Good evening. It is time for the final ship
cast of the 2024 season. We have had a very fun ride
these past, you know, 16 weeks. We got one more tonight, Seattle
in Chicago. We got some playoff sweats on
the line. We got some pick UMS dialed up.
I know a lot of you guys need some specific stuff tonight in
your best ball playoffs, etcetera.
So let's get it. I'm Pete with Pat and Gretch.
It's the final ship cat. It's the ship cat, the ship
cast, the ship cast. We got some fun pick em sweats
dialed up. You mix in a couple lowers there
to make sure people know you know ball.
All hires 'cause we know ball. You're going to lose anyway
probably, so just do the Peppers.
Scorcher watch, everyone. Scorcher watch.
Oh no. The pick EMS aren't hitting.
Look the. Other way you cock.
You guys want to make some more pick EMS back?
Baby, I'm officially invested there.
We. Go.
I just want to be clear, no one is asking you to watch the game.
We're just asking you to watch us.
All right, we are underway. Seahawks have the ball.
Pat broadcasting from locations unknown.
Gretch, how we doing? Good.
What? Where you at, Pat?
How you doing? You're muted.
Doesn't know how to work the mute button.
Still, we know that. I'm muted in your turn, yeah.
No. Yeah, a little bit it it it's
it's pretty bad. Once you start talking, I feel
like it gets better. But whenever you start, it's
like really clipped. All right, well, welcome to ship
guests. I'll mess with it is.
It is it pouring rain right now? Where were the weather Bros?
No, no one got me worried about rain earlier.
Ben noted it. Ben noted it earlier.
OK, yeah, it said that it would be a little off and on, but is
it pouring? I'm not seeing pouring, am I?
Am I missing it? I feel like I'm seeing a.
Ton of rain is this in all numbers look the same thing for
you Pete, because I I don't see any rain actually.
Really. I just saw a bunch of rain.
Oh, maybe I'm completely wrong. It was that's good for us who it
was Roth, Kevin Roth had something that was like, yeah,
zero weather issues like across the board this week.
Yeah, maybe I was just envisioning rain.
There are some raindrops. Thank you.
Some raindrops. All right, let's get the let's
get the core up here on the board.
We have two cores for tonight. We got a $400.00 giveaway if we
hit. They're very similar.
Basically just wanted to run the kind of the the directional
stuff we liked a couple different ways.
The first one we got via JSN receptions higher than 6 1/2,
getting a little plus money on that and then straight yards,
rushing yards for Charbonnay 71 1/2.
And then this rivals that we liked is Rome versus Noah fan
and we are giving up an 11 catch spot to Noah fan, but that seems
like a good spot. And then on the other core,
basically flipping yards versus rushing attempts for Zach
Charbonnet and then flipping receptions to receiving yards
for JSN. So that's what we're looking at
tonight. And we were talking about the
receptions and receiving our stuff for JSN.
One of the things I liked for the reception side was some of
the quick passing. He's got, you know, for a while
now. But I mentioned it's not
necessarily in every game plan already on tilt because the
first first play of the game, they did a quick pass to Tyler
Lockett. They haven't done that to him in
years. Like I mean, this guy doesn't
break tackles anymore. He's 90.
What are we doing throwing the JSN?
He was on the three sharps rushes already, which is nice.
I was on the the yard side of the JSN debate because I saw
this is probably the spot where the we're passing volume was a
little bit of a concern. Not a huge concern, but bears
have been a run funnel for most of the season.
Oh God. Their run defense sucks.
Who was that? Early no fan, that's why I'm
saying. Oh God, don't love.
That that's all right. We'll we'll have a doomsday outs
all game, which is. Nice game, yeah?
We talked about this one a lot and fan isn't going to have any.
I mean knock on wood, but ideally won't have any huge
plays or anything. A doomsday could have some big
plays fan had a big game last week, but I mean, but big game
by his standards. 3 catches for 50 yards, a few 15 yard catches,
which basically doesn't get those.
Now here he gets on the 1st Dr. he gets like a 14 yard catch.
But I think I mean I I still like our spot there anyway.
You were saying, Pat? Yeah, the the, the Bears just
are really bad against the run. They used to be really good
against the past. That's changed a bit.
The they're still better against the past than the run though.
And the Seahawks have been willing to pass, but mostly it's
been part of like them being down.
They're not like they haven't dictated the past their
opponents. So it's kind of like a setup
where you would expect them to be leaning on the run.
I think the other part of it being they're they're favored.
It's not a particularly high total game.
So I just was a little bit worried about the passing
volume. But JSN has been awesome.
The Bears defense has gotten steadily worse over the course
of the season and they've allowed big plays all year, so
could be a spot where even if we don't get a ton of receptions
because they're leaning on the run game, there's still some
nice plays through the year. Was what was the way I was
looking at? Kenny McIntosh smashing.
Yeah. Looking good, yeah.
Yeah, wow. Right up the gut.
Yeah, Pete, you found this a Doomsday Phant 1 and thought it
was AI mean. You thought it was.
I thought it was we we all thought it was a a fun a fun one
to play. What?
What were you thinking? You saw it on the Rivals top.
Yeah, it was actually they they adjusted it a little bit when I
first saw it. But yeah, I mean, same as you,
like, I mean, no fan's been at like average of 25 yards at most
all season and had the one spike last week and it seemed like his
number was a little artificially inflated because of that.
And then on the same time, we have seen Rome getting more and
more involved as the season progresses.
So yeah, I did like that spot. Back in here, Yeah, that was a
fun. That was definitely a fun one.
'Cause they use that AJ Barner, their second tight end, a good
amount fan. Yeah.
So he went 3 catches for 50 yards last week.
The four prior games he had three catches exactly in every
one of those and never went over 26 yards.
So this is a receiving yard number.
But like, you know, he usually catches about 3 balls and goes
for like, you know, 20 to 30 yards.
It's not and he started with 14 right away on the 1st drive, but
it's they use that second tight end and they obviously throw
mostly to DK and and JSN. So I mean, hopefully we're not
seeing like a A78 target fan game out of the blue.
That would be annoying. Do you guys have any any
individual rooting interests in this game for different?
Stuff. Pat and I are and and our buddy
Davis and our other buddy. How do I check?
The score on that league I can't figure out if.
Like how far? Apart we are, I honestly can't.
Check. So I I don't.
Know. It's.
Leonie does it in a spreadsheet.
It's. So the way that we do it.
Is five teams, it's a dynasty league.
Five teams make the like a Sprint style shootout weeks 15
to 17. And they add he also adds in
your average regular season, right.
So Davis had a little bit of a boost from the average regular
season stuff. He's had weaker scores in weeks
15 and 16. You I think have the most points
in 15 and 16. Bora a little bit behind me and
regular season score. So that adjustment has me
slightly ahead of you and you and Sean are like almost dead
even and then Davis is behind you guys, but we're all like 12
points apart going into week 17. It's literally like 12 points.
It's super. Sean, last week I've had two
good weeks in a row. Don absolutely smashed.
You've had two good weeks in a row.
But I think, I think I, I think I had the slightly the best week
last week and then Sean had the best week the week before that.
But I came in with lower points, as you were saying beforehand,
and Davis came out with the most points, but it's just choking it
away. Yeah, Davis is having a rough go
of it. It's kind of fun because it's
the four of us. Well, he won last year.
He he out tanked me in this league.
So this is my this is my, you know, reputation saver.
If I can pull it out this year. And my team is like, my team is
all banged up and like I have Stefan Diggs, Christian Kirk,
several other players that are hurt.
But it's a I've loved, I've I've like gotten super excited about
this team for the last like week or so because it does have some
of my favorite dudes that were on all my good teams, like
redraft teams this year, which were like it has Bucky and as
Chase Brown and as Trey McBride. And I'm just like, this is like,
yeah, fun one to, you know, it's a dynasty league where I got my
dudes on it. So it's a fun one.
Yeah. To root for Scott Xavier Worthy,
who I got a nice game out of yesterday.
So I think I'm, I don't think I'm favored because I also have
Nico Collins who didn't do anything, but I have Mahomes and
I have Mark Andrews. So I got off to a nice start
yesterday other than the Nico score.
Where's this spreadsheet you know?
I made my own my own. Spread.
Oh, wow. OK, where we're at, Can you?
Send me that basically though you can.
Just you can. Go to the league and go to live
scoring and you'll be able to see because we're we're like 7
points apart. You're five points behind me and
John's five points behind me. Davis is 7 points behind you
guys. That's basically it going in
Got. It got it.
OK, sounds like you guys need to commit Commission PD from
bbmdb.com special live sweat tracking just for your
individual dynasty league. There's a bunch of dudes in this
game, though. You have Swift on your team.
Sean has multiple. You can tell.
You can tell I haven't paid that close of attention to the
league. And then I have the under Swift,
yeah. Guy you're super into Shawn has
Gino, a couple other dudes. Davis has like all the random
guys, he has Lockett, Cole, Comet, like if any of those guys
score, it's going to be good for Davis.
So anyway. Any quarterbacks that we have
come because it's superplex. Shawn has Gino.
I don't think anyone has. Oh, OK, OK.
Do any of the hosts have BBM finals?
No. No, no.
We be talking about those. We almost did.
Hang on, look at the shot.
It is raining hard there. It's coming that time.
I feel like I was seeing crazy things.
Vindicated. No, I have my my rooting
interest tonight in the Chow Chow final.
I have Chardonnay. So that's that's my piece, my
only piece in this game, yeah. Let me see.
Liam has 2 finals teams in BBM. Wow.
One one of them is that the team that kept showing up on The Sims
last week that we looked at is very good.
Nice. Oh, that made it nice.
No Leonie had 6 semi finals teams and came up a little short
on a couple of them. Yeah, he had the tough sweat.
He was. He was mentioned to us where
because Leonie was really into Brian Thomas.
I remember all offsies. I remember doing the pods with
him. Like I, I mean, several people
were, but I felt like he was very consistently like this is a
dude that's a first round pick. All you know, all these things
is undervalued, like pretty much threw out.
But he got into a situation where in two of his pods he had
a shot to get there and he just didn't have Brian Thomas on
those teams and he got buried by Brian Thomas's touchdown.
That's just the that's the worst sweat where you're like, I have
him on one of my highest owned players.
I have him everywhere, but my best team doesn't have him and
then I get buried by him. It's like that fucking sucks.
So brutal. That's the whole thing too.
I mean, not to I'm sure we'll talk all offseason about it, but
the thing with huge player stands, like I kind of get it
across a portfolio, but like in a single contest, it's like you
just the way these the gauntlet is set up, it's like you could
be so fucking right. I mean, look at what happened
with the so many Barkley and Henry teams in week 14 and then
you're just wiped out. It's like I'm sure there's some
of those guys that had massive bags of that that got a few
teams through that might not even have those guys on it.
And it's like my big stand that I was, and now I don't even get
to root for those guys at the finals.
Yeah. Exactly, Doonsie.
So I I the puppy final and I have Jalen Hurts on the team and
Caleb. So actually that team pretty
badly needs Caleb and I've got Keenan and Rome on it as well.
So it's a. You got a, you got a Caleb
double stack on it. And I actually in commet too, so
it's bears triple on. That one, yeah.
There's triple in here. No Seattle bring back.
Blew it, kind of slowed that route down.
Make that play, buddy. Yeah.
Didn't say spin. Shout out to Eli in the chat.
Became a member, gifts some memberships.
He's, you know, whipping up some some karmic rundgood here with
his BBM final team. Yeah, Yeah, I it is like I was
realizing this today and Pat, I don't know if you like going
through the walkthrough like, but I was looking at the stuff
for the main slate with Battle Royale.
It is one of the grossest slates.
It's gross. Well, it's really gross.
Oh bad. Like it broke my spirits because
I'm like last week I was so excited to Max the BR and I'm
like I might put 50 entries in and just stop like it.
It is that ugly of a slate with how they spread out this entire
week. Yeah, I mean, the the
walkthrough decision for me is honestly going to be do I name
it after Saturday guy? Cuz cuz you know, normally it's
the it's the main slate, right? But I was just like a bit 2
slates. The Saturday slate's more fun.
There's actually some interesting plays there.
Something slate. It's like, yeah.
I I the moment that for me, like there's lots of moments when
you're looking at it, but it was, I was did my first drafts
and I was like, I like Jordan Addison, but when Jordan Addison
is the 18th pick off the board, I know it's a really rough
slate. Yeah, man.
Yeah. And there's lots of interesting
plays but that, but like you're saying, it's so spread out.
Yeah, yeah. You get to the.
No, like the full, like week 17 slate is is fun, but it's just
like this trickling aspect of it is is pretty brutal.
Totally. My only final is I did get one
in the Sprint final, but it was a Garrett Wilson team that is
not going to cash or I mean I think everyone makes money in
the Sprint finals. So it's going to make a little
bit of money but it's going to be like a min cash.
And then I was looking through this week and I did 10/10
marathon teams. I think only did 5 Sprint teams,
made one through 10 marathon teams.
Four are currently cashing. 5 right now are either in first or
second in their leagues. 4, maybe all, maybe all five are
currently cashing. I had like 10 teams.
I was looking at them and they're like the best fucking
teams I drafted because I actually took some early running
backs on these teams a little bit more frequently.
I was like, it's a marathon, I want to get some early points,
whatever. Like it doesn't matter if they
get hurt, they give me half of a season.
Like that's great, you know, and then I'll, I'll just still draft
my 0 RBRB guys late. But like, all my best fucking
builds are the marathon. Is that I wasn't.
I didn't put any entries into that contest.
Has the has first place been locked down for most of the
years they've been jockeying at the top of the leaderboard?
It's not something I've paid attention to until my other
teams fell apart. The I, I have to tell you that
finding good teams in the marathon was, well, no, well,
I'm looking at it right now. First place has a one point lead
over second and then OK, so let's 6 points over third, three
over 4th, one over 5th. It's all very close to the top
right. Now what do we do in Seattle?
But. Finding these teams in the
marathon, my response was I I never want to do a marathon
again because it was like, I mean, I just like I drafted, I
mean, it's cool, but like I drafted these ten teams and I
have some good teams here and I don't know, it's just like it's
tilting that they're not in a bigger tournament, you know,
some other kind of tournament like any other kind.
Of it's not my favorite tournament.
Well, and, and the bigger reason it's tilting, I guess for me is
because I do all the trips to the border, right?
And I do all my drafts and batches.
And when I was looking through, for example, these teams don't
have a lot of Rashi Rice. They do have a lot of JSN.
So this was one of the trips where I was taking a lot of rice
over JSN in my early trip, but I was talking about liking JSN as
well. This was one of the trips where
Rice's price had already risen. And then I started, I started
hammering JSN in the eighth. I didn't have to make that
choice anymore, right? And so then it's like, fuck
this. I, I only was doing about
bachelors, about like 50 teams while I was doing probably 10
marathons at once. And I took a high number of JSN
in this contest and it was like really effective.
But I want that in my BBM portfolio more.
You know, if I, I already don't get enough distribution in the
dates that I draft. So I, I mean, I, I just got to
do them in the big contest. That's going to be my strategy
next year and I didn't know if I was finished BBM, but I didn't
make the number of August trips that I wanted to.
I think I only did one in August because he gets so busy.
So I finished with 101 BBMS. I didn't Max it, which wasn't
really intentional. It's just I didn't make enough
trips and so I'll probably just start earlier.
Hammer more BBMS next year. Yeah, I have GSN in the mini
schnauzer too. I just realized as well.
Nice, yeah. Got Drake May on that team.
I got Drake made to a final guys there.
You go. But it's too many Max snapper
too. What was that throw man?
Just. Wide open in the.
Pocket wide open and he just. What the fuck was that?
Slow start to this game. Not great.
Bob Sharps had a nice little clutch there.
Pete, he's already got some. He's got some points for that
Chow Chow team. Yeah, Yeah.
I mean, I think I'm not, you know, with the way these.
Yeah, everyone understands how these finals work.
But it's like kind of this sick thing where you can't like, like
Sharps is gonna always have a good floor, you know, in a spot
like this. But it's just like, can he have
the ceiling? Like that game he had was was it
against San Francisco Cardinals? Yeah.
Where he rips off the bits like can we get, can we get some of
that? Yeah, yeah, that was sick.
That's one of those games where you're like, why didn't I see
that Chardonnay was such a smash and then like he doesn't do
anything for like 2 weeks, you know, like, oh, that's why I
didn't see it. There's there's been like a
couple weeks like that week where it was like the Gorendo
sharps week and then even last. And I'm thinking like BRADP, but
like JT and Chubo were both later round picks.
Like we've had like a stretch now of the kind of the the
slightly overlooked backs just absolutely smashing.
Yeah, Connor was like slightly overlooked in his weeks.
He was, yeah. And then he jumped up.
He went from like ADP 30 to ADP 10 after that week.
So all those facts are pretty similar, but.
He was gonna freaking destroy last week and then he got hurt
and he had another really huge game but left early, like left
in the third quarter. He's looked awesome every time
he's, you know, been fully healthy.
For sure. But Dunza, well, we do have a
Swift. Yeah, let me Swift, let me pull
up some. So we had the cores that we
showed you guys and then we ran a couple different expanded ones
here. So yeah, we have a 26 point hole
now that Rome needs to claw out of here.
For the two cores. We ran a sharps higher slider
rushing yards. These were just in the discord
for for those of you in there. And then we did a Keenan slide
with that. We did a JSN reception slide
paired with DeAndre Swift scrimmage yard slide.
We did. Then this one was kind of a
slide on the core, took the same core but slid JSN receiving
yards, slid Charbonnay rushing yards a bit.
And then there was one more we did here, or no, what did we do
so? That's a double yards one, which
is interesting because we have. Yes.
Yeah. So that's cool.
And then what's the DK1? Here's the DK1.
The DK 1 is very similar except just subbing out DK slide
instead of the JSN. Nice.
But we could really use some Rome.
What is the hope for for the Bears head coach?
Like what are what are we rooting for here to get them a
new in the future, next year, I mean.
I think we're just rooting for anything mildly inspiring
because they're a very, I mean, you guys know, I did the, the
George Mccaskey thing. They're a very old school
ownership group that has basically, just my understanding
is sort of passed off those types of hiring decisions to the
types of, you know, whatever it is, hiring advisory committees
and things that tend to just be really heavily influenced, I
think by the agents. And, and so you, you wind up
with a pool of retreads that are like, oh, this guy deserves
another chance, but he isn't actually deserving of another
chance by any means. You need to have to make these
good hires. You need to have the type of
ownership group that understands that like you're being pitched
on a bunch of retreads in a league where the retread hit
rate is, is very, very low. And it actually isn't a job
about experience, it's a job about dynamic thinking and
forward thinking in the league is evolving and innovation and
understanding. You do need to be moving
forward. You you can't be.
This guy was good 20 years ago but then struggled and then has
been out of coaching for 10 years.
Like that guy's fucked. I mean, it's just sort of the
way that it works anyway. I don't know.
The Bears ownership group is the one that's going to make that
distinction based on their hiring.
So I mean, for me it's like just literally anything.
I think people are talking about Ben Johnson, same division,
right? If they could get Ben Johnson in
there to work with, that would be.
Fucking awesome. Ben Johnson's kind of like he
comes pre loaded on in any coach conversation, right?
Yeah, you got to talk to Ben Johnson because he's he'd be a
win for anybody to get. But if it's not Ben Johnson,
like, do you think there's a chance they just bring back
Thomas Brown? I don't think, I would guess
not. That would be surprising.
OK, good. Cuz cuz the way you're talking
about the the ownership. He wasn't even the OC right?
He was the he got a promoted to OC.
From. Position coach like quarterback
coach after I think quarterback coach.
Yeah, yeah. I after he was like.
At the World on Fire. After Waldron was fired after
the Patriots game and then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then promoted again. If they have like one out or
something with him, maybe he would have forced his way in the
conversation. But like they have to their fan
base the thing and being like, OK, we had the whole new rookie
class come in. We kept the retreats and then
that didn't work and now they have to give some fresh meat of
being like, no, we're actually taking this rebuild series like
they got to give them some kind of.
Name. I haven't seen this from Bailey,
but he says Ben Johnson wanted the Bears job last year if it
became open, according to Breer, then every media insider has
said he wants that job this week.
I do think it's been confirmed that Ben Johnson was offered
jobs last year and basically was like the right job opening
wasn't there for him. And then he talked about it this
offseason and a little bit more when he was asked about that
because usually guys don't turn those things down.
And he was just like, you know, it doesn't have to be a perfect
situation, but I do want to be the right opportunity because
you don't, I mean, it's very level headed.
It's like you don't get a second chance.
I mean, some some guys get a second chance, some guys don't
right. Like you get you when you're a
head coach, you better step into the right spot.
And he knew he had some sway and he knew he was in a good spot.
He could go back to Detroit and have another good year and still
be, you know, on the top of a lot of lists.
He can kind of choose his opening.
I would think this would be appealing to him, right?
Coming into Chicago with Caleb Williams, you'd think.
Yeah. It's not very far to uproot his
family. Detroit's not far right, he
knows. Like the area and stuff I mean.
We got Aaron in the chat, he's two games behind the leader and
3rd for the Westgate Gold Super contest and they got Seattle -3
1/2 tonight so far. A lot of antacid per Geno drop
back. Averaging so far averaging 1
antacid per Geno drop back he was trying.
To wow you you speak typo. I was like.
Yeah, I did not. I was like, I can't.
No, no, you had another comment right after we wrote.
Averaging. All right, yeah, let's get some
Seattle gone. I was trying to make sense of it
too, and then I saw the other convent.
Wow sharps, that's mad. I thought he was dead there.
That was Kenny McIntosh. That was McIntosh.
All numbers look the same. They all look the same.
It is 25 and 26. To be fair, that is those are
almost the exact same. Macintosh was a guy that had
like a little bit of of interesting.
He's one of these like Kyroni type of like, well, he wasn't
athletic or. He had a great.
Pre season you guys. Might remember I was like I got
out on sharps like halfway through August because I was
like, it seems like it's going to clearly be Ken Walker, which
that part of it was fairly true early on, but Walker's been
banged up. But then I was also like, this
is concerning that the number three back is like looking
really good in pre season and has a little bit of a profile.
Instead, Sharps was like the best pick he could make because
he got several spot starts and was the absolute workhorse in
those spot starts. I mean, it was a a great call.
But Macintosh did look really good in the preseason.
He looks good, good. And whenever he's got the ball,
I mean, he looks like a player for sure.
All right, third and two, let's keep a drive alive.
Seattle, please. Gene is.
Uncomfortable. Yeah.
Oh no. Jess I we need to.
Get come on, we. Had.
One man, what a brutal start to this.
Game Gino had time there he just he could have gotten into
Charbonnay he. Was yeah, I thought, I thought
Charbonnay in the flat. He had him.
Yeah, Yeah, like went through his reads.
Charmini's available like. And then I thought Gino might be
able to run for it, but he probably would have gotten
stuck. There.
And OK, that's not, I thought that was on JSN.
You see that replay, Jason's extending toward the flat.
He's got the sideline, he's got the defender, he knows the
defenders behind him. The leverage is outside.
That throw has to be outside and he throws it back to the field
side. So JSN has to try to reach back
and catch that pass. I also didn't see Chardonnay's
route finish. I thought he was sitting in the
flat, but he kind of he he took it up as like a wheel route and
was no longer available. That behind the QB angle though,
JSN was open. If you just threw that to the
sideline, that was he had a lot of room.
JSN left him a lot of room. Like he wasn't breaking hard to
the sideline because he needed to leave some field.
And then right when Gino went to throw to him, he kind of was
like, I'm going towards the sideline.
This is where the throw is and he threw it like, I mean, you
just you can't mess back towards the field.
That could have been a pick if JSN didn't reach back and get to
it. I mean that was.
Sorry to our guy Jonathan who yesterday was one Kareem Hunt
rush attempt away for hitting a six leg pick em with sliders.
What is that a 200X there? Damn dude.
Jesus. Sorry.
That's crazy. That had to.
I mean, when did Pacheco leave the game too 'cause he was, he
was out for a bit. That's rough.
Let's get some of Dunze here.
Yes, please. Yeah, we need that.
Swift looking like Swift. Trev here said Gino was O and
seven on TNFI went to after we had talked, but just I haven't
done it a lot, but the NFL pro product, it's pretty fun.
And then they have some of their like AI matchups things and I
I'd never really looked at them, but I thought I would just like
read through them a little bit today.
And it was one of them was Geno Smith is 3 and 12 in his career
as a starter in primetime O and six on Thursday nights.
And I was like, oh shit. That's not good.
He's apparently pretty terrible in these night spots.
There's a bunch of just like random like keys to the game
that I think are all auto generated.
They have them for every game. There was some stuff about
Chicago's pressure rate that got me a little bit concerned about
sales pass game. And Pat, you were talking about
how they were going to want to run Seattle and they've ran
effectively. So I mean, we might, we might
start seeing. Although there was also one that
the Seahawks have had contact behind the line of scrimmage on
51.5% of their design carries and that's like, well, higher
than league average. Last year they were at 42.2%,
which was similar to league average.
That is what. Oh my God, just sales roam wide
open. That's a catch and run.
That's such a bad bro man. Did he want him to keep going?
Wide open. Seemed like after the play he
was he was pointing for Doomsday to keep running.
Yeah, I can see why he wanted him to, right.
He's got it's still high. It's still high.
Yeah, it's still really high. Yeah, it's still a high throw,
even if it's. Yeah.
But also, yeah, I mean, I don't know why Doomsday is not
continuing his route. That's kind of.
Yeah, I think that's probably more on a doomsday.
In terms of what? Yeah, it wasn't a good throw,
but it probably looks a lot worse because he didn't keep the
route going. Man, man, that's.
Fun. What an awful first quarter.
It's been brutal. Seattle had that first drive
where Sharps and Macintosh had a couple first downs and then has
there been a first down since then?
I. Don't.
Know one Chicago 1 maybe? Yeah, they gave, they gave one
to DJ Moore. Yeah, a little like quick throw
to him where he got like 10 yards on I think a first and 10
just converted to 1st and then but then they potted like right
after that. All right, there's ADK target
slower in the boom. He might be like the only him
and like Devo might be the only wide receivers who catch that
pass in their first instinct. Like every other wide receiver
tries to like make a Juke either inside and that DK just lowers
the shoulder. Try to tackle.
The whole like 4 yards out of it too.
You know it's just hammers though.
This is always indicative of what type of game we're in for
when they don't snap this and go to the second quarter.
I know. It's never a good sign.
Yeah, some of the chat just said sure looks like a Thursday game
after Christmas and yeah, kind of wishing took the under just
like on the game, you know, bet the under this is not looking
super. Exciting it is not.
The Seahawks have to win this game.
The Bears don't really care. The Seahawks were the, the dude
in the chat said they were, You know, he got him at -3 1/2.
They went to -4 when we were talking and I mentioned to you
guys they moved to -4 1/2. And then like a little later, I
fall back up on that because I was surprised just watching the
market movement, I saw they went to -5 at some places.
I think some of that is just that this purely this motivation
thing. I've never seen if there's data
on whether or not the motivation stuff is super meaningful for
actual results. But I also noticed the Rams are
meaningfully favored over like pretty heavily favored over the
Cardinals. There's 6 1/2 at home over the
Cardinals, who I think got eliminated last week.
And that also feels to me like a motivational line because the
Cardinals were road favorites in Carolina last week by like 4
points. And I thought the market was
giving the Cardinals a lot of credit last week and now they're
like 6 1/2 point dogs. I mean, it isn't in LA, but
anyway, I just think that's a fascinating.
I also think the Rams, the Rams seem like they're starting to
hit their stride a little bit. And the Cardinals, that was kind
of the Cardinals been so up and down and we're kind of like, oh,
the Cardinals are getting it together.
Defense is getting a little bit better against the pass, and
then they lose the Panthers and they're like, all right,
Cardinals go away. That's mainly part of it.
That did feel like a turning point game for the Cardinals.
That's I think a fairpoint. But this I mean this the
Seahawks, I think we're also sort of getting bet up because
it already felt, you know, the our our viewer there who who had
him at 3 1/2. I mean, even that as a road
favorite, more than three points.
You think about the home team getting points the the last two
weeks, Seattle was home underdogs to to Green Bay and
Minnesota and lost both those games.
Those were direct lines. They've been better.
I thought they were kind of disrespected by the market in
those two games. But a short week Rd. underdog of
more than a field goal is a meaningful number.
And then for that to move like a point and a half, the market was
pretty in on Seattle being able to win this game, which they
need to win. And I think the Rams have to
lose then that Arizona game and then it would come down to Week
18. The Seahawks and Rams play in
Week 18. So like the Seahawks aren't
people were talking like the Seahawks are out of it.
I saw a tweet earlier that said they're out of it.
Like they're at like 14%. They're not out of it.
It's 3 outcomes. You think about like a 5050
outcome. If you need two of them to
parlay, it's 7525 and you need three of them.
You now you're at 87 1/2 to 12 1/2 they're at.
That's basically what it is. It's like 86 to 14% or something
is what the what the numbers are on most of the models.
That seems like almost certain, but it's not.
It's 3 outcomes in Seattle has to win tonight.
The Rams have to get upset by the Cardinals and then Seattle
has to beat the the Rams, right, right.
That's that's that's a parlay of three outcomes.
But it's not impossible, right? 14% is not 0 is my point, right?
So it's not. Entirely dissimilar from our
core, yeah. It's not there you.
Go. It's got to look like.
You've been worried. You've been worried about the
results on our core wind back the math French just laid out.
That's like now that I do all the sliders on my core, you
know, these 40 to ones, I'm like, why am I not?
I mean, I'm on I'm on such a cold streak and it's like, well,
because you're expected to win this once at every 40 times.
All right, please pick up a first down.
Can we just get one drive continue?
Where does that lock it? He's not looking OK JSN got a
catch because lock it wasn't looking, so we'll take that.
Lock it was wide open at the top of the screen and Gino wanted to
go up there. He pumped it right there and
came back to JSN lock it. The corner turned him loose.
He was wide open between the the cover 2 corner and safety, but
he took like a really long time to do like this little
outbreaking route and then look back and she was like, I'm not I
can't throw it to you. You're not looking at me.
All right, sharps attempts. One has to be good.
So if it has to be. Good, yeah.
That one's thought on. I guess they both have 5
attempts. Jeez.
Pat's thought on the yards thing for JSN, if we still get a big
JSN play, that core could be, you know, meaningfully in play.
Let's go. They're not great.
They their past defense has gotten so much worse over the
course of the year. They look like they were an
elite defense early in the year. So I think we're still pretty
live for big plays. Yeah.
It would just be great if Caleb could have hit a doomsday on one
of those two. Wide open, man, it's so far.
Come on, where you guys at on Caleb with with the rookie year?
So hard man. At the beginning of the year,
like literally after week one, maybe after Week 2 on stealing
bananas, we were talking about how bad of a coaching job this
looked like and I was already calling for these guys jobs and
so they got fired at mid season. Here we go.
That's I. Think.
It's like I'm rooting for any. Offense.
Any offense? Yeah.
I just want the ball being moved.
I really don't care who it is right now.
So for most of the year, Pat, I didn't want to like double count
when I thought they did a really bad coaching job.
And then you have coaches, interim coaches trying to figure
it out in season and all that shit.
But I mean, he's also like not playing well.
He's missing throws, right? Like he's he looked much better
last week than he has in in several weeks.
But he has missed a lot of throws this year to open
receivers. He's bailing out of pockets.
He's learning bad habits. Or I mean, they need a coach
that can like that can coach like they need a Ben Johnson,
like an offensive mind that or somebody, I mean, like a date.
Dave Canalis is now thought of as a quarterback developer,
right? Like somebody like that would be
great. Obviously he's already spoken.
Yeah, almost seems like better fit maybe just because, I don't
know, he's more bakery than he is gothy.
You know, it's, it's kind of like a Baker thing where it's
like it's more about like, let's get some of this negative stuff
under control. Let's find, let's pick our spots
a little bit more to like have you make plays and then like,
let's build it around getting the ball out quickly.
That's right. A higher percentage of the time
off. You got to protect.
You know, you give you give a great scheme.
He executes the scheme perfectly.
Very much a pocket passer. Guy goes through his reads.
So not to say Ben Johnson couldn't do different stuff with
a different player, but that's where we've seen him accept.
That's a great point. The Baker thing is a really good
calm. And then I mean Caleb, the thing
about Caleb when you watch all of his games is he does have so
much more arm talent than even like a Baker who was the number
one picking his own right. But Caleb, the off platform
throws when he puts balls on like he can throw so.
The highs have been really high. Yeah.
He's not like he was breaking out early in the year.
It was like, all right, here we go.
This dude's a star. And then then he had this
horrible stretch after that. So yeah, he's going to be.
I agree. I mean, I think that they need
to just, this is like probably the most important coaching
decision that any team has to make.
It it really is the fact that they didn't make it last
offseason, I think was I mean that that makes this offseason
that much more important. But I I mean, that's it's
frustrating for me because we don't really know where Caleb
is, in part because they just kept on a coach that nobody
really believed and no one really thought Matt Abreflus was
the answer. And they brought in an offensive
coordinator, which again is that that type of hire where some.
The Beard was good. He definitely, he wants people
over at the Beard. Who's that?
Abreflus. He wants people to what?
Get his glow up with a beard. With a beard.
With his beard, remember he got he had his beard and and it was
like, oh shit, uberfluse. This is got a little style now.
I don't remember this at all, I missed it.
Uberfluse was one of like the generic guys where like you
couldn't pick him out of a lineup anyway.
Go ahead. Then he had a beard, and then he
was in the beard like he was a thing that was his.
He started dressing a little better.
He's like going to NBA games with Matt Lafleur.
Maddie Bruce Yes, I got to start reading GMC.
Sports this morning, man I. Was going to say how many what?
What is this from? Was this from watching coach
press conferences that you noticed this?
No, this is like just on social media, people are just like,
he's he's doing some stuff and it's kind of working.
Wow. He's like, you know, he's just
kind of like he was just like nameless, faceless guy.
Like I don't, I have no idea what Maddie Bruce looks like.
Like Zach Taylor was like this for me for like 5 years.
I was like, I couldn't tell you a single feature of Zach, Zach
Taylor. Like this?
No like do do him with the floor.
Wait, scroll back up. Wait.
Who's? Yeah, there you go.
There you go. Can you go back though?
OK, so that's. I get that.
Is this if you if you hit back? Is this top guy in the third
picture? Is that also Matt Eberfluse?
Oh my God, the third one. That's what I'm saying.
Beard. Was Big Mark Trespin this?
I know the third one. The Beard bought him an extra
year, at least, of coaching man. See, that's what I think of when
I think of Eberfluse. And now that you're talking
about the beard, I'm like, oh, I have seen him too.
When you said no one knows what Matt Eberfluse looks like, I was
like, I don't think I can pin him down in my head.
I think it feels like Mark Tressman is what all I can think
of. He.
He could shave and like, disappear into the crowd and
we'd never be able to find him again.
The beard did a you're right. Did a lot for this guy.
It changed a lot man. Like that, That's a good shot of
him right there. Yeah, yeah, go pre beard below
the The picture below is pre beard.
Yeah, no, he needed. It could be anybody.
That's why that's when I see that that's a real one.
That's a herd jerk. What are we talking about?
Is that No seriously, is that a rough go up in the headset?
A picture of him in the headset? No, no, one more up.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The the one where the on the on
the on the left there. That's a rough that's not Eva
Blues. How are these all the?
Same. Is it AB that has AB on it?
You know it says Eva Blues cleans on pass experience.
That's. He that looks like a like an 80
year old man that's. That's got to be somebody
different. Dude, I'm telling you the beard
did like literally saved this guy's job for at least a year.
No, it is. That's Maddie.
Yeah. Wow, wow.
Yeah, that is not flattering. So we've learned he should not
wear a hat, and he definitely needs to grow a beard.
Look at that one there on the left.
There was one where he was like pursing his lips when he was
jogging. Oh man, that's I mean that
you've blown my mind, Benjamin Button of Coaches, Luke says.
I'm getting accused of having face blindness in the chat.
It's true. Like with Matt Uklu specifically
when he doesn't have a beard. I couldn't tell you what he
looks. Like this is like ever since
I've been a kid in in in movies when they just like put on a
beard and glasses and you're like, OK, that's the real
person. Like that's that's not a
disguise. Like, what are we doing here,
guys? Like, how could you not tell
Superman is Clark Kent? This is absurd.
This is the first time in my life I've been like, all you got
to do is put a beard on somebody and they're a completely
different person. I don't.
That's not the same human being. That's crazy.
They just do a backwards pass in the end zone.
What are we doing, guys? They just did a swing pass.
The DJ Moore Award. Straight out of the Patriots
playbook. Right.
Doing the Patriots play was disastrous.
They had a chance to. Win so stupid, man.
Pat is. This, at least theirs was to the
right side, where if he waits long enough, the ball should be
coming forward. This is a right-hander throwing
out to his left that's going to be a backward pass most times.
Pat, is this an industry plant to get you to do a yeah, like a
plug here? Thanks, Andrew.
Go. For some play out basketball
tips, boy do I got a place for you Andrew.
Andrew, I'm so glad you you asked this authentically and
just out of the blue. This is the last walkthrough
that I'm doing for the year. Next week is just going to be a
ton of focus on playoff best ball.
Trying to do a bunch of YouTube content on it.
And yeah, just draft a bunch of teams here before concerts go
live in, you know what, 2 1/2 weeks.
So 3 weeks. I read that as like fantasy
playoffs as like a joke like oh, what can I do to make my my I'm
in the BBM final to to like to actually win.
What I need some tips on on on the playoff basketball?
The kind of room well. Actual playoff baseball.
I'm an idiot, yeah, but we would still ask you for those tips
because you, you somehow know how to run.
Run like the sun. Yeah, that is that is the
advice. Run us out as the sun.
Someone will do it. All right, here's Swift.
What do we have Swift with Pete? Because this is going to be a
good. Scrimmage yards 99 1/2.
But what's it paired with? JSN I believe.
Let me go over. Yeah.
JSN reception slider? I think that one, yes.
Oh great. We want like 10 catches for JSN
and Tyler Lockett already has four targets.
Yeah, somebody shoot me. Nine more to go.
Easy and. Oh my God dude, the call this.
Gave us such trash. That flag was.
That flag might be. Yeah, it might be like a
defenseless receiver situation. It might be 12 on the field.
Was Seattle trying to run somebody off 12 players on the
defense? Wow.
OK, so I think they actually. Ryan says.
I. Forgot I was watching the game
because I've been searching Everflu's glow up.
That's quite the glow up guys. Like what kind of glow up
actually changes the perception of you in the human mind?
Like I can't even. There's no connection between
you pre beard and post beard. It's true.
We only have swift with the JSN thing man correct?
We didn't like anything on the Bears when we were building.
Yeah. One thing I did like was Caleb
Williams sacks, but he hasn't taken a sack, has he?
Yeah, and it wasn't offered for us.
Yeah, it wasn't also. Offered Yeah, we we spent a lot
of time talking about something that was never in the menu and
never going to be an option. Well, they won the Leonard.
Williams over under half a sack that we could have done, but you
know, felt like a specific guy getting a sack who's not.
I mean, 7 sacks in the year, like I forgot how many
pressures, a pretty good amount of pressures.
But yeah, we're like trying to figure out.
I was like, did the interior guys timid sack Caleb or is it
the edges theory was just probably a little bit more the
edges because because he scrambles around so much.
But. I used to.
There was a few weeks where I'd log in every week to see if they
offered CJ Stroud Sack. There's your sack interior.
There's the sack. Who got it?
It's not. It's not Williams.
It's the student hall. Looks like yeah.
Definitely collapsing pocket sack.
Yeah, you wanted to put the William Sack in and I was down,
but it was it was even money which just did it.
Was And that's the thing, even money.
Was a little we did a little more research into it.
He he has seven sacks and 14 games.
But also because sometimes you just get the match up that you
can exploit. He has a game with 2 1/2 sacks,
a game with 2A, game with 1 1/2, and then a game with one.
He literally only has sacks in four out of 14 games despite
having 7 sacks in 14 games because he tends to actually get
multiple when he gets one. I think the higher or lower on
on 1/2 a sack like it really should have had some juice to
the higher but. Because what you said, there
were four games where he actually would have hit the
higher all. Season all season, yeah, this is
obviously A+ match up for it with Caleb and everything.
It does look like Williams has had two sacks.
The the graphic that popped up when he got sacked said 2 so I'm
not sure who had the other one but.
That one, I'm only seeing one in the box score.
OK, That one was a how it might have been the opposite.
It might have been that the Bears have sacked, you know,
twice. That's what sacked.
OK, that's what it shows. Yeah, OK, but Gino has two and
and Caleb has taken 1 and that one was a half sack for Draymond
Jones and Derek Hall. How about that?
What if he would have got a? Half sack, half sack.
And then you got to push on 1/2 sack bet that would be that's
frustrating. Yeah, it should have given us
point .25, point 25 higher .25. Then you take that higher.
Yeah, there he is. On, on Ronnie swallowing up.
There's a tackle for loss. Could have got a tackle for loss
on this win right now. God, Caleb.
Wow all. Right, moving the balls.
That looks like a Mahomes play minus fumbling the snap, but
everything out here. Everything else does do we have.
We don't have any fantasy points related stuff.
We just want yards. We don't.
For him, anywhere, for anybody, right?
Just. Always.
Yeah, No. There's no touchdown sweat here
for us. No.
You guys ready for some halftime unders?
Oh man. This game IS30 with three
minutes left in the half. This is a disaster.
It's just so bad. Oh Flag chucked it over Gerald
Evans head. He's missed that throw at least
five times this year to the right side up the sideline.
That one there was a safety over the top, but he's had multiple
dudes. It's been a doomsday.
It's been Keenan running up the sideline.
The cover 2 corner kind of cut him loose.
His safety is not there yet and he throws it that exact same way
to his right and he throws it high with velocity like it
doesn't have any arc to it. It's a freaking bullet, but a
guy would have to be two of him standing on top of each other to
have a chance to catch him. He's been like 5.
Times it's. Like it's not great.
It's like still rising as it like travels into the stands.
Right. Like, yeah, what?
What was the goal? Nowhere near where the guys that
can't even jump. He's like, all right,
incomplete. Yeah, So it's frustrating with
the like the throw away in a situation you really didn't need
to. What?
That's probably a good throw away there.
I mean, he's going to take a SEC for sure.
Yeah, that was a good throw away.
More might be injured yeah, there's Bailey.
You're right. Bailey's, I guess agree with me.
He said he hit it for the first time last week.
He did. I wrote about it in signals like
he finally fucking hit that throw one time they got ATD off
it, but I mean he's he's been brutal on that and they've had
it open like every week defenses are like go ahead.
Oh, that's a doon's eye, but it's a fucking.
Whore. Goddamn right.
So it's just so classic, dude, dude, every single rope.
Target is just fucking cursed it's so brutal.
Yeah. I mean, you'd have to say that's
a hold. Yeah, look at that's the kind of
on ground that's a. Fucking it's a great laser.
Perfect spiral, like you see that throw and you're like that
dude can obviously play. Yeah.
He just wanted us to have a little extra yards for a Dunze.
He just has to get better in the pocket.
Instead, they throw a screen, set up a field goal.
Rag doll. He needs to get better in the
pocket. That's a big thing.
Yeah. It's possible like he could be
kind of Darnoldy where like you just need like really, really
good protection. It's like he's, he's so
interested in scrambling around that you like need to kind of
like be like, no, no, you're going to be good.
You don't have to do that unless it's worst case and then you'll
go make plays. I don't know.
I like how we can use Arnold as a comp.
Though that's why I mean, the next, the next head coaching
hires is so important, like you were saying, because you got to
get somebody in there who understands the, the right
coaching points. And I think because I, I, I do
feel like some of these young Kiwis can learn the wrong
lessons and the wrong things and it can kind of derail their
career. I don't think that's going to
necessarily happen for Caleb, but I do think some of the
things that he's been doing this year are not strong for long
term. Like he needs to get somebody in
there who can be like, look, this is what we're going to
focus on. Here's the way that we're going
to do it. Like, again, Canalis has has
done with multiple quarterbacks and it's like we're going to the
way I was talking about it with Sean on a recent bananas.
The way I was, the analogy I was using is it's like a ship on, on
a, on a, on a course. And sometimes if you're a little
bit off course and the the good coaches are the ones that can
figure out the right way to just get them back on course, right?
Because it's not always simple to know what it is or what the
talking point is or how to how to reach the individual.
But if you can just get them back on course, then they're
good to go. But if you don't, they can veer
way the fuck off course and then wind up way down the wrong way.
And the really good ones sometimes don't even get off
course and you don't have to worry about them.
It doesn't come down to coaching.
So freaking good. They just understand it.
But some of these guys get a little off course.
Some of the Caleb stuff bailing out of the pockets so quick in
like clean pockets. It's like this guy has so much
talent, but it's it is a little bit problematic right now.
He does need someone to just kind of nudge him back.
Look, get through your progressions, do these things,
whatever the talking point is. But I think if they can get in
there, he could be at a really high level still.
So anyway, what about? What about Liam Cohen?
I don't mind. That the best.
One mentioned that in the chat earlier, yeah.
He's been good, He's been good. Again, kind of the Baker stuff.
I'm just Canales isn't going to be available, you know, unless
they fire him, but I don't think they will.
No they won't. I was looking at confidence.
Comes to my mind. He's like, yeah, yeah,
quarterback whisperer right now, right?
Like. Right.
But Cohen was with the Rams in 2022 and then Kentucky for a
year and then with the Bucks, right?
Interesting. What?
About Leo Murphy. I don't trust him.
About the sabotage scale, he'd he'd still be rooting for the
Bills. I I think you get higher by the
bears be rooting for the for the Bills.
Stuff you imagine they had like the fan controlled Football
League where the fans call the plays.
What if we had the best ball controlled Football League And
whoever wins BBM, you have a team.
You know Liam, you have been talking two teams because he'll
have won it twice by then and. The staff formations would be
pretty fun and it's also be a bunch of best ball players.
Liam's porting over rugby plays. Dude, I mean, if they if
gobblers right and they hire Cliff Kingsbury, I'm going to
I'm going to cry. I mean, I guess Kingsbury maybe
wouldn't be the very worst because everything in his
offense is so predicated and I'm like getting it out quick and
RPO and stuff. Happy with where he's at, right?
Yeah, I think he's happy with where he's at, but he could get
an offensive, he could get a head.
I don't. Think he's in a Kingsbury.
Would be a decent hire for where the Bears are now.
He would have been a really bad hire to begin with because
you're like locking in a low ceiling, but with Williams
struggling as a rookie. I think Kingsbury gives you a
floor. Like everything you're saying
about getting the ball out quickly.
And like his offenses are, they're always well designed in
the run game. This year has been pretty well
designed in the packs game with not a lot of weapons.
I mean, it's Mclaurin and nobody getting production at ertz.
Right. You're not like winning Super
Bowls with Kingsbury, I don't think, but.
But it it would not be what's best for Caleb's long term
development because he takes away the ability to actually do
the downfield passing and some of the things that could make
you great. Yeah, you're you're sacrificing
sealing for to avoid the worst floor outcomes.
Yeah. So it's not an ideal hire, but I
could. See, it's not the very worst
hire that could be. I mean, I wouldn't, I wouldn't
be completely out on the Bears if they hired Cliff Kingsbury, I
don't think. Me neither, but it would be
annoying. It wouldn't be exciting.
DK Metcalf's trying to get ejected, so this is great.
Doing a whole lot of pointing. Oh, he head butted.
He's he may actually get ejected.
He's done. And that.
Oh my God. And then another one.
Fuck. So that's 2.
I'm not listening. What?
What did he do? Does the play stand?
Is this it was after the play was over for sure.
Dead ball. OK, so there there are two fouls
on Metcalf, but it was it counted as its first towards
this qualification. I guess they happened.
At the there were two different types of.
That has to be the same type of penalty.
So it was two different types of unsportsmanlients or whatever.
One maybe was taunting, 1 was whatever contact of some kind.
Yeah, that makes sense. He's still John.
OH. My God, he's still trying to get
himself ejected. That's good.
They're all pointed at their heads with fires.
Like we're in your head, dude. That was the wrong thing to do,
though, because he's talked about that before, Metcalf, that
he does let people get in his heads and it seemed to like get
him to where he was. Like, you know what, you're
right. I got to, I got to shut up.
I got to, you know, I can't let these guys get in my head like
they're having too much fun with this.
What? And that was clock.
So the clock just bled down to two minutes and we just had a
solo shot of DK Metcalf. Like what?
What was going on with the clock there?
Here's DK Metcalf, Matt on the sideline I love.
I'm a homie in the chat. DK is such a fake tough guy.
Would not want him on my team. DK Metcalf is massive.
I don't think he's a fake tough guy.
That dude's big. I'm pretty sure he would happily
take off the helmet and square up with anyone who wanted.
With anybody, he's like, he's a tough, tough guy as far as what
I'm concerned. I mean what I can tell.
That seems like a safe bet. He's like trying to scrap every
single game. Like we were just talking
earlier. He caught a screen and he was
like, I'm trying to run you over.
Like I just want, I want to fight somebody.
So you think like, is it Mike McDonald just has family in town
and you know, told the in laws he'd be home by a certain time
tonight and just try not to create.
It's a disaster, man. Any strife at the household?
Why? Why can't we run a play there?
Got to get the two-minute warning 3/3 with the bears.
It's a priority. We don't ask for much around
here, but we certainly didn't ask for this.
We did not. What are you guys watching these
days? Any fun Any?
Any good shows tell you? I'm excited for Severance to
come back out. Yeah, that's gonna be fun.
That'll be dope. On on Apple, we've been watching
the second season of Shrinking. Nice, good, I watched a few
episodes. Of that first season, I thought
it was pretty good. I need to first season.
Was good. I couldn't remember what
happened in the first season, so I haven't gotten to the second
season yet. It's not like, I mean, yeah,
it's not much, not really a driven show.
You can just jump back in, right?
Oh yeah, yeah. It's more of it's basically just
like a sitcom, but I, yeah, I enjoy it.
I think the second season, the writing has even gotten a little
bit better. It's pretty funny.
Well, so I remember that like part of the first season is
obviously that is like his what the Jason Segel's character's
wife's passed away, right? And so he's like trying to date
again and stuff. Does he end up with like a
girlfriend or anything at the end of the first season?
No, and it's the second season is much less about him
specifically. They kind of really build out
the the second or the. Ensemble.
Storylines, yeah. Gotcha.
Like a lot more about his daughter, obviously.
Like the workplace stuff? Yeah, I've been seeing a lot of
tweets that Harrison Ford's really, really good in it so.
He is, yeah. Definitely something.
Oh my God, another fan. They just called the fan screen.
I mean that's the JSN play. They're doing it for everyone
but JSN not great. No, you're that fan Silo.
I've been watching Silo too. Our coach speak index buddies
watching it. Greg, that's a pretty good one.
That's another one. Is it good?
Second to your stuff, and it's a.
Silo OK, Silo had. I'm increasingly like nervous
when I start a show, you know, because I'm like, are you going
to pull? Like the the worry is it pulls
you in and then it's like not statsfying, you know.
So I got kind of vibes of like, the show's trying to do a thing,
but I don't know if it's going to land the thing, you know,
that's it was like literally like 10 minutes of it and I was
like. Those those things still exist
in season 2. I will say that season 2 is like
expanded off of season 1. Season 1 came to kind of a
logical stopping point, kind of like what we're hoping for
Severance, like Severance kind of came to a logical stopping
point, but then you kind of needed to expand and they have
expanded and I think the season 2 storylines so far, I'm
intrigued to see how that now meshes back together and
everything, you know. So anyway, it's the fan stuff.
This is, this is, it's it's. Really hilarious to take.
What? I wanted to take the fan just
getting bigger, lower. I'm just getting fucking buried
by Fiat. JSN.
One time there's DK. You should be out of the game
right now. Yeah, touching a ball.
You should have with the with the doomsday thing.
We probably need him more than anything.
And I'd bet the house Max on this drive in being in a field
goal, too. Can we get that?
I would like to double down. Gino, we're not running
anywhere. This is a time out.
They might just take this down. I'll let cold time out.
Where? This, I mean 10 is probably his
fans best half of the year. I, I, I think it may very well
be fans best. Half Oh he he has more yards.
It's his best game of the year in in 1/2.
He has more points than he did I think last week, right?
He's at 51 yards receiving. He's at 51.
Yes. No, he's at.
He's at 40. Then there's the.
Adjustment 40I was including the he he got spotted, but yeah.
But he's definitely he's he's he's going off for no effect
right now. This is brutal.
And I mean, two of them were just those last two in the
two-minute drill underneath passes.
When the Bears are in a soft shell, it's like all right,
cool, throw those to JSN, it's always JSN.
Well, the good news is we get to make more pick UMS at halftime.
And at that time, we're going to pick one that wins.
Yeah, we. Yeah.
What are we thinking? What are you guys thinking?
I can pull, I can. Pull it up.
Yeah, let's start. I'm down for the higher on 32
charbonnet attempts. What's it?
What's it at? Let me see.
Are they giving us any Kenny McIntosh that?
Would be Kool-aid Mckinn St. They normally for some reason
don't give back up running backs for the second-half stuff, yeah.
They hate it. So sharps rushing attempts, they
have a 8, so they have him just getting the exact same amount or
averaging another eight in the second-half, 15.
Which is, I mean, it feels a little tough because Macintosh
has gotten 5 and there's the possibility that Seattle just
kind of goes pretty pass heavy. Grubs done that in a lot of
games. They also might get another one
here as they as they set up the field goal.
You might not a joke, just set up a field goal, yeah.
They're going to say they're going to center it.
We could just do like 2 touchdown things I mean.
Yeah, I think the touchdown ones are kind of because, I mean,
that's really the only thing we can get a multiple on anyways.
Like Metcalf and DJ Moore to both score in the second-half,
something fun happened. There it is.
You just got it. I told you.
Literally just happened. Yeah, man.
They ran to set up a field goal, got 1 yard and had to use their
second time out. Oh, they'll just let the clock
run. They're gonna use the second
time out. This is.
Why don't we take the higher on? This insane and this?
Can't be an easy thick in the rain either from this distance.
What? What can you predict?
This game is think of the stupidest thing that could
happen and then assume it will. They just ran the ball, ran the
clock all the way down to 27 seconds because it was third
down and they like don't think they can get the first down and
then use their time out at 27. That was the dumbest fucking
thing you could have told me they would have done coming.
Not just running it, but running it and then running on the clock
out. I mean, I know you said house
backs for all the money, but Jesus they I've never seen a
team less interested in using their three timeouts effectively
to try and score a touchdown before half that.
Was a lot of Patriots snaps this year and this.
I'm getting some strong Patriots vibes from those teams.
This strong outs. They're they're desperate.
They're desperate to get to 9 points.
They just want to kick a couple more field goals and go home.
That was eat some crispy. Candy fucking doing.
No fan target batted down. I'm so angry right now, yeah.
I I hope to God he Shanks this in the rain.
Pretty deserved. I mean they ran that to run
clock so the bears wouldn't get a drive coming back.
Which dude just go score a touchdown.
What the fuck are you doing? Let's get in a fair D order.
Look like they're able to go like 50 yards in 35 seconds.
Right, Ivy. And now you had to settle for a
super long kick in the rain like you're saying.
I kind of hope he Shanks it too and then you're going to give
him great field position if he does.
Oh, he's here for the Shank. Yeah, that you got to.
These coaches have to be punished for the.
This would be beautiful. Cowardice.
Oh, he drilled it. Shank it.
Oh, he. Drilled it.
When you know you got a kicker like that, you just like to run
the clock down and take take those kicks.
So did the Charbonnay higher go up?
Let's see, they still have it. They they're refreshing the
card, right? Yeah, can we take a lower on the
total score I'm? Going to go ahead and allow this
from Jay. This game is.
Not that's a good one. I'm.
Going to allow it. Allow it.
That's pretty good. That's good by Jared.
All right, what do we got? Now just we just got to wait
until after this. I mean, are there guys that we
want to be in on? Let's brainstorm some angles.
How about that? Let's go macro before we go.
Mike well, we could. We could do the Geno rushing
overs is a bit on Neil Downs. Let's see him say again not.
Going to be 9 to six, it's going to be.
Sharp, Sharp's TD before the game was .86 and it's up to
1.28. So you're getting plus money on
on the tuddy there. But we do have two less quarters
now. These.
And knowledge of what this game looks like.
Yes, guys, how many plays do you think the Bears have run in this
game? 14 it's. 23 but 101 total yards.
This is so bad. The Seahawks are up to 178 total
yards, but I mean basically all on that drive.
But yeah, the Bears have 101 yards.
This is so bad. 23 for this. I think Caleb's got to throw in
the second-half. I think I would want to do like
a Keenan thing I. Honestly, I think it has to be
targets. I can't even, I can't sweat on
target throws from this guy right now.
They're not training and. Targets in the lobby.
Give us Steve's targets, underdog.
I'll take the over on targets for pretty much anyone.
They just ran it and then called the time out.
Fucking Bears. The Seahawks were worried about
this team going and scoring and their decision was we're going
to run the ball and call a time out when we get 8 yards.
This is like, you know how in Southern California, when it
rains and no one knows how to drive anymore, it's like there's
a little bit of rain and no one knows how to call plays anymore.
It's just like we decided not to play football because there's a
little bit of rain. It's.
Not even cold. It's like 45.
It's not like it's 20 degrees and their brains are frozen.
I mean it's like a normal. They're wet, dude.
Have we seen Brown look like he's in a slicker of some kind?
He look prepared. Yeah, this is not Shane.
Sean McVay is wet. What about GRUB?
GRUB. Grub came from Washington.
There's Leonard Williams, Sack went.
Over. The one don't worry, it was
going to be included in ADK Metcalf slider that has no
chance in hitting so it's. It's that's right.
That's right. That's right.
Still, what a way. I wish all we played was the
sack angle at this point. A sack, a sack and charbonnet
and I don't know what what we're supposed to do on the bear side
the Swift 1 might hit. Do we have sacks at halftime?
Caleb Williams over sacks. Now they're.
Interception. They're giving you interception.
I don't think they tend to give sex.
Remember, we wanted Jameis Sacks and then we had to take his
interception, which he then threw, you know?
What do you guys think about that longest completion?
What is it like 3 yards? 2027, 1/2.
I don't know, I mean. I guess the weather has been
kind of spooked on that, yeah. They have aired a few out
downfield and like he's had a doomsday wide open a couple
times. He has.
Yeah, that's true. I have 30 yard completion in
this game. Feels like it's got to happen at
some point, but maybe it'll just be another shitty half.
Well, how about this? You play Rome.
Longest reception, It's at 13 1/2.
I'm not. I like that, he said.
I like that. If we're going to play, yeah,
that, that's a. Better than.
Yeah, definitely do that with. Can you do that with like Caleb
over yards or is that too correlated?
I mean, no, you probably that is then we need Caleb to go over
yards. That's a big amount for.
Him, probably. That is the bat.
Well, if he's already completing at least one bat for 15 yards,
20 yards, I was thinking that that was like a good chunk of
it. It's like 110 more.
This seems light, right? It's a lot more 15 1/2 rushing
attempts for sharps and he's. At 9, give me that.
We got the free one. It was 15 1/2 and then he got
took one more, didn't go up. I love that one.
It is at .9, so this is only a 2.7.
But you want. Should we put this in?
Sure. I mean, let's try to win
something tonight. Can we do this with a touchdown
on it or get a little? We'll do this first before the
whole this. Starts.
Taking it and then we lose our all our numbers.
Yeah, yeah, throw a. Touchdown.
Let's add a Tony on it. OK, let me see.
I'm trying to put the I I was trying to put it in and I had
something else on my clipboard so I was copying and pasting
show notes from a different YouTube video.
My bad. That's.
Amazing. Here we go, it is.
I did get it in but we need to add.
Let's add a TD to this to make it fun.
Yeah, Metcalf Keenan. Yeah, Keenan's a good one.
He gets he like is has a legit red zone role.
I mean, don't we feel do who do we feel better about?
Do we feel better about Seattle scoring a touchdown?
I. Don't know.
Yeah, I. Think I think I do.
I think I feel better about Seattle scoring.
Yeah, dude, do you want to do Metcalf?
Sure, I'd be down for Metcalf. I'd be down for James Center.
Who are you thinking, Pete? No, yeah, I was, I was torn.
Well, we're going to use Sharp's rushing attempts because that
does seem like something we. I mean, he's going to have 7
rushing attempts. They.
Have the lead now. We could what, what we could do
is we could. We could cycle this a couple.
We could do. We could cycle a couple
different tuddies here. Yeah, that that sounds fun.
The only thing with the rushing attempts is.
Macintosh has five and has been much more effective yards per
carry so far. I mean, sharps has been good
too, so. But I'm just like, I mean, Kenny
Macintosh can, they can each do exactly what they just did.
And I think they would be expected to even run more in the
second-half the way this game is going.
They may not run as many plays. We don't have to build the boat
out of this, but I'm. Just yeah.
No, no, no. I what's?
The we could do the sharps touchdown and pivot to something
else if you wanted to get a sharps touchdown.
Let's do this one with the Metcalf TD too.
OK, I like. This OK, get a little on that
too and. Then we want to do a JSNTD.
Yeah, honestly I completely agree.
We we have to put a Noah fan TD. Yeah, let's put pants in.
That actually pays well. I mean, if we're going to get
buried. By that, well, fans, receiving
yards is only 10. We're just going to go.
I like that. Let's do it.
Yeah, let's say, cuz the whole point was to get a good a better
multiplier on this. All right, we'll, we'll we'll
cycle 320 fives on the the pass catcher scoring at TD is locked,
but I can't do lock it. That's where I draw the line.
No, no lock. It can you do fant yards,
though. It's only 11 yards.
He's getting all these targets. We could do, we could do this
like a different, we could do like a faint yards, Keenan,
Keenan, Keenan touchdown maybe or Keenan something else.
Don't have to be touched down. Keenan Cuddy.
I mean Keenan. Receptionist, you know, needs
three more. Yeah, there's.
One catch and they've got them at three and a.
Half, yeah, it's just low. It's a, it's a .84, so we got
another 2.52. It's just.
Like we got to throw a TD on that.
I'd rather just, yeah. Yeah, you don't have to do that.
You want it, you want it. How about we do like Keenan and
like Sharps TD on? We could do a Keenan TD with
Caleb passing yards because then we're saying they're going to
move the ball under scoring range, right?
Or or swift total yards. I like the Charlotte TD idea.
We can just throw TD like the touchdowns.
That sounds fun. Do you Pat?
Do you? I like that.
Do you like the? Idea I'd be down to.
I'd be down to run it with the Caleb.
This is already 20X. Yeah.
No, I mean, this is fine. There could be a turnover or
something if they get, if Chicago scores a TD, they've
moved the ball meaningfully. You know, it's sort of the.
Yeah, so. Like here.
Let's just run it. Let's just run it twice, once
with. With the Caleb, yeah.
I don't know. I mean, it doesn't have to be
killed. It could be swift or whatever,
like however you want to do the yards, but it could
theoretically be a long TD and then you have.
That makes sense. Yeah, Yeah, it's correlated.
He had a 45 yard TD last. Wakes up in the second-half a
lot that that's like he generally needs to be pushed,
but he will wake up if he is pushed sometimes.
All right, we just took a bunch more hires in the worst first
half game of all time. We took zero lowers.
This is going about how you would have expected.
Yeah. Last.
Show hey guys, why don't you think about taking a lower?
Nope, we're just going to jam this like it's a 4540 game in
half. Well, that's the ultimate fish
move is then you take the lowers right when both of the teams are
then right, finally picking it up to throw, and then you just
hate yourself two ways. You're not supposed.
To hating yourself one way. We are not fish, we no ball.
So that's I mean, as can be seen from our sweat so far tonight,
we're locked in. Pete, what are we playing for?
If one of the chorus hits tonight, what is it?
What is our giveaway? 404 hundred 400 last 400.
Can we give that away if one of the half times one hits?
I think so. Yeah, there you go, the chats
back alive. If we see any string of
consecutive green dots in our account, we can give it away.
There it is. That's a whole bunch of things.
We just did like 3 different things on Seattle touchdowns, so
we got to go back to rooting for things to happen, which is fun.
Who gets the ball? Bears.
Bears, I should think. Yeah.
Bears. Bears.
I didn't get the ball, Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, with Sharps running the ball to start the game and Tyler
Lockett catching that pass. What's with all these?
Like those are fake fireworks, right?
Yeah. Right.
They've done that like four times.
They're pretty proud of themselves.
Yeah, pass to the NFC West title.
I think Donald is very like football guy.
You just see him and a still and you're like, yeah, that guy's a
head coach. The real intense dude thinking.
About dude that's interesting, I didn't realize what they just
showed was. I believe the way I read that
was that this game doesn't actually matter for Seattle
against Chicago here it said the paths to win the title.
One of them was the Rams lose and then the Seahawks beat the
Rams. I was saying it was 3 outcomes.
Seattle. Is no, I think.
I think it, I think it is because how could it be that
they can lose and they need the Rams to lose, You know what I
mean? Like they they have to win and
then the Rams lose, I think. The way though it could be is
division tiebreaker. So they're game behind the Rams
and then they would wind up tied with them and they would they
they would split the head to head because the Rams won in
Seattle in that overtime game earlier.
But then the second tiebreaker I'm pretty sure is division
record, which if they beat the Cardinals, I think that's it'll
push it to strength of win and the Rams are likely to win that
one, which I've heard that strength of win thing, the Rams
can can clench that. But if they lose to the
Cardinals, it must be that an earlier tiebreaker goes to
Seattle, which would be division record instead of them division
record. It must be that Seattle would
then have the better division record, so then it won't matter
if they tie. Seattle will have the tiebreaker
at that point. So this game I think doesn't
matter to Seattle, which I did not realize.
I think it does. I think it does.
I'm looking at the thing now. It's it's seems, contingent on
them winning this week. Because if they didn't, yeah.
What is the current record? Let me see.
Historical anomalies asking will there be ship chasing with no
ship cast or not until the playoff contest?
Yeah, we'll have to figure out if we have a plan for next week.
I believe in previous years we've done it a little
celebration show for people who in the community took down
tournaments or whatnot. So if if we can cook something
up along those lines, we could do that.
But then otherwise, the week after will obviously be playoff
challenge week, and we generally have 3 or 4 shows for that.
So yeah, we'll get that scheduled.
But yeah, we'll keep you posted about next week.
Yeah, I'm excited for Playoff Challenge week.
What's up, Steph? Not much guys.
How's it going? Welcome to the ship, cast
funeral, you know, help yourself to some more d'oeuvres, pay your
respects, you know, whatever you need to do.
I mean, I I followed the pickups, isn't that enough?
Low blow, that was. Low blow.
Hopefully we hit something here. Amen.
What What tell us about your
your Week 17 basketball sweats? Well, after, I don't know, did
you guys, I had a pretty, pretty brutal heartbreak.
I don't know if you saw the detail.
Of my. By .7 to advance the BBM.
So after after a chain had that long touchdown run, I moved into
first. I was excited.
That lasted for about two minutes.
Not even Debo had a long catch and the guy behind me passed me
by a point. So I had, Oh my gosh, I had
Ezekiel Elliott and I had Ferguson and I had Jaden Reed
left and all they had to do was beat 9.2 and get a basically a.
Point. How many did Zeke have?
He had the six. Right.
He got close. I was like, Oh my God.
Yeah. And he was like 2 points away
from, like, helping me. And so, you know, then I was
like, OK, that's actually like very doable for Reed.
You know, I'm like, that's yeah. And if he hadn't slowed down, I
think to like, you know, if that throw is better, he would have
probably gotten those extra yards or gotten in the end zone
and. Yeah, it was pretty.
Brutal. Sorry to hear that.
But I have a puppy too. Sweat.
I do have a puppy too. Final team.
There you go. So nobody from this game is in
my lineup. Congratulations.
Well, except I have Nico Collins.
Not congratulations. Who was my best leverage piece?
Yeah. So yeah, the Nico, the Nico
stuff, I wrote it up for the Fantasy Life newsletter this
morning where I was just looking at all the scores and I was
like, holy shit, a lot of those were were disappointing
yesterday. Yeah.
Yeah, they're. Coming out passing here and he
ran for a yard. I mean, this game is kind of
reminding me of watching the Texans last night.
You know it. It was brutal.
What? But it's this is like answers
the question. What if both teams were the
Texans? Yeah, exactly.
But what can we? Couldn't they built in the
ratings? That'd be more fun.
Well, not if you don't. If you fitted Derrick Henry on
both of them. Well, sure.
Well, we did sit Gino tonight for our high stakes boys.
So we did look like to have made the right decision there.
Yeah, people were asking about FFPC.
We have our team going with with Lawrence AKA Serum.
We've had some some rough start sit decisions throughout the
Sprint, namely revolving around Taje Spears.
So this week I, I know I felt bad he wanted to play.
I'm like, we're putting him in for the last time because he
talking you out of it and he's been right every week.
So yeah, so we're we sat Jalen Warren instead.
But I mean, hopefully, you know, we don't have anybody that's
played yet. So this week could be a big
week. Is, is there a team?
I haven't, I haven't even looked at the leaderboard.
Is there a team running away with it?
Steph. There wasn't, but I know one of
the teams that was before the game started this week that was
in second place and it was pretty close to the 1st place
team I think is friends of the Go Bills guys.
Yeah, show percent on ADP chasing.
Yeah, it's another Bills team, Bills fans team, but they're
not, not the go Bills guys, but yeah.
But they're casual players, they're not like normal like
hardcore fantasy players, is my. So now the Go Bills guy have
their own tree. Yeah, they have.
A tree, I guess. They got a tree.
Incredible.
I was scrolling up through the chat and there are a few people
that were like, you're an idiot. Have you been looking at the TV?
The Seahawks have to win. So then I actually researched it
and I this isn't for you Pat, Cuz you're like, I think, and
they were like really confident. I just want to tell them that
they're fucking idiots cuz I love to do that.
They do not have to win unless the strength of victory thing
comes into play, which is almost certainly not going to.
It's 3.5 wins among five teams over the final two weeks.
So there's 10 games and those five teams include the Vikings,
Bills, Niners, or six teams, Commanders, Bengals, Browns.
If those teams combine for four wins over the final two weeks,
then the strength of victory is going to go to the Rams.
But so in that scenario, then the Rams have to lose to the
Cardinals on Saturday no matter what.
So it wouldn't matter if the Seahawks won this game if the
Rams lose the Cardinals, because the second tiebreaker is indeed
divisional win loss. If they lose the Cardinals, the
Rams will finish three and three in division.
The Seahawks will finish four and two.
If they beat the Cardinals, that tiebreaker won't come into play
because they would both finish four and two.
If Seattle wins this and the Rams beat the Cardinals, and
then Seattle beats the Rams, you're going to wind up with a
tie division with loss. Right, right.
I just wanted to tell that guy, like Chad, he's an idiot.
He was like, have you been watching the TV?
It's been on there four times. I'm not drinking a beer.
Charbenet attempts baby. I love celebrating this ugly,
stupid play. Yeah, what a. 6:00 on the third
and five. Yeah, he's at what, 10 now?
10 now. Joe Joe says so you're saying it
matters. It matters if a bunch of those
teams that I just mentioned lose like lose out, like if the Bills
lose out and the Vikings lose out and, and some of that shit,
then it they're. Motivated to win, though it's
not it's. Not they're motivated to win.
The other thing is they could get eliminated this week if they
don't win. And if they do win,
theoretically, they they couldn't get a Well, no, no,
they could still get eliminated from the they could get a that
could actually be locked up. Yeah, yeah.
There's the Geno rushing. The strength of victory thing is
like almost certainly going to go to the Rams.
That's why they're at like 14%. Someone also said they showed
the we kind. Of wait from the Geno.
I wish we did the Geno rushing, that would have been so dumb and
fun that. Would have been fun, The the
someone in the chat said. They showed the percentages and
they're 14% and then if they win tonight, they go to 15 and if
they lose, they go to 13, which is like the perfect way of
putting it. It does very tiny help them, but
it it actually doesn't really matter.
They really just need the Rams to lose.
That's like the biggest and clearest thing that they need.
Yeah. Basically, I'm not taking them
in playoff contest. Charbonnet.
Yeah, Russian. Actual take away that's.
What we need man, this is just great football.
Charbonnet right at the gut for one yard.
It's a Christmas gift that keeps on giving.
Yeah. It is crazy how much of the game
plan JSN has been the past two weeks and how little he is
involved tonight. This has been a it's not just a
past two weeks. I mean, he's had a couple games
that have been a little lower, right.
But I mean it's been the past like couple months that have
been JSN, you know. But I mean, like, these past two
weeks have been back-to-back 12 Target games, and that was even
an uptick from what he was getting even before.
It's the game environment like it's they're not passing like
it's not like Metcalf is in Locket or crushing fans.
Obviously been more involved than we hoping, but what is 3
receptions I think? I was thinking back to these two
games in November, he had the 13 target, 180 yard game against
the Rams and then they had a bye and then coming out of the bye,
11 target, 10 catch game. But then he had three kind of
low games in between there. Oh my God, you.
Know so voting bro that much and then be that oblivious to the
guy hitting your arm. Obviously you're about.
To get hit in the arm. What are you doing?
Love him loading up like he's like you got all this time.
Yeah, yeah, I think he's, I think he's, that's a.
Lineman. Oh, that was the lineman.
Duke's like 6 dudes, how do you not know they're coming from
behind you? Like you just saw them they.
You know, sometimes they're like fully reached out to just like
tip the ball. His arm went all the way.
They did like the the the. Yeah, they did the thing.
Yeah, they did the thing, yeah. He over squatted the ball by so
far that their armpits were locked.
Oh my God. He, he gave him he.
Gave some respect, you know. How was Gino so oblivious to
that guy being that close to him that he over swung by that much?
It's honestly crazy Bailey feeling less good about all the
overs we took at half Look I I'm not feeling good about him
either. This is this is the kind of
energy we need from Star Kindler.
Thanks for a stellar ship season.
Sorry, we're going to go out with a whimper.
Thank you, Star. Not with a bang.
The only thing that I can thing to do to make this more
enjoyable for myself is get drunk and fight the chat like
that's. Me, we just start blocking
people in the chat, Yeah. We just got to start blocking
people for the hell of it. If you think that Seahawks need
to win this game, you blocked. Get out here.
Steph, what did you do for Christmas?
Well I went to my parents house to live about 5-10 minutes away
so. Nice, did you let them in on all
of your best ball sweats? My mom's actually really funny.
So she she's like, she's like, do you have this guy?
Is he, is that good for you? You know, does that help?
And I was like, yeah. Then oh, it was a very funny one
where I told her I have Mark Andrews on the Ravens.
I said, that's who we're rooting for on the Ravens.
Mom, you know Mark Andrews and she goes, So what position does
he play? Is he a receiver or running
back? And I and it was right after
there was a Henry play and I was like, he's a tight end mom.
And she was. Oh, and she goes well.
You should have. Why didn't you draft that
running back? It's come up.
Mom. I was like, well it doesn't
quite work like. That funny you should ask how
much time you. Did kind of work like that.
I kind of did. I kind of chose over and over
not to. You say mom.
Here's the RSS for eight different podcasts are going to
have this discussion all summer long that you can tap into if
you're curious. My parents used to ask me stuff
like that. And then I got to the point kind
of in probably in like the peak dynasty days.
Plus the when I was first doing basketball.
My dad, it's more my dad to be like, is that is that good?
I'll be like I no longer know Dad.
Well, it's easy, but I only have one finals team.
Right, right, right. I exactly it'd.
Be more early in the season, yeah.
Yeah, earlier I I would try to explain.
I was like guys, I have way too much to have any clue.
Last year when my mom was here, I, I was in this fantasy life
eliminator league and there were punishments when you lost and
she happened to be here when I got knocked out and my
punishment was to call my mom IRL.
And now my mom thinks all of my leagues are like eliminator
league. So when she asks me, she's like,
are you still in, in the league or like, you know, what do you
got going on? I'm like, oh, that was just
what, that was just what this was with daily stuff off.
We're always in the mix. We're always in the mix.
He thinks you're getting eliminated every week.
Are you still? Alive.
Are you still alive? Yeah, that's great.
Wow, super chat from Sean without a question asking about
whether someone was a a metaphysical league winner in in
BBM. Appreciate you, Sean.
Yeah. Appreciate it man.
We're about to know here in a few days.
Hey Dawn, Congrats man. First born daughter on Christmas
Eve this year, just like 02 days ago.
Wow, we. Got a 2 days.
Old. Girl dad in the chat.
Fantastic. Shorty would Shorty just had a
kid is well, first time girl dad, all kinds of there's a
couple others coming in the deposit Kingdom as well.
Easy I know, is having a kid here in the next day or two.
Awesome. Congratulations everybody.
Also took down the Spy on Christmas, he wrote.
Wow, nice. Were you building that while she
was giving birth? Like what?
I remember. Birth.
I remember playing Showdown the night before April was born when
we were just like, you know, just sitting in the hospital,
like bored out of our minds, waiting.
Got to get that new dad run good.
Yeah, yeah. Don't think there's downtime in
the hospital, he says. That's yeah, we do that.
There's downtime in the hospital.
There's downtime. Yeah, it might.
It was April for us. So, you know, there just wasn't
there wasn't BBM. If there was, BBMI probably
would have gotten some some drafts in.
I guess it was the big board. This banded brotherhood.
I probably have kids. I don't know why I thought that
was so funny, but I did. There's a Keenan catch for 2 1/2
yards. We didn't play the Keenan
receptions. Thing no, I played the touchdown
instead I think. How many how many yards do we
need for a doones day to catch fan on that?
52 I. Mean he could get that.
I mean, that's honestly doable, yeah.
Well, if he had. He's been really open for like
30 plus area yard throws that he could have had 20.
He would legitimately have 50 yards if it weren't for the
overthrow and the holding on the touchdown.
Totally. Here you go vertical route, find
him down, field down. Just gets mobbed.
This is a shitty football game. I am really excited for my
finals team, guys. I mean, this is, that's, that's
about, that's about. AI mean if you're excited for
your finals team, that's exciting.
Well, I mean, not, not excited for the pickups at the moment,
so I got to make the money back somehow.
That's. Right.
I'm looking at our our dynasty league that we were talking
about. Pat Davis has Keenan Lockett and
Cole Commett and Lockett only has five points so.
He's in the know. Where you have DeAndre Swift,
who has nine, Sean has Gino, as I mentioned, Gerald Everett.
That dance. All I have is Sam Howell and
Noah Fanton in this game. Anyway, I'm excited because I
didn't have anyone important in this game and you guys weren't
getting any points. Well, Swift is maybe hit a ball
in the lineup, but yeah, I think I'm OK with running back.
Don't have Bijon. I have Bijon there, right?
You have some really good players in this league.
You have Bijon, still have Drum Ford.
You have from Andre Stevenson, Rashad White, but you have,
let's see, you have like Mike Evans and Kittle and Laporta and
Judy and T Higgins and Drake London and Christian Watson
aren't. Three of those guys
questionable. I love it, Steph.
I'm going up against it, so thank you.
Come. On Steph, sorry.
Hey, at least you don't have CD. Yeah, that's.
QB because you had Deshaun Watson and Fields and neither of
them's playing you. You only have Love and Anthony
Richardson and Richardson's also a little banged up.
I tried to trade Love and Richardson this offseason.
My only good quarterbacks that actually start, I mean,
Richardson didn't even start for a bunch of the season, but but
yeah, no one wanted them. I guess it makes sense.
No one wanted Richardson. But remember when we said that
that was it? Was it Rams, Niners.
A few weeks ago we said it was like the worst Thursday night
game ever. This is a hold my beer
situation. There was more interesting stuff
in that game. This is really, really bad.
Yeah, at least on that game we had the theory that what was it?
Sean Mcmay was loosening up his play calling the more dry he
got. Yeah.
Yeah, but but these guys, I think they have proper Reign
attire. Well, because I was going to say
Grub doesn't have a good rain jacket for this game.
I mean, this dude's from Washington like he's, he must be
a maniac. I haven't seen him yet.
I love this Fernando comment. I know you guys like this stuff
too. You wrote you guys are the best.
Got one or two BBM teams in. Thanks for all the great advice.
Hopefully week 17 is all that matters.
Thanks for watching Fernando. I love people like that that I
mean I don't think we've seen them comment before.
Just wanted to throw a a nice comment.
Appreciate. You very nice.
There's been some some incredible stories out there.
I I shared one this kid that apparently used to play at poker
tournaments. My house figured out he was one
of my brother's friends. One bullet made the BBM finals.
Mythology has a buddy one bullet BBM finals.
Like when we say one bullet literally drafted one team in
the contest and then log in and see they have 3750 in their
account. Incredible.
Amazing. Mythology's friend didn't even
know he was in the finals, though Mythology had to text
him. OK, JSN is running a deep.
Oh, I wasn't where he was going. He's running a kind of a deep
over on after that motion they're showing him.
Was he coming back to the short side of the field?
Maybe that was him. Corrupt, I think.
It was him, I think. Dry.
I mean, it was nowhere near him, but I think that was like
technically to him. He motioned hard the other
direction, but maybe he was. Yeah, banana ING back out.
There's a lot of teams have been around in that short side
motion, then back to the like the out, like you motion in and
then you go back out to that sideline.
It looked like this game sucks. It really.
Is bad. Like there I feel like in other
bad games we've had, I've been able to like sell myself on an
angle of like hope or like it speeding up or getting better.
I I just have 0 hope. There's nothing about this
that's fun. There's.
Nothing that makes me think it's going to get better.
I I am enjoying the Charbonnet 1 yard runs.
I think they're good. They sum up this game and they
help us. So I I just I take.
Take a look. But nothing that they're paired
with is going to hit. I know, I know.
But Jason Mason, there you go. Pat a fish and play.
Caused by the ground. There you go, you have the
sharps. Oh wait, we still need the
doomsday. I need the doomsday instead,
yeah. I was like when I saw a doomsday
and everything, I was like, why? Why?
Well, it was also a fan. He just hurts me every week.
I like was starting him everywhere and you know, it's
been all season. I'm like.
No, I mean, it wasn't. Yeah, we we're.
We're a little bit. Too.
It wasn't. It was more about like the
lower. It was more about fan.
Yeah, no, I I get that. Unfortunately, Dunsa has the
ability for. You know.
Field targets. I mean.
Unfortunately. It was about fans who promptly
buried it. Yeah.
Yes. Who was 40 yards?
And now we need to have a touchdown.
And the idea was Phant was going to have like 25 yards all game.
And then you need, you need a doomsday to get like 36.
And yeah, he's going to do that. He's been open 30 yards down the
field twice. And instead fans going to have
like 60 yards and by the end of this game and the doomsday might
not catch up. OK, so Mike McDonald is wearing
a a cotton hoodie and A and a baseball hat, so.
Cotton Headache Hoodie We need to know the attire ahead of time
for the games for us to. Make Thomas Brown is actually I,
I think the Bears are going to win this.
I'm sorry to the to the the Super contest guys, but I mean,
Thomas Brown is actually prepared for the rain.
Yeah, McDonald's is sitting there wet.
Now, does the wet make them a worse coach from their own mean
because Thomas Brown not done a very good job of coaching?
No. Even if he's prepared to be dry,
he may not still be a good enough coach.
It's it's still. Just regular Thomas Brown, but
you're getting Mike McDonald who just like, really wants to go
home, wants to run the ball. Down.
You're getting a bad McDonald's. I mean, we've already seen, you
know, they're playing for field goals.
He's doing. I knew he was wet.
The behavior was so wet so. It's the West behavior.
It's it's just awful. Now they're throwing a fucking
Pharaoh Brown. Yeah, this guy's So what the
chills starting to sit in. You just fumble it too.
I hope he did. That's what they deserve for
throwing a fucking. They deserve.
They deserve it, everyone. Got a quick pass this game.
Except JSN they're the only fucking player on their team.
They haven't thrown a quick pass too.
They threw a quick. Pass for.
Fucking waterboy. You know they have Seattle
branded like slickers that he can that he could wear.
It's freaking in. Seattle.
It's Seattle. Yes, that was.
Rain gear. Oh, he punched that out.
That's definitely out. Did they call him down by?
Unless they unless there was a whistle, it's out.
I mean, that was a punch. Neither of these teams, though,
seem like they're actually. Watching a punch down, they call
that a touchdown. And nobody.
That came out. Nobody tried.
I told you man, I am. So he's wet.
Wow. I'm so glad that's what they got
for that fucking Pharaoh Brown play call.
That's what you deserve. Throwing the ball.
You're blocking tight end on a quick hit like he's going to go
fucking run for 20 yards. Like what the hell are you
doing? Just absurd.
Just. He's too cool.
He's too cool to wear something to protect him from the rain he
calls Pharaoh. Brown fumbles.
And this guy's like, this guy doesn't hold the football.
I'm just going to come over here and punch it out.
There's never had this kind of luck on their side.
This is this is insane for me. He.
Was definitely not down by contact.
Mac Nova arguably should have been down by far progress, but I
think he is still moving forward.
Down by Contact No. He's saying that the the
returner. Yeah, yeah.
It's not a touchdown, but it's Chicago ball.
Chicago Ball. Yeah, now Farrell Brown was
still perfectly upright. What's Tyler Lockett screaming
about? The keep shot.
Oh, let Farrell, Brown play Paul.
Why don't you throw it to me, man?
He's like a. Lot more said.
It's already pretty thin to be giving me targets, Coach, but.
Darrell Brown. That's a bridge.
I'm the bottom. Don't go below me, man.
The moist report by Leg Up the Consigliaries.
Got your next article? Series, I can't Yeah, well, it
would have to be. It has to be in game.
It's it's got to be Yeah, a live tracker.
That'd be that'd be pretty great.
We just need like the wettest coaches and then just the guy
bubbles up to the top, the rain starts.
He's wearing cotton. He's super wet.
Wet watch motherfucker. Watch Soggy the Jazz.
It works, man. I mean, think about it.
Think about the standing out there.
Sure. Oh, it's only 40.
It's not that cold. It is if you're soaking wet.
You're. Going to make bad decisions.
Come on guys, Legendary slip and slide.
I'm trying to I'm trying to come up with something here for you.
Legendary downpour. I think I mean, moist is the
worst word in the English language.
I think that's got to be a part of it.
The moist report is just the. Moist report.
It's just too disgusting not to use the moist measure.
Moist just sounds like a moist word.
Like why is that a word moist? Yeah, a lot of people don't.
Like moist maker No. No, that's that's.
Even a word we're. Going to make that sounds so
bad. There's no bad ideas that's
they're just brainstorming here. Soak soak chasing already owned
by the More Stoke chasing. Oh.
Stoke chasing is pretty good. Moist maker is already a thing,
I will not be Googling that on screen Google.
That I. Definitely not googled it.
She just said it. How how?
I mean, you really quickly googled moist maker after she
said that or else you've already googled it.
Or what if he already had it? Yeah, this is the coach Soaked
index is pretty good. That's pretty good.
That's that's the winner, Coach soaked index.
It's right up Greg's alley, too. We could get the.
We'll talk to Greg, maybe we can get a partnership going on the
coach so. Index.
Yeah, I mean, he could have the little dials and show us how bad
when they're wet, how bad their choices get.
Yeah. How much moisture the
sweatshirts will. Hold Sean Mcveigh's is like red
alert right? Like this shit goes way downhill
once he gets a little bit wet. This is an LA boy for sure.
You have to like litter for Sean.
You got to make sure he's not sweating too much.
Any moisture can just throw the whole thing off.
Yeah. They've done, they did, was the
first game in Arizona because that would, that would kind of
shake things up, right? They they'd lost to the
Cardinals in Week 2. Where's this one?
Is it in LA? It's in LA.
The Moist Maker is a Thanksgiving sandwich made
famous by the Friends episode The one with Ross's sandwich.
Where he right actual idea of what it was from when he said
it? It took me a minute.
Yeah. That's when Ross writes the note
on his Thanksgiving sandwich. Because Monica makes the special
and he, like, goes off on people in the office.
That's fine. I've never watched Friends in my
life. Yeah, I'm trying to remember.
I don't remember that. That's that.
That's one. Of the I thought it was going to
be something far worse than that.
Yeah, like something really dirty, yeah.
Keenan feaston underneath. Well, they're starting to throw
the ball a little bit. I mean, hopefully that'll open
something down field. We're getting the Caleb
second-half stuff going a little bit at least.
I mean, it's not a lot of yardage, but fuck, they're
moving with some tempo. Like they're doing something.
They're not just trying to run up the third quarter right now.
That's true. Oh God, oh God.
Right after I said it. Dr. Killings.
God fuck this game. It's going to be hilarious when
we get overtime for this too and we don't even want it.
No, no, we're not doing overtime.
We'll just shut it down. The.
Thing. Is this has not even gone on
that long. It has felt like the longest
ship cast of the year. It's we're about at the two hour
mark and we finished 3/4. This game is about to fucking
end in under the three hours. It's crazy.
I'm getting another drink, we get 2 drinks.
Kids are out there. We we are down so bad we had a 2
yard play. Grand Theftalian is momentum.
I couldn't even participate. I was like, oh.
Overtime thinking nobody, we're we're no, no, no.
So you guys are excited about the Saturday games?
Those actually look pretty good. Those were the first game.
What was what's the first game that was not that fun to write
up, but the next two were pretty fun Let's see what's what's the
schedule it's. I'm just, I wish those games
were just on Sunday. Come on.
Me too. Oh yeah.
The first game was the Chargers Patriots, which was, you know,
not super fun to write. But then the What do you mean?
About super fun to write. Up you love Jake May.
That has been the game you've had circled for eight months.
You you used that game as an excuse to draft Drake May in
every draft. What do you mean that game
wasn't fun to write up? Well.
I mean. First of all, I've said
everything there is to say on Drake May before now, so I you
know, I don't have too much left to write about them.
The weapons obviously never came together for the Patriots.
So there's just like not and they're benching room.
Andre maybe so it's just like kind of AI wrote more on the
page. I had more fun right on the
Patriots side for sure, but the Cardinals Rams that game that
was that was fun to write up and the the Bengals, Broncos
actually pretty fun to write up too.
Yeah, I need the Bengals game very bad for my team.
The the I'm looking back up to the chat did I heard you guys on
my headphones obviously saying the two yard play.
I was so I guess momentum and that was very.
Funny, I just. Laughed at that again.
Did you? When you were going through the
games this week, did you get this weird sensation that like
these games have already been played?
Like when I. Cuz we cuz we thought about them
so much. Cuz we talked to them so much.
It's like, wait, this was like a week two game.
We already saw Atlanta and Washington play.
They're not even in the same division.
They already played this year. But it's like, no, we just
talked about them all offseason. Yeah, I remember this.
Matchup. I remember this matchup.
It is.
Well, and even just laughing, I mean, whenever I see the the
Rams, I mean, I literally remember Pat's mnemonic device
of didn't you have the the Puka Marv bowl?
Is it that what you're called the Rams?
This was the Shane Waldron game, Revenge game.
He's not even fucking coaching Shane Waldron revenge.
He didn't make it to his revenge game.
Make it to his game. But they but yet they're still
screwing JSN and. It looks like he's coaching both
teams. It kind of feels that way.
The games I was most excited about, I mean, Houston,
Baltimore, I thought Houston was going to be so good.
They got beat 31 to 2. Washington, Atlanta was super
into. There's going to be a bunch of
rain in Washington. You know, like, I mean, who was
telling me about the El Nino in Washington?
Somebody should have been down in the summer.
You got Michael Pennock's in there and they're not even able
to throw the ball. Like none of the none of that is
good. It's brutal.
Can Jade and Daniels throw it though?
That's more what I need. Yeah, I think so.
OK, He can run a lot. Well, I have him and Terry so.
I had a lot of Denver, Cincinnati.
That still seems like a fun game.
Yeah. Well, I don't have any Denver
side. I just have.
That one seems fun. I didn't even count on
Cincinnati there. Carolina, Tampa has a huge over
under. Tampa has the highest implied
total. That's not something we would
have thought in the summer. No, that's one to bookmark I I
think. Yeah, Bucky's set up really
nice. I have I have Bucky and
Mcmillian. Smash.
Well, good, that's what. These are what I need to hear.
I hope everyone who has Bucky wins.
Thank you. He's online.
What was it made it? Is McMillan in a good spot?
You like him this week too? Say yes.
I. Haven't written that one up yet,
but I was well, it's kind of eyeing up like what potential
spots were for for cover boys as I got as I got there and the
Bucky Bucky caught my eye as potential.
Yeah, I I still have to write it up, but yeah, I got him on the
mini schnauzer. So go Bucky.
This Oh yeah, It's our night after Christmas.
Still fire up a ship cast. It's fucking six to three in the
fourth quarter. I'm having a great time with you
guys. Just want you to know that it's
a pleasure to do this with you guys.
Yeah. It is.
It is what a game. I'll tell you right now, get
your get your plugs in now because there's no talking about
plugs. Once the game ends, the second
it says zeros on there, the the stream's fucking over.
So plug what you need to now. Should we build some pickups for
the Saturday games? Not under this headspace, no.
Yeah, I don't think we, I can't see us picking winners right
now. No.
We need a day of rest tomorrow that we get like.
A day of rest after like. You need to find God.
It's honestly weird the NFL didn't schedule a game for
tomorrow like I'm. So they should have like just.
You're sitting there for me. To the bit.
Yeah, it is kind of weird they don't have 1:00 tomorrow.
At this point, how is Amazon not trying to do some Black Friday
right to revenge? Boxing Day.
Return shit instead of returning
your gifts to Amazon. Watch football.
Thank you Balls life, happy to hear that.
Merry Christmas, Balls life. Yeah, I'm glad that you guys
enjoy this. It's dog shit, but I'm glad you
guys enjoy it. Fucking.
Sucks. Pat, wasn't your your nuke game
from Brady? That was, that was a Tampa
Carolina game, right? It was the Brady.
That was Tampa Carolina, yeah. With the with the DJ Moore bring
back. I just fucking realized this Joe
King guy is not named Joe King. It's joking.
He's been on the chat like. I need a good job.
Honestly. And not put that together
either. I didn't even.
I've seen this fucking guy with this little avatar before.
He's like in here and he's very serious right now.
Today is Boxing Day. Joking, joking.
What if he is? Well, it's tomorrow.
Happy Boxing Day to all who celebrate.
What is Boxing Day again? Isn't it an English thing?
Yeah. It's an English thing.
Oh, it's English. OK.
Joking. Yes, it is the second night of
Hanukkah, guys. Wow, Jason, quick pass, Do you?
Think that was a mistake? Is that supposed to be to Noah
fan that? Might have been, yeah.
They might have audibled underdress.
Remember when I talked to you guys into playing Kayla Williams
passing yards over? Oh, it was 200 and he was at 85
and you guys mentioned that it was 100 away.
He's not at 100 yet. Yeah, I was.
Assuming he was close. He's not at 100.
He's at like 95. No, he was at 85.
We did this at halftime and he's added I think 7 yards.
You got to love Seattle burning every play clock as if they're
up by 30 points right now. This.
Is everything about this sucks? Your wife is from Riga, Latvia.
Celebrated Boxing Day growing up.
Congrats to your Latvian Queen. Two more rush attempts for
sharps. Riga's the capital of Latvia.
I've done the the capitals thing this year a little.
Bit. Embarrassed.
Myself instead of sitting life together with the Latvian Queen
there. Congrats to your Latvian Queen.
God, just run this back so I can feel something.
I know I. Just thought that Travis Homer
just destroys him. No, that's not Travis.
Homer around team. Travis Homer's out of the game.
This could be the Travis Homer revenge game.
He's an active, I think he. Didn't make it to the revenge
game either because his coach that likes him is fired.
Sherman got fired. Who?
That was a joke. Sam Sherman.
I was joking obsessed with Travis Homer all the time.
He did love Travis Homer. I think it was his highest
exposure player. No.
Not Travis. Homer.
I was just hoping Sam was watching to be tilted.
I didn't take him on. Oh my God, Geno Smith has 20
rushing yards which is worth 2 points, you know, and has 5
total points scoring system on this dynasty league I keep
talking about. Like how the fuck do you you?
You got 20 rushing yards on the game, How do you only have 5?
I mean you have nothing else. There must be negative for sacks
or something in this scoring. 132 yards I.
Don't think so. He's.
Got 132 pass yards, 20 rushing. How is that 5?
I mean even 25 yards per pass would be 5 passing and then
you'd have two more for rushing. He hasn't turned the ball over.
Oh no. Oh he's fumble twice but he's
not lost them. But maybe just fumbling isn't.
Maybe yeah, some leaks give you the penalty for fumbling.
Just fumbling, yeah. Like one for a fumble, 2 for
lost. That's right, that's what it is.
It's not. And there's actually nothing for
fumbles loss. It's just fumbles are -1.
Interesting. Yeah.
What is the NFL hate ship cast? Yeah, we, if we, if we would
have done our ship, cast the 4:00 PM window the past few
Sundays, like the past month, like the 4:00 PM window has been
just absolute bonkers, non-stop scoring.
The Thursday night Island games. I mean, there haven't been.
I mean, when was even the last good Island game?
There haven't been a lot of good ones, but you said it well
earlier. This is this takes the fucking
cake, man. This is.
Torture. Worst game of the year?
Not even close. Yeah, even the 49ers Rams was a
little more interesting than this.
Yeah, that game sucked, but it was at least a little bit,
you're right, a little bit more interesting than this.
They're like Pooka. Made Kyron, Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah, there was like shit that
happened and like even games like the Baltimore Houston game
on Christmas yesterday, which shocked and was over early and
teams bar on their backups. Lamar did fun shit.
Derrick Henry was doing shit. Yeah, like one team was doing
some cool stuff happened. Yeah, that blowouts were more
background was awesome. I mean, those types of blogs can
sometimes suck, but the the Monday night game Packers and
and Saints sucked. But like you at least got
whatever. If you were Josh Jacobs fan,
you're like, yeah, and he's doing some shit, you know?
Right now that game is pretty brutal for me.
That game was not fun for anybody.
Yeah, that one sucked. That's up there.
That's on the list of worst games of the season.
We did figure out if Seattle needs to win, Ryan.
I got really angry about it and the best comment was after I
explained the whole thing, somebody was like, take a
breath. That was good.
I was like so then this happens and this happens and this
happens. Well, it was why they if they
win, they go up by 2%. Why could they possibly be
showing the James Harrison Inter like Super Bowl?
Interception because of because of Leonard Williams top speed.
They're comparing, I believe, the top speed of Leonard
Williams. I think cuz there's something
you don't understand. Exceptions.
The Jets that they just showed. Just having a highlight was
nice. It was nice.
That was a fun football play. Although I was rooting against
the Steelers pretty hardcore in that game and that was a if
you're a Cardinals fan. I mean that was one of the all
time shitty turn of events. That was the last play of the
half. They just had a tackle him, I
mean, and the Cardinals should have been scoring before half.
So it was just a massive swing in that Super Bowl.
Cardinals were going to score to like either go ahead or extend
A1 score lead and they either went down by two scores or it
flipped from being up by 1 score to being down by 1 score in a
massive 2 score turn when it was a close and then the Steelers
pulled away. Oh no, no, Steelers ended up
winning at the very that's the Centennial Holmes catch game.
They end up winning at the very end and it all comes back to
like that two score swing right before half time.
Dude that sucked. Yeah, it was brutal.
For like Kurt Warner when he was like 40, something was playing
awesome. That was a fun team.
Young. That was on his only chance.
Yeah, he put the he put them on his own back in that playoff
run. He was so awesome in that
playoff run. I mean, there's a lot of fun
players, Anquan Bolden on that team.
Bolden went on to win one with the Ravens, I think, and Warner
had one with the Rams early in his career.
But I mean, it would have been cool if he won.
I think he would have became the like the biggest gap between
Super Bowls or something interesting that was like they
wanted in there's. Been so many sacks to scape.
I wanted the over on William Sacks.
That was the thing I felt best. About.
But they. They should like, why not let us
do sack sliders? That would have been very fun.
Yeah. Let's slide that up to. 5 I'm
just thankful that neither of these teams are going to be in
the Super Bowl. He does all this stuff but like
it's all it's feels very. You guys do realize at the
moment going to OT at 6/6 right? No, I that's what I I said.
I was like, yeah, this game has OT.
Seattle's going to keep walking around and then Caleb's going to
leave a field goal once they have to play with four downs,
like they'll get into field goal range.
Well, that's why the pick six or the on the Pharaoh Brown was
going to be so good because it was finally going to light a
fire under Seattle and they that fire is not bed lit.
Seattle's been playing like they have a 10 point lead.
It's they do, they're bleeding the.
Clock down yeah in their defense a three-point lead against
Chicago right now does feel like a 21 point lead.
I haven't even been able to screen share the pickups because
there's no yardage to like update there there, there's
enough. There's no news to give I.
Think we? We're one away on the Shard.
Or two away. He's 2 away.
He's at 14. Pulling us to the 2009 Super
Bowl because the that's what the the broadcast decided to do.
It was 10/7. Cardinals had a chance to to
take the lead before half or tie it at 10:10.
They go down 17 seven and they come back and they lead late
2320 and lose at the very end 232723.
But I mean that's you just go back to that play and you're
like like turn of events. They they held the Steelers for
three points the whole second-half until the Holmes
touchdown at the very end had a chance to I mean they played
good defense on these guys all game.
Other than that, pick six they had.
Who was their coach then? The Cardinals.
Wizenhunt. Wizenhunt.
Yeah, Tomlin versus Wizenhunt. Wizenhunt was a pretty good
offensive mind until he just wasn't anymore.
So Wisset Hunt was with the Titans when they drafted Bishop
Sankey, which, you know, Bishop Sankey sucks, but I was
convinced he was going to be good.
So I hate, I agree to hate Wisset Hunt because he never
played Bishop Sankey. Anytime Bishop Sankey got
anything going, you pull him. But then it also like led me
now. I was like too obsessed with the
team. So I was like kind of
scrutinizing everything they were doing.
I'm like, this guy sucks. Like he is a terrible coach
right now, which I think was correct.
Obviously the Sankey call not not so good.
It's super funny. So I I just clicked on his
coaching resume. He did six years with Arizona,
took a year off, got fired, right, took a year off, came
back and was the head coach of Tennessee for a year and a half
and it says fired after week 8. This is on Pro Football
reference. They have their simple like team
offensive quality relative to average rating.
So Zero's average and his second season is when they went to the
Super Bowl and they were like well above average.
And then his third season they were basically average.
And then the next three years at Arizona, they were below average
and he ends up getting fired. But both of his Tennessee years
are worse even than any of his Arizona.
He's like they're very negative. And then he just 2 and 14 his
first year one and six fired went 3 and 20.
And that was that was his Tennessee tenure.
So you're, you're not wrong. He was very, very shitty in
Tennessee. I don't remember that well, but
you're not wrong. He was very bad.
Yeah, my brother Mike would like, I would just be like
fucking Ken Woods another I just like rant about how bad of a
coach he was. Like I just feel like come on
man, get your shit together. No, you were not wrong, Pete.
Were you just texting? He texted.
No, I'm looking at my NBA teams to kind of find.
Great, that's even better. Wow, did he actually catch that?
Had to find out. Yeah, probably not.
Like his own reaction didn't look that great and nothing fun
can ever happen so. Oh, we didn't catch that.
Hell yeah, DK, it's awesome. What do we have DK with?
What's he? The DK slider also don't ask.
Questions. Everything's with the Rome.
Don't ask a question. I mean he needs like four more
of those to even hit his slider. Give.
Me. Something to hurt for.
Man honestly the biggest sweat right now is if that second-half
pick em where we have sharps rushing attempts.
We need two more and then the a Rome catch for more than 13 and
1/2 and. Rome.
Oh, we got one. I will say for the chat that we
did discuss some lowers. We were like there's a low over
under, there's some weather. We were a little bit concerned
about it, but both are concentrated offenses.
If this was a normal fucking football game, then something
cool would have happened. It's by now, even at the 42 over
under, you would expect some things to have happened, but
they're scored 9 fucking points. I mean, I wish I would have done
the alternate total under on the betting market.
You're going to make a lot of goddamn money tonight.
Under 10 points plus 10 million. I mean God love again.
Oh my God, I know a thing. 2 yard catch.
Wait, but we did it. We did an over on him.
Didn't we do a higher? Touchdown.
Touchdown No, no, we did do. We did do a higher yard.
Yeah, but I mean, Pat, like every one of these, dude needs
so much. Like just.
No. It's.
So funny. I can't believe he touched out
in Caleb to throw 110 yards. We ran the.
Spot even at 100 yards. Like I said, this is the sweat.
This is literally the only sweat Zach Charbonnay gets.
One more rush attempt and Rome catches 1.
Pass. For 14 yards, that's the sweat,
That's the sweat. OK.
That's all we got. Sorry.
You got, I mean, you made me happy with that.
There's a there's a real sweat. Was that a backwards pass?
We might need it to be. We might need it to be guys.
I hope so. I was looking down like, oh,
we're. Folks close.
Come on, come on. Step up.
Step up now.
Oh my God. These are the sorts of guys
tonight. Pat, I'll tell you where the no
fan catch mattered was in your Titan Premium Dynasty match up
against yours truly who just got a fourth no fake.
His 10 points are now higher than Nico Collins 9 points so.
That hurts. Nico 9 points that.
Really hurts. I've got what Laporta and
Kittles if I can't outscore get tight end, you know, if he's.
Like, well, I still got the I had Mark Andrews.
I thought it was so funny when I was watching that game, I was
like, me and Pat went back and forth on Andrews so much.
And now I'm playing against Pat with Andrews in the finals of a
Titus Tealing. I have McBride as well.
I have several. You'll be fine.
Yeah. It fan probably won't matter.
You have Kittle and La Porta. You have some nice tight ends
too. Kittle's my Monday night hammer.
That's all I have from that game.
Nice to have a Monday night hammer.
What is the season record for punts?
I mean, I think last what? Not last week, but the Rams
Niners game, we were talking about how many punts there were.
Remember when we did the possession, we pulled up the
possession chart and then we did it out.
We got 12345678910111213 punts in this game.
That's fucking crazy. That's a lot of punts.
That's more than that Rams game because it's both halves.
That Rams Niners game we were talking about at 1/2 time and it
was the whole first half, right? It was like 8 punts, but it
wasn't 13. They've actually like had real,
real possessions in the second-half.
If I recall, 13 punts. I'm going to go look up how many
punts were in that Rams Niners game because we got to fill the
air time. We got to do something, guys. 1.
2. 345678910111213 total in that game.
So one more punt and we'll go ahead of the Rams Niners game.
All right, dude. Do you do we want to take
guesses here on on the most the NFL record for punts in a single
game, dude? Not not this game.
No, no, I'm saying yeah, yeah. What?
What is the NFL? Record what?
What year cut off? Yeah, we're going to go out
pretty far here. I'll tell you the year, I'll
tell you the year. It was 1933.
Oh my God. They it was probably the rule
book. Like they they thought scoring
was just kicking. It's the ball. 22 at.
Least 20. No, no, it's going to be absurd.
It's going to be like 34. Me too, that Pete.
Pete is correct. It is in that range.
And guess what? This is a dual record held by
two teams that played the same day the same day.
They both had a combined total of 31 punts.
Wait, they played a double header the same day and both
games had 31 punts? No, the the Chicago Bears and
the Green Bay Packers on October 22nd, 1933 combined for 31
punts. Packers 17, Bears 14.
I believe that the same day the Cincinnati Reds were playing the
Pittsburgh Pirates and punted 17 times and 14 times as well you.
Did that was in a baseball game you just mentioned the
Cincinnati Reds, Pittsburgh Pirates?
Yeah, that's a baseball game, Yeah.
That is some wild ass trivia. The same day in the 30s.
Back then punting was worth a point.
They're fucking running the ball.
I love it, I love it. You don't love it because
they're going for a puzzle. Going to overtime I'm.
The game's going anytime, Pete's going to bed telling you.
I'm telling you this right now. I'm I'm leaving at the end of.
The 4th corner you can't leave. Pat sign in to my get the stream
yard code. Right now and then from 80 feet
chasing. OK, good.
Already signed in. Good.
Don't leave. I'm going to.
Leave and bed can read off puns. From the bucket night, I'm
always down to read about random as trivia.
I'm ready for some sporkle. Tonight, that is a crazy trivia
that how did how did has not not more commonly known.
Twice it happened twice on the. Same day in 1933.
All right, here's what we're going to do is pick me up.
We're not going to hit any of the giveaways, but we're still
going to give away this $400.00 that Underdog said we could give
away. And we're not going to do the
form. I want it to reward the people
who are watching the stream tonight #punt.
I'm going to get the stream yard giveaway going.
Put #punt, Wait till I get this set up.
I actually, I haven't even set it up yet.
It won't work until I get it set up here and then we will.
I'm going to have to insist that that we spin 31 times. 31.
We've randomized 31 times the honor of the punt.
OK, Eli, that has a mangina is your half #Jesus.
There you go. This is how you get entered.
What do you guys think? Should we do four $100 giveaways
or $850? 4100.
Yeah, let's do 4I just I mean, yeah I agree I can't
administratively 8 seems way too much.
We're doing four $100 giveaways. Four, $100 UD you have to so
when you win it'll just show your stream yard username
afterword. You need to leave your underdog
username in the comments if you want to be eligible.
If you win and you don't leave your underdog username, we have
no way to send you underdog money.
Can they put it in multiple times?
What happens when people put in multiple times?
Do you manually take it out? I've seen Star Kindler put it in
like 6 times. Already it only will put it in
once per name. Because he's hammering, he
thinks he's grinding the shit out of these entries.
See Stream Yard. Does the remove duplicates on
its own? That's beautiful.
I did like 5 * 0. #Punt. 4th and inches.
They're going for it with 214. Months #punt right now.
I'm kidding, I'm that would be that would break the the rails
Niners tie. Yeah, the surrender index would
just explode. Oh, they got him on full start.
Hashtag but hashtag, but they're going to put it.
They got three time outs. They're, you know, they want to
do it because they got the two-minute warning and three
time outs. They're thinking about it.
I can't join the chat I wanted to enter.
Was he shaking his head, Thomas Brown?
And shaking his head, wasn't he? He was.
Was he saying no, we can't go for it now we got a punt because
that would be perfect. Dude if they punt this.
That would be the icing on the cake of this game.
Oh, look at the Bears fan. Oh my God, he's already doing
the surrender cobra. He's on the sideline, they're
punting. Oh my God, you can't make this
up. We cannot make.
This up we're bonding on 4th and five with two minutes left.
What possible? Logic is there for this.
Our first winner, we're spitting Michael.
Michael, congratulations. If I if you write your underdog
username in the chat right now, let me know.
Otherwise, leave it as a comment after.
What just happened with the They had to burn a time out before
they punted. They just burned a time out.
Oh, now they're going for it. They burned a tear not to go for
it. Oh wow.
God I love them so much. I love this fucking game so
much. It's the worst goddamn game
ever. It's so bad.
It's gotten good because I mean, you need those timeouts if you
don't convert this like for obviously you need your fucking
timeout. But you, you brought your
punting unit out, call the timeout, and now you're fucking
going for it. This is where the Rome catch
comes and. Now he's running backwards by 30
yards. Oh my God.
How did he catch that this game going so amazing?
I will not be here. I will not be here.
We're spinning again. That was so good.
Straight backwards like in fucking Madden.
I'm just going to run straight backwards to the Chuck it.
Jeff Caravan, congratulations, Jeff, you won.
Are you in the chat, Jeff? What a throw.
I've never seen a dude drop that far back and throw off his back
foot and actually get it like on target with enough velocity Like
that dude's got arm talent. Let's be honest, we drop the
snap. Every single play this.
Game. Oh my God.
Jeff are. You into that letter.
Williams 2 sacks that. When he gets 1, he gets 2.
Yeah, man. We wish we could have slid that
one up to 1.5. Yeah, wish we could have paired
that with something else that didn't it.
All right, third winner ball is live.
Who wish us a Merry Christmas. That's that's right, yeah.
Shows up every week like it's his job living in the chat.
Good work. All his life.
Let me know what your underdog username is.
We got one more. One more the last moment.
Congrats. The last giveaway of 2024.
On the ship here it is. Big money, big money, big money.
Jesse Thor is that. Wow.
Is that a professional photo? Yeah, right.
I kind of look like teeny from this season of Survivor.
Congratulations, Jesse Thor. Congrats.
Wow, snuck it in. No, this one's already in.
Wow. Incredible.
That might have been only that might have been a single entry
winner. OK, there's Jeff.
Jeff, tell me what your underdog username is.
Same with Ball as life. Let me be done with all this
administrative stuff right now. OK, there it is.
Get it in there. BJ Lakers 10.
And then we got. Let's get.
Soupy Lakers. Let's get soupy.
That's gonna be You could be a
correspondent for Pat's new Moisture Spin on.
That's right, let's get. That.
Yeah, that's the, that's the as long as it's referred to like
the undercarriage, let's get soupy.
It's very moist on there. You guys think I'm kidding, but
I am not going to be here for overtime.
Yeah. Yeah, perfect.
All right. Where is.
I don't think you're kidding. We need.
Jesse Thor's name, he was really late to get his pun in.
He might be really like to get you his username as well.
The Bears need a Dome. Put it out there.
All these fucking teams need dums.
Let's just play that's. What Denny thinks, That's what
Denny thinks. I fucking love playing football
outdoors when I was a kid as a fantasy analyst.
Prefer not to worry about Mother Nature.
If you guys played football. There you go, it's Thor with
three Rs. OK.
Thank you. You bet.
I hope none of you guys have you.
Could have done something cool like Thor's hammer.
Your last name's Thor, like. Thor, you got, you got BG was it
was BG in the first one you said BG.
Yeah. BG Lakers 10.
OK, BG, OK. If you guys played football and
it was, you know, cold weather game, would you guys do the long
sleeve under like Keenan does or do you?
Think I always loved the long sleeves.
I wore long sleeves in like warm weather.
I love the Under Armour. But his are kind of baggy, like
a lot of the Under Armour is more yeah, like tight sleeves.
That's right, right? When I was playing like flag
football when I was older, I started doing the baggy stuff
and I liked that too. I always like sleeves for
whatever reason. Oh dude, did they catch that
third and 14? Holy shit.
Oh my God. I think you did.
Did we? Actually?
Yeah, He caught it. No flag.
No flag.
What was the flag?
14 1/2 I think we had a pick from.
The night. That was 15.
No, don't we? Don't we need the charms carry
still? Yeah, we need one Charms carry.
Yeah. Now you're sticking around for
OT. Fucker, I'm not.
I'll wake up and find out. Cole comment was wide open,
doesn't even look at him. Wait, pull that up.
What do we need? We need one carry from charms.
One carry from charms. See, a doomsday is good.
That's a good catch. It's a good football play.
Gets his hands down on the ground, works back up.
Wow, Caleb. To keep throwing, rushing
attempt. Oh Lord.
And they're a kneel it out situation.
So if the Bears don't get the field goal, we're not getting
that rush attempt. We need the field goal.
We're rooting.
Go overtime. Go overtime.
Amazing. Listen, I hear you say that you
won overtime, Pete. No.
He's not even a clear, he's not staying and he still wouldn't
play along with the bed. You're going to be in.
Why can't you root for it? This is the compromise I'll
make. I will go brush my teeth and get
all ready for bed and then I'll come back.
There we go. You'll do one, you'll do one.
But I have a very elaborate going to bed routine, so it
might take a while We'll. Be back for the final minute of
our now. Can you bring a camera with you?
I want to. I want to know about this
elaborate bed. Routine.
Hey, don't be a perv dude. I'm.
Thinking brushing the teeth. So that's like, there's more to
it than that then Wait, what's the?
What is the pervy part of the elaborate bedroom?
I told you I have an elaborate routine.
All right, buddy. No comment from.
Me. Whatever it takes to get to
sleep, bud. Oh my God.
Oh. We almost caught.
That Rome is trying to claw back this 40 yard deficit head to
head, it gets no a fan. When you should say the Burbie
thing, I was for some reason. Yeah.
Do you remember that Harold and Kumar went to White Castle when
he's just like shaving his pubes?
In the mirror. Like beats Rudina's like a hand
clipping his pubes. Got to keep that shit fresh my
man. Got to keep it cleaned up.
God this is going to be a hilarious field goal attempt.
Oh, he's got a Dunze. This is going to be a hilarious
field goal attempt. What is this like a 60 yarder?
Jesus. I can't believe we got the
longer dudes that catching. I know I'm taking.
Another. Half.
Unit miss. This will be like our fifth of
the year, OK. Stop.
Why? Why don't say that?
Well, they got to go for it. Now they can't kick this.
They got a time out. If they can complete this and
convert this play, they call their time out, kick a field
goal. This is exactly what we said was
going to happen. You brought it up two quarters
ago. This is going to OT.
We mentioned it again about 1/4 ago that Seattle was never going
to play the score and then this was going to happen.
Caleb was going to be in four down territory late and with the
extra down potentially get them into field war range finally.
And then we go to OT 6:00 to 6:00, this game will tie.
We have not had a tie this year. There's usually a tie.
Like if this game, if they make it feel cool, this shit will
die. This.
Feels like. Rightfully, this should tie
this. Should fucking tie 6.
To six so. What does that do for?
Tie with Arizona a few years ago.
They're ready for another 6-6 tie.
So what does that do for Seattle's chances to make?
They're actually eliminated with the tie.
Can you guys, can you guys believe back on like May 8th,
you'd be in a draft and you'd take Keenan Allen and you'd be
like, man, I got to get Tyler Lockett.
Later. Oh my God, did you see that
play? Caleb got fucking lit up.
Just chucked it up in the air. Let Charb steal it down.
Wildcat victory formation, All right.
This was the worst game. Of all the terrible, terrible
game. The stream's ending.
Steph, you want to say anything to all your fans out there?
Fuck this game. Merry Christmas everyone, love
you.