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To man-to-man tonight. 
Been Gratz with the much 

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deserved by week here. 
But we got Pat. 

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We got Pete. 
How we doing path? 

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Doing good. 
How you doing? 

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I'm doing good. 
I'm doing good. 

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I was in, was in California last
weekend with my buddies. 

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So always a little slow 
recovering after taking the 

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red-eye back getting in Monday 
morning at 5 a.m. but now I'm 

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feeling myself again. 
I know the feeling yeah, 

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feeling. 
This one was actually I feel 

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like generally when I've done 
those red eyes, you know, from 

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Vegas and they'll normally be 
like a 10 or 11 p.m. flight and 

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you'll get in at like, 6:30 or 
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This one was in earlier red-eye,
so I got in at 5 a.m. and he 

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even landed a little earlier. 
So I was actually able to sleep.

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Five or six hours before even 
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Monday, which was a huge help. 
Yeah, I can't really sleep on 

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planes so that's actually a kind
of a genius move. 

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You get in early enough for. 
You can like go back to bed that

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that was actually, it was funny 
to that you say that because 

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normally I can sleep on red eyes
because I'm just so exhausted. 

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But, you know, my buddy cam we 
had flown from Reno because 

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we're in Tahoe, down to San 
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And then I was doing the red-eye
from San Diego and I was kind of

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like dozing off on that first 
flight because I was just so 

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tired. 
And then that kind of Of reset 

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me. 
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II was more wide awake and I'm 
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everyone sleeping. 
I'm like, fuck I'm not gonna be 

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able to fall asleep right away 
and I was so stubborn to because

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I was like, I could put on 
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whatever. 
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want to fall asleep at the guy 
in front of me, was watching 

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hangover. 
And so, I just watched his 

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hangover on, you know, even 
though I could watch it on my 

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TV, but I was just like, so I 
watched an hour of Hangover with

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no audio. 
That's what I'm so much quicker 

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to give up on on the planes 
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I won't be able to sleep anyway.
But yeah, I would I would have 

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the hangover on after about 
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Yeah, yeah, let me say it really
holds up with no audio all these

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years. 
It, I will say watching Zack 

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Galifianakis just because he is 
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his body and just stick you late
so much that he was, I was like,

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legit laughing at a few moments.
Just not even know. 

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It was being said. 
Where did you, what did you do 

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for the game? 
So you just hold up in your 

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apartment and watch them all 
this weekend. 

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There's a bar, but we went to, 
for the, the Saturday game. 

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It's kind of pretty, pretty 
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So, we went there and checked 
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And then, there's this 
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We went to this Korean place 
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We really liked it as like a 
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of pitch itself. 
Fast food, but it was really, 

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really good. 
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really, they weren't doing very 
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kind of like thinking it was 
just like, kind of this like 

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junkie fast food-type Place. 
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So the closed. 
So we were bombed and since then

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it's like clearly just reopened 
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So we went there to check out 
the new, it's actually better 

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now that they because now 
they're like trying to be a 

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fancy restaurant but it's like a
well-priced fancy restaurants. 

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We went there and watched Part 
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And I just came back here and 
watch the Chiefs bills. 

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There you go. 
Yeah, Jeremy, come on Pete. 

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Listen to Red Zone with no video
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idea. 
This is I did that to myself. 

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Oh my god. 
Um yeah. 

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And I as I was, I think I was 
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with spags, but we because of 
just how to get our flight 

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situated. 
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of bills Chiefs, at the Reno 
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sure I was done because we're 
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second half and I was like 
there's no chance like Southwest

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Wi-Fi is going to allow me to 
stream blah blah but they 

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actually have like the live TV 
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And like was it a perfect HD 
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watch that game on a plane? 
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So that that felt like a miracle
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I was on the phone with my 
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last Five minutes of Regulation 
into overtime and because I'm 

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streaming it, he was ahead of 
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like those plate. 
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All the big plays down at the 
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He was muting himself as soon as
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Is snapped on his own because he
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It was like, oh, man. 
That was big stuff. 

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Anyway, actually seeing it live 
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ways, an advantage over my 
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don't delay. 
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our group chat with us Leone, in
Gretsch, where you could tell 

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it's one where tilting, because 
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with like, words, not with any 
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like emotional reactions. 
And then we're like, wait, what 

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happened? 
And then we, all realize that 

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we're actually all watching it 
and the saved real Thai. 

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But we're just so sensitive to 
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the drop, or reacting to him, 
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oil? 
I just I can't remember it 

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wasn't now but I did something 
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a player or something or like or
tilting, the player wasn't 

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involved and then they caught a 
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So like we had one of those 
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There's like, no, I just 
happened to say this guy's name 

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like seconds before something 
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Yeah. 
Tizen peas for Michael Leone. 

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Absolutely my God rudel loss. 
I mean, even going into that 

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game, just knowing that that 
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Championship game was Just like 
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hazy at the Super Bowl. 
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yeah, it's unfortunate like 
Bangles. 

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I was obviously happy that the 
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that they would get in an 
up-tempo game with either of 

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these guys, but it does feel 
like we were robbed of a even 

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higher Stakes. 
Game between these two teams. 

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It does, it really does. 
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say maybe it's out of order but 
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Bangles facing the Chiefs. 
You know, where that, you know, 

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Bangles bills have been great 
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But that I think the Bangles can
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about the way the Bengals have 
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Even with all the sack issues 
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And you know bro took nine 
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strong password over expected. 
They're gone. 

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Of Leaning into things. 
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for the walkthrough. 
I think some of their protection

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issues were like it's just like 
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typically do. 
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know, even though they have a 
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There's definitely like a 
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know, protected a lot better 
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and were able to get a rematch 
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which would be a lot of fun. 
I know when I saw that line open

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up at seven. 
I was like, man that 7 feels 

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like a lot for a team that the 
Bangles literally be just a few 

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weeks ago. 
Obviously this one is in Kansas 

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City but still seven and then I 
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coming. 
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shit. 
It's it is this the square play 

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to betting The Bangles but they 
feel as as Evan says here 

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extremely live in this spot 
Yeah, they definitely do. 

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They definitely do. 
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are of the, I don't know. 
What would you have set the line

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at if you were, if you were a 
bookmaker, I mean, I know this 

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sound now, it's like oh, you're 
only talking about like one and 

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a half or two points, but it 
does feel more like a four and a

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half, five and a half kind of 
thing. 

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I agree. 
Yeah. 

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I think like anywhere in that 
mid-range like but I would have 

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it below 6. 
So to have it at seven is I mean

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that that I agree that's a high 
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Yeah, and also just thinking, I 
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like, who do you feel better 
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You know, it's like I'd rather 
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If I was betting, Jimmy G, then 
you know, betting Borough, like 

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I feel a lot better hanging. 
My hat on Joe burrow getting in 

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a shootout or a nice sun because
we still haven't seen the Jimmy 

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G game. 
They've been fortunate to play 

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all these games close and 
they're able to do what they 

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want to do in those games. 
But we have not seen, have we 

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seen them down 10 or 14 points 
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Yeah no I mean I guess you know 
they'd been down over the course

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of the season and done. 
Okay because they what the thing

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about the 49ers is that they 
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not having a counter punch but 
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just opens them up to a 
devastating counterpunch from 

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the other side but they will 
counter punch and have Jimmy 

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actually drop back and pass if 
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But they try to avoid it as much
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barely throwing like, he's just 
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So I think like, I actually 
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Rams because the rain the Rams 
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slightly past heavy against the 
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are major Past bottle and 
they've been shifting in our 

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huge run-heavy direction for 
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Now they didn't take advantage 
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I don't think McVeigh really 
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Obviously San Francisco's pass 
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we could again for the third 
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into a run first battle with the
opposing team, which is exactly 

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where they want to be. 
If we get Jimmy in the Super 

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Bowl, I'd need like 10 points 
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I'm not, I'm not, I don't know 
if I take it because you could 

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just see them the Chiefs, I 
think in this condition they 

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think they can hang like a 20 
Point Victory on the They keep 

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up well, and that's, that's what
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So smart with their Debo, Samuel
usage, right? 

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Where they truly have to get 
really creative on offense and, 

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you know, in a, they did get 
those plays against the Packers,

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where, you know, George Kettle. 
Picks up those really big first 

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downs, but basically, taking the
ball out of Jimmy G's hands as 

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much as they can. 
And I always think about it 

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encounter to remember watching 
like, Dez Bryant back in the day

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even when he was at his Peak and
he would just get erased for an 

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entire game because they just 
let him get, I sewed out wide 

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and they wouldn't Force the ball
to him or anything and then you 

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watch Debo and it's like, no, we
are going to make sure this guy 

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is touching the ball multiple 
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We have to. 
It's the only way we can succeed

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and that at least, gives me some
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It gives me some confidence in 
their offense, but it's like the

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fact that they've taken their 
number one, wide receiver and 

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made him. 
In some ways, a running back, 

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who is at times a wide receiver 
rather than a wide receivers at 

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times running back, it just 
tells you just how tilted 

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towards the Run they've gone. 
I mean they're crazy tilted 

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toward the run these days and it
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where I'm blonde. 
I'm frankly Blown Away by the 

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Packers game plan in that game, 
you know, all the Special Teams 

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stuff. 
Like oh man. 

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So unlucky that that they had 
the The block pain and it's 

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like, dude, they scored 10 
points scored 10 points at home 

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against the 49ers. 
Who like? 

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Yeah, they've good pass rush, 
but they're not actually an 

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elite defense Riders, supposed 
to win the MVP, you got to score

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more than 10 points. 
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that Rogers wasn't as efficient 
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rusher that was predictable. 
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play Crazy. 
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season. 
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to play Slow against them. 
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that thing about how possessions
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baseball game and, you know, and
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other. 
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talked about how many of these 
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before the game started. 
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the way they play. 
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to, I mean, that's kind of what 
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the Cowboys, are play way 
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their coaching there. 
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will push the, the 49ers Off 
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he will because, because of the 
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over the last week, for five 
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that. 
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let him get away with it, but 
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the the Chiefs will be playing 
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the Chiefs won't let the 49ers 
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Yeah the Packers are so weird in
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The how slow they play weren't 
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uses the most clock before 
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teams near the goal line, 
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of every Run play like pad is 
passing stats. 

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It's just such a like weird. 
A nation because they do like to

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throw in a lot of spots they do,
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something which was like higher 
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league. 
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were solidly a pass heavy team 
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the level. 
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have a quarterback playing 
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played extremely efficiently all
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about you. 
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stuff. 
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about, like, total expected 
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just total, you know, Rogers was
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of other good quarterbacks 
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plays in that goes to the PACE 
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the Vikings where he threw a 75 
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of the game, right? 
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before. 
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Kirk Cousins drive down the 
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If I can just got a game-winning
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Cousins almost threw an 
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know they had gotten beat by an 
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didn't leave himself another 
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to them against the 49ers. 
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that loss. 
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one thing to play slow in be the
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situation, which the Packers 
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It's another thing to have the 
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week before. 
Run their exact game plan. 

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The Cowboys, don't push them off
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know for a fact now that that's 
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to you. 
You come let they come into your

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house and just run their ideal 
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don't do anything about it was 
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It was truly crazy to me. 
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I like to think that McVeigh 
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What he's gonna do to try to. 
You know, counter the most 

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obvious game plan of all time on
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Yeah, yeah. 
That that won that game is going

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to be interesting that the chat 
pointing out to me that they 

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were down 17 points to the Rams 
three weeks ago. 

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I don't even remember the 
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them get back in that game. 
Although Luna was a, some Jimmy 

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G drives, Kevin Cole, remind me 
of that on Twitter. 

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Oh, is this? 
This is the great, you know, is 

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Jimmy, G is Jimmy G, good 
because we there, Is someone 

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talking about you PA per play in
here and Jimmy jib rates, like 

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decently well, any paper play. 
So did Jared Goff by the way, 

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when he was on the ramps already
quite well and EPA for play. 

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So one of the things that's also
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percentage over expected and you
look at I like to look at guys 

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who have really good efficiency 
but they're not being very 

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accurate and cpoe and you know 
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Stafford actually the two guys 
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now. 
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they're the only They have like 
a big discrepancy in that and a 

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homes and bird are quite 
accurate. 

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So it is interesting because I 
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are frauds necessarily but I 
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a more volatile or perhaps like 
a more scheme dependent success 

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from the quarterback. 
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the quarterbacks not been 
particularly accurate than you 

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could see things get really 
wonky, which does create risk 

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for the Rams as well. 
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reasons that that make these 
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little bit cold feet with 
Stafford. 

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I think because what you see, 
when things aren't going right 

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for the ramp staff, it's thrown 
pick sixes. 

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Things are really bad. 
So this is a bit is an 

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interesting game because I think
it's sort of like, who's able to

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maintain confidence in their 
quarterback. 

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You no longer between the two or
does it just evolved into a run 

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Fest right in, like you said, 
with both Stafford and Jimmy G 

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can just have brutal kind of 
meltdown decision-making at any 

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time. 
What did you think of? 

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Skittles usage, obviously, 
coming off the game against the 

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Cowboys where he wasn't used it 
all, had that incredible catch. 

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I guess their entire past volume
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that game, but at least nice to 
see him involved a bit more. 

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It was, it is like one of those 
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played kittel over him over, 
Debo in both the FPC contest. 

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And that's one where I've kind 
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We ate more of the chalk with 
Debo because it's like, you 

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know, all the points were making
out why he was going to be 

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higher own than I had projected 
in your, you are right about 

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that. 
I was way low on his projection.

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He's just so comfy because it's 
there in all game script. 

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It's but I think more 
importantly he's there in the 

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run-heavy game scripts and 
kittel, he's made some big 

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plays, but you kind of at this 
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need like a giant massive Spike 
week out of them, and he's more 

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alive for that. 
I think, than Debo entitled 

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premium, but I think they were 
aiming. 

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The Rams basically have to say 
you're not doing to us what you 

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did to the Packers and cowboys 
and in that case, and that in 

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that game script, I think it 
would be super interesting. 

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Yeah, yeah, no, it's just Divas 
so much their engine to their 

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offense, whereas, kid'll, still 
feels like this luxury extension

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piece, where, like, they can't 
even move the ball without Debo,

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where they've shown a 
willingness to try to make it 

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work without Kettle. 
Making place. 

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Should we talk about and was 
asking if we have any live FPC 

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team? 
I'm actually not sure I need to 

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check with Leone on what we had 
because we had a lot of Joshua 

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Allen so that wipes out a number
of teams. 

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We did have a couple really good
Patrick home, seems that I'll 

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have to check on, but we had a 
Josh Allen, Robbie Gould. 

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Team hell. 
Yeah. 

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With Davante Adams. 
So this was it. 

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This was a team that heading 
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heading into Sunday. 
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last week, but heading into the 
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the contest, in the original 
contest, in the full contest. 

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But we have Robbie Gould going 
instead of, you know, instead of

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a my misremembering it, I guess.
I am just remembering the, we 

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having so many teams, I can't 
even remember them know what it 

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was. 
Okay. 

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So the 49ers game was Saturday 
night. 

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So that's when we run first, 
we're heading and we were first 

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heading into Saturday. 
Night, but we had gold, and we 

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were like a bunch of teams 
behind his head Debo. 

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So we're fading Debo somehow. 
We need Robbie Gould to 

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outscore. 
Obviously the supposed to be a 

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Dallas win scenario. 
But we, you know, had the soft 

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fade, the saw fate advances, but
we're still in first. 

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And so, it's like all right. 
Gold has to outscore Deebo. 

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And he did, he outscored evil in
that game and what are the 

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chances of that that the kicker 
out scores? 

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The engine of the other team's 
offense? 

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We got it, we got what we 
needed. 

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But then they lost, we had 
atoms. 

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Instead of Aaron Jones. 
And obviously, I mean, unless he

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doesn't play in this game. 
Cool. 

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Not gonna do it again. 
So, to now it, now we need him 

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to do a fun like 20 points 
because we also didn't have the 

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right Packer and then that would
have been okay, if the Packers 

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in one we could have made that 
up later, but obviously they 

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didn't. 
So it was one of the craziest 

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sweats where you have this 
improbable thing of like the 

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kicker outscoring devotee never 
gonna happen. 

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It does. 
Is happen. 

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We still lost. 
Yeah, and Evan looks like it is 

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similar scenario. 
He s overall with a McPherson 

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and 49ers DST team. 
Yeah, but you did. 

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I mean McPherson and gold just 
massive massive gains IV 

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McPherson just ripping field 
goal after field goal. 

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Yeah well Garrett was talking me
he's in first and he's got Josh 

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Allen so he's trying to figure 
out if he can pull it off 

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without without Josh, I think, 
yes, Tyreke he'll Chase Mitchell

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and I'm not sure like I assume 
cup you need one of those what 

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is it? 
Those little pop passes to 

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Tyreke l-like at the goal line 
where it doesn't count as a pass

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kind of thing. 
Yeah yeah, yeah. 

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That's what he that's what you 
need. 

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You need a lot of brushes. 
You need some pitches. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Um, let's see. 

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Someone was asking Keith was 
asking about obviously. 

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Gabriel Davis has the massive 
for Touchdown game. 

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I've seen some screenshots of 
Dynasty trades involving gave 

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Davis, but key specifically 
asking, Thing about being 

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worried about digs being 
invisible and such a big game. 

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I haven't seen any of the, like,
film Grinders takes on this. 

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Where they doubling digs that 
was Gabriel Davis out. 

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Playing him. 
What was your take on that? 

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I'm not sure if they were 
doubling him or, you know, 

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obviously a little bit 
disappointing to have a guy have

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an incredible blow up fantasy 
performance in the playoffs and 

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have it not be digs certainly 
not what we would have expected,

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but I'm kind of of the mind that
like, in general, This. 

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These ultimately like that's a 
good thing for digs. 

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If like next year, I think at 
this point, we talk about next 

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year. 
It's a good thing. 

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If there's a secondary weapon on
the team, particularly downfield

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weapon like Gabriel Davis. 
I think that's ultimately a good

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thing for digs the, you know, 
the bigger concern for me is day

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balls, definitely going to be 
gone. 

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So are they going to just have 
this massive massive lead in 

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situation neutral pass rate, 
like, they did this past year. 

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Huge. 
Huge lead in password over 

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expected on First. 
And Ten. 

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Are they going to have that? 
Because if they don't then you 

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start to worry about you know 
condensed targets guys kind of 

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cannibal and cannibalizing each 
other but like in this iteration

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of the bills like if I could go 
back in time and install Gabriel

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Davis from week, one in 2021, my
general feeling on this type of 

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stuff is that digs has a better 
season than he did. 

446
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,700
And I think it would have been 
helpful to have Gabriel Davis, 

447
00:24:09,700 --> 00:24:12,000
stretching the field, and 
actually being good at, and 

448
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,000
actually drawing some targets 
and actually scoring some 

449
00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:19,300
touchdowns and burning. 
Fences because then it helps dig

450
00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:21,700
see less attention throughout 
the rest of the season. 

451
00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:24,500
He's able to connect deep down 
field where he was struggling to

452
00:24:24,500 --> 00:24:28,000
do that a bit this year. 
So, you know, I ultimately think

453
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:31,800
it's probably a good thing for 
for Digs at the bigger. 

454
00:24:31,900 --> 00:24:34,400
Bigger question, the offense 
without table moving forward. 

455
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:40,100
What how about this for a comp 
Gabriel Davis is the Cristian 

456
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:45,900
Kirk to Diggs is DeAndre Hopkins
like in optimal configurations 

457
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,400
Yeah, I think that's that's 
probably fair. 

458
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:52,800
But I mean it could be like, you
know, could be like a tea 

459
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,900
Higgins to a gym or chase sort 
of if he's really takes a leap. 

460
00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:00,300
Yeah. 
Or even like maybe a Tyler Boyd 

461
00:25:00,300 --> 00:25:04,100
to, you know, a t Higgins or 
Jamar chase, you know like it's 

462
00:25:04,100 --> 00:25:06,600
helped it's still helpful to 
have like you know it doesn't 

463
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,900
hurt T Higgins and Jamar chase. 
The tide of Boyd is good. 

464
00:25:10,500 --> 00:25:14,000
Yelp's. 
It don't you think the thing is 

465
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:18,000
is like Gabe Davis's can a 
probably even be a more 

466
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:21,800
expensive version of Miko. 
Hardman two years ago. 

467
00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:24,200
You know, your Hardware was 
going in like the seventh round 

468
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,800
of Underdog drafts when he was 
like really creeping up because 

469
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:30,100
it was like, oh this young 
athletic guy attached to one of 

470
00:25:30,108 --> 00:25:31,700
the best quarterbacks in the 
league. 

471
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:35,600
Like this is a no-brainer I mean
I could see Gabe Davis being in 

472
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,700
what the fourth fifth round. 
I mean in some of these drafts, 

473
00:25:38,700 --> 00:25:40,000
we should actually check it 
because I did see. 

474
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:46,400
Mojo started posting some Lee 
draft ADP. and I'd be careful 

475
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:51,300
with that in general, like, 
Gabriel Davis was good this 

476
00:25:51,300 --> 00:25:54,800
season but he wasn't. 
I mean, I'm now the playoffs, he

477
00:25:54,800 --> 00:26:00,800
was incredible, but all the 
offensive concerns are like, 

478
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,400
like, if you want to talk about,
you know, some relevant topic of

479
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,900
the, the crypto market right now
we're seeing this, this this 

480
00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:12,100
downtrend of the crypto Market. 
I would say Davis is kind of an 

481
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:14,900
altcoin in this regard. 
Where if there's some issues 

482
00:26:14,900 --> 00:26:19,400
with the bills offense, Davis is
going to be the big big loser. 

483
00:26:19,700 --> 00:26:22,500
Whereas like Stefon Diggs is 
still Stefon Diggs, like Stefon 

484
00:26:22,500 --> 00:26:26,800
Diggs, has the out of like being
a Target hog, you know them 

485
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,200
designing the offense around 
them, they played Emmanuel 

486
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,900
Sanders over Gabriel Davis, All 
Season, they're not going to 

487
00:26:32,900 --> 00:26:35,400
suddenly because of one playoff 
game design, their whole offense

488
00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:41,100
around him going forward. 
So, I think that More much more 

489
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:44,400
of a lower floor with Gabe. 
Davis compared to Stefon Diggs 

490
00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:47,800
even at a reduced cost. 
Yeah, the other fascinating 

491
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,300
thing with, I mean, I'm just a 
meat. 

492
00:26:49,300 --> 00:26:53,000
If, if his price does settle and
that like fist six-round range, 

493
00:26:53,300 --> 00:26:56,800
it's going to be a similar 
dynamic in, like Underdog drafts

494
00:26:56,800 --> 00:27:00,200
with say like Mark Andrews and 
Lamar Jackson where they, 

495
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,200
they're going, like, within, 
like 3 to 4 pics of each other 

496
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:06,200
to where it's going to be a 
super trendy, like my turn. 

497
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,800
My Josh Allen gave Davis 5 6. 
Turn like I could. 

498
00:27:10,000 --> 00:27:16,900
See that coming from a mile. 
It's so true hundred percent. 

499
00:27:17,100 --> 00:27:22,000
Um, did pull up here the fantasy
Mojo ATP because there are some 

500
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,800
best ball drafts already off and
running at FPC. 

501
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,400
I know Underdog has opened up 
some drafts as well, so always 

502
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,000
interesting to get some early 
data. 

503
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,500
Hear anything jumping out to 
you? 

504
00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:40,100
We see Jamar Chase and in the 
first round, I still I I could 

505
00:27:40,100 --> 00:27:44,300
never touch Ezekiel Elliott with
a ten-foot pole, much less year 

506
00:27:44,300 --> 00:27:47,200
at pick 39, anything else, stand
out to you. 

507
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:52,000
These are there's a redraft. 
Yeah from just the past it looks

508
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,200
like they started a couple days 
ago. 

509
00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,300
I would be inclined to get noisy
Harris. 

510
00:27:59,300 --> 00:28:04,400
Now, because doesn't he feel 
like someone who's going to go 

511
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,300
up into the the 105 range and 
we're just going to rail against

512
00:28:07,300 --> 00:28:10,700
it, all all August. 
Yeah. 

513
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,600
Get some Nagi now before they 
get before they get quarterback 

514
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,000
figured out because I probably 
won't be, I mean, I guess it 

515
00:28:18,008 --> 00:28:21,500
could be Mason Rudolph. 
So I wouldn't like take him in, 

516
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:24,000
you know, I wouldn't load up but
I think this is a good spot to 

517
00:28:24,008 --> 00:28:25,800
get exposure. 
This feels like a decent. 

518
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:29,500
Price for a second year back, 
who just was a Workhorse for his

519
00:28:29,500 --> 00:28:31,900
entire rookie year. 
I agree with that. 

520
00:28:31,900 --> 00:28:34,100
Take I could just see it in my 
mind's eye right now. 

521
00:28:34,100 --> 00:28:37,500
Nagi Harris is going to be like 
a 1314 pick all summer. 

522
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000
Totally. 
Yeah, because you can I mean no 

523
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,600
one's going to be able to argue 
like once the projections come 

524
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:45,700
in right. 
Once you once you liked my video

525
00:28:45,700 --> 00:28:49,400
froze, but once the projection 
industry gets their hands on 

526
00:28:49,700 --> 00:28:53,200
Nagi Harris. 
Like how do you not like we just

527
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,900
saw his snap sure we just saw, 
you know his back. 

528
00:28:56,100 --> 00:28:56,500
Field. 
Touch. 

529
00:28:56,500 --> 00:28:59,100
Share it, you know. 
Pretty solid Target share 

530
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:00,200
throughout the course of the 
year. 

531
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,700
You could probably project an 
increase potentially in Target, 

532
00:29:02,700 --> 00:29:07,300
share in a second here. 
So I'm not going to like when 

533
00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:12,000
he's the one of three I'm going 
to hate it but I feel like one 

534
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:13,700
of the benefits of drafting 
Hurley's and get some Harris 

535
00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:15,700
exposure. 
This is all. 

536
00:29:15,700 --> 00:29:19,200
I've also just dying inside 
knowing it's like you know, 

537
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,100
every it was like two years ago.
Take George Kettle at 107 this 

538
00:29:23,100 --> 00:29:25,500
year taking that 2007, we're 
just going to dollar cost 

539
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:27,300
average. 
And take George Kettle at like 

540
00:29:27,300 --> 00:29:30,500
33 and every draft this year. 
You're damn right. 

541
00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:33,800
We do ha ha ha. 
It's so good. 

542
00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:37,200
We'll have to figure it out 
because I think I'm a little bit

543
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,000
more open to the projections on 
George. 

544
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:41,500
Kittle like my whole thing with 
Kettle is just like I think he's

545
00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:45,400
the best item in the league. 
I still do but you know having 

546
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:49,100
seen him go through a season 
were like that was undeniable. 

547
00:29:49,100 --> 00:29:54,000
I mean maybe not undeniably true
but I think true and it still 

548
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,100
didn't really help you that much
because the The offense even, 

549
00:29:57,100 --> 00:29:59,700
even with them, not moving to 
Trey, Lance the offense could be

550
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:04,000
so run having to move away from 
so completely, what do you think

551
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:07,100
about Javonte Williams here? 
Because it was after that, was 

552
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:09,400
it, the big Monday night 
football game when everyone was 

553
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:12,800
debating on Twitter and there 
was the, he should be the 102 

554
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:17,800
next year conversation. 
He goes pick 16 here, is that 

555
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,900
where he should go, or do you 
think there's a little meat on 

556
00:30:20,900 --> 00:30:24,600
the bone still? 
I would probably sprinkle them 

557
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,200
in now. 
I think that There might be kind

558
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:31,100
of a backlash to Devonte 
Williams depending on. 

559
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,100
I think you have to get exposure
now because what if Melvin 

560
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:39,600
Gordon isn't back because Melvin
Gordon's not back he's gonna go.

561
00:30:40,500 --> 00:30:44,200
I mean what I mean the one may 
be the one to turn. 

562
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,200
Maybe won't get like up into the
108, 109 range, but certainly 

563
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,000
would seem there in some drafts.
I think you're going to see a 

564
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,700
lot of excitement around him. 
He was so good. 

565
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:56,200
He's not to the Jonathan Taylor 
level of prospect, but I It's 

566
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,300
like a similar type of, you 
know, year to bet. 

567
00:30:59,500 --> 00:31:01,700
So we're here too bad but it's 
the type of that people will 

568
00:31:01,700 --> 00:31:06,100
make. 
So getting him in the mid s is 

569
00:31:06,100 --> 00:31:08,400
decent. 
If if Melvin Gordon's gone if 

570
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:10,400
Melvin Gordon's back or they 
draft someone to they bring 

571
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,400
someone else in then the 
projection stuff's going to push

572
00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,500
him down a little bit and I 
think maybe he'll end up kind of

573
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:22,000
I mean I was gonna say the two 
three turn but that's where CH 

574
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,200
was going. 
He's going to go ahead of where 

575
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,700
CH went. 
Yes feels fine to me. 

576
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:29,100
This feels fine. 
Yeah it feels good. 

577
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:31,900
I would definitely want to 
sprinkle some of him here 

578
00:31:31,900 --> 00:31:34,200
because he does seem like a 
riser. 

579
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:38,000
Any ones, once the Gordon news, 
gets defined or he clears out 

580
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,700
that's that's going to jump. 
By the way I'm like completely 

581
00:31:40,700 --> 00:31:42,100
thinking through this one as we 
go. 

582
00:31:42,100 --> 00:31:44,900
So no. 
But yeah, I think it's fun to 

583
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:49,100
talk through some of the stuff 
last We were debating you know 

584
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:53,500
CD Lambert's Jalen waddle 
pretty, big gap here you know 

585
00:31:53,500 --> 00:31:58,500
waddle going at essentially what
does that pick for one in Lamb 

586
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:01,000
here? 
At the end of the second round, 

587
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:05,800
you think that Gap should be 
that big Mmm. 

588
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:14,800
What's a good question? 
I still think I want lamb. 

589
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:21,400
At that kind of cost difference.
Yeah, think waddles Waddles very

590
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,300
good. 
But look at a ball goes to 

591
00:32:23,300 --> 00:32:27,700
Miami. 
Then sure maybe while she go a 

592
00:32:27,708 --> 00:32:30,400
bit higher. 
Yeah. 

593
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,600
The I'm trying to see who else 
jumps out. 

594
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,700
I mean you do see do you look at
where he's going? 

595
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:40,700
I mean after after what he just 
showed Yeah, but like, if you 

596
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:44,500
think about the jump, I mean t. 
Higgins was legit going like mid

597
00:32:44,500 --> 00:32:48,000
4th on Underdog when things were
getting frothy? 

598
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:50,100
Like, that's not even that big 
of a jump. 

599
00:32:50,500 --> 00:32:51,900
That's what I'm saying. 
Yeah. 

600
00:32:51,900 --> 00:32:54,400
Oh you're saying yeah he should 
be another round higher I mean 

601
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,600
this guy looks like he should be
a second round pick like I'd 

602
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,200
rather have tea Higgins and see 
Lamb. 

603
00:33:00,900 --> 00:33:03,700
Wow, okay. 
I mean I don't even think that's

604
00:33:03,700 --> 00:33:09,000
controversial like he's he's in 
an offense that I think has like

605
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,100
all The stuff that we were 
talking about last year with, 

606
00:33:12,700 --> 00:33:15,000
you know, the cowboy heading 
into this season with the 

607
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,500
Cowboys like, oh man, they 
could, they could like set 

608
00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:18,900
records. 
I could, they could like take it

609
00:33:18,900 --> 00:33:21,500
to another level with their 
passing, their passing rates 

610
00:33:21,500 --> 00:33:23,800
because they were, they had such
high passing rates in 2020 with 

611
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,900
Dak that didn't really 
materialize, but you're seeing 

612
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:31,200
that kind of ceiling. 
At least, I don't think the 

613
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,300
Bangles will ever until they get
their offensive line figured 

614
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:34,200
out. 
I don't think we'll ever just 

615
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,700
like push the pace for an entire
season. 

616
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:37,600
They don't really have to do 
that, they're not going to want 

617
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,700
to do that because No, they 
could risk parole getting hurt. 

618
00:33:40,700 --> 00:33:42,500
He takes he takes a decent 
amount of sacks. 

619
00:33:42,500 --> 00:33:46,200
They're not going to like doing 
that but on a weekly basis best 

620
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,900
ball, I mean, you know that t 
Higgins has a ceiling. 

621
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:51,100
You know, this offense has a 
ceiling when they get going and 

622
00:33:51,100 --> 00:33:54,200
they're passing and they're in 
shootouts like they will score 

623
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:57,300
so many points. 
When the enemy on all those 

624
00:33:57,300 --> 00:33:58,800
points are hitting your lineup 
that week. 

625
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,700
Like, I think that. 
Yeah, even though he's not going

626
00:34:03,700 --> 00:34:07,100
to be the number one guy and CD 
lamb has a chance to be like a 

627
00:34:07,108 --> 00:34:08,199
number one. 
Alpha guy. 

628
00:34:09,199 --> 00:34:10,500
I still think I'd rather T 
Higgins. 

629
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,400
Yeah, yeah it is it is 
interesting thinking like I'm 

630
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:20,500
thinking through, you know, lamb
was going, you know, late second

631
00:34:20,500 --> 00:34:25,300
in a Mario is going mid, third. 
And then trying to think of that

632
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,300
a little bit as a comp for this 
team and then you have Chase 

633
00:34:29,300 --> 00:34:33,000
going now, 108 the I do think, I
think I agree with your thesis 

634
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,400
that the gap between Chase and 
Higgins, shouldn't be that big 

635
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,000
like, it should be a little 
closer together like the Amari 

636
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:42,699
CD stuff. 
Yeah, and I think I'm fine with 

637
00:34:42,699 --> 00:34:45,199
the chase 108. 
I've take Justin Jefferson ahead

638
00:34:45,199 --> 00:34:48,000
of them. 
Yeah, I'd take. 

639
00:34:49,500 --> 00:34:53,500
Cooper cup ahead of them. 
But I think there's a case for 

640
00:34:53,500 --> 00:34:57,300
him, ahead of Tyreke this case, 
where I'm at of atoms because we

641
00:34:57,300 --> 00:34:58,700
don't know the quarterback 
situation. 

642
00:34:58,700 --> 00:35:02,500
There's a lot of risk there. 
Yeah, I think I think Jefferson 

643
00:35:02,500 --> 00:35:05,000
or I think Chase is going 
roughly in the right spot. 

644
00:35:06,100 --> 00:35:10,600
I think T still. 
Oh yeah I mean some of these 

645
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,800
these injury guys who weren't 
around are interesting. 

646
00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:18,100
Like I mean getting to see cam 
Akers back and looking pretty 

647
00:35:18,100 --> 00:35:21,100
healthy, you're probably still 
getting a little bit of a 

648
00:35:21,107 --> 00:35:23,100
discount on him. 
I mean if he played the whole 

649
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:25,900
year and was just a, you know, 
say you had like a Joe Mixon 

650
00:35:25,900 --> 00:35:28,800
level season. 
He's probably like a teepee of 

651
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,700
nine or ten. 
Yeah. 

652
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,000
Like I liked him a course. 
They're like that that's one. 

653
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,700
That's probably going to dry up 
to the I guess like the the wide

654
00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:43,900
receiver stuff like Metcalf 
looks that looks about right to 

655
00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:47,800
me until you tell you one 
running back that I like might 

656
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:51,200
surprise you get its job Nick 
Shaw. 

657
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,400
Okay let me hear it show up at 
23. 

658
00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:58,600
I mean this is a guy that we've 
had to take it like the I mean 

659
00:35:58,900 --> 00:36:02,200
not always the one to turn but 
kind Literally like that next 

660
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:05,400
little pocket that really s 
early-mid second and it's like 

661
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,600
so pricey, but you're getting 
here like if he's going to go 

662
00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,600
kind of, you know like last year
we had that that Justin 

663
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,100
Jefferson CD lamb Keenan Allen, 
right? 

664
00:36:17,100 --> 00:36:19,300
That tear. 
And then I went back and there 

665
00:36:19,300 --> 00:36:22,400
was like kind of that spot where
it's like well if see if CH 

666
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,900
falls back here, you know that 
early third range after those 

667
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:29,400
wide receivers are gone, then 
sure that seems great like I'll 

668
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:33,000
take that I'll take that kind of
Back at that point and Chum 

669
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,400
feels like that kind of running 
back to me. 

670
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:38,000
Where the key started to show a 
little bit more as a receiver 

671
00:36:38,700 --> 00:36:41,100
where they're actually throwing 
to them, on some screens. 

672
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:44,300
He did actually get used as a 
receiver a couple years ago, 

673
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,400
when before hunt arrived, or 
before hunt was healthy, he had 

674
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:51,400
like eight games without hunt a 
couple of years ago and was used

675
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,800
somewhat as a receiver, not like
as a receiving back, but he gets

676
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:58,000
a little closer to Dalvin cook 
where he gets mixed in, and I 

677
00:36:58,008 --> 00:37:00,300
think he's good when he, when he
gets used that way. 

678
00:37:00,300 --> 00:37:04,900
Like you see, Mon screens he 
gets moving quickly and one of 

679
00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:07,000
the best pure rushers in the 
entire league. 

680
00:37:07,900 --> 00:37:10,700
So I don't know, I'm never 
really drafting child but this 

681
00:37:10,700 --> 00:37:14,600
price kind of like it. 
And you can tell based on it 

682
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:17,800
says four drafts here. 
And you can see he went as early

683
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:22,000
as 2 3 which is about more where
we would expect the Boomers to 

684
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,100
draft him, but then you also see
he win his latest 35 and maybe 

685
00:37:26,300 --> 00:37:28,800
maybe he is. 
Kind of the polarizing Guy, 

686
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:30,500
where you're going to have guys 
who love Nick. 

687
00:37:30,500 --> 00:37:33,000
Just They're going to pull the 
trigger on a mid s. 

688
00:37:33,300 --> 00:37:37,000
Maybe you get a pissing yellow 
draft, a little ship chasing 

689
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,300
listener. 
League you scoop them up in the 

690
00:37:39,300 --> 00:37:40,900
the late 3rd. 
Yeah. 

691
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,400
Oh man that's pretty nice to 
this shift chasing League. 

692
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,500
Yeah he's gonna be he's gonna be
going like. 

693
00:37:46,500 --> 00:37:50,700
There are some people talking 
about Cooper cup as the number 

694
00:37:50,700 --> 00:37:54,400
one overall. 
I have nothing to back this by 

695
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,600
but like my gut feel and I think
I would rather have Tyreke Jamar

696
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,200
Chase and Jefferson. 
Over cup. 

697
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:04,500
Am I crazy? 
I'd rather cook you would so 

698
00:38:04,500 --> 00:38:07,700
he's your number one. 
Yeah, cups. 1 over 1. 

699
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,400
I mean, he had a well-liked 
we'll see how he finishes but 

700
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:16,400
and this actually might be 
updated from lawsuit values like

701
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,100
3.13 yards per outrunning 
entering last week. 

702
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:25,200
If I think is the right stat, 
which is Absurd that you just 

703
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,000
you're not supposed to do that 
and he 32 percent Target. 

704
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,700
Share this year. 
Coming off one of these crazy 

705
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:33,300
crazy Seasons when the entire 
offense is built around him. 

706
00:38:34,900 --> 00:38:37,700
I mean, yeah, he's going to 
regress some from that, but I 

707
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:41,300
don't know, just kind of feels 
like overthinking to me to pick 

708
00:38:41,300 --> 00:38:44,200
one of these other wide 
receivers over the guy that it's

709
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:47,100
like, this is such a rare type 
of thing. 

710
00:38:47,100 --> 00:38:50,900
And like, I guess, you know, we 
we had Michael Thomas coming off

711
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:52,900
of one of these seasons in a 
completely crumbled. 

712
00:38:53,100 --> 00:38:58,100
I'm not saying it's like safe 
necessarily but his it's kind of

713
00:38:58,100 --> 00:39:00,900
the Antonio Brown situation 
where it's like, he if 

714
00:39:00,900 --> 00:39:02,700
everything goes as expected, 
he's gonna be the number one 

715
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:07,000
wide receiver pretty easily. 
Yeah, I guess where I get a 

716
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:10,600
little concerned about cup and 
it even doesn't have anything to

717
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,500
do with like his age or 
anything. 

718
00:39:12,500 --> 00:39:18,000
It's just we saw the identity of
their offense, Sands cam Akers 

719
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,800
be through Cooper cop and I felt
like the offense got very 

720
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,400
comfortable running that version
of the offense through him and I

721
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:28,700
do just wonder if they have a 
healthy cam Akers, say they add 

722
00:39:28,700 --> 00:39:32,300
another playmaker or whatever 
like if they'll feel the need to

723
00:39:32,300 --> 00:39:35,900
use him as like the total And 
you and that's where you are 

724
00:39:35,900 --> 00:39:38,600
baking in some regression, which
is bound to happen. 

725
00:39:38,900 --> 00:39:42,900
But I'm just wondering how much 
of kind of their offensive 

726
00:39:42,900 --> 00:39:46,800
philosophy might change in a way
that 101 would be very rich for 

727
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,800
him. 
Yeah, I think that's a risk. 

728
00:39:49,900 --> 00:39:54,600
But if that's a risk then like, 
is he like AJ brown with more 

729
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:57,500
consistency, and less big plays?
You know what I mean? 

730
00:39:57,500 --> 00:40:00,200
Like, he's he still like, I 
don't think he has much of a 

731
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:04,000
risk of not being just a clear 
Alpha wide receiver there. 

732
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:08,000
I mean, Uh yeah that would after
what he showed with Robert Woods

733
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,600
coming back off injury. 
Like it's he's no one's going to

734
00:40:10,607 --> 00:40:12,700
challenge him Beckham's, not 
going to challenge him. 

735
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,400
I mean the only guy cake really 
challenging for that is Davante 

736
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,900
Adams. 
You know, like I don't think 

737
00:40:19,900 --> 00:40:23,300
Chase is going to get there 
because the T and then you you 

738
00:40:23,300 --> 00:40:26,600
know in order 42 or for Chase to
top cup. 

739
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,100
If everything's going pretty 
well, he probably needs the 

740
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:34,000
Bangles to start playing like 
the bills which my guess is that

741
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:35,000
they won't do. 
So. 

742
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:41,000
Yeah, I don't know. 
You're probably going to draft 

743
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:45,300
cup and be like I'll darn. 
It was only like he you know he 

744
00:40:45,300 --> 00:40:48,400
was worth like the 2003 instead 
of right. 

745
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,700
The one For, but so many of 
these guys are going to be in 

746
00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:53,800
the fourth like that 
seventh-round pick like, you 

747
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:57,000
know what I mean? 
Yeah, no I do agree with that. 

748
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,000
That his floor is still going to
be very night. 

749
00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:02,800
Almost kind of like the 
Christian McCaffrey thing, 

750
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:04,800
right? 
We're even in a down year, he's 

751
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,000
going to catch so many balls 
that like he's not gonna sink 

752
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:09,200
your team. 
Yeah. 

753
00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,700
And of course there's like the 
the catastrophic down here which

754
00:41:11,700 --> 00:41:16,900
he's not immune to He could, he 
could have a high ankle sprain 

755
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:18,200
and, you know, they could go 
away. 

756
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,900
Everything could just eat, never
is quite right excetera. 

757
00:41:20,900 --> 00:41:25,900
So Sally is like super locked 
in, but he being my number one 

758
00:41:25,900 --> 00:41:29,300
wide receiver right now. 
So what do you do in a draft? 

759
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:32,400
Let's say you have like the one 
for you. 

760
00:41:32,400 --> 00:41:37,600
Get Cooper cup, you come back 
and you get CD lamb and then 

761
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:42,100
you're staring there at Antonio 
Gibson and you're debating 

762
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:46,100
between taking a Tokyo Gibson. 
In or continuing to piss yellow 

763
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:49,000
with Metcalf or Keenan Allen, 
what are we doing with Gibson? 

764
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:55,700
Well, first of all, I think I 
would take Stefon Diggs but not 

765
00:41:55,700 --> 00:41:57,500
that I'm out on Atlantic. 
Come on. 

766
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,600
Yeah, thanks there. 
I thought we all said Diggs is 

767
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,600
dead now so you know, I just 
kind of removed him from the 

768
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:04,800
board. 
Gotcha. 

769
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,500
I think I'm pissing yellow. 
I think I'm going for a DK, 

770
00:42:10,500 --> 00:42:14,100
Metcalf Keenan, Allen T Higgins.
I mean just talk. 

771
00:42:14,300 --> 00:42:18,900
I think T Higgins is a 
second-round pick so you just 

772
00:42:18,900 --> 00:42:20,900
I'll probably end up just 
hammering T Higgins a lot in the

773
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:26,100
third round Gibson I think is in
play but he reminds me more of 

774
00:42:26,100 --> 00:42:31,100
like in the BET has now become 
assuming that JD mckissack is 

775
00:42:31,100 --> 00:42:34,700
back which I think he's a free 
agent, so maybe he's not but we 

776
00:42:34,700 --> 00:42:36,700
need them to get a quarterback. 
I mean the quarterback situation

777
00:42:36,700 --> 00:42:41,500
is really bad so he feels like 
he should be down more. 

778
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:44,800
Like, wouldn't you rather have 
David Montgomery? 

779
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:50,400
Then internal Gibson. 
Yeah, yeah, it's just sad but 

780
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,100
yeah, yeah, you would. 
So why am I going to? 

781
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:56,200
Why am I going to pay a premium 
for Antonio Gibson? 

782
00:42:56,700 --> 00:43:00,500
Yeah, we've already done the 
paying a premium for me. 

783
00:43:00,700 --> 00:43:02,700
Antonio gives it. 
They had it didn't turn out very

784
00:43:02,700 --> 00:43:05,400
well, it'll turn out great. 
But you know, all we've got a 

785
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,700
lot of new information on its 
own you Gibson. 

786
00:43:08,100 --> 00:43:08,600
Yeah. 
Right. 

787
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,200
And all of it says don't pay a 
massive premium form. 

788
00:43:11,500 --> 00:43:16,100
So like everything we're hoping 
for and Tony Gibson to become, 

789
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:20,300
they Montgomery kind of already 
Is and like the offense might 

790
00:43:20,300 --> 00:43:22,600
actually be better in Chicago 
depending on what happens with 

791
00:43:22,700 --> 00:43:23,900
Washington's quarterback 
situation. 

792
00:43:24,500 --> 00:43:27,400
All right, two names that I 
noticed that I definitely think 

793
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,700
should be in these top 40. 
What is Mike Evans have to do? 

794
00:43:32,700 --> 00:43:34,700
How many more thousand yard 
seasons? 

795
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,300
Does he need to do you know to 
be a top for you s? 

796
00:43:37,300 --> 00:43:42,900
Also DJ more like I mean are we 
really going to punish DJ more 

797
00:43:42,900 --> 00:43:46,100
for the quarterback stuff this 
year? 

798
00:43:46,100 --> 00:43:47,200
I don't know. 
I'm willing to go. 

799
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,300
I think we're gonna I mean at 
this point yeah I would take him

800
00:43:51,300 --> 00:43:52,700
in the top 40. 
I would have them. 

801
00:43:52,700 --> 00:43:58,300
I mean I'd take my head of 
bezique for sure, but you do 

802
00:43:58,300 --> 00:44:00,300
worry about you know they got 
like what? 

803
00:44:00,300 --> 00:44:04,200
Bob McAdoo. 
Do now sir coordinator as 

804
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:07,100
doesn't feel like it's going to 
be an explosive offense, in any,

805
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,700
we could Sim this this next 
season a thousand times. 

806
00:44:09,700 --> 00:44:13,400
It's not an explosive offense. 
So it's a little tough but I 

807
00:44:13,408 --> 00:44:18,700
don't know who's a comp is he 
like See like deante Johnson. 

808
00:44:20,500 --> 00:44:23,600
Like, no, that's not quite right
because he doesn't, he's got the

809
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,300
higher a top. 
But who is he like, compared to 

810
00:44:25,308 --> 00:44:28,200
a guy last year? 
Like click the clear. 

811
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,600
Number one, wide receiver, but 
on a team that the Clinton wide 

812
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:35,200
receiver end good on a team that
were just not excited about it 

813
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:39,600
all. 
Yeah, I'm trying to I'm trying 

814
00:44:39,600 --> 00:44:43,700
to not he's not Marquis Brown, 
he's not dj shark because we're 

815
00:44:43,700 --> 00:44:47,300
more great branding Sousa. 
Brandin Cooks, Brandin Cooks. 

816
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:51,100
Yeah, that's fair. 
All the cooks was older and has 

817
00:44:51,100 --> 00:44:53,500
like concussion issues that we 
were in about it. 

818
00:44:53,500 --> 00:44:57,200
Davis Bells is probably better 
than any quarterback that right.

819
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,100
Yeah. 
Better quarterback. 

820
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:01,900
Yeah. 
But that's, that's probably the 

821
00:45:01,908 --> 00:45:03,500
best one that we've come up 
with. 

822
00:45:04,300 --> 00:45:08,600
I mean, yeah, it's going to be 
shocking for people to know that

823
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:14,000
I don't like, you know, these 
older Veteran running backs in 

824
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,100
situations that could, you know,
change on a dime. 

825
00:45:17,100 --> 00:45:19,900
I mean, this is so fucking 
frothy for fernet right here. 

826
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:22,800
I mean, oh yeah, don't take one 
out here. 

827
00:45:23,100 --> 00:45:25,800
I mean, I literally just wrote 
up all of Brady basically 

828
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,100
hitting that he's probably going
to retire like this. 

829
00:45:29,100 --> 00:45:32,100
Awesome says he's retired. 
He would retire right now, which

830
00:45:32,100 --> 00:45:35,500
means which is code for I think 
I think Tom Brady is going to 

831
00:45:35,500 --> 00:45:37,400
retire, right? 
It's crunk. 

832
00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:40,300
Only will play Brady's playing. 
Yeah. 

833
00:45:41,100 --> 00:45:44,000
Yeah. 
Would you Hawkinson also by the 

834
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:44,800
way? 
No, thank you. 

835
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:49,800
Yeah, yeah. 
We've done the TJ Hawkinson 

836
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:51,600
thing a couple of years. 
What about Waller? 

837
00:45:51,600 --> 00:45:55,000
That's a tougher one. 
I'm more in Waller. 

838
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,900
Yeah I'm morning. 
Waller Waller is dealt with 

839
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,800
dealt with injuries 
inconsistency but some of the 

840
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,800
inconsistency like he was really
really inconsistent in 2020 as 

841
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,200
well. 
Yeah, he got hot at the end of 

842
00:46:08,207 --> 00:46:09,400
the year. 
He had a huge game against the 

843
00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:10,900
Jets. 
It's just kind of the nature of 

844
00:46:10,908 --> 00:46:14,100
the position. 
Yeah, Mark Andrews. 

845
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:19,400
Definitely make it a pretty big 
leap here as well, you know? 

846
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:22,400
Yeah, that's a, that's a pricey 
pick to have to spend on Mark 

847
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,900
Andrews. 
I don't think I'm going to be 

848
00:46:24,900 --> 00:46:28,200
into that. 
Give me give me Kettle and pits.

849
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:35,100
At their cost and Waller? 
Yeah, we were like in on kidal 

850
00:46:35,100 --> 00:46:37,600
last year in a big way partly 
because, you know, he was a 

851
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:43,400
cheaper version of Waller. 
But I think that Andrews is now 

852
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:47,800
kind of in that situation like I
think these tight ends that are 

853
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,900
being, these are the top tight 
ends, you know, not news to 

854
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:55,300
anybody but these top five guys 
to me, that should be a bigger 

855
00:46:55,300 --> 00:46:58,100
gap between Hawkinson. 
I haven't, I want no parts of 

856
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:00,900
predicting which is the next 
tight end of join this Elite 

857
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:02,900
group because we're really bad 
at that. 

858
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:06,300
I mean, I'm frankly shocked we 
were as good as as as we were 

859
00:47:06,300 --> 00:47:09,500
with Kyle pits. 
I mean we're almost never good 

860
00:47:09,500 --> 00:47:12,200
at predicting guys. 
Accurately who are going to jump

861
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:13,800
into that, you know, the first 
season. 

862
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,900
We thought he would do it. 
He did Kyle Pitts was awesome as

863
00:47:15,908 --> 00:47:19,600
a rookie. 
I think his APA here makes a ton

864
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:22,900
of sense but I don't want any 
parts of predicting the tee. 

865
00:47:22,900 --> 00:47:25,100
Jay Hawkins going to make this 
big leap because he said chances

866
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:29,100
doing he hasn't done. 
Yeah yeah. 

867
00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:32,800
Ethan saying Dallas ghadir 
that's definitely going to be a 

868
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,100
guy who's probably going to be 
going in the in the fourth and 

869
00:47:35,100 --> 00:47:38,500
fifth round of most drafts. 
I would assume I would take him 

870
00:47:38,500 --> 00:47:39,800
over Hawkinson. 
Yeah. 

871
00:47:40,900 --> 00:47:44,800
Expendables asking about Calvin 
Ridley another really. 

872
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,300
I haven't read a blurb. 
I mean you work at the Blurred 

873
00:47:47,300 --> 00:47:50,300
Factory I mean has there been 
any updates on where Calvin 

874
00:47:50,300 --> 00:47:55,000
Ridley is at know I've seen some
stuff come through of like you 

875
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,900
no no no status on you know 
update no update with a comments

876
00:47:59,900 --> 00:48:04,200
from Smith on it and we had we 
had a blurb you know that 

877
00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:08,400
basically put them on whichever 
list they had to put them on and

878
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:11,200
that was kind of like the last 
time we were updating it Till 

879
00:48:12,500 --> 00:48:15,300
there's actual news but there 
have been blurbs that are 

880
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:17,600
basically like nothing has 
changed. 

881
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:18,600
That's what I mean. 
Not blurbs. 

882
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,600
But but tweets from the beat 
reporters that nothing has 

883
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:22,900
changed. 
Yeah. 

884
00:48:23,500 --> 00:48:26,600
Yeah. 
I mean, how much of do you worry

885
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,700
about Pitts? 
Has you know situation? 

886
00:48:31,100 --> 00:48:34,400
You know how I feel like he 
could be in kind of a TJ 

887
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:41,000
Hawkinson esque situation. 
Potentially I don't know. 

888
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,300
It'll be that bad. 
I mean, Matt Ryan's better than 

889
00:48:43,300 --> 00:48:46,500
Jared Goff. 
Yeah, I think he's and he's 

890
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:50,500
shown a connection with Ryan. 
He had a really good yards per 

891
00:48:50,500 --> 00:48:52,700
hour on this year. 
I mean, really good for a rookie

892
00:48:52,900 --> 00:48:56,100
think it was a almost two yards 
per hour on which is pretty off 

893
00:48:56,100 --> 00:48:58,200
the charts for rookie tight. 
And I mean that's, that's wild 

894
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,100
stuff. 
And he wasn't like, you know, 

895
00:49:00,100 --> 00:49:03,900
use sparingly, he was the engine
of the offense down the stretch.

896
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:11,500
So the offense is an ideal, but 
in Some ways just being a tight 

897
00:49:11,500 --> 00:49:14,700
end who's used as his team's. 
Number one weapon is. 

898
00:49:14,700 --> 00:49:16,700
I mean, that alone is so 
massive. 

899
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,400
Yeah. 
And again and rare and he's a 

900
00:49:20,408 --> 00:49:21,800
wide receiver. 
I mean Compass has a wide 

901
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:24,500
receiver like period, he's a 
wide receiver. 

902
00:49:24,500 --> 00:49:28,900
Like he has tightened 
eligibility, he maybe shouldn't 

903
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:34,000
but it's like the BET here is is
like DK Metcalf or quarter, 

904
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,100
McLaren entering his second 
season, like that's that it's 

905
00:49:37,100 --> 00:49:38,900
somewhere between the bet 
they're your base. 

906
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,400
We adding on like Alpha wide 
receiver to make it leak. 

907
00:49:42,200 --> 00:49:46,000
This is another name that I 
don't necessarily think it's bad

908
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,900
that he's not on here but I'm 
kind of shocked that am on Roz 

909
00:49:49,900 --> 00:49:55,600
finished and get steamed into 
the top 40 me to a little bit, 

910
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,200
although, I guess it's that 
there's more. 

911
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:03,900
It's like, I'd love to see the 
other the other wide receivers 

912
00:50:03,900 --> 00:50:07,600
after this because I don't think
I'd take him. 

913
00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:10,900
I don't think he's anywhere near
any of these wide receivers like

914
00:50:10,900 --> 00:50:12,600
you're not taking him over 
DeAndre Hopkins. 

915
00:50:13,500 --> 00:50:18,200
Now, Timmy am on Raw feels like 
and I'm not saying I just mean 

916
00:50:18,200 --> 00:50:21,900
from like, ATP and sentiment. 
He feels like he could be last 

917
00:50:21,900 --> 00:50:26,200
year's T Higgins, right? 
The rookie who didn't come in 

918
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,700
like as hyped. 
But then really delivered and 

919
00:50:29,700 --> 00:50:31,800
showed promise. 
And then once we start talking 

920
00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:35,100
about the second year break out 
stuff, lack of targets on the 

921
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:36,800
lines. 
The problem is is his 

922
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,500
quarterbacks Jared Goff and not 
Joe barroso, the excitement 

923
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,000
isn't going to quite be there. 
Yeah. 

924
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:44,500
And to be honest, I mean I think
he's closer to Hunter Run Frozen

925
00:50:44,500 --> 00:50:46,000
sea Higgins. 
Yeah. 

926
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,500
It's just a big, it's a Target 
play. 

927
00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:51,400
I mean he's good, I'm not trying
but I'm gonna run for his good 

928
00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:55,400
so I don't mean that is like a 
put-down but I don't think he's 

929
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,600
like what's your upside? 
I think you're upside is, you 

930
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:01,100
know, could be decently high in.
PPR leagues. 

931
00:51:01,100 --> 00:51:04,900
You could have him be the kind 
of a Target hog type of guy. 

932
00:51:05,900 --> 00:51:08,600
What did rent for a finish as 
PPR scoring. 

933
00:51:09,500 --> 00:51:11,900
I see Tom 24, he he must have 
been. 

934
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:13,800
Yeah, because down the stretch, 
he was crushing. 

935
00:51:13,900 --> 00:51:16,300
So, yeah, I don't, I don't mean 
to say, but I mean, I don't 

936
00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:18,000
know, maybe he's got kind of 
like whatever. 

937
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,800
I mean maybe like Jarvis Landry 
was like yea wide receiver three

938
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:26,600
or four wide receiver for one 
season so he could have. 

939
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:35,000
Yeah, it's possible. 
Yep, crazy asking a robbed man 

940
00:51:36,200 --> 00:51:38,600
that he's such a, he's a, he's a
tough one. 

941
00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:41,800
He burned a lot of people that 
share. 

942
00:51:42,900 --> 00:51:47,300
Yeah once I don't think we had a
guy like that they spit just 

943
00:51:47,300 --> 00:51:49,500
year. 
I just completely fell off the 

944
00:51:49,500 --> 00:51:55,800
map but he's got to be I mean, 
there's a group actually of 

945
00:51:55,800 --> 00:52:01,300
like, Robbie Anderson Allen 
Robinson, and Michael Thomas, 

946
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,600
who are all going to be kind of 
like, what do we do with these 

947
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:09,500
guys and Thomas will go above 
the other two but but I think 

948
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:13,800
hey Robin and Robbie Anderson 
are going to be double digit 

949
00:52:13,800 --> 00:52:16,900
picks for sure. 
And what what do you think 

950
00:52:16,900 --> 00:52:25,200
they'll and like 14th round. 
Yeah, I mean I guess we at least

951
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:28,300
is Robbie Henderson. 
Is he still under contract with 

952
00:52:28,300 --> 00:52:29,600
the Panthers? 
Yeah, because he signed an 

953
00:52:29,607 --> 00:52:32,900
extension he say extension. 
Oh, but you know what? 

954
00:52:32,900 --> 00:52:35,400
Alan Robinson is a free agent 
because he was on the franchise 

955
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,000
tag so that's going to go a long
way in to turn. 

956
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:38,600
Yeah. 
Okay. 

957
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,200
So what we are laying there but 
but where it is so then I'm to 

958
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,900
I'm way too low on Robinson. 
Then what do you think like 

959
00:52:46,300 --> 00:52:49,900
Probably probably 10th or 11th. 
Yeah. 

960
00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:55,500
You mean like pre free agency 
Yeah, yeah, people are always 

961
00:52:55,500 --> 00:53:00,200
going to have a fondness for 
him, and I think people will be 

962
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:03,200
more willing to chalk it up to 
Bears dysfunction. 

963
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,400
Then him losing a step even 
though it's probably a little 

964
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,700
bit of both. 
I think it's a lot of bit of 

965
00:53:09,700 --> 00:53:10,700
him. 
Losing a step. 

966
00:53:10,700 --> 00:53:16,300
Yeah, this is another one phone 
number 10, PPR wide receiver. 

967
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,400
Oh, there you go. 
Not a put-down time in a row, 

968
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,600
same town, but it's still, it's 
still sort of a player 

969
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,300
archetype, that's not quite as 
high up. 

970
00:53:22,300 --> 00:53:26,600
Say Travis CTN. 
I mean give me him over. 

971
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:30,000
You know any of these kind of 
later, running backs, I think. 

972
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,500
Well day balls ending up in our 
no, sorry not table if left, 

973
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:36,500
which is ending up in, in 
Jacksonville. 

974
00:53:38,800 --> 00:53:41,500
I mean, I think that's that's 
pretty exciting for a functional

975
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:44,500
offense. 
Yeah. 

976
00:53:44,500 --> 00:53:47,200
I think I'd take him. 
I mean what about him verse 

977
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:51,600
Dobbins were you out on that? 
They feel they feel similar but 

978
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:56,600
it seems like the I just have 
never seen any indication from 

979
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:01,100
the Ravens to go to a one back 
system or keep it a 2 back 

980
00:54:01,100 --> 00:54:07,500
system to where I think there's 
more upside for a bigger role 

981
00:54:07,500 --> 00:54:12,500
for for etn and just because his
his work is going to be more 

982
00:54:12,500 --> 00:54:15,400
tilted toward the pass game. 
Then Dobbins, I mean Dobbins, 

983
00:54:15,600 --> 00:54:19,200
it's going to be so Reliant, 
still on explosive, run plays 

984
00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:22,200
for him to rack up points. 
I just think he's a he's more a 

985
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,800
guy I'd want to be taking like 
in the fifth sixth round whereas

986
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:27,900
like etn. 
I feel like with that floor he 

987
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:29,700
gives you. 
You could probably justify it a 

988
00:54:29,707 --> 00:54:33,100
little earlier. 
Yeah, I agree with that. 

989
00:54:35,100 --> 00:54:39,200
This is a fun one, too just 
because of how hot he finished 

990
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,600
Singletary. 
I mean do you think the 

991
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,500
narrative this off season will 
be? 

992
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:49,900
He graduated to Bell cow back or
do you think people will kind of

993
00:54:49,900 --> 00:54:52,800
talk themselves into that just 
being like for a specific 

994
00:54:52,800 --> 00:54:58,500
stretch of the season? 
I think he'll ultimately be 

995
00:54:58,500 --> 00:55:00,600
like, a classic Dead Zone 
running back. 

996
00:55:03,000 --> 00:55:07,100
And the reason that I think that
is that he's going to be tough 

997
00:55:07,100 --> 00:55:10,200
to project, right? 
Because what we saw down the 

998
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:12,800
stretch is he's just getting 
like literally every single 

999
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,900
snap, but we didn't really see 
that in the regular season. 

1000
00:55:17,100 --> 00:55:21,400
We saw it, we saw close to that 
but the playoffs he's like 

1001
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,200
playing every single snap 
literally. 

1002
00:55:24,700 --> 00:55:27,300
But you're not going to project 
that you know, and no one, no 

1003
00:55:27,300 --> 00:55:29,100
one would project that over the 
course of a full season. 

1004
00:55:29,100 --> 00:55:34,300
So once you project him to have 
like a more normal snap Ray, I 

1005
00:55:34,300 --> 00:55:36,600
don't do projection so I don't 
you know, I don't know exactly 

1006
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:39,200
what people have been but he'll 
have you know, the off the kind 

1007
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,000
of the the total control of the 
backfield from what he showed 

1008
00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:47,800
down the stretch. 
So at that point then you look 

1009
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,000
at the value of the backfield 
which isn't actually all that 

1010
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:52,500
valuable. 
There's not many, it's not like 

1011
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:56,100
Tampa Bay's backfield Old we're 
like you can project Leonard 

1012
00:55:56,100 --> 00:56:00,100
fournette to not even dominate 
touches, you projecting like 65%

1013
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:03,200
of snaps and letter from that's 
gonna have an awesome projection

1014
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:06,100
in this iteration of Tampa, 
Bells, Tampa Bay's, backfill 

1015
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:09,600
that 40 expected points in the 
Wild Card round when he missed 

1016
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:12,200
between Giovani Bernard and and 
Keyshawn Bond. 

1017
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,700
I mean, it's a massive, massive 
value, one back consolidates it,

1018
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:17,900
you know, you're going to crush 
projections. 

1019
00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,800
That's not really the case with 
the bills. 

1020
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:25,200
He's only delivered really, 
really Wrong, you know, but not 

1021
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,900
even like really, really strong.
Just like very like clearly a 

1022
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:30,900
running back one because he has 
every single touch. 

1023
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,800
So I think once you factor in a 
little bit of, you know, some 

1024
00:56:35,800 --> 00:56:39,100
natural hedging, that that might
not be the case for all 2022. 

1025
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,800
You know, potential injury risk.
Just kind of not projecting any 

1026
00:56:42,800 --> 00:56:46,200
running back to have, like, 
literally every snap It's good. 

1027
00:56:46,207 --> 00:56:48,900
Yeah, I think it will be hard to
project him to be, like, worth 

1028
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:52,700
more than like a, like, a late 
third early, fourth type of type

1029
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:53,500
of pick. 
What do you think? 

1030
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:57,200
Ya know, that, that sounds? 
That sounds good to me, 

1031
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,700
although, I can just see the 
thinning out of running back 

1032
00:57:01,700 --> 00:57:07,000
again and in people wanting to, 
to kind of buy into Singletary, 

1033
00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:08,700
being a Bell cow on a good 
offense. 

1034
00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:11,700
I mean, people do just generally
love drafting players on good 

1035
00:57:11,700 --> 00:57:14,700
offenses. 
And if we've seen enough to kind

1036
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:16,400
of convince, Vince ourselves 
that Singletary. 

1037
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,300
Could be that I think he'll 
probably get drafted with a 

1038
00:57:19,308 --> 00:57:22,300
premium. 
This is a fun one from Liam, 

1039
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:24,500
assuming Aaron Rodgers goes to 
Denver. 

1040
00:57:24,700 --> 00:57:27,000
What's the price of those 
players? 

1041
00:57:27,700 --> 00:57:31,100
I mean, I'll shoot from the hip.
I'll say javante Williams top 

1042
00:57:31,100 --> 00:57:34,200
five running back. 
I'll say Jerry, Judy goes like 

1043
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,600
back end of round two. 
Like we're lamb in. 

1044
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,400
Digs are right here. 
I'll say Courtland Sutton like a

1045
00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:42,600
solid mid 4th round pick. 
And no. 

1046
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,000
A fan in tight in premium is 
like a fifth round. 

1047
00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:50,300
Pick. 
Yeah, I think that's I wonder if

1048
00:57:50,300 --> 00:57:55,300
Judy gets hyped that much. 
I saw forget who someone was 

1049
00:57:55,300 --> 00:57:58,600
having a list of the, you know, 
the dynasty wide receivers and 

1050
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,800
had, Judy is a mess. 
And I do think that the kind of 

1051
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:04,100
sentiment has turned against him
a little bit. 

1052
00:58:05,900 --> 00:58:09,600
I don't think he's a mess. 
I think it would be totally 

1053
00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,200
defensible. 
Having that range of Rogers was 

1054
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,600
there, but I do wonder if you 
get pushed up quite that high. 

1055
00:58:15,500 --> 00:58:16,800
I think. 
With everything else. 

1056
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,900
Yeah, I could just see the now. 
I mean, he did cool off a little

1057
00:58:21,900 --> 00:58:25,300
bit but people kind of there'd 
be the debate, right? 

1058
00:58:25,300 --> 00:58:29,000
Of like who's gonna be his 
Davante Adams and I think it'd 

1059
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,800
be an easier sell for people. 
That like Jerry, Judy is going 

1060
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:34,300
to be his Davante Adams. 
I agree. 

1061
00:58:34,900 --> 00:58:37,000
But keep in mind, I mean that 
what would be so interesting 

1062
00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:41,600
about that move? 
Is that Davante Adams took like 

1063
00:58:41,900 --> 00:58:43,900
three seasons to be his Davante 
Adams? 

1064
00:58:43,900 --> 00:58:45,000
Yeah. 
You know what I mean? 

1065
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,500
Like, do I have to go It took a 
long time to develop that 

1066
00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:49,200
connection with about damages. 
It was earned. 

1067
00:58:49,800 --> 00:58:52,700
I don't know that you di would 
just like immediately God I 

1068
00:58:52,700 --> 00:58:55,600
probably want to keep it. 
I'd be like, are you guys decide

1069
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,900
where these guys are priced? 
And then I'll probably take the 

1070
00:58:58,900 --> 00:59:02,300
cheaper of the two and I 
definitely be man. 

1071
00:59:02,300 --> 00:59:03,400
I would take a lot of cage. 
A hammock. 

1072
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,700
Liars will say that. 
Okay, Jay kammler fought. 

1073
00:59:05,700 --> 00:59:08,600
He would he would be like, what?
We've always wanted mvs to be. 

1074
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:10,700
Yeah, yes. 
Oh my God. 

1075
00:59:10,700 --> 00:59:15,400
Yes and yeah. 
Dan getting frothy just thinking

1076
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:18,700
about Uh Noah Fant with a really
good quarterback. 

1077
00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:23,200
I mean and Alberto sprinkle some
Alberto and these plan premium 

1078
00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:26,900
best balls again. 
Yeah, looking play there that 

1079
00:59:27,100 --> 00:59:28,700
there'd be lots of fun stuff 
there. 

1080
00:59:28,700 --> 00:59:30,800
Yeah. 
Guara Jaguar, has getting in the

1081
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,000
end zone. 
Occasionally, like we get now 

1082
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,100
but no in there. 
Seriously. 

1083
00:59:35,100 --> 00:59:38,500
Yeah, I made yeah even just 
thinking of like dealing with 

1084
00:59:38,500 --> 00:59:41,200
Lazard and Randall Cobb. 
I mean Denver basically has 

1085
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,000
upgrades for every single one of
those Sports. 

1086
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:47,700
You know what's gonna happen if 
he goes Denver Davante Adams 

1087
00:59:47,700 --> 00:59:50,300
coming too, right? 
He's gonna he's gonna relax. 

1088
00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:52,900
Wow, I mean he's a free agent. 
Now, they could franchise tag 

1089
00:59:52,900 --> 00:59:55,400
them, but they're trying to 
rebuild, you know. 

1090
00:59:55,500 --> 00:59:57,600
Well, that's what that's what GA
is saying here. 

1091
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,300
Won't Rogers Adams be a package 
package deal. 

1092
01:00:00,700 --> 01:00:03,100
Yeah, they got to do some kind 
of sign and trade with atoms or 

1093
01:00:03,100 --> 01:00:04,500
something. 
I don't know if they don't feel 

1094
01:00:04,500 --> 01:00:07,000
doesn't really do this. 
But something they had to figure

1095
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,800
out somehow because Adams, he 
wants to play with with Rogers. 

1096
01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:14,800
That is a, it's a really 
interesting thing too. 

1097
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,500
Because sometimes don't, Don't 
those guys have egos with it? 

1098
01:00:17,500 --> 01:00:20,000
Like we saw a little bit with 
the Brady Belichick stuff where 

1099
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,500
it was like, you know, their 
entire career. 

1100
01:00:22,500 --> 01:00:25,100
They're like is, you know. 
Brady, you know, a product 

1101
01:00:25,100 --> 01:00:27,600
developed check is Belichick, 
just a product to Brady and then

1102
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:29,300
they want to go do it on their 
own. 

1103
01:00:29,500 --> 01:00:31,000
Like, it's funny hair, Davante, 
Adams. 

1104
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,100
If that's the case, he's like, 
fuck it dude, I don't even want 

1105
01:00:33,100 --> 01:00:35,000
to see what it's like without 
aired Rogers. 

1106
01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:37,800
I just want this guy to be my 
quarterback forever, I don't 

1107
01:00:37,800 --> 01:00:40,100
think he doesn't seem to have 
that ego and their cars and 

1108
01:00:40,100 --> 01:00:41,700
apparently recruiting him for 
years. 

1109
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,700
And the ones ham says, it 
doesn't seem all that receptive 

1110
01:00:45,700 --> 01:00:47,900
to this. 
This recruitment efforts, but I 

1111
01:00:47,908 --> 01:00:52,500
mean Davante Adams. 
Like part of what his skill is 

1112
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:55,800
is knowing what Rogers is 
thinking at that moment, right? 

1113
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,600
Yeah. 
It doesn't not to take that away

1114
01:00:57,600 --> 01:01:00,800
from atoms like that's it's a 
what they've developed is an 

1115
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,900
incredible. 
I can't really I mean even like 

1116
01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:09,900
the Brady and the Brady Welker 
the Brady Edelman any Peyton's 

1117
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:14,100
guys like this is like a like 
Peyton Reggie Wayne I don't 

1118
01:01:14,100 --> 01:01:17,300
think would compare with With 
Rogers Adams. 

1119
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,500
The connection they have is 
just, I think it's the best I've

1120
01:01:20,500 --> 01:01:23,500
ever seen. 
I was talking about that with my

1121
01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:29,800
buddies, that it's like, you 
don't want to take anything away

1122
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:34,400
from either of them, but it's 
the most like perfect stylistic 

1123
01:01:34,700 --> 01:01:37,100
match possible. 
It's like the I wish I had a 

1124
01:01:37,107 --> 01:01:39,900
better like gaming analogy for 
it, but we're just like these 

1125
01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:43,100
two pieces come together and 
then get the height of their 

1126
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:45,100
superpowers. 
It just send locks this next 

1127
01:01:45,100 --> 01:01:48,100
level, Well, it's like they're 
both great on their own, right? 

1128
01:01:48,100 --> 01:01:51,000
But that pairing, I just 
couldn't think of another 

1129
01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:53,800
pairing where they both benefit 
from each other. 

1130
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,500
As much as those guys do. 
Yeah, and it's like the back 

1131
01:01:57,500 --> 01:01:59,700
shoulder connections. 
It's like the timing routes that

1132
01:01:59,700 --> 01:02:02,600
even simple stuff, where it's 
like that, they'll make a play 

1133
01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:08,300
look, like totally normal. 
But, Adams turns the balls that 

1134
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:11,800
kind of out in front, like it's 
like, not quite back shoulders, 

1135
01:02:11,800 --> 01:02:15,400
got to turn and Murphy's getting
excited about the schedule. 

1136
01:02:16,500 --> 01:02:18,900
But it's like not even the 
atoms, just like turns and 

1137
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:21,200
catches it. 
That he turns and grabs it. 

1138
01:02:21,700 --> 01:02:25,500
As you know, this in stride 
having not seen it but for a 

1139
01:02:25,508 --> 01:02:32,000
split What you did I will say 
two to give more to Adams Credit

1140
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:36,100
in that game against the Niners.
I mean he was scooping a couple 

1141
01:02:36,100 --> 01:02:40,300
of those throws up off the 
ground it was so weird with your

1142
01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:42,000
green screen. 
It looked like he was in a 

1143
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:47,700
little diorama box. 
Oh my goodness. 

1144
01:02:49,700 --> 01:02:55,400
Everyone wants to now. 
Imagine Rogers and all these 

1145
01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,000
different scenarios woman's is 
already willing to bump. 

1146
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,500
Trevor Lawrence out for Aaron 
Rodgers. 

1147
01:02:59,500 --> 01:03:02,100
I don't blame you, I mean, Pat 
where we taking visca. 

1148
01:03:02,700 --> 01:03:07,100
If Aaron Rodgers is csaba the 
Jacks, I mean the Mind meld 

1149
01:03:07,100 --> 01:03:11,100
connection between visca and 
Adams I think is gonna be you 

1150
01:03:11,107 --> 01:03:14,400
know it's maybe in 2024 it'll be
there. 

1151
01:03:15,300 --> 01:03:18,700
Oh we'll do have to I mean I got
it. 

1152
01:03:18,800 --> 01:03:21,100
Tell you right now Pete, I'm 
still gonna be I'm still gonna 

1153
01:03:21,100 --> 01:03:22,600
be drafting some bisque. 
I'm not sure if you're gonna be 

1154
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:24,300
with me, we took the Cole Harmon
this year. 

1155
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,700
We're drafting bisca. 
We want our discount. 

1156
01:03:27,300 --> 01:03:30,000
We definitely want to discount 
but I mean, you know what are we

1157
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,400
going to have to pay 12th 13th 
round? 

1158
01:03:32,500 --> 01:03:36,400
Yeah, I'm fine at those prices 
for sure. 

1159
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,000
I mean that's where we were 
drafting Gabe. 

1160
01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,000
Davis. 
This year in, you know, we were 

1161
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,700
right about just, we just didn't
get the Ford movie. 

1162
01:03:44,700 --> 01:03:48,200
It was our idea though that we 
were spitballing right last 

1163
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:50,700
week. 
Where you draft, and you get the

1164
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:53,400
through the air blast. 
Imagine your gave David shares 

1165
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:57,400
in that van, we gotta talk to, 
to Underdog here, gonna get a 

1166
01:03:57,400 --> 01:04:01,200
playoff, get a playoff 
tournament, but also a regular 

1167
01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,500
season tournament. 
I mean, that seems like the 

1168
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,900
ideal way to play basketball. 
Yeah. 

1169
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,500
I saw some, I think it was 
Eagles and Justin and buy them 

1170
01:04:09,500 --> 01:04:12,700
for. 
They were kind of spitballing 

1171
01:04:12,700 --> 01:04:15,200
ideas for other Underdog 
tournaments on Twitter, the 

1172
01:04:15,200 --> 01:04:17,100
other day. 
With also kind of like the goal 

1173
01:04:17,100 --> 01:04:21,100
of an underdog life fine. 
Oil and how that would 

1174
01:04:21,100 --> 01:04:25,600
potentially work. 
But even like having I mean they

1175
01:04:25,600 --> 01:04:29,100
ended up there ended up being I 
think like 190 teams in this one

1176
01:04:29,100 --> 01:04:32,500
this year I made I do like 
logistically and how much that 

1177
01:04:32,500 --> 01:04:35,300
costs and how much it would hurt
you know your bottom line or 

1178
01:04:35,300 --> 01:04:38,400
what the rake would need to be 
but like 190 finalist at a live 

1179
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,400
final under dog Fido would just 
be so incredibly fun. 

1180
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:48,800
What if you had like? 
You know, you had maybe would be

1181
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:53,000
again, maybe moves the playoff 
twist, but you'd you'd have this

1182
01:04:53,500 --> 01:04:57,300
the typical payout for Vespa 
Mania but then, you know, some 

1183
01:04:57,300 --> 01:05:00,400
threshold of finishers like 
maybe the top 15 finishers in 

1184
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,900
the final. 
Make the live final and then you

1185
01:05:04,900 --> 01:05:07,100
have to set a lineup based on 
your team. 

1186
01:05:08,600 --> 01:05:12,500
That's, that's interesting. 
Yeah, that's kind of fun. 

1187
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,000
Yeah or wonder. 
Yeah. 

1188
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,600
Or maybe it was something. 
Yeah. 

1189
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,300
Like that. 
Where you still had the main 

1190
01:05:19,300 --> 01:05:23,000
prize pool, but then there was 
that second prize pole for like 

1191
01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,700
the the live final where you 
left final set the lineup. 

1192
01:05:26,700 --> 01:05:29,000
Yeah, yeah. 
You make like okay you only 

1193
01:05:29,000 --> 01:05:32,400
finished 50th and best for me 
but or in the final vessel Mania

1194
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:36,200
than but that gets you in a lie 
final and then you have to set 

1195
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:40,100
your lineup and then there's all
the game theory around ownership

1196
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:44,000
percentages on that. 
Where it's like Erica Sighs 

1197
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,400
team. 
We had Jamar chase at 6%, like 

1198
01:05:46,400 --> 01:05:49,500
obviously, we're locked 
buttoning him, but then you have

1199
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:51,500
Cooper Cup. 
Who's at whatever? 

1200
01:05:51,500 --> 01:05:55,300
It was like, 35%. 
Are you fading Cooper cuff in 

1201
01:05:55,300 --> 01:05:57,800
your lineup? 
Because you have, but not 

1202
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:00,300
everyone has them. 
I mean, you're not, everyone has

1203
01:06:00,300 --> 01:06:01,700
it. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1204
01:06:01,700 --> 01:06:03,900
There's some interesting, but 
you would know because it'd be 

1205
01:06:03,900 --> 01:06:05,700
like the people who made the 
live. 

1206
01:06:05,700 --> 01:06:07,900
Final also did really well in 
that specific week. 

1207
01:06:08,300 --> 01:06:11,200
So a lot of the guys like it 
wouldn't just be, you know, 

1208
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:14,400
those players helped people get 
there but they The players who 

1209
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:17,600
like one people that million 
would probably be 

1210
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:21,400
over-represented. 
Yes, I have a, I have a feeling 

1211
01:06:21,400 --> 01:06:25,200
we're going to have a summer of 
crackpot ideas, all kinds of 

1212
01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,700
contests, Ian. 
I will I will do everything I 

1213
01:06:28,700 --> 01:06:33,200
can as an underdog influencer to
take your ideas up the ladder 

1214
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:35,900
and see what we can. 
We can get done this summer. 

1215
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,100
Mack says, will there be a ship 
chasing meet up Super Bowl 

1216
01:06:41,100 --> 01:06:43,700
weekend? 
I don't think so. 

1217
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:47,800
Oh, Super Bowl weekend. 
But Pat and I and Gretch are 

1218
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:50,600
definitely planning on another 
ship. 

1219
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:55,500
Chasing meet up in the summer. 
Yeah, you know, most likely 

1220
01:06:55,500 --> 01:06:58,800
around FPC drafts. 
I mean, we floated other ideas 

1221
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:03,700
to with KF F SC but whatever it 
is, we will what we're going to 

1222
01:07:03,707 --> 01:07:05,700
have a. 
We had a ton of fun last year 

1223
01:07:05,700 --> 01:07:08,900
and we will want to make it even
bigger and better and hopefully 

1224
01:07:08,900 --> 01:07:11,900
even more people can come this 
year with every time. 

1225
01:07:11,900 --> 01:07:14,900
It seems like we're winding down
with It, you know, rears up 

1226
01:07:14,900 --> 01:07:17,000
again but I know that would be 
the Hope. 

1227
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:22,900
Yeah, I will say, everybody 
Farrell it KF F SC is doing, 

1228
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,900
they're doing some Super Bowl 
drafts over there. 

1229
01:07:26,600 --> 01:07:29,000
They're doing like a whole 
weekend of Super Bowl, best ball

1230
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:31,300
draft. 
So if you're real real best ball

1231
01:07:31,300 --> 01:07:33,400
sicko, you can jump in with 
those guys. 

1232
01:07:33,900 --> 01:07:40,000
Yeah, I know, FPC has those gone
feral the I know underdog. 

1233
01:07:40,000 --> 01:07:43,700
Now has slowed drafts up for 
early. 

1234
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:47,600
Early 2020 to best ball. 
I think buying foreign Co jumped

1235
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,000
in one of those today. 
Maybe we could get going. 

1236
01:07:51,700 --> 01:07:54,100
We can get private, slow drafts 
going now. 

1237
01:07:54,100 --> 01:07:56,900
So, or this one's actually a 
fast Raph. 

1238
01:07:57,600 --> 01:08:02,100
So, maybe next week we could, we
could fire off our first really 

1239
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:04,600
fast draft. 
I like, yeah. 

1240
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:07,900
All right, we're going to power 
this down. 

1241
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,100
So Pat could take care of his 
dog. 

1242
01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,300
Yeah, the scratching. 
He's like trying to get My desk 

1243
01:08:14,300 --> 01:08:15,500
right now. 
I don't know why. 

1244
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:18,300
Those are where the ethernet 
cables. 

1245
01:08:18,300 --> 01:08:22,600
He likes to chew our. 
Yeah, there was literally my dog

1246
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:26,000
is. 
Yeah, it's like an earthquake. 

1247
01:08:26,100 --> 01:08:27,600
Well, let me tell before we get 
out of here. 

1248
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:30,200
Well, Murphy's on we're on the 
subject Murphy. 

1249
01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,700
I don't eat I used to eat a 
decent amount of beef jerky. 

1250
01:08:34,700 --> 01:08:37,500
It was like beef jerky but I 
don't, you know, it's not, it's 

1251
01:08:37,500 --> 01:08:39,300
not probably not that great for 
you so I don't tend to eat a lot

1252
01:08:39,300 --> 01:08:41,899
of it but I got some of the 
other day and I realized it's 

1253
01:08:41,899 --> 01:08:44,700
the first time I've ever had it 
since We've had Murphy which is 

1254
01:08:44,700 --> 01:08:50,399
he's a year old now. 
He was so upset with me so upset

1255
01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:54,000
with me because obviously he it 
smells like dog food to him, you

1256
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,399
know, it's just dried meat. 
So he's going over to me. 

1257
01:08:57,399 --> 01:09:01,800
Like how dare you buy food for 
me and then eat it in front of 

1258
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:05,200
me. 
Like he was real upset so he 

1259
01:09:05,200 --> 01:09:07,000
didn't get I didn't give him any
because he was being really 

1260
01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:13,000
annoying and then I had the beef
jerky bag in the trash under my 

1261
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:16,399
desk. 
Anytime I'd go somewhere he 

1262
01:09:16,399 --> 01:09:18,800
would keep sneak. 
He's doing exactly what he's 

1263
01:09:18,808 --> 01:09:20,600
doing now. 
And, and he says there's beef 

1264
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,200
jerky. 
He he still, I think he still 

1265
01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,100
smells the remnants of the beef 
jerky bag. 

1266
01:09:25,100 --> 01:09:27,700
That's wow. 
You've created a monster. 

1267
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:33,899
All right, Murphy, I mean, is 
it, is it bad? 

1268
01:09:33,899 --> 01:09:36,300
Is it bad for dogs to eat a 
little bit of beef jerky? 

1269
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:37,800
Probably not. 
No, I shouldn't. 

1270
01:09:38,899 --> 01:09:41,500
He wasn't like They could be 
eating it and he'd get like 

1271
01:09:41,500 --> 01:09:43,100
right up in my face and be 
smelling. 

1272
01:09:43,100 --> 01:09:47,800
It it does look just doing a 
quick Google search, it does 

1273
01:09:47,800 --> 01:09:52,200
look like there are specific, 
you know, beef jerky ask dog 

1274
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:56,000
treats so maybe you can maybe 
you can hook him up you know as 

1275
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,900
Christmas his birthday. 
What do we got? 

1276
01:09:57,900 --> 01:10:02,100
Coming up for him, his birthday 
just passed, but we need to do 

1277
01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:04,400
some some recall training 
because he's been a little bit 

1278
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:07,100
of a wild card at the park 
recently. 

1279
01:10:07,100 --> 01:10:11,000
So wow. 
He sounds like he's on a bender.

1280
01:10:14,700 --> 01:10:16,800
All right guys thank you for 
hanging out. 

1281
01:10:16,900 --> 01:10:20,700
As always if you guys want to 
join us in the Discord, we are 

1282
01:10:20,700 --> 01:10:25,200
over their links down below, 
excited to draft excited, to get

1283
01:10:25,200 --> 01:10:30,300
Rollin already on 2022 for Pat, 
I'm Pete, Gretsch, should be 

1284
01:10:30,300 --> 01:10:31,900
back next week. 
We'll talk to you then.