1
00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,920
Hi there. 
Welcome to Buffalo, home for me 

2
00:00:06,000 --> 00:00:08,560
and also sadly in this case, not
New Orleans. 

3
00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,200
We'll hit on the Super Bowl 
briefly today, but of course, 

4
00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,080
we've reached the early best 
ball season, tournaments and 

5
00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,480
trends to talk about, rookies to
talk about off the Senior Bowl. 

6
00:00:18,920 --> 00:00:22,680
And I've cooked up a little 
thing I'm trying here about some

7
00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:25,280
of the most prolific veteran 
receivers in the league. 

8
00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,480
Last year we didn't know. 
Well, maybe we thought we did. 

9
00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,440
What to do with the veteran 
running backs who would change 

10
00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,560
teams and what that meant to 
fantasy football this year. 

11
00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:36,720
Not as much movement, likely 
with those guys who mostly did 

12
00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:40,920
well, but the old receivers 
could offer value or a trap. 

13
00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:43,360
We'll get into it. 
Let's fire it up with our heroes

14
00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:45,640
Pat, Karine and Davis Maddock. 
I'm your host Mike Show, but 

15
00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,200
this is ADP chasing February 
4th, 2025. 

16
00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,840
ADP chasing is for when you 
watch ship chasing you go these 

17
00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,800
guys are just football guys and 
the targets per outrun leagues. 

18
00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:58,720
That's going to be really nice, 
actually, back in, if it's 

19
00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:00,360
Austinette, it's. 
Stared to our crystal ball. 

20
00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,600
Close your eyes, you know all 
your entries are going to lose 

21
00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:05,680
anyway. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

22
00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:07,040
This is a Deuce Vant show. 
It's. 

23
00:01:07,320 --> 00:01:09,880
Anti cabal. 
It's anti the best ball thought 

24
00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,040
leader. 
I'm obviously lying to some 

25
00:01:12,040 --> 00:01:14,680
degree because like, I have a 
lot of both of these guys. 

26
00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,760
It's the most disgusting thing 
you can make, but. 

27
00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:24,520
Man. 
Well, not like it's my fault, 

28
00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,520
but sorry to not be able to 
offer you both and our loyal 

29
00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:33,680
listeners and viewers a Radio 
Row, you know, vibe here. 

30
00:01:35,080 --> 00:01:39,240
I've done five of those and I 
think they're mostly still the 

31
00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:40,920
same. 
It's pretty gross. 

32
00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:45,360
You know, you have three classes
of, you know, potential guests, 

33
00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:49,560
celebrities at Radio Row. 
You've got the cool mid famous 

34
00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,840
football celebrities, mostly 
media, some retired legends like

35
00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,800
I go back 2025 years, like we 
had no trouble getting Joe 

36
00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,320
Montana every year to go on 
Buffalo radio. 

37
00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,920
You have, like Ross Tucker, the 
late John Clayton for this Trey 

38
00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:05,920
Wingo that you know, sure, I'll 
come over. 

39
00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:09,479
And you have in in a sense, I 
would say there is a radio vibe 

40
00:02:09,479 --> 00:02:12,440
going on here because I can 
barely make that make you out 

41
00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,880
your your video is. 
Your your Cam, your camera's 

42
00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,440
you. 
You're just if you just tap your

43
00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:23,040
camera, it'll it should it's 
focused on your microphone, not 

44
00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:24,000
on you. 
It happens to me. 

45
00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,120
It happens to. 
My microphone Davis Davis has 

46
00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,400
new lights going on. 
His camera is so high def I feel

47
00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,840
like I can see him move before 
he even he even activates his 

48
00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,760
his muscles right. 
I clearly just got up. 

49
00:02:37,800 --> 00:02:40,480
There's there's two radio guys 
in a professional streamer on 

50
00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,560
this. 
Am I better or no? 

51
00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:48,280
It's try, try moving your 
microphone to, to out of frame, 

52
00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:53,360
'cause it's just, it's just 
focusing on your, it's just, I 

53
00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:54,560
don't know. 
I don't know. 

54
00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:58,760
I need to, we need, we need to 
hire, we need to hire Keats. 

55
00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,040
We need to hire. 
The solution was, but it wasn't 

56
00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,880
that. 
He probably unplugged his 

57
00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:09,760
Logitech camera, which, you 
know, we're, we're all, we're 

58
00:03:09,760 --> 00:03:12,560
all in there. 
Yeah, man, we are. 

59
00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,080
How do I sound? 
By the way, this is a new mic. 

60
00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,080
You sound good. 
I need to do what you have, so I

61
00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:21,240
need to get I and I have one. 
I need to get the arm, but I'm 

62
00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:25,720
I'm just continuing my Rd. of 
trying to be like Peter in which

63
00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:29,760
I just just continually try and 
slowly upgrade. 

64
00:03:29,920 --> 00:03:32,600
I'm not I'm not quite there yet.
I can do this is cool though. 

65
00:03:32,920 --> 00:03:35,920
I can change the I can change, I
can change the colors. 

66
00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,640
This cost this cost $9 off of 
off of. 

67
00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:42,080
Amazon. 
It's actually not that hard, 

68
00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:43,720
it's just mostly an effort 
thing. 

69
00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,440
I, you know what inspired me 
though? 

70
00:03:47,280 --> 00:03:51,280
I was doing some scouting on my,
my fellow YouTube competitors 

71
00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,440
and I was just like watching old
Liam videos. 

72
00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,480
I was watching some of the Spags
videos. 

73
00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,240
I was watching some of Peter's 
old videos and I happened to 

74
00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:02,640
click on an old chess Liam video
where he just, he was just in 

75
00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,240
his computer room and he just 
had two little rinky dink 

76
00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,000
lights, right? 
I was just, I was because I 

77
00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,000
clearly, I knew I've been where 
Liam's been many times. 

78
00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:13,840
So it's like I can make this 
better. 

79
00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,959
I can improve this, but I'm 
going to, I'm going to do it in 

80
00:04:16,959 --> 00:04:21,279
the most half ass way possible. 
I'm just going to, I'm just 

81
00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:24,600
going to do it in the the the 
ass, maybe even quarter ass. 

82
00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:29,320
Quarter ass. 
Quarter ass I'm I'm about 75% 

83
00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,760
ass. 
Yeah, this is This is more than 

84
00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:33,320
half an ass. 
This is definitely more than. 

85
00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,080
Half an ass. 
It's more than half an ass, but 

86
00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,920
to but to but the whole asset. 
What I'm going to have to do is 

87
00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:41,760
I'm going to have to turn my 
entire desk around and I'm going

88
00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:46,120
to have to get a third bookshelf
so that I can be further. 

89
00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:47,520
Away because the reason why the 
reason? 

90
00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,560
Why the reason why Pete's looks 
so good is that Peter's lights 

91
00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:52,960
are. 
About are behind. 

92
00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:54,760
They're about 20 feet behind 
him. 

93
00:04:55,160 --> 00:05:00,080
These lights are about, I mean, 
they're about 18 inches behind 

94
00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:03,200
me. 
So there's no ability to create 

95
00:05:04,200 --> 00:05:05,200
any depth. 
There we go. 

96
00:05:05,240 --> 00:05:06,440
You're better. 
You're better now. 

97
00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:08,760
You are. 
Yeah. 

98
00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:11,080
We strip it all down. 
Sorry about that. 

99
00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:14,840
You got a nickname? 
Soap Freeze, Frame Crane choppy,

100
00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:19,920
choppy, choppy, choppy, choppy. 
I don't know which one gets gets

101
00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:21,680
the O changed. 
It's all good. 

102
00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:23,480
You have to mess the 
pronunciation up. 

103
00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,440
Choppy. 
Choppy. 

104
00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:28,400
Well, anyway, any questions 
about radio row? 

105
00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:33,160
Probably not, you know. 
I mean, I've just never 

106
00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:35,960
understood this. 
A lot of people go to the Super 

107
00:05:35,960 --> 00:05:38,000
Bowl, right? 
Peter has been to the Super Bowl

108
00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:42,200
3 times I believe. 
My old company used to send 

109
00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,120
everyone, used to basically send
the whole company. 

110
00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:46,720
We were in New Jersey and New 
York. 

111
00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,960
They would basically send 
everyone there, but no one went 

112
00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:53,120
to the game, right? 
You go and you go to radio row 

113
00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,120
and then you don't get to go to 
the game, which to me, you know,

114
00:05:56,120 --> 00:05:58,840
they asked me if I wanted to go 
and I'm like, absolutely not. 

115
00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,880
Do I want to go sit in a hotel 
room, get sweaty on radio row 

116
00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:07,280
for a week? 
You know, basically just like 

117
00:06:07,280 --> 00:06:12,640
beg a linebacker of the 1987 New
England Patriots to give me a 

118
00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:14,240
little bit of their attention 
and then go home. 

119
00:06:14,520 --> 00:06:15,920
Absolutely not. 
No. 

120
00:06:15,920 --> 00:06:20,040
And, and many people, in fact, 
flew the day of the Super Bowl. 

121
00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:21,120
I mean, just no. 
Thank you. 

122
00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:22,320
Wow. 
No, thank you. 

123
00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:25,320
We we never stayed. 
We would go Sunday and leave 

124
00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:28,360
Saturday morning. 
So I never went to a game, but 

125
00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,720
we went five years. 
There were great times. 

126
00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,560
It's really about after the show
or before, like going to play 

127
00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:38,240
Sawgrass or the 17th, like that 
island green when the Super Bowl

128
00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:41,320
was in Jacksonville or just 
different parties and dinners. 

129
00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:45,160
Like that's the cool part. 
But it is like Bulldog. 

130
00:06:45,160 --> 00:06:48,200
Pat loves the Bulldog. 
My WGR Co host, I'll never 

131
00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:49,600
forget the time. 
Big bulldog guy. 

132
00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,000
So you are a big bulldog guy. 
Some guys are like sort of right

133
00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,320
in your wheelhouse. 
We're mid market and some guys 

134
00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,600
are just above you, right. 
You better be New York or Boston

135
00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:02,600
or Chicago, get their attention.
So we were probably feeling 

136
00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,560
pretty good. 
We're like 20 or 30 feet away 

137
00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:08,520
from Warren Sapp and he's 
surrounded by like Warren Sapp 

138
00:07:08,520 --> 00:07:11,320
needs a team, but he's 
surrounded by guys that look 

139
00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,520
just like Warren Sapp and 
Bulldogs. 

140
00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:17,080
Like, let me take a shot, 
Bulldogs like 65270, something 

141
00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:18,760
like that. 
You know, he fits right in. 

142
00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:24,480
He got like two strides toward 
Warren Sapp and everybody turned

143
00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:28,520
and like, back off right? 
This you're not whoever you are,

144
00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:30,920
you're not getting near Warren 
Sapp. 

145
00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,320
Like so a lot of it's like 
really pathetic and you know, 

146
00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,720
whatever you feel really small, 
but it's, it's cool in a way. 

147
00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:41,880
I I wish I were there. 
Yeah, it seems like a good time.

148
00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:45,800
Shout out to my old company 
Rotoworld used to send the team 

149
00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,400
to the Super Bowl. 
By the team I mean right now, 

150
00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,280
Matthew Berry, Lawrence Jackson 
Rhodopat and Denny Carter. 

151
00:07:52,280 --> 00:07:54,120
Not me. 
I never, I never got to go. 

152
00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,560
Did they ever did they ever ask 
you to go? 

153
00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:00,960
No, no, there was, there was a 
limited, limited seats I think. 

154
00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,360
Does does Kyle? 
Did Kyle? 

155
00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:04,400
Is Kyle there? 
Did Kyle? 

156
00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:10,880
And only Kyle's been been tapped
either, but I believe Pat and 

157
00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:13,840
Denny are there again. 
Well, they had good guests. 

158
00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:16,640
Like I remember them talking to 
Tony Pollard and that's like the

159
00:08:16,640 --> 00:08:19,640
kind of the guy you can get, but
you know, there are bigger. 

160
00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,680
Stars there that you can't well,
they they send like the 

161
00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,520
production team and everything. 
So they they like pre go out. 

162
00:08:24,520 --> 00:08:27,680
I remember who was a couple 
years ago, they were doing 

163
00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,240
interviews and someone was was 
doing some NFT project. 

164
00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:35,280
You know that the players got to
come on and talk defroject. 

165
00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:37,799
So the players, some of the 
players are, you know, are kind 

166
00:08:37,799 --> 00:08:41,159
of having incentives to get on 
and are still, you might say. 

167
00:08:41,520 --> 00:08:43,840
Are you guys old enough to 
remember Donovan McNabb and his 

168
00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:47,000
mom pitching Chunky Soup? 
Yeah. 

169
00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:50,800
Oh yeah. 
So like, McNabb was one of the 

170
00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:54,080
biggest stars in the league, but
we would always get him if you 

171
00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,920
got his mom with him. 
Like you had them both and you 

172
00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:59,520
mostly talked about chunky soup,
but that was the deal. 

173
00:08:59,680 --> 00:09:03,960
Brian Urlacher, we he signed. 
It was, no, it was Chad 

174
00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:08,400
Ochocinco who signed deodorant, 
a stick of deodorant for, for 

175
00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,880
the station because that was he 
what he was pitching. 

176
00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,440
And you're not getting Ocho 
Cinco unless you're talking. 

177
00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:14,240
About is he? 
Are you? 

178
00:09:14,360 --> 00:09:16,480
Is he getting paid by the stick?
Like what? 

179
00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:20,760
He's paid by the stick. 
He's paid by the stick that. 

180
00:09:21,960 --> 00:09:23,600
Seems like a bad deal. 
I don't have to. 

181
00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,520
It's. 
A pretty it's a pretty good rate

182
00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,000
per stick I imagine. 
It must be much. 

183
00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:36,120
Per stick BPS Well, you know, 
moving on, I've got a little 

184
00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:37,400
thing cooked up for you late for
later. 

185
00:09:37,400 --> 00:09:40,800
But Davis, what do we need to 
know about the rookies, the 

186
00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:44,040
Senior Bowl, the Shrine game? 
Like what's changed since we 

187
00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:48,200
talked last anything? 
I mean, I think the two biggest 

188
00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:52,680
things that you'll have to 
adjust for is Ollie Gordon is 

189
00:09:52,680 --> 00:09:56,200
now like a 13th round pick after
the first like 3 days of the 

190
00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,760
contest. 
Being a guy you could get what I

191
00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:03,280
don't know, 19 rounds. 
ETR has him super high in his 

192
00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:05,960
default ranks, which is one of 
the reasons. 

193
00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,920
And then the other reason is he 
was like one of the guys that so

194
00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:16,040
he weighed 233 at the Senior 
Bowl, which is it's you look, 

195
00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,560
the way the guy moves, it's 
pretty good to be 233. 

196
00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:21,880
And he also, just like in the, 
you know, the interviews and 

197
00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:26,040
everything, like the Senior Bowl
is not set up for running backs 

198
00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,840
to do well, like running, 
running back drill. 

199
00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,720
The game is not going to revolve
around them. 

200
00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,400
They're not really going to have
any big meaningful plays. 

201
00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,200
But he was just one of the guys 
that got really strong reviews. 

202
00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,800
And then Jack Beck. 
I hadn't heard that. 

203
00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,240
I I he he whipped on a bunch of 
pass protection stuff is what 

204
00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,960
for what I saw. 
So I don't know. 

205
00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,280
I the Ollie Gordon hype has 
caught me off guard and I'm not 

206
00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,680
he's tricky because he was such 
a big prospect. 

207
00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,600
Like I went back and looked at 
this college football best ball 

208
00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:58,160
draft I did with Roton. 
And. 

209
00:10:58,400 --> 00:11:00,000
First, he was the second pick, 
yeah. 

210
00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,320
And so you know. 
If only we had some frame of 

211
00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:06,880
reference for an Oklahoma State 
running back who absolutely 

212
00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:11,280
smashed as a sophomore, then was
markedly worse as a junior, got 

213
00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,320
under drafted in the NFL Draft 
and got paid $32 million 

214
00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:16,680
guaranteed just if there was. 
How do you do as a rookie, 

215
00:11:16,880 --> 00:11:18,840
though? 
Davis is, you know, in in these.

216
00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,080
I I literally do. 
I actually don't. 

217
00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:24,080
I don't remember. 
I I like actually don't 

218
00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:24,680
remember. 
Tuba. 

219
00:11:24,680 --> 00:11:28,040
Yeah, it's 612 yards better than
I would have thought, but it 

220
00:11:28,040 --> 00:11:29,680
wasn't. 
Since you're bringing up Tuba 

221
00:11:29,680 --> 00:11:32,760
Hubbard, isn't he a buy right 
now in in dynasty or no? 

222
00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:35,640
No, I think he's like the I 
think he's like, if you could 

223
00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,120
get the two O 3 for him right 
now, I'd sell that so fast. 

224
00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:41,800
Well, he's. 
I would, I would, I would trade 

225
00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,760
the two O 3 for tuba. 
He's he's locked in. 

226
00:11:44,120 --> 00:11:47,280
He's somewhat protected by the 
Brooks draft capital. 

227
00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,160
They're they're less incentivize
the draft of running back in a 

228
00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:54,240
deep class. 
Yeah, So I, this is my current 

229
00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:57,640
operational theory. 
Every running back you think is 

230
00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:00,280
safe in this class is the least 
safe they've ever been. 

231
00:12:00,560 --> 00:12:09,920
I I think Karine, we could see 
up to 12 running backs go before

232
00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,440
the end of round three, maybe 
more. 

233
00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,720
I I think everything I'm. 
Hearing. 

234
00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:18,560
I think everything we're 
hearing, all the brueglers, all 

235
00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:22,880
the Field Yates's, all the Lance
Zerlins, all the people who are 

236
00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,680
plugged in, we are, we are 
getting breathless quotes about 

237
00:12:26,680 --> 00:12:32,200
this running back class like 
Laquint Allen, who depending on 

238
00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:36,600
your point of view, like is like
a fourth round pick, sixth round

239
00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,880
pick, something like that, like 
even this guy's. 

240
00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:42,200
Getting. 
And now we're it's like we're 

241
00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,440
getting Laquint Allen hype. 
We're getting, we're getting 

242
00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,720
hype about everyone we got. 
We have, I don't remember if it 

243
00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:52,480
was Bruegler or Yates who said 
he's hearing Trevion Henderson 

244
00:12:52,680 --> 00:12:53,920
is going to be a first round 
pick. 

245
00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,160
And like, OK, Trevion Henderson 
is a first round pick. 

246
00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,920
Then what's going to happen with
the guy who was better than him 

247
00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:00,160
last year? 
What was going to happen with 

248
00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,120
the guy who got the ball more 
times than him last year? 

249
00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,760
You know, I think it's going to 
go the other way. 

250
00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:08,840
I think someone that we don't 
expect to fall to Round 3 will 

251
00:13:09,680 --> 00:13:14,840
like I would not be surprised if
Quin, Shawn Judkins or you know,

252
00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,640
one of these other guys like Cam
Scataboo who are who. 

253
00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:19,520
Are exciting Scataboo. 
Scataboo is going to be a 

254
00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,400
faller, I think. 
I think people are a little over

255
00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,680
their skis on on Mr. Scataboo. 
Yeah, I, I mean like Devin Neil,

256
00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:27,760
I think he's still like, if you 
look at database. 

257
00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,520
Don't put it. 
Don't put it in the universe. 

258
00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,200
He's still above 100 now. 
I think some of their stuff is 

259
00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:35,400
it's, I think it's a bad time 
because I was looking like what 

260
00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:39,200
mucks are feeding this and it's 
kind of some old stuff just 

261
00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:40,880
pulls. 
In everything mock draft out of 

262
00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:42,520
everything pulls in literally 
everything. 

263
00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,440
Yeah, grinding the mocks. 
Can we, can we expand what's 

264
00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:46,760
public, please? 
That would be helpful. 

265
00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,200
But the, yeah, if you look at 
Devin Neil, he's still at 106. 

266
00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,000
I think if you were like taking 
the temperature, he's probably 

267
00:13:55,000 --> 00:14:00,200
at around 80 now. 
But that's still, that's still 

268
00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:04,840
third round, not second. 
I I would say like Genti, 

269
00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:08,840
Hampton and then two of Caleb 
Johnson, Henderson and Judkins 

270
00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,360
are all going to go round two or
earlier. 

271
00:14:12,560 --> 00:14:16,720
Top 50. 
Maybe top 50, but I would say 

272
00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:21,080
that to me it's like 4 guys, 
maybe five and then like 6 would

273
00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:22,520
be froth. 
How many did you say would go 

274
00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,600
Round 2? 
Day 2. 

275
00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:28,600
Day 2. 
So. 12 by date, end of day. 212 

276
00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,960
OK, that that I could that I 
think is like on the high end of

277
00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:34,720
what's possible. 
But, but think about, think 

278
00:14:34,720 --> 00:14:38,080
about the massive earthquake 
that that means for fantasy 

279
00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,960
football. 
If that does happen, if 12 guys 

280
00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,400
go, I mean that is that is 1/3 
of the league where our our 

281
00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,400
projections or our base 
assumptions right we're making 

282
00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:53,960
right now are useless. 
Yeah, although I mean, so this 

283
00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:58,600
class is definitely deep, but 
it's deep in a way that's 

284
00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:02,240
there's lots of guys who are 
interesting in it. 

285
00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:07,320
I don't think it's deep in terms
of like day one starters job 

286
00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:09,160
takers. 
Maybe it is, maybe it's. 

287
00:15:09,880 --> 00:15:12,960
I should say it's, I mean. 
It is, but it's not like 12 deep

288
00:15:12,960 --> 00:15:16,600
in that it's. 
So job takers is like subjective

289
00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:18,880
because there's like no such 
thing. 

290
00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,720
But other than like Gen. 
T, like if Gen. 

291
00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:26,240
T goes somewhere, then sure. 
But like, OK, imagine the 

292
00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:28,600
Panthers last year, they get 
this or two years ago, they get 

293
00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,400
this great production out of two
of Hubbard very unexpectedly. 

294
00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,920
And then they spend the second 
round pick on Jonathan Brooks. 

295
00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:36,200
Well, Jonathan Brooks is not 
going to play this year. 

296
00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:39,400
What what do we know about this 
Panthers regime? 

297
00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:42,280
They probably view figuring out 
the running back situation as 

298
00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:44,760
pretty important. 
They just got the production out

299
00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,920
of Hubbard and then took Brooks.
What would stop them from taking

300
00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,920
Quinch on Judkins in the third 
round? 

301
00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:53,360
You and I might say that's a bad
use of resources. 

302
00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,160
You have to do something else. 
And then they'd say, no, that's 

303
00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,280
actually a good use of resources
because we need a running back. 

304
00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,680
But they shouldn't. 
We have this conversation every 

305
00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,200
week, I mean. 
They But Davis is right. 

306
00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,240
But they should they. 
Do the teams do that? 

307
00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,800
And it's frustrating. 
It's very frustrating. 

308
00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,040
But it I mean, like Lance Erlein
yesterday put out a mock draft 

309
00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:14,560
that had at at 7 The Jets taking
Ashton Gente and he's like 

310
00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,640
Breece Hall's never gotten to 
1000 yards. 

311
00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:19,360
And and and and and in our 
brain. 

312
00:16:19,360 --> 00:16:21,680
Recovering from an. 
ACL, hence the thumbnail. 

313
00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,880
Hence the thumbnail. 
But in our brain, we go, well, 

314
00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,240
that couldn't be Dumber. 
You know who thinks about things

315
00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,080
like Breece Hall's never had 
1000 yards? 

316
00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:31,640
Guys who draft in the NFL draft,
guys who have been around 

317
00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,560
football. 
You think Lance Erlein is, is 

318
00:16:33,560 --> 00:16:36,320
the only person who's had that 
thought that Breece Hall's never

319
00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:38,960
had 1000 yards? 
I guarantee you there are 

320
00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,360
football guys who are like Bri 
Sal, dude, he's soft. 

321
00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:43,480
No, but it's going the right 
way. 

322
00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,360
It's going the right way. 
We have to remember what we 

323
00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:50,120
think is is right. 
These teams they're talking 

324
00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,440
about, the Panthers and The 
Jets, are terrible, always. 

325
00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:55,040
No, I I think these teams have 
been shaken. 

326
00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,880
Up and be like this is bad. 
OK, but but think about think 

327
00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,160
about the recency bias and and 
the way the winds are blowing. 

328
00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,200
You have Saquon Barkley like 
literally carrying a team to a 

329
00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:12,680
Super Bowl Henry Henry. 
You have Jameer Gibbs looking 

330
00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:15,160
like an absolute smash. 
So the lions were paying for 

331
00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,200
that pick. 
So, you know, I think T now I 

332
00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:24,560
it's a different thing to to 
look at, you know, like the 

333
00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,520
maybe the best offensive tackle 
in the class potentially 

334
00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,400
available at 7 and go no running
back while you already have a 

335
00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:34,640
guy you spent a second round 
pick on. 

336
00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:38,600
That's that is crazy. 
I I know it's different thing 

337
00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:41,160
than than finding an undervalued
guy in free agency where there's

338
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,240
not that many good players 
available in free agency. 

339
00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,480
So just spend the money on on 
the undervalued running back. 

340
00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,480
Like I think that part of it I 
I. 

341
00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:50,280
Did. 
Happen The free agency class 

342
00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,760
made a point this year, but. 
They did cookies. 

343
00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,440
And now this free agents class 
is dust. 

344
00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,440
It's Aaron Jones and it's Naji 
Harris. 

345
00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,960
The Eagles and the Ravens. 
Don't forget about Raid O'dell. 

346
00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:03,800
We all know this. 
They were already great. 

347
00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:07,920
So sure, you add these running 
backs who are going to be great 

348
00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,240
and their teams are still great.
So yeah, we what are these days?

349
00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,200
It's. 
Not how NFL teams decide things,

350
00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:15,040
though NFL teams love running 
backs. 

351
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:18,880
They also love good players. 
If you can, if you're like this 

352
00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,400
guy's the best player available,
I'm sorry, but he's the best 

353
00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,920
player at our pick. 
We're going to take good 

354
00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:25,240
football. 
The way I'm going to build my 

355
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,320
team is I'm going to draft good 
football players. 

356
00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:29,240
I'm taking, I'm taking highest 
on the board. 

357
00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:30,840
Best player available. 
Yeah. 

358
00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,960
It's a little bit less like that
every year is all I'm saying. 

359
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,680
And by the way, you know, if 
four or five guys go in the top 

360
00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:45,400
50 in 2025, running backs, I 
think it was 5, might have been 

361
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:49,720
4 went in the top 55. 
Just none of them went until CEH

362
00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,400
at pick 32. 
But then you got Swift and 

363
00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:58,480
Taylor and eventually Dobbins 
was the last one of that. 

364
00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:01,040
I was going to say this, that's 
actually a good comp. 

365
00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:06,080
The 2020 running back class is a
good comp, but it would be like 

366
00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:09,240
if there were also a bunch of 
dudes who were draftable in the 

367
00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:13,400
third round. 
And I, I like if you, if you 

368
00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,680
think about South like Keyshawn 
Vaughn, but imagine if Keyshawn 

369
00:19:16,680 --> 00:19:20,680
Vaughn was good, AJ Dillon, but 
if AJ Dillon was good, Darrenton

370
00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:22,840
Evans, but if Darrenton Evans 
was good. 

371
00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,480
On things like that, one of the 
things I think about this class 

372
00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,680
is that there's a lot of and 
imagine if this guy was good 

373
00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:38,240
type of analysis going on where 
like, you know, as a prospect, I

374
00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:42,280
would say DeAndre Swift just as 
good as any of the non gente 

375
00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:46,640
guys in this class as a 
prospect, right, Very explosive 

376
00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,600
passes. 
Well, yeah, but we were very 

377
00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:54,720
excited about Swift. 
You know, JK Dobbins on on par 

378
00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:58,840
with every non gente guy in this
class Cam Akers on par with 

379
00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:01,840
every non gente guy in this 
class 5250 second pick one ahead

380
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:05,640
of Dobbins. 
Dylan another guy right there 

381
00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:07,560
with all the non gente. 
Guys, Akers was the other one, 

382
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,840
right? 
Akers Clyde Edwards E Lehrer, 

383
00:20:10,880 --> 00:20:13,480
who was drafted 32nd overall to 
the chiefs. 

384
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:16,920
We would probably be taking 
ahead of every non gente guy in 

385
00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:21,080
this class in drafts if we if we
erased our brains Jonathan 

386
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,520
Taylor, we would definitely take
over every non gente guy. 

387
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,800
Now he's hit now you know, but 
there's you know, Dobbins was a 

388
00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,080
very talented player got her 
acres had a really strong end to

389
00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,360
his rookie season. 
Tears as AC tears as Achilles. 

390
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:35,640
So you know, there's some some 
stuff going on. 

391
00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,760
Zach Moss was one of the third 
round guys. 

392
00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,320
He, you know, bounced around, 
never really had success early 

393
00:20:41,320 --> 00:20:43,000
in his career. 
Eventually had a little run 

394
00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:45,360
there. 
Keyshawn Vaughn, I mean he was 

395
00:20:45,360 --> 00:20:47,760
going because of the opportunity
ahead of him. 

396
00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,160
He ended up going like very high
in rookie drafts. 

397
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:53,760
I was in a rookie draft where he
went like one O 5, one O 6 in a 

398
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:55,760
Superflex. 
So there there was some 

399
00:20:55,760 --> 00:20:59,800
excitement about him. 
This class has a lot of guys 

400
00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:04,320
that I think are really good 
second round rookie picks and 

401
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,240
great third round dart throw 
types. 

402
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,720
It does not have that many like 
locked in definitely going to 

403
00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,920
hit players other than Genti in 
my opinion. 

404
00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,320
And then there's like Hampton, 
Judkins, Henderson, Caleb 

405
00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:19,840
Johnson. 
I think scataboo. 

406
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,640
As long as the draft capital is 
good, I expect at least like 

407
00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,560
three of those guys to be to be 
pretty damn impactful. 

408
00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,320
But they're not like such good 
prospects where you wouldn't be 

409
00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:32,920
shocked if, like, Caleb Johnson 
was a little bit of a plotter in

410
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:36,000
the NFL level or Judkins didn't 
really like, have that much. 

411
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,760
Jesus, the one, the one I think 
has the greatest ability to 

412
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,240
disappoint is Henderson. 
Where he? 

413
00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,080
Never got. 
He never. 

414
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:44,000
Got a goal? 
Yeah. 

415
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,400
He's basically Naheem Heinz. 
Like more or less. 

416
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:47,800
He's big. 
Naheem Heinz. 

417
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,720
Yeah. 
I mean, they're these guys all 

418
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,480
have. 
So when you think about how many

419
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,720
got and I did a little exercise 
on this, how many guys are 

420
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,040
actually going to succeed to 
where they take roles? 

421
00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:03,960
I was, I was like Gente. 
Well, like I'm just counting 

422
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:08,280
Gente at 100%. 
You know, he's he's less than 

423
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:13,320
100, but not like a ton less. 
And then like probably three of 

424
00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:18,720
those five guys, the the Hampton
Johnson, Judkins, Henderson, 

425
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:24,680
Scatabo, probably just like one 
of the guys in like kind of the 

426
00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,560
the round tier guy. 
And I would say it's probably 

427
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:31,160
Devin Neil and you could maybe 
maybe revise that up to include 

428
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:32,160
Neil. 
So let's let's do that. 

429
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:36,280
So we'll say two of those guys 
and then like probably like one 

430
00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,560
of the Burchard Smith type guys 
and then like a couple random 

431
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,080
dudes. 
So we just don't expect from I. 

432
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:45,440
Was going to say then then 
someone who goes undrafted or 

433
00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,360
round seven will just like 
randomly get good injury luck 

434
00:22:48,360 --> 00:22:50,800
and end up playing. 
But as as a rookie is probably 

435
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,520
just like one and then like 
probably one or two of the free 

436
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:57,440
agents. 
So there's like 9 to 10. 

437
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,840
If we're going to be, let's be 
optimistic and say there's like 

438
00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:03,120
10, including the free agent 
class, which sucks. 

439
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:06,360
As you pointed out, there's 
probably 10 running backs 

440
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:10,880
capable of taking jobs by the 
end of the year. 

441
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:19,680
There's yeah, 19 jobs that look 
shaky. 

442
00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:27,200
So I think in some ways I think 
maybe like we shouldn't be that 

443
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:30,520
of like basically half of the 
running backs who look shaky 

444
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,000
will probably have roles, the 
veterans. 

445
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,160
Yeah. 
And I'm talking about, you know,

446
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:43,920
like backfields, like the 
Bengals, like the Browns, like 

447
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:51,320
the Texans, like the Jaguars. 
I'm not a Joe Mixon fan. 

448
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:52,960
Including the Texans, maybe a 
little bit. 

449
00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:57,240
Raiders. 
Raiders, Yeah, well, some 

450
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,000
backfields are like, they just 
don't have anybody. 

451
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:04,480
So you'd think the Raiders, the 
Vikings, the the the Browns 

452
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,680
would probably be against the 
Cowboys, probably be against 

453
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,880
someone somehow. 
But there's like there's roles 

454
00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:10,520
where you're like, I don't know,
like. 

455
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,240
And then equally there are guys 
who are being counted on right 

456
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,240
now like Crane, I agree with 
your point. 

457
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:19,800
Like guys we think are shaky are
just going to actually like be 

458
00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:22,480
nutted out and some. 
Some of them are going to hit 

459
00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:24,960
the nuts. 
But then also there's going to 

460
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,000
be guys, and I don't know who it
is, but like someone like Kyron 

461
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:36,320
or Kenneth Walker or James 
Conner or Josh Jacobs or Brian 

462
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:40,320
Robinson Junior, someone who the
market is, is saying, oh, this 

463
00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,880
guy's just running. 
It's they're just running it 

464
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,800
back. 
They're not going to run it 

465
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,200
back. 
There's going to be a huge 

466
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:48,360
change in their role. 
One way you got to get this, 

467
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,880
you, you have to remove his. 
I like historical anomalies as 

468
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,280
much as you, but you got. 
To Yeah, I know. 

469
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:54,000
Oh, I'm sorry, I just left that 
up there. 

470
00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,160
Doesn't even rhyme. 
Doesn't even. 

471
00:24:58,360 --> 00:24:58,960
Rhyme. 
All right, chop. 

472
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,840
Let's play this game. 
Let's go. 

473
00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:05,280
All right, This is my hopefully 
not feeble attempt at 

474
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:09,320
entertaining everybody with a 
little bit of a, you know, Super

475
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:10,760
Bowl, right? 
Super Bowl is about the history 

476
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,200
of the game. 
It's also, we're going to get 

477
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,760
some ADP analysis here. 
And like I mentioned at the Open

478
00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:21,360
last year, we had old running 
backs who ruined our lives 

479
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:23,600
worked out. 
And I wonder what will happen 

480
00:25:23,600 --> 00:25:26,280
here with receivers. 
So you're both on, your honor. 

481
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:31,720
We've got the names of the top 
25 receivers by yards in NFL 

482
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:35,600
history among active players. 
The names on the right I decided

483
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:39,240
to leave out. 
Maybe Tyler Lockett is somebody 

484
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,560
we'll draft a little of or not. 
I did just take him in a draft 

485
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,040
yesterday. 
I didn't feel good about it, but

486
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,280
I did. 
Is anyone else on that list? 

487
00:25:47,280 --> 00:25:50,000
Julio Jones, who's number one 
and still this is by Pro 

488
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:53,280
Football Reference, still 
considered an active player? 

489
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,680
Brandon Cooks, Tyler Lockett, 
Jimmy Graham? 

490
00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:58,680
Robert Woods? 
Odell Beckham Junior. 

491
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:02,400
With disrespectful the Robert 
Woods who is was just playing 

492
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,960
like a month ago. 
Yeah, I know. 

493
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,360
Like so so is Beckham, right? 
I mean, these guys are in so is 

494
00:26:08,360 --> 00:26:09,720
Robinson. 
Some these guys are in the 

495
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:13,600
league, but are we we're I think
we're mostly done with most, if 

496
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,400
not all of them. 
So I left them out and and part 

497
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,880
of the fun I think will be 
trying to identify. 

498
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,200
I'm sure you guys will do well. 
You guys do well. 

499
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:23,880
But who these other players on 
the left are? 

500
00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:28,680
So, you know, let's take turns. 
Davis, you're on the top of the 

501
00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,920
screen here. 
Who's somebody that you know or 

502
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:32,280
you think you know is on this 
list? 

503
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:35,640
And then we'll talk about what 
what they are. 

504
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:41,560
Mike Evans will be somewhere on 
this list just because he's been

505
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:43,920
in the season. 
He's been in the NFL for nine 

506
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,760
years and had a bunch of 1000 
yard seasons. 

507
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,680
Mike Evans 32, last year's 
underdog ATP I got these from 

508
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:58,600
Hayden on his Twitter last year.
27.1 He's still under contract 

509
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:03,360
with Tampa. 
How afraid are we going to be? 

510
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,200
If that's the right word, maybe 
it isn't to draft Evans. 

511
00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,360
I'm I'm not afraid, I don't 
think. 

512
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,840
I've, I've been drafting Evans. 
Evans is not a player that I was

513
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:20,440
excited to draft last year. 
You know, he, he came off like 

514
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:24,760
the huge game. 
No, that was just two years ago.

515
00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:28,200
But his ADP was like pretty 
frothy last year, I guess 

516
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:33,800
because of the Godwin injury. 
But dude, I mean, he's still got

517
00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:35,480
really third. 
Yeah. 

518
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,800
So I, I I'm kind of in because 
Godwin is a free agent. 

519
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:44,720
They lose Liam Cohen. 
But like, at a certain point, 

520
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,080
isn't Baker like a sort of like 
kind of in a enough of a groove 

521
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:51,680
with this team and these guys? 
I mean, they've got a great 

522
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,840
offensive line. 
I think they're just they're 

523
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,760
just going to run back the same 
personnel. 

524
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:56,880
On didn't it work? 
Yeah. 

525
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:57,840
Didn't it work? 
Yeah. 

526
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:02,760
Yeah. 
So I think Evan's in the late 

527
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:06,040
3rd now feels feels fine. 
Yeah, All right. 

528
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,160
I agree. 
So we're we're relatively 

529
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,880
bullish on him. 
We'll call it that. 

530
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,600
Yeah. 
Who's next, Pat? 

531
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,880
You're next. 
Keenan Allen will be on here. 

532
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,520
Oh yeah, Keenan will be on that 
list. 

533
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:23,400
Maybe, maybe #2 right. 
Oh, guess he's been hurt a lot. 

534
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:30,000
Keenan Allen, 33, underdog ADP 
last year end of round 5 free 

535
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,520
agent What kind of market will 
there be for Keenan Allen? 

536
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:39,240
Maybe pretty good. 
I think could be pretty good 

537
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,600
because there's like a lot of 
teams that could use receiving 

538
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:48,280
help and there's not that many 
good receivers in free agency or

539
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,480
like some of them have injuries 
that they're dealing with, you 

540
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:55,200
know, they're coming off pretty 
serious injuries so. 

541
00:28:55,560 --> 00:29:00,200
Only a good team signs him. 
I guess I mean, if you're the 

542
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:03,120
Patriots though, like wouldn't 
you, wouldn't you see if he's 

543
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,120
down? 
Like there's there's teams that 

544
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,720
I mean, the Patriots kind of 
most obvious one where it's like

545
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,480
they kind of desperately need 
more guys, but like they're 

546
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,280
probably gonna have trouble 
getting those guys to to come to

547
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,400
Boston, you know, like you're 
not winning any like the 

548
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,440
roster's kind of in shambles. 
So I don't know. 

549
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:28,040
I mean, if you're him, you'd 
rather go to like Washington or,

550
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,520
you know, a contender, but I 
don't know. 

551
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,440
I mean, some of these, a young 
quarterback, a team with a young

552
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,040
quarterback might be interested 
as well. 

553
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:45,480
OK, Davis. 
DeAndre Hopkins, Kansas City 

554
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:52,480
Chief DeAndre Hopkins. 
Second Julio Jones all time 

555
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:55,400
yardage. 
You guys straighten me out on 

556
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,920
how little usage he was getting 
in the in the post season. 

557
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,760
So I lost on a couple of overs 
after it was too late this year.

558
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,640
But very small production. 
Does he get? 

559
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:07,560
How does he compare with Keenan 
Allen as a free agent? 

560
00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:11,160
See, I think he's way closer to 
being done because he signed 

561
00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:15,560
with a team that really could 
have used him and they were 

562
00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:17,960
like, you know who has more in 
the tank than you? 

563
00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,920
You just Mischuster has more in 
the tank than you do right now. 

564
00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:23,640
And like, where where's he going
to go? 

565
00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:26,080
That's better than the Kansas 
City Chiefs. 

566
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:27,640
Where, where, where would he 
sign? 

567
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,760
You're like, well, that's 
definitely better than being in 

568
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:33,240
Kansas City. 
No, I think, I think Hopkins is 

569
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:34,440
done. 
Yeah. 

570
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,680
All right. 
He'll probably play one more 

571
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,360
season, but not very much. 
Yeah. 

572
00:30:40,360 --> 00:30:44,520
Do you have any ADP on him or on
these guys as we're talking 

573
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:45,920
about them? 
Yeah, he he's like the wide 

574
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,360
receiver 65. 
So he's going to be something 

575
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:56,920
like 175 ish overall I think. 
Yeah, ADP One 82161, we're like 

576
00:30:56,920 --> 00:31:00,600
a round behind that. 
All right, Pad, who's next? 

577
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Tyree kill. 
Tyree kill, tough one or no? 

578
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:13,000
I think he's AI mean he started 
as one of the best guys on the 

579
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:14,760
board. 
Yeah, I think, I think that 

580
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,520
feels untouched. 
I think he is just going to be 

581
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,520
awesome. 
Where's he going? 

582
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,120
He he was going in the like the 
40s and now he's up to 2025, 

583
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:27,440
1/2. 
All right. 

584
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:30,800
It's kind of crazy how how low 
he started. 

585
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:34,040
Yeah, and. 
You think he stays in Miami? 

586
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:39,400
I do. 
I think he either stays in Miami

587
00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,600
or goes back to Kansas City and 
either is really good. 

588
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,800
I. 
Wonder if Keenan Allen could go 

589
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,840
back to LA? 
That's what he said, Keenan 

590
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Allen said I'm only playing in 
Chicago or LA, but he included 

591
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000
the Rams in that, right? 
So he said, he said I'm only 

592
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,560
playing in Los Angeles or in 
Chicago. 

593
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,520
Show part tight ends on this 
list or is it just? 

594
00:32:00,520 --> 00:32:03,640
Why yes. 
That's that's bad by the way, 

595
00:32:04,360 --> 00:32:08,440
for Allen, if he because what 
like that, that's retirement 

596
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,880
risk potential then if those 
teams don't want him. 

597
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,200
He's not going to retire. 
He might. 

598
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,560
He would. 
He would certainly come back to 

599
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,800
Chicago, I think, over retiring.
OK. 

600
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,200
Travis Kelce, that's. 
My opinion? 

601
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,440
Travis Kelce is tight end. 
What so far? 

602
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:31,000
Tight End 8 He goes right next 
to Mark Andrews, David and Joku.

603
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:33,720
Tyler Warren I don't think I've 
taken him yet. 

604
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:39,400
Maybe I've taken him once. 
I've taken him once, does he 

605
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,840
retire is the question. 
That's The thing is he, the guy 

606
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,840
might literally like be holding 
the Super with the Lombardi 

607
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,440
Trophy and be like, and that's 
it for me. 

608
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:51,800
Or he might do what he did last 
year and say and we're coming 

609
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:56,800
back for number 4. 
Last year it feels like it feels

610
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,120
like last year we were talking 
about that a lot and this year 

611
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,720
not at all. 
I don't know what why 

612
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:03,400
necessarily, but this this year 
is history. 

613
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,720
Three in a row is unprecedented.
So this would be maybe, you 

614
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,960
know, it's one year later too, 
maybe would make more sense. 

615
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:12,760
All right, so Tight End 8 so 
far. 

616
00:33:13,400 --> 00:33:17,720
The the thing with me, with 
Kelsey is that like last year we

617
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:20,840
were in a position where you're 
like, well, if he doesn't 

618
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:24,880
retire, like I'm getting still 
maybe the best tight end of the 

619
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,400
league. 
And and now and now you're 

620
00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,920
you're like, he's going to I 
think he'll play even less on 

621
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,640
offense. 
Let's say he doesn't retire. 

622
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:35,160
Rashi comes back. 
Worthy continues developing. 

623
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:38,920
They get one more outside guy, 
you know, instead of Justin 

624
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,640
Watson, but they have like a 
competent guy. 

625
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,320
Noah Gray is still under 
contract. 

626
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,000
And then you're like, they could
just get away with playing in 

627
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:50,080
60% of the snaps regular season.
Like Jonnu Smith is is a fun, 

628
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:53,960
you know, totally solid pick, 
but like I wouldn't consider him

629
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,160
if I thought he might retire, 
right? 

630
00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:59,480
Like this is sort of the word in
like a new right. 

631
00:33:59,600 --> 00:34:02,000
Like if David and Joko was 
considering retirement, I would 

632
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,160
not be drafting him. 
That's like kind of the new 

633
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,159
thing we're in with Kelsey now. 
So I. 

634
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,360
I are these by the way, are 
these by the way guesses Jonnu 

635
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:13,880
Smith or? 
No, no, no. 

636
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,960
These are these are guys, these 
are guys that Kelsey's kind of 

637
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:20,400
like now, whereas before he was 
like, you know, even last year, 

638
00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,440
even heading into last year, I 
was like, I mean, he just 

639
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,360
carried them Super Bowl. 
Like he can turn it on still. 

640
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:29,639
The Chiefs just won the AFC 
Championship with 32 points 

641
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:32,840
against Buffalo, with Kelsey 
going for two for 19, by the 

642
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,360
way, Yeah, yeah, super, super. 
All right, Pat Devante Adams. 

643
00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:43,480
Devante Adams is correct. 
All the chalk so far under 

644
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,120
contract with The Jets, the if 
they're if it's even qualified 

645
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:52,679
as counting as Buzz, it's the 
Rogers is back, but I don't know

646
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:56,880
what. 
He, Adams basically has a player

647
00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,760
option with The Jets. 
He's he's OK. 

648
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:03,480
I think his cat number is 40 
million or something absurd with

649
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:07,520
like very little dead cat. 
So he gets to decide. 

650
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:12,200
If he takes a pay cut, slash 
signs an extension to spread out

651
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,720
the money. 
You think he's out of there then

652
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,080
maybe. 
He's definitely like when he was

653
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,840
when with the Raiders when they 
were trying to trade for him. 

654
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,080
The Jets were trying to change 
his contract and he refused to 

655
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:30,520
change his contract because he 
basically they can't like keep 

656
00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:34,320
him under this contract. 
It's like he gets to decide if 

657
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:40,440
he's going to sign an extension 
or get cut, which he did 

658
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,440
specifically because he didn't 
know if Rogers was going to 

659
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,280
stick around or not. 
So if Rogers comes back, they'll

660
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,600
work something out and he'll 
stay. 

661
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:51,680
But if Rogers retires the Adams 
is like, I mean he's going to 

662
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:55,120
get like a big bag from The Jets
with a multi year extension or 

663
00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:56,680
much more likely just not be 
there. 

664
00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:03,800
Where's he going? 
I don't know, Buffalo maybe, but

665
00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,560
they, they need, they need 
someone like that. 

666
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,880
Where is he going in drafts? 
Oh, fifth round, 5th wide 

667
00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:15,520
receiver, 32. 
OK, which he was going later. 

668
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:17,840
I I I drafted some of them 
originally. 

669
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:20,480
This feels like a little hotter 
given. 

670
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:25,040
I think I like that. 
You, you're into it. 

671
00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:28,360
I think I like it. 
Wide receiver 32, he's going to 

672
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,920
play somewhere. 
All right, Davis. 

673
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,080
I've got an out, I've got an 
outside one that I'm pretty sure

674
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,600
is on the list. 
Zach Ertz, Washington Commander 

675
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,480
Zach Ertz I'm pretty sure is on 
the list. 

676
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:42,840
Yep, and. 
Well done. 

677
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,200
Yeah, that's my last year. 
We got into Hertz. 

678
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,160
Last year's ADPI believe would 
be the highest of all these 

679
00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:52,400
players at 214. 
Pretty sure about that. 

680
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:55,480
He signs a one year deal and is 
back with the commanders, I 

681
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:55,800
think. 
Yeah. 

682
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:59,040
For I think, I believe, I 
believe he said he's not 

683
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:09,160
retiring. 
He's going 176 with, yeah, I 

684
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:12,800
mean, we've been taking him, but
it's like I kind of want with a 

685
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,640
player like ertz again, I would 
like like confirmation he's back

686
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:20,640
with the Commanders. 
Zach Ertz January 27th made 

687
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:23,920
clear Monday he has no 
intentions of retiring after 

688
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,720
rejuvenating first year in 
Washington. 

689
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,440
I would also like the commanders
have no intentions of not 

690
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,320
bringing him back. 
Oh no, buddy, Cliff Cliff is not

691
00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:34,680
going to let. 
Zachary, walk. 

692
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,640
You're probably right. 
You're probably right. 

693
00:37:37,080 --> 00:37:40,120
Well, that makes him tight end. 
What I mean got to move him way 

694
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:42,400
up obviously. 
But does he does he scratch the 

695
00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,600
top end? 
Tight end tight end 23 right now

696
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:46,640
he's. 
Tight End 23. 

697
00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,160
He's so old. 
I mean, he stayed healthy this 

698
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,320
year is kind of a big, big part 
of it. 

699
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,760
Like I don't want to have. 
Football like if their slot wide

700
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,120
receiver is not Luke McCaffrey 
slash olamide Zakiya slash Luke 

701
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,640
McCaffrey and they have a a 
competent slot wide receiver. 

702
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,600
I mean, he could, he could be 
like a nine percent target share

703
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:06,400
guy. 
Pretty why? 

704
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,720
Why would you not draft Zach 
Ertz at tight end? 

705
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:11,400
23 in every draft? 
That team? 

706
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,600
I mean, he's younger than 
Kelsey. 

707
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:17,280
He's a little bit. 
He's been more fragile. 

708
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:20,200
Though because he's not under 
contract with the team that the 

709
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,280
only team where he would have a 
starting role in the league he's

710
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,800
not under contract is why I'm 
not really taking it right. 

711
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,920
Well I wish I drafted him in 
every team this year, but sure. 

712
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,280
Sure. 
I mean, you know, sonat's 

713
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:35,080
probably nothing, but they did 
just spend a a pick at the 

714
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:36,680
position. 
Well, I think he's probably. 

715
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:42,400
Back but Sonat is John Bates's 
replacement as the H back so 

716
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,720
they got him on the rock and 
they don't. 

717
00:38:43,720 --> 00:38:46,000
They don't have the page on. 
Bates now, so even more proof 

718
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,840
that ertz is back doing the same
thing as long as he stays 

719
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:49,160
healthy. 
Yeah. 

720
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,200
All right. 
I mean, sign me up, Pat, you're 

721
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,400
next. 
What do you like? 

722
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,720
Terry Mclaurin. 
No. 

723
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,800
No. 
Not on the list. 

724
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,960
I I I got one that is. 
That'll be pretty good. 

725
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:07,920
Justin Jefferson is for sure on 
this list. 

726
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:09,440
He's got like 8000 yards 
already. 

727
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,000
Nice. 
Year year year 4 guys. 

728
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:24,000
Wow, he might be good. 
ADP 6.3 last year, is it about? 

729
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,880
It's got to be about the same. 
It'd be better. 

730
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,600
Which I think is like, I'm not 
going to have the stones because

731
00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:31,720
I just got so punished for doing
this last year, but I should 

732
00:39:31,720 --> 00:39:35,160
just do the same thing. 
I should just go run back 25% 

733
00:39:35,240 --> 00:39:39,920
because he's so clearly the best
guy in football that like 1500 

734
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,320
yards and 10 touchdowns was 
disappointing for him. 

735
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:48,600
Yeah, but I I guess I guess 
Chase does have those crazy 

736
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:53,680
spikes. 
Chase is a bad one O 1. 

737
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:58,200
He he really is like. 
It should probably just be 

738
00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,720
Barkley. 
Yeah. 

739
00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,280
Aren't we tired of getting 
buried by this guy? 

740
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,080
I I am. 
I'll give you guys the ages on 

741
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,000
the rest of them. 
Mclaurin is around 6300 I 

742
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,960
believe. 
So a little bit back just 

743
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:14,080
missed. 
There are a couple of guys who 

744
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:17,520
you maybe would think of as 
younger who are who are in the 

745
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,880
top 25 all time receiving yards,
active players. 

746
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,560
Anybody else you guys like? 
Adam Thielen. 

747
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,240
That's a good one. 
Adam Thielen is right. 

748
00:40:28,240 --> 00:40:30,400
Oh, I know, I'm there's there's 
an obvious one we're missing. 

749
00:40:30,920 --> 00:40:32,000
Go ahead. 
Jane Moore. 

750
00:40:32,720 --> 00:40:37,080
Stefan Diggs. 
Oh yeah, I would. 

751
00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:38,640
I would. 
I don't know why I wasn't 

752
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:43,640
thinking Diggs. 
Yep, What's happening with Diggs

753
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:48,240
in drafts? 
Wide receiver 52 he I think is 

754
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,600
is a good a good value. 
Yeah, me too. 

755
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:57,600
He's coming up a torn ACL at 31.
That's and he's a free agent. 

756
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,040
He's probably going to go. 
I, I feel the same way about him

757
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,200
and Hollywood. 
They're they're both, they're 

758
00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,360
both just going to resign, I 
think. 

759
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:07,120
Yeah. 
Houston. 

760
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,320
Yeah, because Houston. 
I mean, if Houston does not 

761
00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:15,800
resign Diggs, the fuck is their 
plan? 

762
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:18,480
You, you're running. 
You're running back. 

763
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:22,520
Robert Woods, Nico Collins and 
John Metchy and Dalton. 

764
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,160
Show well, I mean they, you 
know, they could be like a 

765
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,120
Matthew Golden in the first 
round team. 

766
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:32,120
I just oh, that that is not what
I would do if I just I've fired 

767
00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,240
Bobby Sloak and I've. 
Got I don't think I I don't 

768
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:35,720
think I'd be bringing back 
Diggs. 

769
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:39,040
Diggs was like already kind of 
in a slot receiver era and then 

770
00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:43,480
he tore his ACL. 
Like isn't Diggs now just like 

771
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:49,840
Ravens era Odell Beckham? 
Like with dude I honestly I know

772
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:53,200
ACL is not great. 
I honestly hadn't considered it 

773
00:41:53,240 --> 00:41:55,200
I just cuz he tore his ACL. 
What, like week 8? 

774
00:41:56,440 --> 00:41:59,400
Yeah, yeah. 
You know, the the two last two 

775
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,920
years in Buffalo, it went 
downhill in the second-half into

776
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:05,120
the play offs. 
It's one of the reasons I think 

777
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:06,880
they felt justified making the 
move. 

778
00:42:06,880 --> 00:42:09,400
And then, you know, in Houston 
there were a couple good weeks, 

779
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,280
but it wasn't like the ceiling 
was very high. 

780
00:42:11,840 --> 00:42:15,200
So he's not big, right? 
For a guy receiver getting into 

781
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,680
their 30s, you might wonder if 
he's somebody that might be a. 

782
00:42:18,680 --> 00:42:21,400
Special, but I mean like we 
would already be concerned with 

783
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:24,520
like he's clearly falling off a 
little bit if we're just like 

784
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:26,040
looking at like what he was 
doing. 

785
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,080
He goes to Houston. 
You're like damn, I mean this 

786
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,160
guy's been a number one wide 
receiver for a while. 

787
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,120
Like is he going to challenge 
Nico Collins? 

788
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,000
Nope, not at all. 
Didn't challenge Nico Collins at

789
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,880
all. 
Collins had to be really be out 

790
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,200
for diggs to have like a ton of 
fantasy value and even then he 

791
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:44,360
was like accumulating from the 
slot like this was like this was

792
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,760
this year's version of Cooper 
cup almost that we got from 

793
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,080
Diggs before he toreys ACL. 
So I think I think we. 

794
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:53,200
Convinced me, Karen, I think I 
was. 

795
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,920
I think I was in and now I think
I'm out. 

796
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:56,800
I think I'm going to move him 
down in in the. 

797
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:59,320
Ranks we're we're, we're not 
into it. 

798
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Like if you can tell Amari 
Cooper. 

799
00:43:04,240 --> 00:43:06,160
Amari Cooper. 
He's got to be on here. 

800
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:11,160
There he is, Ben. 
What What happens there again? 

801
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:16,040
Buffalo just it was not much, 
didn't look fast at all, just 

802
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,000
like they didn't lean into him 
after trading for him at all 

803
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:20,960
with the season with so much at 
stake. 

804
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,480
I've been, I doubt he's back 
here. 

805
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,320
No one's told me that. 
But it just didn't work, didn't 

806
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:29,840
work out. 
So maybe Cooper is interesting, 

807
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:31,160
more interesting to someone 
else. 

808
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,120
I've heard that Buffalo's 
interested in bringing him back,

809
00:43:34,120 --> 00:43:38,200
which doesn't make a lot of 
sense to me, but that would that

810
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,840
would be huge for his value if 
he got another run at it. 

811
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,640
Not not real high on my target 
list either though. 

812
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:49,840
Cooper Cup. 
Speaking of of him, he's got to 

813
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,480
be on air. 
Who's trading? 

814
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:52,880
Who's trading for Cooper Cup? 
Where? 

815
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:54,400
Where's Cooper Cup play next 
year? 

816
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:57,400
We talked about that for a 
minute last week. 

817
00:43:57,720 --> 00:44:01,480
Washington seems maybe great, 
but I don't know. 

818
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:04,200
What do you think he has left? 
Here, here's my theory. 

819
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,040
No one, no one's trading for 
Cooper Cup. 

820
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:13,760
Cooper Cup, Yes, the Rams. 
If Cooper Cup gets traded, then 

821
00:44:13,760 --> 00:44:18,280
the Rams are off the hook for a 
big chunk of his salary and 

822
00:44:18,280 --> 00:44:24,480
Cooper Cup has a cap hit of 20, 
basically $30 million rounding 

823
00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,160
up. 
I'm, I'm guessing Cooper cup 

824
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:31,880
would would like to keep, you 
know, a pretty solid salary that

825
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:36,920
he's got 12.5 base, 14.8 base in
2026. 

826
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,440
I I'm guessing he's probably 
happy to keep his current 

827
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,320
contract in place. 
The Rams are happy to have 

828
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,320
someone else take the contract 
off their hands. 

829
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:49,800
So you know, cups saying I'm out
here, I'm going to get traded. 

830
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:51,680
No, you're probably going to get
cut. 

831
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,280
The Rams are are my get. 
I wonder if they asked him to 

832
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,520
take a pay cut and he was like 
no. 

833
00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,120
And they're like, dude, hold on.
We're going to trade. 

834
00:44:59,120 --> 00:45:03,920
What a nasty, nasty fucking 
industry dude that just sucks 

835
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,600
for Cooper Cup. 
Like just like the guy. 

836
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,680
Like they are not. 
They certainly do not win that 

837
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,000
Super Bowl without him. 
I mean, no one has been more 

838
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:16,840
emblematic of the Sean McVay. 
Like I, I would argue that 

839
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,840
Cooper Cup is the reason they 
even had the stones to do the 

840
00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:23,800
trade in the 1st place. 
You know, just like having that 

841
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,960
guy on the roster. 
It's what a just what a cold 

842
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:28,680
world man. 
I really do. 

843
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,280
I really do hate that about. 
There's there's no way Let's 

844
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:35,720
let's just keep this keep this 
in mind when they draft a 

845
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:38,640
running back in the first rounds
and they're like how, how how 

846
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:41,960
could we have known that they 
would turn their backs on Kyron 

847
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:47,920
after what he's done for them? 
Yeah, the I don't know, I think 

848
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,280
Cooper Cup, Cooper Cup is a 
Keenan Allen level. 

849
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,880
And the The thing is, is what 
Cooper Cup does now is so 

850
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,400
valuable for all these NFL teams
because no one can throw the 

851
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,400
ball anymore. 
So just having guys who can get 

852
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,800
open on 7 yard crossers and 
hitches is like. 

853
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,080
Yeah, Cooper Cup is. 
Basically, Kelsey, you know? 

854
00:46:06,440 --> 00:46:10,920
Cole Beasley will Beasley got a 
an all pro vote from Peter King 

855
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,520
with the with doing that, you 
know, a few years ago here so. 

856
00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,040
That would be fun. 
I mean Cooper Cup with with Josh

857
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:17,480
would be fun. 
Is it's the new how? 

858
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:20,800
About Dallas, how about Dallas? 
He he gets, he gets cut. 

859
00:46:21,120 --> 00:46:23,000
They they have like no wide 
receiver too. 

860
00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,040
I think Pat is right. 
I think he does have to get cut.

861
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,520
I mean, I just the the numbers 
on the trade seem pretty make it

862
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:31,880
unlikely, but I don't know. 
We'll see. 

863
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:38,280
I I don't know all three, but I 
know two of the other ones, A.J.

864
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,640
Brown and George Kittle will be 
the other ones. 

865
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,120
I don't know. 
Brandon Cook, someone noted in 

866
00:46:43,120 --> 00:46:44,920
the chat, would likely be on. 
Here, Cooks. 

867
00:46:45,240 --> 00:46:46,840
Cooks is 10th. 
He's on the right. 

868
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:47,920
We left him out. 
He's. 

869
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,280
On the he's on the the non 
active list. 

870
00:46:51,360 --> 00:46:53,320
Well, I don't know. 
I didn't think he was 

871
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:54,400
interested. 
Someone in the chat. 

872
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:56,280
No. 
Who's that? 

873
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:59,120
CD Lamb. 
Nope, want it? 

874
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:02,120
Here it comes. 
Not productive enough I think. 

875
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:03,440
CD. 
Chris Godwin. 

876
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,840
OK, nice. 
We're not a guess of that 

877
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:07,800
either. 
He's an interesting free agent. 

878
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,600
I thought about Godwin and then 
was like might. 

879
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,040
Be, I mean, a couple of big 
injuries, but he was really 

880
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,640
productive before he got hurt. 
Really productive has the ankle 

881
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:22,280
fracture ligament who knows what
exactly went on kind of vibe 

882
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,480
where you you're like the I 
don't know what the floor is 

883
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:32,040
here but I do think someone pays
Chris Godwin on the hopes that 

884
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:38,200
you know I think the. 
Buccaneers just pay him. 

885
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:40,640
I'm drafting. 
The Buccaneers couldn't pay him 

886
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,600
if the Buccaneers. 
The two spots where I I'm like 

887
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,800
pretty bullish are the 
Buccaneers and the Jaguars, 

888
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:51,200
right? 
Because the Jaguars with Liam 

889
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,360
Cohen, you're like, oh, he's 
like basically just going to get

890
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:55,880
installed is what he was last 
year. 

891
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:59,720
And you would guess that Cohen 
has like a pretty good 

892
00:47:59,720 --> 00:48:02,360
understanding of what the injury
is in his recovery timeline and 

893
00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:03,640
stuff. 
And then obviously the Bucks, 

894
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,400
the bucks there's like some 
sentimental value or maybe they 

895
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,480
just like like, you know, like 
are they so bullish on his 

896
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:12,760
recovery or is they just want 
him to be a buck for life? 

897
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,560
But they're still, I mean, they 
have more information than 

898
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:20,000
anyone on on the recovery. 
So if he goes, if he like hits 

899
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,880
the open market and isn't signed
right away, that would be kind 

900
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:28,280
of concerning to me a little bit
from what teams are expecting 

901
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:31,680
from the next year, you know? 
Mclaurin and Lamb are in the 

902
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,920
next 5 names on this list, 
although they're a ways back. 

903
00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:38,400
The next two names on this list 
are Michael Thomas, who 

904
00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:39,840
definitely would have been in 
red. 

905
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,240
Isn't that isn't that crazy? 
Tyler Bullet. 

906
00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:47,000
It's crazy to me that Michael 
Thomas is not on this list, 

907
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:49,800
truly. 
Like, yeah, I would have guessed

908
00:48:49,800 --> 00:48:51,760
off the top of my head. 10,000 
receiving yards. 

909
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,520
Michael Thomas. 
Truly, yeah, deducted he he 

910
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,280
removed slants from the yardage 
total so. 

911
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,560
Yeah, he's, he's 26th. 
Michael Thomas is 26th. 

912
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:03,680
Well, that's. 
Crazy. 

913
00:49:04,720 --> 00:49:07,680
An overview or a thought on just
like the idea of the running 

914
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,480
backs last year with that was 
older receivers here. 

915
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,520
I mean, it's obviously not 
apples to apples, but some 

916
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,360
interesting free agents where 
you might there might be so 

917
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:17,600
cheap. 
I mean, that's one difference, 

918
00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:19,160
isn't it? 
The the running backs I'm 

919
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,680
thinking of, you know, right at 
the end of the second round with

920
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:26,760
Barclay and Henry, those guys 
way more expensive in in terms 

921
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:28,800
of investments. 
A lot of these guys that may or 

922
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,000
may not be done don't know 
landing spot are drafted in 

923
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,440
double digit rounds. 
So, you know, why not? 

924
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:41,760
Yeah, I mean, I, I kind of like 
the Hollywood level guy where 

925
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:44,920
you're like, if I'm going to 
take the chance on a guy, I 

926
00:49:44,920 --> 00:49:47,240
think it might be done. 
At least he's basically free. 

927
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,360
I'm I'm having trouble getting 
excited about like the Amari 

928
00:49:52,360 --> 00:49:57,200
Cooper, Stefan Diggs kind of 
tier of guys. 

929
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:00,920
I have taken some Keenan. 
He he did not seem done to me, 

930
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:07,320
but it's like not that far off. 
What about? 

931
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:09,640
What about A.J. 
Brown for next year? 

932
00:50:09,640 --> 00:50:11,480
Like does it matter if they win 
this game? 

933
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,880
Is he back there? 
I mean, is it all good win or 

934
00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:16,200
lose? 
Brown getting traded would be 

935
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:19,120
huge for him. 
The biggest problem for A.J. 

936
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,120
Brown this season was that 
instead of having the 26 best 

937
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,200
defense in football, the Eagles 
had the best defense in 

938
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,520
football. 
Defense is just not going to be 

939
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:30,480
sticky year over year. 
I I would guess the Eagles are 

940
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,800
going to be closer to league 
average in defense next year. 

941
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:36,200
It's just kind of the kind of 
the way defense works that will 

942
00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:39,360
be is. 
The way it works if you're just 

943
00:50:39,360 --> 00:50:43,920
like constantly drafting the 
best edges in college football. 

944
00:50:43,920 --> 00:50:45,880
They've been they've been 
drafting the best players. 

945
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:48,240
How long, how long? 
How long has Howie Roseman been 

946
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:51,120
the Eagles GM? 
8 years something like. 

947
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:52,040
That, yeah, that sounds about 
right. 

948
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,920
Like they just got lucky. 
I mean, well, one, they got 

949
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:00,200
lucky that that Jalen Carter was
party to a murder so he fell in 

950
00:51:00,200 --> 00:51:03,800
the draft. 
They got lucky that like Zac 

951
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,000
Bond ended up being really good.
But sometimes they'll get wrong 

952
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,760
some. 
Sometimes they'll just guess. 

953
00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,440
And also sometimes a guy will 
get hurt that that can't get 

954
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,560
hurt, right? 
Stealing, stealing this from 

955
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,280
from Mike Giardi from Boston 
Sports Journal. 

956
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:23,040
I talked to him yesterday here 
in Buffalo and he's like Miles 

957
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,640
Garrett in Philadelphia. 
Just sort of Philadelphia makes 

958
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,040
that work. 
They've got their other deals 

959
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,680
with New Orleans going where 
they can accumulate draft picks.

960
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,400
And I don't know, like he wants 
to go to a contender. 

961
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:35,640
There's one. 
Miles Care in Philadelphia. 

962
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:41,440
Oh my God, I I would love if if 
A.J. 

963
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:44,760
Brown got to play. 
He's 28 now, right? 

964
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:47,760
It's kind of going to wind down 
soon ish. 

965
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,480
Not like that it'll be done, but
like this, the dominant era. 

966
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,400
Man, but imagine A.J. 
Brown in his Slant Boy era like 

967
00:51:55,400 --> 00:52:01,000
A.J. 
Brown in his Cooper Cup, not 

968
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,000
adolescence. 
What's the not dotage? 

969
00:52:04,160 --> 00:52:06,200
There's a word like dotage but 
not quite. 

970
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,400
Dotage would have worked but 
it's not exactly what I'm going 

971
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,520
for. 
But but but A.J. 

972
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,800
Brown in his aging gracefully 
period. 

973
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,560
His golden years, his. 
Golden years A.J. 

974
00:52:17,560 --> 00:52:23,080
Brown has 76% of the routes, 70%
of his routes out of the slot 

975
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:29,480
Buddy he he could he could have 
100 catch season with like and 

976
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:33,720
it like Larry Fitzgerald last 
really good year, but A.J. 

977
00:52:33,720 --> 00:52:35,440
Brown doing that instead of 
Larry Fitzgerald. 

978
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,200
Chiefs fandom has broken you. 
We're now you. 

979
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,040
You look at a one of the most 
dominant downfield threats in an

980
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:44,240
in decade and you're like, 
imagine this guy is Juju Smith 

981
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:46,880
Schuster on the Chiefs. 
That's that's real. 

982
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,760
Let me tell you, let me tell 
you, A.J. 

983
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,920
Brown, bad fit Chiefs. 
Actually, they, they would, they

984
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,320
would not be interested in him. 
Too explosive, too, too, too, 

985
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:58,680
too way too good down the field.
They they want their outside guy

986
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:02,200
running like Justin Watson. 
You know, that's kind of what 

987
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:02,560
they. 
Prefer. 

988
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,520
That's true. 
That's true. 

989
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:05,120
Well, they got to kick him into 
the slot, you know. 

990
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:11,000
There they are the top 25 active
leaders in receiving yards all 

991
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,920
time. 
Davis back at the beginning 

992
00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:16,240
before we were talking about 
these guys, you mentioned 

993
00:53:16,240 --> 00:53:18,440
rookies and you, you got to 
Ollie Gordon. 

994
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:20,280
Then we did 20 minutes off of 
that. 

995
00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:22,920
Jack Beck. 
Oh yeah. 

996
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:27,440
Yes. 
So Beck, I've already seen it. 

997
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:31,240
I I've already seen the name of 
Puka Nakua invoked. 

998
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,680
Oh, it's been invoked like it's 
not just once. 

999
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,880
It's it's it's. 
February. 4th And we we have 

1000
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:42,560
already invoked last year. 
I think my favorite guy who got 

1001
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:46,960
compared to to Puka Nakua last 
year was KC Washington, a guy 

1002
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,240
who remained on the Falcons 
practice squad for the entirety 

1003
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,000
of the year. 
That was my my personal favorite

1004
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:54,520
and that was not from a guy. 
On Twitter. 

1005
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:58,320
That was from a Falcons beat 
writer who invoked the name of 

1006
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:04,080
of Pukunikua for KC Washington. 
My actual guess for the the most

1007
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,480
if you if you made me do it on 
February 4th, you held a gun to 

1008
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,400
my head. 
I actually think Arande Gadsen 

1009
00:54:09,720 --> 00:54:16,480
is is most likely to have a a 
Nikuian effect because the if a 

1010
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:22,200
team chooses to value Gadsen, 
who is listed at tight end, it 

1011
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,720
is going to be in a. 
We never want you to block. 

1012
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:29,080
We only want you to run about 
62% of the routes, but you were 

1013
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:32,440
only going to be there to catch 
passes. 

1014
00:54:32,600 --> 00:54:35,720
Beck, I think, sadly is a is a 
bit of a tweener. 

1015
00:54:36,200 --> 00:54:41,120
He was a tight end at LSU and 
then at TCU. 

1016
00:54:41,120 --> 00:54:45,200
He barely played as a junior and
then really broke out in a in a 

1017
00:54:45,240 --> 00:54:49,560
in a real way this final year. 
Nothing's ever gone wrong 

1018
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,680
overvaluing the TCU wide 
receiver for for anyone in the 

1019
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:57,160
fantasy football community. 
Yeah, I, I think, I think, I 

1020
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,240
think it's Besh. 
He's gonna be It's Besh. 

1021
00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:01,640
It's Besh. 
I believe. 

1022
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,520
That's what I've I've most 
consistently heard now because 

1023
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:05,840
I've heard it both ways, but I'm
starting. 

1024
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,560
To hear now we're into the heat,
the meat of the season here. 

1025
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:11,120
Now when we have to figure out 
how names are pronounced and 

1026
00:55:11,120 --> 00:55:14,200
then they'll get drafted and get
into the league and they tell us

1027
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,720
it was actually different than 
their college announcers were 

1028
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:18,800
saying for three years, which 
it's actually is. 

1029
00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,760
It's actually beach. 
I think it is a strategy. 

1030
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:24,440
You know, you're distancing 
self. 

1031
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:26,320
You're almost like trying to 
reinvent yourself. 

1032
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:28,080
I'm going to change the. 
I'm going to be Ligat. 

1033
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:33,160
Ligat actually, yeah, I'm going 
to be a Chan now, even though 

1034
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:34,040
nobody ever. 
Called him. 

1035
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,720
Well now I can't even remember. 
Did he say a chain or a Chan? 

1036
00:55:38,000 --> 00:55:39,400
It was a Chan. 
It was. 

1037
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,920
He was a chain on on go to bro. 
What do we go? 

1038
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:45,360
What do we do it when we don't 
know? 

1039
00:55:45,360 --> 00:55:47,440
We look at go to YouTube, look 
up his college. 

1040
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,160
Highlights. 
You know that was. 

1041
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:53,040
That's what I do. 
I'm actually back in if it's 

1042
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,280
ashenay. 
I'm back in if it's bench, if 

1043
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,920
it's beach, I'm so in. 
I'm so in on beach. 

1044
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,160
I'm in on beach I think. 
He's a guy to take right now. 

1045
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:06,920
Yes, he is. 
He is a guy to hammer right now.

1046
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:13,720
I think honestly, because so I, 
I went, I, I was pretty plugged 

1047
00:56:13,720 --> 00:56:17,160
in on the Senior Bowl reaction 
stuff getting a sense because 

1048
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:22,480
like, here's the thing about the
Senior Bowl, It is a big part of

1049
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,520
the evaluation process for NFL 
teams, including NFL coaches, 

1050
00:56:27,840 --> 00:56:32,520
who may or may not, but often 
may not have watched a ton of 

1051
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:35,880
these guys prior to going to the
Senior Bowl. 

1052
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:40,160
So this is like a first 
impression bowl for a lot of the

1053
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:44,840
NFL coaches. 
So you're getting like the the 

1054
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:48,880
chance for these guys to stand 
out and consistently stand out 

1055
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,160
is going to change draft capital
in some meaningful ways. 

1056
00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:56,120
And then, you know, you go and 
you there's all these guys, 

1057
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:57,680
they're all watching that. 
They're going to get the 

1058
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,560
practice film later and review 
it. 

1059
00:56:59,960 --> 00:57:01,640
They're having conversations, 
right? 

1060
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,160
You're not like seeing every 
single Rep. 

1061
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,960
So some guys you're like, oh, 
this guy was a winner. 

1062
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:08,680
Like I saw like Kyle Williams 
was a winner. 

1063
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,280
And then you check another list 
like Kyle Williams is a loser of

1064
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:15,800
the you know, so some you know, 
it's hard to tell who actually 

1065
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,840
had a good Senior Bowl who just 
flashed to some people with Jack

1066
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,120
Besh. 
There is no ambiguity. 

1067
00:57:22,360 --> 00:57:25,280
The dude had an awesome Senior 
Bowl, and then he catches the 

1068
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,680
game-winning touchdown in the. 
Game. 

1069
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:32,760
Yeah, he just lost his brother 
in that in the New Orleans 

1070
00:57:32,920 --> 00:57:36,120
shooting. 
So there's like there's this 

1071
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:40,760
story of this guy coming in and 
having like the most incredible 

1072
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:44,360
Senior Bowl. 
He after the game is dedicating 

1073
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:48,240
it to his brother. 
It's like this is the story of 

1074
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,920
the offseason right now and it 
is not going unnoticed by the 

1075
00:57:51,920 --> 00:57:55,200
NFL. 
On the NFL Stock Exchange. 

1076
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:58,560
Great podcast. 
They did a two round mock 

1077
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:02,160
following the Senior Bowl. 
He went 37 to the Raiders. 

1078
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:04,440
I think we're we're talking 
about a dude who like 

1079
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:09,840
meaningfully changed his 
perception and, you know, in the

1080
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:13,880
in the actual NFL draft. 
So we just want like now when I 

1081
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,920
look at his profile, if I have 
to take Jack Besh in the 10th or

1082
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,680
11th round, I'm not into. 
That no, no chance, dude. 

1083
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:24,360
If I had to take Jack Besh ahead
of Keenan Allen, I'm out, right?

1084
00:58:24,560 --> 00:58:27,400
So take him now. 
Like we can see which way the 

1085
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,680
wind is blowing here. 
Take him now. 

1086
00:58:31,160 --> 00:58:32,680
Makes sense? 
I agree. 

1087
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:35,960
Yeah, same. 
Same thing with the tight ends 

1088
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,360
right now too. 
Helm, Arroyo, Mason Taylor. 

1089
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,520
These are strict 20th round, 
last round. 

1090
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,680
Take them there because round 14
gunner helm is going to hit 

1091
00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,280
different in a bad way, in like 
the worst possible way. 

1092
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,760
You do not want to be taking 
gunner Helm over Dalton Schultz.

1093
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:54,840
You. 
You really don't. 

1094
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,760
And Gadsden out of Syracuse is 
ranking wise what, Davis like 8 

1095
00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:03,080
or 9 right now Like NFL draft 
wise? 

1096
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:10,040
Yeah, because it's totally I the
beholder situation where like he

1097
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,920
cannot like, for example, he 
would like, could just not be a 

1098
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,520
Ram. 
Like if Gadsden got drafted by 

1099
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:19,680
like the Rams would like, he 
wouldn't even be on their board.

1100
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,120
You know, because he can't do, 
he can't do the multifaceted 

1101
00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:24,920
things. 
He, you know who you know, he'd 

1102
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:27,760
be a great fit. 
He'd be a great Bengal. 

1103
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:30,440
Because the Bengals always have 
about 8 tight ends and they 

1104
00:59:30,440 --> 00:59:32,600
never have any of them do more 
than one thing. 

1105
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:38,200
Like you've got sample Kasiki, 
Erikal and and the one other guy

1106
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:41,760
Hudson, and they all do 
something different. 

1107
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,920
He he'd be a really good Taylor 
Hudson. 

1108
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,120
For them it's good, good for 
Taylor Hudson. 

1109
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,200
Get back to a world where they 
have 7. 

1110
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:53,520
Times, Oh my God, the Colts, 
Colts, Colts are a Colts are a 

1111
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:55,360
lock to take a tight end in this
class. 

1112
00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,520
I think it's it's probably going
to be Tyler Warren. 

1113
00:59:58,000 --> 01:00:02,800
But the the tight end that I 
think is most intriguing coming 

1114
01:00:02,800 --> 01:00:05,760
out of the Senior Bowl is 
actually Mason Taylor. 

1115
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,840
Elijah Royo had the buzziest 
Senior Bowl for for route 

1116
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:12,840
running reasons, and that's 
cool. 

1117
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:18,640
I'm into that too, but Arroyo is
like a little bit more of like, 

1118
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:21,440
I think kind of like a receiver 
playing tight end and didn't 

1119
01:00:21,440 --> 01:00:23,760
have a ton of production and he 
dealt with some injuries. 

1120
01:00:24,040 --> 01:00:26,720
I think he was like later to to 
football. 

1121
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:30,840
And so like kind of an 
intriguing traits guy. 

1122
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,640
But then you have like Harold 
Fannin or I'm like, man, this 

1123
01:00:35,640 --> 01:00:37,040
guy. 
It's kind of the intriguing 

1124
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,360
traits guy, tweener type. 
But it would like a ton of 

1125
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:40,760
production. 
I'm always going to prefer that 

1126
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:45,240
profile, but if you just want 
like a tight end, like a dude 

1127
01:00:45,240 --> 01:00:49,800
who plays tight end and is good 
at blocking and there's no 

1128
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:51,200
issues about like where do you 
line him up? 

1129
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,640
How do you use him? 
He's a tight end. 

1130
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:53,880
You just use him like a tight 
end. 

1131
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,800
Mason Taylor had a really strong
Senior Bowl for people. 

1132
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:00,440
He kind of more quietly, but 
just I think he really impressed

1133
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:02,760
teams. 
I think he'll have solid, you 

1134
01:01:02,760 --> 01:01:09,000
know, day 2 draft capital and we
we actually have above a royal 

1135
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,400
by a decent amount right now and
not too far behind Fannon at 

1136
01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:15,680
this point cause Fannon's like 
if he gets if he's an H back, 

1137
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,120
that's going to really hurt us 
in best. 

1138
01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:19,880
Fannon Fannon won't be an H 
back, but the concern is he like

1139
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,360
might be a six round pick and if
he's a six round pick it's over.

1140
01:01:24,840 --> 01:01:27,600
So, you know, I don't think so. 
He's Jason Morrow. 

1141
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:34,560
So Fannon and Kyle Dvorchek in 
our in a chat was saying like 

1142
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:37,200
there were reports he was moving
like a quote slug. 

1143
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:40,840
It's like that's bad. 
And like some of the early, I 

1144
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:43,400
think day one was not 
impressive. 

1145
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,360
But I went and checked the, the,
the zebra tracking stuff. 

1146
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,440
You know that like you can 
actually see the mph, 4th 

1147
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:55,320
fastest mph by a tight end in 
Senior Bowl history, fourth 

1148
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:59,480
fastest acceleration, like ninth
fastest deceleration, a bunch of

1149
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:02,920
explosive efforts, which is 
where you have acceleration and 

1150
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:06,000
deceleration on the same place. 
So he's, I think clearly like 

1151
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:08,240
the slug allegations were 
overblown. 

1152
01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:10,280
Like he, he was moving. 
He was moving. 

1153
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:14,920
Well, I, I think Fannin there 
was, I was listening to Nate 

1154
01:02:14,920 --> 01:02:17,520
Tice and Dane Bruegler kind of 
breaking it down and they're 

1155
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:21,080
kind of like, I don't know, like
what Fannin is like is he, is he

1156
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:22,760
a tight end? 
Is he kind of someone you just 

1157
01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,400
move around the formation and 
kind of a specialized role, but 

1158
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:28,760
they were like, but there are 
teams who are pretty interested 

1159
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:31,280
in him. 
So I I think Fannon was a. 

1160
01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:35,040
They should be. 
He had fucking 53% of his 

1161
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:37,680
colleges receiving production 
and they were. 

1162
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:40,040
I think they won seven games 
too, so it's not. 

1163
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,840
Like they did it against good 
schools at times. 

1164
01:02:41,840 --> 01:02:44,240
Like they didn't they didn't 
always play good schools, but 

1165
01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:45,640
when they did, he was 
productive. 

1166
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:49,640
So yeah, Fannon I think is some 
like I'm a little cooler on than

1167
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:52,360
I would like to be, but I'm 
still going to draft this dude. 

1168
01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:56,480
It it, it's a he's a, he's a big
receiver with tight end 

1169
01:02:56,480 --> 01:02:58,800
eligibility who was super 
productive in college. 

1170
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,960
Well, I'm in, it's a family name
and he's from a part of the 

1171
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:05,840
world where my grandfather and 
my mom is from, so it might even

1172
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:09,000
be related. 
I'll have to look into that down

1173
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,560
the road, but excited about him 
anyway. 

1174
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:15,800
Thank you guys. 
Davis wins for the blue lights. 

1175
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,200
Pat No Murphy. 
My camera fell apart, so we'll 

1176
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:22,720
try to do better the next week 
for Pat and Davis. 

1177
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:23,880
I'm Mike Schoe, thanks for 
watching. 

1178
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:25,360
ADP Chasing talk to you next 
week.