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All right, it's been a while 
since been Gretchen. 

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I have done. 
Just a two-man ship chasing, but

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our friend, Pat crane he's to 
read. 

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She's off, scuba diving in the 
Maldives doing, Lord knows what.

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But yes, it's Gretchen. 
I hold down the fort. 

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We're going to look at some 
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the only way been Gretchen. 
I can get to winning 2 million. 

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If we're analyzing these Trends 
early here in February, we also 

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get some of our Super Bowl 
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All of that tonight on ships, 
chasing Pat. 

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Friar homos. 
I just realized that we've like 

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round-trip ticket Darius, Tony 
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from Pat, having his feet up, 
like a gas that anyone could 

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ever draft this guy to be like, 
holy cow, he's actually really 

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efficient to like, oh, this 
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holy shit. 
He's on the chiefs were going to

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the moon, and then be like, oh, 
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And like before his hamstring 
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suit up for the Chiefs again. 
Right? 

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What a fucking helicopter? 
Yeah, it has been a roller 

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coaster, the whole admitting 
that. 

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He's good. 
But then also like, it doesn't 

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matter because King on the 
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It's not really the Maltese that
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thing is it I do like doing the 
bit that Pat is too rich to do a

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show with us but he had 
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three-week scuba diving trip. 
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billion dollars key, it is, it's
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He had told me about this in 
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I think it was in the summer and
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they've been doing these scuba 
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They've gone to like the 
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There's been this place off of 
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isolated and you have to take a 
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Like all the scuba diver heads 
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You have to go and it's really 
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they finally like, booked their 
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ago. 
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completely isolated right now in
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Vietnam scuba diving. 
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It's incredible. 
He did mention. 

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I think I'm one of the recap 
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behind the scenes to us that he 
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team that want the tomb of. 
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summer, like good thing to do 
between booking and going on. 

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A massive vacation is to draft. 
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I mean that's a good Loop to 
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international waters off of 
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Haven and he's never coming back
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But yes, that will be back in a 
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think he'll be back you know. 
Maybe he'll have found God, 

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maybe he'll go the sfb. 
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altruism route, you know, maybe 
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hippie, that's decided to donate
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Is causes, I mean, really 
everything's on the table been. 

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Yeah, I can't wait to find out. 
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already through to. 
So we're, I mean, one more week 

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here. 
We're going to Pat back. 

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We're going to get, we're lost 
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from again. 
One of the other Kyle is just 

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absolutely sick of our small 
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He is hammering. 
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Ridley? 
Pretty good. 

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Can we do a little Play Kyle. 
I see your question, but let's, 

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let's see. 
Sid to this of it here. 

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Shout out to everyone in the 
chat, you know, Gretchen, I had 

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talked a little bit to about and
with Pat about like, kind of 

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what we wanted, the offseason 
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I think it was last year and 
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the infamous me, and Pat have 
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this time. 
So we're going to figure out 

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what our schedule is. 
Maybe we'll take a little bit of

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time off every other week. 
I don't know what it's gonna end

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up being but, you know, we'll 
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fucking. 
Ting every single Wednesday 

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night until the season starts. 
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We'll do some stuff. 
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A lot of injuries. 
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Where I know I got done and I 
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detach a little bit. 
This year, I decided to do. 

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I've read three books, already, 
Pete. 

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We did the long. 
Thanks in December. 

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I hadn't read a book all of last
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Three books. 
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Holy cow? 
What The what's the highlighter?

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The best one you've read so far?
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of patrons. 
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psychological thrillers that my,
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got me onto that. 
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called the last one. 
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wife. 
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patient. 
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But like gimp page turns. 
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They're really good in terms of 
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They're good. 
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the, the sequel to the 1995 
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Heat, was really was written by 
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released last year, 27 years 
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Yeah, to. 
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I mean, I know, you know, I 
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in our group chat with Leone and
how, you know, getting back in 

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the rhythm of reading as hard. 
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dumping into something that's 
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good way to train yourself into 
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I need to get back to that spot.
I do that with a lot of like 

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nonfiction. 
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online. 
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reading a biography or, you 
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perfect, pass about the Air Raid
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of a leap from what we read 
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So it's good to get back in 
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That's what I was thinking was 
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know Prestige article that I 
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into this like several thousand 
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long reads on online when 
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But yeah, I'm going to Sean, put
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Stevenson. 
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longer, a little bit more 
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I want to get into that next and
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quickly, I'm reading, once I 
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tougher toppings. 
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Another. 
One of like the Mythos of Sean. 

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Siegel is that while also being 
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planet he just finds time to 
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every TV show and it's like dude
can you just chill out like he's

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giving out recommendations for 
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It's like okay. 
Just wait till the off season to

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start tackling some of this 
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Yeah, I mean I told him I was 
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like yeah you know the novel I'm
finishing up. 

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I'm like, you just constantly 
reading and Ali. 

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I think he reads like during 
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know how he finds time for it. 
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Wait, what's your take out this?
This is obviously one of those 

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silly things that in the grand 
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meaningless, but this whole 
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audiobooks count as reading, 
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I'm going to say no, and I don't
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don't have like a place and 
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Like I enjoy them still but it's
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reading, right? 
Like, there's a very legitimate 

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point of about like, actually 
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opposed to listen to them, I 
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asked you, like, if they, if 
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still be fine. 
Be like, yeah, I read it without

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like, clarifying, the news and 
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have weird. 
Not incongruent thoughts on this

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where like if somebody was like,
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you only heard it on audio 
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I don't think you have to be 
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I didn't exactly, that's my 
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Like if you did a bet with 
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and I did a thing where we did 
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like meditate and read 30 pages 
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Each day, I didn't, we took out 
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say to yourself I'm going to 
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I don't think that counts but by
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book in the same way you At a 
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Go for it. 
Yeah, that's still better than 

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not doing it. 
Yeah, absolutely. 

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Yeah, exactly. 
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Gretsch because I know some 
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this. 
We are getting to that point in 

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the year. 
Donovan asking is Omni a thing 

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this year. 
Do you have any updates on 

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what's going on in the world of 
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Yeah, I mean, working on it a 
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It was a lot more to chew that. 
I had bitten off that I expected

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last. 
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couple rounded up, the lot of 
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awesome. 
I want to, I want to do it as 

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well as we can do it. 
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improvements that are made 
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like a timer and we didn't have 
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babysit all these different 
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They don't taking up a lot of my
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for this year. 
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right into the newsletter soon 
but if anyone is watching this 

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and was really into last year 
wants to help out with it or 

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anything. 
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try to find Some people to maybe
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load, but Kevin's out Lugo who 
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Some of the work is I was just 
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He's doing some some prep to get
it ready for 2023. 

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So yeah, I mean it'll be it'll 
be there in some form, right? 

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We got some, we always have 
different events. 

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We got some fun, new events that
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men's World Cup but we have the 
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We have the World Baseball, 
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in several years. 
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baseball contest in March. 
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which will be a fun thing to add
to Dominic fancy. 

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There's both XFL in usfl this 
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smaller leagues. 
So it's going to be a fun year 

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for the different sports that 
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I feel like you guys, I don't 
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thing. 
I feel like you guys need, you 

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need a sponsor. 
You need someone to come back up

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the truck with some money. 
Give you guys some money so you 

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can devote a little bit more 
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I mean, are you guys looking for
a sponsor I would love to kiss. 

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Watch it. 
Yes, I'm not actively looking. 

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I'm not actively doing much of 
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It doesn't make any money right 
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Well, as we know, you know, 
sometimes you just put things 

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out in the world, you manifest 
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If you're interested in helping 
out with Omni fantasy, maybe 

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with some admin stuff, some 
back-end stuff or if you're 

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interested in sponsoring it. 
I do think you guys are on. 

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We've said this for years, like 
it's a really fun concept and 

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obviously there's things like I 
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and like you tweaking it, like 
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adding F1 that sport didn't lend
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Well, to Romney is how top-heavy
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So you're still like, tweaking 
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equilibrium, but when you do hit
on it, in that sweet spot, it is

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a really, really fun way to 
draft and play fantasy sports. 

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Yeah, it's super fun than we did
the big. 

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We have the ship chasing cup, 
which I've been talking to you, 

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but then we also did the Autumn 
famous sculptor try to make that

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available to more people. 
And that had 144 people in it 

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and like just got decided in the
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Evan and I don't know which Evan
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that was leading the entire time
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Kind of fell apart at the end 
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to finish. 
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the way from behind and Anthony,
which we don't have like full 

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names here. 
We just have Twitter names, but 

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Anthony, congratulations. 
It looks like you're the winner 

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because they're yes, the Chiefs,
he had the winner and NASCAR. 

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And another top for NASCAR 
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the World Cup. 
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and Willis and I didn't even 
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when we were doing the ship 
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took Argentina and we were both 
sharing Gifts of messy. 

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I remember messaging my some of 
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friends about I was like, could 
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Cup this year like yeah, maybe. 
So there we go. 

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We did get our 80 points there. 
Yeah. 

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They'll do for the Argentina 
which is a fun one to get their 

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guys. 
Got out to yeah. 

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Kyle who I Leave Kyle is also no
do. 

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And I'm butchering his full 
Discord name but he also won the

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ship chasing Dynasty League that
we did this offseason. 

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So Kyle is on an absolute heater
these days Omni and and Dynasty,

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is that the is that the ship 
chasing cup that you clicked on 

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there? 
Yes. 

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Yes. 
So there's three leagues for 

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that and we usually name a 
winner with the overall points. 

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You had 550 as the overall. 
There, I just opened up mine and

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the leader in mind is that for 
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which I don't have. 
I can dig up but I don't have in

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front of me but you Kyle. 
Might be the overall ship 

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chasing winner for that one. 
Wow. 

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Look at that. 
So we got what eighth member of 

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the Dynasty and the in the lobby
we're going to say I was just 

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looking at where he got his 
points. 

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I mean, holy cow, he was just 
crushing everywhere. 

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Yeah, if you go to Big Board, 
you Can see his draft and then 

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the green is is 80 pointers are 
champions, so it's three, four, 

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five, pick world champions. 
You got the PGA Champion, 

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Cameron Smith down in the 15th 
round. 

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He had the runner-up in the 
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Hamilton is. 
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kind of a huge Buzz that what 
02, wow, we talked about F1 a 

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lot and he ended up being kind 
of a bus who's like the one 

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surprise and F1 was that Lewis 
Hamilton wasn't good this year, 

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but everything else. 
He smashes got the Niners there 

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and the As a semifinalist in the
sixth round, the Mavericks is a 

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semifinalist in the 14th and New
York Rangers. 

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The semifinals in the 10th, got 
some good picks in it. 

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Yeah, that is Croatia as a 
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in the eighteenth round. 
So he had France and Croatia in 

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the world cup and got them both 
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That's pretty money. 
Do you know the other? 

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I have another idea for you 
Gretch with a thing that could 

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be like I don't think a huge 
heavy lift for you but just 

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having like an omni Her account.
We're like win a team or a 

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person like secures points, and 
then people can just turn alerts

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on and you get that thing of 
like, oh, I just secured X 

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points for this because I would 
like I remembered it for messy 

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in Argentina, but then I would 
forget about it for like the NHL

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or whatever. 
Yeah, I have a tan, the fantasy 

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that I was going to use it for 
that but I haven't, you know, 

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having done it again. 
Like it's enough and takes 

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enough just to get the thing up 
and running. 

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That's why I want some help with
him if he wants to. 

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Out because oh yeah, Carlos 
alcaraz. 

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Remember we were talking about 
him the tennis player. 

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The Young tennis player. 
He ended up doing really well. 

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Yeah, it was our guy, it was our
guy, Nick bird. 

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Who I think was hyping him up to
us and then we started watching 

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highlights of him and then he 
fucking crush this year. 

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Yes. 
Yeah, he was an even with all 

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the hype, you still like a much 
later tennis pick. 

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Like, I think when people were 
taking them really high, he'd 

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maybe be like the eighth. 
Highest picked 10 This guy. 

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I mean he was not usually the 
anywhere near the like the top 

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five or even top seven or 
anything. 

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But he was in position to 
potentially win tennis going 

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into this Australian Open, but 
he had to miss it because I'm a 

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fantasy is the three tennis 
tournaments Majors from One 

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calendar year, and then the 
Australian Open for the next 

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calendar year, because that's in
January down in the southern 

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hemisphere in Australia. 
Hassan's favorite. 

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I see her son's name on 
on-screen Hassan's favorite 

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Country their Australia. 
So anyway, Al Gore has had to 

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miss the Australian Open so he 
fell to. 

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I think he finished like forth, 
so he ends up as a county. 

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As a semifinalist, the tennis 
points are done a little bit 

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differently but he won one of 
the majors, right. 

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He won the US Open or something,
I mean, he was. 

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Yeah, he got to world. 
Number one ranking this year, 

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chats telling us. 
So he, I mean, he was like, 

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legitimately a break out like a 
superstar. 

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They took him in the 12th round.
And value their you gotta pull 

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the trigger and I was also 
laughing at all of us have 

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horrible picks and there, but I 
was just laughing at Silas, is 

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Los Angeles Rams at for Ted 
pick. 

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I mean it has to be one of the 
worst. 

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That's the best of honestly. 
One of the best parts of army is

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looking at the like how bad some
of the pics were in hindsight, I

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mean there. 
Yeah, the Rams 410 didn't go. 

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Well, that's very true and for 
whatever reason I just get same 

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for some reason you are 
confused. 

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Talking about. 
So been helps Host this super 

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Innovative like fantasy contest 
called the Omni fantasy and you 

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draft across a ton of different 
sports leagues. 

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Basically anything that can fit 
to the size of however big the 

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league you want to do and then 
you can host that with friends. 

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We did once through ship chasing
then did a bigger Scott Fishbowl

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ask tournament and a very fun 
time and we'll always have some 

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details on the show you can get 
details, you have a separate sub

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stack for the Omni fantasy, 
right? 

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Ben, You do? 
Yeah, I think that's on the 

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fantasy. 
Sometimes outcome, I'm seeing 

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Kyle's comment here. 
Hi. 

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He said, I passed on TV with him
and Dynasty. 

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I did team with him. 
We did like one pic together and

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then we added additional Dynasty
league. 

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So that I could be, you know, 
host one of my own, there was a 

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bunch of people that want to 
keep playing. 

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So I had to jump back out of 
that, but he had already started

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such a hit, such a good start. 
And yet AJ Brown and everything,

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I was like, oh yeah, I love your
team. 

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We're going to, you know, we're 
going to do it, and then I had a

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back out. 
I was pretty bummed Backing out 

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and then he went on, I forgot 
about that, but he went on to 

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win the whole thing. 
That's money. 

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He went on to do it. 
Yeah, we're still. 

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If, for some reason you haven't,
I been, I basically took over 

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for everyone as treasurer for 
the League's. 

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I still have a little bit of 
money to pass out. 

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I think most of it has been paid
out, but if you haven't been 

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paid and you're in the ship, 
chasing Dynasty League, shoot 

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me, a DM on Discord, Gretch. 
I know you've talked a little 

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bit about Super Bowl. 
Thoughts Conference 

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Championship. 
Post-mortem, I listen to you and

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Sean. 
On break down that that Chiefs 

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Bengals game in detail the other
day. 

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But what are your kind of early 
snap takes on the Super Bowl? 

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I know you were on the chief 
side, you know, I got caught up 

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in Bangles you for, you were 
kind of pushing back on that. 

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You have to be a little Stoke 
that Patrick Mahomes pulled that

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rabbit out of his house. 
Yeah, I have four over two 

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stealing lines. 
I have the cheese and the Eagles

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last week and so, I mean, I got 
I got both the sides, right? 

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I was half, that's kind of who I
was pulling for obviously 

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having, you know, pick them and 
buy them. 

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The Super Bowl is Just tougher. 
It's trickier. 

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I don't have a clear take yet. 
I like Both sides. 

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I mean they're both the ones, 
you know, I think. 

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I mean it's never like good 
radio to be like, I don't really

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know, but I think the arguments 
about the Eagles soft schedule 

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are probably overblown in some 
circles, but also not Unfounded 

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entirely right there. 
Very good team, but they haven't

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necessarily had to beat a lot of
good teams there past the Super 

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Bowl. 
One of the, easiest, frankly of 

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all time, they'd be Daniel Jones
in the Giants. 

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And then their next game, 
they're playing already a 

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backup. 
QB, any tears. 

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As you see L right away and then
that backup QV gets a 

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concussion. 
The guy with no UCL has to come 

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back in. 
I mean, they threw two passes in

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the second half. 
I think the Niners. 

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That doesn't mean the Eagles. 
Wouldn't still won that game 

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though because they played a 
really good game and they're 

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very, they're an obviously very 
good team that hasn't had to 

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play. 
Say a lot of really difficult 

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games. 
I think Sean made the point on 

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that stealing, bananas pod, but 
and in part to defend me, sort 

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of pushing back on him, for his 
first thought was the Eagles and

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sort of win, and I was kind of 
making this point, and his, his 

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point back was like, yeah, I 
mean, if it is a close game, the

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Chiefs have had to play a lot of
these tougher games have had to 

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play. 
The banks had to pay the bills. 

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If I had to play tough games 
throughout the regular season in

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a way that the Eagles, I mean 
they've had a few tough 

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opponents but I really 
Favorable, schedule, most of the

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Season, not not a ton of 
difficult matchup sin. 

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Not a lot of games where they've
been, you know, close late and 

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had to pull things out. 
If it is a close game, I think 

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there is something to the fact 
that the Chiefs have had to play

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those types of games before. 
And there's, I think there's 

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definitely something to the fact
that Patrick Mahomes is better 

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for homes. 
Jalen Hertz is good but you 

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know, it hurts first as much as 
the Eagles dominated that game 

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against the 49ers. 
June hurts, did not look good. 

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I mean Miss age. 
A brown wide open on a deep 

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shot. 
That should have been like a 70 

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yard TD. 
So obviously I'm going to judge 

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him unfavorably for that, but he
missed several throws and that 

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game, he didn't look great. 
I think he's good though, I 

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don't want it, you know, I don't
want to lock myself in the 

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people that are just sort of 
Jalen hurd's haters. 

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There's a lot I think that jump 
to negatively on that say you 

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can't throw. 
He's just a runner and all this 

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stuff. 
I mean you don't want to go that

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far. 
It's I mean, they're good. 

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The Eagles are very good that 
she's very good. 

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I'm having a hard time. 
I'm reading it. 

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I think it is very much like the
Bangles where the Bengals were 

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better in a lot of other phases,
but Mahomes is just on another 

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tier than Borough at this point 
frankly in pearls really good, 

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but I thought it was laughable 
to people were saying that bro 

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could be considered better than 
my homes even if you beat him in

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that game. 
And that was something we talked

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about a lot of bananas, over the
last couple weeks. 

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In this case, I think the gap of
quarterback is probably even 

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wider. 
Even though hurts is incredibly 

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good and was frankly better in 
the regular season. 

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The borough, finish higher in 
the MVP race than burrow. 

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Or presumably will I still think
you know Mahomes is the big 

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Advantage for the Chiefs, the 
Eagles, otherwise have a lot of 

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advantages at other areas that 
are offensive line that are 

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receivers, better skill position
players, she's defense is a 

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little bit underrated but 
probably about defense for the 

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Eagles. 
It's gonna be a fun game to see 

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what's your like break-even 
point or your I should say 

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you're Tipping Point for the 
pass catcher. 

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As I know we're still a week and
a half out, but Tony D and P 

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today, Hardman DMP, Judy MP, 
like how far can the Chiefs and 

444
00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:58,700
Mahomes get away with not having
pass catchers like, can they go 

445
00:21:58,700 --> 00:22:03,200
out with Justin Watson MBS and 
Sky more and Marcus Kemp and win

446
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:04,900
this game? 
Or do you need to see one of 

447
00:22:04,900 --> 00:22:08,600
these guys back healthy? 
What we probably need to see him

448
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:10,400
healthy. 
I pee. 

449
00:22:10,700 --> 00:22:12,900
I mean I don't know if we can 
talk about it on the show but 

450
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,300
it's kind of scam or had seven 
targets it caught three passes 

451
00:22:16,300 --> 00:22:20,000
for 13 yards, like that was but 
actually turn, bro, like it 

452
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,300
hurts our, they put them back 
there because because Tony and 

453
00:22:23,300 --> 00:22:26,300
hardener both hurt. 
And I'm like, he's fumbled like 

454
00:22:26,300 --> 00:22:29,100
three kick returns this year. 
He's been a disaster. 

455
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,600
I mean, what a huge, huge play 
though. 

456
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,100
Hopefully we see Sky do 
something in the Super Bowl, but

457
00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:36,700
I would have thought he could 
have stepped up in some of these

458
00:22:36,700 --> 00:22:39,400
spots in the Laughs when he got 
a little bit more run, he is not

459
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:43,700
looked ready yet. 
Frank not I guess so yeah. 

460
00:22:43,700 --> 00:22:47,700
I mean I think you probably need
guys back but I assume Justin 

461
00:22:47,700 --> 00:22:51,200
Watson will be back. 
I assume I mean Juju can't be. 

462
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,900
That is how banged up his Juju? 
Okay, he was like, in and out, 

463
00:22:56,900 --> 00:22:58,300
right? 
Yeah. 

464
00:22:58,300 --> 00:23:02,200
So, it's yes, right here. 
It's so it's his knee. 

465
00:23:03,500 --> 00:23:07,300
But yeah, I don't really have a 
good good read on it as far as 

466
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:13,000
as far as where he will be, he's
been tipping. 

467
00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:18,300
But yeah, the Tipping Point, 
question for me is like, It's 

468
00:23:18,300 --> 00:23:23,700
probably further. 
Than for most because I just 

469
00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:27,400
think the homes is that good? 
I mean he Played pretty damn. 

470
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,900
Well, I'm this last game, I mean
he made mvs played really well, 

471
00:23:30,900 --> 00:23:33,400
look very good but you have to 
put a lot of that on the homes 

472
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,100
to but I'm mvs made some really 
nice because I'm his best game. 

473
00:23:36,100 --> 00:23:37,800
He's played with the Chiefs by 
far. 

474
00:23:39,100 --> 00:23:40,400
Made some plays down, the field 
made. 

475
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,900
It really nice play like yards 
after catch, play on a short 

476
00:23:42,900 --> 00:23:46,700
catch that I was just like 
shocked by, because it's not 

477
00:23:46,700 --> 00:23:49,000
really his game. 
He did, he did a lot throughout 

478
00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,800
the game, but I feel like my 
home's, can Elevate, anyone? 

479
00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:54,800
It's sort of, like, when I'm 
going to get to, you know? 

480
00:23:55,700 --> 00:23:58,300
Yeah. 
And I do think, for me, it's 

481
00:23:58,300 --> 00:24:00,800
like Mahomes going to be my 
home's, the Chiefs offense, it's

482
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,100
just gonna do what it does. 
They're going to stay involved 

483
00:24:03,100 --> 00:24:06,800
in games and to me it does come 
down to like can the Chiefs 

484
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,500
defense and can that pass rush 
get to jail and hurts can you 

485
00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:12,800
know, can they do what they were
able to do against burrow and 

486
00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,600
really play the game? 
They wanted to? 

487
00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,400
Because I think if you think 
about that Bangles game like 

488
00:24:17,700 --> 00:24:19,500
those first few drives were the 
Bangles. 

489
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:22,800
Just didn't have any offense 
like at that doesn't happen in 

490
00:24:22,800 --> 00:24:24,300
borough. 
Has a clean pocket for that full

491
00:24:24,300 --> 00:24:26,100
game. 
Like the Bengals win that game. 

492
00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:29,700
And so then the question is can 
they get Jalen hurts under 

493
00:24:29,700 --> 00:24:32,300
duress? 
Can they kind of shut down some 

494
00:24:32,300 --> 00:24:33,600
of the things that you guys like
to do? 

495
00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:36,300
And then just like, if it's a 
low scoring close game, you just

496
00:24:36,300 --> 00:24:40,000
have to like the chief chances 
but if the Eagles are able to do

497
00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,500
what they do is just like how 
can the Chiefs keep up, 

498
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:45,800
Firepower wanted them. 
I agree with your point that the

499
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,100
way that the game played out. 
If the Penguins had done 

500
00:24:49,100 --> 00:24:50,100
anything early, they would have 
one. 

501
00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:52,100
I think that's pretty 
indisputable given that the game

502
00:24:52,100 --> 00:24:54,500
was, you know, close late and 
the Bengals didn't do anything 

503
00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:57,400
early at all. 
I would also argue You that the 

504
00:24:57,400 --> 00:25:02,500
Chiefs did a terrible job of 
maximizing points on their good 

505
00:25:02,500 --> 00:25:04,200
drives. 
Andy Reid, burnt a lot of 

506
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,800
timeouts. 
Terrible punt, decisions to 

507
00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:10,400
different puns in both halves 
with about two minutes left 

508
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:14,700
inside their opponents. 40-yard 
line in the situation where 

509
00:25:14,700 --> 00:25:17,100
you're giving the opponent, the 
potential last Drive of the 

510
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,100
half, it's like a no-brainer go,
he did that. 

511
00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:23,200
In the second quarter did in the
fourth quarter, Andy Reid did 

512
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,900
not call that game particularly 
well. 

513
00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:30,800
I think he called it horribly 
actually to be completely blunt.

514
00:25:31,500 --> 00:25:35,600
I think the like if we're saying
like a little bit of what ifs, 

515
00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:37,700
like yes, the Bangles could have
been better and they could have 

516
00:25:37,700 --> 00:25:39,500
won this game. 
I think the Chiefs could have 

517
00:25:39,500 --> 00:25:40,700
been a lot better in this game 
too. 

518
00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:44,000
If they do a better job of 
maximizing, like they're good 

519
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,500
plays, and they're good drives 
and getting seven instead of 

520
00:25:46,500 --> 00:25:49,000
three and going for it on Fourth
Downs. 

521
00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:53,700
I mean, there's paths to them 
looking a lot better than they 

522
00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:55,700
wound up. 
Looking in the AFC Championship 

523
00:25:55,700 --> 00:25:58,100
that were right there in front 
of us, they just didn't actually

524
00:25:58,100 --> 00:26:01,000
happen. 
Yeah, what do you what are your 

525
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,700
thoughts on the total? 
I feel like the total is 

526
00:26:02,708 --> 00:26:04,500
interesting. 
It's set at 50. 

527
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,300
I've been burned. 
Betting Eagles, overs, like 

528
00:26:07,300 --> 00:26:08,800
every week. 
Just being like, the eagles are 

529
00:26:08,808 --> 00:26:10,800
going to do their part. 
Will their opponents. 

530
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,200
Just have to score like two 
touchdowns in the over will hit 

531
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:16,000
every time that it that does it,
does it happen? 

532
00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:18,200
This this spot seems interesting
to me. 

533
00:26:18,208 --> 00:26:20,500
It seems like the sharp side is 
on the under and I still just 

534
00:26:20,500 --> 00:26:22,500
want a fuckin believe that. 
Offers get a hit. 

535
00:26:24,500 --> 00:26:26,700
Yeah, I haven't done a lot of 
work on the over-under yet, but 

536
00:26:26,700 --> 00:26:28,500
my immediately in is the under 
as well. 

537
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,700
I mean, yeah, I took the old 
version both games last week 

538
00:26:31,700 --> 00:26:33,700
because I was like, these are 
all really good offenses at this

539
00:26:33,700 --> 00:26:36,500
stage of the Season. 
Good offense, tends to be could 

540
00:26:36,500 --> 00:26:39,300
defense. 
I mean, the cheese, bangle 

541
00:26:39,300 --> 00:26:42,400
should have went over. 
It was 2020 with like most of 

542
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,000
the fourth quarter left and the 
neither team could get anything 

543
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:47,100
else. 
The over-under was 47. 

544
00:26:47,100 --> 00:26:49,600
In that one I was like we just 
need a touchdown and we're going

545
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:54,500
to, you know, push and then And 
end up being decided by a field 

546
00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:58,800
goal 2320. 
The Eagles Niners. 

547
00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,700
I think also very well could 
have went over if the Niners 

548
00:27:01,700 --> 00:27:05,600
film score 7 points because of 
all these QB injuries, but same 

549
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,000
time like they're two good 
examples of how like you have 

550
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,700
competitive teams like games can
be held down a little bit too. 

551
00:27:12,700 --> 00:27:17,100
So I mean the this totals even 
higher than both of those games,

552
00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:20,300
the two really good offenses and
I do tend to think offense 

553
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:24,000
dictates a little bit more this 
point, but we also know that the

554
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,000
defense has been huge in the 
Super Bowl. 

555
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:28,500
Many of the last decade couple 
decades. 

556
00:27:28,500 --> 00:27:30,500
I don't think that's going to be
the trend forever, and we're 

557
00:27:30,500 --> 00:27:32,900
going to see more offensive 
teams win. 

558
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:38,200
Super Bowls through their 
offense, but It's a high number 

559
00:27:38,300 --> 00:27:41,000
for, you know. 
Yeah. 

560
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:47,300
I mean I I would want to dig 
into Past Super Bowls totals. 

561
00:27:47,300 --> 00:27:49,500
I mean there's been some low 
scoring Super Bowls recently. 

562
00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:51,700
Obviously the Rams and Patriots 
one comes to mind immediately. 

563
00:27:51,700 --> 00:27:53,800
It was like 13-3 that Super Bowl
sucked. 

564
00:27:54,300 --> 00:27:57,500
But how many have gone over 50 
in the last decade? 

565
00:27:58,300 --> 00:28:02,900
Yeah, and I bet that have a time
and we can dive into that. 

566
00:28:02,900 --> 00:28:05,400
Yeah, it is tough. 
I mean the whole thing. 

567
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,300
The Chiefs have just ever since 
Mahomes hurt his ankle, they've 

568
00:28:08,300 --> 00:28:12,100
been such a tough riddle to kind
of crack as far as what you 

569
00:28:12,100 --> 00:28:13,800
could expect for them, right? 
Because if they had a healthy 

570
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:15,300
Mahomes and it Healthy receiving
Corps. 

571
00:28:15,300 --> 00:28:17,800
It's like this total would 
probably be set at 55. 

572
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,600
It would, but I would like to 
under even more. 

573
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,900
I mean, like, last year, Lamb, 
okay? 

574
00:28:26,900 --> 00:28:30,500
So G Bangles was 2320. 
Actually the same score as 

575
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:34,700
cheese, Bangles that had a 48.5.
I mean, you're typically getting

576
00:28:34,700 --> 00:28:37,000
two offenses, two teams that 
look really good. 

577
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,000
Going at each other. 
You're thinking, they have an 

578
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:44,500
extra week of rest, you're 
thinking that they're going to. 

579
00:28:44,700 --> 00:28:48,400
They're going to come out firing
but it's not always going to 

580
00:28:48,408 --> 00:28:50,000
play that way. 
I mean look at this. 

581
00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:51,800
Okay? 
See San Fran a couple of years 

582
00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,100
ago was 3120 New England, 
Atlanta was a classic Philly. 

583
00:28:56,300 --> 00:28:58,400
New England was a classic but a 
lot of those games. 

584
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,400
Yeah. 
I mean there's some high scoring

585
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:03,300
games in there for sure. 
Yeah. 

586
00:29:03,700 --> 00:29:04,300
Yeah. 
It is tough. 

587
00:29:04,300 --> 00:29:06,900
I mean, you look at some of 
these like, I don't know if 

588
00:29:06,900 --> 00:29:10,100
people would have assumed like, 
New England, Seattle would have 

589
00:29:10,100 --> 00:29:13,100
been. 
Yeah, I wonder whether over 

590
00:29:13,100 --> 00:29:14,400
under. 
What do you think the over-under

591
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,600
was in this Seattle Denver one, 
where they just fucking truck? 

592
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,400
Sticked. 
I don't know. 

593
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:23,700
What year was that 2013? 
Yeah, 2014. 

594
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:26,500
Or that's when the game was yet,
2013 season. 

595
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,900
Because pro football reference 
list some of this stuff. 

596
00:29:30,900 --> 00:29:33,600
It's they have it is. 
Forty seven point five. 

597
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,800
So it went over we definitely 
got spoiled for a while. 

598
00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,500
When you look at like the 
scoring in some of these, it was

599
00:29:40,500 --> 00:29:44,400
really just a couple of these at
like really either bottomed out.

600
00:29:44,500 --> 00:29:47,800
I mean the that New England, Los
Angeles, Rams Super Bowl with a 

601
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,200
fucking travesty. 
That was terrible. 

602
00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:53,200
It's so bad where we were you in
Nashville. 

603
00:29:54,300 --> 00:29:56,500
Yeah. 
And it was like we had an 

604
00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:58,900
awesome crew. 
I remember I was That is sitting

605
00:29:58,900 --> 00:30:02,000
with silver and rebar and, like,
great people to watch a game 

606
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,800
with. 
And it was just a boring as 

607
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,800
football game, like, it really 
was. 

608
00:30:07,100 --> 00:30:10,400
Um, all right, everyone's gonna 
get plenty of Super Bowl takes 

609
00:30:10,400 --> 00:30:13,300
over the next week and a half. 
I did want to touch on some 

610
00:30:13,300 --> 00:30:17,600
early ATP stuff. 
I know on ffp. 

611
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,500
See, they've launched some 
initial best ball contest. 

612
00:30:19,500 --> 00:30:23,300
Underdog has the early 2023 if 
you want to kind of create your 

613
00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:27,300
own private 12 man's, but I did 
want to look at an industry 

614
00:30:27,300 --> 00:30:30,500
draft on a F PC. 
I believe Davis is in this 

615
00:30:30,500 --> 00:30:31,700
draft. 
Have you seen this board 

616
00:30:31,700 --> 00:30:34,000
floating around? 
It's like board float around. 

617
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:40,200
I haven't dug into it a ton. 
But yeah, I dug into a different

618
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,300
board that I saw over at 
stealing signals like a couple 

619
00:30:43,300 --> 00:30:46,000
weeks ago. 
I think it's fascinating to look

620
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:49,700
at these early drafts. 
I'm like excited to think of her

621
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:52,700
stuff. 
I am too and I don't know if 

622
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,700
these guys whoever I think this 
was Dan Williamson overhype. 

623
00:30:55,700 --> 00:30:57,800
Sleeper, he must have attended 
the Buckeye. 

624
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,700
Boom. 
Her school of screenshots here. 

625
00:30:59,700 --> 00:31:02,700
We are battling some pixel 
issues that we will try to fight

626
00:31:02,700 --> 00:31:05,700
through here. 
I mean, Gretsch, there are 

627
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:09,100
multiple things that fucking 
jump out to me, like crazy. 

628
00:31:09,100 --> 00:31:11,000
I'm going to point out. 
One of the things that seems 

629
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,000
fucking wild to me. 
I love Bruce Hall. 

630
00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,200
I think Bruce calls probably, 
you know, even appropriately 

631
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,600
valued, but Greece home. 
The third Javonte Williams in 

632
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,600
the mid seventh. 
Yeah, is that right? 

633
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:28,700
That's insane, right. 
I mean, the two of those in 

634
00:31:28,700 --> 00:31:30,700
conjunction with each other, 
don't make a lot of sense, 

635
00:31:30,700 --> 00:31:33,900
unless I understand their 
injuries, I can understand being

636
00:31:33,900 --> 00:31:36,400
a little bit concerned in a 
January, draf about it, injured 

637
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,900
players and not wanting to dive 
in and be like, yeah, maybe he 

638
00:31:38,900 --> 00:31:41,700
misses half the season, like, 
when we get a JK Dobbins, like, 

639
00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:43,100
I'll get my exposure to them 
later. 

640
00:31:43,100 --> 00:31:45,900
I can understand approaching 
things at this point in the year

641
00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:48,500
where you're cautious on 
players, but if you're going to 

642
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:52,100
be that cautious on Javon, I 
mean, like if you're going to be

643
00:31:52,100 --> 00:31:55,800
that aggressive on briefs and 
that draft, I think should have 

644
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,900
probably taken Javonte or 
somebody something isn't right 

645
00:31:59,900 --> 00:32:02,000
there. 
One or the other isn't, right? 

646
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:06,100
And also again, like I know this
is a self-contained 12-person 

647
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:09,200
league, but I mean, the 
risk-reward proposition on 

648
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,600
Javonte there. 
It's like there's basically no 

649
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,900
downside risk as a seventh-round
pick like nuts, a no-brainer. 

650
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:16,500
He's gonna at least play in the 
second half of the year. 

651
00:32:16,500 --> 00:32:17,800
Yeah. 
I he stands out to me 

652
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,200
immediately to the Dolphins up 
to me most right away. 

653
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:22,900
Is there six? 
Quarterbacks in the fourth 

654
00:32:22,900 --> 00:32:25,500
round? 
Yeah, I mean we do get Your 

655
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:29,500
quarterbacks in the early part 
of the offseason and we also get

656
00:32:31,100 --> 00:32:33,800
earlier quarterbacks in best 
ball and it's not like uncommon 

657
00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:35,600
and then we knew the 
quarterbacks are going to rise 

658
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:36,700
is here. 
Like that's something that's 

659
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:40,700
been discussed and actually a 
lot of people been saying they 

660
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:43,000
might go in the second round. 
The other one, the other board 

661
00:32:43,000 --> 00:32:45,700
that I looked at did have some 
second round quarterbacks at 

662
00:32:45,708 --> 00:32:48,000
least one Josh Allen. 
I think when the second round 

663
00:32:48,100 --> 00:32:50,400
this one you don't get a 
quarterback until 309. 

664
00:32:50,700 --> 00:32:53,700
But then starting a 401, you get
six in the next round. 

665
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,900
And I think there's That pull 
that we talked about with some 

666
00:32:56,900 --> 00:32:58,900
positions. 
Like, we talked biotite on the 

667
00:32:58,900 --> 00:33:00,800
most, I feel like we're like, 
you have the elites. 

668
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,300
And then the next group, always 
gets pulled up based on where 

669
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:08,200
the first names come off. 
The board Mahomes hurts Allen in

670
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,900
this range. 
I can kind of understand once 

671
00:33:10,900 --> 00:33:13,900
you start getting into like, 
Trevor Lawrence at 409, like, 

672
00:33:13,900 --> 00:33:15,900
isn't he just getting pulled up 
by the other names? 

673
00:33:15,900 --> 00:33:17,200
Why does Trevor Lawrence belong 
it for? 

674
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,300
And I can't make that case. 
That that one was like one of 

675
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:23,700
these things is not like the 
other, like if you extrapolate 

676
00:33:23,700 --> 00:33:27,100
Justin Fields season, And even, 
you know, more progress, more 

677
00:33:27,100 --> 00:33:30,300
weapons makes complete sense. 
Even Justin Herbert, you know, 

678
00:33:30,300 --> 00:33:33,300
kind of a snake bitten season, 
for them injury-wise, getting 

679
00:33:33,300 --> 00:33:36,300
Kellen Moore, I can buy that 
obviously no one needs to talk 

680
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:39,800
about Borough Allen hurts and 
then it's like Lawrence weight. 

681
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:42,600
Like Lawrence is going to be a 
rock-solid quarterback but man 

682
00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:45,900
to put him in that tier above 
Lamar Jackson like he should be 

683
00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:49,300
going around DAC and to and 
Cuyler, right? 

684
00:33:49,300 --> 00:33:52,400
Yeah, I mean even with the 
comments you made about fields 

685
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,700
and Herman stuff, my argument 
would be to take a quarterback 

686
00:33:54,700 --> 00:33:56,800
here. 
They Have to have massive 

687
00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,700
upside, we already know stuff 
about early quarterbacks. 

688
00:33:59,700 --> 00:34:02,000
The reason that we would be may 
be willing to take quarterbacks,

689
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,500
as high as they can score 
differently. 

690
00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:08,199
Now, in the modern NFL, the Josh
Allen's, a Jalen hurts with how 

691
00:34:08,199 --> 00:34:10,500
much how many points they can 
score on the Russian side. 

692
00:34:10,699 --> 00:34:13,900
In addition, to the passing 
stuff Mahomes is just very 

693
00:34:13,900 --> 00:34:15,300
unique. 
I actually think Burrows 

694
00:34:15,300 --> 00:34:17,400
probably overdrafted there as 
well. 

695
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:19,300
Yeah because he's more of a 
traditional quarterback. 

696
00:34:19,300 --> 00:34:22,100
I think you can put up a 
phenomenal passing season but 

697
00:34:22,100 --> 00:34:25,100
you're like asymmetrically 
betting on that ceiling. 

698
00:34:25,300 --> 00:34:28,100
In this range, we're talking 
about like what the opportunity 

699
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:32,500
cost is Fields, is interesting 
in the sense of humor and for 

700
00:34:32,500 --> 00:34:34,300
1,000 yards, this year. 
Like, you just said, if he 

701
00:34:34,300 --> 00:34:37,400
develops as a pastor, you can 
definitely justify. 

702
00:34:37,500 --> 00:34:41,100
He can score at that level. 
Trevor Lawrence has a little bit

703
00:34:41,100 --> 00:34:43,300
of Mobility, but for him to 
score at that level, he's got to

704
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:45,699
throw it for, like, five 
thousand yards and forty five. 

705
00:34:45,699 --> 00:34:48,600
Touchdowns like he's got to have
a Patrick Mahomes passing 

706
00:34:48,600 --> 00:34:50,500
season, maybe he develops into 
that. 

707
00:34:50,500 --> 00:34:53,199
But again, it's all baked in all
that upsides, baked in same 

708
00:34:53,199 --> 00:34:57,400
probably with Herbert in my mind
even Although I agree with you, 

709
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,600
I can understand her but a 
little more. 

710
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,300
That's why I emphasize the 
Lawrence pick but the guys that 

711
00:35:01,300 --> 00:35:03,700
are our, we're going to elevate 
this year. 

712
00:35:03,700 --> 00:35:06,800
Need to be guys that can score 
in a way that differentiate them

713
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:10,100
in a position where we do know 
some guys from the later rounds 

714
00:35:10,100 --> 00:35:11,600
are going to be able to score as
well. 

715
00:35:11,900 --> 00:35:16,000
Like you can't just pay the 
ceiling price on a player to 

716
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,700
lock in certainty. 
If you will for sure and 

717
00:35:18,700 --> 00:35:21,000
especially just like with best 
ball to and you look at some of 

718
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,900
these guys that are going in the
11-12 round. 

719
00:35:22,900 --> 00:35:25,100
It's like I'll take my, you know
safe. 

720
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,800
Floor bet Aaron Rodgers paired 
with a wild card upside bet, 

721
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:31,900
like Trey lands and I'll go 
toe-to-toe against your Trail. 

722
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:35,100
And look at those two V2s to of,
like, who's the skill position 

723
00:35:35,100 --> 00:35:36,500
player, you're drafting in the 
11th. 

724
00:35:36,500 --> 00:35:40,200
Like, it does seem very, very 
off to me. 

725
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:46,100
Well, and, and I mean, if you go
like, further down on this 

726
00:35:46,100 --> 00:35:49,700
board, I mean, way, I think you 
said to me earlier, Jordan loves

727
00:35:49,700 --> 00:35:52,200
and like, the 25th round or 
something on this. 

728
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:55,100
So there's some, there's an 
argument I would make about 

729
00:35:57,500 --> 00:35:59,600
Jordan loves not guaranteed to 
start this year but there's 

730
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,700
there's obviously discussion 
about Rogers, potentially being 

731
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:03,900
traded to the Jets and I think 
whoever gets whoever 

732
00:36:03,900 --> 00:36:05,500
quarterbacks for the Jets is 
going to be in a really good 

733
00:36:05,500 --> 00:36:06,300
spot. 
Coming up. 

734
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:11,900
Next year, you could be playing 
to some uncertainty at this 

735
00:36:11,900 --> 00:36:13,300
position. 
At this point in the year, sort 

736
00:36:13,300 --> 00:36:16,600
of the argument I would make, if
Rogers does get traded, I think 

737
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,900
he's a great pic honestly in the
11th round with that was 

738
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:21,200
Supporting Cast compared to the 
other prices that are being paid

739
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,600
here and also would make George 
love incredibly good pick. 

740
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,400
But if love He's like a 25th 
rounder. 

741
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:30,100
It's sort of just that sort of 
arguing that this room doesn't 

742
00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,200
believe that Rodgers is going to
get traded. 

743
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,100
If you don't believe Rogers 
going to get traded in some of 

744
00:36:34,107 --> 00:36:37,100
the guys like a Derek Carr. 
For example, for me who goes in 

745
00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:39,600
the 13th round, there becomes 
really interesting because he 

746
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:41,700
becomes one of the probably 
favorites to be. 

747
00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:44,200
I mean, he's a good enough 
quarterback that he's going to 

748
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,200
start somewhere, right? 
He's going to start. 

749
00:36:47,900 --> 00:36:49,600
Either for the Jets made for 
Tampa. 

750
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,100
Now with Brady, we're trying 
obviously from this Dreadful has

751
00:36:52,100 --> 00:36:55,800
done pretty wasn't retired yet 
and so he goes earlier than he 

752
00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:59,100
would have but I mean some of 
the guys like a Derek Carr. 

753
00:36:59,100 --> 00:37:02,700
For example who doesn't have a 
team right now I like that price

754
00:37:02,700 --> 00:37:04,800
in the 13th round. 
Like there's a good chance he 

755
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,900
goes somewhere where he has some
pretty good weapons. 

756
00:37:08,900 --> 00:37:11,600
I don't I haven't looked like 
all the quarterbacks but it just

757
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:16,200
like love in the like 25th seems
like an easy pick to like, 

758
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:20,600
that's just crazy. 
For sure and even like the odds 

759
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,800
of Mac Jones outscoring, Trevor 
Lawrence, next year, are a lot 

760
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,400
smaller than a 19th round. 
Verse fourth round, right? 

761
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:31,700
Different than 80 the tubing 
twos you were talking about. 

762
00:37:31,700 --> 00:37:36,100
I mean, the crazy ya. 
Um, a couple other interesting 

763
00:37:36,100 --> 00:37:37,700
ones here, let's do the Kyle 
pits thing. 

764
00:37:38,300 --> 00:37:41,100
This is an outlier as Paul V 
notes, I've seen a couple other 

765
00:37:41,100 --> 00:37:43,000
boards Jameson. 
Actually, just DM me another 

766
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,100
board. 
We can pull up is, well, I've 

767
00:37:45,100 --> 00:37:46,700
seen him more going in the 
third. 

768
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,500
Or fourth round. 
It's interesting that he goes in

769
00:37:49,500 --> 00:37:52,200
the 6th Round Here of an 
industry draft for some reason. 

770
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,900
I just would assume the 
industry, people would be a lot 

771
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:57,700
less like hey I'm never drafting
this guy again. 

772
00:37:57,700 --> 00:37:59,100
Those kind of knee-jerk 
reactions. 

773
00:37:59,100 --> 00:38:01,300
You normally hear from the 
public for him to go in the 

774
00:38:01,300 --> 00:38:03,900
sixth round here. 
Does seem wild and I realized we

775
00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:06,500
are both incredibly biased but 
that's mispriced. 

776
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,500
That's Miss price in the sixth. 
But I mean I'm I'm gonna take a 

777
00:38:12,500 --> 00:38:19,000
slow walk. 
I'm a big guy but I was ready to

778
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:22,900
get it going. 
Yeah, I'm gonna give it a little

779
00:38:22,900 --> 00:38:24,900
bit of room to breathe. 
Arthur Smith is back. 

780
00:38:24,900 --> 00:38:28,400
I was really hoping you wouldn't
be, I think red or was a 

781
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,300
positive but he still didn't 
throw a lot. 

782
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:32,900
I still think this team is not 
going to throw a ton of passes. 

783
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:40,000
And I mean Arthur Smith is 
legitimately like a like a 

784
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,100
really shitty cool coach from 
for fantasy like it's just not 

785
00:38:43,100 --> 00:38:48,100
good and we saw some of those 
concerns even that existed for 

786
00:38:48,100 --> 00:38:50,900
Marquis Andrews. 
I mean, Mark Andrews. 

787
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,000
You look at his season from 
like, week, 8 on, it doesn't 

788
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:55,700
look much different than Kyle 
pit season. 

789
00:38:55,700 --> 00:38:59,800
It's just, you know, we got the 
Privacy stuff where the first 

790
00:39:00,100 --> 00:39:03,700
series of his games were very 
strong but you start. 

791
00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:06,800
What is it like? 
It's actually we 87 on he had 

792
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,400
week 17. 
He had a nine catch hundred yard

793
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:14,100
game but other than that, he 
didn't go over like 65 yards at 

794
00:39:14,100 --> 00:39:16,700
any point, he had a bunch of to 
catch three catches for catch 

795
00:39:16,700 --> 00:39:20,400
games and looked a lot like pits
that line, frankly, for more 

796
00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:23,300
than half the season, it's not 
how he's going to be remembered,

797
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:25,200
but I also have a hard time with
him at 13th. 

798
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,300
Overall for the same reason 
liked it. 

799
00:39:27,500 --> 00:39:29,900
The offense might not thought to
know if Lamar Jackson actually 

800
00:39:29,900 --> 00:39:31,500
leaves, which I don't think he 
will think he's gonna get 

801
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:35,500
franchise tag, but maybe that 
offense change Or maybe they 

802
00:39:35,500 --> 00:39:37,200
develop it with a different 
offensive coordinator, because 

803
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:41,400
Greg Romans gone. 
But it like I'm a little bit 

804
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:45,000
concerned about what we saw out 
of those offenses with those 

805
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,300
tight ends. 
Yeah, that's fair. 

806
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:49,100
I get it. 
Also, I do want to know, I'm 

807
00:39:49,100 --> 00:39:51,500
pretty sure. 
I'm pretty sure this is Davis is

808
00:39:51,500 --> 00:39:55,600
team who did pull the trigger? 
The, I heard him say took be 

809
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:56,900
Chad Robertson in the first 
round. 

810
00:39:56,900 --> 00:39:58,900
I do believe this is a Davis to 
jail Eduardo. 

811
00:39:58,900 --> 00:40:02,000
Chris olave rib. 
Andre Lamar, Kyle pits and then 

812
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,300
Quinton Johnson were shot while 
yeah, this has Davis is 

813
00:40:04,300 --> 00:40:06,100
fingerprints. 
All over, he fell on all the 

814
00:40:06,100 --> 00:40:07,800
grenades, took Trail ants as 
well. 

815
00:40:08,500 --> 00:40:11,500
I mean, there's love the train, 
we inspect especially now that 

816
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,300
birdie Purdy's hurt. 
They just said today in an 

817
00:40:14,300 --> 00:40:16,500
interview, they're not, there's 
no way graupel is coming back. 

818
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,800
Everyone was trying to connect 
the dots with Brady. 

819
00:40:18,900 --> 00:40:21,000
No one wants to believe, they 
actually liked raelians, but 

820
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,400
they made him their starter last
year and then he got hurt. 

821
00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:26,800
And all of the Russian 
quarterbacks worked really well 

822
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,500
against the defense's that teams
have are running in the modern 

823
00:40:29,500 --> 00:40:32,700
NFL, I think Trey Lance would 
have had a fantastic season this

824
00:40:32,700 --> 00:40:34,400
year. 
I'll be back in entree, Lance 

825
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:37,100
next year. 
These prices especially and I 

826
00:40:37,100 --> 00:40:38,600
think the Niners are still in on
trailing. 

827
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,200
They're like, that's another 
element. 

828
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:44,600
He could have added to our 
otherwise lead offense. 

829
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,100
As he could have added a 
rushing, a quarterback rushing 

830
00:40:47,100 --> 00:40:50,100
element that, you know, the 
Eagles have with Jalen hurts 

831
00:40:50,100 --> 00:40:55,300
that, you know, the Giants use 
Daniel Jones took to, in 

832
00:40:55,300 --> 00:40:58,900
positive ways to go farther than
I think they should have heat. 

833
00:40:58,900 --> 00:41:01,500
They really lean into that in 
their win, over the Vikings in 

834
00:41:01,500 --> 00:41:03,900
the playoffs. 
There's a lot of teams that use 

835
00:41:03,900 --> 00:41:08,500
the quarterback rushing 
Effectively this year, I don't 

836
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,200
really see why. 
So many people think the train 

837
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:11,400
Lance is not going to start next
year. 

838
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:14,800
I think like it's, it's the 
favorite and, and like a pretty 

839
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,600
solid favor. 
Yeah, I think you're right. 

840
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:21,100
And I will also say like a lot 
has changed literally in like 

841
00:41:21,100 --> 00:41:24,400
the past 24 hours is far as them
saying Jimmy garoppolo's for 

842
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,300
sure gone. 
Tom Brady retiring. 

843
00:41:26,300 --> 00:41:29,900
I mean, literally yesterday he 
was plus 150 to be on the Niners

844
00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:32,800
and betting markets. 
Like stuff has changed so much 

845
00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:34,800
and really cleared out in a way 
obviously. 

846
00:41:34,900 --> 00:41:37,800
SLI, they've gotten a pretty 
Rosy timeline for pretty. 

847
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,400
It sounds like he should be 
fully good to go, but I do think

848
00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,600
we are going to get an epic 
Brock /, Deaver stray, Lance can

849
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,100
battle. 
And it's like, man, the Niners 

850
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:48,200
are in this six spot because 
it's like the bird. 

851
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,200
In the hand, they know exactly 
what Purdy is. 

852
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,000
They know what is upside, is, 
they know, like what he can do 

853
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,400
for the team and it's probably 
losing to the Eagles in the 

854
00:41:55,408 --> 00:42:00,600
conference Championship game. 
And I don't even think, I think 

855
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,200
I would argue that the camp 
battle thing is going to be Less

856
00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:06,100
of a battle than it feels like 
because he's gonna be coming 

857
00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:08,000
back from they sense a fully 
torn, you see? 

858
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:11,000
Alright, I've seen the six to 
nine-month timeline stuff but in

859
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,100
like baseball that's like an 
18-month injury and I don't win.

860
00:42:14,100 --> 00:42:16,800
I know it's different, but the 
quotes have been three to six 

861
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,800
month timeline. 
And I'm obviously everyone's 

862
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:22,000
going to paint a more optimistic
picture than his, maybe reality,

863
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,400
but everything coming out from 
them. 

864
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,400
Now as he's going to be, he's 
going to be fine. 

865
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:29,300
But yeah, I guess I feel like 
he's gonna still be rehabbing 

866
00:42:29,300 --> 00:42:33,400
six months from now in August 
and Lance is going to be 

867
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,800
healthier. 
I mean, Lance had a pretty 

868
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,700
significant injury to, but I'm 
pretty sure it was just like, 

869
00:42:37,700 --> 00:42:41,400
clean breaks his leg right? 
Like pretty and I mean, if 

870
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,600
you're the Niners, you're in a 
good spot, ultimately, right? 

871
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:46,000
Like, you should be starting, 
Lance, and then know that you 

872
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,200
have one of the best backup 
quarterbacks in the league, 

873
00:42:48,300 --> 00:42:50,000
right? 
Why pretty other portals like a 

874
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,900
great backup for next season as 
he sort of rehabs and they can 

875
00:42:52,900 --> 00:42:54,700
kind of. 
But I think they're going to go 

876
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:58,000
into the year with Lance's, a 
starter and and use parties 

877
00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:01,100
injury is sort of like he's 
going to be our back and maybe 

878
00:43:01,100 --> 00:43:03,700
he takes over midseason. 
If he's like you know totally 

879
00:43:03,700 --> 00:43:06,900
fine I think it is going to be 
optimistic to assume if he had a

880
00:43:06,908 --> 00:43:10,800
fully torn UCLA UCLA and needs 
Tommy John surgery that he's 

881
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,700
going to be ready seven months 
from now to play in an NFL game.

882
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:16,600
I don't think that's going to 
happen based on what the pitch 

883
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,900
baseball timeline. 
Said, you know that I'm familiar

884
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:20,400
with, right? 
Yeah. 

885
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:26,200
And you know, the when you think
about the information ambiguity,

886
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:30,700
like hammering, a guy like lands
who, you know, early on before 

887
00:43:30,700 --> 00:43:33,600
like if he is solidified as the 
Order again, like he's gonna go 

888
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,100
exactly where he did last year 
which is like a sixth and 

889
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:40,800
seventh round pick like drafters
now like ourselves are so in 

890
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,400
love with the upside scenarios. 
Like there's not going to be a 

891
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,900
trail and discount if you heard 
anything from the Niners, your 

892
00:43:46,900 --> 00:43:49,700
way more in tune with the news. 
And I am that suggests that they

893
00:43:49,700 --> 00:43:52,800
are in any way. 
Disenchanted with Trey, Lance 

894
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,300
because I have not heard 
anything from the team. 

895
00:43:55,300 --> 00:43:58,700
It's a lot of fantasy football 
speculation that basically is 

896
00:43:58,700 --> 00:44:02,200
what we do every time a player 
gets injured after a like, yeah.

897
00:44:02,300 --> 00:44:04,900
They sat in the whole rookie 
year and then you got hurt. 

898
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:06,400
And so it's like, it's been two 
years. 

899
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,100
We've had a bunch of hype. 
He's not performed to the hype 

900
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,900
and part because he hasn't 
played or almost entirely 

901
00:44:11,900 --> 00:44:14,600
because he hasn't played, but I 
don't think the Niners are 

902
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,600
looking at it. 
Like, oh, we're done with train.

903
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,200
Lance. 
Right? 

904
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,300
What have you seen anything like
that from the team? 

905
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,900
I haven't seen anything like 
that. 

906
00:44:22,900 --> 00:44:26,300
I mean, the one thing that was 
interesting, and I saw who 

907
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,400
pointed this out? 
Oh yeah, Kyle. 

908
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:31,800
So there was the thing where the
former like I think it was like 

909
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:35,800
director Player Personnel is. 
Now the GM of the Titans and 

910
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:39,000
when that happened Trail ants on
his Instagram, did a photo of it

911
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,200
and like the crossing fingers 
Emoji with like, you know, you 

912
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,400
connect the dots. 
And so, the only extrapolation 

913
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,600
for me there is just Trail ants 
feeling like he's now an 

914
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,400
outsider in his own organization
and wanting a fresh start. 

915
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:56,500
But this is all before, a lot of
stuff has since happened to 

916
00:44:56,500 --> 00:44:59,400
where now his path to being the 
starting quarterback isn't near 

917
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,200
as you know, difficult as it 
would have been a week ago. 

918
00:45:02,300 --> 00:45:04,800
No, I mean, I guess the way I 
was looking at is like, yeah, 

919
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,100
pretty took him to the 
conference Championship, but 

920
00:45:07,100 --> 00:45:09,700
soda Garoppolo last year and 
they still started last week. 

921
00:45:09,700 --> 00:45:11,600
One this year. 
Like they, they made a decision,

922
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:14,600
they wanted Lance over Garoppolo
after he did the same thing and 

923
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,700
Garoppolo was more established 
than Purdy ever was, right? 

924
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,600
I think it would be a pretty big
decision for the Niners to 

925
00:45:22,100 --> 00:45:25,200
having not really seen Lance 
play much to throw in the towel 

926
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,700
and just move on and be ready 
for Brock. 

927
00:45:27,700 --> 00:45:30,800
Pretty to be there guy. 
Yeah, I see people in the chat 

928
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,100
saying that it can't be a 
six-month injury and again this 

929
00:45:33,100 --> 00:45:35,400
is coming from Kyle Shanahan. 
He's always going to paint an 

930
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:38,700
optimistic scenario, but the 
report from Mike Garrett follow 

931
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:40,200
today. 
Shanahan says, the most 

932
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,100
encouraging thing. 
He's heard on Purdy as if 

933
00:45:42,100 --> 00:45:44,300
surgery is done. 
He'll build up his arm strength 

934
00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:46,300
from three to six months. 
By six months, I'll be the same 

935
00:45:46,300 --> 00:45:49,300
dude and ready to go. 
So I guess you can you can call 

936
00:45:49,300 --> 00:45:52,600
bullshit on that or you can say 
there's a kernel of truth but 

937
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,200
they're taking a more positive 
angle on it. 

938
00:45:56,300 --> 00:45:58,500
I'm going to pull up this other 
draft board that you might be 

939
00:45:58,500 --> 00:46:00,800
different. 
Be different from baseball to 

940
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:02,600
football to. 
There's a lot more velocity in 

941
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:04,100
baseball. 
There's a lot more torque on the

942
00:46:04,100 --> 00:46:05,500
elbow. 
It could just be a yeah, 

943
00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:08,500
different thing. 
I'm going to pull up this draft 

944
00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:11,400
board just because it's a little
easier to look at. 

945
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:15,800
Let's hook our guy up here, Kyle
came out, firing in the chat. 

946
00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:19,500
Calvin, Ridley's ATP. 
He was going and I think it was 

947
00:46:19,500 --> 00:46:20,800
the sixth round in that other 
one. 

948
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,300
He goes in the fifth round here.
What are your early thoughts on 

949
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,200
Calvin Ridley value? 
Think the market tends to be 

950
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:30,200
optimistic on? 
Layers like this that have 

951
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:33,200
missed a ton of time. 
I mean, I think the best example

952
00:46:35,300 --> 00:46:37,000
would be Michael Thomas this 
last offseason. 

953
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:38,700
Obviously Thomas gets hurt 
again. 

954
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:42,200
It's not like really clean and 
easy but a lot of times like 

955
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,500
you're going to get people going
to be like Calvin Ridley is 

956
00:46:44,500 --> 00:46:47,500
going to play just like he did 
when he was at his Peak he 

957
00:46:47,500 --> 00:46:50,100
wasn't even very good in 2021 
for the five games. 

958
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:53,900
In fact he was really bad before
he got suspended and and but saw

959
00:46:53,900 --> 00:46:56,600
that was off the field stuff and
he kind of decided to step away 

960
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,100
from the team and then he got 
suspended. 

961
00:46:58,400 --> 00:46:59,200
Don't really know what was going
on. 

962
00:46:59,300 --> 00:47:02,800
Everybody's got look at his like
game logs everything or season 

963
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,700
career logs. 
What have you 2020? 

964
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:09,300
Was his fantastic year was 
really good in 2018, 2019. 

965
00:47:09,400 --> 00:47:11,100
Those are the rookie and second 
Seasons. 

966
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:13,700
That was sort of what I would 
call his Peak. 

967
00:47:14,100 --> 00:47:17,100
I think what people tend to do 
is just go. 

968
00:47:17,100 --> 00:47:18,300
Okay. 
Well, he was this good at his 

969
00:47:18,300 --> 00:47:20,100
Peak. 
He still young enough. 

970
00:47:20,100 --> 00:47:23,100
He's 28 right now that he could,
you know, he'll play to that 

971
00:47:23,100 --> 00:47:25,400
level but we are removed from 
those Seasons. 

972
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:29,400
You don't know where he's at, 
physically necessarily we Don't 

973
00:47:29,400 --> 00:47:32,700
know how he'll fit as well, and 
a new offense and all those 

974
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:35,900
layers. 
I think he can be good, but I 

975
00:47:35,900 --> 00:47:38,900
think in these situations, the 
market has shown time and again,

976
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,000
that it has a tendency to like 
paint a really Rosy picture. 

977
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,200
And it's another one of the ones
that I'd argue where we start to

978
00:47:45,207 --> 00:47:46,400
draft. 
These guys, close to their 

979
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:50,200
ceilings fifth round here, 
probably not close to his 

980
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,500
ceiling. 
Obviously, we've seen Calvin 

981
00:47:51,500 --> 00:47:55,000
Ridley, play to like first round
and capabilities and if Trevor 

982
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:56,300
Lawrence takes a huge step 
forward. 

983
00:47:56,300 --> 00:47:59,200
I mean, he could be really good.
I think he's going to rise from 

984
00:47:59,300 --> 00:48:02,900
Here honestly really? 
Yeah, I mean like we didn't play

985
00:48:02,900 --> 00:48:05,800
last year so when the first 
drafts I feel like a lot of it 

986
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:10,000
is drafting off of last year's 
you know big names and scoring a

987
00:48:10,008 --> 00:48:12,300
lot of times these guys that 
Miss time are forgotten about 

988
00:48:12,300 --> 00:48:15,500
it, but Michael Thomas was a 
lot, lower in January last year 

989
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:19,600
than he wound up in August, but 
trailing Burke's are Calvin 

990
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,900
Ridley. 
I think I would take Ridley 

991
00:48:22,900 --> 00:48:28,500
their Birds, is still a guy that
I want, but another offensive 

992
00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:30,800
can, you know, team concerns. 
I think I'm going to be a little

993
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:34,500
bit more wary of that this year 
after we saw the whole league be

994
00:48:34,500 --> 00:48:37,000
down. 
And I think that could carry 

995
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:39,300
over to next year where you're 
going to want the offenses that 

996
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:42,200
are actually capable of being 
special as opposed to the ones 

997
00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:44,800
that are just dumpster Fires for
fantasy. 

998
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:47,600
And the Titans might be a 
dumpster fire for Fantasy next 

999
00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,500
year, talk about a fall from 
grace, Gabe Davis. 

1000
00:48:51,700 --> 00:48:54,000
You know a man who had found 
himself into what the third 

1001
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,700
fourth round is some draft now 
all the way down in the eighth 

1002
00:48:56,700 --> 00:48:58,400
round here. 
But I like that price. 

1003
00:48:58,500 --> 00:49:00,600
I mean, did he have like an 
ankle injury all year? 

1004
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:03,500
He hurt himself early. 
He still performed a little bit 

1005
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:06,700
in the playoffs. 
The gate Davis discourses 

1006
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,400
nonsense, it's been it's been a 
Larry is on Twitter. 

1007
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,100
All year. 
There's a lot of discussion 

1008
00:49:12,100 --> 00:49:15,100
about him. 
I think he's a good player did 

1009
00:49:15,100 --> 00:49:19,200
not play to his capabilities. 
This year, not something I'm 

1010
00:49:19,207 --> 00:49:21,400
gonna pound table for all 
offseason because again, there's

1011
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:25,400
a A lot of Gabe Davis discussion
and there's been a lot of 

1012
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:27,700
Victory laps about him, not 
performing particularly well 

1013
00:49:27,700 --> 00:49:29,600
this year, but he still made 
some plays. 

1014
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,400
You still saw the shape of the 
stuff that he can do the Bills. 

1015
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,600
Probably added receiver though. 
So I mean that's the one thing 

1016
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,000
that's a little tough in the 
early offseason we don't know 

1017
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:40,800
for sure. 
Where they're going to be, 

1018
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:43,100
whether he's got a project for a
ton of routes, you know? 

1019
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,600
Yeah. 
And I mean you saw that the 

1020
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:50,500
press conference with their GM 
to it how salty he was about the

1021
00:49:50,500 --> 00:49:53,500
questions about adding another 
Elite fast catcher say okay, we 

1022
00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:56,400
didn't have to tank to get your 
bar Chase, like you could tell 

1023
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,100
that that got under his skin, 
even that question, that's going

1024
00:49:59,100 --> 00:50:00,500
to be something. 
He's going to be thinking about 

1025
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:06,300
all offseason. 
For sure, for sure you got the 

1026
00:50:06,300 --> 00:50:08,500
quarterbacks going really high 
here again. 

1027
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,700
It's I mean these drafts are 
fun. 

1028
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:17,500
There's not a lot of receivers 
going early Pete like where we 

1029
00:50:17,500 --> 00:50:22,800
can be pissed boys. 
Again I don't always like dude 

1030
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:26,700
like I love Ramon Ray Stevenson.
Second round, Ramon Ray 

1031
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:29,500
Stevenson feels like playing 
with some fucking fire. 

1032
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:34,300
Second round Josh Jacobs. 
I mean, you got DJ more in the 

1033
00:50:34,300 --> 00:50:36,400
fifth, Chris Godwin in the 
fifth. 

1034
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,000
Michael Pittman, I don't even 
really love, but I like him in 

1035
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,500
the fifth Judy, Mike Williams in
the six Christian Watson. 

1036
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:47,500
I don't while love, but I'm 
taking in the six Terror. 

1037
00:50:47,500 --> 00:50:50,600
Maclaurins Al 86, like, look at 
these names Marquis Browns in 

1038
00:50:50,607 --> 00:50:53,500
the seventh, there's Portland 
Sutton's in this. 

1039
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:56,100
Deante, Johnson is right there 
with Gabe Davis and the eighth, 

1040
00:50:56,100 --> 00:50:58,500
I don't again, don't think you 
want to Johnson had a good year 

1041
00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:01,600
this year, but Jameson Williams 
and Richard Bateman or a 

1042
00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:04,100
Founders, you know. 
All those wide receiver prices 

1043
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:05,600
Darnell, who needs a ninth round
her. 

1044
00:51:05,607 --> 00:51:07,800
Now, I don't think Darnell Moon,
he's amazing, but I'll take him 

1045
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:10,900
in the ninth round to. 
This eighth round is pretty 

1046
00:51:10,900 --> 00:51:13,600
loaded. 
Bateman some rookies Jameson 

1047
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,400
Williams. 
I love that price there for him.

1048
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,000
Gabe gave his and deante Johnson
that a throughout it. 

1049
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:21,100
You don't see eighth round like 
that. 

1050
00:51:21,100 --> 00:51:24,200
Come September. 
I promise you that and it does 

1051
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:27,200
thin out like you look at the 
the 12th. 

1052
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,000
I mean there's you start to get 
a lot of rookies here in the 

1053
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,700
ninth tenth. 
Eleventh twelfth, like Skies 

1054
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:32,900
going in the tent. 
I'm gonna be his Learned about 

1055
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:36,600
taking sky in the 10th. 
After what we saw this year in 

1056
00:51:36,600 --> 00:51:39,000
Romeo Dobbs, I love but he's 
still going to the 12th. 

1057
00:51:39,700 --> 00:51:42,700
I like I do like Wanda and 12th.
I like Elijah the 12th to 13th. 

1058
00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:45,500
You're getting into like Lazard 
Hunter Renfro, it does start to 

1059
00:51:45,500 --> 00:51:46,700
thin out. 
Those are not names that I'm 

1060
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:50,700
like thrilled to take the fact 
that you could get like five 

1061
00:51:50,700 --> 00:51:53,400
really good receivers by the 
eighth round and still be able 

1062
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:55,900
to take a couple of detours. 
Take six you take seven really 

1063
00:51:55,900 --> 00:52:00,200
good receivers by the a cramp. 
I mean, it's a fun proposition 

1064
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,800
in the early parts of these 
drafts. 

1065
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,400
It's kind of insane like I know 
and I don't even remember who 

1066
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,100
the show was that kind of steam 
Sky more up and I know some 

1067
00:52:09,100 --> 00:52:12,800
shows talking about him a lot 
but before that like this was 

1068
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,600
where Sky more was going, it 
drafts. 

1069
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,600
And we have an entire season of 
information and he's going in 

1070
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,500
the exact same place. 
Right? 

1071
00:52:21,500 --> 00:52:24,500
Like, how's that possible? 
He's gotta go lower than this 

1072
00:52:24,500 --> 00:52:30,300
and the same time like I mean if
he goes a lot lower than this I 

1073
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:32,200
am going to want to take some 
steps at him. 

1074
00:52:33,100 --> 00:52:36,600
Yeah so I can understand why 
people are willing to bet into 

1075
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:39,400
like okay well it is your 2 and 
he's still tied a patch of moms 

1076
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:41,600
like well apparently we're going
to tell that story again this 

1077
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:46,400
year I don't know if someone 
else might have to pick up the 

1078
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:50,900
Baton of that story, right? 
Ah let's see here other I mean 

1079
00:52:50,900 --> 00:52:54,500
I'll be the first to admit I 
don't I mean I know Jackson 

1080
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:58,300
Smith and jig but I know Bijan. 
Robinson. 

1081
00:52:58,300 --> 00:53:01,300
But man, I am I am green on 
these rookies so I can't really 

1082
00:53:01,300 --> 00:53:04,000
speak on on any of the 
valuations here other than 

1083
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:07,000
loading up on these guys at 
cheap prices early on has 

1084
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:10,900
generally been a winning 
strategy, I'm pretty green on it

1085
00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:12,500
as well. 
I know people are talking about 

1086
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:15,900
Robinson is like a top-20 pick. 
I mentioned that in my subset 

1087
00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:20,100
post where as much as we talk 
about how running back value has

1088
00:53:20,100 --> 00:53:22,900
fallen, it's actually start that
fall start a long time though. 

1089
00:53:22,900 --> 00:53:25,700
You look at the last decade 
there have only been five 

1090
00:53:25,700 --> 00:53:29,600
running backs have gone in the 
top 20 rounds that Back to like 

1091
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,700
Todd Gurley and Melvin Gordon 
were both. 

1092
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:36,000
Excuse me, top 20, overall picks
in the NFL draft, they were both

1093
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,800
in the top 20 in the same draft.
You have McCafferty, you have 

1094
00:53:40,700 --> 00:53:45,300
for net Zeke and sake 166 
running backs in the last like 

1095
00:53:45,300 --> 00:53:48,700
ten drafts before girly and 
Melvin which was the same draft.

1096
00:53:48,700 --> 00:53:51,300
They went 10 and 15. 
There was like three years where

1097
00:53:51,300 --> 00:53:52,900
there was no running back to one
of the top 20. 

1098
00:53:52,900 --> 00:53:55,600
They were either you know 
there's there's late first round

1099
00:53:55,600 --> 00:54:00,700
running backs but those top 20 
picks In most years, people talk

1100
00:54:00,700 --> 00:54:03,500
about how the there are 
basically like 20 Blue Chip 

1101
00:54:03,500 --> 00:54:06,200
prospects in the late first. 
Is it should almost be viewed as

1102
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:09,800
like the top 20 is the first 
round grade late first, is more 

1103
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,200
like the early 2nd, you know, 
extension if you will. 

1104
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:17,000
Like it's not a clean cut off. 
At the end of the first round, 

1105
00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,600
we should think of the top 20 as
sort of a separate thing. 

1106
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,700
And there's only been a handful 
of running backs. 

1107
00:54:22,700 --> 00:54:25,300
I just named or six running 
backs that have been in the top 

1108
00:54:25,300 --> 00:54:28,200
20 in the last decade and most 
of them have been Were stars. 

1109
00:54:28,500 --> 00:54:31,600
Again, Berkeley McCaffrey for 
Nets like the least accomplished

1110
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,300
but Zeke Todd Gurley, Melvin 
Gordon. 

1111
00:54:33,300 --> 00:54:35,800
These are all guys that have 
been top three fantasy running 

1112
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,500
backs over multiple Seasons. 
People are talking about Bijan 

1113
00:54:39,500 --> 00:54:41,100
has as potentially being like 
that. 

1114
00:54:41,100 --> 00:54:42,700
I can see why he goes in the 
second round here. 

1115
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:43,800
I've seen him in the first 
round. 

1116
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:44,600
I think he was in the first 
thing. 

1117
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,800
The other one. 
We looked at it makes sense for 

1118
00:54:46,800 --> 00:54:50,200
him to be going that high. 
If he's going to get drafted 

1119
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,900
with that type of capital 
particularly if is a shot to go 

1120
00:54:53,900 --> 00:54:58,700
like in the top 15 or top 10, 
Landing spot still is going to 

1121
00:54:58,700 --> 00:55:02,000
matter a ton for him though. 
Then there's the other back that

1122
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,100
Pat was telling us about Jamar 
Gibbs, right? 

1123
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:06,900
Yeah. 
He's 701. 

1124
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:09,200
And I think that's a pretty nice
price for him. 

1125
00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:11,900
Probably at 7:01 I've seen him 
in like the fourth. 

1126
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:15,300
Yeah, Quinton Johnson in the 
eighth. 

1127
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:17,900
Are you missing mentioned 
Jackson Smith and jig but 

1128
00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:20,900
Johnson's a guy from TCU that 
people really like is looking 

1129
00:55:20,900 --> 00:55:24,100
like I'll be the top. 
Receiver, drafted or Jordan 

1130
00:55:24,100 --> 00:55:27,500
Addison who went and I know one 
that's just I mean I don't know 

1131
00:55:27,500 --> 00:55:31,000
a lot about their profiles yet. 
That's just from looking at some

1132
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:34,100
expected draft, Capital stuff 
that those guys probably make a 

1133
00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:35,400
lot of sense in the eighth and 
the ninth. 

1134
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:37,600
If they go in the first round 
and there will be receivers in 

1135
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:39,500
the first round the way that 
receiver, I'll for sure 

1136
00:55:41,300 --> 00:55:44,600
receiver, contracts have blown 
up, there's going to be, people 

1137
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,400
are talking like this. 
Here might be the others are not

1138
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:47,800
going to be a lot of receivers 
in the first round. 

1139
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:49,800
I think that trend is probably 
here to stay, right? 

1140
00:55:49,800 --> 00:55:52,200
Like we're going to get four or 
five or six in the first round. 

1141
00:55:52,500 --> 00:55:54,200
I think pretty much every year 
going for. 

1142
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,400
Teens are getting more spread 
they want depth at receiver. 

1143
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:01,200
I just saw, you know somebody, I
don't know who but I saw his 

1144
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:04,800
face Sirius XM host, on Twitter,
the other day, talking about how

1145
00:56:04,800 --> 00:56:07,200
the new meta is to have two 
Elite receivers or something 

1146
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,200
like that. 
I don't do you know who that 

1147
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:10,800
was. 
Yeah, I don't know why they keep

1148
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,600
posting those clubs. 
You gotta get those receivers 

1149
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,100
though I mean that is a real 
thing. 

1150
00:56:16,500 --> 00:56:22,100
Yeah I what do you think so 
Jameson here, 11th round. 

1151
00:56:22,500 --> 00:56:28,100
Maybe I'm just so burned by not 
having any Josh Jacobs last year

1152
00:56:28,100 --> 00:56:30,300
that I'm like, fucking David 
Montgomery 11 throughout. 

1153
00:56:30,300 --> 00:56:33,500
Doesn't look too bad. 
I mean, I would take Dave, I'm 

1154
00:56:33,500 --> 00:56:35,600
coming eleventh row. 
That's the thing is. 

1155
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:38,900
Like, that's the other thing. 
I'm look, I'm seeing when I look

1156
00:56:38,900 --> 00:56:41,700
at this is like, yeah, early on.
You want to get running backs 

1157
00:56:41,700 --> 00:56:42,900
that, you know, we're going to 
have roles. 

1158
00:56:42,900 --> 00:56:45,200
And you can get burnt really 
quick with running backs. 

1159
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:49,100
But do you really want to pay 
the iron price for Josh Jacobs 

1160
00:56:49,100 --> 00:56:50,900
in the second round if you can 
get David Montgomery and the 

1161
00:56:50,900 --> 00:56:53,100
11th when it means the 
difference between Tween one of 

1162
00:56:53,100 --> 00:56:56,500
these Elite receivers that are 
going to that range and you 

1163
00:56:56,500 --> 00:56:58,700
know, you're making a rookie 
stabbed in the 11th. 

1164
00:56:58,700 --> 00:57:02,800
I do think the rookie prices are
nice but looks like they flowers

1165
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:05,300
is another rookie was the next 
receiver after Montgomery. 

1166
00:57:05,900 --> 00:57:09,300
The next receiver after Jacob 
was get Wilson, mr. 

1167
00:57:09,300 --> 00:57:12,000
Wilson. 
Good CQB, upgrade gonna be 

1168
00:57:12,100 --> 00:57:15,000
wheels up. 
Yeah I'm taking Wilson 

1169
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:18,100
Montgomery over. 
Jacobs has a flowers every day. 

1170
00:57:18,700 --> 00:57:20,400
Yeah. 
Yeah. 

1171
00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:22,000
Let us know in the chat. 
What else? 

1172
00:57:22,500 --> 00:57:26,200
Jumps out to you guys on this 
board as being interesting, 

1173
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:29,400
anything else here for you, 
Gretch. 

1174
00:57:30,100 --> 00:57:34,800
I think the running backs is a 
great point but it is tough in 

1175
00:57:34,800 --> 00:57:38,000
early drafts. 
I probably think if I was doing 

1176
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:40,600
a bunch of dress right now, I 
probably would be looking to 

1177
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:45,700
take an anchor running back or 
two, maybe even because you do 

1178
00:57:45,700 --> 00:57:47,300
have some trouble in these later
rounds. 

1179
00:57:47,300 --> 00:57:49,400
A lot of these guys are not even
going to have rolls. 

1180
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:51,600
You start getting down to like 
the 15th round. 

1181
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:53,900
Like we have no. 
No i.d. like, Isaiah Spillers 

1182
00:57:53,900 --> 00:57:55,400
going there. 
As this building might be 

1183
00:57:55,700 --> 00:57:58,700
completely out of the Chargers 
plants in sick rights right? 

1184
00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:01,700
They might draft a new day to 
day. 

1185
00:58:01,700 --> 00:58:03,300
Three. 
Running back or sign somebody in

1186
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:05,300
free agency. 
They didn't really use him a 

1187
00:58:05,308 --> 00:58:07,500
ton. 
A lot of those guys back there, 

1188
00:58:07,500 --> 00:58:10,500
some of them will have value. 
But the way we approach it last 

1189
00:58:10,500 --> 00:58:12,900
year, Pete was we went after 
some of the like pass-catching 

1190
00:58:12,900 --> 00:58:16,400
backs thinking they would have 
stable roles but I mean the 

1191
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:18,600
mechanics of the world got heard
and some of the other ones just 

1192
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,900
weren't very good. 
Like he Minds wasn't very good. 

1193
00:58:21,100 --> 00:58:24,500
It's tough game. 
Flopped in the regular season 

1194
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:25,900
game. 
Yep. 

1195
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:29,200
I mean, it's tough without the 
past catchers to lean back on. 

1196
00:58:29,500 --> 00:58:31,900
A lot of these dudes, we don't 
know what their roles are going 

1197
00:58:31,900 --> 00:58:35,200
to be. 
You can make those bets but you 

1198
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,900
probably want to be taking some 
running back. 

1199
00:58:38,900 --> 00:58:43,200
Swings reasonably High to lock 
in like something, but I 

1200
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:45,900
probably just be thin at running
back over all and take a, you 

1201
00:58:45,900 --> 00:58:48,200
know, a decent number of 
receivers. 

1202
00:58:48,200 --> 00:58:50,500
But this is also why I probably 
wouldn't be doing early Cube you

1203
00:58:50,500 --> 00:58:53,700
like this because I feel like 
Like yeah it's a bad on Derek 

1204
00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:56,600
Carr to take him in the 12th 
round but that's a bet that I 

1205
00:58:56,607 --> 00:58:58,800
feel a lot more comfortable with
the dirt cars going to start 

1206
00:58:58,800 --> 00:59:01,300
somewhere and be a solid 
quarterback for a basketball 

1207
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:04,700
build as opposed to whatever. 
You know, running back that I 

1208
00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:07,100
have to make in that range, 
Alexander Madison or something. 

1209
00:59:07,100 --> 00:59:09,900
Who like legitimately might not 
even be the Vikings back up 

1210
00:59:09,900 --> 00:59:12,200
anymore next year. 
Like we don't know like Tai Chi 

1211
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:16,600
and I could be them out or they 
can go somewhere else or, you 

1212
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,700
know, maybe he winds up beating 
out Dalvin cook. 

1213
00:59:18,700 --> 00:59:21,000
I don't know. 
But yeah, it's like, is it? 

1214
00:59:22,200 --> 00:59:23,700
Good. 
Oh sorry I was gonna say what do

1215
00:59:23,700 --> 00:59:25,100
you think? 
I didn't even blink at this 

1216
00:59:25,100 --> 00:59:28,300
Garrett Wilson at 23? 
I feel like he would be like if 

1217
00:59:28,300 --> 00:59:30,400
you just told me where they were
going to have like the same QB 

1218
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,700
set up his last year some you 
know triumvirate of those shitty

1219
00:59:33,700 --> 00:59:35,600
guys. 
I'd say he's like a mid to late 

1220
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,300
third round pick and then if you
bake in a quarterback upgrade 

1221
00:59:38,300 --> 00:59:43,200
presumably Rogers like late 
second I mean I don't know I 

1222
00:59:43,200 --> 00:59:46,300
took ggressive there its 
aggressive with like a lava in 

1223
00:59:46,300 --> 00:59:49,600
the mid 4th and some of the 
other prices you're looking at. 

1224
00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:54,800
But Like, the way I put it as 
IQ. 

1225
00:59:56,700 --> 00:59:58,900
It's a little early to be saying
this but there's basically no 

1226
00:59:58,900 --> 01:00:00,800
price where I'm not going to get
some exposure to him. 

1227
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:04,000
I still think the lake second is
fine to begin exposure to them. 

1228
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,900
Especially right now with the QV
uncertainty, if the QB situation

1229
01:00:06,900 --> 01:00:09,000
is confirmed bad, that's one 
thing. 

1230
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,100
But like if they get Aaron 
Rodgers dude Darren Wilson's. 

1231
01:00:11,100 --> 01:00:13,900
Going to get soft fibers here? 
Yeah, yeah. 

1232
01:00:13,900 --> 01:00:15,900
No, that's where that's where 
I'm at there, too. 

1233
01:00:15,900 --> 01:00:18,100
And I guess, I guess maybe 
because you have that 

1234
01:00:18,100 --> 01:00:20,600
uncertainty, you don't want to 
pay Rogers prices until that's 

1235
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:22,000
confirmed. 
I get that. 

1236
01:00:22,700 --> 01:00:26,900
But I also don't blame anyone 
for clicking Clicking there. 

1237
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,400
I agree with FF disguise here, 
Singletary, and the 14th, you 

1238
01:00:30,408 --> 01:00:33,000
know, even a more exaggerated 
version of the David Montgomery 

1239
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:34,700
pick. 
I mean, there's just zero 

1240
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:37,400
downside risk at that price, 
another free agent. 

1241
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:40,200
I'm looking at of Mi Sanders in 
the eighth, like everyone was 

1242
01:00:40,200 --> 01:00:42,500
talking about how we should have
been take him out sinners in the

1243
01:00:42,500 --> 01:00:45,900
eighth, because of how good of a
season he had and he's going in 

1244
01:00:45,900 --> 01:00:47,800
the eighth again even though he 
had that good of a season that 

1245
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,300
doesn't make a lot of sense. 
Tyler. 

1246
01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:51,700
I'll during the seventh, I kind 
of like him if he had a really 

1247
01:00:51,700 --> 01:00:55,700
good end of last season there. 
Cam Akers 712. 

1248
01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,800
Yeah. 
Julie looked he knew that 

1249
01:00:57,900 --> 01:01:02,500
Achilles our 18-month injuries. 
He looked like he got over his 

1250
01:01:02,500 --> 01:01:03,900
Achilles by the end of the 
season. 

1251
01:01:03,900 --> 01:01:06,600
He looked like pre-injury cam 
Akers. 

1252
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:10,100
I think there was too high of 
expectations coming into the 

1253
01:01:10,100 --> 01:01:16,100
season, but once we started to 
see those flashes that show that

1254
01:01:16,100 --> 01:01:20,800
he can actually potentially play
at the pre-injury level again, 

1255
01:01:21,700 --> 01:01:23,800
I'm taking him at 7:12. 
I'm okay with that. 

1256
01:01:23,800 --> 01:01:29,600
He was like a stud pre-injury. 
Yeah, let's see here. 

1257
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,800
Kyle says charger stack looks 
like Great Value, Mike Williams 

1258
01:01:34,100 --> 01:01:36,700
going in the sixth at. 
That one's pretty interesting. 

1259
01:01:36,700 --> 01:01:39,100
I would say. 
Yeah, you know, and 512, I mean,

1260
01:01:40,700 --> 01:01:42,600
I haven't been on key now and 
much last couple years were 

1261
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:46,000
finally getting that age 
discount that I wrote last year.

1262
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:48,400
He was in the third that we 
needed a discount, he should 

1263
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:53,300
have been falling to the fifth 
last season that was there and 

1264
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:55,600
he was still good when on the 
field this year. 

1265
01:01:55,600 --> 01:01:57,900
So I'm very comfortable his 
price at 5:12 to. 

1266
01:01:57,900 --> 01:01:59,500
I like the charger stack. 
I like that. 

1267
01:02:00,300 --> 01:02:02,000
Yeah. 
What was the? 

1268
01:02:02,300 --> 01:02:04,400
Oh yeah we should talk about 
this one because I've been 

1269
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,200
seeing. 
Where's the comment about 

1270
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:08,700
Hawkinson guys? 
I'm so fucking tired. 

1271
01:02:08,700 --> 01:02:13,200
I'm losing my mind these days. 
Is I can't find the post, but 

1272
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:17,000
someone said, what do you think 
about Hawkinson back end of the 

1273
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:18,900
second round? 
Because that is where he's been 

1274
01:02:18,900 --> 01:02:21,600
going in, these drafts to Rich. 
Are you a buyer there? 

1275
01:02:23,100 --> 01:02:28,300
Yeah, that's that's one I can 
understand and tighten premium 

1276
01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:37,900
but it's it feels a little bit 
like when we all got in on, So 

1277
01:02:38,100 --> 01:02:39,700
who's the Ram side? 
And again, think of the same 

1278
01:02:39,700 --> 01:02:42,100
higbee. 
Oh, he's big and strong stretch.

1279
01:02:42,100 --> 01:02:44,700
Then to that year. 
The difference was higbee, not a

1280
01:02:44,707 --> 01:02:47,400
very good Prospect, did not have
any production and then had one 

1281
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:50,000
really good. 
Five-game stretch, Hawkinson 

1282
01:02:50,500 --> 01:02:53,500
really strong Prospect really 
strong draft, Capital had, 

1283
01:02:53,500 --> 01:02:57,900
everything changed teams. 
And immediately played to a 

1284
01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:00,300
level that we had never seen a 
really play with the Lions. 

1285
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:03,800
And it makes you feel like there
was something with Detroit 

1286
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,300
system that was potentially 
limiting him, which we've seen 

1287
01:03:06,300 --> 01:03:08,300
with tight ends. 
He's being a little bit more 

1288
01:03:08,300 --> 01:03:10,800
system-related. 
The name that I was comes to my 

1289
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,100
mind when I think about this, is
Greg Olsen who started his 

1290
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:15,900
career with the Bears and wasn't
a very good tight end with the 

1291
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:17,800
Bears. 
Finally got loose over to 

1292
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:21,000
Carolina and suddenly goes on to
be like one of the best, 

1293
01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,900
pass-catching tight ends in the 
league throughout his career in 

1294
01:03:24,900 --> 01:03:28,800
Carolina, like that. 
That's the career Hawkinson can 

1295
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,600
definitely have is the sort of 
the Greg Olsen career. 

1296
01:03:31,600 --> 01:03:34,700
And I mean, he could be better, 
obviously, like he was a top 

1297
01:03:34,700 --> 01:03:36,500
ten. 
He was 10th overall pick, right?

1298
01:03:36,500 --> 01:03:38,600
I mean, he was a Was one of the 
highest drafted tight ends in 

1299
01:03:38,600 --> 01:03:41,200
the last decade. 
He was good enough with 

1300
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,400
Minnesota for that stretch that 
I get this price. 

1301
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:49,200
It's also, I mean, It's betting 
a lot on a small sample it's a 

1302
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,000
high-risk high-reward been for 
sure. 

1303
01:03:51,700 --> 01:03:55,100
And I think the other thing too,
about these drafts and granted, 

1304
01:03:55,100 --> 01:04:01,100
this is just one draft in a 
bucket but You know, it you find

1305
01:04:01,100 --> 01:04:03,000
yourself in these spots and ffp,
see drafts where it's a 

1306
01:04:03,008 --> 01:04:05,800
structural decision or it's 
almost not even TJ Hawkinson, 

1307
01:04:05,800 --> 01:04:08,100
but it's like TJ Hawkins 
archetype, and if you want to 

1308
01:04:08,107 --> 01:04:10,500
build through an elite tight 
end, and then you're asking 

1309
01:04:10,500 --> 01:04:14,000
yourself, like, hey, the two 
three turn is way too early for 

1310
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,800
me to take George Kettle or Kyle
pits in Dallas, Carter. 

1311
01:04:16,900 --> 01:04:17,900
And then you're saying to 
yourself. 

1312
01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:20,700
I don't want to have Dalton 
Schultz or Waller Ingram. 

1313
01:04:20,900 --> 01:04:24,000
And so you just get pushed to 
Hawkinson because we've had that

1314
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:26,800
Dynamic happen to us in Main 
Event drafts were structurally. 

1315
01:04:26,800 --> 01:04:29,900
We make the pick even if we 
think it's a bit rich, Each ATP 

1316
01:04:29,900 --> 01:04:33,000
works, right then that's it. 
That's probably the way to 

1317
01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:35,600
describe it because I do think 
it is probably a little bit 

1318
01:04:35,600 --> 01:04:37,000
Rich. 
I'd probably like him in the mid

1319
01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:41,300
third late, third, three, four 
turn. 

1320
01:04:41,300 --> 01:04:43,600
If I could get it there but that
might not be the price we get on

1321
01:04:43,600 --> 01:04:47,400
Hawkinson this year and premium.
Yeah I don't think it is. 

1322
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:50,400
It is really wild. 
Like I guess like we knew the 

1323
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,000
quarterbacks were going to go 
early but I'm still having 

1324
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:55,100
sticker shock seeing it. 
Like I'm thinking about all the 

1325
01:04:55,100 --> 01:04:58,900
drafts we did last year and just
imagine seeing Josh Allen 

1326
01:04:58,900 --> 01:05:02,400
Patrick Jalen hurts jobber all 
go off in the third round. 

1327
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,200
I mean that was such a juicy 
Range, four wide receivers last 

1328
01:05:05,200 --> 01:05:07,100
year, and some of those guys are
just going to get pushed down 

1329
01:05:07,100 --> 01:05:09,900
now. 
Yeah, I mean three receivers in 

1330
01:05:09,900 --> 01:05:12,100
the third round in this draft, 
three receivers in the fourth 

1331
01:05:12,100 --> 01:05:13,900
friend. 
You got six receivers in those 

1332
01:05:13,900 --> 01:05:16,100
two rounds. 
There's only four in the second.

1333
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,200
There's seven in the first. 
I mean, that sets a really heavy

1334
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,600
like tone and lamb is 2001. 
But from that point on you just 

1335
01:05:23,600 --> 01:05:27,100
kind of take your eyes from 20 
to down the second round on the 

1336
01:05:27,100 --> 01:05:29,500
third down the fourth. 
You're not seeing as many 

1337
01:05:29,500 --> 01:05:32,700
receivers as you normally see. 
And that's what's pushing DJ 

1338
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:36,100
more 2501 and I was just talk 
about Keenan Allen at 5:12. 

1339
01:05:36,100 --> 01:05:38,200
Like, they're not even that much
lower than they were going last.

1340
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,000
He's wide receiver 18, DJ more 
Keenan's, wide receiver 23, a 

1341
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,400
lot of times, those are be, you 
know, early fourth. 

1342
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,000
What late, third picks and some 
of these drafts that are really 

1343
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,200
receiver heavy last year. 
Yeah, maybe not wide, receiver 

1344
01:05:50,200 --> 01:05:52,600
23, but wide, receiver 18. 
I think we've probably seen in 

1345
01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:57,200
the third round and in these 
early drafts at least we're 

1346
01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,500
seeing receiver be to 
deprioritize a little bit, 

1347
01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,600
which, I mean, opens up the path
to go. 

1348
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:08,200
Look at the two hole, Jefferson 
Garrett, Wilson T, Higgins. 

1349
01:06:09,100 --> 01:06:11,500
I mean, you didn't even have to 
go Pollard and Chimera in those 

1350
01:06:11,500 --> 01:06:15,200
spots, but okay, Pollard, 
DeAndre Hopkins. 

1351
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,400
I mean Pollard injury. 
Probably hadn't happened yet. 

1352
01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:20,100
I'm assuming when this was done,
but DeAndre Hopkins Marquis 

1353
01:06:20,100 --> 01:06:22,300
Brown, jsn. 
Look at those receivers that 

1354
01:06:22,300 --> 01:06:26,500
that built in, Probably with the
4 and the 6 I would have 

1355
01:06:26,500 --> 01:06:30,800
preferred like to get I don't 
know, Lamar Jackson goes for 12.

1356
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,600
I would have probably preferred 
him to Pollard there at the six,

1357
01:06:33,600 --> 01:06:36,300
maybe another receiver. 
Even I you could went, I mean, 

1358
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:39,600
you can have really strong 
receivers when the drafts not 

1359
01:06:39,600 --> 01:06:42,700
going receiver heavy, right? 
When it's not a pistol draft. 

1360
01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:44,500
Yeah. 
This is not a piss. 

1361
01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:45,600
Poor. 
Driving mean, the one hole 

1362
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,000
Jameson and the 12th hole or the
only teams that went 0 R, be 

1363
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:52,600
waiting until the seventh round 
to draft their first running 

1364
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:53,900
back. 
But man, this just looks like 

1365
01:06:54,000 --> 01:06:58,000
Like old-school FF PC business 
as usual, no seismic a teepee 

1366
01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:01,700
shifts. 
Right, and that's, that's nice 

1367
01:07:01,700 --> 01:07:03,900
to see. 
But interestingly you point out 

1368
01:07:03,900 --> 01:07:05,300
with the cube? 
He's being really high and 

1369
01:07:05,300 --> 01:07:06,700
there's a lot of tight ends 
pretty high. 

1370
01:07:06,900 --> 01:07:09,700
We're also getting good prices 
on some running backs. 

1371
01:07:09,700 --> 01:07:12,200
So, it's not even. 
I mean, I see a question about 

1372
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,600
Aaron Jones in the chat, like he
goes, in the middle of the fifth

1373
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:17,000
route, he's our be 20 in the 
middle of fifth round. 

1374
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:20,000
That's not like a super are be 
heavy draft either. 

1375
01:07:20,600 --> 01:07:23,800
It's a It'll be interesting to 
see. 

1376
01:07:23,800 --> 01:07:25,600
I think probably the 
quarterbacks will settle in a 

1377
01:07:25,607 --> 01:07:28,700
little bit lower over time. 
These tight ends will probably 

1378
01:07:28,700 --> 01:07:32,200
settle in a little bit lower and
so that will push up some 

1379
01:07:32,200 --> 01:07:34,000
receivers but it will push up 
some running backs to. 

1380
01:07:34,100 --> 01:07:35,700
It's not going to be exactly 
like this. 

1381
01:07:35,700 --> 01:07:39,400
But right now, looking at this, 
like there's a lot of ways to 

1382
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:44,200
build that are if you're not 
overreacting too much to 2022, 

1383
01:07:44,200 --> 01:07:46,600
when you're willing to kind of 
take a similar approach to what 

1384
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:50,400
you did going into 2022, even if
it didn't pan out particularly 

1385
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,400
well. 
Last year you can build some 

1386
01:07:52,600 --> 01:07:54,700
Really fun teams when you look 
at a board like this. 

1387
01:07:55,500 --> 01:07:57,400
Yeah. 
I mean it's the I know it's the 

1388
01:07:57,400 --> 01:08:02,100
same thing every year to wear 
these guys, a guy like Aaron 

1389
01:08:02,100 --> 01:08:04,600
Jones. 
Like you said, there's ambiguity

1390
01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:07,900
about just projecting him for 
touches and when there's that, 

1391
01:08:07,900 --> 01:08:10,000
ambiguity, you're getting this 
insane discount, nothing about 

1392
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,300
the player has changed. 
And Aaron Jones is a guy who, 

1393
01:08:13,500 --> 01:08:15,400
you know, sure there's some 
situations that could be 

1394
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:18,700
disastrous, but for the most 
part, like, I don't know, Aaron 

1395
01:08:18,700 --> 01:08:21,399
Jones is going to be Aaron Jones
in most offenses, right? 

1396
01:08:21,700 --> 01:08:23,700
It but it's just really We 
interesting you take advantage 

1397
01:08:23,700 --> 01:08:26,000
that discount. 
Now I can't even come up with a 

1398
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,899
landing spot you know where it 
would necessarily be bad but 

1399
01:08:29,899 --> 01:08:31,800
he's going to V around her to 
the second. 

1400
01:08:31,899 --> 01:08:34,300
You get clarity on that. 
He's the type of player that 

1401
01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:36,300
he's always been interesting 
even when he's been in a 

1402
01:08:36,300 --> 01:08:39,000
committee because his explosive,
he can catch. 

1403
01:08:40,600 --> 01:08:44,100
Yeah, I mean, game-breaking big 
play ability, and receiving 

1404
01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:48,500
ability is enticing to me in the
fifth round. 

1405
01:08:48,500 --> 01:08:51,899
I mean, even if he's in a 
committee and I almost like I'm 

1406
01:08:51,899 --> 01:08:55,300
okay with Being in a committee. 
It's almost like a DeAndre Swift

1407
01:08:55,300 --> 01:08:58,899
profile which he, what? 
Mid third. 

1408
01:08:58,899 --> 01:09:02,500
I mean he's she to I like that a
little bit like and and Swift 

1409
01:09:02,500 --> 01:09:04,899
obviously did get hurt but I 
think I would make a case that 

1410
01:09:04,899 --> 01:09:09,500
not having to carry 25 times a 
game to get their value is 

1411
01:09:09,500 --> 01:09:11,700
probably better for their 
health, right? 

1412
01:09:11,700 --> 01:09:14,000
Those types of back. 
Yeah, they're a little smaller 

1413
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:17,300
typically but I was those are 
ones Shawn's. 

1414
01:09:17,300 --> 01:09:18,899
Got maybe on. 
That's the profile. 

1415
01:09:18,899 --> 01:09:20,000
That Sean I was love to talk 
about. 

1416
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,100
It was explosive back. 
She goes back to Jamaal Charles 

1417
01:09:22,100 --> 01:09:26,300
but But it's a little bit like a
Jamaal Charles like what Aaron, 

1418
01:09:26,300 --> 01:09:28,300
Jones has done that. 
He's had a somewhat similar 

1419
01:09:28,300 --> 01:09:30,899
career. 
Obviously not as good as Jamaal 

1420
01:09:30,899 --> 01:09:34,399
Charles but that's the type of 
player that he's like, 30 

1421
01:09:34,399 --> 01:09:37,100
though, like he is getting up 
there in age, but that's the 

1422
01:09:37,108 --> 01:09:41,000
type of player that I am into. 
Now, he's just turned 28, 

1423
01:09:41,000 --> 01:09:42,800
actually, it's not quite as old 
as I thought. 

1424
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:47,100
I don't know, I'm into him in 
the fifth round when he's been 

1425
01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:50,600
as productive as, as he's been 
basically his whole career for 

1426
01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,300
sure. 
And now I'm starting to get 

1427
01:09:52,300 --> 01:09:55,300
starting to get the edge here. 
I promise, you, we'll be doing 

1428
01:09:55,500 --> 01:09:58,200
plenty of drafting on these are 
ways. 

1429
01:09:58,200 --> 01:10:01,800
But wanted to set the table. 
Look at a few draft boards 

1430
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:05,600
grach, any other things on your 
mind here before we power this 

1431
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:08,500
down. 
No, I'm just ready to draft will

1432
01:10:08,500 --> 01:10:11,600
do, maybe we should do some next
week before packets back because

1433
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,900
we got to get our million dollar
winners drafted before he's 

1434
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:19,000
around, because, you know, we 
could check out the available 

1435
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,900
prize pools. 
I think we might need to win 

1436
01:10:21,900 --> 01:10:26,300
like, first through four 
hundredths place and times over 

1437
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,000
some of these got tested that 
maybe we can, we might not be 

1438
01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:35,000
getting million, even even then.
But yeah, I appreciate you guys 

1439
01:10:35,000 --> 01:10:36,900
as always, thanks for hanging 
out in the chat if you want. 

1440
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,200
Join us in the ship chasing 
Discord. 

1441
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:42,800
We always would love having you 
in their can talk some more Omni

1442
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,100
fantasy. 
For those of you who had 

1443
01:10:44,100 --> 01:10:45,900
question also in the deposit 
Kingdom Discord. 

1444
01:10:45,900 --> 01:10:49,300
There is an omni fantasy Channel
down there as well. 

1445
01:10:49,300 --> 01:10:51,900
If you guys want to check out 
some of your team's or ask 

1446
01:10:51,900 --> 01:10:56,800
Gretsch questions, Gretch, still
pumping out stealing bananas 

1447
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,400
podcasts. 
Any any posts that people can 

1448
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:00,900
look forward to in the next week
or so? 

1449
01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,500
Yeah I just did the one that 
looked at similar to what we did

1450
01:11:04,500 --> 01:11:07,500
tonight but then some ATP and 
wrote some stuff up and And I'm 

1451
01:11:07,500 --> 01:11:10,200
going to do a few more I 
mentioned in that post a few 

1452
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:15,000
more coming, some biggest 
takeaway from 2020, there's a 

1453
01:11:15,000 --> 01:11:18,200
low late, I'd planned to write 
that the week of the the Hamlin 

1454
01:11:18,500 --> 01:11:21,500
injury and not knowing that that
was going to happen and then 

1455
01:11:21,500 --> 01:11:24,600
also that Pat was going to be 
you know in this position he was

1456
01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,000
in it was a busy week that week 
ultimately and then we went into

1457
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,800
the playoff stuff. 
So I've been putting that off 

1458
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,800
but I have like a whole outline 
written for the big takeaways 

1459
01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,700
from 2022. 
So that'll be a fun one when I 

1460
01:11:34,700 --> 01:11:36,700
get that put together. 
Awesome. 

1461
01:11:36,700 --> 01:11:38,600
Yeah. 
Yeah, I'll also do since you're 

1462
01:11:38,600 --> 01:11:39,900
bad at doing your own plugs been
on. 

1463
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:42,400
Put in a plug for us. 
Stealing lines, Dalton was 

1464
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:47,300
giving out recently, some 
Futures Super Bowl that's that I

1465
01:11:47,308 --> 01:11:50,300
thought were super fun. 
He gave up to I won't give them 

1466
01:11:50,300 --> 01:11:52,900
out here but I was like okay. 
I want to go bet those. 

1467
01:11:53,100 --> 01:11:55,400
I want to go bet though. 
So yeah some fun stuff over 

1468
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,400
there at stealing vets as well. 
Yeah. 

1469
01:11:57,500 --> 01:11:59,300
Yes the old one isn't did really
well this year. 

1470
01:11:59,300 --> 01:12:01,400
He did awesome. 
I finished in the blocked in the

1471
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:06,500
sides and totals and salting the
black good year for for that 

1472
01:12:06,500 --> 01:12:08,000
because that's Obviously, 
tougher Market. 

1473
01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:10,900
He did incredibly well in the 
props, he's going to be 

1474
01:12:10,900 --> 01:12:12,700
grinding, the draft stuff coming
up. 

1475
01:12:12,900 --> 01:12:15,900
Lot of offseason markets, 
combine stuff. 

1476
01:12:15,900 --> 01:12:18,200
I know he had some big hits on 
the combine last year. 

1477
01:12:18,800 --> 01:12:21,100
He's good, man. 
He grinds the the props hits 

1478
01:12:21,100 --> 01:12:22,600
Along on a lot of long shots 
stuff. 

1479
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,400
If you are looking for some of 
the offseason, that's you'll 

1480
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:29,500
have a lot of interesting 
markets that will be playing. 

1481
01:12:29,500 --> 01:12:30,900
So yeah, come join us over 
there. 

1482
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,300
Yeah, and yeah, good luck to 
everyone to, I mean, we'll have 

1483
01:12:34,300 --> 01:12:36,900
a show most likely next week, 
but good luck to everyone. 

1484
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:41,200
One in the, the underdog playoff
contest, I got some teams 

1485
01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,300
through to the finals grach. 
But no full lineups, 

1486
01:12:44,300 --> 01:12:47,100
unfortunately, just like two and
three guys here and there. 

1487
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:50,100
So ended up being a profitable 
thing for me, but not going to 

1488
01:12:50,108 --> 01:12:54,300
have a fun play off sweat. 
Unlike some of the people Nomar 

1489
01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:59,700
is in the Discord extremely live
to win the big Mitten, the like 

1490
01:12:59,700 --> 01:13:01,700
the finals. 
It's like nine dead teams, and 

1491
01:13:01,700 --> 01:13:05,500
then him going toe-to-toe with 
another team to take it down. 

1492
01:13:05,500 --> 01:13:10,200
So that graduation It's to all 
of our Underdog finalists, take 

1493
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:12,700
that down. 
Like I said, we should be back 

1494
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:13,700
next week. 
We'll let you know. 

1495
01:13:13,700 --> 01:13:16,100
You can follow us on Twitter at 
ship chasing will keep. 

1496
01:13:16,100 --> 01:13:21,200
You posted have a great week, 
enjoy your last weekend or your 

1497
01:13:21,200 --> 01:13:22,800
second. 
I don't know how to phrase this 

1498
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,500
a weekend without football 
before lots of weekends without 

1499
01:13:25,500 --> 01:13:27,600
football. 
I believe is how that should be 

1500
01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,700
said. 
So for been Gretsch, I'm Pete 

1501
01:13:29,700 --> 01:13:30,600
will see you guys next time.