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Oh, hi. 
Welcome to windy and very sad 

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Buffalo. 
I'm Mike Shope for ADP chasing 

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here the morning after the 
championship games. 

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Buffalo in a state of mourning, 
if not also one of shock. 

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That's another great season. 
And short of even a Super Bowl 

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appearance, there's a term here 
for the period right after the 

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Bill season and it's called 
hockey season, which if you 

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don't follow the NHL is actually
more depressing still for people

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in Western New York. 
We'll, of course talk through 

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yesterday's games. 
Look ahead to the Super Bowl and

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the big board open for 2025. 
So why have there? 

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Why let there be ADP without our
chasing it? 

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That's from Pat. 
Our heroes Pat Crane and Davis 

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Maddock. 
Join me Mike Show for ADP 

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chasing January 27th, 2025. 
ADP chasing is for when you 

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watch ship chasing you go these 
guys are just football guys and 

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the targets for outrun leagues. 
That's going to be really nice 

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actually, back in if it's 
Austinette. 

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Compared to our crystal ball. 
Close your eyes, you know all 

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your entries are going to lose 
anyway. 

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Yeah, that's fair. 
This is a douche von show. 

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It's. 
Anti cabal. 

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It's anti the best ball thought 
leader. 

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I'm obviously lying to some 
degree because like, I have a 

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lot of both of these guys. 
It's the most disgusting. 

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Thing you can make but. 
Man. 

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Pat, you don't follow hockey, 
right? 

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No, no, I don't so. 
Will this seem intuitive? 

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The Sabres have missed the 
playoffs 14 years in a row, 

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which really should be 
mathematically impossible in 

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hockey. 
Especially because they've had 

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the number one pick a bunch of 
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They've picked yeah top. 
Why is that more mathematically 

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impossible than in other sports?
Because of the variance that the

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goaltender provides. 
For one thing, like in 

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basketball, the better team is 
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playoff series? 
Like like LeBron Lebron's 

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equivalent in hockey could maybe
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know, I don't know, 5% extra 
wins or something like it really

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is. 
It really is like for in terms 

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of variance, not not sure you're
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variance spot. 
Yeah, it's easily the all time 

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record and they're headed for 
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something to make it this year. 
So they're headed for another 

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one and just, you know, hockey 
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It's a it's a pop very popular 
sport in Buffalo. 

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But man, these days with the 
Sabres. 

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Enough about them. 
Did you like my my prop by the 

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way, Davis? 
I do. 

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I do. 
Like, I like. 

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I just this is a technique 
clearly of you take pain of the 

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Bills, deep, deep pain the next 
day after the wound, and you 

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pretend the real pain is about 
some hockey team. 

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Yeah, we understand. 
No, that that's good. 

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That's true, right? 
Pretend it doesn't matter as 

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much as it really does. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

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What I really care about is the 
Sabres playoff streak. 

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That sounds like me. 
I immediately do that for 

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anything in life. 
Like, oh, well, I didn't really 

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want it that bad, which I don't 
think is great, but that is how 

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I do it mostly. 
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Well, I what? 
What I'm personally just to get 

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into that game, not excited 
about is another eight months of

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trying to figure out what they 
need to be to be different or to

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to win next time. 
Because it really shouldn't be 

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inevitable that Kansas City wins
every year. 

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I mean, they had a for them, a 
trying season, but for me it's 

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that they did not have and we 
knew this and we talked about it

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a lot. 
They did not have the go to guy 

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down the field in that offense. 
Anything you know they. 

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They traded they traded the go 
to guy because of this is what I

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mean. 
You can tell me this is this is 

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what Liam told me at the time 
was that Worthy doesn't make any

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sense for the Bills because it's
cold and he doesn't win jump 

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balls. 
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play in the cold in the playoffs
who can win jump balls? 

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I mean, honestly, they could 
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traded down a little and taken 
Lad Mcconkey. 

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That's. 
Gotta say, how about Lad 

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Mcconkey? 
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Not worthy. 
He's he's a star. 

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Both teams? 
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Both teams passed on LAD. 
Mcconkey So there's a star 

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sitting right there, you know, 
but you know, of course the 

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Patriots traded off that pick a 
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grabbing LAD, but Jalen Polk got
to trade off LAD so you can get.

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Jalen Polk, Eddie Mitchell. 
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find a more Patriots wide 
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Like it's 2025, we're not doing 
woke anymore. 

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Vlad Mcconkey was born to be a 
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It was just just huge 
organizational incompetence to 

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have not gotten. 
That yeah. 

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Well, process, process. 
Wise I just I thought they were 

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fine in what they did and you 
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Mitchell. 
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readable, you know, you know, I,
I think it's sometimes books 

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can, can change lives. 
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trading Stefan Diggs to the 
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her excellence, you know, is 
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But it changed the whole history
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People have been making this 
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it's a little bit misguided, 
like all they just keep missing 

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on all these first round picks. 
Well, you know who who missed on

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a first round pick? 
How about Brett Veach picking 

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clatter? 
It's Hilaire in the first round 

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ahead of Jonathan Taylor, for 
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I I think it's not. 
In fairness, In fairness to 

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Bill's fans, though, Cloud ever 
see Lehrer did not let a 

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critical ball bounce off his 
bicep to lose this game. 

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Diddy, Diddy Davis. 
Well, the Rube, the Rube 

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Goldberg machine, they fired it 
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And I was sitting there going 
and I immediately started 

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thinking of you and how how, how
you must be cackling at Dalton 

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Kincaid. 
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big board draft about two hours 
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just immediate, like I have to 
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knowing that I have a fantasy 
football team sitting there with

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Dalton Kincaid on it. 
I mean, it was. 

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Rough. 
Well, we had a long, we had a 

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long time. 
I had to talk about this like 

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they'll they'll want every picks
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that work going into year three,
what I think is a little bit 

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tricky or maybe scary about the 
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they're going to draft, what, 
30th? 

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So the last two years their top 
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those two guys went three for 20
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And Keon, this is going to be 
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on that final drive. 
His last catch, he tried to cut 

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up field like Mark Andrews. 
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thought, oh, I can stay in 
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obviously would have been a 
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And then once he realized he 
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defenders. 
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out of bounds. 
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catastrophic keep the clock 
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time to keep the clock going. 
Error Mike because they didn't 

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give him enough responsibility 
this year. 

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Xavier Worthy started week 1. 
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with Marquez Valdez scaling to 
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I think a good lesson to learn 
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team, your first round pick is 
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Your first round pick comes in 
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You can't treat these guys like 
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And those wide receivers, to 
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play or not, at least so we 
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And it's kind of the Bills way 
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they did and they thought they 
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Coleman wasn't ready to 
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Then they trade for Cooper and 
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whole time. 
Cooper Yeah. 

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He just was done, which I was 
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I thought that was a very astute
trade, but he he just had no 

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juice. 
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thought it it what's scary to me
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them to have this you know, go 
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are they really going to after 
that game and another Patrick 

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Mahomes dissection of their 
defense go wide receiver or 

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tight end with their first pick 
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Mean not if McDermott has 
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When they lost, when they lost 
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Championship, they drafted edge 
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would be the difference. 
They still couldn't get Mahomes 

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to the ground. 
And so I I don't know at this 

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point, it's too, it's too 
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Like what the move is? 
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Also, it's not a good wide 
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in the the back end of the first
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Like it's a really good one if 
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round who can play though, so 
maybe that works. 

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Out sure, I guess I don't even 
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from that perspective. 
There's guys but like I'm who 

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are who's I guess we're about to
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Nick Nash, you are Buffalo Bill.
That's not going to move the 

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needle. 
I I just, I mean there's there's

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dudes like I think Matthew 
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and he'd be kind of interesting,
but it's not like any profile. 

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It's not a super deep wide 
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I mean, and there's also not 
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was was what the Eagles did you 
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pick who becomes trail and Burks
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Brown, right, Because it didn't 
have to become Burks, but it's. 

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Very wise, Pat. 
It's. 

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Very. 
Yeah, go. 

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But is there a guy like that? 
I was just trying to run through

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my head like you probably can't 
get like CD Lamb, but that's 

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like the type of. 
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Schottenheimer, 32 year old Dak 
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I don't know. 
I think that's the type of thing

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I'd be trying to do. 
Like just you need like a star 

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or like if there's any. 
Way you can get Ian Coleman is 

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his cousin. 
Kian Coleman is CD Lamb's 

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cousin. 
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would have been Garrett Wilson. 
Garrett Wilson. 

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That's a perfect one. 
There you go. 

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Garrett Wilson's a perfect one. 
His enemies His enemies are both

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holding knives and not speaking 
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Garrett Wilson. 
These have knives and are just 

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like saying he stinks. 
But is Woody Johnson going to 

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allow a trade to the division 
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No. 
We, no, we covered this last 

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week. 
Woody Johnson does not have any 

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clue what's going on with his 
football team, right? 

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Now, no, he does. 
He has too much of A clue. 

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His sons are named Brick and 
Jack, and they run the 

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organization. 
Didn't he? 

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He literally is a Trump cabinet 
ambassador. 

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He is in. 
No, he wasn't. 

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He he wasn't reappointed. 
He got snubbed. 

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Yeah. 
OK, this changes everything. 

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It's it's not early, he. 
Thought he was going to give it 

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back and he's, he's, he's pissed
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He's a pissed off medal Simoner.
It's the worst possible 

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situation. 
Are they going to do? 

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Sons who read Jets blogs and 
then tell their scouts who to 

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draft it's and then they 
literally say can't trade for 

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Jerry Judy because matter of 
raining isn't high enough. 

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I I promise you to you will 
enjoy the athletic article on 

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this. 
It is good. 

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I, I mean, I, I, I remembered 
it, but I basically discounted 

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it because I thought Woody 
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cabinet again. 
He thought so, too. 

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Yeah, OK. 
Yeah. 

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I think we'll be talking about 
whether they should pay James 

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Cook a lot because of all the 
teams that spent up on running 

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backs. 
And here's Cook who went for 19 

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amazing play for his touchdown 
yesterday on the 4th down run. 

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I've already heard a couple 
places. 

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I did a Toronto show this 
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They're like, why didn't Cook 
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And so he's hurt. 
He was hurt, so he. 

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Came off, he came off and got 
checked. 

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Like he had his hand. 
Was it hand or wrist? 

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Maybe? 
Yes, I remember that now. 

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There was something. 
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was, but he came off and then 
Ray Davis fumble again and four,

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four balls on the ground by the 
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recovered 0 by the Kansas City 
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Ray Davis came in fumble, 
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then I believe proceeded the 4th
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conversion. 
I can't. 

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Remember the next? 
Sequence. 

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Yeah, I can't remember the exact
that drive by the way, this will

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hear everyone. 
You can get your annoying Kansas

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City and then we can we can move
on and we can get to some ADP 

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after this. 
A nine play 29 yard drive in 

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which your goal is to get to 4th
down every single time. 

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Yes. 
Did Allen probably get the first

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down And like, if we scaled it 
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see which mitochondria of the 
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didn't. 
Yeah, he probably did. 

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He also got picked up and 
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of scrimmage. 
So how much do you want to rule 

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forward progress? 
But how about this? 

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How about you're Josh Allen and 
you're the Bills and you've kind

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of been kicking their ass. 
Why don't you just go kick their

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ass? 
Why are you trying to go 3 yards

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at a time? 
It doesn't make any sense. 

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You're Josh Allen go go make 
stuff happen, dude. 

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The the the two biggest plays of
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the touchdown to Matt Collins 
and then the third and 13 

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conversion. 
Matt Collins didn't look like 

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the Chiefs had a hope against 
those plays. 

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It's like Josh Allen could do 
this all night. 

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And then they just were like, 
Nah, no cooking. 

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I. 
Mean Mike, I know this isn't 

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this you know I'm calling from 
from Buffalo now and this is Pat

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from Buffalo going you. 
Want to talk to the bulldog 

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instead? 
Yeah, we got to the Bulldog. 

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Yeah, They gotta get rid of 
McDermott. 

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What are we doing? 
What are we doing is holding 

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them back? 
He's holding them back. 

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They're never going to get over 
the top. 

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You want to talk about a broad 
receiver? 

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There's no wide receiver. 
So we're going to pick. 

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We're picking too late. 
We can't get any wide receivers.

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The only thing we can do is get 
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who's actually going to maximize
the quarterback. 

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What do you think? 
All right, I'll hang up. 

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Take my answer off. 
I'll take my answer off there. 

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I'm, I'm of course, I mean, I 
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that started last night. 
The first caller to the postgame

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show who got through with the, 
that Screener puts the call 

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through and it says on the 
screen, blow it up. 

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The first, the first guy who got
through wanted to blow it up. 

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I don't know what, what do you 
think? 

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Like they're not going to do 
that. 

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You see? 
Well now I'm just curious about 

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how radio works. 
You see their label, someone 

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label someone takes the thing 
and gets a vibe for what the 

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person wants and then labels 
the. 

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Call right? 
What? 

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What the point is? 
What the main point of the The 

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callers, You know what they want
to say. 

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It's a Yeah, it's. 
You beautifully pick. 

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Yes, hello, blow it up. 
Yeah. 

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Well, you know it's going to 
there's going to be a pretty 

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good range. 
There's going to be a pretty 

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good range. 
But I do think Cook will be 

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interesting. 
I would guess he gets he's got 

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one year left, but I would guess
that they. 

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They should. 
They should pay him. 

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They also should fire McDermott.
They never will. 

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That's just not. 
It's not. 

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Really, I think they situations 
work. 

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I think they should fire 
McDermott too and just promote 

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Brady at this point because. 
No you you want new juju in this

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building bro. 
You you do want new Juju, but 

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Brady, Brady gives you a more 
direct answer to like the the 

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question, right? 
Like if Brady is he's hired to 

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like take the offense to the 
next level, right? 

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If he doesn't do that now you 
fire him and you bring in a guy 

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on the offensive side to to pair
with Josh. 

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I just, I feel like he's a 
stepping stone potentially. 

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And maybe, maybe it's a dumb 
idea because you don't have that

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much time to waste, but like, at
this point in the cycle, who are

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you getting if you were to fire 
McDermott? 

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And they won't. 
And the juju is the thing I 

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think they value the most about 
everything they have, right? 

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The whole season was kumbaya. 
The whole season was we didn't 

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need Stefan digs. 
I mean, it's fair to point out 

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digs in these big playoff games 
kind of been a no show anyway. 

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Cost them last year against the 
Chiefs. 

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Allen, on the last drive of last
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9. 
He went over three targeting 

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digs on that drive, including a 
bomb that was like right in his 

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hands. 
And digs, of course, in his way,

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gets up from that play, he's 
like a little bit of a better. 

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Pass. 
Can I, can I tell you why Sean 

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McDermott has absolutely got to 
be out of this building? 

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There are two reasons. 
The first being he clearly is 

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the sort of nervous neurotic 
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That first drive, the two 
sailed. 

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Allen passes. 
Guess who doesn't ever do that? 

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Championship teams you. 
You don't have you don't have 

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your quarterback so nervous. 
He takes his eyes off the snap 

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on the second drive, which Josh 
Allen did. 

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And then the second reason they 
go, they do the halftime 

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interview and they ask him, you 
know what, what are you going to

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do? 
What's going to change? 

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And he's basically like 
searching for an answer. 

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And then he's like Kayer Elam 
just has to play better. 

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He's just got to find a way. 
And it's like, bro, this quite 

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literally your job to make sure 
that he doesn't have to find a 

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way. 
Your job is to use the personnel

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that you have to make that man's
life easier. 

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You got to hide him. 
You got to do what you got to 

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do. 
You got to come up with some 

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blitz packages. 
You got to figure out something 

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with your safeties. 
You you can't just say we got to

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play better, man. 
That is, that is just so poor. 

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In my opinion, just much easier 
said than done against that team

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in that in that stadium. 
Just I mean, they lost their 

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their best corner in the game, 
Benford to a concussion and they

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played without a starting 
safety. 

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Is it his job? 
Yes. 

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And the the story of these 
playoff games has been the 

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Mahomes has kind of done 
whatever he wanted. 

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They finally cleared 30 points. 
Isn't it interesting, by the 

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way, too, that Lamar Jackson in 
the Buffalo game was very 

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similar to Allen yesterday? 
Kind of a a couple of messy 

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moments, turnovers, of course, 
you know. 

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Baltimore, I, I think the same 
thing about that organization. 

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They're they are they get too 
tight in the playoffs. 

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They they all everyone in the 
Ravens and the Bills. 

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That's kind of the Bengals 
superpower is they their coach 

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is such a moron that there's 
nothing to get right about. 

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Zach Taylor is so clueless that 
they don't even know to be 

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scared. 
I think is. 

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Well then what? 
Then how do you explain Jared 

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Goff's meltdown? 
He's just not very good, right? 

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There's got to be. 
There's got to be an answer. 

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There's got to be an answer. 
Like Goff got, it's like the 

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13th best quarterback in the NFL
and then we all elevated. 

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That is true. 
No, that that's very true. 

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That's fair. 
Yeah, a good old passion. 

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That's fair. 
The the thing with McDermott is 

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that I understand what is going 
to happen is not what I think 

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should happen. 
So I'm not. 

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It's like, you know, I'm kind of
shouting into the the void here.

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But the reason I think that it 
would be really smart for them 

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to get rid of them at this point
and promote Brady is that I 

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mean, you're keeping continuity 
on offense, right? 

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The other thing is that Brady 
was, you know, he was part of 

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the the cycle this year to get, 
you know, if if Cohen had stayed

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with the Bucks, he might very 
well have be the Jaguars head 

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coach. 
You're going to lose Brady most 

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likely, right? 
And unless it's a disaster next 

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year and they fire him. 
But wouldn't you rather, if 

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that's going to happen, have him
be the head coach so that you 

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can fully reset? 
It would suck to have it be a 

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disaster and then Sean McDermott
hiring your next OC so. 

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You know, the, the, the sorry, 
Pat, the, the comp is to Dabel 

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who was here and we had the same
conversations four years ago 

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about him and. 
Then they. 

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Fired. 
They fired Dabel's replacement. 

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That always made sense to me, 
too. 

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But I don't think Dabel comes 
off at all as somebody who's fit

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to be an NFL head coach. 
He's just, you know, he's got 

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the offensive brain. 
So that again is what you don't 

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have. 
To dabel or what? 

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It Dabel over Brady for me. 
No, it's OK. 

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So you're saying, you said you 
don't think Dabel comes off as 

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a, did you? 
Mean as a coordinator? 

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Yeah, no like that. 
That was the argument then and 

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the the the bills so pride 
themselves on the, you know, the

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efficiency, the organization, 
like there's never they're 

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they're pretty clean. 
So that's what McDermott is, you

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know, in a general sense kind of
offers them and yeah, does there

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have does there have to be, does
there have to be traffic? 

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Sorry, Patrick is. 
Hired by somebody else and then 

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you're going to you're going to 
be stuck with whoever the next 

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Ken Dorsey is. 
It's. 

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Maybe, yeah, maybe maybe that 
happens next year. 

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I don't think there necessarily 
has to be traffic either with a 

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the head coach. 
I'm not I'm not Mcdermott's 

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biggest fan, by the way, but 
that he's a defensive coach. 

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Does the offense run any more 
efficiently if Brady is the head

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coach of the team and not the 
offensive coordinator? 

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Like does that have to happen? 
What you you needed this defence

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to show up in that game for the 
first time and they really 

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didn't. 
That's also that's. 

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Like, these are, these are all 
just weighted coin flips really.

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And one team has Mahomes and the
other one doesn't. 

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So that's like an extra 5% to 
the weight. 

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And sometimes it's really just 
that simple like that. 

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We can, everyone can cope and 
see, then come up with their 

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reasons. 
And Josh Allen's greatest crime 

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was being born in the same 
generation as Pat Mahomes. 

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And there's not really any shame
in that, you know, it just is 

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what it is. 
If you have a a defensive head 

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coach where the defense isn't 
good and you're starting to see 

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a carousel form at your 
offensive coordinator spot, 

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that's one of the worst spots 
you can be in if you have a 

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franchise quarterback. 
Like it's just it's just they're

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stuck. 
Like I think they have to they 

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have to get rid of McDermott at 
some point because they can't 

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like they they're not be able to
hold the offensive coordinate. 

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I mean, the bucks are are in the
same spot. 

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Like, wouldn't they? 
Like if you gave them truth 

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here, I'm like, who would you 
rather be the head coach right 

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now, Bowles or Liam Cohen? 
You'd rather have Liam. 

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Cullen. 
Yeah, it's it's a tough spot 

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when like even if the defense is
good, which the Bucks defense 

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wasn't, wasn't good either, like
these defensive minded head 

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coaches and the defense isn't 
there. 

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I understand there's like 
organization building and kind 

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of the CEO stuff and that's, you
know, there, there is something 

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to that. 
It's not nothing, but it's it is

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tough to just like be at the 
mercy of the rest of the league 

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and kind of who your offensive 
coordinator is. 

451
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:59,120
You're constantly losing that 
guy. 

452
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,880
Understood. 
Your dog Murphy, right? 

453
00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,240
Murphy doesn't seem to move. 
He he or she has not. 

454
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,560
This is not the first time 
they're hearing all these 

455
00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:10,200
arguments from you. 
Just not. 

456
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:14,400
Careless about whether or not 
Mcdermott's in. 

457
00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:19,760
Buffalo, evidently all right, 
thoughts on the other game Like 

458
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:24,360
just I my beautiful gauntlet 
team lost by 6 with oh. 

459
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,880
Sorry man. 
Daniels, Barkley, Worthy and 

460
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,920
Maclaurin. 
I mean, could I have asked for 

461
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,520
any more? 
I got a touchdown from 

462
00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:33,520
Maclaurin. 
I got. 

463
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:35,480
I got there with. 
Worthy cream hunt. 

464
00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,840
Are you in or? 
Yes, it was. 

465
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,600
The other guy had Hertz, Hunt 
and Goddard. 

466
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,840
We both had Kelsey that we 
didn't use and I didn't get 

467
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,160
anything from Pacheco or Brian 
Robinson. 

468
00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,400
So 96 points, not good enough. 
That really hurt. 

469
00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,280
I really wanted that. 
Yeah, that team was sick. 

470
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,960
Mahomes on it, too. 
I'm watching Daniels put up 25, 

471
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,440
I think it was, and thinking to 
head to the late game, like 

472
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:00,600
Mahomes is not going to clear 
that probably. 

473
00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,920
So, you know, I'm kind of stuck 
with that number. 

474
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,960
And he didn't, right? 
He didn't get to that. 

475
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,760
I had two Russian touchdowns. 
He he had to off right? 

476
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,080
I don't. 
Think I counted him against 

477
00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:12,920
Daniels? 
Maybe, but. 

478
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:17,520
I, I'm just, I'm so tilted about
playoff basketball, like all my 

479
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:20,200
most drafted players, my most 
drafted combinations, just 

480
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,000
absolutely like every team I 
drafted was Eagles, Chiefs. 

481
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,760
I had like think I had an eagle 
on 45% of my team's total. 

482
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:29,960
Just misery. 
Like I'm just tilting. 

483
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:32,320
Like just say actually tilting 
my face off. 

484
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:36,920
Just so so annoying. 
You're right, Mahomes got to 30,

485
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,480
so you're right about that. 
Yeah, 22 watching. 

486
00:23:39,640 --> 00:23:47,600
Touchdowns saw that was Mahomes 
is 4th designed rush call called

487
00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:51,040
by Andy Reid since the knee 
injury against the Broncos in 

488
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:54,880
2019. 
They've all all gone for first 

489
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,680
downs or touchdowns, all all 
four of the called rushes, which

490
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,760
is pretty interesting. 
I got a let's move on. 

491
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,200
I Davis, you know I love you, 
but you you're the the gloating,

492
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,760
the just the the sheer joy 
emanating from you about the 

493
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,080
Chiefs win. 
It's it's it's. 

494
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:13,720
It was really the moment it was 
Kincaid that dropped the pass 

495
00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:15,960
man, yes. 
I literally thought of you. 

496
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,240
I was like, I can't believe this
is happening. 

497
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,800
Like Davis must be so happy 
right now. 

498
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:23,920
We. 
We will. 

499
00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,760
Let's do. 
Some ADPI got to correct myself 

500
00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,720
again really quickly. 
First, though, the team I 

501
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,320
thought beat me is not the team 
that beat me. 

502
00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,640
The team that beat me was 
Daniels, Barkley, cook Ertz and 

503
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:36,720
Kelsey. 
OK oh Cook. 

504
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,320
Gotcha. 
Damn. 

505
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:40,280
Zacker. 
Cook 22. 

506
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,480
The Eagles. 
Eagles turns out building a 

507
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,240
roster from top to bottom that's
absolutely stacked is good. 

508
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,400
Just like beyond stacked, just 
like all pros at every position.

509
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,320
Turns out that's good. 
Turns out being in the NFC is 

510
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,280
good. 
Also also NFC, yeah. 

511
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,800
Yeah. 
All right, let's go next year. 

512
00:24:57,880 --> 00:24:59,720
What are we looking at so far? 
What have you? 

513
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,720
What have you guys seen so far? 
Well here this is. 

514
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:06,720
I just want to do this first 
I've done 3 drafts, 2 on stream 

515
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,600
and then a little bored I I've 
taken hunter every time that. 

516
00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,400
I've taken him a couple times 
too. 

517
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:18,560
There there, there is literally 
0 downside at wide receiver 73 

518
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,880
ADP 169. 
Like guess what? 

519
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,840
A lot of the guys you take at 
wide receiver 73 are zeros 

520
00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,160
anyway. 
Like, just like Stone Cold, like

521
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,760
not going to get drafted, going 
to get hurt on there. 

522
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:34,160
You know there are 11 months 
before the money week, you know.

523
00:25:34,360 --> 00:25:36,680
In this tournament. 
A lot of a lot of stuff can 

524
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:37,600
happen. 
What are we doing? 

525
00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:42,240
All right, that was ADP chasing,
but. 

526
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:44,640
I'm not going to rescue you on 
this. 

527
00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,440
Let's let's just say we, we wake
up tomorrow morning and Travis 

528
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:54,440
Hunter has said, I'm actually 
just, I don't want to play 

529
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,120
corner. 
I just it's too hard. 

530
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:01,560
Offense looks more fun in that 
universe. 

531
00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,680
Where does he go in the draft if
he says I don't want to play 

532
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,200
corner anymore? 
And then where does he go in the

533
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:11,160
big board? 
So in the NFL draft, I honestly 

534
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,440
think that Hunter could be a bit
of a faller in the process. 

535
00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,560
Is it is like because is he 
going to like our team's going 

536
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,480
to be interested in playing both
ways, right? 

537
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,000
So like if he were just a wide, 
if you were like literally like 

538
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,520
I will not play a snap for you 
at cornerback, I'm not playing 

539
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:29,200
special teams. 
I'm just a wide receiver. 

540
00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:30,880
He'd still be a first round 
pick. 

541
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,840
I agree. 
I think it I think it would be a

542
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,800
debate between him and Tet 
though for the first wide 

543
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:36,480
receiver off the board. 
I think he would go ahead and 

544
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,840
Luther Burden pretty 
comfortably. 

545
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,920
Yeah, I'd rather just have him 
than Tet, because the physical 

546
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,800
tools are so crazy. 
Whereas like Tet, like I just 

547
00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:47,600
kind of know who he is. 
Ted's more of like a possession 

548
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,440
receiver, I think, and doesn't 
get so much separation. 

549
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,800
Yeah, he's Drake, yeah, kind of 
Drake London. 

550
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,160
So I mean, obviously that's 
that's good. 

551
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:58,640
But yeah, I think he, I think 
for a number of teams, Hunter 

552
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,880
would be the wide receiver one 
and would still have a strong 

553
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:04,880
chance of going top 10. 
So, OK, so I mean, let's say he 

554
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,160
went like 12th. 
Now we got the wide receiver 

555
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,800
going, going 12th. 
Where does he go on the big 

556
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,800
board? 
Probably fifth round where 

557
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,280
McMillan is right now. 
Yeah, fifth round, maybe fourth,

558
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,120
end of the fourth. 
So yeah, it's a huge value game.

559
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,160
But The thing is like, OK, 
Counter, that's not gonna 

560
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:26,440
happen. 
He's probably gonna play corner.

561
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:32,560
But what if a wide receiver on 
his team gets hurt? 

562
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:35,520
What if, what if at the end of 
the season, they're just like 

563
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,560
having him fill in more at wide 
receiver, you know? 

564
00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,240
Like he's just like he's on a 
crappy team and they're just 

565
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:43,760
like, I don't know, why don't 
you go run some routes? 

566
00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:46,040
You don't have to practice. 
Why don't you just go run some 

567
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:49,720
routes, Travis? 
Hunter's got like a 50% route 

568
00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:54,040
participation, maybe 60, and 
he's just like drawing targets 

569
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,440
at a really high rate. 
That would be awesome. 

570
00:27:56,600 --> 00:28:01,200
Like this is a price where one 
spike week in week 1516 or 17 

571
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,600
immediately pays it off. 
And, and it's going to be gone 

572
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,120
like immediately by like next 
week, it's he's going to be like

573
00:28:06,120 --> 00:28:09,040
a tenth round pick. 
That's where I thought he was 

574
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,520
going to go. 
And there is like, that's a real

575
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,680
uncomfortable price. 
But I mean, this, this dude is 

576
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,320
one of the most unique special 
players we've seen in college 

577
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,480
football like ever. 
Why aren't we being asked to do 

578
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,240
something uncomfortable? 
I think he started with no ADP 

579
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,560
and so you kind of had to know 
to draft him. 

580
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:29,840
And so I do think I think you're
right, dude, he's going to 

581
00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,320
continue to rise. 
He's like, he hasn't been like a

582
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,640
a star at the beginning of the 
draft type player for me. 

583
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,960
He's been someone I'm I'm taking
when I think the wide receiver 

584
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,000
room I'm building can afford a 
straight 0. 

585
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:45,280
But yeah, I I do think it's. 
Arguing well, all my all my 

586
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:49,640
teams I've drafted thus far can 
afford a stone 0A wide receiver 

587
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,720
and desperately need something 
to happen at running back. 

588
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:57,240
The the, the overreaction, the 
overreaction at running back. 

589
00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:00,240
I mean it. 
I I knew it was going to be bad,

590
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,560
but this like some of this stuff
is crazy. 

591
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,600
Dude chase around Bucky with Joe
Mixon. 

592
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,880
I'm I don't mind the Bucky 1 so 
much. 

593
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,080
Bucky's fine. 
Bucky's fine. 

594
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,400
I think honestly, Breece Hall 
going in at 30 I think is a big 

595
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:17,240
opportunity. 
That's like way too late. 

596
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,880
This dude is a really good pass 
catcher. 

597
00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,640
He's gonna be 24 next year. 
He's got side Mixon going way 

598
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,320
ahead of Breece. 
Strikes me as like people have 

599
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,400
lost their minds. 
Like, Mixon's not good. 

600
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,360
He's I think it'll be 29 next 
year. 

601
00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:37,280
He's very dependent on, you 
know, the an offense that was 

602
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:41,360
like built around him. 
Hey, did they fire their OC? 

603
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:42,720
Did that? 
Did that fail? 

604
00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:46,840
You know, like, was that, was 
that an abject failure? 

605
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,640
I can't remember. 
So not to say that Nixon won't 

606
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,960
get work, but like this dude has
a lot of downside risk in a 

607
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,320
class where there's a lot of 
really interesting running 

608
00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,400
backs. 
You know it it'd be different if

609
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,960
it was like last year's running 
back class, but Mixon's a dude 

610
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,280
where you could see them 
drafting a guy in the second or 

611
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:06,720
third round and by the end of 
the season his role is 

612
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,160
drastically different. 
I don't think he's got the mote 

613
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:11,760
from like a talent perspective 
that some of these other backs 

614
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,480
going in this range do Mixon's. 
I was just like really surprised

615
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,440
for him. 
I mean, if you look on FFPC, 

616
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,840
Mixon's going more like at the 
4-5 turn. 

617
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,200
And that's not a site that has 
any issue drafting running 

618
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:25,880
backs. 
So this just strikes me as like 

619
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:30,600
a really bad initial ranking 
slash initial ADP that kind of 

620
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,600
locked in that ranking. 
That's that's one I've just I 

621
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,440
some of the some of the running 
back prices I think are fine. 

622
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,680
But I do think that there's, 
there's some stuff here where 

623
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,280
you're like, oh, that's an easy 
fade. 

624
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,040
The issue for me is the first 
and second round running backs 

625
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,640
look good and then the like 6th 
and 7th running backs look good 

626
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,120
but like that just means I'm 
going to end up drafting a shit 

627
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,840
ton of the same team again you 
know? 

628
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,200
Yeah, I think the the first and 
second round running backs look 

629
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,440
pretty good. 
But you know what, there's like 

630
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:03,560
I I like drafting. 
Another guy I'm really into 

631
00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,560
right now is Kenneth Walker. 
Yes, yeah, Walker. 

632
00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,240
Would so late, Yeah, he's still 
lead back. 

633
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,280
The offensive line stinks. 
There's quarterback uncertainty.

634
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:14,960
There. 
Should be a discount. 

635
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:18,800
Another another Yeah OC. 
And A and a huge, potentially 

636
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:20,880
good one. 
Everyone was everyone was saying

637
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:25,320
Clint Kubiak's the new, he's the
hot head coach hire and and then

638
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:28,680
everyone died. 
Everyone in New Orleans got hurt

639
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,120
and and they stunk. 
It's like, wow, that that's 

640
00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:35,200
pretty predictable. 
Yeah, so I mean that. 

641
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,080
I mean, he liked, he was running
the hell out of the ball in New 

642
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:40,960
Orleans. 
So I I think Walker, I don't 

643
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:42,920
really get Walker's pretty 
young. 

644
00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:45,880
Chardonnay is good and, and I, I
don't have any issue with 

645
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:50,160
Chardonnay's rather juicy ADPI 
mean he's he's a, he's got 

646
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:52,720
awesome contingent value and I 
think he's pretty good and maybe

647
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,880
he forces more of a split, but I
think even if you bake in some 

648
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:59,000
of that downside with Walker and
there is downside, he's still a 

649
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,320
target for me. 
I I think this is a really nice 

650
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:04,960
price. 
Here's my my great prediction. 

651
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:06,760
This isn't even that good of a 
prediction. 

652
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,920
I think it's pretty obvious the 
Rams are going to take somebody 

653
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:14,440
and the the Kyron Korum 
experience, like Korum feels 

654
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:19,040
like he's already entered into 
the there's so many of these 

655
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,960
guys. 
Like what I was, I was trying to

656
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,200
come up with the best, you know,
rookie running back. 

657
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,280
We all like to immediately goes 
to 0. 

658
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,320
You know, it's Ben, Ben Tate. 
Maybe I I don't. 

659
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,200
I mean, there's been how about 
how about how about Daryl 

660
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:34,400
Henderson? 
How about he's just Daryl 

661
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:37,640
Henderson again, you know? 
Yeah, or. 

662
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,920
Just just gets erased. 
Trey Sermon. 

663
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:46,120
Trey, Trey Sermon. 
Yeah, I think yeah. 

664
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:48,560
Videl, come on, come on. 
E Videl. 

665
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,400
I mean, yeah. 
Yeah, for real. 

666
00:32:50,680 --> 00:32:54,400
Yeah, just absolute, absolute 0.
I could see that with Quorum. 

667
00:32:54,400 --> 00:33:00,400
Yeah, I, you know, the tricky, 
the 22 tricky guys are Chase 

668
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,960
Brown and Carmen Williams. 
Because if they don't have 

669
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:07,600
anything major happen, they're 
smashes. 

670
00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:14,040
But if they do, they go to 0. 
They could go to zero and chase 

671
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:18,480
Brown. 
You know, he just is the the 

672
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:24,040
profile of guy that has the one 
crazy year and then just like 

673
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:26,680
immediately the team doesn't 
care. 

674
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,840
Like we've seen this happens. 
No one was a bigger Chase Brown 

675
00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:35,800
sloppy than me. 
Truly, no one was and I just I 

676
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,720
think it's so unlikely that 
they, a round five guy this 

677
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,640
year, could just out carry him, 
you know? 

678
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,240
Well, what I what I want to be 
doing is trying to figure out, 

679
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,160
trying to predict where the the 
puck is going in terms of like 

680
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,960
the scheme and the personnel. 
And if I were Cincinnati, it 

681
00:33:56,160 --> 00:33:58,680
would just say like, well, 
offensively we were kind of 

682
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,480
perfect. 
We'll see what happens with T 

683
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,360
Higgins, but I would just sort 
of chalk that up as a win and 

684
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,000
not focus on it. 
Running back is running back 

685
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,520
anyway. 
There's a day three pick that's 

686
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,000
going to land there probably. 
But I would want to go into the 

687
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,960
season expecting maybe not to 
the quite the same workload, but

688
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,600
expecting, you know, Chase Brown
to work out for me and not be 

689
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:20,920
instead thinking about ways to 
mitigate that. 

690
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,480
I know, but that's like it just 
doesn't happen. 

691
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,880
Like these teams, they hit on 
guys like the Panthers hit on 

692
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,920
Shuba Hubbard and then they're 
like sick, let's drop Jonathan 

693
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,600
Brooks in the second round. 
Like these the teams. 

694
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:36,719
It's a weird thing. 
Like a team that values having a

695
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,880
running back. 
Also like often values running 

696
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,120
backs. 
Running backs. 

697
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,880
And so then they take a running 
back. 

698
00:34:43,199 --> 00:34:45,239
You know, it's like, yeah, you 
did it, you got a running back. 

699
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,239
You don't need that one now. 
You you check the box and that's

700
00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:52,719
not how they view it. 
I mean, Kyron himself is 

701
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:53,960
actually a great example of 
this. 

702
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,880
Kyron smashes out of nowhere, 
totally unexpected. 

703
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,640
He's like the best player on the
team. 

704
00:34:59,960 --> 00:35:02,200
And then they take Korum and 
they don't, they don't end up 

705
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,840
giving Korum the ball because 
Sean McVay kind of can't help 

706
00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:09,280
himself. 
But Kyron himself is is is 

707
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,760
actually the best example of 
what we're talking. 

708
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:13,160
Phillip. 
I mean, Phillip Lindsay's the 

709
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,440
one I always go back to. 
Right, Phillip Lindsay. 

710
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:18,080
But they go it's like, hey, that
was awesome. 

711
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,720
We loved that. 
We loved hitting on a running 

712
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:21,680
back. 
What if we got? 

713
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,200
That from a more expensive 
player. 

714
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:24,440
We. 
Don't. 

715
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,360
We don't want to go back to when
we didn't have a guy we loved. 

716
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,640
Let's take another guy just in 
case this guy goes to dust. 

717
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,040
We have like another guy. 
It's like, I'll just take the 

718
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,360
gift, man. 
James Robinson, who was so good.

719
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,720
And then it's ETN in the first 
round, I mean. 

720
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,880
Yes, literally. 
I mean the like this is truly a 

721
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,920
mini such cases thing. 
There's so many cases. 

722
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,120
There's so many cases, even the 
Damien Pierce. 

723
00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:54,360
Damien Pierce smashes, smashes 
and they say Devin Singletary. 

724
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,080
Come on down, brother. 
Well, that's that's that's more,

725
00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:58,640
I think at least they didn't 
draft. 

726
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,520
They brought in another that was
actually Damien Pierce sucking. 

727
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:07,040
They gave him another run. 
Algier, Algier, Algier. 

728
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,600
Oh my God, That's Bijon. 
Bijon. 

729
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,000
Yeah, Bijon Algier. 
That one's crazy. 

730
00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,320
I mean, the the Cardinals, they 
draft, they get James Conner. 

731
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,360
They're like, we love James. 
Oh my God, we can't. 

732
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:21,840
We couldn't love a right? 
Back more. 

733
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,920
Yeah, let's take Trey Benson out
the third round and then not 

734
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,920
play him and have no interest in
playing it's. 

735
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,600
It's It's actually only because 
the 2024 running back class was 

736
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,520
bad that Isaiah Pacheco didn't 
fall victim to this. 

737
00:36:35,920 --> 00:36:39,320
It really was only just because 
the the there was no one that 

738
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:42,320
was a great scheme fit for the 
Chiefs in the draft last year 

739
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,360
that that Pacheco was not 
immediately replaced. 

740
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,160
Well, let me get your thoughts 
on this 'cause I, I think when 

741
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,720
when the big board opened, I 
think the very worst click in 

742
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:53,960
the entire pool was Pacheco, I 
believe had an initial ADP of 

743
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:57,800
like 45 or something. 
We have him at 111. 

744
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:03,840
I don't understand. 
So the issue there is if it 

745
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:08,520
really is Clyderwood Solaire 
situation where Tony Pollard 

746
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:14,080
situation where he's just not 
healthy from this broken leg and

747
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,400
he comes back and he's healthy 
next year then. 

748
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,360
There's no pedigree though, like
once you get passed by Kareem 

749
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,800
Hunt and you're on a Super Bowl,
potentially 3 peeding team, like

750
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:30,680
you know what your seventh round
pick like they're in a in a a 

751
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,120
pretty loaded running back class
in terms of depth. 

752
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,760
The floor here is. 
The, the, I mean, he's got the, 

753
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,840
he's got the same floor as Chase
Brown. 

754
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,240
No. 
No, he's got a way. 

755
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,400
He's got a way lower floor. 
I mean, he he could he could 

756
00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:49,960
conceivably like be the running 
back three next year. 

757
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:56,400
Yeah, the Kansas City is a a 
stone lock to take a running 

758
00:37:56,400 --> 00:38:00,560
back because P Ryan is 30 
whatever, probably just not 

759
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,520
going to be on the team. 
And I assume that Hunt will also

760
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,200
be probably retired next year, 
so. 

761
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:11,600
But I love, I love spending a 
fifth round pick on a guy who 

762
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,520
just lost his job to someone 
who's going to retire. 

763
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:14,960
That seems like a great use of 
track. 

764
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:17,960
Yeah, it's just the the question
you, the question you have to 

765
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:22,160
ask yourself is OK, is this a 
Woody Mark spot? 

766
00:38:22,240 --> 00:38:25,320
Like they want a pass catching 
guy to compliment Pacheco? 

767
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,400
Or is this the Caleb Johnson 
Khalil Mullings? 

768
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:32,840
Kyle Mullins is like Kareem 
Hunt, but 20. 

769
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,480
Two, I love Kyle Mullins. 
He's so fun. 

770
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:37,840
It's so fun. 
Another guy didn't have an ADP 

771
00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,280
to start. 
The the the Chiefs will not take

772
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,640
a a wide receiver. 
I I'd be like legitimately 

773
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,840
surprised if they take they 
have, they have so many more 

774
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:46,080
holes. 
Like they like their wide 

775
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,800
receiver room though. 
Well, he Ryan's volts free 

776
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,320
agents. 
I mean the the veterans are both

777
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,360
free agents. 
Well, Hollywood will be back. 

778
00:38:52,760 --> 00:38:54,320
He'll probably be back, yeah. 
P rhymes. 

779
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,280
One touch on the last play was a
dagger for sure. 

780
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,000
One touch in the game. 
Well, I mean, his like whole 

781
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:04,400
season has been that he just 
he's only he's only come out and

782
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:08,680
and by the way, Rashi like heard
anything about a suspension? 

783
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,280
I think it would be like, what 
are we thinking? 

784
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:15,840
Maybe a four four games next. 
Year 4 games Rashi is one of the

785
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:20,280
best picks in the pool. 
He's going earlier on FFPC. 

786
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,480
He's been a priority for me in 
these early drafts. 

787
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:25,840
I would recommend. 
I don't think this ADP hold. 

788
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:28,520
I mean, one thing I think one of
the easiest things is go check 

789
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:34,760
out the ADP over on FPC and get 
a sense of like what what's 

790
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,400
happening there Because you 
know, there's certain guys I'm 

791
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:41,200
like like Rashi Rice, for 
example, does not strike me as 

792
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:44,960
someone that FFFPC drafters are 
like going to be in love with, 

793
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:45,760
right? 
He's a. 

794
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,960
Great point. 
He's a wide receiver who's going

795
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,200
to get suspended. 
That's generally a guy who'd be 

796
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,320
pretty cheap over there. 
He's going in the third round. 

797
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,840
So is he going to hold here in 
the fifth round? 

798
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,840
I don't think so. 
I really don't. 

799
00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,040
He's, you know, the PCL thing 
was described as best case 

800
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,760
scenario for that injury by 
injury. 

801
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:07,400
But some of the injury stuff 
that I read and you know, he's 

802
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,560
going to have a suspension that 
will very likely be the first 

803
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:13,440
four games of the season and. 
You know, so if any, if there 

804
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,400
was any issues with a lingering 
injury, you know, he's not going

805
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,640
to play till week 5. 
So I don't know. 

806
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:23,200
I, I, the one of the things 
about this year is that you're 

807
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,240
probably, if you want running 
backs in this environment, in 

808
00:40:27,240 --> 00:40:28,720
the big board environment. 
We'll see how it shakes out 

809
00:40:28,720 --> 00:40:32,280
after the draft, but it it is 
helpful to to spend some early 

810
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:36,000
capital on running back. 
You know, you get guys like 

811
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:39,440
Rashi Rice, you got Tyreek Hill.
I think Devante Adams going in 

812
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:43,800
like the the 6th 7th round is 
like he is pretty nice there. 

813
00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,720
There's actually, there's some 
wide receivers if you, if you 

814
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:50,560
want to skip wide receiver in 
round one or round two or both, 

815
00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:53,920
you can recover, right. 
I've, I've built teams where 

816
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,360
I've, I've taken like one wide 
receiver in the 1st 4 rounds and

817
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,480
they're not my favorite teams, 
But I think you can actually 

818
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,840
like dig out a little bit, but 
you're digging out I think with 

819
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,040
prices that aren't going to 
hold. 

820
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,040
So it's it's. 
That's The thing is some of 

821
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,120
these guys are going to go way 
up, like McMillan, Golden. 

822
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,040
Actually, after the show you and
I do today, I think it'll just 

823
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:14,640
be it for Golden. 
Think Golden will. 

824
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:17,280
Probably be. 
It'll be it'll be over. 

825
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,800
I think he's going to rise, 
Yeah. 

826
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,160
I mean, that's the thing that I 
think that's why like. 

827
00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,920
This, this is the funniest, this
is the funniest ADP in the pool.

828
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,560
Jail, jail and Royals wide 
receiver 67 Just for no, just 

829
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,800
for no reason. 
They're just, I mean, cool. 

830
00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:37,000
Cool name I guess. 
Kaden Kaden Prather, right? 

831
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,360
I think is the strangest one to 
me. 

832
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,080
I I don't have much interest in 
him at all. 

833
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:42,920
He he goes right there. 
Yeah. 

834
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:45,560
Yeah, I'm, I'm mostly what? 
OK. 

835
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:49,960
Man, no one is going to they're 
Gary Gensler on the SEC is not 

836
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:52,960
going to be able to separate me 
from 80 Mitchell wide receiver 

837
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,360
80 that this guy is going to be 
brutal. 

838
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,360
I mean, what am I even supposed 
to do with that bro? 

839
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,600
LED LED the NFL or LED the NFL 
for a while? 

840
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:03,680
Probably probably top top ten in
the end. 

841
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,320
Targets per route run Wide 
receiver watch. 

842
00:42:06,320 --> 00:42:07,800
And what was his yards per route
run? 

843
00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,520
Irrelevant. 
It's irrelevant at wide receiver

844
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:13,480
80. 
Completely irrelevant. 

845
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,200
Here's a good one. 
Cooper Cup starts week one. 

846
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,080
On what roster? 
How about this, On what roster? 

847
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:26,760
And how many underdog points is 
he projected for in? 

848
00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:33,880
So I think with Cooper Cup, he's
got a real chance to go be like 

849
00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:38,640
the Adam Thielen, the guy who's 
not who he was and isn't, but 

850
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,960
you and I are going to generally
be inclined to go. 

851
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:45,400
He's not what he was there for. 
He is dust, right? 

852
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:46,920
He got passed. 
It's similar, right? 

853
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,160
He got passed by the Jefferson. 
Jefferson came along and said 

854
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,480
this is my team now. 
Puka came along and said this is

855
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:58,880
my team now he he leaves. 
But I think he could accumulate 

856
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,760
targets on a bad receiving core.
You know, for example, what if 

857
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,120
he were a Patriot? 
Patriots are like. 

858
00:43:05,240 --> 00:43:09,400
More great fit patriots. 
Seriously fit Patriots. 

859
00:43:09,400 --> 00:43:13,640
The Patriots are like Denver 
would honestly, Peyton would 

860
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,160
probably rotate him so much. 
It would be. 

861
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:17,240
Yeah, I was going to say. 
He's like, you can't, you can't 

862
00:43:17,240 --> 00:43:19,960
be out there. 
When we got Lil Jordan, Humphrey

863
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,600
needed to get snacks. 
But I mean, what what if you 

864
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:26,520
went to the Giants and they, you
know, they get some kind of some

865
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,040
fill in quarterback and it's you
know, him, him and neighbors or 

866
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:32,440
something like there's there's 
spots where I think he could 

867
00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,280
accumulate Washington. 
That's a good one. 

868
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:35,520
That's a really good one. 
They're. 

869
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,640
Going to do something right? 
Oh, they need someone so bad. 

870
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,320
There's if you look at like the 
free agent class, Adams is 

871
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:45,560
functionally a free agent 
because he can just tell The 

872
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:49,240
Jets to to kick rocks. 
If if he doesn't want to go back

873
00:43:49,240 --> 00:43:51,040
there, they they owe him an 
absurd amount of money that 

874
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:54,400
they're not going to pay him. 
So he can force his way out very

875
00:43:54,400 --> 00:43:59,720
easily. 
T Higgins, Chris Godwin and it's

876
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:03,600
Stefan Diggs, but coming off an 
ACL tear, it gets thin at wide 

877
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:07,640
receiver like pretty quick. 
And that's it's like Hopkins and

878
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:11,240
Cooper, these guys who are like 
probably washed like you. 

879
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,440
You think about like who could 
have of the guys who are 

880
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,920
probably washed. 
You could actually just like 

881
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:18,400
kind of PP Rs way to some to 
some value cup. 

882
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,680
You know, I would, I would much 
rather bet on cup than like an 

883
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:30,920
Amari to do that. 
Arizona maybe if you, I'm 

884
00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:33,760
thinking about Waddle in the 
lobby too, you guys. 

885
00:44:34,520 --> 00:44:36,240
Mr. Mistresses in the chat. 
Dallas. 

886
00:44:36,240 --> 00:44:38,520
Dallas, yeah. 
I'd be pretty. 

887
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:40,120
I'd be pretty into him on 
Dallas. 

888
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:44,640
I'd be pretty into him on Dallas
too. 02 earlier a free or not a 

889
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,200
free agent, but he's a trade 
candidate. 

890
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:47,560
He's another name to keep in 
mind. 

891
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,800
To an earlier point, talking 
about like the the wide receiver

892
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,400
class and how it's breaking down
here, thinking about guys like 

893
00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,800
Jalen Waddle and Olave where the
the bloom was all the way off 

894
00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,400
the Rose last year was where 
this year was such a 

895
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,680
disappointment for those guys. 
Are those examples of what you 

896
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:06,800
think are good value where 
they're going or is, you know, 

897
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,120
there are different situations 
because of the concussions, 

898
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:12,080
maybe for Olave and some 
uncertainty there? 

899
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Olave's tougher because I also 
just think like it's the destiny

900
00:45:18,200 --> 00:45:21,720
of the Saints for this to happen
to them every year like that. 

901
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:23,680
They it's just such a mess 
everywhere. 

902
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,680
Let me tell you. 
Let me tell you the New Orleans 

903
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:29,560
St. that you want to be taken 
right now before everyone gets 

904
00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:34,080
woke. 
Taysom Hill move back to tight 

905
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:35,600
end. 
I mean it's crazy dude. 

906
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,880
Great there. 
There is simply no other tight 

907
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:42,200
end. 
I guess probably once you get 

908
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:45,640
past Mark Andrews, who can score
you 30 fantasy points in a game.

909
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,920
But but Taysom definitely can. 
But Olave. 

910
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:53,800
I like waddle more. 
I think probably I. 

911
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,320
Think with Taysom he's come off.
Wasn't a multi league meet here 

912
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,880
now? 
Yeah, it's not good. 

913
00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:00,400
He's pretty old. 
And. 

914
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,560
It's. 
He's he's 34. 

915
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,560
That's that's top buff on multi 
ligament needs here. 

916
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,280
I I don't know that I'm doing I 
was in on Tayson last year. 

917
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,840
I don't know if I'm going to do 
it again. 

918
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:18,080
The the guy like more between 
the two is Olave, who is the 

919
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,600
number one wide receiver on his 
team. 

920
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,080
Now. 
Shaheed is also good, you know, 

921
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,960
so it's not like a clear cut 
thing, but first round wide 

922
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,600
receiver, you know, high 
pedigree guy has been 

923
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:33,240
productive. 
The Saints it is it is tough 

924
00:46:33,240 --> 00:46:35,200
like it's like one of those 
things where it's easy to rank 

925
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,240
Olave ahead of ADP. 
But then when you're actually in

926
00:46:37,240 --> 00:46:39,880
there, like, am I actually going
to click Olave discussion issues

927
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:44,200
and and you got like Derek Carr,
like on this contract where they

928
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,280
kind of have to keep him, but 
they probably don't want him. 

929
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:51,680
And then so does that lead to a 
new coaching staff like testing 

930
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,040
out of Jackson Dart or a Jalen 
Millroe to end the year? 

931
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,600
Like he he's a very much if they
don't have anybody, I don't 

932
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:00,560
think they're going to bench him
to see more of Rattler. 

933
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,160
But if they spend a second or 
third round pick on a 

934
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,120
quarterback like he is the 
Carson Wentz to that guy's 

935
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,320
Shailen hurts to close that 
rookie season. 

936
00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,920
I think he he is they they can 
easily move on after the year. 

937
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,640
He's very unlikely to be there 
after the year. 

938
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,040
They just have no commitment. 
So you're kind of like, you 

939
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:21,560
know, with neighbors this past 
year. 

940
00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,440
He was awesome and ultimately 
like he had a kind of good, he 

941
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,920
had a good close to the season, 
but there were times where I was

942
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:31,280
like, I kind of knew this was 
going to happen, you know, and 

943
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,080
those some of the the the drags 
of the the veto lock era, I was 

944
00:47:36,080 --> 00:47:40,680
like, I knew this was likely. 
And it's it's it doesn't feel 

945
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,400
good when you're, you know, one 
of your important wide receiver 

946
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,480
pieces is is got like his third 
string quarterback thrown in the

947
00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,280
ball. 
There is that downside risk with

948
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,880
the lobby. 
I still think I'm going to be 

949
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:52,800
overweight if this price holds, 
though, because he's a good, 

950
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,840
he's a good wide receiver. 
It's nice to get a good wide 

951
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,200
receiver in the in the sixth 
round or whatever fifth round, I

952
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,760
guess. 
You you click a lave and the cup

953
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:04,480
chair just appears in your 
office. 

954
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:19,120
I mean, just so just just for 
example, I think I think Godwin 

955
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,400
is is actually Godwin. 
I think has has potentially a 

956
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:28,680
higher ceiling like a higher 
range of outcomes in in that 

957
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:32,320
range of the draft. 
Luther Burden is the IT could be

958
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,920
anything, even a Crystal Ave. 
Box, right. 

959
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,040
I'm not adding the burden, I 
think he's fine, but. 

960
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,320
Calvin Ridley, if I told you Sam
Darnold was the quarterback of 

961
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,720
the Tennessee Titans, what's 
that do for you? 

962
00:48:46,240 --> 00:48:48,120
I mean, yeah, I'm kind of into 
Ridley. 

963
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,280
If you told me Cam Ward is the 
is the quarterback and I don't, 

964
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,240
I'm not a big Ward guy at all, 
but Ridley's in a, in a spot 

965
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,480
where like he, he's the he's the
Sutton, right? 

966
00:48:59,480 --> 00:49:01,280
He's this year's Sutton. 
Like he's there's no 

967
00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:04,840
competition. 
He's not that good, but he's not

968
00:49:05,040 --> 00:49:07,480
he's, he's going to be the 
starting #1. 

969
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:09,520
Yeah, he's totally this year's 
Sutton. 

970
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:10,960
That's totally what. 
Yeah. 

971
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:14,000
I think he he's totally fine 
where he's going. 

972
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,480
I drafted him yesterday. 
I didn't like doing it, but 

973
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:19,960
like, OK, I'm into Rashe Rice, 
I'm into Ted McMillan. 

974
00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:25,400
You know, I'm like, OK, well, 
what if I both on the same team?

975
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,760
Where are my points coming at 
wide receiver early on? 

976
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,240
Like I'm taking some of these 
boring guys because they're 

977
00:49:31,240 --> 00:49:35,360
pretty cheap right now, like and
Adams or Ridley. 

978
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:38,880
I've drafted Adam Phelan. 
Adam Phelan goes really late and

979
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,240
was still very productive that 
he he's still under contract 

980
00:49:41,240 --> 00:49:43,080
next year. 
I know we like Jalen Coker, but 

981
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,320
he was still starting and 
producing. 

982
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,480
Do we think, do we think ertz is
going to retire? 

983
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:49,560
By the way, while we're while 
we're talking about all the guys

984
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:52,440
'cause if ertz doesn't retire, 
he's just as good of a pick and 

985
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:54,720
this year's big board as he was 
in last year's big board. 

986
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,080
Yeah, it's true. 
But he is a free agent, but it's

987
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,360
like he obviously he would just 
pre sign with them. 

988
00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:01,560
Yeah. 
He would just resign. 

989
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:07,320
This range gives me the the 
shakes like maybe, maybe Reid at

990
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,920
81 is interesting. 
It's still, you know, shooting 

991
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,600
for potential. 
Davis, you said running backs in

992
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,800
this range or like 5-6 that I 
want to. 

993
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:18,040
Say that I love to unjoy one of 
the. 

994
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,360
I'm pounding. 
I'm pounding that button. 

995
00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,400
It feels early like when you 
look back at your board, like I 

996
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,160
took Jennings in the sixth round
of a draft and then I look back 

997
00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:27,520
at the board, I was like, what 
the hell? 

998
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,080
But when you're in it, it feels 
fine. 

999
00:50:30,440 --> 00:50:32,680
You're like given, given the 
other available options, you're 

1000
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,520
like, oh, Jennings is actually 
pretty solid pick right now. 

1001
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:38,480
But then you look back, you're 
like, oh, we're taking John 

1002
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,720
Jennings in the sixth. 
OK, It definitely feels rich, 

1003
00:50:41,720 --> 00:50:45,720
but he was really good last year
that Iuke's got a multi ligament

1004
00:50:45,720 --> 00:50:48,520
knee tear. 
You're assuming no devo. 

1005
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,520
Devo's probably gone, yeah. 
So it's like him and Piersall 

1006
00:50:52,520 --> 00:50:57,160
and the naive comes back down 
the stretch, I think. 

1007
00:50:57,320 --> 00:50:58,320
I think he'll be pretty 
productive. 

1008
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:01,040
Obviously Kittle there too, but 
yeah. 

1009
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:04,160
What's What's the early word on 
Christian McCaffrey in these? 

1010
00:51:05,560 --> 00:51:09,880
He's been going pretty high, 
yeah, Round 2. 

1011
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,040
I. 
Think right now the 1/2. 

1012
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,400
Turn 1-2. 
Turn, Yeah. 

1013
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:18,440
I I mean I have Gene T ranked 
straight up ahead of them. 

1014
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,400
You can scoop you if you want a 
bag of Gene T right now, you can

1015
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,280
get a bag We we have him 
probably below where you have 

1016
00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:29,160
him Davis, but. 
No, I've, I am working on my 

1017
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:30,760
rankings right now. 
I meant to have them done this 

1018
00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:32,720
morning and got caught up doing 
busy work. 

1019
00:51:32,720 --> 00:51:36,680
But I, I'm, I probably am going 
to have him one spot ahead of 

1020
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,600
where you guys have him. 
I think you guys have him 13. 

1021
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:39,800
I think I'm going to have him 
12. 

1022
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:44,280
Yeah, he's down to 14 with the 
with ADP, but yeah, if you, I 

1023
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:47,400
mean you can sit in the back of 
the 2nd and get Gene T all day. 

1024
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:53,120
Can we just have round one NFL 
draft, round one running back 

1025
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,160
hit because he's great and can 
we just sort of keep it simple 

1026
00:51:57,160 --> 00:52:01,520
this year and not have the the 
Bijan silliness and Bruce Hall 

1027
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,160
off the injury? 
I think he was a second round 

1028
00:52:03,160 --> 00:52:06,440
pick anyway, but you know, like 
Naji, but he's actually not good

1029
00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:09,320
at ETN who's hurt. 
Just I kind of wanted to just 

1030
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,920
maybe want this year be. 
Normal. 

1031
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:16,000
That's actually a good point. 
Who is the last first round NFL 

1032
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,600
draft rookie running back? 
Well, Gibbs was in like a 

1033
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,240
timeshare. 
I know what he hit like. 

1034
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:25,480
Like who just came in and just 
like immediately 300 touches, 20

1035
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:26,840
touchdowns just. 
Like I see I. 

1036
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,120
See Zeke maybe? 
Was was Zeke the last? 

1037
00:52:31,120 --> 00:52:33,920
Like true? 
Just mega. 

1038
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,680
You got everything you wanted 
here. 

1039
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,760
Let's run a Let's run a Pro 
Football Reference filter. 

1040
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,960
Yeah, 'cause you're right, it 
was an end of the season smash. 

1041
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:42,680
Yeah. 
Barkley. 

1042
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:43,840
Oh yeah? 
Well, Barkley. 

1043
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,480
Barkley had a legendary season 
as a rookie. 

1044
00:52:45,480 --> 00:52:49,760
It was unreal. 
Still, that's seven years ago. 

1045
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:53,600
That's 20. 18 That's 2018. 
Single season descending fantasy

1046
00:52:53,600 --> 00:53:01,480
points, PPR 2024 to the 2015 
running back, just first round 

1047
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:06,720
picks and let's just see who 
like Mega Smashed because 

1048
00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:08,840
there's got to be, there's got 
to be someone worth forgetting, 

1049
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:10,640
right? 
I think so. 

1050
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,160
CEH. 
CEH. 

1051
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,400
CEH honestly honestly did did 
kind of smash as a rookie. 

1052
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:20,280
That first game. 
It's not like this though. 

1053
00:53:20,280 --> 00:53:21,680
He didn't he. 
Didn't score enough. 

1054
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:23,240
He he didn't score enough 
touchdowns. 

1055
00:53:23,240 --> 00:53:25,200
He didn't score, he didn't score
enough touchdowns. 

1056
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:29,640
I'm trouble. 
I'm I'm. 

1057
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,000
It's taking me forever to find 
the draft filter. 

1058
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:35,640
People are saying Lenny Lenny 
did get a bunch of work. 

1059
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:41,120
And that's Mccaffrey's draft. 
Yeah, but man, he stunk. 

1060
00:53:41,600 --> 00:53:46,200
OK, this is 2015 to 2024, just I
didn't add the draft filter, but

1061
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:52,680
Barkley 385 points, Zeke Naji 
300 points. 

1062
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,880
Jonathan Taylor. 
I don't know if Jonathan and 

1063
00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:57,200
Jonathan Taylor. 
Was the 3rd year. 

1064
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,080
Pick isn't the Naji year is 
Roethlisberger throwing in the 

1065
00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:04,000
15 passes in the one game Right.
Just like there was some insane 

1066
00:54:04,600 --> 00:54:10,240
production there that way. 
So basically, basically the 

1067
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:12,600
answer is no one. 
It's it was Barkley and it was 

1068
00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,160
Elliot. 
But those are the last like no 

1069
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,200
complications. 
No, you don't have to make any 

1070
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,720
excuses. 
They just they, they got picked.

1071
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:20,400
And they? 
Crushed. 

1072
00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:23,160
Well, you've got the guy for 
this in GT. 

1073
00:54:23,160 --> 00:54:26,360
Then you've got the lack of 
quarterback talent. 

1074
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,760
We think that will clog the 
first round of the draft. 

1075
00:54:28,760 --> 00:54:30,160
I mean, maybe this is year 
running back. 

1076
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,200
Everybody loves their running 
back class. 

1077
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:37,440
This is the year for it. 
I I think Caleb Johnson might go

1078
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,320
in the first round. 
Really. 

1079
00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,440
There's a lot of lot of drum 
beat, like if you read like the 

1080
00:54:43,480 --> 00:54:46,480
just the Scout stuff, they all 
really like him. 

1081
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:51,520
I think it's such a, I watched 
the NFL this year, I watched 

1082
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:55,000
linebackers who weigh 230 lbs. 
I want a running back who weighs

1083
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,640
230 lbs who's faster than all 
these guys type thing. 

1084
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,280
You know, I, I, I, and I've 
already said this, I'm on the 

1085
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,720
record. 
I am not with the nerds on this.

1086
00:55:04,720 --> 00:55:12,040
I whatever team takes Genti. 
I think it's good, not good. 

1087
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,120
There are other there are other 
things you could do that would 

1088
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:17,280
make your team better, but 
you're going to put him on the 

1089
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,240
team and he's going to get the 
ball a ton. 

1090
00:55:20,120 --> 00:55:22,000
You have good plays. 
Your your offense is. 

1091
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,720
Your offense is going to be good
when Gente's on the field. 

1092
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:27,520
I think Brian shot. 
He'll help your. 

1093
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:31,120
Offense but. 
I think it's that that capital, 

1094
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:34,760
the chance of hitting on an 
elite left tackle or you know, 

1095
00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:39,640
one of the very deep edge class.
I think your money, I think your

1096
00:55:39,640 --> 00:55:42,640
your capital's better spent on 
that than than a player who 

1097
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:45,400
will, I think immediately 
contribute and be really good in

1098
00:55:45,400 --> 00:55:48,640
Gente. 
But it's just like the impact of

1099
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:51,680
the position quickly, quickly. 
I wanted to ask on. 

1100
00:55:51,680 --> 00:55:58,160
Quarterbacks in the big board. 
So I know FFPC we had as of mid 

1101
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:03,280
last week anyway, Allen was 
going early 2nd and Lamar 

1102
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,360
Jackson was quarterback to late 
3rd, which I really don't 

1103
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:11,000
understand that gap myself. 
Jackson's ahead now, right? 

1104
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:14,200
Is he? 
Jackson's Jackson's Jackson's 

1105
00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:18,920
early ADP was like. 
Oh, no, I'm wrong. 

1106
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,120
No, OK. 
Alan is going 19th and Jackson 

1107
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:28,840
is going 25th. 
These, I think I'm out on that. 

1108
00:56:30,080 --> 00:56:32,200
Let me tell you. 
These young men, right? 

1109
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:37,960
Here, Justin Fields, Jalen 
Melro, Jackson Dart draft them 

1110
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:43,720
for like the next nine to 10 
days because particularly Dart 

1111
00:56:43,720 --> 00:56:47,960
and Fields are going to be I 
don't even know, like you're not

1112
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,280
going to be able to get fields. 
I agree with I, I don't. 

1113
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,640
Miller Owen Dart Like when? 
When How many games did you get 

1114
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,040
out of? 
Them this year couple 3. 

1115
00:56:56,040 --> 00:57:00,120
When Dane Bruegler puts out his.
Next mock that has Jackson Dart 

1116
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:02,160
going at 6th overall to the 
Raiders. 

1117
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,680
This, this is over. 
You're not going to be able to 

1118
00:57:04,680 --> 00:57:07,440
get quarterback 30. 
Like, remember JJ McCarthy? 

1119
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,280
That I'm not hearing any kind of
buzz there. 

1120
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:13,640
No, dude, it's coming. 
It's coming. 

1121
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:16,120
You're you're, you're not 
hearing the you're not hearing 

1122
00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:17,560
the rumblings because the 
rumblings. 

1123
00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:20,600
I'm really not I, I. 
Know that there I know that 

1124
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:25,120
Jackson Dart has has his fans, 
but I haven't heard I've heard 

1125
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:28,080
you know he's going to be making
a strong statement that he's 

1126
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:32,360
quarterback 3 in this class. 
I've not really heard anything 

1127
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:35,960
that like he might go top 10. 
I got I. 

1128
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:37,560
Got to make sure the rumble I. 
I. 

1129
00:57:37,560 --> 00:57:41,160
Differentiate the rumblings I 
hear from you and from whoever 

1130
00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:43,360
might be, you know, scouting 
player Senior Bowl week. 

1131
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:45,240
I know I've heard you talk about
him. 

1132
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,880
And that's what would be my 
version of the the rumblings in 

1133
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,280
this case would be from you. 
Yeah. 

1134
00:57:50,320 --> 00:57:51,800
I mean, I'm I'm. 
I'm literally. 

1135
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,440
Just reading tweets from people 
at, you know, the Senior Bowl 

1136
00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,600
and shit. 
But I, I just, I have AI think 

1137
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:03,360
also I've just done this so long
that I know guys like Jackson 

1138
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:07,240
Dart start out as Oh yeah, you 
know, maybe you maybe we take 

1139
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,600
him as round 3. 
As a flyer. 

1140
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:13,440
And then all of a sudden, Bonex 
was the 12th overall pick in the

1141
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,200
NFL draft. 
You know, it's like that is 

1142
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,480
that's always. 
How it starts? 

1143
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,760
Yeah, I, I, yeah, honestly, I 
think. 

1144
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:22,000
Bonex is a much, much stronger 
prospect than much Jackson Dart 

1145
00:58:22,200 --> 00:58:23,720
much. 
I think Bonex is a stronger 

1146
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:25,680
prospect than any quarterback in
this class. 

1147
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,720
I think he's a better prospect 
than than Cam Ward. 

1148
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,840
It's it's not a good quarterback
class. 

1149
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:33,080
I could, I could give that to 
you, Cam Cam. 

1150
00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:36,160
Ward is is. 
Way more toolsy, you know, 

1151
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,040
theoretical upside on Cam Ward 
way higher, but but Nick's as we

1152
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:42,800
saw it this year is like a very 
capable quarterback. 

1153
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:47,200
I think from like a a floor 
perspective, you know, he's he 

1154
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,080
was he's much safer. 
We came to like his experience. 

1155
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:53,640
Yeah, and he and he scrambles, 
right He. 

1156
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,520
Actually, he adds, he adds with 
with with his legs, which is 

1157
00:58:56,520 --> 00:59:00,200
good for real life. 
And for us, what I'm seeing like

1158
00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:04,800
with Bruegler's mock that came 
out last week, what we saw was 

1159
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:06,400
actually the quarterbacks 
falling. 

1160
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:12,520
We saw Cam Ward, I believe, went
third in that mock with the 

1161
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,560
Titans passing and then and then
the Browns passing. 

1162
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:21,600
And then Chador is like there 
was, you know, a month or two 

1163
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:24,200
ago, I thought there's at least 
a conversation of who the number

1164
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:25,920
one pick was between the 
quarterbacks. 

1165
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,080
And seems like Shadour's kind of
fallen to where it's like Ward's

1166
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:32,480
the top guy, but do you take him
#1? 

1167
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:36,040
If Shadour's available at like 6
to the Raiders or something, 

1168
00:59:36,040 --> 00:59:39,160
that obviously makes it so much 
harder for a guy like Milro or 

1169
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,120
Dart. 
And it probably would be Dart to

1170
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:45,240
jump up, you know, into the 
midfirst or something like it, 

1171
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:49,200
just like the the tea leaf 
seemed to be going the other 

1172
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:50,840
way. 
And we have seen this, We've 

1173
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:54,960
seen that the it's not common, 
but in the Kenny Pickett class, 

1174
00:59:55,920 --> 00:59:58,320
Malik Willis was supposed to be 
in the first round conversation.

1175
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,200
He goes third round. 
You know, there's there are 

1176
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:04,120
times that the NF LS just like 
no Levis. 

1177
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:06,000
These these dudes aren't it. 
Levis. 

1178
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,200
Yeah, Levis. 
Levis. 

1179
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,640
Yeah, yeah. 
I don't think that's going to 

1180
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:12,360
happen to like Chadur or 
anything, but I. 

1181
01:00:13,840 --> 01:00:15,880
I think Milro. 
And Dart. 

1182
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,720
Would be would do well to get 
into the first round at all. 

1183
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,440
Like if they, if they were like 
pick 25, I think that's like a 

1184
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:24,280
good outcome. 
Oh, if Milro, if milro. 

1185
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:29,200
Goes in round one and you're 
light on him in this like load 

1186
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:32,800
up for next year, man, you, you 
lost because I don't know this 

1187
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,280
dude. 
This dude is going to run. 

1188
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,120
Well, if he's a first round 
pick, where where would? 

1189
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:39,960
Spend a first round pick on him 
and not play him. 

1190
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:46,800
You told, you told. 
Me in the the leg. 

1191
01:00:46,800 --> 01:00:49,160
Up rankings chat, you were like,
I started going through who 

1192
01:00:49,160 --> 01:00:51,200
needs a quarterback and there 
are some. 

1193
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:51,760
It is. 
It is. 

1194
01:00:53,120 --> 01:00:54,240
Like, yeah, I mean, I guess you 
could. 

1195
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:55,840
Talk about one of these teams 
trading. 

1196
01:00:55,840 --> 01:00:58,800
Back into the end of the first, 
like the Raiders trade, back in 

1197
01:00:58,800 --> 01:01:01,040
the end of the first, the 
Giants, and then, yeah, then, 

1198
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,320
then certainly he'd start. 
But I think you could also look 

1199
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:07,040
at a guy like Melro, who's kind 
of the developmental type of 

1200
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,680
player, and you could be like, 
we're drafting for the future 

1201
01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:14,640
with this guy. 
San Francisco would be fun. 

1202
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:20,240
San Francisco would be fun. 
I mean, just let me make it 

1203
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,080
clear. 
I don't think I guess would be 

1204
01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:23,280
good. 
I don't. 

1205
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:26,120
Think Millro is very good. 
Quote UN quote. 

1206
01:01:27,080 --> 01:01:32,240
But that's the sort of thing 
that just is 60 IQ fantasy 

1207
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:33,760
football stuff. 
Because it doesn't matter. 

1208
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,680
Because. 
If Millro plays this guy just 

1209
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,280
like runs like Seattle would be 
another Oh my God. 

1210
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:41,200
Yeah, that's good. 
Yeah. 

1211
01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:42,720
But I. 
Don't think I think Millro 

1212
01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,040
could. 
Sit for like his whole career, 

1213
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,760
15 games. 
Yeah, his whole career. 

1214
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,040
That's that's the problem is 
that this team could sit for his

1215
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,320
whole career. 
This could be like Kenden Hooker

1216
01:01:53,320 --> 01:01:56,200
or something, you know, Jets and
round two, Jets and round two it

1217
01:01:56,200 --> 01:01:57,120
could be. 
It could be. 

1218
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,360
It could be a lot. 
It could be a. 

1219
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:01,520
Lot like Kenden Hooker, 
obviously Hooker came in injured

1220
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,360
I think. 
I think it's more of a dynasty 

1221
01:02:03,360 --> 01:02:05,560
win than a. 
Basketball win if he if he goes 

1222
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:07,880
to Seattle. 
Not that it couldn't be a win, 

1223
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,720
but like you're look, I mean, I 
I had a big bag of Drake May 

1224
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,080
last year. 
May got on the field week 6 and 

1225
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:18,080
he ran a bunch, right. 
I think he, he doesn't, he 

1226
01:02:18,080 --> 01:02:21,720
doesn't run like like. 
Millro runs though like Millro 

1227
01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:24,600
he out rushed Jaden. 
Daniels in scramble yards. 

1228
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:27,240
The dude I know, but Millro? 
Millro. 

1229
01:02:27,240 --> 01:02:31,000
Will have like this. 
He's going to, I don't know, 

1230
01:02:31,000 --> 01:02:34,400
he's going to have 4 design 
rushes a game maybe, maybe more,

1231
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,240
sure, but. 
In how many fewer games, you 

1232
01:02:38,240 --> 01:02:40,560
know, like, and, and the point 
there with May is like those 

1233
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,760
games, those games hurt, you 
know, that he didn't play. 

1234
01:02:43,960 --> 01:02:48,960
And if he never was able to, you
know, achieve like going nuclear

1235
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,440
'cause he had such a horrible 
supporting cast. 

1236
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,320
You know, if Miller was in 
Seattle or something like that, 

1237
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:00,760
you'd be like, OK, he could 
probably probably get there, but

1238
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:03,960
I don't know. 
It's it's tough right now as we 

1239
01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:07,680
think about like the the range, 
this could be a third round 

1240
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:09,200
pick. 
He could just be a straight back

1241
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:13,080
up and like kind of the what do 
you win when you win? 

1242
01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,440
Like I I think in a number of 
good outcomes. 

1243
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:21,520
He's still looking at like a 
projected games played of 5-6. 

1244
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:24,280
Yeah, well, I know it's 
basketball. 

1245
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:26,280
You know you want to lean. 
Into the end of the season 

1246
01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:30,560
always as I've learned from you 
guys, but there are 1/4 of the 

1247
01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:32,440
league needs a starting 
quarterback. 

1248
01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:36,160
No clear answer and even even 
fields being maybe the favorite 

1249
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,320
in Pittsburgh is kind of nuts. 
But then like what are the 

1250
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:41,040
alternatives? 
See cousin see the the veterans,

1251
01:03:41,040 --> 01:03:43,040
their cousins, Russell Wilson 
Rogers. 

1252
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,040
I think I would guess that two 
of them are starting week 1 

1253
01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:49,680
because they're just are not 
that many other options. 

1254
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:53,440
So are you guys. 
I think it was Jared Goff with. 

1255
01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,320
Amanrah And then I got boxed out
of quarterback. 

1256
01:03:56,520 --> 01:03:58,680
People are drafting a bunch of 
quarterbacks and they're 

1257
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:00,000
snapping them up. 
It's kind of weird in there 

1258
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:00,960
right now. 
Well, you can. 

1259
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:04,040
You can take 5 and some people. 
Are just like auto drafting like

1260
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:06,280
yeah, it's it's it's chaos in 
there right now. 

1261
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:07,640
You got to, got to. 
Watch out for that. 

1262
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:13,040
The, the thing about, about 
Fields, so I took, I took Jared 

1263
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,640
Goffa, Dominora and then I took 
Fields and McCarthy and I didn't

1264
01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,240
really have to keep them 
stacked. 

1265
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,560
And then it took Naylor or 
something at the end, but I cuz 

1266
01:04:21,560 --> 01:04:23,160
I got boxed out of all the 
quarterbacks went. 

1267
01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:26,960
But there I was like, that's, 
that's a useful case for Fields.

1268
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:30,040
You know, where I'm like, 
there's, there's some upside 

1269
01:04:30,040 --> 01:04:31,240
here. 
Maybe you don't get all the 

1270
01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:34,520
games, but I think he starts it 
all probably starts in the 

1271
01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,680
beginning of the year and kind 
of maybe bridging to McCarthy if

1272
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,520
Donald's back. 
Maybe I just have McCarthy all 

1273
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,680
year, but he starts slow. 
I I'm more interested in Fields 

1274
01:04:43,680 --> 01:04:47,960
than the rookies because I think
fields has a pretty clean path 

1275
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:50,400
to just being a starter this 
year for the Steelers. 

1276
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,160
And honestly, maybe even even if
not for the Steelers, like he 

1277
01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:58,320
could go like to the Giants or 
something. 

1278
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:01,280
Like there's there's spots where
you go or to The Jets, like 

1279
01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:04,120
there's, there's openings, 
there's straight up openings. 

1280
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:06,360
There's a lot of openings 
starting with the team. 

1281
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:07,800
He's on like you said, my 
friend. 

1282
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:08,720
Raiders is another one. 
Yeah. 

1283
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,120
Andrew Filippone. 
Predicted last week that. 

1284
01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,720
He he, at least as of now, like 
Fields, would be his bet to 

1285
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:18,080
start week one for the Steelers.
Are you guys most likely to me? 

1286
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,760
Yeah. 
Are you coming up to? 

1287
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,120
Do another show like right after
this, yes, Yeah, we're going to 

1288
01:05:24,120 --> 01:05:26,680
do our. 
Last week we did running backs. 

1289
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:29,440
This week we are going to do 
wide receivers. 

1290
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,400
We're going to go through all 
the rookie wide receivers, kind 

1291
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:36,360
of what we would do with them in
dynasty, big board, all all that

1292
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,080
stuff. 
All right, I've got a Bills. 

1293
01:05:39,320 --> 01:05:43,360
Post mortem to host on WGR. 
Got to gear up for that. 

1294
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,720
Anyway, got it, got it, got. 
To tear them. 

1295
01:05:47,720 --> 01:05:50,240
Down. 
Blow it up. 

1296
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:52,120
Blow it up, Mike. 
I don't know what we're doing 

1297
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:53,160
here. 
Is Sean Guy? 

1298
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,520
'S a clown. 
We're never going to go anywhere

1299
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,320
until we get rid of this. 
Justin, what are we doing? 

1300
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,480
We just, we should have day 
ball. 

1301
01:05:59,560 --> 01:06:01,920
Firemen and trade for. 
Day ball trade a second round 

1302
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,360
pick. 
We're going to spend it on a 

1303
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,640
dumb ass Ken Coleman anyway. 
Oh, I can promise you that call.

1304
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:09,240
Today, I can promise you that 
one. 

1305
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:10,640
That's right. 
Yeah. 

1306
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:12,560
What do you want to finish? 
You want to lose in the playoffs

1307
01:06:12,560 --> 01:06:14,720
every year, all time. 
Is that what this is working for

1308
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:16,080
you? 
You don't want to make these 

1309
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:16,800
changes. 
OK. 

1310
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:18,080
Good to know. 
Yeah. 

1311
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:20,120
You know, I got to. 
I got to get in shape. 

1312
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,520
Thank you, boys. 
Patton Davis. 

1313
01:06:23,800 --> 01:06:26,320
I'm Mike Shope, ADP chasing. 
We'll talk to you again next 

1314
01:06:26,320 --> 01:06:26,720
Monday.
