All right, final regular season ship cast of 2023.
We might have some stuff cooked up here for the playoffs.
More on that later, But tonight we're rolling up our seas for
the El Nino Bowl. It's finally here.
New York Jets versus Cleveland Browns.
Ron Stewart, our friend and long-suffering Jets fan is going
to swing by in the second quarter to fire off some hot
takes. We of course got our pick'em
sweats tonight and Steph Miller will swing by in the third
quarter to talk about all of our final ice stakes sweats here in
the championship week. Good luck to everyone.
Let's fire this up. Pat Fryer Helmos.
This is why This is why I'm hot. Anita Handjob.
Fix your sight. Jamar Alpha play Chase are.
You you can't. Handle the heat.
It looks like we're finally at this point.
You're right. All right.
Good evening. Good evening, Pat Karain, Ben
Gretch. I'm Pete Oversat, and apparently
I need to go to Amazon Prime to be able to watch this game.
I always forget. Let's start.
Remember we got the the Browns in all whites, white helmets.
I kind of like what they're doing here.
Yeah. Oh, that is cool.
There's our boy drone Ford. Yeah, nice little 6 yard gain on
this first carry. Oh, they're only marking it for
five. Come.
On let me. Put it by a yard there.
Let. Me pull this up here so people
can see what we are are sweating tonight.
We got our core entry here. I was hoping we would get a
little closing vine value on the Nijoku stuff with Amari out, but
that number didn't budget. It stayed at 5 1/2 receptions.
We got the higher there. We got Trevor Simeon higher than
32 pass attempts and Jerome Ford higher than 46 1/2 rushing
yards. Are you guys surprised the
Nijoku line didn't move? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was already pretty high but but still surprised.
I think you theorized beat that it might close at six.
I thought that was a good call. Yeah.
I thought six would be the number.
Yes. Elijah Moore with a big catch
there but gets it overturned on or or called back on offensive
pass interference. Little push off.
He wasn't even in the in the player pool when we were
looking, right? Who's that?
Elijah Moore, I didn't see him in there.
I was looking for him. I think I thought I saw him in
at one point, but yeah, they were coming in and out the come
on. Yeah.
So then Amari out and then yeah, I was kind of glad we dodged the
bullet because I was eyeing the the Tillman lowers.
But I would not have felt good about that with with Amari out.
Who's scones buzzing there? It's.
Not me, man. Is it mine?
I don't. Have any friends?
Maybe I I did just have AC buzz in my ear.
That's funny 'cause my my mic's on the table, but I have my
headphones in so I didn't even hear it.
But you're getting the vibration.
I got two texts just now. I don't get a ton, so hopefully
I don't get too many more during the show.
There's no joke, Pete. I'm I don't I?
Don't have any friends? Wow.
Guess we should have gone yards. Oh man.
Wow. Wow.
I I always laugh when you get a lot of comments or people like
you know, taking hires in a game projected with X total and it's
like guys you know that these lines are heavily influenced by
what the game was. If there was a. 60 point total
these numbers would be double like it's a.
Market there's there's a market based game and one of the big
things with overs and unders and like, you know, kind of trying
to think through how like when we're doing 3 hires, we're
expecting there to be a little more volume in this game when
everything's down because it's a low total game.
There's more room to miss up, right.
There's more room for like, oh hey, the play volume's
surprising than to just be like, Oh yeah, both teams are going to
run 50 plays and it's going to be a terrible game.
Like yeah, that's what's most likely to happen in this game.
But not so far. I mean the the Browns came out
to play, this is pretty sweet, but there's more room to like
have a rising tide that lifts everyone over these lower
numbers. So I think it's kind of, it's
kind of nice. We're looking good here.
We got Jerome Ford already has like the rushing yard we were
like let's play it as the Browns move the ball.
Jets are a massive run funnel but they're but the Browns
basically have an effective offense and the The Jets have to
pass a bunch. Yeah.
And that's looking great. It'll be fat if if, like, the
Browns really handle The Jets here.
I'll be really curious to see how much those guys move in
playoff basketball this week. Obviously other games will
impact that market too, but I mean, you guys have been pushing
it over on leg up how undervalued the Browns are as a
target and the public might finally come on board if they do
this in prime time here. Yeah, I don't.
I mean, do do people just hate Joe Flacco?
I mean, I think that's part of it, right?
It's not hate. I just don't think they buy it
right. They're just like, I just got a
hot streak. It's just a gimmick.
But he's so good for skill position players.
I mean, it was something that I was talking about in stealing
signals. As soon as he took over, you're
going to get pass attempts, right?
He doesn't take sax, He gets the ball out.
Oh, Joku Ballin. Gets the ball.
Out throws a bunch is, you know he's not going to ever rush and
he's not going to take sacks. So every we talk about this with
fields in the offseason, that really high percentage of his
drop backs that don't turn into pass attempts.
Flacco's the opposite player. Almost all of his drop backs
turn into pass attempts and it's great.
And a lot of them are short pass attempts.
So you get, you know, nickel and dime you up the field.
You wind up with 40 attempts. I remember the first week he was
starting in San Jose. I was talking about how the
whole scale of pass attempt shifts up to where like 40 is
like the weekly kind of floor and like 60s in.
If you go look at his game lock, he has games, throws, 5560 pass
attempts and Pat, you mentioned it when we were breaking down
this game, he's gone over 40 and all four of his starts.
Like I didn't. I hadn't looked at that, but.
Tons of pass. That's receiving forward's in.
He wrote Forward Receiving TD. Wow.
Well, yeah, Because. We wanted to play this through
the Browns lead, the Browns rush.
And you know, we were thinking that was like, if anything, you
know, the Brown's probably going to be juiced in the passing game
given the game they just had. But I was looking at towards the
end of, as we were discussing like Joe Flacco, his number on
underdog was like 36 1/2 I think for his attempts and he's had
like well over 40 in his three starts.
So I was like I actually think I think all that that kind of that
angle that we wanted. I was starting to get worried
that it was essentially underdogs angle as well and that
we were kind of like just going to be taking hires on stuff that
they had already accounted for like with Jerome Ford's attempts
which is what we were originally looking at.
So we went yards as part of that thinking of like well let's at
least benefit from them being effective because the game
script looks to already be sort of a run heavy one here for
based on the hiring of that. You had some great notes on Ford
and on The Jets, being a team that's had like a ton of rush
volume and and production against, right?
Yes, and just to be clear, when you say I have great notes, I I
grabbed great notes from Lord Reeb's worksheet.
Yeah, that he said he had one in there.
The Jets are facing 25.6 rushing attempts per game, which is 30th
in the league there. And then, you know, Ford had 15
last week. And I just like the game script
we were playing. And if they had success that,
you know, Ford could easily get to kind of his upper threshold.
I think the, the fairpoint of, you know, maybe being concerned
is like, hey Kareem, Hunt's going to be involved.
Pierre Strong's going to be involved.
But it does seem like on that drive.
I mean, wasn't Jerome Ford the only running back to get a touch
for them there? Yeah, he was out there the whole
drive. That was a great first drive.
We get the two in Joku catches and 14.
Jerome drove Ford rushing yards. Plus we get the script we're
looking for. I mean this core entry, I don't
know if you could have a first drive go better than that.
That just was. I mean that.
Was pretty sick. I can flash here the we did do a
five leg version has the core of course.
And then we kind of correlated the Trevor Simeon pass attempts
with Breece Hall higher receiving yards 29 1/2 and then
Garrett Wilson higher 49 1/2 just being like hey, they're
chucking it down the entire game.
This this offense is built out of two players and their names
are Breece Hall and Garrett Wilson.
Pete, I'm, I'm, I we only made a comment in our chat earlier and
was like it's going to be hard to not check out these BBM final
teams that didn't make it like how they how they would have
done in the final. The teams that didn't advance,
you and I had a team that did. We end up finishing .14 points
short, Is that right? Of our pod.
Yeah. No, we ended up finishing a
little bit further out than that that that screenshot I sent you
was earlier in the evening. Yeah, but it.
We didn't get ahead of the other CMC team so we were blocked, but
I didn't know if that meant we finished second but.
Yeah, there was the Iuke stuff like, Oh no, do you know what
happened? There was, there was a Zay
Flowers team, I think in our pod that had really started to come
on. Yeah, I can.
I can try to find these. But yeah, I think we ended up
finishing like six or seven points out.
But yeah, it was. Do you know if we had, if we had
Jerome Ford? I know I had a couple that were
in that had four. So my point was Leoni made that
comment and I was like, I probably won't do that.
And then Ford scores the first touchdown of BBM Finals week.
And I'm like, God, I had two teams that were in the semis
that had Jerome Ford. I I got.
Jerome Ford through in in the Bulldog too, which is only eight
people, so that's that's a pretty nice little touchdown.
Did we have him? There you go Gretch.
So we finished 144.86 in 3rd in this strem team who now I just
this is the guy that posted in the discord.
Ben I think got it Or maybe this was another guy.
Whatever, we had Najoku on the. Oh, and here strong.
So that that 13.4 points or this was for last week's scoring, but
Najoku's well on his way to doing that again today.
Yeah. Get a little breeze early.
Yeah, that was that was brutal. You and I both had another sweat
that we were both rooting for CMC late on late in that game.
If he scores that touchdown late, you and I both punch a
ticket in two separate drafts. We had this Co managed one that
got very close, then then later had this one also.
So if this one was .14 behind that CMC chick team and we had
to to leapfrog them with Devonta Smith because they had us
blocked with CMC as that that CMC chick's name indicates,
that's that's good branding on the name.
And so we didn't get there in the Eagles game and then three
hours later we're doing a sweat for our own personal teams.
That was a a correlated sweat. We both wanted CMC late and we
didn't get there then either. It was a brutal, it was a brutal
person. I had a auke team, I had two IU
teams. I had one and a 555 that needed
like a really big IU game. Plus Purdy would have helped a
lot too. And then I had a ABBM team that
actually scored more points than the BBM team that I advanced
that had IUK. And so I was, you know, I was
kind of going in rooting for a big IU game.
But then you guys are Pete's. Like I can't have any more IU
got to have Kittle or CMC. And I was like this.
The 555 was like completely dead.
And the BBM team was mostly dead.
Oh, here's Breece. Come on, Breece.
Big run, big run.
So I was like, all right, this team like now I'm, I'm anti
sweating like 20 points from CMC or something.
It's the fourth quarter. It's like, you know, halfway
through the fourth quarter. So I'm not worried about the BBM
team that advanced. It was pretty locked in.
So we're like, all right, Brittany, so you know how I said
we're rooting for IUK, we're switching all of that.
We're not rooting for IUK. We're rooting.
For DMP and Debo, remember Debo, the terrifying player I was
telling you to root against completely.
We he's cool now. We like him.
He's cool. No IUK and so, so then at the
end, IUK goes nuts, which was terrible for Pete, but it got me
within a touchdown of advancing that other team.
So I was like, all right, here's the thing, Brett, We actually
can deal with an IU touchdown button.
We're all so happy with the CMC touchdown.
We just want a touchdown. And then they then they didn't
do it. Oh man, they didn't do anything.
I'm very glad that Lauren was was in bed.
By the time I was agonizing with that, all I had was just like
typing with Gretch and you guys in our group chat.
I was messaging you guys. It's it's it's three hours
earlier here. So my kids and wife were all
awake, and I'm just pacing. And they're like, they could
just pick up on my nervous energy.
Like it was like quiet. I kind of felt bad.
It was like quiet in our in our living room.
And I was kind of like explaining to my wife what was
going on. My kids are just, like, playing
on their like, iPads, like, not asking questions, really.
Like, But afterward, my youngest, like, she could tell
that I wasn't really pleased and so she, like wanted to play.
I sent you guys a video. She I got her.
She's a little bit more of a tomboy.
I got her one of those nerf like basketball hoops for Christmas
and she like got all jazz and wanted to play with dad and
like, totally lifted my spirits. Kids are the best man.
She was just like, like wanted to bring me some joy and was
like playing. And she just like throwing down
dunks on this Nerf basketball hoop.
I got some videos. It was pretty fun.
Breathe, baby. Is that breathe.
Come on. There you go.
That's repeat begins beautiful. That's huge for Sean and I as
well. We're starting.
Awesome. Steph did a recap and and Steph
will come on in the third quarter.
But she posted. You know our five Horsemen team
with Hassan and Blair, Breece Hall, Buckeye Boomers, Breece
Hall, Waver chasing Breece Hall. And then we have a brown stuff
with a shark jumping. But the brace hall stuff is off
to a great. Huge receiving drive as well.
Our five leg brace is already over, I believe.
Or he might be 1/2 yard shy. Oh sorry, that's his rushing.
He's not. He's not over.
His rushing's at 32 already. His receiving's at 21.
He already has 53 yards and ATD. Fuck yeah, baby.
Let's go. This this is off to a great,
great start. Yes, because Garrett Wilson also
had a 22 yard catch. Trevor Sibian's too efficient.
That's my only That's our. Issue 2 for two for 43 in the
TD. Gretch, I was just like thinking
through like, you know, the the, the, the nightcap to that week,
you know, 16 Monday Night Football Sweat was so
disastrous. I'm sitting here looking at our
lineup and thinking back to how long ago Thursday felt with
Cooter Doodle and you and me fist pumping this Rashid Shahid
touchdown. It's like from the 2nd we got
that touchdown to sweating the CMC stuff at the end, It's like,
God, what a journey that week was that.
Was a long. They scheduled that in a way
that, I mean, it was fun, but it was also just like with with the
holidays and stuff. Like it was kind of a kind of in
that view to like anyone who has families and anything and is and
is a degenerate. Like, that was a long, stressful
weekend. Honestly, I know.
Yeah. And it's like we got you know we
had three quarterbacks, right? And I mean I wasn't I didn't
love the match up for Jordan Love against Carolina there.
I thought they're going to run a ton and to get like the 24 point
game from him and have Romeo Dobbs crack our line up.
I'm like so many things are already going right for this
team to come that close. But I will say, Gretch I'm so
glad this Zay Flowers team came storming past us because losing
by .14 in this one in a CMC touchdown in the other.
I don't know if I. I thought that's what it was up
until now. So I'm I'm glad to hear this
too. I'm like, all right, whatever.
That's fine. I would have been tilting a lot
more, I think, man. The other one is still tilting
though. Oh, for sure.
I I got the other one that's you know within within two points
and just needed a little bit more CMC like 1 1/2 points more
CMC late and it didn't happen. Tyler says motherfucking shout
out to the brace haters, the doubters and the losers of which
they're a bitty. He's a gam with huge hams, hams,
Huge hams. Tyler was in the streets in the
summer battling with the brace haters.
I mean, he was alongside me as we as we fought the briefs war
this summer for sure. Oh, you can even go back through
some of our ship chasing draft streams if you want and look in
the comments. You guys take briefs on every
day. What are you doing?
Why are you taking briefs? You guys don't come back.
From this injury, like the comments were littered with that
stuff. For sure.
By the way Edwin Porce a bunch of the other Twitter doctors
like completely nailed it. They were.
I mean it was truly one of the craziest things where all of the
medical experts were like, yeah he should be good by like week
five, week 6. And it was all JK Dobbins fear
it was he's this year's JK Dobbins.
It was the next year thing. We.
Yeah. And I mean it's it's a great
example of like, yeah, I mean he could have struggled with health
all year. But it's a great example of
where we get into these narratives and then value gets
created and you have to keep your eye on, you know, upside
scenarios and those types of things.
And I mean it paid off. It's paying like how how sweet
what he did in week 16 and now he's at starting week 17.
Huge. Yeah, Week 16.
It's paying off, and the deck was stacked against him more
than it ever could have been. Like part of the brief's thesis
was Aaron Rodgers is gonna be the quarterback of this.
Obvious. Yeah.
I do think that there's one thing that's like sort of hard
to to get your head around in, in a way is like there's so much
safety and talent. You know, where, like, people
think they get their safety from projected touches, but there's
so much safety in talent. Like Reese Hall had, oh, Reese
Hall heads back. Wilson and Tim Boyle and
currently as Trevor Simeon as his quarterbacks this year
didn't have, you know, more than 1/4 of Aaron Rodgers or what
with how many snaps did he have with like three or something.
It was. It was crazy and still had the
season he's having. Like, could he have had a better
season? Like, yeah, like, almost
certainly he would have had a better season with Rogers.
But to do what he's doing, it's just it's just a thing that's
not available to so many players in the league.
It takes so much talent to do what he's doing.
Well, and it's it's a similar thing that's playing out with
Jamir Gibbs, right, where it's, oh, the committee.
David Montgomery's good and it's like, yeah, David Montgomery is
good, but guess what? Jamir Gibbs is like a top three
running back in the league. Let's.
Go 415 ports. Yeah, yes.
I love the way you guys put that.
I'm going to write up it, you know, a post mortem.
I always write one up at the end of the year, one of my key, like
I usually do like 3 to 5 like keys of the season.
I guess one of my keys for 2023 that that like I've taken from
it relates to this. I know last year I wrote the
piece that was like running back talent doesn't matter, but it's
the most important thing, 'cause like the market had caught up
and is caught up with. Running back opportunity, but
like when we actually can identify talented players.
You just said it so well, Pat and I hadn't thought about it
that way, but it's it's a safety in, it's in and of itself the
talent element, but it's something that the market
doesn't get right yet. Everybody wants to project
touches and they want to talk about that.
The one of the big takeaways for me in 2023, the thing I'm going
to write up is we've always thought about running back as
the opportunity position receiver as the skill position,
right Like it you, you draw volume, you earn targets.
All of that is baked in at this point that I think a lot of the
edge is, is actually in the inverse where on on the running
backside opportunity is so heavily baked into the market
that it's the efficiency that is the edge.
And on the on the receiver side, with the way that the defenses
have have really cracked down on a lot of offenses, the the
situation, what else does that mean?
Was so gross. The situation matters for a lot
of these receivers, like like Derrick Wilson's a great example
that he looks so, so good soon as he lost Aaron Rodgers.
Drake London's another great one.
Those guys, I'm confident those guys are good.
But there's some offenses that are just like not competent more
so than there were like in 2020 when you know we had offenses
through the roof. It felt like every offense could
be like a floor of competency. Since defenses have started the
cover to shell and all that stuff.
Some of these offenses like just can't even crack competent
passing. And so situation is I think
starting to matter a little bit more than the market is
realizing. I think for pass catchers
efficiency definitely for running backs that skill point
you just made, I think those are like key things with the way the
market plays it. They're not the most valuable
thing but it's how the how you find edges.
I think the running back skill is the most valuable thing
because when we're looking for upside outcomes, you know, like
I mean the whole my whole like legendary upside idea, right Of
like you're looking for the guys who break fantasy.
Like that's skill. Like you have to be super
fucking talented to do that. You know, Christian Mccaffrey's
not a situation based player, he's in an amazing situation,
but he's also generational running back.
So I actually think it's the most important thing and it's
not value. Decided.
Joko, what a beast. Holy.
Shit. Oh, dude.
He's he's holy, by the way. Sorry, guy.
I was just gonna say another thing about like talking about
running back talent and this dovetails one of the things that
has gotten so bastard sized with the Week 17 conversation and and
Dubner was talking to me about this last night too, is it's not
just correlation. Part of the week 17 stuff is the
player archetypes and the type of players you're targeting and
the talent in the rookies. We know we have actual data
where those guys see their roles grow as the season goes on.
Like that is part of like the week 17 is all that matters.
It's not just correlating the team, it's the player targets
that you're doing as part of who is going to peak at the end of
the season. There's reasons why Bruce Hall
and Gibbs are coming on very strong and why they had cheaper
prices at the beginning of the season because people weren't
viewing them through a week 15 through 17 lens.
They were viewing them through a 17 game median projection lens.
I completely agree. I actually think, and I I want
to do some more research on this to, you know, 'cause right now
it's just, it's just vibes. But I I think that we still
might be, like, dramatically under drafting rookies.
I talked about this on legendary sickos a few weeks ago, where,
like, I'm starting to feel like searching for those thinner
second year breakouts is actually maybe a a leak.
You know, like I took a lot of Alec Pierce, 'cause he was, you
know, correlated with Anthony Richardson, which I think makes
sense, but why not really press, press it down on on on Josh
Downs as opposed to chasing the second year?
Because it's like even if Josh Downs is equally good as Alec
Pierce, he's probably going to play more in Week 17 because
they want to see what they have, you know, or get or kind of get
fed more. You know, like is Jaden Reed
that good? I don't know.
But like, they're trying to figure that out.
You know, obviously he's dealing with angry stuff, but like
towards the end of the season that's when you get that the
team's actually trying to see what they have in these guys and
that's so valuable. It's the it's another part of
the Zero RB thing that I don't think it's discussed a lot.
Like we toss around the phrase like the chaos of the season,
but it's like that's a almost a feature, not a bug that these
guys, a lot of them aren't getting a lot of touches early
on. It's like the lead back has way
more opportunities to get hurt. You know, weeks one through 15
and then these backups pop up and it's like, oh, you just got
lucky. It's like, well, no, Like the
wear and tear of the NFL is a real thing.
And getting these guys with fresh legs at the end of the
season who are healthy, like that's also part of it.
Like all of these things go into the Week 17.
Doesn't matter, but people just want to latch on to one point,
which also is true in itself. But you.
Sort of just described anti fragility, where like the chaos
you're you're playing for the guys that thrive and get better
in the chaos, right? And the and the team to get
better in the chaos. But it's so important to have
the guys that are spiking in week 15 and 16, like, you know,
I got lucky to get eight teams through to the semis.
It was largely, you know, 'cause like I I had a ton of Laporta,
you know, who's who's got a ton of teams through.
He got so many teams through that he's chalk in the final,
even after dudding last week. Like that's how important.
So yeah, you have to get lucky. They have, you know, this rookie
tight end who you hammered. But like, that's those types of
hits are so much more valuable than boosting your advance rate.
Like to get eight teams through to the final, I would have had
to get like 128 teams through to the through the first round.
To have to have an expected eight teams through the final,
like 128, that's nuts. That's never going to happen.
So to get, it's like yes, yes. You can't just like say oh,
draft rookie tight ends and they'll spike in the week 15 and
that like most of the time that's not going to happen.
You have to get lucky to land on that type of stuff.
But some of these archetypes do give you a higher percentage
chance to hit on those types of weeks in week 1516 and 17.
And those types of spike weeks are so fucking valuable you
really do have to look for them, I think.
And I don't think it's a coincidence that so many other
people you see like Bime 4 has a team and Sanderson has a team
and Pat has a team and and Gretchen, I were very close to
getting teams like all of us who very much prioritize these
things of like, yeah, you're gonna have a lot of shitty teams
that bomb out, you know, as Josh says here, the anti fragility
also comes with low negative outcomes.
We got a Jet fumble there. That's my defense.
In my FFPC team, that's with Sean, we'll.
Take a quick Jerome Ford here and then get Trevor Simeon check
in. That's right, this is good for
Gamescript. I have my team with Silva is a
Breeze and Joku team. Breeze is the one that I
famously got an argument with with Silva about and forced him
to draft, and it's working out pretty good.
That's now in the top 20 as well.
Teams team that you guys, he had to call you the next day and
like makes Breece, Breece in the 4th, ETN in the 5th where that's
where it hit the fan. I was like, no, we're taking ETN
in the fifth round and those two guys have been huge.
But I mean, he has some. Good picks as well.
Silva probably didn't need to call you, as you mentioned, you
know, like it wasn't that serious.
But he actually owes you another call.
Now it's. Pretty great.
Who's that Tillman? Oh little.
Oh, what are we going to get? I think offensive interference
on Harrison Bryant there? Who?
Blocking up field. Who wants to be the first person
to be courageous enough to go on Twitter and say, are the Browns
better without Amari Cooper? I'm.
Not I'm not going to be that guy.
I I wanted to shout out Spike Week for this Tool Day.
Launch the tournament database where you can actually go and
check like the owner. It's like an ownership grid for
Best Ball Mania. It's very, very fun.
People were wondering, who else do you have going on your team
tonight other than Breezer? Is that your only player?
No, I'll pull up. I screenshotted it, threw it in
the leg up Discord, I'll grab it here.
Yeah, it's tonight. It's just Breece.
Tonight's just Breece. I do have thrown Ford in that
Bulldog team, but I'll. I'll pull up the the full team.
God can't find it. Kareem Hunt already has one
rushing TD and was back on the field there.
I saw that I'm like God. Giraffe just.
Running all for this team. Like no.
Gotta get Kareem Hunt his touches.
And for like, you know, for BBM, I'm sure some people have Hunt
through, just as a late round running back, two touchdown game
would be a pretty fortunate start to get to get two TDs from
Hunt. Oh yeah, man.
There it is. No.
Oh, we got stoned. He got swallowed up by Quinton
Williams. All right, Peter, I just threw
it in the the ship chasing chat let.
Me pull this up. Oh yeah, you have the, the,
Gino, double, the. Gino Double is the the key and
Warren, yeah. Is.
Keaton Allen going to be back? I haven't looked at.
I don't think so. It didn't practice today, so I
think I'm without him. Damn it.
They went for it on 4th, didn't get it.
Not good for our script, no. I can't wait to.
Push it to 9. Why wouldn't you just take it on
4th and four? I would just take the kick.
Pat, I hope you win with this lineup and then people try to
say that it didn't rely on any Week 17.
Correlation. That wouldn't be the first time
I'm just looking at this wide up, correlated to the gills the
dark fool stuff is that's a massive game stack.
Goth 3 receivers, 2 tight ends, and David Montgomery.
You almost want Montgomery to not.
And he's like leverage. On your own high own stack I
guess if you got Montgomery and then the Gino hit like that's
the if I Ferguson like pick pick what happens I'd be like give me
Monty. But you know, The funny thing is
Monty is really highly correlated to the other lion
stuff. Like he's part of these game
stacks I was looking at in the Spike week tool like who, who,
Monty's paired with and you're. Seeing a lot of I.
Mean, unsurprisingly, that he's he's paired with Goth and.
Stuff. So I guess it would be good but.
As soon as Monty hits and the golf stuff doesn't, I then like
need the the. You know, stuff.
Like, need need need that, yeah. Your your.
Running. Backs are in awesome shape both
for like Reese is already done and then the ownership.
I mean Kyra net 6.8% is nasty. That's nasty, yeah.
Yeah, or Ty Chandler, Jalen Warren are really nice, like 4-5
piece. I mean, Chandler's like, I don't
know, probably better than Montgomery projection lines this
week. I mean those are like, you have
some like you got a lot of depth there, yeah.
You're gonna be flexing. A running back if all goes
running there, yeah. Yeah.
Which means you could. I mean, if you get the Geno
Locket JSN double like you don't you only need one more receiver
like Laminaman Rock can bust and you can still win.
Yeah, in some ways you almost want, right?
If, if you knew again, if you're picking what can happen, the
path is they bust Gino and the double goes off.
Monty gets in the lineup. Maybe Ferguson gets Ferguson.
Monty Mini. Yep.
Yeah, that's what you need. Laporta's got a bust too.
Golf. All of it does.
Did Pittman practice? Is Pittman back at practice?
It's wild. He.
Shed your back jersey today, so he's a big piece for me too.
All your biggest correlation pieces failing in a correlated
way, right? That's also kind of nice as long
as you added another stack. That's what you want you.
Want you want the Ferguson David Montgomery Mini to hit?
Oh, go, Breece. Breece.
All right, Simeon. Time.
Hilarious thing about. Breece is he still doesn't look
all the way back to 100%, like he's gonna be so much better
after a whole offseason of like, being in real good shape next
year. He just gets.
Up to speed. So fast.
That's like his thing and he's always like, that was such a
good cut back. It wasn't even really a hole.
He like ran into his lineman but like like found the space.
Like he's all, he's got really good vision.
He's always finding open space and then you're just like, oh
hey, Breece is running. No one's near him again.
Like how is he always running with no one near him?
Throw it ever. Yeah, what was it?
What did did Kyron flop Week 15? Is that why he's so low?
I think part. Of it is that he just wasn't
drafted that much, Yeah. Yeah, just a sample size and he
didn't. Crush, you know, And then a lot
of teams like the. CD.
Oh no. What do you do?
Run it back. I need this TD.
Go go, go, go pitch it. Dude, he got it.
Nice. Grip.
Fuck yeah, that was huge and. That's great for the Yeah,
great, great we're we came in. Yeah, we.
Came in in 14th in the FFPC main, Sean.
I talked about it quite a bit on stealing bananas this morning.
I don't know if that's out yet, but definitely.
Need some of these. Differentiated pieces to hit.
I don't think anyone above us had Cleveland Browns D, so I was
low key like pretty stoked to see if the Browns D could do
something to traverse D in tonight.
First quarter pick six and the fumble on the kick return
already. They already have 10 points off
those two turnovers in the TD. Wow.
It's pretty, it's pretty sick. Good start and we.
Got Browns. D on our $2500 league with Oh
yeah, Hell. Yeah.
And we we we're in first. There, But We the Lead took a
big hit last week because the Purdy stuff kind of tanked.
Yeah, it took a big. Hit.
But I mean, we're just kind of right back here.
I mean, it's like, do you want to go to war with Brock Purdy,
CMC, Jamir Gibbs, Brandon IUK, Devante Smith, Sam Laporta and
Kenneth Walker this week? I do.
Yeah, I'm good with that. We're benching Ty Chandler.
Like, I mean we're I think we're probably do we want Wicks in
there or we might go to London isn't what.
I guess London would be the other option.
Yeah. It's a bummer.
Yeah. We we would turn into 4 running
back Bros if we could. Yeah, he was, Yeah.
The FFPC layout I honestly. Don't hate the spot for Drake
London. Like, I kind of like that game,
yeah. I'm good with it.
He's good. He's good.
I can't believe this. Start 'cause we have Brice and
the Browns D sorry to talk about this team so much, but we have
Brice and the Browns D and I was like, this is so negatively
correlated. Like there's no world in which
the Browns D does awesome and Brice also does awesome.
But then I was like, I mean, maybe it's possible that Brice
is just, you know, so good that he.
Has some big. Plays and the Browns D have some
plays. They both scored in the first
quarter. Like.
That's that's like the way it works.
That'll work. That'll that'll.
Do. All right, good field position
here. This game's about to go.
Over in the first quarter. What was the what are the over
under close at like 35? Yeah.
Isn't it low? All right, we need.
We need like. A.
We need like the Breeze Hall check down drive where Simeon
racks up like 6 or 7 attempts. That's the one I'm worried about
right now, The ESPN bet. Has it at 33.5 that it closed
at? There's been 27 points in the
first quarter? That's wild.
All right, here we go. Oh, all right.
Josh asking about NFC league format versus the FFPC with the
two flexes and the one flex. It's funny because I kind of
like the NF CS lack of that extra flex even though it can be
annoying where like you have an extra running back and you can't
play them, but like the. Field.
Seems to be just as running back heavy as FFPC and then they
can't play their guys in the Flex all year.
So I think it rewards the the way we build a little more.
Yeah, I think you're right. The next next point.
On game script set up in the real world for the pickups, I
think these pickups are in incredible shape.
Yeah, let's get what? Are these flags?
Offensive offsides. I love how after that Mahomes
play and everyone's like, that's never called.
They've called it like, they've called it like five to seven
times. Yeah, it's been such a big thing
since. Which all that does Oh my God,
it was Oh no, was that off? Was that off, Snides.
Oh, false stack. Every illegal formation.
Them calling it. That much since then, All it
does is emphasize that they were letting that shit slide before
'cause obviously a ton of players are doing it and now
they're like, we're going to call it every time you're
slightly over the line. But that was never called
before, which was the whole point of Mahomes And Reid's
whole point was like, usually you give us a warning where you
just let it slide like he's a half yard or a a, you know, a
very small amount beyond the line.
It's it's just kind of funny. Like, it didn't.
It certainly didn't help. It didn't help.
It was the Chiefs are making right.
Exactly. Everyone was like how chiefs
are. Babies.
And that was kind of like, I kind of got their point a little
bit where like they'd never call this and it seems like it does
happen and now they're calling it constantly and it's like, OK,
well. Geez, were kind of right.
All right, let's get some attempts.
Breeze, It's. Like breeze, it's like your only
good. Player maybe throw it at.
Well, I mean, Garrett's good too, but.
He just touched the ball the last place, so you just just.
Just alternate. There's two.
People and. You through to one that isn't
one of those two people. Don't do that again, just the
whole game. Let's.
Focus on the two guys. Who are good?
This is how a fantasy. Football Twitter could run.
A team, it would literally just only be, well, it just through
to somebody. Named Kenny.
Yaboa like, oh, I think I talked Pat Doherty into cutting him
like two years ago on his diary. Team.
That'd be really great if. You just slid into your
mentions, pissed off just remembering that I'm going to
text him. Sorry about your boa, dude.
Yeah. Sorry about your boy.
Your Boa. Sorry for telling you to cut
your boa. Aaron Rodgers on the.
Sideline pretending like he cares.
I know attempt. Recall Reese cut.
Back space. More space.
Just like little. Subtle.
Cut on two dudes to get like 7 more yards.
Hops right up. Love to see.
It. Keep the offense on the field.
Come on. What do we have?
All right. Breece is good.
Breece cleared 32. Breece already cleared.
I love that. Let's go.
Yeah. Simeon's at five in the first.
Quarter which is an an ideal pace but I think.
They should have kept the offense.
On the field there you're at, you're at the 50 yard line, down
13 on the road. Like, why?
What? What's the point of the punt?
I mean, just 'cause he's. Robert.
Salo. Our boy, Ron.
Stewart, who's coming on here in just a minute, is tweeting He
he's. Been wanting.
Solid fire. I'm interested for this take.
He's tweeting about it right now.
How much more competence once? We watch until people get fired.
In New York, he's. He wants them to clean.
House I'm excited to hear this jet fan pick.
I don't think you can clean house unless you also get rid of
Rogers cause so clearly he's a part.
Like why is Nathaniel Hackett there?
Like I I went back. I was.
I was watching in season Hard Knocks.
But Britt? Wasn't with me, and we were kind
of. Like watching it together.
So I couldn't watch the next episode, like 4 episodes.
Fine. And so then I was like, I'm in
the Hard Knocks like mood now. I never, I didn't really watch
the one this summer. I only watched a couple
episodes, so. I turned that.
On and there's an. Offensive meeting, where
Nathaniel Hackett is like making the quarterbacks sit through
clips out of context of The Naked Gun and like these old ass
Leslie Nielsen movies, which like, you know, I watched this
as a kid and stuff. They're fine, but like they're.
It's like corny ass. Jokes.
And he's like, got to be sitting there and like, have to force
laughter as your offensive coordinator.
So, like, this is real comedy? God.
You can't get. This guy out?
That's a real thing. Wait, is that with Sala or?
Hey, that's hacky. Yeah, that sounds.
Way more like hacky. Yeah dude, when you already.
Are a like a caricature of yourself after last year and you
know that you're being filmed for all this stuff, Like, can
you just not do? That like don't.
Make it hard on yourself, dude. Apparently he goes around.
He's obsessed with Austin Powers 3 Gold member.
And he's like he. Constantly is like quoting Gold
member and shit and like Rogers loves it 'cause he's cringey as
fuck. So they're just all like the two
of them and you're. Like this?
How could you have any? Respect.
For this guy Bronze here, I got Ron.
I I heard. I heard you guys talking through
Hard Knocks. I heard just like the entire
thing, like it's it's a joke. We are the laughing stock of the
league. We are playing the Cleveland
Browns, who have been that for as long as I can remember, and
they are killing us with the quarterback that we had for the
last two years. Like it.
It's genuinely like I I'm watching this game, See, I don't
even want them to win. I want them to lose in the most
hilarious fashion, so that Salah gets hilarious right now.
I want it all gone the. Hilarity.
We're looking. For Ron, I promise I'm.
Not. I'm not trying to do a bit
because I know you're a young guy and I also know The Jets
haven't been to the playoffs in a long time.
Have The Jets been to the playoffs in your lifetime?
They have. I come to you today as a bearded
man in my 20s, and I have not seen The Jets in the playoffs
since I was nine years old. Like I I.
We meant we went to back. To back AFC Championships and
I'm wearing my. Rivas.
Jersey, we're going to the bar. We're like, we're beating, you
know, New England, the 3rd place.
And I'm like, man, you're going to the bar at 9:00?
Years old my parents were. Cool, my parents were.
Cool. You would watch it and I would
be like, yes. Jets, we'd go crazy.
And I was like, I heard stories from everybody.
You know, it's like, you know, The Jets, we haven't been good
for a long time. Like, this is sick.
And I'm like, yeah, like, get used to it, fellas.
And now we're here and it's just like, it's awful, man.
And then I tell dude, everyone out there that's like an Eagles
fan. What, You guys lost three
straight. You guys, you guys are in the
playoffs. You're winning games.
You have a franchise quarterback who has his Achilles intact.
Enjoy it all. Like it.
None of it is promised, man. Do you remember?
The Butt Fumble. Well, I mean, like, what was it
like watching the Butt Fumble quarterback take you to.
I guess the Butt Fumble was probably after the AFC
Championships, right? Little bit later in Sanchez's
career, you were not. Sanchez is a very.
Weird like relationship with Jets fans because I I love him
now as you know he's he got us to the promised land like that.
That is my my crowded achievement.
It's AFC championship. Beating the Patriots like
however many times they did during that stretch.
But like then you see him like eating.
He was eating like a New York hot dog on the sideline one
time. If you guys remember that before
he. Like.
He was a meme at the time. A lot of us were like, man, we
wouldn't, in spite of this guy, screw this guy.
Like, I'll tell you, man, I think if we had a Flack over a
Matt Ryan on those teams with those defenses, I'm probably a
Super Bowl winning fan at this point.
But yeah, it's tough. It's a love hate because at the
time we kind of were like, man, like we if we just had a
quarterback, like we're winning a Super Bowl here.
But now it's like, I would. I long for the days that Mark
Sanchez is my quarterback. I long 2023 is the worst.
Version of that exact same thing.
Yeah, it is. It is.
The doomsday scenario. That exact thing.
This defense is awful. What?
Did you think they should have? Done When Rogers went down I
mean do you think they should have went after more QBs like
cycle through I mean were you a Zach Wilson fan What was your
your this is war of operations. Essentially I know the idea that
OK they were screwed like and I guess a Moneyball you know 1000
foot view throw the season away get a better draft pick
whatever. Sure.
But I from someone you know we haven't been to the playoffs in
12 years. We have this elite elite
especially out the gate right where we're like we're we beat
the Bills on prime time and like great defense everything.
I wanted them to do something right like and I was on board
with seeing how Zach Wilson did but the lack of getting a backup
plan was the issue for me where they come out.
Oh my goodness, where they come out and they just.
As the backup and they were like.
Yeah, Tim Boyle is the guy in case of Zach Wilson goes down
and to me that was the unserious part of the whole thing of not,
you know, calling a flash or trading for a Jamis or a
Brissette or an Andy. Don't they know anything about?
Fargo, I mean, he's just yeah, I don't know why.
They would have any. Scouting.
Or kind of anything on him, I don't believe.
People say, Oh well, Flacco wasn't gonna go back.
I don't know that I believe that man at that point in time in
like week two, if you told him, hey, this defense would ever
come in, I don't know, even if he didn't, whence Matt Ryan and
just try something. Just throw something at the
wall, even the like. I.
For a while there, like after the trade deadline, I had people
ask me, well what would you do? And I'm like, OK, well at this
point I think you could still come up with a plan.
I was looking to practice squads and like the Nathan work guy who
had the sick play in the preseason, go do something like
that. It's like Tim Boyle was a known
commodity, like that was not going to work.
And the only reason they were keeping him there, the only
reason was there in the 1st place is he's another Rogers
buddies. The only reason they were
keeping him there to back up Zach Wilson was they didn't want
to threaten the Zach Wilson plan.
And it's like you got to do something.
You got you have to give yourself some uncertainty, some
upside, grab somebody who hasn't played.
Look what Jake Browning wound up doing right.
Like the Josh Dobbs thing was the one.
I mean, Carson Wentz would, but he's better than Tim Boyle By a
lot. Like.
By country, mile. It's just awful dude.
Like. I just hate that they they they
sat on their hands for so long and to me it's just it's unfair
to that entire defense like sauce and all those guys that
they want to win so badly, man, like they're they're all like,
oh, Garrett. No, that's a.
Catch. That's.
A catch? No way.
That's where he's all the way flipped.
Over. That's you got to throw a.
Challenge flag. They got to challenge that.
That was so sick. Look at the sky for this.
They should have named him Sky. Wilson look at him sky up he
didn't won against. Clemson in the the championship
game that was just like that. Oh, I think that goes.
Loose right when he lands now, is that what it is?
Oh, yeah. Oh.
He thought he had. It until they were.
There, thought he. Had until they rolled over.
Damn. He got up for that.
Landed on his head. That's my.
Experience as a Jets. Fan, by the way.
Oh, that was a sick catch by Garrett Wilson.
Like, can that one please count? And then it's just alright back
to. Dude, how good?
Is he going to be? Man, you watch a lot of The
Jets, Like I think if Rodger stays healthy, he's like a top
five receiver right now. I think what people don't
understand. Is the after the catch stuff man
like he's I think Harmons actually said like this exact
quote that he's cadarius Tony if he could run routes like after
the catch he's genuinely freaky in terms of what he can do and
juking people out. So you almost get that added
layer of kind of upside of the efficiency after the catch point
and that's what I think so exciting if he could just get
anybody that could give him some efficiency before the check the
catch point we're we're cooking and he's an elite route runner
like. He's yeah he's been crushing in
a In ASPN's Open score all year like he's.
I mean I'm gonna have so fucking watch Garrett Wilson next year.
Oh my God. Oh yeah.
Why does this team keep? Punting from the 50 yard line
down 13. Like what do we That's why I
want Salah God. Salah's the worst he he's one of
these alpha dog guys and he's doesn't have the balls to go for
it ever. And I know you guys are saying
like he came in with Rogers and that is definitely the tricky
part. But I I think at the same time
he has to go. I I I have to almost think that
like I know I'm a sucker for the Rogers coming on McAfee.
Like as a Jets fan you kind of it's kind of scheduled
programming you have to watch it to be a Jets fan.
That's all I have to look forward to at this point and I
have to like he was kind of he was jabbing at him for like the
dying, the beard stuff. I almost kind of think Rodgers
sees through the tough guy bullshit.
That's solid. Like, I almost wonder if in the
back of his head, he's kind of thinking to himself like, you
know, like is is Saul ever gonna actually, like, win?
So, like, is he ever actually gonna be the coach to do
something? Like, I don't know if he if he
didn't really like Mike McCarthy that much.
I I think Saul kind of is in a similar camp, a football guy
that's like, I don't know, kind of has his head up his own ass
in kind of time. Is it the thing?
With Rogers, though, is he? Just kind of says screw you to
the coach and I'm just gonna do whatever the hell I want.
I'm gonna call my own players, call my own audibles.
Like I don't really care who the coach is.
Yeah, Rogers has a little. Bit of like he's like a little
bit of like a 19 year old, like, whatever, man.
Yeah, 100. Percent, that is.
That's true. I I wonder, I wonder how much
like he talks with the owner, like with Woody Johnson and how
much he has like a hand in like any of this stuff in terms of
like like if he sat him down was like hey, like do we like what
we got going here. So I do think it would make some
sense. I don't think The Jets are a
spot where like a Ben Johnson or anybody would come.
But if there was a play caller, maybe not Joe Brady, but
something, you know, a young play caller maybe he liked could
bring on have be the guy. I don't know.
This is just fan fiction for me. That would be my hope.
Bring on a young play caller
that could kind of mesh with Rogers.
I I think it is fair to say maybe the egos wouldn't work out
there, but to me that's like the only hope this team has but you.
Like. There's no chance like you.
You know, they're going to keep Hackett for Rogers.
Yeah, like I'm praying. Like this is, this is what I'm
hoping for. Like I I I want to see like the
most. I I want to see 45 to 7 here
tonight and just like get the like.
I just want him to lose so badly that it's like there's pressure
for Woody Johnson. Do something.
I would love to see him. I know he came out and was like
this is what we're doing next year.
I'm hoping for like the Mark Davis like you know just like
quietly like low key by himself you know and he's just like,
Nah, we're we're we're firing everybody we're moving on but
well, how much do you think? Sala.
Like, how much credit do you give him for this defense 'cause
that is his expertise and the defense is awesome.
I I give him a. Good chunk.
But I I I had a Twitter rant like last night where the thing
for me is yes you can credit the Sala with this good defense, but
to me he falls under the same thing with Todd Bowles.
And sure Todd Bowles is finding success with Baker this year but
the same thing of like he can make an elite defense.
But I don't think that's enough to really do much in the NFL at
this point and I don't know we've now the issue I have with
Sala is he's not really over outperforming the defense.
You know what I mean? Like we've spent so many
resources and Sauce and Quinn and Williams and this year
instead of taking a offensive lineman or a wide receiver, we
take 24 year old Will McDonald the 4th out of Iowa State who
hasn't really played at all this year.
So when you devote all these resources it's tough to now like
double count it. If that makes sense.
Like, I I think we could hire somebody.
I was, I mean I was having some more fan fiction of I would love
Jim Leonard, old safety for The Jets.
Come on in VRDC. He's getting at worst 85% of
this output with these guys on this roster, with a guy like Jim
Leonard. So that's my biggest issue.
If Rex Ryan wants to come out of retirement, like, what's up?
But you know what I'm saying? Like, I, I, I don't know that
Zala, like, I think the defense would be about 85 percent, 90%
without him. And on top of that, I think the
DC Ulbricht doesn't get enough credit.
I think that he actually has his hand in the scheme and the
defense more so than solid. I I do think that there's enough
guys like Sauce Quinn and like there's multiple all pros bring
somebody else. I mean, it's talent.
It's. Super talented defense?
Exactly. It's tough, not.
It it'd be a it'd be a massive issue if this defense was
underperforming, but your bigger point.
Is you would prefer the head coach to be an offensive minded
head coach? Because yeah, and that has been,
I mean pretty clearly the the the path that went, Kyle Shaney
and Mike McDaniel, Sean McVeigh, all these young dudes that have
taken over these teams. If you have a defensive minded
head coach and a really good OC, he just gets hired away.
Like we're going to get that. It's not really a defensive
minded head coach with Dan Campbell, but we're going to get
that with the the Lions. Ben Johnson's going to get hired
away like you. You have that issue as soon as
you have a good offense. I mean, unless you can win with
Aaron Rodgers in the thing of Hackett, who's not getting hired
away, like, I mean that's like, I mean, that is the beauty of
Hackett is that he will be there for as long as you need.
He's got a lifetime contract. You're like will.
You leave, please, like he's that.
He's that. Brother-in-law.
That you're like, man, why is he still in our basement?
He's so bad, man. That's the thing got.
ADC in Like like Jim Schwartz has done such a great job with
his Browns defense and like, he's not really a hot head
coaching name, right? Like, I would say Ben Johnson's
the guy, the guy with the Eagles, Brian Johnson or
whatever was for a little bit. Wow.
And Flacco's balling out. That that's the issue with this
game is it feels like I'm looking in the mirror like this
is the Browns a cursed franchise like The Jets.
And instead of sitting on their hands when their quarterback
goes down, they get Flacco, their offensive you know, Coach
Stefanski schemes around what they have.
It just sucks, man. It all sucks.
It is interesting though, that I mean.
The Browns offense look pretty terrible with Deshaun Watson
this year, yeah. It's.
Like they? Haven't been able to lean into
the passing game until they got Joe Flacco, and then they're
like, all right, he unlocks everything OK.
There's Stefanski offense, though.
Like it's all run base play action.
Yeah, it's like a really nice fit for one flat.
It is a nice fit. Yeah.
Watson, I think, is actually just kind of a terrible fit for
what they're doing. I don't know why.
They thought he'd be. Oh, weird.
I'm I'm sitting here mad that Jerome Ford's not getting these
carries. That was pure strong point over
right. We're already over, aren't we?
Yeah, he He's over I. Did get rugged.
I thought Aikens was David Njoku, but it was not.
He's. Njoku's are yet 5 for 128.
Wow. Yeah, just.
Insane. So we have.
One more Njoku catch and then it's just the simian attempts.
We need a lot of those, a lot of attempts.
But we're gonna get Ron. Does your boy Trevor Simeon get
25 more pass attempts tonight? I saw I.
Saw the slip and I I was going to comment.
I was like, what are we doing taking all these hires on my
jets, man, I. Would.
I would love. I would love for the hires.
To hit Dude Simeon's on bench, watch any game he's playing is
really my biggest That's the concern, yeah.
Yeah. I mean, there's no Wilson.
I couldn't even tell you who would be the back.
Brett Rippon. Rippon.
They got ripping. Up.
They're not benching him tonight.
Hate this team, man. Guy hates this team.
That's awesome. Like.
Jesus Christ, I knew that they were talking with.
Brett Rippon But yeah, he's dressing, huh?
Yeah, he's their guy. He's he's their next go to guy.
I mean of everyone that you finally bring in it's just a bit
right. The guy who signed them a
practice squad is another failed like Brett Rippen has played and
failed like leading into uncertainty.
Yeah, like try somebody else, right?
Like anybody. Jake Browning.
Thing. I love when we were talking
about this early in the year and everyone was saying, well, not
everyone can be Josh Dobbs, you know?
And it's like, OK, but there are guys that do surprise and then
the Jake Browning one is the one that I like.
So wanted to point to and have point to a little bit of
stealing signals where it's like this.
I didn't even think Jake Browning would be good.
I'm a UW truther. But like he's been confident
like you can run for a year though.
Yeah, he. Was.
In the first round. Buzz like after.
The sophomore year, I remember I might have been like the Herbert
class where he was like, you know, fringe first round type of
talk and then a little bit of a, you know, a little bit of a fall
off there. But you're not.
As good, yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, he was really
good that sophomore. We went to the College Football
Playoff like 40 plus. Passing touchdowns, like there's
things you can point out with Browning.
For sure, but I mean not. Brett Rippen Yeah, No, no or.
Or Boyle. You can go back with Boyle, back
to what, like Yukon he has. He has like 5 touchdowns, 11
picks or whatever those stats were going around.
Ron, do you have any? Any sweats this weekend?
I got. A couple.
Dude, I'm convinced that I just suck at best ball.
Like, I just decided. I just decided like, it's all
over. Like I'm sitting here.
I'm sitting, dude. Like, no one, no one gives.
Like no one cares about my eliminated best ball mania team.
But I'm going to read it out here.
We do. We do the.
Three of us Ratchet I just spent. 20 minutes looking at our
eliminated one. OK, so it's literally all this.
Episode Is this one fell short? But I swear to God, like I swear
to God, Quran would be sweating if this team was alive right
now. I had Lamar and Jordan Love, and
then I had Saquan, ETN, Rashad, White, Devin, A Chain, Chuba
Hubbard, Ty Chandler. Not a single dead player so far.
Well, that's great. Cut McLaren Pickens.
Quentin Johnston obj. Jayden Reid Rashid Shahid.
You had me at Quinton. Johnston Oh, oh, you.
Know I had so many. I have a graveyard full of
Quinton Johnston. And then the tight ends.
Were David and Joku? Sam Laporta and Tyler Conklin.
So this team? Wow.
Lots of. Kills a lot.
Came up like 10 points. Short No one was really dead on
the team. Sick.
To my stomach. Yeah, you probably feel great
watching. Joku go yeah.
I'm. I'm loving.
This. How?
How close were? You to advancing that one, it
was like maybe 10 points. It wasn't super, super close,
but yeah, it just sucks. Yeah.
That's pretty, but I got some like.
I got some like high stakes redraft, but those are like sort
of tougher to to gas up or whatever.
I'm like I'm in the mix in the silver bullet.
I think it's like I was looking bad after week 15 or whatever.
It was like 50th among like 60 teams and now we've steamed up
to like 30th. One of we had like a top five
score last week and then I have two in the online championship
one that's like top 100 that's kind of doing kind of doing some
work. I think it's got Cleveland
Browns defense. So that's what we're looking at
here. Manage stuff.
You know, when I got waivers and
I can kind of outsmart the boomers.
It's nice dude. But God damn it, bro.
Like, I like Max BBM. It's like, yeah, like, I don't
know, dude. I I'm still waiting for a week
17 sweat. And the crazy part is I'm still
waiting for week 17 sweat. And I was just like fucking
around doing some MLB drafts and I got one to the finals in MLB
and it like, didn't really do much.
But, like, I I couldn't. I legit could name you maybe
three Yankees players and that's all I got.
Dude, it's time to pivot. To MLB Best Ball Thought Leader.
I mean, it's basically the badge froze.
And I mean, who else is even trying to corner that market?
Oh yeah, real one. Real.
Ones know that I'm a I'm a thought leader in every sport.
I'm very versatile. I'll.
Just.
Nick, make sure to cut. The back your thoughts you'll.
You're not a leader. I might suck at best.
Ball right, too. I'm a thought leader at every
sport, Yeah. I'm.
I'm a I'm. A Jack of all trades, man.
It's over. I I'm.
Horrible at best. Ball but but also, but also a
thought leader in every. Sport.
I just checked. Out the the silver bolt you are.
You're up to 20th, but A1 peat overset is an 18th. 2 spots 100.
Wow, that's interesting jockeying position.
Maybe you should hang it up. Ron Yeah, I've already decided.
I've decided I'm just going to be.
APE teacher and just. I've already sort of fantasized.
About being APE teacher. Like, I'll just come around like
every summer and then I'll just say, all right, that's it, Ron.
Ron Stewart, YouTube You have a basketball master class, right?
499 dollars, 4 to $99. You have to get in the discord
and then you have to you have to DM my associates 1st and then
you get to me and then I have the the exclusive to the
exclusive discord. I call my paid group my circle
of winners. That's where we get the tips.
Yeah, that's where you get the good.
Stuff. All all of my guys in that group
are all having sweats right now. But I'm.
I'm more of the teacher than I am anything else.
Yeah, can I can I just. Clarify that you is the appeal
of being APE teacher, that you can still draft in the summer
but then you go teach gym and don't have to sweat these teams.
Well, here's this is what it. Is this is what I can just I can
just run away from all my problems and just say hey, they
all, they all they all worked out.
I'll just come. I'm like the ground talk, man.
Every summer I'll come out and I'll be like, hey guys, let's
see you draft and then I'll vanish and then I will be a PE
teacher. I'll be probably a youth
football coach a lot. Of thought.
I've been visiting like Eastbound and down the Kenny
Powers. It's like a sex strip.
He's really into best ball while still just being like the
world's shittiest Yeah Dude festival.
Just run some laps. I got, I got the perfect start.
Go run some laps guys. He's like rapping on his phone.
People don't know this, but I'm. Actually the the Rockaway
Denville youth basketball coach of the youth basketball team
that won the Rockaway Denville championship.
So just something on my resume. Nice.
No, I coached my little. Brother's 8th grade basketball
team. During COVID, it was the best.
And they won the championship. They did.
Oh my God, it's like. Some ball of shit if you ask me.
Simeon the the. Past attempts.
Are not going great. He's.
Going to get I. I was staring at the sack number
'cause it was at 3 1/2 and I'm like, he's going to take some
sacks, but four is a lot. But now I'm like, well, maybe I
should have. At least we got one.
In there, No more Dalvin Cook. That's AWI guess.
Those are the small winnings. Wins we have here.
Like, Alan Lazar was inactive tonight.
Dude, like, he sucks and they're paying him so much money.
They're paying him so much money to do nothing, man.
How do you feel about Randall Cobb?
Dude like. Oh my God.
At least it's an attempt. Dude, just.
Stared down. That screen pass for, I swear, 6
seconds waiting for the defender to be like, OK, this is what I'm
going to do. Are you good?
You good? All right, here we go.
Now is Simeon. I mean, you got to give him
credit right? Because in between playing
Edmerton Tully on Game of Thrones he he was able to become
AI Wish. I got that reference.
But I respect it. Look at the.
Producer Nick's Nick's advice for Ron about the teaching
things. Looking up man.
You also get winter break to black You could be.
That's true. You can come back later in the.
Mix I'll drop my You know my 101.
Here's how to ship the Gauntlet. Come to my exclusive group chat.
We all win there, and then I'll vanish and.
I'll come back on this. I might What are we?
Doing guys, you're down 20 and it's two yards for a first down.
Is that Rob Sala? Offense, man.
Just like, it's just, that's just the Rob Sala experience.
Like this is what he believes in.
Dude. He couldn't even kick the field
goal to like almost screw it up last week the right way.
Like he called the timeout with like 12 seconds left.
Instead of like, you know, taking it down to like 4,
kicking the field goal or whatever, called it like 12
seconds. There's like all of this like
discombobulation, but you know what he will do?
He will do a fake punt when you don't need to.
He did that. I can't remember who he did.
That against, I was really hoping.
For a fake there, right on him, he's.
He loves a good. Fake punt.
I'm happy Flacco's fired up. Good man.
I'm disgusted. I can't believe you do this
every week. Do you watch every, every second
of every Jets game? I do until they're out.
Of contention. Like now they just kind of pass
me by on Red Zone and I just kind of.
Wait, I've never seen the. Jets on red zone, but that's
what it that's what that's. The beauty of it, well, when you
see them, that's because they fucked up like in crazy fashion.
It's like, oh, pick six, Trevor Simeon.
And it's like, all right, that was a good one.
But I watched, dude, all the early ones.
I, I, I, I lived and died with them.
The Eagles game was sick and then ever since then it's
sucked. I saw them no show in Vegas on
the prime time game. What?
What was your what was your feeling like watching the Aaron
Rodgers stuff? Because then like they win that
game, you see how good like the other elements of the team are.
What? What were you like Week 1?
I was. Down Horrendous.
After the Monday night like dude I I'm a Jets and everyone's at
like people would ask like I have people on my show.
Be like Ron like you're a Jets family.
You got Aaron Rodgers. Like what's our expectations
like? I remember Liam Murphy who's
like like what are we thinking like playoff Super Bowl What do
you think I'm like, dude, Aaron Rodgers is my.
Quarterback. Like, that's all I care about.
Like, we just have a guy, like the best quarterback I've ever
seen play football in my jersey is Chad Pennington, dude.
Like Chad Pennington was the best, the best of the best that
I have ever seen. Don The Jets uniforms and maybe
Brett Farve. For like a.
Seven game stretch, you said. Was.
But I think that's still true because you haven't really seen
Aaron. No, I mean, it's.
Insane. It's insane.
Like. And I was just like, I was just
happy. I was just happy to go into like
a fourth quarter situation where it's like, OK, we have a guy
that can just like get us down the field and like, be a good
quarterback, like what we need here.
And then we never even got to see it.
You know he comes out with the flag and you know me and my
buddies are juiced and whatever. He goes down And you guys
remember like, I'm, I'm on Twitter.
I like because I got all my Jets buddies from my hometown.
Like these guys are like sickos, like these guys.
Like when you picture like Jets, like scumbags, like a tailgate.
Like these are my boys. We're all hanging out down here
watching this game and like I I don't have the heart to tell
them because I'm seeing I'm seeing the video where it like,
illegit pops like we're we're in the first quarter and they're
like, Oh no. He just tweaked his angle.
He'd be back. I'm like.
Like. I don't know if I really want to
give you guys like, I'm just like, all right.
Yeah, yeah, we're hoping for this.
And my boys like Zach Wilson's got this like Zach Wilson's the
guy. I'm like, all right.
We'll just we'll just. Like we're just going through
all. Of the, you know the.
The seven. Stages of grief, oh man.
It all sucks, man. I love that you got the.
Bills Mafia and the what was it? The Jets scumbags, was that?
Yeah, The Jets scumbags like. Dude, Like, when we're talking
like Jets scumbags that'll like a Week 7 meaningless game.
Like, get into like a drunken fight with like, an opposing fan
and the nosebleeds and like, that's your boy, old October.
Game like, yeah. That those are the jet scumbags
that are just like they've been tailgating since like 9:00 AM,
just like guzzling beers and shit.
Like it's just like it's it's a whole thing, man.
Do Jets fans? Do these Jeff, what did you call
them? Goons.
Scumbags. Do they do they have an
inferiority complex with the Bills fans?
Cause the Bills get all the shine right for the crazy
tailgates? Well, Giants fans.
Is there an? I feel like there's.
I mean, the Giants are kind of the team, you know?
Yeah, it's not really. An inferiority thing, like
they're they're just bad people is kind of what it comes down
to. Like, they're just like it.
It's it's kind of just like, I understand like the bills.
Like The thing is the bills try to make a show of it.
And they at least have like a culture where, you know, you
have the guy, like making pizza in his little like, office thing
and it's like you pull up to a jet steel game and it's like,
it's just a bunch of like degenerates, like in lawn chairs
from like 9:00 AM in a parking lot until kickoff.
And they're just like no. It's just kind of real.
There is. No.
Pageantry. There is no shine to any of it.
And they know what they're signing up for.
They know that they are signing up for an excruciating 60 minute
football game. Just heartbreak.
So they're they're mad because of that.
So it's just like it's awful, man.
Like no one's even happy. At the tailgate, it's just like
maybe Week 1. Maybe week one, right?
Like before, before the Rogers game, I wasn't there, but I
imagined like the vibes were high From that point on.
The vibe is always high. Week 1.
And that's the thing with these scumbags.
They think like The Jets. They're like I I consider myself
a realist as a Jets fan, but a lot of these guys are like this
Jets year. This year we got Aaron Rodgers,
we got the defense. We got solid again, the boys
ready. And it's just like, I mean we've
we've seen we've seen this before man.
This is the. Movie Major League where they're
like doing the the montage and they're showing all the guys and
like the groundskeepers and they're like this is their year,
this is their year and then they suck and then it's like mid
season and showing all the same people and they're like these
guys fucking suck. Yeah, that's essentially what
it. Becomes like I I, I have been in
the state. I honestly, I haven't gone to a
game in some time. Like I I know Cooter Doodle was
on here last week and she like goes to the game and stuff.
But MetLife is a shit hole. I'm just going to be honest with
everybody. It's it's awful.
It's the worst. I've been there awful.
MetLife. Is awful.
Yeah. Went there with Davis.
That was for the. The Laird.
The Laird game? Oh yeah.
It's it's not all if it's like your first time going, but it's
like it's just like we have two owners and we can't find a way
to get like a like, you know the Vikings have like the
state-of-the-art Dome. Like if it was like the New
Orleans, like Mercedes Dome or whatever or whatever they have,
like I'd be like, yeah, sick, sign me up.
But it's freezing cold and everyone here are assholes like
it's from New York. You have to.
Take a train to Secaucus and then another train.
You have to change trains. It's fucking New York's team and
to get there you have to change trains.
There's a backs up their line to get out of the stadium after the
game is like 1,000,000 miles. Long.
Just to get back on this train, it's it's insane.
Oh my. God, that's.
Actually, one of the few Jets I love.
I love Jermaine Johnson. All right.
Real draft. Real.
Draft nerds know that he was like hired to be a top ten guy
and The Jets were gonna take him with their like, sauce pick or
something and they just took him like 26 or whatever.
And Pat? You said that was.
Actually, the reason you moved to San Diego, right?
Yeah, for the. Chargers and.
Then. Found out once I got here.
Did you show up? You're like.
I lived down the. Road from Qualcomm Where is
everybody? I was just.
Dripping in in Chargers gear. And yeah, they're they're not
here anymore guys. Yeah, that's the awful part of.
About MetLife is it's tough to get to from Jersey too.
Like you can take a, you can take the train in but like the
train is like backed up and you also have to take a transfer And
then like the the car ride in is like from most people in Jersey.
It's like, you know, like 40-50 minutes and then more traffic on
the way back if New York was going to get.
One of the teams, they were going to put one of the two
teams, the Giants or The Jets, in the the the.
City of New York, somewhere. Which would it be, Ron?
Which? Which I would hope it's the
Giants. We're the we're the fucking.
Scumbags. We No.
That's where we are, man. Like I say it, I say it when I
go to I love the Devils to death.
The New Jersey Devils, we like. I I ride with the Devils so hard
because they are a Jersey team. Like as a guy from Jersey,
there's so few like the Nets were here and then they were
like, Nah, screw you guys going to Brooklyn.
Like, very rarely do they stay here.
But I even say to myself, like the the place that they play
this, the Prudential Center in Newark, it's a shit hole it's in
like Newark is like maybe the scum of the entire country of
United States. Ron, I went.
I went to a net Celtics game at the Prudential Center, probably
like, I don't know, it was like 2009.
Two thousand Man, I I kid you not, Ron.
They had a wedding. Expo going on on the third floor
during the game, like we're walking to our seat.
I was like, what is going on? There were vendors out, cake
vendors, all this. I'm, I kid you not.
I was like, what is going on? Yeah, Prudential.
Is an all in one establishment there where they got, they got
the hockey games, they got the basketball games, they got like
a Mercedes. Now the spot you're talking
about is like now like a Mercedes, like exclusive like
VIP section is kind of like that top section of of Prudential.
But yeah, it's they they it's actually insane the amount of
turnover they have there because they have the Seton Hall
basketball team, so they like have an ice rink and that they
also kind of like switch up like every night or whatever.
But yeah. Ron we've we've been doing this
for 15 weeks. You're one of the absolute best
guests we've had. We brought on a a Jets fan in
week 17 in one of the most depressing seasons in any for
any team that I can ever remember.
And you're not just body bagging The Jets, the entire greater New
York City area. Yeah.
Like. New Jersey like it.
It's just it just comes with the territory.
The Devils are supposed to be amazing.
Like if you guys know anything about hockey.
Like the Devils have like legit like one of the the best, like
young cores out there and they have just like completely
underperformed this year. Like they're like a 500 team.
They lose in hilarious fashion. Also like, if you guys know
Frank the Tank, like the big, a big fat guy in New York that
like loves the Mets and stuff. Like he right.
He's at every game. Yeah, he's at every game.
He's like screaming and spitting into his phone afterwards, like
I'll never have anything. It's just like it's just the
experience of sort of what we've.
Done here, that's. That's what it is.
It's awful, but mathematically. It has that.
The beauty of it is though that mathematically it has to happen.
Like math, like the The Jets will make a rod before I die is
kind of what it has to what has to end up happening here.
Be careful, I've. Seen them make the.
AFC Championship mathematically. It has to happen mathematically,
dude. We.
Need dude. I Namath might have to die.
I hate to even go. Why?
He made a. Deal with the look they say they
made. He made a deal with the devil or
whatever he's got. His jersey right behind his head
and he's like this guy has. To he might have to go.
Dude, like, I I don't know. Ron.
Are any of your your boys like guys that have ever burned a
Jet's jersey out of anger, dude? Like, definitely, Definitely
yes, Definitely yes. Definitely.
Like, also like the duct tape over the name plate.
Like, oh, that's awesome, Yeah. All of.
That. Oh, did.
I. Reevis.
Yeah. Reevis left.
Is that who got him mad? Yeah, Reevis.
Reevis left, 'cause he wanted like more money.
And then he left to go play with the Bucks, the Patriots.
Then he came back. I do think a lot of people were
were mad about Reevis. That was.
I was a little bit younger then. The Yeah, the name over what?
Yeah. What was the Rivas Island?
That was the big thing. The.
Yeah, Rivas Island. I'm trying to.
Think like I like essentially like you'd see like somebody
duct tape Darnold's like name and just make it little.
Just be like that's our guy. It's not even worth buying the
new one because we'll have another one in two years.
Wait. Did I keep you from?
Heading out with your scumbag friends tonight you you
mentioned that you you had maybe already had plans.
Is this? Did you open for us low key?
But not really. Like, it's it's the game no one
cares about like it. It was more it.
It'd be more just to see pals who are like home or whatever.
But it was really. It wasn't a big gathering, I
guess. OK.
It wasn't the core. Scumbags it was.
It was more guys I haven't seen in a while and like maybe one or
two tags adjacent. Yeah.
Oh my. God is Rebus in my top three
quarterbacks of all time. Dude, he's potentially #1.
Holy shit, I take a bullet for. Revis but.
Also. And everyone, but also David.
Wants to get in. Front of that gun.
That would make it a lot easier. Yeah, if Namath Namath.
Is definitely above me on that depth chart.
Oh man, oh man, Rod. What?
What's What are going to be your, your.
Offseason plans here for for content you can go on a little
hibernation. You're going to ratchet up the
grind level or what? Dude, it's.
It's it's gonna be some hibernation.
I don't know. It's kind of gonna be going
into. It's gonna be kind of my own
darkness's treat where I'm gonna kind of go away here.
I don't know. I don't have any concrete plans
almost. It's almost like walking off
time to then do something with my life.
But yeah, just something just in terms of like, I think I could
schedule things out a lot better.
Like, I think this year I kind of held some videos I knew would
be bangers and I kind of held them for August.
I wish I kind of trickled them in from like July and maybe got
the algorithm going. So yeah, just kind of like I'm
all over the place. So I need to kind of like do
better about scheduling, like, you know, this many videos here
and all of that. So kind of kind of taking a
step, a step away, a little bit of like time off and then after
that going to be going into like maybe doing some spreadsheet
stuff, tweaking some models and then kind of planning out the
future, I guess. But it's kind of the down period
I like. It spreadsheet stuff.
Oh yeah, some. Of them, Get them.
Bad as well. What was?
You said you said figure out some life stuff in there, like
are you going to get your teacher teaching?
No, no, no, I meant. I meant more.
So I meant more so that when Pete asked me what I'm about to
do, I don't really know. I just know I have a set time
blocked off to then either, you know, take some time and then
also do some planning and stuff. So in terms of like what I have
work, what I'm working on, I don't really know yet.
But once I sit down on my desk and I'm like, all right, let's
lock in, I'll figure some, like some boring stuff too.
Like, I don't know, like taxes and all of that.
Like, grown up stuff. Ron sounds.
Like the the corporate thing where they're like can we
schedule a meeting to have to plan out that next meeting
that's where you're doing that with.
The that's making my free time. To point out.
How I'm going to do my free time?
Yeah, it's like it's. We'll figure out what I'm going
to do in the new year, but we'll sit down to then figure out what
I'm going to do in the new year, if that makes sense.
I I. Genuinely think that to get
yourself in the right mindset here, you should dial into a
conference call just as you want.
You know. Just me.
Just. Me and the and.
The good old corporate buddies. Yeah, yeah.
Just get maybe? Get a couple scumbags to Tyler,
the corporate scumbags. You'll have a I'll have a
meeting. Of the minds.
So, Elijah. Moore took a.
Big hit there. Looks like he's our, I mean.
He walked off. Yeah, go into the medical tent.
Whoa. That's gotta be a flag.
Holy cow. Oh.
That's gonna.
You guys need 4. I have Ford on a on a bullet.
Wow, what a play. That's great for Simeon A.
Lot of time for him to throw, he passes then.
Putt and. I gotta.
Be vibe on this Elite. Defense that solos the engineer
of. Well, I'm just glad that they.
Punted it, you know, four straight times, despite good
field position or whatever. They didn't even throw the.
Flag Flacco takes a shot to the face, Extends the play, hits
Jerome Ford, man. I'm just stoked.
At this guy that had in the an FFPC main he got he propelled
himself into first last week. With a Flacco.
Amari and Joku double. So he drafted Amari and I assume
and Joku maybe added it, but probably drafted both of them
and probably Deshaun Watson, right?
And then added Flacco at some point, started them all
together. When Amari was out, he benched
Flacco and Amari because he didn't have the double.
He's playing only in who he's playing.
Kyler Murray as his quarterback this week, and he's probably not
very happy right now. Flacco is.
Falling. 290. 6 yards. That's crazy.
And three. TDs.
Right. Is it 3?
Now what's crazy and? Not taking a long way from
Flaco, but it's. So much yards.
After catch on his yards tonight, Yeah, and Joku's like.
Got a ton of yards after catch, obviously Forge just had a ton
there. Forge's good, something that I
will. Say like macro view, I know
we're goofing around or whatever.
I I've kind of written off some of these like year 2 running
backs. Year 2 running backs have been
kind of great this year where you have like Ford, Kyron
Williams, Amir White popped off here.
I think they're all year two guys where like that didn't
really do anything in year one. You know what I mean?
That you kind of just like you know, out of sight, out of mind.
It's like OK if he doesn't pop in year one and who really
cares. We're like a lot of these wide
receivers like you know your sky morphs of the world where they
don't pop in year one, it's like we can kind of be certain that
they suck. It feels a little bit different
for running backs, if that makes sense.
Yeah, I mean, I. Think with a guy like Jerome
Ford too like the the talk all offseason was like I remember in
Matthew Berry does like a combine rumors.
Article And he. Was.
That was one of the big ones out of that.
Is it like the Browns really like Jerome Ford?
They're not going to be bringing in anybody else, really, which
they didn't. Obviously the chub injuries what
unlocked his fantasy value, but having that clear #2 is really
valuable. I love the article too.
I think that. He was saying that they were
going to pass the ball a bunch more.
I'm not really. I imagine that their pass rate
has to be more than it was last year, but definitely over the
last few weeks it's. It's spiked a lot.
I just completely whiffed on. Kyron too.
I I know. I feel like Gretchen maybe
talking about it earlier, but like Kyron was never even on my
radar. As, like, a guy I was.
Targeting he was on. My radar in the sunset.
I was telling everyone not to fucking draft this guy.
I was telling Pat there. Was no way he could be
successful. He does not have the the
athleticism to be NFL successful that was.
My probably my. Biggest miss of the year.
That was bad. Little breeze, little.
Breeze check down? Yep, but I but I say.
That you're too thing to say that I think next year's Kyron
one's gonna be Zach Evans. Naturally, I like.
Chase Brown. I mean, Chase Brown's very nice.
Yeah, he looks. Good he isn't Chase Brown.
Infinitely more athletic than Kyron Williams.
Yeah, and that. That's sort.
Of but he's funny because he like has some some production
red flags he's not but wasn't like a super awesome guy so and
Kyron was pretty productive but just had zero athleticism so
you're but I I'll tell you right now.
The underdog draft market will be very willing to give a guy
like Chase Brown the Rashad Penny treatment of like if
things break right, he'll crush. Whereas like you need a real
dusty guy to not ever get drafted like Kyron for a while
there. That's true in an alternate
universe. Kyron Williams is literally
Kenneth Gainwell, and you can't, like, really convince me
otherwise. What?
Yeah. I think that's fair.
But I think Kenneth. Gainwell is OK.
You. Know, Yeah, Kyron's more Kyron's
more talented than Gamewell, I think.
This is after what we've seen. This year, I agree.
Yeah, yeah, he's good. I mean, you have to admit he's
good. I do think it's very McVeigh and
scheme and situation dependent. But he's good.
I think is a lesson on Rams. Running backs, which we kind of
already knew, But now to a fuller extent, yeah, yeah, but
it's. Interesting cuz Daryl Henderson
was never able to succeed. Really.
You know, he got lots of. Opportunity to earn.
He had a couple good stretches. I remember he one game against
the Bills where he had like 100 plus.
He had like a really good game. It's a bill, yeah.
But I mean, he could have been he he could have like broken
fantasy if he was good. Yeah.
It just, it seems like he just wasn't very good at football.
Yeah, yeah. Some of these.
Guys like Royce. Freeman and all that, like when
when Kyron was out, they couldn't, they couldn't get
there with Daryl and Royce cause like that.
That just kind of shows you like, you know, they weren't as
good as Kyron, you know? Karen adds.
Something certainly. I mean that's that's pretty
unarguable, but. I I think he's very.
Fragile, like in dynasty going into the offseason, like, they
have to add that and he could be, he could be hit pretty hard
if they add another talented back.
The thing with Kyron that's tough is like, what does he do
that much better than someone else good?
Like, is he an incredible receiving back?
No. Is he like an amazing, like
breakaway runner, chunk play, runner like?
I guess that's. Probably what you say is like
pretty good chunk play runner, but like that requires a lot of
volume, You know, in the same way that I think like Josh
Jacobs is sort of fragile because he need, he kind of
needs all the work. Yeah, Aaron Williams is similar
and he doesn't have the pedigree, I will say.
I. I totally.
Agree. With Josh's point here, when
guys are good for McVeigh, like he does, stick with them even
when they're not good. When he has guys that he loves,
like he loved Vin Jefferson for his whole career with the thing.
It's like every year we heard about how Vin Jefferson's ready
to take the next step forward. It never happened.
Like he might be really into Kyron again next year, you know?
Yeah. He definitely can, Yeah, once
you. Earn his.
Trust you are. You're good to.
Go and like go calls higbee screens.
That's right. I was a few weeks ago, I was
talking about, oh, I didn't go into the Rams and I couldn't
believe it. I like completely blacked out
that they signed him again. I remember in the offseason
reading some quotes from Kyle Shanahan talking about Brock
Purdy. I shared these in some some
capacity. I forget how, but it was just
like, so funny that he was, like, clearly just in love with
Brock Purdy. Like the whole thing was.
Like, oh, Brock Purdy. Like he he fought through this
injury. Oh oh, that's Gibson.
Not, not time out. About how he like played this.
Injury and like talked it out and he's like, that's when I
knew all the time out. What are they doing?
You're I, you know I want Robert Sala to get fired.
You're right, he has to go. We needed, we needed another
pass attempt there. There's no reason they let it
run all the way down to 3 minutes to use their last time
out. There's no reason they couldn't
do that and try a quick out and then you throw it out of bounds
if it's not there. We could have done it a couple
times to try to gain a few more yards.
We're trying to cut this to. 17 with a field goal.
That's our goal right now. We're gonna cut.
It to 17 that. Key. #17 That's the thing they.
Should have really called the timeout and taken a shot to the
end zone. I wasn't even thinking about the
score. But you, yeah, take a shot to
the end zone. You're inside the inside the 40.
He's like, we got in the. Field goal.
Range. Now we're gonna run it down,
take the timeout with three seconds, kick our field goal.
Like what? I'm glad you all say this.
Simeon if, if they would have done that plan like we were
almost on pace for the Simeon pass attempts.
He's up to 14 now, a lot more common.
It's like a. Miracle.
A lot. More common, I mean this is the
right? Script they get, they get ball
1st and he's got, he's got the right script.
And he's. He's playing well enough that
he's not getting benched. He's actually like showing dude,
that's Edmertelli, man. That's straight up Edmertelli.
No one gets that reference. No.
Who's that, Mortelli? Well, anyway, to finish up my
point about Sean McVeigh, he loves Kyron Williams in the same
way that that Shanahan loves rock pretty.
I was reading the quotes about about McVeigh talking about
Kyron and he he loves him. He just loves him.
Ron, you want to build? Some.
Second-half ones with us. We can give your your Jets eye a
close look here. Yeah, I would love to, I.
Would love to build my boys. Let's get some scumbags.
Are we the scumbags? Guys could be.
We. Can work our way up to it.
I speak up there one day. Just keep.
Keep grinding. Keep grinding.
Oh. OK, Garrett Wilson for for.
Simeon, they're saying we're going to hit it based on these
current odds 35, 1/2 Garrett. Wilson.
Is already at 35. Let's take some jets under and
we like in solidarity with Ron. Let's find some jets under.
Yeah, which which under do. You like here, Ron?
Jason. Brownlee.
Is he running round Brownlee? I got this dude Brownlee's this
UDFA that made some really sick catches in camp.
He did catch ATD. Last week and they're they might
be in garbage time script. That's what I'm trying to look
up from Yankee. But they're gonna be in garbage
time script. So feels like a a questionable
sweat. Yeah, I wouldn't go lower.
On Brownlee, Brownlee would be an interesting maybe higher, but
that's a dangerous one. Dude, Njoku. 20 more receiving
yards higher. Higher.
Easily higher. I mean, he's What do we think
Jets suck against the middle of? The field.
No, I think that's. Easy, I mean.
Moore's out. Moore's more is probably not
going to play another. And they might not.
Grow a lot I was looking at. Flacco's passing.
Yards he He only needs about like 75 more.
Yeah, but even. That feels.
Like a lower like, I mean higher Oh.
Wait, mostly 4.5 assists? Dude, I'm not.
I can't. Do a a Flaca lower right now.
This guy would just bury us all. He's fucking.
Torching right now. He's throwing for 400.
Today, he really is. It looks like, what about
playing a lot? So I don't we don't want to
touch that well, maybe it's. An ultimate higher what?
Do we think about higher? On the 6.5, I mean Brownlee.
Seems kind of like a fun sweat to me.
If he's playing a lot, let's do it.
What's it? What's his snaps?
Guys, is he on the field? Patch is 6 playing.
One I gotta see Junkie I. I imagine wide receiver 3.
This sounds brutal. Yeah, it does.
Stand up. Gibson had a couple passes and
design passes. If we're gonna do.
That kind of, yeah. I kind of like him, too.
It's only 10 yards and he had some designed wide receiver
screens there. I kind of like the I.
Like the rush and receiving just for one yard more, yeah.
Yeah, for. Sure.
I like that dude, the simian lines.
Are dude, what about Riley? Patterson kicking points.
He's currently at four at 7 1/2. I feel like when they're up by
this much, they'll settle for a field goal at some point in the
second-half. What do you guys think?
I like conservative. In.
The red zone, I think you get one field goal, one extra point.
You're there. I like that too a lot.
Of Ben Jones. We lock this in as a.
Three burger and then we could. Build a 5 off of this.
I'm. I'm good with that.
All right, I'll drop this one in.
The chat here. This is David Najoku Xavier
Gibson. Xavier Gibson Rushing.
Receiving higher and Riley Patterson kicking points higher.
They don't even have Breece. Hall numbers up.
They're afraid. They're afraid to hang Breece
Hall lines like, you know, they know we'd just be snapping up
all the overs with Breece. And just a.
Fun fact. And Joku's actually a Jersey
scumbag himself. Really.
Yep, he actually went to high. School about 30 minutes from
there. That is a.
Fun fact. Another fun fact.
So did Greg Olson, where Leiloki called New Jersey tight end
state over here. There you go then.
They they all go to Miami. Yep.
They do have did Bree's stuff is up.
You like 21? Receiving yards from him in the
second-half. Yes, I think so.
I think I like that 53 and a. Half receiving yard line.
Oh God, I fucking. Love that?
Yeah. So let.
Let's get. One more here, bring this on
home and I think maybe it all. Comes back to Simi.
I think we got. To do simian yards on if we're
doing Gibson and Bruce Hall, or at least.
Completions can we throw? Those are short.
Those are both short passes. I like.
I like the. Completions, anything other than
like a hedge off of the passing attempts for our main one, yeah,
we could throw the. We got to throw the Brownlee in
there. You like on top of?
Gibson Oh, that does get a little, but maybe, maybe.
This one we do Brownlee, I don't know.
Yeah, maybe it's out of the Gibson.
Instead of who? Instead of they want.
To take Gibson out and put Brownlee in, How about this?
How about we 2? V2 it Let's do it around.
So which? Do we like this?
I like the kind of completions angle there for the shorts.
I like that. I like.
That I'm cool with that. All right, so.
Let's do let's. Split it.
Do you want to do one with Gibson and one with Brownlee?
Yeah, sure. I'm down for.
That all right for. The.
For the Brownlee one, do you want to switch Simeon to to
yards 'cause I thought that was a good call too sure.
I mean if you dude, if. Brownlee hits.
It's probably like, I mean, if Brownlee hits.
Probably A50 yarder down in field is what I'm thinking.
That's 6 1/2 yards right there. So yeah, I mean, he's going to
get there. He's got eight blocks to half
yards. What is this?
I. Literally, was.
Thinking, oh, that was not all in sharp money came in.
The sharp money came in. I was literally.
Like short passes, so you're getting completions, but Brown
is going to be catching something down field.
I have no reason to believe that whatsoever.
Yeah, I'm getting hot on. It.
Look at these overs we took. Around I I thought you were
going to talk his own a bunch of unders.
Yeah, I don't know what I'm doing.
I don't even got pickums in Jersey.
I don't even know what. I'm doing we we're crushing.
All over, dude. That's how we that's how we
roll. No pickums in.
Jersey. Damn, Ron.
You guys really are scumbags over there.
It sucks. Got a good beaches sometimes.
Though. I got pesky in chat.
He's he's from. He frequents my channel like you
said. There's no way that Ron bringing
up NJ and Joku hit the over 30 minute bar.
I do bring that up a lot, he also.
Has a brother Evidence and Charles, in case anyone was
wondering really. Dude, did Joku, He's so funny,
man. Did you see the comment on like
the Browns did? It was like some kind of like
graphic design. Oh yeah, he was in front of the.
Fireplace and he was in front of the fire and.
He covered on the Instagram. He's like, why'd you have to
tell me that? close to the fire?
I love him. I'd die for that guy.
There's two. There's two guys you'd die for,
Yeah, Yeah, this is the. First time I've ever seen
someone so. Enthused to tail us.
Normally it's just outright disdain for the things we put in
our pick em injuries. I did have someone reply.
To us on Twitter when I posted it and they hated the Jerome
Ford higher that hit in 1 1/2 quarters.
So I think those are our always our best indicators that we're
on the right track. When people viscerally hate one
of the numbers in the entry, yeah, I agree.
People hated the Ford one. Like it was, yeah, only it's
like. The Jets have, actually.
Been bad against the run this year.
Yeah, yeah. People run on them a ton.
What's all this El Nino stuff, fellas?
What the hell? That's David's Madden.
What? Do you mean the El Nino?
Like what is that? Like, what are we doing so?
When week 17. Went too far.
The actual. Bit is, people were worried
about this game in the summer because of outdoor weather in
January here. But then there was all the
people who busted out their Farmer's Almanac and said,
actually it's an El Nino year and the weather pattern should
be more mild than expected. And Davis dug his heels in and
said I'm never drafting A Bretter and Jenner Brown.
Little did Davis know that probably wouldn't have mattered
'cause he only had one team in the POM 49 return of the Bom.
Bom, do you? Think it is pomp.
So I So The funny thing is, Davis, he made a final, but he's
too embarrassed to say these are his words.
Too embarrassed to say unless he wins, which it is I.
Tweeted. Out four teams that I made the
final in. I didn't tweet out my Pomeranian
2 team that made the final so hard.
There's a difference. In you tweeting out your
Pomeranian team, there's a difference in Davis tweeting
out. Davis needs this palm
championship right now. I really hope.
It's the Palm 2. Specifically so that I'm in it
with him, dude, I think it might even.
Be something worse, Like it might be like the undercat or
something. Oh no.
Rookies and sophomores. Would be really funny.
I don't know, Davis. Was in.
There. What was it?
Wasn't there like like a flex was a $2.00 one?
Was that the what was the lowest?
One they had was that it was like a what?
Was it? Was there the?
The doodle? The goldendoodle?
Was that one of them? Oh, that was one of them that.
Those foot feel real quick. Dude, I think having any team
alive. In week 17's a great feat.
Man, I I can't even say it. No, I I do too.
I need to I just did you Max the big board part of them?
I I did Max the big. Board.
I had a couple big board sweats and nothing freaking went
through. So dude.
It's yeah, sunshine and. Rainbows, it's just like, like,
I think, I think Liam said in one of his streams.
He was saying like you'd expect to make like a a BBM final once
every 10 years. Well, if you're Liam.
You just put. Everything.
And it doesn't. Run better and then based on
based on this three. Advanced structure, yeah.
I think it'd be a little, it was a little bit better, a little
bit easier to get in last year because what was it in week 15?
It was like 1 out of 12 maybe, Yeah.
And. Then they.
Jumped into one out of 16. One day, for now, all I have is
just, I have a measly, I have a ring from like a playoff contest
that I won. What was it?
What was that? One you don't.
You don't have that. Quran I don't.
I don't have anything. Yeah, look at that.
No, money and money can't buy. You won't be send one.
You didn't get it even. Like you didn't get anything.
No trophy. Well.
I think I. Think Liam like.
I don't. Think.
They just give you the. Ring, I think you have to you.
Have to say I. Would like a ring please.
It'd be really funny. If it was more like the Stanley
Cup trophy and like Liam just never gave it up.
Maybe Liam's supposed to give me that ring, yeah?
It's like Lord of the Rings is just.
Rotting Liam from the inside tweet about.
Dalton Kincaid. It's like whispering into his
ear. Dude.
I the team that I was talking about earlier that had iuke that
was a touchdown away from making it was a Josh Allen team with
Dawson Knox and Dalton Kincaid, which I had argued all summer
was not a good way to go and didn't get in because it scored
no points at Titan's. Well, I told you.
I was like, you should literally shop that line up to Liam.
Like I think he showed it to us like on Sunday or something.
Yeah, I didn't want to be able to pay like 2K for it, just
sight unseen about the. Bill's double stack.
And he would just write you a check.
God damn it, Sanderson. It's so easy to smoke these
Canadian guys out with their fucking butter tarts and shit.
I gotta have him on. And we'll talk some devil's
hockey. Jacob was seriously.
On Twitter making butter tart references like the entire world
would know what he was talking about.
I was gonna comment saying what the?
Fuck is a butter tart. No one knows what a butter.
Tart is, and he's like, oh this. One's gonna if I saw a butter
tart I. Would.
I wouldn't even want it. Let's slap it out of your hand,
Jacob. I don't want any of that
Canadian bullshit. Imagine Jacob.
Bringing a platter of butter tarts to the jet's tailgate.
Butter tart. Anyone.
God bless him. That would be.
It's strictly twinky in those parts.
Real culture flash there. Yeah, some class.
You're not to the bills. Tailgate.
You know, Congrats to Henry Muto.
Said he got BM team threw only at 42 bullets.
That's nice. Yeah.
By the way, if you guys. Are in the Deposit Kingdom
Discord and you missed it. I there's a thread that I
posted. In general, if you have a team
in BBM 4, go post it in there and then EZ has a sheet.
We were kind of rounding up all of the collective sweats from
the Deposit Kingdom. I think there's already like
1617 DBM lineups in there. Excuse me, look at all these
butter. Tart stands coming out of the
woodwork. Jesus.
Banned them all. Should I put them in timeouts?
Butter tart gets you in a 5 minute stream yard timeout.
That's where I get kicked out, fellas.
No, dude, I mean. You you can vibe as long as you
want, yeah. No.
I want to. I want to talk more.
Shit about spun bags in Jersey. Like, that's what I I mean,
that's what I'm I lived in Jersey for for like 9 months.
I lived in Montclair, NJ 0 and I actually went, I lived in Jersey
City for like another nine months.
There you go. Yeah, I like Montclair.
Let's go throw. The fun with this is actually
pretty nice. This is a definite run play
action. You got to establish it.
I mean, once you cut that lead to 17, yeah, right, It's.
Time to get back to playing your.
Brand of football come out of half too. 1954 NFL championship.
I hate when they do that. Yeah, Brown's been beat up on
somebody that's been since they had Jim Brown.
Man who? Who would have known that
tonight's ship cast would devolve into a a Canadian and
Jersey culture clash? I love it.
Make represent.
Oh yeah, Breece. Oh yeah.
Breece. Yes.
Run it. Oh, come on.
I thought he had the corner there.
Yeah. He's so special.
He's. So special.
Hey, Pat. Imagine imagine guys like me and
you were drafting Dalvin Cook at any any point in stretch during
this last summer. Could you imagine doing?
That did we take him on a on a team?
Yeah. No, I don't know.
But dude, the the Twitter. Outrage of like you can't draft,
You can't draft Breeze. Dalvin's there.
All the tornicios No seal, dude. Tell me.
About it I. Was I was drafting.
I was drafting breeze through it.
But it was it got it got heated at the end there, man.
Oh yeah, it was ridiculous. Oh yeah.
I meanwhile Dalvin Cook, maybe. The worst spent $8 million in
New York history. It's just it was just to make
Aaron. Happy, I think dude.
This whole narrative about, like, making Aaron happy, did he
better be going out? He better be fucking.
Smoothies with Dalvin. Cook like you know, they better
have a weekly bridge game. They better be playing.
We'll get. That one packet on.
He's got an unblocked. Defender in his face.
He just stops and reverses field completely.
And that guy's just like, I mean, I I don't like, it doesn't
look like that flashy. It doesn't look like Derrick
Barry Sanders ish, but. Like there's.
A lot of running backs. That can do.
That when there's an unblocked DN in their face and just like
freeze them his ability to even watch this happen to con to.
Carry. Just runs into his own.
Folder. Look, man, not everyone can do
that behind this Jet's offensive line, man.
Like it is. It's bad.
I love Breece, dude. He's he's really.
Fun, man. He's so fun.
I don't know why this. Makes me.
Laugh, dude. I did like.
Three hours after. The Dalvin Sun and Silva came.
On and was like, you guys can't be drafting him and Jacob
Sanderson. Oh, I remember that.
Yeah, it was awesome. 10 of you guys we stayed on for.
So long. That was such a fun stream.
I was just like, I'm draft. I'm going to be drafting Breece
this. The team that I got in was, I
actually don't know the date, but I was.
It must have been very late because because Cup went in the
late second round. This was immediately after my
draft with Silva where I made him take breeze and he was
talking. Yeah.
And then you texted me and I I was like about to leave with my
family or something. But I jumped on and was like,
here's the actual story. It wasn't that big of a deal.
Like I was only on for like, that's right.
You came on for like 5 seconds. Yeah, it was so fun.
Oh man. He was.
Silva was. Like telling the story like it
was the worst thing in the world.
I went back and watched it and I was like, I got to go on and
clear up the air. Man, this is terrible.
Oh, it's so funny. And Liam was like.
That was my first time meeting Silva.
That was Liam's time. Or yours.
No, that was Liam I. I I'm pretty sure like, it's
like someone just like sent him a link to the stream, catches
the pitch. And breaks a.
Tackle simultaneously, you know what I mean?
Running backs just dropped the ball there, yeah.
And this is the league's best. Defense.
This is such a sick. Play.
Oh, and I'm shaking you while I catch the ball like, wow, that
was that was awesome. So good I I love the breeze
stuff. Guys, but if these could be some
check downs. Rush the test, we got a.
Long way to go up. Trevor Simeon, Mountain Boys 5,
rushes 0. And they're driving.
That's the. Funniest part?
Here we go. There we go.
Breeze, baby. Breeze.
That'll work, come on. Just give Breeze the ball.
Every time. I love the you.
Guys, ever seen the QB School guy, Jason Sullivan?
Yeah, I I watched like a Zach. He's broke down like Zach Wilson
versus the Chiefs. And I think that he put it so
well that like if Hackett was competent, the entire offense
would be just structured around either giving Brice the ball or
giving Garrett Wilson the ball. Just like fake the Brice Give to
Garrett. Wilson Give to Brice, fake the
Brice, give to Garrett. Like it should just be.
That should be what the entire thing is built out of.
I mean Josh McDaniels. Was able to do that last year
with Devonte Adams and Josh Jacobs.
And then I mean the guys, he literally just got fired and the
the team looks way better without him.
So it's not like he's amazing. Like this isn't that hard.
Who? Is that Ron, That's Brownlee?
Brownlee look at Flacco. Thank you to you guys.
Thank you to Yankee. Thank you to anyone who did
research to figure out if he was on the field or not before we
put him in our pick of entry. I know I did.
What number? I told you, look if.
Brownlee hits, He's hitting down field.
We look at the simian yard. That's a thing to simian.
Didn't happen. Look at that.
The one of your love get the reason.
Here. I.
Love it. Oh, what's going on with it?
It's not her step. What's up, Steph?
Welcome to the. Party.
Hey guys, what's up? What's?
Up. Steph Yeah.
Just celebrating the easiest pick em ever.
Jason Brownlee higher. I mean, imagine.
Imagine. I didn't get it.
'Cause I I can't do em from the chat, my it always like
hourglasses and never works. Yeah, wow, I need to.
I got the 1st. One problem 'cause.
I can post them in the discord too if that's an issue.
Yeah, the Discord I could. Do it fine, but I don't know why
for some reason. OK.
I usually do them with. You but that, but you guys are
too quick on that one, all right.
Some more attention. Well, we.
Just knew the Brownlee. Stuff was going to move if we
didn't hop on it, so I. Think it did move?
Up again, I thought. Stuff.
Like stuff was moving. Yankee was just.
Hammering it, Yankee hammered. Good for Yankee.
He knew. He's fucking knew.
No, my, my. Only finals team is like.
Really hot at the moment so. I'm pretty happy.
Do you have Ford on it? Yeah.
I do I. Got Ford and Paul and Conklin.
Wow, there you go. I'm I'm in 2nd at.
The moment I said stop, stop, and don't do anything else,
yeah, what? What?
Tournament is that it's a Chihuahua.
Nice Still 20. 5. K up top So oh Garrett, how?
Many people are in that finals. It is 275.
I think that's not bad. Is that my?
Dad, what did you? Say, I think I read they're.
Kicking Come on, 235. 235. Yeah, you can live with that, of
course. They're kicking.
Dude, that was the the the sicko is laughing.
That was like some fucking, like, joker shit.
Yeah, no, it's definitely. A kick you got, dude.
Yeah, I'm with you guys. Fire Solana.
Get him. At it.
How? Did, how did.
Garrett not catch that? Pass because we have.
Him on two teams. I know we started.
We needed that. Yeah, we really needed that.
I mean, Greece is doing great, yeah.
But we have Breece and Garrett going on two teams together and
Breece on some extra ones. I can't stand him.
On the side and I have no Joku. On my main event.
So I'm like I said, I'm thrilled right now with this game.
Great start the. Chat is.
Struggling Samuel's going to light himself on fire.
We got some self immolation. What's it called?
Yeah, that's it. Let's.
Not do it, fire jokes. When, when, when?
On the joke Who's in the Yeah, the joke.
Who's in this game, guys? I mean, what are we?
What are? We doing here.
Oh well. Lisa.
Going for we? Missed it.
He got blocked. I mean, just enjoy the show.
Fellas like this is just. Like I don't even want to win.
It's just like, my God, man, we're in the National Football
League, dude. Oh shit.
Oh God. That's so.
Funny. I mean, they were potting.
Before. So I mean they're taking a
little step forward, right? They get a penalty.
But they they choose to kick and then they get a flag and then
they kick and it doesn't go in like, it's just like.
Take the points. The jet take the points.
You guys got some points? Locked up.
Good work. Oh.
Man, Unreal. What is this one?
It's like. Every week I don't.
Watch The Jets a lot. They're too depressing.
No, this is literally. Like, and it's it's it's fine
now because we're at a playoff contention, but like, dude, the
game, like, I wanted to. I wanted to kill somebody.
The game, the Vegas game on prime time is just awful.
The prime time game versus the Chargers was awful.
The Falcons the other week where we lost like 13 to 8, 'cause we
had Tim Boyle, that quarterback. Like it's just it's just awful.
It the whole thing sucks. Was last week awful?
It's always awful, Even the. Wins are the win last week was
awful the because then I wanted. I want Joe, all offensive
lineman out of Notre Dame, like 6-8, has a basketball background
or something and we just win a game for no reason, dude.
Like, it's just like, where's draft pick you got?
You gotta love it. You're already scutty.
Basketball tape of NFL prospects Dude, dude, the only reason I.
Even I I like, I'm I'm a draft nerd and the only reason 'cause
I'm a Jets fan, like it's just like this is all I got the the
draft for NC offseason that is my season.
That's all I got. The hope?
The dream? What's?
Worse. Them winning meaningless games
so they can't be in position to draft the guy you want.
Or them losing, getting in position, having the guy on the
board and then selecting someone else.
The. Latter just because.
At that point, you'd be like, you know what if I was GM, all
the bad things wouldn't happen. That's that's what it.
Is that's really what it is. It's like if I was up there with
my draft board, I'd get this sorry franchise turned around.
I feel like every. Year that the draft was in New
York, you always had Jets fans pissed off.
That was at stake. But they moved.
They moved the draft around now, but that was my annual staple.
Watching the draft growing up, it was like pissed off Jets fans
about the the famous one I think is the SAP.
One, we took like a tight end, right?
Like I wasn't even alive. But The Jets was like a tight
end, Like top three or something, I think oversap.
They like interview. Him And they're like, we want
this guy and then they they draft somebody else and they're
like, what? The fuck Everyone's just.
Pissed. Like it's just awful.
Like Gary Vee in the crowd. That's.
That's the worst thing of all. Yeah, that's that's the worst.
So I have a question. Did you actually like Zach
Wilson when you drafted him? Did you think that like he was?
So you want to use that fields. But like, as a fan, I was just
like, I was rooting him on early on.
Just like, maybe he'll be good. I wanted Fields and dude,
everyone out there is going to say, oh, Justin Fields sucks.
Like he's not good. Like, it would have been the
same thing. It wouldn't have Justin Fields.
They're they're not the. Same thing.
They're not in the same. Tier of bad fields would at
least be exciting. And I and I I will die on the
hill that Mike Lafleur or yeah, Mike Lafleur was fired unjustly
last year, and him with Justin Fields and his little run scheme
that he brought up from the 49ers would have been sweet.
So everybody just. I agree.
Kyle Brady. A tight end out of Penn State,
9th overall, 3 picks before Hall of Famer Warren Sapp in 1995?
Yep. Do you like?
That process was so strange to me because it seemed like Wilson
wasn't thought of as, you know, kind of a the clear cut #2 in
the class. But then very quickly, The Jets.
Oh, did he just take that away? Just pretty sure he just.
Ripped that straight out. Wow, Whitehead.
There we go. And we'll just get another three
and we'll make it a 14 point game.
Yeah, these. Short fields.
Are not good for we kill you with field we kill.
You with field goals, man. Greg Delight might be our best.
He was. Down.
I don't know. I don't know.
The ball might have started moving, though.
We need the. Other angle do you guys want to
hear a devastating? Stat.
I just saw on Twitter. That's so close. 30. 8 year old.
Joe Flacco has 13 passing touchdowns this December.
Kenny Pickett has 13 touchdowns in his career.
It's weird. Nah.
Only someone in here to. Tell you.
I have Kenny Pickett on both of my big Board finals teams.
Are you serious? I'm gonna.
I'm gonna get him a ship. Yeah, luckily I have.
Dude, get him a ship. I have a goth.
In fields with him on one and Love and Dak with him on the
other. So I don't need him, but I gotta
get Kenny Pickett a ship. 3 Q BS like.
Has to be the thing next year, right?
I think it has to be, yeah. I've been thinking about this
too. I think it was 20 rounds, so.
It was also you had an. It's, it's.
Tough, because it's so. It's much easier to, like
envision yourself taking it down with three stacks, but at the
same time, like there's. Been so many.
Late round hits, you know and then like some of them like Tank
Dell get hurt. But like Puka and Kyron, right?
Drone forward like these guys if you have them in your lineup
they're massive for you potentially and and and have
already been massive in getting here.
So the opportunity cost is high or higher than might seem but at
the same time like if you've got if you like tacked on a Purdy
stack you'd also feel pretty psyched about that.
So I don't know I I kind of see both.
Do you think that three? 'S going to be optimal though,
Or do you just think that more people are going to do it?
Because I still feel like 2 is ideally what you want in the end
if you can get them healthy in there.
I didn't get an extra that. Extra skilled player that fills
that extra position. I mean, that just gives you so
many more options. Still in a tournament it does,
but it does. But you have like.
Optionality on like the stack hits like like my my team right,
has the Gino double. That's fun, but it would also be
more fun if I had like another double that was, you know, also
low owned, right? So you have multiple paths to
that Leo don't need. The quarterback.
You don't need a quarterback to stack.
You don't. Necessary, but I mean somebody
wrote an. Article about that.
I remember we only wrote them. In the.
Manifesto about how the three quarterback can work if you have
them all stacked up right? And I think all these QB
injuries and the longer season and where we're at with the
quarterback life cycle, we have a lot of young QBs.
I think that plays into why we had some bench jinx like the
Desmond Ritter thing. Like he weirdly got benched
early, then brought back. And like, there's some teams
that that are doing like some things like that with Sam Howell
winds up benched here, right? Like some people were suggesting
that was possible. I don't know any of that.
But you're not good. I put, listen, I took an L on
legendary sickos on hell before he got benched, so I should at
least get a little bit, at least get some credit.
I was giving you credit. Come on, that was funny.
I think where people? Will mess up the three
quarterback thing is still not thinking through it through the
lens of draft capital allocated to it.
And three, quarterback was dominant this year because you
were doing it late and if you sprayed and prayed and you ended
up with Brock Purdy and who else am I forgetting back there?
Jordan Love would be another guy right now.
Like, that really worked. But my guess is people overreact
to the three quarterback thing. They grab their one early, They
grab one in the middle. They still grab 3.
Yeah. And now they spend way too much
time. That's.
Not what you want to? Do Yeah, if you do Jalen Hurts
game. Step Yeah, yeah.
They had. Like you.
Jalen hurts. I wanna do 2.
QB But one of the things I noticed in some of my pods, and
I I mean, this is like my first year doing a lot of of
basketball. But I did, I think at least 5R
BS in most. I didn't do a lot of hyper
fragile 4R BS, but I noticed some I dude in one of my pods.
One of the teams that was like, almost won.
It was a 4QB3 running back build.
And I was like, whoa, wow, like I got.
I got to the semi finals. I got a the like one of the only
three running back builds I did. It was CMCJT and Pollard, I
think. OK, wow, yeah, that one works,
which I don't know how. What team?
What team is that forgetting? Now one of the one of my boss
teams is AJT team. I snuck them through with CMC
and Breece, but I think I I like the idea of like more 4RB
builds. Even David.
Bell 5. Did something.
Yeah, he caught a. Fast.
So like 3QB4 running back or? Or similar I.
I don't know. I that's where I would pull from
the quarterback is what I'm saying is I would go running
back. You were running backs
personally, yeah. That makes sense.
You're kind of already saying like it's it's one of the things
I think is interesting about Bestball.
Like I wrote about this. Before last season.
Of like oh if you're going, if you're doing 3 quarterback, it
fits better with running back, running back starts because you
need to attack that 0 running back Group A little bit less and
so hyper fragile would be the natural fit.
I think if you were to go like more aggressive with the with
the quarterback stuff you. You need less.
Running back capital so you have extra bullets.
And you gotta stack all. Three up.
So you I mean yeah you you can do all that you need the you
need the roster spots for stacks too right.
Right. Good point.
Don't think. Dumb.
Thing to say. But I find it hard with Bestball
to, like, really learn lessons from my teams, because once I
draft them and they're in like the stratosphere, like I never
see them again. You know what I'm saying?
Like I I don't really like I I find it tougher to like learn
from my mistakes in best ball if you know what I mean.
Like all all my worst teams I wasn't looking at them.
Like those were just numbers in my OK results come in those
teams didn't cash whatever. But I'm not diving into like you
know the 125 BBM teams that didn't make it.
You know, and I'm probably and. You need to dive into all of
them to build the sample large enough.
Like one team's not going to teach you a lesson, right?
Like, I think it can teach you a lesson, but you're kind.
You're kind of more like learning like a macro structural
thing, I think. Another.
Huge distinction that like going back to your question stuff I'm
like if it will be optimal will be how the pods are structured
in the size of them. Like I was a big believer in the
three quarterbacks because of the one of sixteen, one of 16 of
like having that second stack to be able to help you finish at
the top of that was like very attractive in knowing that you
could theoretically have a different stack hit in each of
those three playoff uncorrelated tournaments.
But you know say if you were in different tournaments where that
wasn't as big, like I do think that sliding scale will can push
you in in One Direction or another.
I think we're gonna. See more different structures
next year. I don't know.
Yeah, for sure. I've just.
I love. Marshall you're back in the
final but you're still doing the thing you're doing this summer
where your strategy is from last year's championship team.
Marshall goes, yeah, yeah, yeah great.
And we all know you're BBM 3 winning RB RV3QB thesis.
I love it. That's good.
We we all let that slide. You just broke down your team
from last year from last year. I'm sorry.
Well listen I mean you know it's it's a thing we can build on as
we're going if you're and talking going four quarterback
hyper fragile. I'm like, Oh yeah, that's how we
evolve one step forward. Well, there's going to be BBM.
Five guys don't. Forget there's going to be BBM
Five, there is. As long as you're careful about.
Your running back, I still think that's where you draft capital.
You really want to be the most careful about spending too much
on ma'am. How are they?
Running so much. Just throw to Breece.
Good God, Breece is getting like.
I mean, he's moving chains. He He is the team.
But we want. Fast attempts and completions.
Cindy, we've got a couple of short.
Completions. Here on this drive we need some.
Wholesome. Too down 3 scores and.
This drive has taken like a lot of steam forever.
Dude, they want to get up at but.
If you get, but if you. Get enough rush attempts, you
will win. It is Look at the see the total
yards for brace and wrestle Olympics.
Jeez. I love this.
Will you check our? Our original sweat is where
where are we at with Garrett on the five leg?
And I know we're Simeon. We need what, 31 attempts?
So we're kinda. Yeah, I'll pull it up.
Yeah, he's at 21, right? Yeah, he's moving.
The other oh, we still need the other in Joku catch as well, OK,
yeah. And then?
And then we need Garrett Wilson. 1515 more yards.
Garrett hasn't done anything. In a while we we need Garrett to
get going for sure. Yeah, better scores aren't.
Updating brutal bleeding of the. Clock right now.
No sense of urgency. There's no passion in this.
Football club they're trying to lose.
Slowly. I guess they don't.
I guess they want their draft picks.
I think they just want to hop on this.
Plane and get up out of here like I'm Sol is trying not to
give. Up 50 in this game, he's like,
look, if I take a really long time to score then I then I'll
lose by 1034 to 24. It'll be great.
He's actually the worst. I want him gone.
I I can't send him on the sideline too.
Like just this, like blank stare, like he just gives me
nothing, man. I don't think he's even that
good of a motivator. Like, I think Dan Campbell and
stuff. Like they have substance.
Like when you watch like I'm. Talking like.
Karine, I know you were saying you watched Hard Knocks, but
it's like, I didn't find like the oh, like, you know, you got
like the Hawks and the Eagles like circling around or
whatever. It's like, shut up, man.
Like there we go, come on, there we.
Go little more. Little more.
Brownlee over there. The office still got a Brownlee.
Now. Yeah, like hey.
That's frustrating. In season Hard Knocks.
For the Colts a couple years ago, Frank Reich had this whole
metaphor of like, we're climbing up like the mountain and like
this is like where we are at the base camp, blah, blah, blah.
I was like, this is just fucking tired, man.
Like, what are we talking about? But I was like, but, but like, I
think he's a good coach. So like, maybe this works.
And then like, he's like everything has been horribly
downhill since then, so, but at least he's an.
Offensive play caller like solid that that's his.
That's supposed to be what he does, galvanized.
The. The locker room.
Come. On.
And the only good thing, guys. It's a pass attempt that stops
the clock. No, I heard Dan.
What? Part of Dan Campbell's speech
about, you know, that Detroit's last win, and I mean, I was
ready to go run through a wall like she gets you.
Going like. Breaking kneecaps you.
Know. Let's see.
Let's do it. Dan Campbell.
Dan Campbell, because. I, I wrote the Lions like team
preview that year and I was like, I thought Dan Campbell was
like a joke, you know, he had the whole bite kneecap thing,
but you had to like dig into him a little bit more.
And I was like, so he he talked a lot entering the job about,
oh, come on. About how important it was.
To like, listen to your players and like, give them input.
Yeah, Campbell. Campbell, definitely.
He's the guy, if you're going to have one, they're putting on the
offensive. You how do you?
You gotta be fucking. Kidding me.
Lost territory. Oh.
My God. Territory.
This could be a 20. 5 yard. Punt.
It's. 4 and 10 in the fuck this is illegal.
This is illegal This. Is bad.
They're stealing my money. They're down. 17.
This game's not. Over.
Kick a long field goal even Like honestly, they could kick a A50
yard. Like it would be more like a 60
yard right here, but he's never seen a.
Strong go for it in his. I I mean the.
Cowboy has kept 360 Yarders. What?
Oh my. God, what is?
Happening. Now the.
GameStop go for Is Stefanski calling the time out?
I truly got nothing. Like it just it just makes me
feel bad. Like you guys want The Jets
offense to go out there and still do their thing, and I
think the refs are. Like Go but.
We don't even need confidence. We just need attempts.
Yeah, what are they checking? Whether that was a sack 'cause.
I want the sack. He was down short of the line of
scrimmage. I want the sack.
For that, I think it's a play block thing.
The Browns had to call a timeout.
To get their special teams out there on the field 'cause they
just assumed they would be going for it.
I mean Stefanski's like. Hurry the fuck up.
We don't want him to rethink this.
Oh, they're not. Rethinking it.
Saul. 'S going to the grave with this
punt. Oh Jesus.
How? I don't think I bought enough
wine. For this.
And I've already owned this, drank a.
Bottle So. I get some of my.
Jersey Scumbags. To just welcome him in from the
airport. Sala people, I I'm telling you
guys, the Jersey scumbags, it's getting like I've been loud
tonight about Sala out of here. It is loud.
It is loud in Jersey for Sala to get the hell out I am.
Now leading. This charge after tonight.
But the problem is like it's. I I honestly think you guys have
to keep Sala because unless you're moving on from Aaron
Rodgers, Nathaniel Hackett will still be your OC.
So what is that? Who's a head, who's a head coach
that's going to come in and let Nathaniel Hackett be his OC?
Like it's no one good you have to keep.
Sala. Like, he's better than what
you're going to get in 2024. If if it doesn't work out in
2024 or works out OK. If you don't win the Super Bowl,
you can clean house then and you'll get a much better head
coach. Yeah, I didn't know that's.
Fair. The The issue really is the the
Hackett aspect of it. It would have to be like Rodgers
would have to be OK with Hackett going.
It seems like that's just not He won't what it?
Is, which sucks. Yeah, whole thing sucks, man.
It's so bad. You having fun tonight, Ron?
Nice being on the show. The great part is, is that in
like. Seven months.
When we trade for Devante Adams and we draft Joe Alt and you,
you're like Ron, how do you feel about the jet season?
I'm like, I'm fired up and then something else freaking goes
wrong. Is this the basketball player
guy? Yeah.
Joe Alt. Out of Notre Dame, I would love
to have him on my team. What are they going to fix the?
Field. That's what they need to do.
They really need to fix that field.
Yeah. That's something I've been
outspoken about. Greedy ass.
We got 2 owners, we got 2 owners.
We should have so much money and they just are like, Nah, we'll
just go turf, but. When the when the World Cup.
Comes down here. People are fired up about that.
Then when the World Cup comes to MetLife, that's when they're
going to switch to to grass. I think that that's going to be
for good. But I could be wrong.
That might be a temporary thing. When's the World Cup?
20. Six, OK.
I could be off. I don't know.
You know it's bad when Reeves. Is tweeting about it.
Robert Sala has been completely unserious for some time, but
what is that punt? This season has broken this.
Man. That wasn't all time.
The season has broken me. That was.
Really, really bad. The longest.
Playoff drought across all sports.
It's just like the Pistons. The Pistons have been to the
playoffs before us. So brutal and they are like the.
Worst right now. Like the worst team to ever
live. It's like it's so.
Bad think about. Everyone who's caught.
Strays. Tonight, the city of Newark
based himself. Butter.
The only protagonists in this are the scumbags from Jersey I
I'm starting to think these jet. Scumbags are going to, you know,
organize their own March on the Capitol.
But it's going to be the March, yeah.
I. I was gonna say something about
it earlier, but I remember I I can't.
One of my defining moments of The Jets man is being in the
stadium as a young boy and there were like the entire stadium
chanting for Greg McElroy. Greg McElroy, the dude from
Alabama, he sucks he ended up being he's like a Co host guy
now. But on on TV as well, yeah.
Was in unison. Of I don't even know who was out
there. It was like somewhere between
the the Geno Smith Mark Sanchez era like the entire stadium like
we had him. We had Bryce Petty.
Like it's it's just been such a shit show, man, for the long and
Joku, come on. Buddy, how many people are
covering? The Joku A lot of.
Like. I mean because the.
Entire defense. Is over, there are.
You way behind. Oh.
No, I saw. I saw in the.
Joku already. Or you might be behind side of.
Tillman, me. I just saw the play.
Afternoon, Joku. People ask me.
I'm seeing. Tillman looking.
Behind my oh, I thought. That were, I thought they were
both from Joku. But you know, I always tend to.
Push something on my phone and end up behind somehow once I'm
on the we need to get. We need to stop here, 2
incompletions. We need to stop here and get a
punt. Come on.
No, I'm alive for once. Well.
Let's get the new joke. Oh, we overthrow.
The flag there? What's the?
Flag. That's going to be.
Whole thing. He went like this in the
secondary. Shit.
That's bad. We need this semi in the.
Temps Man, that's bad. How?
Far. Are we away listening?
Eight scared. 9. You need a couple more.
Drives passing. Oh, it's on Wayne Corbett.
How's that A how's? That a hold, That's a push off.
Wayne Corbett was. Before Ron's time, come on, man,
Wayne Corbett was this white receiver that didn't wear gloves
and people loved it. I mean, it was like the gym rat
thing you've ever seen. Yeah, build up the calluses.
He did these like, super. High dives for passes, He'd be
like halfway, like in the air and catch passes, I mean.
You. It it's.
In. In terms of like the scrappies,
you know and and gym rat and all that stuff that the wide
receivers always get like he kind of he he kind of embodied
it like he's part of it exists. He paved.
The way. How was Testaverde I?
I never got to see Testaverde. I know that he also tore his
Achilles like in the first game way Testaverde was like.
Joe Flacco, man. Yeah, yeah, he was very big
armed. Like, yeah, he was stationary,
big armed, super stationary. Like times like Flacco's mobile
compared to Testaverde for. Real.
All right, Steph, give us. The the roundup of the the high
stakes sweats this week. What?
What are the things we're we're looking out for here?
What for this? Game or for everything just in
general? Like what kind?
Of positioning. Do we need who are we most
invested in? I mean.
We have, let's see, our prime times.
You know, excuse. Me Well, our two prime time
teams are like back to we're back-to-back.
They were both like in the 90s when we started.
We got up to today in waiver chasing.
We're like 64th last time I looked.
'Cause we have, we have. We both, both teams have Bruce
and then waiver chasing has Bruce and Garrett Wilson.
We got a lot of 49ers on all over our teams.
Yep. So that'll be big.
We got some Gino, we got some Stafford on most of them.
I think of like a lot of the big crossover players you already
talked. The shark jumping team is in
first the. Gap did.
Close quite a bit, but I mean based on who's we got going like
you kind of ran that down. I mean, I I feel pretty good
about it, you know, as. A 49ers heavy?
Team going against Washington. And stuff and then.
Our waiver chasing team, you know we have Kelsey, who has not
done good, but they're playing the Bengals who is like one of
the best matchups for Titans. So if there's.
Ever. A week.
I want to believe that he could bring it home for us and like
have one of like his one performance of the year, yeah.
And they are. I mean, they are depleted in
their running back room. I saw Ch didn't practice every
day. Yeah.
So they had.
And and. I think, was Watson also
questionable or something? Somebody else was.
I kind of glanced. I was at work most of the day,
so I went online. Online.
But I know I saw somebody. Another pass catcher?
Yeah. So.
Yeah. They're going to have to.
Throw it to somebody? Yep.
Little more Gibson. Was that a pass or a run?
Oh, we took the watching and the passing.
Yeah, we took the passing. Yeah.
Did we just go over on the halftime line?
We. Caught a pass a little bit.
Ago and then that one. I think we needed about 50.
I don't know if it's refreshed. But I see 35 right now then.
Our. Main.
Where we were or. What we need, I'm saying he's.
At 30 or Sorry, he's up to 43. Yeah, he just cleared it.
He just cleared. Nice.
I'll. Pull it up.
What else do we have on there? So we need.
The completions for Trevor, which we need.
Yeah. And then we need the Najoku.
I mean, with what is a dot has been tonight, we just need one
more. Yeah, us to him.
And then we need the Riley Patterson field goal TD combo,
The the. Patterson plan is not working
out the way that I envision, I mean.
So you want to? Hear the mains?
Yeah, let's hear it. Yeah.
So. The heartbreak of the world, you
know our chasing Go Bills finally got is going to have
Stroud this week. Yep.
But. Now they lost Waddle.
Yep. Who do we got?
Who? Who's?
Going to step in for us there. Who are we going to be starting?
Yeah. It's that bad.
Oh. Good.
I guess I'm. Gonna have to look at.
It oh, 'cause we have we. Have Pete and Allen on this.
Team We have Keith Mitchell on this team.
The. Yeah, it's like.
It's like Logan. Thomas is where.
We're at what is. Tita.
Premium I. Know.
But so you have Cooper, you. Have Cooper, Keith, quadruple.
And almond raw. And so jalen height can catch
long passes. That's.
True. Chase Brown.
There you go.
Look, 'cause you got, you got Chase, Mother, you could.
Go you could. Go Chase.
Over Logan. Potentially, I mean, Logan.
Outscored Kelsey last week 'cause we have him as our second
receiver on the other team, so you may not want to do accepted
San Francisco, so probably Luke you have to throw a bunch.
On San Francisco, Logan's probably the right call.
Just, just bet on the receptions, yeah.
We'll. We'll have to look a little
closer at the numbers on that one and then you got your ship
chasing team. Which?
You got the 49ers and you got A, you know, A.J.
Brown and DD and DK. So that team's still pretty
strong. It did fall back a little.
Bit just because you know the 49ers didn't do a whole lot last
week to the Austin Brown. Game.
Played Metcalf, which was smart. Because you played Iuke, who did
way better than Diva. Yeah, we we we played.
That you you actually got. That I think we're probably
back. To both 49ers in this matchup,
don't you think? I think so.
Insanely good. I mean unless.
You think they quit? Part would do.
Would be the only. Discussion on leverage, yeah.
But I mean a lot of people. Lost.
I mean there's. A lot of players.
Out so. The Warren lever that.
You mentioned last week, Pete, I think makes sense this week as
well. We could do a mini.
A couple different. Things right you may have to
cause. Most are.
It's questionable. Again, I'm not sure if it's the
same thing. Yeah, I like the.
Warren. Call.
I think. Warren.
I mean, Naji missed practice and then he was limited today.
I think it's they're just like managing his knee thing he's
had. So I don't think that really
matters. But yeah, I was.
Surprised that he was limited. I.
Haven't looked. At.
The the split. This last week between Naji and
Warren, but I know Warren was like their number one receiver
the week before, so I mean he is getting.
I feel like he's due. Eventually, you know, yeah.
'Cause he hasn't had that game. He's been close and Warren's
been pretty low owned in everything.
That I've looked at numbers. I mean, whether it's, you know,
the BBM, yeah, I can't imagine anyone in.
Contention is playing Warren Well, I have.
Warren also I think. That's an argument for we're
we're about you guys at the. Moment.
Now we're we're about, we're about 100, 100th PL. right now.
close to that, yeah. We keep going between about.
Like one O 8116. We have no joke.
You're going right now, so that's bumping us around and
this is your team. Here with Sean Rightcatch.
That's the team with Sean. If we would have played the
correct kicker last week, we sat Sanders for.
Harrison Butker cost? Us 21 points 21.8 we would be in
3rd place or 4th place right now.
I I feel you're the. Kicker Gretch, we also sat
Sanders for quote. I'll quote, Gee, Max leverage.
Except luckily, luckily, we had our kicker.
That's a passing step. Didn't.
Do I mean he still got? Like 14 points, so it could have
been worse. But yeah, watching Sanders just
kick field goal after field goal after field goal was.
Not fun, no all. Right.
So the we're still looking at the.
Silver. Bullet.
The silver bullet was like an. 18th place, I think.
Something like that. Last time I checked. 17th, so
yeah. So that team's doing pretty
good. And like I said, both of we
haven't. I mean, we could, you know,
we've been climbing. I mean, we climbed up a lot in
waiver chasing. We started at like 200 and we're
in like 60 something, I thought. That was a.
Bit any chance you are Ron? Ahead of you and Leonie.
Wow. This is a Davis team too.
Wow, we're all bunched up here, Yeah.
So it's 4th down from the. 39 What happens here, Ron?
Dude, but. I I share probably a punt.
We. Should really go for this.
I shared it. Really, really.
Go for. This.
It's 4th and 6th They are, yes. OK, all right.
Offense. So let's go.
We're up to 20. Six we.
Finally went for on 1/4 and sixth, yeah.
Here we go I. Only took until the 4th.
Quarter right when the when the time clock switches Oh my God
fall starts. Delay of game?
You gotta be kidding me. Oh my God.
Oh my God, they are putting. Me.
They are 4th and 11:00. This is Robert Solow was
dreaming. He actually wanted.
How is he employed? I understand.
Make it, dude. I was going to say Make Hackett.
They made the decision. To go so late, they got the play
call in late, they got a delay of game and now they have to
punt. They don't have the punt.
It's 4th and 11 from the 45 yard line.
They still did. Sol's got to go.
They got to get rid of solve. This is garbage, I mean.
I I new? Information came in.
He's. Going to get booed I also.
Watched the game. Yeah, I'm really happy.
With Jets games I've seen this year, it's so.
Bad Sal's got. To go and then he's just going
to have that dumb. Blank stare with his dyed beard.
And we're going to come from commercials and be like the
headset on. It's just like.
He's not. He's not.
Welcome in in the, the final establishments of jersey.
He's not welcome. I I guarantee it.
Oh, he wants to get a nice, a nice Like.
He wants a Tommy DeVito experience.
No. No one's asking him to come to
their mom and Pop's Italian cuisine.
Yeah. What is that like?
Again for Jets giants seeing Tommy Cutlets become a national
story. It's tough I I.
Think to be honest with you like we're all kind of we're all kind
of rooting him on Tommy. He's as somebody like it.
I've. I've tweeted about this before
as just like a sicko jersey guy. He went to Don Bosco which is
like dude if if you're a white quarterback for Don Bosco like
winning your state championship at MetLife is probably your
peak. Like that's probably it.
Like you do that. Then you tell your kids and the
the girls at the bar that you were that guy you won at MetLife
in high school and you go on about your business, but you
know, three star works his way up, gets drafted.
So honestly, him bawling out at MetLife.
I think most people from Jersey were happy to see it.
But it it was a funny thing of just like deferring expectations
of like they're in like the similar shitty spot as us, but
like they're having fun while doing it while like I am in
excruciating pain in every game watching Sala.
Just like be an idiot the entire time.
What if imagine? If Tommy DeVito was on The Jets
roster and he's the one that got this crack and dragged them into
the playoffs, the cutlets, the New Jersey hero, I mean, it
would be perfect. I've become the biggest.
Italian scumbag of all time. And there's a lot of those in
Jersey, too, man. There's a lot of those.
A lot of, you know. Kind of like the.
Vetoes and. Guys, last name DeVito.
Just getting a lot of DeVito. Strays man the.
Julios and Gen. Carelli's and what are your
scumbag? Jets friends think of Tommy
DeVito. Are they torn?
Are they as open minded as you or they?
Yeah, I. Think now.
The issue now is that he has overstayed his welcome and now
everyone hates him like everyone.
Just like just shut up. They hate the veto now.
No people have turned. It's but it's like the same, the
Taylor Swift stuff of like every game you're seeing his in like
the weirdo weirdo agent with like the, you know, the fedora
and everything. I like the agent agent.
Is. Unscuddling to me.
Watch Got Goodfellow. Cracks me up times growing.
Up he's that. Guy that was just.
Watching that shit like and he talks strictly.
From the bottom of his mouth in like his interview, but he looks
like a. Mafia guy like.
How? How does he do that?
Is there something like this? Is that I literally.
I haven't seen him talk. I I've seen like his.
He does and like the whole. He did like a whole media tour.
It's all. It's all he.
I'm telling you, watch an interview with with Stellato and
he literally talks out of the bottom of his mouth, it sounds
like. These.
Jets group chats are lit, man. They just sound.
Like this is what this? Is what you foster from 12 years
of just despair and you're strong you're.
Strong. Quarterback.
Play. Cannon.
That's right, we don't. Need I don't need.
No Pier strong. I need Ford the thesis of the.
Play Pete Pier Strong back in He was on that team of ours,
Gretch. Week 17.
Pier Strong 15 yard runs. See I.
Can't. Do.
That like I do not. Want to go back?
And look at my teams and wonder, what if?
Are they showing? Oh.
I just have them. Memorized.
I stared at it for a long time over the weekend.
If I think about. It, but I like tried to pushing
it out of my mind. Well, that's the healthy.
Thing to do, yeah. We we need the.
Najoku catch We just have to get that to unlock everything else,
but we're going to have like a couple third down cracks at it.
Oh, oh. Pierre Chung's knee.
Is not Wait, what happened? Oh, I'm not.
I'm not a lot better into the end zone.
I didn't. Think I touched my.
Phone. I think his.
Knee gets caught in the turf. Oh, that's a fumble.
Uh oh. Oh, that.
He must be touched down. That's definitely a fault.
No the. Knee, I don't want you to.
No, it's. Not the knee.
The foot gets caught the right. Knee right there, but the foot.
Hot. And then the knee goes over his
toe. Sorry, you got a second
kinesiology major here. So let's go ahead and analyze
for those gym teachers and our future.
What is that? Is that like a?
High ankle or it could be. Turf toe, it could be depending
on, I mean you know, usually when it kind of sticks in there
like that when you get the arch, that's.
What you're looking at? Yeah.
This guy said, I kind. Of wish I was a Jets fan now or
or mid. Or mid foot sometimes This is
why you. Put in.
Plus territory you are are playing for the turnover and
then the opportunity to cut to two scores with 10 minutes left.
I mean what I mean this turf. All right, I'm, I'm so off.
I I hate their turf. I mean, you just watch this
where people get their feet stuck over and over and over.
Dude, y'all buzz in right now. Pat just texted me.
Super psyched. Nice.
I'm pretty pumped for these guys.
To to putt from plus territory a third PAT, are you guys?
Cuz no, you're going to get the lay.
Of game first I would. Like some breeze I.
Think some breeze. Would be more.
Fun. That would be a lot.
Yeah. I mean.
I. Mean.
Can you just, like, toss it to me?
You. Know there Breeze Breeze was.
That tipped at the. Line We'll take a Garrett.
Catch Are we all for Garrett's number?
That's his first catch. We last checked.
We're very close. He might have just cleared on.
That, yeah, I'm. Like, that's our first catch in
a while. OK, so I.
Mean This is Simeon and Ajoku Simeon and.
Ajoku let's go for 1500. Big ones.
Pass attempt. Incomplete.
That's good. Let's keep the pass attempt
rolling. 32 We're up to. 28. So does he have he?
So he doesn't need to, just attempts, no, just attempts
that. Was part of the the.
Second-half was was passing. I didn't get the so we're.
Good. No kidding 5.
More completions on the halftime one, but this first five leg
from before you gotta. Get the.
First here, let's. Go.
Oh, no, they they gotta go for this.
Oh, man, we gotta get the first. Never.
Say they gotta do anything
because Roberts Hall will say hold my fucking beer.
Get there. OK, now it's 4th in.
One you didn't get there, they're they're not kicking a
field going fourth in one. Watch me.
Oh shit. I.
Mean. Sorry, don't.
I have. No one has kids watching.
I have a bad mouth when I watch Sports inches.
Here we go. He didn't get it.
He didn't go they. Tried to snap it before.
The guy got off the field because I got off the field and
they also didn't. Get it?
That's all it's. Got to go, man.
Honestly. He.
Has to go. I've seen the guy, seen it off.
I've seen 3. Years.
I've got to go. Come on.
Oh man, the. Jets fucking suck, is the theme
of the night from from the chat over here.
That's great. They literally.
Do if nothing else.
That was amazing. No tush push for my guy.
Trevor, just, I'm just going to say they.
Need to learn? Somebody needs a squat.
More. This is actually a good time to.
Really quick can we actually huddled last night to to figure
out our schedule a little bit So I'll share some of that why it's
off the the top of my head. So we're are going to.
Have a show next. Thursday.
Obviously there's no Thursday Night Football.
We're going to do some kind of winner's circle type show.
We already know that some people in this community are going to
win tournaments, have some takedowns.
The NFL fantasy writers gave us the script.
We saw that. So we're going to book that for
next Thursday and the following week.
After that we are going to be jam packed with playoff
coverage. Either Monday or Tuesday, we'll
do the The Boomer Opto show with our friends Hassan and Blair.
On Wednesday, Pat Gretch and I will do an ownership projection
reveal show for the FFPC contest.
On Thursday, we're doing a stat chasing crossover show with
Draco. Sacrilegious.
We're gonna actually cover all of the playoff tournaments,
underdog FFPC and FFC. And then Friday we'll have our
quintessential wait drunk Leone Dink build.
What's that? They had 12 men on the.
Field guys, OK, no. Way first.
Down the Hell yeah. Love it.
Hell yeah. That's.
That's New York.
Jets football, right. Solace.
I was thinking he he, he knew. He knew, he loved.
It at all he won't kill. He's.
Incredible. I.
Simeon. Snapped.
It quickly 'cause he was. Hoping the guy that was subbing
out didn't get off the field in time, He didn't get off.
They just showed it. They only had 11 counted.
I think they must have reviewed that and said he wasn't quite
off the field on the sideline there.
I don't. Want to give a solid too much
credit? I think that's just a savvy,
veteran play from Trevor Simeon. Trevor Simeon.
You're elite. No.
I think Aaron Rodgers was in his ear.
Let's. Go.
There it is, It's. It's.
This is the jet season in a nutshell.
I got a sentence for you. Trevor Sivian's the best
quarterback, but they feel you. You're. 3.
Past attempts away from hitting that this is going to all come
down to David Najoku, who we thought would have been the
easiest. We should have kicked him the
what hasn't been. The joke of.
This, like, after that first quarter, like he's been quiet.
Wow. Well, they've.
Grown to him. A couple times and he's he's
triple covered. Yeah, someone.
Batted a leg, yeah. So you'd think it'd.
Be good that Moore went out, but I think that they're just sort
of allocating everything at him and just being like you guys
have Cedric Tillman as your wider ever won right now.
I mean, Cedric Tillman was a. Promising rookie.
I took quite a few shares in best fall, but not a number one
if only The Jets. Had turned to Trevor Simeon a
little earlier. Wrong.
So is David Bell the? #2 now I'm trying to get.
I'm trying to get some. Time with Trevor Simeon reaction
here. Yeah, this is nuts.
Yeah, it it's less than a joko. Just this entire offense. 7 pass
yards, this half. It's crazy.
That's that wraps all the defense.
Baby 43. Just wait till they get that.
Hooper in from Notre Dame. Oh yeah.
This is this. Has got to be a screen pass to
Breeze. 2nd and 12 set up third and manageable.
Oh, they didn't. Even have Mon.
Is that a bandicander? Oh no, that's breeze.
He just want a false start. Right, hold on I.
Can't see the numbers? On my phone too far.
From it God damn, how many times are they going to do?
This all. Right.
Well, now they. Definitely need to run the
screen on 2nd and 17. Come on.
If dumb penalties. Don't fall on the head coach.
Then who the hell did they fall on, man?
Wait, are we? Are we?
We're two pass temps away. Right now.
From time, we're. Two away, yeah.
From. Time I I feel.
Pretty good. About the passing.
Attempts, Yeah, we're going to get there on.
Second and third here. Well, at least a porch, no.
Count. That's right, they're still 10
minutes. You got you got to feel Yeah.
OK. Let's not, yeah.
I'm like, they're going to get the ball back, let's.
You got to get that in Joku. Catch.
There you go. There we go.
I mean run a screen. Don't just kind of get that toe
out a little quicker, man, yeah. At this rate, the.
Browns might not get the ball back, says the Jet and.
That's that's great. The Jets are doing.
Such a good job of killing the clock.
Still. Perfect.
Oh, that's by a. 1000 cuts. Baby.
No, the game felt. Faster, earlier on, it slowed
down this momentum. Oh, take care.
No, I just. Don't stop blowing a.
Ball. Jesus.
That's why you don't. That's why you don't say that,
buddy. That's that's what you.
Call mush right there. They're going to trot.
Out Greg Reese ran the wrong route.
Oh, they're definitely kicking route, but break the leg sucks.
I. I We had an for a while in
Dallas, we potentially cut. This lead to 14.
Here I mean. And really what you want.
To do is run the play clock down to two seconds again and make a
block that was. Almost blocked, he overran.
The block. Did he had it?
Did he? Pass.
By the kicker, I thought he had that blocked that go through
his. Arms.
Those shots. Of Flacco, you'd think they were
down to scores and not up two scores.
Yeah. So I think is that.
Like happened. Did he die?
Like. All.
Right, I want to say I've had a. Blast.
But I got a little bit of a heart out here.
All right, Ron. Nice.
Man, it's been a. Blast.
Yeah, I'm going to go suffer. This last island Islands you got
some scumbags to meet up with. Dude, I I.
Have some demons exercise in a dark bathroom.
Wait, you got to? Take a dump, all right, It's
just just me. In the mirror and just.
I'll just really reflect on what.
This last 12 years has been here.
Are you looking for a new team? Yet.
I'm going to go on a vision quest.
Maybe find one. All right.
I'll see you guys, Ron. Ron Stewart.
Check him out on YouTube, Ron Stewart on.
YouTube, All that good stuff. All right.
We appreciate. You we'll.
We'll sync up in the offseason again for some more shows, of
course. All.
Right Peace, man. Poor Rod Stewart.
It really. Did seem like Ron was a truly
broken man there by the edge it did.
It was. It was.
A tough time, yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I kind of felt this pain.
And I'm not a Jets fan. I did too.
Man. All right.
Dave and Najoku, the time is now.
I go grab a drink. Wow.
I'm going to refill. My wine?
Jeez. But I'm not going to turn.
Off anything this time I got. A tower of empty modelos already
over here. Wow.
Are you Are you ringing the? Are you ringing the bell if we
hit this five legger? Oh, wow.
That's a bit. That's an important question.
I don't know. All right, light the candles.
Folks, David and Joku. I think I'm going to do.
A sober January he. Says while stacking.
Modello kids on December 28th. I'm making that.
Well, no, I so it's not January. It's not until the Huskies are
are out. If, if they win and they make
the the national championship, I'll be at the national
championship. I'll miss the first show on the
FFPC week, likely as a result. But and.
I'm not saying sober. For any of that, but when I get
back, that's when. That's when the the subway.
Well, you're doing sober. January after I go watch my team
play, Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to.
I'm going to be in New Orleans. On January 1st for my team in
the semifinals. I'm not saying sober on January
1st. That's not a thing.
You just got to be careful out there.
I mean cooter doodle shared some pretty.
Pretty scary. Literature last week, That's
right. Fly out tomorrow to Atlanta
driving down with my buddy from Atlanta.
Going to be ripping underdog playoff contest on Saturday in
the car 6 1/2 hour drive. Anybody wanna come do some?
Who's driving your buddy? My buddy's.
Driving. Yeah, this fiance.
Me and. Another buddy are all gonna be
carpooling. I'll be in the back seat using
Pat's tool trying to figure out how I can how I can use the
Ledger upside tool. I might like try to hot spot it
on a laptop so I can it is it works.
Much. Better from a.
Laptop. There was some issues with
Safari that I would that we figured out, so there's a little
note on the tool if you're having issues on, but it's
working. Pete, can you block?
This Will character here who thinks that Washington season
will be over on Tuesday. I don't know who he is, but he
just doesn't seem very nice. I'll put him in a timeout to.
Start. All right, he's in a timeout.
Sorry, Will. This is a pro Washington.
Yeah, with the guys program. We're wearing a Huskies T-shirt.
He's going now to see the game. We got a Texas fan.
We're looking for Will. Texas fan.
See. Ya buddy dude, so we.
Had this thing, we had a buddy go to the PAC 12 championship
and there was, I don't know what happened in our chat, but
somebody was like let somebody try to get ChatGPT to come up
with some trash talk. And so they asked ChatGPT dude
Yoku there. It is.
I was terrified. It was.
Going to be Jordan. Akins and I was going to be
celebrating and it wasn't going to be him.
And they're punning. And they're punning, I was going
to say. Well, Oh yeah, it's good for us.
That's huge. That's huge.
They're only the 14. Simmons coming out passing 1
passing attempt. But look.
I have nujoku in my main so I. Wanted him to get a touchdown.
That's all right. That's about 1:00 and. 1/2.
Pointer. That's that's OK.
Yeah. Tied in premium.
Famously. That was human asking.
About the the. Tool for BBM five.
What would you got? Like this is obviously I.
Mean. What about this?
Do you like that? If we were tried to do something
for BBM 5, like what would? How about this Pat?
How? About you just draft all of our
sets of 150 for each of us who's a sub that would be.
The best service. I feel.
Like I will. Be involved in this somehow and.
Pat would give me the. Brunt work no.
I'm disappointed we didn't all. Have a team in that would have
been so fun we got. Very close, right?
I mean, I think the tool. Is just so user friend.
Like I am not good at technology and it's just simple and it it's
just and it makes a lot of sense like it's just.
I appreciate that. Steph Yeah, it's.
That's what we're going for simplicity and.
But. It does what it but it does.
What it needs to do? Like it?
Right, Right. It it works, delivering on its
core function. And then you can you take it
from there? A lot of, yeah.
Because I won't. Put them in right now.
How do you get? Your hands on Pat's tool.
It honestly only cost $10. That's true.
It's only $10. Perm.
Vice. Grip a month?
A month. Next month, I'll want another
$10 You can be in the. Back of a car on a road trip to
New Orleans. Just have a nice grip on.
Pat's tool. Yeah.
You know what I would say? If you're if you really want a
great grip on the tool, maybe try to get a hot spot.
You want a hot spot in the back of that car.
That's that's the way really get a grip on that tool or stay.
Home Brett hit a 4K. Pick em.
Let's go, baby. Let's go.
Yeah, this is a good question. Pat, has your tool considered
just giving out total shippers, man?
Well, that's what we're. Trying to do, you know, that's
sort of what it is in a nutshell.
We are trying to you know what? You guys should.
Do you know how there's like, the Microsoft paper clip?
You should guys, turn that into like a sacrilegious paper clip
and it just like pops up for each pick and it's like, dude,
that. Would be so funny.
It's a little. Sacrilegious.
What's the guy's name? Clippy.
Yeah, Clippy. Oh my God.
Zacky. Are you trying to draft a?
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Get. Get.
Your hands on Pat's tool featuring Sacky, Sacky, Sacky,
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Shit. Speaking of Sakis, what was
that? Was that a say I?
Missed that I actually missed it.
Was it a? Pass.
Oh yeah, it's I I I. Wasn't.
Yeah, I missed it too. One more What was it?
One more for the. Shipper.
We'll take the .5. One more.
For the shipper, the. 4 yard loss point point. 01 and there's
a dog. There's a dog on, man.
We. Might have to get.
Bella in solidarity No .01. Come on.
Let's go ship it. Ship it back.
To the yes. Let's go.
The form's coming out the. We did it.
We did. It we did.
It we did it. Just pick a piss I missed.
It Pat was just refreshing his. Best Ball Mania scores while I'm
trying to celebrate a pick em win for the community, That's
correct. Let's.
Find. It yet it's correct.
I can get. We.
Had to get the. Final week to give the giveaway
'cause there's no carry over the next week, we we had to hit it.
It was. It wasn't hit it.
That's true, man. Boom.
There's no. Carrier We just had to give the
money away. And we did.
Gretch everyone. In the chat gets Taco Bell.
Drop your addresses in the chat. Gretch will be writing these all
down. Also give me your full.
Order. You know, Tweet Gretch your.
Taco Bell order. You're not going to get it, but
please just tweet Gretch your Taco Bell order anyway.
Any. Modifications like any you know,
no sour cream, any food allergies.
I'd love to hear about them. Do we bink into the halftime?
Stuff. No, I was just checking in on
it. I'm ready to get greedy.
We need. We need Najoku.
And Patterson? The Joku and Patterson.
Really turned this into a knight.
Oh my. God left tackle just.
Jumped off false start again. They didn't call it though.
Oh, get there. Wow.
He his knee went down. He's short.
That was fourth down. Oh wait, we need a Joku?
What? That was fourth down.
Why? Is he?
Yeah. You're short, Simeon.
I love this idea. By Franklin, his knee goes down.
There, and he's short of the line.
I I'm going to get a pick em. Gong I just dropped in the chat.
As usual, this is the form for the giveaway if.
You have already filled it. Out.
Please don't fill it out. You're already on it.
I assure you. I'm just going to remove
duplicates if you fill it out twice.
If you haven't filled it out, all you need to do is drop in
your username and your underdog username and I'll.
I'll spin the wheel here before the game is over.
Yeah, DJ Local. Put your address in the form.
That's where I'll get it for all the Taco Bell orders for sure.
20 spins for Breeze. Is a good call. 9.
Catches, boys. Somebody's being.
Agreed 26. Total.
Yards and ATD 9 catches, 126 total yards and ATD 27.6 in PPR.
Breece, I love you. The orders are coming in.
Here on Twitter. I had no idea what to order.
Are you guys really ordering 2 the Torito?
Cheesy cortinas. Quintas with no beef and
potatoes, cheese quesadilla and a shit ton of fire packs.
Oh man, so chicken case. It'd.
Be in two. Toritos Locos tacos.
I think this kicker this. Kicker chasing might be too
tight of a needle to thread here.
Nacho Chalupa. We got chicken case at the end 2
Torito We got Chalupa Supreme. Oh, I like chicken case.
Cinnamon Twist. Oh man, I.
Only got 4 orders so far. Guys 4.
Orders. Yeah, that's embarrassing.
Man, I can't believe we. Took overs and hires in a game
with what? Like a 33 point total?
What were we thinking? I just retweeted.
All four of them my guideline. Is a bunch.
Of people that are like, I usually get way too serious NFL
takes from you, but now you're tweeting Taco Bell orders.
What's happening? Tacos.
I don't know but y'all are making me.
Hungry. I did drink too much wine
tonight, so I I got the the. Drench I just.
I just got. Adm from someone that's like in
my extra DMS and it's a. It's an actual address, and it's
an actual order. It's in.
Illinois. And it's like, it's like a real
fucking order. Like, I'm sorry buddy, I'm not
sending you that order. But he thinks so.
Cool. I like who anyone's not.
Watching the ship cast but is following ship chasing tonight
and it's just retweets all the people.
Screenshotting the pecan entries.
And Taco Bell orders it's like the most disoriented anything.
So they don't know and. This is amazing.
Here come the the orders. Once we said only four orders,
I'm getting. It's getting absurd now.
Oh, Gretch, can I? Retweet this.
Give me a cooked Longhorn bitches.
Oh, hell yeah. All.
Right. Oh, I was telling the.
Story we did the ChatGPT thing and the and the the the shit
talking they did for the the Ducks game was all just like
really PG and and it was like hilarious how lame it was.
But then someone ran it for the Longhorns and it was a bunch of
like PG stuff. Again, no swear words, like none
of it worked. But then at the end, it was like
hook em, more like shook em. And it was like, that is a bar.
I'm saying that in New Orleans. Like, I'm going to yell that
it's a Longhorns fan on Bourbon Street you're going to get.
Punched in the. Face hook them more.
Like sugar like look I. Live here in Texas.
They're crazy. They will, like, fight you.
All right? That sounds.
Great. I'm rolling 16 deep.
We'll fight back. We also live in in Washington in
a state and we fight too. So Tommy's in the chat saying
he's the one who sent you his address and was like, you're.
About to leak. His address on this?
Thought the address was. About to get leaked.
He's a crutch no. Crutch.
No. Yeah, we're we're not.
Going to you guys down with the new.
Profile pic for the account, Yeah yeah.
And Bella's being you. Got to get that at that.
Those sweet Taco Bell dollars though 1st.
Definitely. Or was Oh.
The I I just realized the old one.
I've seen that picture so many times, but I haven't thought
about it. It's it was the Ford punt.
It was the. It's the.
Canadian. Punt.
Amazing. Amazing dude.
I do. I was hoping you landed this
plane with a butter tart joke. Thank God for not discipline me,
Jacob 2 Crutch Wrap Supremes a large Diet Coke in one butter
tart. Oh, this is a.
Disaster. My mentions are so bad, you guys
gotta you guys gotta hit up ship chasing Pete Will retweet those.
I'm not retweeting anymore Taco Bell orders, man.
I'm getting up in the DM. Or Arthur Smith.
Engagement farming or Taco Bell orders.
I think Taco Bell. Orders.
Well, we're getting a field. Goal from Patterson.
A late Peck, 6. Or something.
Then are we there? I said it would be a tough.
Needle to thread. What do we need here, Patterson?
We need to oh, we. Didn't get in.
Joku on the yards. Yeah.
Oh, bris, is that the original? 5 legger Or is that the halftime
one? These are the.
Halftime the. Originals have both hit OK I'm.
Good. I got the three pick half time
one. That's the only half time one I
ended up getting, yeah. It's the.
Yeah, the Patterson to joke who is what's?
The little night here for us, yeah.
We we had been hitting, We'd hit the core at a decent clip, but
it had been a while since we got that five layer under our belt.
5 layers are nice. Wow.
Except. Except they started.
Limiting us, will you guys next? Time Make sure you use our
affiliate link when you make your Taco Bell orders.
Just kind of helps out the show. Promo code Pete.
It's. Worth a shot.
Bella is a being a. Little bitch.
She something is up. She won't even like usually she
goes to her dog bed and. Will let me pick her up and she
won't even go in the bedroom. She's looking at me like, Nope,
we're talking. About a different Chihuahua, you
know, I think I. Think that's probably you are no
one. Here is going to cancel you.
If you want to call your own dog a bitch.
I'll. I'll just.
She is. It's AI mean it's a female.
Dog. I mean, that's what they are.
I'm just being. Technical.
It's true. We deserve it.
What? What a hit man.
We gotta like, what are we even rooting for?
We have nothing to root in. I think we can start.
Rooting for our our team. What we.
Really need is some.
Miracle where David the Browns get the ball back pass to David
Najoku and he scores a touchdown and they hit connection point.
Listen if if. David Najoku scores a touchdown.
I really will order Taco Bell. Nice.
You heard it here. Oh.
That's Reese in there. Please.
Yeah man, we need some breeze catches.
He's only got 9. When I was listing off some of
the plans I kept mentioning, You guys heard me say the last
regular season ship cast. We did get in the lab and we are
going to do two playoff editions of the ship cast.
We are eyeing the Monday night game of Wild Card weekend as
one, and we are eyeing the second game on Sunday night of
Conference Championship weekend as two ship casts that we're
going to fire up for all of your dude, who is this left?
Tackle. So that's like the. 15th and the
28th for anyone who is trying to start, Yep.
Makai Becton. Is cheating.
Every time he goes. Early and they call it most of
the time, but sometimes they just let it go.
It's like, all right. Well, I mean, if you're trying
to block Miles Garrett, you might as well do it every time
and see if they. Call it and not not blocking.
Miles Garrett sounds bad. I Do you know what this game?
Needs for the lols. It needs one more Robert Sola
punt. You know, like 1:30 left in the
game. Down 17.
At the 40 yard line, it really, really I.
I. Would take around pick. 6.
Not that that would help our God.
Yes, Izzy, out of. There.
Dude. What hang on?
Pat, he's on my big. Board team dude don't say bad.
Things about. Izzy.
At this point, if Izzy's hitting my lineup, I did tell Izzy.
Aggressively in in in the March time frame so this could be I
was like Izzy an awful. Lot I just looked to see if.
He he had a reason to hit your line up.
He has two targets and no catches.
I think they're both drops, 2 carries for three yards and a
fumble lost on that kick return. He's got negative points, so if
he's in your lineup it's really. Bad.
It's almost like me having. Alan Lazard, who's not even
active, hit my lineup. Who's on my team?
Dead players. That are on IR.
Are scoring more than is it right now.
A lot of people in the chat. Sweating a little more around?
That's good at Garrett reception.
I. I we need.
Some Garrett Rosen, like I said, for our teams for sure.
Let's. Get Garrett.
I think that. Harrison Bryant is not.
Catching a touchdown, guys? Was that the freeze he's done?
For the night, I think they. They're just like, yo, you're
too good, Yeah. Either the.
First game or maybe the second game all year where we hit our
three and five leg from the from the jump.
I know we've hit multiple stuff, but a?
Lot of times at. Halftime, right?
Did we hit the three? How many times have we hit the
three and the five from the start?
At least once. At least.
Once. At least once I think twice, I
think did it twice 'cause it was the second time.
That the Taco Bell bit started. Yeah.
I think you're right. This is probably the third time,
but still pretty good timing to get that on the last the last
show. Profitable.
Season. For the very profitable.
Yeah, very. Profitable season.
For the they they set the line. So we could waste it all on
playoff basketball. Appropriately.
That's right. Make an investment.
In your future with. Pat's member Donovan's been
tailing. He says.
Thank you all for the goddamn picks.
You're welcome, Don. You're welcome, Don.
You're welcome, Simeon. Blowing past the attempts with
these late attempts. He's already at 40.
Yeah, he could. Have we should have gotten a
chili pepper there? We should have.
Gotten a chili pepper, Flacco somehow stayed under only 29
attempts from him after the first half where he had like 27.
You know, have you guys see the? The Breeze Hall rush attempts.
Did he go under? He went on half. 13 wow.
That was super. Close.
Wow. We.
Yeah, we pivoted off that to the the Breeze Hall over.
Four went under 2. And the But the rush yards went
over. Yep.
That was a good wow. That was another one that we
pivoted on, Yeah. Yeah, we got in the lab.
And we dialed it in this week. We did dial it in, 'cause we we
were on the right stuff but the wrong.
Well, yeah, I guess the breeze. Both would have been good, but
breeze, that would not have been a fun sweat when they're
running. And I'm, like, secretly happy
but also have to be like, Oh no, let's stop.
Yeah, I've not been able to. Seek the the faking it.
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Wants a. Screen share from.
Paddy millions on the. The BBM leaderboard, all right.
I got to check in on my Chihuahua.
How about? A.
How about a? Little.
Garrett Wilson Catch for the vibes here.
Third and one we need a we get. Two more cracks.
Oh wow, I'm in first. Guys, nice.
And the Chihuahua. So far.
There you go. With with.
With. Aaron Rodgers, Brock Purdy and
Desmond Ritter at quarterback. No, I got.
I got Bruce. Hall and Ford.
Nice you love to hear. And Conklin.
Oh, that's what did it. OK, Conklin Conklin.
'S got 7. Points.
That's what put me in the first, yeah.
And Kittle. 'S my other tight end, so.
You need Purdy so. The Purdy Kittle will be great.
Oh, was that Conklin again? It's not.
Here we go. Hear it?
It was. It wasn't Brownlee.
That is a big boy. That was your BOA.
I bet. Was that your boa year?
Thank you, David Yodoku. For that 5.
I think I. Think we just close on you, Boa.
Who do we got here? The top BBM team.
Noor, 77, has Aaron. Rodgers, So he's going to.
Be picking out of love. But he's got Ford, He's got
Breece, He's got Garrett. That didn't.
Do anything? He's got somewhat.
Stacked up Thursday night. Week 17 for.
The screenshot equity this guy. Heard Davis.
Matic. I mean, he's this game.
And said I'm going to. Rip it in on Cleveland Jets Week
17. You locked in. 2/23 plus point
running back games and of like a 14 point tight end.
A point tight end game. Pretty good, Nico.
Hartman How many? Jets in Bronx, Total are on this
team. Oh my.
God, half the Literally half the team is Browns in.
In it worked. Because Amari blew up in Week
16. Oh, does he?
Have a Mari? Got it?
Yes. Holy shit.
Ward is still. Outscored Bruce Hall, though, so
that's that's going to be a good differentiating piece.
For people. Because Bruce is way.
Because. Bruce is.
Way. Higher owned than Ford.
That's right. ORB is really low owned, yeah.
I also have CMC. On my team, so.
I'm. Not worried about my running
back position at all. In case you hey nor what's.
The if. If you're not doing a bit, and
this is really you, tell us the the story behind drafting 19
Jets Browns players. Was this because you heard it
was an El Nino year and it was going to be pretty mild?
Today? It was.
Hey, the El Nino. Thing came from I was with Rod
earlier, I couldn't remember, but it it was not going to be
bad weather in this game. That's right.
And now I remember it. Oh God.
Lots. Of stuff, Rod earlier I'll.
See El Nino bit, I thought, man, people are very.
Confused though. So this is my I got.
I have Ford in this one in the bulldog of.
A maid. Maybe before the?
Schedule came out was. BBM open to me I.
Must have been right, dude, the schedule.
Came out and you're like, I'm going to be leading BBM after
one beautiful night. Just hammered.
The Thursday night game, The day that the schedule he didn't even
know about El Nino yet. El Nino was not on the radar on
May 16th. But I mean, in fairness, we.
Did think that Aaron Rodgers was going to be the quarterback and
The Jets were going to be really good?
Yeah. We didn't know.
I don't know. Pete Lol.
I'll take it. That's.
What we all are that's. What we all are, man.
We're all there. Buddy.
Oh. Man.
I I was. Hoping there was a.
Better story to drafting all Browns and jets.
I mean. I.
Just was. Clicking buttons.
Man, and it looks great now all. Right.
A lot of Browns and jets. That's a.
Fantastic start. All he needs to do is hit on
some some wide receiver spikes. Didn't have a deep wide receiver
room, but he's got the running backs in the tight end field.
It's not Romeo Dobbs, dude. He's got Aniko Dobbs, Addison,
Evans, one of those guys is Addison playing?
Addison's out. He's.
Questionable Evans Lamb. Nico Dobbs.
He needs some ceiling games from that crew cause Amari's already
out. Garrett didn't give you a
ceiling. If Addison's out, Miko Hartman
ain't giving you it. But if he.
Threads that. Needle.
Everything else is in place, yeah.
Dobbs he? Has to have love.
So he's got to have love. Yeah, love is his only.
All you need is love. It's very wise.
All he needs is. Love a little Beatle.
I mean the. Beatles.
Thank you. I was like, I'm like, I'm like,
how old are the rest of you? Wouldn't you rather like this?
Look, this team, you'd rather be this team.
You got McBride and Kittle, and then you got the four.
Oh, I thought you were on your team.
For a second, I thought you were doing a bit.
Oh yeah, no, that team's. Great.
It got the two running backs from a four RB build already.
I mean, that's yeah. Did you guys avoid coop?
Amari on your on your finals teams or did you have to bite
that bullet, the wide receiver? I think this team is gonna run
into massive wide receiver firepower issues.
I I. Agree.
That's good. Those are not very good
receivers. He he He needs the.
Alpha digs game. Yeah, he got 14. .6 from Elijah
Moore I bet that hits his his final roster.
Yeah, that's good. That that'll be helpful.
So. There's one.
Then he needs a digs out. But he's also really well,
right? Because he just needs.
A huge CD Lamb on Monroe. He's got Rasheed.
Yeah, yeah, but. CD and Almond Raw are like the
highest owned guy, this combo, probably.
Yeah, there's contest. Huge chalk.
So, Vashi. But I saw is Pittman going to
play or is Pittman out Pittman pool.
I saw down Pittman pool practice.
So I'm I'm. Thinking I have them all.
Mine and then downs may. Not feel as good, so this is.
Another. Breece Ford.
Let's. See, it's got.
So it's a Derek. Carr.
Solo team Amari. Derek Carr Do it.
Twice, so I mean GG brown. Though.
Is a really nice. I know Jaws Beats has him.
That's an awesome piece to compete with the CMC teams this
week I have Devonta. So it's kind of the opposite,
but similar. They're both pretty low owned.
It's a Rasheed team. Let's see, this will be another
and that goes good with. Carr.
Oh, he has Hunt, it's. Interesting.
Well, he's got Stroud too. That's oh wow, Stroud.
And is he a Nico? Who's he got?
Him stacked with. No.
Unstacked, unstacked Stroud. Interesting, but he has that.
Hopkins opposite it. 'Cause all.
Of the the Texans receivers were such smashes you think you get
Stroud through 'cause you had, you know you got.
Stuff I. Guess they didn't really do
anything in the last couple weeks.
So is that it on the Ford? So, Oh, no.
Here's another Ford. Breece.
Ford, Breece, When I looked. At the combination, since I
haven't, you know, I mean it was a different, obviously a smaller
contest, but it was not that common cause Ford was not, yeah,
this one is focus. Looking.
For that and Warren, this is a very.
Chalky. Team but it's got Amara, right?
Amara CD Laporta Ferguson. So he's got like the.
Does he have Gibbs? He does not have Gibbs, but he
needs Goff, 'cause he's got Deshaun, so he's so to get those
two running back scores, you don't mind having the chalk
receiver combo. Right.
Yeah, the, the. Chalk is is way less of a
concern if you've already jumped out to a a league with unique
pieces, right? Yeah, I mean, forward forward's
gonna. Be big.
You get 25? Yeah, that's a.
Huge point. Yeah, that's that's a big score.
'Cause, I mean, he's gonna even. If you have two.
And you're gonna. I mean, you're gonna.
At least probably hit your flex even if you got two big, you
know. Thought pieces, I mean, he's.
Gonna hit something, all right. I need to go to bed guys.
This was a blast. Hit the oh shit, I said.
I need to go to bed with the giveaway.
The giveaway. Goodness.
That's been the. Real.
Pete, meanwhile, I'm. Just here, zoning out while we
look at a Jets, Browns onslaught in that's Palmania.
Let me get this over. At. 2 seconds.
Over at FFPC. I'm staring at. 9th place right
now, but also that kicker decision that I'm just doing the
mental math on. It would be in 3rd, you know,
not not. Not gonna hack me for the rest
of my life, don't worry. God and the.
Weight it'd be like 3 points. Behind 2nd 200,000 for 2nd,
100,000 for 3rd would be would be in line for 100,000 right
now. So when you're near the.
Top You don't have to need the leverage thing as much.
Just say no the that wasn't why we did.
The thing we had Harrison Butker, who was expected to win
instead of getting beat by the Raiders and then kick lots of
field goals when he was winning. But Sanders was still.
Higher projection, I think. No, I don't think you ever.
Thought it. That's what I'm hearing.
They had the they had an identical projection.
But Sanders going up against Dallas, We were I.
I said him too. So yeah, I.
Felt the same. Way.
So I can't really. We were a little nervous that
like. He could get in positions where
he wouldn't kick field goal so he'd be down.
By the way, BBM skilled Jerome Ford.
Oh, wow. He's at he's at least.
He's at he's. At least.
Eight and a half Ten. He's a full blown 10.
He just scored 25 points from the 1817 Week 17.
Yeah, well, Pete Sidola, so that's also correct.
That's not. Legal Pete, There's only a one
to 10. Scale.
Have you not read? BBM.
Scale by law. Into Week 17, the.
Scale goes up. Oh, oh, OK.
Fair. OK.
And go to 11 if he has a 20 pointer in week 17, Yeah, that's
an 11. All right.
How about 25? Points for Week 17.
No, they. Said twenty for.
Breeze earlier and I think that was no no.
I 27/8 no I'm. Looking at it, Ford has. 25.10
points No, no, we're spinning. Oh, we're shuffling 20 times in
honor of breeze. Oh all.
Right 20 Breeze. Spins.
Good luck. Her sister was a.
Witch bro. Alan.
J Mr. 299 Congratulations Alan, you win $100 in underdog credit.
We will get this dropped into your account shortly.
Appreciate all. Of you guys who have hung out
with us on the ship cast, like I mentioned, we're going to spin
up a few of these for. The playoffs and you?
Know what? Even if we don't have the
underdog credits, I will. I'll get some merch giveaways
going, some ship chasing merch so we can still do some some
wheel spins here for those of you guys who are watching with
us, And yeah, anything else from you guys here before we power
this down. It's been a blast.
The ship cast has freaking ruled all year.
Thank you for hanging out with us every Thursday night for 15
weeks. We've had a hell of a time doing
that. We were talking last night about
how it hasn't felt like content. It's just been like a really fun
hang every week and and you guys make that possible.
So thanks for hanging with us. Yeah.
And huge thanks to all of our guests, have had a blast having
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You guys see those on on Fridays.
Fun to have those. Speaking of which, Lou also put
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