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Hi there. 
Good morning from Grand Island, 

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NY on the Upper Niagara. 
Cool weekend, but we're into the

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80s today. 
Record stuff. 

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I'm Mike Schoe. 
We have a party boat to discuss.

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What's better than a party boat?
The market went down on Stefan 

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Diggs, so to speak. 
Although just seven months off 

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in ACL tear, he was on the field
running routes yesterday. 

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There we go, there they are. 
Is he a value now 30? 

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Bit. 
So hang on. 

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Almost done, Rogers Fallers, who
are the earliest drafted players

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our heroes will never pick. 
And another round of Last Call. 

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We'll see if Pat's Patriots hype
extends as far as Efton Chisholm

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the Third. 
Sounds like a guy for a Davis 

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podcast with our heroes. 
Pat Kurain, Davis Maddock, 

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Fantasy football's most eligible
bachelor, Jacob Sanderson. 

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This is ADP chasing Tuesday, 
June 3rd, 2025. 

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In Underdog Best Ball, ADP is 
set by two separate yet equally 

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important groups. 
Streamers that set the market 

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and the slappies that chase it. 
These are their stories. 

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Were any lies told? 
I I'm actually the reason that 

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FT in Chisholm is even in the 
player pool on underdog. 

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They released the player pool 
for the big board and one of the

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guys in my discord checked it. 
Compared to the PFF big board, 

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Aftonchism was the only name 
missing. 

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So if you have drafted 
Aftonchism, you have the the 

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Davis Matic discord to to thank 
for that. 

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You to blame? 
You have made a. 

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Blame what? 
What a name? 

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I mean Aftonchism. 
Davis is the LAN larisons of 

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whom I mean what a name. 
This is like peak name here 

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Seasons. 
Afton Aftonchism is the LAN 

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larrison of Aaron Mallette's. 
I don't even know who Aaron 

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Mallette is. 
That's. 

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Before that, I think that works.
That's that's before you. 

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What's it for, Pat? 
Is that a hockey player? 

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Let's ask Pat. 
No, no, Aaron. 

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Mallette was a was a patriot, 
right? 

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No, he was a Raven A. 
Raven. 

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He went to Elon. 
He went to Elon University, 

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which I believe is the same 
college that Mister Josh Norris 

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attended. 
Think they're gonna change their

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name these days or? 
Davis is cooking right now. 

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We're. 
Up and running North Carolina, 

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Elon, Jacob. 
Hopefully no offense taken at 

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the eligible bachelor. 
No, I'm, I am, I am eligible so.

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So if he knows someone. 
I don't have. 

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There's no Fender on me. 
You can. 

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You can no no. 
No, no, no, no. 

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If you guys know anybody. 
Yeah, I don't, I got to say I 

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don't think of the chat of ADP 
chasing is where. 

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I have fun. 
Like imagine if you met your 

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girl through the. 
Channel of. 

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ADP chasing. 
That would require there to be a

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girl who listens to ADP chasing.
Yeah, it's. 

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Like. 
I mean Nick and Steph. 

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I'd love to. 
I'd love to see the the. 

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Entirety of our female listening
chase. 

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Right, You want a Venn diagram 
here. 

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Davis, what do you want on this?
Well, no. 

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Is there any because you know, 
in YouTube analytics, you can go

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down and you can get your 
breakdown of like where your 

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audience is from, how old are 
they? 

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What gender are do they report 
as on their YouTube stuff? 

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And I'd like to meet the first 
fantasy football content creator

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who doesn't have 99.9% male. 
I'd like to 'cause I know mine 

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is 99.9. 
Percent. 

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I was about to ask how much time
you're spending on the gender 

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tab 'cause I don't know there's 
that. 

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Much I know, I know the school 
cast is 99.9, I know the tape 

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cast is 99.9, I know end game 
syndicates 99.9. 

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I'm going to guess ship chasing 
99.9. 

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So I'd like, like, do do you 
think the footballers are so big

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that they're like 98.2%, you 
know that they have like 1%? 

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What do you think is the most 
woman friendly fantasy football 

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show? 
It's got to be the Ballers, 

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right? 
They're funny, they're super 

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popular. 
What about the women? 

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I mean fantasy and frames. 
I'm on with Stacey this week. 

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Maybe it's the women I don't 
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I know I know what WGR like all 
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men, but we've been number one 
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almost every book and in the 
men. 

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But when we get adults, I get 
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have some much higher than 1% 
listenership. 

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That's women. 
And when that goes up, I'm sort 

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of like, all right now. 
Now I'm, this is a good 

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evidence, good evidence for me 
that I'm doing the show I want 

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to be doing. 
Because, you know, yesterday we 

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talked about a nudist colony. 
And I'm sorry, this isn't about 

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football yet. 
So, you know, you, you try to 

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it's a it's a different. 
So Pat's in, Pat's in on. 

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This. 
But where was Stefan Diggs? 

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That's so it might it might be, 
you know, we gotta. 

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Yeah, Ron. 
Ron said his lifetime is 98.4% 

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so. 
That's pretty good, Ron. 

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Shout out, shout out. 
Yeah, honestly. 

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Let's go. 
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Yeah. 
I'm I'm. 

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Well wait sorry, is is that 
Ron's YouTube stats or is he 

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just saying that his life is 90%
male? 

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That's important distinction 
that Ron Ron's existence is just

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98.4% greasy New Jersey men 
outside of MetLife in real life.

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That's deeply sad, but on 
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And the other 1.6% is Mother 
Stewart. 

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You know Jacob is going to meet 
a woman that doesn't watch every

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week. 
I haven't met a single one yet 

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in my entire. 
Life going to meet a woman who 

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isn't in the discord, right? 
Thank God, but is familiar with 

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his work is familiar with his 
work. 

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I think I've seen you. 
So I think it'll that's, that's 

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my prediction. 
If I, if I went on a date with a

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woman and she was like, yeah, I 
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about thinking, I'm immediately 
buying a ring. 

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Yeah, that. 
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was really bad because my mic 
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so thanks for. 
That it sounds fine. 

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I thought that's in New York 
today, Jacob, doing good work by

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our first slide. 
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counsel on the if you're, if 
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the the boat or you're actually 
trying to get his attention, you

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can tell them what not to do in 
the next 5 seconds, Jacob. 

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Has a drink, I think it looks 
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That's from a video that's not 
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So someone went to my Instagram,
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paused it and then like cut me 
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Amazing. 
That's that's that's Zach. 

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You know that's Zach. 
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But that was that person. 
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One goes, no one puts in more 
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So good. 
Did you notice us in the 

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portholes here? 
The faces, yes, they're so good.

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Yeah. 
What's happening here? 

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We are not allowed at the time. 
We're not allowed. 

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On deck. 
We're not. 

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We're in. 
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I've been retained, has counsel 
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I can't speculate at all what 
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You know, I disappointed. 
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and my client is is until 
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Guilty. 
I'm in the porthole. 

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I can I'm I'm down below. 
I'm I'm talking to Davis and 

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and. 
It's my, my, my, YouTube chat 

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told me. 
It's like a new street drug. 

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Called. 2C2 CB. 
Which apparently has 

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methamphetamines in it. 
I oh, that's interesting. 

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I have a friend back in 
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California sober, which is very 
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It's it's it's no alcohol, but a
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along with other things. 
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and he instantly said that's two
CB, which is apparently not even

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illegal because it's experiment.
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they're able to change the 
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like they can't a lot because 
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Something. 
It's beta. 

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Yeah, it's in beta, but yeah, 
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It's like the effects apparently
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Molly, kind of. 
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and LSD. 
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So it's like a somewhat 
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euphoric. 
Is this my? 

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Experience in the Vancouver 
house scene is, is correct. 

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Anything that's popular in 
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here in like 3 to five years. 
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are already doing it and and 
it'll make its way to to my 

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shores in in two to three years.
Is this completely dead, 

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Irrelevant to the upcoming NFL 
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No, no. 
No, this this still matters. 

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Yeah, it's it's relevant because
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Like, I mean, famously on this 
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behavior for my wide receivers, 
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I want, I want, I want Xavier 
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saying throw me the damn ball to
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But what is interesting is we've
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between Stephane Diggs and 
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So that can go, that can go a 
lot of directions, right? 

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I mean, I don't think he's going
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Like, I think that risk is 
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No, he's. 
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What is what is the risk? 
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Like this is a signal that he 
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and has no intention of taking 
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No, I think it's more that you 
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is like super locked in and like
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with Drake May like being a good
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And I think it shows. 
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he's just gonna show up and want
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That that's that's I, I guess. 
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shows that there's risk that he 
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I mean this this boat thing was 
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OTAs or was around, he didn't 
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So one week ago, yeah. 
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Don't know I I think it's. 
I don't think Brabel was very 

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happy, no. 
He's on the field yesterday. 

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Man, not happy that it got 
caught on like this is always 

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what I assume Stefan Diggs is up
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It's just that someone forgot to
put their phone in a bowl. 

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So no, I I disagree, but we've 
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Stefan Diggs. 
I think it's the opposite. 

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I think it's like the cameras 
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This is for my ego. 
This is like all the different 

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cryptic ways he described his 
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And he would never say like he 
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I think he's a con man. 
I think he's somebody that I 

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have the day off. 
I'm here, I'm at 20 plus 

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$1,000,000 a year. 
I'm going on this boat. 

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I mean, look at the boat, look 
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Maybe you'd go too if you didn't
have to go to work. 

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Everybody else is at work 
yesterday, seven months off an 

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ACL tear. 
He's on the field running routes

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and that's that gives him he 
does enough of that gives him 

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the the you know, the 
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like, what do you mean I'm doing
the work? 

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I'm not I'm not even supposed to
be here yet. 

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I'm off. 
I'm not even supposed to be 

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healthy yet. 
And look at I mean, the clip is 

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the clips are pretty good. 
If you didn't have the boat, you

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didn't care about the boat. 
You'd love what you saw 

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yesterday and if you got him in 
the seventh round you'd be 

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elated, I think. 
I'll say I've drafted Stephane 

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Diggs more times in the final in
the last three days than I had 

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before that point because I 
moved him. 

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I actually think based on moving
other guys down, Diggs is 

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relatively higher in my rankings
actually because I, I moved some

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other guys around. 
But mostly I think this is 

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likely a nothing burger. 
And I mean, you guys know me. 

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I, I just kind of just kind of a
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of trying to get it in good 
price wise where I can. 

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Like I got him in, I got him. 
I was doing it one this morning 

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got him in the eighth round, 
like 8th, 8th round digs. 

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Sure, why not? 
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with digs, I'm kind of happy 
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like to have more. 
I'd like to have a wider ring on

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my Drake May Jacquard tree. 
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any digs previously because not 
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because he is 32 and in decline 
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We were drafting him in like the
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for some reason. 
So all of my May stacks are 

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basically with like Kyle 
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Trayvion, Henderson Trayvion. 
And I get started. 

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Yeah. 
So it would have been nice to or

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will be nice to hopefully mix 
some digs into that. 

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I I think I'd need him in like, 
I want him to be in the same 

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range as like Michael Pittman 
and the rookies to be like 

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particularly excited about. 
Well, that that's not, that's 

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not going to happen. 
That's kind of where he was 

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going though in the big board. 
I I thought his rise up into the

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7th was a little surprising like
given, you know, he's coming off

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an ACL tear and he's pretty old 
like, but he. 

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But he landed the. 
Recovery is going pretty well, 

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there's a ton of targets 
available. 

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He landed in a place where he 
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which was why he was not. 
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board because there was a chance
that he went the way of Amari 

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Cooper and DeAndre Hopkins and 
and we got the clear answer that

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the market viewed him 
differently than those guys. 

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The market view him differently 
or did the New England Patriots 

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view him differently? 
Well, we all like best offer. 

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For Stephane Diggs and free 
agency. 

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We all like May if we were we 
were all yeah, if if we were, if

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we were not May boys like if we 
were like, oh man, you know, I 

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mean, whatever, he's fine. 
We'd be like, all right, we're 

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happy to not take him, but 
because. 

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We believe. 
In May, it's different. 

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I mean, let me read out my New 
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Hunter Henry 26% break May 24%, 
Kyle Williams 22%, and then 

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Trayvon Anderson 18%. 
And then you scroll all the way 

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down Stefan Diggs 1%. 
So like, you don't need to 

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include Stefan Diggs in your 
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to. 
Maybe he's also going around 100

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after he signed with the 
Patriots. 

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It wasn't he didn't have this 
like big ride. 

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It took a while for the Patriots
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remembering right. 
Yeah, I, I, I have two, two 

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things to add. 
One, I'm not sure we've seen 

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decline yet from Diggs. 
I don't, I think he might be 31 

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and isn't he sort of the body 
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you would push off that 
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bigger, You know, like it's the 
bigger guys who die quicker 

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maybe at receiver so. 
Well, we. 

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We. 
Have If you die, you die. 

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We we have seen him drop off 
because take. 

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Al Shanahan. 
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basically his final year in 
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Buffalo. 
Those were the only two or he 

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had 2.49 yards per outrun in 
those two seasons, 1.89 his last

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year in Buffalo, 1.84 last year.
So we we've definitely seen digs

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go from clearly one of the five 
or eight best wide receivers in 

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the NFL to like, you know what I
would I would kind of comp him 

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to I would comp him right now. 
So like post black marble Larry 

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Fitzgerald, where Fitzgerald 
actually came back around. 

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Remember, Fitzgerald had his 
black marble season in 2012, but

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then like reinvented himself and
had 109 reception season in 

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2015. 
I, I would actually really 

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compare it to that where it's 
like you could tell me, you 

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could tell me anything from he 
gets out targeted by Kyle 

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Williams like easily or he has 
100 receptions. 

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Like I I would actually believe 
either thing. 

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Davis is totally right. 
First of all, apologize in the 

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age he he turns 32 in season but
not until late in the season. 

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So he he will be 31 for most of 
the season. 

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But if if you believe that week 
17 is all that matters, he will 

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be 32 in week 17. 
Yes. 

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The the target earning has not 
gone away. 

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Like he still earned a ton of 
targets in 2023. 

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In Buffalo, less so against 
better target competition, but 

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was still a really good target 
earner last year in Houston. 

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But the downfield stuff is is 
pretty toast. 

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Like he he used to be a true 
three level receiver at his 

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peak. 
Yeah, that, that is over, I 

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think. 
And in in Minnesota and like, 

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you know, his 2022 bills to 2023
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like, even though his target per
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his efficiency crash. 
And that was because he just was

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not creating anything down the 
field. 

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And then we saw last year the 
Texans kind of, I think 

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correctly scouted him and used 
him in a very low A dot 

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possession chain moving role, 
which is I think the best way to

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use it right now. 
To Davis's point, like that's 

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kind of how Larry Fitzgerald was
recreated under Bruce Arians was

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like, OK, we're going to use who
was it? 

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It was, it was Michael Floyd and
they had another guy, John 

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Smokey Brown. 
Smokey Brown and Michael Floyd 

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were kind of the outside wide 
receivers and and Larry 

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Fitzgerald was just a, a chain 
mover at that point. 

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I think that's what what Diggs 
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He he might have 90 catches, but
those 90 catches are probably 

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going for 962 yards at this. 
Point and and they're 65 in the 

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1st 10 weeks and 25 toward the 
end. 

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The second point I was going to 
make about those two Bills years

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is that the production really 
tailed off late, including the 

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playoffs. 
And in 23, it's tied to the 

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change at offensive coordinator.
The Bills were six and six. 

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They fired Ken Dorsey, brought 
in Joe Brady and just ran the 

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ball all the time. 
And that was it for Diggs. 

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They could have used him against
Kansas City in the playoff game 

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in Buffalo. 
Davis when he dropped a bomb on 

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that first play of the last 
drive and really like Allen was 

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6 for 6:00 on that last drive of
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Buffalo. 
But over 3 passing to Dicks. 

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So 6 for nine overall, like 
late, late in the season in play

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offs. 
He went away, which is part of 

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why they dumped him. 
And if that's all that matters 

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in these things, that's not 
great for, you know, his value. 

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It's tough, but Larry Fitzgerald
never tore his ACL. 

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So it it reminds me a little bit
of Odell Beckham where you had 

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him go to the Rams and had him 
in a different role. 

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He was much more of a possession
receiver with the Rams, but was 

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effective and was someone that 
they, you know, it, you know, in

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the Super Bowl, look like he was
going to be a big part of what 

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they were doing. 
And then he tears this ACL right

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in that game. 
And then he comes back for the 

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Ravens. 
And it's just not. 

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It's just over like, yeah, like,
that's the risk, really. 

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And then if you've got a guy 
who's like, imagine Odell 

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Beckham on the Ravens, that 
style, that quality, plus the 

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coach is really pissed off at 
you because you're parking on a 

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boat when you're supposed to be 
preparing for the season, it 

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could get ugly. 
Like I do really think. 

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That's the other old dull 
comparison, yeah. 

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There's both. 
Like it's a beckon boat too, 

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Yeah. 
Oh baby, here. 

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That's the anti digs just 
wholesomely. 

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Playing with this child. 
I I got to get my son down here 

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now. 
Ravel would love you. 

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Ravel. 
Yeah, Ravel and I are going to 

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be boys. 
Well, Rabel knows what he Rabel 

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knows what he can't control. 
And voluntary is voluntary. 

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And you know, again, does 
yesterday matter for Diggs? 

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I, I, I think my main take away 
is like what I've seen in 

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Buffalo and then the injury, 
which is like, I think late in 

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the season, he's probably not 
going to matter. 

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But you know, there you have 
teams you build where you might 

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need the 1st 10 weeks and then 
he has, you know, he's useful. 

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I mean, how much how much Kyle 
Williams are you guys drafting? 

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Because I I've been taking like 
more than I thought I would, 

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partially because I constantly 
Kate Davis. 

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Says he's got a light throat. 
Somewhere in that 8.28.3 range. 

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I'm gonna fucking come to 
whatever, like podunk town you 

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live in in Missouri. 
You strangle you by the end of 

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the summer. 
I would say I would do it in 

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Vegas, but one, I'm pretty sure 
I'm at a wedding and two, I I 

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know that there's no chance of 
you being there. 

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Literally, literally, like 
literally less than 0. 

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Let's actually this is this is 
actually be a good bit. 

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Would you say there's an 8.3% 
chance of being? 

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Paid. 
No, no, That seems high. 

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All right. 173 completed drafts,
10.1% Kyle Williams. 

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So what? 
What is your What is the 

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percentage of your most drafted 
player in those drafts? 

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I think you just said it point. 
23.3% on by shell tooten. 

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Oh nice, look at that. 
Slappy Slappy never changes its 

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stripes. 
Are you doing pre draft and 

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current combined? 
No, there, there's no well, I'd 

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have. 
To I'm at 22% probably. 

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You're just doing like, that's 
what I'm talking about. 

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Yeah, Davis. 
Yeah, I, I look forward to 

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having, I'm in 50 puppy slows 
that are in probably a median of

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like round 12 right now. 
And I, I look forward to all of 

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those finishing because I feel 
like I've just been drafting the

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same team 50 times. 
Me too. 

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Let let me tell you that is a 
slippery, slippery slope. 

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To be doing. 
The the slow drafts and feel 

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like you're just drafting the 
same team every time. 

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I I found myself doing in the 
slow because I was doing the 

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same thing of truly being like, 
dude, I just cannot take a 49er 

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on this team. 
You just, you just end up taking

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like just literally, you just 
have to pretend the 49ers don't 

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exist because I was just taking 
a 49er like every time. 

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The Tootin victory laps, by the 
way, like in Week 12, like I'm 

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I'm going to be it'll be 
unbecoming if if by Shel Tootin.

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I don't. 
I frankly, I don't think I 

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don't. 
Think I'm already I'm already so

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furious. 
Like on your Twitter feed? 

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Life away on Twitter and like 
the YouTube comments are already

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rolling here at 7:26 in the 
morning. 

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Like I, it's, I don't understand
like how we go through this same

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thing every single year. 
It is like there's an ambiguous 

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backfield. 
There is some veteran, there is 

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some upside option. 
Sometimes the veteran wins. 

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Usually I'll give like James 
Conner in 2021 is one that comes

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to mind as a veteran who won, 
and then one in a way that 

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mattered a lot. 
You know what, though? 

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I think he was also an upside 
option. 

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He wasn't like, yeah, he, he he 
had previously been good. 

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Everyone was writing him off 
because he had fallen off. 

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But he's going against Chase 
Edmonds, who was not good. 

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Sure. 
I'm I'm saying you wanna make 

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the case for Travis ETN Like I 
think there's like something to 

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be said for the Connor. 
He's a Connor esque pick, yeah. 

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But like a lot of the times what
happens is either it's like the 

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Bears in 2023, which is like no 
one really wins. 

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Like there's different winners 
at different times, but nothing 

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really happens. 
The Chargers last year, Dobbins 

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wins. 
But like ultimately, did it? 

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Did he matter in week 15 to 17? 
Like I don't really think he 

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did, no. 
But it's like, if you look at 

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the biggest winners, like it's 
like there's a lot of of, of 

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young, unproven players who 
typically don't look like 

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they're going to be winners in 
week one, get declared dead. 

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People declare them dead 
throughout the summer because of

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dumb reports. 
And then like, sure enough, you 

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wake up and it's like week six, 
week 10, week 15, and you're 

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really, really pumped Have these
guys in your lineup from HN to 

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Chase Brown to Rico Dowdell to 
Bucky Irving to whatever. 

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00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:10,840
And and then then every year we 
do the same thing again, where 

446
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:12,800
it's like the same people every 
year. 

447
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,680
Like, no, can never have any 
fumbles. 

448
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:19,560
The rookie, you know, people are
citing to me, Will Shipley's hit

449
00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,640
rates on Twitter. 
So yeah, I'm, I'm very, very 

450
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:25,120
tilted. 
You know Jacob. 

451
00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:27,040
I'll compete to draft myself 
too. 

452
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,400
It's a great point. 
It's a great point. 

453
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,720
I think, you know, from a sort 
of media standpoint, it stems 

454
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:37,040
from the coaches and the the 
symbiosis from the coaches to 

455
00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,520
certain beat guys that I think 
you're sort of lumping together.

456
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,240
Maybe they're older and that 
would say those things that 

457
00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:44,320
would sort of be old school 
about what matters and what 

458
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,320
doesn't. 
The coach wants to slow the 

459
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:48,720
rookie hype down as hard as he 
can like that. 

460
00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,680
That's almost always true. 
Think of quarterbacks like, 

461
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,720
well, Cam Ward is splitting reps
with whoever, like it's just 

462
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:59,320
they always sort of slow play 
the rookie evolution. 

463
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:03,280
And if you really adhere to 
that, that's where you end up. 

464
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:07,200
And if you take your cues from 
those reporters, whoever you 

465
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:10,280
mean, I think those that's 
basically like listening to the 

466
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,680
coach. 
And that's not the coach's real 

467
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:14,520
position. 
That's just his public position,

468
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,600
which he does for his own 
interests with his veteran 

469
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,120
players, right? 
As I I'm sure, you know, like 

470
00:25:20,120 --> 00:25:24,040
it's we have to make sure the 
rookies earn their opportunity. 

471
00:25:24,040 --> 00:25:26,800
So see through that and you're 
where you are. 

472
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:31,000
Which I think this is. 
That is so true, man, You are. 

473
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,760
You literally show up. 
Could just like not be more 

474
00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:37,360
correct about that. 
That I like they're going to do 

475
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,160
this. 
They're going to do this with 

476
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,960
Genti. 
Like at some point the Raiders 

477
00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:46,280
coaching staff is going to say, 
well, you know, Remoster's been 

478
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,360
in the league a long time. 
And we really like what sincere 

479
00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:50,360
McCormick did for the team last 
year. 

480
00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:52,120
And hey, don't forget about 
Samir White. 

481
00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:54,800
Rahim Moser's been in the league
a long time. 

482
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,000
It's such a funny thing to say. 
Can I I just land up and say 

483
00:25:58,000 --> 00:26:00,000
that I don't have 0% Rahim 
Moser? 

484
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,000
Me neither. 
Yeah, I I drafted the league in 

485
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,440
touchdowns 2 years ago. 
I think I've drafted them once. 

486
00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:07,480
Like, you drafted enough Brock 
Bowers and then you end up 

487
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:10,080
drafting Geno Smith and you get 
to round 18 and you're like, 

488
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,320
well, running back, do I add on?
You're like, yeah, well. 

489
00:26:14,360 --> 00:26:20,320
Yeah, but the the the point is, 
though, is that we we just like,

490
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:21,800
know this is going to happen. 
Guess what? 

491
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:23,920
The Patriots are going to do 
this with Trayvon Henderson. 

492
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,040
The Browns are going to do this 
with Quinton Judkins. 

493
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:31,080
Who what who else am I? 
RJ Harvey, Right. 

494
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:33,240
I, I've been saying this, I've 
been saying this all offseason. 

495
00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,520
Like you asked Sean Payton, who 
he's starting running back is, 

496
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,160
he's not just giving you a 
straight answer about RJ Harvey.

497
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:42,880
Like, we we don't we don't need 
to be like, yeah, dude. 

498
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,680
Well, I mean obviously rookie 
running back X is dead because 

499
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,680
he didn't get the first carry in
June 3rd. 

500
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,840
OTA Hampton. 
Oh, Hampton is the most obvious 

501
00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,880
one. 
Harbaugh is going to give a 

502
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,560
Shakespeare S soliloquy. 
He's going to sound like like 

503
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,920
freaking Hamlet talking about 
how good of an impact Naji 

504
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,320
Harris is going to have on the 
team. 

505
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,800
He he is going to make Naji 
Harris seem as if he is Eric 

506
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,320
Dickerson the first time he gets
asked about Naji Harris. 

507
00:27:10,800 --> 00:27:12,960
From Hamlet to Hampton. 
And then at the end of the 

508
00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:15,200
season, it will not. 
It will not be. 

509
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,280
Yes, but I. 
Just. 

510
00:27:18,120 --> 00:27:20,560
Right. 
Yeah, when Brian Schottenheimer 

511
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,520
gets asked about Javonte 
Williams's effort at Cowboys, 

512
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,920
OTAs will will he, Will he faint
before he gets done? 

513
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,920
Crazy again? 
Right, there will be tears on 

514
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:32,480
the road there. 
Will be tears, yes. 

515
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:34,720
I guess. 
I guess in this scenario, you'd 

516
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,360
want Naji to be Hamlet and you'd
want Hampton to be Fortinbras, 

517
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:39,600
right? 
Because you'd want him to 

518
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:46,640
actually emerge at the end. 
Well, I mean, well, Hamlet, he 

519
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,320
emerges in a way, right? 
He dies. 

520
00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,360
Right. 
But he, he lives. 

521
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:57,680
He lives his truth though. 
Moving forward, Pat made an 

522
00:27:57,680 --> 00:27:59,600
honest effort to put the. 
Quinton. 

523
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,160
Who's Quinton Johnson? 
Like ignore it. 

524
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:04,440
Quinton. 
Quinton Johnson is Quinton 

525
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:05,520
Johnson is Yorick. 
Yeah. 

526
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,280
Alas, alas. 
We knew him well, but his time 

527
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,560
has passed. 
His his death happened off stage

528
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,360
actually. 
Quit. 

529
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:14,320
When? 
The drafted truth. 

530
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,400
Kamani Vidal is definitely 
felonious. 

531
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,360
Kamani Videl No, Kamani Videl is
is even further than that. 

532
00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:25,520
Kamani Videl is Hamlet's dad. 
He, he dies, he dies, he dies 10

533
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,480
years before what we're doing. 
Like the the characters have all

534
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:33,880
been set in a in a completely 
different time period, right? 

535
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,040
Sorry teach, but I didn't know 
we were studying this today. 

536
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:40,520
I didn't know this was going to 
be on the test. 

537
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,800
SF Doom just said. 
I wonder why Jacob is single. 

538
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:49,960
Can I? 
Shakespeare in the Park or the 

539
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,560
ADP chasing Discord? 
Who can? 

540
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:54,400
Who can say? 
Minor in an English major on the

541
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:58,200
show and and we're going to 
derail it and my. 

542
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:01,240
That made an honest effort to 
move us ahead with the Trey. 

543
00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,360
Harris. 
Move to the risers to slide 

544
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,480
well. 
I want actually wanted to. 

545
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,320
I wanted to get us back to to 
one thing real quick because 

546
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:12,320
there were some comments about 
the ambiguous backfield stuff. 

547
00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,240
He just said people are missing 
the point. 

548
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,400
It's anywhere from 1033%. 
But when it happens, it's a huge

549
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,480
win. 
I think it's more than 10 to 33%

550
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,680
is part of the thing as well. 
But but I agree with the 

551
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,440
sentiment, Brett saying Josh 
Jacobs has never been efficient.

552
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:27,440
He's playing the Hall of Fame 
game. 

553
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:29,760
You know, it's kind of our our 
bias against veterans. 

554
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:32,200
That's that's one where I want 
to just note that like that's a 

555
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,920
different bias that we have. 
Like where Jacobs wasn't really,

556
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:38,080
we're competing with anyone. 
We just like weren't really 

557
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,480
draft. 
We were just like, he's too 

558
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,200
gross to draft. 
This is that's what we did with 

559
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,640
Camaro last year, too. 
That's a different thing. 

560
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,600
I think when there's actually 
like, you know, when we talk 

561
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,720
about how to parse this rookie 
stuff, this is a new regime 

562
00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,120
they've gotten rid of like a 
bunch of the old guys for kind 

563
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:56,880
of no reason, like Christian 
Kirk and Evan Ingram. 

564
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,680
I'm kind of still unclear why 
they moved on so readily from 

565
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:00,840
those guys. 
But they're like, get out of 

566
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,360
here, get out of here. 
And then they bring in a running

567
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,400
back. 
Yeah, Davis, although that's 

568
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:06,720
pretty. 
Clear. 

569
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,240
Physical, but yeah. 
Yeah. 

570
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,880
Anyway, then they then that one 
made sense and they and they 

571
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:15,840
bring in they bring in Tootin, 
who, you know, in this running 

572
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:17,640
back class. 
I feel like an early fourth 

573
00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,840
round pick is, you know, maybe 
more of a third in spirit. 

574
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,680
And then they you know, they've 
got they've got Etns coming off 

575
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,880
a really bad year and they're 
they've talked him up as this 

576
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,960
explosive element. 
It's not to say it's definitely 

577
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:33,600
going to happen, but this is 
like, sometimes it feels like 

578
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,360
we're grasping, grasping at 
straws to figure out how these 

579
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,000
veteran running backs aren't 
going to work out. 

580
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,200
This is very different. 
This is like, this is an upside 

581
00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,160
profile that we were excited 
about before the draft that 

582
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,320
lands in a situation where he 
could easily emerge. 

583
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,320
It's much, much more similar to 
like a Bucky Irving last year, 

584
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,440
maybe even a better situation. 
The year previous to the Josh 

585
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,520
Jacobs Hall of Fame Game year, 
he was on a team that made the 

586
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,840
playoffs and Jacobs had like 90%
of the snaps in the wild card 

587
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,840
game and had like 25 touches. 
Like he he was the clear lead 

588
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,280
back. 
They drafted Zamir White, who no

589
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:11,960
one really liked different coach
team, but like Jacobs had never 

590
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,720
been anything but the clear 
starter for the Raiders prior. 

591
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:20,800
And then we kind of like kind of
invented a running back 

592
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,600
controversy out of whole cloth, 
right? 

593
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,000
Travis Etienne was in a full on 
committee last year with Tank 

594
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,520
Bigsby. 
So like, had they never drafted 

595
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,720
by Shel Tootin or anyone, it 
would still be an ambiguous 

596
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,360
backfield. 
It would be like what is going 

597
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,640
to be the breakdown between 
Etienne and and Bigsby? 

598
00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,680
So the Etienne is kind of 
already lost whatever role he 

599
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,520
had two years ago. 
It maybe it gets restored under 

600
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,080
a new coaching staff. 
It's it's possible, but it's not

601
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:49,200
like he's this entrenched 80% 
snap rate guy anymore. 

602
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,520
Like this would be very 
different if this was like last 

603
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,240
year and they had drafted Tooten
and he had to overtake someone. 

604
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,480
There's kind of nothing to 
overtake. 

605
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,440
It's already a split backfield 
with a new staff and they're 

606
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,520
just going to determine what 
it's going to be in season. 

607
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,880
Shout out to Rich Basaccia, who 
probably will go to his grave as

608
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,040
a 58% winner as a head coach in 
the NFL from that first half 

609
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:13,320
Raiders team you're talking 
about. 

610
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,520
Risers ready? 
Let's do it. 

611
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:21,960
Very ready. 
Rushy Rice. 

612
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,320
Rushy Rice because I've been 
drafting a lot lately. 

613
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:26,320
I can I can take responsibility 
for. 

614
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,440
That one I, I think that I think
we have Rushy Rice as the clear 

615
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:36,240
leader in the clubhouse for 
most, like maybe not the most 

616
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:38,720
slappy pick, but the player that
the Slappies are most in 

617
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:41,040
agreement on there. 
There's no slappy who will come 

618
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,720
to the stage and be like, you 
know who I don't love this year?

619
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,200
Rushy Rice. 
He he, he is. 

620
00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,480
He is the slap the slap poster 
boy. 

621
00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,720
If he was going right after Loud
Mcconkey I would still take. 

622
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,920
That's where he should go. 
I think he should. 

623
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,160
Go like in the middle of the 
second round 21. 

624
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,480
Yeah, well, he's up. 
He's up against. 

625
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:02,640
He's up against whom? 
I mean, it's JSN Mclaurin 

626
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:06,120
Jacobs. 
I think he's a much better like 

627
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,280
I have him. 
I'm trying to allow the market 

628
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:13,600
some impact on my rankings. 
So I only have them ranked like 

629
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,520
2425 or whatever. 
I I would boot that if I needed 

630
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,800
to, But I think like he should 
be ahead of Garrett Wilson. 

631
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:25,200
I think he should be ahead of T 
Higgins and I think he should be

632
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,280
in the mix with like maybe 
doesn't need to be ahead of 

633
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,480
them, but like he should be 
going with like Jonathan Taylor 

634
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,840
and Bucky Irving right behind 
the lad A.J. 

635
00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,840
Brown mini tier. 
Personally, like all we're 

636
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,160
getting from the medical 
community. 

637
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,800
I don't, I don't know anything 
about medical. 

638
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,640
So like don't ask me my opinion 
on the LCL, but everything that 

639
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,680
I've seen from the people who do
study this is like this is not 

640
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:48,840
an ACL. 
It's different. 

641
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:51,160
There's a different timeline. 
It has different expectations 

642
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,080
when you return. 
And everything we've heard from 

643
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:56,760
the team is he's full go 
already. 

644
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,800
It's June. 
So I don't really have a reason 

645
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,320
to think he's not going to be a 
full go in week 1. 

646
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:05,040
He's not going to get suspended 
apparently. 

647
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,159
So it's kind of like, all right,
we have this guy who had this 

648
00:34:09,159 --> 00:34:14,639
awesome rookie season, came out,
got drastically better in a very

649
00:34:14,639 --> 00:34:18,040
small sample last season was 
like pacing to compete for wide 

650
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:21,760
receiver one overall. 
And then, yeah, like, Worthy was

651
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,880
good, but he wasn't back up. 
And the biggest threat to 

652
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:28,080
Kelsey's role to me was Kelsey, 
because that's the guy who 

653
00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,400
exists in the same areas of the 
field, the intermediate over the

654
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,320
middle. 
And he fell off in a big way 

655
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,320
last year. 
So I think there's plenty of 

656
00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,120
room for him and Worthy to 
coexist. 

657
00:34:38,199 --> 00:34:41,360
And I think Rice is like, he's 
going to be a target dominant 

658
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:42,840
player. 
You should be going in the 

659
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,360
second round. 
I think he's a massive value. 

660
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,520
Hamlet, sure, but don't ask 
Jacob to define a sprained 

661
00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:50,199
ankle. 
So does Rice. 

662
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,600
Does his his position here 
affect how we start drafts? 

663
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:59,040
I mean, we're talking about that
Lamb, Gibbs or Bijan or 

664
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,600
Jefferson decision. 
Pat, you've said I've been 

665
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,280
thinking of you, hearing you 
when drafting like you just want

666
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:10,080
that wide receiver in round one.
Does Rice matter in how you 

667
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:16,400
calculate that? 
No, right? 

668
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:20,000
Is Pat stuck or is the? 
Question just that might be 

669
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,320
stuck. 
I think Pat. 

670
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:22,640
I think Pat. 
Might be stuck, might be. 

671
00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:23,960
Stuck. 
Yeah. 

672
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,960
Yeah, I mean, what Davis, you 
can you go and Rice is Denver, 

673
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,560
which is a different kind of 
stack too. 

674
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,120
But you pick him. 
I love I love getting him at 

675
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:38,120
like 26. 
So my internet's being a real 

676
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:39,960
problem right now. 
So if you're trying to throw 

677
00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,720
something to me, I just didn't 
hear it all what you're saying. 

678
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,600
Just no. 
Just wondering if if Rice's 

679
00:35:44,920 --> 00:35:48,480
value, if you want him at 21 and
you can get him at 28, does he 

680
00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:51,440
affect how you start drafts? 
Are you, are you sooner to draft

681
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,200
like Gibbs at 5:00 if you're 
going to try to take advantage 

682
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,720
of Rice, if you're getting like 
the the one O 4 or one O 5? 

683
00:35:57,720 --> 00:36:00,360
And I think he makes drafting 
Gibbs a little easier. 

684
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,200
I'm not sure I would 
specifically go to a running 

685
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:07,560
back before like 3 receiver 
starts are pretty, pretty nice. 

686
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:12,480
But I do like McBride a lot. 
So and I do you know, the the 

687
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:14,960
first arm running backs do have 
a ton of upside. 

688
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,240
So he's not he's it's just nice 
to have him there, I guess is 

689
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:22,800
the answer. 
But yeah, I'm I'm pretty 

690
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,600
aggressively trying to target 
Rice right now in, in any, 

691
00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:27,120
anywhere in the third I can get 
him. 

692
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,880
He's been a big target for me 
too. 

693
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,720
Like I read. 
Actually I didn't. 

694
00:36:31,720 --> 00:36:34,200
I didn't read Pat's article, but
I listened to Pat's article. 

695
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,160
I'd like a ruling on how to say 
that. 

696
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,760
By the way, all these books I'm 
reading that I'm actually 

697
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,080
listening to, I mean, what you 
guys tell me you're younger. 

698
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:46,240
What I read, I read. 
I read Pat's audio book on on 

699
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,520
his draft plan. 
I'm a believer that that 

700
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:51,800
information can be conveyed in 
in multiple different ways and 

701
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,040
and all are valid. 
So audio books are books. 

702
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,400
Yeah, I mean they. 
Aren't really, but we can't tell

703
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,240
ourselves that. 
And I've been. 

704
00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:04,320
Doing this, like I said, I I 
honestly think I pay more 

705
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:07,080
attention when I'm listening. 
For sure. 

706
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,000
Me too. 
Me too, definitely. 

707
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,360
And I've been doing all these 
Poppy slows. 

708
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:13,720
And so it's like you get, I 
mean, I've been feeling this 

709
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:15,720
anyway, just doing the drafts 
and looking at my ranks. 

710
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:18,560
But you really, really feel it 
when you're doing like 50 plus 

711
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,640
slow drafts simultaneously and 
you're getting all the picks in 

712
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,480
the same ranges over and over 
and over again. 

713
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:29,040
And like, you know, historically
I'm not exactly a running back 

714
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:33,840
slappy, but I constantly find 
myself like if I'm trying to 

715
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,160
draft off of my rankings. 
So I think are the best picks in

716
00:37:36,160 --> 00:37:38,480
a vacuum, which is kind of what 
I tried to do with these puppies

717
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,600
is like not think structure 
first try to just think players 

718
00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:46,480
1st and then find out how I feel
later in the draft based on what

719
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,440
players I like earlier. 
Like it's almost like I'm using 

720
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,840
them as a Guinea pig. 
You kind of tell me what I'm 

721
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:54,080
what I'm not liking when I draft
off of vibes. 

722
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,600
And what I'm not liking is like 
how many of my teams, you know, 

723
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:01,760
Jaden Reed is my wide receiver 3
or Ricky Pierce Halls, my watch 

724
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,840
3. 
Cuz I, I really want to click 

725
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:06,320
Bowers. 
I really want to click Kittle. 

726
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,600
And then yeah, like that range 
of round basically from Breece 

727
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,480
Hall through to like round 
seven. 

728
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:16,880
I just, I almost always prefer 
the running back, like the only 

729
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,600
wide receivers. 
I really like it cost in that 

730
00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:19,920
range. 
I love Olave. 

731
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,320
It cost, I love pickings. 
It cost. 

732
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:25,320
There's some other ones that I 
like. 

733
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,040
OK but for the most part it's 
like I want to click breeze 

734
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:31,960
every time it's 3-4 turn. 
I don't actually click a ton of 

735
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,240
them but I I like Hampton it 
cost. 

736
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,800
I love that run of Harvey and 
Walker, and I kind of like Chuba

737
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,680
too. 
I think Henderson's a massive 

738
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:45,920
target and I'm even pretty into 
Judkins at cost even though I 

739
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:48,000
didn't really like him from a 
dynasty perspective. 

740
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,640
But I like him a lot in the 7th.
Then it's Pollard and Swift. 

741
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,840
Yeah, that's when I get a little
bit off the train. 

742
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,840
But I I do think those guys are 
good picks and it's more just 

743
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:59,040
those are guys I'm willing to 
sacrifice to get back on track 

744
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,520
or receiver. 
But to bring it back to Rice, 

745
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:05,520
like, yeah, that's why like, if 
need be, I kind of would be 

746
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,440
willing to click him over Taylor
and Bucky. 

747
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:09,520
I like Taylor and Bucky more in 
a vacuum. 

748
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:14,520
But if I needed to click Rice, 
like the two V twos, I think 

749
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,040
that the running back, all of 
the running back Bros are like 

750
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,480
pretty unequivocally right that 
they project better than the 

751
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:25,400
wide receivers at virtually 
every pick in the first half of 

752
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,960
drafts. 
But just naturally, like if wide

753
00:39:29,960 --> 00:39:32,400
receivers are being drafted at a
way higher clip than running 

754
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,640
backs, and if you just think 
about it as like these two 

755
00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:38,240
diagonal lines on the graph, the
delta is just going to get wider

756
00:39:38,240 --> 00:39:40,760
and wider and wider until you 
run out of starting running 

757
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,200
backs. 
So you may as well click the 

758
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:47,720
wide receivers earlier when the 
delta is much smaller and then 

759
00:39:47,720 --> 00:39:51,240
give yourself an opportunity to 
draft the running backs a little

760
00:39:51,240 --> 00:39:53,640
bit later. 
I think the, the thing that I'm 

761
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:57,720
not as into this year and 
haven't done as much as like the

762
00:39:57,720 --> 00:40:01,200
pure 0 RB drafts. 
I mean, I think you can, but I 

763
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:04,360
just haven't really found myself
wanting to click that many wide 

764
00:40:04,360 --> 00:40:08,400
receivers in a row very often. 
But I, I definitely think it's, 

765
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:11,640
yeah, taking, taking the wide 
receivers in the first couple of

766
00:40:11,640 --> 00:40:14,040
picks to give yourself the 
freedom to just click a lot of 

767
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,720
those running backs is, is 
generally made me happier. 

768
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,400
Well, I think you're also, when 
you think about what pure 0 

769
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:24,480
running back looks like, what do
the, the wide receiver, you know

770
00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:28,840
that you get in the, in like the
late 4th or the early 5th look 

771
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:30,520
like? 
Because one of the things that's

772
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,720
happening in addition to the 
wide receivers going up in 

773
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:37,720
general is that we're like 
pricing the, the archetypes 

774
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:41,160
differently. 
So when you get to the 5th 

775
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:44,640
rounds, maybe on DraftKings 
you're looking at Ted McMillan, 

776
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:49,320
but on Underdog you're not. 
And that's the type of guy that 

777
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,600
actually could make a difference
to a three wide receiver start 

778
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:55,880
because you get to the end of 
the season and now he's actually

779
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,800
better than the guy you drafted 
ahead of him. 

780
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:02,480
And you know, you you got that 
upside profile that you're 

781
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,040
tacking on. 
Hunter, you could you could make

782
00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,040
the same case for. 
But like generally when you're 

783
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,200
talking about like a fifth round
receiver, it's more of a steady 

784
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:14,720
Eddie Calvin Ridley kind of kind
of type. 

785
00:41:14,720 --> 00:41:18,840
So it's like less if you're just
doing that, why aren't you 

786
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,200
taking the running back? 
If you're just taking, hey, this

787
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,960
guy projects pretty well, then 
take the running back. 

788
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,440
You don't have any of those, you
know, so it makes it harder. 

789
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:30,800
It's the type of profiles 
available as well. 

790
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,800
Because when you think, OK, I 
want to add more upside to this 

791
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:38,560
3X wide receiver start, well, 
like why don't you wait for, you

792
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,000
know, Luther Burden or a Mecca 
Buca? 

793
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:43,920
You know, those guys are going 
way past the running backs 

794
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,000
general. 
I mean, not all of them, but I 

795
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,400
mean, frankly on DraftKings they
are golden. 

796
00:41:49,400 --> 00:41:50,880
Golden. 
Yeah, exactly. 

797
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:54,560
Like those guys are going kind 
of more in line with the Swifts 

798
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,880
and the Pollards. 
So if you take care of running 

799
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:04,440
back in round, you know, 4-5, 
whatever, then you you can you 

800
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,120
actually buy yourself that extra
little upside shot with a, with 

801
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,560
a Jaden Reed or rookie. 
You know, there's some, there's 

802
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:13,720
some interesting profiles once 
you get back into like the 70s, 

803
00:42:13,720 --> 00:42:15,600
eighties. 
They're they're really 

804
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,600
interesting. 
And Miles and then if you need 

805
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:20,720
like just volume like Garmin, 
Mooney, like Josh Downs and 

806
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:25,480
Mooney and Downs are not that 
different in half PPR scoring. 

807
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,800
No, those, those guys, those 
guys are the they're. 

808
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,600
Not those guys are worse, but 
they're not that different. 

809
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,920
I think they're pretty careful. 
I think it's. 

810
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,160
I think it's. 
Pretty clear. 

811
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,960
Just like Mooney Burden, I'm not
saying any of them specific. 

812
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,960
Well, they're different bets, 
but they're but like the burden,

813
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,880
Ibuka. 
I don't feel Burden's a pretty 

814
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:51,400
terrible pick where he's going. 
Burden has a lot of upside. 

815
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:57,440
Yeah, OK, none of them are 
terrible picks in a vacuum, in 

816
00:42:57,440 --> 00:43:00,200
my slappy brain. 
But like, if we get to the end 

817
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,280
of the year and Darnold, Mooney 
has 613 yards and two 

818
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:06,080
touchdowns, Luther Burden missed
four games of a hamstring 

819
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:09,840
injury, the Bears play a ton of 
12, and MCK Buka is like 

820
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,120
chopping and changing routes 
like it's Week 7. 

821
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,960
He's running 52% of the routes. 
Like none of these things are 

822
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,560
all that surprising. 
Meanwhile, you've got Aaron. 

823
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:18,200
Jones. 
Arnold. 

824
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:24,040
Mooney had last year. 
Like 1003, with 400 of them 

825
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:25,680
coming against the Tampa Bay 
Buccaneers. 

826
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,280
Yeah, you're 11 off. 
That's pretty, pretty darn kid. 

827
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,920
Anyway, Davis like the running 
backs. 

828
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:38,680
So I think there's a huge tear 
break after Nico and BTJ go to 

829
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,360
London, even to A.J. 
Brown, even to LAD. 

830
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,760
So I think there's I think 
there's like it's, it's like a 

831
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:48,640
cavern, a Cliff if you will. 
Then I think there's another 

832
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:54,480
huge tear break after Adams and 
Worthy at and and Mike Evans at 

833
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:58,920
wide receiver 2021 and there's a
gigantic tear break there to the

834
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,160
next range. 
Then you've got from like 

835
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:08,560
Jameson Williams to Ricky 
Pearsall, you have a bunch of 

836
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,400
dudes, you have a bunch of dudes
who are going to project for 

837
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:17,600
like a 9.8 half PPR points per 
game. 

838
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:24,400
So I think weirdly this is kind 
of a year for the what would, 

839
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,600
what would, what would Hayden, 
what would Hayden call it? 

840
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:32,320
Like kind of like later modified
bimodal RB where you start. 

841
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,080
John Paulson is just yeah, 
punching the wall. 

842
00:44:35,080 --> 00:44:39,360
It sounds Shakespeare. 
Modified like bimodal 0 RB 

843
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:40,960
that's that's. 
Straight from. 

844
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,760
That's straight from A Midsummer
Night's Dream, I believe. 

845
00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:47,960
Where you're taking, you're 
taking a lot. 

846
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:50,800
You're taking a lot of them 
Marion Hampton. 

847
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,400
You're taking a lot of Harvey, a
lot of mixing, a lot of Hubbard,

848
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:57,040
a lot of Trayvon Henderson. 
Hyper Dead zone Hyper. 

849
00:44:57,320 --> 00:44:59,560
Dead zone is kind. 
Of you know what, this is what 

850
00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,880
I'm saying. 
What I'm saying is that the dead

851
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:05,600
zone is actually the live zone. 
What I'm saying is that because 

852
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,800
Slappies are so reticent now to 
value projected points at 

853
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,240
running back like Joe Mixon 
after the season he did last 

854
00:45:12,240 --> 00:45:15,240
year in Bestball Mania Two, he 
would have been a second run 

855
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:18,040
pick. 
Chuba Hubbard would have been a 

856
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,720
third round pick. 
James Conner. 

857
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:26,160
James Conner in 2015 might have 
been a 12 turn pick. 

858
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,680
You know what it's like, it's 
like dynasty. 

859
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,360
You know how a dynasty like 
these veterans, they have to, 

860
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,760
they have to have great seasons 
just to hold value. 

861
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,800
We've turned the basketball 
market into that where James 

862
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,880
Conner just delivered like an 
incredible season for his value.

863
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,560
And we're like, great, do it 
again. 

864
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,360
Yeah. 
James Cook In this context, what

865
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,720
does James Cook have to do? 
18 touch runs. 

866
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:51,600
Do it again. 
Do it again. 

867
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:52,640
Well. 
James. 

868
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:53,400
James. 
Good. 

869
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,400
I think we don't believe you. 
Liam. 

870
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:57,760
Liam isn't here so I can at 
least say this, but like James 

871
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,240
Cook is clearly the worst 
profile of any running back 

872
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:01,000
going. 
In the yeah, I, I. 

873
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,640
I have, I'm gonna get super 
launched. 

874
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,680
Actually, I have a 0% James Cook
now. 

875
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:07,560
I have a 0% of half the players 
in the field. 

876
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:09,520
But James Cook is is in that 
group, yeah. 

877
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,440
I hope we get to that. 
I hope we get to that. 

878
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:15,240
Let's let me just read the read 
the names on the on the risers. 

879
00:46:15,240 --> 00:46:17,880
Before time expires, we cover 
them. 

880
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:20,480
And it's 46 minutes in, so I 
think we're doing well. 

881
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:25,480
Rashi Rice, Xavier McGee, Diane 
Brown, Ray Davis. 

882
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:29,000
That's probably a, you know, a 
reaction to Cook maybe holding 

883
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:30,080
out. 
We'll see next week. 

884
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:32,680
Next week is the mandatory not 
expected to be here. 

885
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,520
I think for that, I'll explain 
if you want me to. 

886
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:40,440
Jerkwiz Hunter, Michael Pittman,
Isaiah Pacheco, JK Dobbins and 

887
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,720
Patriots receiver Kyle Williams 
at the bottom. 

888
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:46,040
I just think the the cook thing,
yeah. 

889
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,320
Just real quick on Kyle Williams
got to get the hype out there. 

890
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,480
I don't know what we talked 
about on the show. 

891
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,240
Apparently he made his presence 
felt This was this was from like

892
00:46:55,240 --> 00:46:58,600
a oh, I've been feeling this 
difference during the first 

893
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,160
practice of OTAs and he was 
especially involved running 

894
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,280
routes outside the numbers. 
I would just like to note that 

895
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:09,560
that he's already exceeded Roman
Williams hype pieces from Roman 

896
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:13,360
Wilson's hype pieces from from 
from last year. 

897
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:16,800
Well, he has the the the great 
advantage of not being Stefan 

898
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:19,120
Diggs, not being on that boat. 
I mean, that's good. 

899
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:20,720
That's a big leg up with the 
reporter. 

900
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:23,960
He's also literally the only 
wide receiver that I'm 

901
00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:27,960
interested in clicking from. 
Like basically when Luther 

902
00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:32,040
Burden goes off the board until 
I'm legally allowed to draft Pat

903
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:34,000
Bryant. 
Yeah. 

904
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:37,480
Pat Bryant, huh? 
We're still doing that. 

905
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,760
Like yes, oh, I'm he's very 
pick. 

906
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,920
I love what like I love that 
everyone I don't have one. 

907
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,840
I I draft all the rookies, but I
love that like you have Pat 

908
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:51,960
Bryant and Pete has Jack Bash 
and there's just like 1 rookie 

909
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:55,520
for each of you that you're 
like, Nope, not not doing this 

910
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,920
like over my. 
I mean, hold on, let's check the

911
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,680
let's check the Pat Bryant. 
Guess my Pat Bryant exposure 7 

912
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,880
point. 8.3%. 
Or 4. 66.9. 

913
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:09,960
Oh wow, what a fade. 
I win you guys went over, I win 

914
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:11,960
anyone. 
Want to know my my PAT price 

915
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:15,120
exposure? 
2720 No, no, it's high. 

916
00:48:15,120 --> 00:48:22,520
It's it's got to be like 32. 
Davis want to guess. 26.7. 

917
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:24,800
Go win. 
Winner goes to Pat 34. 

918
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:28,440
Damn. 
What's your highest? 

919
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,240
What's your highest number for 
any player? 

920
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:35,920
Bum Davis out -4047%. 
You, you beat me. 

921
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,720
My highest training player 
currently is Breece Hall 38%. 

922
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,440
Man, that's good. 
When it's early like that, I'm 

923
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,800
at 47% Marshawn Lloyd. 
I can't even really defend. 

924
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:48,320
Oh, Mike. 
That that hurts. 

925
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:50,920
That's like that's. 
They he got the report of Lloyd 

926
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,160
being on the rehab field and he 
was like, I'm going to have to 

927
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,360
go to Canada. 
I got to get out of here, man. 

928
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,280
There. 
Will. 

929
00:49:00,760 --> 00:49:02,840
Be well, I wasn't. 
I am in Canada all the time, so 

930
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,200
you got that part right. 
Does Pitman Jacob? 

931
00:49:06,200 --> 00:49:08,080
Does Pitman make sense as a 
riser? 

932
00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:12,640
Yes, yes, it does. 
I I, I look, never been in a 

933
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,720
Michael Pitman in my entire 
life. 

934
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:21,000
Not a Michael Pitman fan 
generally, but yeah, I don't get

935
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,720
what's going on with the Colts 
wide receiver pricing. 

936
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:26,080
I mean, I understand it. 
Like there's the fear of a rich 

937
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,520
Pat said it best on one of the 
shows. 

938
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,360
Maybe it was this one or 
different one I listen to, but 

939
00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:33,880
like, realistically, either 
Anthony Richardson is going to 

940
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:37,840
play at a better level than he's
played to this point in his NFL 

941
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:40,000
career or he is going to not 
play. 

942
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:43,040
Those are the only two options 
for the quarterback situation. 

943
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:47,920
And if Jones plays, which I 
think he's going to, maybe not 

944
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:53,240
Week 1, but I think Week 1, he's
going to be fine enough at 

945
00:49:53,240 --> 00:49:55,520
completing the ball in the short
and intermediate areas of the 

946
00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,600
field. 
And you're getting two guys and 

947
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,200
Downs and Pittman who have shown
over sustained samples that they

948
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:06,800
can be 25% plus targets per 
outrun guys. 

949
00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:11,840
And they're going in a range 
with backup slash timeshare 

950
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,840
running backs, you know, rookie 
wide receivers who who are 

951
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:19,600
probably third in line on their 
teams in Week 1. 

952
00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:24,400
And like I said, like if you're 
looking at the two V twos to 

953
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:26,920
draft to Calvin Ridley or 
Cortland Sutton, you're 

954
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:32,200
bypassing very high end ceiling 
rookie running backs in like 

955
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:37,280
Harvey, Hampton, Henderson, or 
like kind of second tier 

956
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:43,480
workhorses like a Chuba, Ken 
Walker, Joe Mixon, the to draft 

957
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,240
Downs and Pittman. 
You're bypassing a running back 

958
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:51,440
like Jordan Mason, Jalen Warren,
Cam Scataboo or veterans that 

959
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,640
are like very red flaggy, Isaiah
Pacheco, DeAndre Swift, 

960
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:57,280
etcetera. 
So like to me that 2V2 is just 

961
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,600
pretty obvious that you want to 
tack on. 

962
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:03,240
Especially in best ball. 
Especially in best ball with the

963
00:51:03,240 --> 00:51:05,920
downside of that, that running 
back group could really bite you

964
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,680
later. 
Brian Robinson in that I think. 

965
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:10,200
That they're just massive 
values. 

966
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:13,240
Like to me, like anytime you're 
running low on wide receivers, 

967
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:16,400
it's it's like if I start wide 
receiver heavy and I have a lot 

968
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,480
of upsets, it's like, all right,
I'll chase the dragon, I'll take

969
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:21,360
like an Abuka or something. 
But if I'm, if I need some 

970
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:24,080
stability at wide receiver, 
Michael Pittman is like a 

971
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:27,600
fucking lighthouse in the the 
8th, 9th round where I can just 

972
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:29,920
go grab a guy who I know is 
going to run every route he's 

973
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,320
going to earn a target on 24% of
them. 

974
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:34,040
Like absolutely slide right in 
there. 

975
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:36,240
Well, you talked about his back.
Just isn't broken. 

976
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,640
So he had a fracture in his back
that didn't require surgery and 

977
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:43,440
he played through it. 
But that I think that I think is

978
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,000
just kind of a discount that we 
get. 

979
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:48,360
That's like a last year was icky
discount mostly, I think. 

980
00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:51,960
Yeah, it did. 
It's all he had back surgery. 

981
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:54,520
He was. 
OK, though at the end of the 

982
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,600
year too, like, like he, he was 
really bad in the middle of the 

983
00:51:57,600 --> 00:51:59,640
year and then he kind of felt 
like he was getting a little bit

984
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,520
better. 
And I don't know, I don't think 

985
00:52:01,520 --> 00:52:03,280
there's any reason to be 
concerned about him this year. 

986
00:52:03,600 --> 00:52:06,880
I also, you know, Pittman was 
the guy I picked on ship chasing

987
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,640
as my riser and so thank you for
for helping him rise to 

988
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:16,520
everybody. 
But I like I have never been in 

989
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:20,200
on Pittman and so I'm pretty 
sure there's no bias working 

990
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,400
here for me. 
I'm just like this guy seems 

991
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,480
really underpriced and I I don't
like it, you know, but I'm, but 

992
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:27,600
I'm willing to take him for 
sure. 

993
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:29,880
I mean, in some ways I'm 
dependent on him. 

994
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:33,120
You know, when you take these, 
these running backs in those 

995
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,880
middle rounds. 
I just wanted to know there with

996
00:52:35,880 --> 00:52:38,760
those those builds where we have
a bunch of running backs see, 

997
00:52:38,920 --> 00:52:41,600
you know, in round 4567, that 
kind of range. 

998
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,720
The beautiful thing about this 
year is that if you were to 

999
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:48,480
build like this, even in like 
last year, you're coming out of 

1000
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:51,760
it with a lot of veterans this 
year, you coming out of it with 

1001
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,760
some veterans, but you can also 
come out of with RJ Harvey and 

1002
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,920
Trayvon Henderson and Quinch on 
Judkins and Caleb Johnson. 

1003
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:01,160
I mean, and you do have like a 
bounce back candidate to kind of

1004
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:03,880
kick off the range and in Breece
Hall, it's not like he's very 

1005
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,800
old. 
So, and you know, James Cook, 

1006
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,520
I'm not really that in on it, 
but, but he, he would count, you

1007
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:13,640
know, as a younger guy as well. 
Chuba's not really that old, but

1008
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:15,120
you know, kind of counts as a 
veteran. 

1009
00:53:15,120 --> 00:53:17,800
But it's not just a bunch of 
dust balls that we're, that 

1010
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:20,760
we're like, oh, as long as the 
status quo holds, we'll be OK. 

1011
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:25,920
There's a, a mix of profiles in 
there and you can put a mix of 

1012
00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,880
guys together in one room by 
targeting that range. 

1013
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:31,560
So it it just makes it like a 
very different draft landscape 

1014
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:36,440
than we've been used to. 
Yeah. 

1015
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,160
I mean, just imagine he just 
doesn't play with a broken back.

1016
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,000
It's really sounds good. 
Although I think the difference 

1017
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,040
between Daniel Jones and Anthony
Richardson in terms of like a 

1018
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:51,880
functional offense, I think that
is a smidgen overstated. 

1019
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:56,640
And Daniel Jones's best season, 
the year that they made the play

1020
00:53:56,640 --> 00:54:01,440
offs, frankly the year that just
set that franchise back quite a 

1021
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,760
bit. 
The best, the best, the best 

1022
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:10,080
receiving season, the best 
receiving season on that team 

1023
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:14,480
was Richie James. 57 receptions,
569 yards, 4 touches. 

1024
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:19,200
OK, but the best the receiver on
that team was Richie James, so. 

1025
00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:22,200
Well, it depends. 
Depends on your. 

1026
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:24,800
It depends on your perspective 
maybe. 

1027
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,440
Was Ingram on that team or was 
he gone? 

1028
00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:31,000
Believe believe Ingram was 
either. 

1029
00:54:31,000 --> 00:54:32,800
He was gone. 
Or he was definitely. 

1030
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,640
Gone because I I think he ever 
played for day ball. 

1031
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:39,120
And I remember starting Lawrence
Cager on the Thanksgiving slate.

1032
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:44,080
God, do you guys remember how 
much time we put into to trying 

1033
00:54:44,080 --> 00:54:46,320
to figure out who the Giants 
receivers were? 

1034
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:52,600
Isaiah Hodgins and. 
Hodgins and slay it, Shepherd 

1035
00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:55,480
one. 
Nail I want all that time. 

1036
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:57,720
Sterling Shepherd. 
Man, I thought. 

1037
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,680
Oh yeah, Shep. 
I was a big Richie James guy. 

1038
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,280
I'm gonna be real with you guys.
That's good. 

1039
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,160
That's good. 
I remember you put it on the 

1040
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:08,320
Internet like we. 
Were Remember, Remember, Richie 

1041
00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:11,360
James was the chief, yes. 
Oh yeah, I do. 

1042
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:12,600
He was like. 
Wyatt. 

1043
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:15,720
Like you and Reeves and all, I 
think Reeves, I, I'm sorry, 

1044
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:17,800
Reeves, if you weren't on them, 
but I, I remember like all these

1045
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,800
people that I really respect 
being like Richie James, man, 

1046
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:21,880
you got to get him. 
But I was like, why? 

1047
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:26,320
Why do I need to get him? 
Because he had that one. 

1048
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,840
He had that 140 burger against 
the Packers on Thursday night. 

1049
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:33,960
Yeah, when like every 49ers wide
receiver was out. 

1050
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:38,400
Just by the way between us since
you mentioned him as I continue 

1051
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,720
my effort or my. 
Live on YouTube. 

1052
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:45,040
For as I continue my efforts to 
make my WGR show, it's been on 

1053
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,520
the air for 22 years in Buffalo.
More like this today rebar 

1054
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:53,440
tomorrow Ian Hurditz just saying
4:00 today and tomorrow. 

1055
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:55,120
I'm I'm I'm getting away with 
it. 

1056
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,640
Is there is there any die any 
Browns on my last call team? 

1057
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:04,760
So just quickly why? 
People are not drafting Jalen 

1058
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:07,600
Royals and Isaac Tesla and stuff
like that, and they're just 

1059
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,280
taking the guy they know is on 
the field. 

1060
00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,480
Yeah, I mean, he got a bull. 
He got a bull signal. 

1061
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,840
There was a beat report talking 
about how like, they need Diami 

1062
00:56:15,840 --> 00:56:17,960
Brown on the field because he's 
going to take the top off and 

1063
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,640
allow Brian Thomas to work at 
all levels, which is kind of 

1064
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,960
bullish for both of them. 
It's really bullish for Thomas. 

1065
00:56:23,240 --> 00:56:26,800
But it also I think shows, OK, 
if they're viewing Diami Brown 

1066
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,920
as a fixture of the offense, 
it's going to be him and three 

1067
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:30,360
wide receiver sets. 
It's not going to be Parker 

1068
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:31,920
Washington, which we probably 
already knew. 

1069
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:37,520
I've been taking Diami plus like
sometimes, you know, in the rare

1070
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:41,160
draft that I don't draft Travis 
Hunter, I still want Trevor 

1071
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,640
Lawrence on my team because ADP 
makes no fucking sense to me at 

1072
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:46,600
all. 
And then I can just backstack 

1073
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,960
him with Bretton Strange and 
Diani Brown if I don't have 

1074
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:50,440
another quarterback option set 
up. 

1075
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:51,600
So. 
And your Colts? 

1076
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,120
Works pretty nicely. 
Yeah, so I'm having a lot of 

1077
00:56:55,240 --> 00:56:57,160
Diani. 
I'm having such a tough time 

1078
00:56:57,160 --> 00:56:58,960
stacking this year. 
It just the last three years, it

1079
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,800
seems so easy. 
It just all falls in. 

1080
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,400
Why do I have Marshawn Lloyd 
like that? 

1081
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,880
I'm trying to get Ravens, you 
know? 

1082
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,480
And I don't know, it's something
about some sort of cognitive 

1083
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:11,240
dissonance happening for me with
with stacking this year where I 

1084
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:13,400
feel like if I'm going to get 
what I want, I have to jump 

1085
00:57:13,440 --> 00:57:17,360
around, at least in ADP. 
And you know, it's probably in a

1086
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:22,280
$3 Schnauzer draft. 
Worth doing Faller 1? 

1087
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,120
Said this in the chat and by the
way I really agree. 

1088
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:30,240
Like Diami Brown is kind of the 
perfect around 18th pick in June

1089
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:34,000
where it's like in August you're
going to want to probably attack

1090
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,600
running backs in that range that
have a low draft rate in the 

1091
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:39,200
contest that we didn't know over
the RV 2 before. 

1092
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:41,080
But now we we are more sure of 
it. 

1093
00:57:42,080 --> 00:57:44,480
You know, a lot of those running
backs are very sketchy at the 

1094
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:46,480
end right now where we don't 
know enough information. 

1095
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:48,440
But we do know Diami Brown is 
going to be on the field. 

1096
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:50,160
We know he's going to have a 
best ball favorable role. 

1097
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,720
Like that's the kind of guy you 
take now and then you're happy 

1098
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,080
that you have, you know, 9% 
today becomes 4% when the 

1099
00:57:57,080 --> 00:57:59,680
contest opens. 
But you've you've allocated 

1100
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,320
those picks in a in a way that 
makes sense. 

1101
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,800
All right, I agree. 
And I mean, do you, I mean, 

1102
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,480
Brown also John Shipley had a 
report where he was, you know, 

1103
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,800
saying some positive things 
about Hunter, but also was like,

1104
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:12,560
Brown looks really good out 
there. 

1105
00:58:12,680 --> 00:58:15,920
You know, it's against air and 
you know, maybe, maybe it 

1106
00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:20,240
doesn't mean anything. 
But with Gabe Davis gone, even 

1107
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:23,920
with Hunter, they're like, you 
know, it's it's very likely that

1108
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:28,280
Brown's going to play a bunch. 
So nice to see because, I mean, 

1109
00:58:28,280 --> 00:58:30,240
I guess it would really be. 
It's like they got to figure out

1110
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,520
who they want to prioritize 
between him and Parker. 

1111
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:35,320
Washington sounds like he has 
the early lead there. 

1112
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:37,760
Yeah. 
Also like luck man I I drafted 

1113
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,920
Yanni Brown in a lot of 2O sixes
ahead of Almond, Ross St. 

1114
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:42,720
Brown and Nico Collins back in 
the day. 

1115
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,400
So like we got to get. 
This is how we get even. 

1116
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:50,760
Yeah, exactly. 
All right, to the Faller, Stefan

1117
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:54,600
Diggs is the headliner. 
We've been over that. 

1118
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:56,480
Jonnu Smith. 
I want to talk about Dylan 

1119
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,520
Sampson, Devin Neil, Tyreke 
Hill. 

1120
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:02,080
Jacob's take on Tyreke is 
getting traction. 

1121
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:07,080
Jalen Knoll, Luther Burden off 
an injury report, Alec IO Manor 

1122
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,080
and Jalen Royals, 2 rookies very
near each other in drafts, 

1123
00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:14,920
falling a smidge. 
So today Adam Schefter jumped 

1124
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,920
back in on the into the Jonnu 
Smith waters. 

1125
00:59:18,440 --> 00:59:21,400
Last week it was they're talking
trade with Pittsburgh. 

1126
00:59:21,400 --> 00:59:24,840
Very kind of oddly specific, I 
thought out of nowhere. 

1127
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:28,320
And then today it was the exact 
wording was something to the 

1128
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:30,520
effect of he will not be traded 
to Pittsburgh. 

1129
00:59:31,240 --> 00:59:36,000
So we're we're sort of maybe 
back on safe ground when it 

1130
00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,320
comes to Jonno Smith. 
And he read on what happened 

1131
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,160
there or what will happen or 
what's happening to his value. 

1132
00:59:42,520 --> 00:59:44,720
That was weird. 
That was just, that was just a 

1133
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,960
weird, it was just a weird 
report to have come out. 

1134
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:50,960
I, I really, the way it 
functioned for me was I was 

1135
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:52,760
looking to be light on Jonnu 
anyways. 

1136
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:56,240
He seemed like the most obvious 
Gary Barnage of the season to 

1137
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:59,680
me. 
And I, I kind of just needed one

1138
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,000
thing to happen and I, I got it 
right. 

1139
01:00:04,160 --> 01:00:06,880
Just like a slight bit of 
miscontentment from Jonnu or 

1140
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,680
from the team or from the agent 
or, or whatever. 

1141
01:00:11,000 --> 01:00:14,800
So. 
Yeah, like I'm I'm, I'm done. 

1142
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:16,520
I'm out. 
So that took your that took your

1143
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:19,320
8.3 down to a 7.4. 
This is actually a good 

1144
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,280
question, John. 
Let's see if I do have. 

1145
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:25,800
I literally, literally have 8.2%
of Jonu. 

1146
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,400
Exactly. 
Exactly 8.2%. 

1147
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,720
Of Jonu. 
So that's a big, that's a big 

1148
01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:34,160
negative stand for you. 
That's a full .1% multiple. # 

1149
01:00:34,360 --> 01:00:36,600
Davis Davis are you comfortable 
with that? 

1150
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,040
Are you comfortable with the 
whole season playing out and 

1151
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:44,160
you're below 8.3? 
Yeah, so The thing is is like 

1152
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:49,880
old old beat 2024 me like 
literally 0 like a horrible 

1153
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,880
profile. 
All of his production came on 

1154
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:56,440
bullshit that was a result of a 
broken offense. 

1155
01:00:56,600 --> 01:00:59,240
Like he like he is just straight
up a bad pick. 

1156
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,080
So 8.2% for me. 
I've got them one. 

1157
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:10,240
Straight up bad pick and you're 
dead even Yeah. 

1158
01:01:11,880 --> 01:01:16,240
No, that's not dead, even below 
dead evens. 

1159
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,960
This one like. 
Like, OK, really exposure you 

1160
01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,200
have to like, it's gonna like 
show like there's gonna be like 

1161
01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,280
an exposure chart. 
It's gonna show like my exposure

1162
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:27,240
is next to Davis's and the graph
will look the exact same. 

1163
01:01:27,240 --> 01:01:30,800
But if you zoom in and you just 
see what's on the X axis, it's 

1164
01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:34,560
like the median in in both 
charts will be 8.3. 

1165
01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:37,840
But instead of the the wings 
being like 0 and 25 for David, 

1166
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:41,320
this is the wings are just like 
7.9 and 8.5. 

1167
01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:44,280
It's like this is extremely 
zoomed in. 

1168
01:01:44,280 --> 01:01:48,320
This is like parabola. 
These look like Dodge, but 

1169
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:53,680
they're actually ranges. 
Like imagine telling 2024 Davis 

1170
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:58,960
that Travis Kelsey goes after 
Jonnu Smith and you have roughly

1171
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:03,320
equivalent amounts. 
I have 13.2% of Travis Kelsey 

1172
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:06,200
coming off of 98 reception 
season. 

1173
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:09,480
I mean Travis Kelsey after pick 
100. 

1174
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,360
Like, let's just be real. 
How much he is gonna, he is 

1175
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:16,680
gonna Jason Witten his way. 
Yeah, it does some Jason 

1176
01:02:16,680 --> 01:02:19,360
Whitney. 
He's gonna be the tight end for 

1177
01:02:19,640 --> 01:02:23,440
this year, just like so self 
evidently, and probably you 

1178
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,480
probably won't win. 
You probably won't win anything 

1179
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,680
from it because the spikes are 
not gonna be that high. 

1180
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,920
But I mean, he's just like, 
obviously, obviously a better 

1181
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,880
pick than John who? 
I haven't taken much of, I just 

1182
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:38,360
haven't taken much of tight end 
in that range. 

1183
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:42,520
Like I draft, you know, I'm at 
like 25% Bowers and like 34% 

1184
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:44,640
Kittle. 
So that obviously has a major 

1185
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:47,080
impact on how I'm drafting the 
tight end position. 

1186
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:50,920
And then I really love the range
from like Ferguson to Goddard 

1187
01:02:51,320 --> 01:02:56,520
and I love Moo craft and Henry 
gentleman craft. 

1188
01:02:57,440 --> 01:03:00,880
So it's like to me like 
everything from kind of that 

1189
01:03:00,880 --> 01:03:03,880
range down, I like more. 
So generally speaking I'm doing 

1190
01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:06,600
more 2 tight end with one of 
Kittle or Bowers and then one of

1191
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:09,200
the late guys. 
Kincaid as well, dare I say it. 

1192
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,280
Yeah, he, yeah. 
But this knee stuff is is. 

1193
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:15,040
Not on, not on my teams, but he 
does go there. 

1194
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:21,000
And then, you know, even if I'm 
waiting on tight end, it's like 

1195
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:23,520
I don't actually feel that much 
of A need to start my three 

1196
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:26,480
tight end builds in that range. 
Like sure, if one falls, but for

1197
01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,120
the most part, like if I've 
bypassed Kittle and Bowers, it's

1198
01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:34,960
like I'll just take like Henry 
and Ferguson and like Terence 

1199
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:37,120
Ferguson or Elijah Arroyo with 
my last pick. 

1200
01:03:37,120 --> 01:03:39,560
Something like that. 
Like I'm OK with the late late 

1201
01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:43,400
3. 
Mason Taylor, may I say, may I 

1202
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:49,880
say I've been wanting to get 
this in this community is so 

1203
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:53,680
damn out on Dalton Kincaid. 
Is it Liam's fault? 

1204
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:56,400
Is it obvious to everyone else 
that he can't? 

1205
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,560
It's, it's Liam. 
No, it's Liam's. 

1206
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:01,400
Fault is it? 
It's not possible that a first 

1207
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,040
round pick from two years ago on
a Josh Allen team that has no 

1208
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:10,800
other obvious number one guy 
coming off an injury, that 54% 

1209
01:04:10,800 --> 01:04:15,600
whatever success rate on passes 
spikes because they're just sort

1210
01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:17,920
of get to know each other better
and he's healthy. 

1211
01:04:18,320 --> 01:04:22,040
It's so it's so clear to 
everybody I listen to that. 

1212
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:24,080
That is just not in the range of
outcomes. 

1213
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,520
Listen, I, I actually kind of 
want to be in on Dalton Kincaid,

1214
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:31,360
but I don't why is so the last 
night I saw Jeff Mueller had a 

1215
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,840
tweet about this weird sprain he
had in his knee. 

1216
01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:37,760
And then there was a, an article
that I just saw the other day 

1217
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,680
that said he's dealing with a 
posterior lateral ligament PCL 

1218
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:46,640
sprain in his left knee and a 
rare memorial lava Lee lesion in

1219
01:04:46,640 --> 01:04:49,360
his right knee. 
He's expected to go under, 

1220
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:52,000
undergo rehabilitation to 
prevent chronic issues and aim 

1221
01:04:52,000 --> 01:04:54,000
for a complete recovery. 
This is something he dealt with 

1222
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:57,280
late last season. 
So like the whole he's healthy 

1223
01:04:57,280 --> 01:05:00,240
thing is the part that I'm 
worried about, like is he 

1224
01:05:00,240 --> 01:05:02,720
healthy? 
He, he was shown with like a 

1225
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:05,440
knee, like a knee brace or thing
something on his knee. 

1226
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:07,800
I'm just like he was. 
I would like more information 

1227
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,400
about. 
His knees, I think he's there 

1228
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,680
with the knee. 
I just think there's no evidence

1229
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:17,880
that he's that talented of a 
player and I'm there's also no 

1230
01:05:17,880 --> 01:05:21,440
reason to project that he's 
going to play full time and he's

1231
01:05:21,440 --> 01:05:25,520
going ahead of guys that are 
both more talented and going to 

1232
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:27,320
play full time. 
So I just don't like. 

1233
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,320
Like this is how I feel here. 
He's a lava lamp at his. 

1234
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,320
Knee this is this is my current 
vibes. 

1235
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:37,400
He's a lava lamp at his knee. 
OK, I'm going to need to know 

1236
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:38,720
more. 
About that, I'll say one more 

1237
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:41,160
thing. 
I mean, that's fair. 

1238
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,920
If it's injuries, that's fair. 
But injuries were are not really

1239
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:47,840
my point. 
If he's got, if he's down bad 

1240
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:49,760
with his knees, then that's 
maybe the ball game. 

1241
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:54,120
But it was already decided that 
he was bad before any of that. 

1242
01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,880
Well, he was a bad, he was a bad
prospect. 

1243
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,600
Show is the other thing. 
So he was a bad prospect. 

1244
01:06:00,440 --> 01:06:02,960
He was an OK, he was an 
overrated prospect. 

1245
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:06,400
He had one game against USC and 
or else he would not have. 

1246
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:08,240
Been so so it's. 
More. 

1247
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,920
Here's all the evidence. 
Bad in the NFL. 

1248
01:06:12,360 --> 01:06:16,280
Injured, overrated prospect 
hasn't been able to beat out 

1249
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,680
Dawson Knox for snaps. 
And then over here you have he 

1250
01:06:18,680 --> 01:06:21,600
was a first round pick. 
Was never going, he was never in

1251
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:24,800
the same, you know, grouping as 
Dawson Knox. 

1252
01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,720
He was never he's a receiver. 
He's not he's not a tight end. 

1253
01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:29,840
He. 
Was he was drafted at the wrong 

1254
01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:32,200
time? 
Like if he'd come. 

1255
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,080
By the right team. 
If if Dalton Kincaid was coming 

1256
01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:38,720
out this year in the in the way 
that current NFL used the tight 

1257
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:40,800
end position, he would have been
a third round pick like Harold 

1258
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:42,120
Fannon. 
But he came. 

1259
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:44,760
In like 20 he'd be like 26, so 
everyone would have loved him. 

1260
01:06:44,760 --> 01:06:46,560
He probably would have been like
the first overall pick. 

1261
01:06:48,000 --> 01:06:49,040
You know. 
Saints. 

1262
01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:50,640
Saints would have. 
Part of up the title bill if. 

1263
01:06:50,840 --> 01:06:52,520
He can throw. 
Bill's thought, if you get 

1264
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,080
there, I don't know, he's just 
he, he's, he's a, he's like 

1265
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,760
their backup slot wide receiver.
I see this, I want to bet 

1266
01:07:00,760 --> 01:07:03,040
against this negativity. 
I am with you SHO. 

1267
01:07:03,040 --> 01:07:08,160
Like he's he's been OK. 
He's a third year tight end, but

1268
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,160
1.51 yards per hour runs a 
rookie and over 100 targets 

1269
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,320
pretty good. 
Pretty good for a rookie tight 

1270
01:07:14,320 --> 01:07:16,640
end. 
Then last year's at 1.54 yards 

1271
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:19,480
per outrun. 
That includes the egregious drop

1272
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:21,520
in the playoffs. 
And apparently he was dealing 

1273
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,600
with some kind of, I mean, come 
on, that was horrible. 

1274
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,480
And he's, you know, he's dealing
with some weird, neat thing, 

1275
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:29,960
Jackie. 
Smith is an egregious tight end 

1276
01:07:29,960 --> 01:07:31,680
drop in the playoffs. 
That was all. 

1277
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:35,000
I just need someone come on. 
Look, I will draft. 

1278
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:39,680
I will draft Alden Kincaid today
if someone can explain to me how

1279
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,600
he's going to run 75% of the 
routes this year. 

1280
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:45,720
He's he's white. 
Gesicki on the bills, you just 

1281
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:49,920
need him to have a 28% targets 
per outrun on 62% of the routes.

1282
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:53,480
Yeah, that that I can't do. 
You want to see some red zone 

1283
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,480
action happen for him? 
But that hasn't not happened 

1284
01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:56,760
yet. 
He's got me before touchdown. 

1285
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:58,120
They don't. 
They don't throw, they don't 

1286
01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,680
throw in the red zone. 
I know, I know because well, 

1287
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,560
it's both. 
It's both things, right, What 

1288
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:05,200
their options are and who they 
have in Allen I I'll just say 

1289
01:08:05,280 --> 01:08:08,360
keeping with last. 
Week's name This is This is a 

1290
01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:12,680
math problem like he either I 
one of these three things needs 

1291
01:08:12,680 --> 01:08:14,320
to happen for him to be playing 
a lot. 

1292
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,680
Either Khalil Shakur needs to be
an outside wide receiver. 

1293
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,840
Not happening. 
Dalton Kincaid needs to be an in

1294
01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:21,520
line tight end. 
Not happening. 

1295
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,359
Or Khalil Shakur needs to not 
play not. 

1296
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:25,800
Happening because. 
Like you can only put him so 

1297
01:08:25,800 --> 01:08:27,399
many places. 
Either he's playing ahead of 

1298
01:08:27,399 --> 01:08:30,120
knocks in line, he's playing 
ahead of Shakur in the slot, or 

1299
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,000
he's playing in the slot and 
Shakur's playing outside. 

1300
01:08:32,359 --> 01:08:33,720
Those are the only three 
options. 

1301
01:08:34,000 --> 01:08:35,319
None of us. 
Well, you know what? 

1302
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,240
OK, all right. 
God forbid Jacob is making me 

1303
01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:42,120
defend Dalton Kincaid. 
Yeah, that's how I feel. 

1304
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:46,520
There are there are NFL 
formations that effectively use 

1305
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:49,800
two slot wide receivers that 
that do, that have no in line 

1306
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:53,279
tight end, that have two guys 
within 5 yards of the tackle on 

1307
01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:55,880
either side, that are perfectly 
cromulent plays. 

1308
01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:57,479
It's a total. 
Those are cromulent plays. 

1309
01:08:57,479 --> 01:08:59,880
If it's not third and eight, 
like you can't, you're you're 

1310
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:02,880
saying like you're going to be 
open edge, so there's going to 

1311
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,080
be no one in line. 
If it's if it's first and 10:00 

1312
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,000
and you're doing that, you're 
just announcing to the other 

1313
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:09,720
team, you're going to pass, 
which is it's fine. 

1314
01:09:09,960 --> 01:09:11,439
But then you just end up 
checking the ball down. 

1315
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,000
That's what the Bills did as an 
offense when they drafted 

1316
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,120
Kincaid. 
But since then, they've decided 

1317
01:09:16,120 --> 01:09:18,439
they don't want to do that 
anymore. 6 lineman. 

1318
01:09:18,760 --> 01:09:21,840
So on 3rd and 8th they'll do 
that and that's fine. 

1319
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,319
But on early downs they're 
they're not lining up like that 

1320
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:27,319
anymore because they want to be 
they, they want to be playing 

1321
01:09:27,319 --> 01:09:29,279
against base personnel defenses.
They don't want to be playing 

1322
01:09:29,279 --> 01:09:32,279
against diamond nickel. 
Power, a deep dive name for for 

1323
01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:34,640
Davis. 
Speaking of the Bills and tight 

1324
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:37,840
ends, they drafted a guy named 
Jackson Hawes who is basically 

1325
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:38,600
going to be. 
There. 

1326
01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,319
He's a Yale, a tight end from 
Yale. 

1327
01:09:43,359 --> 01:09:46,840
So they ran 6 offensive lineman 
like all the time last year. 

1328
01:09:46,840 --> 01:09:49,439
Alec Anderson was the guy. 
This is going to be this is 

1329
01:09:49,439 --> 01:09:51,920
going to be that guy that they 
can pass to if they want. 

1330
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:54,640
So, you know, that's I. 
I got. 

1331
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:57,480
To. 
I got to be honest brother, that

1332
01:09:57,480 --> 01:10:00,200
is not inspiring a ton of 
confidence knowing that they 

1333
01:10:00,200 --> 01:10:03,560
kind of have a ready made guy to
take snaps from Kincaid. 

1334
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:05,200
So Kincaid. 
Jackson Hall. 

1335
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:07,440
The nick for Jackson Hayes and 
Spencer Hawes? 

1336
01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,840
Yeah, Kincaid played 202. 124 
inline snaps last year, which is

1337
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,960
about half of what Dawson Knox 
played inline. 

1338
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:20,320
He was at 5:11. 
Knox is the third biggest cap 

1339
01:10:20,320 --> 01:10:23,880
hit on their team and that was 
just a very dubious decision 

1340
01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:27,760
three years ago that they made. 
Keeping with keeping with last 

1341
01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:32,920
week's theme, I'm 6% Kincaid and
I've been talked out of them. 

1342
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:40,080
I have, I only have, I only have
like 3% of Kincaid. 

1343
01:10:40,280 --> 01:10:42,280
So. 
So he's not even an 8 percenter 

1344
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,040
for me. 
Pat, Pat, you have one more on 

1345
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:47,720
this. 
No, I was just going to note 

1346
01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:50,680
that the inline snaps were are 
pretty, you know, they're 

1347
01:10:50,680 --> 01:10:55,480
they're light that, but I think 
my he put he played over 200 

1348
01:10:55,480 --> 01:10:58,120
snaps last year in line. 
It's not like he doesn't do it 

1349
01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,720
at all. 
It's about equivalent to what he

1350
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,800
played in the slot. 
He's way below Dawson Knox. 

1351
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:07,480
So yeah, Kincaid was at 224 in 
line, 243 in the slot. 

1352
01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:12,720
Knox played 511 snaps in line 
but Kincaid was like an OK run 

1353
01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:14,640
blocker last year, better than 
Knox. 

1354
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:17,000
So I'm sure his assignments were
were generally much weaker. 

1355
01:11:17,000 --> 01:11:19,960
But that would be the path I 
think. 

1356
01:11:19,960 --> 01:11:23,680
Is it like Knox is not some 
special guy who can't be passed?

1357
01:11:23,720 --> 01:11:26,080
Like Kincaid could get better in
his third season as a run 

1358
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,320
blocker and take on more of the 
true tight end role. 

1359
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:31,200
I, I think that's your upside 
case. 

1360
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:33,680
Now, maybe it's not that 
compelling an upside case. 

1361
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,880
It's not compelling enough of an
upside case for me to get 

1362
01:11:36,880 --> 01:11:39,600
excited when I'm dealing with a 
lava lamp in a guy's knee. 

1363
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:41,240
What's going on with the lava 
lamp? 

1364
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:44,320
Let's figure that out, that 
that's priority #1. 

1365
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:46,960
I like that you know what a lava
lamp is of. 

1366
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:50,160
Course I do. 
What are you talking about? 

1367
01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:52,320
Lava lamps were like popular in 
the 90s, weren't they? 

1368
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,000
They like I. 
They were, they were. 

1369
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:57,320
They were retro. 
Retro popular. 

1370
01:11:57,880 --> 01:11:59,840
Yeah, they were retropod. 
They do. 

1371
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:02,360
My my. 
Favorite podcast Bench plane? 

1372
01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:06,320
Shout out to Yossi Solik. 
My parasocial best friend has a 

1373
01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:09,280
theory that everything about the
90s is just making the 70s cool 

1374
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,200
again, and I think that might 
apply to lava lamps. 

1375
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:13,480
Lava lamps. 
Because I was like a kid. 

1376
01:12:13,640 --> 01:12:17,080
I wasn't like I wasn't because 
in the 70s, right, lava lamps 

1377
01:12:17,080 --> 01:12:20,720
were more like you're like a 
teenager, like in college and 

1378
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,680
you're like, you know, smoking. 
No, I think respect was a very 

1379
01:12:24,680 --> 01:12:25,560
weak Jay. 
Just a. 

1380
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,480
Young adults like Jay, My, my, 
my parents. 

1381
01:12:29,000 --> 01:12:32,280
And that was the lava lamp 
house, you know, 1975 when I was

1382
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:33,240
3. 
I see. 

1383
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:35,520
And we had lava lamps in every 
room we had. 

1384
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:38,760
We had a lava lamp for every 
every situation in those days. 

1385
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:43,760
I'll have to get one for the set
next week. 

1386
01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:45,800
Get a level and I. 
Guess my fundamental issue with 

1387
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:48,840
this Kincaid thing is like, OK, 
like I guess, but you can just 

1388
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,840
draft Dallas Goddard, who's 
gonna play all the snaps and 

1389
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:55,640
yeah, has like a 100 yards per 
run every year and also plays in

1390
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:57,760
a really good run heavy offense 
and he goes later. 

1391
01:12:57,760 --> 01:12:59,280
So it's like, why do I need to 
take Dalton Kincaid? 

1392
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,200
You can both week 17 take them 
both at the turn. 

1393
01:13:02,240 --> 01:13:04,840
So my, my Internet went out when
you were talking about this 

1394
01:13:04,840 --> 01:13:07,360
report for Johnny Smith. 
What was the Because I looked up

1395
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:08,880
on Schefter's Twitter, I don't 
see anything. 

1396
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:09,320
What? 
What? 

1397
01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:12,240
What did you say there? 
There's something more from him 

1398
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,960
today. 
I got to find it, but he ruled 

1399
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:18,960
out a Steelers trade. 
So after last week bringing up 

1400
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:20,880
the possibility of a Steelers 
trade today. 

1401
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:25,720
So my, my, my take from this 
last week, I think that that 

1402
01:13:25,720 --> 01:13:27,880
confirms that I can keep 
thinking what I already thought,

1403
01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,640
which is that Johnny Smith 
wanted more money. 

1404
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:35,400
And my take on on legendary 
sickos last week was that this 

1405
01:13:35,400 --> 01:13:40,520
is when as a kid, you tell your 
dad that you want something else

1406
01:13:40,520 --> 01:13:43,320
for dinner, not what your mom 
made. 

1407
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:47,360
And your dad goes, great, make 
your own dinner. 

1408
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,880
Then frigerator's right over 
there. 

1409
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:52,640
And then you go, actually, you 
know what? 

1410
01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:55,960
This is pretty good. 
I'm I'm good at this is this is 

1411
01:13:55,960 --> 01:13:57,960
better than this is better than 
I thought it would be. 

1412
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,680
I'm going to just shut up and 
eat, I think. 

1413
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:05,280
I'm such I'm such a bad dad 
because when my son and hoping 

1414
01:14:05,280 --> 01:14:07,600
to get him down here since you 
brought Vivian on the show and 

1415
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,840
they're doing so again. 
When he says that to me, I'm 

1416
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:13,120
like, let's go because I'm in. 
I'm in too. 

1417
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:17,360
So let's DoorDash, she's making 
veggie Curry. 

1418
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,240
I'm going to I'm I'm with hey, 
the kids want something else. 

1419
01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:20,920
I'm in. 
Let's go. 

1420
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,560
Nice. 
That's pretty good. 

1421
01:14:25,280 --> 01:14:26,280
That's. 
Brutal. 

1422
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:29,600
That is brutal, dude. 
Well. 

1423
01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:31,040
I'm with you. 
How do? 

1424
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,040
You get away with that. 
I don't think I do. 

1425
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:41,680
Rule rule in our house is if if 
someone's cooking you, you're 

1426
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,160
eating it. 
Yeah, that's. 

1427
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:44,840
Just that's what's. 
That's what's. 

1428
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:46,000
On. 
That's fair, yeah. 

1429
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,560
That's a good rule as it's been 
established in ship chasing. 

1430
01:14:48,560 --> 01:14:51,440
I, I live alone. 
So if I want something for 

1431
01:14:51,440 --> 01:14:55,200
dinner, you're having it, I'm 
cooking it or I'm, or I'm, I'm 

1432
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:58,800
calling my, my local DoorDash 
driver and having it delivered. 

1433
01:14:58,800 --> 01:15:00,080
Those are. 
Those are really the only two 

1434
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:03,520
options. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

1435
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:05,840
Anyway, I think Jon who had a 
bluff that was called, I'm not 

1436
01:15:05,840 --> 01:15:07,880
worried about this old Jonathan.
I think it's a, you know, 

1437
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:10,680
whether or not you want to take 
him in the 1st place is a 

1438
01:15:10,680 --> 01:15:12,440
different matter. 
But if you're getting a discount

1439
01:15:12,440 --> 01:15:16,360
because of because he asked for 
more money and was told probably

1440
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:18,680
not, I I think I'm going to take
that discount. 

1441
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:24,240
So one idea we had for today was
everybody's 0%. 

1442
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:28,240
You know who's the best, highest
ranked player on the board that 

1443
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:31,760
you're just never taking? 
We talked about this Jacob and 

1444
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:34,520
IA little bit in the discord. 
I hope you guys sort, sort of 

1445
01:15:34,520 --> 01:15:37,680
saw it, maybe thought about it 
for a second rather than diving 

1446
01:15:37,680 --> 01:15:40,400
into the elite guys 'cause we 
don't have as much time as we 

1447
01:15:40,400 --> 01:15:42,880
need for that. 
And we did advertise this and we

1448
01:15:42,880 --> 01:15:45,400
did not go through the entire 
history of cocaine, cocaine or 

1449
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:46,880
what happened to the Edmonton 
Oilers. 

1450
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:53,360
Just to cut through to players 
that you're just like it a flat 

1451
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,120
0. 
Last week, Jacob, you were. 

1452
01:15:55,200 --> 01:15:58,080
Since you're up to speed here, 
you were talking about players 

1453
01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,200
that you never see when you put 
your rankings in. 

1454
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,240
They're just they never show up 
as options and you're probably 

1455
01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:06,040
at close to 0. 
What are your thoughts here? 

1456
01:16:07,280 --> 01:16:10,040
What what are my thoughts on 
just players that I'm at 0 on? 

1457
01:16:10,680 --> 01:16:12,800
Yeah, like who? 
Who might be a couple of the 

1458
01:16:14,520 --> 01:16:18,000
best players? 
So you pitch this in the in the 

1459
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:22,760
chat, I'm gonna expose our 
backroom discussions that are 

1460
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:26,800
that are otherwise subject to 
solicitor client privilege that 

1461
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:29,680
we were going to do a little, a 
little, a little game of raising

1462
01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:31,560
up. 
So I won't, I won't lead off of 

1463
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:37,680
my my top ones, but one guy I 
have not taken at all. 

1464
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:41,480
We've we've discussed him a 
little bit, but I've, I've been 

1465
01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:45,280
0% on James Cook so far this 
season. 

1466
01:16:45,280 --> 01:16:46,960
And that, that gets us into 
round 4. 

1467
01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:50,760
And that's just like partially 
structural reasons, which is 

1468
01:16:50,760 --> 01:16:55,240
that, you know, I'm, I'm trying 
to avoid running backs as much 

1469
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,400
as I can because there's so many
that I want. 

1470
01:16:58,080 --> 01:17:00,360
And then there's just other guys
that I like way more that go in 

1471
01:17:00,360 --> 01:17:02,400
a similar range. 
Like I'm, I'm never gonna click 

1472
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:05,960
him over Brief Hall. 
I'm never really gonna click him

1473
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,600
over Maureen Hampton. 
And that, that kind of ends the 

1474
01:17:08,600 --> 01:17:14,960
discussion. 
And I, I think like one thing 

1475
01:17:14,960 --> 01:17:20,000
that maybe gets misinterpreted 
online and, and like, if I say 

1476
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:23,280
I'm 0% on a guy, I think people 
sometimes take that as me being 

1477
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:25,800
like overly confident that I 
think there's a 0% chance the 

1478
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,400
guy can hit. 
That's not at all how I feel. 

1479
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,160
It's just that like, I'm going 
to be extremely lucky if I get 

1480
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:37,760
one team into the finals. 
So like, I would rather just 

1481
01:17:37,760 --> 01:17:40,840
make the bet that I think is 
better, even if I think it's not

1482
01:17:40,840 --> 01:17:44,160
better by that much every single
time. 

1483
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:46,000
And then I'm just going to hope 
that I'm right. 

1484
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,800
Like I'm not really worried 
about spreading out my bets in a

1485
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:50,840
game where I'm very lucky to 
have one team in the finals. 

1486
01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,480
So like, to me it's like, yeah, 
do I think some. 

1487
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:57,800
I don't really think that the 
idea I'm trying to explain this,

1488
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,760
a lot of people are like, well, 
if you think something is a 6040

1489
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,720
bat, why wouldn't you take it 
6040? 

1490
01:18:03,480 --> 01:18:06,040
And I'm like, that's reasonable.
But that's not really how this 

1491
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:07,520
tournament works. 
Like if I think something is a 

1492
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:11,680
6040 bat, I'm just taking the 60
side 100% of the time because I 

1493
01:18:11,680 --> 01:18:13,240
think that's the better bet. 
So I'm just going to make the 

1494
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:16,280
better bet as many times as I 
can because I'm pairing each of 

1495
01:18:16,280 --> 01:18:18,600
those with a completely 
different lineup that's going in

1496
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,800
a different pod. 
And then if I'm right, then I 

1497
01:18:21,800 --> 01:18:23,680
have more opportunities to win 
that bet. 

1498
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,200
I might be wrong, but we're all 
going to lose anyways. 

1499
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,560
So to me it's just whatever I 
think are the better bets, I'm 

1500
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:31,640
just going to make as often as 
possible and hope for the best. 

1501
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:36,800
Yeah, although sometimes those 
bets are different types of 

1502
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:39,520
bets, you know what I mean? 
Like so that the profiles are 

1503
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,000
different than. 
Yeah, because I'm I tend to be 

1504
01:18:43,000 --> 01:18:45,720
more if it's a 6040, I'm going 
to make some of that other bet 

1505
01:18:46,240 --> 01:18:47,560
you. 
Know completed drafts. 

1506
01:18:47,560 --> 01:18:51,640
I'm at 0% Cook also, but there's
one running back above him that 

1507
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:55,720
I also have 0%. 
Josh what? 

1508
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:59,520
Henry. 
Yeah, I'm at 0, Henry. 

1509
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:03,720
I don't really take. 0 Henry. 
I hate myself for it. 

1510
01:19:03,880 --> 01:19:05,040
It's. 
That's my highest draft. 

1511
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,720
One player zeros. 
I have. 

1512
01:19:06,880 --> 01:19:15,160
I have I have 1.7% Derek Henry. 
So are we a drain? 

1513
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,320
That's like negative. 
Yeah, on, on my scale, on my 

1514
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:21,040
scale, that's like a huge bid. 
That's yeah, that that's. 

1515
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:24,080
Davis has drafted 600 teams and 
has never taken 1. 

1516
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:30,760
I I was 0% Barkley, but I I got 
him recently at the one O 4 and 

1517
01:19:31,480 --> 01:19:32,720
and that's actually where I have
him ranked. 

1518
01:19:32,720 --> 01:19:36,360
So I I gave him the old click. 
So I now have one Sequin Barclay

1519
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:38,400
team. 
You see the five or six Barclays

1520
01:19:38,400 --> 01:19:39,960
once in a while. 
I have a couple of those two, 

1521
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:41,960
but that's about it. 
Never at two or three. 

1522
01:19:42,680 --> 01:19:45,840
All right, this is I. 
So this is totally unintentional

1523
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,120
and I'm going to fix this. 
Like literally I might do like 

1524
01:19:49,400 --> 01:19:51,280
10 drafts today to try and fix 
this. 

1525
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:53,880
And it's just a function of my 
rankings, I guess. 

1526
01:19:53,880 --> 01:19:57,720
And I just draft off my 
rankings, completed drafts. 

1527
01:19:57,720 --> 01:20:02,520
I only have 2.8% of neighbors, 
which makes sense. 

1528
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:06,560
Well, it makes sense if if I 
because I had McCaffrey ahead of

1529
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:09,920
him. 
So if you have McCaffrey ahead 

1530
01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:15,240
and then you're mostly just 
drafting off of your rankings, 

1531
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:20,600
you're you're one of those guys 
BTJ neighbors, whoever you are 

1532
01:20:20,600 --> 01:20:22,600
going to get, you're going to be
lighter on. 

1533
01:20:22,600 --> 01:20:26,320
So I'm going to fix that. 
Here's some other expensive guys

1534
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:32,080
I don't have very much of. 2.9% 
David Montgomery 2.9 James Cook 

1535
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:36,800
2.9 Two .9% Chuba Hubbard That's
a bit spicy for me. 

1536
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:41,360
That's that's pretty spicy. 
OK. 

1537
01:20:41,440 --> 01:20:43,880
There's there are a lot of there
are a lot of bad picks. 

1538
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:46,360
Well, I just I just. 
Like why are you out on Chuba? 

1539
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:48,840
So much more because I just like
Harvey more. 

1540
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:50,840
And you, you normally are 
choosing between them. 

1541
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:58,840
And I have I have Hubbard, 
Walker, Kamara, Henderson all 

1542
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,680
ranked back-to-back to back. 
So I probably am just doing a 

1543
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:08,320
bad job of RNG ING them. 
Is it stack related to maybe 

1544
01:21:08,520 --> 01:21:11,840
Chiefs? 
Well, no, you know what it is. 

1545
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:15,360
Well with neighbors, what it's 
related to is I am just a little

1546
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:17,680
bit light on him for stacking 
stuff. 

1547
01:21:18,480 --> 01:21:21,560
He he's, he's the only first 
round player who you don't know 

1548
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,280
who his quarterback is in Week 
17. 

1549
01:21:25,200 --> 01:21:27,400
Neighbors and Bowers is sitting 
there, I think. 

1550
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:30,280
I think we know who his 
quarterback is in Week 17. 

1551
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:33,800
Dart. 
Yeah. 

1552
01:21:33,800 --> 01:21:37,240
I mean like 90% probability. 
Do you guys draft art? 

1553
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:39,000
I draft art a lot. 
Maybe that's bad. 

1554
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,480
I draft Dart. 
No, I, I draft Dart, you know, 

1555
01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:46,200
you know where I'm drafting. 
Dart and Daniel Jones are like 

1556
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:54,600
the Giga Mega Slam skeleton keys
in the Superflex puppy, Daniel. 

1557
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:57,320
Daniel Jones is a tenth round 
flex in the Superflex puppy. 

1558
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:59,440
Jacob does that. 
Does that interest you at all? 

1559
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:07,520
I mean, I will never draft a 
superflex basketball team, but 

1560
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:11,360
if I did, Daniel Jones would be 
on all of. 

1561
01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:16,400
Them five U.S. dollars. 
Cortland Sutton and Zay Flowers 

1562
01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:21,360
I'm I'm pretty underweight on 
JSN here. 

1563
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:24,400
I'll put my name on one. 
I'll put my name on one that if 

1564
01:22:24,400 --> 01:22:28,360
I was a real man, I would have 
0% of JSN. 

1565
01:22:28,440 --> 01:22:31,040
He he's just a terrible fit for 
the scoring system. 

1566
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:35,640
He's got like giga offensive 
environment risk. 

1567
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:38,040
He's going ahead of Rushy Rice. 
He's going ahead of Xavier 

1568
01:22:38,040 --> 01:22:40,920
Worthy. 
I believe now he is back-to-back

1569
01:22:40,920 --> 01:22:43,520
in ADP with Tyreek Hill. 
And sure, maybe Tyreek is like 

1570
01:22:43,720 --> 01:22:48,160
the worst pick on the board, but
Tyreek has wide receiver like 

1571
01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:52,600
leads all the fantasy football 
and scoring upside JSN like what

1572
01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:54,520
is JSN? 
I guess just runs hot on 

1573
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:57,600
touchdowns for one year. 
That's how that's how he buries 

1574
01:22:57,600 --> 01:23:00,880
me. 
I, I feel like, I feel like that

1575
01:23:00,880 --> 01:23:04,680
is like a gigantic risk on on 
JSNI feel like his ADP is just 

1576
01:23:04,680 --> 01:23:07,560
clearly terrible. 
I have more mill row than dart. 

1577
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:10,520
There was a Scott Barrett tweet 
about the fantasy playoffs that 

1578
01:23:10,520 --> 01:23:13,240
had Darnold at the as the number
one quarterback. 

1579
01:23:13,320 --> 01:23:16,360
Some something over expected 
value and like that's a mill row

1580
01:23:16,600 --> 01:23:21,080
tweet right there. 
Those playoff weeks love that 

1581
01:23:21,080 --> 01:23:23,080
possibility. 
What if he's any good at all? 

1582
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:27,000
I mean Darnold gets buried and 
they put in mill row and it he 

1583
01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:30,280
just goes like maybe like that 
could be something. 

1584
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:33,280
I think Millro is the potential 
of Millro is a horrible, 

1585
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,800
horrible you. 
Know that's bad for JSN? 

1586
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:39,760
It's ominous as hell for James. 
For JSN it's like good for MVS. 

1587
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:43,880
Yeah, you don't want JSN and 
Millro is like, well there's 

1588
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:45,680
always next year, you know, 
like. 

1589
01:23:46,040 --> 01:23:47,280
That's it's, you know what it's 
like. 

1590
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:50,120
It's like, it's like having Josh
Downs with Richardson. 

1591
01:23:50,160 --> 01:23:53,160
It's just like, yeah, it's like,
it's like maybe, maybe. 

1592
01:23:53,160 --> 01:23:56,560
Richardson, make it. 
Out Yeah, yeah, I, I, I, I 

1593
01:23:56,640 --> 01:23:59,640
think. 
Imagine drafting Josh Downs in 

1594
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:02,680
the third. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1595
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:05,160
Oh yeah, I wish we could do that
because I think he's probably 

1596
01:24:05,160 --> 01:24:07,080
probably good enough to deserve 
it, but he'd have to be in a 

1597
01:24:07,080 --> 01:24:09,160
completely different situation, 
the three. 

1598
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:15,120
Years when when the Colts employ
like 38 year old Geno Smith. 

1599
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:19,200
Book it also, we'll probably be 
against it because he'll be kind

1600
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:21,880
of old then and you know, it's 
yards per hour on the climb 

1601
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,600
slightly and we're like. 
He'll be on a boat he'll be on. 

1602
01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:28,400
A He'll be on a boat once. 
We had a boat once. 

1603
01:24:29,440 --> 01:24:32,440
I'll be, I'll be in my 30s by 
then, so I'll be, I'll be in my 

1604
01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:34,880
Davis era. 
I'll just be 8.3% of everyone. 

1605
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,440
Yeah, OK. 
No it won't. 

1606
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:40,120
It won't matter to you. 
The only reason why I have to do

1607
01:24:40,120 --> 01:24:45,480
this is like doing 500 recorded 
best ball drafts in front of an 

1608
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:47,600
audience and then having them go
as bad as possible. 

1609
01:24:48,640 --> 01:24:50,240
I wouldn't wish it on anyone 
really. 

1610
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,400
I mean I I once was like in in a
live theatrical production of 

1611
01:24:54,400 --> 01:24:58,520
The Sound of Music when I was 
like 9 and I peed myself on 

1612
01:24:58,520 --> 01:25:01,320
stage in front of like over 1000
people. 

1613
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:02,400
Oh, I'd rather do that. 
You can. 

1614
01:25:02,440 --> 01:25:05,440
Get over if you can get over 
that, you can get over anything.

1615
01:25:05,480 --> 01:25:07,880
So like to me it's like I don't 
have a shame complex. 

1616
01:25:07,880 --> 01:25:09,720
Was this a school? 
Was this a school play? 

1617
01:25:10,600 --> 01:25:14,400
No, it was not a school play. 
It was it was called Rainbow 

1618
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:18,640
Stage in Winnipeg, MB. 
It's a lovely outdoor theater. 

1619
01:25:19,400 --> 01:25:22,360
And they were like no like 
probably like 2000 adults 

1620
01:25:22,360 --> 01:25:23,400
watching. 
I don't know if all of them 

1621
01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,680
noticed. 
How many? 

1622
01:25:25,680 --> 01:25:28,120
Kids like the leader Hosen was 
like kind of like a vaguely 

1623
01:25:28,120 --> 01:25:30,600
yellow color. 
How many kids were there? 

1624
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:32,680
How many like? 
Kids in the show. 

1625
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:36,360
In the show, did you like go to 
school with like, did this 

1626
01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:38,520
follow you to your school is 
what I'm saying? 

1627
01:25:38,760 --> 01:25:40,440
Is it not at all? 
Or is it not at all? 

1628
01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,840
I'm not a. 
Single person, that's Yeah, it 

1629
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:44,560
could. 
Have been I'm a little I'm 

1630
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:46,640
trying to catch up. 
I'm trying to catch up from the 

1631
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:48,800
from the hamlet segment. 
Can I guess your role? 

1632
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,680
Well, I was 9, so if you can't 
guess my role, you've never seen

1633
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,520
The Sound of Music. 
A little kid. 

1634
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,560
All right. 
Now you were not Rolf, OK. 

1635
01:25:56,600 --> 01:25:59,680
That's I was actually Rolf in 
high school in grade 11. 

1636
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:02,240
My son was. 
Rolf and he's on his way down. 

1637
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:04,160
He was Rolf and he's on his way 
down. 

1638
01:26:04,160 --> 01:26:06,680
So you know, just. 
I mean like in like 20 years 

1639
01:26:06,720 --> 01:26:10,080
maybe I will be Max or the 
Captain. 

1640
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:12,720
But we started as Kurt. 
We upgraded to Rolf. 

1641
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,560
Kurt, we have a Rolf off. 
Shout out to ghost cards. 

1642
01:26:16,640 --> 01:26:18,680
I was born to piss yellow. 
That that is true. 

1643
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:21,920
Really pissed in yellow since 
nine years old. 

1644
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:26,360
Around the same, around the 
steam age, I, I, for some 

1645
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:30,480
reason, I think I had like, I 
don't know what I was doing, but

1646
01:26:30,480 --> 01:26:35,120
I at the time we lived in a 
house where the basement was 

1647
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:38,240
like downstairs behind the, so 
you walk down the stairs, the 

1648
01:26:38,240 --> 01:26:41,160
front doors right there and then
basically behind that you go 

1649
01:26:41,160 --> 01:26:44,200
down to the basement stairs. 
And I went down and I think I 

1650
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:47,360
must have like had dirty clothes
that I wanted to drop off down 

1651
01:26:47,360 --> 01:26:49,640
the basement for something. 
So I'm coming up from the 

1652
01:26:49,640 --> 01:26:56,600
basement and I'm buck naked and 
it is importantly Halloween. 

1653
01:26:56,600 --> 01:27:04,120
And so I, I come back to to the 
front door as I'm like 9 years 

1654
01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:10,160
old, my little naked body like a
group of teenage girls were at 

1655
01:27:10,160 --> 01:27:13,520
our like, like, you know, rang 
the bell to trick or treat and 

1656
01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:17,200
we have a glass front door. 
So I that was my scarring moment

1657
01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:20,080
at the time. 
But you know, I recover from 

1658
01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:23,000
that. 
Just quickly, my son Julius is 

1659
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:24,320
here. 
We're talking about Rolf and the

1660
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:25,520
Sound of Music just now. 
And he. 

1661
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:27,720
Come on, Lena. 
And any particular memories of 

1662
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:29,720
playing Rolf real quick? 
They really changed the 

1663
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:33,080
character for me when I. 
They did change the character 

1664
01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:34,400
for Julius. 
They wrote it a little bit 

1665
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:36,400
differently for Julius in his 
production. 

1666
01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:39,440
So. 
Good. 

1667
01:27:39,440 --> 01:27:41,680
You learn something new every 
day in ADP chasing, yeah? 

1668
01:27:42,640 --> 01:27:45,240
You do, you do we're. 
Doing a lot of kid chasing 

1669
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:49,760
today. 
Kid chasing there it is just 

1670
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,680
back from Wells, Jacob, you 
know. 

1671
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:55,840
Why is why is Jalen Knoll 
falling? 

1672
01:27:56,040 --> 01:28:00,640
What would what would the what 
would the reason for Knoll 

1673
01:28:00,640 --> 01:28:02,560
falling be? 
Just while we're here. 

1674
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,360
Generally people are not 
drafting as many rookies. 

1675
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,800
Yeah, I think that's. 
They're scared. 

1676
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,720
It's. 
Kind of a universal slide on 

1677
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,560
rookies other than Pat Bryant, 
But like, we're seeing like, 

1678
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:17,720
look at this list, right? 
Samson, Neil, Noel, Burden, Iron

1679
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,600
Man or Royals? 
This is the this is the, this is

1680
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:23,600
the Michael Leone. 
We're all trying to find the guy

1681
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:26,200
who did this. 
Why do rookies go later in June 

1682
01:28:26,720 --> 01:28:30,400
situation? 
They're going to keep falling 

1683
01:28:30,400 --> 01:28:34,280
until they get news like they'll
if they get training camp pipe, 

1684
01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:37,720
they'll, they'll move up a bit. 
Everyone, everyone one day will 

1685
01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,400
just wake up. 
Like they pop out of their their

1686
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:44,040
matrix pod, their eyes pop open 
and they're like, wait, he's 

1687
01:28:44,040 --> 01:28:47,520
only behind Christian Kirk? 
Yeah. 

1688
01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,960
He he just, he just has to fade 
a perfect health season from 

1689
01:28:52,200 --> 01:28:55,680
Christian Kirk who just was cut,
then not cut, then traded for a 

1690
01:28:55,680 --> 01:29:03,160
conditional 7th. 
So my, some of my guys, I, I 

1691
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:07,760
looked at JSN and I'm at 5%, but
I was like, you know, one of the

1692
01:29:07,760 --> 01:29:09,400
reasons is because Garrett 
Wilson's there. 

1693
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:12,440
But I looked I've drafted 
Garrett Wilson once, which is 

1694
01:29:12,440 --> 01:29:14,280
the one of those things where 
I've taken them plenty in the 

1695
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,160
big board. 
So it's like I think I've 

1696
01:29:16,160 --> 01:29:17,360
drafted them, but I just 
haven't. 

1697
01:29:17,560 --> 01:29:21,080
I haven't drafted as much as I 
normally do to this point. 

1698
01:29:21,080 --> 01:29:23,160
I'm going to, I'm going to start
cranking some drafts in here. 

1699
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:27,680
But yeah, that's one where I'm 
I'm like, don't feel great about

1700
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:30,000
that. 
It's it's kind of similar to 

1701
01:29:30,000 --> 01:29:32,000
Davis's neighbors one where I'm 
like, oh, I don't love that. 

1702
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,960
But it is, I guess, a reminder 
of how good a pick Rice is, 

1703
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,960
because I'm guessing every time 
I see Wilson, else goes, right, 

1704
01:29:38,960 --> 01:29:40,640
Yeah. 
I was going to ask, what's your 

1705
01:29:40,640 --> 01:29:43,440
Rice and McBride exposure that 
feels Yeah, that. 

1706
01:29:43,440 --> 01:29:47,960
Well, that's in for your. 
Let's see, Rice, I'm at 18. 

1707
01:29:48,000 --> 01:29:51,440
Wish that was higher, honestly. 
And then McBride, I'm at 21. 

1708
01:29:51,480 --> 01:29:53,880
Ricky numbers brother. 
I know, I know. 

1709
01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:56,280
I have. 
I have more Garrett Wilson than 

1710
01:29:56,280 --> 01:29:57,760
Rushy Rice. 
I just looked. 

1711
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:03,480
Wow, wow man, let's. 
Become of you, I am. 23 McBride.

1712
01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:08,720
18% Garrett Wilson actually, but
I have 25% Rishi Rice. 

1713
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:12,880
Everyone. 
Everyone's just Lucy in football

1714
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:13,920
in Kansas. 
City Who do I not? 

1715
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:16,680
Have surely, surely this will be
the time that Andy Reid and met 

1716
01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:18,120
Meg. 
You don't take the ball away. 

1717
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,080
No, this is the beauty of rice. 
Like the Chiefs can be boring 

1718
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:26,400
and Rice is is going to work 
within the Chiefs being boring. 

1719
01:30:28,080 --> 01:30:30,480
Yeah, all right, let's do. 
Let's do our raunchy picks. 

1720
01:30:30,480 --> 01:30:33,120
Because it's actually a bat on 
the chief being boring. 

1721
01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:34,880
That was our raunchy picks, 
yeah. 

1722
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:36,600
When? 
We do kind of, unless you want 

1723
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,360
to consider last, last call 
raunchy picks, which it is well.

1724
01:30:40,040 --> 01:30:41,920
Yeah, it's kind of it is kind. 
Of I'll call it a different 

1725
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,440
style of raunchy. 
Yeah, I thought I'd learned from

1726
01:30:44,440 --> 01:30:46,680
you guys maybe the last few days
that nobody says raunchy 

1727
01:30:46,680 --> 01:30:48,240
anymore. 
Like, raunchy's a little bit 

1728
01:30:48,240 --> 01:30:49,600
sexual. 
Raunchy. 

1729
01:30:49,600 --> 01:30:50,640
Sexual. 
Gross. 

1730
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:52,520
Yeah, raunchy. 
Sexual, that's why. 

1731
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:56,400
I was very confused of seeing. 
Group chat about what you were 

1732
01:30:56,400 --> 01:30:59,920
going for with raunchy but. 
You know, disgusting, gross, 

1733
01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:03,800
raunchy, obscene. 
To me, raunchy is like a like, 

1734
01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:06,680
if I'm thinking of a raunchy 
pick, it's like a pick that I, I

1735
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:10,480
know better and I shouldn't be 
into this and I'm kind of afraid

1736
01:31:10,480 --> 01:31:12,320
to admit it, but I actually am 
into it. 

1737
01:31:12,320 --> 01:31:14,360
That'd be like to me like a 
raunchy pick. 

1738
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:20,400
Cause like isn't is raunchy and 
kinky like that different? 

1739
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,560
No raunchy's like overt 
raunchy's like kind of over the 

1740
01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:29,080
top raunchy's like a 90s. 
Like, like, you know, like 

1741
01:31:29,080 --> 01:31:31,480
vulgar trip. 
Is Euro trips raunchy? 

1742
01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:33,600
You know what I mean? 
Like those types of movies? 

1743
01:31:34,240 --> 01:31:37,000
Earthy. 
Who's a raunchy best ball pick 

1744
01:31:37,000 --> 01:31:39,000
then, pal? 
Earthy's a different, I think. 

1745
01:31:39,880 --> 01:31:41,800
It's the first word. 
It's the first word on the 

1746
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:43,600
definition. 
I almost think a raunchy best 

1747
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,160
ball. 
I I think a raunchy best ball 

1748
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:48,000
pick would be 1 actually, that 
you are really high on that, 

1749
01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,600
that there's like a, it's like 
a, a stand that you shouldn't 

1750
01:31:50,600 --> 01:31:54,160
have like a like a hole. 
OK, that's a stand. 

1751
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:55,680
No, I just do. 
You OK? 

1752
01:31:55,800 --> 01:31:59,160
You're comfortable with that? 
That's what I would do is my is 

1753
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:03,360
my 30% Travis Hunter raunchy? 
Yes, that's a raunchy pick. 

1754
01:32:03,640 --> 01:32:05,440
That's a very raunchy pick. 
Yes, all. 

1755
01:32:05,560 --> 01:32:07,240
Right. 
OK, OK, so someone in the. 

1756
01:32:07,240 --> 01:32:09,680
That's how to waste like. 
They said American Pie is right,

1757
01:32:09,720 --> 01:32:12,080
so it's like American Pie. 
Yeah, American Pie. 

1758
01:32:12,080 --> 01:32:14,160
That's a. 
Raunchy and then like eyes wide 

1759
01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:17,640
shot is kinky. 
I think that's correct. 

1760
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:19,880
OK, I. 
Think that's correct? 

1761
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:21,280
I think that's all right. 
I'm. 

1762
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,640
Glad. 
We've seen seen none of these 

1763
01:32:24,640 --> 01:32:30,280
films. 
Words evolve. 

1764
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,240
Film. 
Film I've been meeting Infinite 

1765
01:32:33,240 --> 01:32:36,440
Jazz for the 17th time when I've
one shot came out so. 

1766
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:39,160
Which movie would Davis like 
more of the two? 

1767
01:32:41,080 --> 01:32:44,000
Of American Pie, I'm sure. 
American Pie, Yeah. 

1768
01:32:44,600 --> 01:32:46,200
Really. 
I don't think so. 

1769
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:47,440
I would pick the. 
Other one no. 

1770
01:32:47,960 --> 01:32:49,480
I think it's like Eyes Wide Shut
more. 

1771
01:32:49,480 --> 01:32:51,040
I'm not sure you would like 
American Pie. 

1772
01:32:51,440 --> 01:32:52,760
Yeah, you'd think it was 
terrible. 

1773
01:32:53,760 --> 01:32:57,440
I mean, probably. 
Yeah, I mean, it's, it's a movie

1774
01:32:57,440 --> 01:32:59,760
of it's time, you know, it's. 
You're too old for it now. 

1775
01:32:59,960 --> 01:33:02,360
You're too old for it. 
Now is there is there any split 

1776
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:09,120
diopter in either film? 
I'll just guess no, not knowing 

1777
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:10,720
what that means, I. 
Don't even know what a split 

1778
01:33:10,720 --> 01:33:12,320
diopter. 
Is a split diopter. 

1779
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,560
Is like the OK? 
I mean, it's neither here nor 

1780
01:33:14,760 --> 01:33:16,800
with. 
Yeah, this isn't Eyes Wide Shut 

1781
01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:19,280
takes itself more seriously, if 
that's what you're asking. 

1782
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:20,320
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1783
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:22,160
Definitely. 
I mean, it's hard not it's hard 

1784
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:26,600
to take yourself less seriously 
than American Pie, but yeah. 

1785
01:33:27,040 --> 01:33:30,400
There's nudity in both. 
I didn't, I didn't have time to 

1786
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:34,080
see either movie because I've 
seen, I've seen Heat like 19 

1787
01:33:34,080 --> 01:33:36,480
times and that's like a. 
Full you can't in between heat 

1788
01:33:36,520 --> 01:33:37,680
you always you couldn't squeeze 
it in. 

1789
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:40,240
Let me There's nudity in both. 
One more. 

1790
01:33:41,200 --> 01:33:44,160
Maybe not on the level of the 
Ponderosa Nudist Family Resort 

1791
01:33:44,160 --> 01:33:47,280
in Guelph ON Jacob, but that's 
for another conversation as 

1792
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:47,920
well. 
Pat. 

1793
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,240
Let me squeeze in one more guy 
that that I literally have not 

1794
01:33:51,240 --> 01:33:53,680
drafted and we've talked about 
before, but I just want to do 

1795
01:33:53,680 --> 01:33:57,080
the check in on Jameson 
Williams, who is who is making 

1796
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,320
me increasingly nervous. 
OK, I just want you to 

1797
01:33:59,320 --> 01:34:00,520
understand where I'm coming from
here. 

1798
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:05,240
I don't like the vibes. 
The vibes seem very positive, 

1799
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,800
but I'm just like, you know, 
there was a graphic that I saw 

1800
01:34:08,800 --> 01:34:11,800
on Twitter that was like, you 
know, it was one of those things

1801
01:34:11,800 --> 01:34:14,960
was like starting in a totally 
random week. 

1802
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:16,600
Not a good week, definitely not 
a good week. 

1803
01:34:16,600 --> 01:34:19,760
That makes this stat better. 
He, you know, from this week to 

1804
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:23,040
the end of the season, he was 
the wide receiver 22. 

1805
01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:27,720
Like that's not very high. 
And then he's like the way he's 

1806
01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:30,280
going with the wide receiver 26.
So, you know, I guess you're 

1807
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:31,560
getting a little discount on 
that you. 

1808
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,280
You guys. 
You're getting all this hype and

1809
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:36,480
it's making me nervous. 
It's, it's making me nervous. 

1810
01:34:36,480 --> 01:34:39,200
I I will admit. 
Where's the hype coming from? 

1811
01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,440
That's not Davis. 
Like, is their hype coming? 

1812
01:34:41,440 --> 01:34:42,160
The. 
Coaches. 

1813
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:43,520
The coaches talking about. 
Them. 

1814
01:34:44,040 --> 01:34:48,040
They will not, they will not 
stop talking because I think if 

1815
01:34:48,040 --> 01:34:50,480
you're looking, if you as a 
coach are trying to do some 

1816
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:52,760
problem solving, OK, our 
offensive line's not going to be

1817
01:34:52,760 --> 01:34:55,200
as good this year. 
We're losing Ben Johnson. 

1818
01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:56,720
We're kind of trying to 
reconfigure things on the our. 

1819
01:34:56,720 --> 01:34:58,520
Whole line's going to be bad, so
we're going to have a lot of 

1820
01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:00,600
time for Jared Goff to find his 
deep threat. 

1821
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:07,880
I think, I think you are. 
I think I would just, I would 

1822
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:13,400
encourage you, I would encourage
you to, to open your mind, just 

1823
01:35:13,400 --> 01:35:15,840
the snitch. 
There is there is like not only 

1824
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:19,800
do I have 0% Jameson Williams, 
there is a 0% chance that I will

1825
01:35:19,800 --> 01:35:23,720
ever have Jameson Williams, man 
not it's not gonna happen. 

1826
01:35:24,280 --> 01:35:27,400
Your two favorite players I 
actually like you're you're 

1827
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:30,640
you're worthy love. 
I I don't have 0% Xavier worthy.

1828
01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:33,720
I I won't have a lot, but I do 
take him occasionally. 

1829
01:35:34,440 --> 01:35:38,400
The chances that I draft Jameson
Williams or DJ Moore this year? 

1830
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:43,560
Subterranean. 
Yeah, DJ Moore is a 0 for me as 

1831
01:35:43,560 --> 01:35:46,360
well. 
Vibes, by the way. 

1832
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,520
I mean, he's like basically 
going where Hunter and Ted go 

1833
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:52,320
and like, that's right. 
The idea that I would take a 

1834
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:55,760
player who has a career high of 
90 targets in three years. 

1835
01:35:57,320 --> 01:36:02,520
That right there is the most 
fake stat that is so absurd fake

1836
01:36:02,560 --> 01:36:08,280
thing it's OK that is that is a 
lying lying with truth right 

1837
01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:09,720
there you. 
Lying with truth. 

1838
01:36:09,880 --> 01:36:14,200
Jacob lying. 
With truth, so elite, elite you 

1839
01:36:14,200 --> 01:36:16,840
lying with truth. 
Is Davis's Liquid 82 cover 

1840
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,040
band's name. 
Here, Here's what I would like 

1841
01:36:19,040 --> 01:36:22,640
to I would like to propose a 
deal, Davis. 

1842
01:36:22,800 --> 01:36:25,920
Every time you watch American 
Pie this summer, I will draft 

1843
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,160
Jameson Williams and Jacob will 
draft DJ Moore. 

1844
01:36:29,600 --> 01:36:32,280
It's not going to happen. 
You can't watch it more than 

1845
01:36:32,280 --> 01:36:32,640
once. 
I can't. 

1846
01:36:32,680 --> 01:36:34,280
Agree to that. 
Deal you can't watch. 

1847
01:36:34,280 --> 01:36:37,440
It like I'm only going to have 
about 427 drafts this year. 

1848
01:36:37,440 --> 01:36:39,280
I can't soil one of those with 
DJ Moore. 

1849
01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:44,560
I I think I've truly watched one
movie in 2025 and I rewatched 

1850
01:36:44,640 --> 01:36:47,840
Fellowship of the Ring I 
believe. 

1851
01:36:48,640 --> 01:36:51,080
I believe that's literally the 
only movie I've watched this 

1852
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:52,280
year. 
Have you guys seen French? 

1853
01:36:53,680 --> 01:36:56,000
No, no. 
But I I would go see friendship.

1854
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:57,920
I I really like Tim Robbins. 
Incredible movie. 

1855
01:36:57,920 --> 01:37:00,520
I haven't seen it. 
Yeah, nobody has ever watched 

1856
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:02,520
American Pie and said to 
themselves, I'm going to watch 

1857
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,040
that again. 
Yeah. 

1858
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,040
Watch the sequel. 
If he wants me to draft. 

1859
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:08,880
I think every member. 
Of the sequel has to count Pat 

1860
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:11,280
the. 
Sequel counts any American Pride

1861
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,200
franchise. 
Any of the sequels like if? 

1862
01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:15,560
There's I mean, the sequels are 
worse. 

1863
01:37:15,680 --> 01:37:18,120
So that's that's not I mean. 
Usually yes. 

1864
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:20,760
Last call hire. 
With passionate love. 

1865
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,080
Last call. 
Oh yeah, I got out of the come 

1866
01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:25,720
up story. 
June 2 by the June OH. 

1867
01:37:25,720 --> 01:37:26,880
That's how these slides we 
didn't use. 

1868
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:31,440
I know we Let's go. 
This show has a unfortunate 

1869
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:34,800
reputation for being cut short 
it really doesn't deserve. 

1870
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,280
That well it's a 5 hour show 
that we never we never seem to 

1871
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,080
get to the full length so. 
No, we I'm trying to. 

1872
01:37:40,160 --> 01:37:42,280
Figure out if I'm I'm trying to 
figure out if I've already taken

1873
01:37:42,280 --> 01:37:46,600
this guy. 
Last call, so I've got a name if

1874
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:48,160
you wanted. 
I'm happy to go last. 

1875
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,960
It's sort of been falling. 
Lately this week because I need 

1876
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:53,400
to go last. 
I'll go, I'll go first 'cause 

1877
01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,680
mine's easy. 
I believe he's undrafted in this

1878
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,920
exercise, yet I can't believe 
I've not taken him yet. 

1879
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:05,040
Ty Felton. 
Ty Felton again, People just did

1880
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,360
not realize he was a third round
pick because he was the last 

1881
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,320
pick of the third round. 
Everyone went to sleep and was 

1882
01:38:09,320 --> 01:38:14,080
off doing something else. 
He's like a, a deep, a deep 

1883
01:38:14,080 --> 01:38:16,840
threat. 
Awesome. 

1884
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:19,280
I mean, he's not awesome. 
He was a pretty good wide 

1885
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:23,560
receiver at Maryland but he he 
just is in the nutted spot where

1886
01:38:23,560 --> 01:38:25,800
he can just run. 
Like he can just accidentally 

1887
01:38:25,800 --> 01:38:28,720
run into 7 touchdowns because of
who he plays with. 

1888
01:38:28,720 --> 01:38:31,680
Like what if instead of Jordan 
Addison getting all the free 

1889
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,760
Justin Jefferson created 
touchdowns they go to someone 

1890
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,160
else? 
So Ty, Ty Felton. 

1891
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,480
He's the new actually Osbourne 
Plus. 

1892
01:38:40,200 --> 01:38:42,840
Literally. 
Yeah, yeah, I actually do have 

1893
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:47,120
one. 
Just making sure he hasn't been 

1894
01:38:47,120 --> 01:38:49,160
taken. 
It's really hard that we can't 

1895
01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:51,880
command F on this slide. 
Devin Neil. 

1896
01:38:52,520 --> 01:38:55,360
Fine. 
Aren't you? 

1897
01:38:55,480 --> 01:38:56,600
Aren't you worried bro? 
Aren't. 

1898
01:38:56,920 --> 01:38:58,160
You aren't. 
You just fell in the two 

1899
01:38:58,160 --> 01:38:59,240
hundreds. 
Oh, he just. 

1900
01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,480
Fell in the two hundreds. 
Yeah, yeah, I'm a little. 

1901
01:39:02,480 --> 01:39:03,640
Worried he's made it, done his 
homework. 

1902
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:06,280
I've got time, I've done his. 
Homework on last. 

1903
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:10,720
Call, you can tell it, but 
clearly I filtered seconds ago 

1904
01:39:10,720 --> 01:39:11,960
and said, oh, Devin Neil's in 
two. 

1905
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:13,520
Hundreds on the plane across 
country. 

1906
01:39:13,520 --> 01:39:15,560
He's like, yeah, 2. 100. 
Mine. 

1907
01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,440
Yeah, good. 
Am I misreading this? 

1908
01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,040
I'm staring at this thing and 
I'm pretty sure I don't see 

1909
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,120
Miles Sanders's name. 
Is he not on this? 

1910
01:39:24,120 --> 01:39:26,320
Do you not drafted him? 
Take him well. 

1911
01:39:26,720 --> 01:39:28,960
I'm surprised that we haven't, 
or I'm surprised that I haven't 

1912
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,080
because I have like 25. 
Percent yeah, I feel like I 

1913
01:39:31,080 --> 01:39:34,920
maybe wanted to take him, but. 
Didn't, but it looks like he's 

1914
01:39:34,920 --> 01:39:36,680
not on the list so I'm going to 
take him now. 

1915
01:39:37,480 --> 01:39:41,440
I think he will lead the Dallas 
Cowboys in fantasy points this 

1916
01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:45,600
year at the running back 
position. 214. 

1917
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,840
That's more of a 2025 Davis 
Maddock take than a Jacob 

1918
01:39:48,840 --> 01:39:51,480
Sanderson take. 
Look, that's my raunchy stand. 

1919
01:39:51,560 --> 01:39:55,200
My my actual raunchiest stand is
25% mile Sanders. 

1920
01:39:55,200 --> 01:40:01,200
I think that's it is gross, but 
I'm I'm proud to proud to admit 

1921
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:02,160
that. 
You might. 

1922
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,520
Have one one boomer stand. 
I feel like that's the only 

1923
01:40:04,520 --> 01:40:07,280
thing that maybe the chat will 
actually get behind me on is the

1924
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:11,160
is the mile Sanders take because
I don't understand how Travis 

1925
01:40:11,160 --> 01:40:14,000
Hunter even has an ADP if you 
based off of our YouTube chat. 

1926
01:40:14,000 --> 01:40:16,200
Like you know, every single 
person that's ever watched this 

1927
01:40:16,200 --> 01:40:20,840
show live has not not drafted 
him, but people I'm sure can get

1928
01:40:20,840 --> 01:40:23,520
more behind the really bad 28 
year old running back that I 

1929
01:40:23,520 --> 01:40:27,080
take a lot of. 
You said you had 25%, Sanders. 

1930
01:40:27,200 --> 01:40:30,240
I have 25% milestone. 
OK, you have me beat then. 

1931
01:40:31,640 --> 01:40:35,280
I mean, you got 5. 
That's probably more 

1932
01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:38,160
responsible. 
Oh, actually I did a few. 

1933
01:40:38,240 --> 01:40:40,080
I did a few more drafts 
recently. 

1934
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:42,120
So he's up to 27. 
I like it. 

1935
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,840
We'll see why these slow. 
I'm in 30. 6 This actually this 

1936
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:51,000
actually is a good a good pick 
for this game strong. 

1937
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,600
And I will since I'm last. 
Year I It is a good pick. 

1938
01:40:55,440 --> 01:40:58,200
I will not take Gabe Davis 
visiting with the Steelers. 

1939
01:40:58,200 --> 01:41:00,400
Instead, I will take my guy 
Keaton Mitchell. 

1940
01:41:00,760 --> 01:41:02,440
I just really like Keaton 
Mitchell. 

1941
01:41:02,440 --> 01:41:05,600
I'm not drafting Henry, and if 
he's healthy, let's go. 

1942
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:07,640
It's just. 
Nice. 

1943
01:41:07,840 --> 01:41:09,200
There's a. 
There's a lot there. 

1944
01:41:09,480 --> 01:41:11,840
Did you see the hype on him? 
He said he feels like 2023 

1945
01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:13,720
again. 
Yeah. 

1946
01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:15,000
Is that good? 
That's probably good. 

1947
01:41:15,000 --> 01:41:17,960
I'd rather hear like 2021. 
Definitely better that he feels 

1948
01:41:17,960 --> 01:41:21,200
like 2023 than 2020. 424 yeah, 
that's definitely right. 

1949
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,480
Younger, the early, older, the 
better. 

1950
01:41:23,480 --> 01:41:26,560
Earlier the better. 
All right, there's last call for

1951
01:41:26,560 --> 01:41:29,400
this week. 
Have at it, guys. 

1952
01:41:29,400 --> 01:41:32,280
Jacob and Davis, you going 
somewhere together here today? 

1953
01:41:33,480 --> 01:41:35,400
No, I'm I'm for me right after 
this. 

1954
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:39,080
It's going to work, Dave. 
You're not going to a law firm 

1955
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:41,600
in Vancouver or British 
Columbia, Canada right now. 

1956
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,640
No, I'm going. 
I'm going to my work, which is 

1957
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:47,800
talking more about fantasy 
football and a different fantasy

1958
01:41:47,800 --> 01:41:49,680
football show. 
Although, to be fair, we 

1959
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:51,600
probably won't talk about 
fantasy football on that show. 

1960
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:55,160
Love it, I already mentioned. 
Football on this show we we've 

1961
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:56,920
talked about 90s movies talking 
about. 

1962
01:41:56,920 --> 01:41:59,160
That's fair. 
That's kids are showing up. 

1963
01:41:59,440 --> 01:42:03,520
Just quote unprompted. 
The drugs in the California 

1964
01:42:03,520 --> 01:42:06,720
house scene. 
Just so much you got to you got 

1965
01:42:06,800 --> 01:42:09,000
to hopefully people appreciate 
that from us. 

1966
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:11,480
We hopefully we give them enough
football content. 

1967
01:42:11,480 --> 01:42:14,320
I'm just saying that to myself. 
I already mentioned before we 

1968
01:42:14,320 --> 01:42:18,040
get to Pat Rich rebar today, Ian
Hart, it's tomorrow. 

1969
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:22,600
We've got a lot of guys you guys
listen to and I mean, you know, 

1970
01:42:22,680 --> 01:42:27,200
if not yourselves, viewers and 
listeners in the fantasy space. 

1971
01:42:27,920 --> 01:42:33,480
And that'll be on the Odyssey 
app, wgr550.com in Buffalo, Pat.

1972
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,960
Yeah, so as Jacob mentioned, I 
got an article out last week 

1973
01:42:37,960 --> 01:42:42,040
that was looking at the draft 
landscape kind of round by round

1974
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:46,360
draft game plan that I also 
narrate for Legendary Upside 

1975
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:48,120
Premium subscribers to check 
that out. 

1976
01:42:49,120 --> 01:42:51,040
Matt Irby should have a post on 
the site this week. 

1977
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,240
We're going to launch some 
rankings for FFPC. 

1978
01:42:54,240 --> 01:42:56,360
I'm going to get the eliminated 
rankings out this week. 

1979
01:42:56,960 --> 01:43:02,920
Look for that and then going to 
be drafting and streaming with 

1980
01:43:03,680 --> 01:43:07,760
with Shady and Sacrilegious this
week. 

1981
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:10,600
Might be today, tomorrow in that
range. 

1982
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,400
Got some cool stuff to talk 
through with them. 

1983
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:18,120
Some some some announcements, 
some teasers for stuff that 

1984
01:43:18,120 --> 01:43:20,160
we're doing this summer with 
those dudes. 

1985
01:43:21,480 --> 01:43:27,560
Very good go Oilers. 
Thanks for hockey quota box 

1986
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:28,840
checked. 
Thanks for watching and 

1987
01:43:28,840 --> 01:43:31,120
listening today. 
ADP Chasing Mike Pat, Jacob 

1988
01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:32,240
Davis. 
See you next week.

