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We are through nine weeks of the
NFL season and in the post game 

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interview that he gave Brock 
Bowers was quoted as saying 

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behold I am become death 
destroyer of faders. 

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This is stat chasing Pat Fryer 
Helmo. 

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This is what this is what I'm 
Pat Anita handjob fix your side 

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for Jamar. 
Alpha play, Chase, you can't 

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handle the heat. 
It looks like we're finally at 

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this point here, right? 
I think it's a good thing, 

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Draco. 
The the Brock Bauer's absolute 

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nuclear obliteration of all the 
faders coming in Week 9 really 

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taught us, you know, delayed 
gratification. 

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It it was an important time of 
self reflection and perhaps it 

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will allow us to be more 
merciful to the faders here 

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going forward because we've 
grown in these weeks. 

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Yeah, it was like, no, not 
November, but like we did it in 

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October, Novara's October, 
finally the eruption spot once 

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we got to November. 
Yeah, I watching that game, I, 

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you know, he he's going off like
he's having a good day. 

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Loveland had already had the the
monster day before. 

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And I just was thinking like, 
after the first touchdown, I'm 

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like, yeah, but how fun would it
be if Bowers got a second 

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touchdown to match Loveland, you
know, and it takes a while and 

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then he gets the second one. 
I'm like, but wouldn't it be 

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cool if the game went to 
overtime and he could, he could 

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just throw another one on the 
fire? 

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Oh man, it's such, such a fun 
game. 

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Really, Really. 
I mean, the the Brock Bauer's 

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slappies were rejoicing. 
Am I still out, by the way? 

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No, I I could hear you. 
OK. 

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I I I went out. 
I was, I was making a joke. 

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I said like it was kind of like,
no, not November. 

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It was like no Bowers October 
when we finally got the 

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eruption. 
And yeah, it's like we finally 

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got the the eruption once that 
once he came back. 

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Yeah, it very, very satisfying. 
There will be plenty of Bowers 

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talk later when we get to the 
tight end charts. 

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I think we should go ahead and 
dive into quarterback here. 

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Yeah, not, not a ton to cover at
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there are some important either 
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things that we had discussed in 
previous weeks that I think are 

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important to revisit. 
The first note that I had on the

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quarterback chart was Bonex just
continues to trend down in his 

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adjusted yards per attempt. 
Who could have, I mean, gosh, 

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no, no one even said anything 
like this was possible. 

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We didn't. 
God, I mean, if only. 

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If only someone, some wise sage,
had pointed out that he was 

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probably going to continue to 
trend down. 

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He's playing really badly. 
The the Cowboys game, I mean, 

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like we got to give him his 
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'cause he he put up a bunch of 
points there. 

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But even in the Cowboys game, 
like he was good. 

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But you know, he did what all 
the other court, you know, we 

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just saw Jacoby Verset cook the 
Cowboys too. 

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I guess it's not some some 
lifetime achievement award that 

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you get for cooking the Cowboys,
but at least he could do that. 

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The one yes, like I guess so 
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per tempt. 
That's in the in the in the kind

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of mediocre to bad quarterback 
territory. 

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And you you look at all of these
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next Gen. stocks, they're like 
completion are respected. 

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And and then any of the other 
metrics like he is, he's right 

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alongside Russell Wilson, 
Michael Pannick's Cam Ward and 

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right around like -3 completion 
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What's weird is like he's good 
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Like even though the old line is
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is, is, is one of the best. 
I think it might actually be he 

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might have the best pressure to 
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His rushing is good. 
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he's good at some of these 
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And then he makes the, he does 
make the occasional explosive 

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throw, but it, it does seem like
his he, he, he's not efficient 

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because he's not completing 
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obviously important for, for. 
He he is. 

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He is a little bit better for 
fantasy. 

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And I, I, I do wonder how much 
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They don't have the best 
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is their best receiver. 
Like he he's like, OK, like he's

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certainly not a elite wide 
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One Troy Franklin has been the 
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And like, I, I'm a Troy Franklin
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I think you are too. 
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know. 
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that is just the offense itself.
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is a bit lackluster. 
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you transplanted, you know, top 
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offense, it probably helps the 
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But I mean, Mac Jones is sitting
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backs per game and he's over a 
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higher than him throwing to 
Kendrick Bourne, you know, and 

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he he has nothing to throw to 
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And it's it's still working out 
just. 

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Fine, Right, right, right. 
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So he has an elite offensive 
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Like you can't make that many 
excuses for him. 

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Yeah, the, the like silver 
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is the things that he's good at,
the scrambling, the not taking 

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sacks. 
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for fantasy. 
Like that's why he's been better

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for fantasy than he has been for
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And the Broncos also are just a 
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you can you can just have a 
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And it doesn't really like you 
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nuclear loser back there for it 
to start mattering for how good 

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the Broncos are on defense and 
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is. 
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the threshold where it is good 
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Broncos, especially on his 
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And he's got time to develop. 
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And there's enough that, you 
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maybe he can wallpaper over the 
bad stuff or like he grows or 

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they they figure out how to just
like, let's not put you in 

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situations where you have to do 
stuff that you're just not 

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capable of. 
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functional quarterback on a 
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But I do think that, you know, 
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Bonex of this is not a good NFL 
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Yeah, way overdrafted. 
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Way overdrafted. 
He's he's actually, he's put up 

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fantasy points to where it's 
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ball is not killing you. 
It's not great, but it's not 

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killing you. 
But I would expect it to hurt 

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you more as the season 
progresses is the thing, because

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we're seeing the the trend is 
continuing down and he's already

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played some of the best matchups
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He already got the Bengals, 
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Like it's unfortunately he does 
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played the Giants already. 
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I think we see the trend 
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Steelers. 
The good news is he's he's 

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probably close to bottomed out 
like you can't, you actually 

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the caliber quarterback he is. 
He's not like Dylan Gabriel bad.

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So he's he probably can't fall 
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thing, but it it does probably 
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basketball teams down a guy that
I I think I want to I have to 

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give you your flowers on this 
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I think he's aging pretty well 
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he's been. 
Is Caleb where you you've been 

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very much on this all season 
where the ceiling is undeniable 

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for him. 
Like you put this guy in a good 

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spot and he's not always going 
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But boy, when he does right, 
it's a fun. 

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Yeah, we're, we're, we're in 
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pretty limited reality player. 
Yeah, but his like his, his, his

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play style lands the fantasy 
points and in those cushy 

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matchups, he takes advantage of 
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And and obviously he got the 
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Hendricken Hendrickson last week
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the Bears. 
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And obviously he did capitalize 
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like, I don't can't imagine like
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quarterback then the Bengals 
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and then then the Bengals also 
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So you have to keep playing 
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But yeah, he he did. 
Sure, sure. 

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Take advantage of it. 
You're right. 

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Yeah, I I mean like probably 
pretty frustrating quarterback 

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for season long. 
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have Drake May and Caleb 
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We didn't start Caleb Williams 
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In hindsight that looks 
terrible, but I mean the the 

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only. 
Time we would have won our match

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up if we just played Caleb. 
We would have, we would have the

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the only time we've ever started
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Cowboys game earlier this 
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But it's just been he's Caleb 
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and it, it is just hard to 
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Even even if the good spot 
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thing that he'll he'll produce 
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Bombed the Saints game. 
That was the right one where he 

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had the great match up that he 
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So when you have a, a 
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like even in the bad games, you 
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you know, 20 point floor in a, 
in a format where you're having 

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to choose who to start, then it,
it is kind of hard to start him.

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But I, I think, I don't know, I,
I wonder if his price falls next

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year for bestball, if people are
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he'd be the kind of quarterback 
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end of the window, he's like in 
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That's a super appealing. 
I, I'm like, I'll be full 100% 

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on board. 
Caleb stand if you give him to 

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me in like the 12th round, he 
probably probably still goes 

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relatively high though. 
Just it's, it's gonna depend on 

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like how the season finishes. 
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missed the playoffs and then so 
it's just going to depend on how

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they look, you know, in the 
final weeks of the season and if

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he does have some really big 
games or not. 

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Because I think the recency bias
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initial pricing of the 
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And then people get pretty 
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They they do not budget too much
there. 

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So another guy, this is a a 
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length. 
I think a couple episodes ago we

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talked about Daniel Jones and 
how he was kind of sun running 

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sack rate and boy, the 
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here. 
Yeah, really, really hurt him in

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this game. 
I mean, my my sense is it's more

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I I'm I think I'm more likely to
put this as blip on the radar 

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category rather than like wheels
coming off category for them. 

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They've just been so good this 
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But it it is, you know, it is a 
good reminder that when a guy is

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running as hot as that at, you 
know, in a stat where we have 

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and. 
You know, I've got bad news. 

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So he get he does get the 
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they're at the chiefs, They play
the Texans defense, they play 

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the Jaguars defense, they play 
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Like that's a pretty rough. 
Stretch. 

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That's a pretty rough stretch, 
and obviously the Chiefs and 

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Seahawks are playing pretty 
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so it's not like those don't 
scream to me game scripts where 

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they'll just be up to hand the 
ball off and I can get her done.

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Like they're going to have to 
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think. 
Yeah, Texans 1 is I mean woof, 

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like the Texans match up for for
the Colts is probably just 

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really not fun for for Daniel 
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I mean, just end up with a. 
And and Jags have a good defense

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too. 
Yeah, and they, man, I was 

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surprised how much they were 
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'cause they're sub 50% to make 
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Like that's a lot of buy in to 
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of the Liam Cohen era. 
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Myers one didn't make a ton of 
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term thing that's really like we
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us, you know, until our guys are
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like, I don't really think he's 
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to go out and pay the 1520 
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What the Jags benefit from him 
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and Travis Hunter there. 
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gotten on a tangent on Daniel 
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a note on. 
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that I watched of Drake May 
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legitimately looked. 
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that I've seen of the like worst
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couple bad plays in 1/2 or in a 
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right back or does something 
incredible where it's like, Oh 

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yeah, it doesn't matter that he 
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He's just so good that he makes 
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The second-half of this Patriots
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If you're a Drake may hater, go 
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You'll you'll have a lot of 

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ammo. 
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to me like he I think that the 
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to him. 
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fumble at the end of the first 
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there's only 30 seconds left in 
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realizing, OK, I, I need to get 
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up getting the ball down on like
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that. 
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kind of sputtered in the 
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So I think this was a good spot 
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Like we kind of get the 
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where against the Dolphins, they
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It's like, God, how does the 
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And I, I look just to verify 
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blitz rate and they're 6th in 
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Dolphins, where it's like, who 
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yeah, good luck pressuring us 
quick. 

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We're gonna, the ball's gonna be
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possibly pressure us. 
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And Drake may He should not. 
Glitz for dolphins. 

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Yeah, don't, don't bother. 
Like just just make Tua sit back

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there and beat you like it's. 
Gonna be real quick. 

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I ain't worried. 
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But against Drake May, that was,
that was the recipe, man, that 

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really disrupted what he was 
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I don't know, you know, if maybe
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second-half. 
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splits from first half to 
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rate picked up or anything, or 
if it was just that the Patriots

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were less effective at dealing 
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But that was the worst I've seen
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So that was that was him looking
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wanted to flag is like, OK, this
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And Pat actually kind of flushed
that out in his walkthrough this

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past week where he said if 
there's a spot that can give him

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trouble like this, Falcons 
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to do the things that would 
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And that was very correct. 
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good mental note to have as far 
as like match up stuff for in 

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the future. 
If you do have a team that gets 

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quick pressure and that blitzes 
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Drake May, at least until he 
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sacks. 
But that's that's definitely 

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still a problem for him. 
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And and what I see here is 
interesting. 

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So he had a 30% pressure to sack
rate in, in week 9. 

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His, his like full season is 
like 28 or 29%. 

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Like it's you've had your finger
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but it's certainly his his 
kryptonite. 

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Like when when he's playing 
against teams with a good pass 

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rush. 
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effectively against the Browns, 
but that's certainly where he he

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falls down. 
And then I see he also had to 

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turn turnover where he plays for
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percentage pretty, pretty, 
pretty per game over all for 

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him. 
Yeah. 

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Definitely fantasy day but but 
per day overall? 

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Yeah, the fantasy day basically 
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more or less. 
And then he just kind of 

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sputtered out. 
But the last quarterback I had a

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note on was JJ McCarthy. 
I so I heard stuff that 

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conflicted with what I thought 
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And so I, I went back and, and 
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I, I've seen a couple people say
like Juju McCarthy was actually 

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pretty good. 
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someone explained to me like I'm
legitimately asking like explain

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to me how he was pretty good. 
I think that, I think where the 

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people are coming from that are 
saying that is that the bar was 

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so low that you were just 
expecting absolute like non 

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functional offense from the 
Vikings where it was like, Oh my

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gosh, they won the game. 
That was great, but it wasn't 

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because of JJ McCarthy. 
Like JJ McCarthy had 35% 

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pressure to sack ratio. 
He takes 5 sacks, has a 56% 

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completion percentage. 
Like they're more or less hiding

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him. 
You know, like he he only has 32

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drop backs. 
It just didn't it, it didn't 

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look great to me either. 
Like he also gets bailed out on 

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a couple bad. 
Throws like this what I what I 

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what I noticed is the first like
2 drives were solid and someone 

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was like well maybe these are 
probably descriptive plays for 

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JJ McCarthy where he looks solid
and then they go to the rest of 

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the game plan and and and he 
falls apart. 

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Yeah, I could definitely see 
that being the case. 

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I hadn't picked up on that. 
But that might be I, I should go

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back and watch it again because 
when I watched it the first time

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through, I was, I was like, 
yeah, this this is more or less 

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what I expected. 
Probably like a little better 

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than I expected because I I 
thought that. 

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There were some really bad 
outcomes in the range there, but

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maybe I was just a a little too 
focused on the later plays and 

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and not the early ones where he 
looked good. 

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But I just there were a couple 
throws to me that were like, 

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dude, this guy's getting so 
bailed out by the fact that he 

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has Justin Jefferson on his 
team. 

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Like Justin Jefferson is making 
crazy catches where it's like, 

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I'm I'm sure that, you know, the
Amazon next Gen. stats had the 

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catch probability of that pass 
at like 20%. 

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And Justin Jefferson's like, 
don't worry dog. 

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I got you. 
I mean, he he does. 

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Seem like even in his kept fleet
clean splits he still only had 

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like. 
So this is no pressure. 

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He still only had five and a 
half yards per attempt. 

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What I'm like confused about is 
PFF gave him one of the like the

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best passing grades on the week 
for clean. 

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And I'm like, how does how does 
that work? 

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Still only a 53% accuracy. 
And I guess he had two drops and

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but that's, that doesn't strike 
me as particularly significant. 

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And yeah, but I, I, I'm with you
relative relative to low bar, 

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like where we were thinking 
like, OK, this guy is just going

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to shit on himself. 
He didn't. 

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He didn't quite do that, but 
still pretty ineffective. 

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Yeah, didn't, didn't need to 
change his pants after the game,

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but you know, like it, it wasn't
that much better than that. 

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He's still he's still down here 
with Tyler Shuck and Bryce Young

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and you know, and like again, 
the drop back volume is they're 

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very clearly, you know, 
O'Connell is clearly hiding him 

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like he is not down to have the 
full JJ McCarthy experience, 

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which is probably smart. 
This guy's barely played any 

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games in the league like and 
he's struggled so far. 

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So like throwing him to the 
wolves and having him do like 

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the Joe Flacco or Dylan Gabriel 
40 attempts a game like that's 

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probably not good for him. 
And so I'm willing to I'm 

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willing to give him a shot and 
say like maybe it gets better. 

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But I I think the most likely 
outcome is that you get sub 

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Carson once level play for the 
rest of the season from him, 

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which is just not a a place you 
want to be living. 

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Right, right, right, right. 
So that, that's our, that's our 

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notes on quarterback. 
Let me switch this to running 

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back, zoom out a little bit. 
And so you're, I, I appreciate 

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you doing the show notes again. 
Your first note was about Chase 

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Brown where he, he's, he's so 
back. 

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And the what? 
When you drafted Chase Brown in 

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the second round, it was because
you knew about the contingent 

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upside from Semi JP Ryan, who 
was clearly going to get 

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injured. 
Yeah, I mean, it's really funny 

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when you're getting bailed out 
on your Chase Brown pick because

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Samaji P Ryan twists his ankle 
on a special teams play that is 

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like, you can't make that stuff 
up. 

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There's there's zero chance that
someone tells you that in the 

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offseason and you're like, 
that's that's not a thing that 

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could happen in the NFL. 
But fun story, I guess. 

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I do think it's pretty good for 
Chase Brown, though. 

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You have the they've cracked 
open the window for Taj Brooks 

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to get an opportunity now. 
I don't think it's going to 

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happen. 
You know, it's the competition 

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hasn't been fierce for our boy 
Taj Brooks this season. 

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So I believe he only ended up 
with one carry in this game with

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P Ryan being out. 
So the, the Bengals have already

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shown us what they want to do 
when they feel like they don't 

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have anyone but Chase Brown, 
like they'll, they'll just feed 

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Chase Brown 1,000,000 touches. 
And so he kind of looks like 

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he's going to get there again. 
In that same way. 

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I think the big question on 
Chase Brown now is how long is P

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Ryan out? 
And what's the probability that 

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Taj Brooks is actually good 
enough to, to cut into the work?

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He he's probably like inherently
a pretty big dog to eat as much 

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work as P Ryan just because if 
he was good enough to do that, 

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they like, he probably would 
have gotten the opportunity 

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before P Ryan. 
So I think you're you're kind of

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wheels up for Chase Brown here, 
at least for a couple weeks. 

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So he had a 95% snap rate in 
week 9. 

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So this magic P Ryan and yeah, 
they, they, they barely got they

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barely got Brooks involved. 
They gave Brooks tree snaps and 

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and only 11 rush attempts for 
Chase Brown, obviously trailing 

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script for them. 
Is 1,000,000 targets. 

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Though 40 tree at routes and 
then a 30% targets per at run 

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there. 
He he ended with 14 targets, 

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right? 
Fourth, yeah, I I was going to 

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say that that that's going to be
a lot of targets. 

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It was. 
Crazy. 

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Yeah, that that's a pretty good 
expected points profile. 

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And yeah, and I guess you, you, 
you, you come back full circle 

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to to Chase Brown just getting 
all the work depending on how 

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long smash JP Ryan is out, but 
that's pretty phenomenal for 

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him. 
Yeah, there's definitely 

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something to be said about when 
thinking through the contingent 

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upside, like the ability of the 
guy to consult, like could the 

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could the team realistically be 
like, yeah, you can have 95% 

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snaps? 
Sure. 

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Like, is that a thing that a 
team would do with this player? 

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I think a good example of of, 
you know, the difference between

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contingent upside being realized
for guys is look at the Giants 

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backfield after scataboo goes 
down. 

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Tons of the weight. 
You know, the number one lean on

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waivers is Tyrone Tracy. 
Turns out singletary's the 55 

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and Tracy's the 45 in that 
backfield. 

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And it's like, yeah, that's just
a clear, clear profile 

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difference between Chase Brown, 
who, you know, massive bell cow 

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in college, and Tyrone Tracy, 
who's like converted wide 

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receiver. 
Not going to not going to carry 

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a huge workload like that. 
Never has. 

444
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:52,760
So just something, something to 
be mindful of when you're 

445
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,000
thinking through contingent 
upside bets and how you're 

446
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,040
pricing that in best. 
Well, I, I think that's an 

447
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:04,320
interesting thing. 
Another guy who had massive 

448
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,760
contingent upside, Kyle 
Manongai, just enormous, 

449
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:16,200
enormous day. 
I mean, he so my he he gets huge

450
00:27:17,000 --> 00:27:19,160
positive rush yards over 
expected in this game. 

451
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,880
I think he ended up with like 
more than 70 rush yards over 

452
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:29,760
expectation in this game. 
My I there I have a problem with

453
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,400
this stat because it's like what
some of these like go back and 

454
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,720
just do like freeze frames on 
the Monongai runs where it's 

455
00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:40,400
like, all right, the blocks are 
all set up. 

456
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,680
Here's the rushing lane for Kyle
Monongai. 

457
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,480
Like what? 
What are you saying is the 

458
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:49,600
expected yards here? 
Because there are some where I'm

459
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,440
like the expected yards are all 
of them. 

460
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,760
The expected yards are the ones 
between the running back and the

461
00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:55,000
end zone. 
From. 

462
00:27:55,080 --> 00:28:00,800
Here, like so how how do you 
even and like I get it that his 

463
00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:05,760
thing is not top in nasty speed.
You know, it's he's he's a big 

464
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,160
bruiser downhill runner and like
that's his thing and he ran 

465
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,720
great this game. 
Like, I'm not taking anything 

466
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:14,120
away from him, but like, dude, 
if you have DeAndre Swift in 

467
00:28:14,120 --> 00:28:18,640
this game, he also runs for 200,
but it comes on like 15 fewer 

468
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,480
carries because he just houses. 
Like there were, I want to say 

469
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:26,000
there were like three runs where
it was like there's a bunch of 

470
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,400
green grass and there is one 
dude who has a chance to tackle 

471
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,600
a running back with any kind of 
speed. 

472
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,560
And and it's just like, all 
right. 

473
00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,600
And you know, Monongi gets 
tackled because he doesn't have 

474
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:42,320
any kind of speed. 
But like, I mean, even DeAndre 

475
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,320
Swift, who are not like, I, I 
don't think either of us think 

476
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,800
DeAndre Swift is like the best 
thing since sliced bread or 

477
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:49,480
anything like that. 
He's been running well this 

478
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,320
year. 
But like you plug Swift in to 

479
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,800
those exact spots and I I think 
probably two of the three go for

480
00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:57,640
breakaway. 
Yeah, Swift hits the homers. 

481
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,200
Yeah. 
But but I do think that what 

482
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,800
you're likely to get out of this
is Manongai has has definitely 

483
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,280
earned himself the David 
Montgomery role in the Ben 

484
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,280
Johnson rushing offense. 
I think you actually talked 

485
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,040
about this earlier this season, 
right? 

486
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Did I? 
Did you not? 

487
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:19,720
Maybe I'm just attributing 
something to you that. 

488
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:25,680
I'll, I'll take it. 
I mean it. 

489
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,280
It makes sense. 
It makes sense Where you, you, 

490
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:34,240
you don't want to be using a 
player like Swift between the 

491
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:36,440
tacos more more often than you 
have to. 

492
00:29:36,440 --> 00:29:40,040
You you're at your best where 
you're hitting outside zone and 

493
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,840
you're getting pitches, sweeps 
screen, stuff like that. 

494
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:49,880
And so it, it, it makes sense 
that if they're impressed by 

495
00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:55,000
what he did on Sunday, that they
would use him and a lot more 

496
00:29:55,000 --> 00:30:00,520
between the tackles and, and, 
and I have to go online for 

497
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,640
sure. 
Yeah, I do think in general it's

498
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:09,160
probably not as bad for Swift as
like the immediate market 

499
00:30:09,160 --> 00:30:13,000
sentiment would probably think 
just because it was already a 

500
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,120
split. 
And like if he if Swift does 

501
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:20,120
cede more work to to Monongai, 
it's probably the lower value 

502
00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,880
stuff, you know, like he's still
gonna keep the passing game 

503
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:27,280
work. 
The the real problem would be if

504
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:31,960
Swift seeds share of goal line 
and Green Zone touches that he 

505
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,440
previously would have got and 
now seeds those to Menongi. 

506
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:39,400
That's like the big pain point. 
But Menongi was already getting 

507
00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,080
a lot of the, you know, short 
yardage stuff and goal line 

508
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,560
stuff. 
So I think it's not quite as bad

509
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:49,200
for swift as as it would seem, 
but it's definitely a big boost 

510
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:51,880
for Menongi. 
Definitely a little bit of a, 

511
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:57,680
you know, a knock for Swift, but
I'm like, I'm not like panic 

512
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,440
selling Swift or anything here, 
you know, for pennies on the 

513
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,840
dollar. 
Yeah, so I'm looking at, I'm 

514
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:12,840
looking at Manon guys inside the
five and the last beat prior to 

515
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,840
this, the last two games. 
So week seven and eight he had 

516
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:21,360
he had an inside the rush carry 
in each of week 7:00 and 8:00. 

517
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,960
Then he had two week 9, and I 
want to compare that to like 

518
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,400
Swift. 
Yeah, it's a good time. 

519
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:35,560
So Swift had tree in week 8, two
in week 7. 

520
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:41,160
So Swift was still Swift was 
still very much the lion's share

521
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,440
of those inside the five carries
before this. 

522
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,360
So there is there is room for 
him to get hurt then if Monongai

523
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,160
takes more of that. 
So that would be how he gets 

524
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:56,320
hurt the most. 
For sure, I, I don't, it's still

525
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,640
an open question to me on, on if
they would do that, because 

526
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:04,560
like, I think it's not a secret 
how much the Bengals defense 

527
00:32:04,560 --> 00:32:14,400
think so the, the, the, the, 
the, the, the bears off like the

528
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,520
offensive coaches, like they, 
they probably know that, that, 

529
00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,840
that a lot of his success was 
based on on them kind of not 

530
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,360
being great. 
And then the other thing is, is 

531
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:30,160
even though Menonga got 2 inside
the five carries, he didn't 

532
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,160
convert any of. 
Them. 

533
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,360
Yeah, no, he did. 
He did get. 

534
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:34,560
Stuff. 
What is his name? 

535
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,560
Britain. 
Britain. 

536
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:39,800
Britain Brown Yeah, Britain 
Britain brown. 

537
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,360
He he didn't get any inside the.
Or is it, is it British? 

538
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,400
Is it British, Brooks? 
Now I know it's Brooks. 

539
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:51,080
Yeah, it's Brooks. 
Yeah, you're right, 'cause I'm 

540
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,760
like, I, I thought, I thought he
actually did score and British 

541
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Brooks, that's the, that's the 
name. 

542
00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,960
The first thing I thought when I
saw that name was like, what's 

543
00:32:59,960 --> 00:33:07,720
wrong with American Brooks? 
So he he also got 2 inside the 

544
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:13,560
five Russia 10 and then did not 
convert any of them. 

545
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,560
All right, I think that's 
everything on the Monongai big 

546
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,120
day. 
Another guy who had a really big

547
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,640
day and just has been stringing 
them together is Rico Dowdle, 

548
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,360
who just he's fully iced out 
Chuba. 

549
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,880
Chuba just did almost nothing. 
I think he was like 14 iced. 

550
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,320
Yeah, it was it was not good for
chuba. 

551
00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:44,680
You probably I think you're 
you're more or less just the 

552
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:49,240
flip inning happened. 
Rico is you know the one now and

553
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,480
and it's not right they. 
Said we try. 

554
00:33:51,480 --> 00:34:00,720
We we try to give. 
They, they, they tried. 

555
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,880
They basically said, hey, I'm 
coming after Tuba's injury 

556
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,800
because we gave him the 
contract. 

557
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,600
But what he's done for us, we 
try to give him a chance to like

558
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,400
keep that role, show that he was
still the guy, but it's Rico, 

559
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:19,679
the Rico show going forward. 
So they, they said that and and 

560
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:22,320
that's certainly, yeah, that's 
certainly what they're they're 

561
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,560
doing. 
So let me, I'm just going to 

562
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:31,600
confirm for you. 
So 7076% snap share for Rico, 

563
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:37,080
20% snap share for Tuba. 
So yeah, that's that's that's 

564
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:42,760
like when we were kind of 
classifying running backs into 

565
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:47,679
categories and the way we would 
have classified this backfield 

566
00:34:47,679 --> 00:34:53,520
was very clear Rico starter and 
then tuba is a frisky backup. 

567
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,360
Yeah. 
But we would have said if, if we

568
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,960
hadn't known about the split, 
that's how we would have 

569
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,040
described it. 
So I guess tuba nothing more 

570
00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:10,440
than a desperation start. 
Oh yeah, you're not. 

571
00:35:10,440 --> 00:35:12,280
You're not starting Chuba 
anymore. 

572
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:19,800
Like unless, but like, like and 
you're going to lose if you if 

573
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:25,440
you have to start them probably.
But yeah, he he's not, he's not.

574
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,200
He's basically not in play in in
in any format now. 

575
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,600
Yeah, where Rico is is a 
complete smash. 

576
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:37,640
There's another backfield where 
I think a lot of slappies out 

577
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,240
there were hoping that it would 
kind of go that way where you 

578
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:42,880
get the flip inning, especially 
with the team coming out of the 

579
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,040
bye. 
Unfortunately, the Jaguars did 

580
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:49,800
not go that way. 
Travis ETN had a huge workload 

581
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,520
over 20 carries. 
Looked good too. 

582
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,320
Like did did well with them. 
It is against the Raiders, you 

583
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:59,720
know, so we're we're not not 
going to go crowning king of the

584
00:35:59,720 --> 00:36:04,120
world or anything, but he looked
very solid and they trusted him 

585
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,040
with a lot of opportunity. 
I don't think that you're going 

586
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,440
to get a Tooten takeover anytime
soon. 

587
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,680
Tooten still probably just to 
hold. 

588
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,200
You know, I don't really know 
that you. 

589
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,920
Cut tooten, like the way this 
this backfield is kind of like 

590
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:23,880
A602020. 
Yeah, Etienne has a 60, Tooten 

591
00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:27,680
is is 20, but mostly on rush 
attempts. 

592
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:32,000
And then La Quinta Allen is 20 
based on that, the receiving 

593
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,640
stuff. 
So like if it weren't for La 

594
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,400
Quint, you, you, you would 
almost have something there for 

595
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:40,920
tooten. 
And but that's, that's not what 

596
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:43,480
Tooten does. 
I don't think you, you trust 

597
00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:48,280
tooten to be your, your main 
pass blocker like you do with La

598
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:52,000
Quinta Allen. 
And and it's like like you have 

599
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:57,800
to be I, I don't, I don't see 
how you just overtake Travis ETN

600
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:03,640
unless ETN takes a nosedive like
he, he like Tooting is explosive

601
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,880
enough that like the upside is 
still there. 

602
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:11,960
But like you're saying and they 
the flipping the the increase to

603
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:15,400
Tooting that we were hoping for 
out of the by just not not 

604
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:18,600
materialized. 
Yeah, you're you're an injury 

605
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,640
away for for sure here, which 
the the tootin price really 

606
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:29,000
wasn't that much more expensive 
than than a handcuff. 

607
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,160
You know, like you, you had some
guys that were getting 

608
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,080
meaningful work that were going 
to hit your lineup in best fall 

609
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,480
going where he was going. 
But by the end of the summer he 

610
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:42,640
was he was close enough to 
handcuff prices where you really

611
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,080
were getting basically all 
upside at the at the cost. 

612
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:50,120
But yeah, you're the the way 
this season's running out. 

613
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,480
You do need an injury to ETN for
Tooting to really to smash. 

614
00:37:56,880 --> 00:38:00,440
And you know, like there's lots 
of pick like you. 

615
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,520
You just saw it with Rico where 
I mean, without the Chuba 

616
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,560
injury, like he he really wasn't
taking over. 

617
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,960
Maybe it happens on a drawn out 
timeline. 

618
00:38:09,960 --> 00:38:13,320
I do think the injury probably 
plays into a lot of the Chuba 

619
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,360
decline where he's probably just
a better player without the 

620
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:18,920
injury. 
And so the door is not as open 

621
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:22,120
for Rico there. 
So if you get something similar 

622
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:26,600
like that for ETN and and Tuten,
then yeah, maybe the the door 

623
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:30,120
can crack open. 
But right now it it does look 

624
00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:34,360
like Tuten is just like pure 
handcuff, more or less so. 

625
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:39,880
Yeah, yeah. 
And then your, your next note 

626
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:46,040
was about so Kyron, he he he's 
traditionally been drafted as 

627
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:49,600
like, OK, I know he's not the 
most efficient, but he gets all 

628
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,600
the work. 
He gets all the work where where

629
00:38:52,600 --> 00:38:54,480
that is just not the case 
anymore. 

630
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:57,320
And I think, I believe it's 
actually not been the case for a

631
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,800
couple of games. 
Where Yeah, it's been a few. 

632
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:03,800
Hiring is like a 60% player, 
like Quorum is about the 40%. 

633
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:09,360
So like it's A1A1B situation. 
So yeah, pretty nice win for 

634
00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:16,160
Quorum at the prices he was 
drafted at, but not not like 

635
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:20,320
given, given the even even with 
given the discount on the risk 

636
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:24,240
with that risk materializing. 
I I don't think like a turd or 

637
00:39:24,240 --> 00:39:30,240
or fourth round pick is looking 
great at at this on this percent

638
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:33,040
stop share. 
I think if you like, if you're 

639
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,560
telling me late 4th or like 
early 5th for Kyron, that's a 

640
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,400
smash. 
Even with the best, right? 

641
00:39:38,920 --> 00:39:42,560
But but yeah, taking him in the 
third or three four turn. 

642
00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:44,960
I I agree with you that that's a
little rich. 

643
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:51,800
The watching the game I was I 
was kind of like half paying 

644
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:55,160
attention to Saints Rams, if 
I'll be honest, but I like 

645
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,280
really was tuned in on a drive. 
I can't remember. 

646
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:00,600
Maybe there was like a 
commercial break on another one.

647
00:40:00,600 --> 00:40:03,960
I I had it on a second screen 
and so I'm watching it. 

648
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:08,000
And the drive I'm paying 
attention to is just all quorum 

649
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,320
and he's getting all the 
touches, man. 

650
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:14,760
Like all they every feels like 
every play is a quorum handoff. 

651
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,040
Oh my God, they're feeding this 
guy what's going on. 

652
00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:22,320
And then I realized it's oh, 
every, every 3rd Dr. is the 

653
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,160
quorum Dr. They just do Kairan's
two on, then Korum's one on, 

654
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:30,000
then Kairan's two on, then 
Korum's more, more or less. 

655
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:32,720
That's how it was going and 
that's how it's been. 

656
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:37,320
But man, just like kind of not 
super locked in on the game and 

657
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,360
then like paying attention for 
the quorum drive when they're 

658
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,720
just feeding this guy, it's 
like, Oh my God, did quorum take

659
00:40:44,720 --> 00:40:47,720
over? 
He he has not taken over yet, 

660
00:40:47,720 --> 00:40:49,800
but he's like premium, premium 
handcuff. 

661
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:52,760
I'm super happy to see him on a 
best ball roster. 

662
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:56,920
And he is like, I'm trying to 
think of some guys. 

663
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:01,280
OK, here's here's a good one. 
Actually, let's say that I have,

664
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:09,120
let's say I have Tyrone Tracy. 
Do you want to hold Tyrone Tracy

665
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,640
and say I have starting running 
back points figured out? 

666
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:13,680
I'm not starting Tracy. 
He's on my bench. 

667
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:18,080
Do I hold Tracy on my bench or 
do I cut him for Blake Quorum? 

668
00:41:19,240 --> 00:41:24,160
You probably you probably the 
the turn there makes sense. 

669
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:31,120
It it and it is like I guess the
the the reason for quorum is to 

670
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:35,240
continue an upside because even 
though he's getting every 3rd 

671
00:41:35,240 --> 00:41:40,520
Dr. they still seem to be 
prioritizing and goal line stuff

672
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,880
to Chiron. 
Like if I look up Blake Horn 

673
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,080
Corum, he's only got 1 inside 
the five carry this year. 

674
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:56,320
Where's Chiron has seven, 
including four in the last two 

675
00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,520
games for just one to Blake 
Horn. 

676
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,120
Yeah, Kyra's still their 
favorite, but they're they're. 

677
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,040
Working. 
Yeah, yeah. 

678
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,640
Meaningfully. 
And he's like for clear, clear. 

679
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:09,720
And they're using him in the 
higher leverage, higher fantasy 

680
00:42:09,720 --> 00:42:14,680
scoring situations. 
But they clearly love Quorum. 

681
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:18,800
And if something happens to Kyra
like it's the Quorum show. 

682
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,880
Yeah. 
The next note I had, there were 

683
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,640
a couple couple down 
performances from some top 

684
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,280
producing running backs. 
I wanted to get your, just your 

685
00:42:29,280 --> 00:42:32,120
quick thoughts on are you 
concerned at all about any of 

686
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,600
these or is this just kind of 
like noise, you know, just a 

687
00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:38,360
blip? 
Javonte Williams. 

688
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:45,800
So this is kind of the second 
bad Javonte game of the year and

689
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,160
which is kind of interesting 
though he had the bad game and 

690
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:54,200
then he had the bounce back. 
Let me see. 

691
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:59,680
So obviously he had the bad game
for just raw efficiency. 

692
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,280
I'm trying to see though, did he
break any? 

693
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,600
Did he break any tackles? 
So. 

694
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,080
He had a sick pass block. 
He had a really sick pass. 

695
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:14,600
Block. 
Here's one interesting He he, he

696
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:19,760
forced 7 missed tackles against 
the Cardinals. 

697
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:29,040
He had two breakaway runs, 34 
breakaway yards. 

698
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:36,800
I think, I think that the, the, 
the Cardinals just dominated 

699
00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:41,400
the, I think they just dominated
the, the, the, the, the, the 

700
00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:46,160
Cowboys online. 
I I, I don't, I don't think 

701
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:47,720
Jomante necessarily had a bad 
game. 

702
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:51,440
No, it's it's not one I would be
concerned about. 

703
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,480
Going forward, OK, next one, 
like he still had five and a 

704
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,000
half yards per tempt. 
Like, OK, I'm I'm belaboring 

705
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,840
like he had he had a good game. 
It just it didn't work out. 

706
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,240
From fantasy wise, Yeah. 
Next one Jonathan Taylor, are 

707
00:44:06,240 --> 00:44:08,040
you worried? 
Oh, yeah. 

708
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:12,640
I, I guess the, the issue for 
Jonathan Taylor is that it's, he

709
00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,560
kind of got game scripted out, 
didn't he? 

710
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:20,000
And not that, not that. 
I mean, look, I think he 

711
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:30,200
probably still played a lot and 
locking that up now, So John and

712
00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:34,320
Taylor, yeah, he still, he still
played the majority of the 

713
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:38,560
snaps. 
He's still like he ran 37 routes

714
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:44,000
to Admir Abdullah's 4, but they 
didn't target him. 

715
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:49,600
He had a 5% target Sprint run .3
yards per route. 

716
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:54,760
So in, in these kind of past 
heavy games where they're 

717
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,800
running a lot of or where 
they're trying a lot, I, I, I, 

718
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,640
it's hard for Jon Taylor to get 
going. 

719
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:06,960
He only had 14 rush attempts. 
Have you seen how many rushing 

720
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,480
yards he had? 
I can I can look that up real 

721
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,040
quick. 
Yeah, he, I mean, he played 62 

722
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,240
snaps. 
You end up with Tyler Goodson in

723
00:45:14,240 --> 00:45:16,440
the game at one point and then 
Amir. 

724
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:18,640
Right. 
He dominated the snaps. 

725
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:23,960
He dominated the snaps. 
But but yeah, he only ends up he

726
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,880
gets 45 rushing yards total and 
then 12. 

727
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:34,720
Receiving right on 14 attempts. 
So he ran 37 routes, like I 

728
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:38,760
said, dominated in snaps, but 
they didn't throw him the ball 

729
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:43,440
and he only had two targets on 
those and for 12 yards. 

730
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:48,160
And so I think that makes sense 
because Jonathan Taylor, like 

731
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:53,280
he's kind of like beast mode 
with running the ball, but he's 

732
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,320
not really a good, he's not 
really a receiver like he, and 

733
00:45:56,360 --> 00:46:01,000
he hasn't been like, what is 
this is his 123? 

734
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,640
It's a six year in the league. 
Like we know who he is and he's 

735
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,880
he's not a receiver. 
So in, in those games where 

736
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,920
they're in trailing game 
scripts, like you probably will 

737
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:15,120
get some games like this. 
I I, I don't think you're going 

738
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:19,480
to get a lot of that sub 4 yards
for attempts games. 

739
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:26,800
So like this is probably like 
the combination of parlay of two

740
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,320
bad things, bad game scripts, 
bad efficiency. 

741
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,480
Like you could see a bad game 
script game where he 

742
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,920
nevertheless still rips off a 50
yard touchdown. 

743
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:42,640
So it's an OK game. 
But we noted earlier in the show

744
00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:44,400
that they have some tougher 
matchups. 

745
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:49,280
And so those those could be a 
bigger struggle. 

746
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:54,200
And maybe you're not getting 100
yards, 150 yards and tree 

747
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:58,520
touchdowns every game. 
Maybe, maybe there's going to be

748
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,160
some of these type of games 
sprinkled in as well, is what 

749
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:05,040
I'd say. 
Yeah, as we as we kind of get 

750
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,720
further in the season, let me 
let me read you some opponents 

751
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:15,440
that JT has already faced. 
So he faced the Dolphins, the 

752
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:25,200
Titans twice, the Raiders. 
And then going forward, we're we

753
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,000
are all out of Titans. 
You know, we, we don't have any 

754
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,200
like Bengals or Cowboys or any 
of those like really cushy 

755
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:34,600
matchups. 
He's got Falcons, Chiefs, 

756
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,640
Texans, then Jags, Seahawks, 
49ers, Jags. 

757
00:47:40,600 --> 00:47:43,560
Yeah, he's got Jags twice, 
Texans twice. 

758
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,800
Texans are in Week 18 though for
the second one, so for our OK, 

759
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:50,000
won't matter but. 
OK, good talk. 

760
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,560
But yeah, it's, it's not a, it's
not a walk in the park for his 

761
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:58,160
upcoming schedule. 
Yeah, fantastic player. 

762
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,000
Like he's definitely going to 
have some big games rest of the 

763
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:03,200
year. 
They're they're a great team. 

764
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:06,240
He's a fantastic player. 
Like they're they're going to 

765
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:07,920
curb some some more teams, I 
think. 

766
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,640
But the the schedule is much, 
much tougher. 

767
00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:15,440
Much tougher. 
Like they they, like you said, 

768
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,400
they've already played the 
Titans twice, so that's out. 

769
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,840
And now they've gotten the two 
tough defenses twice, one of 

770
00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,000
them Week 18. 
They've got the Chiefs. 

771
00:48:27,840 --> 00:48:31,560
Yeah. 
If you were, if you're offering 

772
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:36,760
me odds, is he going to score 
less points in Week 10 through 

773
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:41,720
17 per game than he did one 
through 9 like you'd probably 

774
00:48:41,720 --> 00:48:44,720
give? 
Those would probably be pretty 

775
00:48:44,720 --> 00:48:47,240
short odds that he'd scored last
per game. 

776
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:53,760
Yeah, yeah, I think you're 
probably like 3 to one that he 

777
00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:57,400
is going to, you know, outscore 
like even worse potentially just

778
00:48:57,400 --> 00:49:00,280
because he's ran so nuclear hot 
in the first, right. 

779
00:49:00,720 --> 00:49:03,880
Again, like not taking anything 
away from him, He's he'll still 

780
00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,760
probably be, you know, the best 
player in fantasy for this 

781
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,480
season. 
But we're just saying relative 

782
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,760
to what he's done already this 
season, like it's probably gonna

783
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,000
be an uphill battle for him to 
to be that good to close out the

784
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,440
season. 
It'll still probably be very, 

785
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:20,480
very good. 
OK, Last guy. 

786
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,400
Did you have any concern for 
Jameer Gibbs in his bad 

787
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:26,720
performance against the Vikings?
No. 

788
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:32,520
There was a sorry, go ahead. 
No, you go ahead. 

789
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,520
There is some really good 
analysis from Gretsch on this 

790
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,640
one. 
And he he shouted out, I'm the 

791
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:41,440
name is escaping me of the guy 
who did the write up on this. 

792
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,680
But he was, he's mentioning that
the Vikings really, really 

793
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,880
focused on getting a gap 
pressure. 

794
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,720
And it was effectively, it's 
basically like a way to cover 

795
00:49:51,720 --> 00:49:56,560
Gibbs while also, you know, 
forcing Goff to get the ball out

796
00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,640
quickly. 
Because if they just send a gap 

797
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:02,800
pressure all the time, then 
Gibbs is the one that's picking 

798
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,200
it up. 
And so it's like. 

799
00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:07,840
Well, you have to block your 
running back if there's AA gap 

800
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:08,960
pressure. 
Yeah. 

801
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:15,800
If you you had 15 pass blocks 
for for Gibbs in week nine and 

802
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:20,400
only two for Montgomery. 
Like Gibbs was on the field for 

803
00:50:20,440 --> 00:50:26,880
32 and pass it passing plays and
and Monty was on for 12. 

804
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:33,680
But you you only had 17 like 17 
rats for Gibbs versus 10 for 

805
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:36,160
Monty like that. 
That makes sense. 

806
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:41,200
And then his target spread run 
supremely depressed with only 

807
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:48,120
18%, I guess only 18% but and 
his yards per hour run pretty 

808
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,320
low too. 
So he must not have been 

809
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:52,080
catching at those targets 
either. 

810
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,840
Yeah, I just thought that was a 
really cool, right strategic 

811
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:02,000
decision by by the Vikings to 
say, hey, what if we just did 

812
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:04,960
this thing that, you know, kills
two birds with one stone? 

813
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,920
We'll get pressure and we also 
will not have to cover Jameer 

814
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:10,160
Gibbs like that. 
Does that sound like a good 

815
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:11,400
thing? 
Does that sound like a thing we 

816
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:13,120
want to do? 
Let's go ahead and do that. 

817
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:17,320
So you know I. 
I I bet, I bet there's counters 

818
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:20,160
like you. 
You live in one of your your 

819
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:22,520
you're. 
You're blocking tight ends in 

820
00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:25,600
the backfield and and you block 
him instead. 

821
00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:30,800
Yeah, I mean, or, or you just 
design, you know, quick screens 

822
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:33,880
where Gibbs goes like he's gonna
pick up the guy and he just lets

823
00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:37,000
them through and all of a sudden
here, you know, Jameer Gibbs 

824
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,280
with a convoy of offensive 
lineman or downfield. 

825
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:40,720
So. 
Right, I'm sure the. 

826
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:44,560
Wound block, the Diego guy, like
stuff like there's, there's, 

827
00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:46,480
yeah, like you're saying, 
there's there's different ways 

828
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,040
of getting around it or you just
play Gibbs in the slot. 

829
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:53,600
Yeah, it's like, yeah, use use 
someone else to block, please. 

830
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,800
Yeah, yeah, let's let's get our 
most explosive player actually 

831
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,040
involved where he can get the 
ball. 

832
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,800
But yeah, the Giant or the Lions
did not figure that out. 

833
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:02,960
Lions did not figure that out in
real time. 

834
00:52:03,240 --> 00:52:05,880
And that definitely was a big 
part to them losing. 

835
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,240
But I agree with you, no concern
for me on Gibbs going forward. 

836
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:15,920
OK, A couple other quick ones. 
Is it Jover for Trevion 

837
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,760
Henderson, he gets all the 
opportunity. 

838
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:23,880
I think for me it's more of like
a tale of two halves where if 

839
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:26,640
you watch the start of this 
game, Trevion looked pretty 

840
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,720
awesome, man, Like I was, I was 
into it. 

841
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:31,560
He's he's converting first down 
after first down. 

842
00:52:32,240 --> 00:52:34,520
Got a couple chunk runs like 
right off the bat. 

843
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,120
It's looking good. 
It felt like they were using him

844
00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:40,240
more in the ways. 
I mean, they did run in between 

845
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:44,560
the tackles some and he was fine
there, but there were a couple 

846
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,640
plays where they just get him 
outside and it's like, yeah, 

847
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:49,360
this guy's pretty good when you 
get him in space. 

848
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,800
But then the second-half was 
just like nothing. 

849
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:56,760
Like I believe the majority of 
his opportunity comes in the 

850
00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:03,880
first half and he just was after
the the initial like really 

851
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:07,640
couple good runs he has the 
efficiency was not there for the

852
00:53:07,640 --> 00:53:10,440
rest of the day. 
So I don't know if it was more 

853
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,720
of a team level thing because 
the Patriots as a whole looked a

854
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:14,680
little out of funk in the 
second-half. 

855
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,440
But what did what did you think 
about Trevion here in his his? 

856
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:23,840
Yeah, so I'm looking at his 
stats and obviously he so he was

857
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:30,200
on the field for what 51 he had,
He played 51 snaps. 

858
00:53:31,720 --> 00:53:38,240
He had a 75% snap share. 
And here's here's what's crazy 

859
00:53:38,240 --> 00:53:43,360
to me is you're telling me he 
only had a 3.9 yards per tent, 

860
00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:47,160
which obviously not great, like 
not not what we want. 

861
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:52,160
He only had five targets for 
receptions for 32 yards. 

862
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:56,960
So 888 was that 88 yards per 
catch. 

863
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:04,320
And we obviously we want, we 
wanted a better game. 

864
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,480
We did. 
We really, really wanted a 

865
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:13,160
better game with the reminder 
injury, like 75% snapshare and 

866
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:17,920
he doesn't play that great. 
It I, I, I'm obviously an 

867
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:23,480
apologist at this point, but 
the, the team not having a great

868
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,360
game. 
It, it does shade that a little 

869
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:26,880
bit. 
It's hard. 

870
00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:33,320
It's hard to panic on that. 
And like you'd you'd like to see

871
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,080
him force more than one missed 
tackle. 

872
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,440
You'd like to see a long run of 
of longer than 8 yards. 

873
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,120
Can we get any long runs please 
for the home run hitter? 

874
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:47,000
Yeah, right. 
Are there any long runs 

875
00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:50,040
available? 
Like he had a 27 yard running 

876
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:54,440
against Cleveland and that 
that's been the longest of the 

877
00:54:54,440 --> 00:55:03,400
year by I I go to mount like 
it's it's not Jover and and 

878
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,800
honestly, this, this is better 
than I could have been. 

879
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:10,080
Like I was really. 
I agree that with Ramandre out 

880
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:13,720
that that they were going to 
committee the shit out of him. 

881
00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,000
At least they made him the clear
starter over Jennings. 

882
00:55:17,640 --> 00:55:21,440
Like Jennings also a rookie and 
but it would have been nice to 

883
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:25,120
see him take a better advantage 
of of the opportunity. 

884
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:30,920
Yeah, I, I actually, I'm taking 
this as part of it is like 

885
00:55:31,280 --> 00:55:34,920
setting the table of of where we
really were on Trayvion. 

886
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:38,920
We were like, we were very 
squarely on the way to bust 

887
00:55:38,920 --> 00:55:40,840
town. 
You're like bust was the most 

888
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,680
likely outcome, you know, prior 
to this week. 

889
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:50,480
I think you got enough this week
where it's like the probability 

890
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,600
of bus declined a little bit. 
I think it's still the most 

891
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,480
likely outcome, but they had but
if. 

892
00:55:55,760 --> 00:55:58,760
It was a just pure committee, 
like it would be like, Oh my. 

893
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,120
God, it's it's toast. 
Yeah. 

894
00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:05,280
But yeah, I think, I think 
we're, we are firmly in the 

895
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:07,640
leaving the light on territory 
for Trayvion. 

896
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:14,600
Yeah, yeah, I saw somebody, 
somebody in the chat. 

897
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:19,480
Sorry, I'm only saying yeah, 
somebody was saying that Swift 

898
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:24,240
and Manangai are the same size 
so they're interchangeable. 

899
00:56:26,720 --> 00:56:31,800
That blows my mind, but I don't 
it doesn't feel true. 

900
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:38,640
DeAndre Swift, Wait. 
So it's just like 220 coming 

901
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:44,560
out. 
I thought 0205 OK. 205 and his 

902
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:55,760
height is 5/8 and then Manon guy
wait is 2O7AT58 That's 

903
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:57,160
interesting. 
Yeah. 

904
00:56:57,240 --> 00:57:01,160
So at the Manon guy. 
It was like a slower version of 

905
00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,840
Swift. 
OK, yeah, Swift was 212 official

906
00:57:04,840 --> 00:57:09,720
at the combine, but he he's 
definitely smaller than that, I 

907
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:10,920
guess. 
Yeah, yeah. 

908
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:14,080
Well, I think the other thing is
that he he plays smaller than 

909
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:18,600
that yes, when you're when 
you're at the goal line, you 

910
00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,240
don't want somebody who's just 
going to like change like new 

911
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,800
plan. 
No, you want like shortest 

912
00:57:25,800 --> 00:57:31,280
distance between two points. 
NS get her in and I could I I'm 

913
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,880
just saying I could see 
somebody. 

914
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:37,600
I could see the coaching staff 
preparing that from the non guy,

915
00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:40,320
but that that is a good point 
that they're that they're 

916
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,520
practically the same weight. 
But I, I, I, they don't. 

917
00:57:43,600 --> 00:57:47,520
They don't play some right. 
Yeah, agreed. 

918
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:51,840
OK, we, we need to finish up 
running backs here because we've

919
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,600
been taking a while here. 
All right, I'm going to just 

920
00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:58,960
rapid fire this one. 
I had a note. 

921
00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:02,920
I regret to inform you, Tyrone 
Tracy is not it when the guy 

922
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:06,600
cannot beat Devin Singletary for
for snapshare. 

923
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,720
Sorry, that's just it's not 
going to cut it. 

924
00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,400
Don't think we need to add any 
more analysis there. 

925
00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:17,320
They're just both if you're if 
you're having to start either, 

926
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:19,640
like I'm very sorry for your 
loss. 

927
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,240
Other fringe running backs that 
you could be sad about. 

928
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:30,240
Texans running backs just I 
mean, yeah, Woody Marks is the 

929
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:33,640
one you want to own, but it's 
like, which would you prefer? 

930
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:35,680
Do you want to stub your toe or 
do you want a paper cut? 

931
00:58:35,800 --> 00:58:40,840
Like there's no winner here, You
know, it's just it just stinks. 

932
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:45,280
The other one you could be sad 
about Kamani Vidal. 

933
00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:48,880
So this is weird. 
Patterson actually got basically

934
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:50,960
the same number of touches as 
Vidal. 

935
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,360
I don't know if you saw this. 
Vidal plays way more snaps than 

936
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,760
Patterson, but they basically 
get the same amount of work. 

937
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:04,160
I mean, to me, this is just 
like, hey, by the time Hampton 

938
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:07,920
is back, don't worry about 
Vidal, really. 

939
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,920
But. 
Yeah, so they, they, they gave 

940
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:19,320
him, they gave Vidal 12 at rush 
attempts, Patterson 9 and then 

941
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:24,520
Vidal gets 24 routes to 
Patterson's tree, but none of 

942
00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:28,120
them get targets. 
No, no, no targets for you, Sir.

943
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,680
Which it is. 
It's surprising that there was 

944
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:38,320
no check downs. 
But I don't know, like if if 

945
00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:41,120
you're Justin Herbert and you 
have this pretty nice wide 

946
00:59:41,120 --> 00:59:45,600
receiver on tight end room, do 
you want to throw it to Kimani 

947
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:47,240
Vidal? 
I didn't think so. 

948
00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:51,920
No, I think I'll just throw it 
to Rhonda Gadsden or Vlad 

949
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:56,640
Mcconkey and then the last 
fringe running back that you can

950
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:59,680
be sad about Bill, Corey, 
Krosky, Merritt. 

951
01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:04,200
I think it's pretty not good for
him with Daniels out. 

952
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:08,400
I think Daniels helps a lot for 
Bill. 

953
01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:14,680
I think it's definitely worse 
now that the Daniels is not 

954
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:19,640
going to be there. 
I mean, I, I heard some, I heard

955
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:22,280
some analysis that like, oh, 
well, they've got nothing to 

956
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,440
play for anymore. 
So maybe they'll just feed him a

957
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,560
bunch of work. 
It's like I that's that's more 

958
01:00:27,560 --> 01:00:31,960
like a Hopi about me. 
Yeah, yeah, I don't know. 

959
01:00:31,960 --> 01:00:35,440
Like that could happen. 
You know, he could get more work

960
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:39,120
because they don't really want 
to, you know, put the ball in 

961
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,920
Marcus Mariota's hands a ton. 
But I don't know, man. 

962
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,640
I think I think it's a net 
negative when you lose a 

963
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,400
quarterback as good as Jayden 
Daniels. 

964
01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:51,440
Like you needed, you needed 
touchdown equity for you need 

965
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:54,320
touchdown equity for Bill. 
And this definitely hurts the 

966
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,520
touchdown equity. 
So I think it's a pretty big net

967
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,600
negative for him. 
He's still getting opportunity. 

968
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:06,360
And Snapshare running back. 
So he's like he's like the head 

969
01:01:06,360 --> 01:01:11,920
of a tree way committee, which 
is not am it. 

970
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,640
That's not very good. 
And then you take the the the 

971
01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:19,960
ceiling of the offensive 
efficiency from led by Jaylen 

972
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:24,240
Daniel Jayden, Jaylen Daniels to
Marcus Mariota. 

973
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:30,880
And this is like probably 
borderline startable for fantasy

974
01:01:30,960 --> 01:01:35,480
boardable board bordering and 
startable. 

975
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:39,440
But it's just not very exciting,
I think. 

976
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,960
And if you look at if you look 
at some of his kind of stats, 

977
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:47,160
he's played pretty well. 
Like his his yards over expected

978
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:51,880
per attempt is pretty good. 
So he just hasn't had big runs 

979
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:54,240
lately. 
Like the last four games he just

980
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,400
hasn't had any big runs, which 
is. 

981
01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:00,320
You know, it's definitely, yeah,
that's a little fluky. 

982
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:06,880
So, so perhaps perhaps that you 
you got some big games or bigger

983
01:02:06,880 --> 01:02:11,760
games going forward. 
But again, he's also a seven 

984
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:13,600
round pick. 
Even though the team really 

985
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,960
likes him, they've given him the
backfield or they've given him 

986
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:23,720
the lead in the backfield. 
It's, it's not like we have this

987
01:02:23,720 --> 01:02:26,240
special reason to think he's a 
special talent. 

988
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:32,080
So I, I, I agree with you, you 
could have big games going 

989
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:34,880
forward like you did have the, 
the massive game against the 

990
01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:43,520
Chargers, but it is a, it's, 
it's, it's definitely lower than

991
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:48,720
50 percentile outcome than you 
would have given at the start of

992
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,760
September. 
OK, my last note, I believe that

993
01:02:53,760 --> 01:02:56,880
we are going to have to go to 
the backups chart to see this 

994
01:02:56,880 --> 01:03:00,520
guy. 
Yeah, sure. 

995
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:08,360
But RJ Harvey has has now scored
enough. 

996
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,880
I mean, all he does is score 
touchdowns. 

997
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:14,200
So you know, he he's got that 
going for him. 

998
01:03:14,560 --> 01:03:20,280
But he scored enough to where in
the lowest of keys, he's not 

999
01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:23,400
actually that bad of a best ball
pick where he went. 

1000
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,520
I mean, he's not great for 
managed because you're never 

1001
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,320
actually starting him right. 
And and if you are, it's it's 

1002
01:03:29,320 --> 01:03:34,400
probably because you're losing. 
But he's he's put up three like 

1003
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:39,120
very usable weeks for best ball.
You know, you'd prefer to have 

1004
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:45,120
more, But I, I think he's, he's 
starting to become not that bad 

1005
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,520
of a pick. 
I mean, provided that you built 

1006
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:50,160
a running backroom around and 
that could could support a guy 

1007
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,440
who's really not. 
Helpful most. 

1008
01:03:53,880 --> 01:03:59,160
Was Bayday injured last week? 
I don't think so. 

1009
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,560
Let me. 
Because he didn't play a snap. 

1010
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:06,630
Let's see. 
I. 

1011
01:04:10,670 --> 01:04:18,330
Don't see anything. 
Yeah, I don't. 

1012
01:04:18,330 --> 01:04:23,320
I don't see anything on it. 
No, I don't see any either. 

1013
01:04:23,320 --> 01:04:27,880
When I type in his name, I see 
these like what you call it. 

1014
01:04:29,160 --> 01:04:36,160
I see Broncos fan accounts with 
fiction that they're going to 

1015
01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,240
trade Beatty to to the Dolphins 
for jail. 

1016
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:43,240
He did. 
He did play a he played snaps in

1017
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,120
in Week 9. 
He has 13 snaps in the 

1018
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,000
backfield. 
Oh, OK, OK. 

1019
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:51,960
I might, yeah. 
He just. 

1020
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,080
OK, He he on, on, on, on 
rushing. 

1021
01:04:57,120 --> 01:04:59,560
So yeah, OK. 
Yeah, Yeah, you're right, You're

1022
01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:00,760
right. 
Yeah, he just, he didn't have 

1023
01:05:00,760 --> 01:05:01,600
any. 
Carries. 

1024
01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:04,040
He didn't play snaps, so he had 
turtane snaps. 

1025
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:13,800
He had one. 
He had Turtane routes 1. 

1026
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:19,400
Rounds 13 routes, yeah. 
OK. 

1027
01:05:19,400 --> 01:05:23,120
So he didn't, he didn't get a 
target and how many routes did? 

1028
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:29,880
So Harvey had 17 routes, so at 
least advanced past Bay Day in 

1029
01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:32,800
terms of like receiving work, 
which that's positive. 

1030
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:37,520
He also got 5 targets, so 7 
touches. 

1031
01:05:38,160 --> 01:05:41,840
And if you're going to score a 
touchdown once every seven 

1032
01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,640
touches, you're going to be 
pretty good. 

1033
01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:50,000
Yeah, he, I think actually 
Harvey probably benefited the 

1034
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:56,560
most from from Mims being out 
because he kind of, he kind of 

1035
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:59,640
got the stuff that Mims got last
year out of the backfield, 

1036
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:03,000
right. 
Right, that that makes sense. 

1037
01:06:03,520 --> 01:06:07,120
So yeah, it's it's weird. 
Harvey is kind of like the. 

1038
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:11,320
I mean, if you're looking for. 
It's encouraging that he's he's 

1039
01:06:11,320 --> 01:06:14,960
he's gone past them Bayday, 
though, like he was kind of 

1040
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:19,280
stuck sharing or behind Bayday 
in past and receiving stuff area

1041
01:06:19,280 --> 01:06:22,240
in the year and now he he's 
advanced past them. 

1042
01:06:22,720 --> 01:06:27,520
So he he's kind of charging in 
on a 1B roll, which not what he 

1043
01:06:27,520 --> 01:06:31,240
wanted, but. 
He's like fledgling, fledgling 

1044
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,600
joker role in the Sean Payton 
offense, which again, you, you'd

1045
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,000
really love more than that. 
But I, I, he's one where down 

1046
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:41,000
the stretch, it wouldn't 
surprise me to see him get more 

1047
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:44,880
opportunity, you know, and make 
it more of an even split with 

1048
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,840
Dobbins. 
Just he's, he's just keeps 

1049
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,480
scoring touchdowns, man. 
Like, there's all, there's only 

1050
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:54,960
so, so much you can do to earn 
your way out of the field. 

1051
01:06:54,960 --> 01:07:00,160
But I do think he's, he's 1. 
You have to be at least a little

1052
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:03,280
excited for going forward. 
The the you know, we definitely 

1053
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,720
are leaving the light on for 
him, too. 

1054
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:08,480
Right, right, right, right. 
For sure. 

1055
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:14,000
And the last two weeks he's been
ahead, yeah, updating in 

1056
01:07:14,000 --> 01:07:18,200
receiving work marginally. 
But like you said, if he keeps 

1057
01:07:18,200 --> 01:07:20,880
going touch sounds, what else 
does he have to do? 

1058
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,800
We had a question in the chat, 
what do you make of the 

1059
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:27,520
Cardinals backfield? 
Is Bam Knight droppable and 

1060
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,920
FFPC? 
I mean, if you have starting 

1061
01:07:30,920 --> 01:07:33,560
running backs, Yeah, like, 
there's no, there's no ceiling 

1062
01:07:33,560 --> 01:07:35,360
for him. 
You're not, You know, you're the

1063
01:07:35,360 --> 01:07:38,160
reason Bam Knight is on your 
roster is because otherwise 

1064
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:40,880
you're gonna play someone that's
gonna score two or three points,

1065
01:07:40,960 --> 01:07:43,080
you know? 
And very likely that time is 

1066
01:07:43,080 --> 01:07:45,760
coming for Bam Knight here. 
If Trey Benson gets back. 

1067
01:07:46,880 --> 01:07:49,800
Yeah. 
One thing that I noticed is in 

1068
01:07:49,800 --> 01:07:53,600
in the South, the game away 
mode, and this is one of the few

1069
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:56,000
games I actually watched in the 
South the game away. 

1070
01:07:56,600 --> 01:08:00,800
I I so I had I had a matchup at 
where we had McBride against Bam

1071
01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:03,360
Knight. 
We had the points advantage, but

1072
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,600
you we had a sweat. 
So I was I was following Bam 

1073
01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,240
Knight in them in the salt the 
game away. 

1074
01:08:12,360 --> 01:08:17,439
It was dim Mccardo who's getting
the carries and when when when 

1075
01:08:17,439 --> 01:08:19,479
they needed to get first downs, 
it was him. 

1076
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:24,920
And if you look at Dim Ricardo, 
he had 14 rush attempts to Bam 

1077
01:08:24,920 --> 01:08:27,880
Knights 9. 
So it kind of started the game 

1078
01:08:27,880 --> 01:08:30,800
with Bam Knight getting a lot of
the rush attempts and finished 

1079
01:08:30,800 --> 01:08:33,760
the game with Dem Ricardo 
getting the rush attempts. 

1080
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:38,920
And what's kind of surprising is
that Knight still finishes ahead

1081
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:42,880
and routes, whereas I always 
thought of Demericado as like 

1082
01:08:43,560 --> 01:08:48,319
the receiving work guy for now. 
So that's, I have to admit, a 

1083
01:08:48,319 --> 01:08:56,600
little bit confusing, but I 
think unless there's an 

1084
01:08:56,600 --> 01:08:59,880
unreported injury or something 
like that, you're probably 

1085
01:08:59,880 --> 01:09:05,319
looking at 50% Bam night. 
And yeah, maybe. 

1086
01:09:05,399 --> 01:09:06,600
And then there's another note 
here. 

1087
01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:13,840
Maybe it was just a drive by Dr.
Rotation and I, I, I, I 

1088
01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:17,840
certainly didn't notice that, 
but but I think that does speak 

1089
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:24,840
to like you're probably looking 
at a 50% work share right now 

1090
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:31,319
and that that obviously goes 
away When when what's his name? 

1091
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,640
Who's the Benson? 
Benson comes back Yeah. 

1092
01:09:37,439 --> 01:09:40,760
Is he dropable? 
Yeah. 

1093
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,200
The, the the wire is pretty 
barren at this time of year. 

1094
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:47,120
I think you still give him 
another week to kind of figure 

1095
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:48,880
it out, to figure out where he's
at. 

1096
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:56,000
And but you were probably you're
probably not feeling too bad 

1097
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:57,600
starting him going into last 
night. 

1098
01:09:57,600 --> 01:10:00,920
But after last night, like he's 
a pretty shaky start. 

1099
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:06,480
Is is is my analysis? 
All right, let's move on to 

1100
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:08,880
tight end here. 
Yep. 

1101
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:16,080
So this is this is this is what 
we've all been waiting for. 

1102
01:10:18,400 --> 01:10:20,880
I mean, I think we have to, we 
got to start with the cover boy,

1103
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:23,080
we got to start with the Brock 
Bowers analysis. 

1104
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:28,280
So 37% targets per route run for
Bowers. 

1105
01:10:29,400 --> 01:10:33,680
It seems pretty good. 
My, my note on this is there 

1106
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,840
will be no survivors among the 
faders. 

1107
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,640
I, I mean, like, here's the 
thing. 

1108
01:10:39,480 --> 01:10:43,800
You don't need a 37% targets per
route run for Bowers to 

1109
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:46,600
annihilate you, but you might 
just get it. 

1110
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:51,960
Like it's not going to stay at 
37% for the whole season. 

1111
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:56,040
But I mean, talk about building 
the plane out of a guy. 

1112
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,200
They're they're actually not 
building the plane out of Brock 

1113
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,760
Bowers. 
The plane is Brock Bowers. 

1114
01:11:00,760 --> 01:11:03,480
There's no like there's no parts
that you're building out of 

1115
01:11:03,480 --> 01:11:05,440
Bowers. 
The whole thing is Bowers. 

1116
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:09,440
And I think it's pretty evident 
too, because you look at Gino in

1117
01:11:09,440 --> 01:11:12,160
the two games where you have 
Bowers healthy, he puts up 

1118
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:15,320
decent games. 
And also like if you watch Gino 

1119
01:11:15,320 --> 01:11:20,200
play almost every snap he's 
immediately staring at Bowers. 

1120
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,720
Like I haven't looked at the 
first retarget stuff yet. 

1121
01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:26,240
The first retarget stuff for 
Bowers has to be through the 

1122
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:28,960
roof man. 
Because it's you can. 

1123
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:31,960
I mean, you can just bet on it 
every snap. 

1124
01:11:31,960 --> 01:11:35,280
Like you already knew where 
Gino's head was going to turn, 

1125
01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:36,800
just like, OK, where's Bowers 
lined up? 

1126
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:38,200
Oh, he's over there. 
He's on the right side of the 

1127
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,520
field. 
He's lined up out wide right 

1128
01:11:39,520 --> 01:11:41,280
now. 
OK Gino's going to look right 

1129
01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:42,080
first. 
Oh, Yep. 

1130
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:43,040
There he goes. 
OK. 

1131
01:11:43,440 --> 01:11:46,360
And then it's like, oh, Bowers 
is running like a longer 

1132
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,800
developing route. 
He's like going up the seam. 

1133
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:53,160
Oh, OK, Gino started, you know, 
from the left here, and he's 

1134
01:11:53,160 --> 01:11:54,400
working. 
You know, there's a guy that's 

1135
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,280
working underneath. 
He's checking that for, like, a 

1136
01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:58,200
quick hitter. 
And then he progresses to 

1137
01:11:58,200 --> 01:12:01,800
looking at Bowers as he goes 
down the field like it's all 

1138
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:04,680
Brock Bauer's all the time. 
Yeah. 

1139
01:12:05,920 --> 01:12:08,840
Yeah, the. 
Next, like what's what's kind of

1140
01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:12,520
wildest that he runs? 
So like he's kind of projected 

1141
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:17,360
to run like a 4-5, which I, I 
think I think that's probably 

1142
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:23,120
about right. 
And he's what, 200 and 42150 

1143
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:27,240
lbs? 
We're like he's he's probably 

1144
01:12:27,240 --> 01:12:33,080
not maybe not quite Gronkowski 
physical dominance and but 

1145
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:37,840
pretty, pretty close to it and 
pretty, pretty fun ride. 

1146
01:12:39,600 --> 01:12:43,120
Yeah, the. 
They obviously they trade, they 

1147
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:47,960
trade Jacoby Myers away and they
bring in and they're going to 

1148
01:12:47,960 --> 01:12:53,600
emphasize probably Tyler Rocket 
more and Jack Beck more, even 

1149
01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:59,120
more reason to to to make Bowers
the feature. 

1150
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:01,600
Yeah, they're, they're going to 
give him all he can handle. 

1151
01:13:03,240 --> 01:13:06,640
All right, the next note that I 
have is you thought this note 

1152
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,280
was going to be about a 
different player. 

1153
01:13:08,280 --> 01:13:10,280
It's actually just another 
Bowers note. 

1154
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:13,160
He is number one in PFF 
receiving grade at the position 

1155
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:17,080
#2 in yards per route run. 
And that's, that's including his

1156
01:13:17,080 --> 01:13:19,720
games where he was playing with 
a massive knee brace. 

1157
01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:23,600
So if you just look at his two 
healthy games in, you know, in 

1158
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:27,000
the second-half of the first 
game of the season, he was not 

1159
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:29,080
healthy. 
But in if you just look at his 

1160
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,880
two healthy games, week one, 
week 9, his yards per round 

1161
01:13:31,880 --> 01:13:36,920
round for those two games is 
3.77 small sample, but you know,

1162
01:13:37,720 --> 01:13:40,320
pretty, pretty good. 
And then when targeting him, 

1163
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:45,160
Gino had a 147.0 passer rating 
last week. 

1164
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:50,000
So again, pretty good. 
Think think Brock Bowers might 

1165
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:53,640
be pretty good. 
OK, that's that's all the Bowers

1166
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,880
stuff. 
I promise we we do need to pour 

1167
01:13:57,880 --> 01:14:01,600
some out for Tucker Kraft here. 
I I feel a little responsible 

1168
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,640
for mushing him. 
I I finally came around and 

1169
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,840
capitulated on what seemed like 
unsustainable efficiency for 

1170
01:14:07,840 --> 01:14:10,800
Tucker Kraft. 
I just, I said it's he's just 

1171
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,000
good. 
He's just kind of baby Kittle, 

1172
01:14:13,000 --> 01:14:16,360
but unfortunately he tears his 
ACL. 

1173
01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:18,880
Always a bummer when a player 
that good. 

1174
01:14:19,000 --> 01:14:21,560
I mean, it's a bummer when any 
of these guys get injured like 

1175
01:14:21,560 --> 01:14:25,200
that and it affects their 
likelihood, but a a big bummer 

1176
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:27,480
when it's a guy that's producing
at the level that he was. 

1177
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:32,480
OK. 
This is 1 where I think Kyle 

1178
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:36,920
Pitts is actually like low key 
pretty good for fantasy. 

1179
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,720
I mean, especially at his cost 
that you were drafting him at. 

1180
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,960
He's just like a very solid, 
getting targets kind of guy with

1181
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:51,200
a decent A dot, and he's right. 
He's Fort in in tight end air 

1182
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:54,800
yards. 
He's probably for this is this 

1183
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:59,120
is for the full year and then 
he's fifth among tight ends for 

1184
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:04,160
targets and you were drafting 
him what probably tight end 

1185
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:09,360
131415I. 
Mean, I think even after that he

1186
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:12,960
was like, yeah, he's going after
Ferguson, after, you know, 

1187
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:21,880
Goddard, after Kincaid. 
So he's pretty, yeah, when they 

1188
01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:24,640
said they were going to get KP 
the ball, they're they are 

1189
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:30,000
getting KP the ball and like 
he's got a 92% route share, 20% 

1190
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:34,600
targets per out run. 
Like obviously I think this is 

1191
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:38,720
disappointing relative to our 
expectations for Kyle Pitt's 

1192
01:15:38,720 --> 01:15:43,520
overall career, but this is a 
pretty good at receiving a tight

1193
01:15:43,520 --> 01:15:44,880
end role. 
You could. 

1194
01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:51,240
You could definitely do worse, 
you know, OK, the next guy, just

1195
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:53,800
we don't have to spend a ton of 
time on this because we've 

1196
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,720
talked about him basically every
week for the last three weeks. 

1197
01:15:56,720 --> 01:15:59,720
But Gadsden is just continuing 
to string together good games. 

1198
01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:04,080
He is like very much a, not just
like involved in the offense, 

1199
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,040
but a, you know, a staple in the
offense going forward. 

1200
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,360
Right. 
Yeah, even on these kind of off 

1201
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:15,520
games, he's still posting like a
15% target spread run close to a

1202
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:19,400
10A dot. 
So still like 10:50 early yards 

1203
01:16:20,040 --> 01:16:23,280
on like a kind of like a down 
game, so to speak. 

1204
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:30,160
Consolidated the route. 
So 85% routes, massive, massive 

1205
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:34,840
win, massive win. 
You you start them every week in

1206
01:16:34,840 --> 01:16:40,600
the flex in the. 
Juwan Johnson is the next guy. 

1207
01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,320
I have a note on he he had a 
good game. 

1208
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:47,440
He gets in the end zone here. 
And what do you think about him 

1209
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:50,600
now after the Shaheed trade? 
I mean, I would assume that he 

1210
01:16:50,600 --> 01:16:52,800
soaks up a little bit of these 
targets. 

1211
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:57,160
He's he's probably a decent buy 
here going forward, yeah. 

1212
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:05,200
Yeah, yeah, he's, I mean he 
he's, he's held on to a pretty 

1213
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:09,800
strong role this year. 
So 82 on, on the full year, 82% 

1214
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:13,120
rats run, 19% targets per out 
run. 

1215
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:18,720
Let me see where he comes out in
terms of like just overall 

1216
01:17:18,720 --> 01:17:20,240
targets. 
That's probably going to be the 

1217
01:17:20,240 --> 01:17:30,840
most favorable to him. 
So Juan Johnson, where is he? 

1218
01:17:30,840 --> 01:17:35,680
Oh, here he is. 
Here he is, so he's so oh, 

1219
01:17:35,680 --> 01:17:37,840
that's why I couldn't find them 
all the way up at the top. 

1220
01:17:37,840 --> 01:17:44,480
He's number 3IN in tight end 
targets and this is on the full 

1221
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:47,880
year. 
So and then #2 just behind 

1222
01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:51,120
McBride in terms of tight end 
our yards. 

1223
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,280
So he had a pretty strong role 
already. 

1224
01:17:55,360 --> 01:18:00,920
And then you probably see some 
of that go more towards him and 

1225
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:06,520
Olave that Shahid was getting. 
I really think, though, that the

1226
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:11,440
shock over Rattler is a bummer. 
That's a really a bummer to me. 

1227
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:17,600
And I'm hoping I'm feeling less 
optimistic than I did last week 

1228
01:18:18,280 --> 01:18:27,520
that they that they transitioned
to to they go back to Rattler 

1229
01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:36,320
and but very, very strong roles 
for the for Juwan Jennings, 

1230
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:38,960
Juwan Johnson is what I'm going 
to say. 

1231
01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:44,760
Speaking of another Johnson, 
Theo Johnson, actually pretty 

1232
01:18:44,760 --> 01:18:46,760
interesting from an opportunity 
standpoint. 

1233
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:52,600
The problem is he's well, I 
don't want to just call him bad,

1234
01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,480
but he is he is both good and 
bad. 

1235
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:59,520
He he has a couple bad drops 
that I I've seen just watching 

1236
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:04,240
the giants like he's not not the
best at the catch point. 

1237
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:09,280
He's he's OK with the ball in 
his hands, but the whole getting

1238
01:19:09,280 --> 01:19:12,520
the ball into his hands part 
seems like that could be a 

1239
01:19:12,520 --> 01:19:13,800
challenge for him. 
But he's getting the 

1240
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:16,920
opportunity. 
He's out there all the time, you

1241
01:19:16,920 --> 01:19:18,960
know, so he's you could do 
worse. 

1242
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:22,120
Yeah, he's got. 
A 78% route share on the year 

1243
01:19:22,760 --> 01:19:28,160
and week 9 now 72. 
So he's so he's close to he's 

1244
01:19:28,160 --> 01:19:34,680
somewhere between 770 and 80% 
route share, 15% targets per run

1245
01:19:34,680 --> 01:19:40,120
on the year. 
He's got what, 7.1 A dot? 

1246
01:19:42,760 --> 01:19:44,640
Yeah, both of both of those have
been trending. 

1247
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,040
Enroll. 
And it's been trending up lately

1248
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,040
is a thing too. 
Like he's higher targets per 

1249
01:19:49,040 --> 01:19:52,160
route run lately, higher a dot. 
Yeah, true, true. 

1250
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:55,360
It's a, it's a solid tight end 
role. 

1251
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,800
It's like you say though, like 
even though like he's definitely

1252
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:05,480
NFL quality, he's not at, he's 
not at the top quality of of the

1253
01:20:05,480 --> 01:20:08,400
position. 
So like you, you, you've got a 

1254
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:10,440
limitation there from the talent
perspective. 

1255
01:20:12,440 --> 01:20:16,240
OK, we saved the best for last. 
I know you're frothing at the 

1256
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:20,240
mouth to get to this tight end, 
but Colson Loveland did a thing.

1257
01:20:20,240 --> 01:20:24,320
Greco. 
Yeah, he he, he had a massive, 

1258
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:31,760
massive breakout and he's 
another guy where his so last 

1259
01:20:31,760 --> 01:20:38,920
week he was at 21% target 
spread, run 77% routes at 11 A 

1260
01:20:38,960 --> 01:20:42,360
dot. 
And they had a lot of dropbacks,

1261
01:20:42,360 --> 01:20:45,480
which I think that that's kind 
of a feature of that Bears 

1262
01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:51,320
offense. 
And then when you compare that 

1263
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,960
his 21% target spread runs, he's
17% for the full year. 

1264
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:02,360
So like I, I, I think my, to 
kind of wrap a narrative around 

1265
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:07,440
this, I think if, if we had not 
seen the command injury, we 

1266
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:11,800
would have seen Loveland surpass
command at this point anyway. 

1267
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:18,280
And and then you see them him 
pull out a massive, massive play

1268
01:21:18,320 --> 01:21:23,760
when they needed to win the game
where like he got open in in the

1269
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:27,160
space between the zone. 
He took a huge hit, like spun 

1270
01:21:27,160 --> 01:21:29,880
around, kept running like he 
didn't like like nothing 

1271
01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:34,000
happened. 
You you that that I'm pretty 

1272
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:36,720
excited about that, where I 
think he's already earned that 

1273
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:41,320
starting role and I'm hopeful 
that the big performance. 

1274
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:44,560
That means that he's a bigger 
part of the the receiving game 

1275
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,240
as well. 
And like such a great rookie 

1276
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:52,560
tight end profile where like he 
he was like the receiving 

1277
01:21:52,560 --> 01:21:58,720
offense at Michigan at such a 
like young age and then supreme,

1278
01:21:58,720 --> 01:22:01,680
supreme draft capital for a 
tight end as well. 

1279
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:07,000
So pretty, pretty excited and I,
I, I was, I, I needed this like 

1280
01:22:07,000 --> 01:22:09,240
I needed there. 
Like, I was like gasping for 

1281
01:22:09,240 --> 01:22:11,880
something from Loveland. 
So, so love to see it. 

1282
01:22:13,040 --> 01:22:17,120
Yeah, definitely optimistic that
he can now make the most of some

1283
01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:21,000
increased opportunity off of 
this big production. 

1284
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:25,200
I think that's all for tight 
ends here. 

1285
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:29,160
I guess the other thing I should
note his A dot for the year is 

1286
01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:31,720
10. 
So like that's pretty, that's 

1287
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:35,600
pretty strong for a tight end. 
So like if you can get decent 

1288
01:22:35,600 --> 01:22:40,240
target share, especially down 
the field on a good route share 

1289
01:22:40,520 --> 01:22:44,480
like that, that's a that that 
should hit pretty, pretty nicely

1290
01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:48,800
down the stretch. 
Yeah, that's a good shout. 

1291
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,600
All right, let's let's head to 
receivers here. 

1292
01:22:58,280 --> 01:23:02,760
So the first note I had on 
receivers is actually Colston 

1293
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:08,280
Loveland's teammate got Roma 
Dunesday here where man, the 

1294
01:23:08,280 --> 01:23:11,160
regression do be hitting hard 
for Roma Dunesday. 

1295
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:15,320
I mean, if you remember back to 
like week 4, Roma Dunesday is 

1296
01:23:15,320 --> 01:23:18,600
like that, the top of the very, 
very top of the chart. 

1297
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:22,160
You know, it turns out you 
cannot sustain scoring 5 

1298
01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:26,840
touchdowns in in four games. 
That's not a thing unfortunately

1299
01:23:26,840 --> 01:23:29,480
over the course of the season, 
unless you're, you know, like 

1300
01:23:29,480 --> 01:23:32,040
with Damien Tomlinson or 
something and with Damian 

1301
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:37,560
Tomlinson, Roma Doonsay is not 
puts, puts up a zero in a game 

1302
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:40,960
with like 80 points, so. 
That's tough, isn't it? 

1303
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:44,600
That's a little disappointing if
you're a Roma Doonsay manager. 

1304
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:52,680
I mean, the you are experiencing
the pendulum of regression 

1305
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:54,360
swinging back the other way 
right now. 

1306
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:58,600
The where the real Roma Doonsay 
production lies is probably a 

1307
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:00,840
little bit better, honestly, 
than where he's sitting. 

1308
01:24:01,160 --> 01:24:03,160
Right. 
Like against Baltimore, they had

1309
01:24:03,160 --> 01:24:07,320
114. 
He had 114 yards on 10 targets. 

1310
01:24:07,320 --> 01:24:09,040
Yeah. 
Whereas this week he only has 

1311
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:12,200
two targets, doesn't catch any 
of them. 

1312
01:24:13,040 --> 01:24:14,920
That that is that is pretty 
puzzling. 

1313
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:19,880
Like did the did the Bengals 
decide you will not beat us with

1314
01:24:19,880 --> 01:24:23,800
Romo, Donzi? 
There there's been some, there's

1315
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,960
been some ball knower film 
grinder talk of, you know, the 

1316
01:24:26,960 --> 01:24:30,400
Bengals shut down corner taking 
away #1 receivers and, and 

1317
01:24:30,400 --> 01:24:34,280
that's why. 
But I mean, part of it, I do 

1318
01:24:34,280 --> 01:24:37,160
think part of it was Caleb kind 
of got frustrated with him early

1319
01:24:37,160 --> 01:24:39,480
in the game. 
Rome, Rome drops a touchdown in 

1320
01:24:39,480 --> 01:24:43,520
the end zone, hits, hits him in 
the hands and Caleb is visibly 

1321
01:24:43,520 --> 01:24:47,560
upset. 
And like, that's it basically 

1322
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,200
like doesn't really throw it 
anymore. 

1323
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,280
I, I kind of feel like Caleb put
him in time out. 

1324
01:24:53,760 --> 01:24:58,680
So I mean, could it be that, you
know, the Bengals #1 corner is, 

1325
01:24:58,680 --> 01:25:01,240
is good. 
And I mean, he, he's definitely 

1326
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:03,800
shut down other #1 receivers 
this season. 

1327
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:09,320
But I, I think it might be, I, I
think it's a little foolish to 

1328
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,000
be like, Oh yeah, that's the 
reason why Roma Dunes didn't 

1329
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,200
produce. 
Like, I, I think that is a 

1330
01:25:14,200 --> 01:25:16,800
factor to why. 
But I, I don't know that that's 

1331
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,520
everything. 
I, I do think part of the roam 

1332
01:25:20,520 --> 01:25:24,040
profile is he's the guy that 
Caleb is passing to deep down 

1333
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:26,280
field. 
And so you are going to be 

1334
01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,400
pretty vulnerable to the 
volatility that comes with that 

1335
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:33,360
role where when it's going good,
it can go really good. 

1336
01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:36,320
Just like Caleb, like Caleb's 
production is like that too. 

1337
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:41,320
Now it's pretty unlucky that it,
it didn't sync up in this 

1338
01:25:41,320 --> 01:25:45,440
massive game for Caleb. 
You know, you you would expect 

1339
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:51,320
that to to trickle to roam some,
but that's just the nature of 

1340
01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:55,160
the profile. 
He has the really D Bay dot and 

1341
01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:59,400
you know, Caleb himself is 
pretty volatile, not the most 

1342
01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:02,280
accurate passer. 
So you're you're just gonna have

1343
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,080
to take the good with the bad 
with a a profile like this. 

1344
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:07,520
I mean like if we were. 
Helping. 

1345
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,200
That's part of the NFL, isn't 
it? 

1346
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:14,480
Where yeah, like sometimes these
receivers, they they have, they 

1347
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:18,480
have small games. 
Yeah, I mean, where where he 

1348
01:26:18,480 --> 01:26:21,800
sits on the on the chart, like 
his his chart neighbors like 

1349
01:26:21,800 --> 01:26:27,280
Devonta Smith, you know, A.J. 
Brown, those are kind of like he

1350
01:26:27,280 --> 01:26:30,320
can nuke just like those guys. 
And he also can have a pretty 

1351
01:26:30,320 --> 01:26:33,360
quiet game just like those guys.
Now they're they're a little 

1352
01:26:33,360 --> 01:26:37,960
different in why they're quiet 
where, you know, for the Bears, 

1353
01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,720
it's just like, oh, it didn't 
work out and for the people. 

1354
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:43,280
If A.J. 
Brown played for the Bears. 

1355
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:47,080
It'd be like he'd just be 
feasting every week, probably. 

1356
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,360
For for the Eagles, it's like, 
oh, we decided that we weren't 

1357
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:53,200
interested in the forward pass 
this week, you know, so it's 

1358
01:26:53,480 --> 01:26:55,760
it's different for why it 
doesn't work for them. 

1359
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,920
But but the all his nearest 
neighbors all are kind of, you 

1360
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:04,960
know, like like DK Metcalf is, 
is sort of like the diet Roma 

1361
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:08,320
Doonese of his offense. 
You know where early in the 

1362
01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:10,720
season he was getting a lot of 
underneath stuff, but lately 

1363
01:27:10,720 --> 01:27:13,120
it's transitioned more to the 
downfield like he's had the 

1364
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:17,360
deeper A dot and he he's like 
the clear number one, just like 

1365
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:19,800
Rome. 
But it does it doesn't always 

1366
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:23,480
work out. 
So I think he's in a he's in the

1367
01:27:23,480 --> 01:27:25,160
right neighborhood on the chart 
now. 

1368
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:27,880
But it wouldn't surprise me if 
by the end of the season we see 

1369
01:27:27,880 --> 01:27:32,400
him like, you know, closer to 
the Pitman range, maybe a little

1370
01:27:32,400 --> 01:27:34,840
below Pitman. 
I bet you see Ibuka still 

1371
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:38,560
migrate up some. 
But yeah, the the negative 

1372
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:42,720
regression for Rome has been 
hitting hard lately, much to the

1373
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:45,040
the chagrin of the Rome 
slappies. 

1374
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:51,040
So OK, the other guy this is 
this is going to be a wild pivot

1375
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:56,120
as far as like player caliber. 
But a guy I really wanted to 

1376
01:27:56,120 --> 01:28:00,120
talk about was Trey Tucker, who 
is is in the wind sprinter 

1377
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,960
category here, but only only 
just now. 

1378
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,880
Part of why it's it's only just 
is because he had that monster 

1379
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:11,000
game earlier this season, second
most fantasy points scored this 

1380
01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,080
season only to his teammate 
Brock Bowers. 

1381
01:28:14,920 --> 01:28:17,640
But I kind of think that now 
that you have Bowers back, the 

1382
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:20,400
Raiders offense is in a position
to be a lot more functional. 

1383
01:28:21,200 --> 01:28:25,960
And also like if you thought 
that defenses were going to get 

1384
01:28:25,960 --> 01:28:29,480
pay attention to Brock Bowers 
before, like let me tell you, 

1385
01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:33,360
like we're we're going to see 
some pretty pretty high double 

1386
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:36,360
team rates for Brock Bowers 
going forward with no Jacoby 

1387
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:39,640
Myers. 
So I think Trey Tucker is live 

1388
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:43,720
to like it feels weird to be 
like, yeah, remember that like 

1389
01:28:43,720 --> 01:28:46,640
crazy fluky game where Trey 
Tucker dropped a 40 burger? 

1390
01:28:46,640 --> 01:28:49,160
Like that's on the table again, 
that's not exactly what I'm 

1391
01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,680
saying. 
But what I am saying is like 

1392
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,680
Trey Tucker feels pretty live to
have some spike weeks down the 

1393
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:58,200
stretch here. 
He's not going to be someone 

1394
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,480
you're really excited to start 
and managed, but like as a min 

1395
01:29:01,480 --> 01:29:04,600
price DFS kind of guy or like 
really low price DFS kind of 

1396
01:29:04,600 --> 01:29:07,320
guy. 
He's interesting to me and 

1397
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,640
you're certainly really happy 
about best ball. 

1398
01:29:09,640 --> 01:29:12,680
Best ball teams with Trey Tucker
on him were all it was already 

1399
01:29:12,680 --> 01:29:16,000
money in the bank and now after 
the Myers trade and Bowers 

1400
01:29:16,000 --> 01:29:19,840
return, it's like the stars are 
aligning for Trey Tucker. 

1401
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:28,040
Yeah. 
And yeah, he, I see he, he had 

1402
01:29:28,040 --> 01:29:32,160
like a 9% target spread run in 
Week 9. 

1403
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:33,600
Yeah. 
And wasn't great. 

1404
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:38,720
That's still that's still 4 
targets because they run so many

1405
01:29:38,720 --> 01:29:45,280
routes. 
This he he was already like you 

1406
01:29:45,280 --> 01:29:48,360
said, a full route share guy. 
So this isn't going to open up 

1407
01:29:48,360 --> 01:29:53,400
more routes for him. 
It's just I guess Jacoby Myers 

1408
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:57,040
was a target magnet and those 
kind of have to go distribute 

1409
01:29:57,040 --> 01:30:00,760
somewhere else and that maybe 
maybe he'll get one or two of 

1410
01:30:00,760 --> 01:30:03,720
those. 
And given and like what you're 

1411
01:30:03,720 --> 01:30:08,000
saying is given that he's the 
field stretcher and Brock Bowers

1412
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,560
probably pulls a lot of that 
attention into the middle of the

1413
01:30:10,560 --> 01:30:15,280
field, him on the outside, maybe
things open up and as a Prairie 

1414
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:20,520
yards and kind of archetype in 
DFS that can be at low 

1415
01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,800
ownership, that can be pretty 
interesting. 

1416
01:30:24,160 --> 01:30:26,680
Yeah. 
OK. 

1417
01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:32,800
Another kind of tangent off the 
Jacoby Myers trade, Do we think 

1418
01:30:32,800 --> 01:30:38,480
that that is signal that Travis 
Hunter's injury is possibly 

1419
01:30:38,480 --> 01:30:43,000
worse than anticipated where the
Jack like? 

1420
01:30:43,000 --> 01:30:47,480
They maintain, they maintain. 
Hey, this one isn't too bad. 

1421
01:30:48,160 --> 01:30:50,440
We put yes, we put him on IR 
straight away. 

1422
01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:54,440
But before they by the way, he 
hadn't had the exam and he was 

1423
01:30:54,440 --> 01:31:02,600
on IR. 
Yeah, it's, it's, it's like a, 

1424
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:08,440
it's like a hard 1 to parse. 
Part of me does wonder about the

1425
01:31:08,440 --> 01:31:10,600
trade, like maybe that's a Brian
Thomas like you. 

1426
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,400
You noted the Brian Thomas 
entry. 

1427
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,400
And he he gets an ankle in this 
game as well. 

1428
01:31:17,560 --> 01:31:19,640
Yeah, he adds to the sprain, 
yeah. 

1429
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:24,360
Then they say it's low grade, 
high ankle sprain, but like 

1430
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:28,120
that, that and I guess so that's
your second receiver injury. 

1431
01:31:29,720 --> 01:31:33,560
That does seem kind of like a, 
it does feel like they've got a 

1432
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:37,440
good catalyst or a good reason 
to trade for a receiver or maybe

1433
01:31:37,440 --> 01:31:41,160
not good to us, but like a clear
reason to trade for a receiver 

1434
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,600
outside of Hunter being done for
the year. 

1435
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,760
Yeah, I think that makes sense. 
I mean, I, I was just looking at

1436
01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:52,160
playoff probabilities because 
we've been working on playoff 

1437
01:31:52,160 --> 01:31:56,400
basketball stuff for the 
sidekick and we we have the 

1438
01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:59,480
Jags, it's 46% to make the 
playoffs right now. 

1439
01:32:00,240 --> 01:32:04,000
So if I put myself in their 
shoes, you know, they're 

1440
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,600
probably looking at it through 
rosier glasses than we are and 

1441
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,280
they're like, oh, we're 
definitely greater than 50% to 

1442
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,280
make the playoffs. 
You know, they probably think 

1443
01:32:11,480 --> 01:32:15,280
they're more likely than not to 
make the playoffs and that Myers

1444
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:18,640
being help at receiver while 
they get healthy is worth the 

1445
01:32:18,640 --> 01:32:22,040
cost. 
It's kind of a steep price to in

1446
01:32:22,040 --> 01:32:27,480
my eyes, for a A1 year rental of
like, you know, you, you maybe 

1447
01:32:27,480 --> 01:32:29,240
improve your playoff odds a 
little bit. 

1448
01:32:31,520 --> 01:32:34,640
I, I don't know my, my Spidey 
senses are tingling. 

1449
01:32:34,640 --> 01:32:39,360
I do think the Brian Thomas 
injury definitely adds to the, 

1450
01:32:39,560 --> 01:32:41,880
you know, like you said, it's a,
it's a catalyst for the trade as

1451
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:45,000
well. 
So maybe it's not quite as scary

1452
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:49,600
for Travis Hunter having like a 
longer term injury, but just 

1453
01:32:49,600 --> 01:32:53,440
thought it was worth noting. 
The last guy I had on this chart

1454
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:56,160
was also trade related and 
that's Crystal Labe. 

1455
01:32:56,160 --> 01:32:58,480
We talked about pretty much 
everyone else and how they were 

1456
01:32:58,480 --> 01:33:01,320
affected by that trade, but we 
haven't talked about Crystal 

1457
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:05,160
Labe yet. 
Can he even, can he handle any 

1458
01:33:05,160 --> 01:33:08,280
more targets and can can they 
even target him more? 

1459
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:10,360
What do you think about him 
going forward? 

1460
01:33:13,480 --> 01:33:16,880
So yeah, he was obviously a big 
target magnet. 

1461
01:33:17,080 --> 01:33:21,840
So just looking at last week, he
was actually pretty quiet last 

1462
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:25,000
week at 13% targets for 
everyone. 

1463
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:31,480
And Brandon Cooks had a decent 
target spurt run. 

1464
01:33:31,480 --> 01:33:35,080
Brandon Cooks had three targets 
would end up being an 18% target

1465
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:40,760
spurt run. 
I I guess I do wonder if if 

1466
01:33:40,760 --> 01:33:44,280
Brandon Cooks is the ultimate 
beneficiary of that of the 

1467
01:33:44,280 --> 01:33:48,200
trade. 
You probably, I, I guess what, 

1468
01:33:48,200 --> 01:33:53,000
what you'd say is that the old 
Ave. week to week floor on 

1469
01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:56,840
targets goes up where you 
probably don't get too many 

1470
01:33:57,160 --> 01:34:01,880
weeks where alave only gets 3 
targets in a game. 

1471
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,440
You still get the 12 weeks that 
he was getting before. 

1472
01:34:08,440 --> 01:34:12,600
Maybe that's like 12 or 1514. 
And probably the big difference 

1473
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:17,600
there is that, like I said, you 
don't get too many games where 

1474
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:22,640
he's he's, he's below 5 targets.
And Brandon Cox is to me, I 

1475
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:26,360
guess to me he's probably the 
biggest direct beneficiary of 

1476
01:34:26,360 --> 01:34:29,560
where like almost by like 
process of elimination, they, 

1477
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:31,760
they have to get him more 
involved now. 

1478
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,160
You don't. 
You don't think this is the 

1479
01:34:36,440 --> 01:34:41,400
cracked window that Devon Bailey
needed to to get his opportunity

1480
01:34:41,400 --> 01:34:44,320
goes? 
Hayden Winks had this where like

1481
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:49,680
if you net out them trading 
that, so they, they traded 1/5 

1482
01:34:49,680 --> 01:34:54,800
and 1/7 to get at or was yeah, 
it was, no, it was like a, they 

1483
01:34:54,800 --> 01:35:00,400
traded a, a seventh round pick 
to get Valet and then they 

1484
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:05,280
traded Shahid for 1/5. 
And so like if you net them out,

1485
01:35:05,800 --> 01:35:10,320
it's like you, you went from 
Shahid to valet by going from a 

1486
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,600
seventh round pick to a fifth 
round pick and say what, what 

1487
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:15,360
are what? 
Like what are these guys doing? 

1488
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:22,120
Yeah, not, not great there. 
So was Valet even playing 

1489
01:35:22,120 --> 01:35:24,400
before? 
Like I don't think he's getting 

1490
01:35:24,400 --> 01:35:27,600
targeted, but let me let me look
up his snaps. 

1491
01:35:29,400 --> 01:35:35,000
Let's see. 
Yvonne Valet So he was playing 

1492
01:35:35,000 --> 01:35:38,720
mostly special teams, so I guess
he had 12. 

1493
01:35:38,720 --> 01:35:41,160
Snaps. 
He got 1212 snaps at receiver. 

1494
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:46,080
Although to be 37 we. 
Ate Yeah, he had 37. 

1495
01:35:50,760 --> 01:35:52,080
And let me see how that 
compares. 

1496
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:57,800
I had five targets in Week 8. 
Yeah, didn't do it. 

1497
01:35:57,960 --> 01:36:00,320
Yeah, I guess. 
I guess that that does have the 

1498
01:36:00,320 --> 01:36:03,640
door open for valet. 
I do, I do legitimately think 

1499
01:36:03,640 --> 01:36:06,720
it's door open for valet, but I 
also legitimately think it does 

1500
01:36:06,720 --> 01:36:08,640
not matter. 
Right. 

1501
01:36:08,640 --> 01:36:14,240
Yeah, yeah, yeah, basically. 
Basically, OK, Anyone else on 

1502
01:36:14,240 --> 01:36:16,240
this chart that you wanted to 
talk about or should we move on 

1503
01:36:16,240 --> 01:36:23,840
to the next one? 
And looking through this here 

1504
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:33,640
now, now I think with the shihi 
to the Seahawks, it it makes 

1505
01:36:33,640 --> 01:36:36,720
sense to touch on Cooper Cup 
where if you're if you're 

1506
01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,800
holding out hope for Cooper Cup,
anything from Cooper Cup this 

1507
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:42,760
year, you you no longer should 
like. 

1508
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,560
No, Yeah, yeah, that's. 
I think. 

1509
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:49,920
I think the the the light was 
off anyway, but that that should

1510
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:51,720
be even more opponently clear 
now. 

1511
01:36:52,080 --> 01:36:56,840
Yeah, the ship has sailed. 
Yeah. 

1512
01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,120
So then moving on to our next 
chart. 

1513
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:03,080
And so Rashi has graduated. 
So now we have the same chart 

1514
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:06,880
being broken twice, rather than 
both of our charts being broken.

1515
01:37:07,800 --> 01:37:13,280
Yeah, Rashi and Puka just living
up there as the elite weighted 

1516
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:17,000
targets per route run guys that 
also are smashing in in 

1517
01:37:17,000 --> 01:37:20,880
production. 
We we talked about Brian Thomas 

1518
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,840
a little bit on the last chart, 
but he's he's here on this 

1519
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:26,520
chart, you know, sitting right 
around 60% weighted targets for 

1520
01:37:26,520 --> 01:37:28,280
route run. 
Pretty close to Troy Franklin, 

1521
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:33,640
Christian Watson actually. 
But I think your insight about 

1522
01:37:33,640 --> 01:37:37,400
him being banged up as a 
catalyst for the Myers trade is 

1523
01:37:37,400 --> 01:37:40,560
good. 
I'm wondering, do you think this

1524
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:45,560
is like a buy low opportunity 
for him because like maybe it's 

1525
01:37:46,400 --> 01:37:49,080
maybe you finally get the the 
discount on the name brand. 

1526
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:52,440
I mean, he's still like he still
should be. 

1527
01:37:52,440 --> 01:37:54,640
He's. 
Probably probably a good buy low

1528
01:37:54,640 --> 01:38:03,320
for dynasty and and I don't know
if it's a good buy low for this 

1529
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:04,640
season. 
You don't. 

1530
01:38:04,640 --> 01:38:07,520
Think you could come on down the
road for playoffs or? 

1531
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:13,480
I, I guess maybe maybe it was 
just like, it's like an 

1532
01:38:13,480 --> 01:38:17,720
unreported shoulder injury that 
he's obviously not having 

1533
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:21,600
surgery on. 
We don't know what the, the 

1534
01:38:21,600 --> 01:38:24,440
prognosis is. 
So there probably is some 

1535
01:38:24,440 --> 01:38:28,200
probability that that improves 
as as the year goes on, but we 

1536
01:38:28,400 --> 01:38:31,520
we don't like, am I wrong here? 
There's no reporting on it. 

1537
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,760
It's like an unreported injury. 
Basically, yeah, which seems 

1538
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:37,080
weird. 
I feel like you, you kind of are

1539
01:38:37,080 --> 01:38:39,440
supposed to report that as an 
NFL team. 

1540
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:45,160
But but you you get your first 
your first game without Travis 

1541
01:38:45,160 --> 01:38:51,840
Hunter and you see opportunity 
open for Brian Thomas now, but 

1542
01:38:52,320 --> 01:39:00,120
he is so he gets 5 targets the 
same as Travis Etienne and 

1543
01:39:00,200 --> 01:39:03,600
Parker Washington gets 9. 
Diani Brown gets 7. 

1544
01:39:04,280 --> 01:39:10,840
So like join at the target at #3
and 4 Brian Thomas with Travis 

1545
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,240
CTN. 
So like you, you think he's the 

1546
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:16,960
one to step up here and it's 
it's Parker Washington and Diani

1547
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:21,800
Brown who are getting The Who 
are getting the looks so like. 

1548
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:26,080
So not not really. 
Not your cup of tea for a buy 

1549
01:39:26,080 --> 01:39:29,840
low here. 
Yeah, and I mean like, so you 

1550
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:32,360
see that and like, oh, I get why
they're trading for a receiver 

1551
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:36,640
now. 
Yeah, OK. 

1552
01:39:36,640 --> 01:39:40,240
The next guy who is on a 
downward trajectory. 

1553
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:46,120
So Keenan Allen has had his two 
lowest route rates the past two 

1554
01:39:46,120 --> 01:39:48,920
weeks. 
He runs 17 routes and 21 routes 

1555
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:51,120
the last two games, two lowest 
of the season. 

1556
01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,560
And I, we, we talked about this 
before and said, oh, it's 

1557
01:39:55,560 --> 01:39:59,040
because they're running heavy 
personnel with Gadsden and 

1558
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:02,760
that's what's happening. 
It's actually not just Gadsden 

1559
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:04,640
that is taking him off the 
field. 

1560
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:08,680
He's actually losing the snaps 
to Trey Harris because there's 

1561
01:40:08,680 --> 01:40:10,880
still a wide receiver on the 
field there. 

1562
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:14,480
It's just Trey Harris is coming 
in instead of Keenan Allen on 

1563
01:40:14,480 --> 01:40:17,440
those plays. 
I, I do think that they like 

1564
01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:20,480
Trey Harris as a blocker. 
So it's, you know. 

1565
01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:23,200
Now Trey Harris is running 
routes as well. 

1566
01:40:23,200 --> 01:40:25,080
It's not like he's only out 
there to block. 

1567
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:29,000
So Keenan is definitely losing 
some snaps that could otherwise 

1568
01:40:29,000 --> 01:40:34,040
be valuable to him. 
I just for me, it is it is a 

1569
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:37,080
little bit of a red flag for 
Keenan where it's like, hey, the

1570
01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:41,920
guy who's like 33 years old and 
his routes continue to decline. 

1571
01:40:41,960 --> 01:40:45,360
And you know, you have Gadsden 
already emerged. 

1572
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,440
And then Trey Harris is now 
nipping at his heels too. 

1573
01:40:48,440 --> 01:40:51,640
Like so just bad vibes for me 
down the stretch. 

1574
01:40:52,440 --> 01:40:55,680
I mean, if you took Keenan Allen
in basketball, you're like, 

1575
01:40:55,680 --> 01:40:57,880
cool, I already I'm playing with
house money here. 

1576
01:40:57,880 --> 01:41:00,880
So like if Keenan does nothing 
for the rest of the season, it's

1577
01:41:00,880 --> 01:41:02,560
whatever. 
He gave me some useful weeks 

1578
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,280
early and now he can sail off 
into the sunset. 

1579
01:41:06,280 --> 01:41:12,000
But like in a, in a season long 
league, like you're now to the 

1580
01:41:12,000 --> 01:41:15,640
point where I think last week I 
was at the point where it was 

1581
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,840
clearly Ladd Mcconkey. 
You know, a couple weeks back we

1582
01:41:18,840 --> 01:41:21,400
said just treat all the charges 
receivers as the same. 

1583
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:24,760
Then we said, OK lad, Mcconkey's
the one now. 

1584
01:41:24,760 --> 01:41:26,600
And then it's Keenan Allen and 
now it's QJ. 

1585
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:30,240
And now I think I'm getting to 
the point where it's like, it's 

1586
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:32,520
probably QJ over Keenan Allen 
now. 

1587
01:41:33,280 --> 01:41:34,840
Or at the very least, they're 
like. 

1588
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,280
Yeah, Yeah. 
No, that makes sense. 

1589
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,120
It makes sense. 
It makes sense to to get 

1590
01:41:40,120 --> 01:41:44,920
increased, not scrutiny, 
suspicious. 

1591
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:46,960
That's not the right word 
either. 

1592
01:41:47,880 --> 01:41:53,000
Critical of that situation where
there was a pretty clear 

1593
01:41:53,000 --> 01:41:58,560
explanation for Keenan Allen's 
lower snap count in week 8, 

1594
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:02,720
which is they got they played a 
lot more with the full back. 

1595
01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:05,520
They played a second tight end a
lot more. 

1596
01:42:06,160 --> 01:42:11,240
And if you remember, my point 
last week was that even though 

1597
01:42:11,240 --> 01:42:16,640
Trey Harris was up to 32% of 
routes, that's kind of been been

1598
01:42:16,640 --> 01:42:19,280
where he's he's been at the last
couple weeks. 

1599
01:42:19,960 --> 01:42:25,120
Like Trey Harris was at 34% in 
week 7 when Keenan Island got 

1600
01:42:25,120 --> 01:42:32,520
75%. 
But so like Trey Harris still at

1601
01:42:32,520 --> 01:42:38,120
36% routes, there's not some 
kind of clear catalyst for them 

1602
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:41,480
using different personnel 
packages or whatever. 

1603
01:42:41,680 --> 01:42:43,280
They're just playing Keenan 
Allen less. 

1604
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:50,360
So you, you get that kind of 
like close to 50% route share 

1605
01:42:51,040 --> 01:42:54,560
two weeks in a row. 
You suspicious, I guess that 

1606
01:42:54,560 --> 01:42:57,840
that's the word. 
Your, your suspicion is even 

1607
01:42:57,840 --> 01:43:02,280
lower that it you've, you've 
kind of identified A trend here.

1608
01:43:02,280 --> 01:43:04,840
It's not just a one off blip. 
There's no, there's not really a

1609
01:43:04,840 --> 01:43:09,200
clear explanation for it. 
He probably is just a 50% route 

1610
01:43:09,200 --> 01:43:11,560
share guy. 
I see he he's still got 4 

1611
01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,760
targets. 
Yeah, he's, he's targeted. 

1612
01:43:16,680 --> 01:43:18,360
He earns targets when he's out 
there. 

1613
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:22,200
He's just not out there as much.
So like your real risk for 

1614
01:43:22,200 --> 01:43:24,920
Keenan Allen, you know, if if 
you want to talk about like 

1615
01:43:24,920 --> 01:43:28,040
how's he going to shape up on 
this chart going forward? 

1616
01:43:28,160 --> 01:43:31,320
Like your real concern for 
Keenan Allen is he's going to 

1617
01:43:31,320 --> 01:43:35,920
get demoted to the 40 to 70% 
chart and he's probably, 

1618
01:43:36,360 --> 01:43:38,920
probably has an awesome weighted
targets per route run still 

1619
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:41,200
where it's like, yeah, when he's
out there, we throw it at him. 

1620
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:42,320
We just don't. 
Right. 

1621
01:43:42,320 --> 01:43:47,360
You've probably got a three to 
four target per game floor there

1622
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,600
because they they still want to 
throw to him. 

1623
01:43:50,080 --> 01:43:56,760
But when they when they're like 
let's say week 5 when they had 9

1624
01:43:56,760 --> 01:44:05,240
targets, week 4 we had 7, he 
he's going to have to get out 

1625
01:44:05,240 --> 01:44:08,920
more to a weak tree winning at 
10 targets. 

1626
01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:10,680
You're not saying that right 
now. 

1627
01:44:11,520 --> 01:44:14,840
And we're pretty suspicious that
that's not happening again. 

1628
01:44:15,680 --> 01:44:20,160
So I've got a question for you. 
I think a week ago we got a 

1629
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:22,840
comment that said more playoff 
best ball talk. 

1630
01:44:22,840 --> 01:44:26,160
So here it is for the people. 
You're drafting playoff 

1631
01:44:26,160 --> 01:44:29,120
basketball teams and you've got 
a Charger stack and you're 

1632
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:31,000
playing Chargers to the Super 
Bowl. 

1633
01:44:31,000 --> 01:44:35,600
Baby, you're on the turn. 
You're, you're on the the 7-8 

1634
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,680
turn here and you've got a 
decision to make. 

1635
01:44:38,760 --> 01:44:42,960
You can only take one of them. 
Do you want Keenan Allen or do 

1636
01:44:42,960 --> 01:44:48,440
you want a Rhonda Gadsden? 
Oh God, they both filled the WT 

1637
01:44:48,440 --> 01:44:50,800
position on underdog. 
So they they filled the same. 

1638
01:44:50,800 --> 01:44:52,640
Boxer spot. 
They're they're direct 

1639
01:44:52,640 --> 01:44:54,960
comparables, but you want 
Gadsden all day long. 

1640
01:44:55,960 --> 01:45:01,760
You do I, I agree. 
All right. 

1641
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:07,720
Pretty pretty clear cut. 
The the last guy I had a note 

1642
01:45:07,720 --> 01:45:09,480
on. 
We've talked about him already. 

1643
01:45:12,160 --> 01:45:14,000
Oh. 
Sorry, I thought, I thought we 

1644
01:45:14,000 --> 01:45:16,160
were going to go on that 
decision all the way down to 

1645
01:45:16,160 --> 01:45:19,880
Trey Harris and I was going to 
pick QJ over him and then I was 

1646
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:23,040
going to pick king of that one 
over Trey Harris in case anyone 

1647
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:26,640
was curious how that that that 
progression was going to go. 

1648
01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:28,640
I I think we're in lock step on 
that. 

1649
01:45:30,360 --> 01:45:33,000
All right, last guy on this 
chart, we talked about this 

1650
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:40,120
situation a lot, but Rashid 
Shahid moving to the Seahawks, I

1651
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:44,280
mean, I've gone back and forth 
on this on if it's actually a 

1652
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,240
positive for him or not because 
you just get an absolute target 

1653
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:53,240
hog in JSN there, but you are 
getting a much more efficient 

1654
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:54,600
offense. 
Do you think this is a net 

1655
01:45:54,600 --> 01:45:57,320
positive for Sheed or is it, is 
it net neutral? 

1656
01:45:57,320 --> 01:46:01,120
But you know, you just change 
the way the the dials are dialed

1657
01:46:01,120 --> 01:46:03,520
or what is it for Shaheed going 
forward? 

1658
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:12,800
So I think that overall it's a 
positive because like you, you 

1659
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:16,920
get out from underneath the Tom 
the yoke of Tyler Shuck. 

1660
01:46:18,480 --> 01:46:22,200
I think getting away from Tyler 
Shook is is only positive. 

1661
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:28,360
And I guess you go from target 
magnet of Crystal Levy to target

1662
01:46:28,360 --> 01:46:34,000
magnet of JSN. 
You have Sam Darnold playing out

1663
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:37,440
of his mind, out of his fucking 
mind. 

1664
01:46:38,800 --> 01:46:43,640
You have a kind of like a guy 
who tribes on deep passes gone, 

1665
01:46:43,800 --> 01:46:46,280
getting paired up with a 
quarterback showing pretty good 

1666
01:46:46,280 --> 01:46:50,200
deep passes. 
I think it's pretty positive for

1667
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:57,360
Shaheed where it's where it's 
less clear is, and this is where

1668
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:58,520
we're going to go back and 
forth. 

1669
01:46:58,520 --> 01:47:02,880
I was like, I guess does it 
damage and Tori Horton and how 

1670
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:06,880
much does it damage Tori Horton?
Where I was kind of thinking 

1671
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:12,760
like the logical way for me to 
do this would be that you play 

1672
01:47:12,760 --> 01:47:16,760
Tori Horton and Shaheed on the 
outside and then you let JSN 

1673
01:47:16,760 --> 01:47:22,720
feast on there on the slot. 
And obviously Tori Horton, he 

1674
01:47:22,720 --> 01:47:24,800
probably only plays in three 
personnel. 

1675
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:28,400
It's going to be a JSN and 
Shaheed, the two wide receiver 

1676
01:47:28,400 --> 01:47:33,520
sets and and and Cooper cups 
sometimes in 4 receiver sets. 

1677
01:47:34,080 --> 01:47:37,640
Like to me that that's like the 
way that wouldn't make sense, 

1678
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:41,240
but that's probably a little bit
idealistic. 

1679
01:47:41,760 --> 01:47:45,080
My joke was that like, hey, I'm 
nowhere near dumb enough to be 

1680
01:47:45,080 --> 01:47:50,240
an NFL decision maker and these 
guys have a have like Galaxy 

1681
01:47:50,240 --> 01:47:52,440
brain, not dumbness that I can't
even fathom. 

1682
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:57,760
And what are they paying? 
Like cook like 50 million a year

1683
01:47:57,760 --> 01:48:02,000
or something crazy. 
And like he probably like he's a

1684
01:48:02,000 --> 01:48:03,760
vet. 
He sounds like a vet. 

1685
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,560
He talks about the preparation. 
He probably does all these 

1686
01:48:07,560 --> 01:48:11,280
little things right. 
And it probably is actually very

1687
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:16,680
hard when push comes to shove to
actually take a guy like Cooper 

1688
01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:23,440
Cook off the fields. 
So I like, I'm still holding out

1689
01:48:23,440 --> 01:48:31,800
hope that Tory Horton, his 83% 
route share is, is going to hold

1690
01:48:31,800 --> 01:48:35,680
up decently, but it probably is 
idealistic. 

1691
01:48:36,760 --> 01:48:40,600
Yeah, I think the way I where I 
land on it is this is definitely

1692
01:48:40,600 --> 01:48:44,360
worse for Tori Horton than 
Cooper Cupp, but it's it's 

1693
01:48:44,360 --> 01:48:47,280
partially because it was already
bad for Cooper. 

1694
01:48:47,360 --> 01:48:51,720
You know, like it can't you 
know, Cooper cup was already 

1695
01:48:52,200 --> 01:48:54,520
dead and what what is dead may 
never die. 

1696
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:57,800
Like he he already was gonna 
he's gonna lose the work to Tori

1697
01:48:57,800 --> 01:49:02,160
Horton or he's gonna lose it to 
Sheed like, but the the 

1698
01:49:02,160 --> 01:49:06,160
unfortunate truth is Cooper Cup 
will remain involved regardless 

1699
01:49:06,160 --> 01:49:11,040
of how washed he is. 
You know, he he's going to still

1700
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,200
be getting snaps. 
They'll probably go down 

1701
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:16,440
substantially. 
But what you're left with is 

1702
01:49:16,440 --> 01:49:20,640
just a smaller pie for Tori 
Horton to get a slice of because

1703
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:23,880
Shaheed is is here now to take 
a, a, a slice of it. 

1704
01:49:23,880 --> 01:49:28,240
So that's the the unfortunate 
truth for Tori Horton kind of 

1705
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,240
get the breakout stifled. 
Really. 

1706
01:49:30,880 --> 01:49:33,480
You know, Torry Horton blue 
balls here, unfortunately, 

1707
01:49:33,480 --> 01:49:39,480
because he was he's pretty fun. 
But I mean, it's pretty exciting

1708
01:49:39,480 --> 01:49:41,880
for the Seahawks man, just from 
like a real football 

1709
01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:44,520
perspective. 
And and I mean, you want to talk

1710
01:49:44,520 --> 01:49:48,760
about fun playoff best ball. 
Oh, baby, give me like last 

1711
01:49:48,760 --> 01:49:51,240
round Torry Horton. 
You'd probably get some like 

1712
01:49:51,440 --> 01:49:56,640
8th, 9th round Rashid Shaheed 
too, Like that's some that's a 

1713
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:59,800
fun team. 
And and the the problem with 

1714
01:49:59,800 --> 01:50:02,520
them is their running backs kind
of stink for fantasy. 

1715
01:50:03,440 --> 01:50:05,760
Like they're just not massive 
producers. 

1716
01:50:06,200 --> 01:50:09,280
So they are, they're definitely 
one where I'm looking at like, 

1717
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:14,000
gosh, I can just get, you know, 
I get JSN early and then I'm 

1718
01:50:14,000 --> 01:50:18,160
getting like Sam Darnold and you
know, Horton and Shaheed as my, 

1719
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,560
my final three picks are 
Seahawks. 

1720
01:50:20,560 --> 01:50:24,600
I can I can build the whole 
Seahawks bet just by taking JSN.

1721
01:50:25,280 --> 01:50:28,240
I mean shit, you probably can 
get whichever running back like 

1722
01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:29,800
your literal. 
Last four days you're probably 

1723
01:50:30,040 --> 01:50:31,880
going to get pretty good prices 
on them. 

1724
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,720
So it's basically a week. 
To week ceiling is probably 

1725
01:50:34,720 --> 01:50:38,040
pretty good too. 
Yeah, the more I think about 

1726
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:42,760
this, it's like you just take 
JSN and then your last four 

1727
01:50:42,760 --> 01:50:44,600
picks or just whatever Seahawks 
are there. 

1728
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:48,040
You know, like I don't even care
if I have to take an Elijah or 

1729
01:50:48,120 --> 01:50:49,960
if I'm doing Seahawks to the 
Super Bowl. 

1730
01:50:50,480 --> 01:50:53,360
Like you're telling me like, uh 
oh, dude, you missed out on 

1731
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:55,600
Rasheed Shaheed on this team. 
It's like, great. 

1732
01:50:55,640 --> 01:50:58,920
I don't want 100% of my Seahawks
teams to be Rasheed Shaheed. 

1733
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,840
I'll gladly take an Elijah 
Arroyo or AJ Barner team, you 

1734
01:51:02,840 --> 01:51:04,680
know, right. 
I mean, God forbid I might even 

1735
01:51:04,680 --> 01:51:07,680
take Cooper Cup team, you know, 
depending on how how the rest of

1736
01:51:07,680 --> 01:51:11,560
the season shakes out for him. 
But like, yeah, I I think 

1737
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:13,400
Seahawks are definitely a pretty
fun one. 

1738
01:51:13,400 --> 01:51:17,280
Where the other one that I think
probably shakes out in a similar

1739
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:20,600
way where it's just all cheap 
guys you just can totally 

1740
01:51:20,720 --> 01:51:23,600
backfill like your last four 
picks of the draft can all be 

1741
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,120
the same team. 
That's a a pretty high, you 

1742
01:51:26,120 --> 01:51:28,560
know, playoff probability and 
conference championship 

1743
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:33,240
probability team is the Packers.
You know, Packers get a little 

1744
01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:38,280
they're they're like a little 
less fun after after losing to 

1745
01:51:38,480 --> 01:51:43,120
the Panthers, but you probably 
just get, you know, all Packers 

1746
01:51:43,120 --> 01:51:45,760
receivers and Jordan Love in the
last four rounds. 

1747
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,800
All right, that's plenty of 
playoff basketball talk off of 

1748
01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:55,440
the Torrey Horton tangent. 
The other notes I had here, 

1749
01:51:55,560 --> 01:52:00,360
Xavier Worthy, not great, not 
not super great. 

1750
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:06,600
He's just like pretty squarely. 
I mean, if you look at his his 

1751
01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:11,160
chart neighbors here like that 
kind of do be what he is like. 

1752
01:52:11,680 --> 01:52:16,520
He kind of is like a, you know, 
he he's souped up Hollywood 

1753
01:52:16,520 --> 01:52:18,800
Brown. 
He's like fancy Hollywood Brown 

1754
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:20,600
on the Chiefs. 
He's getting more targets for 

1755
01:52:20,600 --> 01:52:22,360
sure. 
You know, he'll score more 

1756
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:23,920
points than Hollywood Brown for 
sure. 

1757
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:27,520
But like, I mean, Taekwon 
Thornton is there. 

1758
01:52:27,520 --> 01:52:33,080
Hollywood Brown is there. 
You get Steph Diggs who's who's 

1759
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:37,960
not on the field as much. 
But yeah, I, I don't know, man, 

1760
01:52:38,000 --> 01:52:42,000
it feels, it feels not super 
exciting for Worthy going 

1761
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:46,600
forward. 
I, I think my, my offseason take

1762
01:52:47,080 --> 01:52:50,520
was that Xavier Worthy. 
You were just drafting fancy 

1763
01:52:50,520 --> 01:52:52,480
Rashid Shaheed in the third 
round. 

1764
01:52:53,520 --> 01:52:56,320
That's that's aging like fine 
wine right now. 

1765
01:52:57,960 --> 01:53:02,720
Yeah, but well, especially with 
Shaheed now getting getting a 

1766
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:12,200
much better team situation. 
Yeah, it's, it's I think when I 

1767
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:18,520
when I think about wordy, I 
think about what we liked about 

1768
01:53:18,520 --> 01:53:24,000
his his profile so much where he
had the phenomenal freshman 

1769
01:53:24,000 --> 01:53:27,400
season. 
And then I, I, I this, I guess 

1770
01:53:27,400 --> 01:53:32,160
this is this is a tangent, but 
I, I just wonder if the guy with

1771
01:53:32,160 --> 01:53:37,560
the blazing 40 time having the 
great freshman season and then 

1772
01:53:37,560 --> 01:53:41,160
being quiet for the rest of his 
college career, maybe that's not

1773
01:53:41,200 --> 01:53:44,800
as good a profile as as we would
have taught before. 

1774
01:53:45,120 --> 01:53:48,760
Because like it reminds me a 
little bit of Rondell Muir, who 

1775
01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:53,640
had the blazing 40 on their 
sized, had the great freshman 

1776
01:53:53,640 --> 01:53:55,760
year and then pretty quiet 
otherwise. 

1777
01:53:56,360 --> 01:54:01,560
And I'm like, well, maybe, maybe
the freshman great start for the

1778
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:04,120
trailblazing speed guys. 
Maybe that's not as good a 

1779
01:54:04,120 --> 01:54:09,400
signal as as we want because 
like you're kind of you're 

1780
01:54:09,400 --> 01:54:14,320
almost double counting that like
the great 40 time means they get

1781
01:54:14,320 --> 01:54:18,520
off with a great freshman start.
But you you kind of need 

1782
01:54:18,520 --> 01:54:22,560
sustained production in college 
to to really fall in love with 

1783
01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:26,520
the profile. 
Man, I made the Xavier Worthy 

1784
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:28,480
note because I thought I was 
going to have fun shitting on 

1785
01:54:28,480 --> 01:54:32,000
Xavier Worthy, and then you go 
and compare him to Rondale Moore

1786
01:54:32,000 --> 01:54:33,960
and now I'm just really sad. 
So. 

1787
01:54:35,000 --> 01:54:37,400
Obviously like you're, you're 
getting a much better outcome 

1788
01:54:37,760 --> 01:54:40,640
than that Rondell Moore but. 
I know I'm just, I'm sad that 

1789
01:54:40,640 --> 01:54:44,360
Rondell Moore busted and and and
sad about Zakir Worthy, but 

1790
01:54:44,640 --> 01:54:45,800
yeah. 
Yeah, I know. 

1791
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:49,000
Like it. 
It's not like this is a pretty, 

1792
01:54:49,000 --> 01:54:54,200
this is a pretty decent year for
overall. 

1793
01:54:55,240 --> 01:54:59,720
It just it's not what you want 
it to be like. 

1794
01:54:59,920 --> 01:55:05,800
No, like you get 23 yards and 
seven targets from that, you get

1795
01:55:05,880 --> 01:55:10,800
124 air yards. 
So like it it definitely like 

1796
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:13,320
this game could have hit in a 
much bigger way for Wordy. 

1797
01:55:14,280 --> 01:55:17,240
And it's it's kind of Jameson. 
Like the idea of like this is 

1798
01:55:17,280 --> 01:55:21,320
potentially, yeah, the idea that
this is one of the best 

1799
01:55:21,320 --> 01:55:23,760
receivers, potentially one of 
the best receivers in the NFL. 

1800
01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:27,280
Like we've we've kind of seen, 
we've seen. 

1801
01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:30,840
I don't see the the book is 
written but. 

1802
01:55:31,560 --> 01:55:36,280
Yeah, that's that's certainly 
that's not that's not the thing.

1803
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:38,800
He's not he's not one of the 
best receivers in the NFL. 

1804
01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:43,600
But and also I I want to retract
my it's Jameson Williams coded. 

1805
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,040
He gets way more targets than 
Jameson Williams. 

1806
01:55:46,040 --> 01:55:47,640
That's not fair to Xavier 
Worthy. 

1807
01:55:47,680 --> 01:55:49,280
He's way more involved than 
that. 

1808
01:55:50,360 --> 01:55:53,240
But the production is a little 
he's like Jameson Williams with 

1809
01:55:53,240 --> 01:55:57,480
a slightly better floor where 
like, he's not exclusively deep 

1810
01:55:57,480 --> 01:55:59,960
balls. 
You know, Rice coming back 

1811
01:55:59,960 --> 01:56:03,600
definitely hurts them on that 
front where so much of the 

1812
01:56:03,600 --> 01:56:07,680
manufactured and short stuff is 
just getting gobbled up by Rice.

1813
01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:13,000
But yeah, he's he's like higher 
floor in Jameson Williams. 

1814
01:56:13,200 --> 01:56:15,840
We'll we'll get ceiling games 
from Xavier Worthy. 

1815
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:19,440
He's gonna you know, Hollywood 
Brown is not the only one that 

1816
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:21,160
can catch deep balls from 
Mahomes. 

1817
01:56:21,600 --> 01:56:25,120
You know, although that's how 
it's been over the last couple 

1818
01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:26,800
weeks. 
Like Savior Worthy is in fact 

1819
01:56:26,800 --> 01:56:28,440
allowed to connect on deep 
shots. 

1820
01:56:28,440 --> 01:56:30,240
Like you will get right. 
You're gonna get those games 

1821
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:33,680
where he does connect for sure. 
But yeah, it's it's been been 

1822
01:56:33,680 --> 01:56:39,480
disappointing so far. 
All right, the other notes I 

1823
01:56:39,480 --> 01:56:43,440
had, I talked about Diggs 
already kind of in a rotation, 

1824
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:45,800
you know, just getting limited 
snaps. 

1825
01:56:45,800 --> 01:56:50,320
Pop Douglas has been pretty good
lately, actually Pop really 

1826
01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:52,280
making the most of his limited 
snaps. 

1827
01:56:52,600 --> 01:56:55,920
Problem is you can literally 
never start pop in a managed 

1828
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:57,720
league. 
He's just he's barely running 

1829
01:56:57,720 --> 01:57:03,200
routes, you know, but when he's 
out there, man, he he do be 

1830
01:57:03,200 --> 01:57:06,920
good. 
But yeah, he's basically, he's 

1831
01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:11,200
just basically like the Steph 
Diggs breathe. 

1832
01:57:11,200 --> 01:57:13,800
Like when Diggs needs to come 
off the field and take a 

1833
01:57:13,800 --> 01:57:16,960
breather like Pop Douglas is, is
the Steph Diggs replacement. 

1834
01:57:16,960 --> 01:57:22,760
So. 
It is kind of wild, like he had 

1835
01:57:22,760 --> 01:57:28,240
it like 7 yards per run. 
Yeah, I mean that that can 

1836
01:57:28,240 --> 01:57:31,040
happen when your quarterback is 
the best deep ball thrower to 

1837
01:57:31,040 --> 01:57:34,720
ever play the game. 
And no, I won't apologize for 

1838
01:57:34,720 --> 01:57:37,240
that take. 
Best game. 

1839
01:57:37,960 --> 01:57:39,760
Because I ever played a game. 
Yeah. 

1840
01:57:41,760 --> 01:57:47,160
So I mean, like, I guess on on 
an alternative perspective, 

1841
01:57:47,720 --> 01:57:51,720
Douglas obviously had the insane
per rat efficiency last game. 

1842
01:57:52,240 --> 01:57:56,640
He's like good, not great. 20% 
Tiger spray run, 2 yards spray 

1843
01:57:56,640 --> 01:58:03,440
run on a 44% right chair. 
Like you certainly see the 

1844
01:58:03,440 --> 01:58:05,280
ceiling. 
We just saw the ceiling. 

1845
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:10,880
But like you said, you there's 
nothing, there's nothing 

1846
01:58:10,880 --> 01:58:13,960
consistent here in which you can
start them. 

1847
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:18,040
And I I don't think it gets. 
Solid per rounds. 

1848
01:58:18,800 --> 01:58:21,840
I, I don't really think it gets 
that much better for him even 

1849
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:25,680
with the booty injury. 
He's not, he's not doing the 

1850
01:58:25,680 --> 01:58:28,160
booty stuff, he's doing the dig 
stuff. 

1851
01:58:28,160 --> 01:58:31,160
Like he probably gets some more 
snaps with booty out, but it's 

1852
01:58:31,160 --> 01:58:35,280
not like you don't just get to 1
to 1, lift him and be like, now 

1853
01:58:35,280 --> 01:58:37,440
you get the booty snaps. 
Like that's just not what 

1854
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:41,440
they'll do. 
If anything, I think Mac Hollins

1855
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:45,720
is the biggest beneficiary of 
the Keishon booty injury and and

1856
01:58:45,720 --> 01:58:48,000
it sounds like the booty injury 
is a pretty mild hamstring. 

1857
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:52,000
Interests you in Kyle Williams 
seeing a 50% route share. 

1858
01:58:52,320 --> 01:58:54,360
I did see Kyle Williams ransom 
routes. 

1859
01:58:55,360 --> 01:58:58,680
So when did the did the booty 
injury happen early in the? 

1860
01:58:58,680 --> 01:58:59,720
Game. 
Yeah, yeah. 

1861
01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:06,280
OK, so like Kyle Williams, 
clearly a a beneficiary, but not

1862
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:10,520
not he's not he's not suddenly a
Sergeant now he plays, but he's 

1863
01:59:10,520 --> 01:59:13,720
not a player. 
The the window is open for him 

1864
01:59:13,720 --> 01:59:20,480
to get a morsel of opportunity. 
So if if he can play you, you 

1865
01:59:20,480 --> 01:59:22,200
got to play better than Mack 
Hollins. 

1866
01:59:22,200 --> 01:59:24,160
That's the bar. 
You got to go out there and show

1867
01:59:24,160 --> 01:59:26,080
your stuff and show you're 
better than Mack Hollins. 

1868
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:30,280
But I mean, right, Mack? 
Collins only 50% red share as 

1869
01:59:30,280 --> 01:59:34,880
well in Week 9. 
I I don't know if the people 

1870
01:59:34,880 --> 01:59:36,880
want to hear this trick, but I 
think Mack Holland's a pretty 

1871
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:38,280
good playoff basketball pick 
too. 

1872
01:59:42,200 --> 01:59:47,080
Ever Evergreen content? 
I mean, if you're playing 

1873
01:59:47,080 --> 01:59:50,960
Patriots, who by the way, are 
are, you know, 20% chance to 

1874
01:59:50,960 --> 01:59:54,240
make the conference championship
at this moment, which is pretty 

1875
01:59:54,240 --> 01:59:57,200
good, basically like 10% chance 
to make the Super Bowl. 

1876
01:59:57,240 --> 01:59:59,560
If you think about it, it's kind
of kind of cool. 

1877
02:00:01,240 --> 02:00:03,920
But yeah, I mean, if you're 
playing a Patriots to the Super 

1878
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:07,000
Bowl build, Mack, you could do 
worse than Mack Collins, you 

1879
02:00:07,000 --> 02:00:13,400
know, All right. 
Very last guy I had was Parker 

1880
02:00:13,400 --> 02:00:15,080
Washington. 
We talked about Parker 

1881
02:00:15,080 --> 02:00:18,440
Washington a little bit. 
I mean I I, I. 

1882
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:23,160
I want to take some credit for 
for Parker Washington going in 

1883
02:00:23,160 --> 02:00:26,920
the in the ship chasing ship 
cast parley. 

1884
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:32,000
I, I, I, I I'd like to, I'd like
to believe Pete watched our show

1885
02:00:32,000 --> 02:00:36,600
and said, yeah, I'm putting 
Parker WA in the in the parley 

1886
02:00:36,600 --> 02:00:38,040
here. 
Now I know that's, that's not 

1887
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:42,640
the case, but I know we talked, 
we talked, we talked them up as 

1888
02:00:42,640 --> 02:00:44,240
if like they, they love this 
guy. 

1889
02:00:44,280 --> 02:00:48,600
And then Travis Hunter got 
injured and they, they, they do 

1890
02:00:48,600 --> 02:00:51,080
love the guy. 
Oh yeah, he was I mean, he was a

1891
02:00:51,080 --> 02:00:54,240
great play. 
I do think he's a great sell 

1892
02:00:54,240 --> 02:00:56,600
high candidate here, though. 
If you can get absolutely 

1893
02:00:56,600 --> 02:00:59,240
anything for him, he's probably 
he's definitely not of the 

1894
02:00:59,240 --> 02:01:01,400
caliber where you're like 
setting him one for one for 

1895
02:01:01,400 --> 02:01:04,920
anything meaningful. 
But he's, you know, gotten a ton

1896
02:01:04,920 --> 02:01:06,640
of targets and opportunity 
lately. 

1897
02:01:06,640 --> 02:01:09,480
And then, you know, you have the
Travis Hunter injury. 

1898
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:12,600
So maybe you could throw him in 
a package, you know, as you're 

1899
02:01:12,640 --> 02:01:15,360
as you're approaching trade 
deadlines, sticking in a package

1900
02:01:15,360 --> 02:01:19,680
with a guy, you know, it's just 
something where someone checks 

1901
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:21,760
out his profile. 
They're not super plugged in and

1902
02:01:21,760 --> 02:01:25,480
like, oh, Parker WA 9 targets. 
Oh, wow, you know, like 

1903
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:28,800
something like that. 
He's just like a little deal 

1904
02:01:28,800 --> 02:01:31,920
sweetener. 
But I think he's he's back to a 

1905
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:35,200
pumpkin with Jacoby Myers. 
Like it's it's curtains for for 

1906
02:01:35,200 --> 02:01:43,680
old boy Parker here. 
I, I, I, I don't know, I think, 

1907
02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:48,280
I think their love for Parker 
Washington mind might live on. 

1908
02:01:49,320 --> 02:01:51,600
I mean, for, but for like how 
long, man? 

1909
02:01:51,600 --> 02:01:55,360
Cuz like you're, you're saying 
unless you think that Brian 

1910
02:01:55,360 --> 02:01:59,200
Thomas is like really, really 
injured and, and not going to 

1911
02:01:59,240 --> 02:02:03,280
like, if you're saying, Hey, 
Brian Thomas is effectively out 

1912
02:02:03,320 --> 02:02:07,480
or like maybe he's playing, but 
he's not effective for the same 

1913
02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:10,440
duration that Travis Hunter's 
out, then I'm with you That 

1914
02:02:10,440 --> 02:02:13,160
Parker Washington's still an 
involved part of the off, I 

1915
02:02:13,160 --> 02:02:14,080
guess. 
Once, once. 

1916
02:02:14,440 --> 02:02:17,040
Once Travis Hunter comes back. 
That's probably when it's 

1917
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:20,080
curtains until Travis Hunter 
comes back. 

1918
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:25,280
I think Parker Washington routes
and opportunities will continue 

1919
02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:29,400
until that morale improves. 
OK, that's, I think that's 

1920
02:02:29,400 --> 02:02:31,480
reasonable. 
I think a big part of it comes 

1921
02:02:31,480 --> 02:02:34,040
down to your interpretation of 
the Brian Thomas injury 

1922
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:39,160
timeline, which like I was mega 
Brian Thomas injury bear prior 

1923
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:42,800
to last week and then now he 
adds the ankle. 

1924
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:46,240
So I probably should land a 
little closer to where you are. 

1925
02:02:46,480 --> 02:02:49,520
I just Pat and I had been doing 
playoff basketball ranks. 

1926
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:51,960
So we've been we're looking too 
far into the future. 

1927
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:53,320
You know, we're, we're like 2 
months. 

1928
02:02:53,320 --> 02:02:56,000
From now, yeah, I I see that for
sure. 

1929
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:58,520
I see that Washington's fucking 
dead. 

1930
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,480
The. 
Immediate and maybe that's why 

1931
02:03:01,480 --> 02:03:07,400
it's a sell high because the 
immediate prospects are pretty 

1932
02:03:07,400 --> 02:03:10,160
good. 
But yeah, as you as you get 

1933
02:03:10,160 --> 02:03:15,000
later into the year, it's hard 
to see him being a sustained 

1934
02:03:15,320 --> 02:03:18,600
playoff contributor. 
So, yeah, maybe you, maybe it is

1935
02:03:18,600 --> 02:03:21,400
like it's one more week of 
Parker Washington. 

1936
02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:30,680
Who do the Jags play this week? 
Let's see, they play. 

1937
02:03:30,760 --> 02:03:33,520
Oh, the Texans. 
Oh, no, never mind. 

1938
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:36,280
Yeah, just sell it now. 
Just get get rid of him now. 

1939
02:03:37,960 --> 02:03:41,040
So don't try, don't be greedy. 
Don't try to hold it through the

1940
02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:43,800
Texans game with hopes of good 
production that you can sell. 

1941
02:03:44,440 --> 02:03:47,760
It's yeah. 
Well, I'm I'm saying like with 

1942
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:52,000
the immediate prospects being 
pretty good because like he's 

1943
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:56,440
got the route share, he's got 
the opportunity until these, 

1944
02:03:56,840 --> 02:03:59,560
until Travers Hunter comes back,
now is the time when you'll get 

1945
02:03:59,560 --> 02:04:01,960
the most value for him. 
No, I, I was with you. 

1946
02:04:01,960 --> 02:04:04,200
I was like maybe I can be greedy
and like hold. 

1947
02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:07,080
It one more Oh, you were you 
were taking what I said to like 

1948
02:04:07,120 --> 02:04:09,480
an an extra degree and there 
you're like, OK. 

1949
02:04:09,600 --> 02:04:12,880
Yeah, I I want to, I want to be 
able to Duke the box score 

1950
02:04:12,880 --> 02:04:14,360
bandits. 
You know, the guys in your 

1951
02:04:14,360 --> 02:04:18,080
league were like they, they have
to see it in the box score to be

1952
02:04:18,080 --> 02:04:21,040
able to trade for a player. 
You know, you never in a million

1953
02:04:21,040 --> 02:04:23,800
years could you possibly trade 
for a player that hasn't done it

1954
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:25,880
yet. 
You know, like I I want to I 

1955
02:04:25,880 --> 02:04:30,360
want to be able to sell to those
guys too, but but I don't think 

1956
02:04:30,480 --> 02:04:33,400
I don't think Parker Washington 
is for those players in your 

1957
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:35,200
league. 
You you just go ahead and sell 

1958
02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:40,800
high now if you can. 
All right. 

1959
02:04:40,800 --> 02:04:42,920
I think those are all. 
This week. 

1960
02:04:43,320 --> 02:04:47,760
Yeah, that's that's everybody. 
Well, thank you for joining us. 

1961
02:04:48,480 --> 02:04:50,880
Now we are officially halfway 
through. 

1962
02:04:51,440 --> 02:04:55,120
In fact, we're more than halfway
done with stat chasing, I 

1963
02:04:55,120 --> 02:04:56,920
believe because we're we're 
certainly not going to have a 

1964
02:04:56,920 --> 02:05:01,440
Big 18 stat chasing. 
So greater than 50% in week 17. 

1965
02:05:02,880 --> 02:05:07,720
I don't think we have either I. 
Don't think we've, I don't even 

1966
02:05:07,720 --> 02:05:10,840
know if I think weeks. 
I think week 15 is the latest we

1967
02:05:10,840 --> 02:05:14,800
go because like, we're not doing
on a Christmas either. 

1968
02:05:16,080 --> 02:05:20,160
Yeah, I know in the past we've, 
we've either I've been 

1969
02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:24,360
travelling or, you know, we 
haven't, haven't done a a week 

1970
02:05:24,600 --> 02:05:27,640
16 or or so. 
I'll, I'll, I'll look back here 

1971
02:05:27,640 --> 02:05:31,280
and see what the latest. 
I mean, this is really good 

1972
02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:33,040
podcasting. 
When you're ready to sign off 

1973
02:05:33,040 --> 02:05:34,160
and you're like, what's the 
latest? 

1974
02:05:34,160 --> 02:05:35,280
We've actually done this 
podcast. 

1975
02:05:35,880 --> 02:05:38,200
Right. 
Yeah, we're just, we're just 

1976
02:05:38,360 --> 02:05:40,240
burning. 
We're burning. 

1977
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:42,840
Yeah, like everybody's turning 
off the podcast. 

1978
02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:46,760
So like our, our, our like 
finish ratio is just plummeting.

1979
02:05:48,560 --> 02:05:52,680
Yeah, looks like Week 15, Week 
15 in 2024. 

1980
02:05:52,960 --> 02:05:58,720
You know what we did do a Week 
17 show in in 2023, Probably a 

1981
02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:01,080
I'll conceived one at that. 
I don't, I don't think we're 

1982
02:06:01,080 --> 02:06:04,480
going to be running that back 
this year, but yeah, more than. 

1983
02:06:04,560 --> 02:06:08,000
I would probably like a yeah, a 
year in review type there. 

1984
02:06:08,600 --> 02:06:11,280
I I think that sounds, that 
sounds about right. 

1985
02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:16,400
Maybe we'll do that when, when 
we ship the FFPCBBT. 

1986
02:06:16,440 --> 02:06:18,000
We can. 
We can do a year in review, 

1987
02:06:18,720 --> 02:06:21,080
yeah. 
That sounds sounds good to me. 

1988
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:24,520
All right, see you everybody. 
Thanks for listening and then 

1989
02:06:24,520 --> 02:06:25,360
I'll see you next week.