
Another adventurous time, depending on if he's as faded as
he was last year. I mean, crack rock since the
last time we hung out with him has become like, no joke, a
political reporter. Like he's breaking stories.
Right.
Yeah, exactly. And I did just.
My guy Chris hooked me up with the thumbnail.
I need to get that event up, but grimace is on the thumbnail, I
assure you. Also, since we've done the whole
thing with Crack Rock and we have to ask him about it, like
the whole Grimace Shake thing at McDonald's became a viral trend.
Were you guys aware of this purple milkshake that became a
whole TikTok trend? No.
All right. Wow.
Was it because of us? No, no it's not.
Listen, the Boomer draft. We're not.
Yeah, exactly. Ryan says he reaches his rate
limit immediately after reading Pat and Bev.
Yeah, he'll chew right through all of that.
All right, appreciate you guys. Make sure you're subscribed to
this channel so you don't miss our upcoming draft streams.
And I will. I'll do one more tease here,
Gretch. Pat and I have not announced it
yet, but we're gonna have some big in season plans.
Probably. I think we need to huddle and
figure it out. I wanna get a little video made,
but we'll be announcing that probably in the next week or so
in season. It is going to be a very fun
what? Would you call changes?
Change pivot. So pivots to the in season
programming, yeah. Slight pivot.
That's right. Stay tuned for that.
Appreciate you guys. Thank you again to Josh and
Evan. Always a blasting to draft with
you guys. Appreciate you guys in the chat.
Even though you hated the team at first, we knew we'd win you
back over. We'll see you guys.