1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:05,120 All right, today on ship chasing, a post NFL draft 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:09,680 dynasty mock draft super flex tight end premium Ray G is not 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,440 here, but just for everyone. This is not a dynasty startup 4 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,200 draft. This is a rookie draft. 5 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:18,200 Got to make sure that I clarify the settings and to help Davis 6 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:20,440 and I out. We got two of our faves here, 7 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:24,480 late round QB, a white whale on this show that we finally reined 8 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,280 in to get on the show and of course, Daddy Kelly from the 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,360 Ringer. Let's do it. 10 00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:39,040 It's ship chasing Pat Fryer, Helmo, Anita, Handjob. 11 00:00:39,160 --> 00:00:43,600 Fix your sight. Jamar and Alpha play chase you. 12 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,320 Can't handle the heat. It looks like we're finally at 13 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:59,000 this point, you're right. All right, JJ, excited to have 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,280 you. I know you got some family 15 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,240 commitments. I am vaguely worried that your 16 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:05,200 daughter is waiting at the bus stop for you right now, but you 17 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,040 had to be here. Is she? 18 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:10,000 Is she picked up? My, my, my wife is working from 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:11,800 home today. So we're we're good to go there. 20 00:01:11,800 --> 00:01:14,080 But yeah, the last time you guys did, you guys did the the pre 21 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,920 draft, rookie draft, it was the weird text exchange with Davis 22 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,680 and then Kitchen made a big deal out of it and then it was. 23 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:25,280 Weird text exchange. No, no, no, look, it was, I'll, 24 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,800 I'll blame Kitchen for making a bigger deal about it than it 25 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,840 was, you know, at the time. He, he by the way, Kitchen is, 26 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:36,960 is back in Tennessee officially. He he, he messaged me whenever 27 00:01:36,960 --> 00:01:40,880 he, he got back to, to his house and I, I asked him if he saw if 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:43,400 that there was a new Pope. So as we know, there's a new 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:46,640 Pope and I then I said, oh, wait, I'm sure your text thread 30 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:50,280 is really upset. The woke Pope. 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:52,480 You know what? He responded. 32 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:55,640 He said they were happy because Trump got got the new Pope a 33 00:01:55,640 --> 00:02:01,840 lot. Wow, wait till they find the new 34 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,240 Pope's tweets about JD Vandal, because they'll. 35 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,160 Be. Upset Danny, welcome back. 36 00:02:08,160 --> 00:02:09,720 I think last time you were on was the ship cast. 37 00:02:09,759 --> 00:02:13,160 So nice to have a little more chill environment here today. 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:14,680 How have you been? I've been excellent. 39 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,200 Thank you for having me on. Appreciate it. 40 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,360 Yeah, for sure. How are you guys in as many 41 00:02:19,360 --> 00:02:21,040 dynasty drafts? Is is Davis? 42 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,480 Is your inbox just non-stop? You know, MFL and sleeper 43 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:28,840 notifications right now? Yeah, I think I'm, I'm in four 44 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,920 or five right now, but I've finished another four or five. 45 00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:36,560 So pretty solid feel for kind of what the ADP is so far pretty 46 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:38,800 fun. You know, Danny and I did a did 47 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,600 a trade last week. And I saw you wrote about that 48 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:43,640 bro. I, I I. 49 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:45,520 Fleeced this dude from the Raider. 50 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,720 So I built. Them into protege dug the no 51 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,920 ball. So that was actually the one. 52 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,520 So, so I, you know, it's a slow time in the football calendar 53 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:57,800 and stuff. And so I'm like, all right, I'll 54 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,400 send a newsletter out just analyzing 2 recent trades I did 55 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,200 and one of them was with Danny. I didn't put the person's name 56 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,080 next to it, but now that it's out there. 57 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,400 But regardless, the, the trade, it was a one for one. 58 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:14,320 OK, I, I gave up Roma Dunze and then I got the one O 8 and the 59 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:16,200 rookie drive in our superflex draft, right. 60 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:21,720 And the newsletter then made its way to Reddit and Reddit has 61 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,440 been, dude, Danny, Reddit is, is probably 75% on your side with 62 00:03:26,440 --> 00:03:29,320 that, right? But it's been like, you know, 63 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:32,040 I'll, I'll go to war with some folks on, on Reddit sometimes. 64 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:33,880 You guys can go check that out. Yeah, I don't know if that's a 65 00:03:33,880 --> 00:03:37,920 good thing for you daddy, to be popular over on on Reddit or 66 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:41,480 not. Well, at this point I I need the 67 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,880 refresher. What was the trade? 68 00:03:43,040 --> 00:03:46,920 So the trade was so I gave up Rome and I moved up to the 108 69 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:49,600 because of the logic behind it. And I'm gonna actually do like a 70 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:52,800 a pretty in depth episode of of on Tuesday for the later on 71 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:56,280 podcast of it being sort of like like, you know why? 72 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,160 Like I I think it's just a really good example of like a 73 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,440 trade where you could easily lean either way. 74 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:03,560 And it's just dependent upon like how your teams is situated 75 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,520 and how you're thinking about the Gray area of fantasy 76 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:07,280 football and stuff. But regardless with. 77 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,720 Their burdens big strong muscles is that boiled down to but. 78 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:14,280 Like regardless, my thought process behind it was worst case 79 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,200 at one O 8, you're getting a Mechagbuka basically and rookie 80 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,200 drafts right now, right? And I wasn't necessarily hoping 81 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,840 for that because my team in that league is pretty good at wide 82 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:25,040 receiver and it's pretty weak at running back because it's just 83 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,160 the way that I team build. And this was the year that I was 84 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,080 going to kind of go in on running back and hope to 85 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:31,520 compete. And so I traded, you know, I got 86 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,640 the one O 8 and I'm like, OK, I'm going to get Trayvion at one 87 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:37,960 O 6 because I had the one O 6 and then maybe Quenche on would 88 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:41,320 fall, you know, one spot got past ADP and I'd be able to get 89 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:43,080 him at one O 8. And then I realized that wasn't 90 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:45,000 going to happen. So I actually moved up one spot 91 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:47,920 to to get Judkins by just kind of throwing 1/3 in there. 92 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:50,360 But that was my thought process behind it. 93 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,280 Because like, to me, it's kind of like a, a re roll in a way 94 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:56,720 with a buka. If you were to you know, if, if, 95 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:01,440 if, if I were to, to pick him. But people are very, very into 96 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:05,640 Rome and, and now, now I feel I, I sent a tweet about this, but 97 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,960 now I feel even worse about trading away Roman Dunze because 98 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:10,840 you get a Pope from Chicago and a guy named Rome on the first 99 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,360 roster. I mean my odd. 100 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:17,040 The signs are all lighting up. I will say when I got that trade 101 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,680 request, I was I went and read this is so funny. 102 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:22,200 Like industry, you know. Like. 103 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:25,240 Leagues or whatever, I went and read, I went and read your 104 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,280 prospect in the prospect guide, in the late round prospect 105 00:05:28,280 --> 00:05:29,880 guide. You have a whole like section on 106 00:05:29,880 --> 00:05:32,920 Yeah. And I was like, so is he lying? 107 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:35,720 Here or what? 'Cause I don't hate Rome, right? 108 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:36,840 No, you're right. You're right. 109 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:39,440 I'm glad that you're saying that because people think that I hate 110 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,240 Roma Dunze. It was more so just like, that's 111 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:43,560 a trade. I think that's a trade where I 112 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,440 could have gone either way. It was just that for that 113 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,760 particular team build, I think it made sense and I couldn't 114 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,320 trade him to the one O 7 spot because he had DJ Moore in his 115 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:50,960 roster. He wasn't. 116 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,440 Going to do it. I was I was sufficiently nervous 117 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,520 making the trade that I don't think it's like a bad trade. 118 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,720 It's it's one of those things where you know, you, you don't 119 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:00,400 just rush to hit accept or whatever. 120 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:03,640 I was like, I don't know, like I'm getting. 121 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,920 Ripped. In the way that you defend it in 122 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,520 terms of just, you know, a lot of guys that don't do much their 123 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,560 rookie year end up not doing much in their career. 124 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:18,400 So I kind of just went off of like the 2024 evaluation of him 125 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:20,720 prior to the season and kind of just hope for the best on this. 126 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:22,840 But I don't think it's, I don't think it was a crazy trade at 127 00:06:22,840 --> 00:06:23,480 all. I was. 128 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,520 That's enough, yeah. Yeah, I think it was fair. 129 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,320 We're both. We'll both be better after the 130 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:29,080 fact. Yeah. 131 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:31,920 There you go. All right, here's what we're 132 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,600 going to do. Very similar to what we did last 133 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:36,800 time, actually, exactly like we did last time. 134 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,920 You know, I thought we could pull this up real quickly or 135 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,840 maybe we can kind of compare after Davis getting Travis 136 00:06:42,840 --> 00:06:45,880 Hunter at 8:00 in our pre draft version. 137 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:49,440 Still pretty tilted about there because I was going to snap pick 138 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,240 him at 9:00. We'll just snowball, you know, 139 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,560 shudder. Sanders to Mr. Pat Crane, that 140 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,000 is not looking too good at Pick 12. 141 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:03,920 That didn't age well. Signupforhisdynastyranks@legup.com 142 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,680 But So what I'm going to do, we're going to go to random.org 143 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,360 here. I've put given us each three 144 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,600 slots, so we will each get 3 picks and we'll get through a 145 00:07:16,600 --> 00:07:17,920 couple of rounds talk through the picks. 146 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:19,520 Daniel, I'll give you the honors. 147 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,320 How many times should I randomize this to determine the 148 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,320 order? 4. 149 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,680 Four OK. And last time I did it, Ray G 150 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,280 told the top 2 picks. So there's one, there's 2 Davis 151 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,040 with the top three in this iteration, 3 and four. 152 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:42,040 Oh my goodness, JJ, whoa 3. In the and it's the top 4. 153 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:45,600 This is just damn it, easy game easy. 154 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:49,000 That is, that is brutal. All right. 155 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,360 Congratulations, JJ, on your run. 156 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Good. Do you want to take Josh Allen 157 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,840 here like Ray, or do you have a different direction you'd like? 158 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,360 You know it's hilarious. I was able to tune in for like 5 159 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,240 minutes. I think I even commented on the 160 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,160 on the feed just like like thanking you guys for the 161 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,280 invite. But I the only part that I got 162 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:12,760 to see was when Ray didn't realize that was a rookie draft. 163 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,760 It's on me. We love you, Ray. 164 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:18,200 We'll go Ash and Genti with the one-on-one. 165 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,000 Yeah, and speak on that, this is a show. 166 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,920 So pretty good, pretty good. No. 167 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:31,320 That really got. Me, I'm never coming back. 168 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,080 On this Mark, Mark Zuckerberg over here. 169 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,400 I think that was, I think it was just the the Pete saying speak 170 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,919 on that. Really horrible out of nowhere. 171 00:08:42,640 --> 00:08:45,240 Yeah, Genti, Genti in the, in the ZAP model, which I'll 172 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,560 reference a lot on this show, people will probably get annoyed 173 00:08:47,560 --> 00:08:50,440 by. He's a second best ZAP score, 174 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,480 which goes back to 2011. Only CMC has a higher score. 175 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:58,120 My projections have him as a top 6 running back in, in redraft. 176 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:00,840 So you're going to get, you know, the, the production right 177 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:02,040 away from him. You're not going to have to 178 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,920 wait. I mean, the, the, it's a perfect 179 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:07,480 situation for him to see 300 touches his rookie year. 180 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:12,600 So I'm, I'm into Gente. I'm not worried about really his 181 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,560 like height. It's not even a size thing. 182 00:09:14,560 --> 00:09:18,440 It's a height thing for him. I'm not worried about the the 183 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:21,080 lack of receiving profile because two years ago he 184 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:24,040 actually had pretty awesome receiving numbers and he was 185 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,480 efficient as a pass catcher. I think all around he's just an 186 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:31,320 an unbelievably good prospect. Danny, have you pulled off any 187 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:36,560 trades for Genti or trading away out of the One O 1 for a haul? 188 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:41,080 I have not, but I, I kind of do subscribe to the idea that it's 189 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,520 OK to give up a pretty big haul to get Genti. 190 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:46,320 I kind of feel like in a, in prepping, just thinking through 191 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,320 my pick right now, I, I don't, I think the number two pick, 192 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:52,040 there's a, there's a Tier 1, which is Genti only in my 193 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:52,760 opinion. And then? 194 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,360 Danny I I did it in the league you and I are in together. 195 00:09:55,680 --> 00:09:57,920 What did you get? I forget, Is that the DFB league 196 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,400 or whatever? Yes, I gave up what ended up 197 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,560 being a a pretty crazy haul because it was pre draft so the 198 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:07,280 guy got Hunter, but I gave up to Theo Greminger. 199 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:09,680 I gave up the 15, the 1/6 and the 1/8. 200 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:12,400 Don't, don't say the numbers. Tell me what they ended up 201 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:13,600 being. Travis Hunter. 202 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,120 There's like a bunch. I mean I could pull them right 203 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,320 now. Travian, they were they he 204 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:24,920 smashed every he got CLV on like every pick though it so it was 205 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:29,400 Tet Hunter and Loveland, so pretty good. 206 00:10:29,560 --> 00:10:32,120 I would still yeah, I would still take my side. 207 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:36,760 I'd given the given the context of this specific team I have and 208 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,640 then in another league. This one's pretty interesting. 209 00:10:39,640 --> 00:10:42,720 This is actually more of an overarching dynasty strategy. 210 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:45,200 I'll be quick with my picks Pete, because this is going to 211 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,600 take at least like 8. Minutes no I I I quite literally 212 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,000 asked you guys to speak on it now we're. 213 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaking so JJ, in a league that's a, it's a copycat league 214 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:56,840 to the one you and I were in together, that you just left, 215 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:58,600 that Neil took over for you. Yeah. 216 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,160 I have the worst team in dynasty history. 217 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:06,960 I have it's a 30 man best ball superflex Titan premium. 218 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:10,640 I had eight players who scored over 100 points last season in 219 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:17,000 in full PPR 88 players. I believe my cumulative 220 00:11:17,000 --> 00:11:19,880 basketball scoring for 17 weeks was 800 points. 221 00:11:19,880 --> 00:11:22,600 I believe I'd have to go look it up, but I think it was so this 222 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,720 is full on tank. I have no assets. 223 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:27,880 I have nothing. I'm I'm Malik neighbors. 224 00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:31,400 That's it. I'd obviously had the 101, 225 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,800 right? By the time Ashton Gente is on 226 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,440 his second contract, maybe I'd be ready to compete. 227 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:44,560 So I traded Genti away for a 2026 first, a 2027 first, a 2026 228 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:47,840 second and a 2027 second because that was the best offer. 229 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:51,000 That was the best no one else was willing to add. 230 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,600 And that is a shitty offer it that you you would you would 231 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,560 rather have. Genti. 232 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,360 No one else in the league was willing to give up multiple 233 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,040 firsts. Why didn't you wait and just and 234 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,280 just have genti? Part of the reason is this 235 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,560 league is not that active, so it's actually it's actually like 236 00:12:09,680 --> 00:12:11,800 the during the rookie draft. That's the only time. 237 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:13,040 Trade's done. Is it because? 238 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:16,880 Our locked conversations happen in a app called GroupMe that 239 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,120 maybe 1 participant repeat. The group Oh, Pete. 240 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:21,280 Oh, by the way, The funny thing is Peter's actually in this 241 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,440 league, but he wouldn't know this happened because he doesn't 242 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,200 pay attention. That sounds like that sounds 243 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,000 like the most Silva thing of all times. 244 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,400 Silva's there's Silva's definitely in like 8 dynasty 245 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:34,360 leagues that he hasn't touched in six years like like he's he 246 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,720 just, he just joins and just forgets that he's in there but. 247 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:38,120 Here, let's even close this loop. 248 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:41,640 The team that I traded to get Genti from that Theo owns was 249 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,560 Silva's old team that he hadn't checked in about. 250 00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:49,080 Two years, I think. I think one of those first was 251 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,720 mine too. Davis, actually, yeah, it was. 252 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:55,320 My team sucks. In a it was a it was a Geno 253 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:55,960 Smith. Trade. 254 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,560 I know this was like 2 years ago. 255 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,120 That might be This might be the most Davis Maddox story of all 256 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:05,360 time. Just massively overpaid for him 257 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,240 in one league and massively underpaid for him in the other. 258 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,280 Yeah. Here here's every Every league 259 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,880 is different. Peter the thing that's annoyed 260 00:13:12,880 --> 00:13:16,200 me with with Genti is are the people who have the one O 1 and 261 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,920 they just don't make the pick to get the draft. 262 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:20,400 Like if someone's trading for the one O 1, they're trading for 263 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:21,600 Ash and Genti just make the prime. 264 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:23,960 And then I did Genti later. I. 265 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:28,000 Stayed I stayed on the clock for 8 hours messaging everyone in 266 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,840 the league saying come and get genti brother. 267 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:32,600 No, literally. Hey. 268 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,400 I typed, I typed in the GroupMe and I said Leoni has the best 269 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,400 offer. Going once, going twice and then 270 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:44,400 didn't pick him for. Three more hours. 271 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,600 All right, Danny, what I like to say in this year's dynasty 272 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:51,640 drafts is the draft really starts at 2, and that is 273 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,200 certainly the case here for you kind of choose your own 274 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:55,800 adventure at 2. Curious where you're going. 275 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,480 So I've got Hampton here. I think it just kind of depends. 276 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:02,360 Obviously if you need a quarterback, Cam Ward makes 277 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:07,360 sense, but Hampton in terms of draft capital overall, you know, 278 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,600 just quality of a prospect. He's super explosive 279 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:15,360 accelerator, tackle breaker production, you know, like the 280 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,440 perfect size and he went he he went to assist A-Team here in 281 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:22,320 the Chargers who just you know, are going to run the piss out of 282 00:14:22,320 --> 00:14:28,960 the ball. So and and obviously, like the I 283 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,560 do kind of worry that Greg Roman isn't going to be there forever. 284 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,080 I think that would be like maybe the one thing to worry about. 285 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:36,720 But overall you you're attached to a really good quarterback. 286 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:41,040 You know, you're attached to a good coach in Harbaugh and a 287 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,200 good team. I think the the floor is really, 288 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:45,160 really safe here. And I think he's obviously going 289 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:50,000 to supplant Naji really quickly. So I don't know, you could talk 290 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:54,760 me into Hunter here, of course, but I'm just slightly more just 291 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:56,560 going Hampton here slightly, slightly above him. 292 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:04,280 Yeah, he he seems very likely to emerge almost no matter what 293 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,200 happens this year with really high trade value. 294 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:09,560 Because the worst thing is it's like he's in a committee but 295 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:12,200 flashes and everyone's like, well, he's the bell cow back 296 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,440 next year. So I'm I'm still in on it. 297 00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:17,240 JJ, who do you, who do you have too? 298 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,480 And maybe if it's not him, then you're obviously taking him with 299 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,280 your your third pick here. Now I have Hampton too, but I 300 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:26,040 think like most people, I have sort of just like a giant tear 301 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,000 from 2:00 to 5:00 where you could go Ward, you could go with 302 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,880 one of the two wide outs, or you can go with Hampton. 303 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:32,880 I have Hampton too. Just I, I think there's just a 304 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,160 ton of safety as as Danny was alluding to, you know, Greg 305 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:37,400 Roman. The interesting thing with Greg 306 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:40,880 Roman is like his backfields are always good. 307 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:43,680 They're not always like excellent in terms of fantasy 308 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,160 production because they don't throw the ball to the running 309 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:47,040 back at all. They averaged since Greg Roman's 310 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,880 been offensive coordinator, they've averaged a rank in 311 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,840 running back target share of 26th per season. 312 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:56,120 And so the the nice part is, though, I don't know if any of 313 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,120 us really believe that Amari and Hampton was going to be some 314 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:00,320 plus in the receiving game. You know, he's not that kind of 315 00:16:00,320 --> 00:16:02,680 running back. So it's from a situation 316 00:16:02,680 --> 00:16:05,800 standpoint like this is probably close to as good as it could get 317 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,280 for him. You know, I think Denver would 318 00:16:07,280 --> 00:16:09,680 have probably just been a better spot just because the line's 319 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,680 there and the situation's there and he could have gotten fed and 320 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:14,960 gotten more of those, like cheaper receptions. 321 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:19,000 But yeah, I mean, if you look at history, a player draft at the 322 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,360 end of, you know, the back half of the first round, their hit 323 00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:24,520 rates, being in RB1 at some point, you know, over their 324 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,520 career is, are giving us an RB one season is greater than 50%. 325 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:32,480 You know, if I, I looked in the, in the ZAP model of guys who had 326 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:36,120 top 100 draft capital, 110 plus speed scores and best season 327 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:39,640 reception shares above 15%, it's only been DeMarco Murray, Todd 328 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,160 Gurley, Saquon Barkley, Jameer Gibbs, and now Amari and 329 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:44,960 Hampton. So he's, he's in a very, very 330 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,840 good place in terms of like, I think he's a lock to give us at 331 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,800 least multiple like RB2 seasons over his first three years. 332 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,280 You know, is the RB one season in this range of outcomes? 333 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:57,440 Of course, I don't know if he'll necessarily get there, but he's 334 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,240 he's at least a really safe asset in my opinion. 335 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,800 Yep. Who? 336 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:07,839 Who do you take 3 then? JJ, like Danny said, pretty flat 337 00:17:07,839 --> 00:17:10,200 tier here that you could shuffle up, but you do have the next two 338 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:13,160 picks, so you get the luxury of getting both you guys here? 339 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,079 Yeah. Yeah. 340 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,800 I mean like, are we, am I supposed to be acting like these 341 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:19,880 are two separate teams that have different needs? 342 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:22,800 I'd actually like you to play 3 distinct characters. 343 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:29,000 One's an Australian, one's the new Pope and the other is a 14 344 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,880 year old. Yeah, we'll be doing that, but. 345 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:36,400 Let's take in Loveland here. I'll go. 346 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:38,760 I'll go. Yeah, exactly. 347 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:39,440 I'll go. I'll go. 348 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,120 Travis Hunter next. OK, I you know, I've said it 349 00:17:44,120 --> 00:17:47,160 before, probably even said it with you guys during the draft 350 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:48,480 season. I at least talked to like Karain 351 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:51,160 about it. Like Travis Hunter's analytical 352 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:53,360 profile isn't that good. Like it's not, it's not bad. 353 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:57,280 I'm just saying it's not like as elite as folks talk about Travis 354 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:58,880 Hunter. You know, Harmon's charting him 355 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,040 and saying, and it's the best prospect he's ever charted 356 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,400 before. And you know, his numbers are, 357 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,840 are good, but for first round wide receivers, they're not, 358 00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:11,120 they're not that great. Like he had a 66th percentile or 359 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:15,880 a breakout score of 66, which is a is a metric that I use that 360 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,520 adjust for a program strength and age and it looks at 361 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,040 receiving yards per team pass attempt. 362 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,720 So that number is fine. It's above average, but it's 363 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:25,240 not, you know, what we see from first round picks usually, 364 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:28,240 usually they're at or above 90, you know, in the first round. 365 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:31,440 So you know, you look at his yards per out run numbers and 366 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,240 etcetera, etcetera. They're not like that stellar, 367 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:37,320 but it's pretty easy to sort of explain all that away by the 368 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:42,200 fact that he didn't, you know, sitting in team wide receiver 369 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,160 rooms and getting, you know, practice that way and getting 370 00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,520 reps at wide receiver. You know, the the other thing 371 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:52,000 too is Colorado threw the ball a lot and they often had like four 372 00:18:52,000 --> 00:18:55,200 or five wide receiver sets. And anytime you have that many 373 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,400 wide receivers in the field at once, you're going to see a 374 00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,680 lowered yards per hour run rate. You know, that's why we had a 375 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,400 lot of people will adjust that in at the NFL level where like, 376 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,560 you know, Drake London rookie season, crazy, crazy yards per 377 00:19:05,560 --> 00:19:06,680 hour run. Of course, he's a really good 378 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,640 wide receiver, but it was probably inflated a little bit 379 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,200 because Arthur Smith's offenses were running so much 12 380 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:13,600 personnel in Atlanta. So that's going to obviously 381 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:14,840 make that number look a little bit better. 382 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:18,080 So I think there's reason, you know, like PFF did some analysis 383 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,200 that showed that that Travis Hunter's expected yards per 384 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:24,000 outrun was one of the lowest of any wide receiver entering the 385 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:27,520 league since 2019 because again, the situation wasn't that great. 386 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:31,080 So I'll just lean into the fact that this dude's a Unicorn and 387 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,440 say that a lot of these numbers can make him an outlier, and 388 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:38,760 I'll go with Travis Hunter here. Danny, if we get word at the 389 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:43,480 beginning of the season that he is not in wide receiver 390 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,320 meetings, does this be? We have to throw out all 391 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:51,440 analysis 'cause this has been our caveat for his, his not, you 392 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,080 know, 100 percentile production profile. 393 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,360 Yeah, I think it's splitting hairs, but I think in the if, 394 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:02,000 that's actually why I have Ted McMillan ranked just ever so 395 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:05,600 slightly ahead of Travis Hunter. Because I think you can expect 396 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:09,880 like a 90 + 95 plus percent route rate for McMillan early on 397 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,320 in his career. And right now we're they're 398 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,400 talking about Hunter playing about 80% of the snaps. 399 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,760 I don't know what his route rate on pass plays is going to end up 400 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:18,920 being. Maybe they just throw them out 401 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:20,920 there when they know they're going to pass or whatever it is 402 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:24,880 and then it ends up kind of evening out and not being that 403 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:26,680 big of a difference. But I just think, you know, you 404 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,840 get McMillan versus Hunter and McMillan running almost every 405 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,160 route, being the number one target on his team versus Hunter 406 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,760 running not every route and being the number 2 target on his 407 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:37,680 team. Maybe that splitting hairs too 408 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,280 much, but that's why I would have McMillan just slightly 409 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,120 ahead. But I, I mean, honestly, like as 410 00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:45,080 I go through drafts, I would just like kind of switch off, 411 00:20:45,120 --> 00:20:47,120 probably take like one of the one of the other guys just to 412 00:20:48,200 --> 00:20:50,640 make sure I get every, make sure I get both guys kind of deal. 413 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,400 But if I had to choose right now between the two, I'd slightly go 414 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,560 McMillan. But you know, I I recognize that 415 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,920 Hunter has a lead upside too. And and he's attached to what we 416 00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:02,960 think is probably a better quarterback and a better 417 00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:04,400 offense. And in just terms of the 418 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,400 trajectory of that offense under Liam Cohen, I think that you can 419 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:11,600 imagine a world where they're like the Buccaneers, you know, 420 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,800 the last couple years where they're passing a ton, really 421 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:17,160 efficient, tons of touchdowns and just lighting it up. 422 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:20,440 And then you're stuck there with McMillan and Bryce Young 423 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:22,800 regresses back to what he was as a rookie, and you're like, wow, 424 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,080 shit, this sucks. The. 425 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:29,840 The Bryce, the Bryce black marble is so bad for Ted because 426 00:21:30,120 --> 00:21:33,400 like, he did seem really fun for like 7 1/2 games. 427 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,680 Yeah, but like also the games before that were so, so bad. 428 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:42,720 I mean, he was legitimately one of the worst rookie or at least 429 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,000 first round rookie quarterbacks we've seen in forever. 430 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,760 Like he was so bad. He was like Jared Goff. 431 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,600 Level's bad. He's like he's like cumulative 432 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:56,120 EPAI think is the same as Will Levis at this stage, and that's 433 00:21:56,120 --> 00:21:57,720 including the good games, right, right. 434 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:00,200 That's that's that's cumulative. So. 435 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:03,880 So that's, you know that. And now like just saying this 436 00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,760 out loud makes me want to like completely delete what I just 437 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:08,360 said about having McMillan. Slightly it's. 438 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,800 It's one of those things where you just, I don't know, like 439 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,680 there's so many variables. What do you, what do you do 440 00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,440 here? But I think they're two very 441 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:16,520 close prospects in terms of rookie drafts. 442 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,960 I had the 102 in one of my leagues and I took Travis 443 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,600 Hunter, but I honestly had some pause with you, Danny, cuz my 444 00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:26,240 other decision was gonna be Ted was who I was gonna go with 445 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,040 there. But it was funny, like I was 446 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,480 thinking through the ways I'd regret the decision, and I 447 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:35,840 decided that if Hunter, that just is incredible, and I took 448 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:39,040 Ted, that I would feel like so much more of an idiot than in 449 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,560 the scenario, like Davis was subscribing. 450 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,680 It's like, oh, Bryce Young, that was just a flash in the pan at 451 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,440 the end of last season. And Ted is just like mired on a 452 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,640 bad offense and just, OK. I'd feel like such a fucking 453 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,240 idiot. I clicked Hunter really quickly. 454 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,400 After that, yeah. I have also taken on the clock 455 00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:57,120 at 1-2 every time. I've just taken Hunter. 456 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,440 Yeah, well, didn't Davis in in the league, the league we were 457 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,520 referencing before he fell to you at 15? 458 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,400 Yeah, 'cause some people are scared. 459 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,680 Oh yeah, some people, some people are big scared. 460 00:23:08,680 --> 00:23:10,000 We got a comp, Someone already said. 461 00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,840 What is this, an IDP draft you took? 462 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,120 You took a core. That's a hold over joke 'cause 463 00:23:16,360 --> 00:23:18,880 even from our previous mock when, when you took him, I put 464 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,960 defensive back next to his designation on here. 465 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,480 So I I kept that in there for the for the wolves. 466 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:30,440 OK, let's see here. I believe JJ, you are still up 467 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:34,800 plenty to speak on here at One O. 4 Actually, literally nothing 468 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,040 to speak on. Yeah, I'm. 469 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,600 Literally you just. This is the worst slot to to 470 00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,600 draw. Am I, am I allowed to speak 471 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:41,920 right here? Is that is that cool? 472 00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:44,000 No, I actually have the worst slots. 473 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:47,240 I have the one O 7, the 19 and the 110 you guys get to have. 474 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,200 All of that, One O 4 is one O 4 is great. 475 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:54,360 I'll take Ted at one O 4 yeah no again like I I'm I'm kind of a 476 00:23:54,360 --> 00:23:56,480 Danny like I think that you can make the argument pretty easily 477 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,960 that that McMillan would would be drafted over hunter. 478 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:03,920 I have Hunter because a hunter above him because as my COO 479 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,560 likes to say, I like to live a little when I'm when I'm 480 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:08,040 drafting these guys. Yeah, yeah. 481 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:13,280 And so with that, you know, I haven't been someone who thought 482 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:16,880 of McMillan as Drake London as much as others have like that 483 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,560 spectrum. It's more to me like Courtland 484 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:21,920 Sutton, maybe T Higgins is a prospect as well. 485 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,720 And you can look at like breakout score as as evidence of 486 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,240 that. You know, Drake London had a 487 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,240 really good age adjusted production profile. 488 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:32,520 Mcmillan's is really good too, but London was just a younger 489 00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:34,760 player, like as he was like entering college and stuff. 490 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:36,400 And so that helped his number a little bit. 491 00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:40,760 So McMillan has like a very, very small, small red flag when 492 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,800 it comes to the breakout score stuff that I look at. 493 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,080 And breakout score itself, like as a metric is almost as 494 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,200 predictive as draft capital itself. 495 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,600 So like, like I'm using breakout score as part of the ZAP model 496 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,440 in total. There's other inputs that go in 497 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,240 including draft capital, but like if you just looked at 498 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:59,360 breakout score, that would be pretty predictive for you, you 499 00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:01,600 know, if you ignore draft capital completely. 500 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,600 So you know, him having a score of 83, again, it's good, it's a 501 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,880 solid breakout score. But usually these first round 502 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,600 wide receivers are over the 90 mark. 503 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,360 And if you look at top ten wide receivers since 2011 who had 504 00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:17,520 breakout scores below 90, it's Tavon Austin, Kevin White, Corey 505 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,480 Davis, John Ross and Mike Williams. 506 00:25:20,360 --> 00:25:24,400 It's, it's like that's the only like that's basically like, like 507 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,840 I don't like to like, I like to like run those filters for 508 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,840 content purposes 'cause I think it's just, it's interesting to 509 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:31,360 kind of look at the. Rage bait. 510 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:34,760 Yeah, basically, essentially, yes. 511 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Yeah, Reddit bait. Yeah, but like it's enough. 512 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:42,280 It's enough though for me to say in a tie breaking situation I'll 513 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,880 just go with Hunter over Macmillan, but I can understand 514 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:45,400 either. Direction. 515 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:48,440 Yeah, that makes sense. All right, Davis, you get 516 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,480 back-to-back picks here at 5:00 and 6:00. 517 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,280 Are these are these layups for you? 518 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,440 One of them is because 5 is just Cam Ward which is like honestly 519 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:01,360 is like actually not fun. It's like sick dude. 520 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,480 He hit his ceiling. He averaged 18.6 fantasy points 521 00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:09,160 per game in year 3. You know, like he doesn't. 522 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,400 You took about one O 3 in our in our pre draft one too. 523 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:14,160 You've gotten stuck with this pick both times. 524 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,360 I love that Davis just Fast forward in his body three years 525 00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:20,040 to just give us that insight. I did. 526 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,200 I let you know. Yeah. 527 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,680 Dude, he had this sick quarterback 11 season. 528 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,200 It was him. It was him and Matt Stafford as 529 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,560 quarterback 11 and 12. You feeling really good about 530 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:30,000 it? Oh, Stafford's still playing? 531 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:31,440 OK, that's good. Yeah, yeah. 532 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,600 We just signed the contract extension, brother. 533 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:41,960 The fact that Shudur and Shuck were not first rounders, not 534 00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,360 even not even second or third rounders in the case of Shudur, 535 00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:49,400 and the fact that Dart landed in a weird situation where he's not 536 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,520 locked in and it seemed that he was the choice of the coach who 537 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:57,120 also might immediately be fired puts him in a weird spot. 538 00:26:57,120 --> 00:27:01,200 And all of those things make Ward a little bit more valuable 539 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,600 in the context of of Superflex because he will have a year 540 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,040 where he can suck. Like Cam. 541 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,560 Ward can just be bad this year and you're at least going to get 542 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:13,040 his points. He can also probably flirt with 543 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:16,600 getting benched next year and still be worth an asset. 544 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:18,200 Like what is Bryce Young worth right now? 545 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:20,760 You have to. You have to trade it first. 546 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,120 Yeah, he's still at first, yeah. So you're you're then talking 547 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:28,640 about we get to 2028 before Cam Ward, while actively being bad 548 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:32,720 is is like in where Anthony Richardson is now, right. 549 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,520 And even still, if you went to the Anthony Richardson drafter 550 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,320 today and you were like I man, I will give you the two O 4. 551 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,480 He's like, I'm probably just going to hold man. 552 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:45,200 He could it could what he could happen. 553 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,560 It can work. So it's look, man, it's not very 554 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,560 fun. Cam Ward is is unless the 555 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,680 Tennessee Titans are really surprising and and Gunner helm 556 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:00,000 really breaks out and Shamira DK is, you know, our generation's 557 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,800 Miles Austin or something. They're they're probably just 558 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:04,400 they're probably just going to be pretty bad. 559 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,880 But there's a group. Chat out there that thinks that 560 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:09,640 all those scenarios are are happening. 561 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,120 There's a there's a group chat out there that is already 562 00:28:13,120 --> 00:28:17,360 planning Gunner Helm's memorial outside of of the stadium. 563 00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:25,240 Danny, do you have any non boring takes on on Cam Ward? 564 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:27,120 Can you get it? Can you get us excited for this 565 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:30,720 pick? I think the way that you get 566 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:36,400 excited about it is that he somehow turns into some version 567 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:41,120 of the Joe Burrow that emerged under Callahan for a couple 568 00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,240 years. I think where they're throwing 569 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,840 it a bunch, they're spreading it out and letting him do 570 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,240 everything at the line kind of deal. 571 00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,640 I, I'm not saying that he really showed that he could do this in 572 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:54,920 college, but basically when you marry him with a, what could be 573 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,720 a really good play caller, you know, in Tennessee, they, they 574 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,160 upgraded some of their weapons. I think he likes to play outer 575 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,240 structure. So he might scramble more than 576 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:07,080 you think in terms of getting a few extra points on the ground. 577 00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:11,680 And I I don't think he ever has, you know, true QB one upside, 578 00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,560 like overall QB one upside. But you know, you Davis, you 579 00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:17,560 were saying like QB he got you QB 11. 580 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,120 You're like, I'd take that at one O 5 honestly. 581 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,160 No, I'm, I'm not saying it's bad, I'm just saying it's not 582 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:24,920 that exciting. Right, right. 583 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:28,760 So I think, you know, he does have he he does have top 12 584 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,560 potential and I think he's a pretty good player. 585 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:35,360 I just don't think he's a normal 1st overall pick that we're used 586 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,640 to in terms of just the hype and, and the pedigree and all 587 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:39,760 that. He was a zero star recruit, 588 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:43,600 started at an Incarnate word. You know, if you really want to, 589 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:45,200 if you really want to get excited about it, This is like 590 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,520 the true American dream here. This guy started, started from 591 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,080 the bottom. Now he's on top, you know, so I 592 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,360 don't know. I I think, but that's the bulk 593 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:58,200 case for him in terms of he plays in an offense that passes 594 00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,040 a ton, high flying, you know, high pass rate, lots of plays 595 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:06,760 and he scrambles around a bunch. Davis, back-to-back picks here. 596 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,520 You said this one wasn't quite as much of A layout for you. 597 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:13,640 No, because I think you could make an argument for either of 598 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,800 the Ohio State guys. Neither lands in like a 599 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:19,040 particularly great spot. I usually think you actually can 600 00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:23,200 make an argument for Loveland as well if you just are like you 601 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:30,840 know, Henderson injury prone Judkins like you know, one 602 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:35,320 really good season 2 one really bad season 1 mediocre season 603 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,760 where he got the ball 160 times like real real Marshawn at Lloyd 604 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120 S season, his final year at Ohio State. 605 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,440 I know there are no consequences here. 606 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,080 I I kind of just want to take Loveland for the bit, but I'll 607 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,360 do I'll do Trayvon Henderson for two reasons. 608 00:30:52,800 --> 00:31:00,600 First being Trivion, Henderson has a little bit of like I would 609 00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,800 call it like the the Gibbs backer. 610 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,040 Yeah, yeah, I was trying to think of a a more intelligent 611 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,640 way to say that. But like he can theoretically, 612 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:12,200 he can theoretically put together usable fantasy season 613 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,480 while Rimandre is still playing 40% of the snaps, which is 614 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:20,040 valuable. He also is attached to a 615 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,760 quarterback we think is probably good in Drake may like trending 616 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,600 up like the I don't know if the if the Patriots were the 11th 617 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:31,360 best offense in EPA this year, it's like probably not likely. 618 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,520 It's possible. And then he's then he's a guy 619 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,960 you really want. If the Patriots are better and 620 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,520 this rework and the offensive line works, you'll you'll really 621 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,640 have wanted him. Whereas you, you look at 622 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,880 Cleveland and you're like, well, what is the plan here? 623 00:31:45,120 --> 00:31:48,680 You know, so I got an I have an early down grinder on a team who 624 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,760 scored 8 rushing touchdowns last season and has five quarterbacks 625 00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:58,640 on the roster stick, you know? Yeah, JJ, what do you what, what 626 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,600 did the ZAP model have as a player comp for for Hendo? 627 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,280 It was David Wilson. James Cook and JK Dobbins were 628 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,520 the three. I mean, look, David Wilson was 629 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,280 sweet. David Wilson was really fun. 630 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,640 Yeah, before. Injuries right that. 631 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,080 Yeah, yeah, Neck injury got him out of the league. 632 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,960 I think that like the James Cook comp though, is really tight 633 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,160 just in terms of what the numbers are looking at. 634 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:24,400 And if you think about like what his usage could look like in New 635 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,440 England and at the NFL level, I kind of see it as like James 636 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:30,000 Cook. Like think I'd like more of a 637 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,320 ceiling, obviously, but think about like what James Cook did 638 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:33,600 last year. Forget the touchdowns because 639 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:34,760 they were a little bit unsustainable. 640 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,400 But you're going to see like that fifty to 60%, you know, 641 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,080 running back rush air kind of range. 642 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,240 And then but but I think there's a lot more juice as a receiver 643 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:45,280 for Trayvon Henderson then then how Buffalo has been deploying, 644 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,640 you know, James Cook Henderson and like the best pass protector 645 00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,920 that we've seen come out from as a running back like ever. 646 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:55,720 Arguably. He's got a ton of juice, really 647 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,480 good speed score. And then also, you know, he's 648 00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,160 landing on his spot. I feel like people haven't 649 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,880 talked about like the Josh McDaniels factor that much where 650 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,640 like they they his his offenses have historically been at least 651 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,120 above average to elite at at using running backs out of the 652 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,600 backfield as receivers. Now that kind of those kind of 653 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,560 numbers are going to be personnel driven and even 654 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:15,960 quarterback driven to some degree. 655 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:19,040 But I that can't hurt like it can't be a bad thing thing that 656 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:21,880 McDaniels is there and there's not a lot of like obvious 657 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,000 competition at receiver. And when you're kind of 658 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:27,360 projecting things out, that means that those those that 659 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,480 target share can then go to the running back position. 660 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,760 I mean, we saw that with Romandre Stevenson where it's 661 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:35,040 like Stevenson had pass catching ability coming out for like a 662 00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:37,880 bigger dude, but it was almost he was just like the default for 663 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,400 them. I mean, he he'd catch like like 664 00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:42,320 when they were trailing, he'd have like 5 catches on a final 665 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,280 drive and all of a sudden he was PPR viable. 666 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,000 Now imagine it being like an actual good receiver at running 667 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,600 back playing for them. So I, I really like Trayvon 668 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,160 Henderson. I think, I mean, he's the kind 669 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,960 of running back that I generally fall in love with in fantasy. 670 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,760 You know, the pass catcher can take you to the house on any 671 00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:58,120 play. But I mean, I think the 672 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:00,080 situation's actually not that bad overall. 673 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:05,720 Do you guys remember the rumor when Josh McDaniels traded 674 00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,440 Peyton Hillis out of Denver for just like a seventh round pick 675 00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,400 and the rumor was he thought his wife found Peyton Hillis 676 00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:13,080 attractive? Do. 677 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,960 You remember that? No, I totally I I missed that 678 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,120 little. This was a legit rumor and I 679 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:24,560 also just made me realized why the Patriots couldn't draft Cam 680 00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:27,840 Scatabo because he was worried about the same thing happening 681 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:28,520 all over. Again. 682 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,960 Oh my. God, Peyton Hillis, I hate this 683 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,679 this draft slot at one O 7 so much. 684 00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:37,000 I was really hoping Davis would get cute and then I could just 685 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:39,600 take Trevion. I mean Davis already said it 686 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,840 about Judkins like that. Just feel like I know it's like 687 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,760 probably the the right pick. You look at the draft capital 688 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:48,840 all that, but you just like in your minds, I how do you 689 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:52,920 envision like a true smash for Judkins in that environment? 690 00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:55,719 They're going to still give like Jerome Ford a little work. 691 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,960 Dylan Sampson is pretty intriguing. 692 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,080 Like not only could this be like a committee, but if he's not 693 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,600 catching passes and there's not red zone trips, like I still see 694 00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:07,320 like the long term vision with it, how it could work out that 695 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:09,440 organization, you know, finally turns it around. 696 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,720 But I'm just sitting there thinking after year one, I'm 697 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:15,560 just like holding this asset that didn't gain any value and 698 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,840 probably lost a little bit of value. 699 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,960 So I'm going fucking rogue here. I'm taking the guy that didn't 700 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:25,040 even get drafted in our first pre NFL draft mock draft. 701 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,400 I'm taking RJ Harvey, another guy who got round two capital 702 00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:34,840 who's going into like a 180 opposite situation than 703 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:38,280 Quinshawn Judkins. That offense is going to hum 0 704 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,560 competition. I mean, I think he's going to 705 00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:43,640 have an awesome year 1 and I think it's just an asset. 706 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,960 Like if you are worried about the long term ramifications of 707 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,960 RJ Harvey, you are going to have a really nice window to get out 708 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,280 at basically any point halfway through the season to a 709 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,000 contender at the end of the season once he's put up, you 710 00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,200 know, RB2 stats at worse or whatever. 711 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,200 So I don't know, I just can't do the Judkins thing here. 712 00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:05,880 I'll let Danny take the the smart picks. 24 year old running 713 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,560 back at pick 7 dude. Cancel. 714 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,480 Cancel culture really is over. Every running back has like a 2 715 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,320 1/2 year window anyway. No, I know I'm making fun. 716 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:19,000 I'm making fun of the people who are the the they're the middle 717 00:36:19,000 --> 00:36:20,720 curve or the Jedi bell curve meme. 718 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,840 The one no you. Can't. 719 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,560 The one thing I do with the age thing, though, with Harvey that 720 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,800 I feel like gets missed even with like when we talk about 721 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,240 like Matthew Golden and his like lack of production, you know, at 722 00:36:31,240 --> 00:36:34,960 Texas is age also matters not just from the standpoint of like 723 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,680 you want younger players because they stick stick around longer. 724 00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,840 It's also the from if you're analyzing this from like a 725 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,920 production standpoint, when a player plays in college longer, 726 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,360 he should have better production. 727 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:48,720 So if you're then letting age then factor in, then you're 728 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:50,320 adjusting that production to some degree. 729 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:54,000 Like RJ Harvey, for instance, his his first four years of 730 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,800 college football, he didn't, he didn't hit a 9% reception share 731 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,320 in any season that he played. And then he didn't get over that 732 00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,760 10% mark and he got over 11% until his final collegiate 733 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,440 season, which most running backs don't have the opportunity to do 734 00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,760 so because they're not playing college football for five 735 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,760 seasons. So I do think from like that, 736 00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,200 from the experience perspective and depending on how you're sort 737 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,960 of like looking at prospects, I do think it does still matter 738 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:19,280 the age thing, people are going to overblow it because they're 739 00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,000 like, oh, we haven't seen a 24 year old running back get 740 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:24,560 drafted on day 2 before. This is going to be a but like 741 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,320 it's just, yeah, you don't have to go that far. 742 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:27,440 But I do think that. Like I think. 743 00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,760 Having context is important. The thing that should bum you 744 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,800 out is that if you asked Sean Payton, who is starting running 745 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:38,240 back is right now, he would like start to give you a historical 746 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:40,560 allegory for like the Crimean War. 747 00:37:40,600 --> 00:37:43,760 You would mention Michael Burton, Marvin Mims. 748 00:37:43,760 --> 00:37:46,640 His name would come up like he would not just look you in the 749 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,000 eye and answer RJ Harvey. Yeah, I mean, my thing though is 750 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:55,280 that like everyone keeps comping this backfield to like historic 751 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,680 Sean Payton backfields and they're like RJ Harvey's the 752 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:02,880 Darren Sprouls or or RJ if you want to comp him to one of them, 753 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,400 it's probably Pierre Thomas If if of of all the. 754 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,600 Guys, I totally agree with that. You know, but like I just I 755 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,360 think that you got to just like reset. 756 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,400 It's a it's a new situation. You know, it's not like it's not 757 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,440 like Sean Payton like historically had an Oddrick 758 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,600 estimate type back either. He usually had more dual threat 759 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,080 guys that were, you know, capable pass catchers too. 760 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:22,960 And he's not Alvin Kamara either. 761 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:26,760 I mean, Kamara is a ridiculous receiver as a prospect, like one 762 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:28,800 of the best receiving profiles, at least in my model. 763 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,160 So like, I'm not I'm not there with RJ Harvey either, But he's 764 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:33,880 yeah. I mean, I think I think that 765 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,920 he's the like right now rankings wise and like projections wise, 766 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,640 I think he's the RB2AS rookie as a rookie, right? 767 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,560 Like I think he projects better than Amari and Hampton this 768 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,760 year. JJ, from what I'm hearing, can I 769 00:38:44,760 --> 00:38:47,080 ask a favor? Were you not right about this 770 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,280 pick I made in the mock draft in the newsletter? 771 00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,960 Because I can't handle the heat on Reddit if they know I'm 772 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:58,560 taking RJ Harvey, You got it. You got it All right, Danny, 773 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,560 you're on the clock. Who would you have taken at 7, 774 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:04,840 which I'm guessing is going to be your pick here if it wasn't 775 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,640 Harvey? So this is time in premium, 776 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:09,320 right? People forget. 777 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:12,320 Yes, it is. And Davis said something like, 778 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:17,240 there's a bit with the Colston Loveland thing, but so living, 779 00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,440 I'll try not to live in fear of what you're going to make fun of 780 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,360 me for this, but. There's there's always a bit in 781 00:39:21,360 --> 00:39:24,320 the banana sands. The bit Danny, Danny the bit. 782 00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,720 The bit is just that everyone in in this corner of the Internet 783 00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:29,640 hates running backs. Just hates them. 784 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,200 OK, gotcha. That's all I think. 785 00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,840 So this is tough. The way that I look at this is 786 00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,360 there's enough question marks. If Harvey would have been there, 787 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:41,400 I I would have had enough question marks where I'm like, 788 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:46,000 not really sure if I'm going to go him over a top 10 pick at at 789 00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,600 tight end in tight end premium, attached to a really good play 790 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,880 caller and attached to a potentially good quarterback in 791 00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:54,000 in Caleb Williams. So I probably would have gone 792 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,520 Colson Loveland right there, even though I had Tyler Warren 793 00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:01,200 ranked slightly higher in my at like actual football rankings 794 00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:03,800 coming into the season. Are coming into the draft, but I 795 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,000 think Loveland's landing spot with a play caller in Ben 796 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:11,920 Johnson, who you know has shown the ability to make the Titan 797 00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:16,520 like position really relevant for you know early on in Samuel 798 00:40:16,520 --> 00:40:18,080 Porter's career. Obviously last year was a little 799 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,640 bit different. He fell off, but I think the 800 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:25,440 focus on Caleb Williams is here is going to be in quick game, 801 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,760 easy button, get the ball out, stop trying to freaking run 802 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,800 around there for five seconds before every throw. 803 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,080 Like scheming up ways to get the ball out quickly and and have 804 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:35,520 him play in rhythm and gain confidence. 805 00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,760 And I think Colson Loveland could be a big part of that. 806 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,360 His ability to sort of run routes, get open early. 807 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,000 He has a big frame, big catch radius, could be, you know, that 808 00:40:44,120 --> 00:40:46,880 proverbial quarterback's best friend type of player. 809 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,280 So I'm pretty bullish on Colston Levelin you don't you don't see 810 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,640 a ton of top ten tight ends in the NFLS these day in the NFL 811 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,000 these days and that obviously. Kyle Pitts and Eric Ebron. 812 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:01,000 When you do, they don't turn out great usually, but I think you 813 00:41:01,000 --> 00:41:05,000 kind of just I'm just going with sort of like drive capital head 814 00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:10,120 coach quarterback trifecta here. I think with Harvey, just to 815 00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:11,480 join in on the Harvey discussion. 816 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:14,400 I've kind of like become very disillusioned with Sean Payton 817 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:17,480 and just don't want to have. I don't want to like be beholden 818 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:21,160 to the whims of of a megalomaniac like Sean Payton. 819 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:24,600 Like he just like they traded up for Marvin Mims and he's like 820 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,760 their punt returner or whatever. You know, it's like, I don't 821 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,560 like, I just don't trust him. It's like 6 weeks down the line. 822 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:33,480 How much are you gonna be surprised if like Tyler Beatty 823 00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,360 is leading the team in rushing? You know what I mean? 824 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,160 Like I'm just like. We've we've been invoking, we've 825 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,680 been invoking that name around. Here I'm just like I do people. 826 00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,840 Forgot but I didn't. Dan, I think Peyton just 827 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,040 honestly wants to troll us. Like he just hates us. 828 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:50,840 He's he's the borderline Arthur Smithing late in his career. 829 00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,720 You know what I mean? I just don't know if I want to. 830 00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:55,440 That being said, I have taken RJ Harvey a few places because, you 831 00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,120 know, the history is undeniable with with Peyton and and his 832 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,080 running backs and how they are involved in the passing game. 833 00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:04,280 The other thing I would say is like Bo Nicks is sort of the 834 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,280 perfect quarterback for running back production because I, I saw 835 00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,280 this Broncos fans get pissed at me all the time because I'm 836 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,240 always kind of like making fun of Bo Nicks. 837 00:42:13,240 --> 00:42:18,880 But Bo Nicks, according to FTN will lead the NFL in failed 838 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,480 completions, which is like my favorite term failed completions 839 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,960 failed. It's essentially success rate on 840 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,280 completions. So like dump offs and swing 841 00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:30,560 passes and things of that nature. 842 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,240 He led the NFL in those last year. 843 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:35,440 I think he got better as the year went on and was pushing the 844 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:37,480 ball down field. And I think the success rate in 845 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:38,720 the passing game went up certainly. 846 00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:42,240 But you know, he he's going back to Oregon, going back even 847 00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:44,720 further, you know, get the ball out, get the ball at the running 848 00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:46,120 backs. Let that let his playmakers do 849 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,040 the job. Sean Payton's been. 850 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,760 Which is so funny because the reason Peyton wanted to draft 851 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,360 him was he's like the greatest screen thrower of all time. 852 00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:58,640 Right. So anyways, I think RJ Harvey 853 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:00,440 has a ton of potential. I just don't know if I really 854 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:01,840 want to buy into the Sean Payton. 855 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,120 Like I just don't want to be reliant on Sean Payton on 856 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:05,600 Sundays. It just makes me insane. 857 00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:11,680 I will say this, I get all that. I think the cake for RJ Harvey 858 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,480 is almost like Sean Payton, agnostic. 859 00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,320 It's just like you look at the draft capital, that overall 860 00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:19,160 offensive environment and you look at the competition. 861 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,160 There is no competition really. I mean, even like the to to go 862 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:24,560 to Judkins, who I I can't believe I'm like slamming him 863 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:26,480 and now I'm going to be forced to take him with one of these 864 00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:30,200 next two picks that I have. But I mean, like Dylan Sampson 865 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:33,760 is good, you know, like Jerome Ford would immediately have been 866 00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:37,400 the best running back on the Broncos if they just swapped 867 00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,400 out, you know, Jerome Ford for RJ Harvey. 868 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,800 So I'm just almost just saying like, let's just keep this 869 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:43,240 simple. Like it was an explosive 870 00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:44,920 offense. They were scoring 30 plus 871 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:49,880 reliably there down the stretch. Like almost like he might have a 872 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,400 shenanigans but he'll be just forced to play RJ Harvey is 873 00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:56,760 basically kind of my take. And I actually, I actually, you 874 00:43:57,000 --> 00:44:00,320 know, really like RJ Harvey. I think he's a really fun back 875 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,240 and like, super explosive, like makes guys missing a phone 876 00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:05,600 booth, all that stuff. So I think it's kind of like 877 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,880 you're, you know, splitting hairs talking about these picks, 878 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,120 of course. But yeah, I am excited to see 879 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:13,080 him play. I like him a lot. 880 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:17,720 But in this case, the Loveland pick, I don't, you know, I don't 881 00:44:17,720 --> 00:44:20,560 have a ton of confidence just because there's a lot of guys in 882 00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,120 in that offense right now for the Bears. 883 00:44:23,280 --> 00:44:26,040 But I think, you know, like I said, sort of draft capital, 884 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,320 coach, quarterback, that combination feels good. 885 00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,320 And I think DJ Moore, his days might be numbered in Chicago. 886 00:44:31,320 --> 00:44:33,360 Like if you're reading between the leaves or whatever, or 887 00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:35,520 you're reading between the lines, reading the tea leaves. 888 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,480 I'm wondering if DJ Moore might be moved at some point soon 889 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,120 here. J Sirt, says the guy who just 890 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:47,000 traded for Roma Dunze. JJ, I'd like to propose you one 891 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,840 of the first ever real time mock Drake. 892 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:53,920 OK, let's hear it. Let's. 893 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:54,560 Hear it? I'm looking. 894 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:55,440 I'm looking. To. 895 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:03,120 Trade out, Josh out. I want to trade you my 19 and 896 00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:09,080 I'll even toss in my first pick in the second round there at 19. 897 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,920 I'll take it for your two, one and 2/3. 898 00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:17,280 Probably not. No. 899 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,400 Fuck, I, I I want to see you. I want to see you. 900 00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,120 You squirm while drafting quench on Judkins. 901 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:27,440 It's so strange that like I thought I was a little bit lower 902 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,320 on Judkins. I know I, I drafted him in the 903 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,880 in the one lead that were in nanny, but like I had, I had 904 00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:35,080 concerns with Judkins and his receiving profile and stuff and 905 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,200 I, I didn't think that I'd find so many Judkins haters in one 906 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,240 stream right there. That's it. 907 00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:43,280 I'm going to the GroupMe and I'm auctioning this pick off. 908 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:44,680 Wow. Not. 909 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:48,520 The GroupMe bro. Fine, I'll take Quinch on 910 00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,280 Dudkins. I'm not happy about it, but it's 911 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,400 probably the right thing to do here at one night. 912 00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,680 Can any of you get me excited about Quinch? 913 00:45:55,720 --> 00:46:03,520 Yeah, easily. So the to me, Judkins from like 914 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:07,240 a usage projection standpoint, I think that that the ideal 915 00:46:07,240 --> 00:46:09,720 situation is that he's sort of like more Jonathan Taylor, Nick 916 00:46:09,720 --> 00:46:12,160 Chubb, where you're getting like a 9% target share from him and 917 00:46:12,160 --> 00:46:15,080 not, you know, a 13 or 14% target share. 918 00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:17,480 But you know, you mentioned like the Dylan Sampson pick. 919 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:19,840 I actually think that it would have been he would have been 920 00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,840 worse off if they drafted someone like Jaden Blue on day 921 00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,560 three instead of Dylan Sampson because Sampson to me is like 922 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,400 the quintessential early down change of pace back and not 923 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,480 because he he didn't have like a crazy good pass catching profile 924 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,320 and receiving profile. And so like the question marks 925 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,120 that we have with Judkins are far less about what that early 926 00:46:39,120 --> 00:46:41,280 down profile looks like and how many how many touches he's going 927 00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:43,960 to get on the ground. And so to me it's like, yes, 928 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,280 year one with Jerome Ford there, that's typically how they've 929 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,680 deployed Jerome Ford. So maybe we see a little bit of 930 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,640 a a decrease, you know, receiving or see decreased 931 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,680 receiving numbers from Judkins. But I think year 2 and beyond on 932 00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:59,080 this rookie deal, we could easily see Judkins be, you know, 933 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,360 more of that 10%, maybe even 11% type target share player. 934 00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,840 Because I don't think Dylan Sampson is is that good of a 935 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:08,360 pass catcher like Sampson, oddly, given his size and his 936 00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:11,520 like, like he's an explosive running back like that, that 937 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:16,320 kind of that kind of size speed combo is typically used as more 938 00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:19,840 of that change of pace at the NFL level, which is why I 939 00:47:19,840 --> 00:47:21,240 didn't. I wasn't really buying the 940 00:47:21,240 --> 00:47:24,480 Sampson like day 2 hype that like mock drafts for giving him 941 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,560 and stuff like that, because he didn't have the receiving 942 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,480 profile to to his profile whatsoever. 943 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:32,000 Whereas at least Judkins has the the like, he will be the 1A at 944 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,160 the very least, you know, on the ground where he's going to see 945 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:39,520 that like 250 plus attempt upside in that backfield. 946 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,840 But then who's he competing with as a receiver? 947 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,280 You know, after this year, I feel kind of good that it would 948 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,240 be Dylan Sampson. So that's the bowl case, I think 949 00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:49,840 for Judkins. And, you know, like he got 950 00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:52,280 really good draft capital. This is a part in the draft. 951 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:54,920 The early second round historically has been just as 952 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,520 good as like mid to late 1st rounders for running backs. 953 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,440 So I'm not like I I think just draft capital alone. 954 00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:03,920 You have to be semi interested. I do have concerns again 955 00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:07,680 receiving profiles not great, but you know I I still have him 956 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,760 over like RJ Harvey at this. Point Well JJ, that's all good 957 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,160 and well, but if you believed any of that bullshit, you would 958 00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:16,920 have accepted my trade and taken your guy at 1:00. 959 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,080 Night, my guy. Now he's my guy. 960 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,320 Oh God, I have to pick again. Again, do. 961 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:27,800 The right thing so I can make a funny pick. 962 00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:32,040 I mean, I'll do, I'll do the right, I'll take kind of the 963 00:48:32,040 --> 00:48:34,800 chalk pick. I think in this range, I'm going 964 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:37,440 to take a Mecca Buka. Let's get let's get another wide 965 00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:42,480 receiver on the board, first round draft capital. 966 00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:45,400 I think there's like multiple ways this works out as far as 967 00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,720 like as an asset, as far as like he could just hit early. 968 00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,680 You're 1. Like he could have like, you 969 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:53,200 know, the Jalen McMillan like back half where he's Catching 970 00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:57,960 Fire in a rotational roll. Or it could just be this thing 971 00:48:57,960 --> 00:48:59,600 where the market is kind of confident. 972 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,200 He flashes a bit and then it's like, hey, Chris Godwin, Mike 973 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,480 Evans aging out of this offense, still tied to Baker Mayfield. 974 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:10,240 I think there's going to be lots of windows for selling IGBUCA if 975 00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:12,800 you want to get out of it. I think he's just probably one 976 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,240 of the higher floor wide receiver prospects in this class 977 00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:16,120 too. You know what you're going to 978 00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:20,320 get from him. This is PPR this league. 979 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:24,080 I forgot to tell you guys that. So he should catch a few balls. 980 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,080 Anyone like to speak on a Mecca Igbuka? 981 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,720 He's the he's the eat your veggies first round pick. 982 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,280 Yeah. Yeah, that's all I got. 983 00:49:35,360 --> 00:49:36,440 Not super. It's not like the. 984 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,320 Judkins things right where you're just like there's the 985 00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,360 draft capital. I guess the situation's is a 986 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:42,360 little bit better. But what? 987 00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:43,600 What do you like about him, Danny? 988 00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:47,800 I think he's just, you know, to echo, he's a high floor guy. 989 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,440 Like he is a good route runner, really strong hands, great 990 00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:51,960 blocker. Like coaches are going to love 991 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,440 him. He's going to get on the field 992 00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:56,800 reliable, all the all the cliche catch words or whatever, but 993 00:49:56,800 --> 00:50:00,000 he's just going to he's going to get out there early in his 994 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:01,640 career. I think there's a chance just 995 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,760 with the competition in terms of Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, 996 00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:10,160 assuming he gets healthy, that Igboka takes a little bit longer 997 00:50:10,240 --> 00:50:13,480 than a lot of the picks in the first round that we're seeing to 998 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:15,720 sort of turn into a big time fantasy star. 999 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,840 But if you wait, he has a chance to like be one of the most 1000 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:22,640 productive of the class in terms of just being on a good offense 1001 00:50:22,640 --> 00:50:25,440 with, you know, I think Baker Mayfield, they threw the ball a 1002 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,800 ton. They were very efficient last 1003 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,720 year. There's a lot of variables, I 1004 00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,080 guess with, you know, new play caller and everything there. 1005 00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:36,640 But you know, I just think he has a really high floor and it's 1006 00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,440 kind of one of those situations where you have to be a little 1007 00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:39,640 bit. I think you probably have to be 1008 00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,360 a little more patient with him than some of the guys that are 1009 00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:46,120 going in this range, but I think overall, long term he could be 1010 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,440 one of the better receivers in this class. 1011 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:50,040 I really liked him. I just think he's not, he's not 1012 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:51,640 explosive. He doesn't like break a ton of 1013 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,400 tackles so people aren't as excited about it. 1014 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:57,480 Yeah, the the weird thing too with Tampa Bay is that like I 1015 00:50:57,480 --> 00:51:00,080 don't, I think we all probably have like maybe it's like false 1016 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,600 confidence, but we we feel good about whatever they do 1017 00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:04,400 offensively and whoever is going to be calling plays because 1018 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,560 they've had back-to-back like two different coordinators. 1019 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,160 They were both good. They both got head coaching 1020 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,880 gigs. Like we so like we just 1021 00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,000 generally are going to feel good. 1022 00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:14,440 The weird thing about IGBUCA, if you want to spin this that he 1023 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,240 found actually a good landing spot. 1024 00:51:16,240 --> 00:51:18,000 If you want to like look at it from from this other 1025 00:51:18,000 --> 00:51:21,560 perspective, it's that other landing spots may have sort of 1026 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,760 type casted IGBUCA as a slot guy only. 1027 00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,800 And Tampa Bay showed us last year that they don't do that. 1028 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,600 They drafted Jalen McMillan, played him on the perimeter all 1029 00:51:31,600 --> 00:51:33,800 season long, even when Godwin got hurt. 1030 00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:36,040 They're throwing Sterling Shepherd in the slot instead of 1031 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,680 McMillan. And so then they get another 1032 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:41,480 slot in Ibuka. And I think this is actually an 1033 00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,880 opportunity that like, I think he can play inside out. 1034 00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:45,680 Like he had pretty good numbers on the perimeter. 1035 00:51:46,200 --> 00:51:48,640 You know, I don't think he's only a slot and this is going to 1036 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:50,800 give him an opportunity potentially to play more in the 1037 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,960 perimeter because, you know, think about next year, Chris 1038 00:51:52,960 --> 00:51:55,080 Godwin's a year older. He's still on his deal. 1039 00:51:55,080 --> 00:51:57,360 So he'll still be in Tampa Bay. He's probably going to still 1040 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:00,120 playing the slot for Tampa Bay. If they move on from Mike Evans, 1041 00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,880 then all of a sudden Ibuka is gonna be their primary boundary 1042 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,640 target. And I that that's like there 1043 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:08,320 aren't many scenarios where a team would be that open and 1044 00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,080 willing to do that with Ibuka, which is why I like, I think 1045 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:13,120 he's a good enough prospect to be able to do that too. 1046 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:15,960 Yeah. And it's it's kind of like the 1047 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:19,680 he's like a better prospect, better draft capital. 1048 00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:23,440 I would say like equally good situation, but kind of you, you 1049 00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:25,960 needed a little imagination with the Ricky Pearsall stuff last 1050 00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,200 year where it's like, man, this is there's so many mouths to 1051 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,720 feed, like how's it gonna work? And it's like, well, one, they 1052 00:52:30,720 --> 00:52:33,160 can either be really good and undeniable and they just have to 1053 00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:35,960 be on the field or two, chaos happens and shit happens and 1054 00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,600 people get hurt. And so I think there's lots of 1055 00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,200 outs for him in that regard. Davis, you said you wanted to do 1056 00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,400 a bit with pick 11. What do you got for us? 1057 00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:48,640 Oh yeah, I would like to select, but Luther Burden the second. 1058 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,840 There we go, the university. Of Missouri, Chicago Bear. 1059 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:55,320 Well it's just a bit because everyone knows the guy with like 1060 00:52:55,320 --> 00:53:00,600 the largest screaming red flags who like might be giga buried by 1061 00:53:01,720 --> 00:53:04,240 two wide receivers, maybe 3 pass catchers who are better than 1062 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:06,360 him. Very flammable. 1063 00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,760 Guys. If, if Chicago was terrible this 1064 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,960 year, no one's actually going to be that surprised if everyone's 1065 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:14,240 like, actually Caleb, Caleb is terrible. 1066 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,760 It's just not. It's just not going to Caleb 1067 00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:21,200 Williams had the worst. This is a Scott Barrett stat, 1068 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:25,760 and I'm going to mess it up. It was like total sacks plus 1069 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,760 throwaways or something. And it was like he put it on a 1070 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:32,120 graph and he was so far up to the right that it was like he 1071 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:36,160 invented a new category of how bad it was. 1072 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:40,280 I don't care about any of that, though, because Luther Burden is 1073 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:45,480 an absolute dog. And his raw numbers were pretty 1074 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:50,480 bad as a as a junior. Theo wheeze more yards than him. 1075 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:53,800 But if you do the dominator rating stuff it, it's not as 1076 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,240 bad. And he was so good as a 1077 00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:59,120 sophomore. And I think the NFL actually 1078 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:03,400 told us, by the way, that it it doesn't they don't care being a 1079 00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:05,800 being a second round pick with his prospect profile is actually 1080 00:54:05,800 --> 00:54:08,600 kind of crazy. Like it it if he had a Chadur 1081 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:13,000 Sanders esque fall to be 1/5 rounder, like we would have been 1082 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:16,120 surprised, but it wouldn't have been like no one would have been 1083 00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:17,640 like, well, I don't understand that at all. 1084 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:19,320 We all would have been like, yeah, I don't know, I guess Guy 1085 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:23,080 seems like a Dick. 5th is pretty far, 5th would be surprising. 1086 00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:26,840 That's like Stephon Diggs. Yeah, yeah. 1087 00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,600 Well, I mean Diggs broke his freaking leg at Maryland dude. 1088 00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:34,520 Like just crazy. But if if, if Luther Burden had 1089 00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,520 gone after IO Manor. Would. 1090 00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:39,840 Yeah, I don't think you. You would have been like, I get 1091 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:42,240 it. I I think this guy might have 1092 00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:45,360 had a little. I mean, yeah, I gotta, I gotta, 1093 00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,360 I gotta pump these brakes a little bit. 1094 00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:51,480 Yeah. I mean, look, burden, burden 1095 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,360 First off that Speaking of just like rage bait, that's that's 1096 00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:56,480 what that was. There we go. 1097 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,400 The thing is burden. Burden was never my wide 1098 00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,040 receiver won it was just the the ZAP model liked him a lot pre 1099 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,600 drafted. That went back in the algo for 1100 00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:15,680 you this afternoon, JJ. Thanks for just lighting the 1101 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:18,920 mentions on 48 Hours. I really, really appreciate it. 1102 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,720 I didn't even have to. I didn't even have to tweet 1103 00:55:20,720 --> 00:55:25,920 about Aaron Rodgers this time. No so so the ZAP model really 1104 00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:29,520 likes Luther Burden too much because it it's not looking at 1105 00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,520 like how his deployment and how he got the production that he 1106 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,920 got, but from the standpoint of like people getting worked up 1107 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,240 and worried about like his his his junior season. 1108 00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,960 The way I kind of describe it is peaks are more important than 1109 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:43,480 valleys when it comes to yeah affecting right. 1110 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:45,360 So like. How I describe my relationship 1111 00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:51,400 with Davis Maddock. Focus on the peak, but with with 1112 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:54,640 with burden, he had the best breakout score in this class. 1113 00:55:54,800 --> 00:55:58,080 His sophomore season was the best singular analytical season 1114 00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,640 of any wide receiver in this class. 1115 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,600 And I will argue that all day long, just given, given his 1116 00:56:03,600 --> 00:56:05,640 opponents and who he faced and the and the kind of production 1117 00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:09,280 he was posting. And yeah, I mean, like going to 1118 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,600 Chicago is, is pretty intriguing. 1119 00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,400 Like at the end of the day, like, like, what if this is, you 1120 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,840 know, I don't think that he's like a a copy paste of Amanara 1121 00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:18,480 St. Brown. 1122 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,760 But like, what if this is the vision that Ben Johnson has? 1123 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,200 You know, I've, I, I talked to Jeff Bell, who's going to be on 1124 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:25,560 late round perspectives tomorrow. 1125 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:27,480 And he had that. He made the point that he thinks 1126 00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,360 that Chicago kind of panicked when they were making this pick 1127 00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,400 because the running backs fell off the board right before them 1128 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,480 and they had a plan. And if you look at what Chicago 1129 00:56:34,480 --> 00:56:42,040 did all draft, if if you look at what Chicago did during the 1130 00:56:42,040 --> 00:56:44,280 draft, like they didn't get a running back until Kyle Minung 1131 00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,320 guy in round 7. And like there were all these 1132 00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,360 pockets, like in the fourth round, the second round were 1133 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,200 these running back, there was a running back run and they were 1134 00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:53,080 just screwed. Like we don't know if that was 1135 00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:56,200 really their plan or not to just wait until round 7 to get a 1136 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,120 back. And So what Jeff was saying is 1137 00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,280 basically like they kind of panicked. 1138 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,080 They only had five minutes on the clock, obviously to make the 1139 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:01,840 pick. And they're like, yeah, we'll 1140 00:57:01,840 --> 00:57:04,200 just get Top Gun or board. We'll just get Luther burden. 1141 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:09,680 But I think just like, like, I, I, I trust Ben Johnson to get 1142 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:13,640 him open and if you get Luther Burden open, he's probably the 1143 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:15,680 best player of the ball in his hands in this draft class. 1144 00:57:15,680 --> 00:57:17,080 And that's really, really intriguing. 1145 00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:18,960 So that's why I think that that we should be into him. 1146 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:21,720 Yeah, I I got to get more burden. 1147 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:24,320 I have 0 burden so far and I'm pretty sad about it. 1148 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,320 So if you're in my league, you can take advantage of me. 1149 00:57:28,040 --> 00:57:30,400 And he'll, he'll fall just 'cause you have that kind of 1150 00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,480 mishmash of a tear. You have some guys grabbing a 1151 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,080 quarterback here, some guys grabbing a tight end. 1152 00:57:35,160 --> 00:57:38,040 You know, you get the running back guys like I, I got Burden 1153 00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,560 at at 22 and that wasn't even a tight end premium league. 1154 00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:45,080 So yeah, there's, there's some nice prices on him. 1155 00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:49,800 Danny, you got the last pick of the first round here where 1156 00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:54,760 you're going at 1:12. So I guess Jackson Dart is set 1157 00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:56,440 to come off the board sometime soon here. 1158 00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:01,560 I'm not going to do that though. I'm a little bit worried about 1159 00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,000 somebody mentioned it earlier. I think like the situation is a 1160 00:58:05,000 --> 00:58:07,400 bit weird where they have Russell Wilson and Jameis and 1161 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,400 Winston likely, I guess ostensibly starting this year. 1162 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:14,240 And and a coach who is like clearly coaching for his job. 1163 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:15,920 Right. And AGM that's coaching for his 1164 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:17,240 job. So there could be, you know, a 1165 00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:20,080 situation where after one year the GM and the coach are gone. 1166 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,120 If if, if everything goes horribly for the Giants, which 1167 00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:27,280 it could, then you come in and and you have like a new coaching 1168 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:28,480 staff. Maybe they don't love Jack 1169 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:29,880 Sidart. I feel like he's one of, of all 1170 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,360 the quarterbacks in this class, He was the guy who probably 1171 00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:38,960 needs the most like development time in terms of just adapting 1172 00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,720 to an NFL offense and dropping back and having to read the read 1173 00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:43,520 the field and read the defense and all that stuff. 1174 00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,000 I think he does have a lot of potential ultimately, but I'm 1175 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:48,280 just kind of worried about the situation. 1176 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,080 I'm trying to avoid that. So I'm going to go back to the 1177 00:58:51,080 --> 00:58:52,680 tight end position here. Tyler Warren. 1178 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,880 Bully tight end strategy from David. 1179 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:01,760 Draft I'm a little, I guess like I this is probably why I have 1180 00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:05,560 just in inordinate amounts of Tyler Warren and Colson Loveland 1181 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,840 and drafts this year because everybody else is maybe I think 1182 00:59:07,840 --> 00:59:11,120 a little bit more worried about the situation for for Warren. 1183 00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:16,000 But I've comped I was comping him to like a Dallas Goddard 1184 00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,280 type of player before the draft. I know some people see that as 1185 00:59:18,280 --> 00:59:22,000 kind of like an ick, but just the way that they, the way the 1186 00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:23,840 Eagles that was. That was my first. 1187 00:59:23,840 --> 00:59:26,920 That was my first reaction was. Yeah, I know. 1188 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,240 It's obviously you'd rather have, you know. 1189 00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:32,040 Tight end 10 ass comped. You know, you'd rather have 1190 00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,960 somebody awesome like Kittle or whatever, but I guess the way 1191 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,480 that they will utilize him is very similar in Indianapolis. 1192 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:44,000 Shane Steiken comes from that same offensive tree or whatever 1193 00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:46,840 and basically getting him involved in the screen game, 1194 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:50,520 getting him involved in, you know, quick game, get the ball 1195 00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,000 out of the hands of the quarterback quickly. 1196 00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:56,600 I know that Richardson was insanely inaccurate and had a 1197 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:59,080 had trouble last year completing passes. 1198 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,680 Somebody made the joke too that Tyler Warren is the perfect pick 1199 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,680 for the Colts because when Richardson gets tired he can 1200 01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:09,320 just go out and play quarterback and just do like Wildcat stuff, 1201 01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:13,880 which is hilarious. Makes me. 1202 01:00:13,960 --> 01:00:16,520 Hate YouTube commenters. Anytime anyone has ever 1203 01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,880 mentioned him playing quarterback it does make me just 1204 01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,920 like and how did I get here in my life. 1205 01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,400 Let the let the record show. We actually love you guys to 1206 01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:28,280 comment on these videos. Do not listen to Davis. 1207 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:31,480 Really helps the show out. Hit the like button while you're 1208 01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:32,600 there. I could. 1209 01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,800 Be selling I could be selling insurance at State Farm just get 1210 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,200 off the clock every day at 5:00 I'm home. 1211 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,960 You know, you guys ever think about it might be. 1212 01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:45,840 Sweet. Danny. 1213 01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:47,760 What? What is what? 1214 01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:51,920 What is your backup plan if if fantasy football doesn't work 1215 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,680 out, Didn't work? Out I'm I'm literally not 1216 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,320 qualified to do anything else, Danny. 1217 01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:57,760 There is my plan is there is no plan. 1218 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,320 That's when you turn to just like boosting up your wife to be 1219 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:01,800 the best her that she can possibly. 1220 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:04,920 I have, I have a degree in English literature from a state 1221 01:01:04,920 --> 01:01:07,040 school. Man, I, I can't. 1222 01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:10,400 I can't do nothing. Davis's plan is seeing if late 1223 01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:12,920 round quarterback is doing well enough that David Kitchen needs 1224 01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:15,000 an assistant. Does David Kitchen need an 1225 01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,320 assistant? JJ just has like a rushing 1226 01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,400 nesting nesting doll of of assistance. 1227 01:01:23,240 --> 01:01:25,360 Of of fantasy football flame outs. 1228 01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,520 J JS Home for wayward fantasy football time. 1229 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:37,920 Fantasy. Wayward fantasy. 1230 01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:42,520 Boys. JJ becomes this like messiotic 1231 01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:45,960 figure who's willing to take all the strays. 1232 01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:50,680 Speaking of strays, which which second round faller do you want 1233 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,160 to welcome into the late round? QB home here with pick 13 we can 1234 01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:57,000 pick up the pace on these so we can can get through. 1235 01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:04,000 I'll pass on Jackson Dart because Danny might pass on the 1236 01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:05,320 game theory there. I'm going to go Matthew. 1237 01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:06,880 I'm going to go Matthew Golden here. 1238 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:10,520 I I definitely have concerns about his production profile, 1239 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,560 but like I said before, he's still an early declare. 1240 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,200 I think if he would have gone back, he would have had a much 1241 01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,760 better senior season and you know, draft capitals there. 1242 01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:22,560 And I love the landing spot in Green Bay where Christian 1243 01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,680 Watson's going to be out for most of the season after that 1244 01:02:24,680 --> 01:02:26,600 ACL. So then Golden can play on the 1245 01:02:26,600 --> 01:02:29,040 perimeter of Jaden reading the slot, Romeo Dubs on the other 1246 01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,600 side of the field and both Dubs and Christian Watson are on 1247 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:33,640 their on their final year, their rookie deal. 1248 01:02:33,640 --> 01:02:38,120 So I think as soon as next year he could be by far the obvious 1249 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,720 kind of go to target and then offense. 1250 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:44,640 So I think Golden's a solid pick and I know that the fantasy 1251 01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,960 community is pretty analytics and numbers driven and they're 1252 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,320 kind of turned off. But if you kind of adjust it all 1253 01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,440 and you look at where he, you know, his draft capital and all 1254 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,440 that, he's still a really solid prospect overall. 1255 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,560 Sometimes you just gotta go. That boy nice. 1256 01:02:55,880 --> 01:02:57,920 Yeah, And that boy is nice. That's right. 1257 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:03,960 His intro, his intro at the actual draft where they're going 1258 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,960 go back, go, yeah, go back, go for like a full like it was like 1259 01:03:07,960 --> 01:03:10,760 a a reliever walking on in the bottom of the ninth. 1260 01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,640 You know what I mean? It took took forever. 1261 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:15,720 And I was just like, this was it was the most amazing moment of 1262 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:17,280 any draft you've ever seen. I think. 1263 01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:18,680 So. Like that alone makes me just 1264 01:03:18,680 --> 01:03:22,000 want to kind of bet on golden, even though I I kind of have a 1265 01:03:22,000 --> 01:03:23,960 similar view. I think is a lot of of fantasy 1266 01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,360 players that the analytics are pretty tough. 1267 01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,560 And I don't know if like does the Packer, do the Packers need 1268 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:32,440 like a sixth number two on their roster? 1269 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,480 I don't know, but maybe he can develop into #1 I think. 1270 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,640 How about catchers? A game-winning walk off 1271 01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:41,560 touchdown on 4th and fourteen in a College Football Playoff game. 1272 01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:44,000 Do we like that type of stuff? I thought this was gonna be a 1273 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,440 Jeff Janis anecdote. When? 1274 01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:48,960 He started it. I also I also think that like 1275 01:03:48,960 --> 01:03:51,320 his production profile, at least the stuff that I look at like it 1276 01:03:51,320 --> 01:03:54,120 was bad for sure, but it's not like as bad like it. 1277 01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:58,480 He actually kind of comped with like breakout score and and such 1278 01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:02,600 to Ladd Mcconkey with with my with with a ZAP model. 1279 01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:04,880 And I know if you like look at like yards per out run and yards 1280 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:08,360 per team pass attempt, Mcconkey like beasted in terms of yards 1281 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:10,800 per out run because they just didn't use them as much as they 1282 01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:14,080 should have at Georgia. But golden, I think at least has 1283 01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:17,560 some of that kind of like like can play inside out. 1284 01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,960 You know, I know Mcconkey's going to play more inside, but 1285 01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:21,880 he has that. I mean, Mcconkey has good speed 1286 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:24,360 too, which is another reason why that comp kind of makes some 1287 01:04:24,360 --> 01:04:26,640 sense. So I I think golden is is solid. 1288 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:30,480 All right, Danny, back on the clock, are you in the Judkins 1289 01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:33,240 spot that I was here with Dart or you going to go another 1290 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,880 direction? I'm going to go in another 1291 01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:43,280 direction I think here, even though, you know, my team is 1292 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,360 just already pretty stacked at at quarterbacks. 1293 01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:46,560 Well, I know where you're going then. 1294 01:04:46,560 --> 01:04:53,840 I'll just put Harold Fanning. I'm going to go with Caleb 1295 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:56,840 Johnson, I guess, here. Yeah. 1296 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,600 Sniping JJ on his Steelers man, that is. 1297 01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:01,120 Cruel. Yeah. 1298 01:05:01,120 --> 01:05:03,240 Well, he, you know, he's like trying to play, you know, 1299 01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,560 dynasty game theory with me. So there we go. 1300 01:05:05,960 --> 01:05:09,240 He's rejecting my trains like the gamer fighting you, this 1301 01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:11,240 guy. 'S not gonna not gonna let him 1302 01:05:11,240 --> 01:05:13,040 do the Homer thing here and take care of it. 1303 01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,000 I just think like Caleb Johnson was a player that I really liked 1304 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,640 coming into the draft, but it was very obvious or it seems 1305 01:05:20,640 --> 01:05:23,640 obvious that he's going to need a good landing spot in terms of 1306 01:05:23,640 --> 01:05:28,880 scheme to to kind of like hit his peak and I think the 1307 01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,360 Steelers are certainly one of the better places he could have 1308 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:35,600 landed. You know with Arthur Smith com 1309 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:38,080 plays you know it's obviously going to be a pretty run heavy 1310 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,400 offense I would imagine with whoever they have at 1311 01:05:40,400 --> 01:05:42,120 quarterback. I guess it's probably going to 1312 01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:45,520 be Aaron Rodgers, which does worry me a little bit for Caleb 1313 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:48,960 Johnson year one, just based on the way that they're the run 1314 01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:50,480 game. This is something that Nate Tice 1315 01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,960 pointed out last year for The Jets and it was just it. 1316 01:05:53,320 --> 01:05:55,400 I could never get over it and never like not see it. 1317 01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:59,600 But the way that Aaron Rodgers runs the offense, it's all I'm 1318 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:03,040 going to go to the line, look at everything, make a bunch of 1319 01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:06,960 like, you know, audibles and do like a three-step drop back and 1320 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:08,000 whatever, get rid of the football. 1321 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,760 And it like really effed up their run game because they 1322 01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:14,840 can't do nearly, they can't have nearly as much variety and all 1323 01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,960 that stuff in the run game in terms of like running a normal 1324 01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,720 looking offense. It's all just like basically the 1325 01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:22,000 Aaron Rodgers offense. So that does worry me just 1326 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,480 slightly in year 1. But you know, regardless, I 1327 01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,080 think Caleb Johnson landing with the Steelers, great fit. 1328 01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:30,040 I think immediately it's going to be at the very least to put 1329 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:33,800 like a complimentary option or or whatever, like a platoon with 1330 01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,560 Jalen Warren. So he's going to get early 1331 01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,720 production, good tackle breaker in terms of what he does in that 1332 01:06:40,720 --> 01:06:44,040 scheme where he's really good at getting to the outside once he 1333 01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,480 gets a little bit of speed, picking the lane and and going 1334 01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,360 down downhill, downhill, breaking arm tackles, things 1335 01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:52,080 like that. He has good build up speed to to 1336 01:06:52,080 --> 01:06:55,800 hit the home run. Tons of big plays last year. 1337 01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:58,680 So I don't know, I just he's a player that I thought looked 1338 01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,960 really, really exciting and I thought he landed in a good 1339 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,200 spot. If he could have just ran a 449, 1340 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,520 everyone would be. But but he's but but. 1341 01:07:08,520 --> 01:07:11,320 Falling down trying to be highest on him. 1342 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,400 Yeah, but the only reason why people aren't is because, like 1343 01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,320 he still had a one O 2 speed score. 1344 01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:18,520 Like which is fine. He's big. 1345 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:19,960 Yeah, I know. But like, that's what I'm 1346 01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:21,240 saying. It's like his speed score was 1347 01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:24,480 fine and it's his his even his raw 40 wasn't anything to be 1348 01:07:24,480 --> 01:07:26,280 like overly overly concerned about. 1349 01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:31,360 It wasn't like, what was it? Who's the Panthers running back 1350 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:34,200 who ran like a 4/8? Was it Holyfield? 1351 01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,240 Yeah, I mean, there's been multiples, but a lot of that did 1352 01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,160 run really slow. He ran like a four nine. 1353 01:07:40,280 --> 01:07:44,360 It wasn't like that. But no, I, I I love like the ZAP 1354 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:47,360 model had his top 2 comps as Le'veon Bell and James Conner 1355 01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:51,240 and then of course draft them. So like like it's the most 1356 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:55,000 Pittsburgh Steelers back of all time And and like Jalen Warren's 1357 01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,320 a free agent next year. Like if. 1358 01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:59,640 He's gonna have 4 consecutive seasons of 1400 scrimmage yards 1359 01:07:59,640 --> 01:08:08,680 and it's like no one even cares. I like this guy's just going to 1360 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,400 be better than Quin Shawn Judkins. 1361 01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:12,520 Like I think we could all can we just be honest here? 1362 01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:14,160 He's better than Quin Shawn Judkins. 1363 01:08:15,600 --> 01:08:18,080 I mean, I had him ranked higher. Going into the draft, I think I 1364 01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,000 I had them as at least comparable players. 1365 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,680 Yeah. But like draft capital still 1366 01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:25,040 speaks to some degree here. But yeah, the model loves, loves 1367 01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,920 Caleb Johnson. If you look at what I call low 1368 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,520 risk players, just based on what does that model says versus 1369 01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,160 where they're drafted, and he's a low risk player. 1370 01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:36,760 If you look at round 3 low risk players since 2011, there's been 1371 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:40,240 10 of them, 10 running Max. Four of the 10 gave us RB one 1372 01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,399 seasons, which is crazy because it's the third round where we 1373 01:08:43,399 --> 01:08:45,279 see tons of of bricks all the time. 1374 01:08:45,520 --> 01:08:48,359 So yeah. And and Jalen Warren being a 1375 01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:50,960 free agent next year. If Caleb Johnson shows up, he 1376 01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:54,840 could be a bell cow in 2026. All right, JJ, you get to double 1377 01:08:54,840 --> 01:08:57,560 tap here at 1516. Let the record show. 1378 01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:01,439 These should have been my picks if JJ was willing to trade up 1379 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:03,680 for Quinshawn Judkins, but I'm over it. 1380 01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:04,200 Who are? You taking? 1381 01:09:04,200 --> 01:09:05,880 I should have done it. I should have really done it. 1382 01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:08,040 I'll go Jackson Dart with the first one. 1383 01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:09,640 I'll finally get him off the board. 1384 01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:14,120 I actually think that Dart is more in like from a superflex 1385 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,000 standpoint. He's like the the turn. 1386 01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,920 Yeah, I think that he he should go higher, but but a lot of that 1387 01:09:18,920 --> 01:09:23,000 to me is more so like I do think that upside wise probably has 1388 01:09:23,000 --> 01:09:25,399 even more than Cam Ward if things really, really hit for 1389 01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:27,800 him because there is sort of that mobility factor a little 1390 01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:29,960 bit more. And that like sort sort of like 1391 01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:33,080 D gaffe Josh Allen this to him that like maybe that could 1392 01:09:33,359 --> 01:09:36,640 really transform and he could be a double digit touchdown guy on 1393 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:38,359 the ground if you know if things hit. 1394 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,040 But the other thing too is that like, like we talked about it 1395 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,880 earlier these then the one thing that like we didn't, I mean we 1396 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:46,880 kind of talked about, but but not fully, is that quarterbacks 1397 01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,120 like this generally maintain dynasty value incredibly, 1398 01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,760 incredibly well. And it's not just the situation 1399 01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,600 with Cam Ward and how everything can can sort of work out because 1400 01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:57,800 he's the clear QB one this year. And there's not many other 1401 01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,240 quarterbacks and such like Kenny Pickett, Zach Wilson. 1402 01:10:01,240 --> 01:10:04,920 The only guy who didn't really maintain dynasty value over the 1403 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:09,040 last like decade at quarterback that was a first round pick was 1404 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,840 Bryce Young. And it took Bryce Young 1405 01:10:12,240 --> 01:10:15,200 literally one of the world, as we said earlier, one of the 1406 01:10:15,200 --> 01:10:18,320 worst rookie quarterback seasons ever for him to fall the way 1407 01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:19,560 that he did. And then he ended up bouncing 1408 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,680 back. But I'll just go Jackson Dart 1409 01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,320 here. That's that's my analysis for 1410 01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:25,240 him. And who are you going with at 1411 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,640 16? This one's kind of tough because 1412 01:10:27,640 --> 01:10:30,280 I think that there is kind of a tear break here. 1413 01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:33,320 I'm I'll just go with Jayden Higgins. 1414 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:36,360 I think that you can make the argument for like a Trey Harris 1415 01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:39,600 here even like I really like Bashal Tootin, so I could even 1416 01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:42,600 go that direction. But I'll go Higgins. 1417 01:10:43,400 --> 01:10:47,400 You know, I had Harmon on my podcast to talk wide receivers 1418 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,840 pre draft and one of the things that he mentioned with Higgins 1419 01:10:49,840 --> 01:10:53,080 that he saw him as a power slot, which is Matt Harmon speak for. 1420 01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,280 I don't think he's as good as other people think that he is. 1421 01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,040 You know, he he said the same thing with like a Keon Coleman 1422 01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,480 last year, which ended up being exactly right. 1423 01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:02,760 Like Keon Coleman should not be a perimeter receiver. 1424 01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,320 And that's where how the Bills are going to be using him, you 1425 01:11:05,320 --> 01:11:07,240 know, moving forward because they just signed Khalil Shakur. 1426 01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,720 But the thing that I like about Higgins, at first, I was really 1427 01:11:10,720 --> 01:11:13,040 excited when he got drafted in Round 2 because they hadn't 1428 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,520 drafted Jalen Knoll yet. And I was like, oh, wow, powers 1429 01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,840 like, like Harmon was right. Like he could, they could, they 1430 01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,840 could really get versatile with the way that they're, they're 1431 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,760 deploying him and lining him at the line of scrimmage. 1432 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:25,600 But obviously they, they went and they drafted Jalen Noel, 1433 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:27,800 they have Christian Kirk. So I think Higgins is going to 1434 01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:31,080 play opposite of Nico Collins, But I think that's probably a 1435 01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:32,760 good thing. I, I, I don't think that that 1436 01:11:32,760 --> 01:11:36,680 Higgins is necessarily going to be some stud X, you know, at the 1437 01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,400 next level. But if he has, if he's not asked 1438 01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,120 to be that, which he's not going to be in Houston, I think that's 1439 01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:44,320 a, a good thing. Overall, It's a, it's a landing 1440 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,880 spot where he could hypothetically see a 20% target 1441 01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:49,640 share in year 1. I'm I'm bullish on a bounce 1442 01:11:49,640 --> 01:11:53,280 back, you know, with with Bobby slow it gone in in Houston. 1443 01:11:53,280 --> 01:11:56,120 So I'll go Jaden Higgins here because I think, you know, I I 1444 01:11:56,120 --> 01:11:57,720 think that his year one could actually be OK. 1445 01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,720 And then there's Upside too, if things were to happen to like 1446 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:02,800 Nico and such. All right, Davis, the chat 1447 01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:05,120 earlier. Davis, you got to cook. 1448 01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,120 This next one up, do something crazy here, Davis. 1449 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:12,600 They want you to go full wild card at pick 17 and 18. 1450 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,880 All right. Well, first up, give me beshell 1451 01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:19,480 tooten, please. University of Virginia Tech 1452 01:12:19,960 --> 01:12:23,880 North Carolina A&T Jacksonville Jaguar starting running back 1453 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:25,960 again. Like, we can stop pretending 1454 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:29,840 that Travis ETN is any good. And you can also, you can also 1455 01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:32,680 all stop pretending that you've done a deep dive on Tank 1456 01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:36,680 Bigsby's 2024 film. Like just completely miss me 1457 01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:39,760 with the dude. You actually look Bigsby. 1458 01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,640 Really enough, enough Travis ETN. 1459 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,720 Travis ETN has Duck Deep. Right. 1460 01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,280 Not even gonna tell us what they're saying about him. 1461 01:12:50,200 --> 01:12:52,760 Oh actually bakes me. Really improved his pad level, 1462 01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:55,320 his hip. Swivel's phenomenal in Year 2. 1463 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,600 OK, David, David's a sports wunderkind back in the day, was 1464 01:12:58,600 --> 01:13:00,240 doing that exact kind of analysis. 1465 01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,120 And that guy was a Dick. JJ, that guy, that guy was a 1466 01:13:03,120 --> 01:13:03,880 Dick. He learned. 1467 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:06,800 He learned his lesson. I think Vishal Tootin is the 1468 01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:11,440 best example in this draft class of how the fact that there were 1469 01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:14,240 25 good running backs impacted draft capital. 1470 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:17,520 It's why we saw a run of what, 8 running backs got selected in 1471 01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:20,400 round four and they were all like cascading one after 1472 01:13:20,400 --> 01:13:22,720 another. And in fact, the Texans were so 1473 01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:26,720 afraid on missing out that they traded a future 3rd to go get 1474 01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:28,800 woody marks because they were like, oh shit, the run's 1475 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:31,520 happening now. So we we got to go do it. 1476 01:13:31,520 --> 01:13:35,560 So I don't really care. The Tooten scataboo, these guys 1477 01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:40,200 have round 4 draft capital. To me, I'm like the Tooten is 1478 01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:44,360 going to have just as much of a crack at being was starting 1479 01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,720 running back for this team as if he would have been taken with 1480 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,040 the Caleb Johnson pick for the Jaguars. 1481 01:13:49,040 --> 01:13:54,520 And even if you grant that Bigsby did get much better in 1482 01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:59,840 year 2, ETN is is his fifth year option got picked up by the old 1483 01:13:59,840 --> 01:14:04,520 regime I think maybe even 2 regimes ago if I if I remember 1484 01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:05,840 correctly. That's wrong. 1485 01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:11,360 He got drafted 3 regimes ago. The option was picked up by by 1486 01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:15,880 the former regime. Tootin is is he's going to be 1487 01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:18,080 the one that you look back and you go how is this guy? 1488 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,920 How did Davis get this guy, dude? 1489 01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,000 Yeah, we'll be looking at this. They're all going to be saying. 1490 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:25,960 That hey God, is this comment from my guy Charlie? 1491 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,640 Is this sarcasm? Danny, do you like Tootin or do 1492 01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:29,240 you actually? Love him. 1493 01:14:29,240 --> 01:14:30,880 Oh, we're all we're all tootin folks. 1494 01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,480 We're all rootin for tootin. Out there, we're all rooting for 1495 01:14:33,480 --> 01:14:35,280 Tootin. No, I, I really like him. 1496 01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,800 He he's, he is on the spectrum of Devon E Chan. 1497 01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:43,160 You know this, You know this. The scene from Talladega Nights 1498 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:46,680 where Molly Shannon is like when the cars. 1499 01:14:47,160 --> 01:14:51,320 Go by. That's Danny watching, too. 1500 01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,600 That's like there's only been a few running backs that make me 1501 01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:58,480 do that and Devon A Chan was one of them before the draft and 1502 01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:01,480 then he landed in the net spot with with Miami and, and I think 1503 01:15:01,560 --> 01:15:03,000 this could be a great spot for him. 1504 01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:06,880 Obviously the Liam Cohen connection with, with Bucky 1505 01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,880 Irving last year in terms of trusting a young guy, a middle 1506 01:15:09,880 --> 01:15:12,320 round guy. JJ, I think you tweeted 1507 01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:16,720 something like a couple weeks ago that was like a table of day 1508 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,120 three running backs versus day 2 receivers. 1509 01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,040 Was that you in terms of like the hit rate? 1510 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:24,600 Yeah, the hit rates were bad when you like like the the round 1511 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:28,000 two wide receivers are better than day three running backs, 1512 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:29,880 which isn't round four. I think I might have just said 1513 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:33,360 round 4 running backs like some some pick range, but like to be 1514 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:35,600 clear, like in like in the ZAP model and stuff like I'm just 1515 01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:38,640 putting rod draft capital and he was one O 4 overall. 1516 01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,520 So like he still looks really, really good. 1517 01:15:40,520 --> 01:15:43,280 He actually has a better score in the model than RJ Harvey has, 1518 01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:47,240 which is not easy to do. Yeah, not easy to to do whenever 1519 01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:48,640 you're, you know, a day three pick. 1520 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:52,040 But Tooting man, like actually the the comp that I had in the 1521 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:54,840 model was, was your boy Kenneth Walker. 1522 01:15:56,040 --> 01:15:58,360 I know, I think that actually also made me really excited 1523 01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:00,520 about it when I see it. Wasn't it something like to do 1524 01:16:00,520 --> 01:16:04,280 with Speed Score and? And size and speed score, yeah, 1525 01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:06,680 like, like there's a lot and, and even like they're, they both 1526 01:16:06,680 --> 01:16:09,800 had pretty good breakout scores, which is adjusted like receiving 1527 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:12,000 arts for team past 10. Like the like Tooting's 1528 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,160 receiving profile is really good for like a guy that's his size 1529 01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:18,040 and then you add on the speed and I think that the combination 1530 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,120 of him and tank Bigsby actually makes a lot of sense. 1531 01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:23,120 Like just from like a a backfield tandem standpoint and 1532 01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:26,840 and Travis ETN could be traded like before the season starts, 1533 01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:29,000 which would be nuts. Or or just cut. 1534 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,920 They did it to Fournette, same team. 1535 01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:37,440 Yeah, I I don't have a. They're going to have to keep 1 1536 01:16:37,440 --> 01:16:39,840 of ETN or Bixby though. Davis, you're going to have to 1537 01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:42,040 decide which which one of their trash. 1538 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,680 No dude, they took, they took Laquint Allen two man. 1539 01:16:44,680 --> 01:16:46,280 Yeah, I was going to say, they're just going to be. 1540 01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:48,600 A Laquint Allen is better than both of them too. 1541 01:16:49,000 --> 01:16:50,040 Real. So real. 1542 01:16:50,120 --> 01:16:50,840 Yeah. Quint Allen. 1543 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:53,640 I'm about to take him with my next pick. 1544 01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,720 Yeah, who? Who is your next pick Speaking 1545 01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,600 of? I wanted to do something weird, 1546 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,600 I want to do something fun for the chat and there are no 1547 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,480 consequences here, so I'll just take Jaden Blue. 1548 01:17:06,320 --> 01:17:09,440 Yeah, you're not kidding. How was your shot? 1549 01:17:10,480 --> 01:17:14,160 Jaden Blue. Jaden Blue actively sucks. 1550 01:17:14,240 --> 01:17:16,720 Jaden Blue is still true. Suck. 1551 01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:20,200 No, we would have never known Jaden Blue. 1552 01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:22,080 Who? We wouldn't even know who this 1553 01:17:22,080 --> 01:17:24,200 dude was if CJ Baxter didn't tear his ACL. 1554 01:17:24,200 --> 01:17:25,120 OK, OK. I thought you. 1555 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,760 Were talking about this dude. This dude was the running back 1556 01:17:27,760 --> 01:17:30,920 four on the Texas Longhorns, and now he's about to be the running 1557 01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:35,000 back one on the Dallas Cowboys, which is such a perfect 1558 01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:39,680 encapsulation of the Dallas. Calvin the Texas The Texas 1559 01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:43,200 backfield was legit better than like all but one backfield in 1560 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:48,440 the NFL. Even want this is killing me. 1561 01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,800 It's just like I, I'm sure you guys have had this experience in 1562 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:57,920 dynasty leagues before where you have a million guys who are 1563 01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:59,960 exactly Trey Harris on your dynasty league. 1564 01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:02,680 You have 8 wide receivers. All of them are ranked in 1565 01:18:02,680 --> 01:18:06,200 between wide receiver 24 and wide receiver 36 on keep trade 1566 01:18:06,200 --> 01:18:07,760 cut. And you're like, these dudes 1567 01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,280 suck. I don't want to start any of 1568 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:12,240 them. Yeah, at least with Jayden Blue, 1569 01:18:12,440 --> 01:18:15,480 you'll be like, Jayden Blue comes out Week 2. 1570 01:18:15,480 --> 01:18:19,280 Javonte totally sucks. Week 1 Blue comes out week 211 1571 01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:21,800 rushes, 112 yards and a touchdown. 1572 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:24,960 He's immediately. He's immediately. 1573 01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:31,160 I love the ball. Oh my God if if Reddit didn't 1574 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:37,080 like by RJ Harvey. This is this is going in the 1575 01:18:37,080 --> 01:18:42,280 newsletter next week. I'll go ahead and take Cam 1576 01:18:42,280 --> 01:18:44,440 Scatibow. At 19. 1577 01:18:44,680 --> 01:18:48,080 An actual good running back? Josh McDaniels. 1578 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,960 Did Jayden Blue run two 40s before Cam Scatibow finished his 1579 01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,840 first? One I have to say with Jayden 1580 01:18:54,840 --> 01:18:58,720 Blue, I do have to say like the the the ZAP model like loves 1581 01:18:58,720 --> 01:19:02,000 Jayden Blue like like and which is not a normal thing usually. 1582 01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:05,440 Speak on that. Confirm my priors. 1583 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:07,440 Really good, really good receiving numbers. 1584 01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:08,720 So it it just likes. Him. 1585 01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:09,560 No, he. You. 1586 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,560 You're not understanding. I hate Jaden Blue. 1587 01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,840 I think he stinks. He doesn't stink. 1588 01:19:14,520 --> 01:19:16,360 He's, he's actually, I think he's actually good. 1589 01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:20,480 Dude, he got benched for a guy named Contravian Wizner. 1590 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,440 Hey, Wizner popped. Yeah, Wizner popped a little 1591 01:19:26,440 --> 01:19:28,200 bit. No, I think, I think Blue's 1592 01:19:28,200 --> 01:19:30,120 decent man. I mean, like he's, he's clearly 1593 01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,440 just like a sort of scat backy kind of player. 1594 01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:36,360 Like. Yeah, Justice Hill is probably 1595 01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:39,440 is is was my comp I think, but imagine. 1596 01:19:39,480 --> 01:19:42,720 But here's the thing. Imagine Justice Hill when is RB? 1597 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:45,280 One is Javonte Williams. Right, exactly. 1598 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:47,800 Thank you for making the case for my pick for. 1599 01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:48,880 Me. I mean, it's a terrible pick, 1600 01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:53,960 18th overall. Yeah, but that's the part we got 1601 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,520 to register. All right, Daddy, pick 20 here. 1602 01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,200 Get us back on track. Davis doing the wild thing makes 1603 01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:02,400 me have to do something boring here I feel like. 1604 01:20:03,560 --> 01:20:07,400 Yeah, Congrats on on Jayden Higgins or or Jaylen Knoll. 1605 01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,280 Higgins is off the board, by the way. 1606 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:14,920 I wasn't paying attention so. This is this one I guess comes 1607 01:20:14,920 --> 01:20:17,320 down to if I'm looking at my ranks and trying to be real to 1608 01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,840 them, it comes down to Jack Besh or Trey Harris. 1609 01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,040 I think Harris probably is better analytically, but I'm 1610 01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:29,360 going to go with Jack Besh here because of vibes. 1611 01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:32,120 Purely vibes I. Love those vibes. 1612 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:36,000 Speak on those vibes. He is the perfect Pete Carroll 1613 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:41,040 guy in terms of Pete Carroll's looked at grit as like a big 1614 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:42,760 deal in his program for a long time. 1615 01:20:42,760 --> 01:20:45,360 Obviously, Jack Besh went through tragedy when he lost his 1616 01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:49,040 brother in the terrorist attack in New Orleans and then 1617 01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:52,160 immediately turned around and was the MVP of the Senior Bowl. 1618 01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,520 You know, obviously there's a lot to unpack there, but him 1619 01:20:56,080 --> 01:20:58,680 being able to play through that I think showed a lot of like, 1620 01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:00,680 you know, ability to get through adversity. 1621 01:21:00,680 --> 01:21:03,520 And I think Pete Carroll loves that also. 1622 01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:07,720 He's just if, if he can come in and be like, I think I think he 1623 01:21:07,720 --> 01:21:10,480 has the opportunity to come in and be like a high volume guy in 1624 01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:12,120 that offense right away. Just because they don't have 1625 01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:16,400 enough ton of other playmakers. I don't know what Jacoby Meyer's 1626 01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:17,760 contract situation is. Does he? 1627 01:21:17,760 --> 01:21:23,320 Is he up in a year or two? I think God that's not what I 1628 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,760 meant exactly. The vibes are out of control for 1629 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,400 him going like basically since the end of the season he's shot. 1630 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:34,360 Up for the The best haters The best haters, including Peter, 1631 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,640 are just totally going to have to to my. 1632 01:21:37,440 --> 01:21:41,600 My best hate is his his best ball price right now I'm fine 1633 01:21:41,600 --> 01:21:44,800 with Jack Bash and and Dynas. He hate the ADP, not the player, 1634 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:45,240 right? Yeah. 1635 01:21:45,240 --> 01:21:48,680 Jacoby Myers had like 4 1/2 good games after Devonte Adams got 1636 01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:50,400 traded. You're going to keep losing 1637 01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:52,600 their minds. Pete's passing on a player who 1638 01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,440 outperformed Malik Neighbors and Brian Thomas Junior. 1639 01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:59,000 And Trey Palmer. And Trey Palmer and Brian Thomas 1640 01:21:59,000 --> 01:22:01,400 Junior. Davis thinks Jacoby Myers is 1641 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,080 Tank Bigsby. Like the way he talks about him 1642 01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:05,880 it's. Myers is AI. 1643 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:07,520 Think Myers is a free agent next year? 1644 01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:10,680 Yeah. So, so I don't know, I just 1645 01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:16,800 think, you know, add in I liked him a lot doing his prospect 1646 01:22:16,800 --> 01:22:18,000 profile. Then I'll add in. 1647 01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:22,320 I think Matt Harmon's absolutely glowing account of how he wins 1648 01:22:22,320 --> 01:22:25,560 against man end zone. I'm just like, I don't know, I, 1649 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,480 I just I'm willing to bet on that right now in this draft. 1650 01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:31,560 I think, you know, earlier this is about as early as I'll go 1651 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:34,040 with like this kind of tier of receivers. 1652 01:22:34,840 --> 01:22:38,280 I unfortunately got a whole bunch of Jalen Knoll on pre 1653 01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:41,600 draft rookie drafts and then him falling to third round and being 1654 01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,880 like whatever the wide receiver 16 or whatever it was coming, 1655 01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,080 you know, coming out of the draft is a pretty big bummer. 1656 01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:51,640 But so I did think about Jalen Noel here too, but I think 1657 01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:54,760 that's just a longer bet at this point. 1658 01:22:55,480 --> 01:22:58,600 I feel like everyone needs to go to and Google who's Houston 1659 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,440 Texans are lads and look at their wide receiver depth chart. 1660 01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:05,840 They're it's insane how many wide receivers they have on that 1661 01:23:05,840 --> 01:23:08,440 team right now. Like it, it, it's mind blowing. 1662 01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:11,640 But also Jack Besh, people are gonna fall in love with him 1663 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:14,400 'cause he's like a puka where he just throws his body around, you 1664 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:18,400 know, just like aimlessly. Look, look at all the they have. 1665 01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:21,560 They have 16 wide receivers. Justin Watson and saw the 1666 01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:24,080 Texans, now they. Have so many wide receivers it's 1667 01:23:24,080 --> 01:23:27,480 crazy. That's they they had like Tank 1668 01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:29,840 Del got injured in that game against the Chiefs and they're 1669 01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,560 like, this will never happen to us again. 1670 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,360 We will get 14 wide. Receivers. 1671 01:23:34,360 --> 01:23:35,800 All right, I'll, I'll do Trey Harris. 1672 01:23:36,280 --> 01:23:40,920 I'm pretty stoked on him playing opposite LAD in this offense. 1673 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:43,040 I mean, obviously you have the concerns that they're just gonna 1674 01:23:43,040 --> 01:23:45,080 run the shit out of the ball and it was already kind of low 1675 01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:49,840 volume with LAD, but immediately gonna be on the field. 1676 01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:54,160 Not even much other competition via the tight end for targets 1677 01:23:54,160 --> 01:23:57,280 like he should immediately be the the number 2 target earner 1678 01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:58,560 there. So I think that's pretty 1679 01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,360 exciting. I think there's a few different 1680 01:24:01,360 --> 01:24:06,360 ways you could go there or with this next pick, I will do the 1681 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,720 Jalen Knoll thing here. I think there's like some fun 1682 01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,040 the way that they drafted both of these guys. 1683 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,280 Like even though all of us, I think, and the market and the 1684 01:24:15,280 --> 01:24:18,280 draft capital all prefer Higgins, I don't think it's like 1685 01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:23,000 outlandish to think that that Knoll could end up being the 1686 01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:24,920 better of the two over the longer term. 1687 01:24:26,600 --> 01:24:30,320 Christian Kirk I think might be more of a short term roadblock 1688 01:24:30,800 --> 01:24:33,480 as far as playing in the slot, but Jalen Knoll is the long term 1689 01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,840 slot wide receiver and I won't even call him a power slot. 1690 01:24:36,840 --> 01:24:39,680 I'll just call him a slot I. Think that could work out? 1691 01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,560 But Davis, you got another trick shot for the crowd at 23. 1692 01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:45,880 Yeah. Can I get a clarification? 1693 01:24:45,880 --> 01:24:47,960 It's just tight in premium. People do. 1694 01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,640 I mean, if it's not, Danny's team is in shambles. 1695 01:24:50,640 --> 01:24:51,960 All. Right. 1696 01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,720 Give me Mason Taylor. Did you know that he's Jason 1697 01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,640 Taylor's shit? Is he son? 1698 01:24:57,640 --> 01:25:00,320 Son. He he better tighten. 1699 01:25:00,440 --> 01:25:04,920 That Zach Thomas nephew. So now that Allen, now that 1700 01:25:04,920 --> 01:25:08,560 Allen Lazard is going to the Pittsburgh Steelers, the the 1701 01:25:08,560 --> 01:25:11,080 second target for The Jets is just like you want to talk. 1702 01:25:11,080 --> 01:25:13,720 It's the reverse of the tax and step chart. 1703 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:18,040 They actually just have no one. They're actually just no 1704 01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:20,880 available watch. Malachi Corley, Eraser. 1705 01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,720 Yeah, Racer. Nicole Hardman unironic would 1706 01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:24,840 be. Aryan Smith. 1707 01:25:25,240 --> 01:25:28,320 Aryan Oh, that was that was the worst pick right of the. 1708 01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:29,560 Draft. That was the that was probably 1709 01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:31,120 the worst pick of the entire draft, yeah. 1710 01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mason Taylor. 1711 01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,160 Yeah, crowd. Crowd surprised over Fannin over 1712 01:25:36,160 --> 01:25:39,160 Arroyo. For Terrence Ferguson, Terrence 1713 01:25:39,160 --> 01:25:43,360 Ferguson's my my guy, like myself, loves Terrence Ferguson. 1714 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,720 He's he's a, he's a freak athlete, but. 1715 01:25:45,840 --> 01:25:48,280 Les, Les Sneed said. Yeah, whenever Tyler Higbee 1716 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,320 retires, we'll be glad we have to Ferguson. 1717 01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:52,160 Direct quote, Yeah. Direct. 1718 01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:54,160 Well, this is a dynasty. Draft Davis. 1719 01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,680 You get him for the duration of his career. 1720 01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,960 Who, how, who knows how long this league is going to run like 1721 01:25:59,040 --> 01:26:00,760 I don't. Know who might not be alive? 1722 01:26:01,000 --> 01:26:03,480 Who knows how long, how long Tyler Higbee is going to be in 1723 01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:06,640 the NFL? All right, final pick of the 1724 01:26:06,640 --> 01:26:08,120 second round here. Danny. 1725 01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:10,320 Who do you want to sneak in? Make it fun. 1726 01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,600 Well, I'm not going to do OK, make it fun. 1727 01:26:14,760 --> 01:26:17,120 I'm gonna give you I'm I'm also gonna give everyone a chance to 1728 01:26:17,120 --> 01:26:18,440 make it fun. Right after this. 1729 01:26:18,440 --> 01:26:22,040 I'll let you do your your favorite player who Sleeper who 1730 01:26:22,040 --> 01:26:23,640 wasn't drafted third fourth round type. 1731 01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,200 Got it, got it, got it, got it. Let's see here. 1732 01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:30,880 I think so the boring pick would be 1 of Elijah Arroyo, Terrence 1733 01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:33,960 Ferguson or Kyle Williams. I'm gonna go with Jalen Milro. 1734 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,880 Just just I think this is the range ish. 1735 01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:44,440 He's going maybe like early 3rd. It just depends on how excited 1736 01:26:44,440 --> 01:26:46,880 you are about this possibility. But I think he's the one 1737 01:26:46,880 --> 01:26:51,560 quarterback in this class that you kind of ignore the third 1738 01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:54,360 round draft capital and just look at what he could be if he 1739 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,560 does end up starting. I think in Seattle it's a 1740 01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,080 perfect landing spot for him because I he's not going to be 1741 01:27:00,080 --> 01:27:02,840 required to start right away and Sam Darnold will be there for a 1742 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:06,240 year, maybe 2 years. But I don't think the Seahawks 1743 01:27:06,240 --> 01:27:08,080 see Sam Darnold as the long term option. 1744 01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:10,560 I don't think anyone really is deluding themselves into 1745 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,640 believing Sam Darnold is a long term franchise savior type of 1746 01:27:13,640 --> 01:27:16,960 quarterback. And I don't know, I just like 1747 01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:20,800 the idea of Melro sitting for two years and and being able to 1748 01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,240 come out and, you know, he has that superhero upside as a 1749 01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:27,760 runner that, you know, even if he's Justin Fields level passer, 1750 01:27:27,760 --> 01:27:30,200 he could still be AQB one if he starts for a year. 1751 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,600 So just kind of bank, bank on the upside, hope for the upside. 1752 01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:39,160 Yeah, I like that pick. Let's do real quick. 1753 01:27:39,160 --> 01:27:43,120 Everybody gets one sleeper, their favorite sleeper, third, 1754 01:27:43,120 --> 01:27:47,520 fourth round. Davis already took his pick 18. 1755 01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,360 But KJ, do you do you have a favorite third or fourth round? 1756 01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,320 A guy you are scooping up a bunch of. 1757 01:27:53,880 --> 01:27:56,480 Yeah, I mean, look, in this draft, I would my next guy would 1758 01:27:56,480 --> 01:27:58,800 have been Kyle Williams if we if we were if we were going to keep 1759 01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,120 drafting. But but I want to give you. 1760 01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,160 My real original. My, my, that's not my, that's 1761 01:28:03,160 --> 01:28:06,000 not my my go to here, Davis. I'm just making the comment 1762 01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:09,840 about Kyle Williams. I'm going to say a guy that I 1763 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,640 loved as a day three sleeper before the draft and then he 1764 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,320 found what I think is a really good spot is Jarquez Hunter out 1765 01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:21,280 of Auburn going to to the Rams. He's the same exact kind of size 1766 01:28:21,280 --> 01:28:24,360 as what we get out of like Blake Quorum and Kyron Williams. 1767 01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,960 And if you look at how that that honestly, that coaching tree 1768 01:28:27,960 --> 01:28:31,160 kind of looks at their running Max, they they typically will 1769 01:28:31,160 --> 01:28:33,840 rotate like by Dr. rather than down in distance. 1770 01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:38,360 And when you look at Hunter, he's sort of a copy paste of 1771 01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,960 Kyron Williams, Blake Quorum, except he's actually explosive 1772 01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:44,640 and they don't have that in that backfield at all. 1773 01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,240 He had one of the best breakout scores in this year's class 1774 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,440 according to that model. I just I love the spot and I 1775 01:28:51,440 --> 01:28:55,360 think that he's immediately could be better than than than 1776 01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:57,800 Blake Quorum and Kyron Williams could be gone next year. 1777 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,640 So then all of a sudden dark Wes Hunter could be the the starting 1778 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:02,320 running back for the Rams in 2026. 1779 01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:07,160 Love it. Danny Favorite deep sleeper in 1780 01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:09,640 these drafts. This is a guy that I took a 1781 01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,600 whole bunch before the draft and then I guess the landing spot 1782 01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:16,240 was decent and it's Jordan James out of Oregon, landed with the 1783 01:29:16,240 --> 01:29:21,320 49ers, obviously blocked in the short term in theory with 1784 01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,880 Christian McCaffrey and Isaac Arendo. 1785 01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:27,800 But I think Mccaffrey's just such a wild card. 1786 01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:30,960 You know, he had two Achilles injuries last year, kept him off 1787 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:32,240 the field almost the entire season. 1788 01:29:32,240 --> 01:29:34,240 Who knows what's going to happen with him this year. 1789 01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:39,000 He's getting up there in age. The 49ers are in a bit of like a 1790 01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,440 transitional period, I think, in terms of resetting the roster, 1791 01:29:42,440 --> 01:29:45,120 resetting the defense. Maybe, you know, Christian 1792 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,360 McCaffrey just doesn't last long in San Francisco. 1793 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:52,160 I think Jordan James is a, is kind of like a, He reminds me a 1794 01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:57,400 lot of Jordan Mason in terms of sort of just a rugged short 1795 01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:01,680 squat, you know, body type runs really, really hard, breaks a 1796 01:30:01,680 --> 01:30:04,640 lot of tackles, doesn't have a ton of long speed, but just kind 1797 01:30:04,640 --> 01:30:06,360 of has good vision, picks the right holes. 1798 01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,640 And, you know, I think he's just going to get yards where he's 1799 01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:12,440 supposed to, which I, I am now just projecting this. 1800 01:30:12,440 --> 01:30:14,600 But I think Kyle Shanahan is going to like that. 1801 01:30:14,600 --> 01:30:16,760 He's the type, he just seems like the type of running back 1802 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:20,200 Kyle Shanahan will like just because he gets what's there and 1803 01:30:20,200 --> 01:30:23,000 isn't going to like dance around too much and, and do any of the 1804 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,080 type of BS that that Shanahan never puts up with. 1805 01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:29,640 So, you know, obviously you have to wait a little a while for it 1806 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,920 to pan out probably. But Jordan James is a guy that I 1807 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,200 would keep in mind in the fourth round. 1808 01:30:34,200 --> 01:30:37,640 Love it, Davis, who's your sleeper? 1809 01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:45,760 Heart answer Prashard Smith head answer Woody Marks yeah, he's a 1810 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:51,200 he he he sucks like he really sucks, but they traded they 1811 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:52,480 traded he's. Picking all the players he 1812 01:30:52,480 --> 01:30:55,280 thinks suck. They traded no blue. 1813 01:30:55,320 --> 01:31:00,160 Blue at least has like a trait like Mark, yeah. 1814 01:31:00,440 --> 01:31:02,240 Mark's, Mark's got a ton of passes. 1815 01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:04,640 I mean, it was Mike Leach in his offense resting, right? 1816 01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:06,400 Yeah, so did. So did DeAndre. 1817 01:31:06,440 --> 01:31:09,000 Washington and Max Borgie. Right. 1818 01:31:09,280 --> 01:31:11,560 Oh my God, I still and Max Borgie signed. 1819 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:12,920 There's a Williams guy, wouldn't think. 1820 01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:16,000 Yeah, yeah, there was. Oh, oh, What was his name? 1821 01:31:17,160 --> 01:31:19,000 From Wazoo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1822 01:31:19,240 --> 01:31:22,280 But actually Max Borghi was was Woody Mark's top comp in the 1823 01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:25,840 model, which was. Hilarious like I like I'm saying 1824 01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,600 like he he like I would not be surprised if he like actually 1825 01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:33,520 like doesn't play, but. James Williams. 1826 01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:36,160 James Williams. He was he was on the Chiefs 1827 01:31:36,160 --> 01:31:38,240 practice squad. That was when I first started 1828 01:31:38,240 --> 01:31:40,920 like prospecting and I was like, I really like this guy, like as 1829 01:31:40,920 --> 01:31:43,360 I had no idea what I'm doing. And then I learned about Mike 1830 01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,240 Leach very quickly. Yeah, I'll do. 1831 01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:50,760 My guy I'm pretty intrigued by is Pat Bryant, apparently a 1832 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,120 glutton for punishment with the Sean Payton guys you hate. 1833 01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:56,240 Marvin Mims, dude. No, I The thing is, I love. 1834 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:57,680 Marvin, Devon. Vailey. 1835 01:31:58,480 --> 01:32:01,760 But Marvin Mims is 4 foot 12 and Pat Bryant is his new Michael 1836 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:04,160 Thomas, according to Sean Payton. 1837 01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:08,000 So we know Sean Payton, despite drafting a bunch of small, 1838 01:32:08,000 --> 01:32:12,760 lightweight wide receivers, is a size queen, and Pat Bryant fits 1839 01:32:12,760 --> 01:32:14,200 the bill. I kind of like just the 1840 01:32:14,240 --> 01:32:17,200 ambiguity, the mystery box upside there. 1841 01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:20,600 And we know he will give any wide receiver a shot. 1842 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:23,440 You do not have to worry about Pat Bryant not seeing the field. 1843 01:32:23,440 --> 01:32:26,800 This man found room for little Jordan Humphrey in the wide 1844 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,560 receiver rotation. He'll find some room for Pat 1845 01:32:29,560 --> 01:32:31,040 Bryant to see if he's got anything. 1846 01:32:32,120 --> 01:32:35,080 I like it. All right, I appreciate you guys 1847 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,000 so much for for hanging out with us. 1848 01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:41,080 JJ let people know. Updated late round prospect 1849 01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,200 guide, David Kitchen, Pantone colors, the whole 9 yards. 1850 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,120 Where do they get it? Yeah, if you want to check out 1851 01:32:46,120 --> 01:32:48,640 all of David Kitchen's work, check out Late Round dot. 1852 01:32:48,760 --> 01:32:51,680 Com. You can you can purchase the 1853 01:32:51,680 --> 01:32:54,600 prospect guide and see all the amazing things that he did with 1854 01:32:54,600 --> 01:32:57,240 that guide this year. That's right. 1855 01:32:57,480 --> 01:33:00,400 You the tree is now or no, the guide is now part of David 1856 01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,160 Kitchen's. That's right. 1857 01:33:01,160 --> 01:33:04,680 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Danny, we got the Ringer Draft 1858 01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:06,840 Guide, one of my favorite, like aesthetic. 1859 01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,520 With all due respect to David Kitchen's work, I mean the 1860 01:33:09,520 --> 01:33:12,280 aesthetics and the layout. The UI on the Ringer Draft Guide 1861 01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:14,520 is is awesome. I appreciate that I wrote it 1862 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:16,520 all. I'm actually responsible for it. 1863 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:19,520 So I'm not actually I don't, I don't get to take any credit 1864 01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,280 for. That you wrote the words that. 1865 01:33:21,280 --> 01:33:23,800 Are I did write the words. You didn't mention the words 1866 01:33:23,800 --> 01:33:25,440 though. No, I. 1867 01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:29,680 Love the words. Yeah, check out that and then 1868 01:33:29,680 --> 01:33:32,640 check out The Ringer Fantasy Football Show, my podcast, which 1869 01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:34,720 we are going to do about once a week during the summer, but then 1870 01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,400 we ramp back up to four times a week during the preseason and 1871 01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:39,320 season. Great, great show. 1872 01:33:39,320 --> 01:33:43,480 Love it. Davis, what do you have going on 1873 01:33:43,480 --> 01:33:46,640 here? I'll have a members only stream 1874 01:33:46,640 --> 01:33:48,720 tomorrow. Good stuff. 1875 01:33:48,760 --> 01:33:50,280 I have to have videos up on my channel. 1876 01:33:50,680 --> 01:33:53,720 If you if you want to check out some videos you don't like 3 1877 01:33:53,720 --> 01:33:57,520 hour live streams, there's some shorter, more digestible content 1878 01:33:57,800 --> 01:34:00,680 you can find there. Beautiful, beautiful. 1879 01:34:00,680 --> 01:34:04,200 I'll be back with Best ball breakfast on my channel on 1880 01:34:04,280 --> 01:34:08,080 Monday. Neil Orfield, who just I saw 1881 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:13,320 past the baton a dynasty roster to JJ will be guesting on there 1882 01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:17,560 along with Leonie and Pat Hope everybody has a great Friday and 1883 01:34:17,560 --> 01:34:20,040 rest of your weekend. Wish your mother's a happy 1884 01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:25,320 Mother's Day as well and we will see you guys next time on ship 1885 01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:26,240 chasing peace.