1 00:00:12,700 --> 00:00:15,800 All right guys, we're back for another ship, chasing minisode 2 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:20,600 on the clock here, 1305 in our first, slow Main Event, draft on 3 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:24,700 FF PC for the year, I will recap our team up to this point and 4 00:00:24,700 --> 00:00:27,000 then you will see the Dilemma. We have here once again. 5 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,100 So our Squad, through 12 rounds Jamar Chase Kyle pits. 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:33,800 He Higgins Marquis Brown, Rashad Bateman Kyler Murray Devante 7 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,800 Smith, Devon Singletary. Garrett Wilson, Chase Claypool 8 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:40,900 Michael Carter and Kenneth gain well who we were very excited to 9 00:00:40,900 --> 00:00:43,800 fall to us there in the 12th did we? 10 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,600 Are we on the clock when we took gain? 11 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:50,000 Well last time or was that like a hanging we talked through 12 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,400 Carter we're burying the lead here. 13 00:00:52,500 --> 00:00:55,700 Like the last time that people have heard of us heard from us 14 00:00:56,100 --> 00:00:59,200 we were like, oh God, who do we pick the game? 15 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:01,300 Will do we pick Carter? Both of them. 16 00:01:01,500 --> 00:01:03,900 We got game one. He came all the way back 17 00:01:03,900 --> 00:01:06,600 somehow. So it was a celebration in our 18 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:09,500 chat and a snap pea with. You really need to record. 19 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,900 We will remember with where we were. 20 00:01:13,100 --> 00:01:17,300 So had we just were we on the clock and Carter hard, right? 21 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,100 Okay. We've ranked all the players we 22 00:01:19,100 --> 00:01:22,800 do not have a choice that we, yes, we picked Carter, by total 23 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,600 default, and then game. Well, somehow came back who I 24 00:01:26,600 --> 00:01:29,300 think and and great is your day is price and Algeria. 25 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,000 Go to of the Next three picks and we're like fuck that gained 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:35,000 while goes all the way back to us. 27 00:01:35,700 --> 00:01:38,100 I was looking at the command center and I'm pretty sure as 28 00:01:38,100 --> 00:01:42,500 soon as those running backs when or maybe even before we had a 1% 29 00:01:42,500 --> 00:01:46,400 chance to get gain, well it's tougher just like sweating, this 30 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,700 one percent chance. Is it wraps back around and 31 00:01:49,700 --> 00:01:55,200 sometimes harder we got after ATP Singletary, was 10 picks 32 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:56,900 after ATP? I think game, one must have been 33 00:01:56,900 --> 00:01:58,400 at least ten. I think, I think, Carter was 34 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:00,800 probably like at least eight. I mean, all three Of these guys, 35 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,200 we wind up getting just scooping up, value value, hounding it 36 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:09,600 left and right, beautiful running backs as a result it. 37 00:02:09,600 --> 00:02:12,500 Right. You'll see this happen in drafts 38 00:02:12,500 --> 00:02:17,600 to wear like if you are one of the few 0r B Teams like there 39 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:20,100 comes a point in the draft where and we saw it here in the 12th 40 00:02:20,100 --> 00:02:22,000 round, these teams are like, all right, we gotta get some wide 41 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:23,700 receivers. We want to get our second tight 42 00:02:23,700 --> 00:02:27,800 ends here and that naturally, push down some running back 43 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,500 targets to finally being values and we were kind of Talking 44 00:02:30,500 --> 00:02:33,900 about how like the sexy 0r B, guys, you can see, Eli Mitchell, 45 00:02:33,900 --> 00:02:35,900 Tony, Pollard, Penny can walk or those guys. 46 00:02:35,900 --> 00:02:39,400 All came at a premium there, the seventh round to get gain. 47 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,900 Well, you know, 12 rounds later when you can make a case that 48 00:02:42,900 --> 00:02:46,700 it's a fairly flat tear as far as like contingent upside from 49 00:02:46,700 --> 00:02:48,700 round seven all the way down to around 12. 50 00:02:49,700 --> 00:02:53,700 Yeah, I think one of the, I mean, one of the tiebreaks for 51 00:02:53,700 --> 00:02:55,800 us on Carter was he did have the highest ATP. 52 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:57,300 It felt like those are almost no shot. 53 00:02:57,300 --> 00:03:00,100 He'd get back game. Well, was next highest. 54 00:03:00,700 --> 00:03:02,800 Although at the very end of that episode, I think when we looked 55 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:06,100 at the most recent drafts, he was the fourth of the group. 56 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:08,800 But we, I think, Pete, you're saying, is maybe a 20% chance. 57 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:11,100 One of them would come back, so we sort of impart, broke the 58 00:03:11,100 --> 00:03:12,300 tight. Look, we'll go with the guy that 59 00:03:12,300 --> 00:03:16,200 has the highest ATP. Maybe we get lucky and it slips. 60 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,300 I think I thought it would be tearing David's price or Algeria 61 00:03:19,500 --> 00:03:20,800 people. Maybe not buying into one of the 62 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:23,200 rookies. They went right away but gained 63 00:03:23,200 --> 00:03:26,000 while coming all the way back was just I mean it does speak to 64 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,600 a nice. May be minor strategy thing. 65 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:30,300 If you really can't decide take that. 66 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,100 Hi ATP guide. Maybe you get lucky on a slip. 67 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,500 Yeah absolutely. We're doing so Headmaster 68 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:38,600 laughs. I think it made a lot of sense 69 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:40,700 to grab car. Now I did rank algae or as my 70 00:03:40,700 --> 00:03:42,900 top dark. The guy that I wanted us to 71 00:03:42,900 --> 00:03:46,200 dress up, but Carter was second and part of that was just like 72 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:49,000 the ATP value. We're doing so many drafts that 73 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,000 getting these guys at good prices, you know, if you let the 74 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 room, help you break ties and you're doing more than one of 75 00:03:56,000 --> 00:03:59,200 these than, you know, hopefully you'll you'll get the guys you 76 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,300 want but you won't. Reaching as much. 77 00:04:02,500 --> 00:04:05,400 I also think they're. Well I mean last year we did end 78 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:10,200 up very heavily concentrated on a lot of guys and it is this 79 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:13,200 week we kind of talked about it to where it's it's tough, right? 80 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,300 Because you have your guys, these are eighteen hundred 81 00:04:15,300 --> 00:04:19,700 dollar Main Event drafts. You know you want to bet on the 82 00:04:19,700 --> 00:04:21,700 guys you like and you want to get a bunch of them. 83 00:04:21,899 --> 00:04:25,600 On the other hand we still want to draft with some humility know 84 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,300 that even if we think one guy is a slightly higher probability 85 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:30,300 bet than the other like that outcome. 86 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,100 Isn't it always pan out and kind of using ATP, to lead you to 87 00:04:34,100 --> 00:04:37,700 Natural diversification and allow you to build stronger 88 00:04:37,700 --> 00:04:40,500 teams than you would otherwise like as the season progresses 89 00:04:40,500 --> 00:04:43,400 get more closing line value. I do really think that's 90 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,600 something that we're going to layer in this year. 91 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,900 That's really going to help our portfolio of teams. 92 00:04:49,300 --> 00:04:51,900 Yeah, for sure. And you know, we don't always 93 00:04:51,900 --> 00:04:54,300 bring the most humility to these drafts, but I think the last 94 00:04:54,300 --> 00:04:57,400 episode was about as humble as it gets, we getting 95 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,900 non-intuitive. Think it's like asking other 96 00:05:01,900 --> 00:05:03,900 people. Like you have a lead on this? 97 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:09,100 Yeah, I'm just I'm so psyched that we got two of them because 98 00:05:09,100 --> 00:05:11,500 that was the whole thing. I don't know how to break these 99 00:05:11,500 --> 00:05:13,100 ties. These guys are all, like, sort 100 00:05:13,100 --> 00:05:15,400 of the same bed, so to get Carter and gain. 101 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,000 Well, he's just wouldn't even will night going way back. 102 00:05:19,100 --> 00:05:21,000 A Singletary. People talk about if we get 103 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,900 three guys through this range, we'd be pumped, we got that 104 00:05:24,900 --> 00:05:27,200 great Claypool value. Part of why I didn't want to 105 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:28,900 take Claypool as much as you guys did. 106 00:05:28,900 --> 00:05:31,200 Was I wanted to try to get two of those backs. 107 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:35,500 You guys really started the value hounding, they're in a 108 00:05:35,508 --> 00:05:38,100 really positive way, because I said you guys later, I think if 109 00:05:38,100 --> 00:05:40,600 we go running back there, instead of Claypool, just are 110 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,000 pick probably influences things enough to gain wealth, doesn't 111 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:46,300 come back to us at 12. We don't get three guys in this 112 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:48,900 group, just flip our 12. I mean that alone. 113 00:05:49,100 --> 00:05:51,800 Own probably takes you know maybe makes gain. 114 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:55,200 Well are picking the 11th frankly, right? 115 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,600 So taking the Claypool value. They're being willing to take 116 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:03,300 the falling wide receiver. We still wound up with the three 117 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:07,200 running backs at 12:08 so definitely a really nice run up. 118 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,700 Yeah. And our little sweat here, 119 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:13,800 coming back on the rap. I was getting a little excited 120 00:06:13,800 --> 00:06:16,400 about the chance of Khalil Herbert falling to us. 121 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,400 I definitely have gained well ahead of Herbert, but I I think 122 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,500 Herbert is kind of now in like another mini tier as far as this 123 00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:26,500 next batch of Zero running back targets and so I was bummed to 124 00:06:26,500 --> 00:06:28,400 see him going. I mean if we were able to tack 125 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:30,700 on Herbert and the 13th that would have felt like a real 126 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:35,700 coup, it would have but I would have been now finder. 127 00:06:35,700 --> 00:06:39,000 Sure. We Now find ourselves at an 128 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:42,100 interesting spot here. I'll pull up the road of his 129 00:06:42,100 --> 00:06:45,000 Command Center and look at some of these names that were looking 130 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,500 at, as usual, disregard Kenneth Walker. 131 00:06:47,700 --> 00:06:50,100 He is gone. But, you know, just in here, 132 00:06:50,100 --> 00:06:52,600 we're looking at James Robinson, JD mckissick. 133 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,200 Oh, I have this filtered to running backs, but does seem 134 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,100 likely what we're going to do? But some other guys up here, 135 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:59,800 Hunter Henry and Robert onion at tight end. 136 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:02,500 Roger still kicking around Darrell Williams. 137 00:07:02,500 --> 00:07:04,600 Brian Robinson. Marlon Mac, I mean, where are 138 00:07:04,600 --> 00:07:06,300 you guys at heading into this pick? 139 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:11,400 Vic. Well, you kicked around 100 140 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:16,500 idea, and it does feel like a good range for tight end to my 141 00:07:16,500 --> 00:07:19,900 thought was with pits and with it being a 0 or B. 142 00:07:19,900 --> 00:07:23,300 And with it being July that, I'm not that I'm a little more 143 00:07:23,300 --> 00:07:25,700 comfortable, not taking that tells you I typically do like a 144 00:07:25,707 --> 00:07:29,100 solid tight end to inside and premium but to really be trying 145 00:07:29,100 --> 00:07:34,000 to load up on the running back, lotto tickets as many as we can 146 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,800 and then potentially hitting a tight end to very late. 147 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,700 We know Pat loves a guy very late, that would be Fun accent 148 00:07:39,700 --> 00:07:42,500 steam. There's a couple other young, 149 00:07:42,500 --> 00:07:44,100 dudes. I think like train track. 150 00:07:44,100 --> 00:07:48,800 Bride is an option back there. I think who's the other young 151 00:07:48,800 --> 00:07:49,700 guy? So brave. 152 00:07:49,700 --> 00:07:51,700 And Jordan, brother. Jordan Lee he goes. 153 00:07:51,900 --> 00:07:56,000 And then I think Johnny Smith is a worthwhile consideration as 154 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,300 well as more of a vet that if his will change his will but he 155 00:07:58,300 --> 00:08:01,400 was still pretty good on a like a opportunity basis last year, 156 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,600 just need to sort of the world change. 157 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:05,500 Has the contract is gonna play, hopefully he's just not blocking 158 00:08:05,500 --> 00:08:08,400 as much when you make that bet. But for a lot of those types of 159 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,300 guys, we Could cut early. I mean bride, we should get 160 00:08:11,300 --> 00:08:14,500 information on early because Hopkins is suspended. 161 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:18,700 Dulcich, we should get information on early, you know 162 00:08:18,700 --> 00:08:21,100 Brevin, Jordan probably information on early. 163 00:08:21,500 --> 00:08:26,200 So I'm leaning more towards. We can kind of Punt, tighten too 164 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,100 late, or even potentially not take a tight end to, to 165 00:08:29,100 --> 00:08:31,500 continue. Just trying to stockpile, 166 00:08:31,500 --> 00:08:36,200 running back pigs. Yeah, and the thing that really 167 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:42,900 resonates with that take Me is just the idea of like, the 168 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:45,500 running backs are really the only picks left on the board 169 00:08:45,500 --> 00:08:48,900 that can massively jump in value between now and September as 170 00:08:48,900 --> 00:08:51,400 much as we like Hunter Henry. Like, I don't know, Jacoby 171 00:08:51,400 --> 00:08:54,700 Meyers, I would never wish this upon him been could tear has a 172 00:08:54,700 --> 00:08:58,700 TTL and Hunter Henry, is it even moving up that many spot? 173 00:08:58,700 --> 00:09:01,900 So just from like that pure standpoint of like, how could we 174 00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:04,900 supercharge our team? I definitely agree that the 175 00:09:04,900 --> 00:09:07,400 running backs offer kind of the higher upside there. 176 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:12,400 Ready to I guess the argument for Henry would be he's already 177 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:14,400 a follower, right? Yeah. 178 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,900 The biggest value on the board so for getting, you know, a 179 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:21,600 share that maybe. Yeah. 180 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:25,500 Maybe he doesn't climb by a ton but this could still be one of 181 00:09:25,508 --> 00:09:31,600 the cheaper prices that, you know, a team is getting on a but 182 00:09:31,700 --> 00:09:35,300 I obviously agree that there's no chance Hunter Henry like 183 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:38,400 jumps into the ninth round for some reason like that's not, 184 00:09:38,500 --> 00:09:39,900 he's price. Where is priced? 185 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,800 So taking advantage of all the uncertainty, you would want to 186 00:09:45,100 --> 00:09:49,300 hammer running backs. I think the issue is like What 187 00:09:49,300 --> 00:09:52,200 running back because we were we were kicking around Marlin, Mac. 188 00:09:53,100 --> 00:09:56,700 He's not exactly the archetype of a guy who would Skyrocket and 189 00:09:56,700 --> 00:09:58,100 value. Maybe you've pierced sprains his 190 00:09:58,100 --> 00:10:00,800 ankle or something and it's like, okay, Max got this, the 191 00:10:00,808 --> 00:10:04,600 early down, roll locked down. Maybe he would jump up to the 192 00:10:04,608 --> 00:10:09,100 9th, or 10th or something, but, you know, he's not that 193 00:10:09,100 --> 00:10:11,000 exciting. As far as a contingent play 194 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,000 goes, and I don't really see anybody. 195 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:17,700 That's all that exciting. I guess, Yancy, Foreman has a 196 00:10:17,700 --> 00:10:21,700 ton of contingent value but he's also kind of an early down guy 197 00:10:21,700 --> 00:10:23,900 himself. So there's no like real. 198 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,900 If a credit credit to the other drafters here, they didn't 199 00:10:26,900 --> 00:10:29,000 believe anyone with the like a massive ceiling. 200 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,500 It's funny too. Because this, there's this same 201 00:10:32,500 --> 00:10:35,100 spot that you hid in an underdog draft. 202 00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:40,900 And I generally really dislike this band of running backs and 203 00:10:40,900 --> 00:10:44,200 then I really like a lot of the eighteenth Round Guys, in the 204 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,400 guys that sometimes go Andre After, you know, we're talking 205 00:10:46,400 --> 00:10:50,700 down into the Sony Michelle, Haskins McKinnon, be no Drake. 206 00:10:50,700 --> 00:10:53,300 Dear Ernest Johnson, baby. Like these names are all way 207 00:10:53,300 --> 00:10:56,700 more interesting to me that like the names of ahead of it. 208 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:59,400 It's, which is maybe why Chris Evans just wet, it aren't. 209 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,500 Yeah, exactly. Yeah, somebody else was feeling 210 00:11:02,500 --> 00:11:04,400 the same way and went down for Chris Evans. 211 00:11:04,700 --> 00:11:09,500 I'll make a case for Mac in that there's I mean, I'm not a doctor 212 00:11:09,500 --> 00:11:12,500 but there's this thought that maybe with Achilles, it's not 213 00:11:12,500 --> 00:11:15,900 the the next year back. But the second year back Can get 214 00:11:15,900 --> 00:11:17,300 some of their explosiveness back. 215 00:11:17,300 --> 00:11:19,200 We saw with de'aunte Foreman last year. 216 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:21,700 He's stealing 26 before. He tore his Achilles, he had 217 00:11:21,700 --> 00:11:24,800 back-to-back thousand total yard seasons for the cult. 218 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:27,400 There's I think there's this possibility of. 219 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,800 He looks explosive in the preseason we're thinking of him 220 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:35,900 as their you know their lead back there guy by the end of 221 00:11:35,900 --> 00:11:38,200 August or at least a fantasy Community is and then that would 222 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,000 I think I don't think people go crazy about Marlon Mac easily 223 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:42,800 back in Houston. But the famous Community has 224 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:44,500 tended to like Marlon Max Talent. 225 00:11:44,500 --> 00:11:47,700 I think over the years More than probably, they should have at 226 00:11:47,700 --> 00:11:49,800 times over the last couple years like after the drive to Jonathan 227 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:53,300 Taylor, but I do think he would have the potential to jump into 228 00:11:53,300 --> 00:11:55,300 like the ninth round by the end of August. 229 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,500 If we get, you know, an indication that either a he's 230 00:11:59,500 --> 00:12:03,500 going to be the lead back or be and we were kicking around some 231 00:12:03,500 --> 00:12:05,000 reports in the team's. It sounds like they're looking 232 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,900 at a committee for sure but if it looks like he might be 233 00:12:08,900 --> 00:12:11,600 solidifying, some momentum toward being the lead back at 234 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,900 least early in the year poor bee. 235 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,300 He looks explosive. That that suddenly looks like 236 00:12:17,300 --> 00:12:19,700 the right bet to make it. Maybe Damien Pierce isn't coming 237 00:12:19,700 --> 00:12:22,500 along as quick because they don't have a deep running back 238 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:23,800 room. It's basically those two 239 00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:27,400 Birkhead who's probably going to play a decent amount and then 240 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:30,800 it's like Royce Freeman and Daria Goomba Wally. 241 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,800 I mean, there's not a lot else there so that yeah, Mac is 242 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:36,500 healthy and explosive and Pierce's. 243 00:12:36,500 --> 00:12:39,700 Our fourth round rookie Mac. I think would have a shot to 244 00:12:39,700 --> 00:12:41,100 potentially consolidate some working. 245 00:12:41,100 --> 00:12:43,700 At least in the early part of the year I was starting to get 246 00:12:43,700 --> 00:12:46,600 excited about picking Mac and then My message, Rivers. 247 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:52,100 McCown, who is one of the guys over at NBC with me and he, he 248 00:12:52,100 --> 00:12:54,400 like, watches all the Texans games for us. 249 00:12:54,500 --> 00:12:56,800 Like, when we do the recap pod, it's always Rivers, coming the 250 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,900 Texans. He's like a die-hard Texans fan. 251 00:12:59,300 --> 00:13:01,600 I don't know how he does it. I mean, he clearly it's clearly 252 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:04,200 like getting, it's just like, destroying his soul. 253 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:08,200 I want you and what they've been doing, but he stays up to date 254 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:11,500 with all the texts and stuff. So I asked him what he thought, 255 00:13:11,500 --> 00:13:15,200 the backfield split would be, he came back with Birkhead. 256 00:13:15,700 --> 00:13:20,500 At 55% 30, Mac 15 Pierce. He's like if I had to put a chip 257 00:13:20,500 --> 00:13:22,300 anywhere, that's that's what would be on. 258 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,100 Don't love that. Don't love the idea of Burke 259 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:28,800 heavily in this backfield. I mean, you know, and he was 260 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,800 saying he thinks that they trust Birkhead as a passing down back 261 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,400 and eventually Pierce going to eat into the role. 262 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:42,800 That might come from matter lie down such as a little bit first. 263 00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,700 He's not like a great pass-catching tight. 264 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:49,800 He's okay as a pass catcher but you know as a rookie displacing 265 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,400 the veteran passed by. So, where might be tough? 266 00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:53,900 Where would you be out right now? 267 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:58,900 So I think, you know, Chris Evans just went, first of all, I 268 00:13:58,908 --> 00:14:01,900 think Max in play, I don't want to say, like, he's not but but 269 00:14:01,900 --> 00:14:03,400 that made me, at least, think about it. 270 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:07,200 But with Chris Evans going, I think we have permission to take 271 00:14:07,200 --> 00:14:09,500 basically any running back that we want. 272 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:16,800 And so I would say Jerick McKinnon Sheriff McKenna. 273 00:14:17,300 --> 00:14:20,100 Interesting. The one thing I was thinking 274 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:25,000 through here is because we are in this interesting range where 275 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,600 like some of the screeners I'm doing is like, almost all these 276 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:31,200 now are like three-man back fields where even like the 277 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,300 contingent upside is pretty muddied? 278 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:36,400 That's why Deonte Foreman is kind of interesting because that 279 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,200 does feel like, I don't know, maybe people still believe in 280 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,400 Juba Hubbard but I pretty feel strongly Foreman would carry the 281 00:14:42,400 --> 00:14:43,700 load. Their CMC went down. 282 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:45,800 So that's kind of a track Of to me. 283 00:14:46,700 --> 00:14:50,500 And then the other thing I'm looking at is, what kind of 284 00:14:50,500 --> 00:14:54,000 production were looking for like the Marlin Mac and Mark Ingram 285 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,300 types, they could start for us out of the gate, you know, when 286 00:14:57,300 --> 00:14:59,800 we need production because we think they're going to get some 287 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,300 touches there or do we go with a mckissack type, A Jamaal 288 00:15:04,300 --> 00:15:06,800 Williams type being like? Hey, let's just get that pass 289 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:10,600 catching floor or do we take the big cut again? 290 00:15:10,700 --> 00:15:14,000 I think mckissick you brought up and I think he would be my 291 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:15,200 second. Pick. 292 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:17,800 But I'm questioning that aspect of it. 293 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:23,000 Do we need? Do we need that pass catcher 294 00:15:23,000 --> 00:15:27,600 when you have Carter and gain? Well, already on the roster, 295 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,600 because I kind of feel like they're that guy with a little 296 00:15:29,600 --> 00:15:31,100 bit more juice and would be fine. 297 00:15:31,100 --> 00:15:35,800 Starting them what and like, does he bring a sick I'd rather 298 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:38,500 take Hunter Henry then a guy like mckissick because he 299 00:15:38,508 --> 00:15:40,000 doesn't have any contingent value. 300 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,600 You know, I like Jamal Williams. I'm not taking much to Mo 301 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,800 Williams, but he Does have contingent value. 302 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:48,400 You know. Maybe he has a committee role 303 00:15:48,900 --> 00:15:54,000 but if you under a swift word, be out for a few weeks like It 304 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,700 wouldn't be like the most exciting guy, but you'd be 305 00:15:55,700 --> 00:15:57,900 plugging them into your DFS lineups and stuff. 306 00:15:58,100 --> 00:16:00,900 So words like mckissack Gibson goes down, were expecting 307 00:16:00,900 --> 00:16:03,200 Robinson to pick up a basically all the slack. 308 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:10,100 So yeah, that's I think like I'm probably about guys, it could 309 00:16:10,100 --> 00:16:13,000 move up in value. A lot to Peach Point earlier 310 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,100 McKinnon, maybe isn't like the perfect example of that. 311 00:16:15,100 --> 00:16:18,800 But I do think there's a scenario where They're like 312 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:21,000 yeah. McKinnon seems to be in the same 313 00:16:21,500 --> 00:16:23,500 passing down. Roll that we last saw him in the 314 00:16:23,500 --> 00:16:26,600 playoffs and that's like there's no way he's going in the 13th. 315 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:29,600 Yeah that's fair. I guess I would hope we could 316 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:31,400 maybe get him on the way back is that? 317 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,600 That's that's my only that's my only thing and I know you can 318 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:38,900 make an argument either way like Pat said and I mean Chris Evans 319 00:16:38,900 --> 00:16:42,100 went and he his ATP was really far down here so we could see 320 00:16:42,100 --> 00:16:44,600 some random stuff of people just grabbing their preferred. 321 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,700 Guys. I do think if we think it's 322 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:49,800 Clothes similar to The Carter gained while spot. 323 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:53,600 Like let's let's take the guy with the higher ADP, you know, 324 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:58,200 just to see if we can get both. Do you think? 325 00:16:58,300 --> 00:17:00,600 Yeah, I think McKinnon's. Pretty interesting. 326 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,100 I mean, I think it's an interesting call. 327 00:17:02,300 --> 00:17:06,800 I think what sounds goes. It's like the, yeah, the game is 328 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,700 over. Like, people are just taking 329 00:17:08,700 --> 00:17:13,400 their guys, and I also think McKinnon in particular, is a guy 330 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:16,300 that people are going to be nervous to trustee. 331 00:17:16,300 --> 00:17:19,099 I mean, I certainly feel nervous to trust the ATP on McKinnon 332 00:17:19,500 --> 00:17:22,599 because it's kind of like, I mean, I know this is what we're 333 00:17:22,599 --> 00:17:25,700 looking looking at for command centers, pretty recent, but he's 334 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:28,400 a guy that I feel Like people still sort of forget about like 335 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:31,000 the ATP is taking a little bit longer than I thought it would 336 00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:36,400 to adjust up, but some people are like, oh yeah McKinnon, why 337 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:38,400 don't I take him here? Like I like McKinnon more than 338 00:17:38,500 --> 00:17:40,000 Marlin Mac. Why don't take McKinnon? 339 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,100 You know? So I don't know it because there 340 00:17:43,100 --> 00:17:46,500 is a nice try to get both. But you're right, we could miss 341 00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:48,700 out on McKinnon. So how much more do you? 342 00:17:49,300 --> 00:17:51,900 I think I like McKinnon. If they were at the same spot. 343 00:17:51,900 --> 00:17:54,000 I'm with you, I would take McKinnon because I want the big 344 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,500 swing with the three running backs. 345 00:17:55,500 --> 00:17:58,000 We've already got my eye. I totally am falling what you're 346 00:17:58,000 --> 00:17:59,800 thinking. I'm trying to think through if 347 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:04,100 it's worth giving up the possibility of getting him, + 348 00:18:04,500 --> 00:18:07,700 Mac or him plus me kissing. And that's what I'm kind of 349 00:18:07,708 --> 00:18:11,500 thinking to like I'm fine passing on mckissick just 350 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:14,400 because I do think we have a pretty good past catching floor 351 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:18,500 with Singletary, Carter in gain. Well I think I the more we talk 352 00:18:18,500 --> 00:18:21,400 this through, I would maybe push for Foreman just, again, that 353 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:25,300 thesis that he would benefit from an injury, the most like he 354 00:18:25,300 --> 00:18:28,100 would probably become a fifth round pick if Christian 355 00:18:28,100 --> 00:18:32,800 McCaffrey, you know, got hurt. Whereas I don't know if I could 356 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:37,500 project a jump that big for for any of these other guys, since I 357 00:18:37,500 --> 00:18:40,600 just like that pure contingent thing to have, you know, six 358 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:44,200 weeks, seven weeks of him just chilling out for us and then he 359 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,200 can just be an easy cut when the season starts. 360 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,500 That's kind of attractive to me. I think, Jamaal Williams says a 361 00:18:50,508 --> 00:18:52,900 bit more continuing value and Foreman. 362 00:18:54,900 --> 00:19:00,300 Like if Swift was out, don't you think Williams would be like a 363 00:19:00,308 --> 00:19:06,400 better DFS play than Foreman? I think you catch more passes. 364 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:10,000 I like to the foreman called I like the Williams other sitting 365 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,600 here agree with everything. I think they're. 366 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,500 Yeah we're going to be able to ever been heard. 367 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:22,800 Yeah. I guess. 368 00:19:23,900 --> 00:19:26,900 The other Detroit running back, is it Ferguson? 369 00:19:26,900 --> 00:19:31,800 Or it's Jamar Jefferson. Jim are Jefferson but it doesn't 370 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,100 sound like then Raven is on good football show this and he was 371 00:19:36,100 --> 00:19:38,700 not particularly high on Jamar Jefferson. 372 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,500 Yeah. There's a lot of options that we 373 00:19:41,500 --> 00:19:45,000 like, we don't really care about which I mean, format, and Jamal 374 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,700 Lyons could come back to. So now that makes me actually go 375 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:49,800 back to McKenna's. It got me really want, like 376 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,600 maybe we still get McKinnon form it, you know, McKinnon Williams. 377 00:19:53,700 --> 00:19:56,700 They're in a, my guess is like we already saw it happening on 378 00:19:56,700 --> 00:19:59,100 that other side of the board, and we actually need to wrap 379 00:19:59,100 --> 00:20:01,800 this up to go do a co-manager call for another one of our 380 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:04,400 teams here. But I will say, like, we're in 381 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:06,800 this kind of gross range for running backs clearly. 382 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:10,400 And we already saw this side of the board be ready to Pivot to 383 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,900 other positions because they all have four five, six, running 384 00:20:12,900 --> 00:20:15,600 backs. I don't mind just taking a guy. 385 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,500 We all like which is clearly McKinnon. 386 00:20:17,500 --> 00:20:20,200 I like making it a lot and then just knowing like we're probably 387 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,300 gonna get a Deontay Foreman or Jim. 388 00:20:23,500 --> 00:20:25,600 All Williams coming back. I would throw out. 389 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,300 Most are two is arbitrage on Mac, where? 390 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:31,400 It's like, it's the same exact. Play your way back. 391 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:33,800 Feel. Probably early down roll. 392 00:20:34,500 --> 00:20:35,900 We can get that type of players later. 393 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:37,200 Let's take the swing on McKinnon. 394 00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,000 That's what you're saying, right? 395 00:20:39,100 --> 00:20:40,300 Most. Yeah, exactly. 396 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:42,300 Also be one, like, Falls next round, Mac. 397 00:20:42,300 --> 00:20:44,800 And most are the same guy foreman and Williams of the same 398 00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:47,700 guy, but McKinnon. I mean, might be the passing 399 00:20:47,700 --> 00:20:50,900 down back on the Chiefs. There's there's no Arbitrage, 400 00:20:50,900 --> 00:20:53,400 passing them that go on the Chiefs available. 401 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,500 Up. Yeah, you don't have to sell me 402 00:20:55,500 --> 00:21:00,000 to get a piece of that like my thesis all in early drafts was 403 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,800 like McKinnon, could be this year's for net, like the veteran 404 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:06,800 on a good team who Smash and everyone discounts for whatever 405 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:08,100 reason? You know, I mean MacKinnon was 406 00:21:08,100 --> 00:21:11,900 awesome in the playoffs and I know they were slow to bring him 407 00:21:11,900 --> 00:21:14,500 back, but it doesn't change the fact that they're not going to 408 00:21:14,508 --> 00:21:15,500 use Row. Joe and pass. 409 00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:20,000 It catching situations in like CH is like one bad snap away 410 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,300 from just being exiled forever, and this feels nice. 411 00:21:23,500 --> 00:21:26,900 He's pure upside to add to it and McKinnon is the most 412 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,800 exciting upside scenario. We talked about CH is career, 413 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,500 its power on is significantly lower than roaches. 414 00:21:33,700 --> 00:21:36,500 Like he's been straight up with upon passing test. 415 00:21:36,900 --> 00:21:39,100 That's funny. That's because people, yeah, it 416 00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:40,600 is. It's like it's like below what? 417 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,300 Roaches, like 1.2 yards per outrun is great because you can 418 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:46,700 sometimes catch a screen and he gets moving CH just undo 419 00:21:46,700 --> 00:21:49,300 anything. All right we're gonna draft 420 00:21:49,300 --> 00:21:52,500 Jerick McKinnon. We'll figure out our next 421 00:21:52,700 --> 00:21:54,500 running back. Coming back. 422 00:21:54,500 --> 00:21:56,100 We are no longer. The value hounds. 423 00:21:56,100 --> 00:21:58,500 We are the I know better guys. Take a dare. 424 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:01,900 Forget it here boom. We will see you guys next time 425 00:22:01,900 --> 00:22:03,000 on the video. It's Pete.