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Good morning from sunny Buffalo.
I'm Mike Schoke. 

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Thanks for being with us. 
ADP chasing. 

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A lot has happened in our heroes
worlds since we last convened a 

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week ago. 
Jacob has kicked off. 

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I believe the number was 63 
rookie drafts. 

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We'll find out if that's a real 
number. 

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It's amazing. 
You can also. 

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He also called it his favorite 
time of the year, and that's not

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only because he can probably 
smell the Stanley Cup out there 

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in Western Canada. 
The Leafs up 1. 

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Nothing in Round 2. 
Davis has created the slap kick.

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slappy.org.gov. 
I don't know whatever that is. 

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That's got his, you know, 250 
and counting best ball drafts in

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the bank already pushing out 
rankings and articles and 

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raising an infant. 
We're we're told we can hear a 

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child talking and, you know, 
crying in the background. 

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We've never met her. 
Welcome to the show. 

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Some call Legendary upside only 
with Mike Shope on it. 

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ADP chasing May 6th, 2025. 
In Underdog Best Ball, ADP is 

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set by two separate yet equally 
important groups. 

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Streamers that set the market 
and the slappies that chase it. 

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These are their stories. 
You guys can't say I don't 

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consume your content. 
True. 

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That's true. 
Yeah. 

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Although we're consumed, the 
people have met Vivian many 

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times. 
So you're not consuming at all. 

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You're not a completionist, 
clearly. 

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Have they all right? 
I missed. 

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I missed those. 
Plural episodes. 

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There's times where like it's 
more like I've got a, you can't 

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take care of her for a second. 
So I'm like, all right, you're 

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coming on stream. 
I know that was it last Friday, 

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whatever day it was last week on
your pod that you were almost 

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driven to drink a morning beer 
based on the conversation the 

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others were having. 
My question is, I mean, this has

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probably happened. 
Davis is not a drinker. 

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I don't know about Jacob, but 
maybe Pat, like you wake up the 

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the next morning, maybe it's a 
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beer or I'm more of like wine 
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Like there's a drink that's 
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the night before on the table 
and like what do you do with it?

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Are you guys dump it or down it?
It depends on scenario. 

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Like if I'm safely in the 
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that's going to be, it's going 
to be a dump. 

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If it's like, if it's like a 
brown liquor situation, if 

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that's like whiskey fest Scotch,
I think like honestly, I'm 

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probably pouring that back into 
the bottle. 

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It's just straight. 
If it's neat, I got to 

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acknowledge that. 
I didn't expect that. 

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Subscribe Subscribe to Thinking 
about Thinking so Jacob doesn't 

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have to recycle brown liquor 
anymore. 

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I did not have porridge back 
into the bottle. 

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On the rock. 
On the rocks, no. 

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But me, you can absolutely. 
You can absolutely make it work.

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If you're like having weekend 
with the boys, you just got to 

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drink it. 
You're just getting started. 

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Sure that that's a different 
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If you're like, what was the 
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Is the plan to like go back out?
Were you about to do someday 

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drinking? 
Like OK. 36 holes. 

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By and large, I've never been a 
big hair of the dog guy, which I

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feel like it works right, but 
it's just I there's something 

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about it when you wake up and 
you're like the pain that I'm 

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feeling, it's caused by that. 
I'm not putting. 

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It in me, you know. 
I never thought about pouring it

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back in. 
Sometimes, you know, you might 

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hide it in a section of the 
house where you know, just I'm 

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saving that for later or, you 
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course, of course, is a a move. 
That feels, that feels more 

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logical than pouring it back in 
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What are you taking it in the 
sand? 

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It's just walking around the 
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Just put it you know. 
Put it where you know it it 

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belongs. 
Put it where it belongs. 

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If I sometimes sometimes I'll 
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instead of 1 and I won't finish 
the second one that just goes in

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the refrigerator. 
I'll drink it the next I'll. 

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Drink it. 
Wait, that's carbonated? 

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You drinking flat Coke the next 
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It's gross. 
That's grosser than what Jacob 

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said. 
Waste not. 

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Waste not, want not. 
That's all I. 

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Was waste. 
There there are only there. 

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Is a waste. 
That's a waste of your time. 

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There are only. 
Soft policy. 

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It's not, it's not sunk. 
I'm fine with it. 

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I just my body. 
That is the that is the still 

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drafting Kyle Pitts in 2020. 
Five of freaking, and I'm still 

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doing that, too. 
I'm all the way back in, Zach 

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Robinson said. 
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that he needs to work on his 
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his knowledge of the playbook, 
his relationship with the 

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quarterback. 
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season from Kyle Pitts. 
That's me with the flat Diet 

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Coke. 14 hours. 
Your, your, your, your Diet Coke

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is an 11th round pick. 
It's a $2.00, you know, 2 liter 

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Jacobs Glenn Livett is a $60.00 
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Of course he's not going to just
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So, you know, it's, that's a 
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You got to put that somewhere. 
Here's what you guys are not 

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understanding. 
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shopping, I would say like 8020.
She's kind of in charge of it 

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and she does not buy soda at 
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OK, so this is like a treat. 
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treat, but it's like if I run 
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week 'cause I'm not going to go 
to the store just. 

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The bubbles are the it's not the
coke anymore. 

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Once the bubbles are gone, it's 
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chemicals in it. 
It's just aspartame, really. 

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It's just brown. 
It's just brown aspartame. 

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I mean, I'm not saying, I'm not 
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telling you that does happen. 
What do you what, how do you 

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consume it? 
Like are you you just pop it in 

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the morning and like like a cup 
of coffee you're drinking or are

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you? 
Drinking. 

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No, I'll, I'll have it like when
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rice for like if I had one in 
the fridge after this. 

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I see after we do this wool 
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microwave my dinner, put my 
dinner, you know, or my lunch or

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whatever. 
And just, you know, I got 3 or 4

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sips there. 
Great, great lunch here. 

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For the Simpson flat Diet Coke, 
so good. 

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I'd like to I mean risk 
withstanding, but have a sort of

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a a duel between drinking and or
pat drinking that flat Diet Coke

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from the day before versus Davis
drinking the Scotch and like 

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whose fate more contorted while 
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face I would have to make 
drinking that quote. 

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Pat, remove the scrolling. 
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I'm called. 
Best ball breakfast? 

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You don't think I'm trying 
brother? 

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This this is a very non 
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far. 
Well, I do want to say 1. 

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Their content. 
One more thing about one more 

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thing about the show on 
legendary upside was I've never,

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I felt like related to Davis 
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that show. 
He was questioned about his you 

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guys questioned him about his 
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early in the show, you're like, 
you would actually wait, you 

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would actually on the clock. 
You would actually make this 

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pick. 
Was it sequel? 

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I think we asserted that he was 
lying. 

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OK, I think we. 
I think we just, and I and I 

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admitted it. 
I admitted it immediately. 

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But as Shope is about to say, he
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between knowing what is right 
and knowing what you would do. 

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Yes, like what is? 
Right, pouring out the Diet 

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Coke. 
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bringing the Diet Coke to the 
power of the bridge. 

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These rankings are for normal, 
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I'm giving my professional 
advice in my case, Davis said. 

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I just can't help myself. 
And so yesterday in our in the 

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Deposit Kingdom discord, there 
was a question about a guy asked

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for advice in a Super Flex 
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picking between Cam Ward and 
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And he said, my only quarterback
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What would what should I do? 
And Steph Miller and a few 

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people came up, you know, they 
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take Ward. 
It's not egregious. 

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And I would be so like, I'm I, I
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would never, ever not draft a 
Hunter. 

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So, hi, Pete. 
Totally. 

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I I totally agree, Eddie. 
Had never been more locked in 

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than choke like for the audio 
listeners. 

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In the last 30 seconds, Pete 
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the stream, put us on a best 
ball breakfast background. 

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No, I did that. 
That's when Pete came in and was

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like, this is a mess. 
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are on alone, then Pete's on the
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We changed backgrounds like 6 
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Chop was just fucking. 
Rolling through I. 

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You're so locked in I'm actually
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Do you watch the video like I? 
Can't wait till. 

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I can't wait to watch it back. 
I can't wait to watch it back. 

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Self scout. 
Just looking at a blank screen, 

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how did you stay in the zone 
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You know, I got, I got 30 years 
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You know, Mike, that is there's 
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falls. 
Like if Ward ends up being like 

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an 8 year starter in all these 
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going to be one of the cheapest 
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of all time because people 
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Travis Hunter. 
Although to be fair, I have I 

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got I got Hunter at 15 last 
night in a a slappy league with 

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a bunch of other slappies and 
after I took him I got 3 trade 

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offers immediately. 
Like it just because people with

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Hunter, no one can help 
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drafts. 
People are just they're, they're

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falling over each other. 
Did you see the one that Fantasy

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Mojo posted the one rookie draft
for? 

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It was a $100 league and Hunter 
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Jonathan Brooks. 
Well, the FFPC is a lawless it's

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the FFPC is a lawless man where 
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The FFPC you have to cut down to
14 players. 

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Yeah, 16, I think, yeah. 
Well, two of them have to keep 

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their own defense. 
So it's, it's really 14 and then

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you draft the veterans back. 
So I have like a league that is 

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like, I'm this team's been good 
for a while. 

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I have, I drafted Jaden Higgins 
on it now, but I had 4 receivers

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and it's the best. 
It's a, it's a best, it's A1 

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quarterback, best ball dynasty 
league. 

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And I had four receivers. 
So people draft the veterans. 

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It's also, it's like, I mean, 
it's like a hybrid between a 

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keeper and a dynasty league. 
I would say like in terms of the

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the strategy, like it's, it's 
much more focused on like 

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needing to win now and what is 
like what people trade for is 

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like way more win now or 
immediate production focus, I 

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should say. 
So it's still weird, but it's 

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like not, it's not like a super 
flex dynasty league or 

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something. 
Just kind of neither here nor 

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there, but maybe this relates to
our conversation. 

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I took Geno Smith over Jackson 
Dart at the 2.2 in a FFPC. 

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In Italy, that's you and me. 
Yeah, because my team is I have 

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Genti, I have Bijon, I have 
neighbors, I have Worthy, I have

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Sam LaPorte like it's ready to 
win now. 

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And I just said I'm taking I'm 
taking the 18 months of Geno 

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Smith production. 
I'm, I'm also very bullish on 

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the Raiders, I think relative to
the. 

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Market as well, for sure, yeah. 
I am as well, yeah. 

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OK, all right. 
There we go. 

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It's allowed my. 
Favorite basketball mania team 

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has has Genti and Bowers on it. 
Are you like, are you like Liam?

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Do you go back and like look at 
your teams and be like, wow, 

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dude, look at the six. 
I don't mean. 

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This team. 
No sacrilegious was was like 

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looking at some of our teams and
had highlighted that one. 

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I was like, that team is sick 
so. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Two kinds of people. 

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How many how many rookie drafts 
in is everyone? 

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I I think I'm in 13 rookie 
drafts right now. 

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How many, how many you guys in? 
Like really currently or 

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including ones that are 
finished? 

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Including ones that are 
finished. 

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I'm 1617, about the same. 
Yeah, I cut down my dynasty. 

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I have three that are supposed 
to start soon but haven't yet. 

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But I'm only in I think like 8 
or 9 leagues now. 

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I think I got it under 10. 
Jacob 63 a real number. 

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It's it. 
It sounded like a. 

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Real number right now, so 
including ones that are finished

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and currently going. 
I'm I'm in 44 but I still have 

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another 25 ish that have yet to 
start. 

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You could tell. 
You could tell Jacob is the 

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unmarried member of this of this
cast. 

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Do you actually think it would 
be harder for you, Jacob? 

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To do like being in 70 dynasty 
leagues is one of those things 

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where it's really hard to know 
like whether you're in 70 

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dynasty leagues because you're 
unmarried or whether you're 

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unmarried because. 
You're in 70 dynasty. 

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Leagues. 
It's like you can't really 

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uncouple those two facts. 
David, do you think it's 

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actually easier to be in that 
many leagues? 

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Like at a certain point do you 
do you get like is there? 

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Like how? 
Like how kind of. 

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What particular way Easier in 
some ways, for sure, Like easier

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in ways that like I don't care 
when I trade away a player that 

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I really like. 
Like it's like very easy to just

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be like, oh, I like this player,
but I like this offer more and 

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that's fine because I still have
like 14 other shares of this 

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guy, right? 
That's harder on Sunday morning 

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when you've like been out at 
like an EDM show until 3:00 and 

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then you like you're on Pacific 
Time. 

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So like. 
A Danger 30. 10 and then you 

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have to set your alarm for like 
7 and set 70 dynasty lineups in 

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in the morning. 
And before you get the dynasty 

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line set, you gotta pour back 
all the liquor into the bottles.

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Plus, Minnesota and Jacksonville
are playing in London. 

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What in the morning? 
4:00 in the morning. 

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Right, yeah, the Oh my God, 
there's nothing. 

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The London Games are, are like a
direct attack on my interests. 

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Like there's, there's just, 
there's nothing worse than like 

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when you have there's like a guy
that's questionable on a London 

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game and I've got to set my 
alarm for like 545 and then 

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check every single line up to be
like, do I have Alvin Kamara on 

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this team? 
So I have Alvin Kamara on this. 

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Team wait, in that situation, 
are you just, are you fully 

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setting the line up and going 
back to bed or you you're just 

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handling that situation then 
setting a new alarm? 

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It it really depends on on the 
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pretty heavily on the previous 
night's game plan. 

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Yeah, that makes sense. 
That makes. 

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Sense I was in, I was in Maui 
for my 50th birthday on a Sunday

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and getting up. 
I mean, it's if it's once in 

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your lifetime, it's OK, but 
getting up in the middle of the 

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night, you, you step out onto 
the patio, you hear the ocean 

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waves, you know, just all 
happening and it's not laid out 

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yet. 
And just setting line UPS in 

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that moment was spectacular. 
Having to do that every week. 

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No, just once in my I turned, I 
just turned 50. 

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I'm, I'm doing this, this is the
first thing I'm doing on my 

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birthday. 
OK, but not every week. 

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That sounds tough, but we love 
it. 

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That's why we're here. 
We do love it. 

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We do love it. 
Risers and fallers as we are now

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another week away from the 
draft. 

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There he is. 
DeAndre Swift right up top. 

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RJ Harvey. 
Makes sense. 

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They all do. 
Travis Hunter. 

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Brian Robinson. 
Also Washington, you know, 

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Robinson dodged the running back
ad in the draft. 

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Jaden Blue in Dallas, Ashton 
Gente another tick up in the 

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first round and Jack Besh. 
Swift, I, I'm wondering from you

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guys, how sure are we that 
there's no significant movement 

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left? 
I mean, it's still 4, almost 

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four months away, three months 
away rather from training camp. 

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How much is still to happen? 
I, I don't think that much, I 

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mean, JK Dobbins, yeah, JK 
Dobbins is is, you know, 

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probably going to sign 
somewhere. 

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But if we now know that he could
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so I don't know. 
I mean, he just hasn't had much 

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of A mark. 
It's weird he hasn't signed 

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already. 
He would make a lot of sense to 

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me. 
Like he's the type of back that 

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I think he's he's got to be 
better than Kyle Minung guy. 

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So why wouldn't the the bears 
bring him in? 

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But there's kind of a deadline 
to that, right? 

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I forget the exact date, but at 
certain point he reverts back to

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being on. 
Like mid to late June. 

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Yeah. 
So they're not it's not like he 

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can go through training camp and
they like they're like, oh, we 

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need a running back. 
And you know, Dobbins is still 

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hanging out there. 
So that's kind of unfortunate 

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because obviously the Chargers, 
he's not going to have the role 

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he had last year anything close.
And then at that point you're 

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looking at Chubb. 
But I think Chubb is done. 

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I mean, he might retire. 
Like it's just so I don't. 

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I like he could sign on the 
bears and I'm not sure I would. 

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He's definitely signing with the
Ravens, right Chubb? 

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Chubb. 
There's never been a more Ravens

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signing than than 30 year old 
Nick could, Yeah. 

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And then now you're talking 
about trades and I, I, I don't 

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know. 
I mean, I know people toss 

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around some like names like ETN,
but I I don't think that's 

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happening. 
Swift, I think, has not risen 

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enough. 
Yeah, I mean. 

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No, I'm maybe 3 deals. 
You guys. 

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You guys just saw Jacob's face. 
Jacob. 

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Jacob knows I'm. 
Right. 

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Yeah, I'll just take. 
I'll. 

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No, I don't. 
No, no, thank you. 

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I'll I'll just take Roshan and 
I'll take over this side. 

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That was I think should be. 
Higher, you know, Diet Coke 

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face, I think. 
You guys have fun with that? 

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Who are they? 
Who are they? 

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Who are they signing where 
you're like, yeah dude, shit, 

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it's over. 
JK Dobbins they could trade for 

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Breeze Hall they could. 
Trade for pop quiz. 

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Yeah, I guess Breeze Hall is 
tough guy, potentially an 

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option, but they then who's 
their running back like I don't 

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know. 
Braylon Allen. 

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Most. 
Most. 

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Yards. 
Mentioned DeAndre Swift's 

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career. 
What year? 

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Probably his second year. 
Last year. 

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Last year, yeah. 
I was wondering if it was last 

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year or the the year with the 
Eagles. 

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We all, we all hate him. 
We all think he stinks. 

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We're all like Ben Johnson. 
I just. 

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Here's what I'm. 
Doing here's what I'm doing with

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the the bears this year. 
I'm closing my eyes and I'm just

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clicking the buy button on all 
of them. 

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Caleb more even even I mean more
in Rome. 

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I have ranked below ADP right 
now, but they're trending 

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towards where I have them ranked
And then when they get there, 

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I'll be taking them burden 
Loveland. 

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I'll take round 18, Commet I I I
am just buying Ben Johnson and 

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the Chicago Bears. 
Love it. 

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How? 
Yeah, I mean that I think that 

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there's gonna be some real pain 
in this. 

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A lot. 
Of Caleb. 

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Just actually. 
Targets go. 

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I refuse to believe it. 
I'm not saying I think that's 

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the most likely scenario, but 
it's it's like a scenario that 

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is not getting a lot. 
Of that that that sign doesn't 

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bother me because I can't read 
Jacob. 

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Well, the thing with Swift is 
that you're not going. 

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So the issue with like Moore and
and Rome Burden is that like 

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they're all expensive and then 
you're competing. 

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They're competing with each 
other for targets and with 

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Loveland, who's also pretty 
expensive. 

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And then Caleb's, you know, 
fairly expensive as well. 

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He's not like horribly priced, 
but you're, you're talking about

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guys like you could complete 
this mega stack all within the 

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1st 10 rounds. 
It's a lot to pay. 

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Swift is the one guy where 
you're actually looking at like 

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opportunity. 
And I do think he allows you to 

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do other stuff. 
You know, like when I have 

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Swift, I'm not like tacking on 
Javonte Williams. 

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I'm I'm tacking on Bashal 
Tooten. 

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Or Cam scataboo or, you know, 
whatever. 

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Like I'm I'm not going room 
Andre. 

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I'm going with like a, you know,
upside type of running back 

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swing. 
So I don't really mind taking 

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him. 
Obviously I don't like enjoy the

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click, but he allows me to do 
things that I want to do is kind

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of how I'm looking at it. 
And he's the one piece of this 

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offense where you're not worried
about a bunch of cannibalization

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effects. 
I mean, even Roshan getting more

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work wouldn't like Roshan has 
been bad. 

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He he's not like very likely to 
completely displace swift, you 

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know, who's got the pass 
catching role and is much more 

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explosive than Roshan. 
So this isn't like crazy low at 

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this point, but he was, you 
know, a target very clearly 

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before and I still think, you 
know, I'm probably a little 

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underpriced. 
Maybe you could this point you 

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could say, well, the risk is not
priced in. 

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So I would I'd be fine. 
Like it's similar price to last 

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year. 
And I was actually had a market 

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on Swift last year, but part of 
that was like, I was, well, I 

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don't like this player at all, 
But like the Bears do because 

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they just invested in him under 
this regime. 

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And so at worst, he's going to 
get fed with touches for, you 

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know, half the season before. 
Maybe they they change something

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and and maybe they never will. 
But this year it's like I'm 

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paying the same price. 
And I understand he he piled up 

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yards. 
He stayed healthy last year, but

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he wasn't good. 
And now it's a new regime and 

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they have other playmakers. 
There's still a long offseason 

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laugh, like maybe if he gets to 
if he survives to August, they 

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don't bring it any other back. 
He's still 83. 

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I I get it. 
He won't be though that that's 

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part of it like but I. 
But I don't. 

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But he was. 
He was this price last year. 

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Why would he be more expensive 
this year than last year? 

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That doesn't make any sense to 
me. 

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Ben Johnson, but but Ben. 
Johnson are more expensive, 

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positive for Swift. 
Ben Johnson hates Swift Well. 

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But why did? 
He hate him if he if he. 

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Hate him, but he didn't fall 
through on that. 

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Hate, yeah, you know, if he if 
he hated him so far. 

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They got four months to go. 
I mean, here they brought in 

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Jamal. 
They poured the hate back in the

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bottle. 
He poured hate back in the 

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bottle. 
That's right, he's saving it. 

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What does it do for you knowing 
they brought in Jamal Williams 

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for a workout? 
It it affirms exactly what I 

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think. 
Well. 

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Did they bring in Jamal? 
Is that real? 

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They did draft a running back in
round seven, like they they had 

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picks all over the draft. 
They they could have. 

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Why didn't they pick one? 
Like doesn't what? 

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What does that tell you? 
They did pick one ultimately 

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Monongai from Rutgers in the 
seventh round, who, as I showed 

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Davis the league were in 
together. 

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He went two O 7 in a rookie 
draft were together. 

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I don't know, like, is that 
something? 

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I mean, he, he's a, he looks 
like a big time plotter by the 

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numbers. 
He he looks like he looks like 

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old Jamal Williams at 22. 
Hang on. 

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OK. 
No, I, I would look, there's a, 

449
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,240
there's a few seventh round 
running backs that if they had 

450
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,200
drafted I I would be like 
totally willing to. 

451
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,680
Keep Martinez. 
If, if, if Ollie Gordon Ollie 7 

452
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,240
was a bear, there would be 
nothing stopping me. 

453
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,040
If they had done round 7, 
Rashard Smith. 

454
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:17,960
If they done round seven, Damian
Martinez, they attend round 7 to

455
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,160
Corey Krosky, Merritt even. 
Yeah, I could like I could get 

456
00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,000
there. 
Mananga is is one of the less 

457
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,080
threatening round seven options 
for sure. 

458
00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,680
Yeah, that's how I feel too. 
Yes, but I even would get it on 

459
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,560
Ollie Gordon 5. 
Ollie Gordon, I'd be down, dude.

460
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,920
I honestly would be. 
I would be taking Ollie Gordon 

461
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,360
now if I knew he was like for 
sure the number two there. 

462
00:23:38,600 --> 00:23:40,080
So what do we think their plan 
is? 

463
00:23:42,120 --> 00:23:43,880
Throw the ball. 
I mean, I think that their plan 

464
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:48,560
was to draft Ashton Genti. 
I think that the plan probably 

465
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,360
was also to trap Trevi on 
Anderson. 

466
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:54,200
I agree. 
And then I think that they, they

467
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,560
just had to now they're, they're
probably just going to try to 

468
00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:57,800
figure out their plan on the 
fly. 

469
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,280
There there. 
Could be a running back cut. 

470
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,320
I mean maybe there won't be 
trades Pat, but there are these 

471
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:09,440
veterans that are kind of stuck 
like I that's what I'm asking 

472
00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,040
the original question. 
Well, ETN, but about the bears 

473
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:14,440
like you're. 
Not going to cut ETN. 

474
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:17,280
So some of the some of these 
guys you can't really cut 

475
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,560
because it's just too expensive.
I mean, they might cut like you 

476
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:25,840
can cut like Kareem Hunt might 
get cut or Eli Mitchell maybe, 

477
00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:32,880
but I don't think you'd be it's.
Like the that I think probably 

478
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:37,440
will get cut. 
You don't want to be in in May 

479
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,440
and still be like working on 
your roster. 

480
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:41,800
This is not like a great, great 
spot. 

481
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,320
And I think I mean, I kind of 
will give the Bears credit if 

482
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:47,280
they did get sniped on some of 
these running backs and didn't 

483
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:48,920
have another running back they 
really liked. 

484
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,480
They spent a seventh round pick 
on like kind of a grinder type. 

485
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:56,000
That is like the thing that 
Swift is worst at. 

486
00:24:56,000 --> 00:25:00,880
Like if you need 2 1/2 yards, 
you know, Swift is the last back

487
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,840
I'd want to put out there. 
So you give yourself another out

488
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,920
with with Roshan and and Manon 
guy of maybe finding a guy who 

489
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,360
can grind out short yardage 
stuff. 

490
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:13,240
But swift isn't like a disaster.
I've I've been out on swift for 

491
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:17,840
a number of years now, you know,
but he's I just don't. 

492
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,480
I'm like the thing one of the 
things I regret about how I 

493
00:25:20,480 --> 00:25:23,600
approached last year is I'm like
I there were these backs where 

494
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:27,480
I'm like, yes, someone else will
come along and it just they just

495
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,880
won't matter. 
And they like they did matter. 

496
00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:34,080
And even with Camara getting 
hurt and stuff and not matter at

497
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,880
the end of the season, if you 
get enough weeks of a guy 

498
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,400
mattering in best ball it does 
help you a lot more than in 

499
00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:44,080
redraft. 
Swift to 2024 Camara. 

500
00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,680
I like that. 
I like that comparison a lot. 

501
00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,320
It's like that. 
He might be, he might be dusted 

502
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:56,240
by week 14, but if he gives you 
a bunch of 13 point games, 124 

503
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:01,600
pointer, 118 pointer, then yeah,
he all of a sudden he's a 27% 

504
00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,400
advance rate piece. 
And and the things like advance 

505
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:08,440
rate pieces is that I feel like,
you know, sometimes, you know, 

506
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,200
it's an advance rate piece like 
I'm building to win, you know, 

507
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,160
but it's like, well, they're 
like if these are pieces, if 

508
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,160
these are like, you know, game 
pieces and you put an advance 

509
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,360
rate piece and then surround it 
with a bunch of back weighted 

510
00:26:20,360 --> 00:26:23,840
production and swift literally 
advances a team that would not 

511
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,840
have advanced without him. 
And now you're cooking in the 

512
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,440
playoffs. 
Like, that's an effective 

513
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:32,080
grouping of players, you know, 
so that's what I'm talking about

514
00:26:32,080 --> 00:26:34,520
where I think, like, Swift is 
helping me put together a 

515
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:37,560
running backroom that I think 
actually works. 

516
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,320
You know, even if he's not a 
particularly exciting click, 

517
00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,760
this price is much more in line 
with, like, what makes sense. 

518
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:47,040
But yeah, this, this rise has 
been warranted. 

519
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,600
He's 15 picks cheaper than James
Conner. 

520
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:53,320
Yeah, way back from James. 
Conner. 

521
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,080
I'd right, I'd rather have James
Conner as well, but they're 

522
00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:02,520
they're week 1. 
You, you pull up your, your DFS 

523
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,720
projector of choice in week one,
Week 2 DeAndre. 

524
00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:12,080
So it's probably going to be 
projected for similar more half 

525
00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:16,040
PPR points than James Conner. 
I don't know what the chat says 

526
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:19,840
and how you feel, Pat, but I'm 
sensing Davis and Jacob could 

527
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,080
throw down today. 
I don't know if. 

528
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:25,120
They all, they all, everyone in 
the chat hates DNR Swift. 

529
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,880
They all what? 
Can can We might need Davis to 

530
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:30,920
explain this. 
What does this mean? 

531
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,000
Basically it means like you are 
absolutely guaranteed to lose 

532
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,640
value on this. 
That that there are the, the the

533
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,120
price is going to fall through 
the floor. 

534
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:43,720
You're not going to get return. 
You could talk yourself into it 

535
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:48,480
at the moment, but the market is
going to change the price on you

536
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,360
rapidly. 
That's what I don't agree with. 

537
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:55,160
I mean, I think taking Swift 
could absolutely fail. 

538
00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,720
It's like a risky bet on veteran
production. 

539
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,200
He's a classic dead zone back. 
It's just that you don't. 

540
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,480
You're taking him with pick 83. 
The dead zone, the dead zone, 

541
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,120
the Overton window of the dead 
zone has really shifted. 

542
00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,520
The dead zone is now the 7th and
eighth round instead of the 

543
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,760
third and fourth round. 
But the dead zone works because 

544
00:28:12,760 --> 00:28:15,280
it's like you're taking guys 
without upside, You're taking 

545
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,760
like guaranteed touches that 
actually aren't guaranteed. 

546
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:21,360
And you're passing on huge 
breakout bats at at wide 

547
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:23,880
receiver or the chance to get an
elite tight end or some of the 

548
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,880
best quarterbacks on the board 
when you come down here into the

549
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,640
80s. 
And those types of players 

550
00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:30,200
aren't available as opportunity 
cost. 

551
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,560
I do. 
I do just want to make. 

552
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,840
Like a great profile? 
Guys right behind Swift. 

553
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,040
So like you guys. 
You guys like Swift demonstrably

554
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:42,000
more than like Aaron Jones, 
Brian Robinson, Isaiah Pacheco 

555
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,520
right behind him. 
No, but I don't want to have 

556
00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:47,160
more than, I don't want to have 
more than 10% of any. 

557
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,600
Of those guys, I think they're 
all for all three of the ones 

558
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,080
behind him to Swift. 
Because I, I don't, I think, I 

559
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,600
think Jones is just as sort of 
dusted as as Swift at this 

560
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,200
point. 
He looked, he looked pretty 

561
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,320
washed last year. 
I think Mason could could could 

562
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,440
be a real. 
Problem 3030 years old, 

563
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,360
hamstring injury. 
I prefer Mason to Aaron Jones. 

564
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:09,520
Obviously, if you could 
guarantee me Aaron Jones doesn't

565
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,800
injure his quadriceps muscle 
then I would be higher on him, 

566
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,400
but you can offer me no such 
assurances. 

567
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,480
Not on the list, but it's come 
up on the show. 

568
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,720
We had that game that Pat 
whipped up about guys that might

569
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,560
get, you know, quashed in the in
the draft. 

570
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,120
Tony Pollard. 
That didn't happen either. 

571
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:32,400
Huge win, huge win for Pollard, 
'cause I'm not a, you know, the 

572
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:35,360
other thing we talk about the 
black marble for old guys, we 

573
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:39,280
also have the Taje Spears black 
marble, no knee cartilage season

574
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,200
at some point. 
No ACL. 

575
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,880
No ACL, Yeah, yeah. 
Well, I mean, who knows about 

576
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:46,160
the cartilage? 
He might not have that either, 

577
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,400
but he literally he won't. 
He won't directly answer the 

578
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:53,040
question, but he's not denying 
that he doesn't have an ACL. 

579
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,080
Well, you know Pat, do you know 
who their third running back is?

580
00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,280
Oh, is it Kyle Mullins? 
It's your boy. 

581
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,000
It's your boy. 
Kyle Mullins. 

582
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:06,520
Yeah, I no Pollard. 
Pollard is a huge win. 

583
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:10,840
This whole tier of running 
backs, I think is there one of 

584
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,360
these guys is going to be like 
the way we talked about Kamara 

585
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,960
last year or or maybe like, I 
don't know who is a really Brian

586
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,360
Robinson junior, like Brian 
Robinson junior. 

587
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:26,280
Pacheco, Swift, Aaron Jones, 
Tony Pollard, these guys are all

588
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,360
like super cromulent running 
back to Zahira running back 

589
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:33,640
build. 
To be clear, I'm also like not 

590
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:36,280
trying to like load up on Swift 
specifically. 

591
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:40,600
It's the it's backs in this 
range And look, we're coming out

592
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:45,040
of a period of the pre draft 
where I wasn't touching like any

593
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,480
of these backs. 
Like there's just no way I'm 

594
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,480
taking DeAndre Swift, who the 
Bears could easily take Genti or

595
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,720
something like that. 
Like actually like he had, he 

596
00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:55,880
ended up falling so late. 
I kind of did end up taking him 

597
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,480
some of the one 20s, but I just 
wouldn't have touched him and 

598
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:00,680
didn't touch him anytime. 
You know, he was more expensive.

599
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,640
Tracy, you know, from Andre, I 
took sparingly. 

600
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,560
Warren I took a lot less than I 
would have liked to because I 

601
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,120
was, you know, the Caleb Johnson
outcome was was pretty obvious. 

602
00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:20,400
So there's like these backs I 
was not into, but now, you know,

603
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:24,200
things have changed a lot and 
I'm actually trying to trying to

604
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,080
target these guys in part 
because I'm like, maybe I have 

605
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:29,080
some leftover fade bias, you 
know, from the pre draft period 

606
00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:30,400
of like you can't touch these 
guys. 

607
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:35,040
I was like, no, actually 
Pollard, I mean, he he looks 

608
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:40,240
like a very, you know, solid 
kind of low end RB1, high end 

609
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,640
RB2 type of bet. 
You know, if he's chugging along

610
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:49,360
and and Cam Ward's good again, 
it's not like when I'm building 

611
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,040
my team around, but he's like, 
I'm like, OK, I have Pollard 

612
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,760
holding down a running back spot
early in the season that allows 

613
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,400
me to to do things I actually 
want to do more. 

614
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:03,360
You could just draft George 
Pickens instead, then these 

615
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,840
running backs, or at least for 
the last couple of months. 

616
00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,480
Or different Jaden Reed, 
different receivers who go 

617
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:10,200
around the same. 
Yeah. 

618
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,080
I I get the feeling on the 
running backs of the receivers 

619
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:16,600
are tough for me in this range. 
Like there's there's a similar 

620
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:18,840
to last year and every year 
there's like a a real or 

621
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:23,760
perceived teardrop. 
Like it's honestly after like 

622
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:28,440
Jennings Judy in the mid 60s, it
gets to be like quite rough. 

623
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,200
Pickens I'm fine with in the mid
Pickens I like a lot. 

624
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:35,480
I like I like that click for 
sure. 

625
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:43,440
I'm open ish to Pearsall and 
Reed but it's not doesn't feel 

626
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,600
great. 
Can't say it feels great after 

627
00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:48,080
that I I really struggle with 
any all these wider super 

628
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,560
prices. 
So I I definitely get the the 

629
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,440
appeal of of running backs. 
I'm kind of smaller getting 

630
00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:54,320
that. 
Than what you guys are staying 

631
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:55,760
with him than I am with Swift 
for sure. 

632
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:57,280
Sure. 
Yeah. 

633
00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,200
I mean the The thing is like, 
you know, last year, right? 

634
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,840
Mostly because I just think 
there's a good chance that 

635
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:04,920
Swift's ADP is like still 140 by
August because I I still think 

636
00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:07,120
they're, they're pretty live to 
make a significant move. 

637
00:33:08,040 --> 00:33:10,040
What would that move be in your 
mind, Dobbins? 

638
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,960
Sign Dobbins trade for ETN, 
trade for Hall OK. 

639
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,760
What about Brian Robinson? 
Like AI would give it like a not

640
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,040
a not over 50% chance to happen 
or anything like that. 

641
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,000
But I I don't think it's like a 
tiny outcome. 

642
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,880
Yeah, that really it all goes. 
It spins back to the question 

643
00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,040
like what, what is the plan? 
What did they want? 

644
00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:35,520
We talked last week and I think 
you guys mostly agree that they 

645
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:38,800
were the Browns trade away from 
trading up for Genti OR. 

646
00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:41,440
Trade for Walker. 
They could trade for Walker. 

647
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,640
They could do that. 
They were the betting favorite 

648
00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,200
halfway through the day that 
Thursday of Thursday night of 

649
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,680
round one to draft Genti. 
It was like expected that they 

650
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:52,960
would do that. 
And then the Jaguars went the 

651
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:54,600
other way. 
So what did they do instead? 

652
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,320
They just punted it. 
They traded with Buffalo move 

653
00:33:57,480 --> 00:33:59,320
moved down, just did different 
things. 

654
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,320
And then ultimately the running 
back in round 7. 

655
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,040
How does how does Brian Robinson
compare here? 

656
00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:09,000
Another like a exciting offense.
Super in on Brian Robinson yeah 

657
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,159
that that I get to be positive 
about surprised he survived. 

658
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,880
But part part of the idea of why
I think you don't click him 

659
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,320
previously is like, even if he 
survives, how much more 

660
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,480
expensive he's gonna get turns 
out not quite 2 rounds. 

661
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,360
So I I think you're yeah. 
Now at this point, I mean, I was

662
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,360
super into B Rob last year 
without knowing how good Jayden 

663
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,679
Daniels is going to be. 
It's basically the same set up 

664
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:38,480
last year except about around 
more expensive with a lot more 

665
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,159
confidence in the offense. 
I'm yeah, very into Brian 

666
00:34:43,159 --> 00:34:45,480
Robinson. 
Man, you were going to learn the

667
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,280
name Jacori Kroski Merritt so 
hard about week 9. 

668
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:52,159
Probably not. 
This was no Probably. 

669
00:34:52,159 --> 00:34:54,199
Not he's this year. 
Chris, Rod, where you guys? 

670
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:58,600
I'm wishing it what what's 
happened to what's what about 

671
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,400
Mick Weapon, Right the year, the
year, a breakout for Mick 

672
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:04,960
Weapon. 
The the thing with Robinson 

673
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:10,160
Robinson really the end of last 
season makes me nervous where we

674
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:15,480
saw a bunch of Echler actually 
they they were bringing in yeah,

675
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,160
Mick weapon and then like Chris 
Rodriguez got some run. 

676
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,000
It was like this real committee 
and. 

677
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:23,880
He, he was real banged up. 
Brian Robinson, remember he he 

678
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,200
was like not practicing at all 
Wednesday. 

679
00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:28,280
Thursday, Friday, he was banged 
up. 

680
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:29,920
He was banged up. 
That's right. 

681
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:36,360
But I mean, yeah, he's maybe I'm
a maybe I'm holding that against

682
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:40,520
him too much. 
But with Robert, like, OK, 

683
00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:43,760
compared to like Swift or 
Pollard, we've actually seen 

684
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,720
both those guys, Swift and 
Pollard for for multiple 

685
00:35:47,720 --> 00:35:50,640
seasons. 
Be kind of like, well, we don't 

686
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:54,000
have anyone else. 
And this guy can like be the 

687
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:55,720
backfield. 
The the Swift did this with the 

688
00:35:55,720 --> 00:35:59,800
Eagles to do this with the Bears
last year, Pollard, his his 

689
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,280
awful year with the Cowboys. 
It was gross because we took him

690
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,000
in the second round. 
He's still the whole backfield. 

691
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:08,600
And then, you know, last year he
was kind of the backfield. 

692
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:12,880
So I feel comfortable to an 
extent. 

693
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,320
You know, all this stuff is, is 
somewhat thin because we're 

694
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,120
talking about old veteran 
running backs are not very good.

695
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:20,600
But you know, there's there's at
least like a history of the team

696
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:25,720
feeling confident with the 
current players on the depth 

697
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,120
chart. 
Like, OK, let's just give it to 

698
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,320
this guy. 
Robinson. 

699
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:32,520
I I just don't, I just don't 
have as much confidence that 

700
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,960
that happens, that it seems like
they, you know, he's not, he's 

701
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:37,720
like part of a committee 
generally. 

702
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:42,000
But but maybe the maybe the end 
of the season is weighing too 

703
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,280
heavily in my mind. 
I don't know. 

704
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,680
I mean, I think, yeah, he's not 
going to, he's not going to be 

705
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,360
like an 80% touch rate guy or 
whatever. 

706
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:53,320
But at least I'm, I guess I just
see a narrower range of outcomes

707
00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:55,000
for this one. 
Like I'm, I'm reasonably 

708
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,920
confident that this is going to 
be their backfield. 

709
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:01,480
Robinson's going to have his 
role, probably Echoler, Mcweapon

710
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,200
or whoever else can have the 
other role. 

711
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,480
And if like we're staying at the
point of these picks is, is 

712
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:09,200
safety. 
I'm, I'm reasonably confident 

713
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:12,600
that Robinson gives me that 
safety compared to Swift, where 

714
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,080
I agree the upside is higher, 
but I, I still see chances of an

715
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,600
addition. 
I, I wouldn't be that surprised 

716
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:21,360
if it's just Roshan's backfield.
I I I get more. 

717
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,480
Success. 
I'd be pretty surprised if 

718
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,280
Israel, but I guess the thing 
too, it's it's not that it's 

719
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:30,600
safety necessarily, it's that I 
think he hits my line up in the 

720
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,240
early season or what? 
What worries me about Robinson 

721
00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:37,280
is that I have Robinson all 
season but he like doesn't do 

722
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,080
much. 
Bunch of bunch of 11, Bunch of 

723
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:43,280
11 pointers, 11 carries for 44 
yards, 2 receptions for 16 

724
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:46,240
yards, and 50% of the time he 
scores a touchdown. 

725
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:50,680
Swift's game log is, you know, 
hopefully it's like 15, eight, 

726
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:56,160
11/22, you know, and then like 
Chuck along in the teens and 

727
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,040
then is done, but. 
Will definitely have a game with

728
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:04,000
11 carries for negative rushing 
yards at some point that that 

729
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,000
will that will. 
Definitely. 

730
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:07,160
That's a lock. 
That's a lock, yeah. 

731
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:11,280
Do you know Davis that Reggie 
Bush completed a full season 

732
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:14,240
with the Bills and finished in 
negative rushing yards? 

733
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,400
Actually, I did not know that. 
That is I Reggie Bush. 

734
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:22,880
Which means that I have more 
rushing yards in Bill's history 

735
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:28,080
than he, I think, right 0. 
That's pretty. 

736
00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:29,720
That's pretty impressive. 
Yeah, wow. 

737
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,480
Jayden Blue back to a rookie 
here. 

738
00:38:34,720 --> 00:38:35,760
Win now. 
Pretty good jump. 

739
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,160
Pocket milling. 
Jayden Blue, Yeah. 

740
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,200
I think I've drafted him in 
every single draft I've done. 

741
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:44,440
Where should he go in rookie? 
Like mid, mid second? 

742
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:45,280
Is that early? 
Yeah. 

743
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,800
No, no, no, no. 
Wait. 

744
00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:50,160
Second in dynasty drafts. 
I don't think he should be in 

745
00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:52,680
until the 3rd in in dynasty 
drafts because I don't think 

746
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,400
that he actually is much of a 
runner. 

747
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,600
I think he's A to me, he's a fun
player. 

748
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:01,040
I think he's like a Naheem Hines
type where I actually think he's

749
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,040
a legitimately good receiving 
back and you can give him like 6

750
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,120
to 8 carries a game and he'll 
he'll pop. 

751
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,600
But I think as soon as you start
giving him 15 carries, it's 

752
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:12,920
going to the diminishing returns
are going to hit like crazy with

753
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,560
him. 
And part of that is why Texas 

754
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,400
never really did it. 
But in this specific year, in 

755
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,880
this specific backfield, if the 
options are really fun player 

756
00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:29,760
with a ton of Jews who has a 
receiving role and maybe you 

757
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:34,200
could extend his rushing more 
than you want to or sub NFL 

758
00:39:34,200 --> 00:39:39,440
level dust balls, then like 
sure, I I could, I could see 

759
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,800
myself. 
I could see Jayden Blue having 

760
00:39:41,800 --> 00:39:43,640
like, I think Jayden Blue will 
have the best year of his NFL 

761
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,960
career of this year. 
This year. 

762
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:46,960
That's what I'm saying, yeah. 
I don't. 

763
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,800
I don't you. 
It was a very fun dynasty pick, 

764
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:50,840
but I'm windmilling in in best 
ball. 

765
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,160
Yep, that does make sense. 
I really didn't. 

766
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,560
Chris Thompson. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

767
00:39:56,760 --> 00:40:00,400
Yeah. 20/20/16 Chris Thompson 
700 scrimmage yards, 5 

768
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,720
touchdowns 2017 800 scrimmage 
yards, 6 touchdowns. 

769
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:08,840
Jaden Blue can RIP that off for 
sure. 800 scrimmage yards, 6 

770
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:10,880
touchdowns. 
Totally. 

771
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,880
We were talking about Kyron 
Williams Davis on Sun Pod and 

772
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,600
you mentioned how many pass 
blocking snaps he had. 

773
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,920
And I looked it up and yeah, I 
mean, you're, you're 100% 

774
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,160
correct. 
But the thing that jumped out to

775
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,960
me was actually #2 on the list 
was Javonte Williams with a 

776
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:34,200
pretty good pass blocking grade 
by PFF as well. 

777
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,640
I do like Williams is a guy 
wasn't touching at all. 

778
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,720
And I don't, and I think his 
price is now corrected to where 

779
00:40:41,720 --> 00:40:46,000
I'm not really touching him now.
But it does make me nervous a 

780
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:50,720
little bit for Blue where you 
have this guy who's like going 

781
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:54,600
to be able to do the Zeke stuff,
I think to be out there and pass

782
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:56,680
protect. 
Yeah, Javonte is Zeke. 

783
00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,240
Javonte is Zeke, Yeah. 
So that makes me a little like, 

784
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,760
I don't think blue. 
But but blue is Rico Dowdell, 

785
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,160
who's like, totally fine. 
He's not Rico Dowdell, though. 

786
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,160
Dowdell was like a like a true 
running back. 

787
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:11,360
Dowdell's a much bigger running 
back. 

788
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,080
Yeah, I mean, I don't, I don't 
think Jaden Blue is any good, 

789
00:41:15,080 --> 00:41:17,160
but in in this spot, it just 
doesn't matter. 

790
00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:20,800
I guess what I'm saying, I think
I think it's getting to a price 

791
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,840
where it's it does like this 
rise makes a lot of sense to me 

792
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,000
at this point. 
I'm not, I'm not do. 

793
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,480
You agree? 
Should be the first cowboy 

794
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,080
running back drafted. 
Yeah. 

795
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,720
I don't OK. 
Well. 

796
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,920
Then who should be Davis? 
You don't like it, I don't like 

797
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:40,960
it. 
All the all the slappies 

798
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:42,800
watching and listening to this. 
Don't like it, but it's 

799
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:44,960
definitely Javonte. 
It's probably should be. 

800
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,520
We can we can we book a bet 
right now? 

801
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,840
Javonte Jayden Blue half PPR 
points per game in in 

802
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:54,760
20/20/2025. 
It doesn't really. 

803
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,520
That doesn't work 'cause I don't
take Javonte and I do take Blue.

804
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,680
I think Blue's my most drafted 
player right now. 

805
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,520
As you said, as you said on the 
Dynasty show, why does the 

806
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:09,760
fictional rational actor never 
have the same decision making 

807
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:12,560
pathway as you? 
And yeah, the the the. 

808
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:14,760
Do you think other people should
make that bet with me? 

809
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:16,160
But you? 
Your cell phone accepted. 

810
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,000
I myself have I believe. 
I think I have I. 

811
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:22,560
Think I have 30I. 
Think I have 35% Jayden Blue 

812
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:27,040
right now and I bet I have like 
4 or 5% Javonte. 

813
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,600
No respect for Here's Phil 
Moffa. 

814
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,240
Well, Phil Moffa. 
'S a big boy, Phil Moffa. 

815
00:42:34,240 --> 00:42:37,800
Weighs 270. 5 for anyone who's 
not Javante Williams and Mile 

816
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:40,680
Sanders. 
Here's what I'll say about about

817
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:47,880
the blue Javante thing is that 
like if we get word that blue is

818
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:51,640
in line for the type of role 
that we expect him to be, then 

819
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:57,640
he's clearly the first back who 
should go in Dallas and you 

820
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:01,800
know, easily like 20 picks over 
or undervalued currently. 

821
00:43:02,240 --> 00:43:05,680
But I guess the thing that 
you're taking on with blue right

822
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,840
now is that like he's he's not 
that good of a prospect. 

823
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,280
He has a sort of a the case 
you're making Jacob, you know, 

824
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,000
he's not going to get a ton of 
touches like I'm hearing like 

825
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,080
not much upside, you know, like 
he's, he's a passing down back 

826
00:43:20,720 --> 00:43:23,040
on a team that has a really good
pass protector. 

827
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:25,760
So like how much work is he 
going to get even on 3rd downs? 

828
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,640
Are we talking about like a 
rotational explosion back? 

829
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,880
Who's getting like some swing 
passes on 2nd downs? 

830
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,760
You're literally you're 
literally talking about making 

831
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,000
Hines but getting 9 carries a 
game. 

832
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:37,760
Well, yeah, which is called 
Naeem Hines did a couple of 

833
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:40,000
years and then and then give me 
24 running back. 

834
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,680
Give me more assurance that he 
actually has that locked down 

835
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:44,640
because he didn't have a ton of 
draft capital. 

836
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:47,640
That's Hines didn't play third 
downs either and he got like 80 

837
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,320
targets. 
Sure, sure. 

838
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:52,640
It it would be. 
I mean different team. 

839
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:54,600
I think the I think the role if 
you're trying to do a Cowboys 

840
00:43:54,600 --> 00:44:00,840
metaphor, would be like what 
what was the year the year 

841
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,240
before he like fully broke onto 
the scene. 

842
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,120
But once it was like he was no 
longer just a pure backup Tony 

843
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,920
Pauler, like like what it was 
like, you know, he's not playing

844
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,240
third downs and he's not playing
goal line, but he's like getting

845
00:44:12,240 --> 00:44:15,520
a lot of fun touches and he has 
some like spike weeks mixed in. 

846
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:17,600
That's like probably what I 
expect for Jaden Boyd, like. 

847
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:23,960
Four years ago. 
Right, but that Pollard in his 

848
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,320
rookie season? 
He did have 455 years ago 

849
00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:31,680
basically didn't play other than
like when Zeke was out it was 

850
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,000
like. 
Kind of what I'm saying though, 

851
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,760
like we're talking about a fifth
round pick who's not a 

852
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:40,920
traditional running back. 
I would like a little bit more 

853
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:45,400
confidence, you know, from what 
I'm from like, like even in some

854
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,680
some mini camp buzz would be 
nice. 

855
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,840
Like we're just going to slot 
this guy into this like fairly 

856
00:44:50,840 --> 00:44:53,440
particular role that like not a 
lot of teams are using these 

857
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,840
days. 
Like it's very possible that 

858
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,280
he's just a backup and the and 
the correct answer is the gross 

859
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,240
starter, you know? 
Well then I just think there 

860
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:05,480
isn't an answer. 
Yeah, fair. 

861
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:08,160
I don't think Javante. 
I just like I there's no world 

862
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,680
for me in which Javante Williams
is is the answer. 

863
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,840
So I think it's like, to me, 
either blue is a good pick or 

864
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,920
the Cowboys have no running. 
You are, you are. 

865
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,360
You have slappy tunnel vision 
right now and. 

866
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,920
I, no, I, I've been the argument
that I got with the Zeke people 

867
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:22,320
last year. 
Like people were like, dude, 

868
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,440
Zeke's good to get. 
Like, no, get the fuck out of 

869
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,280
here. 
Javante Williams last year 

870
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:29,800
Javanteans last year had a 
workhorse role the entire year 

871
00:45:29,800 --> 00:45:35,080
and had zero value. 0 Yeah, I 
mean, I mean. 

872
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,280
Except that, Except that. 
There's not a world on this 

873
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:39,480
planet. 
Which Javad? 

874
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:42,080
Yeah, he had eight. 
He had 800 yards and four 

875
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,240
touchdowns last year. 
If you get 8. 100 and how many 

876
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:45,520
helpful basketball weeks did he 
have? 

877
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,560
Like 1. 
Two, I think. 

878
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,320
I think he had two. 
Did the one game against the 

879
00:45:49,320 --> 00:45:51,240
Saints, it was great. 
I loved that I had a lot of 

880
00:45:51,240 --> 00:45:53,480
them. 
He had the 1, he had the one 

881
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:59,000
game and and to be clear, I was 
like leading the charge on 

882
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,520
Javonte hate last year. 
He's staying. 

883
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,280
I was leading it on. 
Javonte Love. 

884
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:05,760
It was the worst experience of 
my life. 

885
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,640
It was horrible. 
Yeah, it. 

886
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,280
Was not fun. 
Every week I'd be like, oh good,

887
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,960
we're getting like a great role.
Oh, we had seven points on 8I. 

888
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:21,600
I am trying to I'm trying to be 
as Leone as possible and I let's

889
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:24,160
let's pull up let's pull up the 
the establish the run ranks, 

890
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:26,600
right. 
I mean, I'm gonna, yeah, I'm 

891
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,160
gonna, I'm gonna guess much. 
Worse than I. 

892
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:30,720
Thought may I just say I I 
cracked the beer. 

893
00:46:30,720 --> 00:46:31,760
I was waiting all the whole 
time. 

894
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,520
This is an NA by the way, 
because wait, maybe Davis 

895
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,760
throwing throwing down tough. 
Guy, you got it, you got it. 

896
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,080
You got to let it go. 
You got to let it go flat and 

897
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:41,640
then you'll understand. 
Yeah, it might taste the same. 

898
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:47,360
Our friends at I'm actually 
legitimately shocked right now. 

899
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:51,080
Our friends at established the 
run, Michael Leone and the data 

900
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:56,800
science team have Javonte 20 
spots after ADP, and they have 

901
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:59,360
Jaden Blue, also 20 spots after 
ADP. 

902
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,080
So. 
So I guess there's nothing to 

903
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,200
learn from our our nerd friends.
Yeah. 

904
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,280
Where's? 
Miles, because I'm like a little

905
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,120
bit into Miles Sanchez. 
Miles might be the answer. 

906
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:13,880
Honest to God because he's free.
I don't think that Javonte has 

907
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:15,160
to be a good part. 
Just because. 

908
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:19,400
He's the same bet. 
Honestly he might be like way 

909
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:23,920
less washed. 
What's what's the evidence that 

910
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,240
Miles Sanders is where where do 
we OK. 

911
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,000
I mean, we're we're continuing 
to talk in circles here. 

912
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,240
And it just is like, maybe this 
is just a shitty backfield and 

913
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:33,680
they kind of just all chop and 
change it. 

914
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,160
It's the it's the 2024 Chiefs, 
except the Kareem Hunt points 

915
00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:42,440
are split between two guys. 
I I think it might be 

916
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:43,960
interesting that they drafted 
too. 

917
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:45,640
Like what? 
What is? 

918
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:47,720
If you're trying to project 
blue, why would they draft 

919
00:47:47,720 --> 00:47:49,920
another one? 
You know, they, they're not like

920
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,480
really good, so why would they 
feel the need to draft a? 

921
00:47:52,480 --> 00:47:55,240
Second Phil. 
Phil Moffa, I believe, is listed

922
00:47:55,240 --> 00:47:59,400
at. 
Yeah, he's. 230. 

923
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:03,240
He has nothing in common with 
Blue, at least like he is. 

924
00:48:03,240 --> 00:48:05,440
He is. 
He is a large. 

925
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:07,800
Short yard he's that's 
intentional he's. 

926
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:11,480
He's too OK, you want to I just 
that doesn't make. 

927
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,760
Me nervous for Blue because like
Blue's never going to do that 

928
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,600
stuff anyway. 
Like he's like no matter who 

929
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,600
Blue is paired with, like the 
backfield could be Jayden Blue 

930
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,080
and Mike Show and like I'm 
betting on you to get the goal 

931
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:25,760
line work. 
I just, I just saw the absolute 

932
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:29,200
worst timeline, which is Jayden 
Blue is active for special 

933
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:31,680
teams. 
All four guys are active on game

934
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,800
day and they're all getting like
each guy gets like 2 1/2 rushes 

935
00:48:36,800 --> 00:48:37,680
per week. 
And how? 

936
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:39,600
How does Hunter Lumpke factor 
into this? 

937
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,240
Oh, my God. 
Oh, my God. 

938
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,880
Hunter Lumpke. 
I I had totally forgotten about 

939
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,560
third down back. 
Hunter Lumpke. 

940
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:49,440
Yeah, I'm still, I'm still 
taking Jayden. 

941
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:52,200
Jayden Rodriguez. 
I don't even know how did that 

942
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,400
even happen. 
I guess I was thinking Chris 

943
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,400
Rodriguez. 
I'm still taking Jayden Blue. 

944
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,200
Once a slap, always a slap. 
Don't you know? 

945
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:03,520
Do as I say, not as I do. 
Jacob giving me the ball once I 

946
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:06,400
told him that I get have more 
career rushing yards than Reggie

947
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:13,120
Bush who in 20/16/12 carries for
-3 is the official stat line on 

948
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,680
that he. 
Returned kicks on that team. 

949
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:18,360
I I I totally wiped this out. 
He caught a few passes. 

950
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,000
What I'll remember him most for 
is I was on the sideline with my

951
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:24,680
young son before a pre season 
game and a punt. 

952
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,960
He was, you know, getting ready 
for a punt return roll and he 

953
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:30,640
just didn't bother coming to the
ball. 

954
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:32,800
It came to the sideline and my 
son picked it up and it's right 

955
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:34,920
there. 
So that was pretty cool. 

956
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:37,760
Good for Reggie Bush. 
Good for Reggie Bush. 

957
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:39,240
Good for. 
Julie, I'm looking at the Andre 

958
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:41,400
Swift stats from last year and 
lowering him on the right. 

959
00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:46,720
It's it's worse than I remember.
While you do that, if you don't 

960
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:49,560
mind, switch to the second slide
here as we're approaching 50 

961
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,360
minutes we. 
Didn't we? 

962
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,960
Didn't. 
Even talk about Besh we. 

963
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:54,760
Didn't talk about RJ Harvey or 
Besh or Genti. 

964
00:49:54,960 --> 00:49:56,440
That's right. 
RJ Harvey and. 

965
00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,120
RJ Harvey not high enough? 
This feels fairly efficient the 

966
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:01,960
more you think about it, it 
feels. 

967
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,560
Fine, good, good with Harvey. 
I think there's been enough 

968
00:50:04,720 --> 00:50:06,240
Harvey discourse on the 
Internet. 

969
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,360
To. 
Yeah, I think, I think we can 

970
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:10,080
skip that. 
I just want to make a real quick

971
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:15,880
point on Bash here. 
This is actually the Slappies 

972
00:50:15,880 --> 00:50:20,400
have not gone far enough with 
Jack Bash, a round two pick in a

973
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:23,120
Dome. 
They're very likely to be top 

974
00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:28,840
five, 6-7 in pace plays per game
situation, neutral, but they're 

975
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,200
probably going to be bad. 
So that'll tilt them a little 

976
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,160
bit more. 
Pat, maybe not bad, but they're 

977
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:38,000
not going to be throttling 
people on defense. 

978
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,800
I don't think anyone imagines 
that these are the players who 

979
00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:45,880
are standing in the way of Jack 
Besh, Even with Bowers, even 

980
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,640
with Gente demanding, let's call
it 50% of the available just 

981
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,400
plays. 
There you go. 

982
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:54,880
Kobe Myers. 
Right. 

983
00:50:55,320 --> 00:51:01,280
Jacoby Myers 20 he, he Kobe 
Myers can have his 25% target 

984
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,360
share and there's still enough 
meat on the bone because these 

985
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:08,440
are the other players year for 
Trey Tucker, Michael Mayer, who 

986
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,600
if you go back and look, Michael
Mayer played over 60% of the 

987
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:14,960
offensive snaps for the Raiders 
after he came back from his 

988
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,840
personal absence last year. 
Dante Thornton, a fifth round 

989
00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:23,040
rookie, Christian Wilkerson and 
another guy whose name I am 

990
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,520
totally forgetting. 
So basically, if Besh is good 

991
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:30,160
and that's the part you have to 
solve for in this equation if 

992
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,600
we're working backwards. 
But if he is good, there is 

993
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,480
there is no roadblock. 
There's absolute this is this is

994
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,320
as wide open as a depth chart 
can possibly get. 

995
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:40,800
And that's even with. 
Let's assume. 

996
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:43,840
Let's do that. 
Let's assume Bowers is good. 

997
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:46,680
Bowers is good. 
It's not wide open. 

998
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:49,400
There's there's two others legit
pass wide. 

999
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:51,520
Open for routes. 
It's wide open for like that. 

1000
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,640
OK, the path the path for bash 
to run 90% of routes is very 

1001
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:57,360
very. 
So so. 

1002
00:51:57,360 --> 00:52:01,000
Clear the path for him to have 
though like to be more than the 

1003
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,240
number three option in the 
passing game that I'm struggling

1004
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:06,960
to see. 
So like I, I like Jack Bash a 

1005
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,640
lot, but I, I don't, I think 
this price is like pretty fine 

1006
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:13,440
so. 
Lack of imagination on Jacob's 

1007
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:14,440
part. 
Because like, you shouldn't, you

1008
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,240
shouldn't be like getting close 
to like Trey Harris, who's 

1009
00:52:17,240 --> 00:52:20,560
basically the same draft capital
but with a better quarterback 

1010
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:24,200
and can, if he's good, he's just
easily the number two option, 

1011
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:25,800
whereas best is the number three
option. 

1012
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:31,600
Now now, as MTM Revolt says, we 
do need to stay woke to Tommy 

1013
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:34,640
Mellett. 
Who is the most interesting 

1014
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:38,440
player You don't know about? 
The legend of Tommy Mellett, 

1015
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,760
Jacob. 
What is this, The legend of Sid 

1016
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,760
Finch? 
No dude, this is this is a 10 

1017
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:48,440
RAF quarterback wide receiver 
who played at Montana State 

1018
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:50,160
University. 
He is incredible. 

1019
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,200
Yeah, this is this is a Davis 
Maddock special. 

1020
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,080
This is a This is a Davis 
Maddock special. 

1021
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,680
This is. 
Like for him on on your stream 

1022
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:58,760
in July? 
God, I hope so, man. 

1023
00:52:59,680 --> 00:53:02,160
Lane Larrison told me. 
All of his media has to get 

1024
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:04,560
approved by the Patriots now. 
So I think I, I think I missed 

1025
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:07,440
my window. 
Oh no, he's on the Patriots. 

1026
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,440
Yeah. 
That could be kind of good for 

1027
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:11,480
him though. 
Kind of kind of good for him, 

1028
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,920
but not good for getting media 
approval, I think, Yeah. 

1029
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,320
I don't think that's the team 
you want for trying to book 

1030
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:18,520
somebody. 
I don't think that's the team 

1031
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:21,040
you want. 
Davis you could make content out

1032
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:22,000
of. 
Your the. 

1033
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:24,480
Journey of trying to get media 
approval from the Patriots 

1034
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,160
though. 
Like you could just publicly 

1035
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,000
post all of the correspondence 
with the Patriots. 

1036
00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:34,960
That would do numbers. 
Let me know if I can help. 

1037
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:37,080
Let me know if I can help. 
I might need you. 

1038
00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:38,880
Yeah. 
I, I, it's I I don't know. 

1039
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,160
I don't know. 
I don't know how it's going to. 

1040
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:40,880
Yeah. 
Jordan Hudson. 

1041
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,040
Would be would be hanging on 
every. 

1042
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:48,560
What you need is for the guy to 
have like a 'cause if he has 

1043
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,160
like he's doing, he's showing up
at a school, you know, he's, you

1044
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:53,640
know, food bank, anything like 
that. 

1045
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,680
If he has a cause and then 
either through his agent or the 

1046
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,600
team, you'll be like, you'll get
a press release. 

1047
00:53:58,600 --> 00:54:00,800
You'll you know, if you're on 
the list, you'll get a press 

1048
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:02,960
release announcing it and then 
you can book him. 

1049
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,320
I don't know if LAN Larrison is 
big enough to have a cause. 

1050
00:54:06,320 --> 00:54:08,240
Yet to have a cause. 
Yeah, yeah, he's got to make a 

1051
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:10,320
play first. 
'Cause it's still LAN Larrison, 

1052
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:12,920
that's his current. 
Cause making the making the team

1053
00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,160
cause. 
The cause is is making the 

1054
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,360
Patriots practice squad. 
He goes, he goes into PR like 

1055
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:19,880
I've got this thing. 
Not yet. 

1056
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:22,000
You know, you just got to be on.
You got to have a jersey first 

1057
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,440
before we can start promoting 
you. 

1058
00:54:24,120 --> 00:54:25,640
OK? 
What? 

1059
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:27,600
What? 
About this, what about this 

1060
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:29,600
idea? 
You can maybe get LAN larison. 

1061
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:36,640
On the butt, Pete dressed up as 
LAN would would do that would do

1062
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:37,720
numbies. 
That would be a. 

1063
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,520
Really good fit. 
It still does sound like a name 

1064
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,280
Will Ferrell might have dreamed 
up. 

1065
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:46,040
LAN Larison. 
He's a, he's a, he's a cowboy 

1066
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,040
dude. 
He he he used to In high school,

1067
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:51,280
he rode like bucking Broncos on 
a ranch. 

1068
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:54,360
Not a real. 
Person you got to go sort of 

1069
00:54:55,400 --> 00:55:00,600
back channels to get them OK 
fallers, you know the the theme 

1070
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:04,560
with risers was they're not yet 
you know rising enough. 

1071
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,360
Mostly we sort of liked all 
these guys even after their move

1072
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:14,480
up on the boards fallers Naji 
Harris on top 27% drop obviously

1073
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:16,360
DJ Moore. 
I heard you guys talking about 

1074
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,520
him the other day, Nico Collins,
Roma Dunze. 

1075
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:24,240
Also with more on the Bears, 
Jerome Ford, Jaylen McMillan and

1076
00:55:24,280 --> 00:55:27,160
Dylan Sampson. 
That's interesting. 

1077
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,200
Kind of maybe we think what 
blocked by Judkins and 

1078
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,400
Cleveland. 
I don't know what they'll do. 

1079
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,720
That draft capital outcome too, 
I mean, he, he was, yeah, to go 

1080
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:39,520
day 2 and and then he goes day 
three to a place where he's 

1081
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:41,800
maybe the RV 2, maybe even the 
RV 3. 

1082
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:46,240
And a lot of these rookies, I 
mean, we were, we were really 

1083
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:48,840
hoping to hit the Harvey type of
outcome, you know. 

1084
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:52,920
And so, yeah, like he, he needs,
he needed the fall. 

1085
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:56,440
Nico Collins is the 2 Texans Day
2 receivers. 

1086
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:05,800
I actually think it's that Genti
is rising and yeah, another one 

1087
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,240
of the wide receivers is higher 
now. 

1088
00:56:07,240 --> 00:56:08,360
I don't have, I don't have the 
rank. 

1089
00:56:08,360 --> 00:56:11,880
It's. 
I mean, it's like 20, it's a 20%

1090
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,680
fall. 
But like he, he fell like 2 

1091
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,200
spots. 
So it's like, it's not. 

1092
00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,960
It's just, yeah. 
Yeah, it's fine. 

1093
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,800
Neighbors didn't get Travis 
Hunter. 

1094
00:56:20,120 --> 00:56:26,600
Maybe a slight rise. 
And I think, I think Dart is 

1095
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,160
like better than it. 
It just seems like better when 

1096
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,320
you see what what happened to 
Cleveland, You're like, yeah, 

1097
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:35,160
Jason's not so bad. 
This could be OK. 

1098
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:37,040
You know, at least there's like 
hope. 

1099
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,080
Well, the bears, the bears, 
Davis, here you go. 

1100
00:56:43,080 --> 00:56:45,880
I mean if you want all the bears
you got 2 here that are falling.

1101
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,040
And they're gonna keep falling. 
And once a Doonese gets to my 

1102
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:54,040
ranking, I, I, I plan on 
clicking the button. 

1103
00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:57,240
I just am not going to take the 
worst of it right now in these 

1104
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:00,120
contests when I know the 
direction that it's going. 

1105
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:06,200
Like it's it, those are, I think
I have him at 57, so he's at 50 

1106
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:10,880
right now. 
And those are, oh, there we go. 

1107
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,320
So, so I, I, I guess I drafted 
yesterday. 

1108
00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:16,040
I did take Rome once. 
I, I have them at 60, so we're, 

1109
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:20,080
we're aligned there. 
My copy of Davis's updated 

1110
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,920
Dynasty ranks has Odoon Odoonsay
at 50 that I'm using in a 

1111
00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:26,000
startup. 
Yeah, I I have. 

1112
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,240
I I was not. 
Inspired, I think. 

1113
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:31,440
Yeah, it is. 
I'm I'm not as bearish on 

1114
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,840
bearish. 
That's funny on a Doomsday's 

1115
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:38,240
Future value, as it seems other 
people are, because I think 

1116
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,560
there's like 3 diametrically 
opposed ideas for why they took 

1117
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:47,320
Loveland and Burden, and it just
really depends on the weight 

1118
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:48,760
that you're holding in your mind
at the time. 

1119
00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:51,320
It could be they don't want DJ 
Moore anymore. 

1120
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,000
It could be Rome insurance. 
It could be they think Rome is 

1121
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:55,840
not him and they need another 
wide receiver. 

1122
00:57:55,960 --> 00:57:58,800
It could be Ben Johnson just 
wants to throw the ball a 

1123
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,720
bazillion times. 
It could be Ben Johnson just 

1124
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,840
loved Luther Burden, could be 
Ryan Pole's love. 

1125
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:07,400
There's so many and I just 
don't. 

1126
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,520
I just don't think you can 
definitively say which thing 

1127
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:15,000
yet. 
But I do know that Roma Dunsay 

1128
00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:17,960
was a pretty good prospect with 
a really good draft capital who 

1129
00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,760
flashed a little bit. 
There are a lot of reasons that 

1130
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,360
we can all give excuses for the 
Bears offense underperforming 

1131
00:58:23,640 --> 00:58:27,800
last season. 
Now, could, could this be crazy?

1132
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:32,320
Could this, could Roma Dunsay go
the way of Jalen Reger? 

1133
00:58:32,320 --> 00:58:34,600
Of course he could. 
You know, that's always, that's 

1134
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:36,960
always I think, a legitimate 
risk. 

1135
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,960
But I am on the other side of 
that right now. 

1136
00:58:41,880 --> 00:58:45,400
Burden, Speaking of them, is 
interesting to me because he 

1137
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,480
seems like a really hot item in 
these rookie drafts. 

1138
00:58:48,480 --> 00:58:52,440
And that's with Loveland on top,
that's with Odunsay and with 

1139
00:58:52,440 --> 00:58:54,320
more. 
And as a player that did not 

1140
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:56,080
make the first round. 
Burden. 

1141
00:58:56,080 --> 00:59:00,400
Burden was somebody that people 
had either side of the coin, 

1142
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,920
really loved the talent but 
didn't want to, you know, sort 

1143
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:05,360
of trust it based on other 
factors. 

1144
00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:09,280
Yet even with how it went, it 
seems like he's somebody you 

1145
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:12,600
have to kind of little bit reach
for in rookie drafts. 

1146
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:16,120
So Burden didn't get like the 
perfect outcome, but it's good 

1147
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,960
enough and it has people 
excited, I think. 

1148
00:59:19,960 --> 00:59:23,720
Yeah, he's just going in a range
where I don't know that I even 

1149
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,080
love the price on burden and 
basketball. 

1150
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:32,200
I love the price and dynasty, 
but there's no one going around 

1151
00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:34,840
burden that I have. 
I feel that terrified of beating

1152
00:59:34,840 --> 00:59:37,520
me. 
So I'm I'm pretty open minded to

1153
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,880
just like Chuck in the dart at 
the board on burden and and 

1154
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,200
seeing what happens, I'm at his 
spot. 

1155
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:45,000
What is that? 
Yeah, it's a. 

1156
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:51,720
Lot higher at at his ADP yeah I 
want to say it's like 80 what do

1157
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:53,080
you guys have it in front of you
you guys I'm. 

1158
00:59:53,520 --> 01:00:01,240
Looking Burdens. 
ADP. 87. 11O3 on Underdog. 

1159
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,400
Oh, I'm looking at something 
that is I'm looking at I'm. 

1160
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:08,520
I guess I was looking at the 
wrong sheet. 

1161
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,600
No, it's not 103. 
It's not one. 03.103.4. 

1162
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,080
Yeah, Wide receiver, Wide 
receiver 51. 

1163
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:18,760
Yeah. 
It just no, I have, I have, I 

1164
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:21,760
have 88.3 right? 
Now, oh, that's the eliminator 

1165
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,080
that I knew I wasn't crazy. 
That's the eliminator. 

1166
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:28,360
It's the yes he is. 
He is 88.3. 

1167
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,040
Wide receiver 47. 
That is the exchange rate. 

1168
01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,280
That's what Jacob usually is. 
First to the US, Canada, the. 

1169
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,160
The one. 88.3 there. 
We go it when you click the 

1170
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,880
rankings tab, it defaults you to
the eliminator. 

1171
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:43,880
I'm on the wrong one. 
Don't really make sense in the 

1172
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:47,080
eliminator because Luther Burden
is not an eliminator ass pick. 

1173
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:51,080
That's that's for sure. 
He's a he's a puppy three ass 

1174
01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:54,360
pick. 
I've been taking him in the 

1175
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:58,120
puppy and the schnauzer. 
But yeah, 88 like these, these 

1176
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,480
are the guys that he's like 
living with, right? 

1177
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,000
I mean, it's all the guys. 
We just it's all the dusty 

1178
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:03,480
running backs. 
We just talked about Swift 

1179
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:07,000
Jones, Brian Robinson, Pacheco. 
It's like the beginning of the 

1180
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:09,160
quarterback wave. 
Darnell Mooney goes directly 

1181
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:10,280
behind him. 
No thanks. 

1182
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:13,560
So at that point in time, it's 
like, sure, I'll I'll like take 

1183
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:16,360
the blind shot on Luther Burden 
that that could end up being 

1184
01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,640
totally useless about where 
Rome's going. 

1185
01:01:19,680 --> 01:01:21,320
No chance. 
Like I'm not taking him over 

1186
01:01:21,320 --> 01:01:23,360
Crystal Lave. 
I'm not taking him over Jawan 

1187
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:27,920
Jennings. 
DJ Moore doesn't doesn't exist 

1188
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:32,120
in my rankings. 
DJ Moore is is not a player that

1189
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,680
that consists in My Portfolio. 
I love how they default the 

1190
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:37,640
other cool contest I can't play 
in. 

1191
01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:44,000
DJ Moore Yeah, I mean, I I'm 
sure I will eventually go 

1192
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:47,280
camping when I've entered some 
slow drafts and I will auto 

1193
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,840
draft DJ Moore, but that's the 
only way that I get a share of 

1194
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,520
his services in the 2025 
basketball season. 

1195
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,000
Jacob's such a hater man, he. 
Just I do think there's some 

1196
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:58,160
upside with Moore, but he he 
just needs to fall like the 3-4 

1197
01:01:58,160 --> 01:01:59,640
turn. 
There's, there's other things I 

1198
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:01,960
want to do there. 
I think if he was even going 

1199
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:05,320
like at the end of the fourth, 
I'd be totally fine with it. 

1200
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,720
It's just that there's I just, I
think he should be kind of after

1201
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,320
the group that he's currently in
the middle of. 

1202
01:02:16,200 --> 01:02:20,440
Yeah, Burden is burden is a 
tricky 1 because I am kind of 

1203
01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:25,120
excited, but he is boom bust in 
redraft. 

1204
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:29,960
I think I'll be pretty in, but I
I'm kind of in here. 

1205
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,520
I'm kind of in here to be 
honest. 

1206
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:38,080
Yeah, I'm I'm the least in here 
of every format that I play, but

1207
01:02:38,080 --> 01:02:39,800
I will still certainly be 
overweight. 

1208
01:02:39,800 --> 01:02:42,920
Yeah, that's a good one. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, But I but when

1209
01:02:42,920 --> 01:02:47,720
we get to FFPC season, I mean 
get the clips ready, right. 

1210
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,880
Like that's, that's like I want 
them on every single team if I 

1211
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,080
can just stick them on the 
bench. 

1212
01:02:55,960 --> 01:03:00,160
By the way, Speaking of that, 
I'll be in the big gorilla hard 

1213
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:02,720
way draft tomorrow night. 
Can't stream it because we're 

1214
01:03:02,720 --> 01:03:04,920
driving kids around from sports,
but that's at 8:00. 

1215
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:10,040
FFPC will have a stream. 
Who else here a lot of Speaking 

1216
01:03:10,040 --> 01:03:11,920
of RJ Harvey earlier, a lot of 
these guys have been talked 

1217
01:03:11,920 --> 01:03:17,560
about a lot already and by us. 
I talked to a reporter in in 

1218
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:20,320
Cleveland yesterday, Spencer 
German about the Browns, trying 

1219
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,840
to figure out what they do. 
I mean, we talk about the 

1220
01:03:22,840 --> 01:03:25,400
quarterbacks with them and what 
kind of a competition that will 

1221
01:03:25,400 --> 01:03:28,480
look like. 
How does Judkins versus Samson 

1222
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,800
feel based on draft capital and 
and talent to you guys? 

1223
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:34,840
Think it's pretty clear what 
they want to do. 

1224
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:40,480
They want to, they want to run 
the gosh Dang ball and and try 

1225
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,640
and win as many games 17 to 13 
as possible. 

1226
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:50,440
Yeah, can you just imagine? 
Jenkins is their guy. 

1227
01:03:52,120 --> 01:03:54,360
Jenkins is their guy. 
Like I I'm not a big Jenkins 

1228
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,360
fan, but he's he went 36th 
overall to a team that shouldn't

1229
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:01,720
have been really in the drafting
running backs market at their 

1230
01:04:01,720 --> 01:04:06,840
point in in their franchise. 
So he's he's definitely the 

1231
01:04:06,840 --> 01:04:10,400
dude. 
It's just a tough situation to 

1232
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,240
invest in. 
I don't know. 

1233
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:14,680
They're going to have like 5 
different quarterbacks. 

1234
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:16,200
Their offense is going to be 
terrible. 

1235
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:21,440
I mean Jenkins is going to need 
like an absurd amount of volume 

1236
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,520
as a non pass catching or at 
least to this point non pass 

1237
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:28,200
catching prospect on an awful 
team. 

1238
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,400
So it better be like 80. 
There's a big difference based 

1239
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:36,000
on the situation between Judkins
is the guy with 61% of the 

1240
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,880
touches and Judkins is the guy 
with 82% of the touches. 

1241
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:41,000
I I mean, he's going to need it 
to be the ladder for his upside 

1242
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,600
case. 
On this, I'm not even, I'm not 

1243
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:47,320
even really that into Judkins. 
I'm not He's he's fine. 

1244
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:49,120
I'm not that into any of the 
Browns. 

1245
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,360
Early down runner on a team that
is going to play four different 

1246
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,160
quarterbacks this year like. 
Yeah, it is. 

1247
01:04:56,160 --> 01:05:00,960
It is when you put it like that,
it is a little unfortunate, but 

1248
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:05,840
I think Judkins isn't like 
purely A2 down guy. 

1249
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:10,600
He actually he was used a bit in
the passing game and was used a 

1250
01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,240
bit in the passing game even 
with Henderson last year. 

1251
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:17,440
I know he's not like, you know, 
he's not Hampton even like 

1252
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:20,400
Hampton, you're like this dude 
can do everything well enough to

1253
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:23,400
just be a three down workhorse. 
He's he's going to be more of 

1254
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,840
like A2 down dude, but I don't 
think he's like a zero in the 

1255
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,360
passing game. 
So that's the part I'm 

1256
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,120
struggling with. 
I think I'm higher on Judkins as

1257
01:05:33,120 --> 01:05:38,840
a prospect maybe than you guys. 
But yeah, I mean, him getting 

1258
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,520
flipped by Harvey makes sense to
me. 

1259
01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,920
The. 
Fun about the broken tackles got

1260
01:05:42,920 --> 01:05:48,800
to me a little bit on on. 
Judkins broken tackles, we like 

1261
01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:50,960
Sean has always talked about 
like we always pay, we always 

1262
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:53,040
overpay for broken tackles, you 
know? 

1263
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,160
And then sometimes, guys, that's
their like that. 

1264
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:58,400
That was Zach Moss's only trait.
Right, right. 

1265
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,960
Yeah, that. 
Was what actually mattered 

1266
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,400
trade? 
It's like guys take different 

1267
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:07,880
paths to getting efficient, you 
know, to being efficient 

1268
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:08,640
rushers. 
And that's. 

1269
01:06:08,760 --> 01:06:10,320
That's what. 
What path did Judkins take 

1270
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:14,080
exactly? 
Playing for Oh, No Ohio. 

1271
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:15,560
State Oh, he didn't take any 
time. 

1272
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,000
For Ohio State. 
No, but he wasn't efficient at 

1273
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:22,280
Ohio State at all. 
Yeah, no, he wasn't. 

1274
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:23,800
He really wasn't. 
Henderson was much better. 

1275
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:25,320
All right, I got AI, got a 
little. 

1276
01:06:25,480 --> 01:06:26,480
We could just play a little 
game. 

1277
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,080
How many rushing touchdowns? 
Like he played at Ohio State? 

1278
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,280
Well, he had 5.5 yards, that's 
fine. 

1279
01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,480
The previous period 4.3 at Ole 
Miss. 

1280
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,840
He was hurt. 
He was hurt that year, played 

1281
01:06:36,840 --> 01:06:38,200
through a played through an 
ankle injury. 

1282
01:06:38,360 --> 01:06:38,640
I. 
Don't. 

1283
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:41,440
That's what I would say. 
That is what I would say. 

1284
01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:44,360
How many rushing touchdowns 
total for the Cleveland Browns? 

1285
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:49,400
I say 13, 13 total rushing 
touchdowns. 

1286
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:55,400
How do you have a bad median? 
What's the bottom? 

1287
01:06:55,480 --> 01:06:58,400
What's the bottom for this stat 
normally in the league? 

1288
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,200
I mean, the Bills had 30. 
Yeah, what's the? 

1289
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:01,680
Last year or what's the last 
year? 

1290
01:07:01,800 --> 01:07:04,280
What's the low? 
I will, I will, I will pull it 

1291
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:08,440
up. 
In 2024, rushing touchdowns 

1292
01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:12,640
median was 13. 
The Cowboys had 6. 

1293
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,200
The Browns last year had eight. 
The New York Jets had eight. 

1294
01:07:16,200 --> 01:07:17,640
The Minnesota Vikings is kind of
weird. 

1295
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,920
They had 9. 
The Patriots had 10. 

1296
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:27,320
So basically like the 15th team 
in the NFL had 15, so 13 I. 

1297
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,920
Actually, 13's good. 13 was high
I think actually. 

1298
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,840
Oh I'm I'm feeling like a nice 
10. 

1299
01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:37,680
So I think my way of stating 
that would be we're, we're 

1300
01:07:37,800 --> 01:07:40,400
actually probably I, I might 
need to move Judkins down a 

1301
01:07:40,400 --> 01:07:42,360
little bit. 
How many passing touchdowns do 

1302
01:07:42,360 --> 01:07:45,440
they come up with? 
Passing touchdowns for the 

1303
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:51,280
Browns last season, 19, One more
than the Patriots, four more 

1304
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,560
than the New York Football 
Giants. 

1305
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:56,920
So 6 for Chadur, 5 for Flacco, 2
for Gabriel. 

1306
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,680
Or for Pickett. 3 for her for 
Pickett. 

1307
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:02,760
The Browns The Browns couldn't 
have taken. 

1308
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,040
The Browns couldn't have taken 
Tommy Mellett. 

1309
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:07,080
They couldn't have taken Tommy 
Mellett just for me to. 

1310
01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:10,000
Dream one for Gretchen Wieners. 
That's a bit annoying. 

1311
01:08:10,200 --> 01:08:12,320
I know Elijah Moore caught one 
last year. 

1312
01:08:12,520 --> 01:08:15,120
New new Bill Elijah Moore. 
Yes. 

1313
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,439
By the way, Speaking of of 
breaking tackles, I just thought

1314
01:08:18,439 --> 01:08:21,080
of a line when I was talking to 
Ross Tucker a few weeks ago 

1315
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:24,960
about Genti and I I never heard 
a bad word about Gente from 

1316
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,520
anybody. 
Everything was just like, he's 

1317
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,200
amazing comparing him to 
generational prospects. 

1318
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:32,840
And Ross at one point said, you 
know, though the five yards 

1319
01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:37,040
after contact per carry maybe 
make somebody miss once. 

1320
01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:41,840
It's it's an interesting take, 
but the reason why he has so 

1321
01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,640
many yards after per carry is 
because his runs were so long. 

1322
01:08:45,359 --> 01:08:46,920
So like if you think about it. 
Your yards. 

1323
01:08:47,160 --> 01:08:49,319
Your yards after contacts per 
attempt. 

1324
01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:51,439
You're saying Genti doesn't make
people miss? 

1325
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:53,920
No, it was just a, it was just a
comment, like a throwaway 

1326
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:55,800
comment he made. 
Just like you know. 

1327
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:58,479
That that is. 
Spoken tackles all the all the 

1328
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:02,319
mileage on them already. 
That's in numeracy, in action, 

1329
01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:06,120
not understanding that if you 
have two, if you have 260 yard 

1330
01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:08,359
touchdown runs where you were 
contacted near the line of 

1331
01:09:08,359 --> 01:09:10,520
scrimmage, that is going to 
super skew. 

1332
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,080
Genti makes people miss 
constantly. 

1333
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,040
That's like his whole thing. 
Yeah, I mean Genty's. 

1334
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,080
Whole thing is every. 
Genty's whole thing is 

1335
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:21,319
everything. 
It's actually bearish when you 

1336
01:09:21,319 --> 01:09:23,200
run for seven yard touchdowns if
you think about it. 

1337
01:09:26,319 --> 01:09:28,960
I'm glad that was a throwaway 
comment cuz that's. 

1338
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,720
I just thought it was funny. 
Genti's first game where he goes

1339
01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:35,279
14 carries for 48 yards. 
People are just gonna be up in 

1340
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:36,279
arms. 
They're gonna be like, this is 

1341
01:09:36,279 --> 01:09:39,880
Bijon with Arthur Smith all over
again, where he Mostert looks 

1342
01:09:39,880 --> 01:09:43,800
bad, like the first bad Genti 
game, the all the all the olds 

1343
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:45,920
are gonna be like. 
And you guys were taking a 

1344
01:09:45,920 --> 01:09:48,640
Raiders rookie running back in 
the first round. 

1345
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:50,960
Yeah, right, dude, it's gonna 
be. 

1346
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,600
It's just prepare yourself for 
that. 

1347
01:09:53,000 --> 01:09:56,000
Can't wait. 
Yeah, I'll be fun. 

1348
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:58,520
That's what we talked about. 
DraftKings next week. 

1349
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:01,320
Yeah. 
We talked about the veteran 

1350
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,640
running backs a little bit 
already, not so much Pacheco 

1351
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:06,880
Davis. 
How did he come out of this 

1352
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:07,760
draft pretty? 
Good. 

1353
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,840
I mean sad. 
Sad to say it, man. 

1354
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:17,520
Pacheco probably just like the 
clearest chance of being a 

1355
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,600
league winner of of this group 
of guys. 

1356
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,000
And I, you guys know, it pains 
me to say it because that is 

1357
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,880
then by transferral, by 
transference, that indicates 

1358
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,360
that the Chiefs are going to be 
boring and annoying on offense 

1359
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:35,760
again. 
But if the best replica of the 

1360
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,840
McKinnon role, which became the 
P run role, is a seventh round 

1361
01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:44,000
rookie, they might just have 
Pacheco out there for 80% of the

1362
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:45,640
snaps. 
Because I don't think my 

1363
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,080
position right now, if you made 
me bet at -110. 

1364
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,400
Either way, is Kareem Hunt on 
the Week 1 roster? 

1365
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:56,600
I'm betting -110 No, he is not. 
OK, interesting. 

1366
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:58,960
So yeah, because. 
Is Pacheco is going to be 

1367
01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,960
obviously on the roster. 
Smith I would think is probably 

1368
01:11:01,960 --> 01:11:05,120
on the roster, but not not I 
guess guaranteed, but I'd like 

1369
01:11:05,120 --> 01:11:06,480
to bet on him. 
Mitchell. 

1370
01:11:07,560 --> 01:11:09,760
And well, that's the thing, It's
Hunt versus Mitchell, right? 

1371
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:13,760
Probably for the third spot. 
I mean 3.5 versus 1.5 million 

1372
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:16,920
they signed, they signed 
Mitchell the. 

1373
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:19,720
The first week of 3.5 guaranteed
for Mitchell. 

1374
01:11:20,400 --> 01:11:23,080
I will, I will look up. 
No, he actually, so this is 

1375
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,600
actually did look us up the 
other day. 

1376
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,000
The interesting thing about his 
deal is it's 2.5 million 

1377
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:32,720
guaranteed or 1.35. 
Guaranteed it's 1.35, yeah. 

1378
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:37,200
He has really interesting 
incentives that I think it is 

1379
01:11:37,200 --> 01:11:40,000
kind of interesting to see how 
his agent negotiated this. 

1380
01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:42,920
So he's got touchdown incentives
up to 7 touchdowns. 

1381
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,400
He has playing time incentives 
up to 50% of the snaps and 

1382
01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:50,600
rushing yard incentives up to 
707 hundred yards. 

1383
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:56,080
That I think is not nothing in 
terms of how they structured his

1384
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,200
deal. 
And I think it's interesting 

1385
01:11:57,200 --> 01:11:59,360
that Mitchell was willing to 
sign it. 

1386
01:11:59,680 --> 01:12:01,200
Yes, right away. 
Well. 

1387
01:12:01,880 --> 01:12:04,640
Yes, so guaranteed money. 
By the way, it's 1.35 for 

1388
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:08,360
Mitchell, it's 80. 
It's 850K for per Hunt. 

1389
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:11,080
So there is a 500K guaranteed 
gap between them. 

1390
01:12:11,480 --> 01:12:15,040
I don't think that that like. 
That money's on top of the of 

1391
01:12:15,040 --> 01:12:17,760
the guarantees, I guess, right? 
Yes, I'm not. 

1392
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:23,680
I'm not signing. 1.35 yeah. 
So it's, it's a little bit more.

1393
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,200
It's it's, it's definitely not. 
But also the relative paucity of

1394
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,600
these contracts is just a huge 
boon for Pacheco, I think. 

1395
01:12:31,120 --> 01:12:32,560
Yeah, no, that I agree with that
did. 

1396
01:12:32,600 --> 01:12:35,520
You just say the relative 
paucity of the contracts. 

1397
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:36,960
Yeah, did I use that word? 
Cheap. 

1398
01:12:37,520 --> 01:12:39,240
They're cheap. 
No, you you used it 

1399
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,160
impressively. 
Yeah, very good. 

1400
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:45,000
I think I just like. 
Word of the day. 

1401
01:12:46,120 --> 01:12:48,400
Yeah. 
So I mean, but also the other 

1402
01:12:48,400 --> 01:12:53,360
thing on top of this is the 
Chiefs are so, so arrogant and 

1403
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:54,720
just being like, you know what 
we're going to do? 

1404
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,680
We're going to be bad at 
throwing the football. 

1405
01:12:56,840 --> 01:12:59,120
We're going to lose two of our 
star defensive players. 

1406
01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:02,480
We're going to let our best 
offensive lineman go to the 

1407
01:13:02,480 --> 01:13:05,120
Chicago Bears. 
We're going to try and be a a 

1408
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:09,000
running team, but let's actually
just have shitty running backs 

1409
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:12,560
and just like a bad offensive 
line, bad running backs. 

1410
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,240
Let's and let's just see what 
happens. 

1411
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:17,240
Well, that's that's the thing. 
I Pacheco has been one of the 

1412
01:13:17,240 --> 01:13:21,040
toughest guys for me to figure 
out in the rankings because you,

1413
01:13:21,040 --> 01:13:25,040
you talk about like Swift and, 
and all, you know, Pollard and 

1414
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:28,240
all these guys, you're like, 
well, yeah, he sucks. 

1415
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:30,000
But we're betting on the 
situation. 

1416
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,840
This is maybe a better situation
than than some of these other 

1417
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:37,040
dudes. 
You're on the Chiefs, you're the

1418
01:13:37,040 --> 01:13:39,600
lead running back on the Chiefs.
And we've seen Pacheco take 

1419
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:41,920
advantage of that in the past. 
It's just at the end of the 

1420
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:45,440
season he was trash and he 
didn't get, he didn't have the 

1421
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:49,120
role and he was losing it 
between lunch I. 

1422
01:13:49,840 --> 01:13:52,600
Think you could argue he's 
actually better than the rest of

1423
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:55,040
these guys. 
That that's kind of yeah, that's

1424
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:57,720
been the thing for me. 
It's like is, is this Pacheco 

1425
01:13:57,720 --> 01:13:59,160
from a couple years ago? 
Because. 

1426
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,560
I'm that so that's The thing is 
I don't expect him to be. 

1427
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:08,280
I don't and and also Pacheco is 
because this injury sucks that 

1428
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:11,080
he had the same procedure that 
Mark Andrews had that Tony 

1429
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,080
Pollard had that tank Dell had 
that completely changed their 

1430
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:18,040
efficiency. 
Crane open this tab up. 

1431
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:20,680
I just I just shared my screen 
bring this up. 

1432
01:14:20,680 --> 01:14:24,000
This is so I've just been using 
these as shorthand because no 

1433
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,320
one else has full detailed 
projections up yet. 

1434
01:14:26,680 --> 01:14:28,680
These are Mike Clay's NFL 
projections. 

1435
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,200
I'm not using these as gospel or
anything. 

1436
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,160
When we get when we get 
different projections, I'll 

1437
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,440
start using them. 
But this is how he has the 

1438
01:14:36,440 --> 01:14:41,840
backfield broken down and it's 
the most disgusting split of of 

1439
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:45,120
nastiness you can imagine. 
He has Pacheco for one eighty 

1440
01:14:45,120 --> 01:14:49,480
183 carries Kareem Hunt for 115,
Eli Mitchell for 30. 

1441
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:51,800
I would disagree on that, but 
whatever, it's instructive for 

1442
01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:54,240
the point. 
Carson Steele active for special

1443
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:55,560
teams. 
He's got him in there. 

1444
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,840
He has Burchard Smith basically 
as like an injury. 

1445
01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:02,440
Week 18, yeah. 
And he also has worthy for 19 

1446
01:15:02,440 --> 01:15:07,280
rushes, which I think napkin 
math that sounds about right. 

1447
01:15:09,280 --> 01:15:16,320
I mean, maybe like if Pacheco is
80% not 100% health, this is 

1448
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:17,600
probably what it's going to look
like. 

1449
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:22,160
And it's going to be just the 
the worst, grossest Meyer 

1450
01:15:22,560 --> 01:15:26,280
situation. 
But ascribe some. 

1451
01:15:27,320 --> 01:15:30,200
I always knew when Pacheco came 
back last year, he was going to 

1452
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,920
be bad because you can't break 
your leg and come back and be an

1453
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,520
effective NFL running back. 
The question is, how far along 

1454
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:40,440
in his recovery is he now? 
But really, I'm just annoyed 

1455
01:15:40,440 --> 01:15:42,800
that Caleb Johnson is not a 
chief. 

1456
01:15:42,840 --> 01:15:45,640
Like just can we just. 
Agreed. 

1457
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:50,360
Can we like just can we not do 
this every year with the Chiefs?

1458
01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:54,560
One of the positional groups is 
like the worst in the NFL. 80 I 

1459
01:15:54,560 --> 01:15:55,880
don't know what the Chiefs is 
like. 

1460
01:15:55,880 --> 01:16:00,560
The Chiefs are, they love doing 
a little last minute surprise. 

1461
01:16:01,000 --> 01:16:05,080
So there's a pretty decent 
chance that like one of these 

1462
01:16:05,080 --> 01:16:08,560
guys, maybe two of these guys 
gets caught and they are the 

1463
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:12,560
team that trades a seventh round
pick for someone on August 28th.

1464
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:14,240
Miles. 
Miles Sanders. 

1465
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:18,000
Caught from waivers or whatever.
Like there's that they're that's

1466
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:20,600
always in play for the Chiefs. 
They're super active with that 

1467
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:21,960
stuff. 
So the the history, they're 

1468
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:24,320
always, they're always live for 
the last minute rug bowl. 

1469
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,920
The history of this is so deep. 
I've actually done like, I mean,

1470
01:16:27,920 --> 01:16:30,200
obviously I've gone deep into 
this, but I mean, they've done 

1471
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:33,760
this literally every year. 
I mean, you guys, no one, no one

1472
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:38,680
remembers this, the year that 
Carlos Hyde ran for 1000 yards 

1473
01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:41,560
for the Houston Texans. 
He was a Kansas City Chiefs. 

1474
01:16:42,560 --> 01:16:45,520
He was on the Kansas City Chiefs
until 10 days before the season 

1475
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,200
started, he was on. 
I recall he was. 

1476
01:16:47,240 --> 01:16:51,440
On the Chiefs, Le'veon Bell, 
Melvin Gordon, Lashawn McCoy, 

1477
01:16:53,440 --> 01:16:57,040
just Andy. 
Andy cannot help himself. 

1478
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:58,960
It couldn't do it with Ronald 
Jones. 

1479
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,640
You just couldn't let Ronald 
Jones be there. 

1480
01:17:00,800 --> 01:17:03,560
I know. 
I forgot. 

1481
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:06,800
I forgot we were drafting Ronald
Jones on the Chiefs. 

1482
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,560
Yeah. 
They just couldn't. 

1483
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:09,360
Let him have it. 
Yeah. 

1484
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,640
And like the ninth round. 
This is the most annoying. 

1485
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,120
This is the most annoying game. 
Ever looking for the guy who did

1486
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:16,400
this? 
I I actually get. 

1487
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,560
I actually get everyone who 
hates the Chiefs. 

1488
01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:22,320
I I totally get it. 
I mean, just look at this man. 

1489
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:27,920
Look at this. 
Yeah, yeah, I it's gross, man. 

1490
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,200
And they did this like Daryl 
Williams, Damian Williams, like 

1491
01:17:31,200 --> 01:17:34,920
these guys were also just. 
I can't even, I can't even, I 

1492
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,560
can't even talk about Damian 
Williams. 

1493
01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,600
I mean that is just. 
It used to be that they could 

1494
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:41,880
find like, let's hope, Rashard 
Smith. 

1495
01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:45,640
Yeah. 
Oh, Shark Kendrick W was good. 

1496
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:48,400
Shark Kendrick W was good. 
Vile David Williams. 

1497
01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:53,160
Was good. 
Yeah, I mean, well, the OK, so 

1498
01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:54,520
they draft Kareem Hunt. 
What was he? 

1499
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,160
A third round picks? 
He was a third round pick. 

1500
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,720
Yeah, third round. 
Pick, so they say spent, you 

1501
01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:01,680
know, a reasonable amount of 
capital in position. 

1502
01:18:02,120 --> 01:18:07,240
He gets cut off the field stuff 
and he was an assault and then 

1503
01:18:07,240 --> 01:18:10,160
he gets replaced by Damian 
Williams. 

1504
01:18:10,520 --> 01:18:12,760
Yeah, it's. 
Dame time and then they don't 

1505
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:15,800
bring Damian Williams and they 
then they then they draft CEH, 

1506
01:18:15,800 --> 01:18:18,200
which doesn't work. 
So now we get Darrell Williams 

1507
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:20,320
and stuff. 
So they've actually spent at the

1508
01:18:20,320 --> 01:18:24,240
running back position at points.
Why couldn't they just and like 

1509
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,600
in this class like it's a? 
You couldn't. 

1510
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,600
Get You couldn't get by shell 
tootin. 

1511
01:18:28,760 --> 01:18:30,600
You're telling me that you just 
did? 

1512
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,200
Oh God. 
But I mean, they also did draft 

1513
01:18:33,200 --> 01:18:36,440
a guy that we like really late. 
So like, if the Brashard Smith 

1514
01:18:36,440 --> 01:18:38,640
thing could happen, that could 
be really exciting. 

1515
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,280
That's what we need though. 
We need Brashard. 

1516
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,320
Smith your your your fairy fairy
tale man. 

1517
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:45,400
I mean, Pacheco is a round seven
pick. 

1518
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:48,360
Davis Smith is a better prospect
than he Davis. 

1519
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,560
Brashard Smith has one of the 
things we love to talk. 

1520
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:54,920
About he's converted. 
Well, that and he's a kick 

1521
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:56,320
returner. 
He's not just like a kick 

1522
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,920
returner, he's a kick. 
Returner. 

1523
01:18:57,920 --> 01:18:58,440
He's a kick. 
He's. 

1524
01:18:58,440 --> 01:19:00,480
Really good. 
He's a really good kick 

1525
01:19:00,480 --> 01:19:02,640
returner. 
He had like 21 like a big 

1526
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:04,760
sample. 
He had over 24 yards average 

1527
01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:06,600
kick return. 
Like he he has a really good 

1528
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:07,800
shot to be their starting kick 
returner. 

1529
01:19:07,800 --> 01:19:11,080
And you know what that means? 
Worst on game days. 

1530
01:19:11,720 --> 01:19:16,160
Worst nightmare Just actively 
funnel me to jail week 1. 

1531
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,040
Pacheco Hunt, Mitchell Steele 
and Rashard Smith are on the 

1532
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,120
roster and all active because 
cars. 

1533
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:26,600
Steele. 
Steele is he's a core 4 special 

1534
01:19:26,600 --> 01:19:27,800
teamer. 
He plays. 

1535
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:32,560
He plays on all the units. 
We did Steele like Steele's. 

1536
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,600
He has. 
How has he not been written off 

1537
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,800
this show like he already had 
his arc? 

1538
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:41,200
It was the fans hated it. 
It's so dude worst worst arc of 

1539
01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,120
all time. 
What's going to deal with the 

1540
01:19:43,120 --> 01:19:44,920
whole stuff? 
Fullback backlash? 

1541
01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:46,880
I can't. 
Didn't you get the Internet 

1542
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,560
backlash was so strong. 
How was? 

1543
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:51,680
How have you not started? 
He started a game at running 

1544
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:55,680
back for the Kansas City Chiefs 
and I lost a bet to Peter Carson

1545
01:19:55,680 --> 01:20:00,440
Steele versus Cam Akers. 
Good Lord, come on. 

1546
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:02,520
What are we doing? 
I hate this. 

1547
01:20:02,560 --> 01:20:04,680
Carson Steele is Stannis 
Baratheon. 

1548
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:10,000
That is like, I can't explain 
why, but that is incredibly 

1549
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,200
accurate. 
Yeah. 

1550
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:16,800
Carson Steele is Mr. Echo. 
Carson Steele is Mr. Echo from 

1551
01:20:16,800 --> 01:20:20,040
Lost. 
Steele was one of the worst 

1552
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:21,760
touts. 
Honest to God he wasn't. 

1553
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,320
He started a game for the 
Chiefs. 

1554
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:26,080
What happens after that is 
running back is no. 

1555
01:20:26,080 --> 01:20:27,560
Literally, it's the. 
It's the literal. 

1556
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:29,600
Exactly. 
Harson Steele's Raptor should 

1557
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:31,840
have been. 
Rumble the ball like 100 million

1558
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:34,080
times. 
Then he would have he can lead a

1559
01:20:34,080 --> 01:20:36,280
steel to water, but we can't him
make it not. 

1560
01:20:36,280 --> 01:20:38,840
Steel would have had Kareem 
Hunt's season if he didn't 

1561
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:39,800
fumble. 
He straight up. 

1562
01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,120
He straight up would have just 
had Kareem Hunt's season. 

1563
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:43,200
He looked like he was going to 
hit. 

1564
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,360
It was the game against the 
Falcons and he looked like he 

1565
01:20:45,360 --> 01:20:47,800
was going to totally hit and 
then he fumble immediately 

1566
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:49,320
against the Chargers and then it
was over. 

1567
01:20:49,320 --> 01:20:50,320
But it was over. 
Yeah. 

1568
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:52,600
Oh God. 
That can happen. 

1569
01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:55,120
Oh, this is a good, this is a 
good question. 

1570
01:20:55,120 --> 01:20:56,080
Davis, you want to take this 
one? 

1571
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:06,320
I can't Mahomes, by the way, is 
so in his head, he's he did his 

1572
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:09,080
media availability after the 
draft and he's already doing 

1573
01:21:09,080 --> 01:21:10,280
this. 
Thank we're we're going to throw

1574
01:21:10,280 --> 01:21:12,280
the ball deep. 
We're getting back to, you know,

1575
01:21:12,280 --> 01:21:14,720
we're getting back to our roots 
and like the dude's going to 

1576
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:17,240
come out and be dead last in the
NFL and A dot again. 

1577
01:21:19,640 --> 01:21:21,920
They're going to try, they're 
going to try 1 deep throw in 

1578
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,440
Week 1. 
It's going to be either an 

1579
01:21:24,440 --> 01:21:28,040
interception or Mahomes is going
to just miss Xavier Worthy, who 

1580
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:31,520
looks so wide open that he looks
like he's doing a punt return. 

1581
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,040
Fair catch. 
And it's going to be it's going 

1582
01:21:34,040 --> 01:21:34,840
to be over. 
It's going to. 

1583
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:36,160
We're already getting some 
Jalen. 

1584
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,400
I see. 
I see Patrick Mahomes, like, 

1585
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,440
like, you can't make out what 
he's saying. 

1586
01:21:42,440 --> 01:21:44,680
You can't hear him. 
And he's just like, like, you 

1587
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:47,680
know, it's just a clear 
overthrow, but he's mad. 

1588
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,200
He. 
He and he's waddling and he 

1589
01:21:49,200 --> 01:21:50,840
waddles back to the huddle 
we're. 

1590
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,920
Already getting some. 
Jaylen Waddle on Thursday night.

1591
01:21:53,960 --> 01:21:56,640
Like finally, finally. 
It's Thursday night in Vegas and

1592
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:59,760
someone else is on the TV. 
Yeah, they were on the field 

1593
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:01,080
yesterday, right? 
They were. 

1594
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:03,960
They were one of the teams that 
already started mini camp. 

1595
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:07,680
Yeah, rookie. 
By the way, can we just 

1596
01:22:07,680 --> 01:22:13,720
acknowledge just just the, the, 
the, the majesty that Davis has 

1597
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:17,720
pulled off here by getting us to
not we've removed the slides, 

1598
01:22:17,840 --> 01:22:22,040
we've pulled up 2025 chiefs 
projections and we're just 

1599
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:22,920
talking. 
Chiefs. 

1600
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:25,480
We just changed bogus to talking
chiefs. 

1601
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:30,120
I'm just watching dude. 
Is on this team. 

1602
01:22:31,920 --> 01:22:37,040
Robert Tonyon. 
Robert OK, Shoop, you did you, 

1603
01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,600
you you do bring up a point, 
which is that the slappies 

1604
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:42,120
actually can't help themselves 
with this Jalen Royals thing. 

1605
01:22:42,520 --> 01:22:47,000
Jalen Royals is like the 
definition of Justin Watsons. 

1606
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:54,240
Jalen Royals is the is the Rashi
Rice's of of Jalen Royals is the

1607
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:58,160
Justin Watsons of Rashi Rice's. 
Yeah, that is, that is 100% 

1608
01:22:58,160 --> 01:23:02,280
accurate. 
He he might be the Justin Watson

1609
01:23:02,280 --> 01:23:06,640
of Justin Ross's. 
Oh, he might be. 

1610
01:23:07,160 --> 01:23:10,800
That's what I think he is. 
Yeah, and as as Corrine 

1611
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,840
correctly pointed out, Smith is 
is art is more likely to get the

1612
01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:16,600
bump for special teams than he 
is. 

1613
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:18,560
I don't think Royals returned 
punts at all. 

1614
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:23,560
And I think Dave Taub has won 
his battle with Andy Reid to get

1615
01:23:23,560 --> 01:23:27,360
to have Nico Remigio active on 
game days to be a special team. 

1616
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:30,480
He called Nico Remigio the 
greatest special teams player 

1617
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:35,480
he's ever seen, which frankly, 
does feel like a bit of an 

1618
01:23:35,480 --> 01:23:37,520
overstatement. 
Do you think? 

1619
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:44,840
Yeah, OK, that's enough, Chiefs.
Yeah, enough. 

1620
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:46,120
I don't. 
I don't. 

1621
01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,800
I don't need to talk about. 2025
projections off the Matt Davis. 

1622
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,320
Please have those updated for 
next week. 

1623
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:56,200
All right. 
We can do the Colts next week. 

1624
01:23:56,200 --> 01:24:00,040
We can do the Colts next week. 
Yeah, baby, I, I, I'm. 

1625
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,960
Really excited to get Show 
breaking down the projections to

1626
01:24:02,960 --> 01:24:05,720
the 9 guys who are active at 
wide receiver for the Bills. 

1627
01:24:05,720 --> 01:24:10,560
On Oh It's It's Hell again, It's
Hell Again, Elijah Moore. 

1628
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:13,760
Are you guys taking a victory 
lap on them signing Elijah 

1629
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:14,880
Moore? 
Is that is that? 

1630
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,880
You can only, you can only do so
much of that. 

1631
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,080
I mean, it was just so funny. 
The timing, Monday morning, 8:30

1632
01:24:21,080 --> 01:24:25,200
last week, is Brandon Bean on 
WGR just blasting at people who 

1633
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:28,080
think the Bills need help at 
wide receiver 905. 

1634
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:30,320
There's Elijah Moore, you know, 
in for a visit. 

1635
01:24:31,480 --> 01:24:34,560
Yeah, he, he was really. 
I listened to that clip. 

1636
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,640
He, he, he did not handle that 
gracefully. 

1637
01:24:37,560 --> 01:24:40,520
He was hot and he did every 
other media possible available 

1638
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:44,040
to him last week, You know, sort
of maybe soft pedaling, I don't 

1639
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,600
know. 
But is Elijah more interesting 

1640
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:49,280
to you guys at all? 
Well, let me let me ask you, let

1641
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:53,280
me throw this to you, Mike, as 
it pertains to Keon Coleman, 

1642
01:24:53,280 --> 01:24:55,720
first round pick for the Buffalo
Bills last season. 

1643
01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,360
Two O 1, but yeah. 2. 
Second round pick. 

1644
01:24:58,760 --> 01:25:01,640
I'm doing dynasty trade with 
Michael Leone where I'm 

1645
01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,000
attempting to acquire all of his
future picks. 

1646
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,320
I have this beyond awful team. 
I have the one O 1. 

1647
01:25:07,640 --> 01:25:09,960
Leone is the only person in this
league who's willing to give up 

1648
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:12,400
multiple firsts, multiple 
seconds, yadda yadda, but he's 

1649
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:15,400
saying I just can't. 
I can't just get the one O 1. 

1650
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:17,520
You have to give me something 
and I have literally no one on 

1651
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:18,640
this team. 
This is the worst. 

1652
01:25:18,640 --> 01:25:21,960
I I had eight players score 100 
or more points last season on a 

1653
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,800
30 man roster. 
It's it's as dire as it gets. 

1654
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:29,000
OK, I have Quintin Johnston. 
I have Jail McMillan. 

1655
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,040
I have Xavier Leigh GAT. 
I have Keon Coleman. 

1656
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:36,560
Not great, right? 
He wants Keon Coleman and I'm 

1657
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:38,680
like Mike, I can't give up Keon 
Coleman. 

1658
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,240
I will give you Leigh GAT. 
I will give you McMillan, but I 

1659
01:25:41,240 --> 01:25:44,600
cannot give you he's the only 
guy with a semblance of upside. 

1660
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,520
So that was my rubber meets the 
road of I think those guys are 

1661
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:50,240
dead. 
I think Leigh GAT and McMillan 

1662
01:25:50,240 --> 01:25:54,120
are are basically dead. 
But Keon Coleman, at least I can

1663
01:25:54,120 --> 01:25:57,600
squint and see Keon Coleman 
breaking out with the Bills. 

1664
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:00,360
He's the only guy on their 
roster who does what he does. 

1665
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,240
He's the only big guy. 
Like if you think about it. 

1666
01:26:04,200 --> 01:26:05,800
What were you getting for Keon 
Coleman? 

1667
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:09,120
Basically just to facilitate 
this trade where I get all of 

1668
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:13,040
Leonie's picks like it's. 
I would absolutely include Keon 

1669
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:13,840
Coleman. 
Me too. 

1670
01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:16,080
I. 
I did I I gave him Leeget and 

1671
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:19,120
McMillan and kept Coleman. 
I'd rather have McMillan. 

1672
01:26:19,280 --> 01:26:20,960
I think in the vacuum that 
Coleman. 

1673
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,320
Coleman. 
I'd rather Coleman, but it's 

1674
01:26:24,440 --> 01:26:25,600
it's. 
Closer than I don't have Coleman

1675
01:26:25,600 --> 01:26:27,280
cause Mcmillan's not even going 
to play, is he? 

1676
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:31,800
Yeah, well, I mean, the story 
about the Evans and Godwin are 

1677
01:26:31,800 --> 01:26:34,560
older and I think he's not, not 
bad. 

1678
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,200
I don't know if Coleman's good 
at all. 

1679
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:41,080
But Coleman could. 
Theoretically, and this is very 

1680
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:45,640
thin, but he could play his 
entire rookie contract 80% of 

1681
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,600
the snaps with Josh Allen. 
Like theoretically, yeah, but 

1682
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:50,360
that's. 
The guy you can go get that, you

1683
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,280
can get that with like go get 
Romeo Dobbs then, you know what 

1684
01:26:53,280 --> 01:26:56,200
I mean? 
Like that literally he's he's 

1685
01:26:56,200 --> 01:26:56,920
Romeo Dobbs. 
Oh. 

1686
01:26:57,320 --> 01:27:01,280
My God I'm serious, it is so 
over for Kia. 

1687
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:02,240
Coleman it's. 
Over. 

1688
01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:03,360
I don't know what they're gonna 
do. 

1689
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:06,280
Robbins is the only reason. 
Hire hire yards for a run than 

1690
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:07,960
Xavier worthy guys never forget 
that. 

1691
01:27:09,880 --> 01:27:13,000
Well, to be fair, yeah, to be 
fair, if I can make. 

1692
01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,920
Those 1 trade higher yards for a
run. 

1693
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:18,080
If I could, if I could torture 
this data, he had a 70 yard 

1694
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,400
touchdown where three defenders 
just fell down. 

1695
01:27:21,320 --> 01:27:23,520
Yeah, well, makes plays. 
Maybe David Wordy should try 

1696
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:28,840
that bro. 
I I don't know what the the 

1697
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:31,960
ceiling is for Coleman. 
I mean, I think more is ceiling 

1698
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:34,560
is right back. 
But the roof is pretty low, 

1699
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:36,160
right, right, right up of your 
head. 

1700
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,680
We're right back to last year 
with the Bills when they're 

1701
01:27:38,680 --> 01:27:42,000
bringing in MVS and Claypool and
just throwing darts. 

1702
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:44,520
Elijah Moore buy his money is 
more than that. 

1703
01:27:45,080 --> 01:27:48,920
But Palmer, that was part of Pat
Bean's tirade. 

1704
01:27:48,920 --> 01:27:52,040
Kind of was like, don't tell me 
I didn't Josh Palmer do anything

1705
01:27:52,040 --> 01:27:54,080
at wide receiver. 
I brought in Josh Palmer and 

1706
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,840
like, read that at Tyler Dunn's 
website and just yeah, do me. 

1707
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:57,600
Things. 
Right. 

1708
01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:59,240
Not the last. 
I've already very similar to 

1709
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,720
see. 
Higgins on a certain program so 

1710
01:28:01,840 --> 01:28:06,440
you know there's that the. 
Thing with Coleman is that he's 

1711
01:28:06,480 --> 01:28:10,680
like as a prospect we had these 
concerns about can he separate? 

1712
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:13,280
He's kind of a boom bust 
prospect because he, you know, 

1713
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:16,320
he's an early declare guy. 
There's some production, but 

1714
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,920
like how the production occurred
is fairly concerning. 

1715
01:28:19,920 --> 01:28:25,720
Like maybe he can't separate and
then he gets cast in this like 

1716
01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:29,040
big X receiver role, which you 
know, Matt Harmon has written 

1717
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,240
extensively on, like why? 
That's actually a terrible fit 

1718
01:28:31,240 --> 01:28:32,920
for him. 
And he should be kind of like a 

1719
01:28:32,920 --> 01:28:35,040
big slot type where you're 
trying to like get the ball to 

1720
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,800
in space. 
So he can, you know, because 

1721
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,320
he's not going to generate 
separation on his own, but maybe

1722
01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:40,560
he could be interesting after 
the catch. 

1723
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:43,320
So he's like the worst possible 
role for a skill set. 

1724
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,480
Then it like plays out that like
he's not separating and now he's

1725
01:28:47,480 --> 01:28:51,160
got back in that role again. 
I mean, he he couldn't even 

1726
01:28:51,160 --> 01:28:52,800
really pass Matt Collins last 
year. 

1727
01:28:52,800 --> 01:28:55,320
Like the yards per route runs 
one thing, but like, what about 

1728
01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:56,960
the routes? 
Like he was straight up in a 

1729
01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:59,160
committee with Matt Collins for 
most of last. 

1730
01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:01,040
Season and now Matt Collins is 
gone. 

1731
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,080
Now Matt Collins is gone, so 
there's there's upside for him 

1732
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,080
to consolidate the sacrificial X
role. 

1733
01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:12,520
But like he really has to show 
like this has to be a really 

1734
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,320
impressive jump, which we have 
gotten. 

1735
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:18,680
You know, DJ Shark came out of 
nowhere in his second season and

1736
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:21,240
was wasn't a really good ex 
receiver of that year. 

1737
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,040
It happens. 
We've invoked the. 

1738
01:29:23,360 --> 01:29:24,680
Name Jay. 
Shark. 

1739
01:29:24,920 --> 01:29:28,280
Was that's kind of where I'm at.
Like I think we're betting on 

1740
01:29:28,440 --> 01:29:31,160
something like that. 
Yeah. 

1741
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:34,760
Michael Gallup is is maybe, you 
know, you could get the Gallup 

1742
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,960
second season, maybe. 
Gallup could have been OK if 

1743
01:29:37,960 --> 01:29:43,400
they didn't trade for Cooper. 
And well, he tours ACL after I 

1744
01:29:43,400 --> 01:29:45,880
think he's his third season, he 
tours ACL so. 

1745
01:29:46,440 --> 01:29:49,240
I don't want 1000 yard season 
with Liam and Cooper. 

1746
01:29:49,680 --> 01:29:51,520
Time is getting tight. 
I don't want to take us down a 

1747
01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:53,240
bill's path any too much 
further. 

1748
01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:55,600
But Davis, you might like 
looking up there, literally. 

1749
01:29:55,880 --> 01:29:59,920
Any Bills pass catcher? 
Leading receivers per game Last 

1750
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:02,080
year, there might have been 10 
or 11 different players. 

1751
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:04,680
None of them was Kincaid. 
Where's the Bills slide, Mike? 

1752
01:30:04,680 --> 01:30:05,920
Are we? 
Am I missing that one? 

1753
01:30:06,200 --> 01:30:09,120
Next week, TuneIn, Next week, I 
didn't bring it. 

1754
01:30:09,480 --> 01:30:10,680
I didn't bring it to where? 
Are we at? 

1755
01:30:10,680 --> 01:30:12,000
I'll leave this one. 
Where are we at? 

1756
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,080
Where? 
Where is the where? 

1757
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:14,640
Are we at that's? 
Who you talking? 

1758
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:16,280
About where are we at? 
Good question. 

1759
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,760
Where where I'm at, where I'm at
is to me. 

1760
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:22,640
This is not my beautiful life 
here. 

1761
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:26,800
This, this could be our last 
thing and then we can do our 

1762
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,320
game at the end. 
I I just want this here. 

1763
01:30:30,320 --> 01:30:33,280
I'm just pretending like ETN and
Bigsby are immaterial and I'm 

1764
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,400
just taking Tooten and it's 
probably bad but I don't care. 

1765
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:38,800
I'm taking tooten as well me. 
Too, I'm taking tooten. 

1766
01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:41,280
I take some ETN. 
I, I haven't taken any Bigsby, 

1767
01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:46,200
but Tooten is, is definitely 
the, I don't think it's ETN. 

1768
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:48,840
I think I have with ETN. 
I feel like I have two outs. 

1769
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:53,080
It's like maybe he makes it work
on the Jags or maybe he makes it

1770
01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,920
work somewhere else, which I 
guess if he doesn't make it work

1771
01:30:56,920 --> 01:30:58,360
somewhere else, that's good for 
Bigsby too. 

1772
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:01,560
But I I've been mostly just 
clicking tune and a little bit 

1773
01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:03,880
of ETN. 
ETN could have the Leonard 

1774
01:31:03,880 --> 01:31:06,560
Fournette season where he gets 
cut by the Jaguars and then just

1775
01:31:06,560 --> 01:31:08,960
immediately becomes a running 
back. 100 different team. 

1776
01:31:09,880 --> 01:31:14,640
So Etni think I, I do think it's
pretty unlikely to be moved. 

1777
01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:17,000
I mean, he's an unrestricted 
free agent after the season. 

1778
01:31:17,000 --> 01:31:22,000
He's on the he, he's getting 
paid $6 million for a backup 

1779
01:31:22,000 --> 01:31:24,160
running back. 
He's like really good. 

1780
01:31:24,320 --> 01:31:26,640
If Etns are backup, that's 
pretty sick. 

1781
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:31,200
You're only paying him 6 mil. 
And if he leaves next year, he's

1782
01:31:31,200 --> 01:31:33,840
going to sign some somewhere and
you're going to get a comp pick 

1783
01:31:33,840 --> 01:31:37,080
probably, right. 
So there's no real reason to 

1784
01:31:37,120 --> 01:31:40,200
trade him like this. 
This is a team that's that's 

1785
01:31:40,200 --> 01:31:44,160
looking at this year as like an 
important year, you know, to get

1786
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,680
to hit the ground running. 
So Breece has Breece has two 

1787
01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:49,560
years on his deal, right? 
Or is he a free agent after the 

1788
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:52,000
year? 
He should be one more. 

1789
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:54,400
He's the same as James Cook. 
He should be one more. 

1790
01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:56,920
Because Etienne Etienne's 
playing on the 5th year option. 

1791
01:31:56,920 --> 01:31:58,160
That's why him and Breece are 
both. 

1792
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,360
One right, OK. 
So Breece is also free agent 

1793
01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:02,000
after the year. 
So that's that makes him less 

1794
01:32:02,000 --> 01:32:05,320
likely to get traded as well. 
Yeah, I don't know. 

1795
01:32:05,320 --> 01:32:08,200
I guess I'm I'm skeptical either
these guys gets moved, but I do 

1796
01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:12,320
think I still think ETN is fine 
where he's going because I mean 

1797
01:32:12,320 --> 01:32:16,400
for one thing like you're like 
as a contingent bet he's he's 

1798
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:17,040
OK. 
Well. 

1799
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,520
The thing is someone, someone 
from this backfield, I think, I 

1800
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:24,080
mean, maybe it's such an ugly 
split that it it's muted, but 

1801
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:26,600
this backfield is going to have 
points. 

1802
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:28,560
It's going to be a good offense.
They're probably going to play 

1803
01:32:28,560 --> 01:32:32,000
at a high pace. 
And we've seen Cohen, you have 

1804
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:35,960
last year at times strong value 
for both Irving and White. 

1805
01:32:36,520 --> 01:32:40,680
So right, there's going to be 
value here that's just and none 

1806
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:41,880
of them. 
Each end is currently the 

1807
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:46,240
highest ADP at 120, so some. 
That is a little higher than I 

1808
01:32:46,240 --> 01:32:49,080
would like, but. 
I would just be surprised if 

1809
01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:54,080
none of these guys wind up being
really good clicks and I Bigsby 

1810
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:57,760
is the one that I think is the 
least interesting just because 

1811
01:32:57,760 --> 01:33:00,600
he doesn't really. 
I agree catch passes so I'm I'm 

1812
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:04,240
willing to bet on one of VTN or 
Tooten being being a big hit. 

1813
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:10,760
You're scoping at his PFF 
receiver grade of 4% last year, 

1814
01:33:10,760 --> 01:33:12,040
Bigsby. 
Tough. 

1815
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,480
All right, I don't. 
Think he ran well last year I. 

1816
01:33:14,480 --> 01:33:16,400
Don't think he's any good. 
I don't really. 

1817
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,400
I think he's like the most like 
whatever player people people 

1818
01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:22,080
feel strongly about him. 
I I do not. 

1819
01:33:22,360 --> 01:33:27,440
He was an efficient runner last 
season, but I just this is bad. 

1820
01:33:28,120 --> 01:33:31,120
I don't want to deal with the RB
threes like, you know, like give

1821
01:33:31,120 --> 01:33:33,720
me the I want the RB1 and the 
RB2 on a depth chart. 

1822
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:37,400
Taking the RB threes, you get so
much downside. 

1823
01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:41,200
There's so much risk of a zero. 
And then the upside is that you 

1824
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,200
have a handcuff, which I can 
find elsewhere. 

1825
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:46,800
There's handcuffs available 
where you would take Bixby. 

1826
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:52,440
So if something changed and you 
like DTN did get traded, then 

1827
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,200
big speed I'd be I'd be fine 
with cuz I do think he's a 

1828
01:33:55,200 --> 01:33:57,720
pretty, I mean last year was 
impressive in terms of the 

1829
01:33:57,720 --> 01:34:01,520
rushing efficiency. 
Sure. 

1830
01:34:02,840 --> 01:34:07,280
And now last call Davis running 
out the door last week 

1831
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,760
throughout the name of Rhonda 
Gadsden I. 

1832
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,880
Sure did. 
I jumped in with Brashard Smith.

1833
01:34:12,880 --> 01:34:17,880
Jacob went scrambling for Deonte
Johnson, now a Brown, and Pat 

1834
01:34:17,880 --> 01:34:21,920
with Pat Bryant, of course. 
Right, He would pick a Pat I 

1835
01:34:21,920 --> 01:34:23,520
shouldn't. 
I shouldn't get to go first. 

1836
01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,920
I've got 2 names only that I 
like this week so I'll see if 

1837
01:34:26,920 --> 01:34:31,400
you guys snipe them both. 
I'll I'll jump in and do 1. 

1838
01:34:31,400 --> 01:34:35,360
I did a rant yesterday on best 
ball breakfast about Woody 

1839
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:40,720
Marks, who I don't like as a 
prospect but is one of these 

1840
01:34:40,720 --> 01:34:45,320
clear cut handcuffs I think. 
I mean, maybe he's bad enough to

1841
01:34:45,720 --> 01:34:47,960
have them trade up for him and 
still not be able to lock down 

1842
01:34:47,960 --> 01:34:50,600
the number 2 roll. 
But I think he you know, it's 

1843
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:53,640
kind of it's Jaden blue esque in
that, you know, he's kind of a 

1844
01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:57,280
passing down back. 
It's it's less ambiguous. 

1845
01:34:57,280 --> 01:35:00,360
This is more of a contingent 
type of bet for any like major 

1846
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:05,760
upside. 
But Nixon is what I think 29 and

1847
01:35:06,080 --> 01:35:10,960
you've got the team trading up 
for Marx really does mean 

1848
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:13,520
something to me. 
Like this is this isn't a fifth 

1849
01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:15,920
round pick. 
This is a guy that looks more 

1850
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:18,920
locked in for a role and he's 
completely free. 

1851
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:22,040
You can just sit there. 
They they traded a day a day two

1852
01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:23,640
pick for a day three running 
back. 

1853
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:25,960
It's crazy. 
It's absolutely crazy. 

1854
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:27,920
They trade away a third round 
pick to go up and get them. 

1855
01:35:27,920 --> 01:35:30,920
It's it's yeah, I don't but but 
they like them. 

1856
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,680
Clearly you don't do that if 
you're not going to have them 

1857
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:34,400
it. 
Has to work. 

1858
01:35:34,760 --> 01:35:36,400
It has to work. 
Yeah, OK. 

1859
01:35:37,000 --> 01:35:38,480
All right, I'm prepared to 
cheat. 

1860
01:35:40,480 --> 01:35:44,520
I'm going to take Tyler Shuck. 
Fuck God damn it. 

1861
01:35:49,000 --> 01:35:51,920
Got escape to where the grift is
going, not where the grift. 

1862
01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:55,280
Is going Jacob fucking damn it, 
I was so ready. 

1863
01:35:56,360 --> 01:35:59,200
That was a great pick. 
I, I had a soul read that that 

1864
01:35:59,200 --> 01:36:00,840
was going to be who Jacob 
wanted. 

1865
01:36:01,640 --> 01:36:07,520
So I will be I will be taking 
Tyler Shock at the as my my 5.6 

1866
01:36:07,520 --> 01:36:10,720
pick. 
Jacob, you want to go or I'll 

1867
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:12,640
go. 
Well, I can't now I got to 

1868
01:36:12,640 --> 01:36:13,600
figure out who the hell I'm 
picking. 

1869
01:36:13,920 --> 01:36:19,200
I'll take Terrence Ferguson. 
It's pretty you you win style 

1870
01:36:19,200 --> 01:36:21,880
points for that one. 
I mean, these rookie drafts are 

1871
01:36:21,880 --> 01:36:26,200
you do tight end rich in the 
third round if you can, if you 

1872
01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,320
don't end up with Loveland or 
Warren, Man Arroyo and Fannin 

1873
01:36:29,320 --> 01:36:32,440
and Ferguson are all fun. 
Mason, Taylor, even. 

1874
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:41,800
They're all fun. 
All right, well, this I believe 

1875
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,440
the specifics of this game is 
it's, it's the week 15 through 

1876
01:36:44,440 --> 01:36:46,600
17 optimal lineup. 
Is that correct? 

1877
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:50,080
Yes, I don't think I. 
Don't think we're actually, I 

1878
01:36:50,080 --> 01:36:52,440
don't think we've actually 
landed on a rule set, but sure. 

1879
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:53,880
I think that's what we're doing,
yeah. 

1880
01:36:53,880 --> 01:36:57,360
It's like best ball. 
So I was definitely wanted 

1881
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:02,480
shocked because the quarterback 
situation is getting dire across

1882
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:04,560
the board. 
We're. 

1883
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:06,800
The Browns, I don't think, I 
don't think that this, that's 

1884
01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,240
what I'm Cohen. 
I don't think this guy's 

1885
01:37:08,280 --> 01:37:10,280
flickable in basketball because 
I don't think he's going to be 

1886
01:37:10,280 --> 01:37:12,480
starting for enough the season 
to be this game. 

1887
01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,320
Every time we do this game, it 
becomes increasing less. 

1888
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:17,360
Relevant, I do think. 
I do think he's going to be 

1889
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:20,160
starting in the money weeks. 
So that. 

1890
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:23,840
Particular game, so I don't 
think Mr. Shiner Sanders. 

1891
01:37:24,000 --> 01:37:27,560
Oh no. 
I think, I think that is a 

1892
01:37:27,560 --> 01:37:30,040
totally applicable to this game.
I think. 

1893
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,200
I think it's applicable to the 
people watching as well. 

1894
01:37:32,960 --> 01:37:35,920
I I, I don't think it is, but 
it's a click of the game for 

1895
01:37:35,960 --> 01:37:36,960
sure. 
It's what we're doing, the 

1896
01:37:36,960 --> 01:37:38,240
point. 
Of the game and just and the 

1897
01:37:38,240 --> 01:37:39,640
game becomes the point in and 
of. 

1898
01:37:39,640 --> 01:37:41,200
Itself, the game becomes the 
point, right? 

1899
01:37:42,240 --> 01:37:44,800
It's supposed to be identifying 
last round picks that are good 

1900
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,320
in a. 
But a measure becomes a target. 

1901
01:37:46,320 --> 01:37:47,880
It ceases to become a good 
measure. 

1902
01:37:48,560 --> 01:37:51,320
That's right. 
I I do expect, I do expect from 

1903
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:53,840
December to care about these 
rosters and maybe I'll be the 

1904
01:37:53,840 --> 01:37:56,840
only one, but I'll be looking to
see what's happening here. 

1905
01:37:56,840 --> 01:38:01,320
Is it Deonte Johnson? 
Yeah, listen, if, if, if this is

1906
01:38:01,360 --> 01:38:04,240
if this is our collective 
biggest sweat, then. 

1907
01:38:05,240 --> 01:38:06,800
This full. 
Cast This full cast is gonna be 

1908
01:38:06,800 --> 01:38:08,240
a very fun watch. 
That's that's. 

1909
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:14,200
How did we let, how did we let 
Jacob get Jack Bash? 

1910
01:38:14,240 --> 01:38:16,200
I mean, what a what a leg up 
this has. 

1911
01:38:16,640 --> 01:38:19,720
Here, that was first thing bro. 
I took. 

1912
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,960
That's right, Allen Junior. 
Dude, what's wrong with me? 

1913
01:38:23,720 --> 01:38:25,080
I'm pretty happy with my Pat 
Bryant pick and. 

1914
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,320
The RJ Harvey. 
And Jackson Dart. 

1915
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:28,600
Jackson Dart. 
Pretty good. 

1916
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:29,040
Pretty. 
Good. 

1917
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:30,600
Oh, the dart. 
Pick pretty good as well. 

1918
01:38:31,080 --> 01:38:33,360
Yeah, yeah. 
I'm excited to hear what you 

1919
01:38:33,360 --> 01:38:35,720
guys have coming up and then to 
tell you what I have coming up. 

1920
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:44,160
Swirl cast is in 15 minutes. 
Also have a new video up on my 

1921
01:38:44,160 --> 01:38:47,000
YouTube channel. 
Trying trying some shorter form,

1922
01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:50,560
more focused content talking 
about the range of outcomes for 

1923
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:54,840
Jonathan Taylor in 2025. 
So I would appreciate you 

1924
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:56,520
watching that, but you guys can 
hang out with. 

1925
01:38:56,520 --> 01:39:00,640
Me, I, I I will make sure to 
catch that Colt's chasing. 

1926
01:39:00,640 --> 01:39:03,400
Let's go. 
Don't don't think, don't think 

1927
01:39:03,400 --> 01:39:05,160
you're going to appreciate my my
viewpoint. 

1928
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:08,400
But out of Daniel, out of Daniel
Jones talk, fine, but. 

1929
01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:12,200
I mean, I hope so. 
Hope, hope we get 17 games. 

1930
01:39:13,680 --> 01:39:23,440
That's so dark. 
Anyway, for me, you can't think 

1931
01:39:23,440 --> 01:39:26,640
about thinking we're done 
dynasty content for the time 

1932
01:39:26,640 --> 01:39:27,920
being. 
I mean, I'll keep updating the 

1933
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:31,360
ranks, of course, but the rookie
stuff is pretty much over. 

1934
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,520
We did a big mailbag. 
We did the rookie draft 

1935
01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:37,240
walkthrough, all the rookie 
rankings in several different 

1936
01:39:37,240 --> 01:39:40,480
formats. 
So now we're going to be 

1937
01:39:40,480 --> 01:39:42,320
transitioning to to basketball 
season. 

1938
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:46,800
So I'll have the the ranks up. 
I'll have some articles up and 

1939
01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:50,240
whatever else people come in and
request, but hope you guys have 

1940
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,520
enjoyed all the dynasty con and 
if you still have dynasty rookie

1941
01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:56,600
drafts, there's just a massive 
archive of stuff from the last 

1942
01:39:56,600 --> 01:40:00,360
month or so on the site. 
So good, Pat. 

1943
01:40:00,520 --> 01:40:04,160
Got underdog rankings, 
DraftKings rankings, all the all

1944
01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:06,440
the usual stuff. 
Check out the sidekick at 

1945
01:40:06,960 --> 01:40:10,760
legendaryupside.com/sidekick for
your dynamic rankings needs. 

1946
01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:14,520
And yeah, Matt Irby's going to 
have some articles out on the 

1947
01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:19,040
site very soon, so look for 
those I'm going to do. 

1948
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,640
We're doing a little long 
weekend here in in Cabo for the 

1949
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:26,320
next few days, so not nice. 
Too much writing for me this 

1950
01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:28,880
week, but I'll be getting back 
at it next week. 

1951
01:40:29,160 --> 01:40:31,080
Are you the Tony Romo or the 
Jessica Simpson? 

1952
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,800
What is that? 
What does that mean? 

1953
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:37,920
Remember when they went to Cabo 
during? 

1954
01:40:37,920 --> 01:40:39,600
Like the four playoff game the 
week before. 

1955
01:40:39,600 --> 01:40:40,960
Playoff game? 
What are these roles? 

1956
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:44,200
Am I the It's just am I male or 
female? 

1957
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:49,160
What are you asking me? 
Are you the one for going work 

1958
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,000
to drag your? 
Partner, are you the one 

1959
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,680
distracting who? 
Who's the distractor? 

1960
01:40:54,680 --> 01:40:56,240
And who's the distractor? 
I suppose. 

1961
01:40:56,480 --> 01:40:59,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
The Yoko and the John Lennon. 

1962
01:41:00,160 --> 01:41:01,840
I suppose I'm the Romo, you 
know? 

1963
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,040
The the I remember talking to. 
We've got a site to run over 

1964
01:41:04,040 --> 01:41:06,280
here, you know. 
One of the Jacob, one of the 

1965
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:10,080
Buffalo Sabres at the time about
that he brought up like, what do

1966
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,320
you think of Tony Romo going on 
vacation this week? 

1967
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,160
And you know, Bulldog and I are 
both like, you know, it's fine. 

1968
01:41:15,160 --> 01:41:16,760
This is right. 
He he's it's a bye week. 

1969
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,520
No problem. 
And and the the player was 

1970
01:41:20,520 --> 01:41:22,320
furious. 
The player was furious. 

1971
01:41:22,320 --> 01:41:24,080
How was Tyler not the one who 
asked that? 

1972
01:41:24,840 --> 01:41:29,960
Yeah, Tyler, where are you, man?
Did not respect it. 

1973
01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:34,760
Come on in Jacob's honor you. 
Snap answer Jessica Simpson. 

1974
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,520
Jacob's honor for the Leafs. 
I've got my Felix pot van stick.

1975
01:41:41,960 --> 01:41:43,840
Just quickly I'll mention what 
am I up to? 

1976
01:41:44,440 --> 01:41:48,440
A great thrill has just come 
upon me and that is that while 

1977
01:41:48,440 --> 01:41:51,480
we've been talking, a riding 
lawnmower has been delivered to 

1978
01:41:51,480 --> 01:41:53,840
my house. 
Oh, that's big. 

1979
01:41:54,160 --> 01:41:55,280
That's. 
That is so big. 

1980
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:59,920
I've never, I've never had one, 
but the next thing I'm going to 

1981
01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:03,960
do is go out and unpack it. 
And and you're then going to 

1982
01:42:04,680 --> 01:42:06,800
have the guy Leone pays to cut 
his grass come over. 

1983
01:42:06,960 --> 01:42:10,520
Is that the next? 
We've we've moved on. 

1984
01:42:10,720 --> 01:42:12,640
I've got teenagers we're going 
to ride around instead. 

1985
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:14,000
We're going to cut the grass 
ourselves. 

1986
01:42:14,680 --> 01:42:15,440
Nice. 
Beautiful. 

1987
01:42:16,440 --> 01:42:17,920
Thank you, everybody. 
Thanks for watching and 

1988
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:19,320
listening. 
We'll see you next week here on 

1989
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:20,600
ADP chasing. 
Goodbye Well. 

1990
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:22,800
Hang on, I got to get the thing.
Out. 

1991
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:25,320
Oh boy. 
But theoretically, we will. 

1992
01:42:25,320 --> 01:42:26,920
Be theoretically. 
Theoretically. 

1993
01:42:26,920 --> 01:42:29,880
I mean, that was a great outro. 
The professionalism of Show up 

1994
01:42:29,880 --> 01:42:31,960
is unmatched. 
Why did Pete walk in, by the 

1995
01:42:31,960 --> 01:42:32,840
way? 
Best ball breakfast? 

1996
01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:34,680
Because to get the banner off, 
he couldn't get the. 

1997
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:36,040
I couldn't figure out what the 
banner was. 

1998
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,520
I thought it was in his thing. 
And so I switched his back and 

1999
01:42:38,520 --> 01:42:41,680
I'm sure that was wrong. 
So Pete came in and yeah, no, 

2000
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:42,600
we're live. 
Yeah, OK. 

2001
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:43,040
Later.