1 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:04,640 Hi there. I'm Mike Show. 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:08,119 Hello from Hoth. Sun is out just north of Buffalo 3 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:11,240 today, but the world here is an ice rink and it's a cold wind, 4 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:14,720 so we'll keep it inside. We'll talk last year's rookie 5 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:16,120 running backs. What to do? 6 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:19,680 You're Marshawn Lloyd's Braylon Allen estimate. 7 00:00:20,440 --> 00:00:22,040 Ray Davis. Is there some rule of thumb 8 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:25,040 here? Get into Travis Hunter and talk 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:26,960 some Niners and Chiefs receivers. 10 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,480 Pete in for Pat today. Do we give Pete a chance to 11 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,440 breathe off his two hour stream that he's just completed the 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:36,160 best ball breakfast? I don't think so. 13 00:00:36,160 --> 00:00:39,280 He he knows what to do Our heroes Pete in for Pat Davis 14 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:41,120 Maddock. I'm Mike thanks for being along. 15 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:47,560 ADP chasing Monday, February 17th, 2025 ADP chasing is for 16 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,840 when you watch ship chase and you go these guys are just 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,400 football guys and the targets for outrun leagues. 18 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,240 That's going to be really nice actually back in if it's 19 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:55,600 Austinet. Let's stare into our crystal 20 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,960 ball. Close your eyes, you know. 21 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,200 All your entries are going to lose. 22 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:01,240 Anyway, yeah, that's. Fair. 23 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:02,560 This is a Deuce von show. It's. 24 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:05,440 Anti cabal. It's anti the best ball thought 25 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,560 leader. I'm obviously lying to some 26 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,160 degree because like, I have a lot of both of these guys. 27 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,720 It's the most disgusting. Thing you can make but man 28 00:01:18,040 --> 00:01:24,920 someone maxed out the war room. It's only, it's only four. 29 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:26,720 You, you did it. You, you did it. 30 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:31,600 You did it in a week. I know amazing feet of strength. 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,400 You know what, that actually reminded me because that's the 32 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:38,440 one contest that's close to filling and I just did my first 33 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:39,280 two. I might have to. 34 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,560 I was. Going to say I I. 35 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:42,680 Got to hop in force close right now. 36 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:47,080 Yeah, or 1 fast one. Right now I can't join though. 37 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:50,040 I can't join. I would never multitask during a 38 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,640 show on these airwaves unlike maybe another one of these Co 39 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:56,240 hosts. I mean how dare anyone come to 40 00:01:56,240 --> 00:02:00,760 the sanctity of the ship chasing channel and God forbid be doing 41 00:02:00,760 --> 00:02:03,080 anything else at the same time. I am going to go do these slows 42 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:04,240 before I forget. Thank you. 43 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:08,680 Peter Yeah, I if you guys want in, I'm in the next 4 war rooms. 44 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,160 You can watch me flounder around there in the slow drafts. 45 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,920 Why I didn't say pulled one back after, you know, making this 46 00:02:16,920 --> 00:02:18,400 announcement, if only had one more bullet. 47 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:24,920 Pete Kelly, Stauffer, Colorado State, 6th overall in the 87 48 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:26,640 draft. Quarterback, your quarterbacks, 49 00:02:26,640 --> 00:02:28,040 Colorado State there's not a lot. 50 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,120 Stauffer, Moses. Moreno. 51 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:35,120 Bradley, Danny. Bradley Van Pelt, Stauffer, 52 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,000 Saint Louis Cardinals. I know that was a thing. 53 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,160 Didn't sign. Played a little bit for Seattle, 54 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:41,560 but that's about the best you can do there. 55 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,640 It's not your team, but it's your state, so. 56 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,800 Yeah, for people who don't know, Mike's referencing, at the end 57 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,000 of my basketball breakfast, I took Tori Horton and it was 58 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:53,440 revealed to me that he was a Colorado State alum. 59 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:57,040 And so then I had to go through the history of Story, Colorado 60 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,400 State of Love, which basically boils down to Trey McBride and 61 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,320 Michael. Gallup No, there was a guy. 62 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:04,440 There was a guy before Gallup, too. 63 00:03:04,920 --> 00:03:06,720 Who? All right, now I gotta go. 64 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,680 Well, Rashad Higgins was the other one. 65 00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:11,640 That's that's who it was. Who was he was like good, you 66 00:03:11,640 --> 00:03:15,240 won the Belitnikov and. I I was gonna say that I by 67 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:17,520 good, I met good in a Rhodovisian sense where 68 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,000 theoretically he was good and could have been good, but then 69 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:23,920 chose not to be good in the NFL. See I'm trying to really fill in 70 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:27,400 for Pat by like reminiscing and naming just random guys from 71 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,480 yesteryear so. I Ole BC Johnson Ole BC Johnson 72 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,400 famously, famously started over Justin Jefferson in the first 73 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:35,960 two games of Justin Jefferson's career. 74 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:40,240 I'll give you a fairly obscure name from yesteryear we can talk 75 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,560 about. Amari Cooper didn't go to 76 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:45,560 Colorado State. But Pete, you were just saying 77 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,120 like his ADP is wild. You mean way too high. 78 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:52,920 Well, yeah, I mean, I passed on him like 20 picks past ADP. 79 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:57,000 It's just like Amari Cooper was like losing snaps to back haul. 80 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:00,560 It's like in the playoffs and I I got to draft him for Week 17 81 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:02,520 and 20. 20 He did. He did. 82 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,240 He did get a target on the highest leverage snap of the 83 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,560 Buffalo Bills season, though. Third. 84 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:09,760 And 10. Famously, famously did did get 85 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:11,960 targeted on 3rd and 10? This is what? 86 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:14,360 You think is? A streamer I know, Davis has 87 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,120 uttered these same words, and I will utter it. 88 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:20,760 If Amari Cooper is what beats me in 2025, that's so be it. 89 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:22,560 Sometimes you gotta just tip your cap. 90 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:29,520 You cannot, you actually cannot, cover every multiverse of the 91 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,920 National Football League in 150 big board drafts. 92 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:33,160 You have to. You have to make some tough 93 00:04:33,160 --> 00:04:36,640 choices. Amari Cooper, who a year younger 94 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:41,680 crushed us in 2023-2024, he goes to Josh Allen's team and leaves 95 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,880 Joe Flacco's team and we get buried. 96 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,000 And that play was a pass behind the line of scrimmage because 97 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,520 that's all the Bills could do by the end of the season is throw 98 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:50,720 the ball sideways. Weird. 99 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,240 So what? What is your actual like boots 100 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,160 on the ground, bills under the microscope take on Amari Cooper? 101 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,800 Like would you, would you take him in a draft? 102 00:05:00,840 --> 00:05:06,640 No, not to play for the Bills, but I think there is, I think 103 00:05:06,640 --> 00:05:10,080 there is some chance of that. Talking to Mike Giannitti of 104 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:14,680 Spot Track last week on WGR, he's like, look, Nope, the the 105 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,160 wide receiver free agent class is bad. 106 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:20,760 I mean, it's very dusty. So what happens? 107 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,480 But teams have needs they want, they want receivers. 108 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:27,200 And you have Cooper and Diggs and Hopkins and Brandon Cooks 109 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,720 and Mike Williams and so on. So he he said to me, I don't 110 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,440 know if he was, it was a throwaway line, but he said 111 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:36,400 15,000,000 a year for Cooper. Oh my God, I'll take the under 112 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:41,560 if I, if there's, if there is a, if there is a market on that or, 113 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,680 or the team that does it is going to be like the like I, you 114 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,560 know what, maybe the Raiders would give him $15 million a 115 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:51,440 year. Just just come full circle. 116 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,000 Yeah, bring it back home. Just bring it all the way back 117 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,920 around, you know, go back to our, our, our, our glory days. 118 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,000 Was he other Gruden ever? No. 119 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:06,720 No, he looked like they have this. 120 00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:09,680 There was this wrist injury that the bill cited. 121 00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,960 You know, he could have had surgery. 122 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:13,520 Well, what's that? You could always have surgery. 123 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,360 But he didn't. Yeah. 124 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,840 And he just, they didn't ever get him off down the field. 125 00:06:20,840 --> 00:06:24,280 Like it just did not happen. So there's some thinking here 126 00:06:24,280 --> 00:06:26,560 that they would want him back because they made the trade for 127 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,560 him and they think they thought they needed somebody, but I 128 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:30,520 don't know. It didn't work. 129 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:32,960 So I'd once. I'd rather see them. 130 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:36,560 Do you know something else? But he probably plays in the 131 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,480 league. Yeah, he'll play like Allen 132 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,320 Robinson. Still technically plays Allen 133 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,040 Robinson. You know, famously number one 134 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:49,320 overall wide receiver scoring in 2016, the Bortles year, still 135 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:51,560 technically a player in the league. 136 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,360 So what are you guys doing anything? 137 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,480 And so I just had a, a Josh Allen team that I drafted. 138 00:06:57,480 --> 00:07:00,080 I missed out on Shakira, I drafted Keon Coleman and then I 139 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:02,600 I did take Ray Davis, but like, are there any other pass 140 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,520 catchers that you're taking late for the build? 141 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,960 Kincaid dude. Kincaid is is like the is a 12th 142 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,800 round pick. He was 7th amongst tight ends in 143 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,080 targets per outrun. You bet Streamy with Liam too 144 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,080 much. How do you make? 145 00:07:14,080 --> 00:07:17,560 Up, Kincaid pilled it. It's because this is always what 146 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,280 people do. People are always too emotional. 147 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,400 The thing they they just most recently saw, and they just saw 148 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:26,200 him cost his team a game. And so they're like, that guy 149 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,520 stinks. Could you could you argue that 150 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,440 people were too unemotional with Kyle Pitts's ADP? 151 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:36,000 Yes, yes you could. I'd argue there may be still 152 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:37,480 being a little bit not. Emotional. 153 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,800 That would have been a good one to be pretty emotional about. 154 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Fair. Very fair. 155 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,880 The Bills always think about like, what's the team's 156 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:47,400 incentive? It's early in the offseason. 157 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:52,640 There's probably will be to get that right with Kincaid. 158 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:56,160 They think he's talented. Season high for the year. 53 159 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,480 yards, 2 touchdowns. Totally as 5 touchdowns in 34 160 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,840 career games, including playoffs. 161 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:06,400 Their incentive with him will be to use him as cost controlled 162 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,120 labor and then not pick up his fifth year option. 163 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,360 Well, they're not going to lead the draft at pick 30 with 164 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,120 another pass catcher because they just did that two years in 165 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,320 a row and kind of ended up nowhere with Kincaid and then 166 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,960 Keon Coleman. So I mean, it's not going to be 167 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,880 Amari Cooper who's going to be like, this is somebody else 168 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,400 there. Kincaid's on the field, 169 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:28,680 Coleman's on the field. I think Mac Hollins comes back. 170 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:31,520 But Samuel, I would like Samuel for you in their dress. 171 00:08:32,520 --> 00:08:34,760 Samuel. He's under contract, they're not 172 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,240 getting rid of him. And you know, he, you know, what 173 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,320 do you believe? Like he got hurt in August and 174 00:08:40,799 --> 00:08:44,039 was maybe never right, but kind of his whole career. 175 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,400 Yeah, it is. It is so hard just 176 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:52,800 philosophically to select an older veteran in the late rounds 177 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:55,200 of these drafts and not just take the mystery box wide 178 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:56,520 receiver. And when I say mystery box, for 179 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,280 me it is a true mystery box. I was going to say Peter's like 180 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,400 Tori Horton. Horton hears a what? 181 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:07,200 Tori Horne like a Hall of Famer next to Curtis Samuel. 182 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,920 I'm using, I'm using Davis's rankings when I'm drafting. 183 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:15,880 You want to know how much restrepo I have? 184 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:17,720 It's a, it's a. It's a lot. 185 00:09:18,560 --> 00:09:21,160 Except I don't even that's the so that's The thing is I don't 186 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:23,320 even like Xavier Restrepo in the hierarchy. 187 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,760 It's just that the 8 the the the base ADP. 188 00:09:26,800 --> 00:09:29,920 I'm assuming because there are so many people auto drafting or 189 00:09:29,920 --> 00:09:35,440 using ETR ranks, the base ADP is so bad that you're you're 190 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,920 sitting there. Amari Cooper's ADP is not 191 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,200 moving. DeAndre Hopkins ADP not moving. 192 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:42,800 These these guys who I think are are probably close to 193 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,520 undraftable, like probably should not be in the top 250. 194 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:50,320 Yeah. It's just, it's just so hard to 195 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,640 what what do you do with that in your rankings? 196 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:55,520 Like I basically have like Amari Cooper and DeAndre Hopkins 40 197 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,480 spots behind rankings or behind their behind their ADP. 198 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:00,520 Frozen for you, Davis. I don't know where. 199 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:01,760 Where did I go? Where did? 200 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:05,320 I go you, you have the most YouTube face freeze frame right 201 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,840 now. You just have to. 202 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,680 You just have to click and restart your your. 203 00:10:08,680 --> 00:10:13,200 Video. Yeah, man. 204 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,720 So I'll have to get it back on the playback, but that's gonna 205 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,920 definitely have to be a screenshot there. 206 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:23,680 Yeah, that is really good. But so, well, I'm running into 207 00:10:23,680 --> 00:10:28,400 this at tight end Peter where I just continually take Gunner 208 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,440 helm or Mason Taylor or Elijah Arroyo is my tight end 3. 209 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:34,120 And I'm like, I don't even know if that's good or not. 210 00:10:34,560 --> 00:10:37,560 Like, how do you how do you balance that of like this price 211 00:10:37,560 --> 00:10:40,320 is clearly good and is gonna change in best ball mania. 212 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:44,720 But at the same time, how do you balance out Chigakanquo, who I 213 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:48,720 know stinks and is not gonna help me versus Gunner Helm, who 214 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,760 probably is gonna stink and not help me, but is also gonna be a 215 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,360 second run pick in the NFL draft. 216 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,880 I I actually don't know what how to balance that. 217 00:10:56,280 --> 00:11:00,160 I think it is it's it has to be the hardest for tight end, 218 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:04,320 right, because it's such a like opportunity on the field driven 219 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:07,360 thing. And also it's a very hard thing 220 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:10,000 to project for for a draft class. 221 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:12,400 So you have like all these variables that could just like 222 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:15,720 literally any tight end you take late could just be a stone cold 223 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:17,680 0. Like every single one of those 224 00:11:17,680 --> 00:11:21,160 guys after like pick 160 has 0 within their rage of outcomes. 225 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:22,760 So you're like, do I take the upside? 226 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,080 Do I take the guy who I think is going to be on the field but 227 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,600 might not earn targets? It doesn't feel fun clicking 228 00:11:27,600 --> 00:11:31,200 tight ends late. I think there are a couple of 229 00:11:31,280 --> 00:11:34,800 younger veterans as opposed to rookies that are interesting. 230 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:38,680 I think the Tavion Sanders is really interesting and maybe 231 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:42,960 Theo Johnson a little bit he. Had that foot injury, but yeah, 232 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,840 I mean Theo Johnson was was basically Chica conquel like he 233 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,520 was just on the field for 80% of the snaps. 234 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:54,160 Never got the ball, but lots of guys never get the ball at tight 235 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:55,840 end. That's that's why someone like 236 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:59,080 Kincaid is Val even though we all know we all know Kincaid is 237 00:11:59,080 --> 00:12:02,000 bad. No one, no one listening to this 238 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,160 podcast is under any aspersion. The dog Kincaid is like an above 239 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:07,560 average set up, but he gets the ball I. 240 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,560 Don't know if he watches but. The one the thing that was weird 241 00:12:11,560 --> 00:12:14,720 about his season. I mean, Allen, nobody's 242 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:21,800 infallible, but the unpatchable passes rate to Kincaid or just 243 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,240 missed targets, I mean, it went down to something like 53%. 244 00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:29,560 He had an injury too. Like they're just the timing was 245 00:12:29,560 --> 00:12:32,360 different with Kincaid than almost anybody else Alan has had 246 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:34,840 in the last four years. Not as not good. 247 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,040 Nick just said a really interesting name that the guy I 248 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,880 think is is getting under drafted. 249 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:47,440 Kasiki, I think that Burroughs comments, he he put or he put 250 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:50,840 Gesicki in the same category as Jamar Chase and T Higgins. 251 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:52,400 He was like, I want my guys back. 252 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,960 I want TI want Mike, which is like, I don't think of Mike 253 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,880 Gesicki that way, but that's pretty interesting. 254 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:03,120 Not to mention Kisiki's target splits without T Higgins on the 255 00:13:03,120 --> 00:13:07,600 field last year were gaudy. Like he was the the 1B behind 256 00:13:07,600 --> 00:13:10,440 Chase when Higgins was out and then even when he did return 257 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,440 down the stretch he was like a big part of the offense. 258 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:14,440 I like that call. What? 259 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:18,600 What is his ABP? Free 19th, 19th, 20th round. 260 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,480 He he goes. It's like I'm choosing between 261 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:24,600 him or Mason Taylor Gunner helm most of the time. 262 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:28,600 Yeah, Mason, Taylor, Pete. He's back who I just took. 263 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,240 They said in the chat he's Jason Taylor's son. 264 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:33,720 That's that I did learn that fun fact. 265 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,960 Is he really that OK? Well, is nepotism back? 266 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Is nepotism kind of led me down a bad Rd. last year. 267 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,880 So I'm wondering, I'm wondering if we if we need to be back in 268 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:47,800 on nepotism. Chader. 269 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:57,280 I like Chader more than the ball watching Cabal because he's 270 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,840 going to do something that most rookie quarterbacks can't do. 271 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:03,360 He's just very accurate. This is very hard for rookie. 272 00:14:03,560 --> 00:14:07,760 He just is going to complete a lot of passes which. 273 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:09,880 What? What have you been getting to 274 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:11,960 any of the rookie quarterbacks in drafts? 275 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:15,400 Yeah, I got the ward. Yeah, Ward is good. 276 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,440 It's just that it's so hard for me to be like, you know, what 277 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,120 I'm going to do in the third round, Just not going to take 278 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,680 Mike Evans. I'm going to take a quarterback. 279 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:26,000 So like I just am always, I'm just always scrambling for a 280 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,000 quarterback. So like I have Pete. 281 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,920 My most drafted player is a player you have probably not 282 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,320 heard of yet. Jack Jackson Dart is right now 283 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,800 my most drafted player in in the big board because I'm just like 284 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,800 pretty sure he's going to be Kenny Pickett. 285 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:45,800 Kenny Pickett's rookie year in the 20th round. 286 00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:50,440 I'll take it. And then like just hoping that 287 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,360 he has like a bow Nix like season. 288 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,680 I mean, that's the yes, that's the comp is is Nix. 289 00:14:56,080 --> 00:15:00,440 Who drafts him at what price like Seattle is interesting for 290 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:02,800 a mid to late first round young quarterback. 291 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,440 The Rams might be if they move on or even if they don't. 292 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:07,440 But is that is the quarterback on the field? 293 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:12,480 What about the New York footballing Jets at Pick 6? 294 00:15:13,320 --> 00:15:14,720 Well, OK, I mean, if that happens. 295 00:15:15,360 --> 00:15:17,800 That is, that is my current, that is the moon shot. 296 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:22,440 That is, that is my if, if that hits, then then I'll be winning. 297 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,440 Dustin Norton just said Tyler Shuck in chat. 298 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:30,120 Guys, I just, I, I just for the record, maybe you guys don't 299 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:31,800 watch a ton of college football or whatever. 300 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:38,760 No, he's 26 years old, never had more than 3100 passing yards. 53 301 00:15:38,760 --> 00:15:42,200 career touchdowns to 26 career interceptions is not happening. 302 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:47,240 How the Shuck is not happening? I mean, isn't it funny? 303 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,400 I feel like we do the same song and and by by we, I mean kind of 304 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:53,720 like the draft net community, the mock draft community of 305 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,000 every year. These quarterbacks, the non 306 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,080 elite prospects, they're like, I have a great around two grade on 307 00:15:59,080 --> 00:16:01,080 them. They're not first round picks. 308 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,880 And then the NFL teams eventually say to fuck with your 309 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,520 grade A franchise quarterback is all that matters. 310 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:10,280 And even if it has only a 30% chance of hitting, we're going 311 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:13,160 to take this guy with pick 10. Like, doesn't that happen every 312 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,040 year? I mean, haven't Knicks, Knicks 313 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:16,840 and Pennix? Yeah, that's what I mean. 314 00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:20,880 And that also goes both ways because if Levis or Malik 315 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:25,200 Willis, who were like early draft process first round 316 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,280 hopefuls, even like the day of the draft, both guys, both those 317 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,680 guys were getting top five hype the day of their respective 318 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,760 drafts and teams didn't even bother in the first round and 319 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:38,480 look at their careers. So Russell Wilson is the 320 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:40,080 exception. But if it doesn't happen in the 321 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,480 first round, you're you're a long shot. 322 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:47,880 Yeah, yeah. And and that the draft Knicks 323 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,120 are saying this shit like Todd Mcshay has a draftable grade on 324 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,920 on Chuck Dane Bruegler has a draftable grade on him. 325 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:58,840 But like, I don't know, man. I watch a lot of football in my 326 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:00,760 life. I'm I'm not obviously a scout or 327 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:04,040 anything, but like very hard for me to imagine that guy 328 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:08,440 translating and NFL teams are so woke now to take a 26 year old 329 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,240 quarterback. I think the interesting 330 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:15,480 quarterbacks are the veterans that are in that same range 331 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:19,480 free. That's well Daniel Jones, like 332 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,440 with the number of teams that need starters, does somebody 333 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,160 what what should The Jets do? Should The Jets reach on 334 00:17:25,160 --> 00:17:28,359 Jackson, Dart or Millroe? No, they well, maybe, maybe they 335 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:29,760 should, but. No, The Jets. 336 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,160 Definitely, if they do not take a rookie quarterback in this 337 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,360 class, they, they're all, everyone in the front office 338 00:17:34,360 --> 00:17:36,800 should be fired. Even if they stink, even if it's 339 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,600 around. Like if if Jalen Millroe is on 340 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,000 the clock for them in the third round and they don't take him, 341 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,800 they should just all immediately be fired because the 1 1/2 342 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:50,440 percent chance that Melrose and NFL starter could reinvigorate 343 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:53,640 the entire franchise. Well, I was going to say, isn't 344 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:55,480 that even the only way to save face? 345 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:58,000 After this failed campaign of going all in as a Super Bowl? 346 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,560 The only thing you can sell your fan base on is hope. 347 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,360 And what's the one way to do that with a rookie quarterback? 348 00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:06,720 That could be anything like other than like if you're trying 349 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:09,800 to run back some like dusty thing, like man, you're, you're 350 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,680 going to lose so much goodwill as if they haven't already lost 351 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:14,960 it. Does the coach, does the coach 352 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,040 have time for it right, If the guy just needs a lot, does Aaron 353 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,640 Glenn? Depends on sort of who the guy 354 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:25,040 is I guess, But Daniel Jones, not The Jets. 355 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,520 Tyrod Taylor will never get drafted in the big board. 356 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,480 The the funniest moment it's this is a tough one because 357 00:18:31,480 --> 00:18:34,600 there were so many funny moments with The Jets Season for me was 358 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:39,520 in Buffalo week 1740 to nothing in the third quarter. 359 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,200 The bills weren't even good like defensively they were kind of in 360 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,600 shambles. 40 to nothing. Rogers get sacked for a safety 361 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,960 picks all of it. They take them out at 40 to 362 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,360 nothing. Taylor goes in touchdown 363 00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:51,840 touchdown. Yep. 364 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:58,800 And so his his career since he left Buffalo was starting for 365 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:00,600 somebody until their rookie is ready. 366 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,680 I don't know if he's if that makes him draftable in this, the 367 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,200 odds are against it, but he's interesting to me trying to 368 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,680 predict who the starting quarterbacks will be. 369 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:11,680 I mean, Darnold will start for somebody. 370 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:15,400 I don't know about Jones, maybe not Taylor, but there are more 371 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:19,400 teams that need guys than that. I believe Daniel Jones signed an 372 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,680 extension with Minnesota. I'm trying to look it up. 373 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,560 Spotrac just put Daniel Jones's contract page behind the 374 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:29,920 paywall, which I've never, I've never ran into the paywall on 375 00:19:29,920 --> 00:19:32,120 Spotrac before. So now I'm gonna look at Daniel 376 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:34,760 Jones over the cap. But I I'm trying to. 377 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,360 That might be the most flattering moment of Daniel 378 00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:40,400 Jones's career for Sportrac to put me behind the paywall 379 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,480 because everyone was interested in my contract. 380 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:46,200 I and he is not. So Daniel Jones is a free agent. 381 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:48,800 I mean, you could certainly see Daniel Jones starting for the, 382 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,440 for the Raiders or whatever. I mean, it's very, it's very 383 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:57,240 hard to say, but I mean Russell Wilson, I don't know who, but, 384 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,640 but Russell Wilson's starting for someone, probably not the 385 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:01,920 Steelers. Could could be the Raiders, 386 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,560 could be The Jets. I mean, he, he's starting for 387 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,680 some. I would say he's more likely to 388 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:10,400 start than Rogers is. Like I now that Rogers is done 389 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,920 with The Jets. I am. 390 00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:14,920 I'm done taking Rogers. I think I took him once with 391 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:20,000 Garrett Wilson or something. But I am, yeah, Rogers is is 392 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:21,760 unlikely to play. So I assume if you're not 393 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:23,840 taking, you said you're not taking much of the early 394 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,000 quarterbacks, I assume you have a ton of three QB builds. 395 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:28,720 Almost. Almost exclusively, yeah. 396 00:20:28,720 --> 00:20:33,120 Because like you look, I mean, it's a little bit of a, a 397 00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:35,880 fallacy that our brain draws these really easy lines of like, 398 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,680 well, shit, I got no idea which wide receiver is the right one 399 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:41,960 to take here. But I know Russell Wilson, 400 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:44,880 Jackson Dart, Kirk Cousins, these guys are at least going to 401 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:47,400 be getting points. They're at least going to be 402 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,800 going to be on the field. Yeah, I although, I mean, 403 00:20:50,800 --> 00:20:53,600 couldn't you, there's still fragility with those guys as far 404 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:58,360 as starting and like, like you can't guarantee 17 games once 405 00:20:58,360 --> 00:20:59,760 you get to that range of the draft. 406 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,600 No, you can't guarantee 17 games and obviously you can't 407 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,880 guarantee that they're there in the money weeks either. 408 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:11,640 But they are. They are, I think, much more 409 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:16,600 likely to add points to my roster than Darius Slayton is. 410 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:20,800 You know, Darius Slayton could easily like, not sign a contract 411 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,120 I think. What's your what's your 412 00:21:23,120 --> 00:21:26,160 percentage split of two tight ends versus 3 tight ends? 413 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,200 Pretty heavy on three. It's like 3683 is like the the 414 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,280 the meta. You just move the two extra 415 00:21:35,280 --> 00:21:39,240 roster spots that the big board gives you into into quarterback 416 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,000 in tight end. That's generally what I would 417 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,720 like to. I mean, like today I did A2 418 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,200 quarterback team, Allen and Stroud, and then I did A2 tight 419 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,000 end team Kittle in Ingram. Or maybe I tacked on Mason 420 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:52,440 Taylor. Actually I did tack on Mason 421 00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,440 Taylor. So yeah, I the two quarterbacks 422 00:21:54,440 --> 00:21:57,720 is tough, but I think with Allen up top it was probably fine. 423 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,880 I mean, dude, the bye week Bros are gonna come for you before 424 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:03,640 the bye weeks even begin. They're gonna be like, dude, 425 00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:05,800 aren't you worried? Aren't you worried? 426 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,160 Your double elite quarterback build, They're both gonna have 427 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,160 the same buy. Aren't you worried, Peter? 428 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,600 And you might. Who is your Who is your most 429 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,080 drafted player through however many drafts you've done? 430 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,880 I'm pretty sure it's Jackson Dart. 431 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,800 It might be. It might be Kendra Miller. 432 00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:23,520 Oh, but it's his prize. I didn't even see him on the 433 00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:27,240 board today when I was drafting. He is the running back. 60 434 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:34,560 drafts completed, most drafted player. 435 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:41,160 No, it's Xavier worthy. Xavier Worthy. 436 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:44,760 Laquint Allen, Jackson Dart, Kendra Miller, Ollie Gordon are 437 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,520 all my players that I have over 30% of. 438 00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:52,600 There it goes. There it goes, Xavier worthy. 439 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:58,760 Some things might never die. No, I mean, he's Xavier. 440 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:02,000 Look, I like Jackson Smith and Jake, but man, he, he, he 441 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,720 shouldn't. He shouldn't be going after 442 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:08,440 Worthy. Yeah, I mean the Xavier Worthy's 443 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,520 awesome. I I do think like the projection 444 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,520 things are going to probably break in JS NS favor more than 445 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,600 they will and Worthy's depending on how the Rice's thing rice 446 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:21,000 thing shakes out. But Worthy definitely has a 447 00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,040 higher ceiling. Well, that is that is inside the 448 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:30,120 that's inside big board. Is that the reporting on Rashi 449 00:23:30,120 --> 00:23:34,400 Rice's injury has been bad. Like all the all the updates 450 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:37,400 Hayden actually shout out, shout out my boy. 451 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:43,720 Hayden winks did some research on LCL and PCL tears and they're 452 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,400 it's pretty bad actually. It's like it's like a harder 453 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:49,640 recovery than ACL. And remember, they delayed the 454 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,920 surgery like a month because they, they, I think they, they 455 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:57,480 thought, oh, he's gonna be back for the playoffs. 456 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,720 And then turns out, no, he, he definitely was not back. 457 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,240 This, this Whittington rise. I mean, this is as bad as it 458 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:08,560 gets man. Yeah, Mike, you're, you're back 459 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:09,880 here. Why don't you you take us 460 00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:12,360 through, We just pulled up some of the we started talking about 461 00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:14,120 ADP. So I figure let's get into some 462 00:24:14,120 --> 00:24:16,480 of these biggest risers and David's just mentioned Xavier 463 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,200 Worthy. The steam might be coming from 464 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,480 inside the house here with this ADP. 465 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:26,280 Yeah, but I I'm buying in on worthy. 466 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:31,560 I mean, hey, Davis, Davis. Well, am I allowed to say it was 467 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,120 broadcast the Brian Thomas junior comp from last week. 468 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,040 Highly controversial, but. Yeah, no, people did not like 469 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:40,080 that, man. People. 470 00:24:40,120 --> 00:24:42,440 People really did not like what if. 471 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:45,120 What if Xavier Worthy just had the same target profile as Brian 472 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:48,720 Thomas Junior, which maybe was more likely than I think people 473 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,520 want to say. The question is, again, sort of 474 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,880 borrowing from you, is Kansas City now after that loss, ready 475 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,520 to get serious and really after the whole season And that it's a 476 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,120 pretty good starting point if Rice gets healthy with Worthy 477 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:08,040 and Rice and maybe, you know, there's a Hollywood Brown or 478 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,800 someone else, Devante Adams, you know, whoever else might get 479 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,280 added to that. But do they, did they learn a 480 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,760 lesson from this year? I don't know the answer to that. 481 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,280 I mean, they won the one seed 15 games under Super Bowl. 482 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,280 Maybe they throw their hands up and say Philadelphia was just 483 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:25,800 too good. But we'd want from the Chiefs to 484 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,560 sort of get back to who they used to be. 485 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,320 And if that happens, and if Kelsey's done, then Worthy is in 486 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:33,520 a great spot for what, fourth round? 487 00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,920 I mean, the thing with Worthy and with the Chiefs in general 488 00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:40,880 is like, I don't think they ever were Like, you know what, let's 489 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:42,560 just Dick around as much as possible. 490 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,320 It was literally just trying to survive. 491 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,000 Andy Reid spends all offseason designing this offense. 492 00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,960 Week one of the pre season Hollywood Brown, who I think 493 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,320 from the four games he played and we can clearly extrapolate 494 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,000 was supposed to be a big part of the offense. 495 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,920 Injuries, his shoulder. They're like, OK, he's gonna 496 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,680 he's gonna be back in week one. Oh no, season ending surgery, 497 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,920 not gonna be back. OK, we're gonna build the whole 498 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,040 offense out of Rushy Rice while Xavier Worthy is kind of getting 499 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:08,400 up. Nope. 500 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,920 Rushy Rice, our quarterback, a detonated nuclear bomb in his 501 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,360 knee. Guess we got to replace that. 502 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,600 OK, we're going to be a running team with Pacheco. 503 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,400 We're going to play P Ryan on 3rd downs. 504 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:20,360 We're going to use this Carson Steele guy for sure. 505 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,600 Oh, Nope, Isaiah Pacheco broke his leg. 506 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,320 OK, we drafted this, this rookie left tackle where our our pass 507 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:28,320 protection's going to be better. We solved the problem spot. 508 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,920 Nope. He's the worst left tackle in 509 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:31,880 the NFL. We got to move a guard to left 510 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,960 tackle. I I think the sliding doors of 511 00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:37,040 all that stuff, it was just like they, they were just trying to 512 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,040 breathe, man. They, they were literally just 513 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,040 trying to get to the next week. And if they are just kind of 514 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,400 more healthy as a group, I think it's going to look a bunch a lot 515 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,960 more serious. I I wonder what their post game 516 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:52,920 coaches meetings would have sounded like week after week. 517 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:56,560 Beating Carolina on a field goal at the gun, beating Denver on 518 00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,920 the block field goal, beating the Raiders when the quarterback 519 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,680 wasn't ready for the snap. You know, Reed's in there with a 520 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,680 cigar on his feet up. Like, are you guys kidding me? 521 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,800 Is this is this real? Like we can't, we can't lose. 522 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,880 Like we're we're not doing anything and we just literally 523 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,760 cannot lose. And then they get the bye. 524 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,240 They get week week 18 off. They get the bye, they get the 525 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,840 Texans and they get a Bills team that can't figure out how to how 526 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,680 to finish. They come up with two or three 527 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,960 plays that they weren't ready for and they win again. 528 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:28,120 And then Philadelphia seemed like maybe that should have been 529 00:27:28,120 --> 00:27:29,720 obvious. Like, I like Philly big in that 530 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,080 game. But yeah, we'd love as fantasy. 531 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,080 We'd love to see the Chiefs kind of get real next year. 532 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:38,200 And again, Worthy is in as good a spot to benefit from that as 533 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,960 anybody easily. Yeah. 534 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,440 So the the Xavier where the ADP rise? 535 00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:48,840 That's very self-explanatory. Dude exploded down the stretch, 536 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:53,720 exploded in the Super Bowl. These Niners AD PS I assume this 537 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,360 is all related to Debo Samuel potentially moving on. 538 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,280 And, and a report from The Athletic, I think on February 539 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,200 5th that Brandon Iuke's ACL recovery, he's like very 540 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:07,800 unlikely to be ready for week one. 541 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,680 That that, that the team and IU, they said they, I think, I 542 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,440 forget the exact wording. I think it was like it'd be a 543 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,560 pleasant surprise if he was back by week one or they're not 544 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:21,800 expecting him to to be back week 1 or whatever. 545 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,600 So sounds like they're 11 personnel to start the year. 546 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,560 Jawan Jennings, Ricky Pearsall, and perhaps Jacob Cowling. 547 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,040 Maybe old friend of the show Chris Conley. 548 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,320 But yeah, it sounds like, sounds like much more targets available 549 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:39,000 for these two. Are you guys off Iuke like early 550 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,880 7th? I don't think I am. 551 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:45,720 And I I was never an Iuke guy to begin with, but it's like 552 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,400 fantasy football is a tough game. 553 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,000 So you just kind of try and avoid the guys who are already 554 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,040 hurt. That's just kind of my it 555 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,000 doesn't always work. Breece Hall, right? 556 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,600 Guy who was already hurt, he came back was a League 1 doesn't 557 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,400 always work. That's kind of my general 558 00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:02,960 philosophy. I mean, I've like, I have been 559 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:06,240 the IU guy. I mean, this late career Jawan 560 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,960 Jennings breakout, Ricky Pearsall looking like he's 561 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,960 really good. George Kittle's not going away. 562 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,480 CMC is going to still vacuum up targets Like he can be a good 563 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:19,440 player and still be like a bad fantasy value because he's he's 564 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,880 not good enough to earn targets at an insane clip over those 565 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,320 other guys necessarily. So I I do think it's an issue 566 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:27,920 for him. That is fair. 567 00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:34,200 That is fair. They did pay him, so they should 568 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,520 want. And what are they going to do 569 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:36,920 with Purdy? They're probably going to end up 570 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:38,720 paying Purdy. They should want. 571 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:41,680 To they're going to pay Purdy. He's going to get the the GDP of 572 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,960 a small Central African nation for sure. 573 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:50,000 So Davis Whittington is bad? What's it like? 574 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,120 In relation to. The Whittington Cooper Cup 575 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,160 getting the Cooper Cup wanting to get traded. 576 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,200 So here's the deal with Whittington. 577 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:01,960 Really strong yards per route run. 578 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,080 In a small sample last year it was like 202 routes. 579 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,280 It's like 2.25 yards per hour run, which is pretty strong. 580 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,880 I actually liked him. I was drafting him last year. 581 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,240 So I'm like, OK, could theoretically be the third guy, 582 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,520 ended up being DeMarcus Robinson being the third guy. 583 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:23,520 But you've got two layers here, the first being one. 584 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,840 Matthew Stafford might not be the quarterback of the Los 585 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,600 Angeles Rams, Greg Rosenthal, who's really plugged into the 586 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,360 Rams organization, tweeted last week. 587 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,960 It's not being talked about enough that Matthew Stafford is 588 00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:35,120 likely gone from Los Angeles Rams. 589 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:39,160 To me, that means that Les need is telling people around him 590 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,400 Stafford's gone because Rosenthal would be would be 591 00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:45,480 plugged into that. So that is pretty bad because 592 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,080 you don't want Jordan Whittington as the slot wide 593 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,480 receiver for. Jackson Dart. 594 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,680 Jackson Dart, Sam Darnold, Tyrod Taylor is kind of the tier of 595 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,840 guy that he would see in. Why would they move Stafford? 596 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,360 He he doesn't want to play there anymore. 597 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,440 And my YouTube chat told me the reason is, is that Kelly 598 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,960 Stafford is sick of it. Los Angeles that that that that 599 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:13,040 now I don't know if these people know the answer or not, but that 600 00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:15,360 is what is is been communicated to me. 601 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:16,480 I don't. I don't know if that's true or 602 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,680 not, but it sounds like Stafford wants that. 603 00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:21,480 You you see everything. Did you see her on her podcast 604 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,440 or like I'm always up for an adventure? 605 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:29,160 Not great, Not great if you want and it if you if you want 606 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,120 Stafford to be the quarterback. And an uncanny ability of 607 00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,960 working her way into the headlines as it you remember the 608 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,960 thing where she talked about sleeping with the Stafford, 609 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,840 Georgia backup quarterback, the Georgia pack, Just like, make 610 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,480 him jealous. I'm like, maybe don't air that 611 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,880 one out on a podcast. No, that was. 612 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,120 Some people can't help it. Some people can't help it, man. 613 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:56,680 It's pretty, yeah. So you just have a lot of outs 614 00:31:56,680 --> 00:32:00,400 to Jordan Whittington getting 46 receptions next year. 615 00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:05,320 I mean, I'm sure, I'm sure his ADP now is, is this 168's 616 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,880 actually like fine or whatever. But for like a couple days 617 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,400 after, it's like Pete, you know, this, this happens at BR too. 618 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:16,560 Like right after a news thing leaks, people like, oh, dude, I 619 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:17,840 got to take him in the second round. 620 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,120 So like right after the news thing, people are like, dude, 621 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,120 Jordan Whittington, if I don't take him in the 11th, I might 622 00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:24,160 not get him. So I better snap him up, right? 623 00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:25,840 And I was like, OK, I'm out at that price. 624 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,200 I think he's fine. Yeah, I mean the the range of 625 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:32,000 players going there it like it seems hard that it would be bad. 626 00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,920 And again for the for the audio listeners here, we got the 627 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,320 biggest risers graphic on screen. 628 00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:41,480 None of these monstrous moves. You know, Jennings and Piersall 629 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:43,960 both up five picks. Xavier Worthy up two picks, 630 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,680 though a little more meaningful at the earlier portion of the 631 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,680 draft. And then Whittington is up 8 632 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,960 picks from, you know, 175 to 168. 633 00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,040 So all of these are like very sweaty, underdog, newsy 634 00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,800 movements that probably don't actually put them into a range 635 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,520 that makes it bad. Davis you would think the one 636 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,760 thing I would know to do is mention like the audio listeners 637 00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,600 and read like, you know, I might just have a a temptation to call 638 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:12,040 for a break while doing that, but you know, still like that 639 00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:13,520 would be something I would know to do. 640 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,040 I gotta go I. Think what happens when you have 641 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:18,840 me as a guest is that I I can't help myself but snap you. 642 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,960 Know hosting on YouTube is a is a different gig Mike it's it's 643 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:24,640 it's not the. Same. 644 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,320 I know I'm learning that. I learned what YouTube face 645 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:31,320 meant yesterday and maybe today it happened. 646 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,680 You don't even honestly, there's no good reason for you to know 647 00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:38,280 anything about about YouTube. Honestly, keep your keep your 648 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,040 brain as sane as possible. There's no reason. 649 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:44,040 I know it through you guys and my son who's 15. 650 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,640 That's weird. I get my info. 651 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,880 Let me show you this. So Mike sent over in our discord 652 00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,920 a photo and he was like if you guys need for the thumbnails 653 00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,160 because we just have the one photo of him and me and Davis 654 00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,880 called this out as perfect YouTube face and Mike, you had 655 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,520 never even heard the term. YouTube face before. 656 00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:03,720 No, I figured it out though, at least to my credit. 657 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,640 I I YT face, I figured out what that meant. 658 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:08,600 I was right. At least I was right. 659 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:10,719 But there, this is the new one though. 660 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:13,679 This, this is this is the one from earlier today when you 661 00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,080 froze. That's definitely going to end 662 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:19,320 up on a thumbnail near you. Now I know I I'm among friends. 663 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,920 That's good YT face. YT face. 664 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:26,639 You've got another 49ers graphic if you want it. 665 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:29,520 We've kind of talked about them and then a Chiefs won and we 666 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,120 always sort of go along on the Chiefs. 667 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,760 But you know, Kelsey's future is very much in doubt. 668 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,400 Davis is Noah Gray Good? No. 669 00:34:39,199 --> 00:34:42,280 OK, that's settled. Yeah. 670 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,560 I mean, he's, he's one of these tight ends that you're, he's. 671 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,920 Durham, he's Durham Smythe, you know he's he's Gary Barnage. 672 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:51,239 If if the team really decides that he should get 87 targets, 673 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,239 then sure you you will have wanted him. 674 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:56,960 It seems unlikely, particularly because there are going to be a 675 00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,320 couple guys who are available. Particularly, I think Evan 676 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:05,040 Ingram is very likely to get cut from the Jacksonville Jaguars. 677 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:09,440 They and this has been a it's probably the number one topic of 678 00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:12,680 contention amongst best Ball big Board versions right now. 679 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,280 Who is Evan Ingram going to play for? 680 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,080 I took him and was talking about him on the Jags and boy did I 681 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,440 get put in my place. I was. 682 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,840 Going to say, dude, you can't. These people who are already 50 683 00:35:22,840 --> 00:35:26,880 big boards in man, they're they are ready to correct you on 684 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:30,880 every assumption you've made about the 20252026 NFL season. 685 00:35:31,160 --> 00:35:35,720 But it's a real 5050 because the Jaguars can save considerable 686 00:35:35,720 --> 00:35:38,440 but not franchise changing amount of money cutting him. 687 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,880 But then you have to ask yourself, OK, who are they 688 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:41,520 cutting? What? 689 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,200 What are they doing with the money they already have? 690 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,680 Gabe Davis is under contract. Christian Kirk is under 691 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:50,320 contract. Brian Thomas junior is under 692 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:51,960 contract. Brenton Strange is under 693 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,640 contract. So it's not a pass catcher 694 00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:55,440 thing. Who's the big free agent who's 695 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,680 coming to Jacksonville? OK, they got their quarterback 696 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,480 under contract. And the other thing that is 697 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,320 always so neglected in all of this is NFL restructures are 698 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,600 very common, especially if the guy's about to get cut and he 699 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,520 likes playing there. It's like, oh, Evan Ingram, I 700 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:10,680 like playing with Trevor Lawrence. 701 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,440 I I want to see what he'd probably be pretty willing to 702 00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,640 restructure as opposed to just getting outright cut. 703 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:25,560 I like the Jaguars pieces in drafts with especially without 704 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,880 Ingram. But I mean, you mentioned Kirk, 705 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,840 you're right, 13 million dead cap. 706 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,560 He had a collarbone injury. Like he's not old or anything. 707 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,080 The backs are OK Davis is there. They got nothing the first year. 708 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:44,120 But if I were Lawrence and I don't know, I'm not talking 709 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,560 about friendships or whatever. Ingram, I think holds him back 710 00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:50,760 and and he's at a point in his career where it's like, all 711 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,080 right, am I going to be good at this? 712 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,000 Am I going to be traded? Like am IA bust? 713 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,560 What is going to happen if I were his his best friend to be 714 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:00,080 like enough with the tight end, like let's go. 715 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:05,280 And so I think with Cohen, there's potential for that to, I 716 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:09,000 mean, maybe not be elite, but a lot better than what you have to 717 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,120 pay for in these drafts. A hundred 100%. 718 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,720 I think the Jaguars could very easily be the what was it the 719 00:37:17,720 --> 00:37:20,120 Buccaneers last year, the Seahawks the year before. 720 00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:25,080 Just the the offense that goes like ascends like 3 levels up 721 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,760 from where they were the season before. 722 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,240 And I would say too, like if you if you think that Evan Ingram is 723 00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:36,160 gone, like you should be slamming Christian Kirk and. 724 00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,560 Slamming. Yeah, absolutely one. 725 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,760 Yeah, yeah. Which is likely right? 726 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,920 Because I, I think Ingram's of value, even if he stays there 727 00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:46,560 just kind of with the, the personnel and they kind of just 728 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,560 like run it back. And then like it's almost like 729 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:50,920 the Gesicki thing, right? Just a few rounds earlier where 730 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:54,080 it's like Gesicki could get there for sure if T stays, but 731 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,160 it's probably a huge windfall if T leaves. 732 00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,120 So I I still like taking Ingram, even after I learned today he 733 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:05,680 might not be Cohen. Ian Kincaid are one spot away in 734 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:10,680 ADP, tight end 13 and 14 and then Isaiah Likely is tight end 735 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,800 15 and I think that's interesting. 736 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,640 That's another one where everyone has already cut Mark 737 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:21,280 Andrews, but they save about $750,000. 738 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,040 It's like nothing. The only reason literally the 739 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,400 thought process is this guy's getting cut because he dropped a 740 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,600 2 point conversion. I mean, it's really, it's just, 741 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,400 it's, it's just not any more in depth or in thought than that. 742 00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,960 It's it's Mark Andrews getting cut because he's 29 years old 743 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:37,600 and he dropped the two point conversion. 744 00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:41,880 And look, he came out and he apologized and I forgave him. 745 00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:44,640 And I said sorry. Yeah, if he didn't, I apologize 746 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:47,160 like he's off my board. But he seemed to contrite. 747 00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:52,040 And I think we're ready to go. His foundation got a lot of love 748 00:38:52,040 --> 00:38:55,000 from the Bills community, which is what we do every time. 749 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,440 Andy Dalton. Anything that ever happens on 750 00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:00,920 another team where Buffalo's involved, we, you know, flood 751 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,040 their inbox with donations, which is great. 752 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,040 So tight end 6 Andrews. So like we we started this with 753 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:11,240 the Noah Grace up, but Davis on screen here we have the chiefs 754 00:39:11,240 --> 00:39:14,840 prices. Are any of these good picks 755 00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:21,000 right now on screen? No, no, I and in fact, of the 756 00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,720 people on the screen right now, maybe only one of them will be a 757 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:26,760 starting Chiefs player next year. 758 00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,840 Like Kelsey might retire. Hunt, I assume is, is just out 759 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,880 of the NFL. Pacheco is like, you know. 760 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,640 Whatever. He's a seventh round rookie, a 761 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:43,600 seventh round guy from Rutgers. Who it was good who broke his 762 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:48,440 leg and like was like actively killing the team in their 763 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,840 postseason run was like actively their worst player. 764 00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:56,160 And then, yeah, Hopkins, I assume will be cut. 765 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,280 Let's see. Let's see if I get are they 766 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:00,680 gonna give me the premium paywall? 767 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:04,400 OK, Hopkins can be cut. No, Hopkins is a isn't. 768 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,880 A respiratory agent? Yeah, he's done. 769 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:07,760 Yeah. It's, it's done, it's over. 770 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:09,920 So he won't be, he won't be back either. 771 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,520 They, they would rather have Juju Smith Schuster than DeAndre 772 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,360 Hopkins. And I think that is, is pretty 773 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:21,280 clear what, what would the team friendly deal that Hopkins could 774 00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:25,640 take? He he, they paid him $600,000 775 00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:29,560 last year after a restructure. Hard, hard to get more team 776 00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,640 friendly than that. And they didn't want to give him 777 00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:34,800 the ball I guess. He did score a touchdown in the 778 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:38,960 Super Bowl, so shout out to him. But I I would guess one of the 779 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,280 self scouting things that Veitch and Reed might do is like this 780 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:49,120 strategy of employing only men over the age of 30 is not 781 00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:52,400 working for our offense. But it's so funny because it's 782 00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:55,320 like the Chiefs have done like a polarizing thing, or at least 783 00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:56,400 how they've approached wide receivers. 784 00:40:56,400 --> 00:41:00,760 It's either like get the dustiest veterans or just 785 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,920 absolutely fucking nail these rookies in the middle part of 786 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,200 the draft or obviously Xavier was earlier, but and then like 787 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:10,360 fucking slow play the the, you know, powder keg of talent 788 00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:11,840 that's just like right under your neck. 789 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:13,840 Gotta get. Justin Watson, his reps, man, 790 00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:15,680 you gotta get Justin Watson his reps. 791 00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,560 Yeah, it is a like there was, it is kind of fun to envision. 792 00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,560 Like if there was a scenario where Travis Kelsey hadn't 793 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:26,480 fallen off the age Cliff and it was like you have Pete Kelsey 794 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:29,400 with Xavier Worthy and Rashi Rice, like that's the scariest 795 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,320 offense to ever set foot in football could. 796 00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:32,800 Have been you think it retired it's. 797 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,520 Been fun. I do. 798 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,640 Yeah, the way he was talking on the most recent New Heights or 799 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,400 whatever, I mean, I don't listen to it, but those clips always go 800 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:44,000 viral. Did not sound like a guy who's 801 00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:48,080 super interested in in coming. He's like, you know, I got to 802 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:50,400 think about it, I got it. Basically, he sounded like his 803 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,560 brother before his. Brother, yes, exactly, exactly. 804 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,200 They knew when Jason Kelsey and the Eagles lost to Tampa. 805 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,160 He's crying on the bench. He's hugging at all the coaches. 806 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,800 Like everybody thought that was it. 807 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:05,400 And then some time went by and he did that instead. 808 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,720 It wasn't immediate. And then it was like, OK, And 809 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:12,160 there's just every reason to think, Travis Kelsey, this is 810 00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,960 the time. And I do think like literally 811 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,560 having your brother just go through all that, you talk to 812 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,040 him all the time, you have a massive podcast, you're dating 813 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:25,440 the biggest celebrity in the world, you've accomplished about 814 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,640 all there is to accomplish in football. 815 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,600 Think you're probably good? Like staring down the barrel of 816 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,600 another year of like, load management during the regular 817 00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:37,160 season. The AFC getting tougher like 818 00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:38,800 that doesn't really sound like a fun thing. 819 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,880 No, you do look up to big bro. Just like Brady Kachuk, Pete on 820 00:42:43,880 --> 00:42:46,240 Saturday night in Montreal. Like God, what a game. 821 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:48,080 What a game. That was Mike. 822 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,640 That is, that is. Let's go Pete's study. 823 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:51,920 I thought Pete would be there today. 824 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,360 I thought last minute he'd be like going to, I'm going to TD 825 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,720 Bank Center Garden. Is that where Is it down the 826 00:42:56,720 --> 00:43:01,840 road from me? 1:00 is Finland, Canada, 8 is 827 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:07,360 Sweden, US, and there's a chance that US can dictate like who 828 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,120 they want to play by, you know how they do tonight. 829 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,800 So it's not they only had so much time to cram this thing in, 830 00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,480 but it was a pretty good, pretty good stuff on Saturday. 831 00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,600 All of this is at TD Garden. We got it. 832 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:18,880 We got to wrap up the show, guys. 833 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,760 I'm gonna head down and see if I can scalp some tickets and watch 834 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,960 some hockey here. Get to the finals on Thursday. 835 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,120 That much, it can't even be that much to get in. 836 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,480 Get to the finals on Thursday could be pretty good. 837 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,280 Yes, finals on Thursday will be expensive. 838 00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:36,640 Finland, no one cares. So biggest followers among the 839 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,640 non chiefs. Thank you, Zach, Woody Marks, 840 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,360 Travis Hunter, Taysom Hill. Have these names ever been put 841 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,400 together for any reason before in human history? 842 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,800 But Davis, tell us about Woody Marks running back and what's 843 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,840 happening with his AP. That makes sense. 844 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,360 I mean, he stinks. It's it's. 845 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,360 Just. A he stinks. 846 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:59,880 It's the it's the it's the funniest thing that effectively 847 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:05,200 the opening default rankings in the big board are not one to one 848 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:09,880 Hayden's rankings or projections, but I believe they 849 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,760 are loosely based off of Hayden's projections or 850 00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:15,920 rankings. Hayden obviously went to USC. 851 00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:23,720 Woody Marks was I think like the running back 45 and like 140th 852 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,160 overall or something, which is just like hilarious. 853 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,520 It's like this great running back class Woody Marx is like a 854 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:33,040 23 year old who sucked and like only caught passes like never 855 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,840 like broke like 0 tackles in in college. 856 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,960 WFN warehouse is just lying. He he is like the opposite of a 857 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:42,800 tough runner. He he would just get hit and 858 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,680 then just immediately get sat down. 859 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:51,160 He he's like no different than guys like Donovan Edwards, the 860 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,640 pass catching back from Michigan. 861 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:59,120 So it's just very funny to see him cascade like no, no top 100 862 00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,360 big prospect thing has him in the top like Dane Bruegel or 863 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,800 Mcshea. None of them have him in the top 864 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:08,000 100. He he's like a locked in round 865 00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,840 five, round six pick. So that's what's going on with 866 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,800 Woody Marx. It's just very funny because 867 00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,000 again, only the sickest degenerate virgins on the 868 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:22,160 Internet know about this hyper specific Hayden Winks bias that 869 00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:26,080 is influencing the the the ADP. It's so funny. 870 00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,240 And it, and it is funny too because like you already 871 00:45:29,240 --> 00:45:32,360 mentioned, there are some players whose ADP like the the 872 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,880 Amari and the Hopkins that is just static because there are 873 00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,600 like just auto drafters or people just drafting off ADP. 874 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,520 So those will always stay there. But like it does take like a 875 00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:46,280 pretty good market correction to actually push someone down right 876 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,680 now. Yes, yeah, like, well, the the 877 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,840 thing would be is that he's not ranked by legendary upside, he's 878 00:45:52,840 --> 00:45:56,120 not ranked by ETR and I don't have him in my rankings either. 879 00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,920 So anyone who's using any rankings is getting 0 of woody 880 00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:03,600 marks. All right, there you go. 881 00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:07,840 Travis Hunter, though Mike, this is maybe a more familiar name. 882 00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,440 I assume this is people reacting to the news that he was going to 883 00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:18,600 be listed as ADB at the combine. 100% yeah, I remember he, he he 884 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:20,480 just DM me his his Internet went out. 885 00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,080 I think he's hotspotting on on his phone. 886 00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,640 Yeah, basically it's, but it was like kind of like this should 887 00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:33,920 have been priced in anyways because he he was always going 888 00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:38,440 to be a corner 1st. And then at the same time that 889 00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,800 went out though, like literally the same time Jay Jones 9, who's 890 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,560 like a big NFL reporter tweeted at the same time he's like, he 891 00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:48,920 is gonna also do wide receiver drills and like Travis Hunter's 892 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,400 not gonna do shit at the combine anyway. 893 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,720 He's not running the 40, he's not bench pressing. 894 00:46:52,840 --> 00:46:55,560 He's not running the guys who are gonna be top five picks do 895 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:57,720 not do the drills. They never do anymore. 896 00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,280 Travis Hunter's not doing the drills so. 897 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,600 Right. It it, I do think it just speaks 898 00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:08,120 to how on edge everyone is about what's going to happen, right? 899 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,960 And people are going to react to every single little bit of news 900 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,160 because I think you can argue like, so this ADP right now, he 901 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:17,360 dropped from 1:22 or 1:16 to 1:22. 902 00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,800 I think you could argue if Travis Hunter exclusively played 903 00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,720 wide receiver and is a top five pick, he is the best pick in the 904 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:27,520 entire big board. Like not even close at 1:22 if 905 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,160 he exclusively plays wide receiver. 906 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,640 And if he like plays 80% DB in just a few gadgets snaps at wide 907 00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,400 receiver, he's arguably one of the worst picks in the entire 908 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,600 big board at this cost. So it makes sense to me that the 909 00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:44,880 market is going to wildly react to every single breadcrumb we 910 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,120 get between now and the start of the season. 911 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,960 I would say the bread crumbs have actually not been that bad. 912 00:47:53,480 --> 00:47:58,440 The bread I my projection for Travis Hunter is he is a nickel 913 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:00,680 corner. So he plays about 70% of the 914 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:04,000 snaps on defense and he plays about 20% of the snaps on 915 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,440 offense. But they're good snaps. 916 00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:08,960 They're only third downs. They're two-minute drill fourth 917 00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,320 quarter. If the team's down, he's getting 918 00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:15,200 like his targets per route run is going to be Cavante 919 00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:20,320 Turpenesque like Kevante Turpin's role, but as one of the 920 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,240 best athletes you've ever seen in your life. 921 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:23,840 What what do you wanted to get cheaper? 922 00:48:23,840 --> 00:48:27,680 Travis Hunter keep keep the the Kevante Turpin cops. 923 00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,280 Turpin esque is good. I mean, that's. 924 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:35,640 Good, but Kevante Turpin is like a a shitty guy who had a 925 00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:39,160 domestic abuse charge at TCU and and like never started in 926 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,640 college. Travis Hunter won the 927 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,560 Blitnikoff. So how how do you value a guy 928 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,400 like, OK, this is let's all right, let's back up. 929 00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:50,280 If Brian Thomas junior played 30% of the snaps for the 930 00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:51,640 Jaguars, where are you taking him? 931 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:57,200 Hang on, which 30% in what direction? 932 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,160 He's he's getting about 30% of the snaps. 933 00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,080 Brian Thomas, junior, is playing about 30% of the. 934 00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:05,280 Snaps round 14. Yeah, like round 14, Round 15. 935 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:09,200 So. It's so it's not. 936 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,200 That far off I I don't think, I think it's not that far off like 937 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:15,600 a three leg parlay because he also has to be good. 938 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,360 We're all taking that for granted. 939 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,600 Yeah, yeah. Any of you know, like he has to 940 00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:22,120 be really good. Then the efficiency hits like 941 00:49:22,120 --> 00:49:24,120 all of that. It is a it's a multi leg parlay. 942 00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,840 Where do we think he's going? Where do you think he's going? 943 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:33,000 Hunter like 5. Everyone locks into Cleveland, 944 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:34,320 or at least that's where I keep seeing. 945 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,200 Cleveland's going to take Ward, I think. 946 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,160 I think whoever takes Hunter likely trades up for him. 947 00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:44,520 To one. Just wherever, because Karain 948 00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,480 made this point and it's I, I've held it near and dear because 949 00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,640 it's one billion percent accurate. 950 00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:53,200 The GM who takes him is going to have a really high job security 951 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:59,560 because there is no way for Travis Hunter to make the fans 952 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:01,880 happy there. There is no career in which he 953 00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,960 makes the fans of the team. It like he'd either have to be 954 00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:09,560 the best corner you've ever seen, a a Rivas Patrick Surtain 955 00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:13,960 level shutdown dominating corner or this incredible wide 956 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:15,360 receiver. But the most likely thing is 957 00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,280 probably that he'll be an OK corner and then have some fun 958 00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,360 stuff on offense every once in a while, you know? 959 00:50:21,360 --> 00:50:25,160 Davis, I'll I'll stay right where I was for the last month. 960 00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:29,120 He's going to Jacksonville. I mean, they really don't need 961 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:31,120 the receiver. They can kind of get away with. 962 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,680 He's just going to Jacksonville at 5:00. 963 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:35,640 That's. I, I think that I think that 964 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,400 works because then he can kind of rotate out when on the 965 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,480 Christian Kirk stuff, he could, you know, that it kind of works. 966 00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,280 I I kind of like it for offense, I think. 967 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,280 That would be again another like I, I think the market would 968 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,440 probably get pretty excited about that spot. 969 00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:50,240 Yeah, I think so. I think as well. 970 00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:53,040 What's going on with this Taysom Hill? 971 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:57,520 Why where all the time? Hill flappies Davis, So I've. 972 00:50:57,520 --> 00:50:59,840 Tracked this pretty closely as you can imagine. 973 00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:02,440 I cannot find where this rumor came from. 974 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,960 No one's putting their name on it, you know, not So what? 975 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,480 What's Silva's boy? Underhill has not put his name 976 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,360 on this yet. Mike Triplet has not put his 977 00:51:09,360 --> 00:51:11,600 name on this yet. The Tayson Mill is unlikely to 978 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,200 return to the Saints with Kellen Moore there. 979 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,480 The the big issue, I mean, I'd have 100% Tayson Mill. 980 00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:20,120 The big issue is he's a 34 year old who just had a catastrophic 981 00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:24,400 knee season ending knee injury, I believe ACL and MCL. 982 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:30,680 So it's it's just not great. No, no. 983 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,160 So we're not yet. We're not quite yet to the 984 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:35,480 conversation about where we list Taysom Hill. 985 00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,320 We're more just sort of like where is he going? 986 00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,240 Is he going well? They finally did get it right. 987 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:41,720 They finally did just list him as a tight end, which is 988 00:51:41,720 --> 00:51:43,880 obviously. And now no one wants it. 989 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,280 They finally gave. People what they want. 990 00:51:47,240 --> 00:51:50,560 I guess he does some of that. Moving on. 991 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,600 We've got two way players everybody, and this is quite a 992 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,160 list. Speaking of three men who've 993 00:51:55,160 --> 00:52:00,280 never been in my kitchen or named together, Hunter Sionvaki 994 00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:02,120 Davis, that's that one's for you. 995 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:06,320 And of course, Bronco Nagurski. Legend Bronco Nagurski, man. 996 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:10,120 I don't have any leather helmets, but what a collection. 997 00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:16,800 If if Bronco Nagurski was in this draft class like like there 998 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:21,360 was like a, like an elite tight end prospect name round 14, The 999 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:25,560 the, the, the name premium you would have to pay on that guy. 1000 00:52:25,560 --> 00:52:27,080 It'd be like a 2 1/2 round premium. 1001 00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:30,760 Just 2 1/2 rounds. Yeah, Bronco with AK is the most 1002 00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,040 hard, badass thing I've ever seen in my life. 1003 00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:37,360 Yeah, but I I actually knew this name somehow. 1004 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,440 I don't know why I know who this is. 1005 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:41,160 He must have been. He must have been in one of 1006 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:43,920 those books you read about football from the Public 1007 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:45,720 Library. How do you forget it? 1008 00:52:46,280 --> 00:52:49,760 Well, how? About Ed two way is selling this 1009 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,200 guy short and this is this isn't me from a wealth of knowledge. 1010 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,800 I'm looking this up right now. So you know, played full back in 1011 00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:58,760 defensive tackle. He was also a successful 1012 00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,280 professional wrestler, recognized as a multi time World 1013 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,240 Heavyweight Champion. This guy was a three-way athlete 1014 00:53:05,240 --> 00:53:07,720 baby. Wow, also Canadian there. 1015 00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:14,160 You go also a Canadian I believe he also wow. 1016 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:21,920 He also joined the United States Army as a Canadian Best. 1017 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,320 Background this This would be Trump's favorite player. 1018 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:27,400 Canadian board guy who assimilates the United States 1019 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,600 Army. You know, this is back when men 1020 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,400 were men really is what we're is what we're saying. 1021 00:53:33,240 --> 00:53:35,320 This is when this is when men were men. 1022 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:39,360 Yes, it is the IT is. It is a a collegiate award. 1023 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,680 Yeah. Bronco Nagurski, a stable of 1024 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,080 every football. Look at this guy. 1025 00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,760 Look at the size of that guy's traps, dude. 1026 00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:48,600 My God. I mean, he looks better than 1027 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,520 somebody builders. Now look at that jaw. 1028 00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:55,520 This is like the the original, a photo for the meme of like men. 1029 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,720 Why can't you look like this? You know, and just this is the 1030 00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:00,920 most manly man I've ever seen. I'm gonna put. 1031 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:04,520 This guy's like, this guy's like 75 years old in that meme and 1032 00:54:04,520 --> 00:54:07,040 this look at look at what you could look like at 75. 1033 00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:10,200 Incredible. So good. 1034 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,480 All right. How about the size of the 1035 00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:15,040 football in this picture? By the way, that's a giant 1036 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:16,320 football I used to play with it's. 1037 00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,800 Bigger than Xavier Worthy. Yeah, no stripes. 1038 00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,600 The real, the play. Game was the ball getting 1039 00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,760 smaller year after year in the early 1900s. 1040 00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,920 No one even noticed. No one even noticed. 1041 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,760 All right, boys. So you guys have to leave? 1042 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,160 No. OK, year 2 running backs. 1043 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,560 So last year what do we have? We had Jonathan Brooks, first 1044 00:54:39,560 --> 00:54:41,760 running back picked mid second. Yikes. 1045 00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:46,920 Benson in round 3 and was that not it for running backs? 1046 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:50,320 The first two days of the quorum, OK, first two days of 1047 00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:54,680 the draft, it wasn't much. Here are Bucky Irving and Tyrone 1048 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,760 Tracy, who both were very good. In Irving's case, I mean 1049 00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,360 outstanding. And here are your hits from year 1050 00:55:03,360 --> 00:55:06,600 2 running backs. Otherwise, it was pretty gross. 1051 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:10,560 I know we're all like, take my cues from you guys and you want 1052 00:55:10,560 --> 00:55:12,720 to be drafting these rookie running backs. 1053 00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:15,720 We don't know landing spot, you know, we just know that the crop 1054 00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:20,240 of free agents were old. Henry Nixon, Jacobs, is he good? 1055 00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:23,360 You had Camara and Connor and everybody knows the names. 1056 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,720 There should be opportunities for some of these younger 1057 00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:28,120 running backs to fit in and do well. 1058 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,280 It didn't really happen other than these two giants were open 1059 00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:34,120 and the Bucks with Rashad White, who nobody liked for his 1060 00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:36,680 efficiency. Irving gives you a very nice 1061 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:38,400 year. Great dynasty asset. 1062 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:42,360 So is there an overall lesson from last year? 1063 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:49,920 The lesson is a scattershot approach is going to be better 1064 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:55,680 than honing in on one guy. I had I had 85% of Braylon Allen 1065 00:55:55,800 --> 00:55:59,720 in the big board last year. Felt like a fucking genius after 1066 00:55:59,720 --> 00:56:02,840 that two touchdown game. It's like this guy's so good, 1067 00:56:03,160 --> 00:56:06,200 can't even be contained. And then you know it's week 9 1068 00:56:06,200 --> 00:56:08,840 and all of a sudden Isaiah Davis is playing on their downs. 1069 00:56:08,840 --> 00:56:11,800 Although, famously, Taron Tracy was not available in the big 1070 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:13,280 board, it was not in the player pool. 1071 00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,280 For the big. Board last year. 1072 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,800 Let me let me fine tune Davis's Screener because I do think that 1073 00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,880 there's a theme with both of these guys, right? 1074 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,680 And Braylon Allen, we you know, we can lump him in talent wise 1075 00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,560 with them. But what he didn't have was a 1076 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,720 clear path to taking over a backfield. 1077 00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,880 Like the impediment of Breece Hall is much, much greater than 1078 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:36,760 Rashad White or Devin Singletary. 1079 00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:40,480 So to me, like if you want to tilt your exposures to the 1B 1080 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:43,520 rookie backs, and this is obviously post NFL draft doesn't 1081 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:48,200 really help us out now, but who face lesser competition, I do 1082 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:50,760 think you want to skew your bets heavier in that direction. 1083 00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:56,360 And then to Davis's point, be more have more humility when it 1084 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,480 comes to the Blake Korubs, the Braylon Allen's of the world 1085 00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,240 being like, yeah, they have awesome contingent upside, but 1086 00:57:01,240 --> 00:57:04,360 the path to them just taking it over outright is probably pretty 1087 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,480 thin. Yeah, like you like. 1088 00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:12,720 The other thing is we do this mental math of like, oh, the 1089 00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:15,160 starter gets hurt and I hit the jackpot. 1090 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:19,160 But then you also might have situations where the starter 1091 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,720 gets hurt for like 3 weeks and you hit a, you hit a small 1092 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,360 jackpot, but you do not actually like, well, Braylon last year 1093 00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,440 for like 3 weeks they were like, all right, this is just a 1094 00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:29,920 timeshare, right? And then they were like, well, 1095 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:32,760 the other guy's Breece Hall. So maybe it's not a timeshare. 1096 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,800 So let's, let's scale that back a little bit. 1097 00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:39,000 Or like you know, every you, you could set your watch by it. 1098 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:44,240 Every Sunday at about 3:37 PM Central time, the Rams would be 1099 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:46,200 coming up for their third drive of the game. 1100 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:50,480 Blake Corn would get the first carry on that drive and all 1101 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:53,160 everyone I fantasy. Does skyran hurt? 1102 00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,840 Go to ship chasing. Discord Dude where's Skyran? 1103 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:58,880 Dude where's Kyran? Is Kyran benched? 1104 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,680 You just can't you you can't account for sometimes how 1105 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,800 dysfunctional the teams are. I mean, that The Jets had a 1106 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,600 coaching change mid season. They could have been trying 1107 00:58:09,600 --> 00:58:11,400 anything. It could have been Rogers will 1108 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:16,560 over over a lot of that. So 100% it it was predictable. 1109 00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,840 I mean, you could have predicted that that would happen with The 1110 00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,720 Jets, making them sort of an avoid in all cases. 1111 00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:27,520 But it sometimes you can't know. The other that is that is my 1112 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,560 favorite jodre of Sweaty fantasy football there is. 1113 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,680 It's like Brock Bowers could play like 100% of snaps and he 1114 00:58:33,680 --> 00:58:36,600 takes like 1 snap off to like get a sip of Gatorade and he's 1115 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:39,080 like who does he did Brock did Brock Bowers leg fall off? 1116 00:58:39,160 --> 00:58:44,720 Like what the fuck? It's just like dude he's just 1117 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,360 grabbing the inhaler for like 2 seconds, relax. 1118 00:58:47,800 --> 00:58:50,560 Another interesting thing about. I could be guilty of that. 1119 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:56,880 Because it's so binary is there are actually way more year 1 no 1120 00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,880 points, year 2 smashes than you'd think 'cause I've been 1121 00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,560 running this filter thinking about Trey Benson and Blake 1122 00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:06,920 Quorum on Stathead. But like last 15 years, running 1123 00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,680 backs, third round picks, less than 300 scrimmage yards in year 1124 00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:14,520 1. It's like James Conner, Kenyon 1125 00:59:14,520 --> 00:59:18,440 Drake and two other guys who were like clear hits that I 1126 00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,920 can't remember. But basically, I don't think 1127 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,000 Quorum and Benson are are dead at all. 1128 00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:30,080 I'm giving Pete, I'm trying to give Pete the there we go, the 1129 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:33,240 line judge like they do now instead of bringing the chains 1130 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,840 out the line judge just sort of points first down, let's keep 1131 00:59:35,840 --> 00:59:37,640 the game going. Here's our next slide where you 1132 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,960 see a couple of those names, Benson, Quorum, Jalen Wright, 1133 00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,800 Shipley. I know Pete, you just took him 1134 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:47,240 late in your draft this morning. Audrick, Estimate Wright is 1135 00:59:47,720 --> 00:59:50,360 interesting to me. I've got Mike McDaniel, I've got 1136 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:53,200 Mostert out of the picture. Was he, is he good enough 1137 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:54,720 though? That's, I think a lot. 1138 00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:59,960 Well, as I say that, I want to also say, does it matter how 1139 00:59:59,960 --> 01:00:01,320 good he is? I guess it matters on some 1140 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,360 level. He has to get the coaches 1141 01:00:02,360 --> 01:00:04,840 respect. But right? 1142 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:07,600 Of these 5, right and Estimate are the two I'm drafting the 1143 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,880 most. Yeah. 1144 01:00:10,960 --> 01:00:16,760 Oh, I I just noticed Davis took off here for say, because I do 1145 01:00:16,760 --> 01:00:19,440 think that's the thing, right, Like you don't want to bury 1146 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,840 anyone who is just buried necessarily for like depth chart 1147 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:25,080 purposes and were blocked by a better back. 1148 01:00:25,080 --> 01:00:29,000 Like I'm not going to, you know, Ding Trey Benson for not being 1149 01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:32,000 able to serve James Conner. James Conner was awesome last 1150 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,200 year. You know, like the the Rams 1151 01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,480 absolutely love Kyron Williams. Like I'm not going to knock 1152 01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:38,880 Blake Horn for not wrestling away that backfield. 1153 01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,280 So I guess of these guys, are there any of them who you do 1154 01:00:42,280 --> 01:00:43,920 actually have concerns about their talent? 1155 01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,680 Well, well. Estimate is the one of these 1156 01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:52,680 five who did not have that particular challenge. 1157 01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:57,120 I mean, Barkley, of course, and HN, you have four of the most 1158 01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,240 productive running backs in the league ahead of these first four 1159 01:00:59,240 --> 01:01:00,840 guys. But Denver did not have that. 1160 01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:04,320 And who knows with Denver? Estimate was a healthy scratch 1161 01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:07,520 for Tyler Beatty in the playoff game. 1162 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:12,320 Yeah, so. But but again, it's Sean Payton, 1163 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,680 so who knows? Audrey Estimate could get 300 1164 01:01:16,680 --> 01:01:20,840 touches this year. That was a that was a style 1165 01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:22,720 thing, right? That they wanted, that they 1166 01:01:22,720 --> 01:01:26,520 reportedly wanted for Buffalo didn't, well, end up mattering, 1167 01:01:26,520 --> 01:01:28,080 but. Well, Sean, Sean Payton 1168 01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:31,760 literally thinks there's a rule where you can't have a running 1169 01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:35,200 back play back-to-back snaps. He he like plays the floor is 1170 01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:38,400 lava with his running backs. Like you watch that game, that 1171 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,480 game against the Bills in the playoffs and he would not let 1172 01:01:41,480 --> 01:01:45,400 any of these guys get into rhythm, even have a series, much 1173 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,640 less like back-to-back carries. Like his running back usage is 1174 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,960 just completely borked. Well, that doesn't help us for 1175 01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,160 next year. Well, what if it, what it? 1176 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:58,440 What if it won't be borked? What if he gets What if he gets 1177 01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,680 Ashton Genti? That's been the rumor. 1178 01:02:01,800 --> 01:02:06,840 The rumor has been that Peyton really wants him and C Salami, 1179 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,400 obviously, who? We all have our own spotted 1180 01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,160 history with C Salami, Broncos reports. 1181 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,640 But. Do we? 1182 01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:17,040 If you're if you've been doing this as nerdy and as long as I 1183 01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:18,960 have, yeah, you, you've got you all. 1184 01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,280 You'll all have your. I mean, it's so funny because we 1185 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:25,320 all have these opinions of teams beat writers based on really on, 1186 01:02:25,320 --> 01:02:28,680 on how good or bad we ran with their decision. 1187 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:30,800 You know, that's, that's really all it is. 1188 01:02:30,800 --> 01:02:35,600 But Cecil has been tweeting that they really want Gente. 1189 01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:37,040 And I think Rusty Shackelford is right. 1190 01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:39,600 I think Peyton did totally want to play Javonte, but he just 1191 01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:42,800 couldn't do. He just couldn't do it. 1192 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,480 Denver picks 20th. I don't know. 1193 01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:48,400 I mean, when Davis goes to the bathroom, he leaves his Internet 1194 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:51,240 connection on. I just decided to go black so 1195 01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:54,960 whatever. OK, 20th pick for the Broncos. 1196 01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,640 Sounds to me like Gentie will be gone. 1197 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,960 They'll have to make a move to get him. 1198 01:02:58,080 --> 01:03:00,760 Agreed. Yes, yeah, probably, probably to 1199 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,560 get to 11. I had a Dallas. 1200 01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:04,880 And I mean that would just like trading up. 1201 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,040 Running back. Worked out for the Lions, dude. 1202 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:12,120 Maybe learn ball, Peter. Maybe learn ball. made-up for a 1203 01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:14,000 running back trade up for an inside linebacker. 1204 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:15,920 Your positional allocations don't matter. 1205 01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,400 This isn't fantasy football. I need guys who can win in the 1206 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,840 trenches. Counterpoint, Jameer Gibbs had 1207 01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:25,320 like the game of his life in that game and the Lions got 1208 01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,600 bounced from the playoffs by the fucking eighth seed. 1209 01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:34,800 Whatever Denver was, they would consider it a success. 1210 01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:39,560 So generally speaking, expect more of it, I think from Denver. 1211 01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:44,000 I will say too, like I assume next week when you guys do this 1212 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:47,600 show, Jalen Wright's gonna show up on the risers chart just by 1213 01:03:47,600 --> 01:03:51,480 necessity out of the moster cut. Do we like him? 1214 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,720 I like him. I liked him a lot a year ago. 1215 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:57,360 Yeah. I didn't really like him as a 1216 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,360 prospect and I don't really like him now, I think. 1217 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:04,360 Yeah. I think at these prices though 1218 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,840 like getting a stat like because what obviously they'll probably 1219 01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:11,480 bring in a third back. They seem to kind of like that 1220 01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,440 as part of their rotation. They did it with Jeff Wilson 1221 01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:17,440 before. But you are essentially getting 1222 01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:22,000 like the one the presumed 1B back here at like nearly priced 1223 01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:26,360 I think close to his downside. I get one the the maybe the true 1224 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,680 downside is they draft like a running back in round two or 1225 01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,920 three and he's just relegated to RB3 and he's a total zero. 1226 01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,160 I guess maybe that's the down, the true downside. 1227 01:04:36,080 --> 01:04:38,560 A Banacanda. Well, it's also like no one 1228 01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,840 yeah, they could bring in a banacanda because a banacanda 1229 01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:44,280 fits in the point I was about to make, which is that Jalen Wright 1230 01:04:44,280 --> 01:04:48,640 is a poor style fit, I believe for the one cut and go. 1231 01:04:48,720 --> 01:04:52,280 He kind of likes to Juke and jive and find his and they're 1232 01:04:52,280 --> 01:04:55,640 just, I mean, we, how many times have we seen this with the 1233 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:59,000 Shanahan West Coast zone blocking stuff? 1234 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:02,080 Damien Pierce. Damien Pierce smashes year 1. 1235 01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,400 Bobby Slovak comes in, he can't figure out the blocking. 1236 01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,240 He gets replaced by Daria Ogunbowale. 1237 01:05:09,320 --> 01:05:13,080 It's just what happens, man. If you don't get the scheme, 1238 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,280 you're just not going to get the free yards that the offense 1239 01:05:16,280 --> 01:05:20,040 generates for you. I just want to say at the risk 1240 01:05:20,040 --> 01:05:22,920 of being, you know, self indulgent here, I love this 1241 01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:26,240 chart. So 2025 ADP all right, here are 1242 01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:28,720 some late round guys, some values games. 1243 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,600 Oh, they all played all the time as rookies. 1244 01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:38,200 Fantasy points per game, 3.4 to 1.71.12.6. 1245 01:05:38,200 --> 01:05:41,840 It kind of all sounds the same, but not, you know, yards after 1246 01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:44,160 contact, broken tackle that we're now we're going to get 1247 01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:44,880 great. I love this chart. 1248 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,440 We're going to get granular on the well, 1.7 yards points per 1249 01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:53,120 game rather, but broken tackle 20% like this is the good stuff. 1250 01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,720 Well, and honestly, like these back-to-back slides kind of like 1251 01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,000 illustrate the entire point on taking these rookie running 1252 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,560 backs, right? The majority of them are going 1253 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:06,000 to be these guys that average 2.3 points a game that do 1254 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:08,840 nothing for you. But there's going to be a couple 1255 01:06:08,840 --> 01:06:12,560 massive league winning hits. Like Bucky Irving absolutely 1256 01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:17,640 scorched the fantasy landscape and you got to crack a few eggs, 1257 01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:21,040 some Oddrick estimates to land a Bucky Irving omelet. 1258 01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,520 You know, that's just how it goes in these. 1259 01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:28,200 Plus the next slide is some more of these players, Ray Davis, 1260 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:32,280 Isaac Gorendo, Braylon Allen. There he is Davis and then 1261 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:37,720 Isaiah Davis, also a Jet. Similarly to the last group when 1262 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:42,640 it comes to ADP also played all the time last year gave you a 1263 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:44,760 little bit more fantasy points per game. 1264 01:06:45,480 --> 01:06:47,240 Davis. So we have James Cook who is 1265 01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:50,680 making a a production out of wanting 15,000,000 bucks the 1266 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,440 season for the Bills. He won't get it. 1267 01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,760 I think it's highly likely that there's a three or four year 1268 01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:00,040 contract extension for him next year at a pretty good the kind 1269 01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:03,400 of the kind of money that because it's a running back will 1270 01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:08,680 mostly scoff at. But I mean 16 touchdowns by no, 1271 01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:11,000 no question was it a successful year for him and he's still 1272 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:13,880 young three years in. Where does that leave Davis? 1273 01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:17,360 Ray Davis. High, high, right, because Ty 1274 01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:19,320 Johnson probably will not be back. 1275 01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:22,480 I mean, maybe they maybe he does just want to resign for the 1276 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,120 veteran minimum because they like him, he likes them, 1277 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:27,840 whatever. It's possible, but like also 1278 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:29,920 maybe not like your third running back. 1279 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:34,120 Not a high priority. Plenty of UDFAS that will give 1280 01:07:34,120 --> 01:07:37,640 you the same production. I I think I probably should be a 1281 01:07:37,640 --> 01:07:41,600 little bit higher because there certainly are non 0 chances 1282 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,760 where where James Cook actually does just say I, I would like to 1283 01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:47,080 get paid and you're not going to pay me, so I'm out. 1284 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:50,760 And the thing about Ray Davis that, you know, going back to 1285 01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,040 his prospect profile, right, like he's not explosive as 1286 01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:57,080 Bucky, but what he can do is he can do it all massively 1287 01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,880 productive at like every you know, what did he go to four 1288 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:02,640 different universities and put up over 1000 scrimmage yards? 1289 01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:07,760 Like, man, I think he could be just like a sneaky league winner 1290 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,040 in in those scenarios. And at the very worst, like, 1291 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,400 like Davis says, if he takes it's over the Ty Johnson role, 1292 01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,640 we already know that's extremely valuable in this offense as 1293 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:18,080 well. Yeah, he seems like a really 1294 01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:23,520 nice pick at this price. He is barely younger than Cook, 1295 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,720 by the way. Cuz I just go to Pro Football. 1296 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:27,760 Reference to check that and. Realize that I'm on Bronco 1297 01:08:27,760 --> 01:08:30,640 Nagurski's page. They're two months apart I 1298 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:33,600 believe, which is. Just Bronco Nagurski and Ray 1299 01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:41,080 Davis. Yes, I like Davis too. 1300 01:08:41,760 --> 01:08:44,080 Cook. Cook, by the way, did what he 1301 01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:48,439 did this year on 47% of the snaps for the Bills. 1302 01:08:48,880 --> 01:08:51,479 Like just what an inside out season that was with all the 1303 01:08:51,479 --> 01:08:55,200 touchdowns with Allen getting another dozen or so by himself 1304 01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,560 again, they they ran for 30 touchdowns the Bills. 1305 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:02,240 So I think Davis is trending up. I think, I think Johnson could 1306 01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,359 be back. He made some big plays in the 1307 01:09:04,359 --> 01:09:06,840 passing game for them. So unless he can get a better 1308 01:09:06,840 --> 01:09:08,399 deal somewhere else, I'd expect him here. 1309 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:11,760 What do you think about these other guys? 1310 01:09:11,920 --> 01:09:16,760 You know, Grendo, it's always tough to me when we see the guy 1311 01:09:16,760 --> 01:09:22,200 get the crack and it like, was it, you know what you want it to 1312 01:09:22,200 --> 01:09:23,840 be? You know, wasn't catching a lot 1313 01:09:23,840 --> 01:09:26,880 of passes, didn't look as explosive really as like even 1314 01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,800 Jordan Mason when he had the crack at it. 1315 01:09:28,800 --> 01:09:31,439 Like how how do you guys handle the Garrendo spot? 1316 01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,840 Well, Garrendo got used more in the passing game than Mason did, 1317 01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,080 which I did think is a little bit interesting. 1318 01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:43,319 I, I, my, my opinion is that the 49ers handcuffed running backs 1319 01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:45,920 probably not on the roster. It's probably a third. 1320 01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:50,319 It's probably some some rookie that Kyle Shanahan is in a, a 1321 01:09:50,840 --> 01:09:53,640 dark room watching film right now and he's like, I'm trading 1322 01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:57,800 up to get that guy with one of my 19 compensatory third round 1323 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:00,760 picks. Has there ever been a draft that 1324 01:10:00,760 --> 01:10:02,880 Kyle Shanahan is not taking a running back truly? 1325 01:10:03,320 --> 01:10:04,760 I think the answer is literally no. 1326 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:07,040 I I believe there has never been one where he's not taking a 1327 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,840 running back. And Darendo and Mason are like 1328 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,480 super Jags. I agree with that. 1329 01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:16,720 I, we had it with sermon with TDP right? 1330 01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:21,360 And then Mason and like last year I I got to a good number in 1331 01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:24,000 basketball mania on Mason, but it didn't start until like 1332 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,160 August 1st, right? So who was talking about Jordan 1333 01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,920 Mason until training camp really in Grendo? 1334 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,640 He was a rookie, so there was some hype for him a little bit 1335 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,000 more. And then Elijah Williams, right? 1336 01:10:35,280 --> 01:10:37,080 Elijah Mitchell. Sorry, Elijah Mitchell. 1337 01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:39,480 Season ending injury. Yeah. 1338 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:42,080 I wouldn't want to be on any of the Niner backup. 1339 01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:47,720 The current backups, yeah. As the world's biggest Braylon 1340 01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:51,240 Allen fan, how often have you been drafting him in the big 1341 01:10:51,240 --> 01:10:55,920 board here at this price of 175? More than the more than more 1342 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,120 than the field. Yeah, I I've got a lot of him 1343 01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:02,040 because I think the Isaiah Davis stuff can just be explained by 1344 01:11:02,040 --> 01:11:04,920 like end of the year Weirdnet and like Isaiah Davis, I 1345 01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:07,840 actually liked him as a prospect too. 1346 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:12,520 So I I maybe as as much as someone who is not super into 1347 01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,840 rookies is not I'm not dinging Braille and Allen for Isaiah 1348 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,080 Davis getting on the field. In fact, I think it's probably 1349 01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:21,880 more of a probably more of a Ding at Mr. Breece Hall, who 1350 01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:24,280 famously still has not had 1000 yards rushing in the NFL. 1351 01:11:24,280 --> 01:11:26,160 Just in your line. Wow. 1352 01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:28,840 And. If Pat was here, he could defend 1353 01:11:28,840 --> 01:11:30,840 his boy. But I'm not Pat, so I'll let 1354 01:11:30,840 --> 01:11:32,040 that slander slide. Yeah. 1355 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,400 I I think I think Braylon Allen is probably just a very good 1356 01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:38,160 handcuff running back. Just like if Breece miss, I 1357 01:11:38,160 --> 01:11:42,680 don't think he is going to earn earn significant timeshare from 1358 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,000 Bree Saul, particularly because I don't expect the offense to be 1359 01:11:45,000 --> 01:11:48,080 that good unless they pull off something that I can't foresee 1360 01:11:48,440 --> 01:11:50,440 for a quarterback. Maybe if Matt Stafford is the 1361 01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:53,720 quarterback of The Jets, sure then then maybe Braylon Allen 1362 01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,560 could earn. And I also, it's February 17th, 1363 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:01,280 so I have not super well researched into who is calling 1364 01:12:01,280 --> 01:12:04,160 plays for The Jets and their play calling splits at running 1365 01:12:04,160 --> 01:12:07,120 back or anything. But I'll put it this way, 1366 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,200 Braylon Allen, if the cheat or if the Cowboys traded a third 1367 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,360 round pick for Braylon Allen this offseason, I'd be taking 1368 01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,480 him in the third round. So that is how good I think he 1369 01:12:15,480 --> 01:12:19,600 is. Yeah, I mean, these prices were 1370 01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,560 in such kind of flier territory that it's hard to like, say 1371 01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:24,320 anything super bad about these guys. 1372 01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,880 And Braylon Allen, you know, flashed when he did get 1373 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:30,280 opportunities. So I mean taking stabs at an 1374 01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:33,520 ambiguous backfield even even though the team situation looks 1375 01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,720 pretty dire right now. Pretty ambiguous. 1376 01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,920 Seems fine, especially because they might have no choice but to 1377 01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,440 run the ball every single play next year. 1378 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:45,440 The question is, you know any of these guys, we're already to 9 1379 01:12:45,440 --> 01:12:49,440 or 10 year 2 running backs. There's also Kendre Miller, you 1380 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:53,960 know, these guys versus rookies. And I think there's sort of a 1381 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:57,880 macro question about what we think the appetite will be for 1382 01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,680 the rookie running backs versus, you know, some of these guys. 1383 01:13:00,680 --> 01:13:02,560 The San Francisco example might be a good one. 1384 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,360 And I know they have the history, the tradition that they 1385 01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:08,720 have. But is a team going to be, you 1386 01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:12,560 know, Gorendo or DJ Giddens or one of these other rookies? 1387 01:13:12,920 --> 01:13:14,840 I guess you want to always sprinkle in both. 1388 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:18,600 But that was my thinking with this topic was is it really? 1389 01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:21,560 Are they mostly dead? I mean, Marshawn Lloyd is on the 1390 01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:24,320 next slide. And I don't know, I mean, that 1391 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:26,920 just went so badly. Green Bay was supposed to be a 1392 01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:29,600 team that rotated running backs and. 1393 01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:33,200 They were making up. They were making up injuries for 1394 01:13:33,200 --> 01:13:37,440 Marshawn Lloyd just like this dude got appendicitis like 1395 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,160 crazy. So I mean, do we generally want, 1396 01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:44,600 you know, 7 out of 10 times rookies over this group? 1397 01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:46,520 I mean, I know that every case is different. 1398 01:13:48,440 --> 01:13:52,640 Well, yeah, and it goes back into from my perspective, it I 1399 01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:56,920 think it is harder to nail the Chuba Hubbard, you know, one 1400 01:13:56,920 --> 01:13:59,840 that the veteran who's underpriced who just absolutely 1401 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,600 smashes than the rookie who, you know, provides a windfall. 1402 01:14:04,600 --> 01:14:07,440 Like just for me. I think it's easier to identify 1403 01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:10,760 those rookies and play those situations than to step on all 1404 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:14,520 of the landmines of the dusty guys who you're buying volume 1405 01:14:14,520 --> 01:14:18,840 that never actually pans out. Maybe that's a leak in my game, 1406 01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:22,000 but I just find it easier to default to the rookies in that 1407 01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:24,840 range. And I think, I think if you just 1408 01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:28,120 blindly took the rookies after pick 150 over the vets, like 1409 01:14:28,120 --> 01:14:29,960 you'll probably come out ahead in the long run. 1410 01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:35,240 Well, because the the vets are not going to give you. 1411 01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:37,640 There's not a scenario where Marshawn Lloyd can end up being 1412 01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,720 an eighth round pick. But if Laquint Allen is a second 1413 01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:45,360 round pick to the Cowboys and they don't take Genti or a 1414 01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,080 second round pick to the Chargers, I mean, you are 1415 01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:51,360 talking like some of these guys who are maybe undrafted right 1416 01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,560 now, could legit be 3-4 turn picks in basketball mania or 1417 01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,840 whatever. So you have to balance out like, 1418 01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:04,600 well, Burchard Smith might be a zero or he might be the new 1419 01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:09,000 Travis Etienne for the Jaguars. You know, like it, just it and 1420 01:15:09,000 --> 01:15:11,200 it's a, it's a hard thing to balance, obviously. 1421 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,880 I I learned on Go ahead, Pete. Sorry. 1422 01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:14,800 Oh. No, I was just going to say, 1423 01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:19,720 yeah, like the the CLV that you can get on these rookies is just 1424 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,400 insane relative to to the veterans. 1425 01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:27,840 Yeah, closest line. Value I learned on Saturday that 1426 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:33,680 Brashard Smith is a Stephanie Miller guy as Stephanie. 1427 01:15:35,480 --> 01:15:39,440 Stephanie was up in the Buffalo area for our 9th annual February 1428 01:15:39,440 --> 01:15:42,760 Fixed Draft. I can't say I invented my 1429 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:45,200 friends and I invented the concept of drafting for next 1430 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:47,560 year, you know, around the Super Bowl. 1431 01:15:47,560 --> 01:15:51,320 But we've been doing it for 9 years and lovely to see 1432 01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,880 Stephanie attend. I'm not sure she had any 1433 01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:56,920 particular reason for doing it, just decided to fly up from from 1434 01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,600 Texas to be a part of our festivities. 1435 01:16:01,360 --> 01:16:03,520 It's a wonderful time of year to visit Buffalo. 1436 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:04,880 I mean they would want to visit in. 1437 01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:08,480 The middle of it's so nice. It is when the slush on the 1438 01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:11,920 street as you park your car on draft never really comes out of 1439 01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:13,880 your shoe. It's just always in your feet 1440 01:16:13,880 --> 01:16:15,800 are always cold from walking outside. 1441 01:16:16,160 --> 01:16:20,080 But fourteen teams, super flex, tight end, premium big bash. 1442 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,440 We do 6. If anybody's interested in a 1443 01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:25,160 league like this, it's really fun. 18 rounds. 1444 01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:29,840 It gets pretty sloppy, just like the slush and then six rounds 1445 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:35,040 supplemental in July, so you end up with 2424 players and in July 1446 01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,400 it'll make a little bit more sense, a little bit of both Best 1447 01:16:37,400 --> 01:16:38,960 Ball Mania and Big boy. Hopefully. 1448 01:16:40,280 --> 01:16:41,520 Yeah. Hopefully. 1449 01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:45,160 Could someone in the chat? The devs have been working hard 1450 01:16:45,160 --> 01:16:49,520 between the scenes. I just made the show face an 1451 01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,520 emoji for YouTube members. Can someone see if that took 1452 01:16:53,520 --> 01:16:55,760 effect here? And can we get some show faces 1453 01:16:56,600 --> 01:16:58,720 in the chat here? Today's not the other one. 1454 01:17:00,080 --> 01:17:02,840 I did today's. Yeah, today's is way better than 1455 01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:04,680 the one you wanted. That's kind of how it always 1456 01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:06,240 works. That's how it, you know, that's 1457 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:08,800 how it has to be. I, I guess. 1458 01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,960 Well, at least I started a conversation. 1459 01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:14,120 Well, so real quick on this. So on the screen we got, you 1460 01:17:14,120 --> 01:17:17,400 know, the the Marshawn Lloyd, Jonathan Brooks is Davis. 1461 01:17:17,400 --> 01:17:20,080 Is Jonathan Brooks draftable? No, no, he's not. 1462 01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,560 He's not going to play, man. He, I, I, I've been saying, I've 1463 01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:26,520 been saying he is more likely to be never, never play another 1464 01:17:26,520 --> 01:17:29,800 down of NFL football than to playing this season. 1465 01:17:30,960 --> 01:17:37,000 So do you think how, how are you viewing Shuba then through that 1466 01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:38,280 lens? Obviously they're going to add 1467 01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:41,520 somebody. What, what do you think they do? 1468 01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:43,480 Do you think they invest significantly again? 1469 01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:46,880 It's the that's the problem to me is that this clearly feels 1470 01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:53,200 like a regime that is like values the running back 1471 01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:54,640 position. They just got this great season 1472 01:17:54,640 --> 01:17:56,440 out of Hubbard and they said, you know what, let's do, let's 1473 01:17:56,440 --> 01:17:58,000 spend a second round pick on Jonathan Brooks. 1474 01:17:58,000 --> 01:18:01,400 I would compare it to how the Rams took. 1475 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,800 I've always forget the order. Was it Henderson first or then 1476 01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,200 acres? But they took him back-to-back 1477 01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,160 years in the second round and then they took Kyron in the 1478 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,120 third round and then they took Blake Korum in the third round. 1479 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,920 I I would view it similarly to that. 1480 01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:17,600 Like I think the the Hubbard coming in and handling 80% of 1481 01:18:17,600 --> 01:18:21,120 the running back touches I think is UN unlikely. 1482 01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:27,720 Buffalo similar, Singletarian 3, then Mawson 3, then Cook at the 1483 01:18:27,720 --> 01:18:29,120 end of two. Basically the same. 1484 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:31,160 Just keep I I, I don't mind that. 1485 01:18:31,200 --> 01:18:34,800 I mean, I never want to draft running backs by, you know, day 1486 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,160 2 generally, but that's not terrible. 1487 01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:41,000 They could be, they could do Rico Dowdell, 2 years, 1488 01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:47,840 $16,000,000 La Quint Allen round four and that would be enough 1489 01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,160 for me. Like, I don't know if I love 1490 01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:53,360 Hubbard here. I, I, I like him. 1491 01:18:53,600 --> 01:18:58,840 I mean, he's kind of by ADP so far and big board by himself at 1492 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:03,480 the end of four. And so you're drafting Chase, 1493 01:19:03,480 --> 01:19:06,520 you know, like that's a little, maybe a little bit of a, not a 1494 01:19:06,520 --> 01:19:09,240 Hail Mary, but nice to get Hubbard there. 1495 01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:10,960 I think that's OK. I'd rather have Hubbard than 1496 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,920 Nixon who goes before him. See. 1497 01:19:13,080 --> 01:19:14,560 I'd rather have Nixon. You would. 1498 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:17,400 Yeah, you're, you're my guy here. 1499 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:22,480 Didn't we all, even as we were getting crushed all season by 1500 01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:25,280 these veteran running backs, didn't we feel like we knew not 1501 01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:28,400 to go back to it the next year? Well, it doesn't it doesn't 1502 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:33,080 matter if if it works or if it doesn't, but I just like I think 1503 01:19:33,880 --> 01:19:37,480 Joe Mixon is likely to get more carries and particularly more 1504 01:19:37,480 --> 01:19:40,760 goal line stuff like the Texans offense will just be better. 1505 01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:45,120 I I'm not like a 100% bought in on the Bryce Young, you know, 1506 01:19:45,120 --> 01:19:48,240 Steph Curry celebration resurgence, you know. 1507 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:54,320 Running back 14 is Kyron Williams and ADP 34 so late 3rd 1508 01:19:54,840 --> 01:20:02,240 Camara is 17 at pick 56, so getting toward the end of round 1509 01:20:02,240 --> 01:20:04,960 5. The only two running backs in 1510 01:20:04,960 --> 01:20:09,600 that span of two rounds, almost fully 2 rounds, are Mixon and 1511 01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:11,680 Hubbard. So interesting for draft 1512 01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:15,360 strategy that that's the case. Yeah. 1513 01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:17,440 Have you, how many shares of Camara do you guys have? 1514 01:20:18,080 --> 01:20:22,120 A lot, a lot. I learned my lesson man. 1515 01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:23,840 I'm just done. I'm done. 1516 01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,120 I'm I'm taking taking the old guys, taking shitty players. 1517 01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:30,360 Taking shitty old guys was like the meta last year. 1518 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:33,560 So to have no shitty old guys feels like a leak. 1519 01:20:34,240 --> 01:20:37,200 I I generally agree with you. I just said you might be I feel 1520 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:38,920 like with Camara it might be the wrong lesson. 1521 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:42,320 Like I agree on like the mix and stuff and J but like Camara like 1522 01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:46,520 legit even saw another worse gear than we had seen from him 1523 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,160 in previous years down the stretch last year. 1524 01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,880 And didn't you just say Kendry Miller is like one of your most 1525 01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:54,400 drafted? Yeah, because the Saints do not 1526 01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:56,680 have the like, there's the Saints are one of the teams that 1527 01:20:56,680 --> 01:21:00,360 if you ranked one through 32, who has the least resources to 1528 01:21:00,360 --> 01:21:03,640 just waste a round three pick on a running back, I think the 1529 01:21:03,640 --> 01:21:05,320 Saints would literally be bottom of the list. 1530 01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:07,880 They would literally they have they have, they have no 1531 01:21:07,880 --> 01:21:09,480 resources. They have no cap. 1532 01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,240 They they simply cannot afford to be like, you know what would 1533 01:21:13,240 --> 01:21:15,400 really work for this team? Dylan Sampson. 1534 01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:17,440 They'll do it, Yeah. That's what the Saints do, 1535 01:21:17,440 --> 01:21:19,120 though. They they never have resources. 1536 01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:20,640 And they still do it. You're so right. 1537 01:21:20,640 --> 01:21:24,320 You're so right. Yeah, I mean, I don't even hate 1538 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:28,000 playing it both directions either, but man, like paying 1539 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:33,440 more for Camara this year does really feel like paying for last 1540 01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:37,320 year's production. Like, shouldn't he be the same 1541 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:38,360 price? You know, it's like you got 1542 01:21:38,360 --> 01:21:41,760 baking in some decline that we saw at the end of the I mean, 1543 01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:43,760 we, we saw play out in the BRS, right? 1544 01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:47,320 Like he was a legit 1O11O2 for a lot of weeks during that 1545 01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:49,680 stretch. And then it's like slipping and 1546 01:21:49,920 --> 01:21:51,800 slipping and slipping until you're like, shit, this this 1547 01:21:51,800 --> 01:21:58,080 guy's even overpriced right now. Yeah, I mean he is a bad and no 1548 01:21:58,080 --> 01:21:59,880 juice. Like even it's so funny. 1549 01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:01,600 Go back and watch his game against the Cowboys. 1550 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:04,680 He's like slow motion walking into the end zone on some. 1551 01:22:04,720 --> 01:22:06,440 Like he doesn't. He's not good anymore. 1552 01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:10,280 But Joe Mixon is not good anymore. 1553 01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:11,720 Joe Mixon was not good last year. 1554 01:22:11,920 --> 01:22:13,640 I think you could make a pretty convincing argument. 1555 01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:16,120 Derrick Henry was not particularly good last year. 1556 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,840 Terry the guy takes that 122. Well, no, if you, if you think 1557 01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:24,240 about think about Derek Henry, think about your, your mental, 1558 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:26,600 like the my mental image of Derek Henry is always the 1559 01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,360 Thursday night game against Jacksonville where he was was 1560 01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:32,360 literally like picking defenders up and throwing them on the 1561 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,560 ground whilst scoring touchdowns. 1562 01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:37,280 Like Henry kind of just Lombard his way to a bunch of 1563 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:41,080 touchdowns, you know? Yeah, I mean, that's, that's 1564 01:22:41,120 --> 01:22:44,800 like, that's his entire career lumbering his way to a bunch of 1565 01:22:44,800 --> 01:22:46,400 touchdowns. Well, Kamera, why can't Kamera 1566 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:49,960 do that? Is Kellen Moore's new new, you 1567 01:22:49,960 --> 01:22:51,680 know, whatever. Like Zeera? 1568 01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:56,040 I would argue that he he Lombard his way to a bunch of 1569 01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:59,520 receptions, you know, like that. That's how he he was PPR 1570 01:22:59,520 --> 01:23:02,160 scamming his way up there and getting goal line carries. 1571 01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,840 Yeah, Kamara and Olave have almost identical ADP. 1572 01:23:06,840 --> 01:23:09,200 A lot of the. Saints were scoring 50 points a 1573 01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:12,040 game for two weeks, and Clint Kubiak and Clint Kubiak was the 1574 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:15,600 new greatest coach in the NFL. They decided that the things 1575 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:18,440 that they were doing that led to that they should stop doing 1576 01:23:18,440 --> 01:23:21,120 immediately so. Everyone just died. 1577 01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:22,480 The whole the whole team just died. 1578 01:23:22,480 --> 01:23:25,080 Eventually. Like their whole offensive line 1579 01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:28,800 was out. You know what the so the Saints, 1580 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:32,040 if I remember right, two and O, they blow somebody out, they 1581 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:35,440 blow Dallas out and they go home to. 1582 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:37,720 They were the Eagles. They were favored. 1583 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:40,640 Against the Eagles and the Eagles needed the Eagles needed 1584 01:23:40,640 --> 01:23:45,280 a crazy Dallas Godder like screen Long run to win the game. 1585 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:48,280 They they played Philadelphia. We didn't know what Philadelphia 1586 01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:49,880 was yet. They were still the team off the 1587 01:23:49,920 --> 01:23:53,000 late season collapse. And yeah, they were favored. 1588 01:23:54,440 --> 01:24:00,360 Tampa, by the way, this reminds me, beat Washington, Detroit and 1589 01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,600 Philadelphia in its first four games last year. 1590 01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:06,320 Not bad. They're a good team. 1591 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,360 Yeah, I like Olave. I know Pete, you and Pat were 1592 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:10,560 talking about. Am I keeping you? 1593 01:24:10,560 --> 01:24:13,120 Nope. No, not at all bro. 1594 01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:15,640 Not at all. You and Pat were talking about 1595 01:24:15,640 --> 01:24:18,240 Olave. It's the concussions that scares 1596 01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:20,240 me. But I feel like mid 5th OK. 1597 01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,280 Yeah. That that one I like I like 1598 01:24:24,280 --> 01:24:28,640 buying the the dip on, you know, he he's now lumped into, you 1599 01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:31,800 know, the the song and dance we do with Jalen Waddle, Devante 1600 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:35,120 Smith, T Higgins, where we kind of like wildly react to how 1601 01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,080 we're feeling about them. But the the advantage of Labe 1602 01:24:38,080 --> 01:24:42,000 has on those guys is he doesn't have a number 1A even, you know, 1603 01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:46,040 eating into his targets, right. So I. 1604 01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,800 Due respect to Shaheed Right, due respect to. 1605 01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,080 Yeah, I do have to respect Shahid now that, you know, 1606 01:24:52,120 --> 01:24:55,440 Cooter Doodle met him and he signed all three of her Shahid 1607 01:24:55,440 --> 01:24:57,360 jerseys. So I do need to put some respect 1608 01:24:57,360 --> 01:24:59,960 on on on his name for sure. But yeah, that price on Olave 1609 01:25:00,040 --> 01:25:02,840 seems, seems pretty nice. Shahid in round 8. 1610 01:25:05,240 --> 01:25:07,960 I'm taking him a lot, but he goes right next to Golden, who 1611 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:12,280 is gonna be Golden Might be like the 9th pick in the NFL draft. 1612 01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:14,080 People are. People are really. 1613 01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,120 Wow. He's going to show up to the 1614 01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:20,800 combine, weigh 185, run A43 flat and interview really well 1615 01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,200 because he went to Texas and people are going to be like, 1616 01:25:23,200 --> 01:25:26,080 wow, I guess. Guess we should have gotten woke 1617 01:25:26,080 --> 01:25:29,920 to this guy earlier. I I want to explain. 1618 01:25:29,920 --> 01:25:32,720 So I'm sort of, you know, chiding Pete almost. 1619 01:25:32,720 --> 01:25:34,520 Not really, but like, do you have to go? 1620 01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:37,080 Do you have to go? Because I don't have to go. 1621 01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:40,040 Like the, the thing I've even seen in the chat on your last 1622 01:25:40,040 --> 01:25:42,280 stream, Shope will get you out in one hour. 1623 01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,800 Don't worry about it. You got a marathon day. 1624 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:45,760 He'll get you out in one hour. Well, I don't know. 1625 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:47,960 We don't know if the viewers necessarily want that. 1626 01:25:48,760 --> 01:25:52,640 No, first of all. On ADP chasing, they love 1627 01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,600 tangents. I know myself because I'm a 1628 01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,000 viewer. They love going down the rabbit 1629 01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:00,880 holes and you know, we we're slowly like breaking you, right? 1630 01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:04,000 You know, you're this what what, what's the analogy I'm looking 1631 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:04,840 for? What is it? 1632 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,440 The horses that you have to break in? 1633 01:26:06,440 --> 01:26:08,280 You know, you are a broadcast horse. 1634 01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:11,040 You have your sensibilities, your insurance and outs. 1635 01:26:11,320 --> 01:26:14,600 So we're going to slowly break you, Crane Davis, when I hop on 1636 01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:18,000 myself and we're going to turn you into a true podcasting bro. 1637 01:26:18,160 --> 01:26:20,960 We're time. Time ceases to exist. 1638 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:24,680 And you can go down any tangent you want and no one's going to 1639 01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:27,320 come and say, come on Mike, we got to get to this next 1640 01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:29,680 commercial. I appreciate that as long as 1641 01:26:29,680 --> 01:26:33,520 life does not get in the way, which as it happens in terms of 1642 01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:35,600 this show usually, like that's when I've got to leave for work, 1643 01:26:35,600 --> 01:26:37,440 but can we get Pat out of bed earlier? 1644 01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:39,760 I think that's a lot to ask. We can. 1645 01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,320 We can push another half. An hour what I think on like the 1646 01:26:43,320 --> 01:26:45,680 the actual housekeeping note. I think you guys are going to 1647 01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:49,000 discuss and and we'll talk and and figure out it might not 1648 01:26:49,000 --> 01:26:53,280 always be at this exact time. Obviously Davis's streaming 1649 01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,000 schedule, my streaming schedule, trying to figure out what works 1650 01:26:56,000 --> 01:26:58,440 best for everyone. And I want to get it to where, 1651 01:26:58,440 --> 01:27:00,880 Mike, you can do longer shows and you don't have a heart out 1652 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,000 for that kind of stuff. So we'll we'll get to the bottom 1653 01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,080 of that. And as far as today, I'm I'm 1654 01:27:06,080 --> 01:27:08,520 just doing my marathon day because I'm going to to draft 1655 01:27:08,520 --> 01:27:10,040 with Davis whenever we wrap up here. 1656 01:27:10,040 --> 01:27:13,960 So so we're good, man. I had AI had a clear day and 1657 01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:16,440 spending it in the content minds with you guys. 1658 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:21,560 I took the week off because my teenage children don't have 1659 01:27:21,560 --> 01:27:26,040 school for February break. Yeah, and brilliantly decided 1660 01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:30,800 not to plan a trip anywhere. So we got 3 hockey practices at 1661 01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:32,960 least. Lacrosse, different things, 1662 01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:35,680 friends. I'll be in the slush most of the 1663 01:27:35,680 --> 01:27:38,360 week up here while all my all my friends and their kids are in 1664 01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:41,440 Florida. Slush man. 1665 01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:43,640 That's the choice. The slush is not it. 1666 01:27:44,120 --> 01:27:48,920 It's 4° out here this week. I was, I was down so bad 1667 01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,840 yesterday because we had all the, the slush and the sleet and 1668 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:56,080 stuff and my neighbors on, you know, February vacation with 1669 01:27:56,080 --> 01:27:59,040 their family and he like hits me up and he's like, my 1670 01:27:59,040 --> 01:28:01,280 mother-in-law is coming over to feed the cats. 1671 01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,720 Could you take, was there any chance you could come and like 1672 01:28:04,720 --> 01:28:07,320 do snow removal for me? And he's, he's done a lot of 1673 01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:08,840 stuff for me. So this was like, I had to pay, 1674 01:28:08,840 --> 01:28:11,800 but I was just like miserable. Having to snow blow and clear 1675 01:28:11,800 --> 01:28:16,560 snow and sleet and slush for two driveways yesterday wasn't 1676 01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,600 exactly how I wanted to spend my my first football free Sunday. 1677 01:28:20,400 --> 01:28:22,960 We got to, I thought. I thought maybe we'd get to like 1678 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:28,160 DC, you know, 50s go as far South as you need to so where 1679 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,240 you can wear shorts. But this turned out to not be 1680 01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:33,360 that week. You're cold or in the Midwest, 1681 01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:35,760 Davis. And they're like 24 in snow on 1682 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,000 Wednesday in Washington. So there was really no move. 1683 01:28:39,680 --> 01:28:43,160 So what Mike, what was your, what was your favorite pick that 1684 01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:46,520 you made in your your early fantasy draft over the weekend? 1685 01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:53,400 OK. So 14 teams and we just expanded 1686 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:58,560 this year from 12 to 14 with with Nick in it and different 1687 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:03,680 friends. 14 is tough. 14 is tough and super flexed, so we 1688 01:29:03,680 --> 01:29:08,000 made the decision to go to team QB and everybody's going to pick 1689 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,520 two and only two. That's that's. 1690 01:29:09,520 --> 01:29:11,360 Smart, I think. That's cool, yeah. 1691 01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:15,240 You take the rookies out of it and you're just drafting teams, 1692 01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:17,560 so I picked 11th. We do a random thing where you 1693 01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,320 pick your draft slot and I picked 11th and I thought well 1694 01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:25,360 the the 1st 4 quarterbacks, Buffalo, Baltimore, Washington, 1695 01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:28,800 Philadelphia could be the first 4 picks and we'll see. 1696 01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:32,280 And my plan was the more quarterbacks that get picked in 1697 01:29:32,280 --> 01:29:36,200 front of me, the better because if those four are gone, which I 1698 01:29:36,200 --> 01:29:38,760 would expect to be the case, I'm going to wait all day. 1699 01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:43,360 So the first 3 picks were Buffalo, Baltimore, Washington 1700 01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:46,000 and Hertz fell to 11:00. So I did that. 1701 01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,880 Yeah, they did maybe the smart thing. 1702 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:53,040 I mean, I think Hertz was worth it, but all the Chase, Barkley, 1703 01:29:53,040 --> 01:29:56,320 Gibbs guys went in that range were tight end, premium 2, 1704 01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:59,160 Bowers was the 104. In that draft. 1705 01:30:00,320 --> 01:30:03,160 And that makes sense. We the format is exactly the 1706 01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,920 deep end Invitational format. So it's two quarterbacks and 1707 01:30:05,920 --> 01:30:08,000 tight end premium every three receivers start. 1708 01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:11,840 Try to make it as you know, reasonable to pick any different 1709 01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:16,520 position at any time. So I started Hertz and then 1710 01:30:17,560 --> 01:30:20,040 Neighbors. Nice. 1711 01:30:21,040 --> 01:30:22,520 What was your what was your tight end? 1712 01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:24,440 When did you did you get an elite tight end? 1713 01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:32,040 Got hert for Hertz in seven, Otten in nine and elite tight 1714 01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:33,760 end for sure. Some no name later. 1715 01:30:33,760 --> 01:30:35,920 Yeah, no, didn't happen. Didn't fall that way for me. 1716 01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,880 The four the team at 4 went Bowers Kittle to start. 1717 01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:44,720 Where you guys all at on the The Bowers Underdog ADP? 1718 01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:48,120 Too rich, just perfect or too cheap? 1719 01:30:48,600 --> 01:30:51,400 Definition of the 4% exposure blanket, I think. 1720 01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:55,200 Like it's clearly a too rich. It's just clearly a preposterous 1721 01:30:55,760 --> 01:30:59,440 ADP given that it's likely not going to be a good offense. 1722 01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:03,520 Like he's got to score a lot of touchdowns, but he is very 1723 01:31:03,520 --> 01:31:07,400 clearly the best fantasy tight end and you just do not want to 1724 01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:12,120 have none of that guy. I'll tell you what, it'll 1725 01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,040 totally change for me in tight end premium, though, where where 1726 01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:21,040 10 for 80 is just a giga smash. Yeah, he it's yeah, if it's the 1727 01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:24,800 the thing about the thing about Bowers is, is the touchdown 1728 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:28,640 production just based on the offense that he was in and is 1729 01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,320 going to be in, I think is going to be like fairly limited. 1730 01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:32,800 He scored five touchdowns last year. 1731 01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,920 Maybe he gets to 8 this year, you know? 1732 01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,160 What about you, Mike? You like his price? 1733 01:31:39,920 --> 01:31:41,600 You know, I, I don't feel really differently. 1734 01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:45,200 I'm I'm on McBride a lot at the end of 223 turn. 1735 01:31:46,440 --> 01:31:51,680 I I think I'd rather do that. And then really it's just pick 1736 01:31:51,680 --> 01:31:54,720 your your favorite, like your your flavor after that, the rest 1737 01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,800 of the draft, like nobody really needs to come in after that. 1738 01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,560 After those three guys, Laporta, I mean all of them. 1739 01:32:00,920 --> 01:32:06,160 Jonnu Smith goes in the eighth round in big board ahead of 1740 01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:07,840 Tyler Warren. I mean, just have your 1741 01:32:07,840 --> 01:32:09,680 favorites, get your stacks, whatever. 1742 01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:12,960 So I think McBride is my favorite tight end pick. 1743 01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:18,360 Yeah, I have no problem with the Bowers price, but I get it. 1744 01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:21,000 I think Ajoku is my favorite tight end pick. 1745 01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:25,880 That was the one that stood out to me like before the Kelsey 1746 01:32:25,880 --> 01:32:28,480 slide where I was like Travis Kelsey, who's likely to retire 1747 01:32:28,480 --> 01:32:31,560 is going before David Dejoku right now, which seemed wild to 1748 01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,600 me. Yeah, like if Kirk Cousins is 1749 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:36,480 the, if Kirk Cousins just turns into Joe Flacco, just like 1750 01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:39,600 feeding David Dejoku tight end screens, that's gonna that's 1751 01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:43,040 gonna feed families. I'm not picking Kelsey at all, 1752 01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:47,840 just feel like it's. Gonna be a couple times with 1753 01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:50,800 Mahomes in like round 14 when he's fallen or something. 1754 01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:54,440 Because like, you can just do the exercise of, OK, so you knew 1755 01:32:54,440 --> 01:32:56,800 for a fact that Travis Kelsey was going to play this year. 1756 01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,560 She says I'm coming back or whatever. 1757 01:32:58,600 --> 01:33:01,200 Like he's going to go back to where he was at like what? 1758 01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:04,880 Pick 100, You know, basically like, So what are you gaining? 1759 01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:09,360 You're gaining like 20-30 picks of value from like round 13 to 1760 01:33:09,360 --> 01:33:11,200 round 10. I mean, I don't know like that. 1761 01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,440 Just wait to draft him and avoid the zero risk and eat the cost 1762 01:33:15,440 --> 01:33:19,680 of of him moving back up to 100. I think the guys we talked about 1763 01:33:19,680 --> 01:33:25,960 earlier in that 12th round ish range at tight end are really a 1764 01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,040 good idea. I mean Craft I think is a is a 1765 01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:30,560 good pick. I think likely is a good pick. 1766 01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:34,000 Loveland is a good pick, Ferguson maybe even Pitts, 1767 01:33:35,400 --> 01:33:38,280 certainly Otten. So I want to have, you know, one 1768 01:33:38,280 --> 01:33:41,200 or two like I did in that draft, we just talked about one or two 1769 01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:46,560 of those guys. Yeah, Yeah, it is. 1770 01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:48,400 I think I did. Yeah. 1771 01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,240 I took Loveland in in my first draft this morning. 1772 01:33:52,880 --> 01:33:57,160 Yeah, Titan doesn't feel. Titan didn't feel as bad to 1773 01:33:57,160 --> 01:33:59,640 draft as quarterback did. Like you feel like you can get 1774 01:33:59,640 --> 01:34:02,560 in some bad spots with with quarterback, but Titan didn't 1775 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:06,520 feel too gross to me. Where where is Pat? 1776 01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:12,400 I believe his parents are in town this week so just taking a 1777 01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,960 little time off but he's going to be we'll be back for ship 1778 01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,760 chasing on Thursday so at our our normal time. 1779 01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,360 Also one other PSA thing I wanted to remember, and this guy 1780 01:34:22,440 --> 01:34:26,040 just got posted in the discord. So we're going to be planning 1781 01:34:26,440 --> 01:34:29,440 our ship chasing meet up for this year. 1782 01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:31,920 We've generally kind of just defaulted to doing Vegas right 1783 01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,680 before the season starts. But every year we're like, we're 1784 01:34:34,840 --> 01:34:37,960 trying to get our asses in gear to do something else. 1785 01:34:38,200 --> 01:34:40,640 And so we got some wheels spinning. 1786 01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,840 Definitely going to give the Discord peeps first crack at 1787 01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:45,840 kind of letting us know what works for them, what dates. 1788 01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:48,240 So if you are YouTube members and you're in the discord that's 1789 01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:51,440 now pinned, there's a survey shout out Charlie line of 1790 01:34:51,440 --> 01:34:53,360 scrimmage for getting that together for us. 1791 01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,200 Going to help organize with that. 1792 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,160 So if you guys are interested in a ship chasing summer, meet up, 1793 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,320 hop in there, fill up that form and then we'll have more details 1794 01:35:02,680 --> 01:35:07,960 in the future for that. The slush will have melted by 1795 01:35:07,960 --> 01:35:10,680 then, just so everybody, you know, realizes that. 1796 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,080 And golf with Davis. Is that something that is is 1797 01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:16,080 that on in the pole? Saint Louis. 1798 01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,400 Well, that's going to be the next leg of this enterprise is 1799 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:23,440 seeing if we can convince Davis to to leave his house to come 1800 01:35:23,440 --> 01:35:26,480 meet up with strangers and non strangers from the Internet. 1801 01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:30,960 Man, that is there's going to have to be quite, quite the 1802 01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:33,480 festivity to get me a leave in my house. 1803 01:35:33,520 --> 01:35:35,040 I'm I'm not going to lie to you guys. 1804 01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:38,360 You went to the underdog party with your wife sick to watch the 1805 01:35:38,360 --> 01:35:40,080 Super Bowl. I feel like there's some hope we 1806 01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,920 can. 10 minutes, 10 minutes from my house, brother didn't have to 1807 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,840 get on an airplane to do that. Didn't have to, didn't have to 1808 01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,120 get a sitter for my dog. Didn't have to, you know, 1809 01:35:48,120 --> 01:35:52,400 schedule out a week at YouTube videos in in advance, you know, 1810 01:35:52,720 --> 01:35:56,600 but I'm not saying I'm definitely not saying no good. 1811 01:35:56,840 --> 01:35:58,680 You guys could all come here and we could all golf. 1812 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:00,320 I will. I will say that you guys could 1813 01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:01,640 all come here. There's a could be a group 1814 01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,760 couple. I would, I would love to do a 1815 01:36:04,200 --> 01:36:07,680 little weekend trip go to or you go to a Cardinals game or 1816 01:36:07,680 --> 01:36:09,960 something. I'll be there in April, Yeah, 1817 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,400 I'll be there in April when the Cardinals are home to start the 1818 01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,400 season. So maybe 90%. 1819 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:17,520 Do you golf show? I do. 1820 01:36:18,120 --> 01:36:19,680 OK, we'll go. We'll go. 1821 01:36:19,680 --> 01:36:23,040 We'll go golf. This is my This is my driver. 1822 01:36:25,080 --> 01:36:28,000 I was like, what is this? So what, you spank your 1823 01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:29,440 children? With that's very on. 1824 01:36:29,480 --> 01:36:30,760 Brand, How dare you? Yeah, how dare you? 1825 01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:36,400 Yeah, sorry, no more spanking. All right, So, Davis, we're 1826 01:36:36,400 --> 01:36:37,720 gonna we're gonna go draft teams. 1827 01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:39,800 Yes, right now. Let's do it. 1828 01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:41,440 Yes, literally. Literally right now. 1829 01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:45,160 Thank you, guys. Pete, great to be with you here 1830 01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:46,840 today. Thanks for making this happen. 1831 01:36:46,920 --> 01:36:50,400 Davis talk to you next week. Goodbye.