1 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:07,600 Hello everyone and welcome to a special 1st edition of In Season 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,520 ADP Chasing. We barely made it through one 3 00:00:10,520 --> 00:00:14,600 week and the Bank Examiner is already banging on my door for 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:17,360 the Cooper Cup fade. The only thing I can do to keep 5 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,640 him at Bay is to show him the Marvin Harrison Junior fade. 6 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,200 Let's do it. ADP chasing is for when you 7 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:27,040 watch ship chasing you go these guys are just football guys. 8 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,240 And the targets for outrun leagues, that's going to be 9 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:30,640 really nice. Actually back in if it's 10 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:32,280 Austinette. It's stared to our crystal ball. 11 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:35,520 Close your eyes, you know all your entries are going to lose. 12 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:38,840 Anyway, yeah, that's fair. This is a Deuce Vant show. 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:40,240 It's. Anti cabal. 14 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,080 It's anti the best ball thought leader. 15 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:45,360 I'm obviously lying to some degree because like, I have a 16 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:48,360 lot of both of these guys. It's the most disgusting thing 17 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:56,920 you can make but man. Hey everyone, welcome. 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:01:01,280 First episode of in season ADP chasing joined as always by 19 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:06,160 Davis and Pat, who Pat is filming this using. 20 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:09,320 Well, the bank examiner, Arthur Smith sent the bank examiner to 21 00:01:09,320 --> 00:01:11,840 Corrine's house. Cordero Patterson and Arthur 22 00:01:11,960 --> 00:01:13,800 Smith came to his house and took his modem. 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,160 Yeah, so, so my modem, so the modem thing is not a joke. 24 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:22,560 I new new house, new new shed that I'm using as an office, 25 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,880 same Internet. The Internet is going to 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,160 probably go out. This thing I called yesterday 27 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:31,520 and they're like, yeah, you're it's probably just like a 28 00:01:31,520 --> 00:01:34,080 totally bad modem. And I was like, great, I've had 29 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,520 it for three days and I got to go. 30 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:37,640 They were not going to send me a new one. 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,720 I got to go get one. So that's a fun, fun thing I get 32 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,600 to do today. In the meantime, I'll probably 33 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:46,200 lose you guys at some point during this spot when it resets. 34 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,480 That's right. I mean, it really wouldn't be 35 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:52,200 ADP chasing without someone having atrocious Wi-Fi like I 36 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:55,360 had last week. Anyways, this this is going to 37 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:57,280 be. Professional on this show, Sam. 38 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,320 That is true. This show, this is going to be 39 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:05,040 shocking people. This is actually going to be an 40 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:08,560 attempt to keep this a clean one hour in season show. 41 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:10,600 We don't have time. It's not the offseason anymore 42 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,400 to do the two hour rambling ADP chasing. 43 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,800 So we're going to dive right into it. 44 00:02:15,920 --> 00:02:20,280 Let's go over first what the show format is going to be each 45 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,240 week. We might iterate on this a 46 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:25,120 little bit, but to start off we're going to have three 47 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,440 categories of players that each one of us is going to come 48 00:02:28,440 --> 00:02:32,040 prepared to talk through. First, there's the victory 49 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:34,840 lapping player. This is a player that basically 50 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:37,720 we believe should be going way up in rest of season rankings 51 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:39,880 after the previous week's performance. 52 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:41,920 There's the bag defending player. 53 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:45,320 This is probably a player that had a bad week and the market 54 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:48,880 might be panicking on, but you are actually pretty confident in 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:49,720 them. You don't think the rest of 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:53,080 season outlook should be two different after the week. 57 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:55,480 And then finally, the panic button player. 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,840 This is a player that you think should be moving down 59 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,240 significantly and rest of season rankings. 60 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:02,840 That's it. Pretty straightforward. 61 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:06,040 The last thing I'll add is that these takes don't have to line 62 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,840 up with our offseason exposures. It's certainly more fun if they 63 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:10,960 do. If you want, that's how I 64 00:03:10,960 --> 00:03:12,960 approached it. I just want to say that like I 65 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,720 approach this as it pertains to things I would have said on this 66 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,320 program for the last eight months and not necessarily a 67 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,800 global, a global panic button or global bag defend. 68 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:23,920 That's fine. Yeah. 69 00:03:23,920 --> 00:03:25,880 So I think you can interpret it either way. 70 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:29,600 I have some that are personal to my exposures, some where I'm 71 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,920 just kind of throwing out my exposures in the offseason and 72 00:03:31,920 --> 00:03:34,560 just talking through what I saw this past week. 73 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:39,280 So we will, we will get to it. Let's dive in right away here, 74 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,000 starting with the victory lapping player Davis. 75 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:43,960 I'll give you the floor first. Who was the player that you 76 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,360 think should be moving significantly up in rest of 77 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,920 season rankings? So I'm actually not going to 78 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,160 take the, I'm not going to take the easy way out here. 79 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:54,800 I'm I'm not going to do worthy. I'm not going to do rushy Rice. 80 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,160 I actually think it's Devin a chain. 81 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:02,560 I I think a chain is the one where a chain, I mean, clearly I 82 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,320 think should have been going ahead of Jameer Gibbs and you 83 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,760 know, pending the results that we see with breeze Ike right now 84 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:13,720 re draft league with your buddies, a chain or any of the 85 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:15,520 back end of the first round wide receivers. 86 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,440 It's like it's like you are you are running to click accept 87 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:21,000 before they change their mind about the back end of the first 88 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,480 wide receivers. He ran 1515 of his routes. 89 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,840 He ran as a wide receiver or as a a slot player. 90 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:33,800 Like not in the backfield. 52% of the Dolphin snaps had two 91 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:37,720 running backs on the field. But I mean the the big the big 92 00:04:37,720 --> 00:04:40,160 one was there on the one yard line. 93 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:42,960 Devin, a chain gets the one yard touchdown. 94 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:47,240 If a chain is getting 1 yard touchdowns and getting 7 95 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:51,960 targets, I mean, he's going to he it it because he's just as 96 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,920 efficient. I mean, I, I saw some of the 97 00:04:53,920 --> 00:04:56,960 boomers on Twitter take today. Oh, he's only Salfino tweeted 98 00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,840 this. He's only averaging 4.9 yards 99 00:04:59,840 --> 00:05:01,440 per carry over his last nine games. 100 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,840 Only 4.9. A number that would make Joe 101 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:06,960 Mixon blush. Joe Mixon would would sacrifice 102 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:10,880 a family member to get the 4.9 yards per carry a chain. 103 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,480 Considering Mccaffrey's age, I think there there's a fairly 104 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,080 good chance that he actually is just the number one player in 105 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,920 fantasy Mostert left for. I keep seeing this. 106 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,520 Mostert left for two series so I keep seeing this. 107 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:30,840 Oh Mostert was hurt, that's why. Mostert left for two series, 2 a 108 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:33,600 chain. Yeah, I think is the biggest 109 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:36,320 winner. I agree with this take and 110 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:37,560 curious to get your thought on it. 111 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:41,240 Pat as the the legendary upside guy, I think that there was some 112 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:44,320 maybe concern with a chain going to the season where it's like, 113 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,720 oh, he doesn't really have the pass catching thing. 114 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Does he really have the touchdown thinks the goal line 115 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:51,000 role? But clearly both those 116 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,000 indicators are extremely bullish when you think through your 117 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,600 legendary upside Screener. So just curious, your commentary 118 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:59,480 maybe specifically on the pass sketching stuff from a chain, 119 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,160 how excited can we be about that from the prior week? 120 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:06,480 My main feeling is jealousy that Davis got to make this take 121 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,560 because I was also going to say a Chan, I think. 122 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,320 So when I wrote up the legendary scenarios, what jumped out to 123 00:06:13,320 --> 00:06:16,080 me? I always say I'm going to do it 124 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:18,200 a little earlier every year, but then the summer gets busy and I 125 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,080 and I do it sort of towards the end of August. 126 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:23,440 But one of the things I like about doing the article is that 127 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:27,480 it does like make me rethink some things and kind of see 128 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,480 things a little bit differently. And one of the big things that 129 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:35,080 jumped out to me this season was that a chance path was really 130 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,680 through the receiving game that he was, you know, both live. 131 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,720 And probably the easiest way for him to become a legendary back 132 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:46,440 was for him to jump to where he's getting 4 plus receptions 133 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,120 per game. And it seemed like they were 134 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:51,080 pretty interested in him doing that. 135 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,320 And there there wasn't a clear third target there. 136 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,280 And they've been talked up a lot. 137 00:06:55,280 --> 00:06:59,080 As a pass catcher, you often do get players getting talked up as 138 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,040 pass catchers in the offseason. It's kind of a trope. 139 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,840 But second year players is where we actually do see jumps in 140 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:08,440 receiving usage. And given his explosiveness and 141 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:11,040 Mcdaniel's creativity, it seemed pretty, pretty plausible. 142 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:17,280 So to me, him getting was it 7 targets or seven receptions, 7 143 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:22,080 receptions. Anyway, he, I mean, well, him 144 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,000 getting the usage he got was extremely bullish in the 145 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,360 receiving game and then like he was not efficient as a runner 146 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:33,920 this past week, which I mean, to me is just kind of hiding. 147 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:36,600 Like I thought maybe I, you know, you guys wouldn't you 148 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:40,040 wouldn't have this take like I did because he had -17 rush 149 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,000 yards over expected he had a 33% success rate. 150 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,640 Those are both bad numbers, but we know that, you know, HN is 151 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,080 explosive and will have better days as a runner. 152 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:56,480 So to me, like the fact that he scored like 23 PPR points, well 153 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,840 not playing. Good. 154 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,280 Well, not even playing that good. 155 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,440 Yeah, well, not playing good. This is what we need. 156 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,200 Like that's the other thing from a legendary running back. 157 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:07,720 Like we're going to have the huge days, but like not that 158 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,000 this was a floor because that many receptions is never a 159 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:11,920 floor. But it it is nice that he didn't 160 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:16,360 even have to play good to have a huge day on the touchdown thing. 161 00:08:16,360 --> 00:08:19,080 I think he got that. My guess is he got that carry 162 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:22,240 because so they call the play form at the at the. 163 00:08:24,400 --> 00:08:26,920 Three like that is. That's just as bullish. 164 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,520 Well, that that is bullish. And then the fact that they were 165 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,559 like, let him punch it in like he got they didn't review it and 166 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:36,240 they could have reviewed it and they're like, let me let's just 167 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:39,720 give him the touchdown and and then he got it like that all 168 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:43,120 feels, I guess. I think he'll get sniped at the 169 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,320 goal line pretty regularly still, but he's involved is is 170 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:50,680 kind of my take away my play. Exactly. 171 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:53,800 I, I think it's like, call it 5050 at the goal line or 172 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:55,760 something if you want. I, I don't expect HN to have 173 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,200 like a lock on the goal line roll, but they're not subbing 174 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,000 them out intentionally at the goal line either. 175 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,360 So I think that's really, really bullish. 176 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:05,240 And then, yeah, just clearing up the stat line. 177 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:07,160 He had 7 targets and seven receptions. 178 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:10,880 He caught all seven of them. I think like if I was pouring 179 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,880 cold water on this take just to say the other side, I do think 180 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,680 some concerns about the Miami offensive line came to fruition 181 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:20,400 this past week. They struggled a little bit, but 182 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,840 if that means they're just going to get a chain more involved. 183 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:25,120 In the screen. Exactly. 184 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Yeah, they're going to use them as an extension of the running 185 00:09:27,040 --> 00:09:30,040 game in the screen game sort of more creative touches than 186 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:31,200 traditional running back carries. 187 00:09:31,200 --> 00:09:33,440 That's not necessarily a bad thing. 188 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:38,960 So yeah, this this take, I think all three of us fully endorse 189 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:41,480 Pat, I know this was yours that you wanted to give. 190 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,720 Did you have another victory lapping take that you wanted to 191 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:47,120 give a player that you think should be going way up the 192 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,000 rankings after this past week? Yeah, so now I'm going to pivot. 193 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,400 So this isn't actually a player that I was that in on. 194 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:57,480 So I don't know if I'm victory lap, I'm take take your laps if 195 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,760 you this is like. What I thought of this Pat is 196 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,600 like a victory lap for the listeners, right? 197 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:04,200 It it doesn't have to be your victory lap. 198 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:06,960 It's like people who have this guy should be victory lapping if 199 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,160 you want to think about it like that. 200 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,200 OK, OK, well I was. Maybe I'll just switch into a So 201 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,000 the panic button has to be someone who's going lower? 202 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,400 Or can it be someone I'm panicking on for not having 203 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,160 enough of and someone should go lower? 204 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,760 Panic button is someone that should be going way lower. 205 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:26,160 Way lower. If we drafted again today, 206 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,880 they're going way lower. Yeah. 207 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,320 I'll do, I'll do Saquon Barkley 'cause that he was gonna be my 208 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:33,600 panic button for me panicking. But Barkley, I think take your 209 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:37,720 victory laps on him. When I was fading Barkley, which 210 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:42,320 I very much did, I was basically like, all right, it's not that 211 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:47,360 he can't have a great season. It's that he's expensive and he 212 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:49,160 got to he's got to hit this parlay. 213 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:52,280 He's got to in year 7 recapture efficiency. 214 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,360 He hasn't really had since his rookie year. 215 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:59,400 He's he's got to hope the tush push is is an absolute joke 216 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:01,760 without Kelsey, which like, come on, they're going to figure out 217 00:11:01,760 --> 00:11:03,360 how to do that and that won't be a problem. 218 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:07,480 You know, you know, he's like he's got it. 219 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,560 He's got to get that the, you know, the awesome usage in an 220 00:11:10,560 --> 00:11:13,360 offense that hasn't really incorporated the running back 221 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:16,040 that way. DeAndre Swift, you know, was not 222 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,520 used a ton as a receiver there. That's kind of his thing. 223 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,240 And and yet he wasn't. So like it's isn't Hertz just 224 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:23,080 going to push the ball down field and everything? 225 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,640 Like is he really going to be able to be the focal point of 226 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:26,960 this offense? That doesn't make sense. 227 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,240 So that was kind of the parlay I was betting against. 228 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,040 Looks like parlay's hitting push, push. 229 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,160 They can't even snap it. You know, there was the Kelsey 230 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,600 thing was supposed to be that he was going to be able to like 231 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:39,960 push forward. They can't even snap the ball to 232 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,200 Hertz. So push, push dead. 233 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:44,560 You know, Barkley looked awesome. 234 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:49,320 He had 27 rushers over expected. He had a 50% success rate. 235 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:52,120 So the efficiency was really nice. 236 00:11:52,360 --> 00:11:55,560 I think one of the the great things for Berkeley is that he 237 00:11:55,560 --> 00:11:59,680 saw stacked boxes just 25% of the time. 238 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,080 You know, like Gus Edwards was at 45. 239 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:08,000 For comparison, Bijan was at 39. So, you know, if you're if you 240 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,440 were saying, hey, Pat, don't worry about the efficiency, it's 241 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,400 going to be better because he's going to go to the Eagles and 242 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,960 they're not going to be able to account for him. 243 00:12:14,960 --> 00:12:18,160 That looks pretty good. And then they used him a bunch. 244 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,280 You know, he was kind of like the the focal point in some 245 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:24,000 ways. I mean, not totally the the 246 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,720 receivers and A.J. Brown slot a great game and 247 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:30,560 everything, but it it looked a little bit more like like a 248 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:32,880 Saquon offense than I. Really thought it could. 249 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,680 Can I be the the voice of the chasers? 250 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:37,560 Now? Can I be the voice of the person 251 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,320 who who is freaking out? Saquon Barkley's individual 252 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:45,120 brilliance has actually never really been the issue. 253 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,560 Like, even when he was, you know, just toiling away in the 254 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:51,760 minds of Moria in New York, I don't think anyone ever 255 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:54,800 seriously thought he wasn't a good player. 256 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:59,960 I think that one week of the tush push not working to the 257 00:12:59,960 --> 00:13:02,320 degree that they thought. I don't really. 258 00:13:02,320 --> 00:13:05,760 Think that they thought. Yeah, but they thought it would 259 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:08,520 just be as effective that that they basically thought like. 260 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:14,200 I was. I'm not, I'm not, I, I really, 261 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,880 I'm really, I'm really not sweating it. 262 00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:21,520 And, and I think that this will also continue to be, I think 263 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,880 that this will continue to be relatively speaking, a low 264 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:27,840 volume offense. The way that Anthony Richardson 265 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:31,840 just had 40 or the Colts just had 41 pass plays. 266 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,640 I know they played quickly. I know Kellen Moore I like I I 267 00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:37,480 thought the early returns from Kellen Moore were pretty great, 268 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:43,280 but I think this could end up being more of a even even 269 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,880 considering the three touchdowns he already has. 270 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:50,040 If Barkley ended with 12 touchdowns, I'm not super 271 00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:52,120 surprised. Again, I think pretty clearly we 272 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,760 were wrong. The the one play being evidence 273 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:59,600 that we were wrong. DeAndre Swift never would have 274 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,560 gotten that receiving touchdown with Saquon Barkley. 275 00:14:01,560 --> 00:14:02,880 They never would have called that for him. 276 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:03,880 They never would have called it for gain. 277 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,760 Well, they never would have called it for for whoever that 278 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,200 that is. That usage right there is the 279 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,120 number one like all right, well, we really might be wrong. 280 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:14,720 That's the point I wanted to to get to. 281 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:19,440 And again, I just think I can't say that I was taking a ton of 282 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,480 Barkley. I was really skeptical of the 283 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,600 arguments that oh, his yards for route run was terrible the past 284 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:26,920 couple years. Thus he's a bad receiver. 285 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,800 He's he's a running back that gets used downfield in the 286 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,320 passing game. That's something that jumps out 287 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:35,640 in his profile that he consistently has a positive A 288 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,240 dot, whereas tons of running backs have negative A dot. 289 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:41,320 SO I always thought he was a receiving weapon. 290 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,560 Clearly Daniel Jones in New York was not able to unlock that, 291 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,200 even though, you know, Eli Manning clearly was his rookie 292 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,680 year. So I I guess I did see the 293 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:52,640 upside with Barclays receiving more. 294 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,720 And again, he just had two targets in week 1. 295 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:58,000 So let's not go crazy and say that that piece was fully 296 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,400 unlocked. But he did have an A dot of 12 297 00:15:01,520 --> 00:15:04,720 on those two receptions, mostly because of that end zone target 298 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:08,480 that was down the field. But yeah, again, I wish, I wish 299 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,320 I'd drafted more Barkley. I I had a soft fate on him and 300 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:14,560 he's I agree with Pat that he's a guy that I would be moving up 301 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,520 my rest of season rankings considerably just because of the 302 00:15:17,520 --> 00:15:20,080 tush push element. And the fact that I do think 303 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:23,960 it's he's not just, you know, a DeAndre Swift, Miles Sanders 304 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,720 level talent. He is a top five running back 305 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,720 talent in the NFL still, even though his efficiency stuff 306 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,000 looked bad the past couple years. 307 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,240 So I think we got to pay attention to that on one of the 308 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:35,560 best offenses in the NFL with the Eagles. 309 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,600 Yeah, I mean, he, The thing is like in Best Ball he was a lot 310 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,680 cheaper. But in FFPC we're out in Vegas 311 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,800 and he's going at like the 1-2 turn. 312 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:47,240 You know, he he was going ahead of Gibbs and head of JT and 313 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:51,680 stuff and that I'm still pretty comfortable fading. 314 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:55,400 But it's the best Ball stuff where, you know, you could get 315 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,600 them in the late 2nd a decent amount 2-3 turn. 316 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:02,000 And I was kind of like, that's where I feel like, you know, if 317 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:04,760 you're getting him there, you're feeling really good. 318 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:11,760 Got it. Let's move on here to my victory 319 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:15,560 lap player again, This is this is not a guy that I was fully in 320 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:16,920 on. He was someone that I really 321 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:20,160 came around to late in the process the past couple weeks. 322 00:16:20,960 --> 00:16:23,680 It's JK Dobbins. I think we have to be moving 323 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:27,680 Dobbins way, way up the rankings after this past week. 324 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,400 Look, here's the here's the isn't real quick, isn't it? 325 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:34,160 He is who we thought he was. Did anyone think Dobbins was 326 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,200 going to play bad? I think dude, I, I dude. 327 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:38,720 Well, OK. I'm going off the 20 kill. 328 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,200 He's like, yeah, I wasn't sure how much he would play. 329 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:45,480 Yeah, coming off the torn Achilles, I just had no idea how 330 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:47,160 he was going to look. There's so many running backs 331 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,960 that come off that injury and do not look like the same player at 332 00:16:50,960 --> 00:16:52,760 all. We we had Cam Akers that season 333 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:55,040 where he rushed back, came back to the playoffs. 334 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:58,240 He had like 20 carries for 40 yards in the playoff games. 335 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,960 Like had no bursts at all. Like JK Dobbins still has that 336 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:05,920 short area burst. I watched all of his rushes from 337 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,720 this past week over the last couple hours. 338 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,800 Yeah, but yeah, his his short area burst looks really good. 339 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:19,359 Obviously, like on that big run he had, he got caught from 340 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:21,400 behind. Like his long speed. 341 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:23,800 I think it's that same issue we saw a couple years ago. 342 00:17:23,800 --> 00:17:28,079 His long speed's not all the way back, but his ability to read a 343 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:32,920 hole and make a decision and and get like those 510 yard chunk 344 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,160 plays is there. And I don't know, it's just like 345 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:41,280 at the price that we got him at pick 14150 way, way later than 346 00:17:41,280 --> 00:17:44,560 that earlier in the offseason. I think he's a guy that has to 347 00:17:45,120 --> 00:17:48,760 be moving up to your rankings around 80, 80s and 90s, 348 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,360 something like that. I, I still think there's a 349 00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:52,440 concern. Can he hold up over the full 350 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:54,520 season? So I'm not going overboard with 351 00:17:54,520 --> 00:17:54,760 this. I. 352 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:57,280 Mean I, I basically just think we know the answer to that and 353 00:17:57,280 --> 00:17:59,760 the answer is no. I, I think I think the answer to 354 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:03,960 can JK Dobbins with his mismatch size calves hold up for the 355 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:05,720 whole season? I, I, I think it's just no, I 356 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:08,120 just think he. Can't but does he need to like 357 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,440 he already like in in best ball stuff? 358 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:12,640 I mean, I know we don't want zeros at the end and everything, 359 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:17,760 but like this dude, I mean, the look, I completely in early 360 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,680 offseason, I completely faded Dobbins because I was like, he's 361 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,440 coming off the torn to kill. He's like, what are we doing? 362 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,080 But then just the reports were like, yeah, he's like very much 363 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,040 a part of their plans and he looks pretty solid. 364 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:32,000 And so I finally came around and like started taking some of 365 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,080 them. But I often did pair him with 366 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:39,320 Fidel and like to me like that feels really good like that. 367 00:18:39,320 --> 00:18:41,600 That's a victory lap. You know, I'd be happy to take 368 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:44,080 if it no doubt. You know, if if Dobbins bridges 369 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,560 me to Videl, like at this, at the price you got Dobbins, he's 370 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,120 not far from already paying off like he might be like a game 371 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:54,320 from paying off for like what you're really looking for for 372 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:55,880 those. Picks that that I agree with. 373 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:57,920 Yeah, that, that's what I'm saying. 374 00:18:58,080 --> 00:18:59,160 Yeah. Go ahead, Davis. 375 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:02,520 We said that on this program, like we're doing the big board 376 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:06,360 and we're like, we would rather die than take JK Dobbins and buy 377 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:10,320 August 1st. We were like, yeah, you just got 378 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,960 to be buying. You got to be buying Dobbins on 379 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,640 the way up right now. Like 0 Edwards, all Dobbins, all 380 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:17,560 by Dell. Like what I think this is, I 381 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,400 mean, I don't disagree that he should be moving up, but like, 382 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,960 that was kind of what I expected from them in week 1 was for him 383 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,720 to only get like 13 touches but look really good on the ones he 384 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:27,200 did. Yeah. 385 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,680 I guess we just, I want to give him a little bit more credit, 386 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:35,200 Like 10 carries for 135 yards is insane according to NFL Next 387 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:35,880 Gen. Stats. 388 00:19:36,600 --> 00:19:39,920 Plus 10 rush yards over expected per attempt. 389 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:43,520 Like obviously that's. You know one. 11 big run in 390 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:47,160 there excuse that for sure, but the other side of this is Gus 391 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,880 Edwards looked Gus Edwards looked really rough 11 carries 392 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,240 for 26 yards. He had no burst. 393 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,200 He had he had no touches where he got over 15 mph. 394 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,480 Dobbins had two he he was negatives and the rush yards 395 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:02,880 over expected stuff. So I, I think this committee is 396 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:05,320 kind of going One Direction and that's gonna be. 397 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,200 Phase like phasing out Edwards, bringing on Dobbins, hopefully 398 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:10,880 Videl a little bit later in the season. 399 00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:15,440 So yeah, I I guess like maybe this is hot, hot Takey, but I 400 00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:18,680 think I would rank Dobbins in in the 80s nineties. 401 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,400 If I was doing rest of season rankings again, I'd have to go 402 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,800 through all that stuff. But that's like in my head, that 403 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,200 seems right about right after that week 1 performance. 404 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:34,800 All right, let's move on. Let's move on here to the bag 405 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,960 defending takes. Again, this is a player that 406 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,400 maybe the market is panicking on. 407 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,960 They're moving down in the DraftKings best ball 408 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:47,000 tournaments, which have launched by the way, you can draft on 409 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,520 DraftKings best ball Week 2 to the end of the season, and 410 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:53,080 there's AD PS for that. So yeah, a player that maybe the 411 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:56,920 market is panicking on you're not worried about will do 412 00:20:57,120 --> 00:21:00,760 slightly different order here. Give it to Crane first for his 413 00:21:00,800 --> 00:21:08,520 bag defending take. So the what I guess I would just 414 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,360 say upfront is that I think we probably should be bad defending 415 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:15,960 like a fair amount of things this year this week or like 416 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,280 we're it is noisy. So we are going to we are going 417 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,520 to see a bunch of takes that looks silly in retrospect 418 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:25,440 because of one game that didn't go perfectly. 419 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:28,360 We all have very high expectations entering season for 420 00:21:28,360 --> 00:21:32,200 all of our favorite players. I'll say Dowdle. 421 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:34,640 I'm also going to cheat and throw on someone else in a 422 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,200 second. But yeah, I'll see. 423 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:42,280 Rico Dowdell, where you've got Ezekiel Elliott in this game 424 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:47,320 looked absolutely putrid. He had -17 rush yards over 425 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:51,240 expected and a 10% success rate. So that means he had one 426 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,440 positive attempt because he got 10 attempts. 427 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,560 So one of them went well and the rest were bad. 428 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,400 Now you are going to have issues with Elliott stealing goal line 429 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:08,080 work and everything. But the fact that the Dallas 430 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:13,080 Cowboys offense put it on the Browns, who are supposed to have 431 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:16,960 this elite defense. We you know, how many times did 432 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,080 I have to hear about the, the, the, the vibes. 433 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,880 The Cowboys vibes are off. It's the the worst vibes in the 434 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,480 league the the offensive line is bad. 435 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:28,200 Now, well they they did find a team with worse vibes. 436 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,440 They did. They did happen to. 437 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:38,800 Find yeah, they found a team with worse wives, dude, yeah, 438 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:40,160 that's it. It's a it's a vibe. 439 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,520 Seance it's over. They they got rid of it. 440 00:22:42,520 --> 00:22:47,680 So the I mean, this was very bullish to me for the Cowboys 441 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:50,080 offense for them, the ability to put up points. 442 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,240 It didn't go through the running game and it often won't go 443 00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:57,600 through the running game. But like Dauda was so cheap and 444 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,840 you're betting and part a big, big part of the bet was that the 445 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,880 the competition was washed. Dalman Cook couldn't get himself 446 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,560 off the practice squad in Week 1, and Ezekiel Elliott looked as 447 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:12,320 washed as ever. Part of my my case for Elliot is 448 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:14,720 like being OK was that his access rate was still good last 449 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,560 year. It was not good this past week. 450 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:19,960 It's only week Week 1. But this was, I think, sneaky 451 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,920 good for Dowdell's ability to mix in some spike weeks 452 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,680 throughout the season, which is pretty sweet. 453 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,960 You know when you're getting him outside the top 100 picks. 454 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:34,560 Yeah, I'll second that take. And I think just like adding a 455 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:38,000 small part to it, the part I never got about the Rico Dowdle 456 00:23:38,120 --> 00:23:42,400 haters is that I got him this offseason from an ADP of like 457 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:47,200 one Ed in the big board to like a peak of 120 at the very end 458 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:48,320 there. But most of the exposure was 459 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,880 like one 30s, one 40s. If he starts the season in like 460 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,600 a 6040 committee where Zeke is the only impediment, like I 461 00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:58,560 don't get how that's a bad thing. 462 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,560 Like he drafted so many running backs around pick 13140 that do 463 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:06,080 not have week 1 roles. Tyler Algier, Zach Charbonnet, 464 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,680 like that's like handcuff territory. 465 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,360 So if kind of the worst case for Dowdle is he just looks like the 466 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:15,560 handcuffed a Zeke week 1. Like, why is that some end of 467 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:17,600 the world thing? I I don't get the the Rico 468 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:22,200 Dowdle Fader's victory lapse. So yeah, I'll second Pat's take 469 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,400 there that, you know, maybe if you had a move. 470 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:30,800 Yeah, go. Ahead, which yes he was you know 471 00:24:30,800 --> 00:24:34,040 for the potential like for a clear cut hand just for a clear 472 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,520 cut handcuff alone. We thought we were getting that 473 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,240 Blake quorum turns out Ronnie Rivers might be involved there. 474 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:43,000 You know, but like when you get the clear cut handcuff, that 475 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,960 alone is kind of like starts to become interesting around round 476 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,720 10 maybe, you know, round 11. And so the premium you're paying 477 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,240 on just getting the handcuff in Dallas was basically nothing. 478 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,760 And so I mean, he was incredibly cheap. 479 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,600 He was incredibly cheap. Yeah, Davis, anything to add on 480 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:10,000 Rico Dattle or? I mean it like Zeke getting a 481 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:13,920 touchdown in a victory and pass blocking well is definitely not 482 00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:16,720 what you want. It's not perfect. 483 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,440 It's, it's, it's it's not, it's not what you want. 484 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:23,680 I mean, I think that it's this argument is going to sound what 485 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,600 is very similar to what I'm about to say for my bag 486 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,320 defending take. But it's basically that you 487 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:32,320 still have the player who is more likely to add fantasy 488 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,400 points over expectation versus the player that is going to 489 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:40,800 score fantasy points below expectation, which is what we 490 00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:44,560 are going to see from Zeke. Zeke Will like, you know, every 491 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:48,040 game it'll be, oh, he gets, he gets 14 expected points and he 492 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:52,040 will score 12.3. And maybe Dowdell will only be a 493 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,400 complimentary player or maybe he won't because the offense, I 494 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:57,680 mean, Jalen Tolbert was like nothing yesterday. 495 00:25:57,880 --> 00:26:00,400 Jake Ferguson is injured. They like, they're not going to 496 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:04,240 have cakewalks like they will. We're basically maybe the maybe 497 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,480 the maybe the Browns defense is good, but they just were having 498 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,960 to play uphill the whole game because the offense kept putting 499 00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:13,760 them in those holes. There will be spots that the 500 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,880 Cowboys need a little bit more magic basically. 501 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,920 And and Dowdell is much more likely to add that efficiency 502 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,200 than Ezekiel Elliott is. Agreed and. 503 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:27,400 It's a long season, That's it. People are, you know, Zeke 504 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,040 equals points who never said it would look good. 505 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,560 I thought it looked better than that, honestly. 506 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,000 So that's where you're, you know, the idea. 507 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,640 I guess what I would and I would also push back. 508 00:26:37,640 --> 00:26:39,560 Someone said it was the most expensive of the handcuffs. 509 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:42,560 I think it's a pretty big difference between a handcuff, 510 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,800 which I would say Tyler Algier is Braylon Allen is right, and a 511 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,600 guy who's in an ambiguous backfield. 512 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,280 And I think maybe this is probably always a big part of 513 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,200 the Dowdle disagreement that we had, you know, as drafters. 514 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:59,520 But like, to me, this is very clearly much more like a Zach 515 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:04,280 Moss than a Braylon Allen as far as bets go, or like a Chase 516 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:06,960 Brown. This is an ambiguous backfield. 517 00:27:07,360 --> 00:27:10,360 It's much similar to Gus Edwards, JJK, Dobbins, you know 518 00:27:10,360 --> 00:27:13,680 those types of bets. So it didn't hit in huge way 519 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:18,760 Week 1, but Zeke did not solidify the role that I kind of 520 00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,960 am not counting on and like very much not counting on him holding 521 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,520 for the full season in a in a true lead back kind of way. 522 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,360 Yeah, and also the the bad vibes in Dallas stuff. 523 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:35,440 Dak got paid, CD got paid. I think we can maybe move on 524 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,720 from bad vibe season in Dallas I think. 525 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,120 The vibes are better. Yeah, people were far, far 526 00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:45,760 overblowing that situation. I'll move on here to my bag 527 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,960 defending take. This was a guy, again, not a 528 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,240 guy. This was this was not like a 529 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,160 Bang Bank Examiner player for me. 530 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,200 I didn't have 20% plus exposure, but I had a decent bit of tight 531 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,120 end Trey McBride. I checked. 532 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,920 I had 11% of Trey McBride. He's a guy that I'm actually 533 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,080 really excited about after week 1. 534 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,280 He's dropped like 6-7 spots in the DraftKings rest of season 535 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,720 rankings after kind of a quiet week 1 performance. 536 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,520 I think people in general may be panicking a little bit about the 537 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:18,640 lead tight ends, but I thought his usage looked really good in 538 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,240 week 1. He had really a 30% target share 539 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,960 in in that week. He also was used in both the 540 00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:29,400 short area and got chances for big splash plays deep. 541 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:33,280 There were two plays after watching his targets for the 542 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:36,320 past week where Kyler just barely missed him on deep 543 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,200 completions that could have been 30-40 yard plays. 544 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:41,840 There was a deep crosser where he was open and Kyler missed 545 00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:43,240 him. They tried to hit him on a deep 546 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:46,600 seam and Kyler under threw him again. 547 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,560 Maybe you could say that that's part of the problem is that 548 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,320 Kyler has never really been a successful passer in getting the 549 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,080 ball down the field. But even that, I think is 550 00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,120 slightly bullish for McBride. He's going to be the guy that 551 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,320 gets the easy button stuff underneath along with Greg 552 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,000 Dorch. And yeah, we maybe don't have to 553 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,760 go fully into this side of things, but people I think were 554 00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,240 worried about Trey McBride because they saw Marvin Harrison 555 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,320 Junior as a guy that would immediately come in, get a 30% 556 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,320 target share and kind of push him aside. 557 00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:18,520 I think there's enough concern about what we saw in Marvin 558 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,080 Harrison in week one that I think Trey McBride, I feel 559 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,040 better about him being the primary pass catcher in this 560 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,240 offense, at least for a good stretch of the season. 561 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,400 So yeah, if I'm, if I'm buying low on one of these elite tight 562 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:32,720 ends, Trey McBride is the guy that I'm going after. 563 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,600 He's young, still think he showed a ton of bursts in Week 564 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,240 1. And I'm not overreacting too 565 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,040 much to kind of a weak box box score. 566 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,440 He was like 2 near misses away from just like smashing. 567 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,760 Like he very easily could have been the recipient of the 568 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:48,680 touchdown on the Kyler scramble drill. 569 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,560 I, I, I've seen this take floating around this morning 570 00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:54,600 that people were like disappointed with how Kyler 571 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:59,280 played like Kyler like had them in a position to win a road game 572 00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,600 against the team that is third in the odds to win the Super 573 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,400 Bowl and like scrambled pretty well. 574 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,920 Like played pretty effectively. I, I guess you could be, you 575 00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:13,360 could be fairly upset that they, they didn't get the win in the 576 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,880 end. But yeah, I, I, if you could get 577 00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,720 McBride in any of your home leagues or I mean, even die if 578 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,840 there's a Bilo window in dynasty right now, like like this is a, 579 00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:28,400 this is a great, this is a great time to, to be selling picks to 580 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,640 2025 picks because everyone's watching these college games and 581 00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:35,040 Ashton Gene T is on pace for like 9,000,000 yards and things 582 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,600 like that. I, I would be trying to acquire 583 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:41,840 McBride and, and to be honest, the, the Marv stuff is like, 584 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,480 that's just going to, that's just going to take care of 585 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:47,200 itself. Like Greg Dorch is probably a 586 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,040 better and more professional wide receiver than him at this 587 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:52,040 point. But as Greg Dorch's biggest fan, 588 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:56,000 you you can't build the whole plane out of Greg Dorch throws. 589 00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:00,280 Pat Any. Yeah, I mean Harrison not 590 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,080 hitting the ground running. I think Harrison not hitting the 591 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:04,640 ground running is is good for him. 592 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:09,640 I you know, I think that for bag defending Harrison, that would 593 00:31:09,640 --> 00:31:13,720 also make sense where, you know, although he was very heralded, I 594 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:18,520 expected his debut to be better. He's a rookie wide receiver and 595 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,320 so we shouldn't judge his career off of one game or even his 596 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:22,960 rookie season off of his first game. 597 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:27,800 So I do think that McBride probably does face headwinds 598 00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:31,720 from Harrison at some point. But certainly this is bullish 599 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,800 that that Harrison wasn't immediately like the key to the 600 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,760 offense that they're, you know, the engine of the offense. 601 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,520 Yeah, I'd also just encourage Hayden Winks in his not, not his 602 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:44,040 main Twitter account. I think he has one called Winks 603 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,200 tape. He did an interesting cut up of 604 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,120 Marvin Harrison's routes from week one. 605 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,880 Just just some some weird stuff going on there. 606 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,040 I'm I'm definitely not overreacting to that too much. 607 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:57,120 I still think Marvin Harrison's going to have a good season, but 608 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,880 it was it wasn't ugly to debut. It's fair to say that it was a 609 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,680 pretty, pretty bad debut for Marvin Harrison. 610 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,760 So it's just something worth noting, something to keep track 611 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,520 of. Davis, I'll give it to you for 612 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:14,960 your bag defending player. Yeah, I mean, look, I think 613 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,840 people probably want me to be like, oh, Chase Brown, He's 614 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,440 going zero. He he doesn't have a role. 615 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,200 That really was not my perception of the game. 616 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,920 He actually played on more of the passing downs than I thought 617 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:27,960 he would. Now like the obvious pass 618 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,880 blocking spots. Zac Moss came in, but it seemed 619 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,960 like they made a real seemed like they made a real effort to 620 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,720 get him the ball as a receiver. I mean, I think you probably 621 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:43,720 would have, you probably would have preferred for him there for 622 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,840 Zach Moss to not be efficient with the one goal line touch 623 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,840 that he did. But it's also like, you know, I 624 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:51,920 I'm familiar with Zach Moss's work. 625 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:55,960 Like, I think Zach Moss is a perfectly competent NFL running 626 00:32:55,960 --> 00:33:00,120 back, but he's not very similar to how Pat feels about Zeke. 627 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:04,480 Like, Moss is not going to be the straw that stirs the drink 628 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,920 and all. I mean, does Chase Brown have 629 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:08,200 the greatest vision in the world? 630 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,800 Obviously not. There was one run where he could 631 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,960 have cut it to the outside and he had a bunch of space and he 632 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:17,080 did not do that. It was sort of Trent Richardsony 633 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:19,480 where he just went right into the right in the line. 634 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:23,880 And I mean, also like we were making fun of the Browns for 635 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,200 having bad vibes. The Bengals, I guess the Bengals 636 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:29,880 don't have they like their quarterback, like their 637 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:32,480 quarterback is like a a person that people like. 638 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,000 But I mean, the shit, I'm going to forget the name of the guy. 639 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,560 Someone just posted a podcast this morning that Joe Goodberry 640 00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:44,400 was doing quotes from where it was someone who was in the camp 641 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,160 with like talking to Jamar Chase's camp. 642 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:49,800 And Jamar Chase's camp was like, this shit sucks, dude. 643 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,880 Like he's having a bad time. He would like to get paid. 644 00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:56,360 The Bengals basically don't have the cash on hand to pay him. 645 00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:59,680 Everyone kind of knows that. So it just sucks. 646 00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:01,920 Like it the the the it's it's bad. 647 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:03,360 Davis, I have I have a question for you. 648 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:07,040 Are you doing the the the wind horse meme with the T Higgins 649 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,320 hamstring injury at all? Like do you think? 650 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,280 Oh. Do you think there's anything 651 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,480 there? No, no. 652 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,600 I'm saying that like you look at all the wide receivers. 653 00:34:17,920 --> 00:34:19,199 It all fell apart without them, Sam. 654 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,320 It fell apart without them. That's that's very curious. 655 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,120 But the angle I was going with is that literally all the wide 656 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,440 receivers in Higgins and Chase's draft class have gotten the bag. 657 00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:35,719 Ayuk, Amanra, Jefferson, Devonta Smith, Nico Collin, you can name 658 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,280 any good wide receiver. Even even Jerry Judy got a bag 659 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,360 from that draft class and these two guys are way better. 660 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,400 He wasn't in that. Draft. 661 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:45,840 He was not in Higgins draft. Class. 662 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,120 He was in the draft class after that, no. 663 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,239 The Chase draft class. He was in the draft class after. 664 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,280 OK, what? Sorry. 665 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,920 Are we talking? But here are we talking chased. 666 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:58,240 My point is both both of their draft classes, every good wide 667 00:34:58,240 --> 00:35:01,840 receiver in both of their draft classes have gotten paid. 668 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,000 They are literally the two guys that have not gotten paid. 669 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,240 So it, it must just like the point Davis is saying it must 670 00:35:09,240 --> 00:35:12,440 just suck for them knowing that they're good enough to get this 671 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:16,240 $80 million guaranteed contract and the Bengals are too cheap to 672 00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:18,640 pay it like that. That must just suck for them 673 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,560 going out every game knowing if they tear their Achilles, tear 674 00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,960 their ACL, they're not financially protected, 675 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,600 protected. So I am, I don't know. 676 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,960 I'm, I'm still giving the Bengals the benefit of the doubt 677 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,560 a little bit, you know, compared to some other disastrous week 1 678 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,280 performances from like the Browns, for example. 679 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:37,600 Like I do think the Bengals will figure this out, but man, it, it 680 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:39,480 does. It does suck for these two top 681 00:35:39,480 --> 00:35:42,320 wide receivers to not have the. Financial security that they 682 00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:46,280 deserve so like Windhor, the windhorse meme would be like I 683 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:51,720 think T Higgins hamstring probably was hurt, but was it 684 00:35:51,720 --> 00:35:56,160 really hurt or was it hurt? You know, so it's like I and, 685 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,560 and can you blame him like to? Your point? 686 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,440 No, can't blame him at all. If your if your hamstring is 687 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:06,480 injured and you could probably play, but it would be pushing it 688 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,040 and you'd you'd maybe be suffering a compensation injury, 689 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,560 why would you play? Yeah, that that's, that's The 690 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,240 thing is that I'm just worried that both of these guys, like 691 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,880 are they going to be fighting to get back on the field if they're 692 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,120 banged up, knowing their their situation? 693 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:24,440 I mean, Chase chase played well. Chase was like the only Bengal 694 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:29,280 who like looked like, I mean all like Yoshi boss pretty miscast 695 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:33,240 as like, I mean, he he literally had a 100% snap and route share 696 00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,840 like which is not really that fair to Yoshi boss. 697 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:41,840 And also watching that offense. If I could sell my Jermaine 698 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,280 Burton teams, if I could sell any Jermaine Burton share that I 699 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:48,640 had for $0.05 on the dollar. Like Jermaine Burton couldn't 700 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,760 get on the field with Charlie Jones and Trent Erwin running 701 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,920 routes and they're they're losing at home to the Patriots. 702 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,120 Like my God dude, how much do the coaches hate him? 703 00:36:59,240 --> 00:37:02,320 Yeah, he he's not going back. It's over, I think I mean like 704 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,520 the the reports are really bad on like his, you know, he's not 705 00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:08,680 doing what he's supposed to do off the field and stuff. 706 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,000 He's got to just be a Dick. Yeah. 707 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,640 Going back to the the Chase Brown side of things, Pat, any, 708 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:19,240 any notes that on the on the Brown Moss split you're with 709 00:37:19,240 --> 00:37:22,440 Davis that we shouldn't be reacting too much negatively for 710 00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,800 Brown here? I mean, I'm definitely probably 711 00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,840 a little more concerned than Davis just because I thought 712 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,760 Zach Moss looked good and he looked like he was like cutting 713 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,560 the ball up field quickly, you know, like he was doing. 714 00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,360 If I'm concerned about Chase Brown, it's that it's that he's 715 00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:44,080 kind of this like home run hitting back, but to a fault. 716 00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:47,720 And you have you're sharing a backfield. 717 00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:51,040 That is true. Yeah, I'm sharing a backfield 718 00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,120 with a guy who just like, gets the job done. 719 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:56,560 And Moss, you know, I thought looked pretty good. 720 00:37:56,560 --> 00:38:00,440 He he had a 67% success rate per NFL Next Gen. 721 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:07,120 Brown was actually at 67% too. So maybe, maybe ultimately, you 722 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:11,960 know, it's not a big deal, but like Moss got more work. 723 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,240 He got 9 carries, Brown got three and he looked pretty 724 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,440 effective and kind of did his job. 725 00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:20,880 So I think I, I'm definitely a little more concerned one 726 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:25,080 because like Moss looked pretty good, not amazing, but like, 727 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,520 like, you know, we thought he might and then the offense 728 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:32,600 looked so discombobulated and like, when does this end? 729 00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:36,240 Like this is a, I guess we're just like not used to this. 730 00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:37,640 You know, this isn't supposed to happen. 731 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:39,040 We're this is a league with parody. 732 00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,680 This is a league, you know, where they like actually share 733 00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,240 the money and stuff and and all of these franchises have the 734 00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:47,200 ability to compete. Like the Bengals did this to 735 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,760 themselves. There's such a like, this is not 736 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:50,960 a league. We're supposed to have stuff 737 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:54,000 like this. I'm they need that private 738 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,440 equity a. Little bit. 739 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,600 Worried. Yeah, this this man. 740 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:01,280 They voted against it. They were. 741 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,600 They were the one. They were the one team that 742 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,160 voted against the private equity. 743 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:08,880 Yeah, I mean it. It's. 744 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,400 Like they know, They know if private equity comes in like 745 00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,640 they're toast, they're not going to have to. 746 00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:17,520 Yeah, they're. The first, they're the first 747 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:19,880 target for sure. It's like you guys can't figure 748 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,640 out how to play, how to pay Jamar Chase and D Higgins. 749 00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:25,160 We we could probably just do that. 750 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,520 But yeah, I am giving the Bengals a little bit of the 751 00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:32,040 benefit of the doubt. It's been like three years in a 752 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,720 row where the Bengals come into Week 1 and look like dog shit 753 00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:37,480 and figure out a way to turn it around. 754 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:42,520 Yeah, so I I am not like full blown panicking on them, but 755 00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:45,880 it's definitely worth monitoring how bad they looked. 756 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,440 Also worth saying Patriots defense is going to be like a 757 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,520 top five defense. So again, maybe, maybe it wasn't 758 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:52,680 the best. Sell for that. 759 00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,880 We'll see. We we, we I don't know. 760 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,680 We'll, we'll see. I I, I suspect, I suspect much 761 00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:02,960 of that game was about the borough, the Bengals having a 762 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,000 shitty game plan. Just like general unhappiness, 763 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,520 general unpreparedness, general general Bengals bullshit. 764 00:40:09,720 --> 00:40:12,320 As opposed to the Patriots playing super well. 765 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,640 Got it. That's the part that would 766 00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:19,360 probably concern me the most. Like from a bag defending 767 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,320 perspective, Chase Brown's still going to hit some big plays. 768 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,720 So I I am I. Think so that so that all would. 769 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,200 Him makes sense. Let's. 770 00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,760 Let's do this to close out this conversation. 771 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,840 Imagine ADP doesn't exist. You have one team. 772 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:38,040 Your choice is Zach Moss or Chase Brown. 773 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,880 Got to be Moss. It's got to it's got to be, it's 774 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:42,280 got to be Moss. It's got to be Moss. 775 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,600 Right now it's Moss. It's Moss Head. 776 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:48,600 Yeah, OK, yeah, got it. All right, let's move on here to 777 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,520 the panic button player. I'll I'll go first here again. 778 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,920 This is a player that you think should be going way down the 779 00:40:55,920 --> 00:41:00,520 rankings after week 1. Again, I I didn't have exposure 780 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:05,120 to this player, but the one guy I would move down the most in 781 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,760 like a best best ball style format after week 1 is Kirk 782 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:13,720 Cousins. Man it I I watched that Falcon 783 00:41:13,720 --> 00:41:16,720 Steelers game. I get the Steelers defense is 784 00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:18,480 likely to be one of the better units of the league. 785 00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,560 Their online was getting beat up, but something does not look 786 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:26,200 right with Kirk Cousins leg. He he was just not able to plant 787 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,400 on his throws and drive the ball down the field when he tried to 788 00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,280 do so. There's a couple passes where he 789 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,520 skipped the ball like 5-6 feet in front of the receiver a 790 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:38,280 couple times where his accuracy was just way off. 791 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,160 I, I kind of, you know, Kirk Cousins, he's never been a 792 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,440 mobile guy, but he's always been someone who's been able to like 793 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,760 maneuver in the pocket, have confidence and sling the ball. 794 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,600 He looked kind of timid in that game, did not. 795 00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,480 Luckily, he had very much strength. 796 00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,640 I am putting a little frankly, like maybe it's conspiracy 797 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,440 theory season. I'm putting a little bit more 798 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,240 weight into now the Pennex getting benched after like 10 799 00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:04,760 snacks. Oh my gosh, yeah, you you have 800 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,800 to. Yeah. 801 00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:07,480 I mean, how about the Pennex pick in general? 802 00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,320 How about they they sign Cousins to this contract, they get him 803 00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,920 in the building and they're like, oh shit, dude. 804 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:18,880 Yeah, so again, I, I let's start with the Cousins part of the 805 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,040 conversation first. We can get to the pass catchers, 806 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:25,640 but I'll kick it to you first. Davis, do you agree that it's 807 00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:27,600 it's panic button time for Kirk Cousins? 808 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,880 Yeah, I mean, look, if we were redrafting a new contest on 809 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:35,360 Underdog today, I would move him down to the Bonex. 810 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:40,240 Drake may like not anticipating getting 17 games out of him, and 811 00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:42,320 I would. I mean, I was not a London guy 812 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,920 anyways, because much like you, I'm a gentleman of distinction 813 00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:46,480 who took Nicole Collins over him. 814 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:51,360 But London would now be a Devante. 815 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:55,600 You were Adams was wide receiver 16, wide receiver 17 right about 816 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,560 there. I I would move London all the 817 00:42:57,560 --> 00:43:01,080 way down there in my redrapped rankings, weirdly enough, I I 818 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,480 would completely leave Pitts where he was. 819 00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,440 Pitts 100% of routes. It's all I ever it's all I ever 820 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,160 wanted from him. In fact, I would maybe even move 821 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:10,720 Pitts. Yeah. 822 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,200 I know Pitts might actually go up. 823 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:17,080 Yeah. Do you agree with that Pat on 824 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:20,880 the cousin side of things that he should be are are you because 825 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,960 I I think I agree with Davis. Like I think I'm moving him down 826 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,480 to like one 70s as opposed to one 20s one 30s maybe even 827 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,120 later, to be honest, but possum overreacting. 828 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,600 What do you think? Well, there, you know, in the 829 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,120 back of my mind, during draft season, it was always like, how 830 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:41,960 safe is he for Week 17? Like what if they missed the 831 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,760 playoffs? Are we getting we're getting a 832 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,520 Pennex audition, you know, and that always felt a little bit 833 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:53,360 like cowardly because it's like, look, man, like he's such an 834 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,840 upgrade on Ritter. They're going to be such an 835 00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:59,560 upgrade on Arthur Smith. Like, you know, it's a weak 836 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,880 division. Like it'll be fine. 837 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,320 Like don't, don't get overly caught up in kind of these tail 838 00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:09,480 scenarios. It don't feel so tail anymore. 839 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:13,840 You know, this is this is it's kind of easier to imagine them 840 00:44:13,840 --> 00:44:15,760 checking out Michael Pennix at the end of the season. 841 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,360 And that is just such just an absolute disaster for best ball 842 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,520 teams because, you know, we we might only have one other 843 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,680 quarterback right on these teams. 844 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,920 Like if you if your quarterback gets benched and a guy like 845 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,080 Cousins, it's like for what, you know, what was the upside? 846 00:44:32,240 --> 00:44:35,240 And then you're taking on this dude who got benched like so 847 00:44:35,240 --> 00:44:37,960 easily replaceable with guys going around him. 848 00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:39,920 You know, like, what's really difference between like him and 849 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:44,480 Goff or him and you know, Rodgers or him and Stafford? 850 00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:46,880 You know, these guys are like definitely weren't going to get 851 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:49,160 benched. It just, you know, that little 852 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,600 voice maybe should have been a little louder after after 853 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:53,120 watching this game. Now that I have the hindsight 854 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,840 bias, so it it's a he's a little easier for me to panic on for 855 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,840 that reason. It's like the bottom could 856 00:44:57,840 --> 00:45:00,400 actually fall out from a best ball perspective. 857 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,520 Yeah. The one other note I'll add on 858 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,800 Cousins, this is from Mark Raymondi. 859 00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:08,680 I apologize, Mark, if I'm pronouncing. 860 00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,760 Your name on the. Yeah, he he's a Falcons beat 861 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,040 reporter. That that was one thing, a lack 862 00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,360 of play action. The other really weird thing for 863 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:20,840 a supposedly, you know, Shanahan style offense, they ran one 864 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,520 offensive play with Kirk Cousins under center. 865 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:27,720 The rest was out of pistol and shotgun pistol, a pretty weird 866 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:29,920 formation to use for your based offense. 867 00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:32,440 I think that's maybe because they don't have faith in Cousins 868 00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,120 taking a snap under center and like running out to hand the 869 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,240 ball off to the running back or I don't know. 870 00:45:37,240 --> 00:45:41,160 But it it was a lot of weird pistol stuff tosses the Bijan 871 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:44,520 keeping cousins like really statuesque in the pocket. 872 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,720 So that that's an alarm bell data point for me. 873 00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:50,080 They don't even have the faith to have him under center. 874 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:54,600 Just just kind of weird stuff in Atlanta as far as the pass 875 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,680 catchers go. We we can have that 876 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:59,280 conversation. I think the the presence of 877 00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:05,120 Tenex is a pretty good backstop for for Pitts and London. 878 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,640 I don't want to have a ton of takeaways after this past week. 879 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:12,480 In terms of the past catchers, it really wasn't. 880 00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,240 I never. Thought I never thought London 881 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:17,440 was good, so that's easy for me to just update my priors and be 882 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,200 like, well I'm not a London guy so yeah. 883 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:23,080 Yeah as far as Cousins is in there, I think it's gonna be 884 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,440 like PPR scam season for Bijon. Tons of dump offs and screens. 885 00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,080 Like. Think think Big Ben to Naji 886 00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,640 Harris. Remember when Big Ben targeted 887 00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:33,680 Naji Harris like 16 times in the game? 888 00:46:33,680 --> 00:46:35,760 I think, I think we'll. See, they built, they built the 889 00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:37,720 whole plane out of Bijon Robinson. 890 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:40,360 The whole thing is it's all Bijon. 891 00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:42,560 Yeah. And the last thing I'll say, I 892 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,840 know you guys I gotta, I gotta get a little pits butt in there 893 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:48,560 100% route rate. That's good. 894 00:46:49,720 --> 00:46:54,360 The targets not good. The three targets is crazy. 895 00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:56,480 No 3. Targets is not. 896 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,960 This is this is I. I'm not here and I'm not here. 897 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,320 No, all all. What I'll say on Pitts is 898 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,400 everyone's saying they're going to get Pitts involved in the 899 00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,160 short area of the field. He's going to get the easy 900 00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,800 button stuff. Kyle Pitts is not good at the 901 00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,960 easy button stuff. He's not a guy you want catching 902 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:13,680 a pass and running after the catch. 903 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:18,240 He's actually not good at that. He's not get it running after 904 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:19,600 the catch. There's. 905 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,760 No way you could say that. He's like the worst yak tight 906 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,800 end like in the data. All of his stats are like 907 00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,560 they're Desmond Ritter, Marcus Mariota. 908 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:33,520 Like I think the fact that he ran 100% of routes as a tight 909 00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,120 end, as a tight end, like think of like Sam, like they're coming 910 00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:41,960 in with a new system. They're coming in and you know, 911 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,600 like we don't really know how they actually feel about Pitts. 912 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:47,760 Obviously gonna they're gonna say nice things, but he hasn't 913 00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:49,160 been that great over the last couple years. 914 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:50,440 Like his stats haven't been good. 915 00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:52,960 He had the really good rookie year and then it's it's not been 916 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:58,200 so great since The fact that they had him run around on 100% 917 00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,400 of drop backs is like kind of insanely bullish from The Who 918 00:48:02,400 --> 00:48:04,560 they think he could be in their offense perspective. 919 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:08,040 Now you're right, like maybe he just isn't good that like we, we 920 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:15,000 don't have much more evidence of that, but it's going to be thin 921 00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:17,080 because it's one week. So it's going to be hard for us 922 00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,040 to take too much away of like, is he actually, you know, better 923 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:23,400 or worse than we thought? But we can get a pretty good 924 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,400 sense of what his role in the offense is going to be. 925 00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,000 I mean Titans just don't really get used like this. 926 00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:34,520 Yeah, again, I, I, I had a really that long DM conversation 927 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:35,800 with Leonie last night. He got. 928 00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:36,120 Really. Yeah. 929 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:38,480 And Leonie is. And Leonie is right, dude. 930 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:42,000 Let me be clear that I I don't think 100% route participation 931 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:45,560 is bad. I just don't think 33 targets 932 00:48:45,720 --> 00:48:49,320 when Ray Ray McLeod had like 7 is good. 933 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:50,840 So but. Your bar's a little high isn't 934 00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,240 it? Like if he got, if he got 5 935 00:48:52,240 --> 00:48:54,480 targets on 100% round participation, we'd be like, he 936 00:48:54,480 --> 00:48:55,400 should have been a second round pick. 937 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,240 If he got 7 targets, he'd be like he should have been the 938 00:48:57,240 --> 00:48:58,560 first round pick. Why were you even? 939 00:48:58,720 --> 00:49:00,560 Why was there even a discussion about who the tight end 1 was 940 00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,600 like we would be? You're basically you're setting 941 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:06,320 the bar at just below levels where we would go nuts. 942 00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:09,600 Seriously. With 100% round participation, 943 00:49:09,600 --> 00:49:12,080 if he had 7 targets we would be going nuts. 944 00:49:13,000 --> 00:49:14,120 Who? Who is the Falcons? 945 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,560 Like back up tight end? Like who? 946 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:17,520 Who is the guy they're supposed to be using over him? 947 00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,680 I don't. We learn names all the time. 948 00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,160 We learn names constantly. Is it still Charlie Warner? 949 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:25,560 I actually already knew that name. 950 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,640 That's a name already know. I don't know, man. 951 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,240 I, I, I guess here's the thing. I think there was a version of 952 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,880 this offense where they found a way. 953 00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,400 People were saying stuff like they're going to use Kyle Pitts 954 00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,080 in like the puka Nakua role in the Rams offense. 955 00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:44,120 Like tons of pre snap motion scheming up on, on tons of 956 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,520 crossers and stuff underneath. I didn't see the in the ram. 957 00:49:47,520 --> 00:49:49,000 I mean the, the Falcons in week 1. 958 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,520 I didn't see them going out there and being like, yeah, Kyle 959 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:54,360 Pitts is one of the focal points of our offense. 960 00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:57,200 And I thought that was part of the thesis of of him having good 961 00:49:57,240 --> 00:49:57,880 seasons. He. 962 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:00,960 Did he was one of the focal points? 963 00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:03,400 He was out there. Like this is this is peak, this 964 00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:06,840 is peak ADP chasing right now. It's just like. 100% of route 965 00:50:07,960 --> 00:50:10,560 like you can find guys who run 100% of route like Alec Pierce 966 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,120 ran 100% of routes in like all the games last year. 967 00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:17,080 He's a wide receiver. If Alec Pierce had tight end 968 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,320 eligibility he would be fucking sick. 969 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:23,000 Kate Alec Pierce, Kate Aughton. He just caught a. 970 00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,920 Couple long touch kills. Kate Aughton and Colby Parkinson 971 00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:29,280 are gonna be running 8090% of the routes I. 972 00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,560 Mean and Colby Parkinson is one of the biggest. 973 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,360 Like he'd be like the Titan he's in. 974 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:37,000 A big draft, yeah, but would you draft Colby Parkinson in the 975 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:39,040 sixth round over George Kittle and Brock Bowers? 976 00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:40,840 Kilby Parkinson is not as good as Kyle is. 977 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:44,400 Dude, your, your argument really falls apart because Drake London 978 00:50:44,680 --> 00:50:48,680 had three targets like Darnell Mooney had three targets. 979 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,800 They, they gave Ray Ray McLeod 6 targets like the offense wasn't 980 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,240 functioning like we were expecting it to. 981 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:58,920 And as you pointed out, it's largely because Kirk Cousins 982 00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:03,440 looked really bad. So from the Cousins is, is, you 983 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,560 know, having trouble coming back from this Achilles tear. 984 00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:08,720 Uh oh perspective. I am not pushing back. 985 00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,360 That is concerning. But from like somehow this isn't 986 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:14,560 reflective of them use utilizing pits as a big part of their 987 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:16,720 offense because they only had three targets when he tied with 988 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:18,800 Drake London and Darnell Mooney, the other two guys we would 989 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,040 expect to be a big part of their offense. 990 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,760 It just, it's a stretch. It's like, I don't know, it 991 00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,600 almost seems like you didn't like Kyle Pitts in the 1st place 992 00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,280 and you're interpreting through it that. 993 00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:30,680 You're letting you're letting in 2019. 994 00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,800 You're letting your 2019 Debbie takes impact your 2025. 995 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:36,560 That's what people are doing with Kyle Pitts. 996 00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,240 Come on, man, Come on. Like we, we. 997 00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:42,880 The the ski targets is everyone else Like why is it bad for him 998 00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:45,080 because Drake? When is Drake London not 999 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:48,000 actually a part of this offense? Is Drake Drake actually the 1000 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,040 third wide receiver? Cause 'cause he didn't get more 1001 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:52,800 targets than Darnell Mooney, he got Drake. 1002 00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:54,920 Lennon had half the target of Ray Ray McCloud. 1003 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:57,200 Is he basically a wide receiver 4IN his own team? 1004 00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:01,200 I'm just asking questions. OK, but but Drake London didn't 1005 00:52:01,200 --> 00:52:04,880 get you know out produced by Jonny Smith last year. 1006 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,920 Drake London was actually good last year. 1007 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,320 Like don't, don't we have? Drake Drake London was not 1008 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,960 actually good last year. He wasn't. 1009 00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,800 Compared to compared to Kyle Pitts, he was actually really 1010 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,680 good. And also I don't know, man, it's 1011 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:23,840 he, he, we, we have two years, two years of data on Kyle Pitts 1012 00:52:23,840 --> 00:52:25,400 not being that good before this year. 1013 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:30,240 So I don't know, let's move on here to panic button player for 1014 00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,840 Davis. Dantavian Wicks because just 1015 00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,720 like there's no foreseeable way for him to pay off now with 1016 00:52:37,720 --> 00:52:41,120 Jordan love injured like it's it's completely done and dusted 1017 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,720 and over It's just not happening. 1018 00:52:42,720 --> 00:52:45,920 He's a he's a drop you you can just completely move on from 1019 00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,560 that guy. He he would go down a lot, a lot 1020 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:58,960 of spots at wide receiver and any any Bears wide receiver, 1021 00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,240 just like Bears wide receiver takes in general because Caleb 1022 00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:06,040 did not hit the ground running. But like I, I truly in my heart 1023 00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:10,560 of hearts believed Caleb was coming out 260 passing yards, 1024 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:12,920 65% completion. Just like kind of like really 1025 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:17,240 competently looking not at this panic button is like, not like 1026 00:53:17,240 --> 00:53:19,480 I'm sending them to 0 you. Just took mine. 1027 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,360 You took mine because you did two? 1028 00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,160 Yeah, sorry. I was going to do the bears. 1029 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,360 You can do the bears, do the bears do the bears. 1030 00:53:28,720 --> 00:53:31,040 All right, because I was actually going to take it from 1031 00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:37,400 the the wide receivers perspective where like I think 1032 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,000 it was on sickos. We did like a aren't you worried 1033 00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,240 episode and I didn't aren't you worried on the bears? 1034 00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,960 Like where we we know that these rookie wide receiver or these 1035 00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,480 rookie quarterbacks don't really support weapons at a high rate, 1036 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,800 but we just saw with Stroud and we, you know, Caleb's going to 1037 00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,720 be this same prospect. He's going to be awesome right 1038 00:53:59,720 --> 00:54:02,200 away. And so, in fact, what we should 1039 00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:06,800 do is take three of his wide receivers in the top 65 picks. 1040 00:54:06,800 --> 00:54:11,440 That's that's definitely going to work and didn't work this 1041 00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:14,400 this past week. DJ Moore led the group with 1.16 1042 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,520 yards per hour on Keenan Allen, 1.12. 1043 00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:20,120 No one told me that the fat Keenan thing was about his 1044 00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,280 ability to get his hands up. I didn't realize that was the 1045 00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:26,600 problem. Roma Doonsday, 0.39 yards per 1046 00:54:26,600 --> 00:54:28,160 hour. I only had one reception on 1047 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,960 three targets. Obviously they'll have better 1048 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:34,320 days, but it did. You know, you look at the EPA 1049 00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,760 per play and Caleb Williams was really, really bad. 1050 00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:41,600 The only quarterbacks worse in EPA per plays, like tied with 1051 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,640 Cousins. And then the guys worse were 1052 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:46,600 Bryce Young, Will Levis Bonex, Daniel Jones and Deshaun Watson. 1053 00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:52,120 So it was definitely like, was it a concerning debut from will 1054 00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:53,920 Caleb Williams be a good NFL quarterback? 1055 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:57,800 Not really. Was it a concerning debut from a 1056 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,880 we drafted his weapons like he was immediately going to be 1057 00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,800 awesome. Yeah, it was a little 1058 00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:07,120 concerning. Yeah, I I think I would give 1059 00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,440 Caleb and the weapons a little bit more time. 1060 00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,800 One one note, there is. Of course I'm not. 1061 00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:13,600 I'm not. I didn't mean to send that to 0, 1062 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,960 but this panic meter is about I'm very financially and all of 1063 00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:18,720 these players, yeah, relative panic. 1064 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:21,400 Yeah, me too. Yeah, yeah, not so much more 1065 00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:22,920 'cause he was the most expensive, but. 1066 00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:28,240 Yeah, I I think that, yeah, I don't know, I'm going to give 1067 00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:31,880 Caleb a couple weeks before I have any sweeping judgements on 1068 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:33,400 him, but I definitely agree it was concerning. 1069 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,840 The Shane Waldron stuff is starting to creep up in my mind 1070 00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,360 more and more knowing that he's in charge there and after we saw 1071 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:42,360 what happened in Seattle last year. 1072 00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:45,560 So that that one definitely makes sense to me. 1073 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,040 Worth noting, Keenan Allen suffered a hamstring or foot 1074 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,080 injury. I don't know if it was actually 1075 00:55:49,080 --> 00:55:51,480 disclosed what the injury was at the end of the game, Was it? 1076 00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:54,880 OK, so that was the same injury he had coming into the game. 1077 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,680 So that's something worth noting. 1078 00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,720 It could get really concentrated to a Doonese and. 1079 00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:03,240 That would help if he's. Out, yeah, it would help if he's 1080 00:56:03,240 --> 00:56:05,400 out and they. Yeah, the other other note I 1081 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,280 wanted to add, I think it was Jacob Gibbs on Twitter did he 1082 00:56:09,280 --> 00:56:12,160 showed the wide receivers that had the most pre snap motion 1083 00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:15,240 routes ran for them. It was Keenan Allen, which 1084 00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:19,600 strikes me as a little bit weird to make him the focal point of 1085 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:22,400 the motion stuff over someone like DJ Moore. 1086 00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:26,080 So I wonder if that shifts a little bit this next week, 1087 00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:27,560 especially obviously if Keenan's out. 1088 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,240 But yeah, Keenan. Keenan was not particularly 1089 00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:33,080 efficient out there even though he got peppered with targets. 1090 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:39,600 OK, so that was both you and Pat's take Davis. 1091 00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,240 Or did someone want to give one more or we? 1092 00:56:42,920 --> 00:56:49,080 Well I just said I mean Wix is like send send every Packer but 1093 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:53,360 Jaden Reed to like absolute not startable in 12 team league 0 1094 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,120 until Jordan Love gets back. Yeah, this is a good point from 1095 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,560 Nathan Roof. The the pre stop motion for 1096 00:56:57,560 --> 00:56:59,160 Keenan was just to to get his weight down. 1097 00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:07,040 They're just trying. To DJ they they asked DJ more 1098 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:09,440 about Keenan. They asked DJ more about Keenan 1099 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:11,880 after the game and they said. They said. 1100 00:57:12,360 --> 00:57:14,640 They said he's fine. He's just old, they say. 1101 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:20,840 Just an old guy. Oh my God, dude, what is OK? 1102 00:57:20,920 --> 00:57:25,600 The the the last rant I have about Waldron using Gerald 1103 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:28,640 Everett as a feature tight end over Cole Comet is going to be 1104 00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:32,160 one of the most donkey bro. I'm not saying yeah, I'm not 1105 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:34,040 saying Comet's like some amazing guy. 1106 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,960 I'm not like a huge Cole Comet guy, but Cole Comet is way 1107 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:39,680 better at football than Gerald Everett. 1108 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,560 This. This is just nepotism from Shane 1109 00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,280 Waldron having Everett back in Seattle, I think. 1110 00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:46,720 But that that to me is inexcusable. 1111 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,000 What is Gerald Everett doing out in the field so much? 1112 00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:53,040 Doesn't make any sense to me. Well, you also like with these 1113 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:58,040 coaches you want to see, you know this guy failed, right? 1114 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,160 Last year, it was bad. It was bad. 1115 00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,960 And what did you learn? You know, nothing. 1116 00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,880 Oh, nothing. You, you come in and and 1117 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:09,280 immediately you're like, I'm going to take this guy who if I 1118 00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,280 sat down and watch the tape and and looked at the stats, would 1119 00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,920 realize is much better than Gerald Everett. 1120 00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,120 And I'm just going to do what's more pumpy for me and play 1121 00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:20,520 Gerald Everett over this guy 'cause I like 'cause he knows my 1122 00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,320 system or whatever. It's about as big a red flag on 1123 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,760 a coach I think is is you're going to get is, you know, and 1124 00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:30,800 then in addition to the offense looking bad, it and we knew 1125 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:32,960 Waldron, like none of us liked Waldron or like it doesn't 1126 00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,640 matter, hopefully because Caleb's going to be awesome. 1127 00:58:37,480 --> 00:58:39,400 But it kind of, it reminds me of the Kirk Cousins thing a little 1128 00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,320 bit where they're like, they're actually were some red flags, 1129 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:46,000 but we ignored the red flags, you know, understandably because 1130 00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:49,520 there was a lot of upside and all of a sudden the red flags 1131 00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,440 look a little redder. Yeah, the put the whole bears 1132 00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:57,840 coaching staff on watch for first coach fired this season at 1133 00:58:57,840 --> 00:58:59,960 this stuff continues. Just not saying it's definitely 1134 00:58:59,960 --> 00:59:02,840 gonna happen, but they're they're on my watch list after 1135 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,960 that week 1 performance. I guess they did get a win so 1136 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:09,960 that that helps. All right, guys. 1137 00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:15,480 That was it for this week on victory lapping and bag 1138 00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,440 defending in season, ADP chasing whatever we are calling. 1139 00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:20,720 Now who's your one for the panic button? 1140 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:22,520 It was. Kirk Cousins. 1141 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:24,200 Oh, Cousins. Cousins. 1142 00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:24,640 Yeah, right. OK. 1143 00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:28,240 OK, the other one, I would say, if I was giving a second, I 1144 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,680 mean, this one is this so. So obviously you don't even need 1145 00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:31,560 to say it. Deshaun Watson. 1146 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,920 I mean, come on, man. Oh, yeah. 1147 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,000 Like. Christ Young was the other. 1148 00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,040 David Kitchen is having to trim the Dairy Queen budget right 1149 00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,360 now. Yeah, now the I'm. 1150 00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,760 A little bit banking about Dante Johnson. 1151 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,760 Dante Dante Johnson is it's a tough one, like the whole like 1152 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,640 they passed a bunch, they trailed the whole time and. 1153 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:54,840 Like wait, Green, I thought you were. 1154 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:55,760 Fitting. Still didn't happen. 1155 00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:57,200 You. You drafted. 1156 00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,720 No, I'm concerned. I drafted Deonte Johnson. 1157 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,320 Yeah, Sanderson. And Gretsch they. 1158 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,800 They got me on him. Every Panthers player is at 1159 01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:10,040 absolute 0. Jonathan Brooks 0, Leggett 0. 1160 01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:19,240 Adam Thielen 00 Like you project for zero points that you line up 1161 01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:24,600 on Yahoo 00. Yeah, let me ask you, is it bad? 1162 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,680 Is it bad if the guy took in the sixth round is getting out 1163 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,640 targeted by Jonathan Mingo? Is that good or bad? 1164 01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:33,680 Now we got to, you got to give him more than one week. 1165 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:35,840 Like, you know, Kyle Pitts only had three targets Week 1. 1166 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:37,880 You got to give him some time to bounce back, you know? 1167 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:44,960 I know I Bryce Young's bad guys. Yeah, yeah, he's, he's, he's the 1168 01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:48,040 worst quarterback in football, 32 out of 32. 1169 01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,640 And and Andy Dalton would be better than him right now. 1170 01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,640 Yeah, it's his that's. Andy Dalton would definitely be 1171 01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:56,720 better. I I think with, with Young, the 1172 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:59,040 thing I've been kind of digging around on some quarterback stats 1173 01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:03,840 and stuff like his time to throw is so long, but like he doesn't, 1174 01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:05,920 it's like he it's the Zach Wilson. 1175 01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:08,760 I think he's got the Zach Wilson disease where like he takes so 1176 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,880 long to make a decision and then that decision is an 1177 01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:15,840 interception. Like that's just it's the worst 1178 01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:17,880 possible combo. Like you at least if you're 1179 01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:19,960 going to be bad, you at least need to be like getting the ball 1180 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,640 out on time. That's where I mean, Dalton 1181 01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,280 would be much better. Honestly, I think Deon Deonte, 1182 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,200 maybe we shouldn't be worried. Maybe it's actually good for 1183 01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:30,880 Deonte because Young is going to get bench for Dalton who would 1184 01:01:30,880 --> 01:01:33,480 be literally like the perfect quarterback for Deonte. 1185 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:36,600 Oh, can we just, OK, real quick, before we get out of here, I do 1186 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,720 need to ask Sam's thought on the fifth round rookie from BYU 1187 01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:43,160 impacting the projection for the week one NFL Target leader 1188 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:46,840 Cooper Cup. Yeah, man, I mean, if I could 1189 01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,240 predict injuries, I obviously would have. 1190 01:01:49,360 --> 01:01:53,960 Been on five receptions before Puka got injured on two drives. 1191 01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,720 Yeah, now the the cup, the cup usage was was really, really 1192 01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:58,840 strong. They came out of the gate 1193 01:01:59,120 --> 01:02:01,840 clearly wanted to make him a feature point of the offense. 1194 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,440 Yeah, the the the puka stuff, I guess if we have time, 1195 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,680 everyone's saying that like, oh, we should have known about this. 1196 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,120 Which which I think is fair to say there were some injury 1197 01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,680 concerns. I don't think he looked limited 1198 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:16,240 or Hanford at all in his handful of plays before he got injured. 1199 01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:17,400 So. No, he didn't. 1200 01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:21,000 He looked good to me so I guess you you can victory lap and say 1201 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:22,800 you know you idiots shouldn't have been drafting puka. 1202 01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:25,840 He was already injured. He looks spry and fast to me. 1203 01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,600 Maybe it is a pain tolerance thing that we should have seen 1204 01:02:28,600 --> 01:02:30,680 coming. He got banged up on his knee and 1205 01:02:30,880 --> 01:02:32,240 couldn't fight through the pain anymore. 1206 01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:35,840 We'll see on that one. Yeah, that that really sucks for 1207 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:38,560 Puka. I will just say the cup stuff. 1208 01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:42,840 Cup would have been a good pick even if Puka was healthy. 1209 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:46,440 Now the fact that Puka looks injured is going to make cup 1210 01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,160 like the ultimate PPR scam of of all time. 1211 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,560 So if you draft a cup, obviously. 1212 01:02:52,720 --> 01:02:54,640 You're you're saying you. Should feel good about that. 1213 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:57,720 You're saying the guy who does have the record for most PPR 1214 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:01,680 points in a season might actually have been a good 1215 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,240 fantasy draft pick? I just want to. 1216 01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:05,400 I just want to get this straight. 1217 01:03:06,880 --> 01:03:09,520 Yeah, no, that's it. When you put it like that, it 1218 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,520 really makes me wonder. No, I mean, here's the thing. 1219 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:18,440 Here's the thing with Cup Davis. Davis trying to make this as 1220 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:20,520 painful as possible. It's insane. 1221 01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:23,640 This could be the signal. I hate every player over the age 1222 01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:26,800 of 24 like ever. I throw them away immediately 1223 01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:29,920 when when me of all people is telling you maybe draft Cooper 1224 01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,160 Cup? That should have been a pretty 1225 01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:31,640 loud. Sign. 1226 01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:33,240 I'm just saying are are that's. True. 1227 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,960 Honestly, that's that's a really good point. 1228 01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,200 Are you not worried about cup hitting hitting the target 1229 01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:40,560 Cliff? 21 targets in week 1 I mean. 1230 01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,800 I mean, what, what I, what I, I, I am worried about is, is the, 1231 01:03:46,280 --> 01:03:48,360 the offensive, the offensive line. 1232 01:03:48,400 --> 01:03:52,560 I mean, as as a, as a cup bag holder, I'm worried about the, 1233 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:58,240 the, the Rams offensive line and just, and just basically the, 1234 01:03:58,280 --> 01:04:00,560 they just kind of so the systemic risk it just, I mean, 1235 01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:02,640 Kyron did not play well yesterday. 1236 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:05,960 Like it just it it. There's some real systemic risk 1237 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,280 overall. Yeah, I think, yeah, I, I will 1238 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,280 just say like the the cup stuff, I did a thread on this. 1239 01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:14,960 There's there's evidence I said he would be a guy I would take 1240 01:04:14,960 --> 01:04:20,560 in PBRPPR redraft leagues because of his upside, not a guy 1241 01:04:20,560 --> 01:04:23,200 that I'm targeting in half PPR best ball. 1242 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,480 So I, I always like to be honest, this is this is not even 1243 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:30,080 a bit the the upside case with Cooper Cup was really obvious. 1244 01:04:30,520 --> 01:04:33,000 It's definitely possible. I was not factoring that in 1245 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:34,520 enough. I do think you had to 1246 01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:38,200 acknowledge the volatile downside of of an aging player 1247 01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:41,040 coming off a lot of injuries, but clearly the the Pro Cup 1248 01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:43,400 people were right. I was wrong. 1249 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,160 He. Pro Cooper Cup people did not go 1250 01:04:45,160 --> 01:04:47,520 far enough. I think you I think you could 1251 01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,280 have gotten there with with cup I I don't think it was it was 1252 01:04:50,280 --> 01:04:53,200 great process, but you know, you can get there without without 1253 01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:56,600 having good process, much like I did with Justin Fields in our 1254 01:04:56,600 --> 01:05:00,600 bet. God damn it, Justin. 1255 01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:05,360 Field Justin Fields starting and winning that game. 1256 01:05:06,120 --> 01:05:08,280 Unbelievable stuff. This is what I was trying. 1257 01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,400 I was trying to end the show before we got to the the Justin. 1258 01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:15,040 Fields I was trying, you guys wouldn't. 1259 01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:19,840 Let me do it. You know Justin Fields again, 1260 01:05:19,840 --> 01:05:24,040 honest people think I, you know, only see things through my my 1261 01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,440 own bias. I watched the Fields stuff. 1262 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,840 I thought he looked he looked pretty good in week one. 1263 01:05:28,840 --> 01:05:31,240 I thought the the connection with Pickens looked pretty 1264 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,000 strong. He just was clearly executing 1265 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:36,280 the offense and not trying to do too much. 1266 01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,280 Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 1267 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:40,520 And they use them on design runs clearly like that. 1268 01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:43,320 That feature of the offense would not exist at all with 1269 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:45,880 Russell Wilson. Yeah, I can see why they would 1270 01:05:45,880 --> 01:05:49,200 want to keep him. And so, yeah, I I took a decent 1271 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,920 bit of Fields as a third quarterback and best ball like 1272 01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:56,000 pick 190 people who took him in the eighth, eighth round on the 1273 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:58,720 big board. I still think that wasn't the 1274 01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:00,680 right call, but they. Might get there though. 1275 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:02,720 They might. Get there, they might get there, 1276 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,400 they might get there. Here's here's a real question. 1277 01:06:05,920 --> 01:06:08,040 Let's say they they win this game. 1278 01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:10,800 Fields executes the offense. Arthur Smith and Tomlin, they 1279 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:13,440 have their meeting and they're like, dude, we, we cannot go 1280 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:16,320 back to Russell Wilson. Like it just we we can't look 1281 01:06:16,320 --> 01:06:18,560 our guys in the eyes. Everybody had that meeting. 1282 01:06:18,880 --> 01:06:20,560 That meeting happened. What? 1283 01:06:20,560 --> 01:06:22,880 What what happens with Russ? Did do they cut him? 1284 01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:27,240 I don't mean, I don't know. He seemed pretty happy wearing 1285 01:06:27,240 --> 01:06:28,880 his shoulder pads and walking. Around when he. 1286 01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:30,440 Was out. That was hilarious. 1287 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,800 I. Couldn't hate that guy more. 1288 01:06:34,320 --> 01:06:37,120 I I don't like, what is the difference between what he did 1289 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:41,600 yesterday and like a kid in a in a Halloween costume like that he 1290 01:06:41,640 --> 01:06:45,120 was dressing up as a quarterback like he was out. 1291 01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,440 He was he, he dressed up. Yeah. 1292 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,000 I I think, I mean, obviously there's lots of teams that could 1293 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,080 use the 28th best quarterback in football. 1294 01:06:54,080 --> 01:06:59,240 So maybe, maybe, maybe he gets cut and maybe they trade him. 1295 01:06:59,240 --> 01:07:01,360 Maybe there's a trade, maybe they trade him to the Falcons. 1296 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:03,560 Falcons. Falcons need a quarterback. 1297 01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:08,560 Oh God yeah, we'll see. Fields will be tested in a game 1298 01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:09,800 where they actually have to need. 1299 01:07:09,800 --> 01:07:13,280 A quarterback back where he went to college. 1300 01:07:13,640 --> 01:07:18,360 Yeah, the love, the love stuff seems love stuff seems OK. 1301 01:07:18,360 --> 01:07:20,520 I think he's going to be all right, Jordan. 1302 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,200 Love stuff. Seems like he he dodged the 1303 01:07:22,200 --> 01:07:24,160 bullet there. He he's going to miss a month. 1304 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,240 Yeah, I don't know. I I heard some optimism it could 1305 01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:29,080 be even shorter than that potentially. 1306 01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:32,920 Can't you cannot bring Jordan Love just got paid a bazillion 1307 01:07:32,920 --> 01:07:34,920 dollars. You can't I the the Chiefs did 1308 01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:38,520 the same thing with Mahomes. They they kept him out two games 1309 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:43,160 after he suffered the knee subluxation like they it it they 1310 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,520 they did not want to get him back in too quick. 1311 01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:46,760 Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. 1312 01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:48,160 Two, it was two weeks, right? Like it's. 1313 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,480 Not that long and his was not an MCL sprain. 1314 01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:54,120 His was the knee subluxation. People people think that he has 1315 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:56,880 the MCL sprain and the knee subluxation both. 1316 01:07:57,240 --> 01:08:00,640 Yeah, yeah, we'll, we'll see. I mean, it, it makes Pack 1317 01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,920 Packers are like completely unusable. 1318 01:08:02,920 --> 01:08:04,880 In the meantime, if it's Malik Willis back there. 1319 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:09,120 So I I still think like by week 8, we're not going to be too, 1320 01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:10,560 too worried about the Jordan Love stuff. 1321 01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,800 But I could be could be wrong about that. 1322 01:08:13,840 --> 01:08:17,240 All right, guys, you're not making me take any more painful 1323 01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:18,680 L's. We're we're getting out of here. 1324 01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,960 Before you bring up someone else, just let the record show. 1325 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,240 I, I could have, I could have talked about Marvin Harrison 1326 01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:26,000 Junior. I, I could have talked about 1327 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,240 elite tight ends. I didn't rub salt in the moon 1328 01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:31,279 there. But Patton Davis did not give me 1329 01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:33,960 the same courtesy. That, well, we would have got. 1330 01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,800 We would. Have gotten look so good either. 1331 01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:38,640 I mean what we did all of tight end is a wasteland apparently. 1332 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,359 Yeah, if we would have gone into tight end, that would have been 1333 01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:44,560 another hour of the show, maybe. Joku was on track for 100 yards 1334 01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,439 and he got injured. Ferguson got hurt. 1335 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,120 Bowers. Bowers cleared the rest of them 1336 01:08:49,319 --> 01:08:51,640 pretty. Easily 88 targets I think. 1337 01:08:52,120 --> 01:08:56,279 And we got Kittle tonight, who I somehow, sigh, opt everyone into 1338 01:08:56,279 --> 01:08:59,040 getting on the non. We didn't we. 1339 01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:01,960 No, no, he's on my side. He's on my side of the debate. 1340 01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:07,240 I see what you're. Doing all right, Pat. 1341 01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:09,760 Yeah, let's, let's get out of here. 1342 01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:11,880 I think everyone knows where to find us. 1343 01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,880 Won't do that whole thing because we got to go. 1344 01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:19,960 We'll be back next week. Same time Monday is 1145 Eastern 1345 01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,359 for some more bag defending and victory lapping. 1346 01:09:22,399 --> 01:09:24,920 This is ADP chasing. We'll see you guys next week.