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Hi there from summary, Western 
New York. 

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I'm Mike Show. 
This is ADP chasing. 

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Our heroes are assembled. 
We've got some news. 

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Josh Jacobs just happened. 
We'll do our best to try to, 

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well, figure out what the 
ramifications are for fantasy 

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football. 
Marshawn Lloyd, maybe other 

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veterans. 
How serious is this? 

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We're all legal experts. 
And will he be suspended by 

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season 2029? 
That's what we need to tackle 

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first up. 
Much more than that. 

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As always here on ADP Chasing 
with Pat Karain, Davis Maddock 

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and Sam Sherman in for Jacob 
tonight. 

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This is our show. 
Let's have it. 

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ADP chasing is for When you 
watch ship chasing, you go. 

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These guys are just football 
guys. 

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I. 
Have my 4% exposure blanket stay

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for actually. 
Back in if it's Austinette. 

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It's tear into our crystal ball.
close your eyes. 

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You know all your entries are 
going to lose anyway. 

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Yeah. 
That's fair. 

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You're not going to tell me how 
this went? 

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I was here. 
It's anti cabal, it's anti the 

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best ball thought leader. 
I'm obviously lying to some 

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degree 'cause like, I have a lot
of both of these guys. 

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It's the most disgusting thing 
you can make, but man. 

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Well, there's obviously nothing 
funny about the Josh Jacobs 

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charges, which are pretty 
severe, but it gives us a lot to

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talk about in a time of year 
where there often isn't that 

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much to talk about. 
South Davis, have you already 

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volunteered to be our lawyer for
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Yeah, we lost our we lost our 
lawyer. 

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We've got our man Sam Sherman 
with us who can't give us any 

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legal takes on energy 
consumption in the great nation 

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of Canada, but he can probably 
give us some Marshawn Lloyd 

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takes. 
I'm imagining that if there was 

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anyone we needed to call up to 
do Marshawn Lloyd takes, I think

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Sam has been waiting his whole 
life for that. 

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So these are these are these are
your comps for the Josh Jacobs 

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stuff. 
Judkins from last year is the 

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most obvious one, which the 
first instinct you would have 

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would be like, oh, well, nothing
happened to Judkins, right? 

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So it means something's gonna 
happen to Jacobs or it's not 

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gonna happen to Jacobs until 
2027. 

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There are multiple cases in the 
last five years since the NFL 

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redid their CBA of guys not 
getting charged, the charges 

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being a guys, guys getting 
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charges getting dropped and 
still serving suspensions. 

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Charles Amenihue for the Chiefs 
got six games with no charges 

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filed at all. 
Jibril Preppers got acquitted 

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but still missed seven games on 
the commissioner's exempt list. 

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Quin Shawn Judkin's teammate 
Michael Hall the year before 

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served five games for domestic 
violence. 

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Again was on the exempt list. 
Then Jimmy Ward had a felony 

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assault. 
Those charges are still pending.

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And he also did not play on the 
exemplist. 

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In fact, the two cases I can 
find of guys serving no 

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suspensions or not being cut by 
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happens with a lot of these guys
as if they're edge cases. 

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Like remember Darius Geiss got 
cut and and some some defensive 

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players had been cut is like 
Mark Walton got got suspended, 

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but Stephon Diggs felony 
strangulation plus assault 

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acquitted trial, no suspension 
played all last year for the New

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England Patriots and then 
Judkins. 

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Obviously, no, no suspension at 
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But, and probably the the, if 
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a one to one comp, I actually 
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the Ezekiel Elliott, because 
remember there were multiple 

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domestic violence charges 
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He was never even charged. 
So he never even saw a courtroom

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and he was suspended for six 
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Suspended with no. 
In the middle of the season. 

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Ever, ever filed in the middle 
of the season so. 

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Just to 'cause I was on AI was 
actually just on a pod and I'm 

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playing catch up, but they're 
they released, you know, like 

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Rappaport and and Chapter and 
all those dudes. 

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They released press release from
Hobart Lawrence Police 

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Department. 
It said he was arrested today. 

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They were dispatched to to a 
disturbance complaint involving 

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Josh Jacobs. 
As a result of the 

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investigation, Josh Jacobs was 
subsequently arrested on May 

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26th today and booked into the 
Brown County Jail on the 

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following charges. 
Battery, domestic abuse, 

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criminal damage to property, 
domestic abuse, disorderly 

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conduct, domestic abuse, 
strangulation and suffocation, 

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intimidation of a victim. 
This remains an active and 

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ongoing investigation. 
No further information will be 

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released at this time. 
So that's the call was on 

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Saturday morning and the arrests
were today, three days later. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Obviously it's it's, it's always

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like awkward to go straight to 
fantasy football implications 

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with stuff like this comes up. 
I do. 

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Think fantasy football show, 
bro. 

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It's a fantasy football show. 
I do think it. 

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Doesn't make it not awkward. 
Yeah, you can still. 

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Feel like you feel awkward. 
I hate it when that happens, but

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yes. 
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of outcomes for a suspension. 
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bring up again, this was a while
ago, but it, it does remind me a

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little bit of the Adrian 
Peterson situation. 

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Now that was with his child 
rather than a partner. 

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But in that case, he missed the 
entire season on the exempt list

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as I believe the criminal case 
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So again, that was. 
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know the real differences, The 
real difference between a lot of

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these old cases like the 2015 
and stuff is that the CBA has 

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been renegotiated multiple times
to be more favorable to these 

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guys in these situations. 
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NFLPA has done it has been that 
the NF LS burden of proof has to

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be higher in, in these 
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Like to go into the exempt list,
the there, the, there actually 

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has to be more stuff going on. 
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really put a little bit of, of 
nuance there. 

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Jacobs does have a prior, you 
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with Rushy Rice, Jacobs does 
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He was arrested on suspicion of 
DUI after crashing his car at 

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4:00 in the morning. 
In Wisconsin. 

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In no this is when. 
This is when he was on the 

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Raiders. 
He was booked for DUI, ended up 

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not filing DUI. 
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it ended up just completely 
going away. 

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But I do wonder if some of that 
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I mean, I my, my, if you made 
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finger on it right now, I would 
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suspended like if you, if I just
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the the range of outcomes of 
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It's it's really tough. 
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possibility that the. 
Booked with charges are dropped.

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I feel like probably more likely
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But it's yeah, it's, it's tough.
It's tough to say. 

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Von Miller, Tyree Kill, Kareem 
Hunt, I mean, these does the 

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league. 
We've talked about this before. 

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I've been here that long. 
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it's an optics thing. 
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league think? 
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for the league, yeah. 
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But do they think they have a 
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which is right now in Green Bay,
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I don't know. 
It's really, really tough to 

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look at, and it's possible that 
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like Sam said, we're trying to 
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or James Connor will be a Packer
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among other things. 
You know, I so I did. 

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That was the next part of the 
research that I did was I just 

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wanted to see like, who are the 
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it might have relationships to 
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Here we go. 
It's it, dude. 

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It is a list of it is a list of 
like, Oh my God, I can't believe

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that guy still exists. 
Jamal Williams, Khalil Herbert 

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played under Getzi. 
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Alexander Madison, Amir 
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Michael Carter was on Michael 
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They they picked him. 
He's there when he's. 

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There. 
Is Michael Carter a Packer? 

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Isn't he? 
He's somewhere. 

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No, I don't. 
I don't think Michael Carter is.

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It's Pierre Strong, Chris 
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Damian Martinez, I believe are 
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right now. 
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not the Packers. 
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Nick Chubb was on the Browns 
when TC McCartney, who is like a

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quality control coach, was 
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Antonio Gibson was on. 
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Patriots staff when they signed.
TC McCartney was on the Patriots

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staff when they signed Antonio 
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And then the one that if you 
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really have to start drawing the
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But James Conner does play for 
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Arizona. 
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So, Pat, what do you want to do 
about this? 

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Yeah. 
What's your? 

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Topic. 
What do you? 

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Want to do about this? 
I would like to know who the 

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Packers running back to is like 
right now if I could, you know, 

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like who, who is the Packers? 
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they had to play a game today, 
it would be Marshawn Lloyd. 

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I don't know that that's true. 
I think it'd be Chris Brooks. 

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No, I, I I think it'd be Lloyd. 
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more of a full back H back 
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Not to say he wouldn't get, not 
to say he wouldn't get some 

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touches. 
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I do think Lloyd would be the 
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I I don't know. 
I don't think. 

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So, but have you, have you 
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aren't too tight today? 
All right, here's a. 

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They're checking. 
An assumption is they're not. 

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Pretty sure they're checking 
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Said they need to. 
There was a there was a good 

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quote. 
Someone just posted this in my 

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discord. 
Brian, is it Guticanst? 

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Guticanst. 
You gotta say quick Guticanst, 

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some DS and TS you could do 
like. 

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So quote no. 
One would no one would say 

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anything. 
If he's if he's healthy, we know

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he can help us. 
Bringing Chris Brooks back was a

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big part of that. 
We have a lot of faith in him. 

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I feel good about that group. 
We'll see as it goes if we feel 

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we need to add to it, but right 
now I don't really think. 

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That was on Lloyd. 
That was on Lloyd and Brooks, so

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if he's healthy, they're going 
to count on. 

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Him, if he's healthy, we're 
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Bringing Chris Brooks back was a
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don't think this dude is ever 
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That's why we have. 
Chris well meaning, meaning that

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I mean Chris Brooks. 
I I just, I mean I just did the 

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deep dive dude. 
Like no, no 100 yard game since 

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like his sophomore season at 
Cal. 

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Like this is the most Darya 
Ogunbowala ass guy in the 

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National Football League. 
Did he score touchdowns in high 

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school? 
Did you look that? 

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Up. 
You know what? 

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I actually looked up, actually 
looked up Marshawn Lloyd's high 

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school stats because he's not 
had a he's had since since 2021.

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Marshawn Lloyd has one game with
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Bearish. 
I would say it's 2020. 

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Six, it's bearish. 
To be clear, I don't think a 

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Goomba Wale is a bullish comp. 
It's just that a Goomba Wale 

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played and Marshall Lloyd has 
never played, correct? 

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He's never played again. 
He's played ten career snaps. 

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Yeah, technically played. 
It's more than six guys who 

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plays greater than guy who 
doesn't play, by the way. 6 How 

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many yards the high? 
Rate. 

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I didn't look into that but 
didn't get scares in 10 snaps. 

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Normally a goobawali like my go 
to bear comp but in this case 

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bullish. 
I mean, I think, I think the 

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real answer is like if Jacobs is
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they're going to bring someone 
in. 

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They're they're not going into 
an. 

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Animal. 
It's Naji Harris. 

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I mean, I mean Naji, Naji Naji 
should just get his. 

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He should just get his. 
Trade for Connor. 

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Yeah, I mean trade for Trey 
Benson, Connor Treyford. 

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They hey buddy, They Trey 
Benson. 

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His name is Marshawn Lloyd. 
What's the difference I mean? 

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Yeah, they're the same guy. 
Naji and Connor, they're all, I 

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mean, they're all five letter, 
six letter names. 

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That's that's gonna be one of 
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be like they're gonna trade 
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Benson because they're gonna be 
like, maybe the desert heat will

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be good for his hamstring to 
make maybe like the the cold air

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will be good for whatever. 
It's it's the. 

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It's the it's the classic AJ 
Jenkins for John Baldwin. 

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Great. 
Yeah, exactly. 

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I, I mean, honestly, the, the 
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interesting to me because I 
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you could bring in and 
realistically say if you're an 

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NFLGM, you could look yourself 
in the mirror and say this guy 

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can just be Josh Jacobs. 
You are. 

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None of you are gonna agree with
me on this. 

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I'm gonna be totally on an 
island here, but it's Joe Mixon.

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Oh. 
You like dudes who? 

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Can't. 
Like move their legs like 

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normally? 
This is this is obviously, this 

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is obviously stating that Joe 
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Which why is that? 
Seems less likely than Marshawn 

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Lloyd's hamstring being fine to 
be honest. 

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I think, I think, I think if I 
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more likely, Joe Mixon has a 
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functioning human hamstring? 
I'm going Joe Mixon has a foot. 

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I think it's more likely that 
he's hanging out with Will 

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Fuller right now. 
Have you ever considered giving 

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him carries? 
Brandon I you get the invite to 

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that that hangout as well or. 
Yeah, I think might be might be 

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there. 
Yeah. 

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Well, I just I. 
Probably the Packers don't do 

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anything if they ever do 
anything for a while, correct? 

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This is this is the down time. 
So they're going to play it out,

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see what the legal system has to
say, and either we get a trade 

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by the middle of August. 
Well, let's let's think about. 

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That. 
Let's let's actually think about

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that. 
If you could like make cause the

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the run game is obviously so 
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do. 
Like this is it's not a position

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that, OK, we let Emmanuel Wilson
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We cannot realistically be like,
all right, we're gonna win 11 

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games with Chris Brooks, Naji 
Harris and Marshawn Lloyd. 

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Is there someone out there they 
could realistically trade like a

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third round pick for that? 
Like they would that they would 

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tell themselves we can do it. 
The other team would accept it 

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and and it would be like a a win
win. 

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Well, again, it won't be soon. 
That sounds to me like a trade 

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that happens in October. 
That correct? 

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Yes. 
No, I I agree. 

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I agree with you. 
I agree with you, but I'm trying

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to think about an obvious like 
this team has two good running 

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backs they would potentially 
think about doing it I. 

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Guess it can't be. 
It can't be HN or Breece Hall 

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anymore. 
Yeah, well, that's the thing. 

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I mean, you kind of feel you're 
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signed HN and and Hall to the. 
So I mean, so tuba, tuba is 1 

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where the Panthers would do it. 
And if Jonathan Brooks, if if 

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Jonathan Brooks is healthy and 
ET plan the passing downs. 

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I like that. 
Let me let me toss another one 

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out to you A like a a second 
draft guy, Braylon Allen. 

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Wait, what about the Steelers 
guys? 

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Steelers guys, yeah. 
And I think either one. 

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Tony Pollard. 
Tony Pollard. 

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OK. 
Tony Pollard. 

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I don't think they'd be excited 
to do it because they're like, 

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let's we got to prove this guy's
got right. 

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Sorry, they aren't doing that. 
They're. 

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Not making that trade until the 
season's like 6 weeks old at 

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least. 
The the wild if you're going to 

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like think of a moon shot big 
big name player. 

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I think the the one to watch out
for would be Jonathan Taylor mid

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season if the Colts Yeah name. 
Really. 

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Tank is. 
I don't think they'd do it 

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though. 
That's. 

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Certainly not till mid season. 
They were. 

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They were tied to trade talks 
for him back in. 

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Was it 2023 when Taylor was 
holding out? 

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The Packers called the Coastal 
team to getting a getting a deal

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done if the Colts, if Daniel 
Jones comes back, get it done 

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cold start the season 2 and 5 or
whatever and the Packers are 

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looking good. 
I think that's a realistic 1 

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where would actually make sense 
to fork fork over real draft 

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capital to get someone like 
Taylor. 

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Yeah, I mean, I think you you 
have to like mid season, I think

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things open up cuz then you 
start to look at these teams 

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that you know, I don't know, 
like maybe HN mid season. 

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I don't know how to the. 
Guaranteed money contract 

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extensions. 
Can't do it. 

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Yeah. 
Reese Hall, you know, Yeah, it 

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would be easy. 
Like ideally got a rookie deal 

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with like a team that's clearly 
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season. 
And then you, you know, you 

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don't want to have to spend like
a ton for it. 

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So like I bet you that mid 
season the Cardinals could get a

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second round pick for Jeremiah 
Love if they wanted to ship him 

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off. 
Davis, I have a fun. 

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I have a fun one for this game 
and you're going to like this a 

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lot, I think ready because 
earlier you said you guys are 

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not going to like this. 
I did kind of like it. 

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Trayvon Henderson. 
So I see what you're, I see 

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like, I see the angle of like 
the Patriots are like, you know 

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what? 
Ramandre is just so much better 

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at all the little things. 
They're good. 

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I'm I'm seeing the Bible quotes.
I just, you know, maybe we. 

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Just I mean, imagine Mike Rabel 
goes into. 

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That he's got to be sick of the 
Bible. 

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Quotes Trevion's just quoting, 
quoting adultery lines at him 

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all day. 
OK, All right. 

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I got I got AI, got AI. 
Got another one. 

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Come on here Videl Keith Keith 
Mitchell's averaging 8 1/2 yards

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per carry. 
Videl. 

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Videl is just like juiced up 
Chris Brooks. 

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You could trade a conditional 
sixth round pick for him like 

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how the Vikings trade for Cam 
Akers every year. 

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It's a shame because I think if 
Fidel was a third round pick and

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everything about him was the 
same that that would happen. 

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But I think because he was like 
a day three guy and has been 

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like continually replaced that 
that won't happen. 

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Trayvion Henderson for Matthew 
Golden. 

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I mean, I think. 
Both. 

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I mean, I think that'd be kind 
of bad for the Pats. 

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I think you won't. 
You just keep. 

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You would you would you would 
think that you. 

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Would and 1/3. 
I, I feel like we should, we 

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should answer at some point. 
What if if you're entering a 

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draft tonight, where are you 
taking Jacob's? 

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I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna 
move him down in my rankings. 

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I actually have it up right now,
but I'm gonna move. 

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I'm gonna move Josh Jacobs, who 
I currently have at 29, so I was

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below market on him anyway by 
just a smidge. 

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I'm gonna move Jacobs down to 
33, which is right next to Kyron

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Williams. 
In fact, you know what? 

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I'm actually gonna move Kyron 
ahead of him because Kyron 

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Williams is on a good team. 
Everyone in fantasy football 

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hates him, but he scores 59 
points per game every single 

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season and currently is not in 
county lock up. 

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So 20%. 
It's about. 

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It's about right. 
I'd, I'd be, especially right 

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now, I don't look. 
I think I'd rather have David 

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Montgomery. 
I was, I was more in in line 

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with Pat there. 
I was thinking like 50s. 

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Oh all right, well, everyone, 
everyone's saying I'm going to 

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have a ton of him, so I'm going 
to move him down further. 

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Let me I'll. 
Draft all the Jacobs, fine, 

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whatever. 
You guys, I I didn't I didn't 

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want I don't like The thing is, 
is like I think I learned a lot 

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from the Judkin situation from 
sack last year, which is like at

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those prices, you are so 
incentivized to take the risk. 

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This is very different. 
Like getting a stone 0 for six 

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weeks from Jacobs is your fourth
round pick. 

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Like that team is cooked but 
like you could survive a stone 0

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Judkins for the whole season in 
the 14th round last year. 

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It's also like for me with 
Jacobs, like the whole thesis of

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the play is that he's just so 
steady and reliable. 

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Like you're not really selling 
yourself on Josh Jacobs being 

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the number one fantasy running 
back this year anyways. 

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It's the reliability that was a 
selling point with that at the 

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window. 
Like, give me the guys that seem

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much more reliable at this point
in David Montgomery, even if, 

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you know, you could sell me on. 
He also had he also had the 

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cooked knee. 
He also had the cooked knee at 

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the end of last year. 
Yeah. 

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Yeah, that that's how that's 
where I feel, Sam, like you're 

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because some of the stuff I when
you think about, you know, wide 

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receiver versus running back and
some of these wide receivers 

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where it's like, hey, you know, 
this guy's like it's pretty 

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reliable. 
Like George Pickens like pretty 

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reliable. 
It's not like a super like big 

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upside swing at the position, 
but like, you know, he'll score 

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points and he's on a good 
offense. 

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Like generally I think in 
especially in half, if you're on

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underdog, it's like, well, but 
you could take a running back 

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there who's like going to be 
maybe a little bit more 

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reliable, you know, and at the 
more projectable position. 

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And then like you can get you 
can find some wide receivers, 

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you know, that are going to be a
little bit more inconsistent, 

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but you know, are cheaper and 
and go that route when you go 

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with Jacobs and it's like, well,
now it's not that he like 

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literally will be inconsistent 
week to week necessarily, but 

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you know, I don't know, maybe if
he misses six games, that kind 

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of changes things for the rest 
of his season a little bit. 

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But the bigger thing obviously 
would be he missed six games. 

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We're like, OK, you got a guy 
he's not even playing the 

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beginning of the season. 
This is your like reliable 

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fourth round running back 
production or whatever in best 

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ball. 
Like, why not just like, give 

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me, give me Montgomery, give me 
Scataboo. 

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Like Scataboo might miss a game,
you know, but but maybe even 

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none. 
I I if you think if you think 

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Scataboo is still not healthy at
the beginning of the season, 

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he's unclickable at his current 
price I think. 

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Round 4. 
Yeah, well, I, I think it's 

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nuanced, 'cause I think it's 
like I, I don't think anyone 

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thinks Scataboo or Judkins for 
that matter, is at risk of 

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missing games. 
I think it's more about. 

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Performance, Performance. 
Yeah, like, but but what I'm 

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saying is, is that if Scataboo 
10 months later still is not 

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able to like get ramped up to 
play a game, that risk is not 

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currently be accounted for in 
his price, I don't think. 

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Sure. 
Has has Mickey Loomis texted 

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everyone he knows in Wisconsin 
more, more times or fewer than 

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1000 in the last three hours? 
No one, no one is paying Kamara 

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like whatever billion dollars he
is being owed to go to go play. 

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Well, let. 
Me, let me press you on that. 

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Are we sure that Green Bay is 
that sharp? 

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Remade, remade. 
Is talk about remade fucked 

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money wise? 
Well, OK, we can. 

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We can work around that. 
You talk about Jacobs as the 

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sort of the base floor kind of 
play. 

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That's Camara. 
We all know he's inefficient, 

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but. 
He's not going to Wisconsin, 

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man. 
Yeah, he's dude, The Dells. 

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The Dells. 
Not even has he seen The Dells. 

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Has he seen pictures? 
He's not going to The Dells. 

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He's not going to The Dells. 
Well, he's like, I'm not leaving

450
00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,000
New Orleans. 
Like, maybe you could get him. 

451
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,320
You're like, listen, we need you
in Tennessee. 

452
00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,720
You know, yeah. 
He might go to Nashville. 

453
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:15,840
Is the this? 
Is the. 

454
00:23:16,120 --> 00:23:19,640
Top on that, all due respect to 
Green Bay, WI, Kelvin from 

455
00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,440
Harris not going there. 
If I'm the GM, I'm going to let 

456
00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,880
him refuse the trade and then 
now he's the problem. 

457
00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:30,360
But, you know, just spitball. 
Rusty Shackleford just said one.

458
00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:33,720
There's no coaching connection 
here but a conditional like 

459
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:36,080
sixth round pick for Devon 
Singletary. 

460
00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:39,880
I think I said that like 10 
minutes ago, but you can give 

461
00:23:39,880 --> 00:23:44,080
the credit to Rusty Shack. 
Hey, hey, that's that's, that's 

462
00:23:44,120 --> 00:23:46,920
very, that's very good, Devin 
Singletary feels. 

463
00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:48,720
Yeah, very good. 
Yeah, No, it's. 

464
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,200
It's it's the worst. 
They're not going to do anything

465
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:53,320
for a while. 
Not for a while. 

466
00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:55,600
The other thing with the Packers
is they're they're one of these 

467
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,440
organizations that doesn't make 
splashy trades free agent 

468
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,680
signings. 
Buddy, they traded, just not 

469
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:04,920
really Micah Parsons last year. 
OK. 

470
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,000
Well, week week 1. 
Yeah, damn, I got. 

471
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,480
I got hit with a. 
That's fair. 

472
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:12,720
Let's go. 
We're so bad. 

473
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:14,960
That's a good. 
That's a good counter. 

474
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,720
That's a. 
Good counter I I because the The

475
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,880
thing is, is that they were 
considering firing their coach. 

476
00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,840
I actually think I actually 
think kind of the opposite. 

477
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,400
This, this Green Bay Packers 
roster, this current collection 

478
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:31,120
of coaches and players have been
some of the the worst playoff 

479
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,920
chokers, underperformers. 
Like the fans. 

480
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,960
I hate Lafleur. 
They want him gone, gone. 

481
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:39,560
So I I actually think the 
opposite. 

482
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:42,080
They're also wrong. 
I, I Hey. 

483
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,280
I'm not saying I'm not a big 
Lafleur defender, but like like 

484
00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,000
you could like, it gets so much 
worse than Matt Lafleur. 

485
00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:49,760
He's kind of McDermott, isn't 
he? 

486
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,320
Karain, don't you? 
I mean, you, you know this I'd. 

487
00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:54,000
Much rather have Lafleur than 
McDermott. 

488
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,200
You, you know this better than 
anyone. 

489
00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,200
I want offensive guys. 
Yeah, that's fantasy. 

490
00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:03,640
You are, you are, I mean you are
a rotor world blurb rider. 

491
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:08,240
You are, you are close to this. 
You know, play fans don't think 

492
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:10,080
that far ahead. 
They hate the current coach, but

493
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:12,080
they don't think about how they 
they don't think about how bad 

494
00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,560
it could be. 
They don't have an owner. 

495
00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:19,080
There's no owners in in Green 
Bay that has to answer to any 

496
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:22,000
sort of pressure. 
When McDermott was fired, we had

497
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,840
the Bills owner in the locker 
room looking at guys with tears 

498
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,040
in their eyes, like, all right, 
that's it. 

499
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,280
I mean, Green Bay doesn't really
have that. 

500
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,080
They have Mark Murphy, who's not
an owner. 

501
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,480
There might be a different 
dynamic there that matters. 

502
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:36,200
They're not going to do anything
for a while. 

503
00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:41,760
That I agree with final answer 
for me, I moved, I I moved 

504
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,920
Jacobs down to to the Deemont 
range Pat that's where I moved 

505
00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:46,120
him. 
Yeah, that's how I'm going to do

506
00:25:46,120 --> 00:25:47,440
that. 
What is that as well? 

507
00:25:47,560 --> 00:25:52,600
Like high 50s. 
High 50s and frankly, if I'm 

508
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,560
being if I'm being honest, I'm 
probably just clicking Tootin 

509
00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:02,040
anyway. 
I mean, I I think I look tootin 

510
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:06,320
gets to the range where it's 
like there's a chance Jacobs 

511
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:08,680
isn't suspended at all, you 
know, and you're getting fifth 

512
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,720
round Josh Jacobs. 
You certainly rather have fifth 

513
00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,240
round Josh Jacobs. 
You know, this is not this is 

514
00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,680
ends up being a nothing burger 
than Tootin. 

515
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:21,440
But also, like when you tell me 
that Josh Jacobs, you know, I 

516
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,280
might miss a ton of time for 
domestic violence and I could 

517
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,920
take facial toot instead. 
I want to do that. 

518
00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:31,960
That's what I want to do. 
I'm not saying it's smart. 111 

519
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:35,200
more comp before we move on. 
Although this is really 

520
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,680
interesting. 
I know it's not Deshawn 

521
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,120
Stribling where you could go all
night, but this is still really 

522
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,400
good. 
I think is Kareem Hunt where you

523
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,040
had one in the middle of a 
season. 

524
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,840
Yeah, someone mentioned that on 
on my stream, yeah. 

525
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,680
Half an hour later, he was cut 
on a team that was contending in

526
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,440
the middle of the year. 
Like that was just like, all 

527
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,280
right. 
We got video that's. 

528
00:26:53,360 --> 00:26:55,360
Bad is there video is another 
question we should be. 

529
00:26:55,360 --> 00:26:56,800
Asking I gotta be. 
I gotta be. 

530
00:26:56,920 --> 00:26:59,920
I gotta be so real. 
You know why Kansas City was 

531
00:26:59,920 --> 00:27:01,880
able to do that and take the 
moral High Road? 

532
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,080
He was on a rookie contract. 
It was so easy for them to do. 

533
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,320
Financially it didn't matter. 
Can't, can't, can't do it when a

534
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:12,320
guy's making whatever 18,000,000
like Josh Jacobs, I think is 

535
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,880
like the seventh highest paid 
running back in the. 

536
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,640
NFL, then it's in the courts. 
Yep, that's. 

537
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:18,360
Right. 
I it like it's it. 

538
00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:21,320
Well, and I mean, you see this 
all the time, like running 

539
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:24,600
backs, like a running back on a 
rookie contract, like Darius 

540
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:25,840
guys. 
Yep, sorry, dude, gone. 

541
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,400
You're off the team. 
If you were a wide receiver. 

542
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,720
Well, hey, we'll see what the 
courts say, right? 

543
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,200
There's a reason. 
There's a reason why There's a 

544
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:38,240
reason why every time the Chiefs
are asked about Rashi Rice, Andy

545
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,640
Reid never says that fucking guy
pissing me off. 

546
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,080
It's always, you know, man, 
we're we're really praying for 

547
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,440
Rashi. 
We're really hoping that he 

548
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,080
figures things out. 
What's his name? 

549
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:49,920
Sean McVeigh gets asked about 
Puka Nakua. 

550
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:51,840
Dude, we got to put our arm 
around him. 

551
00:27:52,120 --> 00:27:54,840
You know, we got to guess what? 
If Ronnie Rivers did any of the 

552
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:57,920
shit that Puka had done, If if 
Ronnie Rivers was saying like 

553
00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:02,760
racial slurs on a a kick stream,
Rodney Rivers is getting cut 

554
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,760
cut. 
You know, that's just how it is.

555
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,560
That's the world. 
That's the world. 

556
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:09,480
All right, so we're moving 
Jacobs down a couple rounds. 

557
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,920
Are we moving anybody up? 
I'd take Lloyd. 

558
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,480
I'd take Lloyd in the last 
round, I think 18th. 

559
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,920
Round. 
Yeah, no sooner. 

560
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,320
I wouldn't take him any sooner 
than that just because I think 

561
00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:25,080
they're so likely to add someone
and you at that point, you're 

562
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,760
kind of chasing, chasing your 
own tail. 

563
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:31,600
I think Lloyd is certainly 
clickable in the last round. 

564
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:38,640
I'm not sure like how excited I 
am about it, but you know, it's 

565
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,720
he probably like you could have 
made a case for him. 

566
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,760
Someone was in the chat saying 
like, I've got a bunch of them, 

567
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:46,920
Like it wasn't insane to be 
drafting. 

568
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:52,600
I think maybe kind of a little 
bit early on, like this guy have

569
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,640
a role, you know, because 
because they they always were 

570
00:28:56,520 --> 00:29:00,360
the Packers could have always 
been signing James Conner, you 

571
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,360
know, post cut type of situation
or bring in Nazi Harris. 

572
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,120
Like I think they're always kind
of in the mix for one of these 

573
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,600
guys. 
So it's always been like a 

574
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,400
little thin, but certainly now 
like, yeah, if you're like 

575
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:12,920
whatever, dude, like I'm gonna 
I'm just gonna start drafting 

576
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,080
him in the 18th. 
I think it's. 

577
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:19,040
I think it's fine. 
All right, Pat, you famously 

578
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:21,880
said on a previous episode of 
this show, You will not be a 

579
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,120
slave to the slides. 
We do have slides. 

580
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:30,120
And we're half an hour in. 
And here's one with the 

581
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,960
president hanging out with 
Jackson Dart. 

582
00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:37,640
Yeah, hanging out a little 
Netflix and chill with Jackson 

583
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,360
Dart. 
As as ever with the president, 

584
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,360
it's. 
Sort of a normal comments about 

585
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,600
our guy Jackson legs. 
He's got leg. 

586
00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,000
He's got legs like tree trunks, 
dude, Yeah. 

587
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,840
Is that good? 
This is not a good thing for 

588
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,040
women. 
Is a in what I would like a 

589
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,000
little clarification on there. 
I mean it's. 

590
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:57,240
Just it's just for what? 
It wasn't much sense. 

591
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,200
You know, Donald Trump, Donald 
Trump came of age trying to get 

592
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:04,320
musicals financed and, and he 
loves Jackson Dart. 

593
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,120
I mean, we finally had our first
gay president and and somehow 

594
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,080
it's Donald Trump. 
It's such a bummer. 

595
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,480
Is it? 
It's like he doesn't. 

596
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:15,520
Donald Trump's like coming out 
but doesn't realize it. 

597
00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:21,080
But he's like. 
It's never not. 

598
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,240
And then and then Abdul, and 
then Abdul Carter. 

599
00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:27,920
And then Abdul Carter is like, 
hey, what the fuck's going on? 

600
00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,680
And then I'm. 
Sure, I like to have Dakarter's 

601
00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:31,880
reaction a lot. 
Someone, someone from the Giants

602
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,800
I'm sure, made him then tweet. 
Hey man, I talked to Dart. 

603
00:30:34,800 --> 00:30:36,120
It's all good. 
It's all good. 

604
00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:37,480
Deleted everything right, Didn't
he? 

605
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,800
Yeah, yeah. 
That really solves the problem, 

606
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,440
doesn't it? 
Yeah, I don't know. 

607
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,720
We have no idea how he thinks. 
If you're if like the current 

608
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:49,160
regime is bringing you on to 
like their stuff, like you can't

609
00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,200
delete it, my man. 
Like this. 

610
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,280
This lives on past whatever 
you're tweeting. 

611
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,440
What's the difference it? 
Doesn't. 

612
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,160
Yeah, it's just Yeah, it doesn't
really help. 

613
00:31:00,640 --> 00:31:06,440
I'm I'm starting to be worried 
every every giant storyline. 

614
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,920
Has there been 1 normal Giants 
thing that's happened this 

615
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:13,560
offseason? 
Name name 1 normal thing that 

616
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,120
happened with the Giants this 
offseason? 

617
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,760
Like what? 
It's always. 

618
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,200
Like, well, I mean, there has 
been like there, there has been 

619
00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:23,000
some actionable stuff on, on 
Dart where we've actually raised

620
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:27,480
him on some positive reports out
of camp, local beat writer said.

621
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,760
I'm looking at Jackson, I'm 
looking at the legs there. 

622
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,480
He's this beautiful guy. 
He's got legs like tree trunks. 

623
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,440
This is not a good thing for 
women. 

624
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,240
And you know that that was 
pretty bullish coming out, 

625
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:39,880
coming out of camp. 
Yeah, signals he might run more 

626
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:41,920
this year, I think, based on 
what I'm getting. 

627
00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:43,720
Out of the legs. 
Yeah, Yeah. 

628
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:44,600
That's what that's like. 
True. 

629
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,680
Pete, Pete had a if you, if 
you've not seen, if you've not 

630
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:52,480
seen the swole cast today, it's 
literally worth it for Pete's 

631
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,760
Jackson Dart joke today. 
I'm not even. 

632
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:55,840
I'm not. 
Even gonna reproduce. 

633
00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:57,960
I'm not even gonna I'm. 
Not gonna reproduce it. 

634
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,600
You gotta go, You gotta go watch
it. 

635
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:06,040
This is not a good thing for 
women is incredible on many 

636
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:07,880
levels. 
Well, because what I like about 

637
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,960
it, this is not a good thing for
women is like, just to clarify, 

638
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:18,560
I mean this sexually. 
Is there any other possibility? 

639
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,680
There's no other possibility. 
Like just what is the point 

640
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,800
though? 
It doesn't many levels. 

641
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:32,280
It's incredible insane. 
No, no, normal. 

642
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:35,040
It's it's and it's gonna 
continue being this way as long 

643
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:38,760
as it's like Malik neighbors 
goes on the draft show can't 

644
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:42,000
walk like needs help getting up 
off the couch four months after 

645
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,720
his ACL reconstructive search. 
It's all good there. 

646
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,120
Don't worry about it. 
Don't worry about it. 

647
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:52,080
Malik neighbors is fine. 
Cam scataboo is like, like what 

648
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,480
is his? 
I don't his whole deal. 

649
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:55,240
You don't see him. 
He's standing just fine at the 

650
00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:59,240
rally here. 
Trump didn't say anything about 

651
00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:00,400
Scatabo's legs. 
That's yeah. 

652
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,200
He's jumping up and down, 
holding that. 

653
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,080
That's a red flag, yeah. 
That's he looks healthy as hell.

654
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,560
This is not a good thing for 
women. 

655
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,320
Can you believe that? 
Can it? 

656
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,800
Just don't. 
Even becomes. 

657
00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:12,680
I don't even really know what it
means. 

658
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:16,000
I don't know that's that's not 
good another level. 

659
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,160
Well, in several levels. 
That's not a good thing. 

660
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:22,080
God, they hired Matt Nagy. 
The giants. 

661
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:23,840
This is something that I keep 
forgetting. 

662
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:28,120
They hired Matt Nagy and and 
Greg Roman and Connor Rogers, 

663
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,600
the, the beat writer said. 
Guys, don't worry about it. 

664
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,360
If it's not going well, Harbaugh
will just fire them. 

665
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:36,880
They'll just fire them. 
That's what the wrestling. 

666
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:40,000
They did. 
Brian Callahan also on the staff

667
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,400
for some reason. 
Got to bring in. 

668
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,000
I don't even. 
I mean, that's like, that's like

669
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,800
when Karina and I realized that 
Freddie Kitchens was the tight 

670
00:33:46,840 --> 00:33:48,200
end coach. 
Yeah. 

671
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,600
Greg Roman being on this staff 
is is kind of the Freddie 

672
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,800
Kitchen moment it. 
Does it does sort of make you 

673
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,520
wonder if this is the new 
cabinet, the Giants staff, 

674
00:33:58,520 --> 00:33:59,920
they're gonna. 
They're got, I mean. 

675
00:33:59,920 --> 00:34:02,000
Might be some overlap. 
I think well, there's used to 

676
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,960
clearly in scatter. 
But maybe G Gen. says there's 

677
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:05,560
some additional connections 
here. 

678
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,600
So yeah, maybe, maybe the Giants
are going to be bringing the. 

679
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,000
Giants. 
I hit the best team in New York.

680
00:34:12,199 --> 00:34:13,920
Hit again. 
I wouldn't be so sure, man. 

681
00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:16,360
Gino Gino back in the the 
homeland. 

682
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:18,960
Giants on prime time weeks one 
and two. 

683
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,080
Just what we all needed. 
Sunday night. 

684
00:34:22,080 --> 00:34:24,520
Monday night, well. 
Let's get Trump on the broadcast

685
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,800
for that. 
That'll happen, probably. 

686
00:34:28,679 --> 00:34:32,320
What's What's next? 
What is next? 

687
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,639
I should know. 
Oh, it's Sam and Basil. 

688
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,120
Oh oh boy, oh boy. 
Wow. 

689
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:41,880
Wow, that's an old photo that's 
pulled up. 

690
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,679
There that is an old. 
Photo that. 

691
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,520
What's the story with the photo?
What? 

692
00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,120
Is this like what happened? 
What's happened? 

693
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,920
Because I was going to say 
you've you're skinnier in the 

694
00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:55,199
photo, but you're skinny now. 
So that's not, it's like, it's 

695
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:56,880
not like you like, Oh, Sam's. 
Game. 

696
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:58,720
No. 
Yeah, it's the hairline. 

697
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:01,200
The hairline. 
The hairline took a lot of 

698
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,880
damage over the last 10 years 
when this photo was taken. 

699
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,400
I'm also much paler because I 
sit behind my desk all day 

700
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:10,720
rather than, I don't know, 
whatever. 

701
00:35:10,720 --> 00:35:14,160
I was doing so you didn't get 
you didn't get sun hella skins. 

702
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:20,360
I got a little sun, hella 
skiing, but, you know, it fades 

703
00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:22,520
away. 
Yeah, Tootin. 

704
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:25,600
Should we we? 
We shouldn't really care about 

705
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:29,280
his his fluky lack of explosive 
runs last year, right? 

706
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:30,200
No. 
Is that Sam? 

707
00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:33,240
That Sam. 
You are, you are. 

708
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,600
You are numerate enough to 
understand that that it's just 

709
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,160
not enough care. 
Highly vowel This is that didn't

710
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,400
vowel for you I. 
Know yeah, this is the new This 

711
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,200
is John Robinson had 0 rushes 
under 32 yards for the first two

712
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:51,080
years of his career. 
I I did mean that question 

713
00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,280
genuinely and not. 
Yeah, no, we know you're not 

714
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,240
trolling. 
You've never. 

715
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,320
Trolled before. 
I would never, I would never 

716
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:02,320
troll with Mitchell Dutton. 
Yeah, he's I I would take him 

717
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,800
over to Josh Jacobs. 
That's all the the primary, the 

718
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:07,680
primary reason, the primary 
reason why I don't care is 

719
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:11,160
actually many of the runs that 
he got were given in a part of 

720
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,640
the field where even if he were 
to breakthrough the line 

721
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,480
untouched, smashed through his 
safety, the field would have 

722
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,080
ended because because a bunch of
his carries came inside the 20 

723
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,080
yard line. 4 for 51 in the 
playoff game. 

724
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,240
Yeah, if he would have gotten 
five more rushes in that game, 

725
00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:27,880
guess what he would have had? 
He would have his first 

726
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,160
underwear game. 
The Bills. 

727
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:31,240
The Bills had no fucking chance.
They. 

728
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,360
Win. 
I think so too. 

729
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,080
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

730
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,040
Bucky Irving Wow, did this lead 
get buried today? 

731
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:42,040
This So this lead did get 
buried. 

732
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,200
We were doing. 
I actually don't think it did. 

733
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,600
I don't think this lead. 
Was buried, correct? 

734
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,880
No, but Crane people are 
freaking out. 

735
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,960
I did a we did a BBM on the 
swoll cast today. 

736
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:55,800
He went in the sixth round. 
He went in the Bucky, Irving 

737
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:57,800
went in the dude. 
He went after Tootin. 

738
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,400
He went before Josh Jacobs, 
dude. 

739
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,640
I I just I couldn't like the the
we knew he had this surgery. 

740
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:13,360
It's it's he returned from this 
injury and played last year. 

741
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:14,960
Why are we why are we freaking 
out? 

742
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:15,720
Bro? 
What? 

743
00:37:15,720 --> 00:37:17,160
What's what's? 
Going on, we're freaking out 

744
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,360
because I listen, I did freak 
out. 

745
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:24,720
I want it on the record that I 
freaked out because I saw the 

746
00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:29,280
quote that Todd Bowles said that
Bucky Irving will be back 

747
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,600
sometime in the summer or fall 
and thought that seems bearish 

748
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,520
as hell. 
And then I went and I looked, I 

749
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,640
was like, is this like, what's 
up? 

750
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:41,440
Is this real? 
You know, I went on Rotoworld. 

751
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:44,360
They'd grabbed it. 
The reaction was, God damn, 

752
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,960
that's bearish. 
You know, and I'm like digging 

753
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,360
around. 
So I'm messaging the guys like, 

754
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:53,320
this seems super, super bad. 
Like he's mentioning the fall in

755
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:54,520
May. 
Yes. 

756
00:37:55,440 --> 00:37:59,600
Is he like is, is is he like not
interested in playing football 

757
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,760
anymore? 
Like, where are we Like, why is 

758
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:05,520
he mentioning the fall? 
You get to the actual quote. 

759
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:10,200
Bulls is like being weird. 
Like he's like it. 

760
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,440
It's a weird thing to say. 
Like he's like he's here. 

761
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,720
He's doing all the things. 
He's like, done everything we've

762
00:38:14,720 --> 00:38:17,320
asked him to do. 
He's like, rehabbing's gone 

763
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:20,560
great. 
And you know he'll be back 

764
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,000
sometime in the summer or fall, 
like. 

765
00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:28,320
So my theory is if if you live 
in Tampa Bay, Florida, do you 

766
00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:31,920
have a really good grasp on the 
transition between summer and 

767
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,720
fall, right? 
Like if you're in New England, 

768
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:36,600
you know when you know summer 
ends when the fall starts. 

769
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,040
If you're in, he might not 
really know when fall starts. 

770
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:41,560
That's that's my do you. 
Think he thinks falls. 

771
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:45,200
In August, he might, yeah, he 
might think fall is still like 

772
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,960
late August, might be fall like.
To him, fall is just the start 

773
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:51,480
of the football season. 
I think I think he would put so 

774
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,080
little thought into like what he
was saying that he was like 

775
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,200
he'll be back in the summer or 
and then in his head he's like, 

776
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:58,880
I don't fucking know, like at 
some point. 

777
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,400
And then he said fall in his he 
like fall comes after summer. 

778
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:03,720
So you left out. 
You left. 

779
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,680
Out the last line of his actual 
quote, which was this is not 

780
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:11,280
good news for women. 
You forgot to mention that. 

781
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,520
I don't know why it's got to be 
political while you left that 

782
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:14,760
out. 
This is not a good thing. 

783
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,440
Political. 
That's censorship show. 

784
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:20,520
I'm censoring Todd Bowles. 
I mean, come on, I I love Sam's 

785
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:26,760
point here, but Bowles is an 
older coach who's been around 

786
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,000
forever and has not only lived 
in Florida. 

787
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,120
Like, I know you're not super 
serious about it, but why would 

788
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:35,560
you even think to say or fall? 
Why wouldn't you just even pipe 

789
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,120
him? 
I, I think in, in his mind, he 

790
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,840
meant he'll either be back 
towards the end of this series 

791
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,280
of training camp or he'll be 
back for real training camp. 

792
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:46,320
That's what that's what I think 
Bowles meant. 

793
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:52,600
OK. 52 So for me on this, I did 
not like I'm not reacting to the

794
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,080
news even like I think Schefter 
came out and like tweeted, you 

795
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,240
know, he's still expected back 
by training camp. 

796
00:39:58,240 --> 00:40:01,720
Like I think this is like an 
ultimate non story. 

797
00:40:01,720 --> 00:40:04,840
I have like before this always 
thought that. 

798
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:10,200
Bucky and Gainwell's prices 
should be a little bit closer 

799
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,760
together just because of all the
weirdness that happened last 

800
00:40:12,760 --> 00:40:15,000
year. 
They they paid Gainwell real 

801
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,840
money this offseason, like 10 
million guaranteed. 

802
00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:21,080
That's more than guys like 
Dobbins, Algier, you know, my 

803
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,640
favorite player, Chris 
Rodriguez, Rico Dabble more than

804
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,520
all those guys got. 
He had a real role last year in 

805
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,000
Pittsburgh, 77 receptions. 
Like that's nothing to hand wave

806
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,600
away in my opinion. 
And also I don't, I don't know 

807
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,720
about you guys. 
Like he, he showed a bit more of

808
00:40:35,720 --> 00:40:38,600
a touch ceiling than I thought 
was possible for Kenny Gainwell 

809
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,800
with Jalen Warren out last year 
in Week 4, he racked up 26, 

810
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:47,600
yeah, 26 touches in a game, 30 
half PPR points, 19 carries, 6 

811
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,280
targets. 
Like, I think there's a chance 

812
00:40:50,280 --> 00:40:55,640
that if Kenny Gainwell wasn't 
buried in Philadelphia to start 

813
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:58,520
his career, you know, 
stylistically a really terrible 

814
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:00,720
fit with Jalen Hurts, who does 
not really check it down to 

815
00:41:00,720 --> 00:41:02,640
running backs at all. 
I think there's a chance. 

816
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,920
Like, we would think his talent 
level is a little bit higher 

817
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,480
than we we think it is, you 
know, based on what happened 

818
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,440
last season. 
So I just think I've always 

819
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,920
thought this gap. 
Should I? 

820
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,960
I still much prefer Bucky. 
I just think Bucky's like around

821
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:19,800
overvalued and Gainwell's like a
little bit undervalued, right? 

822
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,840
But. 
Yeah, I like that point about 

823
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,160
Week 4, Sam. 
That was the game in maybe 

824
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,920
Dublin against the Vikings and I
thought just eye test. 

825
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,560
Gainerwell looked great that 
day. 

826
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:33,320
He was awesome, Yeah, and true 
workhorse role inside the five 

827
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:36,440
touches got all that. 
Which by the way, I think the 

828
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:39,240
other interesting thing about 
the box is just how they split 

829
00:41:39,240 --> 00:41:42,160
up the inside the five touches 
last year with I know Bucky was 

830
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,440
out for a huge chunk of the 
season. 

831
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,720
There's there's certainly some 
small sample flukiness in it, 

832
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:49,080
but him getting 0 inside the 
five touches and and Sean 

833
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,440
Tucker, who's still on the 
roster, I think getting like 60%

834
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,320
of the teams inside the five 
touches last season. 

835
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,080
It it's just kind of, it's an 
interesting profile for, for a 

836
00:41:59,080 --> 00:42:02,520
guy like Irving with how early 
he goes and his potential to get

837
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,360
squeezed from from multiple 
directions. 

838
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,640
Yeah, I mean, Gainwell when he 
entered the league, which was 

839
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:12,720
back in 2021, you know, pop for 
me as like a second round rookie

840
00:42:12,720 --> 00:42:16,760
pick type, which is the same 
tier that Bucky Irving was in 

841
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,680
when he came in. 
Obviously Bucky immediately 

842
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:23,760
started producing and I still 
prefer Bucky quite a bit to 

843
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,400
Gainwell, who's taken a few 
years to even kind of carve out 

844
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,000
like a secondary role. 
But I mean, when you look at 

845
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:34,520
Gainwell, like he he was super 
explosive in college. 

846
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,720
He had a 53% breakaway 
percentage, 48 breakaway yards 

847
00:42:37,720 --> 00:42:41,120
per game, which is pretty good. 
He had 2.46 yards per outrun, 

848
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:43,320
which is elite. 
Like really, really strong 

849
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:47,000
stuff. 
He he didn't have like he was, 

850
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,080
he was kind of a committee back 
in college at Memphis. 

851
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,360
He broke some tackles. 
He was decently consistent, but 

852
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,040
he just like didn't get a ton of
work. 

853
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,720
And so with the guy like, 
Gainwell, you're like, hey, if a

854
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:04,320
guy he kind of like Bucky, we're
like, hey, if a team ever 

855
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,560
decided to like make this dude 
their starter, he could be 

856
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:08,600
awesome. 
But probably that's never going 

857
00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:12,440
to happen. 
And so Gainwell, you know, 

858
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:14,640
they're they're talking about 
him like he's kind of like Bucky

859
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:16,560
and like he is kind of like 
Bucky. 

860
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,040
He's probably not someone you're
going to treat as a true 

861
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,640
workhorse starter ever. 
But I do. 

862
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,000
It's like not great to have him 
in the backfield, especially if 

863
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,520
the team values him, right. 
It's like one thing to have him 

864
00:43:30,520 --> 00:43:33,240
there because they took him in 
like the third or the on day 

865
00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:35,440
three and you know, he's kind of
learning the offense or 

866
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:36,600
whatever. 
Like they brought him in, they 

867
00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,720
paid him pretty good money. 
He he could be a thorn in his 

868
00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:44,200
side, which like fortunately, 
like we lowered Bucky Irving a 

869
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,400
week ago now kind of on just 
like continued bearishness 

870
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:50,520
around this being a true 
committee. 

871
00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:55,640
And I think Sean Tucker's good. 
So it just creates a kind of a 

872
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,040
headache for for this whole 
backfield. 

873
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:02,600
Another thing I'll note on the 
Bucks, I don't think Zach 

874
00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:04,080
Robinson's a good offensive 
coordinator. 

875
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:09,680
I don't get the Hireright. 
We saw this team be great under 

876
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:11,520
Canales. 
It was great under Cohen. 

877
00:44:11,720 --> 00:44:13,240
Really like an offense we wanted
to invest in. 

878
00:44:13,240 --> 00:44:16,800
They struggled last year. 
They bring in Robinson, who I 

879
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:20,760
thought kind of was it's like, I
don't understand why he was in 

880
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,920
the mix for another OC job after
what he did in Atlanta last 

881
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,080
year. 
So I, I don't like, I could see 

882
00:44:27,080 --> 00:44:29,520
this being one of those 
backfields where ultimately 

883
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:33,200
we're like, why were we drafting
3 bucks running backs? 

884
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:37,760
You know, and I I do draft, I 
draft all three of them. 

885
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:39,720
I don't draft as much Gainwell 
as you can see. 

886
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:43,360
The funny thing is Jacobs now 
the Gainwell Bowl after we had 

887
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:47,120
the whole argument about him. 
But you know, I I don't have a 

888
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,440
ton of gain. 
Well, I draft some some Tucker 

889
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,480
late for sure. 
I think he's he's pretty 

890
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,240
interesting. 
And Bucky when he gets into the 

891
00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:59,840
fifth round, I like him there. 
But yeah, I mean, I I also do 

892
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:01,760
I'm the lowest on all three of 
them. 

893
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:03,680
And I think some of that's 
because of the Bucks offense a 

894
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:05,920
little bit. 
Does it mean anything to you 

895
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:08,640
guys that Tucker had eight 
touchdowns last year? 

896
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:10,240
How did that happen? 
Yeah, he's good. 

897
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:12,800
Yes, he's good at that. 
Yeah, he. 

898
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:15,440
Would not He would not have had 
a heart issue coming out of the 

899
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,200
final year of Syracuse. 
He probably would have been like

900
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,960
a third round pick. 
Straight up, the the That's who 

901
00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:21,960
the Packers should get. 
Go get Sean Tucker. 

902
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:24,520
What would you have to give? 
I'd much rather Sean Tucker than

903
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:26,320
Kimani Videl. 
It'd be tough today. 

904
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:30,880
It'd be it'd be tough today. 
Summer or fall, they, they also 

905
00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,360
paid Tucker like, again, like 
digging too much into this 

906
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,160
contract stuff can sometimes 
mislead you. 

907
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,280
But they they didn't give him 
like the league minimum. 

908
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,880
He got three and a half million 
guaranteed from the Bucks. 

909
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,000
Like that's more than the Brian 
Robinson tier, more than a bunch

910
00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:46,240
of the league minimum deal. 
So I, I do think they have a 

911
00:45:46,240 --> 00:45:48,320
real Tucker. 
Tucker, Yeah. 

912
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:50,240
It was A tag though. 
It was A tag. 

913
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:52,200
Well, like, yeah, but they could
have not. 

914
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:54,880
They could have not tagged him. 
They could have not tagged him 

915
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,680
like they valued him at 3 point.
Yeah, I get it. 

916
00:45:58,680 --> 00:45:59,560
That's true. 
That's true. 

917
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:02,640
Yeah. 
And yeah, I mean, I think the 

918
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,120
role he's going to have is what 
he had last year, which is he 

919
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:10,320
had 50% of 55% of inside the 
five rush attempts, like base 

920
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,720
projection wise. 
Certainly he can lose that if if

921
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:17,040
Bucky is fully back and wins 
that rollback. 

922
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:19,800
But I think Tucker's going to 
have the goal line role to start

923
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:21,600
the year. 
Would be surprised if he didn't.

924
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,400
OK, yeah, I mean, like, I mean 
show up. 

925
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:31,040
Are you, are you like, are you 
like, like the the coaches who 

926
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,800
when the guy goes nuts on your 
team, you you got to bring that 

927
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:34,840
guy in. 
Are you trying to get Sean 

928
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,080
Tucker on the Bills because he 
went nuts on the Bills? 

929
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:40,120
But. 
He did have 140 and three 

930
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:42,720
against them here. 
Last year crushed the Bills. 

931
00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:44,840
He looked so good. 
He looked so good. 

932
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:48,440
They had that trait. 
The Bills run defense where like

933
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,000
the Kendra Miller's and Sean 
Tucker. 

934
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:50,880
Yeah, yeah. 
Just sort. 

935
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,440
Of blew him up. 
Yeah. 

936
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,360
Although Denver didn't run on 
him and they still put up points

937
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,040
in the 30s and beat him in the 
playoffs. 

938
00:46:57,560 --> 00:46:59,400
I don't know. 
Yeah. 

939
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,120
I'll take him. 
I I mean, I think Tucker can 

940
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,240
play yeah and and yeah, like you
guys are saying, that's the hard

941
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:09,040
condition is why he fell He he 
could play in college like this 

942
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:13,240
is a good running back. 
It just could get messy here. 

943
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:16,960
I despite again kind of being a 
little bit lower than than you 

944
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,640
guys are on Tucker. 
I, I have a decent amount of him

945
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:22,160
I get I he's he's one of those 
late round running backs that 

946
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,720
I'm like maybe he's I he's not 
the RB2, but I'm like he he's 

947
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,040
the RB2 at the goal line. 
He might be the RB one at the. 

948
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:30,520
Goal. 
Probably the RB one at the goal 

949
00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:32,680
line. 
I think he's, yeah, I think he 

950
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:34,440
is Summer. 
Or fall, summer or fall. 

951
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:37,840
Kind of incident. 
We've got a digs video that I 

952
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:39,600
can't access. 
This is a first for me, not 

953
00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:43,480
being able to see the slide in 
advance and it's crushed out. 

954
00:47:43,720 --> 00:47:45,960
I think I can describe it. 
It's the. 

955
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,760
Worst workout video I've ever 
seen. 

956
00:47:48,160 --> 00:47:50,440
Yeah, he's like caught. 
On the next slide now. 

957
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,960
Yeah, it kind of looks like he's
just like humping the ground 

958
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:59,320
while he's doing the workout. 
He's doing, he's doing like 3, 

959
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:04,160
he's doing like 3 inch push ups 
with about 65 pounds, 65 lbs of 

960
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,080
plates on his back. 
It's, it's one of those, you 

961
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,760
know, personal trainers love to 
sell professional athletes. 

962
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,840
Absolute bullshit. 
It's, it's one of those where 

963
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,800
it's like, oh, you know, this is
gonna help with your appropriate

964
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:19,120
reception and your reaction 
timing and it's, it's terrible. 

965
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,320
They it's not something you 
should ever do. 

966
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:24,880
Another Stefan Diggs humping 
themed video I've been exposed 

967
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:26,760
to and I'm. 
Grateful this is this is not 

968
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:28,520
ideal. 
Yeah, appreciate that. 

969
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,240
He also locks eyes with the 
camera towards the end. 

970
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,520
Yeah, yeah. 
OK. 

971
00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:42,120
Stefan Diggs though, but like 
now that he is not going to I, I

972
00:48:42,120 --> 00:48:45,960
don't think he's going to find 
any suspension. 

973
00:48:46,040 --> 00:48:49,040
I mean, he's, he's basically my 
#1 receiver to get in drafts 

974
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,120
right now. 
Interesting. 

975
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,400
I think, I think there's the 
only bad spot he could sign is 

976
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:56,920
the Ravens. 
Like that would be the spot 

977
00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:58,280
where you'd be like, well fuck, 
now I. 

978
00:48:58,320 --> 00:49:00,440
Have Yeah no, the Ravens would 
never sign someone like Stefan 

979
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:01,200
Diggs. 
That's. 

980
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,560
Not their whole Ravens build 
their move. 

981
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,120
They'd never sign a 32 year old 
wide receiver, make it rare, a 

982
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:10,480
number he's never worn before, 
and then he's just like easily 

983
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,400
out of the NFL. 
After and he's like actually 

984
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:15,760
like pretty good when he plays 
but they like only play him 18 

985
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:18,000
snaps per game. 
It would never happen. 

986
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:19,680
To you it would. 
Never. 

987
00:49:19,680 --> 00:49:21,520
It would never. 
You know, It'd never be Dez 

988
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,840
Bryant, DeSean Jackson, DeAndre 
Hopkins. 

989
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:26,160
Totally impossible. 
Dez Bryant had targets in the 

990
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:29,120
playoff game here in after the 
in the COVID season. 

991
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,280
Incredible. 
What negligence? 

992
00:49:33,480 --> 00:49:35,920
Speaking of digs, 'cause I I 
just want to ask you guys about 

993
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,680
debo 'cause I I still am 
drafting a a good amount of 

994
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,240
debo. 
Raiders. 

995
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,800
Raiders would be great. 
Dolphins I would take, I would 

996
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,960
take Dolphins on, on Debo. 
What about back to the 49ers for

997
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:53,040
like a pittance? 
Well Davis, we we got 49 minutes

998
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,000
in this was a stribling, but 
they drafted to show dribbling 

999
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,080
with the. 
We're all big, so I don't think 

1000
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,960
a stribling hook. 
What about the No one really 

1001
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:04,760
mentions the Rams anymore for 
wide receiver editions for some 

1002
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:08,480
reason, but they're what they 
need. 3 is is Kanata Mumfield or

1003
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:09,400
Jordan Whittington. 
Oh, you're. 

1004
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:11,760
In it I thought you thought he 
was an interesting young 

1005
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,920
prospect. 
Yeah, no, he has a good yards 

1006
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,960
for outrun profile. 
Let me, let me pull that up. 

1007
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:23,200
How dare you. 
That is a very good pull, Pat. 

1008
00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:27,960
That was. 
Very good. 

1009
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:32,680
Well, well, I mean, to to extend
that thought even further about 

1010
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,760
going back to the Rams. 
They've let it be known. 

1011
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:37,320
I mean, they've really put it 
out there. 

1012
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,280
We kind of think Devante Adams 
might be cooked. 

1013
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,800
They were, they were maybe going
to take Makai Lemon. 

1014
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,560
They were involved in the trade.
It was reported. 

1015
00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:46,480
They've been involved in the 
trade discussions for A.J. 

1016
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:48,600
Brown. 
Like I think they know, Like 

1017
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:50,440
they don't think Adams is 
cooked. 

1018
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,560
They don't think he's cooked, 
but they know like he's 

1019
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,320
eventually going to be cooked. 
They they understand the balance

1020
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:57,920
of probability is we could show 
up in Week 4 and this guy could 

1021
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,840
his hamstring and could go and 
that could just be it. 

1022
00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:01,640
I mean. 
Not a mum, Feld. 

1023
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:03,960
Are you? 
Are you going for it or are you 

1024
00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:05,920
not? 
And they're always going for it.

1025
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,560
They're the Super Bowl favorite 
if he does land in LA. 

1026
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:11,520
Yeah, they're they're going for 
it by taking Ty Simpson. 

1027
00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:12,840
We know one thing. 
Come on. 

1028
00:51:13,240 --> 00:51:14,680
This is not a good thing for 
women. 

1029
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:18,520
If that happens, I'll keep 
pushing that on, Pat. 

1030
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:23,280
Stephan Diggs workout video. 
Not not get a full belly laugh 

1031
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,200
from me. 
It's a shirt. 

1032
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:28,960
Next next week in the cold open 
something using that line 

1033
00:51:30,600 --> 00:51:35,560
attempted. 
This is not a good thing for 

1034
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,120
women. 
That's the new name. 

1035
00:51:37,400 --> 00:51:40,280
I mean, it makes sense as a 
tagline for the show overall to.

1036
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:41,720
It does, yeah. 
No, it's. 

1037
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Just raise your hand if you have
a woman, a grown woman upstairs 

1038
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:49,200
in your house right now that 
you're not attending to or doing

1039
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,560
anything for. 
You know, it's all of us. 

1040
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,400
Probably not Pat. 
I live in a one time, it's a 

1041
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,840
one. 4 Ranger Ranger Ranger. 
Technicality. 

1042
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,640
Adjacent technicality. 
Mystery riser. 

1043
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,720
Hmm, this ought to be fun. 
I know the answer to this one. 

1044
00:52:05,720 --> 00:52:08,800
I I peaked. 
Who would you rather draft, T 

1045
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:11,680
Higgins or The Mystery? 
Riser. 

1046
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:16,520
That's Xavier worthy, I think. 
No. 

1047
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:18,560
I I peeked so I'm not going to 
guess. 

1048
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:24,880
I I haven't I haven't peaked 
yards per hour on 1.64 targets 

1049
00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:30,600
from 19.4%. 
Actually Xavier worth a year for

1050
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,080
our run I think might. 
Be let let me give you like a 

1051
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,640
route rate from last year to to 
help out with this 40, I think 

1052
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:43,280
45% average route participation 
in the season. 45% Trey. 

1053
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,280
Harris, Matthew. 
Gold. 

1054
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,000
Check that Let. 
Me Fact Check that hand. 

1055
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:50,320
He was in the one fives, I 
think. 

1056
00:52:50,320 --> 00:52:51,560
It's better than all these 
guesses. 

1057
00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:56,360
It's better guys all. 
These 40 Luther Burden. 

1058
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,480
No, he had way better. 
Yards per hour. 

1059
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,200
Yeah, he's like 2.82 yards per 
hour run Jaden. 

1060
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:07,200
Reed, try to get in Zack's head.
He's not giving you, you know. 

1061
00:53:07,800 --> 00:53:10,440
All that's in Zack's head is So 
you think You can tout. 

1062
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:11,920
That's the only thing that's in 
his head. 

1063
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,520
This dude. 
This dude, every minute he's 

1064
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,240
not, he's working with Peter on 
So You Think. 

1065
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,840
He had he had time for this. 
The chat, the chat's backing me 

1066
00:53:17,840 --> 00:53:20,680
up that I have that I have not 
peaked yet, so I appreciate 

1067
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,160
that. 
Guy, QJ. 

1068
00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,800
QJ No. 
No QJ. 

1069
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:26,360
Right, Sam? 
Way more. 

1070
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:31,160
Josh scans from the chat. 
No, it's a year three guy. 

1071
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:32,760
It's another year three guy 
though. 

1072
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:38,960
Another year 3. 
Guy Vlad Mcconkie Old Guy old. 

1073
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,920
For a year, Ricky Guy, not Ricky
Pierce. 

1074
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:43,040
Ricky Pierce. 
No, he'd had more rapid. 

1075
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,720
Position this guy is getting, 
he's getting drafted. 

1076
00:53:45,800 --> 00:53:48,160
In Adonai Mitchell. 
Closer. 

1077
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,720
Getting closer, closer ADP range
Wix. 

1078
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:54,800
He might be available in last 
call tonight. 

1079
00:53:56,720 --> 00:53:58,680
Not quite. 
Not quite. 

1080
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:02,000
Vele. 
Flournoy people have guessed. 

1081
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,120
Yes, yeah, yeah. 
Flournoy. 

1082
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,960
Yeah, Flournoy. 
I I don't really get it. 

1083
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,800
I don't really get Fortnoy. 
What I the Fortnoy? 

1084
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:14,680
Thing is, so it's just it is 
erasing the existence of Marquez

1085
00:54:14,680 --> 00:54:16,280
Valdo's gambling. 
It's like people actually don't 

1086
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:19,000
realize MBS is on the roster. 
MBS. 

1087
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,400
Got with that name. 
Got cut on the from the Seahawks

1088
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:26,760
last year and got like 100K 
guaranteed from the Cowboys. 

1089
00:54:27,120 --> 00:54:29,160
I I don't. 
Think hey, hey Zach, clip that 

1090
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:34,240
please everyone, everyone please
clip that after not. 

1091
00:54:34,240 --> 00:54:37,480
Sure, he gets. 
Cut no after Nathan Yankee blue 

1092
00:54:37,480 --> 00:54:39,600
skies. 
In a surprising move, Marquez 

1093
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,160
Baldness scaling was third 
amongst all wide receivers with 

1094
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:45,160
47 snaps played for the Cowboys 
Week 1. 

1095
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:48,160
Ryan Flournoy was forced into an
ancillary role. 

1096
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,920
Ancillary. 
Role. 

1097
00:54:50,440 --> 00:54:54,400
As ancillary role as CD Lamb's 
direct positional backup, that 

1098
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,760
leaves Flournoy's route ceiling 
at about 10 per game. 

1099
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:01,960
In other fantasy news, Sam 
Sherman, winner of Best Ball 

1100
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,760
Mania 6, an absolute shambles as
Marcus Baldus scantling catches 

1101
00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:10,640
3 balls for 40 yards and drops a
touchdown in Week 11. 

1102
00:55:12,320 --> 00:55:15,720
I'm sorry dude, Brian Flournoy 
is the most Marquez Callaway ass

1103
00:55:15,720 --> 00:55:19,160
pick on the board. 
Yeah, and that's why. 

1104
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:23,040
I'm not. 
I mean, Callaway, you know, in 

1105
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:25,880
fairness to the Flournoy 
drafters, got up into the tenth 

1106
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,480
round. 
Yeah, in fairness to the Thorn 

1107
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:33,560
rafters, I recall you touting 1.
Dontavian Wicks Who this he At 

1108
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:37,200
least he's not the wide receiver
for on on the Cowboys, just the 

1109
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,960
wide receiver 3. 
In fairness to the Flournoy 

1110
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:42,920
drafters is a beautiful. 
Fairness to the Flournoy 

1111
00:55:42,920 --> 00:55:44,440
drafters. 
That is a that is. 

1112
00:55:44,680 --> 00:55:47,240
AI think so with Flournoy, I 
don't know, I don't think he's 

1113
00:55:47,240 --> 00:55:52,160
some amazing pick, but I I think
that last year he he proved a 

1114
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:55,240
couple things. 
One, I think he's clearly the 

1115
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:57,640
the Cowboys preferred option for
wide receiver. 

1116
00:55:57,640 --> 00:56:01,200
Three, they let Jalen Tolbert 
go, who was actually started the

1117
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,760
season as wide receiver. 
Three, they let him go, they 

1118
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,360
scaled down Camante Turpin's 
role a lot towards the end of 

1119
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:08,760
the season. 
I don't really want to hear much

1120
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:12,520
about MVS, you know, making 100K
guaranteed, but we'll see on 

1121
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:14,880
that. 
Davis, he also proved I think he

1122
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:17,640
can have contingent upside when 
CD Lamb is out. 

1123
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:22,520
He had a 22 half PPR point game 
in week 14 when CD Lamb missed 

1124
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,800
most of the game with 
concussion. 

1125
00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:28,520
He had a 15 half PPR point game 
in Week 5 when CD was out. 

1126
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:32,240
This is just an offense that is 
going to throw the ball a ton. 

1127
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:35,600
I think regardless of you know 
the personnel that's out there. 

1128
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:41,360
I think if either CD or George 
Pickens missed time, Flournoy 

1129
00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,280
sees a pretty big boost in 
targets and I think he can be OK

1130
00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:47,760
enough, you know, as an 18th, 
17th round pick. 

1131
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,920
Like even if those guys stay 
healthy, just as a year three 

1132
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,600
player coming off 1.7 yards for 
Outrun, like it was a solid 

1133
00:56:54,600 --> 00:56:56,920
enough season that I'll buy into
it a little bit. 

1134
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:00,360
But yeah, I guess like comparing
him to like another team wide 

1135
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,080
receiver three that goes in that
range. 

1136
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,240
Like Isaac, Tesla goes 10 picks.
Earlier, Tesla's a terrible 

1137
00:57:06,240 --> 00:57:07,720
pick. 
OK. 

1138
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,280
This is a terrible but, but the 
thing I think, Sam, that the, 

1139
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,600
the tough part with your 
argument, which I don't really 

1140
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,400
disagree with, is that he's not 
going in the 16th round. 

1141
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:21,880
He's going, he's going in the 
15th. 

1142
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,800
Like he's risen up past where 
like 16th, 17th, 18th like, but 

1143
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:30,040
he's in the 15th now. 
Like when I think about Ryan 

1144
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:33,800
Flournoy, he's gone and he's 
like he's gone like 10 picks 

1145
00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:38,400
ago, You know, Like he it's just
like I don't really get as a guy

1146
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:42,720
who you're taking like as a 
Dantavian witch type of pick, as

1147
00:57:42,720 --> 00:57:45,760
an AD Mitchell type of pig where
you're like, I like him better 

1148
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:47,120
than Mitchell. 
Is the wider Super 3 on The 

1149
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:48,440
Jets? 
I mean, the wider Super 3 on the

1150
00:57:48,440 --> 00:57:52,520
Cowboys, sure. 
But like that was 50 picks ago, 

1151
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:54,760
man. 
You know, he's, he's a long, 

1152
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:57,360
Yeah. 
I do think like when you get to 

1153
00:57:57,360 --> 00:58:00,520
that range, like so he's going 
next to other wide receiver 

1154
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,000
threes. 
I mean, I guess Ridley is 

1155
00:58:03,040 --> 00:58:05,160
debatable if he's the two or 
three, depending on what you 

1156
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:09,040
think of Wandale, Jerry, Judy, I
guess also debatable depending 

1157
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,040
on the guys that they brought in
this year. 

1158
00:58:12,320 --> 00:58:14,520
So I think it depends what like 
if if you're looking for more of

1159
00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:17,040
the upside, like rookie arc 
type, like I think it's totally 

1160
00:58:17,040 --> 00:58:22,720
fine to go with like the 
stribling, whatever branch guys,

1161
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,800
Chris Bell over him. 
I guess if you are just like 

1162
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:29,360
looking for more of the, the 
veteran type, I like don't have 

1163
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,120
a problem with them relative to 
other veterans in that range. 

1164
00:58:32,120 --> 00:58:34,240
So I don't know. 
I, I I guess I'm just saying I 

1165
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,240
don't think he's a horrible 
pick. 

1166
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:36,800
I don't think he's he's an 
amazing thing by any means. 

1167
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:40,920
You know, soon enough we have to
talk about some of the headshot 

1168
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,280
changes, like the Higgins one 
threw me, right? 

1169
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,280
It's a different headshot. 
And some are talking, including 

1170
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:48,680
Pete on his show this morning 
talking about Trevor Lawrence 

1171
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,160
and the the shorter hair. 
There are changes in the 

1172
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,720
landscape in one of these weeks 
will be quieter. 

1173
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:57,520
For news, we can dig into the 
headshots. 

1174
00:58:57,520 --> 00:59:00,520
I know you guys would love that.
Risers, Zach. 

1175
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:03,200
Zach called this list the 
saddest he'd ever seen. 

1176
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,120
It's pretty bad. 
It's pretty. 

1177
00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:08,440
It's pretty bad. 
Erin Rodger, Xavier Worthy, Ted 

1178
00:59:08,440 --> 00:59:11,920
Hurst, Stefan Diggs, Darnell 
Mooney, Fucking Darnell Mooney, 

1179
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,000
Tucker, Jonathan Brooks. 
What is going on with the 

1180
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:17,320
Darnell Mooney? 
What's going on with that? 

1181
00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:20,360
It's it's the corresponding 
neighbors fault. 

1182
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:26,560
Why are we channeling all that 
into Darnell Mooney and not like

1183
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,520
Darius Sladen Malachi? 
I guess I I don't like 

1184
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:31,560
immediately. 
Well, I mean, I would think of 

1185
00:59:31,640 --> 00:59:34,120
all people to stand up for 
Darnell Mooney. 

1186
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,000
I I would figure that he would 
find a defender in use. 

1187
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:37,360
I'm. 
Sure. 

1188
00:59:37,360 --> 00:59:39,120
Well, this is very bearish for 
Darnell Mooney. 

1189
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:43,120
Yeah, I mean. 
Darnell Mooney. 

1190
00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:48,560
I mean, look, if he had cracked 
my Week 17 lineup last year, we 

1191
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,040
might, I might be singing a 
different tune. 

1192
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,720
But he did not get it done. 
And. 

1193
00:59:53,800 --> 00:59:58,920
I, I, I heard Nez, I heard Nez 
make a pretty good take today, 

1194
00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,840
which is if I'm willing to, if 
I'm willing to give Xavier 

1195
01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:05,480
Worthy a pass for playing with 
Torn Labrum, I should give 

1196
01:00:05,480 --> 01:00:08,000
Mooney a pass for playing with 
dislocated shoulder. 

1197
01:00:08,320 --> 01:00:11,800
The the issue is, is that Mooney
has really never been good. 

1198
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:16,520
There just was the one. 
Season I I so wish that it was 

1199
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:20,120
not Malachi Fields on the giants
and that it was Ted Hurst or 

1200
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:24,560
that it was Chris Bell or like 
someone that I really liked 

1201
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:28,400
because I thought Fields was a 
dog shit prospects like I just 

1202
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:31,440
was like this guy stinks but. 
Yeah, I'm not in the fields. 

1203
01:00:31,720 --> 01:00:33,800
I've been taking him a little 
bit just because I'm like, well,

1204
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:38,600
I'm not taking Mooney and you 
know, I I'm like done with 

1205
01:00:38,600 --> 01:00:41,160
Darius Slayton, bro. 
Like enough of Darius Slayton 

1206
01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:44,000
being an 18th round pick. 
Like you go to hell and every 

1207
01:00:44,000 --> 01:00:47,360
draft you have to star Darius 
Slayton in the 7th circle of 

1208
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:51,320
hell at the end every time. 
I mean, part of the problem is, 

1209
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,120
OK, So what are we looking for 
with the Giants? 

1210
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,920
I mean, I know like, you know, I
guess part of the case here is 

1211
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:01,480
that like, look, you're getting 
like the wide receiver 2IN 

1212
01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:04,000
Darnell Mooney. 
At this point we're drafting 

1213
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:06,960
like wide receiver threes and 
stuff on worst teams. 

1214
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:11,440
So like, I guess I could see it.
But when you're really like 

1215
01:01:11,520 --> 01:01:14,120
hoping to get the production on 
Darnell Mooney, it really is 

1216
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:17,800
kind of front loaded with with 
Malik neighbors not back. 

1217
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:21,000
And like, look, he's probably 
not even hitting your lineup if 

1218
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:23,760
you drafted a decent team. 
Like it's not like Mooney's 

1219
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,600
gonna be crushing. 
He's gonna like maybe pepper in 

1220
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,440
some usable weeks. 
Like if you don't have any 

1221
01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:32,320
receivers, but you probably do, 
you know, and they're probably 

1222
01:01:32,320 --> 01:01:35,040
healthy. 
So it's, it's like this 

1223
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,920
production's like maybe not even
going to any use. 

1224
01:01:39,120 --> 01:01:42,800
And then presumably neighbors 
is, is healthy and the clear #1 

1225
01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:45,640
commanding a huge target chair 
like Calvin Austin might be the 

1226
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:47,400
number 2 target ultimately out 
of the slot. 

1227
01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:50,120
Like maybe, you know, from a 
routes perspective, Mooney might

1228
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,680
outpace him, but I'm not sure 
he's truly ahead of Slayton. 

1229
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:55,440
So I, I don't know what, you 
know, if you even have that 

1230
01:01:55,440 --> 01:01:57,600
there. 
And then you also have a guy 

1231
01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:00,760
like this is a team with a 
rushing quarterback. 

1232
01:02:01,160 --> 01:02:03,680
OK, I'm looking at the legs 
there. 

1233
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:07,680
He's this beautiful guy. 
He's got legs like tree trunks. 

1234
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:09,920
This is not a good thing for 
women. 

1235
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:12,600
Or Darnell Mooney. 
I I walked into your take 

1236
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:13,920
thinking this is going to be a 
joke. 

1237
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,240
You went on for like 3 minutes 
like and then I got tired. 

1238
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,000
No it's not. 
Then it was I was right in the 

1239
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:22,120
1st place I knew. 
It was it's analysis and a joke.

1240
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,640
Sam, you were going to say. 
Yeah, no, I was going to just 

1241
01:02:27,640 --> 01:02:31,120
list off some wide receivers who
got the same or more guaranteed 

1242
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:32,840
money than Darnell Mooney this 
offseason. 

1243
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:37,600
Khalif, Khalif, Raymond. 
Funniest. 

1244
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:41,840
Possible bonus ones if anyone 
knows what team he's on. 

1245
01:02:43,560 --> 01:02:47,040
He is on. 
Sadly, I do know this one. 

1246
01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,520
He's on the Chicago Bears. 
Relevant to me as a Xavion 

1247
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:53,600
Thomas drafter. 
Yeah, exactly. 

1248
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,760
Some other names here, Marc 
Marcuse Brown. 

1249
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:03,520
Remember him? 
Eagle 5 receiver 5 on the Eagles

1250
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:05,640
now. 
Taekwon Thornton easily doubled 

1251
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:08,040
up Cleve Ring. 
Easily and hey. 

1252
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,840
Darnell Mooney and Guarantee. 
I dropped a little Taekwon 

1253
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:12,760
Thornton. 
This is just as a treat. 

1254
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:17,040
Kendrick Bourne easily, easily 
doubling up the amount of money 

1255
01:03:17,120 --> 01:03:18,600
Darnell. 
Mooney OK, Do you guys know what

1256
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,520
Kendrick Bourne is on? 
Arizona. 

1257
01:03:21,160 --> 01:03:23,600
There you go, show. 
Yeah, I don't know if you saw 

1258
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:28,720
that pad, I snuck him onto your 
whatever to last call whatever 

1259
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:31,480
that was called team. 
That is what it's called. 

1260
01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:35,000
That one week, yeah. 
You got kinder born on there? 

1261
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,880
Oh no. 
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're. 

1262
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,560
Calling that just the tip. 
We're oh, just the tip, Yeah. 

1263
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,240
Oh, that's right, you looked 
like you needed some stable 

1264
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:43,760
veteran Roger Cedar production. 
Thank you. 

1265
01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:44,800
Thank you, Sam. 
Yeah. 

1266
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:45,280
Yeah. 
So you. 

1267
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:48,360
Could go back to it tonight for 
your own team or Jacob. 

1268
01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,680
I mean, it's probably gonna be 
there for you if you want it. 

1269
01:03:51,160 --> 01:03:53,560
That's true I do. 
The only point I had looking at 

1270
01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:55,640
this risers, because I agree 
this is like the most pathetic 

1271
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,920
list of all time. 
I think I I must disagree with 

1272
01:03:59,920 --> 01:04:01,080
you guys on the Ted Hearst 
thing. 

1273
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:05,200
I I really I I don't get the the
Ted Hearst rise again. 

1274
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:11,000
Not that I don't think he's a 
viable 18th 17th round pick, but

1275
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:14,600
I guess to your point on on 
Fornoy, Pat, he's, you know, 

1276
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:17,680
surpassed that Now this is what 
round 1516? 

1277
01:04:18,080 --> 01:04:20,360
I guess if I'm just playing the 
game like as someone who's not 

1278
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,680
super deep on the prospect 
stuff, if I'm just playing the 

1279
01:04:22,680 --> 01:04:27,840
game of guy with Round 2 around 
3 draft capital with a path to 

1280
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:30,320
playing time. 
Like I don't get why we're 

1281
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:35,600
ranking Ted Hurst so much higher
above guys like Chris Brazell. 

1282
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:39,920
Like seems like me like beating 
out Xavier like at is easier 

1283
01:04:39,920 --> 01:04:43,840
than beating out Jalen McMillan,
Ibuka and Chris Godwin, both the

1284
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,800
Dolphins wide receivers Chris 
Bell and Caleb Douglas way 

1285
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,840
easier path to playing time than
Ted Hurst in my opinion, Fields 

1286
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:51,520
Bell. 
'S coming off a torn ACL, which 

1287
01:04:51,560 --> 01:04:54,280
I think very much complicates 
his path to playing time. 

1288
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:57,000
Sure, yeah, that's that's 
certainly the exception. 

1289
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:00,880
Zechariah branch I mean his path
to playing time is Johan Dodson 

1290
01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:04,520
and Ilama de Zacchaeus Germany 
Bernard drafted like a full 

1291
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,320
round of Ted Hurst. 
They're now back-to-back in ADPI

1292
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:11,320
think his path to playing time 
is much, much clearer than Ted 

1293
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:13,000
Hurst. 
So I know there's this quote 

1294
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,240
about like we view him as an X. 
Looking at the rest of that 

1295
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:21,320
quote, the next thing that was 
it. 

1296
01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:24,360
I think it was Bowles said after
that, or maybe it was offensive 

1297
01:05:24,360 --> 01:05:26,080
coordinator. 
Anyways, this is pulled from 

1298
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:29,240
Coach Speak Index. 
The next part of that quote was 

1299
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,880
that's where you see the 
flexibility of Jaylen McMillan 

1300
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,400
and Mecca Educa and Chris 
Godwin. 

1301
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,880
Those guys can line up 
everywhere and there's really no

1302
01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:39,360
true X, no true F, no true Z. 
You've got a bunch of different 

1303
01:05:39,360 --> 01:05:41,160
versatility from a pretty cool 
skill group. 

1304
01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,880
So I don't think that quote was 
saying at all that like, Tedders

1305
01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:49,160
is the actual defense and that 
he wasn't just like, yeah, he 

1306
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:50,920
wasn't saying that. 
But I think that's what this ADP

1307
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,240
rise is like kind of banking on 
I I just don't really I 

1308
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:56,360
personally don't don't really 
get it. 

1309
01:05:56,360 --> 01:05:58,000
But clearly you guys you guys 
disagree. 

1310
01:05:58,000 --> 01:06:01,480
So I'm curious you're. 
Yeah, I mean, I the quote is not

1311
01:06:01,480 --> 01:06:05,680
why the quote explains the rise.
It's not why I like him. 

1312
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,960
I mean, I don't think it's 
necessarily bearish that they 

1313
01:06:07,960 --> 01:06:14,480
said, you know, we view him as 
an X because he clearly is an X.

1314
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,440
So it's like at least they like,
know what type of receiver they 

1315
01:06:17,440 --> 01:06:19,640
drafted accurately, which 
doesn't always happen. 

1316
01:06:19,880 --> 01:06:22,760
You know, you see these guys 
like immediately get miscast. 

1317
01:06:24,080 --> 01:06:27,800
But I do think it, you know, 
it's he fits that receiver room.

1318
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,280
His skill set is something they 
don't have, right? 

1319
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,760
Chris Godwin at this point, his 
career needs to be kind of the 

1320
01:06:34,760 --> 01:06:36,720
power slot. 
He's not going to play X for 

1321
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:38,200
you. 
He might not even play 

1322
01:06:38,200 --> 01:06:40,560
particularly well for you no 
matter where he is. 

1323
01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,920
And then Abuka is not an X. 
He's more of a Slaughter AZ. 

1324
01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:48,600
And then McMillan is also more 
of a Slaughter AZ receiver. 

1325
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,920
So I actually think Hurst has a 
very clear path. 

1326
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,840
The playing time is the kind of 
traditional X perhaps, you know,

1327
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:57,360
he's kind of like a Darius 
Slayton a little bit sacrificed 

1328
01:06:57,360 --> 01:06:59,560
to the defense a lot of the 
times, you know, like, maybe 

1329
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,680
that doesn't come as like a 
super high target role, but I 

1330
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:09,440
liked Hurst a lot as a prospect.
I thought he again, like what he

1331
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:11,800
did, fits like kind of who he 
is. 

1332
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:14,680
He's this bigger. 
He's he's pretty tall. 

1333
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:18,880
He's he's like 206 lbs. 
He plays outside, he catches 

1334
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:24,000
balls like 10 plus yards in deep
down field and he like dominated

1335
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:28,960
this, you know, not great teams 
passing offense for two seasons 

1336
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:33,240
as a year three-year 4 player. 
So it's like he looks like a 

1337
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:38,040
pretty, pretty good bet to be 
able to be good at the thing the

1338
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:43,200
team both recognizes he's good 
at and doesn't have an any other

1339
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,000
wide receiver on the roster 
currently. 

1340
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,600
So that's where I think his path
to playing time is like pretty 

1341
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:54,240
clear compared like Brazil, like
they like Terrell McMillan is 

1342
01:07:54,240 --> 01:07:57,120
going to be playing outside. 
You know, Jalen Coker can play 

1343
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,040
outside too. 
So in 12 personnel, is he is he 

1344
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:03,880
playing like I think Hurst could
be playing alongside of Buca and

1345
01:08:03,880 --> 01:08:06,320
12 personnel down the stretch. 
I think that's where that 

1346
01:08:06,320 --> 01:08:08,840
outside skills skill set really 
factors in. 

1347
01:08:08,840 --> 01:08:10,240
I mean, I also not a McMillan 
guy. 

1348
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:15,120
I think Mcmillan's been kind of 
ridiculously overdrafted all, I 

1349
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:21,520
mean, all offseason. 
So yeah, so I am, I am very much

1350
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,760
betting against Jail McMillan to
be an outside wide receiver for 

1351
01:08:24,760 --> 01:08:27,200
this team if, if Ted Hurst is 
any good at all. 

1352
01:08:30,040 --> 01:08:33,920
Yeah, I guess I I'd still be 
surprised IF2 wide receiver sets

1353
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:36,640
Hearst is playing over at Buca 
and Godwin I I totally. 

1354
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,640
Get that? 
Not over at Buca, not over 

1355
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:41,200
Ibuca. 
Over over Godwin I, I completely

1356
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:45,200
buy that. 
Yeah, I I just don't think it's.

1357
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,399
The Trey Harris thing. 
Ladd Mcconkey comes off for Trey

1358
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:53,560
Frickin Harris. 
Yeah, I I just think like Godwin

1359
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:57,720
is still probably a much better.
Like a lot of the reason why you

1360
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:01,680
have wide receivers coming off 
the field in 12 personnel is 

1361
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:04,000
like blocking reasons. 
I don't think like it's ever 

1362
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:06,600
been a knock on Chris Godwin 
that he's not a good run 

1363
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:07,800
blocker. 
I don't think they're throwing 

1364
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:12,000
out rookie Ted Hurst in in 12 
personnel over Chris Godwin for 

1365
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,720
blocking reasons. 
Like, I don't know, Like I get, 

1366
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:16,840
I get the X thing, but I think. 
Of like, it's not just blocking 

1367
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,319
though, it's like can't. 
Who stretches the field? 

1368
01:09:19,359 --> 01:09:22,160
Who keeps the defence honest, 
right? 

1369
01:09:22,319 --> 01:09:24,600
Yeah. 
Like you don't want the defence 

1370
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,160
collapsing down if you're trying
to like, run the ball. 

1371
01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,800
Like you need to be able to like
space the defence out 

1372
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:32,200
vertically. 
It helps to have a guy with 

1373
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,160
speed. 
Godwin doesn't have speed 

1374
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,000
anymore. 
Like maybe he can be like an 

1375
01:09:36,000 --> 01:09:38,680
underneath guy for you, a 
consistent target earner out of 

1376
01:09:38,680 --> 01:09:42,160
the slot. 
But you know, I, I just don't, I

1377
01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:44,760
mean, when I say that I think 
Purse can be playing in 12 

1378
01:09:44,760 --> 01:09:48,120
personnel, I do mean down the 
stretch, like I don't think week

1379
01:09:48,160 --> 01:09:50,080
3, he's going to be playing over
Chris Godwin in 12. 

1380
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,160
But I think like he can get 
himself established and you 

1381
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,600
know, as a reliable guy. 
And you know, I do think he can 

1382
01:09:55,600 --> 01:09:58,080
play out of 12 and certainly out
of 11. 

1383
01:09:58,080 --> 01:10:03,040
He can be, you can be, he can 
have, you know, a role that gets

1384
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,080
him 6570% round participation as
we as we get down the stretch 

1385
01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,520
for sure. 
I'll just say, listening to this

1386
01:10:10,840 --> 01:10:14,720
excellent debate, I've decided 
to make a futures bet. 

1387
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,640
I think all four teams in the 
NFC South are playing to win. 

1388
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,600
They're all equal. 
I mean, 8 and 9 won the 

1389
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:23,160
division. 
Carolina, right? 

1390
01:10:23,320 --> 01:10:27,720
Sort of like the Saints stuff. 
Kellen Moore a little bit like 

1391
01:10:27,720 --> 01:10:33,160
the the receiver pick. 
You've got 2 in Atlanta could 

1392
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,600
work. 
There's stuff there. 

1393
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:38,400
Canales I'm betting under on the
Bucks. 

1394
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,040
I don't think they're going to 
be serious. 

1395
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,040
I just like. 
What's the over under again? 

1396
01:10:42,480 --> 01:10:46,160
8 1/2. 
Yeah, I'll take the under. -128 

1397
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,000
1/2 I'm doing that right. 
Now, I like that. 

1398
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,360
I like that they their defense 
isn't gonna be great. 

1399
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:52,520
It's. 
Your fault. 

1400
01:10:53,200 --> 01:10:55,720
It it'll be OK, I think the I 
think it's gonna be OK they'll 

1401
01:10:55,720 --> 01:10:57,840
be OK let's actually a disaster 
but. 

1402
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:01,960
Let's pop that to under 7 1/2 
for plus 140 the box. 

1403
01:11:03,400 --> 01:11:04,760
Oh, who has more fun than 
people? 

1404
01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,000
You want to get to Fallers? 
Let's do it. 

1405
01:11:08,240 --> 01:11:09,880
Let's do it. 
Rashi Rice. 

1406
01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:12,520
Who? 
Brissett, Chimera Tyree kill. 

1407
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:16,280
More on him later. 
Ninjoku, Gadsden Stowers, Chris 

1408
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:18,280
Bell, Charbonnay. 
Yeah. 

1409
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:21,720
Brissett start week one for 
Arizona. 

1410
01:11:21,720 --> 01:11:23,240
Does he ever come back? 
What's going to happen there? 

1411
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:28,240
Do they pay him? 
That man, then I don't know. 

1412
01:11:29,080 --> 01:11:34,080
Who's advising Jacoby Brissett? 
Who's advising the Cardinals is?

1413
01:11:34,560 --> 01:11:37,600
Yeah, like these are, these are 
two ships passing. 

1414
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:43,200
What if they're the same person?
This is this is like how this is

1415
01:11:43,200 --> 01:11:46,200
like how like the Titanic and 
the Lusitania both happen within

1416
01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:47,880
three years of each other and 
it's. 

1417
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,920
Like it's. 
It's insane, dude. 

1418
01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:55,080
It's it's insane, like you're 
trying to lose. 

1419
01:11:55,560 --> 01:11:59,600
Just give Jacoby his money. 
Like let let Trey McBride go get

1420
01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:01,800
his records like it does. 
Do we really want to watch 

1421
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:03,000
Carson back? 
No, we don't. 

1422
01:12:03,400 --> 01:12:06,560
But equally, hey, man, you're 
Jacoby Brissette. 

1423
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:09,840
You have a chance to start like 
a whole season somehow. 

1424
01:12:10,160 --> 01:12:12,480
Don't signal that you're not 
willing to do it under your 

1425
01:12:12,480 --> 01:12:14,440
current contract before the 
draft. 

1426
01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:18,320
Wait until after the draft. 
They've got leverage now, man. 

1427
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:22,840
What? 
Do you think he wants like 1 for

1428
01:12:22,840 --> 01:12:25,560
one for 25? 
Yeah, he wants, he wants like 10

1429
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,600
million more dollars probably. 
He's making 3, isn't he? 

1430
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,560
He probably just wants like one 
for 15. 

1431
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:34,600
I bet he just wants something 
respect. 

1432
01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:37,440
Like he's not even getting 
respectable backup money right 

1433
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:40,720
now. 
So I kind of get why he's pissed

1434
01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:41,840
off. 
But yeah, he's right. 

1435
01:12:41,960 --> 01:12:44,360
Doesn't have a leverage. 
I think he's going to settle. 

1436
01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:47,520
Is he right? 
He he was he was quite bad on 

1437
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,880
the Patriots and he was like 
solid enough last year. 

1438
01:12:50,880 --> 01:12:54,080
But I don't know, you signed the
two year man like you could have

1439
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:57,400
done the one year and tried to 
go get paid like you. 

1440
01:12:57,560 --> 01:12:59,960
You're a quarterback, like 
you'll be you'll get paid again.

1441
01:13:00,160 --> 01:13:02,720
Someone, someone's going to give
you if you do a serviceable job 

1442
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:04,800
this year, you'll get paid like 
pretty good backup money next 

1443
01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,400
year. 
But if he gets replaced by 

1444
01:13:06,400 --> 01:13:08,840
Gardner Minshew and Carson Beck 
this year doesn't really play 

1445
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:10,920
much. 
Was a pain in the Cardinals ass.

1446
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:12,600
He's not going to get paid. 
Like, I don't know, it just 

1447
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:15,200
seems like a it's not a good 
plan. 

1448
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:20,120
I I think ultimately what he's 
banking on, and it maybe is not 

1449
01:13:20,120 --> 01:13:22,720
even that bad of a bet. 
It's like there's one thing to 

1450
01:13:22,720 --> 01:13:24,720
like know you're going to be the
worst team in the league. 

1451
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,720
It is another thing to be like, 
we are basically going to have 

1452
01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:31,280
Kendall Hinton starting every 
game at quarterback for us. 

1453
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:34,000
Like everyone in the whole 
building is going to show up to 

1454
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:36,560
the show up to work and just 
fucking hate it. 

1455
01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:39,400
Just everyone showing up to the 
building like, well, I guess 

1456
01:13:39,400 --> 01:13:41,000
we're going to lose by 32 this 
week. 

1457
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:45,880
If you're contemplating a 
holdout and the team that you're

1458
01:13:45,880 --> 01:13:50,520
holding out from can credibly 
say fuck it, let's just start 

1459
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,920
Cardinal Minshew instead, it's 
basically the same thing. 

1460
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:57,000
Then don't hold out that's you 
don't have leverage. 

1461
01:13:57,440 --> 01:14:01,080
Yeah, I, I don't, I don't, I 
don't disagree. 

1462
01:14:01,080 --> 01:14:03,400
I mean, I think the Cardinals 
should just give him, whatever, 

1463
01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,360
$15 million. 
But like I, it's just so it is a

1464
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,560
very odd situation. 
Is it less than the owner? 

1465
01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:12,840
Is it less? 
I mean Sam do? 

1466
01:14:12,840 --> 01:14:14,920
You have a list of I'm going, 
I'm going live to Sam. 

1467
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:17,440
Sherman. 
There's a lot that we won't 

1468
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,000
believe. 
Let me look up, guys. 

1469
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,920
Let me look up quarterbacks 
who've got more money than 

1470
01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,440
Jacobi Brusett. 
Kyle Allen, Is he making more? 

1471
01:14:24,800 --> 01:14:26,720
Make sure make sure you're on 
Ethernet Sam. 

1472
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,200
I don't want you to drop off the
stream. 

1473
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:30,640
It's a. 
It's a long list of. 

1474
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:36,720
Players a long list yeah he if 
you're if you're ownership, 

1475
01:14:36,720 --> 01:14:39,920
though, or if you're if you're 
the general manager. 

1476
01:14:42,080 --> 01:14:45,960
Do you want percent like what's 
the isn't this kind of good for 

1477
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:51,240
you Like you you go hey, you 
know what let's start Minshew. 

1478
01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:54,080
Oh, Minshew stinks. 
Damn, we lost four games in a 

1479
01:14:54,080 --> 01:14:56,920
row. 
Just want to put him back. 

1480
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:00,560
He held back Minshew because 
that, I think, is a he. 

1481
01:15:00,920 --> 01:15:03,680
Didn't he, He, he did he didn't 
tear his ACL. 

1482
01:15:03,680 --> 01:15:06,600
They thought he did it first. 
He he just had like APCL sprain 

1483
01:15:06,600 --> 01:15:08,080
or whatever. 
So I think he's good to go. 

1484
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:09,840
He. 
Is maybe their week 1 starter. 

1485
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:17,280
Maybe, but like get the 101, get
the get the best shot at 

1486
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:20,160
quarterback next year, have your
pick of the class next year. 

1487
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:23,320
They are. 
They are in the NFC West. 

1488
01:15:23,320 --> 01:15:26,240
They are underdogs in literally 
every game on their schedule 

1489
01:15:26,240 --> 01:15:28,680
already. 
I think they can sort of try to 

1490
01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,880
for appearances, make it look 
OK, and then still accomplish 

1491
01:15:31,880 --> 01:15:34,480
that, or try to. 
I wouldn't, I would not pay 

1492
01:15:34,480 --> 01:15:37,560
percent if I were them. 
I would go, let's let Percent 

1493
01:15:37,560 --> 01:15:41,280
make it look like he's putting 
What we would prefer actually is

1494
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,280
lose many games as possible and 
Berset's probably better than 

1495
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:47,040
the other options. 
So let's have this look like 

1496
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:50,000
it's per Set's fault that we're 
going to not have a quarterback 

1497
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:52,160
and look awful. 
And as much better as he might 

1498
01:15:52,160 --> 01:15:54,200
be, they went like one in 12 in 
his starts. 

1499
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,720
Yeah, I don't I don't think 
Menchu is that much of A 

1500
01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:00,680
downgrade. 
Like even for the the weapons in

1501
01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:03,880
this offense, like Menchu is 
going to dump the ball off a ton

1502
01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:07,080
to McBride, probably to Jeremiah
Love as well. 

1503
01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,680
I think it's like functionally, 
I don't think they're that 

1504
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:12,600
different of quarterbacks at 
this point in their career. 

1505
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:15,760
So I'm not that worried about it
from like a Cardinal's skill 

1506
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:19,200
position, player outcome, it's. 
Just no, I'm not really there, 

1507
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,400
yeah. 
Preset, I think is like pretty 

1508
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,400
close to. 
He was already like very 

1509
01:16:23,560 --> 01:16:26,080
teetering undraftable. 
Like now to me he's like 

1510
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:30,240
basically undraftable. 
Yeah, it's just like. 

1511
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:35,560
Wanna weigh in on a good 
receiver debate? 

1512
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:41,480
Devante Adams versus Roma Dunze.
We have loggerheads. 

1513
01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:45,520
By Shel Tootin, who's? 
Yeah, to me, that's Adams all 

1514
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:49,560
day. 
Yeah, it's Adams for me. 

1515
01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,240
But I'm, I think I'm above 
market on both, both these guys.

1516
01:16:53,240 --> 01:16:57,040
So I like them both quite a bit.
ADP51 for Adams, 56 for a Dunze.

1517
01:16:57,160 --> 01:17:00,520
That's the next slide. 
The next. 

1518
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:03,800
I've been happy to get well, 
well before if we're going 

1519
01:17:03,800 --> 01:17:04,240
there. 
Yeah. 

1520
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,680
Let me just ask you guys want 
stowers real quick because I 

1521
01:17:06,680 --> 01:17:08,840
mean, I'm getting a lot of 
stowers right now and I'm kind 

1522
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,880
of loving it. 
I'm also starting to see Siddiq 

1523
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,120
fall a little bit. 
Yeah, I feel like Siddiq Fall is

1524
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:18,480
very nice. 
Siddiq is so nice. 

1525
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:21,040
Yeah, he's he's starting to fall
where I'm taking him now because

1526
01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,120
I I was fading him at the 
original price, but he's 

1527
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,720
starting to get kind of in range
where I'm actually drafting him,

1528
01:17:26,760 --> 01:17:29,840
which I've, which I've enjoyed. 
I don't want to completely fade 

1529
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,160
the the Super athlete tight end.
I thought he was overpriced and 

1530
01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:36,480
I never not as much. 
I basically never see Omar 

1531
01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:39,640
Cooper Junior in my in my queue,
so I am totally. 

1532
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:41,680
Comfortable. 
I'm drafting a ton of Omar 

1533
01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:43,960
Cooper. 
Dude, I get old 140 so many 

1534
01:17:43,960 --> 01:17:46,280
jets. 
It's it's kind of disturbing how

1535
01:17:46,280 --> 01:17:47,600
many jets I'm drafting right 
now. 

1536
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:51,520
No, I feel like they're old. 
Those are the Wilsons for me. 

1537
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,000
Yeah, Why are you? 
Why are you out on Cooper? 

1538
01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:57,640
He's so cheap. 
Cuz I take Stephon Diggs 

1539
01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,880
instead. 
I don't need, I don't need no 

1540
01:17:59,880 --> 01:18:02,440
fucking Jacquard tree when 
Stefan Diggs is gonna shoot up 

1541
01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:06,760
80 spots, 40 spots in ADP in a 
week. 

1542
01:18:08,600 --> 01:18:10,800
Seriously. 
Like I, I'll give you, I'll give

1543
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:12,920
you the easiest recipe for CLV 
right now. 

1544
01:18:13,240 --> 01:18:21,440
Diggs signs Rams, Chargers, 
Chiefs, Raiders, Dolphins. 

1545
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:26,240
Where this dude, this dude is 
signing and going 40 spots 

1546
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:27,680
higher. 
He's going, he's going in the 

1547
01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,440
seventh round. 
No, he's not. 

1548
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:32,480
He wasn't he. 
Wasn't he? 

1549
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:35,520
Was 12th in the NFL in yards per
out run last year. 

1550
01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,880
He got cut by the team and that 
happened on. 

1551
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,480
He got cut because he was maybe 
going to be in jail. 

1552
01:18:42,760 --> 01:18:44,480
They could have wait. 
They could have saw it out. 

1553
01:18:44,480 --> 01:18:46,080
And, and he's also a Dick, 
right? 

1554
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:47,640
He's also a Dick. 
He wears out his welcome. 

1555
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,760
This is his thing. 
He wears out his welcome. 

1556
01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:50,760
He goes to a new place. 
He. 

1557
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:52,920
I was I was into digs before he 
got caught. 

1558
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,080
I was like, what? 
You know, it's fine. 

1559
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,480
They're not going to cut him. 
He like everything you're saying

1560
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:58,680
is he's good. 
He still clearly has stuff left 

1561
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:01,000
in the tank. 
But like them cutting him, he's 

1562
01:19:01,000 --> 01:19:03,800
worn out his welcome repeatedly.
Chop tried to tell me he's like,

1563
01:19:03,800 --> 01:19:07,000
listen, I I lived this. 
But I was like literally but but

1564
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:10,480
he he, he's a. 
Dick, they knew they had A.J. 

1565
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,440
Brown and they can't coexist. 
He's a Dick. 

1566
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:15,440
He goes to a new place and he 
plays well. 

1567
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:17,440
He does. 
He's done it everywhere, every 

1568
01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:18,680
team. 
He's been on four different 

1569
01:19:18,680 --> 01:19:20,000
teams. 
He's been good for all of them 

1570
01:19:20,040 --> 01:19:22,560
even though he's a Dick. 
I keep trying to force bills 

1571
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,920
into your list. 
I don't think that'll happen 

1572
01:19:24,920 --> 01:19:27,920
because when Joe Brady took 
over, what he did was basically 

1573
01:19:27,920 --> 01:19:30,920
phase out digs. 
So I don't think it's more 

1574
01:19:30,920 --> 01:19:32,760
complicated than that, but I 
think. 

1575
01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:33,960
He needs to be someone new, 
right? 

1576
01:19:34,080 --> 01:19:37,440
Shakur is still in that like he 
had ankle surgery. 

1577
01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:41,280
They could think there's like 
AII think Debo Interesting. 

1578
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,600
I think there could still be 
some appetite. 

1579
01:19:44,280 --> 01:19:47,840
I, I, I, dude, let me tell you, 
Let me tell you, Joe, Joe Brady 

1580
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:49,960
cooking up screens for Debo 
Samuel. 

1581
01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:53,600
He's fucking, he's going, he's 
going to sleep thinking about. 

1582
01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,360
About the screens. 
For Debo. 

1583
01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:57,480
'S he's like, dude, and we're 
going to sleep watching them. 

1584
01:19:58,440 --> 01:20:02,080
I would love we. 
Love the screens around here. 

1585
01:20:02,120 --> 01:20:06,080
The the issue is every 4 yard 
dig to Debo is a four yard dig 

1586
01:20:06,080 --> 01:20:11,880
that's not going to Skylar Bell.
I, I actually crane. 

1587
01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,760
So I swore office towers for a 
little bit because I was going 

1588
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:19,640
into the draft stuff at like he 
was my most drafted guy in the 

1589
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:21,920
pre draft contest. 
I was like, I, I got to trim 

1590
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:24,480
this back a little bit, but I'm 
I'm into it. 

1591
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:28,200
I'm into it now a little bit 
because I mean, one, he's like 

1592
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,320
eighteenth round and like Friar 
Muth is starting to get 

1593
01:20:30,320 --> 01:20:33,400
expensive and some people are 
into Terence Ferguson. 

1594
01:20:33,400 --> 01:20:35,360
So I can't get those guys every 
time now. 

1595
01:20:35,480 --> 01:20:37,520
Just sometimes just need a 
different third tight end. 

1596
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:44,760
And I think there's a a good bit
of chance that the 12 personnel 

1597
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:48,120
revolution includes our our 
twink King Eli Stowers for the 

1598
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:52,240
for the Eagles. 
Yeah, I mean, this is such a 

1599
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,400
cheap price to to find out if if
Stowers is actually, you know, a

1600
01:20:56,400 --> 01:20:59,720
pretty damn good receiver like 
he could. 

1601
01:21:00,480 --> 01:21:04,640
You know, I, I thought Harold 
Fannon was more fun last year 

1602
01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:06,280
because, you know, he's so 
productive. 

1603
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,040
But Stowers had more draft 
capital and I think. 

1604
01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:13,960
And was also very productive. 
He's also pretty productive. 

1605
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,200
And that's a Mackie. 
Yeah, I mean, it's like it's, 

1606
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:20,200
I'm not like it's not as much 
about kind of a brand like I'm 

1607
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:22,720
I'm so happy to be in on this 
guy type of thing for me with 

1608
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:24,520
Stowers as it was last year with
Fannon. 

1609
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:28,440
But I'm I'm pretty in. 
You want it now he's falling 

1610
01:21:28,440 --> 01:21:30,920
close to pick 200. 
I mean, seriously, like we're 

1611
01:21:31,000 --> 01:21:35,160
we're talking Eli Stowers. 
We're racing to get him on last 

1612
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:38,960
call, like next week, last call,
Eli Stowers, like, come on, 

1613
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:41,360
what's what's going on? 
The rest of the show has been 

1614
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,880
postponed until next week and 
then we'll pick that up. 

1615
01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,480
Right. 
Like a hockey game where the 

1616
01:21:46,560 --> 01:21:48,280
sorry for the lack of hockey 
content tonight. 

1617
01:21:48,280 --> 01:21:49,840
I apologize for that on Jacob's 
behalf. 

1618
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:51,280
Well. 
Well, the Avalanche, the 

1619
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,880
Avalanche are are looking like 
they're going to get swept, so 

1620
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:55,880
that's fine by me. 
That's your excuse? 

1621
01:21:56,160 --> 01:21:57,840
Yeah. 
But you know, sometimes the 

1622
01:21:57,840 --> 01:22:00,160
glass breaks with like a minute 
left in the period. 

1623
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:02,920
They just push the third period 
until after the intermission. 

1624
01:22:03,240 --> 01:22:05,880
They move that up. 
We could move up the week off 

1625
01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:09,840
and then come back. 
Then long game gets towers in 

1626
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:11,880
last call, but we have to fight 
over who goes first. 

1627
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:17,560
I might, I might like just 
launch the stream. 

1628
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:20,240
They just just go, just go 
completely rogue. 

1629
01:22:20,920 --> 01:22:22,200
I forgot you were in charge of 
that. 

1630
01:22:22,680 --> 01:22:24,440
Yeah, I, I, I'm in charge of the
controls. 

1631
01:22:24,440 --> 01:22:27,200
So like, you know, just hype. 
It I feel like if you I wanted. 

1632
01:22:27,440 --> 01:22:30,280
To do that dream would be like 
good night on ADP chasing. 

1633
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:35,520
I take Eli Stowers in Last Call,
starting the show with with the 

1634
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:36,920
last call for the first time 
ever. 

1635
01:22:38,160 --> 01:22:40,760
I think if you do that as 
punishment you should be forced 

1636
01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:44,440
to monologue the entire ADP 
chasing with all the slides. 

1637
01:22:44,440 --> 01:22:48,600
Just solo we do. 
It we'll cover our mouths and 

1638
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:51,440
you can say everybody's words 
like last week, we'll just do 

1639
01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:53,720
this. 
Again, that is one of my many 

1640
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,200
talents. 
Yeah, that is stoned right now. 

1641
01:22:56,200 --> 01:22:57,680
I'm actually not stoned right 
now. 

1642
01:22:58,800 --> 01:23:03,160
This is just imagine, imagine, 
imagine if I was stoned. 

1643
01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:08,040
I'm already in the world. 
We could do Odoonsay Adams if 

1644
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,360
there's more to say, or go to 
Insider Last Calling. 

1645
01:23:13,280 --> 01:23:15,200
No, let's let's do so. 
Was this a debate? 

1646
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:18,360
Who's having this debate? 
Your ranking you verse Davis 

1647
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:21,360
apparently. 
Oh well, Davis just seems very 

1648
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,920
low on. 
And, and you know what? 

1649
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:28,120
I moved to doonsay down today. 
I, I am, I am down on Adams just

1650
01:23:28,120 --> 01:23:32,160
'cause he's fucking 33. 
But I, I moved to doonsay down 

1651
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:34,760
because I'm starting to fear 
that he just was never good. 

1652
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,920
I I fear that he was victim of 
best game of his career came in 

1653
01:23:38,920 --> 01:23:43,080
a game against the Colts wherein
his team ran 95 offensive plays.

1654
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,560
Let me give you that. 
Just telling us that they're all

1655
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:51,840
stoned. 
Nick my guy buddy, never. 

1656
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:56,440
Missed me, Davis, let me try to 
get you back in on on a Dean's 

1657
01:23:56,440 --> 01:23:59,120
area real quick, so. 
I'm I'm listening. 

1658
01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:03,440
I think people do forget a 
little bit he had this, this 

1659
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:05,200
injury last year. 
It ended up being a. 

1660
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:08,400
Week 6. 
Yeah, yeah, Foot injury, Week 6,

1661
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,760
it started. 
There's like debate about when 

1662
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,120
it actually started. 
It started officially appearing 

1663
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:17,080
on the injury report around Week
8 or 9, but he says it affected 

1664
01:24:17,080 --> 01:24:19,520
him even before that. 
Anyways, if you if you just say 

1665
01:24:19,520 --> 01:24:22,880
the cut off is Week 9, when that
first started to appear on the 

1666
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:27,920
injury report, from weeks 1 to 
8, Roma Dunze had a 26% target 

1667
01:24:27,920 --> 01:24:32,000
share, 16 PPR points per game. 
That'd have been wide receiver 9

1668
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:36,080
on the season in terms of points
per game and then from weeks 9 

1669
01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:40,600
to end of the season he dropped 
all the way to 7.2 PPR points 

1670
01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:42,160
per game. 
He was completely useless, 

1671
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:46,640
including when he came back in 
the playoffs after the time he 

1672
01:24:46,640 --> 01:24:48,600
actually missed games for that 
foot injury. 

1673
01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:52,000
So it really was a tale of two 
seasons for a doomsday. 

1674
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:57,600
I think you can spin the like he
was injured upside case and just

1675
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:01,080
given like the other top 2 pass 
catchers on this offense, I 

1676
01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:04,200
think are really talented guys, 
but also players where you can 

1677
01:25:04,200 --> 01:25:07,320
like poke holes in the small 
sample nature of their 

1678
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:09,800
production. 
Luther Burden really was just a 

1679
01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,280
yards per route run king, but he
didn't really prove it on a, you

1680
01:25:13,280 --> 01:25:17,240
know, full route basis really 
anytime last season outside of 

1681
01:25:17,240 --> 01:25:20,640
maybe one or two games, Colson 
Loveland proved his worth, but 

1682
01:25:20,640 --> 01:25:24,840
over, you know, just the last 
6-8 or so games this season. 

1683
01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:28,000
So I think there's enough 
uncertainty and upside where I'm

1684
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,280
willing to bat a doomsday at at 
pick 56. 

1685
01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:32,400
I've been certainly taking him 
there. 

1686
01:25:34,400 --> 01:25:37,320
Yeah, for me, I mean. 
Career yards per route run is. 

1687
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:42,840
Probably like 335 it's. 
Not it's not good man, it's 

1688
01:25:42,880 --> 01:25:45,800
really bad. 
It wasn't good as a rookie. 1.18

1689
01:25:45,800 --> 01:25:48,760
as a rookie running a ton of 
route 624 routes and. 

1690
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:50,800
It's not good for a woman 
either. 

1691
01:25:51,360 --> 01:25:55,240
It's not good for women. 
Some will, some would say. 

1692
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:58,200
It's how about how about this? 
How about how about everyone 

1693
01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:00,440
reframes it this way, it's worse
than Xavier worthy. 

1694
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:01,560
How does? 
How does that? 

1695
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,640
Yeah, it was a concerning rookie
season. 

1696
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:08,600
He I did not take much room with
Doones last year. 

1697
01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,600
And I was worried in the 
beginning season that that was 

1698
01:26:10,600 --> 01:26:14,480
going to look pretty bad. 
But ultimately it didn't look 

1699
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:16,760
that bad. 
And, you know, maybe that was I 

1700
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:19,240
got bailed out by the injury. 
But I also think of Doones, if 

1701
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,760
you think about him down the 
stretch, what else was 

1702
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,720
happening? 
Well, they're replacing all the 

1703
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:28,840
media, Zacchaeus and DJ Moore, 
who's pretty washed with sorry, 

1704
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:33,680
sorry, but you know, and then 
they they're replacing them with

1705
01:26:33,680 --> 01:26:36,800
Luther Burden, who we're taking 
first of all these guys. 

1706
01:26:36,800 --> 01:26:39,160
And then Colston Loveland, who 
looks like he might be the next 

1707
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:42,160
star tight end. 
So his target competition got 

1708
01:26:42,160 --> 01:26:45,600
worse despite, you know, the two
guys he was playing alongside in

1709
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,640
the early part of last year, now
not on the team anymore. 

1710
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:52,600
So I mean starter comes has got 
worse for him. 

1711
01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:56,800
So yeah, I I think a doonsie 
when he falls to the 6th. 

1712
01:26:56,800 --> 01:27:00,120
I actually like taking him 
because this is an offense I 

1713
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,720
actually do want to bet on. 
Despite the haters saying the 

1714
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:05,600
sidekick doesn't draft bears. 
We do draft some bears sometimes

1715
01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:08,360
drive to the common on guy twice
clicking top guy live on stream.

1716
01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,280
You can you can check it out leg
up YouTube channel. 

1717
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:17,040
But you know, we we have Roma 
doonsie. 

1718
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,880
To me, it's like, yeah, if I can
get him in a little bit of a 

1719
01:27:18,880 --> 01:27:22,240
discount to this when the when 
like Christian Watson's gone, 

1720
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:26,200
when the the really exciting, 
you know, top ten wide 

1721
01:27:26,200 --> 01:27:29,120
receivers, you know, top ten NFL
draft pick wide receivers are 

1722
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:30,880
both gone. 
Like, yeah, give me Roma Dunze. 

1723
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:33,880
But I I he's not a priority to 
me. 

1724
01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,520
And there's also running backs 
available in the fifth round 

1725
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:38,800
that I think, you know, are 
pretty solid there too, so. 

1726
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:41,880
A couple. 
Yeah, they're Jacobs. 

1727
01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,840
Jacobs is now. 
There, yeah, you can get him. 

1728
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:50,120
A couple maybe now it's. 3 But I
mean, like Adams was still Adams

1729
01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:54,040
is like literally one of the 
best receivers ever and is still

1730
01:27:54,040 --> 01:27:57,680
got some some juice just scored 
a bunch of touchdowns. 

1731
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:01,280
He's like the clear. 
He's like a two man passing game

1732
01:28:01,280 --> 01:28:04,800
and he's one of the two men. 
I know they talked about like 

1733
01:28:04,800 --> 01:28:08,560
maybe changing that up, but they
were going to change it up to 

1734
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:12,000
like get Makai Lemon and then 
obviously they could have done 

1735
01:28:12,000 --> 01:28:14,360
that and didn't or they were 
going to get A.J. 

1736
01:28:14,360 --> 01:28:17,120
Brown. 
Like these are not like, what if

1737
01:28:17,120 --> 01:28:20,000
we signed Romeo Dobbs and and 
get rid of Devante Adams, You 

1738
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,080
know what I mean? 
Like it's it's like, yeah, if 

1739
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:26,480
you had a chance to get A.J. 
Brown and you had 33 year old 

1740
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:29,560
Devante Adams, like you'd you 
would want to kick the tires on 

1741
01:28:29,560 --> 01:28:31,680
that. 
But he was still, he had 1.90 

1742
01:28:31,680 --> 01:28:35,080
yards per hour run last year, 
scored 15 touchdowns, including 

1743
01:28:35,080 --> 01:28:37,160
the playoffs. 
Like, wow, dude, yeah. 

1744
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,760
I mean. 
And the the touchdown thing, 

1745
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,760
last thing I'll say in Adams is 
like, it's definitely fluky, but

1746
01:28:44,760 --> 01:28:47,800
at the same time, it wasn't just
like fluky touchdown Buck. 

1747
01:28:47,800 --> 01:28:51,400
Like he literally was used in 
the end zone way, way more than 

1748
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:54,560
any other player in the NFL. 
The whole playbook was get this 

1749
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:58,400
guy 3 yard touchdowns. 
It was the puka between the 20s 

1750
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,680
and Adams in, you know, and only
one of those, by the way, was in

1751
01:29:01,680 --> 01:29:03,160
the playoffs. 
He had 14 regular season 

1752
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:05,960
touchdowns. 
He is on the modern day Rushmore

1753
01:29:05,960 --> 01:29:08,600
of receivers in the red zone. 
Players like he's. 

1754
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,480
Just he's automatic. 
He's. 

1755
01:29:10,520 --> 01:29:13,080
Automatic, yeah, He's borderline
Mount Rushmore. 

1756
01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:15,960
Like straight up the dude's. 
I mean, his career has been, it 

1757
01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:19,200
started slow, but he's been 
really, really good for a long 

1758
01:29:19,200 --> 01:29:21,800
time. 
Paula Fan right 2. 

1759
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:24,320
I think so. 
Two end zone targets per game 

1760
01:29:24,480 --> 01:29:27,680
last year, which not it's an 
insane amount. 

1761
01:29:27,680 --> 01:29:32,000
The second closest in the league
was at 1.1, so he's basically 

1762
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:36,120
doubling up the next highest. 
Do you know do? 

1763
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:38,000
You know who was second? 
I'd love to know that. 

1764
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:42,120
It's it's kind of bearish for 
Devante. 

1765
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:46,520
It's Marvin Harrison Junior. 
So might might be a bad sad. 

1766
01:29:46,840 --> 01:29:50,720
Wrap it up all right, Ramadan J 
does win this battle. 

1767
01:29:51,960 --> 01:29:55,760
Ding, Ding, Ding. 
I was looking good. 

1768
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,040
Last minute knockout there. 
For as you say. 

1769
01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,120
Was on the ropes, sorry. 
You can tell I didn't want to 

1770
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,600
say who the player was. 
I just said we doubled up the 

1771
01:30:02,600 --> 01:30:03,680
second closest guy. 
But. 

1772
01:30:04,160 --> 01:30:06,080
I wasn't certain you were. 
I can tell you it is, yeah. 

1773
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:12,840
The next slide is just quickly I
I met Ray Davis and Pat wanted 

1774
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,440
to pick Ray Davis and I let him 
and I tried to push him into it.

1775
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,800
It's because apparently Frank 
Gore junior shines with James 

1776
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:20,880
Cook absent at these. 
Wow. 

1777
01:30:21,640 --> 01:30:23,600
He's been on the team for like 4
years. 

1778
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:26,120
I think 2:00. 
Same thing. 

1779
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:28,440
I don't think it's relevant at 
all. 

1780
01:30:29,960 --> 01:30:31,440
Correct. 
No, this is not relevant. 

1781
01:30:31,960 --> 01:30:33,960
No, not to me. 
So you, you weren't pushing me 

1782
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:37,440
into picking Ray Davis. 
I was because I'm your friend 

1783
01:30:37,480 --> 01:30:39,960
and I thought you deserved to 
have him because you wanted him.

1784
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:43,000
And there's really you disagree 
with this. 

1785
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:44,520
I think there's not that much. 
Tearing up. 

1786
01:30:44,680 --> 01:30:46,560
This is the nicest thing 
anyone's ever done for me. 

1787
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:49,840
I think there's not that much 
clout on the line in Last Call. 

1788
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:51,560
Feel. 
Differently trying to go 

1789
01:30:51,560 --> 01:30:53,160
back-to-back hardest thing to do
in sports. 

1790
01:30:53,160 --> 01:30:56,600
I'm ready with my pick and I 
will prove to you how little I 

1791
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,560
think there is at stake here. 
But I do love the. 

1792
01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,160
Oh wow, Marshawn Lloyd is 
already on your team. 

1793
01:31:03,480 --> 01:31:05,640
Wow. 
Look at that show. 

1794
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,520
That's why I wanted you to have 
Ray Davis, maybe. 

1795
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:09,360
Damn. 
Yeah, you've already won. 

1796
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:13,600
You don't even care. 
Well, I'm, I'll take my guy now 

1797
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,920
because I always like defer to 
you guys and I'm ready. 

1798
01:31:17,760 --> 01:31:20,880
And really, this is something 
that we talked about in the last

1799
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:24,320
week or two, like this is sort 
of my vision for this player. 

1800
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:27,120
We've been talking about a lot 
of veteran wide receivers who 

1801
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:28,520
are not signed. 
He's 80. 

1802
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:30,720
His ADP is 2O four. 
I'll take Tyree kill. 

1803
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:34,360
I'm seeing Tyree kill on the 
Chiefs in the playoff weeks. 

1804
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:37,080
I. 
Mean it's it's if they don't 

1805
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:38,560
sign digs. 
Yeah it's going to happen. 

1806
01:31:41,240 --> 01:31:45,240
I I don't really see I I 
honestly this like it would it 

1807
01:31:45,240 --> 01:31:47,160
would be an upset, I think for 
it not to happen. 

1808
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:48,560
Like Tyree's been in Kansas 
City. 

1809
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:49,920
He's been training in Kansas 
City. 

1810
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:57,720
Yep, sign them, play it out. 
I need a running back. 

1811
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:01,120
The issue is all these running 
backs are bad. 

1812
01:32:03,760 --> 01:32:08,280
OK, I'm going to take a guy I 
think will at least be active. 

1813
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,520
I'm gonna go. 
Adam Randall. 

1814
01:32:11,800 --> 01:32:13,960
Baltimore Ravens running back 
Adam Randall. 

1815
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,040
Wide receivers don't need it. 
You think active week 1 like you

1816
01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:20,320
see the backup for? 
You. 

1817
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,720
I think so I I'd like. 
To see that, I hope. 

1818
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:27,480
So I, I, I, I think it will be 
him instead of Rasheen Ali, 

1819
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:31,240
obviously. 
Well, he'll, he'll be the same 

1820
01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:32,120
thing. 
He always is. 

1821
01:32:32,280 --> 01:32:37,560
The the issue that you will find
is the Ravens, because they are 

1822
01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,120
the Ravens. 
They are super live to be the 

1823
01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:44,200
Naji Harris, Joe Mixon. 
I mean, they could fucking call 

1824
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:46,880
Isaiah Crowell. 
You know, like it's the Ravens. 

1825
01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,040
Right. 
All right, Pat. 

1826
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:56,280
Sam. 
I will take. 

1827
01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,520
I've been drafting a bunch of 
Dontavian Wicks. 

1828
01:33:00,280 --> 01:33:03,760
Speak on that. 
Well, I think, you know, he's 

1829
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:07,000
gonna be probably starter at the
beginning of the season, which 

1830
01:33:07,000 --> 01:33:10,000
doesn't help this game because 
we're only doing the last few 

1831
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:16,480
weeks, but is the player that 
Mike is pretty, pretty solid 

1832
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:18,040
dude. 
He's, he's a good player. 

1833
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:22,160
I, I think that I just am having
a hard time thinking like, what 

1834
01:33:22,160 --> 01:33:24,280
is their base personnel going to
be? 

1835
01:33:24,520 --> 01:33:27,000
Is he gonna be in it? 
It's gonna be Hollywood. 

1836
01:33:27,000 --> 01:33:28,200
Is it gonna be Star Wars? 
Like what? 

1837
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:29,480
What? 
Is, I think he plays over 

1838
01:33:29,480 --> 01:33:31,600
Hollywood. 
I mean, if he's not playing over

1839
01:33:31,600 --> 01:33:33,960
Hollywood, then I'm, I'm making 
a huge mistake. 

1840
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:37,240
But I but yeah, basically I 
think he's a better player than 

1841
01:33:37,680 --> 01:33:39,640
Hollywood Brown. 
He's gonna be playing outside 

1842
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:43,600
for them for the beginning of 
the year until Lemon's ready, 

1843
01:33:44,240 --> 01:33:45,560
and then, yeah, he's probably 
playing. 

1844
01:33:46,160 --> 01:33:47,520
This is a terrible Last call 
pick. 

1845
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:51,240
I'm not even going to do it. 
I'll take. 

1846
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:53,920
By the time the last call comes 
around, he's not even going to 

1847
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:54,560
be playing. 
Yeah, I'm out. 

1848
01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:55,920
He's still. 
On the piece, I'm out. 

1849
01:33:56,080 --> 01:33:59,280
I think he's like he's I'm 
realizing he's like helpful for,

1850
01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,520
you know, getting some some 
rookie wide receipt. 

1851
01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:04,880
He's a chaperone. 
He's an effective chaperone, but

1852
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:06,240
that's not what this. 
Game is he's a chaperone. 

1853
01:34:06,640 --> 01:34:08,560
He's a chaperone. 
I'll take Eli Raritan. 

1854
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:12,200
Wow, let's go tight. 
End Jacob. 

1855
01:34:12,680 --> 01:34:15,880
Jacob's not here, but if he was 
here, he would tell you this is 

1856
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,920
a crazy pick. 
Eli Raritan shouldn't be 

1857
01:34:18,920 --> 01:34:22,920
anywhere near anyone's team in 
whatever game you're playing. 

1858
01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:24,840
Certainly not that's. 
The worst pick on the board? 

1859
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:28,040
Certainly not Dynasty, where 
he's much more bearish than I 

1860
01:34:28,040 --> 01:34:29,320
am. 
I think he hasn't. 

1861
01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:32,720
One pick later, he we both like 
him a lot. 

1862
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,760
Yeah, I think by the end of the 
year, maybe Eli Raritan's making

1863
01:34:35,760 --> 01:34:39,080
some noise for the Patriots and 
is carved out a role. 

1864
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:41,480
And for a game where we 
literally don't care about 

1865
01:34:41,480 --> 01:34:45,240
advancing, no, we don't need 
chaperones like Dante and Wix. 

1866
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:47,200
I mean. 
Only that we don't care about 

1867
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:49,800
advancing or maybe any of it, so
you might as well take your 

1868
01:34:49,800 --> 01:34:51,240
shot. 
Yeah, let's take my shot. 

1869
01:34:51,240 --> 01:34:52,840
And we, we the last three weeks 
of the year. 

1870
01:34:53,080 --> 01:34:54,240
Sam, you want to throw an name 
in? 

1871
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:56,920
Yeah, I'll do. 
I mentioned him earlier. 

1872
01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:00,760
I'll do Chris, Chris Brazell. 
This is all about Lacey's and 

1873
01:35:00,760 --> 01:35:03,440
upside. 
I think draft from the third 

1874
01:35:03,440 --> 01:35:08,120
round, I think Xavier Leggett 
very much can be on his way out 

1875
01:35:08,160 --> 01:35:11,480
of Carolina. 
So I like him as AI think he's 

1876
01:35:11,480 --> 01:35:15,640
draftable as an 18th round 
player, you know, on on stacks 

1877
01:35:15,640 --> 01:35:19,600
or if you need to bring back. 
This is when we go around the 

1878
01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,440
room with who's promoting what. 
But can I throw one more? 

1879
01:35:22,440 --> 01:35:24,400
I know it's late. 
Can I throw one more name in 

1880
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,040
just to see how you guys react 
to it immediately? 

1881
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,480
Sure. 
Brendan Sorsby. 

1882
01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:33,000
He's not going to be, he's not 
going to be in the player pool. 

1883
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:36,960
It'll just be very interesting 
to see what the supplemental 

1884
01:35:37,480 --> 01:35:40,440
draft pick on him is like if 
some team actually spends a 

1885
01:35:40,440 --> 01:35:44,400
second or whatever. 
We'll also be a giant fucking 

1886
01:35:44,400 --> 01:35:48,200
headache for all dynasty 
commissioners out there because 

1887
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,280
you're going to have some 
dipshit in your league. 

1888
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,840
This person is generally me 
who's traded. 

1889
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,800
For one. 
One extra fab dollar. 

1890
01:35:56,480 --> 01:36:00,640
I've, I've, I do this every year
when there's something like 

1891
01:36:00,640 --> 01:36:01,920
this. 
Like remember, you guys remember

1892
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:03,880
Chuba Hubbard? 
There was talk that he was going

1893
01:36:03,880 --> 01:36:06,080
to leave Oklahoma State during 
COVID and do the supplemental 

1894
01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:07,880
draft. 
So I traded for extra fab 

1895
01:36:07,880 --> 01:36:12,240
dollars then good, good, good. 
Like everyone should go and do 

1896
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:13,760
this right now. 
Because if your league is just 

1897
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:15,640
kind of put him on fab, then 
you'll be able to win him 

1898
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:18,960
because if not, then you're just
going to bid future picks. 

1899
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:22,400
But either way, big headache for
dynasty commissioners out there.

1900
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:23,960
How? 
I don't know. 

1901
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:27,480
I haven't dug into Sorsby much. 
Like where was he expected to go

1902
01:36:27,720 --> 01:36:30,640
in next year's draft? 
Like he's, you know, he's one of

1903
01:36:30,640 --> 01:36:32,360
those guys who could be a first 
round pick. 

1904
01:36:33,360 --> 01:36:37,840
He's at 38 on the mock draft 
database since it's this big 

1905
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:42,080
board, so 1-2 border. 
So there has not been a 

1906
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:44,760
supplemental pick made in the 
NFL in seven years. 

1907
01:36:45,800 --> 01:36:47,920
We talked about this on WGR 
today. 

1908
01:36:47,920 --> 01:36:53,240
There's an insane trade to look 
up in 1985 where the Browns 

1909
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:58,160
traded seven overall and another
pick to the Bills. 

1910
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:03,720
Or they're actually they're 86 
first round pick two to get 

1911
01:37:03,720 --> 01:37:06,880
Bernie Kosar in the supplemental
draft, which they did. 

1912
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,480
And then the Bills ended up with
the worst record in the league 

1913
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:14,960
again and their pick was 
forfeited to the Browns who took

1914
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:18,760
Bernie Kosar the year before. 
So then Tampa Bay got the 1st 

1915
01:37:18,760 --> 01:37:22,720
overall pick in the draft and 
they picked Bo Jackson who 

1916
01:37:22,720 --> 01:37:25,960
refused to play for them. 
His eligibility was a, you know,

1917
01:37:25,960 --> 01:37:28,160
a controversy like Elway before 
that. 

1918
01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:32,000
Another guy since. 
And then he ends up the Bucks 

1919
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:35,280
lose his rights and the Raiders 
draft him in the seventh round 

1920
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:37,880
in 87 he plays for the Raiders. 
Worked like that. 

1921
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:39,600
Who? 
Who was the final? 

1922
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,000
Who was the last supplemental 
pick? 

1923
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:44,720
29 Josh Gordon. 
No, that's the last. 

1924
01:37:44,720 --> 01:37:48,120
It was still a player. 
Not a name I remember. 

1925
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:53,560
But all I remember is Tyrell 
Meyer and Josh Gordon and in 

1926
01:37:53,560 --> 01:37:56,160
like terms of relevant ones in 
recent memory, but I don't 

1927
01:37:56,160 --> 01:37:58,080
remember. 
That's about what there is. 

1928
01:37:58,160 --> 01:37:59,480
So you're right. 
I mean, they're you're not 

1929
01:37:59,480 --> 01:38:01,360
missing anything. 
We'll see. 

1930
01:38:01,480 --> 01:38:04,440
OK, interesting. 
Who's got who's got what this 

1931
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:09,000
week? 
A new new fantasy football 

1932
01:38:09,000 --> 01:38:11,120
channel for me. 
If you are if you don't like 

1933
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:15,720
basketball and you just like 
redraft content, Matic Fantasy 

1934
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,320
football just posted the first 
video today. 

1935
01:38:17,320 --> 01:38:20,680
Probably going to be a bunch of 
videos on actually Shope and I 

1936
01:38:20,680 --> 01:38:23,400
we just did the the hard way 
league. 

1937
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:27,600
What was that on Friday I'm 
going to make a video on that 

1938
01:38:27,600 --> 01:38:30,400
because I've that was my first 
like redraft league of the year 

1939
01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:34,200
and I I did get best ball brain 
in the middle of it. 

1940
01:38:34,400 --> 01:38:37,040
I mean, I was out at a nice 
steak dinner drafting this team 

1941
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:42,320
and I, I drafted I think Mahomes
in like round 11 or something. 

1942
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:45,080
And then I drafted Kyler Murray 
in the next round because I was 

1943
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:48,880
like, dude, quarterback window 
got a. 

1944
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:52,160
Film that early since the 
production. 

1945
01:38:53,120 --> 01:38:55,240
Yes, call me if you want to chat
about that. 

1946
01:38:55,240 --> 01:38:59,080
I did Theo Greminger's podcast 
today live, his first live for 

1947
01:38:59,200 --> 01:39:01,600
fantasy points, and he was in 
that draft too. 

1948
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:05,440
I did another one of those on 
well last night I guess and you 

1949
01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:07,880
and I are going to do pros 
versus Joe's together this year,

1950
01:39:07,880 --> 01:39:09,040
which? 
I think, Oh yeah, I heard you 

1951
01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:11,640
guys are doing yeah, you're the 
the ADP chasing team. 

1952
01:39:12,040 --> 01:39:12,920
Well, you don't know you can do 
it. 

1953
01:39:12,960 --> 01:39:15,280
You can do it too, Pat. 
We can all we can all do it. 

1954
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:18,040
Although unless Pat's already 
in. 

1955
01:39:18,200 --> 01:39:19,760
I think I'm already in one. 
Yeah. 

1956
01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:21,680
OK, cool. 
I'm not sure how well I'll work 

1957
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:23,440
together with Davis, but we'll 
do our best. 

1958
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:28,400
Hey, we we had, we had one of 
our 125 teams was good last 

1959
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:29,280
year. 
Yeah, we have. 

1960
01:39:29,440 --> 01:39:31,600
We have some credits to spend 
this summer. 

1961
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:35,040
Easy to draft Kyler Murray on 
site. 

1962
01:39:35,040 --> 01:39:38,240
Credits. 
Sam, Pat. 

1963
01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:44,200
Well, me and Sam will be back on
YouTube on Thursday for that's 

1964
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,440
fair at 5:30 Eastern. 
Check that out. 

1965
01:39:47,280 --> 01:39:50,760
We're doing that every week. 
Are we doing ship chasing 

1966
01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:53,200
tomorrow? 
Is that happening? 

1967
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:55,760
Yeah. 
OK, check that out. 

1968
01:39:56,120 --> 01:39:59,800
We don't know what we're doing 
though, but it'll and it'll just

1969
01:39:59,800 --> 01:40:03,200
be the three of us because Jacob
is like eating a fucking alpaca.

1970
01:40:05,080 --> 01:40:06,840
Not a bit. 
He literally, he literally ate 

1971
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:11,520
alpaca. 
OK, yeah, check everything over.

1972
01:40:11,880 --> 01:40:15,200
Check everything out over at 
Legendary Upside Rankings and of

1973
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:17,800
course, the sidekick 
legendaryupside.com/sidekick. 

1974
01:40:18,240 --> 01:40:23,680
And yeah, I'll be back on Monday
after Best Ball breakfast with 

1975
01:40:24,400 --> 01:40:28,560
the Index, our stream there and 
I did right before ADP chasing. 

1976
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:33,160
Every week I'm doing a mailbag 
show where yeah, I answer 

1977
01:40:33,160 --> 01:40:34,840
questions from the chat, so you 
can check that out too. 

1978
01:40:35,440 --> 01:40:37,720
Cool, Sam. 
Anything else? 

1979
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:40,760
And I nothing else besides 
that's fair on Thursday and then

1980
01:40:40,760 --> 01:40:43,400
best of all breakfast on Monday 
on Pete's channel. 

1981
01:40:43,400 --> 01:40:44,880
That's all I got going on this 
off season all. 

1982
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:50,080
Right for me, the Odyssey app 
AUDACYWGR weekdays three to 

1983
01:40:50,080 --> 01:40:51,680
seven. 
I know, not as cool anymore 

1984
01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:56,280
since the Sabres lost, but we'll
do our best for our heroes. 

1985
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Pat Davis, Sam, I'm Mike. 
Thanks for watching and 

1986
01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:04,560
listening. 
Yeah, sorry guys, this is. 

1987
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Where Pat is next week's last 
calls we can sort. 

1988
01:41:09,920 --> 01:41:10,800
Of like Kendrick Warren.