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Hello everybody and welcome to 
ATP chasing. 

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We have a lot to discuss today. 
Dalvin cook finally was released

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Madison. 
Tie Chandler Dwayne The Bride or

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shooting up draft boards and the
elite quarterbacks continue to 

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slide. 
We'll break it all down here. 

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On ATP chasing. 
Let's go. 

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Pat fryer, homo Anita hand job. 
Fix your side with your bar. 

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There's that. 
Yeah. 

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So I've been waiting for for 
months and months guys we kept 

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hearing Dalvin, cook is going to
be released. 

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I took maybe a little bit longer
than we thought but finally got 

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that close to June first news on
them. 

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So yeah, he's out curious 
curious what you think Pat, how 

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you been treating? 
The Madison and Vikings running 

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backs with cook. 
Now gone. 

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Yeah, I misread the situation in
terms of what the market would 

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think. 
To me, I mean, Madison's like 

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kind of a very capable number 
two and I fell back but not all 

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that good. 
He wasn't a particularly strong 

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Prospect, he's slow. 
He's been solid third-round 

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draft Capital. 
So it wasn't like, you know, 

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they three guy necessarily but 
it's been pretty solid when 

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given a shot. 
He can do everything is 

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versatile but he's kind of like 
a poor man's Josh Jacobs type of

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dude or kind of a David 
Montgomery type of guy. 

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Like he's not someone I ever be 
excited to draft. 

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I know this is like a pretty 
solid offense, probably maybe a 

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borderline playoff team again, 
you know, and they'll definitely

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run the ball. 
Still, I read an article. 

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I think on the athletic where 
they're talking about how 

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they're still going to run the 
ball, like this is not a team, 

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the philosophy shift but I mean 
the fact that he's kind of 

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jumped up. 
Very quickly. 

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It does. 
I mean I just I just misread 

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that I thought like this was 
kind of priced in like I thought

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people realize cook was gone 
because it was seems so obvious 

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that he was going to be gone. 
But no, there was an additional 

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bump here, so I should have 
taken more Madison prior to the 

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obvious, cook release. 
I don't think that I will take 

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him again. 
If he goes kind of in the 

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background five range, I just 
think he's like a quintessential

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DeadZone back at that price and 
I think, you know, the reason 

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that I don't like to take these 
backs in, you know, one of the 

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reasons is that they're 
susceptible to losing work as 

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the season goes on. 
So if I'm going to be taking 

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Madison, like I would be more 
inclined to do it in a format 

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that doesn't have a three-week 
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So I think in particular in best
Ball Mania. 

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He just strikes me as pretty 
unappealing. 

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So he's going, right? 
Let's get some contacts. 

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He's going right now at pics. 
65, that's ahead of guys like 

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Swift as former teammate, Dalvin
cook can Is Pacheco and just 

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behind guys like Damien peers, 
smile Sanders JK Dobbin. 

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So that's a ranking justify that
but it does seem like he's 

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moving up. 
I saw some stuff that would you 

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know, right after that he people
saw him unlike the three four 

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turn type of area. 
I don't think I'll settle there,

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but there was like a lot of 
optimism about how she should be

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like ahead of Miles Sanders in 
that crew and if he does settle 

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there, that's why I'm saying, I 
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Davis. 
What are your thoughts? 

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What are your predictions for? 
Where he ultimately Ends up and 

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will you be drafting at all? 
I've not taken him since the 

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news. 
I was taking him before because 

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I just thought it was so 
perfectly. 

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Telegraph what was going to 
happen. 

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But I mean exactly what we said 
was going to happen, which is 

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what every TR is ranking is 
right about where he's going to 

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get. 
Drafted ET are ranked him 

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running back 16. 
He's going right about running 

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back 16. 
Since the Dalvin Cook news, I 

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prefer every dude who goes ahead
of him except for my Sanders, I 

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like Pierce more. 
I like Dobbins a lot more. 

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I like Aaron Jones and Joe Mixon
a lot more. 

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My prediction, the day. 
It happened was that he would 

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end up going where Kenneth 
Walker's going, we'll see, you 

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know, it will really depend on, 
oh, you know, Ty Chandler. 

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They really Otay Chandler's 
doing everything. 

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The coaches asked, he's playing 
on third Downs there, wait, 

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until we get the first, they're 
actually going to use Thai 

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Chandler, and Alexander Madison 
together on the field. 

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Wait, till wait until we get 
that one then. 

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Then we'll see what happens but 
I think Pat I mean you forgot 

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the first rule of fantasy 
football which is that the 

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community will like a guy until 
he burns them. 

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Alexander Madison has never had 
a start in which he was bad out.

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There's ever been a time where 
you pick Madison up off the 

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waiver wire where you held them 
all year and you started them 

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and and you got screwed right 
now. 

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I believe I want to say maybe 
there was one start that he got 

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hurt himself in but And large, I
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game in starts is like 19 and a 
half or something. 

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Yeah. 
Like have to be our Davis, I 

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have it pulled up its eighteen 
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I think it's that one like one 
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couple of huge smash start. 
So like that. 

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I think you. 
I mean, like we should at least 

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presentable case for I think I 
agree with you guys. 

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But like, let me let me do 
double. 

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He just gets Dalvin Cooks 
workload. 

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He's Miss price by two rounds. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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And I do think that I largely 
agree with like the the dead 

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center arguments, he's not a guy
that we love. 

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Is talent, but I mean his back. 
It's not like we can get overly 

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excited about these backups so I
don't know. 

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I think like, I would probably 
fairly priced them at like, pick

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six. 
Yeah, I think I'd have him just 

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ahead of Sanders and just behind
like Dobbins Aaron Jones mixed 

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in. 
Well, like, I do still world 

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were like, oh, we get so worried
about, you know, Ty Chandler, 

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under sized committee, College 
back, who got zero offensive 

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snaps last year until week 18, 
you know, Duane McBride. 

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Who has the lowest yards per 
outrun them Running back, like 

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ever in college, like, it's not 
like these backups are 

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tremendously interesting. 
So I do see a world where he 

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holds onto the job, the whole 
year and is like a slight win at

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his, at his price. 
But yeah, I mean, I like, I 

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mean, we pretty much any running
back in the league, you know? 

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I don't know, there's probably 
50 running. 

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Let's there's like, probably 50 
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if you were to give them an 80% 
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Sure. 
They would be a smash And he's 

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in that group. 
If he has an 80% snap, sure all 

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year your, he's going to be the 
guy but like, hmm. 

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I guess the fact that he's been 
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cook hasn't played, you know, 
that's that's great. 

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But it we talked about the one 
of the reasons that I like going

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200 running back or just kind of
targeting these like antifragile

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type of running back guys. 
Is that a lot of times the 

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backup will consolidate Work. 
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of them or, you know, you have 
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Dylan. 
If, if Aaron Jones order Miss 

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time each of them would get like
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we expect AJ Dillon to get a ton
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you know, figure out what the 
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Beyond just the main guy. 
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running back, the capable or be 
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He handles everything, it's 
awesome but that's not 

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necessarily generalizable to an 
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they go into the season knowing 
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so yeah, the bull case to me is 
he just gets 80% of snaps and he

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just like kind of has the season
Josh Jacobs had last year. 

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Yeah, I mean, it's a good 
season, right? 

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I mean, it's a good Susan 
Viking. 

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Good sale items off the Vikings 
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The question really is, does one
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Chandler? 
Make a serious case to be 

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either? 
And it can go either way, right?

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So, in wamuu and Chandler would 
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the third down work. 
And if that happened, that would

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not be good. 
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be good, would be if the Wayne 
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He's right and both of those 
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more of a trap back. 
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to the market, you compare the 
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Swift to me has like sub 10 
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workload. 
Maybe that might even be too. 

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I Dalvin cook, I think 
completely Left 4 Dead Acres. 

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I mean you know who knows what's
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right? 
I feel and their offense might 

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be way worse. 
I Auto drafted Acres with your 

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Star Trek. 
I just, and I let it, I let it 

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take down, I like forgot, I've 
been drafting like, computer, I 

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don't use it because it screws 
up my queue, and I've got like, 

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her, the spike, we cool. 
So then I'll my phone, I 

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switched over and I was I had 
Jerry Judy at a nice value in 

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the fourth round and I was just 
like doing something else like 

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letting it take down, take down 
to zero and fourth round cam 

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Akers popped up. 
You got it, you got it. 

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If you're gonna do, if you're 
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correlating players trick, you 
got to really be on your game. 

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You cannot it cannot be like 
Like I've learned that the hard 

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way, you know, like doing one 
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walking the dogs, whatever. 
That's the GTO time to do the 

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star. 
Everyone is when your 

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multi-tabling when you're doing 
like 45 and you're doing cardio 

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or just sitting on the couch or 
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Because yeah you'll get, I mean 
and I've had some terrible ones.

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You know that there are Derek 
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you take devant it. 
Like I've had some really really

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bad ones so it's definitely a 
little bit about One lat add one

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last year where I was doing like
the walking my dog and I went 

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through like a dead spot in 
cells ourselves up in Maine and 

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like sometimes where I'm living 
like the sell services trash. 

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I had I think Justin Jefferson 
the first. 

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So start all the Vikings ended 
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Auto draft in the third and I 
could like the worst part two 

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is, I could see it coming. 
Like it wasn't that I had looked

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away from my phone, like the 
countdown. 

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It's that you literally cannot 
put. 

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Yes. 
Yeah. 

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And I was trying to click it and
I just I couldn't do anything 

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about it and just got out of 
jail, on the third. 

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So just a disaster. 
It's gotta be careful with that 

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strategy but but you know, 
you'll get people, you'll get 

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people on Twitter who will be 
like. 

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I can't believe you do this. 
Like, you're like, you're you 

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wasted. 
It's like I'm pretty shy, my 

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guess is, you're gaining much 
more EV by just. 

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Yes. 
Actually if you're multi-tabling

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by knowing exactly who you need 
to click like, if you're, if 

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you're multi-tabling and you're 
not doing this, you're just 

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going to draft uncorrelated 
teams, your brain, your brain, 

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don't have enough, your brain is
the star 100%. 

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Yeah. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah my feeling on the whole 
that whole tear the like I kind 

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of like Dobbins Diamond. 
Someone I don't think I've 

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drafted him a ton but I'm he's 
one of the guys as I'm like 

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reviewing what I've done. 
I'm like should probably take 

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more Dobbins. 
I think there are scenarios 

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where that offense is awesome 
for. 

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He looks way better after, you 
know, the second year after the 

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the multi ligament tear, there's
like upside scenarios. 

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I Can See For Dobbins, I think 
like at his height Dobbins was 

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super talented. 
So, you know, I kind of get on 

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board with that, but I just am 
not taking a lot of these 

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running but I mean, this is the 
dead zone to me, you know the 

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the Sanders, the the Aaron 
Jones, I mean this, they're 

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priced a little bit later, 
little bit lower than they have 

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historically been three years 
ago, these guys would have 

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probably been like fourth round 
picks or whatever. 

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But this is still a range where 
there's a lot of opportunity 

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cost. 
You know, delete tight ends are 

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often available in the sixth 
round. 

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Now I'm sixth round. 
Kittel has somehow become a 

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Thing. 
It's crazy. 

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So I actually found it. 
Six. 

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Round Kyle pits. 
Yeah I see seventh round 

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calpads. 
Now sometimes goddard's 

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regularly in the seventh I think
there's six in the seventh round

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are still coming with a lot of 
opportunity cost and so I just 

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don't have a lot of interest in 
taking any of these six round 

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running backs like Mi Sanders. 
I have very little of yeah. 

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So it's more of an overall type 
of thing for me rather than 

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quibbling about we should be 
before or after Sanders, like, 

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I'm not drafting standard I 
don't really care, you know. 

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Yeah, that's fair. 
The one guy and drafting a 

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little bit of recently in this 
range. 

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Well, two guys, I am drafting 
Kenneth Walker. 

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I think like he's not really the
typical Dead Zone profile 

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because I mean, there's a 
success rate stuff. 

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We want to do that whole 
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talent is also great. 
Success rakers, doesn't 

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understand Kenneth Walker's. 
Jean. 

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Yeah. 
They'd on her side and kind of 

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locker going burn for some, you 
don't sounds. 

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He does just, he does something 
really well. 

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Like he is, Uh, yeah, Fred will 
break away Runner. 

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You know, I think I did both 
Seattle running backs. 

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I think, I think both, I think 
both. 

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Yeah, nice. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, I've taken them both on 
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I think there are direct that 
against each other. 

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I think they are, they are. 
But imagine, if you had taken 

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Walker and Penny on a bunch of 
teams together, washer, you got,

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you got like five baller-ass 
weeks and then you got Kenneth 

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Walker, closing, these different
prices, though. 

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They were both in that. 
Yeah, single digit wrong. 

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Yeah, I've done both when they 
both, I've done both like wants 

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it. 
Because they both slept past, 

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like, around pass ATP. 
And I was like, at this point. 

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Sure, I think there's a world 
where this works out. 

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But anyways, back to what I was 
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will have absolutely zero 
Madison once he gets above 

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Dobbins, mix in Walker because I
think, you know, you can just 

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MIT, I'm not drafting like a ton
of those other guys, but I will 

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never draft Madison over those 
guys to think the talent is just

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a lot better, like the offense 
of ceiling for Cincinnati 

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Baltimore. 
More Seattle. 

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I think is a lot better than it 
is for Minnesota. 

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So like I can kind of see like 
yeah, above Sanders Sanders 

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talents, probably better. 
Minnesota's offensive situation 

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is probably better like I can I 
can maybe see why if you were 

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forced to draft a running back 
there which you never are. 

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But if you're forced to, I can 
see going. 

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Who are you? 
Never are. 

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Yeah, like the bills were all 
have Madison and it won't be a 

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lot is probably if I go lots of 
water, severs, lots of 

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quarterbacks lots of tie downs, 
early and then Madison slips, 

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like Six pass ATP. 
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he can pay off if he's your 
first running back. 

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I think I think his points will 
be more valuable there. 

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So that's what it is for me. 
If like I was in a draft where I

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had a lot of water severs the 
you know I didn't have a chance 

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to get an elite quarterback so I
feel really good at wide 

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receiver kid'll and Pitt's go 
and like I don't have any Eagles

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and I'm like I don't feel like 
they can got her here in 

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Madison's like, you know, it's 
the end of the sixth round in 

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Madison sitting there. 
I'd be like, okay yeah price 

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I'll take him. 
That's, that's what it would be.

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That's like, sort of what 
Sanders is to me. 

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So where's David is also 
sometimes take Dobbins in that 

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like 5th 6th turn area and feel.
Okay. 

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Yeah, I take goblins, I think 
goblins a lot with Lamar because

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Lamar is if you, if you if you 
miss out on Mark Andrews he's 

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kind of hard to correlate and 
both Bateman and say I've it's 

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hard to get both of them. 
Yeah. 

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Just the way you can get one of 
them pretty easily you get one 

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of them every time. 
Right? 

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But I mean if you're taking a 
third-round quarterback, you'd 

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like I have like three or four 
of his teammates, ideally things

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and I mean, I will be chasing 
the ghost of Mark Ingram's. 2019

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season for the rest of my life, 
you know, because that should 

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have been just isil that, that 
Mark, Ingram season should have 

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been just isil and I'll never 
ever forget it. 

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I take some Gus Edwards to. 
Yes. 

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Edwards. 
Gus Edwards is like if that dude

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stays healthy for 17 games, 
you're getting 150 PPR points or

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half PBR points. 
It sounds pretty thank you. 

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The only thing you're dodging 
was that words is like the I 

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guess he's not fully healthy 
right now and I think you're 

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dodging them like sighing. 
Yeah, these vets at this point 

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but I've sold it taking, I've 
been taking him. 

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Let's let's put the fall or the 
excuse me, the risers on the 

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chart here. 
So these are the largest risers 

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of the past week. 
Before we completely move on 

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from the Madison conversation, 
tie Chandler is on this chart 

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rows 16 spots in a teepee Davis.
I'm curious if you are taking 

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bets on the Minnesota running 
back to who is your favorite out

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of Chandler? 
I'm trying to take Chandler. 

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Trying to take Chandler every 
single time because I think he 

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and Wanda or like the same skill
set. 

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But Chandler I think is like, 
the more effective. 

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I mean, if you just look at 
their college stats like and 

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Wang, that was like a scatback 
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just like insane athlete in 
college. 

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And, you know, kind of kind of 
in like a Jerick McKinnon style 

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way, just taught himself how to 
play running back. 

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Where's Tyler? 
Ty Chandler's, just a running 

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back you know? 
I mean I don't know if he's like

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a great one but he's really 
Pretty athletic 438 at 205 

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pounds and the thing is McBride 
I think is going to run into the

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you know, the Ronald Jones 
problem where unless he unless 

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he figures out how to play 
special teams. 

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If you're not the third down, 
specialist your and you're just 

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kind of like a running back, 
he's going to be he's going to 

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be the healthy scratch, right? 
Unless one of the other running 

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backs ahead of him gets her, 
whereas I think Chandler just 

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should be active on game days. 
The second. 

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Background. 
I mean that that's the way I 

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would project it right now. 
And I think the market has not 

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adjusted enough for some of this
stuff yet. 

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Like Dalvin cook is going to be 
a Miami Dolphin, but three 

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Dolphins running backs all go 
ahead of time Chandler. 

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And and like one of these 
Dolphins Max is either going to 

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get caught or is like not going 
to play at all, and it's not 

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kind of stuff. 
Drafted, I'm not really draft in

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the morning. 
I was taking a bunch of them 

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early saying like, well, you 
know, this Dalvin cook thing is 

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kept going on. 
So maybe there's Thing to mine 

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there. 
I mean, the other thing is, is 

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cook might just be absolutely 
like unplayable, like he might 

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just be done. 
So maybe it doesn't matter to 

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the Dolphins teams. 
We've already drafted but 

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long-winded way of saying. 
I'm pretty much taking tide 

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Chandler as my fifth or sixth 
running back like every team. 

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I'm drafting right now assuming 
someone else didn't take him you

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know someone else didn't get 
jumped him in the sixteenth 

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round or whatever. 
Yeah. 

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Pat what are your thoughts? 
Because I think I'm a little 

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more into McBride but curious 
what you think on the Vikings 

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running back to the situation. 
I mean, if I was like a Vikings 

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coach, I'd be way more intrigued
by McBride, you know, he's sort 

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of a to down compliment in 
Madison the strength of what he 

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brings is really versatility. 
And so I think that McBride 

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would be like a pretty 
interesting kind of Khalil 

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Herbert type of guy like a 
little bit of an explosive 

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rushing element that you Dad but
we're not in charge of the 

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Vikings and I think what 
probably will happen. 

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Is exactly what Davis lined out.
They laid out which is, you 

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know, it's not just that 
McBride. 

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I don't think he's going to play
a lot of special teams. 

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It's that like, Kenny. 
And wamuu was like, drafted to 

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play special teams to play 
special teams. 

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It's what he does is, why he's 
on the roster. 

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So like he's gonna be active. 
So, now comes down to Chandler 

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versus McBride and one of them 
is going to be an active and 

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McBride missed the, the OT, a 
period with. 

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I forget exactly why. 
But he didn't, he wasn't around.

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And so he's also day three 
rookies. 

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Like what a sixth round pick. 
The odds are that he will not 

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really see the field much this 
year. 

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So yeah, I think Chandler's 
probably I think I should be 

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drafting more Chandler. 
I've been mixing him in at the 

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end of drafts. 
But I like Davis's approach 

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better. 
Yeah. 

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So I guess my push back there is
that I got that McBride is a 

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late. 
What seventh-round pick as a 

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rookie. 
But Chandler was also a day 

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three pick last year who saw 
Zero offensive snaps until week 

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18. 
Like I don't think we have any 

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evidence that that's very that's
very Very Vikings though, right?

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That's that's that's what they 
do, like Mike bun, great 

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example. 
This like Mike Boone was pretty 

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listen, different staff and 
staff institutional memory of 

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bro. 
It's like and I'm really ways. 

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I think my point is like I'm not
saying I'm confident, it's 

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McBride. 
But like I said, the reason I'm 

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probably not taking a ton of 
Chandler, especially this price.

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Rises up is, I think the snare 
you outlined for McBride being 

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the healthy. 
Scratch could easily be 

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Chandler. 
Like, I don't know. 

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I don't think we have any 
evidence that the Vikings 

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Chandler. 
Like they took him what around 

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earlier. 
But, I mean, zero offensive 

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snaps until week 18 last year, 
like I don't know. 

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Like, I don't think we have much
signal about how. 

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Yeah, you can read it. 
The player can read it. 

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You can read it, whatever way 
you want. 

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You can do flips, or whatever, 
for whatever it's worth in the 

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games that tie Chandler was 
active. 

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For last year, he was a core for
special teamer, so he was active

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in week four. 
He played 19 special team snaps,

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he was active in week five, he 
played nine special teams, And 

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he's acting, weak 18 and played 
11, special team snaps, which 

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means he was on punt, kick 
kickoff coverage, which is, I 

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know it's really boring shit. 
But, like, this, this reading 

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the tea leaves on special teams 
with second and third running 

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backs is like an actual and 
actual skill, right? 

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You know, it's what, it's what I
mean, it costs me money last 

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year because I refuse to read 
the tea leaves. 

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But it's what led people to 
Pacheco early on was was being 

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like, well, he's going to be 
active for kick return. 

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Ins. 
And so it's like Ronald Jones. 

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What do you do here? 
Yeah, yeah, I think I mean, 

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yeah, that's it. 
That's a big thing that 

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Chandler's got multiple outs 
being active, although, I guess 

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you could say, since in Wong was
going to be the kick returner, 

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maybe they're just so maybe, 
maybe we're actually reading it 

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and reverse because because your
third running back is locked in 

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to being your special teamer. 
So maybe you just take the best 

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running back. 
For running, certainly good and,

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and, and maybe that'll be 
McBride. 

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I mean McBride has run certainly
as a rusher profiles way, way 

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more Charter. 
McBride's profile is a rusher is

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the best thing. 
Any of these guys do, if it 

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translates, I mean, he did it at
UAB so who knows? 

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But if he's that guy, he's 
elusive, his elusive writing was

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off the charts in college, he's 
like a fairly big, not huge, 

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but, you know, he's can be a guy
that makes a guy miss or Her 

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powers through a guy and he's 
got some juice as a rusher as 

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well. 
He kind of reminds me like a 

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Damien Pierce type, like he 
accelerates quickly. 

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00:22:54,500 --> 00:22:58,700
He has no or Gus Edwards. 
He he's got no final gear but he

446
00:22:58,700 --> 00:23:02,400
can be someone who like explodes
through the line and, you know, 

447
00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,300
yeah. 
Except what's block plus five 

448
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:07,900
type of guy pretty regularly. 
So, you know, maybe that but he 

449
00:23:07,900 --> 00:23:10,000
needs. 
He now needs because the other 

450
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,800
thing is he's missed that period
where he had a chance to impress

451
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,800
guys, and shorts. 
He doesn't. 

452
00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:21,000
And he's had You know, he had an
injury in the pre-draft period, 

453
00:23:21,000 --> 00:23:24,200
which is one of the reasons that
he fell, you know, if he, if he 

454
00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:27,700
had a chance to work out and 
impress guys, press Scouts, 

455
00:23:27,700 --> 00:23:31,300
maybe he's a day to pick this 
given how productive he was a 

456
00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:34,100
rusher, but he's kind of behind 
the eight ball here. 

457
00:23:35,100 --> 00:23:37,100
I will say that, you know, you 
could read the quotes that the 

458
00:23:37,100 --> 00:23:40,600
Vikings are given about Chandler
either way, they've been asked 

459
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:43,300
about him and, you know, if he's
gonna have a bigger role and 

460
00:23:43,300 --> 00:23:46,800
they're basically like, he's 
going to have to So you can sell

461
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,600
like see there. 
They're planning on using them 

462
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:54,300
or they're like fuck I read it. 
I read it the same way Israel. 

463
00:23:54,300 --> 00:23:57,100
A band of Canada is getting 
talked about which is like yeah 

464
00:23:57,100 --> 00:23:59,500
he's going to have to play 
because we literally hate 

465
00:23:59,500 --> 00:24:03,200
Michael car turns on of at night
like this like they are so bad 

466
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:06,400
that we're just going to have to
use this fifth round rookie 

467
00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:08,300
while we're waiting for briefs 
to get back. 

468
00:24:08,300 --> 00:24:11,300
Like I don't think it's that 
they're super enamored with a 

469
00:24:11,308 --> 00:24:13,700
banach and it's just that they 
hate the other guys they have on

470
00:24:13,700 --> 00:24:17,200
their roster, right? 
So, McBride has maybe an opening

471
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:20,100
that if he impressive, but he 
but you know, what? 

472
00:24:20,700 --> 00:24:22,100
What do you put the odds on 
that? 

473
00:24:22,300 --> 00:24:25,200
Like, How likely is either? 
I'm pretty entry. 

474
00:24:25,200 --> 00:24:30,400
I'm pretty into it. 
I think that like, the, the drum

475
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,600
Ford free Square used to be able
to take him and the 18 rounds 

476
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,100
means completely. 
It's completely gone. 

477
00:24:35,100 --> 00:24:37,700
So like I've you like look at 
some of these other running 

478
00:24:37,700 --> 00:24:39,200
backs. 
We're going late like guys who 

479
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:44,100
are unsigned, guys, who are real
cut threats, Zach Evans, you 

480
00:24:44,100 --> 00:24:46,700
know, might not even might not 
even I make the team Joshua 

481
00:24:46,700 --> 00:24:50,300
Kelly, you know, dudes Vaughn, 
look, we love do spawn here on 

482
00:24:50,300 --> 00:24:53,500
this program, but he's probably 
on the outside looking in, for a

483
00:24:53,500 --> 00:24:55,400
roster spot with Dallas like, 
Chandler. 

484
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,200
My kind of, like, kind of think 
it's between Malik Davison, 

485
00:24:58,300 --> 00:25:01,700
Ronald Jones, and then Vaughn 
will do his phone if they sign 

486
00:25:01,700 --> 00:25:03,600
Zeke this all changes. 
But yeah, sure. 

487
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,500
Yeah. 
Because I think the other thing 

488
00:25:06,500 --> 00:25:09,900
too, to call out of it, all 
these situations right is that 

489
00:25:10,300 --> 00:25:13,400
we still have like what? 
Three to four Veteran running 

490
00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,200
backs that I think are gonna 
work. 

491
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,100
Way into running back to rolls 
on some team right for net. 

492
00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:22,400
Oh yeah, the oven cook Zeke 
creamed honey. 

493
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,400
Maybe you can cream haunt you 
could say, or maybe looking more

494
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,200
at our be three roles on teams, 
but I don't think an rb2 tear. 

495
00:25:29,300 --> 00:25:31,900
I think this one name-brand 
alone, someone's going to assume

496
00:25:31,900 --> 00:25:33,600
you'll be there or be too. 
Exactly. 

497
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:37,100
So like, that's the thing with 
Minnesota, you know, they they 

498
00:25:37,100 --> 00:25:39,500
cut Dalvin cook and save 10 
million. 

499
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:42,300
I think they could justify, you 
know, fournette. 

500
00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:44,200
I don't think he's like, looking
for money, right? 

501
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,300
He's talked about like going. 
To a team that has a chance to 

502
00:25:46,300 --> 00:25:48,700
win the Vikings made the 
playoffs last year, right? 

503
00:25:48,700 --> 00:25:51,300
Maybe he strikes out on the 
Chiefs and other places where he

504
00:25:51,308 --> 00:25:54,700
really wants to go and takes two
million from the Vikings, right?

505
00:25:54,700 --> 00:25:57,300
I don't know, I'm not, I'm not 
ruling out of Veteran running 

506
00:25:57,300 --> 00:25:59,500
back Landing, beautiful letters 
for net. 

507
00:25:59,500 --> 00:26:02,700
If Leonard fournette signs with 
the Vikings, he is going to get,

508
00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:04,300
I'm gonna drop the shit out of 
him. 

509
00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:05,900
I didn't have answers, get out 
of them. 

510
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:08,600
He's one of my highest on guys. 
Like he's free. 

511
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,000
You can get them in that. 
Yeah. 18 ground. 

512
00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,400
Sometimes I do. 
I do like fournette. 

513
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:18,000
Much more than hot and Zeke. 
Yeah, because he's as cheap as 

514
00:26:18,000 --> 00:26:22,400
hunt, but I think he's got more 
left in terms of like, like for.

515
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,900
That's never really had that 
much but he's right, but he 

516
00:26:25,900 --> 00:26:29,200
still has that right? 
Like, he's still big, he can 

517
00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,300
run, but he can get going like, 
OK. 

518
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,900
And then he's hard to bring down
once he's getting going. 

519
00:26:33,900 --> 00:26:39,000
Cuz he's fucking huge and teams,
trust him in pass, blocking, and

520
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:42,000
pass, catching and also trust 
him at the goal line, right? 

521
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,200
So like he can, he's a guy with 
the running back, one goes down.

522
00:26:45,300 --> 00:26:46,800
Down. 
He can find himself in a really 

523
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,700
high value. 
Touch roll, I think. 

524
00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:51,200
Yeah, yeah. 
That's, that's another reason I 

525
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,400
like him. 
Yeah, go on. 

526
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,500
Work and dump offices, like, his
whole game. 

527
00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,100
Yeah, yeah, he's a big, one of 
the biggest compilers. 

528
00:26:58,900 --> 00:27:02,300
All right, let's move on from 
the Viking situation. 

529
00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:03,900
Let's talk about the Cardinals 
again. 

530
00:27:03,900 --> 00:27:07,200
This week, we have both Rondell 
more and Marquis Brown 

531
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,800
continuing to move up on the 
d-hop news. 

532
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,900
Rondell is a guy that I 
personally have come around on 

533
00:27:13,900 --> 00:27:17,600
more, I want to pull out this. 
Stat from this is from Hayden 

534
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:23,800
Winks on Twitter, that Rondell 
more played, 77% of the wad of 

535
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:27,100
to wide receiver set, actually 
cast lire, more than, actually, 

536
00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:28,400
more than that, because he got 
hurt. 

537
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:30,300
And one of those games, it's 
even higher. 

538
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:33,000
He had multiple games, have 100%
snap share. 

539
00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:36,700
And yeah, so it's like, I, in my
head, I was, like, Rhonda more 

540
00:27:36,700 --> 00:27:39,100
56, he doesn't play into wide 
receiver sets. 

541
00:27:39,100 --> 00:27:40,800
That's actually not true last 
year. 

542
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,800
Now, it's worth noting obviously
that in those games, either 

543
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,600
Marquis or Dion. 
Dre Hopkins was out. 

544
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,400
So if both those guys have been 
healthy, certainly he was not 

545
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,700
going to play into our receiver 
sets in those games but just how

546
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:55,200
the cards fell last year. 
That's there's no Hopkins is 

547
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:58,100
going exactly. 
So I guess the question I'll 

548
00:27:58,100 --> 00:28:00,400
give this to you. 
Pat like do you think that 

549
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:04,400
Rondell more playing into water 
silver sets is like their plan 

550
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:05,600
this year? 
It was that just sort of a 

551
00:28:05,608 --> 00:28:09,000
desperation play last year when 
they didn't have that a lot 

552
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:15,300
better alternatives. well, I've 
also think, you know, What is 

553
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:18,900
this offense going to look like 
in terms of Base Personnel? 

554
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:22,400
Because you know, one thing you 
can say for Cliff, I don't want 

555
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,100
to say too much for him but your
they used a lot of three wide 

556
00:28:25,100 --> 00:28:26,400
receiver sets. 
Mmm. 

557
00:28:26,500 --> 00:28:28,300
You know, they used a ton of 
three wide receiver sets. 

558
00:28:28,300 --> 00:28:33,400
So Ron Elmore wasn't like always
out there, you know, on the 

559
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,100
outside. 
Even if he's playing, you know, 

560
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,800
we're running a hundred percent 
of routes. 

561
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:41,300
Yes, he could still be in the 
slot for a lot of those Snaps. 

562
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,400
Are they going to use quite as 
much? 

563
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,800
That base three wide receiver 
set under this you know new 

564
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,500
coaching staff. 
I would guess they use that a 

565
00:28:50,500 --> 00:28:55,300
fair amount but that's certainly
like a reason to may be worried 

566
00:28:55,300 --> 00:28:58,000
a little bit. 
Especially if down the stretch 

567
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:01,600
they get anything out of Michael
Wilson. 

568
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,700
Is their third round pick. 
I don't think he's all that much

569
00:29:04,700 --> 00:29:07,500
of a threat but he is kind of a 
bigger. 

570
00:29:07,700 --> 00:29:10,400
He's sort of an Alec Pierce type
like if you just want a guy on 

571
00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,300
the outside is going to run 
straight down the field and draw

572
00:29:13,300 --> 00:29:16,100
the defense. 
You would put out a start. 

573
00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:19,800
Well, you put out a or Michael 
Wilson out there as opposed to 

574
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:24,500
Rondell more. 
And so, you know, if you just 

575
00:29:24,500 --> 00:29:29,700
think about like who is Rondell 
more really, he strikes me as 

576
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:34,700
like the kite, the type of guy 
who might run between 80 and 85 

577
00:29:34,700 --> 00:29:39,600
percent route rate as a really 
good slot receiver like if you 

578
00:29:39,608 --> 00:29:42,600
had really good I've got your 
Rondell that's got here on Dale 

579
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:45,200
comp. 
He's just. 

580
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:47,700
Kobe Myers and this offense, 
right. 

581
00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:52,300
Mmm. 
I don't that seems like almost 

582
00:29:52,300 --> 00:29:55,800
overly optimistic to me. 
I'm, well, your, I hear drafting

583
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:58,300
him as he's gone up, 50 spots in
a teepee. 

584
00:29:58,300 --> 00:30:00,300
You're probably feeling 
optimistic, right? 

585
00:30:00,500 --> 00:30:03,000
Well, sure. 
But yeah, I think he's more 

586
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,600
like, he's like, he's like a 
toddler Boyd with more 

587
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,500
explosiveness? 
Yeah, I mean, that, that would 

588
00:30:08,500 --> 00:30:11,200
be, that would be. 
The thing would be that this 

589
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,200
sort of real run after the 
catch. 

590
00:30:14,900 --> 00:30:18,500
Insane ability that we've always
thought he had actually shows 

591
00:30:18,500 --> 00:30:23,000
himself in 2021 in week 2 
against the Minnesota Vikings, 

592
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,600
always remember, because I just 
was so enthusiastic about 

593
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,800
Rondell more as a rookie. 
He scored a was like a 65-yard 

594
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,400
touchdown against the Minnesota 
Vikings like whipping and 

595
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,600
weaving in around the defense, 
the whole way. 

596
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,700
Eight targets, seven receptions,
114 yards, and one touchdown. 

597
00:30:38,900 --> 00:30:42,700
And that is the last time around
no more ever had a 100-yard 

598
00:30:42,700 --> 00:30:48,500
game. 
I-i'm in seeing a little I'm 

599
00:30:48,500 --> 00:30:51,500
seeming a little facetious but I
do actually think Greg torches 

600
00:30:51,500 --> 00:30:54,900
still the guy I'm taking here. 
He's free. 

601
00:30:54,900 --> 00:30:56,700
What's the, what's the thesis of
the play with George? 

602
00:30:56,700 --> 00:30:58,900
I don't really get it. 
It's Dortch. 

603
00:30:58,900 --> 00:31:03,000
Is the thesis of like It's 
really the same as sort of like 

604
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,900
the to to thesis or the my point
a lot of high point and catches 

605
00:31:07,900 --> 00:31:10,200
know like that like the you 
know, it's like the Paris 

606
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,600
Campbell. 
It's just like he gets in there 

607
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,000
because he just runs really 
reliable routes. 

608
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,200
You never drops the ball. 
He just he's just going to be. 

609
00:31:18,500 --> 00:31:21,700
He's going to be great or she's 
gonna be he's gonna do what he 

610
00:31:21,700 --> 00:31:24,300
did when he played last year. 
I don't think he's got in the 

611
00:31:24,300 --> 00:31:25,900
ceiling. 
Like I think great. 

612
00:31:25,900 --> 00:31:28,900
George has zero one thousand 
yard seasons and his range of 

613
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:31,200
outcomes doesn't have any double
digit touchdown. 

614
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:32,700
See, Within his range of 
outcomes. 

615
00:31:32,900 --> 00:31:37,000
But I also the Dortch thing 
plays on. 

616
00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,600
It's a total train wreck season 
for Arizona. 

617
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:43,100
They're playing Clayton. 
Tune in week, 17 Kyler never 

618
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:45,300
comes back. 
It's just, they're just trying, 

619
00:31:45,300 --> 00:31:49,500
they're just, they go and 17 
and, and, you know, Hollywood 

620
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:52,300
chips and nail. 
And they're like, all right Bud.

621
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,200
Let's put you on, let's put you 
on IR. 

622
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:58,500
It's that thesis, but wasn't he?
Mostly filling in for Rondell 

623
00:31:58,500 --> 00:32:03,300
mores and that how he I believe.
I believe, I believe he filled 

624
00:32:03,300 --> 00:32:05,600
in for both Rondell and 
Hollywood. 

625
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:08,400
When they got banged up last 
year, I believe that is the 

626
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:09,800
case. 
You have to tell me if I'm 

627
00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:11,000
wrong. 
Yeah, I think you're right. 

628
00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:16,600
So in week 7 he ran 816 routes 
and then 18 rounds in week, 8 

629
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,600
and Rondell had 30 routes and 
fifty two rounds. 

630
00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:22,400
Also played. 
He also filled in a little bit 

631
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,300
for Hopkins. 
I mean, he played 91% of the 

632
00:32:24,308 --> 00:32:29,000
snaps and week one right before 
before anyone was injured, well 

633
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,300
Rondell didn't play week, one 
Rhonda. 

634
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,800
Only play weeks 4 through 11. 
So George was torture is 

635
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,900
relevant in the first three 
weeks and then his routes took a

636
00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:40,800
big hit. 
What was his? 

637
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,200
What was he was filling in for 
Arundel. 

638
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,400
Mostly what was his targets for 
Route run last year? 

639
00:32:45,500 --> 00:32:47,300
I'd be I'd be curious to know 
that. 

640
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:51,800
Yeah, it's I've worked Targets 
on. 

641
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:55,800
It's got to be kind of decent I 
would think just because he runs

642
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,700
it was really easy. 
Routes 18 and a half not great, 

643
00:33:00,700 --> 00:33:03,500
it's fine. 
That's the thing with to talk 

644
00:33:03,500 --> 00:33:07,300
about Rondell again, like the, I
know the targets for Route runs 

645
00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:10,800
stuff, like loves Rondell, but I
don't think people account for 

646
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,300
how much of those are schemed, 
like, slugs in the same way. 

647
00:33:13,300 --> 00:33:18,400
Yards per it loves canaries. 
Tony, it's yeah, it's so he was 

648
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,200
running a lot. 
Like, I'll give him a little bit

649
00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,300
more credit than Tony because at
least he was running all the 

650
00:33:22,300 --> 00:33:25,900
routes, but I mean, you look at 
his stat lines last year and he 

651
00:33:25,900 --> 00:33:29,200
had a lot of high Target games, 
but his a tots going to be 

652
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:30,800
really low. 
I don't know. 

653
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,700
I like it. 
You look at some of the wide 

654
00:33:32,700 --> 00:33:36,400
receiver wide receiver charting 
stuff over the last two years. 

655
00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:39,700
Rondell more. 
In terms of open score is like, 

656
00:33:39,700 --> 00:33:43,200
95th out of 128, qualifying wide
receiver. 

657
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,000
So again, that's not like the 
end-all-be-all stat, but I'm 

658
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,200
pretty skeptical. 
He's a, he's a guy that's going 

659
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,600
to go out and beat man coverage 
down the field. 

660
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:52,700
Like I just don't at this point.
I think we would have seen a 

661
00:33:52,708 --> 00:33:55,600
little bit more of that. 
By now that said like bring it 

662
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:00,200
all around wide receiver, 136 
for a guy that I think projects 

663
00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:03,900
Supply into wide receiver. 
Assets is not a terrible price. 

664
00:34:03,900 --> 00:34:06,500
Like I'm not quite 36. 
Sorry. 

665
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,000
Sorry, ATP of 136 is, what 
happened? 

666
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:13,300
Sorry wide receiver 62. 
Oh yeah, he's a like, I'm 

667
00:34:13,300 --> 00:34:15,900
probably taking him ahead of 
like Romeo Dobbs. 

668
00:34:15,900 --> 00:34:18,000
Is there, I'm fine taking him 
out of Dubs. 

669
00:34:18,300 --> 00:34:21,300
I'll take him ahead of feeling 
and take him out of probably. 

670
00:34:21,300 --> 00:34:23,400
Darnell Mooney will take you 
ahead of you. 

671
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:27,800
Can imagine drafting it. 
Lets the other is your little 

672
00:34:28,199 --> 00:34:30,699
shorter. 
I think you do, too. 

673
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,100
You play Pickleball and I 
literally, I vote another thing.

674
00:34:34,100 --> 00:34:39,900
Imagine, there are two guys who 
go Smith Schuster and and 

675
00:34:39,900 --> 00:34:41,199
thielen. 
I just don't know who's 

676
00:34:41,199 --> 00:34:42,900
clicking. 
Yeah, he's taking them. 

677
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:48,000
Like, why is DeVante Parker got 
like a 0% draft but you just 

678
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,699
missed you, sir is wide receiver
for? 

679
00:34:49,699 --> 00:34:51,900
Yes, Juju. 
Okay. 

680
00:34:52,199 --> 00:34:54,300
Juju is not that. 
It's not that bad. 

681
00:34:54,300 --> 00:34:57,700
I don't take a lot of him, it's 
not that bad, but it's not that 

682
00:34:57,700 --> 00:34:58,600
bad. 
We've talked. 

683
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,200
Okay, we've talked about, let's 
not get sidetracked into you. 

684
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:03,300
You too much. 
We talked about how one of the 

685
00:35:03,300 --> 00:35:05,600
biggest edges this year. 
Is just the fact that New 

686
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:08,500
England did not have an 
offensive coordinator last year 

687
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,800
this year. 
They do, he's being drafted. 

688
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:13,300
Why don't think that's a reason 
to draft a guy who couldn't do 

689
00:35:13,300 --> 00:35:15,300
shit with Pat? 
Yeah, that's exactly put up. 

690
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:16,900
Okay. 
Couldn't do shit. 

691
00:35:16,900 --> 00:35:20,200
He drew a hundred targets and 
had I not receiving yards, like 

692
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:24,100
it's if it's a little overhead 
stayed on the Chiefs. 

693
00:35:24,700 --> 00:35:26,900
I don't know that. 
I would like him at this price. 

694
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:33,600
No, no, I would obviously. 
Yeah, I would Well it's so gross

695
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:37,100
but like I heard you got hurt. 
He was not good. 

696
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,400
He was not good with Patrick 
Holmes knows. 

697
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:44,100
He's I think I think the more I 
think the more bearish JuJu 

698
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:48,700
thing is that these are his 
postseason. 

699
00:35:48,700 --> 00:35:52,100
These are his postseason numbers
to targets to receptions against

700
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:55,100
Jacksonville. 
One target, one reception 

701
00:35:55,300 --> 00:35:58,500
against the Cincinnati Bengals, 
nine targets seven, receptions 

702
00:35:58,500 --> 00:36:01,200
53 yards in the Super Bowl. 
That's super bear. 

703
00:36:01,300 --> 00:36:03,700
Irish, that's an evil. 
I heard a good Superbowl 

704
00:36:03,700 --> 00:36:14,700
performance right there against.
Yeah, 

705
00:36:25,500 --> 00:36:27,200
I don't think any of these other
risers. 

706
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,300
I don't think any of these are 
interesting. 

707
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,800
Well, well, let's Touch on 
Thornton because I think like to

708
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,400
your point of Interest, this is 
all Slappy driven. 

709
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:38,000
This is all. 
It's all Slappy driven. 

710
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,000
Its, this is baked in, this is 
literally just like Pete 

711
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:42,700
streams. 
Making up a bigger percentage of

712
00:36:42,700 --> 00:36:45,000
the overall. 
Yes, and this is this is this is

713
00:36:45,500 --> 00:36:48,100
pure sloppy. 
That's all I just want to. 

714
00:36:48,100 --> 00:36:51,700
I want to mention Thornton 
because we legendary upside, we 

715
00:36:51,700 --> 00:36:54,400
had a bump DeVante Parker up the
ranks just because we're like I 

716
00:36:54,408 --> 00:36:57,500
guess he is a human being who 
plays football we should have 

717
00:36:57,500 --> 00:36:59,300
him. 
He's saying is he had a bomb up 

718
00:36:59,300 --> 00:37:04,000
the ranks who's we? 
Well, the I'll way, but so it's 

719
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,800
like there's anything. 
The Royal we talking about a 

720
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,500
solo project. 
I do that all the time. 

721
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:11,900
Like yeah, we really appreciate 
it, right. 

722
00:37:12,300 --> 00:37:14,300
Totally. 
I do I do have a little bit of 

723
00:37:14,300 --> 00:37:19,800
help with the ranks behind the 
scenes, but but the, the 

724
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,600
Patriots thing, I mean, if you 
just say Juju stinks, I don't 

725
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:26,700
feel like drafting the most 
expensive guy on the, on the 

726
00:37:26,707 --> 00:37:30,600
Patriots who also is a pure slot
receiver, I can get there to 

727
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,200
starting out. 
Wide receivers, and they're 

728
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,200
starting tight end for free. 
Later. 

729
00:37:36,300 --> 00:37:38,100
Why would you do that? 
It seems like a better way to 

730
00:37:38,100 --> 00:37:40,100
play it. 
Yeah, no, I agree. 

731
00:37:40,100 --> 00:37:41,900
It's a better way to. 
Okay, I'm not saying overweight 

732
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:45,200
Juju, I'm going to be underway 
Juju, but I don't think it's 

733
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:50,500
just like I think the the hate 
on Juju is a little overblown. 

734
00:37:50,500 --> 00:37:53,700
I think he could basically do 
what Yoko be like, he's gonna be

735
00:37:53,700 --> 00:37:55,500
in the same role as Jacoby Myers
last year. 

736
00:37:55,500 --> 00:37:58,600
Jacoby Myers also guy not 
awesome at beating man. 

737
00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:02,000
Kind of a slot wide receiver. 
I think Myers is is better than 

738
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,300
Juju but I think that could be 
outweighed by the fact that the 

739
00:38:04,300 --> 00:38:07,700
Patriots offense as a whole is 
going to be way more confident 

740
00:38:07,700 --> 00:38:10,700
than it was last year. 
So like just put him in the 

741
00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:13,000
Myers roll the offense gets a 
little bit better. 

742
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:15,700
He does like a little bit worse 
in terms of like share than 

743
00:38:15,700 --> 00:38:19,300
Myers did and I water ski 450. 
Like I don't think it's I don't 

744
00:38:19,300 --> 00:38:24,500
think it's like awful but I'm 
not taking think one thing you I

745
00:38:24,500 --> 00:38:27,100
will say for Myers. 
I don't know if he gets like 

746
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:30,700
full credit for the fact that 
like last year he played 30 

747
00:38:30,700 --> 00:38:34,600
percent of So why'd he was at 
33% was a career low as well. 

748
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:40,500
Said 34 percent the year before 
35% career percentage it out 

749
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:45,600
wide and JuJu's been like mean 
as time has gone on he's just 

750
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,700
become more and more of like a 
pure slot guy so I don't know. 

751
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,100
You actually did play a lot of 
snaps out wide with the Chiefs, 

752
00:38:52,500 --> 00:38:55,800
but he sucked. 
So might be back to the Steelers

753
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,800
usage. 
Like, if this is kind of nuanced

754
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,000
point but like if Jacoby was 
Jean. 

755
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:04,700
The Patriots. 
I would be more excited about 

756
00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:09,000
him than I am Juju. 
But the fact that Juju like okay

757
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,600
you can say that these other 
Patriots water severs are 

758
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,700
discounted or whatever but like 
man look at taekwon Thornton's 

759
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,400
like targets for outrun guards 
around last year like that was 

760
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:19,100
garbage. 
Like look at anybody else, it 

761
00:39:19,100 --> 00:39:22,100
was Garb like I think Juju does 
have a meaningful chance of just

762
00:39:22,100 --> 00:39:26,600
like scooping up all the volume 
in this offense in a way that 

763
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:28,900
Jacoby Myers on the Raiders with
Davante. 

764
00:39:28,900 --> 00:39:33,100
Adams does not write. 
So, That's what I'm kind of bad 

765
00:39:33,700 --> 00:39:35,000
Patriots. 
Do seem underpriced. 

766
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,200
Because one way this could play 
out as that Ramon, Dre, just 

767
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:40,300
gets you kind of don't, that's 
the best way to play be like in 

768
00:39:40,300 --> 00:39:44,100
a cooler type of, dude. 
Yeah, okay. 

769
00:39:44,100 --> 00:39:49,800
Anyways, not enough Juju talk 
the other other Trend. 

770
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,600
I wanted to call out here is mix
in is rising and he hasn't had 

771
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,100
any. 
Like I don't think he's been 

772
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:58,000
featured on this chart heavily, 
but he's just that it illegally 

773
00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,400
fired higher. 
This also felt inevitable to me 

774
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:05,600
like because sort of it sort of 
like a Lindy effect thing where 

775
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,000
every single day that he's not 
cut or jailed or traded it's 

776
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,600
just more likely. 
He's going to be the Bangles 

777
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:13,000
running back. 
Quan, right? 

778
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:17,600
So, what even is, I actually 
like did 20 minutes of Googling 

779
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,700
on mix and trying to find, like 
any recent news or whatever like

780
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:24,000
have you guys heard any like 
updates because there's like 

781
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,700
nothing at like I'm kind of 
pricing in like a very low 

782
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:32,500
suspension risk at this point. 
I don't know if that's smart or 

783
00:40:32,500 --> 00:40:33,600
not. 
But like, at this point, I'm 

784
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,700
kind of treating it. 
Like, I don't know, 10 percent 

785
00:40:35,700 --> 00:40:37,600
chance of being suspended or 
cut. 

786
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,400
I don't know. 
It's pretty uncertain but 

787
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,600
there's not a lot of recent 
positive out This blowing up for

788
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,000
him, I don't know. 
Could be like seem like a little

789
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,900
plug risk. 
Yeah, I think almost I think 

790
00:40:50,900 --> 00:40:53,100
almost no cut risk. 
I mean the Bangles are trying to

791
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:55,300
win a Super Bowl. 
Are there going into the season 

792
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,300
with Chris Evans treyvion 
Williams? 

793
00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:00,300
And who's the other guy that 
people like, Curt Chase? 

794
00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:03,100
Chase Brown, it's brown? 
Yeah. 

795
00:41:03,100 --> 00:41:04,900
Now the Bangles Bangles are 
trying to win a Super Bowl. 

796
00:41:05,000 --> 00:41:07,600
They're not, they're not cutting
mix in right now. 

797
00:41:08,300 --> 00:41:10,700
The, yeah, I think that the 
concern is that he gets 

798
00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:16,000
suspended and I don't know, 
that's been hard for me to price

799
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:21,900
the odds of that because Nothing
has really changed in a positive

800
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:27,100
way since this incident surfaced
like he I thought like, I 

801
00:41:27,100 --> 00:41:30,100
drafted a ton of them in the 
late stage of the big board, 

802
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,500
which I feel good about now 
because he was, he's moved up 

803
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:36,300
significantly in price since 
then. 

804
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:39,600
But I felt kind of sick to my 
stomach for a minute. 

805
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:42,800
After I realized that what I 
thought then was that this 

806
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,500
charge had gone away because 
they like Miss filed it and it 

807
00:41:45,508 --> 00:41:48,400
was, it was pulled but the 
charge has not gone away. 

808
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,800
They Old, it was some sort of 
clerical, whatever. 

809
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,400
The police officer not the 
follow the procedure correctly 

810
00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:01,200
or something so they like pulled
it and then we filed it now. 

811
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:06,300
It's been very quiet since then 
but he does still face this 

812
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,100
charge and that could lead to a 
suspension. 

813
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,300
And I don't know, it's sort of 
like in the absence of not 

814
00:42:11,300 --> 00:42:14,000
really hearing about it. 
We're just and by the way, 

815
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:15,900
wrong, right? 
We shouldn't get more, we should

816
00:42:15,900 --> 00:42:18,200
be exactly. 
Same confident, we were a month 

817
00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:23,400
ago. so, an interesting thing as
it pertains to that, this is my 

818
00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:26,000
if I can be, Bryan Winters, 
here, if I could point for a 

819
00:42:26,008 --> 00:42:33,300
second teams and the league when
it comes to running backs, They 

820
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:35,900
throw the hammer down on the 
suspension because it doesn't 

821
00:42:35,900 --> 00:42:39,000
matter, right? 
Like they're they're like cream 

822
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,300
hunt you there's a video of you 
shoving, a woman in a hallway, 

823
00:42:42,500 --> 00:42:45,900
cut, cut in the middle of a 
thousand-yard 15 touchdown 

824
00:42:46,100 --> 00:42:49,400
season. 
Alvin Kamara, like I mean, come 

825
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,500
on, might end up suspended for 
the year, you know, and and who 

826
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:55,600
knows how that goes. 
I just that's my that is my 

827
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:58,600
wintour's pointing me is that 
when it is a running back, who 

828
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,300
is in trouble when it is a 
running back, who has this legal

829
00:43:01,300 --> 00:43:04,700
thing, I feel like The book can 
be throwed. 

830
00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:08,400
Whereas if this was if this was 
Jamar Chase dealing with this, I

831
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,300
mean the Bangles would be. 
They like they would Johnnie 

832
00:43:11,300 --> 00:43:13,000
Cochran would be his lawyer, 
right? 

833
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,300
I mean, there would be there 
would be a full-on like legal 

834
00:43:17,300 --> 00:43:21,300
assault, to keep Jamar Chase 
from missing a down of football.

835
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:24,200
So that is when I and I 
obviously I'm not saying that 

836
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,200
this is morally justifiable. 
It's fucking gross. 

837
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:29,800
But that is that that's 
definitely something to keep in 

838
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,500
mind. 
Yeah, I completely agree. 

839
00:43:32,500 --> 00:43:34,800
And by the way, I'm not touching
Camaro right now. 

840
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:40,100
Zero percent for me. 
Yeah, he could be For the whole 

841
00:43:40,100 --> 00:43:41,300
season. 
For sure, I think that's in 

842
00:43:41,300 --> 00:43:42,500
play. 
I mean, I don't think that's the

843
00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:45,200
most likely outcome, but I would
say, six games is the most 

844
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:47,400
likely outcome. 
I put anything lower than that 

845
00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:51,700
is very unlikely and then all 
your uncertainty risk is sort of

846
00:43:51,700 --> 00:43:53,800
and he might be a might be 
cooked anyway. 

847
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,700
Kumar might just come on, Mikey 
cook tomorrow. 

848
00:43:55,700 --> 00:43:58,500
Might be dust anyway like taysom
Hill. 

849
00:43:58,500 --> 00:44:01,100
Those last two seasons being 
like a Workhorse of Russia and 

850
00:44:01,100 --> 00:44:03,900
it seems to have not worked out 
particularly well for his legs. 

851
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,500
Although that feels, that feels 
more like a tactical error than 

852
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:08,300
anything that would have been 
his fault. 

853
00:44:08,300 --> 00:44:12,700
So it's a Tactical error because
like one, it wasn't all that 

854
00:44:12,700 --> 00:44:14,700
effective because that's not 
really what he does into it. 

855
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:16,400
I think it may have burned him 
out. 

856
00:44:17,500 --> 00:44:21,700
Also these are camara's snaps 
down the stretch which are these

857
00:44:21,700 --> 00:44:25,300
percentages aren't bad for like 
a normal running back but in the

858
00:44:25,308 --> 00:44:27,900
context of what Camaros 
competition was last year. 

859
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:30,600
They're pretty bad week. 
Thirteen fifty nine percent of 

860
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,800
snaps week, 15 62% of snaps week
sixteen, seventy percent than 

861
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,700
week 17 back down to 58 percent.
He was losing those snaps to 

862
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,300
David Johnson and Mark Ingram 
like that. 

863
00:44:42,300 --> 00:44:45,100
I don't know that. 
I think I'm gonna ask you not 

864
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,000
hurt, right. 
Am I misremembering? 

865
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,600
Didn't didn't he get hurt? 
I don't know what. 

866
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,700
Because was the Chimera he 
missed a couple games. 

867
00:44:53,700 --> 00:44:56,500
Like he got he got injured in 
the middle of this season. 

868
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,700
Uh I'm not seeing he missed week
two and week 4. 

869
00:45:00,900 --> 00:45:05,300
But then anyways like you look 
at his snap shares like in the 

870
00:45:05,308 --> 00:45:08,800
middle ear then towards the end 
it did seem like the saints were

871
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:13,000
like reducing his workload which
was weird because we're 

872
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,400
basically your speed, he 
probably was just like 

873
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,700
exhausted. 
Like I mean we've Tony Pollard 

874
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:22,100
is ripping off like 37-yard 
gains and then tapping out for 

875
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:25,500
Malik Davis because the Cowboys 
running back coach wanted him to

876
00:45:25,500 --> 00:45:28,600
do that. 
Like that they just I don't 

877
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:31,700
know, I guess less one is like 
if you, you know, if you went on

878
00:45:31,700 --> 00:45:34,100
Camaro and he doesn't get 
suspended, you're probably just 

879
00:45:34,100 --> 00:45:37,400
getting a committee back on the 
Saints whose what? 

880
00:45:37,500 --> 00:45:39,900
29 years old now and has been 
worn down the past. 

881
00:45:39,900 --> 00:45:43,300
Couple years lace who plays the 
Buccaneers and week 17, though 

882
00:45:43,700 --> 00:45:46,600
who has taysom Hill stealing all
of his touchdowns the goal line.

883
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:50,800
I mean, I'm all I know all I 
know is I just got a vision of 

884
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,600
Justin Herzig being the only one
in the final with Alvin Kamara 

885
00:45:54,600 --> 00:46:02,800
again. 
Again, I don't know man, like 

886
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:08,100
I'm not taking him but if I know
he got a three-game suspension 

887
00:46:09,100 --> 00:46:12,200
I'm gonna be like I'm so stupid.
I just spent I just spent an 

888
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:16,700
offseason taking AJ Dillon and 
Antonio Gibson and Alvin I could

889
00:46:16,700 --> 00:46:20,200
have had 30% album, Kamara for 
13 games, like I'm a moron. 

890
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,300
Yeah, I kind of get it but I 
just, I don't know. 

891
00:46:25,500 --> 00:46:29,400
It's been two years of Camaro. 
Like kinda being bad. 

892
00:46:30,100 --> 00:46:32,100
Yeah. 
And I just think the odds of him

893
00:46:32,100 --> 00:46:36,100
getting a three-game suspension 
or very low like he punched a 

894
00:46:36,100 --> 00:46:37,200
dude. 
Yeah. 

895
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:38,800
Yeah. 
Video of it. 

896
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:41,600
We have a video after where he 
talks about making a good 

897
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,700
connection. 
That doesn't mean like I don't 

898
00:46:43,700 --> 00:46:45,900
think the legally that makes all
that much of a difference but 

899
00:46:45,900 --> 00:46:49,200
like Goodell is going to have 
seen that like it's not good. 

900
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,000
Yeah. 
Back to make some quickly what's

901
00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:57,500
like okay, say we get I think 
like pricing in the his odds of 

902
00:46:57,500 --> 00:47:00,800
suspension is like incredibly 
ambiguous and tough to do. 

903
00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:04,400
Maybe a little bit easier is 
like, figuring out what the win 

904
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,600
is if we get the news that he's 
not going to be suspended like 

905
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,500
what is his ADP? 
If we get the news tomorrow that

906
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:13,100
you know, these charges were 
made up all my blog. 

907
00:47:13,100 --> 00:47:17,100
Addison Madison range, no 
higher, I thought You just said,

908
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:22,100
come talking mixing, Nicole? 
That was me. 

909
00:47:22,100 --> 00:47:26,300
That was me. 
My fault mix and goes back to 

910
00:47:26,300 --> 00:47:29,000
where he was being dropped. 
Last year, 2, 3, 2, 3 turn. 

911
00:47:29,900 --> 00:47:33,300
I don't think he'd be that high.
I would say, three, four turn 

912
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:35,600
like a head of nausea, but 
behind briefs. 

913
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:39,400
Yeah, I think I think the 
decision is him or etn. 

914
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:44,800
Yeah, those are simple like 
that's a similar thing where 

915
00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,800
you're like, I'm not sure the 
like I want to bet on the 

916
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,100
offense I'm not sure that he's 
going to have every touch. 

917
00:47:51,100 --> 00:47:53,500
He certainly could get every 
touch if they committed to them 

918
00:47:53,500 --> 00:47:55,400
but I'm not sure if they're 
going to commit to him writes 

919
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,500
like a very similar decision 
with he Tian. 

920
00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:02,000
I think I'd if I knew that he 
didn't have any suspension risk,

921
00:48:02,300 --> 00:48:04,600
I think I would be taking him 
over etn. 

922
00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:07,900
I would not be taking over 
Breeze from Andre Josh Jacobs. 

923
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:10,800
Yeah. 
Derrick Henry like That would be

924
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,100
very difficult for me to do. 
I think so. 

925
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,000
It's a weird thing because I 
actually could, you could talk 

926
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:20,600
me into, like, maybe taking him 
over Jacobs hasn't signed yet or

927
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,900
Henry, who's 29. 
But those guys go earlier, free 

928
00:48:24,900 --> 00:48:27,700
syndrome, Andre or the to our. 
Yeah, big big Henry, big hands 

929
00:48:28,300 --> 00:48:31,000
big Henry. 
We're letting we're letting the 

930
00:48:31,008 --> 00:48:34,300
people know that he plays these 
Texans and week 15 the week 17. 

931
00:48:35,300 --> 00:48:39,200
Yeah, okay, so I guess it is 
like a win with Nixon but it's 

932
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,600
not like this massive, it's no 
longer this massive ATP, when 

933
00:48:42,600 --> 00:48:43,700
right? 
Like you're getting maybe a 

934
00:48:43,700 --> 00:48:45,800
round and a half. 
Discount, which is certainly big

935
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,800
like round 32 round 5. 
Like I'm not saying that's 

936
00:48:48,900 --> 00:48:52,600
nothing, but it's not like when 
I was getting a bit like 70 or 

937
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,200
80. 
It was like whoa I mean in this 

938
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:57,600
steel the pick. 
Now I'm kind of like this is 

939
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,200
probably about right given the 
ambiguous risk. 

940
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,800
Yeah and what I do what I do 
like about take I took them on a

941
00:49:03,808 --> 00:49:08,600
team the other day and I'm going
to be underweight mixing almost 

942
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,100
certainly. 
But you know I've mixed them in 

943
00:49:11,100 --> 00:49:13,200
and I had that period where I 
was hammering him at least but 

944
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:19,200
You still can build around him, 
like he's a kind of a hero 

945
00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:22,300
running back type, A guy like in
a way where I don't really feel 

946
00:49:22,300 --> 00:49:26,100
comfortable doing that was like 
Aaron Jones or you know, Madison

947
00:49:26,100 --> 00:49:28,500
or mile Sanders or whatever like
or Dobbins. 

948
00:49:28,500 --> 00:49:32,000
You know, any of those guys I 
don't want to build like this is

949
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,900
my week in week out, starter 
running back but I think it with

950
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:38,700
mixing because there is still a 
suspension risk, you can do 

951
00:49:38,700 --> 00:49:40,700
that. 
You know, I probably build 

952
00:49:40,700 --> 00:49:45,000
around them pretty similarly to 
like a Ramon Dre or or a Jacobs 

953
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,900
or a breeze. 
Even though I like those guys 

954
00:49:46,900 --> 00:49:52,400
better braces, maybe not not a 
good example since he might not 

955
00:49:52,400 --> 00:49:55,300
start the season but yeah. 
Like a reminder your Jacobs like

956
00:49:55,900 --> 00:50:01,000
I probably build a similar team 
and you get a Decent discount to

957
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:03,200
make that build like the to V2, 
you're getting on. 

958
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,000
One of those guys is pretty 
nice. 

959
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:09,000
Like Amari Cooper instead of 
Chris Godwin or something like 

960
00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,800
yeah, t by 2. 
So, yeah, it's a decent. 

961
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,200
It still presents an 
opportunity. 

962
00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,800
Yeah, exactly, yeah, it does. 
Okay, let's move on to the 

963
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,400
fallers. 
Here. 

964
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,400
So now, looking at the largest 
followers from the past week, 

965
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,100
June 5th of June 12th, a lot of 
repeat followers on this list 

966
00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:30,300
and the first was obvious thing 
that's going to stand out to 

967
00:50:30,308 --> 00:50:33,000
everyone. 
We have all our four of the top 

968
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:34,900
five. 
Quarterbacks are on this list. 

969
00:50:34,900 --> 00:50:37,700
Justin Fields is down. 
Jalen Hertz is downpatrick, 

970
00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:39,800
Mahomes is down, Josh Allen is 
down. 

971
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,200
So I think the question is now 
like maybe let's focus on like 

972
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,500
Mahomes Allen and hurts and put 
Fields aside like are these guys

973
00:50:49,500 --> 00:50:51,300
like on track? 
After ball in the second round 

974
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:55,500
now because you RI put it, we're
getting them the third round or 

975
00:50:55,500 --> 00:50:59,000
when I push it every time and if
it means that I don't get them 

976
00:50:59,100 --> 00:51:01,800
like that's fine. 
What ends up happening is I have

977
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,600
a lot of weird teams where it's 
like, okay, I take Kelsey, I 

978
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,500
take Devon to Smith or whoever 
just the second round, pick 

979
00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:12,600
doesn't matter then the 
quarterback I need Allen Kurtz 

980
00:51:13,300 --> 00:51:14,800
homes. 
They go. 

981
00:51:15,100 --> 00:51:17,800
And then I take Lamar a lot of 
the time so I have these weird 

982
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:21,100
teams where it's like, elite 
elite four At the elite, wide 

983
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:24,400
receiver Elite side and Elite 
running back then you know, 

984
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:29,700
naked Lamar backdoor it with 
Bateman or whomever where which 

985
00:51:29,700 --> 00:51:32,000
is like. 
I mean obviously I would like it

986
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,800
better to have it with the 
quarterback that I prefer but I 

987
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,000
also sort of like that idea of 
like that's a weird combo. 

988
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,300
Most people are probably not 
doing Kelsey. 

989
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,800
Say Quan Berkeley you miss on 
Mahomes you try it you try and 

990
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,400
you try and press it, you miss 
on the homes. 

991
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,800
But instead you just take Lamar 
like that's a that gives you 

992
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:53,300
like a weird sort of Leverage in
like what if Kelsey has 21 

993
00:51:53,300 --> 00:51:56,900
points, which is what, you know,
probably Far and Away the most 

994
00:51:56,900 --> 00:51:59,500
points that someone scores and 
week 17 at tight end, but 

995
00:51:59,500 --> 00:52:03,000
Mahomes just has like, 20 for, 
you know, just a 303, like a 

996
00:52:03,008 --> 00:52:07,000
normal good game, you know, 
they're probably lots of paths 

997
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:15,300
to non-muslims team's winning. 
Yeah, I think the fall does feel

998
00:52:15,300 --> 00:52:18,900
like something where the rest of
the quarterback prices really do

999
00:52:18,900 --> 00:52:20,600
matter. 
To try to figure out how to 

1000
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:24,000
attack it. 
We're like on DraftKings. 

1001
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,300
I'm still a little bit more 
willing to take the second round

1002
00:52:26,300 --> 00:52:31,700
quarterback because I'm feel, 
you know, I'm going to get I 

1003
00:52:31,707 --> 00:52:34,700
mean you're still getting that 
third round running back that it

1004
00:52:34,700 --> 00:52:36,600
also feels like an unusual 
price. 

1005
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,300
I really like Mark Andrews in 
the third round. 

1006
00:52:40,200 --> 00:52:43,700
So like I kind of still if you 
even if I take a second round 

1007
00:52:43,700 --> 00:52:48,300
quarterback on DraftKings I 
still end up liking my first 

1008
00:52:48,300 --> 00:52:51,100
three picks and feeling like 
these are you know three guys 

1009
00:52:51,100 --> 00:52:53,400
that are going to be like no one
else is going to have these 

1010
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:58,900
three guys plus like a really 
good second rounder you know and

1011
00:52:58,900 --> 00:53:01,100
quarterback on drafting is 
trickier. 

1012
00:53:01,400 --> 00:53:03,800
You know sometimes you'll just 
there's more Auto drafters. 

1013
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:07,800
You'll see I take quarterbacks 
at ADP or ahead of ATP on 

1014
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:11,800
DraftKings because I just I I 
hate the idea of dropping on her

1015
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:16,100
and 50 teams there but going 
into the season with like sick, 

1016
00:53:16,100 --> 00:53:19,300
dude, you have a bunch of Daniel
Jones and Derek Carr past acts. 

1017
00:53:19,300 --> 00:53:21,000
Like it's just I just hate that 
idea. 

1018
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:24,800
So you gotta it's but it makes 
up for you. 

1019
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,400
You get made up for that on 
DraftKings by bunch of the skill

1020
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:29,600
position players. 
Exactly. 

1021
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,800
And you can get jsn later, you 
can get Johnson like all the 

1022
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:34,500
anyways, cheaper there. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1023
00:53:34,500 --> 00:53:37,900
So you just you pay your little 
premium on DraftKings to like 

1024
00:53:37,900 --> 00:53:41,100
make sure that you have All 
portfolio teams you're going to 

1025
00:53:41,100 --> 00:53:43,600
like so you pay that premium a 
little bit of quarterback and 

1026
00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:47,200
then you get to bask in the 
glory of all this value that 

1027
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,000
sweeps over you at wide receiver
and running back and stuff. 

1028
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:53,500
So that's if I'm going to still 
drop the second round of 

1029
00:53:53,500 --> 00:53:55,800
quarterbacks right now. 
It's really primarily on 

1030
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:59,300
DraftKings. 
I think the fact that Fields is 

1031
00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:03,000
falling like I sometimes. 
See, I wrote an article as 

1032
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,100
saying it's really nice right 
now, how you can do, the you can

1033
00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:08,600
do the DJ more at the end of the
fourth and then try to get 

1034
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:09,800
fields to come back in the 
fifth. 

1035
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:12,200
If you know and then if you 
don't get that, maybe you can 

1036
00:54:12,200 --> 00:54:14,300
get Cristian Kirk in the early 
5th and do the same thing again,

1037
00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:17,200
with Trevor Lawrence in the 
sixth round. 

1038
00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:21,600
But I've seen, like, I took DJ 
more in the fifth round on 

1039
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,000
Underdog and Fields was also 
there like something like, 

1040
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:28,700
people just passed on that whole
thing entirely with Fields 

1041
00:54:28,700 --> 00:54:32,200
falling into the fifth. 
Sometimes it does make. 

1042
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:34,500
It's like, dude, if I think it 
fits around Fields, like I 

1043
00:54:34,500 --> 00:54:37,200
might, am I taking second round,
Josh Allen or second round jail 

1044
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:40,900
and hurts it just way less 
appealing and Richardson is also

1045
00:54:40,900 --> 00:54:44,200
falling. 
I see him in the ninth round a 

1046
00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:47,500
decent amount now. 
It's like, I don't know, I mean 

1047
00:54:48,500 --> 00:54:51,400
I want to get the upside of 
quarterback but pay as little as

1048
00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:56,700
possible and you're getting the 
upside cheaper across the board.

1049
00:54:56,900 --> 00:54:59,400
So, it was just this pocket 
falling. 

1050
00:55:00,100 --> 00:55:02,800
I might be like, inclined to 
hammer them at the cheapest 

1051
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,400
price we've gotten so far but 
because everybody seems to be 

1052
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,300
following. 
I'm kind of pushing pushing it 

1053
00:55:08,300 --> 00:55:09,800
further and seeing if I can get 
like me. 

1054
00:55:09,900 --> 00:55:12,500
Mid third, which I usually 
don't, but I'm but I'm trying. 

1055
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,100
So I've been getting the past 
couple days. 

1056
00:55:15,100 --> 00:55:20,100
I've been getting a lot of like,
pick 30, Josh Allen pick 30, 

1057
00:55:20,100 --> 00:55:24,600
Jalen hurts, even on teams where
I don't have the pass catchers 

1058
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,500
on those teams. 
I'm totally fine, grabbing the 

1059
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:30,200
naked Allen, and her sister, 
because it's just like micro 

1060
00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:34,400
take for me, where I thought 
that in the late s, it's really 

1061
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:39,100
tough to click hurts, or Allen 
over briefs over, am Andre over 

1062
00:55:39,100 --> 00:55:41,300
Derrick Henry. 
If you like the wide receivers 

1063
00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:42,700
you can throw them in there as 
well. 

1064
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,500
Then once those guys are gone 
and you're staring at pick 30 of

1065
00:55:45,500 --> 00:55:50,100
like naked, Jalen hurts first 
Calvin Ridley, like that's a 

1066
00:55:50,100 --> 00:55:52,900
hammer hurts for me. 
And I'm not even like, maybe I'm

1067
00:55:52,900 --> 00:55:54,700
different from most people here 
but I'm even fine. 

1068
00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:57,900
If I don't get Goddard like, 
I'll certainly Beach like a half

1069
00:55:57,900 --> 00:55:59,900
round to get caught her and 
would like to get him there. 

1070
00:55:59,900 --> 00:56:03,000
If I have a naked hurts but 
like, man, I think make it hurts

1071
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:05,400
that. 
Pick the move, the move with 

1072
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:09,800
make it hurts is 2 Giga stack. 
Another game, you know Broncos. 

1073
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:14,100
Charges call, Traders whatever. 
And then you have Jalen Hurd 

1074
00:56:14,100 --> 00:56:18,000
score, three rushing touchdowns 
and week 17 and AJ Brown divide.

1075
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:21,100
This myth, Goddard, none of 
those dudes get fed at all. 

1076
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:26,100
And you have the 34 ball from 
jail and hurts but the Jalen 

1077
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:29,200
Hurd Stacks that get there to 
the final are carrying, you 

1078
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,900
know, first round AJ, Brown 11 
points or whatever. 

1079
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:35,200
That's, that's the move. 
If you get the hurts past ADP 

1080
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,200
team I think Seattle's a nice 
because you can go get lock it 

1081
00:56:38,700 --> 00:56:41,700
and You can't really get lock it
in Jason. 

1082
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:46,600
All that reliably but you can 
identical and like 30% of the 

1083
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:47,800
time it. 
Yeah. 

1084
00:56:48,100 --> 00:56:49,400
Do it. 
Yeah. 

1085
00:56:49,700 --> 00:56:52,700
And the Josh Allen naked is even
is even better because there's 

1086
00:56:52,700 --> 00:56:56,100
so many like the wide receiver 
three there, the the markets 

1087
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:57,900
kind of throwing up their hands 
and saying we don't know if it's

1088
00:56:57,900 --> 00:57:02,000
going to be Hardy or Shakir, you
know Kincaid, I don't love his 

1089
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:06,000
price but in a stack it's like a
pretty cheap piece to get on 

1090
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,200
fine with Kincaid. 
If you have it stacked with Alan

1091
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,900
like you can find guys pretty 
cheap and buffalo. 

1092
00:57:11,900 --> 00:57:15,100
Now Which I think shows up like 
we've showed this chart a bunch,

1093
00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:18,100
but this like Mega stack chart 
for Buffalo. 

1094
00:57:18,100 --> 00:57:21,700
Like they're not even in the top
10 or maybe like there, right at

1095
00:57:21,700 --> 00:57:23,300
10. 
In terms of most expensive 

1096
00:57:23,300 --> 00:57:27,200
offenses, like the market is not
really pricing up these Buffalo 

1097
00:57:27,500 --> 00:57:31,000
second, they're trying to the 
Kincaid, Slappy's are really 

1098
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,800
trying. 
They're trying to but will do 

1099
00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,000
pretty cheap but shakir's 
Falling. 

1100
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:37,100
I see secure just sitting there 
past ATP. 

1101
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:40,400
A lot of times you can you might
get Shakira and Hearty round 18 

1102
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:42,200
pretty reliably. 
That's what I've been doing and 

1103
00:57:42,200 --> 00:57:45,800
how Doing both secure and Hardy 
1718 rival and I say fuck it. 

1104
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:48,700
Like one of these guys is going 
to probably be a bus but like 

1105
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:52,200
maybe even not like Alan or 
sorry Gabe Davis or digs gets 

1106
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,800
hurt. 
And suddenly both those guys are

1107
00:57:53,800 --> 00:57:56,200
relevant, right? 
So one DraftKings, I've done 

1108
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,000
that without Alan. 
I've taken Shakir and Hardy 

1109
00:57:59,000 --> 00:58:03,600
because I'm like, last year we 
had, you know, oh, I Jameson 

1110
00:58:03,600 --> 00:58:06,700
Crowder's the guy, you know, 
he's going to he's going like, 

1111
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:10,500
what in the 12th or 13th round 
and then Mackenzie was free and 

1112
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:13,600
then it flipped and then 
Mackenzie was like in the 12th 

1113
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:18,400
round and Crowder was free but 
like this year both guys are 

1114
00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,900
free. 
Those are the wide receiver 

1115
00:58:20,900 --> 00:58:22,800
three and four on the bills, 
right? 

1116
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:27,000
Like I'm not I'm not missing 
anybody so I guess the guy I'm 

1117
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,400
missing right? 
Is Dalton Kincaid but I, so I 

1118
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:33,900
get to bet against the rookie 
tight end with two wide 

1119
00:58:33,900 --> 00:58:36,100
receivers, one of whom is really
really fast. 

1120
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:37,600
What are the slop? 
He's going to. 

1121
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,500
He's going to tap out on 
Kincaid. 

1122
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:44,300
I don't know that they are ya 
like I mean, I was the Slappy 

1123
00:58:44,300 --> 00:58:47,900
last year with Alberto right eye
and I wasn't letting it go and 

1124
00:58:47,900 --> 00:58:50,200
then eventually I did. 
I stop taking him. 

1125
00:58:50,900 --> 00:58:53,900
He, I think the lowest he got 
was like Titan 15, but then 

1126
00:58:53,900 --> 00:58:57,100
there was the false false flag 
where Alberto ended up getting 

1127
00:58:57,100 --> 00:59:00,000
more expensive, right? 
At the end again after after 

1128
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:02,000
they said dosage was going to be
on the IR. 

1129
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,400
He ended up. 
Alright last like two weeks he 

1130
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,600
ended up getting expensive again
unbelievable. 

1131
00:59:07,700 --> 00:59:10,500
Yeah it's the Kincaid stuff so I
don't love this price in a 

1132
00:59:10,500 --> 00:59:12,700
vacuum. 
The reason like I'm maybe not it

1133
00:59:12,700 --> 00:59:16,200
as down on him as you guys and I
would take him like an allen 

1134
00:59:16,200 --> 00:59:19,800
Stacks pretty. 
Pretty happily is that like the 

1135
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,800
bills over the past couple 
years, have just thrown so many 

1136
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:28,800
times and ran so many plays that
I think a 55, 60 percent route 

1137
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:33,000
participation tight end on the 
bills is equivalent to like a 

1138
00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:35,600
90% participation tied down on 
the Panthers, right? 

1139
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,800
Like it's not sure that once 
once you do the math, there like

1140
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,100
it's probably not as bad as it 
looks. 

1141
00:59:42,100 --> 00:59:45,000
And like, I think, Is upside 
just because I am not a Gabe. 

1142
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:47,400
Davis Talent believer. 
Like, put me on the record and 

1143
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,500
for that and like, besides digs,
like I kind of see the upside 

1144
00:59:51,500 --> 00:59:54,800
but yeah, I'm not taking him on 
stacked like I'm easily just 

1145
00:59:55,100 --> 00:59:58,600
taking a running back there. 
I take I take Kincaid with Josh 

1146
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:00,800
Alan, I'm man enough. 
I'm man enough to admit it. 

1147
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:02,800
If I have a Josh Allen team I'll
take him. 

1148
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,900
I don't really take him. 
I'm sure I have it but I just I 

1149
01:00:05,908 --> 01:00:08,000
don't really I don't look to do 
it, really. 

1150
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:10,900
I'm just like to me. 
Knox is the starting tight in 

1151
01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:12,500
there. 
You can get him really late. 

1152
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:15,000
Eight. 
And I would, I would just love 

1153
01:00:15,100 --> 01:00:19,000
the, you know, winning a million
dollars with Joshua Allen belt 

1154
01:00:19,000 --> 01:00:21,400
and Kincaid and then the haters 
just pull bunch of clips of me 

1155
01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:23,900
saying called Kincaid is the 
worst ATP and fantasy football, 

1156
01:00:23,900 --> 01:00:26,300
history. 
I would be needed. 

1157
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:29,100
Then he just send the screenshot
of a million dollars. 

1158
01:00:29,100 --> 01:00:34,700
Yeah, I've been hearing this to 
you like Buffalo Hunter Renfro, 

1159
01:00:35,700 --> 01:00:38,600
DeAndre Hopkins, they just 
signed, and this is where my 

1160
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:40,600
lack of defensive knowledge 
hurts me but they'd assign 

1161
01:00:40,600 --> 01:00:44,100
someone to a big deal on Fence 
that I'm blanking on that one. 

1162
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:49,300
Their cap space is like they 
surely extended out at Oliver 

1163
01:00:49,700 --> 01:00:50,700
and Oliver right. 
Thanks. 

1164
01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:53,800
So they can restructure and I'm 
sure they could fit in like a 

1165
01:00:53,808 --> 01:00:56,700
Renfro or Hopkins with those got
like renfro's contracts 

1166
01:00:56,700 --> 01:00:58,300
expensive. 
Hopkins is asking for a lot of 

1167
01:00:58,308 --> 01:01:01,200
money like it's no longer 
trivial for them to add those 

1168
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:03,600
guys. 
So I do get, you can lose on the

1169
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:07,000
Hardy and Shakira bats by them, 
making a trade for a veteran. 

1170
01:01:07,100 --> 01:01:11,200
Sure, but I would not say that's
the most likely outcome at this 

1171
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:14,000
point. 
I do think some run 40 because 

1172
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:17,300
there's lots of rumors that he's
going to get traded. 

1173
01:01:18,100 --> 01:01:22,100
This is like a hilarious. 
This is like I don't know if 

1174
01:01:22,100 --> 01:01:25,800
this is information or not 
probably not but the Raiders Pro

1175
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,600
Shop was offering a discount on 
Hunter renfroe jerseys. 

1176
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:32,600
This is like the Dalvin cook 
removed from there. 

1177
01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:37,100
Was there was a report there was
a report last week from the 

1178
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:39,100
athletic that there's been no 
chatter. 

1179
01:01:39,100 --> 01:01:42,000
There's been no movement on a 
Renfro trade, the no movement, 

1180
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,100
but I don't think there's not 
the Raiders seemed open to it. 

1181
01:01:45,600 --> 01:01:47,800
There hasn't been any movement, 
you know, on a trade. 

1182
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,700
I mean it doesn't seem like a 
really bad schematic fit. 

1183
01:01:50,700 --> 01:01:54,900
Having Renfro Jacoby Myers and 
Michael Mayer all running routes

1184
01:01:54,900 --> 01:01:58,300
together and and Davante Adams, 
who historically the turnaround 

1185
01:01:58,300 --> 01:02:00,300
side of the slot. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1186
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:04,700
Off the scale. 
Yeah, they build the whole 

1187
01:02:04,700 --> 01:02:06,700
offense out of the trips Bunch. 
Right? 

1188
01:02:06,700 --> 01:02:09,600
So it's just it's just Adams is 
in the front. 

1189
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:12,200
Myers is right there, a right 
there, they're all standing in a

1190
01:02:12,200 --> 01:02:15,900
little triangle on the right 
side, Michael Mayer on the other

1191
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:18,100
side, Jacobs in the backfield. 
That's every play. 

1192
01:02:18,500 --> 01:02:21,600
The entire like, last 10 years 
of football has been like, 

1193
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,200
taking advantage of horizontal 
space on the field and Josh, 

1194
01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:28,100
McDaniels is just gonna have 
everyone lined up right next to 

1195
01:02:28,100 --> 01:02:31,000
each other. 
Like a, like a giant Bo set 

1196
01:02:32,700 --> 01:02:33,800
Joshua, Daniel. 
Yeah. 

1197
01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:37,600
And Josh, McDaniels that hires 
looking at hires looking really 

1198
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,300
good right now. 
I'm sorry, guys. 

1199
01:02:40,300 --> 01:02:42,300
There was no evidence of that. 
This could happen that he would 

1200
01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:43,700
just come in and tank a 
franchise. 

1201
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:45,600
No there, that never happened 
before. 

1202
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,100
And also, I mean, you look at 
the the Belichick coaching tree 

1203
01:02:49,100 --> 01:02:52,000
and all those guys have been 
huge successes, so yeah. 

1204
01:02:55,700 --> 01:02:58,600
Pretty good. 
Aren't other guys. 

1205
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:00,300
I want to call. 
I do think what's interesting 

1206
01:03:00,300 --> 01:03:03,000
here. 
Moving on from the quarterbacks 

1207
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:06,800
is both Bijan and Taylor falling
and now that's not. 

1208
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,900
This isn't huge like raw ADP 
Falls, they obviously show up in

1209
01:03:09,908 --> 01:03:13,800
this chart because when you're 
going at Pick 10, a one drop, 

1210
01:03:14,200 --> 01:03:16,900
one spot dropping. 
ATP is, is huge on a percentage 

1211
01:03:16,900 --> 01:03:21,700
basis but I don't get this. 
Why is he falling? 

1212
01:03:22,300 --> 01:03:25,200
I think it's just wide like so 
you go back to the risers chart 

1213
01:03:25,900 --> 01:03:29,300
You see, Devon te Smith and 
Garrett Wilson both showing up 

1214
01:03:29,300 --> 01:03:33,100
here and if this chart extended 
further AJ Brown, some of these 

1215
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:35,300
other wide receivers are going 
up slightly to. 

1216
01:03:35,300 --> 01:03:38,200
So I think it's just like the 
continued wide receiver thirst 

1217
01:03:38,200 --> 01:03:42,000
is continuing to punish I fear 
the my theories it secular. 

1218
01:03:43,000 --> 01:03:45,100
I think there's only so many 
guys in the first round and a 

1219
01:03:45,107 --> 01:03:46,700
given draft who want to take a 
running back. 

1220
01:03:47,100 --> 01:03:50,300
Yeah, and now they're taking a 
cooler and so then you get the, 

1221
01:03:50,500 --> 01:03:52,800
you know, just odds are based on
his draft right now. 

1222
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,900
It's like, I don't want to start
my draft of the and then 

1223
01:03:55,900 --> 01:03:58,300
actually guys are I think that 
actually kind of makes sense 

1224
01:03:58,300 --> 01:04:01,500
like Eckler probably scores more
fantasy points and Bijan. 

1225
01:04:01,700 --> 01:04:03,500
So like seems fine. 
Maybe, yeah. 

1226
01:04:04,100 --> 01:04:09,800
Yeah, I also say that like 
McCaffrey is down, he would be 

1227
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:12,600
like extra 14th on this chart, 
but he's tall. 

1228
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,300
Is down a spot. 
Tony Pollard is down a spot. 

1229
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,900
I don't think it's entirely 
explained by Eckler. 

1230
01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:20,700
I don't see a clear on my list 
here, he might be up slightly, 

1231
01:04:20,700 --> 01:04:25,200
but I would say, stop from, he's
up from like three weeks ago, 

1232
01:04:25,300 --> 01:04:27,900
right? 
He's kind of regained, his 108 

1233
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:31,500
type of Ecuador's. 
Only up point two spots this 

1234
01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,900
week and like a ton of these 
early running backs are down 

1235
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:37,700
like a full spot so I don't, you
think is another reason for this

1236
01:04:37,700 --> 01:04:40,000
then, right? 
Because the p when I'm in the 

1237
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:44,100
puppy I do think twice about 
Taking the Caffrey, whereas in 

1238
01:04:44,100 --> 01:04:46,800
best Ball Mania? 
I just I take them, I don't 

1239
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,100
really like why do you think 
twice about taking him in the 

1240
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:50,800
puppy? 
Because I know all these sickos 

1241
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:51,900
are going to take all the 
receivers. 

1242
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:54,100
I'm looking at like, sometimes 
in the second round, I'm like, 

1243
01:04:54,100 --> 01:04:59,100
like, I've started in the puppy 
McCaffrey, you know, Pollard 

1244
01:04:59,100 --> 01:05:01,200
briefs. 
So, fair amount like that, the 

1245
01:05:01,200 --> 01:05:04,000
that type of, which, hey, that I
think that's a pretty good 

1246
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:07,000
start. 
But like, God immediately, the 

1247
01:05:07,000 --> 01:05:09,500
rest of my draft is just like. 
All right, I'm just chasing 

1248
01:05:09,500 --> 01:05:12,700
receiver, I'm I reach for guys 
that I like, because I'm like, 

1249
01:05:12,707 --> 01:05:18,200
Like I don't I'm like less 
willing to trust the market when

1250
01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:20,200
I'm like do you know for 
receiver points? 

1251
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:22,600
Do you know why? 
This is a is not even a big deal

1252
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,100
dude because then on those teams
you just take an elite 

1253
01:05:26,100 --> 01:05:27,500
quarterback. 
You take an allen. 

1254
01:05:27,500 --> 01:05:30,600
You take Mahomes, you take take 
one of these guys. 

1255
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:33,100
You can AR get are more homes. 
I've taken three running backs 

1256
01:05:33,100 --> 01:05:35,500
to start. 
Oh, I just mean when you take, I

1257
01:05:35,508 --> 01:05:38,200
just mean when you take CMC, 
okay? 

1258
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:41,100
And then and then you can fill 
out your wide receiver numbers 

1259
01:05:41,100 --> 01:05:45,000
with guys who correlate, right? 
Yeah, you get my home's, you get

1260
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,200
my homes and you take Boyd sky 
and rice. 

1261
01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:52,600
So you get three correlated 
pieces and, and your and I think

1262
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:54,700
also another thing is to 
consciously make those eight 

1263
01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:57,000
wide receiver teams. 
Maybe, you know that due to 

1264
01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:59,400
quarterback too tight and I 
really like that David that 

1265
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:02,900
strategic bad of like it. 
So in I am like generally doing 

1266
01:06:02,900 --> 01:06:06,700
the four wide receivers through 
through seven or eight rule but 

1267
01:06:06,700 --> 01:06:10,900
the the rare times where like 
say maybe I do fight for our 

1268
01:06:10,900 --> 01:06:14,800
receivers to date but it's all 
like Rounds 538 or rounds, four,

1269
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:17,200
through seven, or whatever. 
And those builds I'm very 

1270
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:21,000
consciously going, okay? 
I'm now going to bet on one team

1271
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,900
where their pass catchers are 
all going late and I'm just 

1272
01:06:23,900 --> 01:06:26,200
going to grab all those guys. 
I'm going to bet on the Panthers

1273
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,500
and I'm going to go DJ Chark 
Mingo. 

1274
01:06:29,700 --> 01:06:31,700
Stack it up with Bryce young? 
And then I say okay if the 

1275
01:06:31,700 --> 01:06:35,700
Panthers are just like the 19th 
best offense in that NFL this 

1276
01:06:35,700 --> 01:06:38,700
year than these water severs Are
Gonna Save Me. 

1277
01:06:38,700 --> 01:06:44,000
So I do really like like Patriot
like your Texans, Giant. 

1278
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,000
Yeah, lots of ways you can do it
and obviously, you would not 

1279
01:06:47,000 --> 01:06:52,600
want to drop 150 teams that way,
but I don't, I do not want to go

1280
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,500
into the season being like, 
hell. 

1281
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:57,900
Yeah, dude, I got to Christian 
McCaffrey teams in baseball 

1282
01:06:57,900 --> 01:07:00,600
Mania, you know? 
Because yeah, because I was too 

1283
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:02,400
afraid of getting buried by the 
Avalanche. 

1284
01:07:02,400 --> 01:07:04,000
Yeah, no. 
And I'm less afraid of the 

1285
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,100
Avalanche investable Mania right
now because a lot of the 

1286
01:07:06,100 --> 01:07:08,800
Avalanche drafters are over in 
the puppy and I think that'll be

1287
01:07:08,800 --> 01:07:10,900
even more true as the puppy gets
closer to fill. 

1288
01:07:10,900 --> 01:07:12,700
Might want to get your puppy's. 
What are your guys thoughts on? 

1289
01:07:12,700 --> 01:07:15,800
On this, I just take who's ever 
at the top of the queue in round

1290
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:17,400
one. 
I don't I don't basically do 

1291
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:20,600
that too II don't do. 
Now last year was the exact 

1292
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,600
opposite where I took huge 
stands in round one, I took 

1293
01:07:23,600 --> 01:07:28,900
McCaffrey every time he was 
available when I was there and I

1294
01:07:28,900 --> 01:07:32,000
took Kelsey, it's onto I took 
Kelsey ahead of ATP. 

1295
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:36,400
A lot this year, I just think, I
think around the world. 

1296
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:39,000
I think the round 1 ATP is just 
right. 

1297
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:41,200
Like, I think, I think it's 
just, I think it's pretty 

1298
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:42,600
correct. 
Yes. 

1299
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,000
Like them. 
I've some very micro stands that

1300
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:47,100
like, I don't even know what 
we're talking. 

1301
01:07:47,100 --> 01:07:50,200
Like, I'm taking AJ Brown over 
digs. 

1302
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:51,000
Oh, I do that. 
I do. 

1303
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:55,000
That's just like age age model. 
Like I think there's hidden 

1304
01:07:55,000 --> 01:07:56,800
upside. 
That's that's five drinks. 

1305
01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,900
That's Vibe, spaced analysis and
I'm on that. 

1306
01:07:58,900 --> 01:08:02,200
But yeah, yeah, I also think so.
Levi space me Agent. 

1307
01:08:02,200 --> 01:08:06,900
Brown is an absolute Superstar. 
He's younger and he showed in 

1308
01:08:07,500 --> 01:08:10,900
Ultra Elite ceiling last year. 
Like if you're, if you get one 

1309
01:08:10,900 --> 01:08:14,100
of those giant, you know, AJ 
Brown versus the Steelers agent 

1310
01:08:14,100 --> 01:08:18,500
Brown versus the Titans types of
games and the, you don't pull a 

1311
01:08:18,500 --> 01:08:20,100
orders either. 
It's important. 

1312
01:08:20,100 --> 01:08:23,800
Do you care at all that, a.j. 
Browns, week 17 game? 

1313
01:08:24,500 --> 01:08:27,000
Maybe the least competitive. 
Like, it might have a 14 and a 

1314
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,100
half point spread like, are you?
Okay, what if Tyler's back 

1315
01:08:30,100 --> 01:08:32,100
though? 
I don't know good, good. 

1316
01:08:32,100 --> 01:08:35,500
I'm not, I'm not saying it's a 
reason not to take him but in 

1317
01:08:35,500 --> 01:08:37,899
the game of like aren't you 
worried that we play? 

1318
01:08:38,100 --> 01:08:41,300
Aren't you worried about Darius 
sleigh, aren't you? 

1319
01:08:41,300 --> 01:08:44,600
Worried about whatever. 
Like it's something I've thought

1320
01:08:44,600 --> 01:08:48,500
about of being like, that could 
actually be the least 

1321
01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:50,700
competitive week 17 game by like
a lot. 

1322
01:08:51,800 --> 01:08:54,800
Yeah, I mean, that that is not 
ideal that they could just be 

1323
01:08:54,800 --> 01:08:56,899
resting, everybody. 
They could have shut down Kyler 

1324
01:08:57,399 --> 01:08:59,899
but we saw I mean, the Eagles 
were steamrolling teams last 

1325
01:08:59,899 --> 01:09:03,300
year and they were putting up 
until I'm 100% 100%. 

1326
01:09:03,300 --> 01:09:05,300
It's not it's not the kind of 
thing that you can be. 

1327
01:09:05,300 --> 01:09:08,399
Like I'm going to take a stand 
on what I expect the week 17 

1328
01:09:08,399 --> 01:09:13,200
Arizona Cardinals to look like 
right and also like You know, if

1329
01:09:13,200 --> 01:09:15,899
they demolish the Cardinals, 
like there will be points in 

1330
01:09:15,899 --> 01:09:18,100
that demolition in the first 
half. 

1331
01:09:18,100 --> 01:09:20,000
Sure. 
Someone someone on the Eagles is

1332
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,800
going off in the first half, 
someone someone on these are 

1333
01:09:22,800 --> 01:09:25,300
having a great game, right? 
Because the Cardinals defense 

1334
01:09:25,300 --> 01:09:28,200
stinks too, like it's not, you 
know, if they're resting 

1335
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:32,500
starters on defense like holy 
crap, it could be, they could, I

1336
01:09:32,500 --> 01:09:36,800
could only need like it, you 
know, 1/2 44 miles but plus it's

1337
01:09:36,800 --> 01:09:39,899
hard to like fully kind of jumbo
stack the Eagles as well. 

1338
01:09:39,899 --> 01:09:44,000
Mega stack them you know, you 
Yeah, can but it is difficult. 

1339
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:48,100
So you generally want to get my 
one or two guys plus another 

1340
01:09:48,100 --> 01:09:51,600
thing on sorry, dinner up there 
but another thing I'm Jalen like

1341
01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,600
the eagles. 
That's super exciting. 

1342
01:09:53,899 --> 01:09:58,600
Jalen hurd's literally had more 
than double, his total passing 

1343
01:09:58,600 --> 01:10:01,200
yards. 
Sorry he more than doubled up 

1344
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:04,000
his second half passing yards in
the first half of games last 

1345
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:07,700
year and the first half of games
he had 2500 passing yards in the

1346
01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:10,800
second half of games. 
He had just 1,200. 

1347
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:15,800
So like if the Eagles Aren't as 
dominant obviously like there's 

1348
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:18,200
a little you know if they're not
as dominant first, half those 

1349
01:10:18,200 --> 01:10:20,500
first half stats won't look as 
good but like they were just 

1350
01:10:20,500 --> 01:10:23,500
completely blowing teams out of 
the building and not even having

1351
01:10:23,500 --> 01:10:25,700
to try in the second half of 
games last year. 

1352
01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:28,800
If their defense is a little bit
worse, their schedules a little 

1353
01:10:28,800 --> 01:10:31,400
bit harder, like some things 
break in a different way. 

1354
01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:36,700
I think the passing numbers for 
the Eagles could really, really 

1355
01:10:36,700 --> 01:10:39,700
Skyrocket in a way that the 
markets, not not fully baking. 

1356
01:10:39,700 --> 01:10:41,700
And so, they were not afraid to 
pass. 

1357
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:43,200
Ass. 
They were not afraid to attack 

1358
01:10:43,200 --> 01:10:45,400
deep. 
Like this is a team that I think

1359
01:10:45,400 --> 01:10:47,800
can be quite aggressive through 
the air even though like if you 

1360
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:51,700
look at their overall Rush first
pass stuff because they ought, 

1361
01:10:51,700 --> 01:10:54,700
they weren't afraid to run it 
down people's throats either. 

1362
01:10:54,700 --> 01:10:59,900
But they had, they have multiple
approaches, you know, they liked

1363
01:11:00,500 --> 01:11:03,100
and what I loved about the 
Eagles is they were like 

1364
01:11:03,100 --> 01:11:06,600
predictable if they wanted to a 
matchup where there was no pass 

1365
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:11,400
rush bad secondary like, It was 
pretty easy bet that they were 

1366
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,800
just going to Chuck it deep. 
And and that works that works 

1367
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:18,400
super well. 
I mean AJ Brown was Unstoppable 

1368
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:22,900
deep last year so I think Yeah, 
they'll probably run it down 

1369
01:11:22,900 --> 01:11:24,800
people's throats a fair amount 
because are going to be good, 

1370
01:11:25,400 --> 01:11:29,000
but I agree if they need to get 
in a few more shootouts, like 

1371
01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:30,400
they're not going to shy away 
from that. 

1372
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:32,900
This is not the Bears of the 
Falcons like they don't need to 

1373
01:11:32,900 --> 01:11:35,200
like rush it a certain amount of
times feel good about their game

1374
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,700
plan or whatever like they'll go
toe-to-toe with people. 

1375
01:11:38,100 --> 01:11:39,700
Yeah. 
And again just rephrase it 

1376
01:11:39,700 --> 01:11:42,500
slightly differently. 
Like Jalen hurd's would have 

1377
01:11:42,500 --> 01:11:45,600
surpassed 5,000 yards and 15 
games played. 

1378
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:47,800
If you just take his first half 
stats and apply to the second 

1379
01:11:47,800 --> 01:11:50,000
half. 
Now obviously you can't quite do

1380
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,600
that. 
Like But that's like the ceiling

1381
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,500
as a passer. 
We're talking about if the 

1382
01:11:55,500 --> 01:11:58,500
Eagles were forced to pass a 
little bit more and, and if it 

1383
01:11:58,500 --> 01:12:02,500
was a successful as last year, 
so that's why I think AJ Brown 

1384
01:12:02,500 --> 01:12:04,500
and even You could argue 
devaugntah Smith do. 

1385
01:12:04,500 --> 01:12:06,100
I think have a lot of hidden 
upside? 

1386
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,300
Oh, yeah. 
I think Smith has a lot of 

1387
01:12:08,300 --> 01:12:11,600
upside as well. 
Yeah, one guy. 

1388
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:16,400
So ftms, Doom said, an eagle, 
and every draft, I've got a guy 

1389
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:19,300
in my Discord, delicious 
Grizzly, who's been talking of 

1390
01:12:19,300 --> 01:12:23,200
Kenneth gain well, and Gain well
we got a little bit. 

1391
01:12:23,500 --> 01:12:25,800
No, no I've been doing. 
I've been doing the mental 

1392
01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:30,800
calculations of like, Get like 
so there's the tray. 

1393
01:12:30,800 --> 01:12:34,700
Sermon smoke is starting now. 
Then we got that report from the

1394
01:12:34,700 --> 01:12:37,200
athletic Eagles guide that they 
might stash Penny on. 

1395
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,800
I are just to keep him on the 
roster but I have to cut them 

1396
01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:44,400
and if my prior is Tracer I'm 
instincts, which he does. 

1397
01:12:44,700 --> 01:12:48,500
And my prior and my prior is 
that you under a swift was 

1398
01:12:48,500 --> 01:12:51,200
traded for a fourth-round pick. 
And Eric eager said it. 

1399
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:53,000
Best. 
It was to add to the legend of 

1400
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,300
how he Roseman, right? 
It's a fourth-round. 

1401
01:12:55,300 --> 01:12:57,400
Pick doesn't really matter for 
the Eagles because they have so 

1402
01:12:57,400 --> 01:13:01,100
many but he's getting great Pub 
because people know who DeAndre 

1403
01:13:01,100 --> 01:13:03,600
Swift is Right? 
DeAndre Swift is a name, people 

1404
01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:05,600
know him, they saw him on Hard 
Knocks, he was a second-round 

1405
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:09,300
pick, Georgia, yada yada. 
The under a swift is the fourth 

1406
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:10,700
highest paid running back on the
Eagles. 

1407
01:13:10,700 --> 01:13:13,000
Roster. 
I think one the idea that he's, 

1408
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:17,000
like, set up for this Bell cow 
role and to, I don't think he is

1409
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:19,400
a stone block to make the 53 
either. 

1410
01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:23,500
I think he's like 79, no 85 
Clinic guys. 

1411
01:13:23,500 --> 01:13:26,600
Think he it, they think it's 
Swift and gain well, who are 

1412
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:30,500
locks Hmm. 
And so that's what I that's what

1413
01:13:30,500 --> 01:13:32,400
I read. 
I think I think I think the 

1414
01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:35,600
locks are gained well in Scott. 
I think those I think those are.

1415
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,900
I think those are the two locks.
I see, I don't think Scott's a 

1416
01:13:38,907 --> 01:13:40,700
lock at all. 
If one point nine million 

1417
01:13:40,700 --> 01:13:42,700
dollars guaranteed, they're not 
cutting him. 

1418
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,400
I don't know, man. 
I mean they could, they could 

1419
01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:48,700
Scott is the highest paid Eagles
running back. 

1420
01:13:48,700 --> 01:13:50,900
There's, there's a little bit of
trivia here on the pro. 

1421
01:13:50,900 --> 01:13:52,900
They really have to go probably 
carry for, right? 

1422
01:13:52,900 --> 01:13:55,700
So, it's certain someone's gonna
get caught for, or with a 

1423
01:13:55,700 --> 01:13:58,000
healthy scratch, which will be 
Scott. 

1424
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:03,000
Most likely, but it could be 10 
or it could be Penny starts the 

1425
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:06,500
season on ir and sermons, that 
healthy scratch and Scott's 

1426
01:14:06,500 --> 01:14:10,400
active, but I won't be, I don't 
think it'll be gained, well, he 

1427
01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:14,500
also know. 
Okay, recently is a receiver and

1428
01:14:14,500 --> 01:14:18,300
the bet is You're the guy in 
your Discord is Right? 

1429
01:14:18,300 --> 01:14:20,800
Which is that the bet that 
people the role that people 

1430
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:24,100
think Swift has is actually the 
role that gain well has and and 

1431
01:14:24,100 --> 01:14:25,800
gain well is actually ahead of 
Swift. 

1432
01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:30,100
I would not be shocked. 
I would I would assume that 

1433
01:14:30,100 --> 01:14:33,300
Swift is ahead of gain well but 
I would not be shocked if we 

1434
01:14:33,300 --> 01:14:35,400
just have that wrong. 
He's ahead. 

1435
01:14:35,400 --> 01:14:38,700
He's ahead of gain well until 
they asked him to run inside 

1436
01:14:38,700 --> 01:14:42,400
once and he bounces it outside 
instead and said, and tells the 

1437
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,300
running back coach, I didn't 
want to get hit. 

1438
01:14:44,700 --> 01:14:49,100
So let me like, let me pour a 
little cold water on gain. 

1439
01:14:49,100 --> 01:14:53,800
Well, Mi Sanders missed three 
weeks last year week, eight, 

1440
01:14:53,800 --> 01:14:56,500
week, 9 and week 10, gain Wells,
snap. 

1441
01:14:56,700 --> 01:15:02,200
Percentages in those three games
31% 19% 31% and they just moved 

1442
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:04,200
Boston, Scott into the lead 
role. 

1443
01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:09,100
So I'm a little skeptical that 
gain well, has much contingent 

1444
01:15:09,100 --> 01:15:13,500
upside outside of like a 30% 
receiving role in this offense, 

1445
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:15,200
like, I don't know. 
I'm just remembering last year, 

1446
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:17,600
I was so excited when I had them
on a bunch of teams I was in on 

1447
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,400
him last year. 
He is not a guy wear, when the 

1448
01:15:20,400 --> 01:15:23,800
lead back went down. 
He grew into a larger role and I

1449
01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:27,600
think in half, PPR like I'm 
still to like Pick one ninety or

1450
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,200
whatever. 
I'm not saying gain Wells like a

1451
01:15:29,208 --> 01:15:31,600
bad pick now, but I don't know, 
man. 

1452
01:15:31,600 --> 01:15:33,600
I'm like, what do you when you 
win with gain? 

1453
01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:36,100
Well, I'm a little skeptical 
that they view him as a guy who 

1454
01:15:36,100 --> 01:15:38,300
can, who can carry the load and 
the soft. 

1455
01:15:38,300 --> 01:15:41,800
Well, I think one thing in 
analysis with us that we don't 

1456
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:44,700
have access to the playoff, 
data's is handily and he had, he

1457
01:15:44,700 --> 01:15:48,800
had 30 snaps 34 snaps in, 38 
snaps in the three playoff 

1458
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,800
games, which I think, I don't 
know the totals but that, yeah, 

1459
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:57,300
that's what he, I believe. 
He led the Eagles backfield It 

1460
01:15:57,300 --> 01:16:00,500
snaps in the Super Bowl. 
I believe you did as well. 

1461
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,200
He did. 
And it's also, yeah, it's 

1462
01:16:03,200 --> 01:16:05,300
totally fair. 
That probably a reason. 

1463
01:16:05,300 --> 01:16:08,000
Some of those Snaps are so low 
in the game that Sanders missed 

1464
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,200
is because they were probably 
just blowing out team so they 

1465
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:12,600
could just put in Scott for 
right, the carries, right? 

1466
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,100
So, but that's the thing about 
half this snaps, the the hurts 

1467
01:16:16,100 --> 01:16:18,900
played 67, 68 and 70 for snaps 
and those three games. 

1468
01:16:18,900 --> 01:16:21,600
So that's something like half 
the snaps in the playoffs. 

1469
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:23,800
It's just this like weird parlay
though, with gain. 

1470
01:16:23,800 --> 01:16:26,200
While we're like if they're 
blowing out teams, which will 

1471
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:29,200
probably have Happen to get bit.
Like he's probably not the guy 

1472
01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,800
getting the goal line touches in
the, you know, carries between 

1473
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:35,800
the 20s, I guess, in passing 
scripts, he's getting the work, 

1474
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,900
but he's also competing with 
swift there. 

1475
01:16:38,100 --> 01:16:42,900
So I get the bad totally at pick
180 but like, I don't have, we 

1476
01:16:42,900 --> 01:16:47,500
seen gain well like have much of
a weekly ceiling in his NFL 

1477
01:16:47,500 --> 01:16:50,000
career so far in the playoffs. 
He was really good in the 

1478
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,600
playoffs in the playoffs. 
That's right. 

1479
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:54,200
That's fair. 
He had like a head like a 

1480
01:16:54,200 --> 01:16:57,600
billion fantasy points against 
the Giants in, but no one really

1481
01:16:57,600 --> 01:16:59,800
liked factors that in cause we 
can't like, average it into 

1482
01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,300
stuff and doesn't like people 
today about the playoffs is if 

1483
01:17:02,300 --> 01:17:06,300
they don't count, they do count.
He also, he also had layoffs 

1484
01:17:06,300 --> 01:17:09,200
playoff, Lenny that one year 
that every also have multiple 

1485
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,500
doesn't count doesn't count, 
right? 

1486
01:17:10,500 --> 01:17:12,200
And then the following year you 
took over the backfield. 

1487
01:17:12,200 --> 01:17:15,600
It's like well he was the guy 
they trusted in the playoffs, 

1488
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,800
you know, maybe that matters if 
we should have acted that in. 

1489
01:17:19,100 --> 01:17:20,500
Yeah, that's fair. 
That's fair. 

1490
01:17:25,000 --> 01:17:28,900
He also said, he had multiple 
targets bike weeks, despite 

1491
01:17:28,900 --> 01:17:33,400
being, like 30 percent Target 
share guy as a rookie or 30% 

1492
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:36,500
snap shirt guy. 
Yeah. 

1493
01:17:36,500 --> 01:17:41,600
I just think I think that Swift 
is a horrible bet at his price. 

1494
01:17:41,600 --> 01:17:45,400
I'd be I if Swift was 15 picks 
cheaper. 

1495
01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,000
I could see myself snapping off 
a lot of him just because he 

1496
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:50,600
becomes an asymmetric bed at 
that range. 

1497
01:17:51,000 --> 01:17:55,200
But where he's going now I'm 
like, dude, there's a chance, 

1498
01:17:55,400 --> 01:18:00,300
DeAndre Swift place, like 14 
snaps a game for the 2023 

1499
01:18:00,300 --> 01:18:02,900
Philadelphia Eagles. 
I don't think that's likely but 

1500
01:18:02,900 --> 01:18:05,500
it's way more possible than the 
guys he's going around. 

1501
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:11,300
Yeah, I think if the bet in 
total is just ambiguous 

1502
01:18:11,300 --> 01:18:14,800
backfield Elite offense like 
that's that's the bet. 

1503
01:18:15,300 --> 01:18:19,700
And so if you can get the 
cheapest guy, Who's likely to 

1504
01:18:19,708 --> 01:18:23,600
make the roster? 
I think that's like, that's how 

1505
01:18:23,600 --> 01:18:27,600
you capture upside, you know, 
with very little downside. 

1506
01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,900
So gain while I've actually 
really come around on, right? 

1507
01:18:29,900 --> 01:18:32,300
I kind of like mixing them in 
not because I think he's the 

1508
01:18:32,300 --> 01:18:34,600
most likely guy, but I'm just 
getting him for free. 

1509
01:18:35,100 --> 01:18:37,800
Where's like? 
Swift is the most expensive. 

1510
01:18:37,900 --> 01:18:41,600
He's going to make the roster 
but like his projected role is 

1511
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,300
pretty similar to what we would 
project gained. 

1512
01:18:44,300 --> 01:18:46,700
Well to have, if gained while 
just ends up beating him out, 

1513
01:18:46,700 --> 01:18:49,900
which is not crazy given that 
the team just gave up on him. 

1514
01:18:50,100 --> 01:18:52,700
And he's only, we got a 
fourth-round pick behind his 

1515
01:18:52,700 --> 01:18:56,400
name now and then Penny isn't a 
lock to make the roster. 

1516
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:59,600
So I've started to cool on Penny
and I met I love betting on 

1517
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:01,600
Penny because I think he's such 
a talented roster and I think 

1518
01:19:01,600 --> 01:19:04,200
you'd be such a good fit with 
this Eagles like offense when 

1519
01:19:04,200 --> 01:19:07,400
they're maybe not up by three 
scores but when they're up by 

1520
01:19:07,400 --> 01:19:10,600
one and a half or two, you know,
they're just gonna they're going

1521
01:19:10,600 --> 01:19:15,000
to lean on him and he can score 
a bunch of touchdowns but Is 

1522
01:19:15,000 --> 01:19:17,900
pretty expensive for like 
doesn't maybe doesn't make the 

1523
01:19:17,900 --> 01:19:21,600
roster or start the season on. 
I are like that's it, makes me a

1524
01:19:21,608 --> 01:19:24,000
little queasy. 
That's what I've taken very 

1525
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:27,200
little penny in post draft 
stuff, just because the 

1526
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:29,300
pre-draft stuff I was so 
overweight that. 

1527
01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:33,900
Like now, I just feel that the 
risk is the risk of it that I 

1528
01:19:33,900 --> 01:19:38,000
can't take. 
I cannot take penny at at 

1529
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:41,800
running back, 37, right now. 
I think I would. 

1530
01:19:41,800 --> 01:19:44,000
So this is like a nuanced. 
Take where, if I hadn't loaded 

1531
01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:47,100
up on him pre-draft, I probably 
would be fine with the price, 

1532
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,000
but the fact that I have is 
making me to say, hey, if 

1533
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:52,800
Penny's a smash, I got plenty of
bullets. 

1534
01:19:52,900 --> 01:19:53,600
Where he's? 
Yeah. 

1535
01:19:53,600 --> 01:19:59,000
Smash already. 
So yeah, if so one question. 

1536
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:03,400
If the Eagles played the Giants 
and week 17, Boston Scott would 

1537
01:20:03,400 --> 01:20:04,800
be, what? 
Like a fourth-round pick? 

1538
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:10,000
Yeah, running back running back.
35 two touchdowns lock it in. 

1539
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:13,900
Yes, I like more than medicine. 
Yeah. 

1540
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,200
Okay, a couple other things 
here. 

1541
01:20:16,200 --> 01:20:19,300
I don't think if you talk about 
too much Jeff, Wilson and most 

1542
01:20:19,300 --> 01:20:22,300
are down. 
I think that's pretty obvious. 

1543
01:20:22,700 --> 01:20:25,600
Kettle is down for, who knows 
what? 

1544
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,800
Reason, that doesn't make any 
sense to me, but the tight end 

1545
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:32,100
prices up as we talked about 
continue to be cheaper than they

1546
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:35,400
were last year, especially for 
like the second or third-tier, 

1547
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:40,300
guys, whatever you want to call 
like the kid'll Hawkinson pits 

1548
01:20:40,300 --> 01:20:41,000
God. 
Tear. 

1549
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,100
Those guys are pretty cheap, 
it's totally irrational, it's 

1550
01:20:44,100 --> 01:20:48,400
totally rational Kettle Kettle. 
Should actually be going up. 

1551
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,600
As it becomes more clear that 
Purdy's going to be ready. 

1552
01:20:50,600 --> 01:20:52,500
Be going up. 
Exactly right, man. 

1553
01:20:52,500 --> 01:20:55,000
He should be going up and he's 
going aye-aye, Jake. 

1554
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,900
I take all these 49ers right now
Debo. 

1555
01:20:57,900 --> 01:21:00,100
I you, yeah, it'll Elijah 
Mitchell. 

1556
01:21:00,100 --> 01:21:02,600
I take all of them right now 
because of the other thing is, 

1557
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,300
it quarterbacks are, are getting
cheaper. 

1558
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:08,700
But with so many of my team's 
not having an elite quarterback.

1559
01:21:08,700 --> 01:21:10,800
I want to take three a lot and 
Pretty. 

1560
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:13,000
You could still get like 15 16. 
Yeah. 

1561
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:16,500
And the thing is like, okay is 
the key to the season, really 

1562
01:21:16,500 --> 01:21:20,000
going to be like draft Chiefs 
wide receivers and the 49ers 

1563
01:21:20,000 --> 01:21:22,000
like is that is it, could it be 
that easy? 

1564
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:26,100
But like the way the atp's are 
setting up like That's it could 

1565
01:21:26,100 --> 01:21:30,000
be that easy like I don't I mean
the other thing too is that like

1566
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,900
I like the Commander's wide 
receivers coming back. 

1567
01:21:32,900 --> 01:21:36,300
I like orange ice. 
I like they fit the way you 

1568
01:21:36,300 --> 01:21:37,400
build. 
Your team's is. 

1569
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:40,100
Okay, I take Kettle. 
Then I take Datsun like you 

1570
01:21:40,100 --> 01:21:41,800
could just you could just get 
right through it. 

1571
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,200
Yeah. 
And I mean I take Brian Robinson

1572
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:47,000
and Gibson. 
I think they're both Robinson is

1573
01:21:47,008 --> 01:21:50,600
now starting to go behind Gibson
sometimes which I also think is 

1574
01:21:50,600 --> 01:21:52,800
irrational. 
Like that's all right, they are 

1575
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,700
planets. 
Unite our in Roberts. 

1576
01:21:56,400 --> 01:22:01,000
You think we're rational, Gibson
Gibson is the much better bet. 

1577
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:04,500
Don't don't get to. 
Don't get to the same cause no, 

1578
01:22:04,500 --> 01:22:08,900
no, no, don't get too bogged 
down in the scoring system 

1579
01:22:08,900 --> 01:22:10,200
because that's exactly what it 
is. 

1580
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,200
Brian Robinson's better Batten, 
and a format. 

1581
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:15,000
No that's not what it is. 
It's a he's the starter and 

1582
01:22:15,100 --> 01:22:16,900
they're using him in the 
receiving game as well. 

1583
01:22:16,900 --> 01:22:19,100
Like you missed that like any 
Russian. 

1584
01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:22,800
Look at last year, it was better
than Gibson and any rushing 

1585
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:24,100
style. 
You look at last year and he got

1586
01:22:24,100 --> 01:22:26,600
shot before. 
The And let me, let me tell you 

1587
01:22:26,600 --> 01:22:29,900
a secret about, like, come on, 
guys, like better. 

1588
01:22:29,900 --> 01:22:33,000
And every rushing stat and 
literally was shot before the 

1589
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,700
season. 
Come on. 

1590
01:22:36,100 --> 01:22:38,400
I think there's a couple or 
Gibson's better, but I like that

1591
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,100
breakfast, receiving stuff, 
maybe. 

1592
01:22:40,100 --> 01:22:43,900
But I don't know, like Gibson 
Gibson is just like if you look 

1593
01:22:43,900 --> 01:22:47,000
at all the stuff, we like to 
look at in terms of like 

1594
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:50,700
profiling, guys, he's a better 
player and this terrible, this 

1595
01:22:50,700 --> 01:22:54,600
this, this horrible no-good 
Antonia Gibson is a loser. 

1596
01:22:54,600 --> 01:22:58,000
We who we got a draft at Running
Back 40 season, but he just had 

1597
01:22:58,200 --> 01:23:01,700
came in with 900 yards, five 
touchdowns in 58 targets, like I

1598
01:23:01,708 --> 01:23:05,200
just, I like both. 
I like both. 

1599
01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:08,400
It's a bad. 
I really like to make so Sam's, 

1600
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,000
right? 
By the way, the ones that I 

1601
01:23:10,008 --> 01:23:13,200
thought Gibson had been a head 
on, it was NFL next interested 

1602
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:17,900
Observer expected but he wasn't.
Brian Robinson was like decently

1603
01:23:17,900 --> 01:23:19,800
better. 
He performed above expectations 

1604
01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,100
and Gibson was below Robinson. 
Also had a better success rate 

1605
01:23:23,500 --> 01:23:28,000
than Gibson, which is like kind 
of why Robinson's ahead I think 

1606
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:29,800
is that like he does running 
back stuff. 

1607
01:23:29,800 --> 01:23:32,100
He hits the right hole. 
He you know they trust him to 

1608
01:23:32,100 --> 01:23:35,300
kind of be a reliable running 
back now to Inverted receiver. 

1609
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:40,600
And I think that Matt like I do 
think listen, I don't want to 

1610
01:23:40,600 --> 01:23:43,400
pay like a big premium for that 
like a fifth round six around 

1611
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:45,300
price just because like the 
coaches like a guy and I don't 

1612
01:23:45,300 --> 01:23:48,100
think he's that talented, like I
hate doing that but if it's in 

1613
01:23:48,100 --> 01:23:51,500
the ninth or tenth round like 
I'm getting the guy that the 

1614
01:23:51,500 --> 01:23:54,200
coaches want to start and was 
like an okay Russia last year 

1615
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:55,600
and is in a total zero in the 
passing game. 

1616
01:23:55,600 --> 01:23:58,500
Like it's feels like picking up 
coins on the sidewalk. 

1617
01:23:58,500 --> 01:24:00,400
I got like all right. 
Sweet like free money. 

1618
01:24:00,500 --> 01:24:03,200
And then what do I get for that 
free money? 

1619
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:06,100
Like I get to load up on my 
receiver earlier, take 

1620
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:08,600
Robinson's kind of that. 
Zero running back guy for me 

1621
01:24:08,600 --> 01:24:09,800
right now even though he's 
gross. 

1622
01:24:09,800 --> 01:24:11,700
He's not as he's not as sexy as 
Gibson. 

1623
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:16,000
Yeah, I mean I think we both 
like we both. 

1624
01:24:16,000 --> 01:24:18,200
I think all three of us like 
both of them. 

1625
01:24:18,200 --> 01:24:21,200
I think that's fair to say. 
So like I don't want to like are

1626
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:23,700
going to Gibson more when he was
the like significantly cheaper 

1627
01:24:23,700 --> 01:24:24,400
now. 
Exactly. 

1628
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:29,000
Yes, it's closing its closing a 
little bit because virgins are 

1629
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:33,300
in on Gibson myself. 
Include I mean I like Gibson a 

1630
01:24:33,308 --> 01:24:36,800
lot more just because I can I 
can tell myself such a story 

1631
01:24:36,900 --> 01:24:39,000
about Gibson where is Brian 
Robinson. 

1632
01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:42,600
The story I tell is that he just
has three yards and a cloud of 

1633
01:24:42,700 --> 01:24:46,400
Dusting his way to, you know, 
sixteen and a half points. 

1634
01:24:46,700 --> 01:24:48,600
Yeah. 
Why can't remember after David 

1635
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:51,100
Montgomery's rookie season? 
When we were like Montgomery 

1636
01:24:51,100 --> 01:24:56,400
sucks, we have no interest in 
Montgomery but like and guess 

1637
01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,600
what? 
Dave Montgomery does kind of 

1638
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:02,000
suck, but he had a decent 
stretch in his second year where

1639
01:25:02,000 --> 01:25:05,900
he was like running all over 
terrible defenses and the team 

1640
01:25:05,900 --> 01:25:11,600
as we thought they would used 
him a lot and like I think tree 

1641
01:25:11,600 --> 01:25:12,600
Cohen got hurt at the end of 
that. 

1642
01:25:12,800 --> 01:25:14,700
Season. 
And so that, that helped his 

1643
01:25:14,700 --> 01:25:17,400
snap share. 
But like in a sense you know, he

1644
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:19,600
does also have contingent value 
because it gives him where to 

1645
01:25:19,600 --> 01:25:22,400
get hurt and they're just like 
well Chris Rodriguez Rodriguez, 

1646
01:25:22,400 --> 01:25:23,800
isn't it? 
We're going to just like ride 

1647
01:25:23,800 --> 01:25:28,500
this guy Robinson's the guy who 
could, you know, have a 75% 

1648
01:25:28,500 --> 01:25:30,000
snaps. 
You're pretty easily if Gibson 

1649
01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:30,700
mrs. 
Time. 

1650
01:25:31,100 --> 01:25:34,800
So yeah, I mean that coaches 
Trust on early Downs. 

1651
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,500
I think he's helpful. 
It's not everything but it is 

1652
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:40,400
helpful and you're and you're 
paying like very little for it. 

1653
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,600
You're almost like paying 
nothing for it at this point. 

1654
01:25:42,700 --> 01:25:44,900
And now you're paying nothing. 
And I mean, it sounds like, I 

1655
01:25:44,907 --> 01:25:48,100
was joking a little bit, but 
like he literally got shot like 

1656
01:25:48,100 --> 01:25:51,100
a month before the year. 
Like, is it not impossible that 

1657
01:25:51,100 --> 01:25:54,300
that like severely impacted his 
training and little? 

1658
01:25:54,300 --> 01:25:57,400
I think, I think dance, like, I 
think you are 100%. 

1659
01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,700
Correct. 
I think you, I totally buy your 

1660
01:25:59,700 --> 01:26:02,100
point. 
Like, I think I could be better,

1661
01:26:02,200 --> 01:26:05,200
could be better than last year, 
like we say that about pretty 

1662
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,700
much every second year back, is 
that they, I was drafting some 

1663
01:26:07,700 --> 01:26:10,100
nausea hair. 
So I thought, stunk as a rookie 

1664
01:26:10,100 --> 01:26:12,900
thoughts, dunk last year, and 
thoughts things now but I Drive 

1665
01:26:12,900 --> 01:26:15,500
to the most of them last year 
because I was like, he's a 

1666
01:26:15,500 --> 01:26:17,400
second-year player. 
Like who knows like leaving a 

1667
01:26:17,407 --> 01:26:20,000
better had terrible efficiency 
and it was amazing as a second 

1668
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,600
here. 
It's guy like that. 

1669
01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:25,500
First off season is helpful. 
But anyways, back to the Davis 

1670
01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:26,800
is over. 
We'll both your eyes points 

1671
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:30,900
around Washington San Francisco.
The stack is pretty cheap. 

1672
01:26:31,300 --> 01:26:34,000
It's got on the middle here. 
I mean, basically that this 

1673
01:26:34,000 --> 01:26:35,800
chart is interesting, right 
because it's like Kansas City. 

1674
01:26:35,800 --> 01:26:39,400
Cincinnati is like very 
expensive and then it's a bunch 

1675
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:42,300
of games that are all kind of 
similar like Miami through 

1676
01:26:42,300 --> 01:26:43,800
Baltimore. 
More all the way through 

1677
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:45,800
Washington's through San 
Francisco. 

1678
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,400
It's kind of like similar prices
on these Stacks, which is 

1679
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,100
understanding. 
There's not really like huge 

1680
01:26:50,100 --> 01:26:54,500
standouts, but it's, you know, 
for how good San Francisco is 

1681
01:26:54,508 --> 01:26:57,000
expected to be this year. 
Like I think they still have the

1682
01:26:57,000 --> 01:26:59,300
third highest Super Bowl odds or
something like that. 

1683
01:26:59,300 --> 01:27:02,600
Like, I think the San Francisco 
stack. 

1684
01:27:02,700 --> 01:27:05,700
If you hit on the right guys, 
has a ton offside relative the 

1685
01:27:05,700 --> 01:27:07,700
call. 
So I'm definitely with you guys 

1686
01:27:07,700 --> 01:27:10,700
are still don't have a much more
open to taking Port Purdy. 

1687
01:27:10,700 --> 01:27:15,200
Now, what Like kind of mildly 
targeting pretty now. 

1688
01:27:16,100 --> 01:27:18,500
He's my he's my most draft of 
quarterback and best Ball Mania 

1689
01:27:18,500 --> 01:27:21,400
for right now just saying. 
Yeah, but it's not like, it's 

1690
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:25,200
not like I'm trying to do it but
the he just is always there. 

1691
01:27:25,300 --> 01:27:29,000
He's all like compare the 
ceiling that we have already. 

1692
01:27:29,000 --> 01:27:32,700
Seen Brock Purdy do we've 
already seen multiple 30 burgers

1693
01:27:32,700 --> 01:27:37,400
at a block party in NFL games 
that count against the standings

1694
01:27:37,900 --> 01:27:42,100
and compare that to what your 
base expectation for CJ, Stroud 

1695
01:27:42,100 --> 01:27:47,300
and Bryce. 
Young is, it's just, it's almost

1696
01:27:48,200 --> 01:27:51,800
the only thing keeping Purdy 
from going where Derek Carr 

1697
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:55,400
goes. 
Is that the 49ers have not had a

1698
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,300
press conference saying pretty 
is healthy, and will be our 

1699
01:27:58,300 --> 01:27:59,800
starter and week one. 
That's it. 

1700
01:27:59,800 --> 01:28:03,400
The, the second, the, when they 
do that, when it's time to come 

1701
01:28:03,400 --> 01:28:06,800
in for training camp and pretty,
I believe, actually the date, 

1702
01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,100
they said they were going to 
know, pretty like, goes back 

1703
01:28:09,100 --> 01:28:11,400
into a surgeon to be 
re-evaluated pretty soon. 

1704
01:28:11,700 --> 01:28:14,800
And whenever That happens. 
And they do that report and they

1705
01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:17,000
say, he's ahead of schedule. 
He's on schedule. 

1706
01:28:17,000 --> 01:28:19,600
He's behind schedule. 
That's going to be an inflection

1707
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,500
point for his price. 
I agree. 

1708
01:28:24,300 --> 01:28:26,900
And you can stack it up. 
I mean if you don't get pretty 

1709
01:28:27,500 --> 01:28:30,900
like I have a team without a 
cowl hood, you can take healthy 

1710
01:28:30,900 --> 01:28:33,400
one but you just don't need 
either quarterback. 

1711
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,300
Like I've done this since the 
beginning of, you know, on 

1712
01:28:36,300 --> 01:28:38,400
patches just say the name. 
Who's the quarterback in 

1713
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,900
Washington, you're taken. 
I'm not taking Brissette. 

1714
01:28:40,900 --> 01:28:42,800
I don't see why I need to be 
right. 

1715
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:46,400
Like, why do I have to be right?
I just don't I just I just don't

1716
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,600
want to be wrong, right? 
There's points in this game. 

1717
01:28:50,400 --> 01:28:53,200
How do I get those points? 
Well kiddo. 

1718
01:28:53,300 --> 01:28:54,900
Il Divo. 
I uke. 

1719
01:28:55,800 --> 01:28:57,900
Elijah, Mitchell. 
Christian McCaffrey all seem 

1720
01:28:57,900 --> 01:29:01,900
like awesome bets Datsun. 
McLaren great bets. 

1721
01:29:02,500 --> 01:29:05,800
Now, I need to like, make a kind
of a shitty bet on Jacoby were 

1722
01:29:05,800 --> 01:29:09,200
sad or same howl, like no, I 
don't want to make that bet, why

1723
01:29:09,200 --> 01:29:11,700
don't? 
I make a bet on Anthony 

1724
01:29:11,700 --> 01:29:14,400
Richardson and get him single 
stacked and not have to worry 

1725
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:18,000
about that shit. 
Like I love, I love the Anthony 

1726
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,300
Richardson, and you just take 
one of Alec Pierce or Josh towns

1727
01:29:21,300 --> 01:29:23,000
and that's it. 
That's the only, it's only 

1728
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:24,700
thing. 
It's only thing you do, I'm done

1729
01:29:24,700 --> 01:29:26,900
and I think it's good. 
I can get down. 

1730
01:29:26,900 --> 01:29:29,200
So I want to double it to. 
I could take a Jelani Woods 

1731
01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:32,100
tackle and stuff like that, like
I can get that so cheap. 

1732
01:29:32,300 --> 01:29:36,600
And then I have this other game 
game stack, sniping me on Purdy 

1733
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:39,500
is like, it does nothing to me, 
like, I have a kettle. 

1734
01:29:40,300 --> 01:29:44,700
I think I had like, I think it 
was kid'll, I you Ken Depot on a

1735
01:29:44,708 --> 01:29:49,300
team and I didn't get pretty and
I don't fucking care like 

1736
01:29:49,300 --> 01:29:51,900
because because guess what, what
if Purdy misses the first six 

1737
01:29:51,900 --> 01:29:55,500
games and you know he's like a 
it actually would have hurt me 

1738
01:29:55,500 --> 01:29:58,100
to take him. 
Like I'll be fine with that. 

1739
01:29:58,100 --> 01:30:00,800
That pretty point. 
I'm usually in that build I will

1740
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,200
have you know at least one early
quarterback. 

1741
01:30:03,700 --> 01:30:06,500
Sure if I had didn't have pretty
and I have like Derek Carr Bryce

1742
01:30:06,500 --> 01:30:08,700
young and CJ, Stroud, like that 
fucking size. 

1743
01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:12,800
But if I have taken care of 
quarterback early, I just I 

1744
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:14,900
don't mind it and you can 
always, you can Target pretty as

1745
01:30:14,900 --> 01:30:21,000
your quarterback to or you can 
you can you know, figure out 

1746
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,300
quarterback to elsewhere, you'll
be fine. 

1747
01:30:22,900 --> 01:30:26,100
I think one thing, this isn't 
quite on the level of like 

1748
01:30:26,100 --> 01:30:29,500
Jameson Williams having one 
catch last year, but like, I 

1749
01:30:29,500 --> 01:30:32,300
feel like I've been psyop with 
the Sam Howell week. 

1750
01:30:32,700 --> 01:30:35,400
We Katie. 
Yeah, 40 he had for you rushing 

1751
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:40,200
yards. 
Passing stat was 11 for 19 for 

1752
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,300
169 yards one. 
Touchdown, and one interception,

1753
01:30:43,300 --> 01:30:46,000
I know he added some rushing, 
but I feel like when people talk

1754
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,100
about that game, like, in my 
head, I thought he threw for 

1755
01:30:48,100 --> 01:30:54,000
like, 300 yards or something, 
but 11 419, like, I don't know, 

1756
01:30:54,100 --> 01:30:58,600
it's at this point, I think 
Howell is becoming an even worse

1757
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:01,200
pick than he's been all 
offseason. 

1758
01:31:01,200 --> 01:31:04,900
And I think he's been a terrible
pick all offseason because just 

1759
01:31:04,900 --> 01:31:06,700
play the game from the Pretty 
side. 

1760
01:31:06,700 --> 01:31:09,500
If you're insisting that, you 
must take a quarterback from 

1761
01:31:09,500 --> 01:31:11,900
they can take pretty and like 
take per diem. 

1762
01:31:12,100 --> 01:31:15,800
Single stack them like if you've
1p take pretty and Elijah 

1763
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,200
Mitchell, just bet on the 49ers 
like sure. 

1764
01:31:18,200 --> 01:31:19,600
You know. 
Yeah. 

1765
01:31:19,700 --> 01:31:23,700
Why do you need to be right? 
That Howl's the guile season. 

1766
01:31:23,700 --> 01:31:26,200
It's a thin bet. 
It's a very thin bet. 

1767
01:31:26,500 --> 01:31:28,800
Yeah. 
I think you actually just hit on

1768
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:32,600
like a larger point which almost
never gets discussed when we're 

1769
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,600
talking about why stacking is so
effective and so good in this 

1770
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:37,200
format, which is like, 
obviously, yes. 

1771
01:31:37,200 --> 01:31:40,200
You need to score the week 17 
points, but there's this other 

1772
01:31:40,500 --> 01:31:44,700
sort of hidden element. 
That people just totally 

1773
01:31:44,700 --> 01:31:48,000
overlooked which is that 
stacking is going to help your 

1774
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:52,300
weekly scores by quite a bit 
because the weeks where your 

1775
01:31:52,700 --> 01:31:56,200
Brock birdie gets 30 a week 8 
rock party gets 33. 

1776
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,900
You probably also just got at 
least one Spike week with your 

1777
01:31:59,900 --> 01:32:01,600
stack. 
It like it improves your regular

1778
01:32:01,600 --> 01:32:05,300
season scores by quite a bit to 
maybe not on a median you know 

1779
01:32:05,308 --> 01:32:08,100
maybe Brock Purdy and Jimmy 
Garoppolo score the exact same 

1780
01:32:08,100 --> 01:32:11,300
number of fantasy points over 17
weeks but the way in which it 

1781
01:32:11,300 --> 01:32:14,500
impacts the scores available to 
your lineup is going to be 

1782
01:32:14,700 --> 01:32:19,800
really beneficial. 
Yeah, now I agree with that. 

1783
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:22,200
I think there's certainly 
something to like the layering 

1784
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:26,100
aspect there where if you kind 
of heavily stacked two or three 

1785
01:32:26,100 --> 01:32:30,000
offenses, the odds that one of 
them is going to go off in any 

1786
01:32:30,000 --> 01:32:33,200
given week and like count a lot 
towards your roster points like 

1787
01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:36,600
I don't have math or the hard 
numbers to back that up but I 

1788
01:32:36,800 --> 01:32:39,900
definitely buy that. 
That's that's true. 

1789
01:32:40,600 --> 01:32:45,200
Yeah I mean I guess I can call 
up a dinner Leone to verify that

1790
01:32:45,200 --> 01:32:47,900
I'm not just talking out of my 
ass but that that It's just, 

1791
01:32:47,900 --> 01:32:51,600
that is my intuitive sense. 
Yeah, same for me, we don't have

1792
01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:54,500
to be perfect in these, you 
know, week 17, not every player.

1793
01:32:54,500 --> 01:32:56,800
It's going to hit your line up 
so you don't have to be perfect.

1794
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,800
Like you can have some misses, 
you can be directionally 

1795
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:01,700
accurate with these with these 
Stacks. 

1796
01:33:02,300 --> 01:33:07,000
You don't want to draft guys who
like don't play, you know, at 

1797
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:08,600
all season, that's going to hurt
you. 

1798
01:33:08,700 --> 01:33:12,800
But like, if you that on an 
offense and that offense is 

1799
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:16,200
awesome and MIT mispriced, maybe
they're not awesome but they 

1800
01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:19,900
were they were too cheap. 
And that's going to help you in 

1801
01:33:19,900 --> 01:33:21,900
a big way. 
Get to the playoffs, get through

1802
01:33:21,900 --> 01:33:24,600
the playoffs. 
If you're over stacked and week 

1803
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:28,600
17 like I don't know that that 
hurts, you all that much, you 

1804
01:33:28,600 --> 01:33:31,800
know, maybe it will. 
If we get like way sharper with 

1805
01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:35,500
this stuff or field sizes start 
to get bigger and bigger. 

1806
01:33:35,500 --> 01:33:38,900
And, you know, if I had to take 
down a 5,000 person tournament, 

1807
01:33:39,500 --> 01:33:42,600
I think I would be pretty, 
pretty sketched out by over 

1808
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:44,800
stacking because I need to be 
very, very right. 

1809
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,800
I need to hit on like all the 
right. 

1810
01:33:48,300 --> 01:33:50,200
Spike week. 
You know it let's say there was 

1811
01:33:50,200 --> 01:33:53,800
a 500,000 final invest ball, 
you're going to need to 

1812
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:57,700
essentially get all the correct 
Spike weeks on one team or at 

1813
01:33:57,700 --> 01:34:01,500
least you have to have like, you
know, 75% of them or something, 

1814
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:05,800
you can't like be mostly, right?
You have to be pretty close to 

1815
01:34:05,800 --> 01:34:07,400
perfect but that's not what 
we're doing right now. 

1816
01:34:07,400 --> 01:34:09,100
It's 441 and best of all media 
for. 

1817
01:34:09,800 --> 01:34:13,100
Yeah, I'm on the side of like 
whenever I post a team and I get

1818
01:34:13,100 --> 01:34:16,600
the feedback like I post one 
other day, I took Daniel Jones 

1819
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:18,100
and then my Three wide 
receivers. 

1820
01:34:18,100 --> 01:34:21,000
I took Hodgins Slayton. 
Somebody else. 

1821
01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:24,600
I do it might have been pilot or
one day or something and I got 

1822
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:26,800
all this feedback that's like oh
you're betting against yourself 

1823
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,500
like all three of those guys 
can't hit, like, guess what guys

1824
01:34:29,500 --> 01:34:32,700
if I like fifteenth sixteenth 
and eighteenth round picks. 

1825
01:34:32,700 --> 01:34:35,500
Don't all hit in the same week 
like I'm going to be okay. 

1826
01:34:35,500 --> 01:34:38,400
Like Pat one best Ball Mania 
with literally a second round 

1827
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,300
pick not counting towards his 
lineup. 

1828
01:34:40,300 --> 01:34:43,200
Like there's this weird 
perception with over stacking, I

1829
01:34:43,200 --> 01:34:46,100
think where it's like, oh you're
you're over correlating it can't

1830
01:34:46,100 --> 01:34:50,000
all work out like Like great 
that I understand, I understand 

1831
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:51,900
that. 
Like I'm not saying Daniel Jones

1832
01:34:51,900 --> 01:34:54,700
is going to throw to a hundred 
yards to each of Hodgins Slayton

1833
01:34:54,700 --> 01:34:58,500
Antoine de on a single game. 
It's about getting one or two of

1834
01:34:58,508 --> 01:35:01,200
those guys to hit your lineups 
at a very joint Austin. 

1835
01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:02,900
Yeah. 
Want problem is one? 

1836
01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,800
Yeah. 
If you're 15 16 and 18 round 

1837
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,300
pick of one of those guys hits 
in week. 17. 

1838
01:35:08,500 --> 01:35:10,000
Yeah. 
Or even week 15 or 16. 

1839
01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:14,100
I mean like Slayton scores a 
long touchdown, you know and 

1840
01:35:14,500 --> 01:35:19,500
like it's also nice to if you 
have Daniel Jones, you know 

1841
01:35:19,500 --> 01:35:20,700
right. 
Like you have Daniel Jones, 

1842
01:35:20,700 --> 01:35:24,000
Darren Waller and then you take 
like three stabs at Giants wide 

1843
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:26,100
receivers like that is truly an 
over stack. 

1844
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:32,700
But you get the the Giants score
points in week, 15, and Slayton 

1845
01:35:32,700 --> 01:35:35,900
happens to score a touchdown. 
You've got your starting 

1846
01:35:35,900 --> 01:35:38,800
quarterback taken care of your 
tight ends taken care of, and 

1847
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:44,200
you got a meaningful week out of
a very low value pick. 

1848
01:35:44,300 --> 01:35:46,700
I mean, we do not get many 
points out of these last round 

1849
01:35:46,700 --> 01:35:48,800
picks, you get. 
Something to hit your lineup out

1850
01:35:48,800 --> 01:35:49,900
of there. 
It's huge. 

1851
01:35:50,100 --> 01:35:53,600
So like yeah you played you 
played like sort of 

1852
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:56,400
conservatively in the end like 
saying I'm making a bet on the 

1853
01:35:56,407 --> 01:35:59,800
Giants and I'm going to 
sacrifice a few pics to make 

1854
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:03,800
this one bet but the payoff is 
still well worth that, you know,

1855
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:05,800
it's worth three dollars of your
team. 

1856
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:08,000
You know you spent three late 
round picks on the Giants. 

1857
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:11,000
It's like 34 dollars of draft 
Capital at of a 200 dollar 

1858
01:36:11,000 --> 01:36:12,900
budget if we were talking 
auction terms. 

1859
01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:16,500
Well if you get, if you get that
pay off that the Giants score 

1860
01:36:16,500 --> 01:36:19,500
points and one of those guys has
hit your If that's worth like 

1861
01:36:19,900 --> 01:36:22,800
that, the payoff on that for 
Dollar Bet is fucking huge. 

1862
01:36:23,100 --> 01:36:26,000
Yeah, yeah. 
And I so there's some people 

1863
01:36:26,000 --> 01:36:28,500
saying like, there's a huge 
price difference between like 

1864
01:36:28,500 --> 01:36:31,600
the Giants and Jax and I get I 
get that point of it. 

1865
01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,600
I don't disagree with that, that
like, I'm more inclined to do 

1866
01:36:34,900 --> 01:36:38,100
one of these Mega stacks on a 
team where all the wide 

1867
01:36:38,100 --> 01:36:41,600
receivers are very cheap. 
But like I also I'm I think 

1868
01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:44,100
verse the field, I'm still more 
comfortable with these Mega 

1869
01:36:44,100 --> 01:36:48,900
Stacks than other people are, 
because Like, okay, I take, I go

1870
01:36:48,900 --> 01:36:52,300
49ers, I'm not saying this is 
like ideal but I take, you know,

1871
01:36:52,300 --> 01:36:55,900
I you Debo and kettle on. 
The 49ers are each of those guys

1872
01:36:55,900 --> 01:36:59,300
going to hit their ceilings 
like, at the same time and one 

1873
01:36:59,300 --> 01:37:00,500
week. 
No. 

1874
01:37:00,500 --> 01:37:02,900
And did I spend a lot to like, 
get those guys? 

1875
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:06,500
Yes, I get that. 
But if the 49ers offense is 

1876
01:37:06,500 --> 01:37:10,900
firing down the stretch, I kind 
of like the idea of like Ayub 

1877
01:37:10,900 --> 01:37:13,200
doing nothing and weeks, 15 and 
16. 

1878
01:37:13,300 --> 01:37:16,300
But I'm carrying him to week 17 
because I'm betting on the 

1879
01:37:16,308 --> 01:37:17,300
stand. 
Cisco offense. 

1880
01:37:17,300 --> 01:37:21,000
Just firing and, you know, Debo 
and Killian those bike weeks and

1881
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:23,800
then I get to week, 17. 
It's like Kittle Chalk in the 

1882
01:37:23,800 --> 01:37:25,600
finals. 
Like it was last year, and I 

1883
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:28,200
have this like, correlated part 
of my bet that I'm like 

1884
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,200
intentionally sneaking through. 
Like, I think people 

1885
01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:34,000
misunderstand a little bit. 
Like, you could survive weeks, 

1886
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:37,200
15 and 16 with your fifth or 
sixth round pick contributing, 

1887
01:37:37,300 --> 01:37:39,700
like, nothing 15 or 16. 
Totally. 

1888
01:37:39,900 --> 01:37:41,900
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. 
You can. 

1889
01:37:42,800 --> 01:37:44,500
That's why this is such a fun 
game like you can. 

1890
01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:46,500
Yeah. 
And we saw that two years ago. 

1891
01:37:46,700 --> 01:37:50,400
With t Higgins and Jamar Chase. 
Chase being the guy you needed 

1892
01:37:50,900 --> 01:37:57,800
in the final but like you and 
you want to be conscious of like

1893
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:58,900
price. 
Yes. 

1894
01:37:58,900 --> 01:38:00,300
Yeah. 
And this offense actually 

1895
01:38:00,300 --> 01:38:04,400
support this many guys, but the 
49ers are a great example where 

1896
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:08,100
like I feel very first of all 
the price strikes me as just low

1897
01:38:08,100 --> 01:38:10,100
on all of them. 
Period. 

1898
01:38:10,200 --> 01:38:14,300
Yeah and then I you guys not 
like hammering right now but I 

1899
01:38:14,300 --> 01:38:16,200
think you could certainly make 
the case is underpriced. 

1900
01:38:16,600 --> 01:38:19,300
I like it ain't getting Rave 
rave reviews. 

1901
01:38:19,300 --> 01:38:22,900
He's getting rave reviews. 
All the all the guys are is 

1902
01:38:22,900 --> 01:38:26,100
actually a sneaky Riser on this 
chart which we can talk about. 

1903
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:28,400
So maybe because I haven't taken
a ton of him, he's the one that 

1904
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:32,400
I probably need to get a little 
bit more bullish on but but 

1905
01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:35,200
kid'll I mean, come on. 
You know you're getting him in 

1906
01:38:35,200 --> 01:38:39,300
the sixth round like a middle is
a layup. 

1907
01:38:39,700 --> 01:38:42,200
Yeah, I like both running backs.
You know, I'm happy to take 

1908
01:38:42,200 --> 01:38:46,500
McCaffrey at 3 and if he falls 
for five, I love that Mitchell. 

1909
01:38:46,700 --> 01:38:48,400
Is one. 
My favorite Targets in that? 

1910
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:51,400
Yeah, double digit range. 
So is there a third running 

1911
01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:52,400
back? 
We should be taken. 

1912
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:55,600
I mean, there's like, Syria and 
Iraq alive. 

1913
01:38:55,600 --> 01:38:58,200
I mean, close your eyes. 
It's week, five. 

1914
01:38:58,500 --> 01:39:00,100
Elijah Mitchell's turned his 
ankle. 

1915
01:39:00,300 --> 01:39:04,000
It's a Wednesday night episode 
of ship chasing Peter over zet 

1916
01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:07,300
is telling crane not to say 
exactly how much they're bidding

1917
01:39:07,300 --> 01:39:09,800
on Jordan Mason because it's 
over 400 f f. 

1918
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:13,000
PC free agency dollars, right? 
Like you could do not emit 

1919
01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:14,200
revert. 
The only thing you didn't get 

1920
01:39:14,200 --> 01:39:16,200
right there is that I'm yelling 
at P0. 

1921
01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:18,100
That's right, that's right. 
That's right. 

1922
01:39:18,100 --> 01:39:21,600
Yeah, like it's just you but you
can see that like you just it's 

1923
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,700
right there. 
And then the next happening, the

1924
01:39:23,700 --> 01:39:27,900
next stage of that is you spend 
$400 in Jordan, Mason Thursday, 

1925
01:39:27,900 --> 01:39:30,000
you get the rotor World blurb, 
that they signed to Tevin 

1926
01:39:30,000 --> 01:39:33,300
Coleman to a contract and he's 
the guy you need. 

1927
01:39:33,600 --> 01:39:35,100
That's, that's definitely a 
next. 

1928
01:39:35,100 --> 01:39:36,200
The next thing that well you 
need. 

1929
01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:48,600
You just like yeah, right. 
Yeah, Kevin Kevin Coleman had 12

1930
01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,900
carries in three targets and two
touchdowns as a member of the 

1931
01:39:51,900 --> 01:39:54,100
49ers last season. 
That's crazy. 

1932
01:39:54,900 --> 01:39:57,300
That's what's always. 
So funny is like, you, you 

1933
01:39:57,300 --> 01:39:59,900
always under eight, how many of 
these Veteran running backs? 

1934
01:39:59,900 --> 01:40:03,400
Like truly show up from the 
great like latavius Murray had 

1935
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:06,400
like legit Spike weeks down the 
stretch last year for the Denver

1936
01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,200
Broncos. 
And, and by the way, he's on the

1937
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:11,600
bills right now he'll probably 
be cut from the bills but he's 

1938
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,900
showing back up on someone's 
team this year. 

1939
01:40:14,500 --> 01:40:16,000
That's why I keep taking for 
next time. 

1940
01:40:16,000 --> 01:40:19,400
He's the The first of those guys
that I think Hunt is the pure 

1941
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:20,900
cheapest, but I'm a little bit 
more worried about him. 

1942
01:40:20,907 --> 01:40:23,700
But I probably it's an argument 
for taking hunt to like the 

1943
01:40:23,700 --> 01:40:25,900
NFL's chaotic. 
These guys are gonna going to 

1944
01:40:25,900 --> 01:40:28,800
get snaps from these guys. 
That teams historically have 

1945
01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:32,300
trusted. 
Like I think I think it's under 

1946
01:40:32,300 --> 01:40:34,800
it even like latavius, you want 
to spend 18 that are PW heaviest

1947
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,200
Marie. 
I'm not doing it. 

1948
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:39,200
It's certainly disgusting but 
like he's so old. 

1949
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:40,900
That makes it tough. 
It's so old. 

1950
01:40:40,900 --> 01:40:42,200
Yeah. 
But it's like, he's just a guy 

1951
01:40:42,200 --> 01:40:45,900
that coaches trust like even 
last year you already got 

1952
01:40:45,900 --> 01:40:47,800
worried. 
Got more guaranteed money than 

1953
01:40:47,800 --> 01:40:50,000
Damien Harris, which is the 
weirdest part of this whole 

1954
01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:51,800
bills thing. 
I do not understand how that 

1955
01:40:51,800 --> 01:41:00,100
happened but he did. 
Anyways, I want to talk about 

1956
01:41:00,100 --> 01:41:02,600
this chart quickly. 
So, you guys have seen this 

1957
01:41:02,600 --> 01:41:05,300
positional ADP chart, that we've
done a bunch. 

1958
01:41:05,300 --> 01:41:08,300
I just took a slightly different
look at it. 

1959
01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,300
And so, starting with the 
running backs, what this chart 

1960
01:41:11,300 --> 01:41:14,300
is showing, it's a little 
complicated, but it's showing 

1961
01:41:14,300 --> 01:41:18,700
these green bars here. 
Or the year-over-year difference

1962
01:41:18,900 --> 01:41:24,600
in running back position Ali DP.
So so look at this - to here on 

1963
01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,400
the far left side. 
This means that negative 2 means

1964
01:41:27,400 --> 01:41:30,700
the rb1 last year Christian 
McCaffrey was going at pick one 

1965
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:35,100
overall and this year he's going
at pick three, right? 

1966
01:41:35,100 --> 01:41:40,000
So that's a two spot difference 
in positional ADP first last 

1967
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:43,500
year. 
So what I kind of wanted to show

1968
01:41:43,500 --> 01:41:47,800
here is just like we hear a lot 
about how the Running backs are 

1969
01:41:48,100 --> 01:41:51,000
a lot cheaper than they were 
last year, but I think it is 

1970
01:41:51,000 --> 01:41:56,400
sort of important to note like 
where they are most cheaper 

1971
01:41:56,600 --> 01:41:59,700
versus last year, versus where 
they're actually kind of like 

1972
01:41:59,700 --> 01:42:01,500
similar. 
Just so we can understand like 

1973
01:42:01,500 --> 01:42:05,500
how this year's draft landscape 
is reacting to last year's 

1974
01:42:05,500 --> 01:42:07,600
results. 
And I think there is sort of 

1975
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:11,800
this clear Trend, where you look
at this like pink box here 

1976
01:42:11,800 --> 01:42:16,800
running backs to through 17. 
So that's everyone from Austin 

1977
01:42:16,800 --> 01:42:20,900
Eckler at running back to to 
Aaron Jones at running back 17. 

1978
01:42:22,100 --> 01:42:24,700
Those are the guys that are 
going significantly cheaper than

1979
01:42:24,700 --> 01:42:26,500
last year. 
So it's some of the guys in the 

1980
01:42:26,500 --> 01:42:29,400
two, three turn. 
It's your room Andres briefs 

1981
01:42:29,400 --> 01:42:31,900
etcetera, group in there. 
And then also sort of like, the 

1982
01:42:31,900 --> 01:42:33,900
early Dead Zone, guys are going 
much deeper. 

1983
01:42:35,300 --> 01:42:38,500
But then like, look at this blue
box here, running backs, 30 

1984
01:42:38,500 --> 01:42:44,000
3249, those guys are on average,
just two picks cheaper a 2022 

1985
01:42:44,200 --> 01:42:46,400
and though that's a range we're 
running backs historically. 

1986
01:42:46,600 --> 01:42:48,900
Mash, that's where we saw. 
You know, Kenneth Walker last 

1987
01:42:48,900 --> 01:42:51,800
year, am Andre last year all 
these guys that were major 

1988
01:42:51,800 --> 01:42:55,100
smashes and that range but 
they're actually not cheaper, 

1989
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:58,700
really this year compared to 
last year, if you certainly are 

1990
01:42:58,700 --> 01:43:01,800
a little bit a little bit, but 
if you average that whole group,

1991
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:04,000
right? 
And like this was arbitrary 

1992
01:43:04,000 --> 01:43:06,700
ranges, like you could, you 
could pick it differently but 

1993
01:43:06,700 --> 01:43:11,100
they're not as cheaper as the 
the early round running backs 

1994
01:43:11,100 --> 01:43:12,800
are, is the point I'm trying to 
make. 

1995
01:43:12,900 --> 01:43:17,000
So, like everyone, everyone is 
kind of like doing Being the 

1996
01:43:17,000 --> 01:43:19,900
strategy of like fade thoroughly
running backs. 

1997
01:43:19,900 --> 01:43:22,600
And then I'm going to catch up 
with these, like, 0r B Targets 

1998
01:43:22,600 --> 01:43:24,300
later. 
Like, are they doing it? 

1999
01:43:24,300 --> 01:43:26,900
Is everyone doing that? 
I'm not seeing a lot of that, 

2000
01:43:27,100 --> 01:43:28,400
and that's not really what I'm 
doing. 

2001
01:43:29,900 --> 01:43:31,100
The ball. 
I don't know what you're doing, 

2002
01:43:31,200 --> 01:43:35,000
but I'm just saying 80 like a 
teepee wise here. 

2003
01:43:35,000 --> 01:43:40,900
The like, here's the fact like 
running backs to through 17 R11 

2004
01:43:40,900 --> 01:43:43,100
picks cheaper than they were in 
2022. 

2005
01:43:43,500 --> 01:43:47,200
Running backs 33 through 49 or 
two picks cheaper so it's like a

2006
01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,500
full round cheaper first like 
two picks cheaper. 

2007
01:43:50,600 --> 01:43:53,200
That's the point. 
I'm trying to make is that like 

2008
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:58,000
I'm not this doesn't mean that 
like you have to like search for

2009
01:43:58,000 --> 01:44:01,800
the guys that are Ranges that 
are most cheaper verse last 

2010
01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:02,700
year. 
And that's what you should be 

2011
01:44:02,700 --> 01:44:03,700
targeting. 
I'm not saying that's a 

2012
01:44:03,700 --> 01:44:06,800
strategy, I'm just saying like 
that's how drafters are reacting

2013
01:44:07,000 --> 01:44:09,100
to the draft landscape. 
This year's there, they're 

2014
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:14,400
saying let's fade like the the 
early, or the late rb1, early 

2015
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:19,500
rb2 prices like significantly. 
Let's like slightly, Faith are 

2016
01:44:19,500 --> 01:44:22,500
saying let's let's not draft, 
the RV ones, as early as we did 

2017
01:44:22,500 --> 01:44:24,900
last year. 
I think is yes, they're not 

2018
01:44:24,900 --> 01:44:27,300
necessarily fading. 
Because what is happening is 

2019
01:44:27,300 --> 01:44:30,900
these guys are being selected. 
And I think what might be 

2020
01:44:30,907 --> 01:44:35,900
happening as well, is that I 
actually don't maybe like Hayden

2021
01:44:35,900 --> 01:44:39,000
or someone could put this 
together, but my guess is that 

2022
01:44:39,300 --> 01:44:43,900
our bees are being drafted on a 
greater number of teams through 

2023
01:44:43,900 --> 01:44:47,900
the early rounds than last year.
That like, if you look at how 

2024
01:44:47,900 --> 01:44:51,600
many teams running back. 
Yeah, a higher. 

2025
01:44:51,600 --> 01:44:54,500
Number of them have an early 
round running back this year 

2026
01:44:54,500 --> 01:44:58,500
than last year. 
So I went I think Like if there 

2027
01:44:58,500 --> 01:45:01,500
are 12 teams of it early round 
running back this year versus 

2028
01:45:01,500 --> 01:45:04,100
last year. 
If there's 12 teams in a draft, 

2029
01:45:04,100 --> 01:45:06,800
right? 
Then I don't know last year, 

2030
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:10,700
let's say like seven of them had
an early round running back. 

2031
01:45:11,100 --> 01:45:12,600
How are you defining, maybe 
that's too low. 

2032
01:45:13,800 --> 01:45:16,000
But around this radios. 
Yeah, yeah, sure. 

2033
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,000
You rounds. 
One runs one through three. 

2034
01:45:19,400 --> 01:45:21,900
Okay. 
How many of these teams have an 

2035
01:45:21,900 --> 01:45:23,700
early? 
Have a running back through the 

2036
01:45:23,700 --> 01:45:28,600
first three rounds? 
I would, I would guess that more

2037
01:45:28,600 --> 01:45:33,800
of the 12 teams have at least 
one running back for the through

2038
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:35,700
the first three rounds than last
year. 

2039
01:45:35,900 --> 01:45:39,600
That like on average, probably 
like Ten teams have at least one

2040
01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:41,600
running back. 
Now, maybe it was only nine last

2041
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:45,900
year, something like that. 
Because it's it's easy. 

2042
01:45:45,900 --> 01:45:49,800
It's just easy to take these 
guys and maybe I don't take too 

2043
01:45:50,100 --> 01:45:53,900
but I'm way more comfortable, 
taking one just from personal 

2044
01:45:53,900 --> 01:45:56,700
experience, I have a lot more 
teams that have at least one 

2045
01:45:56,700 --> 01:45:58,800
running back through the first 
three rounds than I did last 

2046
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:00,300
year. 
So Pat, I think like maybe where

2047
01:46:00,300 --> 01:46:03,400
the where I'm getting lost. 
There's I agree with you that 

2048
01:46:03,400 --> 01:46:06,700
like me as a drafter. 
I have more early-round running 

2049
01:46:06,700 --> 01:46:11,200
back teams than I do last year 
and I like I understand that you

2050
01:46:11,200 --> 01:46:15,000
do as well, but I'm pretty 
skeptical that On average more 

2051
01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:19,100
people up early running back 
teams this year than last year 

2052
01:46:19,100 --> 01:46:22,300
because last year, there were 
like 20 running backs going in 

2053
01:46:22,300 --> 01:46:25,500
the first three rounds and this 
year, they're like 12. 

2054
01:46:25,700 --> 01:46:28,000
It's like I have a really if 
you're defining earlier on 

2055
01:46:28,008 --> 01:46:31,300
running back, is the first three
rounds like nearly twice. 

2056
01:46:31,300 --> 01:46:34,100
As many running backs, we going 
in the first three rounds last 

2057
01:46:34,100 --> 01:46:36,900
year compared to this year, so, 
like I'm pretty, I'm pretty 

2058
01:46:36,900 --> 01:46:38,800
skeptical that that's that, 
that's true. 

2059
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:41,300
Like, I don't actually have that
good enough for my, you right. 

2060
01:46:41,300 --> 01:46:45,000
It might not be true, but I 
think what, But the biggest hit 

2061
01:46:45,200 --> 01:46:51,100
to drafting style has been going
three like going three running 

2062
01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:53,700
backs. 
You know, going it's a much 

2063
01:46:53,700 --> 01:46:57,300
harder to go to running back. 
So I think the biggest thing 

2064
01:46:57,700 --> 01:47:00,800
with what is causing, this is 
not that there's a bunch of 

2065
01:47:00,800 --> 01:47:03,100
people. 
Fading all early round running 

2066
01:47:03,100 --> 01:47:05,500
backs. 
Certainly that there are people 

2067
01:47:05,500 --> 01:47:07,900
going 0 running back but I think
relative to last year. 

2068
01:47:09,100 --> 01:47:12,000
I don't know. 
I it's like tough for me to see 

2069
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,600
that being the main driver of 
this. 

2070
01:47:14,600 --> 01:47:18,900
I think that what is more likely
the main driver is that more 

2071
01:47:18,900 --> 01:47:23,100
teams are just doing one or just
doing to that might have 

2072
01:47:23,100 --> 01:47:27,000
otherwise done three and that 
you're seeing thinner running 

2073
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:31,500
back rooms, maybe not a ton of 
Zero running back rooms relative

2074
01:47:31,500 --> 01:47:34,200
to the number of 01, back teams 
last year. 

2075
01:47:35,500 --> 01:47:37,700
Yeah. 
I mean it could be possible that

2076
01:47:37,700 --> 01:47:42,800
there's more, there's more one 
running back teams this year and

2077
01:47:43,700 --> 01:47:46,300
yeah, like I see your point. 
There's a way to like make the 

2078
01:47:46,300 --> 01:47:49,600
math work out but like I don't 
know, like Zero running by 

2079
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,300
things could be up for sure. 
But I guess what I would say is 

2080
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:57,300
if they are up my guess is that 
like One running back teams are 

2081
01:47:57,300 --> 01:48:00,600
also up like to two and three. 
Running back teams must be down.

2082
01:48:00,800 --> 01:48:02,800
They must be down significantly.
Yes you. 

2083
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:06,700
That's that's what I'm saying. 
Yeah to is like has to be down 

2084
01:48:06,700 --> 01:48:09,600
and that's like maybe part of 
the reason why I've been looking

2085
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,900
at this. 
I also looked at Chad Mash key 

2086
01:48:12,900 --> 01:48:15,800
could be messing up his last 
name there but he did some work 

2087
01:48:15,800 --> 01:48:18,400
in the badge Bros Discord where 
it pulled a bunch of data 

2088
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:21,000
together and I was looking at to
running back starts because I 

2089
01:48:21,008 --> 01:48:24,400
kept hearing like, oh, you know,
taking running backs in rounds 

2090
01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:25,700
two and three is becoming like 
the chalk. 

2091
01:48:25,800 --> 01:48:27,700
Build. 
I'm like, mathematically, that 

2092
01:48:27,700 --> 01:48:29,600
that can't be true. 
If they're right, well, running 

2093
01:48:29,600 --> 01:48:30,900
backs going in the first three 
rounds. 

2094
01:48:30,900 --> 01:48:33,500
So, like, I want to push back 
against that, like, wide 

2095
01:48:33,500 --> 01:48:36,400
receiver wide receiver wide 
receiver, a great, a great 

2096
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:41,400
lesson that screenshots of teams
on Twitter are not attempt the 

2097
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,500
temperature taker of the market,
right, right. 

2098
01:48:44,800 --> 01:48:47,300
What did you guys find that? 
So wide receiver wide receiver 

2099
01:48:47,300 --> 01:48:52,200
wide receiver is that chakir 
than wide receiver, two wide 

2100
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,000
receivers in a running back 
through the first three. 

2101
01:48:54,900 --> 01:48:57,900
No, that feels like no stop. 
That's killed. 

2102
01:48:57,900 --> 01:48:59,400
Right. 
One leg doctor three. 

2103
01:48:59,700 --> 01:49:02,000
Yeah, one running back through. 
Three is certainly the most 

2104
01:49:02,000 --> 01:49:07,800
popular, but three wide 
receivers is more popular than 

2105
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:09,500
wide receiver running back 
running back. 

2106
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,100
Okay. 
Yeah, it might not be it's and 

2107
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:14,600
it's probably I didn't quite cut
the numbers this way. 

2108
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:17,600
Like to running just two running
backs. 

2109
01:49:17,600 --> 01:49:19,600
No matter where you took get. 
It could be round one and round 

2110
01:49:19,600 --> 01:49:23,300
three, round one and round two, 
that's probably slightly more 

2111
01:49:23,300 --> 01:49:24,400
popular than three wide 
receivers. 

2112
01:49:24,500 --> 01:49:27,300
Purrs but it's actually quite 
close which makes sense right. 

2113
01:49:27,300 --> 01:49:31,100
Like if there's if there's any 
teen, there's 18 wide receivers 

2114
01:49:31,100 --> 01:49:34,300
like go on the first three 
rounds, there's 12 running backs

2115
01:49:34,500 --> 01:49:38,000
so that means on average teams 
are taking one running back, 

2116
01:49:38,000 --> 01:49:41,600
just like 12 divided by 12 and 
one and a half wide receivers. 

2117
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:44,300
So like it should be true that 
the odds of like taking three 

2118
01:49:44,300 --> 01:49:47,300
wide receivers and two running 
backs is like clothes. 

2119
01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:50,400
I'm making some jumps in logic 
there but you maybe get the 

2120
01:49:50,400 --> 01:49:54,400
general point of that so yeah. 
Yeah. 

2121
01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:57,600
Two different drought-like. 
Anyways, I think there's a lot 

2122
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:00,000
more work to like thinking about
these numbers and we're at an 

2123
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:03,100
hour 50 now. 
So like will skip through this 

2124
01:50:03,100 --> 01:50:04,600
for now unless people are other 
points. 

2125
01:50:04,600 --> 01:50:06,000
But I think it's just 
interesting. 

2126
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:09,300
Like when you're thinking about 
where you're Drafting and you're

2127
01:50:09,300 --> 01:50:12,200
thinking about getting discounts
this year, based on how the 

2128
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:14,700
draft rooms are overreacting, 
like, think about a little bit 

2129
01:50:14,700 --> 01:50:17,200
where you're getting the biggest
discounts not. 

2130
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:19,100
So, I've got it entire strategy 
on that. 

2131
01:50:19,100 --> 01:50:22,200
But think about it a little bit,
I've got a great, I've got a 

2132
01:50:22,208 --> 01:50:25,400
great anecdote to really 
illustrate Rate this entire 

2133
01:50:25,400 --> 01:50:29,400
thing. 
Chris olave was the number 12 

2134
01:50:29,400 --> 01:50:35,500
overall 10th, or he's top 10 ish
pick and the actual NFL draft 

2135
01:50:35,500 --> 01:50:38,700
last year. 
Jackson, put that big boat was 

2136
01:50:38,900 --> 01:50:41,600
the 20th pick in this year's 
draft. 

2137
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:45,800
Think a lot of it was like 12th 
or 13th and 12th 12th sounds. 

2138
01:50:45,800 --> 01:50:47,200
Right, let's call it 12. 
Let's call. 

2139
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:50,700
It was just a matter for this 
anecdote, very high NFL draft 

2140
01:50:50,700 --> 01:50:53,800
pick, his team, really wanted 
him jack it up the bonds to get 

2141
01:50:53,800 --> 01:50:55,900
him trained. 
To like multiple first projects 

2142
01:50:55,900 --> 01:51:00,400
together, yes Jackson Smith and 
jig but actually fell way later 

2143
01:51:00,800 --> 01:51:05,000
than NFL draft prognosticators. 
Thought to a team with two 

2144
01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:09,100
really good wide receivers with 
basically no injury history. 

2145
01:51:09,400 --> 01:51:12,100
Lock, it is missed a couple 
games here and there Metcalfe, I

2146
01:51:12,100 --> 01:51:16,000
believe has has never missed a 
game since coming in to the NFL 

2147
01:51:16,500 --> 01:51:21,500
and he's going about 35 spots in
just raw a BP. 

2148
01:51:22,700 --> 01:51:24,400
I had to wear a lot of it went 
last year. 

2149
01:51:24,500 --> 01:51:30,300
Like yeah, like people are just 
people the the piss boy, cabal 

2150
01:51:30,400 --> 01:51:33,700
loves wide receivers and they 
really love rookie wide 

2151
01:51:33,700 --> 01:51:39,400
receivers to the point that like
I don't want to have 0 JS, n but

2152
01:51:39,400 --> 01:51:42,900
trying to tell yourself a story 
where Jackson Smith and Jake but

2153
01:51:42,900 --> 01:51:47,000
has an advanced rate above 
average of above 8.3% without 

2154
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:49,600
locket or Metcalf getting hurt. 
You literally can't. 

2155
01:51:49,900 --> 01:51:51,600
There's no math. 
You can do come. 

2156
01:51:52,400 --> 01:51:54,700
I know you love. 
You love Smith and I know that 

2157
01:51:54,700 --> 01:51:58,400
you can tell me that. 
Tell me the tell me the math 

2158
01:51:58,400 --> 01:52:02,700
based story. 
Where sixth round, jsn going 

2159
01:52:02,700 --> 01:52:04,900
ahead of Tyler. 
Lockett has an advanced rate 

2160
01:52:04,900 --> 01:52:07,100
above 8.3%. 
I think he also you could even 

2161
01:52:07,100 --> 01:52:09,400
say fifth round. 
He's going at pick 59. 

2162
01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,500
Now, he's on the fireplace, 
fifth during. 

2163
01:52:11,500 --> 01:52:12,800
Yeah, it's technically fifth 
round. 

2164
01:52:13,100 --> 01:52:15,500
Yeah, it's definitely tougher in
the fifth round but I think in 

2165
01:52:15,500 --> 01:52:20,000
the sixth round he plays a lot. 
They play more three wide 

2166
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:23,200
receiver sets than expected. 
He get Did an extremely high 

2167
01:52:23,200 --> 01:52:25,700
rate went on the field, which 
seems extremely plausible to me,

2168
01:52:25,700 --> 01:52:29,000
given that he gets open really 
quickly and, you know, Smith 

2169
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:31,300
likes to throw short, and he's 
very accurate to the short area 

2170
01:52:31,800 --> 01:52:36,400
and he doesn't like pass Tyler 
Lockett into wide receiver sets,

2171
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,900
but he's not a pure slot 
receiver. 

2172
01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,200
They are willing to move him to 
the outside, they're willing to 

2173
01:52:41,200 --> 01:52:44,700
move them around the formation 
and they are willing to have 

2174
01:52:44,700 --> 01:52:47,900
Tyler Lockett, not run every 
single route in order to get jsn

2175
01:52:47,900 --> 01:52:51,500
on the field Beyond just kind of
a pure slot receiver level of 

2176
01:52:51,500 --> 01:52:54,000
routes. 
Infuse in that type of situation

2177
01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:55,800
in earning targets at a really 
high rate. 

2178
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:59,800
Then you can easily have an 
above-average advance rate and 

2179
01:52:59,800 --> 01:53:03,100
then, yeah. 
In the in the playoffs you it 

2180
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:05,900
really would be nice if it's 
down to him or mecca for him or 

2181
01:53:05,900 --> 01:53:09,900
lock it or or if he just at that
point, Tyler lock, it's 30 years

2182
01:53:09,900 --> 01:53:12,400
old, whatever, he passes him by 
the end of the season. 

2183
01:53:12,700 --> 01:53:16,500
That that, I think I'd the 
reason to take jsn has almost 

2184
01:53:16,500 --> 01:53:17,600
nothing to do with Advanced, 
right? 

2185
01:53:17,600 --> 01:53:19,900
For me, it's all about, it's all
about him. 

2186
01:53:19,900 --> 01:53:23,200
Turning into a Montross, a brown
and the plastic, Reason to take 

2187
01:53:23,200 --> 01:53:26,000
him but I think he can do that 
and have an above average 

2188
01:53:26,000 --> 01:53:28,200
Advanced, right? 
These are these are the target 

2189
01:53:28,200 --> 01:53:30,200
totals for the third leading 
Target. 

2190
01:53:30,200 --> 01:53:32,400
You like 10% Pete, Carroll 
offenses. 

2191
01:53:32,900 --> 01:53:38,800
Third last year. 
Noah Fant 1863, 2021 Gerald 

2192
01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:47,200
Everett with 63 2020. 
We got David Moore with 47 2019.

2193
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:51,300
We've got Jacob Hollister with 
59, the point being, this would 

2194
01:53:51,300 --> 01:53:54,900
be a huge. 
Huge break from the way the 

2195
01:53:54,900 --> 01:53:57,200
Seahawks had played. 
Now, you want to get down to 

2196
01:53:57,200 --> 01:54:00,500
brass tacks. 
You can say their third tight 

2197
01:54:00,500 --> 01:54:02,900
end played 44% of the snaps last
season. 

2198
01:54:03,300 --> 01:54:06,400
Colby Parkinson, played 44% of 
the Seahawks, snaps Marquis 

2199
01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:10,800
Goodwin played about 35%, Dwayne
Eskridge played about 15%, given

2200
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:15,000
Goodwin snaps, take half from 
the fourth wide receiver, take 

2201
01:54:15,000 --> 01:54:17,600
half from the second tight end 
from the third tight end. 

2202
01:54:18,000 --> 01:54:21,200
And all of a sudden you're up to
like the same snaps, you'd 

2203
01:54:21,200 --> 01:54:22,300
expect from like Quinton 
Johnson. 

2204
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:24,800
Then or whatever. 
Yeah, the other thing that I 

2205
01:54:24,800 --> 01:54:29,300
would say to is that with these 
highly condensed offenses, you 

2206
01:54:29,300 --> 01:54:32,000
can read that. 
Is this offense, only has enough

2207
01:54:32,100 --> 01:54:36,700
room for two guys or these 
coaches believe in getting their

2208
01:54:36,700 --> 01:54:40,600
best Playmakers. 
The ball like does do the 

2209
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:43,800
Dolphins, does that flow through
waddle and Tyree kill because 

2210
01:54:43,900 --> 01:54:47,600
Mike McDaniels, like been unable
to get other people to ball 

2211
01:54:47,600 --> 01:54:50,400
like, or because he doesn't want
to get other people to ball. 

2212
01:54:50,400 --> 01:54:53,400
He wants to get waddlin Tyree. 
Kill as many targets as he 

2213
01:54:53,400 --> 01:54:58,700
possibly can. 
So if J SN is really good, which

2214
01:54:58,700 --> 01:55:02,100
is the whole bet, the whole bed 
is that he's awesome so far, so 

2215
01:55:02,100 --> 01:55:05,300
good on that front, he's having 
really good training or OT a 

2216
01:55:05,300 --> 01:55:07,000
reports. 
They talk about how they are 

2217
01:55:07,000 --> 01:55:09,400
playing. 
Some on the outside already DK. 

2218
01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:12,100
Metcalf was talking up. 
What a professionally is there? 

2219
01:55:12,100 --> 01:55:14,100
Like we just need to give him a 
Playbook like he has everything 

2220
01:55:14,100 --> 01:55:15,100
down. 
He just needs to learn all the 

2221
01:55:15,100 --> 01:55:16,100
plays. 
He's going to be hitting the 

2222
01:55:16,108 --> 01:55:18,000
ground running. 
It's exactly what you want to 

2223
01:55:18,008 --> 01:55:21,900
hear because jsn that's the bet 
the bet is he's a Ultra 

2224
01:55:21,900 --> 01:55:23,800
professional. 
My receiver despite being a 

2225
01:55:23,808 --> 01:55:27,200
rookie he's going to be able to 
have incredible route running 

2226
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:30,000
technique out of the gate. 
Get open immediately earned 

2227
01:55:30,000 --> 01:55:32,300
targets at a high rate so far so
good. 

2228
01:55:33,800 --> 01:55:36,200
It's not like I do think the 
market has done a good job and 

2229
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:40,600
pricing in the upside here but I
don't think that he couldn't 

2230
01:55:40,600 --> 01:55:43,400
have an above-average advance or
a even if he mostly is just that

2231
01:55:43,400 --> 01:55:45,300
end of the season play like a 
guy. 

2232
01:55:45,300 --> 01:55:49,600
I think he probably would be 
like 18% Advance rate in a in an

2233
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:52,200
upside scenario, like I think 
it'll be slightly above average.

2234
01:55:52,300 --> 01:55:57,100
Average. 
But yeah, I'll, I guess like I'm

2235
01:55:57,100 --> 01:55:59,900
fading jsn on Underdog and I get
all your. 

2236
01:55:59,900 --> 01:56:02,700
I like Patty made all good 
arguments like I don't like, I 

2237
01:56:02,700 --> 01:56:04,700
don't disagree with the thesis 
of what you're saying. 

2238
01:56:04,700 --> 01:56:07,100
But to me, there's a couple 
things. 

2239
01:56:07,100 --> 01:56:09,900
One DraftKings, you can get them
like a full round cheaper in 

2240
01:56:09,900 --> 01:56:12,900
PPR. 
He strikes me as like even two 

2241
01:56:12,900 --> 01:56:15,100
rounds cheaper something? 
Yeah, he strikes me as a guy 

2242
01:56:15,100 --> 01:56:18,900
that pays off more in PPR than 
he doesn't have PPR for sure. 

2243
01:56:19,100 --> 01:56:21,300
And to me it's just in the fifth
round. 

2244
01:56:21,300 --> 01:56:23,700
It's too much of a Parlay that I
have to hit. 

2245
01:56:23,700 --> 01:56:25,900
I have to, he has to be really 
good. 

2246
01:56:26,100 --> 01:56:29,500
He also has to be really good 
and better than Tyler Lockett 

2247
01:56:29,500 --> 01:56:32,400
and DK Metcalf at like winning 
on the outside. 

2248
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:36,900
He has to like Geno Smith has to
continue his outlier performance

2249
01:56:36,900 --> 01:56:40,500
from last year. 
Like and also I don't know, this

2250
01:56:40,500 --> 01:56:42,800
is kind of, this isn't a fourth 
thing is it's baked into what I 

2251
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:44,700
originally said. 
But we're wrong about these 

2252
01:56:44,700 --> 01:56:48,000
rookie wide receivers all the 
time especially in how they're 

2253
01:56:48,000 --> 01:56:52,000
going to produce in year one and
like I don't know man. 

2254
01:56:52,000 --> 01:56:57,100
Like Like it's just when I know 
I can get him to rounds cheaper 

2255
01:56:57,100 --> 01:57:00,000
on other websites. 
Like I just I don't see any 

2256
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,200
reason to draft him. 
I had some of these veterans 

2257
01:57:02,200 --> 01:57:04,800
that I know are going to be 
playing and I know are good at 

2258
01:57:04,808 --> 01:57:06,700
football. 
I'm not saying I think Jason's a

2259
01:57:06,708 --> 01:57:10,100
bad Prospect, not saying he's 
going to be bad but like the 

2260
01:57:10,100 --> 01:57:12,400
price doesn't make any sense to 
me and like I don't see any 

2261
01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:18,300
reason to take him on Underdog 
but listen if you want to just 

2262
01:57:18,300 --> 01:57:21,000
load up on DraftKings, I think 
that's a really sharp way to 

2263
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:23,700
play this. 
I think the underdog price is 

2264
01:57:23,700 --> 01:57:26,600
more efficient. 
I think it's because why should 

2265
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:30,600
you get the upside that he 
offers late season is if that 

2266
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:33,000
isn't what we're playing for? 
Why should you get that for 

2267
01:57:33,000 --> 01:57:35,000
free? 
You should have to pay for that?

2268
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:36,800
I don't know. 
Like I just think that like he 

2269
01:57:36,800 --> 01:57:39,400
could be really good and like we
could like we could be right 

2270
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:44,000
about liking him as a prospect, 
but we get to week 17 and he's 

2271
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:49,400
slot, only, he runs 60% of 
routes, I don't like I just 

2272
01:57:49,400 --> 01:57:52,300
think those areas like our, I 
think those that's like the 

2273
01:57:52,308 --> 01:57:54,200
median scenario. 
Like I think people are under 

2274
01:57:54,200 --> 01:58:00,200
rating lock it here, but I think
you're gonna like it. 

2275
01:58:00,500 --> 01:58:03,200
I take a lot of walk it to 
markets to me. 

2276
01:58:03,200 --> 01:58:06,800
The guy I don't think Metcalf. 
Is it all appropriately priced. 

2277
01:58:06,800 --> 01:58:10,400
The idea of taking a third round
Metcalf to me is like I just 

2278
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:13,100
have I don't I don't know that. 
I've drafted him like I think 

2279
01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:18,500
he's he is priced in correctly 
so that that It's the one where 

2280
01:58:18,500 --> 01:58:21,500
I love, I love taking Lockett 
where he goes, and I will take 

2281
01:58:21,500 --> 01:58:25,400
locket / JS n especially if I if
he's like my wide receiver 

2282
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:27,700
three. 
You know, if I've taken enough 

2283
01:58:27,700 --> 01:58:31,500
detours where I am now, I've 
already taken 3D tours through 

2284
01:58:31,900 --> 01:58:35,300
five rounds, round, six and 
lockets. 

2285
01:58:35,300 --> 01:58:37,200
They're like I'm I'm smashing 
lock it. 

2286
01:58:37,300 --> 01:58:40,200
You know, even / JS n. 
So I need a professional wide 

2287
01:58:40,200 --> 01:58:46,300
receiver but yeah, I think jsn 
does does offer quite a bit of 

2288
01:58:46,300 --> 01:58:48,500
late season upside so. 
That should be priced in. 

2289
01:58:50,100 --> 01:58:56,500
Yeah, that's fair. 
Anyways, I've taken to DK 

2290
01:58:56,500 --> 01:59:00,300
metcalf's I've taken it looks 
like I took a somehow, I got 217

2291
01:59:00,300 --> 01:59:04,200
dollars on DK. 
Metcalf ticket % DK. 

2292
01:59:04,200 --> 01:59:07,300
Metcalfe is in the range. 
Wait you have the 2 % DK 

2293
01:59:07,300 --> 01:59:10,100
Metcalf? 
Yeah I looks like two puppies in

2294
01:59:10,100 --> 01:59:12,200
a poodle I've taken DK. 
My calf dude. 

2295
01:59:12,200 --> 01:59:14,100
Have fun staying poor. 
What are what? 

2296
01:59:14,100 --> 01:59:17,300
I think it's honestly he might 
be the worst price wide receiver

2297
01:59:17,300 --> 01:59:21,700
in the on the market. 
He's good, he's not. 

2298
01:59:21,700 --> 01:59:24,400
I mean come on dude. 
Fucking man. 

2299
01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:29,900
He looks great. 
But like you're getting your 

2300
01:59:29,900 --> 01:59:33,100
having to pay up for this. 
This crowded wide receiver room 

2301
01:59:33,100 --> 01:59:34,500
you having to pay third round 
price. 

2302
01:59:34,500 --> 01:59:36,800
I can get a fifth or sixth round
guy it's filling. 

2303
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,900
This is this is we just are so 
we're just fundamentally 

2304
01:59:39,900 --> 01:59:43,300
divorced on what we think. 
Jsn is going to get targeted 

2305
01:59:43,300 --> 01:59:45,200
that. 
So so of course, LACMA cats 

2306
01:59:45,200 --> 01:59:49,500
horrible for you. 
I mean, dude, like which got a 

2307
01:59:49,500 --> 01:59:53,100
better with Gino Smith, like the
guy who gets open immediately 

2308
01:59:53,100 --> 01:59:57,200
and the short area which is like
what Geno Smith is best at or D.

2309
01:59:57,200 --> 01:59:59,600
Get me who's never actually gone
targets at a high rate. 

2310
01:59:59,600 --> 02:00:03,300
He's there's no way guy there's 
no self that's going to get me 

2311
02:00:03,300 --> 02:00:07,100
here. 
DK Metcalf became a calf had you

2312
02:00:07,100 --> 02:00:11,400
know 30. 
Yeah 30 and FL touchdowns by the

2313
02:00:11,400 --> 02:00:15,300
age of 24. 
He had six last year in what was

2314
02:00:16,000 --> 02:00:18,800
Like that to me is anomalous. 
I think you could argue you 

2315
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:20,700
could say the opposite. 
You could say, madcap isn't the 

2316
02:00:20,700 --> 02:00:23,100
good fit with Gino and lock? 
It was the better fit or yeah I 

2317
02:00:23,108 --> 02:00:27,300
do whatever. 
I just I I'm not buying, I would

2318
02:00:27,300 --> 02:00:31,300
not take J SN / DK Metcalf. 
I want to be clear on that, I 

2319
02:00:31,300 --> 02:00:33,200
know. 
But if you if you think that the

2320
02:00:33,200 --> 02:00:36,100
jsn price is more appropriate 
and I'm saying I'm having a hard

2321
02:00:36,100 --> 02:00:40,900
time getting their, your mental 
piece of pie division amongst 

2322
02:00:40,900 --> 02:00:43,300
the Seattle wide receivers is 
going to be different than mine.

2323
02:00:44,200 --> 02:00:45,600
Yeah, fair enough. 
Fair enough. 

2324
02:00:46,400 --> 02:00:48,400
To me the locket is that if you 
want to play this through a 

2325
02:00:48,407 --> 02:00:51,000
veteran, lock it is. 
I mean it just talk about 

2326
02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:54,300
Metcalf first lock it like I'm 
not going to show you very 

2327
02:00:54,300 --> 02:00:59,200
quickly ceiling that catches our
dog's a lot lot, more targets 

2328
02:00:59,200 --> 02:01:03,000
than lock it the last two years 
like a lot more like like over 

2329
02:01:03,000 --> 02:01:10,400
like one and a half per game 
more Let me see what. 

2330
02:01:10,400 --> 02:01:15,100
I don't know that fold up, but 
it looks 26 like, rah, rah 

2331
02:01:15,100 --> 02:01:18,300
targets would be that. 
That's about right for last 

2332
02:01:18,300 --> 02:01:19,500
year. 
I don't know if either than miss

2333
02:01:19,500 --> 02:01:23,200
any games, but if you want to 
dismiss, locket is missed one 

2334
02:01:23,200 --> 02:01:27,500
game each of the last two years.
Yeah, crocodiles, I mean 21 

2335
02:01:27,500 --> 02:01:35,100
percent Target for real run. 
Metcalf is at 25%. 

2336
02:01:35,100 --> 02:01:37,600
Yeah. 
Mm, that is better. 

2337
02:01:38,100 --> 02:01:41,000
That cap is better. 
Metcalf is better than locket 

2338
02:01:41,000 --> 02:01:42,500
like a lot. 
Like I was better than locket. 

2339
02:01:42,500 --> 02:01:44,900
Yeah, I wouldn't say I don't I 
don't want to Peyton. 

2340
02:01:44,900 --> 02:01:47,600
I don't want to pay three rounds
for it, but this is where I'm 

2341
02:01:47,600 --> 02:01:50,700
just like they're both so good 
in like, I don't know II, just 

2342
02:01:50,700 --> 02:01:55,300
feel like taking crazy pills 
with the jsn stuff sometimes 

2343
02:01:55,300 --> 02:01:59,700
because it's like he could be 
like a solid hit as like an NFL 

2344
02:01:59,700 --> 02:02:03,000
career and as like a pick in the
first round but not Be very 

2345
02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:06,800
relevant in Year One. 
Like, I don't know that that 

2346
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:11,600
seems like the most likely 
outcome to me but yeah, I know 

2347
02:02:11,600 --> 02:02:13,600
that does not seem like the most
likely outcome to me. 

2348
02:02:14,400 --> 02:02:17,800
I think like he's a very strong 
Prospect was drafted in the 

2349
02:02:17,808 --> 02:02:21,000
first round great fit for what 
they need. 

2350
02:02:21,700 --> 02:02:23,700
I think he's I think he's going 
to make some noise. 

2351
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:26,700
I don't know that he'll be like 
a guy yet have or anything but 

2352
02:02:26,700 --> 02:02:30,000
like if we're trying to figure 
out how to play this offense 

2353
02:02:30,400 --> 02:02:33,500
saying, the most likely scenario
is that this really strong 

2354
02:02:33,500 --> 02:02:39,300
first-round Prospect Doesn't do 
much if think is a I think 

2355
02:02:39,300 --> 02:02:41,300
that's a risky way to approach 
this. 

2356
02:02:41,500 --> 02:02:43,200
I think that's why I don't like 
Metcalf. 

2357
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:45,600
He's the he's the most expensive
guy in the offense. 

2358
02:02:45,700 --> 02:02:48,000
So you're saying Jason's not 
going to do much and I'm gonna 

2359
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:49,600
bet on that with the most 
expensive Guy. 

2360
02:02:49,800 --> 02:02:52,000
The one who gets the one who 
gets squeezed. 

2361
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:55,400
If J SN is as good, as you think
is lock, it lock. 

2362
02:02:55,400 --> 02:02:56,400
It is. 
The one lock it is. 

2363
02:02:56,400 --> 02:03:00,000
The one I met calf is not good. 
Metcalfe is going to get 140 

2364
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:04,200
targets 87 catches and between 
900 and 11:00. 

2365
02:03:04,200 --> 02:03:06,500
You ards. 
Like just based on the variance 

2366
02:03:06,500 --> 02:03:09,700
of the deep throws to me but to 
take Metcalf right. 

2367
02:03:09,700 --> 02:03:13,900
You're taking him over some of 
these third round running backs 

2368
02:03:13,900 --> 02:03:16,100
that are that are great pics. 
So we just talked about how 

2369
02:03:16,100 --> 02:03:18,800
those I don't, I don't even 
bother coming back half cuz I 

2370
02:03:18,800 --> 02:03:22,100
cuz I do what you're saying, I 
take Jacobs or Ramon Dre or 

2371
02:03:22,100 --> 02:03:23,400
briefs or Derrick Henry or 
whatever. 

2372
02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:27,800
They're a large chunk of the 
time, but I'm I'm not coming in 

2373
02:03:28,100 --> 02:03:32,100
saying like I'm clicking, you 
know, like like there's such a 

2374
02:03:32,100 --> 02:03:34,800
huge tear break their like, I'm 
not taking Calvin Ridley, you 

2375
02:03:34,800 --> 02:03:35,900
know. 
No over over him. 

2376
02:03:35,900 --> 02:03:38,300
I'm just not doing you rarely 
even get that choice though. 

2377
02:03:38,600 --> 02:03:41,800
Sure, he goes. 
He goes usually ahead of Debo so

2378
02:03:41,900 --> 02:03:43,600
and I like to do more than 
Metcalf. 

2379
02:03:43,700 --> 02:03:45,400
Yeah. 
I like I like I like Metcalf 

2380
02:03:45,400 --> 02:03:47,000
more than Depot. 
Okay. 

2381
02:03:48,600 --> 02:03:51,100
That's, that's probably why I 
don't have much Metcalfe, is it?

2382
02:03:51,100 --> 02:03:56,900
Because I'm happy to take Debo, 
but then I get to Ridley Cooper 

2383
02:03:57,300 --> 02:04:00,700
Kenan, you know, that whole tier
50k was sitting there. 

2384
02:04:00,700 --> 02:04:03,500
I would 100% makes him in, you 
know, sure. 

2385
02:04:03,500 --> 02:04:06,700
Like to me that the tier break 
has broken like that is like, 

2386
02:04:07,300 --> 02:04:10,100
Hopkins could sign with the 
Browns and we're like why was I 

2387
02:04:10,100 --> 02:04:14,200
taking Amari Cooper again you 
know like they he's not all that

2388
02:04:14,200 --> 02:04:18,500
big of a bet on Talent play. 
So yeah, if Metcalf Was like an 

2389
02:04:18,500 --> 02:04:21,200
early fourth round. 
I would feel a lot more 

2390
02:04:21,200 --> 02:04:23,200
comfortable, but it's just like 
he's dead. 

2391
02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:27,000
I know, it's not like that many 
total picks but there's a big 

2392
02:04:27,000 --> 02:04:32,100
tear break at running back and 
there's a, he's included in this

2393
02:04:32,100 --> 02:04:33,500
previous tier of wide receivers 
that. 

2394
02:04:33,500 --> 02:04:35,200
I don't think he's a part of it 
be like a Keenan. 

2395
02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:36,700
Allen was going in the mid third
or something. 

2396
02:04:36,700 --> 02:04:37,800
A bit of. 
Why are we doing this? 

2397
02:04:38,300 --> 02:04:41,200
Yeah yeah I'm with the yeah 
that's fair. 

2398
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:44,100
I do think it is a little weird.
Hell I'm not, I'm not with that,

2399
02:04:44,100 --> 02:04:45,700
but I'm understanding what 
you're saying. 

2400
02:04:46,700 --> 02:04:51,200
Yeah. 
If anyone wants to book but Bets

2401
02:04:51,200 --> 02:04:55,000
with me on jsn, like first 
basically, any water seemed like

2402
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:59,800
the next like 12. 
Watterson not, not 12 up to 

2403
02:04:59,800 --> 02:05:02,100
Jehan Datsun. 
All those water severs, that go 

2404
02:05:02,100 --> 02:05:06,500
after jsn, excluding a Darius 
Tony, I'm taking him out of that

2405
02:05:06,500 --> 02:05:08,200
if you don't want to fuck, they 
were all. 

2406
02:05:08,300 --> 02:05:11,800
Welcome bats with me on that 
range of wide receivers scoring 

2407
02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:14,500
more points than jsn this year. 
And sure, if you want to, like 

2408
02:05:14,700 --> 02:05:16,900
say, ah, it's a week 17. 
That's all that. 

2409
02:05:16,900 --> 02:05:19,300
That is the point though. 
Like, you're like, if you want 

2410
02:05:19,300 --> 02:05:22,100
to, like, if you want to like, 
no, no, just a little worried. 

2411
02:05:22,100 --> 02:05:23,800
The whole thesis of the play. 
I'm happy. 

2412
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:25,000
I let me, it's like, you didn't 
love me. 

2413
02:05:25,200 --> 02:05:26,800
That's what I'm saying. 
If you want to structure if you 

2414
02:05:26,800 --> 02:05:29,300
want to structure it. 
Like last like eight weeks of 

2415
02:05:29,300 --> 02:05:31,100
the Season or something. 
Whose one more point? 

2416
02:05:31,100 --> 02:05:32,100
You want a structure like that? 
Sure. 

2417
02:05:32,100 --> 02:05:36,000
I'll take you on that bed, too. 
All right, we should sit down. 

2418
02:05:36,100 --> 02:05:37,400
I think that's exactly money for
me. 

2419
02:05:37,800 --> 02:05:44,600
Okay, let's get some bets going.
Anyways, let's wrap things up. 

2420
02:05:46,200 --> 02:05:48,200
I don't think another to our 
show for the people. 

2421
02:05:48,200 --> 02:05:53,900
Just another Monday afternoon. 
Yeah, can we just on that 

2422
02:05:53,900 --> 02:05:54,700
running? 
Back point? 

2423
02:05:54,900 --> 02:05:56,700
I do want to make one more okay?
Sure. 

2424
02:05:56,700 --> 02:06:02,100
Variation on that chart because 
I the freight like the way, you 

2425
02:06:02,100 --> 02:06:05,100
know, you had to make At some 
point. 

2426
02:06:05,100 --> 02:06:08,700
But to me, like, what I see 
here, and Hayden also had a 

2427
02:06:08,708 --> 02:06:12,000
chart that showed something 
pretty similar is that there's 

2428
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:15,600
running back value that Peters 
out, it's the running back by is

2429
02:06:15,600 --> 02:06:18,900
basically on by Running Back, 40
and it starts to get less and 

2430
02:06:18,900 --> 02:06:21,400
less is the draft goes on. 
So to me, the bucketing approach

2431
02:06:21,400 --> 02:06:24,900
kind of hides that a little bit,
like the larger trend is that 

2432
02:06:24,900 --> 02:06:27,300
there's a bunch of running back 
value 2 Peaks around running 

2433
02:06:27,300 --> 02:06:29,600
back 12 and then it starts to 
slowly Peter out for the rest of

2434
02:06:29,600 --> 02:06:31,700
the draft. 
I would be aware of that and 

2435
02:06:31,700 --> 02:06:34,300
that it does feel like that is 
the case. 

2436
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:36,100
It's to me when I'm in these 
drafts. 

2437
02:06:36,500 --> 02:06:39,700
Like I don't Jamaal Williams is 
kind of that cut off. 

2438
02:06:39,700 --> 02:06:43,300
He's our before T2. 
I'm like ah and that's right. 

2439
02:06:43,300 --> 02:06:46,700
We're kind of your RV 42 is 
going like one pick ahead of 

2440
02:06:46,700 --> 02:06:49,900
last year. 
Like that's that's where like I 

2441
02:06:49,900 --> 02:06:52,600
want to be done. 
Like I think to execute this 

2442
02:06:52,600 --> 02:06:56,400
stuff best I would like to have 
at least three running backs by 

2443
02:06:56,400 --> 02:07:01,100
that point, maybe for and and 
Hammer like you can you can have

2444
02:07:01,100 --> 02:07:03,200
your cake and eat it too. 
I think if you get like one of 

2445
02:07:03,208 --> 02:07:05,700
these early running backs, 
Advantage of one of those values

2446
02:07:06,100 --> 02:07:08,400
mix in a guy maybe in the 
seventh. 

2447
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:09,800
Eighth, you can also take too 
early. 

2448
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:14,000
I totally fine with that but 
like be aware that the trend 

2449
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:17,900
kind of stops this value. 
Maybe it comes back around again

2450
02:07:17,900 --> 02:07:20,300
really late but at that point 
those are a lot O tickets. 

2451
02:07:21,000 --> 02:07:25,200
So I would say like to me when I
look at this I'm like I want to 

2452
02:07:25,300 --> 02:07:28,400
I want to be overweight a lot of
that, my favorites of this early

2453
02:07:28,400 --> 02:07:32,300
group and then I want to be 
making sure that my teams are 

2454
02:07:32,300 --> 02:07:36,800
structured so that I don't go. 
Until like, round 13, with two 

2455
02:07:36,800 --> 02:07:38,900
running backs. 
Because now, I'm not getting any

2456
02:07:38,900 --> 02:07:42,400
Bargains On Running Backs. 
Yeah, that's a good point. 

2457
02:07:42,500 --> 02:07:45,000
Yeah, that's just like, so on 
this chart where you can see 

2458
02:07:45,008 --> 02:07:47,700
where the, the running backs are
actually more expensive than 

2459
02:07:47,700 --> 02:07:50,000
last year. 
It's a very small pocket in that

2460
02:07:50,000 --> 02:07:52,400
blue box. 
I think it's like probably 

2461
02:07:52,400 --> 02:07:57,900
running backs, 41, 42 and 43, 
that would be Elijah Mitchell, 

2462
02:07:57,900 --> 02:08:00,900
Jamaal Williams Jerick McKinnon.
So, yeah, that's point is 

2463
02:08:00,900 --> 02:08:01,600
correct. 
I agree with it. 

2464
02:08:01,600 --> 02:08:04,300
Like, once you get there, the 
discounts and running back. 

2465
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:07,400
Like versus last year. 
No longer exists. 

2466
02:08:07,400 --> 02:08:09,900
That's not to say that. 
Those guys are bad pics, like 

2467
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:11,200
that. 
That's not the point. 

2468
02:08:11,200 --> 02:08:15,000
It's just that I think and maybe
I'm wrong about this, but I 

2469
02:08:15,008 --> 02:08:17,500
think there is a conception that
like, oh, running backs are 

2470
02:08:17,500 --> 02:08:19,600
values relative. 
The last year everywhere that 

2471
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:23,700
the draft, I just want to push 
back on that, that's slightly. 

2472
02:08:23,700 --> 02:08:26,500
But I agree with without Pat, 
phrased it for sure. 

2473
02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:29,300
Will you say Pickens in that in 
that last eight weeks of the 

2474
02:08:29,308 --> 02:08:34,100
Season bet is Pickens viable. 
Can I let's talk about it. 

2475
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:37,400
Hey, Goes before Dotson doesn't 
go for a Datsun. 

2476
02:08:37,400 --> 02:08:41,500
Oh yeah, that's it. 
That's on the border. 

2477
02:08:42,900 --> 02:08:45,600
I'll take, I'll take that one. 
All right. 

2478
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:48,600
But you have to you have to give
me some some other ones to for 

2479
02:08:48,600 --> 02:08:50,300
you to do that. 
Well you can't you can't have 

2480
02:08:50,300 --> 02:08:51,600
Burke's because I like Burke's a
lot. 

2481
02:08:51,900 --> 02:08:56,300
I want I want Addison, I want 
Deonte I want Trail on. 

2482
02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:58,100
Well, we'll talk about it. 
We'll talk about it. 

2483
02:08:58,100 --> 02:09:04,300
Yeah, negotiated trailing. 
Okay let's talk. 

2484
02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:10,800
Talk our favorite values, 
anybody watch and learn, hi 

2485
02:09:10,800 --> 02:09:15,500
Chandler, running back running 
back, 60, 197th overall, tie 

2486
02:09:15,500 --> 02:09:17,400
Chandler. 
Be I take I've taken him and I 

2487
02:09:17,400 --> 02:09:20,600
think every draft, every faster 
after I've done this last week, 

2488
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:27,700
I swear, finally, finally, not a
57 wide receiver featured as my 

2489
02:09:27,700 --> 02:09:30,200
my favorite pic of the week. 
I mean that that one's going to 

2490
02:09:30,200 --> 02:09:32,100
pay. 
I mean, actually it's going to 

2491
02:09:32,108 --> 02:09:34,600
pay off in the short term. 
I think there's like a chance 

2492
02:09:34,600 --> 02:09:37,500
but I think it doesn't pay off. 
Yeah, there's a chance. 

2493
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:46,400
I might seem Yeah. 
Jeez. 

2494
02:09:46,400 --> 02:09:48,300
I feel like I've done so many my
favorite ones. 

2495
02:09:48,300 --> 02:09:50,000
Nice so far. 
Yeah. 

2496
02:09:50,000 --> 02:09:54,100
Go for it. 
I had to had to jump here 

2497
02:09:54,100 --> 02:09:56,300
saying, because I'm thinking 
Brock / T taken your boy. 

2498
02:09:56,900 --> 02:09:59,500
Oh god. 
I've already, I've already I've 

2499
02:09:59,500 --> 02:10:00,300
already done. 
Pretty. 

2500
02:10:00,800 --> 02:10:03,400
Yeah. 
I mean, you can still, you can 

2501
02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:05,500
still do it, but I got him when 
he was courting, you got them in

2502
02:10:05,500 --> 02:10:08,000
a better value. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2503
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:12,300
Not have to bet against his 
elbow, you gonna take the Arnold

2504
02:10:12,300 --> 02:10:16,400
then Yeah, he always seemed 
Arnold. 

2505
02:10:16,400 --> 02:10:23,600
No, no, absolutely not. 
I'll take, I'll take one 

2506
02:10:23,600 --> 02:10:24,600
actually. 
I don't even know if I believe 

2507
02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:26,600
in a teepee value here, but I'm 
scrambling. 

2508
02:10:26,600 --> 02:10:29,000
So here Pat, let me go. 
And then I'll let you go. 

2509
02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:32,100
Jonathan Mingo. 
He's one of my highest exposure 

2510
02:10:32,100 --> 02:10:33,900
wide receivers. 
I pick 131. 

2511
02:10:34,100 --> 02:10:38,700
Now, I don't know if the ADP 
value is going help. 

2512
02:10:38,700 --> 02:10:40,800
Kelvin. 
Benjamin featured here on Sam 

2513
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:42,700
Sherman's favorite sister, pay 
off. 

2514
02:10:43,000 --> 02:10:45,500
But okay we've talked about it. 
That would have been amazing 

2515
02:10:45,500 --> 02:10:46,700
picking best quality. 
Yeah. 

2516
02:10:46,700 --> 02:10:50,100
Pick one 30 Kelvin Benjamin give
it to me but I'm you know I'm 

2517
02:10:50,100 --> 02:10:54,300
just being stubborn with him. 
He his profile looks a lot 

2518
02:10:54,300 --> 02:10:56,700
better. 
Once you factor in his foot 

2519
02:10:56,700 --> 02:10:59,800
injury, I know that his 
analytics profile does not look 

2520
02:10:59,800 --> 02:11:01,900
good, but they spent her early 
second round. 

2521
02:11:01,900 --> 02:11:04,000
Pick on him. 
There are other wide receivers 

2522
02:11:04,100 --> 02:11:08,900
are Adam thielen. 
Who we all agree is garbage, DJ 

2523
02:11:08,900 --> 02:11:12,400
Chark who I don't. 
I think some people think DJ 

2524
02:11:12,400 --> 02:11:15,700
shark is something left. 
Don't put me in that camp. 

2525
02:11:15,700 --> 02:11:18,700
I think he's close to done so 
then you're looking at 

2526
02:11:18,800 --> 02:11:22,300
havenhurst terrorist Marshall. 
I mean I just don't see how he's

2527
02:11:22,300 --> 02:11:25,000
not at least playing and three 
wide receiver sets to start the 

2528
02:11:25,000 --> 02:11:29,800
year and I think he does either 
charc or feeling pretty easily 

2529
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:34,600
and pow I'd to brute a you're 
turning on Adam thielen man. 

2530
02:11:34,600 --> 02:11:41,700
How ya Feelin my boy but yeah 
I'm taking mango it's a good 

2531
02:11:41,700 --> 02:11:44,100
real life back I don't know if 
you're getting the clv value but

2532
02:11:45,400 --> 02:11:51,000
But Jonathan Miguel. 
I'll go candy cane. 

2533
02:11:51,000 --> 02:11:57,400
Well, we talked about earlier. 
I've gotta battle the only way, 

2534
02:11:57,500 --> 02:12:01,900
right, with the way he pays off,
he get you get teams talking him

2535
02:12:01,900 --> 02:12:04,900
up is like one of their clear 
starters, like it's definitely 

2536
02:12:04,900 --> 02:12:07,100
gained well. 
He's involved somehow some way. 

2537
02:12:07,600 --> 02:12:11,600
And then Penny starts the season
on IR something or gets cut. 

2538
02:12:11,700 --> 02:12:14,200
I mean, he just cannot hold this
ATP. 

2539
02:12:14,200 --> 02:12:18,100
If that happens. 
Yeah, I like that. 

2540
02:12:18,900 --> 02:12:21,100
Awesome. 
Pat. 

2541
02:12:21,100 --> 02:12:25,100
Anything coming up on legendary 
upside this week or otherwise, 

2542
02:12:26,100 --> 02:12:28,800
I'll be having. 
I'm gonna write tomorrow. 

2543
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:32,000
And I'm not sure, exactly, which
of like three articles that I'm,

2544
02:12:32,100 --> 02:12:34,600
I have like started. 
I'm going to work on whichever 

2545
02:12:34,600 --> 02:12:38,400
one strikes, me, but hoping to 
get a piece out this week on 

2546
02:12:38,400 --> 02:12:41,600
legendary upside, I will note 
case you missed it, that we have

2547
02:12:41,600 --> 02:12:44,100
dynasty rankings. 
Now, that's in collaboration 

2548
02:12:44,100 --> 02:12:46,600
with Davis and Jake. 
Anderson. 

2549
02:12:47,700 --> 02:12:52,500
So, check those out. 
Our first podcast about those 

2550
02:12:52,500 --> 02:12:55,800
rankings is out on all of our 
feeds now to so two and a half 

2551
02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:59,300
hours, maybe even longer 
honestly and we're doing another

2552
02:12:59,300 --> 02:13:01,200
podcast this week on the dynasty
rankings. 

2553
02:13:01,200 --> 02:13:06,000
And the plan is to do a third 
podcast next week and then a 

2554
02:13:06,000 --> 02:13:08,800
mailbag pod after that. 
So there's lots of Dynasty 

2555
02:13:08,800 --> 02:13:11,600
content right now. 
Awesome on legendary upset. 

2556
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:14,500
It's up. 
Davis, what do you have going on

2557
02:13:14,500 --> 02:13:19,000
two sides of the Dynasty stuff 
that we got that going on? 

2558
02:13:19,500 --> 02:13:22,400
I'm hoping to have some under 
the I've been tweaking around. 

2559
02:13:22,400 --> 02:13:26,200
Underdog rankings had the 
conversation with Herzig last 

2560
02:13:26,200 --> 02:13:29,600
week and I like change, I've 
like changed and then reflect on

2561
02:13:29,600 --> 02:13:32,100
like if you should draft off 
rankings or just off ATP. 

2562
02:13:33,300 --> 02:13:35,500
So working on those, I'll 
probably put those out on the 

2563
02:13:35,500 --> 02:13:40,400
take cast patreon sometime soon.
Then, take cast this week's 

2564
02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:41,900
Sports good fantasy football 
podcast. 

2565
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:43,900
All the good stuff. 
Awesome. 

2566
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:45,900
Well, yeah, be on the lookout 
for a Davis is rankings. 

2567
02:13:45,900 --> 02:13:50,100
I think, Derek Henry's fifth 
overall in those rankings, but 

2568
02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:53,000
she'd be sure to keep your eye 
out in collaboration with dirt, 

2569
02:13:53,000 --> 02:13:55,400
with David kitchen. 
Those are you know why? 

2570
02:13:55,400 --> 02:13:58,400
I was looking at it. 
I only have 13 percent, which 

2571
02:13:58,400 --> 02:14:01,100
feels pretty fraudulent 
considering how much like 

2572
02:14:01,600 --> 02:14:03,400
because I do. 
I want to take wide receivers 

2573
02:14:03,400 --> 02:14:05,900
there a lot. 
And also, I take Pollard over 

2574
02:14:05,900 --> 02:14:08,900
him every time. 
So, if I'm, if I'm on the 28 and

2575
02:14:08,900 --> 02:14:11,300
it's parlor door, Henry, I'm 
taking Pollard, I'm taking 

2576
02:14:11,300 --> 02:14:12,100
photos are too. 
Yeah. 

2577
02:14:12,108 --> 02:14:16,500
Yeah yeah, but but Jacobs are 
Henry, Jacobs areum, Andre 

2578
02:14:16,500 --> 02:14:19,400
Jacobs or Breezer Henry, or any 
of these guys. 

2579
02:14:19,400 --> 02:14:23,400
I got Henry every time, that's 
fair. 

2580
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:29,500
Alright, I got nothing going on 
but we'll be back next. 

2581
02:14:29,500 --> 02:14:34,900
Next Monday, for another episode
of ATP, chasing for Pat for 

2582
02:14:34,900 --> 02:14:39,100
Davis. 
We will see you guys.