Hi there. Welcome to Buffalo, home for me
and also sadly in this case, not New Orleans.
We'll hit on the Super Bowl briefly today, but of course,
we've reached the early best ball season, tournaments and
trends to talk about, rookies to talk about off the Senior Bowl.
And I've cooked up a little thing I'm trying here about some
of the most prolific veteran receivers in the league.
Last year we didn't know. Well, maybe we thought we did.
What to do with the veteran running backs who would change
teams and what that meant to fantasy football this year.
Not as much movement, likely with those guys who mostly did
well, but the old receivers could offer value or a trap.
We'll get into it. Let's fire it up with our heroes
Pat, Karine and Davis Maddock. I'm your host Mike Show, but
this is ADP chasing February 4th, 2025.
ADP chasing is for when you watch ship chasing you go these
guys are just football guys and the targets per outrun leagues.
That's going to be really nice, actually, back in, if it's
Austinette, it's. Stared to our crystal ball.
Close your eyes, you know all your entries are going to lose
anyway. Yeah, that's fair.
This is a Deuce Vant show. It's.
Anti cabal. It's anti the best ball thought
leader. I'm obviously lying to some
degree because like, I have a lot of both of these guys.
It's the most disgusting thing you can make, but.
Man. Well, not like it's my fault,
but sorry to not be able to offer you both and our loyal
listeners and viewers a Radio Row, you know, vibe here.
I've done five of those and I think they're mostly still the
same. It's pretty gross.
You know, you have three classes of, you know, potential guests,
celebrities at Radio Row. You've got the cool mid famous
football celebrities, mostly media, some retired legends like
I go back 2025 years, like we had no trouble getting Joe
Montana every year to go on Buffalo radio.
You have, like Ross Tucker, the late John Clayton for this Trey
Wingo that you know, sure, I'll come over.
And you have in in a sense, I would say there is a radio vibe
going on here because I can barely make that make you out
your your video is. Your your Cam, your camera's
you. You're just if you just tap your
camera, it'll it should it's focused on your microphone, not
on you. It happens to me.
It happens to. My microphone Davis Davis has
new lights going on. His camera is so high def I feel
like I can see him move before he even he even activates his
his muscles right. I clearly just got up.
There's there's two radio guys in a professional streamer on
this. Am I better or no?
It's try, try moving your microphone to, to out of frame,
'cause it's just, it's just focusing on your, it's just, I
don't know. I don't know.
I need to, we need, we need to hire, we need to hire Keats.
We need to hire. The solution was, but it wasn't
that. He probably unplugged his
Logitech camera, which, you know, we're, we're all, we're
all in there. Yeah, man, we are.
How do I sound? By the way, this is a new mic.
You sound good. I need to do what you have, so I
need to get I and I have one. I need to get the arm, but I'm
I'm just continuing my Rd. of trying to be like Peter in which
I just just continually try and slowly upgrade.
I'm not I'm not quite there yet. I can do this is cool though.
I can change the I can change, I can change the colors.
This cost this cost $9 off of off of.
Amazon. It's actually not that hard,
it's just mostly an effort thing.
I, you know what inspired me though?
I was doing some scouting on my, my fellow YouTube competitors
and I was just like watching old Liam videos.
I was watching some of the Spags videos.
I was watching some of Peter's old videos and I happened to
click on an old chess Liam video where he just, he was just in
his computer room and he just had two little rinky dink
lights, right? I was just, I was because I
clearly, I knew I've been where Liam's been many times.
So it's like I can make this better.
I can improve this, but I'm going to, I'm going to do it in
the most half ass way possible. I'm just going to, I'm just
going to do it in the the the ass, maybe even quarter ass.
Quarter ass. Quarter ass I'm I'm about 75%
ass. Yeah, this is This is more than
half an ass. This is definitely more than.
Half an ass. It's more than half an ass, but
to but to but the whole asset. What I'm going to have to do is
I'm going to have to turn my entire desk around and I'm going
to have to get a third bookshelf so that I can be further.
Away because the reason why the reason?
Why the reason why Pete's looks so good is that Peter's lights
are. About are behind.
They're about 20 feet behind him.
These lights are about, I mean, they're about 18 inches behind
me. So there's no ability to create
any depth. There we go.
You're better. You're better now.
You are. Yeah.
We strip it all down. Sorry about that.
You got a nickname? Soap Freeze, Frame Crane choppy,
choppy, choppy, choppy, choppy. I don't know which one gets gets
the O changed. It's all good.
You have to mess the pronunciation up.
Choppy. Choppy.
Well, anyway, any questions about radio row?
Probably not, you know. I mean, I've just never
understood this. A lot of people go to the Super
Bowl, right? Peter has been to the Super Bowl
3 times I believe. My old company used to send
everyone, used to basically send the whole company.
We were in New Jersey and New York.
They would basically send everyone there, but no one went
to the game, right? You go and you go to radio row
and then you don't get to go to the game, which to me, you know,
they asked me if I wanted to go and I'm like, absolutely not.
Do I want to go sit in a hotel room, get sweaty on radio row
for a week? You know, basically just like
beg a linebacker of the 1987 New England Patriots to give me a
little bit of their attention and then go home.
Absolutely not. No.
And, and many people, in fact, flew the day of the Super Bowl.
I mean, just no. Thank you.
Wow. No, thank you.
We we never stayed. We would go Sunday and leave
Saturday morning. So I never went to a game, but
we went five years. There were great times.
It's really about after the show or before, like going to play
Sawgrass or the 17th, like that island green when the Super Bowl
was in Jacksonville or just different parties and dinners.
Like that's the cool part. But it is like Bulldog.
Pat loves the Bulldog. My WGR Co host, I'll never
forget the time. Big bulldog guy.
So you are a big bulldog guy. Some guys are like sort of right
in your wheelhouse. We're mid market and some guys
are just above you, right. You better be New York or Boston
or Chicago, get their attention. So we were probably feeling
pretty good. We're like 20 or 30 feet away
from Warren Sapp and he's surrounded by like Warren Sapp
needs a team, but he's surrounded by guys that look
just like Warren Sapp and Bulldogs.
Like, let me take a shot, Bulldogs like 65270, something
like that. You know, he fits right in.
He got like two strides toward Warren Sapp and everybody turned
and like, back off right? This you're not whoever you are,
you're not getting near Warren Sapp.
Like so a lot of it's like really pathetic and you know,
whatever you feel really small, but it's, it's cool in a way.
I I wish I were there. Yeah, it seems like a good time.
Shout out to my old company Rotoworld used to send the team
to the Super Bowl. By the team I mean right now,
Matthew Berry, Lawrence Jackson Rhodopat and Denny Carter.
Not me. I never, I never got to go.
Did they ever did they ever ask you to go?
No, no, there was, there was a limited, limited seats I think.
Does does Kyle? Did Kyle?
Is Kyle there? Did Kyle?
And only Kyle's been been tapped either, but I believe Pat and
Denny are there again. Well, they had good guests.
Like I remember them talking to Tony Pollard and that's like the
kind of the guy you can get, but you know, there are bigger.
Stars there that you can't well, they they send like the
production team and everything. So they they like pre go out.
I remember who was a couple years ago, they were doing
interviews and someone was was doing some NFT project.
You know that the players got to come on and talk defroject.
So the players, some of the players are, you know, are kind
of having incentives to get on and are still, you might say.
Are you guys old enough to remember Donovan McNabb and his
mom pitching Chunky Soup? Yeah.
Oh yeah. So like, McNabb was one of the
biggest stars in the league, but we would always get him if you
got his mom with him. Like you had them both and you
mostly talked about chunky soup, but that was the deal.
Brian Urlacher, we he signed. It was, no, it was Chad
Ochocinco who signed deodorant, a stick of deodorant for, for
the station because that was he what he was pitching.
And you're not getting Ocho Cinco unless you're talking.
About is he? Are you?
Is he getting paid by the stick? Like what?
He's paid by the stick. He's paid by the stick that.
Seems like a bad deal. I don't have to.
It's. A pretty it's a pretty good rate
per stick I imagine. It must be much.
Per stick BPS Well, you know, moving on, I've got a little
thing cooked up for you late for later.
But Davis, what do we need to know about the rookies, the
Senior Bowl, the Shrine game? Like what's changed since we
talked last anything? I mean, I think the two biggest
things that you'll have to adjust for is Ollie Gordon is
now like a 13th round pick after the first like 3 days of the
contest. Being a guy you could get what I
don't know, 19 rounds. ETR has him super high in his
default ranks, which is one of the reasons.
And then the other reason is he was like one of the guys that so
he weighed 233 at the Senior Bowl, which is it's you look,
the way the guy moves, it's pretty good to be 233.
And he also, just like in the, you know, the interviews and
everything, like the Senior Bowl is not set up for running backs
to do well, like running, running back drill.
The game is not going to revolve around them.
They're not really going to have any big meaningful plays.
But he was just one of the guys that got really strong reviews.
And then Jack Beck. I hadn't heard that.
I I he he whipped on a bunch of pass protection stuff is what
for what I saw. So I don't know.
I the Ollie Gordon hype has caught me off guard and I'm not
he's tricky because he was such a big prospect.
Like I went back and looked at this college football best ball
draft I did with Roton. And.
First, he was the second pick, yeah.
And so you know. If only we had some frame of
reference for an Oklahoma State running back who absolutely
smashed as a sophomore, then was markedly worse as a junior, got
under drafted in the NFL Draft and got paid $32 million
guaranteed just if there was. How do you do as a rookie,
though? Davis is, you know, in in these.
I I literally do. I actually don't.
I don't remember. I I like actually don't
remember. Tuba.
Yeah, it's 612 yards better than I would have thought, but it
wasn't. Since you're bringing up Tuba
Hubbard, isn't he a buy right now in in dynasty or no?
No, I think he's like the I think he's like, if you could
get the two O 3 for him right now, I'd sell that so fast.
Well, he's. I would, I would, I would trade
the two O 3 for tuba. He's he's locked in.
He's somewhat protected by the Brooks draft capital.
They're they're less incentivize the draft of running back in a
deep class. Yeah, So I, this is my current
operational theory. Every running back you think is
safe in this class is the least safe they've ever been.
I I think Karine, we could see up to 12 running backs go before
the end of round three, maybe more.
I I think everything I'm. Hearing.
I think everything we're hearing, all the brueglers, all
the Field Yates's, all the Lance Zerlins, all the people who are
plugged in, we are, we are getting breathless quotes about
this running back class like Laquint Allen, who depending on
your point of view, like is like a fourth round pick, sixth round
pick, something like that, like even this guy's.
Getting. And now we're it's like we're
getting Laquint Allen hype. We're getting, we're getting
hype about everyone we got. We have, I don't remember if it
was Bruegler or Yates who said he's hearing Trevion Henderson
is going to be a first round pick.
And like, OK, Trevion Henderson is a first round pick.
Then what's going to happen with the guy who was better than him
last year? What was going to happen with
the guy who got the ball more times than him last year?
You know, I think it's going to go the other way.
I think someone that we don't expect to fall to Round 3 will
like I would not be surprised if Quin, Shawn Judkins or you know,
one of these other guys like Cam Scataboo who are who.
Are exciting Scataboo. Scataboo is going to be a
faller, I think. I think people are a little over
their skis on on Mr. Scataboo. Yeah, I, I mean like Devin Neil,
I think he's still like, if you look at database.
Don't put it. Don't put it in the universe.
He's still above 100 now. I think some of their stuff is
it's, I think it's a bad time because I was looking like what
mucks are feeding this and it's kind of some old stuff just
pulls. In everything mock draft out of
everything pulls in literally everything.
Yeah, grinding the mocks. Can we, can we expand what's
public, please? That would be helpful.
But the, yeah, if you look at Devin Neil, he's still at 106.
I think if you were like taking the temperature, he's probably
at around 80 now. But that's still, that's still
third round, not second. I I would say like Genti,
Hampton and then two of Caleb Johnson, Henderson and Judkins
are all going to go round two or earlier.
Top 50. Maybe top 50, but I would say
that to me it's like 4 guys, maybe five and then like 6 would
be froth. How many did you say would go
Round 2? Day 2.
So. 12 by date, end of day. 212
OK, that that I could that I think is like on the high end of
what's possible. But, but think about, think
about the massive earthquake that that means for fantasy
football. If that does happen, if 12 guys
go, I mean that is that is 1/3 of the league where our our
projections or our base assumptions right we're making
right now are useless. Yeah, although I mean, so this
class is definitely deep, but it's deep in a way that's
there's lots of guys who are interesting in it.
I don't think it's deep in terms of like day one starters job
takers. Maybe it is, maybe it's.
I should say it's, I mean. It is, but it's not like 12 deep
in that it's. So job takers is like subjective
because there's like no such thing.
But other than like Gen. T, like if Gen.
T goes somewhere, then sure. But like, OK, imagine the
Panthers last year, they get this or two years ago, they get
this great production out of two of Hubbard very unexpectedly.
And then they spend the second round pick on Jonathan Brooks.
Well, Jonathan Brooks is not going to play this year.
What what do we know about this Panthers regime?
They probably view figuring out the running back situation as
pretty important. They just got the production out
of Hubbard and then took Brooks. What would stop them from taking
Quinch on Judkins in the third round?
You and I might say that's a bad use of resources.
You have to do something else. And then they'd say, no, that's
actually a good use of resources because we need a running back.
But they shouldn't. We have this conversation every
week, I mean. They But Davis is right.
But they should they. Do the teams do that?
And it's frustrating. It's very frustrating.
But it I mean, like Lance Erlein yesterday put out a mock draft
that had at at 7 The Jets taking Ashton Gente and he's like
Breece Hall's never gotten to 1000 yards.
And and and and and in our brain.
Recovering from an. ACL, hence the thumbnail.
Hence the thumbnail. But in our brain, we go, well,
that couldn't be Dumber. You know who thinks about things
like Breece Hall's never had 1000 yards?
Guys who draft in the NFL draft, guys who have been around
football. You think Lance Erlein is, is
the only person who's had that thought that Breece Hall's never
had 1000 yards? I guarantee you there are
football guys who are like Bri Sal, dude, he's soft.
No, but it's going the right way.
It's going the right way. We have to remember what we
think is is right. These teams they're talking
about, the Panthers and The Jets, are terrible, always.
No, I I think these teams have been shaken.
Up and be like this is bad. OK, but but think about think
about the recency bias and and the way the winds are blowing.
You have Saquon Barkley like literally carrying a team to a
Super Bowl Henry Henry. You have Jameer Gibbs looking
like an absolute smash. So the lions were paying for
that pick. So, you know, I think T now I
it's a different thing to to look at, you know, like the
maybe the best offensive tackle in the class potentially
available at 7 and go no running back while you already have a
guy you spent a second round pick on.
That's that is crazy. I I know it's different thing
than than finding an undervalued guy in free agency where there's
not that many good players available in free agency.
So just spend the money on on the undervalued running back.
Like I think that part of it I I.
Did. Happen The free agency class
made a point this year, but. They did cookies.
And now this free agents class is dust.
It's Aaron Jones and it's Naji Harris.
The Eagles and the Ravens. Don't forget about Raid O'dell.
We all know this. They were already great.
So sure, you add these running backs who are going to be great
and their teams are still great. So yeah, we what are these days?
It's. Not how NFL teams decide things,
though NFL teams love running backs.
They also love good players. If you can, if you're like this
guy's the best player available, I'm sorry, but he's the best
player at our pick. We're going to take good
football. The way I'm going to build my
team is I'm going to draft good football players.
I'm taking, I'm taking highest on the board.
Best player available. Yeah.
It's a little bit less like that every year is all I'm saying.
And by the way, you know, if four or five guys go in the top
50 in 2025, running backs, I think it was 5, might have been
4 went in the top 55. Just none of them went until CEH
at pick 32. But then you got Swift and
Taylor and eventually Dobbins was the last one of that.
I was going to say this, that's actually a good comp.
The 2020 running back class is a good comp, but it would be like
if there were also a bunch of dudes who were draftable in the
third round. And I, I like if you, if you
think about South like Keyshawn Vaughn, but imagine if Keyshawn
Vaughn was good, AJ Dillon, but if AJ Dillon was good, Darrenton
Evans, but if Darrenton Evans was good.
On things like that, one of the things I think about this class
is that there's a lot of and imagine if this guy was good
type of analysis going on where like, you know, as a prospect, I
would say DeAndre Swift just as good as any of the non gente
guys in this class as a prospect, right, Very explosive
passes. Well, yeah, but we were very
excited about Swift. You know, JK Dobbins on on par
with every non gente guy in this class Cam Akers on par with
every non gente guy in this class 5250 second pick one ahead
of Dobbins. Dylan another guy right there
with all the non gente. Guys, Akers was the other one,
right? Akers Clyde Edwards E Lehrer,
who was drafted 32nd overall to the chiefs.
We would probably be taking ahead of every non gente guy in
this class in drafts if we if we erased our brains Jonathan
Taylor, we would definitely take over every non gente guy.
Now he's hit now you know, but there's you know, Dobbins was a
very talented player got her acres had a really strong end to
his rookie season. Tears as AC tears as Achilles.
So you know, there's some some stuff going on.
Zach Moss was one of the third round guys.
He, you know, bounced around, never really had success early
in his career. Eventually had a little run
there. Keyshawn Vaughn, I mean he was
going because of the opportunity ahead of him.
He ended up going like very high in rookie drafts.
I was in a rookie draft where he went like one O 5, one O 6 in a
Superflex. So there there was some
excitement about him. This class has a lot of guys
that I think are really good second round rookie picks and
great third round dart throw types.
It does not have that many like locked in definitely going to
hit players other than Genti in my opinion.
And then there's like Hampton, Judkins, Henderson, Caleb
Johnson. I think scataboo.
As long as the draft capital is good, I expect at least like
three of those guys to be to be pretty damn impactful.
But they're not like such good prospects where you wouldn't be
shocked if, like, Caleb Johnson was a little bit of a plotter in
the NFL level or Judkins didn't really like, have that much.
Jesus, the one, the one I think has the greatest ability to
disappoint is Henderson. Where he?
Never got. He never.
Got a goal? Yeah.
He's basically Naheem Heinz. Like more or less.
He's big. Naheem Heinz.
Yeah. I mean, they're these guys all
have. So when you think about how many
got and I did a little exercise on this, how many guys are
actually going to succeed to where they take roles?
I was, I was like Gente. Well, like I'm just counting
Gente at 100%. You know, he's he's less than
100, but not like a ton less. And then like probably three of
those five guys, the the Hampton Johnson, Judkins, Henderson,
Scatabo, probably just like one of the guys in like kind of the
the round tier guy. And I would say it's probably
Devin Neil and you could maybe maybe revise that up to include
Neil. So let's let's do that.
So we'll say two of those guys and then like probably like one
of the Burchard Smith type guys and then like a couple random
dudes. So we just don't expect from I.
Was going to say then then someone who goes undrafted or
round seven will just like randomly get good injury luck
and end up playing. But as as a rookie is probably
just like one and then like probably one or two of the free
agents. So there's like 9 to 10.
If we're going to be, let's be optimistic and say there's like
10, including the free agent class, which sucks.
As you pointed out, there's probably 10 running backs
capable of taking jobs by the end of the year.
There's yeah, 19 jobs that look shaky.
So I think in some ways I think maybe like we shouldn't be that
of like basically half of the running backs who look shaky
will probably have roles, the veterans.
Yeah. And I'm talking about, you know,
like backfields, like the Bengals, like the Browns, like
the Texans, like the Jaguars. I'm not a Joe Mixon fan.
Including the Texans, maybe a little bit.
Raiders. Raiders, Yeah, well, some
backfields are like, they just don't have anybody.
So you'd think the Raiders, the Vikings, the the the Browns
would probably be against the Cowboys, probably be against
someone somehow. But there's like there's roles
where you're like, I don't know, like.
And then equally there are guys who are being counted on right
now like Crane, I agree with your point.
Like guys we think are shaky are just going to actually like be
nutted out and some. Some of them are going to hit
the nuts. But then also there's going to
be guys, and I don't know who it is, but like someone like Kyron
or Kenneth Walker or James Conner or Josh Jacobs or Brian
Robinson Junior, someone who the market is, is saying, oh, this
guy's just running. It's they're just running it
back. They're not going to run it
back. There's going to be a huge
change in their role. One way you got to get this,
you, you have to remove his. I like historical anomalies as
much as you, but you got. To Yeah, I know.
Oh, I'm sorry, I just left that up there.
Doesn't even rhyme. Doesn't even.
Rhyme. All right, chop.
Let's play this game. Let's go.
All right, This is my hopefully not feeble attempt at
entertaining everybody with a little bit of a, you know, Super
Bowl, right? Super Bowl is about the history
of the game. It's also, we're going to get
some ADP analysis here. And like I mentioned at the Open
last year, we had old running backs who ruined our lives
worked out. And I wonder what will happen
here with receivers. So you're both on, your honor.
We've got the names of the top 25 receivers by yards in NFL
history among active players. The names on the right I decided
to leave out. Maybe Tyler Lockett is somebody
we'll draft a little of or not. I did just take him in a draft
yesterday. I didn't feel good about it, but
I did. Is anyone else on that list?
Julio Jones, who's number one and still this is by Pro
Football Reference, still considered an active player?
Brandon Cooks, Tyler Lockett, Jimmy Graham?
Robert Woods? Odell Beckham Junior.
With disrespectful the Robert Woods who is was just playing
like a month ago. Yeah, I know.
Like so so is Beckham, right? I mean, these guys are in so is
Robinson. Some these guys are in the
league, but are we we're I think we're mostly done with most, if
not all of them. So I left them out and and part
of the fun I think will be trying to identify.
I'm sure you guys will do well. You guys do well.
But who these other players on the left are?
So, you know, let's take turns. Davis, you're on the top of the
screen here. Who's somebody that you know or
you think you know is on this list?
And then we'll talk about what what they are.
Mike Evans will be somewhere on this list just because he's been
in the season. He's been in the NFL for nine
years and had a bunch of 1000 yard seasons.
Mike Evans 32, last year's underdog ATP I got these from
Hayden on his Twitter last year. 27.1 He's still under contract
with Tampa. How afraid are we going to be?
If that's the right word, maybe it isn't to draft Evans.
I'm I'm not afraid, I don't think.
I've, I've been drafting Evans. Evans is not a player that I was
excited to draft last year. You know, he, he came off like
the huge game. No, that was just two years ago.
But his ADP was like pretty frothy last year, I guess
because of the Godwin injury. But dude, I mean, he's still got
really third. Yeah.
So I, I I'm kind of in because Godwin is a free agent.
They lose Liam Cohen. But like, at a certain point,
isn't Baker like a sort of like kind of in a enough of a groove
with this team and these guys? I mean, they've got a great
offensive line. I think they're just they're
just going to run back the same personnel.
On didn't it work? Yeah.
Didn't it work? Yeah.
So I think Evan's in the late
3rd now feels feels fine. Yeah, All right.
I agree. So we're we're relatively
bullish on him. We'll call it that.
Yeah. Who's next, Pat?
You're next. Keenan Allen will be on here.
Oh yeah, Keenan will be on that list.
Maybe, maybe #2 right. Oh, guess he's been hurt a lot.
Keenan Allen, 33, underdog ADP last year end of round 5 free
agent What kind of market will there be for Keenan Allen?
Maybe pretty good. I think could be pretty good
because there's like a lot of teams that could use receiving
help and there's not that many good receivers in free agency or
like some of them have injuries that they're dealing with, you
know, they're coming off pretty serious injuries so.
Only a good team signs him. I guess I mean, if you're the
Patriots though, like wouldn't you, wouldn't you see if he's
down? Like there's there's teams that
I mean, the Patriots kind of most obvious one where it's like
they kind of desperately need more guys, but like they're
probably gonna have trouble getting those guys to to come to
Boston, you know, like you're not winning any like the
roster's kind of in shambles. So I don't know.
I mean, if you're him, you'd rather go to like Washington or,
you know, a contender, but I don't know.
I mean, some of these, a young quarterback, a team with a young
quarterback might be interested as well.
OK, Davis. DeAndre Hopkins, Kansas City
Chief DeAndre Hopkins. Second Julio Jones all time
yardage. You guys straighten me out on
how little usage he was getting in the in the post season.
So I lost on a couple of overs after it was too late this year.
But very small production. Does he get?
How does he compare with Keenan Allen as a free agent?
See, I think he's way closer to being done because he signed
with a team that really could have used him and they were
like, you know who has more in the tank than you?
You just Mischuster has more in the tank than you do right now.
And like, where where's he going to go?
That's better than the Kansas City Chiefs.
Where, where, where would he sign?
You're like, well, that's definitely better than being in
Kansas City. No, I think, I think Hopkins is
done. Yeah.
All right. He'll probably play one more
season, but not very much. Yeah.
Do you have any ADP on him or on these guys as we're talking
about them? Yeah, he he's like the wide
receiver 65. So he's going to be something
like 175 ish overall I think. Yeah, ADP One 82161, we're like
a round behind that. All right, Pad, who's next?
Tyree kill. Tyree kill, tough one or no?
I think he's AI mean he started as one of the best guys on the
board. Yeah, I think, I think that
feels untouched. I think he is just going to be
awesome. Where's he going?
He he was going in the like the 40s and now he's up to 2025,
1/2. All right.
It's kind of crazy how how low he started.
Yeah, and. You think he stays in Miami?
I do. I think he either stays in Miami
or goes back to Kansas City and either is really good.
I. Wonder if Keenan Allen could go
back to LA? That's what he said, Keenan
Allen said I'm only playing in Chicago or LA, but he included
the Rams in that, right? So he said, he said I'm only
playing in Los Angeles or in Chicago.
Show part tight ends on this list or is it just?
Why yes. That's that's bad by the way,
for Allen, if he because what like that, that's retirement
risk potential then if those teams don't want him.
He's not going to retire. He might.
He would. He would certainly come back to
Chicago, I think, over retiring. OK.
Travis Kelce, that's. My opinion?
Travis Kelce is tight end. What so far?
Tight End 8 He goes right next to Mark Andrews, David and Joku.
Tyler Warren I don't think I've taken him yet.
Maybe I've taken him once. I've taken him once, does he
retire is the question. That's The thing is he, the guy
might literally like be holding the Super with the Lombardi
Trophy and be like, and that's it for me.
Or he might do what he did last year and say and we're coming
back for number 4. Last year it feels like it feels
like last year we were talking about that a lot and this year
not at all. I don't know what why
necessarily, but this this year is history.
Three in a row is unprecedented. So this would be maybe, you
know, it's one year later too, maybe would make more sense.
All right, so Tight End 8 so far.
The the thing with me, with Kelsey is that like last year we
were in a position where you're like, well, if he doesn't
retire, like I'm getting still maybe the best tight end of the
league. And and now and now you're
you're like, he's going to I think he'll play even less on
offense. Let's say he doesn't retire.
Rashi comes back. Worthy continues developing.
They get one more outside guy, you know, instead of Justin
Watson, but they have like a competent guy.
Noah Gray is still under contract.
And then you're like, they could just get away with playing in
60% of the snaps regular season. Like Jonnu Smith is is a fun,
you know, totally solid pick, but like I wouldn't consider him
if I thought he might retire, right?
Like this is sort of the word in like a new right.
Like if David and Joko was considering retirement, I would
not be drafting him. That's like kind of the new
thing we're in with Kelsey now. So I.
I are these by the way, are these by the way guesses Jonnu
Smith or? No, no, no.
These are these are guys, these are guys that Kelsey's kind of
like now, whereas before he was like, you know, even last year,
even heading into last year, I was like, I mean, he just
carried them Super Bowl. Like he can turn it on still.
The Chiefs just won the AFC Championship with 32 points
against Buffalo, with Kelsey going for two for 19, by the
way, Yeah, yeah, super, super. All right, Pat Devante Adams.
Devante Adams is correct. All the chalk so far under
contract with The Jets, the if they're if it's even qualified
as counting as Buzz, it's the Rogers is back, but I don't know
what. He, Adams basically has a player
option with The Jets. He's he's OK.
I think his cat number is 40 million or something absurd with
like very little dead cat. So he gets to decide.
If he takes a pay cut, slash signs an extension to spread out
the money. You think he's out of there then
maybe. He's definitely like when he was
when with the Raiders when they were trying to trade for him.
The Jets were trying to change his contract and he refused to
change his contract because he basically they can't like keep
him under this contract. It's like he gets to decide if
he's going to sign an extension or get cut, which he did
specifically because he didn't know if Rogers was going to
stick around or not. So if Rogers comes back, they'll
work something out and he'll stay.
But if Rogers retires the Adams is like, I mean he's going to
get like a big bag from The Jets with a multi year extension or
much more likely just not be there.
Where's he going? I don't know, Buffalo maybe, but
they, they need, they need someone like that.
Where is he going in drafts? Oh, fifth round, 5th wide
receiver, 32. OK, which he was going later.
I I I drafted some of them originally.
This feels like a little hotter given.
I think I like that. You, you're into it.
I think I like it. Wide receiver 32, he's going to
play somewhere. All right, Davis.
I've got an out, I've got an outside one that I'm pretty sure
is on the list. Zach Ertz, Washington Commander
Zach Ertz I'm pretty sure is on the list.
Yep, and. Well done.
Yeah, that's my last year. We got into Hertz.
Last year's ADPI believe would be the highest of all these
players at 214. Pretty sure about that.
He signs a one year deal and is back with the commanders, I
think. Yeah.
For I think, I believe, I believe he said he's not
retiring. He's going 176 with, yeah, I
mean, we've been taking him, but it's like I kind of want with a
player like ertz again, I would like like confirmation he's back
with the Commanders. Zach Ertz January 27th made
clear Monday he has no intentions of retiring after
rejuvenating first year in Washington.
I would also like the commanders have no intentions of not
bringing him back. Oh no, buddy, Cliff Cliff is not
going to let. Zachary, walk.
You're probably right. You're probably right.
Well, that makes him tight end. What I mean got to move him way
up obviously. But does he does he scratch the
top end? Tight end tight end 23 right now
he's. Tight End 23.
He's so old. I mean, he stayed healthy this
year is kind of a big, big part of it.
Like I don't want to have. Football like if their slot wide
receiver is not Luke McCaffrey slash olamide Zakiya slash Luke
McCaffrey and they have a a competent slot wide receiver.
I mean, he could, he could be like a nine percent target share
guy. Pretty why?
Why would you not draft Zach Ertz at tight end?
23 in every draft? That team?
I mean, he's younger than Kelsey.
He's a little bit. He's been more fragile.
Though because he's not under contract with the team that the
only team where he would have a starting role in the league he's
not under contract is why I'm not really taking it right.
Well I wish I drafted him in every team this year, but sure.
Sure. I mean, you know, sonat's
probably nothing, but they did just spend a a pick at the
position. Well, I think he's probably.
Back but Sonat is John Bates's replacement as the H back so
they got him on the rock and they don't.
They don't have the page on. Bates now, so even more proof
that ertz is back doing the same thing as long as he stays
healthy. Yeah.
All right. I mean, sign me up, Pat, you're
next. What do you like?
Terry Mclaurin. No.
Not on the list.
I I I got one that is. That'll be pretty good.
Justin Jefferson is for sure on this list.
He's got like 8000 yards already.
Nice. Year year year 4 guys.
Wow, he might be good. ADP 6.3 last year, is it about?
It's got to be about the same. It'd be better.
Which I think is like, I'm not going to have the stones because
I just got so punished for doing this last year, but I should
just do the same thing. I should just go run back 25%
because he's so clearly the best guy in football that like 1500
yards and 10 touchdowns was disappointing for him.
Yeah, but I I guess I guess Chase does have those crazy
spikes. Chase is a bad one O 1.
He he really is like. It should probably just be
Barkley. Yeah.
Aren't we tired of getting buried by this guy?
I I am. I'll give you guys the ages on
the rest of them. Mclaurin is around 6300 I
believe. So a little bit back just
missed. There are a couple of guys who
you maybe would think of as younger who are who are in the
top 25 all time receiving yards, active players.
Anybody else you guys like? Adam Thielen.
That's a good one. Adam Thielen is right.
Oh, I know, I'm there's there's an obvious one we're missing.
Go ahead. Jane Moore.
Stefan Diggs. Oh yeah, I would.
I would. I don't know why I wasn't
thinking Diggs. Yep, What's happening with Diggs
in drafts? Wide receiver 52 he I think is
is a good a good value. Yeah, me too.
He's coming up a torn ACL at 31. That's and he's a free agent.
He's probably going to go. I, I feel the same way about him
and Hollywood. They're they're both, they're
both just going to resign, I think.
Yeah. Houston.
Yeah, because Houston. I mean, if Houston does not
resign Diggs, the fuck is their plan?
You, you're running. You're running back.
Robert Woods, Nico Collins and John Metchy and Dalton.
Show well, I mean they, you know, they could be like a
Matthew Golden in the first round team.
I just oh, that that is not what I would do if I just I've fired
Bobby Sloak and I've. Got I don't think I I don't
think I'd be bringing back Diggs.
Diggs was like already kind of in a slot receiver era and then
he tore his ACL. Like isn't Diggs now just like
Ravens era Odell Beckham? Like with dude I honestly I know
ACL is not great. I honestly hadn't considered it
I just cuz he tore his ACL. What, like week 8?
Yeah, yeah. You know, the the two last two
years in Buffalo, it went downhill in the second-half into
the play offs. It's one of the reasons I think
they felt justified making the move.
And then, you know, in Houston there were a couple good weeks,
but it wasn't like the ceiling was very high.
So he's not big, right? For a guy receiver getting into
their 30s, you might wonder if he's somebody that might be a.
Special, but I mean like we would already be concerned with
like he's clearly falling off a little bit if we're just like
looking at like what he was doing.
He goes to Houston. You're like damn, I mean this
guy's been a number one wide receiver for a while.
Like is he going to challenge Nico Collins?
Nope, not at all. Didn't challenge Nico Collins at
all. Collins had to be really be out
for diggs to have like a ton of fantasy value and even then he
was like accumulating from the slot like this was like this was
this year's version of Cooper cup almost that we got from
Diggs before he toreys ACL. So I think I think we.
Convinced me, Karen, I think I was.
I think I was in and now I think I'm out.
I think I'm going to move him down in in the.
Ranks we're we're, we're not into it.
Like if you can tell Amari Cooper.
Amari Cooper. He's got to be on here.
There he is, Ben. What What happens there again?
Buffalo just it was not much, didn't look fast at all, just
like they didn't lean into him after trading for him at all
with the season with so much at stake.
I've been, I doubt he's back here.
No one's told me that. But it just didn't work, didn't
work out. So maybe Cooper is interesting,
more interesting to someone else.
I've heard that Buffalo's interested in bringing him back,
which doesn't make a lot of sense to me, but that would that
would be huge for his value if he got another run at it.
Not not real high on my target list either though.
Cooper Cup. Speaking of of him, he's got to
be on air. Who's trading?
Who's trading for Cooper Cup? Where?
Where's Cooper Cup play next year?
We talked about that for a minute last week.
Washington seems maybe great, but I don't know.
What do you think he has left? Here, here's my theory.
No one, no one's trading for Cooper Cup.
Cooper Cup, Yes, the Rams. If Cooper Cup gets traded, then
the Rams are off the hook for a big chunk of his salary and
Cooper Cup has a cap hit of 20, basically $30 million rounding
up. I'm, I'm guessing Cooper cup
would would like to keep, you know, a pretty solid salary that
he's got 12.5 base, 14.8 base in 2026.
I I'm guessing he's probably happy to keep his current
contract in place. The Rams are happy to have
someone else take the contract off their hands.
So you know, cups saying I'm out here, I'm going to get traded.
No, you're probably going to get cut.
The Rams are are my get. I wonder if they asked him to
take a pay cut and he was like no.
And they're like, dude, hold on. We're going to trade.
What a nasty, nasty fucking industry dude that just sucks
for Cooper Cup. Like just like the guy.
Like they are not. They certainly do not win that
Super Bowl without him. I mean, no one has been more
emblematic of the Sean McVay. Like I, I would argue that
Cooper Cup is the reason they even had the stones to do the
trade in the 1st place. You know, just like having that
guy on the roster. It's what a just what a cold
world man. I really do.
I really do hate that about. There's there's no way Let's
let's just keep this keep this in mind when they draft a
running back in the first rounds and they're like how, how how
could we have known that they would turn their backs on Kyron
after what he's done for them? Yeah, the I don't know, I think
Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup is a Keenan Allen level.
And the The thing is, is what Cooper Cup does now is so
valuable for all these NFL teams because no one can throw the
ball anymore. So just having guys who can get
open on 7 yard crossers and hitches is like.
Yeah, Cooper Cup is. Basically, Kelsey, you know?
Cole Beasley will Beasley got a an all pro vote from Peter King
with the with doing that, you know, a few years ago here so.
That would be fun. I mean Cooper Cup with with Josh
would be fun. Is it's the new how?
About Dallas, how about Dallas? He he gets, he gets cut.
They they have like no wide receiver too.
I think Pat is right. I think he does have to get cut.
I mean, I just the the numbers on the trade seem pretty make it
unlikely, but I don't know. We'll see.
I I don't know all three, but I know two of the other ones, A.J.
Brown and George Kittle will be the other ones.
I don't know. Brandon Cook, someone noted in
the chat, would likely be on. Here, Cooks.
Cooks is 10th. He's on the right.
We left him out. He's.
On the he's on the the non active list.
Well, I don't know. I didn't think he was
interested. Someone in the chat.
No. Who's that?
CD Lamb. Nope, want it?
Here it comes. Not productive enough I think.
CD. Chris Godwin.
OK, nice. We're not a guess of that
either. He's an interesting free agent.
I thought about Godwin and then was like might.
Be, I mean, a couple of big injuries, but he was really
productive before he got hurt. Really productive has the ankle
fracture ligament who knows what exactly went on kind of vibe
where you you're like the I don't know what the floor is
here but I do think someone pays Chris Godwin on the hopes that
you know I think the. Buccaneers just pay him.
I'm drafting. The Buccaneers couldn't pay him
if the Buccaneers. The two spots where I I'm like
pretty bullish are the Buccaneers and the Jaguars,
right? Because the Jaguars with Liam
Cohen, you're like, oh, he's like basically just going to get
installed is what he was last year.
And you would guess that Cohen has like a pretty good
understanding of what the injury is in his recovery timeline and
stuff. And then obviously the Bucks,
the bucks there's like some sentimental value or maybe they
just like like, you know, like are they so bullish on his
recovery or is they just want him to be a buck for life?
But they're still, I mean, they have more information than
anyone on on the recovery. So if he goes, if he like hits
the open market and isn't signed right away, that would be kind
of concerning to me a little bit from what teams are expecting
from the next year, you know? Mclaurin and Lamb are in the
next 5 names on this list, although they're a ways back.
The next two names on this list are Michael Thomas, who
definitely would have been in red.
Isn't that isn't that crazy? Tyler Bullet.
It's crazy to me that Michael Thomas is not on this list,
truly. Like, yeah, I would have guessed
off the top of my head. 10,000 receiving yards.
Michael Thomas. Truly, yeah, deducted he he
removed slants from the yardage total so.
Yeah, he's, he's 26th. Michael Thomas is 26th.
Well, that's. Crazy.
An overview or a thought on just like the idea of the running
backs last year with that was older receivers here.
I mean, it's obviously not apples to apples, but some
interesting free agents where you might there might be so
cheap. I mean, that's one difference,
isn't it? The the running backs I'm
thinking of, you know, right at the end of the second round with
Barclay and Henry, those guys way more expensive in in terms
of investments. A lot of these guys that may or
may not be done don't know landing spot are drafted in
double digit rounds. So, you know, why not?
Yeah, I mean, I, I kind of like the Hollywood level guy where
you're like, if I'm going to take the chance on a guy, I
think it might be done. At least he's basically free.
I'm I'm having trouble getting excited about like the Amari
Cooper, Stefan Diggs kind of tier of guys.
I have taken some Keenan. He he did not seem done to me,
but it's like not that far off. What about?
What about A.J. Brown for next year?
Like does it matter if they win this game?
Is he back there? I mean, is it all good win or
lose? Brown getting traded would be
huge for him. The biggest problem for A.J.
Brown this season was that instead of having the 26 best
defense in football, the Eagles had the best defense in
football. Defense is just not going to be
sticky year over year. I I would guess the Eagles are
going to be closer to league average in defense next year.
It's just kind of the kind of the way defense works that will
be is. The way it works if you're just
like constantly drafting the best edges in college football.
They've been they've been drafting the best players.
How long, how long? How long has Howie Roseman been
the Eagles GM? 8 years something like.
That, yeah, that sounds about right.
Like they just got lucky. I mean, well, one, they got
lucky that that Jalen Carter was party to a murder so he fell in
the draft. They got lucky that like Zac
Bond ended up being really good. But sometimes they'll get wrong
some. Sometimes they'll just guess.
And also sometimes a guy will get hurt that that can't get
hurt, right? Stealing, stealing this from
from Mike Giardi from Boston Sports Journal.
I talked to him yesterday here in Buffalo and he's like Miles
Garrett in Philadelphia. Just sort of Philadelphia makes
that work. They've got their other deals
with New Orleans going where they can accumulate draft picks.
And I don't know, like he wants to go to a contender.
There's one. Miles Care in Philadelphia.
Oh my God, I I would love if if A.J.
Brown got to play. He's 28 now, right?
It's kind of going to wind down soon ish.
Not like that it'll be done, but like this, the dominant era.
Man, but imagine A.J. Brown in his Slant Boy era like
A.J. Brown in his Cooper Cup, not
adolescence. What's the not dotage?
There's a word like dotage but not quite.
Dotage would have worked but it's not exactly what I'm going
for. But but but A.J.
Brown in his aging gracefully period.
His golden years, his. Golden years A.J.
Brown has 76% of the routes, 70% of his routes out of the slot
Buddy he he could he could have 100 catch season with like and
it like Larry Fitzgerald last really good year, but A.J.
Brown doing that instead of Larry Fitzgerald.
Chiefs fandom has broken you. We're now you.
You look at a one of the most dominant downfield threats in an
in decade and you're like, imagine this guy is Juju Smith
Schuster on the Chiefs. That's that's real.
Let me tell you, let me tell you, A.J.
Brown, bad fit Chiefs. Actually, they, they would, they
would not be interested in him. Too explosive, too, too, too,
too way too good down the field. They they want their outside guy
running like Justin Watson. You know, that's kind of what
they. Prefer.
That's true. That's true.
Well, they got to kick him into the slot, you know.
There they are the top 25 active leaders in receiving yards all
time. Davis back at the beginning
before we were talking about these guys, you mentioned
rookies and you, you got to Ollie Gordon.
Then we did 20 minutes off of that.
Jack Beck. Oh yeah.
Yes. So Beck, I've already seen it.
I I've already seen the name of Puka Nakua invoked.
Oh, it's been invoked like it's not just once.
It's it's it's. February. 4th And we we have
already invoked last year. I think my favorite guy who got
compared to to Puka Nakua last year was KC Washington, a guy
who remained on the Falcons practice squad for the entirety
of the year. That was my my personal favorite
and that was not from a guy. On Twitter.
That was from a Falcons beat writer who invoked the name of
of Pukunikua for KC Washington. My actual guess for the the most
if you if you made me do it on February 4th, you held a gun to
my head. I actually think Arande Gadsen
is is most likely to have a a Nikuian effect because the if a
team chooses to value Gadsen, who is listed at tight end, it
is going to be in a. We never want you to block.
We only want you to run about 62% of the routes, but you were
only going to be there to catch passes.
Beck, I think, sadly is a is a bit of a tweener.
He was a tight end at LSU and then at TCU.
He barely played as a junior and then really broke out in a in a
in a real way this final year. Nothing's ever gone wrong
overvaluing the TCU wide receiver for for anyone in the
fantasy football community. Yeah, I, I think, I think, I
think it's Besh. He's gonna be It's Besh.
It's Besh. I believe.
That's what I've I've most consistently heard now because
I've heard it both ways, but I'm starting.
To hear now we're into the heat, the meat of the season here.
Now when we have to figure out how names are pronounced and
then they'll get drafted and get into the league and they tell us
it was actually different than their college announcers were
saying for three years, which it's actually is.
It's actually beach. I think it is a strategy.
You know, you're distancing self.
You're almost like trying to reinvent yourself.
I'm going to change the. I'm going to be Ligat.
Ligat actually, yeah, I'm going to be a Chan now, even though
nobody ever. Called him.
Well now I can't even remember. Did he say a chain or a Chan?
It was a Chan. It was.
He was a chain on on go to bro. What do we go?
What do we do it when we don't know?
We look at go to YouTube, look up his college.
Highlights. You know that was.
That's what I do. I'm actually back in if it's
ashenay. I'm back in if it's bench, if
it's beach, I'm so in. I'm so in on beach.
I'm in on beach I think. He's a guy to take right now.
Yes, he is. He is a guy to hammer right now.
I think honestly, because so I, I went, I, I was pretty plugged
in on the Senior Bowl reaction stuff getting a sense because
like, here's the thing about the Senior Bowl, It is a big part of
the evaluation process for NFL teams, including NFL coaches,
who may or may not, but often may not have watched a ton of
these guys prior to going to the Senior Bowl.
So this is like a first impression bowl for a lot of the
NFL coaches. So you're getting like the the
chance for these guys to stand out and consistently stand out
is going to change draft capital in some meaningful ways.
And then, you know, you go and you there's all these guys,
they're all watching that. They're going to get the
practice film later and review it.
They're having conversations, right?
You're not like seeing every single Rep.
So some guys you're like, oh, this guy was a winner.
Like I saw like Kyle Williams was a winner.
And then you check another list like Kyle Williams is a loser of
the you know, so some you know, it's hard to tell who actually
had a good Senior Bowl who just flashed to some people with Jack
Besh. There is no ambiguity.
The dude had an awesome Senior Bowl, and then he catches the
game-winning touchdown in the. Game.
Yeah, he just lost his brother in that in the New Orleans
shooting. So there's like there's this
story of this guy coming in and having like the most incredible
Senior Bowl. He after the game is dedicating
it to his brother. It's like this is the story of
the offseason right now and it is not going unnoticed by the
NFL. On the NFL Stock Exchange.
Great podcast. They did a two round mock
following the Senior Bowl. He went 37 to the Raiders.
I think we're we're talking about a dude who like
meaningfully changed his perception and, you know, in the
in the actual NFL draft. So we just want like now when I
look at his profile, if I have to take Jack Besh in the 10th or
11th round, I'm not into. That no, no chance, dude.
If I had to take Jack Besh ahead of Keenan Allen, I'm out, right?
So take him now. Like we can see which way the
wind is blowing here. Take him now.
Makes sense? I agree.
Yeah, same. Same thing with the tight ends
right now too. Helm, Arroyo, Mason Taylor.
These are strict 20th round, last round.
Take them there because round 14 gunner helm is going to hit
different in a bad way, in like the worst possible way.
You do not want to be taking gunner Helm over Dalton Schultz.
You. You really don't.
And Gadsden out of Syracuse is ranking wise what, Davis like 8
or 9 right now Like NFL draft wise?
Yeah, because it's totally I the beholder situation where like he
cannot like, for example, he would like, could just not be a
Ram. Like if Gadsden got drafted by
like the Rams would like, he wouldn't even be on their board.
You know, because he can't do, he can't do the multifaceted
things. He, you know who you know, he'd
be a great fit. He'd be a great Bengal.
Because the Bengals always have about 8 tight ends and they
never have any of them do more than one thing.
Like you've got sample Kasiki, Erikal and and the one other guy
Hudson, and they all do something different.
He he'd be a really good Taylor Hudson.
For them it's good, good for Taylor Hudson.
Get back to a world where they have 7.
Times, Oh my God, the Colts, Colts, Colts are a Colts are a
lock to take a tight end in this class.
I think it's it's probably going to be Tyler Warren.
But the the tight end that I think is most intriguing coming
out of the Senior Bowl is actually Mason Taylor.
Elijah Royo had the buzziest Senior Bowl for for route
running reasons, and that's cool.
I'm into that too, but Arroyo is like a little bit more of like,
I think kind of like a receiver playing tight end and didn't
have a ton of production and he dealt with some injuries.
I think he was like later to to football.
And so like kind of an intriguing traits guy.
But then you have like Harold Fannin or I'm like, man, this
guy. It's kind of the intriguing
traits guy, tweener type. But it would like a ton of
production. I'm always going to prefer that
profile, but if you just want like a tight end, like a dude
who plays tight end and is good at blocking and there's no
issues about like where do you line him up?
How do you use him? He's a tight end.
You just use him like a tight end.
Mason Taylor had a really strong Senior Bowl for people.
He kind of more quietly, but just I think he really impressed
teams. I think he'll have solid, you
know, day 2 draft capital and we we actually have above a royal
by a decent amount right now and not too far behind Fannon at
this point cause Fannon's like if he gets if he's an H back,
that's going to really hurt us in best.
Fannon Fannon won't be an H back, but the concern is he like
might be a six round pick and if he's a six round pick it's over.
So, you know, I don't think so. He's Jason Morrow.
So Fannon and Kyle Dvorchek in our in a chat was saying like
there were reports he was moving like a quote slug.
It's like that's bad. And like some of the early, I
think day one was not impressive.
But I went and checked the, the, the zebra tracking stuff.
You know that like you can actually see the mph, 4th
fastest mph by a tight end in Senior Bowl history, fourth
fastest acceleration, like ninth fastest deceleration, a bunch of
explosive efforts, which is where you have acceleration and
deceleration on the same place. So he's, I think clearly like
the slug allegations were overblown.
Like he, he was moving. He was moving.
Well, I, I think Fannin there was, I was listening to Nate
Tice and Dane Bruegler kind of breaking it down and they're
kind of like, I don't know, like what Fannin is like is he, is he
a tight end? Is he kind of someone you just
move around the formation and kind of a specialized role, but
they were like, but there are teams who are pretty interested
in him. So I I think Fannon was a.
They should be. He had fucking 53% of his
colleges receiving production and they were.
I think they won seven games too, so it's not.
Like they did it against good schools at times.
Like they didn't they didn't always play good schools, but
when they did, he was productive.
So yeah, Fannon I think is some like I'm a little cooler on than
I would like to be, but I'm still going to draft this dude.
It it, it's a he's a, he's a big receiver with tight end
eligibility who was super productive in college.
Well, I'm in, it's a family name and he's from a part of the
world where my grandfather and my mom is from, so it might even
be related. I'll have to look into that down
the road, but excited about him anyway.
Thank you guys. Davis wins for the blue lights.
Pat No Murphy. My camera fell apart, so we'll
try to do better the next week for Pat and Davis.
I'm Mike Schoe, thanks for watching.
ADP Chasing talk to you next week.