1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:04,520 Good morning from Chili Buffalo. I'm Mike Shope. 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,800 Our heroes, Pat Crane in San Diego, Davis Maddock in Saint 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,720 Louis, Jacob Sanderson in Vancouver. 4 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:12,880 Got the map covered, will join me in a few moments. 5 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:16,760 We've got risers and fallers. We've got The Beatles, we've got 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:19,040 running backs, those icky running backs. 7 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,400 The panel may disagree in that 8910 round range. 8 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:27,680 We'll break that down and a new season long game debuts today. 9 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,360 We have to figure out how it works, but we will do that on 10 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:35,440 the fly here as we go. ADP chasing Mike Pat, Davis, 11 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:41,280 Jacob March 25th, 2025 in Underdog Best ball ADP is set by 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,680 two separate yet equally important groups, streamers that 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:47,080 set the market and the slappies that chase it. 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:01:13,800 These are their stories. Still slaps. 15 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:16,840 Still slaps. Still slaps quite good. 16 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:21,960 Quite good. 1st, a tweet that caught my attention yesterday 17 00:01:21,960 --> 00:01:27,000 from Jacob, who asks in a very, you know, polite way. 18 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:29,880 We have it to share, to show everybody. 19 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:34,920 Do you like The Beatles? You know, it's a question. 20 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,120 This is a a very popular trait that people have now or 21 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:42,560 something that is obviously good or obviously important people 22 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:47,840 like actually just stinks. This, this all emanated from I, 23 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,960 I was in a group. I'm, I'm in this group chat 24 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,760 where we're talking like football 24/7 basically. 25 00:01:53,760 --> 00:02:00,280 And you know, one of the dudes, the Patriots fan and he was 26 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,000 arguing at their offensive line has improved versus last year, 27 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,600 which is like one of the funniest. 28 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:05,240 Things. Oh, buddy. 29 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,920 That's true, but like. It is true, but like. 30 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:10,639 But like, mostly meaningless anyway. 31 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,760 And so another dude comes in and he's like, it's getting. 32 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:15,960 He's like, you gotta admit, it's getting better. 33 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,680 It can't get much worse. And the guy's like, what is this 34 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:20,480 a reference to? He's like, it's a Beatles song. 35 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:23,360 And then we go in this big debate and there's like 6 people 36 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:25,120 in this group chat who are like The Beatles Sock. 37 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:26,760 I never listened to them. They're horrible. 38 00:02:27,640 --> 00:02:30,240 It all just gets shattered. My, my like foundation of 39 00:02:30,240 --> 00:02:32,680 humanity. So I think Twitter was with me. 40 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,680 I think they had, I think it was close to 70% in favor of The 41 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:39,240 Beatles. Andrew in the group chat, firmly 42 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,520 in the 30%. So wait, so you you think? 43 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:44,400 I'm pro Beatles. I think The Beatles. 44 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:45,960 Rock Do you like The Beatles though? 45 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,000 Is an interesting way to phrase this question because I think 46 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,200 are The Beatles good? Is an obvious. 47 00:02:52,200 --> 00:02:54,280 Yeah, but I'm not interested. I'm not interested in that 48 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:55,000 question. I'm. 49 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,000 I'm interested in like, are you actively participating in the 50 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:00,400 celebration of a Seminole musical artist? 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,080 Do I have to? Do I have to put them on like in 52 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,280 my free time? Is that a thing I have to do to 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:07,720 participate? You don't have to. 54 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:10,040 I'm not holding a gun to your head, but but if you don't, then 55 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:10,800 I. Yeah, do. 56 00:03:10,920 --> 00:03:13,080 Do you ever? Do you ever? 57 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:16,440 You're in your car? Do you ever put on a Beatles 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,200 song? Yeah, I like. 59 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,000 Time, time to put on Revolver and like vibe. 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:26,680 Yeah, that's the one that I listen to the most probably is 61 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,000 I'll. Do it, but of course. 62 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:33,720 A Beatles song from time to time, yes, but I hope there we. 63 00:03:34,160 --> 00:03:35,360 Go. Of course, I've seen them live 64 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,080 four times, so, you know, it's nostalgic for me. 65 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:44,600 No, of course it's always two different questions. 66 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,720 I could probably think of a terrible movie that most Rotten 67 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,600 Tomatoes, Siskel and Eber, whatever, probably consider 68 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:52,720 terrible. But I like it, you know, food. 69 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:55,440 So what was it like when they came over to America? 70 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,880 Today it was incredible you had you really had to be there Shea 71 00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:02,080 Stadium 1965. I mean, I was there with my kids 72 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:07,080 and that was really is very special night. 73 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,600 I mean, so. To be fair, people will say 74 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:14,320 things. I mean, we, we literally have a 75 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:17,000 hot take artist in the chat. They they, they're music. 76 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,279 Here's. I'm not, I'm not, I'm trying to, 77 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,440 I'm I'm trying to give a reasonable take, which it's like 78 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:26,360 if you put on if some, if we were sitting around and you put 79 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:30,480 on like this is The Beatles Spotify playlist, I'd be like. 80 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,360 I mean, The thing is, is it's just the reason why it's 81 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,400 undeniably good music is that all the music you like, Name 82 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,200 your name your favorite person, you could trace it back. 83 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,040 You'd be like, oh, this your favorite album of all time? 84 00:04:45,280 --> 00:04:48,200 The first time these notes were ever played sequentially was on 85 00:04:48,760 --> 00:04:52,960 this Beatles album. 100% but you could trace their music back to 86 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,760 some like pipe in like, you know, 9000 beats. 87 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:57,160 Well, no, you'd trace. We have to trace. 88 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,200 Your music back to they they stole. 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:00,920 It. Yeah, mostly. 90 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,400 Mostly black people. You want the the stones. 91 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,520 The stones are even better for that. 92 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,280 Go back to the Deep South, the Lou. 93 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:11,240 Zeppelin. I mean, Zeppelin songs are just 94 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,160 like, literal. Like, that's the same song, man. 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:14,880 Yeah. Yeah. 96 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:17,520 You can still love it. Remains the same. 97 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,080 Clearly the name there, that's good. 98 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,760 Here we go. I think it's let. 99 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,960 Me ask this Rolling Stones are Beatles. 100 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:28,040 Beatles. I'm going Beatles. 101 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:30,840 I just that's what I listened to growing up. 102 00:05:30,840 --> 00:05:35,000 Like I think it it depends on what your parents or in shop's 103 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:37,920 case, who you saw first here. You know, whatever you got 104 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:39,720 exposed. My my parents were Beatles 105 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,520 people. Not that I have anything against 106 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:44,280 the Stones, but. Yeah, we're we're a big bill 107 00:05:44,280 --> 00:05:47,960 healing in the comics family. My dad literally did Beatles for 108 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,880 breakfast where like from the age of five I listen to one 109 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:54,120 Beatles song per day at 8:00 in the morning before I went to 110 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:56,200 school and then we just went through the entire catalog. 111 00:05:56,760 --> 00:06:00,040 I recommend that you know, if you if you don't know your 112 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:04,960 Beatles, it's worth, you know, trying on legendary stuff. 113 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,800 So I recommend it. You don't have to have seen them 114 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:11,040 in concert at a long, dilapidated or destroyed. 115 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,840 OK, I think. Would you guys join me in 116 00:06:17,280 --> 00:06:21,280 anointing elevating Zach Lennar's to hero status for the 117 00:06:21,280 --> 00:06:22,200 work? Of course, yes. 118 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:24,080 Of course. Oh my God. 119 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,600 It's getting undoubted. Undoubted hero, yeah. 120 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:31,920 I I don't speak Pokémon, but I still love what he's come up 121 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:34,560 with for today. Boy, boy do Corinne and I speak. 122 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,280 Pokémon I know. What we have spoken. 123 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,400 All I all I will say about this is well, that it's amazing, but 124 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,960 I would I would watch a. Show Mike in the bottom right. 125 00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Yes, yes, it's my YT face. I like how you're not thrown by 126 00:06:49,440 --> 00:06:52,920 this child that is you. You know what? 127 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:57,880 OK, so like I, I actually have, hey, it's happened a weird 128 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,200 amount of times that there's been like animated graphic 129 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,480 images of my face. There's at least two of them 130 00:07:03,480 --> 00:07:06,680 online and they all make me look 8 years old. 131 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,760 Like anytime anyone makes any sort of cartoon version of me, 132 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:12,520 I, I like a I'm not thrown by that at all. 133 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:15,200 Actually, Alex, that's the most realistic one that's ever been 134 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,480 done. I feel like mine would look kind 135 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:20,600 of cool, but then you look at Davis and he's like clearly 136 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:22,000 younger. You look like my younger 137 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:23,520 brother. And then I'm like. 138 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,520 Then you look back at me and I'm. 139 00:07:24,520 --> 00:07:25,480 Like, kind of think of you, Davis. 140 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:29,920 You know, Crane, your hair is not. 141 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,720 If I do, if I did, if I did want to criticize, Crane's hair is 142 00:07:33,720 --> 00:07:36,840 not near tall enough. Yeah, I I should have gotten 143 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:39,520 some spikes, you know, that's, that would have been a good 144 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:41,880 Pokémon look. At least it is already poking 145 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,920 into your square. But whatever this I would watch 146 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:48,040 this show with these with these characters. 147 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,120 I think, you know, Pat and Davis have have been a team for a 148 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:52,080 while. They're you know, they're 149 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:53,680 fighting. They're maybe they're teenagers, 150 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:55,440 they're fighting crime. You know, they're doing amazing 151 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,280 things. They bring Jacob in. 152 00:07:57,280 --> 00:07:58,760 You know, the the series goes a couple. 153 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,920 We kind of just did this in in our show, in real life. 154 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:02,760 We bring Jacob in. He's sort of the new, new 155 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,240 partner and he's he's learning. You know, he's learning on the 156 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,000 flies on the streets, You know, just sort of get getting, 157 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:11,080 getting through it and I don't know what. 158 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:12,680 Optimism. Look at those. 159 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:16,400 Eyes yes yes and the team needed that and then I'm just 160 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:21,480 professor, you know goofball just amazed by whatever they're. 161 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,760 Coming up with quite emo and that like. 162 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,080 I do look very. No wonder he's not into The 163 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,040 Beatles like he's he's like the My Chemical Romance on repeat. 164 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:33,360 Honestly, I prefer the stones. Yeah, I'd watch it. 165 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,240 I thought we'd get a Charizard. I mean that is got to be that 166 00:08:39,240 --> 00:08:43,280 that needs to become official branding of of the show where 167 00:08:43,280 --> 00:08:46,200 where we start launching those. I mean we'd have to teach Mike 168 00:08:46,200 --> 00:08:47,120 though is the issue. Well, yeah. 169 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:50,240 We also need to memorize the evolutionary stages, which we 170 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,240 were saying wrong for a long time. 171 00:08:52,560 --> 00:08:54,040 I got. I got to be honest, every time 172 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,600 you guys do that bit, that is like. 173 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:00,040 Wait, you didn't play Pokémon? Absolutely not. 174 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:01,960 Dude, it's The Beatles of Game Boy games. 175 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,720 Yeah, I was going to say that's that. 176 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,480 You want to talk about found? You know how much, how much 177 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:10,400 younger Jacob are you than Pat and I? 178 00:09:11,560 --> 00:09:15,400 Well, aren't I think I'm like, as much younger than you than 179 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,600 you are to Pat. I'm 32. 180 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:18,960 Are you 28? Right. 181 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,760 OK, so you might, you know what I maybe. 182 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,680 It was kind of like, it's like a. 183 00:09:24,760 --> 00:09:26,840 Char Charmander charge, isn't it? 184 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:27,880 Aren't. You. 185 00:09:27,880 --> 00:09:29,920 Well, I was going to say, you might have missed it. 186 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,160 The Charizard I, I, I don't know that's. 187 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,640 The word I literally don't know. I know that's a Charizard. 188 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,960 I know that's a Charmander. Is there another char? 189 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,840 Yeah. Charmander, Charmelion, 190 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:44,680 Charizard. Char Broiled. 191 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,600 Char broiled, Yeah. That's if you lose. 192 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:51,120 It's perfect because Pat to me is the same four year age 193 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,360 difference. I mean I I'm I'm post hype 194 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:55,360 Pokémon to. Be fair, I am not. 195 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:59,160 My only awareness, hang on, you're breaking up was going to 196 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:02,360 a a nice restaurant in Buffalo one night and coming out and 197 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,960 seeing like 100 people with their phones looking around in 198 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,080 the grass. For some, that was Pokémon Go of 199 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:09,360 some sort of thing they were doing. 200 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:15,840 Pokémon Go to the polls. It just OK, if I were younger, 201 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,120 I'd probably love it. Let's go. 202 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:23,280 So risers this week mean before we get too specific, what what 203 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:24,640 are Pat? What are you seeing in in the 204 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,320 streets here this week? There's not been a lot of news. 205 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:32,200 Yeah, Malik neighbors it feels like is legitimately rising a 206 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,320 little bit. I saw him go now you know, it's 207 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:40,120 one weird draft, but I saw him go like one O 3 and you know, 208 00:10:40,120 --> 00:10:44,120 I'm like, I'm I'm open to take him like a spot higher. 209 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:46,560 I would say his floor got better. 210 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:50,800 You know, like if if the they get a rookie, the rookie stinks 211 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,480 or you know, they don't get a rookie like the least Jameis 212 00:10:56,200 --> 00:11:00,680 locks in something. So I'm I'm generally with a 213 00:11:00,680 --> 00:11:02,320 small rise. If it gets a little more. 214 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:04,800 I mean, there is part of me that wants to be like, you know, 215 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,640 Jameis isn't playing right, Like they're going to find another 216 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:12,320 quarterback. But it does at least the floor 217 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,720 was was horrible before and now it's actually the floor is kind 218 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:21,600 of fun in a way. The floor is fun and he can 219 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:26,600 catch 130 passes if Jameis does somehow start 17 games. 220 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,920 At least. It's I mean, it's going to be 221 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,800 awesome, right? Like, I don't know, I think I 222 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:32,840 said it. He's going to have the he's 223 00:11:32,840 --> 00:11:35,920 going to have the world's greatest four games of all time. 224 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,680 And then Jameis is going to get benched and then and then it 225 00:11:38,680 --> 00:11:41,840 doesn't matter. So I don't know, I'll still take 226 00:11:41,840 --> 00:11:46,080 Malik Neighbors at any ADP, probably because he's awesome, 227 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:49,400 but I don't think we should be boosting him that much for a 228 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,680 quarterback who's definitely not going to be throwing the ball in 229 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:54,400 the fantasy playoffs. He got like 8,000,000 total 230 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:56,160 guaranteed over two years. Like, that's right. 231 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,880 I don't think they have any intention of starting Jameis 232 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:04,160 Winston, maybe even in Week 1. Hear me out, hear me out because 233 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:08,240 this could, this could actually play out in such a way that the 234 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,640 the Jameis Slappy's win. The Titans say we're not, we're 235 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,360 not trading, We're not doing any of this. 236 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:16,880 We're just taking Cam Ward. We're not, we're not. 237 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,360 It's not open for debate. We are taking him. 238 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,000 It's done. That's happening. 239 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,560 The Browns. Take Abdul Carter. 240 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,520 The Cleveland Browns say, you know what? 241 00:12:25,960 --> 00:12:28,240 We are the largest. We are. 242 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:33,760 We are the saddest thing on the Northern American land mass and 243 00:12:33,760 --> 00:12:35,200 we are. We are tired of that. 244 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,360 Please just let us do anything else other than be what we have 245 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,200 been. Let's take Shader Sanders. 246 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:44,680 This show always comes back to it. 247 00:12:44,680 --> 00:12:47,760 This show always comes back to a Browns pain tolerance threshold 248 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,120 discussion every week. I will say, whenever you do 249 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,480 stuff about the draft, the second you're like, I don't 250 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,680 know, I don't think Shador goes to the the comments explode. 251 00:12:57,680 --> 00:13:00,000 It's good for engagement. You know that you get a lot of 252 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:01,800 like what? What's up with the Shador hate? 253 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,320 This is ridiculous. People really do think he's, you 254 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:09,080 know, he's worthy of going to. I tend not to think he's going 255 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:13,320 to. There is, you know, he provides 256 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,200 a potential escape hatch for a team that, you know, is is so 257 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:18,720 screwed by this contract at the Watson contract. 258 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,800 So I kind of, I kind of get it. I wouldn't do it. 259 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:27,560 I would take Carter or Hunter. But yeah, I mean, I guess. 260 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,360 But you can put that the other way that the the Watson contract 261 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:34,560 precludes you from taking advantage of the shudder rookie 262 00:13:34,560 --> 00:13:37,560 contract. Like I, I would just, I would 263 00:13:37,560 --> 00:13:41,400 just ride out this Watson situation organizationally, but 264 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:43,800 I I understand it's different. If I, I think that's a better 265 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:45,120 move. Yeah, the motivation. 266 00:13:45,360 --> 00:13:48,120 It's a it's a better move, but it's just like you're just like 267 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:52,000 then you're just so let's say they do take Abdul Carter. 268 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:55,880 You are just basically signaling, my God, we just don't 269 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:57,680 care. Like none of this matters. 270 00:13:57,680 --> 00:13:59,600 You're all, it's an exercise in futility. 271 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:01,800 Every Sunday. Your jobs don't matter. 272 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:05,320 Your performance doesn't matter. You're you're all here basically 273 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:09,720 as mercenaries. It's, it's no different than 274 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,920 than going into the coal mines every day. 275 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,640 You know, it's just like I'm just here to do my job, man, you 276 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,280 know? That happens sometimes. 277 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:18,560 I mean, there are lots of teams of. 278 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:22,120 Course it does. Yeah, but I don't know you. 279 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,920 You have an out. You have the second pick, you 280 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,720 have an out. It's just tough with like 281 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:29,360 anytime you're like I'm going to take this quarterback that I 282 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,040 normally wouldn't take over like a blue chip edge. 283 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:34,880 Or because shudder is not that good? 284 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:39,920 Yeah, or like a generational wide receiver cornerback hybrid, 285 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:44,920 Like, yeah, give me those guys. Like that's not shade to 286 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,040 shudder. That's that's those guys are 287 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:48,960 amazing. Sorry, they also have the 1st 288 00:14:48,960 --> 00:14:52,600 pick in round too, and there might be somebody they like just 289 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:55,840 as much as Sanders, you know, whether that's Milro or Dart or 290 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:58,800 whoever that might be. I think that'd be my plan if I 291 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:00,920 were Cleveland. But how about? 292 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:03,120 The I don't think Dart will be there but but I. 293 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,080 Dart Dart will not be there. Have you guys seen this? 294 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:07,480 Much. Not sure Tyler Tuck is going to 295 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:08,960 be there. Oh, OK, you'll be. 296 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,360 There we are actually banned. Tyler, Tyler, Chuck. 297 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,040 Chuck is banned. I'm not sure Jalen Millroy will 298 00:15:15,040 --> 00:15:17,000 be there. Have you guys seen the Jalen 299 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,520 Millro hype? This is what happens every year. 300 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,600 This is what happens. So the the Jill Millro hype 301 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,640 basically is the Steelers beat writer saying we don't think 302 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:31,640 Dart is going to be there and Jill Millro what is he if not 303 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,560 shitty Justin Fields basically. Oh. 304 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,560 You mean the guy they didn't resign even though they easily 305 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,240 could have? Absolutely not. 306 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,560 No, I, I'm. I reject that. 307 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:45,200 I don't. Think well, they I just think 308 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:47,240 you you can trade too. Cleveland should do better than 309 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,360 Quarterback 5 with the first pick of the second round this 310 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:51,560 year. But this is what happens every 311 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:54,560 year the the QBs get hyped, you know, like last year we had it. 312 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,240 We had what Ben Solak, who I like like days before the draft 313 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,600 guys, Knicks and Knicks are not first round picks, OK, they're 314 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:03,720 not first round picks. Both I was top 12. 315 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:07,000 I I felt the. Same way so you know. 316 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:09,240 Normally it I. Thought, but last year's the 317 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,320 outlier. Right. 318 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,880 I think last year's the outlier. Yeah, normally when people don't 319 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:14,880 like them. Sorry, go ahead. 320 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:17,440 You people are going like pendant hooker might go in the 321 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:20,600 1st and it's like Nope. Like Matt Corral's going in the 322 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,000 first, Desmond Ritter's going in the first, Jimmy Clausen is 323 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,080 going in the 1st. Ryan Nassib was my all time 324 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,520 favorite one that that happened with and they ended up being a 325 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,760 7th throne pick. Oh yeah, because Buffalo. 326 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,720 Was going in the 1st. For a while, Buffalo had just 327 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,640 hired Doug Marrone, the Syracuse coach, and Nassif was his 328 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,400 quarterback in Syracuse and they needed one. 329 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:42,400 There was no obvious answer. Geno Smith, EJ Emanuel, and we 330 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,200 talked about Nassif last year. In fact, Dart was like McCarthy 331 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:50,080 even not even Knicks or Pennix. But McCarthy was like is in late 332 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:52,280 March last year, we'll be debating whether he was a first 333 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,920 round pick and then you know, he came in on top of both of them. 334 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:56,200 So. That's right. 335 00:16:56,480 --> 00:17:00,560 Yeah, he's more than McCarthy. And we also did this with, you 336 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:04,599 know, with Shadour and Cam, like the if you were following big 337 00:17:04,599 --> 00:17:09,079 boards, like right after the season and stuff, they were both 338 00:17:09,079 --> 00:17:11,359 kind of outside top 20s a decent amount. 339 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,359 And Shadour's been outside. I mean, you could find top 20s 340 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:18,599 he's outside of now. So it is, you know, it, it's 341 00:17:18,599 --> 00:17:21,920 natural that these guys rise up. But what typically happens is 342 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,240 some guys are like, they sort of pass that test. 343 00:17:25,240 --> 00:17:28,920 And then once you're like a potential franchise quarterback, 344 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,560 it's it's like, well, what's the difference between, you know, 345 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,040 taking them 7th and taking them 15th? 346 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:36,840 Like let's just get our guy, right. 347 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:41,800 But if you're not our guy, then you tend to fall like a while 348 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,200 there's not like usually that many second round quarterbacks 349 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,760 or third round quarterback tends to be more like fourth round 350 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:52,520 that people kind of circle back. Well, Davis, your scenario about 351 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,520 the Giants is is at least realistic and just the like if 352 00:17:56,520 --> 00:17:59,280 Sanders were to go to what then? And just the it's. 353 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:02,320 It's not crazy, like I don't think it's the most likely 354 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:05,440 thing, but it's it's certainly not crazy that the Giants could 355 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:10,520 be shut out of trading up for Cam Ward and unable to select 356 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:11,320 him at 2. Now. 357 00:18:11,760 --> 00:18:16,720 I think, I don't know if I had to say, I'd say it's like 64% 358 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,920 likely that Shooter Sanders is a Giant at pick three. 359 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:24,200 I mean, the dude wore New York Giants cleats at his bowl game. 360 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:25,840 Like, it's, they're not hiding it. 361 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:29,440 It's not. Dion said it how his dad said it 362 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,560 too. It it's very likely to happen, 363 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,280 but it's, I mean, the Browns have been involved, the Browns 364 00:18:34,840 --> 00:18:37,000 that did a workout with him like it's, it's certainly not 365 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,320 impossible. No, and just like the the irony, 366 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,680 the whole narrative on the Giants has been, OK, this is the 367 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,080 team where the coach and the GM like kind of really need to win. 368 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:48,840 This is this, this is careers, jobs on the line. 369 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:51,000 And it's Jameis Winston being the quarterback. 370 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,280 They spin the wheel, the guy they end up on to save the 371 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:58,200 coach's job is, you know, 30 touchdown passes, 30 picks. 372 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:01,840 Jameis Winston just a a a a an homage to that. 373 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:08,440 That one game last year where he threw for 497 against Denver. 3 374 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:11,880 touchdowns, 3 picks. I mean, what, what a night that 375 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:13,760 was. Fantasy Dreaming. 376 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:19,360 I mean, I, I think I'd rather have James than Aaron Rodgers if 377 00:19:19,360 --> 00:19:23,000 I have to save my job this year. Like Aaron Rodgers definitely 378 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,080 getting me fired. Like that's just a lock. 379 00:19:25,240 --> 00:19:29,400 There's no way I'm screwed and it's gonna hurt my reputation 380 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,040 after I get fired. Yeah, Diana Rossini reported 381 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,960 this morning that like without an 8-9 win season, they're all 382 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:37,560 gone. Dabel Sheen, they're everyone's, 383 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:41,000 everyone's fired. That's why. 384 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,480 That's why they wanted Rogers. I think you win more games with 385 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:47,720 Rogers than Jameis for sure, right? 386 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:53,520 But how many times, how many times do I win 10 games and keep 387 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:56,320 my job? I think I want, I think Jameis 388 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,320 is my guy in those scenarios, you know, 'cause if you win like 389 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:03,120 9 or 10 games with Jameis, it's like, OK, yeah, that's a 390 00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:06,400 coaching achievement. If you win 9 games with Rodgers 391 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,440 they might be like wow. You couldn't get more than nine 392 00:20:09,440 --> 00:20:12,200 games out of Rodgers and you're going to have a a bad year. 393 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,440 It's going to be a bad year of your life. 394 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:15,120 Well, yeah, you, you have Aaron Rodgers. 395 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:18,160 Like no matter how many games you win by Week 6, Diana Rossini 396 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:21,520 is like I'm hearing that Brian Dabel sucks and is actually bad 397 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:26,000 at his job and like and it's rude, mean and dumb. 398 00:20:26,200 --> 00:20:28,680 Like, yeah, he wore Bluetooth headphones. 399 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:34,720 One day it was over. I think I, I, I don't know, 400 00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,080 they're probably going to draft Shadour and then that kills the 401 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:43,040 Jameis end of the season dream. But and then and I, how do they 402 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,400 go into the season with Jameis? I think for us, we, we probably 403 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,680 hope for Rodgers and then he gets benched and yeah, they're 404 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,720 going to get fired, but they go out in a blaze of glory and 405 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,000 that's kind of your, your fever dream with neighbors. 406 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,160 What do you think? Well, like, like what do we 407 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,440 think happens if they go with Jameis and Shudur? 408 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,000 I think Shudur just starts week 1 and Jameis is just the backup. 409 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:07,440 No, I guess what I'm saying is like, how do we get the Jameis? 410 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:09,720 How do we get Jameis? How do we get Jameis is it? 411 00:21:09,720 --> 00:21:14,160 Possible in injury, Yeah, Yeah. And like late season injury, 412 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,800 because the thing with Jameis, like if he takes over too early, 413 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,600 then then we're looking at Tommy Vito in Week 50. 414 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:23,800 Yep, if he if he takes over. James could only start in like 1 415 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,160 month in a row right? Like but the Browns started too 416 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:29,280 early and then eventually they were like we, you know, we can't 417 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:31,760 keep doing this. I think partially to tank on 418 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,040 purpose, but. Well, also head coaches. 419 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,320 I mean, we know this. There's just nothing that tilts 420 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,800 them more than interceptions. Yeah, just tilt the like 40 of 421 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,880 them. Yeah. 422 00:21:43,320 --> 00:21:45,520 Yeah, right. You know, it is funny, like 423 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,560 interesting. They should have been fired in 424 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,040 that case. It's very strange to me to be 425 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:56,360 like we need what I haven't been seeing out of my team as as Mara 426 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:00,240 is an 8 win season. Like who cares man? 427 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:02,440 Like why is that the bar? That's crazy. 428 00:22:02,800 --> 00:22:06,480 Like why would you install these guys who have the number three 429 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,480 overall pick and be like, what I want more than anything is for 430 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:15,440 eight games in 2025 to be wins. Like why you're sacrificing long 431 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:18,480 term for short term mediocrity. It's bananas. 432 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:24,280 I I liked a ball but if that was the the if that's a thinking 433 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:27,000 they they should all be gone. Like there's no reason to have a 434 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:30,800 coaching staff and front office highly incentivized to get to 8 435 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,680 wins at all costs in the following season. 436 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:35,880 That's right. It's, it's, it's horrible. 437 00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:37,960 Like every time I get in the Giants argument with someone 438 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:40,680 where, you know, I think I think they too organizationally should 439 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,640 pass on Sanders personally. Someone always brings up, well, 440 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:46,520 like, yeah, but that's not how it works. 441 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,440 Like if you're Shane and you're going to get fired, you have to 442 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,200 take him. And it's like, yeah, I agree. 443 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,840 But like, no organization should put itself in a position where 444 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,920 your GM is like clearly exhibiting moral hazard, where 445 00:22:57,000 --> 00:23:00,560 like where your GM is like, my incentives are so misaligned 446 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,400 from that of my organization. I'm just going to do whatever I 447 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,960 can do to preserve my own employment. 448 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,160 Like you should already terminate that person or you can 449 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,920 tap them on the shoulder and be like, I promise you, like you're 450 00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:12,840 safe. Like it's hey, I believe in you. 451 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:15,440 Yes, one of the two. Don't knock on their door and be 452 00:23:15,440 --> 00:23:18,600 like eight wins, Joe Eight wins or you're dead. 453 00:23:19,560 --> 00:23:23,000 Yeah, the comment here, eight wins could be easily out of the 454 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,000 playoffs in the in the NFCS, like, yeah. 455 00:23:26,120 --> 00:23:29,880 So I mean what is the point? I don't know the the Giants have 456 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:34,400 been bad for a long time. The one fluke year where Dabel 457 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,800 showed up and they won the playoff game in Minnesota. 458 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,720 But really, for a decade it's been like, almost. 459 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,960 Years by the. Way. 460 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:40,520 Yeah, right. That. 461 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,960 Season. I mean, are they spooked by the 462 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,040 Hard Knocks thing with Barkley? Of course. 463 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:47,760 Barkley just has an incredible year. 464 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,320 That's that's kind of it, I think. 465 00:23:50,360 --> 00:23:54,040 I mean, we, we basically know this is these rich guys who own 466 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,360 NFL teams just like hate being laughed at. 467 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840 That's really what it is. These these guys like John Maher 468 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,800 goes to the ownership meetings and everyone's like, you're a 469 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,640 loser dude. And he's like, no one calls me a 470 00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:09,040 loser and gets away with it. Like, life is not really more 471 00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:13,840 complex than that. John Mara is, is a rich man 472 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,960 who's used to being respected, doing well in business, doing 473 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,920 well in life. And for 15 years he's been the 474 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,160 butt of every joke. Like you think, you think Mara 475 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,720 goes like golfing with his buddies and you think they're 476 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,800 not like finish last. Just like your shitty fucking 477 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,120 team, John, you know, Like, you know what I'm saying? 478 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,560 It's really like that. It's really I, I guarantee I 479 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:38,440 mean you guys have. It's getting bullied out there. 480 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:40,360 I I guarantee that's what it's like. 481 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,400 I think I would just never bring the the subject of the Giants up 482 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,080 if I were playing golf with I'd probably just like not bring not 483 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,760 bring it up. But yeah, what what was the 1-2 484 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,120 if this counts remember who was it that had a report that his 485 00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:59,000 Carpenter or somebody was leaking that Daniel Jones was 486 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,480 going to be signed was that Silva who had that somebody had 487 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,960 that like a source close John Mayer is some someone doing 488 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,800 repairs on his house had some sort of in Intel on what they 489 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:13,240 were going to do that proved I think to be correct anyway does 490 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,520 that just. Sound familiar? 491 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,800 Who anybody else on here? I've been drafting Christian 492 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:18,640 Kirk. I like that. 493 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:19,960 I like it. Houston for him. 494 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,400 They did the mix and move. Mason, the big mover. 495 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:27,040 Kirk almost feels like a cheat code where you're like, all the 496 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,120 receivers are gone. Oh wait. 497 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:32,520 Here's Christian Kirk. Anytime you say the words 498 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,880 Christian Kirk feels like a cheat code and you're playing a 499 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,800 half PPR game. I would just like I'm not I'm 500 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,080 not saying you're wrong, but I'm also not saying you're right. 501 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:44,400 You know what I'm? Saying it's the Jacoby Myers. 502 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:48,280 Well, where? OK, Karain, in your mental 503 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,360 model, where are you ranking Christian Kirk after they 504 00:25:50,360 --> 00:25:52,920 selected Mechagbuca with the 24th pick and the 20? 505 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:54,840 25 They're selecting an offensive lineman. 506 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,840 They they purged their entire offensive. 507 00:25:56,840 --> 00:25:58,240 Line, yeah, I don't think that's happening. 508 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,160 Also, Buca seems to be falling. Your mock draft, I was, I was 509 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,440 yelling. I was just walking down the 510 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:04,440 street yelling veto as I listened to that. 511 00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:06,520 Yeah. He was vetoing. 512 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,760 He he used his veto. He tried. 513 00:26:11,120 --> 00:26:14,240 We didn't hear you, though. Yeah, Omari and Hampton. 514 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,600 Well, actually before I say that, some of the I would say 515 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:24,040 Fields, Mason and Kirk are kind of just like AD PS fixing 516 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,000 themselves. Like there's not ever. 517 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,640 We all know why. And I think room to rise, 518 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,680 especially for Mason. I take him ahead of that ADP 519 00:26:33,120 --> 00:26:37,120 pretty comfortably. Hampton is interesting. 520 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:41,000 This one feels like it's just been like a slow climb, but like 521 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:45,480 this dude is going first round. He's going first round so. 522 00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:48,080 Might go top 10. Yeah, for real. 523 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,760 Like he was mocked by Todd Mcshay at 10 to the Bears, which 524 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,480 would put him in the second round probably. 525 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,560 You're just like, I mean, maybe not right away, but I think at a 526 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,440 certain point you'd go the Bears drafted a running back top ten. 527 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,720 Why am I taking Josh Jacobs over him? 528 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,360 I mean, I think it's I think it's arguably over 50% chance. 529 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,040 I think it is over a 50% chance that he winds up at one of the 530 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:17,200 Bears at 10, the Broncos at 20 or the Cowboys at 12. 531 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:22,200 I would say that's like probably 50 to 60% chance he gets one of 532 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,040 those 3. And I think in any of those 533 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,440 three, he's a late 2 or an early three pick. 534 00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,600 Yeah, question about Mcshay's accuracy. 535 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,680 I would say as far as like the market versus Mcshea, give me 536 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,680 Mcshea right now because the market seems to sort of be like 537 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,720 have a stale opinion that he's like a second round pick and the 538 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,480 drum beat on him being a first round pick is loud. 539 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,280 And yeah, maybe 10 to the Bears is hot. 540 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,160 I actually do think it's hot. I don't think he goes 10 to the 541 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,640 Bears, but anytime seeing the guys who are like, you know, got 542 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,320 league sources and doing the tape evals and they're mocking a 543 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,640 running back 10 to one of the best landing spots, I'm like, 544 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,040 I'm going to pay attention, you know? 545 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,160 His accuracy like you don't, you don't want to be right yet. 546 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,680 Like this is not when you want to be right. 547 00:28:10,680 --> 00:28:13,560 You just want to sort of bring up if you're Mcshea and bring up 548 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,800 different scenarios. And do you even need to be right 549 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,640 in this respect on Hampton for that to be good value If he goes 550 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,760 early 2nd? I mean, you do see those mock 551 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:23,760 drafts too. I do where he's not, where he's 552 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:27,920 not in the first round still like not not think you're good. 553 00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,480 We took Reese Hall in what? Like, where do we take Reese 554 00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:33,760 Hall as a rookie like before, before everybody lost their 555 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,520 minds but Michael Carter, like. About a about fifth round, four 556 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,280 fifth round. Yeah, yeah. 557 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:41,560 So if he and that was on The Jets, and I mean Hall was a 558 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:44,720 better prospect than Hampton, I think, but like still he was 559 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,320 Hampton goes early to to a really good landing spot that 560 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,240 that late 4th ADP is totally fine. 561 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:53,280 Yeah, I mean, I don't want to get like 2 care. 562 00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:56,240 Like part of it is because I think Hall is a better prospect 563 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,760 than Hampton, assuming Bolts draft capital like it. 564 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:02,800 I think Hall's a second round pick was a better prospect than 565 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,160 Hampton as a first round pick. Like Hampton I don't think is an 566 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,080 amazing prospect. I think he's a good prospect, 567 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,240 but I mean. I think Caleb Johnson have just 568 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,320 freaking run a 448, so we didn't have to do any of this. 569 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,520 I mean, this is like the most tilting thing because Caleb 570 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,640 Johnson's just like clearly a better running back than Amari 571 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,240 and Hampton. So couldn't, could you have just 572 00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,520 like, I don't know, man, just like done some jumping jacks for 573 00:29:27,520 --> 00:29:30,880 a week and got into a 448I. I'm just like actively tilting 574 00:29:31,200 --> 00:29:33,040 that we have to do this. But Hampton. 575 00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,800 But Hampton's like the perfect scenario because the stuff that 576 00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,200 I'm not convinced he's good at is the stuff that doesn't matter 577 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,840 that much for fantasy, frankly. Like, he's he's big, he's fast, 578 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,760 he catches passes. I'm not convinced that he 579 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,520 necessarily excels in the subtleties of the game, but the 580 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,680 NFL is they're taking him Round 1. 581 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,320 So that's like fine enough to me. 582 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:55,920 Like he he's even compared to Johnson, like he's a more 583 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,560 fantasy friendly prospect than Johnson. 584 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:00,080 He's. He's he's much more fantasy. 585 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,240 Friendly than Johnson, a much better receiver. 586 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,920 Like I'm I like. If the NFL is going to be all in 587 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,360 on Hampton, I don't really see a reason why I should be like 588 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,760 sticking my nose in the air about it. 589 00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:12,960 I completely agree. And I also think like from the 590 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,760 ability to contribute right away, it's kind of like where 591 00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:20,480 you're like really splitting hairs, you know, like if it's in 592 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:24,760 dynasty, I think maybe there's more I I would feel more 593 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,560 comfortable kind of getting into like, well, he's not as good a 594 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,520 prospect of this guy. But like I. 595 00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:32,480 Don't know if I'm going to have to pay a third or fourth round 596 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,560 pick for a guy who's got immediate opportunity with 597 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:39,360 really strong drive capital. I'm I'm into that and right now 598 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:41,480 I'm paying an early fifth round pick. 599 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,960 I guess he just got into the late 4th, but like God, he's I 600 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,120 think still just a clear target. He's going to move up after the 601 00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,480 draft. Like it's possible he doesn't. 602 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,400 It's possible he lands in a bad spot, but. 603 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,880 Where would the bad spot for Hampton even be? 604 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,880 The only one I could see going to a bad spot is Genti if he 605 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:03,200 gets to 49ers because Kyle is just the type of guy who would 606 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,800 do that. But Hampton is not going to go 607 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:07,880 to a timeshare spot. Hampton is. 608 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,200 Hampton is only. I mean like what if the Saints 609 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,600 took him? Which would be super dumb, but 610 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,080 bad stuff always happens in the draft. 611 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,320 Yeah. There's always, like, what? 612 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:21,080 You know, like, no, you're not the team. 613 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:22,840 You don't. Get the running the yachts, take 614 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:27,320 him at. 20, yeah. Seattle sharpening. 615 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,760 I mean the Seahawks taking sharpening was was nuts at the 616 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,680 time and it's been has proven nuts. 617 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,760 I mean, it doesn't make any sense. 618 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,080 It's such a bad use of second round capital to take a backup 619 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,920 running back. But I don't know, teams do weird 620 00:31:39,920 --> 00:31:43,160 stuff so I wouldn't rule it out. It's just that I think in the 621 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,080 vast majority of outcomes, this dude's moving up after the 622 00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,560 draft. You do have the teams we 623 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:49,680 mentioned. LA would be another, Chargers 624 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,560 would be another one. It's a small handful of teams 625 00:31:51,560 --> 00:31:54,600 where it's wide open. You would think otherwise. 626 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,200 Well, Chargers less so than a month ago before Naji, but he 627 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:00,360 would still probably ask. Naji with as a first round pick. 628 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,440 Naji is a backup like. He just has some. 629 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,880 What about the what about the Texans round one that that I 630 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,280 think would be maybe really fun late season but probably really 631 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:11,480 annoying early season. What about your lineman? 632 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:15,320 What about your lineman? Well, maybe they would think, 633 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,080 you know what we don't, we don't, we don't need to take a 634 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:20,760 lineman because we're, we're never going to pass the ball. 635 00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,560 So we'll just, we'll just run the ball out of our, we'll run 636 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,680 through our problems. Not great for my Christian Kirk 637 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:29,040 bags. Yeah, I mean, like something 638 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,440 like that would be. And you could talk yourself into 639 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,640 it organizationally. You have a succession plan, a 640 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:36,120 running back, which you never need and shouldn't put in place. 641 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:39,400 But like, you know, yeah, I know maybe that you want that. 642 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,520 So what about the Chiefs? That's awesome. 643 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,400 Davis, how high would you take him on the Chiefs? 644 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:52,120 That is a bad question to ask the the the correct question is 645 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:53,600 where should the market take him? 646 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,360 No, no, no, that's not the question I want to know. 647 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,640 The answer You like your Beatles or do you respect The Beatles? 648 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:01,800 I asked you a question. I mean, I would take him. 649 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,960 I would take him as the running back nine. 650 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,000 So where Jacobs is going? Not, not one. 651 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,120 Yeah, that's that's wrong. Actually, the answer is that you 652 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,440 would take him running back 7. Well, running back nine, he 653 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,160 wouldn't get to Running back nine, he wouldn't. 654 00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:16,920 He he would not get, he would not get ahead. 655 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,680 Of I don't know, Davis, you do a lot of drafts. 656 00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:28,560 You're making, you're making some compelling. 657 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,600 You're making some compelling. I mean, The thing is, is they 658 00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:39,240 would have to remove to for you to feel really good about that, 659 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,520 about Hampton on the Chiefs. They would have to remove Hunt. 660 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:45,720 Yeah. I mean, because, because. 661 00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,320 Well, Woody though, because I was like, oh, they're yeah, 662 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,520 they're gonna they're gonna send Hunt on his merry way. 663 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,680 And they didn't. He did. 664 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:55,280 He did sign. I thought he would. 665 00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:58,760 I thought this would be a McKinnon situation where it 666 00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,560 would be. Oh, if they, if they, we. 667 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,200 Have you on speed dial? We have you on speed dial. 668 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:07,160 I didn't think it would be March 15th plan out. 669 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,639 We'll see it. We'll see in four months for 670 00:34:08,639 --> 00:34:10,440 camp Buddy. Yeah, they they, they self 671 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,520 scouted that Pacheco tape and they they use the speed dial. 672 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:19,639 Well, yeah, I mean, I think frankly, I think they probably 673 00:34:19,639 --> 00:34:23,199 hope that none of the guys they just paid have to play for them. 674 00:34:23,199 --> 00:34:27,280 And I hope they think, like, I think their plan is we're going 675 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,400 to take a guy on Day 2, we're going to get him into camp, and 676 00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,440 we're going to really hope for the exact opposite of the 677 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,159 Clydeburg Tulare experience. So this guy comes in and he's 678 00:34:35,159 --> 00:34:37,440 awesome. He learns the offense quickly. 679 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,080 He does everything we want. And you know, basically Pacheco, 680 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,560 Hunt, Mitchell, you know, thanks for your. 681 00:34:43,639 --> 00:34:45,360 Who? Who would you be most excited 682 00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:48,800 like as a day? Let's even say like round three, 683 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,520 round three, Chiefs running back, Who? 684 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:53,560 Who would you, Harvey, give them, right? 685 00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:57,240 That's what Harvey Harvey or Neil Harvey or Neil. 686 00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,000 I was going to standing staff would be a really great. 687 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:01,160 Fit. Seems to be fun. 688 00:35:01,240 --> 00:35:03,640 I I think Harvey's even more fun because of the pass catching. 689 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,920 Yeah. Yeah, Giddens, tooten. 690 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:09,560 Giddens would be fun Tooten would be fun. 691 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,720 Giddens, get the. Local you get the local angle. 692 00:35:11,720 --> 00:35:13,800 Honestly, Scataboo would be fun on the Chiefs. 693 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:16,440 Oh, you'd just raid on the Chiefs, Yeah. 694 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:20,720 I mean, yeah, Carson Steele with a little bit of extra juice, you 695 00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:23,320 know? It's like a more than leaving. 696 00:35:23,320 --> 00:35:26,040 P ride would be last year like where it's like you got a big 697 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,040 guy, he's gonna catch much passes. 698 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:35,240 The big, big McKinnon, Yeah. All the job is like if they 699 00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:38,080 actually drafted Marion Hampton in the first round, there's 700 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:41,320 going to be a Davis Maddock stream where it's going to be. 701 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,480 He's going to be on the board to like pick 14 and he's going to 702 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,720 be like, well, I know he's not getting back to the 3-4 turns. 703 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,320 Yeah, dude, he's not. A Davidson of the fabric of this 704 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,440 team. Davis would just treat Derrick 705 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,240 Henry as Every time I see Derrick Henry, I draft a Marion 706 00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,840 Hampton on the Chiefs. That's facts. 707 00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:01,040 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's exactly. 708 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,960 Right. A Marion Hampton on the Chiefs 709 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:07,440 would eliminate the need to differentiate the portfolio with 710 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:08,200 Henry. Yeah. 711 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:13,920 Everywhere there we we got there, he said he was taking RV 712 00:36:13,960 --> 00:36:16,280 9 for. Me here's here's it's August. 713 00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:20,280 It's August 14th. Christian McCaffrey has nothing 714 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,880 but positive reviews about health. 715 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:25,240 He's like, oh, did I feel great? He plays in a preseason game. 716 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,640 We get a, we get a McCaffrey reception in a preseason game, 717 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,800 like a 13 yard little, you know, scamper. 718 00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,640 He's like, I feel great. Purdy signs a contract 719 00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:37,640 extension. You know, we, we every like all 720 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:42,040 the vibes are good, right? Piersall has got his new number. 721 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:46,680 Everyone feels happy. Where are you taking McCaffrey 722 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:48,320 relative to Chief Samarian Hampton? 723 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,800 I had a. That hypothetical? 724 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,880 Goes up against this other. A lot of pieces to this. 725 00:36:56,920 --> 00:37:00,480 This is this is this is this is dueling hypotheticals basically. 726 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:02,800 Wait, sorry, can. You I'm taking, I'm taking 727 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:07,320 Chiefs, I'm taking CMC over over Chief Samarian Hampton there. 728 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:08,800 OK. All right. 729 00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,840 You're giving me, you're giving me everything. 730 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:15,240 Swell 49ers, all the CMC. I mean, he was the one-on-one 731 00:37:15,240 --> 00:37:17,040 last. Last was that the only 732 00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,040 hypothetical about CMC is that he's healthy? 733 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:21,000 And he caught a 13 yard pass and everything. 734 00:37:21,000 --> 00:37:23,400 'S going great. He caught a He caught a 13 yard 735 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,800 pass in the. Preseason I don't even need. 736 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,640 I don't, I don't even need the 13 yard pass of the preseason. 737 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,720 I I will take Christian McCaffrey over Chief Samarian 738 00:37:29,720 --> 00:37:33,840 Hampton. I mean, I think about it. 739 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,560 You're not going to get a 13 yard preseason or something. 740 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,760 OK, let this will be quicker. Who would you take over Chief 741 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:44,080 Samarian Hampton? Justin Deckman, what I mean? 742 00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,200 What if Jefferson? Running back Davis what? 743 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,720 If Jefferson got traded, reduced back. 744 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,280 Me What If 101. Justin Jefferson 102. 745 00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:56,720 Devonte Adams 103. Joe Thooney, 104. 746 00:37:57,440 --> 00:37:59,880 There's 8 running backs he would take over this guy. 747 00:37:59,880 --> 00:38:05,400 He can't name 1. I mean, frankly, I don't even I. 748 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:09,080 Think 105 Milton Williams. I think Barclay is a horrible 749 00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:11,440 pick right now. And I'm wondering, here's a 750 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:13,320 question, This is not even really related to what we're 751 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,680 talking about. At any point will the market 752 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,560 realize that he's a bad pick or will it just he'll just be the 753 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,040 one O 1, one O 2 the whole time? I think he's going to go 1O11O2 754 00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,880 the whole time because OK, who has the courage among us to 755 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,640 stand up after the people? Who I don't. 756 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:29,760 No, I don't. I sit there. 757 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,320 I sit there and. Eat my vegetables. 758 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,080 If Martin Hampton goes to the Chiefs, he might. 759 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,360 I'll tell you what, probably one time in the main event, Carane 760 00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,360 will will have like the one O 7 and I'll be like guys, come on, 761 00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,680 yeah, some Marion Hampton on the chiefs. 762 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:45,320 Let's just. Do it. 763 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,920 I took. I took. 764 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,080 Clyde. And you're drafting all You're 765 00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,200 going to take a lot more teams with Davis this summer, too, 766 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,440 yes. We are. 767 00:38:56,440 --> 00:38:58,240 Yes, we are. We're going to have a Marion. 768 00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:01,440 On the teams on one of them. Clyde's Clyde's rookie year the 769 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:06,080 the group of guys that I do mains with we we took Clyde at 770 00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:10,880 the one O 4 once and how that didn't work out didn't. 771 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:13,640 Work out felt. Good. 772 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,000 Quarter after the opening night. Yeah, the 4th of the week. 773 00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,960 Was. Caleb Johnson, who you mentioned 774 00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,240 is on the Fallers squad this week. 775 00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:26,480 We could have our fun with Caleb Johnson on the Chiefs, too, but 776 00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:30,720 would not be as high as Hampton. Still a slight drop here and you 777 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,560 have Jordan Whittington back-to-back. 778 00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,160 That's rarefied air. back-to-back, Baller. 779 00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:36,080 Yeah. Back-to-back. 780 00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,120 Callers. Back-to-back then also Metcalf 781 00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,240 maybe was on the list last week as well. 782 00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,400 And JSN, is there anything to that other than just sort of 783 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:46,920 negativity toward bad offense the. 784 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,680 Cooper. Cup it's the it's the Spider man 785 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,400 pointing meme wide receiver room Cooper Cooper Cup Jackson Smith 786 00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,280 and Jake, but Jake Bobo sit in a bar. 787 00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,000 That's that's the beginning to a joke. 788 00:39:59,240 --> 00:40:01,920 It's not it's not a wide receiver room you want I don't 789 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:05,760 think yeah. Is Jake Bogle going to play 790 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:07,960 well? And they probably draft 791 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,400 somebody. Primarily well, and they'll 792 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,960 probably draft someone. Yeah, I think it's not a it's 793 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:17,400 not a good spot where my fear is that they because Cop is the 794 00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:20,520 more limited player, my fear is they wind up catering to his 795 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,520 needs. And then JSN has to do stuff 796 00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:25,960 that he is a lot better at the Cooper Cup, but maybe not what 797 00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,040 he actually does best. And he ends up having to play 798 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:29,600 that sort of intermediate deep role. 799 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,680 Normally it wouldn't matter, but like I assume they're going to 800 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,240 run so many sets with two tight ends or with a full back that 801 00:40:38,240 --> 00:40:40,200 they're they're going to only have two wide receivers on the 802 00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,760 field a lot, which I thought was part of the reason why they got 803 00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:44,440 rid of Metcalf. But then they go and they get a 804 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,200 guy who can almost only play in the slot at this point in his 805 00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,160 career. So I don't know, it doesn't make 806 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:52,880 a whole lot of sense to me, but I I don't know that it's going 807 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:54,600 to be that bad for JS NS fantasy value. 808 00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:57,600 Like I'm I'm more concerned about like the Seattle offense. 809 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,240 Yeah, generally from like a real life standpoint. 810 00:41:00,320 --> 00:41:03,720 Me too. From a JSN fantasy standpoint, 811 00:41:03,720 --> 00:41:05,560 like he's still going to get a bunch of targets, I think he's 812 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,600 going to be fine. Yeah, it doesn't. 813 00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:13,480 I mean, yeah, the the design of the offense doesn't make a lot 814 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,160 of sense. If this is kind of the final 815 00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,920 iteration, maybe they maybe they get somebody in the second round 816 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,960 or something. I do like the savior restrepo 817 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:24,960 idea as just get the slowest, slightliest wide receiver cooler 818 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,320 out there. But yeah, I'm I'm concerned. 819 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,720 About available David Bell, Yeah. 820 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,040 Tyler Boyd I think literally is available. 821 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:36,720 You could. The contract for Darnold, the 822 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,400 ability to move on after the year and the potential for this 823 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:43,680 to kind of all go down is like a failed experiment like. 50 824 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,080 sacks. Yeah, I mean, Darnold behind a 825 00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,320 weak interior offensive line is a bad idea. 826 00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,600 And that is what the Seahawks are going to do this year and 827 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,080 they can get out after the season. 828 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,400 But we could be talking about other people getting out like 829 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:05,240 they the defensive hire who fires Zocia, you know, after the 830 00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:06,560 season. And it was after his first 831 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,880 season and he should be safe. But if this implodes down the 832 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:11,960 stretch, we could just be talking about them cleaning 833 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:16,720 house, you know, I just, you know, that's a tough spot to be 834 00:42:16,720 --> 00:42:20,280 in as you're if you're hoping for week 17 fantasy points. 835 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,400 That's what makes the move kind of Arnold. 836 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:24,320 Is that he can Chuck it deep, right? 837 00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,600 Like that's the fun is like he has a great arm and you can 838 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,240 throw these deep intermediate passes. 839 00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:30,480 And it's like, well, we're going to, we're going to draft a bunch 840 00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,280 of wide receivers who specialize in running 8 yards. 841 00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,480 Yeah, you guys ever heard of Marquez Valdez Dantling? 842 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,720 Oh right, the new I literally forgot he existed. 843 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:44,080 The new Rashid Shaheed. I mean, it's going to be week 7 844 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,240 and they're going to be playing him more routes than Cop when 845 00:42:46,240 --> 00:42:49,000 they realize like for sure, yeah, generation of their 846 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,560 offenses. I think they might be planning 847 00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:54,160 to do that like the. World Bill NVS. 848 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:56,440 People forget. People forget. 849 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,320 They do forget. Let's talk about the running 850 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,600 backs. Between just arbitrarily we 851 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:07,400 decided 25 and 35. I'm often getting to this, like 852 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,080 a lot of people, I'm sure you get to round eight or nine and 853 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,160 you've got four or five receivers, a couple of running 854 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,520 backs. Taking quarterbacks? 855 00:43:14,240 --> 00:43:17,280 Yeah, like because some of these options are just that 856 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,200 unappealing. We got a few slides here, Pat, 857 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,600 if you want to just sort of like move, move as the conversation 858 00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,880 moves to guy to guy. But some great work here by 859 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:29,720 Zach. Again, overall strategy like you 860 00:43:29,720 --> 00:43:32,000 said quarterbacks already, Davis, I mean, is this a, a 861 00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:36,120 group where you feel like you can, you can afford to avoid? 862 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:44,040 Yeah, I mean, so DeAndre Swift can only kill you if the Bears 863 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:47,160 add no one, which they're probably not going to do. 864 00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:53,200 Frankly, I don't really see any way that, yeah, ETN is at best 865 00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,560 in a timeshare with a guy who's better than him, and maybe they 866 00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,360 take someone. Pacheco. 867 00:43:57,360 --> 00:43:59,480 We just went over that. Brian Robinson. 868 00:43:59,480 --> 00:44:02,920 Junior will probably be what he's always been, but with some 869 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,120 chance of added competition in the draft. 870 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:08,360 You know, Karain, I'll let you speak on Jalen Warren. 871 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:14,640 These, these guys feel to me all like all of them are so insanely 872 00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:16,760 fragile. Like each and every one of them. 873 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,800 I'm like this, this some of these guys could if, if the 874 00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,520 Bears take, let's just say, for example, the Bears take Hampton 875 00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,880 or Gente. I mean, DeAndre Swift gets 876 00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,240 drafted maybe? No. 877 00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:33,240 He'll get drafted, he'll get drafted, but then he's like 878 00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:35,000 Penny Gainwell or whatever, right? 879 00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,680 I, I dispute that. I mean, I think Warren is one of 880 00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:41,480 these things, is not like the other, like Warren's been a 881 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,240 fantastic running back in all the stuff that we love. 882 00:44:45,240 --> 00:44:46,920 And that's why they've always. No, I know that every. 883 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:48,480 I know that. I know that everyone. 884 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:54,160 Is. Like, are we just, are we not 885 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,160 allowed to have dreams anymore? No 2024 killed all the dreams 886 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,280 buddy. I don't know if you watched. 887 00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,000 It I I know that it's open. In Canada. 888 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:06,400 Like you know you. See these eyes? 889 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,400 You saw those eyes? This Pokémon eye? 890 00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:12,440 It's filled with hope. Yeah, like I, I don't, I, I'm, 891 00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:17,800 I'm unburdened by what has been. I, I, I think I look at Warren 892 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,520 and it's like they don't have a second round pick. 893 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,040 All I have to fade is that Omarion Hampton goes before they 894 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:27,720 have a chance to take him in round one, which seems pretty 895 00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:29,080 possible. I think the Broncos are going to 896 00:45:29,080 --> 00:45:31,360 come through for me. They're not going to take anyone 897 00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,840 else at 21. They can't take anyone in round 898 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,080 two. And I will absolutely back Jalen 899 00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,960 Warren to be better than any running back that they drafted 900 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,120 round three or later. I I. 901 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:42,920 Have then, then Damien. Marbles clicking the shit out of 902 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:44,880 Jalen Warren. Yeah, I liked it. 903 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:45,800 There's a lot of guys that I like. 904 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,920 I like Damian Martinez. But like if you're if you're 905 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,320 giving me Warren with the advantage of incumbency as a 906 00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,840 running back who for the two previous years to his injury 907 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,840 field year last year was consistently cranking out top 908 00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,720 five rates in all the advanced metrics we care about yards 909 00:46:01,720 --> 00:46:07,000 after contact miss tackles force like who has legit 215 LB size 910 00:46:07,160 --> 00:46:10,520 is a pass catcher probably the best pass blocking league 911 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:14,480 running back in the league in a regular rotation like that's 912 00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:16,440 that's a bad. I massively want to make like 913 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:18,520 what what if they what if they don't even take a running back 914 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,680 until day three? That's conceivable. 915 00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:24,320 I, I think all the downside risk is priced in here and I'm. 916 00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:28,760 Buddy, I promise you, I promise you all the downside risk is not 917 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:32,120 priced in at running back 27. How how is he? 918 00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:34,400 How is he going any later outside if they take a running 919 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,320 back in round one? I I I don't understand how he's 920 00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,440 his ADP isn't rising in any in every single other scenario. 921 00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:43,640 That he's Aaron Rodgers, who runs the slowest offense in 922 00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:46,000 football's third down back, and he. 923 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,600 Yeah, Aaron Rodgers running backs are historically very bad 924 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:52,000 for fantasy. They're awesome for fantasy. 925 00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,840 Aaron Rodgers been a running back goldmine his whole career. 926 00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,720 Do you really want Breese last year? 927 00:46:57,320 --> 00:46:59,600 He's fine. Well, I mean at first round what 928 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:01,400 I have what I have. Taken cost No, but. 929 00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,840 Year last year in round 8. Yeah, you. 930 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:06,200 They would have been an absolute smash. 931 00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:12,120 Yeah, I mean, it's a deep enough running back class that if they 932 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,480 were to take like a Quinshaw Judkins in the, I guess they 933 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,600 don't have a second round pick. To your point though. 934 00:47:18,600 --> 00:47:21,920 Sorry, a small after I talked about Warren with the vintage of 935 00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,400 benefits of incumbency, he said. What about the global anti 936 00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:30,400 incumbent environment? Also got the second round 937 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,000 tender, it's a good sign. That is a good sign. 938 00:47:33,240 --> 00:47:36,040 And I mean, they, they, they wanted to keep him. 939 00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,040 Don't get me wrong. It's not, I'm not saying like, 940 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,280 oh, Jalen Warren's the worst pick on the board or anything 941 00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,480 like that. But it's very easy for me to 942 00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:48,080 imagine Jalen Warren going the way of, you know, James White, 943 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,480 basically. The thing about if they wanted. 944 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:56,480 To keep Warren, Naji Harris got $5.25 million and they said not 945 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,480 matching it. See you later, go to LA. 946 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,240 Yeah, they they don't want. They know he sucks. 947 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:06,080 They decided he wouldn't be back before last year started and 948 00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,080 they didn't pick up the option on on Harris. 949 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:11,400 Well, I mean, Harris got plenty of run because Warren was banged 950 00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:13,640 up all of last season. I think that's part of the the 951 00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:16,960 upside with Warren is that there's, you know, he he 952 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,280 struggled through injury, didn't really look like himself for 953 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,200 much of the year, kind of looked better down the stretch a little 954 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,320 bit. Never never turned in the 955 00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:24,960 season. I was hoping in terms of the 956 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,280 advance stuff, I just, we are kind of leaning more on, I guess 957 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,640 one like if you're going to make the Warren Bear case a little 958 00:48:31,640 --> 00:48:35,120 bit like you are leaning more on two years ago from the advanced 959 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,520 metrics than last year. And you're kind of explaining 960 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:41,480 you're sort of hand waving away a bad season from a guy who was 961 00:48:41,480 --> 00:48:45,640 a UDFA. And with these guys, because 962 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:48,040 they don't have the pedigree, it's like they kind of always 963 00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:50,040 have to do it or they risk getting replaced. 964 00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,440 And so I just, I wouldn't be surprised if they were to, you 965 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,720 know, to take a Hampton in the first round or something. 966 00:48:56,720 --> 00:48:58,480 And. This. 967 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,120 This is not an an anti Jalen Warren take that I'm proffering. 968 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:07,720 It's just a, you know, basically this is just kind of what 969 00:49:07,720 --> 00:49:11,160 happens with NFL running backs. Like how how many examples of 970 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:13,680 running backs do we have that we put in this bucket? 971 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:17,520 Us as in the nerds like these, like secret superstars, these 972 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,520 really efficient guys that catch passes, they break tackles, they 973 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:24,680 do all these things like how many guys have we wish casted? 974 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:28,160 Antonio Gibson. But. 975 00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,920 He's not and he broke his ankle. He proved last year that we were 976 00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:35,640 right all along. Like I know been right in 2023. 977 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,120 He just. Now if I can. 978 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:41,320 If I what I, what I would say, what I would say just on that 979 00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:45,720 is, is like part of the reason I was so in on Warren last year is 980 00:49:45,720 --> 00:49:49,600 that like these types of like of opportunities at the running 981 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,440 back position. They do happen, but they tend to 982 00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,680 be somewhat short lived where like a guy is showing a lot of 983 00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:58,440 juice and then you. So you like this dude showing a 984 00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,240 lot of juice unexpectedly. I'm in now. 985 00:50:01,280 --> 00:50:03,160 I'm not going to be in necessarily two years, three 986 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,680 years from now. So the fact that Warren's coming 987 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,200 off the bad season makes me a little bit nervous. 988 00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:13,480 However, he is an elite pass blocker and he's also the 989 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:16,200 receiving back. So like that role to me and this 990 00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,280 by the way, although this is a deep class, No, it's not. 991 00:50:23,400 --> 00:50:26,160 So if they were to take scataboo, that would really suck 992 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:29,160 for him 'cause like he kind of is, he's like little scataboo. 993 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:33,480 So, you know, but outside of that and outside of a first 994 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,680 round pick, we're talking about guys who pair quite well with 995 00:50:36,680 --> 00:50:38,480 him. Like a Damian Martinez would 996 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,160 pair. Damian Martinez is a big is a 997 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:43,280 Naji. Yeah, he would love him, but 998 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,040 he's not going to be out there on passing downs. 999 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:49,800 And Warren's the type of dude who if you get the first down, 1000 00:50:50,360 --> 00:50:52,160 you leave him on the field a lot of the time. 1001 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:57,520 So I think forming a committee, you know, I see the bear case a 1002 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:01,120 little bit, but I think he's, he clearly is a better bet than a 1003 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,400 lot of these guys on the Siamese. 1004 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,840 For one thing, he's going ahead of a lot of these guys. 1005 00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:09,480 So the market agrees. The point I wanted to make on 1006 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:12,880 this general group is I want upside. 1007 00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:15,440 Like I, I agree Davis, that all these guys are fragile, 1008 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:17,640 including Warren, because we don't know what's going to 1009 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:20,040 happen in the draft, but give me the upside. 1010 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,480 I think ETN stands out a little bit, especially because of where 1011 00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,800 he's going. He. 1012 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:26,600 I I thought he was. Really good two years. 1013 00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:28,240 Ago. I like Tank, too. 1014 00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:29,760 I like both these Jacksonville backs. 1015 00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,680 I'm optimistic on that team. I mean, we just saw them have a 1016 00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,480 boatload of running back points last year. 1017 00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:37,320 I like. Pollard What if Ward is? 1018 00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:39,280 Good. The scheme coming into 1019 00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,160 Jacksonville? Tony Pollard What if Ward Ward 1020 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,880 is good? What if Ford is good? 1021 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,920 Yeah, I mean, so I wanted to come back to that ETN thing real 1022 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:51,080 quick. Crane, was he was he good two 1023 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,000 years ago or did he just get a lot of volume two years ago? 1024 00:51:54,280 --> 00:51:57,880 Because in my memory it was kind of, it was kind I and I had his 1025 00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,560 PFF stuff pulled up earlier. In my memory. 1026 00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:06,240 It was, he was good for like 8 games and then became a real 1027 00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:09,440 volume grinder. That might be right. 1028 00:52:10,240 --> 00:52:11,320 He was terrible. Last. 1029 00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,280 Year. His advanced stats were really 1030 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,920 good three years ago. Three years ago, then he was. 1031 00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,480 And then he was good for fantasy two years ago. 1032 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:20,920 Oh, that's right. And then yeah and then he was, 1033 00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:24,000 yeah, his advanced at all in any capacity last year. 1034 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:26,880 This is UTS. I'm saying this I'm getting less 1035 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,320 into the bet but. Yeah, no, you're right, Jacob. 1036 00:52:30,320 --> 00:52:35,240 He he was bad in rush yards ever expected in 2023 as well as 1037 00:52:35,240 --> 00:52:37,240 2024. He's really good in 2022. 1038 00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,120 They wore him out. Both years, 22 and 23, they wore 1039 00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:43,040 him out, Peterson admitted. It Like we had to space out his 1040 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,160 workload but last year they were so bad. 1041 00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,360 Freaking Liz Frank injury as a rookie. 1042 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:56,480 I I think with ETN though, like he's still more versatile and 1043 00:52:56,960 --> 00:53:00,840 can like Bigsby is just a straight up early down power 1044 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:03,760 back that that he's a true 2 down back. 1045 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,880 And again, this is a class with a bunch of early down runners in 1046 00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:08,920 it. So if they were to draft 1047 00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:12,200 somebody, they would probably be competing with Tank Bigsby for 1048 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,880 that like early down role. And I think ETN is going to have 1049 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:19,640 a role in this offense. He's also like that pedigree, I 1050 00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:21,400 think still protects him a little bit. 1051 00:53:21,720 --> 00:53:24,280 You know that he was that first round pick that he used to be 1052 00:53:24,320 --> 00:53:26,760 really, really good. A new coaching staff coming in 1053 00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,200 creative, you know, trying to get the ball in their 1054 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,400 playmaker's hands. Like, I think that ETN will be 1055 00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:36,520 someone that they at least try to, to work in, in a real role 1056 00:53:36,640 --> 00:53:39,360 this season. Maybe they eventually decide 1057 00:53:39,360 --> 00:53:41,800 they don't like him, but there's, there's upside, 1058 00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,520 especially if they don't draft anybody. 1059 00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,720 And so I, I do take him. I mean, I, I feel like once you 1060 00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:50,320 get past pick 100 and you're like, OK, ETN is actually the 1061 00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,880 handcuff to some other guy. Well, it's like Zach 1062 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,320 Charbonnay's about to go in a couple picks and he is 1063 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,280 definitely the handcuff. Yeah, that's that's the 1064 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,880 challenge in this range, really tough. 1065 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,120 But Jacob, can you stay or do you have to leave I? 1066 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:06,760 Can stay as long as you want. I can stay OK. 1067 00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,040 Long OK, good. I wasn't sure because we do have 1068 00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,760 our game, but we want to wait until the end as long as Jacob's 1069 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,040 gonna be around for it. We also have a depth chart 1070 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:19,240 graphic. Pat that's super good. 1071 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:24,480 The cuck chair is mentioned. Cuck chasing Puck chasing Jacob 1072 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,120 Chickering 8 years 72 million for the Capitals Get our hockey 1073 00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,960 quota we. Go live, we go live to pack the 1074 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:34,680 rain for slots. Etienne Chickering, you know the 1075 00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:39,400 lot of them. Great, great chart here showing 1076 00:54:39,440 --> 00:54:41,280 Tyrone Tracy. We didn't get to at the top of 1077 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:44,440 this list. With the time, he's a dangerous 1078 00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,240 pick. I think he's a dangerous pick. 1079 00:54:46,760 --> 00:54:50,520 Yeah, it's yeah. That he actually sums up like 1080 00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,960 what I was trying to get at before with the upside thing is 1081 00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:58,600 like with ETN, I'm trying to think what offenses like when I 1082 00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:01,800 look back and I'm like at the end of the season, why was I 1083 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,440 letting this guy fall outside the top 100 picks. 1084 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:09,120 The Jaguars lead running back is like a pretty obvious I I'm 1085 00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:10,760 interested in the Jaguars offense. 1086 00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:12,480 I think they could be a really good offense. 1087 00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:17,600 The giants like committee running back. 1088 00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,080 It just feels like a less of a a guy who burns me. 1089 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,600 Given sort of general sentiment on the Giants. 1090 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,600 I mean, we're thinking it's probably shoulder Sanders like 1091 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:28,840 leading, you know, a rookie quarterback leading the team at 1092 00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:31,160 the end of the season. And is this an offense we're 1093 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,640 going to be like gutted not to be heavily invested in? 1094 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:40,480 I I kind of struggle to see that the swift honestly, swift 1095 00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,480 because he goes so late. I've started to take a little 1096 00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:45,520 bit. I was I was completely out on 1097 00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,640 him when he was like in the, you know, 100 range. 1098 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:52,280 But as he goes to like if you get him at like 125 or or later, 1099 00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,280 I want to be into into the Bears offense. 1100 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:57,840 They have not yet drafted a running back. 1101 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:02,480 You know, it could be that they take they take a Caleb Johnson. 1102 00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:04,840 If they take a Caleb Johnson, Swift's actually in a pretty 1103 00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:10,440 sick role other than. Like not being good? 1104 00:56:10,760 --> 00:56:12,120 Definitely. Other than not being good in Ben 1105 00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,080 Johnson, having faced him out previously. 1106 00:56:14,200 --> 00:56:16,760 You'll think that when they take Caleb Johnson with their first 1107 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:19,040 second round pick, but then when they come back and take Trivia 1108 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,200 and Henderson with their other second round pick, that's when 1109 00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:24,360 you know it's over. That's a good point. 1110 00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,720 No I honestly hate clicking him but I do you know if he falls 1111 00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:30,600 far enough. I'm just trying to think like 1112 00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:35,000 all these guys are fragile, all of them feel gross, but who 1113 00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,520 actually has like upside, you know, to be part of an offense 1114 00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:41,440 that we want to be in who, you know, can, who recapture like an 1115 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,160 explosive form Pollard. I I basically don't take right 1116 00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:49,360 'cause I'm like, what am I the Titans offense? 1117 00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,520 Is that going to, is that going to be what burns me this year? 1118 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:52,840 I mean, I guess Cam Moore could be really good. 1119 00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:54,520 They're going to draft a power back. 1120 00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,400 There's reports that they look at Pollard and Spears. 1121 00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,800 They like both, but that they they've decided that they no 1122 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:01,360 longer want to placative running backs. 1123 00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:02,920 They want a complimentary running back. 1124 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,240 And so they're going to add a third, apparently this this 1125 00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:10,040 draft. Aaron Jones could still be Aaron 1126 00:57:10,040 --> 00:57:13,120 Jones, by the way. Yeah, I don't mind Jones. 1127 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,080 It's just you feel like you're like hanging on for dear life. 1128 00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:19,040 You really do you. Take Aaron Jones. 1129 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:25,000 Tracy is 1 where like what's really the difference between 1130 00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,800 Tyrone Tracy and Jerome Ford? Like to me, like it's like 1131 00:57:28,800 --> 00:57:32,280 they're, they're both probably going to end up having the same 1132 00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:37,160 year, like they're going to be. Jerome Ford is a good pick. 1A 1133 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:39,880 in a committee. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 1134 00:57:39,880 --> 00:57:42,880 But like, you can get exactly what Tracy is like way later 1135 00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,600 with with Jerome Ford. Totally. 1136 00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,840 It's just we, we seemingly like pick spots. 1137 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:48,720 It's it's it's the same argument. 1138 00:57:48,760 --> 00:57:50,600 We like Jerome Ford is kind of the argument that we made about 1139 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,720 like Dowdle last year where it's like Jerome Ford. 1140 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:56,120 Why why have we decided that one guy has no chance? 1141 00:57:57,000 --> 00:57:59,440 Yeah. It's just with how deep this 1142 00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,160 running back class is, any running back who's like 1143 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:05,920 essentially on their own and is not like Saquon Barkley level 1144 00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:10,240 talented, like they, they're going to get competition and the 1145 00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:13,160 market is going to price at this competition because we react to 1146 00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,400 everything after the fact. So the only running backs, and I 1147 00:58:17,400 --> 00:58:19,320 wouldn't even say the protect, but the only running backs have 1148 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:22,280 a chance of getting through this draft unscathed are the giga 1149 00:58:22,280 --> 00:58:26,040 superstars or the guys on teams where there's already 2 to 3 1150 00:58:26,040 --> 00:58:28,160 clear running backs, right? Like Jacksonville's a team where 1151 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,120 maybe they look at it, maybe they just like ETN and Bigsby. 1152 00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:32,720 And so they don't, they don't actually have to add a 1153 00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,920 legitimate third option. Or like, I really like the Buck 1154 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:40,240 situation where they have Irving and White and Tucker. 1155 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:43,760 Yeah, White, where it's like you have a little bit of protection 1156 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,920 where if you already have kind of a mediocre backup. 1157 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,920 Yeah. No, I think that's that's 1158 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,120 definitely like, I mean the Seahawks, right? 1159 00:58:53,120 --> 00:58:55,440 The Seahawks like pretty protected. 1160 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,040 Point out that a comment here, the offense you want is 1161 00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,840 Pacheco's. I I'll say I have taken Pacheco 1162 00:59:02,840 --> 00:59:05,280 now a little. I rarely take him, but if he 1163 00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:11,240 falls far enough, I'm like, OK, you know the number 2 running 1164 00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:15,080 back on the Chiefs because I'm kind of assuming he's the number 1165 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,600 2 to someone. You know, they, they, they draft 1166 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,440 someone or it's like a gross enough committee that he's 1167 00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:23,120 functionally #2. So if he's the number two, that 1168 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,280 means they don't, they don't draft anyone because because if 1169 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,960 they then he'd be the number 2 to hunt. 1170 00:59:27,400 --> 00:59:28,880 I know. Well, that's that I'm not a 1171 00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,760 Pacheco guy, but at a certain point you're like, I'm getting 1172 00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:36,680 the upside of he actually all just was that he was hurt last 1173 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:40,520 year and you get like, you know, he's the he actually is the one 1174 00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,080 for Patrick Mahomes. Like that's it. 1175 00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:47,040 If he's well outside the top 100 picks, it's there is upside, but 1176 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,720 he, I mean, he was one of the worst picks on the board for a 1177 00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:51,760 long time and he's fallen significantly since then. 1178 00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,800 Davis What is Kansas City doing with the second pick of the 1179 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:57,840 third round? Tennessee's pick? 1180 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,880 Probably. Trading. 1181 01:00:01,080 --> 01:00:03,560 Trading back, yeah. Sneed No, I didn't know how they 1182 01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:04,840 got it. I was wondering how they got the 1183 01:00:04,840 --> 01:00:08,200 second pick of the third round. But Lujarius. 1184 01:00:08,200 --> 01:00:10,240 Sneed, Yeah. People, people don't know Tyron 1185 01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,360 Tracy's 25. Yeah, I, I, I would say with 1186 01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:19,200 with like the Tracy thing, it's always helpful for me to like 1187 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,000 understand like what I'm paying for. 1188 01:00:21,400 --> 01:00:24,440 And with Tracy, you're paying for a second year breakout on a 1189 01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,680 team that we're not like that interested in and a guy with a 1190 01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,160 guy who like might have to be going against a rookie 1191 01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:32,400 ultimately. So it's like a lot to me. 1192 01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:36,400 I'm I love the Jerome Fordcom because I don't have to with 1193 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:37,600 Ford. I'm like, I'm not paying for 1194 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:40,320 anything. Like there is no upside in here 1195 01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:43,640 that like afford the player. You're just it's purely the 1196 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,560 role. So like anything you get from 1197 01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:52,600 Ford beyond, you know, 1B on the Browns is upside, including what 1198 01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:54,800 if he's 1A on the Browns, you know? 1199 01:00:55,960 --> 01:01:00,440 Right, running back 48. Just want to mention too, on 1200 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:06,560 that chart that says the rest Zach's line because we didn't 1201 01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:09,960 have enough carries from Travis Homer to qualify for a spider 1202 01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:13,440 chart. We did. 1203 01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:15,560 We did just zip through some some spider. 1204 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,560 Charts through all of these. Do we do we need to? 1205 01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:21,360 Is there any? Oh, these are actually pretty. 1206 01:01:21,600 --> 01:01:25,080 Awesome even even color theme by the way, these are. 1207 01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:27,720 The charts of the future. All right, so let's go through 1208 01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,320 this. So, so basically Tyron Tracy is 1209 01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:33,240 is just Devin Singletary again, not so great Mason and he's. 1210 01:01:33,440 --> 01:01:36,520 Not good. Jones are look, look like they 1211 01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:38,560 complement each other pretty well here, you'd say? 1212 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:39,800 Yeah. Yeah. 1213 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:44,760 Elusive rating PFF grade breakaway percentage Some of the 1214 01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:47,280 stats here that are being. Success rate, Yeah, analyzed. 1215 01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:50,440 We got Paul, we got the Pollard sphere, Star of David there. 1216 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:54,080 That's why they like them both, you know, they they go well 1217 01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:56,400 together. Ramandre and Antonio Gibson. 1218 01:01:56,600 --> 01:02:01,320 This this backfield is an interesting one because they 1219 01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,800 should I mean, first of all, they kind of replaced Gibson 1220 01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,320 last year with like Joe Michael Hasty. 1221 01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:08,440 So he's dangerous as hell. I mean, he doesn't need anything 1222 01:02:08,440 --> 01:02:12,400 to happen to be useless. Romandre is a little bit safer, 1223 01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:15,400 but you know, they could easily replace like he did not look 1224 01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:17,520 very good last year. He had a couple of moments, but 1225 01:02:18,560 --> 01:02:21,760 largely not not great. And you? 1226 01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:23,600 Know that one game they said they were going to bench him and 1227 01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:25,000 they didn't. They forgot or whatever that 1228 01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:27,200 was, they forgot. To bench him for fumbling, yeah. 1229 01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:30,240 Yeah, real master. Class of coaching there. 1230 01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:33,080 They really. Forgot to me Gerard Mail just 1231 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:35,720 like was like, yeah, totally. Never mind, that's my mind, 1232 01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:37,720 right? Wait, is that 38? 1233 01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:39,240 God damn it, who let him on the field? 1234 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:42,000 No, he didn't even realize. After we talked about this, 1235 01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:43,200 didn't. You say he's going to bench me. 1236 01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,440 He's like I did say. That we talked about this, yes, 1237 01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:51,920 yeah. Really like what would happen if 1238 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,480 Michael Scott coached at NFL team. 1239 01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:55,680 It's like the Gerard Mail experience. 1240 01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,280 It's a new regime so they could eat, but they have so many 1241 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,160 needs. Can you see the Patriots not 1242 01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,760 bringing someone in? Have you ever met Mike Vrabel? 1243 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:08,160 I was going to say except Vrabel is like first position to solve 1244 01:03:08,360 --> 01:03:11,480 running back. Yeah, no, you're right. 1245 01:03:11,480 --> 01:03:13,760 Like Mike Vrabel's like, look, we haven't addressed the offense 1246 01:03:13,840 --> 01:03:15,320 yet. And by addressed the offense, I 1247 01:03:15,320 --> 01:03:18,160 mean Trayvon Henderson in round two, and we haven't taken a wide 1248 01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:20,680 receiver yet. Or Genti at four. 1249 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:23,560 Could that happen? Literally then. 1250 01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:26,280 Could you imagine the draft stream? 1251 01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:31,520 Chasing drafts for me when Ashton Jetty comes off the board 1252 01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,560 at pick #4 would be incredible moment. 1253 01:03:34,720 --> 01:03:37,320 I've been like a quasi Patriots fan since they drafted May 1254 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,240 because I love that. Arranges doing the surrender 1255 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:40,440 cobra. I would be out. 1256 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:41,880 I would be out. Am I? 1257 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:44,800 The quasi fandom would be over if they took Gentie at 4:00 with 1258 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,320 the number of needs they have. You know, offensive line, you 1259 01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:50,520 know. Apologies to your friend Jacob, 1260 01:03:50,520 --> 01:03:51,920 but the offensive line is terrible. 1261 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,760 So weird. Hey, I've heard it's getting 1262 01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,320 better. Both can be true. 1263 01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:00,880 Both can be true. That is unfortunately true. 1264 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,080 ETN and Bixby pair together pretty well here. 1265 01:04:05,080 --> 01:04:08,520 Look at these routes. Yeah, run a lot of routes. 1266 01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:13,080 Dream Hunt is just better I. See it better Pacheco. 1267 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,160 That is rough. I wish I looked at this chart 1268 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:18,800 before saying he was drafted. For the audio listeners we have, 1269 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:21,640 it's basically it's a circle like those combine charts and 1270 01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,760 then they get these little dots that extend out if you're doing 1271 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:26,720 better, and then they're closer to the center of the circle if 1272 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,120 you're doing worse. And the Chiefs chart is just an 1273 01:04:29,120 --> 01:04:33,240 Isaiah Pacheco rectangle that is entirely inside of the larger 1274 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,120 Kareem Hut rectangle that actually. 1275 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:38,600 Understates how bad it is. It's entirely inside and you 1276 01:04:38,600 --> 01:04:42,240 could fit two of them inside of this rectangle. 1277 01:04:43,360 --> 01:04:46,520 It's a sideways Washington Capitals logo, somehow. 1278 01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,080 Yeah, and again, this is like 37 year old Kareem Hunt who was out 1279 01:04:51,080 --> 01:04:55,400 of the NFL for a year. By the way, this is PFF grade on 1280 01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,840 routes, so PFF receiving grade I suppose. 1281 01:04:59,800 --> 01:05:06,000 Yeah, of sorts. Cream hunt Long of 20 yards. 1282 01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:10,360 Seattle career, Two really good running backs. 1283 01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:11,680 I guess that's what happened last season. 1284 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:13,360 Draft them back-to-back in Round 2. 1285 01:05:13,960 --> 01:05:17,440 This chart perfectly I mean, that does make you feel good 1286 01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,520 about the metrics when you see that Zach Charbonnet is 1287 01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:21,800 literally just Walker again and that we know that to be true. 1288 01:05:21,880 --> 01:05:25,560 Yeah, Robinson Robinson's a dude I'm not really taking because 1289 01:05:25,680 --> 01:05:28,560 I'm like what is the upside? Like he's. 1290 01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:29,680 We got it last year. That's. 1291 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:30,640 Right. We got it last year. 1292 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,400 It's the same. The upside would be the same, 1293 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:35,160 absolutely. One team, fun team to think 1294 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,400 about adding a a good rookie. I mean, there are just so many. 1295 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,360 When you, when you gave Davis the Chiefs question and rattled 1296 01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:43,840 off 5 or 6 names about who might be great there. 1297 01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,280 Washington, you know, there are other teams where you could have 1298 01:05:46,280 --> 01:05:49,520 the same conversation. I talked to Scott Barrett from 1299 01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,560 Fantasy points last week and we're talking about James Cook 1300 01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:54,720 and Buffalo Cook. I'm not sure it's going to get 1301 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,200 to a point where it's a holdout, but like just what is that? 1302 01:05:57,560 --> 01:05:59,600 And like, you know, I don't even care who you are basically. 1303 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,880 What's this point in in the fourth round on Saturday? 1304 01:06:01,880 --> 01:06:02,880 You're picking one of these guys. 1305 01:06:02,880 --> 01:06:05,600 There's just so many that have real life. 1306 01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,440 And Robinson, I'm a Brian Robinson appreciator compared to 1307 01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,200 probably most fantasy players, but it is kind of a waste to 1308 01:06:13,200 --> 01:06:15,640 have Brian Robinson there when you have Jayden Daniels. 1309 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:21,560 Like if you have the extreme threat Russian quarterback, you 1310 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,840 don't really want like just kind of applauding hammer. 1311 01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,880 You you want like not the reliable decision maker guy. 1312 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:29,800 You want the fast guy. You want the guy who's going to 1313 01:06:29,800 --> 01:06:31,680 be the win more running back, who's going to create those 1314 01:06:31,680 --> 01:06:34,040 explosive plays who's get baseball two advantage of the 1315 01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:36,400 big lanes. Yeah, like get get someone with 1316 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:40,840 some juice and have some fun. I agree and I've been pro Brian 1317 01:06:40,840 --> 01:06:43,040 Robinson. Davis was the the first Brian 1318 01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:45,320 Robinson Bowl here, saying coaches were going to love him 1319 01:06:45,560 --> 01:06:46,920 back when he was up. Guys like that. 1320 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,680 And and they did, yeah, they did. 1321 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,080 So I. This is a Brian Robinson show, 1322 01:06:53,080 --> 01:06:58,760 to be honest, but we're still it's just like, man, we're 1323 01:06:58,760 --> 01:07:02,720 taking on risk with all these guys and to not have much upside 1324 01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:04,760 beyond what we got last year, which was good. 1325 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:07,000 But like then he goes back to this range. 1326 01:07:07,400 --> 01:07:09,120 You know, we're like, thank you, Brian Robinson. 1327 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,560 Go back to where we we're going to put you back where we found 1328 01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:13,120 you in ADP. Go. 1329 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,440 Back in the box. Go back in the box. 1330 01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:18,800 It's just a little. I just want to know that I 1331 01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:21,840 actually have that bet again, even if I have to pay a little 1332 01:07:21,840 --> 01:07:23,960 more for it. It's just there's a lot of risk 1333 01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:25,240 to take on, not not a ton of upside. 1334 01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:32,440 Is Eckler dead? Eckler, I take him occasionally, 1335 01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,520 but I mean we're. We're near the end. 1336 01:07:35,880 --> 01:07:38,560 It is another one of these charts where the boxes look 1337 01:07:38,560 --> 01:07:41,080 pretty similar. Yeah. 1338 01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:45,480 By the way, Jack, Jack's calling me out for drafting Pacheco also 1339 01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:49,760 taking three quarter, I think they were JJ McCarthy, Cam Ward 1340 01:07:49,760 --> 01:07:51,600 and Chador. I got boxed out a little bit. 1341 01:07:52,080 --> 01:07:55,920 I actually timed out on Pacheco there and. 1342 01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,280 Still counts. Still. 1343 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:03,400 Counts your own rankings. He timed out on him because he 1344 01:08:03,400 --> 01:08:07,120 had fallen a lot past ADP. He was the top guy in the by ADP 1345 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,560 so. But yeah, Pacheco's not a fun 1346 01:08:09,560 --> 01:08:11,560 click. You don't have them set up by 1347 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,240 your own rankings. No, I I use ADP in the app. 1348 01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:18,960 I have a sidekick I'd like to see kind of the market and then 1349 01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,240 if the sidekicks help me out with the ranks, then I don't 1350 01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,439 need double ranks. OK. 1351 01:08:25,680 --> 01:08:29,560 Lastly, in terms of the slides, a slide from Sam, who is the 1352 01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,520 mystery wide receiver. We have Joshua Palmer, Darius 1353 01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:38,240 Slayton, both in big money territory this year through free 1354 01:08:38,240 --> 01:08:41,920 agency, career yards per hour run, you know, T. 1355 01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:44,120 Higgins, T Higgins. That is T Higgins. 1356 01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:47,439 He only got the $10 million technically guaranteed. 1357 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:50,240 Now this this asterisk here is sort of important. 1358 01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,080 It says in games selected by Sam Sherman. 1359 01:08:52,080 --> 01:08:58,479 So yeah, I think I'm not sure. I'll go ahead and say T Higgins. 1360 01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:01,359 Oh, it's 22 at. One it's 22 at 1:00. 1361 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:06,279 So I I'm assuming those games are the non I I'm assuming 1362 01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:08,240 they're the non Cooper cup games probably. 1363 01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,000 That's silhouette of T Higgins. Well, T Higgins. 1364 01:09:17,720 --> 01:09:20,279 Fake outline. Next level. 1365 01:09:21,560 --> 01:09:24,479 He heard us say it last week, Davis, How we knew or whenever 1366 01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:26,680 it was recently we knew who it was by the outline. 1367 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,720 He heard that and he he took it to. 1368 01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:31,319 Heart Damn. The great ones are always 1369 01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:34,960 innovating, yeah. That's truly an innovation. 1370 01:09:35,880 --> 01:09:38,040 I've been an outline maven this whole time to be honest. 1371 01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:44,560 Yeah. So finally, we don't have to be 1372 01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:48,840 short here if we don't want to, but this idea of mine was we've 1373 01:09:48,840 --> 01:09:50,520 talked about like the very end of drafts. 1374 01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:53,760 I'm thinking back to a show we did together last year when I 1375 01:09:53,760 --> 01:09:55,720 stepped in with the deep end Invitational draft. 1376 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:58,840 And Pat, I remember asking you guys like, who is somebody that 1377 01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:00,960 you haven't drafted at all? I mean, that's like July or 1378 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:05,200 August that maybe would give you some trepidation and we can 1379 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:06,960 figure out a way to sort of track this. 1380 01:10:06,960 --> 01:10:10,960 I'll certainly keep track. But how to score it round 20 or 1381 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:14,240 as we get to best Ball Mania round 18, that last pick, you 1382 01:10:14,240 --> 01:10:16,800 know, regardless of of correlation, I would say 1383 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:20,160 probably just somebody that you think might have, you know, some 1384 01:10:20,160 --> 01:10:22,360 real upside picked at the very end. 1385 01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:25,240 Let's set an ADP. That's that we can 200 1386 01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:27,400 throughout the whole. 202 hundred or two. 100. 1387 01:10:27,400 --> 01:10:31,400 Ten, I guess a 200 yeah cuz it gets. 200 and. 16 and. 1388 01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:36,880 Yeah, 200 works. 200 or higher. So I'm not the graphic designer 1389 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:40,960 in the in the family, but I do have an Excel spreadsheet where 1390 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:42,880 I'm just going to sort of enter these names as we go. 1391 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:46,800 I'll share that, you know, even if it's embarrassing for me to 1392 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,640 do but yeah, so I don't know. Anybody want to start? 1393 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:54,880 I'll do, I'll do mine. I got. 1394 01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:56,360 One put it all right. I'll go first, David. 1395 01:10:56,920 --> 01:10:58,200 All right, mine. What are we hang on? 1396 01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,080 What are we trying to? What are we judging this by? 1397 01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,800 Are we judging this by So once they score? 1398 01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,360 We, yeah, if we, as we go through the season, guys that 1399 01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:10,040 have really like made a difference, come up with some 1400 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,720 kind of way to score it just maybe just an eye test thing. 1401 01:11:12,720 --> 01:11:15,000 But yeah, we're looking for. Players using the eye test, 1402 01:11:15,160 --> 01:11:16,640 that's not going to work. OK, fine. 1403 01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:19,480 We're looking for guys that. Are in a competitive game, the 1404 01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:23,520 eye test would be good. And I can't share the screen 1405 01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:26,280 anyway, but like, yeah, we're looking for guys who are going 1406 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,120 to do it. By the eye test, I think I won, 1407 01:11:28,600 --> 01:11:31,840 yeah. Well, that's is that kind of how 1408 01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,200 you did it before? No. 1409 01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:36,280 We. Did it to win? 1410 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,640 Yeah, but we did it by. We measured, we measured ADP 1411 01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,800 closing line value. So if you picked a guy who was 1412 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:48,080 going 60 and then they ended up at 40, that was a huge win 1413 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:49,880 because it was done by percentage. 1414 01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:54,480 If you pick a guy who's going to 10 and he goes 150, that is 1415 01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:59,040 still big, but not as big as, you know, 60 to 30 or whatever. 1416 01:11:59,880 --> 01:12:02,240 Well, we'll figure something out, but I I was thinking that 1417 01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,880 it would be by performance, not just trends. 1418 01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:06,720 Yeah. So we're going by points. 1419 01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:09,680 We're, we are, we're is being judged by points scored. 1420 01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,200 Right, with the fundamentally idea being, you know, you're 1421 01:12:14,200 --> 01:12:16,520 still shooting, It's still. Yeah, not, not really. 1422 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:18,720 Mania, you're not. You're not playing for the floor 1423 01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,320 here. Well, you can I guess do what 1424 01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:21,680 you want. Not not really in the theme of 1425 01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:23,800 the show to try and help people and give good picks. 1426 01:12:23,800 --> 01:12:25,160 So it's a little bit of a bummer. 1427 01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,280 But I know we're we're really going out of the limb here. 1428 01:12:28,240 --> 01:12:29,760 Yeah. Well, Dave, do you have one? 1429 01:12:29,760 --> 01:12:31,320 Should we do? Should we just do points in week 1430 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:36,240 15 to 17? Sure, but time stamp it points 1431 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,840 weeks 15 to 17. Nice and chaotic. 1432 01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:45,120 Yeah, I will take Laquint Allen Junior, the leading pass 1433 01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:48,520 catching running back in college football last season. 1434 01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,480 He's Dylan Lauby with some Jews. People are saying more and more 1435 01:12:53,880 --> 01:13:01,440 he's he is probably outside of Genti Trayvion and Giddens, the 1436 01:13:01,440 --> 01:13:05,160 best pass catching running back in the class, which I, I mean, 1437 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,840 he's not going to go day 2, But if a team did take him day 2, 1438 01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,360 I'd be like, well, I get it, you know, I mean, it's, it's the 1439 01:13:10,360 --> 01:13:13,520 more scarce thing. I think it's pretty wide range, 1440 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:17,760 like he could go late day two, he could go like 6th, you know, 1441 01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:18,440 but he's. Yeah. 1442 01:13:18,480 --> 01:13:20,480 I mean, yeah, he could. He could be a real faller. 1443 01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:24,320 Yeah, but yeah, pass catching running back, definitely 1444 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:27,200 intriguing. You think it's better to play 1445 01:13:27,280 --> 01:13:31,960 rookies at this early stage for this game than that's? 1446 01:13:32,080 --> 01:13:36,560 Well, I'm, I'm playing a rookie. The year's 2021. 1447 01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:44,440 All right, there's a team that has future superstar Malik 1448 01:13:44,440 --> 01:13:47,880 Neighbors has 28 catches. Future superstar Brian Thomas 1449 01:13:47,880 --> 01:13:51,440 has 28 catches. Future NFL or Trey Palmer and 1450 01:13:51,440 --> 01:13:56,320 Keyshawn Bute have 30 catches and 38 catches, but freshman 1451 01:13:56,320 --> 01:14:02,200 Jack Bash beats them all with 43 catches on the 2021 LSU Tigers. 1452 01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:07,240 People hate, I think he's. Going to be a round two pick. 1453 01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:10,840 He fits perfectly as the F wide receiver in the modern NFL. 1454 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:14,280 Like there's no player in this class who to me more perfectly 1455 01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:17,120 fits for the NF LS going than Jack Bash. 1456 01:14:17,480 --> 01:14:21,920 I think he's a very underrated profile based on that beginning 1457 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,440 to his career. I also think he passes the eye 1458 01:14:24,440 --> 01:14:28,960 test show and going currently outside the top 200. 1459 01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:31,880 I think he's he's a guy that I can see going a lot higher and 1460 01:14:32,000 --> 01:14:33,320 and having a really strong end of season. 1461 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:38,840 OK. We, we should talk about the the 1462 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:43,160 latest mock draft sort of trends when it comes to the receivers. 1463 01:14:43,160 --> 01:14:45,600 I've been seeing more and more often like one in the first 1464 01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,720 round. Besh had kind of his moment at 1465 01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:53,200 the Senior Bowl and was, you know, really kind of that like, 1466 01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,880 hey, like why why take this guy in the 1st if you can get Jack 1467 01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:59,640 Besh in the second guy that that's now Jaden Higgins. 1468 01:14:59,640 --> 01:15:01,760 I would say a little bit more from what I'm hearing, like, 1469 01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,480 look, you know, Jaden Higgins is like your plug in, you know, 1470 01:15:05,480 --> 01:15:07,360 arbitrage wide receiver in the second. 1471 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,400 I don't think that means Besh is necessarily not going to go 1472 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,160 second. I do think he maybe it's 1473 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,360 slipping like slightly, I'm just not hearing as much about him. 1474 01:15:15,360 --> 01:15:17,520 So I'm wondering if maybe he's a third rounder, but I think he 1475 01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:21,360 goes day 2. Kyle Williams, by the way, for 1476 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:22,320 this. Target for sure. 1477 01:15:22,920 --> 01:15:26,200 Kyle Williams was just Chris Sims, wide receiver 2. 1478 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,880 Chris Sims Chris Sims loves this. 1479 01:15:29,880 --> 01:15:33,160 I mean Chris Sims fetish is releasing the worst rankings 1480 01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:37,640 you've ever seen and then having everyone yell at it like it's 1481 01:15:37,640 --> 01:15:39,800 like, you know that tweet that's like I'm not quote tweeting 1482 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,280 this. That's someone who's clearly has 1483 01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:45,320 a fetish for getting yelled at. I mean that is that is literally 1484 01:15:45,920 --> 01:15:49,760 he does this every year with the worst and and the guy by the 1485 01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:51,520 way, he. Kind of hit last year, though, 1486 01:15:51,560 --> 01:15:53,480 he had Brian Thomas, the head of Marvin Harrison. 1487 01:15:55,000 --> 01:15:56,160 Dude here. Here's process. 1488 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:59,000 He had Roman Wilson in his top five also on that job. 1489 01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:01,920 He goes and watches the tape and he doesn't, he doesn't like cut 1490 01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,800 it with anything. It's just his tape. 1491 01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:05,360 Just. Unadulterated tape. 1492 01:16:05,480 --> 01:16:09,800 Which frankly respect like I have not like my rankings 1493 01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:12,200 include it's some expected draft capital. 1494 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:14,880 You know, that's me saying, OK, let the market can have it say a 1495 01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,680 little here. You know, it's predictive. 1496 01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:18,720 I stand by it as a process, but it is. 1497 01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:22,040 It is. I mean, it takes some balls to 1498 01:16:22,040 --> 01:16:25,640 just be like, I'm gonna go do one thing and then put rankings 1499 01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:28,040 out on that thing. He's like a monk. 1500 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:31,560 He goes into the Tate monastery, He shuts out the entire outside 1501 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,200 world. He doesn't know anything about 1502 01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:35,880 the stats, He doesn't know anything about the draft 1503 01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:38,240 capital. He just he goes into the 1504 01:16:38,240 --> 01:16:41,240 monastery, he emerges White smoke. 1505 01:16:42,040 --> 01:16:44,360 We're we're mixing several different religions now and then 1506 01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:48,600 his rankings, his rankings come out and and sometimes he hits 1507 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,600 the beauty of having like multiple preposterous rankings 1508 01:16:52,920 --> 01:16:55,960 is that you only have to hit on one and then you can defend him, 1509 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:57,040 right. So it's like, because he had 1510 01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:01,280 Thomas over Harrison, no one gets to be like, why is Roman 1511 01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,360 Wilson in your top five? Like, yeah, right, right. 1512 01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:09,200 Yeah, no, he was really in on Christian Watson, which was a, 1513 01:17:09,600 --> 01:17:12,280 which was a good take like that. At the time people were not 1514 01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,280 thinking he was going to go second rounds. 1515 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:17,120 He also was really out on Garrett Wilson and Chris Olavey 1516 01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:19,120 in that class. I was in the trailing Brooks 1517 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,000 though. So you know, we all have our 1518 01:17:21,000 --> 01:17:23,880 misses, but. Do you do you guys think though 1519 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,680 that like just paying attention to the MCSHEA stuff and just 1520 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:32,240 draft predictions that it could end up with only one in the 1521 01:17:32,240 --> 01:17:35,440 first round? I mean, burden or golden it'll 1522 01:17:35,440 --> 01:17:36,000 be. It'll. 1523 01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:40,280 Be it'll be two, it'll be golden, golden and Tet. 1524 01:17:40,960 --> 01:17:43,840 By the way, there are people who have been historically so 1525 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:47,080 triggered by Chris Simms rankings that you can go and 1526 01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,400 find them in a Google sheet on the Internet that I currently 1527 01:17:49,400 --> 01:17:51,760 have pulled up. My my current favorite from 1528 01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:55,920 looking at this is Jeremy Rucker over Trey McBride in in that 1529 01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:58,160 class. Just just looking at this very 1530 01:17:58,160 --> 01:18:00,600 quickly. Damien Pierce ahead of James 1531 01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,240 Cook, Roshawn Johnson ahead of Chase Brown. 1532 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:08,840 I, I remember at least a 24 hour period of I think he had Alec 1533 01:18:08,840 --> 01:18:10,600 Pierce like it's wide receiver two or three. 1534 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:13,200 And then I remember after the Colts drafted him, I remember 1535 01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:16,120 having like, at least a stretch being like, maybe Chris Sims is 1536 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:17,440 right. Yeah, yeah. 1537 01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:19,760 Paris Campbell 4 spots ahead of A.J. 1538 01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:22,120 Brown in 2019. Just, well, so did Chris 1539 01:18:22,120 --> 01:18:29,560 Ballard. Of course, this doesn't include 1540 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,080 Travis Hunter, by the way. This. 1541 01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:34,800 I I'm pretty sure that we took, I might have the wrong loser, 1542 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,760 but I think I remember the Colts were up with a chance to take 1543 01:18:37,760 --> 01:18:39,000 A.J. Brown and I knew we were going 1544 01:18:39,000 --> 01:18:40,400 to take a wide receiver in that draft. 1545 01:18:40,440 --> 01:18:44,320 And we ended up taking, I think it was Ben Banagu or some dude 1546 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:45,320 instead. And then A.J. 1547 01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,520 Brown goes to the Titans and we end up taking Campbell. 1548 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,640 And I was at like a work dinner and I like was like, please 1549 01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:52,040 excuse me, I need to go to the washroom. 1550 01:18:52,040 --> 01:18:55,040 And then I went to the washroom and then I just, like, grabbed a 1551 01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,880 bunch of toilet paper and I screamed into it for like a 1552 01:18:57,880 --> 01:19:01,480 solid like a minute. Cathartic. 1553 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,640 Hopefully. Yeah, it's painful. 1554 01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:07,080 Painful. I like that that was your 1555 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:11,760 initial reaction and it is aged as badly as you could have ever. 1556 01:19:12,040 --> 01:19:14,080 Yeah, that was weird. I'm not always right on these 1557 01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:17,680 steaks, but I remember like that one, I was like very sure that 1558 01:19:17,680 --> 01:19:20,360 like we should be taking A.J. Brown and not these other goofs. 1559 01:19:20,640 --> 01:19:23,160 I would have been, I would have been OK with Metcalf, but it was 1560 01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,080 like as soon as we took Paris Campbell, it's one of those 1561 01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,560 where I was like, this isn't going to work. 1562 01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:31,640 Last draft where 1 receiver only went in the first round. 2006 1563 01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,320 Santonio Holmes last time that happened. 1564 01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:35,760 We didn't. We didn't get to play. 1565 01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,960 Guess that one receiver. Oh, sorry, yeah, no mystery 1566 01:19:38,960 --> 01:19:42,520 receiver too late. Where are you guys at on Golden? 1567 01:19:42,520 --> 01:19:45,600 Cuz finally have flipped him over. 1568 01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:50,080 Burden and Ibuko kind of been like like it's been sort of like 1569 01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:53,480 waffling a little bit, like bring him back, you know, back 1570 01:19:53,480 --> 01:19:55,800 and forth. There been like all in one group 1571 01:19:56,440 --> 01:19:59,320 for a while, but at this point he's passed them. 1572 01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:02,160 I think he kind of continues to put distance as we get close to 1573 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:04,360 the draft because it's like very clear that he's going to go 1574 01:20:04,360 --> 01:20:07,560 first round. It is no longer clear. 1575 01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:11,920 That Ibuka goes first round and it seems like a like burden now 1576 01:20:11,920 --> 01:20:13,560 seems like a dog to go first round. 1577 01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,600 So after the draft we're going to be taking second round burden 1578 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:20,960 over potentially top 15 golden. I I don't think we are. 1579 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,840 So I'm kind of like. I don't think golden is much 1580 01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,280 better than 5050 to be in the first round either. 1581 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:32,120 I think he's like 9010. He's like he's, he's 50. 50 I 1582 01:20:32,120 --> 01:20:34,480 think he's better than 5050 to. Yeah, exactly. 1583 01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:36,760 Yeah, I put it 50 really to be the wide receiver one in the 1584 01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,400 class, Yeah. I I put more like 7030. 1585 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,360 Did he go before McMillan? I I have golden first wide 1586 01:20:44,360 --> 01:20:48,160 receiver at I think plus 170, yeah. 1587 01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,360 Yeah, yeah, that sounds about right to me. 1588 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:53,360 And and he could get like the the landing spots are pretty 1589 01:20:53,360 --> 01:20:56,240 good. It's not all of them, but I 1590 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:59,120 mean, if he were to go 12 to the Cowboys, like, that's pretty 1591 01:20:59,120 --> 01:21:01,600 good. That feels like a thing that's 1592 01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:04,600 happening. So, all right, I don't really 1593 01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:08,560 like Golden that much as a prospect, but if we're talking 1594 01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,400 about a guy going 12 to the Cowboys, he's way too cheap, 1595 01:21:12,480 --> 01:21:14,160 right? Like both things can be true. 1596 01:21:15,160 --> 01:21:23,360 Yeah, I mean, Rugs won 11 to the Raiders, but yeah, it's it's 1597 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:25,880 worth a shot, right. Like there's, there's an element 1598 01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:30,400 of of humility to it that is necessary and you get the 1599 01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:32,600 outside and it's going to be a good best ball archetype. 1600 01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:37,000 Like I would be way more. My guess is is that I will be 1601 01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:41,160 more interested in taking a bunch of golden on the what if 1602 01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:46,080 I'm wrong case in best ball rather than taking a bunch from 1603 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:47,360 the dinosaur. Yeah, I agree. 1604 01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,880 I would rather take the shot in best ball and and hope that I'm 1605 01:21:50,880 --> 01:21:52,960 wrong and that I'm wrong in a way that's really exciting for 1606 01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:55,520 that format. And then, you know, you, you get 1607 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:59,120 paid off with a few big touchdowns in the in the fantasy 1608 01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:00,880 playoffs. I was reading Matt Harmon's 1609 01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:03,120 profile on him and he was kind of comparing him to Jordan 1610 01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:06,480 Addison as far as the, I think the quality of route runner, not 1611 01:22:06,480 --> 01:22:08,440 necessarily exactly the same play style. 1612 01:22:08,440 --> 01:22:13,520 But and like, yeah, you know, if you get kind of an Addison level 1613 01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:17,320 #2 type of production out of this guy, like with CD Lamb, 1614 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:21,480 that's pretty good where he's going in basketball right now. 1615 01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:27,280 If that's the play in dynasty, I'm not that interested because 1616 01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:30,840 I think the floor is pretty low. But and if the ceiling is like 1617 01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:34,920 he's you know, you get a long term really strong #2 type of 1618 01:22:35,200 --> 01:22:37,120 what, you know, a real life NFL wide receiver. 1619 01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:42,040 But I mean, yeah, in best ball you could argue he's still he's 1620 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:44,040 like maybe a round or two underpriced. 1621 01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,520 I mean he could easily be a fifth round pick post draft, 1622 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:50,640 right? Buddy, if he's the freaking 12th 1623 01:22:50,640 --> 01:22:56,120 pick to the Cowboys. Higher than that, yeah. 3-4 1624 01:22:56,120 --> 01:22:59,080 turn. Yeah, we'll see. 1625 01:22:59,080 --> 01:23:02,360 With his underdog screenshots, we'll just be like 37% Chief 1626 01:23:02,360 --> 01:23:05,520 Sumerian Hampton, 36% Cowboys Matthew Gold. 1627 01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:09,680 I mean golden also would be interesting for. 1628 01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,480 Sure. No, God, the Packers are not 1629 01:23:11,480 --> 01:23:13,560 spending a first round pick on a wide receiver. 1630 01:23:13,560 --> 01:23:15,320 Their fans want them to do it. Too bad. 1631 01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:18,040 Yeah. They're they're they, they would 1632 01:23:18,040 --> 01:23:21,360 just, they would like accept like Nick Nash in the first 1633 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:23,880 round just to show that Goot is taking it seriously. 1634 01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:27,760 But like, you know, he's going to be like, you know, we have, 1635 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,600 we have Jack Bash at home or, or we have, I don't know who's the 1636 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:34,240 most boring, who's like more boring than Igbuca? 1637 01:23:34,280 --> 01:23:36,320 Who who's like the more boring Igbuca? 1638 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:38,880 Xavier Restrepo. Oh my. 1639 01:23:40,320 --> 01:23:42,480 God, we didn't even we didn't even talk about this man. 1640 01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,200 Dude, there were there were there were people, there were 1641 01:23:46,200 --> 01:23:49,040 people tweeting yesterday that the hand timers there had him in 1642 01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:53,120 the fives. Why run? 1643 01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:55,360 You think you? Right. 1644 01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,400 Like who you been testing at that he thought it was worth it 1645 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,040 like he was hoping to get 468. Like what? 1646 01:24:01,040 --> 01:24:03,040 What are we? Just don't run. 1647 01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:05,800 We'll fill it in optimistically. In our minds. 1648 01:24:05,880 --> 01:24:09,360 He's probably 468. Because it's like worse than 1649 01:24:09,360 --> 01:24:10,800 could have possibly imagined, right? 1650 01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:13,040 Like if he doesn't run, you'd be like, oh man, like he must be a 1651 01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:15,240 four six guy. Like Scataboo is coming out, no? 1652 01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:16,840 One would have thought he's a four right now. 1653 01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,800 Like Scataboo just was like, whatever the time is, you don't 1654 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,320 get to know it. You'll never know. 1655 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,680 You'll never, you'll never know. That's my grave. 1656 01:24:26,320 --> 01:24:28,520 But but once scataboo. When he gets in the NFL, he's 1657 01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:30,760 gonna be digging that chip out, That GPS chip. 1658 01:24:30,760 --> 01:24:34,960 He's like, no, no. We're not discovering my high 1659 01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,240 end speed. Doctor Rigami is pulling it 1660 01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:41,680 right out of his head. Yeah. 1661 01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:46,080 Does it kill Restrepo? Yes, he he's, he's undraftable 1662 01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:49,680 now. Yeah, he's, he's undraftable. 1663 01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,240 He's undraftable. You can you can say even like 1664 01:24:52,240 --> 01:24:56,680 the most like trust the tape guys on my timeline like like 1665 01:24:56,680 --> 01:25:00,320 Ray GQ, who's like a classic, like trust the tape person. 1666 01:25:00,680 --> 01:25:03,720 He's like on Twitter being like, bro, that shit's embarrassing. 1667 01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:07,680 Like, and it's like he's correct, like crutches tweeted. 1668 01:25:07,680 --> 01:25:10,320 There's there's only so much trust you can have in the tape 1669 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:13,600 when you run a 48 like that is. One of your guys? 1670 01:25:13,840 --> 01:25:15,600 Is Jarvis Landry and no one else. 1671 01:25:16,480 --> 01:25:18,320 Yeah, the .26 Rats, one of the guys. 1672 01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:20,080 Well, there are some of the guys. 1673 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,760 Juwan Jennings was in the Four Sevens. 1674 01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,840 Yeah, there's some dude like Steven Johnson ran in the Four 1675 01:25:27,840 --> 01:25:28,320 Sevens. Right. 1676 01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:31,240 Juwan Jennings was in the Four Sevens and Xavier Restrepo was 1677 01:25:31,240 --> 01:25:33,240 not. Some hand timers had him in like 1678 01:25:33,240 --> 01:25:37,160 477 he he got OK the the the quickest hand timers. 1679 01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:41,760 There's hand timers. Get it together Hand timers 5. 2 1680 01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,640 is so outrageous. I, I want to say it was Trevor 1681 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,440 Sikkima who tweeted that some people had him in the fives. 1682 01:25:48,440 --> 01:25:50,520 It, it might not have been Trevor, but someone said they 1683 01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:54,280 had him in the fives, which is just like, man, I might be able 1684 01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:56,400 to go out and run a 55. You know what I'm? 1685 01:25:56,400 --> 01:25:59,760 Saying someone someone had the cop of him to Tristan werfs they 1686 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:05,880 had like the same time. Yeah, I saw that too. 1687 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:13,240 That's good. I'm just picturing your screen 1688 01:26:13,240 --> 01:26:16,200 where like they do a tunnel screen to restrepo and worse is 1689 01:26:16,200 --> 01:26:17,960 out there blocking. Restrepo and the guard and the 1690 01:26:17,960 --> 01:26:22,240 guard he gets. He gets chased down by a 1691 01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:27,800 defensive end on a screen. Restrepo technically ineligible 1692 01:26:27,800 --> 01:26:30,520 for our for our game. Yes. 1693 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,120 Ineligible for our game at ADP of 195. 1694 01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:36,960 Wow, I'll. Play together now for long, you 1695 01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,800 can take it. Next to learn eligible buddy. 1696 01:26:39,560 --> 01:26:41,320 Next week I'm I'm jumping on that. 1697 01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,480 Yeah, he might not be an eligible wide receiver if he's 1698 01:26:44,480 --> 01:26:46,640 going to convert to tackle, but he will be eligible for our 1699 01:26:46,640 --> 01:26:49,920 game. Yeah, points are points, Jacob. 1700 01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:53,000 Points are points. Pat, you have a rookie in mind 1701 01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:54,480 for this? I was going to go the veteran 1702 01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:57,600 route. Oh, I I was going to go. 1703 01:26:57,600 --> 01:26:58,480 Let's see. I'll go. 1704 01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:01,600 Will Shipley. Will Shipley chasing. 1705 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,720 Oh yeah, I think this is one of the backfields, right, Jacob 1706 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:06,520 said. Who's not going to add anybody. 1707 01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:09,520 The Eagles probably unlikely to add anybody now. 1708 01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:12,400 They they could, but it'll be probably day three. 1709 01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:17,560 Shipley Shipley's, you know, was an somewhat interesting prospect 1710 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:23,080 last year and like, although Barkley proved last year that he 1711 01:27:23,080 --> 01:27:26,760 is absolutely elite, the situation is quite good. 1712 01:27:26,800 --> 01:27:29,120 It's quite conducive to running back points. 1713 01:27:29,960 --> 01:27:32,440 I think if you you were to throw Shipley in there now with 1714 01:27:32,440 --> 01:27:35,840 Gainwell gone, Gainwell's in Pittsburgh now, you could be 1715 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:38,120 looking at him turning in some really. 1716 01:27:38,120 --> 01:27:41,880 I mean, I could outscore you Did you took Laquin Allen. 1717 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:45,280 I I might need one game in those three weeks from from Will 1718 01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:50,000 Shipley to to cover up Harry. Yeah, right. 1719 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:54,080 What are the odds? Eagles out of AJ Dillon. 1720 01:27:54,200 --> 01:27:55,840 I'm not too concerned about that. 1721 01:27:56,400 --> 01:28:00,120 Gainwell isn't a bad idea here either by the way, I think. 1722 01:28:00,200 --> 01:28:01,600 But. Gainwell. 1723 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,920 All right, Yeah, for Pittsburgh. Yeah. 1724 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,040 They do. Jalen Warren. 1725 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,440 Not knowing not knowing which teams are going to stay away 1726 01:28:09,440 --> 01:28:11,960 from running back in the draft makes this obviously a huge a 1727 01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,640 huge guess. I'm going to take Diane Brown 1728 01:28:14,840 --> 01:28:17,840 for mine. Got paid in Jacksonville. 1729 01:28:17,840 --> 01:28:20,240 We've already you guys have said it today yourselves like the 1730 01:28:20,240 --> 01:28:25,520 offense kind of a slept on team slept on player space has been 1731 01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:28,000 cleared there. The money better and best ball. 1732 01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:32,120 So he'll be my first pick and last call. 1733 01:28:32,120 --> 01:28:36,480 We're calling it Diane Brown. Last call, last call for takes. 1734 01:28:37,040 --> 01:28:38,960 Ten, $10 million. Right. 1735 01:28:42,160 --> 01:28:45,480 That's the prize for winning this game, Yeah. 1736 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:47,560 We'll see if we can raise that GoFundMe for the. 1737 01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:51,240 Yeah, that's that's the hope. ADP chasers, get ready. 1738 01:28:51,320 --> 01:28:55,240 Tyler. Yes, it is Pat. 1739 01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:59,320 What's on tap this week? I just had the second part of my 1740 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:02,560 rookie running back profiles out this morning, so check that out. 1741 01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:08,160 Covered Cam scataboo, facial tootin, all those guys, Devin 1742 01:29:08,160 --> 01:29:11,600 Neil, Dillon Sampson, RJ Harvey, bunch of bunch of the depth of 1743 01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:15,120 this class in detail, talking their best ball and dynasty 1744 01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,240 prospects to get into the numbers and all that. 1745 01:29:18,240 --> 01:29:21,120 So look for that. Michael Dugner had an article 1746 01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:23,040 out last week. I highly recommend looking at 1747 01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,000 the anatomy of a rookie riser at quarterback. 1748 01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:27,360 He's going to be rolling out the rest of the positions as well. 1749 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:29,200 Matt Irby's got an article coming out in the next couple 1750 01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:33,520 days and I'll have the rest of my rookie stuff and I'll be 1751 01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:35,600 streaming later this week. I'm going to do like a Friday 1752 01:29:35,600 --> 01:29:38,320 stream doing some drafts with the sidekick if you want to 1753 01:29:38,320 --> 01:29:41,600 check that out, and we'll see, maybe do an episode of the 1754 01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:43,560 podcast as well. We'll see. 1755 01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:48,720 All right, Davis, Jacob, anything good I'll. 1756 01:29:48,760 --> 01:29:51,880 I'm going to be streaming some members only stuff on the 1757 01:29:51,880 --> 01:29:54,360 channel this week because baseball's about to start, so 1758 01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,120 we're just drafting some dingers and whatnot. 1759 01:29:57,120 --> 01:30:01,040 And I'm also going to have trying another new thing on the 1760 01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:04,120 channel, just a bunch of YouTube shorts about these prospects 1761 01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,000 this week. I was like looking at my data 1762 01:30:07,360 --> 01:30:11,720 and like 70% of the new viewers from my channel since January 1763 01:30:12,360 --> 01:30:15,200 were shorts viewers. So I'm trying to trying to 1764 01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:18,400 trying to feed those people Shorts King Summer. 1765 01:30:18,480 --> 01:30:22,000 Yeah. So seeing seeing what we have 1766 01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:23,240 there. So that's what I have coming for 1767 01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,200 you and I. I'm streaming tomorrow with Liam 1768 01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:29,320 Jacob. Well first of all, first of all 1769 01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:33,200 I will likely not be on ADP chasing for a couple of weeks 1770 01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:36,160 because believe it or not I'd I'd pre planned a trip to 1771 01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,880 Portugal before getting brought on this show so I'm heading on. 1772 01:30:39,880 --> 01:30:41,160 A. Otherwise you wouldn't have gone 1773 01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:42,080 otherwise. You mean? 1774 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:43,640 No way. Otherwise I'm of course, 1775 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:46,640 otherwise I wouldn't have gone Yeah that clearly the priorities 1776 01:30:46,640 --> 01:30:51,600 are are right in order, but long plane ride is going to be the 1777 01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:54,240 perfect opportunity to finalize a couple of articles. 1778 01:30:54,240 --> 01:30:59,000 So get ready for big prospect dump for dynasty continent. 1779 01:30:59,000 --> 01:31:03,360 I'm thinking about thinking on Saturday Sunday, Monday and then 1780 01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,800 I will see you guys. I mean, you never know if 1781 01:31:05,800 --> 01:31:07,800 there's, I don't really know what the time difference works 1782 01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:11,880 out to be, but consider me a maybe there might if I have a 1783 01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:14,640 free hours point and I'm sitting down, maybe I'll maybe I'll just 1784 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,840 hop on the stream, but. Where are you going in Portugal? 1785 01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:22,240 I'll let you know. I'm landing in the Algarve and 1786 01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:26,280 then in Pharaoh specifically, and then I'm going to Porto and 1787 01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:30,600 then I'm heading to the Azores. Nice, nice. 1788 01:31:30,840 --> 01:31:32,600 Wait, Pat Porto. Porto's great. 1789 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,000 I was guessing maybe you were asking that because the time 1790 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:38,280 zones are going to vary sort of a follow up to what time is 1791 01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:39,440 going to be. You want to know where in 1792 01:31:39,440 --> 01:31:45,280 Portugal based on what time? I think it's +5 and. 1793 01:31:45,280 --> 01:31:46,520 What day are you going to be in Porto? 1794 01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:50,800 Just put it in my phone. I think it'll be a three o'clock 1795 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:53,040 Portugal time start on ADP chasing. 1796 01:31:53,040 --> 01:31:58,120 If that happens to fit for you, I'll be doing my weekday show 1797 01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:02,240 WGR in Buffalo and the Odyssey app Sabre Senators pre game host 1798 01:32:02,240 --> 01:32:06,760 tonight Jacob 6:00 if if you want that huge Dylan Cousins 1799 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:10,200 revenge game and I'll be out. Otherwise I'll I'll be out 1800 01:32:10,200 --> 01:32:12,840 looking for overs on on Matthew Golden's. 1801 01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:16,600 Under underdogs own Josh Norris having the revenge game tonight. 1802 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,760 Yeah, injured, injured when they traded for him. 1803 01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:20,920 Will not play tonight for Buffalo. 1804 01:32:21,480 --> 01:32:24,320 Otherwise, thank you guys. Enjoyed it and we'll see 1805 01:32:24,320 --> 01:32:25,080 everybody next week.