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Alright, let's let's talk about this Baker, Mayfield to to the
Panthers. As we've got Davis Matic joining
us here for for a rare night time ship, chasing, that's
that's always fun. I see yes yeah you know my my
partner's out of town for the week I've been I went and got
four steaks on Monday. It's Wednesday.
I just had steak number three for dinner.
You know, it's just it's just me and the dogs we're just hanging
out playing a ton of golf, it's so and I was like, I gotta win
tonight free. Let's do it.
Let's do a little ship. Chasing it worked out because
Pete's on vacation. Yeah, I was wondering what the
impetus was. Okay, so the partners out of
town. So so you get the free night.
I love it. Love to see it.
And I just I had a I had a feeling in the water that Baker.
Mayfield that I you know I felt the tremors.
So you said before the show you had you had a hot take, you
didn't necessarily want to put it in sweet because you know
that it can get dug up but it's a great dog for it.
What you don't want is that we want this take, we gotta start.
So so just a couple players who Baker Mayfield has a better
career ypa. Then Josh Allen Andrew Luck.
Just a couple of just a couple of those guys better better ypa
than I believe, should I had it? There was a there was a third
one that that really makes you scratch your head but I I lost
it and the and the before Baker Mayfield was listed on the
injury report last year, with that shoulder injury, the Browns
were averaging 33 and a half points per game on offense
before Baker, Mayfield suffers that, we're like two games
though. Just five games, it was five
games. It was 55 games in the 30s,
before he suffered the shoulder injury and, and to be completely
honest, how much of Baker, Mayfield sucks.
And is trash is colored by how good Odell looked with the Rams.
I mean, just if you had to guess what percentage of that is
colored by, how good Odell was with the Rams.
I think it's not just do do good with the Rams, but like Odell's
Dad making cut up some fake. There's a YouTube video out,
like taking a A pay cut to leave and then being quite good like
it's sort of the combination of those factors.
I think that is a great video. That was a great hit video.
Good video there was some real bad throws it at Mike.
You bring your point with that video.
So get out of it, he was hurt, Baker was hurt ya and also and
also like like there can be good and bad stylistic fits, right?
Like some some quarterbacks and pass catchers are really good
fits and have really good chemistry.
I mean we do the don't we do this with Rogers all the time
where like oh he'll never throw to that guy because he's not
going to like him. Like maybe they just maybe they
just never got on the same page. Like that's real thing.
I'm a baker apologist. So Like a lot of these takes are
probably pretty bad. Like I am fully acknowledging my
bias but Baker Mayfield is going to be the best quarterback.
T.j. Moore has ever played with
because by the time DJ more was playing with Cam Newton he was
already on like injury number 19, like cam was already toast
by the time. DJ more gots town to your point
on the stylistic fit. I know I think it was Stephen
Ruiz who wrote about it right after Beckham got caught, right.
He got released East ultimately. I think probably for the ringer
or something, but remember, there's a really good article in
USA USA Today. Right.
Isn't that, isn't that? Where Steven ruse works?
Yeah, let's get that right, my bad.
But it was whatever the article was was looking into like, you
know, different depths and, and Baker, not being good.
I believe, it was in the Deep intermediate range, you know,
not necessarily a bad pure deep. Thrower, like, you're talking
like, well, you'd expect to five foot, ten quarterback to
struggle. In that range, wouldn't you?
Because that's literally the area of the field, he can't see.
And that's also where Beckham has done a lot of damage over
his career. So it was pretty interesting,
you know, to see that and and I think you know you talk about DJ
more, you're not talking about a guy who runs a lot of like
18-yard in routes. So yeah, Jarvis Landry,
absolutely 8 with Baker Mayfield and what is DJ more at this
stage in his career. If not a super souped-up version
of drivers, Injury. Well, I love DJ more, but to
this point of his career, that is what he is performed like is
a really souped-up version of Jarvis Landry, that's fine.
That seems a little unfair to me but my son.
Jarvis Landry is good art. This is why this is why by for
was accusing you. Yeah, he you have been hyping
Jarvis Landry. Well since what like you guys
think jobs plan is bad. This dude's targets for out
runner or why I do is fun. I do, I do think Jarvis Landry
is bad, but the reason why I think he's bad as because I
don't think he's particularly Dynamic after he receives the
ball but DJ bore its super Dynamic after a successful.
That's like his thing. So that's what I'm saying.
But so all I'm saying about Jarvis.
Landry is yes, he's not a good at like, not a good athlete, not
Dynamic. After the ball is not in the
other thing, but what he does, he's good at it.
And then if you're going to say DJ Moore's, a souped-up version
of him, he's Elite a turning targets and what you're saying
in the souped-up version of what you just said that.
I was interpreting it. The G more actually can do
things after the catch with the ball.
I mean, it's gonna I mean that's a souped-up version of Jarvis.
Landry, that can actually do stuff with the ball and he's
like, it's like Cooper cup or not.
Not Cooper is but it's like an insane player.
It's a really good player. That's who you're talking about.
Yeah the thing that made me feel like that.
It's not the best Comfort DJ Moore's.
That DJ more can actually earn targets down the field and
Landry's a doubt has always been super shocked how I so I don't I
don't have I don't have any of this stuff pulled up.
Like how much has DJ more on targets down the field?
Because my sense is that one season where he was like, a
legit deep throat. I was going to say ayran 2020.
I was just, I remember one year of him doing that, but I almost
kind of wonder if that was a function of.
Let's, let's look, this is, this will be good.
I got it. I just pulled it up into.
So, last year at a 10.8, a taut, which was this the lowest of his
career outside of his rookie, season money and 9.6 his best
season so far. The yards per outrun was
actually 2020 when he was a deep threat 13.7.
A dot 11.7 in 2019, also pretty pretty strong year yards per
hour on that Year's. Well 2.03 he's been above 1.8 in
every season of his career. So, even it'll, how did the
existing holes? That's what you know, much
different roles. Yeah, he was, he was a fishing
in 2020. The yards per Target was up
because the depth was there and he was making plays down the
field. That's what was so exciting
about it. That's why I was wanting to be
on him last year. Was this idea that he had had,
you know, like thrived in multiple different roles at
different depths. And we kind of saw that last
year, but the quarterback who was just so bad, I really,
really held it back. I mean, just give him a
competent quarterback and that's really good.
Receiver, by the way, this 2020 Panthers roster.
I mean These were the I mean Rodney Smith was prominently
involved. Ian Tom, I didn't like this
dude, this team look at that. This is kind of like you guys
don't give a shit about this but this this big trade happened in
the NBA the other day and a bunch of people were like, they
way overpaid. This makes no sense yada yada,
but it was the Minnesota Timberwolves.
Like, at a certain point, you should just not want to live in
purgatory anymore. You should just try and do
something because being A super boring average.
Team is just miserable for everyone.
Involved and Baker is a baker. Jimmy were the only
opportunities. The 2022 Panthers had above
average Quarterback play, Nothing Else they could have
done, what would have gotten them there?
Again, I mean, maybe if they had acquired Russell Wilson, which
apparently they, I can't remember the reporting.
I mean, they were definitely in on DeShaun Watson, and that's
the other. That's the other thing.
Now is like Jacoby / sets. Starting 16 games for the
Browns. And now that Baker's removed
from the equation entirely, I don't want any Browns, I mean I
think they're going to be so bad.
Now is it possible that they get Jimmy right or that like I was
10? That's an I kind of had that
thought to of like if if the Champs Watson is actually
suspended indefinitely, he doesn't count against their cap.
I think. So technically that allows them
to take on Jimmy's cap number. I think, Yeah.
And they got Baker to take a pay cut their tip.
They're paying some of his salary, but he also took a pay
cut and Carolina's covering some of the salary.
So yeah, they could probably afford Jimmy and like there's no
bad blood because the thing with Baker, right?
Baker was going to play for them, no matter what, no matter
what I'm done with you. So Jim, he's kind of like a
baker who doesn't hate you. He's probably a little worse,
but he's, but he doesn't hate you, which is important.
So what the other before we get into the draft, the other thing,
the other skipping of the rocks or the, you know, the the
secondary waves of that. Are it does it does make it more
likely that Jimmy Garoppolo starts games at quarterback for
the San Francisco 49ers and makes it much more likely that
doesn't Marginally right? Marginally like answers might
have landed him or something because the because the Panthers
might have traded for him. Acropolis.
I think what you guys just said about Garoppolo going to the
Browns makes even more sense. I mean he seems never want to
trade these guys in the same conference.
Now the baker lands with the Panthers, if Watson get
suspended the Browns, very well, might grab.
I mean, I actually think that that is like, that is like, if
Jimmy the Carolina was gonna know.
This is like fanfiction us-trained, Jimmy Garoppolo to
the This is like, literally fanfiction but the other Ripple
that I think is even more interesting and we saw this
effect ATP was like to our. I think there was a rap sheet
report. I don't remember who it was that
like, re brought up the baker to Seattle stuff and lock it and
Metcalf. We're both going earlier for
about a week and now they are. I don't really see a way that
your locker, just not this, not the quarterback.
One of the biggest things I thought immediately was okay.
I mean Baker's not going to see out of them genius.
Smith is actually starting week. What like this is actually a big
that's gonna happen in 2022. So we've made fun of and Zack
Kruger tag me in the the clip of us talking about Washington,
just completely jumping the gun on the quarterback market and
the most hilarious way. Yeah, I training for once for
two thirds, when you could have gotten Baker for a fifth, but I
I can't believe Seattle's just going the complete opposite way
here. Like if they sit out the most
liquid quarterback. Getting history.
Well, I mean, this is why I was going nuts on like, on draft day
because you Davis, you just hit on this with Carolina.
The worst thing in the world is just to be mediocre.
They go get Baker, they're probably just going to be
mediocre extra extra bat in the NFL because it's so it's so hard
to. It's so hard to get the number
one overall pick and like in the NBA tanking is like whatever.
Guys can go get their numbers but like you're asking 53, guys,
to go risk bodily harm to like marginally improve your draft
does. It's very tough, the other
element of this And and Baker to Carolina is great for t.j.
Moore and I'm excited about it, believe me, but this is just
such a stupid move for those reason, it's also stupid move.
Because what if you could have caught lightning in a bottle
with Matt Correll or like what like you want to be using the
Reps in 2022 in a Lost season? To see if Matt crowd can be a
guy and then do it again next year and then do it the next
day. And this is why I was so mad
about Seattle to what are you doing with Gino Smith?
And Drew walk? Who are guys, we know are not
the guy. Well, thanks am how in the
fifth, right? They get handed to you.
They have to believe that there is some marginal chance that
your lock is an average NFL quarterback that they can
understand that. Why Geno Smith is going to be
the starter has been the rumor. The whole offseason.
I mean notice if they, if you're not careful your, your time has
come and gone. But by the Casey says, I have so
much. Carol exposure.
What, what is this mean? Are you get some coaching League
that you're I think it means Matt Correll, Corral.
Okay. Who, by the way I have, I have a
little bit as well in the Galaxy brain, DJ more Stacks.
I had a, I had a little Davis, you actually got me off that
because on one of the sports grid shows, you mentioned like
Baker, going like oh, if Baker goes the Panthers, like all the
crowds stuff is dead, got to stop doing that and I was like,
yep, I sure do. Yeah.
And I in the, the superflex puppy, I took Baker a ton
because he was going like quarterback, 34, whatever, So
just felt like him and pick it him and pick.
It were the big values in the superflex puppy.
I said out the superflex puppy. It was one of those things
where, like, I was, it's good to be good for you.
It was good for your mental health.
Good, very, very good, mental decision.
It's like 40 percent full and two days as I was, I was just
doing five dollar DraftKings, drafts while playing FIFA
Ultimate Team upstairs like because I just am like I can't I
gotta grind this. EV I gotta grind this if you
this evening cannot go like I Got a Max everything.
Oh man. So just to get back to Jimmy fan
fiction because I maybe I just like this fanfiction too much to
let go but like if Watson is suspended for the full season,
it seems like once this hearing comes back, if there's any kind
of suspension, my reading of it, this could be wrong.
But the way I was understanding is that if they give him a
suspension, get Del's going to push for a full season
suspension. And that is that is different
than an indefinite suspension because remember the language of
the contract stipulated he'd still get paid under a one-year
suspension but not an indefinite.
That's what. No good.
That was gonna push for indefinite index re you have
definitely stay. At least one year.
Yeah. So but I think if if like the
judge recommends like no suspension and the NFL's in a
tough spot, I Don't have a full understanding of the legal
system, but the afl's own private thing.
Yeah, yeah, exactly. If the Browns are dealing with
the Watson indefinite suspension of a year, minimum, it seems
very obvious that they didn't plan really for that.
Like, that's not what they do. They clearly these these more on
Browns, front office. People thought this was going to
be like a four-game suspension of the VB favorites for the
division. because there is no, there is no other reason like
they gave this dude 230 million dollars, guaranteed Like, which
was the only reason, which was, by the way, like, if you, if you
we really want to rewind our brains, the only reason that he
even signed with the Browns, remember the report was he's
done. He's out the Browns are not,
it's not happening. And then clearly like if like it
we're winding our brains clearly what happened is.
They said you know what, fuck it you can have all the money
guaranteed that Matt is what happened?
That was in was the athletic, had the full kind of breakdown
story. Like that's that's exactly what
And they were like, how, well, all the money's guarantee,
buddy. And yeah, this feels.
I feel like, like life and sports is all about taking
risks, but I cannot believe that that was the gamble that the
Browns for an office made like it just feels so bad.
It feels like a sports movie or something.
Well, that's also one of the reasons that it's hard to get
super excited about Baker, you know, the Browns, guaranteed
DeShaun Watson in the middle of all these allegations, which
were still Not done comes up. Yeah, but are we are we saying
we are we saying, we trust the Browns decision makers like is
that is that is that kind of, maybe not Baker?
How does a look up there? Like we all do anything?
Not to have bigger, sir quarterback?
You know what I mean? I think, I think if your, if
your relationship is that damage with your quarterback, like I
mean yeah. Like the Patriots told Brady
goodbye and he won a Super Bowl, you know, that's a good point.
I mean, that seems especially when they, I mean, the most
ridiculous. Okay, there's a lot of
ridiculous things. Maybe not the most ridiculous
thing, but one of the most ridiculous things was, it
brought a Watson and they talked about like, now having an adult
at the position, right? Which was just like how, how can
you say that about a guy with 23 sexual assault allegations on
his you know, under his name. But they did seem like the baker
stuff is more off-field. You know like there was pretty
the other side of that coin is it's pretty clearly like we
don't think he's mature enough or something.
Well, it Like a combination of Baker, not having trust in the
front office and in the coaching staff and you know, not
appreciating that he played through the injury.
I mean I asked by him for this the other day I think but like
that. Do you have the Browns, ever,
want to road playoff game before Baker?
Put up 50 on Pittsburgh. Like I had to guess, I would
guess this iteration of the Brown says never want a road
playoff game before they do that, I don't think this
iteration has and so and so it's like it's Like yeah, maybe maybe
Baker could have handled the situation more, like an adult
like I don't know. But then again, on the same
hand, I'm always uncomfortable, like, asking NFL players to be
like you should you should really take one for the team.
You should be more of a model employee.
You know what I mean? Yeah, that was only the second
time that been in the postseason since.
Yeah. So And they'll also all card
game. And in 2002, I mean, since Lee
something came back, I think it's much more likely, that
Baker goes to Carolina and plays.
Well enough to make the Browns look stupid for hitching there
for doing this, then it is that people are like ah, the Browns.
They got a fifth round pick and 3.5 million dollars off of Baker
salary. Like what genius is.
I'm looking at the Browns, encyclopedia can we just pull
over? I've a very funny moment for the
fact that Bill Belichick got them to the Gods.
An 11 and 5 record into the playoffs in 1994 and then they
were really bad the next year, 5 and 11.
And then the whole franchise just left, but they fired into
they got they got rid of him. But I mean he still would have
been the coach of the Ravens, right?
Like they decided to fight him, right?
Yeah. One season away from him,
getting into the playoffs, with the Cleveland Browns, which, you
know, the Browns weren't necessarily the Browns at that
time because they're perfect technically.
But technically that's the Ravens, right?
That's the Ravens. Yeah.
But because the Ravens now but yeah.
It's just sort of like yeah. Fired Bill Belichick.
I like Because of one down year I just you could move there's
there's a curse. There's just a curse on them.
It's got its got to be the only answer well but so so the
Garoppolo Point. Well, Davis, your point of like
the Browns making like a no one's going to praise the Browns
for this Faker trade. Even if they got like, a third
or something, the Browns got played.
Like, as soon as they got Watson, the league was basically
like we call BS. You're not going to get anything
from us for Baker. You're just not in, like
eventually will realize that, and I don't know why Seattle
just set this out completely if this was the asking price but
they did. So it was really just one per
Dana bad cap situation. I wonder if I like I would, I
guess I just assumed they are because of how they run their
team. But that would if they were, if
they are in a bad caps, I don't think they're in terrible cap
situation. I the only way I can explain it.
For Seattle in my head is that they're just always been so
hubristic like they draft players on this idea that they
know better, but I mean that this year was a little
different, they didn't reach as much.
They mostly stayed to the key positions other than the Ken
Walker pick, you know. It took a couple cornerbacks a
couple tackles a couple wide receivers couple Edge rushers
like they had like Apex covering those four spots which is smart
the edges. On the line edges on the the
outside of the passing game on both sides of the ball.
But like, I don't know, I it's either the hubris thing where
they just they seem to think they're going to have something
that works or it's that they're like actually turning a little
analytic and there and they are tanking.
They're not doing the stopgap move, right?
And I think that might be a possibility, but if you're
taking like, why do you draft a running back in the second
round, like rice. That doesn't respect thing.
You can do for attacking team like eat.
Okay. A, the running backs, you've got
to use the running back on the first contract, the worst, the
only thing worse than drafting a running back.
Early is giving a running back a second contract.
Like so it's just, it's just a, yeah, their history in that pic.
Suggest much more strongly. They're just like, it's just
hubris still like, Pete Carroll just thinks.
Yeah, he can play quarterback. He's such a good coach that
they're gonna win. Like, yeah, I don't even think,
I don't think they even realize how much Russell Wilson build
about over the years, but whatever there, To find out,
it'll be fun. But with the Browns did to go
back to the bronze, like, I think they completely
misinterpreted what's gonna happen suspension stuff.
So that's what makes me think maybe Jimmy goes there because
they have their probably scrambling to figure it like or
will be scrambling. If the suspension comes down as
indefinite, a 10, a year minimum because that I mean, they
actually do have a pretty good roster and you can see Kobe for
Seth is a 17-game starter is It's kind of a disaster for,
like a wooden our roster. So you got at least get in Jimmy
for another option, right? Yeah, or something Jimmy to the
Browns is happening. Heard it here first.
Wait, wait sources. So someone someone DM settlement
sources, say sources, say the Browns are working on a deal to
for a one-year, rental for Jimmy Garoppolo.
Contingent on the indefinite suspension coming down as soon
as it comes down to. How many should I tweet?
That said, tweet sources. I'm hearing, I'm here.
I'm here. You should think I'm hearing.
I'm here, I'm here. I'm here, I'm hearing,
individuals loosely associated with the league.
Please delete, that he would be far away my most popular tweet
of all time. And it would just be A lie which
would obviously be kind of funny.
Yeah, you can just play this clip like sometime tomorrow it's
just like as a reply to that tweet I'm hearing.
I am now getting the people want a dulcet script so bad, we're
not getting super chats. So I guess, I guess it's time
for me to make the dulcet. No, no.
We do not promote the false flag, but we don't talk about
sausage son on shifting sand. No, no, no, no, what I'm on?
No state-sponsored media. Absolutely none of it.
So you're just completely out on Tulsa's.
You can't see, like, you couldn't, for example, be over
50 over his Alberto exposure and Dynasty.
It's too large. It's literally We it's really,
it's a mountain. It's a mountain.
Yes I would like I would like to get it on the record.
I am overweight Alberto in best ball.
I am also drafting little bit of Greg dosage.
I take dulcich in the 20th round on DraftKings when I have the
the Broncos cheap set up and I miss out on cage a Handler.
Yeah. See real does it fans they draft
at? I tenderly.
And then they just, they take a Russell Wilson, they stack it up
and they just wait until the eighteenth round attack on
dosage that That's True Believer right there Gretch.
I gotta hear that. You're maybe one of the only
people in my life. I haven't asked this question
yet but tasting that you probably don't even know.
This probably hasn't even brought up on the show because
your band and Washington but taysom Hill is a tight end on
Underdog, how would that influence?
How often you wanted to draft him?
And the within the last round, I mean, I think with Peyton gone,
I would not, I don't really see a lot of scenarios, but I
understand the game. Theory thing says it.
Take him a little bit. You know, these are these are my
two counterfactual oils that that I always present people
actually Crane and I discovered this the other day, they're
offensive coordinators, the same guy.
It's been since 2006 like Carmichael is a Carmichael.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Pete.
Pete sounds right. But I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna
I'm not going to swear on that one so he clearly he had to have
to some degree been on board with the taste, some stuff, I
don't think you can on. At him, I don't think him and
Peyton or having these meetings every week.
Like There's No Way Carmichael is like I'm not doing this shit
with taysom this week and Peyton.
Just overruling it like that. Had to have been a group
decision. Sure.
The second thing is, And I think maybe even the more important is
especially with the Kamara suspension, I don't think you
are drawing dead to getting regular tight end Gadget points
from him. Anyways, the same way you would
from Mullally Cox or train McBride or Greg dosage,
basically, With with the one percentile that he starts some
games at quarterback, I did it a little bit and then it's tough
because like Logan Thomas isn't the 18th rounds.
It's like you know Logan with Logan Thomas.
It's like you're basically betting he's healthy by the end
of the season and he you know actually gets a lot of routes
inside and so this is like a decent the tight end in the
eighteenth round. An underdog isn't completely
dead which is why I kind of I have different but they're
totally dead. They're totally dead to be a
League winner though. 100% dead. To be a League winner.
What hide engine thinking around?
Now think in the end zone twice. I mean it's like Trey McBride.
You know, trim if I guess is and Jordan, Reed, was like an 18th
round pick the first year. He was the overall number one
tight end. Like there's definitely been
kid'll. Kill was an 18th round her but
he was late. Okay.
Walker was all like 999 is very different.
Different. You're the real, the real
argument against is one. You're getting zero points, a
lot of the time. And then to your also for going,
lots of other 18th round picks. That could be this year, it was
who are kind of are terrible later on tight ends that we
argue about this year because last year, we argued about, you
had jajuan Johnson at Tyler crops on our team that we did
together. Which I mean, I I, I mean
Alberto is my most wrapped too tight at this is work to Cole my
exposure, so I don't just take him all the time.
My Rule would taste them. Now, is that I take him as the
second tight end when I get one of Kelsey Andrews pits Waller
kiddo because that way I was going to ask how are you playing
him? I'm at like that playing with an
elite tie-dye make sense. Yeah I think that I think that's
better than using this the third tight end when I have like herb
Smith and Robert onion or whatever.
Like because in that case, I'm really just betting against the
guys that I had already like that that are already tripled up
at the position. Other one I was thinking is if
you like are just Yet thin at tight end and you have like you,
like not. If you get.
Yeah, it's like even deeper and you go super late then like,
yeah. If you had the rest your rosters
real strong, I can see taking the swing on hill and being
like, at least this guy has the ability in the shootout, in the
weeks 15 to 17, his ability to score 20-point games because you
can do it by playing quarterback fix right, right?
Yeah. Are you guys doing any for Titan
builds? DraftKings, DraftKings, I don't
hate it because As Kyle Devore, check says everyone goes later
on DraftKings. Somehow like a like somehow
every player you like had their backs, the course not.
It's and that's what that. So what we determined is that,
it's the running backs. We don't like and quarterback
score earlier, so it makes it feel like all the guys.
We like go around later basically, right?
Right. Yeah, I think, I think if you
wait until like round 13 to take your first tight end or what I
mean, what's the difference in around 20, besides your fourth
Tight end of your 9th or 10th wide receiver like functionally.
They're very similar. Yeah, there's a couple people in
chat saying, like no one takes Taste of them or it's a good,
you know, the answer is to not take him.
I mean, that's fine but like there are all like we would have
said the same thing about Cordarrelle Patterson at this
point last, that's why people were talking about quarter old
Patterson. Some people were taking in my.
Remember, I told you I took him a little bit, not not nearly
enough, I think I think I took them on like nine percent of
teams or something. It's a super good cop because
with Cordero, we're saying okay, well what if this thing we've
been talking about for all these years actually does finally pan
out. One of the things the guy like
taysom, it's like, okay well we've been waiting for it to be
Winning 16 touchdowns one year, right?
And it has been a it has been a week winning thing when he's
been a tight end eligible on FanDuel and DFS 90% own one week
on. Right?
Yeah. So there's been there's been
spot like it's not. It's you're not like you call
that a 1% outcome but like that one and and then I think it's
any more but you have to be. I'm just saying, generally to
the to the audience. It's I I want to be a little bit
careful when we're like trying to be certain that a 1%.
Some can't happen because that's the kind of thing that you do
actually want to make a few bets on, right?
The, the thing that the thing that people are most right about
though, that I probably should that also should be part of like
the counterfactual that I propose when I ask people about
this is that they signed any doll to be the backup
quarterback and like that. That's really that's really the
big counter like the, the big cat or argument to it to, which,
my response is to stick my head in the sand like an ostrich and
be like, what if what if Andy Dalton isn't there really?
That's it. What it baby?
Please like you did last year, right?
Right. What if he's just too bad?
Be out there. Yeah he's real and he's like
pretty old. I mean they're still dirty
filter comes in and then he just breaks right away, like you
know, Fitzpatrick or Andy Dalton comes in.
And they use more of the gadget stuff because they're, they're
not able to run the Jameson offense or whatever.
And you don't turns 35 in October and adult was not the
type of quarterback that I would have guessed would have been
playing at 35 like I mean he's not he's just a guys it's just I
mean he's just here to cash checks that's all.
I mean we did that with the last we've seen of any Dalton was
like unwatchable about as a bearing.
The cowboy, even think he's a slightly better version of Chad
Henne. Yeah.
All right, let's do a draft, right?
We've talked about taysom Hill for a half an hour.
We we fulfilled our quota of other conversation.
All right, I just got back. Best Ball Mania 3 here.
Cheers screen. Yeah, you just got back from
vacation, right? But yeah, I just lit.
Like, literally just finished a six-hour drive home.
Someone asked what Pete was, I think he's driving home from
somewhere as well. Right.
So just, you know, some for that influence our 103, I never get.
I piss never. I've been I've been stuck in
that I've been stuck in the Kelsey He's owned which is pick
six or pick seven through 12. I call it the Dig Zone.
All right what are we doing here?
Whichever of cup or McCaffrey, is there?
Kat wants to go Jefferson is this is you know I'm good with
Kevin McCaffrey. I don't think this looks like a
super piss boys draft I was just hoping you'd make a case for
Jefferson because I don't think I've taken him this is drastic.
I'm so I've kind of complained about probably a little too much
about my not having high picks the pics.
I really feel like I'm missing or one through three.
I've actually had a decent of four and five and I take
generally, I take Jefferson over Chase.
I'm actually pretty overweight Jefferson.
Okay. Let's get one of these.
I would not be very confident that decision that would, I
would, I would totally random.org tonight.
Yeah, yeah, I would say, that's fair, that's fair.
It's like, you know, I have no I have known Exile, just layers
and I think Bowa Catherine 101. It's just a pat trying to come
back from having way too much regular over Jefferson.
He's like I'm not as because they can get new to ever.
So we get Jonathan Taylor at 13. Let's do it.
I actually hate this. I think.
Jonathan Taylor should be like the sick thick and a real world.
Oh my God. And after I pick the, are you
think the best stubborn? That's true.
That's true.
Yeah. No, you're I think he should be.
I think he should be the fourth pick.
But especially if we get someone sliding.
There's a scenario now with getting Taylor of 103 where we
get a you know, a 12 or Taylor's, not paired with a
second-round pick very frequently.
It's true. Yeah.
I think I want to go type in. Go type in Giants.
Colts Josh Norris, isn't it so good?
Because that's the best. Pretty much by round six.
You like know what your team is going to be.
It's honestly so good. Hello we're still interesting
Pittman. I never take I have to take
this. Yeah, I don't want any other
guys thank you. You don't like you don't like
this one. You don't like, you don't like
Juan Dale. No I like one.
Don't get another one doing. Yeah, he's in there.
He said, he said he didn't. Like, any of those guys.
I like all. I like, all the like sick one.
I like one day. I'll take Tony a little bit.
I'll take call it. I think he's on a price.
How I was just, how are you not in?
How are you not in, on Tony, he's like a classic.
Let's rotate this guy. Yeah no I mean not really he
doesn't like for me it's about the Long View.
You got to still have that production in college and stuff
so yeah he really flash last year.
He really Pops in the targets per hour on the stuff that I
love. But I love the guys where I can
say, I think this guy's really good because I have 34 years of
evidence based on his college track record as well.
He wasn't. I mean, he was doing a lot of
different things in Florida, so there's like ways to excuse
this, but he's doesn't fit that for like, that's, that's the guy
that I get gung-ho about. That's why I've been gung.
Ho about TJ. Ray Jay Browning, they were
Elite in college and people don't want to you know, so carry
that forward as comfortably as I don't know, I think I'm pretty
comfortable carrying it for, I'm at.
I'm kind of, I'm kind of, you know what, Tony?
I'm not like super, super overweight, but I think like one
of the things I really like with the prospects as the guys who
like do what we expect them to do in the pros, like they the
skill set, they had in college like translates.
Tony was incredibly, his highlights were awesome and like
on a per touch basis. Early in his career, he was he
was or per route basis early in his career, he was great.
But like he clearly alienated his coaches at, didn't get
playing time, something something was going on, so it's
like he comes in the league. He gets thrown out of one of his
best games for fighting a guy. He alienates the new coaching
staff right away in Jersey, Barclays, ankle, That Skirmish
that he got in his house. A quan rolled his ankle.
Oh no. Really?
Yeah. No.
It was just gone. Like a bad throw on a slant.
Wasn't it wasn't? It wasn't it?
That he pushed the guy. Maybe, I, maybe I invented this.
Yeah, you know, I do like the, I do like this slander.
The sick ones I worked and called the end of a play on
someone's foot. Tony, Tony is my second most
drafted wide receiver. I think that's I mean it's an
upside play I yeah. Well, I can get behind.
Well, we'll talk more in a second after we make this pick.
Would you guys like here, read easy?
I don't think we have, like, a clear ATP value.
Pick to get a unique pairing with Taylor all these guys have
been paired with Taylor. Yeah, yeah.
I'm good with Tyree and then we get which Jerry to and then
either we go, like a hero, our be type build with AJ brown, or
whoever or we get. Javante and then yeah.
And then we get the to the 20 prices so good.
Why? Like how often you get the wide
receiver 9 and then you have to take a quarter back to the 11th
round. Like it feels like that doesn't
happen very often. I have not been drafting like
any of to. Uh I just he feels like too
expensive for the kind of upside profiling to too expensive to
take as like the solo guy. And that's the problem is
because it goes right next to Fields whose way more intriguing
as like your back. Stop quarterback, you know?
Yeah, yeah. Man, I was I we should talk
about Fields, man. I'm pretty worried about him.
It's gonna be bad. It's gonna be bad.
All right. Chub.
Or Javonte in the third seems pets.
I like that, I like pits. I've got a crazy amount of pets
because he gets to the end of the third round these days.
I mean, we have, we have our Acres, we have our anchors at
every position, which my lizard brain likes.
So do we want to do pits is that we goes that we have and I think
I think it's a BP is going to rise to so I like I like
drafting pits in this Dead period right now I like that
Shavon Shavon Shavon say would been nice picture Mike Williams
would have been a nice pic there but pits is a I think he's a
home run in the third round plus pit sets us up with the elite
quarterback route. If we want now we can take we
can take Kyler jumps is gonna lose his mind it sets us up with
the elite Quarterback route because he plays against the
Cardinals in week. 7 team it's so good because of his Elite
quarterback is quarterback suck. I completely agree though that's
one of the reasons I think so much pizza.
Like I'm a good sake Murray. Well, I just like, I like the
guys like that. They give you optionality where
like if you're stuck on like because you guys probably feel
this. Like sometimes you're just
sitting there in the sixth or the seventh round, you're like,
All these guys fucking stink. I don't want any of these.
So I don't understand it. I get what you're doing the
correlation, but like it, you have so many names in the queue.
Now like you just put 80 degrees in our queue.
It's not about. Yeah.
But why are you putting forth in the queue?
Look case we get Kyler. I'll go through and clear it up.
Someone sweet. No, no.
Don't, don't clear it because this gives us like by.
Now, we should pretty much have a correlated pick at every spot
once we're on the clock, I will clear.
Our up, like, let's say we don't get Kyler, I'm gonna unclick a
bunch of the Arizona Dusty pass catcher.
Like I don't know, but pits pits and Rondell pits and Rondell
totally correlate. He's not Dusty.
He's I'm saying AJ Green. I'm only taxing sure.
Sure. Sure, sure, sure.
Yeah. I was just saying put the good
players in that Malik oxen agent green.
Oh, you do want them very wanted at the end.
You want? You was too bad.
You want the black, you want the bad players?
Because you want to kind of, well, this is how I think about
it. The bad players is where we're
at with the correlation that you would walk.
The really shitty players on your team.
Ballsy, if you guys have this key on her aides, go round round
four hours here for Alex. Gears isn't coming.
That's a great point. It's the highest.
How do we Auto? Can you can you rearrange the Q
by a TV or something? Just so you can't use not
hisses. This is her so bad.
I can't this is happened to me where I've like, I've like Auto
pick Jerick McKinnon and like the 12th round because I drafted
Kelsey and click Tallchief. See you know oh God.
That hasn't happened to me yet. Thankfully Just to be safe.
So no been what I was trying to say is you do want to have some
exposure to players that you think are bad because I'm not
going to be 100% accurate on my player takes and I'll be wrong
about some but I only want to have the exposure to those bad
players when it is either correlated to their teammates
Orchard there week 17 opponents. Yeah, but then that's an
argument I have exposure to literally every player because I
think I like the way that I would apply it and I'm obviously
Dressed as much as you guys, but I think is that I would have a
lot of exposure. The guys, I think are good and
then I would mix in the guys that I don't really have a
strong opinion on and the guys that I actively think are bad.
I would still probably try not to draft like guys like and and
and I think you're right. Like I think you're right and
all the players I have lots of exposure to I think are good or
are just under priced based on their playing time like fire and
Pringle. For example, I don't think he's
great. But he's just starting wide
receiver who I think is pretty good in the 18th rounds.
But like another another example would be like, David Bell who I
don't think is great but should have a role and I haven't like,
seriously, David Bell. You know, I work, you know, he's
not happy. I don't like slow guys.
I mean if he Tian doesn't go, he's were smashing it.
Yeah, I'm all in on. Don't do it.
JJ Frick. Don't do those go.
What do we do? All right, you didn't don't
think because I didn't have an answer to that question.
Breathe hole. I truly didn't have an answer
yet. This is a good price on etn from
where he's been going. Recently, we must we must be
getting a little bit of piss. Boy action here to get etn
there. Yeah, we only have one which
Sievers, we only have one receiver.
We're crazy. Bitch, you might want to take a
few of those receiving it. Well, we got, we got, we got, we
got Bateman right here. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. All right.
So man got to add the Jack's. The queue here and say no
Steelers Steelers Steelers. What we got any idea and we
gotta you gotta add. You gotta hedge egg Stealers
Texans Raven. I still have Texans Ravens.
Yeah, if we get payment the cubes going to be the whole
league. That's no, that's that's why I'd
say by round six. You pretty much should know what
your team is gonna be. Well, there's actually another
way to play this. Let's see what, let's see.
What Dorito does. It's can take a wide receiver.
He took payment. Let's what about Mahomes?
I mean I guess Herbert is the better.
No, I love it. I mean, you know, I got you
don't gotta tell me twice, I'ma homes because he's fallen a bit
past ATP and Davis is on also. Also we can we can we can we can
backdoor, we can back doors, I hate that.
Yeah. Add.
Wow, we got to add lots of teams buddy.
I can't follow the correlations. That's not like we not take it
now. I'm taking Kyler out.
Well know, sometimes if a guy if you're getting like if you're
getting a value, if you're getting a unique combination
that that supersedes the correlation like how many teams
are going to have how many teams are going to have Jonathan
Taylor, Patrick their homes and Kyle pits.
Like that's probably like a fairly low comboed.
I would imagine Mahomes you can backdoor stack like you.
Credibly easily, and and even back door, bring back to like,
even even there, even cheap Bronco.
Yeah, yeah. There's cheap Broncos.
And I think like when you think about one of the defining
features of 2022, it very easily.
Could be that you can Back Store staff Mahomes with some of what
turned out to be his top options.
They've got seems like it rare type.
Did you get me: the queue somewhere?
He's in there buddy I put him in.
Yeah look at this time. Be more obviously drafting him.
This glorified tackle here and we just give him a.
We can take we can take dulcich in this team.
This is As a team, where would make sense?
We have an elite tight end. This is this is when I take
dulcich, this is how I do it. Although I probably wouldn't
take him here because I don't have R Us.
I usually take dulcich if I touch down side from the rock.
Yeah, but but but if he scores, if he scores, if Russell, Wilson
throws for 360 yards and two touchdowns in the two,
touchdowns are adults, Edge and Mahomes loses his mind, you'll
want dulcich and week 17, I feel like neck right now.
Wait, let me says, I love your onesie positions, but I'm a
little worried about your receivers.
I'm a little worried about little worried about receivers
are gonna be. This is, this is so funny,
because this was the best little bit of receivers good.
This was the, this was the bit last offseason was every time I
would do a draft. You guys, I was the running back
guy but I didn't really like, what it what could we do?
Not take not take Jonathan Taylor, not take etn 10 spots
pass AP. I think I mean, I think those
are all good pics. Yeah, actually I wanted to
Vontae or I mean that's who I was floating and sprocket.
Probably the most pick is where we shouldn't have taken.
My mom's bait. We got, we got him.
We're going to take Brandon Cooks over Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah, it was a good take, pretty Cooks, that's for sure, but
there yeah. Juju Darnell Mooney, Chris
Godwin. That's the, that's the range.
That's the range where wide receiver dries up.
It does. But you still need a receiver.
So, my Response, that would be okay than reach for.
Well, we're gonna be taking that next tier because we're not
going to be able to get two guys in the next tier now, right?
Like we could have reached all the way for Elijah more if we
wanted to and then and try to get more and what you're saying
what you're saying is that we're trapped under the Avalanche and
we need a say Bernard to come and bring us some whiskey.
Yeah. Is there anyone.
You'd rather be And Patrick Mahomes though, ya know, that's
what I've got. I feel like the dude from
Avalanche because like, you just going like but this one has
Mahomes, right? Exactly.
I don't care about the Avalanche.
I'll be trapped down here into the snow.
Wow, Lancet 601. I mean, this was the right room
to take the homes. Uh, yeah.
Who got Justin Herbert. He must that must have been a
pretty nice value. They're just numbers real.
They all went in a row. I mean, look, dude, like look at
our prices, like. Yeah.
Don't you guys are right.
And we needed to take Mahomes goes Davis has on, so we check.
I should have. I should have, I should have
worn. I should have worn my jersey.
It was it was a mistake when you click receiver so I can just
start trying to like figure out who we can take, but there are
plenty of guys. Here we go.
We got the best receiver. We got, we got correlated guys.
Yeah, the correlation will take care of us.
I mean, it is only in week 17, so that could be a problem for
our Advanced rates but surely fine.
What do we? What do we do?
Did it doesn't all have any watch pizza video.
The only thing that matters is week 17, I don't worry about
anything else. All right?
I mean, I can't, we can't be taking them.
Are Cooper. DeAndre Hopkins is a wide
receiver to hear seems super bad.
He just went through. I think I think the feeling is
actually not a bad pick. Ben, are you gonna be mad if we
take film? Yeah, but we can do it.
We can take, we can take Renfro, we can take run forever.
I would take like trailing Burke's or something.
Okay, you don't have to, ya know.
So so Can I? So this is actually a build
where I do draft old players and I died, like, obviously great,
you know. Like I don't like old shitty
guys, very much. This is if you're just selling
us on the robust, build your likely to Moneybags and then you
take out I'm feeling and then tap that ass players and old
players just can't take after. After after we make this pic I
will I will explain it a little bit because I well I think it
makes sense in my head but maybe it won't make sense after we
could wipe You for a kid. We gotta we gotta we gotta we
got great picks coming up, right here.
We are going to. We are going to love either the
wide receivers or about steak. There's actually a there's a
very strong case I like, I mean, yeah.
It's like it's like the team that year we were just in is
dead. And then right here is all guys,
we like that's what would be taken first here.
Yeah, perks are Tony for Tony. I like I like Tony more but you
guys can decide that would take pilot preferred but you guys are
all about correlation we have JT, right?
That's the correlate. Yeah, let's go.
Okay, so real quick on the thielen thing, obviously, we
would expect a guy if his profile to get injured or
slowdown in production, towards the back, half of the year.
What I like in these builds were we're kind of thin at Wide
Receiver. Right now is that if we had
reached on On it. Had we taken Hopkins there.
Had we taken some, what have we taken?
Burke's someone whose production we expected to come a little bit
later. That would have put us in a
weird spot taking thielen. Gives us a backstop to take
Jalen Tolbert. George Pickens guys like guys
whose production we expect to be cup to be back loaded because we
feel that the thielen production should kind of get us through
the first eight weeks. But actually made sense.
Just want you to know that when I say actually, it's because I
did not expect you that I didn't logical groceries, that many
thoughts. That's so it's like I'm not
taking like even like if like let's say I take like Aaron
Jones or something. Like I'm not really always
taking thielen just as the correlation if I already.
Like if I were to have two strong wide receivers like that,
I'm just I'm not taking because I don't expect him to have good
week, 17 production or even be available in week 17, but he
should be pretty good for the first two months.
Of the season. So I think I just realized the
star thing. You're doing this so that when
we're looking at the queue there starred, not the queue, but the
yeah. But I look at the whole list.
Yeah. They're start, it's so your cues
useless and little betray you if you're not careful.
Yeah. Yeah.
I like it. Yeah, it says, but you figured
it out then it's so that it's literally, so that when we get
on the clock we'll just look and be like oh that guy.
Yeah, that makes sense. That way, you don't have to
track 18 different correlations and I was really confused about
what's going on at the queue for a minute there, but I've figured
it out final, okay, it's also CH jumps out here not Is he, uh,
ever going to fall? I thought I was gonna get like
cheap CH and I could take them after Damien Harris in that
never happened. Buddy, who are you talking to?
You're talking to the guy who's been waiting to draft 10th,
round CH all offseason. It's just not happening.
What's going on? When are we getting 10th?
It's not happening. Is the casuals are going to be
coming soon. And the Zeke effect is going to
happen on CH. We're learning.
It's the starting running back on the Chiefs, bro.
It's a sixth-round pick. Yeah, to take more Roadshow.
Well, I already have plenty of Road Joe.
I actually have been forcing myself to take other other
running backs in that range because even for me the road Joe
exposure was getting a little high, our sky and MBS gone.
Mvs might be there. Skies definitely going, I saw
him, go mvs has still here. Alright, we are, we are sweating
it out. The room is going to, I have a
bad feeling. The room is going to do it to us
but what can you do? We're sweating out mvs.
Yeah. That's where we're at as our
feelings. One of the other zeros.
Good Lord I've been. I mean I hate, I hate that.
I have to keep bringing up Michael Thomas on the extremes
but if I'm Michael Thomas seems like pretty great.
Is he has anyone? Like it's have we seen evidence,
he even exists. Yeah, though there was that
you'd have him running routes that somebody replied the most
apt reply, which was he looks closer to retirement than Like
he did not look like he could run rounds.
I mean, what he has not played in a game of organized football
in two years, correct? And there was the workouts where
it was like on one foot that look really anyway mvs and went.
So we're screwed. We didn't get our we are super
sleeper wide receiver. They've been reading the reports
about him, running about him running a diverse route tree.
I never take CH but this got to take a receipt.
Let's take a receiver first and then your Thomas you guys want a
lot of it. I think I would take a lot for
Thomas, I don't all I'll let I'll let you be the tiebreaker
pad. I really don't care.
How many kind of weird head-to-head with Thomas, but
right in the context of where the other rookie receivers have
gone. I love is a good thing.
Yeah. Lava I probably just set up we
just set up the mega Giga brain taysom a lob, a tight end wide
receiver stack. Yes.
Yeah. Also our staffing situation for
the amount of time that I've had to type in different teams in
the queue. I can tell you right there goes
Michael Thomas. It doesn't look like Geniuses a
second. Yeah, we're on deck and you're
gonna push her ceh again Pollard.
Pollard rch I think your Wilson still there.
Wait, why is this late Seas running high for integer.
Kurt Wilson here. I'm good, I'm good.
Let's get, let's get some readers.
You want to make a CH push Davis?
Now, no, this is this, this will Rectify.
This will Rectify our earlier train?
Yeah, this actually fits with everything.
You said about Feelin to get a lava and Wilson, they're like
yeah, maybe they start slow, they do still have obvious
scenarios where, if they're good?
They have strong. Second halves thielen helps us
do the first half, its kind of piecing together a little bit.
Kind of works the prayer. You should help some of the
guys, some of the guys from Peds Discord are in this with us.
But not ship Chasers there from the nft Discord and they're
they're doing the thing that all people who draft with piss boys
do for the first time, we like, look at these running back
values. I mean we did it you know it's
hard not to do when you have to remind yourself.
Oh yeah well it's like there's a difference between doing it for
Travis etn and doing it for David Montgomery or whoever
right? And now we got we got stack set
up, we're going to take Nicole Hardeman with our next
selection. Probably we got we got mad
Broncos to take I'm just really glad.
We're at five receivers before pick 100.
We narrowly got it in, but I don't think I could have slept
tonight. If we didn't make those
back-to-back, this is, this is a, this is a good question for
the chat, what? Given how easy it is to do at
ATP and given al-rai, the total and week 17.
Like what are the odds that there are three or more players
from Broncos Chiefs, on the winning line up, or, maybe, or
maybe the better question is There's got to be a better way
to phrase that question. I think the question basically
comes down to, like, in like if you advance a week 17 lineup,
With the total being what we know it's going to be, are you
going to want to be eating that chalk?
Right? Have a lineup that has that game
stacked some way. Do you want it full Stacks?
Do you want it partial stacked or do you want to fade it like,
right? Because it is like because those
combos like one because we expect those offenses to be so
good. So they're Advanced rates should
be good but like to like assuming that those offenses are
fine. Or above average in week 15 and
16. I mean we are going to see so
much you know like and and random guys to like Alberto and
Melvin Gordon and Hardman and sky.
Like like not even like the super premium parts are going to
be there in like on so many teams.
Yeah. Yeah. they're going to be that
because like, The Chiefs are just, they're just completely
uncertain. They it's like a rare thing
where, you know, that there's going to be a ton of and I guess
there's a chance that the Chiefs do, take a step back this year,
but we don't have another Chief right now and we took Garrett
Wilson and said of Clyde, over to Lair.
Yeah. Which it's smart because
planets. And there is not a stack to
pledge. Are are there are other.
There are other available. Kansas City, Chiefs and Denver,
Broncos. I would like a Kansas City.
Chief touchdown catcher. So it's gonna have to be me Cole
Harmon. Yeah, I was gonna say Jerick
McKinnon. I mean, I do we're taking
MacKinnon on this team and like the 15th round like yeah, sure.
Let me just make sure he made it in the queue.
And actually, how could you say at this point with 57, guys in
the queue, we have over fifty percent of the remaining player,
pool start. Fuck Hardman just went they
that's that's one of the club. That's one of the club Angie.
My guys, he told me he was going to do it to be a dick.
What can you do? The nice thing about him sniping
Hardman, is that hardman's going to be on the bench by the end of
the year. We're taking we're gonna take
from Andre here. Easy, I'm good with that.
You can with that bent. Sure, correlates or later.
Okay, what if we take Landry, do you want to take one day?
I would take. We have Tyreke, listen, Chase
Edmunds. Oh I don't care between Edmonds,
our savings and I like them both, but not Landry.
We lay a lot of a and Landry are bad.
You got to click because our Q is too full.
Oh my God. One day.
Let's getting, I gotta be careful when you use the Star
Trek could turn against Wow. Yeah.
I mean like we would have we literally would have gotten out
of dropped in one day, all there.
That is, that is the drawback that is, you guys aren't
concerned that were Mantra squeezed fuck.
Now, like pure Strong's. Good too.
He does, the squeezing reminder, doesn't squish?
Yeah, he is. The one he is, he is not, he is
not getting his door knocked on. He is the one who has been so
bonded in Dreadful entry. Know, why are we white blanket,
laid relay? Like, we already got her old
guy. We have Tyree kill, like we
don't, we don't need Jarvis. Landry, and half point.
I just want to see where you guys go with this.
However, mostly just, I'm entertained Wild.
Well unstack Thomas. It seems not not ideal here is
this team is probably not drawing live to win two million
dollars. I could we could win our leak.
Yeah it's not going to win whole thing.
I kind of think we could go Edmonds here and then be done at
running back thoughts. Well, I think we want to take a
Chiefs running back so I think we should not do that.
Take the Chiefs running back then guys.
What do you think about that? That's what that's what I want
to do. Let's take a cheap shot.
And back then, I had a teepee in a
but nothing matters. I love is Ronald Jones, like,
correlating with Patrick Mahomes.
Like, I understand that they do correlate, because they can
score 50, but like Ronald Jones upside scenarios are where he
gets, let me see your picture. Let me paint you a picture
Gretch. Let me, let me get comfortable
here. Well, don't take catching any
TVs, McColl heart open McColl Hardman running deep, some
safety on the Denver Broncos. I don't know any their safeties
instead of giving up the touchdown in McColl Hardman
because that would be Beyond embarrassing.
He just tackles him on the one-yard line, just shoulders
him, we're DPI, you know, I don't even know any NFL refs
names, this make it a lot better if I did flag thrown Bones on
the world yard line, Kelsey goes in motion.
Handed off to Ronald Jones, great scenario where our
quarterback at our running back combine.
Delayed as clip right there. But uh well you know I loved
your breakdown because basketball hoops would get 0
passing yards for that player. I'll just get one rushing yards
and a rushing TD. Okay, let me do it again.
They run, they run this the play where they all jump and turn in
a circle Mahomes. Fake hands off to Travis Kelce,
Ronald Jones. Leaks out uncovered, easy toss
pitch and catch uncovered touchdown, Ronald Jones, I like
it, we get 12 points for that. Well, I would like to thank
whoever took Hardman. Is it meant that I got to reach
half around for June's? Alexander Madison Fallen a
little bit I think was my highest own running back last
year. I haven't drafted in much this
year because I Chandler, I think might mix in some butt.
I like them a lot more Nicole's here.
I did this Ty Chandler thing. It's like, I don't know,
Madison's just good every time, the Dalvin cook is out like, why
are you messing with that? It's a new coaching staff.
I guess I mean that the definitely matters, right?
Looked at you a little was a fifth round pick.
Yeah, but it's a new regime. I don't know this team fucking
sucks though. Whoever getting getting sniped,
getting sniped on on mvs, just like really did not do it for
me. We had a QB We got Zach Wilson
and Daniel Jones in the back pocket.
Yeah we got Trevor Lawrence. Yeah, let's see what the
quarterback. There's plenty long.
We could go Lawrence. Winston Ryan, William.
Jones how much sense, it doesn't matter.
I'm not crane. Do you need me to venmo you
12:54 this or we good? No, no, we are on chip chasing.
We don't demand. Is this one, is this one on the
house? Yeah.
Okay. I'm able to cover you.
I mean, this team sucks. You might have to run the full
amount. I'm like ETR I will also stick
it. Winning riding this one off for
tax purposes. This one this one pizza party.
I mean this one got away from us like retroactively Let me paint
you guys. A picture Tyree kill gets traded
back to the Chiefs. Championship.
Yeah, dude, we've literally win. Let me write.
You, let me write you some fanfiction.
Jimmy Garoppolo gets traded to the Cleveland Browns.
In a three-team trade were Tyree.
Caleb Returns the Kansas City Chiefs.
Ah yes a bad team and sometimes this is going to happen.
Yeah, it will occasionally happen.
We don't have anything against you sometimes and and like I
think the the move when you draft a bad team, is to jam like
a backdoor stack, right? Yeah I think Justin Ross is like
squarely and play on no no no good.
I meant I meant we Jam the back door.
Stack like wee dram. We Jam the Patriots in here with
Tyreke Ramon Dre. Yeah I agree.
You want to grab Hunter Henry here sure.
Yeah get the second side and done with and then that gives it
back door stack. Yeah I think I do think I do
think that is the right way to like basically basically turn it
into like our week 17 stack became like the 2% own game
stack or whatever in the the Spy.
We also do have the Daniel Jones one available to us as well and
we have Jonathan Taylor. Yeah, and we, when we already
have Tony so we could go Jones one Dale.
Where did you do a seamless travel?
We're almost up. I'm curious, if he's Rising
today. If who is rising?
DJ more are? We're on the clock.
We go. Did I think we go?
Daniel Jones here, right? Yeah, I'm going to that
Jefferson's the best available receiver.
That's where we're at. We have five receivers.
Yeah, Dan Jones. Let's do it.
It was an easy who who said that he loved our onesies but did not
like our wide receivers that was prescient This is this the only
have five guys. This is you guys are
overreacting Gretsch is really overreacting.
Oh no, I'm just having a good time.
This is fun. I'm tired.
I'm just been like drinking. I can't I literally I literally
cannot imagine. Were you in a car for six hours
with your children? Yes, literally got home.
I thought I was going to be late a message paddles.
Like I hope there's not like rush hour traffic as I get back
to the city because I mean I literally what you're doing
right now is beyond what anything I can imagine.
Yeah. Long drive we didn't stop
because I was worried about missing the show.
I missed last week because I was in Hawaii sounds like, hey,
can't you know, Pete's out. I can't do it had a nation?
Yeah, that's some real dedication.
I feel bad though, because I thought you knew Davis is going
on and I'm glad he's here. What are we gonna come on Leo?
No, no, I mean, you could have popped on a bit later.
Sure. Yeah.
I wasn't. What is, what is talking to the
screen by yourself for a while? What is ship chasing with
everyone? Being on time?
I feel like that never happens. Yeah, it does.
It feel like this would tilt because I think we start usually
like when I first 30 seconds late and like Chad gets a quite
heated. You know, they set their, they
set their clocks, there are plenty of wide receivers that
are fine. Well, I'm impressed that that
Pat has not had any technical difficulties running the stream.
Not only to buzz print beautiful me to do you just do.
You just not have an Ethernet in your apartment?
I do Murphy choose it. Yeah.
So yeah, anytime I put it down, I'm buying a new one very
quickly. You know, you want my dog used
to do that. When I first got the little one,
vinegar spray. All right, dogs.
Fucking hate the smell of vinegar, dude.
This could be a game-changer. Yeah.
Real plus he's not he's not like a true.
Puppy is a year and a half now. So like I feel like you can tell
them to leave it like he knows leave it really well.
Yeah, but feel like I could tell him, leave it.
I have to do a few times but I think I could get it across It
should be. Yeah my my dogs were about a
year and a half when they stopped like fucking tearing up
shoes and shit. Hats, my dogs used to, if I
would leave my hat sitting around they would chew the strap
on the back. He likes shoes.
He does a still want to chew up shoes.
We get to take a hammer on this team.
Yes, that is happening that comes out of the back of my
head. I was like no one magic AJ at
work. All right, so I'm starting.
I'm not magic. Bombs is storing a touchdown to
KJ him. One week 17.
I don't know how he did. The Handler to Handler gets
traded for a seventh round pick to the Kansas City Chiefs.
Then Jefferson goes, that's what we like.
Love to see that. He was uncorrelated we weren't
gonna be able to take him anyway.
No, I mean it's just weird. We weren't drafting.
I'm so that's like doesn't matter that was his.
Any reason I can come up with did not to x out in Jefferson,
I'm going to come up with it. What like where our what's our
we click on wide receiver again? So we can see like, what were
One of my, one of my favorite people to talk to and we
literally don't agree on fucking anything.
Not one thing dude, he has some good tweets man.
He's a just these like random years ago.
Tweeter one-liner, he's great at it.
All right, what are we doing here?
Pete's back said, he might jump on late.
He's like a good decision. We got Ronald Jones did with
good business decision. Here.
Pete Pierce, right? Did Handler go?
Yeah, yeah, we're just God dammit beers, right?
That's where we're at. Yep, definitely what can we do?
We use up isolate the receivers though.
Like, are there any good ones that were not thinking of?
Yeah, one day, I'll baby. I think we might just want to
reach for Mondale here. Now in this room, is this not
even her reach? Yeah, it's a slight reach.
One way we could probably wait for me to get back.
What about will? Fuller like, Autumn fix any,
what about will Fuller on the bet that they see the Chiefs get
him cheaply. Oh my God, by the way, I
actually, I don't think that's gonna happen.
I'm starting with your, I'm in the other ones.
Getting a cheap fast. Get you.
Yeah, we gonna pick free agents. I'm starting to get really
worried that the bills are going to sign.
Well Fuller after after all of this Gabe Davis discourse, oh
no. I can't handle Twitter Victory
lap that note like because the reason I can't handle is because
no one's saying they might sign wolf, they might suck.
It's not like part of the discourse whatsoever.
It's about like his breakout. Looks like you got to put, you
got to put your Brian windhorse, you gotta do your now, why would
they do that? Why would they only pay Jameson
crowd, or less money than the best Ball Mania?
Three winner? Why would they not guarantee the
second year of Isaiah, MacKenzie's contract?
What's going on in Buffalo? What is going on in?
Load. Very curious.
Like, if Gabriel Davis boss, it'll honestly be one of the
all-time worst like the fish getting their of my lifetime
like truly. I think my favorite thing of the
last little bit, well actually it was, that was a great win
horse thing, but is that Pat just left that up?
That's what away. We just Pete was on stream with
us. Just underneath the road just
sitting there. I just felt more comfortable
with the common up. I completely forgot what it was.
Things like a like comment still up, huh?
Like oh yeah that's that's one me to get rid of.
McKinnon to the 15th. Oh boy, we are, people are just
fucking hate like this. I don't know how you guys do
this drafting on stream. Like, if this happened to me
once like if I got sniped them, a call Hardman 10, spots ahead
ATP. Once I'd never do it again.
It is tilting, man. Like to not be able to get any
Chief stacked with a home's past ATP.
It's fucking tilting. Is the easiest got a backdoor
stack in the league. I'm just like, you have to take
Justin Ross on this team. I isn't going to say it because
he's gonna get fucking second. So I want you guys in this champ
and fertile to us. So I was, I was doing.
I'm working my way through our projections and like updating
our rosters and everything right.
Now, I actually think the Fairly strong favorite to be the Chiefs
fifth wide receiver is dorias Fountain because he will play
special teams. So you think so, that means what
Gordon is not going to be it. So it'll be it'll be Gordon or
fountain or maybe they can six. But I don't think Justin Justin
Ross is going to have to be like good enough to play as a
rotational wide receiver week one.
I think for him to make the team which just feels hard, which is,
he's seems like a practice squad guys.
Why do they need a special teams gather?
Like Miko, play special teams. I don't think they can afford to
play him on special teams now. I think you I think you could
afford to play him on special teams when you had four other
wide receiver, so you could give snaps to but I don't Look, dude,
if McColl Hardman gets hurt, they're talking about like,
relying on Josh Gordon. I think I think they would
rotate Juju and sky in the slot and figure it out.
I think that'd be fine. Let me let me look at me.
I mean I could be wrong. Let me look at hardman's.
Special team snaps from, I was looking to Juju played human
play, two thirds of a snap and snaps in the slot and like 2019
and 2018, very similar like right around two thirds of snaps
that was up to 80% the last two years.
But like, yeah, so just on this topic.
Hardman only played 42 Special teams snaps last year, which is
was like a huge decrease from the years before and he is more
relevant to them on offense now. So, I just don't, I mean maybe
Sky more plate. Maybe, maybe the answer is Sky,
more play, special teams. I don't know if you did it at
all in college. Yeah, I don't know.
I mean generally they kind of make rookie wide receivers, do
that shit. Remember remember Dez.
Bryant returning. Punts right right.
He was a really he was awesome as we really need.
That was his I think Dez. Bryant's first touchdown was a
punt return if I remember correctly.
Does was it sounds Vaguely Familiar?
The kids don't know, you'll just go goddamn it.
This draft fucking stretched across most jumped in to suggest
Julio. And I've quietly just been
excited, draft them ever since, all right?
Dig a brain Giga. Brain 19th, our Odell Beckham
signs with the Kansas City Chiefs, is not active until
December, but plays and week 17 for the Kansas City Chiefs.
Boom done. Drafted its.
So it's literally the only thing I mean I strap but this graph I
was gonna I was gonna Galaxy bring Fisk because there was
actual talk of this type of that of that happen.
Goddamn it. That's so much better.
Yeah. Well, fuck it tends to
quarterbacks. We can take Derek or in the
eighteenth round. Yeah, we only need one more,
receive it? 61 during touchdown.
Run the correlation man. Roll the clip.
All right, let's go drive to the basket.
I never realized how fast you look in.
That one. That's sped up.
It's like two times. This looks like a burner at
least running a 43 when you put it on.
He's all into X. Yeah.
Damn. Sorry.
Justin Made other bets. What do we have here?
Nothing in terms of zhongshi, we got a shitty.
We got a shitty fucking fantasy football.
It is so frustrating. I have it's not even correlated.
It's just like a random collection of it.
It did. The sickening thing is it
actually is very correlated. It's just not correlated to the
one player we wanted which was Patrick Mahomes, it's actually
like a future. Biscuit.
If you actually go through, I think every player on our team
is correlated with one other player.
At least we got that going for is which well, actually it is
funny because we do have two Jags.
So we do have the we're good either way with visca this guy,
just I liked it. The theme of tonight's show was
you just have to take bad players sometimes.
And I think we really, we really we really hammered that home
with these selections of Alec Pierce Odell Beckham and Hunter
Henry. Yeah, what I would like to point
out is that we have Tyree kill correlated with Hunter, Henry
and week 17 got and where my aunt and reminder laundry.
And we also have Daniel Jones, double stacked with Canary
Estonia. Mondo Robinson, Jonathan Taylor
and Alec Pierce calm back. I mean, that's that week 17
correlation. We're talking about who cares
about my home. You just need most honest lie.
Honestly Galaxy brain paint your seat.
Pay yourself a picture Mahomes. Blows up week 16 we use his
Points stinks week 17, they already have the, they already
have the division locked up. Handing the ball off to Row.
Joe. Easy peasy, baby.
This is, this is a soft fate of that Casey game.
We still have pieces at least, 20% that you want, five guys
from that, Giants Colts game and weeks.
It would be, it would be so much if that game that game is in New
York. Unfortunately that game was in
Indiana. Bliss.
I don't know, maybe it's it would be more interesting to me.
Gretch Gretch talked ourselves into this team.
I'm gonna do it guys Gretch. I have a Galaxy.
Yeah go ahead let's pick we could do Marlin Mac for the
Texans come back to this gross Jags double we could do Eno
because we have sweet have it. Yep.
It's you know you know you know so Josh I really hope they're
still watching us. Yeah I did because this was this
Mac is a much better pick, right?
Like he could start for them. Sure, that's fine.
Marlon, McGill's, give it to him smiling, because the appeal, I
just for the wealthy because the crane, you know, the original
pic, I made that like sent Norris off the cliff was Tyler
allergy, or because I had taken Zach ertz like that was, the,
that was the initial point of them being like, just too much.
This is bullshit. Yeah.
All right. So why is Marlon Mack going so
late? He's like very live to leave
them in a rush because all the people all the people drafting
right now, are people like us? It's just all, it's all
youth-obsessed people. Damn, I had a Galaxy brain.
Oh Gretch Hayden had this Hayden had the my brain cannot even
reach this levels of galaxies but all of the East Coast games
are like anti-correlated because it's on New Year's Day.
What if it's cold as shit? And snowy on New Year's Day on
the Eastern Seaboard, all the outdoor eastern, sea board games
are negative correlations. So they're like, you like like
you want to be drafting Middle Ground fairy, Geographic
correlation. Yeah, love The geographic
correlation. I need a map for every drop-ins
in it. Wherever we'd 17 game is
to win. I mean honestly, that's the next
step of fantasy football Evolution.
We just got to get whose it. Kevin Ross out of here to give
us that week, 17 weather report, but in July.
All right, so we do some saucing.
We do have a recap looks awesome.
It's cursed out here. Spits, you know better
correlation than Earth's algier? I think it's less gross.
It's more like, betting on. Like like fun, flashy players.
Yeah, yeah. Could see no pizza.
It's, you know, isn't quite as bad.
All right. Let us know if you want sauce.
We got pic for pic 5. I don't think we're in a
position to Sauce anyone. Well, we have we probably
shouldn't sauce after that. Dress.
Sure. You think you want chip chasing
to review your team? How much sauce would you like on
your team, right? Oh, I love this.
You asked for this sauce. He wants it extra Saucy.
You think it's spicy. He wants 13 pool boy.
You realize you can't handle the heat here.
It's guy. Do we have to review his tank?
Why did you take Moyle and hot? What are you doing?
So fucking Cute with a 0. RB, Evan you will speak when you
are spoken to fuck off. Christofle team shit.
Chasing team readings, are getting spicy this, it's who he
wanted her to All right, so I believe we had a request for
Team 5. Well, we got a saucer on team
first, right? Yeah, well I guess we already
did that for the entire draft. Yeah look any time you can take
Patrick Mahomes two spots after ADP and absolutely only
correlate him with a guy who's going to catch 20 passes on the
seat and I think you just gotta do it.
No. And you reached in the 0.1%
chance that he's somehow Lance on the cheek and visca the
Becca. You guys are writing off the
Mahomes, the mountain, 2% chance.
I think that he has on the teeth, we got a double stack, we
do have a double stacked now, it's important with these to
bring it back. So let me just find our Bronco
here. We need to get Melvin Gordon, we
need to get Melvin Gordon, fucking Franco could have taken
dosage. All right, other than that,
pretty good soup. Other than other than Ike, how
many passes combined our running backs, going to catch like 8:16,
idiot. Never even PPR, which is
important. You want to factor that in.
Well, ye Tian is going to reinjure his foot and week 3 of
the preseason. And we're going to be down to
meeting points from Marlin Mac. Well, honestly, so John Shipley
was on a good football show with us, and he was saying he thinks
that you that James Robinson will will play on third Downs.
Like even if he's lost explosion because they trust him so much
as a pass blocker so like dtn. Etm might be like a Kenyan
Drake, like explosion back, who doesn't actually catch a lot of
passes. It could be coming yet.
He Tian. Setting up to be the worst
third-round. Pick since Felix.
Jones etn is a bad third round pick.
And I was hammering him and like the fifth six range when he was
there, but I, yeah. The price difference makes, I
mean, I disagree with all of that.
But okay, you're in some in the third.
Well, I don't love them in the third, but like, all of that was
predicated on James Robinson, being healthy enough.
And it's going to be tough from to get back.
Even if he is a good pass protection, be tough for him to
get back from the Achilles Like new coaching staff, new coaching
staff. They don't know any allegiance
to James Robinson. Yeah, but it's Hammer Snoop
Connor. No it just concerns me that they
were like he was because I was saying like what about the kill
is like how much Faith you have that.
We like fully healthy. He's like not a ton but I still
think it'll be out there. Even if Like yeah, could be
darted them bwalya, you know what I mean?
Just like, yeah, sure he could but like to be like, oh now
we're out on etn because a guy who's come back from an Achilles
tear late late season. I that's that's the part.
I was saying I disagree with but it's like, I don't know, that's
that I'm not. And I'm definitely starting to
hear it's just yeah. It's like the downside scenarios
start to become a little bit more prominent my mind went when
his price jumps by three routes. Yeah, that's fair.
That's fair. All right, when we saucin saucin
the five slot here. Did I take one too many running
backs? 5 slot.
All right, Lamar Jackson? Kirk Cousins, he's got AJ Dylan,
Tony Pollard, Darrell Henderson, Darryl Williams, Gus Edwards.
Hassan Haskins, I think? Did you take any running backs?
Yeah, I mean, any time you can take the fourth running back on
the Arizona Cardinals and a guy who's not going to make the
Titans and a 0. RB build.
I think you just gotta jump at it.
Yeah. I would, I would try to take
more than three running backs. General.
Yeah, Jamar Chase Mike Williams. Deante, Johnson, Drake, London
Alma zard. Michael Gallup.
George Pickens Khalil Shakir is there, is there a correlated
pick on this team? He's got, he's got Mark.
Andrews and Lamar. Mark Andrews in the mar.
Yeah, he's got curve and cousins.
Oh yeah. Because he had Factor husband's
with herbs Smith. You've done.
Yeah. But you gotta get cousins.
Have a stealer. Does he have a single stealer
Yes. George Pickens.
Okay. I've always just dust ball.
Kirk Cousins needed to unlock his real fantasy.
Ceiling is an herb Smith break. It was the tight end coming back
from a catastrophic lower body. You gotta get out of feeling,
you just got a draft. Also, you cannot draft a to down
running back as an attempt to stack up with your quarterback,
dude, you blew it. All right, that was a trial
judge show. All right, who else we got to
have some options? Don't those pretty good receiver
room though? And the tight end.
I mean that's it's outside ends, but I think nine asked for
sauce, right? Who also bringing three as for
sauce here, re-tweeting. 30 Josh you got me there, you got -
funny team 3? Yeah, I 49 did ask as well.
I want to see this team, nine, our team for what we're doing
for. This is team for Justin Herbert
Davis Mills, so Davis, or you push it.
Like if you have Herbert, are you pushing it this far?
No, I think I think this is bad because I ate like you're
expecting her to be good, but I don't think we're expecting her.
Like, I just don't, I don't even think with Josh Allen you push
it that far. I still think you want a second
quarterback. You feel has some ceiling and
Like a favorite to start 17 games.
So it's like the Texans could just go in any direction they
need to and awesomo just published that article last week
showing how much extra playoff points.
A third quarterback is worth, I could actually impacts your
expected value of your team. So I can't imagine having only
two quarterbacks the second one of which is being super shaky is
like that good. Like I think this is the same
argument that people make when they're.
Like, if you take Kelsey in the first round, just don't take.
Take a second tight end, bro. It's like I just doesn't, it
doesn't feel structurally sound to me.
Great. Quarterbacks were a bit more
expensive here than you. Oh Zach Zach.
Wilson went undrafted so. No I don't.
Oh there's no opportunity cost Mills.
That's why I thought it was more expensive because the guys
didn't go. Yeah, jeez.
You're gonna like his tight end that Davis.
Did you see who he took on the 20th round?
Wow, I take it all back, you don't need, you don't need the
quarterback points for you're getting your quarterback points
in Flex. This team wins the draft.
Now if you if you were taking taysom Hill as we talked about
before, it'd be one thing right? If it's like oh taysom Hill.
Yeah, we had that exact Ur. It's definitely not who I am
pairing tasting meal with. I guarantee you that you.
You cannot take him with Zach hurts.
You can't take everything I like.
Like Zach ertz. Zach, ertz is like an ankle turn
away from like, who is the guy on the bills?
Who just left at half-time? Yeah, Zach ertz Eckert's is 35,
dude. He's not being paid enough for
this shit. Like he's just going to be done
on a davis. Yeah. so, you
By the way, by the way, this guy did do an homage though, to the
B. He did do the Earth's allergy or
correlation, which I can respect as from we do like yeah.
All right. So team nine, I'm still
flabbergasted the tail. What I drafted for Davis was
that was that was the best, like, actual good sauce.
That's like, like it. Believe you notice any other
double Titans receive it? It's letting the Galaxy in your
brain, like, go too far like extent.
Like it's like, it's like, sure haverstick streaming to rapidly.
Like, like, maybe Ryan Tannehill is not a great pick, maybe he
might buy week, 17 be on the bench formally.
Willis, but you did not draft that way.
Right. Birds and Robert Woods, the chat
continues to toss this sauce. Team 3, yeah, we get it.
Our team sucks because it was bad.
All right, let's move on to team nine.
Let's see. T9 we got Dak Prescott, Jared
booth. That for some reason, feels more
acceptable to me. But, you know, I like I think
off is, is the almost ideal back back.
Stop quarterback. You're not taking three there
with Gotham that, I don't know what I would have to depend on,
on how much he has those guys stacked up if they're single
stacked or whatever. But if he's got double sacks on
them, I would take. I would Derrick Henry, I would
take a fifth running back because I'm expecting him to
miss multiple games this season. He might be the guy you need in
week, 17 or whatever. And I don't hate like obviously
this is a piss boys draft. So we got him after ATP,
although it's funnily enough, he didn't really get him after ATP
because he just took lame and Henry and reverse order.
Like those guys are popular pairing you know what I mean?
Right. Honey.
But Henry might even be the guy you needed a week 17.
But I think he's going to play like 12 games this year.
Like I think that they will like kind of maintain him a little
bit better than they have in years past.
I do like it here this B p--. If you're watching, feel free to
Jump On In. V at tight end.
It took shark. Oh no, you didn't get Schultz.
He didn't get inside and see what he's got.
We've got not having a tight end on your roster.
He's got, I'm going to say with the way he Giga stack, this I'm
actually fine the two quarterbacks because he is he
has two Cowboys and three Titans.
He took Tyler higbee, Hayden hers in Austin and I don't, I
don't know why would he do that? I believe what her husband have
never been seen in room together, they might.
All be the same man. That was a great drop into the
water. That was really good.
It was I'm gonna I'm like I like I wanted to like try and do like
a new windhorse like fantasy football tweet every single day
because they just they're bringing me.
It's just bringing me so much. Joy this team I'm a little
worried about your wide receivers actually no I'm
worried about your tight ends. I'm really worried about you.
I actually am not worried about your tight ends because you kept
it so cheap getting hurt. He'd be so cheap.
Like I don't get why like he goes what three rounds After
Earth Smith? When the whole bull case for
herb? Smith is that he might play.
As many snaps is Tyler higbee in a worse offense.
I don't get it. I'm looking for earlier video.
This guy should have taken taysom you needed.
A little bit of spice on that on that.
Yeah. Like chicken salad, like like
gross grocery store, chicken salad I-10 room.
Yes, taste. It would have been a great fit
here. He would have been, he would
have been the paprika that kind of ties.
It all together, you know? Yeah, I also would have kind of
kept the circus. This is the same style here for
the in the tight and right now we know why if you're taking
only slow, white guys at tight end.
Now, why would you not take? Taste of Mill, very curious,
very curious going on in the pick nine slot.
Why is the one I speak? Not saucing us II.
Do actually feel a little disrespected that people won't
come on and make fun of her team?
All right, last last one here. So this is, this is this is one
of my buddies. This he is in, he is in club NG,
am I? And, and we talked about picks
and players all the time, so he was definitely could not wait.
To twist the knife on us here with the Chiefs player.
Let's see how you did easy. Let's see if you actually,
because Davis is pumped you up? You're such a short.
I got, I'm not pumping, I'm not pumping him up.
I'm saying he's being a dick. Look anytime, anytime, you
compare David Montgomery and Josh a comes together to have
the fucking least aesthetically pleasing running back room of
all time. You just should not do it.
And you should always take a fifth one.
Well, I guess he's going for hyper fragile here which you
know that pairs. Well when you have David
Montgomery, DJ the more you want.
Good running backs when you go for hyper fragile that's the Via
that's generally the whole idea of it.
He can't else. Did he take Kelsey and not get
my homes? No he didn't get Kelsey he got.
Who the fuck was this round pick.
Oh awkward. He's got the baker double with
DJ more and Robbie Anderson. Yeah, I'm sure that's a really
unique construction. That is not going to be
duplicated very much. Yeah, I bet, I bet you, I bet
you were the first one to think about tapping the button
literally got heating, just gonna pull a report of July, 6
drafts this look for the fish, to drafted Baker and double
stack, like and and and and like the the 19th layer of being like
I'm going to trap Rob Gronkowski because people have forgotten.
They forgotten that his agent said he would. under coming
back, it's like The guy in the guys working on his WWE career
grow give up the ghost Julio and Gronk.
Now why now why would Rob Gronkowski's agent?
Tell Adam schefter that he was pondering a return to the NFL on
the same day that he Instagram reported that he would retire.
Very curious. You have to ask yourself if I
rub my house keys agent, do that.
Now, why would Mike Evans? Who has a lot more Target going.
Malik runs retard told reporters that he thinks crunk isn't
coming back. Why would he do that?
Why is he, is he in contract negotiations with the
organization, exciting, they're paying a shit ton of money is
going on, in Tampa Bay. Thanks for leaving that place.
I love, I love the idea that there are people listening to
this, who have no fucking clue, Brian went horses, and they're
good. Watch the clip.
If you don't, because it's one of the strangest things I've
ever seen it is that the most unreal Thing is that it proved
to be so prescient like if he was just talking out of his ass,
it would be one thing. But the fact that he clearly
knew what was going on makes it so much better.
I don't watch the NBA so explain to me exactly how he was
prescient. Rudy gobert.
Got traded in like eight hours later for like a million first
round picks. Okay.
So the guy he's talking about in that clip and Kevin Durant,
requested a trade. But the big deal is that Rudy
gobert. Yeah.
You told was blowing up their rosters.
Yeah, he was he was teammates. He was teammates with Royce
O'Neill. There you go.
I just connected those. I didn't realize Pat didn't have
those dots. Correct.
So the guy he's talking about when tourists is talking about
is teammates with a guy who got traded like six hours later for
like a million. First round picks.
Okay. So pretty much home run.
I mean, straight up your nailed it.
Yeah, it's pretty awesome. How did kott it kind of putting
Shams and whoa, just like, I don't know, man.
He's kind of been on it went or says you love to see it.
Good for one more step. It was a bizarre worlds.
Road is just eating shit right now because he got roasted so
hard on the anyway. Graph prop bets, this guy took
Juju and Michael just so we could stack.
Yeah, literally, literally just to Twist it which like, you
know, anytime you can steal 37 cents.
Expected always right from your favorites.
You know, he's got, he's got rust rust, Judy, he and Alberto,
he did the big big Denver Casey stack, which I mean, you made
such a convincing argument Davis.
You had to have five guys from that.
Game, that yeah, no, he drafted, he drafted a good team.
He got one over on us. Fucking guy.
Do you as a banker go stack? Let's not, let's not tell him
off over the I think couldn't we see the Chiefs and the Broncos
guys. Jump up pretty considerably here
because it does seem like was is more people want to Stack this
game like no no Pat the inverse is going to happen because when
we're getting to a spot to where like I don't know, what's a big
amount of entries and best Ball Mania, three in one day, like
I'm thinking in terms of fill rate and I can't even get there
like how many drafts of best Balmain III like when when, when
it's just filling up and it's like Percent every day and it's
like, holy shit. It's going to close any day.
Now, those people fucking Nick words that can't be good.
He saw something real good. So David is pushing for me.
It was so easy to factor. Yeah, we back to our segment,
with zero Broncos and Ronald Jones, the easy so easy to back.
Anyway, my point is your, your your buddy who drafts his three,
best Ball Mania team. He's on Labor Day is not
correlating week 17. Yeah, well, so that does,
though, I still kind of have a version of the same point though
because my recollection of those drafts is that like, yes,
they're not correlating but they're taking guys, sometimes
there's sometimes it still reaching for players that they
just happen to like or the drafting off ranks.
And they're, you know, they're not really keeping a teepee in
mind. And so it gets more chaotic like
If you're going in going all right I'm going to stack these
guys up. I know this guy goes here and
this guy goes here it all falls perfectly into the pockets of
the draft that's that you're much more likely to get that
stuff blown up for you later. In the in the draft season is
more. People aren't paying attention
to stacking like when everyone stacking it's actually easier to
stack. To some degree.
Sometimes you're competing against the other side of the
game, but I just feel like you were Charlie Day at the board
with the with the pins right there.
That was too much too much. If there's chaos in the room it
can be hard to execute a plan. That's basically what it is.
Oh yeah like if people are just basically selecting players at
random and you're used to drafting your teams in a certain
way and guys are going in different locations, I get that
it's like it's like like how much later is Mike Williams
going to go and ffp seemed an event wraps and he goes on
Underdog because people are not hyper focused on that.
That it's like he's like and he's like at a 10.
He's like at a 10 round premium because of the game he or ten
pick premium because of the game he plays in.
Yeah. So stuff like that will break
down but then you also have people because I think I don't
know, this is just a theory, I could be wrong, but it feels
like people. If you're using ranks for a few
using ATP, people have like a very good understanding of what
the ATP is right now. I don't have ranks loaded in
here. I like just looking at the ATP.
When iI agree with you, I've been I've gotten an argument
about Leone with this as well and he's like, Which I just
think I for me, specifically the way I dropped.
I want the ATP in because I am trying to have the market, be my
main differentiator my main decision Point me too, and I by
Pilar takes in my head, you know, right.
Exactly. Yeah, the player takes are not a
problem. The but what's going to happen
is we get into the later part of the summer is that people are
going to hop on ETR wherever and just load up ranks, and they're
not going to have been drafting a bunch or not going to
necessarily We know where these powerful shot parents tried.
Perryman is going to get steamed again or whoever.
Yeah, so I think you're going to see.
So anyways, just going to get a lot harder to be like, yeah, I
can just sit back in the pocket and get my stacks, like your
that have to start. Is that what's happened with
etn? It, did etn.
Get like a 10-spot bump or something?
Like, what happened with him going from the fifth round of
the third round? I don't think he's been juicin
etrs ranks. I think it's just kind of like,
like no one was making the bear case and you like you're just
kind of like He makes sense for a etn, is a more egregious
third-round pick than Gabe? Davis has of late.
Fourth round pick Why does he do this on a shitty team and might
be, I not bleed, third Downs. I like, he Tian, I was just
excited to take him right there, but I mean, he's a first round
pick. Arguably was better than nausea
Harris as a prospect. I mean, I thought he was, I
mean, I think he's amazing. I wanted to go to the Chiefs.
Yeah. The team's I think Eric's right
City and said he was healthy and Camp.
Yeah, that's a yeah Erica's right.
That is what Happened. But I mean, you're talking about
a guy that if we saw on the way, I've put it.
As if we saw him do anything last year caption passes, make
some explosive players score few TVs.
He's probably a second round or at least a third round or
already or does it go? Let it go.
The other way.
That if we saw him last year playing on that Shay Jaguars
team and a 50/50 timeshare with James Robinson, they've actually
both be cheap. I think it would have the other
you would have had to have been really bad because look at Jim
on every recipe buddy. Everyone was bad on the Jaguars.
Every single player was bad too except for Dan Arnold but like,
Johnson Williams was in a chair and had some good Advanced
that's and things and people bought into the talent and that
like that would have happened with he Tian.
If we saw him. Do ya know, are you know, did
you want to add 1,000 yards and seven touchdowns etn?
Would not have gotten that on the Jaguars last year?
Probably the only side at one point.
It did any good, any Jaguar, good to 1,000 yards last year
from scrimmage. Yeah, biscuit it.
Alright good. She'll see you guys.
Yeah, probably not. I doubt any ejected now.
Marvin Jones. No.
Marvin Jones 832. James Robinson, 989 from
scrimmage. With eight touchdowns?
Yeah. All right guys, let's get out of
here. Davis, tell people what you got
going on Sports Group, take cast Sports great fantasy football
podcast. I'm on TV, everyday sports grid
TV from 11 to noon Eastern Time. I just got back from vacation.
So doubt right on projections. Yeah, we recorded that before I
left for the road trip on Saturday night.
It was a really good one. It was a really good one of our
more kind of Evergreen ones. I like when Shauna, I mean, that
was sort of the idea of our discussion from the beginning of
Shanghai would have these conversations really like Where
we would go with them and it's like, you know, let's just let
the people in on him. This was one of those
conversations. It's like a good one for him and
I to sink our teeth into some theoretical stuff sometimes.
So I would definitely recommend that one to anyone who thinks
projections or interesting or cares about the broader ways
that we value players in this industry and all those things.
I mean I think there's a lot there.
Nice. All right, check out a good
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