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Penultimate shit, shit cast. 
Oh geez, shit cast of the 2024 

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season. 
That's a hopefully not a 

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Freudian slip for our picks 
tonight. 

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We got Chargers Broncos underway
right now. 

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We got Mark Sessler. 
We got a rain check. 

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His Internet wasn't working last
time. 

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He's going to be here in the 
second quarter. 

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We got pickums ready to roll. 
We got a giveaway if we can hit 

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our core. 
We got Steph Miller swinging by 

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in the third quarter. 
We also have a surprise BBM 

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sweat to show you guys that we 
collectively drafted earlier 

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this offseason that is made it 
to the semi finals. 

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So I'm Pete with Ben and Pat. 
This is the ship cast. 

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Let's do it. 
It's the ship cast, the ship 

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cast the ship cast. 
We got some fun pick em sweats 

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dialed up. 
You mix in a couple lowers there

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to make sure people know you 
know ball. 

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All hires because we know ball. 
You're going to lose anyway 

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probably, so just do the 
Peppers. 

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Scorcher watch, everyone. 
Scorcher watch. 

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Oh no. 
The pick em's aren't hitting. 

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The other way you guys want to 
make some more pickups? 

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Back baby I'm emotionally 
invested there we. 

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Go. 
I just want to be clear, no one 

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is asking you. 
To watch the game, we're just 

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asking you to watch. 
All right. 

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Good evening. 
Good evening, Pat and Gretch. 

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How are we doing? 
I just had this first sip of 

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this morgue and made it a little
stiff tonight so I don't have 

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things to come. 
We had a Gus Edwards catch to 

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start here. 
I know we, we, we talked about 

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Gus, how to play Gus. 
I told you guys I was like Pat, 

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you were relaying some of the 
lines and I was like, I love the

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if we do the rush plus the 
receiving because you only have 

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two catches all year. 
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for two yards, and there's like 
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It's like he's not going to get 
5 receiving yards. 

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He's probably not going to catch
a pass. 

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He gets just like a three yard 
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away, yeah. 
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him off the field. 
Who is this? 

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Darius Davis with a little 
pitch. 

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Yeah. 
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because I've been telling you 
guys I. 

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Don't know, it must have been. 
Holding it was on the. 

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It might have been an illegal 
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Yeah, hold on, Toss. 
That's probably what it was. 

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I was telling you guys that the,
the the Chargers have basically 

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completely given up the run 
since Jacob Dobbins got hurt and

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doesn't necessarily show up in 
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everything. 
But if you look at like their 

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first half numbers, especially 
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every game been super, super 
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They basically don't trust 
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they come out running. 
I mean, they they run, they 

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throw a swing to the running 
back and they run again and then

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they punt. 
So we'll see what happens. 

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I feel like it's probably still 
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conceptually not be a running 
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He's like, let me try it. 
Yeah, I'd row it. 

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Let me, let me just try it. 
What if it? 

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Just works the start. 
Ask him. 

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He's starting, guys. 
This is great for. 

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Our pickums. 
Yeah. 

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There you go. 
So right here up on the screen, 

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I have the core. 
We didn't have the the balls to 

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put estimate in the core. 
We got Marvin Mims higher than 2

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1/2 receptions. 
Got a little plus money on that.

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Gus Edwards lower. 
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lower 39 1/2 scrimmage yards and
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receiving yards. 
But I can pull up in a second. 

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We have a couple or a slider 
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yards. 
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And I mean the, the the Chargers
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talking about. 
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week they tied the league low 
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rush attempts in the game with 
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Weeks ago they had a game with 
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In the last four weeks they had 
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I think it was. 
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those are like body bottom, like
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whatever bottom 20th percentile,
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games just in the last four here
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24 rush attempts and some of 
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attempts too. 
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running back attempts three 
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rush attempts for running backs,
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maybe they're adjusting off of 
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establish the run or something. 
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I'm very intrigued by that so 
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Mims in the back, though, that's
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So we get the early Mims thing. 
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mean, we, we've, we've done this
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You guys are way better at the 
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terms of, you know, looking like
looking through projections, 

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looking at matchups, looking 
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Obviously my stuff's a little 
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when I'm working on stealing 
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This is the first one for 
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an underdog, just had something 
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A role's been there for, for 
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this backfield role. 
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He's A2 plus catches for five 
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that span, about four per game. 
Pat, we were going through the 

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advanced numbers. 
You were digging up a lot of 

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stuff. 
A lot of that's right out of the

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backfield alignment or from wide
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Three of those five games he's 
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One of the other ones he had 
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The fifth one is that game where
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Everyone at ship chasing. 
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Mims and knows he had the long 
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But the other games other than 
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which is really high catch rate 
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And so he's getting the targets 
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catch rate. 
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carries in those five games. 
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for five weeks, which when 
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usage, it's not two weeks. 
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last four, last six games. 
Like this is a real role that 

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just seemed like it wasn't 
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We we, we get like a free look 
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It feels like he's been used a 
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He's been used on out of out of 
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He had four backfield targets 
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Whoa. 
Javonte Williams Oh wow, we we 

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get Javonte on Thursday night 
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It's. 
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I'll, I'll, I'll also get that 
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But just to let you guys know on
the we drafted a basketball 

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mania team on this channel on 
May 2nd, you know, shortly after

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the NFL draft. 
That is my only advancing 

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basketball Mania team and it has
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Javonte Williams, Lad Mcconkey 
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So we're going to get to sweat 
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Who's this 25 in the backfield? 
Watson? 

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Oh, Blake Watson's back with 
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Blake Watson Yeah. 
So I didn't know that that was. 

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And this is. 
Burton. 

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It's Atkins. 
Was that Atkins? 

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is the the ways that Mims would,
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out because they do a lot of the
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stuff. 
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for everything. 
I was just saying Watson's a 

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problem for our whole, not a 
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Cause part of us that Mims has 
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Acton. 
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Hey, this dude, because Ben, you
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was digging in. 
I was like, yeah, I see 

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everything you're talking about.
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Jaleel's out. 
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And then one of the things I 
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not think the chargers are going
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He's going to have time to throw
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and short stuff, right? 
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interesting thing about Mims 
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all screens. 
Some of it's been like wheel 

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routes and little swing routes 
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it's like it's not necessarily a
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the get it out quick pass rush 
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It's like you kind of he'll even
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take another read downfield, 
then go back to it, that kind of

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thing. 
So it all kind of fit with like 

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what I thought the game might be
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protecting being a quite a bit 
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they're facing. 
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in time to pressure. 
They they they have an OK 

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pressure rate, but it takes a 
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So kind of the Knicks has time 
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in some of these, particularly 
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to. 
Watson just look good there. 

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What how did he look in your 
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Because I remember Siegel was 
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I have like I had like best ball
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I'm sure those teams are dead, 
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and active. 
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He might be a problem here, man.
He might be the back that that 

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takes over. 
Yeah, he's brought this Broncos.

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This is like one of those NBA 
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rotation right now. 
Or just like every touch is some

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different dude. 
Right. 

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The Mims stuff is like, I was 
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role. 
It's not that huge of a role. 

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So prior to week 10, he only 
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snaps all year. 
Since then, he's played in the 

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backfield between 4:00 and 7:00 
snaps at all five games, five 

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games in a row and curious 2 in 
this game, they just have a 

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throw to, I'm sure people are 
like, dude, four to seven snaps.

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That's what you're having us bet
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But that's like 10% of the game,
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You're talking about 60 snaps in
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And it's still not a ton, but 
it's also a role with him and 

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with Jaleel, the way that the 
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back role is used, that it's a 
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When they're on the field, they 
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not out there to pass and stuff 
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And we're trying to get, it's a 
difference of like one 

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reception, right? 
It's like that's just scream to 

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Watson. 
That's the play that's supposed 

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to go to Mims. 
Oh, man, he has looked awesome 

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on this drive. 
But yeah, that was a headshot 

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and he looked a little wobbled. 
Watson did not rape particularly

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well in my stuff. 
It's kind of just a flyer type. 

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I mean, he was undrafted. 
Let me let me give him some 

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draft position. 
Let. 

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Me say he's like 150. 
Adjust this. 

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Yeah, that was a bad hit. 
It was hard helmet to helmet. 

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Yeah, and they called 
unnecessary roughness. 

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But he, I mean, look, he looks 
fun and I hope he's fine. 

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He legitimately wobbled. 
Wow. 

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I mean, I think he's going to 
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I think they're going to have to
call down here. 

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They're going to call down for 
sure. 

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Yeah. 
And then I think he's going to 

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have to go through concussion 
testing. 

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That might not go very well for 
him because he looked wobbled 

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when he came up. 
Yeah. 

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I mean, White Lancer, the chat. 
Oh, that's estimate. 

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Estimate Tuddy. 
He's on his way, White Lancer 

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chat said Pickups died because 
of Blake Watson was not on my 

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Big O card. 
Me either. 

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They are very much dead because 
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Blake Watson, but then he 
immediately gets a concussion is

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a really weird run out Watson, 
By the way, I I I threw in like 

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he was drafted around pick 1 to 
50. 

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Like what? 
What do we think about him now? 

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Supposed to being undrafted, 
which kind of kills him on 

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myself, but he's like same tier.
He's like a fourth round rookie 

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pick type, same tier as Gorendo,
Ray Davis, Will Shipley, Isaiah 

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Davis. 
So you gave him some draft 

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capital similar to those guys. 
He would have looked similar to 

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those guys. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, a little later, a little 
later than those guys. 

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Those guys were like in the one 
20s, one 30s. 

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OK, yeah, there's a little bit 
there. 

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There's a little bit there. 
It's a little, it's a little. 

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Yeah. 
He's kind of, let me see what's 

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driving it. 
We've got decent elusive rating,

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1.10 yards per hour on, but he 
ran a lot of routes. 

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Yes. 
He's back to the dominating 

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ring, backfield dominated rating
was OK, 92% in this final 

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season. 
That's pretty good. 

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Yeah, that was at Memphis. 
I knew he was at Memphis, but he

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played at Old Dominion prior, 
interestingly. 

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And then he he finished at 
Memphis at just one year, his 

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fifth year. 
So I don't know if you have age 

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in there, but that age probably 
is not going to do. 

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He's old because he's in there, 
but it's not like it's not a 

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huge fact he's 24, 24, because I
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didn't play in 20/20/20. 
So that was his fifth year, but 

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his first year was 2018. 
It was really six years out of 

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out of high school. 
In college. 

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He had an 8.91 Raps. 
That's that's impressive. 

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Good athleticism. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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I tend to boost, it's mostly 
boosting the guys who are really

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young. 
It's kind of like once you're, 

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once you're not young, it 
doesn't matter that much. 

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I don't think you know, right? 
That makes sense and. 

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The estimate TD is cool, the the
Javante would have been very 

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cool. 
For the that would have been 

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great for a sweat. 
Let me I'll pull up this team 

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though, so you guys can see it 
here. 

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Stop the count, Anchorman. 
No. 

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Then we wouldn't even advance. 
Don't stop the count. 

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Don't. 
Stop it. 

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We just had a terrible League 
16. 

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Baker So this was one of the 
only teams you know, I named my 

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teams, put the dates in there, 
mention the SC team. 

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This is one of the few teams 
that got an emoji in the 

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description. 
It's a vomit emoji next to 

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Watson, I thought. 
It was going to be a good emoji.

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No, no, no. 
So the teams Baker Mayfield, 

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Drake May and Deshaun Watson are
running backs Devon A Chan, 

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Jalen Warren, Javonte Williams, 
Chase Brown and Rico Dowdell, 

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Wide receivers Justin Jefferson,
Mike Evans, Tank Dell, Jane 

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Reed, Ladd Mcconkey, Joshua 
Palmer, Javon Baker, Jalen 

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McMillan and then tight ends 
Mark Andrews. 

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Kate Otten. 
The thing I was most bummed 

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about is it doesn't seems like 
Kate Otten's on the trending in 

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the wrong direction for this 
week, so we might only have one 

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bullet at tight end. 
Yeah, I went back and watched. 

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We didn't want Watson. 
This is why I think, you know, 

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obviously you put the the emoji 
for a number of reasons, but in 

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this particular draft, I, I went
back and watched like when we 

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were on the clock with in each 
one and we wanted Herbert, but 

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we got sniped on him before we 
took Palmer. 

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And then we were like deciding 
between I was like, we could 

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take Gus and you're like, I 
think Palmer. 

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Let's just stack it up without 
Herbert. 

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So he took Palmer and then it 
came. 

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Then we had we took Jefferson in
the first round. 

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So we wanted McCarthy. 
We're like, Ah, we could take 

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Watson, but they were we're all 
just sitting there in silence. 

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And then Ben was like, I mean, 
Watson is a pretty good pick. 

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And I was like, yes, he is. 
And I wasn't going to say. 

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That he said. 
No, Is that what we did? 

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We all said nice things about 
our daughters. 

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We took. 
No, that's not I think that was 

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I think it was after the next 
one. 

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We kept drafting it, but then we
got sniped on JJ McCarthy, which

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we were all tilted about. 
And then I was like, let's take 

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Drake, man. 
So we ended up taking by the 

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way, first set it up, but we 
got. 

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How? 
How? 

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Like purely process standpoint, 
this is semantics and no one 

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even wants to hear it, but how 
obviously of a good pick was the

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Deshaun Watson? 
I mean, you see Jameis Winston 

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go in there, they're throwing a 
ton. 

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He used to be mobile and he used
to be a really good passer. 

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If he could have just been 
anything other than the worst 

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quarterback basically ever, 
which is what he was in EPA from

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like through whatever week he 
got hurt week 10 or whatever, 

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someone was tracking this every 
week. 

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He went down as the worst EPA 
per play quarterback through 

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like week 10 since 2000. 
For a long time. 

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The the person tracking it, I 
can't remember who it was, one 

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of our buddies in the industry 
was tracking it as he's the 

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worst Browns QB since 2000, 
which is bad enough. 

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And he ended up being the worst 
NFLQB since 2000. 

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Double S is the worst NFL 
quarterback. 

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But like they threw right? 
They wanted the Ken Dorsey 

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wanted to throw. 
They wanted to do this stuff. 

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Once they got a quarterback in 
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And they they had enough talent 
that the passing game is like 

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super lucrative when Winston's 
in there. 

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As long as he didn't do what he 
did, Watson should have been a 

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really good pick. 
But anyway, it's good. 

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It's good. 
McCarthy was a good pick because

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I I think that's that's true as 
well. 

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Like as well as Arnold's played,
McCarthy would have had a 

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stretch like, I don't know, I 
mean, maybe maybe he doesn't get

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the week one job and then he 
can't get the job back. 

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I guess it's possible he never 
would have really got that much 

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run, but you know, obviously 
anyone in that system can can 

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have success it seems. 
Like, is this Fidel? 

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Oh, look at Fidel. 
Pete wanted to do rushing 

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ladders on him and I was like, 
I've been waiting for him to do 

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that every week. 
Don't worry, I ran it a bunch 

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myself. 
I, I was, I was stoked on Videl 

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here tonight, but I mean both 
him and estimate. 

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But the thing about we'll, we'll
get to talk about Watson with 

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our guest Mark Sessler, noted 
noted Browns fan. 

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So I'm sure he'll have some 
thoughts on that. 

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He looked really, it's our 
Browns angle that we have a 

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Deshaun Watson semi final. 
Yeah. 

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That's our angle, yeah. 
Yeah. 

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What the Chargers are doing 
early in this game is shocking 

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to me. 
I I wanted to play them to be 

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pass heavy pretty strongly and 
they've come out and they're 

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trying to establish the run 
against Pat. 

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You had the the numbers on 
Denver's Rushdie's really, 

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really strong. 
Teams throw against Denver. 

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They have like the fifth most 
pass attempts against or fourth 

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most pass attempts against this 
year. 

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Like that huge Jameis Winston 
game a few weeks ago was against

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Denver. 
Teams don't run on them, they 

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throw on them. 
But the Chargers are challenging

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that. 
They do both. 

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I mean, they're not like a huge,
huge pass funnel, right funnel 

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or anything. 
They just throw away more. 

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Like when you look at a past 
events, this is good. 

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You're like, oh, they're a run 
funnel probably and they're not.

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Yeah. 
Yeah, I mean, if they get 

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behind, they won't have much of 
A choice. 

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Right, right. 
But they've abandoned the run 

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since Dobbins got hurt 4 weeks 
ago and they have completely 

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abandoned the run. 
So it wasn't just Denver's D, it

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was the, you know, the Chargers.
So anyway, and then you come 

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into this matchup and it's like,
oh, we're going to, we're going 

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to run on five of our first 
seven offensive snaps. 

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It's it's legitimately shocking 
to me, surprising to me. 

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Yeah. 
They were kind of conservative 

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against the Chiefs a few weeks 
ago. 

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It kind of fluctuate. 
The way I was reading was like 

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they they kind of have this. 
They used to be dedicated to the

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run when they had Dobbins. 
And then after the buy, they 

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came out. 
Herbert's also healthier then 

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and they kind of start going 
past heavy. 

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And I remember like the DFS 
conversation really shifted. 

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They were like the the Chargers 
are past first team now and then

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they they. 
Didn't really like. 

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Is that? 
Palmer. 

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Palmer, get in. 
That would. 

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Have been nice to that would 
have been. 

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Something real nice, I know, 
because Palmer has to be what? 

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Like, I mean, we could go 
through the pot. 

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I bet we're the only Palmer. 
I'm sure we're the only Palmer 

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declined. 
We got to catch a guy that's 

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nice. 
Yeah, yeah. 

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It would be great if he had a 
nice spike game here. 

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I found I have estimated one of 
my two on my account that 

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advanced. 
Nice. 

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Oh, nice. 
Yeah, the one I showed you guys 

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that scored like 200 last week 
where I was like, yeah, this 

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team's like not that good 
though, because that was James 

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Conner and like Devonta Adams 
and I'm like, these guys are not

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going to score as much as they 
did. 

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For real this time. 
Stop the cow. 

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Stop. 
Are we in? 

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Yeah, we're in. 
I'm. 

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I'm down with that. 
My my estimated one's advancing 

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too. 
Fucking Gus. 

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Sit down buddy. 
At least we don't have anything 

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with fantasy points with him. 
Right, all right, let's see. 

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We were gonna do attempts under 
on him. 

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I was a little worried he might 
get like a bunch of goal line 

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work and like a sequence like 
this. 

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He's already got, you know, 
four. 

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Yeah, the attempts is. 
Yeah. 

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I felt bad about the yards 
because, like, part of it is 

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part of the reason we thought he
might not get the attempts 

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because he's been so bad. 
So you're like, all right, well,

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then maybe if we're wrong about 
who they play, we still win 

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because he's bad, right? 
Yeah. 

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At this point, I think you feel 
good that you have you have you 

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scored it. 
They're marking him. 

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Down oh, I never even saw a ref 
lifting up oh that guy came out 

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he. 
Finally did it'll be interesting

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to see if there's an angle on 
that because it did seem like 

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the ball was in his right hand 
as his hip came prime had it 

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from the top and he he came OK, 
it seemed like he probably was, 

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but why is the ball in his right
hand? 

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You know, that's not helpful. 
I don't know he's down. 

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You think I, I think on that 
goal line angle that. 

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It looked like his arm stretched
out because he switched. 

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He almost switched the ball. 
Yeah, I think he's in. 

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I guess I it's hard to tell 
exactly when his knee hits. 

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I'm not confirm that. 
Yeah, that was too. 

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I I thought his knee was going 
to come down quicker because 

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again, the ball's in the right 
hand. 

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But I think maybe you're right. 
He fell forward. 

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Well, I will say after last 
week's game, just having two 

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touchdowns right out of the gate
feels feels good. 

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Yeah, it does, although one of 
them's from one of like 5 unders

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we've taken all year. 
Yeah, but again, that one yard 

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doesn't. 
Yeah, that doesn't. 

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Matter. 
Yeah, not. 

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A not a great start for that 
under. 

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Did you guys happen to see the? 
I never even looked at the 

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spread or anything on this. 
This isn't the last week of 

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stealing signal. 
So I've been kind of checked out

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the last you know, 24 hours 
since I sent that out. 

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I was like, yes, made it think 
about like some of the things 

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that I haven't been doing and 
need to get done these last 

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couple days before Christmas. 
But I I forgot to do any like 

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digging into this game for 
stealing lines basically. 

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But when we were talking 
earlier, I was thinking maybe 

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the over would be interesting. 
Yeah, it was only 4141 1/2 

452
00:21:38,240 --> 00:21:40,000
because we were talking 
basically that we thought both 

453
00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:41,600
sides would would be pretty pass
heavy. 

454
00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,400
Because you thought that about 
the the Broncos as well, Pat. 

455
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:51,960
I did yeah, they yeah, they seem
fairly committed to the pass in 

456
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:56,400
terms of like pass whatever 
expected and pass rate and 

457
00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,640
they're just not really running 
the ball well. 

458
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,720
New good team has been good at 
running the ball. 

459
00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:07,040
But anyway, they've been, 
they've been running it so far. 

460
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,520
Yeah, we'll see. 
I mean, if the Broncos keep 

461
00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:16,880
putting up points, then they're 
going to have to and, and Gus is

462
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,080
not a passing down guy. 
So I think we, you know, if 

463
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,720
you're, if you're baiting Gus 
Edwards, the first quarter is 

464
00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,280
going to be the one that feels 
the worst. 

465
00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:26,600
Right. 
That's true. 

466
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:32,600
I like it sell, sell me on that 
We we got a 2021 yard cushion 

467
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,560
that. 
Started so I have I advanced one

468
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:44,440
BBM and got my pot has Gus 
Edwards come on so. 

469
00:22:45,360 --> 00:22:47,400
So does ours. 
Gus Edwards. 

470
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,080
Here's the other thing, Pete, 
you're saying we have a 21 yard 

471
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:51,880
cushion. 
Gus already has 6 touches. 

472
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,400
We were thinking the under on 
like, you know, 10:00-ish rush 

473
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,680
attempts or essentially touches 
because he barely catches and he

474
00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,640
passes. 
I mean, is he going to have 20 

475
00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:03,560
touches or like like Pat saying,
is this going to be like half of

476
00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,000
his usage for the whole game? 
And that's kind of what I think.

477
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,000
I do think they're going to 
start passing. 

478
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,400
But one of the things the, the 
reason so weird to me is I was 

479
00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:14,000
showing you guys, not that you 
asked, but I was going into like

480
00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:19,280
the, the actual Dr. logs from 
their last couple games in the 

481
00:23:19,280 --> 00:23:22,000
first parts of the game. 
Like they've come out and been 

482
00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,360
really pass heavy. 
And both of their first two 

483
00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:27,280
drives, the last two games, like
you mentioned that KC game, 

484
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,600
their PR, we ended up pretty 
neutral. 

485
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,680
But the first like couple 
drives, they came out passing 

486
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,640
with intent and then they were 
just like running. 

487
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:38,360
I was joking to like it seemed 
like to give their receivers a 

488
00:23:38,360 --> 00:23:40,480
breather after they would like 
throw for three straight downs 

489
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:42,600
and then they'd run on 1st and 
10 after they got a first and 

490
00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,280
10. 
And I, I mean, they did 

491
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:47,960
obviously end up running some 
throughout that game, but it was

492
00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:52,000
more like in the second-half. 
I was just kind of a close game 

493
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,720
with the Chiefs, but like they 
came out throwing in that one 

494
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:56,640
too. 
It's it's odd that they've 

495
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,800
started so run heavy, but I do 
think they're going to shift to 

496
00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,640
the pass. 
I think they'll shift, yeah. 

497
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,080
Estimate looks pretty good, 
don't he? 

498
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:09,360
Yeah, like does I'm excited 
about this BBM team if he can go

499
00:24:09,360 --> 00:24:11,800
on like he already has 8.4 or 
no? 

500
00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,520
Sorry, he has 7.2. 
I have necks on this team too, 

501
00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,720
but if he can go out and put up 
freaking 20 points that'd be 

502
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:23,840
pretty sweet. 
All right, we also have pick him

503
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,920
with a Sutton TD. 
Is that a Javante catch? 

504
00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,840
That was a Javante play for 
sure. 

505
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,920
Catches up on the lightest 
screen. 1 yard fumbles. 

506
00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:37,800
Man. 
Dude he has in the last like 5 

507
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:41,680
weeks he has three games with 
under 10 total yards even though

508
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:48,320
he plays like 50% of the snap. 
Yeah. 

509
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:52,400
Both of these teams, like their 
run games, are in very similar 

510
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:57,120
spots. 
Yeah, exactly. 

511
00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:59,800
It's not good. 
It's not a good spot. 

512
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,960
And then asking. 
Jaleel are the comps together 

513
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,400
Fidel and Esteve the. 
Comp. 

514
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:11,560
Oh, that was Troy. 
Oh, I skipped it. 

515
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:16,240
So that's the other part of the 
Mims bet is he does get some 

516
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,560
targets downfield. 
Still. 

517
00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,920
It's not a ton. 
We're talking about the sort of 

518
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,200
rotational stuff of this team. 
And so you bet on Mims to go 

519
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,680
over a certain number of 
receptions. 

520
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,680
He's not he's not maybe even 
going to run 50% of the routes 

521
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:30,880
in this game. 
You're really expecting it to be

522
00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,600
those like throws with intent 
out of the backfield and wide 

523
00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,480
receiver screens, the stuff 
that's been happening over the 

524
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,400
last five or six weeks every 
week. 

525
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,200
But he still will run a couple 
routes downfield. 

526
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:43,760
It'd be nice if he caught a, you
know, a downfield pass. 

527
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,200
That would be really helpful. 
He's on. 

528
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,600
He's split out here motioning 
here motioning. 

529
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,200
There he is there. 
Oh, I thought. 

530
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:53,120
He was on there. 
There's the Russian. 

531
00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,720
He was tough, yeah. 
We haven't seen that. 

532
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,800
Yeah, I liked his scrambling 
here because he would have time 

533
00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:02,480
to throw and a lot of his a lot 
of his scrambles have been from 

534
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:06,080
a clean pocket or when pressure 
was late. 

535
00:26:06,800 --> 00:26:09,680
So again with that late time to 
pressure, I was like, oh, you 

536
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,040
got it here. 
You'd say what? 

537
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:17,360
He's clean yet Mims was so open.
The pocket just broke down so 

538
00:26:17,360 --> 00:26:19,440
quick that he just stepped up 
and ran. 

539
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,960
That's the like high catch rate 
stuff we're talking about. 

540
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,240
Or if he swings out to Mims like
it, that's the part of it where 

541
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,280
I felt like the models maybe are
missing it. 

542
00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,360
They're like, well, a wide 
receiver with an 85% catch rate 

543
00:26:38,360 --> 00:26:40,080
over these last five weeks, 
that's unsustainable. 

544
00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:41,640
But you're like, no, when you 
really dig into where the 

545
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,560
targets are coming, these are 
85% catch rate targets. 

546
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,040
I mean, that's that's what they 
are. 

547
00:26:50,800 --> 00:26:52,760
That's a nice vision by estimate
there. 

548
00:26:53,080 --> 00:27:01,360
It is, yeah. 
He looks good. 

549
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,240
He's the 1:00 we, we ended up 
playing the ladders and Pete, 

550
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:08,120
you said you, you came in this 
mourning and like both vital and

551
00:27:08,120 --> 00:27:10,200
and estimate and I, I thought 
those were both really fun. 

552
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,880
I, I was basically like, I don't
want to sweat Vital again 

553
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:15,600
because I've been telling people
all year to to pick him up and 

554
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:19,400
stash him over at signals and 
everything and watching him 

555
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:21,600
waiting. 
For something running out of 

556
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,960
runway for for these because I 
mean, I will say though, the 

557
00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,280
past couple of weeks have been 
talk about a cascading, you 

558
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,720
know, windfall for for zero RB 
drafters. 

559
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,240
We just get the news today about
Camara opening up, Kendra 

560
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,480
Miller, potentially like lots of
guys coming out of nowhere here.

561
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,560
Is he officially going to going 
to sit? 

562
00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:42,760
The report made it seem 
incredibly. 

563
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:49,480
Helpful for Camara, Yeah. 
Yeah, Watson is already back, 

564
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:50,840
though. 
It's not just the Camara got 

565
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,320
hurt too, it's that they fired 
the guy who hates Kendra Miller.

566
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,200
I didn't have that much Kendra 
Miller, but it's still like 

567
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,080
amazing. 
Like the run out for Miller is 

568
00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:59,680
so. 
Good. 

569
00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:02,520
You know he's. 
And then the first day after 

570
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:07,280
they fired that guy, the new 
coach is like, we wish he wasn't

571
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,120
on IR. 
Why did he get on? 

572
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:13,320
IRS the lacked act, last act of 
defiance of Dennis Allen. 

573
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,760
He was like no, we're putting 
Kendrick Miller on IR on like 

574
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,680
Saturday night before the game. 
Then they get their butt beat on

575
00:28:18,680 --> 00:28:20,560
Sunday. 
He gets fired on Monday and he 

576
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,120
was just like I'm sick of him 
getting hurt. 

577
00:28:22,120 --> 00:28:23,960
I'm putting him on IR right 
before this game and then he's 

578
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:27,680
fired two days later. 
It's so bad, but he's healthy 

579
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,560
now. 
He's healthy now and Camara 

580
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,560
isn't, so it's a kind of amazing
for the 0 running back stuff. 

581
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:40,440
But yeah, I had a really fun 
FFPC team with Draco that had 

582
00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:46,440
Kendra on it as a, you know, a 
long shot element to it that had

583
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,040
a shot to advance on Monday 
night this week. 

584
00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,960
Just needed more from either 
Bijan or Bowers or even 

585
00:28:51,960 --> 00:28:55,600
potentially Pitts. 
That was a Falcon stack and all 

586
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:59,160
those guys were well below. 
I mean, Pitts actually probably 

587
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,560
hit his expectation, but it's 
not like he had a good game. 

588
00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:06,760
Bowers and and Bijon was Bijon 
was like like 14 or 15 PPR 

589
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,760
points, but he'd been over 20 in
like 7 of eight games, you know,

590
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:14,040
and he needed twenty lost by a 
few points from advancing. 

591
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:17,960
But that would have been a that 
team has like or had it's dead 

592
00:29:17,960 --> 00:29:19,840
now. 
Had Bucky and and Chase Brown 

593
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:25,080
and Bijon and and also had 
Kendre had lad, had Brian Thomas

594
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:28,400
Lamar team had Bowers, had Trey 
McBride. 

595
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,640
Such a fun team. 
I'm sad about it. 

596
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,040
The Monday night was just was so
brutal like it basically if you 

597
00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:37,800
needed anything like. 
I had Bowers in a in A555 with 

598
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,720
me and Eric buying for competing
for the last two spots. 

599
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:42,400
He had Aaron Jones, I had 
Bowers. 

600
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,280
He got in. 
Bowers didn't. 

601
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:47,040
Do. 
Shit, even if you had Jefferson 

602
00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,840
and it's like you get the one 
score but then you watch him 

603
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,400
drop what would have been 
another touchdown. 

604
00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:54,640
And he was like. 
Come on, look who it is. 

605
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:56,720
We got our rain. 
Check our guests. 

606
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,800
Hello, Mark Sessler. 
Give the call. 

607
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,720
How we doing Mark? 
You know, like the last time I, 

608
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,760
I, I'm gonna tell you something 
about how sound systems work. 

609
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,240
Like the last time I have an 
earpiece in right. 

610
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:10,760
And I'd had it since Corona, 
like way back COVID and on. 

611
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:14,760
This is the most embarrassing 
story, but the reason it did not

612
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,560
work last time. 
And I, I had, I, I, I bought a 

613
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,200
whole and entire new sound 
system for lots of money because

614
00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,240
there was ear wax. 
Stuck in it. 

615
00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,440
Oh. 
No, I'm just telling you that so

616
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,760
like what a what an what an what
an annoyance that it happened 

617
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,880
not and this was meant to be 
Bengals Browns, but it's this 

618
00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,040
game instead. 
But what a I'm happy to be with 

619
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,040
here with you tonight. 
Yeah, no, we're we're happy to 

620
00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:38,760
have you. 
Yeah, we slumped. 

621
00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:42,360
It didn't work out last time. 
And yeah, it, you know, our 

622
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,200
thematic tie insurance for the 
guests, they tend to get like 

623
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,040
looser and looser as the season 
goes on. 

624
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,840
So it's, well, completely OK. 
So the the the tie in at this 

625
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,680
point is this was originally 
scheduled to be a Browns game I 

626
00:30:54,680 --> 00:30:55,280
guess. 
It was that's. 

627
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:57,480
The tie in? 
Yep. 

628
00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,840
Well, I will say at least I 
worked. 

629
00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:05,240
I worked literally about 14 feet
away from Sofi Stadium for years

630
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,840
for a number. 
For a number of years I count. 

631
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,200
There we go. 
That's a tie in, right? 

632
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:09,920
And this is a tie. 
Yeah. 

633
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,080
The and where are you at with 
your Browns fandom? 

634
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,120
Is it kind of like, because when
we had Dan on, he basically 

635
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,680
described his relationship with 
The Jets as like a Gwyneth 

636
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,160
Paltrow conscious uncoupling 
where they were kinded together 

637
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,400
but not really together. 
And he kind of made it sound 

638
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,680
like that's similar to your 
relationship with the Browns. 

639
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:30,400
Wow. 
Yeah. 

640
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:34,080
Like, I don't like that he took 
Gwyneth because I'm of the age 

641
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,600
where Gwyneth was like kind of a
thing to me back then. 

642
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,640
Now she's not. 
Now she's doing her goop and 

643
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,600
she's sort of annoying. 
But like I, the Browns have 

644
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,400
pounded me into submission to 
the point where, like, I have no

645
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:48,080
feelings. 
Does that. 

646
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,000
Make sense? 
It's like, it's like. 

647
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:51,800
I kind of don't care what you 
do. 

648
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,800
And it's like you might get a 
new quarterback, a new coach, a 

649
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,120
new GM. 
We'll see if it's like you've 

650
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:58,880
done enough. 
You've hurt me so long. 

651
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,680
And like, I think we're in a 
world and we're like, we wake up

652
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:04,280
into new worlds of awareness 
where it's like, oh, I've been 

653
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:07,840
like everyone. 
I've I have been in the the the 

654
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,120
abusive relationship for since 
1986. 

655
00:32:12,520 --> 00:32:15,160
Oh my God. 
And what have you brought me 

656
00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:16,960
like it is the answer is 
nothing. 

657
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,920
That's the definitive answer. 
You brought me nothing. 

658
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:20,840
So like I want to keep going 
but. 

659
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,000
What is like the the highlight 
of of the Browns? 

660
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,400
Well, I mean literally nothing 
for some of those years. 

661
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,760
They were gone for what, 30 or 4
years of those years? 

662
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,840
The highlight might have been 
when they were gone. 

663
00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:35,720
Because I I went, I would. 
Go to sports bars. 

664
00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,520
Well, I'd go to sports bars and 
that was like Brett Favre's I 

665
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:43,760
think 2 MVP campaigns and like, 
I became kind of a Brett Favre 

666
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:46,440
guide way back when, during that
time. 

667
00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:51,120
But the Browns, when they win 
little tiny prime time games 

668
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,880
like that helps, you know, But I
think in the early, in the mid, 

669
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:59,160
in the mid like 1980s, like they
to me were fascinating with 

670
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,960
wonderful characters and Marty 
Schottenheimer and I believed in

671
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,160
them. 
And, you know, I knew the names 

672
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,280
of all the players, wives and 
everything like. 

673
00:33:07,280 --> 00:33:11,160
And now it's, but it's become 
more dull and more distant. 

674
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,760
Yeah. 
Because like, I, I feel like 

675
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,480
that I don't, I don't want to 
speak for everyone. 

676
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,120
There's still certainly lots of 
people in the fantasy community 

677
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,400
who have their teams they root 
for. 

678
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,600
But for me, it's like beating 
the fandom out of me. 

679
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,800
I grew up a Denver fan, but like
covering the NFL, does it? 

680
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,360
Did it do the same thing because
you're following all the stories

681
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,320
or did that that journalist side
still allow you to kind of have 

682
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:35,320
that fandom? 
Well, you know, it's like 

683
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:37,400
talking to Dan. 
Like, you know, like our show, 

684
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,720
we kind of were like, if we're 
going to do this, like we've got

685
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,720
to be like you guys, like we're 
going to like be who we're into 

686
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,280
and be real and like not we're 
we're not NBC News. 

687
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:50,520
This is not Tom Brokaw. 
So like I always was open with 

688
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,240
my brown. 
I think it was very affected and

689
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:56,240
very wild and very open in the 
like the large portion of our 

690
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,280
previous show at NFL Network. 
And like, it didn't take my 

691
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,560
fandom away. 
It didn't it made me it it, I 

692
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,280
felt closer to it. 
But then the Browns, though, 

693
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,440
they're just like pounding you 
overhead with a baseball bat. 

694
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:11,960
So they they took it away. 
You know, it's hard to follow a 

695
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,639
team that can't make the right 
decisions. 

696
00:34:13,639 --> 00:34:15,360
I think they've been a little 
bit better actually. 

697
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,679
And obviously in recent years, 
like Stefanski's a good coach 

698
00:34:18,679 --> 00:34:22,440
and all that stuff. 
But you know, like the like 

699
00:34:22,679 --> 00:34:26,000
Deshaun Watson, that changed a 
lot. 

700
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:29,159
Did that change? 
Did that change it like the 

701
00:34:29,159 --> 00:34:31,120
experience of kind of being a 
Browns fan? 

702
00:34:32,199 --> 00:34:36,400
I like, I'm gonna be real like 
not in like a woke way where 

703
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,480
like I can't handle this cause 
like I think we've got players 

704
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:43,560
in all these teams, right? 
But like he was, I wanted him if

705
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:47,600
anything to say I understand why
people feel the way they feel 

706
00:34:48,679 --> 00:34:50,679
about me. 
And like, here's where I'm at 

707
00:34:50,679 --> 00:34:52,639
and here's here's my plan to 
grow. 

708
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,080
Not that, you know, I could tell
that to people too. 

709
00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,240
That would be nice. 
They would like to but like but 

710
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,480
yes, I think it it it seemed 
like the most ridiculous out of 

711
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:07,200
pocket move by a team that felt 
desperate and they they and 

712
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,480
they've never really connected 
with the fan base off of that 

713
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,480
decision. 
I think they this is you're a 

714
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,840
Broncos. 
We've got like we like the 

715
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:17,760
Browns fans have been there 
forever. 

716
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,440
Like you don't move to another 
city, marry a woman, have kids 

717
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,880
and then fall in love with like 
the like, like the New Orleans, 

718
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,880
like you stay a Browns fan. 
And like, I think that I think 

719
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,040
that they really did Browns fans
wrong. 

720
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,840
They put them in a tough spot 
and they put me in a tough spot.

721
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,440
Also, when we have to talk about
this stuff, it's like I'm not 

722
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:40,720
here to support Deshaun Watson 
and whatever it is he did. 

723
00:35:40,720 --> 00:35:43,240
I I don't I'm not the FBI. 
I don't know what he did, but 

724
00:35:43,240 --> 00:35:47,160
like, it's yeah, it was it was a
rough it it was a rough 

725
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:51,440
situation with no real healing. 
And they've never the Browns too

726
00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:55,040
have never really, I thought 
felt responsible about like we 

727
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:59,560
understand this is tough for, 
you know, children, girls, boys,

728
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:04,360
men, wives, aunts, uncles, fat 
aunts, fat uncles, like everyone

729
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:06,200
like we don't know. 
And like they never, they never.

730
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:09,720
It was just sort of like this 
sort of distilled, silent, icy 

731
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:11,160
move. 
And so I never it's. 

732
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,200
Kind of the worst part of fan 
where like they're like you root

733
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,760
for this guy now enjoy that. 
Yeah, exactly. 

734
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,960
It's well said because it's 
like, I think it's split that 

735
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,520
you had these like Bros that 
were like, if you don't just if 

736
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,800
you don't support him, you're 
not a real fan. 

737
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:28,000
It's like, well, I'm, I'm sorry,
like I've read a newspaper. 

738
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:32,880
So I'm excited about like this 
situation, but you know, that's 

739
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:33,840
how it works. 
Sorry for reading. 

740
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,640
One newspaper off when, like the
fans of the other 31 teams are 

741
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,840
all basically rooting, you know,
against him and the Browns and 

742
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,120
all of that. 
I mean, that's got to be kinda 

743
00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:44,720
hard too. 
You're like, I mean, it's 

744
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,680
everything you said. 
It resonates where you're like, 

745
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,120
I mean, it's not my choice. 
And I don't know what he 

746
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:50,960
actually did. 
And it's kind of just thrust 

747
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,600
upon me as a fan. 
But everyone else on the outside

748
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:56,680
is like, well, yeah, we kind of 
just want the Browns to get 

749
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,440
their karma. 
And it's, there's been a lot of,

750
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:00,520
you know, schodenfreude or 
whatever from that. 

751
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:04,960
That is the perfect comment. 
That is the perfect comment 

752
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:08,720
because I think the one thing 
that the Cleveland Browns had, 

753
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:11,520
and there's a couple teams like 
this, you know, the Chicago Cubs

754
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:16,000
in in sports where it's like we 
get that you suck, but we kind 

755
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,440
of root for you because you're 
the people's team. 

756
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,560
And we don't and we go through 
hard times, like we suck 

757
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:24,720
sometimes. 
But the Browns do too. 

758
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:27,880
And like if they were to survive
and win and win a playoff game 

759
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,040
like they did with Baker 
Mayfield against the Steelers, 

760
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:33,320
like kind of America and kind of
the world can get behind that. 

761
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:37,120
And like what it turned it into 
was like you're you suck, but 

762
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:41,240
you also did the most evil 
thing, like even Darth Vader 

763
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:43,440
like turn cool at the end, 
right? 

764
00:37:43,520 --> 00:37:45,960
Like he was like, I'm sorry, 
like I'm your dad. 

765
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,240
I kind of love you. 
Like this was a bit of a, this 

766
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,200
was a bit of an act, bit of an 
act like went through a lot of 

767
00:37:51,320 --> 00:37:52,960
drama here, but. 
Like the whole helmet thing, I 

768
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,600
took it a little too far. 
Yeah, exactly. 

769
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:57,080
Like, I'm sorry, now I'm pale 
and I look ridiculous, but like 

770
00:37:57,720 --> 00:38:02,320
it's like the Browns like seem 
to have no morals at this point.

771
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:05,720
And I and I do think that Kevin 
Stefanski does, for instance. 

772
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,280
And it's like, I'm confused 
because it's like, I think 

773
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:12,680
Andrew Berry does like the GM 
and it's like what happened here

774
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,040
and who's in charge and like how
no one's explained it to anyone.

775
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,320
And it's the lack of we've all 
any relationship. 

776
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,920
Like the lack of communication 
creates distress, creates mind 

777
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,920
games. 
And like the Browns have not 

778
00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,680
communicated well with anyone. 
And I think that's bad for a 

779
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:32,120
team. 
It's a bad, it's a bad move for 

780
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,440
a sports team. 
That's super interesting because

781
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,360
that's the perception I've 
gotten always from Stefanski and

782
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:39,040
Barry too. 
It's like, individually they 

783
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:44,200
seem like great people, but 
then, Yep, they've been very 

784
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,760
much like falling in line and 
fully in support of something 

785
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:49,160
that you're like, well, did I 
miss something? 

786
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:50,720
You know, that am I? 
Yeah. 

787
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:52,840
I mean, what I I mean, I 
remember reading at the time 

788
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,840
Stefanski was like, showing 
plays on the iPad and kind of 

789
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,280
convincing Watson he'd be a 
great fit for the system. 

790
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,160
So it seemed like there wasn't 
any twisting of the arm there. 

791
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:06,560
He seemed pretty pretty into it.
Into your point too, of just 

792
00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:10,720
like not playing the fan base as
fools, Like we live in a media 

793
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,120
era where if you're authentic 
and you say the quiet part out 

794
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,360
loud and you just call it out 
like they respect you. 

795
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,800
If you just own your L, people 
will respect you so much more. 

796
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,120
If you're like, hey, we messed 
up. 

797
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,800
It's a tough spot. 
Like it's almost a simple PR 

798
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,120
playbook. 
And they just decided to just, 

799
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,440
you know, just shut up and be 
like, all right, here's Jameis 

800
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,240
Winston and now here's DTR. 
Just deal with it. 

801
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,880
I, I think you're so right like 
it, they could have solved this 

802
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:37,840
2 summers ago and or at least 
started to heal it, but it would

803
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:41,600
have it, it also would have 
required Deshaun Watson, the 

804
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,880
person who I don't think is 
capable of this. 

805
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:45,320
I think that's, this is part of 
the problem. 

806
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:48,360
It's like you were good at 
football at, what, four years 

807
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:49,880
ago at this point, 4 1/2. 
Years. 

808
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:51,840
Five years, Like four years ago.
Yeah. 

809
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:57,400
And as a person, we we have 
detected and information and 

810
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,440
resources have told us that 
you're not a. 

811
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,320
I'm not just saying not a good 
person, I don't, I'm not trying 

812
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,640
to be judgmental, but like 
you've done things that don't 

813
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:09,280
work in the framework of our 
society and we've got to try to 

814
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:12,280
figure out a way to like make 
you marketable or or like help 

815
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,120
you heal and change and grow. 
I'm always big. 

816
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,720
I'd be bad. 
I'd be fine with that. 

817
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,880
Not just in this case, it's a 
little exorbitant, but like 

818
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,280
change, grow and we work with 
you. 

819
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,880
But like none of that's been 
done by the team, by the player 

820
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,840
and like, and that and that's 
what's sort of sad about like 

821
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,440
even what happened with Jameis 
Winston to get benched. 

822
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,920
It's like he he, I get that he 
was not a perfect individual 

823
00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:38,520
either, but like he also came in
as a hot PR candidate with like 

824
00:40:38,520 --> 00:40:41,440
incredible quotes that came out 
of like the Old Testament and. 

825
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,400
Abby Jameis is pawn man. 
He's no endearing, yeah. 

826
00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:45,880
Yeah, I I always root for 
Jameis. 

827
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:47,400
I do too. 
No, I'm with you too. 

828
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:50,600
Like, I like that was like all 
these teams, all these teams 

829
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,520
were human beings. 
So it's like, I want to forgive,

830
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:57,160
you know, but like for him to 
meltdown and now he's gone too. 

831
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,120
It's like this team for me just 
feels out of you're out of 

832
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:01,880
moves, you're out of moves. 
We've all been there. 

833
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:03,680
You're out of moves. 
Like you got to go disappear 

834
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,160
into the wilderness. 
Nick Chubb was another really 

835
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:09,000
fun, positive thing when he 
comes back, and now he's. 

836
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:11,720
Out that right. 
I think that's the point you're 

837
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:15,120
you're making about like kind of
the America rallying around the,

838
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:18,640
the Lions are kind they they 
really prove that point that 

839
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,560
that's sort of the energy that 
you're, you're talking the 

840
00:41:20,560 --> 00:41:23,360
potential, right? 
Like as downtrodden team, you 

841
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,920
kind of build it up, you kind of
you, you get the cast off 

842
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,160
quarterback, you know that no 
one wants that. 

843
00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:30,520
No one thinks it's going to be 
good. 

844
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,720
And you kind of turn them into 
something you you build around 

845
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:33,920
them. 
It could. 

846
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,560
I mean, that's like the the 
dream, you know? 

847
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,120
Yeah. 
Really interesting discussion of

848
00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,640
like culture here where because 
didn't Amari Cooper have a 

849
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,840
little bit of a quote after he 
got traded about like he just 

850
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,280
wasn't real happy with I. 
I thought I saw something where 

851
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,520
he just basically wasn't 
enjoying playing with Deshaun 

852
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,880
Watson basically. 
I I what I heard from one person

853
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:58,280
who I trust very much was that 
the way that we feel about that 

854
00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:02,840
quarterback and that whole 
experience it, we're all like, 

855
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:04,080
they don't feel that 
differently. 

856
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,040
They felt the same way. 
And I think that if anything, 

857
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:11,720
Jameis for his, you know, 
foibles on the field, like kind 

858
00:42:11,720 --> 00:42:14,600
of lifted them up and it's, it's
always like anyone but him. 

859
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,600
And yeah, you know what I mean? 
It was anyone but him and the 

860
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,280
Nick. 
James plays with like a little 

861
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,680
too much confidence on the 
field. 

862
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,520
Well, sure. 
Sure. 

863
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:25,880
And I feel like that. 
He's just like. 

864
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:27,800
He's just like. 
He just can't. 

865
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,960
It's like, oh, are you my friend
on edibles at the dance club and

866
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,760
it we're all 21, like I love, I 
love you and you're going to do 

867
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,960
incredible things, but you're 
going to do things that we're 

868
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,840
all going to have to answer for 
And like I but I would take that

869
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,560
over not I wouldn't take it 
forever, but. 

870
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,720
Like he's got some bar fetched 
business ideas, you know, Yes. 

871
00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:48,120
He does. 
Yes, he does. 

872
00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:50,520
I mean, they were more fun with 
him. 

873
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,920
Like there was this like two 
week period where I think Browns

874
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,040
fans felt brought back into. 
We've all rooted for teams that 

875
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:58,920
suck. 
It's like can like I'm giving 

876
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:04,040
you hours of my life, of my 
thought period, of my time, my 

877
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,160
money. 
It's not even money. 

878
00:43:05,160 --> 00:43:09,120
It's just like my investment. 
And in return you give me 

879
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:10,760
nothing. 
Like if, like I've always said, 

880
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,080
if it were a girl and now I've 
fallen into this trap, you know,

881
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,160
in my youth too. 
But like, it's like I'd be out 

882
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:19,800
of here in 2 minutes. 
But somehow the Browns have kept

883
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,440
me in this marriage for, you 
know, 40 plus years, which is 

884
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,200
that speaks to me as much as 
anyone else. 

885
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:28,520
So I am I am the one that the 
press should come. 

886
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,960
Out look inward loyalty. 
Model. 

887
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:31,000
Yeah, exactly. 
Loyalty. 

888
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,280
Yeah, that's. 
That's what it. 

889
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:35,480
Says is it loyalty or is it? 
Does it become something? 

890
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:37,320
Am I dim? 
I could be dim. 

891
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:43,480
So the the the other funny tie 
in mark with the Browns is so, 

892
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,280
you know, underdogs. 
Big flagship tournament best 

893
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:50,200
ball mania $1.5 million prize. 
Pat Crane here has won this 

894
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,400
tournament before. 
Where? 

895
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,600
He won $1.5 million. 
Two. 

896
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,400
Was actually. 
More than that was actually. 2 

897
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:57,440
million. 
Just to be more, yeah. 

898
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:00,280
This guy, well. 
Yeah, and he's still what is 

899
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:01,200
this show? 
Can you believe that? 

900
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:02,440
Why are you still? 
Yeah, exactly. 

901
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,360
Why you're not a, You should be 
a like. 

902
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,960
Ibiza at this point. 
Just he's like a Browns fan. 

903
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,000
He has Stockholm syndrome. 
He doesn't know what else to do 

904
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:14,680
but to show up. 
So we collectively draft a 

905
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,000
couple teams, you know, on this 
stream throughout the summer. 

906
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:21,200
And one of our teams that we 
drafted on May 2nd, like right 

907
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,360
after the NFL draft is in the 
semi finals right now. 

908
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,920
And it has Deshaun Watson on it.
And it it we we don't know how 

909
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,200
it happened. 
We got a very big contributor. 

910
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:35,960
The team immediately got good 
once he was done for the season.

911
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:39,320
So that's our I have a team 
named Watson and that's the one 

912
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,400
we have to to root for. 
Here with the you, you mentioned

913
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,720
earlier in the stream in the 
first quarter that you don't 

914
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:46,880
have a lot of emojis in your 
team names, but it's named 

915
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,120
Watson with a vomit emoji. 
Yeah, so this was, I name all 

916
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:53,760
the teams after it was 52 ship 
chasing 358 twos, the build 

917
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:57,960
Watson and then the vomit emoji.
And that's that's our team here.

918
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,520
Well, I so hold on, I'm a 
novice, but like who's? 

919
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,480
I'm assuming someone's playing 
quarterback on a. 

920
00:45:03,880 --> 00:45:07,200
Baker Baker's been. 
That's my fantasy guy. 

921
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:11,120
And like how ironic that is, How
ironic that is. 

922
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,160
Like had you just built A-Team 
around him? 

923
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,800
Like I I had to shift gears and 
I'm not a big fantasy person, 

924
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,760
but like I do care about it. 
And like I was in a league with 

925
00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,600
a bunch of high school friends. 
It's a ton of shit talking left 

926
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:25,880
and right about your girlfriends
from like 1991 and all this 

927
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:27,560
stuff. 
It's like, so it's like I like 

928
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,960
got Baker Mayfield in there and 
he started kicking people's 

929
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:33,120
asses like, and it's like, Hey, 
check out, check it out. 

930
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:37,760
Dan, my science class person I 
sat next to in 1990, like he 

931
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:39,400
just kicked your ass. 
So I love that kind of stuff. 

932
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:41,720
But like, I don't know what 
you're doing with Deshaun Watson

933
00:45:41,720 --> 00:45:43,560
still in the roster. 
You're not allowed to drop him 

934
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:44,480
or you. 
Like you can't drop. 

935
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,760
No, you keep everyone stuff the 
whole year, Yeah. 

936
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,840
Well, you're the Browns then. 
That's you're basically. 

937
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:50,600
The Browns. 
Yeah, that's right. 

938
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,440
Yeah. 
And we had to grapple with the 

939
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:55,800
decision when we made the pick. 
We weren't pleased about it. 

940
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,640
There's a lot of. 
We started doing a bit because 

941
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,640
we drafted them a few times. 
Grapple. 

942
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,120
We all have. 
We all have daughters, so we 

943
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,520
would tell heartfelt stories 
about our daughters whenever we 

944
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,120
just our penance for drafting 
him. 

945
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:12,000
Well, I like, I kind of like I, 
I don't lower you down a notch 

946
00:46:12,080 --> 00:46:15,400
as a threesome, but like, I'd, 
I'd say that was a rough move. 

947
00:46:15,400 --> 00:46:17,000
Like you could have gone. 
Almost to like. 

948
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,720
Anywhere else so like. 
We wanted Justin, remember? 

949
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:20,920
We got Snipe. 
You're welcome. 

950
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:22,360
We got Snitch. 
Yeah. 

951
00:46:22,600 --> 00:46:25,320
That's right, yeah. 
We do have a a few other rooting

952
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,720
interests in this game, though. 
We had, we have Devante 

953
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:31,080
Williams, you know, not holding 
out hope there, but we have Ladd

954
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,000
and Joshua Palmer and that 
hasn't reflected here, but Ladd 

955
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,800
just had a pretty nice catch. 
So, you know, we got some some 

956
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:39,880
fun stuff to sweat. 
Ladd has been like, I mean, I 

957
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:42,600
don't know how many people 
jumped on him out of the gate. 

958
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:45,520
I think you would have like as a
in a draft situation. 

959
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:47,400
But like, I do find it 
interesting. 

960
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:48,800
Like, I can't think of too many 
teams. 

961
00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:52,080
We're like, we're gonna base our
entire passing game around the 

962
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,200
idea that this rookie might 
work. 

963
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,240
Right. 
And that worked. 

964
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,040
It did work. 
It did work. 

965
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,360
I think a lot, you know, other 
stuff's not. 

966
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,600
They also got, you know what I 
think like Quentin Johnson has 

967
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,520
only four more receivers have 
more touchdowns than him. 

968
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,000
That doesn't mean that he's not 
a frustrating individual, but 

969
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,960
like they I do believe in them 
in the sense that like a couple 

970
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,040
years from now they're going to 
have the roster they want. 

971
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,800
Like I've always thought. 
Like I'll tell you one story. 

972
00:47:22,320 --> 00:47:25,160
Like I was at a in Indianapolis 
after the combine in 

973
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,200
Indianapolis. 
I was at a pizza joint at in the

974
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:35,160
airport and I randomly sat down 
next to Greg Roman and he was, 

975
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:38,560
this was at the end of the 
Niners, Jim Harbaugh, Greg Roman

976
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:40,880
world. 
And like he was, I think he had 

977
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:45,800
a couple beers and like a little
frustrated with the power 

978
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:48,960
structure with the Niners and 
felt like he was not getting the

979
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,000
recognition he deserved. 
So and it was a little bit about

980
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:53,120
Harbaugh. 
I think they're just like 

981
00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,320
clashing. 
Like I was always surprised that

982
00:47:56,360 --> 00:48:00,040
they that they joined back 
together, that they came back 

983
00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,640
together and do this. 
Well, so then he is that before 

984
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:08,000
he was the Bills head coach. 
Well, no, no Roman. 

985
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,440
Roman from there moved on to he.
No, this was ages ago. 

986
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:14,280
This is like end of Niners. 
Era. 

987
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:18,480
End of Niners era. 
Yeah, that was so then 2011, 

988
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:21,600
2014 he was with the Niners and 
then 2015 is when he was with 

989
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,400
the Bills. 
Yeah, exactly. 

990
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,120
So it was pre bills. 
It was more like literally at 

991
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:29,920
the tail end of it was the first
combine I went to and like I'm 

992
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,840
like I'm meeting. 
I'm He asked, he was like, would

993
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:35,520
you like a piece of my pizza? 
That was the other weird thing 

994
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,720
that happened was like, no, but 
like I'll keep talking with you.

995
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:42,640
But like he liked to espouse his
opinions and like I think they 

996
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,400
love each other. 
Number one, I really do. 

997
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:48,600
I'm not speaking negative of 
Greg Roman, but like they, I 

998
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,840
think he was just frustrated. 
I think Greg Roman, like works 

999
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,720
for about 3 years wherever he 
goes. 

1000
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,400
It's about 3 years, then it kind
of tires out a little. 

1001
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:58,880
But like we'll see where we go 
here. 

1002
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:01,240
But like I'd love to see where 
they are in year 2. 

1003
00:49:01,240 --> 00:49:05,560
I really would. 
That's, I mean, that's some 

1004
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:08,920
really good insight that is 
that, that's not the first like 

1005
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:11,240
airport anecdote we've had from 
one of our guests. 

1006
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:14,240
We had Robert Mays on last year 
telling us about a Travis Kelsey

1007
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:16,000
Airport anecdote, if I recall 
right. 

1008
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:20,480
Yeah, they bumped into, I forget
what the story was, but they 

1009
00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:23,560
bumped into them in the airport.
When you go to these, when you 

1010
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:26,000
go to the like, so it's 
Indianapolis, it's a, it's a 

1011
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,800
small quaint. 
And I live in LA. 

1012
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:32,320
So LAX is like a Al Qaeda is in 
charge of LAX. 

1013
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:34,960
I feel like at this point, but 
like if you go to Indianapolis, 

1014
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:38,200
like it's, it's very quaint and 
there's only a, it's kind of 

1015
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:39,440
nice. 
Downtown, I've been there once. 

1016
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,440
It's like it's cool. 
It's it's like, yeah. 

1017
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,680
Like that's why the, but that's 
why the combine works because 

1018
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,280
you are all like compact, but 
then you go to the airport and 

1019
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,920
everyone like has certain 
flights and like you are sitting

1020
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,360
around agents, you're sitting 
around and I'm not, I'm not the 

1021
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:56,080
biggest like talker to these 
people, but like you will be 

1022
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,680
shocked by who, who you would be
with. 

1023
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:01,120
And they're drinking beers and 
then and then, you know, they 

1024
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,400
start to talk, so. 
Nice. 

1025
00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,320
Sorry, sorry Mark, we're a 
little distracted here too. 

1026
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,640
Without we, we put Marvin Mims 
in our in our pickums for 

1027
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:14,080
tonight, but really, but 
unfortunately we have receptions

1028
00:50:14,080 --> 00:50:15,680
and not yards, but we're still 
in. 

1029
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,280
Huge play. 
Yeah. 

1030
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:20,680
That was awesome. 
There's a backfield. 

1031
00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:21,840
Backfield. 
Yeah. 

1032
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,720
Yeah. 
So, Pat, I wonder if that's why 

1033
00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:28,760
you weren't seeing a like strict
backfield alignment on a lot of 

1034
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,880
those numbers you're digging 
into is that he does the the 

1035
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:32,680
motion and so that winds up 
getting. 

1036
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,000
Yeah, he might be yeah. 
My count is like Flag does out 

1037
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,160
wide. 
Yeah, that's interesting. 

1038
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,560
Huge play. 
I'm watching this too. 

1039
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,920
Let's get Javonte for. 
Come on, catch the ball, come. 

1040
00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:50,240
On well, that was a huge play. 
Frustrating year. 

1041
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,480
I mean, I will say that Beau 
absolutely rocketed that in 

1042
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,520
there. 
It didn't need to be a laser. 

1043
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,040
No, he did. 
That's such a Sean Payton play 

1044
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,960
right there, too. 
So because we talked. 

1045
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,440
About the Shawn Watson I have 
and I'll have my daughter with 

1046
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:12,240
me. 
Vivian. 

1047
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:14,200
Britney's trying. 
Britney's trying to eat dinner, 

1048
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,720
so she's trying. 
To, well, look at that little 

1049
00:51:15,920 --> 00:51:18,520
incredibly cute human person, 
that's amazing. 

1050
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:22,680
That's Bailey. 
Wow. 

1051
00:51:23,640 --> 00:51:27,720
Bailey. 
Bonex is cooking. 

1052
00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:32,080
Mark, you were talking about, 
but the when your Browns fandom 

1053
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,040
started and I was just curious, 
like those are probably some 

1054
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,040
good days. 
I think you said 86, right? 

1055
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,760
And I pull up their franchise 
encyclopedia to kind of remind 

1056
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:41,840
myself, because I know that it. 
Was it was 86. 

1057
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,800
So here's the weird thing. 
I lived in Connecticut and I was

1058
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,320
everyone around me like new like
New York, like right near New 

1059
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:51,760
York. 
So it's like everyone's a Jets 

1060
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:55,120
fan or a giants fan, like Dan 
who, you know, Co hosts, like 

1061
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,880
Dan was a jets fan, but like 
everyone's a everyone followed 

1062
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:02,760
one of those two teams and back 
then this is like just about a 

1063
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:04,800
couple years after like the 
civil war. 

1064
00:52:04,800 --> 00:52:08,120
So like not teams weren't all 
on, you know, you couldn't 

1065
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,800
follow every team. 
You couldn't watch them unless 

1066
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,400
you like so it really was for 
like The Jets and Giants. 

1067
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:18,080
It was like Bill Parcells. 
It was Bill Parcells giants and 

1068
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,800
The Jets team that like was 
going through stuff. 

1069
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:25,480
But like, I had a friend, my 
best friend that moved in to my 

1070
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:28,920
middle school from Cleveland and
we started our own TV station at

1071
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,400
the school and stuff. 
But like he was a Browns fan. 

1072
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:34,720
He's like, you've got to follow 
these this Browns team. 

1073
00:52:34,720 --> 00:52:36,520
And I was a Cowboys fan at the 
time. 

1074
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:37,640
Like that's really weird for 
like are. 

1075
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:39,040
You guys still on speaking 
terms? 

1076
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:41,560
Yeah, we, well, we are. 
You know what? 

1077
00:52:41,720 --> 00:52:44,360
Here's the word that he became a
Chiefs fan about 8:00. 

1078
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:46,840
Or three years because? 
He's a radio DJ and he moved to 

1079
00:52:46,840 --> 00:52:48,400
Kansas City, so he became a 
Chiefs fan. 

1080
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:52,800
But like, he got me into the 
Browns and he was like, watch 

1081
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,960
them tonight. 
And it was a Monday night game 

1082
00:52:55,000 --> 00:52:58,880
in 86 against the Dolphins and 
was Marino versus Bernie Kozar 

1083
00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:04,040
and the Browns like ripped their
clothing off and just destroyed 

1084
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,200
them like on in an island game 
back then on Monday Night 

1085
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,920
Football. 
And it was like, I was like, I'm

1086
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,320
all in like this team. 
Like if you've ever heard of 

1087
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,000
like Ernest Beiner or Kevin Mack
or Webster Slaughter, like these

1088
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,920
were my dudes. 
And Bernie Kozar, who I, who I 

1089
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:21,880
know a little bit at this point,
just like through, you know, 

1090
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:24,840
life, but like wonderful, 
wonderful guys. 

1091
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:27,000
And Marty Schottenheimer was the
coach, like one of the great 

1092
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:29,600
motivational speakers. 
So it was just everything that 

1093
00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:33,160
kind of fed me and like, they 
lost on the drive. 

1094
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,840
That was a minor fumble. 
Set that up right. 

1095
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,360
Well, no. 
The drive was where Elway, like 

1096
00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:40,960
the Browns should have won in 
Cleveland. 

1097
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:45,840
And then Elway goes 98 yards on 
like, you know, 11 or 12 plays 

1098
00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:48,320
in the last two minutes, and 
then they go to overtime. 

1099
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,640
Actually, people think that 
ended the game. 

1100
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:54,440
Then they go to overtime, but 
then the Broncos win the game. 

1101
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:56,080
But then the next year they go 
back. 

1102
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,520
The Browns go back to the AFC 
title game against Denver again 

1103
00:54:00,440 --> 00:54:03,440
and go to Denver and they're 
down 21 to three. 

1104
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,600
I and I and I watched the set a 
House of like with a mom and a 

1105
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:10,200
dad and a friend and another 
friend are all Broncos fans 

1106
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,640
nightmare like a mom screaming 
for the Broncos. 

1107
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,040
Like I'm like I'm going to go 
like like I'm literally going to

1108
00:54:16,040 --> 00:54:17,600
go Zodiac killer on this entire 
house. 

1109
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:18,480
But. 
I'm fine. 

1110
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,400
I'm keeping my I'm. 
Keeping a chill but like down 21

1111
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,560
to 3:00 and they tied it I think
like it was like 3131 and the 

1112
00:54:26,560 --> 00:54:29,840
Broncos scored and the Browns 
had to go drive to tie it up and

1113
00:54:29,840 --> 00:54:32,280
this was a crazy ass game. 
That's when Beiner fumble. 

1114
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:35,840
That's when Beiner fumble and it
literally broke my heart. 

1115
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,000
It like it broke my heart, like 
I called my dad on the phone on 

1116
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:41,600
a back then the phone was like, 
you know, it's like you got to 

1117
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,960
do the the spin number thing, 
like the. 

1118
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:46,240
Slow the sadly. 
Yeah, it's like, oh, it's like a

1119
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:47,600
a disaster. 
Like what? 

1120
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,360
Like what's my phone number? 
And like, there's no, you know, 

1121
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:52,600
it's like, and my dad, I was 
like, Dad, is it real? 

1122
00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:54,840
Like do you think it changed? 
And he's like, it's real. 

1123
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,960
Like it really happened. 
And like so then I was like, my 

1124
00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:00,200
move was like things. 
Went wrong. 

1125
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:02,640
So I'm even more in. 
I'm more in now. 

1126
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,080
I'm coming more in. 
So like, right, that was the 

1127
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:06,360
mistake. 
I should have at that point 

1128
00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:10,200
jumped and been like. 
So I'm looking at Chiefs look 

1129
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:13,560
pretty good. 
I'm looking this up right now. 

1130
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:17,000
And then two years later they go
back to the conference 

1131
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:18,240
championship. 
I didn't realize it. 

1132
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:20,520
So it's three times in four 
years and lost it in four years 

1133
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:21,600
again. 
They lost. 

1134
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:23,960
And so that that's the one that 
Browns fans would call the 

1135
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:25,720
blowout. 
It wasn't really a blowout, but 

1136
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:29,120
it was kind of like that one. 
Just Bernie Kozar actually had a

1137
00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:34,560
staph infection on his hand and 
had to have a weird like kind of

1138
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:37,440
a call it like a plastic, I 
don't know, some sort of 

1139
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:40,680
contraption on his hand, on his 
throwing hand to throw the ball 

1140
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:42,680
because he had a staph 
infection, which you know, that 

1141
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,520
waylays people's for for for 
weeks at this point. 

1142
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:50,360
So it was a a complete disaster.
And like that that one wasn't so

1143
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:52,480
close. 
It was like the third act like 

1144
00:55:52,480 --> 00:55:54,640
it's like, you know, we're kind 
of tying things up. 

1145
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,000
We get that this movie's over 
and the movie was over at that 

1146
00:55:57,000 --> 00:55:58,440
point. 
And then they moved. 

1147
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,280
Well, then they they were three 
and like back then it was like 

1148
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:02,920
16. 
It was like they were 3 and 13 

1149
00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:06,120
the next year. 
And then the Belichick came in 

1150
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,040
and really started to build a 
beautiful team. 

1151
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:12,080
And like I, that's when I like, 
I had this thing in college 

1152
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,600
where I like had to, I took a 
coaching class and I had to 

1153
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:17,480
write to coaches. 
And I wrote to Belichick and he 

1154
00:56:17,480 --> 00:56:19,960
wrote back and forth and like, 
we wrote back and forth. 

1155
00:56:19,960 --> 00:56:21,960
To each other. 
And that now I'm pretty 

1156
00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:23,800
convinced it could. 
Have been his secretary or. 

1157
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,600
Like another secretary. 
But we wrote back and forth. 

1158
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:31,240
But then the Browns went to the 
playoffs in 94 as the team that 

1159
00:56:31,240 --> 00:56:34,200
I believe outside the Steelers 
allowed the second fewest points

1160
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,080
in the league. 
And I always believed in 

1161
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,880
Belichick. 
I really did. 

1162
00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:42,440
And then they move, then they 
move to the Baltimore. 

1163
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,640
And if you go look at that 
Baltimore 2000 team. 

1164
00:56:45,160 --> 00:56:48,200
So first of all, Ozzie Newsome 
was the Browns general manager. 

1165
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:50,760
Like assist. 
There was no general manager, 

1166
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:52,520
but it was Belichick. 
But it was like Belichick and 

1167
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,080
Ozzie Newsome were running the 
Browns. 

1168
00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:56,840
And then they go. 
Then they fire Belichick and 

1169
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:59,560
Ozzie Newsome goes to Baltimore 
and becomes the greatest general

1170
00:56:59,560 --> 00:57:01,000
manager of all. 
Time in 15 years. 

1171
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:01,920
Yeah, right. 
Yeah, we know. 

1172
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,080
We know that whole story that 
there were like 82 people 

1173
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,360
attached to. 
That brown steam like. 

1174
00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:09,520
I mean, I, I, my plan after 
college was to like, I don't 

1175
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,200
have a car. 
Was going to ride a bicycle and 

1176
00:57:12,720 --> 00:57:14,280
I went to Miami of Ohio. 
I was like, I'm gonna ride a 

1177
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:18,080
bicycle and like drive like and 
become any, I'll do anything for

1178
00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:19,480
the Browns. 
I'll mow their grass. 

1179
00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,000
And like, then they moved like a
semester before I graduated, 

1180
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,840
they moved to Baltimore and it 
was like, what a disaster. 

1181
00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,400
At this point so. 
Brutal. 

1182
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,840
So you start doing podcasts at 
that point, like that's the next

1183
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:35,760
for all of us. 
When to make disappointment? 

1184
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:36,840
Lands. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

1185
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:43,320
You were talking about. 
It's like a for so many decades 

1186
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:44,880
that you should have, you should
have left by now. 

1187
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,960
But that's, that's the period 
where you're, you're trying to 

1188
00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:48,520
win them back and then you want 
them back. 

1189
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,720
So then you're, I mean, you're 
stuck for good at that point. 

1190
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,200
They came back. 
Like, I do want to be loyal. 

1191
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,920
And it's like, I could imagine 
rooting for like another team. 

1192
00:57:56,320 --> 00:58:01,000
Here's the thing, if I picked up
like the Green Bay Packers, they

1193
00:58:01,000 --> 00:58:02,640
lose in the Super Bowl to the 
Browns. 

1194
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:04,840
And then I'd be like, you are a 
shameful individual. 

1195
00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,200
So it's like, I got to just I'm 
going to ride it out and see 

1196
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,560
what happens. 
But it is a rough ride. 

1197
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:13,080
Like, I mean, we've all been 
down like dark roads and like 

1198
00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,520
this has just been on. 
Like it just flat out, it's not 

1199
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,080
even interesting. 
It's just unenjoyable. 

1200
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,440
Right, you could be bad, but you
got to be bad and fun. 

1201
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,440
Like that's what you're talking 
about. 

1202
00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,960
They're not bad and fun is 
always like I like I like that, 

1203
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:28,120
but like the Browns aren't bad 
and fun, they're just boring and

1204
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:30,880
unproductive. 
Yeah. 

1205
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:35,960
What how much has, you know, 
obviously you guys shifting from

1206
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,280
being under the the shield to 
now under underdog, way more 

1207
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,080
autonomy and independence, I 
assume. 

1208
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:44,480
Has that shifted, you know, how 
you guys approach things at all 

1209
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,160
or have you guys tried to 
maintain kind of the the vibe 

1210
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:50,320
you guys had before? 
Well, it's a great question. 

1211
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,600
It's funny cuz like that Woody 
Johnson article came out today 

1212
00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:55,880
on the Athletic, right? 
And like, yeah, one of the 

1213
00:58:55,880 --> 00:58:59,600
reasons I don't I'll say 
anything at this point, but like

1214
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:02,040
one of the reasons that we 
separated from the NFL was that 

1215
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:06,080
that that we annoyed Woody 
Johnson, yes, with something on 

1216
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,120
our show. 
And like when you when you annoy

1217
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,920
an owner and like you work for 
the NFL. 

1218
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:14,560
And by the way, like I love 99% 
of the people I work with the 

1219
00:59:14,560 --> 00:59:17,240
NFL and like, they gave me the 
chance of a lifetime. 

1220
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,760
And I, I think that it's just, 
there's an insular like you 

1221
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:23,600
can't say certain things. 
And I get that. 

1222
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,440
And I, we played ball with that 
for more than a decade, but. 

1223
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:30,920
Was Woody Johnson the shadowy 
league figure, or is that the 

1224
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,640
well? 
Well, certainly like. 

1225
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,600
Well. 
Yes, that's the definition. 

1226
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,720
Like shadowy, like, I mean he's 
like a he's like an omnipresent 

1227
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,880
nightmare up in the sky. 
But like they were like when you

1228
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:45,040
get in the crosshairs, like it 
was just like you guys stopped 

1229
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:47,760
talking and like and and 
everyone there gets that and 

1230
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,760
like you can't. 
I never was like, wow, I don't 

1231
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,960
get it and I'm going to 
complain. 

1232
00:59:51,960 --> 00:59:54,440
Like I really probably was like 
wouldn't complain. 

1233
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,080
Like I get it and like I love to
work here for the most part. 

1234
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:01,200
But like, I think our show, 
which had always been kind of 

1235
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,920
under the radar and we could say
what we wanted to. 

1236
01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:05,960
It could be like this. 
Like we could say what we want 

1237
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:08,520
and no one was kind of 
monitoring it. 

1238
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,840
And it became more monitored and
I think we got in the crosshairs

1239
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:16,200
a little bit more and like, it 
got a little suppressive and 

1240
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,560
like Dan. 
Is my brother like he's my 

1241
01:00:19,560 --> 01:00:22,160
brother, like I love him. 
He's like I I called him like my

1242
01:00:22,680 --> 01:00:24,880
favorite. 
He's like the best friend I'll 

1243
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:26,360
ever have in media and like it's
a tough. 

1244
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,000
We all know that like there's 
good people, bad people, all 

1245
01:00:29,000 --> 01:00:33,200
that stuff, right. 
But like when they didn't want 

1246
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:36,000
to continue with us the way that
we want to continue it, like it 

1247
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,040
was making a choice. 
And so I made a choice to go 

1248
01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:41,880
with him. 
I couldn't be more thrilled, 

1249
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:43,720
like to be with underdog, to be 
with it. 

1250
01:00:43,720 --> 01:00:46,360
And I'm not just saying that 
like it's, it's not even, it's 

1251
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,560
underdog, but it's just that 
like we're not, we're able, like

1252
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:51,800
I never even think about, we 
talk about now and I'd like, 

1253
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,200
we're talking about a sport. 
We're talking about 

1254
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,760
billionaires. 
Like, why do I need someone with

1255
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,200
handcuffs on me? 
Like, what am I, I'm supposed to

1256
01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,280
be like licking their butt? 
Like, no, I'm not gonna like I'm

1257
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:03,880
I like, I want to talk about it 
the way I want to. 

1258
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,680
And so does Dan. 
And like Dan is a creative fire.

1259
01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,080
He really is. 
And like in our own ways, we 

1260
01:01:10,080 --> 01:01:12,640
bring different things. 
But like, I couldn't be more 

1261
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,360
happy. 
Like I, I have thought about 

1262
01:01:14,360 --> 01:01:15,720
this. 
Like I'll say this is the last 

1263
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,320
common. 
Like it got stressful, you know,

1264
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,160
like when you're someone for 
10-11 years, like it just gets 

1265
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,720
kind of like, like in anything, 
it's just like, but like now 

1266
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,320
it's like so fun to sign on to 
do our show. 

1267
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:30,000
And like we have Connor Orr with
us, who I'm sure, you know, like

1268
01:01:30,200 --> 01:01:34,400
Connor is just an absolute joy. 
And like we picked, we, we, we 

1269
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,320
spent the summer picking who we 
wanted to and join us. 

1270
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,800
And I think it's like with any 
endeavor relationships, your 

1271
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,040
wife, your girlfriend, your 
friends, like your whatever. 

1272
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,800
It's like, who do you really 
want to spend time with? 

1273
01:01:47,800 --> 01:01:49,000
Like we got to do that this 
time. 

1274
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:52,880
So it feels great. 
Yeah, that's awesome. 

1275
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:56,480
Nice. 
Yeah, we've, I've done stuff 

1276
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:59,160
with Underdog for a long time 
and you know, the autonomy and 

1277
01:01:59,160 --> 01:02:01,520
the leash they give you to just,
hey, do what you do. 

1278
01:02:01,640 --> 01:02:04,480
And we're we're happy to be a 
part of it, makes it an awesome 

1279
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,760
partnership. 
How long have you guys been 

1280
01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,640
doing this though? 
Let me ask, let me flip it 

1281
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,000
around. 
I'd love to know how long you've

1282
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:11,600
been. 
Doing. 

1283
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:15,720
We've been doing. 
Doing this what like 2016 or 17 

1284
01:02:15,800 --> 01:02:16,440
is when we. 
Started. 

1285
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:19,280
Yeah, somewhere. 
Time in in that range, yeah. 

1286
01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:21,880
Yeah. 
Things don't last that long. 

1287
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,200
We all know like things come and
go in like 8 months. 

1288
01:02:24,200 --> 01:02:25,360
So like, that's pretty 
beautiful. 

1289
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:30,080
Well, the first thing Pat and I 
collaborated on even before this

1290
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,280
podcast was the Fantasyland 
where we interviewed you and you

1291
01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,240
know, Lakeisha and Wes and all 
for that, you know, that 

1292
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:38,120
episode. 
So that was actually the like 

1293
01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:41,360
the origin story to what this 
became was was I remember. 

1294
01:02:41,360 --> 01:02:43,760
The day I remember what room I 
was walking around doing that 

1295
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,120
with you guys actually on my 
phone. 

1296
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,240
Yep. 
That's awesome. 

1297
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:47,720
Yeah. 
Yeah, we. 

1298
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,360
We did an. 
Episode early on about high 

1299
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:55,600
stakes and we went out to Vegas 
and drafted A-Team together and 

1300
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,360
then we ended up doing a second 
episode about Co managing teams.

1301
01:02:59,880 --> 01:03:03,880
And then we kind of just kept 
that rolling and we wrote some 

1302
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:06,800
articles and stuff and then the 
next year we did a podcast about

1303
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:08,360
it. 
And that podcast marked In This 

1304
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:10,760
Overtime. 
That's pretty cool. 

1305
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:13,320
Well, that's the way that I 
think now. 

1306
01:03:13,320 --> 01:03:17,080
It's like we just create what we
want to. 

1307
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:20,560
There's no reason to be under 
the thumb of XY and Z. 

1308
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:23,160
Yeah. 
Yeah, I agree. 

1309
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:28,280
Who do you? 
Well, did you know Woody was a 

1310
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:29,560
big Madden player? 
Is that? 

1311
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:31,040
Is that why? 
Is that when you guys? 

1312
01:03:31,080 --> 01:03:32,560
Said that he's playing so much 
Madden. 

1313
01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,440
Am IA Madden player. 
No, Woody Johnson. 

1314
01:03:36,440 --> 01:03:37,640
He's he's playing so much 
Madden. 

1315
01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:39,960
Knows the well. 
No, he's taking Madden ratings 

1316
01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:40,720
like well. 
This is a. 

1317
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:42,920
This is a this. 
Guy is not. 

1318
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:45,360
This is not a serious person in 
terms. 

1319
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:46,880
Of the football world, I think I
get that. 

1320
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:50,720
I wish it that story would have 
been so much better for the 

1321
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,040
fantasy football community. 
If he's like I see where Jerry 

1322
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,520
Judy's ADP is in these. 
Graphs, he's going. 

1323
01:03:55,520 --> 01:03:58,880
Outside the top 10 rounds like 
I, I can't have this. 

1324
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,120
Guy. 
Right, we went Madden instead 

1325
01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:04,800
and it has very tangible, you 
know, tactile anchor to 

1326
01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:08,320
anything. 
Yep, he is I I only saw him once

1327
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:11,520
in person so I have no comment. 
He walked by me in an elevator, 

1328
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:14,200
but like, it was just like, this
is a rich person. 

1329
01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,120
You can feel the richness just 
coming off them. 

1330
01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:19,640
Like they don't, you know, 
Maidservants come to me like 

1331
01:04:19,640 --> 01:04:22,800
it's like, I don't, you know? 
So the the chat points out, do 

1332
01:04:22,800 --> 01:04:27,080
you guys remember referencing a 
report by a man named Crack 

1333
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:28,680
Rock? 
On a rock? 

1334
01:04:28,680 --> 01:04:29,320
Yeah, I do. 
I was. 

1335
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:32,960
Well, no, no, yes, I do. 
It's a couple years ago, I 

1336
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,160
think. 
Who was it? 

1337
01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,360
OK, it might have been Patrick 
Clabon, but like, I think it 

1338
01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:39,960
was, I think it was Patrick 
Clabon that like, that's right, 

1339
01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:45,040
Rack Rock had tweeted at him or 
got into his hemisphere and he 

1340
01:04:45,040 --> 01:04:48,360
mentioned it on a show. 
Because I think it was because 

1341
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,960
he bumped into Woody and had 
this, the skinny to use his 

1342
01:04:51,960 --> 01:04:54,600
terms on Aaron Rodgers going 
there. 

1343
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,480
You're right. 
I think he was essentially 

1344
01:04:57,920 --> 01:05:03,520
breaking news and it was like 
because his name, it was crack 

1345
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:04,160
rock we're. 
Not. 

1346
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:08,040
Quick to believe it, but like he
was at, I believe on location at

1347
01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,360
a yeah, some sort of resort 
where Woody was. 

1348
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:13,240
He was at a restaurant with his 
mom and saw Woody Johnson at 

1349
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,680
another table and approached 
him. 

1350
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:17,640
Yeah, with like rock with Salah,
like it was like that. 

1351
01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:20,680
I think it was that sort of 
power circle and and you know 

1352
01:05:20,680 --> 01:05:22,320
what, he was right like. 
He was. 

1353
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:24,400
He was. 
Right. 

1354
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,880
I mean crack, we've got to be 
listening more to crack rock, I 

1355
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,560
think in general, so. 
Just to fill you in one. 

1356
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:31,920
No, we don't. 
But. 2. 

1357
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:36,120
Crack Rock is part of the ship 
chasing orbit. 

1358
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:40,240
We draft a team with him 
annually on here on this stream,

1359
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:44,920
and we knew him as just this 
crazy eccentric fantasy football

1360
01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:49,160
player before he became an NFL 
insider and political reporter. 

1361
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,960
So it's been a real thrill to 
see you guys and the rest of the

1362
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:56,680
NFL world reference. 
I mean I would say referenced 

1363
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,760
him once but like, I don't know.
If he did, more like so. 

1364
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,720
You're saying his? 
You don't regularly source crack

1365
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,760
rock. 
No, I like, no, like he came and

1366
01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:07,320
went in my world, but that 
doesn't mean like that he's not 

1367
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:09,640
important. 
But like, so are you saying that

1368
01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:11,600
he's, is he, is he still an 
insider? 

1369
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,200
Is he still operating on that 
front? 

1370
01:06:13,280 --> 01:06:16,200
Yeah. 
He he was adamant that so he 

1371
01:06:16,200 --> 01:06:21,800
became kind of like a big deal 
this spring in Vikings, in 

1372
01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:25,160
Viking circles, because OK, the 
Vikings really wanted to get up 

1373
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,400
for Drake May And he's he sort 
the the kind of influences he 

1374
01:06:29,400 --> 01:06:32,400
claims is that he'll sometimes 
bump into Woody at lunch. 

1375
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,880
He knows the Wilf's so he's get 
he's going to get Wilfson's side

1376
01:06:35,880 --> 01:06:39,800
information and he, he he claims
to bump into craft in the 

1377
01:06:39,800 --> 01:06:42,400
Hamptons. 
So it's like it's kind of you, 

1378
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,600
you've got the craft connection 
and the Wilf's connection. 

1379
01:06:44,600 --> 01:06:48,080
Like this guy might be the the 
way we learn what's gonna happen

1380
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:48,880
here. 
So the spiders. 

1381
01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:50,600
Man, he's a real spider. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1382
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,600
He's just now. 
A socialite he's told us the 

1383
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:55,760
whole back story of like his 
high school days and his sisters

1384
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:57,200
yes, like he's. 
Got to be rich, right? 

1385
01:06:57,200 --> 01:06:58,600
He's a rich. 
And a very rich. 

1386
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:00,120
Well. 
And that's. 

1387
01:07:00,200 --> 01:07:02,160
That's a lot of weed. 
And he owns a dispensary or 

1388
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:03,480
owned a dispensary. 
He does he. 

1389
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,400
Contains multitudes. 
Mark He. 

1390
01:07:05,400 --> 01:07:07,120
Contains multitudes. 
He does OK. 

1391
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:10,920
He's well. 
I, I tend to believe like the if

1392
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:13,680
he's super rich and he's going 
to the Hamptons, some of it 

1393
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:17,200
starts to make sense to me, so 
I'm willing to listen. 

1394
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:21,400
That was a that was a win. 
He was he said he was very clear

1395
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:25,440
the the Vikings were going to 
get their quarterback and that 

1396
01:07:25,440 --> 01:07:27,200
the Patriots weren't going to 
move off of three. 

1397
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:28,880
You're like they're they're 
sitting there and taking May. 

1398
01:07:28,920 --> 01:07:30,480
So he. 
Yeah. 

1399
01:07:31,160 --> 01:07:34,080
He he, he does have his heat 
check moments, you know, he'll, 

1400
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,880
he'll pull up and shoot a three 
from the logo every once in. 

1401
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:40,000
A while. 
He's 0, but occasionally he'll 

1402
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,760
trade it, yeah. 
Well, I'm excited that you have 

1403
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:47,360
a connection, that you have an 
association with them that feels

1404
01:07:47,360 --> 01:07:50,080
powerful. 
You can tap them when needed 

1405
01:07:50,080 --> 01:07:51,960
for. 
From our perspective, it feels 

1406
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,480
less powerful, but we like that 
it gives off that vibe for. 

1407
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:56,440
Sure. 
Powerful for someone. 

1408
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:02,760
So yeah. 
Man, So what what, what's it 

1409
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:04,800
look like for you? 
Because I mean, this past 

1410
01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,280
offseason was when you guys were
kind of getting synced up with 

1411
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:09,760
underdog, finding your footing, 
figuring out your next play. 

1412
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,400
Now that you guys kind of have 
your your set up, what does the 

1413
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:14,000
the offseason look like for you 
guys? 

1414
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,840
Well, I mean, I think like you 
guys too. 

1415
01:08:16,840 --> 01:08:19,279
It's like we just we, our shows 
never stop. 

1416
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:22,720
Maybe in June they slow down a 
little bit, but the NF LS kind 

1417
01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,640
of cooked into this thing where 
it's like no other sport will be

1418
01:08:25,640 --> 01:08:29,439
allowed to exist in primary 
function beyond us. 

1419
01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:34,120
So like there's league events. 
I think one thing is because we 

1420
01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:37,040
just had a biorhythm of how we 
worked and how we did our shows.

1421
01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:40,200
Like there's the season, there's
the playoffs, there's the Super 

1422
01:08:40,200 --> 01:08:41,520
Bowl and then there's the 
offseason. 

1423
01:08:41,520 --> 01:08:42,880
It's like none of that will 
change. 

1424
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:47,240
We won't do less. 
I think it's more about like how

1425
01:08:47,240 --> 01:08:49,600
do we do things that are new? 
I think that's probably what 

1426
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:51,560
we're focused on. 
Like like we've we had, you 

1427
01:08:51,560 --> 01:08:56,160
know, we do segments where we're
more like feelings, emotion, 

1428
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,279
loving sports, like we grew up 
listening to WFAN. 

1429
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:01,880
So it's like, how do we make you
feel something if you're a new 

1430
01:09:01,880 --> 01:09:06,160
football fan versus I have you. 
I love PFFI love those guys. 

1431
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:07,880
It's like if you go to it's not 
analytics. 

1432
01:09:07,880 --> 01:09:09,319
It's not that. 
It's like we're more just like, 

1433
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:12,120
let's make it fun. 
And so it's like, how do we do 

1434
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:14,880
stuff that makes us not bored? 
We've been doing it for a long 

1435
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,040
time. 
And so it's like new segments, 

1436
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,160
new ideas. 
And like Dan is a genius at 

1437
01:09:19,160 --> 01:09:21,880
that. 
Like once in a while I'll hit 

1438
01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:26,560
like a like a double with an 
idea, but like, you know, I'm 

1439
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,960
mostly more like, tell me what 
to do and I'll do it. 

1440
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:32,840
I'll do it. 
But but I think like what does 

1441
01:09:32,840 --> 01:09:34,120
it look like? 
We just keep going. 

1442
01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:36,560
Like I think we've always had a 
feeling like you just keep 

1443
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:40,200
going, like produce 300. 
Well, I don't know the number 

1444
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,240
like 203 hundred shows a year. 
And just like there's no slowing

1445
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,479
down. 
And then at some point they're 

1446
01:09:45,479 --> 01:09:48,439
going to take us and throw us 
out of a moving car. 

1447
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,560
And then that would be the big, 
that would be the pivot point. 

1448
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,760
That's maybe gonna roll. 
That's the same thing that 

1449
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:57,240
happened with us, like strip 
chasing. 

1450
01:09:57,240 --> 01:10:01,840
We used to like power down for a
few months in the offseason and 

1451
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:04,000
then it would be like, do you 
guys want to take like a month 

1452
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,320
off and then be like, you want 
to take two weeks off and out? 

1453
01:10:06,320 --> 01:10:08,760
You're like, all right, we just.
You guys, you guys. 

1454
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:09,880
Do you go? 
Not? 

1455
01:10:09,880 --> 01:10:11,560
Yeah. 
Do you churn? 

1456
01:10:12,160 --> 01:10:15,120
We'll take like occasionally 
we'll take a week off. 

1457
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,720
We're like all travelling or 
something one week, but it's not

1458
01:10:18,720 --> 01:10:21,680
planned, you know, It's kind of 
just like how it falls, you 

1459
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:23,040
know, We can't do that next 
week. 

1460
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,080
Because it's the same thing. 
Like, you know, with fantasy. 

1461
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:29,360
Now let's go, lad. 
There we are. 

1462
01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,720
Yeah, with fan, I mean, you know
how it goes too. 

1463
01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:34,680
It's like and and Pat and 
Gretsch do a lot of, you know, 

1464
01:10:34,680 --> 01:10:37,600
getting the prospect stuff. 
So then, you know, the combine 

1465
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,240
and then, you know, Underdogs 
gonna have last year, Underdog 

1466
01:10:40,240 --> 01:10:42,440
dropped its first tournament 
before the Super Bowl had even 

1467
01:10:42,440 --> 01:10:44,800
happened. 
So people are already drafting 

1468
01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:47,440
by the end of January. 
And so it's just like it never 

1469
01:10:47,440 --> 01:10:50,840
stops. 
Well, I think also like it makes

1470
01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:54,760
sense because it's like the free
agency cycle or rumors or 

1471
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:56,720
whispers. 
Like if you're into fantasy. 

1472
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,800
And I think fantasy to me is 
like I'm with my high school 

1473
01:10:59,800 --> 01:11:02,080
friends and we're going to 
compete against each other and 

1474
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:05,720
have a thread that's very, I'm 
not going to show the thread to 

1475
01:11:05,720 --> 01:11:07,160
everyone in my life, but will 
have a thread. 

1476
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:11,200
But like you're talking non-stop
and it's like it's competition. 

1477
01:11:11,200 --> 01:11:14,680
And so like little free agency, 
whispers and moves, then real 

1478
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,320
free agency, then the draft. 
It's like everything starts over

1479
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,520
and like football's found a 
really good, I think, thematic 

1480
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,320
way to own your entire calendar 
year. 

1481
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:24,840
They have it. 
Really, they really have. 

1482
01:11:24,840 --> 01:11:29,760
And like, it's yeah, it it's by,
it's by design of how it works, 

1483
01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:32,440
but it's also by their greed. 
And I'm OK with that. 

1484
01:11:32,440 --> 01:11:35,320
Like I, I. 
Mostly well, the season itself 

1485
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:36,560
was just getting longer and 
longer. 

1486
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:39,280
We're gonna be at well, right 
team games and we're gonna like,

1487
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:41,680
are they gonna put 2 by? 
That's where I feel like seven 

1488
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:43,800
months. 
That feels like they need to get

1489
01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:47,080
that, that part of it under 
control cuz it's I think they're

1490
01:11:47,080 --> 01:11:48,880
good. 
We're good with the 17 games. 

1491
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:50,560
They don't need the 18th. 
I know they're probably gonna. 

1492
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:51,880
Have don't. 
You're you are. 

1493
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:54,720
You are a fish swimming upstream
right now. 

1494
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:56,520
I'm I'm. 
With you, I'm swimming with you.

1495
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,800
But we are gonna get naked 
because like, it's gonna go 

1496
01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:01,800
multiple games. 
Like, I think we're gonna have 

1497
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,840
some sort of like NFL special on
like Easter Sunday. 

1498
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:07,160
Like they're gonna find a way to
completely. 

1499
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:10,160
Take we're the fish swimming on 
stream, flopping around, and 

1500
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:11,480
they're the. 
Bear, That's just. 

1501
01:12:11,520 --> 01:12:12,320
Right. 
They're the bear. 

1502
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:13,760
They are the bear and. 
Yes, they are the. 

1503
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:16,920
Thing, the thing that I really 
feel like a fish swimming stream

1504
01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:21,280
about is just hey, man, Sunday. 
That's football, football. 

1505
01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:23,440
Sunday, right? 
Monday, fine. 

1506
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:27,080
Thursday, here we are. 
But can we leave it there? 

1507
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:28,320
Can we leave it there? 
No. 

1508
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,320
Do we have to go to to Fridays? 
Do we have to go? 

1509
01:12:31,480 --> 01:12:32,840
How about Wednesdays? 
They've always done The 

1510
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:34,560
Saturdays. 
Well, aren't, aren't Sundays the

1511
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:37,560
worst Sundays are the like, is, 
is the weakest slate now? 

1512
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:41,200
And like, I think like for the 
first time ever, and this is not

1513
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:43,680
new information, but like the 
Chiefs play on every single day 

1514
01:12:43,680 --> 01:12:47,640
except Tuesday. 
What football team has ever done

1515
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:48,680
that before? 
What has happened? 

1516
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:50,320
This is not this is not the New 
York Mets. 

1517
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:52,680
Like what are we doing here? 
Like we play on every single day

1518
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:56,200
but Tuesday this season, like 
you, if we like the one thing 

1519
01:12:56,200 --> 01:12:59,040
I've ever learned about the NFL 
is like once you start doing 

1520
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:03,280
this, you're never doing this. 
Like you are going to add and 

1521
01:13:03,280 --> 01:13:04,920
add and add. 
And like if you don't like 2 

1522
01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,240
Monday night games, I hope you 
don't have a problem with four 

1523
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:09,320
or whatever it. 
Is they do that like it's. 

1524
01:13:09,400 --> 01:13:12,560
Like I just feel like it's. 
Gonna become more than two I To 

1525
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:16,480
me, it's like the little the 
little cuz part of the reason I 

1526
01:13:16,480 --> 01:13:20,480
love the NFL so much is like the
the games are all on at once. 

1527
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:23,400
Like you, just you. 
It was I'm going to sit down and

1528
01:13:23,480 --> 01:13:27,280
just have my favorite sport and 
hit me in the face for seven 

1529
01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:28,560
hours. 
Like, well, it's for the working

1530
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,200
man. 
The working man is like, I'm at 

1531
01:13:30,200 --> 01:13:32,800
a factory month. 
Not not myself, but like do I'm 

1532
01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:35,880
in a factory Monday through 
Friday and then my games are on 

1533
01:13:35,880 --> 01:13:37,680
on Sunday and I go drink my 
beers. 

1534
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,320
And now it's like now they're on
every night of the week and it's

1535
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,720
like I need 17 streaming 
services. 

1536
01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:44,800
Like they'll, you know, we'll 
have a game on the Hallmark 

1537
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:48,000
Channel soon enough. 
How do we, where does it stop? 

1538
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,960
And it will never, it will not 
slow down until I think, until 

1539
01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,640
we become, if another country 
attacks our country, it will 

1540
01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:57,040
slow down. 
Largely at that point. 

1541
01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:01,920
That seems safe it. 
Will take. 

1542
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:05,120
My brain went to like this 
dystopian future where it's like

1543
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,160
a 30 week season but 20 bye 
weeks and it's just non-stop 

1544
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,320
rolling football year round. 
There's 16 island games a week 

1545
01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:15,920
and. 
The four of us, the four of us 

1546
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:18,080
must comment on everything that 
happened. 

1547
01:14:18,080 --> 01:14:21,760
And that's that's. 
How it will work exactly? 

1548
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:27,320
Man, I didn't see that play, but
it seemed like her was a Palmer.

1549
01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:29,040
A little. 
More. 

1550
01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:32,240
That's a Palmer tuddy. 
I like how our best ball man 

1551
01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:33,680
team has been inches away. 
Palmer. 

1552
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:37,640
Palmer's been getting usage for 
sure. 

1553
01:14:37,640 --> 01:14:41,200
It's been looking OK, but yeah, 
intercepted. 

1554
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:44,880
I'm worried about the Chargers, 
like without JK Dobbins they 

1555
01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:47,640
seem to have lost their. 
Yep, their mojo. 

1556
01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:49,120
Yeah, they have. 
Yeah. 

1557
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,360
I don't know how we played it. 
We took the Gus unders, Gus 

1558
01:14:52,360 --> 01:14:53,360
lowers. 
Like I knew what they were 

1559
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:54,840
supposed to be, but they're not 
it, right? 

1560
01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,280
And I also Herbert I think is 
just getting shot up hardcore 

1561
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,720
before the game pain wise. 
Yeah. 

1562
01:15:02,760 --> 01:15:06,520
That's just not a good throw. 
That's got to be somewhere other

1563
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:08,520
than there. 
I mean, that's just, it's got to

1564
01:15:08,520 --> 01:15:12,320
be high and over the top or not 
that late. 

1565
01:15:12,320 --> 01:15:14,720
That's not him. 
Like that's like that tells me 

1566
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:18,120
like and I'm not some sort of 
doctor, like I play one on a 

1567
01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:23,400
podcast, but like that's lower 
body issues creating. 

1568
01:15:26,280 --> 01:15:29,080
That was not a good throw. 
Yeah. 

1569
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:31,120
They've had no running game 
since Dobbins has went out. 

1570
01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:32,600
He's had to carry the entire 
team. 

1571
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,720
And yeah, I mean, that doesn't 
work in 2024 NFL where, you 

1572
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,840
know, the the secondaries are 
all dropping back and the good 

1573
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:41,800
offenses are running the ball 
against these light boxes and 

1574
01:15:41,800 --> 01:15:43,280
lighter defenders and 
everything. 

1575
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:46,360
I mean, this is it's tough to do
to just stand back there and 

1576
01:15:46,360 --> 01:15:48,560
throw every single snap and you 
can't run them and. 

1577
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,000
I feel like Denver's defense, 
like I think they're not an 

1578
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:53,680
exciting team to the eye in 
terms of the overall thing, but 

1579
01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,840
like they could steal a playoff 
game from someone with like a 

1580
01:15:56,880 --> 01:15:59,400
day where things just go right 
for their defense. 

1581
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:01,240
It wouldn't. 
Have a. 

1582
01:16:01,440 --> 01:16:02,920
Great. 
It wouldn't be a great narrative

1583
01:16:02,920 --> 01:16:06,440
for all of us, but like, they 
are, They're a weird team. 

1584
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,040
They are. 
What's funny because we're doing

1585
01:16:09,760 --> 01:16:11,800
like all these playoff 
basketball drafts right now and 

1586
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,920
in them you kind of have to 
like, think you know who the 

1587
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:18,600
seeds are. 
And then every week it changes 

1588
01:16:18,760 --> 01:16:21,120
like who the actual like the way
the seeds are going to break 

1589
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,520
down. 
And it is just been a reminder 

1590
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,080
of like how crazy the. 
Actual playoffs are gonna be. 

1591
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:28,920
We keep thinking we know exactly
what's gonna happen to the 

1592
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:31,400
playoffs, but a team like Denver
winning a a couple playoff games

1593
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:34,640
wouldn't really be that strange.
No, it's, it feels less volatile

1594
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,280
than other years, like right 
where we are right now in terms 

1595
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:41,960
of like, it's a lot set. 
But in terms of if, like, I just

1596
01:16:41,960 --> 01:16:45,200
always feel like if Pittsburgh 
got a couple home playoff games,

1597
01:16:45,200 --> 01:16:49,040
they could beat anyone. 
Maybe not with TJ Watt, he's 

1598
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:50,880
going to play, but like with 
George Pickens not in there. 

1599
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:52,120
That's not true. 
But like, yeah, that's a big 

1600
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:52,840
deal. 
Right. 

1601
01:16:52,840 --> 01:16:56,560
Denver, though, is is weird. 
Like they might, they might 

1602
01:16:56,560 --> 01:16:58,720
annoy many people because I 
think they're not, they're just 

1603
01:16:58,720 --> 01:17:00,400
not on our mind. 
I feel like they're just the 

1604
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:03,800
team I keep forgetting is still 
hanging around big time with 

1605
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:07,280
like a legit record. 
What steed are they going to 

1606
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,440
get? 
Pat, You've been digging into 

1607
01:17:08,440 --> 01:17:10,080
all these scenarios. 
Are they're going to be on the 

1608
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,880
road, they'll be a wild card, or
are they going to play someone 

1609
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,160
pretty tough? 
Are they going to play like 

1610
01:17:15,160 --> 01:17:18,000
Pillow we have? 
Well, this Ravens game is like 

1611
01:17:18,600 --> 01:17:22,840
if they swept the Raven, if they
beat the Ravens on Saturday and 

1612
01:17:22,840 --> 01:17:24,200
they then. 
We're talking about the three. 

1613
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:27,080
That's insane, yeah. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1614
01:17:28,240 --> 01:17:30,720
What's? 
Your What's your dream Super 

1615
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:36,160
Bowl match up, mark? 
You know what, like it. 

1616
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,680
I of course I'm not unusual. 
This is so cliche, but I wanted 

1617
01:17:39,680 --> 01:17:42,640
to be Bill's Lyons. 
But then I'm like the loser of 

1618
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:46,240
that is like, ready to like, 
literally, yeah, they're going 

1619
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,160
to like jump. 
They want to jump off a building

1620
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:49,560
because. 
It's this is a Browns fan 

1621
01:17:49,560 --> 01:17:52,240
talking. 
Yeah, they're like the psyche of

1622
01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:54,160
the loser already. 
Yeah, they're in that world. 

1623
01:17:54,160 --> 01:17:57,240
So it's like part of me would be
like lions beat the Chiefs. 

1624
01:17:57,240 --> 01:18:00,040
We're like we all feel like, and
then the Chiefs are not the 

1625
01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:03,240
Patriots or they're not Darth 
Vader, but it's like we're tired

1626
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:04,960
of the Chiefs and like the lions
go do it. 

1627
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,520
But I'm, I'm pretty concerned 
about the lions right now. 

1628
01:18:07,520 --> 01:18:12,960
And I think the, for me, growing
up in the prime of my early 

1629
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,960
fandom, watching the Bills lose 
4 Super Bowls under Marv Levy, 

1630
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:20,240
who is the sweetest, like most 
incredible man, like just a 

1631
01:18:20,240 --> 01:18:23,200
wonderful guy. 
Like I'd love to see the Bills 

1632
01:18:23,200 --> 01:18:26,280
just beat anyone like I want. 
I kind of think we just need it.

1633
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:31,080
Like, let's flush it out before 
the nation takes a massive dive 

1634
01:18:31,080 --> 01:18:32,880
bomb and we just get that done. 
You know. 

1635
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:38,160
We just get that now. 
I think if it's Bill's Lions, I 

1636
01:18:38,160 --> 01:18:41,960
think I'm running for the Lions 
because that what the Lions are 

1637
01:18:41,960 --> 01:18:43,760
doing, especially if they get 
there with all the injuries 

1638
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,480
they've had, it just feels like 
they're kind of capturing 

1639
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:50,160
lightning in a bottle where the 
Bills have Josh and I would love

1640
01:18:50,160 --> 01:18:54,360
to see Josh win a Super Bowl, be
I'd be psyched to see him win 

1641
01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,720
one this year. 
But if it's if it's Bills versus

1642
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,640
Lions, I think I'm I'm like, 
you'll get back here Bills, 

1643
01:18:59,920 --> 01:19:02,040
you'll win one they've. 
Got a better chance to. 

1644
01:19:02,280 --> 01:19:05,520
Yeah, right. 
I get that, I don't. 

1645
01:19:05,560 --> 01:19:09,000
Know they've been really close. 
We know way more insufferable 

1646
01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,960
Bills fans than we do 
insufferable Lions fans, so that

1647
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:12,960
you know. 
Probably you do. 

1648
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:15,440
Well, that would affect your 
opinion for sure, yeah. 

1649
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:17,480
They're not exactly that. 
It's not. 

1650
01:19:17,640 --> 01:19:20,320
Lions fans, I was thinking about
like, I mean, the Tigers haven't

1651
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:22,440
been good in a long time. 
The Pistons, they won a 

1652
01:19:22,480 --> 01:19:24,880
championship like 20 years ago, 
but they haven't been good for a

1653
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:26,880
long time. 
Tough city. 

1654
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,560
But then the But then Buffalo 
doesn't have any other teams, so

1655
01:19:30,560 --> 01:19:33,600
that's why they're all just. 
There'd be no Bills, there'd be 

1656
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,440
no Buffalo Bills if we started 
the league today with all our, 

1657
01:19:36,440 --> 01:19:40,440
like, concerns about, you know. 
I guess they're all big Sabres 

1658
01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:41,960
fans. 
They're all hockey people, 

1659
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,240
probably. 
Yeah, the bills would not be a 

1660
01:19:45,440 --> 01:19:48,160
like both of them are so great. 
I my thing is more like there's 

1661
01:19:48,160 --> 01:19:50,840
such great stories, both of them
and it's like I can't I almost 

1662
01:19:50,840 --> 01:19:52,560
can't handle them playing each 
other. 

1663
01:19:52,840 --> 01:19:57,080
I and the lead up to it like 
it's too much like give me a 

1664
01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,120
villain. 
I want to. 

1665
01:19:58,120 --> 01:20:00,080
I want like a villain and a good
guy. 

1666
01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:03,360
I don't want 2 great good guys 
going against each other. 

1667
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,480
It's like we don't like we're 
we've that feels. 

1668
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:08,560
Are the Chiefs the best villain 
at this point? 

1669
01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,680
That I don't think there is. 
I don't think they are. 

1670
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:11,880
Like they're not. 
Villainous. 

1671
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:13,280
They're not villainous. 
They're, we're just, they're a 

1672
01:20:13,280 --> 01:20:14,120
little tedious. 
We're. 

1673
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:15,720
Sick of it? 
We're tired of it. 

1674
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,360
We're a little tired of it. 
Like they're not. 

1675
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,720
Nothing about them to me 
personally speaks like, wow, I 

1676
01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,640
can't get, I can't wait. 
No, I agree. 

1677
01:20:22,680 --> 01:20:24,520
I'm assassinated. 
They don't have the Brady, 

1678
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,280
Belichick. 
They don't. 

1679
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:26,920
They don't, right? 
And. 

1680
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:29,400
We're not that we're we're we're
not. 

1681
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:32,080
See them? 
Lose 1 you can you guys, we have

1682
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:34,920
a real interesting thing here 
that there was the kickoff. 

1683
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,400
They tried to do the fair catch.
You guys, they talked about the 

1684
01:20:37,400 --> 01:20:39,600
fair catch spot kick for years, 
right? 

1685
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,040
And there was a a kick catch 
interference penalty. 

1686
01:20:44,600 --> 01:20:47,200
I believe we're about to get a a
spot kick. 

1687
01:20:47,200 --> 01:20:48,840
Here. 
Oh, with no time left. 

1688
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,280
Time down. 
I'm not sure what's happening 

1689
01:20:52,280 --> 01:20:54,000
here, but this might be a really
unique plan. 

1690
01:20:54,000 --> 01:20:56,200
I'm kind of into it. 
Yeah, this is. 

1691
01:20:57,440 --> 01:21:00,840
Cuz if so the rules always been 
if they fair catch at the end of

1692
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:04,560
the half, even if there's no 
time left, you get like a a spot

1693
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:07,800
kick I believe like an untimed 
down or something they always 

1694
01:21:07,800 --> 01:21:09,800
talk about on the broadcast. 
I've never seen it happen. 

1695
01:21:10,320 --> 01:21:12,480
I think they were trying to fair
catch, but there was kick catch 

1696
01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:14,720
interference. 
Well, this is sexy. 

1697
01:21:14,720 --> 01:21:19,120
This is cool. 
Yeah, it's. 

1698
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:20,760
Half the stadium are not. 
Rude. 

1699
01:21:20,760 --> 01:21:22,240
Nice for the act to stay over 
here. 

1700
01:21:23,200 --> 01:21:27,920
Take her the kicker. 
They they were just showing the 

1701
01:21:27,920 --> 01:21:29,920
people that run on the field 
were not like a bunch of 

1702
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:32,840
lineman. 
I I think they still have 11 

1703
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,040
dudes stand on the field. 
But like Hassan Haskins was out 

1704
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:35,840
there. 
He's not a part. 

1705
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:39,160
Yeah, look, it's a kick off, but
I think it's for three points. 

1706
01:21:39,160 --> 01:21:40,440
I think they're. 
They're a kick off. 

1707
01:21:40,440 --> 01:21:43,560
What? 
I don't yeah, 'cause they just, 

1708
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,800
they just received a punt. 
This is a this is a three-point 

1709
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:51,680
kick off, kick off. 
Look at it says in the bottom 57

1710
01:21:51,680 --> 01:21:53,560
yard field goal attempt. 
You're right, this. 

1711
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,040
Is. 
I've never seen this. 

1712
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,080
Someone's saying it happened in 
Arizona before. 

1713
01:21:57,080 --> 01:21:58,960
I've never seen it. 
This. 

1714
01:21:58,960 --> 01:21:59,840
Year in Arizona. 
Crazy. 

1715
01:21:59,880 --> 01:22:02,600
Oh my God, this is. 
So there's no like he doesn't 

1716
01:22:02,600 --> 01:22:03,960
have to worry about anyone 
blocking or anything. 

1717
01:22:03,960 --> 01:22:06,960
No, Right. 
It's like a weird quirky rule 

1718
01:22:06,960 --> 01:22:09,960
people have talked about for 
years on like social media and 

1719
01:22:09,960 --> 01:22:12,520
stuff. 
This is just a kickoff for three

1720
01:22:12,520 --> 01:22:14,600
points. 
What a cool and really. 

1721
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:16,240
Made it. 
Wow, wow. 

1722
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,680
What was that? 
What a moment in time. 

1723
01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,240
Yeah. 
That was incredible. 

1724
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,640
You see something new on the 
ship cast. 

1725
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:28,160
Right. 
Yeah. 

1726
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,240
Wow, look at that that. 
Was a good night. 

1727
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:35,720
Nose drama 70. 
It doesn't have quite the same 

1728
01:22:35,720 --> 01:22:37,840
ring to it. 
Dicker, the spot kicker. 

1729
01:22:39,440 --> 01:22:41,920
You're right, you're right. 
We got to workshop that. 

1730
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,920
Well, Mark, you are more than 
welcome to hang out with us if 

1731
01:22:47,920 --> 01:22:49,880
you got to go. 
We normally fire up the pick em 

1732
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:52,880
lobby here, build, build out 
some sweats for the second-half.

1733
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,320
But I also want to be respectful
of your time here. 

1734
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,760
Well, I probably should go just 
cause I've got our other show 

1735
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,480
after this, but I would love to 
come. 

1736
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:02,840
Well, there's not that many more
of these, but like, I don't know

1737
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:06,440
when, when you'd gather, but I 
would love to come chat with you

1738
01:23:06,440 --> 01:23:09,360
again anytime. 
We're all together, we're teams.

1739
01:23:10,240 --> 01:23:13,240
Yeah. 
Maybe I want to leave you with 

1740
01:23:13,240 --> 01:23:18,000
the stat that you you brought 
the the unique element here. 

1741
01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:20,440
The last time anybody made a 
fair catch field goal was in 

1742
01:23:20,440 --> 01:23:26,480
1976 in the NFL. 
Unlike you, I was alive then so.

1743
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:31,560
Arc let the people know, 
obviously. 

1744
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,920
Heed the call. 
Podcast, app of choice, YouTube.

1745
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:36,600
Anything else people should know
about? 

1746
01:23:37,200 --> 01:23:39,800
I mean, I guess I'm on Twitter 
at my name Mark Sessler, but 

1747
01:23:39,800 --> 01:23:44,000
like I I don't like spend a ton 
of time on that. 

1748
01:23:44,000 --> 01:23:46,560
Like I really just say heat 
follow our show. 

1749
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:50,360
We've got a Patreon attached to 
heat the call that's got a lot 

1750
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:53,520
of non football, like 
interesting, fun stuff on there.

1751
01:23:53,600 --> 01:23:55,560
We last night we went with 
Conor. 

1752
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:59,400
We watched a Hallmark Christmas 
movie as a like a live broadcast

1753
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,600
and you could tell what that 
probably was like. 

1754
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,080
Like that's the kind of stuff 
we're trying to do. 

1755
01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,440
And like, I think we should 
cross has again, where we have 

1756
01:24:06,440 --> 01:24:08,800
you guys come and join us too. 
And we can that'd be fun. 

1757
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:11,880
Yeah, we'd love to, especially 
heading into the offseason. 

1758
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,960
So I mean, this was a joy and I 
don't know, we just want to make

1759
01:24:15,960 --> 01:24:17,480
it fun. 
Like that's all we really care 

1760
01:24:17,480 --> 01:24:19,080
about. 
Like we're hat we're we feel. 

1761
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:20,560
I think it's like, I'll say one 
last thing. 

1762
01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:24,040
Like we didn't have a job for 
like 18 weeks covering football.

1763
01:24:24,040 --> 01:24:27,080
And I was like, all my cynicism 
about the whole thing, it kind 

1764
01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:28,560
of melted away. 
I was like, oh, I kind of like 

1765
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:29,960
doing that. 
Like me. 

1766
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:31,400
Yeah. 
I do remember what it was like 

1767
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:33,760
to work for, like, a lower level
IBM. 

1768
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,760
Like, that wasn't fun. 
So like, let's we'll keep doing 

1769
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,960
it. 
We'll join forces again. 

1770
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,240
And there we go. 
Awesome. 

1771
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:43,920
All right, Mark Sessler, heed 
the call. 

1772
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:45,560
Thank you again so much for 
joining us. 

1773
01:24:45,560 --> 01:24:49,000
And we will be sure to sync up 
here in in the near future. 

1774
01:24:49,000 --> 01:24:51,800
Enjoy the holidays and the the 
rest of the playoffs. 

1775
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:53,320
You too. 
Fairly well, guys. 

1776
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:54,640
Bye. 
See you, Mark. 

1777
01:24:55,840 --> 01:25:02,880
All right, guys, let's see here.
Let me get us into the pick em 

1778
01:25:02,880 --> 01:25:06,080
lobby. 
Roger Sherman, who I think was 

1779
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:08,720
with the Ringer for a while, 
Yeah, he's been in a lot of 

1780
01:25:08,720 --> 01:25:11,640
places. 
He he's the guy that he just 

1781
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:13,720
tweeted out at all capsule 
waiting for this all my life. 

1782
01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:17,200
He he quote tweeted himself from
like 2019 and he has all these 

1783
01:25:17,200 --> 01:25:19,120
other ones from like, I'll be 
back to, you know, all the way 

1784
01:25:19,120 --> 01:25:21,480
back to 2017. 
And it's like all caps Bill 

1785
01:25:21,480 --> 01:25:23,680
Belichick, this is your moment. 
Do the fair catch kick. 

1786
01:25:23,680 --> 01:25:27,120
Like he's been rooting for it 
for so, so long. 

1787
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:30,400
There's some people that have 
tracked this and have always 

1788
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,920
wanted this moment. 
It's it's very a quirk of NFL 

1789
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,280
lore just happened. 
I'm very exhilarated. 

1790
01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,880
Real quick before we hop in the 
pick em lobby, I'm very excited 

1791
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,560
about one of these that we 
posted in the discord. 

1792
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,960
It's Marvin Mims higher than 2 
1/2 receptions. 

1793
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:50,320
We kept that the same. 
He's at two lad we slid to 89 

1794
01:25:50,320 --> 01:25:54,240
1/2, he's at 57 and then 
estimate we slid to 49 1/2. 

1795
01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:57,440
This was like A50 to pay almost 
1400. 

1796
01:25:57,800 --> 01:26:00,680
That feels extremely live right 
now. 

1797
01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:03,920
So I'm excited about that. 
And then the core we just have 

1798
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:06,120
to we're on good pace. 
Obviously lad needs three more 

1799
01:26:06,120 --> 01:26:07,480
yards. 
Mims needs one more catch and 

1800
01:26:07,480 --> 01:26:10,680
then we just need Gus to to stay
chilling so. 

1801
01:26:10,680 --> 01:26:12,960
I mean, Gus is at 8 carries for 
18 yards. 

1802
01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:15,920
I know that looks scary, but 
he's going effective and they're

1803
01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:19,040
trailing. 
I feel like that's we're not 

1804
01:26:19,040 --> 01:26:22,520
halfway to losing that. 
I feel like we're 2/3 likely to 

1805
01:26:22,520 --> 01:26:25,920
hit that personally. 
Yeah, I think the scariest thing

1806
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:28,280
would just be like what happened
on that first drive where he 

1807
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,440
catches a screen pass that goes 
like way more than it should. 

1808
01:26:31,840 --> 01:26:35,120
Sure. 
Let's see though, any kind of 

1809
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,960
other macro game flow angles 
before we like drill down? 

1810
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:43,880
I definitely like last week or 
previous week we did a touchdown

1811
01:26:43,880 --> 01:26:46,200
1, you know, something with that
was kind of fun. 

1812
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:48,800
Yeah, yeah, yeah, No, I like the
way we've always played these as

1813
01:26:48,800 --> 01:26:50,240
far as the macro game flow 
stuff. 

1814
01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,120
I I do really like the Chargers 
to open it up and pass a ton. 

1815
01:26:53,440 --> 01:26:57,440
Like Herbert, his passing yards 
are only another 130. 

1816
01:26:57,440 --> 01:26:59,160
He's already at 140. 
I like that. 

1817
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:01,320
And it's 270. 
Like he's going to throw for 

1818
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:02,920
more than 130 in the 
second-half. 

1819
01:27:02,960 --> 01:27:04,880
In my opinion that's they're 
going to go out. 

1820
01:27:05,400 --> 01:27:08,720
What if, what if we play that 
with a LAD TD, since we don't 

1821
01:27:08,720 --> 01:27:12,040
have any TD stuff with LAD, all 
of our very short yards. 

1822
01:27:12,160 --> 01:27:13,080
Yep, Yeah, it's. 
Very fun. 

1823
01:27:13,840 --> 01:27:16,320
And then we just need to find a 
Denver angle. 

1824
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,000
What's estimate at? 
We could do it. 

1825
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:21,760
We could double down. 
We don't have. 

1826
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,120
Them did they not? 
Are they not giving us estimate 

1827
01:27:24,160 --> 01:27:26,600
right now? 
OK, there he is. 

1828
01:27:26,600 --> 01:27:28,720
OK, wasn't showing in my 
Screener there. 

1829
01:27:29,440 --> 01:27:31,400
So they got him at 21 with the 
lead? 

1830
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,640
Yep, they're Pagan in for six 
more rush attempts. 

1831
01:27:37,160 --> 01:27:39,120
They haven't met. 
No receptions. 

1832
01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,600
I like all those. 
The rush plus receiving is only 

1833
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,320
two extra yards than the 
rushing, so you could just say 

1834
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:49,040
like, Oh yeah, I mean you you 
could play the receptions as a 

1835
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:53,560
.5 as well. 
The rush attempt seems like a 

1836
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:56,120
lock, doesn't it? 
Yeah, the rush attempt is. 

1837
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:57,800
Nice. 
Well, Watson did come back 

1838
01:27:57,800 --> 01:27:59,400
though, right We. 
He did come back. 

1839
01:27:59,640 --> 01:28:03,720
Yeah, yeah, yeah. 
But the fact that SMA has been 

1840
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,880
running so effectively is the 
part of it where I'm like, they 

1841
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:10,720
got to lean into that a little. 
Bit I will say though, guys like

1842
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:14,080
from not saying we have to do 
this, I guess we could go back 

1843
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,320
to it. 
Like we do have a spot where we 

1844
01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:20,680
could like really nicely hedge 
to like even playing an under on

1845
01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:25,320
the rushing just because. 
But I'm not saying we have to do

1846
01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,760
it on this one, but it might be 
worth like splitting. 

1847
01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:31,760
Like I would even be around to 
run this two ways one with the 

1848
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,400
estimate lower and one with the 
higher cuz then the lower helps 

1849
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:38,360
that other one. 
Sure. 

1850
01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,240
You're saying cuz we're in such 
good position on that other one,

1851
01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,040
we should hedge it a little. 
And I don't think that's a bad 

1852
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:46,280
idea, but I'm saying. 
If the Herbert and Lad stuff 

1853
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:50,120
hits, you're still, you're still
making, you're still making 

1854
01:28:50,120 --> 01:28:51,680
money on this one. 
Right. 

1855
01:28:55,920 --> 01:28:58,120
Like let me just see here what 
this pays as is. 

1856
01:28:58,120 --> 01:29:04,600
So this is a 10.7. 
So it's like 50 to win 537. 

1857
01:29:06,960 --> 01:29:09,800
OK. 
I think that's smart. 

1858
01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:13,160
I mean. 
Let's just see anything. 

1859
01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:15,400
I'm pretty into estimate. 
I was just getting all so 

1860
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:17,000
excited. 
I don't know if I want to. 

1861
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,080
I guess I don't mind not 
doubling down. 

1862
01:29:19,080 --> 01:29:21,600
I don't think I'm ready to hedge
the estimate one. 

1863
01:29:22,920 --> 01:29:27,160
It's more to like, I think we 
all like the Herbert and Lad 

1864
01:29:27,160 --> 01:29:30,120
stuff of just making sure we 
find one that we actually. 

1865
01:29:30,120 --> 01:29:32,600
Do some right. 
Just said there's a 30% boost in

1866
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,480
the lobby so I didn't know if 
you have it too but. 

1867
01:29:35,920 --> 01:29:39,320
I think I already used that one.
I don't have it. 

1868
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:47,240
Nope. 
All right, let's see here. 

1869
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:51,960
I mean, what, what did you guys 
read on the the Jovante stuff? 

1870
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,760
I mean, that's a big number 
they're putting there for him. 

1871
01:29:56,000 --> 01:30:00,280
Yeah, I like the lower on him 
because he has a 15 yard carry 

1872
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:03,600
and then only two other carries.
He's got 4 catches already. 

1873
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:07,760
I'm happy to take a lower on 
him, which is kind of a a way to

1874
01:30:07,760 --> 01:30:10,680
play estimate too. 
They're not actually they 

1875
01:30:11,400 --> 01:30:13,720
started estimating this game. 
They're not using a lot of 

1876
01:30:13,720 --> 01:30:16,360
Javante, even though he did have
that one long run 3 carries. 

1877
01:30:16,440 --> 01:30:19,480
They're used Watson, so it's 
it's estimate has five carries. 

1878
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:22,760
Javante has three, Watson has 
two, Mims has one. 

1879
01:30:23,480 --> 01:30:25,560
It's like Javante just had a. 
Rotation player. 

1880
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:29,040
What if we run it twice, Once 
with the estimate higher, once 

1881
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:33,000
with the Javante lower, and then
we can easily hit it both ways. 

1882
01:30:33,240 --> 01:30:34,280
Love it that's. 
Beautiful. 

1883
01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:36,400
OK. 
Do you and you guys like doing 

1884
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,160
just rushing yards for Javonte 
or do you want the extra padding

1885
01:30:39,160 --> 01:30:40,760
with rushing receiving? 
I like the extra padding. 

1886
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,040
That's 20 yards. 
He has four catches for 14. 

1887
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,280
He doesn't break plays in the 
pass game. 

1888
01:30:45,600 --> 01:30:48,000
He's got to catch like 7 balls 
to get those 20 yards. 

1889
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:50,320
That's huge. 
Oh, he's already got 36. 

1890
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:52,920
I'm sorry, the 14th. 
That's why there's a 20 yard 

1891
01:30:52,920 --> 01:30:54,560
gap. 
He's already got 14 receiving 

1892
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:55,680
yards. 
I'm misreading. 

1893
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:58,600
So how many more yards are we 
taking on? 

1894
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:01,520
6. 
So it's taking on 6, then I then

1895
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,640
I think I just want the rushing.
Let's just do the rushing. 

1896
01:31:03,680 --> 01:31:06,160
Yep. 
OK, so let's run this. 

1897
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:09,960
We'll run this once here with 
the Javonte lower. 

1898
01:31:09,960 --> 01:31:15,400
I'll drop the link in the chat 
and then we'll run it once with 

1899
01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:21,200
the estimate and you like, do 
you guys want the extra 

1900
01:31:21,840 --> 01:31:24,880
receiving juice with estimate or
do you just want to run the 

1901
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,320
rushing? 
Or do we want the attempts? 

1902
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,920
Or the attempts. 
I mean, the way he's been, his 

1903
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:34,000
yards per carry has been pretty 
good in this game like. 

1904
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:37,520
How it has been 6 attempts, he's
going to get the 22 rushing 

1905
01:31:37,520 --> 01:31:40,040
yards I feel like. 
So you would, you'd want the 

1906
01:31:40,040 --> 01:31:42,960
yards 'cause he could also get 
the 22 on 4 attempts, you know, 

1907
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:46,080
Right, right, right. 
I think, and I think I like just

1908
01:31:46,080 --> 01:31:49,520
doing the rushing yards. 
It's weird, but it's only two 

1909
01:31:49,640 --> 01:31:51,760
yards. 
But they haven't used Watson and

1910
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,000
Devante and all. 
Yeah, I like rush. 

1911
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,760
He might be the fourth guy in 
the passing game out of the 

1912
01:31:56,760 --> 01:31:59,560
backfield right With Mims, too. 
Yeah. 

1913
01:32:03,200 --> 01:32:10,720
All right, let's see here. 
I love that. 

1914
01:32:10,760 --> 01:32:12,200
I love that combo. 
That was very fun. 

1915
01:32:14,720 --> 01:32:19,920
Yeah, Herbert lad Teddy and then
playing the Broncos backs both 

1916
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:24,640
ways feels good. 
Looks like they're projecting 

1917
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:27,920
what? 
What does Fidel have in the 

1918
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,680
first half? 
Two for 22. 

1919
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:35,080
Which is really weird Pete 
because when he had that first 

1920
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,400
run I was like oh you nailed 
that and he looked great and 

1921
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:41,680
they have not leaned into that 
like Gus looking terrible. 

1922
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,040
Gus had a couple good runs early
and every other carries been 

1923
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:47,520
stuffed at the line for Gus 
since like that first drive. 

1924
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:50,400
Yeah. 
Very bizarre. 

1925
01:32:53,080 --> 01:33:03,400
Or that first touchdown Dr., I 
should say, he had 8910110 and 

1926
01:33:03,400 --> 01:33:04,760
they had a three and out right 
away. 

1927
01:33:04,760 --> 01:33:08,120
We had a four yard so he had 15 
rushing yards by the end of that

1928
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:10,080
touchdown Dr. which they had a 
three and out and then a 

1929
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:11,280
touchdown Dr. on their second 
drive. 

1930
01:33:11,280 --> 01:33:15,240
He's only at 18 now. 
Like he's not gotten anywhere 

1931
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,200
since since that really early 
usage. 

1932
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:33,120
Yeah. 
Oh, they're saying. 

1933
01:33:33,320 --> 01:33:36,360
Did you not see Gus limped off? 
Yeah, everyone talked about that

1934
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:41,120
and then someone said he came 
came back in after limping off. 

1935
01:33:41,120 --> 01:33:44,720
So I don't know seen conflicting
comments about that. 

1936
01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:49,080
Is there any other way that you 
like playing this Pete? 

1937
01:33:49,080 --> 01:33:56,960
Like a angle you're. 
Seeing the not not specific 

1938
01:33:57,000 --> 01:34:02,480
macro, I mean I do think I still
like we did Sutton tutty in one 

1939
01:34:02,480 --> 01:34:04,800
of them. 
Like now getting up to 2 1/2 X 

1940
01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:09,680
on a Sutton touchdown seems 
solid to me. 

1941
01:34:10,960 --> 01:34:13,920
Like I I would be down to do 
like lad Tutty, Sutton tutty 

1942
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:15,240
just play. 
The game that sounds funny. 

1943
01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:19,360
A little bit. 
Yeah, let's do that. 

1944
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:21,560
That's a great. 
What about what about do they 

1945
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:23,920
have Nick's rushing? 
That's the one we never got on, 

1946
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,880
but it I mean, he's, yeah, he's 
been moving around. 

1947
01:34:26,960 --> 01:34:34,000
Rejection refreshing. 
I guess with them being in the 

1948
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:40,000
lead, I'm I'm a little less than
two because it's it's about, 

1949
01:34:40,600 --> 01:34:43,240
it's about drop backs. 
His Russian comes on scramble, 

1950
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:46,280
so you need drop, right. 
But it's like he only has the 

1951
01:34:46,280 --> 01:34:48,800
two carries. 
They've both been for 15 and 10 

1952
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:49,920
yards. 
They've both been like, he's 

1953
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:52,040
gotten into space and you're 
like, oh, he's, he's all over 

1954
01:34:52,040 --> 01:34:53,520
the place, but he only has the 
two. 

1955
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:55,040
Yeah. 
That's true. 

1956
01:34:58,640 --> 01:35:00,280
I'm a little bit still. 
Refreshing. 

1957
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:04,240
I don't know why they're not. 
Ray Worshing prime stories First

1958
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,800
fair catch, fair kick me free 
kick made field goal since 1976.

1959
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,640
Ray Worshing was the last. 
Guy to do it that's. 

1960
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,360
That's a kicker in 1976, Ray 
Worshing. 

1961
01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:17,440
I mean, come on, could there 
have been a better a better 

1962
01:35:17,440 --> 01:35:24,080
1970s kicker name? 
Who? 

1963
01:35:24,200 --> 01:35:30,560
What's that Sounds like an 
episode that John Boyce needs to

1964
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:35,960
need to cover because he does 
the like the Skorgami series 

1965
01:35:35,960 --> 01:35:37,280
seems right up the alley. 
The. 

1966
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,400
Secret base stuff, Yeah, yeah, 
yeah. 

1967
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,280
Yeah, I don't know why. 
At least we snuck in our our 

1968
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:47,760
ones here before the the entire 
lobby went down. 

1969
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:52,160
They do they they should do a 
long like a history of the 

1970
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,200
Browns. 
They did a history of my Seattle

1971
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:58,920
Mariners and they went through 
how weird of a of a lifespan the

1972
01:35:58,920 --> 01:36:01,920
Seattle Mariners team has had. 
And it was like a whole series. 

1973
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:05,280
It was like 3, you know, like 
hour long episodes or something.

1974
01:36:05,680 --> 01:36:08,200
I absolutely loved it with all 
those visuals and stuff and all 

1975
01:36:08,200 --> 01:36:10,880
these quirks about, you know, 
you learn about like these like 

1976
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:13,640
relief pitchers getting in a 
fight in the 1980s and all this 

1977
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:15,840
like random stuff and then also 
the stuff that you knew. 

1978
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:20,600
And anyway, just a super funny. 
Do you guys want to lock lock? 

1979
01:36:20,600 --> 01:36:23,880
This in we could also include 
the Herbert with this if we, you

1980
01:36:23,880 --> 01:36:26,280
know, if we're committed to that
now we have just run this 

1981
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:28,400
Herbert thing three ways. 
This is a 28X. 

1982
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:28,880
That's pretty. 
Fun. 

1983
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,920
Let's do it. 
I'm gonna grab another drink. 

1984
01:36:34,200 --> 01:36:37,400
All right, there's one more for 
you guys, same core, just with 

1985
01:36:37,480 --> 01:36:39,880
the the Sutton Cutty in there as
well. 

1986
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:56,800
All right. 
There's that Smith, right? 

1987
01:36:56,880 --> 01:36:57,840
That's. 
The mate is the part. 

1988
01:36:57,840 --> 01:36:59,240
Great, great. 
Beautiful. 

1989
01:37:00,120 --> 01:37:03,520
Nice little. 6 yard young man. 
Didn't he get the first carry of

1990
01:37:03,520 --> 01:37:05,800
the game too? 
Yeah, yeah. 

1991
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:27,000
Is Hayden Hurst active? 
I really need 3 tutties from. 

1992
01:37:28,880 --> 01:37:31,120
I thought I did see you as 
activated for this game. 

1993
01:37:32,080 --> 01:37:33,720
Well, I don't have any tutties 
yet. 

1994
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:37,240
There's Watson. 
This is one of the most 

1995
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,400
hilarious rotations. 
It's like you talk about teams 

1996
01:37:40,400 --> 01:37:44,560
that rotate a drive or a series 
or and it's just like yo every. 

1997
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:46,760
Every way, you better be, you 
better. 

1998
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:48,640
As soon as your tackles, you're 
up, you're looking to the 

1999
01:37:48,640 --> 01:37:51,240
sidelines, you're doing the the 
oh, I'm out, OK. 

2000
01:37:52,080 --> 01:37:56,840
Yeah. 
I was grabbing a drink. 

2001
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,840
Pull estimate gave us a good run
there right to start. 

2002
01:37:59,840 --> 01:38:01,840
Yeah, and then they immediately 
brought Watson in. 

2003
01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:06,160
Oh, now we got Mims. 
Nice. 

2004
01:38:06,320 --> 01:38:07,960
God, let's, let's lock up this. 
Let's. 

2005
01:38:08,040 --> 01:38:11,000
Get that catch. 
They're going to hand this off 

2006
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:11,800
to him. 
I don't know. 

2007
01:38:12,320 --> 01:38:20,640
They're on the screen, Franklin.
Yeah, damn dude. 

2008
01:38:21,040 --> 01:38:23,280
He's really excited that he 
probably caught a pass we. 

2009
01:38:25,720 --> 01:38:30,000
All are. 
I've got him live in something, 

2010
01:38:30,000 --> 01:38:33,120
one of the like puppies or 
something. 

2011
01:38:33,120 --> 01:38:35,840
I was like, well I've been some 
big boards and I just assume he 

2012
01:38:35,840 --> 01:38:40,680
must be on there. 
My my. 

2013
01:38:40,760 --> 01:38:42,880
Vote to be. 
This year's AT Perry. 

2014
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,560
Wasn't it like week 18 AT Perry 
went off last year? 

2015
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:47,360
Like that's gonna be the Troy 
Franklin. 

2016
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:51,000
Like he's gonna go for like 2. 
102 man in week 18 in the week 

2017
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,240
18, that's perfect. 
Mims in the backfield again. 

2018
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:54,760
Oh my God. 
Mims, come on. 

2019
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:56,720
No, don't do that. 
At least he picked it up. 

2020
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:01,440
This team has 19 running backs 
and we have Marvin Bibs fumbling

2021
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:11,360
pitches in the backfield. 
John Payton, I he, he's one of 

2022
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:13,240
the biggest coaching enigmas 
man. 

2023
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:15,840
Like you either love him or you 
hate him kind of a thing. 

2024
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:21,200
Like I, I within the same games,
I sometimes I don't know how to 

2025
01:39:21,200 --> 01:39:23,440
ever say I love him, but like 
kind of admire some of the stuff

2026
01:39:23,440 --> 01:39:26,880
that he does. 
And then I'm like, Oh my God, it

2027
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:30,240
over yourself, please. 
It is interesting. 

2028
01:39:30,280 --> 01:39:31,560
Oh, Mimps is back in the 
backfield again. 

2029
01:39:32,520 --> 01:39:34,440
We got another toss on the very 
next play. 

2030
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:37,240
Oh, that's amazing. 
Throw it to Mimps. 

2031
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:41,880
Throw it to. 
He could have chucked that 

2032
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:45,920
inside the Mims. 
Mims getting a lot of a lot of 

2033
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:53,360
run here. 
I, you know, I was thinking 

2034
01:39:53,360 --> 01:39:57,760
about the other day because of, 
of how well Ross has done, you 

2035
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:02,720
know, in another system. 
But then at the same time, well,

2036
01:40:02,920 --> 01:40:08,640
that point's cut short. 
It's like, Nope, not going to 

2037
01:40:08,640 --> 01:40:14,680
speak over that. 
I think he needs a specific type

2038
01:40:14,680 --> 01:40:17,360
of quarterback. 
You know, he's got a system that

2039
01:40:17,360 --> 01:40:19,400
the quarterback better be able 
to run his system. 

2040
01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:24,680
And I think Knicks is kind of 
that dude, like that was the 

2041
01:40:24,680 --> 01:40:27,880
thing that some of us did talk 
about this offseason. 

2042
01:40:27,880 --> 01:40:30,840
Like I've I've seen some some 
comments that are like no one 

2043
01:40:30,840 --> 01:40:34,000
expect this from the Broncos. 
I'm like, dude, stealing lines. 

2044
01:40:34,000 --> 01:40:37,600
I took their win total over as a
ladder and they've all hit 

2045
01:40:38,160 --> 01:40:42,320
because like for some of the 
like that, I mean, like Seagull 

2046
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:44,360
was really on it as well. 
There's some people that talk 

2047
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:49,160
about they were you. 
They were, Peyton felt hamstrung

2048
01:40:49,160 --> 01:40:52,040
by Russ Wilson last year. 
They were hiding Russ Wilson. 

2049
01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:55,320
And you go to a rookie who 
people had a lot of question 

2050
01:40:55,320 --> 01:40:56,560
marks about. 
And I understand people say, 

2051
01:40:56,560 --> 01:40:58,080
well, they're going to get 
they're going to get worse. 

2052
01:40:58,480 --> 01:41:02,840
But they were still like 7 and 
10 or something with Ross as a 

2053
01:41:02,840 --> 01:41:05,520
quarterback that they basically 
didn't trust at all. 

2054
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:10,160
And then this year you go to a 
quarterback that actually has 

2055
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:12,680
the potential to fit, even if 
he's not like, you know, a 

2056
01:41:12,920 --> 01:41:15,680
better quarterback necessarily, 
but he fits better. 

2057
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:18,120
He's like, that's the way I 
remember writing it up in like 

2058
01:41:18,120 --> 01:41:21,120
the offseason signal stuff is he
might just be a better fit for 

2059
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:25,120
what Sean Payton needs to do. 
And if Peyton's able to, like, I

2060
01:41:25,120 --> 01:41:29,840
do think he's a reasonably good 
coach at like getting results, 

2061
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:32,240
like keeping games close. 
And that's why he went 7:00 and 

2062
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:34,360
10:00 last year, even though he 
didn't even trust his 

2063
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:36,800
quarterback, right? 
Like they had a good defense 

2064
01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:37,960
last year, but it wasn't this 
good. 

2065
01:41:37,960 --> 01:41:39,600
Their defense has gotten a lot 
better too. 

2066
01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:41,640
But I mean, they're they're a 
playoff team. 

2067
01:41:41,640 --> 01:41:45,720
They're like, if you can run 
this offense reasonably well, 

2068
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:47,720
that you're going to be a 
playoff team because their DS 

2069
01:41:47,720 --> 01:41:50,440
good, you know, like. 
You just, you don't seem to make

2070
01:41:50,440 --> 01:41:53,880
like a ton of dumb mistakes 
either, which obviously speaks 

2071
01:41:54,320 --> 01:41:58,800
the the coaching, the. 
Other thing I so Ben, we talked 

2072
01:41:58,800 --> 01:42:00,560
about we, we had a Ravens game 
on here. 

2073
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,400
We're prepping for stuff. 
And I was talking about the open

2074
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,880
scores and I was like, it's kind
of funny because all these dudes

2075
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:08,480
have like high open scores and 
like, what's more likely that 

2076
01:42:09,400 --> 01:42:11,680
they're all like the Ravens just
found the best route runners in 

2077
01:42:11,680 --> 01:42:14,120
the league or there's a scheme 
here that's like getting these 

2078
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:17,960
guys open. 
And so I was looking at open 

2079
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:23,200
score and yak score from a team 
level is a, is a way to kind of 

2080
01:42:23,200 --> 01:42:25,760
like try to measure your scheme 
a little bit. 

2081
01:42:26,440 --> 01:42:34,280
And New Orleans has a few of the
best scores with combining that 

2082
01:42:34,400 --> 01:42:38,320
in that way. 
That was a Mims target that went

2083
01:42:38,480 --> 01:42:41,920
into the stands. 
If Mims was 19 feet tall, he 

2084
01:42:41,920 --> 01:42:44,600
might had a crack at that. 
Sorry, I built. 

2085
01:42:44,680 --> 01:42:46,840
What did you say about? 
No, I built this little scheme 

2086
01:42:46,840 --> 01:42:49,960
score thing and it it has 
several of the New Orleans 

2087
01:42:49,960 --> 01:42:52,120
seasons, but only when Peyton 
was there. 

2088
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,200
It dries up. 
It dries up as soon as it dries 

2089
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:59,160
up after 2019. 
So as soon as he's gone, or 

2090
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:01,200
maybe 2020 is the last one, but 
I think he was there for that. 

2091
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:05,120
So it's like all the Peyton 
years and then once he's gone, 

2092
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:09,360
like it's a right, you know, 
it's he's he's I think, doing 

2093
01:43:09,360 --> 01:43:11,560
some stuff. 
It's but he needs you to do the 

2094
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:13,840
stuff he knows how to do as a 
member. 

2095
01:43:14,280 --> 01:43:16,520
Got it. 
There's a third go water. 

2096
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:23,320
That's awesome. 
They were all those really high 

2097
01:43:23,320 --> 01:43:26,080
catch rate plot passes too. 
Couple wide receiver screens and

2098
01:43:26,080 --> 01:43:27,040
A and a swing. 
Yep. 

2099
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:30,320
Welcome to stream. 
With that. 4 right we need. 4 

2100
01:43:30,360 --> 01:43:32,600
Thank you. 
Oh, we do have a stretch. 

2101
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:34,800
That's right, yeah. 
We do have, we do have a stretch

2102
01:43:34,800 --> 01:43:37,680
where we have it to four that 
also needs the gust lower to 

2103
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:39,920
stay in check and then lad to 
hit 89 1/2. 

2104
01:43:39,920 --> 01:43:43,920
So got some really nice things 
cooking right now. 

2105
01:43:46,440 --> 01:43:47,640
Yeah. 
Are you willing to do? 

2106
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:51,200
Exciting. 
Gretchen, you want to do it. 

2107
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:52,400
This is why I'm hot in 
rendition. 

2108
01:43:52,400 --> 01:43:53,600
If we hit This is why I'm. 
Hot. 

2109
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:55,440
I was just thinking about it, 
Yeah. 

2110
01:43:56,960 --> 01:43:58,000
That feels hot because. 
Some. 

2111
01:43:58,040 --> 01:44:01,160
Fly. 
How? 

2112
01:44:01,280 --> 01:44:06,400
How's your week going, Steph? 
You got you got best ball pod 

2113
01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:10,920
fever. 
Yeah, I I do I I got 12 teams 

2114
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:16,600
through total. 
I got 3 BBMS and estimate unique

2115
01:44:16,600 --> 01:44:20,280
on two of them where I'm the 
only one in the pod with them. 

2116
01:44:21,320 --> 01:44:23,600
I have Josh Palmer in one for 
some reason. 

2117
01:44:24,200 --> 01:44:28,840
So it's funny how these teams 
end up, but so yeah, so the 

2118
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:34,880
game's going decent here for me.
It's looking, I mean, more than 

2119
01:44:34,880 --> 01:44:37,080
I was expecting to get a 
festimate, you know, in this 

2120
01:44:37,080 --> 01:44:40,080
week possibly. 
So nice to have a little cushion

2121
01:44:40,080 --> 01:44:45,320
and hopefully we get some 
pickups so. 

2122
01:44:46,040 --> 01:44:50,120
Yeah, the are are you done with 
the? 

2123
01:44:50,120 --> 01:44:52,360
Did you do a a A column this 
week? 

2124
01:44:53,680 --> 01:44:56,440
No, we stopped for the season 
now. 

2125
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,360
Yeah. 
Because most people aren't doing

2126
01:44:59,360 --> 01:45:03,360
waivers through the play offs. 
Really right, Just if you're in 

2127
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:06,560
like your your own home leagues,
No, no more high stakes waivers.

2128
01:45:07,920 --> 01:45:09,760
I mean, and even then it's like 
one team. 

2129
01:45:11,560 --> 01:45:15,200
Yeah, exactly. 
And you and you managed it well.

2130
01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:18,520
So you. 
Know I'm like you, you I'm like 

2131
01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,840
you can't. 
You can message me in discord if

2132
01:45:20,840 --> 01:45:25,600
you have a specific question. 
That was like we were doing, I 

2133
01:45:25,600 --> 01:45:29,760
do the LG show for Fantasy Life 
and the producers come up with 

2134
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,720
these topics and one of them was
like, should we be worried about

2135
01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:37,000
like Nick Westbrook Akane? 
And I'm like, I don't know who 

2136
01:45:37,000 --> 01:45:41,280
this segment is for because 
anyone who made it to Week 16, 

2137
01:45:41,480 --> 01:45:44,400
they're they're not needing to 
rely on Nick Westbrook Akane. 

2138
01:45:44,600 --> 01:45:48,120
Anyone who's playing DFS ain't 
playing Nick Westbrook Akine. 

2139
01:45:48,200 --> 01:45:49,720
This. 
I was like, I don't know who 

2140
01:45:49,720 --> 01:45:51,360
this yet. 
Yeah, you should be concerned 

2141
01:45:51,480 --> 01:45:53,280
about Nick Westbrook, Akide 
right now. 

2142
01:45:54,560 --> 01:45:57,480
I mean, maybe if you're betting 
is propped down his touchdown 

2143
01:45:57,480 --> 01:46:00,680
props. 
I know what watch him go off now

2144
01:46:00,680 --> 01:46:02,760
after I went on that. 
Yeah, he's going to be like the 

2145
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:06,120
key this. 
Week he's been DNP this week so 

2146
01:46:06,120 --> 01:46:07,400
really lucky. 
Yeah. 

2147
01:46:08,200 --> 01:46:10,440
I bought you about today, but I 
know yesterday he was when I was

2148
01:46:10,440 --> 01:46:13,240
looking through. 
All right, the injury report. 

2149
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:20,160
So who are your Who are your 
biggest sweats across your best 

2150
01:46:20,160 --> 01:46:23,360
ball portfolio? 
I am a Lions fan. 

2151
01:46:24,440 --> 01:46:29,600
OK. 
Almond raw, I have Gibbs on a 

2152
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:34,160
team but it's not a BBM and then
I have him on a rookies and 

2153
01:46:34,160 --> 01:46:36,240
sophomore, but he's 100% owned 
there. 

2154
01:46:36,520 --> 01:46:40,000
So that was. 
Both of my BBM semis are are 

2155
01:46:40,040 --> 01:46:41,360
almond raw teams too. 
I'm with you. 

2156
01:46:41,360 --> 01:46:44,480
Nice. 
Yeah, he's on all three of mine.

2157
01:46:44,480 --> 01:46:46,560
I did go through, I made a 
spreadsheet of where I have 

2158
01:46:46,560 --> 01:46:49,960
unique leverage and like all my 
teams. 

2159
01:46:49,960 --> 01:46:54,760
So it it makes it really easy 
and nice to see. 

2160
01:46:54,880 --> 01:46:58,960
So some clean sweats and some of
the smaller contents. 

2161
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,280
I have one where I have like 
Jamar Chase and I'm the only one

2162
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,920
in a pod and some crazy things. 
Yeah, wow. 

2163
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,560
I have an older man to Chase 
Brown on that team too. 

2164
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:11,680
OK. 
I got one through and it's Chase

2165
01:47:11,720 --> 01:47:13,640
Brown or not. 
Well, it is Chase Brown, but 

2166
01:47:13,640 --> 01:47:15,800
it's Jamar. 
Chase, Jamar. 

2167
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:19,760
Chase Nico Collins. 
Nico's cut Nico's unique. 

2168
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,320
I've seen some unique. 
Happen to have Nico? 

2169
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:24,600
Yeah, that's fun. 
I have a Nico team somewhere 

2170
01:47:24,600 --> 01:47:27,800
too. 
Leonie shared that he did the 

2171
01:47:27,800 --> 01:47:31,680
BBM simulator and I came by a 
second. 

2172
01:47:32,000 --> 01:47:34,440
You were a. 
Second, yeah, I can look for a. 

2173
01:47:34,600 --> 01:47:38,360
Little. 
Let's go, lad. 

2174
01:47:40,200 --> 01:47:41,920
Yeah. 
So couple times and it didn't 

2175
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:43,560
have any winning and I was like,
this thing's broken. 

2176
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:48,760
He he updated it. 
This is B bmdb.com I think now 

2177
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:50,840
with because he got the pod 
data. 

2178
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:53,680
So now it's more advanced than 
it was even before. 

2179
01:47:54,440 --> 01:47:56,920
I didn't play by the way. 
Oh God. 

2180
01:47:56,920 --> 01:48:01,640
TSU Rams. 
Oh no, yeah, right. 

2181
01:48:06,840 --> 01:48:13,240
The I'm having Patrick PD behind
B bmdb.com on After Dark on 

2182
01:48:13,280 --> 01:48:15,840
Saturday so I'm excited to. 
To get to know him better. 

2183
01:48:18,920 --> 01:48:20,400
Yeah, this is a. 
It's such a fun. 

2184
01:48:20,400 --> 01:48:23,720
I had only seen one SIM and I 
was second and now I've seen a 

2185
01:48:23,720 --> 01:48:25,880
bunch more and I'm not second in
those. 

2186
01:48:25,880 --> 01:48:28,000
And. 
I don't like it as much making 

2187
01:48:28,120 --> 01:48:30,720
it's making me think my odds are
not as strong as I was feeling. 

2188
01:48:31,560 --> 01:48:34,440
Yeah, I was showing. 
That 750 Ki felt pretty good 

2189
01:48:34,440 --> 01:48:40,000
about it. 
I should I should just have our 

2190
01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:43,040
I should just have producer Nick
screen share this and I just 

2191
01:48:43,040 --> 01:48:47,040
have Nick just roll just like 
the swap may be like all night 

2192
01:48:47,320 --> 01:48:48,800
until we get one that we like 
here. 

2193
01:48:54,040 --> 01:48:54,520
Bad. 
How many? 

2194
01:48:54,640 --> 01:48:56,360
What is? 
What is the? 

2195
01:48:56,360 --> 01:48:59,400
Math How many How many teams are
left right now? 

2196
01:49:00,200 --> 01:49:05,640
How many pods are there? 
11 of 16 get in and it's 535 or 

2197
01:49:05,680 --> 01:49:08,920
something final. 
Yeah, I know that the final's 

2198
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:11,760
535, but. 
It's a lot more than I thought. 

2199
01:49:12,080 --> 01:49:16,040
So it's like. 8. 1000, it's like
8000 plus, Yeah, yeah. 

2200
01:49:17,200 --> 01:49:20,400
So it might take a while to roll
and see your name right at the 

2201
01:49:20,440 --> 01:49:23,120
top. 
I mean last time I got my name 

2202
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:27,640
like right away. 
Again, me being 2nd and Leonie's

2203
01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:30,320
earlier, how do you think that I
was going to be on this? 

2204
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:36,400
Like the second spin, but no. 
There it is 8624, so it's been 

2205
01:49:36,400 --> 01:49:39,360
for a while. 
Get your screenshot equity. 

2206
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:44,720
So apparently I don't have the 
best team left or the second 

2207
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:48,800
best team, so my reality is 
being broken in real time right 

2208
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,320
now. 
Trying to see where I have 

2209
01:49:52,320 --> 01:49:53,880
memes. 
I think I have some memes too. 

2210
01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:56,920
Asshole Pinky Toes was the name 
there. 

2211
01:49:57,720 --> 01:50:03,120
Yeah, Memes is on my big board. 
You did miss a MIM sketch, 

2212
01:50:03,120 --> 01:50:06,360
probably David Flood. 
You sure did and. 

2213
01:50:06,800 --> 01:50:08,200
Poodle. 
This is why I'm hot. 

2214
01:50:08,280 --> 01:50:10,680
You got the three. 
Oh, there's there's our guy, 

2215
01:50:10,880 --> 01:50:13,200
Vogie Berra. 
When when you said that, I was 

2216
01:50:13,200 --> 01:50:14,920
trying to think of the lines 
because there's a there's a 

2217
01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:17,040
verse where he goes through like
a bunch of different cities, 

2218
01:50:17,040 --> 01:50:19,840
like a lot of those old rap 
songs used to, like the Petey 

2219
01:50:19,840 --> 01:50:21,280
Pablo song used to and all 
those. 

2220
01:50:21,280 --> 01:50:24,840
But there's a part where he 
talks about soon as I hit LA and

2221
01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:26,960
like, I mean, they're playing in
LA anyway. 

2222
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,720
OK, I'm not good enough to, I'm 
not good enough to pull it out, 

2223
01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,080
but. 
I've got no timber there. 

2224
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:37,160
That is the cool thing too with 
the SIM. 

2225
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,560
You can click on it, dink piece 
it first. 

2226
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:44,440
Dink piece. 
BT Rs having a night over here. 

2227
01:50:44,640 --> 01:50:45,480
It's a winning BB. 
Wow. 

2228
01:50:45,480 --> 01:50:46,960
Oh, I. 
Didn't know you could actually. 

2229
01:50:47,160 --> 01:50:51,160
Click on the light up. 
Yes, Steph, Steph, read these 

2230
01:50:51,160 --> 01:50:52,360
instructions. 
You see this, right? 

2231
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:53,920
Here. 
Well, it didn't. 

2232
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:56,120
It didn't have that on the 
original 1 I don't think. 

2233
01:50:57,600 --> 01:51:00,520
This dev is always shipping, 
always making improvements. 

2234
01:51:01,240 --> 01:51:03,120
Matt, you're late. 
You're going to have to give us 

2235
01:51:03,120 --> 01:51:06,280
20 push ups. 
Yeah. 20 push ups. 

2236
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:12,680
You got all right. 
Stone. 

2237
01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:14,800
All right, let's get the lab TD 
here, huh? 

2238
01:51:15,720 --> 01:51:17,680
Yeah, it'd be nice. 
It'd be nice. 

2239
01:51:20,240 --> 01:51:21,280
Yeah, let's get that out of the 
way. 

2240
01:51:21,280 --> 01:51:22,400
We. 
Got lad on our. 

2241
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:24,240
Oh, there. 
You go. 

2242
01:51:24,640 --> 01:51:26,240
And bathology. 
Wow, mythology. 

2243
01:51:27,080 --> 01:51:31,680
I didn't realize until I was 
checking out the BBMDB he had 

2244
01:51:31,680 --> 01:51:33,680
the highest scoring regular 
season team. 

2245
01:51:34,160 --> 01:51:36,080
Yeah, about. 
Like 500 points. 

2246
01:51:36,200 --> 01:51:38,200
And it got it got bounced in 
round one. 

2247
01:51:38,600 --> 01:51:42,800
No, that sucks and there was no 
prize for it this year. 

2248
01:51:42,840 --> 01:51:45,040
They should have at least kept. 
Some, but I think he got like 

2249
01:51:45,040 --> 01:51:47,160
six or seven through still, he 
had a really awesome. 

2250
01:51:47,520 --> 01:51:51,680
Yeah, yeah, he he's got a lot of
I was watching a stream he did 

2251
01:51:52,280 --> 01:51:57,960
earlier today with Tyler and 
Bendel's and they had some nice 

2252
01:51:57,960 --> 01:52:00,560
teams through so. 
Nice. 

2253
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:05,200
It is rough that they used to be
money for that and there wasn't 

2254
01:52:05,200 --> 01:52:07,000
money and there was money and 
now there's not money. 

2255
01:52:07,320 --> 01:52:10,360
There was $1,000,000 for that. 
Not just money. 

2256
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:13,600
I mean, that's a lot of money, 
at least to me. 

2257
01:52:14,320 --> 01:52:18,800
Yeah, no, that's a lot of money.
Well, I, I talked to him, Matt, 

2258
01:52:18,800 --> 01:52:22,120
about mythology about it 
actually, when we were at the 

2259
01:52:22,120 --> 01:52:25,560
Dog Bowl and he, he was very at 
peace and still very excited 

2260
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:26,360
about his team. 
So. 

2261
01:52:26,360 --> 01:52:29,000
Oh. 
He's glad he's got to be coming 

2262
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:32,960
up on the stretch goal. 
Yeah, 89 we needed. 

2263
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:38,280
He's up around 70 right now. 
Where are we? 

2264
01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,360
Yeah, 70. 
So he's over that. 

2265
01:52:43,000 --> 01:52:45,760
That's the this is. 
Yeah, but this is the core. 

2266
01:52:45,760 --> 01:52:46,680
So the core. 
There you go. 

2267
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:51,080
The core is looking strong. 
Gus doesn't do anything. 

2268
01:52:51,080 --> 01:52:57,080
The core is is good. 
Core's got two hits and one it's

2269
01:52:57,080 --> 01:52:59,000
fading. 
OK, that's a big hit. 

2270
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:04,840
Please be OK buddy. 
I think he's no, I don't know. 

2271
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:06,640
He doesn't look OK. 
Stinger. 

2272
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,160
I think he's all right. 
I think the winds just knocked 

2273
01:53:10,160 --> 01:53:13,680
out of him. 
He's fine. 

2274
01:53:14,600 --> 01:53:17,400
They're going to check him out, 
they're going to take him out of

2275
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:20,000
the game and then they're going 
to go the ball of Gus for TD. 

2276
01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:23,080
Yeah. 
Did his head hit the turf here? 

2277
01:53:23,080 --> 01:53:26,960
That's going to suck if it did. 
No, no, he's. 

2278
01:53:27,040 --> 01:53:27,920
Fine. 
No, not really. 

2279
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:30,880
His knee, OK, he's all right. 
It was something, it was 

2280
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:32,800
something on his knee. 
I think it was just hit the 

2281
01:53:32,800 --> 01:53:35,520
pressure. 
Well, he had the he had the 

2282
01:53:35,600 --> 01:53:39,160
ankle stuff, so. 
Yeah, I think it probably just 

2283
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:41,760
hurt. 
Yeah, it looks like. 

2284
01:53:41,760 --> 01:53:44,200
He laid there like he was 
concussed, but I think he was 

2285
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:45,560
just like, I think he's just 
hurt. 

2286
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:48,560
Yeah, yeah, I. 
Think he's all right? 

2287
01:53:49,200 --> 01:53:52,760
Yeah, it just surprised him. 
He's tough. 

2288
01:53:54,600 --> 01:53:58,200
I'm waiting to see Peter 
Overset's name up there for our.

2289
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:02,840
That's what I want to see. 
Oh, there's our guy Serum. 

2290
01:54:03,160 --> 01:54:04,760
Hey. 
Hey, Serum. 

2291
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,840
Nice. 
Oh gosh, good Lord, second 

2292
01:54:07,880 --> 01:54:10,080
touchdown. 
Why do they keep giving him the 

2293
01:54:10,080 --> 01:54:14,120
ball? 
Dubner, There we go. 

2294
01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:15,840
Nice. 
So bad out. 

2295
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:19,680
There one of we're getting This 
is about a fun exercise. 

2296
01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:22,920
That's that's what's so that's 
like the biggest sweat is like, 

2297
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:24,520
can we just have someone we know
who wins? 

2298
01:54:24,520 --> 01:54:26,760
There's Drap, who's at the dog 
ball. 

2299
01:54:26,760 --> 01:54:33,160
Yeah, he was there too. 
Soccer day. 3S as a grinder, I 

2300
01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:35,520
thought that said soccer day for
a second even though he has no 

2301
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:38,240
teams, but he got me. 
Elko, Dave. 

2302
01:54:38,360 --> 01:54:44,400
Not soccer, Dave. 
So there's a dude to my pod who 

2303
01:54:44,440 --> 01:54:52,640
has four quarterbacks, his 
running backs or he only has 5 

2304
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:55,040
running backs and three of them 
are Dave Montgomery, Alma Kamara

2305
01:54:55,040 --> 01:55:00,920
and Nick Chubb. 
But he has Gus and and these 

2306
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:01,520
other running. 
Backs. 

2307
01:55:01,520 --> 01:55:02,960
Oh my God. 
That's. 

2308
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:06,560
Something It's actually pretty 
live now that he got the Gus 

2309
01:55:06,560 --> 01:55:09,520
score. 
Our our pod has a a Gus team. 

2310
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:12,320
It's disgusting. 
I don't want to go look if 

2311
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,400
there's a Gus team in, am I? 
That would just ruin my 

2312
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:18,800
excitement. 
Pete. 

2313
01:55:18,840 --> 01:55:20,280
Yeah, I'm gonna. 
That's what I'm literally doing 

2314
01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:21,720
right now. 
Pete, do you mind checking the 

2315
01:55:27,840 --> 01:55:31,480
the one where we have a Mims 
over 3 1/2 catch with the 

2316
01:55:31,480 --> 01:55:33,640
stretch stuff? 
Didn't we do that? 

2317
01:55:33,640 --> 01:55:35,880
Oh, that's this one. 
OK, yeah, OK. 

2318
01:55:35,880 --> 01:55:38,720
That one looks good too. 
If we get to LAD 90, that's the 

2319
01:55:38,720 --> 01:55:39,760
one you were talking about of 
this. 

2320
01:55:39,760 --> 01:55:42,080
Yeah. 
And then LAD 90 here also opens 

2321
01:55:42,080 --> 01:55:44,080
up estimate getting 13 more 
like. 

2322
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:49,600
And then we have this one where 
we need another Mims, but still 

2323
01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:51,800
the Gus with the Sutton. 
Like everything is live right 

2324
01:55:51,800 --> 01:55:55,280
now, but it can get absolutely 
decimated by Gus. 

2325
01:55:56,600 --> 01:55:58,480
Sutton's got nothing. 
Wow. 

2326
01:55:59,160 --> 01:56:04,040
Well, this was a touchdown. 
Oh, I was like damn. 

2327
01:56:04,320 --> 01:56:06,160
Yeah, we didn't play any yardage
stuff for him. 

2328
01:56:06,160 --> 01:56:08,640
We just played the tutty OK. 
Gotcha. 

2329
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:15,920
I I avoided Gus in my 2 BBM pods
I went to. 

2330
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,160
Do we do we have one? 
I'm trying to get us on Gus guys

2331
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:22,480
That team wouldn't be. 
We were. 

2332
01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,000
Trying also apparently trying to
get us off Chase Brown. 

2333
01:56:25,000 --> 01:56:26,760
So careful. 
There I did try to get us off 

2334
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:29,120
Chase Brown, but for Brian 
Robinson, which isn't the worst.

2335
01:56:29,480 --> 01:56:32,560
But you guys, thank God you guys
got us on Chase Brown. 

2336
01:56:32,960 --> 01:56:36,320
I took so much Brian Robinson 
and I didn't advance any of him 

2337
01:56:36,320 --> 01:56:38,440
on any of my teams. 
I was really surprised because 

2338
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,400
he was. 
He was good, yeah. 

2339
01:56:40,760 --> 01:56:42,960
He didn't have a bad season. 
Wasn't Chase Brown good? 

2340
01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,280
He was good. 
He was good. 

2341
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:46,760
I have. 
It probably didn't help that he 

2342
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:51,440
wasn't I thought he was going to
go off last week against the 

2343
01:56:51,480 --> 01:56:53,120
Saints and it probably helped 
him. 

2344
01:56:53,120 --> 01:56:54,520
He didn't have a great game this
week. 

2345
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:58,960
B Rob yeah, that was a bummer. 
Those teams probably need, you 

2346
01:56:59,000 --> 01:57:03,000
know, you kind of need him to 
play like he has all year when 

2347
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:03,800
the. 
Matter is awesome. 

2348
01:57:04,400 --> 01:57:08,800
I snap share rush share of the 
year, 20 plus carries catching 

2349
01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:10,200
balls. 
It just didn't score it. 

2350
01:57:10,880 --> 01:57:12,400
Just didn't. 
Know it so. 

2351
01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:17,200
I was like terrified of what he 
was going to do to all the teams

2352
01:57:17,200 --> 01:57:21,320
where I don't have him. 
And then he didn't do a lot of 

2353
01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:24,480
what's that? 
The last one was that JJ 

2354
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:25,920
Zacharison has just won. 
Or not. 

2355
01:57:26,800 --> 01:57:28,920
I don't think so. 
I was half looking at it. 

2356
01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:31,280
I thought I saw. 
No, he, I, I forget his 

2357
01:57:31,320 --> 01:57:33,560
username. 
It's something random. 

2358
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,320
We are streaming, so we could 
circle back on that. 

2359
01:57:39,640 --> 01:57:41,840
Let's shut down the stream. 
There's Bullock and 2nd. 

2360
01:57:41,960 --> 01:57:46,240
Oh yeah. 
Sorry I'm I'm clicking it so 

2361
01:57:46,240 --> 01:57:49,040
fast that then I miss it when 
there's one to stay on. 

2362
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,160
Tom hates Underdog was the name 
there. 

2363
01:58:00,920 --> 01:58:03,760
He won't if he finishes there. 
If he wins the thing and his 

2364
01:58:03,760 --> 01:58:07,760
name's Tom hates underdog Josh. 
Norris doing that interview. 

2365
01:58:20,760 --> 01:58:22,680
Yeah, we need, we need Denver to
keep scoring. 

2366
01:58:22,680 --> 01:58:25,880
So there's no that Gus is really
just getting the short yardage 

2367
01:58:25,880 --> 01:58:31,080
stuff and nothing else. 
I missed the line you guys had 

2368
01:58:31,080 --> 01:58:34,520
on Gus and it dropped so I was 
scared so I took a slightly 

2369
01:58:34,600 --> 01:58:38,480
bigger under. 
You move that you, you choose 

2370
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:41,640
it. 
Says I'm going to get. 

2371
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:44,920
Arthritis bite. 
I'd send buddy I draft like 350 

2372
01:58:45,040 --> 01:58:47,600
battle Royale tapes a week 
clicking buttons, buddy. 

2373
01:58:47,600 --> 01:58:51,920
We've we've built up the 
dexterity for a, for a tool like

2374
01:58:51,920 --> 01:58:52,960
this. 
Don't you worry. 

2375
01:58:55,000 --> 01:58:57,120
In his prime, you click all 
night. 

2376
01:58:57,200 --> 01:59:00,560
Clicking buttons that's. 
What we do, oh, it's something 

2377
01:59:00,560 --> 01:59:04,800
in his elbow. 
Herbert, they're doing some 

2378
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:08,160
maintenance on his elbow. 
Shoot him up. 

2379
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:10,720
Yeah, did. 
They just. 

2380
01:59:10,720 --> 01:59:13,280
Chimer. 
No, that was. 

2381
01:59:13,560 --> 01:59:16,160
Like a roaming elbow. 
That was like a cold cold laser 

2382
01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:17,000
therapy. 
What? 

2383
01:59:17,560 --> 01:59:19,280
Was. 
It was it was it who had the 

2384
01:59:19,320 --> 01:59:21,520
giant elbow. 
We were all kind of freaking 

2385
01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:21,840
out. 
I don't. 

2386
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:25,680
Remember. 
That's not right about. 

2387
01:59:25,720 --> 01:59:27,560
I remember. 
Heard giant elbow. 

2388
01:59:27,560 --> 01:59:31,400
It was some like it was some 
Bursitis or something. 

2389
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:33,440
We're like, that's not how an 
elbow looks. 

2390
01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:37,560
There's Eric. 
It was Eric who was it? 

2391
01:59:37,720 --> 01:59:38,680
Yeah, Help me out. 
It was like. 

2392
01:59:38,840 --> 01:59:40,520
Because there was the. 
Picture that came out and it 

2393
01:59:40,520 --> 01:59:42,080
looked like. 
Jayden Elbow. 

2394
01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:45,520
Yeah, it was Jayden Daniels. 
It was Jayden Daniels. 

2395
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:48,440
It was like his elbow, and it 
looked like his elbow started 

2396
01:59:48,440 --> 01:59:51,320
here and his arm was, like 
connected halfway through his 

2397
01:59:51,320 --> 01:59:52,600
arm. 
It was kind of crazy. 

2398
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:57,000
Partly the angle of the picture.
Oh, God, that's disgusting. 

2399
01:59:57,400 --> 01:59:59,680
Yes. 
What? 

2400
02:00:00,200 --> 02:00:02,920
It's like, what is going on? 
It looks like his bicep's eating

2401
02:00:02,920 --> 02:00:04,640
his arm. 
That is. 

2402
02:00:04,640 --> 02:00:06,080
That's it. 
OK, there's another one there 

2403
02:00:06,080 --> 02:00:07,000
where he's working. 
Out, yeah. 

2404
02:00:07,240 --> 02:00:09,560
What's the thing? 
It's like party's anatomy. 

2405
02:00:10,720 --> 02:00:13,280
OK, that's weird and I want to 
fade him the rest of his career.

2406
02:00:13,720 --> 02:00:14,520
I know, that's why. 
He's too. 

2407
02:00:14,600 --> 02:00:17,080
Low on him. 
Is that a thing that's that 

2408
02:00:17,080 --> 02:00:20,320
can't until August to realize 
that he was the running a 

2409
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:22,480
running quarterback drive. 
The second overall was a good 

2410
02:00:22,480 --> 02:00:24,160
pick. 
That's going to shatter. 

2411
02:00:25,640 --> 02:00:27,200
They just fumble. 
It was. 

2412
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:27,920
It was. 
A50. 

2413
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:30,680
He was just a. 
Catcher A A pick. 

2414
02:00:31,360 --> 02:00:32,800
They were fighting for it. 
Yeah, I. 

2415
02:00:32,880 --> 02:00:35,720
Always had it. 
Like they were not letting go. 

2416
02:00:38,120 --> 02:00:40,520
And they're saying Broncos. 
How he goes to the runner. 

2417
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:43,400
Yeah, that, that's what I would 
think. 

2418
02:00:43,960 --> 02:00:47,520
Oh, Nick is running off the 
field. 

2419
02:00:47,880 --> 02:00:55,520
Yeah, that's Chargers. 
No, Javonte's just not good. 

2420
02:00:55,560 --> 02:00:59,880
Well, just gave him the ball. 
Oh, that might be that. 

2421
02:00:59,880 --> 02:01:01,600
That's simultaneous. 
That's an interception. 

2422
02:01:01,960 --> 02:01:03,880
No, that's not other punting. 
No, that's why. 

2423
02:01:05,680 --> 02:01:07,600
I was like, he looked like he 
had that, yeah. 

2424
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:11,760
Yeah. 
Oh wow, Nick is calling a shot 

2425
02:01:11,760 --> 02:01:13,240
says my wife just yelled from 
the other room. 

2426
02:01:13,240 --> 02:01:15,640
If I wanted anything from Taco 
Bell, we are definitely ringing 

2427
02:01:15,640 --> 02:01:16,440
the bell tonight. 
Wow. 

2428
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:18,240
Hell yeah. 
Damn dude. 

2429
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:23,360
That's why he married her. 
I'm. 

2430
02:01:23,720 --> 02:01:24,920
Willing to ring the bell with 
you? 

2431
02:01:26,320 --> 02:01:27,720
She's just ringing the bell 
like. 

2432
02:01:28,720 --> 02:01:29,560
Preemptively. 
You know. 

2433
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:31,880
Just it's. 
Not I. 

2434
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:34,240
Mean yeah, the achievers. 
Completely unrelated to the 

2435
02:01:34,240 --> 02:01:36,560
football game. 
She's just ringing the bell to 

2436
02:01:36,560 --> 02:01:39,320
ring it. 
How do you know she doesn't 

2437
02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:40,360
watch the stream? 
Maybe she's a. 

2438
02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:43,000
Fan it's so funny we managed to 
have because she yelled from the

2439
02:01:43,000 --> 02:01:44,480
other room. 
Unless this is a a. 2. 

2440
02:01:45,120 --> 02:01:47,160
Are they watching the same show 
in different rooms? 

2441
02:01:47,560 --> 02:01:50,920
Yeah. 
Clicking some of these. 

2442
02:01:50,920 --> 02:01:53,320
This is such a shift. 
Chaser team here. 

2443
02:01:53,480 --> 02:01:56,000
Justin Fields, Chase Brown, 
Kendra Villa, Ray Davis, 

2444
02:01:56,000 --> 02:01:59,440
Buckettier of Xavier Worthy, 
Jordan Addison, Roshi Rice, 

2445
02:01:59,640 --> 02:02:01,240
Waddell Robinson, Devantes 
Walker. 

2446
02:02:01,240 --> 02:02:03,080
Terrific bride. 
Amazing. 

2447
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:04,920
Spot that from a mile. 
To a team. 

2448
02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:07,760
Justin Fields in the 18th round.
Yeah. 

2449
02:02:08,680 --> 02:02:16,980
Man, that's great. 
See. 

2450
02:02:17,380 --> 02:02:19,500
They're not watching the the 
game together. 

2451
02:02:19,500 --> 02:02:21,820
Her friend is over in there, 
tipsy and hungry. 

2452
02:02:22,220 --> 02:02:28,820
Amazing. 
I've done that a couple times 

2453
02:02:28,820 --> 02:02:33,500
this year where I've had I've 
had Taco Bell prior to the show.

2454
02:02:33,500 --> 02:02:39,200
For some reason it's like but 
she apparently is not running on

2455
02:02:39,200 --> 02:02:40,400
that. 
There you go, 3rd place. 

2456
02:02:40,400 --> 02:02:42,040
I don't know how to say it, but 
that's our guy. 

2457
02:02:42,040 --> 02:02:43,040
Oh. 
Yeah, Rokash, right. 

2458
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:54,680
Yeah, you're right. 
I think this thing might be 

2459
02:02:54,680 --> 02:02:56,800
broken. 
Yes, I should have shown you 

2460
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:58,880
right now. 
Yeah, it's definitely broken. 

2461
02:03:00,280 --> 02:03:03,040
I mean, we've, we've seen like 
25 friends, but it's not us. 

2462
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:05,800
So it's definitely broken. 
I mean, before, like I said, I 

2463
02:03:05,800 --> 02:03:07,480
was showing up on everybody, so 
I like the first. 

2464
02:03:07,480 --> 02:03:12,440
Ryan, are you making that up? 
Today was the day Taco Bell got 

2465
02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:14,520
chicken Nuggets on the menu. 
I saw this. 

2466
02:03:14,600 --> 02:03:16,320
Yeah, I saw an ad for that 
somewhere. 

2467
02:03:16,360 --> 02:03:18,120
That's a real thing. 
Why? 

2468
02:03:18,440 --> 02:03:20,560
Yeah. 
Well, guess I'm going to Taco 

2469
02:03:20,560 --> 02:03:22,520
Bell tomorrow. 
I just got to find out, you know

2470
02:03:22,520 --> 02:03:25,640
what it's like. 
Look at this team. 

2471
02:03:26,440 --> 02:03:27,360
Who? 
Goes to the Taco bar. 

2472
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:28,440
Chicken. 
Nuggets. 

2473
02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:31,280
I mean I. 
Why would like? 

2474
02:03:33,360 --> 02:03:36,520
Are you this running back room 
for sick fart one? 

2475
02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:41,640
This is 6-7. 
That's incredible. 

2476
02:03:41,880 --> 02:03:45,200
Dude, the the receiver room is 
good though. 

2477
02:03:45,200 --> 02:03:48,000
Dude, this is a good. 
His first 8 picks were six 

2478
02:03:48,000 --> 02:03:50,160
receivers and two quarterbacks 
and that was it. 

2479
02:03:50,160 --> 02:03:52,800
It's like I'm just like all 
running backs dude. 

2480
02:03:52,800 --> 02:03:55,040
So wait, so he got 4th? 
What? 

2481
02:03:55,680 --> 02:03:58,840
Fourth round Keenan. 
OK, yeah, I guess this makes 

2482
02:03:58,840 --> 02:04:01,880
sense. 
Fourth round Hertz, Yeah. 

2483
02:04:02,440 --> 02:04:03,960
Fifth round Hertz. 
Fifth round Keenan. 

2484
02:04:04,640 --> 02:04:06,000
Yeah. 
Sixth round with Dunes, A 

2485
02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,440
seventh round JSN. 
Eighth round Burrow. 

2486
02:04:09,680 --> 02:04:13,280
Ninth round Brock. 
Yep. 10th round Chase, That's 

2487
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:15,720
nice. 
All right, there's there's 

2488
02:04:15,720 --> 02:04:18,280
Palmer again. 
I was prepared for this to be a 

2489
02:04:18,280 --> 02:04:19,800
doctor. 
Let's go, Palmer. 

2490
02:04:20,720 --> 02:04:26,280
They have fire ranch sauce and 
bell sauce and dude mustard 

2491
02:04:26,640 --> 02:04:28,240
sauce. 
Sick fart. 

2492
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:31,680
I might have to ring the bell 
tonight just to try some chicken

2493
02:04:31,680 --> 02:04:38,960
nuggies. 
We had Chipotle little bit ago. 

2494
02:04:39,160 --> 02:04:44,960
Somehow I have take out Mexican 
fast food every every Thursday. 

2495
02:04:45,400 --> 02:04:47,640
But you're getting Nuggets at 
the Mexican restaurant. 

2496
02:04:48,520 --> 02:04:49,640
Wow. 
So it doesn't count. 

2497
02:04:50,280 --> 02:04:53,360
Listen, when you're a Taco Bell 
faithful, you got a you got a 

2498
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:58,960
sample the the local fare. 
How much cushion do we have? 

2499
02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:03,120
When you go to Italy, you try 
the pasta, you go to Taco Bell, 

2500
02:05:03,120 --> 02:05:04,880
you try the chicken Nuggets. 
This is the way. 

2501
02:05:05,800 --> 02:05:10,160
It works. 
How about I go to Italy and try 

2502
02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:12,040
the pasta and you're going to 
Taco Bell that. 

2503
02:05:12,040 --> 02:05:18,320
Sounds like a good deal. 
Yeah, Gus, wait. 

2504
02:05:18,440 --> 02:05:22,080
How much cushion do we have? 
Not enough. 10 yards Did Gus 

2505
02:05:22,560 --> 02:05:23,320
what? 
What did he do? 

2506
02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:24,520
He. 
Just had a run. 

2507
02:05:24,520 --> 02:05:27,320
He keeps getting the ball. 
We have the under, yeah. 

2508
02:05:29,240 --> 02:05:30,880
Why is he getting so many 
carries? 

2509
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:35,840
It all looked good. 
It looked a lot better than. 

2510
02:05:37,560 --> 02:05:41,000
His longest 6? 
Gus Edwards in this game. 

2511
02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:43,000
He's got 10 carries for 27 
yards. 

2512
02:05:43,000 --> 02:05:45,360
He's got 2.7 yards. 
Per OH. 

2513
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:48,800
Leone. 
Oh, there he is, runner up. 

2514
02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:54,320
Oh nice, so he's got now. 
This one is pretty good. 

2515
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:57,800
Tight ends are in in rough 
shape. 

2516
02:05:57,800 --> 02:06:02,160
Keon Coleman, what a Homer. 
Here, let me take a screenshot 

2517
02:06:02,160 --> 02:06:09,640
of this Pete close up, OK? 
Yeah, because he sent you one of

2518
02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:10,960
you. 
You got to repay the favor. 

2519
02:06:11,000 --> 02:06:15,560
I got to send him one back, 
thank you. 

2520
02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:29,040
I wonder PD should set up a 
YouTube channel like BBMDB 

2521
02:06:29,480 --> 02:06:34,240
YouTube and just have a script 
that auto runs it and you just 

2522
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:37,120
tap in. 
He's got some low 5 beats and 

2523
02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:38,720
it's just that would be cool. 
Roll it. 

2524
02:06:38,800 --> 02:06:44,960
Yeah, here you go. 
Yeah, it's just this. 

2525
02:06:53,320 --> 02:06:56,720
No, I would do that. 
You know what you could work 

2526
02:06:56,720 --> 02:06:57,600
out? 
Yeah, that would keep me 

2527
02:06:57,600 --> 02:07:00,720
forever. 
Yeah, this is getting. 

2528
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:05,360
I could get a bike and just do 
this for 40 minutes easy. 

2529
02:07:05,440 --> 02:07:07,720
I wish you there was a counter 
that told you how many times 

2530
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:10,560
you've pushed the simulator. 
That would be bad. 

2531
02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:20,080
Oh man. 
It's a good, it's a good track 

2532
02:07:23,240 --> 02:07:25,600
and says there's technically 
statistical world where all four

2533
02:07:25,600 --> 02:07:28,600
of you finished top five. 
Just keep clicking and it will 

2534
02:07:28,600 --> 02:07:34,240
happen. 
Sometime there's Philly in the 

2535
02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:51,220
discord. 
There probably actually isn't, 

2536
02:07:51,220 --> 02:07:54,100
because our teams probably 
aren't similarly correlated 

2537
02:07:54,100 --> 02:07:58,440
enough, right? 
Like, yeah, that's true. 

2538
02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:02,400
It's probably not actually 
possible to get all of our teams

2539
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:04,080
to be the top 4, You know what I
mean? 

2540
02:08:04,080 --> 02:08:05,840
You would need like, insane 
score. 

2541
02:08:05,840 --> 02:08:09,800
Like whoever we share would have
to score like 130 million. 

2542
02:08:10,200 --> 02:08:11,520
Yeah, we're not my. 
Team. 

2543
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:17,520
'S extreme until. 
Every situation we're seeing is 

2544
02:08:17,680 --> 02:08:20,040
all these lineups are, are 
pretty correlated, right? 

2545
02:08:20,040 --> 02:08:29,160
They have to be right. 
All right. 

2546
02:08:31,600 --> 02:08:33,720
Oh, we just got a rocking the 
passer. 

2547
02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:39,520
There's ash coats the. 
Stream has devolved since 

2548
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:42,960
Sessler left. 
He's actually still here. 

2549
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:44,160
He's in. 
He's in the hopper. 

2550
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:46,600
We just bumped him for 
bbmdb.com. 

2551
02:08:49,560 --> 02:08:54,320
And it's really since I just 
seems just leaving it one no. 

2552
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:58,280
Yeah, somebody posted him. 
Somebody posted it in the 

2553
02:08:58,280 --> 02:09:04,160
Discord like right before. 
Liam would be. 

2554
02:09:04,200 --> 02:09:07,640
It is it honestly like again, 
you know, I I talked about this 

2555
02:09:07,640 --> 02:09:08,640
you. 
Chilled out many foots. 

2556
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:13,440
Lols today and like. 
That's a horse collar and a hip 

2557
02:09:13,440 --> 02:09:15,440
drop. 
Jeez. 

2558
02:09:16,920 --> 02:09:21,680
Dude, that's perfect. 
Yeah, I was like, what was her 

2559
02:09:21,800 --> 02:09:26,840
Herbert doing? 
Herbert was you could call an 

2560
02:09:26,840 --> 02:09:29,160
offensive face mask there. 
It's like they were like, you 

2561
02:09:29,160 --> 02:09:30,960
know what, this one's worse than
the other one. 

2562
02:09:30,960 --> 02:09:33,320
We're calling it on the defense.
What he did was worse. 

2563
02:09:34,520 --> 02:09:36,720
Well, they protect the 
quarterback usually, so. 

2564
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:45,800
That was. 
Get a big, get a big lad play. 

2565
02:09:46,320 --> 02:09:48,520
Yeah, come on, stop giving the 
ball. 

2566
02:09:48,520 --> 02:09:50,240
No, they're in the freaking 
pistol. 

2567
02:09:50,240 --> 02:09:52,080
They're going to hand this off. 
They don't even have that out. 

2568
02:09:52,240 --> 02:09:53,720
Oh, no, he's out there. 
OK, He's in the slot. 

2569
02:09:55,240 --> 02:09:57,440
No check down, no check down, no
check down. 

2570
02:09:57,440 --> 02:10:00,360
Oh my God, why? 
How is Edwards getting so many 

2571
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:01,720
targets too? 
That's the thing. 

2572
02:10:01,720 --> 02:10:05,680
It's like. 
Do do they watch how he plays? 

2573
02:10:05,680 --> 02:10:09,240
Well, still, he has two too 
many. 

2574
02:10:09,680 --> 02:10:11,440
I know he has two catches all 
year. 

2575
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:13,040
I think he has three targets all
season. 

2576
02:10:13,040 --> 02:10:15,280
Yeah, 3 targets and two catches 
all season. 

2577
02:10:15,720 --> 02:10:17,800
He's already got two and one 
catch in this game. 

2578
02:10:24,560 --> 02:10:25,680
There's Ollie Ham bro. 
Nice. 

2579
02:10:26,800 --> 02:10:27,760
All. 
Righty. 

2580
02:10:27,800 --> 02:10:31,720
I love seeing the 6th place 
payout at 230-9490 it's so 

2581
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:33,080
funny. 
Nice. 

2582
02:10:33,680 --> 02:10:35,560
I would take that. 
It's not well-rounded. 

2583
02:10:35,560 --> 02:10:37,040
I could. 
I could overlook. 

2584
02:10:37,040 --> 02:10:38,560
I'd live with it. 
I could live with it. 

2585
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:40,600
Here's a vital play. 
Do you have this? 

2586
02:10:40,760 --> 02:10:42,960
Receiving. 
Oh, we gotta. 

2587
02:10:43,240 --> 02:10:44,200
Probably. 
Look how much we're. 

2588
02:10:44,200 --> 02:10:46,240
Explosive. 
I played him just the fantasy 

2589
02:10:46,240 --> 02:10:47,640
points. 
Might be holding. 

2590
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:50,800
Oh nice. 
It's gonna be OPI or or 

2591
02:10:50,800 --> 02:10:52,600
ineligible. 
As quick as that was on the 

2592
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:56,000
field. 
I think they might have been 

2593
02:10:56,000 --> 02:10:59,520
blocking down field too early. 
I mean like it could be holding,

2594
02:10:59,520 --> 02:11:03,080
but I think it would be OPI. 
Oh, offside, you line up in the 

2595
02:11:03,080 --> 02:11:05,320
neutral zone. 
That makes sense. 

2596
02:11:13,640 --> 02:11:15,360
He's not in the neutral zone. 
Did he jump? 

2597
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:18,160
Oh, he jump. 
Mythology. 

2598
02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:23,200
Nice again. 
Yeah. 

2599
02:11:23,400 --> 02:11:24,960
The first Oh no, Just how? 
Many teams. 

2600
02:11:25,560 --> 02:11:26,920
Let me see. 
The team. 

2601
02:11:27,080 --> 02:11:29,440
Let me see the team. 
Yeah. 

2602
02:11:31,400 --> 02:11:35,480
Jane Daniels concerned about his
elbow, JT. 

2603
02:11:35,480 --> 02:11:38,720
Pretty good running. 
Back to hold the the ball across

2604
02:11:38,720 --> 02:11:40,920
the end zone. 
We've got a puka team in. 

2605
02:11:40,920 --> 02:11:43,240
It's a good team, guys. 
Brian Thomas a good team. 

2606
02:11:43,680 --> 02:11:46,200
I did not mean to see Trey 
McBride and Johnny Smith on this

2607
02:11:46,480 --> 02:11:47,240
team. 
And how about? 

2608
02:11:47,320 --> 02:11:49,360
Ben said it it's. 
A pretty good team. 

2609
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:51,920
He took Trey McBride over Dalton
Kincaid in this. 

2610
02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:56,400
What a poser. 
I bet Kincaid was. 

2611
02:11:56,400 --> 02:11:58,560
Gone even like the Bills did. 
Actually, we can. 

2612
02:11:58,880 --> 02:12:01,080
Find out I got to say. 
It's. 

2613
02:12:01,440 --> 02:12:04,200
Until we can look at the draft. 
Is there no bills on this team? 

2614
02:12:06,360 --> 02:12:08,440
It's the only team he's ever 
drafted with no bills, and it's 

2615
02:12:08,440 --> 02:12:09,680
going to win that whole thing. 
Dude, money. 

2616
02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:12,520
Money changes people, man. 
Yeah, it really does. 

2617
02:12:15,560 --> 02:12:17,480
Liam has been talking about this
team for a. 

2618
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:19,160
While oh hilarious of. 
Course. 

2619
02:12:19,200 --> 02:12:23,560
He has. 
This. 

2620
02:12:23,600 --> 02:12:26,240
Is nobody jerks off to their 
teams better than Liam? 

2621
02:12:26,240 --> 02:12:26,800
No. 
One right? 

2622
02:12:34,080 --> 02:12:37,480
QJ. 
FJ first down flag. 

2623
02:12:41,480 --> 02:12:44,280
The Broncos have not had the 
ball for a really long time, 

2624
02:12:44,280 --> 02:12:48,440
which is frustrating for our 
estimate stuff because of the 

2625
02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:51,480
oh, they had like a quick 3 now 
and then a punt, no. 

2626
02:12:51,520 --> 02:12:52,960
I can't. 
Come on. 

2627
02:12:54,400 --> 02:12:57,760
No same team. 
I don't like this universe guys,

2628
02:12:57,760 --> 02:12:59,280
can we? 
Oh, it's the same. 

2629
02:12:59,400 --> 02:13:02,440
Same. 
Team that keeps winning you're 

2630
02:13:02,440 --> 02:13:08,080
proving how good the team is no 
stop it yo Eddie, I I, I very 

2631
02:13:08,080 --> 02:13:10,240
much appreciate what you've 
added to the community but. 

2632
02:13:10,240 --> 02:13:12,360
Fix your site. 
Fix your. 

2633
02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:17,400
Site, bro. 
Oh my God, it's in second a 

2634
02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:19,360
third time. 
Oh no. 

2635
02:13:19,800 --> 02:13:22,320
No, this is a different team. 
What is the? 

2636
02:13:22,320 --> 02:13:24,760
Different one ETN Robinson 
Quorum. 

2637
02:13:24,760 --> 02:13:26,080
This team's not nearly as 
strong. 

2638
02:13:26,960 --> 02:13:28,960
This is the worst thing that's 
ever happened. 

2639
02:13:28,960 --> 02:13:30,280
To a ship chasing. 
Three good team. 

2640
02:13:30,280 --> 02:13:32,400
We just got Liam three times in 
a row. 

2641
02:13:33,000 --> 02:13:39,280
Lad, lad, lad, lad. 
Yeah, this is bad. 

2642
02:13:39,440 --> 02:13:43,240
He doesn't have Lad right? 
So this is. 

2643
02:13:43,440 --> 02:13:47,560
Ryan says this will get clipped 
by Liam and a skeet on Blue Sky 

2644
02:13:47,560 --> 02:13:50,680
by tomorrow. 
Skeet. 

2645
02:13:50,680 --> 02:13:52,920
Skeet's doing extra work in this
in this. 

2646
02:13:59,720 --> 02:14:02,600
Man, three more yards for Ladd 
to hit that stretch. 

2647
02:14:02,600 --> 02:14:03,880
He's. 
Going to get there. 

2648
02:14:04,680 --> 02:14:07,280
I feel good about that. 
It's still the third quarter. 

2649
02:14:07,880 --> 02:14:10,480
He's there, dude. 
He's had multiple catches in 

2650
02:14:10,480 --> 02:14:11,920
every quarter like they're 
they're in. 

2651
02:14:12,000 --> 02:14:16,040
There's a close. 
No Gus, No Gus, No Gus. 

2652
02:14:18,080 --> 02:14:19,760
Wow. 
Darius Davis. 

2653
02:14:21,240 --> 02:14:26,600
That is not what I wanted. 
Oh, we got a flag. 

2654
02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:28,920
Why is Herbert looking like? 
Yeah, Herbert looked. 

2655
02:14:30,560 --> 02:14:31,920
No, I think he's. 
I think it. 

2656
02:14:31,920 --> 02:14:34,120
Was he didn't have him on his 
BBM team either. 

2657
02:14:34,440 --> 02:14:37,720
He's just really, really high 
from the injection, right? 

2658
02:14:39,320 --> 02:14:41,200
That's. 
Did I do that or am I still 

2659
02:14:41,200 --> 02:14:43,960
seeing things? 
What did? 

2660
02:14:44,240 --> 02:14:49,880
This guy get on our roster. 
Man, that was this. 

2661
02:14:49,880 --> 02:14:51,880
That was an incredible throw. 
That's an. 

2662
02:14:52,560 --> 02:14:55,760
Awesome throw. 
We we meant to play cancer. 

2663
02:14:55,760 --> 02:14:58,000
The touchdown. 
He's really one of the most fun 

2664
02:14:58,000 --> 02:14:59,520
players. 
He's so good, man. 

2665
02:14:59,840 --> 02:15:02,880
It's so much talent. 
Wow. 

2666
02:15:03,400 --> 02:15:06,200
When people talk about arm 
talent, like it's Justin 

2667
02:15:06,200 --> 02:15:10,080
Herbert, man. 
I mean, it's just and Allen and 

2668
02:15:10,080 --> 02:15:12,360
Allen and, yeah, I mean, my 
home's like, oh, these guys have

2669
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:14,400
arm talent. 
But Herbert is, yeah. 

2670
02:15:14,400 --> 02:15:25,240
He's good, yeah. 
Oh my, that's just Palmer. 

2671
02:15:25,480 --> 02:15:32,720
That's Palmer. 
Wow, Palmer, I knew you had it 

2672
02:15:32,720 --> 02:15:34,040
in you. 
I. 

2673
02:15:34,280 --> 02:15:37,920
Literally never would have 
believed he had that in him. 

2674
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:43,040
Until he got on my BBMT, that's 
the only time I started having 

2675
02:15:43,080 --> 02:15:43,600
faith in him. 
I. 

2676
02:15:43,640 --> 02:15:45,880
Was sick. 
I need to see the slomo. 

2677
02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:49,920
On this tweet that I I had no 
idea that John no. 

2678
02:15:50,400 --> 02:15:53,040
Way that's. 
And then sick. 

2679
02:15:53,520 --> 02:15:54,960
Wow. 
And then, wow, look at those 

2680
02:15:55,120 --> 02:15:59,680
toes. 
Dude that is insane. 

2681
02:16:00,240 --> 02:16:03,200
He like he had. 
Such good body control there. 

2682
02:16:03,200 --> 02:16:08,280
He I mean, he didn't even need 
to be as inbounds as he was. 

2683
02:16:08,280 --> 02:16:12,400
It's. 
Like even the bad players are 

2684
02:16:12,400 --> 02:16:18,920
really good in the NFL. 
His own. 

2685
02:16:18,920 --> 02:16:21,760
Tip that that was impressing. 
Impressive there. 

2686
02:16:23,920 --> 02:16:30,040
Man, so let's see the one that 
doesn't involve. 

2687
02:16:31,840 --> 02:16:33,040
Yeah. 
How many guys? 

2688
02:16:34,200 --> 02:16:35,639
Yeah. 
Is Gus in Nothing early? 

2689
02:16:37,480 --> 02:16:40,360
Gus isn't getting there. 
I saw faith. 

2690
02:16:41,360 --> 02:16:46,879
No, I do too, but it's yeah, so 
so a big sweat here because I I 

2691
02:16:46,879 --> 02:16:50,200
mean, I think lads, let's you 
know, knock on wood going to get

2692
02:16:50,240 --> 02:16:53,240
another catch here, but estimate
man, if we could get him popping

2693
02:16:53,240 --> 02:16:56,120
off a run because this one, this
is a sick one. 

2694
02:16:56,120 --> 02:16:58,760
This was a 50 to to 1400 burger 
here. 

2695
02:17:00,799 --> 02:17:03,879
We need the Broncos to score so 
they stop using Gus. 

2696
02:17:04,000 --> 02:17:06,000
There's enough time. 
This is the drive where we could

2697
02:17:06,000 --> 02:17:08,120
get that they got to go to 
estimate a little bit. 

2698
02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:12,240
It looks like they're best. 
Bad. 

2699
02:17:12,480 --> 02:17:15,639
But are. 
We only need, what is it, 14 

2700
02:17:15,639 --> 02:17:16,959
yards? 
I mean, if they go to one first 

2701
02:17:16,959 --> 02:17:18,680
down and he gets like an 8 yard 
carry, we're going to be like, 

2702
02:17:18,680 --> 02:17:21,760
all right, I'm in good shape. 
Yeah. 

2703
02:17:24,760 --> 02:17:27,480
All right, back to work. 
Do we need any more men's 

2704
02:17:29,600 --> 02:17:31,240
catches or everything? 
I don't know, man, I'm a little 

2705
02:17:31,240 --> 02:17:34,959
bit shook. 
Just Liam's just popping up here

2706
02:17:34,959 --> 02:17:36,000
in the top. 
Three, yeah, I know. 

2707
02:17:36,040 --> 02:17:38,080
I don't think I can handle 
anymore like you know. 

2708
02:17:41,280 --> 02:17:45,160
I heard, I heard a conspiracy 
that Liam actually has been 

2709
02:17:45,160 --> 02:17:49,920
sliding PD some $100 bills under
the table to overweight his team

2710
02:17:49,920 --> 02:17:52,680
in The Sims. 
That makes sense. 

2711
02:17:52,680 --> 02:17:57,320
I mean, that one team doesn't 
look like it needed it. 

2712
02:17:58,120 --> 02:18:00,879
That was a good team. 
Just that now you're 

2713
02:18:00,879 --> 02:18:03,240
masturbating to this team. 
It's a good team, man. 

2714
02:18:03,480 --> 02:18:07,840
There's Nick badge, bro Hooper. 
I respect The Sims, you know, I 

2715
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:17,000
respect The Sims. 
If you're my turtle, the 

2716
02:18:17,000 --> 02:18:20,480
dopamine rush for me is 
literally has nothing to do with

2717
02:18:20,480 --> 02:18:23,040
like, oh wow, you have a good. 
It's just like, oh, I recognize 

2718
02:18:23,040 --> 02:18:23,440
that name. 
I. 

2719
02:18:26,040 --> 02:18:27,920
Know it really is. 
Who do I know? 

2720
02:18:33,639 --> 02:18:41,160
Astro Mang. 
Yeah, when we called it a Liam 

2721
02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:43,520
year, what we really meant was a
Liam decade. 

2722
02:18:45,879 --> 02:18:58,639
I guess we did. 
All right, let's get a Mims 

2723
02:18:58,639 --> 02:19:05,840
Catch an estimate jaunt followed
by a Sutton TD. 

2724
02:19:14,680 --> 02:19:24,120
Yeah, So what next week is? 
Come on, we should know. 

2725
02:19:24,120 --> 02:19:25,120
We accept. 
She or no? 

2726
02:19:25,120 --> 02:19:29,120
So Wednesday is Christmas and 
then so we have Seahawks Bears 

2727
02:19:31,639 --> 02:19:33,400
as our final ship cast next 
week. 

2728
02:19:36,480 --> 02:19:39,200
So how many Seahawks and Bears 
do you guys get through? 

2729
02:19:44,680 --> 02:19:48,440
I don't know what I have for 
those I'm I'm bummed that I 

2730
02:19:48,440 --> 02:19:52,880
don't have a a JSN team. 
I don't have any JSN. 

2731
02:19:52,880 --> 02:19:55,880
Yeah, I had a JSN on that one 
that got bumped the the bump. 

2732
02:19:56,280 --> 02:19:58,720
On DK, yeah. 
Let's go estimate. 

2733
02:19:58,720 --> 02:20:01,000
Come on buddy. 
Come on. 

2734
02:20:01,560 --> 02:20:03,800
I swear to God, just let him 
have one more carry 

2735
02:20:03,800 --> 02:20:06,600
back-to-back. 
Could you not Jake him like he 

2736
02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:08,920
needs his like? 
Let him get holler or something.

2737
02:20:10,840 --> 02:20:13,720
It looks like you might be 
standing because you took you 

2738
02:20:13,720 --> 02:20:15,760
wrote at one point that he was 
one of your highest drafted 

2739
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:17,240
players, right? 
Who? 

2740
02:20:17,400 --> 02:20:20,440
And he's been good sharps. 
Yeah, I don't. 

2741
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:22,920
I don't have him on on any teams
either. 

2742
02:20:22,920 --> 02:20:24,800
Walker practiced in full today, 
guys. 

2743
02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:28,080
He did. 
Yeah, and did Did sharps 

2744
02:20:28,080 --> 02:20:29,320
practice? 
Nope. 

2745
02:20:29,560 --> 02:20:33,880
Yeah, I don't think so. 
Man, he's like myself, Andrew 

2746
02:20:34,040 --> 02:20:38,040
Avante. 
This is ridiculous. 

2747
02:20:38,800 --> 02:20:40,800
What? 
Is he did get, he did get 5 

2748
02:20:40,800 --> 02:20:43,040
yards there. 
So now we're down to 9 is all we

2749
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:46,960
need. 
Is that a backwards no, no, no, 

2750
02:20:46,960 --> 02:20:51,480
it got bad, OK. 
I just I also like how many 

2751
02:20:51,480 --> 02:20:53,960
other I haven't. 
I heard like running backs talk 

2752
02:20:53,960 --> 02:20:56,160
about it too, about getting in a
rhythm with. 

2753
02:20:56,320 --> 02:20:58,760
Harry yes, yeah, that's. 
A That's what I'm saying. 

2754
02:20:58,760 --> 02:20:59,440
Yeah. 
Like it. 

2755
02:21:00,000 --> 02:21:02,080
It's really infuriating. 
You've never heard of Sean 

2756
02:21:02,080 --> 02:21:03,440
Payton back? 
Talk about that, though. 

2757
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:10,640
It's really weird. 
I mean this, this is strange 

2758
02:21:10,640 --> 02:21:14,080
even for Peyton. 
Peyton, I don't recall when he 

2759
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:18,200
had like Ingram and Camara and 
everything that he was rotating 

2760
02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:21,560
them every snap. 
No like this seems excessive. 

2761
02:21:26,280 --> 02:21:28,040
He almost. 
Seems on tilt he hasn't. 

2762
02:21:28,040 --> 02:21:32,000
Gotten enough of the guys he 
wanted and he's just like, I'm 

2763
02:21:32,000 --> 02:21:35,720
rotating them every time to make
sure I get the guys enough snaps

2764
02:21:36,920 --> 02:21:38,200
and he's throwing to Michael 
Burton. 

2765
02:21:38,360 --> 02:21:41,560
This is the this is such a 
Broncos thing that we Burton 

2766
02:21:41,560 --> 02:21:45,000
already has a TD catch. 
Nate Adkins has two catches now.

2767
02:21:45,000 --> 02:21:47,440
Burton just got his second. 
They've 2 full backs that have 

2768
02:21:47,440 --> 02:21:50,880
two catches at this game each. 
John Payton is in his Hunter 

2769
02:21:50,880 --> 02:21:52,600
Lupke era right now. 
He's like. 

2770
02:21:53,200 --> 02:21:56,760
That's exactly what he is. 
Is he practicing to be the next 

2771
02:21:56,760 --> 02:21:58,000
Cowboys? 
Coach, we should have just 

2772
02:21:58,000 --> 02:22:00,800
picked off all the hires. 
Like give us a random Bronco. 

2773
02:22:00,800 --> 02:22:02,760
We just take the hire. 
That's right. 

2774
02:22:03,640 --> 02:22:06,360
Anything that's like 5.5 yards. 
Yeah, that's a higher. 

2775
02:22:06,360 --> 02:22:08,480
Yeah. 
Oh, you idiots sit underdog. 

2776
02:22:08,520 --> 02:22:14,400
Let us have Michael Barton, Nate
Adkins, you fools. 

2777
02:22:16,240 --> 02:22:18,760
Is that estimate? 
Oh, no, it's it's Watson. 

2778
02:22:19,000 --> 02:22:21,720
It's Watson. 
Yeah, we got to get all three of

2779
02:22:21,720 --> 02:22:28,440
them. 
Mims, Mims, Oh, Mims, calm point

2780
02:22:28,440 --> 02:22:30,240
there. 
No, that that was that was on 

2781
02:22:30,240 --> 02:22:33,760
the dude. 
He was behind the defense. 

2782
02:22:34,080 --> 02:22:35,960
I know maybe he still should 
have caught it, but that ball's 

2783
02:22:35,960 --> 02:22:42,760
got to get farther down field. 
That was horrible. 

2784
02:22:43,640 --> 02:22:47,080
Nice to get the ball out. 
There, he's got 5 yards of 

2785
02:22:47,120 --> 02:22:51,240
separation. 
Yeah, he was just running into 

2786
02:22:51,240 --> 02:22:53,280
the end zone. 
Look at the ball skills. 

2787
02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:56,440
Yeah, that's, come on, That's 
not on man's bat. 

2788
02:22:57,400 --> 02:22:59,280
It's not good. 
Oh, Nick's saying. 

2789
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:01,880
My bad. 
Oh, Nick's is saying on me like 

2790
02:23:01,880 --> 02:23:03,280
it's on me. 
He went up for that. 

2791
02:23:03,280 --> 02:23:09,080
Like I would like just like, 
like, come on. 

2792
02:23:10,160 --> 02:23:14,520
Oh, Javonte. 2nd and 10. 
Run 1 1/2 yards in a cloud of 

2793
02:23:14,520 --> 02:23:16,080
dust every time. 
What are we doing? 

2794
02:23:16,080 --> 02:23:20,880
Yeah. 
This is crazy. 9 yards for 

2795
02:23:20,880 --> 02:23:22,320
estimate. 
Obviously we get there throw. 

2796
02:23:22,400 --> 02:23:27,840
I agree God, he had so much 
separation. 

2797
02:23:27,840 --> 02:23:31,760
That would have been our 4th 
catch and I have him in in 

2798
02:23:31,760 --> 02:23:33,800
something and I was looking at 
it and I was like, man, if he 

2799
02:23:33,800 --> 02:23:35,960
gets a big play later, like 
that's that's the main reason I 

2800
02:23:35,960 --> 02:23:38,280
responded or like. 
Yeah me too. 

2801
02:23:38,280 --> 02:23:41,800
I I have him in like 3 teams and
he's like unique in all the pods

2802
02:23:41,800 --> 02:23:44,200
I think. 
Right, yeah, I have him in one 

2803
02:23:44,200 --> 02:23:48,520
of my two BBMS and I and I it's 
like not it's thin it at flex. 

2804
02:23:48,520 --> 02:23:52,440
It's a David Montgomery team and
Jonathan Brooks team, so like, 

2805
02:23:52,440 --> 02:23:54,720
if Mims actually had that long 
TD right there, he would have 

2806
02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:57,040
had a super usable week. 
It would have been nice. 

2807
02:23:58,560 --> 02:24:00,000
Yeah, I have like I have a 
couple. 

2808
02:24:00,160 --> 02:24:01,160
Of long. 
Teams too. 

2809
02:24:01,280 --> 02:24:04,640
Because then once we get if we 
get Broncos in a negative game 

2810
02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:06,840
script, the estimate stuff is 
going to be shot. 

2811
02:24:09,720 --> 02:24:13,640
I mean, they they literally have
a role for estimate in its first

2812
02:24:13,640 --> 02:24:16,400
carry on every drive in it, 
nothing else. 

2813
02:24:16,600 --> 02:24:18,200
That's literally his role on the
team. 

2814
02:24:22,520 --> 02:24:24,760
It's crazy because he looked 
really good early. 

2815
02:24:24,960 --> 02:24:27,360
This is the Sean Payton stuff 
where this is the stuff that's 

2816
02:24:27,360 --> 02:24:31,280
madding about him. 
He over thinks it a little bit 

2817
02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:33,920
because he got other carries at 
first drive because he had the 

2818
02:24:33,920 --> 02:24:37,920
touchdown at the end as well. 
It's like he writes out his 

2819
02:24:37,920 --> 02:24:42,600
entire like plan and will not 
right go off script no matter 

2820
02:24:42,600 --> 02:24:45,400
what happens. 
It's like, Nope. 2nd Dr. He had 

2821
02:24:45,400 --> 02:24:48,520
two 9 yard carries by the end of
the second drive. 

2822
02:24:48,520 --> 02:24:52,760
Hit 18, 16 rushing yards on the 
1st Dr. 18 on the second. 

2823
02:24:52,760 --> 02:24:55,400
He had 34 rushing yards by the 
end of the second drive. 

2824
02:24:55,520 --> 02:25:03,360
Let's fucking go. 6th place. 
Yeah, chasing Dean, pull it up. 

2825
02:25:03,360 --> 02:25:09,920
Let's take a look. 
The two 39490, the 239 shut the 

2826
02:25:09,960 --> 02:25:14,000
street. 
It's a good score. 239 Yeah, he 

2827
02:25:14,040 --> 02:25:16,000
scored. 
Oh, that's the money I couldn't 

2828
02:25:16,000 --> 02:25:20,360
see. 
What is sixteenths? 

2829
02:25:20,360 --> 02:25:22,160
Familiar. 
I I couldn't see you. 

2830
02:25:22,160 --> 02:25:24,720
Did Liam score in the top ten in
this or is he just like? 

2831
02:25:24,720 --> 02:25:25,960
No, yeah, in this one, he just. 
Yeah. 

2832
02:25:26,120 --> 02:25:29,800
I wonder. 
Why I'm not showing? 

2833
02:25:29,840 --> 02:25:30,880
Up. 
What an idiot. 

2834
02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:34,840
Team's not looking so hot now is
it buddy? 

2835
02:25:36,960 --> 02:25:42,000
Wow, the demon time out. 
Look at that, Deshaun Watson 

2836
02:25:42,840 --> 02:25:44,960
could be the guy you. 
Need to win PPF What? 

2837
02:25:45,960 --> 02:25:47,000
If he's the guy, you. 
Need. 

2838
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:50,400
I do like that it's a Drake May 
team for you guys so. 

2839
02:25:50,880 --> 02:25:55,400
Yeah, that is fun. 
The team I have in the semis is 

2840
02:25:55,400 --> 02:25:59,040
not a Drake May team. 
I have a few Derrick May teams 

2841
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:00,800
in other. 
Not a BBM, but. 

2842
02:26:02,200 --> 02:26:03,960
Yeah, I have a DK Mellie. 
That's Drake May. 

2843
02:26:05,440 --> 02:26:07,320
I I literally bought this for a 
second. 

2844
02:26:07,320 --> 02:26:09,840
Please Scroll down because if 
Liam is at 11th that I had to 

2845
02:26:09,840 --> 02:26:14,520
look. 
This is a nice SIM. 

2846
02:26:14,520 --> 02:26:16,120
It's. 
A good one. 

2847
02:26:16,240 --> 02:26:19,600
You you don't get greedy, you 
just you just lock up your 6th 

2848
02:26:19,600 --> 02:26:21,040
place finish and you move on. 
Yeah, that's. 

2849
02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:22,720
Right. 
Good, good sight. 

2850
02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:24,040
I'm good sight. 
Excellent. 

2851
02:26:24,120 --> 02:26:25,120
Fixing the sight. 
Good stuff. 

2852
02:26:25,480 --> 02:26:26,680
Thanks. 
Appreciate that. 

2853
02:26:27,040 --> 02:26:29,200
Awesome. 
I still I still need to click 

2854
02:26:29,200 --> 02:26:31,120
when I get off of this till I 
hear. 

2855
02:26:45,720 --> 02:26:49,200
Yeah, Pat was always going to 
get a Drake made Jalen Warren. 

2856
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:52,680
Rico Dowdell team there. 
It is so funny because it's like

2857
02:26:52,800 --> 02:26:56,280
we all have our biases, but to 
see them shine on a May 2nd 

2858
02:26:56,320 --> 02:26:59,280
draft is hilarious. 
I know, I know. 

2859
02:27:00,560 --> 02:27:02,000
Yeah. 
I mean, it's also got Javonte, 

2860
02:27:02,080 --> 02:27:05,040
which is, which is me. 
I had Chase Brown, right too, I 

2861
02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:06,360
think. 
Yeah, I had Chase Brown. 

2862
02:27:06,480 --> 02:27:08,120
Yeah, probably which you guys 
got us on. 

2863
02:27:11,040 --> 02:27:14,400
It had, oh, we spent half the 
stream arguing about Brian 

2864
02:27:14,400 --> 02:27:16,560
Thomas. 
It did not, was not on the team 

2865
02:27:16,560 --> 02:27:22,080
and we never or argue about him.
I was out with the idea of 

2866
02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:26,520
drafting him because I think 
Jaden Reed felt to us in the 

2867
02:27:26,520 --> 02:27:28,280
sixth. 
I think I probably would have 

2868
02:27:28,280 --> 02:27:31,040
pushed us to try to take Thomas 
there, but he it was never a 

2869
02:27:31,040 --> 02:27:32,800
discussion. 
We were just talking about the 

2870
02:27:32,800 --> 02:27:35,160
rookie wide receiver prices. 
Yeah. 

2871
02:27:37,880 --> 02:27:41,200
The Brian Thomas thing is so 
funny for me. 

2872
02:27:41,200 --> 02:27:45,640
I like, I'm certainly wouldn't 
chalk it as a win at all, but I 

2873
02:27:45,640 --> 02:27:49,440
got, I had a subscriber mention 
that they were, they're in there

2874
02:27:49,440 --> 02:27:51,320
like semis of their home league 
or whatever. 

2875
02:27:51,320 --> 02:27:54,320
They're super excited and 
they're like, you know, a lot 

2876
02:27:54,360 --> 02:27:55,960
you we get these messages this 
time of year. 

2877
02:27:55,960 --> 02:27:58,280
Subscribers are really grateful 
and, you know, it's all thanks 

2878
02:27:58,280 --> 02:28:00,040
to you and all the stuff. 
And he's like you, you 

2879
02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:02,800
specifically got me on Brian 
Thomas because his price got 

2880
02:28:02,800 --> 02:28:05,200
lower and then I had him as a 
target in August. 

2881
02:28:05,200 --> 02:28:08,280
But like, I spent all off season
on ship chasing, being pretty 

2882
02:28:08,280 --> 02:28:11,720
out on him in basketball in the 
like 60s, right. 

2883
02:28:11,720 --> 02:28:13,080
Yeah, yeah. 
I didn't want to take him over 

2884
02:28:13,080 --> 02:28:15,520
like Kittle specifically. 
I was like, I don't look like he

2885
02:28:15,520 --> 02:28:18,280
might flip. 
Oh, Doomsday. 

2886
02:28:18,280 --> 02:28:22,120
And you were like, that's dumb. 
And you know, and I wanted the 

2887
02:28:22,160 --> 02:28:27,040
the three vets, the three vets 
over him, which were Rashi Rice,

2888
02:28:27,400 --> 02:28:30,560
JSN and Deonte Johnson, which 
the last one didn't work out, 

2889
02:28:32,520 --> 02:28:36,280
but I was like, those guys need 
to be over BTJ and LAD. 

2890
02:28:36,920 --> 02:28:38,480
And I mean, a couple of those 
were right. 

2891
02:28:38,520 --> 02:28:40,760
But like JSN looks good. 
I mean, I don't know. 

2892
02:28:40,760 --> 02:28:43,200
Brian Thomas looks like he's 
that's not true. 

2893
02:28:43,280 --> 02:28:45,960
Like it's not, it wasn't right 
to take JSN over him. 

2894
02:28:45,960 --> 02:28:50,920
Brian Thomas looks like he's the
rookie late season eruption that

2895
02:28:50,920 --> 02:28:53,120
we're always searching for. 
I wish I was on him the whole 

2896
02:28:53,120 --> 02:28:56,160
offseason like I I, I counted as
a mess that I was ever like, no,

2897
02:28:56,160 --> 02:28:57,680
you got on him. 
You got on him when the punch 

2898
02:28:57,680 --> 02:28:59,520
went down, which is the right 
way to play like you, you 

2899
02:28:59,520 --> 02:29:02,600
weren't as I mean, his prospect 
profile was very boom bust. 

2900
02:29:02,880 --> 02:29:05,440
It's just like it was it was 
just a very boom bust prospect 

2901
02:29:05,440 --> 02:29:07,240
profile like this is three 
years. 

2902
02:29:07,320 --> 02:29:08,520
Only the third year was really 
good. 

2903
02:29:08,720 --> 02:29:11,800
Somebody asked me about it in my
signals gold Q&A stream this 

2904
02:29:11,800 --> 02:29:14,280
week and I was was talking 
through it and I was like, you 

2905
02:29:14,280 --> 02:29:16,200
know, it's really similar to Cal
Pitts where you like you get the

2906
02:29:16,200 --> 02:29:18,720
draft capital. 
It's three years, it's the third

2907
02:29:18,720 --> 02:29:21,280
year's really good. 
There's production there, but 

2908
02:29:21,280 --> 02:29:25,120
like, I mean, and and look, it 
didn't work out for Pitts. 

2909
02:29:25,120 --> 02:29:27,120
Like there's that's that's the 
risk because you're like, 

2910
02:29:27,120 --> 02:29:29,680
there's not enough of a sample 
here to be certain that he's 

2911
02:29:29,680 --> 02:29:32,400
that good, but he's that good. 
Like Brian Thomas is that good? 

2912
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:34,160
He's really fucking good at 
football. 

2913
02:29:34,360 --> 02:29:36,640
I think part of it for him was 
you had the neighbors element 

2914
02:29:36,640 --> 02:29:37,640
where like. 
Neighbors looks. 

2915
02:29:37,640 --> 02:29:42,160
Like an absolute superstar. 
And he produced, what, 17 

2916
02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:45,360
touchdowns alongside that guy. 
So you're yeah, if if neighbors 

2917
02:29:45,360 --> 02:29:47,720
this is is amazing, then he's 
probably really good. 

2918
02:29:48,560 --> 02:29:49,720
Yeah. 
For sure. 

2919
02:29:49,760 --> 02:29:51,920
Get him, get him. 
Let's go. 

2920
02:29:54,160 --> 02:29:56,960
Two yards in a cloud at us, 
although that's two more yards 

2921
02:29:56,960 --> 02:29:58,040
closer. 
It was one. 

2922
02:29:58,400 --> 02:30:00,160
How many are they going to 
fucking give him? 

2923
02:30:01,360 --> 02:30:03,480
Yeah, this. 
Is not a sweat, whether it's one

2924
02:30:03,480 --> 02:30:07,280
or two yards. 
I know this under's not been 

2925
02:30:07,280 --> 02:30:09,440
fun. 
I mean, we were going to take 

2926
02:30:09,440 --> 02:30:12,120
the under on on like what was 
that? 

2927
02:30:12,120 --> 02:30:14,320
Rushes And I think he's already 
gone over that. 

2928
02:30:14,320 --> 02:30:16,920
At least he's way over the 
efficiency of the. 

2929
02:30:17,040 --> 02:30:19,200
Way, yeah, at least. 
At least you went on the yards. 

2930
02:30:24,520 --> 02:30:27,640
01 yard. 
But I was really confident they 

2931
02:30:27,640 --> 02:30:30,360
were not going to run this much.
They've run a lot in this game. 

2932
02:30:31,680 --> 02:30:36,560
They're talking on like the 
mainstream, like fantasy, like I

2933
02:30:36,560 --> 02:30:40,560
don't know, network show when I 
had it on the background getting

2934
02:30:41,000 --> 02:30:44,000
getting ready, like how the 
Chargers haven't been running as

2935
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:45,680
much and they're like they need 
to get back to the run. 

2936
02:30:45,680 --> 02:30:48,320
They're talking about getting 
back to the run more and getting

2937
02:30:48,320 --> 02:30:50,240
back to their roots and. 
Sure. 

2938
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:53,440
You know, that's the thing. 
They've really abandoned it. 

2939
02:30:53,440 --> 02:30:56,840
So it makes sense that then then
you think you need to get back 

2940
02:30:56,840 --> 02:31:00,400
to it. 
But I mean, look, like, look at 

2941
02:31:00,400 --> 02:31:04,760
the box score guys, 11 for 28. 
That's Gus Edwards's rushing 

2942
02:31:04,760 --> 02:31:06,360
line. 
That's not what you're just 

2943
02:31:06,360 --> 02:31:08,480
giving up downs. 
Now you're at 3rd and 9:00 

2944
02:31:08,480 --> 02:31:10,600
because you ran on 1st and 10 
for one yard and then you got a 

2945
02:31:10,600 --> 02:31:13,680
ball and knocked down and OK, 
third and long set yourself up 

2946
02:31:13,680 --> 02:31:16,560
great. 
Can't just give up downs in the 

2947
02:31:16,560 --> 02:31:17,040
NFL. 
Look. 

2948
02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:18,240
At that. 
Wow. 

2949
02:31:18,760 --> 02:31:21,360
Like you literally might lose 
this game because you ran on 1st

2950
02:31:21,360 --> 02:31:22,880
and 10 there. 
That's The funny thing about the

2951
02:31:22,880 --> 02:31:26,320
NFL, right? 
Where it's like there's a whole 

2952
02:31:26,520 --> 02:31:31,320
thing of like, if you can't run,
then like the the you'll be 

2953
02:31:31,320 --> 02:31:34,000
predictable and it'll be that's 
like, that's all true. 

2954
02:31:34,560 --> 02:31:37,560
But the solution isn't to just 
force a terrible running game. 

2955
02:31:37,760 --> 02:31:40,440
Like if you if you can't run, 
then you can't run. 

2956
02:31:40,920 --> 02:31:44,080
So don't run. 
Pat Yeah, you got to do like 

2957
02:31:44,080 --> 02:31:46,560
what what Peyton's been doing 
where you start doing a lot of 

2958
02:31:46,560 --> 02:31:48,760
really creative shit you throw 
to your full backs as your run 

2959
02:31:48,760 --> 02:31:50,320
game. 
Like, sure, honest God. 

2960
02:31:50,680 --> 02:31:52,360
But like, yeah, that's what 
Miami's doing. 

2961
02:31:52,360 --> 02:31:55,440
Miami's Miami's been efficient. 
They they sucked last week, but 

2962
02:31:55,440 --> 02:31:59,680
they've been efficient generally
despite HN has the lowest 

2963
02:31:59,800 --> 02:32:02,080
rushers ever expected of any 
running back in the league. 

2964
02:32:03,200 --> 02:32:06,400
And yet there's they're getting 
production out of out of a Chan 

2965
02:32:06,400 --> 02:32:08,360
through the passing game, out of
Jonnu Smith. 

2966
02:32:08,880 --> 02:32:11,200
Tyree kills numbers the way 
down, but he's still productive 

2967
02:32:11,200 --> 02:32:14,600
relative to normal receivers. 
It's all run game extension 

2968
02:32:14,600 --> 02:32:16,520
stuff. 
They can't walk in inside the 

2969
02:32:16,520 --> 02:32:19,000
tackles, so they throw out wide 
and then they run out there. 

2970
02:32:19,200 --> 02:32:21,600
But it's high success rate. 
It's the concept of running the 

2971
02:32:21,600 --> 02:32:24,000
ball, setting yourself up with 
the chains. 

2972
02:32:24,320 --> 02:32:26,400
But you don't have to just keep 
calling runs up the middle to 

2973
02:32:26,400 --> 02:32:28,240
Gus Edwards. 
No one's making you do that. 

2974
02:32:28,640 --> 02:32:30,480
Tua. 
Tua has the highest success rate

2975
02:32:30,480 --> 02:32:31,920
of any quarterback in the 
league. 

2976
02:32:33,440 --> 02:32:36,680
That makes sense. 
I mean, but these, these, it's 

2977
02:32:36,680 --> 02:32:38,880
terrible. 
You watch it and it's like slow.

2978
02:32:39,480 --> 02:32:41,760
It takes forever. 
But when you say. 

2979
02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:43,840
Success rate, it makes sense 
because it's, it's it's 

2980
02:32:43,840 --> 02:32:46,680
literally so much of it 
literally as just a quick throw 

2981
02:32:46,680 --> 02:32:48,120
to the to the permit. 
Yeah. 

2982
02:32:48,120 --> 02:32:51,800
And then it's a catch and it's 
an insanely quick time to throw.

2983
02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:54,760
They have a super low pressure 
rate because they get the ball 

2984
02:32:54,760 --> 02:32:57,440
out immediately. 
It's it's I don't like it. 

2985
02:32:57,440 --> 02:33:01,440
It's not fun, but it's because 
you're kind of like they took 

2986
02:33:01,440 --> 02:33:03,760
their run game and they put it 
into the passing game. 

2987
02:33:03,760 --> 02:33:04,480
It's sharp. 
Yeah. 

2988
02:33:04,640 --> 02:33:07,080
You know, they they found a way 
to get the same type. 

2989
02:33:07,080 --> 02:33:09,280
You can't walk inside. 
So we'll just get the ball to 

2990
02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:12,320
the perimeter and it's it's 
really high catch rate stuff. 

2991
02:33:12,320 --> 02:33:15,320
Really high success rate stuff. 
Yes, yeah. 

2992
02:33:15,320 --> 02:33:18,480
I mean, like, great. 
It's better than running Gus 

2993
02:33:18,480 --> 02:33:20,560
Edwards into the line on 1st and
10 for one yard. 

2994
02:33:20,560 --> 02:33:22,800
Probably a lot better than 
running Gus Edwards into the 

2995
02:33:22,800 --> 02:33:24,920
line. 
You don't want like second and 

2996
02:33:24,920 --> 02:33:26,240
nine. 
You've done something wrong. 

2997
02:33:26,240 --> 02:33:29,520
I mean like you either can run 
or you can't. 

2998
02:33:30,800 --> 02:33:33,280
Yeah. 
I'd rather, I mean, I would 

2999
02:33:33,360 --> 02:33:35,240
rather have second and 10 than 
second and 9:00. 

3000
02:33:35,240 --> 02:33:37,320
But like, at least that says, 
like, you tried to throw the 

3001
02:33:37,320 --> 02:33:39,080
ball and you had an 
incompletion, you know? 

3002
02:33:40,120 --> 02:33:41,200
Yeah. 
But they're wearing down the 

3003
02:33:41,360 --> 02:33:43,160
defense guys. 
They're wearing them down. 

3004
02:33:43,160 --> 02:33:46,280
They're getting tired. 
Wearing down Gus Edwards, I 

3005
02:33:46,320 --> 02:33:47,800
know. 
They're wearing down me. 

3006
02:33:48,720 --> 02:33:52,040
Gus is wearing Blake Watson to 
come in for him, watching that 

3007
02:33:52,040 --> 02:33:57,480
line go up 1 yard at a time. 
All right, we need to direct all

3008
02:33:57,480 --> 02:34:03,480
our energy to a Marvin Mims 
catch in Audrick estimate rush 

3009
02:34:03,480 --> 02:34:07,080
we. 
Know we're going to get an 

3010
02:34:07,080 --> 02:34:08,600
estimate rush on the 1st play of
the drive. 

3011
02:34:08,800 --> 02:34:11,480
So I'm already worried that that
thesis is going to get blown up 

3012
02:34:11,480 --> 02:34:13,000
here. 
Yeah, it might. 

3013
02:34:20,320 --> 02:34:22,800
Man, no moon shot with that kind
of fog in LA. 

3014
02:34:24,600 --> 02:34:28,440
Gus's long carry is 6 yards 
still that. 

3015
02:34:28,440 --> 02:34:29,760
Was like I had looked at that 
one. 

3016
02:34:29,760 --> 02:34:32,480
So that was in the pick em and 
you could bet under on his 

3017
02:34:32,480 --> 02:34:35,440
longest rush at 9:00 and. 1/2 
That's great. 

3018
02:34:37,560 --> 02:34:39,880
But again, one of those 
miserable swap, we did that once

3019
02:34:39,880 --> 02:34:42,760
with the the Kyron Williams, or 
I guess it was Kyron Williams 

3020
02:34:42,760 --> 02:34:45,880
versus Aaron Jones. 
That's right, yeah. 

3021
02:34:46,000 --> 02:34:47,280
Yeah. 
And we also did one with like a 

3022
02:34:47,280 --> 02:34:50,040
Noah Fant long reception, but we
lost that one I think, didn't 

3023
02:34:50,040 --> 02:34:50,760
we? 
We did. 

3024
02:34:50,760 --> 02:34:52,160
That's why it why I remember, 
Yeah. 

3025
02:34:52,720 --> 02:34:55,280
Yeah, I remember the Fant 1 
where we had a long reception 

3026
02:34:55,280 --> 02:34:59,360
verse Fant, but there was like a
a gap and then Fant had like a 

3027
02:34:59,360 --> 02:35:01,120
15 yarder and we're like oh, 
we're fucked. 

3028
02:35:01,120 --> 02:35:03,400
Do you remember that? 
That one sucked too? 

3029
02:35:03,560 --> 02:35:06,280
Yeah, like a six yard gap. 
And then it was like, oh, we're 

3030
02:35:06,280 --> 02:35:08,680
screwed. 
Come on, that's a brutal sack to

3031
02:35:08,680 --> 02:35:09,720
take on 1st. 
Down. 

3032
02:35:09,720 --> 02:35:14,080
It's not good. 
Estimate out there too, and it's

3033
02:35:14,080 --> 02:35:16,840
like, come on, if we're going to
lose. 8 so that's on next man he

3034
02:35:16,840 --> 02:35:18,880
had a couple options that was 
spin zone. 

3035
02:35:18,880 --> 02:35:21,360
If they can get the first down, 
they will run the ball on the 

3036
02:35:21,360 --> 02:35:25,680
1st down after they convert they
will they he Peyton got behind 

3037
02:35:25,680 --> 02:35:27,640
the sticks here. 
If they can get out of this and 

3038
02:35:27,640 --> 02:35:30,560
get a first down, he will run on
1st and 10 to estimate. 

3039
02:35:30,560 --> 02:35:33,280
I'm that's a terrible sack yeah 
it's not good. 

3040
02:35:34,640 --> 02:35:38,680
The ball's got to come out. 
You can throw it at his feet. 

3041
02:35:38,720 --> 02:35:40,960
You got to just lower the arm 
angle, get it around him, throw 

3042
02:35:40,960 --> 02:35:42,920
at his feet, incomplete. 
It's not that hard to do, 

3043
02:35:42,920 --> 02:35:43,440
honestly. 
Wow. 

3044
02:35:43,440 --> 02:35:46,160
Estimate he didn't come off the 
field Blake they're. 

3045
02:35:46,160 --> 02:35:47,840
Not going to run it on 2nd and 
20 though. 

3046
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:50,280
Yeah, they. 
Are Oh, they did. 

3047
02:35:50,560 --> 02:35:54,200
Go, go, go. 
Oh, we got eight close. 

3048
02:35:55,480 --> 02:35:56,400
We need a nine. 
You're. 

3049
02:35:57,480 --> 02:36:00,280
Going to be so close. 
I think. 

3050
02:36:00,720 --> 02:36:02,880
He's he's, he's one. 
He's too short. 

3051
02:36:02,880 --> 02:36:03,880
He's at 40. 
Eight. 

3052
02:36:03,880 --> 02:36:07,560
Oh shit. 
Are you I? 

3053
02:36:10,040 --> 02:36:13,280
Hate this. 
Oh, Javonte is in. 

3054
02:36:13,840 --> 02:36:15,440
No. 
Why? 

3055
02:36:15,440 --> 02:36:17,640
Well, if they're not going to 
run it on 3rd and third team. 

3056
02:36:17,640 --> 02:36:19,080
Yeah, they got to pick up the 
first. 

3057
02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:20,840
Yeah. 
Here, I want Javonte in here 

3058
02:36:20,840 --> 02:36:22,520
because they're going to throw 
then they're more likely to go 

3059
02:36:22,520 --> 02:36:24,000
back to estimate if they get the
first. 

3060
02:36:24,000 --> 02:36:26,720
I'm not going to just leave the 
estimate in the whole drive 

3061
02:36:28,200 --> 02:36:31,160
basically shown. 
They won't ever do that. 

3062
02:36:31,800 --> 02:36:33,480
Oh, get up there. 
Get up now. 

3063
02:36:33,560 --> 02:36:35,400
We can go for it. 
Let's go for it. 

3064
02:36:35,440 --> 02:36:38,720
Yep. 
Yeah, we're at 4th and 6th now 

3065
02:36:38,720 --> 02:36:40,280
from the 50. 
We're going for this. 

3066
02:36:40,280 --> 02:36:44,400
We're going let's. 
Go with the efficient guy, 

3067
02:36:44,400 --> 02:36:47,520
please. 
They're throwing here. 

3068
02:36:48,320 --> 02:36:51,160
Yeah, no, I mean, that's that's 
why I ran on 2nd down. 

3069
02:36:51,160 --> 02:36:53,440
That's why he has this 
underneath option on 3rd down. 

3070
02:36:53,440 --> 02:36:56,240
It's to set up a 4 down 
territory you kind of feel like.

3071
02:36:56,800 --> 02:36:59,760
Marvin Mims this. 
Would be a shocking punt. 

3072
02:36:59,800 --> 02:37:01,640
I mean, it would be a shockingly
bad punt. 

3073
02:37:06,840 --> 02:37:07,920
They're doing a highlight 
package. 

3074
02:37:07,920 --> 02:37:11,480
Oh my. 
God, God, what is wrong with 

3075
02:37:11,480 --> 02:37:14,240
them? 
There's 4 1/2 minutes left here 

3076
02:37:14,240 --> 02:37:18,040
at midfield. 
What's it called? 

3077
02:37:18,040 --> 02:37:20,160
Is it the the coward index or 
what's the? 

3078
02:37:20,400 --> 02:37:22,400
Yeah, it's a bit. 
It's a coward one. 

3079
02:37:23,600 --> 02:37:25,280
I want to see. 
Or maybe they're just they have 

3080
02:37:25,280 --> 02:37:28,200
so much faith that. 
The thing is the charges. 

3081
02:37:28,200 --> 02:37:30,200
Are going to run the ball with 
Gus three times in a row and 

3082
02:37:30,200 --> 02:37:33,320
punt. 
The problem with 4 1/2 minutes 

3083
02:37:33,320 --> 02:37:36,400
left is now if the Chargers are 
able to move the ball, that 

3084
02:37:36,400 --> 02:37:39,080
yardage that they could gain 
back to midfield can also run so

3085
02:37:39,080 --> 02:37:41,320
much clock. 
You almost don't mind giving it 

3086
02:37:41,320 --> 02:37:43,840
up to them at midfield. 
Because like, even if they get 

3087
02:37:43,840 --> 02:37:46,720
into field goal range and kick a
field goal at six, six points, 

3088
02:37:46,920 --> 02:37:48,440
if they can go all the way to 
the end zone, you're fucked 

3089
02:37:48,440 --> 02:37:49,560
anyway. 
Like if you can't stop them, you

3090
02:37:49,560 --> 02:37:51,160
can't stop them. 
There's only 4 1/2 minutes left.

3091
02:37:51,160 --> 02:37:53,400
They get multiple first downs. 
It's going to be tricky. 

3092
02:37:54,160 --> 02:37:56,680
But like, if you give up a field
goal, it's not the end of the 

3093
02:37:56,680 --> 02:37:58,920
world when you get the ball back
with another time for another 

3094
02:37:58,920 --> 02:38:00,640
drive. 
They've put themselves in a 

3095
02:38:00,640 --> 02:38:02,840
position where they may not get 
the ball back with enough time 

3096
02:38:02,840 --> 02:38:05,560
for another drive. 
Now I just, I don't understand 

3097
02:38:05,560 --> 02:38:06,760
why you give up a possession 
there. 

3098
02:38:06,760 --> 02:38:09,600
It's just really, really weird 
to voluntarily give that up. 

3099
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:13,080
There's scenarios where you 
don't get the ball back now. 

3100
02:38:13,200 --> 02:38:18,120
I mean, OK, so this says this, 
this, this punt ranks in the 

3101
02:38:18,120 --> 02:38:20,760
97th percentile of cowardly 
punts of. 

3102
02:38:20,840 --> 02:38:23,640
The 20. 
Four season and 93rd percentile 

3103
02:38:23,640 --> 02:38:29,360
of all punts since 1999. 
Do they not have access to this 

3104
02:38:29,360 --> 02:38:31,760
information before they make 
these decisions? 

3105
02:38:32,600 --> 02:38:34,080
They've been picking up good. 
They have. 

3106
02:38:34,120 --> 02:38:36,720
They've had good play calling in
these spots, too. 

3107
02:38:36,720 --> 02:38:42,000
They picked up some big third 
downs, like, yeah, so bizarre. 

3108
02:38:45,200 --> 02:38:48,320
Yeah, because the Chargers had 
the ball for a while earlier. 

3109
02:38:48,320 --> 02:38:50,720
Like they very well may never 
get back. 

3110
02:39:03,760 --> 02:39:08,520
Well, despite all of this, the 
core, the core is still hitting.

3111
02:39:10,440 --> 02:39:14,400
We just really have to fade 
first down Gus right now because

3112
02:39:14,400 --> 02:39:15,880
we know we're going to get first
down Gus. 

3113
02:39:18,320 --> 02:39:19,520
And what do we have? 
How many yards? 

3114
02:39:19,760 --> 02:39:21,600
Do we have? 
He's at 31. 

3115
02:39:27,200 --> 02:39:32,360
It would also be nice to get the
lad catch but my hierarchy we 

3116
02:39:32,360 --> 02:39:35,320
have them at 87, we need them to
just have get to 90. 

3117
02:39:36,920 --> 02:39:40,000
No, I mean Gus, Gus, I can't 
see. 

3118
02:39:40,000 --> 02:39:41,480
Gus isn't on. 
Gus isn't a picture. 

3119
02:39:41,480 --> 02:39:42,320
Do you? 
So I'm asking. 

3120
02:39:42,320 --> 02:39:47,200
Oh, my bad. 
Gus is at 31. 

3121
02:39:47,200 --> 02:39:48,360
OK, 31. 
OK. 

3122
02:39:49,200 --> 02:39:52,960
This is the core here, yeah. 
And then, yeah, up above it we 

3123
02:39:52,960 --> 02:39:57,000
have there's the Mims one and 
then there's the estimate one. 

3124
02:39:57,200 --> 02:40:00,040
Like everything is so fucking 
close to a sweep. 

3125
02:40:02,400 --> 02:40:05,960
Minus the the Sutton Tuddy, but 
even that if they can. 

3126
02:40:05,960 --> 02:40:07,000
Get. 
So we're good on that. 

3127
02:40:07,000 --> 02:40:09,520
Or do we need one more lad? 
We're. 

3128
02:40:09,520 --> 02:40:12,480
Good on lad on a couple of them,
but not on the laddered 1. 

3129
02:40:12,880 --> 02:40:15,840
This is so frustrating because 
they have to run the ball. 

3130
02:40:15,840 --> 02:40:20,680
I mean nothing. 
I mean, thank God. 

3131
02:40:21,440 --> 02:40:24,880
Thank God they light possessions
on fire. 

3132
02:40:25,360 --> 02:40:27,880
Yeah, but in this spot you want 
them to use your timeouts a 

3133
02:40:27,880 --> 02:40:30,160
little and you have to help you 
can run more effectively. 

3134
02:40:30,160 --> 02:40:33,640
But they are you're right. 
I mean, I would still throw it 

3135
02:40:33,640 --> 02:40:36,240
in the charger spot. 
I mean, I think they might throw

3136
02:40:36,240 --> 02:40:39,560
it here on second hand. 
They keep, it's just you're not,

3137
02:40:41,360 --> 02:40:42,840
you're not going to hold the 
possession. 

3138
02:40:48,360 --> 02:40:50,640
Yeah, both of these teams plan 
not to lose right now. 

3139
02:40:51,600 --> 02:40:56,320
Yeah, I mean, they both are. 
I mean they both need to. 

3140
02:40:56,320 --> 02:40:59,440
Win for playoffs. 
There we go. 

3141
02:40:59,440 --> 02:41:00,840
We got Gus out of the out of the
game. 

3142
02:41:02,160 --> 02:41:06,120
Right on Q, right. 
On Oh my God, that's why you 

3143
02:41:06,160 --> 02:41:08,520
kind of good for us such. 
An easy one to do. 

3144
02:41:08,600 --> 02:41:11,160
Yeah. 
They might run it here though. 

3145
02:41:11,200 --> 02:41:14,680
I hope Gus doesn't come back on 
they. 

3146
02:41:14,920 --> 02:41:16,160
Could run it. 
Oh, that is a dis. 

3147
02:41:16,400 --> 02:41:18,600
That is such a. 
Oh, that's so huge. 

3148
02:41:18,680 --> 02:41:24,240
And he had two chances to secure
it like. 

3149
02:41:24,480 --> 02:41:25,880
What? 
That was the opposite of the 

3150
02:41:25,880 --> 02:41:27,600
Palmer catch. 
I would love to see you inside 

3151
02:41:27,600 --> 02:41:28,400
my house. 
Now he's like my. 

3152
02:41:29,160 --> 02:41:30,560
Bad. 
I love how Yeah, I love the. 

3153
02:41:30,840 --> 02:41:31,680
My bad. 
My bad. 

3154
02:41:31,680 --> 02:41:32,720
You think that's your bad? 
Oh. 

3155
02:41:33,080 --> 02:41:36,880
Shit. 
I would, yeah. 

3156
02:41:36,960 --> 02:41:39,120
I could not be his. 
Coach final backfield. 

3157
02:41:39,120 --> 02:41:41,040
Let's go. 
Lad. 

3158
02:41:41,760 --> 02:41:46,640
Oh yeah, lad, although we kind 
of want to punt. 

3159
02:41:46,640 --> 02:41:48,040
Do we still need that other live
catch? 

3160
02:41:48,040 --> 02:41:51,680
We do. 
Shit went out of bounds. 

3161
02:41:51,720 --> 02:41:53,560
That's bad. 
And they're going to give them 

3162
02:41:53,560 --> 02:41:55,280
the penalty. 
They're going to give them what?

3163
02:41:55,280 --> 02:42:00,960
No, no penalty, man. 
I kind of think they should have

3164
02:42:00,960 --> 02:42:02,600
to be honest. 
I don't even. 

3165
02:42:02,600 --> 02:42:07,720
Know cut back into the field. 
I thought he earned that, that 

3166
02:42:07,720 --> 02:42:11,080
contact. 
He didn't just probably did. 

3167
02:42:11,160 --> 02:42:13,400
He probably did, but they they 
tend to call. 

3168
02:42:13,680 --> 02:42:15,160
I think he got hit when he was 
out. 

3169
02:42:15,560 --> 02:42:18,240
But this change of direction 
here is why you're going to get 

3170
02:42:18,240 --> 02:42:20,080
hit. 
Yeah, you're right. 

3171
02:42:20,080 --> 02:42:21,760
He was taking down he. 
Can't cut it off, but he's. 

3172
02:42:21,960 --> 02:42:22,920
Not. 
Like to get hit? 

3173
02:42:22,960 --> 02:42:24,880
He changes direction on the 
sideline. 

3174
02:42:24,920 --> 02:42:27,640
That's I thought that I thought 
that right foot was out of 

3175
02:42:27,640 --> 02:42:29,760
bounce. 
It looked like it might have 

3176
02:42:29,760 --> 02:42:32,160
been, but even still, it's like 
you got to just go out. 

3177
02:42:32,760 --> 02:42:35,640
There it is in the stream. 
God damn, that's the. 

3178
02:42:35,640 --> 02:42:39,160
Longest Goss Edwards run. 
What in the flying fuck? 

3179
02:42:39,240 --> 02:42:41,040
How many? 
Wait, that's. 

3180
02:42:41,680 --> 02:42:44,120
A real Can you get a flag? 
Yes. 

3181
02:42:44,120 --> 02:42:45,960
I can't believe that. 
Oh my God. 

3182
02:42:46,400 --> 02:42:50,040
That's so brutal. 
That might have even ruined my 

3183
02:42:50,040 --> 02:42:50,400
life. 
I'm. 

3184
02:42:50,960 --> 02:42:53,520
Going to have a I'm going to 
pull up a comment that'll not 

3185
02:42:53,520 --> 02:42:55,440
make his. 
And he lost a fumble at the end 

3186
02:42:55,440 --> 02:42:57,080
of it. 
I I didn't even. 

3187
02:42:57,080 --> 02:42:59,800
That's why I was like, yeah, 
that's I'm like waiting. 

3188
02:42:59,800 --> 02:43:03,000
I was like wait. 
Did the Broncos recover? 

3189
02:43:03,000 --> 02:43:08,040
That Gerald Gerald would be 
broke because he said under 9 

3190
02:43:08,040 --> 02:43:11,000
1/2 for Gus's longest carry is 
free money. 

3191
02:43:15,600 --> 02:43:19,800
Man, I can't believe he just, he
just had a 43 yard carry. 

3192
02:43:19,800 --> 02:43:22,000
Yeah. 
Oh, mine's dead too then. 

3193
02:43:22,000 --> 02:43:30,000
Shit. 
No, I mean, honestly, we don't 

3194
02:43:30,000 --> 02:43:33,120
deserve to lose, but the Broncos
absolutely deserve to lose after

3195
02:43:33,120 --> 02:43:37,480
that punt do. 
You guys want to guess what his 

3196
02:43:37,480 --> 02:43:40,440
long carry of the season was 
prior to that of the season? 

3197
02:43:40,440 --> 02:43:43,480
14 yards. 
Yeah, you're too high. 

3198
02:43:44,880 --> 02:43:47,560
It was. 90 I was right. 
I said 12. 

3199
02:43:51,160 --> 02:43:59,960
I don't want anybody for that. 
Oh man, that was such a blade to

3200
02:43:59,960 --> 02:44:02,080
get there after that sequence of
events. 

3201
02:44:02,120 --> 02:44:07,600
Punt third and 10 scramble. 
No more unders guys. 

3202
02:44:09,080 --> 02:44:12,240
I mean the under was it. 
It seemed nice, I know. 

3203
02:44:12,280 --> 02:44:15,360
Are there Pete, are there any of
the stretch ones where we didn't

3204
02:44:15,360 --> 02:44:18,920
have him that are live? 
I mean live there. 

3205
02:44:18,920 --> 02:44:21,200
There's ones that don't have 
him. 

3206
02:44:21,200 --> 02:44:22,680
Are they live? 
No. 

3207
02:44:22,680 --> 02:44:25,680
Oh, that one just needs a little
bit of LAD and a little bit of 

3208
02:44:25,680 --> 02:44:28,080
estimate, huh? 
Yeah, yeah. 

3209
02:44:28,520 --> 02:44:31,160
I can't believe they punted 
there and then they give up a 50

3210
02:44:31,160 --> 02:44:33,720
yard run to that sound like it. 
Serves you right man. 

3211
02:44:34,120 --> 02:44:36,280
That's what I'm saying. 
Like it can't even be tilted 

3212
02:44:36,280 --> 02:44:38,080
like that. 
They fucked that up. 

3213
02:44:38,080 --> 02:44:39,400
Yeah, they decided to lose the 
game. 

3214
02:44:39,440 --> 02:44:43,600
So what are we supposed to do? 
Oh my God, now Hassan Haskins is

3215
02:44:43,600 --> 02:44:46,000
going for like 90 yards. 
What the fuck are you guys 

3216
02:44:46,000 --> 02:44:51,120
doing? 
That's hilarious. 

3217
02:44:51,120 --> 02:44:52,400
It really does serve them right.
You. 

3218
02:44:52,520 --> 02:44:54,440
That's one of the things that 
can happen when you just give up

3219
02:44:54,440 --> 02:44:56,680
your possession down three with 
4 1/2 minutes left. 

3220
02:44:57,560 --> 02:44:59,880
That's one of the outcomes. 
They go score and you lose. 

3221
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:04,000
Yeah, it's nice that the Broncos
got smoked here for doing dumb 

3222
02:45:04,000 --> 02:45:15,310
shit. 
Disgusting. 

3223
02:45:16,110 --> 02:45:18,750
This was so much fun earlier. 
No, no. 

3224
02:45:26,120 --> 02:45:29,240
Couldn't even be something fun 
like a a lad touchdown. 

3225
02:45:46,620 --> 02:45:48,500
I have a puppy with Justin 
Herbert and Gusset. 

3226
02:45:51,300 --> 02:45:54,620
Right now I know I have no Gus, 
so I'm like, I'm not even 

3227
02:45:54,620 --> 02:45:55,500
looking at my sheet. 
It's. 

3228
02:45:55,740 --> 02:45:57,500
Pretty good. 
It's got mixing Aaron Jones. 

3229
02:45:57,660 --> 02:46:01,060
Casey Brown. 
Lamar but I guess maybe I don't 

3230
02:46:01,060 --> 02:46:05,860
need them. 
I'm on Rod Devante glad not bad 

3231
02:46:06,540 --> 02:46:19,360
Bowers. 
Man and all, I would have loved 

3232
02:46:19,360 --> 02:46:22,800
just one usable score on our BBM
team. 

3233
02:46:23,880 --> 02:46:25,120
Yeah. 
But it. 

3234
02:46:25,320 --> 02:46:27,480
Is not getting it. 
Do we have Sutton? 

3235
02:46:28,640 --> 02:46:33,760
No, we have Lad Palmer and 
Javonte lads at 11.7 but that's 

3236
02:46:33,760 --> 02:46:34,920
not a usable. 
Score. 

3237
02:46:35,640 --> 02:46:36,360
It is. 
It is. 

3238
02:46:36,360 --> 02:46:40,400
As a flex, it's usable. 
I mean it depends on how the 

3239
02:46:40,400 --> 02:46:42,160
games go. 
Yeah. 

3240
02:46:43,880 --> 02:46:45,360
Last week it would not have been
usable. 

3241
02:46:47,480 --> 02:46:51,400
It was you could get through it 
depends like you need other big 

3242
02:46:51,400 --> 02:46:58,960
scores but. 
How much did y'all's BBM team 

3243
02:46:58,960 --> 02:47:02,520
score last week? 
The one I got through only 

3244
02:47:02,520 --> 02:47:05,920
scored like 155 or something but
I had another one score higher 

3245
02:47:05,920 --> 02:47:07,600
and didn't get through. 
Fucking. 

3246
02:47:07,600 --> 02:47:10,800
Pod luck. 
I think ours scored like 170. 

3247
02:47:11,560 --> 02:47:14,120
Yeah, I had one that scored 205 
or something. 

3248
02:47:14,400 --> 02:47:17,000
Damn. 
Another one was like 1165. 

3249
02:47:18,520 --> 02:47:25,160
Yeah, it was a James Conner 
Devante Adams Almond raw. 

3250
02:47:26,240 --> 02:47:26,920
Pretty sacked. 
Team. 

3251
02:47:27,760 --> 02:47:32,040
That's nice. 
Chase Brown, Bucky Irving, 

3252
02:47:33,440 --> 02:47:34,920
Sharps. 
I don't think Sharps made the 

3253
02:47:34,920 --> 02:47:36,480
lineup. 
Mike Evans. 

3254
02:47:36,480 --> 02:47:39,560
Yeah, there's a lot of good 
players from last. 

3255
02:47:39,560 --> 02:47:41,000
Week. 
Wait, wait, you have Mike Evans 

3256
02:47:41,040 --> 02:47:45,120
with Adams and Almonra on that 
team? 

3257
02:47:46,240 --> 02:47:48,160
Yes, and Jane Reed and Jerry 
Judy. 

3258
02:47:48,920 --> 02:47:52,520
Beautiful. 
Trey McBride, it's a good team. 

3259
02:47:52,520 --> 02:47:54,840
I mean, I'm not trying to get 
like too excited about a team 

3260
02:47:54,840 --> 02:47:59,760
that's in the freaking, you 
know, just in the semis, but 

3261
02:47:59,760 --> 02:48:01,960
this is the one that has 
estimate. 

3262
02:48:01,960 --> 02:48:04,400
That's why I'm also like he 
scored that early TD and I was 

3263
02:48:04,400 --> 02:48:06,880
like, man, if this if he gets 
like a 20 point game here, that 

3264
02:48:06,880 --> 02:48:08,960
would be sick. 
That'd be that'd be really nice.

3265
02:48:09,200 --> 02:48:11,720
He's at 9.6. 
He was at 8 when I checked in 

3266
02:48:11,720 --> 02:48:13,400
the first quarter when I was all
excited about it. 

3267
02:48:14,120 --> 02:48:16,160
It's great. 
I haven't barely even used him. 

3268
02:48:20,680 --> 02:48:22,360
What? 
Oh my God, that was sick. 

3269
02:48:22,800 --> 02:48:24,960
That was sick. 
So that's not a lateral. 

3270
02:48:25,240 --> 02:48:27,400
I mean, that's not a flag. 
Yeah. 

3271
02:48:28,520 --> 02:48:31,880
He threw behind right. 
Yeah, it's the same as a pitch. 

3272
02:48:32,400 --> 02:48:36,800
They must have had some other 
penalty because that flag came 

3273
02:48:36,800 --> 02:48:39,160
on, the graphic came on really 
quick. 

3274
02:48:39,160 --> 02:48:41,400
There might have been a holding 
when he broke off to run. 

3275
02:48:42,320 --> 02:48:43,640
That's I think what they're 
going to call. 

3276
02:48:51,600 --> 02:48:54,320
They're talking about whether 
the lateral was even a penalty. 

3277
02:49:03,400 --> 02:49:05,680
Oh, that's no. 
And holding. 

3278
02:49:06,800 --> 02:49:09,080
He called both of them. 
But the second one's not right. 

3279
02:49:10,600 --> 02:49:13,320
Man, I don't really want to. 
Do you know, there's a couple 

3280
02:49:13,320 --> 02:49:15,160
sliding doors moments in this 
game. 

3281
02:49:15,840 --> 02:49:18,560
The Knicks over under throwing 
Mims. 

3282
02:49:19,440 --> 02:49:22,480
That was a bad one. 
That's a real bad one. 

3283
02:49:23,000 --> 02:49:25,520
That's a yeah. 
I mean, the that's bad thing. 

3284
02:49:25,680 --> 02:49:28,000
That the only reason Gus got all
those carries. 

3285
02:49:28,040 --> 02:49:31,800
Yeah, this is a 14 carries. 
It took until then to, you know,

3286
02:49:31,880 --> 02:49:35,560
to get there. 
I feel like we played that right

3287
02:49:35,560 --> 02:49:38,600
because he hasn't, he hasn't had
14 carries all year either. 

3288
02:49:38,680 --> 02:49:40,560
Oh, that did go forward. 
Weird. 

3289
02:49:42,680 --> 02:49:44,800
That angle, definitely. 
That was weird. 

3290
02:49:44,840 --> 02:49:46,800
Because. 
Angles looked completely 

3291
02:49:46,800 --> 02:49:49,040
different. 
Well, one was from behind and 

3292
02:49:49,040 --> 02:49:56,360
one was from like in front. 
I mean, the holding's the only 

3293
02:49:56,360 --> 02:50:00,880
one that actually matters. 
That was so. 

3294
02:50:00,880 --> 02:50:02,840
Weird. 
From the other angle it seems 

3295
02:50:03,560 --> 02:50:04,520
very much. 
Legal. 

3296
02:50:06,480 --> 02:50:09,000
Yeah, that angle was a little 
deceiving. 

3297
02:50:09,600 --> 02:50:13,400
So bonus. 
It's kind of funny then. 

3298
02:50:13,760 --> 02:50:16,160
Like if you're going to do that,
you have to know your lateral. 

3299
02:50:16,160 --> 02:50:18,520
Like it's it's very funny to be 
that far downfield and just 

3300
02:50:18,520 --> 02:50:20,840
Chuck the ball forward. 
He's shrugging. 

3301
02:50:23,320 --> 02:50:24,920
Oh man, we're going to 
commercial. 

3302
02:50:24,920 --> 02:50:26,560
Oh, is it 2 minute warning? 
Yeah. 

3303
02:50:28,080 --> 02:50:30,760
This is. 
This sucks is a really good game

3304
02:50:30,760 --> 02:50:32,720
too. 
That punt ruined a good football

3305
02:50:32,720 --> 02:50:33,920
game. 
It did. 

3306
02:50:34,760 --> 02:50:36,800
It did. 
Just a terrible decision. 

3307
02:50:37,360 --> 02:50:39,640
Yeah, it's. 
An absolutely terrible decision.

3308
02:50:42,520 --> 02:50:44,680
I don't know what like what are 
you thinking is going to happen?

3309
02:50:45,160 --> 02:50:48,840
Your mind Like you have to, you 
have to play to win the fucking 

3310
02:50:48,840 --> 02:50:54,480
game. 6 yards midfield. 
And they have to get to the 

3311
02:50:54,480 --> 02:50:57,280
playoffs still, like this game 
means something. 

3312
02:51:01,800 --> 02:51:03,200
Who's in contention if they 
don't? 

3313
02:51:03,360 --> 02:51:06,000
If they don't make. 
It that's what I was trying to 

3314
02:51:06,000 --> 02:51:08,600
think because, well, neither 
team was 100% in, right? 

3315
02:51:09,640 --> 02:51:11,360
I think they both. 
Needed to win this game. 

3316
02:51:15,480 --> 02:51:18,520
We have Broncos 94% chance to 
make the playoffs. 

3317
02:51:19,840 --> 02:51:25,640
So do they have so? 
Not anymore, but not anymore. 

3318
02:51:25,640 --> 02:51:28,840
We did before, but. 
Can they still get in? 

3319
02:51:36,240 --> 02:51:42,680
I'll pull up what we had. 
Oh, this might help the Bengals,

3320
02:51:42,680 --> 02:51:46,200
people are saying. 
Oh yeah, that would help the 

3321
02:51:46,200 --> 02:51:47,200
Bengals. 
Yeah. 

3322
02:51:51,400 --> 02:51:55,840
The Bengals before today. 
I had like a 4% chance. 

3323
02:51:55,960 --> 02:51:58,480
We have, we have a 3% chance to.
Make the playoffs. 

3324
02:52:03,480 --> 02:52:08,960
It still won't be super high, 
but that would it would be the 

3325
02:52:08,960 --> 02:52:12,040
next one up. 
I think the Colts were still at 

3326
02:52:12,040 --> 02:52:14,240
six. 
You know what's the best part 

3327
02:52:14,240 --> 02:52:18,880
about that punt is, and I 
apologize, but I'm obviously 

3328
02:52:18,960 --> 02:52:24,000
still very clean this the punt 
is we trust our defense. 

3329
02:52:24,400 --> 02:52:27,760
We and they need to know that 
we're not going forward on 4th 

3330
02:52:27,760 --> 02:52:29,160
down and don't have faith in 
them. 

3331
02:52:29,400 --> 02:52:32,240
And what does your defense do? 
They're like, why the fuck did 

3332
02:52:32,240 --> 02:52:33,840
you punt? 
We're so exhausted. 

3333
02:52:33,840 --> 02:52:36,640
We're going to give up Gus 
Edwards 50 yard runs and I've 

3334
02:52:36,640 --> 02:52:39,080
also never 40 yard fucking 
catches. 

3335
02:52:39,440 --> 02:52:43,240
I've never bought that argument 
because if you really trust your

3336
02:52:43,240 --> 02:52:48,200
defense, then put them in bad 
field position at the 15th. 

3337
02:52:49,080 --> 02:52:52,120
Doesn't matter. 
We trust you so much that we're 

3338
02:52:52,120 --> 02:52:55,000
going to let the offense try to 
convert this. 

3339
02:52:55,840 --> 02:52:58,600
And if they don't, we'll still 
win because you're that good 

3340
02:52:58,640 --> 02:53:00,800
defense. 
It just it doesn't make it you. 

3341
02:53:00,880 --> 02:53:03,720
If you trusted your defense, you
would you would do the optimal 

3342
02:53:03,720 --> 02:53:05,440
thing, right? 
For sure. 

3343
02:53:05,440 --> 02:53:07,480
I completely agree with that. 
But the one thing that you do 

3344
02:53:07,480 --> 02:53:09,520
hear from people is like, you 
don't understand the numbers, 

3345
02:53:09,520 --> 02:53:13,520
don't understand that the the 
players, their emotions, they 

3346
02:53:13,520 --> 02:53:15,760
feel like you don't trust them 
when you go for it. 

3347
02:53:16,120 --> 02:53:19,120
And so then by punning you're 
you're they should come out 

3348
02:53:19,120 --> 02:53:21,480
there and they should play 
harder and they just gave up. 

3349
02:53:21,480 --> 02:53:22,280
Bullshit. 
That's bullshit. 

3350
02:53:22,720 --> 02:53:24,880
It's almost like the argument is
complete bullshit. 

3351
02:53:25,240 --> 02:53:27,000
It is. 
But I just want to point out 

3352
02:53:27,000 --> 02:53:29,440
that Gus Edwards and I don't 
think players are like their 

3353
02:53:29,720 --> 02:53:32,080
wives. 
They're not like, oh, do you 

3354
02:53:32,080 --> 02:53:36,440
believe in me this second? 
Of of course, of course, if you 

3355
02:53:36,440 --> 02:53:39,480
don't, I'll play poorly. 
Can you tell me you believe in 

3356
02:53:39,480 --> 02:53:42,880
me? 
These are professionals. 

3357
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:48,920
That's absurd. 
Just so fucking annoyed by that.

3358
02:53:48,920 --> 02:53:50,480
You gotta. 
Bring out the punt team here, 

3359
02:53:50,480 --> 02:53:52,440
Sean. 
Yeah, 50 yard line. 

3360
02:53:52,600 --> 02:53:54,720
Punt down, yeah. 
You don't want to give up. 

3361
02:53:54,720 --> 02:53:56,120
You don't want to give up any 
more points. 

3362
02:53:56,120 --> 02:54:00,920
They're punt What I just I just 
ruined the game because if they 

3363
02:54:00,920 --> 02:54:05,800
convert that, then the charges 
are under more duress and then 

3364
02:54:05,800 --> 02:54:09,360
they're throwing it coming back.
And this like the whole end game

3365
02:54:09,360 --> 02:54:13,960
situation became, you know, Gus 
Edwards and Haskins having these

3366
02:54:13,960 --> 02:54:15,880
two big plays and that's all 
that's fucking happened. 

3367
02:54:16,320 --> 02:54:17,960
Just ruined the last five 
minutes of the game. 

3368
02:54:20,120 --> 02:54:25,160
What a disaster. 
We have had some tough brick 

3369
02:54:25,200 --> 02:54:28,280
beats and I mean, I'm not going 
to say it's the worst one 

3370
02:54:28,280 --> 02:54:29,640
because we've had some really 
tough ones. 

3371
02:54:29,640 --> 02:54:30,840
Honestly, this is the worst one.
It's. 

3372
02:54:31,280 --> 02:54:33,080
Not the worst, no, this isn't 
the worst one. 

3373
02:54:33,560 --> 02:54:35,400
It's not, but it it's pretty 
gross. 

3374
02:54:35,400 --> 02:54:36,080
It's. 
The third one. 

3375
02:54:36,320 --> 02:54:37,640
I would say I think it's. 
The third. 

3376
02:54:37,640 --> 02:54:41,600
Worst one, the Bucky 1 and the 
the Vikings one. 

3377
02:54:41,720 --> 02:54:44,000
Those were the two. 
The Veil Wei 1 was tough. 

3378
02:54:44,000 --> 02:54:45,760
Veil Wei. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

3379
02:54:46,720 --> 02:54:50,040
The Bucky the Bucky 1 was. 
Heartbreaking. 

3380
02:54:50,080 --> 02:54:52,760
By and you know what's so 
heartbreaking about that too. 

3381
02:54:52,760 --> 02:54:55,120
I was thinking about this. 
He's basically hit the line 

3382
02:54:55,120 --> 02:54:57,960
every time since like we were 
also so directionally, yeah, 

3383
02:54:57,960 --> 02:55:03,160
we're just like on it early and 
this well and this one, this 

3384
02:55:03,160 --> 02:55:04,840
one. 
Stings in that like there was a 

3385
02:55:04,840 --> 02:55:09,720
chance for a full sweep like 
across the board in some of 

3386
02:55:09,720 --> 02:55:12,520
those scenarios, like all four 
of them were were live. 

3387
02:55:13,080 --> 02:55:15,600
Yeah, this could have been a 
massive night. 

3388
02:55:16,720 --> 02:55:18,640
And Sean Payton. 
Just it's like, you know what, 

3389
02:55:18,640 --> 02:55:20,880
that play that you just did 
there, Sean, that was in your 

3390
02:55:20,880 --> 02:55:22,560
playbook 10 minutes ago too, 
bud. 

3391
02:55:24,440 --> 02:55:26,840
Right, right. 
Fourth time could. 

3392
02:55:26,840 --> 02:55:28,040
Have called how that well that 
worked. 

3393
02:55:31,400 --> 02:55:33,960
He he did that onside kick in 
the Super Bowl and that was the 

3394
02:55:33,960 --> 02:55:36,760
last bold thing he'll ever do. 
He's good now. 

3395
02:55:36,760 --> 02:55:40,960
Truly shocking that also that 
they were at 2nd and 20. 

3396
02:55:41,000 --> 02:55:45,360
Ran the ball with estimate and 
then threw underneath to that 

3397
02:55:45,600 --> 02:55:47,960
like whoever was Lucas Kroll or 
whatever. 

3398
02:55:47,960 --> 02:55:50,240
And I was sitting there talking 
about like, OK, he knows it's 4 

3399
02:55:50,240 --> 02:55:52,720
down territory. 
Like what are your play calls? 

3400
02:55:53,120 --> 02:55:56,960
If you're, I mean, as soon as 
the sack happened on 1st down, 

3401
02:55:56,960 --> 02:55:59,160
you just decided you're punting 
And that's that's what it came 

3402
02:55:59,160 --> 02:56:01,040
down to. 
I mean, it's just, it's the game

3403
02:56:01,040 --> 02:56:02,560
ended. 
You know, he, he, the game 

3404
02:56:02,560 --> 02:56:03,840
ended. 
I don't know if you saw, but he 

3405
02:56:03,880 --> 02:56:06,320
left. 
Yeah, he's out of here. 

3406
02:56:06,760 --> 02:56:08,080
He's not on the sideline 
anymore. 

3407
02:56:08,120 --> 02:56:10,960
Dude, he's kicking a Oh, it's 
only 50. 

3408
02:56:10,960 --> 02:56:12,200
Five. 
I thought it was like a 60 

3409
02:56:12,280 --> 02:56:16,000
yarder. 
On 1st and 10. 

3410
02:56:16,720 --> 02:56:20,200
I hate when they do this. 
It's a dumbest shit. 

3411
02:56:21,640 --> 02:56:23,560
Oh God he did make it. 
I wish he would have missed it 

3412
02:56:24,280 --> 02:56:27,440
because they for whatever it's 
it's it's delaying the loss. 

3413
02:56:27,440 --> 02:56:29,280
They think that getting to 
overtime matters. 

3414
02:56:29,320 --> 02:56:31,040
Like it's that's not how many of
this works. 

3415
02:56:31,120 --> 02:56:34,440
You're the other part of this 
that I hate is you're the, the 

3416
02:56:34,480 --> 02:56:36,720
idea is if you get the onside 
kicker, you get the ball back or

3417
02:56:36,720 --> 02:56:38,280
whatever, you're going to have a
shot at a Hail Mary. 

3418
02:56:38,320 --> 02:56:40,280
Well, the Hail Mary's not very 
likely to be made. 

3419
02:56:40,480 --> 02:56:43,360
The field goal from this far is 
likely to be made. 

3420
02:56:43,360 --> 02:56:46,080
You have a shot at it, which 
means you should get your ass 

3421
02:56:46,080 --> 02:56:48,960
down there and score the TD and 
then you can kick the long field

3422
02:56:48,960 --> 02:56:51,520
goal after the onside kick. 
Even with that same logic, why 

3423
02:56:51,520 --> 02:56:54,480
not just do the Hail Mary now? 
Right. 

3424
02:56:54,840 --> 02:56:56,000
Yeah. 
What's the date you can. 

3425
02:56:56,320 --> 02:56:58,040
Still do that because if it 
doesn't. 

3426
02:56:58,040 --> 02:57:00,040
Work then you'll have lost for 
sure. 

3427
02:57:01,840 --> 02:57:04,240
Honestly, that's so much. 
That's why that's why they're 

3428
02:57:04,240 --> 02:57:07,520
like go for 2:00 so that you 
know if you need to go for two 

3429
02:57:07,520 --> 02:57:10,400
again they never do that type of
stuff because it's like what if 

3430
02:57:10,400 --> 02:57:13,440
I go for two and miss then I'm 
like sad so I no, but I mean 

3431
02:57:13,440 --> 02:57:15,960
like I'm gonna delete the 
hilmers could be incomplete to 

3432
02:57:15,960 --> 02:57:18,680
Pete's point. 
If if you're gonna kick, don't 

3433
02:57:18,680 --> 02:57:21,280
kick on 1st and 10. 
Yeah, they're dropping back 

3434
02:57:21,280 --> 02:57:23,440
right now, but take a couple 
shots in the end zone and kind 

3435
02:57:23,440 --> 02:57:25,360
of in a double coverage. 
Yeah, maybe it gets picked off. 

3436
02:57:25,360 --> 02:57:28,000
Probably not. 
If you get multiple receivers 

3437
02:57:28,000 --> 02:57:29,360
down there, it's probably 
incomplete. 

3438
02:57:29,360 --> 02:57:33,120
But like if it gets picked off 
for it's real sad, then yeah, it

3439
02:57:33,120 --> 02:57:35,240
would be so sad. 
So might as well just kick on 

3440
02:57:35,240 --> 02:57:36,640
1st down. 
Yeah. 

3441
02:57:38,880 --> 02:57:41,440
Live to fight another day. 
That's it's just constant. 

3442
02:57:41,440 --> 02:57:47,320
It's just, yeah, yeah. 
Like Doctor Evil says, do the 

3443
02:57:47,320 --> 02:57:49,280
helmer when they don't have 
eight guys back there, they they

3444
02:57:49,280 --> 02:57:51,920
are dropping back and they do 
have safeties back there. 

3445
02:57:51,920 --> 02:57:54,120
But it's going to be easier 
right now than it's going to be 

3446
02:57:54,400 --> 02:57:56,680
after you get the onside kick. 
You're probably not going to get

3447
02:57:56,680 --> 02:57:58,600
the onside kick anyway. 
I mean, this game's fucking 

3448
02:57:58,640 --> 02:57:59,640
over. 
No, they're not, but they're 

3449
02:57:59,640 --> 02:58:01,760
going to. 
This is how you lose like a man,

3450
02:58:02,080 --> 02:58:03,800
right? 
You lose ice in the way you're 

3451
02:58:03,800 --> 02:58:07,520
supposed to lose by by not 
converting in a possible to 

3452
02:58:07,520 --> 02:58:11,240
convert onside kick. 
That's the way we do it is 

3453
02:58:11,240 --> 02:58:13,000
football. 
Coaches hope they call the time 

3454
02:58:13,000 --> 02:58:18,040
out. 
Confidence kick ball didn't even

3455
02:58:18,040 --> 02:58:31,960
jump. 
Yeah, Tim gets it. 

3456
02:58:32,000 --> 02:58:34,680
Sad players can't play at peak 
performance, so you have to 

3457
02:58:34,680 --> 02:58:38,080
avoid at all times letting your 
players feel sadness. 

3458
02:58:38,720 --> 02:58:43,800
I mean, the Lions look pretty 
freaking happy and you don't see

3459
02:58:43,800 --> 02:58:47,520
Dan Campbell doing this shit. 
Well, that's what I'm saying. 

3460
02:58:47,800 --> 02:58:52,520
He he doesn't let him get sad. 
But he doesn't need to kick to 

3461
02:58:52,520 --> 02:58:54,840
keep him happy either. 
Well, yeah. 

3462
02:58:55,600 --> 02:58:59,160
That's true. 
God, this is this is a powerful 

3463
02:58:59,160 --> 02:59:01,600
comment, Sean. 
Fate needs to lose in a way that

3464
02:59:01,600 --> 02:59:03,480
leaves no room for 
introspection. 

3465
02:59:04,200 --> 02:59:06,000
That's right. 
That's correct. 

3466
02:59:06,200 --> 02:59:07,800
Right, that is exactly. 
What it is? 

3467
02:59:07,920 --> 02:59:12,320
I like I did all the things. 
Yeah, beautiful. 

3468
02:59:13,320 --> 02:59:22,160
That's really good. 
That was actually a good outside

3469
02:59:22,160 --> 02:59:25,640
kick from the IT was. 
Sad chasing and it's sad. 

3470
02:59:26,560 --> 02:59:29,000
It is. 
I didn't even, I wasn't going to

3471
02:59:29,000 --> 02:59:31,040
jinx it too. 
I was, I was getting the form. 

3472
02:59:31,040 --> 02:59:33,280
I was like, man, we're going to 
circulate the form here. 

3473
02:59:33,280 --> 02:59:36,880
We're going to be ready to roll 
fucking Gus, man. 

3474
02:59:37,960 --> 02:59:39,200
No. 
Well, we're going to have to do 

3475
02:59:39,200 --> 02:59:42,040
like 6 scores next week to make 
sure we can pay off the money 

3476
02:59:43,080 --> 02:59:45,840
Nick's falling on a sword for 
for getting Taco Bell happy. 

3477
02:59:45,840 --> 02:59:46,880
That's right. 
That's on. 

3478
02:59:46,880 --> 02:59:49,000
Yeah, Nick, That's everyone. 
Blame Nick. 

3479
02:59:49,280 --> 02:59:52,240
Every time I've gotten Taco Bell
early, we've lost. 

3480
02:59:52,240 --> 02:59:53,240
I won't let. 
Nobody. 

3481
02:59:53,640 --> 02:59:56,920
Ring the bell early. 
Taco Bell the entire week just 

3482
02:59:56,920 --> 03:00:00,160
to be safe. 
Yeah, we'll get Taco Bell next 

3483
03:00:00,160 --> 03:00:02,640
week after we win. 
Yeah. 

3484
03:00:09,120 --> 03:00:11,160
Do you think Peyton feels like 
if they punted just like a 

3485
03:00:11,160 --> 03:00:12,760
little further, they would have 
won this game? 

3486
03:00:14,880 --> 03:00:18,000
Probably. 
Yeah. 

3487
03:00:18,640 --> 03:00:20,640
Very respectable loss by the 
Broncos here. 

3488
03:00:20,640 --> 03:00:22,400
I mean, I'll give. 
A very, very yeah, he'll. 

3489
03:00:22,880 --> 03:00:24,480
Probably examine the way he 
rotated. 

3490
03:00:24,480 --> 03:00:27,920
The classic 7 point loss on a 
punt, just the way the other 

3491
03:00:27,920 --> 03:00:30,360
play I'm really annoyed at was 
that third and 10 Herbert 

3492
03:00:30,360 --> 03:00:32,920
scramble because then you just 
knew you're getting a gust carry

3493
03:00:32,960 --> 03:00:34,840
right after it and then you have
the long carry. 

3494
03:00:35,640 --> 03:00:38,480
Well, that's that's what stings.
It's like if any one of those 

3495
03:00:38,480 --> 03:00:40,320
things doesn't happen, they go 
for it. 

3496
03:00:40,360 --> 03:00:46,080
They tackle them. 
All right, Anything you guys 

3497
03:00:46,080 --> 03:00:48,320
want to plug before we end sad 
chasing here? 

3498
03:00:50,680 --> 03:00:58,000
No, we got the sidekick rolling.
We have DraftKings launched on 

3499
03:00:58,000 --> 03:01:01,400
beta. 
If you want to draft playoff 

3500
03:01:01,400 --> 03:01:04,040
baseball teams on the sidekick, 
head on over to the Listening 

3501
03:01:04,040 --> 03:01:06,560
Upside Discord. 
Get you set up with that and 

3502
03:01:06,560 --> 03:01:09,920
we're going to be launching that
in the next few days on the on 

3503
03:01:09,920 --> 03:01:12,280
the traditional production 
sidekick. 

3504
03:01:12,280 --> 03:01:15,560
So listening upside.com got all 
your playoff best ball stuff 

3505
03:01:15,560 --> 03:01:16,600
covered. 
Walk through bail. 

3506
03:01:16,600 --> 03:01:19,360
Tomorrow, as usual. 
There you go, Steph. 

3507
03:01:19,840 --> 03:01:21,240
Anything you want people to 
check out? 

3508
03:01:21,600 --> 03:01:25,520
The spreadsheet of your best 
ball teams and the collective 

3509
03:01:25,520 --> 03:01:28,520
ownership of your pod. 
Yeah, you guys could check that 

3510
03:01:28,520 --> 03:01:30,200
out. 
I did post it somewhere in 

3511
03:01:30,200 --> 03:01:34,640
Discord earlier so you can watch
my pain live. 

3512
03:01:35,840 --> 03:01:37,160
There you go. 
I do have a plug. 

3513
03:01:37,720 --> 03:01:41,280
I have a plug for something we 
didn't mention about the Marvin 

3514
03:01:41,280 --> 03:01:43,520
men's play, which was that it 
was clearly even pass 

3515
03:01:43,520 --> 03:01:47,840
interference. 
And I saw that on Twitter and I 

3516
03:01:47,840 --> 03:01:49,440
didn't mention it. 
And I don't really think it was 

3517
03:01:49,440 --> 03:01:52,560
that relevant at the time. 
But in hindsight, even though 

3518
03:01:52,560 --> 03:01:54,600
next time we're through that, 
that was clearly defensive pass 

3519
03:01:54,600 --> 03:01:56,160
interference and it would have 
been huge. 

3520
03:01:58,200 --> 03:01:59,960
I have a lot of things that I'm 
upset about here. 

3521
03:02:01,320 --> 03:02:05,640
Yes, and I'd like to plug that 
that 4th down punt by the 

3522
03:02:05,640 --> 03:02:07,800
Broncos, one of the best punts 
I've ever seen. 

3523
03:02:07,800 --> 03:02:08,320
Peace.
