Good morning from Chili Buffalo. I'm Mike Shope.
Our heroes, Pat Crane in San Diego, Davis Maddock in Saint
Louis, Jacob Sanderson in Vancouver.
Got the map covered, will join me in a few moments.
We've got risers and fallers. We've got The Beatles, we've got
running backs, those icky running backs.
The panel may disagree in that 8910 round range.
We'll break that down and a new season long game debuts today.
We have to figure out how it works, but we will do that on
the fly here as we go. ADP chasing Mike Pat, Davis,
Jacob March 25th, 2025 in Underdog Best ball ADP is set by
two separate yet equally important groups, streamers that
set the market and the slappies that chase it.
These are their stories. Still slaps.
Still slaps quite good.
Quite good. 1st, a tweet that caught my attention yesterday
from Jacob, who asks in a very, you know, polite way.
We have it to share, to show everybody.
Do you like The Beatles? You know, it's a question.
This is a a very popular trait that people have now or
something that is obviously good or obviously important people
like actually just stinks. This, this all emanated from I,
I was in a group. I'm, I'm in this group chat
where we're talking like football 24/7 basically.
And you know, one of the dudes, the Patriots fan and he was
arguing at their offensive line has improved versus last year,
which is like one of the funniest.
Things. Oh, buddy.
That's true, but like. It is true, but like.
But like, mostly meaningless anyway.
And so another dude comes in and he's like, it's getting.
He's like, you gotta admit, it's getting better.
It can't get much worse. And the guy's like, what is this
a reference to? He's like, it's a Beatles song.
And then we go in this big debate and there's like 6 people
in this group chat who are like The Beatles Sock.
I never listened to them. They're horrible.
It all just gets shattered. My, my like foundation of
humanity. So I think Twitter was with me.
I think they had, I think it was close to 70% in favor of The
Beatles. Andrew in the group chat, firmly
in the 30%. So wait, so you you think?
I'm pro Beatles. I think The Beatles.
Rock Do you like The Beatles though?
Is an interesting way to phrase this question because I think
are The Beatles good? Is an obvious.
Yeah, but I'm not interested. I'm not interested in that
question. I'm.
I'm interested in like, are you actively participating in the
celebration of a Seminole musical artist?
Do I have to? Do I have to put them on like in
my free time? Is that a thing I have to do to
participate? You don't have to.
I'm not holding a gun to your head, but but if you don't, then
I. Yeah, do.
Do you ever? Do you ever?
You're in your car? Do you ever put on a Beatles
song? Yeah, I like.
Time, time to put on Revolver and like vibe.
Yeah, that's the one that I listen to the most probably is
I'll. Do it, but of course.
A Beatles song from time to time, yes, but I hope there we.
Go. Of course, I've seen them live
four times, so, you know, it's nostalgic for me.
No, of course it's always two different questions.
I could probably think of a terrible movie that most Rotten
Tomatoes, Siskel and Eber, whatever, probably consider
terrible. But I like it, you know, food.
So what was it like when they came over to America?
Today it was incredible you had you really had to be there Shea
Stadium 1965. I mean, I was there with my kids
and that was really is very special night.
I mean, so. To be fair, people will say
things. I mean, we, we literally have a
hot take artist in the chat. They they, they're music.
Here's. I'm not, I'm not, I'm trying to,
I'm I'm trying to give a reasonable take, which it's like
if you put on if some, if we were sitting around and you put
on like this is The Beatles Spotify playlist, I'd be like.
I mean, The thing is, is it's just the reason why it's
undeniably good music is that all the music you like, Name
your name your favorite person, you could trace it back.
You'd be like, oh, this your favorite album of all time?
The first time these notes were ever played sequentially was on
this Beatles album. 100% but you could trace their music back to
some like pipe in like, you know, 9000 beats.
Well, no, you'd trace. We have to trace.
Your music back to they they stole.
It. Yeah, mostly.
Mostly black people. You want the the stones.
The stones are even better for that.
Go back to the Deep South, the Lou.
Zeppelin. I mean, Zeppelin songs are just
like, literal. Like, that's the same song, man.
Yeah. Yeah.
You can still love it. Remains the same.
Clearly the name there, that's good.
Here we go. I think it's let.
Me ask this Rolling Stones are Beatles.
I'm going Beatles.
I just that's what I listened to growing up.
Like I think it it depends on what your parents or in shop's
case, who you saw first here. You know, whatever you got
exposed. My my parents were Beatles
people. Not that I have anything against
the Stones, but. Yeah, we're we're a big bill
healing in the comics family. My dad literally did Beatles for
breakfast where like from the age of five I listen to one
Beatles song per day at 8:00 in the morning before I went to
school and then we just went through the entire catalog.
I recommend that you know, if you if you don't know your
Beatles, it's worth, you know, trying on legendary stuff.
So I recommend it. You don't have to have seen them
in concert at a long, dilapidated or destroyed.
OK, I think. Would you guys join me in
anointing elevating Zach Lennar's to hero status for the
work? Of course, yes.
Of course. Oh my God.
It's getting undoubted. Undoubted hero, yeah.
I I don't speak Pokémon, but I still love what he's come up
with for today. Boy, boy do Corinne and I speak.
Pokémon I know. What we have spoken.
All I all I will say about this is well, that it's amazing, but
I would I would watch a. Show Mike in the bottom right.
Yes, yes, it's my YT face. I like how you're not thrown by
this child that is you. You know what?
OK, so like I, I actually have, hey, it's happened a weird
amount of times that there's been like animated graphic
images of my face. There's at least two of them
online and they all make me look 8 years old.
Like anytime anyone makes any sort of cartoon version of me,
I, I like a I'm not thrown by that at all.
Actually, Alex, that's the most realistic one that's ever been
done. I feel like mine would look kind
of cool, but then you look at Davis and he's like clearly
younger. You look like my younger
brother. And then I'm like.
Then you look back at me and I'm.
Like, kind of think of you, Davis.
You know, Crane, your hair is not.
If I do, if I did, if I did want to criticize, Crane's hair is
not near tall enough. Yeah, I I should have gotten
some spikes, you know, that's, that would have been a good
Pokémon look. At least it is already poking
into your square. But whatever this I would watch
this show with these with these characters.
I think, you know, Pat and Davis have have been a team for a
while. They're you know, they're
fighting. They're maybe they're teenagers,
they're fighting crime. You know, they're doing amazing
things. They bring Jacob in.
You know, the the series goes a couple.
We kind of just did this in in our show, in real life.
We bring Jacob in. He's sort of the new, new
partner and he's he's learning. You know, he's learning on the
flies on the streets, You know, just sort of get getting,
getting through it and I don't know what.
Optimism. Look at those.
Eyes yes yes and the team needed that and then I'm just
professor, you know goofball just amazed by whatever they're.
Coming up with quite emo and that like.
I do look very. No wonder he's not into The
Beatles like he's he's like the My Chemical Romance on repeat.
Honestly, I prefer the stones. Yeah, I'd watch it.
I thought we'd get a Charizard. I mean that is got to be that
that needs to become official branding of of the show where
where we start launching those. I mean we'd have to teach Mike
though is the issue. Well, yeah.
We also need to memorize the evolutionary stages, which we
were saying wrong for a long time.
I got. I got to be honest, every time
you guys do that bit, that is like.
Wait, you didn't play Pokémon? Absolutely not.
Dude, it's The Beatles of Game Boy games.
Yeah, I was going to say that's that.
You want to talk about found? You know how much, how much
younger Jacob are you than Pat and I?
Well, aren't I think I'm like, as much younger than you than
you are to Pat. I'm 32.
Are you 28? Right.
OK, so you might, you know what I maybe.
It was kind of like, it's like a.
Char Charmander charge, isn't it?
Aren't. You.
Well, I was going to say, you might have missed it.
The Charizard I, I, I don't know that's.
The word I literally don't know. I know that's a Charizard.
I know that's a Charmander. Is there another char?
Yeah. Charmander, Charmelion,
Charizard. Char Broiled.
Char broiled, Yeah. That's if you lose.
It's perfect because Pat to me is the same four year age
difference. I mean I I'm I'm post hype
Pokémon to. Be fair, I am not.
My only awareness, hang on, you're breaking up was going to
a a nice restaurant in Buffalo one night and coming out and
seeing like 100 people with their phones looking around in
the grass. For some, that was Pokémon Go of
some sort of thing they were doing.
Pokémon Go to the polls. It just OK, if I were younger,
I'd probably love it. Let's go.
So risers this week mean before we get too specific, what what
are Pat? What are you seeing in in the
streets here this week? There's not been a lot of news.
Yeah, Malik neighbors it feels like is legitimately rising a
little bit. I saw him go now you know, it's
one weird draft, but I saw him go like one O 3 and you know,
I'm like, I'm I'm open to take him like a spot higher.
I would say his floor got better.
You know, like if if the they get a rookie, the rookie stinks
or you know, they don't get a rookie like the least Jameis
locks in something. So I'm I'm generally with a
small rise. If it gets a little more.
I mean, there is part of me that wants to be like, you know,
Jameis isn't playing right, Like they're going to find another
quarterback. But it does at least the floor
was was horrible before and now it's actually the floor is kind
of fun in a way. The floor is fun and he can
catch 130 passes if Jameis does somehow start 17 games.
At least. It's I mean, it's going to be
awesome, right? Like, I don't know, I think I
said it. He's going to have the he's
going to have the world's greatest four games of all time.
And then Jameis is going to get benched and then and then it
doesn't matter. So I don't know, I'll still take
Malik Neighbors at any ADP, probably because he's awesome,
but I don't think we should be boosting him that much for a
quarterback who's definitely not going to be throwing the ball in
the fantasy playoffs. He got like 8,000,000 total
guaranteed over two years. Like, that's right.
I don't think they have any intention of starting Jameis
Winston, maybe even in Week 1. Hear me out, hear me out because
this could, this could actually play out in such a way that the
the Jameis Slappy's win. The Titans say we're not, we're
not trading, We're not doing any of this.
We're just taking Cam Ward. We're not, we're not.
It's not open for debate. We are taking him.
It's done. That's happening.
The Browns. Take Abdul Carter.
The Cleveland Browns say, you know what?
We are the largest. We are.
We are the saddest thing on the Northern American land mass and
we are. We are tired of that.
Please just let us do anything else other than be what we have
been. Let's take Shader Sanders.
This show always comes back to it.
This show always comes back to a Browns pain tolerance threshold
discussion every week. I will say, whenever you do
stuff about the draft, the second you're like, I don't
know, I don't think Shador goes to the the comments explode.
It's good for engagement. You know that you get a lot of
like what? What's up with the Shador hate?
This is ridiculous. People really do think he's, you
know, he's worthy of going to. I tend not to think he's going
to. There is, you know, he provides
a potential escape hatch for a team that, you know, is is so
screwed by this contract at the Watson contract.
So I kind of, I kind of get it. I wouldn't do it.
I would take Carter or Hunter. But yeah, I mean, I guess.
But you can put that the other way that the the Watson contract
precludes you from taking advantage of the shudder rookie
contract. Like I, I would just, I would
just ride out this Watson situation organizationally, but
I I understand it's different. If I, I think that's a better
move. Yeah, the motivation.
It's a it's a better move, but it's just like you're just like
then you're just so let's say they do take Abdul Carter.
You are just basically signaling, my God, we just don't
care. Like none of this matters.
You're all, it's an exercise in futility.
Every Sunday. Your jobs don't matter.
Your performance doesn't matter. You're you're all here basically
as mercenaries. It's, it's no different than
than going into the coal mines every day.
You know, it's just like I'm just here to do my job, man, you
know? That happens sometimes.
I mean, there are lots of teams of.
Course it does. Yeah, but I don't know you.
You have an out. You have the second pick, you
have an out. It's just tough with like
anytime you're like I'm going to take this quarterback that I
normally wouldn't take over like a blue chip edge.
Or because shudder is not that good?
Yeah, or like a generational wide receiver cornerback hybrid,
Like, yeah, give me those guys. Like that's not shade to
shudder. That's that's those guys are
amazing. Sorry, they also have the 1st
pick in round too, and there might be somebody they like just
as much as Sanders, you know, whether that's Milro or Dart or
whoever that might be. I think that'd be my plan if I
were Cleveland. But how about?
The I don't think Dart will be there but but I.
Dart Dart will not be there. Have you guys seen this?
Much. Not sure Tyler Tuck is going to
be there. Oh, OK, you'll be.
There we are actually banned. Tyler, Tyler, Chuck.
Chuck is banned. I'm not sure Jalen Millroy will
be there. Have you guys seen the Jalen
Millro hype? This is what happens every year.
This is what happens. So the the Jill Millro hype
basically is the Steelers beat writer saying we don't think
Dart is going to be there and Jill Millro what is he if not
shitty Justin Fields basically. Oh.
You mean the guy they didn't resign even though they easily
could have? Absolutely not.
No, I, I'm. I reject that.
I don't. Think well, they I just think
you you can trade too. Cleveland should do better than
Quarterback 5 with the first pick of the second round this
year. But this is what happens every
year the the QBs get hyped, you know, like last year we had it.
We had what Ben Solak, who I like like days before the draft
guys, Knicks and Knicks are not first round picks, OK, they're
not first round picks. Both I was top 12.
I I felt the. Same way so you know.
Normally it I. Thought, but last year's the
outlier. Right.
I think last year's the outlier. Yeah, normally when people don't
like them. Sorry, go ahead.
You people are going like pendant hooker might go in the
1st and it's like Nope. Like Matt Corral's going in the
first, Desmond Ritter's going in the first, Jimmy Clausen is
going in the 1st. Ryan Nassib was my all time
favorite one that that happened with and they ended up being a
7th throne pick. Oh yeah, because Buffalo.
Was going in the 1st. For a while, Buffalo had just
hired Doug Marrone, the Syracuse coach, and Nassif was his
quarterback in Syracuse and they needed one.
There was no obvious answer. Geno Smith, EJ Emanuel, and we
talked about Nassif last year. In fact, Dart was like McCarthy
even not even Knicks or Pennix. But McCarthy was like is in late
March last year, we'll be debating whether he was a first
round pick and then you know, he came in on top of both of them.
So. That's right.
Yeah, he's more than McCarthy. And we also did this with, you
know, with Shadour and Cam, like the if you were following big
boards, like right after the season and stuff, they were both
kind of outside top 20s a decent amount.
And Shadour's been outside. I mean, you could find top 20s
he's outside of now. So it is, you know, it, it's
natural that these guys rise up. But what typically happens is
some guys are like, they sort of pass that test.
And then once you're like a potential franchise quarterback,
it's it's like, well, what's the difference between, you know,
taking them 7th and taking them 15th?
Like let's just get our guy, right.
But if you're not our guy, then you tend to fall like a while
there's not like usually that many second round quarterbacks
or third round quarterback tends to be more like fourth round
that people kind of circle back. Well, Davis, your scenario about
the Giants is is at least realistic and just the like if
Sanders were to go to what then? And just the it's.
It's not crazy, like I don't think it's the most likely
thing, but it's it's certainly not crazy that the Giants could
be shut out of trading up for Cam Ward and unable to select
him at 2. Now.
I think, I don't know if I had to say, I'd say it's like 64%
likely that Shooter Sanders is a Giant at pick three.
I mean, the dude wore New York Giants cleats at his bowl game.
Like, it's, they're not hiding it.
It's not. Dion said it how his dad said it
too. It it's very likely to happen,
but it's, I mean, the Browns have been involved, the Browns
that did a workout with him like it's, it's certainly not
impossible. No, and just like the the irony,
the whole narrative on the Giants has been, OK, this is the
team where the coach and the GM like kind of really need to win.
This is this, this is careers, jobs on the line.
And it's Jameis Winston being the quarterback.
They spin the wheel, the guy they end up on to save the
coach's job is, you know, 30 touchdown passes, 30 picks.
Jameis Winston just a a a a an homage to that.
That one game last year where he threw for 497 against Denver. 3
touchdowns, 3 picks. I mean, what, what a night that
was. Fantasy Dreaming.
I mean, I, I think I'd rather have James than Aaron Rodgers if
I have to save my job this year. Like Aaron Rodgers definitely
getting me fired. Like that's just a lock.
There's no way I'm screwed and it's gonna hurt my reputation
after I get fired. Yeah, Diana Rossini reported
this morning that like without an 8-9 win season, they're all
gone. Dabel Sheen, they're everyone's,
everyone's fired. That's why.
That's why they wanted Rogers. I think you win more games with
Rogers than Jameis for sure, right?
But how many times, how many times do I win 10 games and keep
my job? I think I want, I think Jameis
is my guy in those scenarios, you know, 'cause if you win like
9 or 10 games with Jameis, it's like, OK, yeah, that's a
coaching achievement. If you win 9 games with Rodgers
they might be like wow. You couldn't get more than nine
games out of Rodgers and you're going to have a a bad year.
It's going to be a bad year of your life.
Well, yeah, you, you have Aaron Rodgers.
Like no matter how many games you win by Week 6, Diana Rossini
is like I'm hearing that Brian Dabel sucks and is actually bad
at his job and like and it's rude, mean and dumb.
Like, yeah, he wore Bluetooth headphones.
One day it was over. I think I, I, I don't know,
they're probably going to draft Shadour and then that kills the
Jameis end of the season dream. But and then and I, how do they
go into the season with Jameis? I think for us, we, we probably
hope for Rodgers and then he gets benched and yeah, they're
going to get fired, but they go out in a blaze of glory and
that's kind of your, your fever dream with neighbors.
What do you think? Well, like, like what do we
think happens if they go with Jameis and Shudur?
I think Shudur just starts week 1 and Jameis is just the backup.
No, I guess what I'm saying is like, how do we get the Jameis?
How do we get Jameis? How do we get Jameis is it?
Possible in injury, Yeah, Yeah. And like late season injury,
because the thing with Jameis, like if he takes over too early,
then then we're looking at Tommy Vito in Week 50.
Yep, if he if he takes over. James could only start in like 1
month in a row right? Like but the Browns started too
early and then eventually they were like we, you know, we can't
keep doing this. I think partially to tank on
purpose, but. Well, also head coaches.
I mean, we know this. There's just nothing that tilts
them more than interceptions. Yeah, just tilt the like 40 of
them. Yeah.
Yeah, right. You know, it is funny, like
interesting. They should have been fired in
that case. It's very strange to me to be
like we need what I haven't been seeing out of my team as as Mara
is an 8 win season. Like who cares man?
Like why is that the bar? That's crazy.
Like why would you install these guys who have the number three
overall pick and be like, what I want more than anything is for
eight games in 2025 to be wins. Like why you're sacrificing long
term for short term mediocrity. It's bananas.
I I liked a ball but if that was the the if that's a thinking
they they should all be gone. Like there's no reason to have a
coaching staff and front office highly incentivized to get to 8
wins at all costs in the following season.
That's right. It's, it's, it's horrible.
Like every time I get in the Giants argument with someone
where, you know, I think I think they too organizationally should
pass on Sanders personally. Someone always brings up, well,
like, yeah, but that's not how it works.
Like if you're Shane and you're going to get fired, you have to
take him. And it's like, yeah, I agree.
But like, no organization should put itself in a position where
your GM is like clearly exhibiting moral hazard, where
like where your GM is like, my incentives are so misaligned
from that of my organization. I'm just going to do whatever I
can do to preserve my own employment.
Like you should already terminate that person or you can
tap them on the shoulder and be like, I promise you, like you're
safe. Like it's hey, I believe in you.
Yes, one of the two. Don't knock on their door and be
like eight wins, Joe Eight wins or you're dead.
Yeah, the comment here, eight wins could be easily out of the
playoffs in the in the NFCS, like, yeah.
So I mean what is the point? I don't know the the Giants have
been bad for a long time. The one fluke year where Dabel
showed up and they won the playoff game in Minnesota.
But really, for a decade it's been like, almost.
Years by the. Way.
Yeah, right. That.
Season. I mean, are they spooked by the
Hard Knocks thing with Barkley? Of course.
Barkley just has an incredible year.
That's that's kind of it, I think.
I mean, we, we basically know this is these rich guys who own
NFL teams just like hate being laughed at.
That's really what it is. These these guys like John Maher
goes to the ownership meetings and everyone's like, you're a
loser dude. And he's like, no one calls me a
loser and gets away with it. Like, life is not really more
complex than that. John Mara is, is a rich man
who's used to being respected, doing well in business, doing
well in life. And for 15 years he's been the
butt of every joke. Like you think, you think Mara
goes like golfing with his buddies and you think they're
not like finish last. Just like your shitty fucking
team, John, you know, Like, you know what I'm saying?
It's really like that. It's really I, I guarantee I
mean you guys have. It's getting bullied out there.
I I guarantee that's what it's like.
I think I would just never bring the the subject of the Giants up
if I were playing golf with I'd probably just like not bring not
bring it up. But yeah, what what was the 1-2
if this counts remember who was it that had a report that his
Carpenter or somebody was leaking that Daniel Jones was
going to be signed was that Silva who had that somebody had
that like a source close John Mayer is some someone doing
repairs on his house had some sort of in Intel on what they
were going to do that proved I think to be correct anyway does
that just. Sound familiar?
Who anybody else on here? I've been drafting Christian
Kirk. I like that.
I like it. Houston for him.
They did the mix and move. Mason, the big mover.
Kirk almost feels like a cheat code where you're like, all the
receivers are gone. Oh wait.
Here's Christian Kirk. Anytime you say the words
Christian Kirk feels like a cheat code and you're playing a
half PPR game. I would just like I'm not I'm
not saying you're wrong, but I'm also not saying you're right.
You know what I'm? Saying it's the Jacoby Myers.
Well, where? OK, Karain, in your mental
model, where are you ranking Christian Kirk after they
selected Mechagbuca with the 24th pick and the 20?
25 They're selecting an offensive lineman.
They they purged their entire offensive.
Line, yeah, I don't think that's happening.
Also, Buca seems to be falling. Your mock draft, I was, I was
yelling. I was just walking down the
street yelling veto as I listened to that.
Yeah. He was vetoing.
He he used his veto. He tried.
We didn't hear you, though. Yeah, Omari and Hampton.
Well, actually before I say that, some of the I would say
Fields, Mason and Kirk are kind of just like AD PS fixing
themselves. Like there's not ever.
We all know why. And I think room to rise,
especially for Mason. I take him ahead of that ADP
pretty comfortably. Hampton is interesting.
This one feels like it's just been like a slow climb, but like
this dude is going first round. He's going first round so.
Might go top 10. Yeah, for real.
Like he was mocked by Todd Mcshay at 10 to the Bears, which
would put him in the second round probably.
You're just like, I mean, maybe not right away, but I think at a
certain point you'd go the Bears drafted a running back top ten.
Why am I taking Josh Jacobs over him?
I mean, I think it's I think it's arguably over 50% chance.
I think it is over a 50% chance that he winds up at one of the
Bears at 10, the Broncos at 20 or the Cowboys at 12.
I would say that's like probably 50 to 60% chance he gets one of
those 3. And I think in any of those
three, he's a late 2 or an early three pick.
Yeah, question about Mcshay's accuracy.
I would say as far as like the market versus Mcshea, give me
Mcshea right now because the market seems to sort of be like
have a stale opinion that he's like a second round pick and the
drum beat on him being a first round pick is loud.
And yeah, maybe 10 to the Bears is hot.
I actually do think it's hot. I don't think he goes 10 to the
Bears, but anytime seeing the guys who are like, you know, got
league sources and doing the tape evals and they're mocking a
running back 10 to one of the best landing spots, I'm like,
I'm going to pay attention, you know?
His accuracy like you don't, you don't want to be right yet.
Like this is not when you want to be right.
You just want to sort of bring up if you're Mcshea and bring up
different scenarios. And do you even need to be right
in this respect on Hampton for that to be good value If he goes
early 2nd? I mean, you do see those mock
drafts too. I do where he's not, where he's
not in the first round still like not not think you're good.
We took Reese Hall in what? Like, where do we take Reese
Hall as a rookie like before, before everybody lost their
minds but Michael Carter, like. About a about fifth round, four
fifth round. Yeah, yeah.
So if he and that was on The Jets, and I mean Hall was a
better prospect than Hampton, I think, but like still he was
Hampton goes early to to a really good landing spot that
that late 4th ADP is totally fine.
Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get like 2 care.
Like part of it is because I think Hall is a better prospect
than Hampton, assuming Bolts draft capital like it.
I think Hall's a second round pick was a better prospect than
Hampton as a first round pick. Like Hampton I don't think is an
amazing prospect. I think he's a good prospect,
but I mean. I think Caleb Johnson have just
freaking run a 448, so we didn't have to do any of this.
I mean, this is like the most tilting thing because Caleb
Johnson's just like clearly a better running back than Amari
and Hampton. So couldn't, could you have just
like, I don't know, man, just like done some jumping jacks for
a week and got into a 448I. I'm just like actively tilting
that we have to do this. But Hampton.
But Hampton's like the perfect scenario because the stuff that
I'm not convinced he's good at is the stuff that doesn't matter
that much for fantasy, frankly. Like, he's he's big, he's fast,
he catches passes. I'm not convinced that he
necessarily excels in the subtleties of the game, but the
NFL is they're taking him Round 1.
So that's like fine enough to me.
Like he he's even compared to Johnson, like he's a more
fantasy friendly prospect than Johnson.
He's. He's he's much more fantasy.
Friendly than Johnson, a much better receiver.
Like I'm I like. If the NFL is going to be all in
on Hampton, I don't really see a reason why I should be like
sticking my nose in the air about it.
I completely agree. And I also think like from the
ability to contribute right away, it's kind of like where
you're like really splitting hairs, you know, like if it's in
dynasty, I think maybe there's more I I would feel more
comfortable kind of getting into like, well, he's not as good a
prospect of this guy. But like I.
Don't know if I'm going to have to pay a third or fourth round
pick for a guy who's got immediate opportunity with
really strong drive capital. I'm I'm into that and right now
I'm paying an early fifth round pick.
I guess he just got into the late 4th, but like God, he's I
think still just a clear target. He's going to move up after the
draft. Like it's possible he doesn't.
It's possible he lands in a bad spot, but.
Where would the bad spot for Hampton even be?
The only one I could see going to a bad spot is Genti if he
gets to 49ers because Kyle is just the type of guy who would
do that. But Hampton is not going to go
to a timeshare spot. Hampton is.
Hampton is only. I mean like what if the Saints
took him? Which would be super dumb, but
bad stuff always happens in the draft.
Yeah. There's always, like, what?
You know, like, no, you're not the team.
You don't. Get the running the yachts, take
him at. 20, yeah. Seattle sharpening.
I mean the Seahawks taking sharpening was was nuts at the
time and it's been has proven nuts.
I mean, it doesn't make any sense.
It's such a bad use of second round capital to take a backup
running back. But I don't know, teams do weird
stuff so I wouldn't rule it out. It's just that I think in the
vast majority of outcomes, this dude's moving up after the
draft. You do have the teams we
mentioned. LA would be another, Chargers
would be another one. It's a small handful of teams
where it's wide open. You would think otherwise.
Well, Chargers less so than a month ago before Naji, but he
would still probably ask. Naji with as a first round pick.
Naji is a backup like. He just has some.
What about the what about the Texans round one that that I
think would be maybe really fun late season but probably really
annoying early season. What about your lineman?
Well, maybe they would think,
you know what we don't, we don't, we don't need to take a
lineman because we're, we're never going to pass the ball.
So we'll just, we'll just run the ball out of our, we'll run
through our problems. Not great for my Christian Kirk
bags. Yeah, I mean, like something
like that would be. And you could talk yourself into
it organizationally. You have a succession plan, a
running back, which you never need and shouldn't put in place.
But like, you know, yeah, I know maybe that you want that.
So what about the Chiefs? That's awesome.
Davis, how high would you take him on the Chiefs?
That is a bad question to ask the the the correct question is
where should the market take him?
No, no, no, that's not the question I want to know.
The answer You like your Beatles or do you respect The Beatles?
I asked you a question. I mean, I would take him.
I would take him as the running back nine.
So where Jacobs is going? Not, not one.
Yeah, that's that's wrong. Actually, the answer is that you
would take him running back 7. Well, running back nine, he
wouldn't get to Running back nine, he wouldn't.
He he would not get, he would not get ahead.
Of I don't know, Davis, you do a lot of drafts.
You're making, you're making some compelling.
You're making some compelling. I mean, The thing is, is they
would have to remove to for you to feel really good about that,
about Hampton on the Chiefs. They would have to remove Hunt.
Yeah. I mean, because, because.
Well, Woody though, because I was like, oh, they're yeah,
they're gonna they're gonna send Hunt on his merry way.
And they didn't. He did.
He did sign. I thought he would.
I thought this would be a McKinnon situation where it
would be. Oh, if they, if they, we.
Have you on speed dial? We have you on speed dial.
I didn't think it would be March 15th plan out.
We'll see it. We'll see in four months for
camp Buddy. Yeah, they they, they self
scouted that Pacheco tape and they they use the speed dial.
Well, yeah, I mean, I think frankly, I think they probably
hope that none of the guys they just paid have to play for them.
And I hope they think, like, I think their plan is we're going
to take a guy on Day 2, we're going to get him into camp, and
we're going to really hope for the exact opposite of the
Clydeburg Tulare experience. So this guy comes in and he's
awesome. He learns the offense quickly.
He does everything we want. And you know, basically Pacheco,
Hunt, Mitchell, you know, thanks for your.
Who? Who would you be most excited
like as a day? Let's even say like round three,
round three, Chiefs running back, Who?
Who would you, Harvey, give them, right?
That's what Harvey Harvey or Neil Harvey or Neil.
I was going to standing staff would be a really great.
Fit. Seems to be fun.
I I think Harvey's even more fun because of the pass catching.
Yeah. Yeah, Giddens, tooten.
Giddens would be fun Tooten would be fun.
Giddens, get the. Local you get the local angle.
Honestly, Scataboo would be fun on the Chiefs.
Oh, you'd just raid on the Chiefs, Yeah.
I mean, yeah, Carson Steele with a little bit of extra juice, you
know? It's like a more than leaving.
P ride would be last year like where it's like you got a big
guy, he's gonna catch much passes.
The big, big McKinnon, Yeah. All the job is like if they
actually drafted Marion Hampton in the first round, there's
going to be a Davis Maddock stream where it's going to be.
He's going to be on the board to like pick 14 and he's going to
be like, well, I know he's not getting back to the 3-4 turns.
Yeah, dude, he's not. A Davidson of the fabric of this
team. Davis would just treat Derrick
Henry as Every time I see Derrick Henry, I draft a Marion
Hampton on the Chiefs. That's facts.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly.
Right. A Marion Hampton on the Chiefs
would eliminate the need to differentiate the portfolio with
Henry. Yeah.
Everywhere there we we got there, he said he was taking RV
9 for. Me here's here's it's August.
It's August 14th. Christian McCaffrey has nothing
but positive reviews about health.
He's like, oh, did I feel great? He plays in a preseason game.
We get a, we get a McCaffrey reception in a preseason game,
like a 13 yard little, you know, scamper.
He's like, I feel great. Purdy signs a contract
extension. You know, we, we every like all
the vibes are good, right? Piersall has got his new number.
Everyone feels happy. Where are you taking McCaffrey
relative to Chief Samarian Hampton?
I had a. That hypothetical?
Goes up against this other. A lot of pieces to this.
This is this is this is this is dueling hypotheticals basically.
Wait, sorry, can. You I'm taking, I'm taking
Chiefs, I'm taking CMC over over Chief Samarian Hampton there.
OK. All right.
You're giving me, you're giving me everything.
Swell 49ers, all the CMC. I mean, he was the one-on-one
last. Last was that the only
hypothetical about CMC is that he's healthy?
And he caught a 13 yard pass and everything.
'S going great. He caught a He caught a 13 yard
pass in the. Preseason I don't even need.
I don't, I don't even need the 13 yard pass of the preseason.
I I will take Christian McCaffrey over Chief Samarian
Hampton. I mean, I think about it.
You're not going to get a 13 yard preseason or something.
OK, let this will be quicker. Who would you take over Chief
Samarian Hampton? Justin Deckman, what I mean?
What if Jefferson? Running back Davis what?
If Jefferson got traded, reduced back.
Me What If 101. Justin Jefferson 102.
Devonte Adams 103. Joe Thooney, 104.
There's 8 running backs he would take over this guy.
He can't name 1. I mean, frankly, I don't even I.
Think 105 Milton Williams. I think Barclay is a horrible
pick right now. And I'm wondering, here's a
question, This is not even really related to what we're
talking about. At any point will the market
realize that he's a bad pick or will it just he'll just be the
one O 1, one O 2 the whole time? I think he's going to go 1O11O2
the whole time because OK, who has the courage among us to
stand up after the people? Who I don't.
No, I don't. I sit there.
I sit there and. Eat my vegetables.
If Martin Hampton goes to the Chiefs, he might.
I'll tell you what, probably one time in the main event, Carane
will will have like the one O 7 and I'll be like guys, come on,
yeah, some Marion Hampton on the chiefs.
Let's just. Do it.
I took. I took.
Clyde. And you're drafting all You're
going to take a lot more teams with Davis this summer, too,
yes. We are.
Yes, we are. We're going to have a Marion.
On the teams on one of them. Clyde's Clyde's rookie year the
the group of guys that I do mains with we we took Clyde at
the one O 4 once and how that didn't work out didn't.
Work out felt. Good.
Quarter after the opening night. Yeah, the 4th of the week.
Was. Caleb Johnson, who you mentioned
is on the Fallers squad this week.
We could have our fun with Caleb Johnson on the Chiefs, too, but
would not be as high as Hampton. Still a slight drop here and you
have Jordan Whittington back-to-back.
That's rarefied air. back-to-back, Baller.
Yeah. Back-to-back.
Callers. Back-to-back then also Metcalf
maybe was on the list last week as well.
And JSN, is there anything to that other than just sort of
negativity toward bad offense the.
Cooper. Cup it's the it's the Spider man
pointing meme wide receiver room Cooper Cooper Cup Jackson Smith
and Jake, but Jake Bobo sit in a bar.
That's that's the beginning to a joke.
It's not it's not a wide receiver room you want I don't
think yeah. Is Jake Bogle going to play
well? And they probably draft
somebody. Primarily well, and they'll
probably draft someone. Yeah, I think it's not a it's
not a good spot where my fear is that they because Cop is the
more limited player, my fear is they wind up catering to his
needs. And then JSN has to do stuff
that he is a lot better at the Cooper Cup, but maybe not what
he actually does best. And he ends up having to play
that sort of intermediate deep role.
Normally it wouldn't matter, but like I assume they're going to
run so many sets with two tight ends or with a full back that
they're they're going to only have two wide receivers on the
field a lot, which I thought was part of the reason why they got
rid of Metcalf. But then they go and they get a
guy who can almost only play in the slot at this point in his
career. So I don't know, it doesn't make
a whole lot of sense to me, but I I don't know that it's going
to be that bad for JS NS fantasy value.
Like I'm I'm more concerned about like the Seattle offense.
Yeah, generally from like a real life standpoint.
Me too. From a JSN fantasy standpoint,
like he's still going to get a bunch of targets, I think he's
going to be fine. Yeah, it doesn't.
I mean, yeah, the the design of the offense doesn't make a lot
of sense. If this is kind of the final
iteration, maybe they maybe they get somebody in the second round
or something. I do like the savior restrepo
idea as just get the slowest, slightliest wide receiver cooler
out there. But yeah, I'm I'm concerned.
About available David Bell, Yeah.
Tyler Boyd I think literally is available.
You could. The contract for Darnold, the
ability to move on after the year and the potential for this
to kind of all go down is like a failed experiment like. 50
sacks. Yeah, I mean, Darnold behind a
weak interior offensive line is a bad idea.
And that is what the Seahawks are going to do this year and
they can get out after the season.
But we could be talking about other people getting out like
they the defensive hire who fires Zocia, you know, after the
season. And it was after his first
season and he should be safe. But if this implodes down the
stretch, we could just be talking about them cleaning
house, you know, I just, you know, that's a tough spot to be
in as you're if you're hoping for week 17 fantasy points.
That's what makes the move kind of Arnold.
Is that he can Chuck it deep, right?
Like that's the fun is like he has a great arm and you can
throw these deep intermediate passes.
And it's like, well, we're going to, we're going to draft a bunch
of wide receivers who specialize in running 8 yards.
Yeah, you guys ever heard of Marquez Valdez Dantling?
Oh right, the new I literally forgot he existed.
The new Rashid Shaheed. I mean, it's going to be week 7
and they're going to be playing him more routes than Cop when
they realize like for sure, yeah, generation of their
offenses. I think they might be planning
to do that like the. World Bill NVS.
People forget. People forget.
They do forget. Let's talk about the running
backs. Between just arbitrarily we
decided 25 and 35. I'm often getting to this, like
a lot of people, I'm sure you get to round eight or nine and
you've got four or five receivers, a couple of running
backs. Taking quarterbacks?
Yeah, like because some of these options are just that
unappealing. We got a few slides here, Pat,
if you want to just sort of like move, move as the conversation
moves to guy to guy. But some great work here by
Zach. Again, overall strategy like you
said quarterbacks already, Davis, I mean, is this a, a
group where you feel like you can, you can afford to avoid?
Yeah, I mean, so DeAndre Swift can only kill you if the Bears
add no one, which they're probably not going to do.
Frankly, I don't really see any way that, yeah, ETN is at best
in a timeshare with a guy who's better than him, and maybe they
take someone. Pacheco.
We just went over that. Brian Robinson.
Junior will probably be what he's always been, but with some
chance of added competition in the draft.
You know, Karain, I'll let you speak on Jalen Warren.
These, these guys feel to me all like all of them are so insanely
fragile. Like each and every one of them.
I'm like this, this some of these guys could if, if the
Bears take, let's just say, for example, the Bears take Hampton
or Gente. I mean, DeAndre Swift gets
drafted maybe? No.
He'll get drafted, he'll get drafted, but then he's like
Penny Gainwell or whatever, right?
I, I dispute that. I mean, I think Warren is one of
these things, is not like the other, like Warren's been a
fantastic running back in all the stuff that we love.
And that's why they've always. No, I know that every.
I know that. I know that everyone.
Is. Like, are we just, are we not
allowed to have dreams anymore? No 2024 killed all the dreams
buddy. I don't know if you watched.
It I I know that it's open. In Canada.
Like you know you. See these eyes?
You saw those eyes? This Pokémon eye?
It's filled with hope. Yeah, like I, I don't, I, I'm,
I'm unburdened by what has been. I, I, I think I look at Warren
and it's like they don't have a second round pick.
All I have to fade is that Omarion Hampton goes before they
have a chance to take him in round one, which seems pretty
possible. I think the Broncos are going to
come through for me. They're not going to take anyone
else at 21. They can't take anyone in round
two. And I will absolutely back Jalen
Warren to be better than any running back that they drafted
round three or later. I I.
Have then, then Damien. Marbles clicking the shit out of
Jalen Warren. Yeah, I liked it.
There's a lot of guys that I like.
I like Damian Martinez. But like if you're if you're
giving me Warren with the advantage of incumbency as a
running back who for the two previous years to his injury
field year last year was consistently cranking out top
five rates in all the advanced metrics we care about yards
after contact miss tackles force like who has legit 215 LB size
is a pass catcher probably the best pass blocking league
running back in the league in a regular rotation like that's
that's a bad. I massively want to make like
what what if they what if they don't even take a running back
until day three? That's conceivable.
I, I think all the downside risk is priced in here and I'm.
Buddy, I promise you, I promise you all the downside risk is not
priced in at running back 27. How how is he?
How is he going any later outside if they take a running
back in round one? I I I don't understand how he's
his ADP isn't rising in any in every single other scenario.
That he's Aaron Rodgers, who runs the slowest offense in
football's third down back, and he.
Yeah, Aaron Rodgers running backs are historically very bad
for fantasy. They're awesome for fantasy.
Aaron Rodgers been a running back goldmine his whole career.
Do you really want Breese last year?
He's fine. Well, I mean at first round what
I have what I have. Taken cost No, but.
Year last year in round 8. Yeah, you.
They would have been an absolute smash.
Yeah, I mean, it's a deep enough running back class that if they
were to take like a Quinshaw Judkins in the, I guess they
don't have a second round pick. To your point though.
Sorry, a small after I talked about Warren with the vintage of
benefits of incumbency, he said. What about the global anti
incumbent environment? Also got the second round
tender, it's a good sign. That is a good sign.
And I mean, they, they, they wanted to keep him.
Don't get me wrong. It's not, I'm not saying like,
oh, Jalen Warren's the worst pick on the board or anything
like that. But it's very easy for me to
imagine Jalen Warren going the way of, you know, James White,
basically. The thing about if they wanted.
To keep Warren, Naji Harris got $5.25 million and they said not
matching it. See you later, go to LA.
Yeah, they they don't want. They know he sucks.
They decided he wouldn't be back before last year started and
they didn't pick up the option on on Harris.
Well, I mean, Harris got plenty of run because Warren was banged
up all of last season. I think that's part of the the
upside with Warren is that there's, you know, he he
struggled through injury, didn't really look like himself for
much of the year, kind of looked better down the stretch a little
bit. Never never turned in the
season. I was hoping in terms of the
advance stuff, I just, we are kind of leaning more on, I guess
one like if you're going to make the Warren Bear case a little
bit like you are leaning more on two years ago from the advanced
metrics than last year. And you're kind of explaining
you're sort of hand waving away a bad season from a guy who was
a UDFA. And with these guys, because
they don't have the pedigree, it's like they kind of always
have to do it or they risk getting replaced.
And so I just, I wouldn't be surprised if they were to, you
know, to take a Hampton in the first round or something.
And. This.
This is not an an anti Jalen Warren take that I'm proffering.
It's just a, you know, basically this is just kind of what
happens with NFL running backs. Like how how many examples of
running backs do we have that we put in this bucket?
Us as in the nerds like these, like secret superstars, these
really efficient guys that catch passes, they break tackles, they
do all these things like how many guys have we wish casted?
Antonio Gibson. But.
He's not and he broke his ankle. He proved last year that we were
right all along. Like I know been right in 2023.
He just. Now if I can.
If I what I, what I would say, what I would say just on that
is, is like part of the reason I was so in on Warren last year is
that like these types of like of opportunities at the running
back position. They do happen, but they tend to
be somewhat short lived where like a guy is showing a lot of
juice and then you. So you like this dude showing a
lot of juice unexpectedly. I'm in now.
I'm not going to be in necessarily two years, three
years from now. So the fact that Warren's coming
off the bad season makes me a little bit nervous.
However, he is an elite pass blocker and he's also the
receiving back. So like that role to me and this
by the way, although this is a deep class, No, it's not.
So if they were to take scataboo, that would really suck
for him 'cause like he kind of is, he's like little scataboo.
So, you know, but outside of that and outside of a first
round pick, we're talking about guys who pair quite well with
him. Like a Damian Martinez would
pair. Damian Martinez is a big is a
Naji. Yeah, he would love him, but
he's not going to be out there on passing downs.
And Warren's the type of dude who if you get the first down,
you leave him on the field a lot of the time.
So I think forming a committee, you know, I see the bear case a
little bit, but I think he's, he clearly is a better bet than a
lot of these guys on the Siamese.
For one thing, he's going ahead of a lot of these guys.
So the market agrees. The point I wanted to make on
this general group is I want upside.
Like I, I agree Davis, that all these guys are fragile,
including Warren, because we don't know what's going to
happen in the draft, but give me the upside.
I think ETN stands out a little bit, especially because of where
he's going. He.
I I thought he was. Really good two years.
Ago. I like Tank, too.
I like both these Jacksonville backs.
I'm optimistic on that team. I mean, we just saw them have a
boatload of running back points last year.
I like. Pollard What if Ward is?
Good. The scheme coming into
Jacksonville? Tony Pollard What if Ward Ward
is good? What if Ford is good?
Yeah, I mean, so I wanted to come back to that ETN thing real
quick. Crane, was he was he good two
years ago or did he just get a lot of volume two years ago?
Because in my memory it was kind of, it was kind I and I had his
PFF stuff pulled up earlier. In my memory.
It was, he was good for like 8 games and then became a real
volume grinder. That might be right.
He was terrible. Last.
Year. His advanced stats were really
good three years ago. Three years ago, then he was.
And then he was good for fantasy two years ago.
Oh, that's right. And then yeah and then he was,
yeah, his advanced at all in any capacity last year.
This is UTS. I'm saying this I'm getting less
into the bet but. Yeah, no, you're right, Jacob.
He he was bad in rush yards ever expected in 2023 as well as
2024. He's really good in 2022.
They wore him out. Both years, 22 and 23, they wore
him out, Peterson admitted. It Like we had to space out his
workload but last year they were so bad.
Freaking Liz Frank injury as a rookie.
I I think with ETN though, like he's still more versatile and
can like Bigsby is just a straight up early down power
back that that he's a true 2 down back.
And again, this is a class with a bunch of early down runners in
it. So if they were to draft
somebody, they would probably be competing with Tank Bigsby for
that like early down role. And I think ETN is going to have
a role in this offense. He's also like that pedigree, I
think still protects him a little bit.
You know that he was that first round pick that he used to be
really, really good. A new coaching staff coming in
creative, you know, trying to get the ball in their
playmaker's hands. Like, I think that ETN will be
someone that they at least try to, to work in, in a real role
this season. Maybe they eventually decide
they don't like him, but there's, there's upside,
especially if they don't draft anybody.
And so I, I do take him. I mean, I, I feel like once you
get past pick 100 and you're like, OK, ETN is actually the
handcuff to some other guy. Well, it's like Zach
Charbonnay's about to go in a couple picks and he is
definitely the handcuff. Yeah, that's that's the
challenge in this range, really tough.
But Jacob, can you stay or do you have to leave I?
Can stay as long as you want. I can stay OK.
Long OK, good. I wasn't sure because we do have
our game, but we want to wait until the end as long as Jacob's
gonna be around for it. We also have a depth chart
graphic. Pat that's super good.
The cuck chair is mentioned. Cuck chasing Puck chasing Jacob
Chickering 8 years 72 million for the Capitals Get our hockey
quota we. Go live, we go live to pack the
rain for slots. Etienne Chickering, you know the
lot of them. Great, great chart here showing
Tyrone Tracy. We didn't get to at the top of
this list. With the time, he's a dangerous
pick. I think he's a dangerous pick.
Yeah, it's yeah. That he actually sums up like
what I was trying to get at before with the upside thing is
like with ETN, I'm trying to think what offenses like when I
look back and I'm like at the end of the season, why was I
letting this guy fall outside the top 100 picks.
The Jaguars lead running back is like a pretty obvious I I'm
interested in the Jaguars offense.
I think they could be a really good offense.
The giants like committee running back.
It just feels like a less of a a guy who burns me.
Given sort of general sentiment on the Giants.
I mean, we're thinking it's probably shoulder Sanders like
leading, you know, a rookie quarterback leading the team at
the end of the season. And is this an offense we're
going to be like gutted not to be heavily invested in?
I I kind of struggle to see that the swift honestly, swift
because he goes so late. I've started to take a little
bit. I was I was completely out on
him when he was like in the, you know, 100 range.
But as he goes to like if you get him at like 125 or or later,
I want to be into into the Bears offense.
They have not yet drafted a running back.
You know, it could be that they take they take a Caleb Johnson.
If they take a Caleb Johnson, Swift's actually in a pretty
sick role other than. Like not being good?
Definitely. Other than not being good in Ben
Johnson, having faced him out previously.
You'll think that when they take Caleb Johnson with their first
second round pick, but then when they come back and take Trivia
and Henderson with their other second round pick, that's when
you know it's over. That's a good point.
No I honestly hate clicking him but I do you know if he falls
far enough. I'm just trying to think like
all these guys are fragile, all of them feel gross, but who
actually has like upside, you know, to be part of an offense
that we want to be in who, you know, can, who recapture like an
explosive form Pollard. I I basically don't take right
'cause I'm like, what am I the Titans offense?
Is that going to, is that going to be what burns me this year?
I mean, I guess Cam Moore could be really good.
They're going to draft a power back.
There's reports that they look at Pollard and Spears.
They like both, but that they they've decided that they no
longer want to placative running backs.
They want a complimentary running back.
And so they're going to add a third, apparently this this
draft. Aaron Jones could still be Aaron
Jones, by the way. Yeah, I don't mind Jones.
It's just you feel like you're like hanging on for dear life.
You really do you. Take Aaron Jones.
Tracy is 1 where like what's really the difference between
Tyrone Tracy and Jerome Ford? Like to me, like it's like
they're, they're both probably going to end up having the same
year, like they're going to be. Jerome Ford is a good pick. 1A
in a committee. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
But like, you can get exactly what Tracy is like way later
with with Jerome Ford. Totally.
It's just we, we seemingly like pick spots.
It's it's it's the same argument.
We like Jerome Ford is kind of the argument that we made about
like Dowdle last year where it's like Jerome Ford.
Why why have we decided that one guy has no chance?
Yeah. It's just with how deep this
running back class is, any running back who's like
essentially on their own and is not like Saquon Barkley level
talented, like they, they're going to get competition and the
market is going to price at this competition because we react to
everything after the fact. So the only running backs, and I
wouldn't even say the protect, but the only running backs have
a chance of getting through this draft unscathed are the giga
superstars or the guys on teams where there's already 2 to 3
clear running backs, right? Like Jacksonville's a team where
maybe they look at it, maybe they just like ETN and Bigsby.
And so they don't, they don't actually have to add a
legitimate third option. Or like, I really like the Buck
situation where they have Irving and White and Tucker.
Yeah, White, where it's like you have a little bit of protection
where if you already have kind of a mediocre backup.
Yeah. No, I think that's that's
definitely like, I mean the Seahawks, right?
The Seahawks like pretty protected.
Point out that a comment here, the offense you want is
Pacheco's. I I'll say I have taken Pacheco
now a little. I rarely take him, but if he
falls far enough, I'm like, OK, you know the number 2 running
back on the Chiefs because I'm kind of assuming he's the number
2 to someone. You know, they, they, they draft
someone or it's like a gross enough committee that he's
functionally #2. So if he's the number two, that
means they don't, they don't draft anyone because because if
they then he'd be the number 2 to hunt.
I know. Well, that's that I'm not a
Pacheco guy, but at a certain point you're like, I'm getting
the upside of he actually all just was that he was hurt last
year and you get like, you know, he's the he actually is the one
for Patrick Mahomes. Like that's it.
If he's well outside the top 100 picks, it's there is upside, but
he, I mean, he was one of the worst picks on the board for a
long time and he's fallen significantly since then.
Davis What is Kansas City doing with the second pick of the
third round? Tennessee's pick?
Probably. Trading.
Trading back, yeah. Sneed No, I didn't know how they
got it. I was wondering how they got the
second pick of the third round. But Lujarius.
Sneed, Yeah. People, people don't know Tyron
Tracy's 25. Yeah, I, I, I would say with
with like the Tracy thing, it's always helpful for me to like
understand like what I'm paying for.
And with Tracy, you're paying for a second year breakout on a
team that we're not like that interested in and a guy with a
guy who like might have to be going against a rookie
ultimately. So it's like a lot to me.
I'm I love the Jerome Fordcom because I don't have to with
Ford. I'm like, I'm not paying for
anything. Like there is no upside in here
that like afford the player. You're just it's purely the
role. So like anything you get from
Ford beyond, you know, 1B on the Browns is upside, including what
if he's 1A on the Browns, you know?
Right, running back 48. Just want to mention too, on
that chart that says the rest Zach's line because we didn't
have enough carries from Travis Homer to qualify for a spider
chart. We did.
We did just zip through some some spider.
Charts through all of these. Do we do we need to?
Is there any? Oh, these are actually pretty.
Awesome even even color theme by the way, these are.
The charts of the future. All right, so let's go through
this. So, so basically Tyron Tracy is
is just Devin Singletary again, not so great Mason and he's.
Not good. Jones are look, look like they
complement each other pretty well here, you'd say?
Yeah. Yeah.
Elusive rating PFF grade breakaway percentage Some of the
stats here that are being. Success rate, Yeah, analyzed.
We got Paul, we got the Pollard sphere, Star of David there.
That's why they like them both, you know, they they go well
together. Ramandre and Antonio Gibson.
This this backfield is an interesting one because they
should I mean, first of all, they kind of replaced Gibson
last year with like Joe Michael Hasty.
So he's dangerous as hell. I mean, he doesn't need anything
to happen to be useless. Romandre is a little bit safer,
but you know, they could easily replace like he did not look
very good last year. He had a couple of moments, but
largely not not great. And you?
Know that one game they said they were going to bench him and
they didn't. They forgot or whatever that
was, they forgot. To bench him for fumbling, yeah.
Yeah, real master. Class of coaching there.
They really. Forgot to me Gerard Mail just
like was like, yeah, totally. Never mind, that's my mind,
right? Wait, is that 38?
God damn it, who let him on the field?
No, he didn't even realize. After we talked about this,
didn't. You say he's going to bench me.
He's like I did say. That we talked about this, yes,
yeah. Really like what would happen if
Michael Scott coached at NFL team.
It's like the Gerard Mail experience.
It's a new regime so they could eat, but they have so many
needs. Can you see the Patriots not
bringing someone in? Have you ever met Mike Vrabel?
I was going to say except Vrabel is like first position to solve
running back. Yeah, no, you're right.
Like Mike Vrabel's like, look, we haven't addressed the offense
yet. And by addressed the offense, I
mean Trayvon Henderson in round two, and we haven't taken a wide
receiver yet. Or Genti at four.
Could that happen? Literally then.
Could you imagine the draft stream?
Chasing drafts for me when Ashton Jetty comes off the board
at pick #4 would be incredible moment.
I've been like a quasi Patriots fan since they drafted May
because I love that. Arranges doing the surrender
cobra. I would be out.
Am I?
The quasi fandom would be over if they took Gentie at 4:00 with
the number of needs they have. You know, offensive line, you
know. Apologies to your friend Jacob,
but the offensive line is terrible.
So weird. Hey, I've heard it's getting
better. Both can be true.
That is unfortunately true.
ETN and Bixby pair together pretty well here.
Look at these routes. Yeah, run a lot of routes.
Dream Hunt is just better I. See it better Pacheco.
That is rough. I wish I looked at this chart
before saying he was drafted. For the audio listeners we have,
it's basically it's a circle like those combine charts and
then they get these little dots that extend out if you're doing
better, and then they're closer to the center of the circle if
you're doing worse. And the Chiefs chart is just an
Isaiah Pacheco rectangle that is entirely inside of the larger
Kareem Hut rectangle that actually.
Understates how bad it is. It's entirely inside and you
could fit two of them inside of this rectangle.
It's a sideways Washington Capitals logo, somehow.
Yeah, and again, this is like 37 year old Kareem Hunt who was out
of the NFL for a year. By the way, this is PFF grade on
routes, so PFF receiving grade I suppose.
Yeah, of sorts. Cream hunt Long of 20 yards.
Seattle career, Two really good running backs.
I guess that's what happened last season.
Draft them back-to-back in Round 2.
This chart perfectly I mean, that does make you feel good
about the metrics when you see that Zach Charbonnet is
literally just Walker again and that we know that to be true.
Yeah, Robinson Robinson's a dude I'm not really taking because
I'm like what is the upside? Like he's.
We got it last year. That's.
Right. We got it last year.
It's the same. The upside would be the same,
absolutely. One team, fun team to think
about adding a a good rookie. I mean, there are just so many.
When you, when you gave Davis the Chiefs question and rattled
off 5 or 6 names about who might be great there.
Washington, you know, there are other teams where you could have
the same conversation. I talked to Scott Barrett from
Fantasy points last week and we're talking about James Cook
and Buffalo Cook. I'm not sure it's going to get
to a point where it's a holdout, but like just what is that?
And like, you know, I don't even care who you are basically.
What's this point in in the fourth round on Saturday?
You're picking one of these guys.
There's just so many that have real life.
And Robinson, I'm a Brian Robinson appreciator compared to
probably most fantasy players, but it is kind of a waste to
have Brian Robinson there when you have Jayden Daniels.
Like if you have the extreme threat Russian quarterback, you
don't really want like just kind of applauding hammer.
You you want like not the reliable decision maker guy.
You want the fast guy. You want the guy who's going to
be the win more running back, who's going to create those
explosive plays who's get baseball two advantage of the
big lanes. Yeah, like get get someone with
some juice and have some fun. I agree and I've been pro Brian
Robinson. Davis was the the first Brian
Robinson Bowl here, saying coaches were going to love him
back when he was up. Guys like that.
And and they did, yeah, they did.
So I. This is a Brian Robinson show,
to be honest, but we're still it's just like, man, we're
taking on risk with all these guys and to not have much upside
beyond what we got last year, which was good.
But like then he goes back to this range.
You know, we're like, thank you, Brian Robinson.
Go back to where we we're going to put you back where we found
you in ADP. Go.
Back in the box. Go back in the box.
It's just a little. I just want to know that I
actually have that bet again, even if I have to pay a little
more for it. It's just there's a lot of risk
to take on, not not a ton of upside.
Is Eckler dead? Eckler, I take him occasionally,
but I mean we're. We're near the end.
It is another one of these charts where the boxes look
pretty similar. Yeah.
By the way, Jack, Jack's calling me out for drafting Pacheco also
taking three quarter, I think they were JJ McCarthy, Cam Ward
and Chador. I got boxed out a little bit.
I actually timed out on Pacheco there and.
Still counts. Still.
Counts your own rankings. He timed out on him because he
had fallen a lot past ADP. He was the top guy in the by ADP
so. But yeah, Pacheco's not a fun
click. You don't have them set up by
your own rankings. No, I I use ADP in the app.
I have a sidekick I'd like to see kind of the market and then
if the sidekicks help me out with the ranks, then I don't
need double ranks. OK.
Lastly, in terms of the slides, a slide from Sam, who is the
mystery wide receiver. We have Joshua Palmer, Darius
Slayton, both in big money territory this year through free
agency, career yards per hour run, you know, T.
Higgins, T Higgins. That is T Higgins.
He only got the $10 million technically guaranteed.
Now this this asterisk here is sort of important.
It says in games selected by Sam Sherman.
So yeah, I think I'm not sure. I'll go ahead and say T Higgins.
Oh, it's 22 at. One it's 22 at 1:00.
So I I'm assuming those games are the non I I'm assuming
they're the non Cooper cup games probably.
That's silhouette of T Higgins. Well, T Higgins.
Fake outline. Next level.
He heard us say it last week, Davis, How we knew or whenever
it was recently we knew who it was by the outline.
He heard that and he he took it to.
Heart Damn. The great ones are always
innovating, yeah. That's truly an innovation.
I've been an outline maven this whole time to be honest.
Yeah. So finally, we don't have to be
short here if we don't want to, but this idea of mine was we've
talked about like the very end of drafts.
I'm thinking back to a show we did together last year when I
stepped in with the deep end Invitational draft.
And Pat, I remember asking you guys like, who is somebody that
you haven't drafted at all? I mean, that's like July or
August that maybe would give you some trepidation and we can
figure out a way to sort of track this.
I'll certainly keep track. But how to score it round 20 or
as we get to best Ball Mania round 18, that last pick, you
know, regardless of of correlation, I would say
probably just somebody that you think might have, you know, some
real upside picked at the very end.
Let's set an ADP. That's that we can 200
throughout the whole. 202 hundred or two. 100.
Ten, I guess a 200 yeah cuz it gets. 200 and. 16 and.
Yeah, 200 works. 200 or higher. So I'm not the graphic designer
in the in the family, but I do have an Excel spreadsheet where
I'm just going to sort of enter these names as we go.
I'll share that, you know, even if it's embarrassing for me to
do but yeah, so I don't know. Anybody want to start?
I'll do, I'll do mine. I got.
One put it all right. I'll go first, David.
All right, mine. What are we hang on?
What are we trying to? What are we judging this by?
Are we judging this by So once they score?
We, yeah, if we, as we go through the season, guys that
have really like made a difference, come up with some
kind of way to score it just maybe just an eye test thing.
But yeah, we're looking for. Players using the eye test,
that's not going to work. OK, fine.
We're looking for guys that. Are in a competitive game, the
eye test would be good. And I can't share the screen
anyway, but like, yeah, we're looking for guys who are going
to do it. By the eye test, I think I won,
yeah. Well, that's is that kind of how
you did it before? No.
We. Did it to win?
Yeah, but we did it by. We measured, we measured ADP
closing line value. So if you picked a guy who was
going 60 and then they ended up at 40, that was a huge win
because it was done by percentage.
If you pick a guy who's going to 10 and he goes 150, that is
still big, but not as big as, you know, 60 to 30 or whatever.
Well, we'll figure something out, but I I was thinking that
it would be by performance, not just trends.
Yeah. So we're going by points.
We're, we are, we're is being judged by points scored.
Right, with the fundamentally idea being, you know, you're
still shooting, It's still. Yeah, not, not really.
Mania, you're not. You're not playing for the floor
here. Well, you can I guess do what
you want. Not not really in the theme of
the show to try and help people and give good picks.
So it's a little bit of a bummer.
But I know we're we're really going out of the limb here.
Yeah. Well, Dave, do you have one?
Should we do? Should we just do points in week
15 to 17? Sure, but time stamp it points
weeks 15 to 17. Nice and chaotic.
Yeah, I will take Laquint Allen Junior, the leading pass
catching running back in college football last season.
He's Dylan Lauby with some Jews. People are saying more and more
he's he is probably outside of Genti Trayvion and Giddens, the
best pass catching running back in the class, which I, I mean,
he's not going to go day 2, But if a team did take him day 2,
I'd be like, well, I get it, you know, I mean, it's, it's the
more scarce thing. I think it's pretty wide range,
like he could go late day two, he could go like 6th, you know,
but he's. Yeah.
I mean, yeah, he could. He could be a real faller.
Yeah, but yeah, pass catching running back, definitely
intriguing. You think it's better to play
rookies at this early stage for this game than that's?
Well, I'm, I'm playing a rookie. The year's 2021.
All right, there's a team that has future superstar Malik
Neighbors has 28 catches. Future superstar Brian Thomas
has 28 catches. Future NFL or Trey Palmer and
Keyshawn Bute have 30 catches and 38 catches, but freshman
Jack Bash beats them all with 43 catches on the 2021 LSU Tigers.
People hate, I think he's. Going to be a round two pick.
He fits perfectly as the F wide receiver in the modern NFL.
Like there's no player in this class who to me more perfectly
fits for the NF LS going than Jack Bash.
I think he's a very underrated profile based on that beginning
to his career. I also think he passes the eye
test show and going currently outside the top 200.
I think he's he's a guy that I can see going a lot higher and
and having a really strong end of season.
OK. We, we should talk about the the
latest mock draft sort of trends when it comes to the receivers.
I've been seeing more and more often like one in the first
round. Besh had kind of his moment at
the Senior Bowl and was, you know, really kind of that like,
hey, like why why take this guy in the 1st if you can get Jack
Besh in the second guy that that's now Jaden Higgins.
I would say a little bit more from what I'm hearing, like,
look, you know, Jaden Higgins is like your plug in, you know,
arbitrage wide receiver in the second.
I don't think that means Besh is necessarily not going to go
second. I do think he maybe it's
slipping like slightly, I'm just not hearing as much about him.
So I'm wondering if maybe he's a third rounder, but I think he
goes day 2. Kyle Williams, by the way, for
this. Target for sure.
Kyle Williams was just Chris Sims, wide receiver 2.
Chris Sims Chris Sims loves this.
I mean Chris Sims fetish is releasing the worst rankings
you've ever seen and then having everyone yell at it like it's
like, you know that tweet that's like I'm not quote tweeting
this. That's someone who's clearly has
a fetish for getting yelled at. I mean that is that is literally
he does this every year with the worst and and the guy by the
way, he. Kind of hit last year, though,
he had Brian Thomas, the head of Marvin Harrison.
Dude here. Here's process.
He had Roman Wilson in his top five also on that job.
He goes and watches the tape and he doesn't, he doesn't like cut
it with anything. It's just his tape.
Just. Unadulterated tape.
Which frankly respect like I have not like my rankings
include it's some expected draft capital.
You know, that's me saying, OK, let the market can have it say a
little here. You know, it's predictive.
I stand by it as a process, but it is.
It is. I mean, it takes some balls to
just be like, I'm gonna go do one thing and then put rankings
out on that thing. He's like a monk.
He goes into the Tate monastery, He shuts out the entire outside
world. He doesn't know anything about
the stats, He doesn't know anything about the draft
capital. He just he goes into the
monastery, he emerges White smoke.
We're we're mixing several different religions now and then
his rankings, his rankings come out and and sometimes he hits
the beauty of having like multiple preposterous rankings
is that you only have to hit on one and then you can defend him,
right. So it's like, because he had
Thomas over Harrison, no one gets to be like, why is Roman
Wilson in your top five? Like, yeah, right, right.
Yeah, no, he was really in on Christian Watson, which was a,
which was a good take like that. At the time people were not
thinking he was going to go second rounds.
He also was really out on Garrett Wilson and Chris Olavey
in that class. I was in the trailing Brooks
though. So you know, we all have our
misses, but. Do you do you guys think though
that like just paying attention to the MCSHEA stuff and just
draft predictions that it could end up with only one in the
first round? I mean, burden or golden it'll
be. It'll.
Be it'll be two, it'll be golden, golden and Tet.
By the way, there are people who have been historically so
triggered by Chris Simms rankings that you can go and
find them in a Google sheet on the Internet that I currently
have pulled up. My my current favorite from
looking at this is Jeremy Rucker over Trey McBride in in that
class. Just just looking at this very
quickly. Damien Pierce ahead of James
Cook, Roshawn Johnson ahead of Chase Brown.
I, I remember at least a 24 hour period of I think he had Alec
Pierce like it's wide receiver two or three.
And then I remember after the Colts drafted him, I remember
having like, at least a stretch being like, maybe Chris Sims is
right. Yeah, yeah.
Paris Campbell 4 spots ahead of A.J.
Brown in 2019. Just, well, so did Chris
Ballard. Of course, this doesn't include
Travis Hunter, by the way. This.
I I'm pretty sure that we took, I might have the wrong loser,
but I think I remember the Colts were up with a chance to take
A.J. Brown and I knew we were going
to take a wide receiver in that draft.
And we ended up taking, I think it was Ben Banagu or some dude
instead. And then A.J.
Brown goes to the Titans and we end up taking Campbell.
And I was at like a work dinner and I like was like, please
excuse me, I need to go to the washroom.
And then I went to the washroom and then I just, like, grabbed a
bunch of toilet paper and I screamed into it for like a
solid like a minute. Cathartic.
Hopefully. Yeah, it's painful.
Painful. I like that that was your
initial reaction and it is aged as badly as you could have ever.
Yeah, that was weird. I'm not always right on these
steaks, but I remember like that one, I was like very sure that
like we should be taking A.J. Brown and not these other goofs.
I would have been, I would have been OK with Metcalf, but it was
like as soon as we took Paris Campbell, it's one of those
where I was like, this isn't going to work.
Last draft where 1 receiver only went in the first round. 2006
Santonio Holmes last time that happened.
We didn't. We didn't get to play.
Guess that one receiver. Oh, sorry, yeah, no mystery
receiver too late. Where are you guys at on Golden?
Cuz finally have flipped him over.
Burden and Ibuko kind of been like like it's been sort of like
waffling a little bit, like bring him back, you know, back
and forth. There been like all in one group
for a while, but at this point he's passed them.
I think he kind of continues to put distance as we get close to
the draft because it's like very clear that he's going to go
first round. It is no longer clear.
That Ibuka goes first round and it seems like a like burden now
seems like a dog to go first round.
So after the draft we're going to be taking second round burden
over potentially top 15 golden. I I don't think we are.
So I'm kind of like. I don't think golden is much
better than 5050 to be in the first round either.
I think he's like 9010. He's like he's, he's 50. 50 I
think he's better than 5050 to. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, I put it 50 really to be the wide receiver one in the
class, Yeah. I I put more like 7030.
Did he go before McMillan? I I have golden first wide
receiver at I think plus 170, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right to me.
And and he could get like the the landing spots are pretty
good. It's not all of them, but I
mean, if he were to go 12 to the Cowboys, like, that's pretty
good. That feels like a thing that's
happening. So, all right, I don't really
like Golden that much as a prospect, but if we're talking
about a guy going 12 to the Cowboys, he's way too cheap,
right? Like both things can be true.
Yeah, I mean, Rugs won 11 to the Raiders, but yeah, it's it's
worth a shot, right. Like there's, there's an element
of of humility to it that is necessary and you get the
outside and it's going to be a good best ball archetype.
Like I would be way more. My guess is is that I will be
more interested in taking a bunch of golden on the what if
I'm wrong case in best ball rather than taking a bunch from
the dinosaur. Yeah, I agree.
I would rather take the shot in best ball and and hope that I'm
wrong and that I'm wrong in a way that's really exciting for
that format. And then, you know, you, you get
paid off with a few big touchdowns in the in the fantasy
playoffs. I was reading Matt Harmon's
profile on him and he was kind of comparing him to Jordan
Addison as far as the, I think the quality of route runner, not
necessarily exactly the same play style.
But and like, yeah, you know, if you get kind of an Addison level
#2 type of production out of this guy, like with CD Lamb,
that's pretty good where he's going in basketball right now.
If that's the play in dynasty, I'm not that interested because
I think the floor is pretty low. But and if the ceiling is like
he's you know, you get a long term really strong #2 type of
what, you know, a real life NFL wide receiver.
But I mean, yeah, in best ball you could argue he's still he's
like maybe a round or two underpriced.
I mean he could easily be a fifth round pick post draft,
right? Buddy, if he's the freaking 12th
pick to the Cowboys. Higher than that, yeah. 3-4
turn. Yeah, we'll see.
With his underdog screenshots, we'll just be like 37% Chief
Sumerian Hampton, 36% Cowboys Matthew Gold.
I mean golden also would be interesting for.
Sure. No, God, the Packers are not
spending a first round pick on a wide receiver.
Their fans want them to do it. Too bad.
Yeah. They're they're they, they would
just, they would like accept like Nick Nash in the first
round just to show that Goot is taking it seriously.
But like, you know, he's going to be like, you know, we have,
we have Jack Bash at home or, or we have, I don't know who's the
most boring, who's like more boring than Igbuca?
Who who's like the more boring Igbuca?
Xavier Restrepo. Oh my.
God, we didn't even we didn't even talk about this man.
Dude, there were there were there were people, there were
people tweeting yesterday that the hand timers there had him in
the fives. Why run?
You think you? Right.
Like who you been testing at that he thought it was worth it
like he was hoping to get 468. Like what?
What are we? Just don't run.
We'll fill it in optimistically. In our minds.
He's probably 468. Because it's like worse than
could have possibly imagined, right?
Like if he doesn't run, you'd be like, oh man, like he must be a
four six guy. Like Scataboo is coming out, no?
One would have thought he's a four right now.
Like Scataboo just was like, whatever the time is, you don't
get to know it. You'll never know.
You'll never, you'll never know. That's my grave.
But but once scataboo. When he gets in the NFL, he's
gonna be digging that chip out, That GPS chip.
He's like, no, no. We're not discovering my high
end speed. Doctor Rigami is pulling it
right out of his head. Yeah.
Does it kill Restrepo? Yes, he he's, he's undraftable
now. Yeah, he's, he's undraftable.
He's undraftable. You can you can say even like
the most like trust the tape guys on my timeline like like
Ray GQ, who's like a classic, like trust the tape person.
He's like on Twitter being like, bro, that shit's embarrassing.
Like, and it's like he's correct, like crutches tweeted.
There's there's only so much trust you can have in the tape
when you run a 48 like that is. One of your guys?
Is Jarvis Landry and no one else.
Yeah, the .26 Rats, one of the guys.
Well, there are some of the guys.
Juwan Jennings was in the Four Sevens.
Yeah, there's some dude like Steven Johnson ran in the Four
Sevens. Right.
Juwan Jennings was in the Four Sevens and Xavier Restrepo was
not. Some hand timers had him in like
477 he he got OK the the the quickest hand timers.
There's hand timers. Get it together Hand timers 5. 2
is so outrageous. I, I want to say it was Trevor
Sikkima who tweeted that some people had him in the fives.
It, it might not have been Trevor, but someone said they
had him in the fives, which is just like, man, I might be able
to go out and run a 55. You know what I'm?
Saying someone someone had the cop of him to Tristan werfs they
had like the same time. Yeah, I saw that too.
That's good. I'm just picturing your screen
where like they do a tunnel screen to restrepo and worse is
out there blocking. Restrepo and the guard and the
guard he gets. He gets chased down by a
defensive end on a screen. Restrepo technically ineligible
for our for our game. Yes.
Ineligible for our game at ADP of 195.
Wow, I'll. Play together now for long, you
can take it. Next to learn eligible buddy.
Next week I'm I'm jumping on that.
Yeah, he might not be an eligible wide receiver if he's
going to convert to tackle, but he will be eligible for our
game. Yeah, points are points, Jacob.
Points are points. Pat, you have a rookie in mind
for this? I was going to go the veteran
route. Oh, I I was going to go.
Let's see. I'll go.
Will Shipley. Will Shipley chasing.
Oh yeah, I think this is one of the backfields, right, Jacob
said. Who's not going to add anybody.
The Eagles probably unlikely to add anybody now.
They they could, but it'll be probably day three.
Shipley Shipley's, you know, was an somewhat interesting prospect
last year and like, although Barkley proved last year that he
is absolutely elite, the situation is quite good.
It's quite conducive to running back points.
I think if you you were to throw Shipley in there now with
Gainwell gone, Gainwell's in Pittsburgh now, you could be
looking at him turning in some really.
I mean, I could outscore you Did you took Laquin Allen.
I I might need one game in those three weeks from from Will
Shipley to to cover up Harry. Yeah, right.
What are the odds? Eagles out of AJ Dillon.
I'm not too concerned about that.
Gainwell isn't a bad idea here either by the way, I think.
But. Gainwell.
All right, Yeah, for Pittsburgh. Yeah.
They do. Jalen Warren.
Not knowing not knowing which teams are going to stay away
from running back in the draft makes this obviously a huge a
huge guess. I'm going to take Diane Brown
for mine. Got paid in Jacksonville.
We've already you guys have said it today yourselves like the
offense kind of a slept on team slept on player space has been
cleared there. The money better and best ball.
So he'll be my first pick and last call.
We're calling it Diane Brown. Last call, last call for takes.
Ten, $10 million. Right.
That's the prize for winning this game, Yeah.
We'll see if we can raise that GoFundMe for the.
Yeah, that's that's the hope. ADP chasers, get ready.
Tyler. Yes, it is Pat.
What's on tap this week? I just had the second part of my
rookie running back profiles out this morning, so check that out.
Covered Cam scataboo, facial tootin, all those guys, Devin
Neil, Dillon Sampson, RJ Harvey, bunch of bunch of the depth of
this class in detail, talking their best ball and dynasty
prospects to get into the numbers and all that.
So look for that. Michael Dugner had an article
out last week. I highly recommend looking at
the anatomy of a rookie riser at quarterback.
He's going to be rolling out the rest of the positions as well.
Matt Irby's got an article coming out in the next couple
days and I'll have the rest of my rookie stuff and I'll be
streaming later this week. I'm going to do like a Friday
stream doing some drafts with the sidekick if you want to
check that out, and we'll see, maybe do an episode of the
podcast as well. We'll see.
All right, Davis, Jacob, anything good I'll.
I'm going to be streaming some members only stuff on the
channel this week because baseball's about to start, so
we're just drafting some dingers and whatnot.
And I'm also going to have trying another new thing on the
channel, just a bunch of YouTube shorts about these prospects
this week. I was like looking at my data
and like 70% of the new viewers from my channel since January
were shorts viewers. So I'm trying to trying to
trying to feed those people Shorts King Summer.
Yeah. So seeing seeing what we have
there. So that's what I have coming for
you and I. I'm streaming tomorrow with Liam
Jacob. Well first of all, first of all
I will likely not be on ADP chasing for a couple of weeks
because believe it or not I'd I'd pre planned a trip to
Portugal before getting brought on this show so I'm heading on.
A. Otherwise you wouldn't have gone
otherwise. You mean?
No way. Otherwise I'm of course,
otherwise I wouldn't have gone Yeah that clearly the priorities
are are right in order, but long plane ride is going to be the
perfect opportunity to finalize a couple of articles.
So get ready for big prospect dump for dynasty continent.
I'm thinking about thinking on Saturday Sunday, Monday and then
I will see you guys. I mean, you never know if
there's, I don't really know what the time difference works
out to be, but consider me a maybe there might if I have a
free hours point and I'm sitting down, maybe I'll maybe I'll just
hop on the stream, but. Where are you going in Portugal?
I'll let you know. I'm landing in the Algarve and
then in Pharaoh specifically, and then I'm going to Porto and
then I'm heading to the Azores. Nice, nice.
Wait, Pat Porto. Porto's great.
I was guessing maybe you were asking that because the time
zones are going to vary sort of a follow up to what time is
going to be. You want to know where in
Portugal based on what time? I think it's +5 and.
What day are you going to be in Porto?
Just put it in my phone. I think it'll be a three o'clock
Portugal time start on ADP chasing.
If that happens to fit for you, I'll be doing my weekday show
WGR in Buffalo and the Odyssey app Sabre Senators pre game host
tonight Jacob 6:00 if if you want that huge Dylan Cousins
revenge game and I'll be out. Otherwise I'll I'll be out
looking for overs on on Matthew Golden's.
Under underdogs own Josh Norris having the revenge game tonight.
Yeah, injured, injured when they traded for him.
Will not play tonight for Buffalo.
Otherwise, thank you guys. Enjoyed it and we'll see
everybody next week.