Good morning from sunny Buffalo. I'm Mike Schope here with ADP
chasing going into Week 16. Still not done with Week 15 yet.
Two games tonight. 75 scoreless yards from Saquon Barkley, 67
scoreless yards from Derek Henry, 56 scoreless yards from
Joe Mixon. And there's no game script
complaint among them. All their teams won easily,
pretty easily, yet couldn't get there.
Is this just how it goes? Is there something else to say
about it? Maybe a lot of you, even us, are
happy about it. We'll discuss it with our heroes
Pat, Karine and Davis Maddock. I'm Mike Shope.
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Man. So I'm all excited getting into
week 15. Couple dozen What?
What I miss? Go ahead.
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There, it's just still just you. You'll be back.
So I had a couple dozen underdog
teams and Wednesday or so of last week, I started to, you
know, look them over. I like my little spreadsheets.
So I'm writing them in. And I went out, I reached out to
Nick Constantino from Go Bills. Like Nick, what's what's the
right way to do this? Like, are you actually going
through all your teams? Are you, are you too cool for
it? I mean, just sort of what, what
is the process this week? There's nothing you can actually
do, of course. And he said, I wait until week
16, then it gets real. How does that sound?
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, although I, I enjoyed, I
remember the week 15 sweat last year, Laporta went nuts, which
was huge for me. And I would like, I still look,
we're going around shopping and, you know, at the grocery store
and I was like checking, you know, because I was missing some
of the, the late window games, I think.
And I was like, oh man, this, you know, we're getting, we're
getting touchdowns. Things are good.
So the, the sweat, like, I don't know, the week 15 sweat sticks
with you a little bit. And then last yesterday I was, I
pretty quickly shifted from sweating DFS teams, which
weren't that great to to basketball teams, but not
because like normally if you're taking your basketball teams,
it's like a bad day in DFS. But I was just like, I'm just as
kind of driven by, you know, what happens with the these best
ball sweats as I am with with the DFS stuff.
So yeah, Week 16, it gets very real.
I mean, that's where you're, you're going to be like pacing
around in front of the Monday Night Football game.
But but yeah, I I think Week 15 is a good sweat.
Nah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not I, I, I checked just to see if I
had any team that smashed, but I didn't like look and be like,
oh, I need 22.7 from this guy. It's like I assumed yesterday
went about as good for me as it possibly could have because
Barclay and Henry combined for Barclay and Henry combined for
seven points less than Saquon Barkley.
Season average in half PPR tie jump.
You combined for a savior worthy I think.
Oh, Xavier Worthy outscored them.
Xavier Worthy had 19.6. Yeah, there you go.
In half PPRI. Believe so.
Xavier Worthy outscored them. Chase Brown and Justice Hill
were the running back 1/2. No, James Conner was a running
back one. Justice Hill was running back 2.
Chase Brown running back 3. So I assume all that was good
for me, and if I get a team through that'll be great, but I
probably don't have very many good teams in BBM, so I'm
assuming that if I do get a final anywhere, it'll be in a
side contest, which is fine. Which is fine.
By the way, either of you guys ever draft Ty Johnson this year?
Yeah. I didn't, I didn't, but man, he
looks good. Yeah, I have some on DraftKings,
which is 20 rounds. Right, 320 plus yard catches
yesterday. The bills you'd think would kill
for a receiver to do that. I mean, how do they score 48
points and no targets for Amari Cooper?
Just incredible. Well, I was pretty married to
that game. I host the post game show.
Of course. I say of course, because you, I
think you guys know that at least what happened with, I
mean, let's go in order, Barkley, Henry Nixon.
Barkley was a late game, so I didn't see any of it.
Is there an easy explanation? Is it just randomness how it
goes or is something else in play there?
That happened yesterday. I think it's it's three
different things. The to me, the Henry one was
that the Ravens sort of just like we can score through the
air and let's let's like be a little bit more aggressive than
we normally are. And then they were very good.
And then like, Bateman catches, catches a ball, you know, just
ahead of the end zone and he makes 2 defenders miss and he
gets in. That's a Derrick Henry touchdown
that that he stole. You know, they have.
He connects deep to Bateman on another touchdown.
He connects deep to Walker on another touchdown.
He he hit Andrews on a long play that I think that a penalty had
backed them up. So it's like, yeah.
And then he he threw for 1/5. Oh, to Justice Hill.
He hit Justice Hill on that. Yeah.
So they're scoring from distance and that I think was like a risk
factor for the Henry matchup where I was like, I mean,
they're not going to do this, but they could have a good day
through the air if they decided to.
And they that they kind of decided to slash.
The Giants decided to let them and.
On on that game, Pat, it was the kind of game, I mean, what did
Jackson have? 4 incompletions and five
touchdowns or five incompletions and five touchdowns?
It's the kind of game where you're a 16 point favorite.
You know, you can probably do whatever you want.
You're using that game to win him an MVP, except he really has
no chance at it at this point. Right, right here.
With a lesser. Yeah, I think the mixing 1, the
Texans, just like they they were just kind of floundering it it
felt like a little bit. And then the Eagles looked
pretty good on offense, but I think they were trying to get
their passing game going a little bit slash the the
Steelers seem to be really sort of selling out for for Barkley.
And then Barkley missed some time.
He he he went to the medical tent and it felt like, you know,
they they were letting Gainwell get more run than usual.
They're using Gainwell around the goal line.
I just think they were like, let's not risk this dude in any
way if he's if he's. Or, or maybe it's simpler than
that and Barkley is just really susceptible to matchups.
Yeah, but I mean, he's everyone. Every running back's susceptible
to matchups if you take them off the field.
Well, he also, I mean look, his season high in receptions, he's
topped 5. He's topped 4 receptions 0
times. He has only topped four.
He's only topped 3 targets in less than half of the games.
Like this is the legendary upside thing for Barclay to have
these games. Like Barclay starts out at a
projection disadvantage to Chase Brown just because of the
receiving work. It's just, it's just how it
goes. And if you don't get enough
receptions because your team drops back 21 * a game, you have
to break off 50 yard runs. So it really is just as simple
as he didn't break off a 50 yard touchdown.
I mean, even think about that game against the Rams.
Even think about the game where he was like gonna he, where he
detonated all of us and everyone just gave up.
Think about. That.
He was a stinker. He he, he had like he had like
80 yards and, and no touchdowns until the last two possessions.
Like, which is not to say that that should be your median
expectation, but Barkley and Henry, just due to how they get
their fantasy points. They are particularly Barkley
because he's never getting the one yard touchdowns.
They are super sensitive to the big plays.
Well, that was one one question, Pat, about I just made the Lamar
Jackson point. Barkley was the second favorite
to win the MVP going into Sunday and Pittsburgh couldn't do
anything. We have 10 first downs in this
game. So it could have been the same
kind of deal where the Eagles just did whatever they wanted.
Maybe maybe not quite so easy when it comes to Barkley, but
they didn't. We've wondered, you're talking
about Allen all the time in Buffalo.
Will Philadelphia just go all in on getting him the rushing
record, even though, you know, there are the playoffs and
everything that that loom ahead? But yesterday's game might have
been some example that that is not the plan and.
It probably shouldn't be the plan.
Like, you know, it'd be nice if he gets there, but like, this
team could easily win the Super Bowl.
They're very good team. Defence is great, so you know
Berkeley is very important to their actual success.
You know so but they do get the commanders and Cowboys next.
So if if if we're saying oh, he's just a matchup guy.
He just he just beats some bad matchups.
Well, he's getting served up pretty nice matchups to close
the the best ball playoffs here. So I this to me was as someone
who didn't draft Barkley, you know, kind of sitting outside of
everyone watching, watching. I wish.
I would have advanced some more teams to take advantage of.
These right now, he's the guy you need and.
Now, no, that's so funny. He he went from you're not that
stoked to have him on your team to now if you get Barkley
through. This week, Barkley through.
Holy shit. Yeah.
I'm winning all the money. He he'd be, he'd be the number
one guy people have, I think, I think, I think if.
I think so. I think the number one guy that
you want to advance now is Barkley, because yes. 100%.
Now it is tough cuz you're gonna you're gonna go like against
good other good Barkley team. Like if he goes nuts in Week 17,
it'll be the like very good Barkley teams that got through
It'll it'll. Be like, like, like Josh Allen.
Right, it'll be Connor Chase Brown.
If you have a non Josh Allen Barkley team that would be that
would be pretty sweet. Not the Josh Allen's.
I mean Josh Allen's awesome and will score a lot of points in
week 17 obviously most likely. But that's where you go.
You know, that's the potential leverage if you had somehow got
Barkley through without Allen yesterday.
Well, well, of course there's the MVP element there, too,
although it's already almost his.
But now with three weeks to go, the a, the, the a, Yeah, right.
He he probably has it. They're a 14 point favorite at
home against New England. And then it's The Jets here.
And you have to really think about like team incentives.
Davis, you're Chiefs. So Mahomes gets hurt, which
we'll talk about. They open as an underdog at home
against Houston. I don't know.
So Houston clinched its division yesterday and now they're going
on a short week to Kansas City. They they might play them again
in a month. Do they want to show their best
stuff? I feel like this is a game.
Houston has really nothing to gain anymore.
They. Might score, they might score
some points. Now, if you if you get Chief's
weapons through to this week, you might be like, wow, they're
going to score some points in. Cards Mahomes won't play, I
guess there's that too. If you get, if you got, if you
get, if you get like Kelsey and Worthy through to week 16, you
might be you might be in a good spot right now.
You think he plays no matter what though.
No, no, I think, I think the team should not let him play
because they have bigger aspirations.
I I think him playing, I mean, I'm sure he wants to play.
He was trying to get back in the game yesterday, which is
idiotic. I mean, but it, it did not look
good. I thought, I thought for a
second it was really bad. But yeah, it's it's the same
injury he had. When they.
Won the Super Bowl in in 2022. But it's like here, here was
Kansas City's schedule, Houston at Pittsburgh at Denver, OK,
this is going to be high stakes stuff, race for the one seed,
whatever. All these games could end up
being meaningless for the other teams.
Houston's, I think it pretty much is already that if
Pittsburgh wins in Baltimore, they're an underdog.
But if they do, they clinch that division this week.
And what's the difference, 2 versus 3?
Then it's at Denver in Week 18 for the Chiefs, and they're kind
of already in, too. There's really almost no drama
on the AFC side, which you know, kind of ties in as we were
reflecting on the best ball stuff, but also leading into the
the playoff best ball. And a team like the Broncos is
not not not that there's not much to to find interesting, but
they're kind of in already. And I think we with the Colts
losing and the Dolphins losing, we pretty much know the field.
Yeah, I don't. I think the Broncos game matters
regardless because if the Bengals went out, the Bengals I
think. They played Denver.
Yeah, I believe that is the math.
So if the if the well, OK, so if the Bengals win, the weeks
haven't seen, then the Broncos have to win.
I mean, don't get me wrong, like I hope these games are useless
because the the best thing that could happen for Kansas City
would be if Kelsey got to take two weeks off.
Not not even just one week, just two weeks.
If he if he got to maybe he starts week 17, but then then
takes it easy at half and then doesn't play at all in week 18.
That would be the best thing. He needs to go to Germany.
He needs like some he needs some some he needs the, the the PRP
in his knees. He needs some, I don't know good
drugs, good drugs. He.
Didn't do Germany on the world tour, that wasn't.
Is it on the tour? My question too.
He's got to be eventually. Oh man, David.
Montgomery. David Montgomery out
indefinitely after suffering an MCL injury and a loss to the
Bills. You know who you're going to
need. Invest Ball Mania 5.
Oh my God. A little a little guy by the
name of Sion Baki. It's happening.
Montgomery. Montgomery did go out yesterday,
I don't remember him being ruled out, but it was 5 carries, 4
yards, 4 catches. Was he in the game at the end?
I'm checking the snap counts. No, no, 30% it was.
All Gibbs. No.
Well, I mean Gibbs, is Gibbs the one O 1 in your drafts now or
Allen? I think Allen.
So I did some playoff baseball drafts this morning.
I, I grain, I don't know if you have time this afternoon or
tomorrow to hop on. I think there's a convincing
argument now to take your favorite quarterback at 2 as
well, because I did a couple drafts where I took Barkley at
2:00 and I was not able to get Hertz or Mahomes or Lamar at the
second. Last, think of the second round.
No, not, not it. It was, well, yeah, not even
Mahomes. So it was either Goff.
So you have to reconfigure what you're doing and you have two
NMC teams or you don't get a quarterback at all.
If the if the same Brown drafter or the Gibbs drafter takes him.
And now that Montgomery never goes, so now that Montgomery
will never go ahead because he's injured, then now I think now I
think you're extra incentivized. And, and Josh is pointing us out
in the chat, Part of it is reacting with the draft right,
the one hole does. Because if the draft right, the
one hole takes Barkley, then it makes it more likely you'll have
a quarterback coming around. But when Allen goes one, then
you are extra incentivized. Right.
To, to, to to take a quarterback.
What are your thoughts on the Eagles and the Lions as like
teams like which of these teams is more likely to to go to the
Super Bowl because. Detroit is falling apart.
I mean their their defense, they were down their their entire
first and second string defensive lines the last two
weeks. They lost McNeil for the season
to ACL yesterday, who they just paid $97 million contract to.
They lost Carlton Davis to a broken jaw for the probably the
rest of the regular season. Montgomery, MCL, Davis sounds
like regular season and then he's back to me.
I mean the buy would help that too, but I would think.
Not if they do the Mr. not if they do the MRI.
And he tore it. Out and definitely sounds bad to
me that doesn't. That's like week to week is what
I would want to hear for playoff basketball.
I think it's the same thing. To me it's the same thing.
Like out for the season is easy. If they know he's torn and like
that's it, there's no reason to play games.
I mean, they could I suppose, but to me that's we don't know.
So my dad used to when I was he would tell me that I was not
having candy indefinitely. Indefinitely was a, you know,
that was that really set me off as well as a little 4 year old
really couldn't handle the the uncertainty in that word.
But I think indefinitely is a stand in Word for I'll figure it
out later. How how long I think it's given
that it's Monday. Indefinitely to me means you
were you're doing more testing. You don't know what the timeline
is yet, but it's not. That's I'm reading the tweet now
and that's what it says could be lost for the season is a little
bit more higher than it sounded at first to me.
So. Well now would you rather have
Gibbs or Barkley? Would you rather have advanced
that's? Where I'm driving, yeah.
I I think Gibbs now for sure, because the defense is the
defense is cheeks now. So every game they're like,
dude, we got to score 40. But you want the guy to go to
the Super Bowl, right? So.
No, no, I'm saying in in best ball.
I'm saying that's if you if you could advance a guy in BBM now I
think I. Think you want Gibbs just for
he's going to wait. Yeah.
Gibbs didn't have the advance rate that Barclay did, so he was
leveraged to begin with. At Chicago.
At San Francisco. Oh dude, Gibbs is getting 37
points at San Francisco, Maybe more.
Maybe. More.
How about that game? I mean, St.
Brown in that game, really the the Bills do it again without
really much receiving prowess. I mentioned Ty Johnson.
What else even happened in in their passing game yesterday?
Just it's all Allen and then Cook gets in twice.
Jameson Williams got carted off at one point and then returned
and scored a touchdown. I I thought when I read the
tweet that he got carted off I was like Oh well it's done.
And then he was back in the game.
You, you guys will enjoy this. Me being a Homer cost me $5000
in BR yesterday. I drafted a Goff, Evans, St.
Brown, Connor Chase Brown team nuts could have had Laporta at
tight end, had Travis Kelsey on it.
Four 4.7 points. Lovely.
Do you think this is by design for the Bills, Mike, where they,
you know, they they quote UN quote don't have a wide receiver
one or do you think that they would prefer to have a wide
receiver one? But the Cooper trade just hasn't
worked out. No, I wouldn't say that the
trade hasn't worked out because, you know, at the Rams he had 14
targets and they scored 44 points in that game.
So it's Alan, I think is right now on such a level that they're
just sort of doing whatever they want to do.
And yesterday he threw, I read from Bill Barnwell this morning,
he threw more. He completed more passes to
running backs and tight ends. Than any quarterback has in the
league this year and then he that he ever had.
So it is Ty Johnson or Cook or Kincaid who could have had a day
in a touchdown called back late. That was really dubious.
But that happens. Knox to, you know, beep Davis
like that's kind of where it's at for them.
And they're getting what they need from Shakur.
And here it's Cooper there, it's Mack Hollins.
I don't know, like, if they're not turning the ball over ever,
even in their loss of the Rams, they didn't.
And they're playing so clean that it's kind of just coming
easy. So I don't think they're
pivoting at all, really. This was sort of the whole idea,
this whole thesis of trading Stefan Diggs is that we'll just
Alan will be up here and we'll have enough.
We'll scheme it and make it work.
And I mean, they are the Super Bowl favorite.
So there's something to be said for it.
Is there something to be said for, I mean, Shirley, Dalton
Kincaid had to have smashed yesterday.
They scored 42 points. Right, Shirley. 48.
Shirley, Shirley Dalton Kincaid I I saw a good he's.
Not 100%. He did have a touchdown called
back. I saw, I, well, I was gonna say
I saw a good someone posted this in Discord that they turned on a
Liam stream this morning and they said that the Kincaid
touchdown was called back by the refs.
So that the game kept entertaining that they couldn't
the, the Rams couldn't, the, the bills couldn't go up by that
much and that it was a clean play.
And that was that was the league stepping in to keep the to keep
the game close. It was a clean play but it was
already pretty late so I wouldn't worry about it. 3
minutes left. I I think if the league wanted
anything is to get the game over with to get you to their NBC
product. In the last two weeks, Bills
games have bled like 3 hours and 10 minutes or something.
You you don't get to watch Jason Garrett.
So I feel if, if any, if the league, I don't think it did, if
the league had anything to say about that, like let's just wrap
this up. Yeah, I don't know.
I think the, the tricky thing with the Bills for, for DFS
stuff and and playoff bestball stuff is like it'll be
interesting for the playoff best ball.
Like, OK, you take Cook with him.
Cook is, is pretty, is is like locked in to, I don't know, he's
going to score multiple touchdowns in the playoffs.
It's like you're taking Shakur. You're, I mean, Shakur is like a
bad fit for half PPR. I know he scored the cool
touchdown against the Rams. You take, I mean, Cooper's like
a fourth round pick and is like literally just as liable to go 0
points as Matt Collins. Like you're you.
I mean, you can, if you wanted, you can take a Bills player in
every round. You, you could draft a team with
10 Bills players and they could win the Super Bowl and you still
might not win. Like, you still might not win
the gauntlet. If if if the like even assuming
Josh Allen smashes every game in the playoffs because he doesn't
bring the weapons along with them.
To me, this is an argument in some ways for taking hurts once
Allen is gone right. So you go to like this would be
the argument for Hertz. One O 2 is that you get Hertz,
you're not going to get Barkley, but you might get A.J.
Brown, you might get Davonte Smith and then you just take a
bunch of bill and and there's so many bills that you and the Josh
Allen guy are both going to get plenty of the bills.
I. Was going to say you're you're
both going to get you're both going to get 5 bills if you
want. Yeah, so and then, you know, the
Eagles have a pretty thin, you won't get the top Bills.
The the Bills guy will get James Cook probably, although Cook
works pretty well on an Eagles build.
But you know, let's say you don't get cooked.
Let's say you don't get shakier, but like you get A.J.
Brown and Devante Smith, like great, Now you're both just
tacking on ancillary bills. He's moving over to get, you
know, some NFC stuff while you take Dalton Kincaid or whatever,
Kian Coleman. So I, I think the, the Bills
Eagle stuff is, you know, it, it'll be, you have Super Bowl, a
lot of teams will get there, torn, torn MCL.
Torn. MCL rap sheet torn torn MCL so
so he's done, done. He he will, he will not be back.
I I the larger question is like, so now Montgomery's out, the
entire defense is out. Do the Eagles just get the one
seed or the Vikings get the one? I mean, the Vikings, well, if
the Vikings win out and they play Week 7 or when they play
Week 18. So basically if the Vikings went
out, they control their own destiny.
Are the Vikings who careened you and I have been drafting as our
our backdoor safety team. Are they?
I'm going to have teams with with five Vikings and five
Chiefs that have zero players in Week 1.
It could happen. Minnesota is what?
Seattle. Green Bay, Detroit.
Not easy, but could happen well. Seattle, now Seattle with Gino.
Gino, they said his knee is structurally intact, but anytime
we have to start drawing the distinction of structurally
intact for a what, 34 year old quarterback, 33 year old
quarterback, I don't know if that makes me.
Great. I not not Jermaine, but I wanted
Sam Howell to look better. Like wasn't the thing.
We all wanted him to look better than.
That I can't believe it, just he's going to throw the ball
though, right? And he just didn't.
I don't dude. He is.
And this is just like one of those things that's so obvious,
like in the stats, like it's just like if you look at the
first read stuff like he, he cannot get off his first read.
And then all the tape dudes are like this guy cannot get off his
first read. Like it's just like screaming,
but you watch him and he just there's that beat.
We're like you watch every other quarterback like get off the you
watch them move their head like it's the timing, the rhythm of
it from watching football. And he just like he like takes
that beat and then just sits back down.
Like maybe it'll come up and he's like, no, dude.
And then he gets sacked like half a second later.
It's he's a tough watch, man. Well, it's the it's the Rams
now. I mean, they're both 8 and 6.
San Francisco went for the check.
Arizona, I don't know it just you can't trust that.
Rams at The Jets and then the Cardinals, they're pretty close.
And is that a team you guys have been drafting at all?
I haven't been drafting the Cardinals.
I take the Buccaneers. I take the Buccaneers.
I take. I was taking the Seahawks for
for a minute, but yeah, that's over.
But the Rams, I mean, you got guys if you want them like.
I I feel better about the Buccaneers winning multiple
playoff games honestly. The other thing about the Bucks
is the defense is bad, so if they win, it'll be in a high
scoring game and then you're gonna get a high scoring loss
probably, yeah, but that's that would be real good.
They out gained the Chargers yesterday by 300 yards, 30
unanswered points. They were down 1710 and won 40
to 17. How about McMillan for this this
premise? Oh my God, dude, ship chasing
Kurt. I show I drafted Jaylen McMillan
in the big board. I took 80% of him.
I just took him every time. I'm gonna, I'm gonna advance
like 30 big board teams to the semi.
Yeah. Well, because Chase Brown was
the running back. Like Chase Brown, Jaylen
McMillan, it's kind of all you needed in that contest.
No, the, the, the Buccaneers are real.
I don't know anything about their offensive line.
Maybe their offensive line's really bad, but Ben Baldwin made
this point the other day that I think I've, I've never heard it
articulated so well, but basically, like really stout
defensive teams generally. Like, it's nice when they go on
a run, but good offense, like a really good offense is just
always going to be good defense. I, I can't really think of many
times in my life where that has not been true in in recent
memory. So if your defense sucks,
whatever. Like if your if your defense
sucks, that's fine. Just plan on scoring 35 points.
Who are the defense that you're afraid of in the NFC?
Not the Lions, I guess. The Vikings.
Buck, buck the. Eagles The Eagles have a really
good team. The exciting whites, yeah, I
don't know. I'd like to see, I'd like to see
Mike Evans against Darius Slay, you know?
Well, my my thinking on Minnesota is once you play them
or the more experience you have, I don't think you're too worried
defensively that the scheme seem to throw the younger
quarterbacks, the less good quarterbacks off and it's a
disaster. But I don't know like.
They're doing, they're doing scheme stuff that might yeah.
And that's the the Flores reputation is kind of like he
they're better in the beginning of the year.
And although they've been, they've maintained pretty good
defense all year, so. Well, they, you know, they're
they're opponents too. You can look at their schedule
and sort of make excuses for that.
I like the Bears tonight, plus the seven because there was a
close game the first time and I don't know, Plus I need
whatever. Because you need Caleb.
Doomsday is really it Lot on the line tonight.
I like the Vikings 'cause if Justin Jefferson goes nuts, I'll
get a BBM team. Through I I like.
I like. I like the Vikings 'cause they
just that what they've done all year is they've dispatched these
teams without identity. Like if you, if you look at the,
the, the games for the Vikings have just crushed teams.
It's been these kind of like middling teams who don't really
know what they are like just absolutely murdered the Colts,
killed the Titans. I I guess it was an overtime win
between these two teams back in November.
But I, I mean, I look, I hope you're right because I would
assume that a huge DJ Moore game is good for me.
Again, I'm not looking because it's also too many teams to go
through. It's just like it's like when
you not saying I advanced a lot of teams relative to the field
because I didn't. But if you draft 1200 teams,
it's just going to be a lot of manual calculation.
And I'm not trying to do that. I, I mean, I don't get me wrong,
I hope DJ Moore goes, I hope DJ Moore gets 37 points tonight
and, and Justin Jefferson beats that.
That would be great. But you know, good point that
someone made is the Bears are now without their head coach and
their offensive coordinator, which means that everyone in the
job is everyone on the coaching staff is 2 rungs up from what
they were doing a month ago. Which means it's like just hard
to get prepared for a game you. Know well it's also tough
because so you get you bring in Thomas Brown and he he makes
some real improvements on the offense, right?
The offense immediately looks better.
I was kind of skeptical of Brown because he was Bryce Young's OC
last year. I'm like this.
That didn't go great. So take me through the logic on
that please. But I just so he but he did make
improvements. I you know, it was very clear
the offense was better and getting the ball out quicker and
doing some doing some good stuff, more screens, just like
logical stuff. But then I think they they go,
well, we have to see what we have here in Brown is Brown head
coach material? Let's make him interim head
coach. But I think makes some sense.
But like you're not going to make Thomas Brown head coach
like you're good. You have a you just took Caleb
Williams number one overall, like you're going to be trying
extremely hard to bring in the next bright offensive mind.
You know, the Ben Johnson, you know, whoever else.
Like you're going to be looking, you're going to be looking at
the college ranks like you're going to be trying to find
someone that you can attach to Caleb and have them be paired
for a decade or more. And that's probably not Thomas
Brown. I think in what they've really
probably done most likely is they just put like more on
Brown's plate than they needed to.
He was he wasn't even OC and now he's now he's going to be head
coach. Like that's a lot.
So I don't know. I kind of I I think it's like
one of those things that like makes sense.
But then as as it plays out, it's probably not going to go
super great. What about B Enemy Davis?
Well. Buddy, I hope that the Hunt
family and and Brett Veach have been like staking outside of
his. I wonder can they hire him
before the play offs? Can they bring him in?
Why not as a as a quality control?
Because this is it's such an under discussed thing with how
shitty Kansas City is now their their shittiness started when
the enemy left. I mean, you know, part of it is
the offensive line and the wide receivers and everything.
But do you know who they hired? Like, how often do people
consciously think that Matt Nagy is the offensive coordinator for
the Kansas City Chiefs? Like feels, feels like a big
deal, you know? Washington might have his
rights, but. Feeling like a bigger deal by
the day. Feeling like a bigger deal by
the day, yeah? You know, honestly.
Like watching Howl last night, we might owe the enemy an
apology like that. They were productive last year.
You know, they they were up and down, but they were, they were
scrappy. Yeah, I love the reporting on
the enemy leaving college because there's like he's been
relieved of his duties and then his agent was right there with.
We didn't want to stay anyway. We weren't planning on being
back. So it's cool.
Joe Brady? Yeah, he's a head coach in two
years. No, he's going to ride the
Allen. I don't.
Know I would be very, very nervous about hiring Joe Brady.
Yeah, he's already failed once. Under.
The only place I would fire Joe Brady, I think is is Cincinnati.
Because I'm just like, I know you because essentially I'm
maybe hiring Joe Burrow to be like my head coach through this
guy. Like, I know you have a
connection with, with Joe, like, but I, I mean, he's gotten, he's
been successful with, with Joe Burrow, Jamar Chase and Justin
Jefferson. Brilliant.
Congrats, you must be, you must be a genius.
And then and then he's been good with Josh Allen, although it's
pretty clear he's been holding Josh Allen back.
I don't know, I, I have to say, like, I was not excited about
him. Brady, Like I, I don't, I wasn't
here for everybody eats. I don't want everybody to eat or
everybody to snack or nibble. I want a guy I want to like, I
want what Diggs was for this team.
I want that. And look, look at what's
happening, though, like he just OK, the injuries, whatever.
The Rams couldn't do anything either.
And then they went what? San Francisco scored six points.
I know it rained, but it's pretty good.
I mean, throwing the ball to Ty Johnson like this and figuring
out what? That is good it.
Yeah, 1, not one target for Cooper.
Kincaid out for a month, not 100% Coleman out for a month.
I don't know. It can't all be just having Josh
Allen a lot of it. Is I think, I think a lot of it
is just having Josh Allen, but you're right, I mean, they
they've they've looked better and more creative and they're
doing cool stuff with the running backs and they don't
have great weapons. So I'm probably being taken on
Grady, but. And, and the argument isn't
whether, like, he deserves it. The argument is whether the
Chicago Bears would be attracted to a guy in his late 30s that's
just championed, you know, these great offenses, the thing
they've never had in a in a century.
Like it's only a matter of whether a team will, if you
don't believe in them, fall for it.
Which they could. I mean, I, I, I completely agree
with that. You're, I mean, then Brady would
be a decent enough hire, I guess.
I mean. He would sound good.
Yeah, he he was like the reason I'm a little biased against
Brace because like he just like came in and was like, we got to
run. We can't be having Josh Allen
throw the ball like. This, yeah, we got to run the
ball. We got to run the ball like, no,
no, damn him, throw the and now he's throwing the ball again and
it's like, oh, look at that, We're putting.
I'll tell you. I'll tell you why I'm anti
Brady. It's still the trick play
against the Ravens. The the trick play against the
Ravens to me is like that is such a a a a pox on being a
rational decision maker that I'm just like, dude, you don't know
ball like you have all the momentum.
You're just slicing down the field.
Josh Allen is is is going nuclear.
They're the the the Ravens just punted for the first time.
They're all quaking in their boots.
This is going to be another classic Lamar choke job.
And you call a freaking I don't even I don't even remember what
it was. It was it was Cook pitching it
over to Josh Allen and. Josh Allen, then he got this.
Allen got blown up. Yeah, I thought you were to say
the fake punt in the playoffs, not the Ravens example, but I
guess you got. Two now fake the fake punt,
right? Yeah, the fake punt I think OK,
I think the Make a Wish was. The tournament?
How about cook? Only Jalen Hurts has more
rushing touchdowns this season, with Allen happening the way he
has. And his rushing, of course.
Is it 5 rushing touchdowns in the last two games?
Double digits again come so easily, but there's Cook with
13. That was not supposed to happen.
I don't even think the Bills, like want it to happen.
They keep giving it to everyone but him.
It's crazy. Still 13 touchdowns.
Derrick Henry James Cook 13, Hurts 14.
Wow. I know and it's weird he like
he's like doesn't feel like that good of a pick.
He feels like a disaster, almost like.
Yeah, he, he just doesn't get the ball enough.
It's like every time you every time you turn the game over,
it's like, all right, Ty Johnson just scampered for 11 yards.
Oh, Ray Davis is in there. Well, if he goes for 1616
touchdowns, yeah, Johnson with the big catches, if Cook goes
for 16 touchdowns on a Super Bowl winner or even if they fall
short, where does he go next year?
Second round. To me, but probably people are
going to be so hungry for running back.
Well, maybe they won't actually, maybe these this playoff is
going to people are going to be over running backs again.
If if Barclay, if Barclay and Henry just like kind of do OK,
like maybe it'll be like and that we have to draft wide
receivers even harder, even harder.
The problem was the problem was we didn't draft enough wide
receivers. We need.
We need 11. We need the.
RV Bros are just, they're just taking their phones and just
bashing them right now. I mean, you know, the, the, the,
the people who were so smug all year about you guys didn't
realize the generational opportunity that was Barkley in
the third round. You know that yesterday was the
worst day of their year. It was the worst day of their
year watching Barkley. On Twitter, it's confirmed to
you. Cuts a.
Little close to home, actually. Ashton Ashton GT is is gonna
legitimately I think has a chance to be like the one O 3 if
he goes if he goes to the Cowboys DAC is healthy.
They sign a competent wide receiver 2 or draft a competent
wide receiver 2. Dude, aren't you worried about
Rico? Three straight 100 yard games.
I mean, the guys are pretty good.
I mean, the thing about Rico is he's a 27 year old UTFA.
You're not. You're not worried about Rico,
to be clear. I'm not.
I'm not worried about Rico. Zeke is still gonna be on the
team, obviously, so I'm. Not seek.
Oh, I'm backing Gene T. That would be that would be the
funniest scenario is Ezekiel Elliott scores 8 touchdowns in
the backfield with Ashton. Gene T with the Cowboys drafted
8th overall. Ezekiel Elliott just becomes
Mike Tolbert, both in physical appearance and role.
You have a a specific thought on Henry for this.
I mean, he's been over 82 yards twice since October.
Was that this was the this was the thinking, right?
I mean, it always is with these guys, but they'll wear out.
I mean, Henry was not that special for Tennessee in a lot
of areas last couple years and you're watching them.
I know Pat, you went into detail on that game.
Is he is he does he look slower? Does he?
Is he wearing out? I don't he wasn't even out
there. They they were.
I think they were making a point to hit him like as soon as
humanly possible. Because that's the thing with
Henry's, like once he gets going, you're, you're screwed.
But no, I mean his in terms like rush yards over expected, he's
at 439, which I believe is the second highest market of all
time behind only Saquon Barkley this year.
So I would not be doubting Henry into like if they're in a
situation where they can feed him or do feed him.
I I think we're all kind of quaking in our boots here is is
if we if you don't have them. So this.
Was the spot to get fed. This was the spot, but it's not
like look, Henry didn't get, you know, 25 carries and didn't
deliver. He.
Yeah. 14 right, they threw all over this team and very
successfully. They had screen passes to Hill
like they, you know, it, it wasn't built around Henry in a
surprising way like that is that's a red flag to some extent
that they that they don't need to build it around Henry.
But it's why it's why they didn't need to sign them
yesterday. Like they just didn't.
For all the credit they get for I, I maintain their role in what
Jackson is. I mean, they just didn't trust
Jackson and I maintain. They'd be a better team with
Tony Pollard, but I think that's an unpopular opinion.
No, I still do. I agree.
Whether it's Pollard or a dozen other guys, I agree.
So I don't know that well, I guess you get Justice Hill
involved in the receiving game. I was going to say Lamar doesn't
like tend to involve the backs that much.
So it doesn't matter. But who?
Who? No, I think.
I think you'll want. Then Tony Pollard.
Yeah, but you want that sledgehammer, You want that
ultimate sledgehammer that that Henry is.
Well, maybe. Rasheen Ali Rasheen Ali could
have been the Rasheen Ali's 220 lbs.
Where is Keaton? Where is Keaton?
Mitchell, come on, let's go. He's.
He's he's a scratch for, he's a scratch for Rasheen Ali.
Yeah, well, you know what? Henry's having the the most the
no one in the past, at least going back to 2018 when we had
these numbers, has had a better, more efficient rushing campaign
than Henry. It's only a guy also doing it
this year. I still think he's better than
Rasheen Ali. That's on you, Patrick.
That's on. You maybe he's better So what it
is he's. Better than Rasheen Ali?
You know this just quickly, this whole week to week, all year,
we're always talking about the veteran running backs and what's
been happening. McCaffrey still was part of that
too, though. Injured.
We didn't know it. We didn't know it was as bad as
it was, but injured going into the season.
Nick Chubb, of course, injured going into the season didn't
happen at all. Just like with McCaffrey broken
foot. Now, unfortunately he's out.
Jonathan Brooks injured going into the season.
Maybe we get there. Whatever happened there where he
goes back in and tears the same ACL.
I mean Mitchell, I, I drafted a lot of Mitchell thinking like
we'd get to the middle of the season and Henry's old and he's
good and they're good. So that should hit.
He's not even dressing is. That is that better or worse
than drafting round 18 Rasheen Ali?
That mean better, Definitely better, definitely not going.
Better of them was active yesterday.
Yeah, well, hopefully didn't need, hopefully didn't need
those seven points or two points or whatever it was.
But maybe maybe one of the takeaways this year is to pay
more respect to who are who's actually hurt.
You know, age is one thing, but Barkley, Henry, these guys
didn't go in with injuries. Jacobs, Nixon, etcetera.
The the injury optimists. Do they ever win?
We saw last year was. We saw massive hit and but we
were but but he was healthy though, so key key discrepancy
there. He was practicing.
Well. It wasn't, it wasn't.
Oh, he had a set back. It wasn't.
It was he, He, he, I believe. No.
Well. Crane, he wasn't.
On the pub he. Wasn't even on the pub.
Yeah. No, but they were.
They were pretty coy if I remember right about him during
camp. They drafted a banacanda like.
They signed out with Cook. That's when everyone freaked
out. Michael Carter signed Alvin
Cook. Yeah, he's not even a starter
now, all that crap. I got to say the Hawkinson,
Hawkinson's a win for the injury optimist.
Yeah, Hawkinson's a big win because he he was in multi
ligaments here as well. Yeah.
Wait, sorry, who? Who showed?
So far. You know, like that's the thing.
No, I think he I. Mean if he gets hurt again it's
not. He successfully made it back
from his multi ligament knee tear I think you have to say.
So did Chubb. So did Chubb.
Chubb did not look the same though, so I.
No, I thought. I agree.
Not, not a win. I my thing is, and this probably
was not with with Brooks, I didn't do this well.
I thought I was getting a discount on Brooks, but but I
think the big thing is what kind of discount are you getting for
the injury? And to me last year I was like
Bruce Hall. I think this dude should be like
a middle of first round pick if he's completely healthy and
we're getting in the fourth round.
So like I'm getting my discount with Brooks.
I was like, oh, this dude would be probably like a fifth or
sixth round pick if healthy and we're getting in like the 9th.
But you know, maybe that would maybe that part was
overconfident. And then also, you know, you're
still in parts of the drafter. You're getting like running back
pricing had fallen. So I think I misplayed the
Brooks one. I misplayed the Brooks one in
two different ways because I didn't take him off Cuba.
But it's to me, it's like, what kind of discount are you
getting? Hawkinson you got a decent
discount. Chubb, you didn't get a discount
at first. He was a horrendous pick.
When drafts open eventually fell, I started taking him
around the 150's. So I was like, at this point,
you know, maybe I get a little thing at the end, but
Mccaffrey's the one we never got a discount on.
And I think I that was that was a leak for me too.
If like not luckily in some of the high stakes stuff, our Co
managers didn't want to draft him and we got off from there.
But in my stuff, I, I just sat there at one-on-one and baseball
and took him and we didn't get any kind of like even a pick
discount for a, a guy who's hurt that that would have been a
little more prudent. Well, I think was my number on
Derrick Henry, 83 yards over some stretch of weeks.
This player has not gone. He's also gone over 83 yards
twice all season, and that is Tyree Kill.
Oh yeah, I mean, the Dolphins are just dust man to a his
interception yesterday is such evidence that the whole offense
is like Mike McDaniel point and click.
Like I, I saw this great clip where the film watcher
highlighted the area where the throw went and showed what Tua's
supposed to read and then showed the linebacker knowing what he
or the the safety knowing what he's going to read.
And just stepping into this, like basically tricking to it
into thinking the space is open and then stepping into it.
And, and I mean, if Tyreek is not scoring 80 yard touchdowns
and like, what are you going to? I mean, he did have 14 targets
last week. Good week last week.
But the, the dolphins like even, even a chain is not efficient,
you know, and, and now they're, I believe they're eliminated.
I believe that. I believe the dolphins are
eliminated now. Mcdaniel's got to got to keep
the job, though. I I don't think it's.
True. True.
Yeah, it probably doesn't matter for us, but I've been listening
to because, you know, my experience with Drake May, I'm
like, this guy is is so good. I'm very, very pleased with, you
know, how kind of like the process to get on this
quarterback, right? But then even more held back by
the situation than I was hoping. So I've started what I've
started listening to Bill Simmons again, just cuz like he,
I know. Yes.
I'm like who? Who in the world is as tilted by
Jerrod Mayo and Alex Van Pelt as me?
And so Simmons yesterday compared to a he said it's it's
like you're having if you hire like Simmons, rich LA guy, if
you hire a personal chef and they they make great pizza.
But by the 3rd or 4th day you're like, Hey, could you like make,
you know, just like kind of a normal, like you could you like
braise some some beef or something?
No, I made pizza good. That's.
What I do? Dude, no one, no one's better
than Simmons. He's he's the, he's the GOAT.
He's like, I'll just, I'll never, I'll never say a bad word
about about Bill. Simmons, Miami.
Miami is not dead. In fact, if they win their next
two games and the Chargers lose both of theirs, they'd be in a
spot going into Week 18. So they still have life, which I
guess is good. I don't know though, in terms of
Tyreek, like he'll be 31 in March, he's not big.
Isn't that the profile we sort of lean against?
Come back to Kit. He's going to fit in Kansas City
now. Slow, injured, coming off a
terrible season. Great Chief, great fit, Chiefs,
great fit. That that is right in red is
right in their. Wheeled out 60% round
participation. Believe it's all just overthrew
him. Oh, it's funny.
The dolphins extended them though.
Like they they doubled, they doubled their back.
You can. Get out of You can get out of
every NFL contract. Yeah, they just did it.
But yes, I mean, you're right, they just did it.
You have I mean, if you have Tua, like you have to have elite
weapons around him like that's he's the thing about Tua that's
crazy is like by the number he's the new Jimmy man, he's the new
he's the new Jimmy G His his success rate entering that game
was the highest in the league and an EPA per game is second to
Josh Allen heading into heading into this this Sunday.
So like, I mean, it, it is largely, it's working like it's
not pretty at all. It's all shallow stuff.
It's all like, I mean, part of it is that they're blending the
run game into the passing game because you're getting so much
of the a chance stuff. And like the short passing, it's
like, but I mean, as a, as a means of moving the ball
downfield, it it is a fairly effective thing they have going
on. It's just like ugly and boring
and slow. Miami.
We're still on Miami. Yeah.
Still in Miami? Yeah.
Dude watching watching a chain like Mike Tolbert his way to 20
points a week is like so painful.
It's. Painful man.
It's like a chain needs to lose 8 lbs in the offseason and they
need to get Jalen Wright up to speed in the monster role.
Because a chain. I'm ready to admit that the
haters were right about one thing, which is that casting a
chain in a 80% snapshare 21 touch role is not the best use
of his skill set. Like he can do it, but it's not
the best way to utilize his his God-given abilities.
How do you like 29 completions for Tua in this game yesterday
And and hill and waddle and up to two catches.
Waddle zero on two targets. It's all, it's all Janu, dude.
It's all Janu leak Washington just.
Speaking of Speaking of Big Board.
Malik Washington baby, I know. Yeah, I have him in one of
these. I need go ahead.
Sorry. That's it.
I should say one of these teams I'm, I think I'm getting through
has him on it. It's OK.
Classic. I think that the Dolphins, we
might have to worry about Gene T they're sitting on 11th right
now. That's very NFL.
It's very NFL. H chain, H chain.
G&T could be like, they should just run the the single wing
this year or the Wing T and then sign, get, bring, bring Snoop
Huntley back and you're running, you're running the Wing T.
If you're McDaniel, you have to show some kind of improvement
next year, like the offense has to feel better.
And so I think they'll be tempted by something that would
just we'd all hate it. I'm not.
I'm not rooting for it. But.
Yeah, that's. Probably the most annoying spot.
Yeah, we'll, I think they could do it.
Dallas has to trade up ahead of Miami to get G&T.
Yeah. Can we, can we talk about Chase
Brown? Yeah.
I mean, definitely. Chase Brown is he?
He's averaging more half point PPR points per game than Barclay
since Moss went on IR. Like are we?
Like I I, I said this the other day on Twitter and people were
mocking it. I mean he is going to be a
legendary 0 running back pick like.
Yeah, and he was Sean stable. See what they were running back
this offseason. So there you go.
I mean, I'm, I'm not, I'm not going to let Sean lay claim to
Chase Brown. No, no shot in my giving this.
One well you got you got to. I'm not saying he's Sean's guy,
not your guy. I'm just saying the 0 running
back guy was was on chase round so.
I mean, he, his role has actually, I don't know how this
is possible. His role has actually gotten
larger because they've stopped playing Drew Sample as the third
down back and they're just like Chase.
You just go do it. 28 touches. He he came off the field for
three snaps yesterday in a game in a game they won 37 to 21.
He came off the field for three snaps.
He has got 25. He's got 2025 rushes.
I mean, it's unbelievable, this guy.
Should we be rooting for the Bengals to make the playoffs so
that Zach Taylor doesn't get fired?
So that we get this again next year.
No, they're gonna, they'll do it again.
They'll do it again next. They'll, they'll like I look, I
love, I, I, I love, I love Chase Brown.
But this is not going to be their plan next year.
They're gonna, OK, they're gonna.
They'll they'll get their I don't know who's the Zach Moss
that comes in it 'cause. I was trying to think, yeah,
somebody like that, Stevenson, I don't know who was that?
That's not a good. No, he he just signed a contract
extension, but it'll it's someone like that some.
Madison. Madison some 227 LB Got sincere
McCormick Sure, yeah, it'll be some 227 LB guy who will come
in. Now, I think The funny thing
will be is Brown will get the good stuff.
It'll be the reverse where Brown before was getting the the bad
stuff and score like having to score on in between the 20s and
on rushes and Moss was getting all the good stuff.
It'll be the reverse. They'll sign a guy to be the
between the 20s guy and then give Brown the which which sadly
is going to mean Brown is going to be way overdrafted.
Brett, you know who you know Chase Brown is?
Damien Pierce, Someone in the chat just said it.
They they beat me to it. He's Damien Pierce.
Yeah, I don't think. I don't.
Think. I don't think he is.
I don't think of Sean Siegel for this counterpoint with you over
the summer, Davis, but I think of I think of Hayden and like
wasn't his argument. I'm not, you know, criticized
his. Argument.
Was was he only runs a straight line, Yeah.
Yeah. He had the one play.
Was he had one good play? Yeah.
And he ran a straight. Line which was true, which by
the way, yeah, right, Hayden. Yeah.
Hayden was right, he just didn't have the vision, which look, all
this all due respect to Zach Moss, like truly, as Karina and
I well know, the most replacement level guy in the
history of of a fantasy football.
Yeah. In an FFPC big one I've got in a
virtual tie Bowers against McCormick and London.
What are my odds? Well I hope they're good because
I have Bowers in a 555 me and Eric buying for are like
competing for one of the final one of the final 552 advance out
of the pods. It's possible me and Eric both
advance but probably just one of us.
I have Bowers. I need a big Bowers.
I have Bowers replacing like A5 from Noah fan and I forget who I
was bombed. London's gotta be double digit
targets right though? I mean, doesn't he in this game?
London, Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Gotta be I.
Think. McCormick I don't know, Davis
I'll be listening to your Patreon in this for the
Showdown. What are you gonna do with the
Raiders? I'm not doing 1 today because
the showdown price pools are really small.
OK, never mind they're. They're they're like, they're
like they're like 10K to 1st I think.
On Chase Brown, but like he could be Kyron though that, you
know, Damien Pierce was not a a total total snap dominator.
He he was a early down hammer guy.
He was more like an Eli Mitchell.
You know, from when Eli Mitchell got drafted pretty high the
following year? Than yeah.
Kyron Williams, but fast. Kyron Williams But I mean,
that's who he feels like to me. Like he's he.
He can do everything. He's he.
He's real low. Like he's low center of gravity.
Like he's running at these pack of knees.
He really might, he really might backdoor it because they're so
screwed money wise. They're so fucked.
They they owe, they're going to owe so much money to Jamar Chase
and T Higgins and Joe Burrow said.
I don't remember if it was at a press conference on a podcast or
something, but he was like, we got to keep T.
We really we really want to keep T It's like, what are you going
to do? You going to tell Joe Burrow?
Here's Jermaine Burton, this guy's out at the casino hanging
out instead of showing up to the walkthrough.
This is your wide receiver too. I don't know, man, that that
which could obviously really work out because you don't want
to waste draft picks. If you're paying for T Higgins
and Chase and Burrow and you had the worst defense in the NFL.
You, you spending a third round pick on a running back.
I don't know. Yeah.
And I mean, the one thing that I feel like this year is when I
look look at running backs. So all the running back pricing
dropped obviously. And then that's helped been
partly why it's been such a big year for running backs, but also
like the running back classes coming in have not been good
like this, this, this. 1 is awesome.
This one's awesome, but like art, how quickly is someone
going to get up to speed? You know, if it's a late around
pick, you know, on in terms of competing with Brown, I don't
know. I'm, I'm just like, what
veterans are really around that you'd be nervous about?
Like who, who are they bringing in like Gus Edwards or something
like. I mean, I I knew this list, I
knew this list last year and we're like who's paying DeAndre
Swift, who's paying Derrick Henry, who's paying Barclay and
who's paying Jacobs and all these guys and look what
happened this year. I don't know that list.
I don't know if it matters. Those guys got multi year deals
and they mostly have done really well.
Nixon was going to be cut, then 5 minutes later he was traded.
Because because the NFL hated last year's draft class.
That's what that's what all the agents said.
That's what that's what everyone said was, oh, this is a terrible
draft class. Let's get in a veteran who we've
at least seen at the NFL level. And by the way, they look pretty
right? Yeah.
But who who are the good rookie running backs?
No one. No one has done.
Anything. Tracy.
Tyrone. Tracy.
Tracy Yeah, a a a wide receiver with like 111 carries in
college. So much of it, Davis, you're the
one to say this. So much of it is circumstances
like, couldn't Ray Davis have had a great season for somebody?
Oh, Bucky. Just Bucky's been.
Great, Bucky. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah. How about him yesterday?
Since Super Cormick is not a rookie.
Since Super Cormick is like 27. He's the Rico Dowdell of this
year. He's the Rico Dow.
Like, oh, what a great rookie. Yeah.
Bucky Irving wasn't supposed to play.
Here's 110 yards. Here you go.
Enjoy. Not bad.
Yeah, yeah. Bucky Bucky's really good and to
be honest, I, I, I it's one of those things where I wish I
never knew Bucky Irving's workout stuff because I loved
Bucky in college. Like pre draft stuff.
I liked him and then he had what, a 2.4 Ras or?
Something horrendous. Ras.
Yeah. Horrendous and.
I was like, the thing with Ras is like you, you can't like
triple count, like the tails, like you're like, OK, so he's
not athletic. It doesn't like, oh, he's he's
way less athletic than this other an athletic guy.
Don't care. It doesn't matter.
Like at the same time, like when a guy's like 10, it's like, oh,
he's way more athletic than this other 9.8.
I don't care. They're both very athletic.
That to me is the point of of right.
It's like you're bucking extremely athletic.
Athletic fine, bad, Not athletic.
Like, that's, that's what we do. You know, the Tyron taught us
this, Bucky taught us this. We have to learn this lesson.
Coming up on Christmas next week, Week 16 though.
Important stuff. Pat man Davis, what are you guys
doing streaming wise this week? I see you guys everywhere.
A lot of playoff best ball. I mean shit, we got to figure
out what to do with without Demon in the pool.
Craig Reynolds. Lot of playoff best ball.
I think that Gibbs probably becomes the one O 2, Barkley the
one O 3. I'm the one O 4.
What if what if Gibbs? What if the lions?
I mean if the lions don't get the one O 1, is Gibbs is Gibbs?
Or if lions don't get the butt, is Gibbs the one O 1?
I don't think so because of the quarterback stuff that we talked
about. But running back now became
less. Although The thing is like at
running back, you can take Ty Johnson now.
I think like there's you can feel OK about like you could
take Kenny Gamewell with Ty Johnson and be like, I'll have a
run. And then you take, obviously you
take a Jacobs or someone who's going to play, you know, a few
games and, and make a run and Aaron Jones.
Don't, don't take Aaron Jones. Don't take Aaron Jones because.
They might get the ones. Vikings are going to get the
one. Yeah, can we, I mean that's.
The one has to be the eagles. It just, it has to be the
Eagles. It doesn't if the Vikings win
out, but. It's the Washington Dallas
Giants versus at sea. Yes, the Vikings control their
own destiny. I looked at it this morning.
But the the last game is. Like a huge argument on my
discord about. This the Detroit game is going
to be important. You know, they go to Detroit the
last week they're at Seattle 1st and then the Packers.
The Eagles must have much, much better odds to get the one with
their schedule and already at at best the same record like if
Minnesota wins tonight. So Philly looks great for the
one with Detroit's problems. But I think Jefferson is an
interesting, you know, idea in the playoff baseball world.
Vikings getting the one would really shake things up in these
playoff baseball content. Like really won't happen.
Yeah, the Vikings. The Vikings have all the
tiebreakers. It still won't They have to win
every game. They have to win, but.
So do the Eagles. And they're all tough.
But the Eagles games. Are only one more game than the
Eagles do. Crutches says Lions 61%, Eagles
24%, Vikings 15%. That sounds about right to me.
I don't, I don't know. I Detroit doesn't feel good at
Chicago, at San Fran in Minnesota.
Like they've got a lot of problems.
Guys are going down everywhere on that team.
They're good. But they went from like this is
everybody's Super Bowl darling to like, oh, are they going to
be the five? That didn't take long.
Yeah, I'm ready boys. And like they can we.
Yeah. Do we have to go?
No, you can go ahead. I'm still have fun.
We could I I great if you if you want to do this.
I'm about to go stream on my channel.
Oh geez, I'm the bad guy. I would stay.
Show's been show's been sweating bullets for three minutes.
Showp is like dude it's 3 minutes to 44 seconds over.
Oh my. God, listen, I'm just going to
be sad to to see you go. Pat Crane, legendary upside.
Davis Matic. Davis Matic.
Come on, I'll be on tomorrow night in the Deep end with Adam
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Happy holidays.