1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,000 All right, Ship chasing playoff week finale. 2 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:08,680 We got Leone here, maybe Dink swinging by if he can swing it 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:11,080 in a bit. And this is our last show of the 4 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,560 week. We like to kind of get some 5 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:15,160 final thoughts here. I'm curious from you guys as 6 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:16,400 well, some of your favorite plays. 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,560 We'll talk it through our favorite strategic angles after 8 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:22,360 pouring over all of the details and the projections for this 9 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,480 past week. And then we'll wrap up with one 10 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,080 final lineup build and send everyone on their way to build 11 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,640 their teams for the contest and win that $1,000,000. 12 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,440 I'm Pete with Gretch and Pat and Leonie. 13 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:40,040 Let's do it. Pat Fryer, Helmo. 14 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,160 This is what This is what I'm Pat. 15 00:00:43,160 --> 00:00:45,560 Anita hand job. Fix your sight. 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Jamar Alpha play Chase. You. 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:54,080 Can't handle the heat. It looks like we're finally at 18 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:54,840 this. Point you're right. 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:03,160 All. Right. 20 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,400 Welcome back. Long time no see for Leone. 21 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,760 We got Gretch, we got Pat. You finishing up dinner? 22 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,000 Starting dinner six O 5. Normally eating some popcorn and 23 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,120 drinking high noon, settling in for for a very fun night. 24 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,480 Wow, there you go, Gretch. How you doing? 25 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:23,920 Good. Good. 26 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,520 And then Britt just came in and asked if I can watch TV for 10 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,920 minutes on the stream. So. 28 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:37,560 The vibe shifted hard. Leonie, how are you doing, man? 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:39,880 I'm doing well. I'm excited. 30 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:45,880 Yes, it's you know, this is always Business Today, this this 31 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:49,960 show, it's like the first time we did it, it was I feel like we 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:52,760 all got drunk and it was like this grand old time. 33 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,320 And then every year we've gotten older and wiser and realize how 34 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,920 long it takes us to make our lineups after this. 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,040 And so then I feel like we've matured is basically what what? 36 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,000 I haven't, no. I I got a whole. 37 00:02:05,080 --> 00:02:07,800 I thought we were doing it like before. 38 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,720 No, you're. Little child. 39 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,880 Yeah, I was debating it, but I made the decision to do, you 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,960 know, dry January and maybe even longer, just kind of get rid of 41 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,320 alcohol for a while here. So I was like, you know, I'm not 42 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,280 going to give that up 10 days into the into the new year for a 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:25,000 stream. It's very. 44 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,400 Mature of you. There you go. 45 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:31,640 I mean, it was, it was 5050. If we win this time, if we win 46 00:02:31,640 --> 00:02:33,840 this year, you just, you can have her drink your dad. 47 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:38,320 I will. Yeah. 48 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,920 I'll join you. If we win, I'll have one very 49 00:02:40,920 --> 00:02:43,280 expensive bottle of champagne and then never drink again. 50 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:45,600 How about that? It can be the rule. 51 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,440 I keep living, my life is normal. 52 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:51,800 I mean, that's kind of bold there, Peter. 53 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,600 Do you? I mean a lack of faith in US. 54 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:58,640 No, I, I actually was just talking to Davis about this. 55 00:02:58,640 --> 00:03:02,560 We recorded like a take cast New Year's resolutions thing and I, 56 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,880 I said, I think within like the next year or two, I'll quit 57 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,720 alcohol for good. I got, I got to work my way 58 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,240 there. I'm not quite there, but I, I 59 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,680 would like to get to that point anyways. 60 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,440 We could save that. You can go watch Davis and I on 61 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,800 the take cast if you want to hear that. 62 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,920 Let let's start kind of where we did last night. 63 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,360 You know, Pat, as far as kind of tweaks you've made to ownership 64 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:27,720 projections, any shifts that you find, you know, meaningful 65 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,200 enough to to discuss. I know you've been grinding a 66 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:32,840 ton of content and kind of just hearing, you know what the 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:39,400 sentiment is out there. Yeah, I, I'm kind of, I, I 68 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:44,040 fiddled with the quarterbacks a little bit past the top two. 69 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:47,760 I mean, it's pretty obvious that it'll be Alan and Lamar. 70 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:52,400 That's like that's just a guarantee, but how people play 71 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,560 it with Hertz if they sprinkle in the homes and at what rate 72 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Daniels does he catch any all that stuff and that the general, 73 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,960 I kind of moved Hertz down a little bit from last night and I 74 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,000 moved the other two guys up a hair. 75 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:11,480 But I think that that is going to be that's going to be 76 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,840 interesting to me to see is obviously Alan and Lamar are 77 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,600 going to capture a gigantic share of the ownership. 78 00:04:18,079 --> 00:04:20,040 But then how else do people play it? 79 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:22,079 I think will be really interesting. 80 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:27,200 Yeah, yeah, cuz they're it is interesting. 81 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:31,120 You know, if it was just like Lamar and Allen and then a bunch 82 00:04:31,120 --> 00:04:33,240 of pocket passers, you know, people would probably get 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,000 spooked off of it. But you can really tell yourself 84 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:38,480 a story that Jayden and Hertz can keep pace with those guys, 85 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,560 and then it starts to make the two V twos not feel is 86 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:44,520 disastrous in a way where you could just get buried. 87 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:49,800 Otherwise, yeah, I mean that's probably the four Q BS in 2025 88 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:54,200 fantasy ADP QB one through QB 4 probably and they're all playing 89 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:56,400 wild card weekend. They all theoretically have the 90 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,360 four-game path. Last year we had obviously Lamar 91 00:04:59,360 --> 00:05:01,720 on a bi Hertz in a worse situation. 92 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:06,000 He ended up losing in week 1. Like his path is pretty clean 93 00:05:06,000 --> 00:05:08,120 this year. Daniels has obviously got the 94 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,480 toughest path, but there's ways that it it could work out. 95 00:05:11,480 --> 00:05:15,640 The NFC is not like like Justin Herbert's really good, but a lot 96 00:05:15,640 --> 00:05:19,240 of us are kind of like, I don't know about you guys, but I mean, 97 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,000 like just like in general, I think a lot of people are just 98 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:22,880 kind of writing off the charges, making a strong run. 99 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,440 But on the NFC side, like I could see it for Daniels. 100 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,600 It depends on a few things, but I could see it. 101 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:30,360 But yeah, I mean, it's like you get someone's going to get three 102 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:32,960 games out of that group. It's a really strong quarter. 103 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,400 We talked earlier in the week about the tight end class this 104 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:38,720 year, the tight end competition being weak, the the quarterback 105 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,320 competition is really strong. Yeah, and it comes down to 106 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:44,600 because we've got to come in here, ask him out. 107 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,960 Golf, a big part of it is like, how are they going to do 108 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:49,760 relative to their teammates? It makes golf like super tricky 109 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,400 because he's got outscored Gibbs and Amanra and Laporta. 110 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:57,560 And like there will be like a tiny sprinkling of Jameson where 111 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,720 you're like, you know, you and you're going to go against 112 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:02,480 teams. If you get to the Super Bowl 113 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,800 with golf, you're going to go against teams that have the the 114 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:08,680 quarterback on the other side. So it's like, is he out scoring 115 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,200 that quarterback? Maybe not. 116 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:13,920 And then is there go player out pouring your golf? 117 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:18,800 So yeah, it's it's tough with Goff. 118 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:24,960 I think the other big change I made was I'm bringing Gibbs and 119 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,960 Almond raw a little closer, actually a lot a lot closer from 120 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:30,400 where we first started the week. I still have Gibbs as the 121 00:06:31,160 --> 00:06:34,120 technically the chalk, but they're within 4%. 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,360 I just have not heard anyone be like, I'm Jamie Gibbs. 123 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:40,800 I don't care. It's like everyone's going to 124 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:42,360 play Gibbs. Gibbs is a great play. 125 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,400 I want to play Gibbs, but I also want to play Amanara and what a 126 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:49,240 pivot he is. And so I'm starting to think 127 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,480 that maybe Blair and Hassan, you know, they were, we're kind of 128 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,320 meeting in the middle on on the initial read where we thought 129 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:56,960 it'd be Gibbs, they thought it'd be Amanara. 130 00:06:57,320 --> 00:07:00,040 I think they might be kind of code chalk in the end. 131 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,040 Yeah, yeah. And I, I do think like we were 132 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,920 talking about like the lag in news as it relates to people 133 00:07:06,920 --> 00:07:09,080 kind of catching up to stuff, you know, with the hurts. 134 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,600 And I do find I've heard more people talking about the David 135 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:15,960 Montgomery stuff lately. And it seems like people are 136 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:17,400 coming around. I've seen people talk about 137 00:07:17,400 --> 00:07:20,080 like, oh, Gibbs now feels like the toughest click in round one 138 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:22,400 of the underdog drafts. Like, you're taking the bye and 139 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,120 then Montgomery's coming back. Like, I'm starting to see that 140 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:29,080 sentiment tilt in a way that I think kind of backs up your, you 141 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,040 know, instinct to to bring him down. 142 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,200 I could see I'm on a rough flipping Gibbs, but I as of 143 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:39,120 right now, I I think it'll, it'll come in a little bit 144 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:43,800 favoring Gibbs, but it's I've my confidence has like gotten lower 145 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:46,440 and lower on that as the week is going on. 146 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:51,200 I was saying to you guys earlier, I feel like everyone 147 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,400 that I've heard talk about it, they think the, the one that's 148 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,320 going to be higher is the one that they don't want to play 149 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,520 because like their, their next sentence is that they really 150 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,560 want to play the lower. Like I've heard some people say 151 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:02,400 it's going to be Aminara that's higher in ownership. 152 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:04,400 And they're like, I really love playing Gibbs. 153 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,400 Like, well, I mean, if that's the way you're thinking about 154 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,560 it, that it's probably not as advantageous to your life. 155 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:11,200 You know your situation as you're hoping. 156 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,320 I don't think you're getting leverage in the spot in any 157 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:17,440 meaningful way. So if you're playing one line 158 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,440 up, play the guy you prefer. If you're playing a couple line 159 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,480 UPS, maybe mix it up. But yeah, I would be surprised 160 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:25,920 if one guy's like a smash because everyone plays the other 161 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,320 guy. Yeah. 162 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,640 And so basically where that leaves us is we've it's kind of 163 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:32,760 approaching the Bucky and Mike Evans dynamic. 164 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:38,559 I think Bucky might have a a significant gap in the end. 165 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:40,200 OK. So you think they that might 166 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:41,640 actually be moving in the other direction? 167 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,560 When you look at the match up, it's like you can run on the 168 00:08:45,560 --> 00:08:48,040 commanders. They're not only are they bat 169 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:50,800 against the run teams run on them, they're clear run funnel 170 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,200 bucks are home. You get you get a running back 171 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,320 who you think is going to win, then you get the running back 172 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:58,480 again. You know that's always not the 173 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,520 two game thing when one of them's a win. 174 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,400 Don't these, don't the Pucky. 'S wrath sucks. 175 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:09,840 God. Leon I mean, I don't have it 176 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:13,240 massive, but I think I think that gap will be will be a lot 177 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,800 bigger in the end. Leonie, what about on your 178 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,520 guys's side over at ETR with the actual projections? 179 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:20,880 I know you guys have projections both for the wild card slate, 180 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,280 all the playoff stuff. Have there been, you know, you 181 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,880 guys in the trenches kind of any meaningful adjustments to 182 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,720 players over the past few days? Nothing too meaningful. 183 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:32,920 I mean, knock on wood, stuff's been pretty quiet. 184 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:36,080 We had like an A.J. Brown scare a couple days ago on 185 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,480 the Devante Smith scare earlier today, but neither of them are 186 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,480 on the final injury report. So there's not too much stuff. 187 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,200 Like, I mean, we like increased Deonte Johnson's role tonight, 188 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,400 but like that's not really affecting, you know, mixing or 189 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,040 Nico guys that you would you would take. 190 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:57,880 So I know I felt all all week that our our Jaden Daniels 191 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,800 projection was maybe a little bit hot talked about that on ETM 192 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:05,400 this morning, but you know, we didn't we think the inputs are 193 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,560 good. So we haven't really moved it 194 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:10,280 down. So no, pretty pretty quiet week, 195 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:15,160 all things considered. Yeah, yeah, pretty much 196 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:16,920 everything settled. I don't think we're going to 197 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,400 have any, you know, big news bombs like the the no Leonard 198 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,040 Fournette at the last second, although I guess you never know 199 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,480 with this stuff. I wanted to do something I, I do 200 00:10:28,480 --> 00:10:32,800 this during the the crams on my channel for individual DFS 201 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:35,360 slates, but it's always kind of fun to see where everyone is at. 202 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,640 So I'm curious in the chat if you guys are playing in either 203 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:41,200 of these contests, the 35 or the 200, just tell me your favorite 204 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,240 play on the slate. Can be chalk, can be contrarian 205 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,160 just like the one you. If we had you on the show and 206 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,960 you got to put the 1st pick in a lineup, let us let us know who 207 00:10:50,960 --> 00:10:53,360 you would pick. I think it'd be fun to. 208 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,840 Love that while they while they start doing that, Nick has a 209 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:01,840 note that I don't think Nick can go really overlooked. 210 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,120 And I I I think is definitely solidifying things for Bucky 211 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,000 that the lot the lot of more stuff. 212 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,560 I don't know, you might have mentioned it too a second ago, 213 00:11:09,560 --> 00:11:12,880 Pat, but the with the with the matchup, but people didn't do a 214 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,040 lot of more. The lot of more Evans thing is 215 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:18,040 very well known man, and he throws Evans off his game. 216 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,880 He did for years and years and years. 217 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,400 People, I mean, people will be irrationally concerned about an 218 00:11:24,400 --> 00:11:26,000 injection. I saw references to it on 219 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,920 Twitter, like when they're talking about a lot of more was 220 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:29,440 going to play. It's like, well, Evans might get 221 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:32,200 tossed and it's like, yeah, we'll see. 222 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,800 We. We were doing our DFS breakdown 223 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,480 on off and on the clock today and and John was hitting us with 224 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:42,000 a stat about how many games in his career that I think it was 225 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,920 like Evans had cleared 100 yards on Lattimore. 226 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,880 It was some art threshold and it was like once in his entire 227 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:50,000 career or whatever. So like the, the Lattimore wide 228 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:53,160 receiver cornerback matchup is certainly starting to, you know, 229 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,040 infiltrate the the analysis this week. 230 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,360 So I think that is a good note. Like if there if it is 5050 and 231 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,800 people are looking to break a tie, they're going to break it 232 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:08,120 away from from that matchup. All right, let me let me read 233 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,280 some some quick pull results here. 234 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:12,360 I just kind of do these rapid fire and then you guys can kind 235 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,560 of help me if you notice any interesting 3 lines or themes, 236 00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:20,760 Laporta, Ladd, Mcconkey, Bucky, Addison, Josh Allen, Jacobs. 237 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,920 With an Eagles wide receiver, there's worthy there's ertz but 238 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:27,000 with double tight end, there's another worthy Henry. 239 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,000 There's a Nico as a pivot off of the hard fade here. 240 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:32,800 Sutton Worthy. There's another worry. 241 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,560 Oh, a Jalen Warren. Now we're getting spicy puka. 242 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,960 There's a Bucky. Here's a Kyron, a Mike and a 243 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:41,080 Mark Andrews. Another Bucky here. 244 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:45,080 Laporta and Jayden. So some Laporta. 245 00:12:45,160 --> 00:12:48,000 Bucky. Not hearing about too much 246 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:51,840 Galaxy brain at quarterback. Didn't see Evans in there. 247 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,880 No, just just lots of Bucky this is. 248 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:58,360 The audience that I I may have mentioned Bucky more than anyone 249 00:12:58,400 --> 00:13:00,160 has mentioned any player this week, so. 250 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:03,000 All right, Jade, now we're getting more in the Galaxy 251 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,440 brain. There's a Khalil Shakur, there's 252 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:08,000 a there's a Marvin Mims there. OK, cool. 253 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:10,520 If you guys have any other favorites, feel free to let 254 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,680 those trickle in. Always curious to see what you 255 00:13:13,680 --> 00:13:17,240 guys are on. Do you guys do either of you 256 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:18,360 guys have a favorite play right now? 257 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,040 Gretch is is Bucky still your favorite? 258 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:21,440 I. I mean, I don't think I would 259 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:23,960 say he's my favorite. I I think there's a chance Bucky 260 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:27,960 comes in really high and. Dude, I mean, that's the vibe 261 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:31,280 I'm getting right from that. Like we're talking about Evans 262 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:35,400 coming in like. The Boomers will keep Evans up 263 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,800 enough. What? 264 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,880 Who will boomer? No, the boomers left Bucky, man. 265 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,600 Bucky is is a really good running back who came on down 266 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,760 the stretch and won people money like the boomers are. 267 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,520 They're familiar with Bucky's game. 268 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:53,840 They they like what they see. Yeah, So what Pat, let the 269 00:13:53,840 --> 00:13:56,880 people know just right now, what do you have the the ownership at 270 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,080 for for Bucky and Evans? As this went, I, I, I'm testing 271 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:06,200 out 57 and 3057 Bucky 3030 Evans, Yeah. 272 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,600 Were you asking, Pete, just sorry I didn't answer your 273 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,200 question, but were you asking what our favorite? 274 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,720 Yeah, I was just curious like if right now, you know, you, you 275 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:16,640 factor in all the different inputs, we're kind of juggling 276 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:18,200 if you have a guy you really like right now. 277 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:23,120 What do you guys have on that? My guy's probably Jacobs. 278 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,160 Yeah, he's a good play. It's kind of my my type of play. 279 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:30,240 The It's the Acres play from a couple of years ago. 280 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:34,640 Yeah, I like, I like mixing and a similar play. 281 00:14:34,800 --> 00:14:39,960 Just these these underdogs that aren't massive underdogs that if 282 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,800 you get it right, if you get the winner of the game, right, 283 00:14:43,600 --> 00:14:46,960 especially in Jacobs's case, like the winner of the game, 284 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:52,360 like Jacobs is in the optimal, you know, not 100% obviously, 285 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:55,800 but really, really likely that he is. 286 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:58,400 So you're just making this bet and then you've got some outs 287 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,720 that he's scores well enough in a loss too and you're fine. 288 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:03,640 You know, depending on what you do on the field side. 289 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,840 I do like just looking at stuff more playing like what the 290 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:13,920 lineup looks like if there's an upset as opposed to say like 291 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:17,360 flipping Courtland Sutton to Marvin Mintz or something. 292 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,240 Just thinking through it, you know, if you think like there's 293 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:24,000 like a 20% chance Marvin Mims outscores, Cortland sought it, 294 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,600 right? Even if you get that right in 295 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:30,920 that 20% chance you might, you're not picking up that many 296 00:15:30,920 --> 00:15:33,000 points probably. And you're competing with a 297 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,280 bunch of other chalk lineups too that like you're really hoping 298 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:39,800 to get this weird outcome. You could take that same 20% 299 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:44,200 gamble and say the Broncos beat the Bills and now you've got a 300 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,080 Bronco in two games, skill player that's definitely going 301 00:15:47,080 --> 00:15:50,440 to be optimal and you've faded Josh Allen, who's on 50% of the 302 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:54,480 teams like you get, you've taken they're both 20% gambles, but 303 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:58,240 one puts you in a much better position to actually win than 304 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:00,040 the other. And the field's going to do the 305 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:02,040 other one more than it should because they'd love to just 306 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,760 like, pick a random player. I mean not a ton but people will 307 00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:06,280 throw in the random guy because it. 308 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:12,840 There's a sweat aspect equity to it where if you take Marvin Mims 309 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:16,200 and he's not that good, like you're still live, you know, and 310 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,920 you feel better about that. If you project the bills to lose 311 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,440 and they don't and you're instant dad, you're going to 312 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,680 feel crappy. But you know, the goal is kind 313 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:29,160 of to try to win, even though me tilting in our Discord space 314 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,120 would lead you to think the goal is to just have one live line 315 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:35,960 up. This is really similar to the 316 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,000 optionality thing we're talking about where where you're saying 317 00:16:38,000 --> 00:16:41,000 like what 20% bet do you want to make? 318 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,840 And there's kind of the undercover 20% bet that you can 319 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:47,000 make that's more related to like the whole bracket and picking an 320 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:49,480 upset and people don't think about it that way. 321 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,320 And the optionality thing we talked about is how people in 322 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,160 the first round will love to play both sides of the first 323 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:56,400 round games. And there's also, you know, 324 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,200 that's going to be played heavily because they don't want 325 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:00,480 to pick a winner in the first round games. 326 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:03,480 We've talked for years about you pick a winner in the first round 327 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,119 games, it's going to help your line UPS overall typically. 328 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:10,359 But that doesn't mean you have to sacrifice all optionality. 329 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:15,400 There are decisions you can make with the bracket that create 330 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,560 optionality for a different, you know a couple different types of 331 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:23,200 bracket, right? Like if you play well, I mean, I 332 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,800 think my. Answer to four teams to lose, 333 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:29,880 but six teams are going to lose. So you've got some some ways you 334 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:35,320 can play, you know, James Cook and Courtland Sutton and right, 335 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,560 right, Hope Denver wins, but you're not totally dead if if 336 00:17:38,560 --> 00:17:42,160 they they don't. It is funny because I do the way 337 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,680 you put it, with like the two things are both 20%. 338 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,160 But the way I think most people's brains work is like, 339 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,920 you can kind of sit, sit them down and like talk through the 340 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,880 projection and talk through like the Vegas line and be like, so 341 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:56,960 both of these are about 20%. You know, one of them being the 342 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,440 Broncos beating the Bills. The most people just be like, 343 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,760 yeah, but the Broncos aren't going to beat the Bills. 344 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,720 You know, it's like the the other one, like Mims could 345 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,640 outscore Sutton, but the Broncos aren't being the pills. 346 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,280 Like, even if they're both 20% on paper, it just doesn't feel 347 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,600 that way. That type of thing. 348 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:15,000 It's so much easier to imagine like a player doing better in a 349 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:17,600 game. But it's hard like, and that's 350 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,480 where I think like filling out a bracket is, is such a key part 351 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,280 of this contest actually deciding who's going to win 352 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,560 these games. It's like you you talk about all 353 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:27,440 the time in DFS too, right, Leoni? 354 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,600 Like if you're building AGPP lineup, there's different ways 355 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,680 to get unique. You could make a one for one 356 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,760 positional pivot, or you could flip the build. 357 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:38,320 I feel like flipping the build in this case is kind of playing 358 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,400 a different bracket and it's like you don't, it doesn't 359 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:44,080 necessarily have to be a 1V1 off of a teammate. 360 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:47,240 You know, it could just be like I'm going to play a a bracket 361 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,080 that no one else is is anticipating. 362 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,120 Yeah, I think sometimes there's line UPS. 363 00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:52,920 You know, it's in main slate DFS 2. 364 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,000 You know, I've changed the way I played. 365 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,920 I bought the last couple years where it was used to be just 366 00:18:56,920 --> 00:19:00,800 kind of like let me jam in like my favorite leverage place, you 367 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:03,240 know, a kind of subjectively decide how many of them I want 368 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:05,080 in there. Just get that one off high 369 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:09,120 ceiling at low ownership. You know, it's more evolved to 370 00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:12,000 like building lineups that have the best chance to win. 371 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,880 And sometimes the lineup you build, it might seem like the 372 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:19,320 path is narrow, like, oh, you need like these two upsets to 373 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,600 happen or something that seemed really unlikely. 374 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:25,440 But if it happens, that lineup is really, really well 375 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:29,000 positioned versus sometimes when you build your one offs, you 376 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,120 might get the result you want and you're still not like 377 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:35,400 gaining as much on the field as you think you are. 378 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:38,920 But it just, it feels comfier because you're more likely to 379 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:42,480 get points and then feel better about the play that you made 380 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,080 'cause you, you know, got those points from. 381 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:47,680 That right, right. Pete, who's your favorite play? 382 00:19:48,920 --> 00:19:49,760 I. Think. 383 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:51,760 I think right now it might be A.J. 384 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,560 Brown. You know, when I just kind of 385 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:58,480 look at all that stuff and, you know, again, to me, he feels 386 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:00,360 comfy. When you look at his ownership, 387 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:03,520 I think he could get there like in an Eagles loss, still being 388 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,560 kind of an alpha. I think he could separate from 389 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:08,960 Barkley over two games. Obviously you got some heavy 390 00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:13,520 hitters to surpass. It hurts in Barkley, but yeah, 391 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:17,640 I, I feel like he has just been, I don't know, like a sleeping 392 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,960 giant. Just like waiting to explode for 393 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:22,640 one of those insane like 102 tutty games. 394 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:24,800 And if you get one of those across, you know, one to two 395 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,200 games, I think he could like, in retrospect, be like, wait, why? 396 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,000 Why weren't we playing more A.J. Brown? 397 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,960 Totally. I think mine would probably be 398 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,320 Bucky still even with the increased. 399 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:38,440 Ownership. Yeah, he's gonna. 400 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,920 Well, I'm only increasing more. Yeah, the other shock piece that 401 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:46,560 I'm well and I think Sutton's a really fun one and to a lesser 402 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,640 extent Pickens. But picking you know, one of 403 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:51,880 those guys on the Denver or Pittsburgh side and playing the 404 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,080 20% side that Leon was just saying as far as like a lower 405 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,200 percentage one. But the, the other, I think the, 406 00:20:57,360 --> 00:21:00,480 the one, that other one I was thinking of is really chalky as 407 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:01,880 well. And I was talking about him a 408 00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:04,440 little bit earlier in the chat. But I, I'm coming back around to 409 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,840 thinking that you just need to play Kelsey and that he's just a 410 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,280 really clean play. I think it my, my whole early 411 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:15,280 week was I wanted to find other good tight ends. 412 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:18,040 I thought for a while that Andrews was definitely the play. 413 00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,360 And then we were talking about some of the different tight ends 414 00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:23,560 at various points. I saw some people mention 415 00:21:23,560 --> 00:21:25,120 LaPorte. I saw several people mention 416 00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:28,600 Worthy in there. People have mentioned to 417 00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:30,640 Andrews. I think people are going to play 418 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,200 some Goddard, certainly some ertz some of these different 419 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,280 options. If you go look at the tight 420 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:38,040 ends, I mean, Kelsey just scored a lot more points than all these 421 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,800 guys, caught a lot of passes. This idea that Kelsey needs to 422 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,280 turn it on the post season is probably not even that true. 423 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,280 We caught 97 balls as tight end premium. 424 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,400 Like he just, if they play two games, he just needs one of 425 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:51,040 those eight or nine catch games. He's going to separate from 426 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:53,160 these tight ends by like pretty meaningfully. 427 00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,520 And it's hard to talk yourself into any of the other KC plays 428 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,240 like they're not clean this year. 429 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,240 I, I do really like Xavier worthy, but I kind of feel like 430 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:05,440 Kelsey's just going to be like the he's, I think he's going to 431 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,720 come in a little lower than he should too, which because I 432 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,040 mean, everyone is saying everything that I'm saying, but 433 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,040 they're also like, we're doing it by default. 434 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,600 And I think we should actually be excited to put put Kelsey in 435 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:19,200 instead of like by default, which can lead to convincing 436 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:22,160 yourself to pivot. Off of it, yeah. 437 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:27,360 I think like Kelsey is the inverse of say Jared Goff, right 438 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:31,560 in that think of all of Jared Goff's positional competition 439 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,280 and all of his teammate competition. 440 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,560 And then you look at Travis Kelsey, look at all of his 441 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:39,840 positional competition, NIL teammate competition, very weak. 442 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:44,120 Like he just separates in two different arenas in such a clear 443 00:22:44,120 --> 00:22:44,440 way. He. 444 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,760 Does, yeah. He really does, yeah. 445 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:49,240 People want to play him, they're just like, meh. 446 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,400 Yeah, we're also like together, we're building a lot of lineups. 447 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,360 So sometimes it's hard to talk through this because most people 448 00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:58,800 are probably making like 1-2 or three lineups. 449 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,080 And it's like, obviously very different where like, we could 450 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,280 play, like underweight Kelsey by a little and still have a ton. 451 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,480 Yeah. And, you know, take shots on 452 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:12,560 like, Laporta here and there. So I feel like Gretch, there's 453 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,880 definitely some good chalk between the guys, Gretch Munch 454 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,160 and Bucky and Kelsey. I think Alan, you know, I've 455 00:23:18,160 --> 00:23:21,240 been ranting, raving about Alan all week. 456 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:28,040 And, you know, Puka would be a guy where I'm just like, it just 457 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:30,680 feels like he always gets there, you know, no matter what 458 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,880 happens. Do you think, you know, he's 459 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,920 probably far enough away from Kyron and ownership that I think 460 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,600 Kyron's fine, but I think Puka is also like very like, I 461 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,320 wouldn't be mad if Puka was 75% and we played in. 462 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,320 I think he will be 75%. So there's a couple comments 463 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,360 from Fisher. The puka thing is crazy to me, 464 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:55,640 76% Kyron's projected a bit less, but 160 ownership. 465 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,040 Nick says I like puka. I don't know. 466 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,840 There was another thing questioning the puka. 467 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,520 But anyway, there's a ton of puka love in the chat as well. 468 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:07,520 Puka came in as the favorite play for a couple people. 469 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,800 Jordan said he feels like the Skeleton Key. 470 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,800 Nick said he likes me. He thinks that things are set up 471 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,320 well for the Rams on Narrative St. 472 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:18,120 So like, well, I mean, can you give this skeleton key at like a 473 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,720 75%? I was trying to think of like 474 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,680 what the door, the lock on that door. 475 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:28,320 Looks like the door just open. It's just open, yeah. 476 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:33,960 But like when I'm projecting a guy for 76% ownership and people 477 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,840 are like, he's my favorite player in the tournament, He's 478 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:40,040 the key to the tournament. It's it's happening like this 479 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,560 76% is like people are playing puka. 480 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:44,960 I think we're going to play Buka. 481 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:46,680 I'm not saying don't play Bukka, by the way. 482 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,080 I'm just saying I I feel really confident in this ownership 483 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,560 projection. It is. 484 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,680 It does have a little bit of vibes to, you know, Devonta 485 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,680 Adams, Aaron Jones years where Devonta Adams came in at like 486 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,480 90%. You know, the gap between those 487 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:08,040 two is a little bit similar than to Puka and the difference being 488 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,240 they're less likely to win a game than I think we had some of 489 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,560 those Adams Aaron Jones years. If I'm remembering correctly, 490 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,280 they were favorites, but another thing that the point. 491 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,280 But then they lost. Yeah, I thought they. 492 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:22,960 Lost that? And it was Aaron Jones, the 493 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:26,760 point Ben was making about Kelsey. 494 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:32,680 We have him in the ETRFFPC projections leading the tight 495 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,720 end position. Laporta very close, but we have 496 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:41,400 Kelsey highest in points per game, but also highest on his 497 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:44,240 team among skill players in points per game. 498 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,640 No other tight end is really close to being the highest. 499 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,400 So like those two things combined, there's a lot of 500 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:57,800 buffer for Kelsey to under perform and still be the guy 501 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,480 that you know you need on Kansas City. 502 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:02,640 Right, exactly that. That's the idea I'm thinking of 503 00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:06,080 is like, and, and when we talked about it earlier, Leonia, I, 504 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:08,920 I've said that I felt like people were less interested in 505 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,160 Kelsey this year. And you were kind of maybe 506 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,560 thinking the opposite. And I think part of that is, I 507 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,640 think you're right to A, to a degree for sure, because part of 508 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,360 that is that last year there were some other good tight ends 509 00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:22,560 and we felt like he needed to turn it on, which he ended up 510 00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,640 doing. But it, it felt thinner this 511 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:29,480 year. He's not been great all year. 512 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,360 And it's still clearly the, what you were just saying, clearly 513 00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:35,760 the best tight end for the season and scoring that's in the 514 00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,240 post season for projections. I'm looking at it right now. 515 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,880 The next highest, he had 97 catches. 516 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:44,480 The next highest catches for any tight end was Zach Ertz. 517 00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,400 He played all 17 games. Kelsey played 16. 518 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:52,960 So he Zach Ertz was at 66. He was 29, excuse me, 31 catches 519 00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:56,160 behind Kelsey. I mean, that's a massive gap, 2 520 00:26:56,160 --> 00:27:01,080 catches per game basically. And and then there's like an 521 00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:03,680 even bigger, like, I guess Fryman was there at 65. 522 00:27:03,880 --> 00:27:06,120 Some of the dudes didn't play the whole year, whatever. 523 00:27:06,120 --> 00:27:08,480 You know, there's injuries, etcetera, but there's no other 524 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,520 tight end in the entire field that caught 70 balls this year. 525 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,960 You know, I mean, Kelsey's just like head and shoulders. 526 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,800 Yeah, like we were talking about the different ways to get 527 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,400 unique. And I actually think the Puka 528 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,800 Chiron examples are pretty good. One of like, if, if Puka is that 529 00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,240 overwhelming of a good play, I think the temptation is to say, 530 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,000 oh, to get off that shock, I have to play Chiron. 531 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,760 It's like, well, actually just soft fading or hard fading the 532 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:34,560 Rams is the way to get way unique. 533 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,480 Because you're saying, how does Puka fail? 534 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,520 Like, sure, could Chiron have 25 carries and two touchdowns and 535 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,240 Puka only scores 12? Like, yeah, but it's more likely 536 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,560 that that entire game fails, or the entire Rams offense fails, 537 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,400 and you can sidestep that chalk and also remove yourself from 538 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,200 the systemic risk of the Rams offense failing at the same 539 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,240 time. I think hard fade is a is a very 540 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,600 viable pivot for the Rams. I don't think a ton of people 541 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,040 hard fade them. I think actually very few people 542 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:03,400 hard fade them. I can see some kicker in that 543 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:08,000 game because it's got a high total, but just like hard fading 544 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:12,480 them and then say the the Rams have a really bad game on 545 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:17,480 offense and it's puka. It's my puka versus it's your 546 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,560 puka versus my Sutton. It's your puka versus my 547 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,880 Pickens, right? I'm or whatever else, like I'm 548 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,840 getting another I'm I'm getting a skill player to go against 549 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:30,720 your puka who's a dog. But I'm also betting that the 550 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,840 Rams lose. And if you take that skill 551 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:38,000 player, maybe a better example would actually be like a Nico or 552 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,560 a lad. You're playing both sides of 553 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,120 that game. So you're taking like a hard 554 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,880 faith of Houston and turning it into lad. 555 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:47,720 And it's like maybe maybe I end up getting heartbeat of Houston 556 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,520 turning into Nico. Maybe I get 2 games out of 557 00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:51,440 Houston that I'm not really expecting cuz I'm playing Glad 558 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:54,680 as well, but it's like 2 games of Nico now versus your one game 559 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,680 of Puka. We were talking about the chalk 560 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,960 that we really liked. Who do you guys think is like 561 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,440 the bad chalk? I don't know if I feel like 562 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,840 there's less like clear bad chalk than in some years we've 563 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,280 had like there was that year with Eckler was like probably 564 00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:15,560 way too high versus Jacksonville and we were like pretty on it. 565 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:20,400 We'll this one out. I, I, I think Justin Jefferson 566 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,760 is bad shock. I think that the overconfidence 567 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,400 in him like this just isn't the same Justin Jefferson in offense 568 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:29,200 that we've seen this year. Gretch has made a lot of good 569 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:35,560 points about Addison and them kind of splitting these blow up 570 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,200 games. Like, I just don't think 571 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:41,280 Jefferson is on the level of puka, you know, as far as like 572 00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:43,360 on this slate. And he's being treated as if he 573 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,640 is. And so to me, that kind of 574 00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:49,200 overconfidence where it's like we know if there's an alpha game 575 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,040 on the Rams, it's it's going through puka. 576 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,600 I don't feel comfortable saying that for the Vikings. 577 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,920 I like that take. I. 578 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:57,040 Throw out. Oh, good, good. 579 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,240 I'm a little bit of a coward on a lot. 580 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,080 Like I said, I like a lot of the chalk, but I guess I would say I 581 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,760 think Saquon's like one of the more over owned guys. 582 00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:11,960 You know we're going to let Seguan Berrius again. 583 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:19,880 But we definitely, you know, seen the floor at times, even 584 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,560 though he's hit the ceiling, you know, remarkably well and 585 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,440 consistently. But he's got, you know, over the 586 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,480 course of the season, he's got three games where he didn't 587 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,040 crack double digits, which I know it's like a low percentage, 588 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:34,560 but you know, when you're playing this tournament and. 589 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,600 You could almost say that's a good thing, but. 590 00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:41,680 They're in, I guess they're in there like he's not in. 591 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,760 I think, you know, I'd be more shocked with a puka single digit 592 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:49,160 game than a Saquon Barkley single digit game. 593 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,120 And there's obviously, you know, routes where him score scoring 594 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,560 16 points isn't enough because the teammate A.J. 595 00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,960 Brown either goes off or they just lose this first game 596 00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:03,960 against Green Bay. So, and I, I say that because 597 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,520 he's 75% owned, you know, like if he was 60% owned, which is 598 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,880 still really high, I wouldn't feel the same, but it does start 599 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:17,000 to, to matter. Yeah, I'll say James Cook, he's 600 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:20,080 obviously, you know, he led the league in touchdowns, but like, 601 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:24,680 he's not, you know, remember when we were drafting him this 602 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:26,240 summer, it's like, well, he's not going to score any 603 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,400 touchdowns. So, you know, otherwise we'd be 604 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:32,320 going in the second or third round or whatever, but it feels 605 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,560 a little bit kind of a default playoff Allen. 606 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:35,880 You can't play Allen on every lineup. 607 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,520 You want to play some Lamar, you want to mix it up at quarterback 608 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:41,720 and then you're like, what else do I do on the Bills? 609 00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:45,400 I I put Dalton Kincaid in the lineup and it was so gross that 610 00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,040 we took him out. It's just not really, you could 611 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:53,000 do Shakira, I guess, but that's not I bet you end up flipping 612 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,720 that to Cook by the end of the builds. 613 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,760 So it's not like I we're going to play Cook, but it's like a 614 00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,720 default play. And I think finding ways to get 615 00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,240 off like a, a play that you're, you're not even excited about 616 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:10,120 and is pretty owned would be, you know, a good thing to think 617 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,920 about ways to do. Excluding Week 18, you know, 618 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,920 where the Bills weren't trying, I think these are pretty 619 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,480 shocking opportunity numbers for James Cook. 620 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,680 You know, starting Week 13, this is last five games. 14 carries, 621 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:28,480 1 target, 6 carries, 2 targets, 14 carries, 1 target, 11 622 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,640 carries, 3 targets, 15 carries, 0 targets. 623 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,840 That's a tough workload to be looking at when Josh Allen has a 624 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,880 huge portion of the touchdowns. Now, do I think he gets more 625 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:42,560 receiving work in the playoffs? Probably, But it's not going to 626 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,160 be like that Devin Singletary year where they condensed on him 627 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:47,120 like they like using Ty Johnson and Ray. 628 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,560 Love Ty Johnson. Caught on. 629 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,600 And to Pat's point about the touchdowns, he had more carries 630 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:56,240 last year, 2 touchdowns. This year he has 16. 631 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:58,920 Truth's probably, you know, somewhere in the middle. 632 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,360 And even though he led the the league in touchdowns, there's 633 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,400 and maybe this is just like wrong bro science and maybe 634 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,560 Leona, you could check me on this, but it feels like he's 635 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,960 been more like positively correlated with Allen. 636 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,960 Like in games where the Bills roll, like Cook has a big game 637 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:17,600 and Allen also has a monster game. 638 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,040 Whereas we sometimes see some more of like a negative 639 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:24,760 correlation between Barkley in Hertz or Kyron in Puka. 640 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,320 And that makes it even harder, right? 641 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:30,240 Because what game scenarios then are you threading that needle of 642 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,800 Cook hitting but Allen not? I love this take and I thought 643 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:37,160 this earlier in the week briefly and you're you're bringing this 644 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,920 back that Cook doesn't work in this contest because how does he 645 00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,120 get there in a loss? This is exactly what you said. 646 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,160 I feel like he scores when they're rolling when Allen's 647 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,280 also scoring. Yeah, because he's he's smaller 648 00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,040 backs. So you assume, you know, just 649 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,360 from like playing a while, you assume like, oh, he's going to 650 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,280 be like a pass catcher guy. Like if they get in shootouts. 651 00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,360 The other thing that's tough about Cook is like what happens 652 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,280 when they get in shootouts? What about that Rams game, right 653 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,680 when the whole offense blows up? That was his worst game maybe of 654 00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:06,120 the season. It was a horrible game for him. 655 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:07,800 That's the game. Johnson scored a bunch. 656 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,920 Yeah, it was absolute dud. You're like, how can this guy 657 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:14,199 fail when the team is like putting up so many points? 658 00:34:14,199 --> 00:34:16,040 It's because he's not really their third down back. 659 00:34:16,199 --> 00:34:20,440 Ty Johnson is. He's like a he's a speed back, 660 00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:22,679 but he's a more of an early down speed back. 661 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,320 So you want them to be, you want positive game script? 662 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:31,120 Yeah, I think, I think. If you're not playing Allen, 663 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:35,000 playing some Kincaid teams, I'm probably over playing this in my 664 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,000 head. But I do like with a tight end 665 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,480 premium, like the inefficient catch volume and a loss for some 666 00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,000 of these tight ends. Ben and I were talking about it 667 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,080 with like, you know, Hawkinson versus Addison if you're fading 668 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:47,440 Jefferson. And it's like if you're playing 669 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:50,120 them to lose that kind of like Hawk and just like less 670 00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,639 efficiency, more catches. Same thing with Kincaid, like 671 00:34:53,159 --> 00:34:55,560 Buffalo's playing from behind. There's more catch volume than 672 00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,560 usual. James Cook isn't scoring 673 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:02,680 touchdowns because they're not winning and James Cook's 38% 674 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:06,680 owned Kids 4 so. And I think you can maybe have a 675 00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:09,600 little bit of underdog brain from draft in the wild card 676 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:11,240 slate. But like, I think you can extend 677 00:35:11,240 --> 00:35:14,640 that to a guy like Kate Auten, you know, Bucks in a loss. 678 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,360 You can extend it to Will Disley like Chargers in a loss. 679 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,480 Like those guys can easily rack up 7 to 8 receptions and be the 680 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,440 optimal player on their team in a loss. 681 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,320 Leonie mentioned it with Friarmouth when I was talking 682 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,640 about Pickens a little. I think that's another great 683 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,560 application. Yeah, I mean it's possible for 684 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,960 sure. Yeah, this. 685 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,960 The tight ends just do not separate. 686 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:39,920 At least you know the ones playing this week. 687 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:42,960 No, I. Still like Andrew's though. 688 00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,320 I know, I know Groucho's on Andrew's beginning of the week. 689 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:49,720 I still think, you know, I think there's a chance to say injury 690 00:35:49,720 --> 00:35:52,600 is is a little worse than than being on. 691 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,600 Certainly seems like he would play in the divisional round, 692 00:35:55,600 --> 00:36:00,760 but if there's any chance he misses or just isn't 100% in, 693 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,840 you know you're probably playing Andrews in non Super Bowl 694 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,360 outcomes anyways. So once you'd be playing Lamar. 695 00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:11,440 So like if you get 2 really good games from Andrews with the 696 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,600 title. Or just one huge game wild card 697 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,280 weekend. Like what if he catches 9 balls 698 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,120 or 10 balls, which I think might be possible because they're 699 00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:20,920 going to have to run in a lot more routes and he's. 700 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,840 He's been insane in the red zone too. 701 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:27,800 Dink was talking about it on ETM but I didn't realize he scored 702 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,800 in like 5 like 8 like 10 of the last 12 games or something. 703 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,440 He had his touchdown streets like pretty pretty nuts. 704 00:36:37,320 --> 00:36:39,960 Yeah. The tight end thing, the one 705 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,400 thing I want to say about a lot of those plays that I don't know 706 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:44,480 if we've actually explicitly said, but I think we're probably 707 00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,320 all sort of thinking we're joking about it a little bit 708 00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:49,160 when Pat took a Kinkade as a flex. 709 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,960 But some and somebody in the chat said the Urds thing with A2 710 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,920 tenant, a lot of those plays that we're talking about, I 711 00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:58,480 think you want to do them on single tight end builds because 712 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:03,560 you want the math to work out where they are the obvious tight 713 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,720 end because of the constraints of the contest and everything 714 00:37:05,720 --> 00:37:08,560 we've talked about. But if you start going into the 715 00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:11,760 flex part of it, then you need the tight ends to hit so big 716 00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,760 that again, they're one of the two highest scoring losing 717 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,080 players out of the six games, which is what happened with Jake 718 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,280 Ferguson last year. And the math still worked out 719 00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:25,040 well for for Kelsey. But the Ferguson thing was such 720 00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:28,280 an outlier, man, A three tight end game for one of these. 721 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,080 I mean, it could happen again, but I feel like you're playing 722 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,400 Kincaid. If you're playing those kinds of 723 00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:34,640 guys, you do want to lean. If you're not making a ton of 724 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,640 lineups, you do want to lean toward one tight end builds. 725 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:41,760 The the part where I think you can make double tight ends are 726 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:47,480 in the AFC because when you're playing like Andrews and 727 00:37:47,720 --> 00:37:50,040 Kincaid, you're playing Baltimore and Buffalo to not go 728 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:53,560 to the Super Bowl. That means KC's got a cleaner 729 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,040 path and Kelsey's going to the Super Bowl, so I don't mind 730 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,960 like. Yeah, that makes sense to me. 731 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:02,880 The AFC tight ends together a little bit. 732 00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:07,480 It's a bracket play, but yeah, pairing like Kelsey and Hertz is 733 00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,840 like you're playing Hertz like. Yeah, use that. 734 00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,240 Do something difficult. What were you saying, Leone? 735 00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:19,120 If you're playing Kincaid or Andrews, you're playing Buffalo 736 00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:20,920 and Baltimore. To not go to the Super Bowl, 737 00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:23,520 Most likely, yeah. If you're playing them to not go 738 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:27,240 to the Super Bowl, Kansas City's odds of going to the Super Bowl 739 00:38:27,240 --> 00:38:31,600 are pretty high and Kelsey's the best play on Kansas City. 740 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,120 I definitely think that's viable for Andrews. 741 00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,840 You think Kincaid could be the highest scoring like like 742 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:40,000 optimal Bill in a 2 gamer? I guess so. 743 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:44,480 Or or a loss in the round one. That's the one where, but if 744 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:46,840 he's a loss around 1:00 and you're flexing him, he needs to 745 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,840 outscore like Nico and George Pickens and Sutton and and 746 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:52,320 Jefferson. Yeah, I think. 747 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:53,960 Loses in all the other. Games, Yeah, with the Titan 748 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,760 premium scoring, I definitely think he could. 749 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:59,600 I think he could. But also, like in two games, you 750 00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:04,880 know, or let's say you're playing a Lamar team, you could 751 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,600 have, you know, Lamar, Kelsey Kincaid's not crazy to me, you 752 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:12,400 know? Yeah, I don't like that. 753 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,280 It is crazy to me. Cuz that cuz you're playing 754 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,320 Kincaid to lose to Baltimore in round two, like and we are we 755 00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:21,840 just how James? Yeah, I think it's a bracket. 756 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:23,960 Play it, it works. OK, sorry, you're saying A2 757 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,960 gamer, I I was thinking you're saying A1 gamer there? 758 00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,000 I I still think he's fine in A1 gamer like. 759 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,600 But. You probably want Sutton to just 760 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,920 in case it is A1 Gamer. Yeah, I'm undervaluing the idea 761 00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:42,040 of Kincaid in a 2 gamer though cuz that's it would probably be 762 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,000 a built player. I think, I mean, I I definitely 763 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,040 think he can get there in a one game or I know it's been like a 764 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:50,760 bad season for him, but we've just seen this play in premium 765 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:54,920 scoring, you know, going back to the the Ferguson game last year, 766 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,960 like Buffalo's just going to Chuck if for some reason they 767 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,240 get down in this game, there's an upset, which that was a huge 768 00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:00,920 upset last year. You know, that was like a nine 769 00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:03,040 and a half point spread or something. 770 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:08,120 You know, Kincaid's got recently, you know, since he 771 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:12,480 came back, he's. He's got a lot of like 7 target 772 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:14,520 games. He's got A10 target game in 773 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,080 there. I definitely think he can play. 774 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:20,280 He just really hasn't found the end zone much this year. 775 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:26,400 Yeah, the 10 target game was. Against Miami in Week 9. 776 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,360 Most before. Sorry, not since. 777 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:32,560 That was before he came back. Because his routes have not been 778 00:40:32,560 --> 00:40:33,760 quite as good since he came back. 779 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:35,040 He's had a couple 7 target games. 780 00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,800 I didn't realize he'd only played the three games. 781 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,480 It's yeah, I mean, maybe it's possible. 782 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:43,960 I think there's the Titan premium scoring too. 783 00:40:43,960 --> 00:40:47,480 Just creates a weird range of outcomes where, I don't know, we 784 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:50,200 kind of boxed ourselves in last year where we made that like a 785 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:54,240 strict rule. Like if not Kelsey only. 786 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:58,840 I think if we didn't play Titan besides Kelsey, then we weren't 787 00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,600 playing Kelsey. I don't know if you need to make 788 00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,880 it that strict. I was making this case last 789 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:05,560 year, and I was wrong about it last year, and I'm making it 790 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,160 again this year because I think the Jake Ferguson thing was so 791 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,520 thin that you shouldn't try to play it. 792 00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,920 Basically that's my case this year. 793 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:15,280 Which, yeah, I think it's like it's also relative to ownership, 794 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:21,000 like it's well, very you. Know what do you gain? 795 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,000 Dink's not here to say what you win when you win. 796 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,720 I mean the massive swing. Yeah. 797 00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,360 If you are correct and all the Josh Allen teams get wiped out 798 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:34,400 and all the teams who pivoted to James Cook get wiped out, all 799 00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,800 the teams who just decided to fade and you nail the Dalton 800 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:39,960 Kincaid and the loss. I mean the amount of lineups you 801 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:43,000 are competing against the rest of the way is is. 802 00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:44,520 Crazy right? But just to clarify, I'm not 803 00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,960 saying you can't play Kincaid, I would just you would still get 804 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,320 that benefit if you played them as a solo tight end. 805 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:50,680 I'm. Saying but the reason? 806 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,360 I'm not trading like Kelsey is just the best player on his 807 00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,200 team. Yeah, that's the that's the 808 00:41:56,200 --> 00:42:00,120 problem is that you're now kind of forcing a pivot off of the 809 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,440 obvious KC play. And then you're like, well, I 810 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:05,000 want KC to lose. Well, you just had Buffalo lose, 811 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,600 so you kind of want KC to to be in the mix is a potential Super 812 00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,560 Bowl team for you so that you're not solely dependent on 813 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,920 Baltimore, unless it's Lamar. But the reason I'm forcing a 814 00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:19,840 pivot off the KC thing is when I think of how does Dalton Kincaid 815 00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,040 get there, there there are multiple paths certainly. 816 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,400 And we've talked about some of the two game stuff and he could 817 00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:26,680 score enough. But some of the outcomes are 818 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,800 he's not even the highest scoring player on his team 819 00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:31,840 because Kelsey just bottoms out. Like what if Kelsey just looks 820 00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,440 terrible in the post season? No Gray scores or whatever, 821 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,120 right? Then Kelsey's not the tight end 822 00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:41,200 and no one else is. And so by default, like Kincaid, 823 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:46,520 even like a 15 point game or two game stretch where James Cook 824 00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,160 scored 20 could be the optimal tight end because there's no 825 00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,960 clean tight end play the other the other tight ends. 826 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,680 I I get that part, yeah, gapped over. 827 00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:57,720 Them. I wasn't really considering that 828 00:42:57,720 --> 00:42:59,360 part of it. That's true, yeah. 829 00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:01,680 I think that I definitely think that's viable. 830 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,800 It's more I just think both are like I I think it's very viable 831 00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:07,560 to go the other. Like I don't think it's you have 832 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,320 to play Kincaid in a solo tight end lineup. 833 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:14,440 It's not not that you shouldn't play him there, but I'd be fine, 834 00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:16,160 you know? In the chat, he says, wearing a 835 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:22,080 Kincaid jersey. There you go. 836 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:23,960 Well, I'd say it for Andrews too. 837 00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,360 I'd say the same thing for Andrews. 838 00:43:25,360 --> 00:43:29,480 Kelsey, too. Yeah, yeah, it's the same idea. 839 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:35,880 I mean there there's some weird scenarios you could play 3 AFC 840 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,800 tight ends with an NFC rushing quarterback. 841 00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,680 I guess this does go back to me thinking that Kincaid's 842 00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:45,800 projection is just slimmer because the routes weren't 843 00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:47,160 necessarily great when he came back. 844 00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,560 I mentioned it earlier to you guys, but I was thinking of a 845 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,720 Mike Tomlin quote from earlier in the year where he was talking 846 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:53,560 about it's hard to board a moving train. 847 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:55,280 It was, I think in relation to Roman. 848 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,880 What does that mean or whatever like that? 849 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,800 They've been rolling and then you're coming back. 850 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:02,520 So Kincaid was out. The Bills are playing. 851 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,840 It's hard for Kincaid to got. It they started using Ty Johnson 852 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:08,680 a ton when Kincaid was out and then when he came back they ran 853 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,080 Knox more routes than him. Like two of the first couple 854 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:12,360 games back maybe he wasn't fully healthy. 855 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,080 I think he ran more routes and knocks One of these games. 856 00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:20,560 I don't have the exact data in front of me, but it's like I 857 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,480 thought coming into the year, he might be the focal point of the 858 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:24,120 passing game. I think they tried some stuff 859 00:44:24,120 --> 00:44:25,600 early. He wasn't as much as I wanted 860 00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,360 him to be. And then he got hurt and he 861 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,560 wasn't very effective. And then when he came back, it 862 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,520 was like, yeah, I mean, he's a part of our offense. 863 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,960 Like, we're not going to like, you know, make an effort to. 864 00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:36,600 We're doing a lot of other good things right now. 865 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,920 This is what we're doing. And you're trying to you're just 866 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:42,680 going to be ancillary to that at at this stage of the season. 867 00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:45,760 Maybe that's all like too much of a ball take or whatever. 868 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,720 But when Leonie pairs it with Andrews, I'm like, I don't see 869 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,160 an issue with it with Andrews. Zay Flowers is out and I think 870 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:54,120 Andrews could wind up being a stuck in the post season, you 871 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,080 know? Well, look. 872 00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,400 At this Andrews. Is back. 873 00:44:58,440 --> 00:44:59,880 Oh yeah. Drugging. 874 00:45:00,640 --> 00:45:03,120 Dink. How we doing buddy? 875 00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:07,680 Well, it's that time of year boys where I sweat NBA bets. 876 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:11,480 Well you guys talk about in FPC what NFFC? 877 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:16,120 What FFFPCI don't know what some of the PCs and FCS playoff? 878 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:19,160 Week and there's definitely FC NCS, you're right about that. 879 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,760 Yeah, well, we can give you the floor. 880 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,000 Like what do you want to talk about? 881 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,720 Paulo not having a minutes restriction tonight? 882 00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,160 Dank what? What do you want to get into? 883 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,160 Right now I just want I just want to I just want to see the 884 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,320 Bulls keep laying it on the Wizards So Jordan Poole and Alex 885 00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:36,640 are don't come back into the game. 886 00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:39,960 And as I say that, it looks like Alex R is in the game. 887 00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,320 So that's not going great. But no, something named Guy 888 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,560 Santos was taking up like half my day trying to figure out how 889 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,720 much that guy's going to play. It's it's a great time of the 890 00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:51,000 year in the NBA. I wasn't an NBA player. 891 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,080 It is earlier. I wasn't. 892 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:54,720 Sure. Why was it a discord channel 893 00:45:54,720 --> 00:45:58,200 where someone, I think it was mythology, posted a photo of GUI 894 00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:02,080 Santos's significant other? So people were going down the 895 00:46:02,080 --> 00:46:04,440 rabbit hole with you Drew, trying to figure out who GUI 896 00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:05,320 Santos was? So. 897 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,920 Congratulations. I would I would imagine GUI 898 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:10,800 Santos is a lucky man if people are posting. 899 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:17,440 Definitely. So, yeah, obviously you're, you 900 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,400 know, you've been focused on on NBA, but you've been in our in 901 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,720 our group chat here. Do you do you got any hot takes, 902 00:46:23,720 --> 00:46:25,120 you know, just coming and firing? 903 00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,880 Obviously your beloved Chicago Bears, the one thing that gets 904 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:29,720 you really fired up, aren't on this slate. 905 00:46:29,720 --> 00:46:33,760 But any hot takes for us? No, nothing, nothing super hot 906 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:38,360 other than I think, I mean, I don't know how hot this is. 907 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,920 I think the fire stuff in LA is going to have like a really big 908 00:46:42,920 --> 00:46:44,040 impact. I don't think those teams are 909 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:47,000 going to play well tomorrow. I think that's like a really, 910 00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:50,640 really big emotional thing that human beings are dealing with. 911 00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:55,560 And I think both the Rams or this weekend, I should say both 912 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,400 the Rams and the Chargers, I don't think they're going to 913 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,640 play well on the opening. Weekend. 914 00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:02,320 Wow. Yeah, yeah, I mean that that 915 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,280 part hasn't been discussed much. Obviously the line moved in 916 00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:08,880 Vikings favor a bit when that shifted, but like outside of 917 00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:11,120 that kind of like the mental aspect there. 918 00:47:11,800 --> 00:47:14,640 People aren't really talking about it on the Chargers side 919 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:19,120 because they're not playing in LA, but of course it's a huge 920 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,440 thing as well. So, yeah, yeah. 921 00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,000 I mean, we saw in the NBA the other night, like the Nuggets 922 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,160 were without Jokic, which usually they're like the worst 923 00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:27,760 team in the league. Whenever they're without Jokic, 924 00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,840 they're playing the Clippers team that Kawhi was away from 925 00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:32,880 the team because he was dealing with personal stuff related to 926 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,600 the fires. And the Nuggets won by like 35 927 00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:39,680 at home against otherwise a Clippers team that has played 928 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:42,120 most of the season without Kawhi, been really successful 929 00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,960 without Kawhi. So I think the mental toll on 930 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,240 these guys and I, I just think it's big I, I. 931 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,920 So yeah, that's my big take for this weekend. 932 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:54,280 I'm kind of expecting the LA teams unfortunately to to not 933 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,440 play their best I. Feel like it's hard to know how 934 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,720 humans are going to respond. I, you know, it's, but it's 935 00:48:01,720 --> 00:48:03,760 difficult. I'm, you know, surprised we 936 00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,520 haven't seen a little bit more in terms of the line movement 937 00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:11,240 stuff on that side of things. But we'll see. 938 00:48:11,240 --> 00:48:14,680 Yeah, but you know, playoff game versus NBA regular season game. 939 00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:16,920 For sure different. Big disparity, yeah. 940 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,280 For sure different and I understand like humans are 941 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,360 especially difficult for for you to understand like and try to 942 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:24,960 predict. You're the Dinkbot. 943 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:28,720 Did you do? I hadn't had a chance. 944 00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:31,640 Did you guys do establish the million early today? 945 00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,520 Yeah, we fired that off first thing in the morning. 946 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,160 Do you have any? Cuz we were talking about one 947 00:48:38,160 --> 00:48:39,320 spot. We were wondering if it would 948 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,320 trickle over into the playoff stuff as far as like Lattimore 949 00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:46,520 on Evans started to care a little bit more talk about that. 950 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:50,360 Do you have any single week DFS stuff that could potentially be 951 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,680 applicable? You know, we're talking about 952 00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,280 these spots where you play a team in a loss, you know, and, 953 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,440 and who could be in a, in a good spot, even in a bad, you know, 954 00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:59,920 team level set up. Yeah, I flag plants at 955 00:48:59,920 --> 00:49:02,720 Mcmillions. So, you know, I knew I was 956 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:07,320 coming onto the right show, knew the right narratives to to hit. 957 00:49:07,360 --> 00:49:10,560 And yeah, we made sure we made sure to get that recording in 958 00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:14,320 because almost every year I end up staying up way too late after 959 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,440 the stream and am completely dysfunctional on Saturday 960 00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,680 mornings of wild Card weekend. So we made sure to get that 961 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,560 stream in this morning. But yeah, I I think the 962 00:49:22,560 --> 00:49:25,000 Lattimore Mike Evans things got to be somewhat real. 963 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:29,520 Like, I was like 8 years of this stuff, so I don't know if I 964 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:31,680 don't know if his new team is going to try to take advantage 965 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,080 and make sure he's on Evans as much as possible. 966 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:37,720 But that's what I would be doing if I was Washington, yeah. 967 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,680 The chats making some interesting, Casey says 968 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:42,520 counterpoint LA strong motivation. 969 00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,360 Nick says he's kind of leaning the opposite, that he thought it 970 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,760 could be galvanizing for the Rams. 971 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,080 Playing for the community, all those things. 972 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,360 I mean, that's, that's hard, yeah. 973 00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:54,960 It it's certainly, I mean, it's like I think the emotions are 974 00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:58,120 going to run very high for sure. Like, I think that's definitely 975 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,440 gonna be the case. But I I agree with you, I would. 976 00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,640 Imagine that preparation is being impacted. 977 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:07,760 Right anything that throws off the NFL six game weekly schedule 978 00:50:08,120 --> 00:50:12,120 is tough to account for. I mean, we've seen it with, I 979 00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:15,280 mean, we got you on. I think one of the best examples 980 00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,320 of this this year was once the Bears fired terrible coaches, 981 00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:20,480 they still didn't have anyone in the building who could clearly 982 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:21,840 manage anything throughout the week. 983 00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,080 Were they practicing at all in the second-half of the year, do 984 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,240 you think because they. They were, really. 985 00:50:26,240 --> 00:50:27,000 Struggling. It's a. 986 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,040 Basic, I think, I think they used the first half of games to 987 00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,440 practice. I mean, they couldn't. 988 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:34,240 They literally like it was like drills in the first half of 989 00:50:34,240 --> 00:50:36,480 games and then they'd actually like score when they were down 990 00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,360 30. But yeah, just a completely 991 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,960 inept. And then end of the game, 992 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,640 they're like, how do we call timeouts? 993 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,840 What is the what? What sport is this? 994 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,920 Incredibly frustrating season. Yeah, I I think the stuff of 995 00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:53,960 getting displaced from your routine for a game and all of 996 00:50:53,960 --> 00:50:56,320 that, not to mention the added family dynamics. 997 00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,960 I mean, think in the NBA stuff, right, Kawhi was supposed to 998 00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,760 come back and like this stuff impacted him and he's like, I'm 999 00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:04,160 still taking some time off. Like there are the trickle down 1000 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:06,280 effects of that that I think could be, you know, very real. 1001 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:09,920 All right, let's see here fellas. 1002 00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:13,520 Any other takes you want to get off your chest or you want to 1003 00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:14,680 you want to build a line up here? 1004 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:17,400 I'm down for whatever. We all did our favorite play in 1005 00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:19,720 the whole tournament. Dinks come on every year and 1006 00:51:19,720 --> 00:51:22,400 giving us one play all the way back to the Gronk year. 1007 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,040 That usually is the nuts. So where's the dink nuts play? 1008 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,640 We got to get that all right. Let me, let me think through. 1009 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,160 Give me. No pressure, please give us. 1010 00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:33,640 No pressure. Figure this out. 1011 00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,200 Like 90 seconds and I'll have the nuts for you. 1012 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,000 Yeah, now you're. Clear. 1013 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:40,840 We have a few of these. It's snags one guy. 1014 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:42,600 Giving show and gives it. That's right. 1015 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,480 Ink on this side, yeah. Then the thing that ties them 1016 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,440 together is I never liked the pic and then it. 1017 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,960 Always there were just two guys we haven't talked about that I 1018 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,160 liked a little bit. Like generally we're not on to 1019 00:51:59,160 --> 00:52:04,160 like the one percenter plays, but I do think there's a like 1020 00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:07,400 Jameson Williams's target share is like high enough with his big 1021 00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,120 playability that you could play him. 1022 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:16,360 And going back to Pete talking about Jefferson being bad chalk, 1023 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,000 I think like the really obvious move for most people then is to 1024 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:22,360 play Addison or Hawkinson like the other pass catchers. 1025 00:52:22,360 --> 00:52:25,960 But man, 4% Aaron Jones. I know there's been some weird 1026 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,960 stuff with usage lately, but if they did just condense on to him 1027 00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:35,160 in the playoffs that's, you know, he he catches balls too. 1028 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:37,760 What are you guys? How are you guys projecting? 1029 00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,400 Aaron Jones? He does. 1030 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,560 I assume he has AQ tag Doc. Have you guys given any 1031 00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,120 additional work to Cam Akers like that's a it's a tricky 1. 1032 00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,920 Yeah, it is tricky. I can tell you. 1033 00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:53,880 We don't have like a big doc, but we also don't have it like 1034 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,120 condensing on to him like we might have it, you know, 1035 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:02,960 otherwise. So we have in terms of playing 1036 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:10,520 time, we've got Aaron Jones with a 68% carry share and Cam Akers 1037 00:53:10,520 --> 00:53:15,520 with a 29% carry share of their, you know, their designed 1038 00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:19,640 carries. So about two to one in favor of 1039 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:23,640 Aaron Jones. Kevin O'Connell loves Cam Akers, 1040 00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:26,080 but Aaron Jones is also. It really does. 1041 00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,960 Meaningfully better than Cam makers in football, so. 1042 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,880 I don't think it's like an amazing play, but it's, you 1043 00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:39,840 know, a team's primary running back in, in a decent total game 1044 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:43,440 that's just not going to be played at all is sometimes worth 1045 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:48,000 a gamble. Yeah, makes sense to me for 1046 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:50,040 sure. I think I think that's like in 1047 00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:53,520 the range on his ownership to be like he goes really late in the 1048 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,440 basketball stuff is one of those guys like him and Zay people 1049 00:53:56,440 --> 00:54:00,360 just like not taking this guy. It's just like I think Akers 1050 00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:04,080 coming in and scoring and it's just the vibes are not good on 1051 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,280 on the fantasy vibes. The way people feel about Jones 1052 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:07,600 is. Not good. 1053 00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,320 It's very easy to just not pick him, like in this contest in 1054 00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,720 particular. In like to give people some 1055 00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,240 frame of reference and I just was looking at your guys 1056 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:26,960 projections like you have him ahead of ahead of James Cook up 1057 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:28,600 just slightly below Kyron Williams. 1058 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,880 If you're trying to like figure out where that falls into play. 1059 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,080 This is for obviously just the wild card round, not the the 1060 00:54:35,080 --> 00:54:38,200 full playoffs. But like he's he's in that mix 1061 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:42,160 with, you know, Jacobs and Kyron and James Cook and yet doesn't 1062 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,280 necessarily seem like he's getting discussed even on the 1063 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,840 same wavelength that we are those other running backs. 1064 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,000 Dank you got the guy. Well, I want to hear. 1065 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,040 I don't want to. I'm afraid of duplicating so I 1066 00:54:55,040 --> 00:54:55,440 don't want. To. 1067 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,120 I think that's that's. If you duplicate then we just 1068 00:54:58,120 --> 00:54:59,920 know that's it. That's. 1069 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:04,240 It that's. It OK, the criteria is it's it's 1070 00:55:04,240 --> 00:55:07,480 going to be in the winning lineup and Corrine hates it. 1071 00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:08,440 That's the. Best. 1072 00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:10,840 Those are the two boxes you need to check. 1073 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,800 You have to check both boxes. It's Josh Jacobs. 1074 00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:22,560 How? Do. 1075 00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:25,480 You how we know for sure things had us muted all week? 1076 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,920 In our chat, I've said how much I like Jacob's like no less than 1077 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,360 five times. There's been a lot of messages 1078 00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:38,400 in that chat to be fair, even I have not seen. 1079 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,280 No, that chat, that chat's been muted long, long ago. 1080 00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,120 That's that's incredible. That Pat likes Shaw Jacobs. 1081 00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,480 Wow. Yeah, All right. 1082 00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,120 That's the guy. That's very Bayesian. 1083 00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:53,800 You know he's he's ready to to. Shift his. 1084 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,200 His priors here. Beautiful. 1085 00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,720 All right. I guess we'll have to rethink 1086 00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:06,960 the criteria then. Yeah, well, you can. 1087 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,160 I mean, to be fair, to be fair, Dick, I still do hate it. 1088 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:12,240 I really do. Deep down. 1089 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,640 I despise that I'm in on Josh Jacobs, but I am in on Josh 1090 00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,160 Jacobs. Yeah, I mean, it makes it makes 1091 00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:21,280 too much sense. And I think like the combination 1092 00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:25,200 of what you would expect their game plan to be in this week 1093 00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:28,720 down Christian Watson and then kind of how they've played the 1094 00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:33,160 second-half of the season really ever since the ankle injury for 1095 00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,080 Jordan Love. And then on top of that, like 1096 00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,360 the Philly fade or soft fade that kinda comes with that is 1097 00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,160 like really, I'd imagine really, really strong in this type of 1098 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,640 format as well as I imagine people are going to be loading 1099 00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:49,480 up on Sake 1 so. Yeah, it will be, yeah. 1100 00:56:49,720 --> 00:56:51,040 Yeah. All right. 1101 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,800 Let's build a line up here. We can go around and we can 1102 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:59,120 maybe talk about a few other spots as we as they come up. 1103 00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,680 And because we always get ourselves into some corners and 1104 00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:04,280 talk through what makes sense from both a, you know, 1105 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:08,640 individual pick level, but also for an overall lineup here. 1106 00:57:10,080 --> 00:57:12,400 You know, Dink, we always let our, you know, our first guest 1107 00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:14,480 of honor here, you know, kick us off. 1108 00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:17,240 Do you want to go ahead and slot Josh Jacobs in? 1109 00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,440 Let's let him. Let's preload Jacobs and then 1110 00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,880 let him pick something else because Pat and Dig are going to 1111 00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:24,120 fight over picking Jacobs. Yeah, start with me. 1112 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:25,640 Start with me and I'll go Jacobs. 1113 00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:29,760 OK, Yeah, Yeah, I appreciate one show around here. 1114 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,560 Sticking to the honored guest bit, I've. 1115 00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:37,560 Never seen a bit get shut down. By our corporate headquarters 1116 00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:40,200 just couldn't handle that one. All the Dick jokes you could 1117 00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:41,680 possibly handle but we can't have. 1118 00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:45,960 You guys need to learn is with Levitans tried to shut down the 1119 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:49,320 cash game bit for for years and I just tell him no so you guys 1120 00:57:49,320 --> 00:57:50,160 should have. Just told him no. 1121 00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:51,280 Yeah, you could. You should have powered. 1122 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,040 Through, obviously. Yeah, Leo. 1123 00:57:54,120 --> 00:57:56,320 Leo D's the guy with firm boundaries on bits, let me tell 1124 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,640 you. All right, so if we're going 1125 00:57:59,640 --> 00:58:06,520 with Jacobs, man, how saucy do we start? 1126 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,120 Yeah, we get saucy. We we've had some pretty saucy 1127 00:58:13,120 --> 00:58:15,280 on Streamline up builds. This this. 1128 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:16,720 Week, I think we go. A.J. 1129 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:19,200 Brown, OK. We're going to roll the roll the 1130 00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:20,240 mini. Let's do it. 1131 00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,480 There you go. So no, no soft fade here on the 1132 00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:30,120 eagles playing both sides of this game, but with not the, you 1133 00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:35,000 know, primary pieces there. Let's see Gretsch or are we 1134 00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:36,560 going to go? How do we want what order? 1135 00:58:36,560 --> 00:58:41,680 Do we want to go OK? Well, considering Dink now has 1136 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:47,400 said both Pats and my favorite plays now on this on this show 1137 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,840 here, let's some let's do it. You know what I'm not fucking 1138 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,840 scared of? Marshawn Lattimore. 1139 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,440 Come on. Come. 1140 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:59,840 On but like it's just. Blocking Bucky every chance he 1141 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:02,360 gets this week. You've got enough, You've got 1142 00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,000 enough. Megan Evans multiple times did 1143 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:05,680 we have? Bucky last. 1144 00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:07,680 Night. I think we've had Bucky on every 1145 00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:08,440 line. And we not. 1146 00:59:08,680 --> 00:59:11,960 Tuesday night I didn't get OK Tuesday I'll defer to you and 1147 00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:13,640 remember. Believe me, I wrote it down on 1148 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,400 my calendar. I'll never forget it. 1149 00:59:15,800 --> 00:59:18,440 It was a. I'm doing you a favor, Gretch. 1150 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,000 I'm trying to get this ownership closer in. 1151 00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,840 All right, so let's let's jam Mike Evans. 1152 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:25,880 Come on. Is it? 1153 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,840 It's me now. It is. 1154 00:59:29,440 --> 00:59:32,720 Let's do Mark Andrews. OK. 1155 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:36,360 Mark. Andrews, my other play that. 1156 00:59:36,560 --> 00:59:38,880 I want. You could still play, I know. 1157 00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:39,720 I know I. Know, I know. 1158 00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:43,600 Hey, Gretch, You see what these this flex, there's four of them 1159 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,920 here. You could. 1160 00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:48,640 You could put a lot of tight ends in there. 1161 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,360 All right, Pat, let me think. Let me think about this. 1162 00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:04,760 So we have Jacobs. OK, I'm going to say Jaden 1163 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:09,280 Daniels. OK, all right, now we're now 1164 01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:10,440 we're. Really think about this because 1165 01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:14,400 we got we got the Eagles maybe losing in round one and then 1166 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:15,440 we've. Got Evans. 1167 01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:16,600 I like it. That's a good play. 1168 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,520 And then they're going to the Packers are going to play 1169 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:23,680 Detroit, so the Commanders are going to the winner of the 1170 01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:26,880 Vikings. Evans is more viable probably in 1171 01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,800 a loss than in A2 game. I mean Buck is probably getting 1172 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:32,400 there in a 2 game. Yeah I love it. 1173 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:39,080 My pick I will do so. We got both sides of two first 1174 01:00:39,080 --> 01:00:41,520 round games already. Got to start picking some 1175 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:43,840 winners. I could take Courtland Sutton 1176 01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:46,320 and make Leonie cry, That would be fun. 1177 01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,560 But we're fading Josh Allen. So yeah, we've already. 1178 01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:51,560 Faded. He's like, I hate that about 1179 01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,000 Leonie. He's a fan, but he's like, 1180 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:55,880 that's actually smart. That's actually really sharp, 1181 01:00:55,880 --> 01:00:57,920 Greg. Yeah, that's very level headed. 1182 01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:06,200 All right, I'm gonna take. I'm thinking of the different 1183 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:10,120 games real quick. Yeah, no, I'll go something. 1184 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:16,640 I like that. OK, well, we got our oh as a 1185 01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:20,120 soft fade is a is definitely a viable path. 1186 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:22,800 You've been in two games potentially. 1187 01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:30,560 OK, back to you, Dink. We have very little chalk in 1188 01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:41,120 this line. Yeah, so we have Andrews. 1189 01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:46,360 We haven't touched Chargers, Texans, we haven't touched Rams, 1190 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:49,120 Vikings. There's a lot of Chuck there. 1191 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:52,080 And and we're we're fading the bills I. 1192 01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,600 Didn't want to pick that one because Dink had a had a take on 1193 01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:56,880 the Rams. So that's when I was thinking 1194 01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:58,120 about the different games. I was like. 1195 01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:04,920 Yeah. I I mean, I think, I think that 1196 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:11,120 the challenge with the Rams is like, I think, I think Puka's 1197 01:02:11,120 --> 01:02:17,000 very likely in most situation, especially a losing situation, I 1198 01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,840 think Puka's very likely to be their leading scorer and could 1199 01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:23,480 still pile up enough receptions. So even though I think they 1200 01:02:23,480 --> 01:02:27,280 would lose, I think like I think Puka's still pretty good in 1201 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:33,360 those situations. And I don't like yeah, so I'll 1202 01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:35,200 go Puka, yeah. That's a good point. 1203 01:02:36,520 --> 01:02:38,440 Yeah. I also think with this lineup, 1204 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:43,480 we we would ideally like one of the two, the Rams of the Vikings 1205 01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,760 is going to lose to the other and then the other team is going 1206 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,240 to lose to the commanders is an ideal situation. 1207 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:53,320 So yeah, makes a lot of sense to go puka. 1208 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:58,760 Yeah, I think we can on the same kind of thought process with 1209 01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,160 Puka. I think we can play. 1210 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:06,920 We can play LAD on this team. And I think that works a lot 1211 01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:12,240 too, because what the Sutton pick I'm saying sort of forcing 1212 01:03:12,240 --> 01:03:15,360 us to be to be saying that that Buffalo could get bounced in 1213 01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,960 round one. You want, I think the Chargers 1214 01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,600 to win over Houston because I really think they're more alive 1215 01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,640 to then go beat the Ravens. We're hoping that Allen and 1216 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:25,120 Lamar, that that's a really thin one. 1217 01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,240 But if Allen, Lamar both get bounced before, playing three 1218 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:31,960 games meaningfully helps the Daniels pick right? 1219 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:38,000 Yeah, I'm taking Tyler Dass. OK, I thought you were going to 1220 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:39,160 say tie reel shavers for a second. 1221 01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,600 I like, I like it. We're we're like talking about 1222 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:49,840 Liotti City over there. Like he's waiting for the volley 1223 01:03:49,840 --> 01:03:51,960 back in speed chess. He's like Tyler Bass. 1224 01:03:54,600 --> 01:03:59,720 No nonsense. All right, I'll go. 1225 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:01,960 I'll go. Justin Jefferson, OK. 1226 01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:04,680 Complete this one. I don't think you can do that. 1227 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:08,760 That means we're fading one of. Or do we need Kelsey? 1228 01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:10,440 He can. He, he can. 1229 01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:14,800 Yeah, that's probably, yeah. Yeah. 1230 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:19,080 We still need a lion. We still need a lion, and we 1231 01:04:19,080 --> 01:04:20,640 don't have a Raven yet. Oh no, we have Andrews. 1232 01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:23,240 We're going to have to play Gibbs, I think like, yeah, 1233 01:04:23,240 --> 01:04:25,320 Gibbs, I don't want to yeah, pick, but like. 1234 01:04:25,360 --> 01:04:27,040 Yeah, we're going to have to. Yeah, do Gibbs. 1235 01:04:27,960 --> 01:04:29,920 That's what I was. Going to We're fading Texans, 1236 01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:33,200 right? We're fading Texans probably 1237 01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:34,560 fade Texans, right? Yeah. 1238 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:36,680 Texans. Steelers. 1239 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:44,760 You could do Jefferson and hope Kansas City loses, but it seems 1240 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,640 like we've got enough lovers pulled here, though. 1241 01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:48,480 Oh. Yeah, the Kansas City thing was 1242 01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:51,920 the one I was thinking of. I couldn't remember what. 1243 01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,200 They so that would be. Well, we don't. 1244 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,560 We only have one house. Have Kansas City lose. 1245 01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,640 So I still Kelsey's probably who I should take, not Jefferson. 1246 01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:00,600 Yeah, Yeah, I think that's right. 1247 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:04,760 Yeah. I think I'd play Minnesota 1248 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:09,440 defense here, but. I think it's it's your pick. 1249 01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:12,160 So that's sort of one. Yeah, that's a good. 1250 01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:14,320 Play I play Minnesota defense here. 1251 01:05:14,680 --> 01:05:18,600 Yeah, and they're they're not gonna get used much at all. 1252 01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:23,280 All right, here's the team. Jayden Daniels, Jamir Gibbs, 1253 01:05:23,280 --> 01:05:25,400 Josh Jacobs, Mike Evans, A.J. Brown, Pokonuku. 1254 01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:28,200 Ladd Mcconkey, Cortland Sutton, Travis Kelsey, Mark Andrews, 1255 01:05:28,200 --> 01:05:32,880 Tyler Bass, Minnesota Defense. I feel like, oh, go ahead, I. 1256 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:35,960 Was going to say the reason the Jefferson thing jumped out to me 1257 01:05:35,960 --> 01:05:38,960 immediately was when we fade, we're essentially fading both 1258 01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:43,080 the Ravens and the Bills for the Daniels pick and as part of the 1259 01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:44,680 Sutton play. Obviously we have a soft fade on 1260 01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:46,280 the Bills. So we're we're significantly 1261 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:48,920 fading the Bills. Andrews could be the play, but 1262 01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,160 probably in three or four, especially a Super Bowl run 1263 01:05:51,160 --> 01:05:52,720 you're talking about, Lamar you're talking about. 1264 01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,440 Yeah, it has to be. You're right. 1265 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,080 It has to be Kelsey. So it kind. 1266 01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:59,040 Of has to be the the Chiefs in the Super Bowl in AIC, unless 1267 01:05:59,040 --> 01:06:01,200 you're really picking like the Chargers or somebody to. 1268 01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:07,040 Go yeah, and also yeah. It just it gives you more outs 1269 01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:11,760 on Daniels playing less games. Right, exactly right. 1270 01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:16,880 Yeah, Daniels in two could. Be Daniels could win in two 1271 01:06:17,040 --> 01:06:19,840 games in this lineup. If Bills lose in Round 1, 1272 01:06:19,840 --> 01:06:24,320 Daniels can be optimal in two. Yeah, we also picked the Eagles 1273 01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:26,760 to lose in round one. Like if all the all the dual 1274 01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:30,560 threat QBs get bounced early, I mean, that's that's not crazy. 1275 01:06:31,560 --> 01:06:34,040 It's not likely. But who said it was likely? 1276 01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:40,600 You want to put Isaiah like that, I feel. 1277 01:06:40,600 --> 01:06:43,120 Like, I could get the chalk Super Bowl and still win with 1278 01:06:43,120 --> 01:06:44,880 this lineup. You just need really need 1279 01:06:45,200 --> 01:06:46,680 obviously. This is a sick lineup. 1280 01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,160 But. This tells us specifically this. 1281 01:06:50,320 --> 01:06:52,000 This lad pretty much fades every team. 1282 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,360 Well, the good news is this team has zero chance of being duped. 1283 01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:00,280 That's our goal. But I mean this, this team, this 1284 01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:03,480 team with a, with a one seed Super Bowl. 1285 01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,800 Yeah. Is is very very live. 1286 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:12,400 As long as you get Washington, you would need you need both 1287 01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,480 offsets on the NFC side. You need, you need not even, you 1288 01:07:16,480 --> 01:07:19,000 need Washington to win and Denver to win. 1289 01:07:19,040 --> 01:07:21,800 You get those two things, you've got a shot. 1290 01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:26,160 Hey, Pat, bring down Mike Evans ownership just a little bit to 1291 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,840 why we're at it here. Big silly, no Big billion love 1292 01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:31,800 with Lattimore in Washington. Dude. 1293 01:07:32,080 --> 01:07:33,840 Evans a legit thing that's. A good play. 1294 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:39,000 Mike Evans is coming in at 12%. He's he's going to be below 30, 1295 01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:42,520 I think, yeah. I'm silly I. 1296 01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,760 Mean if he comes on in flag plants, McMillan, the 1297 01:07:46,360 --> 01:07:48,840 quarterback Bros are are out and about. 1298 01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:53,440 He's coming in low. They could also like he could 1299 01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,520 have an OK game and they win given that they're favorites and 1300 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:59,640 then have the better game the next week. 1301 01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,200 This was the worry early in the week. 1302 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:04,680 I was worried Bucky would be shocked. 1303 01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,280 But why can't we just have nice things? 1304 01:08:07,160 --> 01:08:10,560 It just seemed, it seemed like early in the week we were we 1305 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,760 were thinking it could be Evans, but Nope, nobody's playing 1306 01:08:12,760 --> 01:08:14,280 Evans. Does anyone wanted to play Evans 1307 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,479 other than beat this whole week? I haven't heard anyone say let's 1308 01:08:17,479 --> 01:08:19,640 put Evans in the lineup where I want to play Evans. 1309 01:08:19,640 --> 01:08:22,479 It's all like Evans will be chalky, but let's go Bucky here. 1310 01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:29,720 God, I guess I'm on Evans Island. 1311 01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,600 I'm I'm with you man. No, it's a good play. 1312 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:35,000 He's a good. I mean, the further the 1313 01:08:35,000 --> 01:08:37,200 ownership comes down and he gets, the better play he gets. 1314 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,240 Let's just fucking jam Evans, obviously. 1315 01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,800 Like, yeah, he's like the Hall of Fame wide receiver. 1316 01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:45,040 It does. It always reminds me like what a 1317 01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:47,399 journey we come on. You know, it was only Monday 1318 01:08:47,399 --> 01:08:49,279 when we first started doing this, but that feels like an 1319 01:08:49,279 --> 01:08:52,279 eternity ago when we made the boomer optimal and at the time 1320 01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:56,319 it felt so indecisive that we gave them Co boomer optimal 1321 01:08:56,319 --> 01:08:58,560 shock status. Like that's the one time we've 1322 01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,800 ever put two players from the same team. 1323 01:09:00,960 --> 01:09:04,520 We put Bucky and Mike Evans and now it's separated in a massive 1324 01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:07,680 way. Yeah, I know. 1325 01:09:09,040 --> 01:09:12,319 And that was one where I had it as Evans, I think, and then we. 1326 01:09:13,319 --> 01:09:16,920 Sonded too, and I was telling you guys both had Evans and I 1327 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:18,720 was like, I think it's probably Bucky. 1328 01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:20,399 Yeah, as much as I don't want it to be. 1329 01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,439 No, you convinced me. And then it was it's just it's 1330 01:09:23,439 --> 01:09:27,120 just been kind of a drum beat. Bucky's looked really good. 1331 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,680 And then the matchup, right, you get like, and that's the way 1332 01:09:29,680 --> 01:09:31,600 every it's going to go for everyone this week there. 1333 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:33,760 It's like, who are the players that want to play? 1334 01:09:33,760 --> 01:09:35,520 OK, now let me look more into the games. 1335 01:09:35,640 --> 01:09:38,960 Help me break those ties. Yeah, and this is a very clear 1336 01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:40,800 cut, you know. Great. 1337 01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:43,240 Well, it was. And it was also Leonie coming on 1338 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:47,359 on Tuesday and having Bucky at ETR projected ahead of Saquon 1339 01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:51,560 Barkley and Derrick Henry, which maybe was like a like a gong 1340 01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:56,480 really on Tuesday. Yeah, use the symbols. 1341 01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:07,280 Oh my goodness. Still have Bucky RV22IN points 1342 01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:13,280 per game for FFPC. Yeah, well, my see, my hope was 1343 01:10:13,400 --> 01:10:15,480 here. Dink, This was my take the other 1344 01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:17,280 day. If we could get some a default 1345 01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:21,080 app discount because you have to scroll so far down to find Bucky 1346 01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:24,400 in the points, like right next to Rashad White. 1347 01:10:24,400 --> 01:10:26,920 I was like, baby, baby's a little out of sight, out of 1348 01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,840 white. The Bucky The Bucky's team is 1349 01:10:29,840 --> 01:10:31,040 too strong. People. 1350 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:33,960 People love Bucky. The crazy part isn't the. 1351 01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:36,760 Do you think if his name was Charles, we'd like him enough? 1352 01:10:36,840 --> 01:10:38,440 Like as much. If it was like Charles. 1353 01:10:38,440 --> 01:10:40,080 Irving. Charles Irving. 1354 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:42,640 Charles Irving. Charles Irving is like 32% 1355 01:10:43,040 --> 01:10:45,200 Chucky Irving. Oh, it could. 1356 01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,160 Well, OK, maybe not Charles. Yeah, maybe just Chris Chucky. 1357 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:50,800 Irving is fun, Charlie, just. Chris. 1358 01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:53,320 Chris Irving, the curator. Yeah, Like, no one. 1359 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:54,360 No one. 'S. 1360 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,320 Playing that the crazy thing though out of this is is the 1361 01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,400 Evans hate. It's not the Bucky love, it's 1362 01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,600 the Evans hate. Like that's. 1363 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:03,320 I know. That it's surprising. 1364 01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:08,400 Yeah, yeah. There's also like almost all my 1365 01:11:08,400 --> 01:11:11,280 experience with this because I'm usually the guy who's coming in 1366 01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:14,360 with like the well, this guy could outscore this guy in one 1367 01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,600 game and if they lose, it could be enough that like you don't 1368 01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:20,560 really need them. That take is usually bad because 1369 01:11:20,760 --> 01:11:26,520 the, the like in this, in this case, like if you wanted to play 1370 01:11:26,520 --> 01:11:32,640 MC millions or whatever at like 1-2 percent compared to like 1371 01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:38,800 Evans at like 30%. Evans is not 15 times more 1372 01:11:38,800 --> 01:11:42,040 likely to outscore him in one game, but he's probably 15 times 1373 01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:44,520 more likely to outscore him in two and definitely more than 1374 01:11:44,520 --> 01:11:46,960 that in three. And so like, it's, it's, it's 1375 01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:49,400 just such a narrow, I think sometimes with these types of 1376 01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:53,200 contests, we focus on two narrow of a path and we get like 1377 01:11:53,200 --> 01:11:56,680 excited by this very narrow path of this like 1 offshoot play. 1378 01:11:56,920 --> 01:11:59,400 And then people think they can play that like 1 offshoot play 1379 01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:00,960 and then chalk up the rest of the line up. 1380 01:12:01,240 --> 01:12:03,640 And it's just like those end up being kind of bad line UPS. 1381 01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:05,920 I think it's true, Yeah, this is. 1382 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,240 Yeah, we talked about this at the beginning, but it's like 1383 01:12:08,320 --> 01:12:11,360 you're better off predicting an upset that changes your whole 1384 01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:16,280 team than you are projecting A1 random guy to like maybe 1385 01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:18,280 outscore the other guy by 5 points. 1386 01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:24,200 Yep, Yep. Well, dudes, I think, I think 1387 01:12:24,200 --> 01:12:27,440 we're going to power this down. We've said all there. 1388 01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,720 To say this comment is made Brian grievance versus Evans, 1389 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:33,880 there's less people worried than Lattimore narrative. 1390 01:12:40,200 --> 01:12:41,920 And someone said we're better than the Evans take. 1391 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:45,200 To be clear, we're only trying to predict what the field does 1392 01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:47,360 when we're talking about the Evans Bucky stuff. 1393 01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:48,880 We're not saying we won't play Evans. 1394 01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:50,360 What? Evans take that. 1395 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:53,360 We think Evans is a good player or that he's going to be. 1396 01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:56,400 He was the guy that wanted McMillan because Evans is 1397 01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,320 getting shut down. Oh, so he's actually putting the 1398 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,080 narrative OK. Also, like, isn't it so funny 1399 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:05,560 how quickly like Mike Evans just had his 11th straight year with 1400 01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,360 1000 yards? It was like one of the coolest 1401 01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:09,200 moments of the NFL season than building that. 1402 01:13:09,280 --> 01:13:12,920 And we've just like he's like the last remaining dude. 1403 01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:16,320 You know, Brandon Cooks was in that draft class fucking Cody 1404 01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,240 Lattimore out. It's like one of the greatest 1405 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:19,960 wide receivers to ever play down. 1406 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,680 Like he's going to get fucking shut down by Marshall. 1407 01:13:21,800 --> 01:13:24,480 And the quarterback you were worried about wasn't even 1408 01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:27,160 certain to play. Is playing on one hamstring in 1409 01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,480 the most like reactionary position on the field probably 1410 01:13:30,480 --> 01:13:31,680 going to? We get torched the whole 1411 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,240 freaking game? I mean what are? 1412 01:13:33,360 --> 01:13:35,160 We talking about Mike Evans revenge. 1413 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:39,400 All these years of pent up animosity and revenge and Mike 1414 01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:44,200 Evans is finally shit. Gun is weakened opponent and 1415 01:13:44,480 --> 01:13:47,640 he's ready to sweep the leg like Evans. 1416 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:50,080 Sweep the leg. Week. 1417 01:13:50,760 --> 01:13:54,200 I actually think, what if he gets suspended, you know, then 1418 01:13:54,200 --> 01:13:59,120 there's two games. I just imagine no Deke was the 1419 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:00,600 initial guy who said he wanted Pat. 1420 01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:02,640 Like Steve Kordacki doing it I feel like. 1421 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:10,600 Let's go it. Up, dude. 1422 01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,040 I mean, the Evans revenge game thing, if they put Lattimore on 1423 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:17,880 an island with one hamstring on Mike Evans, like that's how the 1424 01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,000 Bucks are going to win. They're going to just throw it 1425 01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:23,800 up to him. I'm, I'm fully in on the Evans. 1426 01:14:23,960 --> 01:14:27,160 I I'm joining you guys, Pete and Leone on your Evans Island. 1427 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:31,720 There, Greg, you're you're a roller coaster of emotions with. 1428 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:33,760 Buddies, I'm swimming over there. 1429 01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:36,720 Yeah, it's almost like we're going to have about even amounts 1430 01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:41,320 of both. All right, ship chasing playoff 1431 01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:43,000 week. Always a blast. 1432 01:14:43,000 --> 01:14:45,440 Thank you to all of our guests, starting with, you know, Hassan 1433 01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:50,080 and Raheem Boomer opto show. We had Pat, you know, share all 1434 01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:52,080 of his projections with us on Tuesday. 1435 01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,360 We had Draco and Chris G yesterday. 1436 01:14:55,360 --> 01:15:00,720 And then obviously our ETM guys, Leone and Dink making time in 1437 01:15:00,720 --> 01:15:03,640 their busy schedules to to chop it up with us. 1438 01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,160 And yeah, hopefully you guys all enjoyed this week. 1439 01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:11,840 I know all of us here, Gratchpad myself, look forward to it every 1440 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,880 year. And yeah, lots of stuff to 1441 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:15,240 draft. I know you guys got playoff 1442 01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,800 basketball contest, you got DFS, you got all kinds of stuff going 1443 01:15:18,800 --> 01:15:20,200 on. So good luck. 1444 01:15:20,200 --> 01:15:23,080 Hopefully we can get another, you know, member from the the 1445 01:15:23,080 --> 01:15:25,000 ship chasing community taking it down. 1446 01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,360 I see Toyo jumping in here becoming a member after taking 1447 01:15:28,360 --> 01:15:32,400 it down last year. So any, any final words from any 1448 01:15:32,400 --> 01:15:38,200 of you guys before we sign off? It's always like blast, it's 1449 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:41,920 always a blast every year. And you know, it's like, all 1450 01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:44,800 right, got to get the ownership projection fired up, you know, 1451 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:48,600 see, and this year it's been probably more fun than ever. 1452 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:51,720 I just, there's something about it, you know, the way like you 1453 01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:53,360 kind of things shift for the week. 1454 01:15:53,960 --> 01:15:55,600 Get a sense of what everyone wants to play. 1455 01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,160 It's such a simple contest in terms of the rules, but just 1456 01:15:59,160 --> 01:16:00,920 trying to figure out where a little sentiment is because 1457 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:01,840 that's really what it comes down to. 1458 01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,720 It's kind of the ultimate leverage contest. 1459 01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,800 Beautiful dink Leone, any final words here? 1460 01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,280 Echoing what Crane said, I told this to Peter and Crane before 1461 01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:16,080 the show, but I was driving home from dinner and I was like, 1462 01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:19,600 every year it's like we decide to get together and pay 10 grand 1463 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,240 to do a school project for a week. 1464 01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:27,400 So you were actually telling Gretsch too, but Pete hadn't let 1465 01:16:27,400 --> 01:16:31,880 him in the. Listening in the background. 1466 01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,320 All right, all right. I think that's it. 1467 01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:39,880 We don't know what our schedule is going to be next week. 1468 01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:43,000 We need to decompress a little from this. 1469 01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:46,440 I will say I'm doing my after dark show tomorrow. 1470 01:16:46,440 --> 01:16:49,200 So I'm going to be I think just going to be going live during 1471 01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,720 the the Ravens Steelers game, maybe around 9:00 shooting the 1472 01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:53,880 shit. If you guys are watching that 1473 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:56,120 game, you can join me over on my channel. 1474 01:16:56,120 --> 01:16:58,400 Otherwise, we'll be in touch with kind of our schedule plans 1475 01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,000 going forward. But everyone enjoy the weekend. 1476 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:04,320 Good luck with all your teams and we'll see you when we see 1477 01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:35,040 you. Yeah.