Hello everyone, and welcome to a special August 26th edition of
ATP Chasing. We have just two shows left on
the calendar, which means at least two more two against
comparisons, one more Big Dog draft, and lots of talk about
Luke McCaffrey. Let's do it.
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Back in, if it's Austinette, it's.
Stared to our crystal ball. Close your eyes, you know all
your entries are going to. Lose anyway.
Yeah, that's fair. This is a Deuce vant show.
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It's anti the best ball thought leader.
I'm obviously lying to some degree because like, I have a
lot of both of these. Guys, it's the most disgusting
thing you can make. But man, Davis, Pat, just two
shows left on the calendar for you to be chasing.
We're we're almost there almost the regular season.
How you guys doing? Doing good I.
Don't have enough time, man. It sneaks up when you're right.
I have so many best ball minions to drive.
I'm just finishing up a best ball mini up right now.
I've 29 left to do. I am about the same.
Yeah, I think I have. Let's see, I think I might have
exactly 29 now. 29, yeah. Yeah, I had this this pipe
dream. I've I've talked about it many
times, but I'm in a state right now where I can't draft an
underdog. I'm moving to Boston on Friday
and I have this pipe dream of moving there and doing like 120
drafts in two days, but I think it's going to fail before I even
get there. So I think I might have.
To be on Friday. No, you'll, you'll, you'll.
Might be OK. If you could tell your wife or
partner to to leave you be, you could do it.
It's not going to be very fun. It's not going to be pretty,
yeah. There's a guy in in got a.
Deal from the active tab. There there's a guy in Pete's
discord who who got who also lives in a banned state.
He drove and got a hotel room for a weekend and fast drafted
for an entire weekend and just until his eyes bled.
He just did fast until his eyes bled.
That's basically what you're signing up for.
Yeah. And I mean, that's it's going to
be a tough sell to my girlfriend.
I'm moving in with the first time as we're unloading the
boxes and we're like, hey, sorry, sorry, I can't, I can't
help out right now. I got something important to do
that's that's going to be a tough one, but.
You just got to tell. It dude, you just got to ship.
It top, top two, win it, win it. You just got to get, you just
got to tell her that Xavier Worthy in the fifth round is
like buying Bitcoin in in 2014. Yeah, yeah, now I'm sure I can
convince her. Well, anyways, today we got a
packed show, so let's dive right into it.
I'm. Going to refresh my screen
because I got to end this stream and I don't have the controls so
this is a good time with any SO. OK.
Yeah, as Pat is getting this set up, just for today, quick
preview, we're going to be going through Rogers and followers of
the past week focusing on the late round targets.
You know, usually we've actually done percentage change in ADP,
but we're going to look at raw change in ADP to really pull up
some of the late round movers over the past week.
And then so we'll do that for about an hour at 3:30 to be
hopping in a big dog draft. So for everyone watching, he
wants to draft against us. Try to join a lobby around then.
But yeah, let's start today diving right into the largest
raw ADP risers of the past week #1 here Bonex is up 15 spots off
of news that he is going to be the starter in week one.
Start with you, Davis. What are your takes on Bonex at
185 ADP? Still a good pick.
I mean, I kind of expected him to be the 17 week starter
anyways, so this is not changing, you know, The only
thing it changed for me is where I take Bonex, whereas Bonex used
to be oh nice, I can just sit around 1718.
I can do Bonex and Greg Dulcich or Bonex and Marvin Mims or
Bonex and Troy Franklin or whatever.
Now I'm like, Oh, well, I'll just take him 1516 and then
figure it out later. Already twice today I've done Bo
Knicks and Drake May 1516 to set up the three quarterback room.
And then, oh, I'll take Bourne, I'll take Mims, I'll take
dosage, I'll take estimate, you know, whatever ends up
happening. And that feels like a pretty
optimal way to end basketball maniases.
And it's just to get a bunch more of Knicks and May teams
there at the end. I've been taking a lot less
Knicks recently because I'm not taking Mims, I'm not taking
Franklin and I've never really taken that much Sutton.
I don't really take Dulcich. I do draft the running backs.
He's fine with the running backs I think.
He is fine with the running backs.
Yeah, maybe even for our thesis of how the Denver Broncos work
in 2024. Might even be optimal where
they're rotating the wide receivers a ton.
They have hyper specific roles. None of them other than Sutton
have route participation over 70%.
Whereas we know or we don't know, but we are projecting him
to be an incredibly efficient passer to the running backs.
Yeah. And I also.
Think in maybe more of a DraftKings take but I think both
Tim Patrick and Josh Reynolds are actually OK on draft.
I mean 20th round DraftKings get so ugly.
I get their boring picks but probably not taking those guys
an underdog. But I think you can play it with
those like super late guys as well if you want to.
Yeah, I, I think on draftking I, I have really have trouble
clicking either guy. There's like some boring veteran
guys that I'm I'm OK with. Patrick, I guess has a case
because no one was really drafting before.
And Reynolds? Yeah, I mean only stacked with
Nix. I'm saying obviously.
Only stacked with Nix. Yeah, yeah.
Well, Reynolds. Has the same but he might
Patrick slot and he's not good. His Achilles already hurts like
it's it's August 26th and we already got the first Patrick
battling through wear and tear on his Achilles.
Like I think Patrick is like kind of the ultimate week one
brain and Franklin is now the ultimate week 17 brain pick.
I agree, but I also don't know that we can really take Franklin
anymore because he's so buried. No, he's, he's like unclickable.
But you can get Mims in round 18 now like I just did.
I just took a Marvin Mims round 18.
Yeah, that's that's true. Yeah, the Mims stuff to me
seems, I mean, we'll jump to this.
Yeah, let's let's, let's jump to the the wide receivers here.
We're already there. Patrick is up 12 spots from
undrafted to now like kind of a routine 18th round picking
underdog. Mims is down 10 spots I guess
like I I still think it's it's like both of them feel really
uncomfortable. I'd almost rather take Franklin
than Mims. Like Mims is now the second year
guy that is buried on the depth chart.
Like I interpret that almost worse than the rookie that's
buried on the depth chart. I do think Mims has some like
rotational deep threat role week one.
But man, he looks like like wide receiver of five, like 4.
If you're being generous in the depth chart right now, that's
that's not a place you want a second year wide receiver with
second round draft capital to be.
So I've really struggle with them.
I guess 18th round. You can't really, you know, hit
on any pick too hard. I've really struggled though
with Mims now. No, I mean you, you can't you
definitely we should, we should be hating on each other's 18th
round picks actively. I guess it's just the way I play
the game honestly. Like I'm just like really never
betting on the 29 year old coming off of back-to-back
catastrophic season ending lower body injuries versus the young
guy who is an elite analytical prospect.
Very good athletic profile, like who I think can play like maybe
maybe he's it's like a total slappy pick.
I just can't really bring myself to click Patrick over Mims like
in this exact like, yeah. This is the choice you have,
Yeah. Yeah, on a non Knicks team I'm
not clicking either one of them, but on on a Knicks team I'm
still taking Mims. If we want to dabble with a
little truth serum, I still think Franklin is the most
intriguing guy in this room. I am not drafting Franklin
anymore and maybe I'm just bad defending the shares that I had.
But like, if any of these guys emerges down the stretch, you
know, ends up mattering in the playoffs, I still think
Franklin, like as far as mattering goes, is the most
intriguing just because of that Bonex connection.
Now we know where he's We're going to get 17 games if he gets
out there, you know, maybe. I still have that.
Connection. A Galaxy brain take on top of
that Nix is him the Broncos get off to like an unexpectedly hot
start. You know, it could be anything,
could be they just get really lucky, some turnover, whatever
it is, but they get off to a hot start.
Knicks and Peyton have their quarterback meeting on a
Tuesday. It's week seven and Knicks goes
enough of this Josh Reynolds shit.
We have four, we have four wins already.
I want to play with my guy. Let's.
Get my guy out on the field. Let's get my guy out on the
field. Yeah, Julia McLaughlin also says
Franklin's a hard worker and no one works harder than Julia
McLaughlin. So that's that's a, there's been
only negative news on Franklin the entire summer, but Julia
likes him. So that's that's helpful.
Yeah, we'll get to this later. I dug into some of the the
preseason data. Troy Franklin has like by far
the worst preseason stats of like any wide receiver in the
preseason this year like she. Can't you know what cannot be
worse than Brendan Rice, to be honest?
Are you looking at like you're saying like what he did as
opposed to when he played, what he did when playing?
Yeah, what he did when on the field, he has a 4.9% targets for
route run on 41 routes. That's yeah, Brendan Rice is
down there too, Davis, but that's a even even worse than
Brendan Rice. Like that's again this pre
season stuff. We'll have that conversation
later. It's not like the end all be
all, but the Troy Franklin when he's been on the field against
like accountants in the fourth quarter has not been getting
thrown the ball. So that doesn't seem seem.
Right, Honestly, I don't the pre season is we take a look at
these guys. To me, what do you see?
You know the the targets per outrun on Troy Frank.
We know he's buried. I think at a certain point
you're just kind of just reminding yourself that he's
buried. Yeah.
Anyways on Patrick, I did have have one thing I wanted to get
to quickly on Tim Patrick. So look at the last two seasons
played for Tim Patrick. You can kind of paint a story
where he looks a little bit better than our perceptions
might say a 70% targets for route run, one for six, 1.6
yards for route run. That looks very similar to a
player who currently goes in the fourth round.
So I don't know Davis. Do you have any guesses on who
this this mystery wide receiver here might be?
Is that Terry Mclaurin? No close.
Very close. They flowers.
Are there any other JB quarterbacks in the league?
I mean, I don't know. Why did you even blurt?
Jake. Jake Browning it.
Could be Jake Browning, it could be Joe Burrow, it could be yeah.
It really could be anyone. Yeah, this is now.
Do we factor in the context that he hasn't played, as Kevin said,
since the Eisenhower administration?
Does that matter? Doesn't feel that relevant.
Doesn't know. It doesn't.
Oh, Jacoby percent. Although, although Kevin, I
don't know, I don't know if he counts anymore.
Yeah, I heard, I heard Jacoby Brissett is getting traded for a
conditional fifth round pick to the Minnesota Vikings.
That'd be sweet. This is this is totally
unrelated, but I want to say this on a show before I forget
it. Mike White getting released by
the Miami Dolphins. Loki.
So bullish for Justin Jefferson instead of having Jaron instead
of Jaron Hall as the backup quarterback.
Mike White. Well, they could now.
Oh. Man, that won't hurt my brain.
I. Always for Devante Adams and.
For everyone. Receiver, it could definitely be
bullish. It could definitely be bullish
for Devante Adams. Yeah, should probably wait until
Mike White signs before boosting any of these budgets.
I just, I just wanted it out there, that's all.
I just wanted it out there. It's out there.
Let's let's get to moving on from the The mystery of art
receiver was T Higgins for people.
Who, Yeah, yeah. People not familiar with.
This if you've never watched any.
Of these cases before. Yeah.
So Tim, I mean Tim Patrick's basically just TT.
Higgins, like and subscribe please if you don't know who
that player was. Please like and subscribe.
Yeah, moving on the Johan Dodson trade, I wanted to get to the
fallout from that. We have both Luke McCaffrey and
Diami Brown, Pat's number one ranked dynasty wide receiver up
around in ADP and Johan Dodson is down nearly a full round off
of this trade. Yeah, I know, I know.
Pat, you own 100% dummy round dynasty.
So let's let's hear the bulk case it.
Was free Once Upon a. Time.
No, I went down with the ship with you on that one.
Whatever that year was, I drafted so much it.
Was the year Aman Raw was not going that far ahead of him.
So yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. OK, like and subscribe to the
show like. And subscribe.
We've never had any misses. I don't know.
I'm not really doing the Diami Brown thing.
He's just not been good at all. Olamide Zacchaeus might be the
guy instead of him. I just don't we we don't really
stand to win anything here. And there's also a low floor.
So it just doesn't really make sense to me.
I think if you're interested in chasing targets in this offense
and there will be volume in this offense, even though Daniels is
going to run a lot, they're they're going to run a lot of
plays in total. So there's going to be offense
here. I think you know, Mclaurin
honestly is a pretty decent pick, although you kind of this
IU thing now he's now there's like a little bit of nervousness
there. But if you're looking at non
Mclaurin ways to play it, to me it's Eckler who's still pretty
cheap. Pretty free.
Yeah, I I was not planning on being overweight.
RB40 for Austin Eckler. I'm at like 9% in basketball
mania, which I didn't realize. I thought I was fading him.
And I'm like, oh, I guess I've just been scooping him so much.
I'm actually overweight. And then the other way.
And you know, it's really gross. But Zach Ertz.
Zach Ertz is completely free. Yeah, What about Luke McCaffrey
though? Come on.
Can we, can we, can we please be serious on this program for
three minutes like the people who are right now buying into
August 26th? Reports that Luke McCaffrey is
behind Olamide Zacchaeus and Jameson Crowder on the depth
chart is the most chronic case of week one brain in the history
of fantasy football. We've done Jameson Crowder for
like every team in the AFC East. We've done it already.
We've seen it. Jameson Crowder was in this
Bills wide receiver room last year and people were
unironically being like, aren't you worried about Jameson
Crowder? Luke McCaffrey by week four is
going to have 71% route participation for the Washington
Commanders and is going to look good on those routes.
Non derogatory. That's fair because yeah, I
don't you know, the the bar is very low for what he's got to
do. I will know though that he's
he's not a good prospect and we're.
Certain point of view I'm I'm calling, I'm invoking, I'm
invoking certain point of view here.
So the the guy is that is literally 50% genetically
Christian. McCaffrey is a bad prospect
there. Well, I recently have taken an L
on 50% genetically of a of a of a prospect.
So not I don't know, I don't know if I'm going to say that
one in in my opinion, my opinion based on the way his college
career went out. He was recruited as a
quarterback to Nebraska. He was a very bad quarterback.
He played pretty well, like six months after changing positions
and then played quite well his final season at Rice.
And I mean, like, not that I am a scout or anything.
He looked all right to me. I mean, he didn't look he didn't
look like the next Cooper Cup or anything like that or like I
think he's I think he's fine. I think he.
The play, the play all along has been Hunter Renfro, who was also
a horrible prospect. But Hunter Renfro was, he was
part of that Clemson team. He he like.
Runs good routes he runs. Good routes like, yeah, he
these, these like undersized slot receiver guys who run good
routes, kind of heady players or whatever.
Like sometimes they just have really bad I feel.
Like you're I feel like you're under you're underselling the
the athleticism is the major difference between him and
Hunter Renfro though. Like Luke McCaffrey is like
legitimately like a 9.9 Ras guy. Like, yeah, I don't know, I
guess I guess I just see a little bit more obviously, like
I see a little bit more yak potential in.
Luke well compare him, compare him to his other brother Max,
who was not a good Ras guy, who was the the other McCaffrey who
who was not a good Ras guy. He he got a chance to play for
the 49ers and was bad. Well, hang on, because Luke is
50% him too. I already said we drafted that.
I do. I want to highlight Betty's
comment viewed through his 23andMe profile.
He's a good prospect. I just that.
Those are analytics. I mean, that's.
That should have made the best Ball Bros video.
This. Somehow he needs to re edit it.
He needs to. Re edit get that in yeah.
I, I have, I've, I've made, I mean, I've got like 15% Luke
McCaffrey and I'm taking more. I, I, I think it's a very good
bet to make. And really what it is is it's a
bet on Daniels and it's also a bet on Cliff, because what does
Cliff want to do? He wants to run the horizontal
raid. He wants to stick Terry Mclaurin
out on the left, have him never move and have him try and beat
corners that are way better than him.
Respectfully to Terry Mclaurin. I know the Ohio State bias that
we have here in the fantasy football community, but I'm
comfortable with this bet on Luke McCaffrey, and if I lose, I
was going to lose anyway. Yeah, I mean, Cliff Kingsbury
looks at Luke McCaffrey and he's he sees non toddler sized
Rondelle Moore and that's that's pretty exciting to him.
Well, you know what? What?
Rhonda Moore is actually kind of the point, I think a little bit.
Cliff Kingsbury loves nothing more than ruining a slot
receiver that we drafted. Andy is a barrel Rondell Moore.
I mean, that's his whole deal. Isabella's actually a very good
comp where the production profile was very weird and back
weighted, although obviously more athletic than Isabella.
That's that's a pretty good comp to how he basically just ends up
not running enough routes. Yeah, My concern with McCaffrey
is kind of based on like his whole, his whole thing is that
he should, you know, if he's the guy who we want him to be, which
is this dude who, you know, it's just like kind of able to get
open and plays exclusively out of the slot.
I, I was hoping he would get that role locked down, that he
would like emerge. This is a team that just traded
Johan Dotson. But it doesn't seem like it's
because McCaffrey forced that issue.
They're just like this dude, isn't it?
He's not our #2. I guess, yeah, Go ahead, Sam.
Yeah, I was just going to say I have, I have heard some
rumblings that part of the reason of the Dotson trade is
they felt good about McCaffrey and Zaki.
So I don't know, I think that like, it has to be at least part
of it. They took a slot wide receiver
in the third round. They tried out Dawson at slot
wide receiver and then traded him.
Like, I don't know, I do agree the preseason usage, you can't
kind of talk around that. He certainly was buried if you
just look at the depth chart there.
But I feel like that has to be at least part of the reason they
trade Dawson, right? Like I don't Crowder stuff.
I mean that that seems crazy to me though.
Yeah, I don't know that it does have to be because this is a new
coaching staff. You know, they come in and they
take a look at this guy and they're like, and you know,
Datsun was a very overdrafted prospect and he had a pretty
inefficient rookie season outside of touchdowns, and then
he bombs in his second season. So it's not like it shouldn't be
shocking. That a coaching staff comes in
and doesn't think he's good. And it didn't seem like as this
was happening that it really was related to McCaffrey.
Their stance on McCaffrey is basically that he exists.
I have 11% McCaffrey and I haven't drafted him in like 3
weeks. So I was pretty in.
This is more me kind of saying like if I'm going to get talked
back into McCaffrey, I want to like make sure we're not just
kind of like we were excited about him earlier and this, this
definitely has opened up additional targets, but it has
it has not been a great office. If I could bud my own bags here,
which I will do, I will be fair and balanced.
These are some of the wide receivers who are getting routes
over Rondale more in Arizona. What Cliff was his coach?
Antoine Wesley, Andre Bacalia, Zac Pascal.
There was there was a couple other ones who were just like
really bad Robbie chosen Pharaoh Cooper, like they, they were
actively trying to to to find ways to not give Rondale full
routes, which would mean just because we think Olomedy
Zacchaeus is a zero and he will receive no targets like Olomedy
Zacchaeus could could run every route and probably not be
fantasy relevant. But but you know, kind of it's
the same. It's the sacrificial X wide
receiver take and and maybe it maybe that's what ends up
happening. Luke just loses snaps to any.
I just have yeah, I just have a really hard time believing that
you you tell me it's it's a Week 8.
And McCaffrey, I mean, again, there's three wide receivers on
the field and Cliff system. Mclaurin's guaranteed one of
them. And he can't beat out two out of
three of Diane Brown, all the media, Zacchaeus and Jameson
Kraut. Like to me, I agree with your
original take, Davis, that it it feels like what week one brain
to me. Like I'm not really worried
about the role over the second-half of the season.
I think he's going to get a chance.
Now, maybe he's just so bad and can't do it.
Sure. But I think this is like, I
don't know. We talked about the Chargers
being the most wide up in depth chart in the NFL at wide
receiver. I think this commander's team
now without Datsun I mean. It is and they don't even have
like I was looking at their dev strap being like maybe they have
some prospect I forgot about from three years ago who's like
vaguely interesting and they. Don't.
Yeah. Diane Brown.
Yeah. He doesn't really count.
Diane Brown I didn't like as a prospect, I didn't like as an
NFL. Like I just think he's ass.
He's been terrible. He's been terrible.
I, you guys, I'm back in. I, I, I think your, your
arguments are stronger than mine.
We we should probably just throw out.
I mean, I was actually looking he didn't play in the final pre
season game either. So maybe quietly he has
solidified the role. And to your point about week one
brain, we don't need him to have that role out of the gate.
We just need him to earn it down the stretch.
And this competition is so weak that, yeah, we should, we should
be back. In the the chat is maybe
rightfully pointing out that if ertz is healthy, maybe Senate or
actually maybe Senate plays in line because he's such a good
blocker and ertz is actually kind of the primary slot guy to
start the year. It's totally possible.
I think ertz is very draftable now, especially if you're doing.
Well, some of us, some of us have been.
Drafting a. Whole lot trying to trying to
some of us have been trying to escape the the specter of Zach
Ertz in their portfolio of the entire time.
I mean, I've got, I got AI got, if you include my big board
stuff, I've got to be like higher on Zach Ertz than Julie
Ertz, honestly. Yeah, yeah.
I think, I don't know, I mean, I'm not doing it a lot, but
there's there's certain builds where you're like, I really
could use this guy, you know, producing in the early part of
the season. How about a Brock Bauers team?
How about ertz and Bauers? Yeah.
Yeah, that's the last thing I'll say, Robert.
Woods that's a good, that's a good comp.
Yeah, last thing I'll say on McCaffrey, he did have rushing
production in college. I think that's a little bit of
underrated part of his profile, both when he was a quarterback
at Nebraska, he had rushing production and then even as a
wide receiver at Rice, he had over 100 rushing yards both of
his years as a receiver there. So again, that's just like
another if you get the Jayden Reed like scammy, you know,
rush, you know, rushing touchdown, whatever, that can be
really helpful as an 18th round pick as well.
Let's move on here to Kamani Vidal.
I know we talked about him last week, but to me he he stands out
as one of the best picks at his new price of 186, which was down
from, you know, the one 50s earlier in the offseason.
Curious, Pat, where you guys stand on him now with a little
bit more certainty that he's going to make the roster,
although I guess that's not 100% official yet.
Yeah, we were pretty in on Vidal one point.
Like it's been a weird offseason because I was out at, you know,
the one 60s price and then I got in around there and then in the
one 50s I was in and then we got that he might not make the
roster and we're just like not taking this dude.
He felt a ton. Now we're back in.
I am taking him. He's going like in the 15th,
16th now. And I think I think it's OK.
I mean, it's a big swing. It's a low floor, really low
floor bet. But you know, Gus Edwards and
Dobbins coming off an Achilles like the as long as he's got
getting a chance to be the third back in that rotation, I think
he really could earn pretty significant volume of the course
the season. And we know they want to run the
ball a lot. So yeah, I think, you know,
he'll probably steam back up all the way to the One 50s again.
And that's I'm all the way back in.
Yeah, I'm all the way in. I just took him in the 14th
round on one. I'm not, you know, I'm also
taking Dobbins too. I think you can take them
together. You can take them together for
sure. You do the you do the Galaxy
brain. Dobbins starts for the first
eight weeks, suffers another catastrophic lower body injury,
and then Bydell closes the season.
You know, Patterson I think is like just active for special
teams. Sounds like he's probably going
to make the roster and they're probably going to keep 4 guys.
But Videl, Videl is actually like a great answer for like
something that Sean talks about a lot is like who's the sort of
story of the season style guys. And you could totally tell me
Chargers win 10 games. They're super like, they're
super efficient running the ball and Videl scores like 19.1 half
PPR points in the back half of the season.
Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot of sense to me.
And yeah, I I have this take on Twitter that people hated, which
happens with a lot of my tweets. But.
You know. Why is that?
What's? What's going on here?
But I, I compared him to Jalen Wright, of which there's like a
40 pick ADP gap. They're both like pretty clearly
depth chart wise, you know, the RB3 on their teams.
Actually, Jalen Wright star before behind Jeff Wilson, but
no one wants to talk about that, you know, but one of them has a
very clear and obvious chance to emerge as a starter without
injuries in front of them. And the other, like even the
biggest Jalen Wright Galaxy brainers, I don't think are
saying he's going to steal the job from Devin a chain if a
chain's healthy. So to me, that's just like, and
I don't even think Wright is a is a bad pick anymore.
I've kind of come around on that.
But I think Kamani Vidal should be going way higher than 180 at
this point. Like give me him over Chuba
Hubbard, give me him over Ray Davis, Braylon Allen.
I get those other guys are maybe more clearly RB2 on their teams,
but they're behind much more entrenched starters.
This just feels like, you know, unless we get the news tomorrow
that he hasn't made the Dame, in which case that'd be very bad
for me as long as he makes a team.
This seems like such a home run that on uncertainty, yeah, yeah,
my chips are all in on on the Vidal.
Thing we are, we are so here for best ball season, you know, 10
days away from the start of the season, we're like, if this guy
is out on the active roster, he is just an absolute jam.
And that that's the problem is that we still don't have that.
Well, we're going to know in 24 hours.
We're. Going to know in 24 hours, yeah.
And I'm drafting like he's going to be.
I'm drafting doesn't. Make me more excited for sure.
Yeah, I'm drafting. I'm drafting like it's it's
done. And what by the way, when it is
done, it's going to turn into how guys start treating these
zero RB guys in the main event Pat where it's like Kalani Videl
is going to go in the ninth round in like the last
Basketball mania draft that happens or whatever.
Yeah, we haven't really had one of those guys like a Damien
Pierce that just rises and rises and rises, but you know.
It's been it's been Chase Brown. And the only thing that has kept
it in touch is that the beats will be like, it's all Chase
Brown, it's all. And then the next day another
beat will be like Zach Moss looks pretty good.
Like if, if, if the Beats had gone really hard on Chase Brown
as the clear starter, he would have gotten up to the like the
that range in the seventh round, like the James Conner nogiaries
range. Yeah.
Yeah, that's true. Yeah.
Last thing I'll say on Vidal, the the the tape numbers,
watching the preseason, we're just talking about how the
Chargers offensive line was just absolutely bullying defenders
out there. I mean, Joe Alt, JC Latham, Will
Will Disley as a blocking tight end is like one of the best
blocking tight ends in the league like this.
I'm really excited for this Chargers offense overall
compared to market. Like again, people on Twitter
were saying, oh, it's because, you know, one guy's in the
Dolphins and one guy's in the Chargers.
Like the Chargers are going to suck this year.
I don't think the Chargers are going to suck this year.
Like Greg, Greg Roman can scheme up a hell of a rushing offense
with the talent they have there. I think this is going to be an
exciting place. Harbaugh teams always win.
They always win. It's.
Just, it's just a, it's just a, it's just a fact.
And the other thing is, I, I do, I also want this take to like
officially be on the record, which is that there's just this
idea that the Chargers are going to be this insanely plotting run
heavy team and they're going to tilt more run heavy than we want
because of Roman. I don't think that's a Harbaugh
thing. Harbaugh wants to win games.
And I think Harbaugh and even Roman to some extent are smart
enough to like look at their team and be like, Herbert is a
Ferrari and you don't leave the Ferrari in the garage like
they're going to have some cool stuff for him to do.
And I mean, obviously I could eat all these words if like the
foot injury is a bigger deal. And if the wide receivers like,
if this is like the the situation I always think of is
Brady at the end of his career with the Patriots, where like he
just looked everything looked so difficult for him or Rodgers the
last year in Green Bay, we're like, sure, they were winning
games, but it was just a brutal slog.
And maybe that could happen if the wide receivers are really
that bad. But like any kind of breakout
from the pass catchers and I, I think the offense could be like
the 11th best offense in the NFL, even though the ADP
suggests they will not be at all.
Yeah, I've been drafting a bunch of Herbert.
I mean, part of it is that I do take so much Drake May and that
helps me get on to that stack. But I I have a bunch of
Mcconkey, I have a bunch of Herbert.
I'm drafting these running backs.
I just think like what one of the things that I try to think
through is when we get to the end of the season, what are we
going to like, regret? What are we going to have like
trouble defending to ourselves? And one of the things that just
kind of I keep coming back to is like we are going to have
trouble defending to ourselves that a top five real life
quarterback was getting drafted this late.
Exactly. That's literally exactly it.
Yeah. It's just, yeah, I, I'm 100%
with you on that. It's we're double, triple,
quadruple. Counting this, a a gravity
quarterback who might run a little bit more and.
They get a little bit more behind an elite offensive line.
Like the weapons aren't great, but like, I don't know, like
didn't we like we just saw it with Mahomes?
You know, you can you can get you can get there even without
weapons. You know it's possible.
Well, Mahomes didn't. The thing is, Mahomes was a bad
pick in fantasy last year. He wouldn't have been in the
14th round at 1:40 or whatever. He wouldn't have been like, you
know, he, I guess 13th round, but you know, whatever.
Yeah. I mean, I think we've, we have
more than priced in this Herbert stuff.
Like it's, it's kind of crazy. I guess he goes 12th round by
the way. Yeah, moving on here to Jalen
Tolbert. He's the guy we touched on early
in the offseason. Haven't shed through him much
recently. He's been kind of steadily
rising. He's now up to 166 in ADP from
basically being an 18th round flyer just a month ago.
Start with you, Davis. Are you interested at all at
Jalen Tolbert, who by the reports seems to have locked
down the Cowboys wide receiver three job?
Yeah, I'm taking him in the one 40s.
I don't care. He's going to.
He's going to get more targets than Brandon Cooks.
That there are two things here. The first one being anything I
read by Sean. I just don't have the ability to
not be swayed by it. Like I don't know.
It's just something about the way he writes.
And he wrote this like long diatribe for Jalen Tolbert, like
a lot like like a 7000 word article about Jalen Tolbert.
But the the database arguments were convincing to basically say
this profile a player is not dead the way you might think.
A a third year player like this might be dead.
Like there are guys in this cohort who have done well.
But the more important thing to me was that Dak seems very
excited about Jalen Tolbert that that they worked out together
all offseason together. Tolbert basically lives in Dak's
neighborhood and would just come out and and Dak has this very
cool practice field installed in his backyard.
And Dak was basically like, you know, every offseason I work
with a guy and that guy has a good year.
Last year it was last year it was Lamb.
The year before it was Dalton Schultz.
He also mentioned Jalen Brooks, which maybe is a reason to not
be as convinced by this. But it worked on me, so I am.
I am taking a lot of Jalen Fulbert.
Yeah, I just haven't been able to get on board.
He just hasn't been good. He's been bad.
He's been. Really bad.
And you know, it's one thing to say, hey, this guy.
Yeah, seriously, it's one thing if we're going like, hey man,
like this guy just has had an incredible offseason and people
still just aren't drafting him, which is what happened, you
know, with Puka last year. Like he was just available in
the late rounds the whole the whole summer.
That's, you know, you got to get on board with that type of
thing. But as the price rises, I think
we should be more skeptical of of what we're really getting
ourselves into. And I just flash once at the NFL
level if I'm going to, if I'm going to take you, you know, in
the top 170. Like, I don't know, he's not
completely free anymore. And there's guys in that range
that I, that I like. So I I've I really haven't
taken. Him on time.
Who do you like? Who do you like in the one 60s
that you are? OK, well, that's fair.
Not non derogatory. Non derogatory.
That's fair. I mean, I do like, you know,
let's like take, that's where I take, OK, Hunter, Henry, Demario
Douglas, Like that's where I do. So I do.
Basically, if you're not a Patriots player, pass 160.
That's not taking. You.
Key key point here. This is also I I'm trying to
embrace vibes based drafting a little bit more this year, like
a void situation where the vibes are really bad and try and be
ahead of situations where the vibes are good and the vibes on
Tolbert have been all like they're.
Good they're. Good panic that you get.
I mean, you guys do a lot of these shows on YouTube.
What it what always happens when you start talking about the
Cowboys in the comments? It's always Dak sucks.
They're going to crater. They have the worst running
backs in the NFL. They're going to be they're
going to be awful. They're going to finish last in
the NFC East. No one involved in the Cowboy
situation seems to feel that pressed Dak doesn't feel that
pressed. They get the deal done with CD.
It's like no one's really seeming scared for their job.
So it's like pretty much, yeah, we're going to win eleven games
and we're going to be fine. And that seems pretty good for
Jalen Tolbert for me is that is that they understand this is
their skill position room. They're by the way, and every
backup for him was playing like deep in the like Ryan Flournoy
is catching passes from Trey Lance in the third quarter of
pre season games. I'm not saying like Jalen
Tolbert is not like my favorite pick on the board or anything,
but I I like I I think he is a good pick and I am taking him
even at this increased cost. The context around him getting
on the field last year is still concerning to me.
Like, yeah, he couldn't pass Michael Gallup.
He got, he got to about 50% rap participation and Gallup got
down to about 50%. And then Gallup is off the team
and retires. Retires.
Like, come on. Like that, like the and you
know, like I don't think Cooks is dead as as it goes.
You know, if we're talking about Kenny be the number three on the
team and assuming Ferguson could be the number 2, which I think
he can. And you know, that's obviously
how we're drafting it. So that's that's part of it too.
Like I don't like cooks at any at all.
At all. That's so really to me, it is so
much about being like, I don't want to take Brandon Cooks and
any like I think Brandon Cooks might be the next Cowboys wide
receiver to retire. And in the offseason, you know,
I, I'll say this is the most damning thing I can imagine for
Jalen Tolbert. The Dallas Cowboys lose a
playoff game 48 to 32. Dak Prescott attempts 60 passes.
Jalen Tolbert goes 000. It's that line.
So that right there I mean I that's.
Rough, man, that's really, really rough.
Really bad. Like how?
How many times did he work out with Dak in the offseason?
Was it every day? If he skipped a day, I think I'm
out. Yeah, I, I think I'm, I'm
somewhat in the middle of you guys.
I'm closer to Pat than to Davis on the Tolbert fade, but yeah, I
feel like I'm going to. Be I I might have just anti
Tolbert and myself. Yeah, I just feel like I'm going
to be wrong about one of these Cowboys because I'm obviously
taking CD when I have a chance to.
I'm not taking cooks, I'm not taking Tolbert, I'm not taking
stabs on any of the flouronoid Brooks Turpin guys.
And like, mathematically that has to be wrong.
There's so much volume here. I don't know, though.
It just feels like to me like. It doesn't have to be wrong
because it could be. It could be classic Chiefs, It
could be it could be two guys get all the production.
Rico Dowdell has a good season and a bunch of dudes, like 5
dudes catch 20 passes that could that that you.
You tell me Flournoy, Jalen Cropper, Jalen Tolbert, Luke
Schoonmacher and Zeke can't all catch 20 passes like that.
That can now. The the Jalen Cropper guy, did
you make that up or is that a real?
No, that's real. There's there's Jalen Cropper,
Jalen Brooks and Jalen Tolbert. Yeah, Brooks mattering like even
a tiny, tiny bit immediately makes, you know, all of these
guys way thinner. Turpin's probably like a schemed
like like the the. He's he's he's Hardman in this
equation. Yeah, he's Hardman or Tony.
Yeah, it has made me more excited.
The more I think about it, the more I think I'm in on the Jake
Ferguson breakout bet again. He basically.
Had. Yeah, he basically had the same
stats as Dalton Kincaid last year, actually.
Like slightly better than Kincaid and some things.
And I feel like you're getting zero of the breakout.
Like everyone just sees him as like a boring veteran, but he's
what, 25 years? He's like the same age as
Kincaid. And anyways, I just think the
Ferguson breakout thing is like a little.
Underpriced. Maybe he's the guy that takes.
It I I got talked at him. I got bullied early in the
offseason. Jacob Sanderson, How much?
This is the that's the problem is I don't want to take it.
Yeah, I just take, I've been taking both like I I get a lot
of Bowers, so I'm not worried if I.
Occasionally if if you get the if you do the CD at the 1-2
turn, you can do Dak Ferguson at 8-9 which is nice.
Yeah, let's move on here to last riser.
We have to talk about Jordan Whittington.
He's up six spots purely because Pukunakua existed last year and
DeMarcus Robinson is down seven spots.
I'm, I'm actually more bullish on Whittington than that, but
I'll give you the. Floor.
We saw it, yeah. I'll give you the floor, Davis.
This this is so funny though if if Jordan Whittington was on
literally any other team. Any of the other 31 NFL teams he
doesn't he like does not get drafted like.
Yeah, it's a little bit true. It's no, it's, it's 100% true.
People love to pattern match. Baseball drafters love to
pattern match. That's like it's like kind of
what we and I mean it does serve us well obviously, but.
The pattern's actually in the matching.
Some of the some of the pattern matching absolutely matters.
So I'm not even I, I am not like I think I have only taken
Whittington when I have Stafford or or a Cardinals.
Thing. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I don't think he's like he's not like I prefer like
Malik Washington and round 18 like agnostic to these spots
because I think Malik Washington has legit puka outs, whereas I
don't like Whittington is was just not a good.
Prospect I get. I mean, yeah, I would.
I think they're pretty, pretty comparable in that they're both.
There's not that many, there's not that much target
competition. I'm still very angry at myself
for not being all in on puka last year, because sure, in
addition to everything else, like he just was set up to score
points right out of the game. Well, you shouldn't be, you
shouldn't be as mad as I am because I had 25% of 2 two out.
Well, when that that those all could have been puka teams.
I cost myself. I cost myself $3,000,000.
I was taking 22 as well. Yeah, I.
Switched to puka over 22 but it was like way too late.
It was like the last two weeks or something, but but I think he
was rested even before that so so it was just that was just
amazing. The the key point here though,
is just that the the the market is obviously admitting that they
were so wrong to chase Robinson up to begin with.
And it's like all we needed is 1/5 year prospect who couldn't
stay healthy for more than three games in a row at the University
of Texas. Austin is is immediately making
us worried about DeMarcus Robinson.
Well, if we're pattern matching last year's rookie wide receiver
results, I think it's maybe some more similar to like Tank Dell,
you know, we're we're. And and Robinson is the woods
Metchy. Robinson's our woods are Metchy.
Yeah. Like, it's not that there's just
like so many targets available. You're you're hoping the offense
is really, really good. And you know, he's he's a part
of that. So I don't know.
I am taking a little bit of them correlated with Stafford.
He hadn't been drafted early in like at all in early drafts.
So in basketball mania, I do think he's a little bit of a
leveraged play, not like an amazing pick, but I think, you
know, don't feel bad if you're mixing him in.
Yeah, I think he's totally fine. I don't think Whittington is a
bad pick. I don't think he's a good pick.
The only thing I'm certain of is that DeMarcus Robinson is a bad
pick. I am pretty certain of that too.
I do want to get to a little bit of the preseason stuff and we'll
get back to Whittington here. Kevin Cole did some great
research last year. He looked into pre season
metrics across all positions and found that pre season target
earning, which he looked at targets per route to measure
this. He showed that that did have
signal for rookie wide receivers.
You know, not a huge signal, but any type of signal in fantasy
football is something we should pay it, pay attention to.
I wanted to look into this year's rookie class for targets
for route run. Again, we have like.
Wow, this you should tweet this. This is this is this is this is
very this is good. This is cool shit.
Yeah, this. Yeah, I'll definitely do some
engagement farming here, but I separated this on the right
hand. Small sample and tiny sample.
Yeah, that's really. Good.
Yeah, small sample and tiny sample.
So. So the guys on the left in like
the lighter red and lighter green, these are like minuscule
samples, so. Well, they, they only played,
these guys only played with the starters, so that we're talking
about like 20 snaps or something.
Exactly. So like Xavier Leget earning 1
target on 10 routes, it's hard to say that matters that much.
But I think once you get to, you know, Jordan Whittington, he
leads the entire rookie class in targets for route run.
In the preseason he had like a game and a half's worth of
routes and had a 37% targets for route run like that.
That's a data point that I think we can actually put some weight
into. And if you watch the games as
well, he looked pretty good. But yeah, other guys that pop
here, McMillan and were the on smaller samples look pretty
good. Adonai Mitchell also does.
And then, yeah, Casey Washington.
Someone, someone do the. That's pretty good here.
Someone do the yelling swan meme with small sample target
dominators for Casey Washington and then ask for how many how
many receptions He got on those because he got targeted.
He got targeted. I, I've been following the Casey
Washington stuff very closely because the Falcons beat writer
invoked the name of Puka Nakua in his, like, training camp
report. So I was like, is there anything
going on here? And I watched him play and I
came away thinking, no, there's, there's nothing.
Yeah, his his like yards for his targets for that one is like 30%
and his yards for that one is like .5 or something.
It's like it's. That that top left thing though
is so it's like what we already believe we're like, yeah, those
four players are just good and can play, so that makes sense.
The Mitchell, I mean this again, it's like maybe a game's worth
of routes for Mitchell. Like 25 routes is like well.
The pencil. The pencil pushers, man.
Yeah. Pencil pushers are gonna are
gonna eat it on AD Mitchell the same way they ate it on Pickens.
I'm I'm just leaving every draft with AD Mitchell now.
As a pencil pusher. I know, I know.
You've got to push back. On pen in.
No, I'm just in. I'm in on Mitchell.
Well, you are. You're not a full pencil pusher.
You, you know ball. You know, ball.
Well, I appreciate that, but I do push some pencils around,
yeah. But yeah, and any other guys you
want to talk about here? The Troy Franklin thing, That's
the one guy that's like. Franklin.
Yikes. Burton It's not ideal, is it?
Here's our buddy Luke McCaffrey. That's not great.
Well, Luke, Luke McCaffrey, Luke McCaffrey.
It's like, I'm not, I'm not sweating that, but.
You don't got to earn the targets when you're throwing
them. Well, Luke, yeah, exactly.
You don't have to. You don't have to earn the
targets when you're throwing them.
And he does have. Let me make sure I'm not lying
here. OK, 1.5 yards per hour run.
Not as good as I thought it was, but.
Not, I think the name here is Brendan Rice to just be like,
what is going on there? Because he did.
He kept earning targets. And it was just like, I guess I
didn't watch all the Chargers games, so I would need someone
else to inform me. But how do you rack up like 32
preseason targets? And I've like, I'll catch Jerry
Rice. His brother was literally
tweeting he deleted him. I went to go find him earlier.
His brother Jerry Rice Junior tweeted them and then deleted
them about like Easton stick, just plain like shit.
Maybe that's maybe that's part of it.
But man, I and maybe Bret, maybe Brendan Rice is just maybe maybe
Brendan Rice is just not good. But I refuse to believe that
personally. I've watched some Brendan Rice
and again, don't, don't nobody should be taking their like film
takes for me. If you're doing that, that's
that's malpractice. But Davis, I'm I'm a little bit
worried about your guy. He he doesn't.
He's not The thing is this, he's not very explosive.
Like he just you could tell. You could tell he kind of just
has like learned to play wide receiver without like
necessarily having the physical gifts, if that makes sense.
Like, he, he clearly knows what he's doing, but his brain is
like a step ahead of his body, if that makes sense, Which, you
know, so it's kind of the reverse of what you want, you'd
actually want a rookie wide receiver to be.
It is very like year three-year 4, you know, kind of ends up in
a spot where like, oh, Brendan Rice is like starting, but like,
he's not really bringing that much to the table.
Jayla Naylor looks like it's like year three, maybe he ends
up being the wide receiver. 3:00 And you're like, oh, maybe we.
Right. Yeah, he's Josh Reynolds, E.
Jerry Rice, man, why couldn't you give us another great NFL
player? Wasn't enough.
His best ever career wasn't enough.
Sure, yeah, as as the chat is pointing out, Brendan Rice
caught 45 passes as Caleb Williams, wide receiver, won in
college. Yeah, that's what I keep going
back to 12 touchdowns though, I guess.
But it's just, it's so concerning that he wasn't.
Brendan Rice plays like a white guy.
Jalen Tolbert Ish, you might say.
Yeah. Yeah.
And yeah. So for the big dog draft Crane,
I'd say feel free to join that whenever we're getting to the
end of our topics here. Last thing I wanted to talk
about today. Slow draft picks before I time
out. OK, go ahead and do that.
Marshawn Lloyd was the other faller I wanted to talk about
here. He's down 11 spots to 175.
He has a bad combination of both being injured and also kind of
being buried on the depth chart as a rookie.
I think people are worried about, you know, is this a
Kendra Miller Tank Bigsby situation from last year, you
know, running back to third round draft capital who didn't
really ever pan out during the rookie years.
Start with you, Davis. Have you been buying the dip on
Marshawn Lloyd? Now undraftable for me right now
part. Now part of that is because if
if Lloyd is the guy you need, like I will have had him on a
representative sample of teams that I won't feel bad about.
And you could say it's very weak one brain and like, oh, a chain
was hurt in the preseason. A chain was playing in the the
fourth quarter preseason games. If you liked him as a prospect,
you should like him now all that stuff.
I mean, he's got like the fumble problems he never had.
I believe it was what he never topped.
I'm going to get the number wrong like 164 carries in
college or something. The fact that they moved AJ
Dillon, we just have a conclusive NFL sample of being
bad ahead of him in the packing order.
I mean, it's not it's not anything.
It's not anything about Dylan because Dylan now is maybe not
going to play with a Stinger, but Emmanuel Wilson has been
awesome in the preseason and they've kept him around.
I wonder like if Emmanuel Wilson is ahead of him to start the
year. There's speculation that he
might start the year on the IR. It's like I just at this like,
sure, maybe if Lloyd gets to the 18th round or whatever, but like
I'm, I'm, I'm clicking Videl, you know, whatever.
It's like I this is a situation I don't really have the tools to
handle. I think maybe.
Pat, what are your thoughts on Lloyd at 175?
Yeah, it does seem bad and I was kind of buying the dip a little
bit, but then it's you're starting to worry about maybe
like a full kind of like red shirt type of season being in
play. And I've been drafting him all
summer. So like what?
What dip am I really getting? Like, it's not like he was ever
super expensive, you know? So it's like, hey, remember when
you spent $3 on this guy? Now you can spend $1.00 on this
guy. The the two V2 is like you took,
it's like Marshawn Lloyd and Brendan Rice versus DJ Shark and
Carson Steele. Now you know, it's, it's like,
it's like, it's totally inconsequential.
Yeah. So like, I don't know that I
need to I'm like 8% on Lloyd and if I finish it 5 or 6% that
seems pretty good. So I don't know.
I I guess I'm I don't think I'm buying this dip.
I'm I'm getting nervous. In fact, I've taken a little bit
more Josh Jacobs recently. You know, it feels a little weak
one brainy, I guess, but you know, if he just he is kind of
dodged the committee bullet, you know, potentially.
He really has. I think especially for the high
value touches, I have a hard time believe believing that he's
losing, you know, red zone and pass catching work.
I yeah, Jacobs is the guy I have a huge stand on, but I've
definitely been taking him a bit more agree with you there, Pat.
I think again with Josh Jacobs, we have this bias against him.
But two year if if he's just the guy he was two years ago.
I get you have to throw out last year's data which.
You have to throw it out all the way like it was horrific.
Yeah, but there are some alibis with, you know, the holdout
stuff. You know, Jonathan Taylor was
pretty some. Alibis.
I love. I love the idea of alibis.
Why did why did you suck and why should I not care?
I need alibi. Where was your talent when you
were sucking? You need a talent alibi.
Well, I was. Amir White just good in every
metric and you were bad in every metric on the same team.
Just give me the reasons why. What if this is either Gretch?
Either Gretch or Sean brought this up.
But what if the story of the season is the Packers just
decide running isn't working and Jordan Love throws the ball 612
times and every Packers wide receiver gets there at cost and
Jacobs doesn't? You guys thought about that?
Because I've thought about it that.
Would work out better for the way I've played.
It that would that would, that would work out for me, I would.
So I heard that and I immediately was like, that's
absolutely what's going to happen.
But you know, what's so funny about this stuff is like every
other example we've had in the past couple weeks of like, oh,
this guy's going way down, like way down, and his teammate is
going way up. It's like, oh, Marshawn Lloyd is
going way down. And underage drafters are like,
we don't care at all. We still hate Josh Jacobs.
We're not touching him. You're right, like it's and
it's, it's gross. Like I just have such a tough
time clicking Josh Jacobs. Like the OK, he he had the one
amazing season. I wasn't really drafting him
then his price goes up like a ton.
I drafted him some if he. Started out where Kenneth Walker
goes then I could be into it. I could be into 6th around Josh
Jacobs like Oh yeah, like I but but taking him over you right
now you have to take him over worthy both the bears wide
receivers sometimes Mclaurin and then the real problem is he goes
in the middle of all the tight ends.
So he goes McBride, Andrews, Kincaid, Kittle, and it's like,
I just what do you win when you win?
I'd also rather bet on James Cook.
Still, I'd still rather have James Cook that all season is
broken his way. He's been, he's been talked up
as you know, getting a lot more usage as just kind of a clear
lead running back. I think the, the way you win
with Cook and and Jacobs in that range is if like there's
functionally 0 difference between Dalton Kincaid and Jake
Ferguson and David and Joku and you just pass on the tight ends
there. And that that's that's how I've
been playing that two by two. Because I don't think it's crazy
that the Jacobs slash Cook plus in Joku slash Bowers two by two
beats the Kincaid plus Najee Harris or whatever, right?
Like I see myself coming out almost better there in some ways
so. I think in a lot of outcomes you
do, you know, because Kincaid is a breakout bet.
If he does what he did last year, we lose.
Yeah. We lose that.
That is not enough. Now he could definitely break
out. I mean, I, I think that's very
realistic. But yeah, there's plenty of
scenarios where you're happy that you didn't take the the
early round side in. I I would say like the other
thing that makes Jacobs difficult isn't just the Najee
Harris group, which is part of the reason that Jacobs was
difficult click. But I just got Joe Mixon in the
7th today. You know, like and Joe Mixon's
been late 6th plenty and he goes early 6th most of the time.
Like I just to take Jacobs in the early 5th, you know,
potentially not get like Rashad whitefalling to the late 6th or
Joe Mixon or Kenneth Walker there.
Like I don't know, he he really is kind of more part of that
group in my mind. But it's always tough because
like we don't win based on like the archetype.
We win based on the specific players and and I don't want to
have like 0 Jacobs with kind of breaking his way.
I agree. I I just think again, I think
the upside case like, come on, Josh Jacobs was the RB one in
fantasy on Josh McDaniels, Derek Carr, Jared Stidham, Raiders,
like he can't be really good on the map, the floor Packers when
he's still 25 years old. I just, I see the floor on
Jacobs for sure. I see it being an ugly committee
and he's not that good. But I think people are saying
there's not like a ceiling. There are a bit wrong, but we'll
see on Jacobs. Pat, how are we doing on this
big dog? We saw four more left.
I jumped in. I jumped in like 6 minutes ago.
OK, I'll. We've gone down from I think
7:00 to 4:00. I'll OK let me send a tweet.
Yeah, I was gonna repost something as well.
Yeah, any I guess Another guy we can talk about here on the list
of followers. Ricky Pearsall has been a guy
I'm struggling with. I want to blindly bet on the
draft capital, but almost similar to Lloyd, he's buried on
the depth chart. He's injured, hasn't practiced
much at all. I I I'm honestly not sure what
the sharp way to play Ricky Piersall is.
Crane, what are what are your thoughts at 160 ADP?
We actually lowered him today 'cause I 'cause like, I wasn't
really drafting him as much as, you know, I, I think in some
ways you want to scoop this because the first round wide
receiver, you don't have like, the same concerns about him just
being buried on the depth chart the way, you know, some of these
other rookies are now at the same time, like, it is getting
more difficult to see how he gets on the field.
And so, yeah, I what I tend to do is the lower stakes it is,
the more likely I am to draft Pearsall some like bigger
fields. You know, I'm I'm more into it
with the bigger field with hang on, let me make sure that's
actually, yeah, I'm more into it.
The bigger the field size is and the lower the stakes are like in
big dogs or I'm like, OK, I just got to get just got to get to
the to the playoffs. Is how much is Pierce all going
to help me? I'm kind of like, I don't, I
don't know if I want to risk $500 that he somehow finds a way
to see the field. Yeah, that that makes sense.
To me feels like the ultimate 4% exposure blanket, whereas like
with Leget, I went from being all the way out in Leget total 0
pointer, no interest to being like, well, I don't, I mean he's
just going to be on the field. Week 1 snap one, he's on the
field and if Leget can play then I'll get paid off.
Whereas like Ricky Pearsall could play, but we might not
even know like Ricky Pearsall might be amazing and we we
literally, we literally might not even know.
And like Jawan Jennings is going to play ahead of him.
Kyle Youscheck is going to like who plays more snaps this year,
Kyle Youscheck or Ricky Pearsall?
And why is it? Why is?
It Why is it Ricky? Or why is it Kyle?
Youscheck yeah, yeah, All right. So we we're out of the 8 like we
are. We are flying here, OK.
And. Yeah, Just a reminder for people
on this format, it's a $500 buy in much smaller field obviously
than basketball mania. I think it's what is it 2 out of
12 advance and then like one out of four, one out of four, like
20 person final. It's something like that.
I. Think it's even smaller, there
might be 10. Person final let me get those
numbers right. It's a It is.
It is a ten person final. Yeah, it's two out of 12, one
out of six, one out of 610 seat final.
We're on the clock. I just got Bijon here.
Yeah, pretty, pretty clearly for me.
What do you guys think? I think yeah, although it would
have been, would have been nice if Matt Porter was not logged
in. Would have been nice if his
default rank. It would be nice if he was a big
running back bro. I tend in the big dog.
I actually tend to go receiver. Oh, receiver first, receiver
more. Yeah, I think.
I think that's safer in this environment.
I think you're more if you're just trying to play advance
rate. I think just making sure that
you have enough receiver firepower is the safest thing
you can do. So I have a slightly different
take, which is that you actually don't get buried by the
avalanche and big dogs. People do not draft like BBM or
puppies in these people. People do the same thing.
They go, you know, they think it's safer to take Jonathan
Taylor. They think it's safer to take
Eric Henry. I've done, I've done six of them
and I only got buried in an avalanche.
Actually, I found the opposite problem.
I actually, I, I just, I was thinking not buried by the
avalanche in the first one, but I didn't, I was remembering
having trouble. And then I remembered the reason
I had trouble is that people were taking like jail and Warren
at like pick 72 or whatever, like they were like gobbling up
the, the running backs. Yeah, I don't have an issue
going Bijan at 8:00, but just generally I do, I do tend to
like, it's not that I think that the risky thing right now is, is
like needing to rely on Jaden Reed in the late 5th or
something. That doesn't feel super safe to
me. So I I tend to like to get early
wide receiver firepower in these.
Yeah, I got. I mean, obviously I've got no
issue with that. I think it's.
Yeah, if if Jefferson or Amanra or whatever was available.
Yeah, I was. Really.
Open. It's much more of a discussion.
I mean, I, I just, yeah. I'm with you, I think and I
think just just scoop and Bijon a little past ADP there makes
sense. I was tempted to go Garrett or
or. Debo.
Any other, yeah, I would be. I'm down with Debo.
Debo would be my guy here unless you want to reach for like a
lava or something. But I like Debo more I think.
We don't have to do the we don't have to do the the Cooper Cup
battle at all. Yeah, we were we were very close
to to no to say I'm calling Pukunaku a fifth round rookie
from BYU. We.
Were I, I would have left the stream if we, if we took Cooper
Cup, that pick 18. I'm just, I don't even want to
talk about it anymore. I'm, I'm too triggered by the
people in my mentions. I just I can't.
He's like rocketing up. Dude, I you it's crazy.
Are you guys admitting that? It's like a little bit fishy now
that he goes like 16 on DraftKings?
Like come on. OK.
Did you? Did you see ship chasing?
I I couldn't talk them into Pukunaku in the second round.
Yeah, I, oh, during that whole draft, Pat, I was like, I, I
really felt for you. Some of those arguments.
I was like, what, what is going on?
Kuka Nakua in the second, like best rookie wide receiver ever.
And we're just like, you know, Kuka.
Stats are stats aren't sticky like yeah, but if we just took
the stats at face value, it'd be like the one O 4.
We can't take them in a second. It's.
Crazy. It's like the Rams are such a
crazy thing for fantasy football.
Kyrene Williams, I believe, I mean, I don't want to, I don't,
he's one of I don't want to say he's the 1st, but he's got to be
one of the only guys to be like a 21 point per game scorer who
is a third round pick. Yeah, that's true.
And, and, and Pukanakua has to be almost one of the only
players to have gained 1600 yards and seven touchdowns to be
like, I don't know, his teammate might be better, his teammate
who had like 800 yards or whatever.
Do do people not remember like the the playoff game Rams
against we just people, people were still saying that, yeah,
like, and that I guess everyone wants to like throw out all of
last year's data because of the injuries.
But like what Cooper Cup had like months to recover from his
injury at that point. And like the stats in that game
were like, I got to pull it up. We just also know that like wide
receiver production does not work in a contingent based way
the same way that running back production was not that targets
can't open up. But it's like Cooper Cups injury
did not create the puker. The puka Nakua season.
Puka Nakua created created the Puka Nakua season by being
awesome, you know, and yeah, maybe now he won't be able to
recreate it because cup will be healthier, but like.
Aren't. Aren't you worried about Colby
Sankinson? Bro no.
I am not, I am not getting a full, I mean, he's been going to
these breakfast guys and he's had a a full offseason now of
breakfast. He only had like abbreviated
breakfast last summer. You know, he didn't even know
about the breakfast right away. Full offseason of breakfast.
I wonder if I wonder if CSU is auto drafting this or if he's
logged in. Yeah, poop in the kua.
I believe either thing. In the playoffs last year,
again, these these are the games that are the most important.
You have to win them to get to the Super Bowl.
Pukunukua 10 targets, 9 receptions, 181 yards and a
touchdown. Also got a rushing attempt in
that game. Cooper Cup.
What do we do here guys? This is this.
Is Dell Dell. We set up, we set up trying to,
we set up trying to push Stroud, in my opinion.
I I think it is Dell as well. Yeah, who are the other or?
Or I, I would also, I would also do Rashi because they're just,
they're the total number of teams here.
I would also do Rashi. And we set up, we set up getting
Pat. I'm good with Rashi.
Let's do it. I don't.
Care if this is where we shouldn't.
Care about the, you know, people who got Rashid Rice in the 10th
round it really. Doesn't it's truly like it's
not? It's just 10 persons.
On your league, yeah. Yeah.
You know it's over for you and Sam is making fun of the old guy
in an argument. Honestly.
True. Wow.
T Higgins, you got saved. Sam.
We were going to have to take T Higgins via your agreement with
the viewers and you got saved. He goes at pick 33.
Wow, I was. I was about ready.
Never seen Sam look happier. Look at him.
Oh man, I had I had a funny a funny bit ready to make a case
for T Higgins in the fourth round, but I guess I won't have
to use that one. Oh, what don't you do it anyway?
I can. I'm sorry I have to be another
big dog. Bullock, I think Rice should go
at pick 32 in the big dog. That's my opinion on where I
think Rice should go on the that's actually unironic.
That's a that's a, that's a non derogatory.
I I really think that's right about where he should go given
the suspension. Like where I landed on Rice is
that he should go right about there in, in all contests right
now with suspension risk, dupe risk, all that stuff.
That's that's where I landed. So flowers, I was really hoping
would get back to us. What what do you guys want to do
here? I mean, we could, we could just
go Mahomes and stack it. We could do Kelsey.
Yeah, Yeah, we do. We do Pat if he gets there.
You would go Pat over Kelsey. Yeah, I think we're actually
going to get it because no one did.
No one did. The Kelsey This guy would have
been the one to do the Kelsey Mahomes thing, and he chose not
to. So you're Pat over Kelsey I?
We should, there should be a tight end that we'll all agree
on in the next round and if not, there will be a wide receiver
that we'll all be able to agree on in the next round.
That's true. And we already have our anchor
running back. We should we should well, let's
make this pick and then we can talk about it.
We could talk about the juju thing just for like a quick
second cuz I've had a little bit of time to think about it and I
have arrived at the scientifically correct
conclusion. Yeah, I think I I.
Think I think Mahomes is like, I guess if we're if we're playing
safety here, Mahomes is definitely on the safety
spectrum way safer than Kelsey. Yeah, I think he's he's probably
the slightly better pick in this format.
Yeah, my thought, my thought on the Juju thing is one, it's like
just like doing himself, like he's been in the building.
So like that just kind of how the NFL works.
Like it's hard to go hungry if you've had a job before.
It's also probably a little bit about Maggie and Reed being
like, get Sky Moore and Canaries, Tony so far away from
my football team that I'd never have to deal with them ever
again. And maybe a smidgen of like,
well, if Rice is suspended, we could just throw Juju out there
for four games. A smidgen of that.
I feel, yeah, I feel like it's mostly like they want one of
these bigger run blocking wide receivers to be able to sub in
for Worthy and Rice when they're running 12 personnel and they
know they're going to run it. And you know, they used to be
MVS, DeMarcus Robinson out there.
They don't want Sky Moore and Tony out there for blocking
snaps. Like those guys are just going
to fuck it up. So Juju is this reliable
veteran. He'll play a very small role if
he's active just. Just he's he's like Alan
Robinson was for. The Steelers.
Yeah, that I couldn't. I couldn't remember what team.
You sure? Allen Robinson on the Steelers.
What did he even get? Like is he guaranteed to even
make? Well, it's it's Jordan Schultz
reporting it, so it also just might not be true, no.
I think it's it's the same as the Ross thing.
It's the offset language in the contract.
So I think he's getting the vet minimum in the path.
That vet minimum. Paying it.
Yeah, yeah, that's, that's what I read is that it's, it's a
similar thing to the Ross situation where basically there
was no incentive for him to take any more money than that
because. Gets it anyway and.
He I'm sure he'd like to win another Super Bowl.
Like winning Super Bowls is fun. Yeah.
Is he going to win a Super Bowl like Melvin Gordon won a Super
Bowl though? Probably.
That's Melvin Gordon. Melvin Gordon looked pretty
goddamn happy at the Super Bowl parade.
So I I think, yeah, I think it all counts.
It's great for Melvin. I, I don't think Juju has any
impact. I mean, this was about as bare
in a depth chart as there was in the league and he couldn't make
it. Paul, I just want to point out,
Juju already has more rings than Jefferson, Lamb and Chase
combined. He already has more Super Bowl
titles than those players. Just.
This is this is a real question that you're faced with
sometimes. You know, you take Patrick
Mahomes, everyone snipes you on all the wide receivers.
Who is your 20th round pick on DraftKings, Watson, Juju, Sky
and. Steel.
OK, but if you OK, imagine a universe where you're forced to
take a wide receiver. I, I think I used to say Tony
and then I watched him play football for one snap this year
and I'm, I'm back to Watson. Yeah, it's Watson for.
Me. Well, actually, no.
It's it's bet the tight ends Noah Gray or Tony.
'S done. Tony's not on that team, right?
Yeah. Yeah, he's getting cut.
I think you take Watson, you hope one of the top three guys
gets gets hurt in the scenario and then he's just MBS and has
one spike week a year. That's all you can really hope
for. All right, so wide receivers, we
got Fat Keenan, we got Jaden Reed, we got Kyle Pitts at tight
ends. OK, I thought, I thought, I
thought there was a smidgen of a hope that worthy might get to
us. I mean, I've been somewhat
Ridley pilled based on the preseason stuff, but I probably,
I can't imagine I'm not going to be able to get you guys there.
So I'm fine with Reed if you want.
Reed just goes. I I would actually say Pitts
maybe, but. We need a receiver bad like we
can't like, I don't know, I I think.
I'm a doonze a doonze I. I was going to say I have a
doonze higher in my rankings but I'm actually fine with Keenan
and and Ridley's like whatever like.
I'm I'm fine. I mean, if a team ever needed
Ridley, it's probably this one. So I'm I'm OK with Ridley.
He's looked he's looked pretty good in the preseason.
This gives me now when people say can't believe you faded
Ridley all offseason, I'll be like, people forget I've got him
on a big dog team, so it'll be fine.
Yeah. I don't know, like the I don't I
don't know how much weight to put in it.
It's so hard. But like the Titans offense just
looked like so confident and it was like all like easy scheme
stuff for Will Levis. And I just feel like Brian
Callahan is really good at this. Like it's.
Been the thesis. It's been the thesis the entire
time, man. Yeah, yeah, I really have not
drafted Ridley. I there was a period right after
the Hopkins injury where it looked pretty bad, where I was
aggressive about getting more. But then the Hopkins injury
didn't look so bad, and I remembered that.
But I really don't have that much faith in Calvin Ridley, so
I stopped drafting him. Yeah.
But yeah, I mean, this team like really needs just a bit like
just volume, you know, him getting fed.
Targets, if we had not already had a stack set up, I would have
said we have to take a bear because I want to have a
quarterback open. Sure, when you already have your
quarterback stuff set up. Yeah, Levis is probably a better
pairing with with Mahomes. Well, no.
If you take Mahomes, if you take Mahomes and Caleb, you just get
Mahomes twice, which feels pretty fun.
That is pretty. Fun I I think I'm cook.
If he makes it, he probably won't.
Yeah, I am too. There he goes.
OK. We want.
I have a name I want we. We want Kittle.
Yeah, I was. I wasn't going to say it before
this guy, whatever He he knows we probably want Kittle, but.
I mean he literally watched us make this exact pick the last
time that we did. Yeah, well, actually Kittle
again. Elite T tight end is terrible in
this format. You want to make sure you're
just getting Hunter Henry, Kay Dalton, Tyler Craft, Tucker
Craft in the last three rounds. That's what you need in this
format. Alright, It'll work.
Yeah. All right, if any of you are in
a mini schnauzer draft with me in the next hour, I'm auto
drafting them so don't at me when my team is terrible.
Kittle's kinda sweet here with the Devo man, yeah.
My Kittle exposure is like you ever have like a take where you
where like. So the take I have is that
Kittle is just a better football player than Kyle Pitts, Dalton
Kincaid. It's like literally not even.
It's literally not even. It's not even, it's not even,
it's literally not even. Yeah, it's, it's just so
obvious. But there's just so many ways,
like Kittle gets banged up or whatever and I lose.
But I'm just saying, you know what, those universes don't
exist. I just going to have a crazy
amount of George Kittle this year and let's see what happens.
Let's have some fun. I mean, step one is kind of
already happening, right? Yeah, You know, we still have
the the pure cell injury, Iuke weirdness going on.
What's going on with Iuke? What's?
What's going? On that's what I'm saying.
That's what I'm saying step step one is already happening.
Iuke is not been with a team. Season starts in 10 days.
Yeah, although I think isn't he just kind of doing the the CD
Jamar chase thing now or he's going to sign and.
The the 49ers cap situation is is just more complex though than
those teams as far as I understand.
Well, I just mean he's like he's like all right, like I'm not
going to be like pre season games though guys or going in
pre season games. I should say.
He wants training camp off right.
Isn't that what it is? Is he enough?
To have earned that respect. He is, if he refuses to sign a
contract, all. Right, that's fair.
I've I've been like drafting a lot about you, kind of
pretending this doesn't matter, but same.
Yeah, I don't. Know I am too, but it makes me a
bit nervous. Yeah, like when is this type of
situation gone, right, where the guy holds out till the last
second. And then, I mean, I'm sure it
has worked out, but there's also examples where guys just start
so slow after that type of situation that it just scares me
a little bit. For sure.
I mean, I'm scared specifically about Iuke because of how
Shanahan does stuff where I, I feel like Shanahan is such a a
meticulous game planner, such a meticulous structure, structure
artist of, of an offense that like guys, he's been in the lab
for six months not knowing that Brandon Iuke was going to be on
his team. Yeah, how many wrinkles does he
have for Iuke? Yeah, like, not if this is the
Debo year, this is the Debo, this is the Debo wrinkle year
with Kittle running, you know, routes next to guys who can't
earn targets. Wow, that's.
Love to see Hollywood Brown as your wider super two.
Just just got to do that. I'm a little tilted there, can't
tell. Yeah, I kind of wanted him that.
That's early for him these days, right?
Yeah, that's I think it's literally, I think 72 is right
at his ADP. Oh I'm fully DraftKings brained
where he goes in like the one 10s because people see the the
doubtful tag. Yeah.
He goes much later there. Yeah, and DraftKings is really,
I'm always been a huge underdog guy.
Once I go back to a state where I can play it, I'm going to be
an underdog guy. But the opportunities you have
in DraftKings to build super teams is just it's, it's, it is
crazy. It is crazy.
You do. You come back.
You come back to being like, if I don't get Jalen Warren with
this pick, the entire House of Cards comes tumbling down to
being like, Jolin Polk's here at 155.
Sure. Why not?
It? I mean, it's really, it's really
insane. Yeah.
Jordan, I got Jordan Addison at like 135 today.
I'm not even a Jordan Addison guy really, but I'm like.
What? That's crazy.
Yeah, that's actually crazy. Yeah, his ADP is like 110 I
think. It's just it's nuts all.
Right, So what are you thinking here?
Yeah, this is this is the deal with the Devil Spot.
Oh. God.
Where the running backs, the running backs project for like
meaningfully more points, but it's kind of the last group of
running backs or wide receivers. You can even squint and be like,
oh, maybe this will be OK. Yeah, I think I'm Keyon if he if
he's here. Yeah, I agree.
Yeah. Matt.
Matt Porter. Matt Porter.
Oh, all right, there you go. Snap, snap.
Keenan, I think. Or Keon.
Are you good? Same with that.
Yeah, yeah, I'm good with Keon. Famously, yeah.
It doesn't doesn't feel like great, but I feel like it's the
right pick. Yeah.
CD Lamb's cousin. CD Lamb's cousin Yeah, man, I
don't I don't know what to do with Keon.
Like the roll stuff from the preseasons seemed really good,
which I guess we should care about more, but the performance
was just not really that inspiring.
I mean I. Guess it's it's no.
Certainty. I've got no certainty.
He's like going to out target Mack Hollins.
I mean, Mack Hollins might out target Curtis Samuel.
Khalil well, the the Mack Hollins.
Got a good pick? The the, the turf toe really
open. I mean, the turf toe really
opens it up for Shakur and for Keon.
I was pretty sure Shakur was even bad at like wide receiver
55 or whatever before that and now it's now.
It's pretty open for Shakur I think.
Yeah, I have to say with. I've heard Evan Silva talk about
Shakur. He's he's kind of in my ear now.
We're like it's a vibes based pick a little bit, but like I
can see it just being Shakur out of this these three I.
Don't know. I mean, I just don't.
I just don't think. I just don't think Shakur is all
that good. But I.
Don't either, but. Maybe Josh Allen is really good.
He he does have a little bit of the Greg Dorch thing where like
when I see Shakur play, I'm like, it's pretty.
Good. And then like, why does he
never? Why does he never play?
Yeah, I don't know. Both, both him and Dorch have
like 12% career targets for route run, but they have like
5-10 target games somehow. And you're like, what?
What is going on? Are these spreadsheets wrong?
Like, yeah, I think that's great.
We gotta you gotta pick. Here, yeah, I mean.
I have a guy like. What I want?
Yeah, I agree. I agree.
I was going to make a case for Shakira.
'S big and fast. Shakira's not big and not that
fast for his size. Jalen Warren is who I would like
to take. Yeah, same.
All right, I'll defer. I'll defer to you personally, I
probably take Mostert. I just want that on the record,
but I'm noted Warren's. Good, better learn legendary
upside buddy. I just love this discount we're
still getting on Warren. He was.
He was going like mid 7th tweaks his hamstring isn't isn't going
to play week one. Then he is going to play week
one and everyone's like yeah, but we can't take him.
We got to see if he'll fall to the hundreds.
What if he falls to the hundreds?
He's not falling the hundreds anymore, guys.
Shakur. Shakur ran a 443 at 196 lbs.
Which like in this day and age, what does that make his wrath
like A7 probably like. Like not good.
No, I bet it's exactly A7, yeah. Yeah.
So we just we just have a thought, we guess Rassus where?
We guess Rassus that that is good.
Please, please check Kalil Shakur for me, because I'm going
to guess. I'm going to guess it's quite
bad. Yeah, I think it's six, six to
seven range, something like a six.
Wow, eight O 1. OK, sorry, sorry.
Sorry Khalil. Sorry.
Khalil started to a whole point. The the thing, the thing I can't
the thing I can't get out of my head is that Khalil Shakur was
basically the reason they lost the game to the Chiefs.
That that the pass where Allen got hit by I don't remember the
lineman and missed the spot by a little bit, that if Shakur would
have been heads up, he could have made the play, but his head
wasn't up, so he didn't. And I'm just like, I don't know.
To me that is that's too much ball knowing that like it
literally doesn't matter. But.
Yeah, I mean. It was a really bad play.
It was a really, it was a really bad play by by him is all.
The other thing I can't get over is he's on the field, you know,
Gabe Davis kind of one of the the ultimate win sprinter
spinters in the league. Khalil Shakur is on the field
with Gabe Davis his whole career and can't get over like 14%
targets for outrun. Like this is the guy that's
going to be the focal point of the offense.
It's just I get Diggs was there, but I don't know man, the
targets were outrun. Like what's the example of the
guy with that low of a target earning profile that like
explodes in year three-year? Jaylin Tolbert, according to
everyone, drafted him at 1:40. This is Jaylin Tolbert.
Yeah. OK, Korain, there used to be
there used to be the n + 1 comps on Rotobiz, you know where you.
Could where they. They do the.
Aren't there still? There's not.
How do you find them? I I it's like I'm sure there's a
way to find them but I I need the n + 1 comps.
I think I can find it. Hang on.
Because I'm going to guess, I'm going to guess his N + 1 comps
are like the worst cadre of God you can imagine.
It's going to be like, like, like Terrace Marshall is going
to show up there somehow or like it's not going to be good.
Yeah, I think I found it. That's a good point, you guys
are too close to the sun. I just kick click the cool
sounding. Names.
Thank you. That's that's actually how you
get on Khalil Shakur I. Was going to say please, please
bring me back to my roots which is being like Toby Gerhart.
Good name, good running back name.
Toby Gerhart should have been good.
All right, I got it. Is it the Screener?
It's the range of outcomes app. The range of outcomes.
My God you guys are gonna love this.
Please can you share your screen I'm.
Keeping an eye on it, so don't worry, Here we go.
Here's the name. Freddie Sweat, Russell Gidd.
Terrace Marshall, I said. Terrace Marshall's name was
going to come up. Alex Erickson is a good one too.
Wow. Where's Watkins?
These are these are the names you would expect.
Braxton Barrios. His his his teammate from last
year, Trent Sherfield all. Right, let's hang on.
We got to do it. Oh God, it's going to.
Get any worse? So bad.
Yeah, that's killing James Proche.
Oh God, the other Mike Thomas. The other Mike Thomas.
Yeah, wrong, Mike Thomas. I'm surprised the cops there
just don't don't say convert to tight end.
All right, I'm, I'm, I'm done. I'm done with Tolbert.
That enough, right? There was enough for me to be
like I'm playing bad and I need to stop playing bad.
What? What do we like here?
Oh. God Shakur for the bit.
Shakira would be. We were actually just fighting
him for the last. We were just fighting for the
last three minutes so we could take him here.
God. Are you, well, you don't like
Javante very much, I think one of these running backs.
No, no, I do like Javante. I meant Sam.
Oh well, we can outvote him. All right, let's outvote him
again. You sure it's a running back
spot though? With it's not.
Really. But like it's kind.
Of a we should go with like a Dobbs or one of the Bills guys.
I think Shaheed is my favorite of these guys.
I think we will get one of these wide receivers that we feel
ambivalent about, like I the only one of these guys is a
podium pick. I mean, I I would be Zach Moss
over Javonte, but that's just me.
That's I'd, I'd do that. I mean that that helps me even
out my bags a little bit more. I I, I took Chase Brown three
times already in the in the big dog so.
This feels horrible, but let's. Let's go.
I'll do. I don't care.
I think these guys are both good.
Yeah, I want. I mean your guys Chase Brown
bags are probably not as heavy as mine, but honestly every time
I take Zac Moss when Chase Brown is off, I'm like that's one that
the slappies can't say that I was too sloppy.
That's how I do naji. It's mostly after Warren's gone
which is harder to do now but but I do.
Every time I take Naji I'm like, see?
We are, I mean, I hope everyone has their prayer circles ready
because we are. We are at the Smosh P rhyme.
Oh, here we are. Yeah, we're going to find out.
It's. It's it's today and tomorrow.
Like someone posted in my YouTube chat yesterday that they
think there's a handshake deal between the Bengals and the
Broncos to just flip him for a seventh round pick whenever they
decide what to do, which would totally make sense.
This is Sam. Make this pick really bad.
Well, it. It would make just a.
It would make it. It would make it.
Make it be. Terrible.
But it would Sam, that was your comp of being like the Bengals
are too stupid to figure out how to pick up a guy off the waiver
wire. So if you just do the seventh
round pick, you could just slot his cap number right in.
Yeah, that, that is true. I don't think they know how to
use the waiver wire. Someone's got to like, help them
log into their ESPN account. All right.
Well, every wide receiver that I thought was basically
interesting wins. So we did those in the reverse
order. We should have taken them.
No, I, I I'm into Shaheed, you guys don't.
Like Shaheed, Yeah, No, I like, I like Shheed just fine.
Yeah. Has he shown any signs of life
recently? What's the latest on?
Nah, he's he's basically missed all of.
Yeah, he's basically hasn't played in a.
Month. All right, Yeah, that's seems
like a great pick. All right, great.
Oh, it was. Do we do we want to go lock it
or something else? Or you could.
No, no, I'm I'm fine with Shaheed.
OK, kidding. Jolin Polk sets up.
Yeah, yeah. Could have done that.
We got he doesn't go this early, does he?
No, he doesn't go this early. Yeah, but he probably won't get
back to us. I just wish yeah, Shaheed was a
guy I was really high on and just like just practice once
maybe would be nice. Yeah, practicing once would have
been would have been good. Kind of feels like we dropped
the baby a little bit with with not going Javonte P.
Ryan. P Ryan's going to sign there.
You know he is. All I care about is P rhyme not
being a Bengal. Honestly at this.
Point not being a cowboy. I'd sacrifice.
I'd sacrifice Dowdle to be right about.
Chase I'd I'd sacrifice your Chase Brown bags to be right
about my Dowdle bags. Did the weird thing about the
last. Look, one of us is going to die
and honestly, I hope he goes. I hope he goes to the Buccaneers
so that it's the Rashad White people who.
Died. Oh wow, the Buccaneers would be
something. They have they have like
literally no use for him and it but they just feels like the IT.
Just feels the Raiders that's interdivision so they probably
won't do. What about this is what I was
thinking of the the Ravens. That Owen Wright guy just broke
his foot. He was like the RV 3 they
already had. Somash P Ryan.
His name is Justice Hill. Yeah, but what about slightly
bigger? Just they do like a cast off
running back though. They're they're into that.
I'm like, I like handing this like is giving me anxiety.
Like Somash P Ryan is like going to keep me up at night.
I'm not even kidding. Like if Somash P Ryan goes to
the Bengals, Chase Brown is like a 15th round pick.
Yeah, we took. Him to the eighth round of the
main event. Eighth round.
I just wish Paul Denner of The Athletic didn't put Somash P
Ryan in every single one of his articles.
Just maybe leave him out. Leave him out once.
This is the I don't have to mention him every single time.
But it's this is the craziest thing.
It's like if the Broncos all off season since they took estimate.
We're like, oh, yeah, we love estimate.
Estimate estimate is is you know, he's coming.
Like why is Smosh Pyran bet on the team this whole time?
I don't know why not just cut him two months ago.
I guess because you're like this dude can play and like we
there's sometimes injuries and like they care more about the
team than this than this player. Like if you're just thinking
about your team, you should keep P Ryan.
What am I? I just like, I got to, I got to
come up with a good pithy tweet for when Smosh P Ryan ends up
being a Bengal. Because everyone's going to be
like, Davis is going to eat it. He's got all these dead Chase
Brown teams. I don't.
I still think it's like 40% they they keep P Ryan.
Well then I got a bunch of dead estimate teams.
Yeah, that's my put my estimate bags, dude.
So you're just what is your? What's the best outcome for you?
He retires because even because even the Chiefs, which other
people have mentioned, now that I'm taking Carson Steele, it's
not even good for me. No, yeah, that's that would
hurt. You know what, Giants?
No, it needs to be a team like Giant.
The Colts. You're not taking a trace in the
RV 2. I'm taking, I'm taking a little
bit of Giants, a little bit of Tracy, but not not to impact my
bags in any meaningful. You know what, I kind of hope,
because we all deserve this, that he goes to the Chargers.
Yeah, that one seems fair. That seems more fair somehow.
I don't. Know Yeah, it seems fair to
everyone, the whole community. Oh, peer on to the Jags.
Peer on to the Jags impacts me in no way.
I think we want that. That sounds great.
Peer on, peer on to the Jags. Peer on to the Jags.
Peer on to. The That was a good one.
The cult was a really. Good one.
Honestly though, I accept any scenario where he's not a
bangle, just any any possible scenario where he is not a
bangle and the Chris Evans injury, you know, feels like it
makes it a little bit more likely to.
Yeah, that, that one, Yeah, that one was annoying because I think
they're going to keep Chris Evans as a special teamer on the
roster. Guys I like legitimately have
elevated heart rate right now from this conversation.
Like this is so brutal. I have elevated heart rate from
no good picks being left. Is there not a?
Is there not a wide receiver that we like?
Mike Williams. No, no, I meant, I meant Jolene
Polk. He's gone.
He's long gone. Yeah, there are no good picks.
Here's there's. Charbenet or Ford on climb that.
Can be done. We don't have any court.
We don't need Ford, really. We're Charbenet.
Mike Williams, I think Mike Williams isn't terrible for this
team, to be honest. We have kind.
Of AI? Honestly don't think so.
Key. We have we have key on too.
Yeah, yeah, let's see Williams. That's up Rogers.
Roger Stack isn't a bad out to to have on this team.
Yeah, we, we, we pushed it at wide receiver.
I think making sure we don't just go to the pure Flyers is
good. I like Mike Williams.
I know it's you're not going to get any cool fantasy football
points for saying that this year, but he's basically Diegans
but better than on The Jets. True, he's actually had an 11
touchdown season, too. I mean, that one, the Teagans
comparisons are mostly like meant to be derogatory.
That one was meant to be pro Mike Williams.
That's how this whole thing started.
I was trying to make a pro Mike Williams point and everyone
interpreted as you hate Teagans. Well, were they wrong?
All right, What are we doing here?
I think running back probably. Probably Benson.
Benson, honestly, if we think about just like contributing to
the team, I think Ty Chandler probably has the best bit of
doing that. Sure.
But I'm OK, I'm OK with Benson if you guys.
Want we just already, we already have our stud and then we have
like our two, like these guys are going to get points every
single week. Fuck, I don't know.
Where are you? I'd probably go Benson.
Yeah, Benson. Benson is like, I mean, he was
like a very good prospect. He landed in a good situation,
you know. Yeah.
That's what I've been trying to do on Benson is I'm just trying
to like zoom out on all this like preseason noise a little
bit. Second running back taken on the
draft. I ranked all the running back
situations pre draft like before knowing where guys would land to
try to have like an unbiased view of it.
I had Cardinals in the top ten like James Connor's good, but
aging veteran, absolutely no running back to there to really
compete with. I still think it's a good bat.
I I just, I don't know the the depth chart stuff obviously
scares me a little bit, but I still think it's, I still think
it's a good bat. I do too.
Yeah, it makes more sense with the anchor running back Bill.
Yeah, we don't need him week one at all on this team.
No, no. Well, if Jalen Warren's out and
somebody, if you're on signs of the Bengals, then we do need
him. But besides that.
Well, Jalen Warren's not going to be out week one, he said.
He's not going to be out Week 1. Oh, did he?
Yeah, he said. He would have played in the
preseason game if he if it was a regular season game.
Fake dip these. That's the thing.
Drafting in these big dogs just sucks cuz everyone's pretty good
and there's always one auto drafting team.
Which means if everyone's pretty good and there's one auto
drafting team, like nothing fun happens.
Yeah, you're basically just drafting off ADP.
Which one auto drafting team is like, if you're gonna have auto
drafters, you want like two or three.
So they're just like just crazy dead teams.
One auto drafter just sucks. One auto drafter, you're just
like, all right, Well, any no one's getting to the wrong side
of the board. It's just it's just brutal.
Benson. Like what is the functional
difference between Benson and Quorum where there's like a
forty spot gap? Well, Benson used to go way
ahead of Quorum, Yeah. And then I think correctly
that's flipped just based on, I think that Quorum is kind of the
clear running back too, and Benson is not yet.
But The thing is, it's like if Connor went down, they're not
going to turn to Amari Demarcato and be like carry the load.
So he still really does have a lot of contingent value.
Yeah, I mean, Michael Carter, not a player I'm concerned
about. And then agree.
Michael Carter, it's just been given up on by every team he's
ever played for, including his college team, which is kind of
interesting. Like Michael Carter went from
being a starter to the benching and also as a four year player.
He he's, he's bad. I think also it's like obviously
it's good if a rookie running back has a weak a weak one role,
but there's plenty of times where they like Nick Chubb did
not really have a weak one role at all his rookie year.
He was awesome down the stretch. Obviously there's the 8 chain
example last year like it. I don't know.
It's I'm just not. I'm not freaking out out of bat
with Benson, but I'm definitely bad defending because I will.
Well, there's a little bit of extrapolation from what happened
when Connor got injured last year.
But when Connor got injured last year, their team was insane ass
and these were the running backs they had available.
Kiante Ingram, 31 year old Damian Williams, and Amari D
Mercado and then eventually Michael Carter.
So I'm not, I'm not reading a ton into that.
What do you guys want to do here?
We could take Rogers. What are the other stack options
we have? I don't.
Want I don't want to take
Rogers. OK, one stack option we could
have would be if we take on our Henry.
Here, I think that's who I want to take.
OK. You think injured Hunter Henry
over Colcomat All right. Yeah, dude, didn't you see my,
didn't you see my Shane Waldron tweet?
It's like actually crazy. I kind of thought it was FUD
from the Shane Waldron haters. This snap shares that he has
given tight ends the three years in Seattle.
Some of the most batshit scene I've ever.
Bat shit stuff I've ever seen. Three straight years where no
tight end topped 64% of snaps, 2 years where they didn't top 56%.
Every year a second tight end played at least 47% and a third
tight end played at least 15%. So it's just like.
Yeah, it's. Annoying.
It's it's just it's just yeah, it's it's I think I think Phant
is the I mean, two ways to read that.
First being Phant breakout stuff like it was just bad luck.
Bad luck that Phant, who is this good player, got traded at a
time when he got lined up with a coach who didn't value his
position or didn't treat his position as a premium position.
And then the other way to read it is Cole Comet.
Better learn Gerald Everett, buddy.
The the way I've interpreted that a little bit differently is
like you can at least make sense of the Seattle rotation and that
like Will Disley and Colby Parkinson are better blockers.
And no offense. So I get while they're on the
field, like what exactly is Gerald Everett better than Cole
Comet at? And over the course of the
season, isn't that just going to skew towards Comet getting a bit
like Gerald Everett can't block? The problem, the problem that I
see is that Cole Comet isn't that good.
Like he's not, he's better than than he's.
Like Mike Davis at tight end. But I don't know that I'm
willing to bet on Cole Comet to like prove it to a coach that he
has to be out there when he doesn't seem to think that right
now. You know what I mean?
Like it's like I'm I'm generally willing to bet on talent to kind
of prove out. But at tight end specifically,
receiving talent who's guy who's like an OK receiver versus like
a less than OK receiver, like it's too close, you know?
All right, what do we got here? So this is when you got to do it
if we're going to do it. I think we just do it.
All right, all right, get our guys season.
Nothing like taking Drake May in the 14th round to prove a
fucking point. Let's.
Fucking go. You better be the starter by
week 6. I I think he will be.
I'm pretty sure he will. Be we could, we could do.
We could do next Franklin. Yeah, I think you're.
Really scared. I'm not, I'm not that scared
about May. The only thing I am scared about
with New England is man their online.
I think the reports about how bad their online was are very
true. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.
They're atrocious. How good, How good did that
Drake May 3rd, 3rd and 10 pockets collapsing around him.
No one can get open and he's just like, you know what?
It's the the the outside scramble.
When the pocket breaks down and you escape the scramble.
That's an easy first down to get.
Much harder to get the scramble where you stay in the pocket as
it collapses around you, decide you can't make the throw and get
the first down running up the middle.
That is a much harder thing to do.
I also think that, you know, this is one of the things that
that showed up in his college data is that he scrambles from a
clean pocket at a high rate. And on that, it's like, it's not
like there's a guy kind of, he didn't escape anybody.
He just assessed pretty quickly, like I'm not getting the ball to
anyone. I'm running like he's got that,
that it kicks in quick, but he can also look downfield too.
So he's not like constantly running.
So I, I personally, it felt validating based on what I
thought he was that, you know, he's kind of willing to run in
that kind of situation that way. Yeah, I'm going to have to go
here for the last couple picks. So I'll say goodbye now and let
you guys finish off the draft. All I'll say quickly.
We'll be back next Monday, final ADP chasing.
We'll have our truth serum episode.
We'll be going over, I think maybe three to four hot takes
per person, realistic hot takes. We'll talk about exactly.
I want to frame it but. Yeah, truth serum.
I think we should we should discuss exact because to me,
truth. Serum, we'll discuss what that
means. Yeah, it's not hot.
Hot takes is not what I meant to say.
Yeah, it's like you, you take truth serum.
So now you got to, you got to say like my truth serum take was
about a player who I'm actually not taking enough of for, for
Pete's video. Yeah.
And I'm like, what I should take?
I know I should take more this guy, but I'm struggling to do
it. And here the I'm only telling
this because I took truth serum. Yep.
All right, guys. Good luck rest of the draft,
I'll see you later. Drake made 30 picks ahead of ADP
and Sam can't handle it, so he just.
He's he's bouncing. Sam, Sam pulling a Silva, he's
gone full ATR. He's just like you nerds.
Take whatever you want. I do the Silva, I do the, I do
the Silva 150 and that's all I need to do.
After 150, I'm dropping off. All right, so we've got what,
2462? Yeah.
All right. So at least one of those six
will be a last round Patriots wide receiver.
Whichever one we want. We probably need one more
running back. I'd probably do another.
I could be convinced into another quarterback or another
tight end. I could do.
I could do either or. Honestly, I think given what we
did with May, we did the reach. We probably just bet on it and
stick stick to two. But I think Rogers is still
here. Yeah, right.
I mean. I I'm not, I'm not, it's
definitely I'm not, I'm not forcing it, but like, I think
this is a running back pick right here.
The running backs are wiped. Although no, just the cover
guys. Yeah, never mind.
Never mind. There's the name, there's always
the name, There's always, there's always the name in the.
Name. There's always the name.
You're right. You're right.
Yeah, we push Rogers. Well, I don't know if you've
been doing this, but I'm like, there's ten days left of
drafting. Like I don't need to waste any
more of my life trying to pretend to care about balancing
my exposures. Like if I want Carson Steele,
I'm just going to take Carson Steele, but there, there's a
better name. Yeah, I think this is the name,
right? Yeah.
That's the name. Yeah, and Sam was all the way
back into SO. We got it.
That's another I I bring. Back as well.
I took. I've been taking.
It we're good at running back, right?
Sorry. Yeah, I mean, we can take
another one if we want. Be at.
We're probably good. Yeah.
Just remember to click on your round eighteen pick and not let
underdog choose Gino Smith for you.
That literally happened to me right before we got on the
stream. I was doing a best ball mania
and my positional limits were set from fast drafting, auto
drafting puppies and I had Cione Vaki in the queue in the round
18 and I had it all set up and then it by positional limits.
Otto drafted Geno Smith for me because I didn't click it, I
just had him in the queue. Horrible, horrible.
That's horrible, man. All right, this is a pretty good
team. There's still a team.
Oh, Geno just went. I was going to say that team did
not have a oh, well, Nix was going to be the other, the other
quarterback I was going to float.
So that's probably dead now. The Nick's Nick's may
correlation has to be so high it's like.
It has to be. Yeah.
It's only, it's only, it's only slappies like it's it's, it's
only people who know what a Jaccard tree is who have taken.
Yeah. If you've heard of Jaccard, then
you have Nixon May. Together it's 100%.
The Jaccard similarity on that is is very similar. 100%, So we
obviously we can take a wide receiver here.
Is there any tight end that's interesting to you?
Like, probably not, yeah, not really anyone I think.
Rogers makes a lot of sense at this point.
We're getting him 30 picks past ADP and.
Whatever. And we have the key on bring
back. Quarterbacks do add like third
quarterback to do add way more points than you think.
Yeah, and we're just got to win the league first and foremost.
Well, the, the thing about the Knicks May Week 14 is that
they're a perfect pairing with Jalen Hertz, Justin Herbert,
Trevor Lawrence, like, like just they're, they're because don't
get me wrong, like I'm very excited about Drake May.
There are definitely going to be some weeks this dude scores 7.2
on yeah, points. Like don't don't get me wrong,
there are going to be some rough, rough Drake May weeks.
Yeah, I, I agree. I mean, he's going to throw
interceptions, He's going to take Sachs.
He doesn't take like Sachs at a crazy high rate.
It's not like Jayden Daniels in the Sachs taking, but it's it's
not like he avoids them all the time either.
So there's going to be there's going to be some down weeks for
sure. And I mean, the offensive line
is just so bad. So in addition to his rookie
growing pains that the double edged sword, right, like the
offensive line is bad, he's going to run a little bit more
because the offensive line is also going to create some
problems. So yeah, that's true.
I agree. I I think I mean May, I'm doing
a lot 3 quarterback builds with me now.
He's just like late season. He just.
Yeah, I do. Supercharged as a team.
I do that. I mean I would do more elite
quarterback builds with him if he didn't have that week 14 by
because he's got the same by as Lamar and he's got the same by
as Richardson, which is just isn't that so annoying?
Like why would the NFL do that to us?
It's. It's super super Stroud too.
He would pair so well with Stroud.
Yeah. Oh, I do.
I would do a lot of because it's even on that side of the board
until you get locked out of like Caleb and stuff.
Yeah, it's annoying. Now, I think the best remaining
Chief is sadly a running back. What do you, what do you think
about that? I mean, I think we can just take
two more wide receivers. I've got no issue with it.
But do we? If we want to take another
Chief, I think the best one left is a running back.
I agree. I think we at least push it to
the 18th. It we right, the receiver's the
bigger need we I would say tight end is honestly a bigger need
than receiver as well. Or then then running back I
mean. I don't know.
I can't. I don't know if I can look
myself in the face if we did A3573 in the big dogs.
We just really need to go. We just really need to get to
the final. We do though.
We do so which what's what's your what's your favorite 18th
round Pats wide receiver? There are there are four to pick
from. Which one do you take?
Born at this point because Baker.
Baker blew it. Yeah, that doesn't feel very
good. I think John, who's the best
pick here? I know you.
I kind of wanted, I kind of like Malik Washington, though I think
I'm more Malik Washington than John who?
Smith, actually. Do you want to take steel then?
I might Carson Steele and a big dog is proving that you've got
heart. Yes, it seriously is.
What if What if our What if Gen. Z Michael Scott catching?
OK, so there goes John. OK, none of these receivers
really jump out to me. It's like.
No, like Malik Washington would be my non.
He's my current round eighteen. Click.
Honestly, can we do Mac Hollins? I I like Malik Washington better
than Mac Collins. But we've got we got the the
bring back with. We already have a bring back.
We already have Keon Coleman. Keon Coleman.
This is this is this is negative correlation to make sure we get
the X. Keon Coleman, Keon Coleman and
Mac Collins are negatively correlated.
Exactly. Yeah, we're just making sure but
but. Oh, so we're just.
Coleman or Widest Singer 4. So we're just trying to
handcuff. We're hand cucking the the Bills
X receiver. How much does the chat hate
this? Let me see.
They, they hate the steel pick more.
They, they, they. Were well, we were always
drafting steel. OK, so.
Yeah, I wasn't even going to draft steel until I saw Karain
tweet that he was going to draft steel.
So so I he like you would think that I would be the one being
like, Pat, you got to get some of this, you got to get some of
this Chiefs full back. And then I was like, wait, no.
This is this is some fantasy Ouija board shit where you're
just, we're all just kind of. I.
Think. Malik Washington with like
McDaniel, McDaniel just said. Oh.
He's gone man all. Right.
Well, he's gone all right. I think we handcook.
I think we do Bourne or. Odds Bourne All right, we can do
war. Yeah, Bourne.
Bourne kind of fits. Well, Osborne actually might be
the the better one here because we, well, no, we've only got 1
rookie. So now it.
Yeah, whichever one you want. Well, we have Mike Williams
coming off injury as well, so that's where.
Yeah, let's do, let's do, let's do.
Bourne or Osborne. Up to you.
I think Bourne sure. I'm not an Osborne guy.
All right, so there it is. The the reason, the reason
people are asking why it's not Taekwon, The reason why it's not
Taekwon is Pat and I are very familiar with Taekwon's game,
Yeah. Which is that he's gonna find a
reason to get on that bench. Real.
Yeah, he likes the He likes the bench.
Like heated benches are his favorite.
I mean, weirdly, he probably is awesome in practice because he's
so fast. Yeah, like in in practice, like,
like Alex Van Pelt and Barrett Mayo get it.
And they're like, why was Bill not playing this guy?
And then you get him in a game and you're like, oh, it's very
obvious why he's not playing. All right, you want to recap the
team I got to. Well, I got to go to the
bathroom really badly, but we'll, we'll recap and then get
out of here. I can't see the entire board,
but you can you can go pee and I can recap.
All right, We did the Patrick Mahomes thing.
We did something that you guys probably are are going to
disagree with. We did Rashi Rice early and then
we did Mahomes coming back around.
You're you're, you're on mute. I'm just gonna, I'm gonna stay
here. OK, yeah, wow, guy, the guy,
that's how much he cares about you.
I feel very good about this. I mean, we basically just flip
flop May and Rogers as ADP. So cost wise it doesn't it
doesn't even matter. We we did do A6 running back
room starting out with Bijon Bijon, Warren Moss, Benson,
Bidel. Well.
That's because we have. 3. Zeros 5 back and bring back.
I was I was gonna say we've got we've got three.
We've got 3 zeros in Benson, Videl and Steele and and some
point fives in, in, in Benson and in in Jalen Warren Rogers
and Mike Williams with a key on Coleman bring back.
I mean, people are people are mad we took three quarterbacks,
but I think it's fine. I think it's fine.
I mean, Mahomes, I just talked about this on Pete's stream
earlier this morning. Like Mahomes is, you know, he
gets a lot of his points through the air.
And so it's not as far as elites go.
I don't mind having a third guy with him again.
I just. I just think.
The pre quarterback on average adds more points than the third
tight end cuz at least quarterbacks score points third
like third tight ends should do not score.
They just like every time I see a new guy who like a new I ran a
SIM, I did XY and Z and they do the analysis on tight ends and
they're like they all suck. No one scores any points.
They're all the same. Yeah, people are again, not
getting the Rashi Rice vibe. I mean, Corinne and I are just
believers. Like we just think Rashi Rice is
good at football. If you don't think Rashi Rice is
good at football, then you're you're going to disagree.
So. You want to see this?
Discerning viewers will note. I have this auto slept through a
big dog. No, you want to see it.
It's so frustrating. That's why you have to set.
That's why you have to set the positional limits, Pat. 4
quarterbacks, it has all these players I like on it.
It's just a horrible team. This is this team didn't come
together. You got.
You caught the you caught the Johan Dodson falling knife.
Yeah, just somehow I have a stack with Richardson and
Pittman. You getting you getting Pittman
is actually a great bit. It's a great bit.
I've got the stack of Houston and Stroud.
What if what if this is your team that gets through to the
final? You we get to week 17, you
drafted 950 teams and your big dog that auto drafted while you
were sleeping is the team that's in the.
Final it's like one thing if you like like Daniel Raz has this
team that he auto drafted like it was like the nuts and then he
realized by the late rounds what was happening and he saved it
and so it's actually just like a sick team but he got like 5
picks on it. I can't even, there's nothing to
say like I don't, I don't even have that.
This is just. I mean discerning viewers.
Also I've gotten pings in your discord and in my discord and in
the YouTube chat that people are mad at my auto drafted.
The sidekick doesn't auto draft for you.
So this was just this is in some ways it is an advertisement for
the sidekick because that was sidekick free got.
It I'm auto drafting mini schnauzer teams right now and
people are saying that the teams are bad.
To which I say, what if auto drafting 20 mini Schnauzers
while drafting a big dog with Pat Crane on stream is what I
need to win $10,000 on Underdog this year?
All right, let's let's get out of here.
Davis, what? What do you What's your
streaming schedule this week? Tomorrow I'm going live at 11:00
AM Central time with Rich. I've got to be done streaming by
2:45 PM Central time because I got to take my dogs to the vet.
Then I'm going to stream every day this week.
I'm streaming. I'm streaming every day until
the season starts. You got any time you want to hop
on the stream this week, you got you got an open hour in your
schedule. Sure.
Yeah, later in the week, later in the I think I got it.
I got it right up the legendary running back series, which we'll
have out this week. So I'm blocking off tomorrow and
some of Wednesday to to finish that up.
But yeah, Speaking of sidekick, we hopefully we'll have you
streaming the sidekick on your stuff.
Yeah, have sacrilegious or Shady or whoever send me the the
extension that I need and I will have it up and running tomorrow.
Beautiful. All right, there you go.
We'll see you guys here for ship chasing.
Ton of content for you this week.
Take it easy and I guess I'll play the outro music.