1 00:00:01,680 --> 00:00:05,280 We're through 12 weeks of the NFL season and we've got the 2 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,600 Thanksgiving slates ahead of us, so we'll do a deep dive into all 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,160 of the players that you might not normally be thinking about 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:17,960 as we get in the weeds on these Thanksgiving slates. 5 00:00:18,080 --> 00:00:28,160 This is stat chasing. Pat Fryer, Helmo Anita. 6 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,920 Hand Job. Fix your sight, Jamar. 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,080 Alpha. Play Chase. 8 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:38,640 You can't handle the heat. It looks like we're finally at 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:39,360 this point. You're right. 10 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:50,720 Good evening, Draco. How are you doing tonight? 11 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:57,360 I'm doing good, doing good. I'm thankful, thankful for 12 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:02,720 football and that we have it on on Thanksgiving. 13 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:08,040 So I I guess guess that's how I'm feeling. 14 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,720 I I too am thankful. I'm looking forward to a full 15 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:17,720 day of lots and lots of DFS. We've got the three Showdown 16 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,840 slates, which are probably, yeah, that's the format. 17 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:28,120 Then we have the Thanksgiving short three-game slate. 18 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,880 So that is always a really fun one. 19 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,760 Kind of shares some principles with Showdown because you do get 20 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:40,200 into duplication stuff with a slate that short where, where 21 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,000 you can't end up with duplicated line UPS where it's pretty hard 22 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,720 and and classic typically. So I think tonight we'll we'll 23 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:50,000 probably have a slightly different show than we typically 24 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:51,800 do. We're we're probably going to 25 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,160 focus more on some of the fringier players that you 26 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:01,680 normally would not be playing in weekly contests really 27 00:02:01,680 --> 00:02:05,360 specifically with the framing of thinking through the 28 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:10,600 Thanksgiving slate of games. So with that, I think we should 29 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,920 go ahead and get into the quarterback chart. 30 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,960 Yeah, be helpful if I added to the stage, wouldn't it? 31 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,400 Yeah, I mean, this is my third year and doing a start chasing 32 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:29,360 and I really like start chasing and but in in week 13 and I'm 33 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,040 I'm thankful that Thanksgiving goes a reason to change it up a 34 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:36,720 little bit. Yeah, yeah, definitely it. 35 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:40,480 I mean, I feel like we were kind of getting to the point where it 36 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,840 felt like every week is like, all right, we've kind of already 37 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,680 talked about a lot of these situations. 38 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,000 And yes, there are some new situations that emerge where, 39 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:49,960 you know, we end up talking about those. 40 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,280 But it it just feels like there's a lot of the same and 41 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:56,880 much less new than we get into the season. 42 00:02:57,120 --> 00:03:00,800 So it'll be it'll be refreshing. One thing that I don't think 43 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:04,800 will be refreshing for our listeners is we need to talk 44 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:09,720 about the viability of Cooper Rush and Tommy DeVito and or 45 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,520 Drew Lock. You'll notice that Tommy DeVito 46 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:17,280 is not on the chart because we don't know if he's even gonna 47 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:20,120 play. He he very well could be injured 48 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,400 and out. So I didn't know if we should be 49 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,760 listening Tommy DeVito or listening Drew Lock. 50 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,720 Definitely a lot of ambiguity there, but let's start with 51 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,800 Cooper Rush. He's a pretty cheap quarterback 52 00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:36,200 on the Thanksgiving slate. Draco, what are your thoughts 53 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:42,320 about playing Cooper Rush? So, and Thanksgiving slate 54 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:44,520 specifically. So, so that's, that's a tree 55 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:46,240 gamer. So you have 6 quarterbacks in 56 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:50,160 total. And I guess that the thing that 57 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:55,120 that stands out to me is that for for such a short slate and 58 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:00,280 the people are going to laugh about the the veto versus Cooper 59 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:03,640 rush matchup, but I think we actually do have some pretty 60 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:07,400 strong options. Like Jared Goff is efficient, 61 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:12,280 Chu Tuga Valo is efficient. We've talked many times about 62 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:16,600 how strong and Jordan Love is and GPPS, I can imagine him 63 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:18,880 being strong. On the ownership front, we've 64 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,079 got Caleb Williams, who kind of impressed over the weekend. 65 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:28,680 And my kind of sense is that you don't really have to play those 66 00:04:28,680 --> 00:04:34,360 guys. I, I, I, I think they're 67 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,760 probably more interesting in, in like a showdown context, which 68 00:04:37,840 --> 00:04:41,160 I'm, I'm less knowledgeable about, but I, I think more about 69 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:45,120 them being like probably on their own and, and showdown. 70 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:53,120 But it feels really hard for me to to get in on those guys when, 71 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:57,720 when you have some good QB plays, like just if, if, if you 72 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,040 if you let me rattle off the the jersey jars for 10th. 73 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:07,040 So Jared Goff is 9.0 and Chua took about a low of 7.9, Jordan 74 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:11,040 low of 7.5 and then Kale Williams a 6.3. 75 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:15,800 But I'm actually I'm curious what and I'm going to look that 76 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:19,480 up, what his has been in the last couple of games, whereas 77 00:05:19,560 --> 00:05:25,520 the other guys are are much more in the in the weaker range. 78 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:30,760 Yeah, I mean, I would it's so just looking at the pricing for 79 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:35,360 quarterbacks, Tommy DeVito and Cooper Rush are 4500 and 4800 80 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,640 respectively on the Thanksgiving three-game slate over on 81 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,760 DraftKings. And then the most expensive 82 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:47,160 quarterback is Goff at 6500. So you can save $2000 if you go 83 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:49,240 all the way down to Tommy DeVito, which is not 84 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:51,840 significant. Right. 85 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,520 That that seems like a tight, like a tight range of pricing, 86 00:05:56,160 --> 00:06:00,200 like most expensive, the least expensive starting QB only a 87 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:05,360 range of 2000 and then actually a pretty big gulf in terms of 88 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:07,240 quality. Yeah. 89 00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:12,360 I mean, really the I think what it's going to come down to is 90 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,080 what the ownership ends up being on Tommy DeVito and Cooper Rush, 91 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:21,680 because I don't I don't really think that, you know, if they're 92 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:25,440 coming in super under owned, which they they certainly could, 93 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:27,480 you know, like you're saying, I I don't think people are going 94 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,440 to be terribly excited to play them. 95 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,240 So if they do come in really under owned, I think that's a 96 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:35,840 pretty good spot. We don't, you know, we don't 97 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:39,880 have projections out yet, so we can't can't say like how far 98 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:43,040 apart Goff is going to be compared to those guys. 99 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,760 I guess that Cooper Rush and Tommy DeVito probably come in 100 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:51,080 around like anywhere between 13 to 15 fantasy points for their 101 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,640 projection and you're. Here's the other thing, Kayla 102 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:59,280 Williams is 5300. So the $800 difference between 103 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:03,280 Kayla Williams and unlike Cooper Rush, but I, I could, I could 104 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,280 almost see it being like super heavy on Kelly Williams and and 105 00:07:08,280 --> 00:07:13,520 then also Jordan Love, who's $200 cheaper than Jared Goff and 106 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:18,720 has that kind of GPP appeal. Yeah, I, I mean, I definitely 107 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,800 think that's what the field is going to want to do as well. 108 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:26,360 I I'm thinking that we're going to have Cooper Rush and Tommy 109 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,520 DeVito end up being pretty good spots. 110 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,960 You know, you do get them right now. 111 00:07:32,960 --> 00:07:34,720 There's there's the two Dome games. 112 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:39,080 So really the only, the only non Dome game is Miami Green Bay. 113 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,240 And I haven't I haven't checked to see what the weather 114 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,040 situation is there, but you do benefit from the other two games 115 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,520 being in a Dome. I just think that if you're 116 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,480 gonna end up with a super low owned game, and it's not like 117 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,000 the Dallas defense or the Giants defense have been particularly 118 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,840 good. Dallas defense with a little bit 119 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:01,720 of a better showing as they're getting healthier against the 120 00:08:01,720 --> 00:08:06,920 commanders this past week. But I mean, Cooper Rush is 121 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:10,680 getting significant like he he's getting volume, you know, So 122 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:16,040 I'm, I'm just wondering like. What's funny about Cooper Rush 123 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:21,040 is that his efficiency actually isn't that much worse than than 124 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:25,040 Dak Prescott's was. So he's at 5.4, just two yards 125 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:30,400 per tenths, where Dak Prescott was at just 6.4, which is pretty 126 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,840 funny. Yeah, I mean, not not the best 127 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,559 season for Dak Prescott or the Cowboys at large, but I mean, if 128 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:43,000 you look at Cooper Rush's last two games, the games where he he 129 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:47,600 you know, or throw, throwing Philly out more or less. 130 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:52,840 But so if you look at the last two, he had 61 attempts in Week 131 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,120 11, then he gets 34 attempts in Week 12. 132 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:03,200 So the, I mean, 61 attempts, like I don't think you're going 133 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:07,440 to get that very often. They were trailing, you know, 134 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:10,120 the whole game there. And then against Washington it 135 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,520 was much closer. So you don't you don't get quite 136 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:16,760 as high. But I it's just like to me, it's 137 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:20,320 not a foregone conclusion that they won't just end up going out 138 00:09:20,320 --> 00:09:22,640 there and passing. I really do think it probably 139 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:24,680 depends on the giants pushing them though. 140 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,280 But again, if you're gonna get these this whole game 141 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:32,080 environment to kind of so. The the the total on that game 142 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:39,840 is 38 1/2 and and that's it. The Giants, Cowboys and the the 143 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:44,560 Bears in line is 48 1/2, and then Dolphins and Packers it's 144 00:09:44,560 --> 00:09:49,960 47 1/2. Yeah, I mean, I that, that 145 00:09:49,960 --> 00:09:52,760 certainly makes sense. I just when you, when you have 146 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,840 like these really small slates, if it, if it comes in where 147 00:09:55,840 --> 00:10:00,240 you're going to get like, you know, sub 10% ownership on these 148 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:03,920 quarterbacks, that's pretty hard when there's only only 6 149 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,600 quarterbacks on the slate, right? 150 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,360 So I don't know that's. So they're, they're kind of I, I 151 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:15,360 guess the base, the base rate ownership on the quarterbacks is 152 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,840 like 6 quarterbacks. I imagine there it's, it's, 153 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:25,360 they'd all be 16.7. And so I mean, somebody like 154 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:29,000 maybe Chua goes way over, but somebody like that where maybe 155 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:32,560 you're getting about 12% or something like that seems more 156 00:10:32,560 --> 00:10:37,240 interesting to me down here. Those guys are 5 for example. 157 00:10:38,040 --> 00:10:41,240 Yeah, I mean, I I think if anyone goes way over, it's 158 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:45,600 likely going to be Caleb Williams just because he like 159 00:10:45,600 --> 00:10:48,000 you said, he's not that far price removed. 160 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:52,120 He's only he's 800 from Tommy DeVito, 500 up from Cooper Rush. 161 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,600 He should project better than both of them and he's going to 162 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,800 be in probably like the the game script where people can tell 163 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,640 themselves, you know, the the most fun story. 164 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:05,840 And if you look at where Caleb's out on the chart like he has, he 165 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:07,960 has been improving over the last couple weeks. 166 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:12,160 He's almost up to, you know, the average for expected fantasy 167 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:16,880 points from passing. He has been more efficient these 168 00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:20,440 last couple weeks as well, but his season long efficiency is 169 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:26,360 kind of holding him back. Here, Yeah, so sin Sam since in 170 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:30,040 the last two weeks he's at 7.5 yards per attempt adjusted yards 171 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:32,920 per 10th and then 8.1 adjusted yards per attempt. 172 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:37,240 He had 320 air yards in the last game. 173 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:42,600 So good, so good volume. And then he he he he definitely 174 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:47,360 made some wild shows. The other the other thing I want 175 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:52,720 to ask you, are you playing? I need the, I need the the the 176 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,960 underdog. I am not. 177 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,160 I don't do anything That's under 12 people on underdog, under 12 178 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:00,680 drafters. OK. 179 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,120 OK. So do you do? 180 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:05,720 I guess the other thing that strikes me, and this is 181 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,320 something I kind of discovered playing when I was playing those 182 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:13,120 kind of shorter slates, is that it's almost like a last man out 183 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:17,520 thing at a quarterback where you just try and put off taking a 184 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:20,320 quarterback as long as you possibly can. 185 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:26,520 And I imagine that that becomes even more rare, even more kind 186 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:31,680 of pronounced in in this where where there's actually 66 187 00:12:31,680 --> 00:12:34,440 options. Yeah, in general, I would. 188 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,120 I would think that's probably the way to attack this slate. 189 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,280 You really don't want to give up the difference in projection 190 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:47,360 from some of the premium skill position pieces compared to, you 191 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:49,440 know, the the difference in projection from quarterback is 192 00:12:49,440 --> 00:12:52,800 likely just going to be a lot smaller than the difference in 193 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:56,280 having to go from say like a David Montgomery, assuming that 194 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:59,960 he's active down to like an Emmanuel Wilson or something, 195 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:04,000 which I I believe is there Emmanuel Wilson injury as well, 196 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,200 I want to say. And. 197 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:27,360 So looking at RotoWire, I don't think so. 198 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:35,440 OK, I just saw in the in the game I saw that they got 10 199 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:40,040 snaps for Chris Brooks, which seemed like a lot to me. 200 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:45,200 Emmanuel Wilson only with 11 4/4 attempts for Chris Brooks too. 201 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,480 We can we can save this for the running back charts, but. 202 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,640 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So actually, I think I think 203 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,120 we're good to move, to move on from this chart. 204 00:13:58,680 --> 00:14:00,480 Yeah, let's let's hit to running backs. 205 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,400 And then I'll, I'll zoom out here. 206 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:15,920 And so I had it, I, I had my running back chart kind of 207 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:24,160 filtered down to, to just the guys playing on the Thanksgiving 208 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:29,960 sites. So I guess the big the big 209 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:34,360 notable thing is that at least as far as the last game went, 210 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:38,320 there's no there's no you have to get all the way down to a 211 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:44,160 Chan or Josh Jacobs to get through to the true bell cows 212 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,640 here. And so there's not going to be 213 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:53,600 any kind of volume kings. It's kind of efficiency like 214 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:58,040 Josh Jacobs. He he he he excels in the run 215 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:02,800 through mother fuckers face and and he's been playing well. 216 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,800 So he's he's probably, I don't know him a Chan are probably 217 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,520 like the the favorite picks, the the top expected picks. 218 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,320 And then the other, the other piece that that's interesting is 219 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:20,920 so Tyron Tracy appeared to get benched or not benched. 220 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:26,320 I I think benched is probably the wrong way to put it And but 221 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:30,640 yeah, yeah, actually you know what benched where he was not on 222 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:35,800 the field for 62% of the snaps. Yeah, I'm. 223 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:39,040 I'm not sure why that was. I don't know if he. 224 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:42,720 I think he had like some fumbles and he had, he had the big 225 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,520 fumble last week and they asked like, hey, are are you, are you 226 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,440 going to limp this guy? And then, and then he had he had 227 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,520 another fumble. Got it. 228 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:59,760 So I mean, that makes singletary pretty interesting to me. 229 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:04,160 Then you get Singletary against a bad Cowboys run defense and 230 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:07,480 and we know, I mean, we know that Singletary can consolidate 231 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:13,680 a lot of work, so. So I guess the problem is that 232 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:19,120 it it, it became a true like committee where Eric Ray played 233 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,520 a bunch as well. God. 234 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:29,040 So I, I don't know, I don't think that's like ground 235 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:33,280 breaking or anything, but that, that, that that's something 236 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:40,320 where so if, if I, if I just quote in, in kind of useful in 237 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:43,040 useful snaps. So that's Russia attempts plus 238 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,120 routes. These three guys, they combine 239 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,760 for 70% of snaps and I I think the rest is, is blocking. 240 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:56,920 But 28% for Tyrone Tracy, 23% for Devon Singletary, 18% for 241 00:16:56,920 --> 00:17:01,160 Eric Gray. That that just does kind of 242 00:17:01,160 --> 00:17:05,240 strike me as as like, I guess the thing about Tracy still had 243 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:11,240 like a 12.8 expected points. Yeah, I'm, I'm looking at it 244 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,359 here and it it looks, I mean, Tracy still got the majority of 245 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,359 the carries. He got, you know, 99 rush 246 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,400 attempts here, only one for Eric Gray, only two for Devin 247 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:27,079 Singletary. So I, I wonder if it is really 248 00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:32,680 just like a, you know, one game type of thing where you know, it 249 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,640 was only, hey, we're going to punish you for fumbling, but 250 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,200 you're still going to be the lead guy. 251 00:17:37,960 --> 00:17:42,280 Because it doesn't appear that they have a ton of confidence in 252 00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:46,320 Devin Singletary or Eric Gray to then take on a big workload if 253 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,200 they're benching Tyrone Tracy, just based on what we saw last. 254 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,680 Game, right? Most of the work that he lost 255 00:17:51,680 --> 00:17:56,120 was kind of was route running, which is kind of interesting, 256 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,400 which. It might, I mean, it might have 257 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:04,720 been, you know, partially that they were down so much in the 258 00:18:04,720 --> 00:18:06,280 game. So it was like there weren't 259 00:18:06,640 --> 00:18:09,520 lots of carries to be had it. It was mostly just. 260 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:16,200 Right, right. And and they, I, I guess they 261 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:19,960 didn't want, they, they, they didn't want to lean on him for 262 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:25,440 the, for the receiving work. Yeah, that is interesting. 263 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:31,400 Yeah, so we we certainly have some added ambiguity to the the 264 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,960 Giants backfield that we normally wouldn't have the the 265 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,000 Packers backfield. Also with a little ambiguity in 266 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,040 the second guy between either Emmanuel Wilson or Chris Brooks, 267 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:47,400 both of you know, they both got snaps, both got attempts, Chris 268 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,600 Brooks with four carries, so. So the, the only thing about the 269 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:57,640 the only thing I wonder about the the Green Bay kind of split 270 00:18:58,800 --> 00:19:04,240 is so they they did go up quite a bit or not a bit. 271 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,760 They had the game in hand and for a lot of the snaps. 272 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:12,840 And then I do wonder if that's when they started like working 273 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:18,280 in the other rare like Chris Brookson, etcetera. 274 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,080 Yeah, the one, the one that I actually think is probably the 275 00:19:22,080 --> 00:19:25,320 most actionable out of the entire slate is Jalen Wright. 276 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:31,640 Most are only saw two attempts and Jalen Wright got up to seven 277 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,800 again. They were really ahead against 278 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,760 the Patriots, right? They were blowing them out. 279 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,640 They had the backups in right? They did have the backups in. 280 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,560 But they were using Jalen Wright before the backups were in. 281 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:47,720 He was he was getting some touches prior to them sitting 282 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:53,040 all of the starters. And Mostert has really like, let 283 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:57,160 me let me pull up Mostert's snap specifically here 'cause it does 284 00:19:57,160 --> 00:20:01,280 feel like he is just being used less and less as the season 285 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:09,200 progresses here. Yeah, he got he actually got a 286 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,320 decent number of snaps, his highest snaps in four weeks this 287 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,080 last week. But I'm wondering if that was. 288 00:20:18,360 --> 00:20:22,800 If that was just a, you know, side effect of them being so far 289 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:26,480 ahead, let me pull up right here. 290 00:20:36,680 --> 00:20:38,520 Yeah. And right now, while right saw 291 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:40,960 less snaps than most or he saw a lot more carries. 292 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,240 So it's just kind of like mostly out there to be out there, 293 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,040 'cause he's like a trusted veteran and yeah, gonna get the 294 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:49,680 ball to right when he's on the field. 295 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,840 Right. 13 and. That that, that those kind of 296 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,240 suggest that he was on the he was on the field trying to 297 00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:02,160 assault the game away as well. Yeah, yeah. 298 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:03,720 I, I do think it's interesting though. 299 00:21:03,720 --> 00:21:07,440 I think, you know, when you're on these really small slates, it 300 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:12,320 can be. Yeah, you're looking for these 301 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,360 spots where you just wanna, you're trying to get ahead of 302 00:21:15,360 --> 00:21:18,280 the field by one week. You're trying to say hey I I see 303 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:20,080 that Jalen Wright is the one that's actually getting the 304 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:25,840 touches between him and most are I I wish I could go and see the 305 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,120 like when all the touches occurred on PFF cause from 306 00:21:29,120 --> 00:21:33,400 watching the game he did get a couple early but I don't know 307 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:38,320 exactly how many came after the game was out of hand here. 308 00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Yeah, I can. I can look it up on and on the 309 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:50,720 the Rotavist Screener, OK, but it just, I, I wish there was a 310 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,000 more of a like you. I wish there was a more kind of 311 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,920 like intuitive tool. Yeah. 312 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:03,040 Are the other are just quicker? You can if you want to go to the 313 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,480 next chart. There is a guy on the next chart 314 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:09,160 that I think is also potentially relevant on the short 315 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:15,480 Thanksgiving slate. Oh, where did I? 316 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:20,280 I guess Roshan Johnson is not is not getting enough snaps here. 317 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:28,680 Let me, let me pull him up. So Jalen, OK, OK, I have the 318 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,640 answer of Jalen writes 7 rush attempts, 6 came in the fourth 319 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:36,800 quarter. OK, OK, so he did, he did just 320 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:40,640 get the one earlier, but. He he, he was in the soft the 321 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:41,280 game. Role. 322 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,120 Yeah, actually go go to the previous chart because I just, I 323 00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,280 must have missed Roshan Johnson there. 324 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,080 Where is Roshan? I don't know he's he's been 325 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:59,640 getting, he certainly has enough snaps to qualify so. 326 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,040 I'm, I'm wondering why he's not showing up here. 327 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,080 Well, last game Roshan got 37 snaps. 328 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:14,480 Now some of those are special teams. 29 of them were actually 329 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:20,040 useful on offense and that's compared to 30 in the previous 330 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,520 game, 20 in the game before that, 28 in the game prior to 331 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:26,080 that. So these last four games, he's 332 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:28,000 certainly been getting opportunities. 333 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,840 He can get some passing game stuff, He can get the short 334 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:37,880 yardage and goal line stuff. So he's he's pretty interesting 335 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,200 to me as well. Like if you had to rate, if you 336 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:46,160 had to rank Roshan Johnson, Emmanuel Wilson or Jalen Wright 337 00:23:46,360 --> 00:23:48,840 as far as like your level of interest in these kind of 338 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:53,720 secondary backs, which one are you most interested in playing? 339 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:59,840 So Roshan, if we're looking at kind of like expected points 340 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,560 over the last couple weeks, Roshan is coming in with about 341 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,080 6.9 expected points per game over the last four weeks since 342 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,600 week 9. And I'm also not sure why he's 343 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,920 showing up on the on the chart and we've got Ty Johnson on the 344 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,000 chart. We don't have Roshan Johnson on 345 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,080 the chart. I wonder at we'll have to, we'll 346 00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:21,720 have to look powerfully into that. 347 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:25,760 Yeah. So he's coming in at about 7 348 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:33,120 expected points per game. And then after that, Jalen 349 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:36,040 Wright what? What about 3.4? 350 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,960 And who's the other guy you said? 351 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:43,840 Jalen Wright, Roshan Johnson and Emmanuel Wilson. 352 00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:50,320 Emmanuel Wilson and he's coming in about 3.9. 353 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:59,440 So I mean just even even though. So let me, let me look up Roshan 354 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,080 again. So Roshan, even though he's only 355 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:08,640 on the field, so he's only on the field for 37% of snaps. 356 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:16,680 Actually, that's why he he's not showing up on the and then his 357 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:21,320 oh, his useful, his useful snaps rush plus route routes plus rush 358 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,320 attempts is 24%. So that's why he doesn't show up 359 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,480 here. And he does actually miss that 360 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:27,880 threshold. But. 361 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:35,840 I guess because he's gotten that goal line work and I mean, I 362 00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:45,480 mean look up as his weekly and so he's actually got a pretty 363 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:50,960 good goal line and role in the last two games he's played in. 364 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,960 And if you look up as average on the last two games, it's 365 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:04,880 actually 7 point. And no, that's his, his average 366 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:08,000 on the last two games is actually about 1010 points. 367 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:13,400 So he's actually like with that goal line role, he's actually 368 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,280 pretty, pretty viable in a real way. 369 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:21,720 I, I don't know how much he's going to get played and but as 370 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,240 like as a cheaper point option, he is like heading head and 371 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:27,200 shoulders above all those other guys. 372 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:30,880 Yeah, I would guess that makes him pretty, pretty popular then. 373 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:36,840 He's 4500 on the slate, just 100 more than Ezekiel Elliott. 374 00:26:37,800 --> 00:26:42,960 So he Roshan seems like a a pretty good option then if you 375 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:46,160 are trying to get gross at running back. 376 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:49,360 I mean, here, here's some of the other, you know, like secondary 377 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,280 options. You got Zeke Elliott. 378 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,840 And I, I already know how you feel there, that I believe that 379 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,840 you're not playing Zeke Elliott under any circumstance, am I? 380 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:00,920 Am I correct in that assumption? Yeah, I can't. 381 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:03,440 I can't do it. I can't even sell you on the 382 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,160 Zeke jumping in the the Salvation Army bucket on Thanks. 383 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:12,600 No, thank you. Yeah, I, I don't think I'm going 384 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,320 to be playing very much Zeke as well. 385 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,600 If we if we do wanna, there's one more guy I just wanted to 386 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,400 talk about very briefly on the previous chart. 387 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,320 Yeah, oh, scroll on the wrong one. 388 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:36,480 So Rico Dowdle has been getting pretty substantial role these 389 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,440 last couple weeks here. He's he's getting the receiving 390 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,960 work as well. I believe he had three targets 391 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:49,240 in this last game, but he's he's definitely an interesting one. 392 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:53,120 I mean, the problem is that Rico's ceiling is tied to the 393 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:56,840 Cowboys offense scoring touchdowns, which seems quite 394 00:27:56,840 --> 00:28:01,560 difficult for them in the past three. 395 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,080 I mean, so yeah, past three games he's had three targets, 5 396 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,720 targets and three targets. So he's getting, he's involved 397 00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:14,360 in the receiving game. And then he had 24 attempts 398 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,240 against Washington. So that was when the Cowboys 399 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:20,800 were kind of playing from ahead. You also can attack Washington 400 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:25,920 on the ground, but you can attack the Giants on the ground 401 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,720 as well, so. Yeah, I, I mean, so at least on 402 00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,600 a on a basis, his, his role is as steady as anybody else's. 403 00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:38,720 It's as it's as steady as a Chan, it's as steady as as Josh 404 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:42,760 Jacobs, and he's coming in a little bit under on the expected 405 00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:43,840 points. The last four weeks. 406 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:50,600 He's at 14 expected points and but I I do I do think you've got 407 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:54,440 it. You've got one thing that will 408 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,360 will probably keep any one individual players ownership 409 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:58,520 down. You do actually have like a 410 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,760 decent like helping of of of different options like DeAndre 411 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,680 Swift is interesting. David Montgomery's interesting 412 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:11,080 like Jamir Gabes is probably like the one guy that everybody 413 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:18,760 wants to play and let me see what his his tag is. 414 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:26,480 So he's at 7500, Josh Jacobs at 7000 and David Montgomery is 415 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,960 6500. Like these all seem like not 416 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:33,960 price prohibitive. Yeah, No, the pricing is the 417 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,840 pricing is pretty loose on on the slate. 418 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,160 So I could see that keeping someone like Roshan, like 419 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,760 really, really low on the ownership. 420 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,760 Yeah, I would, I would agree. I, I think one of the big things 421 00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,160 that you'll want to do on this slate is you're probably going 422 00:29:51,160 --> 00:29:56,120 to want to leave a little salary, you know, more than, 423 00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:59,600 more than you would typically think to leave just again, 424 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,360 'cause it is a, a short slate and the pricing's pretty loose. 425 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:08,240 I mean, even even for wide receivers, the most expensive is 426 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,680 almond raw and then you have only CD and neighbors or the 427 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,080 only other two that are above 7000. 428 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,760 Then every other receiver is below 6000. 429 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:24,200 You know, you can get like I, I'm assuming Dobbs is going to 430 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,800 be out with the concussion. I, I don't think there's any way 431 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:32,160 that he clears. So you end up with there's a 432 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,480 couple pretty interesting, like cheap, super cheap Packers 433 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,080 receivers. Like you get Beau Melton, he's 434 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,320 3100. That's actually one that I think 435 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,920 is pretty interesting. Dontavion Wix is probably the 436 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,280 one that catches all the steam, right. 437 00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:52,520 He's 4200 and I assume that people will will just want to 438 00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:59,720 play him if Dobbs misses. But we can we can save that for 439 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,840 the wide receiver charts. Let's let's move on to some 440 00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,120 efficiency stuff for the running backs here. 441 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,840 Oh sure. And I, I, I, I think we can be 442 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,320 pretty quick on the efficiency stuff. 443 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,760 Just we can note who has been efficient. 444 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:21,560 Right, yeah, I mean Dowdell, not with a terribly disappointing 445 00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:24,200 efficiency, right? Like only only slightly smaller 446 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:27,840 than 0 fantasy points over expected per game. 447 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,560 You know he's not sitting there in like the cream hunt or 448 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,640 Jonathan Taylor levels of inefficiency. 449 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,680 The. That I mean, as as somebody who 450 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:46,160 could could kind of get caught as in a loose slate of, of 451 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,640 people not being really interested in Rico Dowdle. 452 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,520 He's somebody who could be very interesting given like pretty, 453 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,560 he says his role is as strong as anybody else is on the site. 454 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,520 He just plays on a crappie offense. 455 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,040 Yeah, yeah. And you, you get the nice match 456 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,720 up against the Giants. The Cowboys are actually favored 457 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,120 too, which, you know, we we saw what they did in the game 458 00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:09,200 against Washington where they did have the lead. 459 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,320 They were willing to run the ball. 460 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:17,720 And so if they do lead like the spread implies, then it does 461 00:32:17,720 --> 00:32:19,840 seem to set up pretty well for Dowdell. 462 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:24,320 So really, I think then it's just gonna come down to how how 463 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,760 owned is Dowdell actually going to be? 464 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,560 I I would assume he gets pretty popular, but you know, less 465 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,280 popular than say like a Josh Jacobs or. 466 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:39,800 Yeah, it's just there's like Jameer Gibbs and and David 467 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:42,880 Montgomery have to be like, everybody's going to want to 468 00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,320 play them. I imagine there's actually a 469 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:46,200 decent number of teams that play both of them. 470 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:52,880 And then then, yeah, you people are going to love playing a 471 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,520 Chan. People are going to love playing 472 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:59,240 Josh Jacobs. My, my point is more like 473 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,160 somebody like Rico Dowdle. I I could see him like just like 474 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:10,040 not not being clicked. Yeah, I mean, with their with 475 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:13,400 their being so few like actual starting running backs, I'm sure 476 00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:16,200 he'll he'll get some some ownership. 477 00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:19,680 But yeah, he's he's much less sexy to play than the other 478 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:21,800 guys. Also with David Montgomery and 479 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:25,360 Jamir Gibbs, you've got the dynamic of Montgomery leaving 480 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:29,400 the game with a shoulder injury. I believe it was right, right. 481 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,320 They've what I've heard is that they they think he will play. 482 00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,000 But I, I wonder, you know, I wonder how effective. 483 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,600 Well, it's, it's sounded like they, they kept him out of the 484 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,680 game because they, they taught that the Chicago game would be 485 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,720 like so important for him that they wanted them like ready for 486 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:49,640 that. Yeah, yeah. 487 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:52,120 So could could just be an abundance of caution there. 488 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,800 And and then the only other guy we we haven't talked about too 489 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:08,920 much is younger Swift, who I guess with Roshan getting this 490 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,000 kind of goal line role, there's been less, there's been less of 491 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:19,840 that for, for Swift. And so he's been like 11 492 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:28,520 expected points in week 1112 and week 12 nine week 10 and week 493 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,159 nine. Really the last time Swift had 494 00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:36,080 like a substantial role. I, I feel like he's somebody who 495 00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:40,320 could get like kind of the tag of us of like people look at him 496 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,719 in the mindset of a starting running back, but not actually 497 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:50,800 like a lot of the trends for him are, are kind of not, not the 498 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:52,320 best. Like let me look up his. 499 00:34:54,320 --> 00:35:02,240 So yeah, I guess he he, he kind of, he's kind of like the in 500 00:35:02,240 --> 00:35:06,960 between the 20s running back where he's, he's on the field 501 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,280 for 60% of snaps, but he's not getting goal line, he's not 502 00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:16,520 getting that much receiving and. Yeah, I mean, really, if you're 503 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,400 playing Swift, you're betting on that he is really efficient and 504 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:22,560 that he scores a touchdown from. Right. 505 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,480 You need two or three touchdowns probably. 506 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,680 Yeah, so I, I don't, I don't love that. 507 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:32,160 If you, if you give them to me low owned enough, I'll do that 508 00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:35,960 'cause you know, that is that is the way that Swift has gotten 509 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,600 there in the past. And as he breaks off these long 510 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:41,880 touchdown runs or, you know, catches a pass in space and then 511 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,800 takes it to the house. So if you can do that, it's 512 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,000 just. Right. 513 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,480 That's what he does. Like you said, that's what he 514 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:50,400 does. But if that's the only, if 515 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,240 that's your only path, it's not someone I really want to play 516 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:54,800 into ownership, right? Right. 517 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:58,800 No, no, not at all. I think. 518 00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:01,000 I think we talked about almost every. 519 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:05,120 Yeah, yeah, we talked about every backfields and. 520 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,960 Yeah, we can. We can go ahead and move to the. 521 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,920 Next, next charts. So yeah, moving and moving to 522 00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:21,960 tight ends Funny. And so it I don't know it took 523 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:26,480 her craft is on the slate. Janu Schmidt, who just had the 524 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,520 big huge game is on the slate. Sam LaPorte is on the slate. 525 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:37,960 Luke Schumacher is on the slate. You've got a Coco. 526 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:40,000 Met is on the slate. I was going to say, you haven't 527 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,680 even said my favorite tight end yet for the Slate, but yeah. 528 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:44,720 And then? One I'm interested in. 529 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,000 And so Coco met has had a pretty he, he had some big games, but 530 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,760 he's been pretty quiet as of late. 531 00:36:52,520 --> 00:37:00,280 His his usage metrics like at 82% of routes and then 15% of 532 00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:07,840 targets per hour run is kind of mediocre and but then we we have 533 00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,920 seen him capable of these big huge games too. 534 00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:13,280 Well, and and in this, you know, past week against Minnesota, he 535 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:16,320 did get 10 targets. So to me that's pretty 536 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,960 encouraging 'cause we saw the 11 target game earlier in the 537 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,760 season where he had that big blow up game went for just under 538 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,520 100 yards and a touchdown and 10 receptions. 539 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:29,080 This last week against Minnesota, he gets 10 targets 540 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,960 again. So it's just encouraging to see 541 00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,120 that with Thomas Brown calling the plays now and the offense 542 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:39,080 being more functional that like at least they are aware that 543 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,680 Kolkamet is a good player that they can get the ball to. 544 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,080 So I'm yeah, I'm hopeful there and. 545 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:55,480 His his kind of target stuff, it seems very spiky where like he 546 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,640 he's got, he's like lot. The week before week 11 he was 547 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:05,680 at 9% targets per run and this week he was at 23% and his his 548 00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,480 10 targets were was on 55 drop backs. 549 00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,720 Right. So it's a higher ball game for 550 00:38:11,720 --> 00:38:13,240 the offense. Right, right. 551 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,520 But certain I, I, I think certainly a very, very 552 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:23,080 interesting player that had had hasn't popped in a big way in a 553 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,360 in a long time. So may go under the radar more 554 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,000 than you should do. Like Johnny's going to get the 555 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:36,320 attention. And then Sam Laporta, he's at 70 556 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:42,040 in the last four weeks, 76% Reds run and then with it actually an 557 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:48,000 improved 20% targets per run, which is much better than than 558 00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:55,120 it was earlier in the year. His full where his full season 559 00:38:55,400 --> 00:39:00,640 target sprout run is down at 15% so it has been improving and I 560 00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,520 know it was stuck at like 10 for his first couple weeks. 561 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:14,440 Yeah, I Laporta I'm, I'm a little less, less interested in 562 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:19,000 it. Just the lions just feel like so 563 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,720 multiple that they have so many different ways to beat you that 564 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:25,200 Laporta is really just like a luxury for them. 565 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:29,440 It, it almost feels like every once in a while they decide like 566 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,280 we should, we should get Laporta a touchdown like or, or it's 567 00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:36,400 almost like a bit like, all right, let's let's get Laporta 568 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,400 involved here because like yes, his, his targets recently are 569 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,040 better than the absolutely abysmal stretch he had to start 570 00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,000 the season, but he's I. Mean they're in line with 571 00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:50,040 kolkamets. Yeah, I mean, he just, but 572 00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,120 Laporta is not getting like the targets in spikes. 573 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,880 He's never seen more than six targets in a game. 574 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,480 And if I'm trying to win a GPP, I'd rather have it be Kolkamet, 575 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:04,200 where I know that if the stars align, he could get double digit 576 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,840 targets. Whereas Sam Laporta feels pretty 577 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:10,920 like, feels really, really unlikely for him to get double 578 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:13,360 digit targets, seeing as he's never had more than six this 579 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:17,760 entire season. I mean, the the situations where 580 00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:22,880 I'd be the most open to playing Sam Laporta and like searching 581 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:26,880 for that ceiling game is when I think that the Lions are going 582 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,840 to be in a really tight game with a lot of scoring. 583 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:34,040 Like I want them to be forced to pass to increase the passing 584 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,400 volume so he can get more targets that way. 585 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,160 And I want them to feel pressure to where they're having to 586 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,920 actually like maybe their best options are being taken away 587 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,560 from them more effectively than they're used to. 588 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:48,120 And they're having to go to La Porta because right now it just 589 00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,800 feels like he's not really necessary. 590 00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,080 Right? They can always if if they don't 591 00:40:52,080 --> 00:40:54,680 have to, if they're not able to beat you with Alan Raw, they'll 592 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:58,160 do it with Jamo if you know. And, and obviously their 593 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:01,080 preferred way to beat you is just we're gonna run Gibbs and 594 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,520 Montgomery down your throat and then we'll mix in the pass a 595 00:41:04,520 --> 00:41:07,560 little bit. I don't think we should throw 596 00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:11,520 out last year though. Like he had four games last year 597 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,160 where he he had double digit targets and then he also had a 598 00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:20,000 nine target game. I I don't want to just throw 599 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,920 that out. No, yeah, I'm, I'm not. 600 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:33,200 Like I I, I think if if like I I I don't know, I I I honestly see 601 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,280 him as a pretty similar option to Co commit. 602 00:41:35,720 --> 00:41:39,880 OK, where where I I don't I don't want to like just get too, 603 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,040 what you call it too focused in on. 604 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,960 Oh, Co commit had these high target games this year and 605 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:54,200 Samuel Porta hasn't like so that means that it it can't happen 606 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:59,400 like we we we see these tight end games all the time where it 607 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:00,840 seemed just kind of covered to tight end. 608 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,560 So they the the tight end gets a bunch of work. 609 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,760 Yeah, no, that's that's certainly reasonable. 610 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:15,040 I just, I think that you're likely to see projections favor 611 00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:20,080 Laporta over Cole Comet, and Laporta is 500 more expensive 612 00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:24,240 than Cole Comet. I, I think, I think people, more 613 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,480 casual people are, are way more likely to play La Porta Dana 614 00:42:28,720 --> 00:42:33,040 Dana Coca man. So that's, I think that 615 00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:37,160 certainly makes sense. Yeah, there there are some some 616 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:39,640 tight ends that people are going to be less familiar with that 617 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:43,240 might actually be worth playing on this slate. 618 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,560 Luke Schumacher we we talked about last week. 619 00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:52,160 I think he might be off the menu if Ferguson plays. 620 00:42:53,080 --> 00:42:56,280 If Ferguson doesn't play, I think Schumacher will turn into 621 00:42:56,320 --> 00:43:00,880 super chalk. Yeah, and he was only at 60% 622 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:06,400 Reds were on last week, 60% Reds were on 15% targets per at run. 623 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:10,920 I I don't know, I don't that that doesn't that doesn't seem 624 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:14,920 great to me. Like I think I'd rather TO 625 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:20,400 Johnson than done Luke Schumacher by by a good amount. 626 00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:26,520 The the other thing that you'll sometimes see people do on these 627 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:31,160 really short slates is you play 2 tight ends because the pricing 628 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:34,160 is so loose. You play one tight end to the 629 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,600 flex that's a just an absolute cheap punt and then you play 630 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,920 another tight end and those two are just so cheap combined that 631 00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:45,680 you literally get to jam all of the good skill position players 632 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,880 then. So the guy that would actually 633 00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:54,880 be the most interesting to me to to do that, like if you're going 634 00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:57,720 to play, you know, really cheap tight end, just a punt in the 635 00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:01,200 flex. I think Theo Johnson is pretty 636 00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,880 interesting. What are your thoughts on him? 637 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:11,680 So Theo Johnson, I, I am, I am a little bit surprised that his 638 00:44:11,680 --> 00:44:14,200 routes came in a little bit last week. 639 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:19,680 So his route percentage was just 63% versus 76% on the season. 640 00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:22,320 I don't. Want to get off the the injury 641 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,080 he had, a back injury he was dealing with. 642 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,800 Oh, OK. I was about to say I don't want 643 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,440 to like dial too much into it, but and I and I wondered if 644 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:35,000 there was an injury and and then he did have his his target 645 00:44:35,000 --> 00:44:39,240 volume has been up to. So I think that is interesting. 646 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:47,680 And on a, on a short, like I guess on a short slate, it's 647 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:51,320 he's certainly he's, he's certainly very, very, I don't 648 00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:53,840 know if he's strong, but he's certainly very, very viable. 649 00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,400 Yeah, only, only 2900. I mean, he's probably the 650 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:05,920 cheapest like point per dollar or like targets per dollar. 651 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:10,400 Like he's probably going to be one of the better values on the 652 00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:15,680 slate in my opinion. Yeah, he's had 6 targets in each 653 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:19,160 of the last three weeks. Yeah, he's he's pretty 654 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,400 interesting there. Let's see the only there's 655 00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:28,960 really I mean, like maybe you could could say you want to see 656 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:32,480 a little Brock right? You know, Dan Dan Campbell loves 657 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,600 him some Brock right. Maybe you get a little Brock 658 00:45:34,600 --> 00:45:37,960 right touchdown. I don't really think I'm playing 659 00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:41,400 any Brock right. He's he's also more expensive 660 00:45:41,400 --> 00:45:44,480 than Theo Johnson. So, you know, if you're looking 661 00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,680 to punt tight end, I'm probably just doing Theo Johnson. 662 00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:54,000 Right, right. And and then of the like, I 663 00:45:54,000 --> 00:46:02,280 guess just in terms of like Showdown and with some I I see 664 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:08,080 breven span Ford, he was like honestly very similar to Luke 665 00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,920 Schumacher in terms of routes. He's just a little bit on their 666 00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,240 own and he's just a little bit under him in targets. 667 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:22,200 Yeah, I'd be really interested if Ferguson misses, but if 668 00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:26,040 Ferguson doesn't miss, I'm pretty uninterested in Brevan. 669 00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,400 Like it's it's hard to get different on on the on the small 670 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,040 slates because the player's pool is so small. 671 00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:37,360 But right, you need Ferguson to miss to to be interested. 672 00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:42,520 But as I get pivot off of Schumacher and I imagine he I'm 673 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,480 going to guess that he's he's min price. 674 00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,240 He's 2700, so he's not he's he's close. 675 00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:56,160 OK, that that seems interesting. Yeah, def yeah with you on that. 676 00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,400 If Ferguson misses, pretty interested in Brevin Spanford. 677 00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:04,160 Otherwise probably not. I I might have him in a showdown 678 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:06,720 lineup or something, but I'm I'm mme ING. 679 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:11,120 So right. Yeah. 680 00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,080 And then we said we, we, we talked a little bit more about 681 00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,880 the more tertiary guys. You also you, you, you mentioned 682 00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:25,360 Brock were right. You also have Julian Hill for 683 00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:32,400 the Dolphins, who I mean, you're probably looking at two or three 684 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:35,040 targets here. Yeah, you're looking at 2 like 2 685 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:39,680 targets probably in the game. And that that's probably like 686 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:43,040 more showdown stuff. Yeah, I think too, too thin to 687 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,760 play on like the three-game slate, but you can, if there's 688 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,800 a, in showdown, like if you're playing the, the, you know, 689 00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:54,600 flagship, the largest field Lotto, if a guy is running more 690 00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,200 than like 5 routes and they're very cheap, like they're sub 691 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,640 $1000, you can play them like you, you can play a kick 692 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,600 returner that runs 3 routes, you know, on average game like 693 00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:10,440 you're like, for example, the, the slate where I won the play 694 00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:15,400 action this year, I had Tywin Wallace from the Ravenson. 695 00:48:15,680 --> 00:48:18,960 He'd been running like barely, I think barely like double digit 696 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:21,200 routes prior to that. I'll, I'll pull him up here. 697 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:28,640 But I, you know, if you get a min price guy that's out there 698 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:32,560 running routes, that's that's worth playing, you know? 699 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,240 So yeah, like here's the Tyler Wallace routes here. 700 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:47,680 He had eight. This is from week 585556. 701 00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,200 Those are his routes. And then in the game where he 702 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:56,200 went off and had 115 yards and a touchdown, he had five routes 703 00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,360 for three targets, 3 receptions, 115 yards and a touchdown. 704 00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:03,840 So like the reason that you play those Min Price guys that are 705 00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:08,600 running like 5 routes or something is because it allows 706 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,640 you to play a very good line up around them and have a 707 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,120 relatively low owned line up that you're playing. 708 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,280 It's not gonna be duplicated very much. 709 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,840 And when that guy scores a touchdown, it's not, it doesn't 710 00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,960 have to happen very often, but when he scores a touchdown and 711 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,400 the rest of your lineup that you played is is good, then you 712 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,880 bink. And so that's that's kind of why 713 00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:31,120 you play those really, really low owned guys. 714 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,800 It's just like. We're talking about Julian Hill, 715 00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:38,200 right? That's so he had a, he had 11 716 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,080 routes, 16 routes, 10 routes in the last three weeks. 717 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:46,120 Yeah, so he, he definitely seems like someone that will make it 718 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:52,640 into my My Showdown set. And got it. 719 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,120 And I'm I'm looking at these at the rest of these guys. 720 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,560 I I don't think we need to to talk. 721 00:49:57,560 --> 00:50:00,080 To no, it's more, I don't think any of the rest of them are 722 00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,360 terribly viable. So we can we can move on to 723 00:50:03,360 --> 00:50:14,080 receivers here. So and this is the the receiving 724 00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:16,000 chart. Sorry about the the that noise 725 00:50:16,000 --> 00:50:21,120 there. And I guess contrary to kind of 726 00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,120 like a pretty if the the running back seems like a lot of kind of 727 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:29,760 mediums type of guys. Where's you have on this one, 728 00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,280 you have CD lamb on the receivers, you have CD Lamb. 729 00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,720 You've Malik neighbors, you've Tyree kill, you've Joe and 730 00:50:35,720 --> 00:50:42,120 Waddle, you've Romo Dunze, you have DJ Murr, you have you have 731 00:50:42,120 --> 00:50:45,320 all these, you have all these Packers, you have all these all 732 00:50:45,320 --> 00:50:49,480 these bears and some pretty high-powered offenses. 733 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:57,400 And I guess the the I think the temptation probably will be to 734 00:50:57,400 --> 00:51:00,320 see how many of these like stood receivers you can get in the 735 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,960 lineup. And it's kind of trying to find 736 00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:08,680 who's the who's the guy who's just below that level, who has 737 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,200 it, who has a good game. Yeah. 738 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:16,080 I mean, the one that's like if you want to a really gross one, 739 00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:21,960 I mean, Jalen Tolbert has been running lots of routes, you 740 00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:27,400 know, pretty consistently getting targets like he, he 741 00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:31,040 hasn't had under 4 targets since week 8. 742 00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:33,400 So he's he's getting those targets now. 743 00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:37,080 The bad thing is he's not really doing anything with them. 744 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,640 He's managed to fall in the end zone or get in the end zone a 745 00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:41,360 couple times in the last four weeks. 746 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:45,480 So to me, his ceiling feels pretty limited. 747 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,400 He's not getting a ton of yardage. 748 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:50,560 You know, his biggest yardage game was back in Week 5 where he 749 00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:56,160 went for 87. But that was, that was just he, 750 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:59,640 he just, you know, got peppered with targets, had 10 targets in 751 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,360 that game. He hasn't really shown anything 752 00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:06,640 like that since. So he seems like at the very 753 00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,960 least an interesting play for a touchdown for me. 754 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:16,440 Now his price is 3800. So he's basically in the price 755 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:21,480 range of some of the some of the better tight ends like 3800. 756 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:25,320 That'd be 100 more expensive than Tucker Craft, 100 cheaper 757 00:52:25,320 --> 00:52:30,920 than Jake Ferguson. So I don't know he, he's at the 758 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:33,160 very least interesting to me just 'cause he's on the field, 759 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:36,840 he's getting lots of routes. And again, like everyone wants 760 00:52:36,840 --> 00:52:39,880 to play the good, like, you know, everyone wants to play the 761 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:41,480 good players. So. 762 00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,000 Right, right. No, no, he's, he's. 763 00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,040 Not even out here running lots of routes. 764 00:52:47,120 --> 00:52:49,880 Right. And the other one that strikes 765 00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:55,960 me in that kind of range is as like a Darius Slayton and his 766 00:52:55,960 --> 00:52:58,480 his routes did seem to tail off the last game. 767 00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:03,520 He was down at just like 50% in in week 12. 768 00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,400 I, I, I honestly, I don't, I don't know if that was like an 769 00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,000 injury or if like he was apparently he was very upset 770 00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:18,920 when they released Daniel Jones. Oh, he had a he had an injury. 771 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,680 OK. OK, yeah, I know. 772 00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,280 I know. Hyatt's routes have been 773 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:29,840 trending up. I believe I'll pull him up here. 774 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:36,800 Still, on Hyatt, he was up at 81 percent of a restaurant. 775 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:42,520 Unfortunately, no targets. Well, no, he got 4 target or am 776 00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:44,520 I looking at? No, that's what we. 777 00:53:44,520 --> 00:53:53,040 Did he got 4 targets Carolina? Yeah, OK, OK, see, I know no 778 00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:59,880 targets last week, but I mean, he is, he is a a deeper, he 779 00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:05,960 operates deeper down the field. So you know, you you could like 780 00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:09,480 his his A dot. Now he's not getting targets in 781 00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:12,120 a ton of games, but his A dot. The last time he got targeted in 782 00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:18,400 Carolina was 9.5 had a 8 out of 32 against Philly. 783 00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:22,760 So he's got I mean he's got a 8 out of 53 and 43 here. 784 00:54:22,760 --> 00:54:24,640 Most of those are just one target games. 785 00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:28,240 The one game where you got 4 targets is a 8 out of 16. 786 00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:33,000 So I, I like, I like the call of, you know, you started on 787 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,120 Slaton, but with Slaton dealing with the injury, I think Hyatt 788 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,160 is at the very least interesting as well. 789 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,080 But basically with Hyatt, you're just like, can he get one of 790 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,280 these deep targets and turn it into a touchdown? 791 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,680 That's really what you're playing for. 792 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,360 It's on, on these small slates. Like we said, it does start to 793 00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:53,880 kind of feel like showdown adjacent where you're like, can 794 00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:55,960 this guy score a touchdown or do anything? 795 00:54:55,960 --> 00:55:00,720 But he's, he's only 3200. So he is very cheap now there's 796 00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:03,960 a couple guys right around this price range that I think are are 797 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,960 some of the better plays on the slate. 798 00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,160 So like you have Kevante Turpin at 3300. 799 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,520 I kind of wonder though if his recent he got had the kick 800 00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:18,960 return touchdown in the you know game prior to that he had the 801 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:23,920 big 64 yard touchdown. So like he is Kevante Turpin has 802 00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,080 has been flashing lately, so I kind of think he might catch 803 00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,960 some steam in in this range of guys. 804 00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:36,520 So he's at 18% routes run 17% targets for a run. 805 00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:41,240 So he had so that, that 17 percent is, is is good for one 806 00:55:41,240 --> 00:55:48,000 target in, in we 12. So I, I, I think you are 807 00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:51,800 probably better off going with the guys who are out there 808 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:55,640 running routes. Yeah, So what, what do you 809 00:55:55,640 --> 00:55:57,480 think? Let's, I mean, we can, we can 810 00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,480 move on from this wide receiver one chart 'cause I, I feel like 811 00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:04,240 the guys that are worth talking about are, are gonna be these 812 00:56:04,240 --> 00:56:08,160 more tertiary guys, 'cause I, I don't think we're gonna tell 813 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,240 people anything revelationary for the guys that they know they 814 00:56:11,240 --> 00:56:15,920 weren't right. In fact, I think we probably 815 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,040 just wanna go all the way. We, we wanna go down to the 816 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,360 dumpster here. Let's go down to the the final. 817 00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:27,240 Point I'm actually some I'm trying to find if there's any 818 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:33,280 the the other guys because we're trying to find, we're trying to 819 00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,520 identify rest. But no, I don't see anybody 820 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:39,800 here. That's somebody we wanted to 821 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,160 talk about. Yeah, the the ones that I'm 822 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,000 really interested in that I was teasing are guys who haven't 823 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:49,640 been running routes or very many routes lately, but they're gonna 824 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:51,800 they should get opportunity here due to injury. 825 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:58,200 Dante beyond Wicks is one who will get increased opportunity 826 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,640 very likely with Dobbs likely to miss. 827 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,640 But I think Beau, like Beau Melton is the one that I really 828 00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,840 don't want to sleep on that he's he's not even going to show up 829 00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,920 on this chart because he doesn't even have 40% routes to run. 830 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,000 But Beau Melton, let me let me pull him up here. 831 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,680 Yeah, in the last game just had eight routes. 832 00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:25,720 I, I, I could see that going up because the Dobbs injury didn't 833 00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:31,320 happen until later in the game. Now, I believe. 834 00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:37,440 Let's compare that to Wix here. Yeah, Wix, Wix up at 11 routes. 835 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:41,280 So him and Melton in like a similar range of routes. 836 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:45,440 Now, we've seen Wix get on the field more this season than 837 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:47,280 we've seen Melton get on the season. 838 00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,560 You know, Wix did have some some weeks where he's running more 839 00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,880 routes than most Melton's ever had in a week was only 13. 840 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,920 Yeah, all the way back and the most targets he's had is tree. 841 00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:06,520 I I think I, I hate saying it like this, but I think we can be 842 00:58:06,520 --> 00:58:12,560 fairly sure that Beau Nelton needs 2 tight, 2 injuries to be 843 00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:17,440 yeah, to be really relevant because the season high here is 844 00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:22,840 45% rats. I guess season high in games 845 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,120 that he saw as Harrogate because otherwise he doesn't show up on 846 00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:31,800 the on on the table. Yeah, So it it sounds like what 847 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:35,920 you're saying is Bo Melton No on the three gamer, but but maybe 848 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,680 in showdown. Yeah, yeah, definitely more of a 849 00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:40,920 show, a showdown and play, I think. 850 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,320 OK, what about another guy in this price range is Odell 851 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:49,280 Beckham? What are are you? 852 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,480 Do you have any thoughts on Odell Beckham? 853 00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:55,560 So let me let me see where he comes up. 854 00:58:56,320 --> 00:59:04,760 So he he has been playing for a while now and so 47% and I'm 855 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:10,360 going to start with week 1047% routes, 37% routes, 38% routes. 856 00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,240 And you're looking at an average of about 3 targets a game here 857 00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:20,120 and you're looking at an A dot of about 10. 858 00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:24,400 I think that that is also more of a showdown. 859 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:28,320 Yeah, it's just he, he has to score a touchdown. 860 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:31,480 And even if he scores a touchdown on and he played him 861 00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:33,640 on the three-game slate, like what's your bet? 862 00:59:33,640 --> 00:59:36,800 Your best case scenarios, maybe 10 points, right, a touchdown, 863 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:40,920 couple reception, 20 yards or something, 'cause he hasn't. 864 00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,640 He hasn't had a relief. Yeah, yeah. 865 00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:49,000 So probably solid showdown play 2 gross for the three gamer. 866 00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:55,080 Is there anyone else that you have as someone that you you 867 00:59:55,080 --> 00:59:58,200 think you could actually play on a three-game slate that might be 868 00:59:58,280 --> 01:00:00,240 one of these deeper dumpster dives? 869 01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:05,880 And I don't think he's like a deepster dumpster dive. 870 01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,920 And but Romeo Dobbs is only 4600. 871 01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:14,120 Well, he he has the concussion. So he's not oh, he oh, OK, he 872 01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:16,600 has a concussion. Yeah, that's that's why I was 873 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,280 saying that we could see the increased. 874 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,440 Route volume. OK, OK, I missed that. 875 01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,680 So, Christian, does Christian Watson, does he have an injury 876 01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:24,800 too? Or do I? 877 01:00:24,800 --> 01:00:29,040 I don't believe so, no. OK, OK, so it's just them, It's 878 01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,680 just Dobbs who's injured, right? I don't know why I thought that 879 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:37,560 it was Watson who was hurt. I mean, that's a safe assumption 880 01:00:37,560 --> 01:00:39,200 to make that Christian Watson is hurt. 881 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:42,840 Right. I was like, oh, Packers injury. 882 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:50,840 It must be Christian Watson. So he's only 4900 and then Wix 883 01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:59,960 is 4200. Yeah, I I get, I guess both of 884 01:00:59,960 --> 01:01:04,040 those guys will be the, the, the, the cheap plays that people 885 01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:09,760 use to make things work. Yeah, I mean, I'm, I'm pretty 886 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:13,800 interested in. We didn't think, we didn't talk 887 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:15,600 about Tim Patrick, you see. Oh. 888 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,480 Tim Patrick's a good one. Tim Patrick's a really good one, 889 01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:20,800 yeah. I had, I had him in my head 890 01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:23,000 before the show and then I almost like just let us. 891 01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:24,160 Oh, no, I'm good. I don't. 892 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:33,440 Yeah, Tim Patrick, he and he will have weeks where he's at 893 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,000 like week 9, he was at 78% of routes. 894 01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:42,600 I I think that was probably the JMO week and then he was at 68% 895 01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:48,040 in week, 1150% in week 12. And he's seen 4 targets the last 896 01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:54,160 two weeks. So I think he's like not that 897 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,320 much. And there's not that much more 898 01:01:57,320 --> 01:02:01,680 meat on on the bone relative to some of the guys who just can't 899 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,200 play. But there's just enough that 900 01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,800 there's something to play there. Yeah, he is. 901 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:09,880 I, I would say he's borderline viable for the three gamer and 902 01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:12,800 he is really, really interesting for showdown 'cause you have the 903 01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:16,760 Khalif Raymond injury as well. So I think that'll elevate his 904 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,960 playing time. So I I think if we wanted to 905 01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:24,760 summarize like of the gross receivers, it's basically the 906 01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:30,080 the Packers like Dante beyond Wix, I think Watson, Watson's 907 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,200 probably like too mainstream to to get to count as gross. 908 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:36,560 So I guess you're you're looking at Wix and Tim Patrick. 909 01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:42,440 And then I yeah, I think, I think I'm still with you that 910 01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:46,160 Melton is probably too gross to play on the three gamer. 911 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:51,040 I mean, Tim, Tim Patrick, if he comes in low owned on showdown 912 01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,400 would be a smash. I don't think you'll get him to 913 01:02:55,400 --> 01:02:58,120 fly under the radar on Showdown, but he's he's right on the 914 01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,840 borderline for the three gamer as someone that's at the very 915 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,200 least worth sprinkle and if you're Max entering. 916 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:10,120 Right. And then I think it's kind of 917 01:03:10,120 --> 01:03:16,040 worth talking about the the Chicago guys where they all seem 918 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:20,720 to cannibalize each other enough that they're not going to be I, 919 01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:26,080 I have a hard time seeing any of them be be popular. 920 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,280 I mean, it's such a small slate and I I could definitely see 921 01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:35,200 people playing this game. Is the game that goes off 'cause 922 01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:37,960 it's against the Lions. Let's flip back to the the wide 923 01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:39,760 receiver one charts. I believe they all live on 924 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:47,520 there. Yeah, yeah, you're right. 925 01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,720 They all run so many rounds. So a doomsday is, yeah, they're 926 01:03:50,880 --> 01:03:55,520 a doomsday and Keenan are both in that, the wind sprinter 927 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,800 quadrant here and then. But it's kind of like, so 928 01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:04,880 Christian Watson and Wix are in the four thousands and then 929 01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,280 Keenan Allen and Roman Dunze are 5000 and 5100. 930 01:04:09,280 --> 01:04:13,520 So it's only a couple dollars, it's only a couple bucks more to 931 01:04:13,520 --> 01:04:20,920 move up price wise from from Wix and Watson to these Chicago 932 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:24,120 guys. And then DJ Murr is only 5600. 933 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,120 I mean. So they are in the wind 934 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,840 sprinter. I I get it because they've been 935 01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:32,400 cannibalizing each other so much. 936 01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,640 But I do wonder if that's kind of like a, if these are the guys 937 01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:41,480 who are kind of in the middle when people are, are, are using 938 01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:48,200 the Packers to jam the studs. If those guys are worth playing, 939 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:56,400 I think they are. Yeah, so I mean, this last week 940 01:04:56,680 --> 01:05:02,160 you, you got that really high pass attempts game from the 941 01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,440 Bears here. It kind of sets up to be another 942 01:05:05,440 --> 01:05:07,080 really high pass attempts game for them. 943 01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:09,280 I I would assume they'll be playing from behind against 944 01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:11,000 Detroit, who's a very good offense. 945 01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:13,600 Like we've seen Detroit have these big shootout games. 946 01:05:14,520 --> 01:05:17,600 I if there's one offense that I have confidence in being able to 947 01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:21,640 overcome the strong Bears defense, it's Detroit. 948 01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:25,560 I mean, we saw that the Vikings do just fine against them, 949 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:26,800 right? They were able to push them and 950 01:05:26,800 --> 01:05:30,160 have a, you know, a game that yielded a pretty fruitful 951 01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:35,520 fantasy environment. It, it might just be as easy as 952 01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:39,040 saying I'm gonna take Kale Williams, who's underpriced, and 953 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:41,320 I'm just gonna stack him with all three receivers. 954 01:05:41,480 --> 01:05:43,600 I'm, I'm just doing a band's onslaught. 955 01:05:44,080 --> 01:05:47,760 That's what I'm gonna do. It won't be owned enough, you 956 01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:51,560 know, And, and like you said, the receivers are all relatively 957 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,640 cheap. And I mean, shoot, just just 958 01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:58,320 pretend just in your mind's eye for, for anyone who's thinking, 959 01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:00,400 oh, that's that. You'll never get there doing 960 01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:03,000 that. It's a three-game slate, so you 961 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,280 don't need as many points right. You're you're just looking to to 962 01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:09,920 capture some points here. And if what if Dale? 963 01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:13,720 Williams plays really good. Well, and so if you got the 964 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:18,640 exact result that you got last week, so you get 106 and one on 965 01:06:18,640 --> 01:06:24,600 7 receptions for DJ Moore, you get, you know, 8 targets, only 5 966 01:06:24,600 --> 01:06:27,320 receptions for 39 yards for Roma Dunsday. 967 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:29,160 So that one you're not happy with, right? 968 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:33,440 And then you get 16 targets, 9 receptions, 86 and one for 969 01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:36,880 Keenan Allen. I mean, just could you imagine 970 01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:40,240 what if Caleb Williams threw one more touchdown and it went to 971 01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,880 Roma Dunsday there, you know, and what if it happened to be 972 01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:45,440 one of those deep passes that they've been so close at 973 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:48,440 connecting on? And so then you get three guys 974 01:06:48,440 --> 01:06:51,880 averaging close to 100 yards each with a touchdown on a 975 01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:54,800 three-game slate all stacked up with the quarterback. 976 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:59,200 I think think that's a way that I'm pretty interested in 977 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:02,920 attacking this slate, just doing the full Bears onslaught in a 978 01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:07,000 game where the highest total that we think could really be a 979 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:09,080 fun one. Right. 980 01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:14,920 And and they're all like 5000. So you're you're, you're you're 981 01:07:14,920 --> 01:07:22,520 getting that stock for like 22,000, So very, very cheap, 982 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,240 yeah. Fuck it, I might, I might throw 983 01:07:25,240 --> 01:07:28,440 Cole Commed in there too. Just right, the Bears quad. 984 01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:31,400 Why not? Right, what, what could go 985 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:35,920 wrong? And but I, I, I do. 986 01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:39,280 So I'm I'm saying this completely blind without 987 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:43,840 ownership, which is stupid and but I I do see that as a 988 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,400 potentially very strong pivot off of the cheap hackers. 989 01:07:49,600 --> 01:07:52,200 Yeah, no, I, I think you're right. 990 01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:55,800 I think it's, again, we'll have to see how ownership and 991 01:07:55,800 --> 01:07:59,160 projection shake out and, and how how much people are gonna be 992 01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,840 leaning into that, you know, the Bears and Lions game through the 993 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:06,160 Bears side. But from a early look, I I 994 01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:09,000 really don't hate the idea of like these Bears onslaughts. 995 01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:14,440 Right, right. And then so I, I, I think that 996 01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:17,240 kind of covers us for the, I think we've kind of talked 997 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:21,720 through pretty much everything on the, on the, on the showdown 998 01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:27,040 stuff. Is there anything otherwise like 999 01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,600 any any of these positions that we should be? 1000 01:08:31,600 --> 01:08:34,160 I don't think so. I think we covered the the most 1001 01:08:34,160 --> 01:08:37,319 interesting angles for the Thanksgiving slates. 1002 01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:42,000 So yeah, I I think with that we can wrap up. 1003 01:08:42,319 --> 01:08:48,840 Hope you are all going to enjoy a day full of food and football 1004 01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:51,960 and family in whichever order you prefer. 1005 01:08:53,479 --> 01:08:56,920 And good luck. We will see you next week for 1006 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:59,000 Week 13. Yeah. 1007 01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:00,359 See you. See you everybody. 1008 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:01,760 Thanks for joining.