Good morning from Grand Island, NY, it's north of Buffalo where
it is hot. July 1st Happy Canada Day.
Happy Bobby Bonilla Day to those who participate in that
$1,000,000 a year. A little more must be nice for
another 10 years. Still after today, pretty good.
We will talk about the Dolphins, Steelers trade, of course Miami
and Pittsburgh playing nice, that'll be interesting.
What happens to the principal players on those teams after the
trade? Yesterday we will dive into NHL
free agency with Pat Karine and talk about Canada Day with Jacob
and how are we celebrating and let's go risers, fallers and the
obligatory Cowboys running back analysis Mike show up with our
heroes Pat Karine, Jacob Sanderson and eventually Davis
Maddock. This is ADP chasing July 1st,
2025. ADP chasing is for When you
watch ship chasing, you go. These guys are just football
guys. I.
Have my 4% exposure blanket. To stay for actually back in if
it's Sasha neck. It's here to our crystal ball.
close your eyes. You know all your entries are
going to lose anyway. Yeah, that's fair.
You're. Not going to told me all this
way I was here. It's anti cabal, it's anti the
best ball thought leader. I'm obviously lying to some
degree because like, I have a lot of both of these guys.
It's the most disgusting thing you can make, but.
Man. Morning, guys.
Happy Canada, Dayton. Rock Mug.
That is the nice thing you've ever done for me.
Wow. I feel so.
Celebrated by Canada Yeah, curling.
Curling is actually the best TV sport in the world.
People sleep on curling. But you want to you want a good
time, just sit there on the couch with with some friends and
you know, you go up, you can be the telestrator.
You go up to the TV or like here's what I would call, Yeah,
you guys got to watch more curlers.
That's the one. I mean.
Brooms. They got a.
Yeah, I curled. I curled for six years.
Wow. If we're not going to lose pat
through hockey, we'll definitely run the risk of losing him
through curling. I'm more intrigued by curling,
honestly. Professional curler.
No, I couldn't name a single. Maybe Jacob Sanderson.
Did you ever GoPro that's? My best No, I did not.
I did not. Jacob, you have a favorite.
You have a favorite Manor. Wars.
I mean, Jennifer Jones is the. Winnipeg.
Goat she's she curled at my home club and she won like 8 Canadian
titles. I met Brett Lang last year.
I've texted you a couple of pictures from events, the one at
Maple Leaf Gardens. Yeah, there is a Maple Leaf at
the bottom of this mug, but I have to drink the coffee.
Is breaking up for me. I don't know is is that the
problem for anyone but me? No, I got, I got full show.
All right, well. Is that, is that a bit?
Because I'm talking about curling and.
Honestly, no. Like you're like my internet's
helping me out. Like you're when you started
talking about curling, you just it, it was silent and you were
still. You must have a setting, you
must have a setting all all things Canadian.
You must have a setting to sort of breaking up, not working for
me. Davis will be here later.
Jacob, how are we celebrating today?
National holiday. Yeah, nothing crazy.
I think I'll probably head to the beach after this, meet up
with some friends. I don't know, maybe just like,
drink some Maple syrup. We'll see.
I'll pat. This is, I'm Mike too.
But I'm just, I have like, so much faith in Mike's ability to
ace Canadian trivia. Could either of you name the
first Canadian Prime Minister who oversaw our creation of the
country on July 1st, 1867? No, no, no, of course not.
Not. That's about 100 years too late.
Come on. She was a great Canadian Prime
Minister. How about this?
It's right there. How about this?
Other than Justin Trudeau and Mark Carney, Pat Karain, can you
name one other Canadian Prime Minister?
How about that mayor that did a bunch of blow?
Does that count? Rob something?
Rob Ford gets to rob the late Rob.
Digs of mayors. Did he make did he make it to
Prime Minister eventually? No, he did not.
He died shortly after that. I have a favorite Prime
Minister. But now the premier of Ontario.
All right, Doug Ford, I I have a favorite.
Prime. Minister, but it has nothing to
do with politics. Like all of my we'll get to
politics in a second when we talk about the Cowboys.
But Mulrooney was the first Canadian Prime Minister when I
was a kid, like Reagan and Mulrooney went together.
So that's he was not the first. And of course, Pierre Trudeau,
the most glamorous and, you know, very exciting.
Though I mean, I I wasn't anywhere close to being born,
but everything I've read seems like you just ruled.
Seems like he was a cool guy. Mulroney seems a little less
cool to me, but yeah, definitely.
Yeah, he was also Prime Minister.
Sir Johnny McDonald was the 1st. Johnny McDonald?
Damn that's pretty bad ass Canadian name.
Sounds a pretty American to be honest.
You guys look into that? Is he actually American?
Johnny McDonald. Well, he was more.
Can ask name. You've, you've got to read up on
Pierre Trudeau's wife, just Justin Trudeau's mother, 'cause
she's a lot to, she's a lot to read about.
Well, keeping with the politics theme, Pat, slide one
apparently, as I read in the chat last week, we talk about
the Cowboys running backs every week.
And I guess it's, it's, it's just, you know, people playing
politics. I mean, this is what you do not
want to bring up at your at your dinner table or whatever you're
doing for the 4th. Now that Jacob has left the room
for the moment, this is what we don't want to be talking about
because it's politically motivated.
What is going on here, Pat? So I did read in the chat last
week, as I mentioned, Cowboys running backs.
I guess we talked about this all the time.
Didn't realize it, but yeah, this is good.
I I can't make out anything you're saying.
Hopefully Jacob heard that. I'm going to reload and and
hopefully I'll be able. To.
Hear you This is the This is the political alignment chart of
Cowboys running back. Yes, yes.
That alerted to me, which I guess was also true for the
entire mini. So that's unfortunate that I had
the wrong mic input. And then I spent about 5 minutes
trying to figure out why I had the wrong mic input selected and
I realized it was because my my mic wasn't plugged in eventually
so so. Working out the kinks for.
That mystery, I see this, this is this is this rules.
So we've got Hunter Lufke. OK, so Hunter Lufke is like the
the Tom Cotton here. And we've got Phil Mafa is maybe
or Javonte is, I guess on the edge.
So so that's like the Lisa Murkowski.
They might be able to get her to vote against the the big
beautiful bill. I think that it's a little
further over. I, I think, I think it's kind of
one of. These things, Javonte's a little
further over. Yeah.
OK. So he's like he's like Bill
Cassidy. He was like thinking about
voting against RFK. Yeah, but he's going to he's
going to do whatever. He's cancel the vaccine.
So he did it. Jayden Blue is like in this in
this graph looks kind of like a Hakeem Jeffries.
Like just write down, you know? I would say he's probably like
Chuck Schumer, you know, just Chuck Schumer is is not that
inspiring, but he's there, all right?
He's there. Doesn't really have the track.
Record of it. I just want Davis to come back
now to get really mad that I just called Jaden Blue, Chuck
Schumer. MILES, San.
He'll find out, kind of. Like a grisly old but left
awake. Maybe like an Ed Markey type of
guy. And then Cavante Tarpon.
I mean clearly none other. That's Mom Donnie, baby.
That's Mom Donnie. Yeah.
Absolutely. Yeah.
OK, So what does all of that mean?
Anything to do here? Actually, not at all, you guys.
Know. Did you guys know that people
are saying we talk about the Cowboys every week?
Last week I might have said something.
They're the new Giants. Receivers The Cowboys running
back to the new Giants. Years none of this actually
matters or will be valuable, but it's.
Right. Is it that interesting?
Yeah, it isn't bad to talk about.
Interesting. Hunter Lubkee.
How did that happen to this show?
I don't even know, but I guess that's also what we do the the
deep dive names. Well, he's like, he's so far to
the right that he's almost, he's like fascinating.
You know, I like want to look more into it.
Like, oh, wow, you, you think that that's, that's pretty
interesting. Maybe this Carlson.
No, no, no, no, that that's a different path.
That's a different branch. It's somebody whose name could
get us kind. Of vibe someone like he's like
making his own food. You know, he's, he's got, he's
got like a, like a trap door with like with a bunch of canned
goods and stuff. That's I'm like, I'm you've
turned back the clock. It's 1850 in your mind and I've
got some questions like I I'm going to sit down.
You've got some, some good, some good bourbon.
You know that you've, you've been working on.
Let's let's chat, you know. Something like he's like Phil
Mogga. Yes.
Totally. Lumpke has become Unabomber
adjacent on this. On this yeah, yeah, yeah.
Star crossed show. Nonviolent, Of course.
Nonviolent. Nonviolent, right?
Yeah. The Hunter Lumpke horseshoe
theory. As far as I think our
conversations go, Jacob, you're the Mile Sanders guy.
I'm the. Mile Sanders guy becoming less
and less the Mile Sanders guy as ADP approaches the One 60s.
So I'm I'm becoming the I got my bag packed and I'm good guy with
Miles Sanders I think, but I've still been mixing him in at his
current ADPII think. I wish Davis was here for this
because I I feel like he really would have appreciated this.
I listened to your guys great episode with with Gretch on the
rookie running Max which also featured a long Cowboys running
back discussion, as is every episode of this.
Channel as a ship chasing episode does.
And I feel like people the don't play enough Devi or or or maybe
play the appropriate amount of Devi, which is to say none at
all, don't have quite enough appreciation for the arc of
Jayden Blue. So like Jayden Blue high 4 star
prospect. Like he comes in and he is like
a dude and it is like him and it's Bijon.
And there's all these other guys are well, he was actually before
Bijon, I think. And then they they kind of keep
bringing in these other high star.
So does that mean he was competing with Roshan?
Yeah, I think initially and then eventually they bring in all
these other guys and like Bijan comes in, he eats his lunch.
And then the last guy that was going to come in and eat it,
well, Jonathan Brooks comes in, eats his lunch like he should
have been ahead of Jonathan Brooks, but he he wasn't.
I think that was the same class and Brooks with a lower recruit.
And then specifically they bring in CJ Baxter and CJ Baxter was
absolutely going to eat his lunch and then he gets hurt.
And so all the Devi people like me that had been high on Jayden
Blue Once Upon a time is like, OK, this is finally the Jayden
Blue season. And This is why like when you
see, oh, his carries randomly didn't give him any carries.
It wasn't random. He was just given the job after
CJ Baxter got hurt. And then he was really bad at
the job. So they were like, do we have
anyone else? And they were like, we have this
random guy named Trey Wizner. And then he's not that good
either. But he was clearly a better
runner than Blue. And then blue just like nose
dived and got phased out of the running portion of the offense
over the course of the year. But blue is legitimately good as
a pass catcher. So they like used him in that
role. But that's why I like the idea
that he had like these 20 carry games at Texas.
It's it's like it's literally he did what the Naeem Hines season
was, which was like Marlon Mack got hurt.
They were like Naeem Hines, can you run the ball?
And they were like, no. And then they were like, how
about Jordan Wilkins? And now that was that was what
happened at Texas. But like he he, his carries
existed solely because they had no other choice.
And then eventually they found one even where it seemed like
none was available. He he's not a runner.
This sounds like like Donovan Edwards to me.
Yes, it is kind of, he is kind of Donovan Edwards, yeah.
That's exactly. Edwards.
Donovan Edwards, the Michigan back and then Khalil Mullings
came in and kind of took over that some of the early down
stuff because Edwards stinks as a runner and is a is a good pass
catcher in a kind of a different way than blue.
He's not like the explosive guy. He's more like a reliable, you
know, receiving element. But that's all.
Sounds pretty bad to me. As a runner, absolutely.
The other thing that I'll say in Blue's defense though, if you
watch his touchdown catch against Texas A&M, it is like
one of the most impressive running back touchdown catches.
You'll you'll never go back. It was like wheel route on the
sideline, like looking like Santonio Holmes in the Super
Bowl. Like the guy's got legit wide
receiver skills. He's just, he's just not a
running back, but he he is a football player.
He's just not a running back. Sounds like a great 12th round
basketball pick, right? That's what we that's what we
want. Yeah, that's cool.
What Jacob and what is and we have a good slide coming up.
I I was going to just about to join the chat to be able to get
Pat's attention to move to the next, but what is the optimal
Dallas offense then? That is your best Med show that.
Is I? I've tried but it was just too
hard. Jacob started doing his own
reversers on Miles Sanders and he's finding some interesting
stuff. What should Dallas?
Use great comments in there. If we could, if we could, you
know, line Dallas up, what would it look like?
What does that mean? Oh my God.
Well, like you have, you have Jaden Blue.
We have these issues, right? What are we?
What do we want? I have to accept their current
depth chart. I can't.
I can't make any trades. No, you can't make any trades.
Can't make any because will they?
Probably not. I would start, well, first of
all, I would have like a + 17 PROEI would start Miles Sanders
I think, and I would give him like 7 carries.
And then I would use Turpin for like a lot of bullshit and I'd
probably give him like two or three jet sweeps.
I think I'd give Blue two or three jet sweeps.
But I would also use him a lot in the receiving game on like
angle routes and screens and stuff.
And then I would stick Devante's fat ass out there on 3rd and
eight. Can he block blue?
No. I mean, that's not a part of it
either, right? He's, I think, I think he can do
it OK 'cause like he played on a lot of third down situations.
I, I don't know if his grades are good, I think they're bad,
but he was trusted in that role. I think he can block OK.
I am now resorting to calling Pat on the phone to get him to
move to the next slide. I'm going to try that here.
Just real. Quick yeah, give me a call.
I would do I would do I think I would say Javante and Javante is
the guy I'm least interested for best ball because he's not good.
But I think if I were running the team, I'd say Javante,
you're out there, you're going to pass block, you're going to
you're going to be Daria Goomba Wale for us.
We we're going to, you know, all the two-minute drill stuff
that'll just be you. And then I'm just like going to
do early down rotations with literally everybody else and see
if we can get someone with some juice.
I don't know who that person would be, but like, I would
probably see what Mafa has. I would see what Sanders is not
good either. Turpin blue lip key.
Like, I will give all these guys the rock and see if we can get
someone someone running hot, hot hand, hot hand theorem.
Also, I would be signing anybody who got cut.
Like I would be scouring the waiver wire and and trying to
bring in some more bodies. I mean, the idea that they kind
of feel like they've like figured out running back is it's
just wrong. Like they they it's funny.
Haven't. Yeah, I don't get it.
All right. Next slide jokes hinted I think
once or twice that. When you're able, When you're
able. Running backs drafted in the
fifth round or earlier with a sub 10th percentile career
dominator rating since 2020. We'll read that again at some
point. Jayden Blue, Roshan Johnson,
Damien Pierce, Snoop Connor, Trey Sermon in a Nuongwu and
Ramondray Stevenson. OK, can.
I know what makes this list. Yeah, a decent comp for for
Jayden Blue. He just ended up being sort of
stuck in a kickoff return role with Minnesota.
Yeah, I was. Talking to I guess I would say,
you know, this slide would make actually a pretty compelling
case that the committee backs, college committee backs.
You know, you can find guys who are actually more talented than
their production would have shown.
Stevenson really popped actually in yards per route run and he
had some really interesting, kind of like per carry numbers
tackle breaker. Pierce was a big time elusive
rating guy, I believe at least he was in Houston.
I'm not 100% sure if he was in college, but that was like his
thing. Yeah, he was like a tackle.
Right there coming out Florida. Sermon was also kind of like,
like shifty, you know, could make guys miss that was like his
his Rep coming out. Yeah, in the NFL, though.
Did not do that in the NFL. And then Roshan had the same
kind of like, oh, you're Bijan's back up now.
He's never really done anything and the pros, but he's, you
know, he's the number 2, I guess.
Like most of the Roshan height was just like you can pass block
and your starter was good so who's to say you're bad?
Right, right. If, yeah.
So I mean this. This would give some hope, I'd
say. If Dallas traded a 2032 seventh
for Damian Pierce and a 2033 seventh, what are we doing with
Damien Pierce? Like he still exists.
He's still in the universe. I would I I would love Damien
Pierce feeling the Cowboys. I think he would immediately
become the best running back. Maybe maybe like 3 years ago.
Pierce, I think he's. Who even though?
What's the difference right? Isn't the difference just the
scheme? Like what?
Like he gets in the, he gets out of the out of the confines of
the zone scheme and all of a sudden.
Maybe, I don't know, you never know, like.
With. With what are they?
What? Has he been doing?
I haven't seen Damian Pierce in a couple of years.
You know he might be in the bedroom.
He looks really good on kick returns, like he had like 100
yard kick return touchdown a while ago all.
Right, I'm sold. Bring him to Dallas.
Just anybody that we've ever liked, that would be enough,
because all they have is running backs we've never liked, OK?
Maybe Bishop Sankey would finally succeed here.
Give him a shot. It's time to find out risers and
fallers or do you want to do the Dolphins Steelers trade first?
Up to you, I think. We should do the Dolphins,
Steelers trade, you know, let's do that.
Pull the news. There you go, Jonnu Smith to
Pittsburgh. It was.
Man, the insiders had a tough time with this one.
First of all, you had the original Adam Schefter tweet
from like a month ago. Pittsburgh is looking to trade
for Jonnu Smith. And then he came back with, no,
they're not, which was weird. And then maybe they still were.
And then yesterday it was Jalen Ramsey to the Steelers, but they
didn't know that weirdly that Minka Fitzpatrick was going back
to Miami. And then Jonnu Smith came later.
So this was a this was a struggle for the guys who get
fed all the information somehow. This is the Steelers slide.
Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf, Jonnu Smith, Pat Fryermuth were either
of you guys. I think no drafting Jonnu Smith
much at all before this. No, I had 2% only.
So I I was fortunate. Yeah, we we went through like a
phase where we were into him a bit, but basically once the
rumors came out that like he could go to Pittsburgh, I cooled
on him. There's sort of this out.
It was a very fragile bet. And so once you start to think
more about the downside of it, I think in the big board I might
have been drafting him is yeah. And the big board I had 10% so
is more open to him there. And then I have 5% in all of my
post draft stuff. So not out, but not, not a big
target, especially like things were kind of headed and, you
know, a scary direction or a scarier direction.
And it's like, man, you kind of need everything to be like it
was last year for it really to pay off.
So it just got harder. It it was a harder and harder
bet to make. And then last week I published
an article on the tight ends and I almost took this part out
where I talked about what if Johnny Smith goes to the
Steelers? So like, it's not going to
happen. It seems like it's blown over.
But I was like, if that were to happen, it would be absolutely
devastating for both Smith and Firemouth.
They more than I realized, really kind of have a similar
type of role where they're like this, this tight end who doesn't
actually play all the time, especially on play action stuff.
And then you have Darnell Washington who's been getting
hype from Arthur Smith, like and he's just this gigantic run
blocking type, the exact type of guy that you would bring in for
like power sets. And so I think out of 12, I'm
not sure we see both guys, you know, like that's that's kind of
the bad part here. I mean, it's certainly in some
12, in some 12 personnel you would see both guys.
They're going to play an amount of 13 personnel that you've
never seen. Yeah, maybe, yeah, it's, it's
not, it's not ideal like, but these guys are I think really
cannibalize each other. I, I think, I think Firemouth
now becomes kind of coal comment ish in terms of when you'd think
about him maybe a little bit better than that, but not much.
And and Smith is kind of down where we had Friarmouth in the
ranks. I, I don't know what it does
fantasy, but I think I think the Bills are interesting to use as
a sort of a, a prototype for where we might be headed a
little bit further this year in the NFL where last year Knox was
on the field a lot, not really doing anything useful in
fantasy. Kincaid, you know, targets per
route run were there, but you know, whether he's a tight end
in your mind or not, he's he's on the field a lot.
And then you had a lineman named Alec Anderson, 1/6 lineman who
would report eligible and be on the field constantly and they
would run the ball constantly. And wouldn't Arthur Smith want
to try to elevate that? So with Pittsburgh not having a
clear wide receiver too, I mean, to put it mildly, I think we see
a lot of all of them. And what it does for us in
fantasy is, I don't know, it's not good.
I think I also. The closest thing you'll get to
what their offense should look like personnel wise, I think
will be the last Arthur Smith Atlanta season.
So you had Drake London was the wide receiver, 1X wide receiver.
They didn't really have any obvious wide receiver 2.
They just kind of rotated in like Van Jefferson, Darrell
Hodge. I, I forget like all the other
dudes that they had there, but it was basically the London
show. And then and then it tight end,
they had Pruitt as like the strict inline run blocking tight
end and they had Jonnu and they had pits.
And generally, like in their run formations, they would either
play in 13 or they would play Pruitt with Jonnu, sometimes
pits. And then they would pass a lot
out of like this quasi 12 where they would have one of Johnny or
Pitt split out and the other would be on the line.
And then they'd have London and they'd have like fan Jeff or
something. So I, I think we'll see a decent
amount of both. I I mean, I think their combined
route share will probably still be like 130.
Ish. 'Cause I think we'll see
Washington as kind of the Pruitt and then Smith and as the Smith
or maybe even Smith is the Piths and Friar Muth is the Smith,
something like that. Because it's a little different.
Like the way he used Smith in Tennessee.
They had they didn't do as much of the 13 stuff they did
sometimes, but they had Brown and they had Corey Davis.
So they they play more than 12 and they would staple Fercser as
the Y and Jonnu is the F. But then in Atlanta, Jonnu was
kind of a hybrid YF. Anyway, it's probably too far in
the weeds. The way I would look at it is
Metcalf's the one and then Jonnu and Firemooth are both going to
probably project between like 50 to 75% routes with with some
level of variance between which one of them gets there.
Yeah, I think I have a pretty. Similar.
Lower. I don't know about that.
I think we could be talking about like 40 to 65 or something
like that, maybe 70 fives. In point for one month.
I think 40 to 65 is too low. I think they're going to vote.
I think their their combined route shares are going to be a
good chunk above 100 because I mean John, John O and Pitts I
think combined for about 120% of routes that year.
And I think it'll be somewhat similar.
We'll see. It's bad though.
I, I, I like with a Darnell Washington there and how much
they want to run. I think I, I just worry about
like there. It reminds me a little bit of
the Ravens last year where you had Charlie Kohler coming in for
like 13 and, and some other heavier stuff like Andrews
wasn't actually playing. They were using Kohler and
likely for some other 12, like 12 with a full back.
They, they didn't tend to play Andrews.
And so it was just like the situation where actually Andrews
and likely were both running fewer routes than we would like.
And I it's like, that's like the Darna Washington, you know, some
comments like he's just out there, he's not doing anything,
you know, yeah, he's like, probably not going to catch a
lot of balls, but he is going to run some routes on play action
that we wish one of these guys would run 'cause they could
actually run a target, but they're not going to be out
there. And then he's probably going to
steal some touchdowns. He only had one touchdown last
year. But we see, you know, some of
these guys who are just, you know, out there, like Foster
Moreau had five touchdowns last year.
You know, he's he's one of these dudes who's just like, yeah,
that that's when you look at last year, Jonny Smith had eight
touchdowns and Firemouth had seven.
That's the part where I'm like, they're not combining for 15
touchdowns, you know, that, that they have now they've, they're
going to cannibalize each other. They're they're competing for
those 7 or 8 touchdowns that, you know, Friarman could have
had access to. So now we're talking about both
guys kind of more like like the Evan Ingram style thing where
you're like, well, I hope you catch a lot of balls 'cause
you're, you're not getting the end zone very often.
That that would be my one of my big concerns with them in
addition to the routes. They did.
They did a 13, the second highest rate in the NFL last
year, 16%. I'm willing to bet that goes up
to like 25 to 30. I think that we'll see a truly
1948 amount of 13 personnel. But overall, I, I, I agree with
Pat. The only difference I have, I'm
looking at Pat's rankings. I see them in front of us right
now. He has Rogers 157, DK 50, Johnny
168, Fry's 199. My only material difference, I
just have the two tight ends a little bit closer together.
I have John, who a little lower than you have him at 175.
I have Friar Booth, a little higher than you have him at 183,
but overall pretty similar. And then I have Metcalf 52.
I have Rogers 165. Jonnu, Jonnu dropping a little
bit on the last, I think some ADP shuffling, but he's down to
170 or we'll be in the next update.
So yeah. Why not just keep Justin Fields
and blow us all away with your running game?
Just why not just do that? But that did not happen.
No. Yeah, they wouldn't commit.
They. Wouldn't commit.
They thought they were better than him.
No, they didn't want to, but how cool would that be if they if
they had with this sort? Of well, they kind of wanted to
they, they wanted to keep him this year, but they wouldn't
keep him with like the promise that he would be the inquestion
starter. Exactly.
They wouldn't commit to their best quarterback option by a
mile. You couldn't, you couldn't look
away if if they had. I mean, it would just be so
interesting. So bottom line is Jonnu Smith of
Buy Now. I don't know.
Well, we'll see where he goes, but not for a long time.
Takes a long time for guys to fall on underdog and I don't
think he's going to get down to where I would consider him.
Maybe never, but certainly not for like a month.
Pete and I timed out on best ball breakfast yesterday on Janu
about 6 picks past ADP and it was the saddest thing that that
happened to me since we timed out and took out the Camara so.
Since Camara, Yeah, right. Since Camara, yeah.
Will we see, will we see Janu Smith in the In the Last Call
streets at some point? You'll see for our move.
I don't know if you'll see Jonny
or not. It wouldn't shock me if you did.
I don't think you will, though, because I think there's some
that there is going to be a narrative that this is Arthur
Smith's guy. You know, he was productive with
him in Tennessee. He played him over Kyle Pitts in
Atlanta, not like fully over, but he was.
We were like, what's happening? Like, why is Jonny Smith getting
run here? This is this is unfortunate.
He was honestly the better fantasy player for for a big
stretch there. So I think that will that you
know, I think everyone probably has a little bit more confidence
in Jonnu in this offense than Firemouth.
That probably keeps him at least, you know, in the one 80s
or whatever. One thing about the Baltimore
Compat is that that team is always ahead.
And I I wonder like if the steel if the Steelers are losing it.
I mean it never happens, but we go into every season thinking
about the possibility that Pittsburgh just falls apart this
year. They've had a couple of seasons
where they what were they last year?
Were they 10 and one or something stupid last year?
Like their their schedule is pretty easy in the top half and
then later it's Buffalo and Baltimore twice and like it it
gets Detroit I think is on there.
So they could be like 7 and two and it wouldn't be that amazing
because of who they play. But if they get down, what do
they do? I mean, that's when you wonder
if it all just sort of blows up. One of the thing I've been doing
the week to week stuff, you know, right in the walkthrough
and, and trying to predict what these teams are going to do.
A big part of what I what I look at is like pass rate of expected
and trying to figure out how these offenses are going to
interact and like what the game plans are going to be.
You know, this team's coming in and Arthur Smith Atlanta team
coming in as a big dog. The other team passes a bunch.
Everyone passes against this defense.
This is the spot. This is where we would finally
see the Falcons open things up and then they like have a -, 10%
password over expected and they play ball control like that.
That is been my history of trying to predict this.
This Arthur Smith offense is just like every single time that
you think there's a setup where they couldn't possibly run the
ball, they run the ball. So I I really.
I would be will not be denied I. I would really be wary of of
betting on circumstance to push the Steelers to the air.
It is very hard to push Arthur Smith to the air and this is
only going to make that tougher. You know that they bring in
another tight end. They can play more bully ball,
you know, they, they can take Calvin Austin, you know, little
baby Calvin Austin off the field.
Roman Wilson can can go back to the the nether, the nether
world, you know. Sticking 13 baby.
It's sticking 13 so. Yeah.
Do you remember that game? I forgot what it was.
It was on like whatever the version of NFL Films is that
exists today. And they were down like 14 in
the third quarter. And, you know, most coaches
would be like, I guess we've got to throw the ball.
And Arthur Smith just starts like stalking up and down the
sideline. He's like, we're going to run
the pith out of the ball. We're going to run the pith out
of this thing. And then they like came out and
they ran on like 8 consecutive plays.
Like his view is like if we're down in the second-half and we
need to get back in the game, that's when we established the
run like that is it's. Like Plan A, Plan B is just Plan
A. Back in the game.
He's been Plan A harder. Yeah, that's right.
What an arrival, Davis. What an arrival I was hoping.
I was hoping we we would still be doing the genre thing because
I, I think I discovered the true tell that, you know, big fantasy
football media is unwilling to actually cover anyone.
Anyone want to guess the total number raw number of snaps
Darnell Washington played last year?
Yeah, I'll take a guess. Go for it.
I'm going to guess 420. 3 not even, not even in the
neighborhood. You're off by 30%.
He played. He played 650 snaps.
Oh my. God, does anyone?
Does anyone want to guess? Does anyone want to guess
Johnny? What are you talking about?
Go look. What?
Go look. 630 snaps. Go look.
I I believe you, I believe you, but I still want to see it with
my own. Eye OK now does anyone want to
guess if you lied? It'd be really funny if I lied.
Does anyone? Does anyone Also 100 and. 82.
Career high seasonal PFF run blocking grade from Jonny Smith.
So he's been in the NFL since 2017.
The best run blocking. 5656. 130th. 505656 is the exact
number anyone anyone want to. Guess the number?
Embarrassing. Like get a life.
OK, does anyone want to guess the number of times Jonnu Smith
dropped? The mic.
Got. Penalized on a run.
Block last year. Got penalized.
What Jonnu Smith get penalized on a run block?
Yes. 11. Six times.
Too good What?
Let me let me check and make sure.
Let me check and make sure I have the yes six times so.
What did you know that like did? You Ed is using the extra 3
hours on the East Coast to just do that much more preparation.
It's really working to his to his benefit.
This is all useless. This isn't gonna help me at all.
Did you know right? No, I just guessed.
OK. All right.
And by the way, in your head, in your head.
No, I don't believe for a second that the first one was a guess.
You. You knew.
No, I listen, I I don't know. I didn't know John is run block
great, but I know that you would you would be surprised how many
tight ends are floating right around that 55 or 56 number,
which is in the in the vicinity of good enough.
It's not like it's not a problem to be there.
It's not impressive, but it's not a problem.
So I I knew, I figured he was in that like.
Yeah, you could do it. Range.
I've got, I've got more. Jonnu is not going to play as
much as people think. He's going to play stuff here.
So First off, 148 snaps out wide for for Jonnu last year.
People like, oh, he's a wide receiver. 148 wide receiver
snaps last year is like nothing for for Johnny Smith.
But really the the more important thing here is I I see
this a lot. God.
They're just going to play him as a wide receiver.
The issue is, is John, who can't run wide receiver routes and
neither can fire. They are.
They are at their best, 5 to 10 yards from line of scrimmage, to
which people say, what are they going to do, play Roman Wilson
and Calvin Austin? To which I say, yes, they
absolutely will because those guys can run real wide receiver
routes. They can run a post, they can
run a 13 yard out. Jonnu and Firemouth are not
agile and quick enough to do that.
Well, Davis, is it fair to ask whether the Steelers know Jonnu
Smith's limitations as well as Pat does, or yourself?
Like, what? What?
What are they doing this for? What are they doing this?
For no, no, I think it's, I think it's pretty clear what
they're doing it for. They are, I think correctly
assessing their wide receivers stink.
So what they're going to do is the whole offense is going to be
built out of like bubble screens and like the worst jet motion
you've ever seen, like Pat Fryermuth and jet motion like
it's going to be. So it's going to be so much, so
many 4 yard throws that your mind is going to explode.
You know who it's, it's kind of secretly bullish for.
It's kind of secretly bullish for Warren because if you're
going to build the whole offense out of RPOS where the P, where
the P is 100% selection rate, I mean, Warren needs to be on the
field more than Caleb Johnson does.
I mean, I'm, I like Warren, so that's right.
That's nice. I think this actually could be
good for Caleb Johnson in the sense they're going to be
running so much heavy personnel stuff that you know.
They're oh, I got another, I got another, I got more, I got more.
Bear statistics highest. Rate stand back.
Highest rate of in the in the last two years, highest rate of
plays with at least but as many as four tight ends on the field.
Wait. What 4 tight ends on the field?
Isn't that four plus tight ends 3 plus tight?
Ends 12/12/12 plus 13 rate. Well, that's 212 is 2.
Right. And then 13 is 3.
So 2 plus tight ends. Correct.
OK, 2 plus, what's the highest rate?
Like you want the team or you want the number?
Number I I actually forget the team.
I looked it up yesterday. It's like, I would say like 52.
50. 4848% it was some it was some shitty team in 2023 it
might have been the Patriots. I I forget I forget who it was.
Point being, this whole they're running 12 as their base.
Arthur Smith's Falcons. Arthur Smith's Falcons were were
super OK now I got to pull it up 12 personnel.
Jacob, are you guys curious what appointment David just came
from? Was it something about the?
Steelers about this I think. He went to his local FedEx and
then they were they. Were just laying out the.
I mean, I think he's not sharing the PowerPoint slide he put
together for that. They have a pamphlet right in
the front when you get to FedEx just explaining how many snaps
Darnell Washington played and how many times they were in 13.
Davis is making all the FedEx employees guest.
By the way, it, it was it, I was at, I was at the dermatologist
where I was at, I'm getting a, I'm getting a, I'm at that age.
I'm at that age you need to start, you need to start going.
The answer It was Arthur Smith's 2023 Falcons. 48% of their plays
had at least two tight ends. Point for Jacob.
Last season the most 12 anyone played was the Raiders because
they have Brock Bowers and they have Michael Mayer.
Then if you add 13 into that you get to the Steelers were pretty
heavy 13 relatively speaking compared to the sense league,
but they actually didn't play as much 12 as you would think.
I I wonder what the reason? I was I was Washington on the
field so much and that didn't compute to that stat.
I assume it's very specific plays, but the Steelers only ran
25% of their plays last year out of 12.
He probably also played over ahead of fire with, you know, at
some points. That's I was going to say that
that's probably part. Of that.
Always in 13 he would play in 12 and then they'd play 11 heavy on
some rundowns. So so the the chat is saying
seems like Arthur wants to run a lot of 12 and I think the brain
has a hard time reasoning these two things.
It's certainly true that Arthur would like to play a lot of 12.
It is certainly not true that playing a ton of 12 is going to
get you the necessary passing statistics that you need to
justify drafting Jonny Smith. But also like to your point,
Darnell Washington and just played 600 snaps, 12 does not
mean necessarily that it's Pat Firemouth and Jonny Smith there.
There's going to be 12 with one of those guys on the bench,
which which is bad. The I will push back on the out
wide routes just real quick. I mean, he did hit 120 routes
out wide. That was second among all tight
ends last year, behind only Kelsey, just ahead of Bowers,
just ahead of La Porta just had a pit.
So he did run a lot of routes out wide.
I, I take your larger point that it's still not that many routes.
And so he's not going to like go play wide receiver for them, but
he can do that about as well as any tight end.
Janu will be a super hit if he scores a Robert Tonyan level of
touchdowns. Janu will be just a total
Jatavian Sanders. Ask anchor on your team if he
scores 3 and if you think he scores 11 you should take him.
And if you think it's more likely he scores 3 you, you
probably shouldn't take him. Where does he settle?
Where does he settle in ADP, you think?
Tight End 18 Him and Kyle Pitts are shaking hands.
OK. OK.
Then I'm out. I'm taking zero at that price.
Yeah, it's too much do. You guys think Miami makes a
next move at tight end? Like yesterday, we had some fun
with Pitts for this. But it doesn't sound like they.
What's confusing to me is that the reporting is that they're
now going to try to. What I don't understand is why
they wouldn't have already determined what that move would
be before they traded Jon U Smith.
Like it seems like they traded Jon U Smith and we're like nice,
great guys. And then someone was like,
should we get another tight end in there?
Good idea. Well, we'll see.
Anyone. Does anyone know a guy?
I don't understand how they weren't like, we're thinking
about trading Jon U Smith. Let's canvas the lead.
Let's find out our options. And then once we come to an
agreement with the Steelers, like it should have been like
one second later they like have the conversation and it's like
now we've we've traded for. Whoever I like that, except
maybe trading Jonnu Smith was how they could have traded Jalen
Ramsey. You know, like me.
If if that had to be sort of together, then maybe we'll get a
second thing. That might have been it.
Yeah. They, they might have just kind
of thrown it in. I I mean, like Michael Mayer
would be very fun. You know, if they could go get
him, Cole Comet would probably make some sense for them to try
to target. I was looking at Dallas Goddard.
They can't really trade Dallas Goddard.
And he got restructured to stay. Yeah, he he they have like 4.
They literally has void years going through 2029 and I think
the the void years hit the 2026 cap all together If if they
trade him now. So I think he's staying not.
Going to trade him contage for 1/3.
You know I mean. Are you ready Shoop?
Are you ready? Are you ready to trade his lava
lamp need for 1/3? Round sick.
Oh, I mean, look, no one's giving 1/3 for that bomb.
He's so blocked here. I mean, why not?
But before we. They need to try to do a block
in Miami. Like that's that's to me why
they why this was a decent move from Miami was to get rid of
Jonnu because he was like part disease and part medicine last
year. Like they couldn't block anyone.
So they had to build the whole plane out of this 5 yard passes
to this F tight end. Part of why they couldn't block
anyone is they're constantly playing this F tight end as Y.
So I I want them to get a tight end and you can block.
I I would like mayor I'd like to Matt.
I'd rather than from Buffalo tight end.
I would rather than trade for. Not yeah.
But not just the third highest player on the team and he's
highest paid player on the off. Yeah, I got, I got more stats
starting. Tight end is now Pharaoh Brown.
For Pharaoh Brown, I won't. Think he's drafted Jacob?
I got more stats, brother. The 2023 Miami Dolphins First in
the NFL in points. Second in the NFL in yards.
First in the NFL in yards per carry.
First in the NFL in net. Adjust yards per attempt to.
Get back. To they're tight end that season
anyone? Anyone want a hazard?
Smythe. 35 receptions, 380 yards, 0 tuds.
Yeah, completely irrelevant to the Mike McDaniel.
Offense and about 12% exposure with for Pat Kerain.
Kerain was taken on drafting specifically.
Truly, truly, for the Mike McDaniel offense to function,
it's it's super relevant, but I wanted to make one more.
Point most are 20 touchdowns or something that you're by the way
like there's there might be that factor because.
They they have, they have a full back that they use.
So he takes a lot of the tight end stuff, yeah.
So that full back, that was a point I wanted to make.
Remember that early in the offseason, it was rumored that
the Pittsburgh Steelers wanted Kyle Spelcheck, that he was
going to be going there. They happened to sign a guy who
I don't know, DJ Thomas Jones, a full back from South Alabama as
an undrafted free agent. If there, if there's a full back
in the mix. With the Jonu, the beat said
they're going to use Jonu as a fullback.
They said they're going to use him partially at the tight end,
partially as a wide receiver and partially as a fullback.
This is bad. This is it's, it's starting to
feel a little Patriots Y you know where It's just like these
dudes are straight up ruining each other's outlooks now with
Henry and Jonu, like it is starting to feel that way.
Aussie. Aussie.
Yeah. Aye, aye, aye.
Yeah. You're invoking the name of
Devon Aussie. Aussie in the Year of our Lord
2029. I am I am you were late and I'm
doing it. That's why Metcalf.
I'd like to get to Metcalf before we expire.
If you know, keep going. If you have more but I want.
To make sure to make a just a comment.
I just really agree with the the point about what the Dolphins
probably need is like a blocking type.
They're they're tight ends like it's like Julian Hill, like I'm
like who? Who are these dudes again?
Yeah, like they if they've been connected to Kyle Pitts, I think
it would make more sense for them to go after Charlie Warner
the the Atlanta, the guy that actually plays tight end for the
Falcons or like the one name. And I I don't want this to
happen because I have a lot of stacks because I think his price
is actually pretty good. But Jake Ferguson is in the last
year of his deal. That's the type of guy where I I
could see because the breven sport breven span forward or
something is is having a a pretty interesting camp.
I wonder if the Cowboys could go.
We're good actually, we we have a dude, maybe we can offload
Ferguson. We're not going to pay him
anyway. And and that could be the
solution. I think that's.
But that would require the Cowboys to be like a front
office that makes moves. Like in my mind, the Cowboys
just having the phone off the hook at all times.
And then it's just like, and never mind, it's like, oh, like,
like they don't ever think a hatch.
So to me, the most likely thing with Jake Ferguson is they'll
just keep him and then they'll walk him right to free agency
and then they'll they'll lose him.
Yeah, yeah. And that would be a.
That would be a tremor. Then then they'll just get the
creature to be like, wait, you want money?
I'm like, no, well, we got Luke Schoenmacher at home.
Julian Hill, by the way, the first ever Campbell University,
which is a HBCU, first ever Campbell University player to
make an NFL roster. It was a it was a high school
quarterback. Julian Hill.
Good. For him.
All right, naming some guys, anybody just.
On a couple of my dynasty roster show that's you know, so that
gives you an indication. Anybody moving Metcalf either
direction? I we really didn't.
We really didn't change anything.
Kept him, I moved him a couple spots down.
But like not it's, it's not a big difference to me because if
you just think about it as a target owner, it's like what
what's really the difference here?
Like John Who and Friar Muth are pretty similar in terms of their
own target opportunities. You're going to have more 12.
So that means more of one of them and less of Calvin Austin.
But it's like that also doesn't really affect Metcalf's target
share all that much. So it's fine they'll.
Probably run even more probably. But when they do pass, it's
yeah, he's like maybe the only receiver on the field sometimes.
So that seems good. Oh dude there's definitely going
to be some 13 where it's just Metcalf.
Just Metcalf. Oh yeah, A lot.
Yeah. Or 22.
You get the full back. I guess.
John is the full back. Darnell and Friar Muth and
Pruitt. Oh my God, is Pruitt on the
team? Yeah, he's on the team.
He's always on the team. He's he's Arthur Smith's, like,
backing band. He can't be.
Oh, no, no, he was last year, but he.
Said no, no, no, no, no dude, it's it's Conor Hayward.
Conor Hayward for sure plays a minimum of 17% of the Steelers
offensive snaps this year. Pruitt was on the Steelers last
year and I assumed that they never would have got rid of him,
but I guess Arthur Smith finally got rid of his Binky, but he had
originally followed him to three separate stops.
Like, it's Arthur Smith has the weirdest collection of players
that he brings around with him. Like he has like Michael Pruitt
and like Van Jefferson. And it's like, why doesn't my
team sound like these really shitty players?
But he is. It is clearly toxic group think
that are. You guys ready for when When
they sign Alan Lazard and it's 13 personnel but DK isn't the
wide receiver they use in? 13 Oh, it's hard, man.
Let's. Let's get ready.
It's 13 personnel with Owl,
Darnell Washington, Pat Friarmuth and Connor Hayward,
and John and Metcalf are over on the phone by just being like.
And Rogers is into it. Oh, I like I I love this idea
that this is going to be like, oh dude, we're going all in.
We made the trade, we tried for John and we trade for Jalen and
like this is actually going to be the worst version of the the
Tomlins. Oh, and the Chad nailed it.
The running back in that 13? Cordell Patterson.
They're going to start six and
two. They're going to start six and
two. Just so you're prepared for all
of this with Lazard or without Lazard.
We've got a dolphin. Slide 2, Let's have a probably
long overdue conversation about Devin HN.
He seems to have slipped through the cracks on I think in our
conversations and in my drafts, if not yours, but the I think
biggest reaction to the trade was we've been sleeping on HN
Pat so. Yeah, Pat is a noted HN hater,
so please start with him. Late 1st, early 2nd, What are we
doing that's a hater? So I was a hater in the big
board, big time hater, thought he's a terrible pick, but he was
going at like the 1-2 turn and I was like, they basically the
only way a Chan will be a really strong pick at the 1-2 turn is
if they draft some bum like Ollie Gordon in the sixth round
and don't address running back. Otherwise, maybe they bring in
Alexander Madison or some totally watched Vet.
And then, I don't know, they like trade Janu Smith to the
Steelers and open up even more gadget targets for a Chan
because that's the only thing that kept him alive last year.
We know they're not going to address the offensive line, so
he just needs to live and feast on a million receptions.
If all of that happens, then he'll be a good pick at the 1-2
turn. And look, look what has
happened. Here we are.
He's a good pick. Maybe not quite the 1-2 turn,
but in that rain early second round, Yeah, I'm in.
I mean, we've been kind of quietly in on HN since the
draft. Not someone I'm like taking a
ton of but but has not been like a a guy that we want to fade.
There's lots of guys there and we take a lot of Bowers.
If you're, if you're using leg up anything, you're going to get
a lot of Bowers. So it makes it harder to take a
Chan, but that's not an A Chan thing.
It's a Bowers thing. I'm currently at at 5% a Chan
Bowers has made it harder to take him.
I think he becomes a better pick here pretty clearly and someone
I I want to be at least even with by the end of the
tournament if not ahead. Bowers HN right?
You can't start with both, or not in that order.
Well, you can. There's nothing stopping you.
But you wouldn't Or would you? Well, but.
Well, I I do. I do.
Crazy stuff like that. Sometimes I don't let ADP
restrict me, but but yeah, you'd be foregoing like Genti.
Basically you'd just be doing like a Bowers Genti team.
But I'm just thinking receivers then, like Mike Evans is.
Your wide receiver 1, something like that, but I mean, I've
done. Yeah, but that's all right.
You know, it was optimal last year, I think, to probably have
Darnell Mooney as your wide receiver 1.
So surely Mike Evans can get it done.
I don't know, it seems a little pejorative.
Pat, would you ever, would you ever start a draft?
HN Bowers can I guess I wouldn't.
Yeah, I wouldn't be. I wouldn't do it right now
because I don't think, you know, I'd rather like, I'd rather go
CMC Bowers through you as you need.
I'd rather go CMC Bowers. But I don't.
You know, whatever. Like I don't think that's crazy
and I think that probably is something we'll see by the end.
So you can get there at receiver this way.
Is what you guys are all saying or both?
Yeah, Yeah, because you can definitely do CMC.
Bowers, I've done that team for sure.
Yeah, yeah. I want Jimmy Bowers.
I've done like. I've done like.
Bijan Bucky. Like a few times I've got a,
I've got a bunch of like. Bijon McBride or Gibbs McBride
or Saquon McBride, you know, so I think you can, yeah, you can
start running back. Running back you can start.
Running you can start non receiver 2.
Rounds, it's fine. I, I really like starting
receiver, receiver as well, but you don't have to.
You don't even have to take one Davis.
Yeah, I mean let. Yourself feel the slap, man, do
a do a little, do a little a chain Bowers do a little.
I mean, you want to you want to talk about a slappy start a
chain Genti brother, You're going to be able to get that at
the turn. Lot of, lot of, lot of what's
going on. Here.
What's going on here? I might.
Be right on that slappy days, I think I.
Think you're on the woods? We're starting.
I worked on me I was excited about.
That well, that that might be the Canadian thing.
You know, a lot of a lot of, I think, I think that's a slappy.
Or it's, well, maybe it's, it's a no, that's funny, that's left
and right. A chain.
Genti is.
A left wing slappy facsimile of a right wing slappy.
Start this. Oh, you know what it is.
It's like when. Fetterman, not Kurt Fetterman.
But when he was, like pretending to care about people and he was
running in like the Senate primary and he was like, he was
doing left wing stuff, but he was doing it in like a hoodie.
Yeah, yeah. You know, like I'm like.
Going to the rural. Town and like I'm the everyman
like that's but he's he's kind of he's like ultimately the.
Kind of right wing really. So you're well, he is now, but
I'm saying like it's like if. You're at the beginning.
I think it's like when there's a settlement in the woods.
And it's like they're starting a new society, but you're like,
the people are kind of there for different reasons, but you're
not, you're not quite sure why everyone's what what the point
of the society is going to ultimately be.
But there's some, there's some some true believers in something
and that, and we're going to figure out what that thing is
later. Speaking of the woods, Davis
wasn't too. Late for the John Who stuff, but
he was too late for Jacob ripping off names of
congressman, not to mention Canadian prime ministers.
That's unfortunate. You know, you can watch that
back. And yeah, you missed the Cowboys
political spectrum, which is. Unfortunate, because you really
would have shined you, were you? Were missing really been in your
wheelhouse, Davis I I may. May or may not have compared.
Jaden Blue to Chuck Schumer, which he he.
Said you would have hated. Yeah, and everyone, everyone
involved. Should be offended by.
That what else? On the Dolphins.
Tyree kill, Jalen, Waddle, even Tua.
Is there anything else movable here?
I mean, I think there's, I think there's an interesting point.
To be made here on Jalen Waddle, which is.
So much of his role being reduced.
Last year was as a result of nothing working in the offense
and this idea the Jalen Waddle needs to pump up the board.
I think I moved him up five spots.
I think I moved him to 50, frankly.
I was always of the. Category that Jonny Smith was a
Gary Barnage that it was just like a very specific
circumstances of things that happened.
So oddly, I think this idea of like, oh, Jalen Waddle is a
fourth round pick now. He goes right next to Jameson
Williams. I I I don't hate it or I don't
like it like I I much preferred the price before because waddle
is such like a roto this style player where if you like chop
and slices not even lower, Sean hates waddle.
Sean said he would consider drafting Jalen Waddle once
Luther Borden is off the board. I love Sean man.
What a what? AI mean not to be fair.
Sean probably has Luther Burden ranked 30th, so like he used to
take Luther Burden. In the fourth, it was literally
like him and Gretsch were doing this thing.
And Gretsch was like, he's like, you know, he's like, I'm not
sure about Waddle. I think I'm a little low on him.
And then Siegel's like, well, we just got Burden in the 12th.
And I think after he's gone, maybe that's where I'd start
considering Waddle. And it's like this is the
perfect seagull. That is, that is pretty good.
But what's the problem? Like I think the.
I think the the clear thing with Waddle is that he can succeed if
everything is kind of humming in the offense but a chain and
hill. Also this idea that Tyree kill
should be in any way impacted by the presence of Jonny Smith is
very funny. Like like either he's Tyree kill
or he's not either his wrist is fine and his knee feels fine.
Waddle though I I do agree with this idea that Waddle is not the
category of player who can be impacted by other guys on the
field with him. Like Jonny Smith is like a fine
target earning tight end to some degree and that can impact
Waddle. Daigle had this tweet yesterday,
111 plays with Jonnu off the field and Reek Waddle and a
chain on the field. All of them had a target share
north of 22% on those 111 passing place, which is like,
yeah, that is that is basically what you would anticipate.
I do think there's. Something with.
What like what Jonnu? Jonnu exiting the offense is
opening up some screen targets and, and design stuff.
And and I think that that actually does help Waddle and
Tyreke a little. Like it's it's marginal, but I
think it's it's nice that there is this guy who he led all tight
ends with 22 screen targets last year.
McBride was at 18, then crafted 14 and then and then a bunch of
dudes kind of, you know, around like 10.
So he got a bunch of screen targets, much more than you
would expect for the typical tight end.
Devon 8 Chan LED all players with 40.
So you have this gimmicky screen based design, designed look type
of offense, which we're all familiar with from watching the
Dolphins last year. Pulling out one of the guys who
was involved there is probably good for Tyreke and Waddle.
You know, if they get another 5 screens each, like that's cool
right now, it's not like it doesn't change the fundamental
bet, but I think it's still like somewhat helpful.
My my thing with Waddle is like the Tyreke stuff.
And I and Jacob, I liked your article about how Tyreke's kind
of a better managed pick because you get this boom bust that
that's still fairly expensive. And you know, if he's not the
dude, it really blows up teams in best ball where you're trying
to just stack a bunch of wins. But like.
Tyreek did have this insanely efficient season 2 years ago and
he was above 3 yards per hour in 2022 as well, which is also a
Miami season. So we have two seasons of him
posting outrageous efficiency and dusting Waddle in the
process. And then he drops to 1.75 last
year. But Waddle also fell off last
year in a big way. And, and, and that's a part I
feel like he gets a pass. He fell from 2.52 to 1.53.
No, he's he played bad. Like worse than the.
Other guys played bad, yeah. So like I, I.
Think he can? He tends to get a pass.
It's like, well, Waddle's young you, you know, he's 26 and turns
27 in November. Hill's old so his drop off means
that he fell off potentially that that he's now dust.
But Waddle would be would be the type of guy you'd expect to
bounce back. To me, the story of last year
was the offense wasn't performing the way they wanted.
They went to a Chan and Janu is kind of this this dual engine of
of gimmicky stuff. And Waddle was hurt by that even
more than Tyreek and wasn't able to step up during, during a
Tyreek potential fall off year. So I don't know, I mean, we
moved him up as well, but I'm, I'm kind of hoping frankly that
Waddle ends up going in like the mid 4th and I don't have to
think about him that much again because I wasn't, I wasn't
really out on Waddle, I feel like.
I'm like the only guy in like my like circle of people that has
been like in on waddle. Although no I'm I'm I've had
waddle ahead of ADP. This whole time.
Oh, OK, good. There we go.
Maybe it's just like from doing the DFS show with you last year.
Well, you couldn't help yourself last year.
And and you just like constantly were like just.
Begging me like each week, like please stop losing money on Jill
and Waddle, please. And I didn't listen and that was
to my detriment. Look at you today.
What's this? Look at you 2 today just.
Like, you know. I know we're getting there's
alarms today. I mean, I guess we should get
along on Jill and. Waddle because he's fast so so
you only player who runs A42 the Jacob Blitz.
But. It's true.
I, so I will say like I was way more into Waddle, like in the
big board, but he was going in the 6th and it was like he was
going like right next to a lava. He's come up a lot since then.
And so he's become less of a priority.
Like I'm overweight, but not by much.
I'm like a Davis Maddock 10% right now on Waddle.
And yeah, I, I moved him up as well, but I suspect the market
will do the same if he gets into the range again.
Like I'm really concerned he's going to start going ahead of
like Kittle Hertz because to me that's such a red line where
like that's kind of like a a full teardrop where I'm like,
are you someone I'm willing to take ahead of kHz or not?
I don't think I am willing to take Jill and Waddle ahead of
that. Like I could if I had to, I
could take him ahead of DK and Smith.
Unless you've started Dijon and McBride.
And then you'll do, then you'll do it for sure, for sure.
But yeah, I and I, I will, I will concede that like I've been
out on hill, but I I totally acknowledge like the one part of
my argument that does not really hold up the scrutiny is the fact
that like not even as much how? Would Waddle be good?
Now it's more like it doesn't make any.
My argument for Waddle is that it doesn't make any sense that
he just stopped being good at age 26 like after after being
like a a high target earner, high efficiency player for for
all the rest of his career previously.
And so if you then think that maybe Tyree kill became bad, it
doesn't explain why Waddle was also bad in the same way.
That's that's my. Yeah, it's.
Points to something going on offense wide.
Like and also from like possible predicting it every week that's
what was happening. Like we we were like we lived
that experience. Like we know that it was like
predictable, like they're gonna throw a shit load.
They have to throw this week, but it will all be to a Chan and
Janu. And then it then it would
because they they had to get the ball out quick, so they couldn't
protect Tua. I think there's an.
Element to where waddle was. Just like never like.
Help like he just. Had such a disjointed season
last year, like he was hurt like 7 times and Tua was hurt and I
felt like they just never had a chance to like, and then Hill
was kind of bad. I, I don't know, I just think it
was kind of a thing where they just never had a chance to like
get their sea legs under them as an offense.
They were so far behind in the playoff picture when Tua came
back and they kind of found something that was working ish
and it was like it was almost like an addiction like it was
like you, you like know that this isn't good for you, but one
day you'll figure it out and you'll you'll like wean yourself
off. But in the meantime, like you
just need another hit. And they just needed another hit
of John who screen passes and it was like we don't know if pills
wash. We don't know if waddle's going
to sprain his ankle seven times in the same game.
We're just going to throw to John who and HN and hope to
squeeze into the playoffs. And that was kind of how I
perceived it. And then, well, I agree with
that. Like it's because.
The the thing they did know is that their offensive line sucks
and the quarterback cannot take yes, yeah.
So I don't know. We'll see what happens.
This year, but I'm I moved Hill up a lot actually.
Like I moved him up. I had him behind all three of
the elite quarterbacks, which was basically just telling
anyone using my rankings we don't take Tyree kill.
And now I have been arranged that is still behind ADP, but in
a range where it's at least plausible you could get some
Tyree kill. So now you will actually see his
name when you're drafting. Is what you're saying at this
point now his name work here I'm more open minded.
Because I think that they. His floor goes up like I agree
with what Davis said, where it's like is he Tyree killer?
Is he not that that's a big part of it, but they they now, I
think an A announced an intention and are also now
reliant on not running the same bullshit that they did last
year. Like they the plan at this point
clearly has to be to use Tyree kill and waddle more like they
did in 2022 and 2023 and they did in 2024.
We'll we'll see if one or both of them are up to it, but that I
think plan I, I think macro it's.
Mike McDaniels ride or die here. Like, is he?
Is he, what's his next job? Is he a head coach somewhere?
Or is he an offensive coordinator again?
Offensive coordinator of the San Francisco 40.
Niners. So San Francisco 49ers.
I'm going. Like Texas?
A&M head coach, Texas A&M No. No.
When when this ends in Miami,
it's not going to be good. He's he's the slot wide
receiver. Of Davis, Maddox, coaches team I
I could, I could see him. Being offensive assistant for,
you know, the 49ers like, you know, yeah, no, the the Shanahan
coach slash. Consultant.
Assistant to the head coach. Yeah, Assistant.
To the. Head coach at that thing, one
thing I don't he. Even design wrinkles.
If he's just designing. Wrinkles.
It's the good wrinkles. I I'm just saying I'd love to
have him as OC. He's going to.
Do his thing this year and. Then he'll be gone or not if he
succeeds. One thing I don't agree with
Davis saying earlier, though, is when Davis referred to big
fantasy football media as if. I mean, who's what?
What is if? If you're not it, what is big
fantasy football media? Actually, there are, Mike.
There are channels. You've never heard of that have
200,000 YouTube subscribers. I, I'm not even, I'm not even
like if you were, if you were viewing it as the inner circle,
like I'm not even in the ring of Saturn, brother.
I'm I'm basically Infowars for fantasy football.
We got it out of them that that's like, what?
Was your meeting. What was your meeting today,
Liberal? Liberal.
Liberal.
OK, you pop, that's not how you open jar of Pickles risers.
All right, you haven't got your risers.
Yet no, no, we started with. The you know.
Davis I just compared. I compared Jane Blue.
To Donovan Edwards, the Infowars of fantasy football, You.
Think we're going to be disciplined?
What the risers? I think.
I am good. JK Dobbins.
Is on this list 'cause I think he's now approaching
equilibrium. I think he's now basically being
drafted where it's like sometimes you can just pass on
him and be like, this team doesn't need the JK Dobbins
profile like in the one 40s. I think you were just clicking
him like I now I'm at the point where I'm like, Oh well, some
This team might need a guerrendo.
This team might need a Ray Davis.
This team might need a a Jaden Blue.
I know it's an unpopular opinion here.
Spears on this channel Blue's interest.
I think he's got. A role to play Can we?
Can we be done with? With ETN though, like what are
like, who's doing this? This is what I need to know.
I thought he would start going down.
He had that quote. Where where the beat was like I
guess I'll get a shot, but like I don't know.
And then and I thought I thought I was going to get the chance to
be like pro ETN as he felt, but apparently he's still rising.
So I don't know. Here are the names Dobbins,
Kittle, ETN. Devante Adams, Dante Thornton,
Jawan Jennings. I'll take credit for Thornton,
Jawan Jennings, Dylan Sampson, Josh Downs, and Mecca Buca,
which is interesting to me. I'm not sure I understand that
one, but it's a Josh Downs is getting the Infowars.
Bomb for sure, yeah. Downs is my, Downs is my number.
One owned receiver 26. Yeah, I love downs.
I think I have the same. Percentage on that one.
We asked last week, why isn't he moving up?
Why? Isn't he on this list and now he
is M MB F is correct that. Once Brian Robinson Junior goes
off the board, people just start panicking.
And if you are not a scataboo or or Tracy drafter, ETN feels like
a life jacket. That's the one I don't
understand. Why is Scataboo?
Going down because all rookies. Are going down.
Is that but is. That based on anything.
I I wonder if people saw what he looked.
Like and were just like there's no chance there's no chance that
this guy. Honestly, I think I.
I think him not knowing what who who Calvin Johnson was was and
and when I say that he he they was shown a picture.
Amanraj St. Brown on his podcast showed him
a picture of Calvin Johnson like, like just the guy, like
not, you know, wouldn't with his helmet off.
And he was like, and he didn't know who it was.
But then then they showed a picture of I think it was Marcus
Colston. And I was like, is that?
Is that? Michael, that is that Michael
Thompson, who was that? Like, I had the same thing.
I think it's just you don't see these guys when Calvin Johnson
was at his peak, this dude was like probably like 12 years old.
He can't he can't pick his face out of a lineup.
So what? It's fine, but I think that hurt
his ADPI think we're like, oh, this guy's an idiot.
He doesn't watch football. You don't see their faces that
often. You don't.
He was familiar. With Megatron, he was like, oh,
is that Megatron? Oh shit, OK.
Jennings makes sense, I think. There's sort of a Niners buzz
overall. Well, it's it's a bet.
It's also bearish reports on Iuke that is driving that as
well. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah. Those reports are not great.
Sakura just pointed out that there was some mystery ailment
for Scataboo where they asked about in in.
Incorrect. Incorrect.
It was not an ailment. It was the same thing that's
happening with a bunch of the second round picks.
It was contract language. He's not.
He's not heard. He's not heard.
OK. Is that going to be?
Is that going to be a bigger? Problem than it is by the way, 2
second round picks are signed already that's I mean I I
frankly think that Shamar. Might be like he, I have a
feeling he really might just be like, I'm not playing dude.
You guys don't do this for me. I'm I'm not.
I'm not playing first round. Yeah.
Well, and the. Bengals then they'll have like 1
fewer sack. Than they would have had so.
But it's a, it's a lot of guys that we.
Care about it's burden. I mean it's it's juggins.
Wait, wait, wait, wait. Have you guys just seen the?
News I have breaking news, it's not Infowars.
Breaking news, The real breaking news, the Miami Dolphins got
their tight end. They have signed Darren Waller
out of retirement. No shot, dude.
No shot that is going to take so much money for me.
Tom Palisero. The Dolphins are finalizing a
trade with the Giants for the rights to Pro Bowl tight end
Darren Waller, who's coming out of retirement to play for Miami.
Oh my God. Do you have any idea how much
money this is? Going to cost me.
Do you have any idea? How psyched that the the random
guy is who's been drafting Darren Waller and he's about to
post his screenshot to to X. Why don't you ask him?
It's Davis. Matt, there's, you know, there's
someone with like 20. 8% Waller How do you how do you?
Like Jacob coming with this and not the Victor Arbitson trade.
I mean, that is that is good stuff from from Jacob.
All right. Where are we going to draft
Darren Waller? Let's see.
Look right now, right? Look, here we go.
My. 1st I have one, I knew it that's going up.
My my first instinct is. That Waller should immediately
go ahead of Isaiah, Likely. Oh my God, no.
Oh my. God, I think.
I think not. Let's.
Look up Darren. Let's let's look.
The last time, the last time we saw Darren.
Waller, he was giving an interview on a podcast where he
was like talking about how we had to block like RB punch three
times in a drive in Buffalo, and he was like, I don't want to do
this anymore. Then he quit football, Davis
remembers. Two years ago we did best ball
together and but Darren Waller was like the key man.
What was that like round four in those drafts?
We just had to have Darren Waller.
That's 2. Is that two years ago?
Only two years ago, Yeah, he. Turns 33 in September.
September 13th. So yeah, this is his age 33
season. Two years ago he was at 1.55
yards per outrun, 1.58 the year before in Vegas.
So he fell off. He had this run where he was
like in the mid twos for a while.
He drops to 1.7, falls off again to the one point fives.
But one point fives is kind of like where a lot of tight ends
live. So if if you were to do that in
Miami, I mean, shit, we're going to be drafting some Darren
Waller as long as he's cheap, as long as he's.
Cheap. This is going to be the best.
Ertzgerald Season. Ever.
This is an ertzgerald. Yeah.
I mean, if he's anywhere. Near like I would take him
around ertz draft him right around Zach Ertz.
Right around Zach Ertz yeah. I would take him over Jonnu and
Fryerman. You know what, I'm going to go
add him into my. Rankings right now and it's
going to be irresponsible. Is anybody helping anything?
Or it might be Or it might be appropriate to draft Darren
Waller. I would say like 1-1, the one
70s. Ish I think would be my first
the Titan you the. Titans you were picking?
In that range anyway are going to be terrible.
You can at least squint and see Darren Waller having the Earth
Gerald season. Would you rather have Darren
Waller or Kate Auten? Darren Waller Me too.
I think I'm. Darren Waller too.
Oh, that's. Kate Auten doesn't even exist.
I I actually think. I might not have Kate Auten
ranked. Come on, what's the point?
He's been productive. When he's gotten an opportunity
after yes, after every other play, he runs all the.
Routes Tampa Bay Buccaneers all. Right, making sure that Aaron
Waller. OK, Darren Waller.
Does have. A player ID, Yeah.
Can you? Can you put that in the chat?
Just so that I could enter it and my ranking's easier.
Yes, I will. DFS, Miami, Indianapolis.
Jacobs Colts week one Oh yeah, we're doing a Darren Waller
stack for. Sure.
I can't wait to do the Daniel Jones, Josh Downs, Darren
Waller. All right, here's the line,
Mason. Taylor I have at 184 in my
ranks. I I think that's right about the
line. OK.
Hunter Henry is at 177 in my ranks.
That's Henry for me. OK.
That's a tough one, but. I think I'm going, Henry.
I'm going, I'm going 170. 8 for Waller.
OK, so I have. I have Henry at 163.
I have Strange right behind him. I would take Strange over
Waller. Me too.
I wouldn't. But then it's then I have, I
have ertz at 172 is the next tight end.
And I think I would take Waller. Maybe I wouldn't take him over
ertz because ertz is basically what we're hoping Waller is.
I have ertz at 166 and. And Otten at 167.
And I have ertz then I have Nick.
Chad, I'm going to put him. Right behind ertz right ahead of
Nick Chen. You can't.
Take sanat if I take. Ertz.
True. Seek Benz.
Oh yeah, you seek Benz. I do.
That's that's. You're a brave man, that's one
word for it. Braver than me, that's for sure.
Well, this. Is this is big?
We were here for it. Darren Waller to Miami the This
is the most. Useful ADP chasing is maybe ever
been breaking news, Real news. I like that I had Jake Ferguson.
Gets traded and about. I was accused of Galaxy
braining. Imagine if I had said they're
going to sign all the time. They would have been the biggest
Galaxy brain. Ridiculous take.
And yet that's what they did. Maybe they did have this lined
up you were talking about. They need the the backup lined
up. Maybe they always were talking
to Waller. No, that's that's, I mean,
that's clearly. What happened, right?
Part of why they did it is because they had back chant,
like they were talking to Jaron Waller's, I don't know, I guess
his rap agent. And they were like, see,
interested. I was like, Ash, do they have to
trade for him? Yeah, well, because he was still
under. Contract with the.
Giants they had to trade for his rights.
Now. Now there's also.
Someone who took There's also someone who took Michael Mayer
like 6 times in a draft yesterday.
Someone, someone who's Oh yeah, there's a mayor guy yesterday.
So no, the same guy. He's the Waller guy.
Actually, he's. Just someone, someone someone
has 22%. Of Nick Westbrook, a keen and
they are just punching air right now.
Yeah, that's tough. Or Kyle Pitts the Malik.
Was. Down.
Real. Bad.
No, I think. By the way, I think Malik was.
Sorry, Gretch. I didn't know what's going after
Gretch. Yeah, it was exciting to think.
About Pitts in Miami for a minute, yeah.
Because his being trained is. Believable they.
Had to train a sixth round. Pick.
That's like a lot. That's bullish for.
This wall that I might. Have.
Waller Oh, but they they got a 7th back so.
They traded a twenty, 26th, 6th for Waller and a 7th.
So basically. Nothing that was a little bit
like my. Cowboys idea earlier, only five
years more recent, but yeah, that's what that's what we do
now. We trade a A player and a
seventh for 1/6 Joe. Joe says he took Julian Hill.
Yesterday. Well, it was worth a shot.
I mean that you did that to yourself.
No one. Told you to do that.
Best ball? Literally no one told you that.
I don't think anyone. Ranked Julie.
No. Big fantasy football media did
not. Advise it whatever that no big
fantasy football media is moving Jalen.
Waddle yeah, Miles Turner boxes Well.
And they waved. Damian.
Lillard. That's crazy.
To not be able to trade like the
Nets wouldn't take him, yeah. All right, so much happening.
Fallers. Oh, we got an NWI.
Is still a good click. Yeah, there's, there's an NWI.
Hive maybe in last call. If he's not taken already.
Fallers guys we have 5 names. Joe Burrow.
Obvious last call pick. Getting first pick today.
Me, I always go first. No, I.
Mean it's me. I think we should.
Do it as a random number generator.
We need a random. Yeah, we need.
We do. We do.
OK, I will do AI. Will random.org but do
random.org for us? I got someone else in.
Mind anyway, so don't worry about me.
Fallers, Joe Burrow, Jack Bash, Jaden Blue We talked about Ayuk
was mentioned and then Marvin Mims.
Burrow is has been interesting all season.
Why? Why is Jack Bash in a polo?
Shirt Everybody else well here. Jacob, can you think of one
reason? Yeah, I can.
Him being a polo. He's so outrageous.
I have a polo with AT shirt underneath.
Like this guy is about to like go sell a car.
My Gosling is about to like reshape.
His life so that he can get with.
Marissa Tomei or whoever that is, it's not about to play
football. That's for.
Sure, Davis, you're on mute, but I'm sure you're saying
something. You're on muted, Davis.
You're muted, I think. You unplugged your mic maybe?
Yeah, you're still muted. It was tough because I saw the
twinkle in his eye. I could tell the Yeah, no, I
know. No, my mic is we.
Got you. No, no.
No, you just. You said your mic was on and
then proceeded to turn it back off and now you're on mute.
Again. Now you're on mute again.
It's still on mute. You're on mute.
Going up, I'm going up the Airpods because you.
Guys are. Dave.
Davis. Davis right there was.
Was was represent? It was a metaphor for Jack
Besch's year One role. You know the last Raiders.
Wide receiver that. Everyone widely mocked a photo
of his appearance. Wide receiver 900 Renfro the
photo of him holding the grapes. Everyone laughed and laughed and
laughed. They laughed.
And you know what he did? Put up cold hard fantasy stats.
They also made fun of Bowers. They also made fun of Bowers I'm
starting. To sense a trend, I'm starting
to sense a trend of an undervalued asset for the Las
Vegas Raiders they've identified you better change first.
I mean Jacob. Jacob actually had the most.
Bullish Jack Bash tweet, which is that Bash is the first wide
receiver drafted in the top the in the first two rounds since
going past wide receiver 60. If if you're not blindly buying
at this price, I I'm I'm starting to, I'm starting to
get. Intrigued by by bash I am I'm
I'm starting to take more of them than I was for sure that
that we're all just sitting in that you're a show go I don't
know. Oh show.
Sitting backstage, I'm. Out here, I'm, I'm back here
shouting. The name Hunter Renfro for the
last it's it's a. It's a blank screen for me.
You got me. Or no, I can't hear a word shop
saying. Can you guys Jacob Davis?
I can hear, I can hear. You something weird's happening
with my stuff. The last thing I heard this is
not our. Most technically proficient.
Episode Davis is muting himself. I can't.
Hear Shop. It's it's no good now.
Shop's gone. All right.
Shop's. Gone, did we?
Do everything. Oh, last call.
All right. Do you have the random number
generator? Davis is mute again.
I'll, I'll, I can pull this up. I'll go to.
Wheelname.com OK, here we go. I'm not muted, I'm just on the.
Wrong input now. OK. 1.
SEC got to be the. Command.
As I only have, I have. Here we go.
All right. I got it.
I just got to share the window. Here we go.
You got me. Last call are.
We there, Yeah, just just got. To.
Share my thing, Pat. Yeah, hang on.
Just to prove it. I'm looking for.
Players to pick. I'll get mine out of the way if
you. Want to fight for whoever it is?
Well, you're on. You're on the wheel.
There we go, all. Right, all right.
Let's go. Wheel of Names, the best.
Come on Dave. Magic.
Baby what it's. Great baby.
It's great, baby. Thank you, Wheel.
Of names I'd like to thank, like to thank my good friends at
Wheel of Names applauding. Keep applauding.
All right, I will. I will select Darren Waller,
tight end Miami Dolphins. It's a good big easy game.
I'm. Tilting.
I'm tilting so. Hard.
Jacob, there should be some some.
NHL draft, There should be some conversation you have with
Waller, like some real super 10 out of 10.
Awkward conversation like the NHL draft had where it's like
the four or five executives on in a remote location at their
facility and then the player talking to each other.
I mean, just as stiff as it gets Horrible.
He's got a blood, a Jacob hat. He's got to put on a Jacob.
Hat we don't. Have Darren Waller today, sadly,
but we'll work on that. Yeah, this is going.
To be just continues to This is now the third player that was
not on a team. Actually the fourth player that
was not on a team at the time of the NFL draft that now has a
team. It'll be 5 when Amari Cooper
eventually signs. So I I would say he fits in best
on my team. Really, this is a good group for
him. He's the.
Youngest player on your team? If I just take a quick look,
he's definitely he brings the age.
Down for sure, yes. All right, do we keep spinning
or just pass it around? At this point I can't have my
guy so just assume if shove's. Talking.
I have no idea what's been said. Wow, I get that a lot, but not.
From you usually, Pat, I can hear you.
That's I can hear you. Shove.
I can't. Hear.
You do you need us? To Davis is on mute for you.
Davis is on mute. Maybe.
I don't know. I can only hear you.
It's I'm not I'm. Not on mute.
I'm not on mute, all right? All my stuff is working.
Over here something. Is going wrong where you guys
are at? But I so I really needed Waller
because I am down that at the tight end position so that is
extra tilting. I was going to try and connect
the dots here with. Michael Mayer I was going to
take. I was going to take Michael
Mayer, but that does not work now.
But I have a an exception that proves the rule.
This he he really shouldn't have a 200 AVP.
But I'm going to take Juwan Johnson.
I'm going to do the the Tyler Shuck, Juwan Johnson stack.
I've got got Milro and Arroyo. I've got Shuck and Juwan Johnson
reuniting them like they were, you know?
College roommates. So they are, they are now.
They're now back together in the in the room with for me.
I'll go ahead and take. Kyle Manungi who?
Who might who? Might be the RB2IN Chicago.
Ultimately, it's possible could happen, and assuming you.
Guys, at least one. Of you can hear me, Yeah.
And you guys should have been I can hear you show.
I can hear you. I'll take Kareem Hunt.
Yeah, I can. I'm going.
To reload Kareem. Hunt Kareem Hunt is a really
good one. Kareem Hunt is is just.
Obviously that's a good thing, yeah.
I continue my. Role on last call, OK.
All right. Before we all blow up here from
whatever is going on with the technology, it is Canada Day,
Jacob. You've got beach plans, NHL free
agency tracking plans. It's going to be exciting.
Yeah. I'm just hoping the Leafs can
get under. Bargain winger.
You know I want to thank Mitch Marner for for his nine years
with the Toronto Maple Leafs. Sat it and ended poorly.
Glad we got something for ya. I'm going to believe this, but
now you. Can hit Jacob and and showbiz
good. Oh my God, Pat.
It's a Pat problem. It's definitely a PAT problem
in. The show this is this is.
Definitely on pat this. Is clearly.
I mean it's. It's decided Jacob didn't ask me
who my favorite. Curlers were, which was, you
know, unfortunate for me. Dunstone has passed Botcher for
me. And of course, Rachel.
Oh nice. Nobody can can beat.
Rachel. What's work like for you guys
this week, July 4th on Friday? Can somebody, oh Pat can hear me
now? What are the plans for the
holiday and for the for the website leg up?
My parents are going to be visiting.
For the 4th and I've got a friend coming down, one of my
high school buddies, so we're going to be doing some stuff,
you know, in New York, just enjoying enjoying the 4th.
Have some babysitting lined up with with the parents in town,
which it's always nice. Lucky you.
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Davis so. You said the other day you'd be
late today. I knew it was Canada Day.
Jacob last week suggested maybe he wouldn't be around.
I threw out in the, in the discord, you know, do we take a
week off? And Davis, much to his credit,
said we're too close to the season, which is awesome.
The Hall of Fame game is July 31st.
Today is July 1st. So are you feeling it, Davis?
I mean, can you feel the, the, the ball in the air?
Yeah, dude, you have. You have.
I believe 65 days left to draft enough teams to change your life
like you're, you're the clock is already ticking.
Like if you are not ahead of the curve right now, you are behind
the curve. So yeah, I, I think, I think
we're we're way too close to the start of the season.
And and look what we manifested. Cho, you you saying let's skip
the show? Got Jon Smith traded and got
Darren Waller traded from the minutes.
Yeah, minutes later. Minutes later I I just put it
out there, you know, maybe you guys wanted a break but wasn't
for, Davis said. Davis said we were too close.
To the season during last season's conference title game.
To be fair. What do we need to know about
your schedule this week? Swirl cast.
Directly after this then we are doing I'm streaming with Nick
Zilac from Fantasy football advice at 2:00 PM Eastern Time,
streaming with Liam tomorrow, streaming with Mr. Fantasy Flock
on Thursday. Then on Friday we have got the
the the member team review show. So if you're a member of the
Davis Maddock YouTube channel, submit your teams elite or
delete and we're saying your team's good, your team's bad.
Pretty fun. But yes, as Chad says, he can't
believe how close the season is. If you're not drafting, you
don't care enough about your future, so be drafting more
nice. What is going on?
Gotta jam. This in just wait for.
You 6 times have been dropped off just for a second.
Pat, today is Bulldog's 60th birthday, so I'm the Odyssey,
all right at at WGR. Happy birthday, Bulldog.
What's going on with this show? Everyone said it was me but this
dude's dropping off every 10 seconds.
Can't even wish bulldog happy birthday.
Happy birthday bulldog happy birthday to the bulldog end the.
Show see you next week. Happy 4th.
Happy. Canada Day, Good to see you
guys, all right. Happy 4th.