1 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,600 I think for Christmas we need to get you new internet. 2 00:00:16,700 --> 00:00:18,400 We need to get Gretsch a new computer. 3 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:20,100 He said he's running a few minutes late because his 4 00:00:20,100 --> 00:00:23,000 computer is a quote-unquote, real piece of shit, right now. 5 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,400 What's going on with all your guys is tech support here? 6 00:00:25,900 --> 00:00:28,400 Well, some of its the computer for me because, you know, as you 7 00:00:28,407 --> 00:00:31,500 can see, now I'm moving. I'm Taking my mouth's, you know, 8 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:33,600 synced up with my words. It's pretty great. 9 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,000 It's pretty wild. It's because I just closed out a 10 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:37,600 ton of tab so it's not just the internet. 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:42,100 Although the Internet it's not ideal but it's also the stress 12 00:00:42,100 --> 00:00:45,400 that I put my computer under, as I'm writing, my article for NBC 13 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,700 Sports Edge Water, check it out, it's a great article, I will 14 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:56,900 say, I remember so like my process now for DFS is I've 15 00:00:56,900 --> 00:00:59,700 talked about this on my shows where like because I do a first 16 00:00:59,700 --> 00:01:01,900 looks a A show. I do this wall cast. 17 00:01:01,900 --> 00:01:05,099 I do my Friday show. I like men in black, like, 18 00:01:05,099 --> 00:01:08,700 Zapped myself after each show. Just be like, whatever, like, 19 00:01:08,700 --> 00:01:10,800 especially today, right? We like talked about this hours 20 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,900 on this mocha slides going to fucking change nine times over 21 00:01:14,300 --> 00:01:16,800 before. So it's like, I talk about 22 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,500 whatever information we have at the time and then it's just 23 00:01:19,500 --> 00:01:22,900 fucking forget it, but my new ritual is on Saturday nights. 24 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:28,000 I like to read your article and take notes down as I'm reading 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,400 it. And then, once I update, All my 26 00:01:30,400 --> 00:01:34,000 information on Sunday cross-reference it with I just 27 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,500 basically write down the names that you have a lien for like he 28 00:01:36,500 --> 00:01:39,800 set up for a good spot or I don't like this guy here and 29 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:42,100 then it just helps me kind of like triangulate. 30 00:01:42,100 --> 00:01:45,000 Hey this is a low own guy and Pat like some it's how I got 31 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,700 Donovan people's Jones. It will light up last week and 32 00:01:47,700 --> 00:01:50,100 he was like one of the best pump plays on the Slate. 33 00:01:50,100 --> 00:01:54,000 So this is me saying if you can find a way to marry, you know, 34 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:56,600 the numbers with with Pat stuff, which is so good. 35 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:59,700 I highly recommend it and that's like how I do it myself. 36 00:01:59,700 --> 00:02:02,200 Is that I'm Like I'm not coming it like Sutton was one of the 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,100 guys that I liked in the walkthrough and just so people 38 00:02:05,100 --> 00:02:07,900 know like I have not looked at salaries, I'm not saying this 39 00:02:07,900 --> 00:02:10,300 and that like this isn't like you know he's a good play on 40 00:02:10,300 --> 00:02:11,800 DraftKings. I don't know what a salary is. 41 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Then I went to I went over to DraftKings and I was thinking 42 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:16,900 like, okay like something could be interesting and obviously 43 00:02:16,900 --> 00:02:20,000 that wouldn't have panned out anyway but you know his salary 44 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,300 like he's like what $200 less than Judy? 45 00:02:22,300 --> 00:02:25,600 I was like, well I'm playing 0% sudden now there's no chance of 46 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:28,400 that. So it's you immediately have to 47 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,200 talk like my process for is like I I do all the stuff then I go 48 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,700 over for what I'm going to do when I have to toss out like 60% 49 00:02:34,700 --> 00:02:36,600 of right off the bat and then you toss that another 20% 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,200 because ownership or whatever, and then you get down, you're 51 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:42,000 like, but hey, that's still like a decent amount of stuff that 52 00:02:42,008 --> 00:02:45,900 you can use. So I'm like the same way or the 53 00:02:45,900 --> 00:02:49,300 opposite way with like the swole cast because I update my 54 00:02:49,308 --> 00:02:52,600 spreadsheet you know where I'm looking at ceiling projections 55 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,800 early ownership projections. Normally only awesomo will have 56 00:02:55,800 --> 00:03:00,100 early ownership projections out on like a Wednesday morning and 57 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,200 Few other sources. It's so like, I'll have it take 58 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:03,400 on this? Well, cast, I remember it from 59 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,200 like, six weeks ago and I brought up like tight end, and I 60 00:03:06,208 --> 00:03:08,400 was like, Johnny Smith, like looks pretty good because I was 61 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,900 just literally looking at the points, per dollar, value based 62 00:03:10,900 --> 00:03:14,300 on Leone's projection and Davis was like here and, like, stick 63 00:03:14,300 --> 00:03:17,000 snaps last week and like, I don't know what to say other 64 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,900 than like, I'm just looking at the projection relative to his 65 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:23,100 salary right now and his ownership and it looks fine. 66 00:03:23,100 --> 00:03:25,200 I don't know what more you want me to say. 67 00:03:27,700 --> 00:03:30,000 I went through this later. Good. 68 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,100 No, no, go for it. I was just saying like I 69 00:03:33,100 --> 00:03:35,200 normally don't have the experience of that you have with 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,100 the early look shows. I mean, you've moved it back 71 00:03:37,100 --> 00:03:39,500 because this will cast, you've talked about how that's kind of 72 00:03:39,500 --> 00:03:42,800 an early like a first-look show in a way but you're actually now 73 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,200 doing a true First Look show with for Pat Mayo's channel, 74 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,500 right? Yeah I do that on. 75 00:03:49,500 --> 00:03:55,500 I record that on Monday afternoon and I've like I'm 76 00:03:55,500 --> 00:04:00,000 willing to improv in blue and fly by the seat of my pants but 77 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:02,600 I do like 30 minutes ahead of time. 78 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,600 Roto Grinders will have like the most bare-bones projections up 79 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:07,900 early. Sometimes, they don't even have 80 00:04:07,900 --> 00:04:10,600 all the players projected, but they'll have like, I think they 81 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:14,400 just have a default algorithm. That's almost like qb1 running 82 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:19,100 back one and then probably some kind of DVP adjusted thing and 83 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:23,100 it's so I'll go through that. And but the second I do that 84 00:04:23,100 --> 00:04:25,800 show, I'm like this was the most useless information. 85 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,600 And that the top of that show I'm always like, caveat lot 86 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,200 change. Jizz covid, injuries, new team 87 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,300 of totals like, take this with a grain of salt. 88 00:04:36,000 --> 00:04:38,000 First Look, the Monday afternoon. 89 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,400 Let's go. Wonderful. 90 00:04:39,500 --> 00:04:45,100 So early, so early. Do you know what and all but 91 00:04:45,100 --> 00:04:46,400 sometimes I'll look at something. 92 00:04:46,500 --> 00:04:54,900 I'll be like holy fuck Cooper, cuffs 9600, haha, yeah, that's 93 00:04:54,900 --> 00:04:57,800 it. Yeah, then grabs. 94 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,900 How we doing, buddy? I mean, just pissed off of my 95 00:05:01,500 --> 00:05:04,200 bullshit ass computer, but otherwise, you look great. 96 00:05:04,500 --> 00:05:05,500 Hey guys. That was struck. 97 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:07,000 That was struggling with his computer. 98 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,500 Right? Before we started, you said for 99 00:05:08,500 --> 00:05:11,200 Christmas, we got to get it. We gotta upgrade all of us. 100 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:13,900 Well, it's funny. I went Cyber Monday. 101 00:05:13,900 --> 00:05:17,100 I went and looked around a bunch but it's just you know I mean 102 00:05:17,300 --> 00:05:18,600 don't they know. It's the busiest football. 103 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,700 We get a year. Best EFS like beer, I mean, 104 00:05:21,900 --> 00:05:24,900 really think it's not enough time to make a decision. 105 00:05:25,700 --> 00:05:27,100 It is the best. If asleep. 106 00:05:27,100 --> 00:05:28,400 It's doesn't seem like a great one. 107 00:05:28,500 --> 00:05:29,700 No, Thanksgiving. Week. 108 00:05:29,700 --> 00:05:33,400 When supercells, my wife is sending me stuff because I've 109 00:05:33,407 --> 00:05:36,500 been complaining about my computer and I would find you 110 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:40,600 think because, you know, football, I prefer I remember, 111 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,300 oh, go ahead. Well, just with like the laptop 112 00:05:43,300 --> 00:05:44,700 stuff. What are, what am I even 113 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:46,900 supposed to get? Because all, I know, I know, I 114 00:05:46,907 --> 00:05:49,500 don't know, like, what specs actually need, here's what I 115 00:05:49,500 --> 00:05:51,400 think that. I need a ton of ram. 116 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,900 I think Ram is, what solves the issue is Ram, would solve the 117 00:05:53,900 --> 00:05:56,600 issue, but I always think gotta get the most RAM available, 118 00:05:56,900 --> 00:05:59,200 that's all. And then beyond that, I don't 119 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:04,700 know. So anything that's what I was 120 00:06:04,700 --> 00:06:06,600 gonna say to you, that's what tilted me. 121 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:09,800 So it was like back in March and I remember I was doing a club, 122 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,300 Top Shot episode and I got the stream yard connectivity issue 123 00:06:13,300 --> 00:06:16,000 and so my screen went like really blurry and everyone's 124 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:20,500 like pixelated Pete. And I hate that nickname and I 125 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:22,000 basically made it my life's Mission. 126 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:25,300 I was like, I'm going to fix this and I swear to God up until 127 00:06:25,300 --> 00:06:27,300 this point, I have changed everything. 128 00:06:27,500 --> 00:06:31,000 I got a new pc. New router, a new modem. 129 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,600 I upgraded, my internet. It was like, I don't know what 130 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:36,500 the variable is, but I'm going to fucking change them all 131 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:41,100 because I live on the internet recording shows and like I will 132 00:06:41,100 --> 00:06:43,800 tilt my face off, so I don't even really know what the 133 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,800 variable was ultimately, but I was like I have to upgrade 134 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,100 everything. Will you look at it? 135 00:06:49,100 --> 00:06:51,600 So you know you didn't figure it out because your signal has been 136 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,900 quite strong recently it well I so I did so I had a PC that I 137 00:06:56,900 --> 00:06:59,600 hadn't converted over because I was like I'd been a mac guy for 138 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,000 a while and I got used to it and I'd kind of like put it off. 139 00:07:03,100 --> 00:07:06,000 And I finally made the transition about a month ago 140 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,900 from my Mac to a high-powered like gaming type PC that has a 141 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:12,700 bunch of RAM. And so now I've been pretty 142 00:07:12,700 --> 00:07:16,700 happy with the results. Okay, but I do think it's a 143 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:17,600 good. It's a good investment. 144 00:07:17,700 --> 00:07:19,500 Assessment, I mean, what happened on? 145 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,900 Did you guys have an eventful lolz this week? 146 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,400 Yeah. I'm seeing people posting stuff 147 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:28,900 that been the Bettors been exposed was, it was you guys, is 148 00:07:28,900 --> 00:07:30,500 that today? It was that an hour ago? 149 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:35,200 It was an hour ago. Yeah, it was it was, it was, it 150 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,100 was exciting. Are you familiar with been the 151 00:07:37,108 --> 00:07:39,000 better? Yeah, I'm familiar with him but 152 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,000 I'm not like other than the fact that he's, you know, this 153 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,700 Twitter account that is, you know, terrible. 154 00:07:44,700 --> 00:07:47,600 But yeah, I don't, I don't want to let this like go. 155 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,500 Full Top Shot brain spilling over into this, but the tldr is, 156 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:55,900 he, he's actually a parody account and bright. 157 00:07:55,900 --> 00:07:59,000 And I knew about this for about a month, but he recently over 158 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:02,600 the weekend had a suicide threat and then we're like, aw, hell 159 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,300 no. Like once you go to that realm, 160 00:08:05,300 --> 00:08:07,700 like it's no longer funny. Like it's no good and so we 161 00:08:07,700 --> 00:08:10,000 decided. All right, we'll do our exposing 162 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:13,400 then the better as a troll and we exposed to it was and in all 163 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,400 of that jazz. So yeah the the suicide threat 164 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:17,900 was was a no-go for us. Us. 165 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:23,200 Yeah, for sure. But yeah, I think I saw the 5K 166 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:28,700 thing with Empire maker. Well, yeah. 167 00:08:28,700 --> 00:08:30,500 This weekend. Yeah. 168 00:08:30,500 --> 00:08:33,600 So Empire maker, who big DFS guy? 169 00:08:33,700 --> 00:08:36,900 If you ship Chasers aren't familiar with him and he's done 170 00:08:36,900 --> 00:08:41,000 these kind of like free roles in the past where he did this thing 171 00:08:41,000 --> 00:08:42,799 called stake a fish and he did a challenge. 172 00:08:42,799 --> 00:08:45,500 He's like whoever can send me the most absurd like bong, 173 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:49,700 smoking video, all stay You and the NBA Thunderdome that night 174 00:08:49,700 --> 00:08:52,900 like a five thousand dollar entry because he's just a whale 175 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,900 who can just offer up freerolls on Twitter for entertainment. 176 00:08:55,900 --> 00:08:57,700 So he's done stuff like this before. 177 00:08:57,900 --> 00:09:00,100 He saw the been the better stuff on Saturday. 178 00:09:00,100 --> 00:09:02,800 There was a UFC fight, and I think he just said, hey, if you 179 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,700 nail the next three picks, the next three fights, I'll freeroll 180 00:09:05,700 --> 00:09:08,600 you 5000. And also people have been Oppo 181 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,900 bedding, then the better because his pics are so bad, they bet 182 00:09:11,900 --> 00:09:14,100 the opposite. So I think in Empire maker he's 183 00:09:14,100 --> 00:09:16,300 like I'll get Twitter entertainment, I'll bet the 184 00:09:16,300 --> 00:09:19,500 opposite of you. And you know we'll have some 185 00:09:19,500 --> 00:09:21,300 fun. So he does that. 186 00:09:21,300 --> 00:09:24,800 Then the better goes 0 for 3 I assume Empire maker raked 187 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:28,200 betting the opposite of him. Then he said been the better was 188 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:29,900 doing woe is me. Blah, blah, blah. 189 00:09:30,300 --> 00:09:33,600 And a maker said, I'll do it for the main slate for Sunday 190 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,400 football. You pick three games against the 191 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,800 spread five thousand dollar free roll, then hit it. 192 00:09:38,800 --> 00:09:43,200 He bet Seahawks cover sheets to cover in bucks to cover. 193 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:49,600 He got there and overtime and then he The Empire makers. 194 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,200 Like all right, I'll settle up. What's your PayPal? 195 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:52,600 He's like, I don't have a PayPal. 196 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:55,700 Like, my PayPal is frozen and so Empire makers. 197 00:09:55,700 --> 00:09:57,500 Like, what do you fuck you? Like, what are you talking 198 00:09:57,500 --> 00:09:59,900 about? Your it's so he starts dming me, 199 00:09:59,900 --> 00:10:02,600 then the better. Does he Empire messages Brian 200 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,600 and Empire makers? Just like so fed up with his 201 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:06,500 bullshit? Like what do you mean? 202 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:10,900 I can't send you money over PayPal that he blocks been the 203 00:10:10,900 --> 00:10:13,500 better and this is when been the better did this suicidal threat 204 00:10:13,500 --> 00:10:16,000 where he's like, I swear to God if I don't get my money, I'll 205 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:17,600 just end it. You guys will never see. 206 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:20,400 Me again, like I'm not dealing with this and then Ben and then 207 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,100 Empire makers like oh shit, like I don't want this on my hands 208 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,300 and he reached out to Brian and sent the money to Brian and 209 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:30,600 Brian was able to get the money to bend the better, but we had 210 00:10:30,600 --> 00:10:32,800 kind of known about this for a while and we're like, once 211 00:10:32,800 --> 00:10:36,500 you're manipulating someone, you know, with a suicide threat to 212 00:10:36,508 --> 00:10:38,800 get your 5000, like The Jig Is up. 213 00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:43,800 And so what we did in our expose, with tweet old tweets, 214 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:47,100 and kind of exposing his posting patterns and all this stuff. 215 00:10:47,100 --> 00:10:50,600 So we We out in the garage and it's a fun. 216 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,500 It's a fun episode. It's unfortunate because it was 217 00:10:52,500 --> 00:10:57,200 a good bit, but he wait, he he flew too close to the Sun. 218 00:10:57,400 --> 00:10:58,900 Is that Bart Baker pissed though? 219 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,400 Did he do was a bit, is O'Brien like acid, he's like, hey, like 220 00:11:03,400 --> 00:11:05,900 I think he mentioned to him that we think it's a troll and he 221 00:11:05,900 --> 00:11:08,400 didn't respond to Brian about it so I don't know. 222 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,800 That's not, I mean, that's kind of interesting if he's like, 223 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:14,000 playing up to be a terrible better and then he's like, 224 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,500 hustling guys in 25K freerolls, that he wins them. 225 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:20,300 That's you know, I don't know about that hustling. 226 00:11:20,300 --> 00:11:22,400 It is word. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 227 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:26,300 It was funny. I put in the Discord because I 228 00:11:26,300 --> 00:11:30,800 want to try to put together like a video, a highlight video of 229 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:33,700 stuff just from out from throughout the year from like 230 00:11:33,700 --> 00:11:37,700 all the shows I've been on and multiple people requested the 231 00:11:37,700 --> 00:11:41,600 Top Shot brain. Sewed of ship Chase egg or Pat 232 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:45,000 dye which is like zoning out. Looking at her Top Shot accounts 233 00:11:45,100 --> 00:11:47,900 and credit just like what the fuck is? 234 00:11:47,900 --> 00:11:51,200 I think that T I think the Topshop bring team won the 235 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:54,100 league. That's what you do? 236 00:11:55,000 --> 00:12:00,900 Yeah I don't think so man. Topshop Brian had to have been. 237 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:03,700 Okay, maybe it was the same one. I don't think it's the same one. 238 00:12:03,700 --> 00:12:06,900 I think we had high should pull this one up because we did 239 00:12:06,900 --> 00:12:09,300 finish first in this best ball Slim. 240 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:14,700 Him that we drafted, it is. I gotta go, I gotta I gotta like 241 00:12:14,700 --> 00:12:17,200 sort of confess. I had no idea that you guys were 242 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:19,700 so Topshop braid. I was just trying to like make a 243 00:12:19,700 --> 00:12:23,100 joke and then both of you guys are like, yeah, that's exactly 244 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:24,900 what we're doing. No, you take all this out. 245 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:26,700 You called us out because I was totally measure. 246 00:12:26,700 --> 00:12:29,300 So now what are you looking at? That's all you've been talking 247 00:12:29,300 --> 00:12:33,600 about lately and but you both like admitted to it right away. 248 00:12:33,600 --> 00:12:35,600 I did not actually think that was what you were doing. 249 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:42,500 Of this is a this is this is the team we drafted way back when 250 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,700 the kid'll pits team Ivy this team is so fun. 251 00:12:46,700 --> 00:12:51,500 DJ more Mike Williams CD Lami, you Bateman Parker at running 252 00:12:51,500 --> 00:12:55,200 back if God if we can just get Swift Back Gibson and this was 253 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,300 when Gibson was going, I want to say in like the early third. 254 00:13:00,500 --> 00:13:04,100 We took it so you put the board. I think ya round and Swift. 255 00:13:04,100 --> 00:13:05,800 Third round, I believe. I think. 256 00:13:05,800 --> 00:13:08,000 Yeah, let me let me get this up here. 257 00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:12,300 No we took Swift second round Gibson Theater and then it 258 00:13:12,300 --> 00:13:13,900 flipped off which should have been a clue. 259 00:13:13,900 --> 00:13:15,500 We should have been even higher on Swift's. 260 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,100 You let me early in the are, you know, it's real light. 261 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:22,500 We could have been more in. Yeah, look at this Gibson at 37. 262 00:13:24,300 --> 00:13:26,600 I like Gibson a 27 way but that's a lot. 263 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,200 Ha ha ha. I know seven. 264 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,100 I mean like, look at that was awesome. 265 00:13:33,500 --> 00:13:35,900 That's great. Well, it's pre-draft but still I 266 00:13:35,908 --> 00:13:40,600 mean he's never had that he did. But guys, didn't I what was the 267 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,400 mckissack play was like anti handcuffed but that was, that 268 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:57,400 was brilliant. Do you think Gibson's rookie? 269 00:13:58,700 --> 00:14:01,400 Oh shit. Ha ha ha. 270 00:14:02,700 --> 00:14:04,700 I've got been the better brain tonight. 271 00:14:05,100 --> 00:14:07,800 So I talked about how in best but I mean this is an 272 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:09,500 interesting one that people should look at Marco. 273 00:14:09,500 --> 00:14:11,900 I remember, one of the ones we were talking about was Jonathan 274 00:14:11,900 --> 00:14:14,900 Taylor and the heme Heinz from last year where if you get the 275 00:14:14,900 --> 00:14:17,500 the early down back and pass catching back in the same 276 00:14:17,500 --> 00:14:20,100 offense, they actually sort of anti correlating the way that's 277 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:22,000 good for most people. You're going to get a good week 278 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,400 depending on game script from either of them and so I think 279 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,600 that was part of why we did that and it's probably worked out 280 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:30,800 like they know, It was a I think it was a screw-up if I ever 281 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,500 call. I mean, we because it became a 282 00:14:32,508 --> 00:14:34,900 bit of the offseason that we'd end up drafting the Handcuff 283 00:14:34,900 --> 00:14:37,800 without meaning to. So, I don't think it was, it was 284 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,500 intentionally were also looked at what else can a brain thing? 285 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,000 We were also definitely looking at pass catcher specifically, 286 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,400 because that's something I love about early. 287 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,700 Best balls, though, the guys that like number one, they seem 288 00:14:47,700 --> 00:14:50,000 to fall later in the early offseason, but they're the ones 289 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,500 that have like the most secure roles like we took Hines and 290 00:14:53,500 --> 00:14:56,800 yeah, gesek thinking like their atp's are going to be there in 291 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,800 August, like those guys don't get Drafted to come take their 292 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,700 role because it's not an important enough role, they're 293 00:15:01,700 --> 00:15:05,300 just, you know, but they still had well, I would like a clip of 294 00:15:05,300 --> 00:15:09,400 us talking about why we made these pics now versus us 295 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:13,200 actually making them picks because I think that you have a 296 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,100 tendency to be like well you know that's catching packs and 297 00:15:16,100 --> 00:15:18,100 everything. Well, I don't think anybody like 298 00:15:18,100 --> 00:15:20,100 Pete Got Dirt we have Gibson already. 299 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Well I remember relying on you guys like with the Kyle pit 300 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,300 stuff. You guys are like the students 301 00:15:27,300 --> 00:15:29,700 just a generational. Hi, Tim Prospect, you gotta take 302 00:15:29,700 --> 00:15:32,300 him in the ninth round. Like I'm pretty sure I remember 303 00:15:32,300 --> 00:15:34,900 that bike Williams in the 14th route. 304 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,100 I mean I mean Todd Gurley and the 10th look at these values, 305 00:15:38,100 --> 00:15:42,400 you know? I mean this is like a great 306 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:46,300 example and I mean, this debate is going to get litigated all 307 00:15:46,300 --> 00:15:49,000 offseason. I mean, you can build super 308 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:54,500 teams early on in the season and if you had a portfolio of teams 309 00:15:54,500 --> 00:15:57,900 that you drafted and fucking January or whatever your 310 00:15:57,900 --> 00:16:01,400 advance, Rate would be shitty but you'd have a few fucking 311 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:04,800 super teams and that's like the whole thing with drafting early. 312 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:10,600 Like and I look at my like, puppy, 1 2 and 3, and it plays 313 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,400 out that same way. My puppy want Advance rate is 314 00:16:13,400 --> 00:16:14,600 atrocious. My puppy. 315 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:18,900 Three Advance rate is so good. It's at like 38 percent and yet, 316 00:16:18,900 --> 00:16:22,500 my puppy one is at, like, 14 percent and I prefer my puppy. 317 00:16:22,500 --> 00:16:25,300 One teams, my best teams like there's fucking super teams 318 00:16:25,300 --> 00:16:29,200 there. Yeah, the best thing about this 319 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,300 team that we did, I actually do. I don't know, I mean I'm I'm 320 00:16:33,300 --> 00:16:34,900 misremembering but I do sort of remember this. 321 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:37,700 Remember I wrote it up in my sub stack to Pat. 322 00:16:37,700 --> 00:16:40,100 You mentioned that when you drop could be right by the way, I 323 00:16:40,108 --> 00:16:42,500 don't actually remember. So you could be totally right? 324 00:16:42,700 --> 00:16:47,100 But You mentioned that we want to be on the rookie. 325 00:16:47,100 --> 00:16:50,200 So we took pits and we took definitely the end. 326 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,700 We took feltman Marshall and Bateman in the basement. 327 00:16:52,700 --> 00:16:54,300 Yeah, they've been was a great value. 328 00:16:54,300 --> 00:16:56,500 Obviously ends up getting hurt but if he doesn't get hurt he's 329 00:16:56,500 --> 00:16:58,800 like, you know, eighth ninth round pick like all these guys 330 00:16:58,800 --> 00:17:01,200 ended up going, especially Marshall went a lot higher 331 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,700 Felton didn't but this is before any of these guys were drafted, 332 00:17:04,700 --> 00:17:05,700 we didn't know where they're playing. 333 00:17:05,700 --> 00:17:08,800 We didn't know any of that stuff obviously and and then the other 334 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:10,700 thing we did was take like second-year players. 335 00:17:10,700 --> 00:17:13,500 Rookie like you know Swift get part of the reason Gibson went 336 00:17:13,500 --> 00:17:14,700 there. Like you know, he's just He's 337 00:17:14,700 --> 00:17:17,200 coming off his rookie year. Lamb just coming off as a rookie 338 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:19,400 years goes in the fifth round. He's in the third round by 339 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:22,099 biologists. You know I you seventh round he 340 00:17:22,099 --> 00:17:26,500 was in the fifth round by August like take young dudes. 341 00:17:26,500 --> 00:17:28,300 If you're going to build an early profile, I mean people are 342 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:30,700 gonna be dropped from these in a month or two so it's yeah, you 343 00:17:30,700 --> 00:17:36,700 really can't like overestimate how much some of these atp's can 344 00:17:36,700 --> 00:17:40,100 change, you know? So like especially in the young 345 00:17:40,100 --> 00:17:42,600 guys, right? Like there's just going to be a 346 00:17:42,608 --> 00:17:45,900 lot of hype is interesting that People actually didn't see that 347 00:17:45,900 --> 00:17:49,700 much hype. But, but like Higgins, moved up. 348 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:54,600 But by almost two rounds land moved up by like three rounds. 349 00:17:54,600 --> 00:18:00,600 Like you're I mean, she look at Chase, you know, I mean I wasn't 350 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:05,700 telling movement yeah the it is interesting. 351 00:18:05,700 --> 00:18:09,900 Mentioning Evan mentions seventh round Cooper cup like we finish 352 00:18:09,900 --> 00:18:14,100 first in this league and it also goes to show you know we ran 353 00:18:14,100 --> 00:18:16,800 really Pure in in in avoiding the land mines. 354 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:19,400 Like even a seventh-round, Cooper cup, couldn't wait you in 355 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:22,600 the league because you had Christian McCaffrey missed, most 356 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,400 of the Season Calvin Ridley missed. 357 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:27,800 Most of the season, it's hard to recover from that. 358 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,200 There are a lot of his late-round tight, in picks 359 00:18:30,500 --> 00:18:33,200 didn't hit. It's just crazy. 360 00:18:33,200 --> 00:18:36,500 How this stuff shakes out, like, you have to run pure as well. 361 00:18:36,500 --> 00:18:40,100 Like art are injury rate on. This is pretty nice. 362 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,400 Yeah. But you know, I like the stuff 363 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,300 and I look at, like, my best ball things. 364 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:49,800 Part of it was that I bought that this must be like a 365 00:18:49,808 --> 00:18:52,700 generational, rookie quarterback class because that's what, you 366 00:18:52,700 --> 00:18:55,500 know, the draft Community thought and that's how they were 367 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:59,300 drafted in the NFL draft and it did not turn out to be the case. 368 00:18:59,900 --> 00:19:01,300 So that hurt. So I you know, a lot of my 369 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:03,300 quarterback selections, I leaned on the rookies, I was like, oh 370 00:19:03,300 --> 00:19:05,200 that's the cheat code. So that's not going to work out. 371 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,500 Great. But overall, I also think I just 372 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:09,500 kind of flew too close to the Sun with my quarterback play. 373 00:19:09,500 --> 00:19:11,700 And like seeing this like Herbert Stafford. 374 00:19:11,700 --> 00:19:15,600 Boom, let's wish I had more Herbert Stafford teams. 375 00:19:15,900 --> 00:19:17,800 You know, like I never did that again. 376 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,800 Has on. It's like, all right Herbert 377 00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:25,200 Darnell, baby. Like I just, I don't, what am I 378 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:26,600 do? Like, what's the upside? 379 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:28,600 I'm getting from that. I think I talked myself into the 380 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:31,200 upside of like, finding a late-round court. 381 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,400 And it's like, you know what? Yes, there is upside. 382 00:19:34,100 --> 00:19:37,000 But there's also a lot of risk and you're not even getting that 383 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:44,900 much upside for that risk. So and you got I pulled up my My 384 00:19:44,900 --> 00:19:48,400 article on because it's just looking through and we did talk 385 00:19:48,400 --> 00:19:49,800 about the the pass catching backs. 386 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,100 All this is about it. We've now gone to Rico and stuff 387 00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:53,800 that was a classic play everyone to look at. 388 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,400 They are actually more volatile on a weekly basis. 389 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,000 We like that and basketball than also just like the role stuff. 390 00:19:59,300 --> 00:20:01,600 But this is the layers are other Latrobe. 391 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:05,000 Big zit gluten Rashad Bateman incoming rookie with great 392 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,600 metrics? Yeah, Tre a couple other guys, 393 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,800 so I shared some tips. Yeah. 394 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,500 Didn't you felt There's a day but I've never heard so eyeball 395 00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:16,100 it that he liked explains it and then I don't pick. 396 00:20:16,100 --> 00:20:18,100 Mod is God. You guys cool with their sores 397 00:20:18,100 --> 00:20:19,200 on your, yeah. Google it. 398 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:20,600 What's the biggest? Check it out. 399 00:20:22,800 --> 00:20:25,500 This is our drafting past Elegance about guys. 400 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:29,600 It does. I can't believe my Twitter day 401 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:33,300 was PD packs. It had my Philip Rivers, fat 402 00:20:33,300 --> 00:20:39,300 head with a mask on over it IV. Talk about dating ourselves are 403 00:20:39,300 --> 00:20:42,700 so long here. It's been quite a year. 404 00:20:43,300 --> 00:20:46,900 It is, it is fucking crazy. How long of a year? 405 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,900 It has, it has been. So it's not over, it's not over 406 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:57,100 15, but I, I do, I do want to mention that point because that 407 00:20:57,100 --> 00:21:02,300 is one thing that stings about, you know, the, the best ball 408 00:21:02,300 --> 00:21:04,500 teams you mentioned like the Herbert Stafford, which 409 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:11,500 obviously looks awesome and how bad late-round, He has been this 410 00:21:11,500 --> 00:21:15,400 year from a, from a best ball perspective and like all the 411 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:20,200 rookies, you know, that Lawrence Fields lanced here, that we're 412 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,800 targeting the darn old Fitzpatrick, tear like there 413 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,400 were a lot of us that were excited about like panthers 414 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:30,700 stacks and in Washington football team Stax, it's been 415 00:21:30,700 --> 00:21:32,200 really tough and I was the same as you. 416 00:21:32,200 --> 00:21:35,700 I was like fucking yolo, I'll take one Elite quarterback and 417 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:39,400 I'll patch it together with a QB a rookie or one of those guys in 418 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,400 like those teams just have bad Advanced rates. 419 00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:45,000 Yeah. And the other thing is like, you 420 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,600 know, laying around quarterback. Didn't work out great. 421 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:53,200 But you know, with those teams if you have like even like a 422 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:57,500 Lawrence or I don't know someone not absolutely terrible. 423 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,200 And then you just added whence and rocker for Roethlisberger's 424 00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:02,400 our third quarterback are always there. 425 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,900 Who always free, you know, like you didn't need to There 426 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,400 actually were guys who gave you usable points in the last round, 427 00:22:11,900 --> 00:22:15,700 if you just thought, like maybe Donald isn't enough as my 428 00:22:15,700 --> 00:22:19,100 quarterback to which by the way like years of best ball research 429 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:24,000 show that he's normally not. And I think I was kind of like, 430 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:28,300 well, any more upset anymore upside, I obviously didn't do a 431 00:22:28,308 --> 00:22:30,800 lot of best ball, that's all we talked about a lot in the 432 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:35,200 offseason, but one of the things that I thought was I mean, we 433 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,700 talked about on the show a lot but like this idea that you have 434 00:22:37,700 --> 00:22:40,800 to draft like you're right, I think in DFS you have to build 435 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,300 lineups, like you're right. But we have so much more known 436 00:22:43,300 --> 00:22:47,100 in the in an individual week in an NFL season are so much chaos 437 00:22:47,100 --> 00:22:50,400 that like, yeah, you could be too fragile to me spots. 438 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:51,500 That's kind of what you're saying like. 439 00:22:51,500 --> 00:22:53,500 Yeah, exactly. You're saying that you're, 440 00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,800 you're drafting like, you're right with only two, cubies or 441 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,900 two tight ends or whatever, but like it's really hard to 442 00:22:58,900 --> 00:23:01,200 navigate an NFL season and not have significant injuries or 443 00:23:01,200 --> 00:23:05,900 Boston an entire draft, like that's why I mean, In seasonal, 444 00:23:05,900 --> 00:23:09,100 our lineups don't look anything now like they did on draft day. 445 00:23:09,100 --> 00:23:10,800 We can go back to our seasonal drafts and be like that. 446 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,900 None of these guys aren't team anymore, you know? 447 00:23:12,900 --> 00:23:17,000 I mean, yeah, it's I think you need to build in contingency 448 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,200 still even though it seems like it's wasted pets and also, just 449 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,300 like, you didn't spend that much on the 15th round quarterback in 450 00:23:23,300 --> 00:23:25,100 the first place, so you don't need to be right there. 451 00:23:25,100 --> 00:23:28,900 Yeah, need to be right with one of the two picks, or 16th or 18. 452 00:23:29,900 --> 00:23:34,500 I will say to like I was very honest with myself about being 453 00:23:34,700 --> 00:23:37,800 BM like in it's the same way I play DFS. 454 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,300 Where it's like, I want to get first in when you look at the 455 00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:46,000 way BBM to is structured and what you have to do to navigate 456 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:50,900 that, that I do think that hype kind of fragile QB is the play 457 00:23:50,900 --> 00:23:53,900 and I even remember like I feel, I think we were honest with 458 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:57,200 ourselves about Trey, Lance, we knew it was a high-risk, 459 00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:00,700 high-reward play, it was an asymmetric bet, most of the 460 00:24:00,700 --> 00:24:04,500 time, it loses but when it hits it hits in. 461 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,200 Such a big way for you and so I'm okay like seeing that my 462 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,600 Advance rate is lower knowing that we made a concentrated bet 463 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,100 on those rookie, cubies we knew they were asymmetric bets. 464 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,100 They didn't hit that was well within the range of outcomes and 465 00:24:17,100 --> 00:24:19,300 like yeah, the fucking Advance rate is going to be lower 466 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:21,500 because we're trying to win a fucking Millie maker. 467 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,400 We have to dance through a shit ton of teams. 468 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,700 If your goal is to advance the most amount of teams fucking 469 00:24:27,700 --> 00:24:30,500 draft three, cubies draft, three, tight ends. 470 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,300 Draft a bunch of running. Backs are a knock yourself out, 471 00:24:33,300 --> 00:24:37,300 but your And finish Equity is going to be massively lower than 472 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:39,500 the rest of us. Yeah, that's a good point. 473 00:24:39,900 --> 00:24:43,500 I think that's probably true. But quarterback, supposition. 474 00:24:43,500 --> 00:24:48,200 We're like what you were getting with Lance wasn't necessarily 475 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:51,100 that much higher ceiling than what you're getting with hurts 476 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:53,300 and hurts was going like the ninth. 477 00:24:54,100 --> 00:24:57,800 So you know you're getting a tiny bit of a discount, maybe 478 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:03,600 the 10th or 11th with Lance but you know, I fancy douche years 479 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,900 ago, had an article about Out like risk-seeking versus upside 480 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,500 and like just trying to make sure you're not like just 481 00:25:09,500 --> 00:25:12,900 seeking risk when you're actually miss, killing isn't 482 00:25:12,900 --> 00:25:14,500 necessarily all that much higher. 483 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:16,600 And that's kind of the stuff. I just want to do a better job 484 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,100 of thinking through next year because you can, you can see 485 00:25:19,100 --> 00:25:23,200 easy to talk yourself into the ceiling on unknowns with, you 486 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:28,100 know, like a profile like Lance Big Arm can run, but and I think 487 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:32,000 he was, he was like a great pick in the 13th to 14th round, but 488 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:33,600 he got a lot more expensive than that. 489 00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:36,300 You know, and then you did put yourself in a position where you 490 00:25:36,300 --> 00:25:39,200 couldn't, you couldn't really maybe or you could take a third 491 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,800 but you didn't feels good about taking a third. 492 00:25:42,500 --> 00:25:46,400 It is challenging though because yeah he didn't play that. 493 00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:49,800 I mean I think that was a sub 50 percent outcome. 494 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,500 I don't think it was like a really small outcome but it like 495 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:55,600 the fact that he didn't, he's got one start through week, 15 496 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,200 14 or whatever, we probably have 35% 40% outcome. 497 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,600 It wasn't likely because his me to recall so kind of like 498 00:26:02,700 --> 00:26:06,500 coincided with his Tunity like right and he didn't play well 499 00:26:06,500 --> 00:26:08,700 you get the one start. Didn't go well and like and so 500 00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:10,500 it's kind of just like played out weird. 501 00:26:10,900 --> 00:26:16,100 Yeah I agree in the 35 and 40 or whatever that say it's 50/50 the 502 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:19,800 other 50% of times when he plays the ceiling probably was there 503 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:21,300 for family. Like look at taysom Hill these 504 00:26:21,300 --> 00:26:22,900 last couple weeks or whatever like we would have seen the 505 00:26:22,908 --> 00:26:24,400 stuff like that from Lance. Right? 506 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,100 And so I don't know that the BET was you know I know and I don't 507 00:26:28,100 --> 00:26:31,200 think and like I'm I'm gonna be drafting Lansing next year. 508 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,900 Yeah, you know like I've still been on the profile. 509 00:26:34,100 --> 00:26:37,800 I'll I just I just want to like, do I just, I don't know that 510 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:40,900 it's like what, especially quarterback, where we know that 511 00:26:40,900 --> 00:26:43,200 there's not going to be necessarily these huge shoot 512 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:47,200 separators and it's really just about like I do think that 513 00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:51,000 there's at quarterback like floor probably matters to some 514 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,000 extent where it's just like hey man get get get some points in 515 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:59,300 there because there's not even that many separators it this 516 00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:03,400 this is a great Point by Nick and I do think it plays into you 517 00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:04,800 have to be realistic. Talk about your goals. 518 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:06,400 I think the trade-off for not drafting 3. 519 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,300 QBs is you get shares of guys. Like the monster which is, is 520 00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:13,500 literally the thesis of the play and for some people, you know, I 521 00:27:13,500 --> 00:27:16,800 have Cordarrelle, Patterson, not enough teams, but I have them on 522 00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:18,700 a handful of teams. Like, that's, that's the kind of 523 00:27:18,700 --> 00:27:23,000 guy I add, when you're not getting a third quarterback, and 524 00:27:23,008 --> 00:27:25,400 you know, that the third quarterback raises the floor. 525 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:28,800 And, you know, it's like, it's like a GP mentality, right? 526 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,700 Like you're taking the 1% guy, I've got him in people's Jones 527 00:27:31,700 --> 00:27:33,900 gets loose for to 75 yard touchdown. 528 00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:38,100 You win the GBP most times he doesn't and you know Jamison 529 00:27:38,100 --> 00:27:42,500 Crowder gets 4480 and you cash. But so I guess the way that I 530 00:27:42,500 --> 00:27:45,100 was thinking about when I was talking about sort of not being 531 00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:49,000 too fragile, too many spots is that it's not so much about 532 00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:50,700 hitting. Like, I don't know if the 533 00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:53,600 discussion is necessarily just about that 18th round pick like 534 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,500 those guys are matter. Obviously, you want to have some 535 00:27:55,500 --> 00:27:57,900 exposure to them and you're getting more opportunity to find 536 00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:01,200 some exposure to them when you're taking more receivers and 537 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,400 running backs on every team and not taking third TVs. 538 00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:07,500 But Really it comes down to the team that has Cooper cup and 539 00:28:07,500 --> 00:28:10,300 Jonathan Taylor and Debo in your profile. 540 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:12,800 How did that one? Wind up basically? 541 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,300 Right. And so right right? 542 00:28:14,300 --> 00:28:19,600 I've, you know, you want it, you want that thing to have great 543 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,900 quarterbacks or whatever. But if that team had, it was a 544 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:24,000 to quarterback built. It had all those players in the 545 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,000 high leverage rounds. The one where you were, you hit 546 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:29,400 on everything in the big rounds, and you only have two 547 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,700 quarterback build, and it was Lance. 548 00:28:30,700 --> 00:28:34,600 And, you know, Russell Wilson, you're like, Fuck. 549 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,200 I wish I will ya. And, you know, you'll get you, 550 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:42,100 that'll having you can have like, like Russ and, and hurts 551 00:28:42,100 --> 00:28:44,700 or something, and you're like, well, I'm not getting out of 552 00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:47,100 this week, you know. So, you know, that wouldn't be 553 00:28:47,100 --> 00:28:49,400 even an example of this. So, you just, you're gonna have 554 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,000 bad luck, but I do think I, and I have like, I have a lot of 555 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:53,800 teams like those where I'm like, oh, yeah. 556 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:58,700 And I got their names, like, their names, like, Taylor Swift. 557 00:28:58,700 --> 00:29:01,100 I'm like, okay, let's go and then you go and it's like now 558 00:29:01,100 --> 00:29:02,500 you fucked yourself a quarterback. 559 00:29:03,100 --> 00:29:08,000 It's so, It just when you I don't know to me it's like how 560 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,400 many things are you trying to get right. 561 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,600 You know and it's I know that you're trying to build super 562 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,500 teams but if you happen to hit on Taylor and cup and Debo at 563 00:29:16,500 --> 00:29:28,300 that, but I guess it's like yeah I suppose and I guess I'm not 564 00:29:28,300 --> 00:29:31,400 saying the three quarterback thing necessarily I was saying 565 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:34,500 it kind of the context of because I drafted a lot of Lance 566 00:29:34,900 --> 00:29:39,300 because I drafted a lot of fields and Lawrence and Arnold 567 00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:42,200 they, it is nice. When I was like, oh, I dropped 568 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:43,300 it. Blends in this one. 569 00:29:43,300 --> 00:29:45,000 That really? That's why this team events 570 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,100 Advance because I dropped it once. 571 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:53,200 But I also think that One thing I did is that I went to in on 572 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:57,100 the strategy of going after the rookie quarterbacks are guys 573 00:29:57,100 --> 00:30:00,100 that I thought were undervalued a quarterback and I should have 574 00:30:00,100 --> 00:30:02,900 just drafted more two quarterbacks with an early 575 00:30:02,900 --> 00:30:05,500 quarterback. So I think I kind of because 576 00:30:05,500 --> 00:30:09,900 like I maybe I'm like skeptical in retrospect as like it was 577 00:30:09,900 --> 00:30:12,300 there really even that much of an edge there like if the year 578 00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:17,600 turned out the way we were hoping How's that is probably an 579 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,900 Internet? It's definitely not teams like 580 00:30:19,900 --> 00:30:22,400 think about a profile that has a lot of lands and a lot. 581 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,000 I mean him. Lance is a smash. 582 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,500 Yeah. Maintenance smash. 583 00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:28,600 You have a lot of configurations with lands now like yeah. 584 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:29,900 That's probably not just like you. 585 00:30:29,900 --> 00:30:31,400 That's the bet you made you know. 586 00:30:31,500 --> 00:30:33,300 But I guess I'd rather how everything. 587 00:30:33,900 --> 00:30:36,700 Yeah, I guess. I'm like, why did I do that at 588 00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:39,600 quarterback? We're like, I should have done. 589 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,900 I would feel better if I had gone, like, really in on You 590 00:30:43,900 --> 00:30:46,300 know, like a wide receiver or a running back play that way 591 00:30:46,900 --> 00:30:50,900 because if you're, if you had like, just a ton of, you know, 592 00:30:50,900 --> 00:30:54,000 Taylor or something, or even Swift who's now hurting, is it 593 00:30:54,008 --> 00:30:56,000 going to be that guy? But if you had a ton of you 594 00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:57,700 saying, I'm saying, like, I don't even know that the, the 595 00:30:57,700 --> 00:30:59,900 payoff was, was quite worth it. Mmm. 596 00:31:01,900 --> 00:31:04,400 Yeah. I, I just think you have to be 597 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,400 realistic about what, your, what your goals are with those. 598 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,700 Yeah, those tournaments, like you can build way more High 599 00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:14,800 floor, constructions, Based on that, when we were like, the 600 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,000 whole fucking concept of hyper fragile, you know what, we're 601 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:23,000 taking, you know, 2410, what is the math 2410 to builds here? 602 00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,700 I mean, like you're taking on a lot of risk, trying to thread 603 00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:28,600 that needle and hit that perfect combination. 604 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:32,600 Like when I look at my 2410, two teams, as Chris mentioned here, 605 00:31:32,700 --> 00:31:36,300 that have advanced it like has Taylor Swift, James, Conner, and 606 00:31:36,300 --> 00:31:40,300 Pollard on it like those, I fucking hit the nuts on those 607 00:31:40,300 --> 00:31:41,900 four running backs. And that, that's what you're 608 00:31:41,900 --> 00:31:45,000 trying to do, right? And I think of it in the same 609 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:47,300 way when I play Showdown and I play the three dollar twenty 610 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:50,100 Max, that has 160 thousand people in it and there's 611 00:31:50,100 --> 00:31:53,900 multiple paths to being unique, right? 612 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,200 Like, you can leave salary on the table, you can take fucking 613 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,800 Ben's Corona core, the 3rd string tight end or you can get 614 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,300 like a different construction than people. 615 00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:05,500 There's different paths, you can take and all of those are 616 00:32:05,500 --> 00:32:08,600 helping you get unique so that you can advance through the 617 00:32:08,608 --> 00:32:09,800 playoffs. And that's another Knight 618 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:13,200 dynamic dynamic to I saw by him for talking about this, where he 619 00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:17,200 was Excited about is teams that advanced that doesn't have 620 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:21,300 Jonathan Taylor and kittel and Debo because he knows that's 621 00:32:21,300 --> 00:32:25,100 going to be unique to, the majority of teams that advanced. 622 00:32:25,300 --> 00:32:30,900 Like, that's why you gotta get a lot right to win this million 623 00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:34,600 dollars. Yes, 100%. 624 00:32:35,900 --> 00:32:41,100 Yeah. Yeah, and I guess the monster 625 00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:42,800 team thing will be an interesting cuz we're not done, 626 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,700 right? So you know the advanced rates 627 00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:48,100 First, the Monster team debate, you know we'll go on probably 628 00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:50,400 four years because it's I think it's a really interesting thing 629 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,700 of like would you like you probably would shave off a 630 00:32:55,700 --> 00:33:01,500 couple points off your, you know, expected Advance rate to 631 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,600 to have? If someone told you like, you 632 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,800 know, you'll Advance like 2% less teams but they'll be like 633 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:09,200 monster. Seems you probably do that, but 634 00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,300 where is that? Where is that line? 635 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,400 Like, where is it? You know, where are you giving 636 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,500 up too much versus, you know what I mean? 637 00:33:17,500 --> 00:33:22,700 Like I think and part of me just feels like and I think I think 638 00:33:22,700 --> 00:33:25,400 Justin hurts it has more on the advanced and I think Leo needs 639 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:31,200 more on the advanced side of the argument but there is something 640 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,600 appealing of like just get as many teams in as you can and 641 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,400 then let the Madness begin. Yeah. 642 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:41,900 Yeah I think I do think that that's the that's the riddle 643 00:33:41,900 --> 00:33:44,900 we're trying to crack. Where is that line of pushing 644 00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:49,900 the uniqueness The Edge verse, you know, being over-leveraged, 645 00:33:49,900 --> 00:33:51,700 right? Like you're not going to play 646 00:33:51,700 --> 00:33:55,500 three, you know, wide receiver threes in a, in the Millie maker 647 00:33:55,500 --> 00:33:58,000 because you know, that the ceiling isn't there that they 648 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,700 all can get 30 plus points. But one of those guys that David 649 00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:05,200 people's Jones examples could theoretically get there and it I 650 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:09,300 think if If we can look back with honest retrospection, maybe 651 00:34:09,300 --> 00:34:13,900 we push that limit a little too much sometimes with them but I 652 00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:19,300 do think that I feel comfortable with my Advance rate relative to 653 00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:22,400 how my teams were constructed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 654 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,100 What's up? Let's get one through here. 655 00:34:25,100 --> 00:34:27,100 Huh? It went through. 656 00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:29,900 Yeah, it'll be it'll be interesting to see Ben. 657 00:34:29,900 --> 00:34:32,600 Where did you win it up? Only being able to just kind of 658 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:35,199 get our shared ship chasing action, right? 659 00:34:35,199 --> 00:34:38,300 For as far as best ball. Yeah, pretty much. 660 00:34:38,500 --> 00:34:42,000 I figured out way too late. That through my DK account, I 661 00:34:42,007 --> 00:34:45,400 could do some and I did a couple of the very last like that, like 662 00:34:45,900 --> 00:34:48,699 the day of the Thursday night football game, I did a couple. 663 00:34:49,199 --> 00:34:51,900 Yeah. It's like oh yeah I would have 664 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,800 I'm going to fire a couple off, I don't think they did. 665 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,400 Well I don't even remember honestly and one point but I 666 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:02,900 mean they've been fucking with my Projector winnings every 667 00:35:02,900 --> 00:35:04,700 week. Do you guys have to deal with 668 00:35:04,700 --> 00:35:05,800 that every single? We do? 669 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,200 It's, yeah, I haven't I've been pretty good about not sweating 670 00:35:10,300 --> 00:35:13,900 by teams, but the points have been all over the map with the 671 00:35:13,900 --> 00:35:19,900 life starring. Yeah, it'll be fun to see and 672 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:24,100 and we'll see how things shake out and one thing to and I 673 00:35:24,107 --> 00:35:26,800 remember even the underdog guys like Hayden and Josh, we're 674 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:31,100 talking how it'll be so much more fun to have the data. 675 00:35:31,300 --> 00:35:34,700 After this year, is we're going to, it's still such a unique 676 00:35:35,300 --> 00:35:37,200 format and it's still in its nascent. 677 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:40,400 See as far as how much data we have on how to attack a 678 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:43,500 structure like this, like a lot of us were projecting and doing 679 00:35:43,500 --> 00:35:45,500 guesswork. And you know, I think all of us 680 00:35:45,500 --> 00:35:48,600 kind of sighted. No with buying for to on taking 681 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,400 a more hyper fragile, approach knowing that it was a more Milly 682 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:54,100 maker style contest. And we will see, you know what, 683 00:35:54,100 --> 00:35:56,600 ultimately well and one of the things we talked about in our 684 00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:59,200 shows which I think was sharp and it's to your point was that 685 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,800 was this this and trying to figure out what the lessons of 686 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:07,100 next year were this year and being on them this right? 687 00:36:07,100 --> 00:36:09,200 Like we talked about this in July and August, I trying to 688 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,600 figure out what people are going to, that's what you're trying to 689 00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,800 do, because like the data is gonna come in and There's going 690 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,600 to be new, you know, widely accepted approaches or tweaks. 691 00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,800 And so it's like, well, what do we think is going to actually 692 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,600 happen in this tournament? That's going to change people's 693 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,800 approaches? How do we, how do we apply this 694 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:28,100 year? You know, before it actually 695 00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:29,900 happens and this is the funny thing. 696 00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:32,700 You see people massively overreact, fuck the data. 697 00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:34,700 I've never doing hyper fragile again. 698 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:39,700 I finished fifth in the in one of the underdog tournaments last 699 00:36:39,700 --> 00:36:43,200 year with a true zero. Our B Team people are going to 700 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:45,200 react and that's where we're going to have our Edge. 701 00:36:45,300 --> 00:36:48,300 Right, like we're going to see people feel like a fragile 702 00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:51,400 worked out, great. Oh, they did they did that. 703 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,900 I'd say people are tilting right now. 704 00:36:52,900 --> 00:36:56,900 I mean Leone published the win rates on establish the run in 0 705 00:36:56,900 --> 00:37:01,500 RB and Hyper fragile were the dominant strategy for 2020 like 706 00:37:01,500 --> 00:37:04,600 that was objective but I mean for this year, I feel like hyper 707 00:37:04,700 --> 00:37:09,100 hyper fragile was was great. Like, especially if you pushed 708 00:37:09,100 --> 00:37:11,000 it a little bit. Like I was doing like hyper 709 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,200 February. I'd add a Connor or Pollard is 710 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,200 my last, there wasn't enough Legend. 711 00:37:15,300 --> 00:37:17,400 Upside, right? And then there was the Connors 712 00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,900 and and the for Nets in the Pollard's that? 713 00:37:19,900 --> 00:37:20,400 Yeah. Sure. 714 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,500 People are, you know, bombing about that and there was enough. 715 00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:26,700 Mrs. If you guys can and you can do those, uh, if you were heavy 716 00:37:26,700 --> 00:37:28,400 on, see eh. If you're a heavy on, you know, 717 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,800 a lot of those types of backs and you're probably like this 718 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,300 suck, right? That's, that's very true. 719 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:36,200 Yeah. I mean this was a year to where 720 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:40,200 I mean Pat and I had the team we drafted live in Vegas where we 721 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:44,000 took CH over, Austin Eckler and it's like if we hit it does the 722 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:46,900 hamstring thing. Because of because of a didn't 723 00:37:46,900 --> 00:37:49,400 have to wait for watching. Yeah, we thought he might be. 724 00:37:49,408 --> 00:37:52,300 I don't think there's gonna be a lot of great information from 725 00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:53,800 this year. The data, I think it's going to 726 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:57,200 show that 0 or B could have one or heroic be could have one or 727 00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:00,300 hyper fragile could have one or because yeah, been hits and 728 00:38:00,300 --> 00:38:03,700 misses like it there hasn't. I mean it felt extreme in terms 729 00:38:03,700 --> 00:38:07,100 of the injury stuff, but I also think there's a lesson in that 730 00:38:07,100 --> 00:38:10,700 as well because like some years we overreacted the lessons from 731 00:38:10,700 --> 00:38:12,000 the past years. You know, we've talked about 732 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:15,100 this before to like the years where late-round tight ends 733 00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:17,600 Asheville Jordan. Reed smashed out of nowhere and, 734 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,900 you know, Tyler eifert was a light round the kid'll the next 735 00:38:19,900 --> 00:38:23,700 year when those guys were all like 10th rounders and later 736 00:38:24,300 --> 00:38:26,300 than we were like yeah you can get so much upside from 737 00:38:26,300 --> 00:38:28,800 late-round tight ends and you I mean you still can there's 738 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,100 something there like Schultz and knocks and those guys have hit 739 00:38:31,100 --> 00:38:35,000 this year but you're not guaranteed like it's hard to be 740 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,400 the overall title and one from from nowhere Ville, right? 741 00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:44,100 And so, like, I think you can overreact the data and as well 742 00:38:44,100 --> 00:38:46,700 in small sample because it's Like each season is basically 743 00:38:46,700 --> 00:38:48,900 like one DFS week. I mean and then the right the 744 00:38:48,900 --> 00:38:51,600 league is changing and draft chat, Trends are changing and 745 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,900 it's like we don't this one day Fest week. 746 00:38:53,900 --> 00:38:56,900 That's the crazy thing we argue about one DFS week. 747 00:38:56,900 --> 00:38:59,900 Like we quite like imagine if we had to argue about week one for 748 00:38:59,900 --> 00:39:04,700 a whole year, like right mother, I've talked with Brian about 749 00:39:04,700 --> 00:39:10,000 this on lulls, you can have an edge to a massive degree in the 750 00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,700 Millie maker. You could be 2 percent 3 percent 751 00:39:12,700 --> 00:39:17,500 better than the entire field and Not realize your Edge over five 752 00:39:17,500 --> 00:39:22,000 seasons of Max entering the Millie maker every single week. 753 00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,500 Like dr. Gary who apparently softball 754 00:39:24,500 --> 00:39:28,400 Family Maker win this year would have been two in a row, I also 755 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:32,200 RBX 88 again, there's lightning in a bottle but I mean that that 756 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,600 point holds true for these like be pretty sick if you'd won it 757 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,000 twice. I mean I would be concerned if I 758 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,800 was playing 12-man cash game. Best ball tournaments in my win 759 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,900 rate was that you know 70% or whatever. 760 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,300 But I am not concerned. And in a milli maker best 761 00:39:46,300 --> 00:39:47,900 balkon. Yeah, yeah. 762 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:52,200 Yeah. One thing, I am curious about, 763 00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:58,400 I'd love to see the data on this is Advance rate by in terms of 764 00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,900 the structural Advanced rates by month. 765 00:40:02,700 --> 00:40:06,200 Because I think that there must have been a higher rate of 766 00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,500 advanced sort of it of advanced 40 running back. 767 00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,000 In the, in the early months, right? 768 00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,100 There's just so much K. On the other hand, you could 769 00:40:16,100 --> 00:40:19,500 have gotten some of these backs who like, we've talked about 770 00:40:19,500 --> 00:40:20,900 like third round, Gibson and stuff. 771 00:40:20,900 --> 00:40:22,500 So the atp's were all over the place. 772 00:40:22,700 --> 00:40:25,700 Maybe were able to assemble some weird teams that you wouldn't 773 00:40:25,700 --> 00:40:28,300 have gotten later, but that definitely, because like, I even 774 00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:32,300 started to do more of hyper fragile like more, true hyper 775 00:40:32,300 --> 00:40:34,600 fragile. In, some of my last teams I 776 00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:36,300 started to get like, Josh Jacobs. 777 00:40:36,300 --> 00:40:38,600 Like I have a, I have a decent amount of Judge Jacobs from like 778 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:40,600 late August early September, because he was going in the 779 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,400 Route and it's like, all right. Well, then, you know, at this 780 00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,300 point, if I'm doing hyper fragile build, you know, I can 781 00:40:46,300 --> 00:40:50,100 add him as my rb3, or whatever in that is my firm. 782 00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:53,100 I like personal like, biggest takeaway of how I want to 783 00:40:53,107 --> 00:40:55,400 approach breast, best ball breast ball. 784 00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,900 I have no structural concerns, but detaching. 785 00:41:01,900 --> 00:41:06,900 Your emotion from the players you like in scooping the values 786 00:41:06,900 --> 00:41:10,600 based on that current snapshot of whatever sentiment is then. 787 00:41:10,700 --> 00:41:13,400 Within those structures is the key, right? 788 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,800 Because II struggle with like what Pat was saying. 789 00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:19,000 Like, fuck take Josh Jacobs in the six and sometimes that burns 790 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,300 you right because there were discounts on Miles Gaskin and 791 00:41:21,300 --> 00:41:24,100 Mike Davis like those discounts did appear at times. 792 00:41:24,100 --> 00:41:28,700 But like in general, I think building your portfolio around 793 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:33,300 buying a teepee values while sticking within the structures 794 00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,700 of your draft is is really just the best way to play it. 795 00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:41,800 I almost want to this like this doesn't have any Actual value 796 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,800 with this through what I'm about to suggest but I think it might 797 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:47,400 have some psychological value at least for me but I would it 798 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:50,100 would be an interesting exercise to go through. 799 00:41:50,100 --> 00:41:55,100 Instead of ranking players to go through and assign each player a 800 00:41:55,100 --> 00:41:59,200 draft King salary at which you would be interested in playing 801 00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:04,800 them and then convert ATP, value like to DraftKings salary and 802 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:06,300 then you can go like, you know what I mean? 803 00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:09,300 Because then you're able to say, like, you know, you're the one 804 00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:12,100 who said that, like Josh, Jacob's actually pretty sweet 805 00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:16,400 play at basically the mid 60's pick or whatever, because that's 806 00:42:16,400 --> 00:42:17,700 the salary it, you know what I mean? 807 00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:21,000 Like you can just a way of like because I actually don't have 808 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,800 that much of a problem being dispassionate, when I'm setting 809 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:27,500 DraftKings lineups, like I really don't. 810 00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:30,500 I'm sorry, I'm the same way I have a harder time with best 811 00:42:30,500 --> 00:42:34,300 ball like my biases. Then I yeah and DraftKings. 812 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,100 I'll play whatever fucking dust ball. 813 00:42:36,100 --> 00:42:38,300 I just stare at the numbers. But in the middle of the Season, 814 00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:40,600 I'm like, how is Miko Hardman going in the ninth round? 815 00:42:40,700 --> 00:42:43,000 Oh, guy's house. We go hard to go to the night 816 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:43,700 through. Yeah. 817 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,300 Yeah. And it's like, yeah. 818 00:42:45,300 --> 00:42:46,700 And this also caused some of that. 819 00:42:46,700 --> 00:42:49,100 I think like me Cole, Harmon, like, if we were going to sign 820 00:42:49,100 --> 00:42:53,700 him a DraftKings seller before the season, It would have been 821 00:42:53,700 --> 00:42:59,300 like, 4950 200, you know, wouldn't have been 6000, you 822 00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:01,700 know. So I think you can kind of just, 823 00:43:01,700 --> 00:43:02,900 I don't know. Like I'm just trying to figure 824 00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:05,700 out ways to take the DFS. I where I've had really, no 825 00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:07,700 problem being, I guess. Nope. 826 00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:09,500 Not no problem. But over time I've gotten to the 827 00:43:09,508 --> 00:43:13,100 point where I'm kind of like you or I'll have liens but those 828 00:43:13,100 --> 00:43:17,200 liens come in like I think after the math they're like the icing 829 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,700 on the cake in a way that I think is probably a better 830 00:43:19,700 --> 00:43:22,200 process which much harder to have. 831 00:43:22,300 --> 00:43:27,300 Of the biases at Bay and best ball or just any kind of 832 00:43:27,300 --> 00:43:28,600 season-long draft for whatever reason. 833 00:43:29,000 --> 00:43:33,100 Well, I mean part of the reason is in DFS, you know if you lose 834 00:43:33,100 --> 00:43:36,800 you can turn on a plate again. The next week in Seas act on its 835 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:38,600 the whole fucking year that you're basing. 836 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,700 It on, you know, the slope a off means that you want, you know, 837 00:43:42,700 --> 00:43:47,300 you want to have takes more more, you or yes, for sure. 838 00:43:47,300 --> 00:43:49,900 You can't like tinker, and then get results and then Tinker the 839 00:43:49,900 --> 00:43:51,900 next week and be like, yeah, I am gonna play me Cole Harbour 840 00:43:51,900 --> 00:43:53,400 to, then he sucks. It seemed like, okay, we'll play 841 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,300 be carbon next week, you know? And then move right, right? 842 00:43:56,300 --> 00:44:00,600 The, it also like, I feel like a really good example of this in a 843 00:44:00,607 --> 00:44:03,400 microcosm, is take Elijah more, right? 844 00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,800 He got incredible steam, you know, he was a great Prospect, 845 00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,900 had a great Prospect profile got it. 846 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:14,100 He was the talk of Jets camp. His ATP was getting almost 847 00:44:14,100 --> 00:44:17,200 outrageous. Like by mid August late August, 848 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,100 he was going to like the eighth. Ninth round has a really slow 849 00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:24,200 start. Then like gets hurt. 850 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,300 He's not doing anything for your team's, then he comes on and 851 00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:28,700 we're all sitting here, like, holy shit. 852 00:44:28,700 --> 00:44:31,500 This guy's the fucking League winner like this. 853 00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:34,600 Dude, if you have him as your you know wide receiver five or 854 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:37,500 six like your fucking shipping these leagues and then he gets 855 00:44:37,500 --> 00:44:41,000 hurt and he's done for the year like that's the best ball 856 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,900 experience in a nutshell and to me it goes back to being 857 00:44:43,900 --> 00:44:47,400 price-sensitive right. You understand the highs and the 858 00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:51,000 lows of what Elijah more can offer in your trying to get him 859 00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,300 on the perfect team? I'm where you advance in each 860 00:44:53,300 --> 00:44:56,200 unique and he carries you but there's so much risk. 861 00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:58,600 Maybe he doesn't get you there because he's hurt. 862 00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,500 Maybe he gets really hurt again. Maybe he's bad. 863 00:45:01,500 --> 00:45:05,400 Like I feel like that's just a good kind of example of of the 864 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,800 kind of. That's a good making. 865 00:45:07,300 --> 00:45:10,100 That's a good one because he almost like you any argument 866 00:45:10,100 --> 00:45:11,900 could be like you should have drafted Elijah more, you 867 00:45:11,900 --> 00:45:14,500 shouldn't have to the lodge where those are the toughest 868 00:45:14,500 --> 00:45:16,600 ones. Because I mean I would say that 869 00:45:16,600 --> 00:45:18,900 the argument for more was always at it could be a late season 870 00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:19,900 League. Well that's kind of the argument 871 00:45:19,900 --> 00:45:21,300 for rookies that come on more, right? 872 00:45:21,300 --> 00:45:25,000 And if Like it was a hit and then he gets hurt like the ones 873 00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,100 that you're right on and then you lose to an injury after it's 874 00:45:30,100 --> 00:45:33,200 like I was right on. Those are some of those artists 875 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,000 wants to swallow, man. Yeah, man. 876 00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:39,400 Which by the way, congrats to the Tony people because like I 877 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,300 feel like you guys were right, probably not many watching the 878 00:45:42,300 --> 00:45:45,400 show given given the feet and everything but like, Tony was 879 00:45:46,100 --> 00:45:48,300 looking pretty good. I mean certainly was going to 880 00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:52,300 pay off his best play TP, a big way and you know, Now he's on 881 00:45:52,308 --> 00:45:53,500 the covid listings. Flip side. 882 00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:54,800 You got guys like Leonard fournette. 883 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,900 Like that guy stayed healthy. If that fucker. 884 00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:59,300 Would I got her then you're like yeah I dodged a bullet because 885 00:45:59,300 --> 00:46:00,600 he was going to be a weak one. Yeah. 886 00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:05,900 Although the video stuff in retrospect like it never should 887 00:46:05,900 --> 00:46:08,900 have, we never should've realized like to think that Gio 888 00:46:08,900 --> 00:46:11,500 was somehow an impediment to anyone was, was a leak. 889 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:15,900 The, I don't know if I buy that runner for not was bad in the 890 00:46:15,900 --> 00:46:17,600 passing game on. Yeah, it was bad, it was bad, 891 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:20,800 but Geo wasn't actually taken the odd. 892 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:26,000 That was one of like, My, it's interesting to like, looking at 893 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:31,400 my teams, like, the first ten rounds, you know, II feel like, 894 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,900 I built strong teams. It's the, the whiffing on the 895 00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:37,300 rookie quarterbacks in the late round, quarterbacks like Donald 896 00:46:37,300 --> 00:46:41,600 and Fitzpatrick, coupled with backfilling, all of my hyper 897 00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:45,600 fragile teams, with the past catching running backs, like a 898 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:47,800 ton of Nike. Mine's a ton of James White, a 899 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,300 ton of Gio Bernard like those guys. 900 00:46:50,300 --> 00:46:53,200 Just did not hit this year. And part of the thesis of those 901 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,600 guys is that they buoy your team early when you don't have the 902 00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:00,900 Ramon Dre Stevenson's who have broken out yet and this year 903 00:47:00,900 --> 00:47:02,900 they did not Bui your team early. 904 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,700 Hmm. And the so Sam it s like why 905 00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:08,700 don't you just assign an ATP to which should be okay drafting 906 00:47:08,700 --> 00:47:11,500 him because there's basically no ATP that I would assign. 907 00:47:11,500 --> 00:47:14,900 It's rational to Melvin Gordon this year like I just wasn't 908 00:47:15,100 --> 00:47:20,000 gonna do it but like I could have be like I mean there's a 909 00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:23,000 minimum price I'm tracking, you know, and I'm like, Melvin 910 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:25,600 Gordon wouldn't be priced at the minimum, you know and if Melvin 911 00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:30,300 Gordon was priced it like 4500, I'd be jamming Melvin Gordon, 912 00:47:30,700 --> 00:47:32,400 you know, and just like then then to go. 913 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,800 Okay. Well then if he's, you know, 914 00:47:34,808 --> 00:47:37,400 let's say that works out so 12th round pick like, you know, you 915 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:39,300 should be drafting Melvin, Gordon, he would fall. 916 00:47:39,500 --> 00:47:42,500 If I remember right to the sum of the like the 10th 11th 12th, 917 00:47:42,500 --> 00:47:46,300 round rangy, find him there sometimes And so just trying to 918 00:47:46,308 --> 00:47:48,900 figure out ways to like convince myself to draft dust balls that 919 00:47:48,900 --> 00:47:51,000 I don't want all my teams in a portfolio. 920 00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:54,200 You should be doing that. I think and I remember there was 921 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:58,100 some some draft we did with ship chasing where you're talking 922 00:47:58,100 --> 00:48:00,900 about that for now, Gordon would fall, you remember the dress we 923 00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:02,200 do. That would be just all the 924 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:04,200 Pistons in it and guys would fall forever. 925 00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:07,500 But there was one where I suggested for that and you guys 926 00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:10,700 gave me a Relentless about it, I'd like the 18th round and 927 00:48:10,700 --> 00:48:16,000 you're like, is that if it was for the brand, How dare you? 928 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,900 But if it was a real draft that, I'm sorry, that's like what 929 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:24,200 that's important at this point. It depended very much. 930 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,600 Depends on the context. I can't remember what it was. 931 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,300 I just remember being like, yeah, that's a good point. 932 00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:33,500 Yeah. Um let's see here. 933 00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:37,800 I got for net. No I was trying to pull up this 934 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,000 one here. Where are you? 935 00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,200 Taking Javonte. We kind of had this. 936 00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,800 Do we have this discussion last week because everyone came out 937 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,900 with a Javonte 102 takes? I think we had this 938 00:48:46,900 --> 00:48:49,000 conversation. Yeah, we talked about him being. 939 00:48:49,500 --> 00:48:52,200 I mean, it really depends. Like if Melvin, Gordon is a free 940 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:56,800 agent after the year, if Melvin Gordon's not back, Then, you 941 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,500 know, I think you can talk about him. 942 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:02,100 The cop for me would probably be like cam Akers. 943 00:49:03,100 --> 00:49:08,000 We're cam Akers was going and so I would have no problem with him 944 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:14,300 at like the 112 111, 112? Where you at on Javonte? 945 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:16,300 Yeah. Like if Melvin Gordon's not 946 00:49:16,300 --> 00:49:20,900 there, I think he's Maybe higher than that, man. 947 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:27,300 I don't know Shawn Shawn said, on our, he had the 10 to take on 948 00:49:27,300 --> 00:49:32,500 our bananas last night, and I was like, she's we're going to 949 00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:35,100 get, we're going to get top 51 Javonte, I mean, especially if 950 00:49:35,100 --> 00:49:40,600 they hit a real quarterback, it's yeah, it'll be interesting. 951 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,700 I don't know, cuz I think we're going to talk ourselves back 952 00:49:43,700 --> 00:49:47,900 into some of the veterans like, you know, Ciara. 953 00:49:47,900 --> 00:49:50,100 Like, if they get a quarterback Camaros, probably going ahead of 954 00:49:50,100 --> 00:49:52,400 him, I would assume. I don't know if we'll be in on 955 00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:56,300 Chimera that high I do. I will still be on CMC. 956 00:49:56,300 --> 00:50:00,000 We talked about him recently, like he's, I'll take him over 957 00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:03,200 javante or any. Yeah, I meanyeah me to anyone, 958 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:06,200 basically. I mean, he's just a different 959 00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:10,500 animal, but Chimera, and Chimera had Seasons where everything 960 00:50:10,500 --> 00:50:13,100 came together with Breezy. Everything else, just the way 961 00:50:13,100 --> 00:50:17,000 that they've used him this year, shown, I think that's a key 962 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,400 still really unique, but remember earlier this year, when 963 00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:23,500 we like every week were like, they're not throwing on the ball 964 00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:26,100 to treating him as a Workhorse, or give him 25 carries a game. 965 00:50:26,100 --> 00:50:29,300 Like, he's gonna crush it with a career-high in Russia temps, 966 00:50:29,300 --> 00:50:31,300 he's got it, right? I don't think he'd ever had a 967 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:34,100 250 carry season. I'm pulling up his stats. 968 00:50:34,100 --> 00:50:38,000 Now, committee had never had a 200 carry season as what it was. 969 00:50:38,300 --> 00:50:40,500 He's only played nine games this year because he missed some, you 970 00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:43,700 know, some time of injury. He Said to career highs and he 971 00:50:43,900 --> 00:50:45,500 set his career high in carries then. 972 00:50:45,500 --> 00:50:48,700 Broke it later right season this year and just in single games. 973 00:50:48,700 --> 00:50:51,800 But for the season, he's only played nine games so far because 974 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,100 of these injuries, he's 21 carries behind his career. 975 00:50:55,100 --> 00:50:57,200 High in Russia's already, he's gonna set a career high in 976 00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:00,000 Russia's as well. This year for a season, even 977 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,000 though he's not going to play, he's gonna play 12 games or 978 00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,700 something like that. Eben, asked how Williamson go 979 00:51:04,700 --> 00:51:05,700 ahead. Were Taylor's going. 980 00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:08,400 I could see it if Jordans not back because we were still 981 00:51:08,500 --> 00:51:10,900 talking, are we were worried. I think a little bit. 982 00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:16,700 And like, you know, a little bit rationally about Hines, limiting 983 00:51:16,700 --> 00:51:20,000 Taylor in the receiving game. I think we also have to be 984 00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,500 realistic that recency bias and playoff performance will greatly 985 00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:27,900 impact this stuff. You know, the Colts, they still 986 00:51:27,900 --> 00:51:29,300 have a chance to make the playoffs. 987 00:51:29,300 --> 00:51:32,100 Like, you know, if you get a big Primetime, playoff game from 988 00:51:32,100 --> 00:51:35,600 Jonathan, Taylor unions where he's gone last year, like it 989 00:51:35,700 --> 00:51:37,200 where it Williams could go, where. 990 00:51:37,300 --> 00:51:39,500 But but, oh sorry. Okay, I got you. 991 00:51:40,900 --> 00:51:43,400 The better way to Make that Camaro point is he had never had 992 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:47,800 more than 13 carries in a game average. 13 carries per game in 993 00:51:47,800 --> 00:51:50,900 a season. He said 19.2 this year. 994 00:51:50,900 --> 00:51:56,100 Wow, and he's always had at least five catches in per game 995 00:51:56,100 --> 00:51:58,900 in every season and at least five point four. 996 00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:01,700 Since his second year at five point one is a rookie 5.45 997 00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:03,900 Point. 85.5, those are really Elite numbers. 998 00:52:04,300 --> 00:52:09,600 He's a 4.0 this year, like, you know, right at 4.0 like it 999 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,000 doesn't sound like it's that big of a gap. 1000 00:52:11,000 --> 00:52:13,600 It's one and a half or more to some of these numbers. 1001 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:15,900 He could be down in the threes by the end of this year. 1002 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,200 I mean that's a pretty matte like that's the difference 1003 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:22,000 between having real receiving upside and being like a 50, 60 1004 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:23,800 catch guy compare. You know, it was obviously have 1005 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:26,800 the 80 catches every year that everyone talks about anyway. 1006 00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,800 I mean his profiles different this year and I wonder if that 1007 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,400 carries over It is different this year and he's not been 1008 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:37,700 nearly as efficient as a rush or which it's a little concerned 1009 00:52:37,700 --> 00:52:41,200 given that he's he's getting to the age where some guys become 1010 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:45,100 more in his profile of like, more of the pure kind of 1011 00:52:45,100 --> 00:52:47,300 receiving down guy in, aren't able to do everything. 1012 00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:49,900 Yeah, I do. I do think in general. 1013 00:52:49,900 --> 00:52:53,900 It's going to be a super. I honestly don't know how it's 1014 00:52:53,900 --> 00:52:57,000 going to play out this year. As far as, you know, what is 1015 00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:01,700 going to be the metaphor roster construction because Right now, 1016 00:53:01,700 --> 00:53:04,200 you can read Twitter in the kind of the take, is everyone just 1017 00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:06,800 kind of shrugs and says, if you avoided the landmines and you 1018 00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,400 hit you know, the five or six League winners then you advance 1019 00:53:11,400 --> 00:53:14,100 like I had a tweet. I've been this Boston, you know, 1020 00:53:14,100 --> 00:53:17,500 experts League where I have a fucking by with Calvin Ridley 1021 00:53:17,500 --> 00:53:20,300 and AJ Brown as my first two picks because I have Cooper Cup 1022 00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:23,300 on the team. Like, literally my, I started 1023 00:53:23,300 --> 00:53:26,300 both Detroit running backs last week. 1024 00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:29,900 That weren't Craig Reynolds and I have a fucking by because 1025 00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:32,100 Cooper cups. Bring all the quarterbacks on 1026 00:53:32,100 --> 00:53:35,400 the year, like I have, if you have Cooper cup, you have an 1027 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:39,500 extra super Flex spot in a regular League, that's what you 1028 00:53:39,500 --> 00:53:42,100 have. I'm in a super Flex Dynasty 1029 00:53:42,100 --> 00:53:45,700 league and I was going to say no one would trade me a tight end, 1030 00:53:45,700 --> 00:53:48,100 but I've actually barely sent offers, but I did send an offer 1031 00:53:48,100 --> 00:53:51,700 to Heaven Silva and he replied that trades are ruining leaks 1032 00:53:51,700 --> 00:53:53,000 rejected. My offer did not send the 1033 00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,000 counter so I guess it's 77 did not enjoy my offer. 1034 00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,300 Who was for Zach, ertz by the way, I was trying to get Zach. 1035 00:53:59,300 --> 00:54:02,600 Restrains generally or Ruining also, he doesn't like 1036 00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,100 transparently buddy, but he's but he's a GP bro. 1037 00:54:05,100 --> 00:54:07,300 Now, congrats on your own, your bank of it. 1038 00:54:07,900 --> 00:54:11,400 But I have cup in that league and I'm literally starting. 1039 00:54:11,400 --> 00:54:14,000 I started John Bates at tight end in a site in Premium, 1040 00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:17,800 superflex League and doesn't matter because I've come, I kind 1041 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,500 of like it. Take the trays are ruining 1042 00:54:19,500 --> 00:54:21,000 links. I don't have a trade. 1043 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:24,100 I kind of like that was brought you had available graph. 1044 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,700 Yeah, that'll work the way. There were so many. 1045 00:54:31,700 --> 00:54:33,300 There were some really good comments here. 1046 00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:36,800 I wanted to bring up because Nick said I'll be curious to see 1047 00:54:37,700 --> 00:54:40,700 what acres and Dobbins ATP starts at. 1048 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:47,100 And then there was also Derrick Henry receive said that would be 1049 00:54:47,100 --> 00:54:48,700 a fun one. I think those three are all 1050 00:54:48,700 --> 00:54:51,800 super interesting in terms of where the atp's are. 1051 00:54:54,100 --> 00:54:58,700 Is it not Fisher backwards? If I was I mean I just read it 1052 00:54:58,700 --> 00:55:02,300 like it's yeah well maybe it's Fisher you know. 1053 00:55:02,300 --> 00:55:03,700 Let us know what you want to go by. 1054 00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:07,600 People don't necessarily send in annotated, you know, 1055 00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:10,900 descriptions of their hand and everyone in the chat. 1056 00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:14,200 Can you could could we get a system dust? 1057 00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:26,200 All right, we got it. The phonetic binary code and it 1058 00:55:26,200 --> 00:55:29,200 was just Silver. But the eyes were ones and so 1059 00:55:29,500 --> 00:55:32,800 it's just like I can't read it. You surnames on the Internet, 1060 00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:36,300 it's killing me. What were we talking about 1061 00:55:36,300 --> 00:55:38,300 there? Cooper, come to 30 and then 1062 00:55:38,300 --> 00:55:41,500 someone else has suggested kill so Dobbins Acres. 1063 00:55:42,100 --> 00:55:44,200 Derrick Henry and kittel. Where you think they go next 1064 00:55:44,200 --> 00:55:45,900 year? Ffp. 1065 00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:49,000 See I think acres is going to go lower than people are thinking 1066 00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:51,700 right now, especially by August. I think there's going to be 1067 00:55:51,700 --> 00:55:54,700 enough concern throughout the offseason about his rehab. 1068 00:55:54,700 --> 00:55:57,600 I mean, they're they're talking about trying to get Acres back 1069 00:55:57,600 --> 00:55:59,600 this year for the playoffs, which would be really 1070 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:02,000 interesting and that would change this, this opinion of 1071 00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:04,200 mine. But yeah, I think, as far as you 1072 00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:07,100 know, coming back from an Achilles, it's going to be like 1073 00:56:07,100 --> 00:56:08,800 look like Marlon Mac all offseason. 1074 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:10,900 It was, it was slow, there's positive reports and stuff, but 1075 00:56:10,900 --> 00:56:13,100 it was slow, and I think that's gonna knock him down as begin to 1076 00:56:13,100 --> 00:56:15,900 like, May June. I think Acres might be A sixth 1077 00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:18,000 seventh round? Pick those other guys are 1078 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,800 probably all going to be significantly higher. 1079 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,800 The, the other thing that's interesting about Derrick Henry, 1080 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:27,600 I was going to say too is I mean it sounds like he's coming back 1081 00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:31,800 to and the Titans are like 99% probability to make the 1082 00:56:31,808 --> 00:56:34,000 playoffs. Like we're probably going to see 1083 00:56:34,000 --> 00:56:37,100 Derrick Henry in the playoffs, which will go a long way to 1084 00:56:37,100 --> 00:56:41,300 determining his ATP. To be like the 104 if he has a 1085 00:56:41,300 --> 00:56:46,300 good playoffs, maybe higher. And it's me so hard to know what 1086 00:56:46,300 --> 00:56:49,100 to do because his feel like 28 or something. 1087 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:52,100 Yeah, this is, this is a fun one. 1088 00:56:52,100 --> 00:56:53,800 I don't know anything about Damien. 1089 00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:56,800 Harris has contract situation. Does he have any modules, like 1090 00:56:56,800 --> 00:57:00,900 your classic 10 to 12? Yeah, exactly Harris should be 1091 00:57:00,900 --> 00:57:04,700 entering his third year. No, this was a third year. 1092 00:57:04,700 --> 00:57:06,000 So he's entering his fourth year. 1093 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,000 So he will be back, though, in a rookie contract. 1094 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:15,100 So we'll be there. Yeah, that one will be He enters 1095 00:57:15,100 --> 00:57:18,400 and again, another I know I keep this isn't like the ultimate cop 1096 00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,200 out, but the Patriots are expected to win a couple of 1097 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:24,200 playoff games this year. So we'll in Belichick has not 1098 00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:28,600 been shy about using whoever, he thinks gives him the best chance 1099 00:57:28,900 --> 00:57:31,300 of winning. Like we could see like, an 18 1100 00:57:31,300 --> 00:57:34,000 carry games, provide Ray Stevenson in a meaningful 1101 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:37,900 playoff game in Damien Harris, gets relegated to a breather 1102 00:57:37,900 --> 00:57:43,400 role. Yeah, our K FD here says that 1103 00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:47,200 remind you is going to go where Connor was going and I feel like 1104 00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:48,700 Connor started falling at the end. 1105 00:57:48,700 --> 00:57:52,300 I think we'll go like a little closer to where Edmonds was 1106 00:57:52,300 --> 00:57:53,900 going, or more like Pollard was going. 1107 00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:55,800 Like I think you'll get I think would be my general range by 1108 00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:57,200 think. I'll get steamed a little bit. 1109 00:57:57,900 --> 00:58:00,000 I mean partly because we're going to, we're not going to 1110 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,200 shut up about him. We're going to talk about him 1111 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:06,400 non-stop, you kidding me, receive said it is Fisher. 1112 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:10,800 Then someone said James Fisher from Bill stuff No. 1113 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:19,700 No, not that one. Yeah, we're you Stone. 1114 00:58:22,900 --> 00:58:26,500 Yeah, it'll it'll be interesting to see how things shake out. 1115 00:58:26,500 --> 00:58:27,600 I think it. I think it's going to be the 1116 00:58:27,600 --> 00:58:31,900 Wild Wild West early on. As far as people jocking for, 1117 00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:35,800 what is the the dominant strategy for 20, you know, 22 1118 00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:37,900 best ball drafts. What about Eli Mitchell? 1119 00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:42,100 That's a good one. I mean depends his back right 1120 00:58:42,100 --> 00:58:45,000 but like it could be anywhere from like the the second or 1121 00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:47,100 third round. Honestly I think he feels like 1122 00:58:47,100 --> 00:58:49,000 an early fourth round her to me. Yeah. 1123 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,800 But it could be bad further if most turns back and healthy and 1124 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,400 it sounds like I mean it could be yeah. 1125 00:58:53,400 --> 00:58:56,900 That shit's six rounder. 74. You're so much more bullish on. 1126 00:58:57,000 --> 00:58:59,700 We already did this last week with how much you love you live, 1127 00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:01,100 Edgehill. That's true. 1128 00:59:01,100 --> 00:59:03,400 That's true. Well Mike, so you don't think 1129 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:07,100 he's in early 4th runner I think so my my just like macro taken. 1130 00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,400 I'll let you guys handle you. No Mitchell. 1131 00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,400 Just as a talent. But to me, it feels a lot, like, 1132 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,100 kind of how you're supposed to play the Patriots, running backs 1133 00:59:15,100 --> 00:59:17,000 over the years where you want the cheap one. 1134 00:59:17,000 --> 00:59:19,400 You don't want to overpay for the one that look good. 1135 00:59:19,400 --> 00:59:21,900 I'm not saying what volume? Yeah, where we see my recent 1136 00:59:21,900 --> 00:59:23,700 Wars ATP. Oh, we're here. 1137 00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:26,400 Oh sorry. Where he'll go, I mean yeah I 1138 00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,800 think Eli Mitchell if he finished like he's not playing 1139 00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,500 this week if they if he finishes the season strong they don't 1140 00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:33,100 make the playoffs. He's the running back. 1141 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:36,500 I mean Yeah, fifth or sixth round running back. 1142 00:59:36,500 --> 00:59:40,000 I feel like we're most Irwin. Probably, most of the guys that 1143 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,800 are being brought up more like weird asking Mike Davis when I 1144 00:59:42,808 --> 00:59:45,600 think. Yeah, maybe a little earlier 1145 00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:46,400 than most of. Yeah. 1146 00:59:46,500 --> 00:59:50,800 Yeah, I'll let James Fisher know you guys said, what's up? 1147 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,100 And let him know. I said it's up to know a lot of 1148 00:59:54,100 --> 00:59:56,500 these guys that are being mentioned, are the ones that are 1149 00:59:56,500 --> 00:59:58,400 uncertain AJ. Dylan got thrown in there, too. 1150 00:59:58,500 --> 01:00:02,800 Those are the running backs that make up the like, whatever 6 to 1151 01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,900 12 rounds. Your route is Aaron Jones go. 1152 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:09,700 Aaron Jones has to fall. I think a lot. 1153 01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:11,500 Well, I don't know if he falls a lot. 1154 01:00:12,500 --> 01:00:14,200 He's still very explosive player. 1155 01:00:14,200 --> 01:00:16,500 A very efficient player, especially if he closes. 1156 01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:18,500 Well, as a decent playoffs. I think he goes in, like the 1157 01:00:18,500 --> 01:00:20,000 third or fourth round. I don't think I was going to 1158 01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:22,900 say, he feels like he goes, we're like Chris Carson went 1159 01:00:22,900 --> 01:00:24,700 this. Yeah, that's what I would say. 1160 01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:27,600 I don't think he's like a fifth rounder. 1161 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:31,500 Yeah that's probably right. I'm trying to think there was a 1162 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,600 couple of years ago. We had a back like this who kind 1163 01:00:33,600 --> 01:00:37,600 of fell into that That range in a similar point in their career. 1164 01:00:39,600 --> 01:00:41,700 Dylan is and their thoughts about done. 1165 01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:44,800 I do ins the one I think Dylan significantly behind Jones and 1166 01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:46,600 drafts because you're also talking about the guy who gets 1167 01:00:46,600 --> 01:00:49,100 them more receptions. Jones has always been very 1168 01:00:49,100 --> 01:00:51,200 efficient. The goal line Dylan is Franklin 1169 01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,500 not been. He started to get some goal on 1170 01:00:52,500 --> 01:00:54,100 work and he's not actually getting in. 1171 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,900 I don't know. I mean, maybe it's tougher for a 1172 01:00:56,900 --> 01:01:00,000 bigger bat. It seems like a ridiculous 1173 01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,800 statement, but Jones has been really good at converting 1174 01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,500 touchdowns. You got one green zone, touch 1175 01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,000 last week, he scored, Dylan. Got the other three did not 1176 01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:13,100 score on any of his three. If Jones is good, the rest of 1177 01:01:13,100 --> 01:01:15,300 the way into the playoffs, like he's going to be like sort of a 1178 01:01:15,300 --> 01:01:17,500 high-value Touchback, the explosive back. 1179 01:01:17,500 --> 01:01:20,200 I feel like he's probably third fourth round and then you have 1180 01:01:20,600 --> 01:01:23,300 Dylan going in like the seventh or eighth you know, like not 1181 01:01:23,300 --> 01:01:24,500 much different than where he went this year. 1182 01:01:24,500 --> 01:01:27,300 Frankly. But maybe that's yeah kind of a 1183 01:01:27,500 --> 01:01:34,200 kind of Apollo type of ATP. Yeah, I think that's probably 1184 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,900 right because he'd go ahead of where Henderson was going this 1185 01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:39,700 year before the injury. Right. 1186 01:01:40,300 --> 01:01:42,800 Yeah, but dildo. What's interesting is, Dylan was 1187 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:44,700 already going in the seventh, in some leagues, this year. 1188 01:01:44,800 --> 01:01:48,200 You know, that's true. But I guess I actually, I could 1189 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:51,300 see him move up and I think that's going to be more Beauty 1190 01:01:51,300 --> 01:01:53,900 as a committee at. I'm just kind of going on the 1191 01:01:53,900 --> 01:01:56,100 recent stuff. Like, what do you make of the 1192 01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,300 usage from this last week? It feels like committee ish. 1193 01:01:59,600 --> 01:02:01,600 Yeah. Yeah, I called it like, sort of 1194 01:02:01,600 --> 01:02:03,600 the well, the first half was all Jones. 1195 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:05,400 They came out in the third quarter, after that, crazy, 1196 01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,400 second quarter. There's 45 points scored in the 1197 01:02:07,408 --> 01:02:08,900 second quarter alone in that game. 1198 01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:10,700 Game. I mean, it went over the over, 1199 01:02:10,700 --> 01:02:13,100 under in the second quarter alone and they came out. 1200 01:02:13,100 --> 01:02:15,000 They have the ball first and they're like, we're gonna 1201 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,400 December and Lambo establish age of Dylan. 1202 01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,400 They did the whole way down the field, Jones scored at the end 1203 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,300 of that drive, but the whole most of the second half was 1204 01:02:22,300 --> 01:02:24,400 Dylan. Jones had a massive snap Edge. 1205 01:02:25,300 --> 01:02:27,600 Nathan janky from PFF was tweeting at live and it was like 1206 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:32,100 7:37 at a half Dylan in a plane more snaps so Dylan Like was the 1207 01:02:32,100 --> 01:02:35,100 second half back. They went to like a physical 1208 01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:38,300 running thing but like I think that was somewhat situation 1209 01:02:38,300 --> 01:02:40,000 based, right? Just want to kind of slow the 1210 01:02:40,000 --> 01:02:42,300 game down settle things down. It was a crazy game, the Bears 1211 01:02:42,300 --> 01:02:44,500 were winning and they're like, we're going to just out physical 1212 01:02:44,500 --> 01:02:46,100 you. They kind of just like change 1213 01:02:46,100 --> 01:02:47,600 the pace of the game a little bit. 1214 01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:51,700 And I don't think what's interesting is is Jones scored 1215 01:02:51,700 --> 01:02:53,600 twice in the second half. He scored there and then he also 1216 01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:56,100 scored on a pass where he got some are yards, which I pointed 1217 01:02:56,100 --> 01:03:00,800 out Dylan's routes were solid. But Dylan doesn't run vertical 1218 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:02,500 routes. They use Jones as like a weapon 1219 01:03:02,500 --> 01:03:03,400 in the past. EDM beat. 1220 01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,600 It just passes down field to get some of these interesting 1221 01:03:05,600 --> 01:03:08,500 elements. I called Dylan's running 1222 01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:09,500 background. Has a little bit more 1223 01:03:09,500 --> 01:03:11,500 traditional, he's just kind of running into the flat or 1224 01:03:11,500 --> 01:03:13,800 blocking and releasing and kept these a good receiver. 1225 01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:16,600 But like, we've talked about is like Eddie Lacy Eddie Lacy's, 1226 01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:19,200 not, you know, running wheel routes and stuff, but Jones is 1227 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,500 Jones will do that stuff. So Jones is going to have the 1228 01:03:21,500 --> 01:03:24,600 efficiency side of it. He's gonna have the big play 1229 01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:26,300 side of it. It is a little bit of a 1230 01:03:26,308 --> 01:03:27,900 committee, but it's like a thunder and lightning committee 1231 01:03:27,900 --> 01:03:31,800 where Jones is gonna get its gonna have more receiving 1232 01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:34,600 upside. And I Dylan is really dominated 1233 01:03:34,600 --> 01:03:37,100 the goal line work lately, but in the last couple games 1234 01:03:37,100 --> 01:03:38,800 together, he's got seven of the eight touches. 1235 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:42,500 Down there but he has only scored on one and Jones scored 1236 01:03:42,500 --> 01:03:44,600 on his one. And Jones is really good down 1237 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:45,700 there. I honestly think it might just 1238 01:03:45,700 --> 01:03:47,000 be 50. You know what it is, dude. 1239 01:03:47,700 --> 01:03:51,200 I think he'll go occurring. Hunt went until might be like, 1240 01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:53,600 to be free hunt. It might be like that, but had a 1241 01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,800 little more receiving value. I yam or receiving, but less 1242 01:03:56,800 --> 01:04:00,200 touchdown Equity, you kind of getting some receiving some 1243 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:02,700 touchdown, you're getting like enough high-value stuff, it's 1244 01:04:02,700 --> 01:04:05,500 not all receiving. But yeah, I think it'll go like 1245 01:04:05,500 --> 01:04:08,000 in that kind of other down to sixth round range. 1246 01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:10,500 Like almost the first year running back kind of he's kind 1247 01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:14,600 of the same play as this year. The idea is that the I did this 1248 01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,700 year was if Jones Goes Down, Dylan can be a league when it 1249 01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:20,500 was all contingency but there might be also, some Standalone 1250 01:04:20,500 --> 01:04:22,700 value was what we were pitching all offseason and there has 1251 01:04:22,700 --> 01:04:25,400 been. Now we know there's more 1252 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:28,500 bankable, Standalone value I think zactly next year and so it 1253 01:04:28,500 --> 01:04:30,400 gives them a round or two is what you're saying basically 1254 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:31,400 screen. Exactly. 1255 01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:33,900 Yeah. Frank was asking about Antonio. 1256 01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:35,000 Give yeah. Yeah, Gibson. 1257 01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:36,900 Yeah, yeah. Gibson's a good one. 1258 01:04:36,900 --> 01:04:43,100 I mean God, that feels like kind of like a mile Sanders type of 1259 01:04:43,100 --> 01:04:46,400 situation to me, right? We've seen some flashes. 1260 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,500 We've seen some disappointment. We were like, not 100% sure that 1261 01:04:49,500 --> 01:04:52,500 the team is committed to them, but like it probably committed 1262 01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:55,600 to them. They drafted a fairly high on 1263 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,500 the downside, though, it could be a David Montgomery. 1264 01:04:59,500 --> 01:05:04,500 Type of ATP from Like post rookie year where he felt or to 1265 01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:08,800 like the 7th or 8th, which said I said, he's so tough. 1266 01:05:08,900 --> 01:05:11,400 I agree with you. It's, he's a tough one to read. 1267 01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:13,300 What's makes me for outro Montgomery? 1268 01:05:15,700 --> 01:05:18,100 I was just you say, what's my cat 6 contract. 1269 01:05:18,200 --> 01:05:23,400 Yeah, I literally typing that he's a free agent after the 1270 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:31,300 year. Okay, that's good at maths whole 1271 01:05:31,300 --> 01:05:34,000 thing. Yeah, I think they bring him 1272 01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:35,600 back. Honestly me, and they like him. 1273 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:36,600 He's good. Yeah, they do. 1274 01:05:36,700 --> 01:05:39,800 Good pass catcher. He turns 29 in August though. 1275 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:42,500 So I think you know, you're going to have, he's not going to 1276 01:05:42,500 --> 01:05:44,100 get a big offer. That's why I think they probably 1277 01:05:44,100 --> 01:05:45,600 can get him back for like two Mill. 1278 01:05:45,700 --> 01:05:47,600 Like, he's not going to get something that blows it that out 1279 01:05:47,600 --> 01:05:48,600 of the water. You know? 1280 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:54,000 I think he settles in the, the fifth round is where I get some 1281 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,300 see him. Yeah I think I think Ben's like 1282 01:05:56,300 --> 01:06:00,100 Mi Sanders comp is really good because that's those a good 1283 01:06:00,100 --> 01:06:03,200 company almost was that years past? 1284 01:06:03,300 --> 01:06:25,500 Yes. And yet there's so much 110 112. 1285 01:06:25,500 --> 01:06:28,500 It was like Compton the year to Mi say there's play. 1286 01:06:28,500 --> 01:06:31,200 You know. Yeah from my seniors 2019 and 1287 01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:37,700 now mi centers 2020 Gibson. Yummy 21 was almost 120 and 1288 01:06:37,700 --> 01:06:39,700 you're saying now that Gibson 28 points. 1289 01:06:40,100 --> 01:06:43,600 Yes, I was here 20 21, it's basically the same thing too. 1290 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:47,200 It makes sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1291 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,700 Gibson stuff too. Because like, as much as I'd 1292 01:06:49,700 --> 01:06:52,700 like to think he was a rookie this year, I mean, the Nike him 1293 01:06:52,700 --> 01:06:57,100 Hines being a problem for Ethan Taylor is what kind of kept 1294 01:06:57,100 --> 01:07:00,000 Jonathan Taylor's ADP and check for a lot of the subject. 1295 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,200 They're just like, you know, he's going to be a 2 down guy. 1296 01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,900 Yeah we don't care if he's efficient he's gonna lose 1297 01:07:03,900 --> 01:07:06,600 pass-catching work that narrative shifts really quickly. 1298 01:07:07,000 --> 01:07:12,500 Now Antonio Gibson not the prospect of Jonathan Taylor 1299 01:07:12,700 --> 01:07:17,500 could he actually pull away from a really good receiving back in 1300 01:07:17,500 --> 01:07:24,500 the way JT did from night? He Minds Can he catch can Gibson 1301 01:07:24,500 --> 01:07:29,400 Gibson, pull away from from mckissack in the same way that 1302 01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,300 JT was able to put a caddy from having? 1303 01:07:31,300 --> 01:07:35,300 It's possible but like the chance of that happening is now 1304 01:07:36,100 --> 01:07:40,100 much lower. Daniel my lovely thought going 1305 01:07:40,100 --> 01:07:42,800 into the season and right and he hasn't and that's what the 1306 01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:45,100 Sanders caught makes sense. The receiving didn't 1307 01:07:45,100 --> 01:07:48,300 materialise, it was an upside play that like he could take 1308 01:07:48,300 --> 01:07:50,900 over the backfield and be generational Talent, sort of and 1309 01:07:50,900 --> 01:07:53,200 Pete to your question. Taylor's the one who did that? 1310 01:07:53,300 --> 01:07:55,400 Gibson didn't do it. So I think honestly it's a 1311 01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,400 pretty Heart. Like Pat was saying before I cut 1312 01:07:57,400 --> 01:07:59,700 them off like it's a really hard path to see now because he 1313 01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:03,400 didn't do it this year in fairness to Gibson if in the 1314 01:08:03,408 --> 01:08:06,700 mile Sanders calm I do think it's maybe a little bit more 1315 01:08:06,700 --> 01:08:07,500 like Josh. Jacob. 1316 01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:11,600 As in terms of the actual real-life situation because Josh 1317 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:15,500 Jacobs has just Josh Jacobs was a receiving Prospect, like when 1318 01:08:15,500 --> 01:08:20,600 he came in he yards per hour and over to in his college career he 1319 01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:22,700 was kind of in that role like alongside Damien Harris. 1320 01:08:22,700 --> 01:08:24,800 He was more. The receiving guy Harris was the 1321 01:08:24,800 --> 01:08:27,000 Bruiser he comes in. They use them like a Bruiser. 1322 01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,000 We're all like, what's going on? Why are they doing this? 1323 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,000 They continually have receiving backs. 1324 01:08:31,000 --> 01:08:33,800 They have him locked into that role and so we know. 1325 01:08:33,800 --> 01:08:38,600 He doesn't really have access to that and then He's okay as a 1326 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:42,899 receiver he's not like amazing but he's good with with Sanders. 1327 01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:48,600 He was bad as a receiver like in 2020 he was bad like he's his 1328 01:08:48,600 --> 01:08:51,700 yards per hour on the cratered you know just like watching him 1329 01:08:51,700 --> 01:08:53,000 he wasn't very good as a receiver. 1330 01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,700 So I think it's like a little bit more similar to Jacobs where 1331 01:08:56,700 --> 01:08:59,700 you're hoping he's like good in their semen game but the idea 1332 01:08:59,700 --> 01:09:03,600 that he's going to be awesome as a receiver that he has like a 1333 01:09:03,608 --> 01:09:06,500 path to being you know kind of an elite receiving back. 1334 01:09:07,300 --> 01:09:10,000 I'm much more skeptical of that. Now, after this year, I mean he 1335 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:12,000 hasn't really flashed that in a sophomore year. 1336 01:09:12,008 --> 01:09:14,399 And I think if he was going to emerge as that type of back, we 1337 01:09:14,399 --> 01:09:16,300 would have, we would have seen more as a receiver this year. 1338 01:09:18,300 --> 01:09:21,300 Do we have any? I haven't heard the Devi. 1339 01:09:21,300 --> 01:09:26,100 Takes like, do we have any takes on how good this upcoming draft 1340 01:09:26,100 --> 01:09:30,100 classes? I don't very good, I don't dive 1341 01:09:30,100 --> 01:09:32,500 not very good. Well I mean that was the take 1342 01:09:32,500 --> 01:09:34,500 for most of the year. I don't know how it finished up. 1343 01:09:35,100 --> 01:09:37,300 I know there's some guys whatever like Drake London is 1344 01:09:37,300 --> 01:09:39,700 supposed to be really good. I don't know if he's like the 1345 01:09:39,700 --> 01:09:41,800 top. Oh, that dude, from Arkansas. 1346 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:46,300 I don't know his name. The, the Ohio State receivers. 1347 01:09:46,300 --> 01:09:49,000 There's, there's several, like, pretty good receivers I think, 1348 01:09:49,000 --> 01:09:52,700 but there's not like, supposed to be great, quarterbacks, the 1349 01:09:52,700 --> 01:09:58,800 mocs have most of the, the NFL mock drafts have And what's his 1350 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,700 face from Michigan going first, right? 1351 01:10:00,700 --> 01:10:03,700 The DN Aidan, Hutchinson or something. 1352 01:10:04,900 --> 01:10:07,500 Yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean I'm not the guy to ask 1353 01:10:07,700 --> 01:10:10,300 it's been way more time watching NFL and college football in the 1354 01:10:10,308 --> 01:10:13,800 fall but I will say like pulling back. 1355 01:10:14,500 --> 01:10:17,400 I do feel like this this wide receiver class you know, 1356 01:10:17,400 --> 01:10:20,700 injuries and stuff with standing has been pretty impressive. 1357 01:10:20,800 --> 01:10:22,400 Yeah. I'm the whole yeah. 1358 01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:24,000 I feel good about defending the wide receiver class. 1359 01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:26,700 Could it got kind of tagged is like this a little tiny group of 1360 01:10:27,100 --> 01:10:29,700 like whatever wide receivers. It's would if this was a good 1361 01:10:29,700 --> 01:10:33,500 wide receiver class, I'm excited to see it if the incoming one is 1362 01:10:33,500 --> 01:10:39,000 good. Got a shot baby that's about 1363 01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,300 Rashad Bateman because this was an interesting one, where I was 1364 01:10:41,300 --> 01:10:43,800 like, oh, it looks like his snaps were increasing. 1365 01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:46,300 Then all of a sudden he just has that game. 1366 01:10:46,300 --> 01:10:47,400 What? Two weeks ago? 1367 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,400 Where Watkins just completely. Yeah, slaps him again. 1368 01:10:50,500 --> 01:10:54,600 And then Lamar looks gets hurt and that they've, it looks just 1369 01:10:54,600 --> 01:10:58,200 like an All-Pro. Yeah, it looks like a stud. 1370 01:10:59,100 --> 01:11:02,500 I don't know. I mean, he had that run where he 1371 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:04,800 did that spin, like, after he caught it and then he gets It's 1372 01:11:04,800 --> 01:11:07,300 a field he cuts inside. I'm like because if he cut 1373 01:11:07,300 --> 01:11:10,400 outside their, I think like he could have had another 15 yards 1374 01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:14,300 on on top, but he's got the he's he looks very natural out there, 1375 01:11:14,300 --> 01:11:16,600 you know, looks like just like very fluid. 1376 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,200 So I'm excited about Bateman. He's up to one point six, four 1377 01:11:19,200 --> 01:11:20,300 yards per hour which is pretty good. 1378 01:11:20,300 --> 01:11:22,000 It's actually just a hair behind a bunch of Smith. 1379 01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:27,100 By the way, 1.67, he's had a solid season, but, you know, I 1380 01:11:27,100 --> 01:11:30,600 think if we get Bateman the little bit of quarterback play, 1381 01:11:30,900 --> 01:11:34,200 I'm at like a I would like to see some Josh Johnson now that 1382 01:11:34,200 --> 01:11:36,500 they signed him. Off the Jets suddenly is not 1383 01:11:36,500 --> 01:11:39,200 been very good. I know, you know, we can do 1384 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:41,400 stuff with his legs but I merely shots. 1385 01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:45,500 It bike high school. Buddy went to school with Josh 1386 01:11:45,500 --> 01:11:47,300 Johnson at the University of San Diego. 1387 01:11:47,300 --> 01:11:50,500 That's how I just can't get excited about a guy who is in 1388 01:11:50,500 --> 01:11:53,600 college at the same time as me. Unless his name is Tom Brady. 1389 01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:01,600 Well, the trail and Burkes was was a guy that was thrown out. 1390 01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:03,100 I think he's supposed to be really good. 1391 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:04,800 Yeah. But he's our Consolidated. 1392 01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:08,100 Yeah. He was like popping in the 1393 01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:13,200 various metrics. Um, all right, this is a fun 1394 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:15,300 one. Why we're just doing our 2020 to 1395 01:12:15,300 --> 01:12:17,900 look ahead cup. Tyree kill Justin Jefferson 1396 01:12:17,900 --> 01:12:22,300 Davante Adams to March a Stefon Diggs Debo Samuel any other 1397 01:12:22,300 --> 01:12:25,800 clear wide receivers in the first two rounds and do we have 1398 01:12:25,800 --> 01:12:28,500 any objections to To Andrews, clear. 1399 01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:33,900 First two wide receivers. I don't think Devo gets here if 1400 01:12:33,900 --> 01:12:35,900 he keeps being used. I agree. 1401 01:12:36,700 --> 01:12:39,600 I don't think Depots in there. Yeah, I think anybody's more 1402 01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,700 like a, who's 3rd or 4th brother, I mean, people are 1403 01:12:43,700 --> 01:12:45,900 freaking out about the receptions for the record, dude, 1404 01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:50,800 still ran over 80%, a rat on over 80% of drawbacks this week 1405 01:12:50,800 --> 01:12:52,800 and he has been up the last few weeks. 1406 01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:55,800 Think part of the reason he's not catching any passes is like, 1407 01:12:55,800 --> 01:12:58,200 he is running shorter routes now but they're getting the ball 1408 01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:01,300 vertically to kid'll, right? And their get like and then also 1409 01:13:01,300 --> 01:13:03,500 he's been making Plays not running game that like they're 1410 01:13:03,500 --> 01:13:06,100 just doing that. But if that stops, they're going 1411 01:13:06,100 --> 01:13:08,500 to get the ball to music key. Part of their offense, I don't 1412 01:13:08,500 --> 01:13:10,800 think he's got it. I think Depot is going to have 1413 01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:13,000 it on the 5th game, pretty quick, and then people are like, 1414 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,100 oh, it's not. Yeah, you're probably right. 1415 01:13:15,100 --> 01:13:18,100 Like the routes are there. But I do think there's enough 1416 01:13:18,100 --> 01:13:21,400 concern now that I you got back and that was sort of our concern 1417 01:13:21,400 --> 01:13:23,000 coming in that. I don't think he ends up being 1418 01:13:23,000 --> 01:13:24,900 to talk to Rick. He's not going to project 1419 01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:26,700 awesome either. Yeah, because you're going to 1420 01:13:26,700 --> 01:13:28,900 need to spread out the targets, San Francisco. 1421 01:13:28,900 --> 01:13:31,700 You're going to project for low overall volume, you're not 1422 01:13:31,700 --> 01:13:34,100 going. Project outline it all for his 1423 01:13:34,100 --> 01:13:36,700 absurd efficiency than he always has. 1424 01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,300 But then like you're going to be under projecting Kettle. 1425 01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,700 So that might like, It's just tough to make San Francisco, the 1426 01:13:42,700 --> 01:13:45,500 math work on San Francisco. So they're all probably gonna be 1427 01:13:45,500 --> 01:13:49,200 a little bit under projected, most likely and then especially 1428 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:52,500 if they're Acropolis going, Because then you can put the 1429 01:13:52,500 --> 01:13:55,000 laughs, they're pass attempt, projections are going to be very 1430 01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:56,400 low. Yeah. 1431 01:13:56,400 --> 01:13:59,700 Also for sure I made I agree with this. 1432 01:13:59,700 --> 01:14:03,500 Take I mean if cup hat could just continues what he's doing 1433 01:14:03,500 --> 01:14:05,500 in the playoffs. Yeah I think people will take 1434 01:14:05,500 --> 01:14:08,000 him in the top five, right, 100%. 1435 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:10,900 I mean, it's like Antonio Brown type of thing, right? 1436 01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:12,600 Yes. Yes. 1437 01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,300 Oh you take them 103 or whatever? 1438 01:14:14,500 --> 01:14:16,100 I think you probably will go there. 1439 01:14:16,500 --> 01:14:20,600 Yeah, the best too high. That's too high for me. 1440 01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:23,700 I'd rather bet On almost any of those other guys that Andrew 1441 01:14:23,700 --> 01:14:26,800 mentioned, maybe is that dumb? Is that a fish? 1442 01:14:26,900 --> 01:14:29,000 I think, that's right. I think that's right person. 1443 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:30,600 I don't know that. That's right. 1444 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,700 He's got a yards per hour over three. 1445 01:14:32,900 --> 01:14:35,000 Make like baby. Digs cert. 1446 01:14:35,700 --> 01:14:39,000 Yeah, I think he's exactly is, but that's the point, like he 1447 01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:44,500 can't back that up at age. 30. He just did it at age 29, so I 1448 01:14:44,500 --> 01:14:48,600 don't think he is. He 29-28 maybe? 1449 01:14:50,200 --> 01:14:52,200 Yeah, he's 28. So I and you know, he could do 1450 01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:56,000 that 29. I don't know he's doing it 28. 1451 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,600 It's like 29 times. It's really kind of like digs. 1452 01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:02,700 You know I was betting that that yeah breakout would just stay 1453 01:15:02,700 --> 01:15:06,500 and he still been good but like it's tough to be that efficient. 1454 01:15:06,500 --> 01:15:09,900 I mean this is still a pretty small sample of what he's done. 1455 01:15:10,300 --> 01:15:14,000 Yeah that's fair. I do think with, with cup you 1456 01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:19,000 are looking at like He's not gonna if I mean, you know, is 1457 01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:20,000 this? We saw this year? 1458 01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:21,900 It's crazy. The NFL season is always a 1459 01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:24,400 thousand times crazier than you think it's going to be even if 1460 01:15:24,400 --> 01:15:26,900 you tell yourself, you, you understand it. 1461 01:15:26,900 --> 01:15:31,900 But it does feel like cup has to get hurt, not to not to be 1462 01:15:31,900 --> 01:15:33,900 awesome in this offense with Stafford. 1463 01:15:34,100 --> 01:15:36,200 Like, you know what I mean? Like, you're at but good. 1464 01:15:36,200 --> 01:15:39,100 Good awesome. Not this awesome. 1465 01:15:39,100 --> 01:15:40,100 Like what? He's done this. 1466 01:15:40,100 --> 01:15:42,200 Not this awesome. Yeah, yeah. 1467 01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,400 Hey good. Bertos baiting you right now. 1468 01:15:46,900 --> 01:15:48,200 Yeah. No I think they will be skills. 1469 01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:51,300 Don't worry. I'll be drafting them next year. 1470 01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,500 I just Wars gonna be on hate every one of my fucking team's 1471 01:15:54,500 --> 01:15:56,900 next year. What's his deal? 1472 01:15:56,900 --> 01:16:00,500 Like can you get out of there somehow I want. 1473 01:16:00,500 --> 01:16:01,600 Rule gone, man. Rule. 1474 01:16:02,300 --> 01:16:03,800 Once you fired, you over 80, I'm out on you. 1475 01:16:04,200 --> 01:16:07,100 I know that sucks. That's because she they're going 1476 01:16:07,100 --> 01:16:08,500 to fit your option. I'm right. 1477 01:16:08,500 --> 01:16:12,700 Can't Yeah, it's a pretty good read until 2023. 1478 01:16:13,300 --> 01:16:18,200 But so My Hope Is, they will get a quarterback because they, I 1479 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:19,800 mean they were in on DeShaun Watson. 1480 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:25,100 They went and got Donald, they were there was talks about when 1481 01:16:25,100 --> 01:16:27,700 Rogers wanted out that he, that would be a landing spot. 1482 01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,500 They seem to be kicking their tires on, kicking the tires on, 1483 01:16:31,500 --> 01:16:33,500 like, basically any quarterback that's available. 1484 01:16:33,500 --> 01:16:36,100 I think that part of the reason I didn't take Fields, was the 1485 01:16:36,100 --> 01:16:38,300 Roger stuff, right? Then it was, it was right at the 1486 01:16:38,300 --> 01:16:41,400 draft and they were like, we don't want to draft the first 1487 01:16:41,400 --> 01:16:43,400 round quarterback. Like the Packers just did with 1488 01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:45,200 Jordan love. We want to be as open as as 1489 01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:48,000 possible to be the team that Aaron Rodgers lands with 1490 01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:50,900 basically that. I mean, that's the only thing 1491 01:16:50,900 --> 01:16:53,900 that made sense to me for them. And frankly, the Broncos to both 1492 01:16:53,900 --> 01:16:57,200 passing on, on fields and Mac Jones like those teams were 1493 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,800 like, well, if Rogers is available, we don't want to have 1494 01:16:59,800 --> 01:17:02,200 just taken a top-10 quarterback. That's why he wants out of Green 1495 01:17:02,200 --> 01:17:03,700 Bay. They took a first rank you beat, 1496 01:17:04,900 --> 01:17:06,700 but also, I'm much more open to the idea that they were 1497 01:17:06,700 --> 01:17:08,900 mismanaged now. Yeah, that's true, too. 1498 01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:10,800 Because I don't, I don't trust them anymore. 1499 01:17:14,500 --> 01:17:17,600 Yeah, there was another interesting one in here. 1500 01:17:19,300 --> 01:17:22,000 People are mammals on that top to round receiver list. 1501 01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:24,500 You guys think? Deante Johnson goes that high. 1502 01:17:25,100 --> 01:17:28,800 Oh God. No no, I think with with Johnson 1503 01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:35,100 you have to I think have to be a little bit skeptical about how 1504 01:17:35,100 --> 01:17:36,800 he translates to another quarterback. 1505 01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:40,900 I mean, not that it really matters, but but then who's the 1506 01:17:40,900 --> 01:17:43,500 backup and deante Johnson but he's retiring. 1507 01:17:43,900 --> 01:17:47,200 No, no, I'm saying it does matter because then, yeah, King 1508 01:17:47,200 --> 01:17:49,000 loves got a chance. You have to be concerned about 1509 01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:52,000 him without been, right? And Rudolph wasn't looking to 1510 01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:54,800 Johnson the way Ben does, you know? 1511 01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:58,600 Because no one, no one does, but I don't know. 1512 01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,700 I mean, I think Johnson's a really good receiver. 1513 01:18:00,700 --> 01:18:03,500 He gets open easily, he does what he does. 1514 01:18:03,500 --> 01:18:07,500 Like really, really Well, but I would love to have him kind of 1515 01:18:07,500 --> 01:18:10,400 in the range where he's a teepee was this year because you're 1516 01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:13,100 getting, maybe a quarterback upgrade maybe but you're also 1517 01:18:13,100 --> 01:18:17,000 losing that connection. So yeah, I think he's kind of in 1518 01:18:17,000 --> 01:18:19,900 the fifth round. I'd be in but you guys I think 1519 01:18:19,900 --> 01:18:21,500 we're meant something that probably is. 1520 01:18:21,600 --> 01:18:27,700 Here's kind of a take, I think as we move forward, broadly, the 1521 01:18:27,700 --> 01:18:30,700 way that, I mean, there's a lot of good receivers, there's more 1522 01:18:30,700 --> 01:18:32,700 good receivers now because there's more teams that are 1523 01:18:32,700 --> 01:18:34,100 running three receivers out there. 1524 01:18:34,100 --> 01:18:36,900 There's more Vertical in just more past happy offenses. 1525 01:18:36,900 --> 01:18:40,600 They can catch a lot of passes, like, Deonte emerged from 1526 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:43,400 Pittsburgh, but there were multiple plays plays in that 1527 01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:47,200 offense, that we're going in the top ten rounds in a cup, you 1528 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:51,700 know, ends up emerging out of a. But what I'm trying to say is in 1529 01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,100 a teepee next year, at receiver, in the first sort of 10 Rounds, 1530 01:18:55,100 --> 01:18:56,800 I think it'll settle in somewhere. 1531 01:18:56,900 --> 01:19:00,200 They'll be guys, that people will make as you know, good 1532 01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:03,400 value cases, they'll get hype, they'll move up because it 1533 01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:04,900 probably should be going high. Fire. 1534 01:19:04,900 --> 01:19:08,100 But that will push other guys down that probably shouldn't be 1535 01:19:08,100 --> 01:19:09,900 going as low. I mean, like think about like a 1536 01:19:09,907 --> 01:19:12,900 Terry McLaren, like it's had a rough year. 1537 01:19:12,900 --> 01:19:15,700 I bet he's like a sixth, seventh round or next year and then 1538 01:19:15,700 --> 01:19:17,000 people are going to say is a good value. 1539 01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,900 Might move up. I my point is I think there's 1540 01:19:19,900 --> 01:19:22,500 going to be shuffling with some guys like this like Deonte 1541 01:19:22,500 --> 01:19:25,400 whether it's quarterback changes and there's going to be points 1542 01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:27,600 in the offseason where you can draft some of these different 1543 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,100 receivers like more shuffling than we've seen in the past 1544 01:19:30,100 --> 01:19:32,000 obviously there always is. We're just looking at the draft 1545 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:35,300 board. Whether it was but I don't know. 1546 01:19:35,300 --> 01:19:38,000 Do you guys think that's a fair thing that it seems you 1547 01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,600 flattered me. It seems flattered to me from 1548 01:19:40,600 --> 01:19:44,000 around 32 round 8, you know. But you are he's mature. 1549 01:19:44,000 --> 01:19:46,000 He's gonna move up and down, based on what happens with the 1550 01:19:46,000 --> 01:19:49,000 quarterback. Yeah, and even just guys who are 1551 01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:53,200 going to stay down, like Marquis Brown did last offseason when he 1552 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,500 was higher the year before because you had kind of a Down 1553 01:19:55,500 --> 01:19:57,300 year, but the case was the same, right? 1554 01:19:57,300 --> 01:20:00,200 They just like and then now this year, he's had a very good year. 1555 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:03,400 There's going to be seven cups, another example, this were like, 1556 01:20:03,700 --> 01:20:05,600 For several years. He was just sort of in the same 1557 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,500 round and now he's finally hitting that ceiling like Mike 1558 01:20:08,500 --> 01:20:10,400 Williams. There's a lot of dude. 1559 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,000 Yeah, Mike Williams. There's a lot of dudes. 1560 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:14,700 It will have ceiling in these ranges that. 1561 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,400 You know what is T Higgins goes. He gonna say he probably ends 1562 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:21,400 right in the same spot he was last year but like Because Chase 1563 01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:23,200 is going to go higher than in probably. 1564 01:20:23,600 --> 01:20:25,600 I mean, I think he goes more locked in. 1565 01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:29,300 I think he's more like locked in where more was going in that 1566 01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:32,200 early fourth round. Third round late. 1567 01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:34,400 Third early fourth. Yeah, I think he's right on 1568 01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:37,100 that. 3/4 turn. Like, but he, but he doesn't 1569 01:20:37,100 --> 01:20:39,300 Shuffle. The, he's just like a feature of 1570 01:20:39,300 --> 01:20:41,500 the three. Four turn for the whole, I think 1571 01:20:41,500 --> 01:20:44,000 your season. I think both those dudes Chase 1572 01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,900 and Higgins going to go so high. And then Burrows, going to get 1573 01:20:45,900 --> 01:20:48,100 pulled up because of it and probably rightfully. 1574 01:20:48,100 --> 01:20:51,500 So, I mean, they're 21 and 22. There's Be hard to see those 1575 01:20:51,500 --> 01:20:54,300 guys slip but some of these others Darnell Mooney, I'm 1576 01:20:54,300 --> 01:20:57,500 looking at the list right now, like they're going to move 1577 01:20:57,500 --> 01:20:59,600 around and some of them have upside some of them. 1578 01:21:00,400 --> 01:21:02,500 Maybe, don't I buying money which what are your thoughts on 1579 01:21:02,500 --> 01:21:04,900 the knee? He's been pretty good man and he 1580 01:21:04,907 --> 01:21:09,400 was like a pretty underrated producer, Tulane and I mean, I 1581 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,200 believe in fields. So yeah, I mean, I kind of am 1582 01:21:12,200 --> 01:21:14,600 now and I was kind of overlooking in this past 1583 01:21:14,600 --> 01:21:18,500 offseason actually quite a bit of a whole article on second 1584 01:21:18,500 --> 01:21:22,500 round or second year receivers. And I looked at the draft class 1585 01:21:22,500 --> 01:21:25,300 and I completely forgot about me because he was undrafted like, I 1586 01:21:25,300 --> 01:21:26,900 went through the settings if it's brown Pig. 1587 01:21:27,700 --> 01:21:31,600 Oh you mean an ATP? Oh no, I was looking at draft 1588 01:21:31,800 --> 01:21:33,900 draft class so I must have missed him or something but I 1589 01:21:33,900 --> 01:21:37,900 think I've completely left them off my left of off my right up 1590 01:21:37,900 --> 01:21:39,800 and someone mentioned it to me. I was like, man. 1591 01:21:39,800 --> 01:21:42,200 Yeah, I have not given me enough but I went with this profiles, I 1592 01:21:42,208 --> 01:21:43,700 guess profiles. Like not bad. 1593 01:21:44,300 --> 01:21:46,600 He's had a good year again. To like, why wouldn't we be on 1594 01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:48,900 it? And a bad situation. 1595 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,900 Yeah, he's been very good for his situation. 1596 01:21:54,400 --> 01:21:57,200 I agree with that. I don't know that situation. 1597 01:21:57,200 --> 01:21:59,200 I mean, I guess it. That's another one pens with a 1598 01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,300 situation gets better. I'm still a little bit skeptical 1599 01:22:01,300 --> 01:22:04,400 and money. Okay, I'm not I'm not out at 1600 01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:07,700 all, I'm a, he's won me over to a large degree, but I'm still 1601 01:22:07,700 --> 01:22:09,900 like a little, a little skeptical. 1602 01:22:09,900 --> 01:22:12,500 That's like one of the guys were, I feel like I need to do 1603 01:22:12,500 --> 01:22:15,800 some sort of objective exercise with to like, you know what I 1604 01:22:15,808 --> 01:22:17,900 mean? Because I I'm like, We're going 1605 01:22:17,900 --> 01:22:21,200 to see the ATP and then be like too high, you know. 1606 01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:22,700 Yeah. And it might not be too high. 1607 01:22:23,100 --> 01:22:27,200 I mean this is the thing I would say about him because he's an 1608 01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:28,700 Area Arts guy. Like he's gonna get vertical 1609 01:22:28,700 --> 01:22:32,600 passes. That his targets is Target rate 1610 01:22:32,600 --> 01:22:33,900 this year. Has been impressive, Target 1611 01:22:33,900 --> 01:22:35,500 Sprout, run, all that stuff like it. 1612 01:22:35,500 --> 01:22:39,000 Even as Robinson has been like somebody that teams don't even 1613 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:41,200 need to pay attention to like Moonies been their number one, 1614 01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:44,300 pretty much all year and he's been Yeah, that's good. 1615 01:22:44,500 --> 01:22:45,900 Yeah, he's wrong. I'm basically all year. 1616 01:22:46,100 --> 01:22:48,900 Yeah, what about DeAndre Hopkins? 1617 01:22:48,900 --> 01:22:52,600 Because you look at the like fall off from Allen Robinson. 1618 01:22:53,100 --> 01:22:54,900 I like, who's the guy in the next guy? 1619 01:22:54,900 --> 01:22:58,000 Who could maybe have that type of like just fall from grace, 1620 01:22:58,600 --> 01:23:02,500 pretty similar type of player to enter Hopkins, did not have a 1621 01:23:02,508 --> 01:23:06,200 good year this year. It's got it. 1622 01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:08,000 I feel like it's gotta run out from Mike Evans. 1623 01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:12,900 Eventually Keenan Allen? And you're saying like for like 1624 01:23:12,900 --> 01:23:17,200 I'm a stupid one. Yeah, I'm saying who who gets 1625 01:23:17,200 --> 01:23:22,600 drafted in like the third round? But you know, Evans won't get 1626 01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,100 draft in the third round, but I think he qualifies like, who 1627 01:23:25,100 --> 01:23:28,800 gets drafted like fairly early in his just like dust. 1628 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,800 Yeah. It could be Evans. 1629 01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,700 I mean, Keenan Allen will probably go high again. 1630 01:23:33,700 --> 01:23:35,700 He's been really good but I think there are some wearing 1631 01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:37,300 concerns with him. That's it. 1632 01:23:37,300 --> 01:23:41,500 That's an interesting one too. Yeah, it and that one's a tough 1633 01:23:41,500 --> 01:23:43,900 one, right? Because it's not like, I mean, 1634 01:23:43,900 --> 01:23:47,300 Evans makes more sense, right? Because if the thesis is Brady 1635 01:23:47,300 --> 01:23:49,500 does eventually fall off a cliff. 1636 01:23:49,500 --> 01:23:52,300 Yeah, but that's where it's like Justin Herbert looks like a 1637 01:23:52,308 --> 01:23:56,300 fucking Superstar right? Like yeah I'd rather bet against 1638 01:23:56,300 --> 01:23:59,700 Evans with Brady that I would even Keenan with Justin Herbert. 1639 01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:01,700 I don't want to admit this. Sure. 1640 01:24:01,700 --> 01:24:05,800 And and least we need a black this out from the histories of 1641 01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:07,900 the, the annals of history. But if you want, someone who's 1642 01:24:07,900 --> 01:24:09,800 going to go really high, that I was a shot at this. 1643 01:24:10,700 --> 01:24:15,400 It's digs man like this. He had the career year and this 1644 01:24:15,400 --> 01:24:19,300 year has been you're right. This year's been a little bit 1645 01:24:19,300 --> 01:24:24,000 disappointing from an efficiency standpoint it's not one point 1646 01:24:24,000 --> 01:24:25,200 nine. Eight years for our on like 1647 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:29,500 let's not let's not like get all that worried about Stefon Diggs. 1648 01:24:29,500 --> 01:24:31,600 He's still tied To Joshua Allen, he's still tight. 1649 01:24:31,600 --> 01:24:34,000 He's gonna pass up you off and now they got rid of day ball or 1650 01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:37,200 something. I'd be more inclined to agree. 1651 01:24:38,600 --> 01:24:40,600 I actually don't think that makes you feel a lot better. 1652 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:41,800 I didn't head of yours forever on. 1653 01:24:42,200 --> 01:24:44,800 I didn't realize he was that high in years pro and that's 1654 01:24:45,500 --> 01:24:47,500 good to hear because he still had some explosive games. 1655 01:24:47,500 --> 01:24:51,700 Like he's still flashed the UPS. Yeah and he runs it runs a ton 1656 01:24:51,700 --> 01:24:54,800 of routes. He's run 490 routes this year at 1657 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:57,500 it's probably among the highest in the league. 1658 01:24:58,200 --> 01:25:01,000 Yeah he's third in the league in routes run behind Chris. 1659 01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,500 I mean like I'm obviously biased because I was convinced digs was 1660 01:25:04,500 --> 01:25:08,300 about to go on and Antonio Brown stretch of Of leading the league 1661 01:25:08,300 --> 01:25:11,300 in receptions in yards for multiple seasons and so like my 1662 01:25:11,300 --> 01:25:14,000 expectations were just way too high coming into this year. 1663 01:25:14,000 --> 01:25:17,200 So the fact that I mean the stats are giving a great. 1664 01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:23,500 I mean I'm over reacting to my too high expectations. 1665 01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:29,000 You guys want to finish with a gauntlet draft on Underdog? 1666 01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,400 Sure what is laughs draft, playoff draft? 1667 01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,700 Let's do it laughs draft. What? 1668 01:25:33,700 --> 01:25:35,900 I mean are the Patriots still cheap as hell like last time we 1669 01:25:35,907 --> 01:25:37,500 did it. What are the moves together? 1670 01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:39,500 Making. Hi Mom. 1671 01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:42,800 I honestly have it. They filled their first 1672 01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,200 tournament and they just released this one fucking two 1673 01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:50,500 hundred thousand dollars up top. Playoff picture starting to come 1674 01:25:50,500 --> 01:25:54,400 into focus a little bit. Seems like we're going to get 1675 01:25:54,407 --> 01:25:59,200 the Chargers. Titans seem like a lock. 1676 01:26:00,900 --> 01:26:03,500 By the way, real quick, Berto throughout Amari Cooper for this 1677 01:26:03,500 --> 01:26:06,200 conversation of the dust balls. All and I think he's actually 1678 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,700 really interesting one too. Yeah, good call. 1679 01:26:10,300 --> 01:26:13,300 Looks like he feels like, I mean, he was going, what, like 1680 01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:17,200 late third, early forth like this, right? 1681 01:26:17,400 --> 01:26:19,500 Yeah. Neither does Lock It. 1682 01:26:19,500 --> 01:26:22,100 Go that high again. I mean, lock, it has 1,000-yard 1683 01:26:22,100 --> 01:26:24,600 season already. I mean, he might end up, he 1684 01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:26,400 should be another one. I would put on that list. 1685 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,300 That's an interesting one. I would be still in unlock it. 1686 01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:34,400 He's actually an awesome this year that you see what's been 1687 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:37,400 really good efficiency was, but yeah I'd still be in. 1688 01:26:38,900 --> 01:26:40,600 Obviously that assumes Russ's back. 1689 01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:43,400 People are right. God talking about I hope I can 1690 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:44,900 trust is gone. Please leave. 1691 01:26:45,900 --> 01:26:47,500 Let's go somewhere. Go somewhere, they appreciate 1692 01:26:47,500 --> 01:26:48,400 you. Come on man. 1693 01:26:49,400 --> 01:26:52,900 They just need a fire Pete. I mean or fire people or fired? 1694 01:26:52,900 --> 01:26:53,900 Yes. Yeah. 1695 01:26:56,500 --> 01:26:59,600 We just a day. Where, who else do you guys toss 1696 01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:00,400 in there? We get Pete. 1697 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:02,200 Carroll. We get Urban Meyer. 1698 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:05,000 Who else is on our Dream? Oh, Maggie. 1699 01:27:05,100 --> 01:27:07,300 Is that Iggy? Yeah, to fireless. 1700 01:27:08,100 --> 01:27:10,500 Yeah. All right, so you can only pick 1701 01:27:10,500 --> 01:27:12,600 one coach in the league who gets fired this. 1702 01:27:12,700 --> 01:27:15,000 This offseason is night now, use your pick. 1703 01:27:15,100 --> 01:27:20,100 I'm taking Iggy for sure. No question in my mind, although 1704 01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:23,500 the problem is is that the case you made last week which is that 1705 01:27:23,500 --> 01:27:24,500 they're just going to fuck it higher. 1706 01:27:24,500 --> 01:27:25,500 The next match, Yeah. Yeah. 1707 01:27:25,500 --> 01:27:29,300 That totally nailed that last also, 1708 01:27:44,600 --> 01:27:49,200 can we get one season with just a fucking pass first air raid. 1709 01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:52,400 Coach, like, can we just get that we deserve? 1710 01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,300 Agreed. I think Carol's the, the Answer 1711 01:27:55,300 --> 01:27:59,700 for me too. Because with I mean now you 1712 01:27:59,700 --> 01:28:02,600 probably number two for me but you have the quarterback 1713 01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:04,200 situation. Hey, we're almost what we do. 1714 01:28:04,700 --> 01:28:08,400 Oh, you're right. I think he'll or God winter. 1715 01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:14,700 Awesome pics. let me know, seems like Pretty sweet. 1716 01:28:14,800 --> 01:28:18,200 So yeah, I mean, Tampa Bay has better Super Bowl odds, Tyree 1717 01:28:18,200 --> 01:28:21,800 kill higher ceiling. As is do it player, this is very 1718 01:28:21,800 --> 01:28:24,100 cool. All right white, my mouse is 1719 01:28:24,100 --> 01:28:26,400 fucking tweaking but it's fine. We're at the top of the queue. 1720 01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:30,600 Here we go. Oh, and Willis. 1721 01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:34,500 What's Willis going to do? And sure we got Sherman here. 1722 01:28:34,500 --> 01:28:40,000 Oh no. We know well so let's see what 1723 01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:42,100 Willis dizzy stack? Okay, so he goes dig. 1724 01:28:42,100 --> 01:28:46,300 So do you guys want to go Kelsey play this through? 1725 01:28:46,300 --> 01:28:48,100 Or do you want to maybe go to Kelsey? 1726 01:28:48,100 --> 01:28:50,700 And because if they're going to Super Bowl Kelsey comes back 1727 01:28:50,700 --> 01:28:52,400 alive. Yeah, true. 1728 01:28:57,100 --> 01:28:58,400 And we figure out our quarterback. 1729 01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,600 Some some, right, it can come from the NSC team. 1730 01:29:01,100 --> 01:29:08,800 Yeah. The Godwin, the God, I feel like 1731 01:29:08,900 --> 01:29:11,500 so I was starting to look at because I was looking at the 1732 01:29:11,500 --> 01:29:15,000 Owners Club stuff, which is a similar kind of concept to these 1733 01:29:15,000 --> 01:29:19,500 drafts and the ffp. See, in the AFC, I feel like 1734 01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:22,600 it's just such a riddle with how you want to play it. 1735 01:29:22,600 --> 01:29:25,300 Like the Pats look like the best bet. 1736 01:29:25,300 --> 01:29:27,800 But from just a fantasy perspective they're just not 1737 01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:31,000 that inspiring. And then who are you making bets 1738 01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:32,400 on? I mean you can make a case is 1739 01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:34,600 she's not looking very inspiring for set. 1740 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:38,300 That's what I mean to. Like, I don't want to, I mean, 1741 01:29:38,300 --> 01:29:41,900 this team aside I don't want to make like bets on the Chiefs to 1742 01:29:41,900 --> 01:29:45,400 make a Deep Run. Especially the weather offenses. 1743 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,700 Played like your defense is coming on though. 1744 01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:51,000 Yeah. And I don't know, are they like 1745 01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,900 a really exciting upside? Offense. 1746 01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,300 I think that it's so concentrated that is you know, I 1747 01:29:59,300 --> 01:30:02,800 guess I'm not that excited to draft like Mahomes and then 1748 01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:04,800 stack them with like backdoor stack him. 1749 01:30:05,300 --> 01:30:07,600 I'd rather go like we did. Just get the two guys and move 1750 01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:12,900 on but I am excited about that. I think All right, let's see 1751 01:30:12,900 --> 01:30:15,100 here. I like this Cooper cup Tom 1752 01:30:15,100 --> 01:30:20,000 Brady. Yeah, or I mean, I don't know. 1753 01:30:20,000 --> 01:30:22,700 I don't want to offend anyone who might be watching but that's 1754 01:30:22,700 --> 01:30:25,500 not a not the way that I would play it to take. 1755 01:30:25,500 --> 01:30:31,000 Tom Brady, when I started with cup, let's see here. 1756 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:34,300 So it do if Mahomes Falls to us, this is fun. 1757 01:30:34,500 --> 01:30:36,800 I mean we have we take Mom's we take them homes. 1758 01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:40,900 Now I was holding my breath. Yeah, I was kind of I heard even 1759 01:30:40,900 --> 01:30:43,600 I was listening to her. Hurt Sig on the Pod with Leone 1760 01:30:43,600 --> 01:30:46,400 and he said, he only got this combo one time in the, in the 1761 01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:50,100 first tournament. I mean, it's pretty sweet when 1762 01:30:50,100 --> 01:30:55,100 you stack Hill. Kelsey It makes it hard for 1763 01:30:55,100 --> 01:30:56,600 anyone else to take him home. So what do I mean? 1764 01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,900 I think it'd be suboptimal for anyone else to take my home's. 1765 01:30:59,500 --> 01:31:01,900 It would especially, because the dynamic we were talking about 1766 01:31:01,900 --> 01:31:05,100 where it's not like that Hive octane of an office. 1767 01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:06,800 All right. So now we need to pick. 1768 01:31:07,400 --> 01:31:15,800 We got to pick an NFC bet here. Preferably not quarterback, we 1769 01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:18,900 could go. I don't like Connor, but I like, 1770 01:31:18,900 --> 01:31:21,500 I mean, I certainly like betting on the Cardinals, but and 1771 01:31:21,500 --> 01:31:26,200 Hawkins is hurt now. Yeah, Dallas May Be Dancing. 1772 01:31:26,200 --> 01:31:29,800 Yeah, I think we throwing me out GoGo Mari. 1773 01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:31,700 Coming or Lambs lambs still there? 1774 01:31:32,000 --> 01:31:35,700 No, Lambs gone, Kumari. All right, we'll go Mari. 1775 01:31:37,700 --> 01:31:41,200 I do think that is one of the edges right now like in you look 1776 01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:44,700 and you see some of these teams that aren't super correlated 1777 01:31:44,700 --> 01:31:48,600 like a cup. Brady CH, I do you think that's 1778 01:31:48,600 --> 01:31:51,700 where you throw ATP? To focus on the team 1779 01:31:51,700 --> 01:31:53,800 correlation. Is really how you get your Edge 1780 01:31:53,800 --> 01:31:56,600 in these? Yeah, the winner last year was 1781 01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,600 all three. Three themes. 1782 01:31:59,100 --> 01:32:04,400 I saw it at some point in the last couple weeks it was all The 1783 01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,200 Box Chiefs and then the brown. So had a few, a few Browns. 1784 01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:09,100 I think to help for those first couple weeks because they have 1785 01:32:09,100 --> 01:32:11,900 the big games is that right? Did you guys post it last week 1786 01:32:11,900 --> 01:32:13,200 month? Let me talk to ya soon. 1787 01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:17,200 Okay, I I have it. Yeah, it was a Tampa Bay and 1788 01:32:17,200 --> 01:32:21,800 Casey studs mixed in with a brown skill position on and that 1789 01:32:21,800 --> 01:32:24,700 was like, you know, the three of the last four picks were the 1790 01:32:24,700 --> 01:32:26,600 Browns. It was all hammering Casey. 1791 01:32:26,600 --> 01:32:28,800 And then the very last Peg was for net and that was obviously 1792 01:32:28,800 --> 01:32:31,800 the key like, get for that, right? 1793 01:32:32,100 --> 01:32:33,500 Which for us would be like Darrell Williams. 1794 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:35,800 Seems if we got him in the last round, maybe he ends up, you 1795 01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:38,400 know, having a great but he probably doesn't go that late. 1796 01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,700 I don't know. Are we going to be forced to 1797 01:32:41,700 --> 01:32:44,500 take zikr? Do we want to grab Pollard and 1798 01:32:44,500 --> 01:32:48,900 just fucking Galloping this? I mean, I could I could do on 1799 01:32:48,900 --> 01:32:51,600 board with Zeke here, for sure. And like is this the type of 1800 01:32:51,600 --> 01:32:53,700 thing where you could just go Zeke and Pollard if we get 1801 01:32:53,700 --> 01:32:56,300 hollered last round? So that case, I don't you go. 1802 01:32:56,900 --> 01:32:58,600 Yeah, you could you go Gallop Pollard. 1803 01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,300 I'd rather be that make you a stronger way of playing Dallas 1804 01:33:02,300 --> 01:33:08,300 to get gassy their ATP. So ATP 29.8 Prescott thirty 1805 01:33:08,300 --> 01:33:11,900 seven point one Gallop, 49.3 50.1. 1806 01:33:11,900 --> 01:33:15,800 So these guys are these guys are going at like the 45 turn. 1807 01:33:16,900 --> 01:33:19,200 So here's another thing with Zeke and I, you know, I you 1808 01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:21,800 know, I hate that I'm doing now but my math is wrong on that. 1809 01:33:22,200 --> 01:33:24,200 But like, from an ATP perspective, this thing's going 1810 01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:30,300 to run past this week, right? So yeah, if Pollard Doesn't 1811 01:33:30,300 --> 01:33:34,300 really play this week. You know, and it's like where he 1812 01:33:34,300 --> 01:33:35,600 plays. It doesn't look the same because 1813 01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:39,600 it's torn plantar fasciitis. I mean zx80 piece going to rise, 1814 01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:42,400 so yeah, but do you want to play Zeke? 1815 01:33:42,400 --> 01:33:45,900 I mean, I think, I don't want I think that the better way to 1816 01:33:45,900 --> 01:33:49,300 play dialysis through Pollard. Kosta just because like, we 1817 01:33:49,300 --> 01:33:51,800 could get DAC even here. And then we have Mahomes and 1818 01:33:51,800 --> 01:33:55,900 Dak, you know, and I did you think I'll up and parlor because 1819 01:33:55,900 --> 01:33:59,600 if because we're getting a wild-card quarterback, I do 1820 01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,500 think the dominant strategy is only one quarterback because 1821 01:34:02,500 --> 01:34:06,400 we're playing, this is Chief Super Bowl weight that you sir, 1822 01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:10,100 they're going to be wild card. Yeah, there's only one team of 1823 01:34:10,100 --> 01:34:12,300 the buyer, right. There's only one time. 1824 01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,400 They're tied right now with New England. 1825 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,900 Tennessee, with the best record. Yeah, I mean we could definitely 1826 01:34:17,900 --> 01:34:20,200 get boned. I just feel like the way we 1827 01:34:20,200 --> 01:34:24,500 played this the optimal like first place Equity move is to 1828 01:34:24,500 --> 01:34:31,100 just let my home's ride. Okay, do you want it? 1829 01:34:31,100 --> 01:34:34,500 I think, just based on ATP here, we can visit. 1830 01:34:34,500 --> 01:34:37,700 If you guys want to, I just, I feel like you can get a stronger 1831 01:34:37,700 --> 01:34:40,900 build of Dallas upside without playing just somebody like, so, 1832 01:34:41,100 --> 01:34:45,100 pure all who sure all pick here. It would be an NFC skill 1833 01:34:45,100 --> 01:34:49,700 position player. I don't really have a good one. 1834 01:34:50,200 --> 01:34:51,500 Alright, I'm just gonna put Zeke in. 1835 01:34:53,700 --> 01:34:55,900 I mean, you know, I hate this pic but I just feel like it's 1836 01:34:55,900 --> 01:35:01,500 kind of the yeah it fits. What we need. yeah, I think we 1837 01:35:01,500 --> 01:35:05,600 can take the risk out of fourteen percent here because I 1838 01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:12,200 think yeah, you can get CDs. I mean, he can he can score. 1839 01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,300 It's not. All right, we're back on the 1840 01:35:15,308 --> 01:35:16,900 clock. I do think we're kind of set up 1841 01:35:16,900 --> 01:35:25,300 here for a 4-3-3 construction. I think we can pick. 1842 01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,700 I think we can play this from either conference. 1843 01:35:27,700 --> 01:35:31,200 Do you guys just see a player up here that you particularly like 1844 01:35:33,300 --> 01:35:36,200 Dylan. About. 1845 01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:40,600 Yeah you want to take Dylan will just go. 1846 01:35:40,600 --> 01:35:42,600 We'll go heavy. Now, we'll go. 1847 01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:47,100 Packers Cowboys Chiefs. Yeah. 1848 01:35:49,900 --> 01:35:52,700 Because Packers have something like mvs type, you know, dark 1849 01:35:52,700 --> 01:35:55,600 throw stuff at you, but you are the Packers going to get the 1850 01:35:55,608 --> 01:35:59,400 bye. Does it matter. 1851 01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:03,800 If, as long as we get our Chiefs in the Wild Card round, we're 1852 01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,600 happy with this construction. Oh, the cheese in the wild-card 1853 01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:10,800 is what we're playing, got it. Yeah, we're playing Cowboys, 1854 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:13,800 forget four games, got it. And cowboys won't have a by. 1855 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:19,300 So will we can sit on Dylan? I do love Dylan for playoff 1856 01:36:19,300 --> 01:36:22,400 contest, like, I think he could just explode. 1857 01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:27,000 Yeah. And you could be rolling into 1858 01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,900 the Super Bowl. It's pretty easy to see yourself 1859 01:36:28,900 --> 01:36:32,500 rolling to the Super Bowl and you're like scrolling through 1860 01:36:32,500 --> 01:36:37,400 like which ones have Dylan, you know, well and the thesis with 1861 01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,600 Dylan, you know, it's the same as all the premiums, your are be 1862 01:36:40,600 --> 01:36:44,300 candidates where there's multiple paths to where it's 1863 01:36:44,300 --> 01:36:47,500 like he just outplays him or it's game plan specific. 1864 01:36:47,500 --> 01:36:51,400 We've seen them want to use him in the cold months, you know, in 1865 01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:54,800 those big games or Aaron Jones gets hurt, there's like lots of 1866 01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:56,800 outs for Him. Yeah. 1867 01:36:58,000 --> 01:37:00,800 Nobody's driving C eh huh. Where did he go? 1868 01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,600 Not that you'd literally ch1 the podcast they're round. 1869 01:37:06,700 --> 01:37:10,400 I think in rabaa. Dre is like the AFC version of 1870 01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,400 AJ Dylan. I can't believe Doc is still 1871 01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:15,400 here. Yeah, what do you think about 1872 01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:17,300 that at this point? How many rounds are there? 1873 01:37:17,700 --> 01:37:19,500 This seems like, maybe we take deck. 1874 01:37:20,200 --> 01:37:22,900 Yeah, so, I mean, just listening to hurt Sig. 1875 01:37:22,900 --> 01:37:25,700 Talk about it. He doesn't think it's optimal to 1876 01:37:25,700 --> 01:37:27,800 take two quarterbacks but I don't know. 1877 01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:29,400 You just take one. We don't have draft. 1878 01:37:30,100 --> 01:37:33,800 If, if you have a wild-card quarterback, you're playing that 1879 01:37:33,800 --> 01:37:35,200 side. Heavy got it. 1880 01:37:35,300 --> 01:37:37,100 So, who do you guys think here though? 1881 01:37:38,100 --> 01:37:42,200 I mean, maybe mvs, maybe Pollard power to be pretty interesting. 1882 01:37:42,200 --> 01:37:45,800 Take, take both speaking part. Yeah, we could go Zeke and 1883 01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:53,000 Pollard and then Gallop grab. Let's see here, go up, went 1884 01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:57,100 could always get Schultz, I think envious is interesting and 1885 01:37:57,100 --> 01:38:00,200 we can get Lazard to at some point for, for Green Bay. 1886 01:38:01,200 --> 01:38:03,100 Yeah. And we can get what Derek 1887 01:38:03,100 --> 01:38:05,100 Darrell Williams, but I don't know if we want to go with 1888 01:38:05,100 --> 01:38:08,000 fucking for running back. I think we're good with these. 1889 01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:10,500 Are the back. All right, she want to take MPS 1890 01:38:10,500 --> 01:38:12,100 here. Yes, that's a good one. 1891 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,800 So we have it's so hard to pass to hack at that point. 1892 01:38:16,100 --> 01:38:19,900 I know. But when you have Cooper here 1893 01:38:19,900 --> 01:38:23,500 Zeke and Paul, Oh Lord. Where's the CD lamb team? 1894 01:38:25,600 --> 01:38:28,400 The Gallup team already has Stafford and Brady. 1895 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,600 He's gonna go. So where's the lamp team where 1896 01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:36,300 the lamp team has Kyler? So like they might they might 1897 01:38:36,300 --> 01:38:39,300 just give him my take them, they'll take him, they'll 1898 01:38:39,300 --> 01:38:40,400 probably take them on the come back. 1899 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:43,100 Right? If he's available to us in the 1900 01:38:43,100 --> 01:38:45,500 second to last round. I think we I mean we have to go 1901 01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:51,800 We got to get what we need. Now Pete. 1902 01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:56,300 Another receiver. Yeah, I think we want to add 1903 01:38:58,200 --> 01:39:01,900 Pringle or Hardman or Demarcus Robinson, Pipe. 1904 01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:11,400 What about Schultz's either? A Schultz is there. 1905 01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,500 I would say Schultz. One of the ancillary those are 1906 01:39:14,500 --> 01:39:18,100 last two picks Lazard is, I mean, and Lazard. 1907 01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:24,700 And just go 13 and all receivers. 1908 01:39:25,900 --> 01:39:29,100 Yeah, you could also. I mean, yeah, it's tiny and 1909 01:39:29,100 --> 01:39:31,800 doing anything these days Victoria's a CEO. 1910 01:39:31,900 --> 01:39:34,800 He's not like our house better and I are like how does he have 1911 01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:38,600 an ADP? I don't know towards ACL weeks 1912 01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:40,000 ago. Jesus. 1913 01:39:40,200 --> 01:39:42,200 I know if he's coming back with that ATP. 1914 01:39:43,500 --> 01:39:47,000 I guess he doesn't have one. Just got a projection for some 1915 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:53,700 reason. All right, so that makes it 1916 01:39:53,708 --> 01:39:54,900 here. You are not taking him. 1917 01:39:56,000 --> 01:39:57,800 I'm okay. Like I can theoretically 1918 01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:00,500 understand why that might be the case, but at the same time it 1919 01:40:00,500 --> 01:40:05,500 seems hard to reconcile. I mean we definitely boost our 1920 01:40:05,900 --> 01:40:07,800 the suit activity of getting out. 1921 01:40:10,100 --> 01:40:12,300 I'm out of completely kind taking him here. 1922 01:40:12,600 --> 01:40:15,500 This this pics going to this is that it's got to be, he just 1923 01:40:15,500 --> 01:40:19,300 took, he's got CD. he's not really correlating that much 1924 01:40:19,300 --> 01:40:23,700 either, so, like, Will he take stack them or taking? 1925 01:40:25,100 --> 01:40:28,700 Schultz, Schultz, Schultz and then like probably Pringle on 1926 01:40:28,700 --> 01:40:31,500 the bring back. So he takes my took mix, okay? 1927 01:40:31,700 --> 01:40:33,300 This guy can't take a quarterback. 1928 01:40:33,300 --> 01:40:35,500 I Feit he could. I feel like we have to take to 1929 01:40:35,500 --> 01:40:39,200 have the cotton webbing please do I think we go. 1930 01:40:39,700 --> 01:40:43,300 I think we go Dax Schultz now. Yes, if we take Derek I think 1931 01:40:43,300 --> 01:40:45,100 you have to take Schultz I think we act. 1932 01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:48,100 When we have five cowboys, we're in a really nice. 1933 01:40:48,100 --> 01:40:50,600 I mean we have the Casey stack on the other side, but we're 1934 01:40:50,600 --> 01:40:53,900 like a capitalistic deck, man. I mean, what the hell? 1935 01:40:54,400 --> 01:40:57,000 What We're playing the Cowboys to play four games now. 1936 01:40:57,400 --> 01:41:00,300 I mean, this is great. I kind of actually like how this 1937 01:41:00,300 --> 01:41:04,500 shook out, it's pretty great. We only have four Green Bay. 1938 01:41:04,500 --> 01:41:07,300 We only have Dylan, an mvs, it's just a straight, Cowboys Chief 1939 01:41:07,300 --> 01:41:11,000 Super Bowl. And it's the it's the Chiefs 1940 01:41:11,000 --> 01:41:14,100 upside, right? Like, the Chiefs ancillary 1941 01:41:14,100 --> 01:41:15,800 players. It's such a concentrated team. 1942 01:41:15,800 --> 01:41:21,200 It's hard to. It's hard to really like any of 1943 01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:23,000 those bets, right? Pringle or Miko? 1944 01:41:23,000 --> 01:41:24,600 Exactly. Yeah, you'd rather take an 1945 01:41:24,600 --> 01:41:27,100 ancillary piece on Dallas. It's so much more spread out. 1946 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:29,700 He could turn around and flip this. 1947 01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,600 All right, that's a great Point, dude. 1948 01:41:34,700 --> 01:41:36,800 I like this deal a lot so I like it. 1949 01:41:38,500 --> 01:41:41,400 It's exactly how I think, like, just the general kind of 1950 01:41:41,407 --> 01:41:44,100 structural approach with these plan of Casey. 1951 01:41:44,100 --> 01:41:48,700 Dallas Super Bowl, Green Bay, couple dab, a little mixing and 1952 01:41:48,700 --> 01:41:50,700 I love that. We have both seeking Pollard. 1953 01:41:50,700 --> 01:41:54,600 Like, you have, I feel like sort of locked in upside, there in 1954 01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,500 our scenario where Dallas is basically playing for games, but 1955 01:41:57,500 --> 01:42:00,600 also like they can both produce in any given game, you know. 1956 01:42:00,700 --> 01:42:02,200 Right. Yeah. 1957 01:42:02,300 --> 01:42:05,300 If Dallas has some, some Big passing wins. 1958 01:42:05,300 --> 01:42:07,600 We can have the DAC games and then we can have the Mahomes 1959 01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:10,900 games where, you know, if both the running back score, TD than 1960 01:42:11,100 --> 01:42:14,600 than were in good shape on that side of how they can play. 1961 01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:19,500 Let's see here, Willis, where did my team go? 1962 01:42:21,500 --> 01:42:23,800 That's such a fun team. They don't usually work group on 1963 01:42:23,800 --> 01:42:27,800 team. Yeah, Willis God went digs. 1964 01:42:27,800 --> 01:42:33,100 So he has the digs Alan Beasley Beasley that latest nice. 1965 01:42:35,300 --> 01:42:39,500 Has it Godwin, Antonio Brown. Also, Darrell Henderson Odell 1966 01:42:39,500 --> 01:42:43,100 Beckham Willis buying the dip on some of these injured guys here. 1967 01:42:44,700 --> 01:42:49,000 Let's see anyone else. Mitchell will sky like I think 1968 01:42:49,000 --> 01:42:50,700 well, it's done really well. The one thing I would say is 1969 01:42:50,700 --> 01:42:54,300 those one offs at the end or just tough with with yeah Jolin 1970 01:42:54,900 --> 01:42:58,500 and Chase because you're like I mean based on what we saw last 1971 01:42:58,500 --> 01:43:02,400 year you kind of have to be in on certain teams and just take 1972 01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:05,500 shit like fournette didn't feel like a good pick last year but 1973 01:43:05,500 --> 01:43:07,800 he ended up being you know, the best pick in the last round, 1974 01:43:07,800 --> 01:43:09,400 right. You just keep picking guys 1975 01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,800 because lat at this time last year wrong Jones was their guy 1976 01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:14,400 for that was just a backup. You know. 1977 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:20,400 Yeah yeah, yeah Sam you wonder like there are you know because 1978 01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,300 we've only had this the one year and they are years from doing 1979 01:43:23,300 --> 01:43:25,700 the playoff challenge. We're like I'm already Cooper 1980 01:43:25,700 --> 01:43:29,100 went off in the first round so I do wonder if this year. 1981 01:43:29,100 --> 01:43:34,200 Maybe there's a you know it's like you need to go team Stax. 1982 01:43:34,700 --> 01:43:37,700 Like imagine if there was just like like a team that want it, I 1983 01:43:37,708 --> 01:43:40,400 think could have just as easily. Maybe had you know, things play 1984 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,100 out differently, could have had like very correlated team with 1985 01:43:43,100 --> 01:43:44,800 like one piece who just went. Hammond. 1986 01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:46,100 The first two rounds of got eliminated. 1987 01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:50,000 That could have been the for net, so I don't mind taking a 1988 01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:52,500 stab like that. Sure, if your last round pick, 1989 01:43:53,300 --> 01:43:55,200 but like, it could have been pretty could have been 1990 01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:58,800 Singletary who didn't go and been apart of the bills thing. 1991 01:43:58,800 --> 01:44:01,000 It could have been wrong Jones and you're playing for not to 1992 01:44:01,000 --> 01:44:02,300 get hurt in these next few weeks. 1993 01:44:02,300 --> 01:44:04,500 And then jump because you already have couple of bucks. 1994 01:44:04,900 --> 01:44:07,300 Like I think it was the point for Frozen hex over Mitchell. 1995 01:44:07,300 --> 01:44:10,500 Probably in this format. Yeah I was kind of more 1996 01:44:10,500 --> 01:44:14,300 defending the chase pick. Yeah Chase pick is hard to pass 1997 01:44:14,300 --> 01:44:15,800 up. Off that point, right? 1998 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,300 Yeah, but I agree with you. I would rather take it like a 1999 01:44:18,300 --> 01:44:20,900 total dork throat. Stabbed on a on a correlated 2000 01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:26,000 guy, over Eli. Yeah, II kind of I know Sam said 2001 01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:28,800 he didn't like his draft here out of the one hole, but I kind 2002 01:44:28,800 --> 01:44:31,400 of like it that Adams Aaron Jones. 2003 01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:33,800 He was trying to set up the Green Bay stack but then he kind 2004 01:44:33,800 --> 01:44:37,800 of pivoted and got the Eckler Mike Williams, but then he he 2005 01:44:37,808 --> 01:44:40,400 scooped up all the Tennessee value late, and like their 2006 01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:43,600 playoff odds are great and you get Derrick, Henry, Tannehill, 2007 01:44:43,600 --> 01:44:46,500 and AJ Brown and then he also kind of got Garoppolo. 2008 01:44:46,500 --> 01:44:49,900 Yeah, wow. So it's a little bit more spread 2009 01:44:49,900 --> 01:44:54,800 but this construction is concentrated on That's right. 2010 01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:58,300 Like mmmm if those offenses, stay really concentrated and go 2011 01:44:58,300 --> 01:45:00,500 far like that, that team could be successful. 2012 01:45:00,500 --> 01:45:05,500 I mean, it's SF Tennessee, Super Bowl where, you know, Green Bay 2013 01:45:05,500 --> 01:45:07,800 and the Chargers also do good things that could be, all right? 2014 01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:10,800 Yeah, yeah. It's only four teams total right 2015 01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,500 that he that he has exposed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2016 01:45:13,500 --> 01:45:14,700 Yeah. I don't think you want to be 2017 01:45:14,700 --> 01:45:17,200 more than four teams. This sort of like my little 2018 01:45:17,200 --> 01:45:18,400 beast. What about hard and fast that 2019 01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:19,600 make sense. Yeah, yeah. 2020 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,300 And I kind of like that. Just, I mean we've seen the 2021 01:45:23,300 --> 01:45:27,600 chief Us when the Chiefs are at their best, they are just hyper 2022 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:30,000 concentrated through. Yeah, I'll see you in hell 2023 01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,200 anyway. So I don't mind that bet and 2024 01:45:32,200 --> 01:45:33,400 that's why I was thinking through it. 2025 01:45:33,400 --> 01:45:36,600 Like, the we've started talking for the for the listeners. 2026 01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:39,200 We've already started chatting about the FPC, playoff contest a 2027 01:45:39,208 --> 01:45:41,100 little bit. And so my mind starting to go 2028 01:45:41,100 --> 01:45:43,900 there and obviously we can have a full week of content on that, 2029 01:45:43,900 --> 01:45:49,100 but just like thinking through those playoff bets, it does 2030 01:45:49,100 --> 01:45:53,200 become important about how the team actually wins games. 2031 01:45:53,800 --> 01:45:57,900 And so like I do like betting on Kelsey a lot because if the 2032 01:45:57,900 --> 01:46:01,800 Chiefs win the Chiefs, make the Super Bowl, Kelsey was good, 2033 01:46:02,100 --> 01:46:03,000 right? There's like what? 2034 01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:05,100 What scenarios work, the Chiefs make the Super Bowl. 2035 01:46:05,100 --> 01:46:06,600 Was Kelsey not good in the playoffs? 2036 01:46:06,700 --> 01:46:10,100 Yeah, there's none. How the hell did Moms come back? 2037 01:46:10,300 --> 01:46:13,400 Like that. We got killed Kelsey Mahomes and 2038 01:46:13,400 --> 01:46:15,900 then got a lot of Dallas Firepower. 2039 01:46:15,900 --> 01:46:18,200 I mean, we got a Mari. It's not like we were just 2040 01:46:18,200 --> 01:46:21,300 punting on Dallas. We got Zeke, Pollard, Amari 2041 01:46:21,300 --> 01:46:23,600 Schultz, DAC, like that's a really good. 2042 01:46:23,700 --> 01:46:26,400 Dallas lineup and what their pass? 2043 01:46:26,400 --> 01:46:29,000 Rushing everything they could. They could make some noise. 2044 01:46:29,000 --> 01:46:30,800 I mean, this might be there. Yeah, saying that my league I 2045 01:46:30,808 --> 01:46:33,100 think. Yeah I would say I think I threw 2046 01:46:33,100 --> 01:46:35,600 a note to you guys in our little chat this week when I watching 2047 01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:37,600 their game against Washington is just like man. 2048 01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:40,800 They're past their D line is fucking good. 2049 01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:46,200 Yeah, it is really good. Um, all right guys, gonna shut 2050 01:46:46,200 --> 01:46:49,200 this down for tonight. We appreciate you guys hanging 2051 01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:50,800 out. Good luck. 2052 01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:55,800 As you start the first week of your Our playoff contest here in 2053 01:46:55,800 --> 01:47:00,100 week 15, it's going to be a wild one as far as the covid news. 2054 01:47:00,100 --> 01:47:04,000 I think not all the shoes have dropped their so stay Nimble. 2055 01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:09,000 Hopefully, you have loaded your bench up with contingency plays 2056 01:47:09,000 --> 01:47:13,600 Gretch. Anything else on your radar, No, 2057 01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:16,400 I'm so I'm saying this path. I'm already thinking about the 2058 01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:20,400 play of contest so much. I'm so excited and we've 2059 01:47:20,400 --> 01:47:24,700 mentioned this a few times, but we're legit going to plan five 2060 01:47:24,700 --> 01:47:28,100 days of best ball content between week, 18. 2061 01:47:28,200 --> 01:47:31,700 And the Wild Card round playoff Concepts content, not best book 2062 01:47:31,700 --> 01:47:33,800 on te. Sorry yes I made it's 2063 01:47:33,800 --> 01:47:37,000 essentially best ball. But yes, playoff content is 2064 01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:40,300 going to be firing here on chip. JC will get that schedule out 2065 01:47:40,300 --> 01:47:42,800 once we solidify that Pat. Anything else going on in your 2066 01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:46,800 World. Well just before we jumped on 2067 01:47:46,800 --> 01:47:50,600 the show here, I was re-watching the Kenny G documentary. 2068 01:47:51,500 --> 01:47:54,300 You gotta check it out. It's so good dude. 2069 01:47:54,300 --> 01:47:58,200 Pat, I watched it, I watched it, I meant to I meant to message 2070 01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:00,900 you about it and I did really appreciate the the 2071 01:48:00,900 --> 01:48:04,200 recommendation for the listeners. 2072 01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:07,300 The bag story is we were having a random conversation and that 2073 01:48:07,300 --> 01:48:10,000 just pivoted to like a football conversation. 2074 01:48:10,000 --> 01:48:11,600 Just what? Like a couple days ago a week 2075 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:15,500 ago, you're like If you guys see the get is you fucking better. 2076 01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:19,800 I thought that was like the and then you teach for non sequitur. 2077 01:48:19,800 --> 01:48:23,200 Was because I didn't know if that was enough, I think you 2078 01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:25,800 asked if what pizza was a non sequitur because he made a joke 2079 01:48:25,900 --> 01:48:28,500 and I was like I think I did a non sequitur buddy recommend the 2080 01:48:28,500 --> 01:48:30,900 Kenny G deck when you're talking about oh no I made it. 2081 01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:38,800 Thanks. But I wanted to talk to you 2082 01:48:38,800 --> 01:48:41,800 about the Kenny G doc because it was awesome. 2083 01:48:42,600 --> 01:48:45,600 It's So does really well done? Well, we'll be back here next 2084 01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,100 week and everyone, listen, watch the Kenny G Dock, and then we'll 2085 01:48:48,100 --> 01:48:49,500 have Kenny G thought. Yeah, it's crazy. 2086 01:48:49,700 --> 01:48:51,500 I have homework now for next week. 2087 01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:55,500 It's like whatever is in your head like, when you first if 2088 01:48:55,500 --> 01:48:58,300 someone says the name, Kenny G, like, whatever emotions are 2089 01:48:58,300 --> 01:49:02,100 things, you feel? That is exactly what's described 2090 01:49:02,100 --> 01:49:05,600 in the documentary, it just describes those feelings. 2091 01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,400 In flesh, has them all out and you're like, yes, yes. 2092 01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:11,300 Oh wow, yes, yes. But there's so many things you 2093 01:49:11,308 --> 01:49:14,000 don't know about Kenny G, the person like, Kenny G's Holt like 2094 01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:17,200 career like how his music has expanded around the world in 2095 01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:19,800 some very interesting ways. Yeah, it's incredible. 2096 01:49:19,800 --> 01:49:22,000 It's an incredible documentary. Yes. 2097 01:49:22,300 --> 01:49:25,100 I have thoughts out at well, then maybe we'll chop it up next 2098 01:49:25,100 --> 01:49:27,600 week when scratch watches it. All right guys. 2099 01:49:27,700 --> 01:49:30,000 Appreciate you. Subscribe to the channel, will 2100 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,900 be back next Wednesday. Good luck. 2101 01:49:32,000 --> 01:49:32,500 And we did