Hi there, I'm Mike Schop. Welcome to ADP chasing Cinco de
Mayo. Now that the NHL Draft Lottery
has wrapped, we can expect an audience.
It's great that that's over so we can actually do this as
friends, as always, risers and fallers.
And is it already over for Malik Willis, who's entered the first
pitch? Hall of shame, as it were.
Oh. So bad.
Here we go, Davis Maddock, Jacob Sanderson, Pecker and our heroes
in position. ADP chasing May 5th, 2026.
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guys are just football guys. I have my 4% exposure blanket
stay poor. Actually, back in, if it's
ashenay it's. Here to our crystal ball. close
your eyes. You know all your entries are
going to lose anyway. Yeah.
That's fair. You're not going to tell me how
this went? I was here.
It's anti cabal, it's anti the best ball thought leader.
I'm obviously lying to some degree because like, I have a
lot of both of these guys. It's the most disgusting thing
you can make, but. Man.
Here I am in Buffalo enjoying the playoffs and our man Jacob
out on the West Coast where Vancouver was top odds to get
the first pick. Lee fan.
They come in and snipe it. So how's lottery life?
I guess it's pretty good for you, Cheer.
Cheers to my large adult son, Davin McKenna.
The hat and the jersey, that's so good.
And it's such a, it's such a good logo.
I mean, it's a shame that they're gonna be like basically
the worst team in hockey for the entirety of Jacob's adult life,
but you know. A little bit left in there, but
a great effort. That was a full, that was a full
Guinness chug. Shout out to the front of Saint
Pats. Just, I mean, the range of
outcomes tonight, unbelievable. Pat.
Is already sliding off the. Frame if we had to give the 6th
overall pick to the Boston Bruins legitimately like I don't
think that I would I would have a desire to live anymore and
instead, you know we get this and you know Pat's upset, but
but I'm not and just shout out to the Leafs man.
Was it rigged? Probably should it be rigged?
Yes, I support it. Always, always if you're, if
you're not cheating, you're not trying.
You know, I do have, I do have a little bit of a point to make
here, which is that Malik Willis made a big error with his first
pitch. I threw out the first pitch for
the Kansas City Chiefs in the summer of would have probably
would have been the summer of 2016.
The Royals. Yeah, sorry, not the chase for
the Kansas City Royals. And I practiced beforehand with
my roommate, who got to catch. And you don't have to throw a
fastball. You know, you can throw.
You can throw like a nice looping hanging curve.
Well, let's so this there's actually video here and it's not
in the the PDF version, but I'll share the slide, the raw slide
here. So you just see the the video.
If you haven't seen it, it's worse than you think.
It's really bad. Oh, wait, it's not.
Hang on. Yeah, Davis, and you just share
this? Put it in there.
All you do is put. It in there, you just put it in
there. It's very, it's very gentle.
Here's the pitch. Oh no.
Oof, look out in the back. Oh yo-yo God.
That's like worse than I actually even thought.
That's right. Like I knew it was bad.
I also threw out a first pitch once.
We are like my minor league or like junior team.
No. Won a competition to like get to
be the Little League team out there before the game and I got
to throw out a pitch and I like was a pitcher and I gotta admit
like it's nervous being out there like I threw it into the
dirt like it was not a strike, but it was a lot better than
that, that's for sure I. Threw a strike.
I want to be clear, I threw a strike.
Same now. Now, this guy, this guy.
This probably did not make your guys''s algorithm, but Patrick
Mahomes. Oh, that made your algorithm.
Believe. Believe it or not, it did make
my algorithm actually, yeah. This he he had he had not as bad
as Malik Willis, but he had quite a bad first pitch.
And Mahomes, by the way, played high level baseball.
His dad was professional baseball pitcher.
So I think you could just say, hey, there's something with the
mechanics of throwing the football is a lot different than
trying to throw a strike with the baseball And and we just let
it. I didn't let die.
I just couldn't when we. Had you hear you hear about
Kyler Murray's first pitch? Obviously he was a baseball guy,
too. Yeah.
It was, it was, it was terrible. But that was the day Call of
Duty came out. Oh.
Dude, Oh, Call of Duty. Came out, he forgot to practice
for weeks. I got AI, got a comment, I got
Crane. I got a comment on one of my
YouTube videos last week that said yeah dude, GTA 6 is coming
out. You think Kyler's going to be
good this year? Bro, GTA 6 is finally coming
out. Fade all the Vikings, bro.
Fade the Vikings. Don't fade the Vikings, but you
you might want to fade the best ball community's rankings.
If GTA 6 comes out I think it might be a drop off in
productivity. When the Bills had Trent
Edwards, he threw out the first pitch in Toronto for a game and
we were all starting, starting to like buy into Trent Edwards a
little bit. And it was almost this bad.
And I remember being on the air going like, oh, we have to talk
about this, don't we? Because when you sort of take
something like this and make it into a negative, then there's
like a horde of people that come after you like why do you hate
the Bills? Why do you why would you have to
make this into something like, you know what?
For me, if the starting, let alone any other position player,
if the starting quarterback misses the plate by 100 feet, I,
I don't know, like it seems maybe that they're not going to
be up to this. So I still remember that.
Is it over for Malik Willis? Hopefully not.
I mean, it's not over. Well, at least I hope it's not
because I end up drafting Matan because you sometimes you get to
that range in like the 10th, 11th round and you're like,
dude, if I skip on Malik Willis, I'm staring down the barrel of a
Jacoby Brisset Fernando Mendoza tandem at the end here.
I'm looking at Aaron Rodgers like, oh.
Is your quarterback one? No, no, it's your quarterback
too. No, I'm saying Malik will.
OK, OK, I see. I'm saying I'm saying you you
have you, you know, you you have your bow Nicks, you have your
Caleb Williams, you have your Jalen Hurts and you're like, OK,
well, I missed Jordan love, I missed Tyler Shock.
And if I don't take Malik Willis, I'm hoping to get Cam
Ward Chamire DK. You know, is is kind of what I'm
looking at, which is not something that you want to be
looking at in the contest where the goal is to score points.
Just put it. One way Ghosters score points.
You know, I, I was talking, I was talking with Silva last week
and he did make kind of an interesting point, which is
like, well, it's more like I have actually have not heard
anyone else make this point, No one else.
Silva's 'cause he's not. He's Kabal adjacent.
But Silva does not join in the cabal.
He's not at the meetings, dude. He's not.
He's not in the e-mail. He might be at different
meetings to be. Honest, he might be he, he.
You know what? I'll actually confirm that on
air he's at. He's not in the meetings and
that's his favorite thing about himself.
Hundred 100 million percent, yes, hundred 100,000,000%.
But he was making a point that I think it's actually hard to
argue about looking at what they did in the draft.
Now you can hate the draft picks they made.
You could say, dude, Caleb Douglas wasn't even in my
spreadsheet. Dude, Chris Bell is a torn ACL.
But like, if they thought those players were good, they did just
add like a cadre of young weapons for him to replace a guy
that everyone agreed they definitely should have traded,
right to get the first round pick for Jalen Waddle, given
what their team is going to be given their level of competition
this year. Just a no brainer, right?
No complete no brainer. They are like, kind of building
something that he can try and manipulate in.
Like, like, they're probably going to run a ton.
Like how many combined rush attempts projected HN Malik
Willis per game? 27 1/2 Yeah.
As many as they can do before they're down 24 to nothing.
I the, the, the rub is obviously that the defense is so bad,
right? That that is the, that is the
big rub. But the rub.
Is also that the offense is so bad, right?
Like well. What if it's not though?
What if it's OK? Let me let me give you let me
give you a comparable could the Miami Dolphins, Jacob, I'm gonna
give you 2 options. I'm gonna give you 2 cross board
options. Could they be the 20252026 Los
Angeles Kings in which they keep you in the mud for the entirety
of the game and don't even allow you any offensive freedom?
Or alternatively, could you be like the 2004 Detroit Pistons in
which you you again are just allowed no offensive freedom at
all. You're you're never allowed the
ball because you're trying. You're doing these like 17 play
drives. Yeah.
I mean, I think it's more that they're going to have a lot of
three play drives, yeah. Yeah, of course.
I think they're I. Think they're going to have a
lot of plays where they run the ball into a nine man box and
then it's second and 10 and then they run the ball again and it's
third and five and then Malik Willis takes a sack and then
they punt the ball away and then they they see the ball 8 minutes
later. That's my that's just my fear.
It's just an offense that might have some games where they run
like 42 plays because they are are they have like 1 successful
9 play drive that takes up 7 minutes off the clock because
they're running the ball all the time.
And then they have a lot of three and outs and their defense
is terrible. So they give up a bunch of
sustained drives and teams can get run heavy on them.
Like kind of like The Jets last year, right?
Like it's just you have some of these it.
Does it does seem like very like, yeah.
But The Jets did not have a quarterback who could average 4
1/2 yards to carry on 11 attempts.
Yes. They did.
They had Justin Fields I.
Think fields fields is not. Again, I'm always open to fields
like. Look, I I'm not coming.
After fields as a runner, but if?
We're talking about Fields. As a runner, he can do that.
I I'm not coming after fields I. I'm not coming after fields as a
runner. I'm coming after fields as a,
what would you even call it, like a battering ram style like
fields more what you treasure about fields as a as a runner is
the scrambling, the escapability.
They're like, Oh my God, he just had a 47 yard rushing touchdown
where he was the fastest guy on the field.
How often are you calling quarterback power with fields?
A lot that's. Your fault if you're not doing
that if you're. Not calling quarterback power
for with Justin Fields. Why do you employ Justin Fields?
Yeah. They should have, Yep.
Justin Fields is is 6 foot three 227 lbs Malik Wells is 61225.
Like you, you better be running quarterback power with Justin
Fields. He can't throw any 63230 it's.
It's this is completely possible that this is me memory wiping
the situation. My memory of watching of the
2025 Jazz is mostly sadness, but well.
Yes. It it was it was.
It was not very it was not very much of breeze for two yards,
fields, quarterback power. It it was a lot of like breeze.
Twice for two yards, then an incomplete pass to Mason Taylor.
Oh, I mean, Oh my God, did a. Bird, just fly into your house.
Oh. God, there was.
I have my window cracked open and like a squirrel tried to get
in but like it couldn't quite squeeze its way in.
So. My blinds just went like this
and like the squirrel's like face was like through the window
like. 7. Inches for me but it's like body
was still stuck outside like I'm under siege.
They're at the. Gates that that was like like if
I had my window open cracked like 3 inches more like I would
have just had a squirrel bite my face off on camera was.
It a black squirrel or not to it was a.
Black squirrel. A black squirrel.
It was a black squirrel and it actually got into my apartment
yesterday and I think it was the same one because I, I like sleep
with my window open to like try and keep things cool.
And so yesterday I was just like playing video games on my couch
as the squirrel like had come in through the bedroom and started
running around my living room and like, it's, it's like pretty
warm. Like what am I going to do?
We don't have air conditioning in the city.
So like, I guess the squirrels are just trying to kind of,
that's kind of. What I mean that Squirrel is
creating for himself like Justin Fields had to do last year.
Davis, have you ever seen a black squirrel?
Never in my life. Did you know they exist?
How can that be true? He doesn't.
Live in Canada? Yeah, I live in the Midwest.
We have a lot of squirrels, but they are like a tawny, yeah.
Gray red squirrel, right? Interesting.
I kind of assumed that like a black squirrel was like
everywhere squirrel. I've never considered them to be
particularly unique, but yeah, they're they're big fat.
Squirrels. If I jump across the river, all
the squirrels are black. Come back, they're all Gray.
Interesting. That's crazy.
Yeah, Yeah. I didn't.
I did not know that. Anyway, I'd like to.
I'd like to put a pin on this before we do another 37 minutes
on Dijon scribbling, which we are.
Certain you want to put a pin on the leak Wellness, or on this,
or against the squirrels. We're.
The thing is with. Willis with.
Willis, that is tough for me. Is that like we always do this,
we don't know which teams are gonna be absolute ass, right?
And so we have to have a little optimism for everyone because
some teams will surprise us. The Colts, for example.
It, it and it. Always feels obvious and high.
It's really good, right? Like, oh, I thought the Seahawks
were gonna be terrible last year, I thought.
The Seahawks wouldn't be good, by the way.
Neither did the market. You know it was.
They weren't expected to be a good team.
They won the Super Bowl. Some teams really surprise you,
but some teams don't surprise you at all.
And usually that team's The Jets and they suck like you kind of
knew they would. But the Dolphins do have that
stink of like the new Jets. Or maybe just The Jets will be
The Jets and they'll also be The Jets.
But it it is like Fields had 5.4 yards per carry last year.
Good. He's a good.
He's a good runner. The point, the point I was
making was not Fields as a bad runner.
My point was that and like, literally, it might just be an
aesthetic thing. Like Fields just seems more
live, where Willis looks much more like that dude's just gonna
put his shoulder into a linebacker and win I.
Think he is more of like that that kind of like maybe between
the tackles E type of quarterback runner or something
like he's got more moves. Is there a place?
That I can check this? Can I literally check like how
many times fields ran in between the?
Like does PFF have this? OK, I mean, to be clear, if if
your points is that Justin Fields is a very good inside
Russian quarterback who The Jets used stupidly, like sure The
Jets coaching staff was not not doing things well.
I'll I'll concede that point. Yeah.
And I mean, not that, not that PFF Bobby I think is gonna like,
do great at it or whatever. Week 1 last year, he had this
huge game. We were also excited against
Pittsburgh and then the Bills went there in Week 2 and he went
three for 11 for 27 yards and two sacks, and that was kind of
like. So I'm, I'm looking at it
Fields. Fields last season had 118 yards
after contact. Twenty of his runs were zone
runs. Six of his runs were gap runs,
28 of his runs were scrambles, which that is more like what it
seems like in my head. 5050 between design runs and
scrambles 26 and 28 I'm. Trying to see if I can get the
SO for the entirety Malik Willis career and granted he has not
played that much he has been 15 zone runs, 11 gap runs, 28
scrambles so it slightly more like the exact.
Same ratio that they both have exactly 26 design runs and 28
scrambles. So and then for the entirety of
fields career, it's 181 zone plus gap, 204 scramble.
OK. It's a pretty similar ratio,
yeah. Yeah, yeah, I, I don't know, I
mean it the Dolphins, I haven't taken a ton of Willis 'cause I'm
just I worry about, but he's a lot cheaper than Fields was last
year, so he could he could pay this off if they just run him
enough for sure. I think he's he's fine.
He's kind of fine, but he's cheaper than.
Fields was, but he doesn't have Garrett Wilson.
Doesn't. Have Garrett Wilson, his wide
receiver one is Chris Bell off a torn ACL, something named Caleb
Douglas, Malik Washington. That's the that's the hard part.
I get behind like I'm, I already think he's punching uphill where
he's this limited quarterback who's never really dropped back
much. And then and then we we can't
even give him anyone to throw to.
Like I just wish he had one guy that you could really rely on.
I I. Agree.
I agree. And the other thing I I worry
because you talk about Bobby Slowic like that's not the head
coach. The head coach is the defensive
guy who I'm not sure is like a great defensive coordinator.
He I was more impressed with his players than him last year, you
know, and he's got this, the guy he is replacing is like this,
you know, little little dude looks like he's been up out of
the club, has some cool new sunglasses.
He's showing off running around in Capri pants.
This is a culture changer. This is a I'm establishing A
defensive mindset. This is I'm gonna come in and if
we score 17 points, we won this game and yeah, we let up 27.
But you know what? We're we're building something
here. And I just, I'm like, I'm
worried that they aren't gonna have like they're not gonna try
to score enough points. Like for real.
Like I think that's part of the downside of the of the Dolphins
is like, for one thing, they're probably just straight up
tanking. So that's that's an issue.
And then the other part is that like the mindset of like what a
good football game means is like, I don't know, I'm not
sure. They're throwing out all the
stops. They're busting out trick plays,
You know what, the fourth quarter to try to win games.
They're like, listen, Malik, like we need you.
You got to make plays. If you throw a pick here, like
we, we get it. They're going to be like,
listen, you've already thrown a pick.
Protect the ball. You know they're.
Last year's Giants. They could be last year's Giants
like that last. Year's Giants.
Last year's Jets. Not playing to win just.
Sad. Just like, yeah, like they're,
they're not, they don't play like an underdog because they
just want to get the losing over with.
How do you like The Jets? Your head coach was a All pro
defensive back and you went the entire season without a single
interception. How was that even possible?
It's crazy. It's never been done.
It's.
Amazing. I mean, if anybody was their
head coach, still amazing. There's so many.
Records that are like, hey, yeah, but you got to keep in
mind like it's a 17 game season. You know the the in the past
they they had fewer games to work.
It was a 17 game season. They had an extra game to get an
INT. This would be impossible now.
Right, amazing. Do you guys want to go to
Stribling Davis? Is that what you?
Is what John said we might. Have.
We might have talked about. Stribling, We.
Might as well, because it's just gonna I First off, I'd like to
say I've completely capitulated to the leg up cabal here in the
sense that a guy I know sucks and is not good.
But in the same way that I knew Woody Marks was gonna suck and
not be good, which I was literally couldn't have been
proven more right about. But Woody Marks was I think like
my fourth most drafted player of the whole season last year.
Cuz the market price was wrong. There was 1.
There was one specific quote about Stribling in addition to
Pat's like pretty obvious point he was making which was he was
the 33rd pick in the draft. Although I would like to.
Don't, don't undermine my ability to do research, please.
I would I would like to we can table this and do it on another
segment. I'd like to I'd like to do the
same thing on Caitlin Black and and get your thoughts there.
There was a quote from multiple media members that a possibility
I hadn't really considered that this internally might be viewed
as re rolling the Ricky Pearsall pick.
Like this is a guy we know we need.
It's a pretty specific role inside of the Shannon offense.
And Piersol has basically been the least dependable player on
our roster. He's been injured every season
of his career. He got shot.
He's got the soft tissue injuries.
The soft tissue injuries have reoccurred.
He had a knee issue that bothered him for the entirety of
last season. They lose Brandon Iukes, they
lose another perimeter player, they get a one year patch with
Mike Evans. But I mean, you look at that
contract and you're like, yeah, he's not going to play for us
any longer than this year. It'd be real surprising if we
get him for the next year and if that's true, then maybe maybe he
is really underpriced. Maybe he is just like way
underpriced if if there's a chance that he can fill in that
Pierce all role for them. Also, he was the 33rd pick in
the draft. I just want to shout out Jammin
in the comments that I reacted to.
Scribbling being drafted at 30. Three, like Jacob, reacted to
that squirrel spilling. I really, I really mean this.
When I checked, when I checked the app and I saw that Stribling
had gotten picked, I thought it was the beginning of the third
round. I I thought I had missed the
entirety of the second round. I was like, shit, am I?
Am I two hours late? Yeah.
Are we going to, are we going to do like what, like Stribling
corner every 10 minutes on ADP chasing just this whole summer?
It's it's summer. I, I I don't really.
I don't. Really have too much more to
say. I feel like it's, I've said.
I don't have anything more to say.
He stinks. We don't know for sure.
He stinks and he won 33rd and he'll have a role by the end of
the season most likely. Yeah, fair.
I I'd like to, I'd like to just we could do Jadarian price like
that's honestly probably enough on Stripling.
I'd like to do price for just a second.
And I know we did a a talk there, but like, do you guys
care that the market is moving my way like I did 5 drafts.
Yeah, I. Care.
He went in the I love it, I mean.
I didn't I. Didn't like last week.
I'm so happy. It's the best thing.
It's happened all week. Oh, so good, I mean.
When you when you picked him last week, I like I'm the lowest
on price and I agreed that the market was going to move your
way. I, I just think that like, I
think you're, I think you and the market are, are marching to
ruin. But I, I do I'm not surprised
that the market is up your way. I agree that that the I'm happy
that the price on price is it a point where like even patentized
mild disagreement is like largely meaningless That's.
In the rearview, man, we're on the same team now I.
Actually, I, I actually don't have 0% though, because I got
him today a steal. I already had one quarterback
drafted and he was there at 67 and the only players ahead ahead
of him were quarterbacks. And I was like, this is probably
the only price I'm getting all the year because this train is
leaving the station. So I, I don't have the 0% I
predicted, but I'm, I'm, I'm content seeing him go up to the
5th. I hope he gets to the 4th.
What's the fill me in? What's the base argument against
him? Not in terms of exactly his
value, but why he won't be their number one.
Well, I think he'll be their number one like but like, but
there's variations of #1 right, Like are you the number one in
the sense that you get the most of a of a group or are you the,
are you getting everything? And you know, he, he might be a
three down back. We've never seen it before.
He wasn't in college. He doesn't really have any
receiving profile. His pass protection issues is
undersized. So like the the idea of him
having a role that's substantially larger than what
Ken Walker had last year is just hard for me to project.
Even noting that Zach Charbonnet is going to miss a portion of
the year. So that's that's really my issue
with him is just he he's a a tough player to project for a
time let. Me, let me at least reframe this
in a way that makes me sound smarter than he was.
A first round running back pick and first round running backs
are like guaranteed to hit. What if I'm just betting against
Zach Charbonnay? What if I just say Charbonnay
sucks? He's not going to come back from
his ACL injury and I think that Price can play pretty good while
he's out because. That sounds like you nailed it.
That sounds. Totally fair.
My argument is Zach Charbonnay does not play a game this year
that Jadarian Price is still not paying off fifth round ADP.
Can OK, I'd like to. I'd like I'd like to find a way
to bet on that. Sure.
I mean, like the bet is that if Zach Strawberry does not play
this year, which he's probably going to play this year, so the
bet would void. But if if for whatever reason he
doesn't play this year, then yeah, we can bet on whether he
has AI don't know like above average advance rate or like
higher best ball points above replacement for his draft slot
or whatever metric we want to see.
All right. I'll have I'll have Zach devise
the the perfect way to to phrase this wager.
I liked it like this bet almost certainly will void and this is
like like definitely a waste of Sach's time, but I think he's
sick enough to still help you. With all, he's definitely sick
if. Anyone is sick enough.
That guy is sick enough for sure.
He's. Already he's getting in the chat
in 2 minutes. Chris Diaz with a great quote
here. Prices the Malik Willis running
back looked awesome and his three snaps.
Couldn't agree more. He did look really good on like
the three plays that he played for Notre Dame last year.
I think so my argument against price at this at these prices
and I think he's a perfectly fine pick in the early 6th,
which is where we haven't ranked, but he's moving up and I
think he probably keeps moving up is just like the opportunity
cost that you get with the other running backs in that range
where like like I know Cam Scataboo can play and not.
Taking over Scataboo. Well, you know, he's potentially
headed that way. I mean, I you have him, I think
ahead of where we have Scataboo at 51.
I've. Got scataboo ranked really
aggressively. I got scataboo higher than that
too. OK.
All right. Well then that's that's fair.
But that is kind of the range where Scataboo goes.
We've got him next, by the way. So we have him ranked 48th, so a
little bit ahead of that. Anyway, Tooten, you know, I, I I
like tooten and I think Tooten has like more receiving juice
and that offense is also pretty exciting.
And I think he's got really less competition or at least you
know, depending on how you feel about Charbonne at the end of
the season. But it's similar.
I'd rather bet on Toot. And I thought, you know, he's a
little bit more interesting of a guy and he's he's carved out a
role over over one year. So I'm I'm into Tooting over
him. I'm into Henderson over him, I'm
into Montgomery over him. So those running I've been to
Judkins over him. So the the other running backs
there, I I think are just better profiles, better bets.
And then there's also receivers that you get like I want to have
some Jordan Tyson and and Colonel Tate and Christian
Watson I think is a solid pick there.
So as he moves up, I'm just like, yeah, I, I just a bunch of
other guys I'd rather have. And like there's a report from
Fowler. He said that the sense in
Seattle, yeah, is that the sense that Seattle is that first
round? Tailback Jadarian Price won't
have to be a bell cow right away.
The Seahawks have backfield depth and also hope to utilize
dual threat quarterback Jalen Millroe.
No, see, it went too far. You tell too much of A lie.
See, that's this is this is classic beat writer bullshit.
They go too far. It's like beat writer, I'm with
you, I'm with you. Nope.
OK, you lied. You got, you get, You go too far
has. A special skill set that will be
hard to keep off the field. Field, but he'll have to.
But he'll have time to develop too, so.
And that's the whole step. By the way, is Kick returning?
He's fantastic at it. He's really.
Good at that. The thing that you risk, I think
price comes with some of the risk of these, you know these
guys like a Tootin. Like I think Tootin will
eventually be a starting running back, right.
But like it wasn't last year and it's in like we have seen guys
where you're like, surely they couldn't play, you know, a
George Helani type over this guy.
It does still happen for these for these younger running backs.
So they they don't they don't necessarily play right away.
I mean, the example that Jacob gave last week was Jonathan
Taylor. You know, Marlin Mack goes down
and it's like wheels up and they were playing with Wilkins,
Jordan Wilkins over him and that's Jonathan Taylor, that's
Jonathan Taylor. So they if they don't feel like
price is like ready to handle the assignments or whatever
right away, like he just he won't he won't play a ton.
So there is I think that doesn't happen.
I think he he does play, which is why I like him in the early
6. But as he moves up, it's like,
hey, I got guys that are going to be playing right out of the
gate and I know are good, you know, so or at least I feel more
confident that they're good, even if I don't know for sure
depending on the back. So yeah, it's just it just moves
into a a different range of the draft where I think the the
other guys you can take are are just stronger.
I mean, that's what really scares me about him is is you
get it from both ends. It's like I have the concerns
about the ceiling of the profile, right based on what he
did in college and like the the name I would sort of throw out
there as a comp for the ceiling issues I have.
It's like Sony Michelle, who is a kind of a similar prospect,
went very similarly in the draft.
He was the team's clear RB 1. He had 209 carries as a rookie.
He caught 7 passes though so like not really that high of a
ceiling he had. I think it was a total of of 6
touchdowns and like 950 total yards is a rookie.
That's not really a great rookie season.
You also throw but. It it also turned out Sony
Michelle sucked. So one of the one of the things
that I'm betting, well, this one of the things I'm betting is
that maybe he doesn't like, maybe he does.
OK, sure. Sure, sure.
But like so other other prospects who went late, one
that had like, I think less than typical late 1 early 2 profiles,
like who went in this 25 to 40 range, like there are a lot of
busts. Like, yeah.
One massive success story that I think Price could emulate would
be Josh Jacobs, who had, you know, limited workload in
college and he goes in the late 1st.
And he had, I forget his rookie year off hand, but I, I think it
was pretty strong. And I think if Price had a Josh
Jacobs rookie year, I think people would be very happy with
that. But like CEH, for instance,
there was no competition for chapter.
You know what happened was in August they signed Le'veon Bell
like or or in or in the September they signed Le'veon
Bell and instantly like buddy buddy.
Fucking trust me. Yeah.
No, I know, I know Davis
remember this. I mean, Rashad Penny lost his
job to Chris Carson, who like was if everybody thought he'd
get pushed aside, like there's Ronald Jones.
I mean, everybody on this program remembers Ronald Jones.
He was like the 30 camera. Overall pick.
Right. I mean, he's another comparable
guy to Price and he who did he play behind as a rookie like
some total bum, like nobody Interesting.
It wasn't. Even Fournette.
Yet it was like, I don't. Even think it was Peyton Barber
yet? Was it Barber?
Charles Sims? Oh my God, old jabroni, we.
Peyton Barber, Dude, you just shook something loose in my my
skull. Oh, my God.
Let me look up the I'm. Pretty sure Barber actually came
in the following year 'cause it was like, oh, see that, you
know, he has a chance to to take the the job and then who he
didn't. OK, here's Carrie's on the 2018
Buccaneers. No, it it was indeed it was.
Peyton Barber had 234 carries. Second on the team and carries
was Jameis Winston, 49. Third on the team and carries
was Ryan Fitzpatrick, 36. Fourth was Jacquizz Rogers, 33
and 5th on the team and carries is Ronald Jones.
Yeah. He he straight up redshirted
that 2019 year. It was he.
Didn't my my point in that there's that like I have
concerns about the upside because of prices specific
profile, but you're also getting catastrophic downside when
you're dealing with a rookie. So like you, you're getting it
at both ends that I I find to be his if I.
Just filter down to first and second round picks.
His top comps are Miles Sanders, which I think is his top.
Yeah, that's his top comp anyway.
Ronald Jones is second. James Cook, who is a little bit
of a, you know, undersized, not didn't have a ton of usage, but
he caught passes. Kenneth Walker, Trayvon
Henderson, who you know, you did deal with some some usage issues
last year and Henderson this fucking explosive as hell and
still had issues. You know, he got phased out in
the playoffs for Ramandre Stevenson like that.
That type of fate I think is on the table for for price where he
flashes, he looks good, but they they need someone to grind when
it's time to grind and they they turn to the Chardonnay.
So I think yeah, I just think there is a lot of there's
downside with this profile for sure.
Like he was a college backup. There's downside.
So you know that when you get into the early fifth round,
that's where I'm like, great. So Quintron Jenkins is still
available, and so is Basil Tootin.
And you know, maybe David Montgomery is here, too.
Like I'll take those guys. I'll.
I'll we can get, we can end after this.
I'm going to make one final point.
I was not convinced by anything brought up in this conversation
to change my ranking yet, other than a very specific point Jacob
made, which is that I will probably be pretty sensitive to
the early reporting at OTAs and at training camp.
Like day 10 Jadarian Price was with whoever the fuck the third
quarterback is for the Seahawks. I don't care.
Mid Wednesday of Week 2 and George Chilani leads the
athletic thing, then OK, I'll be I'll say OK, time, time to time
to back off. And if he gets like I have him
in a range where like I'm comfortable mixing him and
tooten and swift, like it just kind of like roughly like
randomly and I I'm still going to keep him there, but I'm not
going to try and like pace ahead of the market as he like if he's
going ahead of scataboo, I don't actually think there's any
upside there. Like I think there's like no
chance he beats healthy scataboo.
That tweet from Jeremy Fowler that mentioned Jalen Millro, if
it leaves out Jalen Millro and it's about, you know, players in
different. Positions somebody.
It's a better tweet somebody. I'm almost done.
Somebody tweets on top of it. This is actually a Jalen Millro
tweet. Instead he's in the tweet and
now it absolutely 100% always was a Jalen Millro tweet.
I. Mean.
Of course it was. Now we know.
Give it away. That's so fucking fantasy
football players are so annoying.
This was a Jalen Millroach week. This is.
The most insufferable group of people on earth.
You. Think he was getting ahead of
that. He's just been, he's just been
trolled so many times. He's yeah, let.
Me just let me just admit it. Let me just admit it.
Put it in there. That's.
That's amazing. We have.
The Giants next. We talked about Scataboo for a
second there. I like how Index of Suspicion
does have us covered. It's actually a George Cholani
tweet. It's.
Actually. A George Cholani tweet.
Bro it's whoever you want it to be.
Tweet. Scataboo.
What about it, 48?
You guys are simpatico on this player.
All three of you, Yeah. Well.
That's probably raise him. I'm going to.
Raise him already. Boring.
I. I'd actually, I think scataboo,
I think I think we're I think we're all aligned there.
Like he like he's just really good pick.
Whatever. I think maybe Tracy we should
have had a like a larger reevaluation of because not only
did they not draft Jeremiah Love, but they didn't draft any
of these other chuds either. Like they didn't draft.
Retain Devin Singletary, who is surely better than most of the
day. Three chods on the New York
Honest. To God, I I like actually did
not know that straight up. I like that.
Like I I assumed he was on a one year deal last year and he was
not on the team. No, he was on a three-year deal
last year or or. No, he was on a three-year deal
when they signed him two years ago.
This was the third of those three years and they they
negotiated his salary down to retain him so.
I think it matters a little. Bit because like, I don't, I
don't think Singletary will play much at all when they have
everybody healthy. But I do think, I mean, we,
because we saw it last year, it would be reasonable to say that
he caps a little bit of Tracy's contingent upside.
Like if, if scataboo goes down, I don't think it's 9010 Tyrone
Tracy. I think it's more 65357030,
which is, is what it was last year.
So I don't view Singletary as a major impediment to Scataboo,
but he he is the he's a reason why like I've seen a lot of
people like very bullish on Tyrone Tracy and I, we're all
behind ADP on him. I don't.
Want to get slightly? I don't want to get more impact
quite a bit. So I'm.
I'm curious to Pat 'cause he's, he's the, he's the one who's 20
picks behind ADP on Tracy. Yeah, I think if you're going
for a guy like Tracy, you want to have probably a couple, you
know, a couple reasons that you could be, you could go on.
For a player like this, the best reason would be that it's an
ambiguous backfield and that you might have be able to straight
up draft a starter in the one 30s.
It's not like Scataboo is definitely better than him.
I mean, there's a little bit of ambiguity because he's coming
off injury, but Scataboo does all the Tracy stuff better than
Tracy does it. And so, you know, maybe Tracy
eats into it a little bit more because Scataboo is not as good
as he was as a rookie. But it's not like it's the
problem with Tracy is that he's just not that good.
We we've seen him, yeah, we've seen him in a fairly big sample
now of him not being very good. So I don't I am I betting on
talent for him to emerge and steal a job?
No, I'm not. So OK.
You know, there's some contingent upside.
But to your point with Singletary, not it's not as
clean as as I would like it to because I think Singletary who
kind of just takes snaps like he's a snap eater.
You know, he, he's not always just often some like Isaiah
Davis, you know, specific role. He, he could actually become the
starter over Tracy. You know, it probably starts
Tracy, but if it's over 8 games or something, that could be
singletary by the end of it. So, so that part of it doesn't
feel great. And then also he's not free if
he, if he, if you're like, yeah, fine.
He's like just he's like a, a pure contingent play.
But like the upside isn't, isn't as clean as other contingent
guys. But hey, I need AI, need an
extra running back and I'll take him here.
Like that sounds more like Laquint Allen to me than where
he's going. So that that's part of it.
And then I mean, the final thing would be like, am I dying to
invest in the Giants offense? Like I give me a piece of this
offense, like kind of no matter what.
Nope, This offense kind of I'm this is a Matt Nagy offense.
I'm kind of worried about it. So yes, that that would be.
I might lower him. I I'm.
On I'm actually, I'm happy to hear what you said because every
time I've looked at Tracy and I'm, I already am but a half a
round behind ADP on him. But every time I've looked at
him like, why is he going so high?
Like, and why do I have to feel obligated to rank him that high?
So I, I should, I'm, I'm, I'm going to lower him closer to
where you have him because I found that quite convincing.
Good job, Pat. Yeah, yeah.
Scataboo is one of our risers for the week.
The others, Tony Pollard dodged the draft, so to speak.
Trey Tucker, Jonathan Brooks, Jaden Reed, Quentin Johnston.
There's Tracy as well. Mark Andrews and Chris
Rodriguez. We talked about a number of
times. Pollard, how safe a bet.
Everybody loves the Singleton, it seems.
In my rookie drafts, I I. Like him?
In in a as a dynasty bet. I think Singleton is fun as a as
a guy who's going to factor a lot into the 2026 basketball
season. Considering me pretty skeptical
on on like that round five Nick Singleton, barring multiple
injuries, is going to be a huge part of the story of this
season, I think. I think his path looks a little
bit more like the Chase Brown, Basil Tootin, Kyra Williams path
of like he plays very little in year 1.
But hopefully the team sees enough kind of on the practice
field or in a few opportunities to make room for him as part of
their backfield plan in year 2. Because, you know, Pollard and
Spears both are their contracts up and so maybe they get to keep
one or they they let both walk and add some Chris Rodriguez,
Zach Moss type individual. But yeah, Pollard, I mean, I was
trying to hammer him the first couple days of the contest
because I think we all knew where this was going.
And like where it's going is a very dead zoning profile of a
early down old back on a presumed bottom ten offense that
I don't really want to click at the 6-7 turn.
So yeah, I think I'm going to probably be resting on my big
board chairs in my first couple days of BBM shares at this
point. Yeah.
I mean, he's he's he's very dead Zony.
And he wasn't in the dead zone really.
At least, you know, you know, for best ball and he's kind of
moving into it now. I think there's there's like
worse things you can do if you need if you need a running back
there in the seventh round. But yeah, he was he was a kind
of a scary pick to be. I wasn't I wasn't like smashing
Pollard. I honestly like with the
sidekick. I was kind of IK being off of
him a little bit in pre draft because I was like feels like
they're going to take Jeremiah love.
Obviously they got sniped. I think they would have taken
Jeremiah love, but he didn't. So he you know, he survives that
Spears probably isn't going to impinge on his his work load too
much. But I don't know.
I mean, Singleton is at least like probably decent enough that
he along with Spears keeps Pollard from like, you know,
being a true like total workhorse.
So and then it is pretty fragile, you know, like it.
I wouldn't be shocked if single. I don't really want to bet on it
right now, but there could be a time where I was betting on
Singleton this year. There there could be surprising.
At all, if we showed up and through four weeks of the
season, we're like, Oh my God, Tony Pollard is washed, Washed.
And then the question is like, OK, well.
Which of Spears or Singleton takes a job?
And like, yeah, that could be Singleton, I think.
I think Singleton's issue is I don't see how he gets snaps
until there's an injury. Like I like Spears already plays
on 3rd downs. Pollard's going to be their
starter. I don't like it would stun me if
in week one, Week 2 we're seeing a lot of Singleton snaps.
In fact, I highly suspect they have, you know, Michael Carter's
actually, I guess Michael Carter actually doesn't play special
teams because that's why he was inactive for Arizona last year.
But anyway, it wouldn't even surprise me if Singleton's like
inactive for the first month of the season, but Spears gets hurt
all the time. So, you know, maybe Singleton
gets in there for 30% of snaps if Spears goes down, looks good,
starts, starts to climb from that point.
But yeah, I don't know. Well, like, you'd, you'd rather
have like Ramondre and Warren than Pollard, right?
I would. I'd definitely rather have
Warren Romandre similar to me. I'd take Pollard sometimes.
I'd take Romandre sometimes. OK.
I would. Just rather that on the Patriots
offense than the Titans offense I think.
Yeah. So they're literally
back-to-back in, in our rankings, 80 and 81.
I mean not non derogatory, that's fair.
Yeah, what? About Pollard versus Chuba.
I think they're similar. Yeah, I like Pollard a little
bit more there, but like, I don't have AI, don't have a huge
opinion. The thing with Chuba, so Chuba,
Chuba's up to 72 in our rankings, but he has, I'm
actually in a lower arm. It's it's all ADP driven.
I like Chuba. Is he not on this list?
Chuba is up to like an ADP in the in like the 67 range.
Now it's kind of nuts on Chuba. And what's weird about it is
that Jonathan Brooks is all like, Jonathan Brooks is, like
tracking him. So it's like, what is the market
expecting? How are both of them going?
Yeah, like. Was was the market and they
picked 19th. So it's not like they were one
of the Jeremiah Love teams like and they are.
And they also had Trevor Etienne.
So maybe it's like 2 different groups of people.
There's like a Chuba drafters that are getting more excited
and there's the Brooks drafters that are getting more excited,
but they're mutually independent from one another.
I think that's right. Like I never, I never expected
Carolina to draft a running back.
They they already seemed like they had their three.
So I don't really see why the backfield as a whole is rising.
I see why Brooks is rising because we've gotten, I think
more positive, the negative news on his health.
And you know, if they had drafted a running back that
would have really, I think been bearish on what they expected
from Brooks this year. But I don't really get why Chuba
is rising. Also the the chat asked.
They said they could barely hear me.
I turned up my mic so if people want to let.
Me know I can hear you, you sound.
Good. I can hear you just fine.
Yeah, I can hear you fine. All.
Right, it's a, it's a, it's a bit the chat, all right, Every
week they mentioned at some point they can't hear Jacob.
Yeah. I think this C.
Rod thing by the way. Group of people.
OK. The the C rod thing, like it's
getting to a point where like even if you're right that he
gets more carries this year than Tooting, I still am not
convinced he's a great pick at 114.
Like it's it's like we're we're getting really close to the edge
here. We're like, this guy does not
catch passes at all. Well, we've.
Been over the edge on where I think he's reasonable from a
range of outcomes perspective, but like, I'm not even sure he
makes sense at this price in a we assume I'm right.
Like, like if you, you would have to be such a so confident
in your take on how this backfield is going to go to be
that interested in a guy who never catches any passes like at
114. Like, I mean, or, or you just
think he's getting like 12 touchdowns.
Like it's just his path is so narrow that like any, any
element of uncertainty of whether you're wrong about how
that situation is going to go. Like that's a tough price, man.
I really don't get it. The thing that's that's sort of
that I struggle with to understand the Chris Rodriguez
play is that his backfield was more wide open last year.
Way. More wide open way.
More He really didn't do shit, you know, he the.
Commanders. The commanders cut and waved him
15 times. He's not good.
What do you? What do you?
Want me to say I'm done? I'm done kowtowing to the
fucking Chris Rodriguez mafia. You guys watched him on
Thanksgiving, are you? 'Cause you haven't ranked a full
round ahead of us. So.
Like I see a lot of cow towering and not right Davis, you hear
that? Davis Ranch like.
That was like. 22 diverging pads and both of them are like
excellent, but I kind of I kind of wanted to hear Davis go on
Rev. It back up, Rev it back. Up.
Give us both paths. Give us both paths I.
Mean it's same, same as Pat. Because I, I'm doing, I'm doing
market, I'm doing market baking and all this stuff.
And there is an element of like, I don't really like Jordan
Mason. I don't like Kenny Gainwell.
I'm more in the Jacob camp of like, I don't understand Kenny.
Gainwell's the worst pick in the draft.
I mean, I don't, I don't know. About I mean.
I I think, I think at this point, Alec Pierce might
actually be the worst pick in the entire board, but.
Like it's not. Good.
What are you hope like realistically you're out with
Chris Rodriguez is one thing. He scores.
He he I was I was doing some remember that guy today.
There was a season where Marion Barber had 100 and like 14
rushes and 14 touchdowns And like that's the C rod path.
The C rod path is like a role that basically doesn't like
doesn't Gus Edwards best best comp is the the Gus Edwards
Raider Raven season, his last season for the Ravens before his
knee gave out where he scored. He scored like 13 touchdowns
while like just actively being a fat lard Jamal.
Williams. Jamal Williams That's that's
what you get. Do we even think the Jaguars
offense is gonna be that good? Like, do we think they're gonna?
Be pretty good I think the Jags. Offense is gonna be good.
I think, I think Jamal Williams is kind of what the C Rod hive
thinks they're getting where that he had, he had 262
attempts, he had 1066 yards, 4.1 yards, would carry 17
touchdowns, 17 rushing touchdowns, also total
touchdowns. He had only 12 receptions for 73
yards. So it was all rushing driven,
but man, he scored 17 touchdowns.
I think that is more than he 'cause he scored in his entire
rest of his career combined. Yeah.
I mean, part of the issue on that is like Trevor Lawrence is
gonna rush at the goal line a good amount.
So like, I don't think anyone's getting 17 rushing touchdowns on
the Jaguars. Like Lawrence is 6 foot 6 and
was used a lot. That sounds like a goal line
rushing option inside the five and like I would continue to
probably do that. It was really successful last
year. He.
Had what, 9 last year? Maybe.
I still want Lawrence to be more willing on those key plays like
the Josh Allen stuff than he is, but maybe that'll come.
I think they're a good bet to have the best record in the NFL,
Jacksonville. So yeah.
But like Rodriguez, he he never what he had.
He peaked at 60. No, he had 79 yards in one game
last year. Didn't score.
He had 656365 again, like he just last year.
They they traded Brian Robinson there.
They did that in part because they were more impressed with
Jacory Krosky, Merritt in in preseason than they were with
Rodriguez. We thought Rodriguez might
actually kind of start hot. He was.
He was a healthy freaking stretch dude, he started.
On the bench, he started in the water in the press box.
So. It's like, yeah, I mean, he
looked better down the stretch. He he had he was at he was like
decently efficient in some of the advanced numbers as well.
You. Know you know who had like a
really good six game stretch to end a year after being waved 90
times? Sincere McCormick Zamir White
This is this is fucking Zamir White, dude.
Enough already, man. I'm just not.
I'm not having what was. Athletics go.
Let's go. Do you remember?
Two years ago when Zamir White went in like the sixth round,
like that was like an Alzheimer. That was that was like a it's
Week 2 and everyone just realized like, yeah, we, we are
cutting. Our Round 6.
Pack like oops over like the the market has the tootin price
right. And I, I mean, I think part of
it is certainly that drafts are so.
What? Is the right word for it.
It just feels like a lot of up uphill climbing like like after
like to me like after like Tooten and and Price and like
Christian Watson go, I'm like, well, the next 12 picks just
suck. Like every pick I take just like
feels bad. So, like, at least you can say,
well, at least Chris Rodriguez is gonna be on the field for a
good team. Yeah, my, I think the, the point
of the first six rounds is to, or the first, depending on where
you are, I guess the first five rounds is like you should, you
should feel good enough about drafting like Jaden Daniels or
Drake May or Jalen Hurts in that like that's, that's probably my
favorite way to play. And then maybe you get Makai
Lemon in the 7th. That's a nice fun little, little
treat there. So you get that that's kind of
the the best way to go, I think, because it's just it's not a fun
range. And if you do have to, if you're
like, I think I need Juba here. I think I need Pollard,
Ramandre, those types of guys. God forbid you need a receiver
that's not Makai Lemon. That's that's a tough spot to
really feel like you need a receiver.
Oh yeah. When, when Marvin Harrison is
off the board and Jordan Tyson is off the board at receiver,
like, and then especially if Lemon is off the board, yeah, I
I like don't know what to do. Like I'm, I'm pulling like
Marvin Anderson, but I'm pulling up Titan Reed.
I'm not even. That much of A Parker Washington
hater, but yeah, if. If you if I saw someone in that
spot take Josh Downs, I'd be like totally fair.
I get it. It's the same pick.
Is it, you know, like why, why couldn't you take Josh Downs
there? You could.
You're in the Josh Downs tier, you.
You know you. Are, I'm sorry, I'm, you know,
not that it's ADP speaking. Of Josh Downs tier.
It looks like rough you you've you've completely frame marked
me on Jayden Reid and I I have to like go to go to church and
repent for my sins. Like I can't.
I can't believe that I'm getting out outranked on Jayden Reid by
leg up. Like I I feel like I just got an
adult circumcision. Sorry man, I'm just trying.
I'm just trying to rank players well.
There's. That word again, Yeah.
He'll be, he'll be moving up, bro.
He'll be, he'll be, he'll be moving up.
He'll be moving up. And.
I'll be feeling more sensation in.
Certain parts of my. Body as I move him up M.
OGGED mogged for the first time in 19 years.
My hockey team's in the second round.
I got to be mogged by Jacob tonight with his Leaf stuff
because they won a lottery. That's enough.
I'm not. I'm not that's.
True. You got you got lottery mogged
bro. You literally got lottery.
Mogged, Leaf Mogged for the first time in 20 years.
The Leafs are a joke. The Sabres are good.
Let me represent. Hey, we're we're supporting.
We're supporting the. The Sabres over here.
Who's mogging? Who's mogging whom?
Who's mogging whom new mugs I.
Will not be mogged. I shall not be mogged.
Take the. Visor off.
You can't wear two teams at once, so buy Padres for tonight.
Samir is when? You talk to Trey Tucker.
That's that is true. Unfortunately, that is
unfortunately true. You guys talked to Trey Tucker
because I haven't even like contemplated this guy's
existence, to be honest. But you have you have him ahead
of ADP and I consider you a wise and knowledgeable man.
So tell me why that's not ridiculous.
So the here, I don't know if you guys know this, but NFL teams
play 2 upwards of three wide receivers on on.
Every snap. Not if you watch the NFL Draft
this year, buddy. To learn Marlon Klein and Pat.
Green and and this particular NFL team has a wide receiver
room of Jack Besh, Deonte Thornton, Jalen Naylor and Trey
Tucker. And Trey Tucker plays outside
and runs a lot of deep routes and it's kind of done that
pretty consistently for a few years now.
He's a third round pick. He's he's managed to kind of
secure a starting receiver spot for a few years.
He kind of fits. The.
Like Rashid Shahid style receiver for for Kubiak.
And like obviously the target earner, the the guy who could
just dominate targets away JSN did is Bowers.
But I think there's probably room for, you know, a wide
receiver to do some stuff. And right now it's it's Tucker.
Now they could sign Diggs or Jennings or Debo or something
like that. But those guys are all slots at
this point, including Diggs. And so like Tucker's route.
There's not really going to be a slot in this offense.
It's going to be everything's going to be so condensed.
Tucker's routes, regardless of whether or not they sign those
guys, I think are pretty unaffected because Naylor's a
slot, Besh is probably like a big slot, not very good.
So that probably doesn't even matter.
And then Thornton is just worst Tucker.
And like Thornton or Tucker does seem to have been impressing his
coaches. I asked Coach Beacon next, Greg
Brandis about this and he he pulled out a quote where they're
like, what jumped out to you today?
And they're like the way Trey Tucker approaches the game.
And it's like, so it's like, you know, pretty open it like what
what have you been thinking about?
And you just like Trey Tucker and how good he is.
You know, so they I think he's I think he's impressed them and,
you know, kind of secured one of those outside wide receiver
spots at least headed into the season and the the competition's
so weak that he probably, you know, holds that down.
By the way, you have a little trivia.
Yeah, let. Me, let me be, let me be.
That's. Interesting, 'cause I, I just
view that as like, I'm Jalen Naylor got a, a like
preposterous contract, but like he did get legitimate money.
So to me, I'm like, he's one of their two receivers, say.
Say the line, Pat. Tucker would be What's the line?
You can't pay someone to be good.
Can't pay someone to be good, OK.
I mean, like Naylor's not good, but like neither is any receiver
on this team. So I'm just kind of it's
including Trey you. What so?
I'm kind of looking at it as like one of the spots is the
Jalen Naylor spot because they just paid a bunch of money, and
then the other spot is like maybe Tucker, but it also could
maybe be Bash or it could be one of the three.
Agents I. I completely on the edge to me
I. Completely disagree.
I I think that the the it's the Naylor spot.
That could be Trey Tucker or that could be Jack Bash.
That could be Dante Thornton. That could be a learn a name
situation like or or. Jennings like that's I think or.
Jennings Well, that's but that's my career.
I think it'd be Naylor and Jennings, and then I don't.
Think there's I don't. I don't think you can run an
offense with Naylor and Jennings as you're 2 outside receiver.
That seems kind of, but no. One's playing outside the hashes
in a Kubiak offense. Like everyone's going to be
tight to the formation. Like, I mean, I mean, they had
JSN obviously is like a special special player, but like Kubiak
just ran an offense last year where their best receiver was a
career slot receiver who they played more outside but also ran
out of a lot of condensed sets. Cooper Copper as a slot
receiver, they played in a bunch of condensed sets.
You. Have some news about Cooper?
Yeah, he was Cooper Cock. Last year indeed, watching James
and mog him. Yeah.
But I mean, in New Orleans, you know, you have, you had kind of
the offense running through 2 outside wide receivers and
Shahid and Olave. And I think with with Bowers as
being like the clear guy that you want the offense to run
through, would it make sense to to have, you know, some guys
drawing coverage further outside if you're trying to open up
space inside? So, I mean, I'm not saying
Tucker's going to be like some amazing target earner, but I do
think. He's just been a solid downfield
receiver, you know, in terms just kind of being able to hold
that job down. He's also been, I've been kind
of impressed that he's actually like developed into that role
because he's 59185 and he was kind of a underneath guy in
college and has developed into more of a deep threat in the
pros. So, yeah, I think he's, it
doesn't surprise me that, you know, apparently he's got a
really awesome approach to the game.
And, and it's kind of like a, a guy who like impresses coaches
and stuff 'cause he kind of learned a new style of play in
the in the NFL compared to what he was doing in Cincinnati.
And so, yeah, I mean, to me, it's like you're down here in
this spot, everyone's kind of, there are no like surefire bets.
There's not a ton of like amazing picks, but this dude is
very likely to play. He's very likely to play.
And it's like probably the number one target share among
the wide receivers on his team. Now the caveat is the Bowers
going to have a huge tight end target share, but I, I would I
would take Tucker over the over this wide receiver crew,
barring, you know, them signing digs or something like that.
Before we move on, Arizona is next.
Just a quick look at their pass catchers tomorrow on the
channel, Pete will have a Dynasty mock draft special
that's at 3:30 with Dwayne McFarlane, late round, JJJJ
Zachariasen and Andrew Cooper. So you might want to check that
out. And by might, I mean you
absolutely should, assuming you're sick of the hockey talk
by then. When I get done with Ron McLane
at at 3 on the Odyssey app, jump over to Pete's channel.
This one I just say. Before you move back to
football, that you getting to interview Ron McClain means
surely nothing to Pat. But like, that's, that's
possibly the coolest thing I've ever heard.
He's now Patrick Roy. That's funny.
Like from. From the age of like 4 years
old, like I welcomed Ron McClain and Mr. Donald Cherry into my
home every Saturday at 7:00 PM Central time and just what a
pleasure. For those who don't know him,
he's Bob Costas, only way better.
Wow. Arizona.
Canadian Bob Costas. Yeah.
But that sells him short, I think.
Because you guys never got like the Coach's Corner experience in
America at all, right? Like, even if you were American
hockey fans. What?
About what about Canadian parentheses?
Complimentary Bob Costas. Hey.
Nice, it doesn't sound reaching. Reaching across the.
Line like complimentary but. I get it.
I get it, Davis. Like I know this won't matter,
so I knew the. Prince She loathes hockey.
But like Davis is a hockey fan who's maybe not quite as locked
in on, like, Canadian culture, a show like What does Don Cherry
mean to you? Like anything.
Yo, yeah, no Don Don Don Cherry. Don Cherry.
Sort of serves a role. I'm pretty sure it's Rory, isn't
it guys? It'd be like he's like, he's the
John. Madden of Canada, kind of I was.
Going to say more like inside the NBA style maybe, yeah.
Yeah, like a Charles Barkley. Yeah, I mean, he was, except,
except that unlike both John Madden and Charles Barkley, like
Don Cherry was like not actually a very good coach or player, but
but like as an announcer, similar role, Yeah.
I'm still hoarse from singing the anthem a week ago at the at
the Sabres game, which actually isn't true because I couldn't
even talk then. I wish I would have been able
to. It was so special and cool.
Arizona ready yet? Let's do it.
Are we scared of anybody?
What I'm scared of is I'm scared of Sid from Ice Age
quarterbacking the Arizona Cardinals and the money weeks
that that's what I'm. I'm big, big, big.
What's? This what's this this screenshot
here. This is Carson Beck snapchatting
a young woman that says, how about I show you the package and
we'll see how fast your calendar opens up.
You guys, you guys are probably not aware of this 'cause you're
slightly less online than I am. But Carson Beck was dating one
of the Cavender girls. I don't know which one.
The one that's not married to Jake Ferguson and then cheated
on her. And so, so a lot of a lot of
young. I.
Guess primarily women probably just like, hate Carson Beck.
Which is just kind of interesting.
Kind of just an interesting role for him to play societally, but
I do think he will probably be the Arizona Cardinals
quarterback in the money weeks. Yeah, it should be.
Really. Like, disconcerting.
Really. Really bad if you're a 2-3 turn
Trey McBride drafter. More like an anyone on the
Cardinals drafter. Like it's just like that is he's
better than Brady Cook, but not by that much.
Not. By that much.
Come on. Brady Cook is so bad, dude.
Brady Cook was a winning, but the.
Agree was better than Brady. I I believe Carson Carson back
is a winning college quarterback like like the one.
The one thing that you have to give Carson back is that he won
a lot of college football games. Did he just hold his own skills?
Like, no, no, no, he didn't. But like, did he?
Was he the quarterback of record for a lot of college football
victories? Like more, more than perhaps
anyone. Like he he was indeed winning
football games at college. Yeah, I just think like there
there's stuff that just like straight up like shouldn't have
happened to us as NFL fans. And like Brady, Cook is one of
those things. And I just subject to anyone
like that's Brady. Cook was closer to like Ian
Book. That's exact.
That's what I put like Ian book ended COVID, you know, like he
was that they stopped testing for disease because of Ian book
changed history. No, I.
Believe. I believe it was actually Oh
fuck. What was his name?
Kendall Hinton, I believe. I believe I I came away.
More impressed by Kendall Hinton than by you know, and I think, I
think if Kendall Hinton and Brady Cook had a quarterback
competition, I'm not sure how it would go I.
Think he'd think he'd gotten a chance, given that Brady Cook
was in the league a few years later.
I mean, he could have done better than that in.
Hinton's defense? He wasn't even a quarterback
anymore by the time they turned to him to play quarterback in
that one game, correct. You know, he had other skills.
The comps for back for me, his top comp was Drew Lock, AJ.
McCarron in the mix. That's like Nick.
Foles, Nick Foles, Kyle Trask you've never really seen play.
Davis Webb, Mason Rudolph, Brock Osweiler.
OK, these are quarterbacks who aren't very good, and he won't
be very good either. But I don't think he's like in
the abomination level. He's in the like the oh, Yep,
you're a backup. Oh yeah, this is, this is a
waste of a third, but I guess we needed a backup quarterback.
So we'll live with it. But we're definitely taking a
quarterback with like the number one through 5 pick next year.
OK, that's fair. I'll I'll I'll retract Kamarium
de Brady cook. It might be Dylan Gabriel ask
though it. Could it could be, it could be
that's a similar guy who like had some success, some actual
success in college and isn't good.
He's bigger than like the one thing you have to give.
And this is what the this is what the Cardinals are saying
about Carson Beck. What do you like about Carson
Beck? Man, he's big.
Sure is a big guy. 6 foot. 6 foot 5200.
And 33 lbs got 10 inch hands. My God, what a well built man
the. Issue is.
Like he. Used to, he used to be able to
like at least really RIP it, but then he had the UCL injury so he
doesn't have any juice in his arm anymore.
Like it's just, it's just dead whatever he throws to anywhere
outside the number. And that's why I think.
He kind of comps to like these like like Drew, yeah, Drew Lock
and and Mason Rolf and stuff 'cause he does kind of actually
pops to someone who like attacks deep well.
But he can't do it anymore. He's the problem.
Yeah. Like he used, he used to be
like, 'cause he's played so long in college that I think people
have the idea of him as like a, a ready made game manager, but
he's actually like an extremely reckless decision maker who no
longer has arm strength. Like Nick Foles.
Is he Old? Nick Foles?
He's. Late career.
Like. Like, he's not reliable.
Like, he's like, yeah, yeah. Like, like Hayden Winks comped
him to like, Vikings, Carson Wentz, like after all of the
injuries where it's like a guy who, like, really wants to
accomplish some things but doesn't have the ability to do
it anymore. But I would say Vikings, Carson
Wentz, it can get so much worse, as the Vikings found out last
year, that's true. Yeah, that's.
True, and they brought him back. He.
Was the best quarterback on the Vikings last year.
He was the. Best quarterback on the Vikings
They. Brought him back, No.
That's what I'm, I'm just trying to say like, I don't think this,
I actually think that the fall of Trey McBride and stuff like,
I mean, I, I, I'd rather have Bowers than McBride and have
been kind of following the market on that.
And now that it's flipped, I almost, I feel like a sense of
joy, like I'm like finally, like I just like I was gonna have to
like maybe like pretend that I liked McBride more than Bowers
because I'm being like prudent or some dumb shit.
No Bowers, baby, let's go. I'm I'm stoked.
But you know, McBride at the same time, if he keeps falling,
I'll be, I'll be pretty in on that too.
I I don't think Jacoby, like we already knew everything like the
Cardinals offense was going to be bad and they were going to
have pretty bad quarterback play.
I think Beck could basically be Bursetti.
You know, Bursett's nothing like he's not, he's not a guy you
actually want as your star. He could at.
Least be as good. Yeah, he could be.
Minshewy. So yeah, I don't want to
override. I like Marv.
More. I like Marv more than you guys.
I see his average rank is at 69. It's ADP 67 and I haven't met
62. So clearly one of you guys is
sewering the ranking. I want to.
I think about. It's my.
First year being in on Marv. Yeah, I I was thinking about
Marv yesterday. Like maybe, maybe we're a little
too bearish. These smiles here don't look
that natural. They think.
I think these guys know what they're dealing with.
If you look, McBride, Harrison and Wilson is the most
believable of the three. But the other two, like they've
taken 20 pictures already. And guys, please just smile once
they force that I. Think Harrison's is the most
believable of the three Do. You because.
Yeah, I think McBride looks like he's.
McBride looks like he's constipated or in pain.
He. Looks like he's in an he's
another interview is starting, but he's been in like this is
like the fourth interview of the day, like the new person's
walking in. He's plastering it on, but like
his eyes are like kill me. And then Wilson looks like he's
just like a stock photo, like he but you know, the shoots gone
away too long. He knows how to do it.
It's it's he's doing the thing. He's technically smiling, but
he's like, also, it's, it's true.
It's for some kind of photo shoot.
Harrison, I don't know, maybe that's just how he smiles.
Well, there's that possibility, McBride tops.
People have seen some shit. McBride tops the list of fall or
Zach Charbonnet. What did he do?
Braylon Allen, AD Mitchell. RJ Harvey Makes sense.
Algier. Devante Smith.
Mike Washington. Not a good draft result for him.
And then Christian Kirk makes this list.
Harvey dynasty wise, wonder what the takes are on him with
Coleman and Dobbins back. Yeah, right.
Yeah. It's not, it's not great.
I still take some Mike Washington just because I'm
pretty sure he's going to be a running back too there.
I take Kirk sometimes because I still can't really sell myself.
You. Want to talk about Zamir White?
This dude, though? Zamir White did actually produce
a little in his rookie season. There you go.
I mean, he's going to be the running back too on the Raiders.
I think so. He might be.
Might be someone like. I do think he's gonna beat out
like Davis's close personal friend Dylan Alby.
I would wait. Hey.
Dylan Alby's gonna make the 53, though.
Here's here's a really good here's a really good bet.
The next time AC Rod Bowl comes and really tries to get mad at
you, say, all right, I'll give you even money.
Tyler Algier touchdowns versus Chris Rodriguez touchdowns.
I don't understand the Tyler Algier price.
It's, I mean, it's, it's falling, but I still have no
interest. Yeah, I mean, running back 50,
whatever. He'll be the the running back
too for the Cardinals. Whatever.
I think you do have you know, it.
It depends, I guess, what happens with Conor, but it feels
like Conor would be like a fairly likely guy that gets cut
that that it also Conor is, I assume, someone that you know,
like find the Packers. Aren't I calling about Conor is
my new backup running back or whatever?
So he really might not be there. Benson, they clearly don't have
him in their plans. So not in the plans.
There's, there's some upside with Algier to be like a pretty
clean contingent bet. It's not guaranteed, which is
where, you know, we are behind market, but not, not a ton.
And I, I think we're it, it's getting to the point where it's
like, yeah, you know, Algier, I've actually seen him a little
bit in the Super flex stuff where, you know, building out
running back depth is, is harder and it's still important to have
it and it's harder 'cause you're spending early picks on
quarterbacks. So yeah, we're getting close to
where he's fine, but he's never going to be like a smash.
I struggle with Washington. I I don't know that I would say
if you want to talk about gentie's hurt and who who's the
lead back, it's probably Washington, but I don't think he
has like some awesome role and like who's going to play more
snaps this year? Probably Dylan Lalby.
I don't think Washington has any stand alone value.
I. Don't think he does either.
Probably not much, No. I mean, I don't think any.
Yeah, I think, I mean, I think whatever Kubiak wants to talk
about, we need 2 backs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
I would. I would bet that Ashton Gente's
week 1 snap rate is like 89%. Yeah.
To 100 percent, 100% well. That's good at least.
Finally we can see what that amounts to.
Gente in a full time role. Davis is prominent in the next
slide. Yeah, there's not.
Really much disagreement that we have here.
We're we're all pretty lined on these games these.
Guys all kind of. They're all just.
Yeah, I did, I I did, I did. I did just have a a player ID
error, a player ID error. The the 96 rank was way too
bullish. I talked to my guys.
We we headed back to a more reasonable consensus.
I'm like I'm like 5 spots ahead of who are.
Who are your guys Chat and Claude?
You 2 you. 20 we're your guys, you're.
My guys, we're your guys. Yes, big.
Fantasy. Yeah, we, we talked through, we
talked through the we talked through the Denver backfield
last week and I was like, OK, these these guys, I.
Was wondering if this is where, you know, as we talked about
Silva's not part of the cabal stuff maybe is he, is he the guy
on this call? Is he, is he making sure you
rank Coleman? I don't think.
I don't think I've ever seriously.
Disguised where to rank. Someone in basketball with Evan
Silva. Not, not one time, ever.
I mean, I do. I remain like to me the correct
ordering of the Denver Broncos running backs is that they
should all three be going between like pick 105 and pick
130. And I think the market will get
there with me eventually. And until then, I'll just have
to scape. I mean, right now Harvey is like
not clickable at all. Dobbins.
Dobbins I've actually been taking because I've just found
myself needing running back in that range a couple times.
And you can do a a NYX Dobbins stack, stack a Reno.
Not that Dobbins is going to be catching too many passes, but
just under the assumption that the Broncos score a bunch of
points in the games that the games that matter, yeah.
The games are that win, by the way, Denver.
Depends. Depends.
Depends on who you ask there. Reeves has been trying to tell
me Denver's best team in the AFC.
Really. So I mean, what are their
playoffs gonna? Be like.
Got to buy that minus I. Mean. 70 or.
Something like that they got. To be, they got to be high,
yeah. I mean, they had an unreal
defense last year that they lose John Franklin Myers, but that's
like, I think the only meaningful loss they.
Lost their quarterback bills. That's true.
They bring back well, but he wasn't the DC he was, he was,
that's right, secondary coach cuz Vance is still there.
And then they they have their offense is like basically the
exact same plus Jalen Waddle. So that's pretty good.
So yeah, I mean, they're they're not going to win as many close
games they won last year. But I wouldn't be surprised.
If they're like as good or better but they just don't have
the same level of results, like I could see them being the same
quality of team and winning 11 games instead of 14 but.
Yeah, I think that one concern I'd have with them just from
like a real life best team in the AFC perspective is that like
while their defense will be good, it was awesome last year.
And that's pretty volatile year to year.
It's hard to count on having like an A truly difference
making defense, even if you did the year before and you you
bring most of the guys back. So yeah.
And I and I think Joseph is really good DC and like that,
you know, but it's just, it's just tough to predict. -148 at
FanDuel you know which AFC team has the shortest odds to make
the play offs -370 through. The Ravens?
Yep. Yeah, Ravens would make sense.
That should. Be the It's probably the Ravens.
Yeah, they can't. Quit the Ravens.
No one can ever quit the Ravens. Well.
It's just that no one respects the the Bengals, the Browns,
it's a. Division.
Yeah, that's right. Pete brought up a good point
talking about the end of these drafts.
What are you guys seeing here? What to do in the later rounds?
How to avoid zeroes? This is this is what I was born
for. Dude.
Fancy zeros. This is what gets me out of
freaking bed in the morning. I like.
Zeros with the line through them.
I like to take my zeros with a little bit of one start by the
late. Rounds, You know, let's let's
just get started early, Xavier. Xavier Worthy 0 Bang it in by
Shell Dutton round 50 Let's go. You know I'm loving it, dude.
There's nothing like truly you could offer me two things you
could offer me. Every 18th round pick you take
is on the field and plays a game, but they never top 11
fantasy points in a game like you know that they never top
they they never get worse than 5, but they never get better
than 11. For your 18th round picks or for
your best ball Mania set, you can take 149 zeros.
But. One of your 18th round picks has
a 27 point game and leads their position in scoring one week I'm
taking option two, I'm taking door #2.
Every fun to the week. I'm not what to do.
I don't. Give a shit.
I'm just picturing Davis making that decision.
And then it's like Week 2 and his guy scores 27 points and
he's like, he's like Jon Burnfall been like, no.
No, no, no, no. Not this week.
Not this week, hey? The one but the one in.
The rest of the team and it's pure shit.
He's like. God no, but a.
One in 17 chance of the 27 point game coming in week 17.
I mean it's. Basically but but isn't it like
isn't it like 99% chance that your team would just be
eliminated before team? Would get that 20.
Seven point game it's. An 18th rock.
Pic Who cares? Take Taekwon Thornton.
Almost certainly. I took Taekwon Thornton in a
fucking draft today. Right, but your your odds of
advancing any one of your 150 teams to the.
To the final. Is like 10% so the odds that is
that team is like 10% / 150 and the odds that it's the right
week is is like 1 / 10 / 150 / 17.
Hey, that's. Funny, once you've made the
sale, stop selling. That's.
That's one in 10,000 and 50 I think based on my rough math
that's. Like basically my odds of
winning basketball mania anyway. I I guess fair enough honestly,
like non derogatory, that's fair I don't think.
What a hundred 150 entries out of?
Maybe they're better They're. Better would it be it'd be it'd
be 150 / 682,000 or 682,000 / 150.
Yeah. Here's some of my here's some of
my favorite zeros. Gunnar Helm is is obviously one
Zachariah Brandt. Gunnar Helm.
Travis Hunter is is far and away my favorite zero to take if you
good. For Pat, like he's he's leading
the pack, here he is. Just not capitulating to the
cornerback cabal and I love to see it.
Some other fancy zeros. Adam Randall.
Really good fancy 0. Oh I I took Oscar Delp in a
draft yesterday. Super Fancy 0.
You. You could take any one of six
Rams tight ends, Damon. Damon Claiborne.
I mean, Damon Claiborne might be the fanciest 0 'cause you're
betting against the Yeah. Claiborne is gonna be like such
a fun zero when he's inactive every week for Xavier and Scott.
Smash it dude. Smash that fucking button man.
You're. Gonna eat that W, You're gonna
eat a zero. You're gonna be like Jameis
Winston eating a 0. This is a fun list for the audio
listeners who I aim to service at all times despite having my
mic on the wrong input to start the show.
This is an awesome list because we have Jester Gunerhelm second
year player, Travis Hunter, second year player and
cornerback and then we have rookies Jeremy Bernard,
Zachariah Branch, Chris Brazil. This is our list of the players
that we collectively me Pat Davis rankings are on average
most out of ADP on post 150. This list also includes old men.
We have Aaron Rodgers, who is ranked basically only by me.
I have like dragged Aaron Rodgers onto this list single
handedly. But we also have Debo Samuel, we
have Stephon Diggs. And so like in the what a fun
list we're seeing. Rodgers, I literally just did a
top guy, 2 top guy drafts. He was on the second one.
You just click top guy on psychic every time he popped up
in Superflix so we don't hate him.
You know, I don't think I don't think it's great like because he
could retire. I don't.
It's not someone I'm trying to like make a big part of my he's
not. Gonna he dude if.
Aaron Rodgers fucking goes out without playing again.
Go ahead, Jacob, you're gonna say.
Do you? Think Aaron Rodgers Odds of
retirement are higher or lower than the odds of each of the
following being benched by choice in Week 15 through 17.
Geno Smith, Deshaun Watson, Jacoby Brissett.
Like, I, I, I, I just, I think that if all I need is Rogers to
play and once he commits to playing, like, I think he's
playing all 17 weeks, like, I don't think that the Steelers
are benching. So The thing is, I do think that
he does have some bench risk. It's not 0, you know, and it's,
it's not like astronomically lower than Geno Smith's where
you're basically saying like The Jets are dumpster fire, then
they're probably just gonna see what they have in Club Nick.
But if the Steelers are dumpster fired, they'll probably see what
they have an hour. Right, but I'm gonna go out to
being a dumpster fire. But those are.
Yes, yeah. They're probably the Steelers
they don't have. Tomlin anymore being, you know,
the deep. In the mid holds all all that's
totally fair yeah it. It it, it could crumble, though.
They they're pretty high on the list of like team that like, oh,
you know what, you know how Mike Tomlin got this team the wild
card round every year? Like, well, he's gone and the
teams and he picked the right year to leave because they suck
now, you know? Yeah.
So I don't know. I'm not sure.
Like, yeah. No, I mean, that's, that's
totally, that's totally possible.
But I I do still think like his, his odds of getting benched are,
are still materially lower than those other guys because I think
that just this team is going to be like, yeah, like it.
Could be bad stuff I. Mean it could be a bad but like
it would it would be like. My expectation for the Steelers
would be to win between 7 to 10 games.
My, my expectation for the, for The Jets and the Cardinals would
be to win like 3 games. So like, I'm, I think percent
and Geno's odds of being benched are like pretty darn high.
Like, I, I, I would say it's, it's under 50%.
They're playing in the fantasy playoffs.
I would go I. Would love to say that I'd.
Say that for percent. I'm not sure I'm there on Geno
but maybe same. Same I've been.
I've been drafting Geno so I hope you guys are right.
I would love it so much if Pittsburgh were terrible finally
for once, and then they would get a high draft pick and I'd
feel the way I feel tonight about the Leafs, which is like,
of course they did. Finally.
They're bad. They missed the playoffs one
time and they pick first overall and get their next superhero,
Crane. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I
believe that the year that you won Basketball Mania, one Mr.
Will Fuller was your most drafted player.
I think Rashad White was my most drafted player that year.
Yeah, someone just mentioned Will Fuller in the chat as as it
pertains to to Mr. Aaron Rod. I'm nearly certain Rashad White
was my most drafted player because I wasn't drafting a lot
of Brady and building it through the passing game.
But that the team that I won with was was like kind of a, you
know, a reverse to what I was typically doing, which is
playing it through Rashad White, which was his rookie year.
He did. He wasn't.
He kind of like he was fine. He didn't really pay off in a
big way. Yeah.
Next up is choose your fighter. Woody Marks, Keaton, Mitchell,
Taije, Spears What's the Game? I.
Mean, I think we. All know, I think we all know
where I stand the game. Is the game is that Lenaris has
found a running back that each of us likes more?
And. So I'm I choose Taije Spears.
I think his I think his backfield is the most ambiguous
I. Like the I like the 4th
category. I, I give him a not a high
chance, but I give him a, a definitely non zero chance of
like being the lead back for the Titans over the second-half of
the season by choice. I I think it's low, but I think
the other two have pretty close to 0 percent chance of that.
That's on, Marks did. Brian Dabel print out a wanted
poster for Tajay Spears when he got the job and then present
that to the coaching staff. Yeah, I don't want to be on
March really. It's like, you know, we did, we
did all the stuff and it's like Mark's basically probably some
stand alone value and I'm not 100% sure these other guys do,
but I do like your Spears take that.
Maybe he he has some some it is the most ambiguous.
Like, I do think that Montgomery is is going to be playing ahead
of like. Pollard.
Pollard could just be done right.
Like Pollard, it's also a. New coach, like it's a new
coach, new OC like there's like, I don't think it's likely, but
like there's some chance that Dabel shows up, Salah shows up.
They have no obligation to any of these guys.
And that like Dabel watches camp, he's like actually, I like
Spears more than Pollard. Like it's it's not it's not what
I bet on, but it's it's like in the range of outcomes compared
to the Texans wash marks all last year when.
I'm mostly a kind of the lower marks based on this stuff.
I'm not I'm not sure. I think I'm with the bearish,
the bearish rank on the other two guys relative to ADP, but
because that's like I'm not trying to invest in the Titans
too much. And I think, like I said, I
think Singleton could could complicate this situation for
Spears. That's possible.
So. I I.
Have I have 20% he might. Just be a little hot big.
Board so like he he just clearly has gone up a lot in price I
think since then by like 2 rounds because I was drafting a
ton of him early. Ready for last call.
So I missed last week. What about the last call before
the draft? Is that just warm up?
Is that was that a thing? Yeah.
That was just the tip. OK, it's just.
It's just the tip apparently. Yep, that.
Meant nothing unlike this. Correct it.
Meant nothing. Unlike this.
This is this is for all the marbles.
ADP of 200 or higher. I guess I might have to pick
twice, so I should probably go last I.
Believe you were given F to Chisholm I.
I was yes, and I haven't figured out what to do with it yet.
I'm. Trying.
To find a role for him at this. Point Can I go right?
Now he plays every position, yes, Yeah.
All right, I will take Aaron Rodgers.
Oh, did he fall into 200? He.
Fell to 200.5. Damn it, this is bullshit.
You haven't ranked forty spots behind me.
You're a little bit. Let's go.
See, This is why you can't let her You're.
A You're a terrible person now. No shame or principles.
I was. Gonna say now we're fucking mid
maxing A literal loser game that has zero win equity game.
With different rules. I agree, it's the first time Pat
has ever picked a player that was 2. 100 I usually pick some I
drafted. I drafted 42% of Aaron Rodgers
in the big board and now I'm rooting that he retires.
He's. Literally 200.5.
I'm literally like praying for his retirement.
I'll sacrifice any chance of winning the big board just so
Pat doesn't get away with this. He's a good.
Person I let him take him and but the bank examiner and the
whole thing the family. Won't leave, you know.
EU haul trucks, all of it. Just watching it before my eyes.
This. Is so gross.
I'll take care of you all. Right, well, I'm going to do
something I'll take. Sugar.
Well. That's fine for you to take
sugar you. Can have sugar.
I'll I'll do something I'll do. I'll commit a worse crime.
I'll take Tua Tag of Iloa. I'll walk up the Atlanta
Falcons. No.
Mike just said that. Mike just took him.
Mike. Just took him, Mike.
Took him, Mike. Just took him.
It's fine. That's a good last.
I will take Chaders. I'll take Chader Sanders.
What is this? Mike said.
I'll take Tua. I say I'll take Chader.
You try to take Tua and then you try to take Chader.
You can have Watson. You're going to make me do this?
I'll take Deshaun Watson. Oh my God.
I'm sure his name won't appear as Deshaun Watson next week on
this chart, no? It won't.
No, you can have Mr. McGee. Mr. McGee, OH.
My. God that was horrible.
I just like I knew exactly who I wanted to take and I got double
sniped. Oh.
Davis is well, I was going to take two if Mike didn't do it
first too. Davis.
Doesn't listen to the other hosts.
I'm just now hearing this for the first time.
Jalen Milro still on board, by the way, or anybody else?
Oh man. Available.
David Davis should have tried to take Aaron Rodgers that that
would have been the only way. All right.
So you guys are all done? Yeah.
Throw me Zachariah branch to stack with Tua.
I don't he might be he. Might be out of.
He might be out of OK, there you go.
Wow, people, people are not subscribed to think about
thinking and Davis Maddock and clearly if he's going to I
think. Crane even has to steal that.
To steal. Yeah.
He's. Using the last code, Sean wants
to not to say credit. Man, I thought it was a bit.
Until he didn't say Rogers. That's so good.
Everybody being rewarded for staying to the end, which is
true. Yeah.
All right. Pat, what's next for you?
Jacob, what's next for you? Nope.
Go Pat. Nothing.
I was just gonna like, talk about the Leafs again.
So go Pat. What's next for me, apparently,
is let's listen to some hockey talk.
But before that, yeah, make sure to take out chip chasing
tomorrow. What time did we did we decide
on? 3:30 Eastern Time right?
3:30 Eastern Time and we're doing a post draft rookie mock,
Dwayne McFarlane, JJ Zacharisen, Andrew Cooper all joining us.
So check that out. It's been really fun.
I'll be back on Thursday with Sam Sherman for our our show.
That's fair. We'll be debating some players
and then drafting the team and then, yeah, but doing a coach
speak index show every Mondays right after Pete's Best Ball
breakfast and a mailbag show that I just that I do right
before this every week. So you can check that out.
And then, yeah, got all the rankings articles over on
Legendary Upside, Sidekick dynamic rankings,
legendaryupside.com/sidekick. Matt Irby's going to have an
article up on the site tomorrow morning doing dynasty running
back cells, and I'm working on someone quarterback dynasty
rankings for the next dynasty update, which I hope to have out
later this week. Yeah, check it all out.
Well, all my rankings are updated, Dynasty rankings are
updated. We just did a fun dynasty points
show that'll be out tomorrow. And then I also now have
DraftKings rankings up on thinking about thinking in
addition to underdog rankings. Davis.
All my stuff good and updated on Flock fantasy.com.
I I have a cool video coming out.
I'm in these high stakes dynasty leagues on FFPC, these twelve
50s. I just went through the first
couple of rounds of what happened in them 'cause it's
just kind of interesting to see it is.
Like. The it's a lot different.
I I did catch Karain and Sean. So we're in a 1250 together when
I Co owned with Dink and Leonie and we were playing chicken with
who is going to trade up for Taje Spears and Sean and Pat
traded up for someone and I was like, well, it's got to be
Spears. They're trading up for cause Pat
fucking hates Jacoby Lane. And then we took Spears, and
then they took Jacoby Lane. That was a shot.
That was a Sean move. Yeah, I.
Knew that was a Sean move have. You seen any veterans go in the
first round? By the way, I took one at 1:09.
No, I've seen as early as 13 though.
Haven't seen one gonna go in the first round yet.
I took. JCM at 1:09.
This is. This is like in a in.
A rookie draft with veterans included, you mean?
I think A5, yeah, but. It's FPC, you have to cut down
to 16 players, so yeah. I'm in one, I'm in one that's
not FPC, but like there's a, there's a cut down and there's
like only two waiver runs. It's the one that Davis is in
too. And I I cone it with Gretch and
Siege took Malik Willis at the 1:10.
Oh, I mean, I would take Malik Willis at like the one six.
I think I. Know he almost made it to us we
were because we we ended up taking Cooper at the 111 and and
Gretchen and I were were on the had.
Had I realized that Malik Willis was in the player pool, I might
have tried to have This is so I'm in.
I believe I've done 10 rookie drafts.
I have made two first round picks.
They were both Kenyan Sadiq and by and large, I, I, there were
two drafts. I traded 3 drafts.
I traded all my picks entirely. I just said I'm out, I'm out.
I'm not, I'm not taking any. I'm not going to look at Chris
Bell and my roster for next three fucking years.
I'm. Just.
Done. I'm out.
Stribling if anybody out there, dare I say anything?
Stribling have taken stribling once get.
Sick of fantasy football tomorrow on the Odyssey app
before mentioned Ron McClain, Ross Tucker as well.
And then game one Sabres, the committee in Buffalo.
Thanks everybody. Nice to be with you guys again.
We will talk next week.