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Hi there from Foggy Buffalo, I'm
Mike Shope AKA Kenny Utah. 

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Thanks for joining us here on 
ADP Chasing. 

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Our heroes are in position, 
Davis and Jacob. 

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We will talk about all the news 
going on right now around the 

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NFL. 
There's a ton of it and I'll be 

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sure to keep everybody posted on
the Sharks Sabres game, March 

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10th, 2026. 
This is ADP Chasing. 

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Welcome. 
ADP chasing is for When you 

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watch ship chasing, you go. 
These guys are just football 

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guys. 
I. 

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Have my 4% exposure blanket to 
stay poor actually. 

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Back in if it's Ashanek. 
It's Kerador crystal ball. 

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Close your eyes, you know all 
your entries are going to lose 

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anyway. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

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You're not. 
Going to tell me how this went I

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was here it's. 
Anti cabal. 

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It's anti the best ball thought 
leader. 

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I'm obviously lying to some 
degree because like, I have a 

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lot of both of these guys. 
It's the most disgusting thing 

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you can make, but. 
Man. 

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I forget if you told me, is 
there an actual Kenny Utah or 

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was that just like a DJ Dallas? 
It was an RJ Maryland, RJ 

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Maryland, and then Johnny Utah 
of course is the point Break 

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character if he was 1/4 former 
college quarterback in the lore 

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of that movie. 
So of course, sort of a double, 

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you know, double clue. 
It was made-up if you're 

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familiar with RJ Maryland, which
I I assumed you weren't. 

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I'm familiar with DJ Dallas, who
was a real person that. 

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Dole, That's true. 
Scored on a kickoff return week 

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one at the Bills for. 
Arizona buddy DJ Dallas was 

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getting carries over by Shell 
Tooton last year. 

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Oh great, already to him. 
Well. 

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How many week carries did he get
last year? 

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Like 3. 
Do you remember? 

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Do you remember the week that by
Shell, Tooton was listed without

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an ankle injury? 
But yeah, yeah, that was the 

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week after I thought he broke 
his ankle and and was very, very

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sad right when he was about to 
break out. 

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So I was I was willing to accept
that rug pull. 

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Oh, we're back now, baby. 
We're we certainly are. 

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Are we all the way back? 
Are we all the way back? 

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Jacob on Tootin. 
We're all the way back. 

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I think we're all the way back. 
I mean there are there are still

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players they could sign. 
I assume they won't go into the 

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season with the depth chart of 
Tooten, Laquint Allen and DJ 

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Dallas. 
But anyone who would actually 

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get me to stop clicking the 
button is long, long gone. 

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Like they didn't re sign ETN. 
They didn't go for Walker, they 

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didn't go for Dowdle, they 
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So like the the most threatening
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who I actually hope they signed 
because it would keep the price 

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in check and I don't. 
He's just Laquint Allen again. 

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Exactly he's he's to me just 
like a a more name brand La 

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Quint. 
I don't fear him at all for for 

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Tooting if he's good I. 
Agree, I kind of want that just 

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keeps the price. 
Like it's, yeah, it's like 

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either a really dusty guy who 
they would just be bringing in 

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as like an insurance policy of 
like, you know, what if this guy

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sucks or it's their first pick 
in the draft is 56. 

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They don't even have a first. 
They don't even have an early 

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2nd. 
So like, will they draft 

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someone? 
I don't know, maybe. 

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I don't think very highly. 
It is running back class. 

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There's no one they would draft 
at 56 or later that I don't 

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think tooten can beat. 
So I'm honestly hoping they add 

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someone because right now I am 
not only seeing like the 

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slappies celebrating the tooten,
I'm seeing some mainstream 

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fantasy people that are like, 
boy, a lot of opportunity for 

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Bishal Tooten. 
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be, you know, drafting with 
those guys because now we're. 

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Jeff Man's On the Fantasy Alarm 
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2026. 
Like the last thing I want to 

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see, with all due respect, is 
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make Bishal Tooten to my guy 
this year. 

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Like oh dude, if it would be 
apocalyptic, if we could bet it,

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I want to get those 3. 
How high will the price get 

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like? 
I don't I never understood that 

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He was like some crazy slappy 
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7th and eighth round. 
Like he this was always, it 

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seemed to me clear that they 
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walk. 
Now, they could have signed 

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Dowdell or they could have 
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Any of these other guys. 
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was unlikely, but he was going 
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that. 
Like the only way that he didn't

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go up was if they brought in 
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Once Breece was going to be 
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went away. 
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It's just it was a it was to me.
I enjoyed that easy layup that 

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we got. 
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need, you know, to be to be 
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forward because he has moved up 
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I drafted him today. 
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him today at the 5-6 turn. 
I took him over Cam Scataboo, 

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which, yeah, I mean, exactly. 
I was like I. 

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ADP is 70, so you're right on. 
So I have them where? 

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Where do you have them ranked? 
Well, it was like 10 picks above

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there. 
Where do you have them ranked? 

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Because I I put them right now. 
I did in my. 

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Because I was drafting. 
Like pick 60 and so Yep, I put 

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them at 49 right now. 
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How far you guys got 55? 
I am at 62 but that's because we

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have ADP baked in. 
If I just took ADP. 

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Out of oh, did 46 so that's so 
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yeah. 
Because I do, I do ADP baking as

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well and then I check my stuff 
against you guys and I check my 

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stuff against ETR and I was 
like, no fucking chance. 

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Am I not going to be the high 
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So I was like, wherever they 
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you'll be. 
I just I just raised him 

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slightly more. 
The ADP baking now. 

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I took a little bit of the ADP 
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Because like his ADP is going to
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Right, right. 
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On what his ADP is going to be 
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mean, I think he's going to be 
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I I'm. 
It's not small where you want 

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the full ADP tie. 
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The slap, he's really get going,
like, like he might get higher 

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than Javonte or David 
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Like who knows how hard we'll 
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I mean, surprised to know that 
you're higher on by shell tooten

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than etr.com is. 
Oh, it wouldn't. 

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It wouldn't surprise me. 
I'm I'm surprised, I'm surprised

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that you got the man's shot in 
without also including and here 

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are my top 580 sitcoms moments 
because you know, you got to you

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got to make sure when it's the 
heat of free agency to also, you

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know, cover all the bases. 
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With the esoterica, well, the 
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heavy, so let's take a look. 
Pat, what do you think? 

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Kenneth Walker, Davis. 
Get ready. 

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New Chief Ken Walker, Travis 
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JK Dobbins back in Denver. 
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Pittsburgh to replace him. 
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Arizona. 
Isaiah Pacheco. 

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OK, Detroit, Alvin Kamara. 
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Let's start with Davis here on 
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will be fundamentally different 
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I mean, they're going to be 
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sense that no running back and 
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their carries going over 15 
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Most recent two years, I believe
Jonathan Taylor is 1 and Kenneth

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recent three years, rank 32nd, 
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rate. 
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run last year. 
Kareem Hunt had two. 

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Prashard Smith had zero. 
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their quarterback Patrick 
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So I, I, I think it's pretty 
clear this was an organizational

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thing. 
That said, we just can't ask 

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mullems to do this anymore, even
if he is literally the greatest 

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of all time. 
We cannot have the league's 

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worst run game. 
Like to have the league's worst 

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run game is actually crazy like 
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It is kind of crazy. 
You have to try. 

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You have to try as. 
Yeah, you do with this kind of a

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quarterback like if you you have
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get here. 
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Claude over over Jonathan Taylor
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the way as well. 
CEH, who by the way, Davis got 

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carries against the Bills in 
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I I'm telling you man, it it you
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given the two options, draft 
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or pay Kenneth Walker $14.4 
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guaranteed. 
Given the state of their roster,

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I don't think it's close now. 
If this was Chris Jones was 28, 

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Travis Kelsey was 31, a fully 
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sign for a veteran minimum. 
Mcduffie's contract wasn't up. 

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Like all this stuff, like they 
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a weird year. 
I say take love, but given the 

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state of how much they just 
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there's going to be a fifth 
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takes who's going to be starting
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Probably 2 honestly. 
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good players and I think this is
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Their own. 
He's a bull. 

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He's an optimist. 
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Jacob, you had a good thread on 
this of, you know, this being a 

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good signing. 
I'm, I'm very much aligned with 

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you on this. 
Do you want to explain your 

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thoughts? 
Yeah, I mean, look, I wrote 

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thinking about thinking today 
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So like it was right off Davis's
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I just talked about how much I 
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them. 
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the Walker signing. 
Not nothing, but Chiefs optimism

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for my corner. 
I I think with it's, it's clear 

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to me you just like what Davis 
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Look at the free agent deals 
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We're going to get to the wide 
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At some point you have to 
overpay, you know, C players as 

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other B players, B players as 
other A players. 

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Jalen Naylor got a contract that
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line running backs this year. 
You want to be spending your 

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free agent money on the top end 
players at the undervalued 

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positions as safety at 
linebacker to your offensive 

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line running back. 
And you need to be drafting your

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wide receivers and your edge 
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I love what the Chiefs did there
and I think that Walker is just 

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the absolute ideal fit. 
He has the number one yards per 

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carry among running backs if 
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before contact. 
And the Seahawks were kind of 

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using him in a way that was 
trying to keep people in the 

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box. 
They were like, we got to run 

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the ball enough to keep guys in 
the box so we can throw against 

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these favorable box counts. 
Now, I don't think that you're 

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going to be able to do that when
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I think teams will still keep 
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So what you're instead looking 
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who can punish you massively if 
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And so I think Walker's life is 
about to get changed for the 

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better. 
I think he's an absolutely 

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perfect fit. 
And yeah, I have him ranked 

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super optimistically after the 
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I have him all the way up at 14 
overall in my My Expose free 

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Agency rank. 
That's where I put him. 

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I also put him at 14. 
And you think Davis there will 

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be a, what do you say, fifth 
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I mean, who plays on 3rd down? 
Does Walker play on 3rd down? 

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Ever. 
Ever heard of a young a young 

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man by the name of Kareem Hunt? 
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The last good running back they 
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Yeah, So I have him in 19. 
There's no ADP in that. 

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That's just where we think he he
should be. 

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I, I don't really, I don't want 
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necessarily, but it don't, would
you say? 

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Be the bear if you want to be 
the bear. 

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I mean, I don't really want to 
be that Like, I I took him 

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today. 
It was like him and like Derrick

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Henry was there and I was like, 
I'm like, I'm getting young. 

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Derrick Henry thinks it's like 
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the second round. 
I don't the fact that he 

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probably isn't going to play, 
you know, third downs have a 

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true workhorse role. 
I think the thing with Kenneth 

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Walker, this hasn't always been 
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boom bust runner. 
If you look at his his stuff 

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year, year to year and look, 
man, Kareem Hunt was really good

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in short yardage last year. 
So like if you, if you're 

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thinking, hey, why don't we just
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who's like really good in short 
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He can, he can handle pass 
blocking stuff. 

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It does feel a little bit like 
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there where there's like going 
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Now Walker's going to be, I 
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He's going to be explosive. 
I'm fully on board with him as a

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second round pick. 
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When you get up into that early 
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opportunity cost starts to get a
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That's where I'm I'm not quite 
where you guys are at that he 

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should be the 14th pick off the 
board. 

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If OK, do you change your mind 
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Samaj P Ryan as the as the other
running back or or Miles A? 

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Little bit, a little bit, yeah, 
a little bit for sure. 

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Because I think part of it for 
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with Walker is the, is the goal 
line stuff like am I am I having

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to to deal with him coming off 
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passing situations and he's not 
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stuff like last year to 37% 
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I think it was kind of in that 
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Like you want 40% or higher in 
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like a consistent, you know, in 
between the tackles runner that 

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that coaches are are probably 
going to be willing to trust and

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just hasn't really been that guy
pretty much his whole career. 

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He did hit 40% two years ago. 
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30s. 
So that's the part that just 

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worries me a bit as far as 
spending, you know, an early 

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second round pick on him, but 
obviously a huge winner. 

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His charge for me are like 
hilarious every year and they 

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look the same every year. 
The like things I put together 

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that I call the stacked box. 
Like he's the only guy where 

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he'll always have two or three 
metrics that are like bright 

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green, first in the league, 
second in the league, third in 

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the league, and he'll have like 
three other metrics where he's 

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like 40th, 45th. 
It's just he's such a boom or 

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bust dude. 
But I mean, even, I guess my 

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view is I think I'm more off 
bullish on the world. 

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I think they spent so much money
on him. 

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There's like a justification 
element to it that I think he 

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would have to like try and fail 
miserably at goal line work to 

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not get it. 
Like I think they're going to 

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want a guy they spent 
15,000,000. 

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Dollars. 
You know what? 

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I actually agree with Jacob 
because there's a lot of chatter

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around the team, fans, local 
media like Brett Veach sucks, 

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like Brett Veach, like go look 
at, go look at the Chiefs 2023 

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draft. 
Like every pick is is they, like

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every pick is a miss. 
Welcome to that world. 

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Well, I mean, Brandon Bean was 
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and now it's quite. 
Different. 

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Well, well, actually a very 
unlike the relationship that 

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Brandon Bean has had with Bills 
fans, Chiefs fans have hated 

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Veach the entire time. 
Why? 

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A lot of it. 
Well, honestly, do you do you 

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want? 
The truth is a lot of it stems 

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from the Clyderwood Solaire pick
is a big part and the Nicole 

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Hardman pick 2 picks that that 
Chiefs fans have just like hated

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at the time. 
DK and chapter over JT. 

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Yeah, Chiefs fans hated it at 
the time, have hated it since 

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then. 
They credit basically the the 

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fact that the Chiefs have had a 
good to great defense all to 

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Spags. 
Like they're like, you know, 

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basically you give Spags kind of
anyone and he'll give you the 

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11th best defense in the NFL. 
And then obviously the offense 

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is, well, it doesn't take a 
rocket scientist to to have a 

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good offense with Mahone. 
So, so basically everyone looks 

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at we have terrible tackles and 
our one good edge rusher Dorsey 

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brought in. 
So what? 

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What have you done for me, Brett
Beech? 

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Yeah, comment here are they 
really didn't take out a running

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back they just paid 43 mil for 
on goal line situations for 

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cream Hunt. 
Like, to me it it would, I'm not

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saying the very first goal line 
touch cream Hunt's jogging on 

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the field. 
But like, yeah, if he's not 

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getting the job done, they'll 
probably put it in the guy who's

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really. 
Good for a word. 

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Cream make make the the the even
better point than it about being

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non merit based. 
Cream Hunt is the best short 

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yardage rusher. 
Yeah, he's been really good. 

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Far none in success rate better 
than cream hunt the last two 

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seasons on the Chiefs better 
third and 4th down goal to go or

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short yardage success rate than 
the tush push the. 

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Other thing is that like we, I 
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We talk about this all the time,
like the the whole thing of 

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like, well, they just paid them 
all this money. 

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So therefore they like he must 
be used this way. 

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Like doesn't work like that. 
It never works like that. 

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First of all, like it works like
that. 

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Maybe a slightly more on the 
chiefs where Andy Reid's got so 

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much power, but there's AGM 
right? 

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They bring him in, they hand 
them off to the coaches. 

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The coaches are kind of like, I 
don't love these ingredients you

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you cooked up for. 
It's like and this stuff only 

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protects guys for so long. 
Like it's like, are they really 

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going to, you know, not feed 
Xavier worthy? 

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Like, no, they're not. 
He's not very good. 

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You know, like there's there's 
like only. 

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So much you do with the. 
Guys not working out so. 

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I think this is a different 
scenario like like, well, yeah, 

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I mean the holder report that 
was like the Colts are going to 

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get Alec Pierce 8 to 10 targets 
a game. 

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Now It's like, OK, buddy, like I
don't think you can just do 

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that. 
But like whether or not you play

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Kareemont or Ken Walker on 3rd 
and one at the goal line is like

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a very active the team actually 
can choose this like you in a 

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way that you can't just choose 
to get Alec Pierce 10 targets 

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like that is. 
The team could choose it and I 

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would expect I would expect that
like I don't expect Walker to be

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again, we have him 19. 
It's not like we hate him, but 

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you know, to talk about getting 
him up into the early 2nd. 

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That's when I start thinking 
about like the floor, the 

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wrists, how this doesn't work 
out and I already don't think 

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like I don't you guys think he's
just going to be like a three 

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down workhorse like that would 
surprise me. 

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That's. 
Not I don't think he's going to 

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play on 3rd downs and I don't 
think it fucking matters at all.

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Of course, I think, I think he's
going to be 1/3 a three down 

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workhorse. 
To the extent that it matters. 

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I, I, I agree with what Davis 
says mostly. 

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Like the idea of, of playing on 
passing downs, like in the most 

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literal sense doesn't matter 
that much. 

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If you only sub out on like 
third and eight, third and 10, 

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that's usually like we're 
talking like 8 receptions over 

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the course of a year. 
But like, if you play in the 

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two-minute drill, if you play in
comeback mode, that's the stuff 

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that. 
Matters what it. 

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Means I think he's going to not 
be 1/3 down back in the most 

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literal sense of on 3rd and 12. 
I don't think he's on the field.

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I think he's going to be a 
figurative 3 down back in the 

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sense of I expect him to get 60 
to 70 targets, play 75 to 80% of

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the snaps, be on the field in 
comeback mode, be on the field 

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in the two-minute drill. 
Walker or James? 

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Cook. 
Who also doesn't play on 3rd 

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down ever. 
Yeah, I mean Cook, Cook is more,

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Cook is different in that he, 
like his raw snaps are always 

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weird, although they were way 
better last year. 

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But they run the ball so much 
and he's such a focus whenever 

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he's out there that I we've seen
it now enough that I kind of 

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just buy it. 
It took me a while to believe 

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that the Bills would make their 
team about feeding James Cook 

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and having a Josh Allen be a 
secondary player. 

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Like, you know, a counter punch,
but they that they are into it. 

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I don't know why it's dumb. 
Do you do you guys think some? 

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Part of this analysis is baked 
in with the fact that we all 

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have chief psychosis because 
they've had the weirdest 

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backfield rotation in the league
since Kareem Hunt got waved mid 

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season for kicking a woman. 
No, because we've we've been 

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taking Pacheco like reasonably 
high. 

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Like he's not, it's not like 
Pacheco's been. 

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I mean, the, the market like 
Pacheco's been drafted pretty 

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high. 
Like the the last point I wanted

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to make on the Walker thing is 
like the like Rashid Shahid just

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got resigned, right? 
And they're like, so Rashid 

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Shahid, what's the deal there? 
Like he just thought he was such

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a huge impact. 
We had to bring him back. 

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Like such a huge impact. 
Yeah, there was a guy like 

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barely played. 
On that, yeah. 

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Yeah, well, but that's to me 
that's that's part of the 

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disconnect when we as like 
fantasy players think about this

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stuff versus NFL teams like they
think Rashid Shaheed made a huge

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impact and they needed to sign 
into a new. $51 million deal 

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well. 
We played the guy, so. 

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Okay, so that's. 
Why receivers cost like that's 

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like if you want to keep Rashid 
Jahid, you just you have to pay 

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that. 
I mean, I think that's an 

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excellent value deal, honestly. 
For what do you bring special? 

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Special Sure, it's a it's a 
solid. 

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Deal, but like they paid, they 
paid Walker like they went out. 

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When's the last time they paid a
contract like this for running 

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back? 
I don't think not in the never 

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in the Mahomes era, right? 
The only other major investment 

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they've made was CEH is a first 
round draft pick. 

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I mean, that's a pretty. 
Wise, that's a pretty. 

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Big investment, first round pick
and now you're kind of like for.

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Sure, you know what I mean. 
And they did play him a lot. 

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He just sucked. 
Right, he did suck. 

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Let's get. 
Like out of the out of the gate,

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they gave him a ton of work. 
He was just terrible. 

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I I don't expect Walker to be 
terrible. 

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I think he's fantastic. 
No, but Walker's a very 

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different back than CEH who who 
was coming out or receiving 

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back. 
So like as a purely as a fantasy

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profile, like Walker, you know, 
like CEH, had he been any good 

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at all, would have been very 
fantasy friendly, right. 

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Walker, I think it's just a 
little bit the profile itself. 

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It's, it's relying on explosive 
runs and, and he, your, your 

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point about him being such a 
great fit. 

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I completely agree with the 
explosiveness is what they need 

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to add to this offense. 
They don't necessarily need a 

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back who's there to do 
everything. 

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They need a guy who they can 
hand the ball off to who's going

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to hit explosive runs. 
And, and he will do that. 

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Like, and that's why I think 
he's a good pick at the back end

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of the second round. 
When we start to think about 

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like who's going to be a fantasy
superstar worthy of an early 

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second round pick? 
I'm kind of like there's a few 

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other guys I'd rather rather bet
on than him. 

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Let's get to ETN. 
What does Davis. 

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What is your read on what New 
Orleans wants from him Every. 

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They wanted they wanted Alvin 
Kamara, but instead of being 30,

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being 26, like a a kind of chunk
runner, I guess. 

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I mean, obviously Etn's peaks 
are nowhere close to to Kamara's

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peaks, but I, I think that 
Kelvin Moore, I mean, Kellen 

443
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:08,400
Moore's best offenses have had a
running back sort of like this. 

444
00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:12,800
His worst offense was the 
Chargers year when Eckler was 

445
00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:16,600
past it. 
He's Kellen Moore has engineered

446
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,800
offenses that has led the NFL in
points scored twice, two 

447
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:21,800
different locations, kind of 
like that. 

448
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,360
I've always been a Kellen Moore 
slappy much more than the market

449
00:22:25,360 --> 00:22:30,440
after everyone soured on him. 
So I'm personally pretty bullish

450
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:34,840
about this, although we do have 
the dangling participle here in 

451
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,480
the sense that Alvin Kamar has 
not said he's retiring. 

452
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,160
He's not said I'm going to be a 
St. 

453
00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,560
He's not said I want to be 
traded. 

454
00:22:41,560 --> 00:22:46,440
Like we, we have no clarity here
on on him. 

455
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,880
I I am imagining Kamar not being
on the team but kind of a bummer

456
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,680
for Kamar to play elsewhere. 
He did say last year he would 

457
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,440
retire rather than be traded. 
He did. 

458
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,920
Yeah. 
Now the reality is hitting it. 

459
00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:01,840
Always does eventually. 
And he'll be giving up a lot of 

460
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,800
money to not play right because 
his contract is so big. 

461
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,120
Yeah, they restructured it so 
that he can so that their cap 

462
00:23:10,120 --> 00:23:14,880
takes less of a hit this year if
he goes somewhere else or 

463
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,040
retires. 
So there's a lot of smoke that 

464
00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,680
he won't be on the Saints at 
this point. 

465
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:22,080
I don't know, Like the tough 
part far for me to read is, is 

466
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,640
it because he's going to retire?
Is it because they're going to 

467
00:23:24,640 --> 00:23:27,800
end up trading him elsewhere? 
It could be the type of thing 

468
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,840
where they just sit on it, see 
what happens after the draft. 

469
00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:33,160
Maybe there's a team that, you 
know, thinks they're going to, 

470
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,840
maybe he goes to Jacksonville or
something like that. 

471
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:37,960
You know, like there's a team 
that's like, oh, we kind of 

472
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,600
struck out in terms of getting 
anybody else here that can be 

473
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,160
veteran depth, but. 
I wouldn't give. 

474
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:43,840
An amazing mirror. 
To the Jags. 

475
00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,840
Yeah, yeah. 
But like that type of that type 

476
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,040
of backfield will probably 
exist. 

477
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,760
It might not be the Jags, but 
right, someone would probably be

478
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:56,440
like, oh, you know, now sending 
a six for Camaro doesn't seem so

479
00:23:56,440 --> 00:23:57,680
bad because we. 
Didn't Vegas. 

480
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:00,320
I mean, I'm not getting my James
Connor at. 

481
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,360
All again please Again please 
give me. 

482
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:06,160
Yeah, Vegas would be good if. 
They're next to any running back

483
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:09,280
I would like to draft, please. 
Vegas would reunite him with 

484
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,440
with Kubrick as well, so that 
would actually work out. 

485
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,280
Yeah, I'm. 
Hurting for that one. 

486
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,880
Yeah, I think he has a solid 
pick now. 

487
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,400
I don't, I don't really have any
super strong thoughts about him.

488
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,080
No, I haven't ranked the exact 
same as you at 32. 

489
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:25,960
I think of him similarly to Josh
Jacobs. 

490
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:27,920
I think he's going to get a ton 
of work. 

491
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,440
He's going to be fine. 
He's not going to be like Uber, 

492
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,520
Uber efficient, but he's going 
to get all the goal line work. 

493
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,320
He's going to get basically all 
of the work for the New Orleans 

494
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:43,400
Saints, I suspect, and probably 
be like in the 16 can. 

495
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:47,080
I be range. 
Can I be the voice of the boomer

496
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:52,880
here on on Dobbins? 
Yeah, watch them with the 165 

497
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:57,800
Pat is that, is that current? 
Yeah, I think it is. 

498
00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,920
I I I haven't been 96. 
Yeah, I Corinne, I love you. 

499
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:04,160
I love Zach. 
I love everyone there so much. 

500
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,280
This is just, it's just, it's 
not right. 

501
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:09,640
It's it's he's got to be at 
least in like the one 10s, I 

502
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:11,760
think. 
I know he sucks. 

503
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,080
I know. 
I mean, I think Zach is. 

504
00:25:13,120 --> 00:25:14,800
But he doesn't suck. 
He doesn't suck. 

505
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,480
JK Dobbins. 
He's he's like one of the most 

506
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,560
efficient runners in the NFL 
every time he's on a football 

507
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,640
field. 
I got him up a bit. 

508
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:25,240
And I know Zach has. 
Been I mean, isn't he like, 

509
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,720
isn't he like minus money to 
just outscore Harvey next year? 

510
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:31,160
Yeah, but he did all. 
Of no he's not. 

511
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,680
I don't think he is. 
He's because he he just suffered

512
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,720
another season ending lower body
injury. 

513
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,560
He suffered 17 of them, and 
every time he comes back, yeah. 

514
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,800
That's yeah. 
That runs out too. 

515
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,840
That's we just never have to 
worry about lower body injuries 

516
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,120
with JK Dobbins. 
He's the only guy that doesn't 

517
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,120
that. 
Doesn't. 

518
00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:50,520
He always makes it through a 
seat. 

519
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,800
He's gonna get injured again, 
but before he gets injured 

520
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,080
again, he's gonna average 5.1 
yards per carry. 

521
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,720
OK, I mean, sure, you're 
probably right. 

522
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:02,160
I don't know. 
I mean, I think the, the, the 

523
00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:05,920
Harvey thing's been strange to 
me because he was pretty good 

524
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,760
like and especially as a pass 
catcher he was, he had, I was 

525
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,680
looking at it, comparing it to 
scataboo, right. 

526
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:16,800
So scataboo had 3.8 pass, 3.8 
receptions just from week 3 to 

527
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,440
week 7. 
So that throws out the first two

528
00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:20,920
games and it wasn't really 
getting that much work, although

529
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,440
he still pretty involved there. 
I think he drops like 3.3 if you

530
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:27,720
include those games and then you
throw out week 8 because that's 

531
00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:31,400
the the game he got hurt didn't 
have a ton of carries so or 

532
00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,160
receptions. 
So he's like Harvey's at 3.4 in 

533
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:41,480
the non Dobbins games he was 
like 1.39 yards per outrun. 

534
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,480
Pretty good. 
Not like amazing, but like 

535
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,320
pretty good. 
We're talking about a rookie who

536
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,040
was drafted in the second round 
last year. 

537
00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:51,800
And then you've got JK Dobbins, 
who you know, relative to some 

538
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:54,760
of the other options here that 
the the Broncos could have 

539
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,760
brought in. 
I do not find very scary. 

540
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,400
Again, this guy like keeps 
getting hurt and is coming off 

541
00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:05,440
another injury, like we a foot 
injury where he might not even 

542
00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:09,440
be ready for week 1 potentially.
So, you know, they, we knew they

543
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,800
were going to add somebody. 
We've had, you know, in our 

544
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:13,640
stuff. 
Harvey's always, we've always 

545
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,240
had room for another back here 
because they've made that 

546
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:17,560
crystal clear. 
They're going to add somebody. 

547
00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,760
But they maybe seemed like they 
were interested in in ETN or or 

548
00:27:21,760 --> 00:27:23,920
Walker or whatever. 
That would have been, I think, a

549
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:27,040
pretty big problem. 
This I don't know. 

550
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,200
I'm I'm not that excited to 
chase Dobbins. 

551
00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,920
I'm really not. 
I'm not. 

552
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,600
You probably are a little too 
weird, little too low, but one 

553
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,280
one 10s like you guys can have 
them. 

554
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,400
I'm not interested in that. 
I'm I'm not excited to draft him

555
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:42,560
and he won't be a big part of My
Portfolio, but like I just like,

556
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,080
I think if you're if, if you. 
Can't ignore him. 

557
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:48,560
If you are. 
Preserving the NFL and rushing 

558
00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,720
yards when he got hurt last 
year. 

559
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:53,240
Yeah. 
You can't ignore him. 

560
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,400
Davis is the point. 
I wasn't at timeshare. 

561
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,640
Yeah, he was. 
He was just the Broncos running 

562
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,080
back and Harvey was like a pass 
catcher. 

563
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,440
Harvey. 
Harvey was like Harvey was 

564
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,040
Pierre Thomas. 
Yeah, Harvey's role was fun and 

565
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:09,320
he was good at that role. 
Like he, like I agree with 

566
00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:10,720
everything you said, Pat, I 
think he was. 

567
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,240
He was really fun as a pass 
catcher. 

568
00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,720
He had a few really nice 
breakaway runs. 

569
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:20,240
I loved Harvey as a prospect, 
but like overall last year, he 

570
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,640
was not good as a rusher. 
Vision issues struggled, success

571
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,640
rate was terrible. 
A lot of the the creation 

572
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,800
metrics were really rough. 
And then, you know, Dobbins got 

573
00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:33,120
hurt and Harvey took over and he
had a really fantasy friendly 

574
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,000
role. 
But like, they played the Bills 

575
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,440
in oh wow. 
Apparently the Max Crosby trade 

576
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,280
is over as we're discussing 
this, which is wild. 

577
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,600
The Baltimore Ravens have backed
out of our trade agreement for 

578
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,440
Max Crosby. 
We have no further comment at 

579
00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,480
this time from Adam Schefter. 
And it is the real Schefter 

580
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:49,880
account. 
It's not Adam Schefler. 

581
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,200
Rappaport at the same time as 
always. 

582
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:55,480
Wow. 
Well, that's wild. 

583
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,440
Anyway, I'm going to let's get 
back on the Broncos. 

584
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,000
But my point is they they went 
into the playoffs, they played 

585
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,400
Buffalo, who like hemorrhages 
yards on the run. 

586
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:07,560
They didn't want to run the ball
at all because they didn't trust

587
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,280
Harvey to run the ball the next 
week again. 

588
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:11,920
They didn't trust him to take on
a full rush and then all off 

589
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,480
season instead of it being like 
Harvey showed some things. 

590
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:18,000
We can't wait to put more on his
plate going in for year two. 

591
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,680
It was running back as a major 
need. 

592
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,280
We tried to trade for David 
Montgomery. 

593
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,840
We didn't get it done. 
We tried to sign Travis Etienne.

594
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,880
We got out bid. 
We gave JK Dobbins 8 million 

595
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,600
guaranteed and we're and are 
expected to add another running 

596
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,880
back in the draft. 
Like it's it seems to me that 

597
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,200
they I don't know if they hate 
Harvey but they don't seem to 

598
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,400
have any intention of expanding 
him beyond his satellite role is

599
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,040
I think a reasonable read. 
Now could Dobbins get hurt again

600
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,160
and Harvey plays great in that 
role and is a big hit for sure. 

601
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,520
Could Harvey show up and look 
better in week one, Week 2 on 

602
00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,200
inside runs and he he gets more 
from Dobbins over the course of 

603
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:01,520
the year for sure. 
But I think that their plan is 

604
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,360
JK, Dobbins is our lead running 
back this year and Harvey is a 

605
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,880
change of pace guy. 
I have Harvey ranked ahead of 

606
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,200
Dobbins, but I I think Dobbins 
should be drafted as the as a 

607
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,720
guy who's gonna have a really 
major role, not like as a 

608
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:17,160
backup. 
There also might be a structural

609
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,200
component to this analysis right
when you look at ADP. 

610
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,880
I mean you have literally only 
three players between Jadarian 

611
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,600
Price at one O 2 and Dobbins at 
1:34. 

612
00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:29,920
Gimme Gimme Dobbins over 
Jadarian price. 

613
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:32,560
There speaks for me. 
It's it's very nice. 

614
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:36,360
No, I wanted Aaron Price there. 
At running back in those two or 

615
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:41,640
almost 3 rounds I would say. 
I think with Dobbins, you, you 

616
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:46,600
have, you have all the issues of
this guy, you know, who's dealt 

617
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,280
with just an insane amount of 
injuries. 

618
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,600
At some point Dobbins is going, 
we're just going to be like, 

619
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:54,760
there's no juice. 
Like like how many lower body 

620
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:55,280
injuries? 
Can you? 

621
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,680
It will definitely happen at 
some point, but it doesn't mean 

622
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,920
that. 
Like, it doesn't mean it's gonna

623
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,080
happen now and it doesn't mean 
that it doesn't make Harvey a 

624
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,440
good pick, is what I'm saying. 
It's like it's Dobbins, just 

625
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,160
like a probably a starting 
running back. 

626
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,160
Like I they, I don't think they 
like Harvey all that much. 

627
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:15,120
Seems older but 27 in December 
by the way. 

628
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:18,360
Dobbins, yeah, he is 27. 
He does seem older though, and I

629
00:31:18,360 --> 00:31:20,160
think there's a reason for that 
that reason. 

630
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:23,640
For me he seems 33. 
Yeah, yeah. 

631
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,440
I mean. 
He doesn't have the NFL miles 

632
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:28,400
for his age, but he has other 
things. 

633
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:31,560
Right. 
And you do have the, the thing 

634
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,440
with Dobbins, even last year, 
not any kind of pass catching 

635
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:36,480
juice. 
That's not if he had 1.1 

636
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,400
receptions per game. 
So you're, you're dealing with 

637
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,360
like with Dobbins, you go in 
there and you're like, oh, 

638
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:45,720
Dobbins had a lot of rushing 
yards last year before he got 

639
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,280
hurt again. 
And then no receiving 

640
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:55,080
whatsoever. 0.32 yards per 
outrun last year with the 

641
00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:57,160
Broncos, like he's just not 
going to be involved there at 

642
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:58,840
all. 
So you're you're getting a 

643
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:03,000
pretty limited profile. 
And then even if he is what you 

644
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,080
guys are saying, that's a nice, 
that's a nice little hit, you 

645
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:09,480
know, in the in the 110 range or
something where we're taking 

646
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,280
generic price goes around pick 
100. 

647
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:15,680
So, you know, 110 would actually
be a little bit of a, a little 

648
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,720
bit of a discount from where 
you're getting price. 

649
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,440
And Pat, and what I'm saying is 
between one O 2 and 134, it's 

650
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,760
Kenneth Gainwell, Jonah Coleman,
Jordan Mason, JCM. 

651
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,360
If you want to, if you feel like
you need a running back there, 

652
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,440
you don't have many options. 
I mean, I'd take them over JCM, 

653
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:36,400
you know, take them over that. 
So, you know, there's a line for

654
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:41,080
me, but yeah, I don't know. 
I mean, I it's like, yes, I 

655
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:45,000
understand that at the beginning
of ARJ Harvey's rookie season, 

656
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,560
JK Dobbins was the clear lead 
runner. 

657
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:51,880
He didn't have any kind of pass 
catching stuff, and Harvey did. 

658
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,080
And then Harvey, that part 
really grew for Harvey once 

659
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,240
Dobbins was out. 
This is a a coach who's thrown 

660
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,840
to his running backs every year.
Harvey, like that was a big part

661
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,600
of his profile and appeal coming
out. 

662
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,040
I recognize that he isn't a very
consistent runner. 

663
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,480
He's going to be a boom bust 
runner probably his entire 

664
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,360
career. 
Like he he was very his success 

665
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,280
rate was a legit red flag last 
year. 

666
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,680
Not Yeah, Harvey Harvey's 
success rate was a legit red 

667
00:33:15,680 --> 00:33:17,840
flag. 
Wasn't a very efficient runner. 

668
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:20,640
This makes sense as far as 
putting a backfield together, 

669
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:26,360
but I don't think that, like 
Dobbins is a very great bet to 

670
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:30,200
hold down what he was able to do
in the beginning part of 

671
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,000
Harvey's rookie season, in 
Harvey's second season. 

672
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,920
That's that's the part to me 
where I'm like, we only kind of 

673
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:39,800
saw one thing. 
We never saw what happens after 

674
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,240
Harvey gets a chance to spread 
his wings a little bit. 

675
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,400
Well, what happened after Harvey
decided to spread his wings a 

676
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,320
little bit? 
As the Broncos said, we are 

677
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,240
going to make damn well sure 
that we had as many running 

678
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,040
backs as. 
Possible. 

679
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,920
Now, that's sure they didn't. 
They didn't mean they could have

680
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:55,840
paid $15 million to Kenneth 
Walker. 

681
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:57,000
They could have a little more 
sure that. 

682
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,240
I mean they were in on 
$2,000,000 to drive ETN. 

683
00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:02,320
Widely reported being in on ETN.
They they did try. 

684
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560
True, they were in, but I I 
don't think they. 

685
00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,000
Did sign Dobbins and and it's 
also reported they're going to 

686
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,760
draft another running back. 
Like who? 

687
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,040
Another running back in this 
class means almost nothing 

688
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:14,800
unless they literally. 
Take a carrying price. 

689
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:16,639
No, it doesn't mean right. 
Well, it doesn't. 

690
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:19,040
Mean we're talking day three. 
Sense of that's why I'm happy 

691
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:23,040
for JK Dobbins like in his 
price, but it to me it just 

692
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:26,760
communicates that they're not 
looking to spread RJ Harvey's 

693
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,560
wings. 
They're they're viewing running 

694
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,280
back as a major need for them. 
Yeah, I don't think that. 

695
00:34:32,679 --> 00:34:35,400
Again, I think this will be a 
committee, but give me the guy 

696
00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:39,440
who I think is much better bet 
to be explosive at this point in

697
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,440
their respective careers and 
catches the ball. 

698
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:43,960
Give me that guy. 
What are we doing with straight?

699
00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:46,840
Straight, straight up, sure, but
like, I don't know, I what what 

700
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,280
is the gap between you that you 
have them in picks like 100? 

701
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,719
I just think that's really, 
really why. 

702
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,960
Yeah, I moved Dobbins up a bit, 
I think. 

703
00:34:55,960 --> 00:34:58,880
I think the Harvey I'm I'm 
pretty happy with where we have 

704
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,080
Harvey. 
Where do you where do you have 

705
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:06,320
Harvey? 
I I have Harvey at 74. 

706
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,680
Where do you have him? 
I met 7067. 

707
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:12,800
OK, it's really Dobbins. 
We're we're further. 

708
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,160
Apart. 
Well, it's really Dobbins we're 

709
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,480
arguing about, yeah. 
What are we doing with Arizona? 

710
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:22,560
I'm an Algier guy. 
I mean Algiers the only one I 

711
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,120
would draft, but I I'm not the 
upside of an early down running 

712
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:30,680
back on what might be the worst 
team in the NFL is pretty rough 

713
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,480
if I'm but he he deserves to be.
I think clearly the lead in ADP.

714
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,400
Do we even have reporting on how
much of A Peacock Connor has to 

715
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,080
take to stay? 
With I still have not seen 

716
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,080
anything. 
I'm guessing it was a ton based 

717
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:46,760
on them signing Algier. 
Yeah, I, I don't know. 

718
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,680
I think it's, I think it's a bit
of a mess, but I would take 

719
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:53,080
Algier. 
Yeah, A. 

720
00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:57,560
Lot I mean. 
I I get Algiera one O 2 so 

721
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,400
almost exactly aligned with 
where Pat had him. 

722
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,720
But where I am, I am at one O 6 
and I don't even think I have 

723
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:08,240
Connor or Benson in my top 200. 
So Connor, we have a 140 and I 

724
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,000
still think is a pretty solid 
pick. 

725
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,240
Wow. 
OK, Yeah. 

726
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,160
That may be moving in 150, but I
would take Connor, I mean. 

727
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:16,840
I I would I would have no 
interest there. 

728
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:17,720
I I. 
Think we just. 

729
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:19,240
Get. 
Caught. 

730
00:36:19,240 --> 00:36:23,080
See, Here's the thing though. 
So there is Deepak Chona had a a

731
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,640
tweet about Benson saying he 
never returned from this 

732
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,680
meniscus tear which is a concern
for potential like cartilage 

733
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:31,600
stuff especially. 
Benson's A 0. 

734
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:35,800
I I saw that I think Benson's. 
On yeah, I'm not interested in 

735
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,800
Benson and that and I was taking
some Benson before because I was

736
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,640
like, oh, maybe this is his 
backfield. 

737
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,960
Obviously that's shifted big 
time and I'm not interested in 

738
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,240
in chasing that at this point. 
I I think Benson is the loser 

739
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:50,640
here. 
I think when you have a guy like

740
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:53,760
Connor in a situation like this,
right where like, oh, Benson, 

741
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:55,800
you got, you know, once Benson 
gets back, he's probably the 

742
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,520
lead back and they're like, 
let's renegotiate with James 

743
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,640
Conner and get his number down 
so that this makes sense. 

744
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,040
And then let's go get Tyler 
Algier. 

745
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,200
And again, this is a very thin 
running back class. 

746
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:09,400
So in in a lot of these cases, 
if you're not taking Jeremiah 

747
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:14,400
Love, we're talking about like 
maybe 1 landmine in in Jadarian 

748
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:17,120
Price, maybe 2IN in Jonah 
Coleman. 

749
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,120
There's not a lot of like guys 
who are going to come shake up 

750
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:23,800
backfields in a huge way. 
I think it's probably Connor as 

751
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,000
your, as your kind of contingent
handcuff backup here. 

752
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,640
I I don't think we can expect 
much from Benson and then 

753
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,520
Algier. 
I mean, this is a 2 down run. 

754
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:35,520
This is a guy in the Dobbins 
mold as well. 

755
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,240
So with Connor, I think you 
potentially get some pass 

756
00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:41,640
catching stuff too. 
Again, though, I am kind of 

757
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,800
treating Benson like it's it's 
not happening. 

758
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:49,200
See, I I think I'm viewing it as
one of Benson or Connor probably

759
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,560
isn't on the team and the third 
down running back is a running 

760
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,600
back to be named later because 
we haven't seen Connor do any of

761
00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,120
the pass down stuff in a long 
time. 

762
00:37:58,120 --> 00:37:59,760
Like he hasn't done that in 
Arizona ever. 

763
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,240
It's been it's like back to 
Pittsburgh that he was playing 

764
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:05,400
on 3rd downs and two minutes 
stuff like he he was that was 

765
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,400
Chase Edmunds role initially. 
It was Benson last year, year 

766
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,840
before it was Dean, Mercado was 
playing Mercado. 

767
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,440
Yeah, yeah. 
So like, I don't know, that's I 

768
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:15,360
don't know that that's Connor's 
stuff. 

769
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,040
Like I I think I would view it 
as Algiers the starter, but he's

770
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,880
like a very low value empty 
calorie starter. 

771
00:38:22,360 --> 00:38:26,040
Honor, I think is the backup 
with a chance to maybe mix in. 

772
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:29,360
But it's like, is this my 
favorite handcuff in the world? 

773
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:34,360
A 31 year old on a terrible team
with an early down profile, like

774
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:37,120
coming off a major injury? 
Like I'll take any other backup 

775
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,000
actually, when I'm not even that
100% sure he's the backup. 

776
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,560
It could be Trey Benson. 
Like I would I would way rather 

777
00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:45,520
have like Tank Bigsby if I'm 
just taking a backup than James 

778
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,480
Conner are. 
You sure he's the the backup 

779
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,240
like? 
The big question is what what 

780
00:38:51,240 --> 00:38:55,640
are they doing? 
So it's Brissett, like, OK, 

781
00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,720
fine. 
I mean, you don't have a better 

782
00:38:57,720 --> 00:39:00,120
idea. 
You're going to win four games, 

783
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:03,080
five games again, why would you 
need either of these guys? 

784
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,000
Like, what's the point? 
Why wouldn't you just sort of 

785
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,720
roll out rookies and flash? 
And I don't know, it's I, I'm 

786
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,160
with Jacob on that LGR analysis.
What do you need James Conner 

787
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,280
for? 
I mean, raise, just retire his 

788
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,840
number, have a ceremony, get on 
with it. 

789
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,120
Well, if Benson's nothing, then 
that that's what you need him 

790
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,240
for. 
You need to back up running 

791
00:39:21,240 --> 00:39:22,360
back. 
For what? 

792
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,480
For what reason to to get 8 
carries and a 30? 

793
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:27,840
I thought, I thought Connor was 
getting cut like I thought 

794
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:31,560
Connor was going to be elsewhere
and they renegotiated the deal 

795
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,720
so he could stay that to me, 
like I know the thing would 

796
00:39:35,720 --> 00:39:39,600
still cut him, but why do that 
if that's the plan there? 

797
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,200
Maybe they're going to see what 
happens in the draft. 

798
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,920
They'll cut him after. 
You know, it's definitely 

799
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,120
possible, but I don't know it's.
Why bother with? 

800
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,200
Any I'm not, I'm not saying it's
likely he'll get caught. 

801
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,960
I just, I, I don't know. 
I, I think it's, I guess I'm 

802
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:53,880
just looking at it as Algiers, 
the starter and one of the least

803
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,320
valuable starters. 
I think whoever is the RB2 is 

804
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:59,960
one of the least valuable RB2's 
and I don't even know 100% sure 

805
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:01,440
who it is. 
So like, why would I want to 

806
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,360
draft the Arizona Cardinals? 
RB2 is is more my take on it. 

807
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:10,560
Well, we've covered a couple of 
the next slides already, Kansas 

808
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:12,960
City's backfield with Kenneth 
Walker if you want to take a 

809
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,400
peek at that. 
And then as it happens, Camara 

810
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,040
is included in the Jacksonville 
slide. 

811
00:40:18,040 --> 00:40:22,600
So Jacob, you know, cross your 
fingers there. 

812
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:25,520
There they are. 
ETM, the New Orleans Tooting and

813
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:29,440
then Camara. 
Any final thoughts on some of 

814
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,120
the running back stuff until we 
before we get to the receivers? 

815
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:39,360
Not for me. 
OK, Wide receiver news Alec 

816
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,840
Pierce, Jacob, we'll get right 
to you in a second here. 

817
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,520
What it called DJ Moore. 
I'm. 

818
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,000
I'm ready to go on him if you 
want. 

819
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,960
Romeo Dobbs, Michael Pittman to 
Pittsburgh, Wandale Robinson to 

820
00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:51,880
Tennessee. 
Rashid Shaheed stays in Seattle,

821
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:54,520
big money. 
Mike Evans to San Francisco. 

822
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,120
That was the dream here, but 
that didn't happen. 

823
00:40:57,400 --> 00:40:59,360
Jalen Naylor to Vegas. 
Sky Moore. 

824
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,080
Hi. 
Sky Moore, welcome to the. 

825
00:41:01,720 --> 00:41:04,600
Sky's up. 
And then Brian Thomas, Junior, 

826
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,600
staying or not staying in 
Jacksonville. 

827
00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:09,320
Jacob, you were honest, you said
weeks ago on this show. 

828
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:10,880
Pierce will stay. 
Pittman will go. 

829
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:14,320
You were right. 
Held held the line on that. 

830
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,760
I mean, we paid him just an 
absurd amount of money. 

831
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:19,880
Wow. 
I, I don't know. 

832
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,000
I've already talked enough about
how in the what I am and how the

833
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:24,040
Indianapolis Colts played this 
offseason. 

834
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,120
I, I don't need to do that 
diatribe again. 

835
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,040
I'm happy that Alec Pierce is 
still on my team. 

836
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,200
I I guess even if I probably 
wouldn't sign that contract, I, 

837
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,640
I don't know the the whole the 
offseason talking point on the 

838
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,720
Stephen Holder, they're going to
get him 8 to 10 targets per game

839
00:41:39,720 --> 00:41:43,400
quote is going to be hilarious. 
This is like an all time beat 

840
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,920
writer fantasy projections 
tweet. 

841
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,800
Like I mean, there's no Michael 
Pittman there and they did pay a

842
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,240
bunch of money. 
So I'm sure in their mind they 

843
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:54,840
are going to design more for 
him. 

844
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:57,440
And I would expect that he sees 
more targets per game than last 

845
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,400
year marginally. 
I think it's probably pretty 

846
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:04,640
reasonable. 
But the reality is like he's 

847
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:06,720
already getting a lot of the 
targets he's best at. 

848
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,120
He's not going to be the one 
running the choice routes on 3rd

849
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:10,520
down. 
That's what Josh Downs thought. 

850
00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:12,720
He's not going to be the one 
that they use as the index of 

851
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:14,920
their RPO game. 
That's the tight end position is

852
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,440
Tyler Warren's job. 
So I still think he is what he 

853
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:22,200
is, which is a really elite, 
deep threat who's expanded his 

854
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,400
intermediate role a bit on dig 
routes and comebacks and things.

855
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,560
Yeah, I'd have a hard time 
drafting where he's going, but 

856
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:36,240
he's a really nice real life 
player and it is what it is. 83 

857
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:42,360
Leg Up Pick. 75 ADP Alec Pierce.
I'm also exactly at 83. 

858
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:47,120
So, yeah, I think, you know, 
obviously he gets this big 

859
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,320
contract. 
The Colts managed to convince 

860
00:42:49,320 --> 00:42:51,480
him to stay. 
He you know, he says I'm 

861
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,360
leaving. 
They're like, Oh my God, we're 

862
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,200
going to lose Alec Pierce. 
What are we going to do? 

863
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,400
And they make sure they bring 
him back. 

864
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:02,080
I mean, I do think they probably
have an offense that's a little 

865
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,600
bit more Alec Pierce focus. 
It would be hard not to they 

866
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:06,960
they got rid of Michael Pittman.
You know, I don't think 

867
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:11,040
literally every Pittman and and,
you know, I don't think every 

868
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,960
Downs and and Warren are going 
to be soaking up all those 

869
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,080
Pitman targets and some of them 
will go to Pierce, right. 

870
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:21,960
So, yeah, I mean, at the same 
time, I mean, he's he's kind of 

871
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,960
who he is. 
I saw Matt Harmon charted him 

872
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:30,400
and he was like, yeah, kind of 
kind of looked like Alec Pierce.

873
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:36,240
You know, he's he's Alec Pierce.
You know, I I don't think that 

874
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,800
you can kind of like just make 
him a number one. 

875
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,960
I know he's talking like he 
wants to be a number one and all

876
00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,000
this stuff. 
I'd be a little bit more 

877
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:45,480
interested if he had gone 
somewhere else. 

878
00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:50,560
I, I'm, I don't know, like what,
what is the, what's the, the 

879
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:53,600
state of the cults right now? 
Jacob, like Daniel Jones wants 

880
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,320
50 million a year. 
Are you going to rescind the tag

881
00:43:56,320 --> 00:43:57,920
and sign Kyler? 
What Like what's? 

882
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:59,440
No, we're not. 
Well, we're not going to do that

883
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:02,640
because we're not smart. 
We're, we're, I, I, I've been 

884
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,960
consistent upon this and I think
I've been backed up is that what

885
00:44:05,960 --> 00:44:08,320
we're going to do is we're going
to sign Daniel Jones to a 

886
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,920
contract. 
We shouldn't and he will play 

887
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:14,280
Week 1 and play badly. 
And I, I maintain that you've 

888
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:16,880
been pretty good. 
Nothing this happened this 

889
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,840
offseason has pushed me off of 
they're signing. 

890
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:20,600
Pierce and they're tagging 
Jones. 

891
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,040
Here we are. 
I did say we're signing. 

892
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,600
From a great place. 
And we're irresponsibly signing 

893
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:29,640
Daniel Jones, and I maintained 
that throughout. 

894
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:31,960
You didn't cut Pittman, but you 
traded him. 

895
00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:34,560
We'll give. 
It to you we traded him for, not

896
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:35,720
for nothing. 
Or nothing, Yeah. 

897
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:40,120
We traded him to turn our seven 
into a six. 

898
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,840
Yeah. 
That's disgusting from a bill 

899
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:45,680
standpoint to see, by the way. 
I mean just yeah, I mean, the 

900
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:47,040
the I couldn't have just done 
that. 

901
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,600
Why couldn't the bills of? 
No, you gotta, you gotta buy, 

902
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,320
you gotta buy the top on DJ 
Moore, who I thought was more 

903
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,680
likely to be cut than to. 
Play for the Bears. 

904
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:56,680
In the coming. 
Season. 

905
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,280
Let's talk about DJ Moore 
because here's the thing that 

906
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,040
shocked me the most all day of 
anything is I didn't know any of

907
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,040
Pat's rankings before I made 
mine. 

908
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,320
It's funny that we've had two 
that have been the exact same on

909
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:11,120
Pearson ETN. 
I have DJ Moore ranked higher 

910
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,640
than legendary upside. 
I never thought I would have DJ 

911
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:16,800
Moore ranked higher than anyone 
my. 

912
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,400
What a moment in. 
The National Football League, I 

913
00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:22,560
have them all the way up at 200 
or I have them at 69. 

914
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,240
Nice, nice 69 ranking for DJ 
Moore. 

915
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,640
So why? 
Why do you hate DJ more so much,

916
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:31,800
Pat? 
For once. 

917
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:34,440
I mean, I'm going. 
To move him down. 

918
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:36,960
Yeah, you should move him down. 
Probably is why? 

919
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,680
Because this guy's not it's it's
it's been so bad, man. 

920
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:45,920
And then like. 
You've been so right, is what 

921
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,560
you're saying. 
You've been so right, you've 

922
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,920
been so right. 
This guy, he's giving up on 

923
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:52,160
routes. 
Like it doesn't make any sense 

924
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,040
that they did this. 
I know that this is one of those

925
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:57,840
classic, you know the comment 
earlier about like, well, they 

926
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,400
just paid all this forum like 
they surely have to use them. 

927
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:06,080
Like we play these rankings are 
for BBM and big board and those 

928
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,480
types of tournaments we're 
playing. 

929
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:09,640
We're you know, all the money's 
at the end of the year. 

930
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:15,440
It's like the commitment that an
idiotic GM, let's be honest, I 

931
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:20,320
mean, this guy has no idea what 
he's doing and it just doesn't 

932
00:46:20,320 --> 00:46:22,040
mean that much. 
Once we get to the end of the 

933
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:24,080
season, it'll be helpful in the 
beginning of the year. 

934
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,480
I'm sure they'll have some plays
drawn up. 

935
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,080
We're going to see some cool 
might be a kind of a cool screen

936
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:31,440
in Week 2, but I don't think 
that stuff's sticking around. 

937
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:35,280
And Moore is just he's falling 
off a lot. 

938
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,520
Like he had 1.24 yards per hour 
run last year, 1.44 the year 

939
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:41,960
before that. 
Last year I was in a Ben Johnson

940
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,520
offense like that. 
This is a pretty favorable place

941
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,360
to play football. 
And he was useless. 

942
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:52,000
And so then he goes, he goes to 
a much worse offensive mind in 

943
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,720
in Joe Brady. 
Like, I don't, I don't think Joe

944
00:46:53,720 --> 00:46:56,280
Brady's like bottom the barrel, 
but he's not Ben Johnson. 

945
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,000
And yeah, there's, there's, 
there's targets for sure. 

946
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:07,440
But like on on plays where 
they're all on the field, is DJ 

947
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,440
Moore better at earning a target
than Khalil Shakur or Dalton 

948
00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:12,880
Kincaid? 
You know, we've got health stuff

949
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,040
with Kincaid. 
We've got, we've got, we've got 

950
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:17,280
route stuff with Shakur. 
But I'm just like, what am I 

951
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:20,560
even getting from a talent 
perspective here at this point? 

952
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,080
Well, and also here's another 
thing, the catchable target rate

953
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:25,600
stuff gets brought up with DJ 
Moore a lot. 

954
00:47:25,880 --> 00:47:30,160
He's he's ridiculously hard to 
throw to because he he loves to 

955
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,280
improvise on on his Rd. 
So he's never where you think 

956
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:34,280
he's going to be. 
He's where he. 

957
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:37,560
Wants great, great train. 
So and so the catchable target 

958
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,320
rate is always going to be a 
little bit wonky because you're 

959
00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:41,560
playing a guessing game with 
where DJ Moore is going to be on

960
00:47:41,560 --> 00:47:47,240
the field. 
But anyways, DJ Moore 2020 

961
00:47:47,240 --> 00:47:52,280
through 2023 was maybe not like 
an elite wide receiver one, but 

962
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,000
was at least like a lower end 
NFL wide receiver one. 

963
00:47:56,400 --> 00:47:59,760
Was always has always been great
as the ball in hand after the 

964
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,200
cash player, but also was like a
legitimately good if not elite 

965
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:05,680
man covered beater. 
Could play any of the three wide

966
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,320
receiver positions on the 
football field. 

967
00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:08,960
Could win intermediate, could 
win deep. 

968
00:48:09,720 --> 00:48:11,760
That stuff has mostly been once 
dried up. 

969
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:18,280
Like take away the the fatigue 
effort route, improv stuff that 

970
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,360
drives me crazy. 
Like just watch him in raps 

971
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,080
versus press and coverage on the
outside trying to win deep. 

972
00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:28,120
He doesn't win consistently 
anymore in the way that he used 

973
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:32,920
to in 2020 through 2023. 
And so he's kind of a 

974
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:37,960
intermediate elite ball and hand
yak guy, which is funny because 

975
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,880
the Bills have built an entire 
team of short area ball and head

976
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:42,440
yak. 
Guys. 

977
00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,400
So if you were to say like, we 
need to go get a guy who can 

978
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,360
actually win deep and 
intermediate and do the true 

979
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,280
wide receiver one things, I just
don't think that that's DJ 

980
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:53,160
Moore. 
I think he's like closer to Debo

981
00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:55,800
Samuel than the way that he is 
perceived. 

982
00:48:55,800 --> 00:49:00,040
But I mean, it's obviously for 
his specific fantasy value. 

983
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,920
It's an A+ landing spot. 
You couldn't ask for a better 

984
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,160
opportunity for sure than 
Buffalo. 

985
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,800
So I've moved him up, but I I 
don't love the real life signing

986
00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,520
for Buffalo and I I doubt that 
I'll be ahead of ADP on him 

987
00:49:12,560 --> 00:49:14,880
where and stop because I mean, 
I've seen a lot of people 

988
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:18,800
already saying the the the the 
other side of the slap sis is 

989
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,360
all in on the DJ Moore will 
outscore Luther burden this 

990
00:49:21,360 --> 00:49:24,680
year. 
You know DJ Moore is is going to

991
00:49:24,680 --> 00:49:25,640
be. 
I've seen people. 

992
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:27,560
Saying I don't even think that 
side of the laps. 

993
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,080
Fantasy this year. 
I don't even think that side of 

994
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:32,800
this lapses believes that. 
I think that is like a like a 

995
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,240
death rattle, like you know, 
when someone dies and. 

996
00:49:35,240 --> 00:49:36,920
Then. 
They'll hear the brats. 

997
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,760
DJ Moral. 
Outscore Luther. 

998
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:44,040
Those people are have been like,
I mean, those people have a lot 

999
00:49:44,040 --> 00:49:45,680
of wins over our side of this 
lapses. 

1000
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:48,080
So maybe they're just feeling 
very confident. 

1001
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,920
But I don't even think anyone 
actually believes that like 

1002
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:55,120
Luther burden is actually such 
an insanely good fantasy pick. 

1003
00:49:55,160 --> 00:50:00,280
I bet even Big Fantasy will get 
into Luther Burden. 

1004
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,680
Could be a first round pick next
year like I like Matthew Berry. 

1005
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,600
Will yeah, I think you're right.
Like like Matthew Berry will be 

1006
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,440
in on burden the the 
footballers. 

1007
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,400
Can he not? 
We're behind. 

1008
00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:12,880
We're behind ADP on burden like 
burden isn't. 

1009
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,080
Oh. 
Come on, Pat. 

1010
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:16,760
We are. 
We're slow behind 43. 

1011
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:19,160
What, what what? 
What is your? 

1012
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,960
ADP. 
What, what ranking do you have 

1013
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:23,480
on him, Cal? 
No, no, we're one pick behind 

1014
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:28,360
our ranking is 44 and he's an. 
AP of 43 What do you have values

1015
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:30,480
anymore? 
Do you believe in something? 

1016
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,560
I haven't ranked. 
I haven't ranked 38. 

1017
00:50:34,320 --> 00:50:37,480
I'm 36 so I shocking. 
You were you were panicked that 

1018
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:39,000
you might actually be behind, 
slightly behind. 

1019
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,720
Whatever. 
Whatever Davis would have said, 

1020
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:42,200
if I needed to move them up, I 
would have I. 

1021
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:43,680
Was just going to move them up 
on the. 

1022
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:44,560
Fly. 
Oh, I would have. 

1023
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,480
I'll put them on one if I have 
to. 

1024
00:50:47,360 --> 00:50:51,280
Well, just I want to say 
generally about more from the 

1025
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:55,960
bills, you know, from our 
standpoint here is really it's 

1026
00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,120
an upgrade. 
Of course, all the things you 

1027
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,160
guys have said are points well 
taken. 

1028
00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:05,880
It's just an incredible price to
have to give up a second and 

1029
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:08,800
yeah, you get a fifth back. 
It's an incredible price to see 

1030
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,320
Pittman go for what he did. 
And I would have liked that more

1031
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:14,920
in a vacuum, no pun intended, 
than DJ Moore. 

1032
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,480
So I. 
Just I would rather have Michael

1033
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,400
Pittman than DJ Moore, straight 
up. 

1034
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,640
Yeah, they went into free 
agency, PAT with the second 

1035
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,760
highest cap number at wide 
receiver in the league behind 

1036
00:51:27,760 --> 00:51:29,680
Cincinnati, and nobody thought 
they were good. 

1037
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:32,160
Then they cut Curtis Samuel and 
now it's still 4th. 

1038
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:37,040
So it's everybody like overpaid 
by 2.5 X or something. 

1039
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:41,600
And they had to guarantee DJ 
Moore for three years at his 

1040
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,080
price. 
I I think it's just. 

1041
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:47,520
It's a weird move too, because 
like to me, if you're going to 

1042
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:51,000
do this, I think like I think 
Pittman, it sucks that he wants 

1043
00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:55,520
to the the Steelers because you 
know, it's just useless there. 

1044
00:51:55,520 --> 00:52:02,160
But like he is a solid outside 
possession receiver who I think 

1045
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:04,160
in like kind of earned targets a
decent rate. 

1046
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:08,360
Like he's he he brings some 
value to a team and he also 

1047
00:52:08,360 --> 00:52:12,920
brings the type of value that's 
like probably not super easily 

1048
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,840
replaced in this wide receiver 
class. 

1049
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,560
I would compare him to like a 
Jacoby Myers or something. 

1050
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,240
You're like, hey, look, a 
professional receiver. 

1051
00:52:21,240 --> 00:52:23,880
He's not like that great, but 
he's like pretty solid. 

1052
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,440
Let's add him to the crew and 
he'll like help take pressure 

1053
00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,840
off the quarterback. 
And then if you want like a 

1054
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:33,720
burner or like a guy you can do 
like gadgety stuff with, there's

1055
00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:39,040
both exist like like there's 
like 3 or 4 of each in this 

1056
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:41,520
receiver class. 
So why not just like trade a 

1057
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,280
sixth round pick? 
Not even for Pittman. 

1058
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,560
You get one year of him. 
You can re sign him if you want 

1059
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:49,240
or just let him walk. 
Pittsburgh. 

1060
00:52:49,880 --> 00:52:51,800
Yeah, right. 
But that's your choice is the 

1061
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:56,400
Bills and then get a Ted Hurst 
if you want to get exact right 

1062
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,680
branch if you want a guy you can
throw underneath stuff too. 

1063
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,560
Or if you want to go routes, you
get Hurst or Brazzle or you 

1064
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:04,000
know, there's like there's so 
many of these guys are like if 

1065
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,000
you just want some juice in a 
specific area, like, you know, a

1066
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,320
guy who can maybe grow into a 
bigger role over time. 

1067
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:13,520
But like starts out just like 
giving your offense this punch 

1068
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:14,840
and this one thing you're 
missing. 

1069
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,360
You can spend a third round pick
and get a guy like that this 

1070
00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:20,240
year. 
So I don't know this. 

1071
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,600
That's all. 
That's right. 

1072
00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:23,920
This isn't going to make you 
feel better or any Bills fan 

1073
00:53:23,920 --> 00:53:27,040
feel better. 
But Davis, you like this number 

1074
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:33,840
of players, coaches and maybe I 
guess management that the Bills 

1075
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:39,680
have brought in that have 
Carolina experience since Sean 

1076
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:44,480
McDermott showdowns in 2017. 
Yeah, This is, this is getting 

1077
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,080
the, this is getting the band 
back together. 

1078
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,520
This is like how I, I assume 
they do this in the NHL. 

1079
00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:53,200
This is a very common trope in 
European soccer where managers 

1080
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:56,640
move quite freely. 
Guys will just like coach A-Team

1081
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,160
for a season, then leave, then 
leave, then leave. 

1082
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:00,520
And they'll do it time after 
time. 

1083
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:03,240
And every time they leave, 
they'll like get like their 

1084
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:06,480
favorite Binky like defensive 
midfielder to come with them. 

1085
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,160
This, this is like like 
Pepperoniola would always play 

1086
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,720
his guys. 
Yes, the number is 50 and we 

1087
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:16,720
have for the certain time 
around. 

1088
00:54:16,720 --> 00:54:19,160
After last time, whatever the 
number I thought it was going to

1089
00:54:19,160 --> 00:54:21,280
be, I did not think the number 
was going to be 50. 

1090
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:23,200
I had to get it in. 
Oh my God, whatever. 

1091
00:54:24,760 --> 00:54:30,200
Whatever the Buffalo Bills 
recreating the 2020 Carolina 

1092
00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,400
Panthers in the aggregate is not
what I thought that like, their 

1093
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,640
goal should be. 
I agree with that. 

1094
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:39,200
So what about you? 
What about the Bills backing out

1095
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:41,280
of the DJ Moore trade? 
Do you think they could pull 

1096
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,160
that off? 
I don't. 

1097
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,000
Know is I expect to see a 
picture of DJ Moore with a pen 

1098
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,120
in his hand tomorrow on the 
official first day of the new 

1099
00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:48,280
league year. 
But maybe not. 

1100
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:50,200
Maybe there's a? 
Apparently was a failed physical

1101
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,880
for for what else do we Yeah 
that gives you some hope I think

1102
00:54:53,880 --> 00:54:56,240
for more once he gets around 
taking that physical come. 

1103
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,360
On. 
I mean, this is this is my 

1104
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,200
biggest issue with Joe Brady. 
Just generally, I think it's 

1105
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,240
like it always feels like he's 
very stubbornly like wanting to 

1106
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:08,680
do things his way and kind of 
folding everyone into it. 

1107
00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:11,240
And it just, it fits in with 
everything that I think of Joe 

1108
00:55:11,240 --> 00:55:15,000
Brady to be like, well, I've 
been told we need to add a wide 

1109
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:17,280
receiver. 
An old guy I I. 

1110
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,080
And I watched. 
This guy five years ago, so 

1111
00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:22,400
like, we're getting him. 
What's the cost? 

1112
00:55:22,600 --> 00:55:24,080
Sure. 
Oh, don't you want to hear any 

1113
00:55:24,080 --> 00:55:25,080
of the other options? 
Nope. 

1114
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,480
This is my guy. 
Like that just feels like. 

1115
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,880
Kind of, yeah. 
We need a guy who can do this, 

1116
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:34,800
these things like his guy. 
And it's not like a value 

1117
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:36,240
equation. 
It's just we're going to get our

1118
00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:37,920
guy. 
Wait, we have to trade a second 

1119
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:42,680
round pick to give two years, 49
million guaranteed for DJ Moore.

1120
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,680
Oh, and we're going to also 
guarantee another 13 million in 

1121
00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:48,240
2028. 
Like, yeah, sure. 

1122
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:49,640
It's just, yeah, it's a. 
Wild. 

1123
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:51,640
I mean Davis. 
It's a great list. 

1124
00:55:51,640 --> 00:55:54,440
I'll send it to you. 50 names. 
I think my favorite name of all 

1125
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,240
is New Bills Senior Assistant. 
John. 

1126
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,920
Fox, John Fox Why would John Fox
not be involved? 

1127
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,760
You have to have John Fox in a 
situation like this. 

1128
00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,600
I mean, there is something with 
the DJ Moore thing, we're like 

1129
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:16,480
in 2012, he would have been like
a third or fourth round fantasy 

1130
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,880
pick off of this move, right? 
It's like it's DJ Moore, man. 

1131
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:21,440
Like he's going to play with 
Josh Allen. 

1132
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:27,520
So maybe like, I suppose because
he's so discounted from like, 

1133
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,280
you know, the ridiculous price 
that maybe maybe you could pay 

1134
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,880
this off just based on them 
design the offense around him. 

1135
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,000
But like, I don't know, this is 
just, this is the type of bet to

1136
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,720
me that we don't want to be 
making. 

1137
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:44,000
Like this is a, this is like a 
big downside element to this. 

1138
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,840
And it's hard. 
It's honestly hard for me to see

1139
00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:49,600
the true upside of it because it
relies on like stuff from 

1140
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:51,360
literally four or five years ago
at this point. 

1141
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:53,600
Can we talk? 
Brian Thomas. 

1142
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,200
Sure. 
What's the play? 

1143
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:01,200
I mean, is he going to you have 
been 71 Pat AD PS 58 1/2. 

1144
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,760
We had that he was being shopped
and then we had that he is not 

1145
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,040
being shopped today. 
If he's still on Jacksonville, 

1146
00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,920
which has got to be the 
likeliest scenario. 

1147
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,720
What do we want to do? 
End of 6. 

1148
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:16,760
I'm in 66, you have him 71. 
Yeah, how can you not draft 

1149
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:18,320
Brian Thomas at the end of the 
sixth round? 

1150
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,600
I'm I'm I'm doing a lot of it. 
He goes at the end of the 5th. 

1151
00:57:24,680 --> 00:57:26,400
OK, well, yeah, that's where I 
have them ranked. 

1152
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,080
I'm I'm. 
That's where. 

1153
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,960
I would like to take them. 
You would like to take them a 

1154
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:31,440
lot. 
Interesting. 

1155
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,720
I'd love to take them at the end
of the sixth show. 

1156
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,120
Seems. 
Good, yeah. 

1157
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,720
Davis what? 
I mean I would like to be like a

1158
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:44,360
huge BTJ guy. 
Like dude. 

1159
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:48,400
Yeah, I would take. 
Profile, whatever, but like why 

1160
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:52,040
is there so much smoke if 
there's no fire like it? 

1161
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:55,240
It feels like the. 
Fantasy football community is 

1162
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,160
driving it. 
The fantasy football community 

1163
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:02,040
is the only ones talking about 
whether Brian Thomas my surely 

1164
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:05,200
not Connor Hughes and Diana 
Rosini and. 

1165
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,320
That's that's not. 
I think he's in a league. 

1166
00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:08,840
I think Connor's in a league, 
Jacob. 

1167
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,080
It's oh, oh, you've played. 
He's in a fantasy. 

1168
00:58:12,080 --> 00:58:14,280
League, I think he's like a 
fantasy league, so that's why 

1169
00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:19,480
he's talking about it, yeah. 
My what? 

1170
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:22,760
Oh, what's the what's the bit My
we do not want to trade Brian 

1171
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:25,560
Thomas Junior sure is answering 
all the questions that you 

1172
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:28,680
already have for us is is the 
situation here. 

1173
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,960
I mean, I just like generally 
speaking, once the tenor of the 

1174
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,720
conversation turns that way. 
Can you guys think of an example

1175
00:58:35,720 --> 00:58:40,000
other than Devante Adams where 
guys have I mean QJ scored all 

1176
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,920
the touchdowns. 
QJ is the best comp I I guess. 

1177
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,680
Well, no, Cujo wasn't good as a 
rookie. 

1178
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,600
No. 
I don't know who's the comp lad 

1179
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,160
Mcconkey, but they're the. 
Same absolutely elite rookie who

1180
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:53,360
then like fell off the face of 
the earth in year 2. 

1181
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:58,520
And and got and got frame mugged
by day three guy for one state, 

1182
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,360
Yeah. 
Yeah, I, I don't know, like I, I

1183
00:59:01,360 --> 00:59:04,280
legitimately, I'm surely there's
an example out there, but I, I 

1184
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:06,560
really can't think of another 
example of a rookie season that 

1185
00:59:06,560 --> 00:59:10,720
was as good as Thomas E one and 
then as disappointing year 2. 

1186
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,360
Yeah, typically it's like an off
of an injury, this type of stuff

1187
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:21,160
happens and then or there there 
are examples of guys kind of 

1188
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:27,200
emerging out of nowhere and then
becoming nothing again as a 

1189
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:28,000
rookie. 
So who was that? 

1190
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:32,080
That Dolphins UDFA. 
Alan earns. 

1191
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,120
Preston Williams. 
Preston Williams. 

1192
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,080
Oh, Preston Williams, Alan earns
was Jags. 

1193
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,680
He was Jax, but these guys 
weren't as good as Thomas was 

1194
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,160
his rookie. 
That's right. 

1195
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:42,960
That's right, Preston Williams 
had. 

1196
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:44,640
And they weren't first round 
picks either. 

1197
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,520
No, he was the undrafted, Yeah, 
yeah. 

1198
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,800
So I mean. 
Well, that's interesting because

1199
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,840
the Jaguars trumped their own 
first round pick with Hunter and

1200
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:57,720
that's the one that new regime, 
by the way, at the time, that's 

1201
00:59:57,720 --> 00:59:59,080
the one that they have to make 
work. 

1202
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,600
If he's going to play defense, 
fine. 

1203
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,240
But Thomas has the draft capital
and the young you know the youth

1204
01:00:04,240 --> 01:00:07,840
to. 
F&B worth something pretty good.

1205
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:12,160
I don't know that they need to 
try to force that through the, 

1206
01:00:12,560 --> 01:00:15,480
you know, square peg, round hole
if that's what they think he is 

1207
01:00:15,480 --> 01:00:17,520
for their offense. 
So he should be traded. 

1208
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:23,960
I would love for him to be 
traded I the the Thomas trade 

1209
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:27,440
doesn't seem like as likely 
because they keep, you know, 

1210
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:29,920
denying that anyone's. 
It's weird because they're 

1211
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:33,800
specific teams that are in and 
then also like this isn't 

1212
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:36,000
happening at all. 
So, you know, it's a it's it's a

1213
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:40,440
very kind of murky situation, 
But I don't know, I I'm worried 

1214
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,480
about Thomas if he stays in 
Jacksonville at least a little 

1215
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:48,600
bit. 
It's not just that, you know, he

1216
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,960
had this disappointing sophomore
year, but I mean, I think Hunter

1217
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,920
like looks like he could be a 
pretty good wide receiver if he 

1218
01:00:54,920 --> 01:00:56,520
actually gets played at wide 
receiver. 

1219
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,080
And then Parker WA was really 
good down the stretch last year 

1220
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:03,400
and they brought in Myers, who 
like they, I think, really value

1221
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,400
what he brings to the offense. 
Brenton Strange is a pass 

1222
01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:08,240
catching tight end probably 
going to throw six or seven 

1223
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,720
times of the game to baseball 
tooten. 

1224
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:11,960
So there's just not that many 
targets for him. 

1225
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,480
You guys are just going to let 
me get away with that. 

1226
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,400
There's I don't know, it's it's 
not a great situation if he's 

1227
01:01:19,400 --> 01:01:21,440
back in Jacksonville. 
To me, the upside is that he's 

1228
01:01:21,440 --> 01:01:23,400
traded. 
Agreed. 

1229
01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:24,560
Which I hope happens. 
Yeah. 

1230
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,960
I, I agree, I'm 66, which is a 
little higher than yours, but 

1231
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:32,040
that's, that's baking in not a 
likelihood of a trade, but a 

1232
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,960
chance of a trade. 
I I a chance of a trade, Yeah. 

1233
01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:37,240
Basically, I'm just saying I 
don't want to be at 0% if I get 

1234
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:41,040
the Brian Thomas Junior's been 
traded notification because I at

1235
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,440
that point I would want to 
stack. 

1236
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:43,800
It's weird to see who was the 
other team. 

1237
01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:45,760
It was the Giants were in and 
and. 

1238
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:48,040
The Jets. 
Both New York team. 

1239
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,960
These are not good trade 
destinations. 

1240
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:51,920
These are. 
You're gonna get plenty if he 

1241
01:01:51,920 --> 01:01:55,840
goes to The Jets, you know? 
Hang on a second, I'll get. 

1242
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,520
To The Jets. 
Let's Garrett. 

1243
01:01:57,600 --> 01:01:59,280
Talk and I will too, but I don't
know. 

1244
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:02,080
That Garrett with Gino from 50 
Decent online. 

1245
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,240
All right, let's rock'n'roll. 
I would love to see it. 

1246
01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,680
All right, maybe I'm really 
talking myself into Garrett 

1247
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:10,960
right now. 
Is that right? 

1248
01:02:11,080 --> 01:02:12,440
Where do you have I'm? 
Talking myself into Garrett a 

1249
01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,240
little bit as well, yeah. 
I'm Garrett way ahead of ATPI. 

1250
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,800
Got Garrett up. 
I was on Davidson Street the 

1251
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:20,560
other day and I drafted him. 
I've got Garrett up at 25. 

1252
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:22,920
80P39. 
I'm not, I'm not talking to 

1253
01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:26,120
myself in that much. 
Wow. 

1254
01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:29,360
That's I don't know man. 
You hack Rain did not write back

1255
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:32,880
to Gino. 
I I'm, I'm on, I'm on record. 

1256
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,040
I'm doubling down on my Gino 
Smith belief. 

1257
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,880
I, I think I'm going to as well.
I, I think I'm going to join you

1258
01:02:37,960 --> 01:02:38,760
on this. 
Yeah. 

1259
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,800
That's above a lava do. 
You know, fucking stunk last 

1260
01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:43,920
year, man. 
No, I, I I who's bad? 

1261
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,960
I have a lava hire. 
I have a lava at 21 show. 

1262
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:48,600
OK, OK. 
T Higgins, Tet. 

1263
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:49,360
A.J. 
Brown. 

1264
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:51,880
I have, let's just not lose 
sight of this. 

1265
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:57,040
Like it's it's The Jets. 
It's the, it's The Jets with 

1266
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,480
Aaron Glenn, who they clearly 
should have gotten rid of. 

1267
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,920
And then he brings in Frank 
Reich. 

1268
01:03:02,440 --> 01:03:09,800
Frank Reich is the OC Like this 
who how this is this is this is 

1269
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:14,040
2024 Patriots level stuff where 
it's just, it could just be 

1270
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,040
awful. 
And then Geno Smith, like, yeah,

1271
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:20,720
I'm sure if Geno Smith has a bad
couple games, Jets fans who he's

1272
01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,120
already played for are going to 
be really chill about it. 

1273
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:28,520
Like it's just the downside here
is as low as it's as it's ever 

1274
01:03:28,520 --> 01:03:29,960
been. 
Like this didn't raise the floor

1275
01:03:29,960 --> 01:03:33,040
on anything. 
I think it it makes kind of the 

1276
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:37,000
most likely outcome better than 
like if they just rolled with 

1277
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:39,120
fields. 
But I don't know. 

1278
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:42,880
I mean, like they could have 
signed Kyler something to some 

1279
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:45,760
stupid deal that would have been
at least a little bit like more 

1280
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,200
is that better fantasy? 
I don't convert. 

1281
01:03:48,200 --> 01:03:51,560
More drop backs into targets 
than Kyler Kyle just scramble 

1282
01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:53,480
around and shit. 
Yeah, sure. 

1283
01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:58,040
But like my base case on Gino is
that he's he's washed. 

1284
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:00,120
Like I disagree. 
Me too. 

1285
01:04:01,440 --> 01:04:03,040
So what? 
What was last year then? 

1286
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:06,000
I, I think last year was, I 
mean, he, I think he was 

1287
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,280
obviously way worse than what he
was the previous year in 

1288
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,560
Seattle, but I think he was 
actually pretty good in Seattle.

1289
01:04:11,560 --> 01:04:15,480
I think he went from like good 
to below average. 

1290
01:04:16,560 --> 01:04:18,800
But yeah, I don't think he was 
terrible. 

1291
01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,600
I don't, I don't think he was, I
don't think he is as bad as the 

1292
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:24,760
results were last year. 
The online was completely 

1293
01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,320
incompetent. 
He's, I think, pretty pressure 

1294
01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,160
sensitive at this point where I 
don't. 

1295
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:31,840
He's very pressure sensitive, 
like Donald. 

1296
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,160
The Jets have a good offensive 
line, though. 

1297
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:38,240
Yeah, and and, and the, and the,
the play calling, I mean, Chip 

1298
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,920
Kelly was calling plays and 
weren't in the playbook. 

1299
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:42,400
So that's bad. 
That is bad, you know. 

1300
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,480
I will give you that. 
I'm not, I'm not saying that 

1301
01:04:45,480 --> 01:04:47,400
Frank Reich at Aaron Glenn's 
ideal. 

1302
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:51,400
Like I really wanted to see Gino
go to like Minnesota or 

1303
01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,440
Indianapolis or something and 
then I would have really gotten 

1304
01:04:53,440 --> 01:04:56,560
in on the Renaissance. 
But I still think he could be. 

1305
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,760
I don't think he's like as turbo
washed as people think he is. 

1306
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:03,040
I don't think he went from being
like a a like the 12th best 

1307
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:05,480
quarterback in the league to 
like the 70th overnight. 

1308
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:10,080
I think he can be like the 24th 
best quarterback in the NFL. 

1309
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:12,560
The Jets offensive line is 
decent, right above Hertz. 

1310
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,480
Right above Hertz, yeah. 
It's actually The Jets. 

1311
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:19,360
The line is decent. 
You're finally getting a 

1312
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:23,160
quarterback who isn't going to 
be scrambling all the time now 

1313
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:24,880
in The Jets. 
I think that's huge for Wilson 

1314
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:28,360
and for Breece. 
I'm I'm I'm pretty optimistic 

1315
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:32,320
that they can be like semi 
competent and Carson Wentz is 

1316
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:34,720
going to be the backup. 
That's like not good, but like 

1317
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,800
could be worse. 
Carson Wentz, Yeah. 

1318
01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,880
Carson Wentz is Carson Wentz is 
going to be the backup. 

1319
01:05:43,440 --> 01:05:45,880
Yeah, 'cause Frank Reich, like 
has a like, they, they, they. 

1320
01:05:46,360 --> 01:05:47,320
Go to. 
But is that? 

1321
01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:48,840
Is that just a connection or is 
did he? 

1322
01:05:48,840 --> 01:05:50,320
Get ID a lot. 
I think it's a line. 

1323
01:05:50,320 --> 01:05:51,160
No, it's. 
ID a lot. 

1324
01:05:51,320 --> 01:05:52,880
He hasn't been signed yet, but 
it's been. 

1325
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,400
OK, OK. 
But it's going to happen. 

1326
01:05:54,800 --> 01:05:55,440
Got it. 
OK. 

1327
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,320
It's not like me just saying it 
like I think like it's going to 

1328
01:05:58,320 --> 01:06:01,160
be Carson Wentz. 
I think that would be bad for 

1329
01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,360
for Smith because, you know. 
Reich wants to get went out for 

1330
01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:05,800
Garrett. 
I'm I'm. 

1331
01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:07,800
Oh, for Garrett. 
For Garrett, sure. 

1332
01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:10,680
Let's move to Slide 8, Pat. 
OK, OK. 

1333
01:06:11,120 --> 01:06:14,960
Since we're on the subject, a 
lot of good this year we're 

1334
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:18,800
skipping through, but you know, 
QB. 

1335
01:06:19,160 --> 01:06:24,320
Part of the struggle for me with
with with Smith is that so 

1336
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:28,360
because the offensive line was 
really bad last year and, and 

1337
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:33,160
because people like The Jets 
tackles and, and, you know, film

1338
01:06:33,160 --> 01:06:35,720
wise and stuff, I think they get
kind of good marks. 

1339
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:39,640
It's treated like this is going 
to be a big time upgrade in 

1340
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:44,000
offensive line play. 
The Raiders were 22nd in pass 

1341
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:46,560
block win rate last year. 
The Jets were 26th. 

1342
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,000
The The Jets were. 15 The 
Raiders game last year like did 

1343
01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,640
it? 
Feel they were terrible. 

1344
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,400
They were terrible. 
No, it didn't It didn't. 

1345
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,920
They were 28th in in PFFS pass 
block grades as a team. 

1346
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:05,440
The Jets were 15th. 
I don't this is not him going to

1347
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,320
some really good offensive line 
situation. 

1348
01:07:09,320 --> 01:07:12,520
It's not a disaster, but like 
the Raiders had Colton Miller 

1349
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,800
get hurt last year, which is 
part of the reason they were 

1350
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:18,560
such a disaster. 
Injuries happen along the 

1351
01:07:18,560 --> 01:07:20,480
offensive line. 
Like The Jets I think are a kind

1352
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,800
of a mediocre line. 
They're not they're not a great 

1353
01:07:22,800 --> 01:07:23,720
offensive line. 
They're. 

1354
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:26,800
They. 
Are really young ones so you can

1355
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,600
talk yourself. 
You could talk progression. 

1356
01:07:28,720 --> 01:07:30,480
You certainly could talk 
yourself into that. 

1357
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:33,720
Foshanu is going to be a third 
year guy and Memu's going to be 

1358
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,800
a second year guy, so it would 
be reasonable for them to go 

1359
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:39,600
from averageable average 
starters to really good 

1360
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:41,200
starters. 
One, one of them at least, would

1361
01:07:41,200 --> 01:07:43,720
be not that shocking. 
I want to dream on this. 

1362
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:45,800
I want to dream on this. 
Like you guys, I love Garrett 

1363
01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:47,280
Wilson. 
I think he's really good. 

1364
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:49,320
I even like Adonai Mitchell. 
I think he's fun. 

1365
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,240
Bruce Hall's one of my favorite 
running backs in the league. 

1366
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:55,320
Like, I want this to work. 
The floor here is still 

1367
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,960
horrendous. 
It's still like we can't watch 

1368
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,320
Jets games. 
That's how bad the floor still 

1369
01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:04,400
is. 
Like it really this nothing. 

1370
01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:07,960
The floor has not gotten higher.
Geno Smith could be dirting 

1371
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,120
balls constantly because he's 
afraid of getting hit. 

1372
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:14,080
You know, because Pashano has a 
high ankle sprain and and Mambo 

1373
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:15,720
didn't take a step forward in 
the second year. 

1374
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:18,359
Listen, Pat, pat it. 
Could be pretty bad. 

1375
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:20,840
We can't. 
We can't lose sight of it. 3 

1376
01:08:20,840 --> 01:08:22,680
words. 
That's fair. 

1377
01:08:24,720 --> 01:08:26,399
We don't have the, we don't have
the draft. 

1378
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,399
Yet what's your stance on 
contractions? 

1379
01:08:28,439 --> 01:08:29,880
Isn't, isn't. 
That's one. 

1380
01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,600
Word. 
We'll, we'll fix it in post, but

1381
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:37,160
we don't have the draft yet. 
Remember last year everybody was

1382
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:39,640
sort of assuming Seattle's line 
would be terrible and they had a

1383
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,439
pressure sensitive quarterback 
and, you know, look out and they

1384
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:44,920
won the whole thing. 
I love such as we're telling me 

1385
01:08:44,920 --> 01:08:49,120
to watch a game on The Jets Olin
like I did man, they fucking 

1386
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,960
sucked. 
This team fucking sucked. 

1387
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:56,680
Didn't Miami the idea The Jets 
are are like like situationally 

1388
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:58,080
are an upgrade for a 
quarterback. 

1389
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,359
Like, I don't know man, they 
might not be. 

1390
01:09:00,520 --> 01:09:03,800
I don't need the captain of the 
Breece Hall family just being so

1391
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,120
negative here. 
Garrett Wilson is great. 

1392
01:09:06,520 --> 01:09:08,680
Breeze Hall is at least very 
good. 

1393
01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:12,399
Geno Smith is an actual NFL 
quarterback that isn't, you 

1394
01:09:12,399 --> 01:09:14,840
know, just. 
Unequivocally, unequivocally the

1395
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:16,600
best quarterback Garrett Wilson 
has played with. 

1396
01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:20,000
Or I guess he did have Rogers 
for that year. 

1397
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:22,960
I, I, I don't know, like Mike 
White had his moments, guys. 

1398
01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:30,160
Tie Rod Well on the QB slide. 
Elite Willis 30. 6 in October 

1399
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,880
and was really, really bad last 
year behind what could 

1400
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,760
ultimately feel like a a pretty 
similar offensive line or at 

1401
01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,279
least situations. 
So I don't know, they pick up. 

1402
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:42,960
Let's just Frank, Frank. 
Do you think Frank Wright will 

1403
01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:45,680
call the right plays? 
No, not necessarily. 

1404
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:47,359
When? 
He calls necessarily, dude, when

1405
01:09:47,359 --> 01:09:49,399
he calls the play, will it be in
the playbook? 

1406
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:51,880
You know, look through his 
wristband and be like, I do see 

1407
01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,680
Hank Scott here. 
I remember watching in season 

1408
01:09:54,680 --> 01:09:58,040
Hard Knocks the year they did 
the Colts and Frank Reich did 

1409
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:01,440
this whole analogy like, you 
know, like they at the beginning

1410
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:04,400
of the season, they all come and
he's got his big like this is 

1411
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:06,840
our metaphor for they all have 
some really stupid metaphor. 

1412
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:08,520
I've not they never show the 
good coaches. 

1413
01:10:08,520 --> 01:10:10,800
So maybe only the bad coaches do
this, but they're he's like, 

1414
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:13,840
we're we're at base camp now, 
we're climbing Everest and like 

1415
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:16,240
this is like week 7. 
We're like, you know, you know, 

1416
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:18,640
we're putting our crampons on in
week 7 or whatever. 

1417
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:21,720
It's just like really tortured 
and you could tell it's not 

1418
01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,320
resonating with anyone. 
And at the time Frank Reich was 

1419
01:10:24,320 --> 01:10:26,520
seen as this like really sharp 
offensive mind. 

1420
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:30,480
So it's like this guy seems like
he's an idiot and he can't 

1421
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:34,520
command a room whatsoever, but I
know that's wrong. 

1422
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:39,440
So it's interesting that he's 
coming off this poorly on this 

1423
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:42,080
television program when he's 
clearly good at coaching 

1424
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:44,880
football. 
It turns out the TVI think was 

1425
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,080
probably more accurate than my 
perception at the time. 

1426
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:52,240
He has been fired mid season in 
his last two NFL seasons so that

1427
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:57,920
he's got a streak going. 
Davis, Malik Willis, Tua Tug of 

1428
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,120
Aloha in Atlanta and then 
Brissett is back in Arizona. 

1429
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:07,000
So percent, I mean percent is at
least good for Trey McBride, 

1430
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:09,840
Marvin Harrison, Michael Wilson.
He will not. 

1431
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,640
Promise the starting job, by the
way. 

1432
01:11:12,320 --> 01:11:14,360
What? 
It was reported that when he 

1433
01:11:14,360 --> 01:11:16,840
signed his contract, they made 
no promises that he would start.

1434
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,440
Well, they said he's going to 
start over Minchu. 

1435
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:21,680
It'll probably, I mean it'll be 
8:00 and 8:00 right? 

1436
01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:23,760
Like one guy will get 8 games, 
the other guy they'll. 

1437
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,080
Probably be well, I think I 
think this would would would you

1438
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:28,480
say they're the betting favorite
to be the Thai Simpson team? 

1439
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:30,360
I think they're the betting 
favorite to be the Thai Simpson 

1440
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:30,920
team. 
OK. 

1441
01:11:31,080 --> 01:11:33,880
I mean, could be, could be the 
Nussmeyer team, could be the 

1442
01:11:33,920 --> 01:11:36,560
who's the other guy? 
There's a fourth guy who's like 

1443
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,480
vaguely drafted. 
Drew Aller. 

1444
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:41,400
Drew Aller. 
So, OK, let me tell you. 

1445
01:11:41,400 --> 01:11:43,200
Let me tell you this. 
Let me tell you. 

1446
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:45,960
This if if Rodney Carson back 
chasing. 

1447
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,280
No if red. 
Kings. 

1448
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:49,480
I wouldn't chase any of these 
guys. 

1449
01:11:49,480 --> 01:11:54,040
Which I'm certain they don't. 
If I could get 12:50 on Drew 

1450
01:11:54,120 --> 01:11:58,280
Aller to be either a first round
pick or the second quarterback 

1451
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,280
taken I I would do it. 
Drew Aller is who's like a 

1452
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,640
really good comp for him. 
Like you know how scouts love to

1453
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:06,640
say shit like. 
Oh, he just looks like way more 

1454
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:11,240
high variance Will Levis. 
Honestly, very good comp. 

1455
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,920
Very very good comp. 
Jacob, that's not good. 

1456
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,960
If you were. 
Like what if Will Levis had more

1457
01:12:17,960 --> 01:12:19,160
turnover issues? 
I'm not. 

1458
01:12:19,320 --> 01:12:21,520
I'm not saying. 
Will Levis with his head cut 

1459
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:25,360
off, that's a good job. 
I'm not, I'm not saying he's 

1460
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:26,640
good. 
I'm not saying he's good. 

1461
01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:28,480
Oh my. 
I'm just saying I think some 

1462
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:32,040
there's there is one scout Jacob
Eason. 

1463
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:34,120
Yeah, I I love that. 
I love that. 

1464
01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:36,160
Levis should be on a new team, 
by the way. 

1465
01:12:36,680 --> 01:12:37,960
Somebody could like him a little
bit. 

1466
01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:41,160
Very true. 
I'd rather take a shot on Mason 

1467
01:12:41,160 --> 01:12:44,880
Rudolph than Will Levis. 
Really, we're leaving a shot on 

1468
01:12:44,960 --> 01:12:47,840
Will Levis I would love to take.
A shot on We're gonna take no 

1469
01:12:47,880 --> 01:12:49,160
shots. 
On the Will Levis, we're naming 

1470
01:12:49,200 --> 01:12:52,520
some. 
Guys, I am like susceptible to 

1471
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:54,200
this guy looks like a 
quarterback type. 

1472
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:56,400
Drew. 
He doesn't look like a 

1473
01:12:56,400 --> 01:12:59,480
quarterback, though. 
Levis is too like, tight in 

1474
01:12:59,480 --> 01:13:00,760
here. 
He's like, too jacked. 

1475
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,840
His arms are like, you know, 
he's not, it's not. 

1476
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:06,200
He's not loose. 
The point is. 

1477
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:08,720
Throw the ball. 
The point is Arizona will have 

1478
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:09,920
one of these people. 
I agree. 

1479
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:12,640
You don't. 
Baseball players don't look like

1480
01:13:12,840 --> 01:13:14,920
Olympic weight lifters, you know
what I mean? 

1481
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,200
Like you got to stay like. 
What's the update? 

1482
01:13:17,200 --> 01:13:19,320
The Saber score while Pat goes 
into his body. 

1483
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,880
You talk that. 
Would be that would be your 

1484
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:25,040
advice now idea about everyone 
what? 

1485
01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:27,600
Are you doing? 
I want everyone to handicap the 

1486
01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:31,000
odds that Malik Willis has the 
Trey Lance disaster season where

1487
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:32,600
it's like this guy just can't 
play quarterback. 

1488
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,840
One and two. 
What'd he say? 

1489
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:38,480
I said 1 and 2. 
Yeah, that. 

1490
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:42,400
Yeah, it's it's very live. 
It's that was so yes, yeah, that

1491
01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:45,480
was such a Jacob, you just went 
full Commonwealth right there. 

1492
01:13:45,480 --> 01:13:48,280
You just went, you just did 
full, you just went full Euro 

1493
01:13:48,280 --> 01:13:51,440
odds on us right there. 
Is this why you guys are better 

1494
01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:53,320
at math than than? 
Oh, like you mean you want you 

1495
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:55,720
wanted me to say 5050, not one 
and two? 

1496
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,040
Or or plus plus even money plus 
100 it's. 

1497
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,320
Not. 
It's actually not it's, it's not

1498
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,760
because of that. 
Like do you guys just play odds 

1499
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:06,160
when you're out drinking with 
your friends? 

1500
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,960
It sounds different. 
Like I have like 2 buddies in 

1501
01:14:09,960 --> 01:14:11,960
town like this weekend and it's 
like all weekend. 

1502
01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,960
Like you're sitting at a bar, 
you have a full beer and your 

1503
01:14:13,960 --> 01:14:16,600
buddy's like odds you finished 
that and I'm like 1 and four and

1504
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:19,000
then someone counts you down. 
He goes 321 we. 

1505
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:20,400
Wouldn't we? 
Would never. 

1506
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:21,480
If the one touched. 
The beard. 

1507
01:14:21,480 --> 01:14:23,520
We would never do odds that way.
I don't. 

1508
01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,120
Yeah, sounds like I haven't 
played. 

1509
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,000
This if I say so if you say what
are the odds of this like and I 

1510
01:14:28,000 --> 01:14:30,880
say one and two and then Pat 
would be like 321 and. 

1511
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,280
If you ask me what are the odds 
I would convert it, I would 

1512
01:14:34,280 --> 01:14:37,040
convert it to a money line. 50% 
as well. 

1513
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,840
This is why America's. 
Test scores are down a number. 

1514
01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:41,160
We have to. 
We have to convert things. 

1515
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:45,480
To money line what? 
Numbers the fraction. 5050 seems

1516
01:14:45,480 --> 01:14:48,200
easy. 
But, but, but OK, but what if 

1517
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:51,160
you were to say 1? 
Because if you say 1 and 4, we 

1518
01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,680
can each say any number between 
1:00 and 4:00 and we have to say

1519
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:55,600
the same number for me to have 
to drink. 

1520
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:58,520
So it's a one and four chance we
say the same number, but if you 

1521
01:14:58,520 --> 01:15:02,720
were like 25% or like plus 300, 
I'd have to think. 

1522
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,880
No, you're right. 
You are right. 

1523
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:08,280
Like to be clear, Yeah, you're. 
Playing a game? 

1524
01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:10,640
Wait, you're playing a game 
where everybody in the group is 

1525
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:12,880
guessing a different percent 
chance that you would finish the

1526
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:15,920
beer? 
No, what it is is. 

1527
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,080
No, what it is is I have a full 
beer and Shob looks at me and 

1528
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:22,080
he's like, odds you finished 
that? 

1529
01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:27,960
And I say one and four. 
And so then Pat goes 321 and me 

1530
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:30,200
and Choke have to say a number 
between 1:00 and 4:00 at the 

1531
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:32,920
same time. 
And if we say the same number, I

1532
01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,080
have to finish it. 
And if we don't and I say 

1533
01:15:35,080 --> 01:15:37,480
reverse, we go again. 
And if we see the same number, 

1534
01:15:37,480 --> 01:15:40,680
you have to finish the beer. 
What I'm telling you is that 

1535
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:42,360
Americans just wouldn't do this.
What? 

1536
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:44,600
Is this game? 
It sounds great. 

1537
01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:46,200
It's. 
Interesting. 

1538
01:15:46,400 --> 01:15:47,920
Great. 
I just need to print it out. 

1539
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:49,960
I need to print it out so I can 
sort of brass but. 

1540
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:51,680
But the thing because. 
Now we're playing The Settlers 

1541
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:53,960
of Catan at Beer at a bar, I 
think. 

1542
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:56,360
The thing that would frustrate? 
ME is the longest Rd. 

1543
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,440
You have to be on the same page 
about how often you're playing 

1544
01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:00,960
it right? 
Because if like someone's just 

1545
01:16:00,960 --> 01:16:04,680
going nuts like every 10 
seconds, Yeah, well, that seems 

1546
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,880
then I would get. 
Ongoing, it's like a Bender 

1547
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:10,880
every like, yeah, well, yeah, 
someone seems like they're being

1548
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,440
slow. 
It's kind of the thing the 

1549
01:16:12,440 --> 01:16:15,200
question, like it's like 
everybody else is done and one 

1550
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,360
guy's nursing their beer. 
It's like, all right, Pat, odds 

1551
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,760
you finish. 
Just drink the beer. 

1552
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,000
But I mean, like we have all 
sorts of drink. 

1553
01:16:22,000 --> 01:16:24,240
I mean, I'm sure everyone in the
chat's familiar with various 

1554
01:16:24,240 --> 01:16:26,560
drinking games. 
Like that's what, I don't know 

1555
01:16:26,560 --> 01:16:28,520
if you guys know this, but when 
you play drink games, you drink 

1556
01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:29,960
more than you would have 
otherwise. 

1557
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:33,640
That's what this is. 
This is still the question of 

1558
01:16:33,640 --> 01:16:36,400
whether Malik Willis will have 
Trey Lances career. 

1559
01:16:36,480 --> 01:16:41,200
Just drink your own beer. 
That's the question the most 

1560
01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,200
anti drink. 
I'm worried. 

1561
01:16:43,240 --> 01:16:45,960
I'm worried that Malik Willis 
has now crossed. 

1562
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:49,720
Grateful to be sober. 
He's crossed the slap a con 

1563
01:16:50,240 --> 01:16:57,480
where where his price now is not
waiting both the disaster risk 

1564
01:16:57,480 --> 01:17:00,640
with the he runs for 800 yards 
and eight touchdowns risk. 

1565
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:03,920
Like, I don't know where that 
line is, but I think he's passed

1566
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,600
the slap a con. 
Jacob just quietly stepped away.

1567
01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,880
Can we talk about how insane 
that was the last five minutes? 

1568
01:17:09,480 --> 01:17:11,440
I think it was fun. 
I, I, I, it was fun. 

1569
01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:14,400
I was on board. 
No, I think the game sounds fun.

1570
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:17,560
I buy, listen, I have to like be
like wait, wait 15 years 

1571
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:19,640
younger. 
I'd say a thing, then you'd say 

1572
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,000
a thing and then he says he 
counts you down and then he says

1573
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,680
he says reverse, reverse. 
We'll play right now. 

1574
01:17:25,880 --> 01:17:28,920
Let's play right now. 
You tell. 

1575
01:17:29,440 --> 01:17:31,040
Tell you because I want Shove to
do it. 

1576
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:32,280
Because he seems the most 
confused. 

1577
01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:35,400
Yeah. 
Tell Jacob odds you finish that 

1578
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:36,920
beer. 
Just say odds you finish that 

1579
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,640
beer, Jacob. 
In how much time? 

1580
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:41,480
No, just that's it. 
That's all you say. 

1581
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:44,480
Say odds you finish that beer. 
Just just odds. 

1582
01:17:44,800 --> 01:17:47,400
Like odds? 
No Joe 9 and. 10. 

1583
01:17:47,800 --> 01:17:49,320
Sign in. 
Time 2 words. 

1584
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:52,080
Jacob odds you finish. 
That beer. 

1585
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:55,480
I am the host, one, one and one 
and two show. 

1586
01:17:56,800 --> 01:17:58,400
Odds you finish that beer all 
right, One and two. 

1587
01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:03,800
All right, count us down. 32. 
1-2 show. 

1588
01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:06,240
Good to see a number show. 
Two, I just did OK. 

1589
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,720
He said too. 
Jacob finished the beer now he 

1590
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:10,800
said it late after hearing yours
there we. 

1591
01:18:11,320 --> 01:18:12,720
Go no. 
I was going with the premise 

1592
01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,640
that he would finish it. 
Why would you get it? 

1593
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:16,040
Why would you pour it and not 
finish it? 

1594
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,440
I mean, of course he's going to 
finish it in one. 

1595
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:19,960
I didn't think you'd do it this 
fast. 

1596
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,120
We're now. 
Now we got to. 

1597
01:18:22,360 --> 01:18:23,240
Chug it. 
Choke. 

1598
01:18:23,320 --> 01:18:26,520
Is it chug it he did. 
Yeah, because we said the same 

1599
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,640
number. 
Now it's been demonstrated 

1600
01:18:31,480 --> 01:18:33,960
audience. 
I explained one in a million. 

1601
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,760
Just cut this all out on the 
audio, Zach. 

1602
01:18:36,760 --> 01:18:37,960
In post. 
We'll get it in post. 

1603
01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:41,920
My mom called me this week 
because Brittany had sent her a 

1604
01:18:41,920 --> 01:18:46,280
Venmo and she didn't get the 
Venmo, but then she, but she'd 

1605
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:51,840
sent a Venmo to my brother's 
mother-in-law for like a smaller

1606
01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,120
amount than what Brittany had 
sent. 

1607
01:18:53,240 --> 01:18:56,120
And I had to like, you know, she
paid with the bounce. 

1608
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:58,040
I didn't realize. 
Anyway, this is what I feel like

1609
01:18:58,080 --> 01:18:59,840
right now. 
This is the level. 

1610
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:06,200
This is the level of discourse. 
So yeah, I think Malik Wells is 

1611
01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:12,400
fine at ADP. 
This is I'm sorry about dating 

1612
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:13,840
myself there. 
This is Chris. 

1613
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:18,880
I'm drinking the corn oil. 120. 
Cents and the peanut oil, Dave, 

1614
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,080
I don't think I don't taste much
of a difference. 

1615
01:19:21,800 --> 01:19:24,760
All right, So I like 2 in 
Atlanta. 

1616
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:27,720
Same. 
Do you guys think what? 

1617
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,000
OK, how about this? 
I mean, this is not a drinking 

1618
01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:31,840
game. 
What are the odds you think Tua 

1619
01:19:31,840 --> 01:19:34,160
starts for Atlanta this year 
over Michael Panics? 

1620
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,560
Oh my gosh, a lock. 
Very. 

1621
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:40,280
It's basically a lock that he 
starts Week 1, but I also think 

1622
01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:45,600
it's five, It's four, it's four,
it's 3. 215. 

1623
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,440
We're getting Pennix starts this
year though. 

1624
01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:49,320
Yeah. 
Probably. 

1625
01:19:49,560 --> 01:19:50,560
Like it's after, unless they're 
good. 

1626
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:52,320
Unless it works. 
New coach. 

1627
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:58,160
I think Tua is very likely to 
start week 1 and then if he is 

1628
01:19:58,160 --> 01:20:00,240
doing and then he just keeps the
job as long as they're 

1629
01:20:00,240 --> 01:20:01,880
succeeding. 
But like they probably won't 

1630
01:20:01,880 --> 01:20:03,840
succeed so then panic starts, 
right? 

1631
01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,840
Is that the? 
Yeah, exactly. 

1632
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:08,240
So I don't, I don't think, I 
don't know, I mean. 

1633
01:20:08,520 --> 01:20:11,720
They can't be good. 
For Tua specifically, wouldn't 

1634
01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:16,880
you have him go to The Jets? 
What you want? 

1635
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,560
Would you rather have Tua be in 
The Jets? 

1636
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:21,720
Because. 
He's not because he's there's no

1637
01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:26,400
competition. 
Yeah, but like Tua like I think 

1638
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:29,560
has a chance to actually be good
in the NFC South. 

1639
01:20:29,560 --> 01:20:31,360
He doesn't have to play anywhere
cold. 

1640
01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:35,560
He has to play in the Dome. 
His Rd. games are are in another

1641
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:39,080
Dome in New Orleans, Tampa Bay 
and Carolina. 

1642
01:20:39,080 --> 01:20:41,040
I like it. 
Like if he was in The Jets, like

1643
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:43,240
he would have to do the same 
shitty he already had to do. 

1644
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:45,480
Like you have to play if. 
We bunch of games we were. 

1645
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:48,120
Doing in Buffalo, New England 
like it's over. 

1646
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:50,240
Your career is done at that 
point. 

1647
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:53,560
If we go somewhere warm and 
resuscitate his value. 

1648
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:58,480
If we were doing an expansion 
draft and Tua and Michael Pennex

1649
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:01,800
were unprotected, I would take 
Michael Pennex first. 

1650
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,880
See, I think Tua goes first. 
He might go first. 

1651
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:07,480
I think Pennex is the much 
sharper way to play that. 

1652
01:21:07,600 --> 01:21:10,280
We don't know what Pennex is, we
know what Tua is. 

1653
01:21:10,640 --> 01:21:13,120
I agree with you Pat. 
I would take Pennex first in an 

1654
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:16,120
expansion draft because I think 
he has AI mean he just has way 

1655
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,520
better physical tools. 
So like, there's a ceiling 

1656
01:21:18,520 --> 01:21:19,680
there, theoretically. 
Does he? 

1657
01:21:19,680 --> 01:21:22,000
Does he have better? 
Physical tools at this stage, 

1658
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:23,960
but if if you were to tell, if 
you were, if you were to tell me

1659
01:21:23,960 --> 01:21:26,600
I have to pick one quarterback 
to start for one game that I 

1660
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:30,080
have to win, I'm taking Tua. 
Sure. 

1661
01:21:30,200 --> 01:21:31,960
Yeah, I I will. 
And that's how I do the same 

1662
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:33,440
thing. 
Yeah. 

1663
01:21:33,440 --> 01:21:37,800
They they think that until they 
see half a season of Tua and 

1664
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,520
they're like, well, what what 
you know what's behind door B 

1665
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:44,680
can't be worse than this. 
I I think in a way, this is set 

1666
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:50,920
up, this is a decent outcome for
Pennex because he's coming off 

1667
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:54,880
the ACL. 
He's going to be, it was a 

1668
01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:59,440
partially torn ACL, right. 
So they can, they can just sit 

1669
01:21:59,440 --> 01:22:01,440
him. 
They can sit him for as long as 

1670
01:22:01,440 --> 01:22:06,160
they want, but it's like, I 
think the odds of two of holding

1671
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,480
this job all year are pretty 
low. 

1672
01:22:09,320 --> 01:22:12,080
It's not an amazing situation. 
It's not a bad situation 

1673
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:16,000
necessarily, but like, why 
wouldn't you see what you have 

1674
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:17,960
in Pennix? 
Because at some point this 

1675
01:22:17,960 --> 01:22:19,480
season as the new coaching 
staff? 

1676
01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:21,560
Because if you're first place in
the division. 

1677
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,720
They're gonna be right. 
They're gonna be 5 and 4. 

1678
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,640
How? 
They have to be really bad to 

1679
01:22:25,640 --> 01:22:28,320
pull the plug. 
Terrible division, and I think 

1680
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:29,880
that's not gonna happen. 
Lots of talent. 

1681
01:22:30,440 --> 01:22:33,360
It's not a good division, is it?
Is it terrible? 

1682
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,760
Yeah, all three of the other 
teams are terrible. 

1683
01:22:36,760 --> 01:22:40,600
In the sense it's it's terrible,
in the sense of you're not going

1684
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,200
to need to win that many games 
to win it. 

1685
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:46,240
I agree there's no like truly 
horrific team but like this is a

1686
01:22:46,240 --> 01:22:48,000
division you probably win with 
ten wins. 

1687
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,160
Ten wins seems right. 
Ten wins seems right, Yeah. 

1688
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,720
So like if you're as long as 
you're sitting around 500, 

1689
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,840
you're probably with outing 
difference of of the division 

1690
01:22:57,840 --> 01:23:00,080
title. 
They finished tied for first 

1691
01:23:00,080 --> 01:23:02,080
last year. 
If they're if they're four and 

1692
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:07,680
three, if they're five and four,
like and two is doing OK, I 

1693
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:11,520
don't know. 
I I guess I think this will be I

1694
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:12,920
don't know. 
I think that they probably can 

1695
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:14,720
be like a 500 ish team. 
I mean, I don't know what's 

1696
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:16,080
happening with James Pearson is.
Leaving. 

1697
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:18,360
They just were they. 
Just theoretically have a pass 

1698
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:19,680
rush. 
Yeah, they were just an 8 and 

1699
01:23:19,680 --> 01:23:23,400
nine team with Kirk and Pennex 
giving them extremely mediocre 

1700
01:23:23,400 --> 01:23:24,680
quarterback play. 
Right. 

1701
01:23:24,680 --> 01:23:27,720
Pennex was actually like pretty 
decent in terms of, you know, 

1702
01:23:27,720 --> 01:23:31,200
EPA success rate and that you 
know, which is the metrics I 

1703
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:35,680
think are the most predictive. 
So you're like, it does feel a 

1704
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:39,400
little weird to me to go like, 
well they just did well with 

1705
01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:42,880
Pennex so therefore they'll do 
well with Tua instead of panic 

1706
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,560
like they did well with. 
Planck. 

1707
01:23:44,720 --> 01:23:47,920
So like they could play Pennex? 
Yeah, and get better with 

1708
01:23:47,920 --> 01:23:49,800
something that'll look Kirk. 
Yeah, they actually won more 

1709
01:23:49,800 --> 01:23:51,760
games with Kirk, even though he 
was worse. 

1710
01:23:51,760 --> 01:23:54,360
Yeah. 
Yeah, yeah, Penex was, was quite

1711
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:56,680
a bit better in terms of the the
metrics, but. 

1712
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:59,720
The Penex was so high variance, 
like Penex would have some games

1713
01:23:59,720 --> 01:24:01,560
where you'd watch him and be 
like, oh, like they have 

1714
01:24:01,560 --> 01:24:03,440
something here and the next. 
Yeah, score like 3. 

1715
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:05,320
Points. 
And they had a really weird 

1716
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,040
offense with Penex. 
He's playing out a pistol all 

1717
01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:10,400
the time, which makes no sense 
because he's not a dual, a dual 

1718
01:24:10,400 --> 01:24:11,560
threat or rushing threat at all.
Yeah. 

1719
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,560
So it was it was a very. 
And you know, they they've it's 

1720
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:18,440
not a great offense for Pennex 
in terms of him probably need to

1721
01:24:18,440 --> 01:24:20,640
play in their center a ton, 
which doesn't really fit him 

1722
01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,640
that well. 
So they're they may not. 

1723
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:24,640
Either, though we can't move. 
It doesn't fit Tua either. 

1724
01:24:24,640 --> 01:24:28,920
So like the whole thing is I 
don't think this is going to 

1725
01:24:28,920 --> 01:24:30,840
work. 
I don't think Tua is going to 

1726
01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:32,760
hold down. 
This job is really what it is, 

1727
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:34,320
but I think he gets the first 
crack I. 

1728
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:37,320
Think he gets the first crack. 
Also, it's important to note no 

1729
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:41,000
one in the Atlanta Falcons 
organization is at all connected

1730
01:24:41,000 --> 01:24:42,240
to the Michael Pennex pick 
anymore. 

1731
01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,840
They got rid of everybody. 
GM, coach, they're all gone. 

1732
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,160
So a whole new regime. 
The only connection right is 

1733
01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,880
Tommy Reese Tutua from Alabama, 
the the play caller. 

1734
01:24:53,200 --> 01:24:55,280
Let's let's jump to tight ends. 
I'm. 

1735
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,720
Calling for for Penix, man, if 
you're, if you're about to, I 

1736
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:01,960
don't know, let's say pay Daniel
Jones 50 million a year, maybe 

1737
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,880
just see if Michael Penix is 
available for for very cheap. 

1738
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,400
Seems fair. 
Tight ends, lots of movement. 

1739
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:11,400
Isaiah Likely to the Giants, a 
big one. 

1740
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,120
Kelsey back in Kansas City. 
Kate Otton back. 

1741
01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,280
He got his. 
He got his plucky defensive 

1742
01:25:16,280 --> 01:25:19,160
midfielder to follow him. 
I mean, this is just classic. 

1743
01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:21,360
This is just. 
What exactly can't help it? 

1744
01:25:22,800 --> 01:25:25,080
Sorry, it's just. 
Not a. 

1745
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,680
It's not the over under. 
Charlie Kolar and then Daniel 

1746
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:32,400
Bellinger with a cat tip. 
Scene see, see, this is I I got 

1747
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,360
to say, normally Zach does as 
good of work as possible. 

1748
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:38,320
The the issue here is that he 
doesn't know. 

1749
01:25:38,360 --> 01:25:41,040
Well, actually, he should know. 
I'm a huge gunner helm guy. 

1750
01:25:41,400 --> 01:25:43,920
I like I was. 
I like Gunner Helm Deep cuts, 

1751
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,480
you know? 
Like Davis, whether you like the

1752
01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:48,680
player is so irrelevant you you 
mistake everyone for everyone 

1753
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:51,440
all the time. 
That's true. 

1754
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:53,240
Is that true? 
Not never worthy? 

1755
01:25:53,240 --> 01:25:54,640
I don't think I ever got worthy 
wrong. 

1756
01:25:55,760 --> 01:25:57,920
Is that fair? 
Well, that's that's actually 

1757
01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,320
true. 
That's actually bearish for 

1758
01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:02,600
worthy. 
Yeah, you guys shouldn't catch 

1759
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:03,680
up. 
So small he's. 

1760
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:08,680
So he looks so misplaced on a 
football field that even Davis 

1761
01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:09,600
doesn't get him mixed up. 
He's. 

1762
01:26:10,920 --> 01:26:13,240
Like, oh crazy, it's the Midget 
again. 

1763
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:17,800
Jacob, do you want to do the, 
the, the well actually which one

1764
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:20,760
of you want to do the play 
action pass rate like Charlie 

1765
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:23,800
Kolar Gadsden's not a real tight
end thing, which which one of 

1766
01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,680
you guys? 
Want to Oh, I just the the the 

1767
01:26:25,680 --> 01:26:28,640
whole Charlie Kolar discourse 
was driving me crazy yesterday. 

1768
01:26:29,440 --> 01:26:33,480
Like a Rhonda Gadsden is like 
235 lbs every for his entire 

1769
01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:36,320
career, no matter how well or 
poorly it goes. 

1770
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,280
The team that employs around at 
Gadsden is also going to employ 

1771
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:42,040
a blocking tight end. 
Like we just need to accept that

1772
01:26:42,360 --> 01:26:45,440
and just move on with our lives.
Like no team is going to be like

1773
01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:47,640
first and 10. 
We're calling half back stretch 

1774
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,400
and Gadsden's with AY. 
Like it's just it's just not 

1775
01:26:50,400 --> 01:26:52,400
happening. 
So like there's going to be 

1776
01:26:52,400 --> 01:26:56,440
multiple tight ends on a roster.
Charlie Claire is going to be 

1777
01:26:56,440 --> 01:26:58,880
there blocking tight end 
Gadsden. 

1778
01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:01,720
Like I don't I don't know, like 
if you want someone who runs 90%

1779
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,800
of the routes draft Kate on if 
you want someone who's going to 

1780
01:27:04,800 --> 01:27:08,680
be receiving tight end who might
have some annoying route issues 

1781
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:11,960
on 1st and 10 or in play action 
situations, but it's going to be

1782
01:27:12,040 --> 01:27:13,960
targeted frequently and 
downfield when they're on the 

1783
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:15,560
field. 
That's Rhonda Gadsden. 

1784
01:27:15,560 --> 01:27:18,600
But like I I I don't know why we
have to do this whole thing of 

1785
01:27:19,360 --> 01:27:21,360
this is really bad. 
Like there was always going to 

1786
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:23,960
be a Charlie galore last year 
was Will distant. 

1787
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:26,120
Like there's it's going to 
happen. 

1788
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,320
Davis, when you said that John 
Harbaugh was bringing in his 

1789
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:33,280
defensive fullback, did you also
mean Patrick Ricard, who signed 

1790
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:36,520
with the Giants an hour ago? 
I mean, literally, you couldn't.

1791
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,560
You couldn't script it anymore 
perfectly. 

1792
01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:43,480
That is the same thing as Thiago
Alcantara just going with Pep 

1793
01:27:43,480 --> 01:27:45,480
Guardiola for every team he's 
ever managed. 

1794
01:27:45,480 --> 01:27:49,520
It's like some guys just have 
their spirit animal in form of a

1795
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:53,600
guy on the field, and Patrick 
Ricard is that for whichever 

1796
01:27:53,600 --> 01:27:55,600
Harbaugh is now coaching the 
Giants. 

1797
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:59,920
I always get them confused. 
Well, Mike McDaniel, Tuck Ingle,

1798
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:01,040
too. 
He brought him over. 

1799
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:04,800
To the Chargers, Yep. 
Yeah. 

1800
01:28:06,680 --> 01:28:08,480
Yeah, I mean, do. 
Every one of these play callers 

1801
01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:10,760
get their designated full back. 
They just bring with them 

1802
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,560
wherever they go. 
People have seen some people are

1803
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:18,280
tag me on like because I do this
article where I talk about play.

1804
01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:20,840
Active participation rate is 
something to keep in mind with 

1805
01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:24,040
tight ends. 
And I think it's important to 

1806
01:28:24,040 --> 01:28:26,840
understand kind of the the guys 
you're drafting and if they're 

1807
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:29,600
not playing in the run game and 
they're less likely to play on 

1808
01:28:29,600 --> 01:28:31,680
play action, which is very 
important for tight end 

1809
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,040
production. 
But we already knew that about 

1810
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,800
Aranda Gadsden like that. 
Nothing about Charlie Kohler 

1811
01:28:37,800 --> 01:28:40,240
changes anything about Aranda 
Gadsden. 

1812
01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:43,040
There's always going to be a 
blocking tight end. 

1813
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,200
To Jacob's point, Will Disley 
has been released. 

1814
01:28:46,400 --> 01:28:49,080
Kohler takes over for that. 
Kohler had 20% round 

1815
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:52,840
participation last year. 
I thought I remember him as a 

1816
01:28:52,880 --> 01:28:54,800
prospect, being somebody who 
could catch it. 

1817
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,800
I don't know his. 
He he can catch a little. 

1818
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,840
He led Iowa State in receiving 
his final season playing with 

1819
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:01,280
two other NFL players. 
Xavier. 

1820
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:02,480
Hutchinson. 
And Jalen? 

1821
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,720
Knoll. 
Yeah, but he what he's this is 

1822
01:29:06,120 --> 01:29:09,320
he's played four NFL seasons and
really hasn't been any kind. 

1823
01:29:09,400 --> 01:29:11,960
Of you know what it would be, it
would be very similar to what 

1824
01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:13,320
had already happened for the 
charge. 

1825
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:16,520
Remember how Tyler Conklin was 
just like never anything and 

1826
01:29:16,520 --> 01:29:19,600
then for for like a six week 
stretch he had to be the 

1827
01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:21,800
Chargers starting tight end. 
It was like the tight end 8IN 

1828
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,520
FFPC scoring. 
It would be. 

1829
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:26,120
It would be something like that.
I would, I mean, the, the, the 

1830
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:28,480
Conklin thing is actually he was
on the Vikings and then he went 

1831
01:29:28,480 --> 01:29:31,560
to The Jets and we thought it 
was going to be the guy's name 

1832
01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:33,040
that we couldn't pronounce. 
Remember that guy? 

1833
01:29:33,720 --> 01:29:37,720
And then Uzama. 
Uzama. 

1834
01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:38,520
Uzama. 
Yeah. 

1835
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:39,640
Uzoma. 
So we. 

1836
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:41,600
I thought you were. 
A Kenny Uboa guy? 

1837
01:29:42,040 --> 01:29:46,000
No, not Uboa Uzama so. 
So. 

1838
01:29:46,000 --> 01:29:49,200
He, he was, he like we thought 
he was the starter. 

1839
01:29:49,200 --> 01:29:53,040
Turned out to be Conklin. 
I, you know, maybe, maybe. 

1840
01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:55,760
I don't think so, though, 
because Gadsden's just a big 

1841
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:57,720
slot receiver who has tight end 
eligibility. 

1842
01:29:57,840 --> 01:29:59,280
My whole thing is like. 
Sours. 

1843
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,240
Yeah, like he likes towers. 
Don't get like the, my general 

1844
01:30:03,240 --> 01:30:05,600
point with the articles, like 
there are certain guys that 

1845
01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:07,600
their ADP's get really, really 
inflated. 

1846
01:30:07,600 --> 01:30:09,800
Like when Mike Kasicki was like,
Oh my God, this guy's going to 

1847
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:11,320
be like, amazing. 
He's like, probably not because 

1848
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,720
he doesn't run all the routes. 
He's like misses a bunch of time

1849
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:18,120
on Horton Downs, You know, like 
we try not to draft guys who 

1850
01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:21,520
don't play all the time if you 
can help it with expensive 

1851
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:24,240
picks. 
So Gadsden, I mean, I think this

1852
01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:26,520
is a confirmation that we need a
little bit of a discount 

1853
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,680
relative to like how good he is 
purely as a pass catcher. 

1854
01:30:29,680 --> 01:30:32,120
But I think we're getting that. 
I think he's a a decent pick 

1855
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:36,800
where he goes in the hundreds. 
I will not let my moderate to 

1856
01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:42,600
severe plaque psoriasis prevent 
me from drafting Uzama or Ebola 

1857
01:30:42,920 --> 01:30:46,440
or Quebenum or whatever the 
actual name of the drug. 

1858
01:30:46,880 --> 01:30:49,080
Happens quebenum I I've never 
heard that much. 

1859
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:51,200
Agent, I've never, I've never 
heard quebenum. 

1860
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,840
It's how I entered the space. 
Is being able to pronounce 

1861
01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:55,440
Alberto's actual name. 
Alberto. 

1862
01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:58,000
Can we get it one more time? 
Oh, Quebo talked over it. 

1863
01:30:58,680 --> 01:30:59,920
I talked over it again. 
One more. 

1864
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,200
TuneIn next week for more tight 
end pronunciations. 

1865
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,800
Let's can we get to last call? 
You want to peek at risers and 

1866
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:09,880
followers first or if we let's. 
Speak. 

1867
01:31:11,160 --> 01:31:13,240
DJ Moore. 
Well, OK. 

1868
01:31:13,720 --> 01:31:16,640
David Montgomery, Kenneth 
Walker, Luther Burden, Mike 

1869
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:21,000
Washington, Former UB Bull, 
Kyler Murray, Tyler Algier, 

1870
01:31:21,000 --> 01:31:24,560
Jordan Mason, Bashel Tooten, 
Mike Washington. 

1871
01:31:24,760 --> 01:31:26,440
I like him. 
I mean, I want to like him. 

1872
01:31:29,200 --> 01:31:31,720
I I want to like him, I'm just 
not convinced he's any good. 

1873
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:35,400
But I want to think he's good. 
We moved them up a bunch because

1874
01:31:35,400 --> 01:31:39,000
the draft capital stuff started 
to look, you know, at least 

1875
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:44,520
reasonably they're they're, you 
know, you can look at like his 

1876
01:31:44,520 --> 01:31:47,240
upside in terms of his draft 
capital and it's there. 

1877
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,920
Round 3 so maybe? 
Round 2 maybe? 

1878
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:52,880
Round 2 would be the upside, I 
think. 

1879
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:55,120
I think that's a realistic 
upside case, yeah. 

1880
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,000
Thoughts on Montgomery quickly 
with Houston? 

1881
01:31:58,000 --> 01:32:00,240
Is that not really good? 
Gonna keep going, gonna keep 

1882
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:02,160
going up. 
I think you'll, I think you'll 

1883
01:32:02,160 --> 01:32:04,680
get at least into the 5th, at 
least in the 5th, and he might 

1884
01:32:04,680 --> 01:32:08,080
even peek into the 4th. 
OK, 4th I would love because 

1885
01:32:08,080 --> 01:32:09,400
that would then I could say 
goodbye. 

1886
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:14,640
He he's just a good pick in the 
6th like and I get he's still in

1887
01:32:14,640 --> 01:32:19,240
the 6th sometimes, you know, in 
the 5th it's fine, it's fine. 

1888
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:22,320
4th 4th would be bad. 
So do it. 

1889
01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:25,640
So how does it take him? 
Yeah, I agree. 

1890
01:32:25,680 --> 01:32:27,320
I agree with all that. 
Yeah, I think. 

1891
01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:32,800
Fallers. 
Oh, Tyler Murray. 

1892
01:32:32,880 --> 01:32:35,040
How high is how high is Luther 
going to get, by the way? 

1893
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:36,840
Like, is it going to get to a 
point that we can't take him 

1894
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:37,840
anymore? 
Leone. 

1895
01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,880
Leone is the flood wall there. 
So whatever Leone decides. 

1896
01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:42,520
What does Leone have, Matt? 
Do we know? 

1897
01:32:43,440 --> 01:32:46,720
42 I think here I'll. 
Look it up. 

1898
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:51,200
OK, how much do we have to pay 
Leone to put him at like 51? 

1899
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:55,960
Let's see, maybe 42 might be 
high because they were. 

1900
01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:57,720
They were really like, what is 
Leonie like? 

1901
01:32:57,720 --> 01:32:59,800
Like could we get him like a 
nice bottle of Scotch? 

1902
01:32:59,800 --> 01:33:02,200
Like cars, women, like what? 
How do? 

1903
01:33:02,200 --> 01:33:04,360
You been out to? 
Leonie to rank someone lower. 

1904
01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,120
A gift card at a Thai restaurant
you know if. 

1905
01:33:07,480 --> 01:33:09,160
I, I would, I would buy him pad 
Thai. 

1906
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:10,840
I'd go to his house and make him
pad Thai. 

1907
01:33:10,840 --> 01:33:12,360
Leonie, Yeah. 
Leonie has a. 

1908
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:16,680
Drinker no Leonie has burden at 
45 so. 

1909
01:33:16,680 --> 01:33:18,040
What about like? 
What about like 1? 

1910
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:20,160
Spot behind us. 
Really, really, really nice 

1911
01:33:20,160 --> 01:33:23,520
Sauconies. 
He's running 50 mile races. 

1912
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,600
Jacob, I don't know if that's 
going to, you know, do the 

1913
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,080
trick, but. 
I don't know, just whatever, 

1914
01:33:28,080 --> 01:33:31,240
whatever it takes to get Leone 
to rank Burden in the 50s is, 

1915
01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:32,960
that's all I'm saying. 
We can work on it. 

1916
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:36,320
I love it. 
I like the G temps experience of

1917
01:33:36,320 --> 01:33:39,080
this podcast. 
He's I don't know where he is in

1918
01:33:39,160 --> 01:33:42,560
the pod I assume. 
I assume he's like further back 

1919
01:33:42,640 --> 01:33:43,920
and it's just catching up but I 
would. 

1920
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,760
My preference is that he is 
watching live. 

1921
01:33:50,120 --> 01:33:52,680
Stephon Diggs leads the Fallers,
so to speak. 

1922
01:33:52,680 --> 01:33:57,280
Woody Marks, Joe Mixon, Kim 
Scanaboo, RJ Harvey, JJ 

1923
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:01,040
McCarthy, Emmett Johnson, Denzel
Boston, Jadarian Price. 

1924
01:34:01,040 --> 01:34:03,360
The rookies on the Fallers list 
tonight. 

1925
01:34:03,480 --> 01:34:07,360
Diggs. 
Does he get any sort of a look 

1926
01:34:07,360 --> 01:34:08,960
at a productive season 
somewhere? 

1927
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:10,360
Yeah, who's going to sign it? 
Keep. 

1928
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:13,560
Falling until he's signed, but 
like, will a team sign him until

1929
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,320
his legal situation is 
clarified? 

1930
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:24,240
Where do we want them? 
Anywhere that has targets 

1931
01:34:24,240 --> 01:34:27,320
available for a slot receiver. 
I mean, the tough thing about 

1932
01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:29,840
digs getting cut is where you 
want them is the Patriots. 

1933
01:34:30,160 --> 01:34:32,800
Like that's the best place for. 
Them. 

1934
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:35,600
Vikings. 
Radio, not there, is a pretty 

1935
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,920
big pretty big downgrade. 
Back to Minnesota, Pep 

1936
01:34:38,920 --> 01:34:41,120
Guardiola. 
What would be the best realistic

1937
01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:44,000
spot you know the Bills could 
use the wide receiver one? 

1938
01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:47,920
Commanders. 
What about what about the Eagles

1939
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:48,600
trade? 
A.J. 

1940
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,760
Brown dig signs with them. 
I can actually. 

1941
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:53,680
See that half bad? 
Yeah, that's bad. 

1942
01:34:53,680 --> 01:34:57,440
I don't know what did Datsun's, 
what was his target share? 

1943
01:34:57,440 --> 01:35:00,600
I had 2%. 
No, no, no if they trade A.J. 

1944
01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:04,560
Brown, he said. 
I, I I know he said that, Jacob.

1945
01:35:06,600 --> 01:35:12,120
Get out of here. 
Last call boys, I missed last 

1946
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:16,440
week and I was given tip out. 
Effton, Chisholm. 

1947
01:35:16,440 --> 01:35:18,360
The Third. 
No, you, you picked. 

1948
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:19,840
You picked twice this week. 
That's. 

1949
01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:20,760
Just really. 
Yeah, you can. 

1950
01:35:20,760 --> 01:35:22,120
You can. 
You can replace him. 

1951
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:22,920
Yeah. 
All right. 

1952
01:35:22,920 --> 01:35:24,960
I'll take two a first and then 
you guys go and I'll go last. 

1953
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:29,040
Man, we'll get that quarterback 
room Patrick has to a. 2 is 

1954
01:35:29,040 --> 01:35:31,120
taken buddy. 
Jeez, get back in line. 

1955
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:33,800
We're set. 
Is he under 200? 

1956
01:35:34,560 --> 01:35:36,360
I don't think he is. 
Thank you really. 

1957
01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:40,880
Just. 
Jacobi Brissette is. 187 Yeah, 

1958
01:35:42,160 --> 01:35:44,480
Gino. 
Gino's already taken. 

1959
01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:48,960
Man, this is embarrassing. 
I had, I had a strategy, I had a

1960
01:35:48,960 --> 01:35:51,960
strategy here and my strategy is
is being executed. 

1961
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:57,160
Hey, I I understood what your 
strategy was and I didn't 

1962
01:35:57,160 --> 01:35:59,840
execute it as well as you did, 
but I but I got home for. 

1963
01:36:03,320 --> 01:36:05,720
It I'll, I'll, I'll. 
Regroup. 

1964
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:10,360
Give me demand, Claiborne. 
That's a good pick. 

1965
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:12,280
That is a good. 
Wake Forest running back. 

1966
01:36:12,560 --> 01:36:15,480
Yeah, that is a good pick. 
He's not taken. 

1967
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:19,440
Is he all right? 
Maybe I'll just wait and get 

1968
01:36:19,440 --> 01:36:23,720
Pennex in two weeks. 
I'll, I'll do mine. 

1969
01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:28,840
I mean, this is not fun, but I'm
going to take Kate Otten at at 

1970
01:36:28,840 --> 01:36:31,000
tight end Kate Otten. 
You're right, that isn't fun. 

1971
01:36:32,240 --> 01:36:35,440
I'll keep doing what I'm doing, 
which is not really as fun of a 

1972
01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:38,360
strategy as, or at least not as 
effective as a strategy as what 

1973
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:40,320
you're doing. 
But I'll just keep taking 

1974
01:36:40,520 --> 01:36:44,840
rookies. 
I will take Chris Brazil the 

1975
01:36:44,840 --> 01:36:47,240
second. 
That's who I was going to take. 

1976
01:36:48,160 --> 01:36:50,960
I'm glad I said it first. 
Welcome to my world. 

1977
01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:56,360
All right. 
Well then, who shall I take? 

1978
01:36:57,440 --> 01:36:59,320
When did you guys do this with 
these quarterbacks? 

1979
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:01,960
I mean I missed one week when 
did this all? 

1980
01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:04,400
Happen I I. 
Really, I took quarterbacks. 

1981
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:06,560
I took quarterbacks the first 
three times. 

1982
01:37:07,120 --> 01:37:10,280
The cartels literally just told 
my quarterbacks it's. 

1983
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:12,560
Important to consider in fantasy
games. 

1984
01:37:13,920 --> 01:37:17,840
When's the stolen option? 
Pat Pat who just won this still.

1985
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,240
Available. 
With one quarterback is already 

1986
01:37:20,240 --> 01:37:22,280
on three. 
You're just mixing it up this 

1987
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:23,680
year to go in a different 
different. 

1988
01:37:23,720 --> 01:37:26,360
Direction I recognize that Mac 
Jones was a wasted. 

1989
01:37:26,360 --> 01:37:29,000
Time Watson is available. 
And I I. 

1990
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:32,640
Could do that. 
I really can't. 

1991
01:37:32,640 --> 01:37:34,000
I can't. 
I can't. 

1992
01:37:34,000 --> 01:37:35,800
We've had that conversation. 
I think he plays. 

1993
01:37:38,440 --> 01:37:44,760
I will take Jeremy Bernard. 
All right, Isn't it Jeremy 

1994
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:47,040
Bernard? 
It is Jeremy. 

1995
01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,360
Yeah, it's, isn't it Jeremy like
Jeremy? 

1996
01:37:50,360 --> 01:37:52,080
No, it's like Jeremy. 
I believe it's Jeremy. 

1997
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:54,720
Jeremy. 
Yeah, I thought it was Jeremy. 

1998
01:37:55,520 --> 01:38:00,200
Jeremy Bernard. 
Jets let's go. 

1999
01:38:00,200 --> 01:38:06,920
Mason Taylor ADP2O2 Hope 
everybody's enjoyed the Saber 

2000
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:09,400
updates. 
The juggernaut rolls on 5/2, 

2001
01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:13,040
Buffalo over San Jose mid third.
Jacob, I didn't want it. 

2002
01:38:14,440 --> 01:38:16,320
The 19 year old score for San 
Jose. 

2003
01:38:16,440 --> 01:38:18,160
He did. 
Yep, Celebrini. 

2004
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:20,840
He has the name Davis. 
It's not on Celebrini. 

2005
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:24,000
I've never said it out loud. 
I didn't know if it's Kelabrini 

2006
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,240
or Celebrini so I didn't want to
embarrass myself. 

2007
01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:29,280
It's way cooler being Celebrini 
because then his literal 

2008
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:31,600
nickname is Sully. 
You're doing great either way. 

2009
01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,440
I just want to shout out Davis 
who mentioned he he's a big 

2010
01:38:35,560 --> 01:38:39,320
gunner helm guy and you know 
he's this is not bullshit. 

2011
01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,520
He's got jester gunner helm on 
his team. 

2012
01:38:41,760 --> 01:38:42,920
Sure, Gunner. 
Helm. 

2013
01:38:44,240 --> 01:38:46,760
I have, I have Gunner Helm and 
Terence Ferguson ranked in the 

2014
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:49,360
one 70s because I'm not a 
fucking coward who's like, you 

2015
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,480
know what you got to do to 
direct, to win the big board. 

2016
01:38:51,480 --> 01:38:55,000
You got to take Isaiah Likely. 
Pat Fryer booth. 

2017
01:38:55,400 --> 01:38:57,080
No thanks. 
No thanks, Guy. 

2018
01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:59,640
Good. 
Are you concerned about Danny 

2019
01:38:59,640 --> 01:39:02,640
Belly showing up on your door? 
I'm I've never been less 

2020
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,840
concerned. 
There's a there's a battle, by 

2021
01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,520
the way. 
Are you sure that Are you sure 

2022
01:39:07,520 --> 01:39:10,320
that Gooner helm hasn't been 
Ballinger mogged? 

2023
01:39:11,760 --> 01:39:14,600
Has anyone ever been Bellinger 
mugged in the history of 

2024
01:39:14,600 --> 01:39:15,920
Daniels? 
I don't think so. 

2025
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:20,160
Yeah, on that note, Ras dot 
football got Bellinger mugged. 

2026
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:24,960
Yes, yes, yes. 
Math Bomb got frame mugged. 

2027
01:39:30,040 --> 01:39:32,040
All right, Jacob, what have you 
got for us coming up? 

2028
01:39:33,280 --> 01:39:35,520
Oh. 
Well, I'll have posts on free 

2029
01:39:35,520 --> 01:39:36,880
agency basically this whole 
week. 

2030
01:39:37,280 --> 01:39:41,120
I wrote my first one, which is 
more of a philosophical post on 

2031
01:39:41,120 --> 01:39:43,240
some of the big takeaways from 
free agency. 

2032
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:48,440
Tomorrow I will have, 
optimistically, I'll have both 

2033
01:39:48,440 --> 01:39:51,160
my running backs, free agency 
article and my wide receivers 

2034
01:39:51,520 --> 01:39:53,360
tomorrow. 
More realistically, I'll have 

2035
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:55,760
one of those tomorrow and one of
them up on Thursday. 

2036
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:57,920
I already have my best ball 
ranks updated. 

2037
01:39:57,920 --> 01:40:00,960
I'll have dynasty ranks updated 
for free agency this week as 

2038
01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:03,400
well. 
And then starting the week after

2039
01:40:03,400 --> 01:40:05,760
that will be the lead up to the 
NFL draft. 

2040
01:40:05,760 --> 01:40:08,000
So it'll be it'll be all the 
rookie profiles coming up. 

2041
01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:14,400
All right, let's do it. 
Davis just had a free agent wide

2042
01:40:14,400 --> 01:40:19,080
receiver video with Matt Harmon 
come out today, so if you've not

2043
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:22,560
seen that and you want the 
reception perception takes on 

2044
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:25,000
all the free agent wide receiver
signings, you can go check that 

2045
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:28,840
out. 
Did a big long 3 hour stream 

2046
01:40:28,840 --> 01:40:33,320
with all the other free agency 
stuff and then I will probably 

2047
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:37,240
go live at some point tomorrow. 
Crane, you want to you want to 

2048
01:40:37,240 --> 01:40:38,880
draft? 
You want to draft a three try 

2049
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:41,200
and draft A333 tomorrow. 
Yeah, I'll do that. 

2050
01:40:41,520 --> 01:40:44,720
OK, All right, I'll send you a 
message and we'll do that took 

2051
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,520
us it took it took about two 
hours to fill A333, but. 

2052
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:52,040
I came on, Davis texted me. 
He's like, hey, you want to come

2053
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:53,640
on for 333? 
I'm like, sure. 

2054
01:40:53,960 --> 01:40:57,760
I show up, we stream for like an
hour 10, we do a full another 

2055
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:59,760
draft. 
Throughout that whole time, the 

2056
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:03,280
333 didn't fill and then I was 
like, all right, I actually do 

2057
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:07,080
have to go so. 
Major major recession indicator 

2058
01:41:07,080 --> 01:41:11,320
that you cannot get a March 10th
$333 fantasy draft filled. 

2059
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,880
Maybe, maybe message me when 
it's starting to fill 'cause I, 

2060
01:41:14,880 --> 01:41:19,280
I'm gonna be doing my, I got a 
bunch of writing to do because I

2061
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:20,880
got all my rookie profiles 
coming out. 

2062
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:22,400
I'm I'm nearly done with the 
one. 

2063
01:41:22,400 --> 01:41:25,400
Of you pass, you might want to 
wait until there's 11 to go 

2064
01:41:25,400 --> 01:41:25,960
because you. 
Yeah. 

2065
01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:27,120
I will. 
I will. 

2066
01:41:27,480 --> 01:41:29,320
This is what I'll do. 
An hour without it filling. 

2067
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:32,600
I'm going to schedule this 
stream to start at 1:30 PM 

2068
01:41:32,600 --> 01:41:35,360
Central time. 
I will enter into the 333, then 

2069
01:41:35,360 --> 01:41:38,760
I will get in a $10 and then 
whenever the 333 fills I will 

2070
01:41:38,760 --> 01:41:41,600
message you, OK? 
Sounds good. 

2071
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,600
I'll be drafting baseball this 
weekend in Philadelphia, so come

2072
01:41:45,600 --> 01:41:48,120
say hi. 
Hi, I ran out of I ran out of 

2073
01:41:48,120 --> 01:41:51,040
gas on the dinger. 
I just I did not have the fire 

2074
01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:53,080
this year. 
I did like I did like 25 of 

2075
01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:54,240
them. 
This is a. 

2076
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:58,080
This is a 42 year old home 
league. 

2077
01:41:58,880 --> 01:42:02,600
Wow wow, kitchen. 
Were you in or or? 

2078
01:42:02,600 --> 01:42:04,440
Start like right after you 
retired or? 

2079
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:06,880
Yeah, that's right. 
I got into it during my college 

2080
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,200
years. 
Were you in the Rotisserie 

2081
01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:10,560
League? 
Were you in? 

2082
01:42:10,600 --> 01:42:12,400
Were you in the league? 
The The, the. 

2083
01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:14,200
The the, the the. 
Actual. 

2084
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:15,760
Roto League. 
Me. 

2085
01:42:16,280 --> 01:42:17,680
Yeah, so. 
But have you ever walked in a 

2086
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:19,680
room and gone, What? 
What is this? 

2087
01:42:19,680 --> 01:42:22,280
And they're like, oh, it's 
called rotisserie fantasy. 

2088
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:25,640
No, I'm not quite that old. 
I'm not quite that old. 

2089
01:42:25,640 --> 01:42:28,440
When it was invented, I was not 
there. 

2090
01:42:28,440 --> 01:42:30,280
I was not present at that 
restaurant. 

2091
01:42:30,280 --> 01:42:31,680
Was called the Rotisserie, 
right? 

2092
01:42:31,680 --> 01:42:33,560
Isn't that the story? 
That's where. 

2093
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:34,400
Is that what it was? 
The idea? 

2094
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:36,440
Well, you tell you tell me. 
Really. 

2095
01:42:36,480 --> 01:42:38,120
I mean I. 
Think that's the reason for the 

2096
01:42:38,120 --> 01:42:41,680
word you guys should know. 
I mean you're fully ingrained in

2097
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:42,880
the business here. 
You should know where the. 

2098
01:42:43,720 --> 01:42:46,200
Odds you were at the first fan 
of the baseball trap. 

2099
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:48,760
Yeah, you were all there. 
I remember you guys. 

2100
01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:53,440
You were snotched. 
No, before, before we go, do you

2101
01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:56,560
have I just need to take curling
corner for 20 seconds. 

2102
01:42:56,640 --> 01:42:59,080
Manitoba is a Briar champion. 
One Matt. 

2103
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:01,920
Matt Dunstone come. 
Out to Matt Dunstone. 

2104
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:04,120
Good omen. 
No more. 

2105
01:43:04,600 --> 01:43:08,040
I loved it. 
I was literally in tears when he

2106
01:43:08,040 --> 01:43:09,960
won. 
It's a good omen for the Bills 

2107
01:43:09,960 --> 01:43:11,720
and they also have a Buffalo on 
their jackets. 

2108
01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:13,680
We sure do. 
We sure do. 

2109
01:43:13,840 --> 01:43:16,960
So shout out Matt Dunstone. 
You're a Manitoban hero for life

2110
01:43:16,960 --> 01:43:18,240
buddy here. 
Here, here. 

2111
01:43:19,520 --> 01:43:21,480
Thanks everybody. 
Enjoy your week. 

2112
01:43:21,480 --> 01:43:25,640
We'll see you next Tuesday. 
So I I zoned out when you guys 

2113
01:43:25,640 --> 01:43:27,000
talk about hockey. 
So I'll have this ready. 

2114
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:27,960
Later that wasn't, that was.