1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:04,600 Good evening, good evening. Night three of playoff week here 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,520 on ship chasing. On Tuesday night we revealed the 3 00:00:07,520 --> 00:00:09,400 boomer opto with Hassan and Blair. 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,240 Last night we revealed Pat's ownership projections. 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:15,240 And tonight we got a stat chasing crossover episode with 6 00:00:15,240 --> 00:00:17,280 Draco and Sacrilegious. And we're going to cover a lot 7 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,800 of ground tonight where you're going through three different 8 00:00:19,800 --> 00:00:21,760 playoff formats, going to do some NFC. 9 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,960 We haven't talked about that yet on the channel. 10 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:25,640 They have a really fun hold em contest. 11 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:28,480 We will of course get in the underdog streets, draft a couple 12 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:32,720 teams there and get updated FFPC thoughts with the stat chasing 13 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,960 guys in the saddle. With us it's ship chasing 14 00:00:34,960 --> 00:00:40,400 playoff week. Let's go Pat Fryer helmos. 15 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:45,120 This is why This is why I'm hot. Anita Handjob. 16 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:47,520 Fix your sight, Jamar. And. 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:53,080 Alpha play Chase. You can't handle the heat. 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:54,960 It looks like we're. Finally at this point here, 19 00:00:54,960 --> 00:01:04,200 right? All right, this feels monumental 20 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,320 because we've done various configurations of shows 21 00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:10,200 commingling, but I don't think the five of us have ever formed 22 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:13,080 the ultimate ship chasing stat chasing Voltron. 23 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,240 So welcome, Sacrilegious and Draco to the show. 24 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:21,240 Did we did we not get Voltron together for our our main event 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,920 draft? You're right, I just blocked out 26 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:25,520 how bad that team was. I forgot that that. 27 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,000 Happened. Yeah, sorry to bring that up. 28 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,200 That was before Scott Chasing became the flagship show. 29 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,160 So this is the first time that that the guys have invited us to 30 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,720 the flagship show. Yeah, so much has changed since 31 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:39,640 then. No, you're you're right. 32 00:01:39,640 --> 00:01:42,560 I completely forgot about our Travis Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes 33 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:44,600 start. But this is where we get even on 34 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:47,320 Mahomes and Kelsey guys, right? Playoff contest. 35 00:01:48,200 --> 00:01:49,400 Draco. Draco. 36 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,920 How are you doing tonight? Doing great, Doing great. 37 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,800 Thanks for having us on and excited to get into. 38 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:59,920 I know we have a lot of a lot of different things to talk about. 39 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,440 For sure. And yeah, and as always, thank 40 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,920 you guys again for all your great work on stat chasing this 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,520 year. Just an absolute smash of a show 42 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:12,760 you guys did great work with that ended up becoming, you 43 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,800 know, a key part of my process each week. 44 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:17,320 So thank you guys for all of that. 45 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,560 Let's start with the NFC Hold em contest. 46 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,720 I know we're all kind of relatively new to this. 47 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,960 I did one with Davis last year where I let Davis take the reins 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,600 and I didn't know enough about the contest to kind of check him 49 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:33,920 on all of his bullshit. I'm excited to dig in a little 50 00:02:33,920 --> 00:02:36,680 bit more this year. Sacrilegious. 51 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,080 Have you gotten to to touch base on this at all? 52 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:43,160 Yeah, I looked. I mean, I I like looked at it 53 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:45,480 last year. I didn't end up playing any last 54 00:02:45,480 --> 00:02:48,840 year because for me, by the time we got to this point in the 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,960 season, my brain was pretty melted from doing all the 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:56,400 playoff best ball drafts and then getting all my FFPC contest 57 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,000 teams, you know, tinkered with and submitted. 58 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,360 It's like, you know what? I'm just gonna pass on this one 59 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,400 this year, but familiarize myself with the rules. 60 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,960 Have thought about it a little bit, but you know, have not 61 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:09,400 spent a substantial amount of time in the lab on this one. 62 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,400 Yeah, Gretch, how about you? I know you're you're new to this 63 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,400 one a little bit too. Have you ever done one of these 64 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:18,600 before? I have not, no. 65 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:22,280 I looked through the the rules. It's definitely an intriguing 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,480 contest. I like some of the layers of it. 67 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,560 I was talking a little bit with with SAC and Draco over the last 68 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:29,360 few days, just about some like initial. 69 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,400 Thoughts. I'm excited to to actually like 70 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:36,560 strategize a little bit more on on this show, but no, I've never 71 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:41,360 done it. It does look fun, and it looks 72 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,960 sufficiently complicated where the actual strategizing in the 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:47,920 game theory of A can provide a real edge. 74 00:03:49,200 --> 00:03:51,280 Pete, do you have a link to the contest, just in case? 75 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,400 You know. Anyone's unfamiliar with the 76 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,280 rules, not me, and I don't mean me, but just in case, ever. 77 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:03,080 Yeah, I just dropped it in. The name of the contest is NFFC 78 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:06,760 post season hold em. And so you know one of the just 79 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,680 main differences is you're actually going in and setting a 80 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:13,560 line up each week. It's not you know, the set it 81 00:04:13,560 --> 00:04:16,040 and forget it. Like FFPC, you set your line up, 82 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:17,880 it's locked. You know, underdog, you draft 83 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,320 your team, it's locked. This one you go in. 84 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,640 There's also multipliers the further along the players go, 85 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,400 and then there's kind of some wrinkles of you're wanting to 86 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:31,320 keep optionality because you can use players that you necessarily 87 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,480 haven't used earlier in the contest. 88 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,320 So there's like all kinds of wrinkles and directions you can 89 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:40,040 go here. That first or that that element 90 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:43,240 about the multipliers and and why it's called the hold em, I 91 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:46,680 think is a really is a key. Just having like again have not 92 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,200 having played it, but having scanned it initially, the first 93 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,000 round you can only play one player from each of the 94 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,360 different 12 teams you can see right there. 95 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,120 Or from 12 of the 14 teams. The second round you can start 96 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:03,520 to get up to two different players and then and then it 97 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,440 expands as there's fewer and fewer teams. 98 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,080 You can you can grab more and more players from those teams, 99 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,600 but the longer that a player is on your team, they get a 100 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:13,160 multiplier for their points each week. 101 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,000 So if you've had them on your team each of the four rounds, 102 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:20,400 you will get four times their Super Bowl score, correct? 103 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:23,040 Yep. Yeah, yeah. 104 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,040 And so you're trading off basically multiplier for like 105 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:29,280 optionality of getting to like move into players. 106 00:05:29,280 --> 00:05:31,560 You're like, holy cow, this team look incredible. 107 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,920 Everyone was fading them. Like, I want to get in on them. 108 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:36,520 Well, the people who got in on the ground floor get the 109 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,600 multiplier bonus, but they're also taking on more risk, right? 110 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,520 Right. And I think the the at the end 111 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:46,160 of the day you you start from the back to the front like the 112 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,760 the whoever scores the most points in the Super Bowl, like 113 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,600 who's going to win this. It's the person who has 4X on 114 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,520 the guys that are scoring the most points in the Super Bowl, 115 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,520 right. I mean and then you kind of work 116 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,920 back from there, but like I think that's a real key. 117 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:02,200 When what's the earliest that you can roster a Raven or a 118 00:06:03,840 --> 00:06:06,040 49er? You can roster them round one. 119 00:06:06,040 --> 00:06:07,960 You'll just eat a zero for round one. 120 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:09,720 But I I'm pretty sure you want it. 121 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,280 Unless you're fading those guys. You want a roster 1. 122 00:06:13,280 --> 00:06:17,040 Raven 140 Niner. And in particular with running 123 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,280 back being so thin, I kind of feel like Christian McCaffrey is 124 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:23,880 the guy when you do, you know you can only do one from each 125 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,920 team. But McCaffrey is a is a pretty 126 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:28,920 obvious one, I think. I think he's gonna be in a lot 127 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:33,400 of teams. There's three starting running 128 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,920 back spots. So your your RB3 opportunity 129 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,280 cost is what like 12 points from Aaron Jones, like, I mean it's 130 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:43,320 not, it's not a lot, right? And now you get 2X3X and 4X on 131 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,720 Mccaffrey's next three games. You know what I what I really. 132 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,040 Want you can add a 49er in the second round right once you 133 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:50,440 yeah. That's what I was gonna say you. 134 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,120 Can you can? Get your second piece. 135 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:58,360 So I I haven't thought a ton about this, but it it came to me 136 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,840 as, like, I think this could be a cool contrarian thing. 137 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,640 You don't have to lock everyone, right? 138 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:07,600 You know, just like we're FFPC, it locks when the first playoff 139 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,200 game starts, right? But here you have like the 140 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,600 ability to do this kind of late, swap DFS style with it. 141 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,120 And I think you can do that really sharply with the Ravens 142 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:23,240 and the 49ers. And so the way that I would 143 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,520 think about doing it is if you get very behind instead of going 144 00:07:27,520 --> 00:07:31,400 to X Lamar at you know, getting Lamar with your first multiplier 145 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:36,120 stacking, I think you go to Gus Edwards and you like if you're 146 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:38,440 already behind the 8 ball, you're just like give you Gus 147 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:39,960 Edwards. It doesn't mean you're fading 148 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:41,960 Lamar. You're just saying that in the 149 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,120 Super Bowl. It happens to be one of those 150 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:47,560 games where Gus gets 3 rushing touchdowns and Lamar does just 151 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:51,400 OK and that's what bails you out from getting behind the 8 ball 152 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,000 if you're playing Ravens to the Super Bowl. 153 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,200 Yeah. And the other part of that, with 154 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,560 the roster not locking, this helps with Eagle stuff, right? 155 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,880 Or any of these injury situations where it FFPC you're 156 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:05,720 going to have to make some tough decisions on Saturday afternoon 157 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:07,800 most likely. Whereas with this like you'll 158 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,040 have a much cleaner picture of of who's playing. 159 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:16,280 Zach, why do you like Gus over Zay? 160 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:21,960 Like, to me, Zay's scoring range includes a higher ceiling in A1 161 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:23,960 game outcome. I mean, like Cus could have the 162 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:25,680 three TDs, but he doesn't catch a lot of passes. 163 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:29,120 He's got kind of that trappy profile Zay in the full PPR site 164 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,159 could have. It's it's like it's the really 165 00:08:32,159 --> 00:08:34,159 strong negative correlation on Lamar. 166 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:37,480 That's why I like it. And the fact that running back 167 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,280 is thin right Like wide receiver. 168 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:41,799 I can get whatever I need at wide receiver, but I have 3 169 00:08:41,799 --> 00:08:45,240 running back spots so. But you're going to be going 170 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:50,400 against a lot of Lamar 4X teams in the Super Bowl, so that 171 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:54,640 leverage is pretty key. Yeah, that's we got we got Henry 172 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,640 Muto in the chat, who's been playing it in his thesis. 173 00:08:57,640 --> 00:09:00,240 And I remember Davis saying this last year too that you're you're 174 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:04,080 trying to nail the two QBs from the Super Bowl because most 175 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,320 years they they score the most not always So that's probably 176 00:09:08,360 --> 00:09:11,160 how the the chalk is going to be right have. 177 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,720 Yeah, of course. If if it goes well for you in 178 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:16,640 the first games, like of course you want to roll the Super Bowl 179 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:18,880 QBs out. But I'm saying as a contrarian 180 00:09:18,880 --> 00:09:22,040 pivot, when you end up behind the 8 ball after the first wave 181 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,240 of games, that's what you that's the button you press. 182 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,160 But at that point, in terms of the CMC point I was making 183 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,400 relative to Purdy, it is interesting because when you if 184 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:37,400 you if you pull the CMC cord in week 1, then in week two you 185 00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:42,800 have CMC 2X, party 1X, then you have CMC 3X, Party two, CMC four 186 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,880 Party 3, it's each week actually. 187 00:09:44,880 --> 00:09:48,200 And same thing here with Gus actually it's going to be it's 188 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:50,480 not just the Super Bowl. You're going to have to have Gus 189 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,400 outscore him each of the next three rounds, or a you know, a 190 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,840 combination of the three because there are multiplier multiplier 191 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,680 gap each round. But you're only pulling that 192 00:10:01,680 --> 00:10:04,360 lever if you're a dog from from something else, right? 193 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,080 And I think you can get there with two, like the with how the 194 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,720 multipliers work. I think if you have two games 195 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:14,960 out of it where and even if it's like one of them, Gus and Lamar 196 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,000 are similar. You know Lamar maybe beats him 197 00:10:17,000 --> 00:10:19,240 by a couple. But like you're really just 198 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:21,520 hoping that in the Super Bowl that's the gut. 199 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,680 But again, you're you're only doing that when you're buried in 200 00:10:24,680 --> 00:10:28,320 the first round. I, I, I, I one thing that I'm 201 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:33,160 not quite sure on. So when obviously the Ravens 202 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:37,240 they don't play this weekend and so when is the last point that 203 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,440 you can switch around with your Ravens? 204 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,920 I get. I guess it's it's until all your 205 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,240 other players are locked, right? Yeah, it says Players on by 206 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:50,840 teams lock with the start of the last game of the weekend, which 207 00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:54,440 is Monday night. And so but the other thing is by 208 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:59,400 that Monday night you only have, what, 4 open roster spots? 209 00:11:00,040 --> 00:11:04,600 So your your maneuverability is is shrinking as the games go on. 210 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:10,360 So, so maybe if you had a potential pivot that you're 211 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:14,800 needing to make, you would plan that out with the players in 212 00:11:14,800 --> 00:11:17,680 that Tampa and Philly game as well. 213 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,080 So you'd be like swapping like for like potentially. 214 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:29,080 Or or or your your pivot could be CMC Lamar to Purdy Gus right 215 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,800 right that that's that's probably the the the simplest 216 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:35,560 way to do it but having pivots in in the loss available game 217 00:11:35,560 --> 00:11:38,640 obviously helps your. Just so I understand the format 218 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:45,880 fully, if your let's say the chalk bracket plays out, what is 219 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:47,760 sort of the optimal approach here? 220 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:52,960 I mean it sounds like it would be that we're taking not Purdy 221 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:57,280 in round one although you know the is that just because CMC you 222 00:11:57,280 --> 00:12:01,280 know such a massively high scoring running back that he is 223 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:05,000 sort of the exception of the rule but like you know there 224 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,400 would would or is there a case to to start Lamar and Purdy or 225 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,360 is it basically you want to start Lamar Allen CMC. 226 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:16,040 It sounds like Lamar and Purdy is what what Davis was saying 227 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,360 and and what sounds like Henry's saying, I don't know. 228 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:24,440 I was making the case. For multiplier is so big that 229 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:30,680 it's going to offset the early round zeros I. 230 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:35,080 I think the the question is. Which it out it out projects 231 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:39,200 like the next running back by at least 10 points, whereas I don't 232 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:44,040 think that's the same case for for for Purdy. 233 00:12:45,560 --> 00:12:47,360 Yeah, it's not. But in the Super Bowl it's all 234 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:51,120 flexes anyway. And I mean I think ultimately 235 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,760 the question of whether you go Purdy or CMC in round one is a 236 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:59,000 question of whether CMC or Purdy scores more raw points for the 237 00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:04,200 for the course of the playoffs. And NFNFC is favorable to 238 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,040 quarterback scoring. It's six points per passing. 239 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,200 TD, it's one point per 20 passing yards. 240 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,280 It's very favorable to quarterback scoring. 241 00:13:12,040 --> 00:13:15,440 I think, I mean, I think Purdy has a a pretty good argument to 242 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:18,040 just flat out score McCaffrey over there. 243 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:24,160 With the weather stuff in Buffalo, maybe that's the chalk 244 00:13:24,160 --> 00:13:26,680 build, right? Or the with with Purdy 'cause 245 00:13:26,680 --> 00:13:28,920 you're not as worried about missing out on this game from 246 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,640 Allen in Week 1. But the the McCaffrey, the thing 247 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,080 you just said I was thinking about as well, was McCaffrey 248 00:13:35,080 --> 00:13:39,280 Lamar Allen in Week 1. But in and then in round two, 249 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:40,880 you only still only have two quarterbacks. 250 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,640 So then you have to make a decision between Allen Lamar and 251 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,840 Purdy in the second round. Right away you you're not going 252 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,480 to be able to play all. So you're booting Allen for 253 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,200 Purdy. And yeah, so it sounds like you 254 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:55,200 want to start Purdy. Yeah, Muto says. 255 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,640 Similar to FFPC, you want your kicker and defense to lose in 256 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,880 first round. Any player you pick, you will 257 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:04,280 always keep them unless they they get hurt here. 258 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:07,040 Oh, so you can't even move off of Allen and Lamar? 259 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,120 So you kind of, you're kind of boxed out from 2 quarterbacks on 260 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,280 the Super Bowl. So Allen and Lamar kind of is 261 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:16,320 bad. It sounds like it if you're if 262 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,720 you're trying to play, to have your two quarterbacks in the 263 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:21,360 Super Bowl. But it could be fine if you are 264 00:14:21,360 --> 00:14:27,080 playing CMC and then I guess you're playing that Allen had a 265 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:31,640 really big week one and then doesn't do very much in Week 2, 266 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:35,200 which kind of feels like the opposite of what we'd expect 267 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:35,880 with. The weather we. 268 00:14:35,880 --> 00:14:38,840 Can't go to Purdy then you? You better hope Purdy just duds 269 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,800 'cause you you're locked out of Purdy in round two as well. 270 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:45,280 Yeah, well, no, you would dump. He's saying you would dump 271 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:46,640 Allen. You'd dump. 272 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,080 Allen Well, I thought Henry's saying you can't. 273 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:51,480 Well, you can. You don't. 274 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:52,360 Right. It's so you can. 275 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,360 You don't got it. OK, on NFFC, McCaffrey averaged 276 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:59,960 24.8 points this year. Purdy averaged 25.2. 277 00:14:59,960 --> 00:15:01,840 They were. They were very close. 278 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:04,080 Purdy was QB eight. There were several that were 279 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,040 higher scoring. They were at the .6 points per 280 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:10,680 game apart like it. It maybe isn't crazy that 281 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,640 McCaffrey can outscore him over three games even though the 282 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:16,320 scoring. So you could I So part of the 283 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:21,960 the outscoring is the offset of the the other quarterback or 284 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,120 running back that you take in round one that you're then 285 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:26,640 dumping. So like if you get if Allen has 286 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:30,640 a monster game in round one visa V whatever other running back 287 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:34,440 you take for the McCaffrey 0, the McCaffrey 0 has a lower 288 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,720 opportunity cost in the Purdue zero in round one. 289 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:39,320 That's what I'm trying to say. There is a small offset with 290 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,920 getting those Allen points and then McCaffrey outscores Purdy 291 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:47,720 by that range or or even if Purdy outscores McCaffrey, then 292 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:51,960 the the multiplier, it's it's, it's complicated, yeah. 293 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,120 The way I was thinking about it though, it's it's it's always as 294 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,360 long as you take one player or one week and then the next the 295 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,800 other player the next week, it's only it's there's only ever a 296 00:16:01,800 --> 00:16:05,240 11X difference. But you get more. 297 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:10,440 It's harder to go to Purdy in round two because you're giving 298 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:12,680 up that Allen. But you could get. 299 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,440 There. But you could instead play your 300 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:20,560 second quarterback, round one, as just a quarterback that you 301 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,720 think scores a lot of points in a loss. 302 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:27,880 Like if you think the Rams upset Detroit, you know, or or. 303 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,040 Yeah, Jordan Love makes a ton of sense too. 304 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:34,160 But if you think the Rams upset Detroit, maybe play Jared Goff 305 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:36,680 at home. Yeah 'cause that protects you 306 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:38,280 from getting buried by any other. 307 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,960 Like you advance round two and then you'd have to get off your 308 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:43,880 2X quarterback. You know, to another skill 309 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:46,400 position player there, you're gonna all of a sudden start 310 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:49,720 losing ground to people that get to keep their 2X skill position 311 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,480 there. So you do really want that to be 312 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:57,520 a team that loses Baker sounds Baker. 313 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:01,280 Sounds sick to me. So another another way to play 314 00:17:01,280 --> 00:17:05,599 this is if you wanted to go CMC, you pick the Ravens to lose and 315 00:17:05,599 --> 00:17:08,280 you don't play Lamar. You play CMC Josh Allen. 316 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,839 Then you add Purdy and you're not playing the Ravens to the 317 00:17:10,839 --> 00:17:13,200 Super Bowl. You build your structure 318 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:15,440 intentionally to not go Ravens Niners. 319 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,119 That's that's conducive to playing CMC. 320 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:25,880 So is that a Flacco build? Yeah, but it would be, it would, 321 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:27,800 it would be no. Flacco specifically because 322 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,360 that's who would go beat the Ravens. 323 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:30,520 Yeah. Maybe it's a? 324 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:32,800 Flacco build. That that is a Flacco build. 325 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,440 I change the no matter what you do. 326 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:37,480 Allen can go. Backs from opposite. 327 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,400 Confidence. Yeah, that's true. 328 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:42,600 Like you want, because then if that that comes into the 329 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:46,600 optionality of if they do advance, well, then at least at 330 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,880 least you have the option to keep them. 331 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,400 Like you can still play it that way, yes. 332 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,800 Just for the audio listeners here, I do have the starting 333 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,520 lineup requirements up. It's a pretty big starting 334 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:58,920 lineup. So it's the two quarterbacks 335 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,560 like we've been discussing, 3 running backs. 336 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:05,360 Then there's four wide receiver slash tight end spots and then 337 00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:09,600 one flex spot that includes running back, team kicker, team 338 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,000 defense. And that was the refresher 339 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,680 Gretch was mentioning. NFC scoring different. 340 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:17,720 Famously not tight in premium but you do get that six points 341 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,600 her passing TD, which yeah, I. I missed this wide receiver 342 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,840 slash tight end element as well. I was trying to think through 343 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,720 how tight end would fit, but that's interesting. 344 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,480 I mean that's obviously tight end, very weak this year. 345 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,160 It kind of just like takes out tight end. 346 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,320 We don't have to worry about it. I know, 'cause I was actually 347 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,440 thinking that Kittle would be kind of interesting in this 348 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,680 whole San Francisco conversation, but that's not 349 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,280 relevant. I it's interesting. 350 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,080 So OK, this comment from Henry saying you really want your 351 00:18:45,080 --> 00:18:46,720 kicker and defense to lose because then you're depriving 352 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,640 yourself a position player, getting the the the multiplier, 353 00:18:49,640 --> 00:18:56,080 the 2X multiplier. And that's because basically a a 354 00:18:56,080 --> 00:18:58,880 skilled position player opposite that kicker and D was 355 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:00,920 eliminated. Is that is that basically why? 356 00:19:02,360 --> 00:19:05,960 Yeah, yeah. Or you you faded A-Team. 357 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,360 Or you faded A-Team A-Team that advanced. 358 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,920 Yeah, well, if you have a skilled position player opposite 359 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:14,080 that, you're a kicker, 'cause you're you're soft fading the 360 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,080 kicker and you're playing the skilled position opposite them, 361 00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:20,120 your kicker getting eliminated means your skilled player. 362 00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,480 Right. So you have Omari, Cooper and 363 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,240 Kaimi. You really want Kaimi to get 364 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:26,360 eliminated? Yeah. 365 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:29,120 Yeah. That's very similar to the FFPC. 366 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,680 Yeah, how we how we play the first round the the Flacco thing 367 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,440 I think doesn't work for the anti Ravens. 368 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,320 One 'cause you have to be able to add Purdy in round two. 369 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:44,680 If you did CMC Allen, you need Purdy Allen as your two QB's in 370 00:19:44,680 --> 00:19:48,240 round two. Which means it doesn't matter if 371 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,280 it's Flacco or whatever. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm still 372 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,000 playing out the the McCaffrey Allen angle, but it like the the 373 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:58,400 second quarterback you play in round one is, is more or less 374 00:19:58,400 --> 00:20:00,240 irrelevant. I mean, maybe you do need him to 375 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,720 lose. I wasn't necessarily following 376 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:02,600 that point. For well, you don't. 377 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,040 It's it's not completely relevant, right? 378 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:10,520 Because like let's say you could have had digs and get a two or 379 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,680 three X multiplier on him when he goes to the conference 380 00:20:12,680 --> 00:20:15,160 championship game. So there is some opportunity 381 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:18,760 cost to starting over on the Bills, assuming that they do 382 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,360 make a run. So yeah, you're just what you're 383 00:20:22,360 --> 00:20:25,720 telling me is you start Flacco, ground one, and you just play 384 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,120 Flacco all the way through. Well, that's the thing. 385 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,640 You. Can't do that. 386 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:35,560 You can't play Flacco in the second round unless you play 387 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,720 Flacco out of the soup. And how good you think the 388 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,680 rounds are going to do. I've been dealing with this ship 389 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,080 for a month. Then you'll start to fall in 390 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,440 love. You're like, holy cow, Flacco 391 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:46,880 looked really good. And then you'll start looking at 392 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,520 that multiplier. And then you'll start telling 393 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,560 yourself a story. Next thing you know, your eye on 394 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:53,640 Flacco. I mean, I I asked Leonie, and I 395 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:55,640 know Leonie's going to do some NFC content too. 396 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,960 One thing he said was, I think bracket scenario planning is 397 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,560 important. Some of the best teams provide a 398 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,680 lot of apps, but some of the best teams provide a lot of 399 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,320 optionality where you could still maximize points even if 400 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:10,000 the bracket breaks a couple of different ways. 401 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:14,040 Primary goal is having one to 4X on the top 4 scoring players 402 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:16,120 from each side of the Super Bowl. 403 00:21:16,120 --> 00:21:18,280 In the end, a lot easier said than done. 404 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:22,720 So if there's clever ways that you can actually do like 2 Super 405 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:26,680 Bowl teams from one side, I mean maybe playing the McCaffrey 406 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,360 thing you're also playing. I mean, I don't know. 407 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:32,040 It's so tough cause in round two you have to add Purdy. 408 00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:34,080 I was gonna say you're also playing like Dak or something, 409 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,240 but I feel like you're all you. You you really. 410 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,360 What if you add? What if you add debo in the 411 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:41,640 second round instead? Wow. 412 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,800 Then you would need debo and CMC to outscore Purdy. 413 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:51,840 Yeah, any any other Niner build that makes it, you're gonna be 414 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:53,880 buying a. But that's that's the way you 415 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:56,720 have to do it if you're gonna not add Purdy 'cause you need it 416 00:21:57,160 --> 00:21:58,760 to come as rushing to. The right. 417 00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,640 Yeah, Yep, Right. Yeah. 418 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:03,480 The passing. Touchdowns are what are what 419 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,680 will bite you right format. So. 420 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,800 Yeah, it's fun too, because I think you can start to get a 421 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:12,840 little bit more granular with like your weekly takes, right? 422 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:16,440 Like you could be like, I really like a Chan against the Chiefs, 423 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:19,720 you know, run defense. But then maybe I want to play, 424 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,400 you know, pass catcher in their round two match. 425 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,360 You know, like you can start to really try to leverage specific 426 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:29,280 spots you like for for individual players. 427 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:32,320 I'm trying to think of like what are the specific ways that you 428 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:38,440 can keep multiple options open like I guess I mean you could 429 00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:43,960 play like Tyreek Hill and. I think it's, I think it's more 430 00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:48,760 similar in that regard to to how we're drafting for playoff best 431 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,640 while where you're trying to predict the conference 432 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,080 championship, right, Like you're doubling up in the second round, 433 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:56,800 you're doubling up on the conference championship teams 434 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,880 and you're concentrating your bets there instead. 435 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,120 So I think that's probably the way you do it. 436 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,360 There, there's there's. Eight teams left at that point, 437 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:13,200 and you can do 2 of of any team. So there will be teams where you 438 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,080 have two of and then other teams where you only have one of. 439 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,520 So that'll be something that you need to be smart about when 440 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,080 you're building out your different brackets. 441 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:25,800 Pete, I know we're we're talking about like doing doing one of 442 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,240 these and and like entering it at the end, but do you mind like 443 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,680 just clicking some names so we can start to work through a 444 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:33,320 build? Yeah, like before we even build 445 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,840 a real build so we can kind of think through some of the things 446 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,880 that it forces you to think through once you have a few 447 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:39,560 names in there because it's. Yeah. 448 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:46,000 It is we we do have Carson wins just staring at onto the queue. 449 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:52,640 So what will you, will you start with the CMC Allen One 'cause I 450 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:56,480 like let's just say we're doing Niners bills to the Super Bowl, 451 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,280 'cause I think this is sort of clean. 452 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:02,520 Yeah. So in terms of trying to keep 453 00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,640 multiple options open, would one move be to then play both sides 454 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:10,520 of the Lion's Ramsgate? Like play Almond Raw and I don't 455 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,600 know, Kyron or Amanat and Nikua or whatever, and then you're 456 00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:16,680 like whoever wins, that could eventually, I'll keep them in my 457 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:18,520 lineup. They could eventually face the 458 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,880 Niners in the conference championship. 459 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,360 Is that sort of like what you guys were saying, like to keep 460 00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:25,920 both options open? Yeah, I'm. 461 00:24:26,120 --> 00:24:29,520 As I think through it, 'cause I think you want to play for the 462 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:36,560 conference championship, so it's like if you do Rams and Lions, 463 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,360 then the Rams are gonna see the Niners the next round right 464 00:24:40,360 --> 00:24:42,960 away, right? Unless you get a Green Bay upset 465 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:44,600 as well. That's right. 466 00:24:45,240 --> 00:24:49,680 And so I think a different way to do it is you play the 4th, 467 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:54,120 you play both sides of the 4-5 like at a way higher frequency 468 00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:59,000 than you would in other kinds of contests because one all it 469 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,720 takes is 1 upset and those teams get to dodge the the one seed. 470 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,320 So I think we. Play. 471 00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:07,840 That's tricky too, 'cause if Dallas and Detroit both win and 472 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,320 they're both favored, then you're right. 473 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,040 You're sending your four five straight to to San Francisco. 474 00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,840 But it's higher. It's that's the highest 475 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:18,240 probability way you can do it to to maintain optionality if 476 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,640 you're trying to do it that way, right? 477 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:25,560 Yeah, we got the least crazy upset. 478 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,240 Yeah, yeah. I I think one other thing that 479 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,680 maybe not as important but I think you also want to be 480 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,480 careful about playing using two of your wide receiver spots like 481 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:39,960 against each other whereas the because the wide receiver that 482 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:43,840 that's higher scoring than tight end and running back and. 483 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,840 Tight end, right? Yeah, they're just. 484 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:51,480 Logged in. Oh oh OK OK my so well then. 485 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:55,560 Then running back and receiver like because the the the 486 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:59,360 receivers are gonna project higher than the the running 487 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:01,440 back. And so if you're if you're sort 488 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,160 of doing a bracket where you're guaranteed to lose one of your 489 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,560 wide receivers. Yeah. 490 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:11,120 Whereas if if you're playing two sides of it, you you wanna have 491 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:15,240 at least have the out where it's a running back you lose not not 492 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:17,560 the wide receiver. Yep. 493 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:20,960 Makes sense to me. And then round two, you still 494 00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:23,480 have 3 running backs, but then in and then what? 495 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,120 In the Super Bowl, it's all flexes, but for three rounds 496 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:30,920 it's this running back, wide receiver, tight end and then a 497 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,440 flex structure. Henry offers a couple keys here 498 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:37,880 in the chat and his key three, he says, nailing all four 499 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,920 winners around 2:00 to get times 3 on all four guys. 500 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:44,840 It does seem like getting the bracket correct, intentionally 501 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,120 making your picks to pick the games and then picking the games 502 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:51,520 right is a really big advantage because you're setting up all of 503 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:55,480 the multipliers right. Like the multipliers are so key 504 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,720 and to get the multipliers right you have to get the right guys 505 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,760 in line like you. You might be able to do both 506 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,080 sides of a specific game, but ultimately you want to like pick 507 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,520 a very specific bracket I think, and try to line up all your 508 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,240 multipliers all the way through. More or less. 509 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:14,560 You can kind of set your line up for the whole contest for that 510 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,720 bracket, you know, whatever your specific bracket is from the 511 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,360 beginning. Yeah, if we went through all the 512 00:27:20,360 --> 00:27:22,560 games right now and said we're picking this team to win, we're 513 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,200 picking this upset, we can set our whole line up right now, 514 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,240 basically. So it feels like in general you 515 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,760 should lean towards, unless there's a 27 match up that you 516 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,400 really like for an upset, you should lean towards picking one 517 00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:40,000 side of the three, six, you know, just pick one side of the 518 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:44,840 three six and fade the other side and then you you play both 519 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:48,960 sides of both 4 fives is the way that I'm leaning to do it. 520 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:53,120 'Cause the only way you really get burned by that right, is if 521 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,720 the 6th side, like goes to the conference championship for the 522 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,640 Super Bowl, and then people who have that are getting that extra 523 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,000 multiplier. And you can even pick the six. 524 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,200 I'm not saying like, oh, you got to pick the three, but it's like 525 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,640 just pick pick that one, right? And then you maintain the Max 526 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,480 optionality by picking both sides of the 4-5. 527 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:12,600 And then whichever way the bracket shakes out, whether 528 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:17,680 there's upset or no upset, you know you you end up with with 529 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:19,880 ways to pivot. At least you can bail yourself 530 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:22,240 out. So let's try to build out the 531 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,320 rest of this letter. Let's first like, say A bracket. 532 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,800 Like what? What? 533 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,800 What four teams do we want to play in the conference 534 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:35,800 championship for this one? Well, let's play both sides of 535 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,240 the four fives, I I think that was an interesting point and 536 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:45,720 then we can pick the 2736 games. We ought to go back. 537 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,440 Because like between the How do you want to pick the three 538 00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:48,600 sixes? Because that sound like the 539 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:51,760 biggest decision point. So who do you like between the 540 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,280 Chiefs, Dolphins and the the Lions? 541 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:00,880 Well, Tyrika's going to be overly popular, right? 542 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,960 Or or or at least extremely popular and. 543 00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,240 But a lot of people are gonna play both sides of that game. 544 00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,720 It would be interesting to play like like Pacheco and fade the 545 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,760 Dolphins. Yeah, or or Dolphins running 546 00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,880 back and fade the Chiefs. I think those are the two. 547 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:18,400 Yes, plays Gretch. Yep, I think you guys want to. 548 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,920 Go out of it. Yeah, that's for the Pacheco 549 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,440 side, the. Pacheco side's definitely less 550 00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:23,840 gross. And yeah, that's that's the 551 00:29:23,840 --> 00:29:25,000 thing. Like, if we don't play the 552 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,600 Dolphin side, like, we don't have to get overly cute with it, 553 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:28,760 right? We can just play the one that 554 00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,400 feels good. Yep. 555 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:36,480 What about the Rams Lions? Where do you guys want to go 556 00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,880 there? This is, this is full PPR. 557 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:42,240 Yeah, yeah. OK, so it makes Alman Raw, like 558 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,120 kind of a scary fade. But yeah, I don't think you have 559 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:48,120 to worry about ownership quite as much. 560 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,080 If you're playing this the right way, where you can pivot, 'cause 561 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,080 we can see ownership too, as cards get flipped over, right. 562 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,400 So we can do. So then I think you start with 563 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,040 Alman Raw, 'cause that's the Sunday night game, right? 564 00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,600 And then? Yeah, maybe the Ram's. 565 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,080 Maybe the Ram's kicker and then we can flip. 566 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,560 We could. That sounds good. 567 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,160 You know. Yeah that's a don't don't game 568 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:13,720 Rams kicker. That makes sense. 569 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,800 And then, yeah, we've got, we can pivot there. 570 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:19,760 You can pivot Sunday night and flip the Rams to your winner and 571 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:23,000 play like puka and and the Lions kicker. 572 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:30,000 Get a little contrarian and the two seven will probably go or we 573 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:34,680 already have bills in the two. So do you just not play a Raven 574 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:39,720 or do you start with like zay or something? 575 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:43,960 I think you gotta start with, well, it depends on how we're 576 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:47,320 playing that step of the bracket are are we saying that the 577 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:53,840 Ravens get upset then by 'cause we we've got Chiefs winning, so 578 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:57,400 it's gonna be the four or five plays the Ravens, so. 579 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:01,760 Yeah, I think the Ravens beat, beat them. 580 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:08,560 So can we can we do them more? Well, the way I was saying this 581 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,040 one, I don't think we intentionally. 582 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,320 Was to be a. Buffalo, San Francisco Super 583 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,560 Bowl with, oh, it was McCaffrey. Yeah, 'cause in the second round 584 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:17,680 you have to add party if you want to play McCaffrey. 585 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:21,960 So I think it kind of makes sense to be doing Allen and 586 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,960 keeping that and then doing like like a Baker like we were 587 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:25,720 saying. Right. 588 00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:30,640 So we're saying Ravens play two games in this scenario then, and 589 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,880 they're losing one of them. So that feels like we just do 590 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,920 zay flowers and don't overthink it, right? 591 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:38,240 That's kind of how I was thinking about it. 592 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:43,600 Yeah, 'cause we're not. Likely gives you nothing, no 593 00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,360 advantage at all. Yeah, so we want Zay here. 594 00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:50,480 I think so. And then like I assume on this 595 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,160 that like you're just playing CD. 596 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,640 Yeah, yeah. And if if we're doing a a a 597 00:31:56,640 --> 00:32:01,360 Buffalo Super Bowl with a San Francisco Super Bowl where CMC 598 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:07,560 is optimal over Purdy, are are are are we like contrarian like 599 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,360 enough almost that we should be looking at more chalky stuff now 600 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:14,680 or or is that is that not true at all well? 601 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,560 We just put in CD. Yeah, I think, yeah. 602 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:17,880 Yeah. Yeah. 603 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:19,400 No, I know, but. Yeah, we can. 604 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,280 We can bring it home pretty chalky. 605 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:22,160 Just I think. Really. 606 00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,520 Chalky. That's what I'm suggesting. 607 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:25,800 Yeah, let me go with. That I was gonna say. 608 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:29,320 What do you think about going hurts Evans you well you could 609 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,440 go Baker whatever. But hurts Evans is a little less 610 00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:35,360 the. Problem with Hurts Evans is 611 00:32:35,360 --> 00:32:37,160 that. You're playing the box to win. 612 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:42,040 Yeah, but if the if hurts is hurts, they're not gonna lose. 613 00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,360 Yeah, that's like, that's a great point. 614 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,000 If they play well, if Hurts scores, they're gonna win. 615 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:51,440 They're gonna win. So I think you just pick your 616 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:55,000 your quarterback is either Flacco or Stroud then, right? 617 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,880 Doesn't that sort of give you a lot of functionality too then? 618 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:01,800 Yeah, it does. Yeah. 619 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,120 I think Trico, yeah, but you're probably dumping this player 620 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,800 regardless, because you're probably adding. 621 00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,040 Purdy, But you're hoping Flacco lights up the the Texans 622 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:11,880 defense, which is. Pretty plausible. 623 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:16,320 The optionality it gives you is if Flacco does win and Josh 624 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,760 Allen gets upset, you can go, Oh my God. 625 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:23,240 Oh my God. OK, yeah, that now. 626 00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,040 You're well, your optionality. You've been hanging out with a 627 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,480 guy named Daniel Razz. That's. 628 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,360 The optionality it gives you, there's no other optionality 629 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:37,600 that I see if Alan got. Booted across the pond right 630 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:41,480 now. That's amazing. 631 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,720 So Flacco and then probably Nico, right? 632 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:45,880 I mean you got. To bring them back in shock. 633 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:49,400 I do think we may be forcing ourselves into too narrow of a 634 00:33:49,400 --> 00:33:54,600 pot with two AFC quarterbacks that I do have. 635 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:57,440 That is a hesitation there where it's like I I. 636 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,280 Unless you want to we're. Deciding that we're going to put 637 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:02,600 in Purdy. Yes. 638 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:08,080 I, I, I, I I guess I get that, but I don't like being locked 639 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,000 into it before we've even before it's even. 640 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,520 Well, we could start with Alan Purdy and then we're locked into 641 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,600 it. I mean, I think you're locked 642 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,120 into the QB's early in the contest regardless is sort of 643 00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:20,880 the way to play it. A lot of, I think I'll what 644 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,679 Henry was saying is a lot of people are going to lock in 645 00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:25,360 their QBs in the first round and never change them. 646 00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:29,400 Yes. That's kind of normally would be 647 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,480 optimal because you want to correctly pick the Super Bowl, 648 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,960 but it's a little that's. Essentially what we're doing, 649 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:38,360 but we're just doing trade. Off We're just doing trade off 650 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:43,040 with, yeah, I think it's very unique to the CMC thing, right? 651 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,120 Like, he's extremely unique. To. 652 00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:47,280 It running back that could probably outscore. 653 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,239 Yeah, Matt Stone asking why don't you take Purdy now if you 654 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:51,360 think they go to the Super Bowl, that there's a strong case that 655 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,920 we should do that, but we're betting on CMC over Purdy. 656 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:55,880 Basically doing a slightly different build. 657 00:34:56,199 --> 00:34:59,680 That's here. We have to take a running back 658 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,600 and because we're picking both sides of this Eagles and Tampa 659 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,320 game, are we? God, I I want to play Mike 660 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,000 Evans. But it feels like maybe it's 661 00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:12,200 Rashad White or or. Or do we do DeAndre Swift and 662 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,880 just say that? No, that's really bad. 663 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,320 Rashad Devonta Smith is, is pretty, I mean we'll have, 664 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,520 you'll have the flexibility to make that decision. 665 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:24,080 Yeah, what about A.J. Brown? 666 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:25,280 I mean, we can. We'll know, right? 667 00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,560 That's what I'm saying. That's true. 668 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,360 Yeah, I'm getting bad vibes on A.J. 669 00:35:28,360 --> 00:35:28,880 Brown. Just. 670 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:30,480 Me too are. Thank you. 671 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,720 Real bet. Are you? 672 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,080 He's a gamer. He's gonna play. 673 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:39,560 AJ Brown's my, my spirit animal. AJ Brown's gonna play and tear 674 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,920 it up. Well, that's the beauty of this 675 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:43,360 one is we we don't have to make it. 676 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,920 But I have a feeling we'll be coming in here. 677 00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:47,480 I saw the DNP and I was like. He's just chilling. 678 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,840 He's good. He's good. 679 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,320 I think he's good. He's walking around. 680 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:55,840 He's fine. So then, who is our defense? 681 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,760 Here we're we're not biased. Don't worry, we're. 682 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,560 No, we're totally unbiased. Spoiled for choice. 683 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,600 A defense here I like. I like all of these defensive 684 00:36:03,600 --> 00:36:07,520 plays. Steeler's defense to stick it to 685 00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:11,520 Liam. I like. 686 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,360 I kind of like Miami, too. Yeah. 687 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:17,440 I think. I think they're both fine, 688 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,720 though I I would be like jamming Steelers if Watt still had his 689 00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:24,520 ACL intact. But yeah. 690 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,360 What a what Houston player are we playing if we're playing 691 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:32,400 Flacco to lose? Oh, oh, oh, sorry. 692 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,960 Yeah, yeah, yeah, sorry, Sorry, Nico. 693 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,800 So. Who are the full fades then? 694 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,640 Pittsburgh? And who's there's an NFC? 695 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:39,160 And Green Bay. And Green Bay the. 696 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:41,320 Blackburn doesn't need to lose, right? 697 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:44,760 We can just swap to Purdy regardless of what happens. 698 00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:47,600 What? What happens if Flacco wins, 699 00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,040 though? Is all of a sudden our Nico 700 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:54,960 Collins gets replaced by a 1X Brown then, which is pain 701 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:57,280 because someone else has that brown at 2X. 702 00:36:57,720 --> 00:37:00,760 And so then we've got to get really contrarian somewhere. 703 00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:04,600 And so we either are hoping that we were contrarian enough early 704 00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,000 where we got a little bit of a lead where we're not buried or 705 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,880 we got to do something really funky. 706 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,400 Yeah. So yeah, we we kind of need 707 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:16,360 Flacco to lose. Is there any case for going like 708 00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:23,960 Amari and Baker? I actually don't feel that great 709 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:27,160 about the Browns losing. I think the I I feel much better 710 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:28,640 about the Bucks losing than the Browns. 711 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:33,120 Yeah, I'm I'm kind of worried that Baker in a loss just 712 00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:36,360 doesn't even score that many points though. 713 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,120 He's like. They only scored like 9 points 714 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,160 last weekend. He's super banged up. 715 00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,120 What about love? Also, we can't do that 'cause we 716 00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:47,200 would need a running back. Love I have to go to Singletary 717 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,000 in that if you're doing. This, yeah. 718 00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,120 Yeah, I. Think the cleanest is just, I 719 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,440 think the cleanest is just pick the winner in this Cleveland and 720 00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,280 Houston game and we're either playing Stroud or we're playing 721 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,400 Flacco, 'cause it's clean to go from Nico to Amari, you know? 722 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,840 Yeah you can tell this is just just gut check. 723 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,720 Do we know Ball, who's winning this one? 724 00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:11,800 Do you guys want to try a different one that's not 725 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,560 McCaffrey Allen? Like I I let it sound kind of I 726 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:17,920 think a a a more challenging path than than necessary. 727 00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:20,720 No, I like this a lot. I mean, this was a lot of fun to 728 00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:22,960 think through. Well, I think it's good because 729 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,800 it it shows you the tougher decision points versus the kind 730 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,000 of chalk build where you just put in, you know, Purdy and 731 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,920 Lamar or whatever. Henry Henry had a good comment 732 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,160 in the chat. There, he says one way is to 733 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,160 play both QBs from the same game. 734 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:42,560 Locks in opening for Purdy, but Alan Rudolph is gross, yeah. 735 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,280 Yeah. Oh, that's interesting. 736 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,000 So if you could do it more with like, yeah, if you did like the 737 00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,720 Dak, Jordan, Love kind of thing, maybe in a better game. 738 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:55,760 Yeah, that's a whole. You could do Mahomes tour and 739 00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,840 you're playing AC Miami winner to go to the Super Bowl and play 740 00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,720 the Niners. That's also. 741 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:02,000 Pretty gross though. Yeah the IT is. 742 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,320 I'm, I'm scared of those. What? 743 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:05,760 I'm usually not a weather bro, but man the weather's got me 744 00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,320 shook and. And the idea is that either side 745 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,400 winning could be a team that could go all the way to the 746 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,160 Super. Bowl Yeah. 747 00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:14,760 That's what you That's the way you want to play it, yeah. 748 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,840 Yeah, yeah. So which is it? 749 00:39:17,880 --> 00:39:21,480 It is tough for those scenarios. It if it weren't for the weather 750 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,280 thing, it would be the Chiefs Dolphins game that you would 751 00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:25,640 target for that path. Because. 752 00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:30,200 Or if it was, if it was the Bills, Texans and the weather 753 00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,000 was good, then you'd love to do Stroud. 754 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,120 And then you Stroud's losing for sure. 755 00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,960 We know that. And then, yeah, get your Super 756 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:39,320 Bowl quarterback and Allen. Yeah. 757 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:43,240 The other thing as well is so quarterback, that's the high, 758 00:39:43,240 --> 00:39:47,800 that's easily the highest scoring position and and and the 759 00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,600 Cleveland, Houston game, that's the that's the first game and 760 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:55,040 and so do you want the information on that early or do 761 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:58,000 you want the information from the other games before you 762 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:01,560 decide what you're doing at that second quarterback spot? 763 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,000 Yes, I I think it's the second one. 764 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:09,000 That we want information first decide. 765 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:13,040 Can you be a second? Yeah, I don't. 766 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,560 I feel like Flacco's to play but I don't know how to not do it. 767 00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:19,840 Is it Stafford? And then you've somehow moved 768 00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:22,360 the kicker situation out, 'cause you're Yeah, if we're playing 769 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,920 Flacco to lose, we're playing the Rams to lose. 770 00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:26,240 That's true. That's a good point. 771 00:40:26,240 --> 00:40:27,960 That's a great one. I like that. 772 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,200 But then I We're still playing the Rams to lose, though. 773 00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,840 Can we go? Can we go? 774 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,120 I mean the the Browns to lose. How do we fit the Browns in? 775 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:46,040 Yeah, then we then we go kaimi instead of Nika. 776 00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:47,520 That's. Right. 777 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:51,280 And then Yep, where am I? I like that better. 778 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,880 Yeah, that was a good call, Draco. 779 00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,560 Yep. Good to have some input. 780 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,600 And and then what you could, I mean, I guess you could do a. 781 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,600 Mari or. Mari you could do a Mari or no 782 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,440 Joko if anyone has strong I assume in this I mean in this 783 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,720 you. Could do Jerome board Mike Evans 784 00:41:12,720 --> 00:41:15,960 now if you wanted to go to get the other running back? 785 00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,480 Off. Yeah, a lot of two V twos start 786 00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:18,800 to open up. For sure. 787 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,120 I like white Amari better and I think we can, Yeah, worry about 788 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:23,600 chalk. It's like play the best plays at 789 00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,080 this point, yeah. Yeah. 790 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,280 I just. I feel like I like Njoku more 791 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,760 than Amari. Straight up right now and. 792 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,000 Not as one and just regular people. 793 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,880 Even in this, yeah. Wow. 794 00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:36,840 Did what did. Where were you? 795 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,240 During Week 16 of the NFL season, where was Abari? 796 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:46,280 During Week 17 and 18 like and Joku's game log has been really 797 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,600 considered literally strong. He. 798 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,640 He was. He was on the winning BBM 4 799 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:54,880 lineup. That's where Amari was. 800 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,960 That's. It is Amari on the road though, 801 00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,600 so do we think of that? No, he had. 802 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:03,120 Didn't he already? He had the 50 burger on the road 803 00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:04,000 and. He he was on the road. 804 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,520 He broke the curse, OK? And. 805 00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,080 They're in a shatter, dude. It's over. 806 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:08,840 Yeah, it's we'll ever talk about. 807 00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,640 Mario and it's a he's in Houston in the Dome. 808 00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:15,480 Then all of the road Amari stuff that goes out the window. 809 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:19,520 All right that that was fun. I I will be curious. 810 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,640 I know a lot of you guys have thoughts, Pluto. 811 00:42:21,640 --> 00:42:23,320 I appreciate you weighing in some of you guys. 812 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,000 If you guys have other thoughts on this contest or strategy, 813 00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,400 definitely drop it in the Discord. 814 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,640 We're eager to learn and pick your guys's brain on that. 815 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,440 We're obviously trying to figure this out on the fly, but a fun 816 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,400 format. And yeah, we will. 817 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:38,400 We'll keep you guys posted on how it goes. 818 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:43,280 Let's see, do we wanna check in on some FFPC stuff? 819 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,200 And then we'll we'll save some of the underdog drafting for the 820 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,120 end. Yeah. 821 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,080 Yeah. So I guess I'll just start 822 00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:55,080 because I I want to get Draco and Sacrilegious's Fresh 823 00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,120 Thoughts on this stuff. But I guess, Pat, I will ask to 824 00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,560 set it up. Have you made any big ownership 825 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:03,200 changes since the show last night? 826 00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:07,360 No, I I kind of tweaked some of the smaller stuff that we were 827 00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:08,800 talking about at the end of the show. 828 00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:16,480 And so, having not made any major changes, I'd listen to 829 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:21,720 Jacob Sanderson's appearance with Davis Matic today, which 830 00:43:21,720 --> 00:43:23,200 got my wheels turning a little bit. 831 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:28,920 He was touting the Ravens defense as a as like kind of the 832 00:43:28,920 --> 00:43:33,640 pivot of pivots, which I actually really like, because 833 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,760 it's like the way that people won't fade them. 834 00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,520 Most people will fade with Tucker, so I I actually boosted, 835 00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:41,720 I think I boosted them from 1% to 2%. 836 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,520 Jacob. Sanderson's steam boost. 837 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,920 There, yeah. Put that in your Twitter bio. 838 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:52,160 Jacob got Crane to adjust his Baltimore Ravens. 839 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:53,760 Dean. Ownership in the playoff 840 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:58,360 contest. Let's see sacrilege. 841 00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:01,040 Are you are you going to do a a batch of ownership for this with 842 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,280 Pat? Yeah, I had. 843 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,480 I did one and sent it over to Pat. 844 00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:08,280 I definitely defer to Pat's ownership numbers over mine. 845 00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:10,640 There were a couple spots, though last night on the show 846 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,920 where Pat was adjusting stuff. It did head in the direction 847 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,960 that some of mine were, so that made me feel smart. 848 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,720 That's true. Yeah, I still have. 849 00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,240 Have you updated yours? I still have. 850 00:44:19,240 --> 00:44:22,960 No, I need to do another run. I was waiting to see how you 851 00:44:22,960 --> 00:44:27,480 updated before I did a run and then I did see the Easy had some 852 00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,600 ownership he did as well on his tool that he came out with. 853 00:44:31,720 --> 00:44:36,160 He had Tucker really high. I had I had the Ravens fade 854 00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,480 overall really low. So I probably need to come up on 855 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,480 that a little bit. I I think that my favorite if 856 00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:45,360 there's one that I'm going to flag plant on though it's I'm 857 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:47,920 pretty sure the boomers are going to flock to Fairbairn. 858 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:50,320 I have Fairbairn at like above 20%. 859 00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:53,840 That's the kicker spot for me. Like, that's the chalk kicker. 860 00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:59,160 And I feel pretty like in in my gut, that's the one where I'm 861 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:01,000 like, I think I'm, I'm on that one. 862 00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:05,600 The the one where it's like Pat's talking directly to me 863 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,280 right now. So, like, when you project 864 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,880 something and you're like, what a wonderful opportunity this is, 865 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:12,720 you might be wrong in your projections. 866 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:15,120 Like I'm too low on my Cooper Cup ownership. 867 00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,560 That's. What it's called. 868 00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,520 I have Cooper Cup at 15, which feels like too high, but the 869 00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,240 second I lowered I'm like, oh, what a great play. 870 00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:29,240 I had him at 7:00 on my first run for reference, so probably 871 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:34,240 probably a little too low there. Yeah, I mean I I do agree like 872 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:36,200 fair Baron in that Dome feel so comfy. 873 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,320 I am just wondering if that Eagles ambiguity. 874 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,560 You know, my my take is that was going to soak up a lot of kicker 875 00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:46,040 ownership where it's like, I can see this being a good game, but 876 00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,440 I just do not want to deal with the Eagles. 877 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,160 Like I could see some of the Jake Elliott stuff really coming 878 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:55,280 up. Yeah, my pushback is Jake, so I 879 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:57,680 just pulled up four for Fours kicker projections. 880 00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,680 Jake Elliott is kicker 5, and then Chase McLaughlin is kicker 881 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,960 9, Kayemi's kicker 10. So there's I think the Kicker 882 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:14,240 Bowl is probably gonna be. Only thing I will say, I don't 883 00:46:14,240 --> 00:46:17,080 think anyone's actually looking at kicker projections when they 884 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:19,160 make their kicker. I think the Boomers might look 885 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,760 at kicker projections. I think they're pulling up their 886 00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:25,880 kicker projections 10.2 versus 10.1. 887 00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,960 I mean you got to go with with McLaughlin. 888 00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:30,840 I mean, I was looking at defensive. 889 00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:32,400 Projections last night, so whatever. 890 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,640 Yeah, and and the Texans are the fifth highest ranked defense, 891 00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:39,360 ahead of the Eagles and ahead of the Bucks. 892 00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:43,240 So if you're just going by projections, you would go Bucks 893 00:46:43,240 --> 00:46:45,160 or Eagles kicker depending on who you're fading. 894 00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:51,680 And then Houston D. Yeah, I I think I had Brown's DA 895 00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,680 little higher than you had them too and that's kind of that's 896 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,840 the like snake eating its own tail trickle down effect of 897 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:01,520 these projections like you move one thing here and then now 898 00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:03,360 you're you're chasing your tail everywhere else. 899 00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:06,440 So yeah, it's really just a a cascading effect. 900 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,680 I think the Browns will be pretty popular on defense, but 901 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:13,200 it's just how much are they faded And I think it does feel 902 00:47:13,200 --> 00:47:15,880 like sentiments pretty strong for the Browns to win. 903 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:17,760 When you're talking about Browns, when you hear like, I 904 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,480 don't know if the Browns will win, it's generally against the 905 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,800 Ravens. That's what people mean. 906 00:47:23,240 --> 00:47:27,600 So I don't think they'll be as highly faded as the the like 907 00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:32,680 line would reflect. Yeah, the OR Draco, do you, I 908 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,720 assume you got to maybe peruse some of the ownership. 909 00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:38,360 Do you have any thoughts on that or just kind of macro thoughts 910 00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:42,480 on the contest so far? And well the the the big thing 911 00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:47,280 that that that struck out to me was that it does feel like 912 00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:52,920 because running back is 10 that feels a little bit like it 913 00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:58,200 should push Kyron up a bit And then like because it's like who 914 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:02,200 who who do you play Because you you can't play Gibbs because 915 00:48:02,200 --> 00:48:03,800 then you're fading almond Ross and Brown. 916 00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,280 So that that does feel like something where it's it's 917 00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:11,040 pushing Kyron up and then he's not like he's projected decently 918 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,920 but not not like not like amazing or anything. 919 00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:15,880 Not not like he's not like gapping anybody. 920 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,120 And then that could be something where it it opens up Cooper Cup 921 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:26,120 and Pooka pretty nicely. The other thought I had was and 922 00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:31,160 and maybe this is this is kooky. But if the Eagles, despite all 923 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,480 expectations do actually go to the Super Bowl you're going to 924 00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,600 really want and Jalen Hurts and if you look at the Vegas odds 925 00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,480 they're only like 700 to get to the Super Bowl like that doesn't 926 00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:47,200 that doesn't feel like an insane like bet. 927 00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,560 No I know. Like I, I, I, I, I probably 928 00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,840 sound like a crazy person. But that the the the 929 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:54,760 probabilities are don't seem like bad at all. 930 00:48:55,320 --> 00:48:57,840 I mean, he definitely wasn't talking about his fingers not 931 00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,480 working today, so. Well, I'm I'm also laughing 932 00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:05,360 because I read Sean's piece over on Rotaviz right before the show 933 00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:09,400 and he wrote up like how to play every single offense in like a 934 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,720 contrarian way too. And he literally just self 935 00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:14,600 excluded from the Eagles thing, he said. 936 00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:17,880 I'm not touching the Eagles like he's he's full fading the 937 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:19,160 Eagles. Wow. 938 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,520 It's I was just laughing. He was the one boy. 939 00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:25,760 He just wrote two sentences and moved on to write, you know, 500 940 00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,920 words about the ramps. I've taken actually a ton of 941 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,520 you. I've actually I love the the 942 00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:36,400 Draco take there of of Hertz because like if he if Hertz is 943 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:40,000 right or righter than you know we're worried he will be. 944 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:44,000 The offense runs through him. He's got such scoring potential 945 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:49,600 and like, he willpower them. Like he will be the reason that 946 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:52,440 they make a Super Bowl run. If they do so, you're capturing 947 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,280 the points within the player. Ben brought this up when we were 948 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:59,560 in Discord the other day. We're kind of talking through 949 00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,600 some of the ways to play this tournament and one, one kind of 950 00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:07,520 fundamental lesson I think is trying to identify how the team 951 00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,720 will win. Right? 952 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:12,520 One of our big hits from a few years ago was Cam Akers was like 953 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,120 super low owned against the Seahawks. 954 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:18,600 Everyone didn't want, no one really wanted to pick a Ram and 955 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:20,640 they just were betting on the Rams to lose that game. 956 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,800 But it's like you have this opportunity to take, if the Rams 957 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,960 win, they're probably running the ball well and so you you're 958 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:30,120 actually getting the player who's going to drive that upset 959 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,600 Derrick Henry back in the day like that. 960 00:50:32,600 --> 00:50:35,480 It's like you're taking Henry over A.J. 961 00:50:35,480 --> 00:50:38,040 Brown because if the Titans win, it's because that's going 962 00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:39,840 through Henry. So Hertz gives you that 963 00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,200 opportunity at quarterback, which is definitely interesting 964 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:46,480 at very low ownership. And he's going to outscore all 965 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,800 the other Eagles by so many points as well, if that. 966 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:52,560 Happens if the Super Bowl, yeah. If they make a run to the Super 967 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,800 Bowl, the the path is brutal. But to Sacrilege's point, 968 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,280 they're in the 4-5 game. In the 4-5 game, you just need 969 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,680 one of the other upsets and then they don't have to go through 970 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:07,840 San Francisco. I mean, it seems plausible, 971 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,720 right? Either the Packers or Rams 972 00:51:09,720 --> 00:51:13,880 upset. The Eagles are then not going 973 00:51:13,880 --> 00:51:17,040 through San Francisco. I think you maybe want the Rams 974 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:18,760 upset 'cause the Rams. Yes. 975 00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:20,120 You want. The Rams. 976 00:51:20,360 --> 00:51:23,640 You want the Rams 'cause you do. Not really having to go to San 977 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,640 Fran. And I think you have like a 978 00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:30,320 small out of. The The Rams beating the Niners 979 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:32,800 once fall out. Well, that that's true. 980 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,800 That is true. That's definitely true. 981 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:38,440 But then let's say let's say the Niners win and then the Niners 982 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:43,520 beat the Eagles. Are you totally dead with CMC? 983 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,160 And let's say Kelsey you? You're probably dead if it's 984 00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:49,440 Allen or Lamar, but you. But Jalen Hurts could be the 985 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:56,640 winning quarterback if if it's a a Chief Super Bowl and he Hurts 986 00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,760 scores really well in three games. 987 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,720 I think even if it's a Ravens, honestly, I mean, I know you get 988 00:52:01,720 --> 00:52:05,000 the double points for Lamar, but it it would just mean that Hurts 989 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:08,600 was way better than the other skill guys on the Eagles and 990 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,720 Lamar brought someone along. Right. 991 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,520 To A to a pretty substantial degree, obviously. 992 00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:16,640 Like Zay, Flowers has a monster Super Bowl and gets the double 993 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:20,760 points and then hurts. Flowers can can beat Lamar. 994 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,280 Or what about James Cook? If it's a Bill's Super Bowl? 995 00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,480 I mean, maybe, maybe. It's possible. 996 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,000 Yeah. Allen, a couple years ago was 997 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,640 the optimum QB in two games, was it? 998 00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,520 Two, I thought. It was, I think it was two. 999 00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:39,200 Wow. The year that they lost the the 1000 00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,400 Chiefs. The Chiefs. 1001 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:43,640 They had the monster first game I think against the Patriots and 1002 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:46,720 then lost the Chiefs in the monster shootout and I think it 1003 00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:48,320 would play 2. And it was Chiefs, Bengals I 1004 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:51,880 think, in the in the conference championship, right? 1005 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,320 Yep. Last year or Oh no, you're 1006 00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,200 talking two years ago. Yeah, and it became, it became 1007 00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:01,800 Bengals, Rams. And it ended up being, I think, 1008 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,200 like Chase Cop with Allen was off. 1009 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,080 Yeah, I'm not 100% certain. No, I think that's right, I 1010 00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:08,880 think. That's right. 1011 00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,640 Yep. And and it is the question of 1012 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,200 like it, it's not just Hertz versus Allen. 1013 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:20,960 It's Hertz and Diggs versus Allen and A.J. 1014 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,280 Brown or Devante. And if A.J. 1015 00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:27,880 Brown and Devon to like basically don't play or or or or 1016 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:33,600 like they they're the the fears about them come to pass like the 1017 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:35,720 the digs piece could really push you over the top. 1018 00:53:37,240 --> 00:53:41,160 Yep. Yeah, and one give. 1019 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:44,640 Just sorry I just was gonna or sorry no finish that thought 1020 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,000 Pat. Well, I just, I was just saying 1021 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:49,440 you just, you need in order for that to happen, like in order 1022 00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:53,880 for for you to take a Hertz, you know, you want that guy to be 1023 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,960 able to go absolutely nuclear in two games and at least make you 1024 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:00,400 live in the two games and and that's hurts like hurts. 1025 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,120 And do that. You can rush for five touchdowns 1026 00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:06,480 in two games and you're like, all right, well, and then he can 1027 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:10,160 do it in a way that that leaves a skilled position behind by 1028 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,840 rushing for all the TV. Exactly. 1029 00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:13,200 Yeah. He does it himself. 1030 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:15,240 Yeah. So he's actually a lot more 1031 00:54:15,240 --> 00:54:17,000 appealing in my home. He's interesting, yeah. 1032 00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:18,520 Yeah. It's a good take. 1033 00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:23,880 I just want to give a couple plugs if you guys missed it last 1034 00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:27,280 night, Pat has his ownership projections available. 1035 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:30,840 If you guys are legendary, Upside Subs Discord members, you 1036 00:54:30,840 --> 00:54:32,960 can get in there. If you're ship chasing YouTube 1037 00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:35,800 members who have unlocked that discord, it's pinned in there. 1038 00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:37,120 And I also wanted to give a shout out. 1039 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,920 Sacrilegious referenced it before Easy released. 1040 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:44,040 A really cool tool for you know, kind of hand building out 1041 00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:47,240 various brackets in scenarios on his site. 1042 00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:50,120 I'll drop that link down below, but it's a really cool way to 1043 00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:53,040 basically build out a bracket and then you can kind of run and 1044 00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,960 see what the optimal using his projections would be for that 1045 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,320 bracket. And then you can kind of start 1046 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:01,360 to fiddle around with different like 2V twos, different 1047 00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:04,640 scenarios kind of see how much am I giving up and then also 1048 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:07,840 seeing like which players play better in like 3 game scenarios 1049 00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,800 versus just one. So a really cool tool and plug 1050 00:55:10,840 --> 00:55:13,600 for built. The ship chasing Discord, If 1051 00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:17,160 you're in there, there's a version of the tool with my 1052 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:18,880 ownership projections built into it. 1053 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,120 So. Yep, jump out the ship chasing 1054 00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:25,000 Discord. Yes, very, very cool stuff 1055 00:55:25,240 --> 00:55:28,120 there. The the thing I've been thinking 1056 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:34,280 about lately that I can't square is that I just feel in my bones 1057 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,320 people wanting to get off Kelsey and play Pacheco. 1058 00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:39,760 I feel it. And yet, I'm just really 1059 00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:42,760 struggling to figure out which tight end is going to backfill 1060 00:55:42,760 --> 00:55:44,800 behind him. There has to be in Joku. 1061 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,080 I'm pretty sure. In Joku. 1062 00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,040 Then yeah. But to what? 1063 00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,240 Ext Joku, I've thought about this too, Pete since last night 1064 00:55:52,240 --> 00:55:55,160 and I I think you're completely right. 1065 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,960 I think. And Joku winds up higher than 1066 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,400 Amari. I think he may wind up higher 1067 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,560 than Kelsey. Wow. 1068 00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:05,400 Pat, I don't think you had that. But no, I don't. 1069 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,520 No, I haven't. I have an amari, but I could. 1070 00:56:08,600 --> 00:56:12,920 I could see being wrong on that and and Kelsey coming down. 1071 00:56:13,040 --> 00:56:17,000 I mean, the narrative is flipped on Kelsey. 1072 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:18,480 People don't want to play Kelsey. 1073 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,480 They don't want to play him. But I also, this is like what 1074 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,280 Zach was saying with having 7% Cooper cut because if you tell 1075 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,320 me that in Joko has more than Kelsey, I'm going to tell you 1076 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:27,960 Kelsey's the best fucking player in the tournament. 1077 00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:31,000 I I actually do want to play him at that point. 1078 00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,880 I think he catches 8 balls. Even if they lose in the first 1079 00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:36,400 game like I I they have to get something going. 1080 00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,400 They don't have pass catchers. He's their dude. 1081 00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,560 He's had a bad season. People are really down on him, 1082 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,400 but I think it's just pretty like would it shock anybody if 1083 00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:49,520 he comes out and and and is basically catching the vast, 1084 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:52,480 like the, you know, 35% of their balls in the playoffs. 1085 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,480 I mean, I just, I don't think it'll be shocking at all. 1086 00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,560 It's good, I don't think. It's like 8 catches. 1087 00:56:58,560 --> 00:57:00,600 IS is 12 points on receptions alone. 1088 00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:04,320 Wait is time, Premium is. Time Premium. 1089 00:57:04,520 --> 00:57:05,320 I almost. Forgot. 1090 00:57:05,640 --> 00:57:07,880 I don't think camp, it's eight for 45 yards. 1091 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:10,880 Like it's 8 catches, you know, like he has the potential to do 1092 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:12,240 something that a lot of tight ends. 1093 00:57:12,240 --> 00:57:13,560 Can't do but with the. Joke. 1094 00:57:13,640 --> 00:57:14,920 It's not even potential The joke. 1095 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:17,040 Who's been doing that? He's doing this, he's been. 1096 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,360 But the joke who goes? Way behind Kelsey in these in 1097 00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:24,000 the best ball drafts. He does, but that's also an 1098 00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,920 advancement thing where getting your team to the finals is more 1099 00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,360 important than in this format. It is, but people don't really 1100 00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:33,640 want to lose their tight end in tight end premium. 1101 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,760 But I'm saying this year there's no tight end that's separating 1102 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,920 that makes you feel that opportunity cost. 1103 00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,440 I yeah, I agree to, I agree to an extent. 1104 00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,080 But just that that little extra thing of like Kelsey's gonna 1105 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:49,880 play more games. So therefore. 1106 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,160 But I disagree because most people are playing both the 1107 00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:55,680 Browns and Chiefs. To be one and done that would be 1108 00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,200 like the chalk scenario. Yeah. 1109 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,880 No, I don't. Think you're playing chief? 1110 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,120 No, I think people were playing Dolphins one and done. 1111 00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:05,680 The The vibes on the Dolphins are bad right now. 1112 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:07,400 No, no, I'm saying people or sorry. 1113 00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:11,400 I'm saying everyone is assuming Travis Kelsey and David Najoku 1114 00:58:11,440 --> 00:58:13,040 each play two games. Sorry, That's oh. 1115 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:14,480 Two and done. Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1116 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:15,560 Yeah. Yeah. 1117 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,800 Sorry, one win. One win and then lost. 1118 00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:19,880 But yeah, that that's why I'm saying I don't know if that 1119 00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:23,400 separates. Isn't isn't Dalton Kincaid like 1120 00:58:23,400 --> 00:58:26,200 such a good? Yeah, and that's cause 'cause I 1121 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:28,280 had Toronto, I was just gonna say, as he made that case on 1122 00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:31,440 stealing bananas today. And I wanted to to say no, but. 1123 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:33,840 I think it's so you revealed before the show that you have a 1124 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:37,040 lamp in your your study. That's from the same company 1125 00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:39,880 that Liam got. How much have you been hanging 1126 00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:43,400 out with Liam? I I might need to throw the lamp 1127 00:58:43,400 --> 00:58:46,520 out. Lamp chopping together. 1128 00:58:46,960 --> 00:58:49,680 I so I had Kincaid on my first run. 1129 00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:55,000 I had it at 20%, 'cause I I let my own brain get in my way when 1130 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:57,200 I'm doing these projections, like, and then what are people 1131 00:58:57,200 --> 00:58:59,320 going to do when they think about the ownership? 1132 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:02,000 And so, like, I had steamed Kincaid all the way up in my 1133 00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:05,320 head of like, this is such a sick play, and I had Lamar 1134 00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,000 really high in my first run and I I brought him down after I saw 1135 00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,160 Pat's. But yeah, the more I think about 1136 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,840 it, Kincaid feels really sick. The other one that I really 1137 00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,440 like, someone's going to have to drag me off this play. 1138 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:20,400 But I'm pretty sure Jamir Gibbs has to be one of the best plays 1139 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,960 in the contest too. With like I had almond raw lower 1140 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:25,760 and I was still considering a fade. 1141 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:29,400 And then after seeing what Pat had on him and easy had on him 1142 00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,160 and like hearing the sentiment around like well, you got to 1143 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,520 just play almond raw. It's like, I'm pretty sure I 1144 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,960 just got to play Gibbs on, like every team I make then. 1145 00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:43,280 It's such a clean pivot from almond raw kyron to Gibbs puka 1146 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:48,440 or or or Cook as well it it feels like a really natural 1147 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,320 pivot. Yeah, Davis was mentioning that 1148 00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,360 one. It's like when we go to look at 1149 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,400 DFS projections on Sunday, there's gonna be like basically 1150 00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:58,880 like half a point separating that 2V2, but like no one's 1151 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,520 gonna play that side. That's what I'm. 1152 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:05,680 Saying I don't, for whatever reason, I and A lot of sharp 1153 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,040 people, all, all of you guys, have been saying the Gibbs 1154 01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:08,840 thing. I don't. 1155 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,400 I don't see it as that clean. I see it as a material 1156 01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,880 difference because of Montgomery's role, because of 1157 01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:21,000 the way Gibbs has been not used as well as I've wanted them to 1158 01:00:21,000 --> 01:00:23,440 be used at times. Like Almanro's going to run 1159 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,720 around on every drop back. He's going to get a ton of 1160 01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:28,160 targets. Gibbs doesn't always get all the 1161 01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:29,720 receiving. I mean, I know the ceiling is 1162 01:00:29,720 --> 01:00:33,920 there. I think in a win where Gibbs 1163 01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,640 performs, Almanro gets there as well. 1164 01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,400 Like how does Gibbs bury Almanro? 1165 01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,400 In the in those games that we've seen Gibbs have those nuclear 1166 01:00:41,400 --> 01:00:45,640 like 35 point games where he he just gets, he soaks up a couple 1167 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:50,480 of the touchdowns he has like an explosive play and Alman Rah 1168 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,800 still gets there. You know Alman Rah gets his 1169 01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,480 twenty points easy, no problem. But you're just asking for Gibbs 1170 01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:58,960 to have an explosive play and a touchdown basically, which like 1171 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:04,360 he's he's, well, you know, I I mean I don't know I'm I'm kinda, 1172 01:01:04,600 --> 01:01:06,840 I I might be too bullish on Gibbs, but I think he's gonna 1173 01:01:06,840 --> 01:01:08,680 find his way to a lot of my lineups here. 1174 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,240 I think a lot. Of people you You can bury him 1175 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:17,320 too, if Kyron duds, I think. I don't think it has to be a 2V2 1176 01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,040 there necessarily. Well, I I see. 1177 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,440 Your running backs and like if if all the other running. 1178 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,560 If if a lot of the other running backs dud and and and Gibbs gets 1179 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:33,640 20 and and and all the other running backs are like 10 like I 1180 01:01:33,640 --> 01:01:37,080 don't think, I don't think it's just Gibbs versus almond raw 1181 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:40,520 like you have to factor in how the N running back is. 1182 01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:45,360 Overall, and I I do think it's best as a 2V2 because it gets 1183 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,240 you off of Kyron, who's gonna be chalky. 1184 01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:50,360 It's gonna be really hard to get off Kyron without doing 1185 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,280 something like going to Gibbs. And so, like, you might as well 1186 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:59,960 take advantage of that move and go to cup and puka where that's 1187 01:01:59,960 --> 01:02:02,120 kind of like how you want to attack the Lions anyway. 1188 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:05,280 Like the the whole peel of this matchup is really through the 1189 01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:08,560 air. So yeah, you need you need to 1190 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:13,840 pick the right RAM, and you need that guy to go off and then you 1191 01:02:13,840 --> 01:02:17,280 can still lose Dominaram. I don't know why it is, but I 1192 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,920 just don't. I don't feel as confident as you 1193 01:02:21,920 --> 01:02:24,440 guys in that in that pivot. I mean, I just. 1194 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:30,600 Well so the reason too like for people who also or or maybe not 1195 01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,520 fully familiar with this contest like they're you know it's 1196 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,880 likely that a Lion player is in the optimal right. 1197 01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,960 And so there's scenarios where the Amman Raw teams are very 1198 01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:43,920 chalky or say like a chalk bracket hits like if Jamir Gibbs 1199 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,280 even outscores Amman Raw by .1 points. 1200 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:50,960 Like that can be the difference between winning $500,000 and 1201 01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,760 dropping down just because of that configuration. 1202 01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:57,440 So I think you are getting into like a GPP bro element with it, 1203 01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,160 Gretch where I think everyone agrees Mon Raw is the the better 1204 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:03,120 play the better projected play. But the like what you win you 1205 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:06,000 when you win thing with Gibbs could be very outsized. 1206 01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:12,320 Yeah, I think about 66% right now is what I have for Amanurab 1207 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:19,000 versus I think 19 for for Gibbs. So you know, it's like is, is it 1208 01:03:19,000 --> 01:03:21,000 3? Is he three times more likely to 1209 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,720 win that 2V2 kind of thing, 'cause then you're also gaining, 1210 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,680 actually understates it because you're also gaining leverage 1211 01:03:26,680 --> 01:03:28,800 when you move from Kyren to the wide receiver. 1212 01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,960 So, you know, you're kind of saying the field's going to tell 1213 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:38,520 you my Amen RA Kyron 2V2V2 versus your Gibbs Puka or Gibbs 1214 01:03:38,520 --> 01:03:42,320 Cup is like four to five times more likely to be the higher 1215 01:03:42,320 --> 01:03:44,800 scoring combination. And I think that's wrong. 1216 01:03:45,600 --> 01:03:47,760 Yeah 'cause you got to think about the combinatorial 1217 01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:51,720 ownership of Kyren plus Alman RAW like that. 1218 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,120 Those are those are so. You don't have to play Kyren to 1219 01:03:55,120 --> 01:03:57,720 play Alman Raw. I I reject you guys's 2V2. 1220 01:03:57,720 --> 01:03:59,320 You guys have made this all about the two V2. 1221 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:03,480 If CMC is a lock there's every other running back in the in the 1222 01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:04,920 contest. Could be your RV. 1223 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,400 Two, you don't have to. Do it, but you don't have. 1224 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,880 Most people are. Gonna do it, but the sure the 1225 01:04:09,920 --> 01:04:12,560 chalk will be this. So you're still going against 1226 01:04:12,560 --> 01:04:16,840 the chalk with this 2V2? And the I I think the other 1227 01:04:16,840 --> 01:04:20,880 thing as well is so like we're we're gravitating towards Gibbs 1228 01:04:21,120 --> 01:04:25,160 as a pivot off of Kyron because Kyron feels awful, but then 1229 01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:29,360 obviously Gibbs comes, comes out at a cost of Amirah. 1230 01:04:29,800 --> 01:04:32,480 The problem then is if you don't want Gibbs, you don't want 1231 01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:36,000 Kyron, you don't want Gibbs. Who are your utter pivots? 1232 01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,360 You're talking like Rashad White or Rashad White. 1233 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:43,160 Aaron Jones, Aaron James Cook Do. 1234 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:45,200 We do. We not like the Dolphins running 1235 01:04:45,200 --> 01:04:46,200 backs. I feel like the Dolphins. 1236 01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,600 Dolphins, running backs, A Chan, Aaron Jones, James Cook, Those 1237 01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:51,680 are the places I'd go for RB2. I actually think so. 1238 01:04:51,760 --> 01:04:53,720 That's all I was trying to say. I'm not like, I'm not 1239 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,760 necessarily trying to fully argue the Gibson thing. 1240 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,520 It's just that, like, I don't want the almond raw point to get 1241 01:04:59,320 --> 01:05:01,840 tied too closely to. You have to play Kyron, 'cause I 1242 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:05,080 agree with you guys that Kyron is not probably a strong play. 1243 01:05:05,080 --> 01:05:07,680 He's probably a pretty good fade and I don't think you have to do 1244 01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,880 that if you go to Almond Raw. In fact, I don't think you want 1245 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,160 to for the reasons you guys were saying. 1246 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:13,960 It's not the Almond Raw. Kyron thing is going to be tied, 1247 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,080 really. High I think. 1248 01:05:15,240 --> 01:05:18,760 I think it's mainly Gretch too, like thinking because you can 1249 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:22,840 play both Gibbs in a Monroe and win loss scenarios. 1250 01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,520 It's like one of those simple logical pivots where you don't 1251 01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,320 have to like reconstruct a back bracket like some of these other 1252 01:05:28,320 --> 01:05:30,200 ones. Like if you are playing a Chan 1253 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:33,320 and stuff Like it might require you to like rethink how you're 1254 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:36,400 playing the entire bracket with the soft fade. 1255 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:38,640 Because most people are going to be playing both sides of this 1256 01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,000 game anyways. So it's like an immediate, just 1257 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:45,240 like simple lever to pull. It's also nice if you go Gibbs 1258 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:50,880 and Cup or Gibbs and Puka. You're like, you're, I think, 1259 01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,400 fading the Lions, right? You're the cleanest way this 1260 01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,560 goes for you is that the Lions lose. 1261 01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,880 They dump off to Gibbs a bunch in garbage time. 1262 01:05:59,960 --> 01:06:03,000 It's kind of like the Rams or the the Ravens loss where like, 1263 01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:06,560 Gibbs gets there but the kind of offense stinks kind of set up. 1264 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,800 Then they lose. Then let's say that Kyron's the 1265 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:12,440 highest scoring Ram from that game, but now they go and play 1266 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:19,120 the 49ers and you're feeling OK about Puka or Cup coming and and 1267 01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,400 passing Kyron in that two game sample. 1268 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,240 You know, obviously you'd love for PUKA or Cup to go off in the 1269 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,360 round in the first round too, but I think you don't even like 1270 01:06:26,360 --> 01:06:29,240 need that. You just need the Lions to lose 1271 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:33,800 and Gibbs to outscore Aman RA and then you've got that running 1272 01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:38,160 back taken care of. Everyone that has Kyron is now a 1273 01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,040 little bit of a concern, but you have another opportunity to 1274 01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:42,400 outscore them. You guys have definitely talked 1275 01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:43,440 me into the Gibbs thing a little bit. 1276 01:06:43,560 --> 01:06:45,320 For the record. I mean, I I definitely like it. 1277 01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:46,880 I don't think it's like something that I would be 1278 01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:49,000 comfortable pivoting to and and everything. 1279 01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,560 But no, no, you guys are making different points, yeah. 1280 01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,800 It's definitely a poor and I think it like what's so funny is 1281 01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:57,200 when we talk through all these like across our entries, it's 1282 01:06:57,200 --> 01:07:01,520 like saying you know you'd want to be like 10 to 15% lower than 1283 01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:05,800 market on Air SB and 10 to 15% higher on Gibbs, like just kind 1284 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,360 of like sliding that over that makes sense. 1285 01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,200 He has the one. 50 in with Leonie for your portfolio. 1286 01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,320 We're gonna get 75 in, OK? The the pivot, I think it was 1287 01:07:18,320 --> 01:07:25,760 mentioned the pivot from Tyre and Tyriq to Echhan at Puka, 1288 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:29,840 that's also like super, I think pretty clean as well. 1289 01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:32,640 Well, Monster's looking like he's gonna play. 1290 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:36,080 And so I think I just lowered a Chan down to like 3%. 1291 01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:39,240 I don't think anyone gets there now if Monster's playing. 1292 01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:44,040 That RB2 question is so, it is so interesting and is such a 1293 01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,480 constraint. Another one Sean brought up 1294 01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:50,400 tonight today when we recorded he he he brought up Najee Harris 1295 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:54,040 because that RB2 spot is is that challenge. 1296 01:07:57,360 --> 01:08:00,960 Pat's about to put his feet up on here, Khedira style. 1297 01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:07,560 I read that I I was just imagining like Sean. 1298 01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:10,960 Just like gritting his teeth as he typed it out like screenshot. 1299 01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:13,240 No, Sean. Sean, like, he has like a sick 1300 01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:15,880 pleasure for that type of stuff. Like when he actually gets to 1301 01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:17,399 tout the guys, he's always faded. 1302 01:08:17,399 --> 01:08:20,720 I know you don't like no watching Sean, like, have to 1303 01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:24,439 write about like Joe Mixon or Leonard Fournette over the past 1304 01:08:24,439 --> 01:08:26,840 few years that he hates every second of it. 1305 01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:28,880 Well, that's true, yeah. He's never come around. 1306 01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:32,399 Look at Ness. Ness pops up in the chat. 1307 01:08:32,399 --> 01:08:35,319 Now we're talking about. I still blame Nez. 1308 01:08:35,439 --> 01:08:37,800 For wanting the Steelers to make the playoffs, I think that's why 1309 01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:39,279 we have to deal with it. That's his. 1310 01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:44,359 Fault for sure. Let's see in any other kind of 1311 01:08:44,399 --> 01:08:46,840 bigger angles. You know, for I don't know if 1312 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:48,640 you guys got to watch the show last night or things. 1313 01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:52,160 You guys are fine. Particularly interesting right 1314 01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:56,120 now as far as decision points. Easy in the chat, says Puke. 1315 01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,319 Gus Edwards and I I've got to be honest, I definitely thought 1316 01:08:59,319 --> 01:09:04,200 through this of like my ultra contrarian way to play. 1317 01:09:04,760 --> 01:09:08,800 Like if you did, if you happen to do like a Purdy team where 1318 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,640 you're like you're stuck at running back and you're like, 1319 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,800 well, Lamar gets all the touchdowns vultured by Gus 1320 01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:15,880 Edwards and I just do it that way. 1321 01:09:15,880 --> 01:09:18,120 I I don't think I'm getting there on any of them. 1322 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:21,160 But it was a thought I had in my brain for a second. 1323 01:09:22,439 --> 01:09:24,680 It's such a weird needle to thread, right? 1324 01:09:25,399 --> 01:09:28,240 Gus Edwards vultures are going to be positively correlated with 1325 01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:32,319 like the Ravens rolling, but you don't want them to roll like 1326 01:09:32,319 --> 01:09:34,960 more than two games. Like you want the one game where 1327 01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,600 it gets you the two vultures and then they flame. 1328 01:09:37,880 --> 01:09:40,200 Flame out is probably what you need for that. 1329 01:09:41,880 --> 01:09:43,479 Yeah, cause, cause. But. 1330 01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:47,399 And then it's like, and who do they lose to, to then go to the 1331 01:09:47,399 --> 01:09:49,920 Super Bowl, where you're still feeling good about, like they 1332 01:09:49,920 --> 01:09:52,399 can't lose to the Bills, you know, 'cause then you're feeling 1333 01:09:52,399 --> 01:09:55,160 pretty buried by the Allen CMC teams? 1334 01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:57,400 If so, yeah, it does. What? 1335 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:00,320 You're hoping for is, and I can actually envision this, right, 1336 01:10:00,320 --> 01:10:02,880 You're going against the Cleveland Browns defense and 1337 01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:05,200 they run the ball. The Gus scores like a couple 1338 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:08,440 touchdowns in the first half. They control the game and then 1339 01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:13,800 at the end, Flacco just starts chucking it and he storms back 1340 01:10:13,800 --> 01:10:16,800 and like before the Ravens know it like it's like tied. 1341 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:19,360 And then they they like stall out on a drive. 1342 01:10:19,360 --> 01:10:21,800 They punt it back off to Flacco. Flacco comes marching down the 1343 01:10:21,800 --> 01:10:23,680 field, kick a game-winning field goal. 1344 01:10:24,240 --> 01:10:25,760 Ravens lose. They felt like they were gonna 1345 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,160 win the game the whole time and they. 1346 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:30,000 Played, Yeah. One of those, one of those 1347 01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:32,040 second halves where they have a bunch of three nows and they 1348 01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:34,200 just get like no plays on offense at. 1349 01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:35,600 All. Yeah, exactly. 1350 01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:37,320 And Gus was rolling in the first half. 1351 01:10:37,320 --> 01:10:39,960 He had a nice little score and then they then they lose is. 1352 01:10:40,600 --> 01:10:42,280 That gonna happen? That gonna happen. 1353 01:10:43,240 --> 01:10:46,400 It it I, yeah. Like I said, it rolled around in 1354 01:10:46,400 --> 01:10:48,920 my brain for a little bit. It's probably not making the the 1355 01:10:48,920 --> 01:10:50,520 cut. It's gonna end up on the I. 1356 01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,280 Think it just made my. Shopping floor. 1357 01:10:52,680 --> 01:10:54,080 Oh my gosh, I. Like it? 1358 01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:58,760 That's ready for it. It really is part with with 1359 01:10:58,760 --> 01:11:02,720 these backs too, where you you just have no pass catching stuff 1360 01:11:02,720 --> 01:11:07,760 to hang your hat on and then you have like Kareem, Hunt, Vulture. 1361 01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:10,760 There's just so many attack vectors for some of these plays. 1362 01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:17,320 One thought I had with with with sort of tight end ownership 1363 01:11:17,480 --> 01:11:25,280 condensing on Kelsey and and and Joku and obviously it Kel. 1364 01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:28,080 Kelsey's older the the the last couple of games have not been 1365 01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:30,680 great. It it it does feel like a year 1366 01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:33,880 where the the the overall tight end projections are are sort of 1367 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:36,800 low. And so if you if you can get a 1368 01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:42,520 fluke FFPC tight end game from a random guy like that that that 1369 01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:43,920 could be really, really meaningful. 1370 01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:48,960 Like, I know, Zach, you had said to me like a couple of weeks 1371 01:11:48,960 --> 01:11:52,960 ago, Jake Ferguson. Whereas like if Jake Ferguson 1372 01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:58,480 can just smash the other tight ends, not necessarily CD Lamb, 1373 01:11:59,040 --> 01:12:00,920 then that could be something that that. 1374 01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:04,960 Sort of works. Not like again, still like a low 1375 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:09,000 percentage play, but those sort of plays seem more in in play 1376 01:12:09,000 --> 01:12:11,600 than than before. Yeah, if you're playing like a 1377 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,800 Cowboys lose in in one or two you could. 1378 01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:18,680 But for me, like the I think Jake Ferguson's probably a 1379 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,360 little too gross for me to get there. 1380 01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,800 But like Dallas Goddard feels pretty good. 1381 01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:25,960 Especially like if it's really ambiguous on Saturday Still 1382 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:30,600 about the injury status of the Eagles and maybe people aren't 1383 01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:33,560 like get Goddard doesn't catch quite as much steam because 1384 01:12:33,560 --> 01:12:35,080 people think A.J. Brown might play. 1385 01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,680 People think you know Devonta Smith's fine. 1386 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,280 Maybe you just go Dallas Goddard and. 1387 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:43,000 Are you playing them to lose in that scenario? 1388 01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,240 Like are you then playing Mike Evans? 1389 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,360 Are you playing a buck skill player with him? 1390 01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:51,600 Yeah, I think so. I think with Goddard you 1391 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,800 probably do want them to lose because if they win he's 1392 01:12:54,800 --> 01:12:58,440 probably smashing cause A.J. Brown is out and then A.J. 1393 01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:01,760 Brown is maybe coming back and then the targets get diluted. 1394 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:05,280 He would be my the guy. I was gonna mention that to me 1395 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:08,640 checks all the box boxes that Draco is describing. 1396 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:12,120 Where the opportunity cost is low, the targets could be there. 1397 01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:14,800 It's Dalton Schultz. That's why I was literally just 1398 01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,560 about to say Dalton. Schultz I love oh, don't get me 1399 01:13:17,560 --> 01:13:19,720 on Dalton Schultz. I've been hammering him lately 1400 01:13:19,720 --> 01:13:21,200 in the playoff contest. I literally am. 1401 01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,920 I just pulled up Houston and I was just like waiting to see if 1402 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,320 you guys are gonna be psyched about Dalton Schultz and then 1403 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,760 raise his ownership to 5%, which is what I've just done. 1404 01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,400 I did just check because Noah Brown was looking dicey. 1405 01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:36,080 He is officially questionable. He got into practice today, so 1406 01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,840 it does look like he's gonna play, but like, still, that guy 1407 01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:41,360 who could just vacuum up. I mean, he's averaged 7 targets 1408 01:13:41,360 --> 01:13:45,360 over the past three weeks. He could easily get peppered in 1409 01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,800 that spot and have like a pretty sick score in a losing game at 1410 01:13:48,840 --> 01:13:51,840 just nil ownership. God damn it, I hate that. 1411 01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:56,000 How How right that is. You brought it up last night and 1412 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:57,640 I just pretended like you didn't say it. 1413 01:13:57,640 --> 01:13:59,520 And then like you got me tonight. 1414 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,240 He had eight catches against Cleveland last time. 1415 01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:02,840 No. There you go. 1416 01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:09,040 One other guy that I'll float, Fucker Craft. 1417 01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,760 Yeah, what's what's the splits with him in Musgrave right now? 1418 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,800 'Cause Musgrave's back now, right? 1419 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:19,280 Yeah, that's why is. You made. 1420 01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:20,680 Why? Why isn't? 1421 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:23,680 Fat cracking himself up. So I'm. 1422 01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,760 Not, I'm not. I'm laughing specifically at 1423 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:27,720 Zach. Just going. 1424 01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:33,240 Yuck. I just. 1425 01:14:33,240 --> 01:14:37,280 I would Musgrave back. I mean, he just do you want to 1426 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,000 play a tight end committee there in a really spread out offense? 1427 01:14:41,000 --> 01:14:43,320 I don't know. How's Musgrave looking? 1428 01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:44,800 Are we? Are we sure he's going to play 1429 01:14:44,800 --> 01:14:45,160 much? I. 1430 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:47,960 Mean. He's here, right? 1431 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:52,800 But yeah, this contest feels a lot more spread out than than it 1432 01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:55,280 has been in the past. And we're just sitting here like 1433 01:14:55,320 --> 01:14:59,280 naming all of these like ancillary pieces that I one of 1434 01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,080 these names is going to be right. 1435 01:15:01,160 --> 01:15:02,520 Like. I mean, it's definitely 1436 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,840 possible. I just think the thing, the 1437 01:15:04,840 --> 01:15:07,600 reason I like the Schultz stuff not to beat a dead horse is 1438 01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:09,640 because the opportunity cost is so low. 1439 01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:12,480 And you don't have to tell yourself these gal brain things. 1440 01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,880 Like with the Cowboys where it's like, well, Jake Ferguson scores 1441 01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:17,320 2 TDs and they lose. And like, you know, you don't 1442 01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:18,880 have to do that with the Dalton Schultz play. 1443 01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:22,520 And you're only fading, Nico, in terms of who's gonna actually be 1444 01:15:22,520 --> 01:15:24,600 in other people's lineups when a lot of these. 1445 01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:27,560 On the kicker, indeed. You have to fade like 3 or 4 1446 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:30,320 teammates that are gonna be in at least 15% of lineups and that 1447 01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:31,760 makes it really challenging, yeah. 1448 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,560 Yeah, I I take it back. Gibbs isn't the best play. 1449 01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,720 It's it's Schultz. Schultz is a really good play. 1450 01:15:39,040 --> 01:15:41,160 Paul Paul says dudes could literally sit around and name 1451 01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,040 fringe FMPC playoff contest plays it at the best time. 1452 01:15:44,040 --> 01:15:44,800 I mean that's. Really. 1453 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,400 What this? Entire week is. 1454 01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,480 That is part of the deal with with Gibbs though and I I do 1455 01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:52,960 think that's that's part of what makes me think that's a valuable 1456 01:15:52,960 --> 01:15:55,960 one is like I mean Almanac just have like a three catch game and 1457 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:57,840 and there's no one else that's being played for the Lions. 1458 01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:00,200 There's no Laporta, no one's actually going to go to Dave for 1459 01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:02,360 Montgomery, no one's playing golf. 1460 01:16:02,680 --> 01:16:05,600 So you don't get buried and you do fill a running back slot. 1461 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,240 I mean all it takes is he could have like a 12 point game and be 1462 01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,600 the right play. Although in that scenario you 1463 01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:12,200 might have just wanted to fade the Lions. 1464 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:17,360 Let me ask you guys this, Kelsey versus Pacheco, do you think 1465 01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,200 Pacheco can come in higher than Kelsey? 1466 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:23,840 I do. I think I had them really close. 1467 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:27,160 Let me. You originally had 44% Kelsey 1468 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:29,560 and 34% Pacheco. OK. 1469 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:34,760 I don't know if you updated that, but I currently have 1470 01:16:34,760 --> 01:16:38,680 Kelsey 41 and Pacheco 40, but I just have a few more tight end 1471 01:16:38,680 --> 01:16:40,560 percentages to play around with and I can flip them. 1472 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,160 I could do it if. You think of all the factors you 1473 01:16:43,160 --> 01:16:46,960 need for that to happen. The The only hang up is like a 1474 01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:50,680 tight end surging chalk to backfill it. 1475 01:16:50,680 --> 01:16:54,000 But when you think about how gross running back is and people 1476 01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:57,480 are out here hunting and just trying to find any other viable 1477 01:16:57,480 --> 01:16:59,480 running back play, no one likes Kelsey. 1478 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:03,040 Everyone hates Kelsey right now. It's like the only thing is, do 1479 01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,120 we have a champion, a new contender who can step up into 1480 01:17:06,120 --> 01:17:10,200 that spot? With McKinnon not likely to play 1481 01:17:10,280 --> 01:17:15,080 and yeah, I mean, I think Pacheco's humors. 1482 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:18,080 Love Pacheco too. Pacheco's the best RB2 play in 1483 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:19,400 the tournament though like he is. 1484 01:17:19,400 --> 01:17:21,480 He's legitimately a better player than Kyron too that 1485 01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:24,120 they're gonna probably their most likely outcome is to play 1486 01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:27,120 like 2 games right? Like that you probably this 1487 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,040 takes away. Some of Kyron's ownership, I 1488 01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:30,760 think. I think Kyron's gonna come in 1489 01:17:30,760 --> 01:17:33,040 lower own than we think if Pacheco was the highest. 1490 01:17:33,040 --> 01:17:36,240 Owner, I think you're right. What if I told you guys that ETR 1491 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:38,880 has Devon Singletary projected for more points this week than 1492 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:42,360 Pacheco? Oh, that would leave it below my 1493 01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,920 mind. The Pat, the the point about 1494 01:17:45,920 --> 01:17:47,640 Kyron. I've been feeling that was gonna 1495 01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:49,040 happen too. So I think that's. 1496 01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,320 I think that's right because everyone I'm hearing is saying 1497 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,200 play puka or cup. And yeah, no one wants to play 1498 01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,160 Kyron. Yeah. 1499 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,920 Yeah, I I I could be. I think this the not having it 1500 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,160 it it really does come down to Najoku. 1501 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:12,960 If Najoku can separate from Amari from the Browns D stuff, I 1502 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:14,200 I could certainly see it happening. 1503 01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,160 But Nijoku is clearly the hinge point on all of this. 1504 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:21,400 Should we build a team? Yeah, I actually already got us 1505 01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:26,880 registered here. I'm excited to see whether this 1506 01:18:26,880 --> 01:18:29,600 is a Gibbs, Pacheco or Colin Schultz team. 1507 01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:35,160 Let's start with with Drake and sacrilegious here. 1508 01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,200 Draco, why don't why don't you kick us off? 1509 01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,440 I will as a jungle. Maniacal laugh, yeah. 1510 01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:47,680 I'll go for good puka. Puka and the cool. 1511 01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:49,040 OK. All right. 1512 01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:54,080 I'm gonna. I'm gonna keep us pretty chalk. 1513 01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:57,760 But I think he comes in under what I would consider optimal. 1514 01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:00,120 We'll just go, Lamar. All right. 1515 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,280 Yep. I also, this just reminded me, 1516 01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:07,520 Pat, someone mentioned this in the comments of our video 1517 01:19:07,520 --> 01:19:09,160 yesterday and I thought it was a pretty good point. 1518 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,560 Just we know how even when you're doing like season long 1519 01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:16,240 home drafts, like people get anchored to the Yahoo ADP order 1520 01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:18,800 and stuff talking about like the order some of these guys are 1521 01:19:18,800 --> 01:19:21,920 listed in here unless you're on NFC where Carson Wentz is number 1522 01:19:21,920 --> 01:19:23,520 one. I do think it's kind of like an 1523 01:19:23,600 --> 01:19:27,680 interesting thing to not maybe like a really light tiebreaker. 1524 01:19:27,760 --> 01:19:29,640 I've just seen like, which guys funnel to the top. 1525 01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:32,160 That's interesting. Yeah. 1526 01:19:32,160 --> 01:19:34,000 I should, I should go in and and see. 1527 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:36,280 I mean, it is right there at Mostard Over 8 Chan. 1528 01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:38,640 I mean, I think right. I think people will break ties 1529 01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:40,920 to Mostert. Yeah, he's he's higher. 1530 01:19:40,920 --> 01:19:44,160 I mean, you got it. He's higher. 1531 01:19:44,160 --> 01:19:47,400 All right, Gretch, with they're giving you this pick. 1532 01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:49,160 Me. I don't. 1533 01:19:49,160 --> 01:19:51,160 Yeah, 'cause then we go, 'cause we went Draco set. 1534 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:55,000 Then we just go right down. Yeah, you know what I like when 1535 01:19:55,000 --> 01:19:58,040 we have the guests, I like just eating the chalk and letting 1536 01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,440 everyone else gal brain here because if we if we go to gal 1537 01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:03,960 brain then we can't, we got to wide it back. 1538 01:20:03,960 --> 01:20:06,520 So I'll go ahead and just put CD Lay of it and we could keep it 1539 01:20:06,520 --> 01:20:09,880 moving. We just said he was the best 1540 01:20:09,880 --> 01:20:12,240 player of the tournament, so I'm going to go Dalton Schultz. 1541 01:20:12,640 --> 01:20:14,200 There you go. I mean this. 1542 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:17,320 Had only Dalton Schultz. Yeah, I'm going to take. 1543 01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:21,080 I'm going to take Pete's line of thinking and do Christian 1544 01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:24,760 McCaffrey, and I want to see what these guys do at RB2 now, 1545 01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:30,480 All right? Back to the maniacal Draco I I 1546 01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:31,960 was hoping. I'd get somebody else to say 1547 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,160 this one I'll I'll go for Gibbs for or B2. 1548 01:20:35,760 --> 01:20:38,560 There you go. I I feel like it had to be after 1549 01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:41,240 the conversation here this this came preloaded with Gibbs and 1550 01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:44,680 Dalton Schultz. I'm going to go ahead and go 1551 01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:52,000 Mike Evans then. Yeah, he's he's a guy that I 1552 01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:56,080 feel like we haven't talked a lot about the box, you know, the 1553 01:20:56,080 --> 01:21:00,120 Eagles, I think are pulling most of the the discourse right now. 1554 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,640 But God, he's an awesome play. My God. 1555 01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:03,680 He is. He is. 1556 01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:04,680 Gibbs. Gibbs. 1557 01:21:04,680 --> 01:21:11,920 But not overwhelmingly. Gibbs and Schultz kind of pulls 1558 01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,840 Pacheco and Kelsey out of the lineup. 1559 01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:18,240 Is that accurate? That's how I'm That's how I was 1560 01:21:18,240 --> 01:21:18,840 leaning. I was. 1561 01:21:18,880 --> 01:21:20,640 Thinking that you could go rice, you're saying? 1562 01:21:21,480 --> 01:21:23,480 I think, yeah, I was just sort of thinking out. 1563 01:21:23,480 --> 01:21:25,520 I was wondering if that's what you guys were seeing as well? 1564 01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,560 I thought, you've been fading to Chiefs for a second, but yeah, 1565 01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:29,640 yeah, yeah. I think that's a really cool 1566 01:21:29,640 --> 01:21:32,320 angle, right, Gretch? Because we're going to want some 1567 01:21:32,320 --> 01:21:35,120 rice on our teams. And so then you ask yourself, 1568 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:37,280 what kind of teams do you get to? 1569 01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:40,200 Rashi Rice, right? That's what I was going to do, 1570 01:21:40,200 --> 01:21:45,320 yeah. I love it, but I got to pick 1571 01:21:45,320 --> 01:21:47,640 someone I guess first. OK, so if we're going. 1572 01:21:48,040 --> 01:21:49,560 No, it's up. It's back to Pete, actually. 1573 01:21:49,760 --> 01:21:52,080 Oh, it's back to Pete. Wait. 1574 01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:53,480 Well, I'll, I'll just, I'll, I'll do it. 1575 01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:57,560 I'll do the Rashi rice. Don't tempt him. 1576 01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,160 That was going to be my pick. I was picking up. 1577 01:22:00,520 --> 01:22:02,240 You just. Stole your idea. 1578 01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:13,080 All right, I'm going to go Jake Elliott, Eagles. 1579 01:22:13,120 --> 01:22:17,680 Just blow it. They are very good at at blowing 1580 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:24,560 it this year. Well, I'm gonna go Miami's. 1581 01:22:25,160 --> 01:22:26,960 No, I don't. We don't want to play Miami's 1582 01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,400 defense. And I guess if somebody want to 1583 01:22:30,400 --> 01:22:31,640 play Tyreke, they still could. What? 1584 01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:33,600 Do we have any games that we have not hit yet? 1585 01:22:35,480 --> 01:22:39,000 Any games? We need a brown. 1586 01:22:39,000 --> 01:22:40,280 No, we guess we don't need a brown. 1587 01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,640 We could pick them to lose. We've hit every game. 1588 01:22:43,000 --> 01:22:46,200 Oh, we don't have Buffalo. We don't. 1589 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,480 Yeah, we can throw digs in one. We haven't done any digs yet. 1590 01:22:50,360 --> 01:22:52,160 I don't like it. He's one of my least favorite 1591 01:22:52,160 --> 01:22:55,480 plays in the whole tournament. But I unless you guys want to 1592 01:22:55,480 --> 01:22:57,480 play the Bills in different direction here, but I think 1593 01:22:57,480 --> 01:22:57,800 digs. Is. 1594 01:22:57,800 --> 01:22:59,720 I mean, we're playing the Ravens Super Bowl. 1595 01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:02,400 What do you think? Like, is is Kincaid 2 1596 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:04,360 contrarian? We're already pretty contrarian. 1597 01:23:04,360 --> 01:23:06,320 We don't really need it either. Yeah, yeah. 1598 01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:08,400 I think part of the Schultz thing is like, it fills the 1599 01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:09,840 tight ends, right? You know. 1600 01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:16,560 So with Schultz, are we playing Cleveland to win, or are we 1601 01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,480 saying that Schultz is the optimal tight end over two 1602 01:23:19,480 --> 01:23:23,280 games? It's a good point. 1603 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:25,560 I think we should probably play Play A Brown. 1604 01:23:26,000 --> 01:23:31,320 Yeah, probably. And are we on, Amari then? 1605 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,960 Because we're off. Yeah. 1606 01:23:34,560 --> 01:23:36,960 I think this would probably be the spot to get your Amari 1607 01:23:36,960 --> 01:23:39,080 right. Yeah, this would be the spot to 1608 01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:40,640 do, Amari. This is a fun team. 1609 01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,040 Yeah, this took. A. 1610 01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,400 Lot of levels, yeah. A lot of good pivots. 1611 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,880 So 34 fade Miami maybe and the and the DST is. 1612 01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:54,880 The DST is Steelers. I think we could go Miami D if 1613 01:23:56,360 --> 01:24:00,880 we wanted to, we could right, Basically want to randomize D 1614 01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:01,840 so. Yeah, I think we can. 1615 01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:03,800 We can just randomize between these three. 1616 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,360 Yeah, I mean it's it's an interesting what what's 1617 01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:10,120 interesting about this build is you're full fading, the two 1618 01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:14,560 chock full fades, but you're so unique in so many other spots, 1619 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:22,440 which makes it fun. I like that. 1620 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:28,400 So for the audio listeners Lamar and CMC Jamir Gibbs Puka Nakua, 1621 01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,680 CD Lamb, Rashi Rice Mike Evans Amari Cooper Stefan Diggs, 1622 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:36,640 Dalton Schultz, Jake Elliott, Miami Defense, I this one's 1623 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:39,680 super fun to me because it doesn't feel like we're giving 1624 01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:42,600 up that much projected points. Like it doesn't feel Galaxy 1625 01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:47,280 brainy to me. Now all these pivots feel like 1626 01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,840 reasonable pivot plays that we've talked about when we've 1627 01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:52,440 hitting on these teams. We want to get a little Rishi 1628 01:24:52,440 --> 01:24:54,400 Rice in here. We want to get a little Amari in 1629 01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:56,000 here. We want to get a little Gibbs in 1630 01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:57,600 here, like they're all reasonable plays. 1631 01:24:58,440 --> 01:25:01,840 What I like about this line up is that every time we made a 1632 01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:05,800 pivot, we were like, what does that open up for this line up? 1633 01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:07,040 And then we took advantage of that. 1634 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,800 So like Dalton, Schultz, then we go to Amari, you know, then we 1635 01:25:10,800 --> 01:25:13,680 go to Rishi Rice. I love that pivot, right? 1636 01:25:14,160 --> 01:25:16,240 And so it it kind of all works together. 1637 01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:18,960 We get off, we get off Kyron because we get Gibbs. 1638 01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,760 We, you know, it's like. Would you say that this lineup 1639 01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:28,400 tells a story I was well? It it it's cool because like you 1640 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:32,160 said, I do think a lot of ways like phone shitter, hand 1641 01:25:32,160 --> 01:25:35,040 builders will do this contest is you'll make the one pivot, 1642 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:36,960 right. You will do just the Amman rod 1643 01:25:36,960 --> 01:25:39,520 of Gibbs and then build out. But then actually really 1644 01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:43,200 thinking through what does that open up roster construction wise 1645 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:45,320 and just send you down a completely different path in a 1646 01:25:45,320 --> 01:25:47,480 logical way is pretty cool. Yep. 1647 01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:54,360 I have with them 13 points and on weekly projection off of the 1648 01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,800 using the ether projection. 13 points off of the Boomer up 1649 01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,440 though. Oh, that's pretty good. 1650 01:25:59,520 --> 01:26:00,360 That's. Wow. 1651 01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:04,440 Yeah, with probably almost half the ownership half. 1652 01:26:04,640 --> 01:26:07,120 Yeah, that's insane. Like 2 turds the ownership. 1653 01:26:07,320 --> 01:26:09,440 We just We built the nuts Don't do bus Bros. 1654 01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:11,960 Yeah, don't do bus. This is too sick of a team. 1655 01:26:13,360 --> 01:26:15,680 Well, you'll know that Liam was gonna put this team in, but with 1656 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:24,120 Kincaid, so at least we've got. Yes, all right, I want to talk a 1657 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:30,000 little bit of underdog here. We definitely need to with with 1658 01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:33,840 sacrilegious here you've been firing, doing content, all kinds 1659 01:26:33,840 --> 01:26:35,440 of stuff. We still have some fun contests 1660 01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:39,560 up this fun the Gauntlet 2 up, which still has a lot of entries 1661 01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:43,720 remaining 50K to 1st. The little Gauntlet is about to 1662 01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,360 close like here within a few minutes. 1663 01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,280 So if you want to get your final ones in there, there's some 1664 01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,920 mittens. But sacrilege? 1665 01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:54,760 Just give us a little state of the playoff best ball landscape 1666 01:26:54,760 --> 01:26:56,840 with only a couple days to go here. 1667 01:26:57,520 --> 01:27:02,200 Yeah for for me this last like kind of home stretch has just 1668 01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:04,880 been still trying to get down volume. 1669 01:27:04,880 --> 01:27:12,000 I think I'm I'm approaching 900 teams now so we've is your goal 1670 01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:14,840 to hit 1000. That was my that was my original 1671 01:27:14,840 --> 01:27:17,080 goal. But it's feeling rather lofty at 1672 01:27:17,080 --> 01:27:21,120 this point, yeah. It's I was making fun of Davis 1673 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,880 for saying he had like, 275 on the swell cast. 1674 01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,400 Yeah, it's it's gonna be tough to get to 1000. 1675 01:27:27,400 --> 01:27:31,440 I my, my, like, new attainable goal is to just Max the gauntlet 1676 01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:35,960 too, which is rough like that's that's a lot of drafting from 1677 01:27:35,960 --> 01:27:38,120 when it dropped to you know, Saturday. 1678 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:40,720 And I it's not like I don't have other stuff to do but. 1679 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,080 Wait, what are you at right now? How many have you gotten in? 1680 01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:48,000 Oh, where are we at right now? Gauntlet 2 is at oh, I'm. 1681 01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,440 I'm just under the halfway point. 1682 01:27:49,440 --> 01:27:51,840 I got to 74. Pat, I don't know if you 1683 01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:54,240 noticed, but I was ripping Gauntlet 2, so we were streaming 1684 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:55,200 DK earlier. I didn't. 1685 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:57,320 I. Didn't. 1686 01:27:58,280 --> 01:27:59,280 That's great. No, you were. 1687 01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:03,000 You were. You were quite interactive, you 1688 01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:04,000 know. You remind me of. 1689 01:28:04,160 --> 01:28:07,560 You know, like a bodybuilder when, like, they're eating like 1690 01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,640 pounds and pounds of steak, but they eat so much steak they cry 1691 01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:15,320 when they do it. Yeah, it's no longer. 1692 01:28:15,320 --> 01:28:17,520 It's no. It's reached way past the point 1693 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,040 of enjoyment. This is not. 1694 01:28:19,080 --> 01:28:21,920 A good sacrilegious on our stream today was compared to DK 1695 01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:23,360 Metcalf or A.J. Brown. 1696 01:28:23,360 --> 01:28:26,280 Unclear which, but I mean now Bodybuilder as well. 1697 01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,000 And and nez asked all manual nez not only all manual. 1698 01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:35,840 How about all single table? I mean I I guess that's a little 1699 01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,920 bit of a stretch. There were some mittens where it 1700 01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:41,440 was. It was going where I had AI not 1701 01:28:41,440 --> 01:28:45,120 a ton. I I have time to touch grass 1702 01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:46,920 after I ship these playoff contests. 1703 01:28:48,400 --> 01:28:52,480 But no I I did multi table a couple but never really like. 1704 01:28:52,960 --> 01:28:57,920 Ideally not multi tabling. I I did at a time with because I 1705 01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:01,600 get the tool up and I'll get tool draft tool draft on each of 1706 01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:03,920 my monitors. A lot of the time I can get 1707 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,560 myself to the point where I can build my queue out well enough 1708 01:29:07,560 --> 01:29:10,640 to where if I never check it again after five or six rounds, 1709 01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,960 it'll be OK. And sometimes I can, like, tab 1710 01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,680 back if I need to. So that's how like a normal 1711 01:29:15,680 --> 01:29:19,240 draft takes. If I do a full draft without 1712 01:29:19,480 --> 01:29:21,840 switching before the end of round 10, it's 10 minutes. 1713 01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:24,960 And then if I do it the way that I do most of them, they're like 1714 01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:28,080 between 5:00 and 6:00 minutes, and then I might have to tab 1715 01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:31,840 back once. But right now it's been about 1716 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:37,000 just hammering the Texans and hammering the Bucks for me. 1717 01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:42,760 Because those teams can't come up in price enough now, like 1718 01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,840 with their their odds to make conference championship like 1719 01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,480 they're low, but with how good those players are for like 1720 01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:52,240 advance rate pieces. And like where they're just 1721 01:29:52,240 --> 01:29:55,320 stuck in ADP because of like all the volume that's gotten in. 1722 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:58,440 And you know, the Browns have now shot up and I had so much 1723 01:29:58,440 --> 01:30:02,400 Browns early, but it's like let me go ahead and get a ton of 1724 01:30:02,400 --> 01:30:05,120 Texans to try. And just like it's not 1725 01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,920 necessarily hedging the bet. I mean in some ways it is 1726 01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,320 hedging that bet a little bit because I like the Texans to 1727 01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,160 upset the Browns, you know. So I I want to play that game 1728 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:16,800 both ways. I've also been getting more Rams 1729 01:30:16,800 --> 01:30:20,400 and more bills now that we have the contest where the AD PS, you 1730 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:22,720 know, the historical AD PS don't matter as much. 1731 01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,600 That's kind of out on those lower probability playoff teams 1732 01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:28,600 earlier where I got some of them, but you know, I think I 1733 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:33,840 only ended up with like 6% Josh Allen in the the first Gauntlet. 1734 01:30:34,640 --> 01:30:38,120 So definitely good to to mix some of that in. 1735 01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,000 What I've been noticing now is you get a lot more casuals in 1736 01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:45,520 there and so it's just a lot more volatile in your rooms, 1737 01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:49,040 like you can build some absolute monsters and the vibes on Miami 1738 01:30:49,040 --> 01:30:51,800 are terrible. Like when I when I hear anyone 1739 01:30:51,800 --> 01:30:55,120 talk anything positive about Miami, I'm like, man, because 1740 01:30:55,120 --> 01:30:57,120 the best ball landscape does not reflect that. 1741 01:30:57,120 --> 01:30:59,960 Like people Tyreke Hill will drop to like the fifth round 1742 01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:02,720 sometimes, you know, like people don't want to click it at all. 1743 01:31:02,720 --> 01:31:04,800 Miami I don't know if you've heard Miami's never going to 1744 01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,800 score points again because they're in a Blizzard and you 1745 01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,760 know they'll just they're never going to score any fantasy 1746 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:10,800 points again for the rest of their. 1747 01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:12,040 Lives. I believe the definitive 1748 01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,320 analysis was to his brain was going to. 1749 01:31:14,320 --> 01:31:18,680 Freeze. I I was cracking up at that 1750 01:31:18,680 --> 01:31:22,160 yesterday. Yeah, I've been hitting. 1751 01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:24,640 I've been hitting the. Scientifically verified. 1752 01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:30,480 The 49ers hard at the back end of the draft, because you can 1753 01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:32,720 just take that. And then your best case scenario 1754 01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:35,920 is people with the 49ers slide. Because that's inexplicably 1755 01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,040 happening right now, too. Like I've gotten a couple 3 1756 01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:42,360 49ers combos. I've I've gotten ACMC Purdy 1757 01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,080 combo, which, like that hadn't been possible since, like the 1758 01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:48,440 first couple weeks of the first gauntlet. 1759 01:31:48,440 --> 01:31:52,680 So being able to get that in with the current ADP landscape, 1760 01:31:53,200 --> 01:31:56,120 that one feels like a a pretty strong team. 1761 01:31:57,560 --> 01:32:00,240 But then yeah, you you open yourself up to a really 1762 01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,240 favorable either Miami and San Francisco super team where 1763 01:32:04,240 --> 01:32:07,520 you're like I just get all the best Miami pieces and then I mix 1764 01:32:07,520 --> 01:32:12,000 in some Tampa Bay and Houston for advance rate stuff alongside 1765 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:14,200 that in case that Miami game is low scoring. 1766 01:32:14,880 --> 01:32:17,240 And then I I hope to sneak it into the second round and and 1767 01:32:17,240 --> 01:32:19,520 Miami upsets KC and then I'm cooking. 1768 01:32:20,920 --> 01:32:22,560 Yeah. That's kind of the state of of 1769 01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:26,680 the market currently. Yeah, yeah, Some of those, the 1770 01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:29,280 prices, Eagles or the other team, that's obviously just 1771 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:33,720 incredibly cheap right now. But what's weird to me is like, 1772 01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,720 you think about the Dolphin slide and like, you know, the 1773 01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,720 Chiefs maybe you could say, have stayed fixed or slightly pushed 1774 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,960 up. But it's not like the Bucks AD 1775 01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:46,040 PS are moving up in tandem with an Eagle's fade by the market, 1776 01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,680 which is really weird. I mean, yeah, it's not weird in 1777 01:32:48,680 --> 01:32:50,920 that the market isn't going to think rationally in that way, 1778 01:32:50,920 --> 01:32:54,520 but it's like, man, it does make the Bucks look really good in 1779 01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,920 that situation too. Yeah, I've been trying to see. 1780 01:32:59,120 --> 01:33:01,480 I've been drafting more on DraftKings the last couple days 1781 01:33:01,480 --> 01:33:05,200 and you can literally do stuff like you can do like Lamar and 1782 01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:09,240 get you like get some 49ers and like Zake Flowers and then just 1783 01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:15,040 stack the entire Eagles offense. That's I I understand the 1784 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:17,520 negativity around them, but that feels like kind of a cheat code 1785 01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:20,040 when you're you're like I need advance rate guys and I can just 1786 01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:22,840 take all the Eagles. Yeah. 1787 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,200 Yeah, and Pat is Pat's taking my helping of Eagles. 1788 01:33:27,200 --> 01:33:31,800 So you know, that way someone will win something for legendary 1789 01:33:31,800 --> 01:33:34,000 upside. It's either going to be Pat when 1790 01:33:34,000 --> 01:33:36,840 the Eagles smash, or it's going to be me with my full Eagle 1791 01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:39,440 spade. And you're just betting the 1792 01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:42,280 bucks out of it? I'm, I'm hammering the bucks 1793 01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,000 lately. I've gotten myself, I wasn't 1794 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,360 taking very many bucks at all early because they were just, 1795 01:33:47,440 --> 01:33:49,080 they weren't even a sure thing to make the playoffs. 1796 01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:54,080 I wasn't really touching any of the NFC South teams and I 1797 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:58,880 started taking my like, leans going into Week 17 or week 18 1798 01:33:58,880 --> 01:34:01,440 rather. Or I want to start mixing in 1799 01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:04,600 bucks and I want to start mixing in Texans because I think I'm 1800 01:34:04,600 --> 01:34:06,760 going to play like they each win their games. 1801 01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:10,080 And those are the pieces that I don't have exposure to in My 1802 01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,360 Portfolio where I really like them for like round one advance 1803 01:34:13,360 --> 01:34:16,640 rate purposes. And my my whole portfolio is 1804 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:21,280 like very heavily skewed 49ers. Ravens like Lamar is my most 1805 01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:25,080 owned quarterback at 20, just under 25%. 1806 01:34:25,120 --> 01:34:27,560 And that's come down substantially because I got him. 1807 01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,560 I was getting a ton of Lamar like the second and third round 1808 01:34:30,560 --> 01:34:33,160 and so I haven't been getting as much lately. 1809 01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:38,640 And then for wide receivers like all the 49ers guys, it's IU 1810 01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:43,280 Kittle, CD Lamb. Like those are all my my highest 1811 01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:45,920 owned guys. I don't have as much Debo 1812 01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:48,840 because he goes first out of those guys and I will always 1813 01:34:48,840 --> 01:34:51,040 take a 49er pretty much if they're there. 1814 01:34:51,480 --> 01:34:53,560 But. I have a question for you, 1815 01:34:53,560 --> 01:34:57,520 'cause I noticed when I was doing a lot of the early drafts, 1816 01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:00,560 like before the playoffs settled and I was doing Niner stuff, I 1817 01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:04,000 was, you know, doing a lot more of like the late Niner stuff, 1818 01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:05,880 right? Like, you know, all your Juwan 1819 01:35:05,880 --> 01:35:08,200 Jennings, the Gal Brain, Ronnie Bell type stuff. 1820 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:13,440 Now I I don't know if I'm, I've just lost the plot or if it's 1821 01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:16,160 because the playoff pictures more firmly focused and you can 1822 01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:18,320 kind of like put the puzzle pieces together more. 1823 01:35:18,320 --> 01:35:22,240 But I haven't been, like, tacking on as many Niners. 1824 01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:25,040 Have you been still like kind of doubling, tripling down with the 1825 01:35:25,040 --> 01:35:28,560 fringe Niners? We talked about this on the DK 1826 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:30,680 stream. We just did before ship chasing 1827 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,560 for leg up. But no, I haven't. 1828 01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,200 I'm in the same boat as you, Pat or Pete. 1829 01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:39,120 I haven't been doing the like Eli Mitchell or Juan Jennings as 1830 01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:42,840 much because often times you can play it through their Super Bowl 1831 01:35:42,840 --> 01:35:45,960 opponent so much better. It's like what's the probability 1832 01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:49,440 that Juwan Jennings scores greater than 0 in the Super 1833 01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:51,680 Bowl? Well, it's less than like any of 1834 01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:54,520 these other dart throws on the other side of their Super Bowl 1835 01:35:54,520 --> 01:35:56,520 opponent, right? And often times if you're 1836 01:35:56,520 --> 01:35:58,880 playing it through a non, if you're not playing it through 1837 01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:03,120 49ers, Ravens and it's like and I get a very small boost to my 1838 01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:05,840 round one advance rate, then because I'm getting, say it's 1839 01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:09,400 49ers Chiefs, it's like OK, who's got a better probability 1840 01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:13,240 of scoring any points, Juwan Jennings or the myriad Chiefs 1841 01:36:13,240 --> 01:36:15,240 punt wide receivers that you can do. 1842 01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:16,840 It's like they're all the same thing. 1843 01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:20,280 So let me get the guy who's going to help me advance like 1844 01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:24,880 5.1% extra in round one. Just like trying to get those 1845 01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:30,000 micro edges where I can. Yeah, that's been my, the exact 1846 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:33,600 same boat I've been in with that. 1847 01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:39,160 Pat, Gretch, Draco, any any other kind of thoughts you guys 1848 01:36:39,160 --> 01:36:41,400 have had on this and then we'll we'll definitely get in and rip 1849 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,280 a couple here. No, I'm kind of excited to get 1850 01:36:45,280 --> 01:36:48,080 back in the the Underdog St. zone and I've been as I 1851 01:36:48,080 --> 01:36:50,440 mentioned doing mostly DraftKings. 1852 01:36:50,440 --> 01:36:54,000 We launched A DraftKings tool on legendary upside in addition to 1853 01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:57,000 the Underdog 1. So kind of testing that out and 1854 01:36:58,640 --> 01:37:01,960 you know that's that's got tight end in a couple different ways 1855 01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:05,000 to think through it but I haven't really been drafting on 1856 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:09,640 underdog the last like 3 days. So everything's Zach's saying 1857 01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:12,760 about found the the landscape of of being able to get like CMC 1858 01:37:12,760 --> 01:37:15,800 Purdy again occasionally. I was like, I need to go for an 1859 01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,000 underdog. That's that's exciting. 1860 01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:21,720 Grouch, what about you? I know you. 1861 01:37:22,080 --> 01:37:24,640 Did you just repod with with Sean about this or were you guys 1862 01:37:24,640 --> 01:37:28,080 podding about FFPC? We did FFPCI. 1863 01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,320 I can't obviously do those here. I did a couple while I was 1864 01:37:31,320 --> 01:37:35,320 travelling, but it was hard during the travelling to get a 1865 01:37:35,320 --> 01:37:39,720 bunch in. Not, yeah, I don't, I don't have 1866 01:37:39,760 --> 01:37:41,920 anything nearly as advanced as what you guys are saying. 1867 01:37:41,920 --> 01:37:44,920 What? Were you gonna say Draco? 1868 01:37:45,680 --> 01:37:48,840 This is my yeah, this is my first year during the underdog 1869 01:37:49,000 --> 01:37:51,960 playoff contest and and and the biggest thing that's been 1870 01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:56,280 notable to me, the biggest thing that I, I I've, the biggest 1871 01:37:56,280 --> 01:38:01,520 lesson I've had to learn is that even more so than in normal and 1872 01:38:01,520 --> 01:38:06,320 best ball, you really need to think of when you take a player 1873 01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:10,680 who do they exclude you from and making sure that you leave the 1874 01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:15,640 maximum amount of options open and optionality, I guess. 1875 01:38:16,160 --> 01:38:20,120 No, you're you're 100% right because like sacrilegious. 1876 01:38:20,120 --> 01:38:22,760 I take so many Niners and you know I go into every draft being 1877 01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,400 like this is the one where I finally commit to the Jordan 1878 01:38:25,400 --> 01:38:28,360 love build and then I like double that DeVos save like 1879 01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:30,240 Brandon you're like well throw that out the window. 1880 01:38:30,240 --> 01:38:33,600 That's like every time like what are these days I'll actually get 1881 01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:35,320 forgot to have Packers on my team. 1882 01:38:35,760 --> 01:38:40,400 We it's funny because the and like you know I've done a 1883 01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:41,480 million of the. Oh, I haven't. 1884 01:38:41,480 --> 01:38:42,920 I mean Zach's literally done a million. 1885 01:38:42,920 --> 01:38:48,320 I've probably done like 200 and I'm still like, oh man, I could 1886 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:50,480 take Tyreek here. And then you're like, no, dude, 1887 01:38:50,480 --> 01:38:53,080 you took a cheat. You can't take Tyreek. 1888 01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:56,040 But it is this thing of like that that little part of your 1889 01:38:56,040 --> 01:38:58,400 brain that's like, oh, it's pretty cheap for Tyreek. 1890 01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:02,440 Like, you can't turn it off. Which is good because that's 1891 01:39:02,440 --> 01:39:05,160 kind of who we're battling. We're battling people who who 1892 01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:07,880 are doing a worse job of turning that off than than we are. 1893 01:39:08,760 --> 01:39:11,400 That's got to be one of the biggest pain points in the rooms 1894 01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:16,680 right now is like they both fit great for you Miami and KC and 1895 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:19,320 and they both slide. It's like, Oh my God, Mahomes is 1896 01:39:19,320 --> 01:39:22,520 on the board with all three of the Chiefs and Tyriq's here. 1897 01:39:22,720 --> 01:39:26,080 It's like pick 20, not. None of this should be here and 1898 01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:28,920 you have to pick one. And that's, that's the pain 1899 01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:31,480 point. And it's also so I mean these 1900 01:39:31,480 --> 01:39:33,640 these rooms too. I mean everyone see that people 1901 01:39:33,680 --> 01:39:36,200 complain on Twitter, whatever. I I think it's more funny but 1902 01:39:36,200 --> 01:39:39,240 it's like I still give people the benefit of the doubt. 1903 01:39:39,240 --> 01:39:42,520 I don't have the sacrilegious, you know, dossier on everyone 1904 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,760 where I'm like, oh, they they have the chiefs. 1905 01:39:45,160 --> 01:39:48,160 I can push this dolphin around the turn and then Nope, every 1906 01:39:48,160 --> 01:39:51,760 time it's it's still, it's like these rooms will never cease to 1907 01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:54,560 amaze you like they will. Every time you think like this 1908 01:39:54,560 --> 01:39:57,280 is going to be normal someone pulls a rabbit out of their hat. 1909 01:39:57,280 --> 01:40:03,040 It's it's phenomenal. I believe it. 1910 01:40:03,160 --> 01:40:03,800 Really. I thought it. 1911 01:40:04,160 --> 01:40:05,080 I've like. Fired some up. 1912 01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:06,400 Yeah, let's. Do it. 1913 01:40:06,400 --> 01:40:09,600 It is nice because there's there's times and last night we 1914 01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:11,800 we drafted a really nice one where it's like there's times 1915 01:40:11,800 --> 01:40:15,000 where every someone's just wiping people out, but it's not 1916 01:40:15,000 --> 01:40:16,960 you and you're just like that was a. 1917 01:40:17,160 --> 01:40:19,520 Beautiful what? A beautiful afternoon. 1918 01:40:20,200 --> 01:40:23,520 So, you know, I've, I've had some of these starts where 1919 01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:26,080 you're just like, Oh my God, like they're gonna, they're not 1920 01:40:26,080 --> 01:40:28,040 gonna leave me this dude too. And then they do. 1921 01:40:28,360 --> 01:40:32,280 And that's only possible by people drafting extremely badly. 1922 01:40:32,520 --> 01:40:33,840 Like when everyone stays in their lane. 1923 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:35,720 You can. You can assemble a nice team 1924 01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:39,120 regularly, but the only time you make super teams is when someone 1925 01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:42,920 else came barreling in from three lanes over and destroyed 1926 01:40:42,920 --> 01:40:46,280 someone else's team. And sometimes you can tell too. 1927 01:40:46,280 --> 01:40:50,800 Like in in the way the first like 8 picks go, you're like, Oh 1928 01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:54,200 my God, wait, these guys look like they were being rational. 1929 01:40:54,200 --> 01:40:58,040 This guy is clearly not. He just double tap Purdy Lamar, 1930 01:40:58,040 --> 01:41:01,440 you know or whatever and you're like wait, that's going to make 1931 01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:04,320 this guy do this? Which means this happens, which 1932 01:41:04,320 --> 01:41:06,320 means you're like. Oh, oh shit. 1933 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,680 That's going to fall to me like and and then it does and you are 1934 01:41:09,680 --> 01:41:12,760 the only one left standing in a room full of chaos. 1935 01:41:12,760 --> 01:41:15,560 Those are probably my favorite. That's like, that's why we play 1936 01:41:15,560 --> 01:41:17,320 the game. We play the game to watch 1937 01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,280 everyone else crash and burn around you and you're the last 1938 01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:23,120 man standing. Those are great, Yeah. 1939 01:41:23,120 --> 01:41:26,200 You can grab 900 to have four of those where you feel like the 1940 01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:30,960 king. I I'm, I'm currently ripping one 1941 01:41:31,000 --> 01:41:35,120 and I took Zay Flowers in the third round and a guy with Lamar 1942 01:41:35,120 --> 01:41:40,680 and Tyreek just went full tilt and took Mark Andrews. 3rd that 1943 01:41:41,040 --> 01:41:43,160 that is full tell. I saw someone take Justice Hill 1944 01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:45,440 over Zay Flowers in one of my rooms earlier today. 1945 01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:48,040 I was like, hoping Zay flowers would fall and it was like my 1946 01:41:48,040 --> 01:41:50,360 brain cell like the Baltimore. For a split second I was like oh 1947 01:41:50,360 --> 01:41:53,440 that's I was like wait, oh that was Justice Hill you selected? 1948 01:41:57,000 --> 01:42:01,160 Yeah. Gauntlet 2 here, two of 6/1 of 1949 01:42:01,160 --> 01:42:05,560 6/1 of five pretty big final 250 seat final here. 1950 01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:08,480 But the advance rate or the pods are pretty small. 1951 01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:13,440 Classic spot here at the Five right now where you're looking 1952 01:42:13,440 --> 01:42:17,960 at Debo, Purdy and Iuke. I normally click Debo here, but 1953 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:22,400 I'm open to to ideas. Yeah, I I pretty much always do 1954 01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:25,280 Debo here and you're just praying that same comes back and 1955 01:42:25,280 --> 01:42:27,560 if he doesn't, it's whatever. Yeah. 1956 01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:32,080 So the question if they do go Brock IUK, which is definitely 1957 01:42:32,080 --> 01:42:35,280 something that happens a decent bit, have you guys been going 1958 01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:40,120 kittle or pivoting to like an AFC digs or Tyreek? 1959 01:42:41,240 --> 01:42:45,000 I wouldn't ever really do digs. And I also hear because Allen's 1960 01:42:45,000 --> 01:42:47,960 gone and I and then you're like really in a world of hurt 1961 01:42:47,960 --> 01:42:50,640 because you're not playing it for Bill's 49ers Super Bowl. 1962 01:42:50,640 --> 01:42:53,880 And you also, it's like, is digs really that great a fantasy 1963 01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:57,640 projecting player right now, You know, oh, that's a gift. 1964 01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:00,880 Yeah, so the turn goes Aman, Raw and Hill. 1965 01:43:00,880 --> 01:43:03,720 I've actually been seeing this combo a decent amount. 1966 01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,160 But yeah, do you, Do you ever do? 1967 01:43:07,480 --> 01:43:10,600 I feel like I get Ayuk and Debo naturally, that I just always 1968 01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:11,880 take Purdy when I get it. Here. 1969 01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:13,960 Yeah, yeah. You take Purdy here because it 1970 01:43:14,040 --> 01:43:17,320 opens you up to letting something wonky happen. 1971 01:43:17,320 --> 01:43:19,920 You're praying you're in a room of people that are scared of the 1972 01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:22,320 bye. But you know, we've got Nez and 1973 01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:26,120 Crash Rich here at the 1-2 turn, so it's very unlikely we get our 1974 01:43:26,120 --> 01:43:29,480 3rd coveted 49er back. And yeah, the Lamar guy should 1975 01:43:29,480 --> 01:43:33,040 pretty much always take IU Kir as well, in my opinion. 1976 01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:36,000 So you know, it's unlikely that we get Kittle back. 1977 01:43:36,000 --> 01:43:39,320 But yeah, you you have to take Purdy to open yourself up to the 1978 01:43:39,320 --> 01:43:41,240 possibility of getting this back 'cause it has. 1979 01:43:41,480 --> 01:43:44,640 I've gotten a few of these, you know, but it doesn't happen 1980 01:43:44,640 --> 01:43:50,160 often. Yeah, Crash Rich goes CMC, 1981 01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:54,000 Kittle, Mahomes, Nesgos. Alan James Cook after Diggs went 1982 01:43:54,000 --> 01:44:03,480 right before him and now you know this is this is a spot 1983 01:44:03,480 --> 01:44:08,960 where we can go what a decent amount of directions like you 1984 01:44:08,960 --> 01:44:16,160 can do the KC stuff. What do you what do you like to 1985 01:44:16,160 --> 01:44:19,720 do here normally? If flowers made it, I'd just do 1986 01:44:19,720 --> 01:44:22,200 flowers and then I'm almost done with my. 1987 01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,680 Super Bowl roster Flowers didn't make it. 1988 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:25,600 Wow. So. 1989 01:44:25,960 --> 01:44:29,080 Now you're now you're basically done with your Super Bowl 1990 01:44:29,080 --> 01:44:30,920 roster, right? Like you only need two more 1991 01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:32,880 pieces and one of them's a running back. 1992 01:44:32,880 --> 01:44:36,160 So you know that you're taking one of Gus Edwards or Justice 1993 01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:37,320 Hill. And then your worst case 1994 01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:39,600 scenario is you get forced into an Eli Mitchell build. 1995 01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:44,360 And so from here it becomes really easy to plan the draft 1996 01:44:44,360 --> 01:44:47,160 out. And for me, I'm like with My 1997 01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:50,920 Portfolio where it is like 9 times out of 10 going to finish 1998 01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:53,680 this with like a Tampa Bay in Houston and then have those as 1999 01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:58,240 my quarterback options here. It's like Tony Pollard is just 2000 01:44:58,240 --> 01:45:01,680 such a giga smash because that's your highest probability 2001 01:45:01,880 --> 01:45:04,640 opponent of San Francisco in the conference championship. 2002 01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:07,880 You need running back points round one. 2003 01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,480 So yeah, I feel like Tony Pollard is a pretty easy click 2004 01:45:11,480 --> 01:45:13,360 here unless you're wanting to play it through Detroit. 2005 01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:16,960 But when you play it through Pollard, you get the better pass 2006 01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,480 catcher stack option of having Cooks available as well. 2007 01:45:20,480 --> 01:45:23,440 If he comes back to you where if you play it through Gibbs you're 2008 01:45:23,440 --> 01:45:27,200 like pretty stuck going to Jamison Williamson cause LaPorte 2009 01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:30,080 is still dicey to play. Yup. 2010 01:45:30,080 --> 01:45:35,800 So we start Purdy Zay Debo here. Grab Tony Pollard. 2011 01:45:36,520 --> 01:45:39,920 Yeah, the team. On the amount of shit you just 2012 01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:44,520 said, that's a 900 draft like breakdown there. 2013 01:45:44,880 --> 01:45:47,400 That was like such a fucking 900 draft. 2014 01:45:47,480 --> 01:45:50,560 Breakdown. So what I'm understanding you 2015 01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:54,440 said was that okay, so we've almost finished our Super Bowl 2016 01:45:54,440 --> 01:45:58,840 team and so right now we just need to pick players that were 2017 01:45:58,840 --> 01:46:01,600 avoiding round one and round two matchups. 2018 01:46:02,000 --> 01:46:05,280 Yep, and and we're allowed because we're going to have five 2019 01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:08,080 players on by here. We're allowed to break all the 2020 01:46:08,080 --> 01:46:11,280 rules, you know, ideally we don't want to have people that 2021 01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:15,080 play in round one and then it. It's an order of operations 2022 01:46:15,080 --> 01:46:18,640 thing though, right? It's like, preferably, no one 2023 01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:21,840 plays in round two, but if we've got people that are going to 2024 01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,520 play in round two, that's still preferred to people playing in 2025 01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:26,520 round one, right? So you're just kind of like 2026 01:46:27,040 --> 01:46:28,600 going through that. And then of course you're 2027 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:32,120 balancing like the fantasy projection that you can get from 2028 01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:33,720 that player to help you advance here. 2029 01:46:33,880 --> 01:46:35,920 And so that's why Pollard is so, so sweet here. 2030 01:46:35,920 --> 01:46:37,480 It's like Pollard will project fine. 2031 01:46:37,480 --> 01:46:39,480 They're they're big favorites at home. 2032 01:46:39,960 --> 01:46:42,200 You know he he should do just fine for you. 2033 01:46:42,440 --> 01:46:45,480 Then you can get Cooks who will also project fine and still be a 2034 01:46:45,480 --> 01:46:49,120 consistent bet and be a really strong piece in round two and 2035 01:46:49,120 --> 01:46:52,520 round three for you because it's now you're setting up a 49ers 2036 01:46:52,520 --> 01:46:55,560 Cowboys conference championship. Cooks goes here. 2037 01:46:55,800 --> 01:46:57,640 But that's fine. We've got all the outs in the 2038 01:46:57,640 --> 01:47:01,880 world because we've got Tampa Bay and Houston still available 2039 01:47:02,080 --> 01:47:04,160 and we don't even. This is the beautiful part. 2040 01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:05,800 We don't need to take Gus Edwards here. 2041 01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:07,680 We're taking one of Gus Edwards or Hill. 2042 01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:13,960 Then we're taking one of likely OBJ, Andrews, Bateman and 2043 01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,960 Aguilar, right. So like we're we're in such a 2044 01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:21,320 safe spot now that you you actually start reaching, so you 2045 01:47:21,320 --> 01:47:24,400 go all the way down and you secure whoever you care more 2046 01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:30,000 about between Evans or Collins. There's only a No more Dallas 2047 01:47:30,440 --> 01:47:32,760 potential Super Bowl running. What about Ferguson? 2048 01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:36,560 Fine. But I I like Collins and Evans 2049 01:47:36,560 --> 01:47:38,560 to project for better than Ferguson. 2050 01:47:38,560 --> 01:47:40,440 Right, get through round. One Who do you guys want, 2051 01:47:40,440 --> 01:47:42,440 Collins or Evans? Collins, personal. 2052 01:47:42,520 --> 01:47:45,200 Yeah, you're gonna get both here, by the way, 'cause that's 2053 01:47:45,200 --> 01:47:46,480 what we're doing on the next one. 2054 01:47:47,680 --> 01:47:49,480 But yeah, this. Is why you're concerned, 'cause 2055 01:47:49,480 --> 01:47:51,640 you don't have you only have five players. 2056 01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:55,320 In We gotta hit, We gotta Hit the The nuts, Ish the nuts 2057 01:47:55,320 --> 01:47:58,440 adjacent. You know it's it is 2A6. 2058 01:47:58,440 --> 01:48:01,800 So it's like that's that's why it's like we don't even need to 2059 01:48:01,800 --> 01:48:04,600 get that crazy. It's like shoot Mike Evans, Nico 2060 01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:08,400 Collins, Tony Pollard plus one and a quarterback stacked with 2061 01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:11,480 one of those pass catchers is like that's pretty live to 2062 01:48:11,480 --> 01:48:15,280 advance you know like and and again it's 33% base advance 2063 01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:17,880 rate. My goal is can I get myself to 2064 01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:21,680 20% advance rate with this with A5 by it's really hard. 2065 01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:25,200 You're probably looking at like between 10, you know, 10%, maybe 2066 01:48:25,200 --> 01:48:28,120 15 if you got some really good projected players. 2067 01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,720 But here Gus is still on the board, so you get Evans. 2068 01:48:31,720 --> 01:48:34,920 You cue both of the cue both the Baltimore running backs here. 2069 01:48:36,240 --> 01:48:39,880 And then you got to get your you got to remember your streamer 2070 01:48:40,160 --> 01:48:41,840 rules. You never cue anyone up. 2071 01:48:41,840 --> 01:48:45,680 You don't put that billboard up. You know Nez Nez is tilting that 2072 01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:48,440 he lost digs and he's ready to blow up some stacks right now. 2073 01:48:48,440 --> 01:48:53,400 There it goes, Gus. But yeah, well. 2074 01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:56,920 There are only 222 running backs we can have in the Super Bowl, 2075 01:48:56,920 --> 01:48:59,760 right? Yes, yeah, it's we. 2076 01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:04,040 We must have those. For but like I guess I would ask 2077 01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:09,840 sacrilegious would you like I I I do prefer Evans to to Chris 2078 01:49:09,840 --> 01:49:15,240 Godwin but just knowing that you feel pretty naked without 2079 01:49:15,760 --> 01:49:19,240 justice or Gus like would you ever just lock that up and just 2080 01:49:19,240 --> 01:49:21,600 see if Evans comes back and knowing that you will have the 2081 01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:24,120 Godwin fall back. Yeah, I definitely do. 2082 01:49:24,120 --> 01:49:27,280 But at this point, it's like both of them are on the board, 2083 01:49:27,280 --> 01:49:29,800 so I have cover for it. Usually when I'm drafting, I'm 2084 01:49:29,800 --> 01:49:34,280 like looking at is there anyone number one, are there illogical 2085 01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:36,960 drafters in here, you know, that are picking between me and my 2086 01:49:36,960 --> 01:49:40,480 next pick #2 for the logical drafters? 2087 01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:43,800 Is there someone that would want to build out Ravens? 2088 01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,800 And then are there two people that would want to build out 2089 01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:47,600 Ravens? Because most people building out 2090 01:49:47,600 --> 01:49:51,280 Ravens aren't going to be in a spot where both Gus and Justice 2091 01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:53,360 make sense. This guy's surely going to do it 2092 01:49:53,360 --> 01:49:55,880 here though. I always waited famous last 2093 01:49:55,880 --> 01:49:56,240 words. Here. 2094 01:49:56,240 --> 01:49:59,360 Oh, it's it's happening. He should take likely, yeah. 2095 01:49:59,440 --> 01:50:03,920 Yeah. And then I haven't, I haven't 2096 01:50:03,920 --> 01:50:06,040 been paying attention to Eric 54. 2097 01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:08,160 He does have. Oh no. 2098 01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,520 Oh no. It's Joker. 2099 01:50:12,480 --> 01:50:15,960 And he he's been waiting until round seven. 2100 01:50:15,960 --> 01:50:18,440 Just do Odell for kicks. But you you need to lock up 2101 01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:23,720 Odell here. He's making a sweat. 2102 01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:29,840 Guard don't. Do that now, you jam justice in. 2103 01:50:29,960 --> 01:50:33,120 We thank our lucky stars. But yeah, these are that's like 2104 01:50:33,120 --> 01:50:37,240 a spot Pete will always be willing to reach on a guy, 2105 01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:38,880 'cause it's like the linchpin of your bill. 2106 01:50:38,880 --> 01:50:41,920 That's like the probability Justice Hill scores any points 2107 01:50:41,920 --> 01:50:44,840 in the Super Bowl versus the probability Eli Mitchell or Kyle 2108 01:50:44,840 --> 01:50:47,240 Youscheck. You know, it's like, oh God, I 2109 01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:50,320 would much rather be playing on the Justice Hill side of that, 2110 01:50:50,320 --> 01:50:51,600 so. Yeah. 2111 01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:58,760 So we are going to have what one more we're going to take a 2112 01:50:58,840 --> 01:51:01,960 quarterback, which we have the optionality for either, and then 2113 01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,760 it's Odell. We windmill Odell here because 2114 01:51:04,760 --> 01:51:08,040 we were like winning this. If if this gets to the Finals 2115 01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:11,480 and it's 49ers, Ravens, we win. You know, the only the only 2116 01:51:11,480 --> 01:51:14,960 thing that we're then up against is headless CMC teams that can 2117 01:51:14,960 --> 01:51:17,440 beat us. So CMC teams without a 2118 01:51:17,440 --> 01:51:21,960 quarterback and the nuts like CMC that got AIUK plus to you 2119 01:51:21,960 --> 01:51:25,920 know Gus Edwards and another good player or you're looking at 2120 01:51:25,920 --> 01:51:32,560 a Lamar team that of course doesn't have CMC probably can't 2121 01:51:32,560 --> 01:51:36,560 have Devo. So you're you've got clean paths 2122 01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:39,640 to win in all those and we have pretty high projected players 2123 01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,520 with them and a lot of people have like those ancillary 2124 01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:45,880 Baltimore pieces at the end. So we're in a really good spot 2125 01:51:45,880 --> 01:51:49,040 here and and like there's no real way for people to box us 2126 01:51:49,040 --> 01:51:52,880 out of a a piece that still is within structure for us. 2127 01:51:54,560 --> 01:51:57,760 That would be like the last good projected piece, and we've got 2128 01:51:57,760 --> 01:52:00,040 multiple quarterback outs and they're not desirable 2129 01:52:00,040 --> 01:52:01,560 quarterbacks typically for people. 2130 01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:05,240 How? How granular are you looking at 2131 01:52:05,240 --> 01:52:09,400 your like portfolio from a combo standpoint? 2132 01:52:09,400 --> 01:52:11,920 Like I assume you've drafted a similar version of this team 2133 01:52:11,920 --> 01:52:13,720 many times. Are you trying to be like, all 2134 01:52:13,720 --> 01:52:16,760 right this time I want to get like Gus and likely instead of 2135 01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:20,440 you know Justice and Odell are are you trying to to do that? 2136 01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:23,920 No, it'll happen naturally over the course of the volume that 2137 01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:25,760 I'm getting in. The rooms are so random. 2138 01:52:25,760 --> 01:52:29,280 And also you've got the pod variants of like, I I wouldn't 2139 01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:32,400 care if I had. If you told me I had fifty teams 2140 01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:36,240 that were literal, like, you know, 10 player copies on 50 2141 01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:38,600 teams. If they were a good team, like, 2142 01:52:38,600 --> 01:52:41,120 cool, yeah, give me 50 of them. Cause a lot of them are gonna 2143 01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:42,880 die in the pots. You just want to feel what you 2144 01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:44,600 can get. Through and I I play a way 2145 01:52:44,600 --> 01:52:47,960 higher risk style than I think a lot of people are comfortable 2146 01:52:47,960 --> 01:52:51,760 playing like I'm I'm good, you know even if I get down to like 2147 01:52:51,760 --> 01:52:56,120 a 15% global advance rate on all my two of six stuff, like I have 2148 01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:58,760 a lot of confidence that I've built well enough that I'm still 2149 01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:01,160 wildly positive expected value. So. 2150 01:53:01,840 --> 01:53:04,880 Stroud for you guys. Yeah, yeah. 2151 01:53:05,440 --> 01:53:06,520 Yep. Yep. 2152 01:53:07,840 --> 01:53:11,680 All right, so this team, yeah, comes together really nicely. 2153 01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:12,720 We. Got one more player, we. 2154 01:53:12,720 --> 01:53:14,800 Got one more pick, right? Oh yeah, who? 2155 01:53:15,800 --> 01:53:18,600 Now it's down one. Receiver and now it's dealer's 2156 01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:21,640 choice, it's you can either go running back you can go like 2157 01:53:21,640 --> 01:53:26,600 Devon Singletary, you can go you can get Dalton Schultz, you can 2158 01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:30,120 go Chris Godwin. So yeah, that's why that's why 2159 01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:34,800 this fits so so nicely, right? Cause none of these are bad 2160 01:53:34,800 --> 01:53:38,800 projecting players either. Right, because we already have 2161 01:53:38,800 --> 01:53:41,240 our Super Bowl 5 and we have one. 2162 01:53:41,240 --> 01:53:45,680 Now we just need our final. First round five. 2163 01:53:46,440 --> 01:53:48,880 I think it would be Godwin who projects the best here. 2164 01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:53,400 I think I bet you're has single. Terry as the, as the. 2165 01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:56,440 Highest and I I do a good amount Terry. 2166 01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:59,560 Yeah. But I've I've also hammered some 2167 01:53:59,560 --> 01:54:03,960 Schultz yeah. But anyway, this is I got a gang 2168 01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:07,080 of teams that are like this. Exactly. 2169 01:54:07,080 --> 01:54:10,480 Basically, yeah. This is a cool team. 2170 01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:17,240 I I I hope so. Yeah, so for the for the audio 2171 01:54:17,240 --> 01:54:21,600 listeners here, Brock Purdy and CJ Stroud at quarterback, Tony 2172 01:54:21,600 --> 01:54:24,680 Pauler, Justice Hill, Devin Singletary at running back, Debo 2173 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:28,360 Zay, Nico Evans, Odell at wide receiver. 2174 01:54:28,440 --> 01:54:33,880 So obviously round one no points from Brock, Justice, Debo, Zay, 2175 01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:38,760 Odell and on the flip side we will need to get scores from 2176 01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:42,920 Stroud, Pollard, Singletary, Nico, Evans. 2177 01:54:43,320 --> 01:54:46,160 That's a strong five. If you're going to just have 5 2178 01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:49,560 project, well yeah. It's like we got, we got our 2179 01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:53,560 10%, you know we got at least our 10% equity here to advance 2180 01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:57,040 out of round one. Yeah, yeah. 2181 01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:58,520 And this, that's the thing too, right? 2182 01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:00,880 Then you can start going and looking at. 2183 01:55:01,320 --> 01:55:04,000 You know the other teams like normally, right? 2184 01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:07,200 The Lamar team also oops, isn't going to. 2185 01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,920 Project Super Well, but. This guy didn't really load up 2186 01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:12,200 on a ton of bye weeks, so his advance rate will probably be 2187 01:55:12,240 --> 01:55:15,880 slightly better than expected relative to most Lamar teams. 2188 01:55:17,160 --> 01:55:20,640 But I do think you want to think about like what are you able to 2189 01:55:20,640 --> 01:55:23,800 get through like you almost don't even to some extent you 2190 01:55:23,800 --> 01:55:26,880 don't want to like think about round one and how painful that's 2191 01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:28,920 going to be. Let's think about we are 2192 01:55:28,920 --> 01:55:32,000 unwrapping our our presence in round two. 2193 01:55:32,000 --> 01:55:33,840 Oh, what did I get through? Oh, look at this guy. 2194 01:55:34,240 --> 01:55:38,960 And it's like full Ravens, 49ers stuff. 2195 01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:42,320 It's going to be so much more powerful than the people who 2196 01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:45,560 just go like Lamar Zay and then, like, don't really build it out, 2197 01:55:45,560 --> 01:55:48,080 'cause they're worried about not advancing like they do have a 2198 01:55:48,080 --> 01:55:49,120 better chance of getting through. 2199 01:55:49,120 --> 01:55:53,680 But then when they when they go in and unwrap that team, it's 2200 01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,160 like, ah shit, 'cause you still have a long way to go. 2201 01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,880 Because the the thesis too. Because you might be like, well, 2202 01:55:59,880 --> 01:56:02,200 you'll you'll OK, you'll have the bare minimum 5 for a 2203 01:56:02,200 --> 01:56:05,000 starting line up. But it's like we'll be what did 2204 01:56:05,000 --> 01:56:08,120 you look at the data Zach? Was there any teams that advance 2205 01:56:08,120 --> 01:56:10,800 with six Spies from round one like I? 2206 01:56:11,320 --> 01:56:14,480 Didn't look at that. The the thing that I was looking 2207 01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:18,360 at to like kind of give me a sense of how easy or hard it is 2208 01:56:18,360 --> 01:56:22,160 to advance out of round one is there were about 5% of teams 2209 01:56:22,160 --> 01:56:24,920 that could have advanced with a zero at quarterback. 2210 01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:29,120 You can take a stone zero at QB. So I I kind of use that as like 2211 01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,400 my and that was with a one out of six, right? 2212 01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:35,880 So 5% is kind of like your minimum that you could possibly 2213 01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:37,400 advance. Like your advance rate should 2214 01:56:37,400 --> 01:56:40,920 never really be lower than 5% provided you're not trolling. 2215 01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:45,000 You know like if you if you drafted like Rico Dowdall, Jalen 2216 01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:49,400 Tolbert and you know Michael Gallup as three of your five 2217 01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:52,360 only active players like OK yeah, you can get under 5%. 2218 01:56:52,360 --> 01:56:56,200 But but if you're if you're playing this for real like 2219 01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:59,880 you're you're probably floor is like 5% and since this is 2 of 2220 01:56:59,880 --> 01:57:02,000 6. I'd say it's probably not 2221 01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:04,240 totally linear. You're not going to go from 5% 2222 01:57:04,240 --> 01:57:06,400 to 10%. You're probably like right in 2223 01:57:06,400 --> 01:57:08,560 between there. So maybe like your bare minimum 2224 01:57:08,560 --> 01:57:11,400 worst case scenario that you can advance when you're sitting at a 2225 01:57:11,400 --> 01:57:15,240 full 5 lineup, it's like 8% maybe in a room. 2226 01:57:16,320 --> 01:57:19,040 And that's kind of what I've I've estimated at. 2227 01:57:20,520 --> 01:57:24,400 And yeah I think that for even where I played pretty aggressive 2228 01:57:24,400 --> 01:57:27,520 where I'm not getting a 5 by team but if I've got four on buy 2229 01:57:27,520 --> 01:57:30,120 or three on buy like those are the ones where I'm like I can 2230 01:57:30,120 --> 01:57:33,720 pretty easily get up to 20% advance rate on those suckers. 2231 01:57:34,600 --> 01:57:36,760 And then of course I've got my builds where it's like I didn't 2232 01:57:36,760 --> 01:57:39,480 end up with bye wee teams here I I ended up with you know like a 2233 01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:43,080 Dallas and Buffalo Super Bowl and this is a powerhouse to 2234 01:57:43,080 --> 01:57:47,040 advance and that's I'm I'm going to be like if not you know 33% 2235 01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:48,880 like I might even be a little better than 33. 2236 01:57:48,880 --> 01:57:51,880 So like globally across the portfolio, I think if you're 2237 01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:54,440 playing the game correctly, you probably should be shooting for 2238 01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:57,800 like a 20% first round advance rate and you can ratchet that 2239 01:57:57,800 --> 01:58:00,000 down if you play super duper aggressive but. 2240 01:58:00,600 --> 01:58:01,960 Yep. Yeah. 2241 01:58:01,960 --> 01:58:05,240 And so and you mentioned the stuff about throwing out the 2242 01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:08,520 rules. So like obviously here you know 2243 01:58:08,680 --> 01:58:12,960 if Houston wins then they would run into Baltimore assuming 2244 01:58:12,960 --> 01:58:16,440 Miami didn't win. But in that you're just like I I 2245 01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:19,920 do not care because I am trying to get this 5 bye week team that 2246 01:58:19,920 --> 01:58:23,440 no one else is is going to have. Yeah, exactly. 2247 01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:26,040 And and so when that happens, we still get. 2248 01:58:26,040 --> 01:58:27,560 So Houston wins in the first round. 2249 01:58:27,560 --> 01:58:29,640 Right now they're in the second round. 2250 01:58:30,960 --> 01:58:33,160 Now this is Gauntlet too. So they're going to be much 2251 01:58:33,160 --> 01:58:34,600 higher owned in this, their draft. 2252 01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:36,640 You know, Nico Collins is drafted almost every single 2253 01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:39,040 draft. Devin Singletary, their drafts 2254 01:58:39,040 --> 01:58:41,400 or he doesn't get drafted and Stroud their drafts, he doesn't 2255 01:58:41,400 --> 01:58:43,200 get drafted. But you go to round two, you're 2256 01:58:43,200 --> 01:58:45,920 going to see other Houston teams, but you do get that 2257 01:58:45,920 --> 01:58:49,360 second game out of them. And then you're into round three 2258 01:58:49,960 --> 01:58:53,200 where all of a sudden it's a lot harder if you're correct and San 2259 01:58:53,200 --> 01:58:55,120 Francisco and Baltimore are still alive. 2260 01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:59,400 It's so, so, so much harder for people to have, you know, a full 2261 01:58:59,400 --> 01:59:01,480 roster of 10 players at that point. 2262 01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:05,080 I would say almost impossible. And so then you're sitting there 2263 01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:09,480 with, you know, say that you got, you know, just the it's 2264 01:59:09,480 --> 01:59:12,920 just it's Dallas, San Francisco and Baltimore there. 2265 01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:15,760 Well, shoot, OK, We got 6 live right. 2266 01:59:15,760 --> 01:59:18,040 And that's going to be better than a lot of our opponents 2267 01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:21,440 where we've got got a good number of people just blocked 2268 01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:24,360 out right there, where they're dead to advance to us. 2269 01:59:24,720 --> 01:59:27,360 And because it's a party team, if Houston somehow beat 2270 01:59:27,360 --> 01:59:29,680 Baltimore, you could still play San Fran. 2271 01:59:29,920 --> 01:59:31,400 Houston, right? Yeah, yeah. 2272 01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:34,600 And that's, you know, that's like a 2% outcome, you know, but 2273 01:59:34,600 --> 01:59:38,360 it's like getting. That's why in the in the article 2274 01:59:38,360 --> 01:59:41,280 it's like, yeah, you do prefer to have your second quarterback 2275 01:59:41,280 --> 01:59:43,800 on the opposite side of your first quarterback when you're 2276 01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:45,920 doing bye week stuff. But again, it's. 2277 01:59:47,360 --> 01:59:49,920 That's not the driving thing. Valerie would be the driving 2278 01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:51,360 thing. Yeah, I wrote the article 2279 01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:53,960 initially just to try and get people to like, all right, 2280 01:59:53,960 --> 01:59:57,480 everybody, let's draft like some live teams and follow the basic 2281 01:59:57,480 --> 01:59:59,320 rules. But like, I feel like people 2282 01:59:59,320 --> 02:00:01,640 have picked up on it really fast. 2283 02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:05,640 Like I've noticed lots of lots of people in rooms like drafting 2284 02:00:05,640 --> 02:00:08,680 pretty good now. And so I feel like it's now. 2285 02:00:08,680 --> 02:00:10,720 Now that we're we're collectively there as a 2286 02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:13,080 community, we kind of get like the basics of the game, like. 2287 02:00:13,520 --> 02:00:16,520 Now it's starting to understand like where you deviate from 2288 02:00:16,520 --> 02:00:18,520 those rules and where you break them and where you make 2289 02:00:18,640 --> 02:00:21,600 decisions that would be different than the conventional, 2290 02:00:21,600 --> 02:00:23,720 like rules of thumb that I've given. 2291 02:00:24,120 --> 02:00:26,800 And that's like the next level of how you get to be really 2292 02:00:26,800 --> 02:00:28,520 good. And that's I bet you just with 2293 02:00:28,520 --> 02:00:30,880 how fast. To me it seems like the game 2294 02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:32,440 advanced from last year to this year. 2295 02:00:32,640 --> 02:00:34,480 I bet you next year is all about that. 2296 02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:36,240 That's where the edges are. You're going to end up with a 2297 02:00:36,240 --> 02:00:39,800 lot of these cookie cutter people following four teams that 2298 02:00:39,800 --> 02:00:42,960 they're predicting into the conference championship type of 2299 02:00:42,960 --> 02:00:45,800 builds. And then it comes down to like, 2300 02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:49,720 OK, now you need to figure out we we talk about like, reaching 2301 02:00:49,720 --> 02:00:53,000 into the jar of only the jar of plus EV teams over here, like 2302 02:00:53,000 --> 02:00:54,800 follow the rules. They're all gonna probably be 2303 02:00:54,800 --> 02:00:57,040 plus EV. And then over here there's a jar 2304 02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:58,320 where there's a bunch of shit in it. 2305 02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:00,560 But there's also some pretty nice teams You don't really want 2306 02:01:00,560 --> 02:01:02,320 to reach your hand into this one. 2307 02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:05,600 Next season's going to be about you got to be willing to wade 2308 02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:07,680 into the the stinky jar. But you know it. 2309 02:01:07,680 --> 02:01:09,480 It's actually. It's interesting because the 2310 02:01:09,480 --> 02:01:13,600 better the overall field is drafting, the more that those 2311 02:01:13,600 --> 02:01:14,960 types of builds become interesting. 2312 02:01:14,960 --> 02:01:20,480 Because you're now you're saying like I need Mike Evans on this 2313 02:01:20,480 --> 02:01:24,600 team because I'm trying to advance these 49ers and Ravens. 2314 02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:28,840 Well, Mike Evans is more likely to be there when everyone's kind 2315 02:01:28,840 --> 02:01:31,480 of staying in their own lane and building out these teams where 2316 02:01:31,480 --> 02:01:34,560 they've got a coherent conference championship game. 2317 02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:38,080 You know he's not he's he's more of an an advance rate round one 2318 02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,920 type of guy. There are scenarios where it 2319 02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:44,080 makes sense to grab him as your third NFC team, you know when 2320 02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:46,560 you're trying to advance these mega bye week teams. 2321 02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:51,360 So I think it actually that cause the game develops then 2322 02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:54,320 those opportunities will become a little bit more appealing 2323 02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:56,040 even. The other thing is that if the 2324 02:01:56,040 --> 02:01:59,280 49ers and the Ravens are the Super Bowl this year, that's two 2325 02:01:59,280 --> 02:02:02,400 years in a row that we're going to have had one seed, one seed, 2326 02:02:03,000 --> 02:02:07,080 and then that will dominate. The narrative next year will 2327 02:02:07,080 --> 02:02:10,080 become all about how do I get the two one seeds in 'cause 2328 02:02:10,080 --> 02:02:13,080 obviously that's what happens now in the NFL play offs, and 2329 02:02:13,080 --> 02:02:14,160 that's the only thing that can happen. 2330 02:02:15,760 --> 02:02:17,120 Let me ask you one more question. 2331 02:02:18,600 --> 02:02:23,280 Sacrilegious. Would you say we did Nico and 2332 02:02:23,280 --> 02:02:29,000 then say you did Jayden Reed, Aaron Jones and Jordan Love 2333 02:02:29,000 --> 02:02:32,680 instead of Evan Stroud? Singletary is the only 2334 02:02:32,680 --> 02:02:36,640 difference for you in that Just obviously that the odds for the 2335 02:02:36,640 --> 02:02:40,400 Texan stuff to hit or or win a game is greater than the 2336 02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:42,840 Packers, but structurally you would be OK with that. 2337 02:02:43,240 --> 02:02:46,680 No 'cause we also have Pollard, and so that's a little painful. 2338 02:02:46,680 --> 02:02:49,240 There bad. Example but but but yeah I get 2339 02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:54,960 what you're saying and like yeah if if instead we cause like we 2340 02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:57,400 could technically have done my like there's rooms where you 2341 02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:02,040 could do a Miami thing here you know and so yeah like we 2342 02:03:02,040 --> 02:03:07,800 technically could do Miami in in a room where that fell But yeah 2343 02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:11,640 for for me I just I really like the spot too like this is a 2344 02:03:11,640 --> 02:03:15,320 small player take thing but for these round one advance type 2345 02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:19,160 ones now I'm getting more into my player takes hat and like how 2346 02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:23,600 is this game actually gonna go and like I could I could see 2347 02:03:23,600 --> 02:03:26,600 this being a pretty high scoring game So I'm like I'm really 2348 02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:30,720 happy to have pieces in it And again like I mentioned this for 2349 02:03:30,720 --> 02:03:34,560 my my own specific portfolio I got so much brown stuff when 2350 02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:38,240 they were free shadows and Daniel Raz for just pounding. 2351 02:03:38,240 --> 02:03:41,680 The table on. Joe Flacco and so now it's like, 2352 02:03:42,040 --> 02:03:44,840 God, I feel like I can put myself in a really, really 2353 02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:47,800 strong position because I've got a lot of these two bye week 2354 02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:50,800 teams with Browns to get them through and now it's like, but 2355 02:03:50,800 --> 02:03:54,600 what if that doesn't work out? Let me try 2 bye week teams with 2356 02:03:54,600 --> 02:03:58,480 the Texans to get them through. And so that's and I to kind of 2357 02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:01,120 dovetail that as well with like the way that I've, I've talked 2358 02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:04,040 about like how you play these lower probability teams to make 2359 02:04:04,040 --> 02:04:05,920 the playoffs or like the fringe teams. 2360 02:04:06,880 --> 02:04:11,160 And like, I wasn't really taking Tampa Bay or Houston or, you 2361 02:04:11,160 --> 02:04:15,880 know, Indy or the Packers or the Steelers or any of these teams 2362 02:04:15,880 --> 02:04:18,760 that were like, they could make it or they they might not. 2363 02:04:19,360 --> 02:04:22,440 Is because like, sure, if you took some of them during the 2364 02:04:22,440 --> 02:04:25,240 first gauntlet, like, yes, you're unique in the fact that 2365 02:04:25,520 --> 02:04:29,560 those don't exist a bunch, but the benefit of the uniqueness 2366 02:04:29,560 --> 02:04:31,920 doesn't matter at all in round one, really, 'cause you're the 2367 02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:33,800 only one with the copy of those players. 2368 02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:37,160 And then you're losing the effectiveness of that uniqueness 2369 02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:40,320 as you go into the deeper rounds because those teams are lower 2370 02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:44,040 probability, even get there. So it's like sick you've got 2371 02:04:44,040 --> 02:04:46,680 some Packers back in the first gauntlet when no one even 2372 02:04:46,680 --> 02:04:48,040 thought they were making the playoffs. 2373 02:04:48,440 --> 02:04:50,480 It's going to be really cool when they get knocked out in the 2374 02:04:50,480 --> 02:04:53,880 first round and help you advance as you're super unique bro. 2375 02:04:55,200 --> 02:04:58,880 But but now nothing happened. Nothing bad happened to like I 2376 02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:02,000 didn't have a ton of Houston's. I didn't have a ton of Tampa 2377 02:05:02,000 --> 02:05:03,400 Bay. Nothing bad happened. 2378 02:05:03,400 --> 02:05:07,080 I just loaded up on the best Houston, Tampa Bay Get Me Out of 2379 02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:09,360 round one build you possibly could build right. 2380 02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:13,360 Nothing bad happened. Just load up once those teams 2381 02:05:13,360 --> 02:05:16,000 are in. And that's why I I think this is 2382 02:05:16,000 --> 02:05:20,480 like of course all best ball is a volume game but like playoff 2383 02:05:20,480 --> 02:05:23,720 best ball where the edges are so clear and defined and then like 2384 02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:29,120 the way that being contrarian is rewarded differently in this 2385 02:05:29,120 --> 02:05:30,800 than it is in lots of other formats. 2386 02:05:30,800 --> 02:05:34,960 It's like if you just understand how you get paid off for 2387 02:05:35,200 --> 02:05:38,040 different things that are contrarian and understand you do 2388 02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:41,480 the the contrarian things that pay you a lot early when you're 2389 02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:44,480 right, and then you you hold back on the contrarian things 2390 02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:47,320 that don't reward you disproportionately. 2391 02:05:48,240 --> 02:05:50,280 I I think that's that's the secret. 2392 02:05:51,480 --> 02:05:53,720 Well said. Well, I very much appreciated 2393 02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:57,040 getting to hear all of your thoughts on this contest on 2394 02:05:57,040 --> 02:05:59,480 legendary upside. Do you guys want to do one more 2395 02:05:59,480 --> 02:06:01,720 to close this down? Try try another build? 2396 02:06:01,720 --> 02:06:04,040 You guys got time. All right, let's do one more 2397 02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:06,440 here. And oops, no sorry meant in 2398 02:06:06,440 --> 02:06:12,000 four. We'll see if we can get a 2399 02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:14,640 different slot for a little different build here. 2400 02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:24,960 Nope. Do you? 2401 02:06:24,960 --> 02:06:29,120 Have you done when you meant? I assume your answer this 2402 02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:31,040 question is the same thing, like there's enough randomness or 2403 02:06:31,040 --> 02:06:32,840 whatever. Have you done any kind of 2404 02:06:32,840 --> 02:06:36,880 reaching to try to get stacks or pairings that you don't think 2405 02:06:36,880 --> 02:06:40,920 are going to be as frequented? Only when the room presents 2406 02:06:40,920 --> 02:06:43,640 itself in a way where that's like the best way to play it 2407 02:06:43,640 --> 02:06:46,160 too, in that specific room, if that makes sense. 2408 02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:50,520 So like when you see people doing weird stuff like I talked 2409 02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:54,320 about, like, you can kind of tell like, oh, this happens, 2410 02:06:54,600 --> 02:06:57,720 these are logical drafters, They'll take this, this, then 2411 02:06:57,720 --> 02:07:01,840 this, which leaves this open. So if you like I've seen 2412 02:07:01,840 --> 02:07:05,160 sometimes where and there's nothing I can really do to stop 2413 02:07:05,160 --> 02:07:08,720 it other than Nuka team myself where it's like I am about to 2414 02:07:08,720 --> 02:07:13,440 give Brock Purdy to the one hole with CMC and it's like I saw it 2415 02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:16,920 coming saw it coming from a mile away when that guy double tapped 2416 02:07:17,040 --> 02:07:20,920 Aman raw Tyriq you know like I knew we're knew we're screwed 2417 02:07:20,920 --> 02:07:23,800 then as a as a room we're gonna build a monster out of the one 2418 02:07:23,800 --> 02:07:28,080 hole. So yeah, like when you that's 2419 02:07:28,080 --> 02:07:31,040 not an example of where you'd reach, but like when you see 2420 02:07:31,040 --> 02:07:34,320 stuff like that where there's an opportunity to get something 2421 02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:36,680 like that where you're not sacrificing anything, then yeah, 2422 02:07:36,680 --> 02:07:40,080 I'd consider it. Yep, Who knows? 2423 02:07:40,080 --> 02:07:42,720 Maybe one of these guys will grab Debo and we can mix up the 2424 02:07:42,720 --> 02:07:46,080 build. Nez, you want to do us a solid 2425 02:07:46,080 --> 02:07:47,440 and let us build a different team? 2426 02:07:48,760 --> 02:07:50,600 No Nez, is Josh Allen pilled. He's. 2427 02:07:50,600 --> 02:07:53,200 Not, I mean, Nez doesn't want to pick against the Steelers, 2428 02:07:53,200 --> 02:07:54,920 right, You know? That's right. 2429 02:07:54,920 --> 02:08:01,400 Just take Devo nez. Come on this. 2430 02:08:01,960 --> 02:08:04,400 Jeez, Nez is multi tailored. Nez is going to auto. 2431 02:08:04,400 --> 02:08:11,040 Josh Allen, sweetheart. Let's fill the Josh Allen team. 2432 02:08:17,240 --> 02:08:19,440 This is how I get back in Liam's good graces. 2433 02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:25,360 He bought the same lump as him. You dropped the same team. 2434 02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:33,160 Alex is looking for redemption after our was. 2435 02:08:33,160 --> 02:08:35,840 It was that last night, guys, that we did the Big Ben draft, 2436 02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:39,760 where he where Liam cooked him on all of his his Bill stuff. 2437 02:08:40,200 --> 02:08:42,200 Yeah. So do you do you just take digs 2438 02:08:42,200 --> 02:08:43,480 here? Is that what you do or? 2439 02:08:43,480 --> 02:08:46,520 Do you got a You got a choice. You can do digs, or you can fade 2440 02:08:46,520 --> 02:08:49,640 digs and go kittle and play it for that's the only way you're 2441 02:08:49,640 --> 02:08:53,040 playing San Francisco Buffalo is That's why it's a consideration, 2442 02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:55,400 'cause you're otherwise not playing San Francisco Buffalo. 2443 02:08:56,320 --> 02:09:01,360 Let's just get in like a different, different realm fully 2444 02:09:01,400 --> 02:09:07,680 than where we were last time and and do the digs there is like 2445 02:09:07,680 --> 02:09:10,760 I've noticed too. I was actually talking about 2446 02:09:10,760 --> 02:09:14,320 this with Pat like and I'm sure you've noticed this a million 2447 02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:17,760 times where like there's the pro con of like trying to push a 2448 02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:20,800 player like squeeze in the extra guy like Kittle and then who 2449 02:09:20,800 --> 02:09:22,440 knows, maybe the room gives you digs. 2450 02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:26,200 Obviously that's very rare versus when you get like 2451 02:09:26,200 --> 02:09:29,600 squatters rights like because you're now taking off the table 2452 02:09:29,600 --> 02:09:32,560 for someone at the turn like a crutches to do a digs cook 2453 02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:36,680 double tap where it's like less attractive where I think your 2454 02:09:36,680 --> 02:09:40,920 ability to get all three like ratchets up in a in a very big 2455 02:09:40,920 --> 02:09:44,200 way. 100%, yeah. That's really well said. 2456 02:09:44,200 --> 02:09:46,880 And I I definitely think about stuff like that. 2457 02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:50,480 Especially like when I'm when I don't have a quarterback and 2458 02:09:50,480 --> 02:09:52,000 there's quarterbacks still on the board. 2459 02:09:53,280 --> 02:09:56,520 Like I can't remember if this was this streamer if if this is 2460 02:09:56,520 --> 02:09:58,280 the one we were doing over on blackout before. 2461 02:09:58,280 --> 02:10:01,320 But we talked about like trying to push them Mahomes around. 2462 02:10:01,320 --> 02:10:05,000 But there is a a team that had two 49ers pass catchers, whereas 2463 02:10:05,000 --> 02:10:08,840 like they'll they'll always take Mahomes there with whatever 2464 02:10:08,840 --> 02:10:12,720 Chief, we leave them if we don't take Mahomes and then pray for 2465 02:10:12,720 --> 02:10:15,040 the Chiefs to come back, so yeah. 2466 02:10:15,800 --> 02:10:21,680 Krudges does snag cook at the at the 2 three turns, so we'll be 2467 02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:23,960 punting bills here for a little bit. 2468 02:10:25,440 --> 02:10:30,840 What do you guys like here? It's it's kind of gross. 2469 02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:35,160 You're just like picking if you you can't really take KC because 2470 02:10:35,160 --> 02:10:37,120 KC and Buffalo meet each other round too. 2471 02:10:37,120 --> 02:10:41,160 So you're like, I either take Miami or I go down to Detroit. 2472 02:10:41,160 --> 02:10:44,000 Yep. Some guys have AI, don't think 2473 02:10:44,000 --> 02:10:46,720 you start them. What's up? 2474 02:10:47,400 --> 02:10:49,840 You didn't know Gibbs is not. You didn't start anymore. 2475 02:10:50,040 --> 02:10:53,320 No, I know, trust me, I I do not know the last. 2476 02:10:55,800 --> 02:10:59,120 Yeah, I think logically I gravitate there. 2477 02:10:59,120 --> 02:11:01,400 And then the, I guess the question is like how far is 2478 02:11:01,400 --> 02:11:07,320 Tyriq sliding right now? Because Gibbs does feel like I 2479 02:11:07,320 --> 02:11:10,320 always like my, my, my Lion stuff much better. 2480 02:11:10,320 --> 02:11:12,920 Obviously if you have a Monroe or Gibbs to start it off, it's 2481 02:11:12,920 --> 02:11:16,360 just a Monroe's so pricey. So Gibbs is normally like, all 2482 02:11:16,360 --> 02:11:19,000 right, this is my last call to feel like good about Detroit 2483 02:11:19,000 --> 02:11:23,320 stuff. Could you have reached for into 2484 02:11:23,320 --> 02:11:25,360 the Philly stuff and and played for like A.J. 2485 02:11:25,360 --> 02:11:27,680 Brown to be held up? I don't think you reach it. 2486 02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:29,960 I think you wait. You try to let the Philly stuff 2487 02:11:29,960 --> 02:11:32,560 keep falling, because it will. You can get A.J. 2488 02:11:32,560 --> 02:11:34,760 Brown in like the sixth round sometimes. 2489 02:11:35,760 --> 02:11:38,440 What about Tyreke here? I was going to say, do you want 2490 02:11:38,440 --> 02:11:40,840 to just do? Tyreke Yeah, you can you can do 2491 02:11:40,840 --> 02:11:43,640 Tyreke here. Yeah. 2492 02:11:43,640 --> 02:11:47,000 Tyreke here is is totally fine the other way that you would 2493 02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:48,640 have played it. But yeah do do Tyreke. 2494 02:11:48,640 --> 02:11:53,480 The other way that you play it, which I'll usually do, is if if 2495 02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:56,000 Kyron's still on the board, you just take Kyron where he took 2496 02:11:56,000 --> 02:11:59,520 Gibbs, and then you have two receivers open and a lot of 2497 02:11:59,520 --> 02:12:01,320 times people won't even infringe on them. 2498 02:12:01,360 --> 02:12:03,360 It's like really nice advance rate pieces. 2499 02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:07,400 And you know, you're already not playing San Francisco to make 2500 02:12:07,400 --> 02:12:09,520 the Super Bowl. So it's like, why did San 2501 02:12:09,520 --> 02:12:10,920 Francisco not make the Super Bowl? 2502 02:12:10,920 --> 02:12:14,160 Oh, 'cause the Ram's upset. That's kind of the, yeah, just 2503 02:12:14,160 --> 02:12:16,520 like we talked about, thinking through the brackets, you know? 2504 02:12:16,680 --> 02:12:19,360 And in the other formats, it's like, well, why isn't San 2505 02:12:19,360 --> 02:12:21,680 Francisco in the Super Bowl? And it's like, well, the coolest 2506 02:12:21,680 --> 02:12:25,480 way is because the Rams go and then I'm rolling with these 2507 02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:29,200 fantasy powerhouse pieces and that's why I'm winning all the 2508 02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:32,680 money because no one can stop my full bills and RAM stack. 2509 02:12:32,680 --> 02:12:35,240 Like, that's just overwhelming. Yeah. 2510 02:12:36,320 --> 02:12:39,600 And Duke also pointing out that we do finally have a build where 2511 02:12:40,360 --> 02:12:42,920 a sacrilegious would say the Packers could be on the menu 2512 02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:46,720 here. The other thing. 2513 02:12:46,720 --> 02:12:50,480 We talked about narratives earlier, and maybe that was on 2514 02:12:50,480 --> 02:12:53,320 the other stream, but what a better story than McVeigh 2515 02:12:54,040 --> 02:12:56,480 beating Shanahan, yeah? Wow. 2516 02:12:57,640 --> 02:13:00,520 Well, and it's very, that's why I think it's very doable because 2517 02:13:00,520 --> 02:13:01,880 they know each other very, very well. 2518 02:13:01,880 --> 02:13:04,080 I mean, I think that guy's got to be closer than it should be, 2519 02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:07,480 regardless. So Nez does give one back here. 2520 02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:09,560 He doesn't let us do the A.J. Brown thing. 2521 02:13:10,160 --> 02:13:13,920 Do we just grab a Chan and be done? 2522 02:13:15,240 --> 02:13:18,000 Yeah, 'cause you really only want one more Miami piece, and 2523 02:13:18,000 --> 02:13:20,440 you definitely don't want Waddle, in my opinion here, 2524 02:13:20,440 --> 02:13:22,560 'cause it's like, what's he really doing for us? 2525 02:13:23,000 --> 02:13:27,200 So yeah, you can take a Chan. And then from this point, we're 2526 02:13:27,200 --> 02:13:30,680 like, we don't really feel great about pushing Kincaid around 2527 02:13:30,720 --> 02:13:34,760 anymore. And so I think that we just fall 2528 02:13:34,760 --> 02:13:39,400 in the Kincaid grenade here. Your other option from this spot 2529 02:13:39,400 --> 02:13:43,200 is if you're worried about losing Mike Evans, you go into 2530 02:13:43,920 --> 02:13:47,400 Evans already, because if you don't have Eagles, right, we 2531 02:13:47,400 --> 02:13:49,600 didn't take Eagles at a big falling value. 2532 02:13:49,600 --> 02:13:53,680 It's because they lost to Mike Evans 202 game. 2533 02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:58,480 Yep. Does this Does this build become 2534 02:13:58,480 --> 02:14:01,800 preloaded with Leonard Fournette for you at this spot? 2535 02:14:02,080 --> 02:14:05,280 Yeah, yeah, when you when you don't have a a Bills running 2536 02:14:05,280 --> 02:14:07,560 back. I love tacking on Lenny. 2537 02:14:07,560 --> 02:14:10,920 I'll do a lot of Bills 2 running back builds with two running 2538 02:14:10,920 --> 02:14:13,480 backs on the Bills where I end up with Cook and Lenny. 2539 02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:18,680 And then, like, if I had more Bills teams, I'd sprinkle in a 2540 02:14:18,680 --> 02:14:23,240 tiny bit of Ty Johnson and then like even less Latavius Murray, 2541 02:14:23,240 --> 02:14:28,040 'cause it's so ambiguous there. But yeah, I definitely I like 2542 02:14:28,040 --> 02:14:32,320 Lenny a lot. I also I you know, would any of 2543 02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:35,920 us be surprised if this first week say that the game's still 2544 02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:38,880 in Buffalo with the 30 mile an hour sustained winds? 2545 02:14:39,200 --> 02:14:43,600 You know, it's cold as shit? Like, are you surprised if they 2546 02:14:43,960 --> 02:14:48,600 just ride Lenny's fresh, thick legs all the way to a victory 2547 02:14:48,600 --> 02:14:50,920 there? Like it doesn't seem that crazy. 2548 02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:53,880 God, I just I'm I'm having a. Hard. 2549 02:14:54,120 --> 02:14:56,000 Time with. The words fresh. 2550 02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:57,480 And. Lenny. 2551 02:14:58,120 --> 02:14:59,680 Let me get sacked back for earlier. 2552 02:15:00,280 --> 02:15:06,960 Yuck. Evans did get sniped there. 2553 02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:11,160 This is the. By Super Bowl week, it could be 2554 02:15:11,160 --> 02:15:13,880 someone like Ty Johnson over money, too. 2555 02:15:13,880 --> 02:15:14,880 Guys, yeah. It could be. 2556 02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:18,080 I'm gonna get I'm gonna get you on the the Jaden Reed Aaron 2557 02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:20,280 Jones I. Mean I mean you're you're we're 2558 02:15:20,280 --> 02:15:25,080 dangerously close to it here. What I'll what I'll say from 2559 02:15:25,160 --> 02:15:28,480 this spot is you could also go into Dallas Goddard and just 2560 02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:30,880 play it as one. What about Devante? 2561 02:15:31,000 --> 02:15:34,200 We have Devante. I'm so my vibes on Devante are 2562 02:15:34,200 --> 02:15:35,680 so poor. But it might. 2563 02:15:35,680 --> 02:15:36,520 I might be. It should be. 2564 02:15:36,960 --> 02:15:39,520 The opposite the the vibes on Devante are good right now. 2565 02:15:39,640 --> 02:15:43,160 AJ is the sketch one. I'm just high ankle sprain, like 2566 02:15:43,160 --> 02:15:45,800 2 weeks removed. Seems so spooky to me. 2567 02:15:46,200 --> 02:15:50,960 But he's yeah, do what? Let's let's do the devante 2568 02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:53,360 gotter. Yeah, and that that feet feels 2569 02:15:53,400 --> 02:15:55,040 totally fine. We're gonna get our third 2570 02:15:55,040 --> 02:15:58,680 running back through Fournette anyway, and then we'll just 2571 02:15:58,680 --> 02:16:02,880 hammer Shakur. Fournette the the one. 2572 02:16:03,040 --> 02:16:06,880 Honestly, the piece that I like want to lose the least in Bill's 2573 02:16:06,880 --> 02:16:10,240 drafts is Khalil Shakur. I think by the end of the 2574 02:16:10,240 --> 02:16:12,880 playoffs, there's a non zero chance he's the best pass 2575 02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:15,520 catcher on the team. Like, I know that might be a 2576 02:16:15,520 --> 02:16:19,440 little hot, but I thought he was good coming into this season. 2577 02:16:19,480 --> 02:16:21,160 Then they didn't use him because they were like, you know, it 2578 02:16:21,160 --> 02:16:23,920 would be really cool. What if you put a slower guy who 2579 02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:26,880 runs worse routes with worse hands out here? 2580 02:16:27,080 --> 02:16:29,200 That'd be sick. Let's put a lot of Dalton 2581 02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:32,040 Kincaid on the field and now they're like, wait a minute, 2582 02:16:32,400 --> 02:16:34,240 this Khalil Shakur guy could play. 2583 02:16:34,240 --> 02:16:38,360 So I don't know. I'm I'm kind of in on the Khalil 2584 02:16:38,360 --> 02:16:42,400 Shakur rising if the bills you know make a deep run like you 2585 02:16:42,400 --> 02:16:45,760 got more room for Khalil Shakur to to have a big breakout game 2586 02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:49,360 and then maybe you know make it so the genie can't go back in 2587 02:16:49,360 --> 02:16:52,760 the bottle. Yeah, the Gabe injury stuff is 2588 02:16:52,760 --> 02:16:55,680 bad too, right? Yeah, it's PCL. 2589 02:16:56,200 --> 02:17:00,719 Like I I you know they say that he he could be back at some time 2590 02:17:00,719 --> 02:17:04,200 during the playoffs but like dude PCL springs like you can 2591 02:17:04,200 --> 02:17:07,520 miss some some time. Like that. 2592 02:17:07,520 --> 02:17:10,600 That does push you towards Shakur as well. 2593 02:17:10,600 --> 02:17:15,440 A lot for sure, yeah. Nez is cursing us for taking. 2594 02:17:15,600 --> 02:17:17,400 He went swift there. He had taken A.J. 2595 02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:20,680 Brown and Swift and then we went Eagles, Eagles, Sorry, this. 2596 02:17:20,680 --> 02:17:24,080 Oh no nez, this is how I repaid you after. 2597 02:17:24,400 --> 02:17:31,160 She did us the deal. Oh nez, I'm sorry. 2598 02:17:32,080 --> 02:17:34,080 We didn't let him stop piddle in return, though. 2599 02:17:35,840 --> 02:17:37,000 A.J. Brown hurts Swift. 2600 02:17:37,000 --> 02:17:38,400 And then we took Devonte. Got it. 2601 02:17:38,639 --> 02:17:39,559 Wow. That was brutal. 2602 02:17:40,240 --> 02:17:46,160 This is This is Zach Religious is hyping up Khalil Shakur so 2603 02:17:46,160 --> 02:17:49,520 much that crutches can't even tack on to his James Cook build 2604 02:17:49,520 --> 02:17:51,719 because Alex takes him as a one off. 2605 02:17:52,400 --> 02:17:53,000 The. One off. 2606 02:17:53,440 --> 02:17:56,639 Does it even make sense here? It's no he. 2607 02:17:56,719 --> 02:18:00,120 Just hyped him up as the fucking next coming of Jerry Rice and 2608 02:18:00,160 --> 02:18:04,320 that was like, sounds good. How does How Yeah, I guess. 2609 02:18:04,559 --> 02:18:07,280 It was just a bit it's Trent Cherfield season anyway. 2610 02:18:07,600 --> 02:18:11,040 Yeah, it makes sense. If the if the Chiefs win, Alex 2611 02:18:11,040 --> 02:18:14,959 is fine. Wanted Buffalo. 2612 02:18:14,959 --> 02:18:19,480 I wanted Buffalo. Why the? 2613 02:18:19,520 --> 02:18:20,760 Fuck. Fuck us, right? 2614 02:18:21,480 --> 02:18:25,719 So, so, Lenny's one pick here. What's the What's the other one? 2615 02:18:25,920 --> 02:18:28,160 Oh, your next one's Dawson Knox. Easy peasy. 2616 02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:33,000 Just jam it in. The Would you consider a a 2617 02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:36,600 Detroit guy for a second? Detroit. 2618 02:18:37,320 --> 02:18:41,400 Yeah, I'd, I'd dabble with a I'd probably prefer Jamison 2619 02:18:41,400 --> 02:18:44,240 Williams, kind of in the same vein as Khalil Shakur. 2620 02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:48,760 Like I I said this earlier this season that I think it wouldn't 2621 02:18:48,760 --> 02:18:51,240 be that outlandish to say Jamison Williams is the best 2622 02:18:51,240 --> 02:18:53,799 receiver on his team next season. 2623 02:18:54,040 --> 02:18:55,559 Not to take anything away from Alman Raw. 2624 02:18:55,559 --> 02:19:00,480 I think Alman Raw is absolute elite Chad dominating slot or? 2625 02:19:00,480 --> 02:19:02,760 City with this race, it's gonna be like, man, wonderful. 2626 02:19:05,160 --> 02:19:08,879 Laporta's already practicing, and isn't it Like Detroit has a 2627 02:19:08,879 --> 02:19:11,760 possible Super Bowl team like Laporta? 2628 02:19:11,920 --> 02:19:15,200 Yeah, you you could do Laporta to I've, yeah. 2629 02:19:16,200 --> 02:19:19,360 They're both Laporta's. It's got a. 2630 02:19:19,480 --> 02:19:21,959 Bone bruise. Dude, the bone bruise is so I 2631 02:19:21,959 --> 02:19:25,360 don't know if if any of you have ever had a a severe bone bruise. 2632 02:19:25,360 --> 02:19:29,000 He's not walk like if he does play on Sunday, he's not walking 2633 02:19:29,000 --> 02:19:30,920 the entire next. Week, but there's not a single 2634 02:19:30,920 --> 02:19:32,680 by team on this. Like you don't, really. 2635 02:19:32,680 --> 02:19:33,719 No. Yeah, we don't. 2636 02:19:33,799 --> 02:19:36,400 It's you're right. It's not round one firepower we 2637 02:19:36,400 --> 02:19:37,120 need. I just. 2638 02:19:37,680 --> 02:19:40,160 I like JMO. I'm I'm high on JMO. 2639 02:19:41,559 --> 02:19:43,840 He just said he's gonna be the best wide receiver on the Lions 2640 02:19:43,840 --> 02:19:49,400 next year, high on JMO. Yeah, I mean this Now this is 2641 02:19:49,400 --> 02:19:53,360 like the opposite of. That religious player takes are 2642 02:19:54,520 --> 02:19:58,560 are the the all the the game theory stuff is the smartest 2643 02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:00,480 stuff I've ever heard and then we start talking about Khalil 2644 02:20:00,840 --> 02:20:02,480 here and he's comparing him to like the. 2645 02:20:03,560 --> 02:20:05,240 That's why I'm a flat exposure bro. 2646 02:20:05,240 --> 02:20:09,080 In season long, that's all. I can't trust myself. 2647 02:20:10,280 --> 02:20:16,080 The, yeah, I, I think the the Laporta stuff is, I don't know, 2648 02:20:16,080 --> 02:20:18,960 pretty optimistic on the lion's end right now. 2649 02:20:20,160 --> 02:20:22,640 Yeah, I was just thinking more like conference championship and 2650 02:20:23,080 --> 02:20:25,520 and Super Bowl, yeah. Right. 2651 02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:27,240 Yeah. And I think if we would have 2652 02:20:27,440 --> 02:20:29,680 'cause we did, what did we 'cause? 2653 02:20:29,680 --> 02:20:33,440 We were playing the Ravens, was it Cowboys Super Bowl on our big 2654 02:20:33,440 --> 02:20:36,840 one last night? And we did Mark Andrews there as 2655 02:20:36,840 --> 02:20:41,480 our final Super Bowl piece, which in this lineup we weren't 2656 02:20:41,480 --> 02:20:46,560 necessarily playing. Detroit to the Super Bowl. 2657 02:20:46,560 --> 02:20:49,640 We were playing. I guess we we were leaving it 2658 02:20:49,640 --> 02:20:50,320 open. We were playing. 2659 02:20:50,320 --> 02:20:52,000 Eagles. Either Philly or Detroit. 2660 02:20:52,040 --> 02:20:55,360 Yeah, yeah. Well, that was fun. 2661 02:20:56,920 --> 02:20:59,040 I like, I told myself I was going to, like, flip the 2662 02:20:59,040 --> 02:21:01,880 calendar over and exclusively be doing BRS by today. 2663 02:21:01,880 --> 02:21:04,080 And then I keep looking at that little gauntlet and I'm like, 2664 02:21:04,080 --> 02:21:05,520 yeah, just another. Just one more. 2665 02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:07,440 And next thing you know, it's 10 more. 2666 02:21:07,920 --> 02:21:09,280 You just keep going. Just RIP. 2667 02:21:09,400 --> 02:21:13,080 It on real quick. Yeah, we're we're gonna take it 2668 02:21:13,080 --> 02:21:17,680 easy on on Alex here. Did did he grab an extra? 2669 02:21:17,800 --> 02:21:19,840 I say I'm gonna take it easy and then I'm gonna look, did he end 2670 02:21:19,840 --> 02:21:20,200 up? Grabbing. 2671 02:21:20,200 --> 02:21:22,720 Well, there's a whole thing in the chat of of the they said he 2672 02:21:22,720 --> 02:21:25,160 had Cooper and he said I don't have Cooper And then I said, oh 2673 02:21:25,160 --> 02:21:26,880 wait, I do. So I think. 2674 02:21:27,280 --> 02:21:32,560 Oh, no, it's OK. It's OK. 2675 02:21:32,560 --> 02:21:34,200 I. I think he's still, by the way, 2676 02:21:34,200 --> 02:21:37,000 I do think in Alex's defense, he's fine. 2677 02:21:37,000 --> 02:21:39,880 He's just, he needs a chief stub for it to work, you know? 2678 02:21:40,160 --> 02:21:41,720 Yeah. I don't. 2679 02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:44,440 I don't think he had three AFC. He only had two AFC, so. 2680 02:21:44,440 --> 02:21:45,920 He and he ended up going Sherfield. 2681 02:21:45,920 --> 02:21:47,880 He committed to the bit. OK, he committed. 2682 02:21:47,880 --> 02:21:49,960 To the bit, yeah. Gabe's out. 2683 02:21:51,120 --> 02:21:53,120 Makes sense. Alex, you're live. 2684 02:21:53,240 --> 02:21:56,440 You got the best wide receiver on the Bills and the second best 2685 02:21:56,440 --> 02:22:02,680 wide receiver. All right guys. 2686 02:22:02,680 --> 02:22:06,280 So we we we covered a lot of ground tonight. 2687 02:22:06,600 --> 02:22:10,800 NFCFFPC underdog. We got our final show tomorrow 2688 02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:16,000 night with Dink and Leone 8:15. I will, I haven't been drinking 2689 02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:17,520 all week. I'm ready to have a couple 2690 02:22:17,520 --> 02:22:19,600 cocktails tomorrow to cap off the week. 2691 02:22:21,080 --> 02:22:24,120 Anything else here, Pat, you mentioned you guys got the 2692 02:22:24,120 --> 02:22:27,720 DraftKings tool is launched. Anything. 2693 02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:30,680 Else you know about Yeah, no, that's the big thing. 2694 02:22:31,040 --> 02:22:34,000 Ownership projections you can find on legendary upside. 2695 02:22:34,480 --> 02:22:39,160 Now you can also they're in the ship chasing Discord, legendary 2696 02:22:39,160 --> 02:22:41,600 upside Discord, but they're also just on the legendary upside 2697 02:22:41,600 --> 02:22:45,680 site for for members there. But yeah, this DraftKings tool 2698 02:22:45,680 --> 02:22:49,400 is pretty sweet I think just getting your head around tight 2699 02:22:49,400 --> 02:22:53,360 ends and the importance of filling out like in in some of 2700 02:22:53,360 --> 02:22:56,440 the underdog stuff. I think you can only have like 4 2701 02:22:56,440 --> 02:22:59,320 live players in round one and like have a shot, but you're 2702 02:22:59,320 --> 02:23:03,240 probably pretty dead in on Underdog or on DraftKings where 2703 02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:06,560 it's one of six advance. So you also have two extra 2704 02:23:06,560 --> 02:23:09,880 rounds over there, so you have a little bit more latitude to play 2705 02:23:09,880 --> 02:23:13,560 with in a sense. So I've had a lot of fun 2706 02:23:13,560 --> 02:23:15,400 drafting with the tool over there. 2707 02:23:15,400 --> 02:23:16,840 I definitely recommend people check it out. 2708 02:23:18,080 --> 02:23:23,080 Awesome, Draco. Anything people should be 2709 02:23:23,080 --> 02:23:28,520 looking out for Stat chasing, obviously in the books for the 2710 02:23:28,520 --> 02:23:29,640 year. Anything else you want to point 2711 02:23:29,640 --> 02:23:32,840 people toward? Nothing right now. 2712 02:23:32,840 --> 02:23:36,840 I know SAC and I, we did talk about maybe doing a couple of 2713 02:23:37,160 --> 02:23:42,360 offseason shows, but I guess more to come on that. 2714 02:23:43,240 --> 02:23:45,360 Awesome. Sacrilegious. 2715 02:23:45,480 --> 02:23:49,600 Anything you'd like to do here? Are you are you going to do any 2716 02:23:49,600 --> 02:23:53,360 more content for leg up? Any Discord stream, stuff like 2717 02:23:53,360 --> 02:23:56,440 that? I don't know if I'll have time 2718 02:23:56,440 --> 02:24:00,320 to fit in we we might have time to fit an impromptu Discord 2719 02:24:00,320 --> 02:24:02,760 stream in. I got a pretty busy week here 2720 02:24:02,760 --> 02:24:06,960 between other obligations and the volume I'm trying to get in. 2721 02:24:06,960 --> 02:24:08,880 But I'll. I'll see if I can get some of 2722 02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:10,800 that down on stream in the Discord. 2723 02:24:11,960 --> 02:24:15,680 And then I'm I'm so close to getting into offseason mode 2724 02:24:15,680 --> 02:24:19,280 where I get to start doing some of the deeper dive projects. 2725 02:24:19,280 --> 02:24:22,760 So I'm going to have to talk to Pat behind the scenes about 2726 02:24:23,240 --> 02:24:27,200 we've got a few ideas of of articles and and bigger actually 2727 02:24:27,200 --> 02:24:28,720 had. An idea I wanted to to get your 2728 02:24:28,720 --> 02:24:30,360 thoughts on. Cool. 2729 02:24:30,360 --> 02:24:31,960 We'll yeah, we'll we'll chop it up. 2730 02:24:31,960 --> 02:24:36,400 So I I'm, I'm thinking I I wanna get like 1-1 real big piece out 2731 02:24:36,480 --> 02:24:38,640 for the summer and then I'll, I'll sprinkle in some other 2732 02:24:38,640 --> 02:24:42,160 stuff too. Nice gretch. 2733 02:24:42,160 --> 02:24:46,280 I I got your pod downloaded with Sean to check out sometime 2734 02:24:46,280 --> 02:24:48,760 tomorrow. What else is up in your neck of 2735 02:24:48,760 --> 02:24:51,000 the woods? Well, I didn't have much 2736 02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:53,360 yesterday. I recorded that pod. 2737 02:24:53,920 --> 02:24:57,360 I went to Costco with my with my wife and daughters today. 2738 02:24:57,360 --> 02:25:01,360 It's been 24 hours since you asked me yesterday what I had up 2739 02:25:01,480 --> 02:25:03,160 and it was what's a lot going on? 2740 02:25:03,160 --> 02:25:07,680 Thursdays They did, They did. My 8 year old was crushing it, 2741 02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:09,240 man. She was making a killing 2742 02:25:09,240 --> 02:25:11,680 tonight. Did you see that guy who just 2743 02:25:11,680 --> 02:25:15,800 did the bit where he ate exclusively Costco hot dogs for 2744 02:25:15,800 --> 02:25:17,920 an entire week as his only sustenance? 2745 02:25:17,920 --> 02:25:20,880 It was some viral video. I did not see that. 2746 02:25:21,280 --> 02:25:26,160 Yeah, seemed like a great time. Can we just before we get out of 2747 02:25:26,160 --> 02:25:31,480 here, The chat is just easy coming on Alex and then Alex 2748 02:25:31,480 --> 02:25:33,960 says easy, I'm using your ranks and. 2749 02:25:35,640 --> 02:25:40,120 Then. That's fantastic. 2750 02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:43,760 Poor, poor Alex. The the trajectory of Alex's 2751 02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:48,000 streams last night, he was just setting up the Bills thing, and 2752 02:25:48,000 --> 02:25:51,920 Liam just comes in kool-aid bad, and he just takes all the bills. 2753 02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:55,360 And then tonight, he's like, I'm finally going to get my bills. 2754 02:25:55,920 --> 02:25:57,840 Bill. Shakur and Trent Sherfield. 2755 02:25:59,760 --> 02:26:01,440 We love you Alex. Thank you for hopping in the 2756 02:26:01,440 --> 02:26:03,320 drafts. The other programming note in 2757 02:26:03,320 --> 02:26:06,520 addition to the show tomorrow. So next weekend we're not gonna 2758 02:26:06,520 --> 02:26:10,640 have a typical Thursday show. I'm gonna be traveling, but we 2759 02:26:10,640 --> 02:26:14,760 are gonna do a Monday night playoff ship cast. 2760 02:26:15,720 --> 02:26:17,280 We we'll probably try to book a guest. 2761 02:26:17,280 --> 02:26:20,200 We gotta talk about that. But yeah, we will be live at 2762 02:26:20,200 --> 02:26:24,400 8:00 PM for Bucks Eagles and yeah we'll fire up some pickums. 2763 02:26:25,240 --> 02:26:28,360 I'll I'll do a giveaway to the store too for ship chasing 2764 02:26:28,360 --> 02:26:29,600 merch. I don't think we got the UD 2765 02:26:29,680 --> 02:26:31,800 credits anymore but we'll do a giveaway. 2766 02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:35,120 Just classic ship cast stuff. Just on a Monday night, the 2767 02:26:35,120 --> 02:26:38,000 Monday Night Football hammer. So looking forward to that as 2768 02:26:38,000 --> 02:26:39,400 well. Totally blast. 2769 02:26:39,440 --> 02:26:41,200 We can. We can recap the opening 2770 02:26:41,200 --> 02:26:43,880 weekend, everything that happens Saturday, so much happens in the 2771 02:26:43,880 --> 02:26:46,840 FFPC tournament and everything that we'll be able to talk 2772 02:26:46,840 --> 02:26:48,240 through a lot of that on Monday night. 2773 02:26:48,880 --> 02:26:51,240 Yeah, yeah, there will be a lot to discuss. 2774 02:26:51,240 --> 02:26:54,040 We can pull up some of our big mitten teams we draft and see 2775 02:26:54,040 --> 02:26:57,720 what's live to advance. It'll be a very fun night to 2776 02:26:57,720 --> 02:27:00,440 sweat all of that good stuff. Thank you guys all for hanging 2777 02:27:00,440 --> 02:27:02,080 out in the chat. Get some sleep. 2778 02:27:02,080 --> 02:27:05,600 Rest up for the big finale tomorrow with Leonie and Dink. 2779 02:27:05,600 --> 02:27:09,800 Thanks again to Sacrilegious and Draco coming on, dropping bombs, 2780 02:27:09,800 --> 02:27:12,520 spitting fire, helping us crack these contests. 2781 02:27:12,520 --> 02:27:14,760 And yeah, we'll keep the conversation going in the 2782 02:27:14,760 --> 02:27:16,120 Discord. If you guys want to become 2783 02:27:16,120 --> 02:27:17,880 YouTube members, you can unlock that. 2784 02:27:18,160 --> 02:27:21,040 Otherwise we'll see you guys tomorrow night. 815 Peace.