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Hello everyone and welcome to a 
late May edition of ADP Chasing.

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To be honest, there's not much 
news going on right now, but 

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we'll be still diving in to back
up running back situations to 

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try to uncover this year's Kyra 
Williams. 

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Let's do it. 
ADP chasing is for when you 

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watch ship chasing, you go. 
These guys are just football 

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guys. 
And the targets for outrun 

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leagues, that's going to be 
really nice. 

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Actually back in if it's 
ashenet. 

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Let's hear into our crystal 
ball. close your eyes. 

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You know all your entries are 
going to lose anyway. 

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Yeah, that's fair. 
This is a deuce von show it's. 

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Anti cabal. 
It's anti the best ball thought 

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leader. 
I'm obviously lying to some 

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degree because like, I have a 
lot of both of. 

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These guys, it's the most 
disgusting thing you can make. 

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But man, that intro still still 
gets me every time. 

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It's. 27th time It's still good.
So before the show, Davis, Pat 

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and I were talking about whether
Juju Smith, Schuster or KJ 

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Osborne is more likely to make 
the Patriots. 

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So that's a sign of. 
PJ by a lot, right? 

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Really good Newsweek here in the
NFL. 

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Just just not a lot. 
Not a lot's going on. 

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There's there's not many risers.
There's not many fallers. 

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Any riser or faller is either 
boredom or Leonie. 

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Move the ranks like Leonie. 
Move some guy like if like if 

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Leonie. 
Which is also boredom at this 

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point. 
Like if Leonie adjusted Rashad 

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White's target share with with 
Bucky Irving, like 3%, that 

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would have made it into our 
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Yeah, like it just it just would
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we're at. 
That's right. 

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That's correct. 
Yeah, I mean the one. 

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So to to give a summary of 
today's show, we'll do a very 

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quick risers and fallers, I 
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Now for people watching on 
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The only really newsworthy thing
to discuss, and it's a bit of a 

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stretch to call it newsworthy. 
Zay Jones signed with the 

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Cardinals last week. 
He's up 18 spots now, kind of in

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the 17th, 18th round pick range.
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is down about 10 spots with some
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there. 
Definitely not the sexiest topic

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to hit on to start the show, but
start with you, Davis. 

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Any thoughts on like how are you
playing this Cardinals late 

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round wide receiver situation 
'cause there definitely is room 

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I think, for a third guy to be 
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After Warren. 
Harrison and and McBride. 

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Say you only ever want with 
Kyler. 

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You would never take Kyler or 
you would never take say without

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him. 
Whereas the I mean, I think the 

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positive thing it does is it 
means you can get Dorch at less 

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than 70% drafted, 50% drafted 
and you can get him on round 20 

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on DK, which is huge I think. 
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the tournament closes unless we 
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Yeah, but I mean, Dorch is good.
Zay Jones and Michael Wilson are

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not good at earning targets. 
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always tweets this. 
It's it's like Dorch in games 

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with 65% or more of the routes 
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per game. 
It's it's like when he's on the 

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field, he's on the field to to 
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That's what it's what he does. 
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me. 
Pat, any thoughts on these 

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Cardinals wide receivers? 
Have you? 

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Are you ranking Zay Jones now 
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Yeah, he's like in the final, 
final rounds, like, I don't know

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exactly where we have them, but 
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think. 
I mean, are we sure Marvin 

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Harrison Junior exists? 
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Junior is gonna play? 
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But it is. 
I mean zip. 

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By fanatics. 
Michael Wilson, we have at 188, 

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Zay Jones at two O 1. 
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think is the problem. 
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particularly appealing. 
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if you're, I mean, I don't know,
Dorch, it's tough because like 

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my problem with Dorch is that he
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instead of him and you know. 
Zay Zay Jones now running routes

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instead of him, Probably. 
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So I was pretty excited about 
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like a pretty clear path to all 
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would be out there in all three 
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And now like maybe there's more 
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But I don't know. 
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interesting because it should be
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Michael Wilson on the outside. 
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So that's The thing is that's 
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for dorch and and very quite not
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Jones. 
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kind of fun. 
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against the 49ers. 
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who did not he he was. 
Quinton Johnston? 

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Ask at at. 
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Yeah, I was going to say that. 
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for sure. 
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profile. 
He's like a big outside guy who 

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got there on athleticism. 
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capital. 
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very much driven by the draft 
capital. 

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There really wasn't. 
Much else Ian our our good 

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friend Ian Harnitz did a a 
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like 2 weeks before the draft. 
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like we might have gone too far.
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the season to get here if we're 
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year, Arizona Cardinals 
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from fucking Josh Dobbs. 
Do you think that cause, Ian? 

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I mean, you gotta give credit 
where credit's due. 

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Ian gets a lot of traction on 
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Oh my God, I wish I was Ian 
Ardit's Twitter. 

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Account. 
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that the Cardinals saw that post
and that's why they signed Zay 

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Jones? 
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Possible it wasn't good enough 
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Yeah, yeah. 
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though is right Zay. 
Zay is probably going to start 

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the year playing over Michael 
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I don't. 
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Wilson's a slight favorite to 
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The fact that the fact that the 
Zay Jones contract details still

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aren't out make me think he got 
very little guarantees. 

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I think, you know, it was 
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half million. 
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million or less guaranteed 
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So we'll see on the details. 
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I'm not going to pretend he's an
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I do think like late round Kyler
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He's kind of a like Alec Pierce.
You could see a world where he 

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gives you some half PPR spike 
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couple touchdowns in a week, 
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So I think he's totally. 
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Wilson was a positive advance 
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point week I think against the 
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17th round pick. 
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get that. 
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going to talk about later, is 
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is it? 
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you need from a 17th or 18th 
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Like if if we're taking. 
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Jalen Tolbert vortex, right? 
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stinks, but he's going to play a
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I mean, if Jalen Tolbert in Week
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yards and like in Week 15 gets 
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like one of the picks of the 
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Dude, for real. 
For real. 

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I would be so psyched with that.
Upper Yeah, it's how low the bar

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is. 
I mean that's that's like a fair

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amount of teams that get through
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that's that. 
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I was trying to think through 
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and maybe you can put AT Perry, 
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like these type of wide 
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draftable now because of 
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I was trying to think through 
like how many more of these Zay 

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Jones, what did you call DJ 
Shark last week like the the 

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Dementor? 
The dementor. 

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Yeah, the yeah, the dementor of 
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Like, I think Michael Thomas is 
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that's still out there like 
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Like, I don't know. 
For example, like if if Michael 

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Thomas sides with the Cowboys, 
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Jalen Tolbert. 
Is it, though? 

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Because Michael Thomas will be 
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So that's probably. 
It's probably not. 

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Yeah, I guess that's the point 
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That's like these guys are like 
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like who's left a wide receiver 
that's taking the obviously they

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can just face plant so hard that
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But it's not like there's a ton 
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So that's what you never account
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these AT Perry's and these Jalen
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for them playing so poorly that 
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forgot was on the team is 
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like by the way AT Perry I've 
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because I tweeted the other day 
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leave the draft with with all 
this chapter and and Jalen 

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Tolbert a bunch of people were 
saying AT Perry like I like they

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were kind of unearthing this 
hidden gem or something AT Perry

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played 53% of the New Orleans 
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generated 18 targets. 
Is that? 

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True. 
I just. 

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I I I yes, it is. 
It's true that seems that seems 

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impossible to believe. 
That's so bad. 

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Yeah, he ran. 
Two in eight routes. 

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The reason why people like him 
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touchdowns. 
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when who was playing 
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You basically can't count Jameis
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it's a totally different thing. 
You can't count them. 

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Yeah, so he was basically the 
the Jimmy Graham of wide 

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receivers last year. 
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Except he was playing. 
Except he was. 

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Playing a lot. 
Playing he was out there all the

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time and just never never I I so
AT Perry I I will have a a cool 

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AT Perry on what 70% of teams 
check established the run draft 

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project. 
I mean, I'll just have a cool 0%

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of that. 
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I'm not real into the guy who 
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Raymond. 
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He so OK I was. 
I was hoping you'd be into him. 

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Sam because he's like he's he's 
the kind of like, it's not that 

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exciting, but he's just out 
there he's. 

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Decent. 
He's decent. 

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He finished third, Third in open
score last year, which is kind 

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of nuts, like kind of the thing 
that makes you question of open 

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scores is a good metric to use. 
But but first was Keenan Allen, 

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second with CD Lamb, 4th was 
Tyriq Hill, fifth was Garrett 

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Wilson. 
So like the rest of the guys got

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open. 
So I mean it's a smaller sample 

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for him and that's probably why 
he's this high, but he's pretty 

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solid. 
There's not much target 

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competition outside of, well, I 
guess there's some target, you 

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know, there's decent target 
conferences. 

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That's a bad point. 
Ham and Ross going to draw 

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targets and Sam before he's 
going to draw targets but but 

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Jamo is not going to draw a ton 
of targets consistently, right? 

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Unless. 
He I mean there, there's a 

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pretty clear analog for Raymond,
which is the 2021 season. 

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That was the first Big St. 
Brown season. 119 targets. 

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Saint Brown gets 90. 
Swift gets 6290 receptions, 62 

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receptions for Swift, 61 for 
Hawkinson. 

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The end Hawkinson got hurt that 
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don't remember which one, and 
Khalifa Raymond had 71 targets, 

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48 receptions, 576 yards and 
four touchdowns. 

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You might be looking at like 
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touchdowns do, but the the type 
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in this offense, he's got a 
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those touchdowns come together 
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Off the top of your head, what 
do you what do you think Khalif 

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Raymond's yards per Outrun was 
last year? 

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It was I I had the spreadsheet 
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calculating his career yards per
outrun. 

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So I know the answer. 
It's. 

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It was 2.07 and it was 1.91 the 
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His career, his career is one 
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which is pretty good over a 
sample, a sample of 1250 routes.

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That's like not like a nothing 
sample. 

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Now the problem is he's, you 
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the league. 
So there's obviously no upside 

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here, right? 
Like none. 

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You're not talking yourself into
like a breakout season. 

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No, you're just running. 
You're running back. 

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The Josh Reynolds bet from last 
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good bet and paid off like the 
Josh Reynolds thing, didn't have

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a sexy season. 
I would almost guarantee he was 

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a plus advance rate basketball 
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Got plenty of decent like 15 
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what you're looking for, an 18th
round pick. 

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The the chat by the way they are
animated about AT Perry. 

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Some of the AT Perry people that
follow me on Twitter are in the 

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chat and they're like come on 
bro. 

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It's AT 18 targets on 353 snaps.
I just. 

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I'm a little yeah, I I get the 
downside. 

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I'm a like, I'm a little bit 
more OK with clicking Perry. 

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He's definitely not a guy I'll 
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have some Saints, I don't. 
The thing is literally like look

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at the depth chart and this is 
how you really get into trouble.

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In this is you're you're 
literally doing the exercise we 

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just talked about getting 
yourself in trouble. 

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Yeah, but they did. 
They did. 

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With Perry, second year players 
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This is why Tolbert's making 
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Is that second year players? 
Tolbert is 1/3. 

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Year. 
Oh God, yeah. 

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Well, OK, that's even worse. 
Second and third year players. 

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The team is not like seeing what
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they have. 
Jim Tolbert's been around for 

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two years. 
Like they know exactly what they

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have. 
Like if he's not good, he's 

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going away at the end of the 
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Like they're going to see what 
they have in whatever random 

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sixth round guy and they have 
one. 

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By the way, I forget if I'm for 
mentioned. 

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I'm. 
Flournoy, yeah? 

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Yeah, so Flournoy is going to be
who they're curious about. 

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Have you looked into this 
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He's like. 24 years old. 
So he's so old. 

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He's Yeah, I. 
Don't know what to be. 

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Is he older than Tolber? 
He might. 

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He. 
I think he is, yeah. 

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No, I haven't really looked into
him. 

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Yeah, he's he's not someone. 
That. 

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Is very fun to look into. 
He played college football. 

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He played he played college 
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Missouri Mules. 
The Iowa Western Rivers not 

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Rivers Rivers and Southeast 
Missouri State RedHawks. 

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He's 24 years old. 
So I think, I think probably we 

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can stay safe. 
I I think Turpin probably is 

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more of a threat or you want to 
talk about we'll actually do 

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this We'll we'll do real 
sleepers here on ADP tracing 

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People forget Luke Schoonmacher 
was a second round pick last 

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year for the Cowboys that got 
hurt in mini camp like pretty 

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severely and was not even able 
to practice in training camp. 

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Really, this could be a pretty 
heavy 12 personnel team, and 

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that could explain why they 
didn't invest anything in wide 

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receiver this offseason. 
This this season is just setting

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up to be like how does CD Lamb 
just not end up as the wide 

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receiver one this? 
Season. 

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How does he not? 
How does he not catch 200 

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passes? 
It's just like setting up to be 

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the most insane target hog 
season of all time. 

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Like this competition somehow 
got worse from last year, I 

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think with Gallop leaving and 
cooks. 

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They let gallop go. 
Insane. 

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It's just like such a it's such 
a bad skill core and also Pauler

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didn't have a great year but I 
think we can all say he's a 

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better pass catching weapon than
you know Zeke and Rico Dowdall. 

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It's just like. 
You know, I I'm not going to 

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give I I think Rico's probably 
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He. 
Was pretty bad last year the, 

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you know, I mean, obviously I 
agree CDs to Smash, but Jake 

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Ferguson, right, I mean. 
Who's. 

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Who's got a Who's got a bigger 
Target chair? 

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This is not like I'm, I'm 
serious. 

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Who's got a bigger Target chair 
this year, Jake Ferguson or Sam 

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Laporta? 
Laporta's because because their 

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offence is not egalitarian. 
The the stuff the Cowboys were 

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doing last year was 
Schottenheimer was much more 

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egalitarian, where it's like you
don't even have to be good, like

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like Jake. 
It is. 

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The answer is Laporta. 
But you had to think. 

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You had to think and. 
There's a well, the I thought 

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you were going to say Kincaid, 
and I was ready to say 

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everything that people been 
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Ferguson 2, where it's like, 
yeah. 

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It literally does. 
Yeah, like you'd like. 

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There's just very little else 
for there to go to with the 

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obviously the the upside being 
Jake Ferguson has scored 

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touchdowns ever in his career at
at any level he. 

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He scored touchdowns and he's 
like I was looking at the play 

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action participation rate from 
last year. 

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I wrote an article about this 
last year of like this being an 

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important thing to look at for 
tight ends is why. 

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Partly like Kyle Pitts has been 
a disappointment. 

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Because he's not out there 
around the goal line on play 

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action. 
Because he doesn't block at all 

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and he's terrible at it. 
Ferguson, that was like what he 

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did before he had a role. 
He would come in for 12 stuff 

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and get used to around the goal 
line. 

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I mean, it makes sense why he 
got so many red zone. 

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Targets he He led tight ends and
end zone targets, if not in the 

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end for a large part of the 
season last year, I I guess I 

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haven't looked this off season. 
That stuff. 

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Very variant, but he's a part of
their plan at the goal line. 

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Yeah, yeah, yeah, he is. 
The other thing? 

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Brandon Cooks while we were just
talking about all the Cowboys. 

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He's a guy that like, I think I 
I've had a leak. 

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It's. 
Been a leak in my game. 

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That's a Lord Reeves play. 
I I completely just ignore him 

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like I'd completely ignore. 
Him. 

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I don't think that's a leak 
thing. 

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I think you're drafting well. 
I guess maybe it is. 

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But what I was talking myself 
into is like, sometimes these 

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older veterans I think have this
underpriced downside risk of 

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like, he's just gonna get 
benched. 

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Like, but but who is Brandon 
Cook's gonna get benched for on 

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this Cowboys? 
There there is there is 0 

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benching risk that. 
Yeah, that's the thing. 

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That's not what I'm worried 
about. 

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I'm just doing other stuff. 
I'm taking Marshawn, Lloyd or 

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Tyson. 
I honestly don't even. 

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I don't even know where he's 
going in drafts because I've 

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completely. 
He's wide receiver, 60. 

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The issue is, is I I have Wicks 
ranked ahead of him, so I take 

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Wicks straight up over him and. 
If I have. 

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If I have a Falcon or I have a 
commander, I'm taking Dotson, 

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which I know. 
Obviously Dotson is terrible, 

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but you you want like they want 
to have a commander's player 

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with Daniels. 
It's mostly the running backs, 

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like, I'm taking Zeke, I'm 
taking Dowdle, I'm taking 

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Chardonnay, I'm taking Blake 
Korum, I'm taking Marshawn 

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Lloyd, Jerome Ford. 
Actually, I'd probably take him 

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over Ford, but that's a that's 
like where you get. 

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Yeah, yeah, that's true most of 
the time. 

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Yeah, let's, let's get to, I 
think the heart of today's 

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discussion, the rest of these 
risers and fallers, it's it's 

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kind of pointless to talk 
through. 

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So I think a big thing in 
basketball, and we've talked 

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about this in the show before, 
is obviously identifying who the

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running back twos are on 
different teams. 

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So I went through this exercise 
pretty quickly. 

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It's it's it's definitely not 
perfect. 

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We can debate it here, but I 
went through all the teams in 

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the NFL and categorized their 
back four back fields into four 

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different categories. 
So we have clear RB1RB2 teams. 

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That seems like the Cardinals 
with Connor and Benson, Falcons 

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with Bijan and Algier, etcetera,
where we just clearly know who 

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the running back won and running
back two are. 

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And it's just like kind of no no
contest. 

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Then there's a handful of teams 
I think where the market has 

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some certainty about who the RB2
is, but I think it's at least 

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debatable. 
That's teams like the Bills, the

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box, the Giants, the Broncos and
more. 

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And then there's teams where we 
just absolutely have no idea who

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the RB2 is or it's like almost a
complete toss up. 

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That would be, you know, for 
example there that would be The 

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Jets. 
Is it a band of Canada, Braylon,

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Allen, Isaiah Davis, the Eagles,
Is it Kenny Gainwell? 

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Is it Will Shipley, etcetera. 
And we can debate all these but.

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I wanted to go through this 
exercise just to start thinking 

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through who are the guys, you 
know, the backup running backs 

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that we are confident drafting 
today versus guys that we should

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be monitoring training camp 
news, pre season news, etcetera 

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before we start to pounce. 
And I get, I guess just a little

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bit more context on like why I 
think this is important. 

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I wanted to go through last 
year. 

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These are some examples of 
running backs who are being 

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drafted as the RB2 on their 
teams. 

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This time last year we had 
Rashad Penny on the Eagles 

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complete zero. 
He was not the RB2. 

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Damien Harris on the Bills 
complete zero. 

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He was not the RB2. 
Well, no, no, he was going to 

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be, but he just played so bad 
and then got hurt. 

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OK. 
Yeah, fair enough. 

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But OK. 
I don't know about that one, I 

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think. 
Don't give me a derogatory that.

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That was a that that was a 
derogatory. 

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Fair enough. 
Yeah. 

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I I. 
Think I think he just got 

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straight up beat out by Latavius
Murray, but whatever, a little 

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a. 
Little kind of, a little bit of 

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a little bit of BI think. 
OK then tank, tank, Bixby, you 

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know he was given a chance to 
the RB2. 

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He was just. 
Yeah, he was the RB. 

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He was. 
The information was correct 

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there. 
He just sucked. 

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Yeah, yeah, Zach Evans. 
That was bad. 

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Do spawn, not RB2 Dwayne McBride
in Minnesota over Ty Chandler. 

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Wrong. 
So no again, need to be clear 

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this well. 
I don't know about you guys, but

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I took 0 McBride and was a Ty 
Chandler boy the whole way. 

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I need that. 
These are just purely, yeah, 

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these are just purely how the 
ADP had them ranked at this time

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last year. 
Not saying that was. 

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Like a consensus of opinion, 
bifurcated Doesn't mean that 

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people didn't have the answer, 
though that's that's important 

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to to. 
Yeah that's true Ty Chandler was

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was pretty clearly the answer I 
think. 

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But I I was. 
I was actually not that it on 

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Chandler because I I didn't 
think he was that clear, but not

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because I was in on McBride. 
McBride was was untouchable 

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after the draft. 
Yeah. 

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So I think this list we don't 
need to spend any time on. 

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That's not the point of today's 
discussion. 

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But just so people watching 
along, these are the examples of

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the teams where the depth chart 
is just very clear cut. 

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I don't I I guess like a team 
like Miami. 

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I'll listen to you if you want 
to make an argument that somehow

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Jalen Wright ends up as RB2 over
Mostert. 

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I guess I'll listen to you if 
you want to say AJ Dillon, just 

451
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,280
cause the team so familiar with 
them has a chance. 

452
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:37,240
But I really think those are 
very small, unlikely outcomes. 

453
00:22:37,440 --> 00:22:41,000
These teams are pretty much just
locked in RB1RB2. 

454
00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,400
I would say there's sort of 1/3 
category here. 

455
00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,200
It might be like worth 
considering where there are back

456
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:52,240
fields and I would categorize 
the Dolphins and the Bears like 

457
00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:58,680
this last year where you have 
like just pure uncertainty and 

458
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,400
so you're kind of taking stabs. 
And the Dolphins are still kind 

459
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,760
of like that because we know HN 
is really good, but he's not 

460
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,920
going to be like in a workhorse.
Most of it's really old. 

461
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,840
So you're kind of like just like
I don't know this guy might have

462
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,280
something and and it's a 
backfield where I want that. 

463
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,680
And then the Packers are 
probably kind of like that to an

464
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,840
extent as far as the RB2 goes 
because like maybe you know 

465
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,160
maybe both have some kind of 
role, but obviously with behind 

466
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,120
Jacobs that's that's not really 
one of those situations, but 

467
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,040
there's AI. 
Hear you, yeah. 

468
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:36,400
Yeah, there's kind of a yeah, 
there's like an uncertain. 

469
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:39,600
What I'm trying? 
To say is like the Chiefs last 

470
00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:41,920
year, right, like the Chiefs 
where you have like a McKinnon 

471
00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:44,760
and Aceh, I mean they're 
probably like both end up being 

472
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:46,760
draftable is what I'm trying to 
get to. 

473
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:50,320
I tried to categorize that in 
this this far right corner here,

474
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,120
Karine. 
I didn't want to spend too much 

475
00:23:52,120 --> 00:23:53,880
time in today's show talking 
about it because I think it's a 

476
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:58,640
a a separate debate entirely. 
But I think this year the teams 

477
00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:01,840
that maybe fit that bill are 
like the Chargers, most clearly 

478
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,760
the Browns a little bit because 
of the Nick Chubb injury. 

479
00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,880
Like could he miss the whole 
season and both Donta Foreman 

480
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,880
and Ford are playing. 
So if you wanted to talk me into

481
00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:13,440
putting Miami into that far 
right category, I understand 

482
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,880
where you're coming from. 
It's it's like a Little Mix of 

483
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:20,160
both, I would say probably. 
But yeah, these aren't perfect. 

484
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,800
Categories, I would be tilted if
you put them there, 'cause I 

485
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:26,840
love HM, but like, also they're 
sort of like not in the they're.

486
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:28,400
They're kind of a special case 
in a sense. 

487
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,560
They're a special case. 
Yeah, exactly. 

488
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,960
Yeah. 
Who's the starter isn't the 

489
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:33,440
perfect definition for that 
category. 

490
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,560
It's just kind of like like the 
Chargers, for instance, and we 

491
00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,440
can hit on this a little bit. 
I I think it's OK to take the 

492
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:44,120
risk of a dead roster spot on 
the Chargers with Kamani Vidal 

493
00:24:44,120 --> 00:24:48,600
because the upside is so huge. 
Like Kamani Vidal could be a 

494
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,960
complete 0. 
But I'm OK drafting him. 

495
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,200
Whereas like, I'll give an 
example. 

496
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:56,040
I don't know. 
Like the the the Colts. 

497
00:24:57,000 --> 00:25:00,360
I don't really wanna take a 
complete zero with Evan A Hull 

498
00:25:00,360 --> 00:25:01,960
right now. 
Maybe that's a bad example. 

499
00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,960
There's some upside in the 
Colts. 

500
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,080
I don't know. 
The Raiders is a. 

501
00:25:04,360 --> 00:25:07,520
No, that's I think that's fair. 
Like he might be behind Trey 

502
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,600
sermon like it's possible it's 
kind of crazy. 

503
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,760
I hope not, but it's, I mean you
could be definitely taking a 

504
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,000
zero with Evan Hull. 
And the upside of what you get 

505
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,320
there's is so much less than 
what you get in the charger, so 

506
00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,280
not if. 
Jonathan Taylor twists his knee,

507
00:25:24,360 --> 00:25:28,320
Then Zach Moss was like a league
winner last year, like 3.2 yards

508
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,840
per carrying his way down the 
field. 

509
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,320
That's true. 
I'm not saying there's no upside

510
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,920
there. 
I'm just saying without 

511
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:38,640
injuries, your best case 
scenario is getting the RV 2 on 

512
00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,120
the Colts, whereas on the 
Chargers you can literally bank 

513
00:25:41,120 --> 00:25:44,920
the starting running back. 
Let's start here with Buffalo. 

514
00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:50,320
So Ray Davis is now being 
drafted pretty aggressively. 

515
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,000
What do you guys think, starting
with the Ukraine? 

516
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:57,840
Do you think that there's 
decent, odd, like high enough 

517
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,120
odds he's going to win this role
that you feel comfortable taking

518
00:26:00,120 --> 00:26:04,200
him at at 1:57? 
He's not like a priority for me,

519
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,880
but yeah, I think he's going to,
I think he's going to be the 

520
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:11,720
RB2, Ray Davis. 
The appeal of Ray Davis, I think

521
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:15,080
in fantasy and real life is that
he's like ready to go. 

522
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,240
You know, he's a really old guy.
He's, you know, he's versatile. 

523
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:21,640
He doesn't add like a ton of 
explosiveness, but he's sort of,

524
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,560
I mean Devin, Singletary esque, 
you know, you put you put him 

525
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,480
out there, you kind of let him 
do his thing. 

526
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,080
I think that's like if you're if
you're drafting like Ray Davis 

527
00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:34,240
to develop him for a year, what 
are you doing? 

528
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:36,120
You know just get him out there 
if you're if you're going to 

529
00:26:36,120 --> 00:26:38,200
draft them. 
So I would be a little bit 

530
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:44,680
surprised if you know he's not 
the RB2 and then I do think with

531
00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:47,600
some, with the rookies who have 
like some draft capital behind 

532
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:53,240
them you don't like they don't 
have to be the clear RV 2 to 

533
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,080
ultimately provide some value 
this season. 

534
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,200
I I think the rookies give us a 
little bit more. 

535
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,960
They give us another out of them
earning role or earning a role 

536
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:06,200
as the season progresses. 
James Cook, I like a lot, but 

537
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:09,960
he's not going to be like you 
know an 8090% snap share guy. 

538
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,400
So there should be someone 
rotating in. 

539
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,760
Maybe that person changes down 
the stretch and it's Ray Davis. 

540
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,440
Even if it's in a bad, in a bad 
outcome for him. 

541
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:19,640
That makes sense. 
Davis, what are your thoughts? 

542
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,920
Ray Davis is going to score 11 
touchdowns this year, and 

543
00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:26,800
there's just not really much 
than anyone could do about it. 

544
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:31,600
It's sort of my thought, I just 
like what what would have to go 

545
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,040
through your mind as AGM to 
draft a running back who's older

546
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,000
than your starter? 
Did we do the math? 

547
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,160
It's like he's like 3 months 
younger than James Cook, I 

548
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:41,480
think. 
But they're they're the same 

549
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,880
age. 
You draft this guy and your 

550
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:48,760
thought process is, Nah, we'll 
just set him, hang out on the 

551
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,640
bench or whatever. 
What they did was they said what

552
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,240
Latavius Murray brought. 
We liked that, but we wanted in 

553
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:58,440
a slightly younger package. 
Not too much younger, but just 

554
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,240
slightly younger. 
And that is that is Ray Davis. 

555
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,320
Ray Davis caught passes at 
Kentucky. 

556
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,720
He's a fine pass blocker. 
He's big. 

557
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:08,000
He's strong. 
He like he. 

558
00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:12,000
I think he had about 900 touches
his final season at Kentucky. 

559
00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:14,600
I I believe he got 30 touches 
against Georgia. 

560
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:17,400
Like they just like. 
It's just very clear what he 

561
00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,200
brings to. 
He's better than Damien Harris, 

562
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,000
right? 
They signed Damien Harris. 

563
00:28:21,120 --> 00:28:23,640
It doesn't work out. 
They turn it over to Latavius 

564
00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,280
Murray. 
They're freaking given Ty 

565
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:28,240
Johnson goal line touches 
because they don't trust James 

566
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,040
Cook down there like Ray Davis 
is scoring touchdowns. 

567
00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:34,080
I don't know him passes he'll 
catch, but he's scoring 

568
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:38,960
touchdowns. 
My slight pushback on Davis is 

569
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,200
it's not actually I I think he's
going to win this RBQ job, 

570
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,600
especially as you said, Crane 
down the stretch. 

571
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,680
And I also think that the role 
has a decent chance of being 

572
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,440
good. 
It's just that for me, where 

573
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:56,360
he's priced now like Tyler 
Algiers, goes 6 picks later. 

574
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,520
I kind of feel like Ray, like a 
ceiling comp for Ray Davis might

575
00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,160
be like Tyler Algiers. 
So it's a little bit of the 

576
00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:06,400
Family Guy like boat meme. 
I feel like I can just get a 

577
00:29:06,400 --> 00:29:10,200
locked in running back too on a 
good team, on a team that 

578
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,040
doesn't have Josh Allen stealing
goal line work. 

579
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,640
So that's it for me like. 
And also Antonio Gibson, a 

580
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:18,840
little bit of a different story 
there, but I just feel like 

581
00:29:18,840 --> 00:29:21,920
there's these really locked in 
RB twos, if that makes sense, 

582
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:24,640
that go after Davis. 
So it feels. 

583
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,040
There's like. 
Algiers, one of the best picks 

584
00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:29,080
on the board. 
I mean. 

585
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,600
He's a he's locked in. 
I mean, this dude is absolutely 

586
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:34,040
locked in. 
I don't understand. 

587
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,240
He should be in the one 40s. 
He's 26. 

588
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:37,840
Enterprise. 
I don't get it. 

589
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:40,960
But yeah, I mean, that's a good 
thing. 

590
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:42,880
Like to me, that's more about 
Algiers than Davis. 

591
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,600
Exactly. 
Like, I don't think Davis is a 

592
00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,520
bad pick, but for me, like, I I 
just probably it's gonna be 

593
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,280
really hard for me to click Ray 
Davis over Algiers. 

594
00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,800
So that's that's my one hang up 
there. 

595
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:58,880
I also did want to look at. 
So I looked at I I think a lot 

596
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,760
of these guys, the discussion 
comes down to like how a lot of 

597
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,640
these guys are rookies like 
fourth round, fifth round picks.

598
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,240
So I think a lot of the 
discussion comes down to like 

599
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,520
how likely is it that a day 
three running back makes an 

600
00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,240
impact as a rookie. 
So I looked at this 

601
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:19,080
historically, quickly, and I 
just looked at running backs 

602
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,000
since 2017 in the third round, 
fourth round and 5th round. 

603
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,200
This first slide here is the 
third round and I just counted 

604
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,400
how many of them historically 
were just absolute zeros as 

605
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,920
rookies. 
And so for third round running 

606
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:40,960
backs since 2017, about 40% of 
them were zeros as rookies. 

607
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,200
That was last year. 
Guys like Kendra and Tank, the 

608
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:49,760
49ers, TDP, Trey, Sermon, combo,
Damien Harris was kind of red 

609
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,320
shirted as a rookie. 
So guys like that that just 

610
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:54,840
didn't make an impact. 
Once you go to to fourth round 

611
00:30:55,320 --> 00:31:00,080
things get slightly worse. 
About 50% of them were zeros as 

612
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,760
rookies and then once you go to 
fifth round it gets even uglier 

613
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,960
like 70% of them were zeros as 
rookies And and I define zeros 

614
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,880
like a little bit based on feel 
but it was guys that you know 

615
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:16,200
had less than 30 carries as 
rookies like I I I defined non 

616
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,560
zeros pretty generously like for
for instance think. 

617
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:20,960
So, 'cause Aaron Jones didn't 
really do much as a as a rookie.

618
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:25,280
Like exactly like. 
Like the guys who are 

619
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,360
highlighted as non zeros are not
necessarily hits. 

620
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:31,120
They just got like some playing 
time as a rookies. 

621
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,880
The guys highlighted in red are 
like stone, like absolute zeros 

622
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,240
like this. 
This analysis counted like Josh 

623
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:40,520
Kelly's rookie season as a hit, 
so it's a pretty like generous 

624
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,600
analysis, just 'cause he was the
backup, got a handful of carries

625
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:45,320
like he was. 
Kind of. 

626
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:47,640
Benny Snell's a hit, I think. 
I think you're being generous. 

627
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:49,680
Yeah, very, very. 
Bryce Love. 

628
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,560
Remember Bryce love. 
God do I remember. 

629
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,680
Sean Segal loved. 
Bryce Love and. 

630
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,280
That was he loved Benny Snell 
too. 

631
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,960
He loved Benny Snell as well. 
Yeah, so so zooming back out, my

632
00:31:59,960 --> 00:32:02,880
my point is just that these 
guys, I think we're in peak 

633
00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:04,960
rookie hype season. 
It's important to remember like 

634
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:08,680
the base rate expectations for 
like a random draw fourth round 

635
00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:11,360
rookie. 
Like they're pretty fucking 

636
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:15,240
terrible Now if a. 
Well, hang on, hang on, hang on,

637
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,880
hang on. 
But when they hit, look at some 

638
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:20,360
of the hits on there. 
Some of the hits are massive. 

639
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,400
Yeah, yeah, like Benny Snell and
yeah. 

640
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,480
No heroine. 
Heroine was, unironically, a 

641
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:29,920
hit. 
He was good as a rookie. 

642
00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Yeah. 
You're getting a bit. 

643
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:33,240
Yeah, go ahead. 
Go ahead. 

644
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:33,960
Grand. 
No. 

645
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,840
I mean like well, obviously 
Michael Carter was kind of it 

646
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:38,800
was he was drafted, it was 
priced in. 

647
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:40,720
Damien Pierce. 
By the very end it was priced 

648
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,280
in, but early on it was not from
Andre though. 

649
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,240
I mean that was that was a very 
well priced big hit. 

650
00:32:47,240 --> 00:32:50,440
Terry Cohen was kind of a you 
know, pure pass catching PPR 

651
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,880
guy, but that was a pretty big 
hit his rookie season. 

652
00:32:54,160 --> 00:32:56,160
I can't remember when Chase 
Edmonds came on, but like some 

653
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,080
of these dudes like Marlon Mack 
I think was a pretty damn big 

654
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,080
hit when when in his rookie 
season. 

655
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:05,360
So you are getting, I think, you
know, you're swinging for the 

656
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,760
fences a little bit. 
And so maybe maybe the point 

657
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,320
would be like, are you swinging 
for the fences with Ray Davis? 

658
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,840
Is he really? 
I mean, but to Davis's point, he

659
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120
scored a bunch of touchdowns. 
So maybe, maybe he's a swing for

660
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:20,480
the fences. 
But yeah, I mean that's that's 

661
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,520
what you're doing. 
You're swinging for the fences. 

662
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,960
You're much, much more likely to
take a zero with one some of 

663
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:27,960
these dudes, because they might 
suck, but they might be, they 

664
00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:29,600
might be really good too. 
That's, that's the appeal. 

665
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,520
We don't know. 
Exactly, yeah. 

666
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,040
We just don't know and and a lot
and Gretchen's made this point 

667
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,040
too. 
A lot of these running backs got

668
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,680
uniquely good landing spots. 
So I'm not saying like the base 

669
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,720
rate expectations that's just 
like general grounding for this 

670
00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,600
conversation. 
I'm not saying Ray Davis has 

671
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,280
like a 70% chance of being a 
boss just cause of where he was 

672
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,800
drafted. 
I just think it's important to 

673
00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:54,640
remember when we get 
overconfident and back to the 

674
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Tyler Algier Antonio Gibson 
thing like once these day three 

675
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:00,120
rookies like are priced above 
those guys. 

676
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:03,480
I'm just gonna probably say, hey
guys, I I think I'm just out. 

677
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,400
I'm just gonna take the guys 
that I know have the role. 

678
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:12,520
So, but yeah, let's let's move 
on to talking about Bucky 

679
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,960
Irving. 
I think this one is interesting 

680
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:16,920
because I think you can make the
case that he could even get a 

681
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,800
bigger, like, starting role 
potentially by the end of the 

682
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,760
season. 
How much should we believe that 

683
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,679
case of Bucky Irving? 
Like, completely overtaking 

684
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:30,920
Rashad White? 
Well, I mean, do you want to 

685
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:32,840
dust off the Rashad White takes 
from last year? 

686
00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,080
Yeah, it's just the issue is 
Rashad White is is so 

687
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:41,960
replacement level that like they
tried everything to try and you 

688
00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:44,600
know, get him off the field and 
none of it worked. 

689
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:48,000
And there's also like, you know 
how much of wanting the same 

690
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,760
running back on the field all 
the time was Canalis, Canalis 

691
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,520
being like, yeah, I just want 
this dude out there 85% of the 

692
00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,639
time or whatever. 
It's like that. 

693
00:34:55,639 --> 00:34:57,480
That's probably unknowable right
now. 

694
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,280
No, I don't know if that means 
Sean Tucker is a draftable. 

695
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,160
I don't know if that means Bucky
Irving is draftable. 

696
00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,480
I don't know if that means 
Edmonds is going to play this 

697
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,800
year. 
I mean, probably not, But I 

698
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,440
probably means Irving is 
draftable. 

699
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:12,680
Really. 
I think, I think. 

700
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,480
I think it's Draftable. 
I think it's very draftable. 

701
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,640
I think he's very draftable. 
Like the thing with Irving is 

702
00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:23,720
that he was, so he bombed the 
athleticism stuff, but he was a 

703
00:35:23,720 --> 00:35:25,560
good running back. 
He's. 

704
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,600
Very good. 
Yeah, like a college player. 

705
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,160
He was very good. 
And then he, he gets some draft 

706
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:37,600
capital and he lands in a 
pristine spot for just kind of 

707
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:42,440
doing your job as a rusher 
shining through like, Oh my God,

708
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:43,400
this guy's hitting the right 
holes. 

709
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:46,160
He's doing every play we call, 
like, he does it exactly like we

710
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:47,800
say. 
We're like Rashad White. 

711
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,720
You cannot, you cannot rely on 
this guy on the ground. 

712
00:35:50,720 --> 00:35:56,320
He had a -. 110 rush yards over 
expected lowest in the entire 

713
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,200
NFL. 
Worse than Jamal Williams. 

714
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,440
Worse than the Kareem Hunt last 
year, Worse than AMA Kamara. 

715
00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:04,200
It it was bad. 
He had a 37% success rate. 

716
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,680
That's also bad. 
He hasn't been good as a runner.

717
00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,480
He's a pretty solid receiver. 
But I mean, there's like a real 

718
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:14,800
path to Bucky Irving just being 
like the the leap. 

719
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,760
Like, I know it's not a perfect 
example, but like he could be 

720
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,640
the Brian Robinson to Rashad's 
White's Antonio Gibson. 

721
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,320
Yeah, that's it's not a it's not
a one to one. 

722
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,400
It's not a one to one. 
But yes, yeah, it it is very 

723
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:31,400
like. 
That different types of players 

724
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,040
like Robinson's more like a true
kind of early down guy. 

725
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:38,560
But I think even more than 
Gibson, White is just like the 

726
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,360
door. 
Like he's left the door wide 

727
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,720
open for someone to come in and 
take this early down role. 

728
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,760
Yeah, and. 
I made this point a couple weeks

729
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,720
ago, but again, the Rashad White
thing, it worked out last year. 

730
00:36:49,720 --> 00:36:53,280
But I I honestly do think the 
Bucks were actively trying to 

731
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,080
find a better running back on 
their roster to take some of 

732
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,760
White's work away and they just 
couldn't do it because Chase 

733
00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,480
Edmonds, Sean Tucker. 
These guys were so bad. 

734
00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:04,920
So I think they're going to the 
season thinking we need to some.

735
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,400
We need someone to take some of 
the work off Rashad White's 

736
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,200
plate. 
Maybe Bucky Irving sucks so much

737
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:14,040
that he can't, but I would bet 
on him carving out some kind of 

738
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,360
role in this backfield in most 
in most scenarios. 

739
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:23,840
Rashad Rashad Roy as a rookie 
had a 34% success rate, -30 rush

740
00:37:23,840 --> 00:37:27,600
yards over expected. 
That was just above AJ Dillon, 

741
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:29,520
actually slightly worse than 
Antonio Gibson. 

742
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaking of him, worse than 
Dalvin Cook and kind of his 

743
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:37,040
final season of relevance. 
I mean, he's yet to show 

744
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,840
anything as a runner this this 
would also be kind of like on 

745
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,080
track for them to be like, all 
right, let's let's try something

746
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,440
else out. 
Yeah. 

747
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:47,880
Fading Rashad White tears in a 
row. 

748
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:51,000
What can go wrong. 
Let's let's talk here about 

749
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:57,040
about Denver Javante Williams. 
Here's the starter running back 

750
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:58,880
to it's kind of a mess here in 
Denver. 

751
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:03,280
There's a bunch of guys Julian 
McLaughlin So Samadre P Ryan P 

752
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,600
Ryan Audrick estimate I'm taking
Jaleel McLaughlin. 

753
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,560
It's just kind of a weird 
scenario I don't. 

754
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:15,240
I'm I'm windmilling Jaleel at 
this price because it's going to

755
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:18,320
be August 12th and Jaleel 
McLaughlin is going to be going 

756
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:20,720
off the board as running back 39
in the 11th round. 

757
00:38:20,720 --> 00:38:23,120
It's going to be a total shark 
jump situation. 

758
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,280
Yeah, I could definitely see 
that. 

759
00:38:26,280 --> 00:38:30,480
And I I was taking a lot of him,
like 20 picks higher than this 

760
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:36,040
in the big board, but they 
haven't cut P rein. 

761
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,760
I guess they still probably 
will, but I would really like 

762
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:43,960
them to if I'm drafting. 
Julie Well, well, what's going 

763
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,360
to happen is Max one of estimate
or P Rein makes the roster and 

764
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,360
they're just going to see if 
estimate is any good. 

765
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:55,320
Yeah, but I if I I'm drafting 
McLaughlin, I really want it to 

766
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:58,720
be estimate. 
Who makes it estimate is kind of

767
00:38:58,720 --> 00:39:02,040
more like the Javante dude. 
Like he's he's an early down 

768
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,640
grinder. 
Like even even if he's really 

769
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:06,120
good, he's just like a A2 down 
Pounder type. 

770
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:10,160
I think it would just be helpful
to think of Jaleel as Pierre 

771
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,960
Thomas where he can't be 
replaced regardless of who the 

772
00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:14,360
other running backs on the 
Pierre. 

773
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,760
I mean go through and look at 
the other running backs that 

774
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:19,280
Pierre Thomas had good fantasy 
seasons with. 

775
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:23,080
It's like every shape inside, 
you know, Mark Ingram, Darren 

776
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,960
Sproles, like it just, it just 
did not matter who was in a 

777
00:39:25,960 --> 00:39:29,600
backfield with Pierre Thomas. 
He would always get his numbers.

778
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:32,200
I I could definitely see that 
but I mean he had he's not as 

779
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,320
established and they also 
drafted this or they signed this

780
00:39:35,320 --> 00:39:38,680
Blake Watson and they were 
talking about him in a similar 

781
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:42,920
role to Jaleel. 
I think they would be like 

782
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:49,920
directly competing And then P 
Rein was running back 4IN 

783
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:52,560
receiver rating last year and I 
believe he led all running backs

784
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:55,440
and yards for outrun. 
So that's like. 

785
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,160
Yeah, we know exactly who P Rein
is. 

786
00:39:58,000 --> 00:39:59,960
I know. 
But like, I don't want him 

787
00:39:59,960 --> 00:40:03,160
involved. 
Like Jaleel's path to like 

788
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:07,480
really winning me Weeks is as a 
receiver, like give me estimate,

789
00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:09,640
not P Ron. 
I think that just makes him so 

790
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,280
much more appealing if it's if 
it's a three man committee of 

791
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:18,280
Williams, P Rein and McLaughlin,
P Rein is big enough to get goal

792
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,640
line work. 
And I mean, he's actually like 

793
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:23,800
really big and he's a good 
receiver, so. 

794
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,000
That's where, I mean, honestly, 
if P Ryan doesn't get cut, I'm 

795
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,200
kind of into P Ryan. 
He he's. 

796
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:33,160
He gives you, he touches. 
Denver just needs to get on the 

797
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,480
phone with Jerry Jones and say, 
hey, hey Jerry, we'll give you 

798
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,800
some Ajay P Ryan for a future 
second round pick. 

799
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,880
How does that sound, buddy? 
And that solves all of our 

800
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,160
problems. 
Not my Rico Dowdell problems 

801
00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,000
that that would give you a whole
bunch to do. 

802
00:40:45,280 --> 00:40:49,800
I got a bag of Dowdell man. 
I mean, I think P Ryan gets cut 

803
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:51,920
pretty. 
I think he gets. 

804
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,480
I think he gets cut. 
It's just it would be so weird 

805
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:59,440
to draft estimate and then P Ron
is. 

806
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:02,760
It such a big fifth round. 
Yeah, they don't have that many.

807
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:05,160
It's not that it's not that 
weird to take a fifth round. 

808
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,080
Yeah Sam, you just showed that 
chart. 

809
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,800
Like couldn't you practice 
squad, estimate practice squad. 

810
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,040
I mean Blake Watson, you tell 
see you next year most likely 

811
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,440
and then and estimates on the 
practice squad and you roll out 

812
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,920
with the same three you had last
year that seems is that not the 

813
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,160
most likely scenario. 
Yeah, I I just think like 

814
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:28,280
Samadre Piran's cap number this 
year is $5,000,000 like that 

815
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,440
just seems insane to me that 
they're willing to pay that 

816
00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,080
that. 
Is insane. 

817
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,600
When they have all this. 
Depth and how is that? 

818
00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:38,160
That's great. 
Yeah, I I I'm lying a little 

819
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:39,440
bit. 
It's four and a half million 

820
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:41,760
but. 
Still that's you round it up, 

821
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:46,400
we'll we'll accept rounding. 
I round it up but like that's so

822
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,320
much to pay a running back these
days. 

823
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:52,000
I I just don't like you're 
you're paying him that much to 

824
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:55,120
be like a rotational like 20% 
snap they can. 

825
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:56,880
Save 3,000,000 by cutting and 
it. 

826
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,840
Looks like, yeah, that's that's 
a kind of a lot of money for a 

827
00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,600
running back so I don't know. 
It's definitely, I agree with 

828
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:07,600
Ukraine though, it's definitely 
a lot more fun to pick Jalil if 

829
00:42:07,720 --> 00:42:09,920
if 'cause if P Ron's out of 
there, then you can see a path 

830
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:14,000
to just like A2 back backfield. 
I think if P Ron's still on the 

831
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,200
team, he's gonna rotate in, it's
just gonna be annoying. 

832
00:42:17,720 --> 00:42:19,840
So. 
I'm still taking Julio. 

833
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,480
Like I have him ranked, like 
exactly with ADPI. 

834
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,600
Do take him sometimes, but it's 
just like he was a guy. 

835
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,880
I was really, I was excited 
about him. 

836
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,840
I was excited to be excited 
about Julio McLaughlin. 

837
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,960
And it's just like, I want to 
see the clear runway. 

838
00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,920
Clear the fucking runway and 
I'll get excited. 

839
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:37,520
Think about the game we're 
playing, OK? 

840
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,560
You got to think about it more 
like a like in a game theory 

841
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:45,840
sense of like what are the odds 
that P Ryan is on the Broncos 

842
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:49,520
roster in Week 1? 
Definitely. 

843
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:52,800
I think lower than what? 
See. 

844
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,440
I don't think it is I I I. 
Put it at like 30%. 

845
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:56,680
I put it like 30. 
Percent. 

846
00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:59,440
So like, so. 
OK, so give it 30%. 

847
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:01,600
Then give it. 
What are the odds that he stays 

848
00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,960
healthy for 17 games? 
Then give it the odds that 

849
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,080
Javonte Williams stays healthy 
for 17 games. 

850
00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,160
Then give it the odds that Sean 
Payton just for whatever reason,

851
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:12,760
loves this Julio McLaughlin kid.
Which he pretty clearly does 

852
00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:16,560
because he was playing him over 
Javonte like early on when no 

853
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,560
one even knew who he was. 
Remember, he's Week 1 or Week 

854
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,240
Two. 
He scored the. 

855
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:22,040
Goal. 
I had to learn what his name was

856
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,480
week one. 
I had no idea who he was. 

857
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:28,080
So I think you do all of that 
math and you're like, well, we 

858
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:32,360
know that Beau Nix is going to 
throw like 210 targets to the 

859
00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,040
running backs this upcoming 
season. 

860
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:38,800
And you can get this guy after 
like special teams, wide 

861
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,840
receivers. 
You know, like he's going after 

862
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,400
Rashad Bateman. 
Like, you know, like. 

863
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:48,640
I just think. 
I mean, we say this all the time

864
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:50,240
on this show. 
We say we always think the 

865
00:43:50,240 --> 00:43:52,760
market is going to count 
something and then the thing 

866
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:56,960
actually happens and then 
they're so surprised they freak 

867
00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:58,200
out. 
They're like, what do you mean? 

868
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,480
Kirk Cousins is a Falcon 
Impossible, you know. 

869
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:03,960
What do you mean, Justin? 
He was a Viking before. 

870
00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:06,960
Justin Fields is the 
quarterback, 28 now. 

871
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,400
He got traded, I think. 
Jaleel. 

872
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,680
Jaleel, I mean, I'll tell you 
this, if we're if, if he got, if

873
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:14,960
we get off this show. 
P Ryan gets cut. 

874
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:19,080
We do this show next week. 
Jaleel is the number one riser 

875
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:21,000
number. 
Not like like 100%. 

876
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,320
He's up like 30 spots. 
Yeah. 

877
00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:26,400
So it's a funny thing like 
especially doing rankings and 

878
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,000
everything. 
Like I've been in on Jaleel all 

879
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,560
offseason, but I got, I just 
like when you're just like 

880
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:37,720
clicking this dude a lot, you're
kind of like, can this get a 

881
00:44:37,720 --> 00:44:40,400
little clearer? 
Can this get a little clearer? 

882
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:42,680
But you're right. 
I think that I don't want to 

883
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:43,800
lose. 
I don't want to lose my nerve 

884
00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:45,400
here on on Jaleel. 
He's a good pick. 

885
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:48,600
Well, the the important point is
that I don't think there's any 

886
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:51,560
scenario where you're taking a 
zero where there are some guys 

887
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,920
you're taking around him who are
definite 0 possibilities. 

888
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,320
So I think that helps that. 
I I think that makes me feel 

889
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:02,080
more comfortable like you might 
be taking Keaton Mitchell and he

890
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:03,960
might just be a zero. 
I mean he just might not play 

891
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,000
right. 
He could get beat out by 

892
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,160
Rasheeda Ali and he could be 
worse than we think. 

893
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,800
Bucky Irving could get beat out 
by Sean Tuck like whatever, 

894
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:12,320
whatever. 
But there's really no non injury

895
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,160
scenario I think where Jalil is 
a 0. 

896
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,960
Yeah, he had a role last year. 
He was good at it. 

897
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,680
It would be weird if they if he 
didn't at least retain the the 

898
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:21,920
role he had last year. 
It would be very. 

899
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:23,520
Weird. 
I mean, it would be weird, but 

900
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:26,360
at the same time, he's a UDFA 
and then they just took another 

901
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:29,200
UDFA and they're like, this guy 
does the exact same thing as 

902
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,560
this other guy. 
You're really voicing me with my

903
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,360
own petard, which always with 
these running backs to be like 

904
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:36,280
the team doesn't give a shit 
about him, yeah? 

905
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:39,720
Yeah, we're trying to apply 
logic to to what Sean Payton, 

906
00:45:39,720 --> 00:45:41,600
what's going through Sean 
Payton's head, which is just a 

907
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,400
recipe for disaster like. 
But it is. 

908
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,080
I mean, UDFA, like, like, we see
this all the time. 

909
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,200
Like, Phillip Lindsay was 
awesome. 

910
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,560
And then they were like, hey 
Phillip, yeah, that's true. 

911
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:50,720
Don't care. 
Go away. 

912
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:53,440
There was a regime change. 
There was a regime change. 

913
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,800
So that's the thing you got to 
be careful of with the with the 

914
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,880
third round or with like the 
Damien Pierces, you got to be 

915
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:00,960
really careful when it's a 
regime change, because that's 

916
00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,560
when it's most likely to be 
there being like, I don't give a

917
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,600
shit about you when it's a new 
coach, yeah. 

918
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,400
James Robinson Was that a 
regime? 

919
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,480
Regime James James Robinson was 
a regime change and they even 

920
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,960
started him. 
So they even the the regime 

921
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:17,200
changed and they even started 
him and then he got hurt but but

922
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,080
he, James Robinson almost 
survived. 

923
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,480
Urban Meyer. 
That was to Urban Meyer, right? 

924
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,440
He was the the new guy who 
correct? 

925
00:46:24,640 --> 00:46:27,680
Yeah, someone in the chat asked 
a while ago. 

926
00:46:27,720 --> 00:46:29,640
What's this odds of being RB2? 
Calm. 

927
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,400
I I mean, I just made it up, but
there's. 

928
00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:36,720
No. 
Can you what are the what are 

929
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:41,240
the inputs to this model please?
Yeah, it's just just one of 

930
00:46:41,240 --> 00:46:41,760
these. 
One of. 

931
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:46,560
These that finger types the 
numbers in yeah. 

932
00:46:47,880 --> 00:46:50,240
But I don't know if you guys. 
I would actually be like, as we 

933
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:53,200
go through these, if you think 
these are like wildly off Davis 

934
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:57,440
Pat, please chime in. 
But these guys are roughly like 

935
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,200
I have. 
I have these teams ordered like 

936
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:00,800
roughly. 
I think, I think you have the 

937
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,240
Ravens one wrong. 
I'm pretty sure pretty sure the 

938
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:05,840
Ravens one's wrong. 
Justice Hill has been the 

939
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,640
running back too there for like 
the last decade and and probably

940
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:10,760
will be the running back too. 
Yeah, Justice Hill's the RV too.

941
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:14,760
Let's let's jump to the Ravens 
while we're on that cuz. 

942
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,440
Yeah, this one was weird cuz I 
don't know I I guess let's let's

943
00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:22,760
think imagine it's week 15. 
So Keaton Mitchell's had plenty 

944
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,120
of time to come back from 
injury. 

945
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:28,160
Theoretically at that point you 
still think Justice Hill is RBT 

946
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:30,200
or are you just factoring? 
No, no, no. 

947
00:47:30,200 --> 00:47:32,040
I think. 
I think Keaton Mitchell is the 

948
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:33,920
odds on favorite to be the 
running back too. 

949
00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:37,480
That matters. 
But but Justice Hill? 

950
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,800
Well, even if Keaton is ready to
start the year, Justice will be 

951
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,520
the the second running back to 
get a snap for the Ravens. 

952
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:46,760
Got it. 
Yeah, that. 

953
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Crazy that, like Justice Hill's 
career is like a pretty good 

954
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,920
outcome for his draft capital 
people. 

955
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,360
Sam Sam saw charts earlier like 
this, people. 

956
00:47:55,360 --> 00:47:59,000
Remember one of the good ones? 
People may remember Justice Hill

957
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,360
from famously being the guy you 
needed to win your league in 

958
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:05,520
2018. 
My him. 

959
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,200
And Darwin Thompson, right? 
It was my most. 

960
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:11,800
Darwin Thompson Football. 
Article of all time it like got 

961
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,440
viral on Google News. 
Somehow it was like getting like

962
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,880
millions. 
Yeah, it was me and Pete reading

963
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,800
it in preparation for FFPC 
drafts. 

964
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:19,920
Not ideal. 
Not ideal. 

965
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:23,000
It's also, it's so funny with 
like these guys like Hill and 

966
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:24,760
Deneric Prince is maybe another 
example. 

967
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:28,920
Like these guys that go from 
like these sexy hyped rookies, 

968
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,720
like next league winner and then
two years later we're like, that

969
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:33,200
guy sucks, Like who cares about 
that? 

970
00:48:33,240 --> 00:48:36,240
Guy, we're doing it this year 
with Theo Johnson, who has like 

971
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:38,440
the exact same grass as Daniel 
Bellinger. 

972
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:41,640
And we're like Daniel Bellinger.
That bum, get him out that bum. 

973
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,880
Literally. 
Like, like drill for drill the 

974
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,240
same. 
I mean, how about how about 

975
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,280
literal? 
Like the the one that's been 

976
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:52,880
most startling to me is Odell 
Beckham, because I like was 

977
00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:57,160
doing fantasy analysis when he 
was a rookie and it's like now. 

978
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,800
Now Odell is just an old bum, 
you know. 

979
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,080
He's like the He's like the old 
guy that. 

980
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:03,160
Makes sense. 
David. 

981
00:49:03,320 --> 00:49:06,240
David Johnson retiring. 
I mean, David Johnson's whole 

982
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:10,400
career came and went in in my 
lifetime of doing this. 

983
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:15,040
How it's so crazy that class has
had so many guys that have all 

984
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:17,320
become that guy. 
Like Sammy Watkins was the first

985
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,040
guy who kind of became the old 
guy. 

986
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,840
Sammy Watkins was that guy like 
4 years into his career. 

987
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:24,760
Yeah, I know. 
It's like for his office, rookie

988
00:49:24,840 --> 00:49:26,320
contract. 
He's like bouncing around the 

989
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,880
lake. 
You had Allen Robinson had that 

990
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,560
whole stretch of being that. 
Oh my God, Allen Robinson. 

991
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:36,320
Yeah, yeah. 
I mean eventually we still have 

992
00:49:36,320 --> 00:49:39,520
Mike Evans, Devante Adams to go 
like the we have a couple more 

993
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,360
presumably if that if that's how
they end their. 

994
00:49:42,360 --> 00:49:46,000
Career I I I I feel good about 
Mike Evans not ever becoming 

995
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:47,440
that guy. 
I think he'll probably just ride

996
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,240
out into the sun. 
I. 

997
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:51,400
Hope so man. 
Devante Adams is going to be 37 

998
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:53,520
years old as a Jet. 
Yeah. 

999
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:54,560
Oh God. 
God. 

1000
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:03,240
Bring it back to So back to the 
Ravens here. 

1001
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:06,240
Oh, go ahead. 
Yeah, I was just going to say 

1002
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:09,040
so, just so people have the 
timeline for Keaton Mitchell. 

1003
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:13,080
He had surgery on December 28th.
If you give him like a nine 

1004
00:50:13,080 --> 00:50:17,200
month timeline, that would put 
him back sometime around week 

1005
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:20,160
four or five. 
Now his injury was weird. 

1006
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:24,480
This is getting into the weeds. 
It was reported as a clean ACL. 

1007
00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:28,680
When you watch the injury, it 
did look like one of those. 

1008
00:50:28,680 --> 00:50:33,200
That was like a particularly bad
injury, but obviously that's, 

1009
00:50:33,400 --> 00:50:35,080
you know, not something we 
should put a lot of stock into. 

1010
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:37,040
But it has been reported as a 
clean ACL tear. 

1011
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,200
So I'm, I'm going with that 
assessment, I guess, Yeah. 

1012
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,120
So if he's back in that week 4-5
time span, I actually think he's

1013
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:48,960
a pretty good pick here, but 
definitely someone you should be

1014
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,080
monitoring the news on on his 
recovery to see if he's. 

1015
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:56,000
Actually I want to do can I do a
quick bit here on Rasheen Ali? 

1016
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,760
Because I bet this guy who's not
really been talked about on any 

1017
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,800
fantasy thing pretty actually. 
I think more of a decent chance 

1018
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,680
on the market is indicating that
he beats out both a gimpy Keaton

1019
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:09,560
Mitchell and a an aging Justice 
Hill behind a 30 year old 

1020
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,400
running back. 
His final season at Marshall, 

1021
00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:17,480
5.4 yards per carry, 16 
touchdowns with 15 receptions. 

1022
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:21,320
He probably would have declared 
after his junior season because 

1023
00:51:21,320 --> 00:51:24,280
he was also he was actually 
better as a sophomore and 

1024
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:28,320
Marshall. 24 touchdowns, 6 yards
per carry, 1800 scrimmage yards.

1025
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:32,440
But he got injured as a junior 
and then actually to stay in 

1026
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:36,960
shape, he ran track in between 
his junior and senior year. 

1027
00:51:37,440 --> 00:51:40,000
And you'd think a guy of this 
profile, like an older guy, 

1028
00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:41,400
like, oh, he must have been a 
UDFA. 

1029
00:51:41,400 --> 00:51:44,920
No, he was a fifth round pick, 
165th pick overall. 

1030
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:48,720
For a team that we think of as 
being pretty smart with their 

1031
00:51:48,720 --> 00:51:51,960
picks like like, oh, the Ravens,
they're, they're they're all, 

1032
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:53,280
you know, they're so 
intelligent. 

1033
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:55,320
Like they would never waste the 
pick on a running back, yadda 

1034
00:51:55,320 --> 00:52:00,120
yadda, so on so forth. 
I my my Spidey senses are 

1035
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:02,840
tingling for sure on on Rashid 
Ali. 

1036
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,640
He's definitely a fun guy that I
want to keep my eye on and and 

1037
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,400
see what the reports are on him.
I think that's. 

1038
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:10,200
Yeah, it's a good. 
It's a good shout out because 

1039
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:14,200
he's got some some elements to 
his profile that you know he's 

1040
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:17,680
he was a good breakaway runner. 
He handled a lot of carries. 

1041
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:20,760
He ran a lot of routes. 
He was like a backfield 

1042
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,280
dominator rating star, which is,
you know, Blair Andrews has 

1043
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,240
highlighted this for years where
this is how we found Phillip 

1044
00:52:27,240 --> 00:52:31,600
Lindsay and actually Devon HN 
was a backfield dominator. 

1045
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:35,120
When you get lower into the 
draft, that ability to just 

1046
00:52:35,560 --> 00:52:39,120
handle an entire backfield is 
like, I think it's kind of 

1047
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,000
trust, right? 
It's like this dude was like, 

1048
00:52:41,560 --> 00:52:43,280
they just threw him out there 
and let him do his thing. 

1049
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,960
Your boy Dylan Lowby, A 
backfield dominator as well. 

1050
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:52,320
But yeah, 85% of the backfield 
in his final season at at 

1051
00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:57,000
Marshall and he added breakaway 
yards as well. 

1052
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,240
So he could be kind of 
interesting to me. 

1053
00:52:59,240 --> 00:53:03,400
It's a reason to shy away from 
Keaton Mitchell right now. 

1054
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:06,000
We just talked about how the 
market doesn't price stuff in 

1055
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,280
they're not pricing in Keaton 
Mitchell starting the the 

1056
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:13,640
training camp on pop, like 
'cause he's gonna, he's gonna, 

1057
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,080
he's gonna fall. 
So, and you know, like if if 

1058
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,120
you're taking Jonathan Brooks 
right now, he's probably gonna 

1059
00:53:19,120 --> 00:53:22,120
fall for the same reason. 
But like Brooks is a potential 

1060
00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:24,760
league winning pick. 
Mitchell's kind of like a an 

1061
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:28,440
intriguing dark throw I I 
probably want to wait on on good

1062
00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:30,720
news and take him in more 
towards the end of the summer. 

1063
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:34,960
Let's move here to the Saints. 
I think this has kind of been an

1064
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:39,280
under discussed one in terms of 
second year running backs, 

1065
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:44,760
Kendrick Miller, he's at 15180 
Pi have him here as a 60% odds 

1066
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:48,360
of beating out Jamal Williams. 
Shouldn't it be 100%? 

1067
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:49,720
Yeah, I think that should be 
higher. 

1068
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:51,560
I think if I started to come 
around. 

1069
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:54,200
Yeah, I think. 
I think it should be higher. 

1070
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,120
The only thing is like, he 
didn't. 

1071
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:58,760
That's what I'm just saying is 
like, he didn't do it last year 

1072
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:00,320
like. 
He got hurt When? 

1073
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:04,400
When a rookie gets hurt in camp,
like all bets are off. 

1074
00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,200
I think that's one thing I've 
really learned as trying to 

1075
00:54:08,200 --> 00:54:11,200
mature as a fantasy football 
player is if a a rookie player 

1076
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,800
gets injured in camp, like maybe
if the coaching staff loves 

1077
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,560
them, it can be all right. 
But if the coaching staff is 

1078
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,040
just like whatever, he's just in
a like he's just here. 

1079
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:24,840
It's it's it's a very hard 
deficit to to make up. 

1080
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:31,080
Yeah, my buddy pointed out that 
the scheme change with Kendrick 

1081
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:32,760
Miller could be pretty bullish 
as well. 

1082
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:36,320
Going to the the, the Kubiak 
style offense here, it's. 

1083
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:38,600
Just kind of bullish for any 
running back, isn't it? 

1084
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:40,120
Yeah, I guess it's. 
Bullish for any running back. 

1085
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:44,160
But but I mean, I think Miller's
kind of like, you know, we're 

1086
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:48,720
betting on like explosiveness. 
He's a sort of a weird prospect 

1087
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,280
where like he when you watch 
him, you're like, oh, he looks 

1088
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,120
almost like Kamara, esque. 
Like you expect that he's going 

1089
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:56,480
to be this like versatile 
receiving guy, but he's more of 

1090
00:54:56,520 --> 00:55:01,080
a kind of explosive runner than 
you know receiver. 

1091
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:06,760
So that would, if you know, I 
mean, it can't hurt, 'cause he 

1092
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:08,320
because it wasn't. 
It wasn't. 

1093
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,440
Worse than whatever they had 
last year, Yeah. 

1094
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,160
Yeah. 
But also I was talking to his 

1095
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:17,720
prospect profile and it was a 
bit, it was pretty good. 

1096
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:20,400
Like, he's he's a better 
prospect than a lot of the 

1097
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,440
running backs in this class. 
So kind. 

1098
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,320
Of how would he compare to you 
like compare, let's say like 

1099
00:55:25,480 --> 00:55:27,960
Marshawn Lloyd, How do you 
compare to that in terms of 

1100
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,080
prospect profile? 
So I have. 

1101
00:55:30,080 --> 00:55:32,000
Kendrick Miller. 
It has to be way better. 

1102
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:35,920
Lloyd was a part time back. 
Yeah, I have Kendrick Miller 

1103
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:42,000
just tiered as a second round 
dynasty pick and Lloyd is 1/3 

1104
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:47,560
and the only other second rounds
just like straight seconds. 

1105
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:49,880
I have a couple early few early 
2nd rounders. 

1106
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,000
I'll just say from last year 
I'll just go through the entire 

1107
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,360
classes. 
Bijan Robinson. 

1108
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:56,120
I have his work being with the 
Superflex one O 1. 

1109
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,720
Jamir Gibbs is an early first. 
Jonathan Brooks is a late 1st 

1110
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:03,920
Trey Benson, Taiji Spears, Zach 
Charbonnet is early 2nd Devon HN

1111
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,880
and Kendra Miller is second, 
Everyone else 1/3 or later. 

1112
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:10,400
Got it. 
Yeah, I'm with you guys. 

1113
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,840
I think I should, I should have 
bumped this up to like 8085% or 

1114
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:15,600
something. 
And I I think the also the other

1115
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:20,200
thing that's exciting about this
one is man Alvin Kamara, he he 

1116
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,800
might be done pretty soon and it
wouldn't be like compared to 

1117
00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:25,840
other guys in this list like 
Elijah Mitchell. 

1118
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:30,280
Obviously not gonna overtake CMC
like CEH, not gonna overtake 

1119
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,000
Pacheco. 
I could see Kendra Miller just 

1120
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,800
being a better fit for this new 
Shanahan S scheme than Alvin 

1121
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:39,360
Kamara is at this stage of his 
career. 

1122
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:42,520
That wouldn't entirely shock me 
if, if that happened. 

1123
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:45,960
I mean Kamara. 
I wouldn't be surprised at all. 

1124
00:56:46,280 --> 00:56:48,120
Kamara is washed like as a 
runner. 

1125
00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,240
He's been bad, man. 
He's been so bad, like. 

1126
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:56,440
He had Kamara had multiple games
not only of sub three yards per 

1127
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,920
carry last season, but he also 
had two games with negative 

1128
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:04,680
yards receiving, which is. 
Somewhere. 

1129
00:57:04,720 --> 00:57:05,880
Interesting. 
That's hard to do. 

1130
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:08,920
That is hard to do. 
Ezekiel Elliott, you know, we 

1131
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:13,160
all know how watch Zeke is 42% 
success rate last year is pretty

1132
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,040
good. 
So he's like still doing a thing

1133
00:57:16,040 --> 00:57:18,480
that's useless, like higher than
Joe Mixon, higher than Brian 

1134
00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,240
Robinson, higher than Derrick 
Henry. 

1135
00:57:21,320 --> 00:57:24,080
He's still like out there doing 
a thing that like a team can 

1136
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:26,680
count on. 
Kamara's success rate was was 

1137
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:31,000
horrendous and he's and he had 
99 yards underexpected. 

1138
00:57:31,000 --> 00:57:32,400
So you're getting kind of the 
worst of both. 

1139
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:37,880
It's like you know Damien Pierce
the 33% success rate -83 it's 

1140
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:41,120
like that kind of vibes. 
Joshua Kelly's down here. 

1141
00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:46,040
Jamal Williams Miles Sanders 
like just any like it's up to 

1142
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:47,560
Kendray. 
You know what I mean. 

1143
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:51,440
Like if Kendray has something he
he should be able to to force 

1144
00:57:51,440 --> 00:57:53,680
his way on the field. 
Because the other one, I mean 

1145
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:57,280
Jamal Williams, one of the other
guys down here, -102 rush yards 

1146
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:00,920
over expected in 2023 with a 29%
success rate. 

1147
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:05,600
This, he was horrendous. 
The Jamal Williams contract last

1148
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:07,360
offseason is is one of the 
worst. 

1149
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:10,720
I mean the Saints, The Saints 
are so bad at this. 

1150
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,120
The Saints are like the worst 
contract team. 

1151
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,880
Well, look, if you just want to 
have a good laugh, go look at 

1152
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:17,640
what they made them pay Taysom 
Hill. 

1153
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,200
Like they can't even, they can't
even cut Taysom Hill because 

1154
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,720
Sean Taylor. 
Like it was like 3 years ago. 

1155
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:27,040
They still can't cut him that 
because it's like Taysom is good

1156
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:29,720
enough to be on the field, to 
just like be a football player, 

1157
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:33,520
so they can't cut him. 
But it's just like, it's just so

1158
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,720
bad. 
What they should do, honestly, 

1159
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:39,360
is they should just, they should
just cut all the bad contracts 

1160
00:58:39,360 --> 00:58:41,120
in one offseason and just eat 
it. 

1161
00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:44,120
Just be like, you know what? 
We're just going to be the worst

1162
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:47,680
team in football for the next 
year and a half and just be like

1163
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:51,040
it is what it is. 
I mean, they're going to be the 

1164
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,560
worst team in football here 
pretty soon either way. 

1165
00:58:55,160 --> 00:58:58,560
But they keep trying to, they 
keep trying to paper over it and

1166
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,320
I think they just need to. 
They just need to be like we are

1167
00:59:01,320 --> 00:59:03,080
an XFL franchise for the. 
Next. 

1168
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:06,240
Yeah, they got to stop. 
Yeah, they got to stop kicking 

1169
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:09,640
the can down the road, like. 
Like the like the Derek Carr 

1170
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:12,720
contract extension. 
It's like that just was so, so, 

1171
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,160
so misguided. 
It was so bad. 

1172
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,600
But is it misguided from a 
perspective of like, how are 

1173
00:59:18,600 --> 00:59:21,800
these particular set of 
individuals going to be employed

1174
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,800
by an NFL franchise? 
If not the Saints like you, just

1175
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,400
how to how to extend the hell 
out. 

1176
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,560
Of taysom taysom, taysom. 
'Cause I feel like this is it. 

1177
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,560
We made our bed. 
Here's the thing. 

1178
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,720
Peyton fucked himself because if
Taysom made less money, he could

1179
00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:36,280
have just traded for him and he 
would have gotten his 

1180
00:59:36,280 --> 00:59:38,080
quarterback and wouldn't have 
had to do Bonex. 

1181
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:42,560
I'm surprised that the Broncos 
haven't figured out a way to 

1182
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:45,040
trade for Taysom yet. 
That's that's coming next year. 

1183
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:46,640
It's. 
Coming next year. 

1184
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:48,840
Everyone. 
Everyone in the chat, guess what

1185
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,040
they think Taysom Hill's 
contract is right. 

1186
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:52,680
Now. 
Just everyone in the chat in 

1187
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:54,440
your head. 
Do a little mental calculus. 

1188
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:56,400
What do you think Taysom Hill 
gets paid? 

1189
00:59:56,440 --> 00:59:59,720
I I know the answer, Sam. 
What do you think Taysom Hill 

1190
00:59:59,720 --> 01:00:00,760
gets? 
Paid Are you saying it's like 

1191
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:03,920
cap hit this year? 
I'm saying, let's see, what's 

1192
01:00:03,920 --> 01:00:06,600
the funnier number? 
His funnier, what do you think 

1193
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:09,000
is what do you think his dead 
cap number is? 

1194
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,000
His dead cap number is the 
funniest number. 

1195
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:19,400
Like 25,000,000. 24,000,000. 40 
Four Well done, Sam. 

1196
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:23,800
I knew it was absurd. 
I've I've been on that over the 

1197
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:25,720
Cap page before. 
It's a cumulative. 

1198
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,360
Is his cumulative? 
Is Khalif Rayman's yards from 

1199
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:29,880
Route Run and Taste Mills dead 
cap? 

1200
01:00:32,200 --> 01:00:34,920
His His cumulative cash number 
is 32,000,000. 

1201
01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,960
His actual cap hit, obviously, 
is. 

1202
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,680
Not that. 
Bad, because this is the way the

1203
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:42,720
Saints do things, is the actual 
cap hit ends up being OK because

1204
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:46,000
it's all kicks down the road. 
Because it's it's not for three 

1205
01:00:46,040 --> 01:00:49,520
more years. 
Now now if Taysom is a if Taysom

1206
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:55,520
is a St. next year $15 million 
for 34 year old Taysom mill. 

1207
01:00:55,520 --> 01:01:02,680
He's still a team next year. 
Tony Gonzalez retired at 34, 

1208
01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:05,320
didn't he? 
It's unbelievable. 

1209
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:09,720
Oh, and it's just like and I 
can't even have fun with it 

1210
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,960
anymore because underdog. 
Underdog removed his tight end 

1211
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,560
eligibility. 
So misguided. 

1212
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,480
So sad. 
You know, it's a bummer. 

1213
01:01:18,680 --> 01:01:20,440
When? 
Did Gonzalez retire? 

1214
01:01:20,560 --> 01:01:21,600
He might have been older than 
that. 

1215
01:01:21,920 --> 01:01:25,200
No, he played. 37 Yeah, my bad. 
He played for a long. 

1216
01:01:25,560 --> 01:01:30,240
Time I shorted it three years. 
I wanted it on this 49ers one 

1217
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:32,960
quickly. 
Are we taking Elijah Mitchell? 

1218
01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:36,040
I've been a little spooked on. 
Nah, dude, I'm a Cody Schrader, 

1219
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,640
bro. 
Are you actually drafting him or

1220
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:41,720
is that is that a bit? 
He he's legitimately going to be

1221
01:01:41,720 --> 01:01:48,040
like sub 5% owned in in baseball
Mania 5I I I think it's like 

1222
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,960
Girendo is the Joe Williams Cody
Schrader is the one who makes 

1223
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:54,000
the roster. 
That's that's all That's all I 

1224
01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,520
need to know. 
I I think the Elijah Mitchell's 

1225
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:04,120
80% drafted Girendo 40 to 50 
trader legit 1% it it feels it 

1226
01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:06,000
just feels right. 
I don't know, maybe I'm maybe 

1227
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:08,840
idiot. 
He's definitely somewhat on 

1228
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,960
monitoring. 
I wouldn't be drafting him now 

1229
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:15,560
personally, but I don't know. 
I I I don't, I don't really know

1230
01:02:15,560 --> 01:02:17,640
to do with Elijah Mitchell. 
Like I can talk myself into 

1231
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,960
Shanahan loving him. 
I can also talk myself into 

1232
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:22,440
Shanahan hating him. 
I also didn't even put Jordan 

1233
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,840
Mason on here. 
I think he's maybe a sneaky 

1234
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:28,360
factor. 
No, I mean he he had his chance.

1235
01:02:28,360 --> 01:02:30,920
Like they were very, very clear 
last year that Mitchell was the 

1236
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:33,760
number two over Mason, so. 
Yeah. 

1237
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,040
I think Mitchell's the number 
two. 

1238
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:36,080
I think Mitchell's the number 
two. 

1239
01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:38,760
You have to keep in mind who the
49ers are. 

1240
01:02:38,760 --> 01:02:41,280
They love running backs. 
They love draft and acquiring 

1241
01:02:41,280 --> 01:02:43,480
them everything. 
So what? 

1242
01:02:43,480 --> 01:02:46,560
You know, what's the deal? 
Elijah Mitchell is a is a on his

1243
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:50,040
rookie year on his rookie deal. 
He's on the last year of it, so.

1244
01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,440
He's But it's pretty clear why 
they want another running back, 

1245
01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:56,200
which is Elijah Mitchell has 
made it through zero seasons 

1246
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:59,680
healthy of his NFL career. 
He's the only guy who, like, he 

1247
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:02,400
doesn't even like play in games 
and then you'll find out like 

1248
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,040
next Thursday. 
That he's injured. 

1249
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:05,880
And you're like, how did how did
this happen? 

1250
01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:06,920
You didn't even play true. 
True. 

1251
01:03:06,920 --> 01:03:14,040
This is what the Hell's Elijah 
Mitchell Little for Chris 

1252
01:03:14,120 --> 01:03:16,160
recovery at 100% snap rate last 
week. 

1253
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,920
Oh, it's so like, it's so true. 
You'd be like, what do you what?

1254
01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,440
Wait, wait, why is Jordan Mason 
getting what is what is Tyrion 

1255
01:03:24,440 --> 01:03:26,160
Davis Price is in the game. 
What? 

1256
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:27,040
What's? 
The deal? 

1257
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:30,040
I know it from doing waivers 
last year is that every week I 

1258
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:31,920
just have to write up Jordan 
Mason because be like, oh, 

1259
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:34,840
Elijah Mitchell, DNP for three 
straight practice for some 

1260
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:36,400
reason, even though he never 
plays. 

1261
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,320
So that's. 
What That's what this is about. 

1262
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,880
And they're they're going to 
have Gorendo or Schrader 

1263
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:46,360
available for those weeks and 
probably Mason is is off the 

1264
01:03:46,360 --> 01:03:48,680
team. 
But like, I I think that they 

1265
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,080
ride it out with Mitchell. 
Like they seem to like Mitchell 

1266
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,040
when he's there. 
Now clearly they brought in CMC.

1267
01:03:55,040 --> 01:03:56,440
They don't trust him to stay 
healthy. 

1268
01:03:56,440 --> 01:04:00,800
But I think is the #2 back like 
behind CMC you're in a 

1269
01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:03,520
championship window. 
You know, Elijah Mitchell's 

1270
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:08,120
trustworthy, like he's the RB2. 
I think I would be like, think 

1271
01:04:08,120 --> 01:04:13,480
of how think how unsurprised you
are to be sitting in August and 

1272
01:04:13,480 --> 01:04:16,720
find out that you know, Elijah 
Mitchell's like basically like 

1273
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:18,920
exiting with, you know, the 
first team he's done. 

1274
01:04:18,920 --> 01:04:20,880
His night's over. 
Yeah. 

1275
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:24,520
Oh yes, he has count. 
His night's over, 'cause he has 

1276
01:04:24,640 --> 01:04:28,160
count not with arresting him. 
Oh. 

1277
01:04:29,080 --> 01:04:33,920
Yeah, that they're resting. 
I thought you were. 

1278
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,200
Going down, I thought you were 
going down the injury path. 

1279
01:04:36,280 --> 01:04:39,160
But you no, no, no. 
I'm I'm going down the like it's

1280
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:41,040
May. 
We think Arendo and Trader are 

1281
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:45,560
interesting in the preseason. 
We're gonna see Gorendo play 

1282
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,200
deep into the fourth quarter. 
We're gonna see Schrader like in

1283
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:50,600
the final preseason game, like 
basically play the oh. 

1284
01:04:50,600 --> 01:04:53,600
Gorendo's getting 22 carries in 
preseason week four and then 

1285
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,040
getting stashed on the practice 
squad. 

1286
01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:58,680
I the the chat. 
The chat seems to be very upset 

1287
01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:00,760
by this. 
They just they're not. 

1288
01:05:00,840 --> 01:05:03,080
They're not. 
Gorendo could be the kick return

1289
01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:05,480
guy, right? 
That's what that's what they're 

1290
01:05:05,480 --> 01:05:08,840
saying. 
I mean, Grendo was like a fine 

1291
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,040
kick returner in college. 
It's it's obviously, it's all 

1292
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,000
projection. 
I mean, I do want people to be 

1293
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:16,240
aware of the guy they're 
drafting. 

1294
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:20,720
This is a guy who played five 
seasons in college and got 1400 

1295
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,320
rushing yards. 
Total total. 

1296
01:05:23,720 --> 01:05:25,640
Yeah, I think I'm, I'm signing 
with Korean. 

1297
01:05:25,640 --> 01:05:26,920
I think we're over. 
I think the market's 

1298
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:29,440
overthinking this one. 
Having Mitchell priced down so 

1299
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:33,000
low, I would bump his odds up 
from the 60% I have now, like. 

1300
01:05:33,360 --> 01:05:34,880
It's it's just people are just 
sick of it. 

1301
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:36,320
People are just. 
Yeah, people are just bored. 

1302
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,280
They're just bored. 
They're just bored of it. 

1303
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:40,120
Including none of theirs. 
The 49ers. 

1304
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:41,880
Report they're they're just 
wasting pigs back. 

1305
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:43,640
But they're. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1306
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,760
And we we should put more weight
on Elijah Mitchell's rookie 

1307
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:48,960
season. 
Again, it it was somewhat marred

1308
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,360
by. 
He had like he had 20 underdog 

1309
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,360
points in Week 17 last year. 
I know 'cause I those points 

1310
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:59,120
counted for me on the team. 
He was pretty good as a rookie 

1311
01:05:59,120 --> 01:06:01,360
when he wasn't injured. 
He's been pretty good. 

1312
01:06:01,360 --> 01:06:03,120
Just straight up. 
He's just been pretty good, 

1313
01:06:03,640 --> 01:06:04,880
yeah. 
He's. 

1314
01:06:05,000 --> 01:06:07,280
I don't really wanna talk. 
Talk about the Bears one. 

1315
01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:08,920
Let's talk about the. 
Wait, wait, no, no. 

1316
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,360
The Bears one's like my favorite
one. 

1317
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,480
All right, what's what do you 
have to say on the bears, 

1318
01:06:13,480 --> 01:06:14,280
Khalil? 
Herbert. 

1319
01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:16,040
Khalil Herbert is the answer 
here. 

1320
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,120
Guys, what are we doing? 
Khalil Herbert is good. 

1321
01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:21,960
And guess what? 
If it's not Khalil Herbert, it's

1322
01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:24,840
'cause they traded him. 
Maybe he's the Cowboys guy. 

1323
01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:27,440
Like, he actually seems like a 
dude who who you know. 

1324
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,760
Could I mean, that's the that's 
the fan fiction. 

1325
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,400
That's the fan fiction that 
everyone wants, is that he gets 

1326
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:33,680
traded to the Cowboys? 
Yeah. 

1327
01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,880
The other thing about about 
Herbert is I think he's just 

1328
01:06:37,880 --> 01:06:40,040
straight up better than DeAndre 
Swift as a runner. 

1329
01:06:41,760 --> 01:06:43,880
Probably, yeah. 
So I think he. 

1330
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,480
Is the best runner on the team, 
like for free at the end of 

1331
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:49,680
drafts. 
I can't stop taking Klu Herbert.

1332
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:53,320
I think he's an awesome pick. 
The problem, I guess the only 

1333
01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:55,240
problem I have with him and I 
I've been taking a lot of him, 

1334
01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:59,000
Crane, so I generally agree with
you, is like the I don't know, 

1335
01:06:59,000 --> 01:07:00,680
it just seems like the team 
doesn't like him and I don't 

1336
01:07:00,680 --> 01:07:03,720
really know why, but they keep 
bringing in people to replace 

1337
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:07,360
him. 
It's just it's a little muddled.

1338
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,720
But I do think, I think Swift, 
if there's a compliment to Swift

1339
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,400
that makes sense in this 
offense, it makes a lot more 

1340
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,480
sense for it to be rather than 
Rochaun. 

1341
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:19,320
I I don't think so. 
No I no I think it is rochaun 

1342
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:23,040
cause rochaun is the big body. 
No, Roshan's like the pass 

1343
01:07:23,040 --> 01:07:25,320
catching guy. 
Yeah, I think of Roshan. 

1344
01:07:25,560 --> 01:07:27,720
Roshan is Semaj P Rein. 
I think that's how you should 

1345
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:28,520
think of Roshan. 
That's. 

1346
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:29,160
Literally. 
Yes. 

1347
01:07:29,160 --> 01:07:30,440
That's right. 
Yeah. 

1348
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:32,560
Yeah. 
So I think you wouldn't 

1349
01:07:32,560 --> 01:07:35,280
compliment DeAndre Swift with 
Semaj P Rein. 

1350
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:39,040
I don't think it's Piron. 
Started out his career as like 

1351
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:43,960
an early down grinder. 
Semaj P Rein Fun Fact Big 12 All

1352
01:07:43,960 --> 01:07:47,280
time single game rushing yards 
leader Like 470 yards against 

1353
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:49,800
the University of Kansas. 
Yeah, he was the he was The 

1354
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:51,720
Grinder back with Joe Mixon in 
college. 

1355
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:53,040
Correct. 
Literally, yes. 

1356
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:54,880
Yeah. 
All right. 

1357
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:58,280
I'm going to leave for a little 
bit and I hope you guys will 

1358
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:00,480
still be arguing about this 
Bears backfield when I get back.

1359
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,160
Yeah, we got to save the Chiefs,
Chiefs one for a day. 

1360
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:05,080
Yeah. 
We got to save the Chiefs. 

1361
01:08:05,720 --> 01:08:08,560
I mean, I don't the other part 
with the Bears backfield is that

1362
01:08:08,560 --> 01:08:11,400
I don't I don't take like any 
Roshan Johnson. 

1363
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:15,880
I don't I don't get. 
I mean now the counter I suppose

1364
01:08:15,880 --> 01:08:20,880
is that well if you think Kahlil
Herbert gets traded then why 

1365
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,279
wouldn't you take some Roshan 
and then he thinks a clear I 

1366
01:08:23,279 --> 01:08:26,000
don't know if he's going to get 
traded as why I like him getting

1367
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:30,680
traded as like a little extra 
you know bonus layer on the bet 

1368
01:08:30,760 --> 01:08:32,880
when I'm when I'm betting on a 
guy I think is really talented 

1369
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,720
and Kahlil Herbert or at least 
talented enough. 

1370
01:08:36,439 --> 01:08:39,760
But I think he if he, I think if
he's there he's he's playing 

1371
01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:42,359
ahead of Roshan. 
And honestly, I mean, he's kind 

1372
01:08:42,359 --> 01:08:45,680
of the Chuba to me. 
Like if I'm looking for a Chuba 

1373
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:48,640
this year, which we probably 
don't get a Chiron right, but we

1374
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:50,040
might get a Chuba. 
Probably not. 

1375
01:08:50,720 --> 01:08:54,000
He's very much in the Chuba 
mold, like just straight up, the

1376
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,840
best, the best running back on 
the roster and the team isn't 

1377
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,479
that into it, but like there 
probably will be by the end of 

1378
01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:04,640
the year. 
Yeah, that that makes sense to 

1379
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,240
me. 
I I don't really know what the 

1380
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,920
market's like obsession with 
Roshan is. 

1381
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:13,560
It's kind of two years in a row 
where I just like haven't got 

1382
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,080
it. 
We don't have all the advanced 

1383
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:16,640
stats on him. 
He didn't have enough rushes to 

1384
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:20,600
qualify for like NFL Next Gen. 
But you look at his PFF rush 

1385
01:09:20,600 --> 01:09:23,800
grade, it's pretty close to the 
bottom of the league. 

1386
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,160
I think what he has going for 
him is he's a competent 

1387
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:29,399
receiver, you know, 34 
receptions as a rookie, that's 

1388
01:09:29,399 --> 01:09:33,160
pretty good on a volume basis. 
Now he didn't do anything with 

1389
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:36,359
them and the fact they brought 
in Swift just seems like a 

1390
01:09:36,359 --> 01:09:39,760
signal to me that they wanted to
upgrade the pass catching role 

1391
01:09:39,800 --> 01:09:44,319
in this offense. 
So I think Rochon has a pretty 

1392
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:48,640
thin path to relevance this 
season, particularly like I I 

1393
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:52,160
think he needs an injury to 
Swift in order to be relevant or

1394
01:09:52,160 --> 01:09:54,800
a trade of Herbert. 
But yeah. 

1395
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:58,280
I've also just, I mean, Rochon 
was supposed to be this kind of 

1396
01:09:58,280 --> 01:10:01,920
like, you know, oh man, he's 
almost like Miles Sanders behind

1397
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,360
Saquon, like he was stuck behind
Bijon. 

1398
01:10:04,360 --> 01:10:07,520
But that's not really his fault 
because Bijon's so good and he's

1399
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,640
going to come in here and be 
something in the NFL. 

1400
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,600
And then he got drafted later 
than people were thinking he 

1401
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:13,920
might. 
And then he like, didn't do 

1402
01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:17,600
anything as a rookie, really. 
I mean, like, I don't know. 

1403
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,160
I just I just I just like 
waiting for evidence that he's 

1404
01:10:21,160 --> 01:10:25,600
something you know he hasn't 
really flashed ever you know so 

1405
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:31,840
and and I I think Herbert is 
good is really what it comes 

1406
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:34,960
down to as well. 
Two years ago he had a 47% 

1407
01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:38,280
success rate that was the 4th 
highest in the NFL. 

1408
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:46,280
Last year was lower but still 
42% which is they don't number 

1409
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:53,880
these what 456-789-1011, RB 11 
in between Naja Harris Zach Moss

1410
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:56,800
just behind James Cook Kyron 
Williams. 

1411
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:58,880
So I don't know. 
He does what he's supposed to 

1412
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:00,600
do. 
You know, he's not, like, the 

1413
01:11:00,600 --> 01:11:04,400
most explosive guy, but like, 
that feels like it should be 

1414
01:11:04,400 --> 01:11:07,520
worth something in a, you know, 
an offense that's going to 

1415
01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:09,600
mostly be built around a rookie 
quarterback. 

1416
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,880
A reliable, the most reliable 
running back Seems like he might

1417
01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,040
have a a shot of earning more 
work as the season goes on. 

1418
01:11:15,960 --> 01:11:18,160
Yeah, I agree. 
It's still so strange to me that

1419
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,360
DeAndre Swift got that contract 
he did after how he performed 

1420
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,480
last year in Philadelphia. 
That was odd to me. 

1421
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:27,960
So you know it. 
I don't want to compare it to 

1422
01:11:27,960 --> 01:11:31,360
the Miles Sanders situation. 
I think Swift is likely has left

1423
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:33,960
more left in the tank than 
Sanders did last year. 

1424
01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:36,960
But it would not shock me if by 
the end of the year, the Bears 

1425
01:11:36,960 --> 01:11:39,400
are like, Oh well, we made a big
mistake with the Swift signing. 

1426
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:41,080
Why do you think that? 
Why do you? 

1427
01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,840
I mean, Swift is coming off a 
worse year than Sanders was the 

1428
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,760
year before. 
Yeah, no, I I guess. 

1429
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:49,520
I don't. 
I guess I'm just saying, I think

1430
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,880
Sanders hit like a very low 
percentile outcome coming off 

1431
01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:57,160
that contract. 
It it's very rare for guys to 

1432
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:00,520
get the money that Sanders got 
at his age and completely 

1433
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:02,800
disappear. 
So that's what I'm saying. 

1434
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:06,160
Like I I don't think Swift is 
gonna completely fall off the 

1435
01:12:06,160 --> 01:12:08,360
face of the earth in a way that 
Sanders had. 

1436
01:12:09,160 --> 01:12:13,080
If if that makes sense. 
If I if I didn't know Sanders 

1437
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:16,240
was going to do that, I would 
have given them like equal odds 

1438
01:12:16,760 --> 01:12:21,000
of falling off. 
I think Sanders was a better bet

1439
01:12:21,200 --> 01:12:24,640
this year than Swift is like, I 
think I agree with you, like 

1440
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:28,480
Sanders hit a really low 
percentile outcome to just 

1441
01:12:28,480 --> 01:12:31,080
completely get wiped off. 
But it was, it was very, it was 

1442
01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:34,960
a very real possibility. 
But I think this is like even 

1443
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:38,520
more of a real possibility. 
Like, keep in mind he was 

1444
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:41,080
drafted in the second round by 
the Lions and then they gave up 

1445
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:44,200
on him. 
But the the Eagles got him 

1446
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,080
basically for free because 
didn't they get a comp pick out 

1447
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:48,840
of it too? 
And then where is he now? 

1448
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:51,000
Not the Eagles. 
He's somewhere else. 

1449
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:53,320
I know, I know a third team did 
sign him and give him a weird 

1450
01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,800
amount of money. 
But like, I don't know teams. 

1451
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:59,600
I've been listening to to Kevin 
Colespod and he's like he points

1452
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,800
out that like it's actually not 
that bad of an idea to just like

1453
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,040
make sure you get a running back
and free agency because then you

1454
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:09,320
don't spend your very, very, 
very, very valuable upside 

1455
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,400
capital, which is really what 
draft picks are on running 

1456
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,600
backs. 
So like you know whatever like 

1457
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,080
waste some money on a on a free 
agent running back, make sure 

1458
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,640
you get a guy to fill that role 
and then don't draft anyone is 

1459
01:13:19,640 --> 01:13:23,640
actually kind of sharp. 
So maybe maybe there's something

1460
01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:27,160
there I don't know. 
But like you're the money 

1461
01:13:27,160 --> 01:13:30,640
doesn't mean that much to me. 
He's a guy who's washed out of 

1462
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,520
two different situations, hasn't
really been that good. 

1463
01:13:33,720 --> 01:13:35,760
He showed some explosiveness 
early in his career, but it's 

1464
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,080
been a while now. 
I mean dude, he think how 

1465
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:40,360
explosive we would have expected
him to be. 

1466
01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,120
Like the two years ago. 
DeAndre Swift in our minds 

1467
01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:46,520
entering the jail and Hertz 
rushing attack like Oh my God, 

1468
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,720
he was boring as hell. 
He couldn't muster like, any 

1469
01:13:49,720 --> 01:13:52,920
useful games last year. 
It was weird too, 'cause it. 

1470
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,160
Do you remember that first game,
how good he looked and how good 

1471
01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,600
the offensive line looked? 
Like he was just running all 

1472
01:13:58,600 --> 01:14:00,880
over the field. 
I'm like, wow, this DeAndre 

1473
01:14:00,880 --> 01:14:03,600
Swift with the Eagles O line, 
Like this thing is really gonna 

1474
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:06,000
work. 
And then, like, he just never 

1475
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,320
looked good again. 
The rest of the like, it was so 

1476
01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:11,160
weird watching that game and 
then the rest of the season just

1477
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:13,840
being like oh he's he's nothing 
like it. 

1478
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:19,240
So I think part of why I think I
still have like leftover DeAndre

1479
01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,320
Swift excitement in my mind just
cause of how we thought of him 

1480
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,520
as a prospect. 
And it's probably best for me 

1481
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,840
just to like completely throw 
that in the trash cause of how 

1482
01:14:28,840 --> 01:14:31,880
bad he was last year and like 
you pointed out, he washed out 

1483
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:34,560
in the line situation, so. 
That's what I'm saying. 

1484
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:39,080
I mean I I'd rather have Naji 
heroes rather easily have like 

1485
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,680
Jonathan Brooks. 
I'm I'm, I'm struggling with 

1486
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:44,160
Swift. 
I'm definitely struggling to 

1487
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,960
take Swift. 
Yeah, I've been clicking him, 

1488
01:14:45,960 --> 01:14:48,920
even though I like, have don't 
like him at all. 

1489
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,760
So I'm glad that you're just 
reaching for those guys going 

1490
01:14:51,760 --> 01:14:53,720
farther ahead. 
I'll probably, I probably need 

1491
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:59,040
to just stop taking him. 
Let's save the Chiefs one for 

1492
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,800
when Davis gets back, 'cause I 
think he'll have some thoughts 

1493
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:05,080
there. 
We're now moving on to the next 

1494
01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:09,960
tier of running backs and on 
this list is guys where the 

1495
01:15:09,960 --> 01:15:15,200
running back two is usually like
not being drafted at all or it's

1496
01:15:15,200 --> 01:15:18,520
just completely uncertain who 
that's going to be. 

1497
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:20,360
I started off here with the 
Texans. 

1498
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:24,160
This is maybe the most certain 
of the uncertain situations. 

1499
01:15:24,160 --> 01:15:28,280
Damien Pierce is getting drafted
a little bit, but I don't know, 

1500
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:32,480
man, like they were playing 
Daria Goomba Wale over him in 

1501
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,600
the playoffs. 
So I like I'm looking for an 

1502
01:15:35,600 --> 01:15:37,760
excuse to take someone else 
besides Pierce. 

1503
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:39,520
How are you? 
How are you playing this one 

1504
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,200
grain? 
I've taken Pierce, like 

1505
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:45,560
occasionally on Stroud stuff 
where like, I just like 

1506
01:15:45,560 --> 01:15:47,360
desperate for another running 
back. 

1507
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,520
But it's like one of those ones 
where like, you know, like I 

1508
01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:52,960
need to figure out a way to play
this differently next time. 

1509
01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,920
I can't let that happen again. 
You know Like it's just not 

1510
01:15:58,040 --> 01:16:06,760
Pierce is just not good you know
and I think mixing is capable 

1511
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:09,360
you know they and clearly the 
Texans do as well because they 

1512
01:16:09,400 --> 01:16:12,400
could have let him play out this
deal and instead they gave him 

1513
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:15,280
an extension before he he suited
up for a single snap for them. 

1514
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:20,760
So I think you know mixing is so
clearly better you're it's 

1515
01:16:20,760 --> 01:16:23,760
really just contingent value 
that you would have kind of any 

1516
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:29,560
appeal if if they're if that 
contingent value materializes is

1517
01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:32,840
even the guy is it Jordan? 
I don't know. 

1518
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:34,600
I mean, I don't know. 
Like I really don't know 

1519
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:36,760
Darwick. 
Darwick is a snap eater though, 

1520
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,080
man. 
Like he if you need someone to 

1521
01:16:39,080 --> 01:16:43,080
like play 60% of snaps in a 
pinch like Darwick can, he can 

1522
01:16:43,080 --> 01:16:45,760
do it and he plays special teams
so he'll be active and stuff. 

1523
01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:50,480
Like, I don't know, I I struggle
to to get excited about Damien 

1524
01:16:50,480 --> 01:16:52,520
Pierce clearly. 
I I do too. 

1525
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:55,720
It's just it's so, so bad that, 
you know, the playoffs last 

1526
01:16:55,720 --> 01:16:59,560
year, their season on the line, 
Damien Pierce doesn't register a

1527
01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:02,120
snap. 
Darian Goomba Wale plays 30% of 

1528
01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:07,120
the snaps that That to me is 
like close to the death knell 

1529
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,200
for Damien Pierce. 
I think another underrated 

1530
01:17:09,200 --> 01:17:14,000
aspect of this is I think people
sometimes underestimate, like 

1531
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:18,160
stylistically, the different 
types of runners that are out 

1532
01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:21,480
there in the NFL. 
Damien Pierce is a terrible fit 

1533
01:17:21,480 --> 01:17:24,400
for the Shanahan scheme. 
I'm not a ball knower enough to,

1534
01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:27,600
like, tell you why, but 
basically everyone who knows 

1535
01:17:27,600 --> 01:17:29,320
ball says that. 
It's just like, yeah, he 

1536
01:17:29,320 --> 01:17:31,080
couldn't execute the Shannon 
scheme. 

1537
01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:34,440
Devin Singletary could do it. 
Singletary's not that great. 

1538
01:17:34,600 --> 01:17:38,080
But like, Pierce just straight 
up can't play in this offense. 

1539
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,560
And that's what happened to him 
last year. 

1540
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,080
It's the same offense. 
It's the same scheme. 

1541
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:46,640
Like, I don't know, I I think 
like he he could get caught, 

1542
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:49,040
traded. 
I just think the Texans are all 

1543
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:50,440
the way out on Pierce at this 
point. 

1544
01:17:50,440 --> 01:17:52,880
So I don't have enough 
confidence to say, oh, you 

1545
01:17:52,880 --> 01:17:55,800
should be drafting Jawar Jordan.
You know, dare. 

1546
01:17:55,800 --> 01:17:58,920
I do think it's just kind of a 
snap eater, not really someone 

1547
01:17:58,920 --> 01:18:00,560
who's fantasy. 
No, we can't ever draft. 

1548
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,000
We can't ever draft dare. 
But yeah. 

1549
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:07,480
Jordan is the guy maybe keeping 
my eye on, like if if he emerges

1550
01:18:07,480 --> 01:18:09,880
throughout the summer, he's a 
guy that I'd be looking to click

1551
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:14,160
in August and September. 
So Jordan is undersized college 

1552
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:17,800
committee back, but he had 1.27 
yards per route run, which is 

1553
01:18:17,800 --> 01:18:22,320
pretty good. 45% breakaway 
percentage, which is good, 193 

1554
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:26,760
lbs. 
But you know there is a history 

1555
01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:32,760
of undersized, like breakaway 
runners with versatility doing 

1556
01:18:32,760 --> 01:18:35,960
well in Shanahan's schemes, even
if they're sixth round picks, 

1557
01:18:35,960 --> 01:18:39,040
which he was. 
So I would definitely have my 

1558
01:18:39,440 --> 01:18:42,760
eye on him in the pre season in 
training camp. 

1559
01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:45,400
You know, if we start to hear 
any kind of drum beat, I think 

1560
01:18:45,400 --> 01:18:48,120
he probably does become 
draftable because like Damien 

1561
01:18:48,120 --> 01:18:53,000
Pierce is about as weak and 
incumbent RB2AS as we've got. 

1562
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,120
You know, like I think the bar 
for what Jawar Jordan has to do 

1563
01:18:57,120 --> 01:19:00,800
is like a lot higher than what 
Gorendo has to do to to 

1564
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,440
displace, you know, Mitchell to 
be the RB2, for example. 

1565
01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:10,080
I agree with that for sure. 
Jumping here to the Colts, this 

1566
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:13,480
is another interesting 1. 
Jonathan Taylor, obviously the 

1567
01:19:13,480 --> 01:19:18,640
locked in RB1 here then I'd say 
it's a pretty straight up three 

1568
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,720
man competition between Evan 
Hull, Trey Sermon and Tyler 

1569
01:19:21,720 --> 01:19:24,440
Goodson. 
Hull was injured all of last 

1570
01:19:24,440 --> 01:19:25,920
year. 
We didn't really get a chance to

1571
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:29,080
see what he would do or what the
Colts thought of him in this 

1572
01:19:29,080 --> 01:19:32,040
offense. 
Both Sermon and Goodson got some

1573
01:19:32,040 --> 01:19:36,000
run down the stretch when Taylor
and Zach Moss were banged up. 

1574
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:39,840
So this one I'm I I'm not 
pretending to know who's going 

1575
01:19:39,840 --> 01:19:41,720
to win this. 
I would like it to be Hull. 

1576
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:43,600
Obviously he's the most exciting
guy here. 

1577
01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,320
I don't have enough confidence 
though to be drafting hole right

1578
01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:48,640
now. 
I think you're you're running 

1579
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:51,240
pretty high odds of dead roster 
spot risk. 

1580
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:56,160
Curious what you think, Ryan? 
I I want to be in on Hall. 

1581
01:19:56,160 --> 01:19:59,800
I think he's exciting. 
He's very athletic. 

1582
01:19:59,800 --> 01:20:05,360
He ran a bunch of routes in 
college he you know 9.32 Ras, 

1583
01:20:05,360 --> 01:20:08,320
1.66 yards per out run. 
So he was efficient on high 

1584
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:12,720
volume as a receiver, not like 
his his. 

1585
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:17,360
His elusiveness was pretty good 
and breakaway percentage was 

1586
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:19,480
kind of whatever. 
But basically you're kind of 

1587
01:20:19,480 --> 01:20:22,400
like betting on athleticism and 
versatility. 

1588
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:25,200
But I do agree. 
I mean, we just don't know yet 

1589
01:20:25,200 --> 01:20:28,400
and feels like kind of we could 
just be punting off a really 

1590
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:32,040
valuable roster spot. 
But he would be like, I don't 

1591
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:33,760
know. 
He might be like, #1 on my list 

1592
01:20:33,760 --> 01:20:36,080
of, like, if I get the 
information that it that it's 

1593
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:39,640
him, then I'm going to be really
hammering. 

1594
01:20:39,640 --> 01:20:42,320
Because, like, we didn't, like, 
if we zoomed out back to last 

1595
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:44,760
year, we didn't know yet that it
was Kyron. 

1596
01:20:45,080 --> 01:20:47,000
You know, we we thought maybe it
was Zach Evans. 

1597
01:20:47,440 --> 01:20:50,960
And so I would put him in that 
kind of bucket of, like, as soon

1598
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,960
as we hear, like, Oh yeah, I 
think it's Evan Hall. 

1599
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:57,440
Like, I'm drafting Evan Hall. 
But I we just don't, we just 

1600
01:20:57,440 --> 01:21:00,160
don't know yet. 
And I think probably, I mean one

1601
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:03,160
way to do it is instead of just 
maybe don't take a running back 

1602
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,120
in this range, take a rookie 
receiver and grab like, 

1603
01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:09,720
prioritize like a Rico Doudel or
a Vidal who have, like are truly

1604
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,560
in uncertain backfields and we 
know we'll get at least some 

1605
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,960
chance to do something. 
Where did you guys land on Jawar

1606
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:19,840
Jordan? 
Watchlist like strong. 

1607
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,920
Watchlist candidate. 
Strong, yeah, Strong Watchlist 

1608
01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,480
candidate. 
And Pierce, I think is off my 

1609
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:26,000
board. 
He's he's off my board 

1610
01:21:26,000 --> 01:21:29,200
completely, pretty much. 
Well, shouldn't Joe Mixon's 

1611
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,560
backup be higher than off my 
board and strong watchlist? 

1612
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:35,000
Or is the is the Ogumba Wale 
factor too big? 

1613
01:21:35,840 --> 01:21:38,840
Yeah, so the Goomba walleye can 
eat so many snaps if they need 

1614
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,400
him, so he can come in and just 
play. 

1615
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,960
He can eat so many snaps without
ever touching the ball. 

1616
01:21:44,120 --> 01:21:48,160
He he is the the NF LS like 
ultimate snap eater like he he 

1617
01:21:48,160 --> 01:21:51,000
cannot like Devin Singletary 
wishes he could eat empty snaps 

1618
01:21:51,000 --> 01:21:53,560
like Dori Goomba walleye. 
Yeah, that's true, Yeah. 

1619
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,920
Yeah, I just, we talked about it
a bit, but I just don't think 

1620
01:21:56,920 --> 01:21:59,240
Pierce is a fit for this scheme 
at all, like. 

1621
01:21:59,800 --> 01:22:02,760
OK, but that that's being too 
smart by half, isn't it? 

1622
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:06,480
Well, he saw last last year, so 
we. 

1623
01:22:06,640 --> 01:22:08,640
Saw it last. 
Yeah, we saw it last year. 

1624
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:12,560
He's like, he was so bad and got
replaced by like the most 

1625
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:15,440
replaceable running back. 
And then Dario Goomba Walli like

1626
01:22:15,440 --> 01:22:18,680
became RB2. 
Isn't Joe Mixon like maybe kind 

1627
01:22:18,680 --> 01:22:20,840
of sub singletary esque as a 
rusher though? 

1628
01:22:22,600 --> 01:22:25,880
No I no I don't think so. 
I mean, Singletary is so 

1629
01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:29,280
Singletary is the most 
replaceable, but also the most 

1630
01:22:29,280 --> 01:22:32,640
will replace you running back in
the league too. 

1631
01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:35,880
Like you don't bring a Devon 
Singletary to not have him play 

1632
01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:38,720
80% of the snaps in Week 14. 
Yeah, that's what he's there to 

1633
01:22:38,720 --> 01:22:41,400
do. 
Fucking guy's nickname is Motor.

1634
01:22:42,240 --> 01:22:45,640
Yeah, that's a problem. 
Imagine being imagine being 

1635
01:22:45,760 --> 01:22:50,040
Damien Pierce and it's like, 
hey, here's the new run back. 

1636
01:22:50,480 --> 01:22:53,040
We call him Motor. 
We call him motor. 

1637
01:22:53,080 --> 01:22:57,000
I mean I I guess I I don't even,
I don't think I'm that non 

1638
01:22:57,000 --> 01:23:00,000
aligned with you guys. 
I just feel very strongly I'm 

1639
01:23:00,000 --> 01:23:02,160
going to get to the end of 
drafting season and I'm going to

1640
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,120
be like I just played this 
Houston Texans running back 

1641
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,040
thing wrong one way or the other
right? 

1642
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:12,520
Either Joe Mixon learn 80% snaps
and and 10 touchdowns buddy. 

1643
01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,120
Or oh the guy who's really good 
as a rookie. 

1644
01:23:15,120 --> 01:23:17,240
Actually, it it doesn't matter 
that he doesn't know shit about 

1645
01:23:17,240 --> 01:23:19,720
the scheme and he just is the 
most athletic guy left. 

1646
01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:25,800
No, I I feel pretty good. 
Pierce isn't isn't like the way 

1647
01:23:25,800 --> 01:23:27,760
to play it. 
He could hit 'cause he could be 

1648
01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:29,400
there with two and makes it 
gonna get hurt. 

1649
01:23:29,400 --> 01:23:32,040
But like, it's not. 
I don't think he's good. 

1650
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,040
This is Amy Pearson. 
All good. 

1651
01:23:34,440 --> 01:23:38,440
The Texans are a prime candidate
for when Jeff Wilson is cut by 

1652
01:23:38,440 --> 01:23:40,520
the Dolphins when Semaj P Ryan 
is. 

1653
01:23:40,520 --> 01:23:42,400
Made so it's a good point. 
That's a good point. 

1654
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,480
So like. 
This could be Herbert, if 

1655
01:23:44,480 --> 01:23:45,800
Herbert's mixes could be 
Herbert. 

1656
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:52,800
Yeah, do we say enough on the 
Colts stuff or Davis? 

1657
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:54,720
I don't think you got a chance 
to chime in any? 

1658
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:58,360
Any good pick, good pick. 
Are you are you take I. 

1659
01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:01,600
So I definitely. 
I was with Crane that I really 

1660
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:05,840
wanted to be whole, and he's the
guy I will pounce all over like 

1661
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,920
in August and September I'm. 
Evan Hall and Dylan Lauby are 

1662
01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,040
like the Spider Man pointing 
meme, so that's where I land on 

1663
01:24:12,200 --> 01:24:16,000
on that one. 
Let's go to Texans here. 

1664
01:24:16,120 --> 01:24:18,000
This one we actually got. 
Are you taking him? 

1665
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,200
Do I take Lauby? 
Yeah, Yes. 

1666
01:24:21,200 --> 01:24:24,360
Yeah, he's going to be, he's 
going to be, he's going to. 

1667
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:27,640
Worst case scenario, he's the 
passing down back, best case. 

1668
01:24:28,080 --> 01:24:30,600
He's in like a 5050 timeshare 
with Zumir. 

1669
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:33,160
Isn't worst case just? 
I won't even say. 

1670
01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:36,440
Worst case is worst case. 
Is he's he has plenty of time 

1671
01:24:36,440 --> 01:24:38,960
for pickleball. 
Yeah, I was going to say, isn't 

1672
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,640
Amir Abdullah just? 
He's on the practice squad while

1673
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:43,680
Abdullah is acting. 
Yeah, yeah, That's. 

1674
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:46,120
Worst case is you're actually 
hanging out with Dylan Lauby. 

1675
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,840
And you know what? 
If it's for the content, that's 

1676
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:50,840
fine. 
That's fine. 

1677
01:24:51,840 --> 01:24:54,000
Here's the thing. 
Yes, and we did get some news on

1678
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,080
Tank Bigsby. 
I just need, I need this out 

1679
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,280
there. 
No amount of Doug Peterson 

1680
01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:00,560
telling me he believes in Tank 
Bigsby is going to make me 

1681
01:25:00,560 --> 01:25:03,640
fucking forget what I saw. 
I mean, this is the worst 

1682
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:06,800
running back I've ever. 
I've never seen a running back 

1683
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,320
be this bad. 
There's there's also like Shawn 

1684
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:15,120
Siegel has this particular like 
understated like oh you're into 

1685
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:18,040
you're into this guy huh. 
Where you like you know like 

1686
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,680
you're like oh fuck this guy's 
he doesn't have a shot in hell 

1687
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:24,080
and that's what I I was like 
yeah Bixby you know he's got 

1688
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:27,520
he's got like decent draft 
capital pretty clear RB2 role 

1689
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,720
he's like it's yeah. 
OK. 

1690
01:25:29,760 --> 01:25:33,680
Good luck. 
Yeah, I wish, I like. 

1691
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,320
I wish I pulled up his his 
stats, but it was like LA like I

1692
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:41,560
think he maybe had like 10 
opportunities last year in terms

1693
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:45,600
of targets and touches and had 
like 3 fumbles and three drops 

1694
01:25:45,600 --> 01:25:47,800
that turned into interceptions. 
Like, that sounds like an 

1695
01:25:47,800 --> 01:25:50,480
exaggeration, but his stats? 
Were like no, it's it's not. 

1696
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:52,320
Not that far off from that, 
like. 

1697
01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:57,360
There was one there was a fumble
6 and there was a a game 

1698
01:25:57,600 --> 01:26:01,120
clinching like those Jaguars 
were driving to clinch the game 

1699
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:04,200
and the ball bounced off his 
hands into an interception. 

1700
01:26:05,840 --> 01:26:08,760
Yeah, I mean it it's it's so bad
that I wonder if Dearness 

1701
01:26:08,760 --> 01:26:12,440
Johnson is actually draftable. 
Because, see, I think Dearness 

1702
01:26:12,440 --> 01:26:15,960
Johnson is he's just Dari Ugo 
Bawale. 

1703
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,320
No, I think he's he's more like 
Khalil Herbert or something like

1704
01:26:19,360 --> 01:26:21,160
he's. 
Because he can actually rush. 

1705
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:22,960
You can actually. 
You can run touchdowns. 

1706
01:26:23,040 --> 01:26:26,480
Yeah, he can run a little. 
No, not not he can't. 

1707
01:26:26,480 --> 01:26:31,200
Come on, Come on. 
Come on, guys. 

1708
01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:32,520
Dearness. 
Johnson. 

1709
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:35,000
He's been good. 
Like, I know he runs a 4740, but

1710
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,480
he's been pretty good. 
Every time he hits the field, he

1711
01:26:37,480 --> 01:26:39,920
actually like can generate. 
You don't remember that Thursday

1712
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:41,480
night game when Durnis Johnson 
played? 

1713
01:26:41,480 --> 01:26:43,040
And probably. 
Good like 4. 

1714
01:26:43,080 --> 01:26:47,000
Years ago, Sam, I don't think 
I'm ever gonna forget that game.

1715
01:26:47,000 --> 01:26:49,080
I was like, yeah, he's this guy.
Yeah. 

1716
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:52,200
He was so good. 
Name a player who's had more 

1717
01:26:52,200 --> 01:26:54,440
free agency dollars spent on 
them. 

1718
01:26:54,440 --> 01:26:57,160
Ever in the history of fantasy 
football, who's never been in a 

1719
01:26:57,160 --> 01:26:58,840
starting lineup than Di Ernest 
Johnson? 

1720
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,920
I mean, how many $1.00 Fab bids 
did you make on Di Ernest 

1721
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:05,720
Johnson last year alone? 
At least he probably made a lot.

1722
01:27:05,960 --> 01:27:09,840
Yeah. 
But he overtook tank like, 

1723
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:11,880
pretty quickly last. 
Year like, yeah, I don't, I 

1724
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:14,400
don't think I'm not putting that
as a ribbon in his cap. 

1725
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:16,960
No, I'm not either. 
It's a ribbon as his cap. 

1726
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:19,800
If the task is overtake, tank 
OK. 

1727
01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,520
The more the more important 
question is Keelan Robinson was 

1728
01:27:25,520 --> 01:27:31,120
in Alabama to Texas transfer who
really barely played but was 

1729
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:35,920
good at the combine. 
Was a very good kick and punt 

1730
01:27:35,920 --> 01:27:39,920
returner in college. 
Probably made the probably made 

1731
01:27:39,920 --> 01:27:43,560
the team for that, but given 
that the other guys are Tank 

1732
01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:47,040
Bigsby and Uranus Johnson, isn't
there a chance that the guy we 

1733
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,760
know is going to be on the 53 to
return kicks might just be the 

1734
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,840
running back too. 
I mean how he couldn't be worse 

1735
01:27:52,840 --> 01:27:55,600
than Tank Bigsby. 
Yeah, I mean, it's a great, it's

1736
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:57,800
a great point. 
He had 12. 

1737
01:27:57,800 --> 01:28:00,480
Carries as a fifth year senior. 
I'm literally getting ready to 

1738
01:28:00,480 --> 01:28:04,480
learn Kela Robinson. 
Hey, 12 carries, but three 

1739
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:08,080
touchdowns, buddy. 
He played he played in 13 games 

1740
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:11,000
as a fifth year senior and had 
12 carries look. 

1741
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:13,320
I'm not telling you. 
I mean, he had. 

1742
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:19,160
He had about as many rushing 
yards in colleges as as Isaac 

1743
01:28:19,160 --> 01:28:21,480
Yirendo. 
Yeah, that's true. 

1744
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:27,240
Yeah, but he came in the league 
this year, so he cared next 

1745
01:28:27,240 --> 01:28:28,560
year. 
I can tell Karendo if you tell 

1746
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:29,880
Karendo next year, people would 
be like. 

1747
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:33,440
Oh, oh. 
Keild Robinson is Keild Robinson

1748
01:28:33,440 --> 01:28:34,720
is a rookie, too. 
He's a. 

1749
01:28:34,720 --> 01:28:35,160
He's a. 
Rookie. 

1750
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,160
Oh, is he? 
Oh, OK, I thought. 

1751
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:39,400
He was. 
And and weirdly, weirdly, he was

1752
01:28:39,400 --> 01:28:41,320
a fifth round pick too. 
We were just talking about 

1753
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,280
Rasheen Ali. 
He was a fifth round pick too. 

1754
01:28:43,480 --> 01:28:46,080
Oh. 
I mean this. 

1755
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,240
This might be the guy. 
Davis might have just found the 

1756
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:48,760
guy. 
Why are we? 

1757
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:51,920
I'm I I. 
This guy, he He's a kicker 

1758
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:53,560
Turner. 
Come on, he's a kicker Turner. 

1759
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,520
OK, but Raheem Moser was a 
kicker. 

1760
01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,800
Turner. 
Raheem Moser was A at Marine 

1761
01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:01,520
Moser was a fucking track 
athlete at IUPUI, All right? 

1762
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:05,640
Like guys who get to the NFL, 
it's it just, it does not 

1763
01:29:05,640 --> 01:29:07,640
matter, right? 
Like running backs, It just 

1764
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,040
doesn't matter if they get the 
ball. 

1765
01:29:09,880 --> 01:29:12,400
It's why arguing about Gerenda 
versus Schrader based on their 

1766
01:29:12,400 --> 01:29:14,920
college stats is stupid, because
it just at the end of the day, 

1767
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,440
it's going to be like whatever 
Kyle Shanahan decides. 

1768
01:29:17,840 --> 01:29:22,680
Yeah, I mean, but that it's it's
not quite that true because like

1769
01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:24,880
you have to impress the coaches 
to get on the field. 

1770
01:29:25,360 --> 01:29:27,600
Like there's there is some skill
element even though it's not 

1771
01:29:27,600 --> 01:29:30,080
like as a skill based position 
as wide receiver or whatever. 

1772
01:29:30,480 --> 01:29:34,400
But I do. 
I think we want to like we want 

1773
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:37,360
to avoid writing off guys when 
they're completely free and 

1774
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:40,360
we're like huh it feels like 
someone could have this is I 

1775
01:29:40,360 --> 01:29:42,120
mean Kyron right. 
The write off thing was his 

1776
01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,640
athleticism. 
Oh, knowing that he's so 

1777
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:46,640
unathletic he couldn't possibly 
do anything right. 

1778
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,520
It's like no, I mean yeah he is 
actually really unathletic. 

1779
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:52,720
But like the opportunity is is 
presenting itself and there are 

1780
01:29:52,720 --> 01:29:54,600
some elements to his profile 
that are interesting. 

1781
01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,280
He was very productive in in 
College in Kyron's case and the 

1782
01:29:58,280 --> 01:29:59,760
team loved him. 
So I don't know. 

1783
01:29:59,760 --> 01:30:02,640
I mean, I think we should keep 
an open mind basically when the 

1784
01:30:02,640 --> 01:30:07,040
situation is this uncertain. 
I mean, he's basically, he's 

1785
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:10,960
basically young Dari Ogun 
Bawale. 

1786
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:13,960
Like this is a guy who like had 
multiple like punt blocks and 

1787
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:16,320
stuff in college. 
Like that's the type, that's the

1788
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:22,880
type of guy you're investing in.
442 forty 125 inch broad jump 

1789
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:29,480
58191 So he's he's is this the 
new who is who's the converted 

1790
01:30:29,480 --> 01:30:30,960
wide receiver that played 
running back for them Davis. 

1791
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,720
Oh, Jamal Agnew. 
No, no, no, no. 

1792
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,200
Jamal Agnew was a a defensive 
backward of the wide receiver. 

1793
01:30:39,400 --> 01:30:40,800
Yes, Jamal Agnew. 
The what? 

1794
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,520
No, no, no. 
This is like this is like 2017 

1795
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:44,720
or. 
Dinard, Robinson. 

1796
01:30:44,720 --> 01:30:47,120
Dinard Robinson He. 
Was a quarterback. 

1797
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:48,680
He was a quarterback. 
Quarterback. 

1798
01:30:48,840 --> 01:30:49,800
Yeah, that's right. 
Yeah. 

1799
01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:52,040
Yeah. 
I mean option. 

1800
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,520
Was Dinard Robinson? 
Well, Dinard. 

1801
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:57,840
You guarantee would have been a 
good NFL player, but he couldn't

1802
01:30:57,840 --> 01:30:59,400
put on enough weight. 
He was too small. 

1803
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:03,240
Yeah, well, I'm keeping an open 
mind with this one. 

1804
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,080
I really. 
Don't big watch list I I like. 

1805
01:31:05,440 --> 01:31:07,920
Big Watch list. 
I mean, this is, this is the 

1806
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,200
same sweat as Sion Vaki is like,
we got to see what position he 

1807
01:31:11,200 --> 01:31:12,880
gets a list of that on the depth
chart. 

1808
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:14,800
Like we need to. 
We need to know. 

1809
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:17,640
Like I need to look up like Jags
OTAs. 

1810
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:20,800
Like, is this guy with with the 
fucking defensive backs or is he

1811
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,720
with the running backs? 
I just. 

1812
01:31:22,720 --> 01:31:25,280
I just had a little mini sweat 
making sure Keelan Robinson was 

1813
01:31:25,280 --> 01:31:26,680
in the underdog player pool. 
Is in the. 

1814
01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,480
Clear pool he is, yeah. 
No, Speaking of guys not in the 

1815
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:32,480
player pool, we got to jump back
to the Chiefs 1. 

1816
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:36,200
Davis, we skipped it while you 
were gone, I think. 

1817
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:39,840
I I hate to say it. 
Ch is He might be the best 18th 

1818
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:40,920
round pick on the. 
Board he is the. 

1819
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:42,760
Best He's a pretty good 
eighteenth round pick. 

1820
01:31:43,160 --> 01:31:47,160
He's gonna be, he's gonna be the
RB2 like he actually got, he got

1821
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:50,760
guaranteed money like he didn't 
get one of those fake contracts 

1822
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,000
like he actually got like a 
million and a half guaranteed. 

1823
01:31:53,880 --> 01:31:55,360
That's that's backup running 
back. 

1824
01:31:55,360 --> 01:31:58,400
Money. 
You know who he is now he's he's

1825
01:31:58,440 --> 01:32:01,000
Sumaj P right now, an 
overdrafted guy. 

1826
01:32:01,200 --> 01:32:04,560
The expectations were too high 
on him early and now he's just 

1827
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,240
going to be for the next five 
years. 

1828
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:09,640
He's going to go around and be a
passing down back for whatever 

1829
01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:11,200
team. 
The young guy we're excited 

1830
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,720
about is they're just signing a 
one year deal. 

1831
01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:19,080
Get in the way. 
He's like Sumaj P Ron without 

1832
01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:21,520
Sumaj P Ron's only good trait, 
which is size. 

1833
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,720
He's He could be Jamal Williams,
too, Like, it's one. 

1834
01:32:24,720 --> 01:32:26,600
Of these guys. 
God, please. 

1835
01:32:27,000 --> 01:32:31,400
Habeas Murray, Zach Moss, The 
current iteration of Zach Moss. 

1836
01:32:31,400 --> 01:32:32,600
The current iteration of Zach 
Moss. 

1837
01:32:32,680 --> 01:32:36,840
Yeah, he's totally, by the way, 
this, this Rhys Sammott guy, I 

1838
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:38,440
mean. 
He's 6. 

1839
01:32:38,640 --> 01:32:42,600
Three, yeah. 
He's 6 three guys this he he's 

1840
01:32:42,600 --> 01:32:45,360
like at best I think he's 
probably like Cordell Patterson 

1841
01:32:45,360 --> 01:32:47,680
or something like kind of like 
design the like he's like he's. 

1842
01:32:48,120 --> 01:32:51,960
A wide receiver. 
Amiko Amiko thinks they signed 

1843
01:32:51,960 --> 01:32:54,640
him to be. 
Amiko thinks they signed him to 

1844
01:32:54,640 --> 01:32:55,920
just be like a special teams 
guy. 

1845
01:32:55,920 --> 01:32:59,760
I think he's the thickest guy 
this well and like a punt gunner

1846
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,000
and like a blocker. 
Like just like, you know, like 

1847
01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,680
total Andy Reid. 
Steve Spagnolo. 

1848
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:08,600
Just like just weirdness. 
Now Kiante Ingram got waved. 

1849
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:11,760
Not that not that it really 
matters The the chat keeps going

1850
01:33:11,760 --> 01:33:15,640
insane about Imani Bailey. 
Just do yourself a favor. 

1851
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,200
Go look at Imani, Bailey's 
player profiler. 

1852
01:33:19,200 --> 01:33:23,040
Just go just go treat yourself 
to what Imani Bailey did at the 

1853
01:33:23,040 --> 01:33:25,520
combine. 
I think some people in the chat 

1854
01:33:25,520 --> 01:33:29,160
could beat Imani Bailey's Peter,
like Peter Oberzett could beat 

1855
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,720
Imani Bailey's combine and 
everything, every number he 

1856
01:33:31,720 --> 01:33:35,240
could beat. 
It's an Eric Prince. 

1857
01:33:35,520 --> 01:33:36,480
It's an Eric Prince. 
Dad. 

1858
01:33:36,480 --> 01:33:38,240
Davis What's the latest on the 
Generic Prince? 

1859
01:33:38,240 --> 01:33:40,800
Speed the the third guy is just 
not going to matter this year. 

1860
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,880
Pacheco is going to get a lot of
work and Chapter is going to be 

1861
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:50,040
the the spell back. 
Got it, McKinnon. 

1862
01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:52,000
Mckinnon's not coming back for 
one last ride. 

1863
01:33:52,000 --> 01:33:55,680
You don't think? 
I mean, he barely was like 

1864
01:33:55,680 --> 01:33:57,280
playing for them last. 
Year pretty. 

1865
01:33:57,560 --> 01:34:01,360
Done right He he like, He like 
wasn't playing and then suffered

1866
01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:04,920
a core muscle injury and then 
like try to get back for the 

1867
01:34:04,920 --> 01:34:06,600
Super Bowl. 
Like, we haven't even heard the 

1868
01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:09,560
chatter like last offseason they
were like, yeah, you know, we'd 

1869
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:11,680
like to have him back and they 
just haven't even mentioned him 

1870
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:17,000
this year. 
Man $1.3 million guaranteed for 

1871
01:34:17,720 --> 01:34:18,920
Clyde Edwards. 
Ilayer like that, it's. 

1872
01:34:19,040 --> 01:34:20,080
Kind of a lot. 
It's kind of a. 

1873
01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:21,040
Lot. 
It's kind of a lot it's it's 

1874
01:34:21,040 --> 01:34:24,800
enough where you're like not 
cutting him for you know Deneric

1875
01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,360
Prince or whatever. 
Like you're he's the RB2 and 

1876
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:30,000
like you're not. 
You don't have Clyde Edwards, 

1877
01:34:30,000 --> 01:34:33,680
ilayer on the roster to not be 
RB2 and. 

1878
01:34:33,960 --> 01:34:37,000
That's the So that's The thing 
is there's literally no reason 

1879
01:34:37,000 --> 01:34:39,320
on earth to resign the guy 
who's, like kind of like a 

1880
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:43,280
signal of failure for your 
organization if you don't like, 

1881
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,880
just need a guy who like kind of
knows the system, knows the past

1882
01:34:46,880 --> 01:34:50,360
protections, knows the 
quarterback like it's it's just 

1883
01:34:50,360 --> 01:34:53,840
all very obvious. 
Yeah, he's a good, good pick. 

1884
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,520
I don't get why he goes this 
late, 'cause we're. 

1885
01:34:57,600 --> 01:34:58,280
Bored dude. 
We're. 

1886
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,240
We're bored. 
No, I I had a Bo even like I'm 

1887
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:03,520
just he's so boring. 
But you're right. 

1888
01:35:03,520 --> 01:35:05,920
I mean he's just he is the RB2 
there so we should draft him so.

1889
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:07,720
And The thing is, he doesn't 
need to be good like on the 

1890
01:35:07,720 --> 01:35:09,320
Chiefs. 
We've seen him do it. 

1891
01:35:09,320 --> 01:35:12,120
Was it two years ago where he 
started the season just like red

1892
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:14,200
hot on touchdowns? 
Or was that even last year? 

1893
01:35:14,200 --> 01:35:16,160
Now now I'm freaking. 
It was two years ago. 

1894
01:35:16,200 --> 01:35:20,080
He scored 20 points in week 5th,
16 This last year. 

1895
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:24,680
His only start. 
The only game, Yeah, no one 

1896
01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,600
needs to be good. 
There was the whole thesis for 

1897
01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:30,080
why he was a first round pick as
a rookie anyway, Was it doesn't 

1898
01:35:30,080 --> 01:35:33,320
matter who's good in the 
backfield, like you guys 

1899
01:35:33,360 --> 01:35:34,480
remember? 
Not Damien. 

1900
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,200
Damien, I think was good. 
Do you remember Daryl Williams? 

1901
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:39,080
Daryl Williams. 
Was most. 

1902
01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:42,400
Dare, Ogumbuwale asked running 
back ever, and he would just 

1903
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:45,320
score 2 touchdowns every week. 
Do you guys remember the Black 

1904
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,360
Mirror episode where they like, 
there's like soldiers and 

1905
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,840
they've got like the they they 
have like something in their 

1906
01:35:50,840 --> 01:35:52,840
eyes, like it changes. 
Like their perception changes. 

1907
01:35:52,840 --> 01:35:55,120
What you're. 
Seeing they take Imagine like 

1908
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:58,120
when we find because we've had 
one of those on with CEH called 

1909
01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:01,800
the Joe Burrow LSU offense with 
Jamar Jason Justin Deverson and 

1910
01:36:01,800 --> 01:36:04,800
then we then we just traded it 
for another one called Patrick 

1911
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,480
Mahomes and the fucking Chiefs. 
Imagine when we finally take it 

1912
01:36:08,480 --> 01:36:13,360
off. 
Clyde Clyde over to Lair playing

1913
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:17,160
in I don't know What's a, what's
a funny one He he ends up being 

1914
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:20,360
the third down, passing back for
like the Chargers with Justin 

1915
01:36:20,360 --> 01:36:26,640
Herbert and and and Gus Edwards 
and it's just like, oh God this.

1916
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:32,840
Is a dark episode. 
I've I've I thought of a good 

1917
01:36:32,840 --> 01:36:35,560
feature for underdog. 
They should have the ability to 

1918
01:36:35,560 --> 01:36:38,520
like change a player's name in 
the player pool. 

1919
01:36:38,520 --> 01:36:42,800
Like I I want to change CHS name
to something else so when I 

1920
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:46,520
draft him I won't think of CEHI.
Just got Clyde, yeah. 

1921
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:50,880
Yeah, like there needs to be a 
way because that even though I'm

1922
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,640
saying he's a good pick, like 
it's still gonna be so hard to 

1923
01:36:53,640 --> 01:36:56,280
click him. 
Just put a little R next to him 

1924
01:36:56,280 --> 01:36:57,200
so you can pretend he's a 
rookie. 

1925
01:36:57,200 --> 01:37:00,040
What if you just? 
No, take his picture away so I 

1926
01:37:00,040 --> 01:37:01,040
can pretend he's a. 
Rookie name. 

1927
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,680
What if you pretended his name 
was deneric Prints. 

1928
01:37:04,480 --> 01:37:07,400
I would have 90% of them if I 
pretended his name was deneric 

1929
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:09,240
prints. 
Yeah, I actually think that's 

1930
01:37:09,240 --> 01:37:11,360
something we could get done. 
Josh Downs doesn't have a 

1931
01:37:11,360 --> 01:37:14,960
picture for some reason, so why 
doesn't Clyde Evanzi layer not 

1932
01:37:14,960 --> 01:37:16,880
have a picture? 
We should just move the doctor 

1933
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,680
to remove Clyburn's everybody 
layer's picture. 

1934
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,800
If he was just Casey RB2, like 
someone just put in chat, if he 

1935
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:25,680
was just Casey RB2, he'd be he'd
go ahead and Marshawn Lloyd. 

1936
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,560
Honest to God, he would. 
He would he. 

1937
01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,480
Would, Yeah. 
No, I've got to. 

1938
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,840
I do. 
I love the SO, the Rashi rice 

1939
01:37:34,840 --> 01:37:35,840
and the Clatter Ritzalaire 
thing. 

1940
01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:39,000
It's like the only time that me 
being a biased Homer allows me 

1941
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:41,840
to make the correct gambling 
decision, whereas most of the 

1942
01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:43,560
time it's me doing the wrong 
thing. 

1943
01:37:43,720 --> 01:37:46,680
But I love when I get to make 
the emotional decision and it's 

1944
01:37:46,680 --> 01:37:48,680
actually right. 
It's it's amazing. 

1945
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:50,320
That's beautiful. 
Yeah. 

1946
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,600
I just hate that I became a best
ball D Gen. after the Patriots 

1947
01:37:54,640 --> 01:37:56,520
stopped being good. 
Would have been, would have been

1948
01:37:56,520 --> 01:38:01,680
nice to have best ball like 50. 
Yeah, Well, I mean, even though 

1949
01:38:01,680 --> 01:38:05,480
the end of the Brady era was not
that fantasy friendly, it would 

1950
01:38:05,480 --> 01:38:08,400
have been like a long it would 
have been, we're talking like 

1951
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:10,840
8-9 years ago when it would have
been real winning. 

1952
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,920
It would have been really good. 
The Randy Moss year, That would 

1953
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:15,520
have been great. 
All right, let's hit the hit on 

1954
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:19,160
the last couple of these. 
Do we want to talk Raiders? 

1955
01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:23,240
I feel like we're kind of a 
little biased maybe on this one,

1956
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:24,600
but. 
I can't, I can't. 

1957
01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,400
I can't give you guys a good 
answer here. 

1958
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:28,600
Yeah, I'm. 
I'm not clicking any of these 

1959
01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:32,720
guys, even though is Amir White 
definitely not one of the 

1960
01:38:32,720 --> 01:38:35,160
strongest strong starters in the
league? 

1961
01:38:35,160 --> 01:38:39,280
But I don't know, man, like what
do what do you win when you win 

1962
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,080
with this one? 
Cran you have any thoughts? 

1963
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:48,320
I mean, it's not Madison. 
There's no point in clicking. 

1964
01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:52,560
Alexander Madison lobby I've 
been intrigued by because I 

1965
01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,960
thought he was actually like a 
pretty solid prospect 

1966
01:38:57,240 --> 01:39:00,760
specifically because of the pass
catching stuff like he he pops 

1967
01:39:00,760 --> 01:39:02,880
for me now. 
He pops his left fourth round 

1968
01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,040
run he pick type. 
So not like off the charts but 

1969
01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:09,000
he was a total backfield 
dominator. 1.81 yards per out 

1970
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:13,160
run is really strong not like 
quite like elite elite stuff 

1971
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:16,400
like Gibbs or Rashad White or 
whatever but very good and and 

1972
01:39:16,440 --> 01:39:22,160
he ran a ton of routes 24 routes
per game that's yeah that's like

1973
01:39:22,160 --> 01:39:25,640
a nice combo for dude to come in
who's pretty clearly I think 

1974
01:39:25,640 --> 01:39:28,760
going to be like special teams 
and receiving as his role And 

1975
01:39:28,760 --> 01:39:30,240
then Alexander Madison should 
be. 

1976
01:39:30,440 --> 01:39:34,200
I mean Alexander Madison peaked 
as a good RB2. 

1977
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,400
He got the chance to be in RB 
one. 

1978
01:39:36,400 --> 01:39:38,720
It was a disaster. 
He joins a new team. 

1979
01:39:39,520 --> 01:39:43,760
I think Laobe could pretty 
easily be the RB2 and he catches

1980
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:46,400
passes. 
But I don't know. 

1981
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:49,120
Yeah, we're probably. 
This also does sort of have a 

1982
01:39:49,120 --> 01:39:50,920
little bit of a rookie fever 
vibe, doesn't it? 

1983
01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:55,040
It it does a little. 
And it's just like, maybe I'm 

1984
01:39:55,040 --> 01:39:58,280
wrong on this, but was Dylan 
lobby not like a pretty bad 

1985
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:01,160
rusher at UNH? 
Or at least not like a good one.

1986
01:40:01,920 --> 01:40:03,480
Yeah, He was not a. 
He was not. 

1987
01:40:03,560 --> 01:40:06,000
AI think the film guys 
especially really did not like 

1988
01:40:06,000 --> 01:40:08,520
him as a runner. 
That's what I worry about. 

1989
01:40:08,520 --> 01:40:09,720
That's what I worry about. 
It's like if. 

1990
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:13,040
People said that but but 
Bruegler was like numbers. 

1991
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:15,720
Are OK. 
Bruegler was really high on him,

1992
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,760
and in The Beast he was like 
like the the, the, the. 

1993
01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,160
The Beast stuff is like very 
glowing. 

1994
01:40:21,480 --> 01:40:24,600
I mean, he led all of college 
football in in total yards if 

1995
01:40:24,600 --> 01:40:27,400
you include kick and bum 
returns. 

1996
01:40:28,240 --> 01:40:32,080
He's he's elusive. 
That's a big if. 

1997
01:40:33,080 --> 01:40:34,680
Yeah, what are you, What are you
doing? 

1998
01:40:36,480 --> 01:40:37,440
Who includes? 
That. 

1999
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,600
You don't include that. 
I do. 

2000
01:40:44,240 --> 01:40:46,840
That almost got by me because I 
was looking at his elusive 

2001
01:40:46,840 --> 01:40:54,880
rating. 
I mean, look, here's the thing. 

2002
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,240
It's a fun, it's a it's a fun 
pick. 

2003
01:40:58,440 --> 01:41:01,560
All he has to do to be fantasy 
relevant is to beat out Amir 

2004
01:41:01,560 --> 01:41:04,880
Abdullah for passing downs and 
that is not that high of a 

2005
01:41:04,880 --> 01:41:10,200
hurdle. 
Yeah, I mean, I guess rookie 

2006
01:41:10,200 --> 01:41:12,440
Brandon Bolden isn't isn't the 
worst thing in the world. 

2007
01:41:13,400 --> 01:41:16,160
Brandon, you you joke. 
Brandon Bolden has had fantasy 

2008
01:41:16,160 --> 01:41:17,480
relevant. 
He actually has. 

2009
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,480
He's been, like, wildly fantasy 
relevant over. 

2010
01:41:20,480 --> 01:41:22,160
Like multiple times. 
Multiple. 

2011
01:41:22,160 --> 01:41:26,000
Times it's like, so we just did 
the whole Jaleel McLaughlin bit.

2012
01:41:26,920 --> 01:41:30,160
I mean, if if you told me Lauby 
was on the Raiders roster week 

2013
01:41:30,160 --> 01:41:33,640
one, like he just was on the 
like not even the 53 like active

2014
01:41:33,640 --> 01:41:38,240
week one, I I might take more 
Lauby receptions than McLaughlin

2015
01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:42,040
Really. 
Because if he makes the roster, 

2016
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:44,360
yeah, it's it's in a very 
specific role. 

2017
01:41:44,480 --> 01:41:46,440
Like they know exactly what he's
making it for. 

2018
01:41:46,560 --> 01:41:49,400
The the problem is just the the 
wide receivers and tight ends 

2019
01:41:49,400 --> 01:41:52,480
are going to take up such a huge
share of the pass catching in 

2020
01:41:52,520 --> 01:41:55,680
Las Vegas compared to Denver. 
I mean that That's where I think

2021
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:58,720
I would disagree is that they're
not going to be scheming out the

2022
01:41:58,720 --> 01:42:01,360
pass game through the running 
backs in this offense. 

2023
01:42:01,360 --> 01:42:03,160
I don't, I don't think. 
Yeah. 

2024
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:06,880
No, that's true. 
I mean it's it's probably 

2025
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:09,120
Minshew or Connell. 
So they'll be they'll be dumping

2026
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:12,400
off some so. 
I mean Minshew. 

2027
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,320
Minshew is a real dump off 
artist. 

2028
01:42:14,600 --> 01:42:17,560
Yeah, I just think they'll be 
dumping off to Jacoby Myers and 

2029
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:21,880
Brock Bowers and Michael Mayer 
and Trey Tucker and all these 

2030
01:42:21,880 --> 01:42:24,360
guys. 
But I see what you're saying 

2031
01:42:24,800 --> 01:42:27,160
with the quarterback fit. 
It's not bad for a pass catching

2032
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:29,480
running back. 
I think these these next two 

2033
01:42:29,480 --> 01:42:32,200
teams, I think these are to me 
more interesting watch list 

2034
01:42:32,200 --> 01:42:34,000
candidates. 
Cause The Jets and Eagles both 

2035
01:42:34,000 --> 01:42:38,200
project to be playoff teams this
year in the NFL, and no one's 

2036
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:40,040
really drafting the running back
twos. 

2037
01:42:40,040 --> 01:42:44,160
We'll start here with The Jets. 
I am this you're you're drafting

2038
01:42:44,400 --> 01:42:44,800
Braylon. 
You're. 

2039
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:46,080
Drafting Braylon Allen the whole
time. 

2040
01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:48,640
The thesis, not now the. 
Thesis. 

2041
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,120
The thesis did not change, bro. 
He's better than a Band of 

2042
01:42:51,120 --> 01:42:53,640
Canada. 
I kind of like Isaiah Davis, but

2043
01:42:53,640 --> 01:42:57,280
like there's not going to be a 
like a camp competition between 

2044
01:42:57,560 --> 01:42:58,720
IS. 
Is he better than a band of 

2045
01:42:58,720 --> 01:43:00,960
Canada? 
This team might run a four 7. 

2046
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:02,840
Who cares, bro? 
He's big. 

2047
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:05,720
He's strong. 
Braylon Allen is what they 

2048
01:43:05,720 --> 01:43:08,440
wanted to do with Dalvin Cook. 
Remember them just running 

2049
01:43:08,440 --> 01:43:12,400
Dalvin Cook in the line time 
after time after time last year 

2050
01:43:12,400 --> 01:43:14,520
is like like, oh, Dalvin Cook. 
It's crazy. 

2051
01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:18,040
He was on the team Dalvin Cook 
last season for The Jets. 

2052
01:43:18,240 --> 01:43:24,040
Got 67 carries before they waved
them and 20 targets. 

2053
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,880
Like, obviously Breece ended up 
getting a ton and they ended up 

2054
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:29,320
benching Dalvin Cook for Michael
Carter. 

2055
01:43:29,560 --> 01:43:32,320
But and. 
Then cutting Carter. 

2056
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:35,640
Cutting cart there there is. 
There is. 

2057
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:41,600
I I I would say conservatively 
about 100 rushes and 35 running 

2058
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:45,480
back targets available behind 
Breece and I think those will be

2059
01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:48,680
valuable targets, especially 
because Rodgers has always been 

2060
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:50,840
a cheat code for running backs 
like running backs who play with

2061
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:57,360
Rodgers get tons of free points 
and I think Braylon Allen is 

2062
01:43:57,360 --> 01:43:59,000
good. 
No one else agrees with me, but 

2063
01:43:59,000 --> 01:44:02,280
my thesis remains. 
The same I don't disagree that 

2064
01:44:02,280 --> 01:44:05,600
Braylon Allen could be good. 
You're definitely higher on than

2065
01:44:05,600 --> 01:44:08,000
I am. 
But yeah, I also think Isaiah 

2066
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,680
Davis is kind of interesting. 
I do too. 

2067
01:44:11,160 --> 01:44:13,280
And I thought a Band of Canada 
was a pretty interesting 

2068
01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:16,200
prospect last year. 
Who, to my eye, looked pretty 

2069
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:18,000
good when he was out there. 
We don't have like, any of the 

2070
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,720
advanced stuff 'cause he. 
Sounded like an attitude thing 

2071
01:44:20,720 --> 01:44:22,560
with him. 
It sounded like it sounded like 

2072
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,840
the coaches were not the if I if
I remember correctly that could 

2073
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:28,120
be maybe I'm slandering him for 
no good reason. 

2074
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:32,160
But in my in my memory that is 
what happened when when the 

2075
01:44:32,160 --> 01:44:36,160
Dalvin Cook stuff came out, it 
was it was it seemed to be like 

2076
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:39,440
personality based. 
Maybe I'm slandering him for no 

2077
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:41,680
good reason is up there with. 
Obviously. 

2078
01:44:41,720 --> 01:44:44,640
Well, I I can't. 
I would. 

2079
01:44:44,760 --> 01:44:46,120
You want me to go you? 
I can't. 

2080
01:44:46,120 --> 01:44:49,200
I can't. 
Yes, I mean if you can find it, 

2081
01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:51,200
be great. 
All right, I'll go, I'll go 

2082
01:44:51,200 --> 01:44:54,100
dive. 
I'll go dive through four pre 

2083
01:44:54,100 --> 01:44:57,000
season notes from the fucking 
New York Jets last offseason. 

2084
01:44:58,480 --> 01:44:59,840
I'm excited to hear what you 
find. 

2085
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:05,400
Is he a Bannacanda attitude? 
I have. 

2086
01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,160
I've mentioned the dynasty 
tearing of these guys. 

2087
01:45:08,600 --> 01:45:11,160
A band of Canda, Braille and 
Allen both come out as third 

2088
01:45:11,160 --> 01:45:13,040
round picks to me. 
And Isaiah Davis is a fourth 

2089
01:45:13,040 --> 01:45:15,400
round pick. 
So to me I'm like here's three 

2090
01:45:15,400 --> 01:45:17,360
dudes. 
They're all kind of interesting.

2091
01:45:17,360 --> 01:45:21,560
They all have Fred flags. 
You know a band of Canda you'd 

2092
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:24,880
say is probably the least likely
given that he had a a shot and 

2093
01:45:24,880 --> 01:45:27,800
then they drafted 2 dudes. 
So they so he's it's probably 

2094
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:32,760
not him, but it could be Davis. 
It's not a 0% chance to be a 

2095
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:37,240
band of Canda who's actually got
some athleticism, unlike Allen. 

2096
01:45:37,680 --> 01:45:39,960
So I don't know. 
I just, I think these are all 

2097
01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,240
watch lists guys and we see who 
the RB2 is and we draft that 

2098
01:45:42,240 --> 01:45:44,040
too. 
But I wouldn't put it at much 

2099
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:46,320
higher than like 40% that it's 
Allen. 

2100
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:48,920
Yeah, I think that's. 30 Yeah, I
think that's about right. 

2101
01:45:49,480 --> 01:45:52,520
I I think I put 30 because, you 
know, I think it's a third, a 

2102
01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:56,360
third, a third or maybe you want
to say 3535 thirty or something,

2103
01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:58,560
right? 
But I think, honestly, I don't. 

2104
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:01,560
I don't think The Jets know who 
their RBT was right now. 

2105
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:03,920
So this is, this is pure Walsh's
territory for me. 

2106
01:46:03,960 --> 01:46:04,680
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

2107
01:46:04,760 --> 01:46:10,280
Zach Zach Rosenblatt in most 
recent Jets roster Battle's 

2108
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:14,640
article says is the coaches do 
not trust is the Abana Canda 

2109
01:46:14,640 --> 01:46:17,680
which is code word for they 
think he's thick. 

2110
01:46:18,960 --> 01:46:21,760
Yeah. 
That's that's not great and it 

2111
01:46:21,760 --> 01:46:26,720
would make a lot of sense given 
how athletic he is and how 

2112
01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:29,400
explosive he is. 
And how bad their team is and 

2113
01:46:29,400 --> 01:46:31,400
they spent two picks on a 
running back when they already 

2114
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,400
have Breeze Hall like they like 
The Jets. 

2115
01:46:34,520 --> 01:46:37,840
The Jets are like seriously 
going to have to play like Jason

2116
01:46:37,840 --> 01:46:41,440
Brownlee as at wide receiver 
this next year. 

2117
01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:44,720
Like they have nothing and they 
are spending picks on running 

2118
01:46:44,720 --> 01:46:46,960
backs. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2119
01:46:46,960 --> 01:46:48,920
I mean, this is the thing we 
didn't even discuss. 

2120
01:46:48,920 --> 01:46:51,440
It obviously just comes down to 
who Aaron Rodgers wants in the 

2121
01:46:51,440 --> 01:46:53,040
field. 
So that's that's what we got to 

2122
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,520
figure out at some point this 
offseason. 

2123
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:59,040
Let's go to the Eagles here. 
Last one we have on this list, 

2124
01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:01,920
pretty muddled. 
I think it's basically down to 

2125
01:47:01,920 --> 01:47:06,640
Shipley and Kenny Gainwell, Todd
Davis, Price also lurking 

2126
01:47:06,640 --> 01:47:09,160
around. 
I wouldn't really put any any 

2127
01:47:09,160 --> 01:47:12,480
odds in him of winning it, but 
yeah, you guys have a a lien on 

2128
01:47:12,480 --> 01:47:14,560
Shipley versus Gainwell in 
Philadelphia. 

2129
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:20,040
Gainwell, I would put this one 
at like 50% gainwell. 

2130
01:47:20,480 --> 01:47:23,920
Yeah, gainwell, this this should
maybe be on the other list. 

2131
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:26,360
It's just gain, man. 
Gainwell's he's almost like 

2132
01:47:26,360 --> 01:47:29,920
Daria Goomba Wale like he's he's
just a snap eater. 

2133
01:47:29,920 --> 01:47:31,680
Who doesn't? 
Well, now, now he's Boston 

2134
01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,480
Scott. 
Now now it's it's, it's it's he 

2135
01:47:34,480 --> 01:47:36,760
gets to eat. 
Boston Scott snaps and just be 

2136
01:47:36,760 --> 01:47:38,640
out there 30% of the time. 
Not even. 

2137
01:47:38,640 --> 01:47:40,320
I don't even think he's a good 
pick, but. 

2138
01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:43,880
Like basically any running back 
stat you want to look at over 

2139
01:47:43,880 --> 01:47:46,720
the past three years, like Kenny
Gainwell's always ranking like 

2140
01:47:46,720 --> 01:47:51,160
close to dead last. 
Like he's just, he's just really

2141
01:47:51,160 --> 01:47:53,600
not good. 
But the Eagles like him, so I 

2142
01:47:53,600 --> 01:47:58,080
don't know. 
Yeah, and like, you know, you 

2143
01:47:58,080 --> 01:48:02,320
just there is kind of a thing 
with running back where for an 

2144
01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:06,800
RB2 there's something to be said
for a guy who you just throw out

2145
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:09,600
there and doesn't screw anything
up and he runs the play supposed

2146
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:11,960
to run and no one gets sacked or
whatever. 

2147
01:48:11,960 --> 01:48:15,560
Like they signed Saquon Barkley.
They clearly don't want to lean 

2148
01:48:15,560 --> 01:48:21,240
on Gainwell, but like if you 
have Saquon Barkley, like are 

2149
01:48:21,240 --> 01:48:23,520
you trying to like mix in a 
rookie behind him or you just 

2150
01:48:23,520 --> 01:48:25,600
like be like all right. 
And we know, we know Kenny 

2151
01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:27,440
Gamewell can do the job. 
So he it's his job. 

2152
01:48:29,000 --> 01:48:30,720
Where did will Shipley get 
drafted? 

2153
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,480
He was actually fourth round 
that that is kind of interesting

2154
01:48:33,480 --> 01:48:36,880
that I mean that's the same 
draft capital as Bucky Irving, 

2155
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:39,640
Ray Davis, guys that we're much 
more confident in. 

2156
01:48:40,320 --> 01:48:43,360
I I guess I'm curious, I I don't
have an answer to this question.

2157
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:46,640
Like what is it about Shipley 
that makes us so much less 

2158
01:48:46,640 --> 01:48:49,320
interested in him than someone 
like Davis Irving? 

2159
01:48:51,760 --> 01:48:56,000
I mean, I think he's like a 
slightly worse prospect by my 

2160
01:48:56,000 --> 01:48:58,880
stuff, but not. 
I was going to go with his. 

2161
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,680
His name kind of is kind of bad,
right? 

2162
01:49:01,760 --> 01:49:06,720
Will Shipley. 
I mean, yeah, he's a guy that 

2163
01:49:06,720 --> 01:49:10,240
like I know Sean Segal really 
liked, is like, you know, kind 

2164
01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:15,120
of the Devi side of things and 
was seen as this potential star.

2165
01:49:15,120 --> 01:49:17,800
And then it didn't really come 
together fully. 

2166
01:49:18,680 --> 01:49:21,240
He ran a bunch of routes. 
It's kind of like a passing down

2167
01:49:21,240 --> 01:49:25,320
guy, but he had a 0.953 yard 
sprout run, which is not. 

2168
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:30,080
It's not. 
And he he ended up in a a 

2169
01:49:30,080 --> 01:49:34,280
timeshare his final year in 
college which always that that 

2170
01:49:34,280 --> 01:49:37,600
to me always weirds when it's 
you end up in a timeshare your 

2171
01:49:37,600 --> 01:49:40,640
last year with a younger player 
that that's kind of. 

2172
01:49:40,640 --> 01:49:44,040
Always. 
It's like, what's going on there

2173
01:49:44,040 --> 01:49:46,880
that can't be like what? 
Like we this, this other random 

2174
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:49,480
guy we thought was better than 
you, that that's always weird. 

2175
01:49:49,720 --> 01:49:57,880
Yeah, no, I mean, but he does 
seem, he does seem to like be a 

2176
01:49:57,880 --> 01:50:00,280
maybe a little bit more high 
upside than a Ray Davis. 

2177
01:50:00,280 --> 01:50:03,440
You know, where it's like he's 
like if one of these guys was 

2178
01:50:03,440 --> 01:50:07,400
like a true star, who would not?
And I'm not talking about like, 

2179
01:50:07,800 --> 01:50:10,520
because they get like a bunch of
short goal line carries, but 

2180
01:50:10,520 --> 01:50:13,040
like, one of these dudes is 
like, oh shit, this dude's 

2181
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,400
really good. 
It's probably Shipley and not 

2182
01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:18,640
Davis, right? 
Probably. 

2183
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:22,040
And the other thing that's weird
about it is like to me the 

2184
01:50:22,040 --> 01:50:25,960
stylistic compliment to Sequon 
Barkley would be like the 

2185
01:50:25,960 --> 01:50:29,080
success rate guy, right? 
The guy who can like get the 

2186
01:50:29,080 --> 01:50:32,800
short yardage stuff and neither 
Shipley or Gainwell really 

2187
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:38,920
profile as that so. 
I think Gainwell kind of does or

2188
01:50:38,920 --> 01:50:40,680
does he not? 
Was his success rate horrendous?

2189
01:50:41,480 --> 01:50:44,280
I actually don't know. 
I just he strikes me more as 

2190
01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:45,400
like the pass catching 
archetype. 

2191
01:50:45,400 --> 01:50:47,840
I haven't really looked into the
success rate stuff on him. 

2192
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:48,600
I don't. 
Think he's. 

2193
01:50:48,640 --> 01:50:51,000
I don't think he's qualified in 
either year for the NFL. 

2194
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,560
Next Gen. stuff, so. 
Yeah, he's just bad, dude. 

2195
01:50:53,560 --> 01:50:55,240
He's he's just bad at 
everything, honestly. 

2196
01:50:55,240 --> 01:50:59,240
Like, look at his PFF rush grade
is like close to dead last. 

2197
01:50:59,240 --> 01:51:02,240
Even if you broaden it to like 
people with over 20 carries, 

2198
01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:06,280
like it's it's really bad. 
Oh, yeah, OK, I I wanna. 

2199
01:51:06,320 --> 01:51:06,720
Do. 
That. 

2200
01:51:08,240 --> 01:51:10,880
No. 
I I'm kind of intrigued. 

2201
01:51:11,440 --> 01:51:13,080
Shipley's watch list guy for me 
that. 

2202
01:51:13,520 --> 01:51:20,200
Makes sense but but yeah. 
We We've gotten 2 hours into ADP

2203
01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:23,560
chasing, and we've probably not 
touched on the number one 

2204
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:27,160
uncertain backfield to figure 
out given the amount of carries 

2205
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:30,120
and points available the the Los
Angeles Chargers. 

2206
01:51:30,680 --> 01:51:35,640
Yeah, we can go to that. 
I'm I'm playing it through Vidal

2207
01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:38,400
and Gus Edwards and I'm 
basically pretending JK Dobbins 

2208
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:39,280
doesn't exist. 
So. 

2209
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:42,240
I'm doing. 
I'm doing the same thing but 

2210
01:51:42,240 --> 01:51:43,160
like doing the. 
Same thing too. 

2211
01:51:43,600 --> 01:51:47,000
But but isn't there just like a 
pretty disastrous chance that 

2212
01:51:47,000 --> 01:51:51,760
we're? 
I sometimes see JK Dobbins go by

2213
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:53,640
and I'm like, that would really 
suck if if. 

2214
01:51:53,800 --> 01:51:56,680
He's. 
JK Dobb like imagine the fight. 

2215
01:51:56,680 --> 01:52:01,760
Like finally JK Dobbins gets 
healthy and he just stays 

2216
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:05,400
healthy and he just plays 17 
games and just shoves it. 

2217
01:52:06,080 --> 01:52:10,240
It's just the the one, like 
first year off the Achilles 

2218
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:12,160
tear. 
I'm just gonna need to have that

2219
01:52:12,160 --> 01:52:15,000
running back beat me before I 
ever bet on it at this point. 

2220
01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,840
Like it just seems like such a 
fact that the running back off 

2221
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:22,080
the Achilles tear is just such a
bad bet that. 

2222
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:24,720
Didn't it happen? 
Kind of beat us? 

2223
01:52:25,600 --> 01:52:26,880
No. 
We survived it. 

2224
01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,800
But he kind of beat us, right? 
Who did He didn't? 

2225
01:52:29,800 --> 01:52:33,120
Didn't he, like, completely lose
his job the next season? 

2226
01:52:33,120 --> 01:52:35,240
He came back for the playoffs. 
He came and like. 

2227
01:52:35,240 --> 01:52:37,760
He came back. 
He had that week, I think it was

2228
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:40,240
week 15 or 16 and. 
Some James James. 

2229
01:52:40,280 --> 01:52:44,040
James Robinson could have beaten
us, but then he. 

2230
01:52:44,400 --> 01:52:46,400
Yeah, I remember what you're 
talking about, Granny. 

2231
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:49,240
He was awful that year. 
Like basically was the worst 

2232
01:52:49,240 --> 01:52:52,160
pick on the board and then just 
randomly had a good week and 

2233
01:52:52,160 --> 01:52:53,640
like week. 
Yeah, no, I don't. 

2234
01:52:54,200 --> 01:52:57,560
I don't remember where he was 
drafted and if, if it was any 

2235
01:52:57,560 --> 01:53:00,080
with any capital whatsoever, 
then he didn't beat us because 

2236
01:53:00,080 --> 01:53:01,120
he had. 
He was like 1/5. 

2237
01:53:01,280 --> 01:53:02,760
He was like a fifth or fourth 
round. 

2238
01:53:03,280 --> 01:53:07,440
Then he didn't. 
Share But Week 16, he had 23 

2239
01:53:07,440 --> 01:53:11,480
carries, 118 yards, 3 
touchdowns, 2 receptions, 29 

2240
01:53:11,480 --> 01:53:15,760
yards through the air. 
So that would really fucking 

2241
01:53:15,760 --> 01:53:18,400
suck if it comes from JK Dobbins
at this price is my point. 

2242
01:53:18,600 --> 01:53:21,040
Not that we should ignore 
Achilles, but like. 

2243
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,720
It does make it's like and that 
was also yeah, who's? 

2244
01:53:25,960 --> 01:53:28,480
Who's not good? 
But Dobbins also meant like 

2245
01:53:28,760 --> 01:53:32,680
Dobbins never came back really 
from that the multi ligament ACL

2246
01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:37,200
tear either. 
Like you, you have to take so 

2247
01:53:37,200 --> 01:53:38,040
many hoops. 
What do you mean? 

2248
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:40,760
Didn't he tear his Achilles like
the first game of last year? 

2249
01:53:40,760 --> 01:53:45,160
So that's not that's not really 
fair like he well he came up 

2250
01:53:45,160 --> 01:53:47,400
with the multi ligament and then
tore his Achilles like the 

2251
01:53:47,400 --> 01:53:48,040
first. 
Game. 

2252
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:49,600
No. 
There was a full, full season in

2253
01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:54,000
between that Crane. 
Oh, you're right, you're right. 

2254
01:53:54,040 --> 01:53:57,560
Yeah, and he just was like out 
of the lineup and like, not very

2255
01:53:57,560 --> 01:53:58,240
good. 
I don't. 

2256
01:53:59,120 --> 01:53:59,400
Know. 
Yeah. 

2257
01:53:59,400 --> 01:54:03,320
He looked real gimpy that one 
game and he like, yeah, yeah, he

2258
01:54:03,320 --> 01:54:04,680
got the he got the surgery 
again. 

2259
01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:05,960
Yeah, you're right. 
There was a whole year. 

2260
01:54:07,120 --> 01:54:08,960
It would be like, if. 
Yeah, yeah. 

2261
01:54:09,000 --> 01:54:10,320
Go ahead. 
Yeah, no. 

2262
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:12,120
I was just gonna say like if 
Dobbins was literally like a 

2263
01:54:12,120 --> 01:54:15,880
eighteenth round pick, I 
wouldn't completely fade him 

2264
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:17,400
again. 
I don't want to just come back 

2265
01:54:17,400 --> 01:54:21,160
to like Tyler Algier and Antonio
Gibson for every every pick, but

2266
01:54:21,160 --> 01:54:24,280
it's just like, I don't know. 
I'm just not. 

2267
01:54:24,280 --> 01:54:26,200
I'm. 
I'm not gonna take JK Dobbins. 

2268
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,840
I just don't think a running 
back coming off in Achilles tear

2269
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:30,560
is gonna beat me. 
And there's running backs in 

2270
01:54:30,560 --> 01:54:33,520
that range that I think are just
pretty solid picks. 

2271
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,560
So Vidal's also right there. 
I don't know. 

2272
01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:41,120
Kamani Vidal sadly though would 
fit in really nice as the third 

2273
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:45,440
leg to the Justice Hill, Darwin 
Thompson, Kamani Vidal running 

2274
01:54:45,440 --> 01:54:48,360
backs to win in the seventh 
round of the FFPC main event and

2275
01:54:48,360 --> 01:54:51,520
then never had one startable 
fantasy game as a rookie. 

2276
01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:55,520
I just, I just sadly can can see
in my crystal ball and and see 

2277
01:54:55,520 --> 01:55:00,400
that trilogy being written. 
Yeah, what do you think? 

2278
01:55:00,400 --> 01:55:04,240
What do you think, JK Diamond's 
dead cap hat dead cap hit is 

2279
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:07,120
this year? 
When you're dealing with the 1st

2280
01:55:07,200 --> 01:55:09,400
$50,000, I know that's exactly 
right. 

2281
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:10,880
Yeah. 
I I know. 

2282
01:55:10,880 --> 01:55:13,240
I knew it. 
Yeah. 50,000. 

2283
01:55:14,000 --> 01:55:16,240
Yeah, you you can either win, 
you could. 

2284
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:18,880
JK Dobbins gets cut and wins one
puppy. 

2285
01:55:19,080 --> 01:55:20,960
Wins. 
Wins the puppy one. 

2286
01:55:21,360 --> 01:55:24,680
Yeah, slow drafted on the plane.
That that contract is like an 

2287
01:55:24,680 --> 01:55:27,520
extended tryout. 
Yeah, it's. 

2288
01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:29,920
Yeah, like he's not even on the 
team yet. 

2289
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:33,680
Yeah, he really. 
He really should be treated like

2290
01:55:33,680 --> 01:55:36,240
a camp invite or whatever. 
Yeah, it's like a camp invite 

2291
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:37,360
contract. 
Like it is. 

2292
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:40,880
Yeah. 
I don't know. 

2293
01:55:40,880 --> 01:55:44,280
I Vidal is normally somewhere 
I'd be like, what are we doing? 

2294
01:55:44,280 --> 01:55:46,720
Like this dude was what, he's a 
six round pick. 

2295
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:51,240
Very kind of whatever prospect. 
But like I'm sick of just like, 

2296
01:55:51,480 --> 01:55:53,800
I'm not gonna like, I'm just not
gonna do it. 

2297
01:55:53,800 --> 01:55:55,800
If if he's Damien Pierce, that's
enough. 

2298
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:59,800
If he's literally rookie season 
Damien Pierce, it's enough like 

2299
01:55:59,800 --> 01:56:02,160
he can he can come in here. 
He can take the job for a year. 

2300
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:06,280
You know if he if he's like a 
little worse than Pacheco, more 

2301
01:56:06,280 --> 01:56:09,680
than enough. 
Like the bar is just so low for 

2302
01:56:09,680 --> 01:56:11,480
what even has to be. 
I mean Gus Edwards. 

2303
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:14,800
Like I know Gus Edwards has been
somewhat efficient, but it tied 

2304
01:56:14,800 --> 01:56:17,640
to Lamar Jackson as a as A2 down
banger. 

2305
01:56:17,640 --> 01:56:20,640
Like yeah, you should probably 
be pretty efficient. 

2306
01:56:21,200 --> 01:56:22,920
I don't know if it's going to go
as well. 

2307
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:26,560
I mean you know Justin Herbert's
a good quarterback but he's not 

2308
01:56:26,560 --> 01:56:28,640
going to open up lanes the way 
Lamar Jackson did. 

2309
01:56:28,680 --> 01:56:31,480
So I think Videl, I mean, he 
could. 

2310
01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:34,640
He's a true like, you're 
swinging for a Homer or you're 

2311
01:56:34,640 --> 01:56:36,480
striking out. 
But the homer's real. 

2312
01:56:36,480 --> 01:56:38,800
Like, again, we probably don't 
find a Kyron Williams. 

2313
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:44,000
But if there's anyone who could 
be like a James Robinson, this 

2314
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,640
is this is the James Robinson 
architecture. 

2315
01:56:46,440 --> 01:56:50,160
And and Bull signal. 
We can't agree on how to 

2316
01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:52,560
pronounce his last name, just 
like we couldn't agree on how to

2317
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:54,880
pronounce a Jane's last name. 
That's right. 

2318
01:56:55,240 --> 01:56:58,320
Yeah, I think it is Videl, 
because keeps saying Videl. 

2319
01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:02,800
But yeah, I mean, remember the 
Jaguars that year we were into 

2320
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:06,600
Devon Azigbo and? 
Ryquil Armstead. 

2321
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:09,880
Ryquil Armstead. 
Ryquil Armstead, by the way. 

2322
01:57:09,880 --> 01:57:13,280
This is such inside fucking 
fantasy football history he 

2323
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,800
maybe could have been the guy. 
He got long COVID and was like 

2324
01:57:16,880 --> 01:57:18,680
in the hospital the whole 
season. 

2325
01:57:18,760 --> 01:57:22,000
Oh yeah. 
Isn't that fucking nuts? 

2326
01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:26,200
This is such a dumb game we play
and like, why do I even remember

2327
01:57:26,200 --> 01:57:26,600
that? 
But. 

2328
01:57:26,600 --> 01:57:30,560
It's actually so crazy that, so 
wait, it was Fournette got cut. 

2329
01:57:30,560 --> 01:57:31,960
That's what started the whole 
thing. 

2330
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:34,840
And then everyone was so 
confident it was either a Zig, 

2331
01:57:34,840 --> 01:57:37,320
Bow or Armstead. 
Like people weren't really 

2332
01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:41,200
talking about Robinson. 
James Robinson, even in even in 

2333
01:57:41,200 --> 01:57:45,200
main events like that, like were
taking place like as the season 

2334
01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,920
was starting, he was like a 
tenth round pick at the absolute

2335
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,280
earliest. 
Yeah, no, I mean if someone and 

2336
01:57:51,640 --> 01:57:54,680
John C in the chat asks how 
Hobbins Dobbins is not the home 

2337
01:57:54,680 --> 01:57:57,080
run, especially at the lowest 
ADPI think. 

2338
01:57:57,160 --> 01:57:59,760
I mean certainly Dobbins could 
be a home run, but it just feels

2339
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:03,000
like with the Achilles tear, 
it's sort of like he's less of a

2340
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:05,000
home run and more like trying to
throw the football over the 

2341
01:58:05,000 --> 01:58:08,360
mountains sort of like vibe like
you're you're it's a long. 

2342
01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:11,400
It feels like a long a real long
shot to me. 

2343
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:13,920
But I don't know. 
I mean that's why I brought up 

2344
01:58:13,920 --> 01:58:17,520
the K Makers thing where like 
the bar is very low for what you

2345
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:19,280
even need. 
Like if you got one spike week 

2346
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:23,920
at the end of the season, you 
know, with the lowest ADP of the

2347
01:58:23,920 --> 01:58:25,880
three, like that would probably 
be enough. 

2348
01:58:26,200 --> 01:58:28,000
It's just I don't. 
I kind of don't even think he 

2349
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:30,720
makes the team. 
I kind of don't think he does 

2350
01:58:30,760 --> 01:58:32,360
either. 
What's also different about the 

2351
01:58:32,360 --> 01:58:36,360
Acres thing is we saw Acres come
back in the playoffs the season 

2352
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:39,520
before he got drafted pretty 
highly. 

2353
01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:42,280
So we'd already seen him come 
back and he wasn't great in the 

2354
01:58:42,280 --> 01:58:44,800
NFL playoffs when he came back, 
but he was used as like a 

2355
01:58:44,800 --> 01:58:47,200
workhorse. 
It was actually kind of crazy 

2356
01:58:47,640 --> 01:58:50,000
how they used him down the 
stretch coming off that Achilles

2357
01:58:51,560 --> 01:58:53,880
man. 
Like yeah, I get what Jon in the

2358
01:58:53,880 --> 01:58:56,120
chat is saying, but like you 
just can't. 

2359
01:58:56,120 --> 01:58:59,640
You can't think of JK Dobbins 
like as the prospect anymore. 

2360
01:58:59,640 --> 01:59:03,160
Like he's coming off the two 
worst injuries you can have as a

2361
01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:06,600
running back, a multi ligament 
ACL tear and an Achilles tear. 

2362
01:59:07,600 --> 01:59:09,920
Like, he's not. 
He's just not gonna be the same 

2363
01:59:09,920 --> 01:59:12,960
guy. 
He also is not the the the guy 

2364
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:16,480
that people thought he was. 
Even when he played, especially 

2365
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:20,920
with Greg Roman, he never really
caught passes ever at Ohio State

2366
01:59:21,080 --> 01:59:24,960
or in Baltimore. 
I mean also the, I mean, it 

2367
01:59:24,960 --> 01:59:28,880
sucks, 'cause he he's dealt with
so many injuries and he never 

2368
01:59:28,880 --> 01:59:30,280
really got to play out his 
rookie season. 

2369
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:33,440
But he's he's also like, he 
turns 26 this year. 

2370
01:59:33,760 --> 01:59:36,480
Like, he's probably like in a 
world where he stayed healthy 

2371
01:59:36,480 --> 01:59:38,600
and probably like, I don't know,
he slowed down last year. 

2372
01:59:39,200 --> 01:59:40,400
That isn't that. 
Isn't that. 

2373
01:59:40,400 --> 01:59:43,400
So, like if he if he was just 
like finishing out his rookie 

2374
01:59:43,400 --> 01:59:46,720
contract, we would be like, I 
don't know man, I'm probably, 

2375
01:59:46,720 --> 01:59:49,680
I'm probably more interested in 
this Vidal guy, this Vidal guy 

2376
01:59:49,680 --> 01:59:51,640
anyway. 
It would he would literally be 

2377
01:59:51,640 --> 01:59:55,200
going in like pick 85 and I'd be
talking about him like I just 

2378
01:59:55,200 --> 01:59:57,920
talked about DeAndre Swift and 
I'd be drafting some dude in the

2379
01:59:57,920 --> 02:00:01,880
last round as as his backup. 
Like I don't know to to then bet

2380
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:05,600
on a dude entering a second 
contract of this after this 

2381
02:00:05,600 --> 02:00:10,200
injury history. 
Like look man, if they had given

2382
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:12,720
him like. 
A2 year deal with like 

2383
02:00:12,720 --> 02:00:15,880
$3,000,000 guaranteed. 
I would yeah I would be singing 

2384
02:00:15,880 --> 02:00:18,640
a different tune, but like this 
is legit. 

2385
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:21,080
Cut risk like out of the league 
risk potentially. 

2386
02:00:21,080 --> 02:00:22,640
Like they didn't give him any 
money. 

2387
02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:28,080
Yeah, the last last thing I 
wanted to talk about here or we 

2388
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:30,040
can we can talk about both these
teams if we want. 

2389
02:00:30,040 --> 02:00:33,480
But you said Korean. 
If there's anyone who's gonna be

2390
02:00:33,480 --> 02:00:36,000
a James Robinson of Kyron 
Williams this year, the dolls on

2391
02:00:36,000 --> 02:00:39,240
the short list, Another guy I 
would put on that short list is 

2392
02:00:39,240 --> 02:00:42,360
Donta Foreman. 
And maybe that's a little bit 

2393
02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:43,400
too. 
He's going to be this year's 

2394
02:00:43,400 --> 02:00:45,840
fiance foreman. 
He could also just be this 

2395
02:00:45,840 --> 02:00:48,800
year's Dante Foreman, but I 
think we have pretty good 

2396
02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:52,160
evidence now. 
OK, I'm talking out of both 

2397
02:00:52,160 --> 02:00:54,360
sides of my mouth now because 
Dante Foreman, Speaking of 

2398
02:00:54,360 --> 02:00:57,640
Achilles stairs, he is like the 
one guy to come. 

2399
02:00:57,680 --> 02:01:00,120
Back four years. 
Though, and it took yeah, it 

2400
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:03,840
took him a really long time, but
he's just been so good as a 

2401
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:07,320
rusher the past couple seasons. 
Now teams haven't really wanted 

2402
02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:11,360
to commit to him, but last year 
he did have a game of 33 PPR 

2403
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:13,560
points. 
I think he had a like 3 

2404
02:01:13,560 --> 02:01:17,280
touchdowns in that game. 
I I just think he's straight up 

2405
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:19,600
a better rusher than Jerome 
Ford. 

2406
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:23,040
And if Nick Chubb isn't coming 
back till, I don't know, week 

2407
02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:27,680
eight, week nine, week 10, that 
gives Foreman a lot of time to 

2408
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:30,040
have a lot of usable weeks. 
And then you get the upside if 

2409
02:01:30,080 --> 02:01:33,840
if Chubb can't come back from 
that knee injury again, it's a 

2410
02:01:33,840 --> 02:01:36,640
really unique like devastating 
knee injury that Chubb is coming

2411
02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:39,320
back from. 
I think he does have some upside

2412
02:01:39,320 --> 02:01:42,480
of just being like the the lead 
rusher of the entire season. 

2413
02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:46,440
So yeah, he's a guy I'd throw in
the mix as being potentially, 

2414
02:01:46,440 --> 02:01:48,240
you know, a big hit from the 
later rounds running. 

2415
02:01:48,240 --> 02:01:53,240
Back I think it's a great call. 
I mean, he doesn't have a ton of

2416
02:01:53,240 --> 02:01:56,600
money. 
This dude has been like just 

2417
02:01:56,600 --> 02:01:58,480
continually disrespected by the 
league. 

2418
02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:01,080
Like he just every year he gets 
an opportunity, he looks good 

2419
02:02:01,080 --> 02:02:03,400
and then he's on a new team. 
I don't really get it. 

2420
02:02:03,960 --> 02:02:08,840
Like I remember the the Titans 
chose Dontrelle Hilliard over 

2421
02:02:08,840 --> 02:02:11,920
this dude and then he's been 
like that was 2 productive 

2422
02:02:11,920 --> 02:02:14,120
seasons ago. 
Like, I don't, I don't get that 

2423
02:02:14,120 --> 02:02:16,800
part of it at all. 
But like this is a really good 

2424
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:20,920
situation for him to kind of 
emerge ahead of Jerome Ford, who

2425
02:02:21,440 --> 02:02:25,160
you know, they kind of trusted. 
He was one of these very trusted

2426
02:02:25,160 --> 02:02:28,160
RB twos but did not look very 
good in a bigger sample. 

2427
02:02:28,640 --> 02:02:30,920
I don't think Chubb is going to 
be the same coming off the knee 

2428
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:33,840
tear like it it was. 
He's an older back already. 

2429
02:02:34,400 --> 02:02:36,720
Second time he's had a multi 
ligament knee tear in the same 

2430
02:02:36,720 --> 02:02:40,000
knee. 
I think Foreman is a pretty good

2431
02:02:40,000 --> 02:02:41,640
pick. 
I think he's a pretty good pick.

2432
02:02:42,760 --> 02:02:45,040
It's also one of those things 
where you need to be thinking 

2433
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:48,840
like portfolio based as opposed 
to even like specific teams like

2434
02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:54,200
if you have no Nick Chubb and no
Jerome Ford. 

2435
02:02:54,520 --> 02:02:56,960
Yeah. 
What is it that you're saying? 

2436
02:02:56,960 --> 02:03:00,480
Are you saying the the Browns 
won't run? 

2437
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:04,880
The Browns won't be successful 
running, you know, It's like and

2438
02:03:04,880 --> 02:03:07,520
and I found myself in that 
position just kind of the last 

2439
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:10,520
couple days thinking about it 
like, well, I hate Chubbs ADP 

2440
02:03:10,840 --> 02:03:13,160
and Jerome Ford seems like a bad
pick. 

2441
02:03:13,480 --> 02:03:15,840
So what is it that I'm hoping to
accomplish here? 

2442
02:03:15,840 --> 02:03:19,080
But just like projecting the 
Browns to not be a successful 

2443
02:03:19,080 --> 02:03:22,360
offense or running the ball, so 
I don't. 

2444
02:03:22,360 --> 02:03:23,720
Maybe I need to start taking 
Ford. 

2445
02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:28,080
I take Ford a little bit and 
mostly when I have like a 

2446
02:03:28,080 --> 02:03:31,040
Jonathan Brooks or something 
like that, but he goes a little 

2447
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:33,280
2 high. 
I think Foreman to me, Foreman's

2448
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:37,040
the way to play it, 'cause he's 
the best of the two, right? 

2449
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:39,040
Like if Chubb comes back and 
he's Chubb, he's obviously way 

2450
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:42,120
better than Foreman. 
But your if your bet is kind of 

2451
02:03:42,640 --> 02:03:46,520
that you're you're not buying 
that then I think Foreman is 

2452
02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:49,600
probably the more talented 
running back of between him and 

2453
02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:52,880
Ford. 
I think he is as as a rusher. 

2454
02:03:52,880 --> 02:03:55,280
I guess we'll see how much the 
Browns trust him to do 

2455
02:03:55,280 --> 02:03:58,200
everything in their system. 
But yeah, just as a pure rusher,

2456
02:03:58,200 --> 02:04:01,120
I think it's it's pretty clear 
that Foreman's more talented 

2457
02:04:01,120 --> 02:04:04,200
than Ford. 
So yeah, I I agree with you 

2458
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:05,000
Davis. 
That's a good point. 

2459
02:04:05,000 --> 02:04:07,120
I haven't been taking either 
Chubb or Ford. 

2460
02:04:07,280 --> 02:04:10,800
I guess last question after you 
guys in this backfield like at 

2461
02:04:10,800 --> 02:04:15,920
what ADP does Nick Chubb start 
to get interesting 'cause I I do

2462
02:04:15,920 --> 02:04:19,920
think we might get a window 
where he's draftable once the 

2463
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:21,800
news comes out that he's on the 
PUP list. 

2464
02:04:21,800 --> 02:04:24,720
We always know the market is 
gonna double count these things.

2465
02:04:24,720 --> 02:04:28,440
Like I'll throw an ADP if if 
Nick Chubb is going at ADP of 

2466
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:30,960
130 for you. 
Guys, yeah, once. 

2467
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:34,240
Once he gets past Chase Brown, 
then, then I'll take him. 

2468
02:04:34,800 --> 02:04:41,800
We've we've had him at 1:20 in 
the rankings the entire time. 

2469
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:45,600
One of the few guys were were 
you know a handful of guys where

2470
02:04:45,600 --> 02:04:48,760
ADP has no say at all. 
He's just chilling in the 

2471
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:51,600
rankings. 
ETR actually I think is right 

2472
02:04:51,600 --> 02:04:54,240
around there as well. 
So I don't know if the market 

2473
02:04:54,240 --> 02:04:56,840
comes down there. 
I would I would mix in some 

2474
02:04:57,920 --> 02:05:00,520
because the one thing you you 
can say for Chubb is that the 

2475
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:01,840
production will be back 
weighted. 

2476
02:05:02,480 --> 02:05:08,720
So if I can mix him in as purely
like you know kind of like 

2477
02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:11,080
around where I'm thinking about 
Gus Edwards. 

2478
02:05:11,080 --> 02:05:15,440
But instead of like a a guy who 
hopes like a Jonathan Brooks 

2479
02:05:15,640 --> 02:05:17,920
come along and you know have 
upside late in the season. 

2480
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:23,200
Chubb provides like some shaky, 
but you know at least some late 

2481
02:05:23,200 --> 02:05:26,920
season upside to to a backfield 
or maybe I feel like, you know, 

2482
02:05:27,440 --> 02:05:30,720
I can, I have more than enough 
early season stuff. 

2483
02:05:32,760 --> 02:05:34,000
I think that I think that's 
right. 

2484
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:39,680
All right. 
We gotta talk Cowboys, I said. 

2485
02:05:39,680 --> 02:05:41,960
There's not going to be a Kyra 
in this year cause 'cause but 

2486
02:05:41,960 --> 02:05:46,320
there might be a James Robinson 
and that was James Robinson. 

2487
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:47,880
Could be Vidal, right? 
The rookie guy. 

2488
02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:53,920
The the I'm Harold, the rookie 
but second year guy who just 

2489
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:55,440
might straight up be the 
starter. 

2490
02:05:56,280 --> 02:05:59,880
It's Dowdle. 
Dowdle might just straight up be

2491
02:05:59,880 --> 02:06:01,920
the starting running back for 
the. 

2492
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:04,520
Cowboys Crane. 
He's a fourth year player, so 

2493
02:06:04,600 --> 02:06:09,280
he's not not exactly 1 to 1. 
Second year that I've known 

2494
02:06:09,280 --> 02:06:13,680
about him. 
Second year that he's gone 

2495
02:06:13,680 --> 02:06:22,360
touches. 
Oh, I love the. 

2496
02:06:22,440 --> 02:06:25,840
Idea of grand just like manually
tagging players in his database,

2497
02:06:25,840 --> 02:06:27,880
not how many years of it on the 
league, just. 

2498
02:06:28,080 --> 02:06:29,760
Based on how? 
Many how many years he's known 

2499
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:31,200
about how many. 
Years I've known. 

2500
02:06:31,240 --> 02:06:33,120
About now. 
Now, to be fair. 

2501
02:06:33,120 --> 02:06:38,320
To be fair, before last season 
he had a grand total of of seven

2502
02:06:38,320 --> 02:06:43,760
NFL touches, and I don't believe
he played in 2022 at all, other 

2503
02:06:43,760 --> 02:06:47,200
than on special teams. 
They they just were not 

2504
02:06:47,200 --> 02:06:51,040
concerned at any point in the 
offseason about filling the 

2505
02:06:51,040 --> 02:06:51,960
running back hole. 
And then they. 

2506
02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:54,200
No, they were. 
Michael Elliot who's we know 

2507
02:06:54,200 --> 02:06:57,240
like we saw Zeke, we know we can
be APR scam. 

2508
02:06:57,240 --> 02:06:59,920
I think if you're taking Zeke, 
so am I. 

2509
02:06:59,960 --> 02:07:01,480
It's not a big deal. 
We can do it. 

2510
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:07,960
But Dowdle's going after Zeke 
now, and like by what? 

2511
02:07:08,160 --> 02:07:10,960
There's like a decent ADP gap of
over 10. 

2512
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:13,720
Yeah, 1515 picks, Yeah. 
Yeah. 15 picks. 

2513
02:07:15,160 --> 02:07:18,120
Dowdle I think is like you're 
getting the RB2. 

2514
02:07:18,120 --> 02:07:21,440
I mean who who's displacing him?
He was the clear cut RB2 last 

2515
02:07:21,440 --> 02:07:23,880
year behind Pollard. 
It's not going to be deuce 

2516
02:07:23,880 --> 02:07:27,560
Vaughn. 
So you're getting the RB2 for 

2517
02:07:27,560 --> 02:07:31,200
sure and there is some chance 
that he is that he's just the 

2518
02:07:31,200 --> 02:07:34,120
starter. 
So I I don't know to to me he's 

2519
02:07:34,120 --> 02:07:37,000
like a very, very easy click 
right now. 

2520
02:07:39,200 --> 02:07:40,880
Did we do the closing line value
on him yet? 

2521
02:07:40,880 --> 02:07:43,560
Because that would be a guy. 
That I want to pick. 

2522
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:45,200
I don't know. 
Someone took Zeke. 

2523
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:46,240
I forgot if someone. 
Took, I think. 

2524
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:47,880
I think someone took Zeke. 
I'm going to take Dowdle. 

2525
02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:50,680
Yeah I I think he's one of the 
best picks to. 

2526
02:07:50,760 --> 02:07:54,040
I haven't been taking him like 
in every draft because in the 

2527
02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:56,520
pre draft stuff I literally was 
taking him in every draft like 

2528
02:07:56,520 --> 02:08:00,280
he was going at pick 18190. 
I'm like guys even if they draft

2529
02:08:00,280 --> 02:08:03,800
Jonathan Brooks like Rico Dowdle
can still be a great pick at 

2530
02:08:03,800 --> 02:08:06,520
pick 18190. 
Like I I don't get how he's 

2531
02:08:06,520 --> 02:08:09,240
possibly going this low. 
I still don't get how he's going

2532
02:08:09,240 --> 02:08:12,480
at pick 142. 
I my only guess is that the 

2533
02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:16,800
market is baking in some like 
Semaj P Rein, Jeff Wilson, 

2534
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:20,240
Khalil Herbert stuff. 
But come August, September, if 

2535
02:08:20,240 --> 02:08:24,560
these are the two guys on the 
team in the backfield they 

2536
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:28,640
should both be going like pick 
100 like it it or or maybe 

2537
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:31,080
earlier like it doesn't. 
It doesn't make any sense to me.

2538
02:08:31,400 --> 02:08:33,640
The second like thought 
experiment I think is 

2539
02:08:33,640 --> 02:08:38,400
interesting to do with Dowdle is
he was the clear RB2 all of last

2540
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:41,200
year. 
We just kind of got unlucky in 

2541
02:08:41,200 --> 02:08:44,000
that Tony Pollard, even though 
he was bad, he was healthy 

2542
02:08:44,000 --> 02:08:47,120
enough to play a full season. 
So we never got the Rico Dowdle 

2543
02:08:47,120 --> 02:08:50,040
spot start. 
If we just got like one Rico 

2544
02:08:50,040 --> 02:08:53,680
Dowdle spot start last year 
where he had 20 carries, 100 

2545
02:08:53,680 --> 02:08:56,640
yards and a touchdown, which 
easily could have happened if if

2546
02:08:56,640 --> 02:08:59,080
Paula was injured, where would 
he be going? 

2547
02:09:00,160 --> 02:09:04,320
Like if we just got one of those
spot start games, like I think 

2548
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:09,840
like a lot, a lot higher, right?
I mean, he'd probably be going 

2549
02:09:10,160 --> 02:09:12,920
where I mean. 
Where Chase Brown is at least, 

2550
02:09:12,920 --> 02:09:15,040
right at least. 
I mean, no, I mean, he could be 

2551
02:09:15,040 --> 02:09:20,600
going where like Zach Moss is or
like, you know, yeah, he's 

2552
02:09:20,600 --> 02:09:23,200
probably up around there, maybe 
a little bit behind, maybe, like

2553
02:09:23,200 --> 02:09:24,800
maybe he's the last guy in that 
tier. 

2554
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:28,920
Yeah. 
But like 40 picks higher with 

2555
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:30,120
one spot start. 
I agree. 

2556
02:09:30,120 --> 02:09:32,040
I think it's a good point. 
Yeah. 

2557
02:09:34,480 --> 02:09:39,360
All right, two hours 10 we're 
we're fully back in ADP chasing.

2558
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:42,200
Well, yeah, I was going to say 
we're the vac levels are so 

2559
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:43,600
fucking high. 
We're we. 

2560
02:09:43,600 --> 02:09:45,880
Are it's a slow week? 
Nothing to talk about. 

2561
02:09:46,120 --> 02:09:51,040
Two hours. 
You know what we need to we need

2562
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:54,120
to unironically do next week. 
Or do we have a guest for next 

2563
02:09:54,120 --> 02:09:56,600
week, Sam? 
Next week is, we're still 

2564
02:09:56,600 --> 02:09:59,160
figuring out next week it's 
Memorial Day, so we're TBD on 

2565
02:09:59,160 --> 02:10:03,400
what's going on next week, so. 
We next time we do a show, 

2566
02:10:03,400 --> 02:10:05,040
whenever that is. 
Sometimes I can't. 

2567
02:10:05,040 --> 02:10:10,280
I can't do Tuesday or so. 
When we do it, we should, we 

2568
02:10:10,280 --> 02:10:12,600
should unironically, without 
prefacing. 

2569
02:10:13,160 --> 02:10:15,560
There actually probably isn't 
going to be a Pukanukua this 

2570
02:10:15,600 --> 02:10:18,680
year. 
We should do our our who could 

2571
02:10:18,680 --> 02:10:20,720
be this year's Pukanukua 
analysis? 

2572
02:10:21,600 --> 02:10:23,120
Yeah, that's a good topic for a 
show. 

2573
02:10:24,600 --> 02:10:27,080
Probably no one else, probably 
no one else, no one. 

2574
02:10:27,080 --> 02:10:31,440
Else, no one else is doing that.
I'll tell you this much, no one 

2575
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:34,520
else is talking about Keelan 
Robinson on May 20th. 

2576
02:10:34,520 --> 02:10:37,760
Dude, only we're the only show. 
Someone, someone, put a time 

2577
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:39,800
stamp in that 'cause? 
I just want something to victory

2578
02:10:39,800 --> 02:10:43,120
lap in Week 4 when Keelan 
Robinson has 8 carries for 23 

2579
02:10:43,120 --> 02:10:46,040
yards and a touchdown and a 
blowout Titans victory. 

2580
02:10:48,640 --> 02:10:51,920
All right. 
Couple announcements we have 

2581
02:10:52,040 --> 02:10:56,600
that's fair merch I believe you 
can find that in the show notes,

2582
02:10:56,600 --> 02:11:00,840
but Pete just put that out. 
So if you want to get, that's 

2583
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:04,280
fair TS, John C. 
Hit me with the That's fair 

2584
02:11:04,280 --> 02:11:06,800
earlier with my with my JK 
Dobbins point. 

2585
02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:08,960
That's fair. 
Derogatory, I believe. 

2586
02:11:09,480 --> 02:11:11,680
I think it was derogatory. 
If if it's in quotes, that's a 

2587
02:11:11,680 --> 02:11:13,440
good sign it's. 
That's a good, very good sign. 

2588
02:11:13,600 --> 02:11:16,680
It's derogatory. 
Yeah, So you can get your, 

2589
02:11:16,680 --> 02:11:21,360
that's fair, TS. 
Like I said, Will probably be 

2590
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:25,680
back next week on Tuesday 
because of the holiday. 

2591
02:11:25,800 --> 02:11:28,720
I'll have an update about that 
later. 

2592
02:11:29,040 --> 02:11:32,320
Otherwise, if we take a week 
off, we will certainly be back 

2593
02:11:32,440 --> 02:11:38,680
on the third crane. 
Anything you want to say about 

2594
02:11:38,680 --> 02:11:40,160
legendary upside? 
Anything else you got going on? 

2595
02:11:41,640 --> 02:11:42,880
Just sign up for Legendary 
upside. 

2596
02:11:42,960 --> 02:11:45,480
Got underdog rankings, 
DraftKings rankings updating 

2597
02:11:45,480 --> 02:11:48,200
every day. 
Launching FFPC rankings Got a 

2598
02:11:48,200 --> 02:11:53,200
kind of so Driscoll Drico 
helping out with those so we got

2599
02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:56,360
yeah you got to have someone 
drafted in the FFPC streets 

2600
02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:58,560
regularly. 
I I when I try to get in the 

2601
02:11:58,560 --> 02:12:01,800
FFPC streets I forget that I 
have a team going and then it 

2602
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:05,480
auto drafts. 
So you know Jerko's actually in 

2603
02:12:05,480 --> 02:12:08,840
there observing his drafts so we
got him helping out on the 

2604
02:12:08,840 --> 02:12:09,840
ranks. 
Those are going to be launching 

2605
02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:12,720
this week articles from 
sacrilegious Stephanie Miller 

2606
02:12:13,200 --> 02:12:18,640
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2607
02:12:18,800 --> 02:12:20,720
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Awesome, Davis. 

2609
02:12:24,600 --> 02:12:26,680
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Anything else you want to 

2610
02:12:26,680 --> 02:12:29,040
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No, take Gas Sports Credit 

2611
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2612
02:12:30,760 --> 02:12:33,840
Actually, I think I'm going to 
bring back the newsletter this 

2613
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:34,560
summer. 
Oh nice. 

2614
02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:41,040
Yeah, for for not for for for 
non fantasy football. 

2615
02:12:41,040 --> 02:12:43,520
Like super specific stuff. 
More, More. 

2616
02:12:43,760 --> 02:12:46,720
The Leone style. 
Yes, yeah, I'm going to, I'm 

2617
02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:49,480
going to copy Mike. 
That's that's the that's the 

2618
02:12:49,480 --> 02:12:51,640
idea. 
So be on the lookout for that. 

2619
02:12:51,640 --> 02:12:55,520
And yeah, we'll, you know, keep 
drafting. 

2620
02:12:55,560 --> 02:12:57,080
You'll see me, you'll see me in 
the streets. 

2621
02:12:57,080 --> 02:13:00,640
If you're if you're drafting 5 
puppies at any given time over 

2622
02:13:00,640 --> 02:13:02,480
the next week, you'll probably 
run into me. 

2623
02:13:02,840 --> 02:13:05,400
I'll I'll see plenty of you, 
Davis. 

2624
02:13:09,520 --> 02:13:10,800
All right. 
Good stuff, guys. 

2625
02:13:11,120 --> 02:13:13,640
We'll see you all next week. 
Peace.