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Week 5 is behind us and Best 
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advance rates skyrocket with the
ultimate Saquon Barkley floor 

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week. 
This is stat chasing Pat Fryer 

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Helmo. 
This is what This is what I'm 

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Pat. 
Anita Handjob. 

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Fix your side. 
Jamar. 

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Alpha play Chase. 
Tony, you can't handle the heat.

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It looks like we're finding this
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You're right. 
Yeah. 

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Huge, huge Saquon Barkley floor 
game. 

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We all got marked safe from 
Saquon Barkley in Week 5. 

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Yeah, we also got Mark Safe from
Alvin Kamara in Week 5 as well. 

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That was because I absolutely 
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slate. 
I had something like 42% Alvin 

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Kamara, captain, so he was 
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So you're all welcome for my 
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Yeah, much, much appreciated. 
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more comfy about my Camara fate 
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Yeah, yeah, the as far as like 
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gonna hurt me the most this 
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I'm not super worried about the 
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Definitely concerned about the 
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But I think I think my best ball
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now. 
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I mean, we had the Rashi Rice 
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we've officially got 
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the rest of the season. 
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it's two seasons now between the
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inevitable suspension coming 
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He's not punching through. 
There will be no revival, no, 

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which is very unfortunate as a 
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the rough equivalent of a Toyota
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Teams get totaled, so the 
process was fantastic. 

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Though Draco, yeah, we we'll 
always have the process. 

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Yeah, All right, let's get into 
some charts. 

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So here this is our quarterback 
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different metrics here. 
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points from passing, which is 
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quarterback passing volume. 
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stood out to me. 
The the first one, I think we 

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just have to go over two weeks 
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table for Burrow as a really 
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the chart to be a candidate for 
positive regression. 

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And I mean, all the stars were 
aligning. 

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And that's not to say that we 
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their mom was on Joe Burrow last
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But I do think it's important to
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and like how we got there so 
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through that and and see if 
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like that exactly. 
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through my notes from from last 
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kind of noted was like, Hey, his
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on. 
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but he's underperforming on 
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Then we all then we also kind of
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big pass funnel. 
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disagree, but to me, those are 
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big markers to look for. 
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week. 
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blind to miss. 
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getting at. 
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for things I'm looking for in my
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the boxes we checked last week 
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was a smash spot. 
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quarterback and the dog bowl and
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too. 
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Unfortunately, I don't, you 
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repeating and Joe Burrow, I 
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That's such a fantastic spot. 
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going to be few and far between.
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Yeah, It's not. 
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that I think are like the best 
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main slate. 
The one I I've I've I've a a 

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choice as well, but I actually 
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Do you do you want to go first 

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or do you want me to go first? 
I can, I can go 1st. 

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don't think any of these guys 
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Joe Burrow was perfect. 
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think he's been kind of like 
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injury, but Diggs and Dell are 
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catchers. 
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dot is good. 
His yards per tent are good, but

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the the TDs have just been a 
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I think he's basically been 
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know like that's like, Oh well, 
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right in line, but it's fucking 
Cesar Stroud like he he should 

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actually be efficient on 
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So to me that's like kind of 
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spot and the I guess, and that 
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Their online isn't as good and 
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It does look like they're 
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Yeah, in the in the Patriots, 
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And the Patriots did just lose. 
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which defensive back it was. 
The name is escaping. 

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Oh, the the guy who punched his 
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So he he will not be playing 
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Now here's so there's a couple 
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through this Texans and Patriots
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don't know if you've heard, but 
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So it is one of the lowest total
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It may in fact be the lowest 
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I think the over under is like 
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wasn't necessarily meant to be 
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talked about, hey, this is a 
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input volatility because right. 
And, and I I think this Patriots

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situation is really right for 
that opportunity. 

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We don't have data on what The 
Patriots. 

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Yeah. 
How? 

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Yeah, how you gonna model what 
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Drake May at the helm? 
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is worse than it has been these 
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they're willing to pass a tiny 
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Brissett. 
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their game plan. 
Oh, we win. 

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We, I mean, we saw Drake May in 
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way better than Brissett, right?
Like the the the there will be 

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positive improvement I think. 
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I think you do you. 
Do honestly have the potential 

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here for something that looks 
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the Patriots Jets game where 
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them and and the the Patriots 
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what seems like a pretty good 
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say we have no idea. 
We we have a very imperfect idea

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of of how good that the Patriots
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Right. 
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you have there to this game 
going substantially over is you 

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need the Texans to be able to 
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Patriots and really, really 
force them to not be comfortable

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sitting back and running the 
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pushed quite as hard if May just
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like really, really positive 
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You know, the the Patriots 
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I mean, the the incentives here 
were really interesting to think

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through prior to them starting 
May. 

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Because I really think that if 
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logically, Jerrod Mayo was 
incentivized to start Jacoby 

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reset as long as he felt he 
could without starting Jacoby 

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Brissett being something that is
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If that makes sense. 
Because the Jacoby Brissett 

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games are basically like a wash.
They're they're considering 

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those like, well, we can just 
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Those say nothing about your 
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The plan was never Jacoby 
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You throw those results out like
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Right. 
And so if you just if you just 

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assume that, hey, you know, 
Jerrod Mayo's job is safe 

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through X number of games, you 
know, assuming a a win loss 

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record of whatever with Drake 
May well delaying when the the 

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clock starts on that is very 
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You know, the guy's making six 
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He coaches like it is very much 
in his best interest to push the

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clock back as long as he can. 
But now that he has May 

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starting, the incentive changes 
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need to be better now, like if 
things have to improve now the 

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And so I think he might like if 

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May can go and show something, 
he might be willing to shift 

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away from being quite so run 
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You can get the Texans pass 
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on on double wrap. 
Yeah, like like tank, tank Dell 

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you can get at the 4-5 turn 
pretty consistently and same 

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with. 
So you can get a Dell Stroud 

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stack at the 4-5 turn. 
Like very very. 

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I I saw that Stroud was very 
cheap. 

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I was checking the ADP on him 
and I was like, yeah, that 

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doesn't make any sense. 
Right. 

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So I, I, I like that whatsoever.
I like that spot for sure. 

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I've been attacking it. 
The one that I had as someone 

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that was a good spot to target 
one of the three highest game 

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totals on the week, I believe is
Jordan Love and the Packers 

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against the Cardinals. 
So this one I think is 

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interesting just because we had 
the really big Jordan Love game 

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two weeks ago against the 
Vikings in a big trailing script

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where he just has to drop back 
and Chuck it up and do the Brett

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Favre impression right. 
Then this last game, he really 

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he just doesn't get there 
because of a lot of dantevion 

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Wicks drops. 
You know, a a ton of meat got 

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left on the bone. 
Granted, there were some 

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uncatchable targets too, but 
it's like I I think that what we

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saw there was just like the 
variants going the other way for

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a guy who's leaning into a a 
higher variant style. 

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He he's a deep passer like 
Jordan Love is consistently 

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attacking down the field. 
That's why he still hasn't 

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adjusted yards per attempt as 
high as he does even without 

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connecting on a lot of those 
like so I think you're in a good

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spot for love. 
He's also like if you look where

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he's at on the chart, he's in a 
similar place to where Joe 

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Burrow was on the chart before 
he had his big explosion game. 

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It's not quite as good a spot 
as, you know, the the Bengals at

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the Ravens, but I do think it's 
a pretty good spot. 

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And also, I think with Romeo 
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helps him. 
I don't think Dobbs like I think

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it's a little it'd be ridiculous
to say that getting Dobbs back 

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on the field is a net negative 
for the team. 

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Like I don't think that anyone 
really believes that. 

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So I'm I'm interested in love 
here in a bounce back spot. 

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And last week you could barely 
ever get him very far past the 

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2-3 turn. 
You're taking him in the mid to 

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early third round of the dog 
bowl. 

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Now you can consistently get him
in the fourth round. 

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You could probably push him to 
the fifth in some drafts too, 

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but I think it's a pretty good 
spot. 

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I think the the some of the 
differences between him and 

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like, I know we're comparing to 
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do need, you do need them to be 
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crazy good efficiency. 
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neutral game strip is is 
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and almost hasn't been. 
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he's like the archetype of 
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You just like that. 
You've got a little bit of a tin

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I think it can certainly hit and

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baked into into cost. 
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the stuff I noticed. 
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Cardinals past defense numbers 
and this is this is one week 

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stale of data. 
This is just what Pat had put 

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together in his walkthrough 
article over on Leg Up. 

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But the Cardinals pass defense 
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32nd in drop back success 
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They're this is this is the one 
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when I was looking at this 
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They're 31st in time to 
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for Jordan love. 
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up to be like, hey, this is like
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pass defense to the Rams. 
And we just love the spot for 

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love versus the Rams. 
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know, we didn't get the huge 
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And so people are off of it now.
And it's like, you can go right 

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back to the well, it's honest. 
I mean, like I'm looking, I'm 

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looking through all these 
metrics like Cardinals. 

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Well, teams just haven't. 
The thing is, teams have not 

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been throwing it against them. 
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I wonder how much that like my, 
my question is how much of that 

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is like, hey, they're running 
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they're just playing very run 
heavy teams. 

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Yeah, that's a good point. 
I mean, the 49ers did absolutely

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carve them up through the air 
though. 

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So they they played the Bills. 
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Team that's a team that they 
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they've forgotten. 
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the Cardinals just beat the out 
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they. 
Do running the ball. 

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Right. 
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who put 42 upon them. 
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23 and points against them and, 
and, and actually the 49ers and 

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then and the, and the 
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slightly password over expected 
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citing are are just from playing
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To the bills and so yeah, maybe 
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still think they don't profile 
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heavy. 
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with like Jordan love is always 
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for the rest of his healthy 
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Always go when he's cheap, will 
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he just will be. 
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hoping that the the game, if the
game goes off, all the all the 

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ingredients are there. 
But we definitely can see, you 

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know, you can see how it doesn't
get there through James Conner, 

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you know, just chewing up clock 
and the Cardinals being happy to

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do that. 
So moving on to other 

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quarterbacks here on the chart, 
this was OK. 

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So these are two where they're 
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Neither of them have had massive
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pretty big shootout recently, 

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and his numbers got a little 
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And they still were just OK. 
But they're both right next to 

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each other on the chart, and 
they play each other this week, 

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and that's Jared Goff and Dak 
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This one's really interesting to
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I mean, the Cowboys have been 
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defense. 
They looked a little bit better 

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against the Saints, but I think 
that might just be the Saints 

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more. 
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And so I think maybe people like
have too short of a memory on 

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how bad the Cowboys. 
Defense is I actually mixed up. 

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You say the the the the Cowboys 
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Saints. 
Oh, I'm sorry. 

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I, I, I don't know why I said 
the Saints there, but I had the 

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Saints in my mind from last 
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Watching that. 
Oh OK, OK, that's why. 

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But they did look better. 
Yeah, they they did look a 

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little better, but sorry the 
Steelers same run heavy boring 

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ass team. 
Yeah. 

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But anyway I I think people 
might just be forgetting how bad

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the Cowboys defense is after 
after watching one game where 

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they were OK. 
My question I I think there's 

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another one where you need the 
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Yeah, absolutely. 
The, the Lions are going to be 

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so happy to hand the ball off 
and, and just like pound it into

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the, the, the Cowboys like 
that's, that's their ideal way 

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for this game to go. 
Yeah, if I had to rank the the 

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games as far as like which one 
is going to be more likely to 

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have that big shootout 
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Packers Cardinals much higher 
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The reason I do like this 
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when the Cowboys push the Lions,
the Lions have a good offense 

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and they're willing to throw the
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So I, I mean, it's definitely a 
spot where you need the Cowboys 

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to be scoring points. 
So to me it probably reads like 

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maybe you play it through Dak 
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backs because the Lions are 
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It's just hard to. 
Goff would need to really 

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monopolize all the touchdowns to
get there. 

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'Cause you know, even even if 
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they're still gonna involve 
their backs. 

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So I think it's probably a play 
it through Dak Prescott angle. 

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But then like bring, bring Lions
bring backs in in a pretty heavy

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way if you're doing it 'cause I 
think if Dak is getting there, 

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the game is probably going off. 
So I don't think this is one 

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where you want to just do like a
Dak CD skinny stack like the the

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Lions are not going without a 
fight on this one if the Cowboys

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make it competitive. 
Right, right. 

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I think on the other hand, we 
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Dallas, I think this was against
the Saints, where Dallas did get

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the get beaten up by the Saints 
and then that Prescott got there

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in kind of garbage time. 
Yeah, that's true. 

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So yeah, I guess that's just 
you've got like the two ways for

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for good outcomes for DAC and 
it's it's just a lot thinner for

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golf, right? 
Because even when when the game 

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goes well for Goff, that might 
not even be that great a thing. 

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If he plays well, his volume 
will be low. 

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Yeah, yeah. 
Which is a problem. 

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So yeah, I think, I think I'd 
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think it's an interesting spot. 
Yeah, yeah, for sure. 

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I mean, the game. 
The game of the week, though. 

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It is these two behemoth 
quarterbacks here in the top 

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left hand corner of the chart, 
Lamar Jackson and Jayden Daniels

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facing off. 
I mean, if there's any game that

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was going to challenge the the 
Ravens and Bengals game for the 

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most enjoyable game of the 
season to watch, this one seems 

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like it could be pretty fun. 
I mean, both these guys have 

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been ludicrously efficient. 
Like when you look at these 

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adjusted yards per attempt, 
these guys have been incredible.

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And it's it. 
It's also showing. 

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We already talked about last 
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funnel the Ravens are. 
Yeah, and, and the, the 

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commanders are definitely not, 
they're not an imposing defense 

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either. 
So yeah, you've got a, you've 

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got a really good situation 
here. 

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And, and the tape lines up with 
what the numbers are saying too.

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Like when you watch both of 
these guys, it's very clear that

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they're very talented passers. 
Lamar is making these incredible

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out of the pocket off platform. 
The the throw where he literally

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he leaves his feet and throws an
absolute dot to Isaiah likely. 

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Like it's literally just all arm
talent. 

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Like Lamar Jackson is making 
throws that like, I mean, this 

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is like vintage Aaron Rodgers 
type stuff. 

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Like, you know, the stuff that 
where people would just glaze 

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Aaron Rodgers forever about what
incredible arm talent he no one 

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else in the league can make a do
you just simply no one has an 

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arm like this man. 
Like, OK, well, Lamar Jackson 

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has that arm now and I feel like
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So I'm I'm pretty into Lamar 
this week. 

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My my big problem is he goes 
really early in dog bowl drafts.

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He's like 4th or 5th pick 
overall, so it's kind of hard 

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for me to want to play it 
through Lamar. 

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Meanwhile, Jaden Daniels goes 
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the board, but in the second 
round. 

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So I kind of think like. 
If if I, I just looked it up, 

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Jaden Daniels is like pick 14 or
15, right? 

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So that's like 2O22O3. 
He he'll in the in the dog, 

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though, he falls into the middle
of the second round. 

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The the AD PS are all set by the
six man drafts. 

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And so it's just different in 
the the 12 man drafts and how 

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they they shake out. 
But he'll usually go in the 

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middle of the second round 
there. 

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And so it it's often lining up 
to where the Lamar drafter and 

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the Daniels drafter are and. 
So where did where did Jayden 

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Daniels go like last week? 
I think he was going earlier in 

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that. 
Round he was. 

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No, he's going early in the week
he was going like 2-3 turn, I 

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want to say. 
And then by the end of the week 

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with projections out and 
everything, he was going like 

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closer to 1-2 turn. 
So yeah, a little, little 

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earlier. 
Because what now I did, I do 

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want to note, I think I, I, I 
remember saying about Daniels 

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that his like one of his issues 
is as as a mobile quarterback, 

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his time to TRO is like high, 
despite the kind of low A dot. 

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And that might be an issue 
against them. 

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A really good Browns pass rush. 
So here's his time to throw it 

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for full season or for weeks. 
124 is like 3 seconds. 

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It's just 2.3 against the the 
Browns. 

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And so like to me, like the 
Browns kept them in check last 

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week and so kept keeping them in
check is like 20 points. 

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Yeah, so. 
Yeah, your ceiling there was 

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really good. 
Yeah, I I definitely like it a 

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lot. 
The the like only the only 

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caveat I have to just jamming 
the 100% Jayden Daniels this 

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week is that because of all the 
bye weeks, the slate gets pretty

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thin that the skill position 
players like especially running 

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back when you get later. 
And so if you're taking a 

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quarterback in the 1st 2 rounds,
you just, you need to have some 

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guys that you're comfortable 
scrolling down for to be able 

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to, to make that work, I think. 
That makes sense. 

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That makes sense. 
And, and, and, and there's a 

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bunch of guys that we talked 
about that we're interested in. 

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Yeah, we will definitely hit on 
some later tonight as well. 

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One, one other guy that I, I 
really like and he he's showing 

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up in a pretty good spot on the 
chart is Baker Mayfield, who's 

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absolutely free in dog bowl 
drafts. 

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You can get him fifth, sixth 
round every time, basically 

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playing against the Saints 
indoors. 

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I mean the Saints. 
And the the the Tampa Bay they 

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like to pass this year. 
Yes, yeah. 

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And you're saying he's his 
volume is good, he's playing 

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well, concentrating the passing 
attack the way he is and he's 

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getting volume? 
And their their preferred way to

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do it is the death by 1000 cuts 
ways they're not doing as much. 

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Right. 
It's like 6 yard A dot. 

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Yeah, they're not. 
It's not as deep as Baker was 

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throwing last year when it was 
literally just like, all right, 

448
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,480
it's Mike Evans and we we live 
and die by Mike Evans. 

449
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,480
Now. 
It's been a little bit shorter 

450
00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:18,520
in general, but I mean, it's 
working pretty well. 

451
00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:22,320
Baker's been really efficient. 
So I really like this spot. 

452
00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:27,360
You just saw the Saints get 
destroyed by Juju Smith Schuster

453
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,040
from the slot. 
You know, like Juju Smith 

454
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,160
Schuster and the ghost of Travis
Kelsey, who, you know, to his 

455
00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:37,040
credit went out there and put up
a vintage Travis Kelsey game. 

456
00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:42,560
But man, I mean, if you pull off
the name plates and you show me 

457
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,160
Travis, Kelsey and Zach Ertz you
know, side by side, it's, it's a

458
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,000
little hard to distinguish 
physically what's going on, you 

459
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,400
know? 
Yeah, yeah, Kelsey has 

460
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,880
unfortunately given us a prime 
Zach Ertz season. 

461
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,040
Yeah, but he he does. 
He knows where to be. 

462
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,280
He knows knows where to find the
soft spots in the zone and sit 

463
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:05,480
down and so and there's no one 
else on that offense. 

464
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,160
So he's he's going to be 
effective. 

465
00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:10,560
But but back to Baker. 
So you get this defense that 

466
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,040
just got absolutely torched by 
little to no talent from the 

467
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,520
past catchers on the chiefs and 
Baker's been very good and Mike 

468
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,400
Evans and Chris Godwin have been
very good. 

469
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,000
I mean, this is like a all 
systems go spot for me. 

470
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:25,720
Like I'm good with Baker double 
s. 

471
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,320
I if you, if you told me that 
you could get a Baker triple 

472
00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:32,840
where you got, you know, Mike 
Evans, second round, Chris 

473
00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:36,160
Godwin, third round, someone 
else, fourth round, Baker 

474
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:38,280
Mayfield, fifth round, K dot and
sixth round. 

475
00:27:38,360 --> 00:27:40,200
I'm into it. 
I think that's pretty good. 

476
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,920
I think they're going to score 
enough points and you're getting

477
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,160
them all cheap enough that 
you're basically just saying, 

478
00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:52,280
like if I hit on the first round
player that is, is a, you know, 

479
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,440
weak winner, then I'm doing 
pretty good and the rest of the 

480
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,840
guys are just gonna score enough
to get me up to the top. 

481
00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:01,320
Not him. 
Yeah. 

482
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:02,800
That makes sense. 
That makes sense. 

483
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:08,840
I mean, it's tough to say Baker 
Mayfield in like a GPP, but like

484
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,680
he's a he's a good play. 
He's just a good, he's going to 

485
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,440
be a good solid play all year. 
And this is like, this is a good

486
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:18,000
spot for him. 
The if I if I was going to pour 

487
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,680
cold water on this spot, it 
would be that the Saints aren't 

488
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,600
functional on offense without 
Derek Carr, not that they looked

489
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,120
particularly functional last 
night. 

490
00:28:26,360 --> 00:28:28,920
I mean, the only thing that's 
been functioning for the Saints 

491
00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:33,440
is Rashid Shahid, who will 
definitely talk about here, but.

492
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:38,320
I mean, I honestly wonder 
though, with, with I, I, I, I 

493
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,320
think Tampa Bay are like a team 
that does not need to be pushed.

494
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:45,240
They're perfectly happy to throw
the ball all over you and so if 

495
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,640
you're just giving them 
possession after possession like

496
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,560
like that, that could end up 
being a lot of points. 

497
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,720
Now, maybe they got pulled in 
the fourth quarter, but that 

498
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,000
just means they've scored a lot 
of points to that point. 

499
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,280
Yeah, that's a, that's a good 
point. 

500
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,240
There's only one other guy I 
wanted to talk about here and 

501
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:11,080
it's really just a, a very mild,
like the most mild victory lap 

502
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,920
you can take. 
But it's Bonex because from week

503
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:18,280
one, we talked about that Week 5
was gonna be a good spot for 

504
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:20,600
Bonex. 
And while the stat line might 

505
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,560
not be terribly impressive, 200 
passing yards, 2 passing 

506
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,920
touchdowns, and a rushing 
touchdown, if that had happened 

507
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:31,760
in a week or we didn't get these
absolutely nuclear quarterback 

508
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:36,040
games from Lamar and Burrow, I 
think you probably could have 

509
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:37,720
gotten there with the Bonex 
team. 

510
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,720
Now granted, you couldn't really
play it with any of his weapons.

511
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,120
Yeah, I think that's the thing 
about. 

512
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,720
Nick is like. 
If you play him, you have to 

513
00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:46,960
play him. 
I was like, you play him naked 

514
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:52,480
as a way to unlock a really 
expensive pass thing or on, you 

515
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,680
know, those DraftKings slates 
where it's really heavy priced. 

516
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,360
It's really hard to play the 
players you want to play. 

517
00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,880
You have to find savings 
somewhere. 

518
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,680
I think that's the kind of week 
that you win with at Bonex. 

519
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,800
Yeah, and, and I mean, really, 
I'm what my actionable take away

520
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,440
from this is just proof of 
concept that Bonex could 

521
00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:15,600
technically score enough fantasy
points to be relevant. 

522
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,840
And like, although Cortland 
Sutton did not get anywhere 

523
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:23,760
close to any fantasy points this
week, his role in previous weeks

524
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,360
has been really good basic if 
you go and if you're just being 

525
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:30,400
a box score scout, you look at 
the box scores pretty much every

526
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,160
week is like, wow, if Cortland 
Sutton had a touchdown this 

527
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,240
week, he would have had a pretty
good week. 

528
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:39,760
And so the way that I'm looking 
at this is OK, I think this 

529
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,120
there are situations where it 
might work like this could be a 

530
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,120
break glass in case of emergency
play. 

531
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,840
And so where I'm looking at it 
again, the next stop on the 

532
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,440
Bonex Express, I think for me is
gonna be Week 8 when they play 

533
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:55,880
Carolina, who has been a really 
fun defense to target. 

534
00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,920
Yeah, yeah, for sure. 
Like, especially with the Bears 

535
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,400
tearing them up on the ground. 
Yeah, like that. 

536
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,600
Like, seems good. 
Seems attractive. 

537
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,920
We got a question here. 
Isn't may slash plus poke a 

538
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,960
better play than Knicks at the 
same cost? 

539
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:19,240
I mean, I what's that? 
I wouldn't play Knicks this 

540
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:20,520
week. 
I don't even think Knicks is on 

541
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:25,560
the slate this week, but yeah. 
I, I, I wanted to kind of like 

542
00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:29,680
circle back that we did talk 
about at May and being like 

543
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:33,560
playable it, it's something that
you could do and with the input 

544
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,000
volatility at the very start of 
the show. 

545
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:41,200
Yeah, yeah. 
Is is he even on the slate this 

546
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,680
week? 
So while you're looking that up 

547
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:52,440
at one other note I had was 
about Kirk Cousins, where it 

548
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,520
does feel a little bit like 
you're getting the play out here

549
00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:00,680
where they're just they're just 
letting they're letting him be 

550
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:05,240
like they're giving him the key 
city offense where I know they 

551
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,400
they were trailing last week. 
So they they had to pass a lot, 

552
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:10,800
but they were even pass rate 
there. 

553
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,960
There was part rate over 
expected was positive even then.

554
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,320
So he passed even more than they
had to. 

555
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:18,920
And then you you get the good 
result. 

556
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,960
So I think the thing about Kirk 
Cousins is you're never going to

557
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,040
get any rushing. 
You're not you're just not going

558
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,920
to get any rushing. 
It's all going to be from pocket

559
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,160
pocket passer stuff. 
So you need to you need that 

560
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:34,640
passing volume to get there. 
And like you don't want to chase

561
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:39,080
like a high passing volume, high
efficiency week from pure pocket

562
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:43,360
passer. 
But he he, he feels pretty solid

563
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:46,120
as like a as a play for the rest
of the year. 

564
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,000
Yeah, and he's he's in an 
interesting spot this week. 

565
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,800
He gets the Panthers, who have 
been again, a really, really fun

566
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,960
defense to target. 
He's just he's a little priced 

567
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:02,080
up this week in dog bowl drafts.
I just, I feel like going. 

568
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:04,040
Ahead of Kyler Murray, CJ 
Stroud. 

569
00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:09,480
Yeah, and, and Drake London is 
like a back of the first round 

570
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,880
pick and Darnell Mooney who has 
like damn near the same target 

571
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,320
share as him. 
And like I, I get it that if you

572
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,440
maybe pick in a vacuum, I'll 
take Drake London over Darnell 

573
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,880
Mooney. 
But when I have to choose Drake 

574
00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,640
London in, you know, the mid 
first round or I can take 

575
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,160
Darnell Mooney in the fourth 
round, like I'm just going to 

576
00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:31,000
take Darnell. 
Like, as disgusting as that is 

577
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:34,360
to say, like never thought that 
we would have an outcome where 

578
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,440
that was something that I would 
say out loud, but. 

579
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:40,800
I don't think it's a play this 
week, but it's, it's just like, 

580
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,360
you know, I, I, I think what we 
got there is pretty legit. 

581
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,880
It's like it's going to be a 
volatile spot week to week given

582
00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:53,680
his profile, but like he's 
you're clearly getting vintage 

583
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:56,080
Kirk Cousins right now and the 
team believes in that. 

584
00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:01,160
Yeah, those are all the 
quarterbacks I had notes on. 

585
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,560
Was there anyone you wanted to 
talk about or should we move on 

586
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:06,520
to the running backs? 
No, I think, I think we covered 

587
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:10,320
it. 
We covered it most comprehensive

588
00:34:10,320 --> 00:34:15,000
quarterback review show of the 
week for sure. 

589
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,280
And so this is our running back 
snaps and usage chart. 

590
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,480
And the green bar corresponds to
rush attempts, the yellow bar 

591
00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,040
corresponds to routes. 
With rare exceptions, most 

592
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,080
running back targets are just 
from running a route. 

593
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,080
The plan is usually not to 
target the running back, but the

594
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:39,880
play broke down and and they 
happened to be the check down. 

595
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:42,560
So that's why we track that as 
kind of like an underlying 

596
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:45,360
usage. 
Then we also like to see who's 

597
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:49,000
trusted as a pass blocker and 
then just around things out, we 

598
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,480
also look at run block. 
We don't focus on it at all, but

599
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,760
it helps us get the full picture
of their of their snap count. 

600
00:34:56,880 --> 00:35:00,720
Yeah, the the first guy, I mean,
I think we have to talk about 

601
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,120
him. 
He's put up two really good 

602
00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:06,560
weeks in a row after I mean, I 
think we I think I said that he 

603
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:09,160
was cuttable in like week 3 or 
something. 

604
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,560
That's DeAndre Swift. 
He's he's kind of risen from the

605
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,520
dead here. 
The Bears, often the only. 

606
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,080
Thing about Swift is he actually
last week he ran bad on 

607
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:19,800
touchdowns. 
Yeah, he did. 

608
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:21,920
He got vultured twice by Roshan 
Johnson. 

609
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:26,120
So he was like. -9 on on on 
fantasy points. 

610
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:29,760
So he was like -1 1/2 touchdowns
under expected. 

611
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,920
Yeah, so. 
He got, he actually got goal 

612
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,320
line carries, he just didn't 
convert. 

613
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,720
And I guess that that's kind of 
nuance because you would, you 

614
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,760
wouldn't expect, you would 
expect him to convert those some

615
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,560
of the time and, and some of 
those. 

616
00:35:45,160 --> 00:35:47,560
But then when when you're 
missing it and and the other guy

617
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,000
gets it you, you do start to get
concerned that maybe they start 

618
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,360
giving it to the other guy more.
Yeah. 

619
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,560
I mean, what are what are your 
thoughts on on Swift going 

620
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,400
forward? 
Because I think it's difficult. 

621
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:02,760
I mean for me, like in a, in a 
redraft home league, this is 

622
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:06,000
like a sell high spot for me, 
like I'm trying to trade them 

623
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:07,480
away. 
But I'm curious on your 

624
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,200
thoughts, is this something 
where you're kind of buying this

625
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,520
the new normal or I? 
Think that's a right framing 

626
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:19,040
where I think that Swift, like 
it's like we said last week, 

627
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:23,960
this is kind of who Swift is 
like he's going to be somebody 

628
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,680
where you you do get like world 
beating plays where he just 

629
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,320
looks incredible. 
He's making guys miss, he's 

630
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,720
taken like the touch, he's 
getting deep rushes and then 

631
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,120
you're going to get plays where 
he just looks like absolute dog 

632
00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:41,160
shit. 
And we've got we've gotten 2 

633
00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:43,240
weeks now where he's actually 
looked pretty good. 

634
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:48,560
But I still, I still would would
expect that you're going to get 

635
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:49,960
weeks where he doesn't look 
great. 

636
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:57,760
And like it's kind of profile is
is also to not convert rushing 

637
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:03,360
touchdowns or goal line touches.
And so it kind of would make 

638
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,720
sense if he was if he was to 
lose those. 

639
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:14,160
But I like I still think our 
like our projection should be 

640
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,920
that you get you will get good 
swift weeks going forward. 

641
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:19,480
You just won't know when they 
come. 

642
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:25,320
Well, this week he does travel 
to London to take on the 

643
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,960
Jaguars, so. 
What do you? 

644
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,560
Think about that spot. 
Well, the Jaguars are just an 

645
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,280
awful of that defense. 
Yeah. 

646
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:38,520
And so like the if a team has 
good run fits, it's going to, 

647
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:41,720
like, give him trouble. 
The Jaguars will not have good 

648
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:43,880
run fits. 
And so, like, he might actually 

649
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,920
look really good this week 
again, like he probably will. 

650
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:54,160
Yeah, yeah, I, I hate to say it,
but I think he's probably a 

651
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,400
pretty good play this week. 
The nice thing is he is not on 

652
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,440
the main slate. 
OK, OK. 

653
00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:03,040
Yeah, it's like a prime time. 
Kind of, yeah. 

654
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:07,560
I I did get, I think I mostly 
faded him in prime time. 

655
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,560
Palooza. 
I got some, but I think I'm 

656
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:15,440
underweight on him. 
OK, You know, another another 

657
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:19,520
running back that is actually in
that same game that I wanted to 

658
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,760
talk about. 
Really it's 2 running backs. 

659
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,360
It's Travis ETN. 
And then of course we can't talk

660
00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,040
about Travis ETN without talking
about Tank Bigsby. 

661
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:33,400
Etn's role through these this 
is, you know, through the season

662
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,920
so far still looks pretty solid.
He's right there with JK 

663
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,880
Dobbins, Josh Jacobs, you know, 
he's he's getting a decent 

664
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:45,800
amount of the work. 
This last game, ETN got out 

665
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,080
carried by Bigsby. 
Now he did. 

666
00:38:49,520 --> 00:38:52,240
There was a shoulder injury that
he's dealing with that the team 

667
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,640
reported. 
And so that could have something

668
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:57,640
to do with him losing more work 
to Bigsby. 

669
00:38:58,160 --> 00:38:59,960
But Bigsby also looked pretty 
good. 

670
00:38:59,960 --> 00:39:04,240
He's, you know, significant rush
yards over expectation, like big

671
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:08,320
breakaway runs. 
So it's hard to deny Bigsby, but

672
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:12,000
I feel like a lot of people are 
suffering from vividness bias 

673
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:15,480
with this where it's like, Oh my
gosh, Tank Bigsby is the one 

674
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,120
that looks good right now. 
He's done it more recently. 

675
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:21,680
Travis ETN that bum, he hasn't 
scored a bunch of fantasy points

676
00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:25,000
this season yet. 
And I, I kind of think that 

677
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,120
people are just forgetting like 
we've, we've got a decent amount

678
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:31,800
of sample that Travis ETN is a 
pretty explosive rusher. 

679
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,960
So I think, I think if, if you 
were, if you taught with high 

680
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,800
confidence that the touch split 
and the snap split from week 5 

681
00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:46,480
and would just project all the 
way true, you wouldn't want, you

682
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,480
wouldn't want to play any of 
these guys. 

683
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,720
It's a it's a pure tree headed 
committee. 

684
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:57,360
And the nice thing about Travis 
ETN is that he actually does 

685
00:39:57,360 --> 00:39:59,960
have a lock on on the receiving 
work. 

686
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:05,360
So he does have that receiving 
floor and if if you buy if you 

687
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:10,760
buy the injury explanation and 
then it becomes closer to a 5050

688
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:18,320
or 6040 to in his favor on the 
rush split, then on underlying 

689
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,200
usage goes back to pretty strong
for Ethan and you. 

690
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,040
So for, for Bigsby, you have to 
believe that, oh, he looks great

691
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:31,800
and therefore like he's going to
get all these extra different 

692
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:39,040
outlooks or outlets to play, 
which I, I, I feel like maybe 

693
00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:42,480
his, the fact that he, he got so
little of the receiving stuff 

694
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:47,880
and with, with an injury at the 
end, he's probably pretty capped

695
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,200
from a full season long 
perspective. 

696
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:55,680
Maybe ETN can go back to being 
like the usage that he got and 

697
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,280
but that it but it is tricky. 
Like I said, I think if that if 

698
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:05,480
that touch split committed, then
you couldn't you wouldn't play 

699
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,360
any of them either. 
Any of them in a GPP like ETN 

700
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,520
will be just a bit startable in 
like redraft. 

701
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,240
Yeah, that's that's a really 
good point. 

702
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:20,160
There's two things that I want 
to talk through #1 is the 

703
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,720
passing role for ETN versus the 
passing role for Bigsby. 

704
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:28,200
I know that we haven't seen 
Bigsby be used really at all as 

705
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,200
a passer during his time in the 
league. 

706
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,760
I'm wondering if we just kind of
throw out his rookie season 

707
00:41:34,760 --> 00:41:38,320
'cause he was atrocious. 
Like the the reason why I did 

708
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,480
not draft any Tank Bigsby is 
because if you play this game 

709
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,600
for long enough and you draft 
guys like Tank Bigsby after 

710
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:47,960
their rookie year, you're going 
to lose a lot of money drafting 

711
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,480
players like tank Bixby after 
the rookie year that he had 

712
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,080
right. 
So I don't, I don't really think

713
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,600
it's when when. 
They get that when they get that

714
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,640
usage at the gate and they 
stink. 

715
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,160
That's bad. 
Yeah, I don't really think it's 

716
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,400
the kind of thing that you 
chase. 

717
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:02,240
It's just it's the cost of doing
business. 

718
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:05,440
It's like good process tells you
don't, don't draft the really 

719
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,760
shit players when they're given 
opportunity as a rookie and they

720
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,880
do nothing with it. 
But when he comes in, in the 

721
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,680
second year, the coaching 
staff's been really vocal about 

722
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:16,600
wanting to involve him more. 
He's getting the work he's 

723
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:20,000
producing with it. 
I I'm more inclined to just 

724
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,240
throw out the whole rookie 
season then and say, all right, 

725
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,880
we're la tabla rasa. 
We're starting brand new here. 

726
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:30,920
And so I don't necessarily know 
that ETN is a block on the 

727
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:34,520
receiving work because Bixby did
catch passes in college. 

728
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:36,960
It's not like it was something 
he was totally incapable of 

729
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,720
doing. 
Yeah, you're right, You're 

730
00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:41,480
right. 
And he actually like he was a 

731
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,600
pretty solid right back in 
college, so. 

732
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,600
So that's that's one where I'm 
like, if I want to think through

733
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,720
the bowl case for Bigsby, it's 
just that the rookie season was 

734
00:42:50,720 --> 00:42:53,280
just the weirdest aberration of 
all time. 

735
00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:58,000
And he just kind of morphs into 
the lead back in this backfield 

736
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,520
and ETN is more of like he 
spells him. 

737
00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:03,400
I had to be clear. 
I don't really think that's the 

738
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:05,680
most likely outcome, but I I 
think it's. 

739
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,760
And I think, I think it the 
reason I, I, I sort of like 

740
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:13,800
suggested it's unlikely is 
because if ETN is injured and he

741
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:18,320
still has this lock on pack on 
receiving work, then that's not,

742
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:21,320
that's not great for Bigsby. 
Like even when he's looking good

743
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:24,240
when they're trying to showcase 
him more and he's still not 

744
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:26,560
touching that. 
Like that's something that would

745
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:29,680
have to evolve pretty 
dramatically from here forward. 

746
00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:32,240
And what, what you're saying is,
hey, that can happen. 

747
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,000
Like he was a good receiving 
back. 

748
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:35,840
That can happen, I think is what
you're. 

749
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:38,880
Saying, yeah, but but your point
about the injury is actually 

750
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:42,080
dovetails with my second point, 
which is this is extremely 

751
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:43,800
small. 
We're trying to we're trying to 

752
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:49,000
parse the way that the humans on
the Jaguars coaching staff think

753
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:53,040
through and handle workload in 
the face of injury for their 

754
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,040
running back. 
So we're not going with a ton of

755
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,160
data here. 
We're really, really working off

756
00:43:57,160 --> 00:44:00,440
small stuff. 
But I got tricked earlier by 

757
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,240
this coaching staff with how 
they handled an injury to Bigsby

758
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:11,120
earlier this season where Bigsby
got injured and he is eerily it 

759
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:12,600
was actually his shoulder as 
well. 

760
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:14,680
So both these guys have had 
these shoulder injuries this 

761
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,440
season. 
Bixby gets injured, I believe 

762
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,280
it's in Week 2. 
Andrews his shoulder doesn't see

763
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,560
the field on offense for the 
rest of the game. 

764
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:24,320
However continues to play 
special teams. 

765
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:29,800
I read that coming out of Week 2
as like injury didn't actually 

766
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,920
mean anything in this game. 
Yes, he left the game with a 

767
00:44:31,920 --> 00:44:34,600
shoulder injury, but if the 
injury was that serious you 

768
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,920
don't put the guy back out on 
the field for special team 

769
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,840
snaps. 
Like, you got someone else that 

770
00:44:38,840 --> 00:44:42,880
can do special team, you know, 
But that was not so week three. 

771
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:45,600
I assumed, like, all right, it 
might, it might just be they're 

772
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,160
done with Bigsby. 
They're tired of it. 

773
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,320
D Ernest Johnson's coming back 
to take the job like he did last

774
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,440
year. 
And so I thought Week 3, we 

775
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:55,960
might see D Ernest Johnson usurp
Bigsby in a running back 

776
00:44:55,960 --> 00:44:58,000
hierarchy. 
There wasn't the case. 

777
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:02,400
The Jags coaching staff really 
did just, I can't explain why, 

778
00:45:02,400 --> 00:45:05,200
but they they had more 
information about the situation 

779
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,120
than I did. 
But they decided we certainly 

780
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:11,880
cannot put the sky on the field 
for another snap in the game in 

781
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:13,720
Week 2. 
And he injured his shoulder 

782
00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:15,240
early. 
It wasn't like, oh, he injured 

783
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:17,320
in the third quarter and then 
didn't see any more snaps. 

784
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:21,320
He saw zero offensive snaps 
after the shoulder injury saw, 

785
00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:24,520
you know, a handful of, you 
know, there were only a handful 

786
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:25,960
of special teams snaps to be 
had. 

787
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,480
He saw them, though, in the 
second-half of that game. 

788
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:34,200
So then you get this same kind 
of similar treatment with the 

789
00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:38,520
ETN injury where and ETN is 
obviously not a special teams 

790
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,560
player, but they're like, all 
right, we still need you to do 

791
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,480
this role. 
We need you to do the pass 

792
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,400
catching stuff because like 
that's actually what we really, 

793
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:49,960
you're not as replaceable here, 
but in the running game, we view

794
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:52,240
you as more replaceable here. 
We're going to go ahead and let 

795
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:53,760
Bigsby do more of that this 
game. 

796
00:45:54,040 --> 00:45:56,560
That's kind of the way that I'm 
reading it here. 

797
00:45:56,680 --> 00:45:59,760
I think a lot of it has to do 
with the injury and I I just 

798
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,400
want to try and take what I've 
learned from how this coaching 

799
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:07,040
staff has treated a similar but 
not identical situation earlier 

800
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:09,840
this season. 
And I want to try and apply that

801
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,320
context. 
This situation. 

802
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,120
So seems like a really good sell
high spot for Tank Bigsby if 

803
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:17,480
you're in a home league and you 
have them like this is a smash 

804
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:21,880
sell spot for Bigsby. 
And then yeah, like what you're 

805
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,680
saying is it's not really a like
how you gonna how you gonna play

806
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:28,840
either of these guys in AGPP 
going forward? 

807
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:33,080
Like the requisite ceiling is 
just like it's really hard to we

808
00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,680
just got the ceiling outcome for
Bigsby and yeah, it was a great 

809
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:39,640
game, but it like that's the 
ceiling. 

810
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,720
You know it was right 2020 some 
odd fan low 20s fantasy points 

811
00:46:43,720 --> 00:46:45,360
like woo Hoo, you know like. 
Right. 

812
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:49,800
You got 13 carries and and like 
he he gets 100 what, 101 yards 

813
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:53,920
with them. 
Yeah, or something like. 

814
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,400
That moving on to another 
running back. 

815
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:00,360
We have a question in the chat. 
That's also a note that I had 

816
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:03,560
here. 
Pollard looks like the smash of 

817
00:47:03,560 --> 00:47:05,400
all smash spots this week versus
the Colts. 

818
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,000
Is he a target for me and his 
Spears viable and the Dog Bowl 

819
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,800
are too thin. 
Yeah, Pollard's definitely one 

820
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,200
that I'm interested in. 
When I set my rankings for the 

821
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:18,440
Dog bowl prior to any like 
public projection sources being 

822
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:20,680
out. 
I do have Pollard in a spot 

823
00:47:20,680 --> 00:47:23,240
where I will definitely draft 
some of him. 

824
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:28,280
I, I haven't gotten a ton of him
so far 'cause I, I think kind of

825
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,320
the market is frothy on Pollard.
Two, people just want to attack 

826
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,560
this cult spot. 
It's not a state secret or 

827
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,320
anything. 
So I just think it's, it's like 

828
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:39,120
there's not as much meat on the 
bone as we want to be there 

829
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,600
'cause people, it's not a, it's 
not sneaky, you know, But I do 

830
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,600
think it's a good spot and I do 
actually really like Spears. 

831
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:53,840
I, not to blow my, not to blow 
my own stuff up, but I, I've 

832
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:56,520
been taking Spears in the last 
round, like with the last 

833
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:00,440
overall pick on some of these 
teams, just cause running back 

834
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,840
gets really gross late. 
And I mean, yes, Pollard's 

835
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:10,120
favored in getting the workload,
but you certainly it would not 

836
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,640
be out of the question for Taje 
Spears to score more fantasy 

837
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,360
points than Tony Pollard in a 
given week. 

838
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,800
You know, like stranger things 
have happened. 

839
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,640
So I, I, I think it's a pretty 
good spot. 

840
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:23,640
What do you think about it, 
Jerko? 

841
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:29,080
Yeah, I I agree. 
It's like particularly in the 

842
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:32,320
fourth game and against the 
Dolphin or Week 4 game against 

843
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:36,920
the Dolphins, they were a lot 
closer in in rush attempts than 

844
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:41,520
than in prior weeks. 
So I I guess earlier in the 

845
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:46,160
season, Pollard was the like the
strongly preferred rusher or, or

846
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:52,040
that's how they deployed it. 
Some of the coach speak being 

847
00:48:52,040 --> 00:48:54,800
that like they kind of see it 
closer to 5050 and then getting 

848
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,360
an outcome where it actually is 
5050. 

849
00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:02,880
I think. 
Yeah, I I like, especially if 

850
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,440
you're getting a fraud. 
If it's fraudy prices on on 

851
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:10,480
Pollard, then you you probably 
do prefer to play that True, 

852
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,360
true Spears. 
Spears is free like Pollard will

853
00:49:14,360 --> 00:49:19,200
be 100% drafted. 
Spears will go maybe, maybe 

854
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:24,160
forty, 3040% drafted unless 
projections really love him. 

855
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:28,360
In in A10 running back week and 
like what, 8 of them kind of 

856
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,040
what you're hoping for is a 
breakaway run. 

857
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:32,800
Right, yeah. 
And I, I think this is a pretty 

858
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:36,920
good spot to go after that one. 
One thing I'm looking up right 

859
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:42,720
now is I want to see the the 
total number of rushing attempts

860
00:49:42,720 --> 00:49:45,960
in each of those weeks. 
Because I kind of think that the

861
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,440
way they might be divvying up 
the workload is, hey, when we're

862
00:49:50,440 --> 00:49:53,800
really just hammering it on the 
ground and establishing the run.

863
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,800
We do want to take a little bit 
of the work off of Pollard's 

864
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,280
shoulders. 
And that's why they got it a 

865
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,880
little closer to 5050 just cause
the rush volume. 

866
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:05,080
Yeah, it was. 
So 22 attempts for Pollard, 15 

867
00:50:05,080 --> 00:50:06,520
for Spears. 
OK. 

868
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:10,000
And do you do you see how that 
compares to their other? 

869
00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:23,480
So yeah, week 1 was 16 to four, 
Week 2 was 17 to six, and then 

870
00:50:23,480 --> 00:50:29,800
it was six to two in Week 3. 
Yeah. 

871
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,200
So definitely their highest, 
their highest volume week for 

872
00:50:32,200 --> 00:50:33,120
sure. 
So yeah. 

873
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,120
Yeah, easily their highest 
volume week, but I do think they

874
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,280
want to be. 
It does feel like they want to 

875
00:50:38,280 --> 00:50:43,800
be closer to maybe like a 6040 
time like. 

876
00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:48,160
Yeah, I mean, really what that 
tells me, though, is that in the

877
00:50:48,160 --> 00:50:51,480
outcomes where you're getting 
the game to play out the way you

878
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,640
want it, the Titans are rushing 
a bunch, right? 

879
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,280
They're productive on the 
ground. 

880
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,640
It's coming through, you're 
getting a lot of volume and then

881
00:50:58,640 --> 00:51:00,760
it's coming more even on the 
back. 

882
00:51:00,760 --> 00:51:02,920
So the. 
Increase actually goes to 

883
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:05,480
Spears. 
Most of the Pollard in attempts 

884
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:08,880
goes to Spears, yeah. 
Pollard is much better in when 

885
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:11,000
both backs are gonna hit a 
median outcome. 

886
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:14,840
Pollards median is much higher 
than Spears, but when you get a 

887
00:51:14,840 --> 00:51:17,680
ceiling outcome here, I think 
their ceiling outcomes are 

888
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,760
probably a lot closer and 
they're probably also not quite 

889
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,920
as negatively correlated as we 
might think just because their 

890
00:51:24,920 --> 00:51:28,320
ceilings are coming through 
substantially more volume. 

891
00:51:28,720 --> 00:51:32,080
And then I haven't seen the 
reports on if Levis is going to 

892
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,840
play this week or not. 
But I mean, gosh, I would I 

893
00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,760
would think that regardless of 
who's playing, like the the 

894
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:43,520
reason Levis didn't come back in
was certainly injury against the

895
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,040
Dolphins. 
But you have to think that the 

896
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,760
coaching staff was kind of 
breathing aside, they weren't 

897
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,840
slow to make that switch to 
Mason Rudolph, right? 

898
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,920
They're like, oh, thank 
goodness, an opportunity to put 

899
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,880
someone other than Will Levis 
out there because Will Levis has

900
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,400
already done some stuff where 
Brian Callahan looks like he 

901
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,480
just wants to do the, you know, 
Homer Simpson throttling Bart 

902
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:05,760
thing to him when he's leaving 
the field. 

903
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,040
So. 
And, and the game plan for 

904
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:10,600
playing, yeah, the Colts is 
pretty like the Packers laid 

905
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:14,880
that out pretty good, yeah. 
Yeah, I, I really like this 

906
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,400
spot. 
The, the more that I think about

907
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:19,040
it, I'm I'm kind of into, I'm 
into playing both. 

908
00:52:19,240 --> 00:52:23,360
If you right there, there's 
actually 2 spots this week where

909
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:25,600
I'm like, I'll play both running
backs from the same team and 

910
00:52:25,600 --> 00:52:27,520
it's the Lions and the the 
Titans. 

911
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,440
I think. 
I don't think anyone's going to 

912
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:31,400
do that, and I think it's 
pretty. 

913
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:35,760
You mean boat on the same team? 
Oh wow. 

914
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,680
And like but it's a dog bowl on 
A10 running back week. 

915
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:45,640
Yeah, there's only so there's 
5000 ish total entries in the 

916
00:52:45,640 --> 00:52:48,640
tournament. 
Like it's not that massive of a 

917
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:52,680
field. 
You know, I definitely think and

918
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,600
based on just the game totals so
far, like from from what's out 

919
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:59,960
right now from Vegas, like 
there's three really good games 

920
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:03,000
and then there's a lot of stuff 
that's just not quite as 

921
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:05,200
exciting. 
So it might just be a slate 

922
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,800
that's a little bit lower 
scoring and really like so the 

923
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:13,520
Lions 1 is is harder. 
The more that I think through it

924
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:18,880
because it's like for both the 
Lions backs to get there just by

925
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:22,200
the nature of the ADPS, you 
exclude yourself from some of 

926
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:24,720
the best game scripts. 
Like you're not going to get 

927
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:28,760
Jaden Reed, then you're not 
going to get Lamar or Daniels. 

928
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:32,280
Maybe you can sneak in a Terry 
Mclaurin or as a flowers to get 

929
00:53:32,280 --> 00:53:35,000
access to that game. 
You know, maybe you could sneak 

930
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:36,760
in a Marvin Harrison to get 
access. 

931
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:40,960
You could do like a Jalen 
Tolbert or a a Jameson Williams.

932
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,920
So or while you you've got the 
Lions to occupy the Cowboys 

933
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:48,120
game. 
So, yeah, I I don't know, it's 

934
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:52,200
AII think it's probably a better
idea for the Titans just because

935
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:56,800
Spears is free and Pollard is is
cheap enough that you know 

936
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,960
you're not paying, you're not. 
The opportunity cost is much 

937
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:01,360
lower. 
Right, right. 

938
00:54:03,240 --> 00:54:10,760
Another another guy who is, you 
know, in a pretty good workload 

939
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:15,920
situation that I I think could 
be an interesting spot here is 

940
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,120
JK Dobbins. 
I really, I'm really interested 

941
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:20,880
in your opinion on this one 
because I couldn't decide if it 

942
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,800
was a really good play or, or 
just kind of stupid. 

943
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:27,440
So it's it's into the Broncos 
who have a really good defense 

944
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:29,640
on paper. 
I went back and looked at the 

945
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,680
Broncos matchups. 
They played a bunch of teams 

946
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:34,880
that can't really run the ball 
successfully. 

947
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,960
Like the best running back they 
faced was Breece Hall. 

948
00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:43,080
But that was in that like super,
you know, monsoon game and The 

949
00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:47,240
Jets offense just looked 
absolutely terrible, like, I 

950
00:54:47,240 --> 00:54:51,480
mean, entirely ineffective. 
So the Broncos did not. 

951
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,320
Embarrass the Tampa Bay Bucks. 
They absolutely embarrassed 

952
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,600
them. 
They they did, yeah. 

953
00:54:56,600 --> 00:55:00,360
They they stopped the worst 
running back in the NFL Handily,

954
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:02,520
Yeah. 
And what's what's interesting 

955
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:07,400
about Tampa Bay, though, is they
they're if you look at their 

956
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:12,200
ESPN and run block success rate,
it's actually like really good. 

957
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:14,960
Like let me let me let me pull 
this up. 

958
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:19,960
They they're run. 
Sorry, maybe really good is a is

959
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:23,040
an overstatement. 
It's at 14 in the NFL. 

960
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:27,680
So it's like that that's they're
solid and. 

961
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:33,040
Yeah. 
It's not like they have like 

962
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:40,440
this cupcake and what you call 
it online and then the 

963
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:46,040
underlying metrics for for for 
the Denver Broncos, they're like

964
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:48,360
9th in the NFL for a run stuff, 
right? 

965
00:55:48,680 --> 00:55:54,640
So like I think like obviously 
they have beat up on on like 

966
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,840
some of the worst offenses, but 
I think there's enough there 

967
00:55:57,840 --> 00:55:59,920
that they're like probably 
pretty legit. 

968
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,080
Yeah, no, I I mean, the the most
likely thing is the Broncos are 

969
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,520
a good defense both against the 
pass and against the run. 

970
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,280
They are really they're really 
good against the pass. 

971
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:12,800
Like I, I don't, I don't think 
it's disputable that they're 

972
00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,800
good against the pass, right. 
So I'm just wondering, I mean, 

973
00:56:16,800 --> 00:56:18,560
the Chargers want to lean into 
the run. 

974
00:56:18,680 --> 00:56:21,080
They're coming off the bye what 
they're saying. 

975
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,920
About the bye is do you think 
there's any chance we get like a

976
00:56:24,920 --> 00:56:31,240
Vidal like rookie bye week bump?
Maybe, but I I don't think it's,

977
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:37,040
I mean, to me, that's like more 
along the lines of copium from, 

978
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,760
you know, nerdy fantasy football
players than it is anything that

979
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,920
Harbaugh is likely to. 
Actually Harbaugh and Greg Roman

980
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,440
are like JK Dobbins is the 
fucking man. 

981
00:56:47,560 --> 00:56:51,840
Like how what they spent the bye
week on was watching the JK 

982
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:54,680
Dobbins breakaway runs and like,
how do we get more of this? 

983
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:59,360
Like I just I don't know that 
they were if anything, you're 

984
00:56:59,360 --> 00:57:03,400
just going to get like maybe you
get Vidal coming in and taking a

985
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:05,800
couple Gus Edwards touches 
instead. 

986
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,800
But I really don't think it's 
going to hurt Dobbins workload 

987
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:09,240
at all. 
It's going. 

988
00:57:09,240 --> 00:57:11,080
To eat into Dobbins. 
Yeah, that. 

989
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,040
That's pretty fair. 
That's pretty fair. 

990
00:57:13,400 --> 00:57:17,920
And so the the warts on the frog
here are you got Rashawn Slater 

991
00:57:17,920 --> 00:57:21,760
and Joe Alt, who are both listed
as questionable when I checked. 

992
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,120
Now, you know, it's early in the
week. 

993
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:27,840
So this is just a situation I 
want to monitor if both of those

994
00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:30,200
offensive lineman are healthy 
for the Chargers. 

995
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:34,120
This is a spot where I think I'm
just going to say, you know 

996
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,000
what? 
JK Dobbins has shown us the 

997
00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:39,960
explosive plays before. 
And sure, like the, you know, 

998
00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:45,200
the Broncos have looked pretty 
good against the run, but it's a

999
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,840
spot where I'm interested in 
testing it on a weak running 

1000
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:51,280
back slate where JK Dobbins goes
undrafted, you know, he gets 

1001
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:54,800
drafted occasionally. 
Like his is is he's way under 

1002
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,600
drafted versus his use of 
metrics is what that's what 

1003
00:57:58,600 --> 00:58:01,080
you're getting at, right? 
Yes, and it's. 

1004
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,600
Like, do we really respect the 
Broncos defense that much that 

1005
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,440
we're like, oh, this is 
unplayable, right? 

1006
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,800
It's not unplayable. 
It's certainly not unplayable. 

1007
00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:13,160
So that's that's kind of how 
I'm, I'm thinking through it. 

1008
00:58:14,840 --> 00:58:18,320
Let's see the other notes I had 
on running back. 

1009
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:25,320
OK, so the Romandre benching, 
yeah, I guess rumors of his 

1010
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,440
demise have been greatly 
exaggerated because it was not 

1011
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,840
really a benching. 
It was basically the exact same 

1012
00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,640
role that he had every other 
week. 

1013
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,560
So. 
This the the only thing for 

1014
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:41,480
Romandre where Antonio Gibson 
had more routes than him. 

1015
00:58:43,120 --> 00:58:45,600
So like he he he is their he is 
their rusher. 

1016
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:47,320
He is their lead rusher, no 
doubt. 

1017
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:51,440
But he went from like in in the 
first couple of weeks, like 

1018
00:58:51,640 --> 00:58:55,360
Romandre had way more routes 
than than Antonio Gibson. 

1019
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:59,600
And then it's sort of getting 
closer to even and and and last 

1020
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,200
week Gibson had more routes like
I'll be interested to see if 

1021
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:06,760
that continues. 
But that was the one kind of 

1022
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:11,920
like usage node where like like 
if if you're looking for Drake 

1023
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,840
main to kind of unlock the 
offense, maybe maybe Antonio 

1024
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:18,800
Gibson gets more of the benefit 
of that. 

1025
00:59:19,560 --> 00:59:25,880
And but they certainly it. 
I guess the other way to look at

1026
00:59:25,880 --> 00:59:28,480
it is if Reminder is their 
preferred rusher and they start 

1027
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,200
scoring touchdowns, he's 
probably going to get a good 

1028
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,200
bunch of those. 
Yeah, I think. 

1029
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:36,640
I think just for we're going to 
talk about the Patriots a decent

1030
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,520
amount, I'm sure because Drake 
May is starting. 

1031
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:44,360
But I think with the Patriots, 
the analysis, really it should 

1032
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,560
be something where we keep it 
pretty simple and broad and not 

1033
00:59:47,560 --> 00:59:49,320
try to get overly granular with 
this. 

1034
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:52,520
Because there's a lot of spots 
where you know you get a 

1035
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:55,760
systemic change in the offense 
and people are too quick to try 

1036
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,040
and like 0 in on this is the way
it's going to go. 

1037
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,520
And instead I like to take a 
rising tide, lifts all boats, 

1038
01:00:02,520 --> 01:00:06,240
approach on, stuff like that. 
And say, hey, Drake May is in 

1039
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:07,920
the offense, it's going to look 
functional. 

1040
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:10,360
They're going to have the 
opportunity to score more 

1041
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:12,680
points. 
And if we think about this 

1042
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:15,400
probabilistically, every 
Patriots player has some 

1043
01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:17,200
probability of scoring a 
touchdown. 

1044
01:00:17,720 --> 01:00:21,160
And I'm just saying that all of 
those probabilities have 

1045
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,680
increased a little bit because. 
They're yeah, yeah, no, that's 

1046
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,920
pretty fair. 
My, my, I guess my, my, my base 

1047
01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:32,440
kind of point is him losing the 
routes last week is a 

1048
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,960
significant development, 
potentially significant 

1049
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,920
development. 
And if it continues, it does put

1050
01:00:38,920 --> 01:00:41,680
a big game a big tap on his 
upside. 

1051
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:43,480
The rest of the way, yeah, 
absolutely. 

1052
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:49,720
OK, let's see, I think the next 
guys I had notes on were on the 

1053
01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,720
backups chart. 
Was there anyone else you wanted

1054
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,600
to talk about on this chart 
before we move on? 

1055
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:58,240
And no, no, I think we already 
talked about Gibbs and 

1056
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:00,400
Montgomery. 
They're scratches, yeah. 

1057
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:03,400
So we can we can move to the 
next chart. 

1058
01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:10,440
So this one, yeah, this one, 
Rico Dowdell is the one that I 

1059
01:01:10,440 --> 01:01:14,480
really wanted to highlight. 
You finally get the game where 

1060
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:19,800
the Cowboys seemingly understood
that Rico Dowdell is far and 

1061
01:01:19,800 --> 01:01:23,920
away our best rusher, which is 
has always been clear. 

1062
01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:25,920
Now, there's an interesting 
thing. 

1063
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:32,080
The Cowboys changed their run 
scheme this game and it seemed 

1064
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:37,800
to be a lot more successful. 
So I'm, I'm hopeful that they 

1065
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,280
stick with that and I, I think 
that could bode really well for 

1066
01:01:41,280 --> 01:01:45,960
Dowdell going forward. 
Now they did lose Tyler Smith to

1067
01:01:45,960 --> 01:01:50,200
injury in this game and I 
haven't seen how serious that 

1068
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:51,960
injury is. 
So that's a little bit 

1069
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,520
concerning. 
But overall, I, I think it's 

1070
01:01:55,520 --> 01:02:00,240
hard to take away anything but 
really bullish sentiment for 

1071
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,800
Dowdell after this game. 
I mean, the if, if you're 

1072
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,560
wanting to throw cold water on 
it, the, the cold water is that 

1073
01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:11,720
the Cowboys kind of suck and the
offense looks much worse than it

1074
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:15,440
has in recent years. 
And so, you know, the cold 

1075
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,240
waters, there's just not as many
touchdowns for, for the running 

1076
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:19,880
back there. 
So the role's less valuable. 

1077
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:24,120
But I still think it's if he, if
he drafted Rico Dowdell in 

1078
01:02:24,120 --> 01:02:26,880
basketball and you're freaking 
out up to this week, I think 

1079
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:32,320
you're breathing a huge sigh of 
relief because if you get 3-4 

1080
01:02:32,320 --> 01:02:35,960
games with this type of role 
from him, he's absolutely 

1081
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:40,120
smashing his cost. 
And if the role like this 

1082
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,840
continues for the rest of the 
season, you're you're absolutely

1083
01:02:43,840 --> 01:02:45,960
cooking. 
And then you also have the house

1084
01:02:45,960 --> 01:02:49,600
to maybe the Cowboys get their 
shit together just like they did

1085
01:02:49,600 --> 01:02:53,080
last season after their bye week
and doing some self scouting. 

1086
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:58,240
So definitely encouraging there 
any any thoughts on Dowdle and 

1087
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:00,840
his role as the as the season 
progresses here? 

1088
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:06,200
So I guess it's important to 
note. 

1089
01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:09,640
So this is the fourth week in a 
row where he's led the Cowboys 

1090
01:03:09,640 --> 01:03:13,400
and carries and but this is the 
first week where he just 

1091
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:16,640
completely clear and away 
obliterated the other guys. 

1092
01:03:17,640 --> 01:03:22,880
And so I think they're thinking 
about if if we had just one week

1093
01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:26,200
where they gave him a lot of 
carries, it'd be like it'd be, 

1094
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:28,720
it'd be harder to like put a lot
of stock in it. 

1095
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:36,000
But now that we have 4 weeks in 
a kind of in a row and and as 

1096
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,480
they actually rushed more, it 
consolidated to Rico. 

1097
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:44,640
So as they as the game plan 
became to run more consolidated 

1098
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:48,440
to him, that feels like pretty 
decently strong signal. 

1099
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:54,200
And I mean, obviously with a 
running back, you'd like the 

1100
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:56,520
Reds to come as well. 
Those are curious. 

1101
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:01,920
Still split kind of like three 
ways and but pretty positive 

1102
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:05,240
development. 
And then games where the Cowboys

1103
01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:08,560
do run a lot, it does seem like 
he's going to get the majority 

1104
01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:12,400
of those, which you're like 
you're I think you hit the nail 

1105
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,800
on the head at the cost. 
You're pretty happy with that. 

1106
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,480
Yeah, the the other, you know, 
good indicators there deuce fawn

1107
01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:22,840
healthy scratch Cowboys are done
the the nepho baby deuce fawn 

1108
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:24,600
experiment. 
Wow, fun. 

1109
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,920
I I, it was super fun to watch 
the deuce fawn college 

1110
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,960
highlights. 
It was very heartwarming to 

1111
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:33,040
watch his dad get to, you know, 
draft him for the Dallas 

1112
01:04:33,040 --> 01:04:36,160
Cowboys. 
Yeah, the the nepho baby deuce 

1113
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:39,160
fawn stuff is over. 
Unfortunately seems like a 

1114
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:43,160
wonderful human. 
Unfortunately got dealt a shitty

1115
01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:46,520
genetic lottery card because 
he's really really. 

1116
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:53,000
Small then we are we all wish we
had NFL there level of genetics.

1117
01:04:53,960 --> 01:04:57,440
That's that's true. 
So yeah, Deuce, Deuce, healthy 

1118
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:00,760
and active, what what they 
really look like they're doing 

1119
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,160
is what exactly what they 
described in the offseason where

1120
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,240
it's going to be running back by
committee. 

1121
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,720
They're going to use all these 
guys. 

1122
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:10,600
Turpin's going to be involved 
back there, which he was. 

1123
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,720
Zeke is going to be involved, 
Dowdell's going to be involved, 

1124
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:18,040
Lipke's going to be involved. 
So all those guys are involved, 

1125
01:05:18,040 --> 01:05:21,640
but finally they're, they're 
starting to be like, OK, no one 

1126
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:23,200
else is actually all that 
productive. 

1127
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:26,040
They did give CD Lamb a, a carry
out of the backfield. 

1128
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:29,360
So I would expect stuff like 
that to continue. 

1129
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:33,440
But I, I think it's, it's 
consolidating enough on Dowdell 

1130
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,880
that you're, you're pretty happy
with it. 

1131
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:42,160
Yeah, yeah, completely agree. 
Is he is he playable in like the

1132
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,440
dog bowl format this week? 
Because I've been toying around 

1133
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:48,880
with with taking him, but I'm 
really not certain about it. 

1134
01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:51,640
He's he's relatively undrafted. 
You basically get him in the 

1135
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:55,920
last round. 
That that feels like a step too 

1136
01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:57,800
far. 
It's pretty thin, right? 

1137
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,440
Like the? 
It's pretty tin. 

1138
01:06:00,120 --> 01:06:02,640
I I like. 
Like what kind of scenarios do 

1139
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:04,960
you see Rico Dowdell getting 20 
carries? 

1140
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:08,040
Right. 
Yeah, I, I think it's, I think 

1141
01:06:08,040 --> 01:06:11,640
it's pretty tough. 
I just think the ceiling games 

1142
01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:15,160
happen too infrequently. 
And I also think the ceiling's 

1143
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,360
probably not that high. 
So it's like. 

1144
01:06:18,120 --> 01:06:20,520
Right. 
Yeah, probably not like. 

1145
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:22,320
Jason Dobbs is better is a 
better play. 

1146
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:25,360
OK, that's a that's actually 
really good insight. 

1147
01:06:25,360 --> 01:06:29,080
What about Taje Spears? 
Yeah, I think he's a better, 

1148
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:31,040
Yeah, he's a way better play. 
OK. 

1149
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,520
OK. 
All right. 

1150
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:34,960
That's that's good insight 
there. 

1151
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:37,680
All right. 
We talked about this last week. 

1152
01:06:37,680 --> 01:06:42,840
I just want to hit it again so 
listeners can avoid this and and

1153
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,080
have this little bit of alpha, 
but when Joe Mixon is out, you 

1154
01:06:46,080 --> 01:06:49,960
do not play Cam Acres. 
Even in your home leagues, don't

1155
01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,520
play Cam Acres. 
It's not Cam Acres. 

1156
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,960
It's Daria Goombawali. 
OK there. 

1157
01:06:54,120 --> 01:06:56,920
Daria actually got more work 
than Cam Acres this week. 

1158
01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,880
He's getting the passing game 
stuff too. 

1159
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,800
Listen, Cam Acres is a is a 
psyop. 

1160
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:03,480
He's not. 
He's not real. 

1161
01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:06,440
He doesn't exist. 
He's just he's just out there. 

1162
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:09,920
They they literally make fake 
stats up for Cam makers. 

1163
01:07:09,920 --> 01:07:13,240
They put them in the box score. 
It's just like they they do 

1164
01:07:13,480 --> 01:07:16,840
random number generator under 3 
yards per carry. 

1165
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,160
Here's the Cam makers stats. 
Let's just throw those in there 

1166
01:07:19,480 --> 01:07:22,960
so. 
So here, here's here's the one 

1167
01:07:22,960 --> 01:07:25,560
for you, Diary. 
Aguna Balle. 

1168
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:29,760
I probably said that Wrong had 
more than twice the expected 

1169
01:07:29,760 --> 01:07:32,680
fantasy points as Cam makers in 
Week 5. 

1170
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:39,920
He actually had 17 expected 
points in Week 5 versus 8 for 

1171
01:07:39,920 --> 01:07:44,960
rare and count makers. 
Man, Draco, sometimes we know 

1172
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,680
Ball and it just feels so 
fucking good. 

1173
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:51,520
God, I mean, I'm, I'm more proud
of the Daria Goombawali call 

1174
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,600
last week than I am the Joe 
Burrow call. 

1175
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:56,760
I feel like we nailed that one 
and. 

1176
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:58,960
Yeah, we did, and we definitely 
did. 

1177
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,880
I wish I had money. 
I wish you had won a dog bowl 

1178
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,960
seat. 
But we too, we got the process 

1179
01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,240
win. 
Got it. 

1180
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:10,920
I know I told you this, but I'm 
just gonna you you triggered me.

1181
01:08:10,920 --> 01:08:13,200
I'm just gonna bitch on the on 
the airwaves here. 

1182
01:08:13,560 --> 01:08:16,640
Just needed one. 
Tyrone Tracy touchdown 1. 

1183
01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:19,000
Javonte Williams touchdown any 
of those. 

1184
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:22,399
They both had multiple 
opportunities for that Bonex. 

1185
01:08:22,960 --> 01:08:27,439
Bonex vulturing. 
It was I, I guess the the most 

1186
01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:30,080
painful way for it to go for me 
because I was talking about how 

1187
01:08:30,080 --> 01:08:32,000
Bonex might be a viable play in 
week five. 

1188
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:34,640
And then he vultures the 
touchdown that would have sent 

1189
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:37,200
me to the dog bowl if Javonte 
just got it in. 

1190
01:08:37,399 --> 01:08:41,240
By the way, on the play where he
does get that Bonex 1 yard 

1191
01:08:41,240 --> 01:08:44,800
rushing touchdown sneak, they 
were lining up and it really 

1192
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,279
looked like they were going to 
do a Javonte Williams run and 

1193
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:49,880
then the play gets blown dead. 
I can't remember if it was a 

1194
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,000
timeout or a substitution or 
what, but then the next play is 

1195
01:08:53,000 --> 01:08:56,840
the Bonex sneak. 
So there's that. 

1196
01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:01,120
All right, back to actual stuff 
is helpful. 

1197
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:06,439
Yeah, OK. 
I know your notes said about 

1198
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:09,439
Roshan eating into swift goal 
line, such as I think we touched

1199
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,399
on that where we like we're on 
watch for that we are on watch. 

1200
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:17,160
For that, I wanted to talk about
Chase Brown though. 

1201
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:23,600
So Chase Brown finally getting 
more opportunities than and we 

1202
01:09:23,600 --> 01:09:26,120
can actually go to the 
efficiency charts now for this. 

1203
01:09:28,399 --> 01:09:31,920
OK, Chase Brown getting more 
opportunities than Zach Moss. 

1204
01:09:32,279 --> 01:09:35,399
You can see him, he's right on 
the line there, just barely 

1205
01:09:35,399 --> 01:09:39,040
breaking into the 10 to 15 
expected fantasy point category.

1206
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:44,040
I don't believe Zach, oh, Zach 
Moss is on this chart now. 

1207
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:46,040
This is this is what is 
interesting to me. 

1208
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:49,840
Zach Moss had been getting more 
opportunities than Brown. 

1209
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:52,279
That's flipped. 
If you look at the size of their

1210
01:09:52,279 --> 01:09:56,280
bubbles too, Zach Moss has been 
less efficient than Chase Brown 

1211
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,480
with those opportunities. 
If we really think this is a 

1212
01:09:59,480 --> 01:10:01,640
changing of the guard type 
situation. 

1213
01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:05,440
Also, you've got the Moss ankle 
injury too, where that could 

1214
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,280
lead to more Chase Brown playing
time. 

1215
01:10:07,840 --> 01:10:11,880
I mean, not to not to get too 
simplistic with it here, Draco, 

1216
01:10:11,880 --> 01:10:15,920
but what if I just simply 
transpose the location on the 

1217
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,760
chart of Zac Moss and Chase 
Brown, but Chase Brown gets to 

1218
01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:22,600
keep his efficiency. 
I mean, that seems pretty good 

1219
01:10:22,600 --> 01:10:25,960
to me. 
I think Chase Brown is the 

1220
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,560
better rusher and the Bengals 
recognized that now they gave 

1221
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,280
they gave Chase Brown and the 
majority of the rush attempts. 

1222
01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:38,760
I don't know how much the injury
played into that and but it was 

1223
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:43,440
trending to 5050 anyway. 
Zach Moss is clearly the 

1224
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:47,320
preferred trusted passing down 
back. 

1225
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,840
Like they asked him, they, they 
actually asked him to pass block

1226
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:54,360
a decent amount. 
They do not ask Chase Brown to 

1227
01:10:54,360 --> 01:11:00,680
pass block and he runs routes 
and like he gets touches that 

1228
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:06,120
way, but they, they, they just 
don't ask that pass blocking of 

1229
01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:08,880
Chase Brown. 
So I think that gives some 

1230
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:14,960
security to the Zac Moss kind of
like passing down role, but he's

1231
01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,120
pretty I think he's pretty 
vulnerable on on, on the rushing

1232
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:21,880
and it's already sort of sort of
the materialize where Chase 

1233
01:11:21,880 --> 01:11:26,040
Brown is, is getting more rush 
attempts now. 

1234
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,760
Yeah, definitely agree with you 
there. 

1235
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,320
So I I think it's wheels all the
way up for Chase Brown. 

1236
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,840
If you paid, if you paid the 
cheap Chase Brown price in the 

1237
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,320
offseason, you're really happy 
right now. 

1238
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:46,360
If you paid premium Chase Brown 
price, I think you're you're OK,

1239
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:51,400
but you're not ecstatic. 
Yeah, I was trying. 

1240
01:11:51,520 --> 01:11:54,880
So one guy I'm trying to look up
here, I'm trying to look up 

1241
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:58,400
Kenneth Walker. 
How does Kenneth Walker have so 

1242
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:01,520
many expect receiving expected 
fantasy points here? 

1243
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:07,200
What is going on? 
That is a good question. 

1244
01:12:07,600 --> 01:12:11,840
Let me. 
Hang on, better, better 

1245
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:15,440
question, did you know there are
two Kenneth Walker, the thirds 

1246
01:12:15,440 --> 01:12:18,200
in the NFL? 
I actually had no idea. 

1247
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,400
That's very interesting. 
Can you guess what team the 

1248
01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:23,320
other Kenneth Walker the third 
plays for? 

1249
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,880
No. 
PFF has enlisted as a receiver 

1250
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,920
for the Jacksonville Jaguars 
today I. 

1251
01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,880
Wow. 
And he's also Kenneth Walker, 

1252
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:35,080
the third. 
He's also Kenneth. 

1253
01:12:36,440 --> 01:12:38,400
Walker the third. 
That's amazing. 

1254
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:44,920
And so the reason that the 
reason that Kent Walker has so 

1255
01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:49,280
many expected receiving points 
is because he missed a lot of 

1256
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:51,760
games. 
And so then week 5 is weighted 

1257
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:55,000
pretty heavily. 
And then week five he had 13 

1258
01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:58,760
1/2. 
And I think if I'm remembering 

1259
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,920
correctly, they trailed the 
Giants pretty much all game. 

1260
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:07,320
So I mean, in in trailing game 
scripts. 

1261
01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:10,360
And I think sharps missed time 
too. 

1262
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:15,400
And if sharps had missed time 
and you saw that kind of like, 

1263
01:13:15,920 --> 01:13:19,560
hey, they're trailing and then 
Kenneth Walker is getting all 

1264
01:13:19,560 --> 01:13:22,760
this great receiving work, he'd 
be pretty ecstatic that he's 

1265
01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:27,520
kind of like game strip proof. 
I think that that's what the 

1266
01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,680
take away there is that what 
moneys the water a little bit 

1267
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:36,600
is, is the sharps injury. 
Yeah, I mean, man, Kenneth 

1268
01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:40,600
Walker definitely looking like a
pretty big smash here. 

1269
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:43,920
I did not think the this amount 
of receiving work was in his 

1270
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:48,720
bag. 
So if this, I mean, he's not 

1271
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,680
going to get 8 targets every 
week, you know, but if this can 

1272
01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:56,280
continue even like 3 targets a 
week, 4 targets a week. 

1273
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,760
Yeah, he got 7 targets this 
week. 

1274
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:02,320
I I had him as 8 targets. 
Oh, oh, oh, sorry. 

1275
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:04,760
I I counted reception. 
Sorry. 

1276
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,520
OK, you're right. 
But yeah, pretty, pretty 

1277
01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,040
incredible role. 
I got AI, have to be honest. 

1278
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:15,520
So I was listening to the the 
stealing bananas episode with 

1279
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:19,280
Ben and Sean Siegel. 
And Sean is has listed Kenneth 

1280
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,760
Walker as his overall RB1 next 
year. 

1281
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:25,160
They're talking about the, you 
know, early 2025 first and 

1282
01:14:25,160 --> 01:14:28,640
second round rankings. 
And I, I love, I love listening 

1283
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:32,440
to Sean's takes. 
Like I more often than not, I'm 

1284
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,920
I'm with him on stuff, but every
once in a while he says 

1285
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:39,920
something where I like so 
strongly disagree with it. 

1286
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:44,400
I so strongly disagree with it. 
And I'm like, that is 

1287
01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:46,680
ridiculous. 
I'm just, I'm throwing that one 

1288
01:14:46,680 --> 01:14:48,160
out. 
I don't even understand how he 

1289
01:14:48,160 --> 01:14:51,640
got there. 
And then like I, I was like, it 

1290
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,520
was so overreactionary just off 
the huge, you know, 3 touchdown 

1291
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,680
game against Detroit. 
Like, that's not, it's just, you

1292
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,480
know, vividness bias. 
Then he goes out and yes there 

1293
01:15:02,480 --> 01:15:06,440
was the Sharks injury, but it's 
also like I did not think that 

1294
01:15:06,440 --> 01:15:09,080
there was a situation where 
Kenneth Walker would ever get 8 

1295
01:15:09,080 --> 01:15:11,800
targets in a game this season 
so. 

1296
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:15,320
Five last week. 
I I know, but I thought, I mean,

1297
01:15:15,320 --> 01:15:18,200
I just thought like that's a 
huge shootout against Detroit. 

1298
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:22,160
Like they're just like that game
was insane, you know, like the 

1299
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:25,120
the total play volume was crazy.
Like I didn't think. 

1300
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,960
He thought that was a high 
watermark. 

1301
01:15:28,160 --> 01:15:31,320
Yeah, I, I, I literally thought 
that game against Detroit might 

1302
01:15:31,320 --> 01:15:34,640
not be his highest fantasy 
points for the for the season 

1303
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:36,800
cuz he didn't actually have a 
ton of yards in the game. 

1304
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:38,240
He just had a bunch of 
touchdowns. 

1305
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:45,000
But man, Sean, Sean looking 
clairvoyant again with this 

1306
01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,240
Kenneth Walker RB1 early 
prediction. 

1307
01:15:47,960 --> 01:15:53,520
But that does transition me into
my next point, which is I don't 

1308
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,560
think we're going to get any 
legendary running backs this 

1309
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:59,080
season. 
Do you think that's a a 

1310
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,720
reasonable assessment? 
No one hitting the 23 fantasy 

1311
01:16:02,720 --> 01:16:04,480
points. 
Yeah, yeah, I think, I think the

1312
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:08,360
RB1, the RB one season you got 
this year is probably not a 

1313
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:09,960
legendary season. 
Yeah. 

1314
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,240
And I, I think we can move on to
the next chart because there are

1315
01:16:15,240 --> 01:16:17,600
a couple or actually, we'll, 
we'll stay on this one for one 

1316
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:19,840
second. 
Sorry, but I, I wanted to 

1317
01:16:19,840 --> 01:16:22,840
highlight two of the guys that 
were probably two of the 

1318
01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,800
favourites to put up legendary 
seasons going into the year. 

1319
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,760
And that's Bijon Robinson, who 
he can see now this is, Are you 

1320
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:34,040
ready to be depressed if you're 
a Bijon Robinson truther in this

1321
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,680
10 to 15 expected fantasy point 
band, You can see Bijon 

1322
01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:39,680
Robinson. 
He's right here, right behind 

1323
01:16:39,680 --> 01:16:42,160
Naji Harris smack in the middle 
of the chart. 

1324
01:16:42,880 --> 01:16:45,600
Now you know that that could be 
OK. 

1325
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:47,960
He you know, he was a little 
banged up. 

1326
01:16:48,120 --> 01:16:52,400
Algier got more opportunity than
we, you know, we might expect 

1327
01:16:52,480 --> 01:16:55,840
maybe over the rest of the 
season he gets more opportunity.

1328
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,360
Bijon isn't even the best B 
Robinson on this chart. 

1329
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,640
Brian Robinson has more expected
fantasy points than Bijon 

1330
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,560
Robinson. 
So little little concerning. 

1331
01:17:05,640 --> 01:17:09,080
But I do like this week as a 
good get right spot for Bijon 

1332
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:13,920
into the Panthers. 
I it to me, it's like a don't 

1333
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,880
overthink it kind of spot, like 
here you go. 

1334
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:18,440
Here's the match. 
If you dream of. 

1335
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:22,680
I mean, you just saw the Falcons
clear. 

1336
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:27,800
For better or worse, the Falcons
care about public perception of 

1337
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:32,080
their players and how they're 
accumulating stats, which I I 

1338
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,360
know that we all hated Arthur 
Smith saying like stats are for 

1339
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:37,040
losers. 
I don't care about stats. 

1340
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:42,960
I I don't want to be like the 
antithesis of like the Arthur 

1341
01:17:42,960 --> 01:17:47,720
Smith hater here, but I also 
think that team saying like, Oh 

1342
01:17:47,720 --> 01:17:50,200
yeah, you're right. 
We def because everyone's upset 

1343
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,080
about us not involving that guy.
We're going to involve that guy 

1344
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:57,960
like Kyle Pitts getting forced a
bunch of targets where he looked

1345
01:17:57,960 --> 01:18:01,800
OK, but like, I'm pretty sure 
that if those targets had gone 

1346
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:04,760
to Drake London or Darnell 
Mooney, like they were just or 

1347
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:06,680
be Sean Robinson, like they were
better served. 

1348
01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:08,800
So. 
But the Falcons seem to care. 

1349
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:13,280
Like the Falcons care about what
Jason Kelsey is saying that, oh,

1350
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,800
you need to use Kyle Pitts. 
And then they come out and say, 

1351
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:18,320
oh, don't don't worry. 
We yeah, that's a good idea. 

1352
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:22,080
We're going to do it. 
It just it, it feels weird to me

1353
01:18:22,840 --> 01:18:25,960
that you're going to let public 
sentiment dictate the usage of 

1354
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:30,360
your players, especially when it
seems like Kyle Pitts might not 

1355
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:34,440
be very good. 
But I think Bijan Robinson is 

1356
01:18:34,440 --> 01:18:38,080
very good and I kind of think 
that this just might be a spot 

1357
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,520
where they want to get him 
going. 

1358
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:43,120
So and it's. 
The only thing about Pitts, so 

1359
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:48,280
he he he did only have 15% 
targets per at run like in in 

1360
01:18:48,280 --> 01:18:52,440
getting involved. 
And so I I do wonder if like 

1361
01:18:52,440 --> 01:18:54,440
that was just a function of them
passing more. 

1362
01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,160
It happened early though in the 
game too. 

1363
01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:59,600
Like Pitts was schemed a couple 
things very early. 

1364
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:03,000
I think he had three targets in 
the first, maybe not the first 

1365
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:07,360
quarter, but like he had three 
targets almost immediately and 

1366
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,800
there there was some scheme to 
stuff there too, so. 

1367
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,160
Anyway, you you noticed a 
concerted effort to get him 

1368
01:19:15,160 --> 01:19:17,600
involved. 
Yeah, but let's let's move to 

1369
01:19:17,600 --> 01:19:21,600
the next chart here 'cause But 
you know, we talked about Dijon 

1370
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:25,880
Robinson as one of the favorites
to to have a legendary season. 

1371
01:19:26,240 --> 01:19:29,240
The other guy we would have 
expected to be in contention for

1372
01:19:29,240 --> 01:19:34,520
that is Breece Hall, who has 
just put up an absolute, Yeah, 

1373
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:38,160
this one, it's Breece Hall up 
there in the 15 to 20 expected 

1374
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,320
fantasy point range, but 
terrible efficiency. 

1375
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,800
I mean him and Devon at Chan, 
two of the the least efficient 

1376
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:49,120
backs in the league. 
Now that that evil man Robert 

1377
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:51,960
Sala is gone. 
God, I mean the. 

1378
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,600
Sun will shine upon Breeze Hall 
once more. 

1379
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,520
The Jets just seem like such a 
dumpster fire. 

1380
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:01,600
I don't know. 
I really, I do feel strongly 

1381
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,760
that he's a very, very talented 
running back. 

1382
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:08,640
I mean, I'm a little confused as
to what we've seen these last 

1383
01:20:08,640 --> 01:20:09,880
few weeks. 
He hasn't. 

1384
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:13,400
I think he hasn't forced any 
missed tackles in these past 

1385
01:20:13,440 --> 01:20:16,560
couple weeks. 
It's a good, good stat nugget 

1386
01:20:16,560 --> 01:20:20,880
that I heard. 
Yeah, just not looking great. 

1387
01:20:20,880 --> 01:20:24,680
I mean, the opportunities 
weren't incredible this last 

1388
01:20:24,680 --> 01:20:28,360
game. 
But I mean, and then you've got,

1389
01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,080
you know, your your two games 
removed from the really 

1390
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:36,320
atrocious Broncos game. 
So I don't know how, how worried

1391
01:20:36,320 --> 01:20:42,120
are you about Bree Saul? 
And I'm honestly, I'm not that 

1392
01:20:42,120 --> 01:20:47,760
worried and I do feel like stuff
like efficiency stats can like 

1393
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:52,760
wax and wane over time. 
And the big worry I guess would 

1394
01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:55,640
be like just true jets, systemic
stuff. 

1395
01:20:56,440 --> 01:20:58,360
That's that's my biggest concern
because I think. 

1396
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:04,480
Bruce is good if The Jets like 
haven't an epic meltdown and 

1397
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:08,800
then your sealing case is just 
gone. 

1398
01:21:08,800 --> 01:21:12,360
I think you still have some 
floor where like a lot of the 

1399
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:14,040
offense has to run through him 
anyway. 

1400
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,720
So like, you're not going to get
it's not going to be abysmal, 

1401
01:21:17,720 --> 01:21:22,720
but your ceiling is just gone. 
And if The Jets can kind of get 

1402
01:21:22,720 --> 01:21:27,680
it figured out, circle the 
wagons like he's going to get 

1403
01:21:27,680 --> 01:21:31,040
going. 
Like, I'm not worried one way or

1404
01:21:31,040 --> 01:21:34,640
another. 
Like even if he has a tough time

1405
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:39,920
in the box and he's, he, he will
get targets, he's going to, he's

1406
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:45,400
going to have breakaway runs. 
And I like I, I, I think you're 

1407
01:21:45,400 --> 01:21:50,760
going to be OK. 
And I, I, I agree with you that 

1408
01:21:50,760 --> 01:21:54,200
like the legendary season is 
kind of off the table now, but 

1409
01:21:54,200 --> 01:21:57,560
I, I still think you can get 
something like 16 to 17 points a

1410
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,640
game the rest of the way. 
I like think that that that 

1411
01:22:00,640 --> 01:22:03,080
scenario is still like pretty 
pretty plausible. 

1412
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,920
Yeah, he yeah, I'm I'm pretty 
worried about The Jets systemic 

1413
01:22:08,920 --> 01:22:12,360
stuff, but who knows, maybe the 
Robert Sala. 

1414
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:16,240
Apparently Robert Sala was 
really not liked by the players.

1415
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:20,240
Is some of the like early rumor 
mill stuff that I'm seeing 

1416
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:23,880
Makai. 
Well, Makai Becton did. 

1417
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:25,560
Did you see the Makai Becton 
thing? 

1418
01:22:26,000 --> 01:22:31,480
No. 
He posted the RIP Bozo picture 

1419
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:36,000
right after Robert Sala got 
fired on his Twitter. 

1420
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:39,560
Immediately deleted the tweet 
but man. 

1421
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:40,720
That's it. 
Got out there. 

1422
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,640
Yeah, Oh yeah, I got out there 
so harsh criticism from a Kai 

1423
01:22:44,640 --> 01:22:48,480
Beckton, Robert Salas. 
So who knows, maybe, maybe the 

1424
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:51,640
sentiment in the locker room 
changes. 

1425
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,160
I don't know. 
I'm glad you're you're less 

1426
01:22:54,160 --> 01:22:59,760
worried the the Devana Chan 
efficiency stuff also 

1427
01:22:59,760 --> 01:23:03,720
concerning. 
But I I think, I mean, I didn't,

1428
01:23:03,720 --> 01:23:07,360
I didn't go and actually do this
because I kind of know what I 

1429
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:11,480
would see if I did it. 
But really, I think a big part 

1430
01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:15,480
of it has just been like, yeah, 
there hasn't been Tua in a bunch

1431
01:23:15,480 --> 01:23:16,840
of their games that they've 
played now. 

1432
01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:19,680
They haven't had Mostert up 
until this week. 

1433
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:24,040
And him just having to carry the
full workload is probably not 

1434
01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:27,960
ideal for him, like having peak 
efficiency and being able to be 

1435
01:23:28,440 --> 01:23:31,760
maximally explosive. 
And I think if you just went in 

1436
01:23:31,760 --> 01:23:35,040
there and, you know, fudge the 
numbers a little bit, What if 

1437
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:39,440
what if you inserted inserted 
180 yard Devana Chan breakaway 

1438
01:23:39,440 --> 01:23:42,640
rushing touchdown his stats? 
What if you just pretended that 

1439
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:44,480
it happened this year? 
Like I'm pretty sure the 

1440
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:48,200
efficiency numbers all of a 
sudden go back to pretty good, 

1441
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:51,440
right? 
So it's like, like you said, the

1442
01:23:51,440 --> 01:23:53,240
efficiency stuff can wax and 
wane. 

1443
01:23:53,240 --> 01:23:56,880
I'm not concerned about a Chan. 
I don't think that, you know, 

1444
01:23:57,000 --> 01:23:59,840
you look like he did last season
just by accident. 

1445
01:23:59,880 --> 01:24:03,080
So he's definitely one we're 
down the stretch. 

1446
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:09,240
He could be interesting. 
Oh, Cream Hunt looking like the 

1447
01:24:09,240 --> 01:24:12,440
waiver pick up of the year, just
very solid. 

1448
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:16,240
Like in in your home leagues or 
high stakes leagues like cream 

1449
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:20,120
hunt, absolute smash. 
He's getting, he's basically 

1450
01:24:20,120 --> 01:24:24,000
getting the Pacheco roll, like 
more or less, you know? 

1451
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:27,920
So just I'm just looking up some
of these advanced stats here. 

1452
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:31,480
This does. 
No, this does include week 5. 

1453
01:24:31,480 --> 01:24:36,560
Actually, those include week 5 
advanced stats per Rotavis and 

1454
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:43,480
like 2 of the highest of the top
five highest stuff rates. 

1455
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:48,800
So Devana Chan has been stuffed 
on 29% of his runs, hit at the 

1456
01:24:48,800 --> 01:24:54,400
line 52% of his runs, Breece 
Hall hit stuffed 28% and hit at 

1457
01:24:54,400 --> 01:25:02,200
the line 51%. 
And their their evasion stuff is

1458
01:25:03,040 --> 01:25:06,040
where is it at? 
Divine and chance evasion has 

1459
01:25:06,040 --> 01:25:09,600
been bad and Breece Hall's 
evasion has been like actually 

1460
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:13,360
solid. 
I think you can pretty easily 

1461
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,760
tell yourself a story of how 
like the Dolphins turn that 

1462
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:21,960
offense around with you of being
healthy and with Breach's stuff 

1463
01:25:22,080 --> 01:25:24,920
like a lot of that still seems 
pretty solid. 

1464
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:28,040
It's like a lot of this the kind
of like advanced metrics seem 

1465
01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:32,520
solid, but it that does feel 
like the offense is truly 

1466
01:25:32,520 --> 01:25:36,560
failing him. 
I don't know how that improves, 

1467
01:25:36,560 --> 01:25:41,120
but maybe maybe they end up 
playing like weaker defenses and

1468
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,640
you and and and The Jets kind of
figured that out. 

1469
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:48,680
Sorry to bring it back just. 
No, no, I think that's that's 

1470
01:25:48,680 --> 01:25:52,960
useful context. 
I didn't, I didn't really have 

1471
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:56,320
any other running backs to touch
on here. 

1472
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,640
I feel like we got through most 
of them. 

1473
01:25:58,640 --> 01:26:00,720
Did you have anyone before you 
move on? 

1474
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,040
And no, no, no, I think, I think
we're good to move on. 

1475
01:26:06,520 --> 01:26:10,800
So on to the tight end chart and
so tight end utilization and 

1476
01:26:10,800 --> 01:26:15,200
efficiency. 
So the green bar is what 

1477
01:26:15,200 --> 01:26:18,760
percentage of team dropbacks are
they running a route? 

1478
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:22,840
Then we also look at what 
percentage of those team 

1479
01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:24,560
dropbacks are they pass 
blocking. 

1480
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:29,440
So we get that kind of full 
pass, our dropback participation

1481
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,480
rate and then we also look at a 
dot, we look at targets for our 

1482
01:26:33,480 --> 01:26:38,000
run. 
And one thing I wanted to note, 

1483
01:26:38,000 --> 01:26:42,480
I should have said this much 
earlier, I think we said it in 

1484
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:48,160
last week, a lot of these charts
are four week rolling. 

1485
01:26:48,600 --> 01:26:53,840
So I'll just point it out. 
The running back charts and the 

1486
01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:55,680
tight end chart are four week 
rolling. 

1487
01:26:55,680 --> 01:26:59,760
So it's week two true 5. 
I, I believe we did. 

1488
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,560
We did say that last week, but I
I should have said it sooner. 

1489
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:07,160
Yeah, good, good shout there 
because for these positions 

1490
01:27:07,160 --> 01:27:10,640
where, you know, utilization is 
really, really important for 

1491
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:13,880
them, we want to be on top of 
the current trends. 

1492
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:18,440
And we don't want to let what 
happened, you know, say we're in

1493
01:27:18,440 --> 01:27:19,960
week 8. 
We don't want to let what 

1494
01:27:19,960 --> 01:27:25,200
happened in week 1 drive what 
we're thinking about a player 

1495
01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:27,880
all the way in week 8. 
It gets good context to have, 

1496
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:31,400
but we don't want to miss out on
emerging trends because we're 

1497
01:27:31,440 --> 01:27:35,240
keeping, you know, week one in 
there when we we just kind of 

1498
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:38,880
need to file that away for 
context on the player's stats. 

1499
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:41,200
But we want to be able to catch 
that as it. 

1500
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:45,400
Emerges and so Travis Kelce, a 
good example here where since 

1501
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:50,760
week 4, so week four and five, 
he's up to he's up to 90% rate 

1502
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:56,160
of participation, 27% target for
a run versus 21 on the full 

1503
01:27:56,160 --> 01:28:00,320
season and a 7.2 A dot in the 
last two weeks. 

1504
01:28:01,080 --> 01:28:03,200
And so like that, that that's 
the kind of stuff that we're 

1505
01:28:03,200 --> 01:28:06,000
trying to catch. 
Yeah, Travis Kelce is back to 

1506
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:08,760
Travis Kelce now after Roshi 
Rice went down. 

1507
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:13,520
So the the only solace you can 
take if you're a Roshi Rice 

1508
01:28:13,520 --> 01:28:16,080
drafter was that if you're 
drafting a lot of Travis Kelce 

1509
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,360
as well, congratulations, you're
you're Travis Kelce. 

1510
01:28:19,400 --> 01:28:22,880
Shares are now saved because 
they certainly looked dead while

1511
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:27,720
Rice was out on the field. 
So one one guy I wanted to point

1512
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:32,480
out here who's I would fully 
expect his TPRR to come down 

1513
01:28:32,480 --> 01:28:36,200
substantially is Dallas Goddard.
You're, you're getting right now

1514
01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:39,280
we've got four weeks in here 
where you were either missing 

1515
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,720
A.J. 
Brown or Devonta Smith in every 

1516
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:46,120
week, but one of these four 
weeks here and then last week 

1517
01:28:46,120 --> 01:28:51,280
you're missing both of them. 
And then or, or yeah, last week 

1518
01:28:51,280 --> 01:28:54,800
you're missing both of them and 
then this week you get the buy. 

1519
01:28:55,960 --> 01:29:00,760
So I think that coming out of 
the buy this week, you're you're

1520
01:29:00,760 --> 01:29:04,000
going to see a little bit less 
of Goddard and more of A.J. 

1521
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:09,560
Brown, more Devonta Smith. 
So I don't, I don't really think

1522
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,840
there's too much actionable here
to do with it. 

1523
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:14,200
Like if you have Dallas Goddard 
and he's your best tight end in 

1524
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:15,760
the manage league you're 
probably starting in. 

1525
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,520
Like I don't think he can really
get one over on your league 

1526
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,960
mates if it's a league where you
have trading and trade in. 

1527
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:24,240
Like unless people are really 
not paying attention to the fact

1528
01:29:24,240 --> 01:29:25,600
that the Eagles were missing 
weapons. 

1529
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:29,280
Like maybe you can just do like 
a desperation try and sell high 

1530
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,400
thing for Dallas Coddart and get
more than he's worth. 

1531
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:34,280
But I think he'll still be fine 
the rest of the season too. 

1532
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:36,160
I'm not saying he's dead now, it
just. 

1533
01:29:36,280 --> 01:29:39,040
But he didn't suddenly become an
elite, elite tight end, right? 

1534
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:42,680
Right. 
So one, one note I had here. 

1535
01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:48,080
So Trey McBride, his underlying 
metrics last week was awesome. 

1536
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:52,640
So he he actually had a, he had 
17 1/2 expected fantasy points 

1537
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,600
last week. 
He ran bad on on touchdown, so 

1538
01:29:55,600 --> 01:30:02,200
he didn't quite get there, but 
he had a 33% target for run on a

1539
01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:08,360
6.6 A dot and obviously some 
some good, some good touchdown 

1540
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,640
equity that he didn't capitalize
on. 

1541
01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:15,280
But I I feel like an elite tight
end season for Trey McBride is 

1542
01:30:15,320 --> 01:30:18,880
is pretty well intact. 
Oh, it's, I think it's it. 

1543
01:30:18,880 --> 01:30:20,640
We're currently watching it 
happen. 

1544
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,200
You know this. 
This is the. 

1545
01:30:22,520 --> 01:30:23,760
Right. 
Well, we haven't, we haven't 

1546
01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:25,240
seen that. 
We haven't gotten the points yet

1547
01:30:25,240 --> 01:30:26,720
is what I'm saying. 
Even though we haven't gotten 

1548
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:31,840
the points from Trey McBride, 
like the underlying metrics say 

1549
01:30:31,840 --> 01:30:36,080
that a Smash Trey McBride game 
is, is, is is going to happen 

1550
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:38,120
and we're going to get, we'll 
probably get a couple of them. 

1551
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,840
Well and people, So what people 
don't understand about the elite

1552
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:47,000
tight end stuff, the elite tight
end does not mean this guy nukes

1553
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:51,000
every week. 
What it means is most guys suck 

1554
01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,160
every week, but this is one of 
the few guys that can 

1555
01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:58,520
legitimately nuke and right now.
And then your. 

1556
01:30:58,560 --> 01:31:01,440
Four games are still pretty good
and your four games are a lot 

1557
01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:04,800
better where when everyone else 
sucks and they're getting two to

1558
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,040
four fantasy points a week 
because they suck. 

1559
01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:10,600
Trey McBride is getting like 6 
to 9 fantasy points per week 

1560
01:31:10,600 --> 01:31:14,240
when he has his four-game. 
And so that's you might not like

1561
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:15,680
it. 
This is what elite tight end 

1562
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:17,520
looks like. 
If you didn't understand that 

1563
01:31:17,520 --> 01:31:19,960
when you're signing up for the 
elite tight ends, like I hate to

1564
01:31:19,960 --> 01:31:22,440
break it to you now, but this is
what it looks like. 

1565
01:31:22,680 --> 01:31:26,880
And, and it's part of the reason
why it works Like you're, you're

1566
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,120
really hoping that that this is 
the way that things play out. 

1567
01:31:30,400 --> 01:31:34,040
Because in a, in a basketball 
tournament where you're, it 

1568
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:37,960
literally is all going to come 
down to single weeks when like 

1569
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:42,720
like this last week, Tucker 
Kraft and Brock Bowers were 

1570
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:44,800
literal gods. 
You know, like if you didn't 

1571
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:48,080
have Tucker Craft or Brock 
Bowers in your tight end slot, I

1572
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,480
guess George Kittle also had the
touchdown to like kind of keep 

1573
01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:53,760
him in in there. 
But outside of those three guys 

1574
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:55,840
is like, all right, well, there 
weren't, weren't really any 

1575
01:31:55,840 --> 01:31:58,120
tight end points to speak of 
this week. 

1576
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,840
And so that's just that's what 
the whole thing is about. 

1577
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:05,440
It's like there's not going to 
be very many good scores, but 

1578
01:32:06,160 --> 01:32:09,040
it's a lot easier to identify 
where the scores come from 

1579
01:32:09,680 --> 01:32:13,240
because these guys have these 
profiles that are just different

1580
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:17,840
and like it's not even that it's
not that hard to identify. 

1581
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,680
Like just look at this chart. 
The chart kind of tells you 

1582
01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:23,800
everything you need to know. 
Let's see Travis Kelsey, ton of 

1583
01:32:23,800 --> 01:32:28,960
ton of routes, great route rate,
21% TPR, pretty solid 8 dot 7.8.

1584
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:35,080
All right, next guy Trey McBride
26% TPRR lot of routes 7.6 A dot

1585
01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:39,680
looks pretty good like. 
It's George. 

1586
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:43,640
It's kind of self-explanatory. 
27 percent 7.8 A dot looks 

1587
01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:47,520
pretty good, you know, like so. 
One that we can throw out though

1588
01:32:48,200 --> 01:32:52,200
down here that is pure noise is 
Greg Dolcic. 

1589
01:32:52,720 --> 01:32:55,440
He had, he had like an 
aberration game where he got 

1590
01:32:55,480 --> 01:32:58,360
something like 8 targets. 
I want to say in Week 2, this is

1591
01:32:58,360 --> 01:32:59,960
just a feature of the rolling 
charts. 

1592
01:32:59,960 --> 01:33:03,440
And then I believe he also 
missed some games in there or 

1593
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:06,320
missed a game. 
I want to say anyway, Greg 

1594
01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,200
Dolson's stuff is fake. 
It was it was literally just all

1595
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:12,160
one weird game or he got a shit 
load of targets and then did 

1596
01:33:12,160 --> 01:33:14,320
nothing with them. 
So that's not. 

1597
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:17,200
A and he he may run. 
He probably ran routes in other 

1598
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:19,480
games, but he didn't get a 
target. 

1599
01:33:19,480 --> 01:33:20,880
He doesn't get picked up in the 
data. 

1600
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:24,880
So that's we could, we should 
probably just remove Greg 

1601
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,880
Dulcich next week and that's a 
great call. 

1602
01:33:28,400 --> 01:33:30,200
Yeah. 
But again, it's it's part of 

1603
01:33:30,200 --> 01:33:33,800
why, you know, as much as we are
spreadsheet virgins and we're 

1604
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:36,880
like in the data, we always talk
about like how critically 

1605
01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:39,920
important it is to provide 
context with the data and like, 

1606
01:33:39,920 --> 01:33:43,760
pay attention to how these stats
are being compiled, watch the 

1607
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,760
games, understand what's 
happening because it can give 

1608
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,240
you quite a bit of context. 
And it's just so like what one 

1609
01:33:50,240 --> 01:33:53,560
piece of context that I got from
this week and it's it's actually

1610
01:33:53,560 --> 01:33:57,080
lining up with the stats, but 
it's it's contrary to what 

1611
01:33:57,080 --> 01:33:59,800
you're seeing in the box scores 
is Dalton Kincaid. 

1612
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:04,200
So with Khalil Shakur out, I 
mean, the Bill's already putrid 

1613
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:08,040
passing game looked even more 
putrid, but not for lack of 

1614
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,080
trying to get Dalton Kincaid 
going. 

1615
01:34:10,080 --> 01:34:13,280
They they tried. 
He was pretty close to a really 

1616
01:34:13,280 --> 01:34:15,120
big play. 
Josh Allen actually missed him 

1617
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:17,160
on a deep shot. 
It was just a badly thrown ball.

1618
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:22,520
But you know, it is it is what 
it is Dalton Kincaid. 

1619
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,960
There is a universe where Josh 
Allen hits Dalton Kincaid and he

1620
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:29,320
has an absolutely monster game. 
He's the Titan one on the week. 

1621
01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:34,280
And you like if you've listened 
to this show for the last, you 

1622
01:34:34,280 --> 01:34:37,680
know, year and change that. 
We've been doing it, you know 

1623
01:34:37,680 --> 01:34:39,200
that. 
I'm like captain of the Dalton 

1624
01:34:39,240 --> 01:34:42,640
Kincaid Hater fan club. 
Like, I promise you I'm telling 

1625
01:34:42,640 --> 01:34:45,880
the truth if I tell you that 
Dalton Kincaid looks like he's 

1626
01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:49,280
in a halfway decent spot. 
The only like the warts on the 

1627
01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:52,800
Dalton Kincaid frog are his 
route participation hasn't been 

1628
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:59,040
fantastic this season, but I to 
me, this reads like a situation 

1629
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:02,720
of necessity. 
The Bills have nothing they they

1630
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:04,640
cannot pass the ball to save 
their lives. 

1631
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:06,480
They also don't want to pass the
ball. 

1632
01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:09,760
So like the motivation part of 
it is troubling, but I think 

1633
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:12,200
that they're going to lose 
enough games playing like 

1634
01:35:12,200 --> 01:35:15,560
they're they're they're not 
playing great football like they

1635
01:35:15,560 --> 01:35:17,960
were they were in the game 
against the Texans. 

1636
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,360
By the grace of God, Like if 
Nico Collins doesn't pull his 

1637
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:25,440
hamstring on that play, I think 
the Texans just dog walk the 

1638
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:28,040
bills all day because I don't 
think the Bills are all that 

1639
01:35:28,040 --> 01:35:31,120
good. 
They're just like they're 

1640
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,600
they're feisty, They're hanging 
in to games because they have 

1641
01:35:34,600 --> 01:35:37,200
Josh Allen, who's one of the 
best quarterbacks in the league 

1642
01:35:37,200 --> 01:35:38,720
and he could just do magic 
stuff. 

1643
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:42,000
But like, the way they're 
running the offense is stupid. 

1644
01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:45,280
Like, full stop. 
It's not the way that you win 

1645
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:48,000
football games in the NFL in 
2024. 

1646
01:35:48,480 --> 01:35:52,360
And so I think that eventually 
they will figure that out and by

1647
01:35:52,360 --> 01:35:55,680
sheer necessity have to utilize 
Dalton Kincaid more. 

1648
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,160
And we're getting enough of 
these peripherals that if the 

1649
01:36:00,160 --> 01:36:03,480
route rate goes up, I think 
Dalton Kincaid's actually pretty

1650
01:36:03,480 --> 01:36:05,240
interesting. 
Yeah. 

1651
01:36:05,240 --> 01:36:10,360
So when they pass a lot his 
route rate goes up a lot. 

1652
01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:14,200
So he he was he was up to 78% in
week five. 

1653
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:21,240
He actually had a 21% target 
rate run A17A dot in in week 5. 

1654
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:26,960
And so if if, if you can, if if 
you change the projection so 

1655
01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:30,880
that they actually had a lot of 
drop backs and Kincaid was 

1656
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,080
participating in a lot of that, 
he would project for a decent 

1657
01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:37,600
amount of points. 
And the problem is that like 

1658
01:36:38,400 --> 01:36:41,960
you're getting double hit on the
on the low drop back games where

1659
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:46,280
like there's not as many and 
he's getting less of them and. 

1660
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:51,640
Yeah. 
But I agree with you, if you got

1661
01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,280
a kind of situation change there
where they actually did start 

1662
01:36:54,280 --> 01:36:59,040
tossing the ball more, it'd be 
like an asymmetric increase to 

1663
01:36:59,040 --> 01:37:03,440
his his projection. 
Yeah, it. 

1664
01:37:04,560 --> 01:37:07,240
Took her craft is kind of 
interesting too, because you 

1665
01:37:07,240 --> 01:37:10,520
kind of noted that, hey, he was 
one of the big scores on the 

1666
01:37:10,520 --> 01:37:13,120
week. 
I'm having a tough time seeing 

1667
01:37:13,120 --> 01:37:19,520
how to like think about that 
because like the I guess you're 

1668
01:37:19,520 --> 01:37:21,680
getting you are getting Rep 
participation. 

1669
01:37:21,720 --> 01:37:27,920
So he's like at 80% last week 
and then I guess that's what the

1670
01:37:27,920 --> 01:37:32,480
most grave injury to and you're 
getting target spread run and 

1671
01:37:33,000 --> 01:37:35,840
over the full season or close to
20%. 

1672
01:37:36,360 --> 01:37:39,320
But then it's just like a tree, 
a dot, so. 

1673
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:44,000
I think it's yeah, my my read on
that is that's the role that he 

1674
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,800
serves in the offense. 
Kind of like, yeah. 

1675
01:37:46,520 --> 01:37:49,080
It is for The Jets. 
Because a lot the. 

1676
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:53,760
Way he converts that into points
is if he catches a short and 

1677
01:37:53,760 --> 01:37:57,040
then makes the big plays like he
did that. 

1678
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:59,240
That's probably pretty swingy 
week to week. 

1679
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:03,880
Yeah, it's swingy week to week. 
It's, I think it's pretty good 

1680
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,920
in it's pretty good in tight end
premium formats, though, because

1681
01:38:07,920 --> 01:38:11,560
I think that you can end up with
weeks where Tucker craft earning

1682
01:38:11,560 --> 01:38:14,880
enough of these little dinky 
targets where he's just going to

1683
01:38:14,880 --> 01:38:16,920
PPR scam his way to a really 
good game. 

1684
01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:19,840
The other thing about Tucker 
Craft now when they, when they 

1685
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:23,120
drafted Musgrave and Kraft in 
the same draft class, both of 

1686
01:38:23,120 --> 01:38:25,240
these guys were really good 
athletes. 

1687
01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:28,080
So that was that was the appeal 
of both of them. 

1688
01:38:28,360 --> 01:38:31,720
And I, I remember being at least
interested in Tucker Craft last 

1689
01:38:31,720 --> 01:38:34,160
year just because of his 
athleticism. 

1690
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,960
Now it seems like that's playing
out where he, he's getting this 

1691
01:38:37,960 --> 01:38:41,520
big yak. 
Like I, I'm pretty sure like the

1692
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:44,440
Packers really like him. 
They're using him over Musgrave.

1693
01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:48,240
Granted, Musgrave was hurt this 
game, but we already saw Kraft's

1694
01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,960
role emerging prior to the 
Musgrave injury. 

1695
01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:55,880
And also, Kraft had Kraft had an
uphill battle to get this role 

1696
01:38:55,880 --> 01:39:00,120
because Kraft tore his pack off 
the bone this offseason and 

1697
01:39:00,120 --> 01:39:02,480
missed a big chunk of camp, you 
know? 

1698
01:39:03,040 --> 01:39:09,880
So it's to me, it's like he had 
every chance to, like, Musgrave 

1699
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,680
had every chance to win the 
role, and Kraft still ripped it 

1700
01:39:12,680 --> 01:39:14,960
away from him. 
So I kind of think they like 

1701
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:19,200
Kraft a lot, yeah. 
And I just, I feel pretty secure

1702
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:23,440
about his role given that he he 
had it from the jump. 

1703
01:39:25,560 --> 01:39:29,000
The way the offense operates 
just hey, it's a very efficient 

1704
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:31,640
offense that wants to pass the 
ball deep down the field. 

1705
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:35,280
And then you have craft for 
these easier underneath thing. 

1706
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:39,920
Like I kind of think that when 
you get into tougher matchups 

1707
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,400
for the Packers, you're playing 
in stronger defenses. 

1708
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:45,400
Like those are probably going to
be some of Tucker craft's best 

1709
01:39:45,400 --> 01:39:49,000
games because if defenses are 
able to successfully take away 

1710
01:39:49,000 --> 01:39:52,440
all this deep stuff they want to
do, then Tucker craft might just

1711
01:39:52,440 --> 01:39:54,840
eat out a necessity for the 
Packers to keep moving the ball 

1712
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,600
down the field. 
So I'm I get that, you know, we 

1713
01:39:58,600 --> 01:40:01,480
want to, we want to flag really 
low A dots like that and say 

1714
01:40:01,480 --> 01:40:04,480
like, hey, maybe this is a 
concern, but. 

1715
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:10,120
At least for Tucker Craft right 
now, like I'm, I'm not overly 

1716
01:40:10,120 --> 01:40:13,320
concerned about it, but I I need
to see it play out a little bit 

1717
01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:15,760
more to see if it's something 
where it's like, Oh, yeah, 

1718
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:19,080
actually that is a concern 
because he just does, he does K 

1719
01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,800
dot things most weeks, you know?
Right. 

1720
01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:26,640
Like I, I guess Sam, So 
obviously we play, I, I play a 

1721
01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:29,000
lot of FFPC. 
You played a lot of FSPC. 

1722
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:32,280
So we're happy with that in 
tight end premium, but then in 

1723
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:36,760
dog bowl stuff after he puts a 
ginormous week, like I don't 

1724
01:40:36,760 --> 01:40:39,480
think you can chase that in like
how people you are, can you? 

1725
01:40:39,880 --> 01:40:44,120
He's like he goes probably like 
fourth round ish right now, 

1726
01:40:44,120 --> 01:40:48,640
like, you know, 334 turn, I want
to say in the dog bowl 

1727
01:40:48,640 --> 01:40:51,320
currently. 
It's been hard for me to get him

1728
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:54,280
just because a lot of people are
are taking him early. 

1729
01:40:55,200 --> 01:40:57,840
So you probably don't chase it, 
but I do. 

1730
01:40:57,840 --> 01:41:00,880
The, the tricky part is I like 
the game environment against the

1731
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:05,920
Cardinals as a spot. 
And now you know what the, the, 

1732
01:41:06,200 --> 01:41:08,600
as I think through this, you 
know what the sharp way is to 

1733
01:41:08,600 --> 01:41:12,280
play it is you just go back to 
Dantevion Wix or you go to Romeo

1734
01:41:12,280 --> 01:41:15,520
Dobbs cause Jaden Reid's like, 
you know, early first round 

1735
01:41:15,520 --> 01:41:18,360
pick. 
Wix and Dobbs are both mostly 

1736
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:21,680
undrafted. 
And it's the same thing that we 

1737
01:41:21,680 --> 01:41:25,600
talked about last week with Wix.
And you know, like it can, it 

1738
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:27,840
can go to anyone here. 
It doesn't have to just be read 

1739
01:41:27,840 --> 01:41:29,840
like we saw it go to Kraft last 
week. 

1740
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:34,320
I think this is just a good 
enough offense where you can you

1741
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:36,760
can take, take the Perry and 
play. 

1742
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:41,760
And I know, I know the ADP is is
driven by yeah, six there and 

1743
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:44,200
person drafts, but I'm looking 
at this ADP. 

1744
01:41:44,200 --> 01:41:49,600
So it took her craft 29.3. 
But then you have barriers 25.6,

1745
01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:53,320
you have LaPorte at 27.1 and 
it's like you're paying like 

1746
01:41:53,880 --> 01:41:57,440
you're getting like a two or 
three pick discount on like way 

1747
01:41:57,440 --> 01:42:01,800
better place. 
Yeah, I mean, I, I, I don't even

1748
01:42:01,800 --> 01:42:04,400
want to tell you how much Brock 
Bowers I have this week. 

1749
01:42:04,840 --> 01:42:08,360
I, I've been getting Brock 
Bowers at like pick 28, pick 30 

1750
01:42:08,440 --> 01:42:11,920
in a couple drafts. 
And I've had to do smash that. 

1751
01:42:11,920 --> 01:42:14,920
Oh, I've had to do everything in
my power to keep my pants on. 

1752
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:19,320
It's been, it's been one of one 
of God's toughest tests for me. 

1753
01:42:21,320 --> 01:42:23,960
But yeah, man. 
Any of these other tight ends 

1754
01:42:23,960 --> 01:42:25,480
that you wanna talk? 
True. 

1755
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,080
I feel like we hit on a lot of 
them. 

1756
01:42:27,360 --> 01:42:31,240
I think we got most everyone 
here that we had notes on. 

1757
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:37,080
OK, OK. 
And I think you had a note him 

1758
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:40,040
about Hunter Henry being kind of
excited about how he, yeah, 

1759
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:44,640
might elevate with me. 
Yeah, just, I mean same same 

1760
01:42:44,640 --> 01:42:48,360
thesis that we talked about with
CJ Stroud, Drake May, you know, 

1761
01:42:48,480 --> 01:42:51,080
and that game, there's a lot of 
input volatility here. 

1762
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,360
It's the rising tide lifts all 
ships thing. 

1763
01:42:53,960 --> 01:42:58,560
If you're playing any kind of 
weekly format here, I think you 

1764
01:42:58,560 --> 01:43:02,520
just lean into this uncertainty 
And you know, you you take 

1765
01:43:02,520 --> 01:43:05,680
Hunter Henry while he's free. 
Like this might be the last week

1766
01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:07,240
of free Hunter Henry that you 
get. 

1767
01:43:07,280 --> 01:43:09,480
What if Hunter Henry is Drake 
May's favorite target? 

1768
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:13,480
What if Drake May is, what if 
Drake May is, you know, a better

1769
01:43:13,480 --> 01:43:18,800
quarterback than some of the 
other rookies that like it's, I 

1770
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:21,840
know this sounds a little 
ridiculous, but it's not 

1771
01:43:21,840 --> 01:43:24,880
unreasonable for Drake May to be
just as good as Jayden Daniels. 

1772
01:43:25,400 --> 01:43:27,960
Like there were teams that had 
Drake made over Jayden Daniels. 

1773
01:43:28,480 --> 01:43:32,240
You know, in fact a lot of the 
pre draft stuff that I've heard 

1774
01:43:32,240 --> 01:43:34,000
come out was. 
It's in his range. 

1775
01:43:34,160 --> 01:43:37,000
You're not saying like we should
expect this it's but it's in his

1776
01:43:37,000 --> 01:43:38,240
range. 
It's something that could 

1777
01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:40,840
happen. 
And so it's just like, while 

1778
01:43:40,840 --> 01:43:44,400
people aren't willing to price 
that on, on a player or on a 

1779
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:48,520
team, like this is the game. 
This is the game guy. 

1780
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,360
Like we're we're trying to find 
these outlier out. 

1781
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:55,280
And when people don't pay for 
the outlier outcome, you just 

1782
01:43:55,280 --> 01:43:57,720
take it like, right, you're 
gonna lose money. 

1783
01:43:57,720 --> 01:44:03,960
In a GPP, yeah, when you get 
upside dot cheap, that's how you

1784
01:44:03,960 --> 01:44:08,320
play, yeah. 
By the way, 31% Brock powers so 

1785
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:10,920
far for me. 
That's a lot of Brock. 

1786
01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,000
Bauers. 
No problem, no. 

1787
01:44:13,680 --> 01:44:17,360
So anybody here on the backup 
chart? 

1788
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,240
I mean, there's a guy on the 
starters chart that I didn't 

1789
01:44:21,240 --> 01:44:23,160
talk about that should be on the
back charts. 

1790
01:44:23,160 --> 01:44:27,040
And no offense seems giga dead. 
You got guys like Pharaoh Brown 

1791
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:30,240
and I can't even remember the 
other guy's name. 

1792
01:44:30,240 --> 01:44:34,840
But dude, the Seahawks using a 
three tight end rotation will 

1793
01:44:34,840 --> 01:44:38,240
just forever tilt me. 
It might just be the Noah fan. 

1794
01:44:38,240 --> 01:44:40,400
It's not that good. 
I was meant to say, like, 

1795
01:44:40,400 --> 01:44:41,960
doesn't that kind of suggest 
that he's not? 

1796
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:42,960
That good? 
Yeah, so. 

1797
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:48,440
He does have like a 72% route. 
He did have a 72% rent run last 

1798
01:44:48,440 --> 01:44:52,480
week on like what seemed like a 
high volume week for that team, 

1799
01:44:53,040 --> 01:44:57,120
but then an 8% targets per run. 
Yeah, I he's probably, he's 

1800
01:44:57,120 --> 01:44:58,880
probably not very good, which is
a bummer. 

1801
01:44:58,960 --> 01:45:00,080
Really like it. 
He's a bummer. 

1802
01:45:00,200 --> 01:45:02,880
He's a he's an athlete, but 
apparently not one that they 

1803
01:45:02,880 --> 01:45:07,600
want to give the ball to. 
Joan Johnson on the rise here 

1804
01:45:08,560 --> 01:45:13,080
you get wait, Juan Johnson, make
it onto the starters chart, 

1805
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:16,400
right? 
And he's right here. 

1806
01:45:17,040 --> 01:45:18,560
Wow. 
Sure enough. 

1807
01:45:19,280 --> 01:45:22,240
So yeah, made it onto the 
starters chart also with this 

1808
01:45:22,240 --> 01:45:25,680
little rinky dink A dot. 
Here you go. 

1809
01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,920
You want the most disgusting 
play of all time. 

1810
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:33,600
You don't play any Saints this 
week against Tampa Bay because 

1811
01:45:33,640 --> 01:45:38,520
you're going to have either J 
Kaner or Spencer Rattler except 

1812
01:45:38,520 --> 01:45:44,000
for Jawan Johnson, the emergency
outlet 2.9 A dot guy. 

1813
01:45:44,200 --> 01:45:49,520
You play Jawan Johnson here. 
Now that's a caveat with Tase of

1814
01:45:49,520 --> 01:45:53,480
Hill being tase of Hill inactive
still with his broken ribs, but 

1815
01:45:53,480 --> 01:45:56,360
Jawan getting more routes, 
looking like he's getting worked

1816
01:45:56,360 --> 01:46:01,840
in more fully. 
So he's a, you know. 68% right 

1817
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:06,600
run and 19% targets per run lot 
just just against the chiefs 

1818
01:46:07,080 --> 01:46:12,000
Yeah, for a dot and all of that 
stuff is is volatile and but 

1819
01:46:14,200 --> 01:46:15,840
good. 
Good to see him kind of emerge. 

1820
01:46:15,840 --> 01:46:18,360
And, and if you if you think 
that they're going to have to 

1821
01:46:18,360 --> 01:46:21,160
throw a lot to stay in the game,
then Juwan is probably going to 

1822
01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,800
play a lot. 
Yes, that is that is what I 

1823
01:46:23,800 --> 01:46:26,240
think. 
OK, sorry, back to the backups 

1824
01:46:26,240 --> 01:46:27,880
chart. 
There's only one other guy we 

1825
01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:31,280
need to talk about on the 
backups chart, and it is the 

1826
01:46:31,280 --> 01:46:35,320
sneakiest of sneaky plays. 
Probably a play to lose all of 

1827
01:46:35,320 --> 01:46:37,360
your money. 
You'll get no fantasy points 

1828
01:46:37,360 --> 01:46:41,320
from this player, but if you 
want to feel really smart, you 

1829
01:46:41,320 --> 01:46:45,680
can play Jetavion Sanders 
because Tommy Tremble got like I

1830
01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:48,080
watched Tommy Tremble's soul 
leave his body on the field. 

1831
01:46:48,080 --> 01:46:51,080
I really like in a in all 
seriousness, like hope Tommy 

1832
01:46:51,080 --> 01:46:52,920
Tremble is OK. 
It was a brutal hit that he 

1833
01:46:52,920 --> 01:46:55,080
took. 
I hope the guy who hit him is 

1834
01:46:55,080 --> 01:46:57,800
suspended for a game that's just
some fucked up stuff. 

1835
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:04,120
Like I'm all I, you know, as all
or most football fans do. 

1836
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:07,160
I certainly enjoy a, you know, 
nice big hit now and then, but I

1837
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:10,120
don't enjoy the hits where I'm 
watching a guy just get 

1838
01:47:10,120 --> 01:47:14,560
absolutely speared to the head. 
And I watched, you know, him get

1839
01:47:14,560 --> 01:47:18,480
Alzheimer's 10 years sooner. 
So didn't didn't love that. 

1840
01:47:18,480 --> 01:47:23,040
But Jetavion Sanders maybe gets 
the start this week. 

1841
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:25,720
Maybe a little interesting. 
We liked him a lot because he's 

1842
01:47:25,720 --> 01:47:30,480
a good athlete. 
He was 74% at Rhett run in week 

1843
01:47:30,480 --> 01:47:31,600
five. 
Yeah. 

1844
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:35,560
So like I'm assuming a lot of 
that was a Tommy Tremble injury?

1845
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:37,440
Correct. 
The Tommy Tremble injury came 

1846
01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:39,640
almost immediately. 
OK. 

1847
01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,960
So we already know, actually 
maybe not know, but we kind of 

1848
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:46,480
know what is what, that he has a
full role. 

1849
01:47:46,640 --> 01:47:51,160
Yeah, that that was that was my 
my point, that hey, the the door

1850
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:55,280
opened and Jatavion Sanders at 
least got to walk through the 

1851
01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:58,000
door. 
Now, the other stuff that is 

1852
01:47:58,000 --> 01:48:00,640
interesting here is they played 
a really good defense in the 

1853
01:48:00,640 --> 01:48:02,920
Bears so that the offense was 
kind of stymied. 

1854
01:48:02,920 --> 01:48:05,640
Like Deante Johnson really 
didn't get anything going. 

1855
01:48:05,640 --> 01:48:08,320
Chuba Hubbard is the only one 
who put up even a usable fantasy

1856
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:12,760
week for for the Panthers. 
So you get a much friendlier 

1857
01:48:12,760 --> 01:48:14,520
match up against the Falcons 
here. 

1858
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:19,640
I definitely think that this 
could be a spot where you know, 

1859
01:48:19,640 --> 01:48:21,280
you just get a little bit of a 
bounce back. 

1860
01:48:21,280 --> 01:48:24,520
And the other thing is the 
target competition outside of 

1861
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:30,640
Deante Johnson is like non 
existent because Xavier Legette 

1862
01:48:30,640 --> 01:48:35,280
is injured. 
Jonathan Mingo is like, I 

1863
01:48:35,280 --> 01:48:38,280
thought it was hard to find a 
receiver on the Panthers that 

1864
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:44,080
was gonna be worse than gosh, 
who's their their former LSU guy

1865
01:48:44,080 --> 01:48:45,480
whose name I'm forgetting right 
now. 

1866
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:49,760
Terrace Marshall thought it was 
gonna be hard for them to find a

1867
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:52,440
guy worse than Terrace Marshall.
Congratulations to the Panthers 

1868
01:48:52,440 --> 01:48:55,640
organization. 
Incredible front office found 

1869
01:48:55,640 --> 01:49:00,520
another guy even worse. 
And Mingo Mingo is terrible. 

1870
01:49:00,520 --> 01:49:03,800
So Jacavion Sanders might just 
be able to get there because 

1871
01:49:03,800 --> 01:49:07,320
there's no one to take the ball 
other than Deonte Johnson and 

1872
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:11,400
he's going to be entirely free. 
Probably not good in the dog 

1873
01:49:11,400 --> 01:49:16,360
bowl because like, they're the 
the like the minimum. 

1874
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:18,120
OK. 
So he's what you're saying is 

1875
01:49:18,120 --> 01:49:24,120
he's a desperation and waiver 
wire pickup where where like 

1876
01:49:24,280 --> 01:49:28,240
you, you lost a tight end or you
have somebody on a bye week? 

1877
01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:30,960
He'll probably I haven't looked 
at the DraftKings pricing yet. 

1878
01:49:30,960 --> 01:49:33,960
I bet he's 2500 though. 
That's more where I would play 

1879
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:38,120
him just because like the, you 
know, the last round cost of a 

1880
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:43,120
tight end on underdog is not the
equivalent of a 2500 salary. 

1881
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:46,360
It's more like getting a $4000 
player. 

1882
01:49:46,680 --> 01:49:52,360
And so I think you just wanna, 
if you're gonna, if you choose 

1883
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,640
to lose your hard earned 
American dollars playing 

1884
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:57,240
Jetavion Sanders this week, 
probably do it in the format 

1885
01:49:57,240 --> 01:49:59,720
where you get the largest 
benefit from it, which is where 

1886
01:49:59,720 --> 01:50:03,040
you'd save a ton of salary 
because he's not he's not going 

1887
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:04,640
to be owned any no one will 
play. 

1888
01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:08,040
The only people playing Jetavion
Sanders are the people stupid 

1889
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,640
enough to listen to me. 
So you know, if you're if you're

1890
01:50:11,640 --> 01:50:14,320
watching this right now, it's 
going to be you and like maybe 

1891
01:50:14,320 --> 01:50:16,240
one other person playing 
Jetavion Sanders. 

1892
01:50:16,240 --> 01:50:20,760
So anyway, that's that's all the
Jatavion Sanders talk for this 

1893
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:25,920
podcast. 
OK, I just I'm looking up his 

1894
01:50:27,640 --> 01:50:34,240
salary now, looks like 20 this 
week is 2600. 100 more than the 

1895
01:50:34,240 --> 01:50:37,280
stone men. 
I'll I'll tell you what, I'll 

1896
01:50:37,280 --> 01:50:40,680
probably have at least one 
Jatavion Sanders team on 

1897
01:50:40,680 --> 01:50:45,600
DraftKings. 
Make Sam. 

1898
01:50:46,960 --> 01:50:48,320
It makes sense. 
You don't have. 

1899
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:50,240
It makes sense. 
It doesn't make any sense. 

1900
01:50:51,440 --> 01:50:56,320
Well, we, we just pitched them. 
I, I, I if, if we just gave us 

1901
01:50:56,320 --> 01:50:58,880
some speech for him, I'd hope 
that you're, you're also playing

1902
01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:05,960
them. 
My my my last stack chasing Co 

1903
01:51:05,960 --> 01:51:09,360
host also had an issue about 
touting tight ends that he 

1904
01:51:09,360 --> 01:51:13,640
didn't play. 
Oh, that's a good call. 

1905
01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:19,880
Good shout. 
So receiver opportunity versus 

1906
01:51:19,960 --> 01:51:25,520
fantasy points, and this is the 
starters chart. 

1907
01:51:26,560 --> 01:51:35,000
Do you want to kick us off? 
Oh, I can't hear you. 

1908
01:51:35,680 --> 01:51:38,880
It's something wrong? 
Nope, sorry, I had my mic off 

1909
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:39,760
there. 
Can you hear me now? 

1910
01:51:39,960 --> 01:51:43,600
Yeah, yeah, yeah, can hear. 
You Jamar Chase is being sneaky 

1911
01:51:43,680 --> 01:51:47,600
and hiding up in the upper left 
hand behind the route share 

1912
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:51,400
legend. 
Now this this chart's 

1913
01:51:51,400 --> 01:51:56,400
interesting just because Malik 
Neighbors is skewing it so hard 

1914
01:51:56,400 --> 01:52:00,600
that the minimum X axis value is
40% weighted targets per route 

1915
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:05,360
run. 
So it looks Jamar Chase's 

1916
01:52:05,360 --> 01:52:08,440
weighted targets per route run 
kind of like artificially looks 

1917
01:52:08,440 --> 01:52:11,480
lower than it even is. 
Now granted, T Higgins got a lot

1918
01:52:11,480 --> 01:52:14,480
of targets as well. 
So that's that's also part of 

1919
01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:18,240
it. 
But yeah, I mean, I I would 

1920
01:52:18,240 --> 01:52:23,840
fully expect Jamar Chase to 
finish moving on over up into 

1921
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:28,040
the upper right hand quadrant to
live with wide receivers of his.

1922
01:52:28,560 --> 01:52:33,720
Chase had 29% targets per at 
run, 6068% weighted targets per 

1923
01:52:33,720 --> 01:52:38,120
at run in Week 5. 
I think we can pretty handily 

1924
01:52:38,120 --> 01:52:42,240
ascribe the the low start to the
year because of the holdout. 

1925
01:52:42,520 --> 01:52:47,200
Yep, and and and normal Jamar 
Chase underlying usage trends. 

1926
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:50,720
Projection forward. 
Yeah, agree. 

1927
01:52:52,600 --> 01:52:56,560
OK. 
This is if you want the the flag

1928
01:52:56,560 --> 01:53:01,120
plant of all flag plants here. 
The guy who is going to 

1929
01:53:01,120 --> 01:53:06,040
absolutely erupt this week is in
a similar spot on the chart that

1930
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,960
Cortland Sutton was last week. 
When I said maybe Cortland 

1931
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:11,480
Sutton's like an OK play. 
He's getting a lot of weighted 

1932
01:53:11,480 --> 01:53:14,080
targets per route run. 
You know he's he's in a good 

1933
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:17,360
spot. 
Terry Mclaurin against the 

1934
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:23,120
Ravens pass funnel defense with 
Jaden Daniels, who it's looking 

1935
01:53:23,120 --> 01:53:25,480
more and more with with each 
passing game. 

1936
01:53:25,480 --> 01:53:30,000
It's looking like Cliff 
Kingsbury is rotating the 

1937
01:53:30,120 --> 01:53:35,120
horizontal raid 90° and allowing
them to do the vertical raid and

1938
01:53:35,120 --> 01:53:37,760
just huck it deep to Terry 
McLaren. 

1939
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:42,160
I mean, listen, if you get just 
two. 

1940
01:53:42,360 --> 01:53:45,080
Terry McLaren had 176 area 
yards. 

1941
01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:46,560
That's what I'm that's what I'm 
saying. 

1942
01:53:46,560 --> 01:53:50,400
You get two of those deep bombs 
to connect to Terry and and he 

1943
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,920
keeps his feet through him 
because this last week he caught

1944
01:53:52,920 --> 01:53:55,200
one and fell down short of the 
short of the end zone. 

1945
01:53:55,200 --> 01:54:02,320
Like, I mean, I'm not, I don't 
mean to sound hyperbolic here, 

1946
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:06,840
but a Terry Mclaurin 40 burger 
is squarely in the range. 

1947
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:09,880
That's like, I think that's like
a 90. 

1948
01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:13,320
It's not even 99th percentile. 
That's like 98th percentile. 

1949
01:54:13,480 --> 01:54:18,320
OK, but I I think this is an 
insane spot for Terry Mclaurin. 

1950
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:23,000
He's going way too late. 
I'm I'm ruining my ability to 

1951
01:54:23,000 --> 01:54:24,640
get Terry Mclaurin right now in 
dog bowl. 

1952
01:54:24,640 --> 01:54:27,000
I only have 23% of them right 
now. 

1953
01:54:27,520 --> 01:54:33,120
I would, I hope that before 
rankings come out or projections

1954
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:36,360
come out that I'm able to get to
like 50% Terry Mclaurin cuz 

1955
01:54:36,360 --> 01:54:38,680
he'll be at the end of the him 
and Jaden Daniels would be the 

1956
01:54:38,680 --> 01:54:43,280
1-2 turn in dog bowls right now.
So I got, I managed to get a 

1957
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:48,680
Terry Mclaurin in the third. 
I think I, yeah, it's Terry 

1958
01:54:48,680 --> 01:54:52,760
Mclaurin third round, Jaden 
Daniels second round team, which

1959
01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:57,120
I am just over the moon about. 
I, I think if you can get a 

1960
01:54:57,120 --> 01:54:59,920
couple of those, you're going to
have a really good shot at 

1961
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:04,320
stealing a seat this week. 
So Terry Mclaurin, that's my, 

1962
01:55:04,520 --> 01:55:09,040
that's my spot this week. 
The that makes sense. 

1963
01:55:09,720 --> 01:55:13,680
So we talked about this briefly 
on back, way back on the 

1964
01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:16,040
quarterbacks chart. 
We talked about Drake London and

1965
01:55:16,040 --> 01:55:19,320
Darnell Mooney, you know, with 
respect to Kirk Cousins in this 

1966
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:21,000
good matchup against the 
Panthers. 

1967
01:55:22,200 --> 01:55:24,800
Drake Lennon and Darnell Mooney 
are spider man meeting each 

1968
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:28,080
other on this chart here. 
Basically identical weighted 

1969
01:55:28,080 --> 01:55:30,800
targets per route run. 
Just a couple fantasy points 

1970
01:55:30,800 --> 01:55:33,480
difference. 
You know, which over the the 

1971
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:36,960
small sample that we have pretty
attributable to just a little 

1972
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:40,680
little bit of variance. 
I do think that, you know, 

1973
01:55:40,680 --> 01:55:44,920
straight up, you know, cost 
agnostic, I'd take Drake London 

1974
01:55:44,920 --> 01:55:48,440
over Darnell Mooney. 
However, in pretty much every 

1975
01:55:48,440 --> 01:55:51,920
fantasy format that we're 
playing, cost definitely matters

1976
01:55:52,360 --> 01:55:54,880
and you're getting Darnell 
Mooney a lot cheaper than Drake 

1977
01:55:54,880 --> 01:55:58,040
London. 
So I'm I'm pretty into Darnell 

1978
01:55:58,040 --> 01:56:02,760
Mooney this week. 
Gosh, things you never thought 

1979
01:56:02,760 --> 01:56:05,720
that you would say. 
Yeah, that that that's an odd 

1980
01:56:05,720 --> 01:56:10,720
one where he just had like a 
really, really like mediocre to 

1981
01:56:10,720 --> 01:56:15,400
like non like viable career and 
now just an utter revival. 

1982
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:18,440
He did. 
He had the one really good 

1983
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:20,040
season, right? 
But. 

1984
01:56:20,280 --> 01:56:23,360
He had he had a solid like 
rookie year where he got like 

1985
01:56:23,680 --> 01:56:26,920
our sophomore year where he just
about got to 1000 yards. 

1986
01:56:27,120 --> 01:56:31,200
I thought he was over. 1000 I 
thought, I thought it was like 

1987
01:56:31,520 --> 01:56:33,520
1000 and like 40 or something 
like that. 

1988
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:38,360
Yeah, the the the semantics 
between like a thousand 1040 

1989
01:56:38,360 --> 01:56:40,400
doesn't matter. 
Darnell Mooney, like I think we 

1990
01:56:40,400 --> 01:56:42,040
had all pretty much left for 
dead. 

1991
01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:48,200
But anyway, he he seems to be 
experiencing a late, late career

1992
01:56:48,200 --> 01:56:49,880
resurgence here with Kirk 
Cousins. 

1993
01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:54,960
And it's to me, it's just kind 
of the thing where there's too 

1994
01:56:54,960 --> 01:56:57,480
much name value still being 
ascribed to Drake London, not 

1995
01:56:57,480 --> 01:56:59,560
the Drake London isn't good. 
I think he's good. 

1996
01:56:59,960 --> 01:57:05,360
I just think that kind of if we 
go back in time and kind of look

1997
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:11,120
at this as the like when Kirk 
Cousins had Adam Thielen and 

1998
01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:15,280
Justin Jefferson both doing 
like, I'm, I'm talking way back 

1999
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,560
when, when Adam Thielen was, was
really good. 

2000
01:57:17,600 --> 01:57:20,560
The sorry, it's more more like 
Adam Thielen's Seth Diggs when 

2001
01:57:20,560 --> 01:57:24,000
it was like pretty concentrated 
offense, right? 

2002
01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:27,360
Like you can get both these guys
now this is a little less 

2003
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:29,800
concentrated, but I mean, it's, 
it's constant than that. 

2004
01:57:29,800 --> 01:57:32,240
But that was like one of the all
time concentrated offenses. 

2005
01:57:32,920 --> 01:57:35,920
Just think of think of Darnell 
Mooney and they're totally 

2006
01:57:35,920 --> 01:57:38,400
different player archetypes. 
It's it's purely just like the 

2007
01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:43,280
role and the and like the cost 
relative to what you're getting 

2008
01:57:43,280 --> 01:57:45,840
for the targets. 
Like Darnell Mooney is just like

2009
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:48,520
that second piece in the Kirk 
Cousins offense that is going 

2010
01:57:48,520 --> 01:57:51,360
too cheaply. 
People will get there 

2011
01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:52,760
eventually. 
Like it's not. 

2012
01:57:53,160 --> 01:57:54,840
I mean, it might already be too 
late. 

2013
01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:57,400
Like people might already be on 
to the Darnell Mooney stuff. 

2014
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:00,960
And but from what I'm seeing in 
dog bowl prices, they're not. 

2015
01:58:02,240 --> 01:58:05,720
And so it's probably one of your
last opportunities to take 

2016
01:58:05,720 --> 01:58:10,120
advantage of the Darnell Mooney 
to Drake London arbitrage 

2017
01:58:10,120 --> 01:58:13,400
opportunity. 
Yeah. 

2018
01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:20,040
And yeah, I think I think that's
that's fair, but not non 

2019
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:23,080
derogatory. 
It's it's pretty gross. 

2020
01:58:24,240 --> 01:58:28,600
It I have a tough time seeing 
like how Darnell Mooney, like 

2021
01:58:28,600 --> 01:58:31,400
it's hard for me to actually 
envision him continuing to play 

2022
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:35,520
well enough to like earn these 
targets over over a full year. 

2023
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:39,000
But like that's what he's doing.
That's what he's doing. 

2024
01:58:39,320 --> 01:58:43,760
And the offenses that he's been 
playing on it have been so rough

2025
01:58:44,240 --> 01:58:48,480
that like, it, it's not that. 
It's also not that difficult to 

2026
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:52,120
tell yourself a story of like 
him just being misused his 

2027
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:56,120
entire career. 
And, and, and like we've seen 

2028
01:58:56,120 --> 01:59:00,520
we've we have seen veterans have
revival career revivals with 

2029
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:04,400
good quarterbacks. 
So like, that's probably what's 

2030
01:59:04,400 --> 01:59:06,880
happening. 
And by the end of the year it 

2031
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:08,800
it'll, it'll just be like 
accepted. 

2032
01:59:09,560 --> 01:59:13,880
Yeah. 
OK, this was one that I was 

2033
01:59:13,880 --> 01:59:17,520
interested in your thoughts on. 
So Jameson Williams and Alman 

2034
01:59:17,520 --> 01:59:20,720
Raw, St. 
Brown, you know, pretty close on

2035
01:59:20,720 --> 01:59:26,160
the chart for now. 
A lot of this is just Alman raw 

2036
01:59:26,160 --> 01:59:29,760
is going to dominate the raw 
targets more than Jameson. 

2037
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:32,760
At least what we've seen so far 
this season is he's gonna get 

2038
01:59:32,880 --> 01:59:36,800
way more raw targets. 
But Jameson is now, he's not 

2039
01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:39,640
just getting deep stuff. 
Jameson's operating in in all 

2040
01:59:39,640 --> 01:59:42,360
quadrants, but he is also 
getting stuff that much deeper 

2041
01:59:42,640 --> 01:59:45,240
than Amanra. 
So it's kind of buoying his his 

2042
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:47,640
weighted targets per route run a
little higher just because he's 

2043
01:59:47,640 --> 01:59:52,240
getting that deeper stuff. 
But I really my question for you

2044
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:56,000
is, is the emergence of Jameson 
Williams as like a legitimate 

2045
01:59:56,000 --> 02:00:00,280
viable weapon for the Lions now 
eating into these other Lions 

2046
02:00:00,280 --> 02:00:03,920
pass catchers like Amanra, like 
Laporta? 

2047
02:00:04,240 --> 02:00:09,080
And is that causing them to be a
little bit muted versions of 

2048
02:00:09,080 --> 02:00:11,080
what we've seen from them last 
year? 

2049
02:00:11,680 --> 02:00:15,840
I think, I think you've kind of 
got two things going on where it

2050
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:19,520
does seem like they're running 
the ball more and then so the 

2051
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:23,160
receiving volume is down and 
then he's taking a bigger chunk 

2052
02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:25,960
of it than before. 
So you're kind of getting a 

2053
02:00:25,960 --> 02:00:34,640
double double blast there, which
it does kind of suck that all 

2054
02:00:34,640 --> 02:00:37,560
those kind of expensive pieces 
are underwhelming. 

2055
02:00:38,160 --> 02:00:41,760
They're probably still like, 
they're probably all still like 

2056
02:00:41,760 --> 02:00:47,080
great GPP plays. 
Like it's kind of like similar 

2057
02:00:47,080 --> 02:00:52,400
to how the San Francisco team 
has been where like they're they

2058
02:00:52,400 --> 02:00:54,320
run too much, they cannibalize 
each other. 

2059
02:00:54,760 --> 02:00:58,760
But then there's going to be 
games where one of those guys is

2060
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:00,280
just somebody you absolutely 
need. 

2061
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:04,840
Yeah, definitely. 
To week consistency isn't what 

2062
02:01:04,840 --> 02:01:07,640
it was before. 
Something I, I think I might 

2063
02:01:07,640 --> 02:01:11,920
want to dig in. 
I've I've done this on pass BBM 

2064
02:01:12,040 --> 02:01:16,360
data, but I think I have some 
ideas for how to kind of dive in

2065
02:01:16,520 --> 02:01:20,880
to this problem in a deeper way.
But doing kind of like a 

2066
02:01:20,880 --> 02:01:25,200
sensitivity analysis on the 
price of team stacks for some of

2067
02:01:25,200 --> 02:01:28,600
these pretty expensive team 
stacks, like what you actually 

2068
02:01:28,600 --> 02:01:31,640
need from the pieces. 
Like, for example, if you team 

2069
02:01:31,640 --> 02:01:34,800
stacked the Lions this year in 
best ball, took Almond raw in 

2070
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:37,240
the first round, took a Porta in
the fourth round. 

2071
02:01:37,360 --> 02:01:40,320
Or I mean, you can't, you can't 
take Gibbs and almond raw, you 

2072
02:01:40,320 --> 02:01:43,240
know, except for that brief 
stretch of time where Gibbs was 

2073
02:01:43,240 --> 02:01:48,240
falling with a hamstring injury.
And then you get, you know, 

2074
02:01:48,320 --> 02:01:53,160
Jamieson in the seventh round. 
It's like, is that going to be 

2075
02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:57,360
good for best ball? 
I mean, right now it's looking 

2076
02:01:57,360 --> 02:01:59,920
like David Montgomery cost 
adjusted David Montgomery and 

2077
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:03,040
Jameis Williams were the way to 
play this in basketball drafts. 

2078
02:02:03,040 --> 02:02:07,800
But there's a long season and 
I'm I'm pretty optimistic in the

2079
02:02:07,800 --> 02:02:11,320
Gibbs thesis playing out where 
at the start of the season I was

2080
02:02:11,320 --> 02:02:14,040
like a little hesitant to 
believe it. 

2081
02:02:14,040 --> 02:02:17,160
I I just thought that it was a 
little too wish Cassidy that 

2082
02:02:17,160 --> 02:02:19,960
like just going to usurp David 
Montgomery. 

2083
02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:24,040
He's going to take so much of it
and dominate and and his passing

2084
02:02:24,040 --> 02:02:27,240
role has been less. 
I think that's also just a side 

2085
02:02:27,240 --> 02:02:30,920
effect of Jameson just eating 
again, eating into that passing 

2086
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:34,600
volume. 
But man, Gibbs just looks so 

2087
02:02:34,600 --> 02:02:38,680
good and they're willing to use 
him in situations that I think 

2088
02:02:38,680 --> 02:02:41,120
prior to the season starting, 
people would have ascribed to 

2089
02:02:41,120 --> 02:02:46,160
like purely David Montgomery 
situations like, you know, goal,

2090
02:02:46,200 --> 02:02:49,440
goal to go, you know, short, 
short yardage, goal line stuff 

2091
02:02:49,840 --> 02:02:51,560
like they're happy with Gibbs 
there. 

2092
02:02:51,560 --> 02:02:55,480
So I think the path for Gibbs 
getting there is still still 

2093
02:02:55,480 --> 02:02:57,720
alive. 
But you know, with, with a 

2094
02:02:57,720 --> 02:03:02,680
Monroe and Jameson, yeah, it's 
it's probably a lot like the 

2095
02:03:02,680 --> 02:03:04,600
Niners, like you said. 
I think that's a really good 

2096
02:03:04,600 --> 02:03:09,400
comparison. 
I I know you, you had a note 

2097
02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:12,320
here about like a Brandon Ayuk 
revival. 

2098
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:14,880
Yeah. 
That that that was how I wanted 

2099
02:03:14,880 --> 02:03:17,720
to segue the the Niners and and 
Lions here. 

2100
02:03:18,160 --> 02:03:22,360
But I mean, man, I, I played a 
bunch of Iuke last week. 

2101
02:03:22,680 --> 02:03:27,040
I thought it was a good spot. 
It's just, it's something where 

2102
02:03:27,160 --> 02:03:31,040
I just have to remind myself 
like I, I wish I remember this 

2103
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:33,920
prior to to watching this week 
play out. 

2104
02:03:34,440 --> 02:03:40,000
But when a major projection 
provider is like so, so heavily 

2105
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:44,840
over on one player in one of 
these like volatile good 

2106
02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:49,360
offenses relative to the other 
pieces like ETR was so much 

2107
02:03:49,360 --> 02:03:52,640
higher on Debo Samuel than the 
rest of the industry and so much

2108
02:03:52,640 --> 02:03:56,000
higher on Debo Samuel than 
Brandon Iuke that even though 

2109
02:03:56,000 --> 02:03:58,760
their projection represents a 
range of outcomes, what we're 

2110
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:01,160
telling you is the median 
projection and here's the 

2111
02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:04,240
ceiling. 
So they're not necessarily wrong

2112
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:09,000
by projecting Debo that much 
higher, but the way that people 

2113
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:12,560
are consuming the data that 
they're providing is wrong. 

2114
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:16,880
People are seeing that and 
saying, Oh my God, I got to play

2115
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:18,880
Debo. 
Samuel's the best projected 

2116
02:04:18,880 --> 02:04:22,040
player on the slate. 
And so then you get this weird 

2117
02:04:22,040 --> 02:04:26,760
overreaction where, you know, if
you sat down and had a 

2118
02:04:26,760 --> 02:04:29,200
conversation with the ETR 
projection team, they'd probably

2119
02:04:29,200 --> 02:04:33,080
tell you, yeah, all of these 
guys could go absolutely nuke 

2120
02:04:33,080 --> 02:04:35,000
this week. 
We just think Debo has the 

2121
02:04:35,000 --> 02:04:38,600
highest probability of doing it.
But they fall victim to this, 

2122
02:04:38,600 --> 02:04:41,400
like, you know, snake eating its
own tail thing where they told 

2123
02:04:41,400 --> 02:04:44,920
everyone Debo's the best bet, 
therefore everyone plays Debo 

2124
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:47,920
and jacks the ownership way up 
and it makes the other plays 

2125
02:04:47,920 --> 02:04:50,200
better. 
So it's just to me, I just want 

2126
02:04:50,200 --> 02:04:54,480
to remind myself that when you 
get a spot like that where the 

2127
02:04:54,480 --> 02:04:59,400
market is going to be way too 
overconfident in how a really 

2128
02:04:59,400 --> 02:05:01,920
good offense is going to get 
there, when there's a lot of 

2129
02:05:02,520 --> 02:05:07,080
very similar weapons, like we're
not talking like Garrett Wilson 

2130
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:09,760
versus Mike Williams was the 
projection gap. 

2131
02:05:09,760 --> 02:05:12,760
You know where one of these is 
like clearly a different tier of

2132
02:05:12,760 --> 02:05:15,720
player is Debo Samuel and 
Brandon Iuke. 

2133
02:05:15,720 --> 02:05:17,720
Where and George Kittle were all
of these. 

2134
02:05:17,840 --> 02:05:22,920
One A1B. 1C yeah, yeah. 
So I, I just, this is me saying 

2135
02:05:22,920 --> 02:05:26,480
it out loud to remind myself and
also to tell the listeners. 

2136
02:05:26,480 --> 02:05:30,880
Like when you see a spot like 
this where you, you get just 

2137
02:05:31,080 --> 02:05:34,800
such a huge projection on one 
player relative to players of a 

2138
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:39,520
similar tier on their offense. 
Like, like if you got a Mike 

2139
02:05:39,520 --> 02:05:44,400
Evans is projected for 20 and 
Chris Godwin is projected for 14

2140
02:05:44,760 --> 02:05:48,120
type of situation, you know, 
that's a spot where you just 

2141
02:05:48,120 --> 02:05:53,160
say, yeah, that the projection 
could even be right, but the 

2142
02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:56,720
field's going to overreact to 
that and not synthesize that 

2143
02:05:56,720 --> 02:05:59,920
data correctly. 
And so I'm I'm just going to 

2144
02:05:59,920 --> 02:06:04,080
lead into people not 
understanding how probabilistic 

2145
02:06:04,080 --> 02:06:08,840
range of outcomes work. 
And and also not, not not 

2146
02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:13,000
realizing that other people are 
also going to to, to play that 

2147
02:06:13,000 --> 02:06:14,880
projection. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2148
02:06:15,200 --> 02:06:19,800
And it's such a simple thing. 
So like, I mean the, the one 

2149
02:06:19,800 --> 02:06:24,480
that I really want to attack 
right now and sorry, I'm, I'm 

2150
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:26,720
just shooting from the hip here.
I didn't have this one in the 

2151
02:06:26,720 --> 02:06:30,720
show notes, but I feel like 
everyone is so gung ho about DJ 

2152
02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:32,760
Moore now. 
DJ Moore just had a really big 

2153
02:06:32,760 --> 02:06:34,640
week. 
Caleb Williams is looking good. 

2154
02:06:34,640 --> 02:06:39,120
Like I feel like everywhere I, I
look, I see all these people 

2155
02:06:39,120 --> 02:06:42,120
talking about how DJ Moore is 
the alpha in the offense. 

2156
02:06:42,120 --> 02:06:45,800
He's about to feast with Caleb 
Williams and it's like a man. 

2157
02:06:46,240 --> 02:06:50,040
I kind of think that Roma Dunze 
and Keenan Allen both could 

2158
02:06:50,040 --> 02:06:51,720
probably get there in any given 
week. 

2159
02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:54,840
Like maybe DJ Moore is the 
projection favorite, but I don't

2160
02:06:54,840 --> 02:06:57,040
think it's quite as clear cut as
people are think. 

2161
02:06:57,240 --> 02:07:01,720
Like DJ Moore and Keenan Keenan 
Allen and Roma Dunze through the

2162
02:07:01,720 --> 02:07:06,880
1st 4 weeks have like identical 
targets in the games where they 

2163
02:07:06,880 --> 02:07:09,520
both played. 
So it's like I kind of think 

2164
02:07:09,520 --> 02:07:12,680
that both of these guys, they're
not identical in the same games,

2165
02:07:12,680 --> 02:07:15,800
but they each had the same 
number of targets in different 

2166
02:07:15,800 --> 02:07:19,080
games. 
So I just kind of think they're 

2167
02:07:19,080 --> 02:07:21,400
both live to put up the same 
type of game. 

2168
02:07:21,400 --> 02:07:24,240
We just saw from DJ Moore and 
people are just overconfident 

2169
02:07:24,240 --> 02:07:26,600
because DJ Moore just got had a 
really big game. 

2170
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:30,880
So that's another one where I'm 
yeah, want to fade to 

2171
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:33,720
overconfidence there. 
All right, we'll, we'll speed up

2172
02:07:33,720 --> 02:07:36,120
here. 
I had a note. 

2173
02:07:36,320 --> 02:07:40,600
This is a really important one, 
but if you look in the bottom 

2174
02:07:40,600 --> 02:07:45,720
left hand corner, you know right
around 40% weighted targets per 

2175
02:07:45,720 --> 02:07:48,400
route run little under 10 
fantasy points per game. 

2176
02:07:48,680 --> 02:07:51,960
I'm just wondering when is Jerry
Judy supposed to bury me? 

2177
02:07:53,560 --> 02:07:55,120
Yeah, he's that. 
He's not, is he? 

2178
02:07:55,640 --> 02:07:58,960
No. 
He he buries you when when Flame

2179
02:07:59,000 --> 02:08:05,680
Flamez becomes a starter. 
Yeah, if we get some Jameis, 

2180
02:08:05,680 --> 02:08:08,920
maybe Jerry Judy can bury me. 
But man. 

2181
02:08:09,400 --> 02:08:12,960
I haven't watched the Browns 
play but I've seen some comments

2182
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:17,920
that what's his name? 
Deshaun Watson is having the 

2183
02:08:17,920 --> 02:08:22,320
worst stretch of QB games. 
Among the worst stretch of QB 

2184
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:25,160
games in in in the modern kind 
of like. 

2185
02:08:25,440 --> 02:08:27,240
Some of the passes are just 
weird. 

2186
02:08:27,280 --> 02:08:29,840
Like there's somewhere it looks 
like, oh, that's like a, that's 

2187
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:32,200
like a normal miss. 
That's like a miss that a normal

2188
02:08:32,200 --> 02:08:34,200
quarterback would have. 
But every once in a while 

2189
02:08:34,200 --> 02:08:37,080
there's one where it's like, 
what the fuck just happened? 

2190
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:43,240
It doesn't like like I don't see
any other quarterbacks missing 

2191
02:08:43,240 --> 02:08:44,840
that same way, if that makes 
sense. 

2192
02:08:44,840 --> 02:08:49,600
Like I'm watching, we're like, 
I, if you want my, my theory on 

2193
02:08:49,600 --> 02:08:51,960
what's happening, like 
biomechanically, his body did 

2194
02:08:51,960 --> 02:08:53,680
not do what he expected it to do
there. 

2195
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:56,520
Like the ball comes out, like he
thought his arm could continue 

2196
02:08:56,520 --> 02:08:58,920
moving in it, like his shoulder 
got caught or something. 

2197
02:08:58,920 --> 02:09:01,840
It's very right. 
His body's not doing what he 

2198
02:09:01,840 --> 02:09:04,080
thinks it's going to happen. 
So seems bad. 

2199
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:06,880
All right, we'll, we'll speed up
here. 

2200
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:08,320
Let's let's move to the next 
chart. 

2201
02:09:08,320 --> 02:09:11,160
Unless you had anyone else on 
this to talk about. 

2202
02:09:13,280 --> 02:09:15,920
OK, Brian Thomas, breakout 
season. 

2203
02:09:16,040 --> 02:09:19,640
It's here. 
Despite poor quarterback play 

2204
02:09:19,640 --> 02:09:23,200
from Trevor Lawrence, Brian 
Thomas is inevitable. 

2205
02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:28,560
It turns out the guy who scored 
a million touchdowns even though

2206
02:09:28,560 --> 02:09:31,720
he was running opposite Malik 
Neighbors target domination. 

2207
02:09:31,720 --> 02:09:34,000
King happens to be very good at 
football. 

2208
02:09:35,000 --> 02:09:38,800
Yep. 
Yeah, I don't even have anything

2209
02:09:38,800 --> 02:09:39,240
else. 
Sorry. 

2210
02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:41,720
Sorry, I'm pretty tired. 
And you're good. 

2211
02:09:41,800 --> 02:09:45,400
We're. 
He's he's playing well and then 

2212
02:09:45,400 --> 02:09:48,360
hopefully his route chair can 
kind of creep up. 

2213
02:09:48,880 --> 02:09:53,400
I don't see how it does it. 
He's very Gabe Davis is like 

2214
02:09:53,920 --> 02:09:58,240
such a caricature next to Blake.
Gabe Davis next to Brian Thomas 

2215
02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:00,840
looks like they literally signed
Gabe Davis to make the Brian 

2216
02:10:00,840 --> 02:10:02,320
Thomas pick look that much 
better. 

2217
02:10:04,600 --> 02:10:08,600
Sorry, Gabe. 
Yeah, he's still hanging around.

2218
02:10:08,600 --> 02:10:11,560
He's been firmly in that around 
80% range. 

2219
02:10:11,680 --> 02:10:14,160
But like they, they have to find
a way to increase that. 

2220
02:10:14,360 --> 02:10:17,480
You know he by the end of the 
season, he will absolutely be 

2221
02:10:17,480 --> 02:10:23,400
the alpha on the team. 
OK, Josh Downs, man, this is a 

2222
02:10:23,400 --> 02:10:25,280
really interesting one with 
Flacco. 

2223
02:10:25,280 --> 02:10:28,040
Flacco got out there and was 
just slinging it. 

2224
02:10:28,160 --> 02:10:31,000
Josh Downs absolutely looked 
like his favorite target. 

2225
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:35,120
Looked like the best receiver on
the team by my eye. 

2226
02:10:35,680 --> 02:10:39,920
I was watching a lot of this 
game because I had a ton of 

2227
02:10:40,640 --> 02:10:45,960
Colts and Jag stacks played a 
lot of Joe Flacco in in the dog 

2228
02:10:45,960 --> 02:10:50,280
bowl and DFS would have would 
have been really good if we 

2229
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:53,040
didn't have the nuclear Bureau 
week because Joe Flacco was was 

2230
02:10:53,040 --> 02:10:56,920
kind of crazy. 
But anyway, Josh Downs, I I 

2231
02:10:56,920 --> 02:11:00,400
think is asserting his dominance
as the wide receiver one on the 

2232
02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:02,280
team. 
Like he he will be the one that 

2233
02:11:02,280 --> 02:11:05,840
leads the team and targets. 
But there's one small wrinkle to

2234
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:10,200
that analysis and that is when 
Anthony Richardson comes back. 

2235
02:11:11,120 --> 02:11:16,000
I don't know how good that is 
for Josh Downs game because it's

2236
02:11:16,000 --> 02:11:18,960
just gonna the amount of pass 
volume is gonna shrink it. 

2237
02:11:18,960 --> 02:11:24,920
It transforms into this like 
deep ball, like low completion 

2238
02:11:24,920 --> 02:11:28,680
percentage type stuff. 
And I don't know what, what are 

2239
02:11:28,680 --> 02:11:30,800
your thoughts on Josh Downs here
going forward? 

2240
02:11:31,960 --> 02:11:38,480
So Josh Downs, I guess what one 
thing that that's kind of 

2241
02:11:38,480 --> 02:11:43,720
standing out to me is so he's in
this 70% route share and then 

2242
02:11:43,720 --> 02:11:47,640
you look what where his routes 
are and it's almost all from the

2243
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:50,520
slot. 
So it does seem like they seem 

2244
02:11:50,520 --> 02:11:53,000
as a kind of exclusively a slot 
receiver. 

2245
02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:57,560
But then when he plays, he's 
getting like, if I just do a 

2246
02:11:57,560 --> 02:12:00,640
pure average here, he's getting 
like 35% targets per run. 

2247
02:12:01,600 --> 02:12:07,000
So absolutely overcoming the, 
the lack of of route share 

2248
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:12,000
there. 
And and then so last week he got

2249
02:12:12,000 --> 02:12:18,160
12 targets, 6.8 yards a dot. 
Some of that probably was and 

2250
02:12:18,160 --> 02:12:20,800
Joe Flacco, but I, I think 
you're right. 

2251
02:12:21,200 --> 02:12:25,040
It's it's not like he's getting 
these crazy, crazy deep balls 

2252
02:12:25,880 --> 02:12:31,400
and you kind of that solid 
player kind of doesn't really 

2253
02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:36,640
work when Anthony Richardson is 
is a quarterback or Anthony 

2254
02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:38,680
Richardson needs to play a whole
lot better. 

2255
02:12:39,480 --> 02:12:41,640
Yeah, that's, that's my 
assessment too. 

2256
02:12:42,840 --> 02:12:45,080
Exciting because I really like 
Josh Downs. 

2257
02:12:45,080 --> 02:12:47,240
He's a really good player. 
Drafted a bunch of them. 

2258
02:12:47,560 --> 02:12:50,120
Would love to play him in, in 
weekly formats. 

2259
02:12:50,800 --> 02:12:53,360
I just don't think that I will 
with Anthony Richardson. 

2260
02:12:53,360 --> 02:12:56,120
I, I think, you know, certainly 
off of a good week, his price 

2261
02:12:56,120 --> 02:12:58,280
will be too high. 
His ownership will probably be, 

2262
02:12:58,720 --> 02:13:01,840
I would assume that his 
ownership doesn't, is not high 

2263
02:13:01,840 --> 02:13:05,040
this week 'cause I think it's 
not a state secret that his game

2264
02:13:05,040 --> 02:13:07,360
probably doesn't mesh the best 
with Anthony Richardson. 

2265
02:13:07,360 --> 02:13:14,600
But yeah, OK, so I've I've got 
so look where Deonte Johnson is 

2266
02:13:14,600 --> 02:13:16,800
on this chart. 
Like pretty incredible 70% 

2267
02:13:16,800 --> 02:13:20,800
weighted targets per route run 
averaging strong, you know, 12 

2268
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:24,840
1/2 ish fantasy points per game.
Pretty pretty solid roll here, 

2269
02:13:24,920 --> 02:13:26,360
right? 
Yeah. 

2270
02:13:27,040 --> 02:13:31,360
Right below him is Lad Mcconkey,
rookie wide receiver for the 

2271
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:35,680
Chargers, like very quietly 
becoming the wide receiver one 

2272
02:13:35,680 --> 02:13:38,720
on the team. 
Now the problem with Lad 

2273
02:13:38,720 --> 02:13:42,400
Mcconkey like and making a one 
to one like, hey, he and Deontay

2274
02:13:42,400 --> 02:13:45,360
Johnson are right next to each 
other on the chart comparison. 

2275
02:13:45,880 --> 02:13:49,920
You can actually see it, the 
example right beneath him is 

2276
02:13:49,920 --> 02:13:52,160
George Pickens. 
The problem is the pass volume, 

2277
02:13:52,720 --> 02:13:54,560
right? 
Like they're, you're just the, 

2278
02:13:54,600 --> 02:13:58,280
the volume for the Chargers pass
offense is going to be pretty 

2279
02:13:58,280 --> 02:14:01,400
low just 'cause they they don't 
like to pass. 

2280
02:14:01,400 --> 02:14:05,200
They they haven't been. 
And I mean, I don't even know 

2281
02:14:05,200 --> 02:14:08,400
what if the Chargers get pushed?
Like, do they even pass that 

2282
02:14:08,400 --> 02:14:11,680
much? 
So now here, here's the thing. 

2283
02:14:11,680 --> 02:14:17,520
They're coming off the by. 
Maybe, just maybe they off the 

2284
02:14:17,520 --> 02:14:19,560
by. 
They realize we should pass like

2285
02:14:19,560 --> 02:14:21,680
a little bit. 
I don't think that's likely. 

2286
02:14:22,040 --> 02:14:24,600
Now they're Broncos, too. 
No, I don't think you're going 

2287
02:14:24,600 --> 02:14:27,560
to get this moment of self 
reflection for Jim Harbaugh. 

2288
02:14:27,560 --> 02:14:33,400
It's like, you know, my entire 
career, Greg, what's Greg Roman?

2289
02:14:33,800 --> 02:14:37,680
My entire career has been based 
around running the ball, but I 

2290
02:14:37,680 --> 02:14:40,840
just had a week off. 
Fuck it, the big. 

2291
02:14:40,920 --> 02:14:44,800
Scare now you also don't have a 
great match up against the 

2292
02:14:44,800 --> 02:14:47,880
Broncos too, right? 
Like I think their past defense 

2293
02:14:47,880 --> 02:14:50,240
is pretty for real now. 
Yeah. 

2294
02:14:51,400 --> 02:14:55,000
I, I don't know if if Mcconkey 
draws Sir Tan or not. 

2295
02:14:55,000 --> 02:14:58,320
That'd be interesting. 
I mean because like if QJ draws 

2296
02:14:58,320 --> 02:15:01,240
Sir Tan, that actually seems 
kind of bullish to me. 

2297
02:15:01,240 --> 02:15:04,320
I just think you might end up 
with Mcconkey getting just 

2298
02:15:04,720 --> 02:15:07,400
everything he can handle in the 
limited pass attempts that they 

2299
02:15:07,400 --> 02:15:10,000
throw. 
Now, I I'm spending all this 

2300
02:15:10,000 --> 02:15:13,560
time on Lad Mcconkey because he 
goes undrafted in dog bowls. 

2301
02:15:13,920 --> 02:15:18,400
And the receivers that are going
ahead of him are a little gross 

2302
02:15:18,400 --> 02:15:20,440
to me. 
And I wanted to hear your, your 

2303
02:15:20,440 --> 02:15:23,000
thoughts on this. 
And like what? 

2304
02:15:23,200 --> 02:15:26,680
I'm just gonna read some 
receivers and I want you to tell

2305
02:15:26,680 --> 02:15:30,840
me stop when I get to 1, where 
you would take Lad Mcconkey over

2306
02:15:30,840 --> 02:15:31,520
him. 
OK. 

2307
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:43,080
Amari Cooper, Rashid Shihi, 
George Pickens, Dante V on Wix, 

2308
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:48,360
Jalen Tolbert. 
Yeah, these are all guys that 

2309
02:15:48,360 --> 02:15:51,680
that are like, you know, I can 
see how they get there, but 

2310
02:15:51,680 --> 02:15:53,600
like, I'm not, I'm not crazy 
about them either. 

2311
02:15:54,120 --> 02:15:57,160
Right, these are all every one 
of these players, Devante Adams,

2312
02:15:57,160 --> 02:16:00,200
Calvin Ridley, DeAndre Hopkins, 
Michael Pittman, Rashad Bateman,

2313
02:16:00,600 --> 02:16:03,400
all of them go ahead of live 
Mcconkey. 

2314
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:10,600
And like with I, I don't know, I
just I think that he's squarely 

2315
02:16:10,600 --> 02:16:14,640
in that tier of I mean, like 
shit, he's right next to Pickens

2316
02:16:14,640 --> 02:16:17,120
on this chart. 
Like he's and they're they're 

2317
02:16:17,120 --> 02:16:20,520
both in offenses that aren't 
passing very much like and and 

2318
02:16:20,520 --> 02:16:24,680
like lad, Mcconkey is not some 
like short yardage guy. 

2319
02:16:24,680 --> 02:16:26,680
Like he can operate downfield 
too. 

2320
02:16:26,680 --> 02:16:30,280
Like he he has he's he's A-44 
speed guy. 

2321
02:16:30,280 --> 02:16:36,000
Like I just I kind of think that
just like people played George 

2322
02:16:36,000 --> 02:16:39,680
Pickens and and got there on 
the, you know, the big Justin 

2323
02:16:39,680 --> 02:16:43,520
Fields eruption week, I think 
you could do worse than last 

2324
02:16:43,520 --> 02:16:46,920
round lab Mcconkey pick this 
week on a heavy bye week. 

2325
02:16:48,040 --> 02:16:49,480
That's all I'm saying. 
That's all. 

2326
02:16:50,879 --> 02:16:58,639
Yeah, yeah. 
So and and then the concern 

2327
02:16:58,639 --> 02:17:01,879
there is, is the volume, but 
it's not like that bad. 

2328
02:17:02,440 --> 02:17:06,080
Like and Justin Herbert's 
expected points from passing is 

2329
02:17:06,080 --> 02:17:12,000
11.6. 
Like that's low, but it's not 

2330
02:17:12,240 --> 02:17:18,559
that bad. 
Like their car is 12.2 and Lamar

2331
02:17:19,480 --> 02:17:24,080
well Jaden Dino's is 11.8, Josh 
Allen 11.7. 

2332
02:17:25,440 --> 02:17:28,160
Yeah, yeah, but you're you're 
listing all these guys here who 

2333
02:17:28,160 --> 02:17:30,480
I really am not wanting to play 
any of their receipt. 

2334
02:17:30,480 --> 02:17:32,400
Like I don't want to play a Josh
Allen receiver. 

2335
02:17:32,400 --> 02:17:34,719
I don't want to play a Jayden 
Daniels receiver outside of 

2336
02:17:34,719 --> 02:17:36,200
Terry Mclaurin who gets 
everything. 

2337
02:17:36,200 --> 02:17:39,680
Now, I guess you could say, 
well, lad, Mcconkey is going to 

2338
02:17:39,680 --> 02:17:41,920
be the gets everything guy. 
I think that's. 

2339
02:17:41,920 --> 02:17:43,680
What you have, that's what needs
to happen. 

2340
02:17:43,680 --> 02:17:46,719
Yeah, yeah. 
And I it's a bet I'm willing to 

2341
02:17:46,719 --> 02:17:50,719
make because I just the secret 
is stillwell kept on lad 

2342
02:17:50,719 --> 02:17:52,559
Mcconkey. 
This is one where you can get 

2343
02:17:53,240 --> 02:17:55,840
you can you can be ahead of the 
field on this one. 

2344
02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:59,559
It's a bad matchup, like they're
going to run the ball a bunch, 

2345
02:18:00,240 --> 02:18:04,400
but I I just think I believe in 
the talent of the player enough 

2346
02:18:04,840 --> 02:18:08,760
to get there. 
Yeah, yeah, make, make makes 

2347
02:18:08,760 --> 02:18:10,280
sense for sure. 
All right. 

2348
02:18:10,360 --> 02:18:11,840
Let's let's move to this last 
chart. 

2349
02:18:11,840 --> 02:18:18,040
We'll take us home. 
OK. 

2350
02:18:18,040 --> 02:18:20,760
There's only, there's really 
only two guys I had on this 

2351
02:18:20,760 --> 02:18:23,240
chart and I I've got notes on 
them. 

2352
02:18:23,240 --> 02:18:24,440
I can knock them out pretty 
quick. 

2353
02:18:24,440 --> 02:18:25,719
But I wanted to give you a 
chance. 

2354
02:18:25,719 --> 02:18:27,959
Was there anyone other than 
these two guys I've got in the 

2355
02:18:27,959 --> 02:18:30,120
show notes that you wanted to 
talk about here? 

2356
02:18:30,920 --> 02:18:35,600
And no, no, nothing, nothing 
really stands. 

2357
02:18:35,600 --> 02:18:38,920
I mean, you're, you're kind of 
still disappointed with the CK 

2358
02:18:38,920 --> 02:18:43,959
on Coleman still in this like 
really low route share. 

2359
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:48,080
It is. 
It is progressing positively for

2360
02:18:48,080 --> 02:18:50,280
him though. 
You can see he's up to the 65% 

2361
02:18:50,280 --> 02:18:53,200
to 70% all the seats are now. 
Yeah. 

2362
02:18:53,200 --> 02:18:54,799
So I'm just looking at the week 
to week. 

2363
02:18:55,080 --> 02:19:00,959
So his his most recent, OK, OK. 
So it's it's being knocked down 

2364
02:19:00,959 --> 02:19:04,879
by a 31% route share and week 
tree. 

2365
02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:07,200
And that was the. 
Two, we could be disciplined. 

2366
02:19:08,000 --> 02:19:15,799
Yeah, the last, the last time 2 
has been 7372% and so still not 

2367
02:19:15,799 --> 02:19:21,840
great on a low volume offense. 
And then just 15% target for 

2368
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:27,840
outrun in, in week, 419% in week
5. 

2369
02:19:29,240 --> 02:19:32,520
Like I, I think, I think you 
have to be a little bit 

2370
02:19:32,520 --> 02:19:36,840
concerned about Keon Coleman. 
Yeah, I would be concerned. 

2371
02:19:36,840 --> 02:19:40,520
The the reason I'm I'm not as 
concerned about Keon Coleman is 

2372
02:19:40,520 --> 02:19:44,799
that they're nothing is working 
for them in the passing game, so

2373
02:19:44,799 --> 02:19:46,959
they have to try something and 
to. 

2374
02:19:47,040 --> 02:19:49,600
Try something. 
But The thing is their early 

2375
02:19:49,600 --> 02:19:52,720
receiver, yeah, it's really 
weird that they're not getting 

2376
02:19:52,720 --> 02:19:54,520
involved. 
It's really weird. 

2377
02:19:54,720 --> 02:19:58,640
I think they're stupid as fuck. 
I think, I think the Bills 

2378
02:19:58,640 --> 02:20:02,440
organization hit their head a 
few too many times because. 

2379
02:20:02,480 --> 02:20:04,600
Why isn't Josh Allen targeting 
him more? 

2380
02:20:04,960 --> 02:20:09,200
I don't know, it's not working 
like what you're trying isn't 

2381
02:20:09,200 --> 02:20:14,280
working like. 
So I I think that this it's it's

2382
02:20:14,280 --> 02:20:16,920
one of those things where right 
now the bills keep touching the 

2383
02:20:16,920 --> 02:20:19,120
stove. 
They're like maybe if we just 

2384
02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:22,560
what if we throw I I had a note.
I don't even I. 

2385
02:20:22,560 --> 02:20:29,640
Don't think we hit this it this 
is the this is the JSN root tree

2386
02:20:29,640 --> 02:20:32,160
where it's or. 
No, not the JSN root tree. 

2387
02:20:32,520 --> 02:20:37,160
And who's this George Pickens 
root tree from two years ago 

2388
02:20:37,160 --> 02:20:39,440
where all they're doing is 
trying to go routes? 

2389
02:20:39,440 --> 02:20:41,400
Yeah, it's just the. 
Same type of route. 

2390
02:20:41,440 --> 02:20:44,200
So like, yeah, I guess you do 
need that to be mixed up a bit. 

2391
02:20:44,360 --> 02:20:46,360
But I I had this note on Josh 
Allen. 

2392
02:20:46,360 --> 02:20:50,280
I think it's it adds good 
context to to Keon Coleman. 

2393
02:20:50,960 --> 02:20:54,480
They have a 58% pass rate that's
the same as New England with 

2394
02:20:54,480 --> 02:20:58,200
Jacoby Brissett. 
The highest attempts that Josh 

2395
02:20:58,200 --> 02:21:00,360
Allen has on the season so far 
is 30. 

2396
02:21:00,960 --> 02:21:04,040
Last season, prior to firing 
their offensive coordinator and 

2397
02:21:04,040 --> 02:21:09,040
switching to Joe Brady, he only 
had two games lower than 30 pass

2398
02:21:09,040 --> 02:21:12,880
attempts. 
So this this like revert back to

2399
02:21:13,000 --> 02:21:16,680
the Stone Age thing that they're
trying isn't working. 

2400
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:20,560
They've they've managed to win a
couple games because Josh Allen 

2401
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:24,520
will do Superman things. 
But there's only so many times 

2402
02:21:24,520 --> 02:21:27,120
you can touch the stove and get 
burned and keep putting your 

2403
02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:30,000
hand on it. 
And I've got to think that as 

2404
02:21:30,000 --> 02:21:33,200
Trogola did it, as I believe 
that the Bills coaching staff is

2405
02:21:33,520 --> 02:21:37,360
that there's only you can only 
burn your hand so many times 

2406
02:21:37,360 --> 02:21:41,040
before you realize like, man, 
this isn't working anymore. 

2407
02:21:41,040 --> 02:21:44,720
So that's why I think like Keon 
Coleman in the short term, 

2408
02:21:44,760 --> 02:21:47,000
definitely agree with you. 
Like it's probably, it's going 

2409
02:21:47,000 --> 02:21:49,960
to take a little bit, but I 
think eventually when they 

2410
02:21:49,960 --> 02:21:53,680
figure their shit out, they 
might have to switch to using 

2411
02:21:53,680 --> 02:21:55,920
Keon Coleman a little more the 
ball more. 

2412
02:21:55,920 --> 02:22:00,040
It's it's it it there, you've 
got some probability there that 

2413
02:22:00,040 --> 02:22:02,480
it's just mismanagement and it's
not per play I. 

2414
02:22:02,800 --> 02:22:07,280
Think it's a high probability of
mismanagement, but OK, we'll 

2415
02:22:07,280 --> 02:22:09,120
we'll hit these last two guys I 
had notes on. 

2416
02:22:10,440 --> 02:22:12,640
OK, hear me out. 
We talked about the running back

2417
02:22:12,680 --> 02:22:15,960
versus the Colts, but can I 
interest you in some DeAndre 

2418
02:22:15,960 --> 02:22:20,360
Hopkins against the Colts? 
Does he still have his his his 

2419
02:22:20,360 --> 02:22:23,760
knee injury? 
So, OK, I actually did some 

2420
02:22:23,760 --> 02:22:27,280
digging on this because there 
were people there were some 

2421
02:22:27,280 --> 02:22:30,680
people that were floating the 
DeAndre Hopkins is going to get 

2422
02:22:30,680 --> 02:22:32,760
traded to the Chiefs. 
Nonsense. 

2423
02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:39,080
And I, yeah, And I, I said 
that's not going to happen 

2424
02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:42,480
because this player cannot even 
pass a physical for the Chiefs 

2425
02:22:42,480 --> 02:22:45,680
right now because they're going 
to examine him and be like, 

2426
02:22:45,680 --> 02:22:47,640
yeah, we don't really want to 
sign you. 

2427
02:22:47,640 --> 02:22:50,800
We don't want to trade for you 
because you have no, you've torn

2428
02:22:50,800 --> 02:22:53,040
your MCL. 
So here's you're not going to 

2429
02:22:53,040 --> 02:22:54,640
pass this physical, bud. 
Sorry. 

2430
02:22:54,920 --> 02:23:00,200
So I, I, I threw that out there 
and I was informed that back in,

2431
02:23:00,200 --> 02:23:04,440
I think it was week 3, DeAndre 
Hopkins came out and adamantly 

2432
02:23:04,440 --> 02:23:08,720
denied that his MCL was torn, 
which is very weird because 

2433
02:23:08,720 --> 02:23:12,160
DeAndre Hopkins is the one who 
gave the interview before the 

2434
02:23:12,160 --> 02:23:15,480
season that he tore his MCL. 
So I went back, I looked at the 

2435
02:23:15,480 --> 02:23:19,440
original story, DeAndre Hopkins 
explicit the, the exact quote 

2436
02:23:19,440 --> 02:23:23,760
was that he tore his MCL and 
that these things take up to a 

2437
02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:27,200
year to heal and that he'd torn 
his MCL before, so he had 

2438
02:23:27,200 --> 02:23:30,040
experience with it. 
Sounded like a torn MCL to me. 

2439
02:23:30,400 --> 02:23:34,720
But then in week 3, he 
explicitly says he did not tear 

2440
02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:38,400
his MCL and then it was more 
like a more like a sprain. 

2441
02:23:38,480 --> 02:23:40,400
He said it's more like an ankle 
sprain. 

2442
02:23:40,920 --> 02:23:45,960
So one of one of these two 
statements is is clearly false, 

2443
02:23:46,120 --> 02:23:48,600
right? 
I don't know which one it is, 

2444
02:23:49,120 --> 02:23:53,240
but we have seen his route rate 
increase, you know, from. 

2445
02:23:53,280 --> 02:23:56,840
Increase to 57%. 
Yes, but it's increased from the

2446
02:23:56,840 --> 02:23:59,240
start of the season, so 
increased. 

2447
02:23:59,240 --> 02:24:05,440
From 24% in week 1 to 57% in 
week 4, right? 

2448
02:24:06,840 --> 02:24:10,120
So you're not into the DeAndre 
Hopkins against the coals thing?

2449
02:24:12,280 --> 02:24:18,680
It seems pretty tin, OK. 
More or less than the DeAndre 

2450
02:24:18,680 --> 02:24:20,480
Hopkins is getting traded to the
Chiefs. 

2451
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:24,840
I mean, I think he has a much 
higher probability of scoring 20

2452
02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:28,040
points as we getting traded. 
To the Chiefs, I think DeAndre 

2453
02:24:28,040 --> 02:24:32,160
Hopkins has a much higher chance
of being the first NFL player on

2454
02:24:32,160 --> 02:24:34,000
the moon than being traded to 
the Chiefs. 

2455
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:39,120
All right, last last guy. 
Are we doing the Juju thing? 

2456
02:24:41,440 --> 02:24:48,440
Is he just Diet Rashi? 
You know, you see, you see these

2457
02:24:48,440 --> 02:24:50,840
vets come out and, and they have
good games. 

2458
02:24:54,200 --> 02:25:00,360
Like so he had what he had a 4.5
yards per out run, that 28% 

2459
02:25:00,360 --> 02:25:07,880
target per out run. 
I like, I don't, I, I can buy 

2460
02:25:07,880 --> 02:25:11,520
that he has his role now. 
I like, I don't really do not 

2461
02:25:11,520 --> 02:25:13,640
buy that it's gonna work, that 
it's gonna work. 

2462
02:25:13,880 --> 02:25:16,320
Very often. 
That's a, that's a good 

2463
02:25:16,320 --> 02:25:19,920
assessment, yeah. 
That that. 

2464
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:21,360
That's what I think about it 
anyway. 

2465
02:25:21,360 --> 02:25:25,480
Like he he got cooked. 
Didn't he get cooked by the 

2466
02:25:25,480 --> 02:25:27,840
Patriots? 
He did like he didn't get cut by

2467
02:25:27,840 --> 02:25:29,960
the Patriots, so. 
They were like, you know what, 

2468
02:25:30,120 --> 02:25:31,880
you're the worst receiver we 
have. 

2469
02:25:32,160 --> 02:25:35,880
Like, see you bud. 
The Patriots decided booty KJ 

2470
02:25:35,880 --> 02:25:41,360
Osbourne, Kendrick Bourne on IR 
with a torn ACL like all those 

2471
02:25:41,360 --> 02:25:45,600
guys were better than Juju so. 
And he didn't have like, some, 

2472
02:25:51,320 --> 02:26:00,200
OK, so they did own a big a big 
salary, but they're gonna have 

2473
02:26:00,200 --> 02:26:04,960
to pay him anyway. 
Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't 

2474
02:26:04,960 --> 02:26:10,320
think Juju is very good, but 
that's welcome to the Chiefs 

2475
02:26:10,320 --> 02:26:13,240
wide receiver room. 
You know, no one, no one here is

2476
02:26:13,240 --> 02:26:15,360
very good. 
There's Xavier Worthy who is 

2477
02:26:15,360 --> 02:26:17,640
still getting the Andy Reid 
like, well, he's a rookie, so 

2478
02:26:17,640 --> 02:26:18,800
we're going to bring him on 
slowly. 

2479
02:26:18,800 --> 02:26:21,480
Think Xavier Worthy is going to 
do the same thing that we saw 

2480
02:26:21,480 --> 02:26:24,480
from Roshi Rice last year? 
Or it's like, Oh my God, why 

2481
02:26:24,480 --> 02:26:26,800
aren't they using Roshi more? 
We're so frustrated or so 

2482
02:26:26,800 --> 02:26:29,000
frustrated. 
Then like by weeks 8:00 to 

2483
02:26:29,000 --> 02:26:30,840
12:00, there's going to be signs
of life. 

2484
02:26:31,120 --> 02:26:34,120
And then down the stretch, 
you're going to be really happy 

2485
02:26:34,120 --> 02:26:37,520
about Xavier Worthy. 
But it's like, I've seen this 

2486
02:26:37,600 --> 02:26:41,720
show before with Andy Reid and. 
You know, I think the, I think 

2487
02:26:41,720 --> 02:26:48,400
the Xavier wordy piece is a 
little bit different because the

2488
02:26:48,480 --> 02:26:51,920
issue with Rashi, it was like, 
oh, they're only playing them on

2489
02:26:51,920 --> 02:26:57,960
40% of snaps, but those 40% of 
snaps he's getting like a 25% 

2490
02:26:58,960 --> 02:27:01,640
targets per out run. 
And then he looks incredible on 

2491
02:27:01,640 --> 02:27:07,600
it. 
So Wordy is he actually has a 

2492
02:27:07,680 --> 02:27:12,120
pretty solid route rate. 
Like I think it's like in the 

2493
02:27:12,160 --> 02:27:16,520
80%, but he's not getting 
targeted that much on it. 

2494
02:27:17,360 --> 02:27:21,040
And I, I mean, I bet the reason 
for that is that they literally 

2495
02:27:21,040 --> 02:27:25,680
just have running go routes. 
So you need them to expand it 

2496
02:27:25,680 --> 02:27:28,680
rather than like playing more. 
They need to expand this route 

2497
02:27:28,680 --> 02:27:31,680
tree and like that can happen 
with young players where they're

2498
02:27:31,680 --> 02:27:34,520
like, yeah, we're just going to 
ask you to do this one thing and

2499
02:27:34,520 --> 02:27:38,480
that's it. 
And similar to Keon Coleman. 

2500
02:27:38,920 --> 02:27:40,320
Yeah. 
And that's, I think that's 

2501
02:27:40,320 --> 02:27:44,320
really good analysis because it 
is, it is different than the way

2502
02:27:44,320 --> 02:27:48,240
the Rashi situation developed. 
I think it's, there's a couple 

2503
02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:52,000
reasons why it's different #1 
like they, they kind of needed 

2504
02:27:52,000 --> 02:27:54,200
that skill set from Worthy on 
the field. 

2505
02:27:54,200 --> 02:27:56,760
They needed that deep speed to 
be able to take the yeah. 

2506
02:27:56,880 --> 02:27:59,200
They probably still do. 
They do. 

2507
02:28:00,040 --> 02:28:04,760
They also had going into the 
season this the plan was very 

2508
02:28:04,760 --> 02:28:06,880
likely. 
Rashi works the underneath 

2509
02:28:06,880 --> 02:28:10,440
stuff, Hollywood's kind of the 
intermediate guy and Xavier 

2510
02:28:10,440 --> 02:28:13,960
Worthy takes the top up the 
defense and Travis, you can you 

2511
02:28:13,960 --> 02:28:15,920
can chill. 
We won't pepper you with a ton 

2512
02:28:15,920 --> 02:28:18,080
of volume. 
We'll kind of save you tell the 

2513
02:28:18,080 --> 02:28:21,720
playoffs and then you and Rashi,
you're both the dynamic duo 

2514
02:28:21,720 --> 02:28:23,040
underneath. 
You're the two option. 

2515
02:28:23,040 --> 02:28:26,600
Now we kind of add you into the 
fold and ramp up your volume. 

2516
02:28:26,920 --> 02:28:29,920
We're seeing the plan have to 
change, changed before our eyes.

2517
02:28:30,200 --> 02:28:33,920
And so I guess what I'm saying 
is I, I just think over the 

2518
02:28:33,920 --> 02:28:37,200
season, the plan can change with
worthy, like you said, where 

2519
02:28:37,200 --> 02:28:40,120
they add more routes for him, 
because one thing I've seen a 

2520
02:28:40,120 --> 02:28:42,480
lot of people get wrong about 
Savior worthy is I've seen a 

2521
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:45,920
bunch of people say, Oh, he was,
he's an incomplete prospect. 

2522
02:28:45,920 --> 02:28:48,320
He's a project. 
He's just a, he's just a burner.

2523
02:28:48,320 --> 02:28:52,240
It's like don't don't talk about
that if you don't know what 

2524
02:28:52,240 --> 02:28:53,920
you're talking about. 
You're just you're telling on 

2525
02:28:53,920 --> 02:28:56,360
yourself that you never looked 
at his prospect profile because 

2526
02:28:56,360 --> 02:29:01,640
Xavier worthy won it in all 
areas throughout his like he did

2527
02:29:01,640 --> 02:29:05,600
different things in each year of
his college career and he's the 

2528
02:29:05,600 --> 02:29:09,360
only player to get in the same 
echelon as Marvin Harrison 

2529
02:29:09,360 --> 02:29:12,160
junior and Malik neighbors as 
far as his targets per route 

2530
02:29:12,160 --> 02:29:16,440
run. 
So like just, excuse me, his 

2531
02:29:16,440 --> 02:29:20,120
yards per route run in college, 
like he was the only one to get 

2532
02:29:20,120 --> 02:29:22,880
close to those two guys. 
I believe he had a better yards 

2533
02:29:22,880 --> 02:29:25,640
per route run than them in I. 
Want to see he had him. 

2534
02:29:26,120 --> 02:29:31,480
He I think at the time he had 
the best freshman year of all 

2535
02:29:31,480 --> 02:29:35,000
time for a receiver. 
And they, they changed how they 

2536
02:29:35,120 --> 02:29:39,280
used, yeah, they, they changed 
how they used him over the 

2537
02:29:39,280 --> 02:29:41,720
course of his collegiate career 
as well. 

2538
02:29:41,960 --> 02:29:45,200
Where he was, there was a season
where he was more, more of a 

2539
02:29:45,200 --> 02:29:47,040
deep ball guy. 
There was a season where he did 

2540
02:29:47,040 --> 02:29:49,160
a lot of short underneath scheme
stuff. 

2541
02:29:50,040 --> 02:29:52,720
He, he had some intermediate 
passing in there as well. 

2542
02:29:52,720 --> 02:29:55,800
And so, and then you also get 
the season where he has the 

2543
02:29:55,800 --> 02:29:58,760
broken hand. 
So a bunch of the like he has, 

2544
02:29:58,760 --> 02:30:01,480
you know, issues with efficiency
because he's not catching stuff 

2545
02:30:01,480 --> 02:30:03,120
because he's playing with a 
broken hand. 

2546
02:30:03,480 --> 02:30:06,520
And then you also have Quinn, 
you were so he's playing with a 

2547
02:30:06,520 --> 02:30:09,200
broken quarterback that can't 
actually throw the ball that's 

2548
02:30:09,200 --> 02:30:12,360
catchable. 
So like you get a guy who is a 

2549
02:30:12,360 --> 02:30:15,560
much more complete prospect than
I think people realize. 

2550
02:30:16,880 --> 02:30:20,840
And I so I, I just think that 
the, the breakout is like pretty

2551
02:30:20,840 --> 02:30:23,800
clear to me, like how it happens
for the Chiefs. 

2552
02:30:23,880 --> 02:30:27,520
And so I, I think to bring this 
all back to the are we doing the

2553
02:30:27,520 --> 02:30:31,480
Juju thing? 
Juju kind of seems like a guy 

2554
02:30:31,480 --> 02:30:35,440
who, if there was someone who is
going to lose work to a more 

2555
02:30:35,440 --> 02:30:39,600
talented player, Juju is here as
a stopgap until they feel more 

2556
02:30:39,600 --> 02:30:43,640
confident that they can deploy 
worthy in all quadrants of the 

2557
02:30:43,640 --> 02:30:46,360
field. 
And then you're really just 

2558
02:30:46,360 --> 02:30:50,240
asking yourself like, well, is 
Juju going to be in losing snaps

2559
02:30:50,240 --> 02:30:53,400
to Mikkel Hardman? 
So Mikkel can run the deep clear

2560
02:30:53,400 --> 02:30:56,920
out stuff and then you're 
getting worthy operating is more

2561
02:30:56,920 --> 02:30:59,400
of like the secondary receiver 
behind Kelsey. 

2562
02:30:59,400 --> 02:31:03,480
But anyway. 
So I stopped sharing just 

2563
02:31:03,480 --> 02:31:09,160
because I found this chart which
shows his like I guess it was 

2564
02:31:09,160 --> 02:31:13,720
this year his target profile 
where you see where it is on the

2565
02:31:13,720 --> 02:31:15,840
field. 
You can see this is literally 

2566
02:31:15,840 --> 02:31:17,600
all over the field. 
Yeah. 

2567
02:31:18,040 --> 02:31:22,920
This is on stots BOM and thought
that was interesting. 

2568
02:31:23,200 --> 02:31:25,480
It's not if you're trying to 
share it, it's not currently 

2569
02:31:25,480 --> 02:31:28,880
sharing. 
I forgot to press that button. 

2570
02:31:29,840 --> 02:31:32,960
I wish I had like a better sure 
view. 

2571
02:31:33,400 --> 02:31:36,920
And no, I can see, yeah, you can
see it's all over the map. 

2572
02:31:37,160 --> 02:31:39,120
Looks like a guy who operates in
all quadrants. 

2573
02:31:39,840 --> 02:31:43,000
And then and then It's also put 
next to. 

2574
02:31:43,240 --> 02:31:45,560
You can see it's put next. 
To. 

2575
02:31:46,480 --> 02:31:50,800
Tyree kill. 
Yeah, interesting. 

2576
02:31:54,080 --> 02:32:01,600
This is interesting. 
Is it for us? 

2577
02:32:02,280 --> 02:32:07,120
Yeah, I think we'll end on that 
note if you managed to make it 

2578
02:32:07,120 --> 02:32:09,200
through the whole 2 1/2 hours 
with us. 

2579
02:32:09,200 --> 02:32:10,560
Thank you. 
We appreciate you. 

2580
02:32:10,680 --> 02:32:15,640
I hope that we gave you some 
actual info for this week and to

2581
02:32:16,400 --> 02:32:20,480
Drap who took down his second 
dog bowl seat this last week and

2582
02:32:20,840 --> 02:32:25,080
messaged me about how he he 
appreciated us talking about Joe

2583
02:32:25,080 --> 02:32:29,000
Burrow because we we partially 
put him on to Joe Burrow last 

2584
02:32:29,000 --> 02:32:30,440
week. 
You're welcome. 

2585
02:32:30,440 --> 02:32:34,400
And also I'm really sad because 
you continuously sniped me on 

2586
02:32:34,400 --> 02:32:36,800
all the Bengals stuff I was 
trying to do last week and you 

2587
02:32:36,800 --> 02:32:39,480
won your second dog bowl seat. 
So Congrats to you. 

2588
02:32:39,480 --> 02:32:43,200
Maybe say one for me this week 
and we'll see you next week, 

2589
02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:46,280
everybody. 
See you next week, everyone.

