1 00:00:02,280 --> 00:00:07,000 Hello everyone, and welcome to a special August 5th edition of 2 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,560 ADP Chasing. We are joined today by special 3 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,800 guests Adam Levitan and we have real training camp news to 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,800 discuss. Cooper cop is injured. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,440 Jordan Addison, Mike suspended mid season. 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:21,440 We'll break it all down here. Let's do it. 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:27,200 ATP chasing is for when you watch ship chasing, you go these 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:29,880 guys are just football guys. And the targets for outrun 9 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:31,120 leagues, that's going to be really nice. 10 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:32,640 Actually, back in, if it's Austinette, it's. 11 00:00:32,759 --> 00:00:35,360 Here to our crystal ball. close your eyes. 12 00:00:35,480 --> 00:00:37,520 You know all your entries are going to lose anyway. 13 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Yeah. That's fair. 14 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,440 This is a Deuce vant show. It's. 15 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:43,280 Anti cabal. It's anti the best ball thought 16 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:45,400 leader. I'm obviously lying to some 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,000 degree because like, I have a lot of both of these guys. 18 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:56,560 It's the most disgusting thing you can make, but man, how's it 19 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:58,920 going everyone? Going good. 20 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,320 Sherman, you said Cooper Cupp is injured. 21 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:06,320 You also wore a polo to lift weights. 22 00:01:06,760 --> 00:01:10,240 Today, what is the what is the what is the lifting weights 23 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,920 polo? And, and I saw Davis send an 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,800 apology tweet after you delete. He doesn't understand that when 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,440 you go delete life, you just pretend like it never happened. 26 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,720 I mean, what the hell? What the hell is going on here 27 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:22,960 guys? That a tough. 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,440 Well, let me let's let's just let's just get behind the 29 00:01:26,440 --> 00:01:28,400 curtain here. So you guys have probably 30 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:30,600 noticed on my Twitter account, I've been tweeting out a lot of 31 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:35,600 news, a lot of athletic ESPN plus like paywalled stuff, and 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,000 it's going pretty well. Like those are those are tweets 33 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:40,280 that are performing well. I think it's like a legitimate 34 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,840 service to provide like people like it. 35 00:01:43,880 --> 00:01:46,640 My my Twitter account is growing, Whatever, whatever. 36 00:01:47,320 --> 00:01:49,400 So I'm like this Iuke thing is a pretty big deal. 37 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,280 I'll even call out the exact guy Crane, you know this guy who 38 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,760 posted it in Pete's Discord. Chung high stakes FFPC Grinder. 39 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:02,200 I'm on a show with Brian Hooper. We're about to finish recording. 40 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:04,200 So I checked Discord. I had a couple notifications. 41 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,360 I pull up Pete's discord, I see this, I tweet and I'm like, this 42 00:02:08,360 --> 00:02:10,560 is huge. That's like, that's like 14 43 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:14,240 retweets, you know, 417 favorites. 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:18,600 Like that's like line it up. And then I realized and then I 45 00:02:18,600 --> 00:02:22,720 realized after route Nez Nez added me and told me that it was 46 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:24,720 fake and. I was like. 47 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:27,320 Shit, all right, I got to delete this. 48 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:30,560 So you did absolutely zero work to determine if it was real 49 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:35,120 before getting your 14 retweets. No, come on. 50 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:38,080 Why would you send an apology to? 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,960 That's my thing. I've gone delete life before 52 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,120 also. But then you don't send an 53 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:42,720 apology, you just act like it never happened. 54 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:46,600 Well, because I would act like it never happened if it was 55 00:02:46,640 --> 00:02:48,800 really not a big deal, but like Brandon. 56 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,680 But like what? This is what actually happened. 57 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:54,880 Someone else. So the person who Chung posted 58 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:58,200 in Pete's Discord, they took an old Brandon Iuke photo from like 59 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,360 March on his actual Instagram, edited it and added this 60 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,480 dealer's like it's like a particularly egregious 61 00:03:05,720 --> 00:03:07,960 miscarriage justice on on Twitter. 62 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,680 So I felt normally I would not apologize, but this specific 63 00:03:11,680 --> 00:03:15,120 infraction demanded an apology. Yeah. 64 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,040 And to defend the the words, yeah, in the polo, today was 65 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:21,040 laundry day. Had no more athletic shirts 66 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,080 left. So that's, that's all I had. 67 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:25,400 Unacceptable. Sorry. 68 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,280 More unacceptable than what I'm I'm on vacation. 69 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:31,480 Right now I don't have my full wardrobe so that's that's my 70 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,800 explanation. It goes well with the the polo 71 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,400 for working out goes well with the commemorative Revolutionary 72 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:48,680 War plate in your background. All right, well, I was on. 73 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,480 I was on Twitter over the weekend and I saw Mike McDaniel 74 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,360 is just fake video of him going around. 75 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,880 It's like AI generated where he talks about like Tyree Kevin and 76 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,840 you know, none of another kid or whatever, and he's saying he's 77 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,600 working on on his pull out game. And I was like, man, I mean, 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,880 this is funny, but it's like a whole new world we're living in. 79 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:12,280 We're like AI deep fake like videos that didn't exist and 80 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,040 then today to just find out like just coloring in some hearts, 81 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:16,800 different colors will will still get people. 82 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,600 Maybe, maybe you don't have to worry. 83 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,840 You know all. Right. 84 00:04:23,960 --> 00:04:29,160 Got me, got me. Let's dive into the meet of 85 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:32,200 today's show. We only have Levitan for an 86 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:33,360 hour. It's actually hard to get him 87 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:34,640 for an hour. He's used to. 88 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:36,480 He's used to like 15 minute podcast. 89 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,880 Yeah. Who has two hours in the middle 90 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:43,560 of the day? Get a job, Jesus Christ. 91 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:47,480 You think? Two hours long, Adam. 92 00:04:47,840 --> 00:04:52,720 Yeah, right, buddy. Actually, I'm not sure if you 93 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:55,320 guys are aware, I'm sure the YouTube, the YouTube grinders 94 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,880 are, we've actually gone longer on our YouTube stuff. 95 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:03,360 Not like you fucking insane people, but but clearly 96 00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:06,520 YouTube's been rewarding longer watch time stuff lately. 97 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,640 So yes, if you've noticed, if you've noticed on the ETR 98 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:12,000 channel, we have started going, they're spreading our wings a 99 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,040 little bit, not to the extent that you sick Fox do, but but 100 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:16,200 not. Trying to do You're not trying 101 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,880 to do a 5 hour stream on a Tuesday man. 102 00:05:19,280 --> 00:05:24,720 I I would love to. I would love to. 103 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,120 It's not practical, but yes. We're going to. 104 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,080 So we'll start today with the Cooper cop and Puka Nakua 105 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,800 situation. As I incorrectly said, an intro 106 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:39,600 Puka Nakua got hurt, not Cooper Cop, he landed hard on his knee 107 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:44,960 at practice a couple days ago. Schefter has called him week to 108 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:49,720 week and from his source heard that it is quote not serious in 109 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:54,280 terms of Puka's knee injury. So I think partially as a result 110 00:05:54,280 --> 00:05:57,720 of that and partially just because of general good vibes 111 00:05:57,720 --> 00:05:59,680 that Cooper Cup was getting in camp before then. 112 00:05:59,920 --> 00:06:04,120 He is up two spots now, getting very close to the 2-3 turn. 113 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,000 Start with the Cooper Cup side of things here. 114 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:09,440 Adam. How are you approaching Cooper 115 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,840 Cop around the two three turn pick 26 on underdog. 116 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,120 Yeah, I think the the biggest thing on Cooper Cup for me has 117 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,480 been a full offseason of health. Like literally the entire 118 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:22,440 offseason Cooper Cup has been working, no injuries, no 119 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:23,760 surgeries. Remember last year was coming 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,280 off of the tightrope stuff and other issues, hamstring, 121 00:06:27,280 --> 00:06:28,960 etcetera. Seems like he's been totally 122 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:33,040 clean all offseason. So especially on full PPR, not 123 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:37,480 as much on underdog, but on full PPR, I've taken cup in the, I 124 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:42,920 don't know, 30th range a reasonable amount as he moves up 125 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:46,000 here and I think he's going to move a lot more on this on this 126 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,480 puka Nikua stuff. To me it comes down to who you 127 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,520 think the alpha is, How serious you think this knee injury is. 128 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,120 I haven't seen an actual diagnosis on Nikua. 129 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:56,280 My assumption is it's something similar ish to DeAndre Hopkins, 130 00:06:56,280 --> 00:07:00,160 some type of like strained MCL or yeah, this guy is is 131 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:03,440 speculating PCL sprain or or bone bruise. 132 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,160 We're still so far out. You know, I know it feels like 133 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,240 it's close now because we've all been drafting for three or four 134 00:07:08,240 --> 00:07:09,520 months, but we're still so far out. 135 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,080 I'm going to play it as if Puka Nakua is ready for week 1. 136 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:18,200 We did move I think 1/2 percent or or percent of base share from 137 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:21,320 puka to Cooper Cup. But like Sam said, I think 138 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,320 that's a combination of the injury and just general good 139 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,720 vibes and good camp on Cooper Cups. 140 00:07:26,720 --> 00:07:30,920 So yeah, I think there's so many question marks in round two 141 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:34,840 right now, I would throw Cooper Cup into the mix. 142 00:07:34,840 --> 00:07:38,120 There is somewhat of a 2-3 turn I'm willing to cat take on as 143 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,640 one of those question marks. Also that makes sense. 144 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:46,480 I I want to get a little bit into Cooper cups drop off last 145 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,680 year. And obviously it's worth noting 146 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:52,160 that he he's going to drop off in a lot of these statistics and 147 00:07:52,160 --> 00:07:55,480 you can chalk it up to the injury and and kind of throw the 148 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:57,280 season out. But I think it is worth noting 149 00:07:57,520 --> 00:08:01,280 like exactly what happened last year, because starting with this 150 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:04,040 targets for Outrun stuff, I hear a lot of people saying, oh, you 151 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:07,840 know, we still had a 20, whatever 5% target share in the 152 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,720 games we played last season. It was a pretty big drop off 153 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:14,480 from his peak in targets for Outrun from you know, 30 and 28% 154 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,840 the past two seasons to 23% last year. 155 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:20,680 Pretty huge drop off in yards for Outrun half PPR points per 156 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:22,640 game. You even look at some more sort 157 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:27,360 of underlying like separation type statistics in ESP NS open 158 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,440 score. He had a pretty big drop off in 159 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,480 2023 ranking the 23rd percentile and open score. 160 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,159 And then Matt Harmon's success rate over expected stuff. 161 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:42,280 He was like a 90th 97 percentile guy in 2021 and 2022 dropped all 162 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,880 the way down to 45 percentile and Harmon stuff there. 163 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:50,160 So again, like you can say he was injured last season. 164 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:55,160 That explains all of the data. I'm still worried about a 31 165 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:58,240 year old wide receiver who's been really banged up the past 166 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:00,600 two seasons returning to his peak form. 167 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,400 And for me, like I do think he belongs in this sort. 168 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,160 Of time to learn breakfast, club buddy. 169 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:07,480 Yeah, it's time to learn breakfast. 170 00:09:07,720 --> 00:09:11,400 Just to finish my point, I think he belongs in the tier of these 171 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,760 wide receivers like the neighbors, DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, 172 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,480 etcetera. I'm just breaking my ties to the 173 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:20,520 younger players because I think their floor is way way better. 174 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,720 Even though I do acknowledge that that cups like True Ceiling 175 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:27,400 maybe surpasses those guys, I prefer the the floor. 176 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:29,800 Of you mean the guy with the greatest PPR wide receiver 177 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,120 season in history? Yeah, but in basketball, we're 178 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:37,880 not like playing for like league winners as much as like floor. 179 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,320 I think in the, you know, second and third rounds, just just. 180 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,160 Do your bit where you say he got out produced by a fifth round 181 00:09:44,160 --> 00:09:48,200 rookie from Who are you? It's your third round pick. 182 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,680 So when you, when you're in week 17, you're going to need some 183 00:09:51,680 --> 00:09:53,400 huge scores in your third round pick. 184 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,800 Being able to put up a huge score would be extremely 185 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,560 helpful. So I I don't really buy the 186 00:09:57,560 --> 00:10:02,600 floor argument in the sense of like, I mean, we need we don't 187 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:05,440 want to just be like taking on extremely risky players in the 188 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:08,120 third round. But the fact that he did turn in 189 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,680 that season a couple years ago is still really enticing to me. 190 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,920 And I don't I feel like, you know, using he's had two injury 191 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,360 plagued seasons since. Remember he was going to like 192 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,480 retire this time last year when we got we got that report, like 193 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,280 it's been, you know, so then he, you know, his numbers fall off 194 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:31,480 last year as well, But like I'm not concerned that he was way 195 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:34,840 down from a 30% targets per hour on while operating as the clear 196 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:37,320 number one on his team. Like that's how you have that 197 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:40,400 monster season and and you're gonna regress from that most 198 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:44,000 likely the Harmon point. I think it does carry some 199 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,080 weight. He's never really been good in 200 00:10:46,080 --> 00:10:48,120 open score. And I think a potential weakness 201 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,680 of that metric is it's like doesn't include any sort of 202 00:10:50,680 --> 00:10:54,240 timing of like I I think part of it with him is just the mind 203 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,120 meld that he has with Stafford. That's interesting that he he 204 00:10:58,120 --> 00:11:01,840 did drop off in Harmon's stuff, which you know, he'd he'd been 205 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:05,200 better in. So but if you look at like just 206 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:09,440 the last couple years, what his stats are like, he's he's still 207 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,960 over 2 yards per hour and over the last two years. 208 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,760 So that's, you know, without including that monster season. 209 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:18,520 I don't think he needs to return. 210 00:11:18,560 --> 00:11:21,680 Like if he returns to peak form, then he should have been a first 211 00:11:21,680 --> 00:11:23,360 round pick. Yeah. 212 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,720 So that's not actually the bet we're making in the third round. 213 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:29,880 We're betting that he stops Pukka from turning into what Cup 214 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,320 was a couple years ago. And he's like just, you know, a 215 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,320 clear secondary guy. So this morning I went because 216 00:11:36,320 --> 00:11:38,360 this is, we've been talking about this on the show for like 217 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,200 the last month, like, oh, why didn't Nakua ever run full 218 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,320 routes in college? And I wanted to see if I could 219 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,120 find anything that his coaches had said. 220 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,320 So I didn't find anything that his coaches said. 221 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,600 But BYU's official website mentioned that he battled lower 222 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,200 body injuries. In 2022. 223 00:11:53,560 --> 00:11:57,760 He injured his groin in high school, so he didn't play full 224 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,680 snaps as a freshman either. So like he didn't he and he was 225 00:12:00,680 --> 00:12:03,320 a really high level recruit. Believe he was the number six 226 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:05,920 overall wide receiver recruit coming out of high school. 227 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,080 He broke a bone in his foot after recovering from another 228 00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:13,920 injury as a freshman. And then all of the BYU beat 229 00:12:13,920 --> 00:12:18,120 writers, I went back and looked at like his like he got our our 230 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:20,520 guy got draft in the NFL. And they all mentioned the lower 231 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,480 body injuries. I mean, I don't want to put it 232 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:24,880 out there and I'm not saying this. 233 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,400 And I went through a rankings change today and I didn't, I 234 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,520 didn't move Nickua there. Definitely not saying this. 235 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:32,480 But not putting it out there, except, except for the tweet, he 236 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,840 said about all of the. Nickua, I'm definitely not 237 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:40,680 saying this, but what I am saying is I wonder if the Rams 238 00:12:40,680 --> 00:12:44,800 coaches eventually end up doing something kind of similar to 239 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:46,560 what happened with Nickua at college. 240 00:12:46,560 --> 00:12:49,080 Which was he didn't run that many rounds. 241 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,160 He ran about. He ran about 75% of the. 242 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,400 Rounds, I don't think that's, I mean, I don't think there's any 243 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,680 chance that happens to be honest. 244 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,120 It's it's yeah, I I think it's more question of role, but 245 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,280 anyway, the one thing that I would say about both these guys, 246 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:04,040 I think Arizona who obviously the Rams playing week 17. 247 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:07,040 I know all you virgins have your flash cards ready so who they 248 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:08,760 play in week 17 the. Flash cards. 249 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,320 This might be May. Crane invented a mnemonic device 250 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,600 to. The flash cards give me. 251 00:13:15,560 --> 00:13:18,040 A break, I think they might have the worst past events in the NFL 252 00:13:18,120 --> 00:13:22,240 period, like the worst past rush combined with extreme lack of 253 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,640 secondary talent in Arizona. So I think when you're breaking 254 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,280 ties there, I think that's interesting and like to to what 255 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:28,800 Sam said, I hear what you're saying. 256 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,600 I think you just have to think about it in comparison to 257 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:33,680 players he goes around. So we're up to 23 overall in 258 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:36,560 underdog right now. We have Mike Evans 22, Brandon 259 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,280 Iuquish situation is getting messier 21, neighbors 24, 260 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,520 Devonta Smith 26, Metcalf 28, DJ Moore 29. 261 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:46,520 You're not comparing him to the elite of the elite. 262 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,400 You're comparing him to guys we have like wide receiver 20 and 263 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:52,240 wide receiver 19. And at that point with a, when a 264 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:56,000 guy like Cooper Cup with literally the, I, I think the 265 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:59,640 best, most friendly wide receiver quarterback maybe in 266 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:02,000 the history of the NFL and Matthew Stafford, I, I'd be 267 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,560 willing to, to capitulate and take some shots there. 268 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,960 Yeah, let me just clarify my floor point. 269 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:11,240 I, I guess what I mean by that is like assuming they're 270 00:14:11,240 --> 00:14:15,160 healthy, I'm very confident going into weeks 15 to 17 that 271 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:19,320 if I have DJ Moore, DK Metcalf, Malik neighbors, those guys are 272 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,640 going to have massive weekly ceilings in week 15 to 17. 273 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,080 I think there's just some outcomes with the age risk stuff 274 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:26,840 like this. Again, it was. 275 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:29,840 You're saying it was a match of? Week neighbor ceiling over 276 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:35,280 Cooper cup ceiling like we no bro there's I'm just saying that 277 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,480 there's. No chance that like DJ Moore or 278 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:41,680 DK Metcalf are like not good football players anymore and you 279 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,560 have to price in that risk with Cooper Cop. 280 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,880 After yeah, I don't like you, I really don't think you have to 281 00:14:47,400 --> 00:14:49,320 that he's not a good football player anymore. 282 00:14:50,040 --> 00:14:53,680 I'm just betting again, I'm willing to just bet he's a. 3232 283 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:56,400 year old wide receiver right that's that's off a massive drop 284 00:14:56,400 --> 00:14:58,120 off How how are we pretending there's no. 285 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:03,080 But he OK, but Sam like that's. Also, that's a classic Davis 286 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:05,640 Matic thing right there. He added a year, he added. 287 00:15:05,640 --> 00:15:09,040 He just added that he's only 31. Sam just did the classic Davis 288 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:10,040 Matic thing he just made. Him. 289 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,560 Yeah, He, he, he. Just turned. 31. 290 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:17,880 He's about to turn 33. He had 1.77 yards per route run 291 00:15:17,880 --> 00:15:20,480 last year. That includes the playoff game, 292 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,000 which she didn't do a ton in. That's fine. 293 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:28,960 It's not amazing like he has been over the the years before 294 00:15:28,960 --> 00:15:33,960 that Even so 2021 season obviously was insane 3.12 but he 295 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:38,480 was 2.402 years ago. So it's not like we're not 296 00:15:38,480 --> 00:15:41,800 writing off a season where he was like atrocious like this 297 00:15:41,800 --> 00:15:44,600 isn't a 1.1 yards per hour. And I'm like, Oh my God, this 298 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,480 guy's done like. He's not Jonathan fucking Mingo 299 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:53,440 dude, he's Cooper cup. Yeah. 300 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:56,680 That's, that's again, that's I don't know, it's not what I'm 301 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:58,400 saying. And I just want to share this 302 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,760 from Dwayne McFarlane. He's a lot of research into when 303 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:04,320 to sort of jump off the train with these aging elite wide 304 00:16:04,320 --> 00:16:07,440 receivers and he flagged Cooper cuff as someone that was 305 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:11,120 flashing a lot of warning signs. So again, I, I, I disagree that 306 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,720 you can't price an age risk for a guy that showed again, he he 307 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:17,800 like it's a decline off a very high point. 308 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,440 So I acknowledge that, But I I wouldn't just completely dismiss 309 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,840 again, like these aren't bad wide receivers that we have to 310 00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:27,640 pick over Cooper Cup. It's DK Metcalf, DJ Moore, Malik 311 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,280 Neighbors, Devonta Smith. I I personally like my odds with 312 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:32,840 those guys better than cop, but I realize. 313 00:16:33,280 --> 00:16:36,160 Definitely my my truth serum. If you know, you guys were 314 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,120 talking about that on ship chasing last week, like if we 315 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,600 all did a show where we were on truth serum, my truth serum 316 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,880 would be my true heart of heart of hearts would be I would just 317 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:46,000 take Cooper cup straight up over puka like, oh. 318 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:47,880 Yeah, we got to do the truth serum show. 319 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,200 I just love it. Yeah. 320 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,520 Like the Rams PR 'cause I was doing the, I was doing the news 321 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,160 stuff. Rams PR is all in, you know, 322 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,520 it's still, Stafford still does The Breakfast Club. 323 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:03,320 Like is he throws to cup 1st and when they practice their routes 324 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:06,520 and everything it's it's all it's all there if he can stay 325 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:10,200 healthy. On on the puka injury though, it 326 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:14,359 is interesting like with his it, it shows just I think how locked 327 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,960 in that top 11 is like no one even wants to consider taking 328 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,359 anyone that's not those 11. So so everybody's going to start 329 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:26,240 taking Marvin Harrison Puka all the week 17 Burroughs like 330 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,080 everybody who has the 12 spot that's going to take Puka Nakua 331 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:31,320 Marvin. Harris, our generation's. 332 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,760 So are you taking like Gibbs at 11, Adam? 333 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:39,120 No, I think I would take Gary Wilson, if that's well, Garrett. 334 00:17:39,200 --> 00:17:41,680 Wilson will be gone because he was going 11. 335 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:44,760 He'll go over puka. So we have Drake London 11 now, 336 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:48,680 Puka 12, Marvin 13 and and Gibbs 14. 337 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:50,880 Yeah, that that seems about right to me. 338 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,640 Let's move on here to another player that I'm sure is going to 339 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,920 be a quick debate. Justin Fields up 16 spots. 340 00:17:59,080 --> 00:18:00,560 Well, he's going. To take He's going to take the 341 00:18:00,600 --> 00:18:03,480 short side on this one. 1. 90s Sam. 342 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:06,320 Go ahead Sam. Why is this dead? 343 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:10,880 You know, I I debated long hard about this whether I wanted to 344 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:14,560 lean into the bit of being the anti Justin Fields guy Crane and 345 00:18:14,560 --> 00:18:19,760 I famously have have a bet that I I got this in at 5 to one 346 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:21,920 odds. For the record, I only owe 347 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:23,040 crane. I only owe. 348 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,440 You're still lose, but. Crane owes me 50 if Justin 349 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:30,480 Fields does not start week 1, so I I won the bet regardless of 350 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:31,720 the outcome I got. It in a good process. 351 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:35,640 It was a good. Process, but yeah man, it's. 352 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:39,520 The vibes, The vibes on Russell. Regardless of the outcome, 353 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:43,680 regardless of the. Outcome doesn't matter. 354 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,800 I got it in good. Here's a quote from chapter 355 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:49,440 today and then I'll take it to you guys. 356 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,440 Schefter quote on the Maccabee show. 357 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,000 I still think that Russell Wilson has the pole position and 358 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:57,240 we'll see what happens when he's back from this calf injury. 359 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,800 It's obviously become like more of a true competition than what 360 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,760 Steelers brass was framing it as being with where 10? 361 00:19:04,120 --> 00:19:05,480 Where? Where is the competition? 362 00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:08,720 Russell Wilson got hurt in his fun conditioning practice and 363 00:19:08,720 --> 00:19:11,200 hasn't practiced. So yeah, of course Justin Fields 364 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:14,280 out there looking at how do we know that if Russ Wilson wasn't 365 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:15,720 out there for the last two weeks, he looked good. 366 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,560 Russ Wilson, Does he hurt? Himself pushing a slit. 367 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:21,720 Adam. Exactly so so. 368 00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:24,880 To me, this has gotten completely, completely out of 369 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:26,480 control. I would still take action on 370 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,240 anyone who wants to bet on Justin Fields starting week one. 371 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,520 I'm happy to take Russell Wilson now. 372 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,800 If you want to tell me you think Justin Fields is going to start 373 00:19:32,920 --> 00:19:36,000 in the fantasy playoffs and make a bunch of starts this year, you 374 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:37,240 might very well be right. Right. 375 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,520 I still think it's Russell Wilson. 376 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,440 So in in Week 1. I had obviously Sam got me 377 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:45,440 process wise on on the fields bet we'll see. 378 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:50,520 Obviously. But what about I bet Leone just 379 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,360 straight up 100 bucks who starts week 14? 380 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:57,000 I have field side on that Where where are you on that I? 381 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:00,960 I would call that a a probably close to a flip at this point. 382 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:03,520 I, I, I don't think like this field stuff. 383 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,160 You realize that the best the Bears could do was a conditional 384 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:08,520 sixth round pick for him. The NFL does not like this guy 385 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,760 whatsoever. He's he's asked, but also 386 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:13,240 Russell Wilson is. Agreed. 387 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:15,200 Yeah, and that's an important part of this. 388 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,240 And that's why, and that's why I would call it a stone cold flip, 389 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:19,320 because they're both fucking terrible at playing NFL football 390 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,200 like. You know, but Levitan and the 391 00:20:21,200 --> 00:20:24,160 thing about the week one stuff is is you know, where Fields 392 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,120 always looks really fucking good practice because he can't get 393 00:20:27,120 --> 00:20:29,880 sacked in practice. He looks he's like, he's like, 394 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,600 he's like the opposite of Tebow. He's like the GOAT practice 395 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,120 quarterback because the fact that he's a half second behind 396 00:20:36,120 --> 00:20:38,840 in the processing matters way less in practice. 397 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,440 And Tomlin, you know, the quarterbacks Tomlin has been 398 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:46,040 watching for the last five years of his life, Pickett, Mason 399 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:49,520 Rudolph, Duck Hodges. He's he's looking at Justin 400 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:52,080 Fields like I've never seen anything like. 401 00:20:52,120 --> 00:20:54,040 This well he had Ben Roethlisberger at the tail end 402 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:55,920 of his career for like 6 years before that. 403 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,600 He's he can't believe what he's seeing with Fields. 404 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:03,160 Yeah, Yeah. The, the other thing that I was 405 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:06,360 going to say about this field stuff is like there's certain 406 00:21:06,360 --> 00:21:08,720 builds, like it's a very specific build where I consider 407 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,800 taking Justin Fields. Like let's say I get stuck in 408 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,480 quarterback and I have two like no upside. 409 00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,680 Let's say I end up with like Stafford and Baker as my 2 410 00:21:16,680 --> 00:21:18,960 quarterbacks. I'm willing to take attack on 411 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:21,400 Justin Fields at that point, but now these animals are now taking 412 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,840 Justin Fields in like the one 50s so I don't see how I'm going 413 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:25,480 to get. Justin Fields That's The thing 414 00:21:25,480 --> 00:21:29,360 is you can't give slappies like me an inch because then they'll 415 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:32,440 take a mile like I I'm in, I'm in. 416 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,760 So so we start doing this whole conversation and Leone is like 417 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,320 if you have Fields exposure and you think he gets benched, like 418 00:21:40,360 --> 00:21:42,480 basically Leonie called me a coward and I was like, I should 419 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,000 check my exposure. How much do I have? 420 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,480 And I only have 8% of him when this all started. 421 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,760 So now I'm in the 15th round and these slow puppies, like, I 422 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,120 mean, what's a 15th round pick really, you know, and. 423 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,640 That's no offense, buddy. Yeah, it is, I honestly think. 424 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,000 Yeah, I think also DraftKings versus underdog, this is a place 425 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,240 where there's a huge difference. I think on DraftKings, you can 426 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,880 get away with burning a pick because you have 20 roster 427 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,520 spots. Like you have so many luxury 428 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,240 picks in that format there. I'm almost taking a third 429 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:12,960 quarterback like the majority of the time unless maybe I have 430 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,000 Alan or Hertz. So there I'm way more inclined 431 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,800 to burn my 16th 17th round pick on Fields because again, I don't 432 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:23,200 think it like the other choice is like a 9th or 10th wide 433 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:24,920 receiver like that probably doesn't add that much. 434 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,880 I guarantee you as soon as Russ gets back in practice, Mark 435 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,880 Kabali and these other Steelers are going to be. 436 00:22:31,920 --> 00:22:34,200 All. Over this quote you have right 437 00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,320 here, this quote you have right here on the screen, it's going 438 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,320 to say the same thing, except it's going to say Russ Wilson is 439 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,440 killing it and he's going to be the starter for the whole year. 440 00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,240 Yeah. Yeah, he he he is a prime 441 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,320 offender. MM Kabali loves to hype up 442 00:22:46,320 --> 00:22:48,640 whichever quarterback the fans hate the most. 443 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,320 That that's like, it's like the thing. 444 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:55,200 I I so, but I do think so Kabali was saying because he was just 445 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,120 like towing the company line all offseason. 446 00:22:58,120 --> 00:23:00,280 Like it's Russ. It's never going to be Fields. 447 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,560 You won't see Fields this year. But he also was saying, but 448 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:08,000 Fields could be their starter in 2025. 449 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,920 I was like, what like if that's true at all? 450 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,760 And I like, I assume he heard that from someone like they 451 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,600 would have to take a look at him before, you know. 452 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:19,640 So I've read that as like, if the Steelers missed the 453 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:22,200 playoffs, we're we're definitely seeing fields because if they 454 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,840 have any interest in that at all, it just makes no sense to 455 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,040 roll out Russ once they they haven't made the playoffs. 456 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,440 So that's part of why I'm pretty confident we do. 457 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:30,520 I didn't. Follow. 458 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:32,560 The good news is the Steel. Yeah, Steelers have never made 459 00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:34,200 the playoffs with a dog shit quarterback. 460 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,200 OK, Did you guys, I don't know how, I don't know if you guys 461 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,320 are deep enough in the athletic weeds to get this, but they have 462 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:47,240 been practicing fields packages like specific like goal line 463 00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:52,640 fields bullshit like Oh yeah, flip to Jalen Moore in jail. 464 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,680 And make it the first snap so I can win this bet, you know? 465 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,200 No, we we're getting lawyers involved if there's a Wildcat, 466 00:23:58,360 --> 00:23:59,640 Justin. Field, because he's out there 467 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:00,520 for a while. We're getting snap. 468 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,160 Sam, The bet was most of. The point right now about Jordan 469 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,760 Addison, I'm going to hire him to to that. 470 00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,360 I would, but I would throw out there like I, I get what you're 471 00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:14,800 saying about fields, you know, potentially bailing you out in 472 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:19,640 like certain situations and certain builds, But I think he 473 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:23,600 also like he's he's the type of quarterback that we haven't 474 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,040 really had in this range of the draft very often. 475 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,960 And so he kind of bails you out in spots where you're like, oh, 476 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:32,840 do I do I need to be bailed out? Like if you have Brock Purdy and 477 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:37,120 Tua field seems pretty great. You know, like if you even if 478 00:24:37,120 --> 00:24:40,080 you have like Stroud and Trevor Lawrence, I'd be willing to add 479 00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,600 fields. I think like there's, you're 480 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,640 getting, there's. No build where I'm not adding 481 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:45,800 him. Right now, well, if you have 482 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,760 like Josh Allen, I don't know if you need to add fields. 483 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:51,280 Are you more you more want a guy who's. 484 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,240 What about what about starting? What about if you have Mahomes 485 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:57,520 and you just go raw dog Mahomes and fields? 486 00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:59,920 That honestly seems really fun to me. 487 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,120 On FFPC if they change Justin Fields position to tight end 488 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:11,920 that can really work out well. Wait, wait, wait, Corrine, 489 00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:14,440 you're not like I, I'm sure you've seen the data like in 490 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,040 Leonia's article, like the biggest data edge. 491 00:25:17,040 --> 00:25:19,800 It's not even close. Go to the fantasy play, go to 492 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:24,320 the basketball playoffs with 18 or 20 healthy active players, 493 00:25:24,480 --> 00:25:26,160 period. If you're taking a zero from 494 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:29,720 Justin Fields, your EV is slashed by like 30% or more 495 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,600 versus having an active player regardless of the position. 496 00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,600 So I'm just like so petrified of walking to the famous playoffs 497 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,480 with a stone zero on my team. I want to get there with as many 498 00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:42,040 as I can. I mean, it's really drastic, 18 499 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,640 to 17 to 16 to 15 as you go down. 500 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:46,880 No, that's a that's a really good point. 501 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,040 I haven't been hammering fields to this point. 502 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,600 I'm at 4%. I've been taking a ton of Drake 503 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,600 May and it's a similar type of play, but I'm like Drake May 504 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,120 starting by the fancy Cass like that. 505 00:25:56,120 --> 00:25:59,880 He is just a lock. So I'm not getting that zero 506 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:02,040 fields. I've been like fighting that 507 00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:03,480 same thing. I don't want to take a zero 508 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,600 here. Honestly, some of the like he 509 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:08,120 might start week one stuff. We've been getting nervous about 510 00:26:08,120 --> 00:26:10,000 that because he the he then might get benched. 511 00:26:10,360 --> 00:26:12,720 We can't, we can't handle fields getting benched. 512 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,800 We need him to come in for Russ once he gets benched. 513 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,320 So you know it isn't that's. That's what I said to Jacob. 514 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,840 I said the worst thing for Fields starting in Week 17 would 515 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:25,160 be him starting in Week 1. Yeah, yeah. 516 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:30,000 But it's I, I am definitely like, I know, you know, the 517 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,760 sixth round pick and, and all that it, it, it definitely 518 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:36,480 showed the NFL is not interested in this guy being a starting 519 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,240 quarterback for them. But I, I also maintained that 520 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,360 like there was sort of a threshold that he needed to 521 00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:46,800 clear to have a team make their offseason about getting Justin 522 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,640 Fields as their 2024 starter. And he did not meet that 523 00:26:49,640 --> 00:26:51,760 threshold. And once he didn't meet that 524 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:55,800 threshold, I wasn't like all that concerned with like if it 525 00:26:55,800 --> 00:27:00,000 was a fourth, if it was a 6th, like A-Team didn't want to like 526 00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:03,800 make him the the face of their franchise, a face of their 527 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,720 offseason. And so he was going to have to 528 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:12,040 basically surprise somebody. But I I think he does certain 529 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,520 things really well. He does some other things really 530 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,480 poorly. But to me this was like a really 531 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:21,240 strong setup for him where Russ Russ is washed. 532 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,200 So I I'm I'm struggling with it 'cause like once I do want. 533 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,560 To just go and if they were done with him, this was the nut spot. 534 00:27:28,840 --> 00:27:31,800 Well, exactly. Yeah, it's certainly a good fit. 535 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,800 I mean, Arthur Smith, you know, would be happy to give Justin 536 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:38,880 Fields 15 carries per game. Yes, so. 537 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,120 That's that did not what you just said did not tone down the 538 00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:44,280 fact that I'm drafting him in the 15th round. 539 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:51,200 I thought, you know, like. So yeah, I mean as he rises up, 540 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,080 I think he's OK in like the 15th to be honest. 541 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:57,800 Like there's you are just those are all one dollar players. 542 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:02,200 It's like, oh, Adam Thielen, OK. Yeah, yeah, but if he if he 543 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,800 rises up more from here like I don't, I'm not gonna be like 544 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:06,760 loading up, loading up right now. 545 00:28:07,120 --> 00:28:09,880 I'll probably I'm well, crazy locked into being I'm gonna. 546 00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,640 Have this happen right now where like some of the 18th round 547 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,760 picks you like better than the guys who were just anchored in 548 00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:17,080 the 14th because they've been going there for two months. 549 00:28:17,360 --> 00:28:23,360 Like I, I get to the the Quentin Johnston, Adam Thielen, Roman 550 00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,880 Wilson range and I'm like, I don't want to fucking click any 551 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,360 of these guys. I'm just scrolling. 552 00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:29,160 And why wouldn't I scroll for Justin Fields? 553 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,720 Yeah, this happened to me with Jalen McMillan, where I was 554 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,280 like, I like him better than all these dudes. 555 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,480 All these things are taking him up much higher. 556 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,600 Yeah. I the last thing on Fields, I do 557 00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:43,000 think the build, the build specific nature of him is 558 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,040 important. Personally, I think he's a lot 559 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,640 better than three quarterback builds. 560 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,000 And two, I think Leonie's data again really showed the 561 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,520 importance of having multiple stacked quarterbacks in the 562 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,520 playoffs. And I think with Fields, you're 563 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:57,600 just running a 5050 shot of having that. 564 00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,840 And if you only have one other quarterback in the fantasy 565 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,000 playoffs, I just think that's a little bit dicier. 566 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:07,040 Not a play that I would make Chase Brown here. 567 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:10,600 Speaking of guys that Davis cannot stop reaching above ADP 568 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:15,960 on, he's up to pick one O 7. The biggest riser over the past 569 00:29:15,960 --> 00:29:20,360 week, Davis, are you continue as someone who's been drafting him. 570 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,840 You know who's in the one 20s, maybe even close to 1:30. 571 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,040 You still chasing him here at One O 7? 572 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:29,960 I I posted this in the Deposit Kingdom last night. 573 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,640 I, I, I view it as the Jalen Warren flood wall. 574 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,600 Once he gets to where Jalen Warren is going, that is when 575 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:37,280 the slappies will have gone too far. 576 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:41,600 But he should be going ahead of Zach Moss, kind of that Brian 577 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,160 Robinson, Raheem Mostert range where it's like a split 578 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:46,960 backfield. And we kind of don't know which 579 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,720 one way, you know, who's going to win out, who's going to be 580 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,680 starting in Week 17. But it's pretty clear that the 581 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:56,400 two concerns the Bengals had about him were pass protection 582 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,480 and pass catching, right? Because he it's so funny. 583 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,840 We think of Chase Brown is like the Pollard or whatever, but his 584 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:04,520 college profile is like the opposite. 585 00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:08,560 His college profile is like early down grinder 300 rushes, 586 00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:12,400 like handles all the work. And he worked with Drew 587 00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:14,800 Lieberman, who is a wider super coach who worked with Brandon 588 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,720 Iuke and Jacoby Myers in the offseason. 589 00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:18,640 And he like fixed all that stuff. 590 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,960 And he's their best running back right now. 591 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:24,000 So he's going to get the most fantasy points in that 592 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,760 backfield, I think. Levitan, what are your thoughts 593 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,160 on this roster? Chase Brown. 594 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,000 Yeah, I I think he's like my second or third highest owned 595 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:36,000 running back so far. I'm concerned as he moves up 596 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:39,560 because I actually think that he's not going to play on on 597 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,360 most pass downs. And I think the Bengals could 598 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:45,120 tell themselves a story that Zach Moss is also better at the 599 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,360 goal line. And if Semaj Piran gets cut and 600 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:50,080 I think it's kind of getting, you know, less and less and I'm 601 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,160 trying to factor it in less and less, but there's still some 602 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,360 chance they add someone to this backfield. 603 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:58,760 So it starts getting hairier for me, you know, at one O 7 for 604 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:00,200 sure. We're at 1:15. 605 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:02,360 Overall, we haven't gone too far. 606 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,680 We did move 1% of base carries from Chase to Zach Moss. 607 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:10,080 We talked again today about maybe moving more from Zach Moss 608 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,400 to Chase Brand, but I just, I don't think that he's going to 609 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,560 play the pass downs and I don't think that he's a lock for goal 610 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,080 line work either. And at that point, it's like, 611 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,840 God, that's where we get most of our points. 612 00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,840 But I still want to be in on the guy as like an exciting young 613 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,880 player who can carry a big workload and a good offense. 614 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,920 So I'm happy with what I have right now as he gets towards 615 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:28,680 107. Yeah. 616 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,480 I would probably take him right there with Brian Robinson and 617 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,360 Tony Pollard and Devin Singletary. 618 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:36,600 Yeah, I would. Yeah. 619 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,360 God, this is getting bad. I mean, we've gotten our CLV. 620 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,240 This is going to get real hot. He's going to start going to the 621 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,720 90s soon. I mean, it's going to be, it's 622 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,480 going to get real hot real fast. I've been taking him in the 623 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,160 eighth round in weekly winners just because I want to have him 624 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,840 in weekly winners, yeah. Yeah, I, I was not as I was at 625 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,600 like 10% on him before the rise because I was, I was being a 626 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,000 little too cautious on some of the stuff that you're talking 627 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:04,720 about Adam with like Moss might have the high value stuff and 628 00:32:06,560 --> 00:32:08,800 you know, like we don't like I just been rug pulled on guys 629 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,720 like Chase Brown a bunch. Our our whole life, Corrine, our 630 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,360 whole life, we've been getting rug pulled on guys like this. 631 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,360 It's non-stop and like his comps. 632 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,040 I went back and looked at my write up on him. 633 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:23,280 It's like DeAndre Washington, Eno Benjamin. 634 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,600 It's just like dudes that we're like, this is going to be the 635 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,360 guy and his. Eno Benjamin famously had a 10% 636 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,200 advance rate without recording a statistic because it was only it 637 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,920 was only Slappies who drafted him. 638 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,480 Yeah, Yeah, he was. Yeah, so I was definitely like a 639 00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,720 little cautious still in but but not hammering him. 640 00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:46,040 And the the training camp stuff to me has been pretty bullish 641 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,720 where I'm like, OK, he should flip Moss for sure. 642 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:53,040 And then kind of how much, how high should he rise? 643 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:54,880 So I'm kind of playing catch up a little bit. 644 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:58,920 I've been pretty aggressive in drafting him since I'm up to 13% 645 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,120 now and I don't have any problem kind of just like penciling him 646 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,480 in as my ninth round pick. That's that's fine to me. 647 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:08,480 What I'm worried about is that he actually rises up from there 648 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:10,600 that like as all the running backs. 649 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:13,800 Up from there, that's a bit like, I don't even know if I can 650 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,760 get with that really. OK, Yeah like if he I think like 651 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,760 the 90 to 100 range makes sense like if he starts going ahead of 652 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:26,680 like Raheem most or someone like that, I think that's where I I 653 00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:30,200 stopped drafting him. But yeah, one O 7 seems like a a 654 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,600 fair reaction. He should. 655 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,400 Probably go ahead of Raheem Mostert. 656 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,240 That's what I think. I think should probably go ahead 657 00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:38,480 of Mostert. It's, it's, it's Warren where 658 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:41,240 I'm like. Well, to me it's it's like 659 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,960 Swift. You get to Swift and then it's 660 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,640 like. Yeah. 661 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,920 You probably take Swift. I think that's right. 662 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,720 Yeah, I think, yeah, it's it's definitely been positive news on 663 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:55,240 him. I think you can, yeah, nitpick 664 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,440 exactly where you should go, but it doesn't seem like too much of 665 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:01,560 A rise to me. Another Bengals, Roger here. 666 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:02,960 Wanted to pair them together here. 667 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,440 Are you guys will Moss? Can I talk Moss or like sure, 668 00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:08,760 what's the play on? I'm not really scooping Moss at. 669 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:10,320 All right. No, I am, I am scooping. 670 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,159 I've got some of them on. I got some teams now with both 671 00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:17,360 of them where you you take Chase Brown and pick 96 or whatever 672 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:19,320 and then you come back around and Moss is still there. 673 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,120 I I think that's, that's like a good handcuck. 674 00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:26,120 It's like people always, people always ask like, oh, how much do 675 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:27,120 you have in this guy? How much do this guy? 676 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,920 It's like I don't really care how much I have in them. 677 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,400 It's it's at what price people, you know, you have people at and 678 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,760 so I don't have very much Zach Moss right now. 679 00:34:34,760 --> 00:34:37,639 We have him 104 overall. His ADP is 98. 680 00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,000 I and we're going to stick around this 104 range. 681 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,320 That's Zach Moss. I guarantee I'm going to start 682 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,920 getting him now. Like he's going to start going, 683 00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:45,440 you know, one 10115 and I'm going to start getting him there 684 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,679 for sure. That's definitely going to 685 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:53,120 happen. Andre Yossi Vash is the other 686 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,920 Bengals riser. I've been getting steady camp 687 00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:59,320 hype throughout the offseason. Levitan, I think I've seen you 688 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:03,120 tweet out him a couple times over the past week. 689 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,240 Is he a guy that you're chasing up from the 18th round to the 690 00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,240 17th or 16th? Or do you think it's getting a 691 00:35:08,240 --> 00:35:11,920 little too pricey AT2O3? Yeah, so I'm not really a 692 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,000 dynasty player, but this guy's been on my radar for the dynasty 693 00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:18,480 Bros only because I I was so sure that T Higgins is going to 694 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,320 be gone after this year and your Sebastian just seemed like the 695 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,720 exact kind of fit behind him. Obviously has to come out and 696 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,480 play well. I don't know, man. 697 00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:31,000 I think I played him in DFS one time last week at like 3 Ki mean 698 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:38,120 it was it was a wild ride yes. I don't want to say that he's 699 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:40,720 going to completely ice Jermaine Burton. 700 00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:43,200 I think he'll start the season ahead of Jermaine Burton. 701 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:45,800 How that goes from there would. Be really bad for me if he 702 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,000 totally iced him. I mean, I don't think he's going 703 00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:50,320 to total totally ice him. I know Yoshi Sebastian is 704 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,720 playing the slot for the first time in his entire life. 705 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:55,480 Like literally his entire life. I'd like to see Jamar Chase in 706 00:35:55,480 --> 00:35:57,080 the. He's also kind of like brand new 707 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,160 to playing football. He played junior varsity 708 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,760 football at Princeton. Yeah, so I, I was taking tons. 709 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,840 I have like 20 in the 20th. Yeah, he was a he was a real 710 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,600 player for Princeton, wasn't? He look it up. 711 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:08,680 Yeah, look it up. He was a. 712 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,560 Senior year, he was. Yes, but his first two years he 713 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,400 was literally play. I mean, imagine what junior 714 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:16,040 varsity, Oh yeah, Princeton is like. 715 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:18,960 Yeah. So I I had some buddies at 716 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,040 Princeton that were on the the JV football team. 717 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:23,320 PFF has stats for him. Do they? 718 00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:26,080 Do they chart junior varsity at Princeton? 719 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,240 I I am positive that this is true and that I'm not making it 720 00:36:29,240 --> 00:36:34,320 up 100%. Anyways, I'll get to I asked 721 00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:37,080 Crane to to dig into his prospect profile a little bit, 722 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,760 so I'll kick it to him in a SEC. But I did just want to like go 723 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,920 over his very limited routes last year. 724 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:46,440 I would not put a ton of stock into this, but he did run 152 725 00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,440 routes. That's not nothing. 726 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,600 It is worth noting last year that the team preferred Trenton 727 00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:55,000 Irwin over him as sort of the rotational wide receiver for 728 00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:58,960 when other guys are banged up and Yoshi Voss, like he was fine 729 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,000 for being that, you know, deep of a day. 730 00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:04,800 Three rookie earned targets is at a 16% rate like that. 731 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,000 That seems solid to me. The yards for our run, Again, I 732 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:10,080 would not put that much stock into that in 150 routes. 733 00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:13,560 But yeah, just wanted to show how he performed last year 734 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,360 compared to the other Bengals wide receivers. 735 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,880 And yeah, TT Higgins agent sent me a lot of money to not have 736 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:27,640 him on this chart. Crane, any notes on his prospect 737 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:28,760 profile? I don't know if you had a chance 738 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:30,400 to look into it. Yeah. 739 00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:32,800 I mean, it was actually better than I thought it would be 740 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:34,360 because he was very inefficient last year. 741 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:41,280 And I've been kind of like, but he was, he had a 20 or no, a 34% 742 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:45,280 yardage share in his final season at Princeton, 44% 743 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:48,280 touchdown share. So one of these guys, he was, I 744 00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:52,400 think he was a fifth year senior by that point, but he was very 745 00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:55,000 productive and also pretty efficient. 746 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,920 He had yards per hour run of 2.71. 747 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,440 So yeah, I mean, it definitely intriguing. 748 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:04,960 And he's athletic, 63212 to 44340. 749 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:10,720 He's a he's a heptathlete. He is a a Ivy League champion 750 00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,840 heptathlete. That was his primary sport at 751 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,040 Princeton. Yeah, we actually almost, this 752 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:19,760 is a real inside baseball. We were close to getting him on 753 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,640 ADP chasing last year and the last second he he bailed out. 754 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:28,000 So I still have invites. Invites still open. 755 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:29,680 Yoshi Vash. And so you're listening, 756 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:31,640 Levitan. Did you have another point to 757 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,200 get in on on him? Wait, say that again. 758 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,080 You were going to have Andre Yoshi Vas on ship chasing? 759 00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,360 Is that what you said? Yeah, I was doing this for the 760 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:44,240 4th hour of the show, Yeah. He was going to draft the 761 00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:45,720 little. Under what? 762 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,960 Under what pretense? Like he's going to come on and, 763 00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:52,400 and, and like draft A-Team or. We were we were hip to him 764 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:54,680 because he was like a really interesting prospect. 765 00:38:54,720 --> 00:38:56,680 Right. And yeah, you know that you 766 00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:57,960 just. And you just cold and you just 767 00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:00,160 cold DM them was like, hey, do you want to come on this 4 hour 768 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,240 version? I'm I'm cold, yeah. 769 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,720 What are your? Thoughts on virgins? 770 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:09,280 I it, it worked. I called DM's Lauby and it 771 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,400 worked and I called DM's Janice and it worked. 772 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,480 So these guys, these guys who are like kind of marginal NFL 773 00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,000 players, they fucking think fantasy players caring about 774 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:20,480 them is so funny. Like they think it is hilarious 775 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,200 that people are like. This is before he, yeah, this is 776 00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:25,120 before he got drafted to he he he was really nice. 777 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,960 One idea, I know about it, but yeah, ultimately said now. 778 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,200 So this is what it is. I don't have, I don't have 779 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:34,280 anything more on your ship us beyond like I was taking him a 780 00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,080 ton in round 20 and and you know, I've seen him going like 781 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:40,960 round 16 and 17 now it's getting harder. 782 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:45,600 There I I think that the move now is to slurp the Dipperino on 783 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:48,200 Jermaine Burton, like round 16. Jermaine Burton. 784 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,480 That's pretty. I mean like maybe he sucks, but 785 00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,600 round three wide receiver on like the 4th best passing 786 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:56,640 offense in the Bengals. Like he's going after Jalen 787 00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,600 McMillan and some of my stuff now that I see. 788 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,360 And a deep threat like he's he's, you know, the type of guy 789 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,720 who gets out there a little bit at the end of the year and it 790 00:40:04,720 --> 00:40:07,800 could make a difference. So yeah, I I like scooping the 791 00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:11,960 dip on Burton for sure. Let's talk here about another 792 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,360 rookie wide receiver, I guess, sorry Yoshi Boss's second year, 793 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,240 but another young wide receiver that is making a lot of splash 794 00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:20,480 plays at camp. Jalen McMillan is up a full 795 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,800 round to pick 176 off. Just steady, steady camp hype. 796 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:30,080 Todd Bowles, I had a snippet of the clip in here, but he was 797 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:34,320 consistently topping talking up Jalen McMillan start with the 798 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,120 Levitan. Have you guys adjusted the ranks 799 00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,680 at all on McMillan based on the steady camp buzz? 800 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,600 I mean, this is probably like in terms of late round guys, we 801 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,760 were like 40 spots ahead on this guy for like 2 months straight. 802 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:47,600 And I was like, man, the market's not moving towards us. 803 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:48,880 Like this is going to be a problem. 804 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,520 And now it's finally getting here on all this camp stuff. 805 00:40:51,720 --> 00:40:55,680 We're still ahead of Market 171. The ETR ranks woke up angry. 806 00:40:55,800 --> 00:41:01,000 And and and got to 17 and he's up to 177 in ADP now. 807 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,920 Yeah, it just seems like a classic bet you want to make in 808 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,920 basketball, like a talent rookie with a clear path. 809 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:13,400 Mike Evans is old ish, and this regime came in and drafted Jill 810 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:15,520 McMillan and have been talking him up. 811 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,800 So yeah, I mean, just seems like a classic. close your eyes, no 812 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,000 brainer. There is some paths to a real 813 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,400 big time role right away, but I don't think you're going to get 814 00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,760 like zeros from Jalen McMillan at any point this year. 815 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,880 I do think he wins the wide receiver three role pretty 816 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:33,680 cleanly in this offense. Yeah, Crane go to you on 817 00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,200 McMillan. No, I mean I completely agree 818 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,000 that he's a clear target. I'm actually hoping that in some 819 00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:44,600 of the pre season stuff it won't be super clear right away that 820 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:49,640 he has taken the job and it will kind of cool off his. 821 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:51,840 Price Well, be careful what you wish, be careful what you wish 822 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,800 for, because you might get scared off if he's playing in 823 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:56,760 the third. You okay? 824 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:58,520 I won't 'cause he's done enough to where I'm. 825 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:03,200 Like me then, Pat? The dudes taking the job, he's 826 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,360 taking the job from Trey Palmer over the the course of the year 827 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:07,760 and probably over the course of the preseason. 828 00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,360 But I wouldn't mind a little week. 829 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,160 One that that is the one thing, I don't know if you guys have 830 00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,040 had this experience, but I've kind of loved every wide 831 00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,840 receiver 3 the Buccaneers have ever had other than Russell 832 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,120 Gage. Like, I've been infatuated with 833 00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:26,280 Trey Palmer and Tyler Johnson and Scotty Miller and there was 834 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:27,400 another guy. Justin Watt. 835 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,680 Justin Watson. Justin Watson. 836 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,520 Justin Watson was a really good one. 837 00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,000 Yeah. So it's like I've done this so. 838 00:42:33,080 --> 00:42:34,640 And I know that this is like the. 839 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,880 It's like the Rashi Rice thing all over again where it's like 840 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,480 just because the wider secret 3 for the Buccaneers has been this 841 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,680 archetype. Like good prospect, shitty NFL 842 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:46,200 fantasy player. I mean, I've got like 19% Jalen 843 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:47,920 McMillan. Scotty Miller and Justin Watson 844 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:48,720 are still in the league, you know. 845 00:42:49,240 --> 00:42:52,560 Yeah, I, I, there's something, I mean, the concern that I'm 846 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:58,920 starting to have here is how much can Baker make like one of 847 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,720 the other two guys has to crater like Evans. 848 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,960 Evans or Godwin as the creator for for Macmillan to really 849 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,160 matter. Yeah. 850 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,400 And that that's actually related to the question I was going to 851 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,240 ask you guys. Who do you feel has a cleaner 852 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:15,320 who who has won or will win the wide receiver three job cleaner 853 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:19,040 Jalen Tolbert, Cowboys wide receiver or Jalen McMillan, 854 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:22,160 Bucks wide receiver three. Now McMillan to me is clearly 855 00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,840 like better player than Jalen Tolbert. 856 00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,000 There's no doubt about that. But when you start thinking 857 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:27,800 about, I don't think Brandon Cokes is a big time target 858 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,480 earner. I don't know if Jake Ferguson's 859 00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,920 going to be a big time target earner throughout his career. 860 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:34,880 And then you start getting a cleaner path for Jalen Tolbert, 861 00:43:34,880 --> 00:43:38,480 who goes 23 picks later. I, I don't like Jalen Tolbert as 862 00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,760 a player that much, But just in terms of path opportunity, I 863 00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:44,080 don't know that that feels like a gap that's too wide to me 864 00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,520 between. I've really struggled with 865 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:48,000 Tolbert though, because I I don't think Tolbert's good and I 866 00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:52,560 think like what it means to be the wide receiver. 3IN Dallas 867 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,760 could mean like 6065% rap participation. 868 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,200 Like they could, they could rotate in Jalen Brooks or 869 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:01,160 whoever else like. Florinoy. 870 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:05,520 Florinoy There's situations in the NFL where we learn names and 871 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,240 Jalen Tolbert being the wide receiver three is is one where 872 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:09,480 we learn some names. Right. 873 00:44:09,720 --> 00:44:11,920 That's been looking good. That's why. 874 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,880 That's why Billy Johnson is the guy who's been popping up. 875 00:44:15,240 --> 00:44:17,480 Right, that's why I asked who you think is cleaner. 876 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,400 Wide receiver 3 McMillan. Or I think McMillan actually, 877 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,800 because I think you can just consolidate a role where he's. 878 00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,560 Yeah, what what you win when you win is much bigger with McMillan 879 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,360 than it is because, because he could also. 880 00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,480 I mean, Evans is 30. Godwin is is an old, what's 881 00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:36,080 Godwin's like an old 28. He's like, he's like 28, but he 882 00:44:36,080 --> 00:44:40,800 feels like he's 24 or 34. So like there's crater. 883 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:43,640 There's definitely crater risk there with with both those guys 884 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:44,880 I think. For sure. 885 00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,000 Godwin is 20. I think he turned 29 in 886 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,480 February, so he was factually an old 28. 887 00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:51,800 Yeah, he's, he's an old 28. Yeah. 888 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,040 Last thing I'll add on Macmillan is I think that these wide 889 00:44:54,040 --> 00:44:56,000 receivers that play in really. Jalen Darden. 890 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,680 Jalen Darden, Another one. Yeah, I was like, Jalen Darden 891 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,040 could play. I forgot about that guy, but 892 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:05,080 yeah, just to say he obviously he played with Roma Dunze and 893 00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,240 Jalen Polk at University of Washington. 894 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:11,840 I just think sometimes those guys go a little bit later in 895 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:13,760 the draft, the guys who play in a really crowded wide receiver 896 00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:15,560 route. He was also banged up this past 897 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:16,520 year. Yeah. 898 00:45:16,720 --> 00:45:19,840 And yeah, led the team in touchdowns over Alma Doonese the 899 00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,760 year before. So I just think there's some 900 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,080 some untapped upside in his profile that yeah, man Jalen, 901 00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,080 Jalen Tolbert, we've just seen it for two years. 902 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,040 It's it's been pretty ugly with not great competition ahead of 903 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,080 him either year, honestly. So, Michael? 904 00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,760 Gallup just retired and he he held that job over. 905 00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:45,840 Let's get into fallers here. DeAndre Hopkins, obviously the 906 00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,800 biggest faller of the past week. He's down 20% ADP, a full round. 907 00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:55,560 Adam. Is that enough of a fall knowing 908 00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:58,960 that he's an older player who is now out four to six weeks? 909 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:02,240 I think the the wording is that they're hopeful he's back week 910 00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:05,200 one, but it's not guaranteed. What are your thoughts? 911 00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:08,960 Yeah, I think it goes back to what you thought pre injured 912 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:10,760 DeAndre Hopkins. We actually thought that Hopkins 913 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:12,560 was a better pick than Calvin Ridley. 914 00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,000 And and so we just got completely punched in the cock 915 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,320 on this because now, because now I have like no Ridley and I have 916 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,240 like 15% Hopkins and now I'm not be able to get any Ridley 917 00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:25,040 because now his ADP is up in like, you know, in the 50s or 918 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,320 something like that. I'm not taking Calvin Ridley 919 00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,040 there. So yeah, this is bad in terms of 920 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,480 what to do now for me personally concerned, I already have 15%. 921 00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,800 I'll probably back off. We got down to 95th on underdog 922 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,520 in the ranks on there. It's just four to six weeks is 923 00:46:42,720 --> 00:46:46,360 sounds like I'm somewhat serious injury for a 32 year old guy. 924 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:50,400 I am very confident that Tennessee is going to be one of 925 00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,000 the more pass happy teams this season in neutral situations. 926 00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,120 I am not confident all that Will Levis can execute that kind of 927 00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,320 game plan and be successful doing it. 928 00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:01,680 So it's a bit of a parlay now on Hopkins. 929 00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:04,840 You need him to still be the guy, still be good at 32. 930 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,960 You need his need to be right and you need Will Levis to be 931 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,200 decent. So I think for me, Hopkins in 932 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:13,480 the 90s would probably be where I would start taking him again. 933 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:18,200 Yeah, I, I, I, I'm actually am taking some Ridley now. 934 00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:19,960 I don't have any Ridley. Like you. 935 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,040 We were completely in agreement. I just like I can't I I don't 936 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,000 understand the Ridley price. I don't understand the Hopkins 937 00:47:27,000 --> 00:47:29,040 price. Hopkins felt like such a smash 938 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,640 to me. He had, you know, a good season 939 00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,120 last year with the same quarterback. 940 00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,720 And so I was, I was pretty excited to be taking him in the 941 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:41,240 sixth round. Now I'm I'm cooling off a lot. 942 00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:44,320 Like I just think in this situation, it's like, well, it 943 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,760 went against me. I'm not going to double down 944 00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:48,960 with like on the bet is different now. 945 00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,800 So doubling down, it just doesn't make sense. 946 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,960 And however, I, I am now willing to say, OK, well, Ridley, part 947 00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:00,760 of the reason I was not that into him is that I, Hopkins is 948 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:02,160 better. Hopkins going to operate as the 949 00:48:02,160 --> 00:48:04,640 one. So if, if Hopkins is falling off 950 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,320 a bit or if he misses games early on potentially or if he's 951 00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:11,280 never right all season, then Ridley is a materially better 952 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:12,520 bet. So I'm willing to take him at 953 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,920 kind of the end of the fifth round and get at least some 954 00:48:14,920 --> 00:48:17,720 exposure. I thought on this news that he 955 00:48:17,720 --> 00:48:21,000 was going to rise up to like the third or fourth round because 956 00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:22,960 I've never understood the Calvin Ridley price. 957 00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,000 So the fact that he. Has a bunch at all. 958 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:29,360 Yeah, it's been, I've been like taking that as you know, OK. 959 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,160 Like if you guys are going to let me have them at the old 960 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:34,920 price, then I think I I'm like duty bound to get at least some. 961 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:38,040 Yeah, yeah. I think that makes sense. 962 00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,120 And yeah, we talked about Ridley in. 963 00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,960 Is it? Is it too big brain to think 964 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,480 that Ridley is a worse pick if Hopkins is banged up? 965 00:48:45,480 --> 00:48:49,400 Because the IT just might just be like us horrible slog to 966 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,080 watch the Tennessee Titans play football I. 967 00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:53,840 Mean I I always assumed it was going to. 968 00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:55,000 Be a horrible. I moved. 969 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:58,120 I no, I was more. I was more with Levitan. 970 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:03,880 I'm like they're going to give Levis a chance to be 7% pass 971 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:05,440 rate over expectation and just see what they. 972 00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:08,200 Still will, I think. Yeah, the good news is the wide 973 00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:09,720 receiver depth. Like say what you want about 974 00:49:09,800 --> 00:49:12,320 trailing Burks, having him as a wide receiver for that's like 975 00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:13,920 decent. Yeah, that's pretty good, right? 976 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:16,680 Pretty good, yeah. Trailer Burks is back on the 977 00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:20,600 menu, boys. Back on the menu, I honestly, I 978 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,040 don't know if it's a bit or not, but I honestly think he's not 979 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,600 the worst. He's not a bit. 980 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,160 I I took, I've taken him a couple times. 981 00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:29,600 Oh, I take yeah, the bit trailing backdoors. 982 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,000 Since his injury, I've done Levis trailing backdoors, yeah. 983 00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,200 Yeah, you can't give up on trailing bricks until you see 984 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,040 him in the power slot. Roll everyone. 985 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:37,080 Everybody knows. Ball. 986 00:49:37,240 --> 00:49:41,440 Knows that. Let's talk Kendra Miller here. 987 00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:43,040 I know we just have Levitan for 10 more minutes. 988 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:44,960 So trying to go at the market Monday. 989 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:49,960 One minute per player pace, he's down 24 spots. 990 00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,600 He's getting close to like eighteenth round from where he 991 00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:55,880 started. I think around pick 140 ish. 992 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:59,600 Levitan, are you holding any hope out? 993 00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:04,200 I know you guys talk you and Silva talk to Underhill over 994 00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:06,760 with the Saints a decent bit. Are you holding out any hope 995 00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:08,880 that Kendrick and can turn the story around? 996 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:12,760 If you talk to Underhill the the answer. 997 00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,560 Yeah, I was going to say how many Underhill, What's Underhill 998 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,960 say? He would say no, but he says no 999 00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,560 on every Saints player. He just, he just hates. 1000 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:21,720 Every real player. On on the. 1001 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,000 Saints, he thinks they. All stuck. 1002 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:26,440 Even like Rashid Shahid, he's like, yeah, that. 1003 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,520 Guy, yeah, he has like no excitement whatsoever. 1004 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:35,760 What about Taysom though? I don't know, man, this is this 1005 00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:39,320 is really bad on Kendrick. I do think that like Dennis 1006 00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,880 Allen, unlike a lot of NFL coaches who just only talk 1007 00:50:41,880 --> 00:50:44,480 positively, like he goes out of his way to talk negatively about 1008 00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:47,400 players in the media. And maybe like coaches sometimes 1009 00:50:47,400 --> 00:50:49,560 do that about guys they like. They just want them to work 1010 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:51,800 harder, you know, So I didn't take the Dennis Allen quote like 1011 00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:53,920 he's got to, you know, make the team or what? 1012 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,320 I didn't take that as that bad. He's trying to push a guy that 1013 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,360 he knows his talented maybe hasn't had the best work ethic 1014 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,840 or whatever. The bigger concern for me is the 1015 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,440 Saints believe they need Alvin Kamara to make the offense work. 1016 00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:10,560 And coaches love putting the ball in the fucking belly of my 1017 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,400 close personal friend Jamal Williams. 1018 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:14,520 Like just love it. You know, like they cannot stop 1019 00:51:14,720 --> 00:51:16,040 giving the ball to Jamal Williams. 1020 00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:20,320 So with bottom 5 offensive line now, now that Ryan Ramchek 1021 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:27,040 retired, it doesn't look great. But at pick 185, running back of 1022 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,240 Kendra Miller's talent, at least I don't know what you guys 1023 00:51:29,240 --> 00:51:31,920 thought of him as a prospect. I know a bunch of prospect Bros 1024 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:37,080 thought he was pretty talented. Pick 185, close my eyes and take 1025 00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:38,480 a shot. I think that's totally fine. 1026 00:51:38,480 --> 00:51:43,160 We're at 191 on Kendra Miller and like, I need running back at 1027 00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,880 this point. So often it's like, I haven't 1028 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:47,680 done it. But just talking through it, I'm 1029 00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,480 kind of like, man, would not be the craziest thing in the world 1030 00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:53,240 for Kendra's talent to eventually shine through in this 1031 00:51:53,240 --> 00:51:54,960 backfield. And you're paying like nothing 1032 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,160 at this point. You are, but I mean, the the 1033 00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:00,760 thing about the Dennis Allen quote that concerned me was that 1034 00:52:01,320 --> 00:52:04,280 he he had a hamstring injury and it's just like, dude, like what 1035 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,400 did you think? He just like decided that like 1036 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:08,600 he didn't choose to have a hamstring injury And you're 1037 00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,440 talking about how he needs to like get right and start, you 1038 00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:13,200 know, stop getting hurt basically. 1039 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,120 So I'm like you, you hate this guy. 1040 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,800 It's just like a very unfair thing to do. 1041 00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:21,480 So it just had me pretty nervous about like where his because the 1042 00:52:21,480 --> 00:52:27,320 whole Kendre play is that he forces the issue with Camara, 1043 00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,560 who's very over the hill as a runner. 1044 00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:33,400 He still does all the receiving stuff decent but it's he's been 1045 00:52:33,400 --> 00:52:35,960 in a a long decline now as as a runner. 1046 00:52:36,720 --> 00:52:40,200 But like we need the team to believe in Kendra or be like 1047 00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:42,680 open minded about what Kendra can do out there for that to 1048 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:44,280 happen. The most likely scenario is that 1049 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:47,080 Kamara just like eats a shit load of snaps this year and and 1050 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:49,360 doesn't do much with them. What about this scenario? 1051 00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:52,200 The Saints suck. Alvin Kamara is almost certainly 1052 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:54,560 off the team next year. Let's see Kendra Miller down the 1053 00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:57,520 stretch and see what he has. I love that scenario, but I'm 1054 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:00,560 is, are we living in a world where they're even interested in 1055 00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,440 that? Like that's, that's where I'm, 1056 00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,680 I'm starting to get concerned. I'm very confident Khmer won't 1057 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,720 be on the team next year like that. 1058 00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:08,880 That's one thing I agree is, is for sure. 1059 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,280 So yeah, I mean, what do you think about, what do you think 1060 00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:12,800 about like Kendry versus Braylon Allen? 1061 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:16,440 Because I I take Braylon Allen. Braylon Braylon to. 1062 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,800 Me it's getting like you know who like OK don't hurt your 1063 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,680 hamstring and you might get cut versus this guy kind of reminds 1064 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:26,600 me of Danny Woodhead. I I prefer, I prefer the 1065 00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,800 Woodhead comps like it's honestly no, that's where I'm 1066 00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,160 getting to man. Oh, I love it, Karain. 1067 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,000 You just made my day, dude. Karain. 1068 00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,760 Karain saying that he takes Dylan loudly over Kendra Miller. 1069 00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,760 No Shipley. Didn't Shipley get the Woodhead 1070 00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,000 comp? No and lobby also? 1071 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,080 And lobby. Oh they bought 2 Woodhead comps? 1072 00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:49,440 Oh my God, I wonder what? They all have in common, yeah. 1073 00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:57,440 Yeah, I mean trade like Tyrone Tracy, Dylan Lobby is like where 1074 00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,080 I'm like, OK, like I don't know if these guys are anything. 1075 00:54:00,080 --> 00:54:02,400 Maybe I'll just take Kendra Miller, but the dudes who are 1076 00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,800 getting any like what about the Eric Prince Davis who taking him 1077 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:08,640 over Kendra? Bro, I mean I feel legit bad for 1078 00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,760 Claude Ebert Solaire. I probably said some very mean 1079 00:54:10,760 --> 00:54:12,640 things about Claude Ebert Solaire on the Internet. 1080 00:54:13,280 --> 00:54:18,440 He's cost me a lot of money interpersonally, but it feels 1081 00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,920 like this is just like their plan now, Like their plan is 1082 00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:24,880 Prince has shown us enough. He's the running back to Clyde 1083 00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:29,760 is now the the The thing is, is that the role that Clyde will 1084 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:34,480 have will be the third. Like he's he's the old head, you 1085 00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,920 know, he's Latavius Murray now. He's 27 years old. 1086 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,800 He's on his second contract making no money. 1087 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,160 Like he's there to just not make mistakes. 1088 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,320 Like if someone needs to pass block, if someone needs to go, 1089 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:48,480 like if Pacheco can't do it. But Prince is probably like, 1090 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,680 yeah, like I, I'm, I'm taking Prince a lot now. 1091 00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:56,960 Like I, I am fully off taking Clyde's and I'm taking Prince 1092 00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:58,680 ahead. I would take Prince over Kendra. 1093 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:02,520 The only thing I would say on that is from what I understand, 1094 00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:07,640 Jerick McKinnon is working out, staying in shape and could be 1095 00:55:07,640 --> 00:55:10,440 ready if the chief calling. That that that honestly feels 1096 00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,600 like the most likely outcome as we're just back to Jerick 1097 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:15,680 McKinnon the after debating generic prints for CEH. 1098 00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:19,240 It's like he but like remember the whole they're saving 1099 00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:21,840 McKinnon for the playoffs thing? It's like and then they didn't 1100 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:24,720 even they saved him and then he played like 4 snaps and then he 1101 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,960 had to have core muscle surgery. Like it's, it's like you can't, 1102 00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:30,800 can't be relying on a 32 year old running back, dude. 1103 00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:34,480 I also feel like we called his career dead like six years ago 1104 00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:35,840 and he's still around so well, that's. 1105 00:55:35,840 --> 00:55:37,960 Because Shanahan said he had dead legs. 1106 00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,240 I I didn't say it. Shanahan said it. 1107 00:55:42,240 --> 00:55:45,880 Yes, that's constant. That was in 2020 that he had 1108 00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,320 dead legs 2020. What an insane career Jerick 1109 00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,440 McKinnon has had. It really is. 1110 00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:53,960 Yeah, he. Was a college quarterback? 1111 00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:55,960 Yeah. No one knows. 1112 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,400 Last thing I'll say on Kendre is just to close the book there and 1113 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:00,960 then we'll get get to one more player. 1114 00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:04,120 I think once he's priced in this range, like you can nitpick 1115 00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,760 Braylon Allen, generic Prince over him at a certain point it 1116 00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,440 it kinda doesn't matter. I still think he's draftable 1117 00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:13,840 like 17th, 18th round for sure. But there there are some guys 1118 00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:16,400 that still go after him, but. Braylon Allen's like Locked In 1119 00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:19,280 is the number 2 and has been. Yeah, no, I I definitely prefer 1120 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:22,880 Braylon to him, but once you get to the generic Prince and CEH, 1121 00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:25,600 it's like, I don't know. The thing is generic Prince and 1122 00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,560 Ch also don't have the out that Kendre has of just like season's 1123 00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,600 over for the Saints. Let's see what we have in him 1124 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:33,400 even though we don't really like him like. 1125 00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:37,000 But isn't it still? It's like you crawl through a 1126 00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:41,440 river of shit to get to week 17, and then you have Kendra Miller 1127 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:42,880 behind the Saints offensive line. 1128 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,360 Like, I'm just like, I, I'm just in more shit. 1129 00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:48,240 This is, this is a disaster. I I really. 1130 00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,600 Isn't that the Jonathan? Isn't that the Jonathan Brooks 1131 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:51,640 argument? Ducks. 1132 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:52,640 OK, I didn't. I didn't. 1133 00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:54,320 I didn't mean. I didn't mean. 1134 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:55,680 I didn't mean. We don't have time. 1135 00:56:55,720 --> 00:56:57,320 We don't have time for that right now. 1136 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:04,160 Devonta Adams is someone I wanted to talk about and love. 1137 00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,040 10 Feel free. You have like 5 minutes for this 1138 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:08,280 or you? Yeah, for sure, for sure. 1139 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:12,000 OK, he's the only guy I want to talk about, I think a very under 1140 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:14,880 discussed player in fantasy this year, even though he goes in the 1141 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,080 second round of every draft. I just wanted to do the same 1142 00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,480 analysis with him that I did with Cooper Cup just to show 1143 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,560 that I think there's a couple things. 1144 00:57:23,800 --> 00:57:25,680 I think a lot of people kind of compare what happened to him 1145 00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:29,080 last year and Cup last year, I think it was was a little bit 1146 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,320 different. You don't really see a drop off 1147 00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:35,280 at all in targets per outrun for Devante like you did with Cup. 1148 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,440 Also looking at some of the peripheral like open score and 1149 00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:41,680 Harmon's charting, they're also there. 1150 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:45,320 There's like a tiny drop off, but he's still 95th percentile 1151 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:46,840 and Harmon's success rate over expected. 1152 00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,760 Again, Cup was in like the 40th percentile there. 1153 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:54,000 Open score still has him a solidly above 75 percentile 1154 00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,760 player. So again, I know he's he's more 1155 00:57:56,760 --> 00:58:00,080 expensive than Cop, so that's somewhat priced in, but I do 1156 00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:05,200 think a drop off last year, just a slightly less significant of 1157 00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,880 one when you look at the underlying stats. 1158 00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:10,840 Even so he's down to spots. I think there's a chance where 1159 00:58:10,960 --> 00:58:15,120 Cop actually flips in. Curious what you think Levitan 1160 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,360 on on Devante this year? He's kind of a tricky player 1161 00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:19,840 with the the team situation in Las Vegas. 1162 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,040 So the first thing I'd say every time I'm considering Devante, I 1163 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,560 start thinking about the best ball playoffs. 1164 00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,200 The biggest delta between implied team total from the 1165 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:30,120 regular season and implied team told during the fantasy playoffs 1166 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,920 belongs to the Raiders. In the fantasy playoffs they get 1167 00:58:33,080 --> 00:58:35,280 Atlanta, Jacksonville, New Orleans. 1168 00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:39,000 So 3 Dome slash warm weather games against three defenses 1169 00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:41,240 that project to be. Let's go. 1170 00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:47,880 The the the bad thing, of course is quarterback play and age. 1171 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:53,760 It's just hard on full PPR for me to turn down 160 targets, 160 1172 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:57,760 targets on half PPRI. Totally get passing on him. 1173 00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:01,160 We have him ranked one spot ahead of Nico Collins. 1174 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,880 I actually take Nico over Devante. 1175 00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:07,800 We haven't two spots ahead of Debo Samuel on all this IU news. 1176 00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:11,280 I've been taking Debo ahead of Devante Adams, also on 1177 00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,360 Underdogs. So yeah, I don't hate Devante 1178 00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,240 Adams. I feel like a lot of people are 1179 00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:19,240 just done with him based on the quarterback situation. 1180 00:59:19,360 --> 00:59:23,000 There are very few guys in the NFL that can actually get 3040% 1181 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:25,800 of the targets in the game. Devante Adams can do that and 1182 00:59:25,800 --> 00:59:29,040 break slates doing that, and he has such an awesome playoff 1183 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,920 schedule. So yeah, I'm probably a little 1184 00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:32,160 bit lower on Devante than our rank. 1185 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,720 Again, we're at 18 on underdog. We have Nico 19, Devo 20. 1186 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,800 I'd probably go both those guys over Devante personally, but you 1187 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,880 know, it's really cutting thin there for sure. 1188 00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:47,120 Yeah, so, so for me, the thing I have trouble with is even though 1189 00:59:47,120 --> 00:59:50,480 like I think in a vacuum, if I'm just trying, if if the game was 1190 00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:54,400 get the most fantasy points from the wide receiver you pick, I 1191 00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:59,480 think I would like Devante over Chris Olave over Devo over Jalen 1192 00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:01,920 Waddle even potentially. But that's not the game, right. 1193 01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:05,440 Like when you take Devante Adams, you have no idea who is 1194 01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:07,720 quarterbacks gonna be, whereas all those other guys. 1195 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,880 The the quarterback stack, I really like like the Derek Carr 1196 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,880 with Olave, the 2O with Waddle, etcetera. 1197 01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:17,400 And I know if Waddle has a big spike week in the playoffs, he's 1198 01:00:17,400 --> 01:00:20,880 likely carrying my quarterback there as well. 1199 01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:24,760 Whereas if Adams has that huge spike week, like I have to get a 1200 01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,040 bunch of other things, right. And that's not to say you can't 1201 01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,800 win with like an uncorrelated Adams. 1202 01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:31,840 Obviously you can, but that's that's like a little bit of a 1203 01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,600 tiebreaker for me in the first two rounds when I know like I 1204 01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:38,120 don't want to waste an 18th round roster spot on like. 1205 01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:41,680 Open open your mind, dude, this is two eyes thinking. 1206 01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:46,080 You need to open your third eye automatically, combinatorically 1207 01:00:46,080 --> 01:00:48,480 knowing who you're one of your quarterbacks is going to be when 1208 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:51,080 you have your first round pick or second round pick is not 1209 01:00:51,080 --> 01:00:53,400 ideal. It boxes you in dude, you got 1210 01:00:53,400 --> 01:00:54,160 it. You need to be. 1211 01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:57,440 You need to be, you need to be painting, you're. 1212 01:00:57,640 --> 01:01:02,440 Boxed in anything. You're only boxed in if you star 1213 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,520 Derek Carr and then walk away from your computer. 1214 01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:11,240 I, I mean, I think I, I believe that Devante Adams is a great 1215 01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,680 pick. I, I am continually picking him 1216 01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,160 here. But what I'm saying is that, for 1217 01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,560 example, the Justin Jefferson Devante Adams start, which many 1218 01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,120 people are saying is one of the greatest starts that you can 1219 01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,040 make in a fantasy football draft, that it's absolutely 1220 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,280 insane that you could have the two best wide receivers in the 1221 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,680 NFL with your first two picks. You might be going, you might be 1222 01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:31,520 panicking, you might be you're, you're, you're sweating, you're 1223 01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:33,400 nervous. Who do I take at quarterback? 1224 01:01:33,400 --> 01:01:37,160 And then you go, I actually could just can take Trey McBride 1225 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:40,800 and Kyler Murray, or I could take Roma Doonese and Caleb 1226 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:43,480 Williams. Or I could take Marvin Mims and 1227 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,520 Bo Nicks, or I could take Roman Wilson and Justin Fields. 1228 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:48,280 It all works out. You don't have to box yourself 1229 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:50,360 in bro. Yeah, I get that. 1230 01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:52,600 It just gives you one less out. I get that. 1231 01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,320 You can still make a correlated lineup work. 1232 01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,400 I'll I'll get Korean's take on Adams. 1233 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,480 I want to give Levitan a chance to get out of here. 1234 01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,880 I know he's got a heart out. Levitan, thanks a lot for 1235 01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,600 joining us. Anything at established run that 1236 01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:05,640 you want to tell the people about? 1237 01:02:06,840 --> 01:02:08,320 Not really, no. You guys come. 1238 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,120 You know what? YouTube. 1239 01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,720 The YouTube streets are absolutely flooded these days. 1240 01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:16,200 You guys are on YouTube, I assume if you're watching this. 1241 01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:21,400 Yeah, we're trying extremely hard to win against the kids on 1242 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,960 YouTube. Support the olds versus the kids 1243 01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:26,200 on YouTube. You need to hire someone who 1244 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,560 will fucking stream for five hours at a time, Adam. 1245 01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:30,320 That's how you can back these children. 1246 01:02:31,960 --> 01:02:34,520 You gotta make those market Mondays two hours, buddy, you 1247 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:35,920 gotta. I'm sorry. 1248 01:02:36,000 --> 01:02:41,640 I'm sorry dude. God, I need more live stuff. 1249 01:02:41,640 --> 01:02:43,200 OK, yeah. Strasser pod. 1250 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,840 Yeah, man, Strasser was on a couple months ago. 1251 01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,560 I saw Harmon's Harmon's going on too this week. 1252 01:02:48,560 --> 01:02:49,680 Is that right? I need to get. 1253 01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:52,280 I need to get Strasser on to tell me what the fuck is going. 1254 01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:58,760 On dude, just zoom out on the chart. 1255 01:02:58,760 --> 01:03:01,160 And also honestly, I, I know it's a bit, but like I was 1256 01:03:01,160 --> 01:03:04,920 actually talking to my friends and I was like, man, best ball 1257 01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,680 might be the best store of value for the next like six months. 1258 01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:10,520 It it legit like? If you think you can make like 1259 01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,480 8% on best ball this year, it might actually be the best store 1260 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:15,600 of value you could find for your money over the next six months, 1261 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:17,880 which I never thought I'd say in a million years, but yeah. 1262 01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,720 Love Tan. It's about the community it's 1263 01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,560 about. The community, that's how 1264 01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:24,920 DraftKings and all these other NFT birds got into trouble. 1265 01:03:24,920 --> 01:03:26,120 Do not say it's about the fucking. 1266 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,400 It is always about the money. Do not say it's about the 1267 01:03:29,400 --> 01:03:30,520 fucking community. Ever. 1268 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,800 All right. Appreciate you guys. 1269 01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:34,000 Great. Great to be here. 1270 01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,000 Good luck. All right. 1271 01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,600 Thanks Adam all. Right, later, guys. 1272 01:03:40,040 --> 01:03:46,120 So I think we're going to get get registered into a big dog 1273 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:50,240 draft crane if you want. I'll get that going, you know. 1274 01:03:50,320 --> 01:03:53,320 I did want to give you your a chance to give your Devante Adam 1275 01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,440 stake if you had anything to add to that conversation. 1276 01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:58,920 Well, not, not a ton. I mean, we have him rated ADP. 1277 01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:05,400 He's he's a player that's like a little I, I, I kind of come down 1278 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:08,120 where you do, where I'm like, I would just give me like any kind 1279 01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:11,920 of quarterback that I can like latch onto like a story, you 1280 01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,320 know, because I don't think it's even going to be consistent. 1281 01:04:15,320 --> 01:04:17,640 I think we're going to probably start with Aidan O'Connell, but 1282 01:04:17,640 --> 01:04:19,120 he might lose the job at some point. 1283 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:22,640 But Minchu has not looked good. And like Minchu was good last 1284 01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,160 year, but he, you know, he's been pretty bad at times. 1285 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:31,240 So this is not, it's just a situation that could really hold 1286 01:04:31,240 --> 01:04:35,640 down Adam's talent, which I am a big believer in. 1287 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:41,680 So, yeah, I I'm not, that's just kind of a bummer of a situation, 1288 01:04:41,680 --> 01:04:44,200 man. Like he, he goes there to play 1289 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,640 with his like, college quarterback best friend and they 1290 01:04:47,640 --> 01:04:52,120 they cut him like, I mean, like, just outrageous. 1291 01:04:52,120 --> 01:04:54,640 Like, it just, it's just the whole thing is such a bummer. 1292 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,960 And then they clearly misplayed the offseason with court, with 1293 01:04:58,960 --> 01:05:01,080 getting a quarterback. I don't think they understood 1294 01:05:01,280 --> 01:05:03,520 they didn't have urgency in getting a quarterback. 1295 01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:05,920 They just blew it. So we're just kind of in this 1296 01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:11,200 half built team that's like in a, you know, they're like, I 1297 01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:14,360 guess we'll start in O'Connell. It's just, it's just such a 1298 01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,920 bummer, man. Yeah, we said that the best 1299 01:05:16,920 --> 01:05:19,040 situation for Justin Fields was the Steelers. 1300 01:05:19,040 --> 01:05:20,920 I actually think you could throw the Raiders in there. 1301 01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,400 The Raiders, too. That that would have been really 1302 01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:27,560 fun because I think, say what you want about Russ, I think 1303 01:05:27,560 --> 01:05:31,520 Minshew and AOC are are worse and Justin Fields would have an 1304 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,840 even better chance of of winning that competition. 1305 01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:37,160 So I well, that's. Kind of what I mean here, I 1306 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:39,760 think so like when I talk about like teams not wanting to make 1307 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:42,440 fields, like if you brought in fields instead of Minshew, I 1308 01:05:42,440 --> 01:05:45,840 think it would have been like harder for them to do what they 1309 01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:47,960 assumed they could just sit tight and do and draft a 1310 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,280 quarterback. You know, like, where the fans 1311 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,680 would assume there's this like fan reset that needed to happen 1312 01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:56,720 with Fields, where like fans were going to be like, wherever 1313 01:05:56,720 --> 01:06:00,000 he goes, he's our starter now. And the NFL was like, no, I'm 1314 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:01,360 not. I'm not interested in that. 1315 01:06:01,840 --> 01:06:05,360 But by sitting out Fields, then you end up potentially in the 1316 01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:07,160 situation that they find themselves in now. 1317 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:09,800 So I mean, obviously I think it was a huge mistake not to get 1318 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:15,080 Fields for free. It does seem like a huge error 1319 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:16,920 on their part. I don't know what. 1320 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,240 I just don't think traders know what they're doing as we wait 1321 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:24,320 for the draft to fill. Had Roman Wilson as. 1322 01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:26,160 Another I wanted to talk about Bidel. 1323 01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:28,520 How are we? How is this a prominently 1324 01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:30,840 charger show not gonna talk about Kamani Bidel? 1325 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,320 Yeah. Well, in honor of the Chargers 1326 01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:36,240 beats, we just are ignored. We just no Karain. 1327 01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,680 We gotta give them, we gotta give them some credit. 1328 01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:42,160 They actually have been doing their jobs as it pertains to the 1329 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,040 running backroom. Sam, was this last Friday or 1330 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,960 Thursday? You were on A roll, dude. 1331 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,960 You were, you were. You had like 4 Absolute banger. 1332 01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,160 Tweets you did you you had a nice run the other. 1333 01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:57,440 You had a nice run including including the Chargers beat 1334 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,760 writer not knowing how to properly smell milk. 1335 01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:03,080 That was so. Good. 1336 01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:05,680 That was an all time, all time dunk. 1337 01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,960 That was very, very good. It turns out when I don't tweet 1338 01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,720 screenshots of like, Jalen Naylor or Tyrone Shavers, 1339 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,760 actually. Yeah, I can. 1340 01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:17,080 I can give you some advice. I can give you some advice on 1341 01:07:17,080 --> 01:07:19,600 that, which is that athletic screenshots about Jalen Naylor 1342 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,000 are not going to get the people. Going, They're not going to get 1343 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,400 the people going. Now, those are for the true 1344 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:26,880 fans. But yeah, that that was bearish 1345 01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,840 that Daniel Popper did not know how to spell Kamani the doll. 1346 01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:33,960 It's really, it's really not good, but that's not going to 1347 01:07:33,960 --> 01:07:42,320 stop me because I can't read my, my, my thought process is as 1348 01:07:42,320 --> 01:07:46,880 long as Videl makes the roster, it's really the same bet that it 1349 01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,120 always was. Because he was never going to be 1350 01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:53,320 the starter, right? He he was never what, what 1351 01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,200 universe are we were going to live in where Greg Roman and 1352 01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,400 Harbaugh, we're going to come in and they were going to say Gus 1353 01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:00,760 Edwards and JK Dobbins, you guys are fully healthy. 1354 01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:03,640 Go sit your ass on the bench. It was a bet against Dobbins 1355 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:07,760 Health and it was a bet against Edward's versatility, which we 1356 01:08:07,760 --> 01:08:10,000 know he does not have. He he does not have that 1357 01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:15,120 versatility. So I I was not AI was I was not 1358 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:21,080 a big bull on him before, but I am feeling more bullish now. 1359 01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:23,439 Yeah, that makes sense. I box. 1360 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:25,800 Yeah, I I was messing around with this. 1361 01:08:25,960 --> 01:08:29,640 I agree that it was very unlikely that there were going 1362 01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:31,479 to be. Oh, Kamati Vidal is the Week 1 1363 01:08:31,479 --> 01:08:34,399 starter. I guess I was hoping for a 1364 01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:37,560 little bit more like, oh, he's clearly ahead of Isaiah Spiller 1365 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:40,160 and Jared Patterson and we haven't even got that yet. 1366 01:08:40,479 --> 01:08:43,760 But that's that's the scary part is that I was hoping he was at 1367 01:08:43,760 --> 01:08:46,880 least sort of more of a clear running back three. 1368 01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:50,160 I think there's plenty of time for that to sort itself out. 1369 01:08:50,399 --> 01:08:52,200 And he's still like the best talent profile. 1370 01:08:52,200 --> 01:08:55,080 I mean, Jared Patterson's been in the NFL for a couple years, 1371 01:08:55,080 --> 01:08:57,760 hasn't really gotten any meaningful carries. 1372 01:08:58,720 --> 01:09:01,000 Isaiah Spiller, same story there. 1373 01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:02,640 And he's been on the team forever, so he's had his 1374 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:06,319 chances. So I do think Videl will rise to 1375 01:09:06,319 --> 01:09:09,479 be running back three. And then it's just a matter of 1376 01:09:09,479 --> 01:09:12,200 time before Dobbins or Gus gets injured. 1377 01:09:12,200 --> 01:09:15,680 But it's still bears that he's just like, he doesn't seem to be 1378 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,399 flashing up in practice to be even considered above like some 1379 01:09:18,399 --> 01:09:22,640 real fringe talents there. Cran, you're on mute. 1380 01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:29,240 It's also not a given that he does rise and I've been playing 1381 01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:32,640 it like he would rise and I've, I hope he does because I have 1382 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,439 enough to where those those teams would really benefit. 1383 01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:39,399 Yeah, I'm at 12%, so I didn't go nuts, but I was, I was 1384 01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:41,720 definitely targeting him. Yeah, I'm, I'm taking him more 1385 01:09:41,720 --> 01:09:44,040 now. I I think he's a better pick 1386 01:09:44,160 --> 01:09:46,680 now. Well, yeah, I mean, he's cheaper 1387 01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:48,520 now You. Can get him in the 15th round 1388 01:09:48,520 --> 01:09:49,680 now. Yeah. 1389 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:53,840 I mean. What's your what's your exposure 1390 01:09:53,840 --> 01:09:56,160 blanket on on Dobbins since we last met? 1391 01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,560 It's definitely higher because I took him today in a BBM. 1392 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:03,240 I'm I'm taking him some now I'm taking. 1393 01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,520 But you know. I'm taking him some now knowing 1394 01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,360 he's going to be dead. I'm treating him the same way I 1395 01:10:09,360 --> 01:10:13,760 treat Zeke, like knowing that he is not going to be giving me 1396 01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,240 points in week 17 but he might give me a couple good spike 1397 01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:17,840 weeks in like week 7 or. Whatever. 1398 01:10:17,840 --> 01:10:19,040 No, that's exactly what I'm doing. 1399 01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:23,200 So I took him today with, let's see, I'm going to pull it up. 1400 01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:28,440 I took him with Trey Benson and that actually felt pretty fun. 1401 01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,240 My running back room was, yeah, my running back room was 1402 01:10:33,240 --> 01:10:36,120 Jonathan Taylor, Chase Brown, Trey Benson, JK Dobbins, Antonio 1403 01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,120 Gibson. So I'm like, you know, do some 1404 01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,280 stuff in the beginning of season and then some other dudes will 1405 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:48,320 do stuff. Yeah, I like I'm starting to 1406 01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:51,360 like Dobbins too, just as like I think the the Cam makers point 1407 01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:54,720 that Crane made on last week's show really made me see the 1408 01:10:54,720 --> 01:10:57,400 vision. Is that like at the price he's 1409 01:10:57,400 --> 01:10:58,800 at, we don't need him to be good. 1410 01:10:58,800 --> 01:11:01,320 I think I was really discounting him for odds of him like not 1411 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:04,760 even making the team. Now that it seems very likely 1412 01:11:04,760 --> 01:11:08,880 he's going to make the team now it's just like 151 sixty. 1413 01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,880 You don't have to like the player's talent at that point. 1414 01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:15,800 Like it just it. It could be just a bet on 1415 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,640 touches, which seems crazy for a guy who's been off so many major 1416 01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,880 injuries, but it does. Seem that's that's The thing is 1417 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:26,080 it's less it's it we're psyoping ourself again. 1418 01:11:26,440 --> 01:11:30,960 So we psyopped ourself to be out on Dobbins to be like, he can't 1419 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:32,480 possibly be ready for training camp. 1420 01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:34,240 He's ready for training camp. He's not on the PUP list. 1421 01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:38,240 But then it's also another it's it's it's another exercise in 1422 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:41,480 gaslighting to be like, yeah, JK Dobbins is totally going to stay 1423 01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:44,480 healthy for the remainder of the regular season. 1424 01:11:44,480 --> 01:11:46,960 You know, it it it goes, it goes the other way. 1425 01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:51,280 Although did you guys have this thought on the Hall of Fame 1426 01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:54,040 game, watching Cam Makers come back and and play and score the 1427 01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:56,440 touchdown being like, well if Cam Makers came back and scored 1428 01:11:56,440 --> 01:12:00,640 a touchdown in the preseason off the Achilles, maybe JK Dobbins 1429 01:12:00,640 --> 01:12:05,920 has it in him. I can definitely see that. 1430 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,040 Was that just me? It was just me. 1431 01:12:08,240 --> 01:12:10,440 No, yeah, that didn't click for me, but. 1432 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:15,400 But think about it. The the thing with Dobbins that 1433 01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:20,240 I'm trying like so he had the Achilles, but we have had 1434 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:24,320 there's like, I don't know. This is where I I don't, I just 1435 01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,800 don't know with, you know, the medical stuff, but I believe you 1436 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:30,000 can partially tear your Achilles and then fully tear it in the 1437 01:12:30,000 --> 01:12:31,440 partials. Way less bad. 1438 01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,840 So I'm like, is it possible that he like partially towards 1439 01:12:34,840 --> 01:12:38,040 Achilles because he's back like way sooner than we thought or 1440 01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,600 like, I don't know. Or like there's some his his 1441 01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,360 Achilles repair went like shockingly well or like. 1442 01:12:43,960 --> 01:12:46,000 I think the timeline for these things are just getting faster, 1443 01:12:46,000 --> 01:12:47,720 right? Like, I mean, the Aaron Rodgers 1444 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:50,000 thing, maybe that was a little bit of gaslighting, but Cam 1445 01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,800 Akers came back in the NFL playoffs after tearing his 1446 01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,480 Achilles in July of that season, right? 1447 01:12:55,480 --> 01:12:56,520 That's like, yeah. Yeah, May. 1448 01:12:56,680 --> 01:13:00,680 So or may Yeah, so. It was in OTAs. 1449 01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:05,200 But yeah, I, I do think that like at some point, I don't 1450 01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:07,720 know, again, speaking on something that I have no all 1451 01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,400 knowledge of, but we did see the trend of these ACL injuries 1452 01:13:11,400 --> 01:13:14,880 being so bad for NFL players. And then like about a decade 1453 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,920 ago, the data started to get better on players coming off the 1454 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:20,360 ACL. Like maybe the medical advances 1455 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,320 at some point are going to get to the place where Achilles is 1456 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:28,320 not a career ender. But again, we still have, we, we 1457 01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:31,880 don't really have data of, of that yet, right? 1458 01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:37,200 It's it's still pretty weak. Yeah, but I guess the point I'm 1459 01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:40,960 making is like, I don't know, the medical stuff is always 1460 01:13:40,960 --> 01:13:44,120 going to be uncertain. You know, we don't have all the 1461 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:46,160 information. And then I don't, even if I did 1462 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:48,360 that with the information and I'd be like, someone tell me 1463 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:53,960 what this means, please. So the the the fact that he is 1464 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:57,240 at practice, that he is moving around pretty well, that every 1465 01:13:57,240 --> 01:14:00,320 player on the Chargers is working through something, 1466 01:14:00,320 --> 01:14:02,720 according to Jim Harbaugh, except Dobbins, right. 1467 01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,560 Like there's, that's encouraging to me that, you know, we, we 1468 01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,760 talked about how he had so, so little money that it was 1469 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:12,160 basically just a tryout. Well, the tryout seems like it's 1470 01:14:12,160 --> 01:14:15,800 going pretty well. So I do think we want to, I 1471 01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:18,320 don't know, just be like, maybe I was, maybe I was wrong about 1472 01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:23,040 how devastating this injury was because this is, it was supposed 1473 01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,360 to devastate this part of the summer and it's not. 1474 01:14:28,240 --> 01:14:30,480 Sam, how many left do we need to fill for the big dog? 1475 01:14:30,480 --> 01:14:33,520 I'm about to tweet it. No, I just tweeted something and 1476 01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,640 tagged you guys. If you want to repost or or 1477 01:14:35,640 --> 01:14:37,960 tweet your own. Cran's actually the one managing 1478 01:14:37,960 --> 01:14:38,480 this. What is it? 1479 01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:40,120 Two people left. Three people. 1480 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:46,000 We lost one. OK, well let's wait for that to 1481 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,600 fill. There's a couple, one more riser 1482 01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,880 and faller. I wanted to talk through Roman 1483 01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:53,760 Wilson, I think another under discussed guy this summer. 1484 01:14:53,760 --> 01:14:58,360 He's just steadily fell down and you know there was this ankle 1485 01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,760 injury. He was seen walking in a boot. 1486 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:06,160 He was actually out of the boot today or or yesterday, which is 1487 01:15:06,160 --> 01:15:11,080 a positive sign. Crane with with Fields seeming a 1488 01:15:11,080 --> 01:15:13,600 little bit more draftable. Are you a little more interested 1489 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,880 in going after Roman Wilson at this depressed ADPI? 1490 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:21,440 Mean I know the picture was fake but I would like to see where 1491 01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:25,600 are you clans. Well, now people are saying it 1492 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:28,520 so so the picture, the picture was fake, but now a bunch of 1493 01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,600 people on Twitter, like literally since we started doing 1494 01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:34,240 the show in the last 90 minutes have been saying it's happening. 1495 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,600 OK, well that I mean, that would really hurt Wilson. 1496 01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:40,920 I mean that was that would literally send Roman Wilson to 1497 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:45,280 absolute 0. The the reason I think so in a 1498 01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:48,240 sense it doesn't affect Wilson because he wasn't going to play 1499 01:15:48,240 --> 01:15:49,920 on the outside. Who's going to be the slot if it 1500 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:53,320 went well? But the problem is that Calvin 1501 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,320 Austin has had a really good camp and will have some kind of 1502 01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,200 role quarter all. Patterson's going to get 1503 01:15:58,200 --> 01:16:00,800 involved in very gadgety ways, probably in the backfield, but 1504 01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:02,960 some in the slot. I don't think that there is a 1505 01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:05,360 full time slot receiver on this team. 1506 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,520 If there's Brandon Nyuk and George Pickens on the outside, I 1507 01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:11,360 think there's going to be like a group of receivers all kind of 1508 01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:15,480 filling in other routes. So and you know, they'll run a 1509 01:16:15,480 --> 01:16:20,560 lot of 12 too, so, or at least a decent enough 12 to where it's 1510 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,680 going to hurt Roman Wilson as the as the slot there. 1511 01:16:23,680 --> 01:16:28,720 So yeah, I, I think we need IU not to, to go there. 1512 01:16:28,720 --> 01:16:32,640 But if that happens, I mean, before the ankle injury, things 1513 01:16:32,640 --> 01:16:35,960 are sort of turning around for, for Roman Wilson a little bit 1514 01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:38,960 where it was like, Oh yeah, he'll probably win the slot 1515 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:43,600 receiver role eventually. So I would be somewhat 1516 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,440 interested in this price if IU goes elsewhere. 1517 01:16:47,640 --> 01:16:49,920 David So now you're drafting a ton of chiefs, are you, are you 1518 01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,040 drafting Wilson as a bring back at all? 1519 01:16:52,760 --> 01:16:55,520 I I think I was a little bit early because I actually was 1520 01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:57,600 kind of woke to him as a prospect. 1521 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:00,680 I was like, well, if the NFL is going to treat Ladd Mcconkey 1522 01:17:00,680 --> 01:17:05,160 like this, like a guy who barely played but was fast, why can't 1523 01:17:05,160 --> 01:17:09,600 Roman Wilson be that guy with limited production but was fast 1524 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:13,560 and and had, you know, like some big like he was good in their 1525 01:17:13,560 --> 01:17:19,120 like playoff games and stuff. But there was nothing at OTAs. 1526 01:17:19,360 --> 01:17:21,240 Like he was not a star of mini camp. 1527 01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:23,080 There was nothing, there was nothing there. 1528 01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:24,800 There was nothing at training camp. 1529 01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,360 And in fact, the first thing I got from him on training camp 1530 01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,840 was a negative report and then he hurt his ankle. 1531 01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:34,200 So yeah, I I'm like, I'm like totally out. 1532 01:17:34,200 --> 01:17:39,920 And if this IU thing is real, really, it's really bad for him. 1533 01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:42,760 The Steelers bring back. I mean, you know, it's it's say 1534 01:17:42,760 --> 01:17:46,080 the line Bart, it's Jalen Warren that that's the that's the way 1535 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,720 that's the way you do it or or Friar mood. 1536 01:17:48,720 --> 01:17:52,800 Yeah, yeah, on this Iuke stuff, I guess while we have time, 1537 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:55,440 let's dig into that. I'm curious, starting with the 1538 01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:59,960 Ukraine, if Iuke goes to the Steelers, what is his closing 1539 01:17:59,960 --> 01:18:07,000 line ADP in September? Well, let's see. 1540 01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:12,320 I think he would fall initially to probably the the third round, 1541 01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:14,520 middle, middle to late 3rd rounds. 1542 01:18:16,320 --> 01:18:19,920 Like he'd be decide he'd be in that kind of Stefan Diggs, DJ 1543 01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:27,960 Moore pocket. Then he probably falls again, as 1544 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,640 you know, guys from the fourth round come up and start flipping 1545 01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:34,120 those receivers. So I would say he probably lands 1546 01:18:34,120 --> 01:18:35,960 at the very end in like the mid 4th. 1547 01:18:36,360 --> 01:18:40,320 And then Pickens, I mean, Pickens got to fall. 1548 01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:43,760 Yeah, he's got to go almost to like the 6th. 1549 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,160 I don't know. I've been behind on Pickens 1550 01:18:45,480 --> 01:18:47,360 maybe? I would have so much George 1551 01:18:47,360 --> 01:18:50,280 Pickens, maybe George Pickens if George Pickens is going where 1552 01:18:50,280 --> 01:18:52,080 like Jackson Smith and Jigba goes. 1553 01:18:52,080 --> 01:18:55,280 I'm I'm like taking on debt to. Draft, no. 1554 01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:57,800 I think it'd be more like Jaden Reed or Jordan or. 1555 01:18:57,800 --> 01:19:00,200 Jordan OK, yeah, Then that that's, that's, that's 1556 01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,040 realistic. I mean, I would still, I would 1557 01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:05,320 still have more of him there. Cuz Reed's someone is 1558 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,680 interesting. Now and, and I yeah, I think all 1559 01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:10,200 the receivers falls is partly how I'm doing this. 1560 01:19:10,840 --> 01:19:14,480 Yeah, that sounds about right to me that like I think IUK first 1561 01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:19,640 Michael Pittman is like kind of an interesting decision that 1562 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:21,640 people would have at that point in the draft. 1563 01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:26,200 I think he would wherever Pittman say that group of wide 1564 01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:30,240 receivers lands, I would imagine IU lands like just in front of 1565 01:19:30,240 --> 01:19:32,240 them. I think the. 1566 01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:35,120 The draft started. Yeah, we have to set up. 1567 01:19:35,800 --> 01:19:38,280 OK. Nice. 1568 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,680 Is there any way to? I haven't streamed a lot of 1569 01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:42,280 drafts. Is there any way to make this 1570 01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:45,480 more visible? Or I guess this is what this is 1571 01:19:45,480 --> 01:19:47,480 the standard ship chasing view, right? 1572 01:19:48,480 --> 01:19:50,760 Yeah. Yeah, Karen can. 1573 01:19:50,880 --> 01:19:53,800 He can click the little pop out and it'll be just be all the 1574 01:19:53,800 --> 01:19:55,960 board. Sweet. 1575 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:59,200 All right. So what do you guys think in 1576 01:19:59,200 --> 01:20:03,160 terms of strategy in these? I have not even what is the 1577 01:20:03,160 --> 01:20:05,920 advancement structure came. In it's super. 1578 01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:09,880 It's it's it's like the easiest advance rate. 1579 01:20:10,600 --> 01:20:12,480 Well, the mastiff is a is a little bit easier. 1580 01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,160 I'll pull up the exact advance, right. 1581 01:20:14,160 --> 01:20:17,560 But it's it's the opposite of Galaxy brain. 1582 01:20:17,640 --> 01:20:20,280 Is, is what we are. Are doing I'm seeing one out of 1583 01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:23,360 six, one out of 610 seat final so. 1584 01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:25,920 Well, two out of 12 advanced from the pod then. 1585 01:20:25,920 --> 01:20:30,360 Then one sixth once, Yeah. Yeah, like I, I broke a tie 1586 01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:33,200 earlier today. I was on clock on a big dog and 1587 01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,400 I took Samir White over Jonathan Brooks because I'm like, you 1588 01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:38,840 know, yeah. But I I'm not going to make as 1589 01:20:38,920 --> 01:20:40,680 much of A play at the late season stuff all. 1590 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,360 Right. Fuck whatever. 1591 01:20:43,720 --> 01:20:46,720 I like, I think anchor running back is is really good here, 1592 01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:50,120 right? I guess I'm fine with Dijon or 1593 01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:51,520 Bris. Yeah. 1594 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,200 Bijon, Dijon or Bris, what do you guys want? 1595 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:56,760 Bijon. Probably give me Bijon. 1596 01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:01,080 You know what honestly, it has has sold me on Bijon over Bris, 1597 01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:06,160 even though I think it's really close, is the backup quarterback 1598 01:21:06,160 --> 01:21:09,080 situation in Atlanta. And that, that sounds dumb, but 1599 01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:11,480 having Michael panics there, don't you think that gives the 1600 01:21:11,480 --> 01:21:15,800 offense just like a little bit of upside still, if shit hits 1601 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:18,640 the fan with Achilles recovery for either of these 1602 01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:20,760 quarterbacks? Yeah, yeah, no, it's, I mean, 1603 01:21:21,400 --> 01:21:24,560 listen, man, like we have, we've all suffered three years of Zach 1604 01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,480 Wilson and a ton of other dudes in The Jets. 1605 01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:29,160 I don't think it's silly at all to. 1606 01:21:29,560 --> 01:21:31,000 My my tie break. Is. 1607 01:21:31,440 --> 01:21:34,600 My tie break is not that it, it's the defensive quality. 1608 01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:37,640 The Jets defense is going to be so good that they're just going 1609 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,280 to be playing in a bunch of these low scoring, low paced 1610 01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:42,960 games. The Falcons defense is going to 1611 01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:45,400 be like fine, but it's not It's not going to be like that. 1612 01:21:46,440 --> 01:21:48,320 But I obviously I don't fault that. 1613 01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:51,200 I I think I think you could be fine with either. 1614 01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,680 I think they're both, yeah. I honestly you can sell me on 1615 01:21:54,800 --> 01:21:57,160 either way. I imagine if you took truth 1616 01:21:57,160 --> 01:21:58,880 serum there, you're you're taking your guy Breece. 1617 01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:01,560 He didn't even need to. Truth serum. 1618 01:22:01,600 --> 01:22:05,520 I was just outvoted to the one. That's all that. 1619 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,520 But do you think it's clear cut or do you think it's it's close? 1620 01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:12,480 I don't think it's clear cut. I don't know, Maybe I do think 1621 01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:16,720 it's clear cut, yeah. I just think he's like Breece 1622 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,800 sort of sets up his, you know, pretty, pretty safe where he's 1623 01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:24,200 just like, Oh yeah, he's obviously the best running back 1624 01:22:24,200 --> 01:22:25,800 in the league, you know, this year. 1625 01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:28,000 Like he, he just was so good last year. 1626 01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:31,560 So yeah, I like, I like Bijan a lot. 1627 01:22:31,560 --> 01:22:33,960 I think it's a little bit still of a projection and it's 1628 01:22:33,960 --> 01:22:41,040 somewhat driven by the touches in that, you know, I don't know, 1629 01:22:41,040 --> 01:22:42,800 it's a little less appealing to me. 1630 01:22:43,840 --> 01:22:45,680 I like that. Really wanted. 1631 01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:51,160 Really wanted Nico. All right, So JT Olave, Yeah. 1632 01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,520 JT, Olave, Barkley, Adams, what do you guys like? 1633 01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:57,240 I will do a lot later. Adams here, I think. 1634 01:22:59,560 --> 01:23:01,680 I have Adams higher but I don't really care. 1635 01:23:02,680 --> 01:23:05,440 I'm honestly good with Adams, seems like a good. 1636 01:23:05,440 --> 01:23:07,920 Format to get Adams exposure, don't you think? 1637 01:23:07,960 --> 01:23:11,640 Like a little bit less worried about the stacking maybe? 1638 01:23:14,440 --> 01:23:16,720 Well, the truth is, is that every format is better for 1639 01:23:16,720 --> 01:23:20,200 Devante Adams because he's the best wide receiver. 1640 01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:25,240 But truly, I, I, my truth serum is that I really believe that I, 1641 01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:29,200 I think that Devonta Adams actually is the best receiver. 1642 01:23:29,200 --> 01:23:31,960 Like it just that the job of being a receiver I I think. 1643 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:33,600 Yeah, come on, Jefferson's better than Adams. 1644 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,360 Right. Oh, OK, Jefferson is better. 1645 01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,960 Yes, he's he's the second best. OK. 1646 01:23:39,400 --> 01:23:43,600 Yeah, that was that was a very interesting conversation that 1647 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:46,160 that you and Gretch had on on Chip chasing about his Garrett 1648 01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:50,080 Wilson, Justin Jefferson thing. Yeah, that that caused me to go 1649 01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:54,400 dive deeper into the math and and become more convinced that I 1650 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:57,000 was right. You know, that's always what 1651 01:23:57,000 --> 01:24:00,760 happens because this is a this is this is a good question for 1652 01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:05,080 for all of everyone listening. What do you guys think? 1653 01:24:05,120 --> 01:24:08,720 Nick Mullins career YPA is on over 800 attempts. 1654 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,440 So it's it's like not nothing over over 800 attempts. 1655 01:24:12,440 --> 01:24:15,320 What do people think? Nick Mullins, his career YPA is 1656 01:24:15,480 --> 01:24:18,800 keeping in mind his coaches have been Kyle Shanahan, Kevin 1657 01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:21,880 Stefanski and Kevin O'Connell. It's. 1658 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,480 Like. Seven point 5.7. 1659 01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:28,800 You guys aren't even close dude it's like 8.2. 1660 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:33,320 Wow. Yeah, I mean, that's a, that's a 1661 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:34,280 scam. That's a. 1662 01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:36,920 Shannon, it's a scam, but but you think the scam is changing. 1663 01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,360 You think you think that JJ McCarthy and Sam Darnold are 1664 01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:41,640 entering into a different scam. No, they are. 1665 01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:42,880 They are going in. They are. 1666 01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:44,920 They are actually partaking in the exact. 1667 01:24:44,920 --> 01:24:47,360 Same scam. There's been a couple players 1668 01:24:47,360 --> 01:24:50,240 that have have failed the scam like Trey Lance, but I generally 1669 01:24:50,240 --> 01:24:51,920 agree that. That that, that's scam. 1670 01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,640 That's scam. Continue unabated muscle. 1671 01:24:54,640 --> 01:25:00,240 Yeah, Beathard was 6.5 YPA, which is still like it's better 1672 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:02,000 than any season of Sam Darnold's career. 1673 01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:10,960 All right, so we got. No, this is the absolute worst 1674 01:25:10,960 --> 01:25:14,040 thing about taking Bijon is that Kyrie is always the best pick 1675 01:25:14,040 --> 01:25:15,720 when you come back up in the third round. 1676 01:25:18,000 --> 01:25:21,520 Yeah, I I agree. That doesn't happen like this if 1677 01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:25,160 you take Breece. It it does, it's it's literally. 1678 01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:27,280 It's no making up falls dude. Totally. 1679 01:25:30,000 --> 01:25:34,440 I Oh, so we don't. Even have Chiron. 1680 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:39,240 Yeah, I so I think, I think it's Dell you're. 1681 01:25:39,400 --> 01:25:41,120 You're Dell over. I'm digs over Dell. 1682 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:44,120 I'm digs. I'm digs over Dell. 1683 01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:47,200 OK. But I, I, yeah, I don't think 1684 01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,400 it's like a huge, huge gap. The other move sometimes I do is 1685 01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,040 I take flowers and I play for Lamar. 1686 01:25:52,040 --> 01:25:55,520 Any interest in that? I'd rather do Kelsey and play 1687 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:59,120 for Mahomes. Well, we have one. 1688 01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:02,000 See the problem with Kelsey is we only have one receiver. 1689 01:26:02,360 --> 01:26:06,520 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That is, I mean that is, that is 1690 01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:08,120 literally. That is literally the problem. 1691 01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:14,000 Yeah, I like the idea, but OK, I almost did that earlier today 1692 01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:15,520 and then I didn't for the same reason. 1693 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:18,400 Here's here's the other thing, everyone in chat who's talking 1694 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,440 about the trade, it's like no one, no one real is saying it, 1695 01:26:21,440 --> 01:26:23,240 yet no, no one real is saying this. 1696 01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:27,120 It's all, it's all like guys who have NFL in their Twitter name, 1697 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:31,320 but but they're not affiliated with any journalistic place at 1698 01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,000 all. Like it's just like guys. 1699 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:36,960 So yeah, chill out. Chill. 1700 01:26:38,360 --> 01:26:39,120 Out. I mean, it does feel. 1701 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,440 Like it does feel a lot. I do think like 2 weeks ago I 1702 01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:45,440 was dismissing IU trades. I don't think I'm not dismissing 1703 01:26:45,440 --> 01:26:47,160 them anymore. It does feel like there's some 1704 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:50,120 smoke to an actual dog. Which is there's definitely 1705 01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:54,520 smoke. Which is insane because I was I 1706 01:26:54,520 --> 01:26:57,280 did the take cast the other day with Ted Seth from he used to 1707 01:26:57,280 --> 01:26:59,920 work for summer. He's at Penn Gaming now and we 1708 01:26:59,920 --> 01:27:03,080 were kind of thinking about it and we were like next year 1709 01:27:03,080 --> 01:27:07,720 without Iuke. If they do trade him, CMC is 29, 1710 01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,480 Kittle's 31, Debo's 29, and they have to pay pretty that big ass 1711 01:27:11,480 --> 01:27:17,560 extension that would be crazy to run into 20. 25 I don't I don't 1712 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:20,120 understand why they they can't figure out a deal with him. 1713 01:27:20,520 --> 01:27:24,400 Willis Willis did roast me. Very good guy who posted a fake 1714 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:26,960 IU Instagram photo telling us to chill out. 1715 01:27:32,360 --> 01:27:36,120 Guys, I said that I was sorry. I said that I was sorry. 1716 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:38,280 I apologized. All right, That was. 1717 01:27:38,360 --> 01:27:40,560 I thought that was rather big of me, honestly. 1718 01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:45,600 Here we go. Oh, let's make Sam take T 1719 01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:49,640 Higgins, let's make Sam take T. Let's do T Higgins, dude, that's 1720 01:27:49,640 --> 01:27:53,840 a good thing. I, I said this on Davis's 1721 01:27:53,840 --> 01:27:56,120 stream, I, I actually take T Higgins. 1722 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,400 I hate, I hate to break the break the spell of the bit, but 1723 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:01,400 he, he's just like an 8% guy for me. 1724 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:08,440 Oh no, you go ahead. Like, come on, man, we had a 1725 01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:09,960 chance to make Sam take T Higgins. 1726 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:12,600 All right, What do we do? I think we take a Chiefs wide 1727 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,240 receiver or Mahomes, or we do Kirk. 1728 01:28:16,320 --> 01:28:19,400 I like Christian Kirk a lot. I like Amari Cooper over 1729 01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:25,880 Christian Kirk for sure. Where are you saying OK, I'd be 1730 01:28:25,880 --> 01:28:28,160 Kirk just for the IU to Cleveland stuff. 1731 01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:30,920 That's really overthinking it. No, that's insane. 1732 01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:32,800 I think Amari. I think amari all. 1733 01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:37,080 Right. Oh. 1734 01:28:37,400 --> 01:28:39,840 Breaking news Iuke to Cleveland confirms. 1735 01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:43,160 That is the trade that I actually think makes it. 1736 01:28:43,200 --> 01:28:44,560 It does. It still doesn't make total 1737 01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:47,840 sense, but it makes the most sense to me because Amari Cooper 1738 01:28:47,840 --> 01:28:51,520 still in his prime if this if the 49ers and Iuke if that 1739 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,760 relationship is just unbendable and they can get back Amari 1740 01:28:54,760 --> 01:28:58,480 Cooper plus picks, that allows them to still be firmly in 1741 01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:01,000 contention this year. Like I think Amari could be very 1742 01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:03,200 good for 1-2 more years like that. 1743 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:05,280 That trade is the one that made the most sense to me. 1744 01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:09,480 That does make the most sense. But that that actually would 1745 01:29:09,480 --> 01:29:11,720 send that sends Amari Cooper to San Francisco. 1746 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,320 So in this universe, we're still good with him in the fourth 1747 01:29:14,320 --> 01:29:15,120 round. Actually that's. 1748 01:29:15,960 --> 01:29:20,000 Not really. There's not a universe where 1749 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:23,760 Mari Cooper is a really bad at wide receiver 30 pricing. 1750 01:29:25,080 --> 01:29:26,800 Yeah. He's just, he's still really 1751 01:29:26,800 --> 01:29:29,400 good, I think. Yeah. 1752 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:36,040 Always was astronaut meme won me, won me a a dynasty 1753 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,080 championship last year. Got me, got me, got me through 1754 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:41,920 the Sprint. Those playoff games. 1755 01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:45,560 I'll never forget them. It's it's strange, like I don't 1756 01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:47,280 know why he's just not a fun click. 1757 01:29:47,280 --> 01:29:50,080 Like he's just never. No, it's it's because it's 1758 01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:53,280 because he's a Brown. And the Browns are just like, 1759 01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:58,040 the least they're they are the least fun, most annoying team in 1760 01:29:58,040 --> 01:30:00,400 the NFL right now, for sure. Yeah. 1761 01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:04,880 It's also I think because he he was like so hyped as a prospect 1762 01:30:04,880 --> 01:30:07,000 and he never hit that like top five wide. 1763 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,000 Receiver. Absolutely. 1764 01:30:08,160 --> 01:30:11,280 We're like dinging him for like, not meeting expectations even 1765 01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,120 though he's been really good. I think that's a little bit what 1766 01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:15,520 it is. I think that's, I think you're 1767 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,040 totally right. He never became Justin Jefferson 1768 01:30:18,040 --> 01:30:20,400 when he was that level of prospect, you know? 1769 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:25,720 Yeah, yeah, a lot of olds here though. 1770 01:30:25,720 --> 01:30:29,360 We got a, we have a lot of, a lot of guys, a lot of. 1771 01:30:29,440 --> 01:30:31,840 In and out on top of the queue. What do you what do we say, man? 1772 01:30:37,960 --> 01:30:41,600 I think go ahead. Oh, Rashi Rice went, so never 1773 01:30:41,600 --> 01:30:44,200 mind. Hollywood, Rice and Worthy all 1774 01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:46,280 went before we went. That's hilarious, I think. 1775 01:30:46,280 --> 01:30:48,320 Richardson is is interesting on this team. 1776 01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:51,600 Yeah, I do too. I think we go elite onesie here. 1777 01:30:52,240 --> 01:30:55,160 I would do pits but Kincaid and Richardson are both good too. 1778 01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:58,600 I think I'm Richardson. Sure, shipping. 1779 01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:01,200 Yeah, I think I'm Richardson over those guys. 1780 01:31:02,960 --> 01:31:05,840 These CRAN, these are not rank I it's the font's so small. 1781 01:31:05,840 --> 01:31:07,960 These are just ADP, not you. Just ADP, I don't have the 1782 01:31:07,960 --> 01:31:09,520 ranks, OK. Got it. 1783 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:16,200 That was. That was fine. 1784 01:31:17,440 --> 01:31:19,920 That fifth round, that fifth round, once all those Chiefs 1785 01:31:19,920 --> 01:31:22,160 wide receivers get wiped out, you're like, what do you do? 1786 01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,680 I don't even that. That's never on my bingo card. 1787 01:31:27,800 --> 01:31:31,280 Well, it also because the 6th is just like all the same guys 1788 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:32,400 again. Yeah. 1789 01:31:32,400 --> 01:31:34,920 Like it's just like, how does that work? 1790 01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,040 I don't know. There's just all there. 1791 01:31:38,040 --> 01:31:39,800 Yeah, because there's not no one mistaken for 10. 1792 01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:42,560 Things like I could take James Cook and Crete Keenan Allen in 1793 01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,920 the fifth round, or I could take James Cook or Keenan Allen at 63 1794 01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:48,440 and one of the two. Yeah, I mean, look at, I mean, 1795 01:31:48,440 --> 01:31:50,680 this is the kind of the thing it's like the tight ends, the 1796 01:31:50,680 --> 01:31:52,640 running backs start to go like it's a lot of the same 1797 01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,920 receivers. So I I do like going elite 1798 01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:56,240 onesie there. Same. 1799 01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,960 Can I, can I sell you on? Sorry, Davis. 1800 01:31:59,080 --> 01:32:01,200 Yeah, go ahead. The people are asking us to be 1801 01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:03,760 on the left side of the board. OK. 1802 01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:07,920 The different layout. Like this? 1803 01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,120 OK, let me remove the. Remove the boxes. 1804 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:14,480 Yeah, yeah, it's trying to get too fancy. 1805 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:21,080 CRAN, let me tell you on this take in this format, is elite 1806 01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,160 tight end less important? Because as I understand it, like 1807 01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:28,200 the thesis of elite tight end is that like in a larger field 1808 01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:30,560 tournament, if you don't have George Kittle's going to be 1809 01:32:30,560 --> 01:32:33,440 owned on one of the 500 teams. And if you don't have him and he 1810 01:32:33,440 --> 01:32:36,240 gets 40 points, it's going to be so hard to win when there's just 1811 01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,520 ten teams in the finals. Like there's very good odds 1812 01:32:38,520 --> 01:32:41,480 George Kittle isn't even in the finals, right? 1813 01:32:41,480 --> 01:32:44,120 So that'd be my logic for why it's less important. 1814 01:32:44,120 --> 01:32:46,920 It's also, it's also really important in getting you through 1815 01:32:47,520 --> 01:32:50,200 and it's very, very, very difficult to get through, you 1816 01:32:50,200 --> 01:32:53,040 know, one out of 16 or whatever. It's not as difficult to get 1817 01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:56,240 through one out of six. So it is less important. 1818 01:32:56,240 --> 01:33:01,840 I do think if Kittle is here though, he's kind of a smash, 1819 01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,280 given that you might. Be traded. 1820 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:04,960 I agree. I think he's a. 1821 01:33:05,000 --> 01:33:07,520 Smash I, I like Kittle a lot. I was, I was just kind of 1822 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,120 made-up the whole points of it fall here. 1823 01:33:09,760 --> 01:33:11,520 Thanks for falling right into our trend. 1824 01:33:22,040 --> 01:33:26,880 Oh my God, that was. Good content, Davis taught you 1825 01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:32,000 well. I, I I disagree with not wanting 1826 01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,120 to have an elite tight end in any format, like literally like 1827 01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:38,840 three man, like three man lobbies, Like I want to have the 1828 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:43,280 best tight end because tight end differentiating points are just 1829 01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,240 like, yeah, for the matters for week 17. 1830 01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:47,840 But guess what? Mark Andrews is also going to 1831 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:51,640 score like 100 more points than Noah fan in the regular season 1832 01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,600 2. Like they're just going to 1833 01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,960 produce at a really high level. Yeah, and I mean this 1834 01:33:56,960 --> 01:33:58,960 technically like isn't elite tight end, right? 1835 01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:00,600 Like we got him in the 6th. So this isn't. 1836 01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:03,520 Therefore Kettle is not elite. And all right, Hayden wanks. 1837 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:05,480 I know you're in the chat, chime, chime in. 1838 01:34:05,560 --> 01:34:07,920 Is this is this elite? Not elite tight end dude. 1839 01:34:08,600 --> 01:34:10,320 There are, there are, would have been elite tight end. 1840 01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:12,240 There are only two, in my opinion. 1841 01:34:12,240 --> 01:34:14,960 There are only two elite tight ends, Kelsey and Andrews, and 1842 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:18,800 then everyone else is just kind of varying degrees of tilting. 1843 01:34:19,200 --> 01:34:22,360 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've been workshopping this like 1844 01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:26,120 take that that it is historically like one of the 1845 01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:27,840 worst takes if you look at the data. 1846 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:37,360 But Titan 7, the Titan 7 to like 12 this year, which includes 1847 01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:40,920 like Kittle, Bowers, Ninjoku Ferguson. 1848 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:43,720 I don't really love Evan Ingram, but kind of everyone else in 1849 01:34:43,720 --> 01:34:49,720 that group I think is like just as likely to produce as an elite 1850 01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:53,840 tight end as a couple of the guys that go in front of them, 1851 01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,320 just as likely as like a controversial. 1852 01:34:56,320 --> 01:34:58,000 Way. Yeah, this, this is historically 1853 01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:00,560 like one of the the. Worst The biggest trap in. 1854 01:35:00,600 --> 01:35:02,040 Fact. Like literally it is. 1855 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,640 It is. It's amazing how how much of A 1856 01:35:04,640 --> 01:35:06,680 trap. It is but but I do think like 1857 01:35:06,880 --> 01:35:09,800 Gretsch brings up the point of just there being a lot deeper of 1858 01:35:09,800 --> 01:35:12,240 elite tight end profiles and I agree with him there. 1859 01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:15,440 But I think I just disagree with him on like where to cut it off 1860 01:35:15,440 --> 01:35:17,600 or I'd have to talk to Gretsch. Maybe we don't disagree, but 1861 01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:22,040 like the the run David and Joku went on to end the season last 1862 01:35:22,040 --> 01:35:25,960 year was like better than Trey McBride played down the stretch 1863 01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:28,880 both from like targets for outrun and like fantasy points. 1864 01:35:29,200 --> 01:35:32,560 And the market is basically saying like we don't care at all 1865 01:35:32,560 --> 01:35:35,600 because it was Joe Flacco. Like it's like 4. 1866 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:38,920 We're giving all the credit to David and Joku stretch run to 1867 01:35:38,920 --> 01:35:41,600 like 40 year old Joe Flacco who's on the couch. 1868 01:35:41,600 --> 01:35:44,680 Like I don't get why we're not giving David and Joku like any 1869 01:35:44,680 --> 01:35:46,560 credit for that elite stretch run. 1870 01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,640 Yeah, last year, but I don't know. 1871 01:35:50,520 --> 01:35:52,480 I mean, because, well, it came with a different quarterback. 1872 01:35:52,480 --> 01:35:55,480 They then they traded for Judy. And also, like in Joku is such a 1873 01:35:55,480 --> 01:35:57,720 known quantity, it's a little tougher to get excited about 1874 01:35:57,720 --> 01:35:59,960 him. But don't you think, like, tight 1875 01:35:59,960 --> 01:36:03,560 ends, like their career paths? Like, I get if there's water, 1876 01:36:04,480 --> 01:36:06,480 yeah. That's like your big thing. 1877 01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:09,400 It's like tight ends. I know, I know, no, I'm not like 1878 01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:11,840 out on a Joku, but I think you know, compared to McBride, he's 1879 01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:14,400 entering his third season after a massive second year breakout. 1880 01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:18,960 The the hope is that he is like the tight end for a decade after 1881 01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,280 this. Like that's when you're taking 1882 01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:22,440 McBride, you're really hoping that that's what's going to 1883 01:36:23,160 --> 01:36:26,120 happen, that he's going to merge as the next Andrews, the next, 1884 01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:29,680 you know, Kelsey or like Zach Ertz maybe is a little less 1885 01:36:30,360 --> 01:36:31,600 crazy. But you know, one of these guys 1886 01:36:31,600 --> 01:36:34,080 that we take year in year out at the very top. 1887 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,320 And I definitely think McBride has a much better chance of 1888 01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:40,160 that, you know, just given the the context around what he did 1889 01:36:40,160 --> 01:36:42,080 all. Right, what are we looking at 1890 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:43,480 here? Yeah, we need to see the the. 1891 01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:48,960 Cue Yeah, sorry. Oh boy, I didn't. 1892 01:36:49,120 --> 01:36:50,560 I didn't want you guys to have to see this. 1893 01:36:50,560 --> 01:36:53,560 Yeah, it's so bad. It's always so it's just 1894 01:36:53,760 --> 01:36:55,520 miserable. Who are the wide receivers? 1895 01:36:56,720 --> 01:36:57,760 Yeah, they don't have those here. 1896 01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:01,040 You know, you know who they are. You know and you know what? 1897 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:03,560 Curtis Samuel went. I think we take, I think we take 1898 01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:04,960 a running back. Let's not get bullied into. 1899 01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:07,480 What about James Conner or Montgomery? 1900 01:37:07,960 --> 01:37:11,880 Connor OR Oh yeah, Connor. I I forgot that. 1901 01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,720 Probably Connor for this format, like Montgomery, like the 1902 01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:19,600 contingent stuff's a little better, but I think I'd be 1903 01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,600 Connor here. Yeah, I'm Connor. 1904 01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:27,000 OK. Yeah, the Richardson pick was a 1905 01:37:27,000 --> 01:37:29,040 mistake. Shoot a gun. 1906 01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:30,920 Receiver. Shoot a gun receiver because we 1907 01:37:30,920 --> 01:37:32,120 could have taken Kyler Murray there. 1908 01:37:32,800 --> 01:37:36,760 Yeah, also Stroud sitting right here with digs we just passed 1909 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,280 on. Well, that's, you know. 1910 01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:42,360 Yeah. The thing I like about 1911 01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:46,840 Richardson is that at least it sets us up for wide receiver 1912 01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:50,160 picks and in the in the window where normally would be taking 1913 01:37:50,160 --> 01:37:51,680 like running backs to quarterbacks, so. 1914 01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:56,480 It does, but I still like to get four and we have 3. 1915 01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,800 I I agree. I agree. 1916 01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:01,440 I just get it gets to a point where like when Curtis Samuel 1917 01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:05,040 goes, I'm not getting bullied into just like a bad pick just 1918 01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:08,080 because it's a wide receiver. Like I know that that's always 1919 01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:12,720 my goal to get 4 through 7, but. Yeah. 1920 01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:17,200 And I mean the Kittle pick, I have no regrets about that. 1921 01:38:18,560 --> 01:38:20,120 Richardson's maybe the one that we wish. 1922 01:38:20,240 --> 01:38:21,760 We. Yeah, you want, you want, you 1923 01:38:21,760 --> 01:38:23,800 want to have Keenan. You want to have Keenan? 1924 01:38:24,040 --> 01:38:25,760 Yeah, Keenan would have been a better pick, I think. 1925 01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:29,000 Keenan Stroud versus Richardson, Connor. 1926 01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:31,680 Keenan Stroud. You want Keenan Stroud? 1927 01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,880 Yeah. Or Keenan Kyler if you're yeah, 1928 01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,120 DeAndre Hopkins. Kyler went, Kyler went ahead, so 1929 01:38:37,120 --> 01:38:40,480 it doesn't matter. DeAndre Hopkins at pick 84 just 1930 01:38:40,960 --> 01:38:45,360 just seems bad to me. I'm I'm I'm out of the injured 1931 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:46,840 32 year old wide receiver. Business. 1932 01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:50,920 I'm pretty sure I got Hopkins at pick 84 like just in May Like 1933 01:38:50,920 --> 01:38:51,760 just. Before he. 1934 01:38:52,760 --> 01:38:54,800 Was totally healthy, people just weren't into it. 1935 01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:58,320 We should on DraftKings drafters, but for some reason 1936 01:38:58,320 --> 01:39:01,960 they're way better at like reacting to negative news than 1937 01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:03,640 underdog drafters are sometimes, and maybe it's that. 1938 01:39:03,640 --> 01:39:05,040 Well, imagine. It's the AEP. 1939 01:39:05,400 --> 01:39:08,040 It's, it's the O, dude. It's, it's the big red. 1940 01:39:08,040 --> 01:39:10,280 It's the big red O, It's just impossible to click on. 1941 01:39:10,280 --> 01:39:12,640 It's too scary. All right, Gran, can we see the 1942 01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:16,520 Lord here again? I think we go with Running Dog 1943 01:39:16,520 --> 01:39:18,800 again. The mirror Brooks would be my 1944 01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:23,280 guys. Chase Brown. 1945 01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:28,040 It's a little too early. Little too early. 1946 01:39:28,080 --> 01:39:32,200 I like Zamir for the, I think like the team bet on Las Vegas 1947 01:39:32,200 --> 01:39:33,640 is like kind of good in this format. 1948 01:39:34,200 --> 01:39:38,280 Actually, I think Zamir and Adam's, well, I don't know. 1949 01:39:39,160 --> 01:39:41,000 I think we're just kind of like in this type of format where we 1950 01:39:41,000 --> 01:39:42,520 don't need like the crazy weekly ceiling. 1951 01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,840 We're just kind of hoping that, like, Las Vegas isn't like a 1952 01:39:44,840 --> 01:39:47,160 shit show, right? Yeah, yeah, they're willing to 1953 01:39:47,240 --> 01:39:51,080 like if they, if they're in shootouts, they don't give up. 1954 01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:53,920 You know, they're they're sometimes able to punch in 1955 01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,120 touchdowns with Zamir like that's they're willing. 1956 01:39:57,120 --> 01:39:58,680 There's my phones. What do you guys think? 1957 01:39:59,320 --> 01:40:03,400 I like Samir. I don't really like Samir, but 1958 01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:07,120 it's fine. Does anyone else do? 1959 01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:10,440 You just you really just would be surprised how much these like 1960 01:40:10,440 --> 01:40:13,440 3 condom teams do well in these formats. 1961 01:40:13,640 --> 01:40:16,400 Like it it. It's annoying, but it is true, I 1962 01:40:16,400 --> 01:40:16,960 think. I may think. 1963 01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,360 I think Jonathan Brooks is a terrible pick in this format 1964 01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:20,080 actually. I do. 1965 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:22,960 I kind of do. I think Jonathan Brooks might 1966 01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,560 just be a bad pick. Actually I might. 1967 01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,440 I might just be. I might just be moving to 1968 01:40:26,440 --> 01:40:27,920 Jonathan Brooks being a bad pick. 1969 01:40:28,200 --> 01:40:32,160 Where he's going. I'm pretty is that is that is 1970 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:34,080 that anti woke of me? It is. 1971 01:40:34,200 --> 01:40:38,280 I mean it like definitionally is, Yeah, I think. 1972 01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:41,640 Large, large field stuff. He's he's still pretty good. 1973 01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:45,560 He's great, large field stuff. Where are you? 1974 01:40:45,920 --> 01:40:47,480 So Corrine, where are you at then? 1975 01:40:47,480 --> 01:40:50,560 Just like Panthers structurally, are you just like leaving the 1976 01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:52,720 light on for them to be the 21st best offense? 1977 01:40:52,720 --> 01:40:53,960 Yeah, I am. OK, OK. 1978 01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,880 I mean, because Canalis is like, dude, Baker Mayfield was was 1979 01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:02,880 like probably worse than Bryce Young was with the Panthers the 1980 01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:04,560 the year before he was with Canalis. 1981 01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:06,800 He was horrendous when he was with the Panthers. 1982 01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:09,840 I think there's, there's something to Canalis. 1983 01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:14,160 He's going to be, you know, definitely run first and it's 1984 01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,520 going to be a conservative offense in certain ways, but I 1985 01:41:17,520 --> 01:41:21,560 think it will be functional. Yeah. 1986 01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:23,560 I'm not like all in on the Panthers or anything by any. 1987 01:41:24,280 --> 01:41:27,640 I just think too it's it's underrated how bad of a hand 1988 01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:30,920 Bryce Young was given last year. And I'll let's decide if we're 1989 01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:33,760 picking and then I'll. So what do you guys think about 1990 01:41:33,760 --> 01:41:36,760 going to receiver like we could do Shaheed or? 1991 01:41:38,320 --> 01:41:43,480 Shaheed is is every basketball virgins, you know, shelter in a 1992 01:41:43,480 --> 01:41:45,760 storm when they when they've been buried by the avalanche, 1993 01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:48,440 Like they just got to convince themselves of some ceiling. 1994 01:41:48,440 --> 01:41:52,040 They got the elite onesie. The other move would be to to go 1995 01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,720 running back and there is still a chosen 1. 1996 01:41:56,680 --> 01:41:58,840 No, I think we take a wide receiver. 1997 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:01,480 I think we go. I would throw There, goes Chase 1998 01:42:01,480 --> 01:42:04,320 Brown. I would go, I would go Dobbs, 1999 01:42:05,240 --> 01:42:07,560 yeah, Dobbs or Wicks. Probably Dobbs though. 2000 01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:14,040 Yeah I think Dobbs running consistently with the ones and 2001 01:42:14,040 --> 01:42:17,760 Wix getting like 6 snaps with the ones has me leaning Dobbs. 2002 01:42:19,840 --> 01:42:26,680 So I, I did, I did, I did. Of course I did some some deep 2003 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:29,520 diving on that because I knew it wasn't representative. 2004 01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:32,520 But what I've been reading from Packers training camp and you 2005 01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:35,440 best believe, I would imagine I'm more well read on the 2006 01:42:35,440 --> 01:42:36,840 Packers. Like I know more about the 2007 01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,520 Packers like backup safety battle than any other Packers 2008 01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:43,240 fan. Cuz I just crane. 2009 01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:47,120 I've been watching packers.com video content because it's not 2010 01:42:47,120 --> 01:42:48,480 transcribed anywhere. Oh. 2011 01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:50,680 My God, dude. Just to see if anything 2012 01:42:50,680 --> 01:42:53,440 interesting has been said about Wix dude. 2013 01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:57,080 I know it's a bit, but I mean this, you know, ball. 2014 01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:00,000 Yeah. Well, and this is what I, this 2015 01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:03,920 is what I will say is that that Packers family night is not 2016 01:43:03,920 --> 01:43:06,480 representative of what they've been practicing for the last two 2017 01:43:06,480 --> 01:43:10,640 weeks. And maybe maybe that is how they 2018 01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:14,520 plan on playing in week one. And, and, and Wix really will 2019 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:19,440 run 30% of the snaps or whatever, but I would really bet 2020 01:43:19,440 --> 01:43:21,720 against it. I I think, I think that was just 2021 01:43:21,720 --> 01:43:23,320 kind of. Who's it come who? 2022 01:43:23,360 --> 01:43:26,240 Who's, you know, Pocketer if he's snaps coming out of. 2023 01:43:28,360 --> 01:43:31,320 Watson, Watson is going to be who it is because they just 2024 01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:35,440 can't trust him to play. You know, he's he's I think 2025 01:43:35,440 --> 01:43:37,720 Watson probably is the best out of all of them. 2026 01:43:38,040 --> 01:43:43,120 I like really he probably is the best, but you just he's got no 2027 01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:47,280 reliability. He he's been so unavailable in 2028 01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:51,240 his career in Green Bay. Any any thoughts on the safety 2029 01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:53,200 battle from from your Packers guy? 2030 01:43:53,720 --> 01:43:56,920 No, but they have a really interesting guy named Keyshawn 2031 01:43:56,920 --> 01:44:01,240 Nixon, who it's it's got this very cool story. 2032 01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:06,040 He was basically just a kick returner and he's such a good 2033 01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,360 kick returner. They were like Keyshawn Nixon. 2034 01:44:08,360 --> 01:44:10,640 Can you please learn ball? And he's like a starter on 2035 01:44:10,640 --> 01:44:12,840 defense now, which is kind of, I mean, it's kind of cool. 2036 01:44:13,000 --> 01:44:14,400 That is cool. Yeah. 2037 01:44:15,720 --> 01:44:17,120 All right, let me get the other tab up. 2038 01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:26,120 So this is where I would just go ahead and do what we need to do. 2039 01:44:29,640 --> 01:44:36,360 With Hoomst. I don't know why circling it 2040 01:44:36,360 --> 01:44:43,440 feels less likely it does. Yeah, I Karina, I I couldn't 2041 01:44:43,440 --> 01:44:46,720 agree more. What about where are you Sam? 2042 01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,840 Because I mean there's the other option by ADP. 2043 01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,800 We would be go AD Mitchell, but I've actually been flipping it. 2044 01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:56,120 Yeah, Judy would be the other one I'd throw. 2045 01:44:56,120 --> 01:44:57,760 I don't, I don't like AD Mitchell. 2046 01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:00,360 I think it's it's Judy or go all the way down to Downs for me. 2047 01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,280 Downs. I think we just get downs, Downs 2048 01:45:02,440 --> 01:45:04,480 because you're risking it a little bit by the ADP. 2049 01:45:04,480 --> 01:45:09,880 Our next pick is like 127. He's like 131. 2050 01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:12,800 So he should be there, but he might not be there and he's just 2051 01:45:12,800 --> 01:45:15,280 like such a smash with what we did in the stack. 2052 01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:21,040 I'm fine, fine with that. Yeah, I think like it was if if 2053 01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:23,200 it was up to me personally, I might try to take the risk. 2054 01:45:23,200 --> 01:45:26,880 But yeah, fucking $500 draft let's I I do think he's like the 2055 01:45:26,880 --> 01:45:29,560 best player if ADP was efficient. 2056 01:45:30,800 --> 01:45:33,280 Yeah. And then if like Mitchell falls 2057 01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:36,880 to you, you can take him or you can do other stuff. 2058 01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:41,480 Yeah. I would I personally, I 2059 01:45:41,480 --> 01:45:47,720 personally would love to have AD Mitchell and a $500 big dog, but 2060 01:45:47,720 --> 01:45:50,320 I do no ball. I mean as as evidenced by 2061 01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:54,920 watching packers.com videos about Dante V and Wicks earning 2062 01:45:54,920 --> 01:45:56,640 trust for Jordan Love in the red zone. 2063 01:45:57,880 --> 01:46:00,800 But all these receivers are like the same like down should I can 2064 01:46:00,800 --> 01:46:03,200 just like go here? So I'm just like I'm taking them 2065 01:46:03,200 --> 01:46:07,520 then if I get ID whatever. I agree with that. 2066 01:46:08,720 --> 01:46:12,560 It's just insane how miserable you feel when you don't have 4 2067 01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:15,000 wide receivers through 5 picks. It's like it's rough. 2068 01:46:15,000 --> 01:46:19,760 It's just crazy. Yeah, it it does kind of suck, 2069 01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:25,160 but I honestly think when we go back and we look at this tier of 2070 01:46:25,160 --> 01:46:29,040 wide receivers like Josh Palmer, Courtland Sutton, Shahid Dobbs, 2071 01:46:29,280 --> 01:46:33,440 Wicks Downs, I think there's going to be some some hits in 2072 01:46:33,440 --> 01:46:35,040 here. Like I, I don't agree with it 2073 01:46:35,040 --> 01:46:37,120 that like if you're taking wide receivers in this range over 2074 01:46:37,120 --> 01:46:40,640 running backs, like you're losing, like I think, I think 2075 01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:43,400 there's kind of intriguing wide receivers in this range. 2076 01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:46,360 Yeah, there's some intriguing guys and like the fact that you 2077 01:46:46,360 --> 01:46:48,920 can correlate with like Richardson Downs or you can go 2078 01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:53,520 Allen and get Samuel and Shakur, you know, whatever. 2079 01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:59,160 There's there's ways to like, you know, compound that win by 2080 01:46:59,160 --> 01:47:02,920 stacking. So I think that like builds like 2081 01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:06,120 this, you're just like, I really need to be right about Anthony 2082 01:47:06,120 --> 01:47:09,200 Richardson and he needs to bring along Josh Downs too. 2083 01:47:10,920 --> 01:47:14,480 That's but I mean, I think it's a smart way to do it like you're 2084 01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:19,720 the the most comfy way is to not need Josh Downs at, you know, 2085 01:47:19,720 --> 01:47:22,480 pick 114. Yeah. 2086 01:47:24,560 --> 01:47:27,320 And this is setting up great to be a Justin Fields team. 2087 01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:29,800 Oh. God, that's true. 2088 01:47:29,800 --> 01:47:31,720 I. Don't know about that. 2089 01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:36,440 All right, so Godder is an ADP faller. 2090 01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:39,720 Singletary is like a. Baller, yeah. 2091 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,680 One of these two teams is going to take Singletary for sure. 2092 01:47:43,680 --> 01:47:46,040 We're. Probably running back or Goddard 2093 01:47:46,080 --> 01:47:48,040 here. I would say like the next 2094 01:47:48,040 --> 01:47:52,120 receivers are like Mike Williams dots and like get like it's kind 2095 01:47:52,120 --> 01:47:54,880 of over. Always, always love my my fifth 2096 01:47:54,880 --> 01:47:59,600 year red shirt wide receiver prospect to have to get a an MRI 2097 01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:03,160 on their foot in training camp. That's just always, yeah, it's 2098 01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:04,600 always, it's always what you want. 2099 01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:10,200 Yeah, I'm, I'm actually, I'm kind of a Mike Williams got kind 2100 01:48:10,200 --> 01:48:12,400 of Mike Williams guy. I also don't mind Fryermuth 2101 01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:16,000 here. Definitely not I'd be Fryermuth. 2102 01:48:16,200 --> 01:48:21,760 Definitely not Mike Williams. OK, Schultz is also here. 2103 01:48:22,680 --> 01:48:26,800 We have the text. Of Dowdell, Oh, Dowdell, Dowdell 2104 01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:28,720 actually would be who I would take, but you know. 2105 01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,080 I mean, let's live a little, guys. 2106 01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:33,080 Yeah, let's live a. Little we have, we have the 2107 01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:36,800 running backroom where Dowdell doesn't need to be the starter 2108 01:48:36,800 --> 01:48:38,240 right away. Yeah. 2109 01:48:40,000 --> 01:48:41,960 Oh no, are we in bye week jail already? 2110 01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:43,600 Someone already commented on bye weeks. 2111 01:48:45,480 --> 01:48:45,920 What? What? 2112 01:48:45,920 --> 01:48:46,600 Bye week jail. Are we? 2113 01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:49,040 Oh, we were about, were we about to double up at tight end bye 2114 01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:50,000 weeks? No, we weren't. 2115 01:48:50,560 --> 01:48:53,080 People just they're so committed to the bye week bro bit. 2116 01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:54,000 Oh, we were. We were. 2117 01:48:54,000 --> 01:48:55,760 We were about to be in jail at tight end. 2118 01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:57,400 At fire and was. OK, OK. 2119 01:48:57,400 --> 01:49:01,040 Thank you, thank you, thank you. Shout out shout out to Jared. 2120 01:49:02,640 --> 01:49:05,240 Are we done at running back? I think we could. 2121 01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:06,240 Tackle. Let's just I. 2122 01:49:06,280 --> 01:49:11,000 Think Tackle on the 5th. We could be done if Zamir White 2123 01:49:11,000 --> 01:49:13,160 was Chase Brown. We could for sure be done. 2124 01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:18,720 But you know, that's fine. Name something best ball 2125 01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:21,040 streamers like to say more than we could be done at running. 2126 01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:23,160 Back. I was just thinking that I need 2127 01:49:23,160 --> 01:49:26,280 best, I need Pete's best ball video to be like, I'm pretty 2128 01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:29,160 sure I could be done at running back now if I want to. 2129 01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:32,720 If I want to, I could tackle another, but if I want I could 2130 01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:36,480 be done. It's like, OK, yeah, definitely. 2131 01:49:36,480 --> 01:49:39,480 We're we're we're done at running back, but we all know 2132 01:49:39,480 --> 01:49:40,680 you're taking Braylon out in the. 2133 01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:43,440 We're taking Braylon out, but we could be done. 2134 01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:49,440 Crane, what a heel turn for you on Braylon Allen. 2135 01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:52,840 From being like, from being like the biggest Izzy Abanacanda guy 2136 01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:54,880 to now being like Braylon Allen. Dude, he's a smash. 2137 01:49:55,200 --> 01:49:56,520 Davis, I've done this to you twice. 2138 01:49:56,760 --> 01:49:59,800 The heel turn I had, the ultimate heel turn is that not 2139 01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:02,680 only do I completely go in on the guy I was out on before, but 2140 01:50:02,680 --> 01:50:05,000 then I pick him for ADP Riser game. 2141 01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:09,640 Before you think too, I did it with Alan and Chase Brown. 2142 01:50:10,400 --> 01:50:15,480 Really unbelievable stuff. Get get knowns. 2143 01:50:15,880 --> 01:50:17,800 You're gonna turn heel. You gotta you gotta go full 2144 01:50:17,800 --> 01:50:18,520 heel. You gotta go. 2145 01:50:18,560 --> 01:50:20,440 You gotta go full bore. That's a good one. 2146 01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:25,440 Who's who's your favorite round 18 clique du jour? 2147 01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:27,040 Do you like Allen or estimate more? 2148 01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:28,840 Like what makes you feel more fun? 2149 01:50:29,720 --> 01:50:32,920 I I still like Allen. It's just so you know, just a 2150 01:50:32,920 --> 01:50:34,920 clean handcuff supposed to estimate. 2151 01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,120 It's it's just so clean. Yeah, I agree. 2152 01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:39,240 I like estimate just for a little. 2153 01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,600 I like estimate just for a little bit of the like, it's 2154 01:50:43,600 --> 01:50:47,800 then the season, Denver's 4:00 and 12:00 and they just want to 2155 01:50:47,800 --> 01:50:49,440 see what they have in younger players. 2156 01:50:49,440 --> 01:50:52,520 And Giovante's contract expires after the season. 2157 01:50:52,520 --> 01:50:55,000 Like where? Whereas with like, I still think 2158 01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:58,640 that estimated odds of winning the job straight up are like 2159 01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,800 pretty low, but they're like infinitely higher than a banner 2160 01:51:01,800 --> 01:51:06,200 than Brayla Allen's. Yeah, no, I agree. 2161 01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:08,640 I mean, Alan can't win the job with a healthy. 2162 01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:10,280 Breeze. So it's literally impossible. 2163 01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:13,320 Yeah, yeah. But he could get goal line 2164 01:51:13,320 --> 01:51:14,920 stuff. You could get some goal line 2165 01:51:14,920 --> 01:51:15,520 stuff. Yeah, all. 2166 01:51:18,160 --> 01:51:19,880 Right. So telling Braylon Allen no. 2167 01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,160 We talked the fire move thing. We got the bye week issue. 2168 01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:27,200 I don't want this to be a. Quarterback team or a three 2169 01:51:27,200 --> 01:51:29,840 tight end team. So I think we just can't take 2170 01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:33,600 him. Yeah, what else is there at wide 2171 01:51:33,600 --> 01:51:35,360 receiver? There's a, there's a wide. 2172 01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:36,360 I'm actually going to wait. Yeah. 2173 01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:38,640 So the wide receiver I would flow is Pearsall. 2174 01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:42,560 Yeah, just for vibe, just vibes based at all. 2175 01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:45,520 We, I think we got too. Yeah, this is the IU gets traded 2176 01:51:45,520 --> 01:51:48,280 to Cleveland for Mari. Yeah, we got Kittle. 2177 01:51:48,280 --> 01:51:50,800 Yeah, I mean, this this team. Plus like, we need a wide 2178 01:51:50,800 --> 01:51:53,360 receiver hit on this team. So Pierce All's kind of a smash. 2179 01:51:53,560 --> 01:51:55,960 I'm a little I'm a little worried about our wide. 2180 01:51:57,000 --> 01:52:01,080 Receivers, but but honestly, if like Pierce all like I think all 2181 01:52:01,080 --> 01:52:03,640 these guys could be big risers. Like if we get to the preseason 2182 01:52:03,640 --> 01:52:07,720 and Dobbs is just 80% of the snaps with the with Jordan Love, 2183 01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:11,240 he's going to go up around if IU gets traded, Pearsall's going to 2184 01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:14,120 go to at least here, probably probably higher, right? 2185 01:52:15,800 --> 01:52:18,400 Like I think this could end up looking good. 2186 01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:20,320 Buy clothes. Like what are the odds that you 2187 01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:21,880 gets traded now? Like it feels like. 2188 01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,320 Am I crazy to say it feels like 5050 at this point? 2189 01:52:24,960 --> 01:52:27,400 It feels like that to me, maybe even a little higher. 2190 01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:30,720 I don't know, Maybe I'm just like ruled by the internet's 2191 01:52:30,920 --> 01:52:33,320 hype, but. Like every account, every 2192 01:52:33,320 --> 01:52:35,760 account on Twitter. Who like knows someone who knows 2193 01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:39,800 someone around an NFL team is tweeting that Iuke is getting 2194 01:52:39,800 --> 01:52:44,320 traded to the Steelers? Well, like Daniel Raz this 2195 01:52:44,320 --> 01:52:49,920 morning shared, it was like, I forget who it was. 2196 01:52:49,920 --> 01:52:52,320 It was some beat reporter was like, I've been basically. 2197 01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:55,960 Yeah, Matt, Matt Mayoca said. I've stated for a while that I 2198 01:52:55,960 --> 01:52:58,680 don't see any scenario in which the 49ers would trade him. 2199 01:52:58,840 --> 01:53:02,280 Now I believe it's a legitimate option in a lot of ways for the 2200 01:53:02,280 --> 01:53:04,680 40. Niners for like a billion years. 2201 01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:09,040 You're around me forever. I mean, that's that's pretty 2202 01:53:09,040 --> 01:53:11,960 meaningful when people who are like, yeah, said this was a 2203 01:53:11,960 --> 01:53:14,120 definite no. And now I don't think that 2204 01:53:14,640 --> 01:53:17,040 something changed. Yeah. 2205 01:53:18,040 --> 01:53:24,720 Also, Royce Freeman went to the injury tent today so not to not 2206 01:53:24,720 --> 01:53:26,480 to. Hate on Tucker Tucker Kraft off 2207 01:53:26,480 --> 01:53:30,040 the PUP list. That's like low key, low key. 2208 01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:31,960 This is a big Tucker Kraft show, so. 2209 01:53:33,920 --> 01:53:37,960 Not great for Musgrave. Could could be bad for WEX too. 2210 01:53:38,200 --> 01:53:40,200 It's bad for the wide receivers if they're. 2211 01:53:40,640 --> 01:53:44,320 Yeah, we don't want 12. Green I just Green Bay like four 2212 01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:46,640 weeks, one through 5. Everyone's going to freak out. 2213 01:53:46,640 --> 01:53:48,320 Like why don't we draft all these guys so high? 2214 01:53:48,320 --> 01:53:50,560 Like no one's emerging. And then like that's. 2215 01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,240 So in the playoffs, they're going to some of them, like one 2216 01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:54,960 of them is going to win you the league. 2217 01:53:54,960 --> 01:53:55,960 That's how it's going to play out. 2218 01:53:55,960 --> 01:53:57,920 I don't know what's going to be, but that's what's going to 2219 01:53:57,920 --> 01:53:59,320 happen. They don't know what's going to 2220 01:53:59,320 --> 01:54:01,080 be. Yeah, No, they don't. 2221 01:54:03,080 --> 01:54:06,280 All right, let's get back to the draft here. 2222 01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:13,640 I mean, I know you guys hate, hate Datsun, but just with this 2223 01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:15,640 wide receiver room, he's yeah, he's gone. 2224 01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:16,400 OK? It doesn't matter. 2225 01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,960 There's a much better correlated pick for us to make. 2226 01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:22,880 Yeah, Deshawn. No. 2227 01:54:23,120 --> 01:54:31,680 Well, yeah, but a shorter, fiftier former Nebraska running 2228 01:54:31,680 --> 01:54:36,160 back. Elite targets per Outrun No. 2229 01:54:38,600 --> 01:54:43,400 Yeah, I don't know. The are are you not woke enough 2230 01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,920 to have the schedule memorized? We could take if. 2231 01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:48,080 We don't get Deshawn. I think we're going to get boxed 2232 01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:49,840 out of like a good. Well, we could take Kirk with 2233 01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,320 Bijan and we could then take Deshawn with. 2234 01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:54,840 I I I like Kirk. I like Kirk. 2235 01:54:56,440 --> 01:54:59,760 I like do we want to deshawn amari correlation a little? 2236 01:54:59,760 --> 01:55:01,280 Better, let's do, Let's do Deshawn. 2237 01:55:01,480 --> 01:55:03,600 Deshawn. Yeah, we could also try to push 2238 01:55:03,600 --> 01:55:05,080 it and who you want to. Delete it. 2239 01:55:05,080 --> 01:55:06,840 Is this bye week hell if we do this? 2240 01:55:07,400 --> 01:55:08,480 No, it's not. No, OK. 2241 01:55:09,160 --> 01:55:11,720 Oops. Oh, I fucked it up. 2242 01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:15,160 Oh shit. That's fine, That's fine. 2243 01:55:15,160 --> 01:55:15,760 That's. Actually. 2244 01:55:16,360 --> 01:55:18,840 I went to go look what the bye week was and I clicked the star. 2245 01:55:18,880 --> 01:55:19,880 Oh my God. Guys. 2246 01:55:20,280 --> 01:55:21,760 Hawkinson. Hawkinson. 2247 01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:27,640 That's so funny. Oh fuck, Ogenson will be back by 2248 01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:31,080 week nine and I like him with elite tight end anyway. 2249 01:55:31,400 --> 01:55:33,680 Yeah, that that that. No, that could have been bad. 2250 01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:35,080 That could have been. Like that could have been so 2251 01:55:35,080 --> 01:55:36,560 bad. That could have been terrible, 2252 01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:39,640 but it is so shout out I. Literally like almost passed out 2253 01:55:39,640 --> 01:55:40,960 there. I was like my flight flashed 2254 01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:42,640 before my eyes trying to click that star again. 2255 01:55:43,000 --> 01:55:44,000 I didn't get it. I didn't. 2256 01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:44,680 No. Here's why. 2257 01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:47,000 This is really smart. I was circling. 2258 01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:52,400 I think that's my key circle. Man, I think that's guys in the 2259 01:55:52,520 --> 01:55:54,320 queue. Totally fine pick. 2260 01:55:55,120 --> 01:55:59,400 So 10:00 and 12:00, yeah, we're good. 2261 01:56:00,120 --> 01:56:05,880 Maybe put Justin Fields in the queue just to kind of monitor. 2262 01:56:06,640 --> 01:56:08,280 I don't think he needs after what I just did. 2263 01:56:08,360 --> 01:56:09,320 He doesn't need to be in the queue. 2264 01:56:10,280 --> 01:56:13,680 The queue needs to be 15. I mean, honestly now, honestly 2265 01:56:13,680 --> 01:56:16,560 now that we've passed round thirteen, I think we are firmly 2266 01:56:16,560 --> 01:56:21,600 in the field zone for my risk tolerance personally, but I get. 2267 01:56:21,760 --> 01:56:23,160 It I just don't. I don't really get. 2268 01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:27,040 I like drafting fields now I think in this format like. 2269 01:56:29,040 --> 01:56:31,280 I don't talk, it's actually on this. 2270 01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:33,640 Team Justin Fields already went. Let's go. 2271 01:56:33,720 --> 01:56:36,080 Thank God. OK, here's the deal. 2272 01:56:36,120 --> 01:56:39,160 Here's the deal, Sam. When it's easier to advance, you 2273 01:56:39,160 --> 01:56:41,480 actually should be embracing more variants. 2274 01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:45,400 You actually should be like if it's if it's you don't have to 2275 01:56:45,400 --> 01:56:50,080 have Puka and Kyron and George Pickens 60 burger and Amari 60 2276 01:56:50,080 --> 01:56:52,520 burger to advance. You actually should be like 2277 01:56:52,520 --> 01:56:54,080 doing weirder shit. You should. 2278 01:56:54,080 --> 01:56:57,080 You should have weirder combos. No, you winning your league 2279 01:56:57,080 --> 01:56:59,600 becomes more important because there's like less. 2280 01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:02,280 You don't need to hit the nuts late season. 2281 01:57:02,280 --> 01:57:05,280 So just like getting to the dance makes more of an impact. 2282 01:57:07,360 --> 01:57:09,200 I think we're both kind of saying the same thing. 2283 01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:11,680 I think what, what David's saying is that it's easier to 2284 01:57:11,680 --> 01:57:14,600 advance in 15 and 16. So I can see an argument for 2285 01:57:14,600 --> 01:57:17,240 that of like. But I, I still think I saw with 2286 01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:21,560 Crane that I think Justin Fields is like a large I, I keep. 2287 01:57:21,640 --> 01:57:23,680 I feel like I've said this five times, but he's a large field 2288 01:57:23,680 --> 01:57:25,720 play to me. I think we got to go Deshaun 2289 01:57:25,720 --> 01:57:26,040 here. Right. 2290 01:57:26,040 --> 01:57:27,680 Look at that. I mean, Deshaun Watson false was 2291 01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:29,360 like that's. Why you push? 2292 01:57:30,480 --> 01:57:33,680 That's why you push quarterback. So like should I click here to 2293 01:57:33,680 --> 01:57:38,240 check his bye week? Yeah, that's the bye week 2294 01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:39,920 button. He's he's bye week 10. 2295 01:57:41,080 --> 01:57:43,360 Yeah, we're good. I like. 2296 01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:47,160 I like that a lot. That worked out pretty well. 2297 01:57:47,160 --> 01:57:53,080 Guys, I just think that that Deshawn Amari ceiling is is 2298 01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:55,120 really fun when he when Deshawn goes that late. 2299 01:57:57,040 --> 01:58:01,080 All right, we got AI got to tell a story about about baby and 2300 01:58:01,080 --> 01:58:03,320 this is this is a pack that we made on chip chasing. 2301 01:58:03,880 --> 01:58:06,080 We got to talk about our our daughters when we draft Deshawn 2302 01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,520 Watson. What you got? 2303 01:58:09,640 --> 01:58:11,720 Well, she loves when I pretend to drop her. 2304 01:58:11,960 --> 01:58:15,800 So I, I get her like this and then I like go this and but I, 2305 01:58:15,920 --> 01:58:18,360 but I like look, I'm we're like looking each other in the eyes 2306 01:58:18,360 --> 01:58:22,120 and I go like, like I, I actually tried. 2307 01:58:23,120 --> 01:58:25,960 She loves it. She cracks up. 2308 01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:28,320 She thinks it's the funniest shit ever. 2309 01:58:28,640 --> 01:58:31,120 And then she like kind of kicks legs if I don't, if I don't do 2310 01:58:31,120 --> 01:58:32,880 it for us to like kick her legs to make me do it again. 2311 01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:35,000 That's awesome. Yeah. 2312 01:58:37,120 --> 01:58:39,960 That's pretty good. My niece would hate that. 2313 01:58:39,960 --> 01:58:43,560 She's so she she's not about the roughhouse life. 2314 01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:46,720 The nephews would be into it, the nephews would be into it. 2315 01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:48,240 But she would be like, no, I'm out. 2316 01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:54,280 No chance. A bench press her. 2317 01:58:54,360 --> 01:58:56,920 We were taking Christmas family pictures and I was like, come 2318 01:58:56,920 --> 01:58:58,640 here. And she was shouldering her 2319 01:58:58,720 --> 01:59:00,240 shoulder, pressing her over my head. 2320 01:59:00,240 --> 01:59:02,320 She was like, absolutely not. This is the worst thing that's 2321 01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:11,840 ever happened to me. Do you guys want to do a third 2322 01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:14,000 quarterback or a third tight end or are we just done? 2323 01:59:14,880 --> 01:59:16,160 I think we're good at quarterback. 2324 01:59:17,000 --> 01:59:20,680 Yeah, tight, I'd consider like eighteenth round tight end. 2325 01:59:20,680 --> 01:59:23,880 I think quarterback I'm pretty good with being done. 2326 01:59:24,360 --> 01:59:26,920 Yeah, I think an 18th round tight end is totally fine. 2327 01:59:30,080 --> 01:59:32,520 We could. We also don't have like any 2328 01:59:32,520 --> 01:59:36,840 other stacks set up. So there's no, I mean like 2329 01:59:36,840 --> 01:59:38,960 literally like other stack is like Aiden O'Connell or 2330 01:59:38,960 --> 01:59:41,600 something. Our running backs don't have 2331 01:59:41,600 --> 01:59:46,560 that, Yeah. We probably need like I think to 2332 01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:50,640 wide receivers in the next three rounds is probably smart just 2333 01:59:50,640 --> 01:59:53,640 given given that we got off to a slow start like we we don't want 2334 01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:55,800 to be getting into the total 0 as a wide receiver, I don't 2335 01:59:55,800 --> 01:59:58,440 think which maybe we already are, but. 2336 01:59:58,480 --> 02:00:03,360 There are no total zeros here. So receivers that you guys like 2337 02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:08,000 here, I would also know Antonio Gibson autric estimate that 2338 02:00:08,000 --> 02:00:10,640 running back Jonnu Smith's also here which. 2339 02:00:10,640 --> 02:00:13,560 Is yeah, these wide receivers, once Wandale goes and Mims goes. 2340 02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:17,520 Pretty gross, yeah. Honestly, I'd be fine with with 2341 02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:19,280 Jonnu. No, I think we take. 2342 02:00:19,360 --> 02:00:22,960 I think we take estimate. Estimate OK. 2343 02:00:23,320 --> 02:00:24,680 Or Gibson. I like Gibson. 2344 02:00:24,680 --> 02:00:27,960 The the beats. I, I, it doesn't matter. 2345 02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:29,720 It doesn't matter. They're both kind of the same. 2346 02:00:29,720 --> 02:00:34,720 The Beats The Beats seem to be optimistic about Gibson 2347 02:00:34,720 --> 02:00:37,240 basically being who exactly who Antonio Gibson has been just on 2348 02:00:37,240 --> 02:00:39,160 the Patriots. And you get the contingent back. 2349 02:00:39,200 --> 02:00:42,240 Yeah, I I like Gibson, but. We're yeah, I'd probably, I'd 2350 02:00:42,240 --> 02:00:47,080 probably lean, lean Gibson, but. Do you have, do you have a wide 2351 02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:48,480 receiver that you really like here or not? 2352 02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:54,840 No, no. OK, Really feels like one of the 2353 02:00:54,840 --> 02:00:57,960 craziest things in fantasy football to me, that DeMarcus 2354 02:00:57,960 --> 02:01:01,080 Robinson and DJ Shark are now like, people are like coveting 2355 02:01:01,080 --> 02:01:02,520 them. People are like, oh man. 2356 02:01:03,240 --> 02:01:06,240 Dude, Jordan Whittington is making noise like Robinson might 2357 02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:07,680 lose that job over the course of the year. 2358 02:01:08,640 --> 02:01:12,680 I think it's it's it's Jover before it, but started, you 2359 02:01:12,680 --> 02:01:21,800 know, like second, the 2nd that that Jordan Rodrigue starts 2360 02:01:21,800 --> 02:01:24,560 writing about how much Jordan Whittington is relishing loving 2361 02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:26,040 run blocking. It's done. 2362 02:01:26,240 --> 02:01:29,120 It's over, Yeah. Over for DeMarcus Robinson. 2363 02:01:29,320 --> 02:01:31,880 There's no if, if DeMarcus Robinson is going to go out 2364 02:01:31,880 --> 02:01:34,560 there or if Whittington's going to go out there and be Gabe 2365 02:01:34,560 --> 02:01:37,960 Davis. Like it's, it's done, it's over. 2366 02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:42,440 I I took Jordan Whittington on my bulldog, the $75 single 2367 02:01:42,440 --> 02:01:46,480 entry. I mean, I don't mind that at 2368 02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:48,800 all. I've taken Jordan Whittington 2369 02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:50,400 with Stafford. I think it was probably like a 2370 02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:51,760 slow puppy or something, but I've done it. 2371 02:01:51,920 --> 02:01:54,760 I think it's totally fine. The Rams do not love DeMarcus 2372 02:01:54,800 --> 02:01:57,280 Robinson see people just they invent these narratives like oh 2373 02:01:57,280 --> 02:02:01,040 the Rams love DeMarcus Robin. He's making like no money and he 2374 02:02:01,040 --> 02:02:03,760 played better than Tutu out well like congratulations to him. 2375 02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:07,880 Yeah, I mean he he surprised expectations down the the 2376 02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:10,200 stretch think they they appreciate his run blocking, 2377 02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:11,840 they use him around the goal line. 2378 02:02:12,600 --> 02:02:15,960 They don't like dislike him, but I don't If a rookie wide 2379 02:02:15,960 --> 02:02:19,400 receiver starts making noise like they're DeMarcus Robinson, 2380 02:02:19,400 --> 02:02:22,080 it's not going to. I just feel like people somehow 2381 02:02:22,080 --> 02:02:26,080 mind wipe themselves from the fact that he played for six 2382 02:02:26,080 --> 02:02:29,280 years with Mahomes and a year with Lamar and a year with 2383 02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:32,480 Stafford and they only ever realized he was a real player 2384 02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:38,280 six weeks ago. Like, it's just like what? 2385 02:02:39,320 --> 02:02:41,720 This is like how Courage thought Rico Dowdell was a second year 2386 02:02:41,760 --> 02:02:43,840 player. He's been in the NFL since 2019. 2387 02:02:43,840 --> 02:02:47,400 Yeah. But he wasn't playing with, he 2388 02:02:47,400 --> 02:02:48,960 wasn't Mahomes. His #1 receiver. 2389 02:02:48,960 --> 02:02:53,840 Dude, come be some slack. You know what I think Zach Meyer 2390 02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:55,520 is right. It's it's about it's, it's 2391 02:02:55,520 --> 02:03:01,560 because people are so spooked from the from the puka Kyra and 2392 02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:02,920 stuff. They're like anyone that's 2393 02:03:02,960 --> 02:03:05,320 anyone on the ramp. I got to draft Davis Allen to 2394 02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:06,400 Sean McVay. Likes him. 2395 02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:08,520 Whittington would be the puka, yeah. 2396 02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:12,440 It's just strange to me. It is strange the the shark 2397 02:03:12,440 --> 02:03:14,040 stuff. I mean, look, we we did that on 2398 02:03:14,040 --> 02:03:15,520 the show last week. We don't have to get into it, 2399 02:03:15,520 --> 02:03:17,880 but that's. Damn, I apologize for what's 2400 02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:22,600 about to happen because we need a receiver here, right? 2401 02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:25,600 Yeah. I was thinking one of the the 2402 02:03:25,600 --> 02:03:28,920 Giants guys there's. One, the Giants guys will be 2403 02:03:28,920 --> 02:03:30,760 there with our next pick. There's one man for the job 2404 02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:35,320 here. Yeah, I mean, I think, you know 2405 02:03:35,320 --> 02:03:37,040 the other thing with the big dog, you, you got to get your 2406 02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:38,360 guys. You know, you can't just sit 2407 02:03:38,360 --> 02:03:40,160 around and wait for for dudes to come to you. 2408 02:03:40,440 --> 02:03:43,920 There's a there's a receiver you think perfectly fits the team, 2409 02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:45,840 then you should just probably grab them. 2410 02:03:45,840 --> 02:03:47,320 What? Someone might call them 2411 02:03:47,800 --> 02:03:52,960 cromulent. So you got a search form. 2412 02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:58,400 You got a search form. Oh, he's only. 2413 02:03:58,440 --> 02:04:00,400 You know what? He's only 12 picks ahead of 80. 2414 02:04:00,400 --> 02:04:02,360 Picks. I was going to say like the we 2415 02:04:02,360 --> 02:04:05,000 have now the Fonzie. Fonzie has his skis on. 2416 02:04:05,200 --> 02:04:09,440 You know, like you can't get Greg Dorks the 18th round. 2417 02:04:09,640 --> 02:04:12,320 Anymore, Sam, how much do you hate this? 2418 02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:14,400 Are you all right with I? Would like do Luke McCaffrey 2419 02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:16,200 over him but. Yeah. 2420 02:04:17,800 --> 02:04:24,480 Live a little. I hate this so much. 2421 02:04:31,120 --> 02:04:34,720 I apologize ahead of time. Anytime you can take like a 5 2422 02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:39,440 foot six like career 14% targets for outrun player you just you 2423 02:04:39,440 --> 02:04:42,280 got. It he just went after Andre 2424 02:04:42,280 --> 02:04:46,840 Yoshi, Vas and Troy Franklin. That's the economy that you were 2425 02:04:46,840 --> 02:04:49,880 in right now. I just, there's like 100% chance 2426 02:04:49,880 --> 02:04:51,240 that we know what's happening, you know? 2427 02:04:52,760 --> 02:05:02,560 Yeah. Aw, man, full recovery, full 2428 02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:04,400 recovery. Every team, you know, you're 2429 02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:07,360 allowed to have more dead roster spots in these types of formats, 2430 02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:12,240 so that's OK. I mean, he's a starter man. 2431 02:05:12,240 --> 02:05:15,040 This dude is a starting receiver, isn't Luke. 2432 02:05:15,040 --> 02:05:17,040 McCaffrey and is Greg I. Don't know. 2433 02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:21,040 I actually don't know for sure. I think he is, but also Luke 2434 02:05:21,040 --> 02:05:22,520 McCaffrey is a converted quarterback. 2435 02:05:22,520 --> 02:05:26,320 Like I is he anything? This dude, George, I mean, I 2436 02:05:26,320 --> 02:05:29,960 know OK the numbers I don't. Think George just like I, I just 2437 02:05:29,960 --> 02:05:32,280 feel like we like memory hold him into this like amazing 2438 02:05:32,280 --> 02:05:33,920 target earner, like I don't know. 2439 02:05:34,760 --> 02:05:37,120 I don't listen, man. No, it's not a memory hole. 2440 02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:39,920 It's just he is an amazing target earner when he's on the 2441 02:05:39,920 --> 02:05:41,440 field, but he just doesn't get on. 2442 02:05:41,440 --> 02:05:43,440 He just doesn't get on the. No, like targets for Outrun 2443 02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:45,600 literally accounts for when you're on the field. 2444 02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:46,560 And like, he's not. I don't. 2445 02:05:46,560 --> 02:05:49,800 Want to hear it I don't want. To hear it, I really don't. 2446 02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:54,680 But Sam, shut up. I'm workshopping this argument 2447 02:05:54,680 --> 02:05:56,680 that I don't believe in at all, but. 2448 02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:04,520 Yeah, man. Yeah, Dorch was standing right 2449 02:06:04,520 --> 02:06:06,680 next to Kyler in their team photo. 2450 02:06:08,720 --> 02:06:09,840 What more do I have to say? I mean. 2451 02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:13,960 You could say a few more things if you. 2452 02:06:13,960 --> 02:06:16,480 Wanted I, I mean, I think, I just think it's pretty obvious 2453 02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:19,680 he's the starting slot wide receiver for like the 11th best 2454 02:06:19,680 --> 02:06:22,880 passing offense in the NFL, Probably a lot better of a 2455 02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:24,720 passing offense than the Washington Commanders. 2456 02:06:26,920 --> 02:06:30,400 The weird so like, I mean, I think Davis, as we've 2457 02:06:30,400 --> 02:06:33,680 established, you know, ball like to me, Dorch is a a, you know, 2458 02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:37,680 ball guy where like I'm I just like having seen him out there. 2459 02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:40,600 Like I just don't believe that these numbers can be real. 2460 02:06:41,160 --> 02:06:43,920 Like I don't know if it's like I I haven't done the subset of the 2461 02:06:43,920 --> 02:06:46,200 games where he started. That's the thing. 2462 02:06:46,280 --> 02:06:50,040 It feels to me like he gets he's running empty routes when he's 2463 02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:52,720 not starting or something. As long as it starts Robin. 2464 02:06:53,720 --> 02:06:56,960 Robin Wilson seems OK. What about Juwan Johnson? 2465 02:06:56,960 --> 02:06:58,560 I was. Going to say that I was going to 2466 02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:01,800 say Juwan. Get that third tight end taken 2467 02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:03,480 care of that we talked about. Yeah. 2468 02:07:05,320 --> 02:07:06,960 Yeah, OK. Do what you want. 2469 02:07:07,480 --> 02:07:11,800 So the the thing Crane that you're correct correctly 2470 02:07:11,800 --> 02:07:14,000 pointing out is that it's hard to parse out games for like 2471 02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:16,840 George came in as the starter. George came in because there 2472 02:07:16,840 --> 02:07:20,520 were like someone got injured in the game, like all that stuff. 2473 02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:27,920 It's all it's all hard to parse out, but if you just do like the 2474 02:07:27,920 --> 02:07:30,800 very basic stuff of just sorting by games where he's played over 2475 02:07:30,800 --> 02:07:35,720 65% of the snaps, he averages like over like 11 1/2 PPR points 2476 02:07:35,720 --> 02:07:40,000 per game in those. Yeah, I'm trying to find Greg 2477 02:07:40,000 --> 02:07:43,600 Dorch's highest PPR finish ever right now. 2478 02:07:43,640 --> 02:07:47,680 Is it 11.75? No, it's probably like, I bet 2479 02:07:47,680 --> 02:07:51,080 it, I bet it's probably like 17.3 or something. 2480 02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:59,280 It's actually so he had 22 and 19 and 2022 also 17 and 16. 2481 02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:03,440 So you guys definitely are right that there's something to him 2482 02:08:03,440 --> 02:08:07,440 having like a target ceiling even though the per round stuff 2483 02:08:07,760 --> 02:08:10,440 show him. I think it's cuz like he but I 2484 02:08:10,440 --> 02:08:13,000 guess there's. Yeah, but those are those are 2485 02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:15,560 those were dog shit Cardinals wide receivers. 2486 02:08:15,560 --> 02:08:18,120 Like absolute garbage out there with them. 2487 02:08:18,120 --> 02:08:21,680 Like, come on, Rondale Moore is like playing with the 4th. 2488 02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:23,800 He's not even catching facets from Michael Pennix in the 2489 02:08:23,800 --> 02:08:27,200 Falcons camp. Dude, he's you want to talk 2490 02:08:27,200 --> 02:08:28,080 about. You want to talk? 2491 02:08:28,360 --> 02:08:29,720 About. That's a funny way to put. 2492 02:08:29,960 --> 02:08:34,120 It it literally like he's literally they they the the 2493 02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:36,840 athletic was like, yeah, so kind of the first team in the second 2494 02:08:36,840 --> 02:08:39,680 team practice on a higher field and then everyone else goes down 2495 02:08:39,680 --> 02:08:42,160 to a literal lower field. You're literally beneath 2496 02:08:42,160 --> 02:08:45,200 everyone else, and they're like, yeah, Rondell's walking down to 2497 02:08:45,200 --> 02:08:49,320 the backup field. Oh, man, oh man. 2498 02:08:49,440 --> 02:08:52,240 All right, all right, let's go. Let's figure out our last pick 2499 02:08:52,240 --> 02:08:53,480 here. Couple names that threw out 2500 02:08:54,200 --> 02:08:56,960 Odell for the Cleveland, Miami stuff all. 2501 02:08:57,240 --> 02:08:59,280 Right veto. Don't have to type that one in. 2502 02:08:59,320 --> 02:09:02,080 Go ahead. Darius Darius Slayton for the 2503 02:09:02,680 --> 02:09:04,200 Colts stuff. Slayton. 2504 02:09:04,680 --> 02:09:07,480 I don't love it. He's now, I mean. 2505 02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:09,560 How about? Hyatt again. 2506 02:09:09,560 --> 02:09:10,840 He's already Hyatt's gone. Ray. 2507 02:09:10,840 --> 02:09:14,160 Ray McLeod, I guess. Absolutely not. 2508 02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:16,520 What about Roman? Wilson, Roman Wilson, just as a 2509 02:09:16,520 --> 02:09:18,760 bet on him. He's a little Steelers. 2510 02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:21,200 He's right now. Oh yeah, Oh yeah, I didn't 2511 02:09:21,200 --> 02:09:22,440 realize he was still going to be here. 2512 02:09:22,480 --> 02:09:24,520 I think he's the best. Like he doesn't get sniped. 2513 02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:28,320 I I don't mind the Slayton pick though. 2514 02:09:29,320 --> 02:09:31,280 Yeah, Slayton's probably. Better, I mean, I was just 2515 02:09:31,280 --> 02:09:34,960 thinking that like I I think Tillman in correlation is still. 2516 02:09:35,080 --> 02:09:43,160 Tillman. Tillman, Alec Pierce, you guys, 2517 02:09:43,360 --> 02:09:45,040 you guys. Elijah, is Elijah Moore still 2518 02:09:45,040 --> 02:09:47,520 there? I'm. 2519 02:09:47,920 --> 02:09:49,640 Not recovered from his concussion yet. 2520 02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:53,160 I think we, I think Cedric Tillman over Roman Wilson is 2521 02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,680 just like. What about Slate and versus 2522 02:09:55,680 --> 02:10:00,840 Wilson I'd. Probably go Roman Wilson if you 2523 02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:02,840 guys are good with that. Sure. 2524 02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:09,480 OK. Yeah, just see, I mean, like, I 2525 02:10:09,480 --> 02:10:11,440 don't, I'm not really into Roman Wilson as a prospect or 2526 02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:15,320 whatever, but at some point like round wait, early round 3 rookie 2527 02:10:15,320 --> 02:10:20,400 in the 18th round, just like don't, I don't want to overthink 2528 02:10:20,400 --> 02:10:23,640 it that much. We also kind of played like we 2529 02:10:23,640 --> 02:10:26,920 kind of got the there's a win in here with the IU trade. 2530 02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:30,200 Either we got eighteenth round Roman Wilson, or we got Kittle 2531 02:10:30,200 --> 02:10:32,120 and Piersol. Yeah. 2532 02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:35,600 So no matter what the the IU trade's going to work out. 2533 02:10:36,440 --> 02:10:42,440 Ship it all right, I mean, that wasn't our best team, but also 2534 02:10:42,440 --> 02:10:47,280 is not our work. It's just it's it is so crazy 2535 02:10:47,360 --> 02:10:51,000 when you do that double elite onesie, how thin you get it. 2536 02:10:51,000 --> 02:10:52,680 Wide receiver, you're just like, shit, man. 2537 02:10:52,680 --> 02:10:56,200 I got nothing. I think we dug out really well 2538 02:10:56,200 --> 02:10:57,240 though. I mean Dobbs is like. 2539 02:10:57,680 --> 02:11:00,680 Clear. Starter downs is a good player 2540 02:11:00,880 --> 02:11:04,920 correlated pure Sol could be a huge hit with the IU trade. 2541 02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:08,400 Pure Sol is pure Sol is at least a sexy 0, whereas Roman Wilson 2542 02:11:08,400 --> 02:11:11,200 is an ugly 0. So right, It's just like so. 2543 02:11:11,400 --> 02:11:14,600 We we took both. We took both actually. 2544 02:11:14,600 --> 02:11:17,520 That was probably bad. Wilson and and pure Sol probably 2545 02:11:17,520 --> 02:11:20,040 are like in this like weird matrix of time we're living in 2546 02:11:20,040 --> 02:11:21,360 are probably negatively. Correlated. 2547 02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:22,480 No, they are negatively correlated. 2548 02:11:22,480 --> 02:11:24,080 But we got such a cheap price on Wilson. 2549 02:11:24,080 --> 02:11:25,040 It's almost. It's like. 2550 02:11:25,200 --> 02:11:28,280 It's like so either way, we win. Either way, we win. 2551 02:11:28,280 --> 02:11:31,240 And it's a format where you just got it, you know, you got to get 2552 02:11:31,240 --> 02:11:33,360 through smaller pots. It's not like the Mastiff where 2553 02:11:33,360 --> 02:11:35,320 you're just trying to like advance no matter what, but it's 2554 02:11:35,320 --> 02:11:36,440 still. Right. 2555 02:11:36,720 --> 02:11:39,520 Yeah, yeah. I think like also three wide 2556 02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:42,520 receivers through seven or whatever isn't great, but 2557 02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:45,120 there's a difference when you do it and you get 3 wide receivers 2558 02:11:45,120 --> 02:11:47,920 in the first four rounds versus if you get like one in three, 2559 02:11:47,920 --> 02:11:50,720 one in six and one in seven, like you're really screwed 2560 02:11:50,720 --> 02:11:53,480 there. You got Devante Adams, Stephane 2561 02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:56,320 Diggs and Amari Cooper. If those guys, if those guys 2562 02:11:56,320 --> 02:11:58,160 hit, we should be, should be all right. 2563 02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:02,600 All right, here. I'll check out the team here. 2564 02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:05,440 So we got Anthony Richardson, Shawn Watson, Bijan Robinson, 2565 02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:09,720 James Connor, Zamir White, Rico Dowdell, Antonio Gibson, Damonte 2566 02:12:09,720 --> 02:12:13,720 Adams, Stefan Diggs, Mari Cooper, Romeo Dobbs, Josh Downs, 2567 02:12:13,720 --> 02:12:14,640 Ricky Pearstall. Yeah. 2568 02:12:15,000 --> 02:12:19,120 That's why. The Steven Rolf, Greg Dorch, 2569 02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:23,280 though, and Roman Wilson. That let me tell you, that room 2570 02:12:23,280 --> 02:12:25,760 needed a Xavier Legette. We we, we needed. 2571 02:12:25,760 --> 02:12:29,760 We needed like we needed. Yeah, Ricky Pearsall is 2572 02:12:30,040 --> 02:12:31,840 hopefully Ricky. Pearsall is hopefully the 2573 02:12:31,840 --> 02:12:34,520 legette, yeah, with how you gets traded. 2574 02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:40,640 And if he doesn't get traded, Broman Wilson, George Kittle to 2575 02:12:40,640 --> 02:12:42,760 Jackets and Juan Johnson. Thoughts. 2576 02:12:42,760 --> 02:12:46,520 Thoughts guys? I I actually, I like it quite a 2577 02:12:46,520 --> 02:12:47,600 bit. Obviously wide receiver is a 2578 02:12:47,600 --> 02:12:51,360 little thinner than would want to play it, but yeah, if I could 2579 02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:54,640 take one thing back, I think we pass on Richardson, we grab like 2580 02:12:54,800 --> 02:13:00,640 Keenan, yeah, Keenan or whoever, and then we get CJ Stroud in 2581 02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:04,560 like the 70s. But yeah, I still like it. 2582 02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:08,840 The team it, it looks better with AB Mitchell and Downs. 2583 02:13:09,600 --> 02:13:12,480 You know what I mean? Like it just if it if it worked 2584 02:13:12,480 --> 02:13:15,840 out, yeah. Yeah, but I like taking downs 2585 02:13:15,840 --> 02:13:18,160 1st and then you play to get Mitchell I hate. 2586 02:13:18,160 --> 02:13:21,400 No I I agree because this theoretically should be a more 2587 02:13:21,400 --> 02:13:25,040 plugged in room that knows about a Mitchell being behind Alec 2588 02:13:25,040 --> 02:13:26,640 Pierce right now. Like even though that's not the 2589 02:13:26,640 --> 02:13:29,080 way that ADP has. Its Downs was not coming back to 2590 02:13:29,120 --> 02:13:31,560 us in this room. There's no chance. 2591 02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:33,560 Yeah, I think you're right. Yeah, a bunch of people who 2592 02:13:33,560 --> 02:13:37,440 subscribe to ceiling signals and know about the the Chris Ballard 2593 02:13:37,440 --> 02:13:40,400 quotes about Downs. Yeah, the TJ Hawkinson pick was 2594 02:13:40,400 --> 02:13:44,000 really the the genius pick. Yeah, I mean, you know, I think 2595 02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:45,200 it really ties the room together. 2596 02:13:46,160 --> 02:13:48,840 I was just pure in confidence. But hey, sometimes. 2597 02:13:49,240 --> 02:13:51,920 Sometimes pure incompetence is what you need to succeed A. 2598 02:13:51,920 --> 02:13:54,800 Lot of a. Lot of American history proves 2599 02:13:54,800 --> 02:13:59,000 that. Pure in confidence, that's going 2600 02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:02,800 to be the my separating factor in this in this tournament. 2601 02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:05,320 It's going to be the name of my premium sub stack after this 2602 02:14:05,320 --> 02:14:13,240 wins. All right, guys, that was fun in 2603 02:14:13,240 --> 02:14:17,400 terms of ADP chasing stuff. We will be back next Monday. 2604 02:14:17,400 --> 02:14:21,840 I'm actually going to be out and I think tentatively Gretch is 2605 02:14:21,840 --> 02:14:23,960 stepping in with the two of you guys, so. 2606 02:14:23,960 --> 02:14:26,120 But also but also maybe not so it might. 2607 02:14:26,160 --> 02:14:28,960 Yeah, but also maybe not. He gave, he gave, he gave me 2608 02:14:28,960 --> 02:14:32,280 like the most confusing like maybe I'll I'll do it answer, 2609 02:14:32,280 --> 02:14:36,680 but we'll see on that one. Then we have Rotopat the week 2610 02:14:36,680 --> 02:14:38,240 after that. So look forward to that one. 2611 02:14:38,720 --> 02:14:42,280 That should be a lot of fun. I don't even know what he's 2612 02:14:42,280 --> 02:14:43,760 going to think about this program. 2613 02:14:43,760 --> 02:14:46,160 Like if you showed him that Colts infographic. 2614 02:14:46,960 --> 02:14:50,240 I don't know. We we had him on last year and 2615 02:14:51,600 --> 02:14:53,560 he was great. But yeah, it's it's always good. 2616 02:14:54,080 --> 02:14:57,120 I really like and we should have done more this last year or this 2617 02:14:57,120 --> 02:14:59,160 year. Like getting people who are not 2618 02:14:59,360 --> 02:15:02,160 like fully best ball brained, like getting their opinions is 2619 02:15:02,160 --> 02:15:05,520 actually like very refreshing and helps like you come up to, 2620 02:15:05,880 --> 02:15:07,760 you know, out of the water to breathe a little bit. 2621 02:15:07,760 --> 02:15:09,880 So it it's going to be really good to get his takes. 2622 02:15:10,040 --> 02:15:13,840 He actually called the the Cooper Cup target Cliff last 2623 02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:17,040 year very accurately. So we'll see if he's got he did. 2624 02:15:18,000 --> 02:15:20,480 Yeah, he called that one. But anyways, that's all. 2625 02:15:20,840 --> 02:15:22,560 We'll do we. Are we not doing risers? 2626 02:15:24,360 --> 02:15:26,320 What do you mean? Our game are. 2627 02:15:26,920 --> 02:15:29,080 You are you doing the literal? The literal game? 2628 02:15:29,080 --> 02:15:30,640 What? Do you? 2629 02:15:30,640 --> 02:15:32,200 I thought you meant like doing risers. 2630 02:15:32,200 --> 02:15:33,960 Like, like we haven't done it yet. 2631 02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:37,520 Like ADP risers. Yeah, let's, let's do our game. 2632 02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:41,400 I I need to come up with? OK, I'll go first, Justin 2633 02:15:41,480 --> 02:15:43,400 Fields. Damn it. 2634 02:15:43,800 --> 02:15:46,600 Justin Fields I'll take Justin Fields as an ADP riser. 2635 02:15:46,600 --> 02:15:49,560 That's. My move that. 2636 02:15:49,680 --> 02:15:53,360 That one's good. This'll so obviously I'm 2637 02:15:53,360 --> 02:15:57,160 cheating a little bit, but how high do you think he how high do 2638 02:15:57,160 --> 02:16:00,160 you think he actually gets? I I think without a definitive 2639 02:16:00,160 --> 02:16:03,880 thing one way or the other, he gets up to like Kurt Cousins 2640 02:16:04,520 --> 02:16:07,320 ish. And if they say he's starting 2641 02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:09,960 the QB, eight people from the big board. 2642 02:16:09,960 --> 02:16:12,600 Are going to get there if he's going to be undraftable. 2643 02:16:13,600 --> 02:16:16,160 If the QB, eight people from the big board get there, I'm 2644 02:16:16,160 --> 02:16:18,360 actually just retiring. From I was going to say that 2645 02:16:18,360 --> 02:16:21,200 might be enough for me to just do something else because 2646 02:16:21,200 --> 02:16:24,920 anything that's that provably wrong to get there, I might be 2647 02:16:24,920 --> 02:16:28,080 like, you know what, man, maybe I would be a good insurance 2648 02:16:28,080 --> 02:16:33,680 salesman. Even I was out on that, you 2649 02:16:33,680 --> 02:16:35,280 know, that was, that was outrageous. 2650 02:16:35,799 --> 02:16:38,559 That was absurd, Oh my. God, I just put Justin Fields in 2651 02:16:38,559 --> 02:16:40,879 another slow puppy right now as I'm talking to you guys. 2652 02:16:41,879 --> 02:16:45,040 All right, I got one. I'm I'm swinging for upside on 2653 02:16:45,040 --> 02:16:46,959 these picks this year. Not playing it safe. 2654 02:16:46,959 --> 02:16:49,200 Give me, give me Ricky Pierce, all Brandon. 2655 02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:52,559 I damn it, that's a great one. Brandon I you gets created. 2656 02:16:52,639 --> 02:16:57,879 He goes in the late 90s. You guys are just picking the I 2657 02:16:58,000 --> 02:16:59,680 shouldn't have brought this up. I gave you 2. 2658 02:17:01,480 --> 02:17:03,400 I just would have. I just would have won by you not 2659 02:17:03,400 --> 02:17:06,040 picking good picks. Yeah, and I don't. 2660 02:17:06,040 --> 02:17:13,000 I didn't really have one. So let me give me a SEC, all 2661 02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:15,120 right. I'll say I I'll give you one if 2662 02:17:15,120 --> 02:17:19,360 you don't have one. I'll go Cooper Cup. 2663 02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:21,680 I'll go Cooper Cup. Oh, that's a good one. 2664 02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:25,360 Just just to trigger me. Off this off this puka week to 2665 02:17:25,360 --> 02:17:28,040 week stuff we maybe we see cup up in the mid second by the end. 2666 02:17:28,760 --> 02:17:30,320 I like that. I think that's going to happen. 2667 02:17:30,520 --> 02:17:31,760 Who was your other? Now I'm curious. 2668 02:17:32,680 --> 02:17:36,719 Rico Dowdell once, once all all this stuff coming out about him 2669 02:17:36,719 --> 02:17:39,760 looking good at camp and. Royce Freeman's injured. 2670 02:17:40,799 --> 02:17:42,440 That is a good one. Royce Freeman. 2671 02:17:42,520 --> 02:17:44,400 Yeah, Dowdell Dowdell seems like a good one. 2672 02:17:44,400 --> 02:17:48,559 Nice. All right, yeah, Closing the 2673 02:17:48,559 --> 02:17:51,320 show out, Davis. Anything you want to tell the 2674 02:17:51,320 --> 02:17:54,480 people about? Yeah, big stream tomorrow. 2675 02:17:54,480 --> 02:17:56,520 All the BBM winners are coming on. 2676 02:17:56,639 --> 02:18:03,559 Herzig, Liam Pat Farid Pretty sick, honestly, that it worked 2677 02:18:03,559 --> 02:18:05,639 out. I I really thought I was like, I 2678 02:18:05,639 --> 02:18:07,799 was just like, someone's not going to be available or like 2679 02:18:07,799 --> 02:18:09,360 something. But it was, it was very cool. 2680 02:18:09,360 --> 02:18:11,120 So I'm, I'm pretty, pretty hyped for that. 2681 02:18:13,280 --> 02:18:16,120 Grant anything you want to tell people about on like Opera 2682 02:18:16,120 --> 02:18:19,160 otherwise. Yeah, Article came out this 2683 02:18:19,160 --> 02:18:23,160 morning that I wrote on the running backs available around 2684 02:18:23,160 --> 02:18:27,120 seven through 10. And I'm going to be. 2685 02:18:27,120 --> 02:18:29,879 So I, I wrote up like a little intro and then just the running 2686 02:18:29,879 --> 02:18:33,400 back profiles in round seven. I did a piece like a month or so 2687 02:18:33,400 --> 02:18:36,719 ago looking at the early round running backs, looking at like 3 2688 02:18:36,719 --> 02:18:40,080 questions to ask about that range of the draft. 2689 02:18:40,480 --> 02:18:43,760 And I did a similar approach in this article. 2690 02:18:43,760 --> 02:18:48,920 I changed the questions though. So the questions were, let's 2691 02:18:48,920 --> 02:18:53,240 see, our new questions were is this is the projectable volume 2692 02:18:53,240 --> 02:18:55,959 historically underpriced? How strong is the talent based 2693 02:18:55,959 --> 02:18:58,719 range of outcomes and is there additional contingent value? 2694 02:18:59,040 --> 02:19:01,400 So I evaluated all the running backs in around 7 through that 2695 02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:04,000 framework, looking at their advanced stats and just kind of 2696 02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:06,080 talking to the situations that's out right now. 2697 02:19:07,080 --> 02:19:09,959 First couple guys are above the paywall and then I'm going to 2698 02:19:09,959 --> 02:19:14,360 have round eight tomorrow around 9:00 on Wednesday, round 10 plus 2699 02:19:14,600 --> 02:19:17,280 probably the the Cowboys backfield as well, because I got 2700 02:19:17,280 --> 02:19:19,760 to talk about that out on Thursday. 2701 02:19:19,760 --> 02:19:23,440 And then Daniel Razz is going to have an article on this part of 2702 02:19:23,440 --> 02:19:27,080 the draft, whether it's truly a running back Oasis or if it's a 2703 02:19:27,080 --> 02:19:28,879 running back Mirage that'll be out Friday. 2704 02:19:30,080 --> 02:19:32,080 Awesome, that sounds really interesting. 2705 02:19:32,320 --> 02:19:33,639 Looking forward to checking that out. 2706 02:19:33,639 --> 02:19:34,959 Sorry to cut you off. Did you have something else 2707 02:19:34,959 --> 02:19:37,879 there, Pat? I was also going to note that 2708 02:19:37,879 --> 02:19:41,000 anyone who's not in the Discord and if you're using the 2709 02:19:41,000 --> 02:19:44,000 Sidekick, hop in. We do have the beta going on. 2710 02:19:44,920 --> 02:19:47,639 You can test out the custom ranks, which I think we're 2711 02:19:47,639 --> 02:19:49,560 getting pretty close to just launching as a feature on the 2712 02:19:49,560 --> 02:19:52,520 Sidekick. And then we're pretty close to 2713 02:19:52,520 --> 02:19:55,880 where DraftKings is going to be part of that beta test as well. 2714 02:19:55,880 --> 02:20:00,840 So like I think we're pretty close on that, but hopefully 2715 02:20:00,840 --> 02:20:04,000 sometime this week. That's good news to me. 2716 02:20:04,000 --> 02:20:06,840 That's all I can do right now up here in Maine is draft 2717 02:20:06,840 --> 02:20:08,800 draftking, so we'll definitely have to check that out. 2718 02:20:09,640 --> 02:20:13,240 Anyways, fun stuff, guys. Check out Davis's streams, check 2719 02:20:13,240 --> 02:20:16,000 out Leg Up. We will be back next week. 2720 02:20:16,200 --> 02:20:16,600 Peace.