Alright guys, we are here to celebrate something.
I didn't think would ever happen this year and that's Ronald
Jones scoring a fucking touchdown.
Pat. What I mean?
I mean I don't want to bury the lead here.
He'd Ronald Jones scored a touchdown.
I mean would you run pure you run your.
My God unbelievable, Man daily Road, you know, you love to see
it. I do.
I did your mentioned, your mentions had two rival.
Like when you won best Ball Mania, three windrow, just
scored. Like it has to be pretty close.
It was close. It was honestly, close.
Did you, did you roll some of that?
Money and just translates. You know, I didn't, I took the
day off from football. But what what a what a cherry on
top to see? Ronald Jones score.
That was delightful. Yeah.
Number two back. We, as everyone knows that.
We were just talking before we went live.
How like, still bizarre and surreal.
This is, you know, pausing this stream on Monday night and then
picking it back up here for the first time in, just thinking how
much has transpired since then the emotional rollercoaster of
that. So I don't know, pad I had
Definitely want to give you the floor, obviously, massive,
massive. Congratulations for officially
winning best Ball Mania, 32 million dollars, got a raise,
some glasses here. But Pat, everyone wants to know,
how have you been feeling? What is this, what is this week
been like, yeah, thanks guys. And it was horrible and Monday,
right? Let's just like, with the Mars
health and everything. Like, it's not exactly something
I was. I mean, it's like one of these
things were finally, by the time, Thursday rolls around, we
start to get good reports on tomorrow's Health.
Those, those were coming out, like, almost simultaneously with
the idea that maybe this game when it resumed.
And so, that's when you're starting to feel like, okay.
I can, you know, maybe start to think about what this means in a
real way, a little bit more. But then also like I I feel like
figure out like an accountant and stuff, so they were like,
there's this, there's this like, period where I didn't have any
real idea of like, what was going to happen.
But I was in first place at the, you know, at the time of the end
of the game. So I was like I need to plant
almost like contingency plan for what happens if I win and like
get some stuff setup and Brittany's, like don't get ahead
of yourself, I'm like I'm not getting ahead of myself.
I'm like trying to figure out like to make sure things kind of
can hit the ground, running it, try not to be by right.
You've turned out to be behind you.
Yeah, so yeah. I mean it was like this
obviously was an insane week for everybody so you know, I was
just part of that and I obviously feel for every one of
the bills and bangles because like, I'd be gutted if I was in
that situation. So I was just like one of these,
you know, just insane. The whole thing is just like, so
unbelievable and unlikely, so I don't know.
It was, it was just a lot of feelings.
Sean was the first person bring up that side of it to me and I
was like, me and that we've been on that side of it.
Sweat where it doesn't break your way.
But like, if you're on a sweat where you didn't get to see your
players play like that sucks, but of course, and even hadn't
even thought about it, because we were all pulling for you so
much. I mean, it obviously the more
tomorrow. Hamlin think that overshadowed
everything right away, right? But and importantly so but It
was, yeah, it's a good point. I mean, there's a lot of people
that had built and bangles that, then you get to see their guys
play at the end, which is its while the whole thing is, yeah,
and I know there are a lot of people in the ship chasing
Community. Christy here, I know our guy, a
see, some guys that had chance at some pretty big scores with
Bangles Bill stop and like, it was it, you know, just a bit
right? Like we talked all offseason
about that bills, Bengals game. A lot of people stacked it up.
Lot of people had teams that made it there and so like you
said, I mean, I think that to me is really the theme of all these
This app just like so many conflicting emotions and also
like there was no you know with the NFL right there trying to
come up with an equitable way to handle the playoff seeding and
the implications of this. And like the truth is both for
the fantasy operators. All this like there just is no
Equitable way to do this. Like I think you just have to
acknowledge that. There's no perfectly Fair
solution and we can say it like it stinks that some people were
on the wrong side of it, for sure.
But we're here to celebrate that it is.
I wasn't it like the most touchdown passes between two
quarterbacks in the regular season or something like that?
Like, it was everything it shaped up to be going into the
game to ever, ever meet each other.
In a regular season game. I think it was something like
that. Sounds, right?
I don't remember. I'm repeating spent heard
secondhand so that might not be exactly on it.
What is like the It's on the ground like now I know you don't
leave your house or what is what sitwell was the atmosphere like
in Buffalo this week especially as new started to Trend in a
positive direction. Yeah, I went to the gym Tuesday
morning and it was there's not that many people at the gym.
I go to is just basically me and the guy that I work out with and
You know, it's it was a very mellow Vibe like everyone's, you
know, you feel a little bit more, being your team.
I know everyone who's in NFL fan felt it, but you feel a little
bit more, being your area, someone that you've routed for.
And it, you know, it's terrible thing to happen to anyone, but
you start seeing, like, all the stuff that Hammonds done, the
type of person he was, you know, it's just made it that much more
gut-wrenching for me, you know, it was definitely a tough week
to, like you, no 1/100 of what Pat was going through.
But like sweating for him, wanting him to win but also
trying to be objective or how things can handle trying to deal
with the emotions of everything going on.
But watching the Alan McDermott, I watch like the 35 minute press
conference. They had on That was it, was it
Wednesday night or Thursday night when the new started being
positive and goes Thursday. Maybe.
Yeah. Yeah.
And you could see the relief on their face, and I was kind of
like, all right, if they feel relieved, like it's okay for me
to feel relieved was sort of my thought.
And then the next day, Hamlin was talking to the team, and it
really seemed very, very positive.
I know he's still technically an in critical condition, but
everything seems to be going the right.
Right way and you know, thank goodness, the medical
responders. There were yeah, trained well,
and got the ability to identify what's happening in real-time
with such an outlier situation. Is just insane to me that you
can do that, like, not only knowing what to do, but being
able to just immediately see something that you, you know,
just never have seen before in actuality.
So yeah, watching that press conference.
So I think helped for me, turn the vibe of the week a little
bit that was like for me Wait, because I was writing it up in
the Fantasy Life newsletter and like, Wednesday at a pretty
heavy Post in there and then was it or sorry Thursday, I did and
then Friday, when you had the shots of the Bills players at
practice smiling and thumbs up because to me that's always
where my head went to his. Like, how did these guys
mentally get to a place where they feel comfortable playing
when this just happened in front of them.
And when you see those guys smiling and, you know, the
positive reports hearing from Hamlin's dad hearing from Hamlin
and once they're like, all right, let's fucking go.
That was like, alright, this This feels so, so much better
than it did at the start of the week.
Yeah, and we got the report that he had asked, you know, who won
the game that came out. Like, I think the bills must
have known that before. We knew that it may be that,
that was kind of some of the stuff that the optimism and
stuff that was shining through, perhaps, I don't know.
But yeah. Just to get, like all of that
positive news on Thursday was and then to get more, you know,
we've continued to get, you know, positive news kind of
flowing in since then, it's just been massive.
Yeah. And then, of course, Friday, on
the back of that really The news getting the official
determination on the contest was huge.
And you know, the site's did what they had to do.
Which is just like you said, there's no Equitable thing.
And I think when there's no Equitable thing you just have to
go with the what's most objective?
That's right. They did happen.
Yeah you know it's clearly spelled out of their terms and
everything like it was one thing if the game was going to get
played again but obviously when we write the final news of the
game, was officially not going to be played it you know sort of
pretty Clear, what was going to happen, Pat?
You said, like, before we came on, we talk about it.
I was saying it's crazy, to be honest with you, for the first
time since you've won and you guys were all pointing out like
and we were just on Monday for this last.
You were talking about this. Yeah, it's been five days and
you were just saying before we came on, like you, it feels like
it's been a really long time. You feel like you're about to
get really sick like I'm sure you've been through a lot.
Okay. Yeah.
My mind, I'm pretty sure I'm gonna be horribly sick.
Next, we got feeling like that the sore throat thing.
I think Pat's probably slept. Then I have, I'm sure passed
away. Yeah, don't the one day of hats.
Like, I thought the best thing to do is get eight hours of
sleep or like. Yeah, that was smart.
And then like a day or two later pants, like, I slept one hour
last night. It was, I was able to sleep the
first. Like, what happened was, like, I
couldn't fall asleep in that I was able to sleep in and then
like progressively, I stopped being able to sleep in as well.
So like by I think it was Wednesday night, maybe that I
just like didn't get any sleep. I mean I got a couple hours but
it was like rough. I'm sure Murphy got walk buddy.
This Murphy got a lot of there's a lot of one-on-one time with
Murphy outside a lot walking around playing fetch so he was
he was having a good time. Yeah.
So Pat lots of people want to know.
I think you would maybe it was in the Discord you reference
that. Don't forget remember where but
that you hadn't told your parents up until it was
official. Tell us about some of the
conversations both with Brittany your family like when all the
dust settled on this. Yeah.
So Brittany was looped in but yeah, you know I think she I was
kind of saying, like the game, the game is not going to be
played, you know, we got some reports, you know, Chef Drew and
stuff before his official I was like it's it's looking unlikely
where I think she needed to look convincing you know like really
but my talk to my dad. I talked to my dad after the AP
report and it was kind of funny because I like told him he was
psyched and everything, of course.
But then like he like had been trying to catch up with me for a
couple days and I hadn't really Responded.
I'd like text him or somebody didn't trying to get me on the
phone and I like, you know, obviously he was trying to delay
it and he like, we kind of had the same conversation.
We would have had like, he's like telling me about his
Sunday, what was going on? Like, after we had the full
conversation about, you know, BBM 3.
But then he was like, yeah. So, anyway, so it was nice, A
lot. It was kind of, it was kind of
delightful just out like a totally normal tag to the, to
the regular conversation, I did have to fully convinced my mom
should, I don't think so. Believe me until the follow-up
conversation yesterday. But I mean, the one thing that's
crazy is It's a lot of money for 2 million, I mean, obviously the
tax in New York City. Yeah, yeah, I know York City.
It turned out pretty serious about their taxation.
It's kind of like, even at half of its gone, which, you know,
sucks. Obviously, but even if half of
its gone, you've got a million. You know that's that's that's
stop. Like, that's their, you know
what I mean? Like, yeah.
That's what I kept saying. I was like a millions of Lot of
money, that's nice. But you take taxes away and all
of that and then you have like 2 billion is a lot of fucking you
get the clean. We kind of, like, did you have?
Um, Brittany gone out for a nice dinner with this know, what did
he do? They blew the play dead before
the snap. He ran up and knocked away the
long snap, before the whole could get it.
I've never seen anything like it, tipped away.
Dipped roll the logs know anything.
Yeah. What where you guys went out for
a nice dinner? You said, yeah, we want got some
sushi and stuff. It's like I wasn't quite
Omakase, but it was basically kind of that style So at the bar
got a bunch of good sushi stuff yesterday.
Yeah I'm also friends today. People are wondering has the
money officially hit your Underdog account.
Yes Underdog is good for it. As it turns out is your is your
bank account equipped to handle a two million dollar wire.
I called them and then they like gave me instructions for I think
but I think the instructions how to send a wire and I'm like me
to call them back. Like no I'm wait.
I'm receiving as an investor and underdog.
Kind of would prefer that you just kind of keep that money on
the site. Maybe.
Max. The whole.
That's got it, dude. Wealth, wealthfront 3.8%.
You gotta start churning that money immediately.
Get that. Get that interest monthly
immediately. Yeah.
What kind of those taxes 0.01% at a time?
I guess I should. So Pat, what has been the most
like common questions that you get.
I'm sure you've got, like, w people had wanted to see the
team W. We want to know that.
The date, you drafted it on. Lots of people want to know, why
the fucking guy who says he never takes running backs.
Took two running backs. What are the other questions
you've gotten in the wake of this?
Yeah. Like why don't you know what?
The July 18th one, when I drafted.
It's pretty interesting because that's the same date.
Is the guy who won the regular season million?
Yeah, she's Capital unbelievable.
And someone said Liam was around that time last year, too.
I think he was right around that time as well.
Yeah, that's so insane. Is there a reason for it?
Well, it's probably cuz the barbell Bros are out of the way.
Yeah. Farvel brossart drastic.
You've literally the middle of the summer.
Yeah. I've just dropped when I was
Barbara Pros so I can selves into can't be drunk.
Can't be drafted. Yeah.
Liam was with June 15th or 16th. Okay.
Should really do something next year on that date?
I know, right. It will legitimately get For
sure, they will make money that they would not have made it.
They promote that Nash. I've only seen people saying
everyone's calling in sick that day to Max their BBM entries.
Well, the holiday it's also a great day in the calendar to get
people into it that haven't been into it yet like July 18th of
the day to start. Like, that's probably maybe,
that's why. Maybe there's a lot of fish
starting on July 18th, you know. Well, I went back and watched
one of our streams. Well, like, okay, so George
kid'll started, National tight ends day and the Got some
traction. I mean, I feel like it's kind of
a no-brainer here, 400. Yeah.
Are you gonna who does tight end you?
Are you going to start best Ball Mania?
You Pat, you pray, against you? Why everyone out there?
Right up through some drone. Hit the button, but it is really
cool in the Oni shared. I think on Twitter, the screen
grabs to of like showing that exactly what that Was that you
drafted? Like you had written about it.
In some capacity, you had written about the two running
backs of the top that you thought were candidates for
legendary upside. You had recommended specifically
messing around with three punt are be built on two or sorry.
QV Builds on too early running back starts.
Oh yeah, what, where was your head space?
And I know you even told us that you went back and we're watching
even the ship chasing stream. Like right before the day, you
drafted that to kind of see like where your head space was at.
I was curious where my head was at.
Yeah. And it was the, it was the
string with Hassan and It was like hilarious stream to
re-watch. I mean, it was it was there's a
ton. It was it was the stack that
bitch Upstream. It was the lamb.
Was it? The limb her?
The deckard's? I hurt lands.
Yeah, deckard's. A was right.
It was during Scott fish bowl. So we were bringing on his son
to talk about Scott fish bowl. It was just a, it was actually
very fun re-watch. Although I did tell willful or
pretty hot pretty hard in that one so that one wasn't too fun
to watch, but, but yeah, eyes. Yes, why Like I remember you
around that time saying the only reason to draft during that time
was to take Rob Gronkowski why is Rob Gronkowski not on this
rock. Well, there's a lot of people
that aren't so. This is the only taekwon
Thornton team that I drafted. All summer is the only my god,
Vicki team that I drafted all summer.
And I think the thing that Leone was our that you were talking
about that Leonid referenced on Twitter with the experimenting
with three quarterback build. So I wrote that article that
came out I think a couple weeks later or the first part of its
early August but I I started. So I published it.
I published it like skill positions and then the second
part was quarterbacks, but I had originally gotten into it
thinking about the quarterback strategy and I like basically
through the research I was like, I need to write about everything
first and then I'll get the XXXX later.
But I was like, I'm nearly certain that it was like you
know me experimenting with this idea of there seems to be a
pocket of running back value, kind of in the early
double-digit rounds, but maybe that pocket, you know, you don't
need that pocket as much if you spent so much capital on,
running back with an RBI. Restart and instead maybe you
can use that capital on quarterback.
Chauncey was talked about the quarterback window.
A lot of the research that I did basically confirmed what he'd
already found which is that there's this kind of the end of
The Upside, quarterbacks that happens roughly around like
around 13, 14 ish. And so if you're if you don't
need that running back value that's kind of in that pocket.
Then why don't you take a third quarterback?
And then the other thing that's interesting about the team and
about that strategy in general, I think, is that it allows you
to get more stacks on to the team.
So I had to Neal Jones. I had say Quan, I want L to
their had one Dale. Yeah, I had I had to, I had
waddle, I had moster I had Michelle who's on the Dolphins
at the time and then I had to Patriots coming back and I had
get sticky and that's why I had those guys is because I was is
it got me on an additional stack that build?
So it's definitely an interesting structure that I
want to mess around with more for sure, for sure.
Yeah, also interesting, like, I know, I said a couple times and
specific, you know, Specifically, two tournaments
that I was really on the elite quarterbacks because I was like
structurally over the course of a season.
I don't know if it's necessarily like this crazy Edge, but in the
playoff weeks, You know, you might be, you know, if you've
got three quarterbacks like Daniel Jones to and Tom Brady
maybe you get like 25 but you're not matching 37.
And then Pat decides to take two quarterbacks that score 37 up,
really close to was doing it all year and then two is out of the
other to do it. That's a while.
But yeah, it's your point. You make sure you got the
quarterbacks. Like there was definitely I do
dimes want late but like there was a point where I was like,
dude you fucking talking about people taking like, Matt Ryan
and back? Jones.
I like those guys. Yeah, cannot score. 36, right?
Like, I mean, and that was a big part of the research that I did.
Was that, like, you do want, guys, with upside?
Like, and I think the quarterback Market has gotten
very efficient, so you look at the types of guys that are in
the early double-digit rounds and it tends to be pocket
pastors or rushers who were like really worried about like Fields
was. There probably were overly
worried about him but Pat do you remember like I remember about
my favorite Basketball Mania team.
You know I notoriously don't Sweat until late in the season.
I think it was around week 13. When I first started looking at
the one team that I was like, this could make some noise, do
you remember ever looking at this team and being like oh this
is interesting or was this one? Just like out of sight, out of
mind on the back burner. You weren't pre sweating.
This one completely out of sight out of mind.
This one, this was like if in a second and it's League it.
There I had another three, quarterback team that was making
noise. And I like when I think like
this made the finals, I was like, oh, Sweet.
It's that Rogers team. Let me check it out.
I was like no it's not the Rogers team.
It's a different three quarterback team.
So I like wasn't really like I kept having like memorize who
was on the team in final like it was not I had and I had teams
that I was kind of sweating like I had one that was a zero
running back team. I think it had Mahomes
definitely am a homes and it had Pollard and Ramon and know it
didn't have from Andre have Pollard in a bunch of other.
It was a fun team. I was like this teams like so
fun. I can't you know so Sighs.
I hope it gets through, it's funny.
You Leone brought up how the two different quarterbacks,
literally, well, I was thinking back to sort of some of the
sweating chats that we were having in our little chat
throughout the day on Sunday and some of the updates Pat was
given us. And for whatever reason I mean
I've thought a lot about Pat more about path made my own kids
this week, just like just like there's a lot going on here.
But throughout the day and And as you Rose the leaderboard, it
was on the back of Daniel Jones. We were like super pumped.
Yeah. Sometimes yeah, watching TV and
then a second, rushing TD, and then ultimately, he wasn't even
your cute be but he was the one that escalated you up into like
right there and then and then Eckler, obviously, in the
afternoon games, the one that pushed you to First that long TD
run was the big moment, but Daniel Jones was was really
Rising you up to her, like, this hasn't shot.
This is live and then he didn't even become your quarterback,
and then we were tilting it, you know, when elevator killing all
these. Because no one had Brady and a
lot of people actually did have dimes.
We were like, in the article, I wrote about how kind of rare it
was for like these quarter of these later, quarterbacks to
have spiked weeks. And I was like, I don't even
know if it's worth chasing because even if you get one,
it's not it's their Spike. We start usually as powerful as
the elite guys and it's possible that you might end up with two
guys. And you don't even use the spike
week that you got, which is exactly what happened to me.
Although I will know very much Giants, very eyes, but the end
of Jones. Got me through this team
wouldn't Advance without Out getting through and awesomo had
an article out over the summer specifically saying.
And this is one of the things that got my gears turning on
this stuff, is that specifically saying like, you know, you could
Advance a low on stack if you go three, quarterbacks and that's,
that's also exactly happened. Yeah.
What do you think about that? Article is awesome.
Oh, told me that he wrote that the year before and it just got
no attention and he just republished it over there also
Leone. That's Dear to your heart.
Because last year in the FPC, basketball finals.
You had a team that got there because of one week from Ben
Roethlisberger who I believe you Auto drafted on act.
Yeah, yeah. And I really didn't do it and he
yeah, Italy. Only one thing about that too is
because like, people look at Pat's team and I've seen some of
the comments like on Twitter and elsewhere in there.
Like, how did this team get there?
How did this team win? It didn't have a lot of the
quintessential League winners. And as a Epp contrarian, bro.
Myself, I could never wrap my head around this as a cash game
King, but there's a huge advantage to waking up in these
finals with players that the field does not have.
Yeah, so that was one of the nuttiest things, you know, there
are things I like and don't like about the underdog format, but
it is definitely, I think fun for contestants Like Pat, who
can squeak in, without the week. Winner and so Justin Jefferson
goes Morty, 1% own. Yeah, 41.
Yes, 41%. I think.
That like 41 percent owned with like no salary cap.
So that's also really reduce the Eckler teats which ended up
mattering a lot for him because right up, right?
Yeah that's what I was getting at is you couldn't have both and
so Pat had a you know it's like double leverage, your fading
Jefferson and you have this guy that people don't have also
arguably at a position where you want it because little bit more
volatility generally at wide receiver kind of nuts that you
had Jacoby. Myers and Thornton scores in
your lineup and, you know, kind of kind of a Down game and you
got three really good scores in that lineup.
But then, there is also the team in second was an ET R sub which
you entries. I was telling you guys in our
disc or chat but he had something similar where he like
road mile Sanders like all year long and then he had Jerick
McKinnon cam Akers and one other back that went off the right
three weeks. So it is Old.
And I think that's why part of the reason to Pat, like you did
a bunch of teams that were well-structured and with
correlation and if you can kind of marry those two together like
that, that's the way to do it. Obviously you need to run pure
but There's something about the uniqueness in week, 17, that you
can't have control over other than just getting smart teams in
that are more likely to survive missing Jefferson for a single
week or something. Yeah, I mean you need like like
I had identified beforehand that my my chance of winning this
thing was Tom Brady to Chris garden with DJ more coming back
and the reason I said that is because the all three pieces
were loaned and I had some chalk, I'd kill chalk, I feel
like it's almost impossible. Will not have chalk, right?
If you get into week. Yeah, you need a man, some
chalk. You need some chalk.
So, I had had some chalk say Quan was chalk.
That was the other thing, right? Say Kwan was chakram, Andre was
chalk and Kettle was shocked. And those guys get old was in my
final lineup. It didn't have a huge game and
to get Ramon, Dre and Sake. One having quiet games and then
a killer who was the direct leverage off Jefferson there,
weren't a ton of him because of Jefferson getting so many teams
in and then To get a moster week, hit my line up, which was
going to be super low on. I mean, I don't know, like, you
just like, what are the chances of that, like, the chalk, like
all the chalk that I needed to get their failed?
And then all the contrarian pieces that I had, replace that?
Yeah, perfect way. I mean, you got I mean, it's run
how to run hotter than the sun is is the less that you kind of
have to, right? But the weight, the way that you
put yourself in the position to do, that is to build a lot of
intelligent teams. Always you guys are just talking
about make a lot of Smart Plus EV Beth.
The thing that I love about this team is, it is so you as an
analyst where you're, you're like a true grinder, you always
have been and you're stacking edges.
I mean, you've been doing this for a long time.
I remember, when I started doing ship chasing, we had some
conversations about what we wanted and what we're like, what
our goals were, the three of us, talk a little bit after some
streams, it was in 2020. And one of the things that I
said to you guys, I'm going together, Of this.
But I was like, I would like Pat to get a little more like credit
for how good of an analyst. Yes, because at the time you
were doing, ETR, you're doing establish the edge with Leone,
but we were talking I think we're talking about, like,
Twitter followers. I was coming off.
CBS, I had some false Pete gets, you know, Pete's, Pete.
So everyone knows P but you had been doing it since 26 2015. 20
14. Why don't you start a run of his
like 2014 or something? Yeah, 2013 or 2014.
I'm yeah. And you're still it was 2020 and
you had like, you didn't have 10K.
Those on Twitter and you've been doing great content forever,
you're a TT are just doing it. Like, working really
intelligently to get better building Smart TV bets all the
way across the board. And then I mean, obviously since
then you've had, I mean, what a glow up, your at NBC.
Now you've got the worksheet, which is the best freaking in
season article. That's our tree bars worksheet,
do the walkthrough. I'm drinking.
The wonder they both start with that.
Jonathan came up with that baby. And now your two million dollar
champion and best ball, which is just absolutely incredible.
But like, I just, I don't know. I, this lineup is accumulation
of you making smart bets grinding every Edge.
You can, you guys talked about how you wrote about these exact
things, knowing what to look at and how to look at it, getting
better throughout a whole bunch of years doing that when you had
fewer than 10,000 followers, still doing it when you're at
NBC and crushing, I'm It's just like the coolest freaking thing
like you. There's not a more deserving
winner of this and I don't know, I just I just want to say that.
So let's give let's give Pete some shopping for the week 17.
I was all that matters video because I've yeah you look at
this roster like I'm clearly in the week 17 is all that matters
mindset. I've got I'm correlating,
George, kittel, and Hunter Renfro.
You know I'm doing I'm having these are these are hot beer and
pour La plag this week by the way, too early.
Every artist has might as well be Zach ertz and Tyler algier.
I mean I was going to the max on this day.
I think that honestly, I think that was probably the best piece
of content of the entire year and it made this team.
I wouldn't have left this team of that it at.
Well, I just love the, you know, I remember last year, when fine
for and I had our team and it's really fun when some intentional
decisions you make, because I'll be the first to admit you draft
150 of these. Some of these, you're in robot
mode. Some of these, you fall into
your comfort zone. You know, it's really fun when
you can. See the Fingerprints of
intentionality like on the draft in this thing is riddled with
pats, Fingerprints of intentionality, which I just
think is very cool. It's like the perfect blueprint
for what you want to be as a fancy.
Unless anyone who's watching the show like we're trying to teach
you a whole bunch of little things that we think matter but
we're also trying to figure it all out at the same time too.
But you do it and yeah like it takes some luck and we're
talking about how he ran hotter than the Sun and all those
things but you do it and you repeat it and best balls.
The perfect place to do it as many times as you can.
Like Pat said, he wasn't even really following this.
It look like the greatest team. You build a lot of Smart Plus EV
bets. You stack.
All of the things that you can stack.
You put yourself in a position like this, like, that's awesome.
I mean, looking to seem to like I know people are pointing out
Kyle pits. Like I know I was I know I was
devastated. I'm I know.
I was yeah, you know, like this is It's just fine.
I guess, I'll take fucking DJ more here and then I got yelling
water on the fourth, like I probably should have taken.
Swaddle not more. I got you know, so well and it
is super fun too, because you can look at these early picks,
like you let the draft come to you.
And then, basically, after pick five, I'm going to guess that.
Once you have DJ more, you start thinking about the box and weeks
at Sea, when you start, adding God likes, like you lay the
foundation with those first five picks, probably just letting the
draft come to you and then you're kicking into how can I
structure and build off of those first five things?
I did also shot out early drafting, Chris God, At 66.
Hell yeah. I know there's a lot of that
mean. We're monitoring the 10th.
I do think that the, maybe not even early drafting I think we
need to maybe, like, extend what early drafting means because
like this was before training camp still, but I feel like, you
know what, there's a few few badges in here.
So it's not like it was. This is interesting because Sky
more a Garret Wilson died. If you end up taking Tyler
Lockett in the middle of the night in lockup, really played a
pretty big role on at least, you know, getting you there.
You said you Yeah. Continually not a guy, you can a
lot of either, right? You didn't know, I had no
Cameron values. The boys.
That's the only play you talked about that all offseason.
How big of a gap lock-in and Metcalf had it?
It shouldn't be. And you're right.
Remember where I was at Walmart and I would you have gone Rogue
on the 10th of available. I mean, you know, I wouldn't
know, I just, I don't think I would have over am Andre but,
you know, I can't say for sure, I'm sure I'm sure.
I'm sure I took him over from Andre at some points in earlier
in the summer but I did have a kind of had a sit-down with
myself about Ronald Jones around this time, maybe even before
where I was like I'm not getting other guys I want and Rashad
white Garrett Wilson. I think you got sniped on Jones,
isn't that coming back? It's coming back.
So you so I really, I really don't know if I would have taken
Road Joe here, but, you know, that's such a good point.
I want you to Almost restate that or I'm just going to jump
in and do it because it's what I do sometimes like a dick that
point that the guy that you're taking too much of is preventing
you from taking other guys, there's so many people that need
to hear that I needed to hear that a few years ago.
It's something I focus on to that's such a good point because
it feels good to take that guy. But then I was like, I'm, I was
like and also a Leone. I should actually find when you
Leone in the in our chat. You were kind of making a case
against Ronald Jones, which turned out to be a.
Thank you for as always. The voice of reason.
Yeah, thank you very well received at the time.
It wasn't. But it was a good case.
And I was like, I probably need to think about this shut up
Leone and then I'm gonna change what I do like diversifying
though, to when we talk about the randomness of the playoff
weeks, especially like you could be all in in, like, let's say
Josh Jacobs. Like, I'm not saying you
wouldn't want to be all in Josh Jacobs, he had the year that he
had, but when you add in the randomness of Of the tournament
weeks. Like, it's hard to be super
concentrated on one guy who just like might have the wrong week
at the wrong time, even if he was like a little bit of a
better pick than someone else, like objectively over the course
of the season and I feel like I'm sure other people relate to
this, right? When you have your players, you
like and say the players you're taking some kind of stand on the
Trap is, is you have the devil in the angel on your shoulder
and the angels, like, hey maybe you should diversify maybe mix
it up like you're not as confident or the probabilities
of this guy hitting The others isn't that great and then you
have the devil on your shoulder that says, but what if I just
need to get the right combinations?
Around him. And I don't already have that
combo, should probably just take fucking Kyle pits at to thank
you. That's what I always struggled
with throughout the summer. The week, 17 stuff to we've
talked about this a lot internally in some ways.
Aside from like the correlation benefits, it just helps you get
diversification to those guys. Like Pat said, it's only his
only Thornton's share Jacoby and Meyers another one of those
boring values that like, you probably just not waive.
Another time I was and I was in on the lockets in the Myers.
Like, you know, you guys know I love draft in Zach, ertz last
year for free. I drafted a bunch of Tyler
higbee this year for free. Like I actually there's a point
where I kind of do enjoy the, like, the legally, the Leone
gross olds. It's Just later than Leone does.
Which is like any round will do but uh, no.
I just I just, I don't know walk it was was pretty cheap and then
Myers was very, very cheap. Yeah, and that's not a verse by.
This is a total tangent. Have you got approached by
anyone for the pat? Crane two million dollars story?
Any I mean some big newspaper needs to write about.
I mean the intersection of Hamlin in this as Like this is
but this is obviously crazy. Did you say Pat, the Fantasyland
producers approach you about the fancy life.
Producers have been part. Ya Fantasy Land.
I've been I've been in a lot of contact with the producers of
Fantasyland. Ya fantasy douche came out of
the woodwork just said to annecy dude.
Yeah I need you to know I'm back.
I'm in no way he did. Yeah good.
He said he was looking for a 1 million dollar loan.
Oh, that's great. Yeah, yeah.
Go ahead. Oh, I did want to say to the
point about the weeks in 19. Thank because Eric Eric and Rob
were on the spike week Channel I guess.
Before the before the game on Monday, they were talking about
Mike Evans and like that was one of the guys that took a stand
against and they were basically saying like, you know, we like
Mike Evans always could have done.
We'd like, no one was really arguing that he couldn't have a
gigantic, massive Spike week in week 17, and right, he certainly
did but I was relieved, when I went and found this Because I it
ended up being a Brady stack. I was so relieved that I would
have had to take him in the first round to get him here.
It's because I would have if he was there over, I would have I
would there's no way there's no way.
I would have taken him over Berkeley.
Well, and that's, that's where the mindfuck stuff comes in with
the pods in the advancement and like running very hot with that.
Stuff is like the opportunity cost of having Mike Evans on
your team is probably so great for getting a team all the way
to the Miles with him after so many Duds.
Like it is really such a tight needle to thread with some of
those guys who underperform with early draft Capital.
Yeah. And you survived a wide receiver
who was 100% owned. You know, in terms of drafts,
you survived him out scouring every other receiver by 14
points on a week, which goes, as, you know, didn't get there,
you know, was not enough lineups to and restarting his on some
teams, but it was so low that you were able to survive it,
right? Chris mentioned, I probably
would have advanced Evans and it's a different build.
You know, the whole build changes.
I don't do three quarterback thing so you're probably not
taking Daniel Jones at that point.
You're not taking one, they'll rot like everything just changes
which is like a good again, the way of thinking about your
drafts of like every single pick you make dictates and should a
form subsequent picks. Like I was, I was messing around
in the offseason where I was like, I think you could Auto
draft, the first three to four picks and then wake up in the
fourth round and say, now, let me build a logic.
Whole team based off of what I've started.
Yeah, well, there's your boot camp at.
There's your boot camp right there.
It's a great boot camp because you say, literally do nothing.
But let the computer draft for you for a while.
And then you have to think about structure and you have to think
about, yeah. What do I need with this?
You have to, you have to answer questions and my husband
players, you don't actually like, but you have to think
about. Well yeah, I've stopped Rings.
I'll go ahead. When they'll guide you, can you
bring up? Well, I would just say bone
side. Talking about taking Godwin as
your At wide receiver. I mean, part of that sat in a
society when you start with two running backs but also God.
When is the exact kind of guy you take, when you're behind the
eight ball with wide receivers because you're saying here?
Yeah. Can I get buoyed by this other
production through the first six, seven weeks?
But then I have a guy who could perform like a top three, round
brick down the stretch. You're actually trying to beef
up your wide receivers and find some of those Arbitrage values
cheap. Yeah.
And with the rbr, we start part of it is like you're gonna
you're going to be scoring points out of the gate pretty
easily. So yeah I completely agree with
that. Can we do some streams next
year? Where we auto-draft the first 4
rounds? Okay, I really want to do this,
I do sometimes. Yeah, I want to watch and see if
you still want to do it after a couple of rough ends up on the
team especially with our audience.
Yeah, I've sometimes thought about like, you know, I know I
can't do this so I don't. Know that I'll ever be able to
do this, like as I can't code this or whatever, but I think
would be interesting to like, assign probabilities to, you
know, kind of what you think. Like, the odds of, you know, you
know like projections with like probabilities or something and
then kind of dim them. So you go in this draft, the
Broncos are terrible or in this draft, like whatever it
basically spits out, like in this draft, you know, the you
just absolutely have to have the Colts or whatever, like, they're
going to be. That they're the team that just
kind of Rises up and what I like they're all values or something.
I would just, I don't know if you're interested to see, maybe
that wouldn't lead you to get teams or whatever but I
sometimes want sometimes, mentally, I want to drop that
way of like, in this draft I'm just like going to make a bet
that you know, this this team is kind of going to be the team
even if it's not something I always think well you're kind of
doing that implicitly to and I think back to one of the moves
that like Eric and I did on our team last year where it's like
we had an early pick We passed on Dalvin cook to take the
bonfire Adams early. And then we also took Alexander
Madison to further leverage that bet.
Like even the picture not making, you're actually making
decisions like you're saying with the SIM or the reality of
how that season plays out in. You win like the absence of pics
is actually just as important. Probably is the picture making.
Yeah, for sure. And the Justin Jefferson thing
and then also necklace that like that first round, flip is like
sort of another example, that type of thing.
Yeah. Yeah.
Um Leone. I'm gonna let you get going
here. Someone asked earlier the chat.
What we were referencing about. You sweating this game tonight.
Do you want to let people do what you're gonna go with?
I mean, it's very trivial All Things Considered but I did I
saw the number. It's not trivial, it's not true.
That's trivial whole relative to pass accomplishment, but I am
sweating the Tennessee Titans. Futures that I thought was a
really sharp that and as I put in our Discord chat, the fact
that they've lost six in a row and Alive.
Maybe it was a good valid because, yeah, I bad back
because they lost fixing around. You'll let I'll let you guys
decide. But awesome accomplishment, man.
I mean, really soaked it up like Asian coming up.
It's probably be good to like it'll be hard by they probably
be good to disconnect a little bit and and let it all soak in.
So congratulations. I just it's it's insane.
It's an awesome accomplishment. Thanks buddy.
Thanks Leone. Good luck to your tightens.
The rest of this game, I was just gonna say that.
Thank goodness. They found this Josh Dobbs
character 20 days ago and it's not only clothes.
Yeah, you'd be dead in the water with Malik Willis their
shout-out Leone. We are going to have another
special guest joining us here soon.
You know, like the Miami Dolphins who you know, pop
champagne for as long as they are.
The only, you know, undefeated champions in the NFL, we might
have a former best call Mania Champ here, ready to
ceremoniously hand, the crown over to you that I can't wait
for that moment. This is a get incredible cover
by or it's a vag to be correlated with the kitchen for
real money. Ha ha ha.
All right, well, we gotta put some Wagers on this.
How long until Liam mentions, his DK hits on the street, is it
over under five? Well, 20, I think you may have
seen you say that now. So this is how it goes.
It's a minute, the the over-under. 60 seconds and it's
shoehorned in with a complement to bat.
So like congratulations to Pat winning two million.
You know, there's maybe a lot of pressure on you to follow up but
as someone who actually won 300,000 are drafting this year,
it's actually very doable. I think it's welcome to the
show. What's going on everybody?
And I've been watching, you know, I heard some been slander
on the as I close the YouTube and I'm To choose to forgive
that and move past it, you know, 2023 new year, new me.
I thought you would already probably closed it, you know,
try to get it behind your back. No, congrats Pat, man, this is
unreal. You know, could not have chosen
a better Champion. I do want to say, I had a bit
plan, but patch to high class and want to celebrate the win, I
was going to have a crown. I'm going to take off the crown,
I was going to pass it through the stream, Pat was going.
To pick up the crown and put it on.
It will be been electric. So I would say Pat is too high
class. I think he just knows something
that would bomb live on this street.
I like your thoughts out there. Leo, what just happened to the
chats, telling me Derrick Henry. This was also part of Pat's
requests for this dream wanted to be going concurrent of the
big dog here. Did he just throw a touchdown or
something? No, I don't got the game up
here. They're still 1310.
Okay, I don't know everyone's saying Henry is now qb0?
I guess even attempt. You just blew past.
It's like the world is going nuts.
Um, all right. Leah.
My I assume you have some words of wisdom for Pat here.
You going to give him. I would say give him tips for
thumbnails but I don't know about you two.
I mean, what tips? Do I give the guy, he's the,
he's the champion of the, I mean, he's got to be the most
profitable fantasy. Ball season-long player ever
right? Like move over.
Chad learned about him. Recently won a bunch of contests
but it can't be all. I learned about him.
Kicked off with a yeah. What other kind of you know,
things should should Pat have to look out for here is packing be
doing a stream with some of his high school buddies about picks
against the spread next year. Like what other GTO tips do you
have for him? You know I don't see Pat being
as chaotic as as my roll out, he's a little bit more
established and the industry, we had a chat.
Of course, the best Ball Mania chat, me him, Justin, so he'll
have good advisors on his way. But Pat's got a handle man, I'm
not going to be Prize, if he goes out to Asia and we just
don't hear of them again, you know, he's like might be badly.
I sure hope that doesn't happen, I don't know, find me now US
government to Mill. Wait, what are you going to
start doing you promised? Haven't you promised us both
chess and work out. Content on your YouTube stream?
You know, I've been thinking about that recently Pete.
I was thinking, I'm a dude, I'm gonna do a combine and like,
fill my stats as Now, and by the way, I broke down Pat's fantasy
football Expo routes on my channel.
And anyone United that do numbers-wise Liam not?
Well, no. Well, but, you know, that's not
fastball Mania and I've watched it.
I enjoyed it. I will say you had one viewer.
No. I mean, what do we think the
odds are that the winner comes from?
Because I mean, this is now to people that were not only like
in your Discord like grinding but like what do you Your odds
are like the player pool comes from someone in like fantasy
football Twitter versus, I don't know a rando.
I mean I would kind of appreciate if it wasn't like a
Pete over Zach. Contact high and was just kind
of a Pete over is that thing is kind of what I'm rooting for.
Liam Gretch. Do you want to handicap?
Whatever question. He just asked, I was watching
the game and not listen, I will say it was very fun later this
week once stuff starts added to finalize, to scroll through
ship, chasing to scroll through the NFL, best ball Channel, and
the deposit Kingdom. Just so many people in their
shipping tournaments at the top of the leaderboards, you know.
Shout out to all those guys there.
I know we had someone who won the resurrection finishing,
Skyler 11 of the Palms, just all kinds of great wins there in the
deposit Kingdom. So, definitely love to see that.
And look, I mean I feel like we've hit the over on this.
Can we? Can I congratulate Liam he won
three hundred thousand dollars on DraftKings.
Yeah, that would have been that would have been crazy if you
didn't win two mil. So you kind of kind of quench my
flame. Yeah, I was, I will say, I mean
hey, how are you doing? How's April doing?
But she was having a rough night.
I was trying to soothe her to bed by reading her my cash game
shell. It's going well, but a right to
sleep. No, but Liam, congratulations.
There's been lots of Whispers around the industry that you're
a best ball fraud. And, you know, just asked us to
show that a broken clock is right, twice a day.
It says, congratulations. You know, it was tough scenes,
one on Christmas, some troll posted on my YouTube video,
like, TJ. Hawkinson scored a lot of points
or something like, can't wait until you post about your best
ball losses. And The only person I banned
from my YouTube. I was like I don't need that in
my face but I didn't do one. I know I banned him too soon.
Now I can't even write the question.
Everyone wants to know though is was Gabe.
Davis on those work on that team around those teams gave Davis
was on one of the teams but that was the first glance and those
points didn't count so and on the other team it was it was a
Mahomes team. So Mahomes McKinnon, Kelsey
team, who And I don't think I had a lot of my homes teams in
the 555, but if you like just draft bills and every drive, so
I don't think he probably take a lot of chiefs teams period.
One of the only teams I did not have a Bills play around.
Wow, what bills and every draft? I mean, sit under the bills are
your handicap. Like when you didn't draft
bills, you built a champion. That's well, it's not like
you're plastered rafter, then, you know.
But you take bills in every draft and then maybe if you
would just like draft the players, I mean better than
Help. It's right.
Like Tyler asking the most pressing question.
Liam, is it possible to cheat in baseball with anal beads?
God we're back, we're back. We are back on the grind.
No ma'am. But congrats to Pat like a true
grinder. And you know been said earlier
that's a grinder but what he didn't mention and I only picked
this up because I was listening to some pot and Pat mentioned is
he listens to a lot of content and I think that's probably a A
lot of that's like work-related, but he has to be like in the
offseason because I'm an accessory.
I got like seven different pods. I'm listening to, I'm like, I
feel like you're about to Kitchen this and try to take
credit for Pat listening to some of your streams for a wedding.
Oh yeah, definitely, congrats to Yeah.
I mean that's the way that you said it in terms of being a
grinder I need to go get another beer to Cheers but I only
brought three up and we're celebrating.
So just got three Pat its kind of melted now but I made myself
a double old-fashioned with a giant ass Ice Cube in solidarity
with you and our ship chasing trip a couple years ago that
looked delicious when you started that.
And I also forgot. What are you on part of this
tree? You know, like I think I was
good at Fantasy Football but Last year I die.
I only really like, I didn't know a lot of content to listen
to. It really started with ship
chasing. I listened to the to the, like
bomb drop episode with Eric to, where it was like, where the
real Avalanche kicked off? Yeah, that episode last summer,
year's summer before last summer.
Oh man where we that's historical episode in fantasies
was, I mean like think of how much are they Got 100 virgins on
the internet. Basically.
From that point on, we never got to do another normal draft on
the street like that, man. Australian producers have been
in contact about that. Yeah, I mean, I was actually
shocked when kitchen. He sidestepped it.
He didn't even try to take credit for you as Martin
Mystery. He said he was going to try to
graft you on which I thought was like, huge strides for kitchen.
Yeah, that's that's not take credit for that.
I was a little shocked that he he wasn't going to try to find a
way that I was a flowering Branch off from so you were
definitely lost. I think he's waiting for the
result of this game and he wants to celebrate the tightened and
pass same tweet. That's right.
Exactly Pat. What's what's the funniest thing
that's come out since like you winning someone coming out of
the woodwork a message, you've gotten weird reaction.
Like what? Give us something good since you
were little what I wasn't. So no one is like come out of
the woodwork knock on wood in a bad way.
I've gotten a lot of like really nice.
Is from people, you know, being like bait, like be careful.
This is like the people are going to come out of the
woodwork now and it's like so far I think is a testament to
the community. Like only people only nice
having a guy out of the woodwork.
You haven't found out about it. An illegitimate son yet or no,
there's no illegitimate Sons. Yeah, you know can't miss
investment opportunities thankfully I will say so the
funniest I guess I think the funniest thing is that right
around when the AP A report came out that they weren't gonna play
the game if this is after I talked to my dad, I was like
trying to get in touch with my family and my sister called me.
And I was like, hey, what's up and she's like hey how's it
going? Yeah.
So are you about to win like a lot of money and I was like,
okay time about 2.2 million dollars and so she was she had
heard it from one of her co-workers.
Because her co-workers husband watches ship chasing so it's
amazing. Yeah like your you teach with
Pat Curran sister like in the so she heard it through the
grapevine like as kind of it would the timing of was amazing
because it was like right as I would have called, I would have
called her in like the next 10 minutes.
Wow, you you were with puckering sister.
Hey, I didn't realize how Irish but I Googled the last name
karein and apparently strong Irish Irish heritage is that
true? I'm an Irish citizen.
I have my assistantship Liam. Thank God is doing some research
before coming on this show? A lot of people won't look at
kind of the ancestral origins of our last names before they come
on. And I really appreciate that.
Was because of bricks tweet about the wax out there being
like they're making the group's you know.
Daily. Yeah.
Pat you want to speak about Underdog made the graphic.
Yay they did. Everly, you know, withhold
daily. Roadshow from that graphic.
Yeah, they were. So they write, they Rush this
thing out. Has me drafted out of the one
town and doesn't include daily Road Rules.
Like, excellent buildable. 110 know, is the 107.
Looks like teenager are fitted on July 18.
There's no mention of my handle. I don't know why is there a
reason? I guess you know how is daily?
Roadshow not the biggest thing on the screen.
What? Yeah, come on.
Give me that. Give me the handle.
Now I haven't gone back and looked but Liam when you got
your Tweet did was your handle mentioned you know Pat I don't
think they did a tweet for me. Great shock.
You this may shock you but then the dude who just popped on
Twitter and said let's hold. They weren't exactly celebrating
that character yet. No commercial or something.
Commercials out there. I'm wearing the shirt on your
dog, you know? In the past few days.
This is all dopamine about, I think about 1,500.
So, okay, that's that's what, that's what it gets, you Davis,
10%. I mean, Davis wasn't wrong,
things was not wrong. The best part about that is,
that's like the worst 1,500 followers.
You have on your whole lives now, just like, oh, if I read
this guy's tweets, I'm gonna, I mean, but not all of them.
But like, a decent chunk of them thinks that they're going to get
some kind of magic fairy dust by reading your tweets.
Well, I'm at what if they do whatever the worst part of you
winning? Pat is that I'm legally,
obligated to title every ship chasing stream, this summer,
draft with the winner of Best Ball Mania, three and two, other
sacks of potatoes. Radishes.
Hey, I got a great idea for the stream name.
Have you thought about ship chased?
You know, we have yes, that one was in the hopper for a few days
there. I mean, I bet you that I've
thought about padlock Pete. I did have that thought I was
like, this is gonna be great for ship Chase.
We just get like, we now work with the winner of Best Ball, 3
know. But Gretch, you're thinking
about this all wrong because I was thinking about it from the
other direction, I was like, we're gonna have to capitulate
to whatever Pat wants in a draft because you'd be like, oh,
Gretchen P want to do this. But did you guys win this
bulmania 3 and then Pat gets his way?
It's what I was. It's a are you guys maxing out
the playoffs a lot of dust and knocks bigs coming up next time?
Leave. Yeah.
We're gonna be all about Dom. Okay.
It was like him or Adam. Like I remember the Evan engram
at the Evan engram episode this summer.
Ben do you? I don't, I don't remind me,
whatever it is, because I don't remember it.
What was it? Why don't I meet a girl?
We wanted Evan and I know that's a tough.
And for you Gretch. Can we do if you was like not
that good for a lot of we driving now but really came
alive. No, I mean that's every night
that's really. I mean I you brought up that out
of Dawson Max I just said yeah I know I mean I was wrong 39
points in a game. One tight end scores 39 points
one time he said medium long time.
Well let's talk about that a little bit but you know Leone
was saying well you can't plan an for basically leverage in the
playoff groups and something I've been thinking through
especially for like these really large field GPS is you kind of
can plan in some lower Advance rate guys.
Like they have kind of a pattern a pattern, you know, like
Javonte Williams if you worried about Melvin Gordon, fits the
pattern AJ Dylan, what I think. How do you plan for that?
When a guy has a fixed ATP that doesn't do the thing where you
put the point is I think a lot of people draft every pic, like
I think this person is going to score the most points and you
can layer in a like Dawson knocks.
I wanted because he was a tight end, he could score points in
playoff weeks, but I thought he was a dog to outscore, a
reminder, a a Pollard whoever you took over him.
So it's like, should you be targeting?
Always the league running running backs?
Or like every Titan, we know, is kind of inflated.
I don't know. That's just what I would say is
that by drafting Unique structures you know I think
Pat's too early running back three late cubies that you're
going to naturally end up in a unique and unique combinatorial
pairings of players that the field doesn't have.
But I do think like it's impossible to like draft one
guy. Like this is gonna be a low
Advance rate player, right? Like well I guess I would say
like so the references dream again the spike weeks dream.
We were talking about Mike Mike Evans which I thought was really
interesting. I mean I was convinced that he
would be a low low Advanced, right?
Guy like I do, that was one of the like pound the table
positions from the summer and I was right but I was wrong,
right? I mean like he said that would
be an example like maybe pump a guy has a will you had that
knowledge guys? Like no week 17 in you took my
Kevin's in every single draft. How many of those 150 like you
probably don't get a single Mike Evans team to I think you would.
I think you'd get one in maybe. Well you won't get a team to the
the finals because your dog to get any team to the finals.
Exactly. Doggy any team of the fun which
is saying it's not something you would necessarily like.
Even with that knowledge, you wouldn't be able to realize that
edge. But it's, you're probably not
going to realize the edge, right?
You're probably not going to let you into the finals.
Now, you have a chance of winning, right.
I do think it's something to think about where if it's not
that I'm going to take the guy because I think he's a bad pick
but it I'm going to take a guy because I think he is overpriced
but Does have a weekly ceiling. I think that's the common.
Yeah, like here all the time like why take player X when I
could take player? Why who's the same thing?
A cheaper cost. And that's not really the right
way to think about it when it's a playoff week format.
Well here's what I will say about that though if you are
going to do that where you could sell me on it a little bit more.
Is if this pick is correct, if Mike Evans wins me two million
dollars. Tom Brady is probably also
winning me two million dollars and what is The Logical
extension of that? Bet that Is going to help?
Yeah, they're like just writing it as a one-off.
Like, what does it mean by me? Taking this pick?
And Tom, Brady would be a big part of that.
That's right. Yeah.
You'd almost have to take Tom Brady there, right?
Especially if you think Evans is a bad pit, like if you just like
Evans and you're taking Evans, maybe not.
But if you're like, I'm going, I'm going to take my Kevin's
here and maybe I mean not even going to take him because he's a
follower. I'm just going to take them.
This is kind of what I was talking about earlier with like
that, just sometimes being like, you know, But in this in this
draft, like the Bucks are crushing and week 17, I'm going
to just drop like that rested on the Fisher backwards.
However you pronounce that mention that like you kind of
locked ourselves out of values and maybe this is honestly maybe
this is a bad idea of like this is like very much a half-baked
idea but I think there's something to the idea of like
what you just said. Like okay I'm gonna go Evans is
going to be a guy that I'm going to try to sneak through.
I think he's overpriced he's got a massive ceiling.
Tying with, Brady tying him with a panther coming back, building
a game stack around. That is kinda interesting you,
but you're basically saying you like this players chance to hit
a high weekly ceiling in a given week but you don't like their
chance of doing it more than the field like who the more than the
field around? Yeah, like right either because
you think they're going to come on later in the season or you're
not as impressed with the offense, you know like Should
you be mixing in? Like, I've been trying to think,
like, should I be mixing in a cam Akers?
Who like I was so confident, cam Akers was a bad pick for
advanced rate purposes, but can he score two touchdowns in the
playoff weeks? Of course he could.
So should I, if I think I'm drafting sharp teams.
Anyways, should I take some of these guys who maybe unconfident
are not going to be great season wide but could just pop up if I
get them through and I don't know, I think some of them are
just bad process. Lucky.
I don't know either like some of them.
Yeah, it's always so result space to because Evans is a guy.
I felt really bad about it for a long time until he.
Yeah. And then I'm like, well, I was
right. He could have done that, you
know like right. Yeah.
And you got plenty to if he had done it, the rest of the
playoffs. I probably be like we can't trap
Mike Evans, you know, so it's like, is this a lesson?
Is this results? We never know.
Yeah, I mean I think we know who Mike Evans is a player.
I mean, how many rocking seasons in a row with the thousand plus
yards? We know he has that ceiling.
He was in the fucking by Leone model for eight straight weeks
this season, because of his areare, it's like, you know, who
he is in the same way like Gabe Davis.
Right. I mean not to get Liam's boner
going here on this stream, but it's like, it could have just as
easily been gave Davis dropping 40 in week, 17, and no one would
have thought that was surprising.
After being a low Advance rate player this year, We got some
good comments here. First from Mike.
I agree too much Theory talking to Sir party.
Cheers Pat you motherfucker. Hey to my Olean dollars.
That are you experienced person or item person experienced
person? I also love this.
B. / Madre is what we were hoping wrote.
You're right though. But Pat also loves her Mantra
and a dual everyone. Really hit on Romansh right
before anyone else. Yeah there's a there's audio of
me desperately trying to get pizza draft from Andre and like
the 14th round of yeah 2020 draft continue their says cam
Akers was a fantastic. CRP Peggy was not as your RV
pick. He was a fourth and fifth round
pick all draft season. Yeah.
Yeah, he did.
He fall to the Jacobs ah, be certified gel Jacob's dead.
But Kim, I don't think cam Akers ever lived past the sex?
I don't think so, either. And then he'll 26.
Yeah, yeah. Ronald Jones lie.
Yeah, people want to know Pat? Have you started blast now that
you have this Underdog balance? I mean, how much of it are you
withdrawing? How much are you keeping on this
site? I mean, you got, you got a Max,
The Gauntlet. Come on, guys.
Don't be a net. I mean, I don't know.
You know do you want I'm the max that that's going to fill.
I don't know dude. Yeah that's trapped auto-draft
Max. They Gauntlet Pat.
Be a man donate back to the community.
Yeah the stockholders. It's the way to do it.
So let's talk on their side. Are you are you going to Max the
ffp? See content.
I want that clip for to. We're gonna be firing the
stockholders we. Well, I should say, I'm glad you
mentioned that, we'll, of course.
Have some ffp, see playoff contest programming.
Next week, we got a few things in the works.
I will just put out the right now.
We're not going to be as ambitious as lie last year.
You guys didn't we do five shows?
I've won every day. Five shows.
Yeah, a little, they love us. I said last time, I think
whenever I said this, that I was down.
I'm no longer down. You were the only one down like
three weeks ago? Yeah, I know you.
This guy, what two million is no longer willing to slum it on
streem, five days a couple more things to do.
Now on to my wealth management firm, like some things I have to
take care of before I leave the country.
Yeah. But but I will be doing the FPC
projections for the ownership so you can you can look for those
and we're going to be going through so it'll be the same.
It was Behind a pay wall and pack green.com back rings.
I gotta. Yeah.
I think we gotta that's interesting the way that
ownership projections have impacted the way DFS is played
this year. Do we need to make Pat's
ownership projections? Well, they're only for the VIPs
right? I think I had one I did last
time, right? When we put them in the shell
casing. Yeah, that's right.
Let's try to get some of this pack.
Korean goodbye. We gotta be a VIP to get those
projections baby. So I know this is linked in the
description. What's your name again?
I can promise I can promise it least.
I feel like I can promise, three shows.
I feel like seems like we're saving it till 3:00 Tuesday, our
Flagship Wednesday in a Friday show, I think.
What we're headed toward essentially, what you guys did
last year, just what just to others because it's too many
guess need to trim the fat and literally did five, did you tell
Sheamus on agree more? What are we not going to Davis
on for the first look, kind of thing?
We did that on Monday the last couple.
That's this is what I'm talking about.
I'd love to. I mean, I just, I can't pad kit
rich. I have a newborn.
What's your excuse? Davis is David's down, I'll do
it. No, I'm down.
I'm down to come on Monday. I do it first like, well, pack.
It up his money and I give my daughter a bottle.
Tell wanted to like, like, start reading and stuff, but this has
been a weird week. I intended to, like new year,
new me this week. And instead, I spent the whole
week sweating Pat, like, like thing about a hacker a Non-Stop,
which is not that different from most of my weeks, but, like,
really aggressive this week. What's your New Year's
resolution been going to read more was your New Year's
resolution to, to be open-minded about drafting the Kelly Meyers
Liam? Yeah.
What is this rate? My point about Jacoby Meyers
that is now been miss quoted has been disproved.
And I believe that's libel is, you know, like directionally I
was not trying to take wide receivers that round.
Obviously, anyone can score points any given week?
It does not mean they were let's let's back up, let's set the
table here. So I was on Liam stream and I
was breaking down this team ahead of time.
You know, and.and. Liam kind of jumped the Jacobi
Mars jumped out to him as a real, you know, kind of low
upside. You these are the types of pics.
We can't be making. I don't think you.
I don't think we were going through the team.
I think we were talking about players.
Jacoby Myers came up thinking I do not know he was on your team
and so okay, okay you were like, what do you mean?
And I'm like it sounds like talking shit about a guy in my
Did Jake, just kick on Fourth and three from the 18 down six
points. Yeah, that was laying by them to
cut it to three from where they doing.
Anyways, they also kicked from forth and 78 down six points.
Doug Peterson Leone's, excited about the own.
He's excited. Let's go Jax.
Let's go titans. Excuse me tight.
Yeah, Titans my bed. I want the Jags to win so we
want fights when I'm so torn. Because Leone is so hyper
leveraged on this bet that I want him to be happy and get a
w. But God I would rather see the
Jags in the playoffs. Yeah.
And what about my for gauntlets team?
Look at this, look at this Jedi words like yes, it's the right
call. I have a special photo shop that
has been delivered via our friend.
Kevin Tompkins, this is a remix for any ship, chasing fans here
but we do now officially. Oh my God, there's so many
Easter eggs on this thing. Here we have the canaries, Tony,
we got Berkeley and Eckler The Background by block.
The road, your TV from tonight, the road Jyoti is The Easter
eggs here, possible to Kevin's in your apartment, Pat
incredible. If you it just Pat, we just
promise me one thing. When you go on this media to
her, will you not say the term? Fucking bimodal IV just for the
love of God. Don't say that Mother.
Yeah, superhero, right. That's what I call it the.
Everyone got got mad because they're like, that's he'll sleep
too early running backs. Like a normal person.
Well there is something to the idea of Tanks.
I don't know, Pete to best balking at Champions like
superhero so maybe need to open your imagination yappy.
Yeah, I miss him. Because it's like zero.
Yeah, Heroes one and superheroes sorted to but Advantage the
superhero is that it clarifies to, whereas bimodal could be
three or four, it could be like a very robust build, it's still
one mode and then it can be flat for a long time in another mode.
Will bimodal help me out on an article that Haydn wrote, which
he outlined that. It is just too, so, but it's,
but I hear you're saying, but bimodal the concept means to
most graphically. It basically means the dead
zone, right? Doesn't it It.
Well, I don't know, I mean I don't know the way I've been
doing it. I've waited long, I wait kind of
through past the dead zone like I tended to wait more to like
the 9th or to the very end like my women team was to ensure
what? Yeah, I want Jonathan Taylor and
Aaron Jones and the first context and that he ever got was
by Mohit. We've moved on, you're no longer
the champ, man. No one cares.
But I mean, I'm making a pattern.
Connecting a line here. Yeah, so - Nikki was on both
teams. Mike the second wasn't built
teams, can we give Austin Eckler a little bit more of a shout
out? Because not only did, he was he
like the only way that I, you know, could actually take this
thing down. But when I was in second case of
the Monday's, he was in here earlier.
Yeah. The case of the Monday's was
hanging out in here. Got second.
Yeah. Got second place.
Yeah. And he came very close because I
had to sweat out the Sunday night game and he had Isaiah
likely and Pat farmers and George Pickens.
So we had a number of so that was a really, really That's was
a scary moment in Russia. Yes, in the first quarter have
an important shared screen. Here it is.
The definition of God began. Oh, my God involved.
Then you were the one who said, we're what happened in a fun and
now you've got graphs on screen. Yeah, you just went got more
modelo's. We can't be doing bimodal graphs
how about by Modelo, I'm teaching people stuff, but it's
just a fantasy Echo point when I was in second place and I was as
I literally, I was blocked by kid'll and lock it, like the I
couldn't pass. So the only way I could pass was
Eckler as a 72-yard touchdown, but the only way this team got
in was because Austin, hecklers scored two touchdowns the week
before. That's the only way this.
I thought this team was completely dead to even make the
finals and Eckler got me in so Heckler.
And he was what only Legend 50% Truly Lionel.
Hot Pot. What was I thinking?
- is great, nobody better Modelo because of this, I'll be right
back. How much did you win?
By Pat? I believe, I had one, sixty one
point something, and I think so, like five points, I think it's
called. I can pull it out.
Last year, he's got a good point.
He says, this is exactly how she celebrates arguing.
The I mean, 11% Eckler, that's kind of crazy because he did
score two touchdowns week 15 and then it just goes Jefferson had
such a good nose for to touch on weekends, 16%.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Jefferson talking, the mechanics
of this again. Can we talk about the mechanics
of how you have two million dollars stacked up?
Like, can we get our money, then we get up on that table?
Can you buy that room? So it's no longer agree screen
and then that's just your room behind you.
Yeah. Well, slack building It says
that this was not designed by me but rather offered to me as hey
when you're using green screens, maybe is this whenever someone
copy and pasted, that from Microsoft Word and just sent
that to you? I will say there was a plan to
spend. You said, you're gonna, you're
gonna invest, we got, you're gonna buy something like, you
know, buy a vacation home in Montana or something like what's
it going to be a mighty vacation of Montana?
Now, that's interesting. I hadn't thought of that, I will
say like, so I really here or like anything, I am a terrible
skier, I'm a terrible skier, I do like what you doing it?
You do have to be, I like doing it.
Yeah. I we're I'm going on a ski trip
this. I've got a ski pass, I will ski
this this winter, but I went for what?
I got the time. I got the icon or the I can't
remember. Rich everyone.
Going skiing. Did we get what do we have?
The icon of the Epic? Cheers by Modelo.
We have the icon but he only draft strategy.
Go to that Motel. I so the biggest thing is that I
currently live in a one one bedroom apartment where I have
this office, is my living room and so I would, I would enjoy
having an office. Can we all Bully Pat to move?
So he doesn't have to pay an extra 200.
K in taxes. Be good friends to patent
everyone and Bully him to move out in New York City Jaguars.
Just run a second. And ten draw to jamychal Hasty.
I'm sorry, I hope your friend move.
He needs to Did that just happen?
Yeah. Forget the tax benefits.
What Fisher says he move? So I was a teacher in New York
City, you pay city taxes to you, do pay city taxes.
It's pretty sure Pat is, as probably thought through some of
this stuff Leah. I am thinking through and I'm
meeting with people who carries on the fence about some stuff,
it's a big move to just it. Is it II will say, I have not
like necessarily been a Like a plan ahead person.
Much my life. I'm kind of more of like a
either. I'm an in-the-moment person
generally. Hey, so now I'm having, I think
through some stuff. Have you thought about staying
in New York? Buying a 400 square foot studio
apartment and going to Whole Foods once with your winnings.
Is what it would be accurate. It's probably not that much of a
joke. It's not a joke.
It's not a joke at all. Yeah.
But you be across the street from the whole food, going to
Whole Foods. Once dude, I was really excited.
I mean, I'm pivoting again, but I was really excited to watch
football again today, like excited.
But, like sort of nervous is just weird.
Obviously I think all of us as football fans had a weird week
I'm all the way back in now with Jacksonville, kicking field
goals on Fourth and short twice in the red zone.
They just ran a second 10 draw to, to Michael at Hasty.
And then punted a couple plays later.
They are absolutely blowing. This like, this is their shot to
go to the playoffs. There's no aggression
whatsoever. I think they're good to like, I
think they would like they could upset one of the big three and
they have see if they're a good team.
It's like this is a bummer. The other bomber is your
message. It's wide open in the end zone
earlier and that's what people are going to talk about.
He missed that past and that's why they lost.
But really it's like this is a lot of bad decisions.
Anyway, back to back to back wins, a million Mike Mike was
saying I'm not a spur-of-the-moment guy here in
the comments but I think I am. I'm not silly spur, the moment
but I am sort of a I live in New York so that I don't have to
think ahead. So I can be like I feel like
going outside and doing something and then I am outside
and there's stuff going on. Like that's my whole
spontaneity. It's your whole thing on today.
Yeah, it's like that. But not yeah like I want the
built-in as soon as I decide that I want like to do this.
That thing is A label rather than like me that's planning and
putting it, you know, kind of setting things into motion.
So that the I've never been good at that.
Now, I will plan things like we, I've done like several, you
know, multi-week vacations. It's a cry for help.
No matter. No, it's not a cry for help.
I'm just well, it sounds amazing.
I mean, no. I'm New York is that like it is
kind of like college where you just like, you know what, let's
do this, let's do this. Let's the night, you know,
nights build, like whatever. You just don't have to think you
can have a great night's that aren't, you don't have to be
like, let's go to this bar or like sleepy Town Vermont, you
could choose. I don't know.
My nothing would compete with New York.
Literally, I do love New York and you've ever Miller saying,
do I need a Person think a one-year vacation to Miami would
be okay. That was Miami.
Might be fun CeCe. That's that was a good City.
Miami might be fun. Where are you even living right
now? Where are you right now?
Lamb I'm Steepy. Okay.
Is that that's near Tampa? Yeah.
Have you ever been there big city before you want to go now?
Have you been there since before you want a million dollars, or
did you move down there as a result?
I was a chess teacher in New York and then covid hit and I
went back to Florida and then I moved to st.
Pete was I went to college here. So one is Alibi for a guy who
want a million dollars. I like that that vaguely checks
out. Yeah IRS I'm sure that our
residents checking in on the ship is shipshape.
They were going to watch one episode.
Probably this one to billionaires to facing football
ml everybody, how we did all our agents on this name.
Some of those summer stream ship Chase.
So throw off the scent. Max wants you to move to Puerto
Rico. I mean, I don't even want to
imagine what Pat's I do. Like Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico,
though. I've been to Puerto Rico several
times. It's a great great place.
Your internet told me that pretty well these.
Yeah, it's crazy depressed. Yeah.
Liam, have you been to the Dali Museum that yeah, man, it's
really good. Ivan been since college.
So I want to go again, right? I tried to go and it was like to
fold. It was over packed or something
they want to yeah. Now, how a lot of love for the
Dali Museum here, I will say that.
You asked like, what the funniest comments and the
funniest things were here. Yeah.
And her there has been a recurring suggestion.
There has been a recurring suggestion that I buy a
pickleball team and I just, I want to get, I mean, Pat, by the
way. But I know there are some things
that are just a bridge too far and bringing up that word on
cash game week of all game overs.
It's game over. That's will be the name of the
team as it is. A buddy, likes a carrion game
overs. That's game.
Disgusting, that's amazing. Now, that that I do want to look
into, I don't know if anyone has any information on on the price
of pickleball teams. I would be willing to grind and
try to join the team. Okay.
All right. Justin Herzig also pretty good
at pickleball. I do.
I also have quite enjoy pickleball.
It's very fun. You guys are just going to
become all the Piston. Pete, Pat save the taxes.
We could put down below, hang on, you said, so you said
Justin, Herzog likes to play Pickleball and you, you play
Pickleball and I play Pickleball.
Now, huh? That's a weird coincidence, for
all three of us to have. This is tough tread.
They're just gonna I feel like there's anything to that thing.
Tonight is supposed to be a night about celebrate, you know,
celebrations and I feel like it really got lost in the shuffle
that I did. Finish fifth.
Down. Ha ha ha, did you think his
Thunder? Pat?
I I've been asking a lot of questions tonight and I don't
know if you guys have kind of questions for me.
Yeah. What about feel like I was?
I don't think I have contemplated moving to Austin or
Miami just because of like, the tax benefits.
Ultimately, I do think I'm gonna stay here in Boston, had some
hilarious conversations with my family, you know, Know what I
told my dad that I won 5,000, he didn't believe me like that.
It's true, man. And it's just been a surreal
week, but if you guys have any other questions, I'm happy to
answer it. Look, they're swapping off.
I, you can the movie. No, I mean, I uke is like one of
the low advancement guys, you kind of put in your Flex,
they're just kind of knowing that a lot of the field, is it
going to have him? And he was definitely the guy
you needed in that contest. Any other questions from the
Well, I mean while we're discussing other big hits, we
should mention that our NFC team with Leone.
We should have mentioned when we were on ended up in second
place. The we advance the 10K by it.
Last year listeners will know the five k by n.
We want it this year. We're in the 10K buying we got
second. Is it topple?
Where you get paid or yes? Yeah 3.33 do.
We more than doubled? Our money slightly?
Yeah. Gretchen's gonna win the battle
until you have a chance at it. Like 60% we had a chance.
At first, if we would have made two different line of decisions,
we had our tight end position was a mess after we lost pits.
This is a trail and scalp it's very salty.
They got second in a 10K 12 Team league I mean that's grinding
might be granted it out. We go we had training bright and
Jelani Jelani Woods at the end played Woods.
If we would have played McBride, we did discuss that one.
The one we didn't discuss. What have been benching Garrett
Wilson for Brandon, I you? But if we would have been both
those swaps, we actually could have came only and yeah, like
you're ever been cheating Wilson.
But the but the right, I don't think we ever was with my quite
back, my quite played so bad and now they're actually benching
him this, you know, like he's just not ready, he's not help.
You know, the worst part about Ben, Chi McBride.
We had the Tyler algae or week 17 correlation.
We did a bride is why I won the 555.
Really. Wow, love it.
That's awesome. That is awesome.
Wait, the Kelsey team? Kelsey McMahon, Pat, we were in
the 555 with a good team. When we worship chased, we
haven't cried in that team as well.
Barely missed out. And we had McBride on that team.
We might have been given chest, chest, Liam here a little bit.
Uh, yeah. Bit of a sweat but we missed by
like, what that was a Jefferson waiting though, wasn't it?
So we wouldn't have won in the final week that wouldn't cost of
the finally meet up. I was so low.
On Jefferson was the Green Bay matchup.
Up in the frozen tundra I was pretty obvious.
Yeah. Your Mentor.
You got Leah be lost at the end of the regular season.
We got third by like a few points and we all that was a
Kyler team. There were wild card, it was on
Monday night kind of tore his ACL that game.
The only but I didn't feel about 100 about like five percent
right now. Wow, there's only happy Wild
Card teams. Fill in.
We, yeah, we were good enough to get to the wild-card wild cards
either we were reasonably we were extremely Only close if
Kyler Murray would have had a good Monday Night Football and
McBride. Those are the two guys we have
left and kind of, I had a lot of Tyler.
What do we think about Kyler? Like, I don't think it was bad
process to be in on Cuyler that was just terrible.
I'll tell you what, I think we should have drafted hurts
instead that's kind of what I think.
Well, in height and also agrees, happy who's like, you know, I
think it wasn't bad process. I think now we have to update it
priors. Okay.
Wasn't for the he's not be healthy so I can see 17.
But that was a pretty appealing matchup to be like in playoff
formats. I want this team.
Yeah, I think. Oh sorry.
So F of Disguise. We should bring this up.
Go Bills, won back-to-back. Yeah, yeah, we got it.
We got a shot is on the. Did it on fucking believable?
And I went back to back in the me because I'm forgetting his
name but didn't one guy? When was it Abe?
The football guys. Twice in a row.
He won the football guys. Twice in a row.
The gold bills. Guys told me one of them, I
believe, mentioned to me, I might be saying this wrong, so
don't hold them to account that they are the first to win
back-to-back in the main, which is great have to be that.
I mean it's I think it is, You best ball Turtle?
I don't know. Like did best ball, we're huge
Basketball Tournament, Justin one of the best ball tournament
last year. So you're not even the first
because he was investment made in one and then it's a, there's
our boys in the chat, both Nick and Shawn are watching.
Nick Constantino, Sean stutzman are both.
Oh, yes, and that's rather be roughly grats.
You guys are the shit, but I mean 1.5 million.
Not as impressive as two million.
But, you know, it's okay. Over the last couple of years,
okay? That you win, 500 million, five
hundred thousand last, Year, a million this year.
It's okay relative to what Pat did, but, you know, IAM was with
CSU Ram chasing you down in one of those DraftKings contest.
Yeah, I'm gonna make a video in a, in a big here probably like
Tuesday, or something on it. But did you ever thought about
letting one of the little guys? Well, that's why I like, I mean,
one guy got real lucky where he was never going to hold second,
but I still think I would have held on but basically he needed
65 points between Dean. Burro, Higgins and Chase.
But they needed to score those amount of points.
But I also had Boyd so that could have grown the best part,
is he serious? I don't know why you guys are
hitting on me for, hey, you know, my 1000 subscriber,
YouTube channel needs needs the pub.
Now, you're coming on here, just to plug your YouTube channel.
Anyways, no he got. I'm actually going to have him
on Monday to talk, but he He was in a bunch of finals so I don't
exactly know. I think he got screwed in the
555 but maybe he broke well in other spots I don't know.
And then a different Peter Jennings won the best ball
contest on NFC and I thought it was CSU Ram.
It's not what I'm happy. I learned that that's not
because I say so It's best ball for the
first 10 weeks and then it's managed.
Wow, which I kind of love that. Can we do that for the FTC?
Yeah, I want to do that for every league, right?
Like was then you're like okay. Do I have a sweater or not?
Now let's let's lock in. Yes, here's an idea manage
leagues but best ball. I mean, ha ha ha.
I could do, I did ten manage leagues this year and I hated
it. I hated the I tried.
I tried a dynasty League this year, that was managed, but with
best ball scores. For the first time like you can
do waivers and stuff and I didn't like it because I like I
just because it was best ball. I didn't Pat, are you in that
one? I'm with in one League.
I which one is that? I'm in.
Its ftc's best balls. Are I'm with you but I didn't
know there were waverers so I know you are like my team.
They are like that, right? FF PCS best ball.
Dynasty leagues, have waivers. I didn't like that.
I mean, I'd like this idea of waivers at specific points.
That other thing we talked about on the show before I like that I
get, but, uh, Tried to face football World Series a couple
years ago was how it was like they split into quarters.
What if waivers were just like every third week throughout the
year you know or every I mean every other still feels.
I don't become fun man. I would be the exact every week
6. Bad 9e, tell all those movies
runs. Do you think about me revealing
the bids for a quarterly waiver contest?
I mean it would be a wild ramp that would be.
So lectric did you fuck like that main events were harder
this year? Or or did you sure hope so or
not that bad? Yeah.
See their team that won this year because that's a team.
I would have made to the finals and then like all right well
it's got him. A home stack let's see how it
goes but it's not like You know I listen to to your episode
interviewing them been and it really it like they won this
team through like Game Theory this year versus versus like
having a super team. Yeah, it was a totally different
thing than last year when they got really hit the draft.
I mean, they they're Depot and Cooper cop and Chase and
Jonathan Taylor. Last year, their whole freaking
team was all the league winners and this year, the team kind of
is good management is like they took out Robinson in the fourth
round. Like they manage their way
there, they made, the right starts to decisions, right?
I mean if that's not what's so cool about it, If you could do
it both ways. I mean that's incredible.
Literally. I was just thinking people are
saying, congrats Pat, I want to do another Pat moment.
I was talking to Sean the other day.
He made a comment that Pat might be the best Dynasty writer in
the industry. I think that might be true.
I could call this. He's retired from that.
Now the walkthrough is the best in season article in the
industry. I don't accept in week 18 when
he phones it in. Yeah.
Putting it in the call. Got disconnected, my friend, the
call was disconnected. I don't read much at all in the
season. I talked about that a lot.
I checked in on the walk through almost every single week because
like I wanted to and I didn't have the time, I don't know, I
don't know how to explain this but I didn't feel like with
stealing signals everything I'm writing.
I feel like I want to be detached from famous football
somewhat and spend time in my life but like I made it a point
to check in on that as much as I absolutely possibly could,
because it's so fucking Good that's in season management
leagues and then you're the best ball King.
So what the hell? Dynasty the season?
You're the man and to buy Modelo our be draft strategy and to
it's a cloud drowning down in Florida.
We do longboards. Hmm.
Which I still have the biggest sticker on scoffs 499.
At the top, I'm going to Vegas this year.
They drafted the winning team in Vegas.
I'm going to be on Vegas. I mean, we're there every year
Puttin it off. Come join us.
I love y'all didn't do like a 10% Equity swap with all your
action. We that was a mistake.
Now, we did. Yeah, we just haven't finalized
the paperwork on that. We got to get that paperwork.
It whose quote is that Anthony? They wrote me off, I ain't right
back though. That was Geno, Smith Gino.
Do you know what someone needs to say, Geno, Smith.
And then another line and I am going to, At Last, I'll put that
up on the on the wall of, stop it.
So, ya know if. Yeah, we're gonna plan every
year ever, like ever. Just asked, if he can pay me to
follow him around as a height meant, no.
Cuz you're not as cool as Pat. Like, it's not hard to hide,
that's not smart. Everyone wants to know the pizza
party plans there was even talk. We did say, if we won the main
event, that we would do a ship chasing yacht party or get a
cruise ship. I mean, you got at least promise
us like multiple toppings, like Least 50.
Yeah, yeah, the toppings. I mean you guys want sausage and
pepperoni. We're going to do that.
Yeah, we can like if there's like extra extra for, you know,
double cheese, no problem. Don't worry about that.
We're gonna this pizza party is gonna be so good.
I mean, really what? I mean, Pat, I might even want
fucking anchovies, man. I might do is, I mean, that's
that's a little. Oh, there's a pizza place.
I think Barnwell posted this and I really want to try it when we
were there. It's the only time I've been in
a sense that does like a triple pepperoni pizza.
And it's like a d. Holy shit.
Look, so fucking good. Are you not talking about the
pizza? Sorry, I'm excited about pizza,
but the Jags just had to pick 60 doing the Jags would have scored
a touchdown. Yeah.
Oh no. It looks like it was a forward
pass. Was that fumble or not?
Good pie is the triple pep in the chat.
I think that's like a 60 Dollar Pizza though, so packing.
By that one. Yeah.
All right. We'll get some good pie.
People who were carving out the now.
Deep dish. I'm not a big deep dish guy.
You guys anything? Yeah, I don't know if it's deep
dish and I can't even remember. It was like it looks so fucking
good. As all I remember is triple pup.
Whatever it was. Wow, ruling confirmed Jack's
touchdown. Wow.
Oh my God. Jesus Christ.
What do you got that Leone? I hope you have a little you
have a combination. You're looking at the high speed
right there. I got the stream, I got the
chat, I got tweetdeck, I'm triangulating information in
real time. I was updating my app and it was
behind you. So like how am I just in a
different like time zone of some sort?
Like, how do you know this information before me?
I feel like I'm literally like behind you.
James money like got up to like / + 200.
I'm not just talking about maybe at plus 200 hedging.
I hope he did man. We already do never something
fun in Vegas by the way. So, you know, to the people who
want to didn't make it out last time, make it out.
What's your eggs live line? Will be honest.
It was posted that I can see was plus 245.
What almost did you feel the live draft rooms were different
than online rooms? Or is it just like, as far as
the pics being made or just, you know, I didn't find them to be
really any different this year from now.
They weren't that different. Yeah.
They're normally more different. There were a little different
but they were, there's normally like a big difference.
The year, the Jerick McKinnon tore, his ACL has drafted in the
second round at the live draft act like a giant.
After the news came out. Yeah, I could.
No, I think it was like, like weeks.
Like I will clearly drafting off a draft guide.
Yeah, so you know, like an outdated raft guide.
Okay. We all know say that jarek the
kidded. Remember, we're all drafting him
early that year when he was going to be on the 49ers.
I mean talk about being justified their trust the
process. Maybe for sure.
Will do. You talked about him a lot of
season as this? This year's for net as a guy who
we saw in the playoffs, how he fits.
So well in the offense you made some really good jerk McKinnon
arguments has this summer feet like yeah, got me on him by
being like, we know their offense runs the best when Jack
mckeon's at running back. We all knew clatter words.
Alert sucked, we wanted to talk about Row Joe.
It's amazing how quickly quite, as Edwards of layer even though
he was like top 20 and fantasy just was like, we're Benji.
You like he was scoring, come on.
Like, we don't want you anymore. Jerk McKinnon ended up doing the
run that you described. He could do at the most
important time for the fancy season.
It was a you fucking nailed up. Yeah, I mean we been mentioned
our 10K team like we had no business cashing in that team.
Kyle pits briefs Hall Trail ants.
Those were three of our what top seven, top, eight picks.
But we getting to on waivers, we got McKinnon on waivers.
I don't know if we drafted McKinnon.
And they'll drop the kidding, kept him and algier.
Yes, and LG how we kept, I'll jump out at us.
Yeah, sure, yes, I did check our draft recently and we took
McKinnon algier back-to-back. Oh, did you guys win the 10K in
the 3000? We've ordered know we finish
second. Oh, do you also drafted and
carry them all Year Pete, and we started him.
It was a narrative member, this narrative is Paul points out in
the chat, the, the invite to the wedding narrative.
Yeah. Eh was not right.
No, he was Ill. He was This is a reason to draft
him, as I remember it. This McKinnon talk is a 2023
James, Cook tweet, love that comment.
James Goes, looks good. Dude.
He has a nice little playoff run, and then we're tweeting
this in 2023. I I think, I think the bills
have been saving him for the playoffs to like someone that
watches every minute of Weights Destin first, that's all I'm
trying to do was talking about having a shi shipping shown on.
She said, oh, I know, that's what I want to see what stuff
sweat is Steph. Let us know your silence.
Go down. I don't see is her name big Ty?
See I'm not sure or is it for the 500k because I'm in that
let's see. That was she said she was in
first 755 was that after the fumble recovery?
Yeah, three minutes ago. Is she hobo hobo hobos for 500K?
No, I think she's super shorter, right?
I don't know our username Steph, let us know.
Super shorty shorty. What is she in?
What's the contest right now? She's in fit.
She moved out. She's in fish, she said, what
does she need? What do you need Steph?
Basically what I'm going to do, I'm going to have Pat and Liam
speak in tongues, right? And they are going to manifest
as tell us it tells us who we need Steph.
Tell us who we need. Who is the guy you need,
anyways? Why we figure that out?
I think the bills have been saving James Cook for the
playoffs, you know, like they routinely have sink.
Like, I mean, maybe cook just cannot pass block, and that's
why singletary's in. But they like routinely flexed,
the Run In back to like the sidelines as like an outlet pass
and Singletary is it's not. It's like that's not his thing.
He like gets like two yards. Always.
All right, step up to third goes to have stuff.
What is the car? I thought you said you saw her
in your contest. I don't know.
What is she and DraftKings? Is she an underdog?
What is the big Draft Kings? I'm guessing super shorty is the
username, Liam. This tournament on drop?
No I don't know her that that's her name from the Discord.
I don't know how much see super shorty.
Someone drop a link in the chat. I'll pull it up.
If you have the, the game castling. 100K play-action.
She's okay with it. That's the big three dollars
with the big belly dollar. Yeah.
I'm not it never I would never condone that.
I was only playing Showdown double ups but I'm like
shout-out on my shelf I'm the one who knocks.
I'm the one who accepts I think I've received 100.
You know that they're knocking for you, if you Accepting his
opening. This pretty boy statement.
Great point is no your it's the opposite of the spirit of
statement if you post your knocking.
Um I do not, I do not need to post, you believe this, but he's
trying to do comedy. Now, he's a two million minutes,
he's trying to get you on your business.
I'm just genuinely confused because you said you're the one
who knocks but knocking would be, here's my, here's my games.
Here's the thing to a lot of people are sending me these
friend requests on driving. I don't, I'm not here to make
friends. I'm here to accept head-to-head.
I accepted it. John $50 things.
Not going well over on Underdog, buddy.
Um, how much action do you think you could get sent in a year of
accepting? And and like someone like
McLovin or whoever's not allowed to just like, post you infinite?
It's just, I've received 142 head-to-heads this week so far.
Are so I just don't know what's the like the biggest one.
What are you? I haven't gotten more than a
10-9. I haven't gotten more than 109.
No big boys have come out to play.
Stephanie has Captain Kirk Derrick Henry I think slots as
soon as opposed to be cilok Jegs DST Bulacan Hooper.
She said sack because she knows she has tags.
So what do you need? She I mean if the Titan scores
got to be like, Hooper, okay, someone link the the game cast
in here so I can pull this up, but Hooper, be good.
Oh, probably not. Because it would mean good
things for Dobbs and they'll probably Elevate other people
also be provoked. His friend request was he knows
you didn't want it. Thank you, thanks!
Paul, that is what your of Paul not here to fucking be friends,
dude. I'm here to flip a coin with you
and give DraftKings the rink. Like none bit, how do you feel
about your cash games yell? Well, dude, I tried to build a
DFS line up the other day. And I'm like, who's resting, who
I've not been plugged into, we Katie, here's the thing about a
shell is I don't like to get anchored just something on
Saturday night at 11 p.m. I'd rather have a few beverages
wake up and open my third eye early Sunday morning.
What, We really like, what's the, what's the, what's the
optimal construction, you know? Is it, you want me to give this,
obviously, Sim Howell? I mean, how cheapest a are you
punching a quarterback? If you're pundit quarterback,
you're playing Russ? Yeah.
How about you? Give us two of your like, want
plays in your local time. Between two of them to him.
I want place to of your wants and your like I do.
Here's a warrior. The guy I want to play Jonathan
Williams at 4300. But it might be wrong.
Another want play, I want to play Dallas Goddard at tight end
but it won't be wrong. Now, how much is he trying to
pay up? This is so, yeah, I need to
look. Wow.
I thought you haven't thought about rolling out at GPB.
That's great. Like, I don't want I don't want
to bother you guys ultimately, like, two minutes before, lock.
I'm just gonna rock your other one.
The Blended floor optimal and and just more optimal.
Well, you run a up. Come on.
Yeah, for October, that's how you get square in cash.
Yeah. Do you want a real phrase
acquire? You want a fun free Square?
Both 11. First I will go tell her.
Well guess we'll guess we'll go. Okay.
All right. Okay, to to tapes Josh down
inhaling hurts, That, that is it.
That's an interesting decision Point.
All right. Is it very seriously?
Tyler algier. So, that's okay.
I was gonna say Tyler. Algerian Kenneth Walker.
Okay. One is an actual free Square.
Aren't you? Worried that the Rams are going
to be motivated to try to shut the call.
You Walker's. Like 63.
Algiers 5600. Okay.
Here's the, here's the big decision Point.
Can you put yourself in cash? You play Drake one and in Tyler
out here together, that's what the cash game Grinders are
considering this week, huh? Falcon sounds like a bad idea
that sounds terrible. I would rather go without seeing
his 4900 this season, trying to figure out why the offense was.
I think you can was pretty good. I don't know, a 30 percent
Target share of 150 yards. Isn't that much ballgame there,
saying you guys stick to best of all.
Would you win? I'll fucking sick to cash games.
Hey, that's fair. That's fair Pete.
I've been played Step seemed site step.
What happened? I just saw the play.
WoW, damn, I feel bad for me too.
Because he had the 200 he was looking for but he might have
she went to bed. All right, Steph.
Let us know. Bated breath.
Waiting update. They're going to kneel T laws.
Going to lose like garbage on these Nils.
So don't get them. If you're only like a fraction
of a point up, you're going to lose like fractions of points
unfortunately. Hang on.
I just realized I can just be an adult and pull up this contest
myself. You can.
Yeah. Oh yeah you can go to live
contest. What did you guys think about
benching? Malik Willis there.
She had to, I mean, he was no, she said, hundred K, play
action, wrong wrong. And I think This was 250.
I don't really seem to just pull up contest.
I thought you had to be in it. Then what are your thoughts on
me? Malik will is man's dream.
Oh is that the game you love hundred hundred K play-action?
Right? Let's that's going to be it.
So she's tied for shortage and fifth.
Oh no, she's, she's done 96 Russell.
Leonard 7500 that 10K. Okay, for the top, come on
shorty. Wow, I didn't realize mad.
Dude, this Cristian Kirk one point off the bonus.
Although I think everyone in front of her house Kirk on the
captain. Yeah, look at this.
Randy bullet care need a little more in Austin, Hooper.
Hmm, could I use that on us in Hooper?
Catch on that last drive. This is a good time to say, send
me a head-to-head revert. ZZ Top.
I am trying to get a million and one dollars down this week so I
can become the other two million are here.
Little buzz it, King of the deposit deposit, 1 million
dollars in order to claim 2 million dollars would have to be
Calling winnings money. You put at risk.
I mean, I don't want to get in the logistics.
I've already painted silver. Just you know, someone I do, I
am going to have to go work on my shell a little bit, but
someone wanted to do a mitten draft.
I feel like, that'd be a fun video.
Don't start it yet. I gotta pee and grab a beer.
Yeah, I don't know what it's like to have a shout-out to
person who I was on stream with the same day.
I drafted by winning team. Later that night.
Wow. Yeah.
And I imagine that maybe, you know, I was drafted that that
team is in prep, trying to get ready for a pot.
Yeah, I did want to tell you as I know you Max the contest.
And I just wanted to say, if I had 150 lineups, which I did,
but I also would have won if I had your 150 lineup.
Ha ha. Well, that is true P.
You would have what upset about I've been a little distracted,
Liam speak. Pat our champion, bro.
Have you gotten any Twitter fights with randos that have
been you after all, I'm trying to stay above The Fray.
That way. What are you drinking there?
Liam. What do you got?
I got a longboard Island logger. It sounds good.
It's pretty good friend in the fridge for a while.
They run it out, dude. Dave Grand Showdown, dude.
Are you gamer? That's love that for you.
Hmm. All right, what's the plans?
What's up? Are you going to blast off next
year in these? I guess I so you talk me through
this. Okay so you win you get the
money in early early in the year in January.
So then any do I have to fire shots?
Do I have to take it in the ecosystem?
You don't need to fire right in January the contest.
Oh not now, but it's in the same year so it's like, you know,
might as well fire off. I don't know what's the Between
1.95 and to not a lot. But the difference between 3 & 2
is pretty big. I say, okay, I see, we're gonna
yeah, maybe, I maybe I take down 300K next year.
I'll be pretty nice pow. I think the real question is,
why haven't you sent me a head-to-head yet?
Ha ha ha. We why you were gone.
We're saying we're going to do a gauntlet draft and take Zeke in
the first round. Just kind of get a unique setup.
Well I think that's a great way to approach.
I've been already might have to have to carry the weight a
little bit because I'm I'm working on my cash game show
right now. Do I send you the $6.25?
Now? Yes, good.
Yes you should. Um, one thing Liam.
I never got to tell you because I was trying not to Mush it but
I don't know if you knew this but that's the team we drafted.
All I was widened that thing that team, dude, we got bad
beat. We were about to advance to the
semis. It was a Furrow double-stack
team and I was sweating it with these guys and I was going to be
like, I didn't want to break your heart.
Art and then when I realized we lost I was like fuck it but the
team we drafted on stream and then I went and checked Liam and
you had sent me the the money the the six dollars and fifty
cents for the team, we almost had a team in this Emmys that
probably would have had a chance at.
Are you telling me I'm $17.50 short for the 35 dollars in cash
right now? Fuck, that's a misstep.
Wow! Collect collect by Pat from Pat.
Pat is a kind of ran out all of this.
Okay, people who want to shit on this goodbye and pit bit you
know but not a bit it's a lot better than being offered a
piece of pizza, you know. Like imagine if you had if you
chopped up the 2 million dollar team and I was like, well, I
didn't give you, you know, love Justin, but I would be tight
about that. That was one of the all-time B,
the all-time B. It doesn't make a lot of sense
in these playoff drafts. Why the borough Chase stack is
like automatic? Like you can get that all the
time and it's hard to get the other ones.
All right. The Bengals are really
coin-flipping with the who, are we doing the three, quarterbacks
go first here. Either CMC Chaser burrow or dig
the me. Yeah.
If you take chase your dreams, who do you want?
Gretsch CM season easiest to build your own see him Yes,
Gauntlet 1 is 6. I like that.
Take I like the seems to pick. I looked at deal that is easy to
build it up and make sense. Yeah.
But you can either go pretty or you can just like back stack
with Herbert or Lawrence, do chaseborough with the turn looks
fun. Let's do that.
Well, that's why I'm saying is like, why is that?
Always gifted to someone, but you never get an allen dicks.
Like people to me, Kelsey's definitely the pick here, unless
you want to do help. Is the pick.
What what he's gonna be by does that he has a by.
So these can offset it, and we definitely want an a afci.
It's healthy, or Higgins, or McKinnon at least.
It's hard to stack Casey, right? No, we're taking it missed per
year. Our loan QB, it doesn't have to
be okay. It doesn't have to be.
We could go with like a Herbert or something.
As I start, I start like this, we can still pick like, you can
Onslaught an AFC team or in an NFC team of the non pretty
quarterback. So, the Chiefs are officially
the one seed, right? That's just they're the ones.
Who locked they got a win. Yeah, that is locked.
They want sorry. They won it is number one.
And if it's an AFC Championship with Buffalo or Bangles, they
played at a neutral site. Is that, is that what's
happening? Correct.
If the Begley win tomorrow, the Bengals have to win tomorrow to
make that true. You hang on, let me let me get
this straight. Jake you said yes, hopped on
that won't be true with the Bengals.
It will only be true if the Bills win tomorrow.
It won't be true with the Bangles at all Jake.
You're two hours late to the stream bud.
Roll back. So I think we probably the smart
move is to take either deep. Oh or kittel here.
I normally take Debo just for the ADP game.
But yeah. Well also mixing if you want to
do Bangles and Chiefs as the back stack slip angles were
already squeezed like we're resigned to like Tyler boy and
hearse there sure Debo season. So your guy like Tim.
Tebow's the easiest did they lean on him a lot last
postseason? They know he's Talent.
He's good. Now that's got your this year
but they're gonna lean on it. He's a guy.
I took two, which was like a leader for regression.
Like Stephanie's Point guys before they arise.
Some of us have been loading up on Jack's for weeks, sweating
big, win for my purse because what happens is the Jags.
And these teams when these fucking idiots snipe you on your
stacks and you're like, fuck it. I'll just drop for straight Jags
to in the draft. Like that's that's been the
safety net. But there's a difference between
Betting, the Jags will win. Sorry, we're on the clock and
and then them knowing it's a lock.
So it's definitely a little less is more it meant dude.
Um yeah you confident we can do Gabe Davis and James cook mini
if we want to do that with the Niners.
So we're playing a Niners bills or nine years Chiefs who's our
quarterback, Brock Purdy. And then we're going to throw in
like Alomar or Herbert. Here's a, here's why I take I
you here because there is this like squatter's rights element
here. Where if someone else gets By
uke, then they are also up for taking Purdy and then you can
find yourself in a day. There's only one other team that
needs a quarterback though or meeting the did hurt.
Either her panoz, have you done, you think people stop at one
quarterback in these Liam, he's gonna fucking rip to cubies
everywhere as someone that has their username.
Well-known. People just like tried to blow
up my stacks all the time. Yeah, I the Mahomes team takes
pretty like 40% of the time in my traps He's going.
He's going cousins though. Matt.
If you been drafting a lot of these.
Are you just like? Yeah.
What's the point out? Everyone to know?
Well, I was drafting a lot of them but like then you went to
my, I don't know man. Like you know, I like to be
dialed in. I like to think I'm dialed in.
I've got the edge and I just have not been dialed.
Yes, we fair at all. So yeah, I think my exposure on
the playoffs going to be pretty light.
I did five this week. I'm not.
I mean, what's the point? You know, it's Chuck.
Um, change. Now I'm going to be I'm going to
be doing the other PC play of contest so I think Eagles Eagles
charges. One of the most chalky builds
I've seen. It's so comfy to do, I've done
it multiple times. I've done it.
Two Eagles Chargers built very easy as the Eagles.
Hot prices changed it all. Yes you did.
You'd use for me and less you think?
Well, will you lose a kid? Oh, there's a kid over the side
of this who are their quarterbacks, look at the border
0 burrowing. Dak it.
This is a bad idea. Yeah, it takes trust the badge
because, dude, this less is more guys.
Taking pretty for the content equity.
And I'm just telling you right now, dude, I'm not going to
fucking tilt it. We'll also we could have gone
cooked better content if you take him with the second pick
because no one really should be taking pretty.
Okay. Is there any chance Garden?
It's been transported back wiglesworth.
I don't think so. Right?
Yeah, yeah. Is that each J Wigglesworth?
What's an HJ? You have to ask you can't afford
it. What's what's a ZJ?
All right, we lock up our QB here.
Yeah, let's get it. It's a pretty hot team.
This is run it back. Pre covid.
Super Bowl Chiefs Niners. So are we good?
We're good on niners, right? We probably want to tack on some
more. What do you think the field does
more? Do you think they build a lot
more? Only five people reach the Super
Bowl or do you think they build a lot more on slots?
So do you think I do a lot more, like 232?
You know, like that type of I think there's more mix and
matching from what I've I've seen.
Especially in the gauntlet I've because you have to onslaughts.
Yeah, not not necessarily because you want to, but because
you kind of have to. Yeah.
The Chiefs are an easy team. Don's lot, though, with the mvs
Hardman Tony run out. Because we can also take Pacheco
here if we want to just go down the third string, running back
to Rhode show I mean I think Rojo's live at the end of this
draft of this point, get that touchdown.
I got I'm also open to taking Lamar eventually but it did
Andrews go yeah, Andrews one so it's tough.
So yeah, just just do Pacheco like I think Pacheco but we're
basically saying we're going to be able to advance with just the
Niners right now. Well we can I think we can go
for another AFC team if we want. Yeah that we can even go further
and I was Jaws were just it's just an advanced player, right?
I like simple play that. It is just an advance but I'd
still like to leave yourself out for another Super Bowl matchup.
I believe the Jags and the Chargers are playing in the
playoffs. So one of the steel you'd want
to have one that wouldn't necessarily line up with Casey.
Yeah, yeah. So we said our jurors or the
Jags are guaranteed to set up Jags with each.
With each I let you down I like Jack silver case if the Jags do
wins the four seed you rubbing his to build things with an
open, re get me an ETA on those CMC.
I like this is in. You get a Jegs Casey shootout in
the second round I mean this I agree I agree with you.
Liam. But who are you taking their if
you're setting up Jacks we're just we're just going Trevor in
the in the past Crushers. Yeah I think that's fair.
Only because we had seen him. See?
Yeah, I agree. We still though like with the
flex you know with Pacheco on by, you know yeah we're still
and with what been stained. If, if Jags Chiefs are going to
meet that guarantees a team to the, to the County's, I wasn't
paying attention when we took the Chiefs third best running
back. I don't know what we were
thinking there may, wow, Tony's getting steamed up.
Um, I think Jack's Frontier out no more cheese. yeah, I'm
probably with you, so, unless you want to do like a Christian,
Watson has a Jones available For real?
Yeah. All of all of the Kirk went but
Jones and Ingram are available where do we go?
He went on the other side so yeah, just that we definitely
want to hit Trevor. Yeah, yeah, I don't mind doing,
but take up a spectre first. Yeah, I just yeah just take care
of her. I'm gonna take Trevor and then
we get up a schedule for sure yet.
One of these. Yeah, yeah.
In theory none of these guys would burrow and Dak should be
taking Trevor. This is like fun to you.
Other than, you know, the Chiefs there but right now I'm with you
Ben. If I could if we could swap
Pacheco for Tony, that's only because we took etn.
But or even if we went etn and then we got Kirk Yeah, more of a
Jags thing. Although no bullshit, Tony went
before Pacheco. Why didn't even notice well, are
you guys? I've I always go Ingram but I'm
open to either. I'm I'm in the room.
What are you doing? I've seen Ingram like game plan
for in the gym. Yeah, offense like a Jones is
coming to. It is a, I would be zet but it
sounds 321 was a jump smoked spice and fell through a window
with his brother, that's why you dropped him.
I mean, you just didn't spend my point for me, Bandit Bandit.
Um, you need to have a few more figures in your account balance
to be doing. Ro Jo B.
You know we're sub 4 figures in our hair.
So just to be fair, Pat's computer can't handle screen
share. So that's how he got out.
Don't drop him or I'll fire it up.
Yeah yeah they got let's see the screenshot.
Let's see the valance. Let's go you guys.
Yeah, on you. Did you win like a puppy much
then where did the 2K come from? Oh he shit.
What's crazy? They just show to end when
you're winning. They don't get.
All right guys I'm I don't see any demos coming through.
What's up guys? Here, I'm just the eggplant
Emoji right now. You think that's going to
withdraw or just let that chill. He's wrong that over.
We already discussed it but keep it in the ecosystem pads.
Good for the community. Yeah.
Pat, if you put two millions of pickles, you could have formal.
Oh we're up. Oh yeah, thanks.
How many people have told you? Yeah but it's not really to Mill
because of taxes. That does that like you?
I think it is a bit. Bye.
Like, I'd rather not hurt steam or great or chase.
Chase, chase is fun, but we're not going to get Borough.
Well, what if someone really going to go?
Borough T. Yes, everyone someone always
goes burrow. Yeah.
That's just bad for them to do without Chase.
Can't even get the one-on-one. Like, people just FYI for the
people out there, you should not be spite picking someone who
takes Chase because you wanted Borough.
That's not good for your team. I like her here are my feet.
Yeah. Now, Paul said he wanted us to
screenshot this, so we got it. We got it here.
Our eyes are down here, beautiful.
Well, Oh man. It was worth is back in the
draft. How are you?
Not reading this shit. There's what I was the first
retweet on that you guys come on.
You guys are following the show and you're not retweeting that
because the Lord Oh, we didn't get AJ Brown.
What a bummer. I like Higgins here.
Higgins are Smith, get the stack.
I like Higgins. Was who's got the inside guy,
shouldn't take Smith. Yeah, do we don't want to do?
We want to do an AFC guy here? I'm with Higgins or Eckler or
mechanical at the problem with Eckler, and tell me what you
think back and then we can take, the is just running back, is a
little bit more? No, I agree.
Liam, but there's, I mean, I've taken Eckler in The Gauntlet and
like, the fifth or sixth round. It's like ten drafts.
I did you bring what one pick before us?
Yeah, bullshit. Yeah, I agree.
I agree, Pete. There is a lot of cheap Eckler,
teams, Higgins. But back then people also were
like drafting Josh Allen. Not as a one-off you know, like
people are doing weird things back then that they aren't doing
today. Pickens regular running back is
hard. So either Eckler mixing or
Higgins. The fun thing about going with
the bangle stuff is, I do love taking perine light, perfect, I
like that. I've made a Modelo stack quad
quad Modelo sponsor. That's Should be you got to get
that next year. Oh, what?
A choose concert. I put you in a yes.
I quit. Did you say choo sponsor?
Yes, I quit chewing. Oh, you did you go, congrats,
man. That's actually big.
You guys have not seen me spit in a bottle once this entire
show laughs. Now like the no I'm chewing the
the nicker Nicorette gum and stuff right now pal.
Okay my friend JoJo good do good right now nice.
Yeah thank you. I'm always start mostly because
I got bronchitis and I was like this is not fucking helping so
it's like this a good time to quit.
Like I mean, you know, two things that you want to happen.
Not have bronchitis and also quit chewing Cannon kaleidoscope
I don't mix in, I would do James Cook knocks, I would do.
Let's just toss this guy fucking bills bone.
Dude, he's been just Champions with shouting bills, Wells being
in jail is right now. Yeah, yeah.
I mean that's fine. But you're eating another guy
without a by. Yeah.
But we got to get. You ready?
Knocks? We got to get the threads are
saying it to three. I'm cool Sanders to you should
be fucking Homer. What's this scene at Island?
Park going to be like tomorrow Liam electricity bills.
Put the bills in the queue. Dude, the bills are going to win
by a hundred tomorrow for their boy.
You kidding me so good. I almost fear for the Patriots,
You guys want to go James Cook? It's a little bit harder now
because we don't get a guarantee of a skilled guy we want, but Do
you take knocks and then guarantee one of the running
backs, we have no running back right now, so I will, you
promise? I would go.
I'm like confidently cook. All right, let's do Liam's.
Nuts on the table. James Cook.
Take. I should have block you for
saying it's a trap him for the pills.
Jesus fucking or even playing. I don't even know, Jacoby Myers.
It taekwon Thornton. Well, I think the bills have the
decision. They can lose on purpose and
play the Patriots in playoffs or win and potentially face the
Dolphins. Hmm.
However, they get it then they would get the three seed versus
the two so they would have to go to Cincinnati.
So they probably still want to win.
They say, when you also, the Dolphins might not make it
anyways, even if the Patriots lose Are we thinking about here?
Do we do a chest during this year, Pete?
No, because I got to demoralize and it was, I don't normally
suffer from anxiety, but when I did chest dreams, I did exactly
what my plan. Will I reach that one ever?
Wow. Doing chest streams for like 50
people watching. I love you.
Relax 280. Want to do it.
Trust me do knocks and it has to be Knox other.
That's very nice. Yeah.
But the intern guys got Alan. So we can, we can still build
out another a fc stack here. Or I mean perine definitely
should be a pic for us. Can you look at the inside team?
Who's the building? In soils.
Yeah, we get we can look at boy to yep.
I think he's gone. I think we should just grab
Herbert here and just lock up a quarterback points or real knots
on the wall plays. Yeah, is that they need as they
lose, but I know Liam likes to play basketball with the condom
on so well, we have no quarterbacks right now.
So what are you talking about? If the Eagles lose, we have
Jalen hurd's playing in round 10, you're saying, oh, the
Eagles lose to the Giants back up.
What's the pick? If we, I mean, What are we
doing? Open up, you endured I Liam and
Andrews. Grab Andrews then and we can
back stack. I like that better.
Or grab Kirk and we grab Trevor every team were drafted right
now. Better versions of these teams
have been drafted weeks ago when I was ripping guy, that doesn't
know it's you. That doesn't purely matter
though because the randomness of who you get placed with in the
playoff pods is way more in playoff contest that I feel like
you're half on their level because you have rather some of
these I'm fully not on their level but like I don't know what
the fuck you guys are talking about.
Like you doesn't that like you ever like a legit?
Like like thing down but also like normally I'm used to us all
shouting about who to take and then this some kind of constant
like but who do I click what do you want me to?
I forgot that this wasn't driving.
I've been talking to Pete. God has left to right the
newsletter and build out my cash game show.
This sucks. I still need to send you.
I'm trying to figure out how to make a head-to-head that I can
send you your it out, dude. What's your account?
Would you break my heart? Would you have done that if you
didn't win 2 mil? Or is this like a Pity bit now?
I was challenged on stream Peak chives.
I see my head to head on Twitter, multiple times.
He's dodging me, he's being in it.
He literally like sitting here just trying to enjoy my night
and then Pete's challenging me to head to head.
So, you know what, Pete, let's fucking go.
Let's go, let's go, I gotta send you.
I gotta figure out fucking cash game on.
He crashes the food pyramid, he's done enough tonight.
You think you baby. Thank you.
I don't drink that much anymore. I'm I'm on Modelo like a train,
I don't either. I do on these and I have to go
take care of a baby in a second. That's what's disgusting.
I got a random cat in my house. I was telling you guys this
room, what? Wait, wait.
This is a story for another moment.
This is a government never had pain my.
Let my name be ready for Week 1. It's why we just got to be not
he's not we just took Andrews though.
Just take perine to start take PR on to start the Josh.
A little fever is not going to take perine.
Quarterback in this bill. Are we trying to 100,000?
And I can take the Margo. He's got Josh now, you're trying
to build solo, Jalen hurts teams dude if they lose a fucking
course, who's outscoring, Jalen hurts on a week-to-week basis.
And the Giants are resting their starters.
Create you know who else also in the eagle?
No rocks win or they've hiked first.
The Cowboys and then they hung with them.
It's the fucking NFL, anything happens, no one thought the
Eagles would even be in this view is your third eye is wide
open and what a hundred thousand dollars you should.
Maybe try it. Sometime Liam.
Yeah. And I want to lock up.
Clear back point for round one. The gift table Brady, let Pat
Jerk It Off to Tom Brady. Again, I think Lamar, I think,
Lamar for the stack unless there's another we already have
Andrews fine. Yeah, I'm not just trying to
grab them are Giants are + 17. That is great, Pete would know
that he's grinding cash, but what was the?
What was the spread tonight? Some of us took Titans with the
points. Not me.
Oh my God, Go full screen. But this is our new.
No, no Go full screen. Oh, so tell us how you have a
gap. Where did you find this new guy?
He was ever seen him in our yard.
We've never ever. I'm a dog guy over a cat guy.
But look how cute this thing is insane.
That is really cute. It wasn't wildly cute.
Okay. Who's the who's the second
string running back again. You just on screen.
For who? The Eagles.
Oh, gain. Well, yeah.
I mean, for me, it's one of these for like, we have another.
So I feel like gain walls. Yeah.
I don't want to do gain well with this one, well, gain Wells
more for the negative correlation with Lamar.
I mean, now you want to open up your third eye?
No Sanders is more than negative correlation and gain.
Was the positive correlation with hurts.
You guys have already placed your balancing I like Jake.
It Dobbins best. But at Dobbins is my pick to
Hearst is second best. And I also like Qui-Gon, With
the three running backs. You still like yeah we fuck this
team up with Lamar. As Auto dress digging over going
to be the 1 seed, dude. Pat only as an investor only for
Gauntlet draft. So far with that balance, you
fucking nail poured back into the ecosystem.
Oh, sorry, man, I had some stuff going on auto driver, dude, but
fucking, my balance is draining now.
My balance is draining, like I think the first thing with like
if you win a ton of money, is the first question for anyone,
is what it, how are you going to spend it?
And the next question, like if anyone was ever put themselves
in that position is like what if I spent it all and pads?
Like know I did too many conflicts by balance is
draining. What am I gonna do with all this
money? Pat, what's your venmo?
Get out of here man. I will send your head though,
that's happier than me. Do not send me a memo.
I'm gonna be mad at you if you simply of info.
To not do it. They pat Curran on here.
Is it something that's a daily? Oh, there you are.
Oh nice. You have a picture of you and
Murphy. Although there were a lot of
connections between Pat and I my middle name.
Pat. My parents named.
Pat Murphy. My dog's name.
Your last name. My last name.
Murphy. Here, I will demo you once I
beat you in this head-to-head though.
So once you say, once you save this vendor, do you want to do
it off offline? Avoid the rake.
This shit, will he I will have to make a lineup now.
I was gonna, yes, oh, come on. There it is.
This is how you keep it above board.
Here, get the other than Mo Rich evening.
The Giants backups are beating the eagle.
Why aren't we just stacking the Giants?
If there's such a juggernaut, I didn't say they were a
juggernaut one of the first times I was like, One of the
first times I did a draft with you guys.
I said Pete money and he just sent it back.
He was like, all right, I do have to go, I
got to work on my shell, I gotta run the blender.
I got Optimum, we want this dream to last forever, but we do
have we had to have a place. We can you add At best fantasy
football player of 2022. Will do ha ha ha.
Yeah, it is it is the classic 11:45 heart out is, these are
not have Pat and all seriousness.
Absolutely incredible. That road.
Joe scored a touchdown today, it's unbelievable.
You know, we're all very proud of you.
Best moment of the day. Yeah.
It was it also was the best
moment of the day. Yeah.
I grant you any final words here, Modelo Tower.
Stray Cats. Thank you so much.
Yeah, Liam said you were the best of all drafter, 20, 20, 21
21. We will be back this week, for
some ffp, see playoff, content until then we love you.