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Good morning from Grand Island, 
NY. 

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I'm Mike Show. 
It's summer and beautiful here. 

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It's not the Cape, but risers 
and fallers with. 

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ADP chasing is for When you 
watch ship chasing, you go. 

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These guys are just football 
guys. 

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I. 
Have my 4% exposure blanket to 

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stay poor actually. 
Back in, if it's Austin, it's. 

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Here to our crystal ball. close 
your eyes. 

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You know all your entries are 
going to lose anyway. 

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Yeah. 
That's fair. 

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You're. 
Not going to tell me all this 

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when I was here. 
It's anti cabal, it's anti the 

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best ball thought leader. 
I'm obviously lying to some 

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degree because like, I have a 
lot of both of these guys. 

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It's the most disgusting guy you
can make, but man. 

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All right, I can't be like I 
didn't. 

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None of us can tell. 
Play the music over him. 

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None of us could tell. 
That's why I put in the private 

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chat I just said is shop fucked 
or am I? 

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Yeah, none of. 
Us. 

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None of us knew. 
Who's Internet was? 

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I mean, he was in, he was in his
professional studio last week. 

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He's back at the home base this 
week. 

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And that, that is what happens 
fellas. 

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I mean, we are we're drinking 
from the firehose boys. 

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Every day you get on the 
Internet right now, sun up to 

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sundown, someone has jovored 
your favorite player, your 

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favorite third string running 
back is getting looks with the 

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ones. 
I'm really I, I'm very proud of 

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myself actually tempering the 
Burchard Smith stuff because it 

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has been non-stop. 
It has been incessant. 

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The drum beat on Burchard Smith.
I think old Davis would have 

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been like Prashard Smith is the 
skeleton key to fantasy football

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in 20. 29 I want old Davis back.
That's that's what I say. 

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And and I think, I think it's 
been, I think honestly, I I'm 

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proud of myself for for just 
sort of now Bullock is saying 

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that he wants this to be a 
Dantavian Wicks Jersey. 

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Bullock is actually so young 
that he doesn't even know that 

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the lore for this Jersey is so 
much better than it being like 

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he he can't even comprehend. 
That's 83. 

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Is that Samare Toure? 
Oh, buddy, come on you Jacob, 

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you might be too young to know 
the. 

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Lord Jacob's too young. 
Is this behind this? 

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Well, is it? 
Is this Janice? 

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This is a Jeff Janice Green Bay 
Packers authentic handcrafted. 

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How many Jeff Janice jerseys do 
you think there are in the wild?

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Honestly. 
Maybe, maybe lower honestly, 

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maybe maybe if if this this 
truly might be. 

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True you, you, you and Matt. 
Me is. 

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That is that game worn. 
Is that what you're saying? 

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That the only Jeff Janis 
terraces are the ones he wore. 

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Now, now, it's not game worn. 
I bet if I sent him a message, I

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bet I could get one. 
I truly I bet I bet he would 

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send me one. 
Maybe I will. 

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You know what? 
Let's just see what he's up to. 

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I'm going to send him a message.
Right now. 

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Mike, are we back? 
Do we? 

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Do we? 
Have you now? 

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Did you get any? 
Of the chasing. 

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Did you get any of the open? 
I'm sorry, I don't know. 

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I can't. 
Believe you got a very little 

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welcome. 
To ADP chasing and you're here. 

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Oh no, we're going to do riser. 
Yeah, great. 

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Just what I needed today. 
Not back in the pro studio. 

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Look at the the the chance I 
took. 

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Well, hopefully it's not a day 
of that. 

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Anyway, it's nice here. 
I, I said that we talked about 

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Joe Mixon and some other. 
I'm afraid to talk because it's 

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just going to get interrupted. 
So have we shown the first slide

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yet? 
Did I miss that under David 

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talking about the jersey? 
Sun up and sun up and sun down. 

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The first slide is a different 
Packer receiver Don Tavian witch

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the the so-called slap demon. 
He he is he I like I don't know 

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man. 
If I I think if I had to to do 

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the blindest seal, it almost has
to be Dontavian Wicks. 

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I I don't even know who else 
would be. 

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The well, I mean, we do have 
literally have a player who's 

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wearing sunglasses at camp right
now because he can't. 

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See him because he's. 
So someone else does come to 

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him. 
Never been a slappy? 

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Player though, yeah. 
He's had a lot of time to listen

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to some podcasts. 
Naji. 

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Naji. 
No. 

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The ultimate. 
Naji is the least slappy player 

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literally in the entire. 
Yeah, he the No one's ever been 

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less slappy than Naji. 
David, what is that? 

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That look like sangria? 
What are you drinking? 

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This is black. 
Oh, they're just like really big

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ice cubes. 
It's it's out of a like Peach. 

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Slices. 
So I had my, I had my protein 

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shake this morning and there was
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juice on the bottom. 
So I was like, I'm just going to

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put my coffee in that. 
And it's been a delightful 

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little treat. 
And that's not. 

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Davis, as you were describing 
with as you were about to say 

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what that was. 
I like a horror movie. 

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I was like, he's going to say 
it's flat Diet Coke. 

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Flat Diet Coke? 
Yeah, No. 

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Actually. 9 O 9:00 AM central 
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flat Diet Coke demon right now. 
OK, OK. 

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What is the by the way, since 
we're here, what is the right 

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take on Dontavian Wicks? 
Like? 

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Is it? 
Is it over or is there? 

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Yeah, yeah. 
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No, no, you guys. 
One person. 

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One person. 
Gets hurt and it's not over 

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anymore. 
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because the because Savion 
Williams was repping with the 

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ones yesterday like it's over. 
It's it's over. 

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Get out of here with Savion. 
Williams I just it's like the 

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thing with Dantavian wigs last 
year is that like, oh, it's so 

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clean. 
Like if someone gets hurt, like 

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he'll be out there and he gets 
open and, you know, it's very 

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fun. 
Then we drafted him in like the 

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one 20s for some reason, so you 
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The the one, the one 20s. 
Sure. 

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He got up there, man. 
We took we took Dontavian Wicks 

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at pick 95 in a $2500 fantasy 
football draft. 

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Grain. 
We did that together. 

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Okay, I blanked that out. 
I was 5. 

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This was one where I was like 
purely along for the ride. 

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I never quite sure understood 
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Was let me let me provide the 
correct opinion on Dantavian 

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Wicks. 
Yeah. 

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If you guys can't squint and. 
If Pete remembers it like I do 

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Davis together. 
It was, to be fair, it was. 

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I will give. 
I will give Pete the truth. 

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It was mostly Gretchen and I who
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If you can't. 
I, I was, I was right there, not

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on that draft, but spiritually I
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on, on the Slap Demon. 
The theory for Dantavian Wicks 

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is there are a lot of paths for 
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round pick. 
First being via a Romeo Dubs 

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trade injury, whatever. 
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suspended last year for being a 
diva. 

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So this is not a open and shut. 
He is going to run 80% of the 

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routes for 17 straight games. 
I I I personally do not believe 

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that. 
Secondly, there is also maybe 

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Dontavian Wix just kind of gets 
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the season and doesn't drop any 
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Maybe he just has a four target,
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game in week 3. 
And the coaching staff goes, ah,

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you know, we're we're kind of 
liking what Wicks is putting on 

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film there. 
Maybe we give him some more 

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opportunities. 
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running. 
They were 31st in the NFL in 

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PROE last year. 
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with 76. 
Maybe they're 13th in the NFL in

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PROE. 
Jordan loves healthy struggles a

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little bit. 
They're not getting anything out

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of Marshall Lloyd or Emmanuel 
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Like Matt Lafleur, I think is a 
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coach. 
It it's definitely, I'm saying 

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it's over on Wix, but it's 
certainly not Jover, right? 

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Yeah, if if you have I. 
Agree like he is still good. 

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Like you look at like his 
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He's still good at all the 
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He's good at getting open, good 
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What happens after? 
That's no good. 

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But that's the hard part. 
Here, that's one year. 

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Why can't he? 
He caught everything the first 

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year like just cuz he had one 
year of drops, like he, he 

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definitely screwed himself out 
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Like he had the he had the 
runway last year with the Watson

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injury, the Dobbs suspension, 
where if he had just caught 

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everything last year, he could 
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and he screwed that up. 
So that's not going to happen. 

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But if if fortune favors him 
this year, if maybe Golden is a 

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bust or if Dobbs or Reed got 
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know, maybe he gets back in the 
game and he actually starts 

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catching footballs again. 
Like Lord knows he's going to 

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get open. 
So he's going to get targets if 

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he plays and then and then who 
knows? 

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You know, I, I don't think it's 
Jover. 

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I think he, I think he could 
still get. 

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Back yeah, if you've if you've 
got Jordan Love and you want to 

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stack him, I think it's fine. 
I would say this, this is 

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probably the right take The the 
Dobbs and Watson are both likely

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to not be there in 2026, so 
there's paths for Wix since he's

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signed at least through then. 
This is like a classic, you 

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know, guy you you get for get 
off the waiver wire, maybe in 

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dynasty or get as a get as a 
very, very cheap throw in and 

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you just play for the 2026 angle
is what I think like that's that

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would be my preferred way to 
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Wix is like a is a in dynasty 
honestly, 'cause then then he 

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could really be a starter. 
You know? 

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That's a big deal compared to 
this year. 

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I think he's going to be a 
rotational guy. 

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He's he's OK. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, as a correlated dart 
throw, he's fine. 

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Let me let me put a hat on top 
of a hat on top of a hat on on 

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this discussion, which is to say
that there are generally 

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speaking, two types of round 
1817 wide receiver picks. 

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There is the Diami Brown, Tyler 
Lockett theory of well, who else

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are they going to play? 
So they're just going to be out 

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there, right? 
And then you have the I don't 

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know how he plays, but if he 
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generate good statistics. 
And I would say we maybe have 

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seen too much of A slide to the 
leonification of late round wide

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receivers with honestly some of 
the work that Pat and 

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Sacrilegious and Shady have done
with The Sims of like you just 

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don't want to get zeros. 
The market is a lot better. 

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I think this is greatly 
evidenced if I, if I, you know, 

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if this was a court case, Jacob,
I would be saying the fact that 

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Tyler Lockett is drafted AT2X 
the rate of Duntavian Wicks and 

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AD Mitchell, I, I would say 
Tyler Lockett's chances. 

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AD Mitchell, by the way, like 
just cannot stop dropping 

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footballs. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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Speaking of guys who can't 
catch, I mean, I've got as much 

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AD Mitchell as probably anybody.
Unfortunately, the Packers and 

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the Colts are kind of the same 
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We just don't have a 
quarterback. 

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But like, outside of us not 
having a quarterback, we're kind

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of the same team. 
Like we have like a franchise 

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left tackle we found for 
nothing. 

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We have a wide receiver who 
separates really well and can't 

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catch anything as our wide 
receiver 4. 

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We've got this like, annoying 
wide receiver who plays all the 

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time that the fantasy community 
wishes away every year, and 

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Romeo Dubs and Alec Pierce like 
it's the same team. 

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You've got a running back of the
two three turn that doesn't feel

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that fun to click. 
Let me can it let me actually 

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let me actually add. 
Root for one of the teams so one

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of them feels fun to me. 
And we had a fourth hat on top 

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of this, which is that if you 
wanted to. 

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Oh, a great receiver that only 
plays at 11 personnel. 

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You could establish the drafting
of Golden and Savion Williams as

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bullish for Dontavian Wicks 
because it's such a vote of no 

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confidence in both Romeo Dubs 
and of Jaden Reed's ability to 

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play in 11. 
Personnel. 

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And that they're looking for 
the. 

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And their Galaxy brain thing 
ever. 

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This is insane. 
Davis, you're doing you're 

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literally doing the shit that I 
hate most in the entire world at

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running back, which is like when
a team signed someone. 

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This is like when when JK 
Dobbins was side of teams were 

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like that's really bad for RJ 
Harvey because you know, odds to

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guest to me is still going to 
have his role. 

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Right, right it. 
Was like, no, Audrick estimate 

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is not going to have his role 
like you guys. 

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Speaking of which, like yes. 
Tom. 

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Tom sums up my feelings. 
Here for Rita Dobbs, but like, 

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it's a lot worse for Damian 
Wigs. 

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Leading downs feel like the same
pick. 

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You're right, there's a lot of 
similarities. 

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Yeah, that was one I didn't 
really believe, but I did want 

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to toss it out just to see. 
Well, you certainly did. 

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Let's move. 
On Davis, right there is what? 

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That was we got, we got, we got 
roasted on YouTube for talking 

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about pictures of players for 30
minutes. 

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This is less actionable. 
You are the one roasting us. 

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No, wait, Pat, You are the one 
roasting us. 

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I. 
Know my roast ends with Let's 

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move on. 
I was listening yesterday. 

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Show I'm on the planet devoting 
10 minutes to Dontavian Wix 

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IN2025I. 
Probably my fault, my fault. 

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I wanted to be back in the in 
the room here. 

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But yeah, Pat yesterday on with 
Pete's like, well, I know out 

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there you guys are saying you 
guys are spending 30 minutes on 

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these team photos, but we get 
there. 

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So just hang with us. 
We get there. 

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I think Pat is the one the call 
is from inside the house. 

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Pat is the one doing the 
roasting when it comes to. 

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Listen, I was at roasting the 
show. 

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I was dealing with the reality 
that YouTube was in revolt and I

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was I was pleading with the 
people, hey, stick with that 

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episode. 
I think it's a good because I 

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was seeing the comments, people 
were just like like literally on

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Spotify someone was like first 
time listener, they haven't 

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talked about football for 30 
minutes. 

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You guys you guys are so young, 
you're so young, you don't even 

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know not to worry about that. 
You guys, you'll you'll you'll 

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you'll mature over the years. 
We don't we don't care too much.

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I'm speaking for myself. 
Choose your fighter, Houston Joe

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Mixon. 
How bad is it I'm? 

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I'm ready to go to war here, but
I'm going to let these two have 

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the floor first. 
You're going to war for one of 

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these bombs. 
I am, I am, I'm ready to go for 

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war but I want to, I want to. 
I want to get your guys opinions

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first. 
Well, I don't think I'll be 

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drafting any of these guys. 
I've been drafting Nick Chubb 

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kind of all season, you know, 
even even have him on my my last

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call team. 
I was drafting when he was a 

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free agent and been been roundly
mocked. 

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But feel good now. 
If he starts moving up, up, up. 

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I'm not chasing that. 
You know, we saw the coach speak

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pretty clear. 
Braylon Allen has the whole life

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ahead of him. 
Nick Chubb does not have his 

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full life ahead of. 
Him that Damico Ryan's. 

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Comment I'm not going to get 
into Woody Marks. 

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He's a ridiculous prospect. 
And Damian Pierce. 

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I don't, I don't think that's 
happening. 

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So to me I think it's like 
either Mixon comes back at some 

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point and is fine, but I'm 
guessing probably just like an 

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inefficient version of himself 
or I I still think a Devon 

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Singletary trade is is pretty 
firmly in play here. 

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Oh, that's interesting. 
Yeah, I think mixing like when 

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you think about him now, first 
of all, like I have a decent 

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amount of mixing because when he
was going in the early 5th 

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before the Chubb signing, it was
like, you know, he's he's the 

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dude there. 
Like it's tough. 

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What's the case? 
And and you know, he's the thing

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he's. 
Go mixing bro. 

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The case against him is that 
he's Joe Mixon. 

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But that was the case against 
the number of guys who, like, 

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burned me super bad at cheap 
prices last year. 

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So I'm like, I actually, I at 
least need to come up with like,

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I need to have like a, you know,
a counter. 

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You know, there needs to be 
another version of reality that 

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I can like, see. 
So, you know, we had him like 

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lower than we would if he was 
like 25. 

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But it was still like, OK, I 
mean, he's he's a decent pick. 

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So then they sent Chubb. 
He's not such a great pick 

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there, but he he falls a bit. 
I was taking him some of the 5-6

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turn. 
Now I was tending to take like 

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RJ Harvey and Travian Henderson 
and really load up on those 

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guys. 
But I still have some mix in 

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there. 
Now. 

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I think you're looking at a 
missing like all of training 

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camp, maybe not coming back 
until early in the season, maybe

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missing some games in the 
regular season. 

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And he turns 29 this year. 
He's a, he's a bet on the status

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quo. 
Like he, he was very productive 

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at, at stretches last year, 
who's kind of wildly productive 

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at one point. 
And you, you just kind of want 

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nothing to change. 
But a lot of things are starting

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to change, including his health.
So I don't know. 

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I mean, like when I look at him 
versus Tony Pollard at at this 

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point, I'd rather have Pollard, 
you know, it, it comes, it, it 

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goes down and he needs to really
fall into like the hundreds for 

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me to really feel like he he's 
worth the risk. 

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Because I think you're I don't 
know. 

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I mean, Chubb is probably not 
it. 

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Woody Marks is not it. 
And so, yeah, like a singletary 

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trade or something is probably 
the path. 

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But there is the thing with 
Mixon that I think is becoming 

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evident to me is like this might
be the year where he's just 

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dust. 
Like where it's like, oh, David 

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Johnson, that was it. 
Like he's just not, he's just 

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done. 
You know, like we see this all 

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the time at running backwards. 
Like Yep, doesn't really matter 

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who the competition is 'cause 
this guy's dust girly and it's 

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afoot that he injured multiple 
times last year. 

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Injuries again. 
He won't. 

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He's on the NFI, by the way, 
Like, you know, it happened 

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this, this. 
Believe, you know, believe that 

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is a a contractual thing, I 
think. 

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There's. 
Well, it means he heard it like 

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on his own right? 
Like. 

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Or just not. 
Working out. 

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Working out, yeah, it just it. 
Just or or it could be it could 

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be an injury from last year that
is not healed like it. 

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It doesn't. 
I don't think the distinction at

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this point between NFI and POP 
is like. 

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I think that's right. 
I think that's right. 

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Guys who are working out at 
their facility days before camp 

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opened are on NFI sometimes. 
They're on the NFI too. 

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OK, all right, well, that 
doesn't matter then. 

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But the yeah, my feeling is 
basically like, we got our 

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mixing. 
We already have mixing. 

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And you know, if someone's 
seeing us like a free share of 

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mixing, OK. 
But for now, I I don't really 

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I'm I'm to the point where I'm 
just like, I think mixing just 

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might be a horrible pick. 
And so that and that's enough 

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because of his own profile 
looking scary as hell. 

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Now the chub stuff I'll get to. 
There was a quote I want to pull

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up, but but yeah, that's Romano 
Nixon. 

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I'm weirdly less scared than 
you, but maybe that's because I 

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have never drafted in the 
entire. 

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Yeah, it's because you haven't 
drafted him. 

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That's why because I, I just 
looked at him and I've just been

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like, he sucks at football and 
James Conner is great at 

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football. 
So I'm taking Connor every 

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single time. 
So I I've not selected Nixon at 

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all, but now I think I'm less 
scared like if he was, if he 

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gets into like the kind of path 
Pacheco and Swift into the Jalen

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Warren, Jordan Mason range, like
Brian Robinson range. 

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I'm I'm open minded to that. 
I mean, you had Aaron Wilson, 

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who's pretty tapped into. 
Houston says they still expected

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to be ready for Week 1. 
And if that's the case, like 

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then I think at the very least, 
like I, I will get my 4% 

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exposure mixing blanket at the 
best possible prices. 

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So I'm I'm open minded to that. 
I won't be going overboard 

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because I, I do think there's a 
pretty good chance that he's 

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just absolute nothing for like 
career at this point. 

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But I'm, I'm more open minded, I
think to dabbling in some like 

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round seven, round 8 Joe Mixon 
then you sound like you are. 

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Davis, you've been patient. 
Yeah, it'd have to be like 8-9 I

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think. 
This, this is an all time the 

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Slappies need to actually learn 
one of their own lessons, which 

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is that we continually say that 
running back production is given

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as opposed to earned. 
The running back who is Nacho 

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Mixon, who has the greatest 
amount of investment on the 

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Texans roster right now, that 
they've told us via their 

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decision making that they like 
the most is Woody Marks, who we 

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all think sucks and we're right.
We are right, Woody Marks. 

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A truly bad interior runner. 
But if we squinted with our 

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fancy little metrics and said 
actually Woody Marx is good at 

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this thing, and Woody Marx had a
slightly better combine. 

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Or if he'd broken like, I don't 
know, he only had like 305 

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rushes in college, so if he 
would have broken like 8 more 

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tackles, he'd look better in our
little spreadsheets. 

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I I think that there, and I'm 
not even saying that I'm right 

404
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about this, but I think there is
a strong chance that Woody marks

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is probably the correct 
archetype bet to make. 

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He's a rookie that they traded a
future third round pick to get. 

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He's the only member of this 
backfield who is younger than 

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the age of 28. 
I mean, I, I think, I think 

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Jacobs, I think Jacobs graphic 
is correct that, that Pierce is,

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is likely a State Farm 
candidate. 

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Yeah, I, I think, I think, I 
think Woody Marx is probably 

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bad. 
But I also think that many times

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in my life I have said, you 
know, I don't care if a guy's 

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bad as long as he gets the work.
And if Mixon were to miss Week 

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1, which obviously I don't think
is the most likely thing, I 

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think it's possible. 
I think Marx is outside of the 

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fact that we think he sucks and 
we're wrong about these things 

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all the time, he fits all the 
other checkmarks of the things 

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that we like. 
He catches passes, he's young. 

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He has a fair amount of draft 
capital invested in him by the 

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team. 
I, I just, I think it's AI think

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it might be a little bit of 
stubbornness to just be like, 

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you know what we're going to do,
let's draft Nick Chubb. 

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I I think I think drafting Nick 
Chubb is more stubborn than than

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than not drafting woody marks, 
if that makes sense. 

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I think Woody marks is 
definitely draftable now. 

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Woody marks actually have a 
decent amount of from early like

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I've got like may woody marks 
because I wasn't, I didn't want 

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to be fully on a mixing and it's
like, well, I guess Woody marks 

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could be good. 
That could be a reason that this

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mixing thing fails. 
So yeah, I I'm, I'm in. 

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I don't think he's a smash, you 
know, because I don't think he's

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good. 
But the backfield could be 

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pretty open. 
So yeah, I think that makes 

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sense. 
The Nick Chubb won the quote 

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there. 
It's so bold, it's so bare. 

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I've never, I've never, I've 
never read he. 

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He does not have his full life 
ahead of him. 

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Extended is not the word you 
want. 

440
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This is from Coach Peak Index on
Nick Chubb Guy's age. 

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That's how he starts Guy Guy's 
age. 

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That's the most fair thing I've 
ever heard. 

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It's fucking. 
July No Read, read, read the 

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whole quote because. 
It it, I don't want to. 

445
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,880
I just I had to stop. 
It's OK. 

446
00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,720
Here we go to become Ryan's the 
number one pick on the coach. 

447
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:02,400
Jeff guy's age, he's been 
through a lot. 

448
00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,320
It's not always going to be the 
same as his early years in the 

449
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:12,280
NFL. 
Jesus Christ, when I hang my hat

450
00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,480
on with him is that this guy 
loves football. 

451
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,240
Uh. 
Oh. 

452
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,280
What is he going to coach? 
He's I was going to. 

453
00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:25,880
Say he is describing a running 
backs coach like he is having 

454
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:30,560
current deuce daily. 
He plays and prepares the right 

455
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:32,520
way. 
Really sharp guy in the 

456
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,880
protection scheme. 
No, definitely. 

457
00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,480
Showed up in pads today. 
No, he can play physical behind 

458
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:41,120
his pads. 
He can eat out yardage. 

459
00:23:41,120 --> 00:23:43,840
I'm pretty sure he meant eek, 
but. 

460
00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,040
It's really out. 
Yardage. 

461
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,360
We don't want to hear that word 
either. 

462
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:48,880
I. 
Love hearing that. 

463
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:51,360
I'm excited to see him play 
football. 

464
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:52,920
It's starting. 
It's starting to come back. 

465
00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,840
He's still Oh no, here we go. 
He's still working his way back.

466
00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,480
He looks like he's in really 
good shape. 

467
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,800
That's that was I've never seen.
As bad as it gets, that's as bad

468
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,280
as it gets. 
You're not going to hear a coach

469
00:24:06,120 --> 00:24:09,840
be more bearish on a 29 year old
running backs ability than 

470
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:11,480
saying. 
No one has ever been more 

471
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,400
watched. 
Eat is bad. 

472
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:16,320
Eat. 
Eat is not the word you want no 

473
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:19,520
matter how you spell it either. 
Way I was open to the Chubb a 

474
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:24,000
songs more than most just from 
like, I'm like this guy's like a

475
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:28,640
Hall of Fame level talent. 
Like he has been through a lot. 

476
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,720
Maybe there's more in there. 
He has aged. 

477
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,920
Maybe there's more in there than
than we're giving credit for 

478
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,640
like it's year to post the 
injury. 

479
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:42,080
But after hearing that quote, 
no, not not interested. 

480
00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:45,360
That's like, that's like what 
the Patriots coaching staff said

481
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:48,760
about Zeke. 
That's like, that's like, you 

482
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,800
know what? 
That's what D'amico Ryan's is 

483
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,280
going to say about Devin 
Singletary after they trade for 

484
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:56,160
him. 
Yeah, honestly. 

485
00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:57,560
Oh, no, I think no, no. 
Wait, I. 

486
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,240
Don't know he will look. 
He'll look like a spring chicken

487
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:03,240
when he goes to. 
No, I will say even better one, 

488
00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:07,760
you could swap that quote with 
the name Dare Ogumbawale and it 

489
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:11,040
would you'd be like absolutely. 
It's the same thing. 

490
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,960
Spider man meme Nick Jubb Dare 
Ogumbawale. 

491
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,840
Dabigo Ryan's who I think turned
41 himself yesterday, You know, 

492
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,840
yeah, he might feel like he, 
he's ready, readier to play. 

493
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,480
I don't know than. 
I want to see Nick Job versus 

494
00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:27,320
D'amico. 
Ryan's in an Oklahoma drill, 

495
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:28,440
right? 
Now I. 

496
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,560
I don't, I don't think, I don't 
think the market can handle what

497
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:33,080
that would look like. 
Yeah. 

498
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:37,680
So basically my point is the 
only one who fits our slappy 

499
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:41,120
architecture is what he marks. 
We just all have this opinion 

500
00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:43,480
that he's bad, but like what if 
he's not bad? 

501
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:50,200
Yeah, I mean, I'll give you the 
best thing I can say for your 

502
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:53,640
point, which I've now just moved
Woody Marks up after hearing 

503
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:58,720
against my will. 
Is that, like, imagine if they 

504
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:01,040
took DJ Giddens. 
Where would they? 

505
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,320
Draft DJ Giddens. 
And how it would be like the 8th

506
00:26:03,360 --> 00:26:04,720
like we. 
Would be drafted. 

507
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,400
It would be like 8th or. 
Only the 8th but it but Jacob, 

508
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,760
we just have to admit we get 
this stuff wrong about talent 

509
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,600
all the time. 
All the time. 

510
00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:13,280
Yeah, you're right. 
Yeah. 

511
00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,800
Yep. 
And it's like it's like, yeah, 

512
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,200
like should we draft DJ Giddens 
in this scenario higher than 

513
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,120
marks? 
Like obviously, and by a lot. 

514
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:24,840
But you're right that yeah, if 
if they had DJ Giddens is a 

515
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,120
fourth round pick on this team 
in this situation. 

516
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,440
If they traded a third round. 
Of each third literally 8 round 

517
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:33,160
pick. 
We would be windmilling him at 

518
00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:35,920
any cost and we would be coming 
up with any sort of rationale 

519
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,320
why it makes sense to draft him 
in like the seventh round if we 

520
00:26:38,320 --> 00:26:41,680
needed to. 
We probably draft Woody Marks in

521
00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,200
the 17th and the 18th. 
We probably can, yeah. 

522
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,880
There, if there is a move 
coming, it's going to mean a 

523
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,360
lot. 
Whoever it is, singletary or 

524
00:26:50,360 --> 00:26:53,240
someone better jumps right up. 
It's not going to be a rookie, 

525
00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,400
but somebody that we like a 
little bit, it'll mean a lot 

526
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,400
because it'll be a bad sign on 
mixing, it'll be a bad sign on 

527
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:03,320
Chubb if we need more of either 
and somebody that they do, they 

528
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,240
do that pretty soon. 
I mean, there's still six weeks 

529
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:08,920
to go before the season. 
That player could fit right into

530
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,080
the middle of these these 
boards, I think, whoever it is. 

531
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:15,120
Well, that that would be the the
one thing with with Mark's that 

532
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:17,360
that does work, man. 
You know, let the record show 

533
00:27:17,360 --> 00:27:22,760
we, we are, you know, about 15 
picks ahead of Mark's ADP have 

534
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:26,120
them like right around 200. 
So we, I agree with Davis 

535
00:27:26,120 --> 00:27:28,520
generally, you might be more 
aggressive in terms of how much 

536
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,720
marks you're trying to get. 
I I think he just moved. 

537
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,400
Him up. 
I just moved him up to 190 after

538
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,640
hearing Davis somatic talk and 
doing some self reflection. 

539
00:27:38,120 --> 00:27:41,440
The the thing I would note with 
Marks is that like when you look

540
00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:46,320
at his profile, he he profiled 
as kind of a 1/3 down back. 

541
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,400
He ran a ton of routes. 
He wasn't super efficient, but 

542
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,560
he ran a ton of routes. 
He had receiving production, no.

543
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,440
He he legit sucks. 
His his he has a horrible career

544
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,120
elusive rating. 
His elusiveness per game, which 

545
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,680
factors in how much work he was 
getting is awful breakaway 

546
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,080
percentage, awful breakaway 
yards per game awful. 

547
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,960
This just doesn't like really 
offer much as a runner. 

548
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:13,840
But that's also backed up like 
when I was listening to to 

549
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,240
people breakdown the film and 
stuff like he is. 

550
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:22,280
He was viewed as a third down 
back by concern for Mark's at 

551
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,840
this point would be it is still 
July. 

552
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,280
Like they might trade for 
singletary, they might trade for

553
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,320
ETN, They might do something 
like that, right. 

554
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,600
So is he just going to return to
the shadow realm, you know, and 

555
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,520
be kind of this uninspiring 
third down back? 

556
00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,400
I don't want to get too 
aggressive with him because the 

557
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,080
situation is is maybe bad enough
where they actually have to add 

558
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,560
a back and if they had a 
singletary like it's so over for

559
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,920
Marx. 
I'll say two things that are are

560
00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:56,240
favorable for Marx. 1 is like 
because he is so bad at 

561
00:28:56,240 --> 00:28:59,520
everything else, it only makes 
sense that they made the trade 

562
00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,240
they did if they at least intend
to use him as their third down 

563
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,920
back. 
So I think he will be their 

564
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,840
third down back almost 
regardless. 

565
00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:12,040
And that is like not a great way
to spend around 1718 pick, but 

566
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,160
it's like he could basically be 
Justice Hill even without an 

567
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,520
injury or Kenny Gainwell from 
around 1718, which is like not 

568
00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:21,920
good, but it's not like 
completely nothing. 

569
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:26,440
So like it's not the worst worst
case scenario even if he gets 

570
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,480
nothing else. 
I'll also say this kind of 

571
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,640
happened last year where they 
add Mixon as the lead. 

572
00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:39,000
Back then they initially 
intended for Acres or Pierce to 

573
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,120
be the RV 2 and Dare to be the 
third down back. 

574
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:46,160
Nixon gets hurt and they just 
weren't accomplishing anything 

575
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,800
with Mix or with Acres or 
Pierce. 

576
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,080
And Dare ended up playing like a
third down plus role where he 

577
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,640
was actually kind of usable 
because he was getting like 

578
00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:57,760
about half the carries. 
Because they just kind of 

579
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,280
figured like we'd rather just 
play with our third down back 

580
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:02,480
than using one of these 
completely useless running backs

581
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,800
who's not giving us anything and
announces what we're doing on 

582
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,920
every play. 
And so maybe a similar thing 

583
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:10,000
could happen with Chubb where 
they're they try him out, but it

584
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,240
ends up being he just gets like 
20% of the snaps and marks is 

585
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,720
kind of doing what Dare did when
Mixon was hurt last year. 

586
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,440
And like he's probably at least 
as kind of a runner as Dare 

587
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,880
Goomawale. 
So like, that was kind of 

588
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,200
usable. 
I I do agree though, that yeah, 

589
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,440
the the best case and worst case
scenarios have an uncomfortable 

590
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:32,920
amount of overlap where Woody 
needs victory to be hurt pretty 

591
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:37,960
badly to hit in a big way. 
And if he's hurt pretty badly in

592
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:41,200
a big way, there is a running 
back out there who the Giants 

593
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,640
would surely trade for a 27 
seventh. 

594
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,000
Yeah, I don't know if they would
actually. 

595
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,840
So I actually would like to I 
liked your I liked your initial 

596
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:51,640
idea. 
I my guess is is that when your 

597
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:56,800
running backs are turtle from 
entourage and concerted wide 

598
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:00,480
receiver, I'm actually going to 
guess for a seventh round pick 

599
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:04,200
you you probably don't. 
I'm going to guess that Brian 

600
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,840
Dabel is is would would really 
like to just keep. 

601
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:12,080
You know, Singletary is a good 
locker room guy. 

602
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,160
I mean they literally call him 
motor. 

603
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:17,880
I'm going to guess a twenty 27th
7th is not going to get it done.

604
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,760
I think you have to do at least 
a fifth round of it. 

605
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,080
Probably. 
I'm being dead ass. 

606
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,240
I know I just, I might be done 
drafting scataboo now like that 

607
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:27,440
was. 
That was unbelievable. 

608
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,360
That was wrong. 
Turtle from Entourage. 

609
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:31,640
I don't think I can come back 
for that. 

610
00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:33,360
That's exactly what he looks 
like. 

611
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,920
And there's your Here's your 
half hour mark. 

612
00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,400
No team picture. 
It looks like it looks like the 

613
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:41,640
guy, like turtle was based on 
that guy. 

614
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:48,400
Evolutionary turtle? 
Am I turtle enough for the 

615
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,560
turtle? 
As he starts doing Turtley stuff

616
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,320
but he like believes in it more,
you know there's more slack to 

617
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,040
it. 
Let's get to the risers. 

618
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,040
Here I am, I'm doing my part. 
I've even kept the open short. 

619
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,760
For Dave kept the very short. 
Let me run them down. 

620
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:10,920
Bijon Robinson at the top of 
this list, a slight tick up in 

621
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,560
the early first round. 
Jefferson injury. 

622
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,680
Oh, Marion Hampton, Elijah Royal
with fans release, Nick Chubb. 

623
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,160
There he is again. 
CD Lamb also Jefferson probably 

624
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:24,120
motivated and Mecca Buca has 
been a big one to talk about. 

625
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,360
Dylan Sampson, Chase Brown, 
Stephon Diggs. 

626
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,320
Let's use this to talk about 
Jefferson. 

627
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,600
I would say, what are we doing? 
Slurping the dipper down. 

628
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,040
I I didn't. 5 or 6 I did not. 
I did not. 

629
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:38,720
Move. 
I did not. 

630
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,920
Well, I mean, like guys like, 
let's just be honest, like we, 

631
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,040
we were, we were, well, maybe, 
maybe I guess Davis is like a 

632
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:47,720
true believer. 
I didn't know Pat was. 

633
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,120
I was only drafting him at 2:00 
because that's what the market 

634
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,040
was doing in the 1st place. 
I never thought he actually 

635
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:53,920
should have been two. 
I just didn't want 0. 

636
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,840
So I just moved him down to now 
like where I actually think he 

637
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:01,280
should be ranked which is 6. 
Behind Lamb. 

638
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:02,680
Why? 
Why? 

639
00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:07,520
Why 6? 
Well, so like gun to my head, I 

640
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,560
think Jamir Gibbs always should 
have been the one O 2. 

641
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:14,160
And I like every time that I'm 
in a big money like single entry

642
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:17,240
draft, I just take Jamir Gibbs 
at the one O 2 or the one O 3 as

643
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:19,840
Davis would know, because I was 
accidentally in a bulldog with 

644
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:25,600
him that he was streaming and I 
think Lamb projects better than 

645
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:28,360
him. 
Has has scored more points than 

646
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:30,960
Jefferson points per game the 
last two years combined. 

647
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,000
And then did I move, bark? 
Do I have Barkley over him? 

648
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,680
Let me double check. 
Yeah, I do. 

649
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,400
I have Barkley over him as well.
Who's the blind seal now, man? 

650
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,120
Not Jacob. 
I was, I was thinking about 

651
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,280
putting puka over him, but then 
Stafford got hurt. 

652
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,200
So so I had to keep, keep 
Jefferson into puka. 

653
00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:53,640
I I just look at it as there he 
like last year. 

654
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,000
His his production was not it 
was not on the level of the 

655
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,680
elite running backs and over the
last two years C DS out produced

656
00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,000
him. 
His production wasn't on the 

657
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Puka's level either. 
He's still absolutely fantastic,

658
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:12,199
but for splitting hairs at the 
very top of drafts, it is a 

659
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:14,320
rookie quarterback that I 
suspect will succeed. 

660
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:16,760
I do kind of believe that 
they're going to run the ball 

661
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,239
more like I look at the Mason 
stuff, the interior online 

662
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,199
stuff. 
I've gotten convinced that their

663
00:34:21,199 --> 00:34:23,880
PR ES going to fall by a couple 
points this year, not 

664
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,440
dramatically, but by a couple 
points. 

665
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:30,600
And I think that they are going 
to be very good at football. 

666
00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:32,480
I think they're going to be 
winning a lot of games. 

667
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:35,600
So I'm I'm just I just think 
he's a little murkier than the 

668
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,800
rest of that top six group. 
And so I don't know why I would 

669
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:41,760
take the additional risk with 
injury on on Jefferson. 

670
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:46,360
How about that? 
He's the best wide receiver in 

671
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,639
the NFL by like, a lot of. 
But not by a lot. 

672
00:34:49,639 --> 00:34:52,800
Vintage. 
Well, yeah, we're just career 10

673
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:55,760
more yards per game than every 
other player in the National 

674
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,320
Football League. 
So to me, that would seem to 

675
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,320
indicate a level of performance 
that you can make excuses for 

676
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:07,320
Jamarcus, You can make oh, oh, 
Lamb had, oh, his quarterback 

677
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:10,520
was I, I think, I think it's 
actually not. 

678
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:16,360
But like, that's because he was 
better than CD Lamb by a lot 

679
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,480
earlier in their careers. 
But Lamb has closed the gap not 

680
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,000
because Jefferson's gotten 
worse, but just like Jefferson 

681
00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:26,000
hit as close to 100 percentile 
outcome as you could possibly 

682
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,160
early day one. 
And he should be commended by 

683
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,880
that. 
But we're not drafting in 2020 

684
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,480
anymore. 
And CD Lamb has closed the gap 

685
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,920
where he's not that much worse 
anymore, but he's in a better 

686
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:38,760
situation and he's not hurt. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

687
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,280
I don't find that convincing at 
all, but I think you. 

688
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:44,000
Are. 
I think you're, I mean, I don't 

689
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:45,160
think you're, I don't think 
you're wrong. 

690
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:50,360
I, I have no interest in moving 
Justin Jefferson to my rankings 

691
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:56,320
based on a mild hamstring train.
I will re evaluate my options if

692
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:01,720
he is still not practicing on 
August 6th, but as of right now 

693
00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:06,800
I am I'm I'm Diporino slurping. 
I like Jacob's point about PROE 

694
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,480
when you're laying all that out.
Yeah, it's JJ McCarthy, who 

695
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,760
never threw a pass in college as
the starting quarterback. 

696
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,160
Maybe they just don't go all in 
on, you know, 4045 passes a 

697
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,040
week. 
And if they're good, of course, 

698
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:23,400
that lines up too. 
I had this discussion with Rhoda

699
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,080
Patton and Denny on the Rotor 
World podcast. 

700
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,640
Kevin O'Connell, I think is so 
consistent with with having a 

701
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,120
tilt of the past that I I pretty
I'm very skeptical that they are

702
00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,680
like he. 
He had a positive PROE when Josh

703
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:40,880
Dobbs was his quarterback. 
Yeah, like negative, but like I 

704
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,560
just thought they're going to be
as positive. 

705
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,520
That that's fair. 
And I also think what we were 

706
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,360
kind of talking out there is 
that the defense is good enough 

707
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,480
that we're like, even if you 
have a one 2% PROE, you might 

708
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:54,960
not have a ton of pass attempts 
because the expected pass rate's

709
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:55,560
low. 
So and. 

710
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,120
What happened to Jefferson last 
year? 

711
00:36:57,800 --> 00:36:59,920
Yeah, that that could be a 
concern for sure. 

712
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,560
I also think though, that one of
the things that happened with 

713
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,800
Jefferson last year's like 
Darnold didn't feed him in the 

714
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,600
way that Darnold was better than
we thought, but he didn't like 

715
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,640
feed Jefferson in a way that. 
In any way, shape or form. 

716
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,000
Yeah, so McCarthy offers some 
risk. 

717
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:21,560
I also think he offers like some
sneaky upside that maybe people 

718
00:37:21,560 --> 00:37:24,360
don't realize because Darnold 
was a lot more functional than 

719
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:27,880
we all thought he'd be. 
But if he like, walks into 

720
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:29,920
Jefferson a little bit more, 
that could be pretty. 

721
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,520
That could be a big, big deal 
last. 

722
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:36,120
Last year was his last year. 
Jefferson had 1600 yards and 10 

723
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:42,360
touchdowns, and it was his 
lowest target share as a Vikings

724
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:46,160
starter. 
Last year, just quickly Pat, 

725
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,120
last year I did the purple 
insider podcast every week with 

726
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:50,840
Matthew Collars. 
We talked about the Vikings 

727
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,560
every week. 
I'll be back with him again this

728
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:55,880
year. 
And the August narrative with 

729
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:59,200
Darnold was always people amazed
by the arm talent like he'd been

730
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:03,680
given up on as a player. 
But the the guy can throw the 

731
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,960
ball and he's got a coach who 
wants to do it. 

732
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:09,640
I don't know how that compares 
with McCarthy exactly. 

733
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:13,440
I just know what we saw in 
college when he last played and 

734
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,720
it was, you know, of course, 
kind of the polar opposite 

735
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:18,880
approach to football 
offensively, but very, very 

736
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,040
limited. 
So if it takes down a little, I 

737
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,840
would not be. 
Limited in terms of how many 

738
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:24,680
throws he had. 
But McCarthy, he's got a good, 

739
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,600
he's got a good arm. 
He's I mean, and they're hyping,

740
00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:29,200
they're hyping him up. 
There was some play where he 

741
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,320
scrambled around a little bit 
and they're like, is he, is he 

742
00:38:31,400 --> 00:38:33,200
Holmes? 
It's like, no, he's not. 

743
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:38,200
Dude if Mahomes made that throw 
it would a lead Sports Center. 

744
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,800
Yeah, that's right. 
That's what it was just to this 

745
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:44,720
point on Jefferson because I, I 
was looking at this for 

746
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:46,560
something else and it's like 
really jumped out to me 

747
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,720
yesterday, two years ago. 
If you look at 1st St. target 

748
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:53,720
rate he had, which is like 
generally something I look at to

749
00:38:53,720 --> 00:38:57,280
see like how big a kind of piece
of the offensive design someone 

750
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,960
is. 
But it's also like quarterback 

751
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:02,880
related too, because the 
quarterback decides who gets the

752
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:05,720
target ultimately. 
He had a 24 percent first rate 

753
00:39:05,720 --> 00:39:08,440
target rate two years ago. 
Only players higher, CD Lamb, 

754
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:10,160
A.J. 
Brown, Tyree Kill, Demonte 

755
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:14,800
Adams. 
That dropped to 17%, which is 

756
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:19,960
like kind of middling, not 
particularly impressive, like 

757
00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:24,160
17%. 
Tyree Kill fell off to 17%. 

758
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,280
It was part of his big decline. 
Devonte Smith was there. 

759
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,400
Garrett Wilson was there, 
Brandon Iuke, Jacoby Myers, 

760
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:35,080
Michael Pittman, Adam Thielen 
and Wandale Robinson were at 

761
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,720
were at 17%. 
So he wasn't like he wasn't 

762
00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:39,640
getting fed. 
This is that. 

763
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,640
When I say he wasn't getting 
fed, that's that's what I'm 

764
00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:44,640
referring to. 
Like he he earned a bunch of 

765
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,240
targets. 
So like to be as efficient as he

766
00:39:47,240 --> 00:39:51,720
was with that low level of first
rate targets is still super 

767
00:39:51,720 --> 00:39:53,520
impressive. 
He still looks like an 

768
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:57,960
incredible receiver, but the 
offense wasn't like flowing 

769
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,840
through him by design or at 
least by execution in the way 

770
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,840
that you'd expect. 
I do think that McCarthy 

771
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,320
actually offers like a little 
bit of upside in that regard, as

772
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,800
well as some serious downside 
because he might suck so they 

773
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:12,000
might not be able to defeat him.
But anyway. 

774
00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,720
They also have the same weapons.
Do not get concerned though, 

775
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,920
like Addison starts last year, 
he gets hurt in camp and then I 

776
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:22,400
think he gets re injured in week
1 and then it takes a little 

777
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:24,520
while to scale up over the 
second-half of the season. 

778
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:27,920
This is taken directly from 
Gretsch the their targets. 

779
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:31,000
I forgot what week cut off 
Gretsch used, but it was like 80

780
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,440
to 70 was the Jefferson to 
Addison targets. 

781
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,720
And like Addison's really good, 
super productive college 

782
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,920
prospect, Belitnikov winner, 
year two player. 

783
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:41,800
I know he'll be probably 
suspended for the first two or 

784
00:40:41,800 --> 00:40:48,320
three games, but I think that 
like, that's like, what if Chase

785
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:52,920
and Higgins were placed in an 
offense that throws 100 fewer 

786
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,960
passes and has TJ Hawkinson? 
That's kinda how I feel about 

787
00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,120
Jefferson as the Chase in that. 
Scenario, I don't think, I guess

788
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,720
my thing. 
I don't think Addison's nearly 

789
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,160
as good as Higgins and I don't 
think he's nearly as good as 

790
00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:08,040
Pickens, so. 
I I disagree with that. 

791
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,720
I disagree with that Pretty big.
I, I think, I think the reason 

792
00:41:10,720 --> 00:41:15,400
we don't view Addison that well 
is that because when he was 

793
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:19,120
drafted, Jefferson was already 
full blown mega * whereas 

794
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,400
Higgins got a chance to 
establish himself before Chase 

795
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,280
came in and then Chase usurped 
him over time. 

796
00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,240
Whereas Addison's been playing 
on like expert mode from the 

797
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:30,000
beginning. 
I, I, I disagree with that. 

798
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,720
I think if Addison and T&T 
Higgins were on the same team, I

799
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:34,920
think Addison would go band for 
band with him. 

800
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:37,840
I don't think so at all. 
I think. 

801
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,480
I think he's he's like our 
generation's Hollywood Brown. 

802
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:45,320
No. 
I I couldn't disagree more on. 

803
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:46,880
That OK, You had me. 
You had me. 

804
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,680
This is a mega producer in 
college who won a Bollitnikoff 

805
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,360
award. 
Yeah, came in next to, so was 

806
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,240
Brad Receiver immediately. 
That was the first round. 

807
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:55,600
Pick. 
Yeah, it was nothing compared to

808
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:59,800
the prospect that Addison was, 
and Addison came in with Justin 

809
00:41:59,800 --> 00:42:03,200
Jefferson instantly and started 
producing and has had 19 

810
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,280
touchdowns in two years. 
Yeah, Brown was good. 

811
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:08,640
This is Marcus Brown erasure as.
Close to as good. 

812
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,360
This is ridiculous. 
Brown was Brown was a first 

813
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:12,280
round pick. 
People. 

814
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,600
Lost the pick? 
People produced right away. 

815
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,800
Hollywood was awesome. 
Hollywood was awesome Hollywood.

816
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:17,840
Let's not say that's how. 
You. 

817
00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,600
Oh, OK. 
All right. 

818
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,560
No, Jacob, you're gonna OK. 
I was there. 

819
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:23,800
He was fun. 
You forget. 

820
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,200
Yeah. 
You went to Oklahoma, Davis. 

821
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,680
We fucking get it. 
Yeah, Boomer. 

822
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,160
Sooner he was incredible OK all 
right the the kids the kids are 

823
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,200
gonna have forgotten this how 
good that Hollywood brown was he

824
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,440
was he was legitimately. 
In 1997, I thought. 

825
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,760
You, you forget how young, you 
forget how young this audience 

826
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,240
skews. 
They absolutely were not there 

827
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:48,400
for 2018. 
University of Oklahoma with 

828
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,160
Kyler Murray. 
Dude, he was unreal. 

829
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:54,960
He out produced CD Lamb. 
They were on the team together. 

830
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,440
He was better than CD. 
Come on man. 

831
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,560
He's good. 
He's a good prospect and he 

832
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,160
produced. 
He was, frankly, he was a lot 

833
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:05,440
more efficient than than Addison
was in his first two years. 

834
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,440
This is Jacob. 
This is an outrageous opinion. 

835
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:12,760
Fantastic. 
There's nothing questions. 

836
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,920
OK, so, so we're doing so Johan 
Dotson. 

837
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,280
I got some Johan Dotson to sell 
you. 

838
00:43:17,320 --> 00:43:18,920
Yeah. 
Well, how did Johan Dotson 

839
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,880
second year ago, did you 
continue progressing that second

840
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:23,920
year or did he fall, fall right 
off the earth? 

841
00:43:27,960 --> 00:43:30,760
OK. 
I just I'm not gonna I I don't 

842
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,440
even care about the original 
argument. 

843
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:35,480
I just need it on the record. 
Hollywood would his his NFL 

844
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,200
career has gone a direction that
I did not anticipate it, but he 

845
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,240
out produced sedarian Lamb when 
they were teammates at the 

846
00:43:43,240 --> 00:43:44,880
University of Oklahoma. 
I I'm not gonna. 

847
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,520
Look at the age difference 
between them at the time. 

848
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,200
Is that relevant or? 
Hollywood was Hollywood was 8 is

849
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,760
8 months older than Lamb I 
believe. 

850
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:53,960
All right, OK. 
Congrats, Hollywood Brown. 

851
00:43:54,040 --> 00:43:56,360
I'm sorry for Smirchy your 
prospect profile. 

852
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:57,880
You. 
That's all I don't even care 

853
00:43:57,880 --> 00:43:59,440
about. 
And early career production. 

854
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,640
He he had 7 touchdowns as a 
rookie and eight touchdowns. 

855
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,320
I think he, I think. 
He had second season he. 

856
00:44:07,240 --> 00:44:10,480
He had like 27 fantasy points, 
his first ever NFL game. 

857
00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,160
Miami, he was. 
He was significant. 

858
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:15,240
More efficient in yards per hour
run he like produced. 

859
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,680
Then even of your argument, even
if your argument is that 

860
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:22,280
Hollywood Brown was a better 
prospect and had a a better 

861
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,880
start to his career that I gave 
him credit for, which is is fair

862
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:29,960
that he then collapsed from that
height like that. 

863
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:31,400
That should have been the 
expectation. 

864
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,680
Like we're expecting Addison to 
follow that same trajectory. 

865
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,040
Why? 
No, no, no, I actually, I'm not 

866
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,440
saying that even he had 1000 
yards in his third season. 

867
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:40,880
He won. 
He won 91, a 1006. 

868
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:45,200
I just don't think I think 
Addison is kind of limited in 

869
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,320
like what he is like he's he's 
like a good professional 

870
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,720
receiver that pretty much every 
team would be happy to have. 

871
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,200
You know, I guess every team 
would be happy to have some 

872
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,600
teams could use him more than 
others, but you know, I don't 

873
00:44:56,600 --> 00:45:00,240
think he's like T Higgins would 
be a star number one on another 

874
00:45:00,240 --> 00:45:02,080
team. 
I think Pickens is capable of 

875
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,920
being like a true star number 
one if given the chance and 

876
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,360
we'll see it. 
You know, maybe he can even 

877
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,840
produce like a number one with 
with the situation in Dallas. 

878
00:45:09,840 --> 00:45:12,240
I'm hoping he can. 
I, I don't think Addison's that 

879
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:14,360
type of player. 
I think he's like a good 

880
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,280
secondary complimentary receiver
that makes an offense better. 

881
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,280
Like he's, he's a needle mover 
from a real life perspective, 

882
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:22,120
but I, I don't think he's like a
star in the making. 

883
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,240
How high are we willing to go on
Ibuka? 

884
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,120
Hi. 
I moved him up. 

885
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,440
I moved him ahead of Godwin and 
my stuff. 

886
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:36,080
I moved him into the Matthew 
Golden Jaden Reed range, which 

887
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,320
is different than the range of 
which they're drafted because 

888
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:42,840
I've Reed and Golden both ahead 
of ADP pretty significantly. 

889
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,520
Like 70 Davis or? 
I, I literally have my rankings 

890
00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:49,560
pulled up right now. 
So I can tell you I have Emeka 

891
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:54,480
Igbuka ranked. 
Where do I have him? 

892
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,200
I have Emeka Igbuka ranked at 
71. 

893
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:01,440
Damn. 
Wow, Oh my God. 

894
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:02,760
Wow. 
Holy smokes. 

895
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,480
End of 6. 
Here here's here's my order. 

896
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,640
You guys, you guys tell me if 
you think this is is improper 

897
00:46:09,240 --> 00:46:11,080
starting 70. 9 I don't have any 
thought of that. 

898
00:46:11,360 --> 00:46:15,600
Starting at pick 67, I have 
Jordan Addison, Ricky Pearsall, 

899
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:21,080
Diggs, Debo Pacheco, Igbuca, 
Golden Reed, Judy Swift, Myers 

900
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,440
Montgomery, La Porta, Pollard 
Downs. 

901
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:29,280
I I have a book at 78 and 
actually I think that might be a

902
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,720
touch low. 
I was going to say, that's all. 

903
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:33,960
That's all a big. 
Here a little bit. 

904
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,600
That's a That's a big fat tear. 
There's there's guys I don't 

905
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,960
care about that I can move my 
head up. 

906
00:46:39,760 --> 00:46:43,360
You're you're telling me you're 
telling me you want to take like

907
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,480
if you told me I'm too low on 
Debo. 

908
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,160
Sure, whatever. 
I I would hear that. 

909
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:49,400
All right. 
Am I am I too low on Judy? 

910
00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,880
Come. 
On I just moved him from 79 to 

911
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,960
74. 
I moved from 79 to 74. 

912
00:46:56,960 --> 00:47:00,560
I just moved him ahead of 
DeAndre Swift, Jacoby Myers, 

913
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:04,080
Debo Samuel and Josh Downs. 
So I actually should I should 

914
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,000
move Downs a little lower 
because I think. 

915
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,840
You're I'm actually like the 
typing you heard was me moving 

916
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:10,800
down downs. 
Yeah, Downs. 

917
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,760
Downs has a little, a lot. 
He has a lot to lose if 

918
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,520
Richardson starts. 
I mean, I don't think it affects

919
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:18,520
them that much because I think 
they were both going to play no 

920
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,360
matter who starts Week 1. 
But I I do think it's now 

921
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,040
looking more like Richardson. 
I'm more concerned like the 

922
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,840
thing that there's different 
ways that Richardson could be 

923
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:32,600
named the starter and this is 
like the worst way he gets hurt.

924
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,480
He re aggravates his shoulder. 
So now there's like murkiness 

925
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,720
about like what's his shoulder 
going to do all year? 

926
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:42,520
And then Jones gets like fully 
installed and assumed to be the 

927
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:44,160
number one. 
They're like our season rides 

928
00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:47,680
with Daniel Jones and then they 
get out to training camp and 

929
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,680
Daniel Jones like sucks so hard.
And then they go to to 

930
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:52,840
Richardson. 
It's like, oh, he's more 

931
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:54,400
healthy. 
Like we could maybe consider 

932
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,040
starting him. 
And he also sucks so hard. 

933
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,440
And they're like, I was 
listening to Greg Rosenthal talk

934
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:02,320
about with Nick shook on on his 
pot. 

935
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:06,080
And they're like Greg was like, 
Oh, listen, I know you know, JJ 

936
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,800
Watt did this whole rant about 
like stats and all this stuff at

937
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,280
from these practices. 
But like, I think they went like

938
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:16,200
like 8 for 18 or 7 for 18 or 
something in one of these 

939
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,080
practices. 
And he's just like, that's like 

940
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:20,040
almost impossible. 
Like there's not. 

941
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:22,960
You should be able to complete 
these passes like. 

942
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:26,120
Yeah, it's probably not the same
as Aaron Rodgers throwing a pick

943
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:28,440
on the first play and people 
saying do it on purpose. 

944
00:48:28,720 --> 00:48:31,320
This is not a decent sample of 
them not being able to complete 

945
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,320
passes in in like super easy 
environments to complete passes.

946
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,760
This is definitely AI will I 
was. 

947
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,600
Here a moment we. 
Had lots of this 10 years ago 

948
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,800
prior to. 
That I will say that they they 

949
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,800
combined for 11:50 in the first 
day of padded practices and both

950
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,280
were apparently drops. 
OK. 

951
00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:48,000
All right. 
That's good. 

952
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,240
I like that. 
But they're I don't work any 

953
00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:52,000
completions of more than 10 
yards. 

954
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:55,640
So that's that's less good. 
But Richardson? 

955
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:57,080
Apparently is Jacob for 
Richardson. 

956
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,480
Well, this is the thing I care. 
So that's great. 

957
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:03,200
So like Richardson, they've 
they've said like he is 

958
00:49:03,200 --> 00:49:05,800
basically said like he's like, 
I'm not trying to throw deep 

959
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:07,720
anymore. 
Like the coaching staff knows 

960
00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:09,560
that I can throw deep. 
I know I can throw deep. 

961
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,600
I need to prove to them I can 
throw short. 

962
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,040
So he's like forcing himself to 
just throw slants, right? 

963
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:18,240
Now that's a shocking amount of 
self-awareness for me. 

964
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:21,080
That is that's true, which is it
is a shocking amount of 

965
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:23,200
self-awareness. 
So like he's he's just like 

966
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:26,520
trying to throw short right now,
which is very funny. 

967
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:28,600
And then Daniel Jones to 
throwing short because he's 

968
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,440
Daniel Jones. 
But like, read the quotes about 

969
00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,720
Daniel Jones is like, so it's 
just so believable because it's 

970
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:40,080
like exactly what I've seen out 
of Daniel Jones, which is 

971
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,240
they'll say like, yeah, like 
it's not that he's inaccurate. 

972
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:45,600
He's just late and the timing is
off. 

973
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:49,760
And so it's just always like 
behind guys or like he's not 

974
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,120
seemingly trying to push the 
ball down field. 

975
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,280
There's guys that are open, but 
he's just trying to check the 

976
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,960
ball down. 
It's like, yeah, that's that 

977
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:02,840
sounds like Dan Jones to me. 
So it's not it's, it's 

978
00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:05,840
discouraging that like every 
article I'm reading each day is 

979
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:09,280
like, yeah, Richardson is the 
leader, but it's not cuz he's 

980
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,720
playing good. 
It's cuz Daniel Jones is playing

981
00:50:11,720 --> 00:50:14,040
a lot worse. 
Who could have predicted this? 

982
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:15,840
I know. 
By the way. 

983
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,080
Sadly, there's no way there's 
the the Colts are saying there's

984
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,400
no way to have predicted this 
side, the only team that this 

985
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:25,000
happens to, ever. 
Yeah, breaking news on multiple 

986
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:26,720
fronts right now. 
Yeah, worthy in the medical. 

987
00:50:26,720 --> 00:50:28,520
I want to get, I want to get 
your reactions. 

988
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,240
A lot of sloppy stuff going on. 
Can we not do this? 

989
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:36,280
We There's not not a game on 
like this is this would be OK if

990
00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:40,160
like there was a game that we're
live stream like if this is the 

991
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,800
ship cast worthy in the medical 
tent would be an acceptable 

992
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,280
comment. 
But like here here it is. 

993
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,360
He appeared shaken up. 
Trainers are checking on him in 

994
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:50,720
the tent. 
He makes a great. 

995
00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:52,160
This is another two. 
He makes a great catch on the 

996
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:54,480
first throw of camp, landed 
awkwardly and walked right to 

997
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,960
the injury of tent. 
No, no, no. 

998
00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,720
What about? 
What about? 

999
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,640
What about? 
I'm going to bring him. 

1000
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,640
That's what I was going to bring
up, actually, before Pat 

1001
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,160
interrupted me. 
He was kicked out of a drill and

1002
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:09,520
yelled at by Ben Johnson. 
He. 

1003
00:51:09,800 --> 00:51:11,640
Just kicked him out, said go 
home. 

1004
00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,320
That's I think it's over for 
Luther Burden. 

1005
00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:16,640
And then also the other one I 
was going to bring up is 

1006
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:19,200
apparently Marshawn Lloyd was 
evaluated yesterday. 

1007
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:22,080
I thought it was on a tackle but
it's actually a non contact 

1008
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,360
injury. 
Again, no way to have predicted 

1009
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:25,200
this. 
No way. 

1010
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,120
Just simply just simply no way 
to have predicted this, you 

1011
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,320
know? 
Tough luck for the Marshawn 

1012
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,560
Lloyd drafters. 
The Bill's first round pick, 

1013
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,760
cornerback Max Hairston, not 
returned to practice since 

1014
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:40,640
entering the tent as well. 
All of what? 

1015
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:43,880
Cornerback chasing. 
Just at putting on the list. 

1016
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:46,720
Same thing about the point to 
the point about what to what to 

1017
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:51,000
care about at this point. 
Is Ben Johnson OK? 

1018
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,360
Like he seems like a. 
He seems like he's having a bad 

1019
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,560
time so. 
Angry like he's like, I talked 

1020
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:59,880
about this with Hayden yesterday
on on his show and it's like he 

1021
00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,640
shows up to the building at 
4:30. 

1022
00:52:01,640 --> 00:52:05,160
He screams at everyone all day 
and it's just like, why? 

1023
00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,240
Like why can't we just be happy?
Like why? 

1024
00:52:07,240 --> 00:52:10,280
Why is he like, let the bear? 
Like he's on the bears and he's 

1025
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:13,520
turned into Carmi all of a 
sudden, like he is now in the 

1026
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:14,880
show of the bear. 
He's embracing. 

1027
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:17,360
He's embracing the city. 
Teething around the facility, 

1028
00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:19,480
locking himself in a fridge and 
screaming. 

1029
00:52:19,480 --> 00:52:22,280
I mean you, you understand, you 
understand what Ben Johnson is 

1030
00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:24,200
doing. 
He is doing performative 

1031
00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:26,800
manliness. 
He is like someone who just read

1032
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:30,320
the Spake Zarathustra for the 
first time and believes that the

1033
00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:36,720
correct way to behave as if to 
act as if your entire life is a 

1034
00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:40,320
Sisyphician sort of experience 
in which you are constantly 

1035
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,880
pushing the rock above hill and 
then imagining yourself happy as

1036
00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:47,560
the person pushing the rock up 
the hill. 

1037
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:51,560
Guys, Worthy is back. 
Don't do that. 

1038
00:52:52,240 --> 00:52:54,800
We're so bad. 
Interrupted me when I wasn't 

1039
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,000
even going to bring up worthy, I
was going to bring up the 

1040
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:00,200
burden. 
I know, but I was so tilted by 

1041
00:53:00,200 --> 00:53:02,960
Worthy, hurt Worthy in the tent.
And then he's back. 

1042
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,560
He's already back. 
Like I could have been spared 

1043
00:53:05,560 --> 00:53:08,440
that whole cycle while live on 
his show. 

1044
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,200
Dalton Kincaid back in practice.
Sorry, it's the Bills again. 

1045
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:14,760
But at least he's. 
Big Josh. 

1046
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,760
McDaniels downside for Ben 
Johnson like it's I'm worried 

1047
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:20,520
I'm officially. 
I'm never going to get over the 

1048
00:53:20,520 --> 00:53:22,960
carmy comp. 
I I'm I'm with I'm with you on 

1049
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:26,960
the carmy comp cuz cuz like. 
Let's get the graphic. 

1050
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,840
Carmi, for those who've watched 
the bear, let's keep this 

1051
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:35,200
relatively spoiler free. 
He's he can thrive in the right 

1052
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:38,360
environment like you. 
You're like, this dude is 

1053
00:53:38,440 --> 00:53:40,680
incredible. 
He's so talented, right? 

1054
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:42,480
But he kind of needs the 
environment around him. 

1055
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,320
Then he gets kind of in the 
wrong environment and some old 

1056
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,520
stuff bubbles back to the 
surface and all the sudden he's 

1057
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:52,720
in the walk in and and that is 
kind of feels like what's 

1058
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:54,760
happening to Ben Johnson. 
I don't think this is 

1059
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,040
performative. 
It feels like this is kind of 

1060
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,640
who he always was. 
And now when it's like him in 

1061
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,560
charge of creating the 
environment, we're starting to 

1062
00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:03,840
see it. 
I don't know, I'm getting 

1063
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:06,720
nervous. 
The Luther burden getting kicked

1064
00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:11,240
out of practice is is not good. 
I was listening to to a podcast 

1065
00:54:11,240 --> 00:54:14,920
yesterday, just like the open, 
the dudes who were at the 

1066
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:18,320
athletic, it's like Hajin Johns 
or just throwing up the names. 

1067
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:21,360
But you guys know who I mean, 
probably they they they've 

1068
00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:24,520
covered the bears forever. 
And they mentioned that burden 

1069
00:54:24,520 --> 00:54:28,400
yesterday was only out there 
during like the individual part 

1070
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,120
of practice. 
And then when they went to teen 

1071
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:31,120
drills, they were looking for 
him. 

1072
00:54:31,120 --> 00:54:34,160
They couldn't, they couldn't 
find him and they weren't sure 

1073
00:54:34,160 --> 00:54:35,880
if he went back in the facility 
or what. 

1074
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:41,440
So he like still wasn't really 
out there for a full practice 

1075
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:44,760
yesterday. 
And then today he got kicked 

1076
00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:48,920
out. 
Yeah, that's just it's they they

1077
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:50,640
threw out one of the one of the 
guys. 

1078
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:52,520
He the other dude was like, I 
think that's you're 

1079
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:54,240
overreacting. 
But one of the dudes was like, 

1080
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:56,640
this could be a red shirt year 
for Luther burden. 

1081
00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,360
Like it's it's start. 
It's it's been, it's been 

1082
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:02,560
floated by Beats. 
Ron Ron Stewart said he would 

1083
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,520
rather draft Luther Burden than 
find a wife. 

1084
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:08,880
Well, Ron, looks like you're 
going to be living in the 

1085
00:55:08,880 --> 00:55:12,960
basement a little while longer. 
The the drum beat is O Doomsay 

1086
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,680
in Chicago. 
Yes, it is, which is like fairly

1087
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,400
predictable, right? 
You've got you've got these 

1088
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,480
rookies who are like her 
attitude. 

1089
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:26,000
You've got DJ Moore, who Ben 
Johnson was like sub tweeting 

1090
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:29,040
being like, I don't know if this
guy is on our team. 

1091
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,760
Although Luther Burden taking a 
red shirt year would mean that 

1092
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:35,160
DJ Moore is like locked in to 
being. 

1093
00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:36,560
Yeah. 
That'd be best for more. 

1094
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:40,320
Probably he's just terrible in 
football, so it doesn't matter. 

1095
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:43,640
For him but Colston, Scotland 
saying you're saying DJ Moore 

1096
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,120
sucks at football. 
Yeah. 

1097
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:46,600
I've been saying that the entire
year. 

1098
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:48,200
Can we just? 
Can we just? 

1099
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:51,080
Just enough, enough, enough. 
You're lying. 

1100
00:55:51,080 --> 00:55:52,400
You're lying to the people, 
dude. 

1101
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,040
Nice. 
It was a very priors confirming 

1102
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,040
day on reception perception 
yesterday. 

1103
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,240
If you want to go check out the 
DJ Moore reception perception. 

1104
00:56:01,320 --> 00:56:04,200
I'm not going to engage with any
data that does not agree with me

1105
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:09,320
about DJ Moore. 
I can promise you that I will 

1106
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,280
come up, I will come up with so 
many excuses for DJ Moore 

1107
00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,680
Excuses. 
You can't even I'm coming up 

1108
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:18,800
with DJ Moore excuses that your 
brain couldn't even get to on 

1109
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,600
psychedelics, man. 
I, it's just, it's I've been 

1110
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:24,920
making excuses for, for DJ Moore
since he was 19 years old at the

1111
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:26,840
University of Maryland. 
And I'll keep doing it. 

1112
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:32,000
If the Marshawn Lloyd injury is 
bad, who's the Plan B? 

1113
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,960
Josh Jacob or Josh Jacobs? 
Savion Williams. 

1114
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:38,480
Savion Williams. 
Is there anyone else? 

1115
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:41,800
I don't, I don't, I don't 
actually believe that, by the 

1116
00:56:41,800 --> 00:56:45,480
way, that's, that's me being a 
performative blind seal. 

1117
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,240
I, I would, I would say Emmanuel
Wilson, probably. 

1118
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:51,320
OK, he was. 
He was the rumored caught. 

1119
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:52,840
I think Chris Brooks apparently 
is out of him. 

1120
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,360
Chris Brooks, right? 
He was there last year. 

1121
00:56:56,880 --> 00:57:00,240
Chris Brooks, I I don't know, 
because Wilson, they, you know, 

1122
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,560
this was the configuration of 
the backfield last year and 

1123
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,640
Wilson played better and more 
often than Brooks did. 

1124
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,520
Chris Brooks is kind of a that's
like, I mean, you want to talk 

1125
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:12,680
about blind seal slapping? 
That's like, oh, you know, I 

1126
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,000
kind of liked him when he was on
the Dolphins practice squad. 

1127
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:16,760
Like that. 
That. 

1128
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,280
Yeah, yeah. 
That is, that is like classic. 

1129
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:20,600
I've been there. 
I've been that guy. 

1130
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:22,400
Yeah, I'm sure that doesn't 
shock you. 

1131
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,040
Let's go to Fallers, Pat. 
How's it looking? 

1132
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:35,040
There we go. 
Nadia Harris in all his splendor

1133
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:39,040
on the practice field in LA. 
Justin Jefferson heads the list,

1134
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:41,200
moving down one spot from 3 to 
4. 

1135
00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,480
Joe Mixon. 
Chris Godwin. 

1136
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:44,720
Quinn. 
Sean Judkins. 

1137
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,560
Again, there's Harris again. 
Terry Mclaurin holding out. 

1138
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,320
Darren Waller being on the 
faller's list at this date is 

1139
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:53,440
hilarious because it's still 
July and who was even thinking 

1140
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:57,640
about him a month ago? 
Darnell Mooney, the last quote 

1141
00:57:57,640 --> 00:58:01,760
this morning from Raheem Morris 
on Mooney is a few weeks. 

1142
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,760
That's what that looks like 
according to the head coach. 

1143
00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:11,760
And then Jonnu Smith, Mclaurin, 
nothing's really new there, 

1144
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:14,200
right? 
We talked about him, Pat, as one

1145
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,600
that could go well into the 
summer and I think that's still 

1146
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:23,240
the case. 
Yeah, I mean, Mclaurin, if 

1147
00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:26,280
you're, if you're at the 3-4 
turn, you know, I think he's 

1148
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,920
fine to, to pair with, with Jane
Daniels. 

1149
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:31,080
He's falling into the 4th at a 
decent clip. 

1150
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:35,760
Now. 
You know, I I not my favorite 

1151
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:37,960
wide receiver in the range and 
I'm, you know, I'm trying to 

1152
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:42,240
take I was taking worthy before 
he got hurt, but it's like I'm 

1153
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:44,440
even mixing in. 
Oh, he's he's healthy and so I 

1154
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,720
can take Worthy. 
But Mike Evans, I'm willing. 

1155
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:52,000
I think Mike Evans now over 
Mclaurin. 

1156
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:54,240
Mike Evans is kind of 
interesting with the Godwin 

1157
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,240
stuff. 
I'm like, he's got some upside, 

1158
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:58,320
you know, being. 
Slept on I think. 

1159
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:04,200
Kind of being slept on a little 
bit, but yeah, I'm not like 

1160
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,600
super concerned about the 
Mclaurin stuff. 

1161
00:59:07,680 --> 00:59:11,400
Like, they just don't have 
anybody else, you know, And 

1162
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:16,080
they're, they're so. 
He's he's falling in veterans. 

1163
00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:18,480
Around this, around Jay and 
Daniels, like they're they're 

1164
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:22,440
kind of built win now, you know?
He's, he's falling into the 

1165
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,360
range where he should have this.
So he's falling in the range 

1166
00:59:25,360 --> 00:59:27,880
where he should have been 
drafted all along, which is a 

1167
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,840
pattern that I've started to 
identify amongst the underdog 

1168
00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,560
market, which is that you sort 
of do this. 

1169
00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:36,440
Well, if that's the price, 
that's the price thing on these 

1170
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,680
guys. 
And then some small news item or

1171
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,600
large news item bumps them into 
a more appropriate range for 

1172
00:59:41,600 --> 00:59:44,880
their projection and then that 
becomes the new price. 

1173
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,400
Even when the information 
resolves itself, like I don't 

1174
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:50,360
think we'll see a big upward 
adjustment if it's announced the

1175
00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:54,280
Maclaurin gets his contract. 
Mclaurin always should have been

1176
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,040
like a mid fourth round pick. 
But Gretch actually had a great 

1177
00:59:57,040 --> 01:00:00,600
sequence of tweets about this 
the other day about about Terry 

1178
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:02,920
Mclaurin. 
And I was, you know, way 

1179
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:04,880
underweight on Terry Mclaurin. 
Before this. 

1180
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:08,120
I, I was basically almost never 
taking him in the fourth round. 

1181
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,960
But now that I'm like, oh, DK 
Metcalf or Terry Mclaurin like, 

1182
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:15,560
well, I'll probably just take 
Mclaurin here and feel fine 

1183
01:00:15,560 --> 01:00:18,240
about that. 
The thing that I I kind of 

1184
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:22,680
because on one level, I, I 
totally get the Mclaurin should 

1185
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:25,240
have been a fourth round pick 
take because he doesn't really 

1186
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:28,640
have like the talent breakout 
profile that you're you're 

1187
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:33,040
typically looking for. 
But Jaden Daniels does, and he's

1188
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,800
so clearly the number one guy 
there. 

1189
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:37,560
I, I think I, I think I disagree
with that. 

1190
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:42,760
Who you think Debo's going to? 
Be I think I think that were you

1191
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:49,360
to guarantee me Debo Samuel is 
like 12% body fat and is fully 

1192
01:00:49,360 --> 01:00:53,160
recovered from pneumococcal 
pneumonia that there and and 

1193
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:56,400
particularly for the first time 
in Terry Mclaurin's career. 

1194
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,080
He was used as like a gadget boy
last year. 

1195
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:04,120
I mean, you, you trade for Debo 
Samuel, assuming that he is 

1196
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,880
going to become the gadget boy, 
right? 

1197
01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:09,840
That's isn't that why you 
acquire his services? 

1198
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,960
Well of course, but you just 
listed your rankings and you 

1199
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:15,560
have Debo way behind ADP. 
Yeah, because I don't really 

1200
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:18,000
believe that. 
I don't believe that Debo. 

1201
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:19,760
I don't believe that Debo would 
be. 

1202
01:01:20,320 --> 01:01:23,320
Okay, but then why aren't you a 
little more enthusiastic? 

1203
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,280
The thing that makes me most 
nervous about Lauren actually, 

1204
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,320
is that he scored 16 touchdowns 
last. 

1205
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,360
Year and was and was the wide 
receiver 11 with 16 touchdowns. 

1206
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:34,880
Yeah, that, that's. 
Actually pretty this is. 

1207
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,720
This is actually fake news. 
It was 13, wasn't. 

1208
01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,160
It it wasn't. 16 sorry, it was 
16 in the 16 I think. 

1209
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,160
Includes the playoffs 16. 
Including in the playoffs, it's 

1210
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:44,280
13. 
Including, sorry, 13 in the 

1211
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:49,160
regular season, 16 total, but he
had, including the playoffs, he 

1212
01:01:49,160 --> 01:01:53,440
had 1.97 yards per route run, 
which was not a career high, but

1213
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,720
close. 
He's hit 2-3 times. 

1214
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,800
He's never been like that. 
True, like ultra efficient 

1215
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:02,720
superstar #1 but he was very 
good last year from an 

1216
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:06,560
efficiency standpoint. 
And then I think his ADP is kind

1217
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,840
of buoyed by the 13 regular 
season touch. 

1218
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,040
Maybe, you know, people watch 
the playoffs, maybe maybe that 

1219
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:13,480
factored in too. 
But my point is like the 

1220
01:02:13,480 --> 01:02:16,120
perception of him is probably 
inflated by the touchdowns. 

1221
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:19,240
We don't really want to chase 
that, but the yardage efficiency

1222
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,320
was good and Debo was not good 
last year, you know, and, and 

1223
01:02:23,320 --> 01:02:24,960
is. 
Moving from like Debo was not 

1224
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:28,760
good in stretches right there. 
If you do arbitrary endpoints on

1225
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,640
Debo, he was fine. 
What? 

1226
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:34,480
What? 
Stretch OK, I I probably do that

1227
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:36,920
for a bunch of people, though. 
And he goes from he goes from 

1228
01:02:36,920 --> 01:02:41,360
Kyle Shanahan, who's like the 
the goat of of design touches to

1229
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,200
Cliff Kingsbury, who's kind of 
the two cute goat. 

1230
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,080
McLaren, by the way, had a 13.5 
A dot. 

1231
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:51,640
So it's it's not like he was 
feasting on shallow stuff like 

1232
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,760
he was no, he was mixed in, but 
I mean, he he's a downfield kind

1233
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,520
of deep threat slash #1. 
So I, I don't think they're like

1234
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:02,200
very, there's not a ton of 
overlap in their skill sets, I 

1235
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,000
don't think. 
McLaren is is at this. 

1236
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:04,640
Price. 
I. 

1237
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,440
Consolidating the Alama de 
Zakiya sauce, the neck alert. 

1238
01:03:08,440 --> 01:03:11,480
Very musical stuff. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1239
01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:14,480
So I just think like you get 
with Mclaurin, it's a way and I 

1240
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,960
I like drafting him with a lot 
of my Mclaurin is with Daniels 

1241
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:22,440
because they go next to each 
other and I usually just take 

1242
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,760
Mclaurin and then and then take 
Daniels like at the the four O 2

1243
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:27,320
or something because because I 
know I can get him. 

1244
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:31,360
So that's the bet to me. 
It's, it's like, hey, how do I, 

1245
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:34,520
how do I put like a multiplier 
on my Jayden Daniels pick? 

1246
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:42,680
OK, last year Terry Mclaurin had
a 26% first read target share 

1247
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:49,320
and he had 10 1/2% of his stuff 
as designed plays. 

1248
01:03:49,320 --> 01:03:51,880
So that is like, that's like the
classic. 

1249
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,000
I mean, you could say it's Cliff
stuff. 

1250
01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,240
You could say it's just the West
Coast offense. 

1251
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,320
You all, you all know what a 
design play is, right? 

1252
01:03:59,880 --> 01:04:03,400
So Debo super super similar 
right? 

1253
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:08,920
Debo 25.3% of his targets last 
year when he was objectively 

1254
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:12,560
like way worse than his sample 
size were those design plays and

1255
01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:15,560
his first retarget chair was 
21.8%. 

1256
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:21,840
My read of the situation is that
a lot of those slappy little, 

1257
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,920
you know, the the digs, the 
screens, the the crossers where 

1258
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,240
you have like set up like a, you
know, a second layer blocking 

1259
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,240
stuff. 
I think you trade for Debo 

1260
01:04:32,240 --> 01:04:35,640
anticipating him taking over 
some of that and Mclaurin 

1261
01:04:35,640 --> 01:04:39,520
shifting back into the higher a 
dot role that he'd been in in 

1262
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,360
years past. 
I could be wrong, right? 

1263
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,640
I'm wrong about stuff. 
All the 13.5 A dot is high and 

1264
01:04:44,680 --> 01:04:47,440
and really high. 
The guys who guys who have that 

1265
01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,160
type of A dot don't only get 
downfield shots. 

1266
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:54,280
Like I wouldn't I wouldn't 
anticipate really much of A 

1267
01:04:54,280 --> 01:04:57,360
change role for McLaren at all 
unless he like misses all of 

1268
01:04:57,360 --> 01:05:00,240
camp and they like install an 
entire entirely different 

1269
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:03,680
offense without him that if he 
if he's sitting out halfway 

1270
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:06,200
through August, like I will feel
a little differently, but 

1271
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:08,720
missing the beginning. 
I don't, I don't anticipate 

1272
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:09,920
that. 
I think they'll probably just 

1273
01:05:10,000 --> 01:05:13,080
give them, you know, whatever. 
I think they're going to come to

1274
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:15,200
an agreement. 
More than the DK contract 

1275
01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:18,320
apparently like that. 
Is and Sutton and Sutton? 

1276
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,080
Like last week I said like, 
I'll, you know, fine, give him 

1277
01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:22,840
30 million. 
It sounds like he wouldn't even 

1278
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,160
take 30 million right now if it 
was offered. 

1279
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,360
I don't know if I believe that. 
Like I I feel like maybe. 

1280
01:05:27,360 --> 01:05:29,960
If I think, I think that might 
be that, that sounds like 

1281
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,000
posturing, but. 
Yeah. 

1282
01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:36,320
He turns 30 in September and I 
think he, he I think is reading 

1283
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:39,400
the situation well and that like
he needs to get as much as 

1284
01:05:39,400 --> 01:05:41,560
contract as possible because 
this is the last big deal he'll 

1285
01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:43,760
get. 
He needs to get as much 

1286
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,240
guaranteed as he can. 
But I kind of think he has 

1287
01:05:47,240 --> 01:05:51,440
leverage where like they just 
don't have a #1 receiver and I, 

1288
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,400
and I include Debo in that. 
Debo's like a, you know, he's, 

1289
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:56,120
he's like half a running back, 
like. 

1290
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:58,640
Yeah, Dee Deebo is not a number 
one wide receiver, no. 

1291
01:05:58,680 --> 01:06:01,240
I'm not who's challenging 
downfield if you don't have 

1292
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:03,120
Terry Mclaurin and how have you 
built this team? 

1293
01:06:03,120 --> 01:06:05,520
It's not like they have this 
like beautiful foundation of 

1294
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,280
young players where it's like. 
Jalen Lane, brother. 

1295
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:10,960
Yeah. 
Like they they, they've got to 

1296
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:14,960
run with that times. 
I think it does last through 

1297
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,400
August or most of August, and 
I'll wanna the dip arena on 

1298
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,640
Mclaurin, I suppose, because I 
think by the time they get into 

1299
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:25,120
their games, he's on the field. 
You want the latest Luther 

1300
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:25,800
burden up there? 
You. 

1301
01:06:26,200 --> 01:06:28,360
Just not like. 
Like it was a curse word. 

1302
01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,240
Did I? 
Don't think he's going to miss 

1303
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:32,720
any games. 
But it's close. 

1304
01:06:33,560 --> 01:06:37,480
The guys who held out recently, 
it's just they don't start well.

1305
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,320
Like I mean, Chase obviously is 
an exception to this that. 

1306
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,400
Makes it so much worse. 
So if you don't even say. 

1307
01:06:44,040 --> 01:06:46,120
The word I'll say slurp. 
If you need me to say slurp, 

1308
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:47,280
I'll say. 
Slurp kind of did. 

1309
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:52,400
By the way, Luther Burden from 
Courtney Cronin, ESPN That was a

1310
01:06:52,400 --> 01:06:54,920
quick ramp up period. 
Rookie Luther Burden, the third,

1311
01:06:54,920 --> 01:06:57,360
has already worked his way into 
some first team reps during 

1312
01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,720
11:00 and 11:00. 
OK, so apparently the chat 

1313
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:03,400
corrected Davis. 
So believe it or not, Davis has 

1314
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:07,560
exaggerated information and he 
was kicked out of the drill, not

1315
01:07:07,560 --> 01:07:10,080
the practice. 
But he is now we're. 

1316
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,480
Back he's back. 
We're so back. 

1317
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:15,120
It was we're. 
It was so jover now we're so 

1318
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,040
back Luther burden full not a 
red shirt year. 

1319
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,800
Ron Stewart was right. 
Trade your wife for more Luther 

1320
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:25,800
burden you. 
Got your wife now, all right. 

1321
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:27,240
Listen, no one ever needs to 
know that. 

1322
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:30,040
I completely panicked on Luther 
Burden in the ranks before, 

1323
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:36,480
before confirming, didn't push, 
didn't go live, but there is in 

1324
01:07:36,560 --> 01:07:38,600
the back. 
No one ever needs to know that. 

1325
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,960
What do you want to do about 
Darnell Mooney? 

1326
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,360
This is like a classic thing. 
I don't think it really matters.

1327
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,520
Like, he sounds like he's gonna 
be fine. 

1328
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,480
He doesn't even have a sling on 
at practice. 

1329
01:07:51,600 --> 01:07:53,680
This is probably how Pat felt 
about Joe Mixon. 

1330
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,040
Because there's nothing that's 
more of a dagger to the heart 

1331
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,280
than when you're drafting a lot 
of a player you would normally 

1332
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,360
never draft. 
And then they get hurt and they 

1333
01:08:00,360 --> 01:08:03,120
fall and it's like, what the 
fuck was I doing with my life to

1334
01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:07,720
to be in this situation? 
I have 16% darn hell Mooney. 

1335
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,520
My God. 
Dude, what happened? 

1336
01:08:12,560 --> 01:08:16,399
I I I really like him this year.
He, I mean, if you if you buy, 

1337
01:08:16,399 --> 01:08:20,040
do you guys remember the the 
famous Bateman line from two 

1338
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:21,560
years ago? 
Bateman was one of your super 

1339
01:08:21,560 --> 01:08:24,920
48. 
I could see, I could see you 

1340
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:28,080
believing that this year. 
It's it's well, I could see you 

1341
01:08:28,080 --> 01:08:31,640
believing it is the the Mooney 
line, right? 

1342
01:08:31,640 --> 01:08:36,000
Where it's just like that is the
last last train leaving the 

1343
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:38,240
station, right? 
I mean, it could be it could be 

1344
01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:38,960
the Pitman line. 
I. 

1345
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,200
Don't know. 
Here's here's what I'll say. 

1346
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:44,279
Here's what I'll say. 
I'm not shocked that Jacob likes

1347
01:08:44,279 --> 01:08:46,160
Darnell Mooney and Jordan 
Addison. 

1348
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:52,720
That's that's all I'll say. 
That's rude. 

1349
01:08:54,920 --> 01:08:58,359
Look, Darnell Mooney is like not
a player that I, I, you know, 

1350
01:08:58,359 --> 01:09:01,640
he's, I guess my Rashid Shahid. 
You know, Davis has Rashid 

1351
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:04,600
Shahid, but Mooney runs every 
route. 

1352
01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:07,479
They are so consolidated, they 
never slab anyone off the field.

1353
01:09:07,479 --> 01:09:11,160
He will run like 99% of the 
routes and it's going to be an 

1354
01:09:11,160 --> 01:09:12,640
offense and I think it's going 
to pass a ton. 

1355
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:17,399
Pennex converts drop backs into 
throws at I expect to be like a 

1356
01:09:17,399 --> 01:09:20,120
top five rate because he's 
terrified of contact, never take

1357
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:23,240
sacks, never scrambles. 
Like I want piece of this 

1358
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,840
offense. 
I don't believe in Pitts, I 

1359
01:09:24,840 --> 01:09:26,880
don't believe in Ray Ray McLeod 
or Cadaryl Hodge. 

1360
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,760
Like Mooney is going to be the 
very clear #2 and what I think 

1361
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:33,200
will be a top 10 passing offense
goes really late downfield. 

1362
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,359
Profile was good last year. 
I don't know. 

1363
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:38,399
I think he's just like a guy 
that people are like, yeah, 

1364
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,439
gross. 
But I think he's actually a good

1365
01:09:40,479 --> 01:09:42,439
fit. 
I wouldn't be surprised if Penex

1366
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,359
ran a bit. 
He's capable. 

1367
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,640
I would be capable, but he never
has. 

1368
01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:51,439
Yeah, I'd be pretty cuz his. 
What's the guy's name? 

1369
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:53,880
Not to bore the other guy. 
What's his name? 

1370
01:09:53,880 --> 01:09:54,720
Jacob. 
The guy who? 

1371
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,600
The guy who took him to 
Washington with him? 

1372
01:09:57,080 --> 01:10:00,880
Well, de Boer. 
OK, de Boer basically said like,

1373
01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:05,000
yeah, we know you can run, but 
after your third ACL tear, maybe

1374
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:08,080
maybe let's not. 
Maybe let's maybe let's chill on

1375
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,600
the run. 
It basically like his coat, like

1376
01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:14,920
his coach who had him everywhere
in college, said. 

1377
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:18,440
We know you can, but we don't 
want you to because your body is

1378
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,640
potentially made of paper mache.
That's fair. 

1379
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:28,160
The next slide is the positive 
drum beat crowd and we got to 

1380
01:10:28,160 --> 01:10:32,360
talk about Tank Bigsby here. 
I think you guys, so I mentioned

1381
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,560
this earlier. 
Whether that guy? 

1382
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:38,880
Cut off or not, Jacob and Davis 
each tweeted a series of, you 

1383
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:42,040
know, shifts in stances and a 
couple of. 

1384
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,240
By the way, and and who took the
other person's format? 

1385
01:10:44,440 --> 01:10:48,120
Jacob tweeted it first, but you 
both had Bigsby on there. 

1386
01:10:48,440 --> 01:10:51,960
Well, who did? 
Who did a full 10 minute YouTube

1387
01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,400
video breakdown of Tank Bigsby 
as one of the three best running

1388
01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:57,400
back picks on the board. 
First, who who works as a lawyer

1389
01:10:57,520 --> 01:10:59,120
and doesn't have time to make 
little videos? 

1390
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,840
Davis when you basically 
unemployed about. 

1391
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:04,240
That when you did that YouTube 
video. 

1392
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,920
I'm sure you credited Jacob 
though, right? 

1393
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:08,680
Of course. 
Yeah, of course, of course I 

1394
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:10,520
did. 
I mean, I was telling you guys 

1395
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,480
to draft Tank Bigsby 2 months 
ago and I was getting laughed 

1396
01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:15,720
out of the room. 
You were early. 

1397
01:11:15,760 --> 01:11:18,880
I will say I adjusted not 
because of me, I adjusted 

1398
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:23,400
because the market brought the 
Bigsby to me and I'm currently 

1399
01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:25,040
at 20%. 
So I feel good about that. 

1400
01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:26,720
Yeah, there you go. 
Nice. 

1401
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:29,000
And. 
That's the CL who just got his 

1402
01:11:29,040 --> 01:11:32,080
eyesight back. 
I'm just, I think I'm just so 

1403
01:11:32,080 --> 01:11:34,360
against Travis Etienne that I 
was like, if you're going to 

1404
01:11:34,360 --> 01:11:37,400
give me Bigsby at 160, sure. 
Because I'd, I'd rather do 

1405
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:38,920
anything than draft Travis 
Etienne. 

1406
01:11:40,040 --> 01:11:43,880
So I got kind of lucky that the 
market gave Bigsby to me. 

1407
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,880
I now think he should be 
absolutely rocketing up the 

1408
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,320
board. 
Yeah, I agree. 

1409
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:52,080
And yeah, I'm, I'm adjusting as 
we speak. 

1410
01:11:52,480 --> 01:11:53,920
I think I'm going to put him in 
here. 

1411
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:55,720
Let's see. 
I'm going to, I'm going to put 

1412
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,720
him in here at yeah, 129. 
How does that? 

1413
01:11:58,720 --> 01:12:00,720
Wow, how? 
How high did I get him? 

1414
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:06,320
I got Bigsby to. 
I don't think I got him that 

1415
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:10,400
high. 
NO113136. 

1416
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:12,720
You got me, Jacob. 
There we go. 

1417
01:12:15,240 --> 01:12:18,040
Because I, I'm still like The 
thing is, is I still. 

1418
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:21,200
We're at 1:32. 
Dang, OK, I got to move him up. 

1419
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:22,520
Got to move him up. 
If that. 

1420
01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:24,360
I can't. 
I can't have Karain be higher on

1421
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:26,560
him than me. 
From unranked. 

1422
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:28,520
I know we've been, we've been 
way too low on him this year. 

1423
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:33,920
He's yeah, I was, I was very 
skeptical that he would just 

1424
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:35,840
kind of be the number one like 
this. 

1425
01:12:36,480 --> 01:12:38,120
And he doesn't look like the 
clear cut number one or 

1426
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,920
anything, but he he appears to 
be ahead in the three-way split.

1427
01:12:42,880 --> 01:12:45,240
He is a pretty good runner, you 
know. 

1428
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:49,240
Yeah. 
So on that level, it makes 

1429
01:12:49,240 --> 01:12:50,840
sense. 
It's like, hey, we know we have,

1430
01:12:51,160 --> 01:12:53,680
you know, in Tank Bixby, we can 
kind of keep the chains moving 

1431
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:56,880
on the ground and he's installed
as the number one guy. 

1432
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:59,480
That way. 
It actually does make sense. 

1433
01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:04,320
So yeah, I think he can move up.
He's already back. 

1434
01:13:04,440 --> 01:13:06,360
He's already he. 
He's back, too. 

1435
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:07,760
He's back today. 
He's already back. 

1436
01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,200
He's back. 
He needs. 

1437
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:10,400
Practice yesterday. 
He's back. 

1438
01:13:10,400 --> 01:13:11,360
Thank you all. 
Right. 

1439
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:16,120
Yeah, Tooten is still my 
favorite in in the backfield by 

1440
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:19,120
a lot. 
ETN is it? 

1441
01:13:19,160 --> 01:13:22,480
It needs to fall, like a lot. 
Undrafted, yeah, and has always 

1442
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:24,240
been. 
Yeah, I'd still take him over 

1443
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:26,840
Joe Mixon, but he's wait. 
Actually. 

1444
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:30,400
No, no, I don't think. 
So like I think you should, I 

1445
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,720
think ETN should have the third 
highest ADP in this backfield. 

1446
01:13:34,440 --> 01:13:37,480
Yeah, it's a, it's a, it's a 
classic being drafted in inverse

1447
01:13:37,480 --> 01:13:40,920
order situation. 
I'll tell you what though, if 

1448
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,760
you want it this, if you want to
go back to my Dante Bienwick 

1449
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:47,960
style thinking of putting hats 
on top of hats, you could 

1450
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:52,800
interpret all of the bullishness
for Tank as actually bullish for

1451
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:58,560
Tootin because it shows that 
there is not a over deference to

1452
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:01,400
Etns veteran status and it's 
not, you know, Lawrence getting 

1453
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:04,040
his boy out there. 
Like if the coaching staff is 

1454
01:14:04,040 --> 01:14:08,640
open to not having ETN installed
as the quote UN quote starter 

1455
01:14:09,120 --> 01:14:13,240
then that means that it's open 
up enough for a fifth round 

1456
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:17,280
rookie if they play very well to
to get work. 

1457
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,720
For what it's worth, I talked to
Mike Dempsey out of Jacksonville

1458
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:23,840
on Friday. 
He's at every practice and his 

1459
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:27,560
breakdown was he he, you know, 
takes a drink every time 

1460
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:30,320
somebody drafts ETN because he's
thrilled that somebody else did 

1461
01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,880
that and then it's wide open 
after that. 

1462
01:14:33,120 --> 01:14:36,160
So, you know, that made me feel 
better, a little better about my

1463
01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,520
41% facial Tooting at this stage
of the game. 

1464
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:40,880
Oh. 
My God, you got. 

1465
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,920
Kind of sense about your friend.
So normally like you take a 

1466
01:14:43,920 --> 01:14:47,320
drink when something that like 
you're happy, you do a drinking 

1467
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,240
show where you know, like if we 
said blind seal, you take a 

1468
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:53,000
drink or something like that, 
right, Or maybe you'd do it to 

1469
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:54,560
like punish yourself. 
I like the idea of like 

1470
01:14:54,560 --> 01:14:58,560
something good happening. 
Like light, a cigar, whatever. 

1471
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:00,520
Any kind of metaphor like that 
you want, you know, you're 

1472
01:15:01,400 --> 01:15:07,960
you're just pleased. 
Is Monongai anything for you 

1473
01:15:07,960 --> 01:15:12,360
guys? 
Yeah, I mean, they they seem to 

1474
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:17,160
just not be feeling great about 
the Roshan. 

1475
01:15:17,160 --> 01:15:21,680
Like Roshan is not endearing 
himself to this coaching staff. 

1476
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,000
Not that I think Roshan is going
to get caught, but you know. 

1477
01:15:25,480 --> 01:15:28,560
Positive speak on him yesterday.
Yeah, Swift is. 

1478
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,520
I mean, we just know beyond the 
shadow of a doubt Swift is a 

1479
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,560
poor interior runner. 
They would like to have someone 

1480
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:38,960
do that who actually is good at 
it and won't bounce every run 

1481
01:15:39,240 --> 01:15:43,000
outside. 
And so, yeah, why not? 

1482
01:15:43,000 --> 01:15:45,680
Why not a little bit of round 18
Manon guy? 

1483
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:50,760
I I'm writing, I I'm about to 
publish my ranks, just the the 

1484
01:15:50,760 --> 01:15:53,280
rankings update and I, I do like
a little newsletter blurb when I

1485
01:15:53,280 --> 01:15:57,480
do it. 
And my point today is like this 

1486
01:15:57,480 --> 01:16:00,200
is the time of season to start 
getting more aggressive with 

1487
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,720
your round 18 picks, 'cause I 
always think about that thing 

1488
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:06,000
that Bimefort says, which is we 
draft teams, not exposures. 

1489
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:08,920
So even if you only end up with 
like 8% of the young guy or 

1490
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:13,000
whatever, the more the earlier 
in the season you start taking 

1491
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:16,920
these round 18 guys, that is 
just a greater total number of 

1492
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,720
teams you have the ability to 
have them on. 

1493
01:16:18,720 --> 01:16:22,800
Like imagine if we had started 
taking Chiron on July 29th 

1494
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,040
instead of August 10th or or 
puka on August 4th instead of 

1495
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:28,600
after the first pre season game 
or whatever. 

1496
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,160
And I, I think that kind of the 
old adage of like you, you draft

1497
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,000
for safety in those later rounds
early in the best ball season. 

1498
01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:36,880
I think we're at the inflection 
point now. 

1499
01:16:36,880 --> 01:16:40,400
I agree where you do need to 
start taking the initiative. 

1500
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,000
You know, you need. 
I like Keandre Lambert, Smith 

1501
01:16:43,000 --> 01:16:47,000
that I mean, that might be more 
personal to just me, but I I 

1502
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:49,280
think we are, we are at that 
point of the season where you 

1503
01:16:49,280 --> 01:16:53,720
stop taking Theo Johnson around 
18 every time just because you 

1504
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:57,920
know, he's on the roster. 
Yeah, I, I, I'm looking for 

1505
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:03,200
those guys for sure. 
I I do think with Manung guy, he

1506
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:07,240
he was the worst running back 
prospects that was drafted this 

1507
01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:10,320
year in my model. 
He he was like really bad. 

1508
01:17:10,320 --> 01:17:14,880
He's unathletic. 
He was, he was his success rate 

1509
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,920
actually wasn't that great, but 
he was kind of seen as like the,

1510
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,520
the hammer, the consistent guy. 
He wasn't on a good team. 

1511
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:24,280
So maybe that's, that's like not
his fault, but no juice. 

1512
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:27,320
I mean, he had a 30% breakaway 
percentage, which is which is 

1513
01:17:27,320 --> 01:17:31,920
real rough, 0.52 yards per route
run. 

1514
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:35,080
He was a workhorse, but didn't 
have any breakaway yards per 

1515
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:37,320
game. 
He broke some tackles, but he 

1516
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:41,240
he's not like this incredible 
tackle breaker didn't run many 

1517
01:17:41,240 --> 01:17:43,800
routes, didn't wasn't really 
involved in the passing game, 

1518
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,120
wasn't really even like a 
backfield dominator guy. 

1519
01:17:46,120 --> 01:17:50,000
He peeked at just 60% forty 4% 
for his career. 

1520
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:55,560
So it's like very little to hang
your hat on with Monongai that 

1521
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,560
the one thing is that like he's 
probably better than DeAndre 

1522
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:02,880
Swift is an inside runner. 
So so maybe you could do that. 

1523
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:09,240
But the thing I have with 
Monongai, we lowered Roshan like

1524
01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:13,360
probably a month or six weeks 
ago on Monongai looking like he 

1525
01:18:13,360 --> 01:18:15,320
was going to push Roshan a 
little bit. 

1526
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:20,720
Because you know, at one point I
was pretty bullish on Roshan 

1527
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:23,920
because it seemed like he was 
the clear #2 and that's another 

1528
01:18:23,920 --> 01:18:26,760
kind of archetype to hammer in 
in May, the guys with clear cut 

1529
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:28,680
jobs. 
But then it's like, oh, maybe 

1530
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,760
he's not the clear number 2. 
So we we backed off on that. 

1531
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:37,480
I I think my next move for 
Monongai would be to draft Les 

1532
01:18:37,480 --> 01:18:40,240
Swift or basically you have to 
kind of take swift and say maybe

1533
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:43,280
he's not really in the mix of 
the six seven turn. 

1534
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,720
Maybe, you know, he's got to 
fall more to the to mid to late 

1535
01:18:45,720 --> 01:18:47,800
7th at this point before I'm 
interested again. 

1536
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:52,200
I think that the last thing I do
is then be drafting Monongai 

1537
01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:56,560
himself just because he's like 
such a limited prospect. 

1538
01:18:56,560 --> 01:19:00,000
Like he he really profiles as 
kind of like you're hoping he 

1539
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:02,600
falls into the end zone. 
Like he's 211 lbs. 

1540
01:19:02,760 --> 01:19:05,880
He's he's a he is the definition
of a ham and egger. 

1541
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:08,520
I don't. 
I think he's the definition of a

1542
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:10,240
plotter. 
Same. 

1543
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,600
The same thing. 
Ham and Egger I feel like is a 

1544
01:19:13,600 --> 01:19:17,240
little more. 
It's The thing is worse which is

1545
01:19:17,400 --> 01:19:19,360
worse. 
I mean, I, I've got that from, 

1546
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:22,440
I've got that from South S, you 
know. 

1547
01:19:22,640 --> 01:19:24,480
Yeah, South, you know, always 
calls him that. 

1548
01:19:24,480 --> 01:19:30,240
And I I like that. 
Also also probably also probably

1549
01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:33,800
bearish for all of these guys. 
DJ Moore was taking reps at 

1550
01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,000
running back yesterday. 
No, but DJ Moore sucks. 

1551
01:19:37,400 --> 01:19:38,720
DJ Moore has never been. 
Fast. 

1552
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,680
I think DJ Moore if he converted
to running back I would consider

1553
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:44,600
him in the 11th. 
I hate. 

1554
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:46,400
Come on, Jacob. 
I really do. 

1555
01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:48,400
I like just. 
He makes me. 

1556
01:19:48,720 --> 01:19:51,840
Jacob has such the ability to 
make me angry because he's so 

1557
01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:53,560
much smarter than me that when 
he's. 

1558
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:55,720
Wrong. 
I I just like, I'm not even like

1559
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:56,880
trying to be smart with DJ 
Moore. 

1560
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,400
I'm just being troll. 
I'm just being you, but against 

1561
01:19:59,400 --> 01:20:01,920
you. 
Some sometimes when I argue with

1562
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:05,520
Jacob, I feel like a toddler who
understands that something is 

1563
01:20:05,520 --> 01:20:08,000
wrong but doesn't have the 
verbiage to get to the 

1564
01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,280
explanation what is wrong about 
what he's saying and it just 

1565
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:13,040
makes like I just get 
frustrated. 

1566
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:16,280
By DJ Moore. 
You're the younger sibling who's

1567
01:20:16,280 --> 01:20:18,600
right, but you can't articulate 
it. 

1568
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:22,040
I appreciate, I appreciate 
everything you're saying. 

1569
01:20:22,120 --> 01:20:24,520
And maybe in some cases I make 
smart points. 

1570
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,840
I can promise you my DJ Moore 
thing is just having watched QB 

1571
01:20:28,840 --> 01:20:33,000
school last year of DJ Moore and
just being absolutely disgusted 

1572
01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,640
with the effort that he put on 
the field and refusing to draft 

1573
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:37,240
him on on that. 
Hey man, sometimes. 

1574
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:41,280
Sometimes you just don't. 
Sometimes you don't put it all 

1575
01:20:41,920 --> 01:20:44,200
on the line when you don't care 
about the results. 

1576
01:20:44,720 --> 01:20:47,840
I'm I'm basically like me to you
with my DJ more takes as the 

1577
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:53,960
equivalent of like a jubilee 
video of like 11 cop versus 20 

1578
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:55,560
criminals. 
Like I'm just trying to rage 

1579
01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,600
bait you. 
Of all people to say they can't 

1580
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:02,080
spit it out, Davis Maddock. 
I mean, I'm not buying that for 

1581
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,160
a minute. 
Sometimes, sometimes, sometimes.

1582
01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:06,920
Can we just be honest that the 
that the Bears are probably not 

1583
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,640
gonna be good like we got, we 
got Coach Carmi who said 

1584
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:14,560
actually today we're not going 
to have a set play sheet. 

1585
01:21:14,560 --> 01:21:16,560
We're going to redesign the play
sheet every week. 

1586
01:21:17,840 --> 01:21:22,880
That's not true. 
That was a bare reference, but I

1587
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,200
thought that was going to get 
that. 

1588
01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,320
No, I thought maybe that was 
real. 

1589
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:28,200
No, I didn't know you were 
joking. 

1590
01:21:28,960 --> 01:21:32,400
I was like, the silence was me 
panicking. 

1591
01:21:32,760 --> 01:21:34,480
I was like, that's a horrible 
idea. 

1592
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,360
Yeah, they're going to have to. 
They're going to spend extra on 

1593
01:21:40,360 --> 01:21:42,120
produce because they're not 
ordering it in advance. 

1594
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:47,600
I will say I've kind of like a 
little bit of a bear's truther, 

1595
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:49,440
I guess, where I kind of like. 
Me. 

1596
01:21:49,440 --> 01:21:53,800
Me too, yeah. 
The the situation, the situation

1597
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:59,320
was so, so bad last year, like. 
But we but we thought it was the

1598
01:21:59,320 --> 01:22:01,520
greatest of all time. 
Right. 

1599
01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,840
Our perception versus reality 
like is, is never really been 

1600
01:22:04,840 --> 01:22:06,320
wider. 
Like at least we knew the 

1601
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:09,240
patriots were going to suck. 
So we were able to like absorb 

1602
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,840
the sucking, you know, 
appropriately. 

1603
01:22:12,320 --> 01:22:14,680
You look at like EPA per game, 
EPA per play. 

1604
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:17,880
Like May and and Caleb weren't 
that far apart. 

1605
01:22:18,000 --> 01:22:20,960
May was better, but it wasn't 
like he he like lapped him or 

1606
01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:23,120
anything. 
The the surrounding cast, I 

1607
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,360
think matters. 
And it's like we're doing, you 

1608
01:22:26,360 --> 01:22:29,480
know, we're doing some work 
with, with Caleb's ADP, these 

1609
01:22:29,480 --> 01:22:32,200
Bears ADP like it's, it's not 
lost on people that they have 

1610
01:22:32,720 --> 01:22:35,480
Ben Johnson now. 
But you know, as far as like 

1611
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,640
believing that the Bears will 
suck, it's definitely possible, 

1612
01:22:38,640 --> 01:22:42,680
but I I tend to be optimistic 
just because of the gigantic 

1613
01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:47,040
shift in coaching offensive 
line. 

1614
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:50,120
I mean, they also they also 
added Luther burden and and 

1615
01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,560
Carlson Loveland like that's a 
big deal if Luther burden 

1616
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,280
commands did not get kicked out 
of drills and and be. 

1617
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,920
Out on the field on those two. 
Here's what I like. 

1618
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:58,600
Those are my. 
Favorite. 

1619
01:22:58,600 --> 01:22:59,720
Those are my favorite two ways 
to play. 

1620
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,480
I'm just not optimistic on the 
guys who were part of the suck. 

1621
01:23:02,640 --> 01:23:06,680
Like I, I just, I struggle to 
look at last year and be like, 

1622
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:10,840
it was 100% Shane Waldron. 
Like I'm, I'm apportioning blame

1623
01:23:10,840 --> 01:23:15,760
to Caleb Swift more than a 
doomsday and and a less to a 

1624
01:23:15,760 --> 01:23:17,080
doomsday because he was a 
rookie. 

1625
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:20,120
But like to me, like I think 
it's hard to look at the Bears 

1626
01:23:20,120 --> 01:23:22,400
last year, say this was 
horrible, it's going to be 

1627
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,120
world's better and then say 
like, and they're going to be 

1628
01:23:25,120 --> 01:23:27,960
relying on Caleb Swift and DJ 
Moore. 

1629
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,360
It's like those guys were 
horrible last year. 

1630
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:34,000
The thing that I like the most 
is if you if you agree 

1631
01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:38,760
correlation with coaching, first
drive of the game, first drive 

1632
01:23:38,760 --> 01:23:41,520
of the second-half, that maybe 
coaching has more to do with 

1633
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:44,960
those results. 
You guys know how many yards on 

1634
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:47,840
their opening drives of games 
last year, the Bears averaged 

1635
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:50,120
like, what would be bad? 
Probably negative. 

1636
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:56,720
Probably -6. 10 They averaged 10
yards on their opening drive 

1637
01:23:56,840 --> 01:24:01,160
last year for the entire season.
I mean, that's a team that came 

1638
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,120
out of the locker room with no 
idea what to do. 

1639
01:24:04,360 --> 01:24:07,560
So I've never heard a better 
stat in my history of doing this

1640
01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:12,800
like that was incredible. 10 
yards. 10 yards per opening 

1641
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:14,760
drive for the season. 
That's insane. 

1642
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:18,400
There was a sack on everyone 
probably, or a holding penalty. 

1643
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:21,520
They just did not have any idea 
what they wanted to do. 

1644
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:25,160
And, you know, if their coaching
is competent, that'll go way up 

1645
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,800
and they're going to start 
drives from the 35 this year. 

1646
01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,360
So that's not going to 
necessarily help us with fantasy

1647
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,720
points. 
But I feel like that's really, 

1648
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,600
you know, something you can 
latch onto. 

1649
01:24:35,440 --> 01:24:39,480
I I've been below market on 
Moore and I'm pretty below 

1650
01:24:39,480 --> 01:24:42,920
market on a doomsday. 
I think a doomsday, it is like a

1651
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:46,600
doomsday was bad last year and 
we doesn't have a history of 

1652
01:24:46,600 --> 01:24:50,200
ever being good, unlike DJ Moore
who's, you know, on 28 years old

1653
01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:52,320
target. 
Roma Doomsay had a higher yards 

1654
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:55,240
per hour run than DJ Moore. 
On non screen targets. 

1655
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,040
Yeah. 
Yeah, that wouldn't shock me 

1656
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:04,280
because DJ Moore had a bad yards
per route run, so they both were

1657
01:25:04,280 --> 01:25:09,640
bad. 
Throw it. 

1658
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,120
Throw. 
It out, throw it out. 20/20/24 

1659
01:25:13,120 --> 01:25:14,200
throw it out. 
Didn't happen. 

1660
01:25:15,160 --> 01:25:18,400
Yeah, the throw it out stuff. 
I mean, I I refuse to throw it 

1661
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:21,840
out. 
I'll never throw it out. 

1662
01:25:21,880 --> 01:25:24,200
I'll. 
Never throw it out. 

1663
01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:27,000
I I've heard, I've been told, 
I've now seen clips where I'm 

1664
01:25:27,000 --> 01:25:29,200
supposed to throw out a season 
of football. 

1665
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,240
We only get a a few seasons, 
guys. 

1666
01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:32,760
I'm not going to throw one out. 
I'm sorry. 

1667
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:34,360
Well, you know I. 
Get are you? 

1668
01:25:34,520 --> 01:25:35,480
Are you better? 
Off I get there. 

1669
01:25:35,480 --> 01:25:37,400
Mitigating circumstances here 
for sure. 

1670
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:43,720
Are you better off examining bad
and non significant sample sizes

1671
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:48,400
or throwing them out entirely? 
I think we're probably way 

1672
01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:53,000
overconfident to label a guy 
playing with the same 

1673
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,680
quarterback he's going to be 
playing this year with this year

1674
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,960
as a bad sample size. 
That doesn't tell us anything. 

1675
01:26:00,520 --> 01:26:02,920
But it doesn't tell me what I 
want to get from it. 

1676
01:26:02,920 --> 01:26:05,320
It doesn't, it doesn't certainly
doesn't tell you what you want. 

1677
01:26:05,480 --> 01:26:09,600
Yeah, 'cause it was bad. 
It it listen, it doesn't mean 

1678
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:14,120
that it's like gospel truth, 
like there's no like he he was, 

1679
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:16,200
he was inefficient in year 1. 
He's bad. 

1680
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:17,800
It's actually a little more 
nuanced. 

1681
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,880
It still matters to me that it 
still matters to me that like, 

1682
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,840
the offense was designed around 
Keenan Allen. 

1683
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:25,760
That seems bad. 
You know, maybe it maybe it's an

1684
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:30,640
indictment of the coaching, but 
it's still not good. 

1685
01:26:30,880 --> 01:26:34,920
You know, it kind of mattered. 
Like, do I care that Romo Dunze 

1686
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:36,920
was like functionally Michael 
Wilson as a rookie? 

1687
01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:41,000
Like, yeah, I, I care. 
Does it mean he's Michael Wilson

1688
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,920
forever? 
Like, no, but it's just, it's 

1689
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,960
not good. 
You know, I would like to still 

1690
01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:50,360
have it in my brain and use it 
to like inform my future bets. 

1691
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:53,760
I I recognize like, I know Matt 
Harmon was very bullish on him 

1692
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:57,080
from route running perspective 
coming in and was generally 

1693
01:26:57,080 --> 01:27:00,920
positive even last year. 
That's another data point that I

1694
01:27:00,920 --> 01:27:04,280
think that matters, but I don't 
it's not the only one. 

1695
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,920
Like, he still played a full 
season of football and didn't 

1696
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,320
really produce much. 
He got out there right away. 

1697
01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,120
He played right away. 
That's all good. 

1698
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,960
There's good and bad, right? 
But like a doomsday is being 

1699
01:27:15,960 --> 01:27:18,440
drafted with a lot of the good 
in mind. 

1700
01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:21,840
I think it's it's hard for me 
to, it's still hard for me to to

1701
01:27:21,840 --> 01:27:26,920
take him where he goes. 
I agree because like as much as 

1702
01:27:26,920 --> 01:27:34,720
I'm the world's foremost DJ 
Moore, bear with 0% and not not 

1703
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,160
only do I have 0% exposure to DJ
Moore, but I've actually never 

1704
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:38,920
seen him. 
He's never entered even the 

1705
01:27:38,920 --> 01:27:44,000
bottom of my queue. 
Roma Dunze I still have 

1706
01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,840
currently 2%. 
Yeah, no, I I have a it's. 

1707
01:27:47,880 --> 01:27:51,440
Just like it's been, it's been a
challenge like and I'm going to 

1708
01:27:51,440 --> 01:27:53,520
try to get more. 
I would like to I would like to 

1709
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:59,560
get up to like 8% Roma Dunze. 
But if you want negative Roma 

1710
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,920
doons a stats, and now I'm 
trying to pull this up here 

1711
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:03,680
quickly, so I'm stalling a 
little bit. 

1712
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:07,120
Here we go. 
Yeah. 

1713
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,240
This is from a column that Ryan 
Heath wrote that I put in my 

1714
01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:15,920
latest post. 
Prior to 2014, 7% of top 12 wide

1715
01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:18,840
receivers, eventual top 12 wide 
receivers had their breakout in 

1716
01:28:18,840 --> 01:28:24,880
their rookie year and 72% broke 
out in year two or three. 

1717
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:28,800
But since 2014, twenty, 6% of 
those wide receivers have had a 

1718
01:28:28,800 --> 01:28:32,160
rookie year breakout, just 42% 
in year 2 and year three 

1719
01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,120
combined. 
So what we're seeing more 

1720
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:39,280
recently in the NFL is that 
rookie is the wide receivers are

1721
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:42,800
breaking out either immediately 
or more often they're not 

1722
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,240
breaking out. 
And so this sort of idea of this

1723
01:28:45,240 --> 01:28:48,200
natural progression is just not 
as common. 

1724
01:28:48,200 --> 01:28:51,960
Obviously it still happens, we 
just saw JSN have, you know, a 

1725
01:28:51,960 --> 01:28:55,800
second year breakout. 
But I think that if I had to bat

1726
01:28:55,960 --> 01:29:00,080
on is a doomsday more likely to 
be JSN or Rashad Bateman, I 

1727
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,400
would pick Rashad Bateman. 
I would pick Rashad Bateman too,

1728
01:29:03,400 --> 01:29:06,640
and Bateman can play like he, 
he's a good, you know, kind of 

1729
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,400
Jordan Addison level player. 
So you know it's not a bat. 

1730
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,320
Ridiculous. 
This is absolutely ridiculous. 

1731
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,720
Bunch of the flying. 
Than Addison last year, I think.

1732
01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:18,040
I think he's actually more 
efficient. 

1733
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:21,680
Yeah, yeah, of course it's more 
efficient. 

1734
01:29:21,680 --> 01:29:25,440
I'd like 40 catches, yeah. 
He scored a lot of touchdowns. 

1735
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:31,880
That matters, apparently. 
Let's flip to the to the next. 

1736
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,000
Slide he was more efficient. 
He scored 11 touchdowns. 

1737
01:29:35,000 --> 01:29:39,800
See how it scored him too. 
Hang on. 

1738
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,320
I had I did have a point there 
somewhere. 

1739
01:29:42,280 --> 01:29:48,560
I think the I was actually over 
the weekend in a pro Roma Dunze 

1740
01:29:48,640 --> 01:29:50,680
position. 
We should take Roma Dunze on 

1741
01:29:50,680 --> 01:29:53,920
this team position because I was
in a main event draft. 

1742
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:57,080
We're doing the stat chasing 
main event draft with with Draco

1743
01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:02,520
and Zach and we had it was like 
Rome versus Jaden Reed. 

1744
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:07,280
You know, it kind of he'd he'd 
fallen a fair bit and I think 

1745
01:30:07,280 --> 01:30:10,200
it's a main event swing. 
He makes a lot of sense because 

1746
01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:14,120
there is upside to this offense 
like you can imagine like Caleb 

1747
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:16,760
Williams, like really high 
upside prospect Ben Johnson, 

1748
01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,880
really high upside to that 
offense in terms of his ability 

1749
01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,760
to design Roma dunce could be 
the number one there. 

1750
01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,800
You know, so all of these things
like come together and you can 

1751
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,960
see him absolutely smashing. 
There's just like a lot of cases

1752
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:33,720
where I think he doesn't pay off
at cost and he's he's less 

1753
01:30:33,720 --> 01:30:36,520
expensive in redraft. 
He's quite a bit more expensive 

1754
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:39,680
in best ball. 
He's not the to your point, 

1755
01:30:39,680 --> 01:30:43,240
Jacob, about like the second 
year guys maybe not panning out 

1756
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:47,480
at the rate that we've been used
to. 2nd year guys are like kind 

1757
01:30:47,480 --> 01:30:50,880
of sneaky risky in baseball when
they're expensive because we're 

1758
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,040
we're we're paying for a lot of 
optimism. 

1759
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:57,280
And if you take a fifth round 
pick who just like is like wide 

1760
01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:02,920
receiver 50, that fucking sucks.
That's that's a huge problem for

1761
01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:04,160
you. 
Yeah. 

1762
01:31:04,160 --> 01:31:08,080
So that's where I, I think from,
I don't want to be out on a 

1763
01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:09,720
doomsday. 
I'm, I'm trying to find ways to 

1764
01:31:09,720 --> 01:31:12,040
get exposure. 
But to me it's like it's more of

1765
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:14,280
like the main event. 
Like that's where I'm like, you 

1766
01:31:14,280 --> 01:31:17,840
know, high upside cracks. 
I can, I can find other 

1767
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:20,920
starters. 
I think he fits that format way 

1768
01:31:20,920 --> 01:31:23,160
better than best baller at his 
current ADP. 

1769
01:31:25,000 --> 01:31:28,120
I don't partake in discourse 
that brings up Rashad Bateman. 

1770
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:34,040
All of which I will say is that 
none of your hyper specific data

1771
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,360
analysis or film watching or 
anything honestly is even going 

1772
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:42,320
to matter for Rome. 
It's all really about does Ben 

1773
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:46,400
Johnson and Caleb Williams work?
Because my analysis of Rome 

1774
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:49,240
would be he's probably a little 
bit overdrafted in the NFL 

1775
01:31:49,240 --> 01:31:54,480
draft, but is like fine enough 
to get there in fantasy 

1776
01:31:54,480 --> 01:31:56,960
football. 
If Caleb Williams plays quite 

1777
01:31:56,960 --> 01:32:01,520
well and if Ben Johnson does his
like, I don't think Rome is 

1778
01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:05,080
like, is Rome going to be the 
next Justin Jefferson? 

1779
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:07,880
Certainly not. 
Is he ACD, Lamb, Jamar Chase, 

1780
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:09,960
Nico Collins, Brian Thomas, 
junior level player? 

1781
01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,360
I don't think so, which is 
interesting because Brian Thomas

1782
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:16,480
junior was drafted after him, 
but can he just kind of be AT 

1783
01:32:16,520 --> 01:32:20,240
Higgins style production guy 
where years that he scores 11 

1784
01:32:20,240 --> 01:32:21,960
touchdowns, he's a very good 
pick. 

1785
01:32:22,120 --> 01:32:24,440
Years where he scores 5 
touchdowns, he's probably not as

1786
01:32:24,440 --> 01:32:25,320
good of a pick. 
That. 

1787
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:29,560
That's kind of my opinion of 
Roman. 

1788
01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:33,600
Isn't that not like what with 
this much risk of it not working

1789
01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:35,280
out? 
Isn't that when you're saying 

1790
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:39,080
like, I don't think this unknown
guy who's coming off a bad 

1791
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,080
rookie season can be a 
superstar? 

1792
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:42,640
Like, then why are we taking 
what we're taking? 

1793
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:43,880
You're just. 
Saying you have more, you just 

1794
01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:47,080
have a lot of confidence in 
Johnson and Caleb working out 

1795
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,440
compared to us. 
Correct, Yeah, or at least I 

1796
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,040
think. 
I think I, I mean, Caleb, Caleb 

1797
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:57,040
was kind of fine throwing the 
ball in the games that he 

1798
01:32:57,040 --> 01:32:59,800
played. 
Now he took a, he took a, he 

1799
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,520
took a bazillion. 
Throwing as in when he didn't 

1800
01:33:02,520 --> 01:33:03,360
take a sack? 
Yeah. 

1801
01:33:03,520 --> 01:33:06,000
Targeting someone when he was 
targeting someone. 

1802
01:33:06,000 --> 01:33:08,520
Yes, that is literally. 
Which happened on like probably 

1803
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,320
about 60% of his drop backs. 
Well, there was like an actual 

1804
01:33:11,320 --> 01:33:13,840
stat that was mind blowing. 
Reeves had a stat of like he 

1805
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:15,760
just an insane. 
It was actually doomsday where 

1806
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,520
doomsday like ran like hundreds 
of routes where a target did not

1807
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:20,120
occur. 
Target was never it was never 

1808
01:33:20,280 --> 01:33:22,080
thrown. 
But you know, that's like not 

1809
01:33:22,560 --> 01:33:24,600
entirely. 
Like I know that's not like it's

1810
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:26,520
was it doonesday's fault that 
that happened? 

1811
01:33:26,520 --> 01:33:29,720
But like targets don't occur 
when people don't get open too. 

1812
01:33:29,840 --> 01:33:32,920
You know, it's like, that's not 
entirely just like the 

1813
01:33:32,920 --> 01:33:35,120
receivers, like, Oh my God, how 
did you not target anybody? 

1814
01:33:35,200 --> 01:33:38,240
I'm I'm comfortable, I'm 
comfortable right now just 

1815
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,400
pointing the finger at Shane 
Waldron and if I need. 

1816
01:33:40,440 --> 01:33:44,720
To it's mostly Waldron and it's.
Mostly if I need to readjust on 

1817
01:33:44,720 --> 01:33:47,000
that, I'm I'm open to 
readjusting, but that is my 

1818
01:33:47,000 --> 01:33:50,280
official company line right now.
Pat, I have an important 

1819
01:33:50,280 --> 01:33:53,680
question for you. 
If Ben Johnson is Carmi, who are

1820
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,080
the other characters on on the 
bear and is this bullish or? 

1821
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,680
Bear, who's is is Caleb 
Williams? 

1822
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:03,960
No, I think I think if you want 
to be really bearish or bullish 

1823
01:34:03,960 --> 01:34:05,360
on this, Davis is against 
height. 

1824
01:34:05,680 --> 01:34:08,240
I think you can make a case that
DJ Moore is cousin Richie. 

1825
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:11,440
Like I have a disgruntled fuck 
up, but he gets nurtured in a 

1826
01:34:11,440 --> 01:34:13,680
new environment. 
He gets sent to a nice 

1827
01:34:13,720 --> 01:34:17,600
restaurant to in the episode of 
four and he he starts to embrace

1828
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:18,720
himself. 
That's that's that's you. 

1829
01:34:18,800 --> 01:34:20,800
You. 
You beat me the whole case for. 

1830
01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,080
DJ Moore is cousin Richie. 
Yeah. 

1831
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:28,240
I could see that. 
Caleb think it got to be Chef 

1832
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:31,880
Sid. 
It's going to work. 

1833
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:36,360
I don't know. 
I think, yeah, I guess maybe she

1834
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:40,520
is. 
Keenan Allen is back, obviously,

1835
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:43,760
yeah. 
Keenan Allen is definitely. 

1836
01:34:47,560 --> 01:34:50,640
Back are we bearish on which 
bears belong in the bear. 

1837
01:34:50,640 --> 01:34:52,520
There might be Claire, because 
there seems to be some 

1838
01:34:52,560 --> 01:34:54,920
unresolved anger there between 
Ben Johnson. 

1839
01:34:56,320 --> 01:35:00,760
Huh. 
Yeah, is is Justin Fields, 

1840
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:04,120
Michael. 
Unfortunately, yes, Justin. 

1841
01:35:06,360 --> 01:35:07,000
Fields, Michael. 
RIP. 

1842
01:35:07,160 --> 01:35:09,760
Now I just, I need to, 
officially, obviously, as the 

1843
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:13,760
television grump around here, I 
need to say enough of this. 

1844
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:15,440
No more. 
No more. 

1845
01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:19,560
No more bear references. 
Bear or bears for today? 

1846
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:22,760
Yeah, we have. 
We have 20 minutes left before I

1847
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:25,480
have a heart out, by the way. 
Quickly on the next slide. 

1848
01:35:26,040 --> 01:35:29,720
Might be might be Marcus the the
pastry chef. 

1849
01:35:30,680 --> 01:35:32,480
Oh, that's possible. 
Yeah, I could see that. 

1850
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,640
He could blossom, but he might 
not blossom. 

1851
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:39,240
When he when he gets traded 
away, when he goes to Denmark 

1852
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:40,080
or. 
Forever. 

1853
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,080
He's going to be awesome in 
Europe, yeah. 

1854
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,440
I'll be I'll be drafting the 
sommelier Colston Loveland. 

1855
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:53,200
Negative news. 
Let's talk about the Rams for a 

1856
01:35:53,200 --> 01:35:55,400
minute. 
Anybody doing anything with 

1857
01:35:55,800 --> 01:35:57,360
Matthew Stafford? 
No, Matt. 

1858
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,040
Matt Stafford's back has been 
injured since 2011. 

1859
01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:03,320
Dead ass. 
True Fact Check me true. 

1860
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:08,520
Yeah, he's, if he, if he misses 
their, their teams like the 

1861
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:11,200
scrimmages where I think they're
against the Cardinals maybe. 

1862
01:36:11,200 --> 01:36:14,960
Next week. 
If he misses that, I will start 

1863
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,920
to think about thinking about 
thinking about being worried. 

1864
01:36:20,560 --> 01:36:26,360
But no, come on, settle down. 
You know, what I've done with 

1865
01:36:26,520 --> 01:36:30,680
with Stafford is I've, I've, 
I've started take McCaffrey over

1866
01:36:30,680 --> 01:36:33,080
puka. 
The market has it that way now 

1867
01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:36,720
and it's it's my excuse to go. 
Fine, fine. 

1868
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:38,400
I'll follow ADPI wasn't 
following ADP. 

1869
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:42,680
I've got like I had like 16% 
puka before the Stafford thing. 

1870
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:45,400
Yeah, I was. 
So, you know, it's tough to get 

1871
01:36:45,400 --> 01:36:48,440
16% of a first rounder, but I, 
but I'd done it and I now I'm 

1872
01:36:48,440 --> 01:36:50,800
just like, OK, I'll basically. 
You were almost the victim of an

1873
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:56,000
extinction event. 
Well, you know, here's here's 

1874
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,720
maybe the this is the this is 
what 16% puka will do to your 

1875
01:36:58,720 --> 01:37:00,920
brain. 
I was also like, I think he can 

1876
01:37:00,920 --> 01:37:03,920
get there with Jimmy GI think he
can do it. 

1877
01:37:04,640 --> 01:37:07,200
I I do think you can. 
I absolutely think you can 

1878
01:37:07,200 --> 01:37:09,000
because Jimmy G and Devante 
don't like each other. 

1879
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:11,280
So Google have an even higher 
target share of a child that's. 

1880
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:14,600
Right. 
Oh man, I completely forgot 

1881
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,480
that. 
Wow, that's, that's because you 

1882
01:37:16,480 --> 01:37:18,640
only had 16% PAT. 
If you had that extra percent, 

1883
01:37:18,640 --> 01:37:20,520
if you had 17 like me, you'd get
there. 

1884
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:27,760
That's that extra percent, but I
get the 20. 

1885
01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:29,920
I can't wait to think of what 
I'll see. 

1886
01:37:30,200 --> 01:37:32,200
So why do you want Jimmy G to 
start? 

1887
01:37:32,560 --> 01:37:34,240
I actually think Jimmy G is 
polished. 

1888
01:37:35,120 --> 01:37:39,400
I too have started mixing in 
other guys ahead of hookah 

1889
01:37:39,400 --> 01:37:42,520
because I as we've established, 
I'm scared and I don't take 

1890
01:37:42,520 --> 01:37:44,320
Christian McCaffrey. 
Although I'm thinking about re 

1891
01:37:44,320 --> 01:37:46,960
evaluating based on one clip of 
a wheel row versus a four string

1892
01:37:46,960 --> 01:37:48,040
linebacker. 
Who? 

1893
01:37:48,040 --> 01:37:48,960
Who could have? 
Who could? 

1894
01:37:48,960 --> 01:37:51,400
Have predicted that the greatest
fantasy football player of our 

1895
01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:54,080
lifetime would in fact be a good
fantasy football pick. 

1896
01:37:54,440 --> 01:37:58,040
Sadly, there was no way to have 
predicted this, Said the only 

1897
01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:01,720
said The said the only blind 
seal this has ever happened to. 

1898
01:38:01,800 --> 01:38:04,680
Tends to Christian Mccaffrey's 
2025 season. 

1899
01:38:04,680 --> 01:38:05,920
It is July 29th. 
Here's. 

1900
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,960
Literally why I checked in with 
myself on the Christian 

1901
01:38:10,960 --> 01:38:13,880
McCaffrey clip because he like 
caught the ball, but the way he 

1902
01:38:13,880 --> 01:38:17,000
like he had to reach out and 
like his knee kind of extended. 

1903
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,720
I was just like, like go down 
good. 

1904
01:38:19,720 --> 01:38:21,760
Like don't like. 
I didn't want to see any knees 

1905
01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:24,680
twist in like that's that's 
where I'm at with McCaffrey. 

1906
01:38:25,000 --> 01:38:28,600
It's it's just still July and I 
just want to see him fall 

1907
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,280
correctly. 
Don't get there. 

1908
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,240
The guy. 
The guy I want to draft the. 

1909
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:33,680
Guy, I'll be in on the main 
event. 

1910
01:38:34,000 --> 01:38:35,920
Yeah, go show. 
The guy I want to draft there is

1911
01:38:35,920 --> 01:38:38,960
neighbors, who, by the way, left
practice early today. 

1912
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,520
Shoulder run blocking. 
He's back, too. 

1913
01:38:42,160 --> 01:38:44,040
Yeah, he's also back. 
No, I don't. 

1914
01:38:44,120 --> 01:38:45,080
I don't think so. 
I think. 

1915
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:46,320
I think that is, I thought he 
was. 

1916
01:38:46,880 --> 01:38:48,600
Somebody said he was fine in one
of my group chats. 

1917
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:51,760
Maybe they're just manifesting? 
Jordan Renan said he's done for 

1918
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:53,280
the day. 
Oh. 

1919
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:59,120
OK, leave it at that. 
All right, we covered the next 

1920
01:38:59,120 --> 01:39:01,640
slide has other negative news 
items. 

1921
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:04,920
San Francisco, we covered a 
couple of those already, 

1922
01:39:05,240 --> 01:39:09,960
Jefferson and Mooney, last call.
Last call. 

1923
01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:13,800
I wanted to bring up this name 
and I'll pick them if I'm 

1924
01:39:13,800 --> 01:39:16,520
allowed to go. 
Go for it. 

1925
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:22,240
Dual MAFA. 
Start starting to feel Phil Per 

1926
01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,720
Brian Schottenheimer, one of the
most one of the most July 28th 

1927
01:39:25,720 --> 01:39:26,720
quotes I've ever. 
Heard. 

1928
01:39:27,960 --> 01:39:33,840
Starting to feel Phil out there.
Yeah, he's feeling Phil. 

1929
01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:36,560
Is anybody else feeling still 
though? 

1930
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:38,960
No. 
Brian Schadnamer is feeling 

1931
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:44,400
still, and Nick Schaub is eating
out yards and, yeah, eating. 

1932
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:46,120
Out SO. 
Did all I got with Christian 

1933
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:47,280
Wilkins. 
Is kissing deep? 

1934
01:39:47,520 --> 01:39:51,840
The the issue with Mafa and 
taking him an 18 round best ball

1935
01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:55,480
drafts is I I can't what do I 
think he's going to do better? 

1936
01:39:55,960 --> 01:39:58,520
Well, what do I think he's going
to do better than Javonte or 

1937
01:39:58,520 --> 01:40:00,720
Miles Sanders? 
Like he, he is the more. 

1938
01:40:02,120 --> 01:40:04,640
I mean, Miles Sanders is like 
going to be fine or whatever, 

1939
01:40:06,800 --> 01:40:08,840
all right or. 
Whatever is the thesis of the 

1940
01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:12,640
play, he nailed it. 
Yeah, yeah, or whatever is 

1941
01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:14,720
leaves. 
He's doing a lot of the work. 

1942
01:40:16,360 --> 01:40:21,600
I'm going to, I'm going to swoop
in and select Jacquavius Woody 

1943
01:40:21,840 --> 01:40:24,200
Marks. 
No, I think I took him a long 

1944
01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:25,560
time ago, didn't I? 
I don't. 

1945
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:26,920
Yeah, I have him. 
I already have him. 

1946
01:40:26,920 --> 01:40:28,000
Oh. 
Shit. 

1947
01:40:28,720 --> 01:40:30,640
All right, I'll I'll swoop in 
and. 

1948
01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:33,160
That's tough. 
I'll take the von Vele Oh. 

1949
01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:36,240
God. 
Didn't you? 

1950
01:40:36,280 --> 01:40:38,480
Didn't you I? 
I'm being, I'm being unironic. 

1951
01:40:38,480 --> 01:40:40,400
Didn't you see this trencher 
field update? 

1952
01:40:42,480 --> 01:40:45,040
No, I the last thing I saw was 
the vele was clearly the number 

1953
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:49,200
two there. 
OK, well, allow me to allow me 

1954
01:40:49,200 --> 01:40:51,920
to ruin kind of collectively 
everyone's day here. 

1955
01:40:52,120 --> 01:40:55,160
Chris Wecht, FF, who has got 
who's been doing a lot of 

1956
01:40:55,480 --> 01:40:58,200
athletic blurb reading. 
Yeah, good, good guy. 

1957
01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,240
Here's Here's the quote from 
Sean Payton. 

1958
01:41:01,600 --> 01:41:03,840
Trencher Field senior, the 
veteran wide receiver the 

1959
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:05,720
Broncos sign in free agency, in 
large part because of the 

1960
01:41:05,720 --> 01:41:09,040
experience of special teams, has
been a frequent target of 

1961
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,840
Denver's quarterbacks in camp, 
Peyton said. 

1962
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,400
He's tough and he can run. 
The other thing he can do is 

1963
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:15,960
block. 
We've always had a handful of 

1964
01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:17,280
receivers who can run a 
stretcher field. 

1965
01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:20,800
When you get one of those guys 
who can block and do that, you 

1966
01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:25,200
can set up the play action. 
That is a guy who is going to 

1967
01:41:25,280 --> 01:41:29,160
unnecessarily play 27% of the 
Denver Broncos offensive snaps 

1968
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:33,880
and just sort of damper it for 
everyone. 

1969
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,480
He's the new Lil Jordan. 
That's that's a very fair take. 

1970
01:41:36,920 --> 01:41:39,960
I would just say with Peyton, I 
don't know where you guys are 

1971
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:41,120
at. 
I'm at the point where I'm just 

1972
01:41:41,120 --> 01:41:45,560
like, tell me who's playing with
the ones who is with the ones. 

1973
01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:46,920
Like, I don't care what Peyton 
says. 

1974
01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:48,720
He'll talk. 
He'll talk of anybody. 

1975
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:51,640
He has been like, do I like that
He's been very positive on Troy 

1976
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:53,560
Franklin in this offseason? 
Of course. 

1977
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:57,240
But like you get out there and 
camp and it does look like it's 

1978
01:41:57,240 --> 01:42:00,960
Vele now. 
It's that should mean in my mind

1979
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,880
that's that means it's probably 
Vele that, you know, maybe Pat 

1980
01:42:03,880 --> 01:42:06,360
Bryant by the end of the year. 
But like to start the year, if 

1981
01:42:06,360 --> 01:42:08,160
you're looking at the second 
year guys, I think we should 

1982
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:10,680
assume it's Vele over Franklin 
because he's playing over 

1983
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:14,720
Franklin. 
I also have Pat Bryant and Troy 

1984
01:42:14,760 --> 01:42:17,400
Franklin on my last call team. 
So this Denver squad, I just 

1985
01:42:17,400 --> 01:42:19,480
need some points, man. 
Give me give me some points in 

1986
01:42:19,480 --> 01:42:21,800
Denver and. 
I'll I see Pat selecting Jarrett

1987
01:42:21,800 --> 01:42:24,560
Stiddams at some point down the 
road just to give himself a shot

1988
01:42:24,640 --> 01:42:27,480
late in the season. 
I just want to, I just want to 

1989
01:42:27,480 --> 01:42:30,520
do one more point here, which is
that I think the market with 

1990
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:34,480
Bryant, Mims, Franklin and Vele 
is, was basically making the 

1991
01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:38,760
assumption that there is no 
Brandon Johnson, Lil Jordan 

1992
01:42:39,320 --> 01:42:42,880
equivalent. 
And I, I sadly think we have 

1993
01:42:42,880 --> 01:42:45,840
found the, the, the little 
Jordan that just kind of means 

1994
01:42:45,840 --> 01:42:50,200
Sutton is the only one that has 
any kind of consistency. 

1995
01:42:50,200 --> 01:42:54,880
Because the the thing about 
Peyton is it's just such a like 

1996
01:42:54,880 --> 01:42:56,680
Gretch. 
Gretch is the greatest writer 

1997
01:42:56,680 --> 01:42:59,080
about Sean Payton. 
Like he, like he like he he 

1998
01:42:59,080 --> 01:43:02,080
basically has written a a. 
There's like a mind meld on that

1999
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,080
man. 
Yeah, he like knows Peyton 

2000
01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,360
inside and out. 
And and the thing that Gretch 

2001
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,240
always says is it's just always 
so tortured. 

2002
01:43:08,240 --> 01:43:10,480
It just, it all feels 
unnecessary. 

2003
01:43:10,840 --> 01:43:13,880
And that is like totally like, 
what is why do you want Trent 

2004
01:43:13,880 --> 01:43:17,040
Sherfield? 
Like why can't we just played 

2005
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,160
even Valet who I obviously don't
like, but like why can't we just

2006
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,240
give him 70% of the routes? 
And it just feels like Sherfield

2007
01:43:23,240 --> 01:43:26,960
is the way for Sutton to get all
the routes and then just total 

2008
01:43:26,960 --> 01:43:30,160
rotation with the other guys, 
which is just horribly annoying.

2009
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:35,080
Yeah, it will probably be Sutton
95% rut rate and then like 

2010
01:43:35,440 --> 01:43:39,560
Bryant, Franklin, Mims, 
Sherfield valet. 

2011
01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:45,120
Nate Nate Adkins is somehow like
playing H back on 20% of the 

2012
01:43:45,120 --> 01:43:46,840
team. 
Like just so tortured. 

2013
01:43:49,160 --> 01:43:52,080
Having played a dynasty for a 
long time, there's lots of 

2014
01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,880
players that, you know, I'm 
like, why aren't they playing 

2015
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:57,640
this guy? 
And the answer is almost always 

2016
01:43:57,640 --> 01:44:01,000
because he's not good. 
You know that that's not that's 

2017
01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:03,520
not, you know, there's lots of 
cases where we're like this guy,

2018
01:44:03,520 --> 01:44:05,720
look at all this evidence that 
this guy is good play this guy 

2019
01:44:05,720 --> 01:44:06,960
is good. 
And they don't play him and they

2020
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:08,240
finally play him and he's 
awesome, like. 

2021
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,160
But with Marvin Mims, it's not 
true. 

2022
01:44:10,160 --> 01:44:13,400
Marvin Mims is actually good. 
He's the one where it's not 

2023
01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:15,640
true, I think. 
That I think that I think that 

2024
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,920
Peyton actually uses Mims quite 
correctly, which is that like 

2025
01:44:19,080 --> 01:44:22,120
Mims is good but very limited. 
Like you look at like his 

2026
01:44:22,120 --> 01:44:24,320
reception perception stuff and 
like his like beating man 

2027
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:27,080
coverage deplorably bad. 
But like he's obviously a 

2028
01:44:27,080 --> 01:44:30,200
really, really great deep threat
and he's very good in space. 

2029
01:44:30,640 --> 01:44:33,560
And so I think the role for Mims
is actually pretty perfect. 

2030
01:44:33,840 --> 01:44:36,800
What I don't really get is why 
he feels the need to use four 

2031
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:38,760
different of the same type of 
wide. 

2032
01:44:38,800 --> 01:44:41,200
Receiver four different. 
Field rules I don't like. 

2033
01:44:41,200 --> 01:44:44,720
I don't know why we need Brandon
Johnson and Humphrey and 

2034
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,440
Franklin. 
Like to me it's like just just 

2035
01:44:47,440 --> 01:44:53,840
do suck Mims in a specialized 
role and then pick one of Brian 

2036
01:44:53,840 --> 01:44:55,520
or Franklin. 
It's got to be. 

2037
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:57,680
Maybe it's because he doesn't 
think any of them are good and 

2038
01:44:57,680 --> 01:44:59,640
he just wants like he wants 
depth. 

2039
01:44:59,800 --> 01:45:02,680
Like let me let me just keep 
running these guys in and see if

2040
01:45:02,680 --> 01:45:04,520
someone can pops it. 
Make sure they're all familiar 

2041
01:45:04,520 --> 01:45:05,680
with, you know, if someone gets 
hurt. 

2042
01:45:05,680 --> 01:45:06,960
I got, you know, I don't have 
to. 

2043
01:45:07,440 --> 01:45:09,240
Worry about someone? 
Not knowing the offense. 

2044
01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,760
Only one of them has he cops to 
Michael Thomas. 

2045
01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:15,400
I don't even. 
Know I I bet I bet you we could 

2046
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,640
find comps to Michael Thomas for
veil like or something. 

2047
01:45:17,640 --> 01:45:19,000
I bet. 
Yeah, I I. 

2048
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:21,520
Bet you. 
Yeah, that feels stone cold 

2049
01:45:21,520 --> 01:45:26,560
true. 
So I I got sniped months ago on 

2050
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:27,360
on. 
The marks. 

2051
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:32,040
So I'm going to take a guy I am 
legitimately excited about 

2052
01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:37,080
actually that I'm taking with my
money in drafts, which is key. 

2053
01:45:37,080 --> 01:45:40,240
Andre Lambert Smith for. 
The Los Angeles No. 

2054
01:45:40,360 --> 01:45:41,800
That's a good one. 
Yeah. 

2055
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:45,200
Nice. 
Oh, who the hell am I going to 

2056
01:45:45,200 --> 01:45:46,360
pick? 
I just decided and then I 

2057
01:45:46,360 --> 01:45:50,200
already forgot. 
Oh, I remembered again. 

2058
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,360
I will do. 
Slap Demon on Jacob's rush. 

2059
01:45:53,400 --> 01:45:55,720
Who is Slap Demon Wix? 
Yes. 

2060
01:45:55,840 --> 01:45:56,840
Yeah, Yeah. 
That is Wix. 

2061
01:45:57,320 --> 01:45:58,600
That is Wix. 
Oh really? 

2062
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:03,840
What else? 
Could it be I will take God I 

2063
01:46:04,200 --> 01:46:07,040
don't even know. 
This game sucks. 

2064
01:46:09,280 --> 01:46:15,080
Such a great game, yeah. 
It is a really good game. 

2065
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:22,680
It's a good game. 
All right, I'll, I'll, I'll. 

2066
01:46:22,680 --> 01:46:29,320
Buy the maybe Terry Mclaurin 
doesn't play until early, isn't 

2067
01:46:29,320 --> 01:46:33,640
in shape, gets injured, bad 
things happen for his season and

2068
01:46:33,640 --> 01:46:35,880
I will take Noah Brown. 
There it is. 

2069
01:46:35,960 --> 01:46:37,840
Oh, I thought you were going 
Jaylen Lane. 

2070
01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:40,120
That's better. 
Scratch. 

2071
01:46:40,120 --> 01:46:41,280
No, a brown. 
I'll take Jill. 

2072
01:46:41,280 --> 01:46:43,760
Oh my God, do I actually take a 
draft? 

2073
01:46:44,200 --> 01:46:46,160
I'll take Jill and Lane. 
Thanks, Davis. 

2074
01:46:46,800 --> 01:46:48,360
You need your team to get 
younger anyway. 

2075
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:50,840
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
I got to bring down the age of 

2076
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:52,280
my theme. 
Can we credit that? 

2077
01:46:52,280 --> 01:46:54,440
Can we just have a little 
asterisk that that gets credit 

2078
01:46:54,440 --> 01:46:56,040
to Davis? 
I just want to. 

2079
01:46:56,360 --> 01:46:59,520
Make sure yeah, he yeah, he 
threw that off at the rim. 

2080
01:47:01,200 --> 01:47:05,520
OK, picks her in next time we 
talk Corrine. 

2081
01:47:06,680 --> 01:47:07,160
You. 
Oh, he. 

2082
01:47:07,360 --> 01:47:08,680
Took Bailey. 
Yeah. 

2083
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:11,800
Next time we talk, the Hall of 
Fame game will have been played.

2084
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:13,280
That's two days away. 
Look at that. 

2085
01:47:13,440 --> 01:47:17,640
We got action today on my show 
with WGR in Buffalo. 

2086
01:47:17,640 --> 01:47:21,280
On the Odyssey app, I have Jim 
Lampley at 4:00 Eastern. 

2087
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,120
That should be really great. 
I've never spoken with him 

2088
01:47:24,120 --> 01:47:27,360
before. 
Legendary announcer from from, 

2089
01:47:27,440 --> 01:47:29,680
you know, boxing 
quintessentially, but for many 

2090
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:31,800
years. 
And I'll be on the GOAT district

2091
01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:35,640
tonight with JD and Dan. 
That's at 9 Davis. 

2092
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:42,760
Swellcast right after this and 
then I'm going to go get a mole 

2093
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:46,160
removed at 1:00 PM Central. 
And if I have time in between 

2094
01:47:46,160 --> 01:47:50,680
that and the Fantasy Pros 
podcast that I'm recording, I 

2095
01:47:50,680 --> 01:47:52,440
will stream a couple of 
basketball manias. 

2096
01:47:53,320 --> 01:47:57,080
So be at your computer at like 
2:00 PM Central time, 3:00 PM 

2097
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,720
Eastern. 
Right from the operating table. 

2098
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:01,760
Yeah, we'll see. 
We'll see. 

2099
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:03,440
Don't know. 
I have no idea how long that 

2100
01:48:03,520 --> 01:48:06,560
sort of thing is will take. 
Sometimes very quick. 

2101
01:48:07,480 --> 01:48:12,960
It's true dedication, Jacob. 
Yeah, find my stuff up. 

2102
01:48:13,080 --> 01:48:15,400
I'm thinking about thinking, of 
course we're going to be kick 

2103
01:48:15,400 --> 01:48:17,400
starting. 
The Hitchhiker's got the running

2104
01:48:17,400 --> 01:48:20,200
back pre season edition. 
So I can almost guarantee you 

2105
01:48:20,200 --> 01:48:22,120
I'm going to start with the 
Jacksonville Jaguars backfield 

2106
01:48:22,120 --> 01:48:24,760
because I got to get my updated 
Tank Bigsby takes in there. 

2107
01:48:26,040 --> 01:48:28,040
So we'll be running through that
a lot of this week. 

2108
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:31,800
Also, fun announcement, 
continuing to follow the Sam 

2109
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:34,640
Sherman career arc. 
I will be hosting the waiver 

2110
01:48:34,640 --> 01:48:38,520
wire show on Underdogs Network 
following Monday Night Football 

2111
01:48:38,840 --> 01:48:41,280
this week or this season I 
should say. 

2112
01:48:41,760 --> 01:48:44,560
And I was on with Hayden 
announcing that and doing a show

2113
01:48:44,560 --> 01:48:47,440
on 10 controversial players 
yesterday. 

2114
01:48:47,480 --> 01:48:49,680
You guys go check out on that 
network. 

2115
01:48:49,920 --> 01:48:51,600
And yeah, said this to you guys 
all season. 

2116
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:55,320
Congrats I I did have that in 
the cold open which sadly has 

2117
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,560
been lost to history. 
Lost to history? 

2118
01:48:57,880 --> 01:49:01,640
Much, much appreciated Joe. 
I will be I will be leaving the 

2119
01:49:01,640 --> 01:49:04,280
fantasy industry to become a 
management consultant on in. 

2120
01:49:04,280 --> 01:49:08,560
Later. 
OK, Deloitte hiring, believe it 

2121
01:49:08,560 --> 01:49:11,160
or not. 
Pat. 

2122
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:16,960
We've got, I've been working on 
an article that I'm hoping to 

2123
01:49:16,960 --> 01:49:19,600
have out this week that is going
to look at some of the breakout 

2124
01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,560
wide receiver candidates in the 
mid rounds. 

2125
01:49:22,920 --> 01:49:24,960
Digging into the some of the 
first read stuff for that. 

2126
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:27,840
So excited to share that with 
you guys. 

2127
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:30,840
Matt Irby has an article 
breaking down the the Chiefs 

2128
01:49:30,840 --> 01:49:34,280
wide receiver situation that 
we'll have out tomorrow. 

2129
01:49:34,720 --> 01:49:37,520
And today's the last day. 
If you want to lock in the 

2130
01:49:37,680 --> 01:49:43,000
Sidekick 125 monthly price, 
today's the last day to do so. 

2131
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:46,360
We also still have $20 
DraftKings bonus tickets 

2132
01:49:46,360 --> 01:49:49,040
available for Sidekick 
subscribers heading over to 

2133
01:49:49,040 --> 01:49:51,680
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Fill out a form so I have your 

2134
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:54,080
DK username. 
Enter the tournament and you're 

2135
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,800
eligible for a bonus ticket 
there as a Sidekick subscriber. 

2136
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:00,800
But yeah, that's it. 
Rankings articles. 

2137
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:01,800
Check it out. 
Legendary Upside. 

2138
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,360
Very good. 
I will see you guys next week 

2139
01:50:04,360 --> 01:50:08,520
from Kawagama, Lake, Ontario, 
about four hours north of here, 

2140
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,760
and I'm very confident their 
Wi-Fi will be better than mine. 

2141
01:50:12,400 --> 01:50:14,760
Thanks for watching. 
Should I? 

2142
01:50:14,760 --> 01:50:16,000
All right. 
I do on. 

2143
01:50:16,040 --> 01:50:17,320
Well, I do when I go on 
vacation. 

2144
01:50:17,320 --> 01:50:18,880
You never know. 
We will make it work. 

2145
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,840
We made it work today. 
Thanks for your patience guys 

2146
01:50:21,160 --> 01:50:22,320
and have a great week.
