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All right, guys, it is time for 
what I believe is becoming an 

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annual tradition around here and
ship chasing. 

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I bust out the Google Sheets, 
and we do a dynasty, rookie mock

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draft, this year, we're bringing
in some of our friends. 

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We got JJ, the late Ron Kuby 
Blair from Road of is and a new 

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Face around here. 
Ron Stewart, you guys might know

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him hanging around in the ship, 
chasing VIPs. 

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Also his terrific, YouTube 
channel. 

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We are going to do a 12-team 
mock. 

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Each of us are going to have two
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through it and of course, yes we
will find out who is this 

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year's? 
Jalen wider Meyer all tonight on

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ship? 
Jason prier homos. 

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I need a hand job. 
Fix your side for your bar. 

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Chase. 
All right, I know, I know blares

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no, no, stranger to the ship 
chasing, but Ron and JJ. 

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I believe this is your guys's 
first time on ship. 

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Chasing somehow JJ. 
Have you been on before? 

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I don't know, man. 
I don't know. 

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I do shows with each of you 
individually these bit but I 

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don't know, I don't know. 
I don't know if I've been on or 

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not. 
What are you gonna do about it 

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before the show? 
I was like, I mean, we've 

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definitely done that video with 
you baby. 

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Maybe not well JJ. 
I will say you were the exact 

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type of person that I feel so 
bad asking to do a show at night

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in. 
This isn't saying you're a 

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boomer, but I do just feel like 
you're like, dude, I'm in bed by

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10:00. 
Like, why are you asking me to 

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be up? 
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30. 
This is past my bedtime for 

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sure. 
There's no doubt. 

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Well, I appreciate you. 
Do it, and then, Ron on the 

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other hand, just revealed he was
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games. 
So, you're just getting started 

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tonight. 
Yeah, I fell asleep on this 

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couch last night, I truly hate 
to say it and will be the show 

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came out last night and I 
couldn't put it down so I cannot

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relate to the, you know. 
East Coast going to bed early, 

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everything. 
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I don't think I fit that 
demographic. 

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Awesome. 
Blair, how are you doing? 

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Normally I feel like we have a 
guitar in the background. 

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You got the you got the 
bookshelf going today, though. 

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It's right. 
Change it up a little bit today.

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Wanted to feel smarter for this 
Mock Draft, so break everything.

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So there you go. 
Yeah. 

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I will not be able to question 
any of your selections because 

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of the rich mahogany, bound 
books behind you. 

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How it works. 
Pat, how are you doing the chat 

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was mentioning it. 
You did an awesome podcast with 

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j.j. earlier. 
Everyone should check that out. 

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What's going on in your world? 
Yeah, good prep for this podcast

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because we talked through the 
rookie class, we hiked up is a 

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band of Canada which was pretty 
good timing. 

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That's a do that. 
Yeah, kind of a kind of last 

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call for further hype and we got
it in ya. 

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So everyone should check that 
pot out was a good one. 

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I've been laughing about the 
easy stuff because I'm famously 

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in a million Underdog. 
Slow. 

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Listen, I've been logging into 
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and he's gone the pic before me.
Now every time I looked it up 

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like this JJ and Pat, Steve its 
coveted did Ha Brody. 

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The produce steam is reloading a
grouch. 

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How are you? 
Good. 

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Good. 
I haven't you know, with all the

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Omni stuff and everything else 
have been talking about how I am

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way behind on the prospect 
stuff. 

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I'm the the six-man here but I 
got up to speed today with your 

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guys's pod with JJ's Awesome 
Prospect guide with all the word

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of this stuff right up, right? 
A playwright Andrews piece 

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today. 
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crunching for this drafted, a 
last-minute prep for my further.

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Mocked her house Gretchen. 
I think I'll be good through 

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like the first five or six picks
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start looking for the next Jalen
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I think is my strategy for 
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So great, I moved through the 
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year. 
You know what it's gonna be 

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shooting fish in a barrel though
for us if we're trying to find 

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late-round tight ends, I mean 
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unearth a late-round prospect 
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go because we want to make sure 
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which most of you will be doing 
when you're doing your Dynasty 

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drafts. 
We are each going to have two 

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Selections in the round and to 
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one selection in the top, six 
picks and one selection in the 

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back half of the draft, I have 
used the incredibly powerful 

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model to determine this. 
It is called random. 

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Org, right here, I am going to 
get Ron. 

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How many times should I 
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This is for pics. 
One through six. 

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Give me 1440. 
Okay, all right. 

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I'm sorry. 48 just said it's 
past his bedtime. 

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You want me to ratify this 14 
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All right? 
What To, I didn't know, it's 

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3:14. 
All right. 

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JJ did get rewarded from this 
the influencer 101, right here. 

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JJ, how many times do I 
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half of the draft to what? 
And to Pat is going to have? 

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B-17 Gretsch. 
The 112 and I will get the 

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Google sheet going. 
This is a special service I 

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offer for mock drafters. 
I will let you know my rates but

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JJ, let's just get right off to 
it. 

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The 101, we are doing a super 
Flex tied in premium. 

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Rookie draft, this was the 
format invented by David 

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kitchen, so we do need to pay 
our respects to him. 

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Vajayjay, the 1011 of History. 
Nope. 

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For is yours. 
Who's the 101 in this in this 

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class you know? 
I you know Pat and I actually 

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had a little bit of a discussion
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know you could maybe make the 
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to go. 
The quarterback route even 

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though Bichons on the board but 
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going with the best Prospect 
running back prospects and say 

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qualms Berkeley in be John. 
Robinson with this with this one

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on one pick. 
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about a little bit and how you 
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should start to look silly. 
Do you think if we had more of a

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locked and loaded 101 like prot,
like if we had a Trevor Lawrence

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or a joke bro do you think this 
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would be it would be more 
difficult for sure. 

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You know I personally know 
whenever I'm building my Dynasty

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rosters, my superflex rosters. 
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lot of you guys and you know I'm
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And because of the way they just
number one and can appreciate in

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value but also their currency 
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I think I mentioned this the Pat
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Stroud or a Bryce young is is 
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Jean entering year to if one of 
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your water has a good season, it
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time. 
Robinson is just so bus proof 

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that that it feels. 
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Easy to click that button with 
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I was just telling you guys this
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everything you just said about 
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I mean, these, this is a pretty 
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They don't have to do a ton to 
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value for like, Lance and Fields
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picks and startups, right? 
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now with the quarterback 
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good Prospect, right? 
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something to say if you're not 
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probably shouldn't be going like
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Prospects can bust. 
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a horrible or like like if I'm 
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think it's fine to just get as 
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necessarily have to force the 
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quarterbacks, I can tell you, 
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Today on my patreon, my 
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included rookies this month with
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Robinson's like a late first and
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First round pick and startups. 
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shroud and Bryce young as like a
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So like it's not like, you know,
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difference there but it's not 
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like I would fault someone for 
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because you're sitting there 
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a value of x and the Of out and 
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well try to get that difference 
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Instead of just forcing the 
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Is there anyone on the panel who
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Crickets. 
I think I might I might make a 

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case for strap because I do 
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I think the obvious is not an 
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I think everyone is saying Bijan
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I think there is something to be
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We've been really fortunate with
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Prospects over the last five or 
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take one Berkeley as hit Freese 
Hall hit. 

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There were other prospects, 
maybe they weren't as good at 

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the time. 
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year that the bishop saying He 
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back. 
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Robinson's level as a prospect 
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back into the history. 
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grammarking. 
Room was a really really highly 

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regarded Prospect directions and
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like Bijan Robinson could land 
in a bad spot to especially 

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pre-draft there's possibilities 
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that just I mean there are tough
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I embrace all just show that he 
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Overcome even Zach Wilson at 
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enough. 
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it like from a, from a long-term
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Stroud, if we really are pretty 
confident, he's going to go 

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one-on-one. 
We know the draft, capital is 

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100% there. 
I mean, if you don't fall a 

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little bit to compared to what 
we're all thinking, top half of 

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the first round, potentially for
him, right? 

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But he could be end of the first
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It could be second round. 
Still probably right? 

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I mean there's reasons that his 
value could not be as strong by 

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you. 
Year, 2 and year 3, I think you 

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can make the case for the likely
101 overall quarterback. 

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I don't know. 
I think he's going to do the 

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most for your team this year and
he'll be worth the most of every

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rookie in this class, probably 
next year. 

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And it's at a position where 
Like Austin, hecklers going to 

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fall way off in value. 
Like redraft value Christian 

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McCaffrey is going to fall way 
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bark was going to fall way off. 
So he gives you this really 

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really rare opportunity. 
I think with your yeah if you're

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competing obviously you take 
Bijan but I think even if you're

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kind of like in the mix because 
you can just that there's no 

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other rb1 like he has to be the 
dynasty RV. 

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Well because there is no other 
option and right and his his 

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Prospect profile is is a 
beautiful thing. 

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He's coming along at the right 
time, but he also is that guy as

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a prospect profile. 
I think if he misses he's like, 

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Joe Mixon or Leonard, fournette 
would be like a really bad 

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outcome intern. 
But those guys were, like, 

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pretty productive. 
And then they just, they never 

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were Superstars. 
As my point, like, I think his 

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downside risk is like still, 
it's not that bad, but the one 

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thing, speaking of downside 
risks, like if you look 

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historically at startup ATP and 
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Drafted this high in a start-up 
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First three rounds. 
I mean, they generally all 

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appreciate and value 
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I mean, it's a very even guys 
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Well, still are highly sought 
after that. 

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receivers to. 
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they're this good, from a 
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rarely will lose that value year
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So there's more of a value store
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that's, that's good. 
You kind of made this point to 

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me, with pits been, you got me 
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Pitt's appreciated in value 
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were like, oh no. 
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That between the rookie in that 
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is like I like shroud to but 
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a relative crap shoot at times 
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get turned off by quarterbacks 
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I mean, we're seeing it with, 
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And so, you know, I think Think,
I think it's a safe. 

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The safest bet is bhishan. 
Yeah, that's right. 

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And I think the other thing we 
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continue making picks but I mean
these guys strout and young are 

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not even necessarily going to 
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production in year 1 since they 
don't really run the ball a lot,

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right? 
So that's my age. 

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I think you'd be easy for people
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disappointing year, one, if 
they're not really passers. 

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Well, show the ceiling that they
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Allen or Jalen hurts and scoring
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qv1 for their whole career. 
That's not right. 

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That's not sexy. 
Yeah. 

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Well, speaking of sexy, speaking
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and dongho for a drone to AR-15 
bitches. 

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Come on down. 
You guys could talk about your 

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CJ, Stroud, you want to talk 
about not having consequences 

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with a pic. 
It's in a mock draft, in a 

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Google sheet in March baby. 
We're taking And Anthony 

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Richardson Sky, High ceiling 
Fest athlete we've seen at the 

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quarterback position of all 
time. 

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Come on, Anthony, Richard said 
poke holes in my selection. 

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I'm just glad my 106 is off the 
board before I'm up at 106. 

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Wow, I mean, honestly like I 
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this because you should take 
thee, John Robinson. 

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But like if you were gonna make 
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making, I think it's with 
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that's the guy you can't get. 
That's the guy you're not, you 

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can't. 
Not go to Joshua Allen and you 

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know, or Jalen hurts his owner 
and say I want him there. 

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It's very difficult to get those
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He at least gives you a tiny 
tiny sliver of that potential 

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outcome Stroud. 
I feel like you're getting I 

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don't know like maybe attack 
Prescott or something like it's 

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just it's actually you can go to
the trade market and find that 

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guy. 
Ron, where are you at on? 

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How you would approach the the 
23 spot here with these with 

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these quarterbacks and 
superflex? 

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I actually have like I made a 
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rankings to the side here. 
Anthony Richardson was my 102 as

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well let's go. 
I agree to like CJ Stroud and 

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even pricing. 
They kind of come off as like to

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ish type assets. 
Like a sort of like Jared Goff 

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early on They could definitely 
be good but you kind of they 

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almost have to realize that 
ceiling and that value ceiling. 

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And Dynasty to, you know, get 
into the first round. 

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You have to thread such a thin 
needle, as a pastor with them, 

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like they have to sort of 
challenge for like 35 Plus 

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passing touchdowns to get into 
that, you know, difference 

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making quarterback production, 
with Eddie Richardson, he could 

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be a League average passer, and 
I really don't think he's as raw

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as sort of everybody says, with 
Anthony Richardson. 

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I know the completion percentage
isn't great and he kind of comes

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off as like, Maybe not Josh, 
Allen ish but you know one of 

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these guys who were projects 
right, like a will love us but I

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think the difference is that he 
doesn't take terrible sacks. 

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I've been messing around with 
like EPA lost on the facts 

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recently and will let his head 
like, - 23.4 this year, which is

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like awful, he's just like 
taking baths acts and you have a

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guy like Anthony Richardson 
who's running around right like 

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Justin field. 
So Coral sacks last year and 

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we're just it was only at -7.1 
which was like less than Bryce 

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young. 
So he's not he's not, you know, 

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messing around in the pocket and
like taking Terrible. 

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Terrible - plays he's poised and
natural in the pocket and not 

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being, you know, frantic and 
stuff. 

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So I think that there's a lot of
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that he is as low floor of a guy
as a pastor as some people 

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think. 
I like it Ron, he's my 10 20, 

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he's your why don't you pack? 
Yeah, I haven't wanted to the 

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NFL's, definitely moving. 
I mean, that was a big storyline

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from last year. 
The mobility of cubies, the ways

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of defenses are playing, what's 
that? 

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That's allowed offenses to do in
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game, as teams are playing deep.
I mean, like his, his Athletics,

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everything you just said and 
then, and then his athleticism, 

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I think just fits where the NFL 
is moving right now. 

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So, well at the quarterback 
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not it's not hard to make the 
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I do think the Anthony 
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because I best ball brain, it is
like a little different for 

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redraft, right where there is 
some risk. 

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Like, you know, if the Seahawks 
take him and sitting behind Gina

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like a, then you burn a pic, but
obviously Dynasty is an entire 

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different conversation and does 
it change your fact for your 

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opinion on him? 
If he were to sit here for 

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dynasty or for you guys? 
Is it just like, no, I'm playing

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the long game here. 
Anyways. 

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I think you kind of have to 
assume that going in with with 

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Richardson that it's not you 
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At least front half of you, any 
23 type situation. 

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You know. 
I also think you know I talked 

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to Pat about this a little bit 
yesterday. 

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But I also think that like he's 
like the slam dunk qb1 and 

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single quarterback leagues you 
know and very very easy to go 

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that route because it doesn't 
matter, right? 

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Like if you miss on that it's 
not a big deal. 

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I can understand though. 
Like the safety at least like 

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especially pre-draft, right? 
Because we still don't know for 

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sure what's going on with with 
Richardson and we're he's going 

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to land and how this is going to
go. 

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We all assume he's probably know
the top 10 in the draft. 

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But like, you know what? 
If this becomes sort of like a 

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Malik will this situation like 
last year where he just Falls 

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Way Way further than we expect. 
And then all of a sudden you're 

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drafting these you know you're 
drafting him over a Stroud or a 

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or Bryce young and a superflex 
league, and you're going to be 

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punching yourself in the nuts 
after after doing that. 

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And so I think that's the the 
the anti Richardson argument 

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right now, I think once we 
officially see these top five, 

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Ten draft Capital. 
Then the conversation is going 

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to really, really heat up 
because I think we'd all agree 

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that from a strictly ceiling 
standpoint. 

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He's got it in this class about 
of the big three. 

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That's a great point. 
I mean, that's that's part of 

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why I really do have them six, 
but it's largely because of that

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cancer. 
I think there's more risk that 

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he can fold. 
And then the fantasy Community 

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is like, I think he's like, he 
looked by the fact that was seen

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as pre, combine mock drafts and 
I love Road of isyou. 

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Guys had him in the middle of 
the second round. 

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Blair pre-comp. 
I think what since the combine 

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we've all gotten really excited 
and rightfully so, right. 

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And the NFL is going to get more
excited by those compound 

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numbers. 
And if you go stop time, like JJ

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said, then I think it all comes 
together, but there is some 

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concern still that, you know, 
we're accelerating too fast, I 

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don't know. 
All right, let's let's head to 

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Blair here with the the 13. 
What are you doing here? 

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Blair. 
All right, I'm gonna go off off 

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my usual blueprint and take 
Jameer Gibbs here. 

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Oh, okay, I I don't know if I 
would have guessed this pic from

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you, speak on that. 
I mean, I think Gibbs if Bijan 

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weren't in the class, we'd be 
talking about him as the 101. 

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He Got those Alvin Kamara Vibes.
So I'm here for it. 

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And I feel like the detractors 
when they bring up Gibbs, they 

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talk about his weight. 
I mean, what are like, what are 

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some comps or like realistic 
kind of production outcomes that

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you're hoping for with Gibbs? 
Yeah, that's a good question. 

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I'm not really worried about his
weight. 

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I think, you know, we've seen 
small running backs, have a lot 

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of Of success. 
I mean you know when I bring up 

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these comps, they're going to 
sound ridiculous. 

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But if we're talking like Eckler
and McCaffrey, then you see how 

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these small guys? 
And hit, I'm just pulling up 

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some of his Sims in the Box 
Score Scout. 

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Sorry, bad radio, you're good, 
you're good. 

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Yeah, I mean I did. 
Would you guys cuz and it does 

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start to really get interesting 
with the superflex combo because

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we're talking about Stroud at 
you. 

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And now we took another 
quarterback and Gibbs over him 

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and I know JJ and Pat. 
When you guys were talking about

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him, the other day, you were 
talking to how he might be, 

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someone like DeAndre Swift, 
where it takes even a little 

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while until he actually starts 
to get used in a way that's 

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really. 
Doctor for fantasy. 

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Yeah, I think he's someone who 
again is going to be able to 

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probably hold value your over 
year because we generally see 

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that with higher end running 
backs, but I do have concerns. 

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I personally have concerns about
the wait, not because like he 

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didn't hit a 200-pound threshold
or something like that. 

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And I'm just like, yeah, get out
of here. 

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Not two hundred pounds patent. 
I joked about how he didn't 

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drink enough milk that day but 
you know, I'm definitely not, 

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you know, in that have that 
belief. 

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But, you know, we do generally 
see, like 210 plus pound backs 

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just fare better. 
And fantasy, and if you, if you 

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adjust that even for, you know, 
where guys are being selected in

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the draft because obviously we 
don't see a ton of these like 

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smaller backs, get drafted in 
round two or as day, two picks. 

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And so, obviously, you know, 
there's a that's definitely 

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consideration need to think 
about. 

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But historically, just tough 
because when you really find, 

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and I'm curious to see what road
of is is saying about the comps 

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and stuff, because it feels like
his comps to get good ones, you 

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have to go back to like the 2000
to 2010. 

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Range like to get like the CJ 
spiller's, the Chris Johnson, 

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like those kind Reggie Bush like
those kinds of players whereas 

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like in my model that I find 
comps that are based on 2011 and

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onward, it's like Isaiah peed 
and Giovanni Bernard, you know. 

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So it's just a little bit tough.
I mean, I think there's a little

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bit of volatility tooth profile,
but I think from a value 

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standpoint, you should be able 
to hold value year-over-year, 

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best receiving back in this 
class. 

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Super, super Dynamic. 
Really, really good player. 

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I just have those concerns about
what has His workload might look

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like and then those comps are 
just you know it's just it's 

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tough to find those really 
accurate ones. 

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That's a good point. 
I see Isaiah peed is one that 

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has show up near the top 
Bernards on this list to going 

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back, a little farther, you get 
javeed best which is kind of 

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interesting. 
And then, the other guys are all

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are all about 15 pounds heavier.
So, you know, you get like etn 

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and, and DeMarco Murray can 
make, it is those guys are a 

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little bit bigger, so there is 
something, there's something a 

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little bit off there. 
I mean, the one thing, if a guy 

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is going to be going to come in 
under 200 and be really small, 

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you want him to be super fast 
which gives was so yeah. 

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And you want to be receiving 
back. 

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Exactly. 
And there's also something to be

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said for the fact that like not 
a lot of sub 200 pound guys play

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at Alabama and getting used like
Gibbs got used so it's like he's

445
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:06,800
not he is kind of a unique guy. 
I I worry about if you taking 

446
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,600
him over the quarterbacks I 
don't know that he's going to 

447
00:24:08,608 --> 00:24:10,900
increase the ton and I think I 
agree with Jay Jay I think a 

448
00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:14,600
hold value but I don't know that
he doesn't profile guy as a guy 

449
00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,900
who as a rookie is gonna get a 
Workhorse volume like even see 

450
00:24:17,900 --> 00:24:20,400
him seat and get Workhorse 
volume as a rookie and then he 

451
00:24:20,408 --> 00:24:22,200
turned into the League's biggest
Workhorse. 

452
00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,000
So that would be my concern with
taking them over the, 

453
00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:31,100
quarterbacks your point about 
Henry's was just making me think

454
00:24:31,100 --> 00:24:33,400
it's one of the things about 
comps, were you guys like about 

455
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,400
this in your pot as well? 
Like, that, it's not an easy 

456
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:39,000
class to comp. 
I'm a noted kind of hater of 

457
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,800
comps in general. 
I think we were lying them too 

458
00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:42,400
much. 
Like, I feel like every player 

459
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:46,400
is pretty unique. 
We caught these guys that after 

460
00:24:46,500 --> 00:24:48,100
Play your play couple years. 
It's like yeah. 

461
00:24:48,100 --> 00:24:50,700
Well that guy was way different.
We now know who that guy is like

462
00:24:50,700 --> 00:24:53,400
he is a different thing than 
anyone else. 

463
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:56,900
Every every player in the NFL 
like we never comp veterans who 

464
00:24:56,900 --> 00:24:58,300
have played in the NFL with each
other. 

465
00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,900
Very rarely, right. 
Like I do sometimes 

466
00:25:01,300 --> 00:25:04,700
occasionally, there's a couple 
like smaller courts but from 

467
00:25:04,700 --> 00:25:06,400
those parts like Jamar. 
Chase is Jamar. 

468
00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,000
Chase, just in Jefferson's 
Justin Jefferson like all of 

469
00:25:09,008 --> 00:25:12,000
these dudes are exactly who they
are their own little delicate 

470
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,900
flowers. 
Is I like to like and I think 

471
00:25:14,900 --> 00:25:17,400
Gibbs like your point about the 
Bama undersized back. 

472
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,000
They actually used it. 
Like that seems relevant to me 

473
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:24,300
like he and he was good there. 
I would also just say Gibbs the 

474
00:25:24,300 --> 00:25:28,000
things he does well like if he 
he does things that dynasty 

475
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,400
managers will love right? 
If he breaks off some 60-yard 

476
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,800
touchdown runs like a lava c.j.,
Spiller comps and he's catching 

477
00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,400
a few balls, Dynasty manager 
will be very happy to 

478
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:42,500
extrapolate a workload increase 
in year two, you know, like 

479
00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:48,800
there it is or not That's true. 
That's actually a really strong 

480
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:51,200
counter to my point of him not 
increasing in value. 

481
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,400
Like he could just increase on 
in value, purely on height. 

482
00:25:54,900 --> 00:25:56,700
Seems he broke out near to 
what's happening? 

483
00:25:57,100 --> 00:26:00,000
I mean, I mean to be buried and 
it's all right to be fair, 

484
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,800
Kenneth Walker kind of did that 
this past year. 

485
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,800
Like yeah, like Walker was not a
pass. 

486
00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,100
Catcher was not that great of a 
run. 

487
00:26:06,100 --> 00:26:09,200
I mean like he had those monster
home, run plays, but he was dead

488
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,400
last in the league. 
In success rate, he was dead. 

489
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,300
Last in the league of gaining 
positive yards and he still 

490
00:26:14,300 --> 00:26:18,100
became the dynasty like rb3. 
Despite, you know, all of that. 

491
00:26:18,100 --> 00:26:20,000
I mean he's a good player, don't
get me wrong but it's not like 

492
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,900
he like was nearly as good as 
what the the market probably 

493
00:26:23,900 --> 00:26:25,700
probably thinks of them. 
So it's just one of those things

494
00:26:25,700 --> 00:26:27,500
like these run these running 
backs gain value. 

495
00:26:27,500 --> 00:26:29,600
Just generally speaking, you 
know when they're drafted and 

496
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:32,500
startups in the first like two 
or three rounds and and also 

497
00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:35,000
because of what we just talked 
about how there's this Gap, 

498
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,700
usually at the top of our, not 
always. 

499
00:26:36,700 --> 00:26:39,100
But especially right now, the 
top running back were like we 

500
00:26:39,100 --> 00:26:40,900
don't want the old running back 
City more. 

501
00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:42,600
So, the new ones have to take 
their place. 

502
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,000
They have to be the top three 
running back. 

503
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,800
Yeah. 
All right. 

504
00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,900
Ron. 
You're On the clock with pick 

505
00:26:47,900 --> 00:26:49,600
for. 
We are known to piss yellow 

506
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:50,900
around here. 
Every once in a while. 

507
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:52,100
Are you going to grab a 
quarterback? 

508
00:26:53,100 --> 00:26:54,900
Yeah, I'm going to take a 
quarterback. 

509
00:26:55,700 --> 00:26:57,900
I'll take, I'll take Bryce young
here. 

510
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:00,700
Mmm. 
Really? 

511
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:04,500
I actually loved Amir Gibbs 
really the issue for me is like 

512
00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:07,800
I think as much as I was sort of
saying you know like Jared Goff 

513
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:09,500
and two are kind of like the 
range of outcomes for these 

514
00:27:09,500 --> 00:27:11,800
quarterbacks, I think, as well, 
like they could also be, you 

515
00:27:11,808 --> 00:27:15,100
know, a lot better than that and
you know, jobber it, Joe Borough

516
00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:19,300
ish, I guess. 
But like go in a dinosaur like 

517
00:27:19,300 --> 00:27:20,700
right now. 
And if you try and trade for 

518
00:27:20,700 --> 00:27:23,300
like even like the back and keep
you ones like the Sean Watson. 

519
00:27:23,300 --> 00:27:25,500
Like if you go out there and try
and like feel the reasonable 

520
00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:29,900
offer for like DeShaun Watson or
Prescott Kyler like Lamar 

521
00:27:29,900 --> 00:27:33,200
Jackson, like any of these guys,
it's almost impossible to even 

522
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,900
get into that conversation but 
now like outside of like Bruce 

523
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,200
Hall and Bijan Robinson like if 
you're going to try and like get

524
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,900
to First in return for your 
running back, it's going to be a

525
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:45,800
pretty tough conversation to 
have so naturally if a 

526
00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,300
quarterback like Bryce Young 
like CJ Stroud, they both go, 

527
00:27:48,300 --> 00:27:51,300
you know, top to an NFL draft 
and I guess the way I see it as 

528
00:27:51,300 --> 00:27:54,000
they have a path to you know, 
first round startup value. 

529
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,500
Like if you look at startups 
right now, it's eight to ten 

530
00:27:56,500 --> 00:27:58,700
quarterbacks. 
And it's like, it's Chase 

531
00:27:58,700 --> 00:28:00,300
Jefferson, and it's 8 to 10 
quarterback. 

532
00:28:00,300 --> 00:28:03,200
So I'll just take whatever 
position, can get me into their 

533
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,200
Eileen Bryce tongue. 
I think. 

534
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,500
Like, literally I'll have him 
back to Mac and my rankings like

535
00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:09,900
my startup rankings. 
I haven't probably middle. 

536
00:28:09,900 --> 00:28:12,300
The second round of startups 
like back-to-back. 

537
00:28:12,300 --> 00:28:15,700
I only lean Bryce Young. 
I think it's a little bit more 

538
00:28:15,700 --> 00:28:17,700
rushing upside than CJ strata 
things. 

539
00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:20,000
A little bit less like statue. 
So if I have two guys that I 

540
00:28:20,008 --> 00:28:23,900
think are very comparable, I'll 
just take the guy who I think 

541
00:28:23,900 --> 00:28:26,900
has a little bit more rushing 
upside in Bryce. 

542
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:29,300
You only because rushing yards 
Market shows little bit better I

543
00:28:29,308 --> 00:28:32,500
was looking on PFF, I don't know
if I have the stat with me, but 

544
00:28:32,500 --> 00:28:35,000
they take out sacks from rushing
yards, which is nice because I 

545
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,200
like college reference or 
whatever include sacks. 

546
00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:40,500
His rushing, in his final year, 
wasn't bad at all. 

547
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:43,300
Bryce, showing you had 311 
rushing yards and four 

548
00:28:43,300 --> 00:28:45,300
touchdowns. 
I believe. 

549
00:28:46,500 --> 00:28:49,400
I wish I had shroud on me too, 
but I don't but 311 rushing 

550
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:51,100
yards and four touchdowns is 
like decent, you know? 

551
00:28:51,100 --> 00:28:54,800
That's like around, were you're 
hoping he's obviously not going 

552
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,000
to be like, the Lamar Jackson 
area, but you're hoping that he 

553
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:00,400
can get into the, you know, 
three fantasy points on per game

554
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:01,700
on the ground. 
Like, I think like, Borough, 

555
00:29:01,700 --> 00:29:04,200
Trevor Lawrence Mahomes were 
sort of, in that area this year.

556
00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:07,700
I don't think it'd be crazy to 
see young slip in that area. 

557
00:29:09,700 --> 00:29:12,900
Love it. 
Does anyone else have young over

558
00:29:12,900 --> 00:29:14,900
Stroud? 
Or are you guys all Stroud, over

559
00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:17,400
young? 
I have young over Stroud. 

560
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,700
I've got every young, but I 
don't, I don't have like a 

561
00:29:20,700 --> 00:29:23,900
massively strong opinion on it. 
I just love that it. 

562
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:27,000
Like I was talking about 
Richardson six in my list but 

563
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,300
like this top six really? 
And it is nice to get the 

564
00:29:30,300 --> 00:29:33,200
six-pack because I'm just gonna 
let you guys decide for me, but 

565
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,200
it's really tight, right? 
Like and so the guy who's - 300 

566
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:42,100
to be the one on One hasn't been
taken yet through for pics, 

567
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:42,800
right? 
Yeah. 

568
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,900
And but like you can make a 
really strong case for these 

569
00:29:44,900 --> 00:29:46,100
guys. 
I wasn't really trying to knock 

570
00:29:46,100 --> 00:29:48,300
Richardson when I said that and 
that's why I keep going back to.

571
00:29:48,300 --> 00:29:50,600
It's like yeah that's where I 
landed on it but I wanted to 

572
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:52,100
have him second to you know what
I mean? 

573
00:29:52,100 --> 00:29:55,800
Like they're these are all 
viable picks in it seems really 

574
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,700
flat. 
This is that for any of you guys

575
00:29:58,700 --> 00:30:02,400
I think conventional wisdom is 
Stroud to the Panthers. 

576
00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,700
Young to the Texans. 
Is that factoring in? 

577
00:30:05,700 --> 00:30:09,200
Like you guys prefer Panthers 
Texans as like a landing spot. 

578
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:11,600
Or is it just like all things 
are equal here? 

579
00:30:11,900 --> 00:30:13,800
They're both pretty awful. 
If I'm being honest. 

580
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,000
Like, like, you could talk me 
into like the Panthers bring you

581
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,800
in like Reich and the count and 
like you know, like that seems 

582
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,800
like a very functional. 
These guys are coming here, 

583
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:25,300
they're having their pick of the
litter. 

584
00:30:25,300 --> 00:30:28,600
Like it's not like you know than
just getting planted a 

585
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,300
quarterback I got is Luffy Smith
even still on the Texans. 

586
00:30:31,300 --> 00:30:33,400
I don't even know what like 
infrastructure they have in 

587
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,300
place over there in this Lobby. 
They got PFF. 

588
00:30:36,300 --> 00:30:39,300
Bobby PFF. 
Oh okay yeah. 

589
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,100
Yeah, it's tough. 
I don't know. 

590
00:30:41,100 --> 00:30:42,700
Yeah. 
So I'll take like I think 

591
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:44,700
they're both pretty pretty 
terrible spots. 

592
00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,800
Yeah, I think the Texans is 
pretty good spot. 

593
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,700
I think you're getting Shanahan 
style offense coming in and like

594
00:30:53,700 --> 00:30:58,600
Bryce young is kind of to e, but
he's like to eat with like, more

595
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:02,100
fun scramble stuff going on and 
that I have a number two as well

596
00:31:02,100 --> 00:31:05,100
because I agree with you Ron I 
think he's got a little bit more

597
00:31:05,300 --> 00:31:08,700
willingness to run and you do 
worry about the size with that 

598
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:12,700
but he scrambled more. 
He also had some really nice 

599
00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:16,000
throws under pressure. 
And I think that's pretty like a

600
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,800
guy who's looking to scramble 
and is like hitting deep throws 

601
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,300
under pressure is a pretty 
decent fantasy profile. 

602
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:27,000
Plus he's very, very accurate. 
Great throw or anyway, so it's 

603
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:28,600
slightly prefer Bryce young 
plus. 

604
00:31:29,100 --> 00:31:32,200
I think the landing spot is 
like, may be significantly 

605
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,700
better because the Panthers are 
just like Reich. 

606
00:31:34,700 --> 00:31:37,500
I don't think is a bad coach, 
but I don't know that. 

607
00:31:37,500 --> 00:31:39,700
They've just like, they've been 
in the wilderness for so long up

608
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:41,600
the Texans. 
Haven't, but if you're getting a

609
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:46,100
Shanahan style offense there, 
With a little bit more 

610
00:31:46,100 --> 00:31:49,400
analytically minded staff. 
I'd rather have my quarter back 

611
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:54,500
over there. 
All right, let's let's go then 

612
00:31:54,500 --> 00:31:58,100
to Pat, you do have Pick 5 here.
Gretsch said. 

613
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,600
Nice top six, tier for him. 
So who's going to be your pick 

614
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,600
at five? 
I'm going to pick Stroud even 

615
00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,200
though I just put it on a little
bit. 

616
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,400
But I think everything Ron said 
about the the market I would 

617
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:15,700
love to take jsn here just for 
fun, but like you need him to 

618
00:32:15,700 --> 00:32:20,500
hit like his high-end outcome 
and then like, if he turns into 

619
00:32:20,500 --> 00:32:24,200
CD lamb, like cool, but is CD 
lamb worth more than, you know, 

620
00:32:24,700 --> 00:32:26,300
a really solid starter and the 
other. 

621
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,400
The other thing is that at 
quarterback, I mean, the other 

622
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,200
thing is, the, the NFL seems to 
be shifting a little bit. 

623
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:37,400
We're like, You if you're not as
protected as one of these 

624
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,300
veterans is, you would have been
like 5 or 10 years ago, like the

625
00:32:40,300 --> 00:32:42,400
bottoms falling out on some of 
the veteran quarterback. 

626
00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:44,800
So, to get a guy who's on a 
rookie quarterback quarterback 

627
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,700
deal and looks like, you know, 
he'll be like a pretty 

628
00:32:48,700 --> 00:32:53,400
productive guy then it's just 
like that safety plus production

629
00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,600
combo, that's really hard to 
find at the most important 

630
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,000
position. 
Checking in on the chat here, 

631
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,800
shouldn't it be back to Bachrach
guys? 

632
00:33:04,900 --> 00:33:06,300
Catch up, watch from the 
beginning. 

633
00:33:06,300 --> 00:33:11,000
We drew straws for one through 
six and the back half anyone 

634
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:15,300
else have thoughts on CJ stride?
He does like feel like the 

635
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:19,000
vanilla pick here but it did you
guys see some upside with strap?

636
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,500
I think the upside would be that
he runs more than you did in 

637
00:33:22,500 --> 00:33:24,800
college. 
I think we saw that a little bit

638
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:27,700
with fields to coming out of 
out, of Ohio State. 

639
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:31,200
So, you know, and he has Sighs 
profile over over young, 

640
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,400
obviously, to potentially, be 
able to do that. 

641
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,900
So I think it's sort of like the
unknown of that rushing profile 

642
00:33:37,900 --> 00:33:39,700
on him. 
Really unlocking that unleashing

643
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:42,100
that in the NFL, maybe doesn't 
happen, maybe doesn't come to 

644
00:33:42,100 --> 00:33:43,000
fruition. 
It's not going to come to 

645
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,400
fruition the way that it did 
with Justin Fields by any means.

646
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:48,600
But there could be a little bit 
more juice there than what he 

647
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,600
showed off in college. 
Yeah. 

648
00:33:53,300 --> 00:33:55,200
All right Gretch. 
You get to do it. 

649
00:33:55,208 --> 00:33:56,700
It sounds like you had a tear 
break here. 

650
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:59,100
Yeah. 
It's just send for me. 

651
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:02,500
I do want to say for sure these 
really smart people have 

652
00:34:02,500 --> 00:34:06,600
convinced me that he shouldn't 
be the one on one because the I 

653
00:34:06,608 --> 00:34:10,800
mean all those Russian takes 
our, I mean, a very valid. 

654
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,300
But yeah, Jason incredibly good 
only ran for tear outs last 

655
00:34:17,300 --> 00:34:18,300
year. 
I don't think we should even 

656
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:21,100
talk about that. 
Really at all. 

657
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:25,300
Rinse, 69, his freshman year. 
Basically, I mean, we have the 

658
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:28,199
One season where he ran about 
400 routes, but it wasn't a 

659
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:32,199
tremendous season mostly looking
at all these types of people to 

660
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:33,500
work. 
The one thing that I like to dig

661
00:34:33,500 --> 00:34:37,100
into a little bit sort of on my 
own, I'm a sucker for targets 

662
00:34:37,100 --> 00:34:40,400
per outrun went and dug up the 
call short Sprout run stuff. 

663
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,400
He was really really good that 
year, 20 over 28 percent, 

664
00:34:44,500 --> 00:34:49,199
Garrett Wilson was 28.9, Jason 
was 28.1. 

665
00:34:50,100 --> 00:34:53,500
Lava was 24.8 tart percent of 
their routes that they were 

666
00:34:53,507 --> 00:34:57,800
targeted on a lot of a Jace. 
Was the highest a DOT and Wilson

667
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,200
was a higher rate often Jason as
well. 

668
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:04,300
He's the lower a.it 9.3 lot 
fewer like are yards than a lava

669
00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,800
even though you know seeing more
targets but the fact that in 

670
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,600
that offense he was that 
productive, obviously we know 

671
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,200
the the yardage and the TVs and 
all the stats. 

672
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:17,400
And then I don't know that we're
talking enough about what he 

673
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:20,900
could be as a prospect when we 
see how good his Agility numbers

674
00:35:20,900 --> 00:35:25,200
were and he ran a pretty solid 
40 like he is a better athlete 

675
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,200
than I expected him to be. 
He's he actually I didn't think 

676
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,800
like I was talking last year and
you're watching film on the 

677
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,200
show. 
I was like, he's doesn't look 

678
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:33,000
like he's that good of an 
athlete. 

679
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,600
He's a good athlete, dude. 
Like he's a really agile music. 

680
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,400
99th percentile agility drills 
receiver. 

681
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,100
Yeah. 
Over at wrote of his looking at 

682
00:35:41,100 --> 00:35:45,600
their work out combine you know 
percentiles earlier today. 

683
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:49,700
Like it's like that good. 
It's a peek peek peek from what 

684
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,500
he's going to To do in the NFL 
like he's such a high floor guy,

685
00:35:52,900 --> 00:35:54,900
I'm ass. 
I mean, I play all PPR, I'm a 

686
00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:57,000
sucker for a guy like this in 
people. 

687
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,700
He's going to be a really good 
high for PPR guy. 

688
00:36:00,700 --> 00:36:04,200
I don't think like the juju 
comps are fair because Juju I 

689
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,900
mean I think you do was really 
good and then injuries probably 

690
00:36:06,900 --> 00:36:09,200
I don't I don't know like what? 
I don't know that we know what 

691
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,000
Juju is right like Jason's gonna
be really good. 

692
00:36:12,100 --> 00:36:13,900
Jason's gonna be good. 
Yeah, yeah. 

693
00:36:15,500 --> 00:36:16,900
Does. 
Does any? 

694
00:36:16,900 --> 00:36:19,800
I mean, Jason seems like the 
slam-dunk pick here. 

695
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,800
Would anyone have done anything 
differently? 

696
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,100
No. 
Yeah, Ron. 

697
00:36:27,100 --> 00:36:28,900
What are your thoughts on jsn? 
Where you at is? 

698
00:36:28,900 --> 00:36:32,500
He too slow to be an elite NFL 
producer? 

699
00:36:33,500 --> 00:36:36,000
No, I don't really look at 40 
yard dash a ton. 

700
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:41,700
I do love like the fact that he 
is an elite agile agility 

701
00:36:41,700 --> 00:36:44,100
athlete because that's all that 
really matters for him. 

702
00:36:44,100 --> 00:36:47,200
Like if he's running out of the 
slot with an under 10 yard, a 

703
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,900
doll with a 4240, like what do 
we really care about that? 

704
00:36:49,900 --> 00:36:52,600
You know what I mean? 
But the fact that, you know, in 

705
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,600
a telephone booth change of 
Direction like Witnessing all 

706
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,600
that, the fact that he's like 
amazing at that, it's really 

707
00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,200
nice to see because it fits his 
skillset, it's like lockstep 

708
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:02,700
with what he actually does on 
the field. 

709
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:05,400
Take it for what you want in 
terms of hands in the dirt. 

710
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:09,000
Like the this I was watching the
the combine feed on my computer 

711
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,500
when it was happening all the 
coaches were gushing about him 

712
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:13,200
and like The Gauntlet drills and
stuff. 

713
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,000
I think that there's honestly a 
chance that he goes top 10 in 

714
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:17,100
the draft. 
I know that he's sort of slip 

715
00:37:17,100 --> 00:37:18,900
into the you'll see him in the 
20s. 

716
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:21,100
It wouldn't shock me. 
If he goes like nines to the 

717
00:37:21,100 --> 00:37:24,500
Bears or you know I think like 
one of the later spots would be 

718
00:37:24,500 --> 00:37:27,700
like 12 to the And so I think 
you'll get draft a lot earlier 

719
00:37:27,700 --> 00:37:30,200
than people think. 
I agree with Brett Gretsch to 

720
00:37:30,700 --> 00:37:33,500
just throwing out your three 
like his profile is sort of like

721
00:37:33,700 --> 00:37:36,700
I would call it like Jamar Chase
light out of the slot where it's

722
00:37:36,700 --> 00:37:41,500
like nothing in you're one crazy
your to with like NFL producers 

723
00:37:41,500 --> 00:37:43,900
there and then you can just sort
of write off your three. 

724
00:37:44,100 --> 00:37:46,100
I think if he sort of sat out 
later March, tasted like he 

725
00:37:46,100 --> 00:37:48,500
might be like a lock to go. 
Like top, five, top ten right 

726
00:37:48,500 --> 00:37:50,000
now. 
If you just said, hey guys, I'm 

727
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,100
gonna prepare for the draft. 
I'm good on playing this year. 

728
00:37:54,100 --> 00:37:56,100
So, yeah. 
He's my wide receiver one as 

729
00:37:56,100 --> 00:37:58,500
well. 
Blair, what would you rather see

730
00:37:58,500 --> 00:37:59,800
from him? 
Like it? 

731
00:37:59,900 --> 00:38:02,300
You know, say top 12 draft 
Capital like, Ron's talking 

732
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:05,400
about go and have the chance to 
be the number one, on a team, 

733
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,100
like the Bears or the Texans. 
Or would you rather have him get

734
00:38:09,100 --> 00:38:12,100
a better quarterback in the back
half of the draft? 

735
00:38:12,100 --> 00:38:14,800
But maybe be more of like a 
Divan to Smith to an AJ brown 

736
00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:18,300
type. 
Oh good question, I think. 

737
00:38:20,100 --> 00:38:22,700
And that's so hard to say 
because it depends on like the 

738
00:38:22,700 --> 00:38:25,800
specific situation. 
I think, even if he ended up 

739
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:29,900
going in the back half to a team
of the good quarterback, he 

740
00:38:29,900 --> 00:38:33,400
could still end up taking that 
number one wide receiver spot. 

741
00:38:35,100 --> 00:38:37,100
Yeah, I mean, in the right 
situation, I think you're 

742
00:38:37,100 --> 00:38:39,500
talking about like, Cooper cup 
upside. 

743
00:38:39,500 --> 00:38:41,800
So wow, yeah, that's a good 
call. 

744
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:45,300
So yeah, at least statistically 
I love that. 

745
00:38:45,300 --> 00:38:48,400
Yeah, yeah. 
So I don't, I don't think it 

746
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:49,700
would be a problem if he 
slipped. 

747
00:38:49,900 --> 00:38:55,400
Little bit, you know, obviously 
a lot had to go right for cop to

748
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,700
have sort of Seasons. 
He did. 

749
00:38:57,700 --> 00:39:03,300
So if you see jsn go to the 
Bears, maybe we're kind of a 

750
00:39:03,308 --> 00:39:07,000
little more skeptical about that
outcome happening but yeah, I 

751
00:39:07,000 --> 00:39:09,100
meant more what I said 
statistically I didn't mean is 

752
00:39:09,500 --> 00:39:12,600
20 plus touchdowns or whatever. 
I meant more like a DOT and and 

753
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,000
the ability to create yak and 
some big plays even out of the 

754
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,300
slot like he did in some of his 
big Seasons. 

755
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,200
JJ, any jsn? 
Thoughts before we move on? 

756
00:39:21,300 --> 00:39:26,300
No, I mean, I think that that 
the fear with J SN is that he's 

757
00:39:26,300 --> 00:39:28,000
just a slock. 
I like, that's what people would

758
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:30,300
throw out there as the condo 
jsn. 

759
00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:33,000
But if he's gonna get drafted in
the first round, or the top half

760
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,900
of the first round, he's gonna 
play the perimeter teams are 

761
00:39:34,908 --> 00:39:37,500
going to draft in that high and 
just throw him in the slot. 

762
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,700
You know we had talked about guy
like CD lamb who played the slot

763
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:45,500
a lot but can play the perimeter
or you look at my like favorite 

764
00:39:45,500 --> 00:39:48,700
he didn't he didn't necessarily 
comp in my model this way but I 

765
00:39:48,700 --> 00:39:51,000
think that what we're looking at
As someone who is going to 

766
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:53,900
produce similar to like Keenan 
Allen at the NFL level where, 

767
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:56,300
you know, half of his routes are
going to come from from the 

768
00:39:56,300 --> 00:39:57,900
slot. 
Probably he can still play the 

769
00:39:57,900 --> 00:40:00,100
perimeter but he's that 
technician in the middle of the 

770
00:40:00,107 --> 00:40:02,400
field I just think he's like a 
Keenan Allen plus. 

771
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,400
I mean I mean key now and was a 
great Prospect to but he didn't 

772
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,300
test the same way. 
You know I had that injury and 

773
00:40:07,300 --> 00:40:11,400
stuff coming out but I think jsn
you know has even more upset 

774
00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,200
than that but I think that's 
sort of like the way that he's 

775
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,600
going to accumulate points Cup, 
right? 

776
00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:18,500
Like cup was course not only for
a few years and then started 

777
00:40:18,500 --> 00:40:20,900
being like the 100% routes Guy. 
Yeah. 

778
00:40:21,400 --> 00:40:23,600
At some point in playing outside
into our receiver sets. 

779
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,000
Yep. 
And Jason was an even in a 

780
00:40:26,008 --> 00:40:28,900
different Stratosphere than cup 
as far as like the agility stuff

781
00:40:28,900 --> 00:40:30,900
too. 
Like, yeah, I mean, his profile 

782
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:33,600
is pretty sick. 
We can factor in the production 

783
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,600
and the agility stuff and then 
as 40 was fine to, it wasn't 

784
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,900
like that ended up being a 
knock. 

785
00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:41,400
It was basically neutral there. 
All right. 

786
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:44,100
Pat, you now, I feel like this 
is more of a 

787
00:40:44,107 --> 00:40:47,000
choose-your-own-adventure spot 
here. 

788
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,700
In this physical body. 
Thing is the Spy you don't. 

789
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:52,200
Be in this, you tried it. 
If you bang down, Gretchen's 

790
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,300
door to trade up then, or you 
try to trade down, I think, 

791
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,600
because I'm going to take will 
love us. 

792
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,900
That's what I would have taken. 
It's no fun at all. 

793
00:41:07,900 --> 00:41:10,400
But look guys, I drafted a lot 
of Daniel Jones. 

794
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:14,000
I drafted a lot of Jack Wilson. 
I drafted a lot of Justin 

795
00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,900
Herbert though. 
You know, this sometimes works 

796
00:41:15,900 --> 00:41:17,500
really well. 
It's sometimes the total 

797
00:41:17,500 --> 00:41:19,900
disaster and sometimes you get 
the angle ga Jones. 

798
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:22,700
Daniel Jones comps really 
closely to Levis for me. 

799
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,800
Live is has like a pretty big 
arm. 

800
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,000
I guess he doesn't really throw 
deep. 

801
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:35,100
He's he's like Pretty mobile, he
scrambled a little bit. 

802
00:41:36,100 --> 00:41:39,500
He takes sacks like horribly. 
He's even worse than Jones and 

803
00:41:39,500 --> 00:41:43,100
taking sacks. 
So I don't know why is, how is 

804
00:41:43,100 --> 00:41:48,400
the play Miss Lady? 
He's look man. 

805
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,200
He's like he's Daniel Joe. 
But Daniel Jones, you've started

806
00:41:51,200 --> 00:41:53,300
from four years. 
He signed it. 

807
00:41:53,300 --> 00:41:57,000
He they didn't pick up his fifth
year option, but then he plays 

808
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,200
well, just at the right time he 
gets a new deal. 

809
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:03,100
Now you can trade off them. 
Like Daniel Jones has been a 

810
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:06,600
home run pick and no one wanted 
him and No One's Gonna Want 

811
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,900
Levis. 
And I don't think being of Jones

812
00:42:08,900 --> 00:42:11,800
is very good and I don't think 
love is very good, but there's 

813
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,300
no one left. 
Daniel Jones went top 10. 

814
00:42:14,700 --> 00:42:16,900
There's a possibility of us. 
Doesn't even go in like the 

815
00:42:16,900 --> 00:42:19,500
first round like a wheel. 
So, okay, that's what I wanted 

816
00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:21,400
to ask. 
Ask you guys like how because 

817
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,300
we're now hearing Buzz that he 
could fall, like, pretty far. 

818
00:42:24,300 --> 00:42:25,900
And that would make this a 
terrible pick. 

819
00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:29,100
Where are you guys mind that? 
Yeah, but the difference though 

820
00:42:29,100 --> 00:42:31,800
that when you're picking him 
here as opposed to, you know, 

821
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,800
taking them like, second 
overall, is the opportunity 

822
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,000
cost, right? 
Like the the other wide 

823
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,700
receivers that we would be 
picking right here, I don't mind

824
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:42,900
them necessarily but it's not 
nearly on JS ends level, you 

825
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:44,900
know, you're not getting a 
junior Gibbs, type type running 

826
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:48,000
back prospects. 
So like to me I think it's the 

827
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,500
right kind of bet to make. 
You're probably going to feel 

828
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:53,200
better about it though. 
Post draft, if and when he does 

829
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,300
go, you know top 15 or something
that you gotta hope that some of

830
00:42:56,308 --> 00:42:59,200
these teams are you know as 
quarterback hungry and needy as 

831
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,400
they appear to be. 
If the Buccaneers pass on him he

832
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,200
is he's like the next Malik 
Willis or something. 

833
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:08,200
Like I don't understand how the 
fuck. 

834
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:09,600
How does he get past? 
The Buccaneers? 

835
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,400
That would be Insanity. 
Did you see his? 

836
00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:14,900
His back picks today though? 
Did you looks huge? 

837
00:43:15,300 --> 00:43:17,300
Yeah, he's looking. 
He's looking yo shoulder. 

838
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:19,500
And arm was popping like yeah. 
Or it wasn't. 

839
00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,300
That big, but he has really 
weird Empower their shoulders. 

840
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,700
What do I need to Google here? 
Will you gotta see? 

841
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,200
This guy looks, looks like a 
linebacker right now. 

842
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,900
I'm not even kidding, like who 
we talking about Malik was? 

843
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:43,000
All right, I'll pull this what 
we're talking about. 

844
00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:47,300
Yeah, look at that. 
We can't let me get this guy. 

845
00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:53,700
Its 7. 
Like I mean the the macro point 

846
00:43:53,700 --> 00:43:55,200
though about the this stuff is 
Right. 

847
00:43:55,200 --> 00:44:00,300
Pat like work collectively bad 
at, you know, projecting and 

848
00:44:00,300 --> 00:44:02,200
scouting. 
These quarterbacks people were 

849
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,500
famously wrong on Joshua. 
Allen people were light on 

850
00:44:05,500 --> 00:44:08,900
Justin Herbert coming in and 
that when you do hit on them 

851
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:13,700
they hit in such a big way that 
you have like a multi-decade 

852
00:44:13,700 --> 00:44:17,200
producer at a very important 
position and even if you don't 

853
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,900
like fully hit you like with. 
With the Daniel Jones scenario, 

854
00:44:20,900 --> 00:44:24,900
you often like kind of hit 
anyway, like I you know, leave 

855
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:27,600
where I took Tim Jones I traded 
off of them, I end up getting 

856
00:44:27,600 --> 00:44:30,700
back picks that turned into 
Justin Herbert and Trevor 

857
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:33,500
Lawrence. 
So like like even the hits 

858
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:36,900
aren't hit sometimes there's 
gonna be a lot of spots to get 

859
00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:39,700
off on that train to you know 
with like quarterbacks. 

860
00:44:39,700 --> 00:44:43,100
Like I said, they're dominating 
the first round of startups. 

861
00:44:43,500 --> 00:44:46,100
You can have will level is going
to be multiple points with will 

862
00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:47,900
let us, you know, maybe he 
starts a game, he looks like 

863
00:44:47,900 --> 00:44:50,400
half-decent and then like if you
can cash, Out for like the 

864
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,800
cloven of like a second or third
round start of value. 

865
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,600
So there would be like helium 
have to show a ton if you can 

866
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,700
just sort of get the benefit of 
the doubt from the market. 

867
00:45:00,100 --> 00:45:02,500
This is the show a ton. 
But he's showing a lot of 

868
00:45:02,500 --> 00:45:05,500
someone a lot here that look 
like this, that like implants, 

869
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:08,200
like, what's going on? 
Shout out to everybody watching 

870
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:10,100
this other big screen with their
family, right? 

871
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:18,700
All right. 
Pepper will love his grenade. 

872
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:21,600
All right. 
JJ you Or up with the eighth 

873
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,400
pick here. 
There were muscles there, that I

874
00:45:23,408 --> 00:45:29,000
didn't know existed in the humor
with this, with this pic. 

875
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,500
I'm gonna go. 
I'm gonna be somewhat of a homer

876
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:34,700
and go with Jordan. 
Addison, my alma mater of pit. 

877
00:45:34,700 --> 00:45:38,000
He then transferred to USC, but,
you know, got pit that ACC 

878
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:40,400
Championship with Kenny pickets,
a beautiful thing. 

879
00:45:41,300 --> 00:45:45,600
I think Addison's the safest 
option at wide receiver to in 

880
00:45:45,607 --> 00:45:48,400
this class over like a Quentin 
Johnston, you know, Johnston, 

881
00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:51,200
someone, you know, Get that big 
12 profile. 

882
00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:54,700
And, you know, I can see the 
upside and my, the top 

883
00:45:54,700 --> 00:45:58,200
comprehend, my models T Higgins.
So like he has that size speed 

884
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:01,800
sort of profile perimeter guy, 
and the physicality, I should 

885
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,100
say. 
But the the issue you know, with

886
00:46:05,100 --> 00:46:08,000
Johnson is that his production 
profile isn't as like Stellar as

887
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,500
what you're going to get from a 
Jordan Addison you know Addison 

888
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:13,100
comps a little bit more closely 
to like a Calvin Ridley. 

889
00:46:13,100 --> 00:46:16,400
Type it like a potentially Tyler
Lockett type just like the 

890
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,800
skinny wide wide out so I can 
play the perimeter play all over

891
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,300
the field. 
We had good college production, 

892
00:46:21,900 --> 00:46:25,500
so I think Addison's a pretty 
safe bet, you know, maybe he 

893
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:28,000
won't give you those consistent 
wide receiver, one seasons, and 

894
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,700
be an alpha, but I think he's 
gonna be a pretty consistent 

895
00:46:30,700 --> 00:46:35,400
wide receiver. 
Toe does JJ sound worried about.

896
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:38,000
Addison being a twig. 
JJ, does not sound to me like a 

897
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:41,400
man who's worried right now. 
No, I mean, look, we've gone 

898
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,300
through this before in the past 
wide receiver size, might have 

899
00:46:44,300 --> 00:46:48,400
mattered, you know, early 2010's
ish that that that range. 

900
00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:50,200
But I haven't found much. 
Ignore that. 

901
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,600
We saw with the Vontae Smith. 
If you have the production 

902
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:55,200
profile, if you have all of 
these things going in your 

903
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:59,000
favor, you can sort of knock 
away and forget about the the 

904
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:00,700
size aspect. 
I care about sighs. 

905
00:47:00,700 --> 00:47:05,300
I running back but wide receiver
not nearly as big of a deal to 

906
00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:07,700
to I will prove that Jimmy 
matters at some point. 

907
00:47:10,500 --> 00:47:12,700
You can't Jam anymore, the can't
get physical anymore. 

908
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:15,600
Offenses are more spread, I mean
it makes sense, it all fits 

909
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:17,800
logically. 
Yeah, the way I see it too if 

910
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,000
the if the NFL doesn't care and 
he goes As first round and they 

911
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,500
know, you know, he's 170 
whatever pounds and they just 

912
00:47:23,500 --> 00:47:26,100
spent a first-round pick on him 
then it's not really a problem 

913
00:47:26,100 --> 00:47:28,300
for me, you know, like if 
they're going to invest that 

914
00:47:28,300 --> 00:47:31,300
draft Capital, especially in the
first round, I'm willing to look

915
00:47:31,300 --> 00:47:36,500
past it as well. 
Tyler did donate a Super Chat 

916
00:47:36,500 --> 00:47:38,800
tonight. 
He was hoping that anytime 

917
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,600
someone referenced their own 
model, that we would strike a 

918
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,900
Zoolander. 
Espo's, I know our guide Duane 

919
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:47,500
McFarland over at fantasy, life 
has been striking a pose for 

920
00:47:47,500 --> 00:47:50,100
him. 
So, I mean, does the The panel 

921
00:47:50,100 --> 00:47:51,700
collectively. 
I mean, I'll do a lot of things 

922
00:47:51,700 --> 00:47:54,600
for 20 dollars in 69, cents you 
guys all want to give your your 

923
00:47:54,600 --> 00:48:02,700
blue steel look here Gretch. 
All right, fine, I'll do it. 

924
00:48:02,700 --> 00:48:07,900
This is for you Tyler. 
Is that what you wanted? 

925
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:10,300
Tyler, there's plenty more where
that came from for every 20 

926
00:48:10,300 --> 00:48:14,300
bucks you send over. 
All right, Jordan, Addison any 

927
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:17,900
other comments on Addison here, 
obviously, I feel like him 

928
00:48:17,900 --> 00:48:21,700
versus Quinton Johnson. 
Jason has been kind of the 

929
00:48:21,700 --> 00:48:25,700
debate and kind of your flavor 
of wide receiver that you prefer

930
00:48:25,700 --> 00:48:28,200
just because they are such 
different. 

931
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:32,100
Prospects, is anyone on team? 
Quinton Johnson over Addison. 

932
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:38,000
I am speak on that. 
Well, I really like Quinton, 

933
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,800
Johnston. 
He's, you know, it is kind of 

934
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,000
the flavor thing I do like the 
bigger wide receivers. 

935
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:46,100
I also don't love like, I know a
lot of people out there like 

936
00:48:46,500 --> 00:48:48,600
we've been burned on TC wide 
receivers with rhaegar. 

937
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,100
And you have what like, Josh 
Toxin and it gets pretty ugly. 

938
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,400
I don't really love the helmet. 
Scout thing that you also can 

939
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,600
look through the Big 12. 
I know we're getting pretty far 

940
00:48:56,600 --> 00:48:58,400
back here, but I Dez Bryant was 
a stud. 

941
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,600
Michael Crabtree was a stud you 
have City Landmark, he's brown. 

942
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:04,800
But I just like, when Johnson to
me, I know that there's like 

943
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,400
hand-catching issues or body 
caching issues, Don't really 

944
00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:09,900
watch film. 
So somebody wants to educate me 

945
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:11,800
on like his terrible body 
catching. 

946
00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:15,300
Like go ahead, like I guess that
I guess, and I get, you know, 

947
00:49:15,300 --> 00:49:18,500
his best season, 60 catches 1067
yards, six touchdowns like isn't

948
00:49:18,500 --> 00:49:22,600
great but the upside is really 
there man 12.9. 

949
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,400
A DOT with like eight point, 
nine nine yards after catch 

950
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:29,100
perception like he's, you know, 
above three yards per outrun 

951
00:49:29,100 --> 00:49:33,900
like he is a dynamic player at 
63 2008, which is really 

952
00:49:33,900 --> 00:49:36,400
exciting where he's catching the
ball downfield. 

953
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,300
He's putting a A ton after the 
catch on it as well. 

954
00:49:38,300 --> 00:49:41,100
So I'm really excited about it. 
I'll also say like with the raw 

955
00:49:41,100 --> 00:49:44,600
stats, he's not going to pop 
because this TCU offense like 

956
00:49:44,600 --> 00:49:46,100
Max Duggan until this year 
sucked. 

957
00:49:46,100 --> 00:49:50,400
Like the passing yards. 
Three years ago was 1963 passing

958
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:55,300
yards in the Big 12 at TCU than 
2875 before that. 

959
00:49:55,300 --> 00:49:56,800
So we didn't have a ton to work 
with. 

960
00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,900
He's popped in huge games like 
had 64 163 and a touchdown 

961
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:02,000
against number two ranked 
Michigan. 

962
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:05,000
So you're just sort of getting a
guy to me who I think can give 

963
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:07,600
you massive, massive Spike weeks
and hid in a Big way. 

964
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:10,600
So I'm very interested in 
Quinton Johnson especially you 

965
00:50:10,607 --> 00:50:13,300
know, he'll probably go first 
round just like Jordan Addison, 

966
00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:17,900
so that's exciting. 
Yeah, Ron you fell right into my

967
00:50:17,900 --> 00:50:20,300
trap of me selecting Quinton 
Johnson. 

968
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:30,500
Oh my God, not know, my job by 
yourself with the speak on top 

969
00:50:30,500 --> 00:50:32,700
of that. 
I made you deliver all the 

970
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:35,700
points that I definitely would 
have said no snow. 

971
00:50:52,700 --> 00:50:56,800
But in my model, there's three 
main production metrics, there's

972
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,800
receptions per game, best season
yards per team pass attempt, 

973
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:01,500
which gets the most weight and 
then touchdown share. 

974
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,100
And if you look at, you know, 
Quinton Johnson didn't hit it, 

975
00:51:05,100 --> 00:51:07,700
two and a half best season yard,
Team pass attempt. 

976
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:10,700
And he had a receptions per game
rate below four and a half of 

977
00:51:10,700 --> 00:51:13,100
the first round wide receivers 
to not get those hit those 

978
00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:16,400
thresholds since 2011, Kelvin 
Benjamin, Cordarrelle Patterson,

979
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,700
and Henry rugs. 
And then on top of that, if you 

980
00:51:19,700 --> 00:51:23,200
look at guys who had a - stat 
score was just a below-average, 

981
00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:26,300
you know, stats core production,
score within the model that when

982
00:51:26,300 --> 00:51:28,700
the first round. 
Those guys are good areas. 

983
00:51:28,700 --> 00:51:32,000
Tony Phillip Dorsett and Jalen 
waddle on top of the three that 

984
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,800
I just named. 
So the only dude, of that group 

985
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,900
was waddle, but waddle had a 
very unique Profile coming out, 

986
00:51:37,900 --> 00:51:39,900
obviously had a really good 
draft Capital, all that kind of 

987
00:51:39,908 --> 00:51:43,300
stuff. 
So there's there's like look, I 

988
00:51:43,300 --> 00:51:44,400
get it. 
Like T Higgins again. 

989
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:47,200
Like I said, top comp for him. 
But the downside is there like 

990
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:49,600
one of the comps form was 
Richard perriman and in the 

991
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,300
model. 
So, you know, I think that was 

992
00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:53,900
just too far JJ, you just 
figured 

993
00:52:04,100 --> 00:52:05,900
Blair. 
What's the what's big Roto 

994
00:52:05,900 --> 00:52:07,300
business Quinton Johnson, 
Intake. 

995
00:52:07,300 --> 00:52:10,600
Because back in the day back in 
the Dez, Bryant Demaryius, 

996
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:13,300
Thomas Julio, Jones days IV 
Quinton Johnson. 

997
00:52:13,300 --> 00:52:15,700
This was this is that, dude, 
that's true. 

998
00:52:15,700 --> 00:52:18,000
I think put wrote of his on this
jersey, man. 

999
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:22,200
Yeah, that's right. 
Yeah, Johnson definitely would 

1000
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,400
have been a big wide receiver 
hero. 

1001
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,000
I mean, the one thing that is 
kind of, that is a red flag that

1002
00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,800
we've been talking about for a 
long time. 

1003
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,600
I wrote a Biz is the lack of 
touchdown production that I 

1004
00:52:36,607 --> 00:52:38,600
think matters. 
I mean, Jay Jay mentioned it, 

1005
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:41,700
the touchdown share I think 
matters more than more than most

1006
00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:45,800
people realize. 
So that's at least one red flag 

1007
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,300
that I'm looking at that kind of
has me a little skeptical about 

1008
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:53,900
Johnson But he really does have 
a really wide range of outcomes.

1009
00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:57,300
I think because he did not do 
well on contested catches. 

1010
00:52:57,300 --> 00:52:59,900
He has this great leaping 
ability, his contested catch 

1011
00:52:59,900 --> 00:53:03,700
rate on deep balls was terrible.
He also had a lot of contested 

1012
00:53:03,700 --> 00:53:06,800
deep targets so it's like, 
Kenny, even get separation and 

1013
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,100
he's not good at Contessa cat 
and he's not getting any 

1014
00:53:09,100 --> 00:53:10,900
touchdown. 
So this is like, he's like a 

1015
00:53:10,908 --> 00:53:15,400
50/50 ball guy who loses, that 
sounds like a lot of fun, but 

1016
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,200
then, but then he also does have
that yards after catch profile, 

1017
00:53:19,500 --> 00:53:22,700
which is kind of Yuki. 
It's like he gets he gets his 

1018
00:53:22,700 --> 00:53:24,700
Yak deep. 
He's not a, he's not a guy. 

1019
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:27,400
You throw it to underneath and 
has to like, make guys missing 

1020
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,400
stuff. 
He's actually a downfield 

1021
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:31,300
receiver, who's then adding 
after the catch, which is a 

1022
00:53:31,308 --> 00:53:34,900
pretty high up side profile. 
So it's like if he's good will 

1023
00:53:34,900 --> 00:53:39,200
be really good and it's problem 
that he might be terrible. 

1024
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,500
Just gonna say, you walk into my
phone come in your write-up 

1025
00:53:42,500 --> 00:53:44,400
form. 
JJ, was that there was a couple 

1026
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,000
that those the the misses you 
mentioned were all the first 

1027
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:48,900
round draft Kappa, guys. 
Theres a couple second round 

1028
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:52,300
guys that were like. 
Positive yeah, yeah, yeah, t 

1029
00:53:52,300 --> 00:53:54,300
Higgins. 
DK Metcalf like those kinds of 

1030
00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:57,700
guys had similar issues type 
profiles so like, you know, you 

1031
00:53:57,700 --> 00:54:00,100
don't want to just like create 
arbitrary thresholds just to 

1032
00:54:00,100 --> 00:54:02,300
create them and I think it's 
important, you know, I like to 

1033
00:54:02,300 --> 00:54:04,000
approach things with more 
nuanced than that. 

1034
00:54:04,000 --> 00:54:07,400
So yeah, I think it just plays 
in the fact that this dude has a

1035
00:54:07,408 --> 00:54:09,800
ceiling. 
It's there, we've seen guys that

1036
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,700
have done this in the past but 
he could also be prashad 

1037
00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:16,000
perriman, which we obviously 
don't want the free stuff that 

1038
00:54:16,100 --> 00:54:18,300
the wide receiver to wide 
receiver, three feel like they 

1039
00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:22,100
have a lot more risk this year. 
And the last few classes, 

1040
00:54:22,100 --> 00:54:23,100
obviously. 
Yeah. 

1041
00:54:25,100 --> 00:54:27,800
Again the comment saying he just
needs the Patriots to draft quit

1042
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:29,200
Johnson. 
So, I know he's bad. 

1043
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:34,100
That would be nice confirmation.
They're all right, Ron I rubbed.

1044
00:54:34,100 --> 00:54:38,100
You so hard on your pick, 
classic rookie mistake on here. 

1045
00:54:38,100 --> 00:54:43,200
So, big tear Gap after Quinn, 
Judd said to, so it's insane. 

1046
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,000
This guy just seems like, maybe 
I'll take questions on speak on 

1047
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:47,000
that. 
What is anybody in here? 

1048
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:53,500
Got a So it's a bummer. 
I had to take this guy because 

1049
00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:56,500
I'm not even a big Zach Starvin 
a fan. 

1050
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,200
I know some guys will Cape up 
for Zach charbonnet. 

1051
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:01,800
I'll take Zach charbonnet. 
I think that this was a point 

1052
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:06,500
that like Greta was making a 
little bit with the whole, like,

1053
00:55:06,500 --> 00:55:09,700
should be Jean go 101 or 
actually, I think it was j.j. 

1054
00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:12,400
making this point but running 
backs, like almost don't have to

1055
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,900
do a ton to gain value in 
Dynasty, like we sort of see 

1056
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:19,800
them with rose-colored glasses, 
I go there like 21:22 like they 

1057
00:55:19,800 --> 00:55:23,200
had One 20-point game and like 
week 8 of the rookie year. 

1058
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,800
Like let's make them, you know, 
a second-round startup act like 

1059
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,100
they were years out there. 
If you remember like, Darius 

1060
00:55:28,100 --> 00:55:30,200
Geist was a 2 3, turn guy carry 
on. 

1061
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:32,200
Johnson was a 2 3 turn guy in 
startups. 

1062
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,900
Like you can go down the list. 
I can't make her side what? 

1063
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:39,900
Like a couple of like 20 plus 
carry games and he was like a I 

1064
00:55:39,908 --> 00:55:42,800
think like a 23 round turn guide
to Miles Sanders. 

1065
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,700
So I don't love Zach charbonnet 
but I think he does have to show

1066
00:55:46,700 --> 00:55:49,600
a ton and he can really give you
a ton of return on and 

1067
00:55:50,300 --> 00:55:52,700
investment from where you buy 
him at where you probably get 

1068
00:55:52,700 --> 00:55:54,000
him. 
What 110 is probably somewhere 

1069
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:55,700
like a seventh or eighth in a 
start-up. 

1070
00:55:55,700 --> 00:55:59,100
Like he could pretty easily be 
like a 345 round guy next year. 

1071
00:55:59,100 --> 00:56:01,100
If he just like with Kenneth 
Walker we just saw. 

1072
00:56:01,100 --> 00:56:04,000
It doesn't have to do Pico 
second round the NFL draft. 

1073
00:56:04,100 --> 00:56:07,500
He only has to do so much to you
know, give you a prophet. 

1074
00:56:09,700 --> 00:56:12,600
I felt like I might become 
somebody who's gonna keep for 

1075
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:18,000
this dude when I was doing my 
initial research just today but 

1076
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:22,700
JJ was talking about some of the
guys in his stuff that comp to 

1077
00:56:22,700 --> 00:56:23,900
him. 
There's a lot of really good 

1078
00:56:23,900 --> 00:56:27,100
names but the Miss was Charles 
Sims and that's when I knew I 

1079
00:56:27,107 --> 00:56:34,300
was in love Charles you got a 
big dude to catch his passes and

1080
00:56:34,300 --> 00:56:36,600
put up numbers, I watch some 
film on him today and I was 

1081
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:38,300
like, yeah I mean he doesn't 
look explosive. 

1082
00:56:38,300 --> 00:56:41,700
But if that's the big knock, On 
him like he's smooth. 

1083
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:43,100
He gets to space. 
Like that. 

1084
00:56:43,100 --> 00:56:44,500
Yeah. 
And Chip, Kelly's offense 

1085
00:56:44,500 --> 00:56:46,900
creates holes, but then like, 
when he gets he runs to 

1086
00:56:46,900 --> 00:56:50,300
Daylight, he runs to yardage. 
It's like Alvin Kamara. 

1087
00:56:50,300 --> 00:56:53,100
And the open field doesn't look 
super explosive. 

1088
00:56:53,200 --> 00:56:55,300
It reminds me a little bit of 
like going all about to Arian 

1089
00:56:55,300 --> 00:56:57,200
Foster. 
Like there are guys like this. 

1090
00:56:57,300 --> 00:56:59,400
Now he's not quite as big as 
their in fostering. 

1091
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,500
He's to 14 and Foster was more 
like to 24. 

1092
00:57:01,500 --> 00:57:04,400
I was kind of looking at some of
the ways he's the same weight as

1093
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,900
Chimera similar athleticism but 
smaller than you know, Arian 

1094
00:57:08,900 --> 00:57:11,300
Foster. 
Stir and I can't remember the 

1095
00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:12,400
third one. 
I was thinking of that kind of 

1096
00:57:12,408 --> 00:57:15,700
fit this sort of more smooth 
than explosive, but still really

1097
00:57:15,700 --> 00:57:20,700
good for Fantasy mold, but maybe
was like that wasn't Melvin 

1098
00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:22,200
Gordon. 
But anyway, dream hunt comes to 

1099
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:24,200
mind. 
I wasn't the guy but that is a 

1100
00:57:24,207 --> 00:57:27,100
good one. 
But yeah, I mean it's like it's 

1101
00:57:27,100 --> 00:57:32,500
a list of producers. 
And I'm not saying he's going to

1102
00:57:32,508 --> 00:57:34,600
be that good or that type of a 
superstar. 

1103
00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:37,900
But if Camaro was a 1/2 turn guy
because he didn't have this 

1104
00:57:37,900 --> 00:57:40,100
great profile, he didn't have 
the Great A surly Elite 

1105
00:57:40,100 --> 00:57:42,800
athleticism if you're going to 
find somebody like that in this 

1106
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,500
class, it seems like this is 
like a good guy to bet on for 

1107
00:57:45,500 --> 00:57:49,200
that type of stuff yet. 
Blair your model loves, I'm sure

1108
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:54,600
it loves him because it loves 
the receiving like market share 

1109
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:58,500
and right. 
Is this he fit your you have 

1110
00:57:58,500 --> 00:58:01,900
like two main cut-offs right? 
That you love for your best 

1111
00:58:01,900 --> 00:58:03,500
friend back? 
Yeah. 

1112
00:58:03,500 --> 00:58:07,200
I mean we love to see a 10% 
market share of receiving yards 

1113
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:11,600
which he got, he's up at Of 
percent and then you know, 100 

1114
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,300
yards per game hundred rushing 
yards per game is a nice cut 

1115
00:58:15,300 --> 00:58:18,200
off, that's kind of easy to 
meet, but the number of backs 

1116
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:22,700
that meet both thresholds or not
the number, but the back step 

1117
00:58:22,700 --> 00:58:26,200
meet both thresholds. 
Often are pretty successful. 

1118
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,500
So, that's its that, you know, 
Benjamin probably. 

1119
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,100
Okay, yeah. 
So he knows, you knows the 

1120
00:58:31,100 --> 00:58:33,900
exception of people. 
This is why we love, you know, 

1121
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:35,600
right? 
I mean, it's similar to, you 

1122
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:37,500
know, but it could have some 
draft Capital here, which can 

1123
00:58:37,500 --> 00:58:40,400
be, you know, doesn't say if, 
you know, it was Quieter man. 

1124
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:46,100
I think we wouldn't be saying 
it's about to go off, you know, 

1125
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:50,000
I mean, that's 12. 
I mean we look at the moment 

1126
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,800
mrs. 
Like I love him too. 

1127
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:58,800
Outside of Bijan, shardenei has 
the best chance to be like a 

1128
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,300
true Bell cow, right of the 
running backs on his class. 

1129
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,400
Yeah, I mean, if you look at 
guys and I talked about this, my

1130
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:07,900
Prospect guy, but if you look at
guys who are Drafting and run, 

1131
00:59:07,900 --> 00:59:10,200
this is what Ben was just 
referencing. 

1132
00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:13,200
But if you look at guys who were
drafted around to in round three

1133
00:59:13,700 --> 00:59:17,600
since 2011 that were 210 plus 
pounds, he's well over 210 and 

1134
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:19,600
had its 12th best season 
reception. 

1135
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,100
Chair above 12% yet. 
Le'Veon Bell. 

1136
00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:25,400
Joe Mixon. 
Daniel Thomas obviously an elder

1137
00:59:25,500 --> 00:59:27,400
DeAndre Swift. 
Those are the second rounders. 

1138
00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:30,500
The third rounders are Kareem 
hunt Alvin Kamara, David 

1139
00:59:30,500 --> 00:59:33,700
Johnson, Charles Simms, DeMarco 
Murray, Zach mosque, ishaan, Von

1140
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:36,600
Antonio, Gibson, Rashad white. 
I mean, it's just like good 

1141
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:38,400
running back. 
I mean, all things considered 

1142
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,700
like, third round. 
Do not hit a very high rate at 

1143
00:59:40,700 --> 00:59:42,300
all. 
And those are the kinds of 

1144
00:59:42,300 --> 00:59:44,200
running backs you're looking at,
whenever you just look at those 

1145
00:59:44,200 --> 00:59:48,600
two parameters for charbonnet. 
So, I think he's a very, very 

1146
00:59:48,600 --> 00:59:51,100
solid Prospect. 
David Johnson, was the other 

1147
00:59:51,100 --> 00:59:54,000
one, I was trying to think of it
as a little bit bigger than him,

1148
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,400
but runs a little bit more like 
smooth and like super explosive.

1149
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,900
I kind of felt like I was 
watching that a little like that

1150
01:00:00,900 --> 01:00:04,000
type of Runner Foster. 
David Johnson, that molt I've 

1151
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:08,400
become, I become a sucker for 
the 210 plus pounds backs who 

1152
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,000
have receiving files. 
Like if you can just find guys 

1153
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:13,800
like that, like that's what 
partially got me on like Isaiah 

1154
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:15,600
checo. 
Last year was that? 

1155
01:00:15,700 --> 01:00:18,300
He didn't his receiving profile 
wasn't amazing but he had decent

1156
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:22,100
decent enough reception share in
that horrific Wreckers offense. 

1157
01:00:22,300 --> 01:00:25,800
And if you can find guys like 
that, they generally have decent

1158
01:00:25,800 --> 01:00:28,700
hit rates. 
All right. 

1159
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:34,400
Blair you are up for the 111 
here and I'm quickly. 

1160
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,700
Realizing this class doesn't 
seem that great. 

1161
01:00:37,700 --> 01:00:41,900
Like, my name is the 111 or 112 
at a dynasty in this is wiz 

1162
01:00:41,900 --> 01:00:46,200
superflex tied in premium, but 
can you sell me on 111 being an 

1163
01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,200
exciting selection here? 
Oh, I can't, I think there's an 

1164
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,200
easy pick here. 
Let's go. 

1165
01:00:51,500 --> 01:00:55,900
Jalen Hyatt. 
Okay, I think you could make a 

1166
01:00:55,900 --> 01:00:57,600
case for him as the wide 
receiver. 

1167
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,700
You in this class. 
Okay, here we go. 

1168
01:01:00,900 --> 01:01:06,500
I mean talking about yards per 
team attempt, he's one of only 

1169
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:11,400
want to say nine guys, this 
year, who had more than three is

1170
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:17,800
fourth overall, in yards per 
route, run this season. 

1171
01:01:17,900 --> 01:01:21,100
I think he led the league or I 
love the country in yards per 

1172
01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:23,000
Target. 
He also scored touchdowns at a 

1173
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:27,500
high rate. 
He's, you know, for for Speed, 

1174
01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:31,500
he's He's kind of I mean he's 
the same size as Addison but ran

1175
01:01:31,500 --> 01:01:33,400
faster, although Addison maybe 
was hurt. 

1176
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:38,100
So, yeah, I think there's a lot 
to like, about high. 

1177
01:01:38,100 --> 01:01:43,900
It true, early declare 21 years 
old All right, I know there's 

1178
01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:49,100
some high it Bears on the panel.
What's the the anti Hyatt case? 

1179
01:01:49,100 --> 01:01:51,500
I've seen people posting screen 
grabs of him on Twitter being 

1180
01:01:51,500 --> 01:01:53,900
like the DBS didn't cover him in
college. 

1181
01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:56,400
He was just like running loose 
for touchdowns. 

1182
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,600
I mean what's your criticism on 
Hyatt? 

1183
01:01:58,700 --> 01:02:02,100
It's that he ran like 
exclusively out of the slot but 

1184
01:02:02,100 --> 01:02:05,700
he's like a undersized deep 
threat and he's probably gonna 

1185
01:02:05,700 --> 01:02:08,600
have to play on the outside in 
the NFL. 

1186
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,000
And that's not what he did in 
college and we only have the one

1187
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:14,000
season. 
He He didn't really do anything 

1188
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:17,200
until last year. 
He's a one-hit wonder and he did

1189
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,400
it. 
As a deep threat of a slot. 

1190
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:22,500
He's undersized. 
He is fast 4440, but he doesn't 

1191
01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:25,900
have a light speed so I'm 
concerned like that. 

1192
01:02:26,100 --> 01:02:30,500
I don't think he has like this 
incredible like physical Elite 

1193
01:02:30,500 --> 01:02:35,700
athleticism to be able to 
overcome what I am assuming is 

1194
01:02:35,700 --> 01:02:39,100
going to be like a pretty raw 
route running skill set to be on

1195
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:42,800
the outside, given that he just 
like never did that in college. 

1196
01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:45,800
College, you never produced that
way in college, so that's that's

1197
01:02:45,800 --> 01:02:48,600
my concern. 
Also, he did produce a ton of 

1198
01:02:48,600 --> 01:02:50,900
his route, a ton of his yards on
go routes. 

1199
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:52,900
So it's not just where he was 
lining up with the routes. 

1200
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:56,700
It was coming on Johnston. 
Quinton Johnson also was, it was

1201
01:02:56,700 --> 01:02:59,400
a big, go route guy, but at 
least he was out on the outside 

1202
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,700
and he's big and he jumps high. 
So I've just, I just like 

1203
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,800
concerned that he can actually 
do what he's going to be asked 

1204
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:10,000
to do as a pro. 
But like, in some ways I like 

1205
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,700
that, he's falling a little bit 
in terms of his projected. 

1206
01:03:12,900 --> 01:03:14,800
Laughs Capital. 
Because if he were to land with 

1207
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,300
like the bills, or if you were 
to land with the Chiefs and 

1208
01:03:17,300 --> 01:03:19,900
they're like, yeah we're we 
know, he's not like a prototype,

1209
01:03:19,900 --> 01:03:21,500
go outside. 
Got, we're going to be creative 

1210
01:03:21,500 --> 01:03:23,600
or we're going to run them out 
of the slot some and like four 

1211
01:03:23,600 --> 01:03:27,400
wide receiver sets. 
I'm back in good, you know, 

1212
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:29,100
because he was really productive
in that role. 

1213
01:03:31,000 --> 01:03:35,100
The chat also mentioning Cedric 
Tillman, who he played with his 

1214
01:03:35,100 --> 01:03:37,900
that, you know, people saying 
Tillman out produced him? 

1215
01:03:38,100 --> 01:03:41,500
Is that actually a feather in 
his cap that he was playing 

1216
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:44,500
alongside a really solid 
producer. 

1217
01:03:46,700 --> 01:03:49,900
Well, think the case was that he
played well without Tillman, and

1218
01:03:49,900 --> 01:03:52,800
when Tillman was active, he 
didn't play as well. 

1219
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,900
So I think it's probably a knock
on him, not one that I really 

1220
01:03:55,900 --> 01:04:02,000
factored in, but I've heard it 
Yeah, until it's not a great 

1221
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,400
Prospect. 
He's like a borderline day to 

1222
01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:09,000
guy fifth-year senior so it's 
not ideal. 

1223
01:04:09,700 --> 01:04:11,100
Yeah. 
JJ. 

1224
01:04:11,100 --> 01:04:14,700
What's your Hyatt take? 
Um you know my model like some 

1225
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:18,500
probably more than I do mostly 
because it takes best season 

1226
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:20,900
numbers. 
One of his Comics was Jameson, 

1227
01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:24,500
Williams mostly because you 
know, the first two years didn't

1228
01:04:24,500 --> 01:04:27,800
really do anything and then this
30 or he blows up, he declares 

1229
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:29,100
early. 
He's Man out, he's gonna be a 

1230
01:04:29,107 --> 01:04:32,400
first-round pick, but I think 
he's more of like a diet Jameson

1231
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:35,600
Williams Because Williams, at 
least has a better excuse, as to

1232
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,900
why he didn't produce those 
first two years because he was 

1233
01:04:37,900 --> 01:04:41,900
at Ohio, State playing behind 
three absolute studs at wide 

1234
01:04:41,900 --> 01:04:43,900
receiver. 
Whereas, I don't think you just 

1235
01:04:43,900 --> 01:04:46,100
have nearly the case for a guy 
like high it. 

1236
01:04:46,100 --> 01:04:49,400
But, you know, in this within 
the, the this wide receiver 

1237
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,100
class. 
I think that taking height here,

1238
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:55,200
amongst the other wide receivers
is fair, because there's there's

1239
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,700
Flags to a lot of the other 
wideouts that are going in this 

1240
01:04:57,700 --> 01:04:59,700
range. 
Yep. 

1241
01:05:00,300 --> 01:05:05,400
All right, Gretch, the 112 here 
is this as easy of a selection 

1242
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,800
as jsn was? 
No. 

1243
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:11,700
I think there's two receivers 
that it would be one or the 

1244
01:05:11,700 --> 01:05:16,400
other for me. 
I think at this point, And 

1245
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,500
because you mentioned, there's 
no repercussions whatever I'm 

1246
01:05:19,500 --> 01:05:22,200
just going to take Josh Downs. 
I think they flowers is probably

1247
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:26,900
the right pick but he's like 
small and old and I don't know. 

1248
01:05:26,900 --> 01:05:31,200
I'm a sucker for the slot guys. 
Like Josh don't like Downs is 

1249
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,300
also small but and doesn't look 
like he'll get his go to draft 

1250
01:05:35,300 --> 01:05:37,200
Capital. 
Exactly. 

1251
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,000
Not as small and old as the 
other guy that's exactly right 

1252
01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:43,000
and more suited like he's 
really, really good out of the 

1253
01:05:43,000 --> 01:05:45,100
slot and that's been the knock 
on him. 

1254
01:05:45,500 --> 01:05:47,500
Is that He's only a slot 
receiver. 

1255
01:05:47,500 --> 01:05:50,700
But like, all right. 
I mean like, if you going to be 

1256
01:05:50,700 --> 01:05:54,300
a really small receiver and be 
productive at the next level you

1257
01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:57,400
number one, he's he is an early 
declare I think, right? 

1258
01:05:57,400 --> 01:06:00,200
And Oz. 
Yeah, yes. 

1259
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:03,500
And and and flowers is not, you 
should be able to earn targets 

1260
01:06:03,500 --> 01:06:07,000
at a really high rate. 
And he always did it, start run 

1261
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:10,800
really strong so our flowers for
the record there. 

1262
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,500
I mean they're pretty similar 
but I just kind of feel like 

1263
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:15,800
flowers and needs to be able to 
do it outside a little bit JJ. 

1264
01:06:15,900 --> 01:06:21,200
A point in your prospect guide 
in also, on the pot, with Pat, 

1265
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,300
that flowers only played in the 
slot, like 33 percent or 

1266
01:06:24,300 --> 01:06:25,600
something. 
He's one of these smaller guys 

1267
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:29,100
that does play outside a little 
but I just don't get the vibe 

1268
01:06:29,100 --> 01:06:31,400
that like, he's going to be good
enough to play on the outside at

1269
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,000
the NFL level down is going to 
be asked to do that. 

1270
01:06:34,000 --> 01:06:37,400
I mean, I guess if you know 112 
and a class where I do think it 

1271
01:06:37,400 --> 01:06:42,000
starts to thin out here, I like 
the high floor option, I think 

1272
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:45,100
he's going to be a productive 
NFL player as someone slot 

1273
01:06:45,100 --> 01:06:46,100
receiver. 
Lee. 

1274
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:48,100
I mean, somebody's taking him, 
that's in a little bit of a 

1275
01:06:48,100 --> 01:06:50,500
spread offense, but maybe get 
like some Hunter run from type 

1276
01:06:50,500 --> 01:06:51,700
Seasons. 
Out of it, you know? 

1277
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,700
Yeah, it's top calm. 
And in the model, I'm doing 

1278
01:06:55,700 --> 01:06:57,700
that, just to get Pete to 
continue to pose. 

1279
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,500
There we go. 
I needed that do the next one 

1280
01:07:00,500 --> 01:07:01,900
Pete. 
If you don't got any Turkish. 

1281
01:07:01,900 --> 01:07:05,500
Yeah, but he's like, he's like a
spitting image of Elijah more. 

1282
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,400
I mean, he's like the exact same
kind of prospect. 

1283
01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:10,800
That more was. 
The crazy thing about more was 

1284
01:07:10,800 --> 01:07:13,300
that, you know, you're one as a 
rookie, you know, he played on 

1285
01:07:13,300 --> 01:07:15,000
the perimeter a lot more than we
expected. 

1286
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,300
He was the only player In the 
slot. 

1287
01:07:16,300 --> 01:07:17,900
Like it like twenty eight 
percent of the time or something

1288
01:07:17,900 --> 01:07:22,100
like that, I don't know if we 
see that out of downs, you know.

1289
01:07:22,100 --> 01:07:25,900
I don't think he's as good of a 
prospect as Elijah more was, but

1290
01:07:25,900 --> 01:07:28,100
he does have a very, very 
similar profile. 

1291
01:07:28,100 --> 01:07:30,700
You know, he's got like that 
sort of like a wandel Robinson 

1292
01:07:30,700 --> 01:07:33,800
from last year to, you know, 
where he can, he can play the 

1293
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,700
slot and hopefully find a team 
that just targets that area of 

1294
01:07:36,707 --> 01:07:40,300
the field at a really high rate.
Gretch. 

1295
01:07:40,300 --> 01:07:44,100
I think I could if we want to do
you can have both of them. 

1296
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:47,800
I think we could do like a 
rapid-fire second round here and

1297
01:07:47,800 --> 01:07:50,600
you can you can double tap your 
two small old guys. 

1298
01:07:50,600 --> 01:07:52,000
Are we snake? 
Drop the minute? 

1299
01:07:52,300 --> 01:07:53,900
I think we can stake draft it 
back. 

1300
01:07:55,300 --> 01:07:58,600
All right, you can take I mean I
don't really want you to take 

1301
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:03,300
another small old have a little 
then, take a tight end. 

1302
01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:04,700
You can do whatever you want 
man. 

1303
01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:14,600
I will take I'll take the 
flowers. 

1304
01:08:17,899 --> 01:08:20,300
I don't have any good. 
I want to go with the most 

1305
01:08:20,300 --> 01:08:23,899
expired on you, dude. 
Yeah I just I just Auto draft 

1306
01:08:24,300 --> 01:08:27,700
flowers. 
Does anyone have any other 

1307
01:08:27,700 --> 01:08:32,100
thoughts on Hans a All right, 
one thing I like about say is 

1308
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:37,399
that he was getting more of his 
yards downfield than Josh downs,

1309
01:08:37,899 --> 01:08:40,399
and that's another reason. 
In addition to him playing 

1310
01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:46,899
outside more, I like him more 
than Downs, my model Likes down 

1311
01:08:46,899 --> 01:08:53,100
Smore. 
My my gut, my intuition, like 

1312
01:08:53,100 --> 01:08:56,800
say flowers more, just because I
think they, his archetypes of 

1313
01:08:56,808 --> 01:09:00,000
bit better, he's going to be 
like an outside guy when he's to

1314
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:03,300
be, he's basically kind of like 
that discount jsn type thing 

1315
01:09:03,300 --> 01:09:06,100
where he's going to play on the 
outside enough, like Tyler 

1316
01:09:06,100 --> 01:09:07,800
Lockett e or something play on 
the outside a lot. 

1317
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:11,000
Probably playing the slot some 
but he showed inability to wind 

1318
01:09:11,000 --> 01:09:13,200
down field and not just in the 
intermediate area. 

1319
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,700
But he actually won deep down 
field as well in college and 

1320
01:09:15,700 --> 01:09:17,600
downs was like much more of kind
of guy. 

1321
01:09:17,700 --> 01:09:21,200
Gadgety in terms of his usage. 
So that and that actually really

1322
01:09:21,200 --> 01:09:22,899
does concern me because it caps 
the ceiling. 

1323
01:09:22,899 --> 01:09:25,200
If he's going to be an 
underneath slot receiver. 

1324
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:28,300
So the bus huh? 
By the way, the I want even if I

1325
01:09:28,308 --> 01:09:31,300
was the one thing that I don't 
think that has been that I 

1326
01:09:31,308 --> 01:09:32,899
brought up or talk to anyone 
about. 

1327
01:09:32,899 --> 01:09:37,100
I'm curious to hear thoughts but
Downs has numbers two years ago 

1328
01:09:37,100 --> 01:09:39,600
were better than what he saw 
last year after he lost him how 

1329
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:41,600
right like that. 
That's that's the thing. 

1330
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:44,000
Like is that a thing that people
have been talking about it all 

1331
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,100
or like concerned about it all? 
Because it just seems like that 

1332
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:50,700
could be An issue, like, you 
know, yards per outrun as a 

1333
01:09:50,700 --> 01:09:54,100
metric for instance, or even 
yards per team pass attempt. 

1334
01:09:54,100 --> 01:09:57,500
It can still be influenced to 
some degree by quarterback play.

1335
01:09:57,500 --> 01:10:00,200
Like, it's not completely 
agnostic to what's going on 

1336
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:02,400
around them. 
And so I do think that there's 

1337
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:05,200
some concern that like, he looks
so good. 

1338
01:10:05,300 --> 01:10:08,800
Analytically, you know, is this 
best season 3, .5 2 yards per 

1339
01:10:08,800 --> 01:10:11,900
team pass attempt rate. 
But that was also in a season 

1340
01:10:11,900 --> 01:10:14,000
where he had way way better 
quarterback plays. 

1341
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,500
So that's at least something to 
think about, because it did drop

1342
01:10:16,500 --> 01:10:18,900
a good bit this past year. 
Well, the issue is the 

1343
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:20,500
quarterback. 
He has now is actually really 

1344
01:10:20,500 --> 01:10:22,000
good to drink. 
Yeah. 

1345
01:10:22,100 --> 01:10:26,000
Yeah, brother of Luke my anybody
out there, March Madness fans. 

1346
01:10:26,400 --> 01:10:30,600
Yeah, but he's, yeah, it's a 
pretty cool connect like I'm a 

1347
01:10:30,608 --> 01:10:33,000
sucker for those. 
I don't know why some might, 

1348
01:10:33,000 --> 01:10:39,100
they're from my area actually 
very 10, 15 years older than and

1349
01:10:39,100 --> 01:10:42,900
then probably, like, I would say
five to ten but yes, I don't 

1350
01:10:42,900 --> 01:10:46,100
make it this incredible historic
shot and then went to like an 8 

1351
01:10:46,100 --> 01:10:47,600
a.m. class than that. 
Yeah. 

1352
01:10:47,900 --> 01:10:49,700
Hero. 
The great. 

1353
01:10:50,700 --> 01:10:53,600
Yeah, I think you could say like
he's had good quarterback, play 

1354
01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:55,500
the entire time, right? 
So he hasn't had like the max 

1355
01:10:55,500 --> 01:10:58,200
Duggan Sub 2000 passing yards 
season. 

1356
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,500
Like he hasn't really, I mean 
like it's hard to use it as a 

1357
01:11:00,508 --> 01:11:02,700
knock against them in terms of 
like hasn't hit adversity. 

1358
01:11:02,700 --> 01:11:06,500
But there's definitely some, 
there's definitely some benefits

1359
01:11:06,500 --> 01:11:09,700
to that I guess, I guess I guess
I should say like like with a 

1360
01:11:09,700 --> 01:11:12,000
quarterback change. 
When you see such drastic 

1361
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,100
differences, there could be 
Tendencies from that quarterback

1362
01:11:15,100 --> 01:11:16,700
that led to some of those 
numbers. 

1363
01:11:16,700 --> 01:11:19,300
And that's that's where R, like 
maybe a slight red flag. 

1364
01:11:19,300 --> 01:11:22,300
Would come into play for Downs. 
I was thinking of Shan Mei. 

1365
01:11:22,600 --> 01:11:30,500
You guys remember, Sean? 
All right. 

1366
01:11:31,300 --> 01:11:34,700
Blair, you're back on the clock 
here with the 22. 

1367
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:38,900
Hmm. 
Okay, guess we'll go, Marvin 

1368
01:11:38,900 --> 01:11:41,700
Mims here. 
Yeah, I like it. 

1369
01:11:41,700 --> 01:11:45,500
This is, I think my most drafted
guy in the Big Board contest, 

1370
01:11:45,500 --> 01:11:49,600
select him at the end of Base. 
Every draft, tell me why I was 

1371
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:54,900
right. 
Yeah, he's a productive player 

1372
01:11:54,900 --> 01:11:58,900
out of Oklahoma for 3840. 
He's a little bit bigger than 

1373
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:04,700
Hyatt and Addison. 
So like to see that not that 

1374
01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:08,600
much bigger. 
But yeah, he's only, I don't 

1375
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:14,900
think he's only 20 still true 
early to Claire so he's got the 

1376
01:12:14,900 --> 01:12:17,200
age, he's got the speed, he's 
got the production. 

1377
01:12:19,100 --> 01:12:22,900
Is he getting a draft Capital? 
Yeah, I have seen him slipping a

1378
01:12:22,907 --> 01:12:24,400
little. 
I think he'll still be in the 

1379
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:28,200
third round. 
But That's the only reason I 

1380
01:12:28,208 --> 01:12:30,600
would take like flowers over 
because Mom seems to have a way 

1381
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,700
cooler profile. 
Yeah, right? 

1382
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:36,100
Yeah. 
First round flowers verse 

1383
01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:41,900
fourth, round. 
Mims could be there all over 

1384
01:12:41,900 --> 01:12:45,200
again. 
Yeah, she's all right. 

1385
01:12:45,200 --> 01:12:49,300
Ron, your back up here. 
Whoops for. 

1386
01:12:49,300 --> 01:12:51,200
Hang on Pete. 
Let's double-check that you're 

1387
01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:52,800
not up over on is up. 
Okay. 

1388
01:12:53,300 --> 01:12:56,000
Yeah. 
Rod. 

1389
01:12:56,300 --> 01:13:02,900
You want I need to speak on who 
you doing here. 

1390
01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:07,400
Um, so we're taking pretty we're
taking pretty big leaps of Faith

1391
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:10,200
here as creators on this 
platform just cause we don't 

1392
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,500
have draft Capital so you know I
we could look like an idiot. 

1393
01:13:13,500 --> 01:13:16,200
The Anthony Richardson pick if 
he goes like second round 

1394
01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,700
someone that I'm willing to be 
very wrong with like this could 

1395
01:13:18,700 --> 01:13:22,100
be dramatic Jefferson all over 
again but I'll take Sean Tucker 

1396
01:13:22,100 --> 01:13:25,100
here. 
He could go day 3 and that would

1397
01:13:25,100 --> 01:13:29,100
be you know, really ugly. 
Lee, it really depends with Sean

1398
01:13:29,100 --> 01:13:30,800
Tucker. 
He's like there there are two 

1399
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,900
versions of Sean Tucker's 
profile where he's either the 

1400
01:13:33,900 --> 01:13:36,800
guy who didn't test or he's the 
guy who self-reported a fourth 

1401
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:42,800
three and jump like 41 inches 
like with some guy verifying it,

1402
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,500
I guess. 
But I do like Sean Tucker, he 

1403
01:13:46,500 --> 01:13:48,100
caught passes. 
He's fast. 

1404
01:13:48,100 --> 01:13:50,800
He's 207 pounds so he's not too 
too small. 

1405
01:13:53,100 --> 01:13:55,900
Like I said, this is a ugly comp
for him, but I kind of like the 

1406
01:13:55,900 --> 01:13:58,800
comp of like Duke Johnson, he 
catches passes, he's bigger. 

1407
01:13:59,800 --> 01:14:03,100
You know, it's really just comes
down to what Sean Tucker is a 

1408
01:14:03,108 --> 01:14:05,000
team going to see him and 
they're going to make him Duke 

1409
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:09,200
Johnson or Giovani Bernard where
he just catches passes and, you 

1410
01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,000
know, it's a satellite back or 
if they used him as you know a 

1411
01:14:13,500 --> 01:14:16,300
dual threat type running back, 
you know like a Kareem hunt 

1412
01:14:16,300 --> 01:14:18,700
catching passes out of the 
backfield, running the ball 

1413
01:14:18,700 --> 01:14:21,800
being explosive but his numbers 
in terms of the spreadsheet 

1414
01:14:21,800 --> 01:14:25,600
stuff like he looks. 
It's just a matter of do teams, 

1415
01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:27,900
you know, trust is like 
self-reported. 

1416
01:14:27,900 --> 01:14:29,800
Like little video. 
He put on Twitter and does that 

1417
01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,100
get him drafted on day two? 
Because if it doesn't, and he 

1418
01:14:32,100 --> 01:14:35,900
goes day 3, then that probably 
bumps him down to like a 23. 

1419
01:14:35,900 --> 01:14:39,200
Turn guy for me. 
All right. 

1420
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:42,600
Any other thoughts on Sean. 
Tucker from got the best Twitter

1421
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,100
game in this class. 
Let's see, who's gonna check out

1422
01:14:45,108 --> 01:14:46,900
his Twitter feed. 
It's unbelievable. 

1423
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:48,500
There's like Recaps, right after
game. 

1424
01:14:48,500 --> 01:14:51,700
Yeah, he like recap is, he's 
like, I had a pretty good game 

1425
01:14:51,700 --> 01:14:54,600
today and then he like talks 
about like how he performs. 

1426
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:55,800
It's unbelievable. 
Amazing. 

1427
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,800
He like 100 yards on Boston 
College. 

1428
01:14:57,800 --> 01:15:01,200
She's like, yeah, he's got this.
Like hashtag pleased with with 

1429
01:15:01,200 --> 01:15:04,400
the number 34 in it, like his 
college number and stuff. 

1430
01:15:04,500 --> 01:15:07,600
It's pretty incredible JJ. 
You need to start doing that 

1431
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,000
after everything. 
A late round pot, 

1432
01:15:20,300 --> 01:15:23,000
like, how you would probably 
like, like, what if you 

1433
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,100
collected, like, baseball cards 
or something growing up the way 

1434
01:15:26,100 --> 01:15:28,800
that you would like talk about 
like the stats on the back and 

1435
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:30,600
stuff like that. 
Like that's how he portrays 

1436
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,000
himself on Twitter's incredible 
Saturday we would Syracuse, 32 

1437
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:36,200
BC 23. 
I'm pleased with the outcome of 

1438
01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:37,800
the game and another 
fourth-quarter comeback. 

1439
01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:40,700
I'm This is my performance. 
I rushed 20 arrests for 21 

1440
01:15:40,700 --> 01:15:42,400
carries hundred twenty-five 
yards and two TDS. 

1441
01:15:42,400 --> 01:15:45,100
One reception for 4 yards. 
Thanks to all the keys fans, who

1442
01:15:45,100 --> 01:15:46,600
supported us throughout the 
season. 

1443
01:15:46,600 --> 01:15:50,100
Please let me see what spring. 
Not please. 

1444
01:15:50,500 --> 01:15:52,900
Oh I think that. 
What you meant about the pleased

1445
01:15:52,900 --> 01:15:55,800
with the 34 tackling like yeah, 
I'm not pleased with my 

1446
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:57,500
performance or the outcome of 
the game office. 

1447
01:15:58,500 --> 01:16:02,200
That's fine. 
Am I in my guide, the the first 

1448
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:04,600
sentence for the Sean Tucker 
profile is I'm pleased to 

1449
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:09,900
announce that the Z profit. 
It makes sense. 

1450
01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:13,200
He went to school with such a 
great journalism program to, I 

1451
01:16:13,208 --> 01:16:19,200
mean he's really attacking every
caps, every Stat, one reception 

1452
01:16:19,200 --> 01:16:22,500
for 4 yards made it into his 
suite, so good. 

1453
01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,200
All right. 
Some of you guys did happen to 

1454
01:16:27,208 --> 01:16:33,200
forget that this contest is 
tight in premium, Michael Mayer,

1455
01:16:33,300 --> 01:16:38,600
AKA baby Gronk, aka the top 
tight end off Off the board 

1456
01:16:38,600 --> 01:16:42,200
who's gotten lost in the sea of 
Darnell Washington, pushing a 

1457
01:16:42,200 --> 01:16:44,100
sled. 
I mean this guy can still go top

1458
01:16:44,100 --> 01:16:46,900
15, right? 
I think so. 

1459
01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,900
Yeah. 
What's what, why are we, why are

1460
01:16:49,900 --> 01:16:52,700
we letting Michael Mayer slip to
pick 16? 

1461
01:16:52,700 --> 01:16:56,200
He probably doesn't No, it's a 
good picture. 

1462
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,100
S, very good picking around like
you. 

1463
01:16:58,300 --> 01:17:00,400
Yeah. 
Anyone want to speak on how much

1464
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:01,700
I'm crushing? 
This mock draft. 

1465
01:17:04,500 --> 01:17:05,600
This is a good. 
This is good. 

1466
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,900
No, Kevin. 
I actually was worried tonight 

1467
01:17:07,900 --> 01:17:10,100
coming into this that there's 
going to be last time I did this

1468
01:17:10,100 --> 01:17:12,800
spreadsheet stuff. 
There was a lot of chur, purrs, 

1469
01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:17,000
you know, backseat, Google sheet
drivers, all the like, and you 

1470
01:17:17,000 --> 01:17:19,600
guys have really kept it in 
check tonight, and welcome. 

1471
01:17:19,600 --> 01:17:22,800
Can, I can I say something now 
that we're on the topic, so 

1472
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:27,400
every single, every single Engel
pick, Pete has been dragging to 

1473
01:17:27,400 --> 01:17:30,100
make the the column big and I 
know the person's name. 

1474
01:17:30,300 --> 01:17:33,100
You can double click the column.
You just go top and dug up 

1475
01:17:33,100 --> 01:17:34,400
double click where you're 
dragging. 

1476
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:37,700
A lot of, it'll just automate it
like that. 

1477
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,500
You then you know where you 
Dragged In from? 

1478
01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:46,700
Oh my God. 
If you were there before, have 

1479
01:17:46,700 --> 01:17:49,000
you forgotten where? 
Yeah, double click that you can 

1480
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:51,200
actually do that for every 
column all at once. 

1481
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:53,600
If you highlight them all that, 
while Blair, I wanted to start 

1482
01:17:53,600 --> 01:17:58,400
that. 
Just like typically, when the 

1483
01:17:58,407 --> 01:18:01,600
first time goes, we get it all 
caps tight end. 

1484
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:11,500
But you know what? 
It's like, it's hard to host the

1485
01:18:11,500 --> 01:18:15,500
show, you know, administer, the 
draft board and just run laps 

1486
01:18:15,500 --> 01:18:17,300
around you guys with my 
selection. 

1487
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:20,500
So just cut me a little slack 
JJ. 

1488
01:18:20,500 --> 01:18:22,500
You are back on the clock for 
pick 17. 

1489
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:25,500
Yeah. 
I feel like there's kind of, you

1490
01:18:25,500 --> 01:18:28,400
know, I really like Sean Tucker,
you know, if I were to go 

1491
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,500
running back here, I would hope 
that he would be there. 

1492
01:18:30,500 --> 01:18:33,600
There's just so many running 
backs right now at this point 

1493
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,100
where we don't know draft 
Capital so I'd rather not go 

1494
01:18:36,100 --> 01:18:39,500
that route and the wide 
receivers kind of suck and I 

1495
01:18:39,500 --> 01:18:42,600
could maybe make an argument for
a tight end but I'm going to go 

1496
01:18:42,600 --> 01:18:45,600
ahead and hook her here. 
I'm going to go with the 

1497
01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:49,000
quarterback you know he's got 
the mobile upside. 

1498
01:18:49,000 --> 01:18:53,200
We love the rushing upside. 
You know we this is really just 

1499
01:18:53,200 --> 01:18:55,700
a situation where I like to 
throw darts in the second round 

1500
01:18:55,700 --> 01:18:58,700
at quarterback and hope that 
they have the starting gig the 

1501
01:18:58,700 --> 01:19:01,500
second year of their career and 
then you just trade them away or

1502
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,200
in this case the as the rushing 
up said that we look for like 

1503
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,600
what we saw out of like a Jalen 
hurts and maybe something come 

1504
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,300
of it. 
So that's the direction. 

1505
01:19:09,300 --> 01:19:10,700
I'm going there. 
I like it. 

1506
01:19:12,200 --> 01:19:16,400
All right, oops, this is for 
JJ's column. 

1507
01:19:18,700 --> 01:19:22,900
All right, Pat you are on the 
clock with pic18. 

1508
01:19:23,800 --> 01:19:25,900
I have a feeling I'm going to 
have to adjust your column. 

1509
01:19:25,900 --> 01:19:36,400
After this, I'm gonna go with a 
guy was terrified. 

1510
01:19:36,400 --> 01:19:39,100
JJ was going to pick the guy we 
hiked yesterday. 

1511
01:19:39,500 --> 01:19:41,300
Is he abandoned Ganda? 
There we go. 

1512
01:19:41,400 --> 01:19:45,300
Can't Wow, I could have gone 
back back pit there man. 

1513
01:19:45,300 --> 01:19:48,000
I really screwed that up. 
I was sure you were going to 

1514
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,800
take him. 
I was sure because he's 

1515
01:19:49,800 --> 01:19:53,400
officially the most athletic 
running back in this class. 

1516
01:19:53,400 --> 01:19:57,300
Now, rast out footballs got him 
as the top guy in the class with

1517
01:19:57,300 --> 01:20:00,700
his wrath score. 
I think he jumped up into day 

1518
01:20:00,700 --> 01:20:04,200
two with the performance. 
You just put in at his pro day 

1519
01:20:04,800 --> 01:20:07,700
and my issue with this class is 
like there's not a lot of 

1520
01:20:07,700 --> 01:20:11,500
clarity on the guys who are 
going to be going past this 

1521
01:20:11,700 --> 01:20:14,100
Charbonnet. 
Well, I think now we have a 

1522
01:20:14,108 --> 01:20:16,700
little bit of clarity that he's 
not going to be falling like 

1523
01:20:16,700 --> 01:20:19,600
super late and he's got a really
nice profile overall. 

1524
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:23,200
He was like if you watch him he 
gets up to speed quickly. 

1525
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,800
He's clearly very fast as we saw
today. 

1526
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:27,700
He looks like kind of Rahim most
sturdy. 

1527
01:20:27,700 --> 01:20:30,700
He's like a one cut Runner. 
I think him Landing in like a 

1528
01:20:30,700 --> 01:20:33,300
spot like Miami or something. 
He could take that back field 

1529
01:20:33,300 --> 01:20:37,700
over he also has enough 
receiving juice he's charbonnet 

1530
01:20:37,700 --> 01:20:41,100
ask that way. 
He had Point 99 yards per out, 

1531
01:20:41,100 --> 01:20:44,400
Ron Over his career, that's 
actually slightly better than 

1532
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:48,700
charbonnet in a Range where you 
see guys kind of go one way or 

1533
01:20:48,700 --> 01:20:52,000
the other is receivers, 
sometimes they'll won't do much 

1534
01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:53,500
other times. 
They'll be like three down back 

1535
01:20:53,500 --> 01:20:57,000
so it's like, I think a pretty 
high up side profile, given how 

1536
01:20:57,000 --> 01:21:00,100
athletic he is, and now draft 
capital on the rise. 

1537
01:21:02,300 --> 01:21:06,200
I like it Gretch. 
You are up here. 

1538
01:21:06,200 --> 01:21:08,900
Pick 19. 
Wrapping back in the second 

1539
01:21:08,900 --> 01:21:18,100
round. 
I'm trying to watch tank. 

1540
01:21:18,100 --> 01:21:25,000
Bigsby highlights right now. 
I'm gonna take take Bigsby, I 

1541
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:30,700
didn't either gave you that some
good years, 10 seconds, his name

1542
01:21:30,700 --> 01:21:32,500
and wait. 
He's no. 

1543
01:21:32,500 --> 01:21:34,900
So I did have some kind of high 
on my list and I was looking 

1544
01:21:34,900 --> 01:21:37,300
through all of the smarter 
people than me that are on the 

1545
01:21:37,300 --> 01:21:42,200
show's work earlier, because did
catch some passes, right? 

1546
01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:45,400
And he's bigger, like a lot of 
the other backs that are going 

1547
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:50,000
Even a change AJ, you made some 
really strong cases against him 

1548
01:21:50,000 --> 01:21:52,900
just based on weight and I agree
with them that like you're 

1549
01:21:52,900 --> 01:21:55,000
probably not like what are you? 
What are you getting? 

1550
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,400
If you're right there. 
I don't, I don't love that. 

1551
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:01,200
Bigsby's a 210-pound back. 
He's got bigger backs into 

1552
01:22:01,200 --> 01:22:06,000
statistical profile and Jim, I 
think he made a case that his 

1553
01:22:06,000 --> 01:22:09,500
best season reception chair was 
was pretty strong and put them 

1554
01:22:09,500 --> 01:22:14,700
in a good group that like all 
right leg back, sit, catch 

1555
01:22:14,700 --> 01:22:17,500
passes, Charles Sims model. 
I mean, Charles tips. 

1556
01:22:17,500 --> 01:22:19,000
I was comfortable Zone under 
chart. 

1557
01:22:19,000 --> 01:22:22,800
We have, we have to Charles Sims
comps on my roster. 

1558
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,100
Let's go. 
I should have taken him. 

1559
01:22:25,400 --> 01:22:29,100
Honestly, I didn't I just wanted
to get cute with the quarterback

1560
01:22:29,100 --> 01:22:32,600
but he, he like, he profiles 
really strongly to DeMarco 

1561
01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:36,100
Murray and the in the old model 
there. 

1562
01:22:36,900 --> 01:22:39,100
So I do like me some, some tank 
big be. 

1563
01:22:41,100 --> 01:22:44,100
All right, Pat, you are back on 
the clock. 

1564
01:22:44,100 --> 01:22:46,000
Oh man, the chat says you're 
just having it. 

1565
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:49,500
Disastrous draft, Nick Young, 
hee check fives from Pat on this

1566
01:22:49,500 --> 01:22:51,300
trap. 
Turning around sibling the 

1567
01:22:51,300 --> 01:22:52,700
three. 
While it bricks. 

1568
01:22:52,900 --> 01:22:55,000
You got to win the people's back
over with this little. 

1569
01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:57,300
Like come on. 
I got Duke. 

1570
01:22:57,300 --> 01:22:59,700
It's a super Flex draft that I 
have two quarterbacks. 

1571
01:22:59,700 --> 01:23:01,300
I can't be that bad. 
Yeah, it's a highlight. 

1572
01:23:01,300 --> 01:23:03,300
What are they? 
What's the saying going in the 

1573
01:23:03,300 --> 01:23:04,500
NFL. 
If you have two quarterbacks, 

1574
01:23:04,500 --> 01:23:07,100
you don't have one. 
I think that's a pretty right 

1575
01:23:07,100 --> 01:23:09,400
now, Pat. 
All right, let's go. 

1576
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:12,300
All right, let me just check the
old rankings. 

1577
01:23:12,300 --> 01:23:14,200
Here will let us go get some 
time in premium points. 

1578
01:23:14,200 --> 01:23:21,800
Possibly I'm gonna go with. 
I don't like this pic because 

1579
01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:23,900
it's not that fun. 
But I'm gonna go with Devin a 

1580
01:23:23,900 --> 01:23:26,800
chain. 
He's, let's go. 

1581
01:23:27,200 --> 01:23:29,200
He's probably going to be a 
second round pick. 

1582
01:23:29,600 --> 01:23:32,500
Just give me a second round pick
and he's like, yeah, he's really

1583
01:23:32,500 --> 01:23:34,500
tiny. 
He's like 188 Pounds, but he is 

1584
01:23:34,500 --> 01:23:37,600
fast, and he was very productive
and he's a guy. 

1585
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:41,600
Like when I tried to find comps,
I basically couldn't find any. 

1586
01:23:41,700 --> 01:23:44,000
He doesn't complete like 
anybody, but I think maybe 

1587
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:45,100
that's good. 
You know? 

1588
01:23:45,100 --> 01:23:47,900
Because he's 188 Pounds and 
we're trying to have him do 

1589
01:23:47,900 --> 01:23:49,500
something that basically, no one
else did. 

1590
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:51,500
He'll be as good as competent 
Charles Sims. 

1591
01:23:52,400 --> 01:23:53,900
It's not as good as Compass. 
Charles Sims. 

1592
01:23:53,900 --> 01:23:57,800
But you know he doesn't he's 
not, he doesn't look very much 

1593
01:23:57,800 --> 01:24:00,700
like the many other small 
running backs who've done 

1594
01:24:00,700 --> 01:24:03,100
nothing in the NFL. 
So that's good. 

1595
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:04,300
You know. 
But it isn't good. 

1596
01:24:04,300 --> 01:24:06,500
That he's so small. 
So I'm guess I feel like I'm 

1597
01:24:06,500 --> 01:24:08,400
getting the discount at this 
point and I'll take it. 

1598
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:14,100
All right. 
I'll allow it Ron, your backup. 

1599
01:24:14,100 --> 01:24:16,000
You have you selected to 
running? 

1600
01:24:16,200 --> 01:24:18,600
Acts with the franchise on the 
back half of the board you took 

1601
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:21,700
Bryce young with this franchise.
What do you got on tap? 

1602
01:24:22,500 --> 01:24:25,000
Oh, let me get, let me get 
Darnell Washington. 

1603
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:34,600
Oh yeah, yeah yeah, go for it. 
But I've been wanting to talk 

1604
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,600
about Darnell Washington, like I
can just gush about Dinah 

1605
01:24:36,600 --> 01:24:39,300
Washington. 
He's massive. 

1606
01:24:39,300 --> 01:24:42,600
He's like what? 
Like 66 like 265 pounds. 

1607
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:46,000
He could play tackle if you 
wanted to, and I guess. 

1608
01:24:46,100 --> 01:24:47,300
That's kind of the drawback, 
right? 

1609
01:24:47,300 --> 01:24:49,400
Like people think, okay he's 
going to do a lot of run 

1610
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:54,000
blocking and for sure that is a 
concern that he could do a lot 

1611
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,100
of run blocking but there's a 
lot of upside to like he was on 

1612
01:24:56,100 --> 01:24:57,400
Georgia, they ran the ball a 
lot. 

1613
01:24:57,400 --> 01:24:59,000
They would just beat the crap 
out of everybody. 

1614
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:01,900
Like it's not like they needed 
Darnell watching the go out 

1615
01:25:01,900 --> 01:25:04,300
there make a play he has very 
natural hands. 

1616
01:25:04,300 --> 01:25:06,800
He like how like a one-handed 
grab at the combine. 

1617
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:08,900
Yeah I think he did like some 
other cool stuff at the pro day.

1618
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:13,800
He has hands and like we see 
some guys come in where they are

1619
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:15,700
run blockers. 
Like, I think I had a stat. 

1620
01:25:16,300 --> 01:25:20,800
George Kettle blocked like he 
only was out like in 60% of the 

1621
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,200
routes like his final year at 
Iowa. 

1622
01:25:22,200 --> 01:25:24,800
Another that's like a very like,
obscure comp, but like, no 

1623
01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:26,700
offense was there and they use 
them as a run, blocker, and he 

1624
01:25:26,700 --> 01:25:30,500
kind of, yes, he was a run 
Blocker in the NFL, but you can 

1625
01:25:30,500 --> 01:25:34,200
still be an elite fantasy tight 
end will also be an elite run 

1626
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:36,300
blocker, like, he'll just be 
asked to be out there more 

1627
01:25:36,300 --> 01:25:37,700
often. 
Of course, we want him to run 

1628
01:25:37,700 --> 01:25:40,900
routes, but I don't think I 
don't think it's as much of an 

1629
01:25:40,900 --> 01:25:43,600
indictment on him as others 
might think. 

1630
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,700
And the big thing that I love 
with Dinah Washington is that 

1631
01:25:45,700 --> 01:25:48,900
his death This is actually shows
up like kiseki ran and killed 

1632
01:25:48,900 --> 01:25:50,800
the combine. 
His yards per reception called 

1633
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:53,500
was eleven point five which is 
like nothing. 

1634
01:25:54,200 --> 01:25:56,400
Donna, Washington's yards per 
reception, curry rice 

1635
01:25:56,400 --> 01:26:01,700
perception, 17.2, which is like 
Gronk was 16 Andrews was 15.8 

1636
01:26:01,700 --> 01:26:03,900
and you have a lot of guys in 
this class who aren't big play 

1637
01:26:03,900 --> 01:26:08,100
guy is like mayor's mayor's was 
11.7. 

1638
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:11,800
So, you have a guy who's 
actually realizing that crazy 

1639
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:15,000
relative Athletic score, with 
massive plays, I think that he 

1640
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,000
can develop as a pass. 
Catcher to the point where he 

1641
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,700
would be valuable in fantasy. 
I actually like mayor my first 

1642
01:26:19,700 --> 01:26:22,100
pick as well, but I felt like 
there's four tight ends up 

1643
01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:23,500
having like the same tier in 
this draft class. 

1644
01:26:23,500 --> 01:26:26,100
So, I'm fine. 
Just waiting on tight end to 

1645
01:26:26,100 --> 01:26:32,700
like this two, three, turn area.
Roll the clip. 

1646
01:26:36,900 --> 01:26:38,400
This guy you guys are going to 
like him. 

1647
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:42,000
This dude is massive. 
Oh, shit. 

1648
01:26:42,500 --> 01:26:51,400
This dude is fucking bad. 
Every successful person has to 

1649
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:57,800
do including you every 
successful person in this world.

1650
01:26:58,700 --> 01:27:11,700
As jumped. 
Electric pepper on that clip to 

1651
01:27:11,700 --> 01:27:14,000
I didn't know you even knew we 
had that cliff and you just kind

1652
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:20,100
of organically. 
We're all very high. 

1653
01:27:20,700 --> 01:27:23,300
We do in fact have a dart at 
Washington clip around here. 

1654
01:27:23,300 --> 01:27:26,200
Blair, you're on the clock for 
big 22. 

1655
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,900
All right. 
Gotta avoid getting sniped on a 

1656
01:27:28,900 --> 01:27:31,100
tight end so I'll take Dalton 
Kincaid. 

1657
01:27:31,500 --> 01:27:33,900
Wow. 
Okay, let's go. 

1658
01:27:34,100 --> 01:27:37,100
I figured you'd have like three 
more receivers to mix in here 

1659
01:27:37,100 --> 01:27:40,700
with you have big hands. 
And Well, Kincaid is like ten 

1660
01:27:40,700 --> 01:27:42,400
and a quarter, right? 
Okay. 

1661
01:27:42,900 --> 01:27:44,500
So it's answer. 
Yeah, I knew that. 

1662
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:47,400
Yeah. 
That's, that's definitely right.

1663
01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:52,300
Yeah. 
Anything to say about Kincaid? 

1664
01:27:52,300 --> 01:27:55,100
I feel like he's kind of the 
Forgotten tied in right now just

1665
01:27:55,100 --> 01:27:58,500
because he didn't run and do 
anything at the combine. 

1666
01:27:59,300 --> 01:28:01,200
How are you feeling about his 
draft Capital? 

1667
01:28:02,700 --> 01:28:05,100
Mina, the people are still 
talking about him in the first 

1668
01:28:05,100 --> 01:28:08,300
round, right? 
So Yeah. 

1669
01:28:08,300 --> 01:28:13,700
He's basically as productive as 
mayor and arguably had a better 

1670
01:28:13,700 --> 01:28:15,500
combine than Mary even though he
didn't run. 

1671
01:28:17,300 --> 01:28:20,500
Yeah, it does anyone else have 
like? 

1672
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,100
Because it doesn't seem like 
there's really a consensus right

1673
01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:28,300
now, for how people are sorting 
the tight ends. 

1674
01:28:28,300 --> 01:28:31,100
Because I even I think I saw a 
company Amico and his Mock Draft

1675
01:28:31,100 --> 01:28:31,800
today. 
I'd like to our know, 

1676
01:28:31,800 --> 01:28:34,200
Washington, going top 15 to the 
Packers. 

1677
01:28:35,100 --> 01:28:36,800
It just seems like everyone's 
all over the board. 

1678
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:40,100
Does anyone have like strong 
takes on on how to rank these 

1679
01:28:40,100 --> 01:28:42,700
guys? 
Now it's just a it's just a 

1680
01:28:42,708 --> 01:28:45,700
great class. 
I mean there's there's guys I 

1681
01:28:45,700 --> 01:28:47,300
finally started like working 
with. 

1682
01:28:47,300 --> 01:28:50,200
I'm going to say it again, a 
tight end model this offseason 

1683
01:28:50,300 --> 01:28:56,500
and this class has more 80th 
percentile or above players by 

1684
01:28:56,500 --> 01:29:01,400
far than any other classes 2015.
I mean, it's crazy how deep it 

1685
01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:03,300
is. 
I mean you can get to like a Sam

1686
01:29:03,300 --> 01:29:08,200
laporta a craft or a Zach cunts.
I mean there's just there are 

1687
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,900
really really good tight ends 
everywhere, which is, you know, 

1688
01:29:11,000 --> 01:29:13,200
No, you can get these guys in 
the second round inside and 

1689
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:14,000
premium. 
That's fine. 

1690
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:17,900
But I think in a normal League, 
you know, normal Tenley, you can

1691
01:29:17,900 --> 01:29:21,000
wait till the 3rd and get very, 
very good talent and not have to

1692
01:29:21,000 --> 01:29:24,400
worry about, you know, using one
of those pics on and having that

1693
01:29:24,400 --> 01:29:27,000
opportunity cost of not getting 
a running back or wide receiver 

1694
01:29:28,100 --> 01:29:30,900
and I think the important thing 
to note with the Titans 2 is you

1695
01:29:30,900 --> 01:29:33,800
probably saw. 
Like I also my model is well I 

1696
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:37,100
was working with tight ends and 
you'll see, like, do the the 

1697
01:29:37,100 --> 01:29:40,000
best tight end prospects ever. 
In your model are bad. 

1698
01:29:40,100 --> 01:29:43,900
Like, Noah fan should have been 
great like as much as much as 

1699
01:29:43,900 --> 01:29:47,000
Michael Mayer is good and he 
looks amazing to me, they're all

1700
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,700
in this huge tear. 
So instead of like I know 

1701
01:29:48,700 --> 01:29:51,500
mayor's the consensus like, he's
like a back-end first round. 

1702
01:29:51,700 --> 01:29:53,900
I'd rather just wait, like we 
really don't know. 

1703
01:29:53,900 --> 01:29:56,000
Hawkinson was like, if you look 
at top 10, draft picks like, 

1704
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:57,800
it's like it's Hawkinson, it's 
Eric Ebron. 

1705
01:29:57,900 --> 01:30:01,900
On like it, like, looking 
through tight end prospects. 

1706
01:30:01,900 --> 01:30:04,900
Like, I was about to say, like 
it almost made me question. 

1707
01:30:04,900 --> 01:30:07,600
Like, I hope it's like there's 
no sure things at tight end man.

1708
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,700
Like if there was OJ, Howard 
would be sick. 

1709
01:30:09,700 --> 01:30:14,500
Like it's it's insane. 
How it's a crapshoot. 

1710
01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:17,100
Like all of the elite side ends 
right now to everybody that has 

1711
01:30:17,100 --> 01:30:19,300
those great Seasons. 
It's what like kid'll. 

1712
01:30:19,300 --> 01:30:20,600
Kelsey. 
None of these guys are drafted 

1713
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:23,100
in the first round to earn wall 
or like all of these guys are 

1714
01:30:23,100 --> 01:30:26,000
outside the first round. 
So I'm not saying that mayor 

1715
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,200
can't be the best item in this 
class. 

1716
01:30:27,200 --> 01:30:28,900
I'm just saying, it's not. 
His obvious with tight ends I 

1717
01:30:28,900 --> 01:30:31,400
guess. 
All right, man. 

1718
01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:33,000
I get it. 
I snipe you and Quinn Johnson. 

1719
01:30:37,100 --> 01:30:40,600
All right, man. 
You stole my thunder because 

1720
01:30:40,600 --> 01:30:43,000
both of you guys. 
I think I'm just gonna keep this

1721
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:45,900
tight end train going, man. 
I'm keeping it going. 

1722
01:30:45,900 --> 01:30:50,300
I mean Sam laporta. 
Come on down, I've seen the r as

1723
01:30:50,300 --> 01:30:52,000
charts. 
I mean, this guy torched 

1724
01:30:52,000 --> 01:30:55,700
everything he seems like just as
good of a candidate is any of 

1725
01:30:55,700 --> 01:30:59,200
these guys to, to emerge as the 
top tied in the class. 

1726
01:30:59,200 --> 01:31:04,100
Anyone want to speak on what a 
great Like, I like it a lot. 

1727
01:31:05,700 --> 01:31:08,900
He's not going to get the draft 
capital and, you know, he's 

1728
01:31:08,900 --> 01:31:11,900
going later and like so kind of 
playing like the market game. 

1729
01:31:11,900 --> 01:31:15,600
You should probably wait until 
these first three tight ends are

1730
01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:21,800
off the board, but he's really 
strong after catch producer and 

1731
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,200
at tight end, I think you're 
just looking for guys who have, 

1732
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,500
like, receiving skills of some 
kind so that like, I really like

1733
01:31:27,500 --> 01:31:30,500
dolls it's last year because he 
had the ability to wind down. 

1734
01:31:30,700 --> 01:31:34,400
Field and laporta doesn't do 
that so much but he wins after 

1735
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:38,800
the catch and so I'm kind of 
excited about him emerging 

1736
01:31:38,800 --> 01:31:41,700
probably more from he could be 
more of a like a third-round 

1737
01:31:41,700 --> 01:31:45,900
pick and he might have to like 
earn his way a little bit more 

1738
01:31:45,900 --> 01:31:47,900
but I think he's a pretty strong
bet. 

1739
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:52,100
All right. 
JJ you get too close this out 

1740
01:31:52,100 --> 01:31:54,600
ship chasings Dynasty mock draft
mr. 

1741
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:59,000
Irrelevant hopefully we'll go on
to have a brock / DS career in 

1742
01:31:59,000 --> 01:32:03,000
this hypothetical landscape. 
Yeah, I mean I'm gonna get weird

1743
01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:04,400
with it because it's the last 
pick, right? 

1744
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:05,700
I got to get a little weird with
it. 

1745
01:32:05,800 --> 01:32:08,500
I'm gonna go with my favorite 
sleeper at wide receiver this 

1746
01:32:08,500 --> 01:32:11,200
year, and that is one Jaden 
read. 

1747
01:32:12,800 --> 01:32:15,000
He's climbing up mock draft 
boards, a little bit. 

1748
01:32:15,000 --> 01:32:18,900
I think he could be a day to 
pick at this point, but he has a

1749
01:32:18,900 --> 01:32:21,200
really interesting profile 
started at Western Michigan. 

1750
01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,500
And when he was at Western 
Michigan as a freshman, he 

1751
01:32:23,500 --> 01:32:27,300
outproduced dies courage when he
was at Mindy's fridge, was 45 

1752
01:32:27,300 --> 01:32:31,500
years old as a junior, but he 
out produce dies. 

1753
01:32:31,700 --> 01:32:34,100
Courage and then he transfers 
the Michigan State. 

1754
01:32:34,100 --> 01:32:36,400
When he transferred to Michigan 
State's Sky, more entered the 

1755
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:39,400
picture at Western Michigan. 
And if you look at sky Moore's 

1756
01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:42,900
freshman season versus Jaden 
reads freshman season read 

1757
01:32:42,900 --> 01:32:46,800
actually outperformed Sky, more 
in yards per team pass attempt 

1758
01:32:47,100 --> 01:32:50,500
and then he went on to Michigan.
State had a good production 

1759
01:32:50,500 --> 01:32:53,600
profile there for the most part.
You know, he got some work in on

1760
01:32:53,600 --> 01:32:59,500
the ground as a punt and kick 
returner and and then I looked 

1761
01:32:59,500 --> 01:33:04,300
at my model once again and I 
looked at some comps and one of 

1762
01:33:04,300 --> 01:33:06,300
his top, three comps was on 
digs. 

1763
01:33:06,300 --> 01:33:09,200
And so, I always look very into 
Jaden read. 

1764
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:12,300
So he's been my go-to sleeper, 
wide receiver. 

1765
01:33:12,300 --> 01:33:14,300
You don't have to take them here
at this point. 

1766
01:33:14,300 --> 01:33:16,900
It's like fourth round or if 
that and mock drafts in the 

1767
01:33:16,900 --> 01:33:19,800
fantasy world, but I think he's 
gonna rise quite a bit over the 

1768
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,700
next month digit. 
There's a lot of respect being 

1769
01:33:22,700 --> 01:33:26,700
shown here because I don't know 
if you know the rules around 

1770
01:33:26,700 --> 01:33:30,200
here but people have been booted
off The Show for less than what 

1771
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:34,500
you just said about this guy. 
More Pete people will go bear a 

1772
01:33:34,508 --> 01:33:37,000
little bit. 
I thought I didn't respect here 

1773
01:33:37,300 --> 01:33:39,100
this guy more. 
Do you guys remember? 

1774
01:33:39,100 --> 01:33:41,700
I'm the one anytime we're on a 
draft now you guys want to 

1775
01:33:41,700 --> 01:33:43,300
drive? 
Sky more and I know you're out. 

1776
01:33:43,300 --> 01:33:44,600
He's in here. 
I'm yeah. 

1777
01:33:44,900 --> 01:33:48,000
So I was on he immediately 
capitulated on Sky more. 

1778
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:50,100
He no longer thinks he is just 
like his fucking name for a 

1779
01:33:50,100 --> 01:33:51,200
wider series ever. 
Heard. 

1780
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,000
We'll look, first the wax poetic
about JJ Taylor. 

1781
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:55,600
I'll play That fucking clip so 
fast. 

1782
01:33:55,600 --> 01:34:00,100
It'll make your head. 
No, no, no, this is, this is a, 

1783
01:34:00,200 --> 01:34:03,000
this is a third, time's a charm 
situation for Western Michigan 

1784
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:07,000
wide receivers going around. 
Watch it, watch it, work out 

1785
01:34:07,100 --> 01:34:09,800
well. 
And I believe when reebs came 

1786
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:12,400
on, he gave a little love to 
Jaden read. 

1787
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,700
He also said that, he predicts 
that Sean over at Road of is, is

1788
01:34:15,700 --> 01:34:20,100
Gonna Love read Blair. 
Any inside information has shown

1789
01:34:20,100 --> 01:34:24,100
whispered anything in your ear 
about Jaden read, I haven't 

1790
01:34:24,100 --> 01:34:27,500
heard anything about Jaden read.
I'm looking at Sean's rankings 

1791
01:34:27,500 --> 01:34:32,100
now actually and I don't even 
see his name in the top 50. 

1792
01:34:32,100 --> 01:34:35,900
So maybe maybe they're not. 
Maybe these aren't the real 

1793
01:34:35,900 --> 01:34:37,900
rankings. 
Maybe he's got a secret set to 

1794
01:34:37,900 --> 01:34:40,400
be fair. 
Like like I said, read read in 

1795
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,800
these mocks is like not even 
going and taught like in the top

1796
01:34:43,800 --> 01:34:46,100
four rounds. 
I just had to have a little fun 

1797
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:49,100
with the last pick and you know,
pour some out for Sky more all 

1798
01:34:49,100 --> 01:34:52,600
while doing it now. 
We we appreciate that. 

1799
01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:54,900
For the audio. 
Lister's, I'm going to recap 

1800
01:34:54,900 --> 01:34:59,700
this this draft real quick for 
you Bijan Robinson, AR-15 

1801
01:34:59,700 --> 01:35:01,500
bitches. 
Jameer Gibbs, Bryce, young CJ. 

1802
01:35:01,500 --> 01:35:04,300
Stroud jsn will Levis. 
Jordan, Addison Quinton Johnson,

1803
01:35:04,300 --> 01:35:06,900
Zach, Chardonnay, Jalen Hyatt. 
Josh towns a flowers Parvin, 

1804
01:35:06,900 --> 01:35:08,600
man, Sean Tucker, Michael Mayer 
Hendon. 

1805
01:35:08,600 --> 01:35:10,900
Hooker, is he a bundle? 
What tank, a change are no 

1806
01:35:10,900 --> 01:35:12,800
Washington. 
Dalton, Kincaid Sam, laporta 

1807
01:35:12,900 --> 01:35:15,900
Jaden read fellas. 
We did it. 

1808
01:35:15,900 --> 01:35:22,200
A two-round dynasty superflex 
tied in premium mock draft, Ron,

1809
01:35:22,200 --> 01:35:23,700
it was Chopping it up with you 
man. 

1810
01:35:23,700 --> 01:35:27,400
It's been way too long and 
everybody needs to check out 

1811
01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:29,200
your YouTube channel. 
What kind of stuff do you got 

1812
01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:30,400
going on over there? 
These days. 

1813
01:35:30,900 --> 01:35:34,700
Oh, thanks for having me on 
channel, just chopping it up 

1814
01:35:34,700 --> 01:35:37,100
rookie stuff. 
Ron Stewart, the channel. 

1815
01:35:37,100 --> 01:35:39,200
So you can just type in run 
Stewart and I'll show up finally

1816
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:41,900
at the spot. 
Now we're Rod Stewart doesn't 

1817
01:35:41,900 --> 01:35:44,700
show up and just plug the search
results. 

1818
01:35:46,500 --> 01:35:48,200
But yeah, we're just talking 
rookie stuff. 

1819
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:53,200
We'll see if we can go back to 
back on getting Most accurate 

1820
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,700
mock draft. 
I'm sure I'll get a, I'll get 

1821
01:35:55,700 --> 01:35:56,800
bumped. 
It was a three-way tie. 

1822
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:00,100
So I barely won last year. 
But yeah, so that's what I have 

1823
01:36:00,100 --> 01:36:02,400
going on there. 
I'll say, thanks for having me 

1824
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:05,400
on like this is pretty cool. 
Like, I'm 21. 

1825
01:36:05,700 --> 01:36:09,000
I grew up like listening to JJ's
podcast and I reference all of 

1826
01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:12,100
you guys work all the time. 
So really cool to be here. 

1827
01:36:12,100 --> 01:36:14,000
Thanks for having me on for 
sure. 

1828
01:36:14,000 --> 01:36:16,500
And Ron, like he said, has an 
awesome YouTube channel. 

1829
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:18,100
I have that, I have it tagged 
down below. 

1830
01:36:18,100 --> 01:36:20,000
So if you're in the show 
description, you can just click 

1831
01:36:20,300 --> 01:36:22,400
Ron's name. 
It'll take you right over there.

1832
01:36:22,700 --> 01:36:25,200
I just searched for you on 
YouTube and I got Rod Stewart. 

1833
01:36:25,300 --> 01:36:32,000
No, why should I change my name?
He's the one who sucks back to 

1834
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,800
square one. 
Blair, what do you guys got 

1835
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,000
going on over at row tab? 
Is I was scoping out. 

1836
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:40,200
You got Volume 2 of the draft 
guide. 

1837
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:41,800
What else are you working on? 
Yeah. 

1838
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:43,600
Volume 2 of the draft guide is 
out. 

1839
01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:47,800
We got a lot of rookie content 
coming up over the next month. 

1840
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:52,600
So watch out for that. 
I know, Dave cabin published his

1841
01:36:52,700 --> 01:36:56,800
Away rush scores today. 
This morning that came out and I

1842
01:36:56,800 --> 01:37:01,500
also have backfield Dominator 
ratings up on the site today. 

1843
01:37:01,500 --> 01:37:06,000
So definitely some good stuff to
get you going with running back 

1844
01:37:06,000 --> 01:37:08,600
evaluation today. 
And we'll have a lot more coming

1845
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:12,400
up over the next few weeks. 
Love it. 

1846
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:15,200
JJ, what's going on over at 
late-round QB? 

1847
01:37:15,200 --> 01:37:18,100
Of course, we have the we got 
the draft guide, the prospect 

1848
01:37:18,100 --> 01:37:20,400
God, what else? 
Yeah, Prospect guide. 

1849
01:37:20,700 --> 01:37:22,500
I got my podcast lay around 
fantasy. 

1850
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:25,700
Football podcast but the draft 
guys but you know or sorry the 

1851
01:37:25,708 --> 01:37:27,900
prospect guides been. 
The thing that that is sort of 

1852
01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:30,600
been my baby over the last like 
couple months. 

1853
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:35,800
You can check that all that out 
over on late-round.com awesome. 

1854
01:37:36,100 --> 01:37:40,200
We'll get that link down below 
as well Gretch anything in your 

1855
01:37:40,200 --> 01:37:46,200
neck of the woods right now. 
I had jury duty this week but I 

1856
01:37:46,208 --> 01:37:50,600
got off went home right away. 
Monday didn't have to go back to

1857
01:37:50,600 --> 01:37:53,400
Zen and Wednesday. 
Well, I got a call after this I 

1858
01:37:53,407 --> 01:37:54,800
find out if I have to go 
tomorrow. 

1859
01:37:54,900 --> 01:37:59,100
So yeah, wow, thats cheap 
digital process 101. 

1860
01:38:00,300 --> 01:38:05,700
All right, Pat legendary upside 
cranking out pods article. 

1861
01:38:05,700 --> 01:38:07,400
Yes. 
What's on tap? 

1862
01:38:07,800 --> 01:38:12,200
Just launched the podcast today 
with the episode with j.j. 

1863
01:38:12,300 --> 01:38:14,800
You're talking about earlier. 
So check that out wherever you 

1864
01:38:14,800 --> 01:38:19,000
listen to podcasts and yeah, 
legendary upside.com, still run 

1865
01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:21,600
a 30-day trial. 
And if you sign up for the 

1866
01:38:21,608 --> 01:38:24,300
yearly version of that, I'll 
also add thirty dollars off your

1867
01:38:24,300 --> 01:38:26,200
first year. 
So go sign up, risk-free, 

1868
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:29,300
there's lots of good content on 
their rookie stuff, best ball 

1869
01:38:29,300 --> 01:38:31,300
stuff. 
Rookie rankings that I just 

1870
01:38:31,300 --> 01:38:35,100
updated right before this show 
so they're very very fresh. 

1871
01:38:36,000 --> 01:38:38,200
Awesome. 
Same model. 

1872
01:38:38,200 --> 01:38:41,100
One more time model. 
Model model model, lots of 

1873
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:43,400
models. 
I feel Model Envy right now. 

1874
01:38:43,400 --> 01:38:46,000
I believe I'm the only person on
the panel without a model. 

1875
01:38:46,300 --> 01:38:49,700
I will be doing a best possible 
tomorrow on the Fantasy Life. 

1876
01:38:49,700 --> 01:38:53,600
Youtubed with Dwayne McFarland, 
we're going to hop in a draft. 

1877
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:57,500
I believe he has a little bored 
draft as the big board as 

1878
01:38:57,500 --> 01:38:59,900
Donovan. 
Points out only 250 in trees 

1879
01:38:59,900 --> 01:39:02,100
left in that contest, absolutely
insane. 

1880
01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:04,900
That a contest that was the same
size as the first best Ball 

1881
01:39:04,900 --> 01:39:09,800
Mania is about, to fill weeks 
before, the NFL draft for the of

1882
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:14,000
March before the end of March. 
Like that easily, not even 

1883
01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:15,700
close. 
It wasn't even close. 

1884
01:39:16,500 --> 01:39:18,800
I appreciate all of you guys in 
the chat. 

1885
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:22,100
Thank you for not, you know, 
Monday morning quarterbacking, 

1886
01:39:22,100 --> 01:39:25,200
my Google sheet skills. 
You can always join us in the 

1887
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,000
ship chasing Discord. 
If you guys become you to 

1888
01:39:28,000 --> 01:39:32,500
members, I also did a VIP stream
for YouTube members on Friday 

1889
01:39:32,500 --> 01:39:33,900
night. 
Just me and Liam we went two 

1890
01:39:33,900 --> 01:39:36,800
hours, talking best ball, bunch 
of fun stuff and there's good, 

1891
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:38,500
there's a good stream. 
Thank you. 

1892
01:39:38,500 --> 01:39:39,600
Yeah. 
So if you guys are you to 

1893
01:39:39,600 --> 01:39:42,600
members, you can find that under
the membership tab but It was 

1894
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:45,800
great, chopping it up with Ron 
Blair and JJ will see what we 

1895
01:39:45,800 --> 01:39:49,000
have in store for you guys. 
Next week, have a great week, 

1896
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:51,100
good luck, and all your mock 
drafts out there. 

1897
01:39:51,300 --> 01:39:53,300
Don't forget. 
It is, tied in premium.