1 00:00:02,280 --> 00:00:06,760 Hello everyone and welcome to a May 6th edition of ADP Chasing. 2 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:11,160 We've had about a week of drafting since the NFL Draft and 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,640 AD PS are moving all over the place. 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,200 Rookies are still steaming up. Cowboys running backs are 5 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,680 steaming way up the boards. We'll break that all down and 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,880 more. This is ADP chasing. 7 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:27,440 Let's do it. Pat Fryer, Helmo. 8 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:30,440 This is why. This is why I'm hot. 9 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:33,000 Anita. Hand job, fix your sight. 10 00:00:33,120 --> 00:00:40,160 Jamar Alpha, play chase. You can't handle the heat. 11 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:41,800 It looks like we're finally at this point. 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:52,360 You're right. Good afternoon fellas. 13 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,520 How we doing? Weekend of drafting season or 14 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:57,960 post drafting season? How are how are you guys doing? 15 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:01,680 Doing great man. I I am. 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,000 I'm having a hard time. Are you guys having a hard time 17 00:01:06,000 --> 00:01:08,760 not drafting as much right now before the before the schedule 18 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:10,320 is out? I I'm currently having that 19 00:01:10,320 --> 00:01:13,720 issue. Well, you what you do is you you 20 00:01:13,720 --> 00:01:15,920 Max center slow the the mini schnauzer. 21 00:01:16,040 --> 00:01:18,000 That'll that'll kind of hold you off a little. 22 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:22,880 Yeah, I 9 tabled the Schnauzer just fired them all at once and 23 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,360 got it done on on the day it opened, so can't do that. 24 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:34,160 I've been limiting myself for basketball mania to cardio only 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,080 drafts. That's been my way of limiting 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,640 myself. I think I've only done like 5 or 27 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:40,880 6, but yeah, it's hard. I mean the the release is coming 28 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:42,720 soon. I I think I read somewhere it's 29 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,120 usually the first or second Thursday in May. 30 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,560 So I think it's gonna be this week, right? 31 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:49,120 It's supposed to be. It's supposed to be. 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,760 Thursday night is what the is what the sources are are saying. 33 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,400 I just feel like what's what am I gaining versus losing, You 34 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,840 know what I mean? Like and the ADP values are kind 35 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,160 of settling a little bit. I mean they're not fully 36 00:02:02,160 --> 00:02:04,080 settled, but are they gonna be like that much more settled by 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,800 Thursday? So I've I've been, I did some DK 38 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,840 their middle contest, 'cause my thing with that contest is like, 39 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,800 I didn't even Max it last year when I should have. 40 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,680 But I just like it's it's hard to get enough enough bullets in 41 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,640 over there. So I just anytime I'm I feel the 42 00:02:25,640 --> 00:02:28,200 draft itch, I just. Do one. 43 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:33,120 You got to do 25 in May as well, yeah. 25 in May to maximize rake 44 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:36,680 back if if any of you guys don't know that actually you need to 45 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,200 do 26 'cause I think the first one is free and they don't count 46 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:43,880 that you you get a free ticket. So I think you need to do 26 in 47 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,960 May. OK. 48 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:47,640 Got it. So you get like what? 49 00:02:47,640 --> 00:02:49,560 You get 100 bucks back or something if you do that? 50 00:02:49,760 --> 00:02:52,520 Every every entry gets 5 free then that. 51 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,160 What they'll do for those of you who are planning on maxing is 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,080 there's going to be a different offer every month and then there 53 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:01,200 also is going to be a cumulative reward for doing 150. 54 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:05,480 You you could basically end up doing the DK Miley rake free if 55 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,320 you play the the tickets and everything correctly. 56 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:10,560 Got it. You don't have to do anything 57 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,000 right, You just draft the teams and. 58 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,360 That's it. Sometimes you have to opt in, 59 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,920 this one you do not. Sometimes you have to opt in to 60 00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:19,960 the promos. But for this you do not. 61 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:25,000 Got it. Let's dive in here guys to the 62 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:29,880 ADP risers and fallers pulling up now the biggest risers since 63 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,640 I guess it wasn't really ADP risers. 64 00:03:32,640 --> 00:03:36,880 It's almost like initial rank risers to today. 65 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,960 Whatever that was in there originally was not really. 66 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:42,280 ADP was kind of initial ranks we have here. 67 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:46,840 Two of the biggest risers are Zeke Elliott and Rico Dowdle. 68 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:49,720 They're both up. You know, Zeke's up 73 spots. 69 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,360 He's actually flipped Dowdle. He goes at pick 133 now and 70 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:58,800 Dowdle goes at 141. Still feels like fairly cheap 71 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,120 prices. But I'll start with you, Davis. 72 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:05,120 What's been your approach to the Dallas backfield? 73 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:09,080 So I just updated my I just updated my ranks today. 74 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,000 I I have Dowdle ahead of Elliott, I think by like 3 75 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,960 spots. It's a it's definitely a low 76 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,320 conviction thing because the deal with Zeke is we've always 77 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,680 been forced to pay for the guaranteed touches. 78 00:04:24,040 --> 00:04:27,440 And look I hate it as much as you guys do but in Mike 79 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:31,480 McCarthy's mind and Jerry Jones's mind and Dax mind and 80 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:36,080 Elliott's mind he was not signed to share this backfield with 81 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,600 Rico Dowdall. I I promise you beyond a shadow 82 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,960 of a doubt that is not the idea that the organization has they 83 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:46,400 they are completely planning on just Zeke the you know we go 84 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:49,240 with Zeke goes right I I mean that is the way that it feels. 85 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,920 The thing is is he just has got like no giddy up left. 86 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,640 The the only possible way he ends up featuring on winning 87 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:01,280 teams is if he he he actually does what the opposite of 88 00:05:01,280 --> 00:05:04,320 Pollard did where Pollard just could not score touchdowns from 89 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,840 the one yard line. If Zeke just scores every short 90 00:05:06,840 --> 00:05:10,240 yardage touch he gets and obviously Dowdle has like just 91 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:13,440 you know, massive, massive contingent value and and should 92 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,080 play some passing down stuff as well. 93 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,080 Yeah, that makes sense. The way I was thinking about it 94 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,640 in terms of like, if you want to talk yourself into the upside of 95 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:25,640 Zeke, it's maybe like the Leonard Fournette 2021 season, 96 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,040 right? Like not not the season where he 97 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,400 split with Rashad White and kind of sucked, but the season before 98 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:33,280 that where he didn't do anything great, but he just accumulated a 99 00:05:33,280 --> 00:05:36,280 bunch of red zone looks, a decent amount of receptions. 100 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,120 It's it's not a super high upside case, right? 101 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,360 It's like RV 2 land probably, but that's something of it. 102 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,760 Pat, are you starting with Zeke? Are you ahead or behind on Zeke 103 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:46,840 at this current ADP? What? 104 00:05:47,240 --> 00:05:50,160 Are your thoughts basically even? 105 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,160 I think Davis is right. I flipped. 106 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,960 I flipped Elliott as he was making that point. 107 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,760 We had them back-to-back and I just put Zeke ahead. 108 00:05:59,840 --> 00:06:04,560 I'm OK Zeke kind of getting away from me at this point, but I I 109 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,840 think he's fine here still. And I think the upside case is 110 00:06:07,840 --> 00:06:10,520 basically just what he was last year like kind of just really 111 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:13,080 boring dump off stuff. But they trust him in passport 112 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,280 and so he'll be out there. It's not like out there to be a 113 00:06:15,280 --> 00:06:18,880 pass catcher, but he's out there to do, not to not screw stuff up 114 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:23,440 and he can do that. It is tough to draft a guy who I 115 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:29,200 think is like completely washed. So you know, I find Dalto to be 116 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,800 a little bit more intriguing as like you know he. 117 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:35,320 Maybe there's something there? Maybe there's something there. 118 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:38,040 Yeah, he he hasn't like played enough to even, like register 119 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,880 any metrics, but he looks interesting whenever he's out 120 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:43,280 there. So the most infuriating thing, 121 00:06:43,280 --> 00:06:45,480 pat on that is NFL Next Gen. Stats. 122 00:06:45,480 --> 00:06:48,840 I think you need a minimum of 90 carries to get charted for that. 123 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:50,280 And he had 89 last year. No? 124 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,320 Really. We we were literally, yeah, we 125 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,200 were literally one away from getting the Rico Dattle success 126 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:57,840 rate numbers, but we couldn't quite get there. 127 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:01,720 Yeah. So I did pull up like PFF has 128 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,800 some stuff on him that they will, you know dabble in the 129 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:11,200 smaller sample stuff if you compare. 48.9% Success Rate from 130 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:16,360 Pro Football Reference for Rico. OK, I don't know if the 131 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,400 definition of success rate is the same on next Gen. so I don't 132 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,640 know how to compare that to Zeke. 133 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:23,760 Yeah, but anyways. And and the success, I really 134 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,400 like the the next Gen. stuff 'cause they they can like see 135 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:31,840 the location of the defenders and stuff and so it I I it's one 136 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:33,000 of my favorite metrics, those two. 137 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:34,680 So it's a shame we don't have it. 138 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,240 The thing with Zeke and then this is what we're talking about 139 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:40,040 like this. If you look at Zeke in this 140 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,400 chart here, this explains like who he is and who he isn't. 141 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:47,440 Now he can be still a competent receiver, you know, 1.3 yards 142 00:07:47,440 --> 00:07:50,040 for outrun last year. That's a top 12 number for 143 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,920 running back in the NFL. He can catch dump offs and not 144 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:55,200 make mistakes in pass protection. 145 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,160 He'll be out in the field doing that sort of thing. 146 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:01,240 And then success rate 42%. That was 15th best among, you 147 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:03,760 know, 50 or so running backs last year. 148 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,280 Again, he he could be effective in short yardage stuff. 149 00:08:07,280 --> 00:08:09,240 But man, look at the breakaway rate. 150 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:13,320 It's hilariously bad. 2.6% breakaway rate. 151 00:08:13,320 --> 00:08:16,600 I think he that means he had maybe like one or two carries 152 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,120 over 15 plus yards last year on all of his touches. 153 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,440 That's really bad. So I mean he is truly washed 154 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,160 from like a breakaway long speed, all of that. 155 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,120 Can he be competent enough to accumulate touches with Jerry 156 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,919 Jones, You know, putting his weight behind him? 157 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,120 Sure, I guess. I think it's possible. 158 00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:40,120 Yeah, I mean, you're kind of like. 159 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:42,039 Definitely possible. It's just like, what do you win 160 00:08:42,039 --> 00:08:44,280 when you win with Zeke? Very, very little. 161 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:48,600 He he, you know he's like he's like reverse James White where 162 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,680 it's like it's like he can get you a floor by scoring A 163 00:08:51,680 --> 00:08:54,880 touchdown per week but but like he score weeks he scores a 164 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,320 touchdown. It's like he gets like 13.6 165 00:08:57,560 --> 00:08:59,400 points. The thing that scares me about 166 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:03,840 Zeke and the reason I am drafting some of them, is that I 167 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,400 think you might win something when you win because he's he's 168 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:09,120 out there on passing downs. You know he's potentially he's 169 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:12,560 like you're getting you're getting like dump off stuff 170 00:09:12,560 --> 00:09:15,080 which can kind of get you there on its own. 171 00:09:15,080 --> 00:09:18,680 And then if he's also the goal line back, I mean he could beat 172 00:09:18,680 --> 00:09:21,560 Jamal Williams. Could he beat Jamal Williams on 173 00:09:21,560 --> 00:09:22,920 the Cowboys? Kind of could. 174 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:27,200 Easy, easy, Just posted in the chat Zeke's pricer Zeke's price 175 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,080 right now is cheaper than Jamal Williams was in 2022. 176 00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:35,040 That's that's the bet so and and if he's Jamal Williams from 2022 177 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,320 you win at this price. I mean very clearly. 178 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,000 So yeah, I think he's he's pretty draftable. 179 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:45,720 I take two is like unless I I think the question on the 180 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,640 Cowboys running backs is like is there a high chance of them 181 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:50,880 bringing in. So easy was lying, he noted. 182 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:52,520 He was lying. He was actually going much later 183 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,520 than this. He pulled. 184 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:56,320 He pulled a real he he pulled a real Davis on that one. 185 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,320 It was just like, theoretically, it sounded true. 186 00:09:58,360 --> 00:09:59,840 So. Yeah, he went full Davis. 187 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,280 If it makes it part of a good argument, that's fine, you're 188 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:07,200 allowed to lie on, correct? But so my point with with these 189 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,160 two is like, unless they're gonna bring in someone else 190 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:15,080 significant, I think they're both just smashes at pick 13140. 191 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:18,560 And I sort of compiled like who are we worried about them adding 192 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:21,040 here? I think it would be one of these 193 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,840 trader cut candidates like. You don't have the right name to 194 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,600 worry about on here. There's there's actually one guy 195 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,240 who would be gettable in a trade and would come in and 196 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:32,200 immediately be a seventh round pick. 197 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:35,520 Damien Pierce. The Cowboys traded A conditional 198 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:37,080 fifth round pick. No. 199 00:10:37,440 --> 00:10:39,280 No, he's not. He definitely is not. 200 00:10:39,760 --> 00:10:40,360 No. Come on. 201 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,920 Done. Dude, they they just didn't. 202 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,680 They buried him. They immediately they were like, 203 00:10:44,680 --> 00:10:47,400 yeah, this is you're not it. He's lost his job. 204 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:51,280 So bad to Devin Singletary. He's not the first and won't be 205 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,120 the last. Zeke would run circles around 206 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:58,000 Damien Pierce. I, you know, I don't know. 207 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:00,720 I I mean, I think Khalil Herbert is the other one I I think. 208 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:02,720 That's a good one. Herbert's got some. 209 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,800 Juice. The two that would immediately 210 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:09,720 make me draft differently would be Khalil Herbert and Damien 211 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,040 Pierce. I'm not sure Damien Pierce would 212 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,640 beat out Trey Sermon. Oh, come on, come on. 213 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:19,520 Damien Pierce was a Damien Pierce was a good player as a 214 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:21,840 rookie and he just, he just didn't play last year. 215 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,720 Yeah, because he got benched is why I didn't play. 216 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,480 I mean a lot of guys get it's just like we've been having this 217 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,360 whole argument in the ship chasing discord for like the 218 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:33,680 last like 3 hours about running back production. 219 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:36,520 It it really just matters who the coaches are going to give 220 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,760 the ball to. And I would imagine, because 221 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,320 I've seen it done, that Pierce can just handle 250 touches in a 222 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:44,960 way that I don't think Dow will probably can. 223 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,640 I mean like physically you can like hold up to 250 touches, but 224 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:54,200 I just, I don't think he's got the, I don't think he's going to 225 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:57,240 compel anyone to do that. Yeah. 226 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,160 But I think like the overall point is any, any name on this 227 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,160 list, like even the best one say we think it's Khalil Herbert. 228 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,240 It's still not a guarantee that Cleo Herbert comes in and steals 229 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,760 the job. I think you'd probably be the 230 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,480 favorite and you know it would matter what they traded for him. 231 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,520 But there's just not like last year and prior years there's 232 00:12:15,520 --> 00:12:19,160 been these free agents hanging around like Leonard Fournette, 233 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,920 Dalvin Cook, etcetera. I mean all these guys ended up 234 00:12:21,920 --> 00:12:25,120 being dust anyways, but there was at least like these name 235 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:27,920 brand guys that could have come in and still won a lot of 236 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,320 touches. And this year, I just don't 237 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:33,000 think like what Josh Kelly's going to sign or Cam Maker's 238 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,800 going to sign, I mean. Last year was the year of the 239 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:39,880 free agent running back, like, you know all I was Fournette, 240 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:42,360 Kareem Hunt. There was another. 241 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,080 One Dalvin cook once you go cook. 242 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:45,640 Yeah, even. Like, even. 243 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:49,200 Deontay Foreman, I think could come in and and steal like a 244 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,960 good part of this job, but he's in Cleveland. 245 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:54,880 Now so. Yeah, yeah, I agree. 246 00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:57,200 It's not like anybody that's lurking, really. 247 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:04,120 The Bears guys, I mean, they've got Swift, Roshan, you know, if 248 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:07,160 they decide to like, you know, keep Travis Homer and they cut 249 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:08,720 Khalil Herbert, that would shake things up. 250 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:13,200 You never know. You never know Travis Homer got 251 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:19,200 a lot of guaranteed money on that roster people didn't 252 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:20,920 forget. Let let's move here to maybe 253 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:25,320 more exciting name Ben Sanat Sano. 254 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,120 I'm not sure how we're. Pronouncing it, I've been saying 255 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:30,160 Sanet Sonata's it's Yeah, I don't know. 256 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,600 I guess I should know. But this is an A change 257 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:36,120 situation where until we're sure, let's just say what sounds 258 00:13:36,120 --> 00:13:37,520 coolest. What sounds good and? 259 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,080 It's Sonata. Sonata. 260 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,520 He's up, He's up. I think he's the biggest riser 261 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:46,480 at tight end, up 75 spots. He got the unexpectedly high 262 00:13:46,920 --> 00:13:50,240 second round draft capital, which is obviously driving this. 263 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,640 Curious Pat, I know you dug into the rookie tight ends. 264 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,800 What is like, what are we getting in this player? 265 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,520 What kind of like tight end archetype are we talking about 266 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,840 and what's his sort of path to success in 2024? 267 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,800 Yeah, he he was an interesting guy because he was sort of like 268 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:12,120 a mixed-use, like H back type of guy. 269 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:16,440 He won. He did not win the Mackie Award 270 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,320 in college. He won the the award for best. 271 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:24,720 The low. Man yeah so he was the the the 272 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:29,000 nation's best fullback which isn't you know what we want to 273 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:33,840 hear about a tight end but he throughout the entire pre draft 274 00:14:33,840 --> 00:14:38,800 process was treated as a tight end and he's going to play it 275 00:14:38,800 --> 00:14:42,600 sounds like traditional tight end in an in the NFL. 276 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:44,640 I thought he had a pretty interesting profile. 277 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,720 He was my tight end two pre draft behind Brock Bowers. 278 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:51,080 I ended up moving him ahead of Davion Sanders. 279 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:56,200 I had Sanders ahead for a while but his his pro day was terrible 280 00:14:56,520 --> 00:14:58,840 and I thought that would affect his draft capital. 281 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,960 It did and then tonight went higher than I even thought but 282 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,120 he's he's good after the catch. It is probably like where you're 283 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:09,040 if you're looking for him to like what's he bringing to the 284 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:11,400 table as a receiver. He's really good after the 285 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,440 catch. He's also pretty good in the 286 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,960 intermediate area. So you can add kind of 287 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:20,360 playmaking like kind of downfield, not like super deep 288 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:24,800 downfield, but you know, 10 plus yards downfield adding Yak on 289 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:28,040 top of that. And he's really athletic. 290 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:36,240 He had a 46846823 cone, a 40 inch vertical, 126 inch broad 291 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:38,960 jump. So you are getting that really, 292 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:44,320 really high Ras score 9.73 Ras was just a little bit below Theo 293 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,840 Johnson there. But it's become kind of an edge 294 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:50,720 just to like you know treat the guys who are super athletic just 295 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,640 not the very, the very most athletic guy in the class and 296 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:56,920 and get excited about them and he he definitely fits that. 297 00:15:56,920 --> 00:16:02,400 So you know, you're you're betting on him to kind of be in 298 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:06,120 a Zach Urtsy type of role, big receiver kind of guy, They move 299 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,680 around. It's a it's a real battle of the 300 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:12,600 bags here situation where I've got a lot of Cenet bags and I 301 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,400 plan on continuing to to to draft him but also this the 302 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,480 earth's big board bags are you know they're these two things 303 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:24,000 are are not aligned So Cenet was recruited as a full back to K 304 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,760 state. He played full back for his 305 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:29,720 first two years. He switched to tight end, had 31 306 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,680 receptions his first year playing tight end, and then LED 307 00:16:32,680 --> 00:16:36,640 the team in receiving last year. I mean, I I think at tight end, 308 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:38,200 Pat and I have talked about this a lot. 309 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:42,560 Like, it's just a weird position where it's very hard to learn. 310 00:16:42,600 --> 00:16:44,920 It's just a hard, it's just a hard, it's hard to learn to 311 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,720 block and run routes. And you know, you have to learn. 312 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:49,360 It's just very difficult to play. 313 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,480 There's a reason why NFL teams take so many of these guys and 314 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,000 then we never hear from them because it's just hard to be 315 00:16:55,240 --> 00:16:57,800 good at. And it's also why hits at the 316 00:16:57,800 --> 00:16:59,280 position are so weird. Why? 317 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,080 Like you have guys who were drafted in the fifth round who 318 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:05,200 were just good forever. Because it's just, it's just 319 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,560 kind of random. Now. 320 00:17:07,960 --> 00:17:09,359 This is where I'm having a hard time. 321 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:12,079 I'm trying to not be so much of A sloppy this year where I'm 322 00:17:12,079 --> 00:17:15,480 just like, whatever I I like. I like Ben Sennett. 323 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:17,359 So I'm just gonna, I'm just gonna chase him all the way up 324 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,160 the board. I mean, right now it's so 325 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:21,240 frothy, right? Like. 326 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,119 We does feel a little frothy. Yeah, it's. 327 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:25,040 Like the kind of immediately get away from us. 328 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:30,080 Yeah, yeah, I mean this is, this is the effect I think of the 329 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:31,880 people who are drafting right now. 330 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:35,280 I saw some thread on it. I'm going to forget who posted 331 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,280 it. But essentially rookie AD PS 332 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:40,320 like reach their peak around this time of year, maybe early 333 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,840 June and then steadily kind of like drift back towards a more, 334 00:17:44,960 --> 00:17:46,920 you know, steady state later, ADP later. 335 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,160 I think we're getting a little bit of that effect with Sanaa 336 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,800 where it's just guys like us who love seeing the, you know, the 337 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:54,840 guys who don't have the profile pictures in Underdog and we're 338 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,120 like, oh, I I want that guy because he's a rookie. 339 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,400 Yeah, but it just it, you know, I know we just had this 340 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,440 incredible year of rookie tight ends and he, I think he kind of 341 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,920 fits where where he could have a strong rookie season for sure. 342 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:13,200 But there is another guy there who does a similar thing. 343 00:18:14,120 --> 00:18:16,880 You got a mobile quarterback. I'm not sure like exactly how 344 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:20,040 much pass volume we'll have in Washington and he's already 345 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:22,600 starting to get up where it's like are you taking him over 346 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:26,960 Hunter Henry who just got a big quarterback upgrade like a 347 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,280 offensive. You know, not being a total 348 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,440 disaster potential upgrade. And there's like not not any 349 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,280 wide receivers other than rookies to compete with. 350 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:36,960 Like you know Hunter Henry can play tight end. 351 00:18:36,960 --> 00:18:39,440 Like that's not a question. There's actually a question of 352 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:42,440 whether or not Ben Sennot can even play tight end this season. 353 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:45,640 Like, I don't mean as opposed to full back but like how how many 354 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,400 snaps does he get. There's a there's a veteran 355 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:49,880 there like that. He's got to beat out. 356 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:54,840 It could take a while. So I I want to be in on Sennot. 357 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,280 But. I I guess I I don't know. 358 00:18:57,280 --> 00:19:00,040 I'm struggling to get a. He's already at the 162 in ADP. 359 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,440 You want to take him. You want to take him with 360 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,320 Daniels, like he gets a huge boost. 361 00:19:04,760 --> 00:19:09,600 With Jayden Daniels, you probably want him a little bit. 362 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,080 But I mean, so the chat is kind of making this point, but I 363 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,720 don't think they're making the point that they think they are 364 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:18,520 in a weird. So they're saying, they're 365 00:19:18,520 --> 00:19:21,640 saying, oh, it's because of all the rookie tight ends doing good 366 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:23,400 last year, like Laporta finished tight end one. 367 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:27,640 So now everyone is trying to everyone thinks rookie tight 368 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,200 ends are good, But that was the argument we were making last 369 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,480 year for Laporta, which is just rookie tight ends just don't 370 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,120 play. That's been the issue 371 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:37,200 historically, is that rookie tight ends just do not get on 372 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,880 the field. It's not that there's some 373 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,120 mystifying magic that hangs over you as a rookie tight end that 374 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:43,680 says you can't score fantasy points. 375 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,960 It's just that by and large, they don't get on the field. 376 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:50,360 I mean, the the roadblocks in front of CNET are are they're 377 00:19:50,360 --> 00:19:53,840 old and they're slow, right? I mean, it's Ertz. 378 00:19:53,840 --> 00:19:55,840 And they still might do a ton of. 379 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,840 They still might do a ton of 12 also. 380 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:00,480 Like, if you think about it, what's their wide, what's their 381 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,640 base personnel like? They're going to want to run 382 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:06,080 with their quarterback and they don't really have outside of 383 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,440 Mclaurin, any wide receiver, like really deserves to be on 384 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:10,440 the field. I guess we'll see what happens 385 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:15,640 with Neppo Baby McCaffrey. Yeah, was was he was around two 386 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,600 years ago, right and. Yeah, he, he said. 387 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:23,400 Trey McBride This guy played Zach Ertz over Trey McBride. 388 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,720 So it's a little bit of a red flag. 389 00:20:25,080 --> 00:20:28,200 That's a big red flag. Yeah, that's a big red flag. 390 00:20:28,360 --> 00:20:30,920 Well, you know, it's it's I I come out, I win either way. 391 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,760 Either my my Senate bags win in in Best Ball Mania or the 392 00:20:34,760 --> 00:20:37,160 Earth's big board bags win. So it's fine. 393 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,160 I do think like 165, I think it's like trending towards 394 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,080 overpriced. But I still think, I don't know, 395 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:49,320 I'd probably take him over Kate Alton, just the outside element. 396 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:52,840 I think it's like Kate Alton goes right next to him there. 397 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:56,040 I do think what's going to like be ready like especially if you 398 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,720 play in like redraft like a tight end premium league like 399 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:03,840 get ready for weeks one through 5% to have a 20% route rate and 400 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Zachary to be the starter. I think by the end of the season 401 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,440 we see probably a lot of Senate and that's what we're drafting 402 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,960 for in these contests. But it's not going to be like I 403 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,240 can almost guarantee this is not going to be fun to start the 404 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:15,920 year. No, I it's a lot. 405 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,160 It's not. We will all be playing $3300 406 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:22,000 Zach Ertz in Week 2 on DraftKings. 407 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,040 Like 1 billion percent? Yeah. 408 00:21:26,120 --> 00:21:30,560 Yeah, I mean, the other thing is that like, Kate Otten's gonna 409 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,480 run a ton of routes. Like, I actually feel pretty 410 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:36,240 confident it's I what are you looking for at tight end this 411 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:38,040 late and the way tight end breaks down? 412 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:42,080 Like to me, I'm trying to get my tight ends done pretty early. 413 00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:45,480 So I've got a lot of rooms that are like, you know, like Mark 414 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:51,600 Andrews and like I'm I'm done with with Evan. 415 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,120 I might go Evan Ingram or I might go down. 416 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:56,360 Scott or Big Ferguson, I don't do that. 417 00:21:56,360 --> 00:21:59,320 That's kind of all the rage right now is the double top ten 418 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,440 tight end. I I don't like doing that. 419 00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:07,320 I I prefer to do you know in a in a tournament where we are are 420 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:13,000 trying to to win you know half a karaine or I guess .7 fives of a 421 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:14,520 karaine. We are. 422 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:20,200 I like to do 1 elite tight end and then one shitter and just 423 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:26,000 say I can get 6.4 fantasy points from Dawson Knox the same as I 424 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:29,600 can from Dalton Schultz. You know, like I I I really just 425 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:31,680 do so Senat. Works pretty well for that. 426 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,920 He works pretty well for that. And sometimes I feel like I if I 427 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:40,000 don't have the elite, I like AK dot and I like a Juan Johnson. 428 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:45,800 I like a Hunter Henry as part as like these guys have jobs and 429 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,200 I'm like if Sonata doesn't have a job, which he might not. 430 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:54,360 It gets a little tougher for me to to lean on and I don't like 431 00:22:54,440 --> 00:22:57,280 if I don't have the the, but I probably should pair more Sanat 432 00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:58,480 with the elite. I I like that. 433 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:03,360 Sanat is is probably worse when you when it's Luke Musgrave, 434 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,120 Hunter Henry and Ben Sanat because then you that's what I'm 435 00:23:06,120 --> 00:23:09,360 saying yeah but like you just might not get any points and you 436 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:11,840 you're just like 2 points is your is your score from your 437 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,320 title on that week. Like Kate Auten compared to Ben 438 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,160 Sanat on that. On that team, I'm like, hell, 439 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,360 like I won. Like Juan Johnson, Hunter Henry 440 00:23:18,360 --> 00:23:20,000 and Kate Auten. That feels pretty good. 441 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,800 Throw Sanat in for one of those guys. 442 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:24,640 I'm like I don't what do I have here? 443 00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:28,560 Yeah, the The thing is, and I'll, I'll end it with this, we 444 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,920 can move on. I do think this year the dynamic 445 00:23:31,360 --> 00:23:33,520 of the late round tight end is a lot worse. 446 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,360 And I heard you Pat, I think make this point where there's 447 00:23:36,360 --> 00:23:39,520 like 8 teams right now where like a tight end isn't even 448 00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,120 draftable on the roster, 'cause it's such a gross committee. 449 00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:45,800 Like you can put the Chargers in there, you can put the Panthers 450 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:47,840 in there. Like there's a bunch of teams 451 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:49,880 where it's really hard to draft a tight end. 452 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:53,600 So I do kind of understand, like last year it was like shooting 453 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,640 fish in a barrel. You get Trey McBride, you can 454 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,000 get. Jake Ferguson you could get. 455 00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,760 Well, they. Removed. 456 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:02,120 They removed one of the big wins. 457 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:05,200 Taysom Hill is not eligible at tight end on on underdog 458 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,800 anymore. Which people might laugh, but 459 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:11,320 like, I mean, I've been I a guy who famously never took any 460 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,680 stands on players, just took 25% of Taysom every year because it 461 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:16,240 was just an easy way to get points. 462 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,400 He's still a tight end on DraftKings. 463 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:21,760 He is correct. He used to be a quarterback on 464 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,120 DraftKings. They're the only site that got 465 00:24:23,120 --> 00:24:24,480 it right. They changed their minds. 466 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,880 I love it. I can't think when everyone else 467 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,240 is zagging man. Yeah. 468 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,680 Are people going to fade Taysom Mill again because they don't 469 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,160 use their trick plays in the preseason or is that? 470 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,480 I I it's it's the The thing about Taysom is he's been the 471 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,920 same super elite best ball pick every single year and no one has 472 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,120 ever learned their lesson. No one has ever changed their 473 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:45,920 mind about it, despite seeing the direct evidence for it. 474 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:52,920 Yeah, I think that changed my. Mind I I wasn't originally on 475 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,080 Taysom all the. Way you were. 476 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,680 You were? Yeah, so I so I I have changed 477 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,600 my mind. Good for you, good for you. 478 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:04,560 Stay flexible. Kamani Vidal, He's up 70 spots 479 00:25:04,680 --> 00:25:07,320 from basically undrafted to pick 170. 480 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,400 Now obviously the story behind this is Chargers were the best 481 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:13,280 landing spot out there for running back. 482 00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:17,640 Maybe besides the Cowboys. And there's just no one there. 483 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,720 Pat, what? What's your ranking on Vidal? 484 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:27,960 Is this has this gone too far? I mean, the thing with Vidal is 485 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,640 that it's like, hard to say and so I'm now behind ADP on him. 486 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:36,640 But has it gone too far? Like probably. 487 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,320 But if it hasn't, if it hasn't, then it hasn't gone nearly far 488 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:42,160 enough. Is it? 489 00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,760 Is it right? If he's ahead of Gus Edwards 490 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:46,480 coming week one, we're all going to be like, do you? 491 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,560 We didn't want to draft him at RB48. 492 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,040 Why not? Yeah, exactly Like, and what are 493 00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:55,880 you really giving up if you chase Vidal? 494 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,160 I know it's not like fun to chase Vidal right now. 495 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,800 I'll probably just raise him up because what I'm going to do 496 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,920 with Vidal is continually capitulate until it just until 497 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,520 it gets away from us. If it gets away from us like 498 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:11,440 this and and then I'll then I'll finally say it's insane because 499 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,800 it will become insane. If he's like a seventh round 500 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:16,400 pick, that I mean that's that's nuts. 501 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:22,400 But on the way to that and we potentially are headed there. 502 00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,160 Why am I going to like sweat the difference of like you really 503 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,080 ought to pay $1.00 for him in the auction draft, not two. 504 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,600 You can't play two, you can't pay $2.00 for him. 505 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,720 That's twice as much. Like who fucking cares. 506 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,520 Just pay $2.00 for him, you know if he if you take him in the 507 00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,720 15th, 14th, whatever, like it probably doesn't matter. 508 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,960 He is normally. I don't like taking these like 509 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,360 really kind of dart throwy swings at running back this 510 00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:50,760 early when we don't know the depth chart. 511 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,280 It is possible he's on the practice squad, this guy like, 512 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,680 he could be a complete 0, but. But here's the thing, though. 513 00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,720 If he ends up like if we get good news from him all summer, I 514 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,880 mean, this is your dude who's going in the sixth round. 100%, 515 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:06,000 yes. Yeah. 516 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,240 No, I mean, there is no what do you win when you win here? 517 00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,920 We all know what we win. And I think we should therefore 518 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,200 be willing to get a little looser. 519 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:16,320 I mean, I didn't, I didn't like him that much as a prospect. 520 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,040 I know JJ Zacharyson liked him a lot. 521 00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:20,960 There are some things to like. He's kind of a little bit 522 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:24,560 plotting. But I mean pretty strong lower 523 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,360 body type of guy. What we want, yeah. 524 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,160 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Harbaugh, here's plotting 525 00:27:30,160 --> 00:27:33,280 and he said, yeah, tell me more. He kind of a little Gus 526 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Edwardsy, to be honest. I mean, he might be like young 527 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:37,880 Gus Edwards, which is enough. That's enough. 528 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,160 You want to know. You want to know what a very 529 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,200 good undrafted free agent slash day three comp guy who weighs 530 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,720 215 lbs and is pretty fast. James. 531 00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,520 Robinson. James. 532 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:49,040 Robinson. No. 533 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:49,760 Isaiah. Isaiah. 534 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:51,880 Pacheco. He looks more like Robinson. 535 00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:54,280 If you kind of are envisioning him, he's got kind of. 536 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:58,080 He's a little like I'm I'm not going to, I'm not going to say I 537 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:02,600 went real deep on, you know, Troy University tape. 538 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:04,080 I I'm just going to be real about it. 539 00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:09,600 But the the, the the point is so true, which is for Kamani Vidal. 540 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:12,160 What's the difference if you're taking your zero in the 14th 541 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:16,160 round or the 18th round when this is the depth chart he's got 542 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:19,400 to beat out? JK Dobbins is the fucking knight 543 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,320 for Monty Python. It's like I don't even know how 544 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,080 this guy walks. It's, it's. 545 00:28:23,120 --> 00:28:24,000 It's. Insane. 546 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,600 Gus Edwards, you know, Absolutely. 547 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:29,840 Shout out to Gus Edwards. All those touchdowns last year. 548 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,200 Gus Edwards. When you look up the definition 549 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,200 of replacement level running back, it's just a picture of Gus 550 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:39,920 Edwards smiling at you. And we've got Elijah Dotson. 551 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:43,280 Isaiah Spiller and Jarrett Patterson are the only other 552 00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:44,960 guys were even signed on the roster. 553 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:48,680 At this point, it is the most wide open depth chart in the 554 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:51,000 NFL. It's like a dynasty team. 555 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:52,640 I have, I have. I've been managing it very 556 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,160 actively. It has all of those dudes on it. 557 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,840 I mean, I'm positive. I have at least three of those 558 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,200 guys on one team somewhere. If I, if I really. 559 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,520 If I really looked, yeah. Yeah, I'm with you guys like I'm 560 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,960 with you, Pat. Where it usually look if I, if 561 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,400 I, if I'm like, at risk of a dead roster spot, I don't want 562 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:14,200 it to be like chasing, you know, the Las Vegas Raiders. 563 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,280 Scandal. Yeah, I I want to be. 564 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,400 Chasing the target, starting running back. 565 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,640 No, we're not letting you get away with this. 566 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,880 No, no loudly slaughter, slander on this program. 567 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,640 Not allowed. Fair enough, but yeah, but all. 568 00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,320 Fair, fair. That's fair. 569 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:32,120 Fair. Fair enough. 570 00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,040 Yeah. Now you can't. 571 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:36,680 You can't slander the derogatory, the the 5-10 running 572 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:38,320 back from UNH. There's no way. 573 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:41,400 Yeah, you can't slander him. Or brother. 574 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:43,760 Pickleball. True. 575 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,480 Talking about white guys. All in all in on Nipple Baby 576 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,040 McCaffrey. He's picked 184 now. 577 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:56,680 Yeah, I don't know. I don't, I don't have any 578 00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,760 McCaffrey hot takes, but third round wide receiver in the late 579 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:03,560 rounds just seems like a good archetype to hit on. 580 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:05,960 I do think his profile, like his college profile, is kind of 581 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,200 interesting. He came in as a quarterback and 582 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:10,920 then switched over to wide receiver. 583 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:13,560 That's like, you know, the Katarius Tony path, which worked 584 00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:16,480 out really well. But yeah, it's kind of 585 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,320 interesting. He was very productive as a wide 586 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:22,560 receiver once he switched at Rice, which is a bit lower 587 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:26,320 competition, but I think you can squint and see an interesting 588 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,360 profile. Super high Rascal too, with 589 00:30:28,360 --> 00:30:30,800 McCaffrey. So I like the dark throw at pick 590 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,240 184 and I I do think you get some compared to the other late 591 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,760 wide receivers in his range. I think you get better certainty 592 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:39,240 he's going to be out on the field by the end of the season, 593 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:40,960 so I think he's a pretty good pick. 594 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,000 Did you do a? Depth tour. 595 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,640 Start the season. Yeah, yeah. 596 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,640 The depth chart on this has got to be brutal. 597 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:50,480 Outrageous. I mean, it's it's worse. 598 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:52,120 It's it's worse than the Patriots. 599 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,040 I mean, it's this. These are the guys who could 600 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,520 theoretically be on the field week one Dax, Milne, Diami 601 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:03,800 Brown, Olamide Zacchaeus or Jameson Crowder. 602 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:10,320 Yeah, Diami Brown definitely drafted a ton of Diami Brown, 603 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:11,560 like three years ago. That's a tough. 604 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:12,080 Oh, I did. It's. 605 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,480 A tough name to hear. I drafted a punch, but yeah, and 606 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,280 James crowd of 30, by the way. Yeah, Luke Mccaffrey's gonna be 607 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,240 their starting slot receiver probably Week 1. 608 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,200 The other thing is that so OK, no one's blocking him from 609 00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:29,120 getting on the field, but like, is he better than Jahan Dotson 610 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:30,600 right now? Right now. 611 00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:35,600 He might be. So, I mean, and then we just 612 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,080 talked about it's like aging Zach Gertz, Ben Sinat, Who 613 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,960 knows? Like this guy could be the 614 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:44,560 secondary weapon in an offense. That's like not bad. 615 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,280 Maybe they're not great, but I I'm kind of into McCaffrey. 616 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:52,160 I mean he this is kind of like anyway this is one of the best 617 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,200 landing spots that you could have for like just having some 618 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,240 production right away. And what if Jane? 619 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,000 What if Jane Daniels is, like, crazy good? 620 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,680 Like, I mean, I'm, I think Verdict's reel out on that. 621 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:07,040 But like, what if Jane Daniels is like Stroud Ish level, you 622 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,120 know, as a rookie? Like, just really good right 623 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:10,520 away. Yeah, and I don't. 624 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,800 I'm not a Daniels guy, personally, but if you're just 625 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,880 trying to get like a good rookie season out of them, even if 626 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:19,120 you're like very skeptical, and I'm pretty skeptical. 627 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,880 But this is a decent enough spot, getting Cliff Kingsbury, 628 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,080 Cliff Kingsbury, like he's going to run the ball too much. 629 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:31,200 He's going to be, he's not going to be creative, you know, but 630 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,440 he's gonna design an offense that generally fits what Daniels 631 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,440 does well. He's gonna be OK. 632 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,040 My concern. Who's gonna win in the 633 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,600 horizontal raid? Luke McCaffrey or Terry 634 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,200 Mclaurin? Ask yourself that. 635 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:46,520 Yes, 2-3 years from now we're gonna be like dude, you know 636 00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:49,840 you'd made Jane Daniels boring like go back to Thailand. 637 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:54,360 But this, you know this Year 1 Cliff can stay and and coach, 638 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,160 we're we're good with it. Correct. 639 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,480 Yeah, I don't think I don't have much else to say McCaffrey, but 640 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,280 I think there's there's no reason to be out on his 641 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,120 archetype at pick 184. I don't think Samir White, he's 642 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,000 an interesting one. He's up 20 picks now to pick 81. 643 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,560 I think if you were to look at you know, the range of outcomes 644 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,800 Samir White could have had this offseason, this was the best 645 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,280 possible outcome for him. Dylan, Dylan. 646 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,920 Now beside they did not add a ton of competition with Alex 647 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:30,840 Madison and you know a 7th, 6th round pick at running back, I 648 00:33:30,840 --> 00:33:33,400 think this price adjustment makes sense. 649 00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:36,120 Curious what your thoughts here are. 650 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,160 Davis on Zamir White. I pick 81. 651 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:44,840 I can't, I can't click him. I mean how like, I mean, sure 652 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:49,560 could be great. I mean, maybe he just comes back 653 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,080 and just does the exact same thing he was doing at the end of 654 00:33:52,080 --> 00:33:53,760 last year. You know, getting all these 655 00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,600 carries, what he played like literally like 98% of the snaps 656 00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,680 last month of the season. But I mean the offense is not 657 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,920 going to be very good bad, bad Bowers they have Adams back but 658 00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:06,840 the quarterback play is just going to like suck. 659 00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,800 The team is very philosophically committed to running the ball. 660 00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,639 And I I to be fair they don't have like a ready made guy who 661 00:34:15,639 --> 00:34:18,639 could you think would start over him. 662 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,159 But it really would not be surprising if it's like 11 663 00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:26,239 carries for Zamir White, 8 carries for Alexander Madison, 2 664 00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,280 for Amir Abdullah. Like it's you know just like a 665 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,800 total gross. I I'm just, I'm really not 666 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,719 interested. I I prefer Pollard. 667 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:38,199 I prefer Romandre, I prefer Jalen Morin. 668 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,000 Probably just hard for me to click him. 669 00:34:42,679 --> 00:34:45,960 Yeah, what about you? I've been taking Zamir White 670 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:48,880 because I have no interest in taking him. 671 00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:53,920 Once he moves up a little more and I think he will, I he kind 672 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,120 of stalled out like I thought he would rise up even further. 673 00:34:57,120 --> 00:35:00,320 I thought we might be dealing with like sixth round Zoomir 674 00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,280 White. And so I was actually being a 675 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:06,400 little bit aggressive about adding him just with the idea 676 00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,960 that I would probably be at 0% in the 6th. 677 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,120 But maybe he's maybe that rise is actually stalled out and 678 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,560 he'll be around pick 80 and I think he's he's OK there. 679 00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,600 But if he kind of just chills out here for a while I'll 680 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:28,320 probably start taking Warren and and Remandre again ahead of him. 681 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:32,560 Because yeah I I'm generally with Davis in terms of like I 682 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:37,280 don't like him the most in this range but he's very easy for me 683 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,800 to see people making the bull case on you know you have the he 684 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,440 was a very athletic he was at one point a really highly 685 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:47,800 regarded prospect entering college suffers some some 686 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:53,240 injuries and then you know he's he's got a clear path to the 687 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:55,880 touches. He had that clear path last year 688 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:57,440 it resulted in a lot of production. 689 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,200 This is a profile that we normally are asked to pay a 690 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,040 fifth round sixth round price tag for. 691 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:09,960 So I'm just like as long as it's sitting here I I want to make 692 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,800 sure I'm mixing it in and it will allow me to more full fade 693 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,480 it if it rises that's that's my ideal. 694 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:17,680 Please steam him up. I'm. 695 00:36:17,720 --> 00:36:18,760 I'm good. I got enough. 696 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:23,880 Yeah, I I think I'm a little bit more optimistic on the talent 697 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:25,880 profile for Zamir White than you guys. 698 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,520 I guess like zooming way out on him. 699 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:32,280 He's a guy who was the number one running back in the 2018 700 00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:35,360 recruiting class, you know, got scholarship offers from Alabama, 701 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,080 Clemson, Georgia, basically everyone you know, his college 702 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,200 coach who was Todd Monken, the offensive coordinator, used him 703 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,680 as a primary ball carrier over James Cook pretty consistently. 704 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,640 You know, it was still a committee, but he was seen in 705 00:36:49,640 --> 00:36:53,480 college as having better talent as a rusher than James Cook. 706 00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,800 And then you look at his rushing efficiency last year and 707 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,720 everyone wants to say, oh, Jacob's efficiency. 708 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,520 Efficiency was so bad, but it's just because he was on the 709 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,240 Raiders. That team was horrible. 710 00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:07,000 You look at some of your white and he was pretty damn good 711 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:09,520 across the board. You know, a really high success 712 00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,800 rate, second best in the NFL. Yeah, it was fine. 713 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,440 And that's the thing. The team committed, you know, 714 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:19,320 down the stretch last year he had 23 plus touches in four 715 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:21,360 straight games. Like they built the whole 716 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,120 identity out of Zamir White and it was effective. 717 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:29,080 Like they beat the Chiefs. I do think that that's the 718 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,200 team's plan right now is to sort of build the whole ship out of 719 00:37:32,200 --> 00:37:35,200 Zamir White. And I still think the price is 720 00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:37,320 fine. So yeah, he's not a guy I'm 721 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:39,840 saying I'm going all in on. I'm chasing him up to the 4th or 722 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,920 fifth round, but I do think I'd pick 80. 723 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:45,200 Like you can squint and see a pretty exciting talent profile 724 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,800 for Zamir White. It's just that it's a little bit 725 00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,200 weird, right? Because he was blocked for two 726 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:52,840 years by Josh Jacob, so he has such little NFL production 727 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,480 through two years. But if he was like, I I guess 728 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:57,440 the way I'm trying to reframe it is like if Zamir White was 729 00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,320 coming into the league as a rookie and we're like oh this 730 00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,640 guy, he like out produced James, you know James Cook in college 731 00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:06,920 and is coming to a wide open depth chart. 732 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,480 I think would be pretty excited about him. 733 00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:11,240 Yeah, that's true. Yeah. 734 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:14,120 No, I I wanna. I wanna be taking him now. 735 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,240 I don't like it. I don't like it that I'm taking 736 00:38:17,240 --> 00:38:20,400 him now, but I am doing it. That's that's where I'm at. 737 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,080 You know the the thing about him is that he's been around for too 738 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,080 long. Like if this was if this was 739 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:28,760 Year 2 for him. But the fact that it's year 740 00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:33,800 three and people remember him not playing literally at all as 741 00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,600 a rookie like that, that's, I mean for me that's that's kind 742 00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,400 of what it is. And he also is like the worst 743 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:44,000 receiving back he he's got his last six years playing or 744 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,920 organized football, college and pro, 32 receptions, 32 745 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,920 receptions his last six years. So where I can, where I could 746 00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,440 dig up, I guess I could go back and look at his high school 747 00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:56,120 stats. But I'm gonna guess he didn't 748 00:38:56,120 --> 00:38:57,600 catch the ball very much then, either. 749 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,040 Oh man. It's not great, no. 750 00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,840 You're not betting on him for the receiving profile, but. 751 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,320 Yeah, they they got, they got a white lacrosse player for that. 752 00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:13,560 Crystal Love now is up five picks. 753 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,800 He's at the end of the second, or I guess he started at the end 754 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:18,520 of the second round. Now he's more of a mid second 755 00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,440 pick. And it's so funny, 'cause it has 756 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,120 nothing to do with him. It's all the dynamics around 757 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,880 him. It it's got there's no news, 758 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:27,800 there's nothing about him. It's nothing to do with the 759 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,720 Saints. It's all people deciding. 760 00:39:29,720 --> 00:39:31,440 They like the guys around him less. 761 00:39:32,120 --> 00:39:34,520 Yep. Yeah, that's all it is. 762 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,520 But I don't know like what are your thoughts? 763 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,080 I'm curious both you guys like we now have all the we like 764 00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,480 Crystal, Lava, Garrett Wilson and Drake London. 765 00:39:44,720 --> 00:39:48,160 I think you can put them in this cohort of guys who like fantasy 766 00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,760 wise talking like raw fantasy points not like any fancy target 767 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,680 share stuff. Like they they kind of have been 768 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:58,520 relatively useless fantasy assets for both years of their 769 00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,880 career. Like. 770 00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,600 And now I get I get why in year three we can project like huge 771 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,720 leaps for them. But I I don't know like are we 772 00:40:06,720 --> 00:40:09,400 overthinking it? Taking a lave say over more 773 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,200 proven fantasy producers like Debo Devante Adams. 774 00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,880 You'd even throw Jalen Waddle guys like that in there. 775 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,760 Or do you guys think he has that side to deserve this price? 776 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:22,400 I don't. Really like it? 777 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:24,160 No one. Here's the thing. 778 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,200 I don't want to have to do this for four months. 779 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:29,960 I just can't. The the second round sucks, and 780 00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:31,960 we're going to have to elevate dudes who don't deserve it. 781 00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:34,840 That's just how it works. There's no one here where 782 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,560 there's not. I don't think we're going to 783 00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:41,000 find somebody that is deserving of pick 16 or whatever. 784 00:40:41,240 --> 00:40:45,560 And so we're just going to all have to pick a guy and then 785 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,640 we're going to turn on that guy and be like, there's no way 786 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,200 Crystal lava should be. I mean, we're kind of having 787 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,120 that discussion with Drake London, which is kind of Fair 788 00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,160 enough with Drake London, but like, tell me what's to put 789 00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,480 there then? And you can't do it because 790 00:40:57,480 --> 00:41:00,080 there's no one else. There's no, there's no one. 791 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:04,560 These are the guys I take over I I'm going to end up in my 792 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,880 rankings. I have waddle in this range. 793 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,440 Now obviously I'm not going to take waddle here every time 794 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:11,880 because that's not the way to play. 795 00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,320 I think that's fair. I think Waddle. 796 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:16,760 I think Waddle's in this tier. But I think, I think for me, 797 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,280 London, Debo, Adams and Waddle, that's like my tier. 798 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,360 That's like who I that's like who I want to take. 799 00:41:24,880 --> 00:41:28,040 I'm kind of so Sean Segal. We should pull up where he has 800 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,480 Adams because it it was it was it was kind of nuts and he had 801 00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,920 me kind of second guessing it before the draft and then with 802 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:39,800 them taking Bowers which which signals them running the boat. 803 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,440 Sam you're just saying they you they want to build a plane out 804 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:44,400 as Amir White. That doesn't mean a lot of 805 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,200 passing volume. They're going to run a lot of 12 806 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,600 personnel which may be good for Adams in terms of like yards per 807 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,880 out run and stuff but I I just don't think there'd be that much 808 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,640 volume there. Also you put the the Raiders 809 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:58,520 pretty high on the list of implosion candidates definitely. 810 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,200 So I and he's older. He doesn't want to be there. 811 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:04,600 You know he they're going to cut him after the season or trade 812 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,920 him for sure. The cap hits like they save 30 813 00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:10,040 million by getting rid of him. Like he just be like, I'm done, 814 00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:11,920 I'll see. I'm going to go play for someone 815 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:15,800 else next year, like Adam. Adam scares me in the second 816 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:17,120 round, like legitimately. Scares me. 817 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:19,560 That was the that was the thesis last year. 818 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,240 His people like, oh, he's the quarterback to play. 819 00:42:21,240 --> 00:42:23,120 He's going to be terrible. He's not going to want to be out 820 00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,480 there. And he was good. 821 00:42:25,880 --> 00:42:28,080 Yeah, he was. But I mean, we're just going to 822 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,400 keep running this back until. I mean, I mean blow up this. 823 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:34,840 Is a 30 something wide receiver in a horrendous situation? 824 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:39,120 Like the thing, the thing that nuts out is that is that, I mean 825 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:42,680 I'm going to keep this alive that he could get traded at any 826 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:44,640 point. That basically it's just like 827 00:42:44,640 --> 00:42:47,600 he's just like look dude, can we just can we just. 828 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,360 If the Raiders were rational, they would they would trade him. 829 00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,240 I mean, they're A-Team going nowhere, just just get what you 830 00:42:54,240 --> 00:42:56,360 can recoup from Devon to. Adams and there are, there are. 831 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,240 They're not gonna think like that for him to go. 832 00:42:58,280 --> 00:42:59,880 There are plenty of spots for him to go. 833 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,040 Yeah, but he's got so it's tough for them to trade him this year. 834 00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:06,520 He's got forty 40 million. It's crazy. 835 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,760 It's crazy salary wise. It's crazy. 836 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,480 It's insane like, and they're not doing it. 837 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:14,040 Like you're asking Mark Davis to like, yeah, like like do 838 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,720 something really sharp and unconventional like, no, he's 839 00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:17,840 not. He's not gonna do it. 840 00:43:18,240 --> 00:43:23,360 So I I I think like I understand that I'm making that I'm 841 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:28,160 basically drafting like the three O 2 at pick 14 when I take 842 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:32,640 Drake London or Crystal Lavay or whatever, but like these are. 843 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:34,480 Talented, But like, so is everyone else. 844 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:35,600 Everyone else. So is everyone else. 845 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,560 Same thing. Yes, these are these are 846 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,720 talented wide receiver ones on their team like they they 847 00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:44,720 probably shouldn't go quite this high but we no one has any 848 00:43:44,720 --> 00:43:48,240 question about the talent of Crystal Lavay of Drake London. 849 00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,040 These guys are good. Brandon Iuk, right. 850 00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,080 They're young they're good. Debo fits. 851 00:43:53,080 --> 00:43:55,960 I I have no no issues with Debo. Jalen Waddle like he's not in a 852 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:57,880 wide receiver one I guess. But there's, well, the right 853 00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,840 way. To think about this is the right 854 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,920 way to think about this is what would their like? 855 00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:08,600 Think about their week 17 stuff. Think about their like these 856 00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,800 guys are are insane giga ceilings. 857 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,720 Like if I told you Chris Olave had 32 underdog points in week 858 00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:17,160 17, you'd be like well it's a lot of points but probably 859 00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,600 Drake. London won fourteen and two 860 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,200 touchdowns in week 17. You're like definitely like 861 00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,760 you're you're drafting guys don't even have to squint. 862 00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,520 Debo same same deal. Adams I mean Adams like is the 863 00:44:30,000 --> 00:44:33,560 averaging about 97 fantasy points per game in week 17 the 864 00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:37,360 last two years like. Which is kind of what I tell 865 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:40,680 myself when I make these Round 2 picks that do not feel good, 866 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,560 where I'm just like, yeah, they're they're, they definitely 867 00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:47,360 are not great bets to be the wide receiver 10 at the end of 868 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:50,240 the season or to be the 15th highest scoring player, but they 869 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,200 are going to have very good single game ceilings. 870 00:44:54,240 --> 00:44:55,480 Yeah, I agree. Yeah. 871 00:44:56,160 --> 00:45:00,200 The one thing I'll add on on Crystal Ave. is I've been 872 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:03,280 looking at some data on pre snap motion stuff and I thought this 873 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:07,800 was interesting. So the new OC for the Saints was 874 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:10,880 the San Francisco 49ers pass game coordinator last year, 875 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,720 Clint Kubiak. San Francisco led the league 876 00:45:13,720 --> 00:45:17,800 last year in percent of pass plays with a player in motion at 877 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:21,760 the snap. And dead last on this list was 878 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:23,200 New Orleans. So. 879 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,560 They're bringing in. Entirely, yeah. 880 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:29,120 An entirely different offensive philosophy, assuming that that 881 00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:32,280 sort of Shanahan tree carries over and. 882 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,280 It always does. It always does. 883 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,160 The Shanahan stuff always carries. 884 00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:40,120 So yeah, I really would. You know who's dad was? 885 00:45:40,120 --> 00:45:43,520 You know, like this dude. This dude's part of the tree. 886 00:45:44,000 --> 00:45:45,480 He's part of the tree. Yeah. 887 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:49,400 Yeah, exactly. And I've still like I. 888 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,360 Think I just moved for CG. He'd 20 spots up my rankings 889 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:54,960 seeing this. I I was excited about that. 890 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,960 That's a good pick. Yeah, we did see last year this 891 00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,760 chart. It doesn't have Chris Olave on 892 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:05,160 it, but I plotted here the wide receivers who ran the most plays 893 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:11,160 where they were in motion at the snap and it sorted by the 894 00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:13,080 percent of routes in which they were doing that. 895 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,760 So you see Tyree Kill Tutu Atwell, Keenan Allen, he was an 896 00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:19,000 interesting one. I didn't really realize Puka 897 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,520 Nakua Kubrakov. Those guys are on here too. 898 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:25,680 And mostly what you see is the players yards per yards per 899 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,840 route run when they're in motion at the snap. 900 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,120 A lot of these guys see huge spikes in production. 901 00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:35,720 Puka Nakua is a big one. He actually had five yards per 902 00:46:35,720 --> 00:46:38,920 route run, per SIS data when he was in motion at the snap. 903 00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:42,080 So we do see crazy. It doesn't work for everyone. 904 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:43,680 Like there's some people on this list that. 905 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,960 Actually, anyone who's watched the CFL understands if you get a 906 00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,920 running start, it's way better. They, I mean, they literally 907 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:51,960 call it, yeah, they call it Cheat Motion. 908 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,320 They, that's what. Yeah, they call it like 909 00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:54,520 cheating. Yeah. 910 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:59,000 So if we get Shaheed and Olave, I mean again this chart, they 911 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,280 were the least creative offense last year. 912 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:03,640 Doing that with I forget who was OC. 913 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:07,240 What if What if Taysom is the Cheat motion guy? 914 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:14,080 Have you thought about it? Davis I don't think like they 915 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,400 they can't handle, they can't handle Taysom Hills the cheat. 916 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,360 What would happen? What would happen to the FPC if 917 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:25,720 quarterback eligible Taysom Hill was the Cheat Motion guy? 918 00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:31,040 What if, because they use enough cheap motion, they change him 919 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,960 back to tight end after the season? 920 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,280 No, they they do it. It's it's Week 3 and they 921 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,480 decide, you know what they changed His positional 922 00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:40,880 designation, tight end, believe it or not. 923 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,800 Also, another thing about this chart that's crazy is New 924 00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,560 England was actually high up in this their 4th and they still 925 00:47:50,560 --> 00:47:58,200 sucked. I mean, the Patriots were dead 926 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:01,280 last point scored last year, and they were cheating. 927 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,040 That's because they were using, they were using Juju on the 928 00:48:05,080 --> 00:48:07,240 cheat motion. Yeah, yeah, it doesn't. 929 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,560 It doesn't work. Devante Parker. 930 00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:12,200 You can get Devante Parker running at the snap. 931 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,880 It doesn't help him get up to any speed at all actually. 932 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:18,160 Lowers his yards per hour. Yeah, he just gets tired. 933 00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:19,560 He just kind of gets gas out there. 934 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:22,240 He. Has to run his route. 935 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:26,880 Yeah, I I do think there's a lot of interesting stuff with this, 936 00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:30,880 but like the Miami ones, like 70% that that helped me 937 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,680 understand a little bit more. Like even in healthy games for 938 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,560 Tyreke and Jalen Waddle, when they're only running like 80% of 939 00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,800 the routes, it's 'cause like on half of Tyreke's plays he's 940 00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,520 fucking like sprinting across the formation like multiple 941 00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:47,000 times before the snap, like. It's also why his yards per 942 00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,320 route, his yards per route run numbers are fake. 943 00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:54,200 Well, yeah, I mean, I guess they're fake, but they're like, 944 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:56,120 potentially sustainable. So sure. 945 00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:58,280 Sure, yeah. But they're they're they are 946 00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:00,000 fake. I mean they, I think it is 947 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,960 sustainable, but they are fake. But it's like, I mean, to the 948 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,080 point of them being fake, we're kind of these, these two 949 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,760 offenses are sort of shifting things towards almost the 950 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,040 running back position and sort of like how schemed up a touch 951 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:16,320 can be. You know, for a wide receiver, 952 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,560 like if you've got Tyreek in motion, he's running. 953 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,240 The whole play is designed to get him the ball. 954 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:25,040 And he's got this big edge on his defender, 'cause he got to, 955 00:49:25,360 --> 00:49:27,160 you know, he got to run across the formation. 956 00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,080 And they've now figured out ways. 957 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:32,400 McDaniel, you know, adjusted it so that he's doing a quicker 958 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,320 version of this so that the the defense can't key on it. 959 00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,200 Why is it important that the defense doesn't key on it, 960 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,960 'cause the ball's going to Tyriq, the ball's going to 961 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,920 Tyriq, and they don't want them to be able to shut down that 962 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:46,360 play. It's like kind of taking that 963 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:51,120 extended hand off idea another step further, which you know the 964 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,360 target per route run. It would be interesting to see 965 00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,720 the target per route run on these types of routes because 966 00:49:55,720 --> 00:49:58,400 it's got to be super high. The whole point is to get the 967 00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,240 guy doing this the ball. Exactly. 968 00:50:01,240 --> 00:50:03,080 Yeah, I'm gonna. I'm working on an article on all 969 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:04,840 this stuff. Probably won't be out for a 970 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:07,440 little while, but I do think that spikes as well. 971 00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:10,400 Last thing on a lava here. He's not on this chart, but he 972 00:50:10,400 --> 00:50:14,920 ran just 35 routes in motion last year at the snap. 973 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,520 Again, New Orleans was like in the dark ages in terms of 974 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:21,560 implementing the stuff, but on those 35 routes, he had nearly 6 975 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,040 yards per route run. So that suggests obviously 976 00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:28,240 really small sample that suggests I think he's quite 977 00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:30,200 effective on this type of play. I mean, it makes sense. 978 00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,560 He's a smaller guy really fast. It would make sense that it'd 979 00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:35,840 fit into the archetype of player where this would be a big 980 00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:39,880 benefit to him, that that's like, if you need to sell 981 00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:42,920 yourself on a sealing case for crystal lava, it's like just a 982 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,640 revolutionized offense in terms of what type of concepts they're 983 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:47,720 using under a better offensive coordinator. 984 00:50:47,720 --> 00:50:50,480 And I I think that's certainly possible in New Orleans. 985 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:55,400 Let's get to the fallers here. Kyron Williams. 986 00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,240 Yeah. We can't talk to Tyron Tracy. 987 00:50:58,840 --> 00:50:59,920 We can talk to. Tyron the risers. 988 00:50:59,920 --> 00:51:00,880 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 989 00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:03,000 We can talk to Tyron Tracy. This is your guy who's still a 990 00:51:03,000 --> 00:51:05,360 dollar. This is the dude who's still a 991 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:07,560 dollar. And and if you're if you're 992 00:51:07,560 --> 00:51:11,280 everyone else is hammering Vidal who I you can still take him as 993 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,360 I just said so but mix mix in Tyron Tracy because I could see 994 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:18,080 the steam on him getting a little eye control. 995 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:21,440 I mean he plays special teams he's going to be active you know 996 00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:24,440 the the Isaiah Pacheco thesis that we had a couple years back 997 00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,400 he's in play here Devin Singletary is extremely weak 998 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,280 starter. He catches passes he's athletic. 999 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:32,760 He's versatile. He's big. 1000 00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:35,840 Like, you're not huge, but he's like 209, so he's not like a 1001 00:51:35,840 --> 00:51:39,040 little, you know, 181 LB Scat back. 1002 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,520 Like he could actually be the lead back for the Giants down 1003 00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,720 the stretch. Draft some Tyrone Tracy. 1004 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,000 Aren't you worried about Eric Gray? 1005 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,600 Favorite. No, I'm not worried about Eric 1006 00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:54,080 Gray. Once I saw once I saw Josh 1007 00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:59,960 Norris, Comp Tyrone Tracy to David Johnson, it it was like it 1008 00:51:59,960 --> 00:52:02,160 was a real come to Jesus moment for me. 1009 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,640 What was? I'm just, I'm so pissed they 1010 00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:07,600 didn't have Tyrone Tracy in the pre draft stuff. 1011 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,320 I still can't get over that. Well, we know this is an edge. 1012 00:52:10,320 --> 00:52:12,160 Michael Wilson was. It was an edge last year. 1013 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:13,280 It wasn't in the pre draft stuff. 1014 00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:15,080 Yeah, that's true. Yeah, probably. 1015 00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,320 I probably did help his ADP be better now, yeah? 1016 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:22,120 Or lower. Josh Norris comped Tyrone Tracy 1017 00:52:22,120 --> 00:52:24,960 to David Johnson. So I was just like, wow. 1018 00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:28,120 I mean, he Wow. I mean, Johnson had 20 lbs on 1019 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:29,600 Tracy, but. Correct. 1020 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,000 Sure, you know, but stylistically? 1021 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,200 Stylistically, yeah. Guy who guy's really good at 1022 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:36,280 running routes, all that. Stuff. 1023 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,520 He was like truly a converted receiver. 1024 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:40,320 Like when you watch his highlights and stuff, he's like, 1025 00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:42,920 they don't hand the ball off to the running back and then the 1026 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:44,600 running back like runs out of frame. 1027 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,440 You're like, what's going on and what's going on? 1028 00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:48,640 Oh shit. Yeah, Tyler Tracy's down there 1029 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,160 playing receiver. Just a legitimate any player 1030 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:55,200 who's converted anything. I am just a Slappy 4 like it. 1031 00:52:55,240 --> 00:52:56,720 It just sounds so. Much cooler to me. 1032 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,440 It's just it's just so much cooler. 1033 00:53:00,920 --> 00:53:04,480 This quarterback converted to wide receiver in say no man I I 1034 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,880 just yeah immediately. Running back converted to wide 1035 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:08,040 receiver. Wide receiver converted to 1036 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,120 running back. Former linebacker Let's play in 1037 00:53:10,120 --> 00:53:11,840 running back. Oh my God doesn't. 1038 00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:13,200 Matter. That's ADP. 1039 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,880 We got to start a A a league where you can only play players 1040 00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,720 who converted from other positions tight in one. 1041 00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,720 Ryan Danhill gets drafted as the quarterback one. 1042 00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:26,240 Yeah, sign, Yeah. Ryan, even though he doesn't 1043 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:27,800 play, he's still he's got to draft him. 1044 00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,200 What if he plays? You got to draft him. 1045 00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:33,960 It's the first round pick, Kyron Williams. 1046 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,520 He's an interesting one. Or Davis. 1047 00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,640 Did you have final thoughts on Tyrone Tracy? 1048 00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,720 No, I mean, I just, I think he's a very good example of the, if 1049 00:53:43,720 --> 00:53:46,120 you like him, draft him now, even if he might be a zero, 1050 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:49,960 because once there's any kind of steam behind him at all, people 1051 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,640 don't like Devon Singletary. So he just is going to go way 1052 00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:53,480 up. Yeah, yeah. 1053 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:56,440 Yeah. And look, I mean, the reason we 1054 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:58,200 wouldn't be drafting him is because, like, he might not even 1055 00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:02,240 be the RB2, but the special team stuff in the like, total lack of 1056 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,920 anything on this depth chart. I mean, he he's. 1057 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,000 Breeded Not even on the team anymore. 1058 00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:09,920 Yeah. I mean this, yeah, this team 1059 00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,280 was, they don't have any faith in Eric Gray. 1060 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,280 I mean, they're playing Matt Breeda pretty consistently over 1061 00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,480 him last year. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's 1062 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,080 Tracy's job to lose and he's one of the, he's one of the 1063 00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:24,560 ambiguous RB twos if you want to call him that, that I'm 1064 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:25,880 certainly willing to draft right now. 1065 00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:31,800 I think it's, I think it's fine. Kyron Williams down 7 spots. 1066 00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:35,120 This is obviously the reaction to the Blake quorum draft. 1067 00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:38,200 Curious what you guys think. What do you guys think? 1068 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:40,800 I think this conversation starts with like, what do we think 1069 00:54:40,800 --> 00:54:44,880 about the concept of, like, Sean McVeigh being ideologically 1070 00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:47,000 committed to workhorse backs like. 1071 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:49,000 How? How definitely do you guys? 1072 00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:50,760 Think that is. He definitely is. 1073 00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:56,800 I I feel like 97% confident. That is his preference. 1074 00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:02,040 I so I do think that compared to the average coach, Sean McVeigh 1075 00:55:02,040 --> 00:55:04,440 is more likely to use a workhorse. 1076 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:10,120 I do think I I dug into their running back stuff from 2020 to 1077 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:12,680 2022. Obviously before that, Todd 1078 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:15,480 Gurley was a pretty big workhorse in that offense. 1079 00:55:15,480 --> 00:55:19,520 But in 2020 it was mostly a three-way committee of 1080 00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:21,840 Henderson, Malcolm Brown and Akers. 1081 00:55:21,840 --> 00:55:25,120 Now, by the playoffs, the NFL playoffs, Akers became the 1082 00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,960 worst. Sam, if you go back and look 1083 00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:30,640 like he would like start different guys and try and 1084 00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:35,480 remember in 2022 he benched. Was it Henderson or Akers for 1085 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,120 Ronnie Rivers? They were like, OK, we're going 1086 00:55:37,120 --> 00:55:38,680 to go with Ronnie Rivers in this game. 1087 00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:40,120 And then Ronnie Rivers was awful. 1088 00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:43,920 It's like he definitely, he definitely prefers to have a 1089 00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,160 guy. Then he just gets sick of the 1090 00:55:46,160 --> 00:55:48,200 guy. Yeah, Acres is actually a good 1091 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,840 example of him doing this. That season when when Acres 1092 00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,800 became the guy, they installed Acres, we had. 1093 00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,920 Acres was a a stand for us in the FFPC playoff challenge, 1094 00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,280 'cause I was like, this is they're gonna like try to ride 1095 00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:01,680 Acres. Basically. 1096 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:04,600 If they win, it's probably because they like ride Acres, 1097 00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:06,960 which is what happened. They beat the Seahawks with 1098 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:10,200 Acres as a workhorse. He looked really good as as a 1099 00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,320 rookie. Then he tore his his Achilles. 1100 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:19,000 So that to me kind of goes as part of the thesis that that he 1101 00:56:19,120 --> 00:56:22,440 like, wanted Akers to be what Kyron is now. 1102 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:25,080 I think that helps Kyron a little bit. 1103 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:28,280 It is concerning that Blake Korum is basically just a Kyron 1104 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:32,200 clone it and it creates downside for Kyron. 1105 00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:34,800 What if Blake Korum gets a chance because Kyron gets banged 1106 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,120 up, He's undersized, he comes in, he's doing awesome. 1107 00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,880 Does Kyron get his job back? He he might not. 1108 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,840 He might not. Kyron's good. 1109 00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,720 I don't know that he's amazing. It just kind of creates some. 1110 00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:48,800 It creates like devastating downside risk. 1111 00:56:49,400 --> 00:56:52,720 That's it's like I think he's probably, I think he's probably 1112 00:56:52,720 --> 00:56:56,560 a good pick like he's way better like he's better than the 1113 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,720 average pick in the second round to pay off his odds. 1114 00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,520 But the down the downside risk is you just straight up drafted 1115 00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:06,640 a handcuff in the second round. Just like straight up drafted a 1116 00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:10,600 guy the team does not is not going to play like. 1117 00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:16,000 And maybe that's only like 5%, but it's it's it's 100% higher 1118 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:22,080 than 0 legendary downside. Legendary Legendary Downside can 1119 00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:24,160 be a fun article. What is it? 1120 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,720 What am I describing? Legendary downside? 1121 00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:28,320 Like what Kyron's doing in his free time? 1122 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,560 Like on the bench. Like in Week 3, Kyron has a 1123 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,920 conversation about he's not fucking on the field. 1124 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,000 If there, yeah. If there's a guy in the second 1125 00:57:39,000 --> 00:57:43,440 round where like in two years we like do a remember this guy's 1126 00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,960 conversation and Kyra Williams is like already. 1127 00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,520 I remember this guy like like or or it's like the Kenyan Drake 1128 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:52,160 thing. Like remember that year we all 1129 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:55,400 had collective delusion Kenyan Drake was like the 15th overall 1130 00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,800 pick like that. Again, I agree with you guys 1131 00:57:57,800 --> 00:58:00,480 that that's not a likely outcome, but like none of the 1132 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,240 wide receivers going near him or even like you can say Barkley is 1133 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:07,480 a bad pick, but he does not have nearly the downside that like 1134 00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,400 Barkley's not losing his job to Tyrone Tracy or whatever, right? 1135 00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,320 Like. I have Kyron well behind Barkley 1136 00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:15,040 now. Yeah. 1137 00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:20,000 The year that Cam Akers tore his Achilles in the preseason, it 1138 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,920 was really early on, but he opened up, I believe. 1139 00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:24,440 I think it was that the best ball mania. 1140 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,040 One year it might have been better. 1141 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:28,440 Too. Yeah, it might. 1142 00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,120 It you think it was been best Ball Mania 2. 1143 00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,120 He was a 12 turn pick before he tore his Achilles like like 1144 00:58:35,120 --> 00:58:36,600 we've already. That's right, we've already. 1145 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:39,760 Done this? Yeah, that's a. 1146 00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,840 Great point. I'm not saying I'm like, oh, I 1147 00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,600 can't wait to fade Kyren. Like I don't like, I don't want 1148 00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:49,720 to. I don't want that to be the 1149 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:52,560 brand. But I don't really find myself 1150 00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,120 clicking him. At all. 1151 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,360 The last thing is. I took him before the draft, but 1152 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,840 third round pick on a guy who's like exactly the same as him. 1153 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:02,440 Yeah. When they they do the press 1154 00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,240 conference and he's like so you know that guy Kyron it's he's 1155 00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,040 kind of like he's that it's like that it's. 1156 00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,480 Literally, the press conference, it's like we basically saw 1157 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:11,960 Kyron, which we really liked, like, Oh no. 1158 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:16,080 Yeah, yeah, yeah. The last thing I'll say on Kyron 1159 00:59:16,080 --> 00:59:20,400 is go back through. I I do agree with you guys again 1160 00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:24,040 that like McVeigh is, I do think he prefers to work horseback. 1161 00:59:24,520 --> 00:59:26,840 Go go through the past three years, there were a lot more 1162 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,760 games than I remember of like Malcolm Brown, 40% snaps, Daryl 1163 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:34,880 Henderson 40% snaps, someone else 20%, like there's a lot of 1164 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:36,720 that in there. He hated. 1165 00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:41,040 He's not insane like he he hated Daryl Henderson and had to play 1166 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:42,920 him for the position that. Exactly. 1167 00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:46,200 But I'm saying if he if he equally likes Blake Horan and 1168 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,360 Kyron Williams, I don't think like a split here is off the 1169 00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:50,640 table. Sure, yeah. 1170 00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:51,720 It's not completely off the table. 1171 00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:54,560 No, but he would. I think he feels more 1172 00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:56,360 comfortable with having a guy out there, yeah. 1173 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,920 It is two straight years where Kyron Williams hasn't been able 1174 00:59:59,920 --> 01:00:02,760 to stay on the he was on IR both years in his league, in the 1175 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,240 league so far. I mean, maybe that factors into 1176 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:08,960 it a little bit. A smaller guy, but anyways. 1177 01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:11,840 He's Colonel guy. Like, you know, like if the 1178 01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,960 health is a reason where teams are like, OK, you just can't 1179 01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:15,920 stay on the field. I don't know. 1180 01:00:16,080 --> 01:00:17,880 But look at Blake. Blake stays on the field all the 1181 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:19,840 time. We love Blake looking like 1182 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,680 that's. It's like the the Elijah 1183 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:22,920 Mitchell thing. In SF it's. 1184 01:00:22,960 --> 01:00:26,240 Not his fault, yeah, but that's, I mean that's that we, we know 1185 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:29,240 that stuff like that happens. Shout out, shout out to to 1186 01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:33,800 episode 100 of this guy's really this 49ers handcuff running 1187 01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:35,120 back? You want that we're gonna do 1188 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:38,840 with Isaac Girendo this year when it's just gonna be Elijah 1189 01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,880 Mitchell again? It's gonna be Elijah Mitchell 1190 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,200 again. Yeah, Tyrion, Davis, Bryce. 1191 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:46,480 Oh God. Trey Serman. 1192 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,280 Isaac Renda was the the Joe Williams Memorial pick in the 1193 01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,960 fourth round. San Francisco, They always have 1194 01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:55,760 to draft running back in the third or fourth round that they 1195 01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:57,240 never intend to give a. Kid. 1196 01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,320 Even Kyle Shanahan's joking about it. 1197 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:02,440 Did you see that little? Clip Yeah, he's like, sometimes 1198 01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:04,440 we draft 1/3 on running back and we hate him. 1199 01:01:04,440 --> 01:01:07,080 We send him to Siberia. He never sees the field. 1200 01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:10,920 Cody Schrader is a better running back than the 100%. 1201 01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:12,200 They drafted, that's what he said. 1202 01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,320 He goes, we're pilot, take a running back in the third round, 1203 01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:15,960 He won't work out. Then we'll draft a guy in the 1204 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:17,120 sixth round. He's the real one. 1205 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,560 And then they did it, Cody. Schrader is legit like like so 1206 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:24,440 much more like Guerrendo, like barely could play at like a a 1207 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:28,440 Louisville and Guerrendo was like led the SEC in rushing or 1208 01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:30,840 Schrader led the SEC. Yeah, Schrader, yeah, yeah. 1209 01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:33,880 Yeah, yeah. All right. 1210 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,160 Rasheed Rice, I'm kind of. I'm kind of exhausted by this 1211 01:01:37,160 --> 01:01:39,920 conversation already this long. Season and it's all in. 1212 01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:42,000 We don't need to do it anymore. All in. 1213 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,360 I'm also. All in, yeah. 1214 01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,400 All right, draft. I'm almost in the. 6th round 1215 01:01:47,400 --> 01:01:48,960 guys. Yeah, just do it. 1216 01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,320 Yeah, I think again, no one knows anything. 1217 01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:54,840 I think what we're getting is like a four, five game 1218 01:01:54,840 --> 01:01:58,640 suspension. Then at this price he's fine and 1219 01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,360 there's definitely ways. He just has like a two or 1220 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,200 three-game suspension too, at which point he's a pretty big 1221 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,960 discount, so. Yeah, the NFL is going to have 1222 01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:09,560 to prove to me that they're willing to suspend Rashi Rice 1223 01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:13,440 for half a season. I just, it's not at the way the 1224 01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,000 NFL has typically handled this type of stuff. 1225 01:02:16,040 --> 01:02:21,520 And I know it's possible it's it's not fully priced in if it 1226 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,000 is half. Every pick he gets cheaper means 1227 01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,200 it matters less that he misses games at the beginning of the 1228 01:02:26,200 --> 01:02:28,800 season if he is playing at the end of the season. 1229 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:34,040 Yeah, which he will be. Though I I guess to not 1230 01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:38,240 completely you know just go by this conversation what do you I 1231 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,000 I was trying to think of reasons to like be out on rice. 1232 01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:44,120 What do you think of the possibility that like say say it 1233 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,800 is a six game suspension. That seems like close to worst 1234 01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:51,800 case right they have six weeks of Mahomes building rapport with 1235 01:02:51,800 --> 01:02:55,160 Xavier Worthy Marquis Brown. I do think there are still 1236 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,640 legitimate questions of, like how complete of a wide receiver 1237 01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:01,920 Rashi Rice is. And you could, you could make 1238 01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,880 the argument that, like, he was just kind of the best of a bunch 1239 01:03:05,880 --> 01:03:08,240 of terrible options last year, right? 1240 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:10,600 You know, MVS, Sky, Morgadarius, Tony. 1241 01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,840 Is there anything to that where you think he could lose his 1242 01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:16,840 rhythm and the offence if he's suspended? 1243 01:03:16,920 --> 01:03:20,120 You know, maybe not being used in the preseason, all that stuff 1244 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,320 at the end of the season. So here's the downside. 1245 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:28,080 So here's the upside case for rice is that but it it sort of 1246 01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,680 flips into the downside case. But one of the things that that 1247 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:34,200 I like about Rice is that he didn't have all that high of a 1248 01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:36,400 first read target rate last year. 1249 01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,720 The offense wasn't really designed to go through him. 1250 01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,400 Even as he got on the field and had a really high targets per 1251 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:45,040 outrun, he still wasn't seeing a super high first read target 1252 01:03:45,040 --> 01:03:46,720 rate. A lot of the he. 1253 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:48,880 Was the bailout guy? He was the bailout guy. 1254 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,440 A lot of the targets that he ended up getting, someone else 1255 01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:56,640 didn't get open and Rice found him, found spots where Mahomes 1256 01:03:56,640 --> 01:03:58,840 was able to to find him. And I think this is part of the 1257 01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:04,560 reason why his his adot was so low is that he was you know 1258 01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:08,560 finding a spot fairly shallow where Pat Mahomes could get him 1259 01:04:08,560 --> 01:04:10,720 the ball on some of these later reads in the progression. 1260 01:04:11,680 --> 01:04:14,320 That is pretty appealing to me though when you're going OK, 1261 01:04:14,320 --> 01:04:16,640 this is a rookie. He was highly efficient. 1262 01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,560 He had a connection with his quarterback. 1263 01:04:18,800 --> 01:04:20,600 He wasn't even getting that money first reads. 1264 01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,840 What's the what's probably the one of the main things driving 1265 01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,840 second year breakouts, you know from a high level across the 1266 01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,880 league. It's the fact they install more 1267 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,200 place for these guys in year two and. 1268 01:04:32,840 --> 01:04:35,320 And they're just a bunch of anti, fragile ways that he 1269 01:04:35,320 --> 01:04:37,280 benefits. Like maybe worthy bus. 1270 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,200 Maybe Travis Kelsey really is like, just like can't get it 1271 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,720 going in the regular season. Like maybe organizationally they 1272 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,840 know they can count on him for the playoffs, but there's just 1273 01:04:45,840 --> 01:04:48,440 no reason to target him in the regular season. 1274 01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,200 Maybe Hollywood. I mean, look at some of the wide 1275 01:04:51,200 --> 01:04:54,200 receiver contracts out there. Like DJ Shark just signed a 1276 01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,960 contract that's basically the same as Hollywood Browns. 1277 01:04:56,960 --> 01:04:59,280 Like maybe Hollywood just like is just dust. 1278 01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,920 Like, they're just. And I'm not saying any of these 1279 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:04,360 things is. I'm not saying any of these 1280 01:05:04,360 --> 01:05:08,400 things are true, but they're all within the realm of possibility. 1281 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,960 All that being said, I don't believe any of them. 1282 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:13,680 I mean, I'm just going to be, I'm just going to be taking a 1283 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:16,160 shit ton of this guy. I'm taking Worthy, I'm taking 1284 01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,920 Hollywood, I'm taking Kelsey, I'm taking Pacheco, I'm taking 1285 01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:20,080 Clyde. My. 1286 01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,240 Unbiased thanks right here. No, I I'm 100. 1287 01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:26,080 For the show you said you took Kadarius, Tony. 1288 01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:27,800 I took Kadarius, Tony in a draft today. 1289 01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,320 I like the the the Chiefs are. The Chiefs are going to score 28 1290 01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,160 points a game again and you are going to want their players in 1291 01:05:35,160 --> 01:05:38,360 fantasy football. Well here's here's the so I made 1292 01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:41,000 the the upside case, right. He didn't get that many first 1293 01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,480 retards. He had a shallow 8 up. 1294 01:05:42,960 --> 01:05:45,480 He's kind of just a bailout guy. But now year two, he'll get the 1295 01:05:45,480 --> 01:05:47,080 first retard. Well, if he suspended for half 1296 01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:51,280 the season, are they going to install that many more plays for 1297 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:52,280 them? They just signed Worthy. 1298 01:05:52,280 --> 01:05:55,200 They just signed Marcus Brown. So now you end up in a situation 1299 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,920 where they're actually unrealing. 1300 01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,920 It. Yeah, they they they got to get 1301 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:02,040 their their scrum plays in there, you know so. 1302 01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:07,880 Shout out Andy Reid. I'm so bored of winning the 1303 01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:11,480 Super Bowl, I got to see if I can turn a rugby player into a 1304 01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,600 guy who could score 5 touchdowns in the end. 1305 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,000 That's where we're laughing. I was on Pete's pod this 1306 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:17,720 morning. We were laughing. 1307 01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:21,000 He's going to have to install the scrum, the scrum and get Zam 1308 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:26,480 at the ball. So anyway, so that's where you 1309 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,440 end up like, OK, now he's not the 1st St. on these plays, but 1310 01:06:29,440 --> 01:06:31,960 Worthy is getting open. Hollywood is getting open. 1311 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,760 You know those guys are helping Kelsey get open more and they 1312 01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:39,280 he's just not getting those like second, third, read targets 1313 01:06:39,280 --> 01:06:41,520 because someone else is getting open on the 1st St. 1314 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:44,400 And he he just kind of falls down the target pecking order 1315 01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:47,440 pretty easily because the offense isn't really designed to 1316 01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:49,080 go through him. It never was. 1317 01:06:49,240 --> 01:06:50,400 We're kind of betting on that to. 1318 01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:51,760 Change. I know what happened. 1319 01:06:51,840 --> 01:06:55,040 I think, I think what happened with him last year was that 1320 01:06:55,040 --> 01:06:58,400 Kelsey was way more injured than they ever let on and they 1321 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:01,680 basically were just like, dude, we just got to have someone who 1322 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:07,200 can get like 7 yards, you know? And and Bryce was more like for 1323 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:10,800 like a stock portfolio of his career. 1324 01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:14,760 I like would not be super if none of the suspension stuff 1325 01:07:14,760 --> 01:07:16,640 happened. I would not be like buying Rice 1326 01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:20,200 in Dynasty right now now because people are concerned about a 1327 01:07:20,200 --> 01:07:22,120 suspension. I mean Rice is an amazing buy in 1328 01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,720 Dynasty right now because like the upside cases is still there. 1329 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,320 But getting him at like wide receiver 40, just like, oh, it's 1330 01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:34,880 like Jackson Smith and Jigba's spot like come on like he just 1331 01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:38,240 it's just a good pick. It's just a good pick. 1332 01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:41,360 Yeah, because then like some of the downside scenarios you guys 1333 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:43,840 are talking about like oh, what if like Marquis Brown and Worthy 1334 01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:45,320 are good and they're designing place for them. 1335 01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:48,520 Well, at some level it's like, good 'cause then the Chiefs 1336 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,640 offense is like. Probably good again. 1337 01:07:50,960 --> 01:07:52,640 Right. They're progressing a lot and 1338 01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,360 scoring, yeah, Yeah. Exactly. 1339 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:57,920 Like Mahomes had an all time low in passing yardage last year 1340 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,200 relative to the past. You know four years before that. 1341 01:08:00,200 --> 01:08:04,480 Like we don't want a repeat of the Chiefs experience last year 1342 01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:07,120 necessarily if we're Hershey Rice drafter like we want the. 1343 01:08:07,120 --> 01:08:09,040 Offense to be good. You don't want that. 1344 01:08:09,040 --> 01:08:11,760 You you like, definitely do not want that. 1345 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,920 You you want there to be like 11 touchdown seasons for him. 1346 01:08:15,360 --> 01:08:17,680 You know what you're not worried about routes. 1347 01:08:17,680 --> 01:08:20,040 This dude's going to come out and run all the routes. 1348 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,680 Sky more Kataris Tony like, no, no, no. 1349 01:08:22,840 --> 01:08:26,560 These dudes, they're going to have half the season without 1350 01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:29,000 Rice means half the season with sky more. 1351 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,040 They're going to be ready to have Rice back on the. 1352 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,800 Yeah, they're going to be like buddy, thank you. 1353 01:08:32,800 --> 01:08:34,000 Thank. You. 1354 01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:38,319 OK, I I do want to address one thing and then I'm going to go 1355 01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:39,840 kick out for 10 minutes and come back. 1356 01:08:40,399 --> 01:08:43,720 Chad is making, I think, a pretty valid point that people 1357 01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:45,479 said this was going to happen with Kamara. 1358 01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:49,720 It didn't end up happening, but what if the risk comes at the 1359 01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:52,479 back half of the season? What if the NFL, just for 1360 01:08:52,479 --> 01:08:58,399 whatever decides if the suspension comes in week 131415 1361 01:08:58,399 --> 01:09:02,399 and 16, just for whatever? I mean, it's impossible to we. 1362 01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:05,439 Have to bet we have to make bets in uncertain environments. 1363 01:09:05,439 --> 01:09:09,520 In the NFL doing an extremely long suspension the back half of 1364 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:13,359 the season would be like double unprecedented and correct. 1365 01:09:13,359 --> 01:09:17,319 The fact that the chats, even floating that I think gives you 1366 01:09:17,319 --> 01:09:19,640 a sign of like where the market's head is at on this and 1367 01:09:19,640 --> 01:09:22,680 it's not fully rational. I mean, I'm not saying that's 1368 01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:27,160 impossible, but like, if no one floated it and I was the only 1369 01:09:27,160 --> 01:09:29,520 one to think about it, I'd be more nervous than. 1370 01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:31,560 If and you know what all your entries are going to lose 1371 01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,319 anyways, your entries are likely to lose anyway, so. 1372 01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,560 A lot of it matters. You're yeah, you lose money. 1373 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,600 You there's a real What do you win when you win in the with 1374 01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:40,920 Rice in the 6th. I mean this. 1375 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,920 And normally I always lose these. 1376 01:09:43,000 --> 01:09:45,760 I always lose the What do you win when you win, 'cause I'm so 1377 01:09:45,760 --> 01:09:49,240 scared of losing, but because I'm a biased Homer, this is one 1378 01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,359 spot where I can actually do the right thing. 1379 01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:54,520 It's like kind of incredible for me, you know? 1380 01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:57,960 It's like this is one spot where I actually get to do the 1381 01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:01,000 mathematically correct thing, not because I'm mathematically 1382 01:10:01,000 --> 01:10:03,360 correct, but because I'm just a giant Homer. 1383 01:10:03,480 --> 01:10:07,440 That's. Amazing. 1384 01:10:09,520 --> 01:10:12,240 It's beautiful. You'd love to see it. 1385 01:10:12,600 --> 01:10:13,880 All right. I'll see you guys in 10 minutes. 1386 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:15,120 Later all. Right. 1387 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:21,760 So we'll Davis is gonna head out to go on TV and hopefully not 1388 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,840 tell people that he's drafting Cadarius Tony. 1389 01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:25,680 Like, yeah. That stays here. 1390 01:10:25,800 --> 01:10:30,240 That stays here. OK, this is fuck. 1391 01:10:31,440 --> 01:10:35,360 I hope you didn't see that. OK, I something something 1392 01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:37,520 happened in the slides that are messed up. 1393 01:10:37,520 --> 01:10:43,680 Let me just read these out to you for Devon, a chain. 1394 01:10:44,080 --> 01:10:47,200 So again, we're doing 22 stats and a lie. 1395 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:51,480 I'm going to see 3 facts about Devon a chain, a chain I guess. 1396 01:10:51,560 --> 01:10:54,520 And Pat's going to say which one is the lie. 1397 01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:59,720 So here we go. First fact, Devon, a chain yards 1398 01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:04,000 per carry in 2023 was higher than Michael Vick's yards per 1399 01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,040 carry through his six seasons in Atlanta. 1400 01:11:06,040 --> 01:11:09,720 So prime Michael Vick, you know, toss out the Steelers Jets 1401 01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:14,680 years. Fact two is the Dolphins RB3 1402 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,400 through RB6. Last year this was Jeff Wilson. 1403 01:11:17,400 --> 01:11:20,320 Chris Brooks Sivan opmed Darrington. 1404 01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,480 Evans had more carries than Devon A chain in 2023 1405 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:29,760 cumulatively. And then the third fact is 1406 01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:34,720 Derrick Henry, Zeke Elliott and Josh Jacobs, all at higher yards 1407 01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:38,240 for route run than a chain did in 2023. 1408 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:40,240 Name of the three again is a Derrick Henry. 1409 01:11:41,160 --> 01:11:45,120 Derrick Henry, Zeke Elliott and Josh Jacobs all at higher yards 1410 01:11:45,120 --> 01:11:47,520 per route run than a chain in 2023. 1411 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,800 And this is regular season plus the playoff game. 1412 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,960 So that impacts I guess. And one of these is is not true, 1413 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:54,840 right? I have to pick one. 1414 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:58,040 One of these is a lie. So the last one I think is real 1415 01:11:58,040 --> 01:12:00,840 cause Derrick Henry's had weirdly high yards per out run. 1416 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,880 Josh Jacobs, The only thing he was decently efficient at last 1417 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:08,880 year was yards per out run, and Zeke Elliott had a weirdly high 1418 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,840 yards per hour, 'cause they used him as a little pass dump off 1419 01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,720 guy. So that one's real. 1420 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:21,520 The yards per carry I think is probably also real, 'cause his 1421 01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:26,720 yards per carry was insane. So I'll say the the carries one 1422 01:12:26,720 --> 01:12:29,160 is a lie. Yep, nailed it. 1423 01:12:30,160 --> 01:12:32,200 Yeah, his yards for outrun was just insane. 1424 01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:34,160 I was. I was shocked by this because 1425 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,320 you think of rushing quarterbacks, yards for carry 1426 01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:41,120 just being ridiculous. And you know Mike Prime, Michael 1427 01:12:41,120 --> 01:12:44,680 Vick is the top person, I think, of what I think of prime rushing 1428 01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:46,880 quarterbacks. Itching was even better than 1429 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:49,440 that, which is just insane. I mean, he was having wide 1430 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:52,720 receiver stat lines with carries last year, like 8 carries for 1431 01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,320 100 yards. Just stuff that was absolutely 1432 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:59,320 absurd. You were right that the second 1433 01:12:59,320 --> 01:13:02,520 one was a lie. A chain didn't have many touches 1434 01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:04,800 last year. Still had more than all those 1435 01:13:04,800 --> 01:13:06,960 other guys, though. It was kind of closer than I 1436 01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:10,160 thought, I guess not close enough to trip you up. 1437 01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:14,840 And then the the final thing. Well, I thought I Ahmed also, I 1438 01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,840 remember like just being out there a lot for like passing 1439 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:21,080 downs and stuff. Yeah, a lot of empty snaps. 1440 01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:25,560 For him, a lot of empty snaps. Yeah, the last one I think is 1441 01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:29,120 like interesting to talk about when we talk about a chain's ADP 1442 01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:34,720 now is I was a little surprised about his receiving efficiency. 1443 01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,720 I guess just in my head I was like oh a chain was an awesome 1444 01:13:38,720 --> 01:13:40,720 receiver last year. He's going to get a lot of work 1445 01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:44,520 in the passing game. It it it was a bit of a mixed 1446 01:13:44,520 --> 01:13:46,280 bag. But again, running backyards for 1447 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:50,720 outrun can fluctuate a ton season to season. 1448 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,520 I would be pretty surprised if a chain didn't like, come back 1449 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:57,920 next year and have a pretty good number here, but curious what 1450 01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:00,360 your thoughts are on his like, receiving profile. 1451 01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,120 Is that like a red flag to you at all in where he's going in 1452 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:05,720 the second round of drafts? Because I know for your 1453 01:14:05,720 --> 01:14:09,400 legendary upside stuff, you're really looking at receptions for 1454 01:14:09,400 --> 01:14:11,400 running backs to hit that legendary upside ceiling. 1455 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:18,120 Yeah, he I don't think he's like inefficient to the point where 1456 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,920 it would be a red flag, but it's probably not how he gets there. 1457 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:24,480 You're basically betting on him to be hyper efficient as a 1458 01:14:24,480 --> 01:14:28,160 rusher, score a bunch of touchdowns, have the offense be 1459 01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:33,720 really good and then get used. You know, somewhat versatile as 1460 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,560 you know some some receiving ability. 1461 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:41,560 It's interesting like this system is not the one that's 1462 01:14:41,560 --> 01:14:44,920 going to produce really high yards per hour run. 1463 01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:48,280 And I think you know we can use Christian McCaffrey as an 1464 01:14:48,280 --> 01:14:55,480 example of that. Where McCaffrey he had in, let's 1465 01:14:55,480 --> 01:14:58,200 see in Carolina as a second year. 1466 01:14:58,200 --> 01:15:02,720 So this one he broke out 1.77 yards per outrun 1.76 in 2019, 1467 01:15:02,720 --> 01:15:12,400 1.80 in 2022.91 in 2021. Then he gets traded to the 1468 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,480 49ers, drops 1.67. He's actually coming off his 1469 01:15:15,480 --> 01:15:19,000 lowest career yards per outrun of 1.36. 1470 01:15:20,040 --> 01:15:25,360 I think it's like to me it's like a maybe running back yards 1471 01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:26,680 per out run. I think we always kind of want 1472 01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:29,440 to be like having sort of buckets of like if you're like 1473 01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:32,800 at 0.5 like you're not doing shit if you're like from point 1474 01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:36,880 0.5 to one like don't love that anywhere from like 1:00 to like 1475 01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:40,320 1 1/2 you're you have some, you're doing some interesting 1476 01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:43,920 stuff maybe you're not like Prime McCaffrey, Prime Kamara, 1477 01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:48,040 anything over like 11.5 you're basically a star. 1478 01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,680 But it is more like, it's kind of like I think he's going to 1479 01:15:53,680 --> 01:15:56,280 have a chance for like explosiveness in the receiving 1480 01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:58,440 game. I don't think this offense is 1481 01:15:58,440 --> 01:16:01,600 going to be looking to kind of drop back, see what's there, 1482 01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,320 dump it off to the running back in a way where you might see 1483 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:08,480 like prime Brady kind of or you know, ladder have a career 1484 01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:11,000 Brady. But you know, like that type of 1485 01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,360 like breeze like that. That's not really what this 1486 01:16:13,360 --> 01:16:16,120 offense wants to be. And I don't think we get that 1487 01:16:16,120 --> 01:16:19,400 with HN, but I think super explosive player. 1488 01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,960 This yards for Outrun does indicate that he has, I think, 1489 01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:26,040 some versatility to be used in the receiving game, trying to 1490 01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:27,800 get him upfield as quickly as possible. 1491 01:16:28,520 --> 01:16:32,720 Yeah, and I I do think just like sharper offensive coordinators 1492 01:16:32,720 --> 01:16:35,560 these days are not trying to design too much for running 1493 01:16:35,560 --> 01:16:38,280 backs in the passing game. I think that's why you see a 1494 01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,920 chain with a lower yards for outrun years because when 1495 01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:43,640 they're passing, they're scheming up Tyree Kill and Jalen 1496 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:47,600 Waddle and I don't think it's necessarily Tua's strength like 1497 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,720 you know, like you would see with Brady with Breeze. 1498 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:52,880 Those guys were really skilled at, you know, if the first read, 1499 01:16:52,880 --> 01:16:55,240 second read's not there, you know, check it down to the 1500 01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,080 running back. I don't think, you know Tua's 1501 01:16:57,080 --> 01:16:58,920 processing is necessarily a strength. 1502 01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:02,800 So I think that explains why the number here is not that high for 1503 01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:04,640 a chain. But yeah, I agree with you like 1504 01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:08,120 ultimately like if he catches one screen and goes 80 yards to 1505 01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,440 the house, which we know he can do that yards for out run number 1506 01:17:11,440 --> 01:17:19,120 is going way up, so. He also he rated pretty well in 1507 01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:24,440 ESP, NS receiver rating score of 52 there Bruce Hall was at 57. 1508 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:30,040 It's not amazing but you know he was pretty solid in like that 1509 01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,800 metric. So I think he I'm looking at, 1510 01:17:32,920 --> 01:17:36,120 I'm looking for him to be a solid receiver then tackle on 1511 01:17:36,600 --> 01:17:39,840 extremely efficient rushing and that's that's how he gets there. 1512 01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:43,200 As far as like the legendary upside goes, he actually of all 1513 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:46,680 the running backs ranks second to McCaffrey this year. 1514 01:17:46,680 --> 01:17:52,240 And the Screener that I that I do, Bruce Hall is third, Bijan 1515 01:17:52,240 --> 01:17:55,000 is 4th. So he has. 1516 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:58,880 Now with HN we have to kind of tack on OK, but like what does 1517 01:17:58,880 --> 01:18:01,520 that actually look like? Can he can he get the workload 1518 01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:05,120 needed over the full season to like deliver one of these truly 1519 01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,600 legendary seasons? Probably not. 1520 01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,840 But can he do it for a couple weeks or you know, handful of 1521 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,960 weeks like 100%? He can, we know we can. 1522 01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,720 And that's that's where I think in Best Ball. 1523 01:18:18,160 --> 01:18:20,960 He really is a like such a strong pick 'cause he has access 1524 01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:25,600 to these, like these legendary Spike weeks because of the 1525 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,040 rushing, inefficiency plus receiving versatility. 1526 01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,560 Yeah, yeah. I'm with you and I agree. 1527 01:18:32,560 --> 01:18:36,200 I'm in on HN this year. I am curious, like how low the 1528 01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:38,840 price will end up getting on him. 1529 01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:42,480 I don't think it's gonna go past the third round. 1530 01:18:42,480 --> 01:18:45,800 So at that point, I don't think it really matters if you draft 1531 01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:51,040 him, you know, at pick 18, pick 22, pick 26, it's all, you know, 1532 01:18:51,040 --> 01:18:53,320 kind of the same. As long as he's not going all 1533 01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:55,440 the way around to the next, I don't think so. 1534 01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,880 Yeah, I'd be shocked. He's the type of dude. 1535 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,800 I don't think there's like a Breeze Hall for me this year 1536 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:06,080 where I'm just gonna like hammer a guy in the first five rounds. 1537 01:19:07,320 --> 01:19:11,440 If there is, it would be a Chan falling to the 3-4 turn. 1538 01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:17,520 If he was available at the 3-4 turn, I would have 30 plus 1539 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,640 percent. I mean he's just it's just 1540 01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:23,840 really hard for me to imagine how you don't take the the big 1541 01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:25,720 upside. I mean at that point he can do 1542 01:19:26,160 --> 01:19:31,440 you know what what ETN did last year and be a pretty nice hit if 1543 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:35,920 he if he delivers what he did, you know a little plus a little 1544 01:19:35,920 --> 01:19:39,920 bit more consistency. I mean it's kind of it's kind of 1545 01:19:39,920 --> 01:19:43,680 Bruce Hall from last year like you don't in the fourth round, 1546 01:19:43,720 --> 01:19:46,840 in the early fourth round you don't even we no longer need the 1547 01:19:46,840 --> 01:19:51,120 legendary upside you know a really strong season with a 1548 01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:53,960 sprinkling of Spike weeks becomes a a big hit there for 1549 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:58,440 us. So man, I would love if you fell 1550 01:19:58,440 --> 01:20:01,120 to the late 3rd even though I'm going to be loading up in the in 1551 01:20:01,120 --> 01:20:05,400 the late 2nd and early 3rd. It's with the understanding that 1552 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:08,360 if he were to fall to the 3-4 turn, I wouldn't be like, oh 1553 01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,760 God, I have all these teams. No, I've got teams that are 1554 01:20:10,760 --> 01:20:12,000 structured differently with a Chan. 1555 01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:13,480 They've got different groups of players. 1556 01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:17,240 Yeah, I paid more than people later on will pay, but these are 1557 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:18,720 going to be different types of teams. 1558 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:20,960 So I'm going to have a Chan with kind of the whole group. 1559 01:20:20,960 --> 01:20:23,440 I don't want to do that with every player, but if I think a A 1560 01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:27,360 guy can be the guy, that's pretty interesting and I think I 1561 01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:28,760 think he can be the guy, honestly. 1562 01:20:29,480 --> 01:20:31,960 Yeah, he showed that workhorse ability in in college. 1563 01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:34,280 I think that was kind of an underrated part of his profile, 1564 01:20:35,280 --> 01:20:37,520 honestly. Like, I think the main concern 1565 01:20:37,520 --> 01:20:40,440 with people with HN this year is the volume stuff. 1566 01:20:40,600 --> 01:20:44,080 For me, my bigger concern, if I was to be out on him, it 1567 01:20:44,080 --> 01:20:46,880 wouldn't be like the volume projection stuff. 1568 01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,800 It would just be like, we're in what year year two in a row of 1569 01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:55,720 the Dolphins just completely collapsing down the stretch. 1570 01:20:55,720 --> 01:20:58,680 I mean last year their their end of the season on offense was 1571 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:01,560 like pathetic. That game against the Chiefs was 1572 01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:04,160 so, so ugly. I I do think there are some 1573 01:21:04,160 --> 01:21:07,000 concerns like I think McDaniel is an awesome OC. 1574 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:11,360 He's gotten the most out of Tua. But I I do think like maybe 1575 01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:14,040 there is a ceiling there that like halfway through the season 1576 01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:17,000 it seems like these defenses have figured out and made 1577 01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:19,240 adjustments against the Dolphins offense. 1578 01:21:19,240 --> 01:21:21,640 Because yeah, it's I don't know if it's the weather. 1579 01:21:21,640 --> 01:21:24,240 I don't know if it's a defensive adjustments, but they've really 1580 01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:26,200 cratered down the stretch two years in a row. 1581 01:21:26,200 --> 01:21:30,120 So that would be my concern with Miami more broadly more so than 1582 01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:32,680 like the 8 chain volume stuff? They're definitely doing some 1583 01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,160 gimmicky stuff and people figure it out a little bit, so I that 1584 01:21:36,280 --> 01:21:39,680 that feels fair. Yeah, that's derogatory. 1585 01:21:39,680 --> 01:21:42,200 That's fair. Is that derogatory that's fair 1586 01:21:42,200 --> 01:21:43,400 or? What are we? 1587 01:21:43,600 --> 01:21:44,680 What are we doing? We're we're. 1588 01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:46,320 I I leave. Derogatory. 1589 01:21:46,880 --> 01:21:49,400 I leave for 10 minutes and you guys start fighting. 1590 01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:51,520 Devon, AJ. No, I just said I would. 1591 01:21:51,640 --> 01:21:54,400 I would be taking the hell out of him in the 3-4 turn. 1592 01:21:55,720 --> 01:21:57,760 Yeah, I'm just taking him now because. 1593 01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:00,400 I'm taking him now too. I just think of the guy who 1594 01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:05,440 demonstrably has already scored 40 points in a game multiple 1595 01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:07,400 times. I think that would be a guy. 1596 01:22:07,400 --> 01:22:10,880 I would like to advance to the the the Week 17 final 1597 01:22:10,880 --> 01:22:14,840 personally. No, I I my full take was that 1598 01:22:14,840 --> 01:22:16,880 I'm taking him in the late 2nd now. 1599 01:22:17,200 --> 01:22:18,600 I'll take him in the early third once. 1600 01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,520 I kind of know for a fact I'm getting him there every time. 1601 01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,720 If he drops the late 3rd, I'm gonna take him. 1602 01:22:23,720 --> 01:22:25,680 I'm gonna do the same thing. I'm gonna take him in the early 1603 01:22:25,680 --> 01:22:28,360 3rd. If you push him to the early 4th 1604 01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,880 to the point I know he's coming back, then I'll take him there. 1605 01:22:31,160 --> 01:22:33,240 I'm gonna ride it. I'm gonna ride it down. 1606 01:22:33,560 --> 01:22:36,480 If it goes that far 'cause I. You know what we need he. 1607 01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:38,400 Should be in the late 2nd. I think he should be in the late 1608 01:22:38,440 --> 01:22:42,160 2nd. We need a Jalen Wright drum 1609 01:22:42,160 --> 01:22:46,720 beat, steady drum beat. You know, a a a Darwin Thompson 1610 01:22:46,720 --> 01:22:51,000 esque drum beat for the entirety of the of training camp And then 1611 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:54,720 week pre, season week 1, Skylar Thompson's in their quarterback 1612 01:22:54,720 --> 01:22:58,160 hands off to Jalen Wright 67 yard touchdown, just like 1613 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:02,120 blazing down the field. And then we have to resist the 1614 01:23:02,120 --> 01:23:06,040 urge to also draft Jalen Wright. Yeah, we'll definitely do that. 1615 01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,960 Yeah, we definitely won't have 23%, Jalen, right after that. 1616 01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,240 I was thinking about this the other day. 1617 01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,760 That 53 yard Kyle Pitts reception in the preseason 1618 01:23:20,760 --> 01:23:23,760 against The Jets has probably lost me more money than any 1619 01:23:23,760 --> 01:23:27,120 other individual NFL play of all time, ever. 1620 01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:34,000 Yeah, that in the the the Calvin Ridley camp running around Sex 1621 01:23:34,000 --> 01:23:36,760 and Zay Jones. That one lost me thousands last 1622 01:23:36,760 --> 01:23:38,680 year. Jericho McKinnon kneeling on the 1623 01:23:38,680 --> 01:23:41,560 1 yard line in the Super Bowl. Pretty high up there. 1624 01:23:41,720 --> 01:23:43,840 That's Pat, That one. Literally. 1625 01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:45,200 Lost you? That's quantifiable. 1626 01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:50,560 Mahomes Mahomes on the option play to Damian Williams just 1627 01:23:50,560 --> 01:23:52,360 running into the end zone instead of pitching it to 1628 01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:54,800 Damian, not giving him his third touchdown. 1629 01:23:55,640 --> 01:23:58,960 So the Super Bowl MVP? Yeah, remember the Emir Abdullah 1630 01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:03,440 pre season Juke? Oh my God, yes, Yes, I do. 1631 01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:08,000 I mean, that's we're showing our age there a little bit, 1632 01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:11,680 remembering when Emir Abdullah was like the young, fun rookie 1633 01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,040 running back. There's a by the way, you want 1634 01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,480 to talk about guys who lost money the lost me money. 1635 01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:22,520 The Bishop Sankey he there's a play in his in his college 1636 01:24:22,520 --> 01:24:23,280 highlight. I would love to. 1637 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,000 I'd love to bring up the just bombs for Bishop Sankey. 1638 01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:30,040 If that's still up. There's a play where he jukes a 1639 01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:35,040 dude in college and this guy like get he's done and he runs 1640 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:37,320 all the way to the house. But the problem is when you zoom 1641 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:41,160 out on the play it's like a fourth and like half an inch and 1642 01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,760 so the guy's like just trying to stop the conversion. 1643 01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:45,720 And Sankey, there's like no safeties. 1644 01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:49,280 Like no one. So he just makes a guy miss 1645 01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:52,600 who's trying to prevent a short yardage game and he takes it to 1646 01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:53,680 the house. It's the only way. 1647 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:55,840 It's actually the only way he could generate explosive plays, 1648 01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,000 as it turns out. Anyway, that one lost me a lot 1649 01:24:58,000 --> 01:25:00,320 of money. God Bishop sank. 1650 01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:03,080 He he was an all time bad fantasy pick. 1651 01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:06,640 Oh, so bad. Probably probably the first 1652 01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,440 player, whoever demonstrated to me the ability that I could be 1653 01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:11,280 wrong about something, Bishop sank. 1654 01:25:11,280 --> 01:25:13,800 He was one of the first times I was ever like not only can I be 1655 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:17,400 wrong, but I can be really wrong in sort of unpredictable ways. 1656 01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:22,720 Really wrong. Yeah, that one. 1657 01:25:23,000 --> 01:25:24,840 Davis. You should repurpose. 1658 01:25:24,840 --> 01:25:27,560 That just bombs Bishop Sankey. Highlight and post it on 1659 01:25:27,560 --> 01:25:28,000 Twitter. Oh. 1660 01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:32,240 My God, yes, the people need. It the mere Doula Juke is 1661 01:25:32,240 --> 01:25:36,800 actually the one people need, 'cause it's so good, it it will, 1662 01:25:36,800 --> 01:25:39,840 it will make you think that he should have been a star in the 1663 01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:46,280 NFL. I mean still, still couldn't. 1664 01:25:46,360 --> 01:25:49,040 I mean, you know, good passing down back. 1665 01:25:49,880 --> 01:25:51,720 Here I'm gonna pull, I'm gonna send it in the private. 1666 01:25:51,760 --> 01:25:55,520 We actually should share this. OK, let me pull it up. 1667 01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:58,800 Remember when we were like, we're gonna keep ADP chasing on 1668 01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:01,520 the rails this year? And then Episode 2 I'm. 1669 01:26:01,520 --> 01:26:04,640 Sharing episode 2. 2015 Pre Season Clips. 1670 01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,520 It's a good job. Oh, Chad had a good one. 1671 01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:13,560 Remember when Daniel Jones had a breakaway 50 yard touchdown 1672 01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:15,280 rotten and just tripped over his own feet? 1673 01:26:16,360 --> 01:26:21,280 Oh yeah, that one was so good. Nice work, Chad. 1674 01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:23,320 Wait. All right. 1675 01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:29,080 Can you guys see this now? No, no, it's still we still see 1676 01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:30,920 largest fallers. Yeah. 1677 01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,000 Oh, shit. OK, hold on. 1678 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,840 Oh yeah, there we go. Yeah. 1679 01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:37,680 Now I'm not, we're not working with Pete here. 1680 01:26:37,680 --> 01:26:42,240 Here we go. OK, At this full screen, all 1681 01:26:42,240 --> 01:26:45,280 right. Tamir Abdullah. 2015. 1682 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,080 Back behind him and gets the call. 1683 01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:54,480 Oh my God. Is it there? 1684 01:26:54,480 --> 01:26:55,280 Look at this. He is. 1685 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:56,680 Can't take it to the house though. 1686 01:26:56,680 --> 01:26:59,000 Red flag in. Retrospect Not great that he 1687 01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,400 gets caught from behind. There's that four 6 speed 1688 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:07,000 showing up. There was a was there a JSN play 1689 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,360 like that from the preseason last year? 1690 01:27:08,360 --> 01:27:10,680 It was like, oh, he made a big play, but then just got caught 1691 01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,280 from behind so easily that that's the best part of the 1692 01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:16,840 preseason is that everyone sees whatever bias you had in the 1693 01:27:16,840 --> 01:27:18,160 player. If they make a big play, it's 1694 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:20,760 like, oh, 40 yards, but too slow to take to the house. 1695 01:27:20,760 --> 01:27:25,720 Like, this guy sucks. Well, all right, we're back on 1696 01:27:25,720 --> 01:27:26,960 the rails. Romaninze he he did. 1697 01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:35,240 In fact, suck. Roman Dunesay down 20 spots this 1698 01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:37,320 This just seems like a good adjustment. 1699 01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:38,280 That's. Fair. 1700 01:27:38,720 --> 01:27:39,480 That's fair. Yeah. 1701 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:41,920 It's just fair. It's just fair that's off to 1702 01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:46,360 the. Now, weirdly, there's an impact 1703 01:27:46,360 --> 01:27:49,720 where I could see him going back up quite a bit, which is if 1704 01:27:49,720 --> 01:27:52,440 Caleb Williams starts to just get like, the buzz is just 1705 01:27:52,440 --> 01:27:55,080 crazy, you know, like NFL Network is just like 1706 01:27:55,080 --> 01:27:57,400 breathlessly reporting on Bears practices. 1707 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,600 You know like he the stuff we're seeing is great if you guys only 1708 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,720 knew how locked in he you know where where it just sort of 1709 01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:09,720 rises all the bears up. Yeah, people want to stack the 1710 01:28:09,720 --> 01:28:13,800 Bears and I've gotten a doonsay. I mean, I got them in on the in 1711 01:28:13,800 --> 01:28:17,480 the seventh in DraftKings, which it's a different, different land 1712 01:28:17,480 --> 01:28:19,480 over there. You can get them in the sixth 1713 01:28:19,480 --> 01:28:23,240 though, and Underdog and I will sometimes use that as a back 1714 01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:26,480 door stack with Caleb. It's actually made me want to 1715 01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:30,320 draft like a little more Keenan in the 5th to see if I can get 1716 01:28:30,880 --> 01:28:33,720 you know the the Keena 5th, Doomsday 6th. 1717 01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:35,760 Grab Caleb there. I'm I'm having a hard time 1718 01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:40,680 drafting DJ more, but I'm kind of intrigued maybe by mixing. 1719 01:28:40,680 --> 01:28:44,240 DJ More More is the one, More is the one I like the most, 'cause 1720 01:28:44,240 --> 01:28:47,240 I'm like, I just know this dude can just like, rip off 1721 01:28:47,240 --> 01:28:49,040 touchdowns. He just is such a big play 1722 01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:50,800 merchant. That's true, the big plays there 1723 01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:53,240 are nice. But I mean, to your point, I 1724 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:56,720 could see a doomsday coming back up because it is actually fun. 1725 01:28:56,760 --> 01:29:00,080 As someone who's been kind of bearish on prices of these three 1726 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,160 guys, it is very fun to stack them with Caleb. 1727 01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:08,360 It's also that the, you know, projection based stuff for these 1728 01:29:08,360 --> 01:29:12,280 guys is like, there's so much uncertainty in it. 1729 01:29:12,280 --> 01:29:16,640 We got a brand new quarterback that, I mean, could be really 1730 01:29:16,640 --> 01:29:17,680 good. And Caleb Williams. 1731 01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:19,840 Also, rookie quarterbacks often struggle. 1732 01:29:20,080 --> 01:29:24,520 We have two new wide receivers entering the team here where you 1733 01:29:24,520 --> 01:29:26,960 know Keenan Allen could be done, he could be. 1734 01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:30,360 Last year he was on pace for 1600 yards and 140 catches. 1735 01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:35,200 Roma Dunesay, again, a guy. There's this huge error bars I 1736 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:39,440 think in the projection here where I think there's enough 1737 01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:43,240 upside to be to be in on these wide receivers with with the new 1738 01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:47,560 price adjustment for a dunesay. Yeah, I think it's like, you 1739 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,560 know, people want to compare it to the the JSN thing last year. 1740 01:29:50,560 --> 01:29:54,080 I think it's very different just in terms of how much is changing 1741 01:29:54,360 --> 01:29:57,200 on those teams and also the quality level of the prospect 1742 01:29:57,640 --> 01:30:01,360 that I think in the 60s I think realm means is like a pretty 1743 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:05,400 solid pick there. He is, yeah. 1744 01:30:05,400 --> 01:30:08,360 Yeah, he is. Yeah, and again, he keeps 1745 01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,320 falling. These these ADP I mean. 1746 01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,760 This is like where JSN was going last year and Caleb Williams is 1747 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:16,240 like a better quarterback than Geno Smith. 1748 01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:20,120 Hopefully. And it's the same offensive 1749 01:30:20,120 --> 01:30:25,520 coordinator. I said it once, I'll say it 1750 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,760 again. Caleb Williams, You better not 1751 01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,240 be bad this year because. He's not. 1752 01:30:30,240 --> 01:30:31,400 He's not. I'm not gonna. 1753 01:30:31,400 --> 01:30:34,440 I'm not gonna allow. I'm not allowing Caleb Williams 1754 01:30:34,440 --> 01:30:36,120 FUD. I'll let you FUD like literally. 1755 01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,800 No, I'm not even fudding him. I'm just preemptively saying 1756 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:44,640 like if he's bad, it's gonna be the the collective like U-turn 1757 01:30:44,640 --> 01:30:47,000 the fantasy community is gonna do against Caleb Williams. 1758 01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:48,640 If he's bad, if these receivers is gonna. 1759 01:30:48,640 --> 01:30:52,320 Be like the the, the online vitriol for Caleb Williams is 1760 01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,800 gonna be very high if he's bad, very, very. 1761 01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:55,800 High. Yeah. 1762 01:30:56,240 --> 01:30:59,600 Sam, would you mind sharing with us your your drafts folder on 1763 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,160 Twitter? I'd like to see that. 1764 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:07,840 Yeah, I've been. I've been pumping like five of 1765 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,360 those out of a week in drafts. I'm just getting ready. 1766 01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:11,880 All right. Can I do my? 1767 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:14,840 Twitter's going to turn on this guy so hard. 1768 01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,800 Like how is it it's? Going to be. 1769 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:18,240 It's going to be me. Yeah, it's going. 1770 01:31:19,840 --> 01:31:24,720 Can I do my 80 Mitchell Bull posting before before you guys 1771 01:31:24,800 --> 01:31:26,880 say he stinks? Sure. 1772 01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:27,520 Go ahead. Yeah. 1773 01:31:28,360 --> 01:31:34,640 So like pretty clear that the NFL viewed him as a very boom 1774 01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:39,080 bust, like very wide range of outcomes guy, evident by, you 1775 01:31:39,080 --> 01:31:43,120 know, him going behind objectively lower ceiling guys. 1776 01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:47,480 I think like Piersall Mcconkey, you know, kind of around like 1777 01:31:47,880 --> 01:31:53,280 Roman Wilson style guys. But I think that at this new 1778 01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:57,160 cost we're kind of getting like a giant discount on what his 1779 01:31:57,160 --> 01:31:59,440 ceiling is because his ceiling might be he's better than 1780 01:31:59,440 --> 01:32:02,480 Michael Pittman. Like I don't think any of us are 1781 01:32:02,480 --> 01:32:06,840 really huge Michael Pittman Bros Like, I I like the idea of 1782 01:32:06,840 --> 01:32:10,480 pairing an elite wide receiver one with Anthony Richardson. 1783 01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:14,520 So you've got that crazy like quarterback rushing ceiling or 1784 01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,520 maybe Anthony Richardson throws 47 passes one week. 1785 01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:21,680 And like I think Crane, you said this, like Drake, London's just 1786 01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:23,960 Michael Pittman with a a better publicist. 1787 01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,160 But the the the underlying comment there is that, well, 1788 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:29,400 actually just means these guys are really not that good. 1789 01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:31,000 You know, like they're they're good. 1790 01:32:31,200 --> 01:32:33,640 I'm not saying Pittman's bad, but I Pittman is. 1791 01:32:33,720 --> 01:32:35,040 He's a target. Share merchant. 1792 01:32:35,400 --> 01:32:37,440 Come on. Yes, yes, correct. 1793 01:32:37,440 --> 01:32:40,040 And downs is fine like I I like Josh Downs I think. 1794 01:32:40,160 --> 01:32:42,600 Downs is good. Yeah, Downs is good, sure. 1795 01:32:42,960 --> 01:32:46,960 But 80? Mitchell like has the physical 1796 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:51,240 make up and the these flashes of being a guy who could be a star. 1797 01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,720 I'm not going to say he is. And clearly the NFL is telling 1798 01:32:53,720 --> 01:32:58,400 me that my analysis of him was wrong, that he actually is 1799 01:32:58,880 --> 01:33:02,640 profiles to be a star. If we if we do, we need to do 1800 01:33:02,640 --> 01:33:07,480 some kind of, you know, mad scientist experiment here and 1801 01:33:07,480 --> 01:33:10,600 get Josh Downs brain into AD Mitchell's body. 1802 01:33:10,680 --> 01:33:13,040 Yes. Yeah, because Downs thinks he's 1803 01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:14,800 him. Yeah, he thinks he's, I mean, 1804 01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,160 we're taking the, we're taking that dude at. 1805 01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,400 I mean there's our second round, we're looking for second 1806 01:33:19,400 --> 01:33:21,600 rounders, there's the 2nd rounder. 1807 01:33:21,880 --> 01:33:23,760 So we get Josh Downs and 80 Mitchell's body. 1808 01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,720 I'm taking him. I mean, I take that guy ahead of 1809 01:33:26,720 --> 01:33:28,880 Marvin Harris. That's that's pretty exciting. 1810 01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:33,720 Yeah, but I do think 80. I still think he has room to 1811 01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:37,760 fall further to be honest. I think. 80 Mitchell Yeah, you 1812 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:40,520 know. Like he he he will. 1813 01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:44,480 So I'm not like, I'm not like Super Draft, like I'm taking him 1814 01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:49,520 sometimes, but like, I think he ends up falling another 15 spots 1815 01:33:49,520 --> 01:33:51,840 maybe. Yeah, here's my thing with the 1816 01:33:51,840 --> 01:33:55,280 Colts and this could end up being a bad take. 1817 01:33:55,280 --> 01:33:59,560 But Anthony Richardson? Like, I get he's super exciting 1818 01:33:59,560 --> 01:34:03,320 in fantasy in himself. But then I think people make the 1819 01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:06,360 mistake of saying like, oh, because Anthony Richardson is 1820 01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:10,480 being drafted as the QB 5. Like all of his weapons are then 1821 01:34:10,480 --> 01:34:12,080 better picks. We're taking the quarterback 1822 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:17,400 high and obviously it can work. Like, you know, Jalen Hurts made 1823 01:34:17,400 --> 01:34:19,120 A.J. Brown and Devonta Smith and 1824 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,800 Dallas Goddard, you know, solid fantasy contributors. 1825 01:34:21,800 --> 01:34:25,720 But to me, Richardson still has a ton to prove in the NFL as 1826 01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:29,520 like a real good, like real life quarterback. 1827 01:34:30,040 --> 01:34:34,120 And I don't know if we saw enough to like, immediately be 1828 01:34:34,120 --> 01:34:36,280 so excited about his supporting cast. 1829 01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:38,120 Like he's going to scramble so much. 1830 01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,200 He's going to get a bunch of, like, rushing touchdowns. 1831 01:34:40,200 --> 01:34:43,920 But that's just going to suck all the fantasy points like away 1832 01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:47,160 from his teammates in some ways that I'm just, I don't know. 1833 01:34:47,160 --> 01:34:50,920 I'm kind of skeptical on all the Colts skill position players as 1834 01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:55,960 a result of that. I will say of these three guys, 1835 01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,840 80, Mitchell sort of theoretically fits with Anthony 1836 01:34:59,880 --> 01:35:03,200 Richardson the best. All big plays doesn't need 11 1837 01:35:03,200 --> 01:35:07,560 targets per game, it's it's just all flash and bang. 1838 01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:12,000 Touchdowns, right. The whole thing is like, where's 1839 01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:15,280 when is this guy gonna show up? It's like well, he knows the 1840 01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:18,920 ball's coming his way in you know at the seven yard line. 1841 01:35:19,480 --> 01:35:20,960 I've trust Aidy Mitchell to step. 1842 01:35:20,960 --> 01:35:22,800 I mean he scored a bunch of touchdowns at Texas. 1843 01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:28,560 Like I mean is this sort of like a plaques go Burris type of type 1844 01:35:28,560 --> 01:35:31,880 of play or you're just like hey he doesn't do much but he scores 1845 01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:36,440 in the red zone and he. He could definitely score. 1846 01:35:36,480 --> 01:35:39,760 He could definitely score like 11 touchdowns on like 84 1847 01:35:39,760 --> 01:35:41,880 targets. Yeah, yeah. 1848 01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,200 And I mean that if you're looking to stack Richardson. 1849 01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,440 Is so. Doubling up his passing 1850 01:35:46,440 --> 01:35:48,520 touchdowns is exactly how you want to do it. 1851 01:35:49,200 --> 01:35:51,440 Yeah. So I mean, I you could talk me 1852 01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:54,080 back into 80. Mitchell, I I would love to take 1853 01:35:54,080 --> 01:35:55,880 him more. Like I have him ranked. 1854 01:35:56,160 --> 01:36:01,600 I think he should be at like 120 instead of like 108, but I don't 1855 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:04,800 know, maybe, maybe, maybe I've talked myself back into it a 1856 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,760 little bit. Yeah, I was gonna say like one 1857 01:36:07,760 --> 01:36:10,360 110 to 120 range, which is probably nitpicking where he 1858 01:36:10,360 --> 01:36:13,160 goes now. Like, it's just obviously if I 1859 01:36:13,160 --> 01:36:16,720 have Anthony Richardson, I'm considering him like where he's 1860 01:36:16,720 --> 01:36:18,160 going now for sure. Like, I'm. 1861 01:36:18,160 --> 01:36:20,160 I'm not. I'm not considering I'm if I'm 1862 01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:21,800 taking Anthony Richardson, I'm taking him. 1863 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,480 Yeah. Like what? 1864 01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:26,120 What? What's the argument for not take 1865 01:36:26,120 --> 01:36:29,560 like you? You really needed Rashid Shahid. 1866 01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,160 I guess we I do kind of like. Rashid. 1867 01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:32,400 Yeah, I like Rashid. Rashid. 1868 01:36:32,440 --> 01:36:34,880 What you you really need? You really need Jerry Judy on 1869 01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:36,720 your Anthony Richardson team. No. 1870 01:36:36,760 --> 01:36:39,640 Take him over, Judy. Yeah, Jerry Judy, come on. 1871 01:36:40,320 --> 01:36:42,720 What was that contract that Jerry Judy got this offseason 1872 01:36:42,720 --> 01:36:45,960 that that was? It's got to be the biggest 1873 01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:50,960 contract ever for a wide receiver who's never had 1000 1874 01:36:50,960 --> 01:36:52,880 yards. Is that the worst contract that 1875 01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:58,520 Browns have ever given out? I can't think of any other bad 1876 01:36:58,520 --> 01:37:01,600 ones. All I can think of, yeah. 1877 01:37:04,880 --> 01:37:06,840 Last guy. Oh, go ahead. 1878 01:37:07,320 --> 01:37:09,520 Yeah, no. Last guy I wanted to hit on here 1879 01:37:10,040 --> 01:37:12,160 was Brock Bowers, The bottom of the chart. 1880 01:37:12,160 --> 01:37:14,560 He's down 15 picks. Pick 92. 1881 01:37:16,400 --> 01:37:18,800 Yeah, I don't know. I honestly like, I didn't do 1882 01:37:18,800 --> 01:37:20,600 this for tight ends. I mapped up the landing spots 1883 01:37:20,600 --> 01:37:22,120 for running backs and wide receivers. 1884 01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:25,240 Like, I'm sure if I did this for tight ends, I would have had the 1885 01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:31,360 Raiders ranked as like a bottom 10 landing spot for a tight end, 1886 01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,480 right? Like, it's just bad there. 1887 01:37:33,560 --> 01:37:35,400 There's no way. There's no two ways around it. 1888 01:37:36,600 --> 01:37:40,120 Quarterback Gardner Minshew competing with Jacoby Myers and 1889 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,920 Devante Adams on a team that's going to have one of the lowest 1890 01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:44,960 win totals. It's just. 1891 01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:49,840 Are you Are you worried that you were literally personifying the 1892 01:37:49,840 --> 01:37:52,320 middle IQ bell curve meme right now? 1893 01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:56,200 Brock Bowers and and the two sides Are Brock Bowers Go Burr 1894 01:37:56,200 --> 01:37:57,960 and you're in the middle going well. 1895 01:37:57,960 --> 01:38:00,320 The Raiders aren't a very good landing spot made. 1896 01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,360 The QB play is not that good and we just don't know. 1897 01:38:05,200 --> 01:38:06,640 My face is getting redder and redder. 1898 01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:10,640 I, I, I, I'm taking Bowers. Not because anything you said 1899 01:38:10,640 --> 01:38:16,040 was wrong, but because it's just it'll be so freaking obvious in 1900 01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:18,360 hindsight that he was a good, like by like week four, you're 1901 01:38:18,360 --> 01:38:21,480 like, oh, Bowers is catching 5 1/2 passes per game and he 1902 01:38:21,480 --> 01:38:24,480 scored three times already and you're just like, well, yeah, 1903 01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:27,040 duh, like, I like, obviously that's what's going to happen. 1904 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,880 And he, I don't know, maybe he'll suck and Devante Adams 1905 01:38:29,880 --> 01:38:31,560 will take all the targets and it'll be a nightmare. 1906 01:38:31,560 --> 01:38:34,040 But that doesn't feel the most likely thing to me. 1907 01:38:35,080 --> 01:38:38,680 So I would love to be in on Bowers, but like, I really think 1908 01:38:39,320 --> 01:38:41,480 he needs to fall further. I mean, it's he. 1909 01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:46,920 He will, I think. You know, like compared to wait, 1910 01:38:46,920 --> 01:38:48,240 So where? Where does ETR? 1911 01:38:48,240 --> 01:38:50,200 Where does ETR have him ranked? Where does ETR have? 1912 01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,120 Him ranked one, I think. Like six, I think. 1913 01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:56,280 No, I'm kidding. Yeah, Leonie actually projects 1914 01:38:56,280 --> 01:38:58,520 Mayer over Brock Bowers, I think. 1915 01:39:00,720 --> 01:39:03,800 Yeah, no, but I mean I think that's probably closer to where 1916 01:39:03,800 --> 01:39:08,120 he should be than his ADPI think he's being like the like like 1917 01:39:08,120 --> 01:39:09,840 111 is where I think you should be. 1918 01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:14,840 So he's got at least you know he's got like 15 picks more than 1919 01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:16,400 that to. Fall There's just too many, 1920 01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:20,880 there's too many good running backs there for me, like at pick 1921 01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:24,560 90 that. That's that's The thing is that 1922 01:39:24,560 --> 01:39:26,680 it's just, yeah, it's like I'll take a little bit of Jalen 1923 01:39:26,680 --> 01:39:28,680 Warren, I'll take a little bit of Tony Pollard, I'll get some 1924 01:39:28,680 --> 01:39:32,640 Trey Benson Court. You're oftentimes if you have, 1925 01:39:33,520 --> 01:39:37,560 if you have a Miami wide receiver or you have CD like if 1926 01:39:37,560 --> 01:39:39,680 they're like all the quarterbacks there are good. 1927 01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:42,000 Caleb is there. Daniels is there like it is. 1928 01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:46,800 It is a range where you're you're kind of trying to fill 1929 01:39:46,800 --> 01:39:48,600 holes. So it's not all and Bowers kind 1930 01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,680 of feels like a luxury pick. Yeah, here's the The luxury pick 1931 01:39:51,680 --> 01:39:55,720 thing that worries me is they drafted Michael Mayer last year. 1932 01:39:55,720 --> 01:39:58,920 They actually signed Harrison Bryant to a $4 million contract 1933 01:39:58,920 --> 01:40:02,040 this offseason. I think they they win this draft 1934 01:40:02,200 --> 01:40:05,320 like. Preparing for Bowers to not be 1935 01:40:05,320 --> 01:40:09,480 on the board at pick 13 or, they thought, a quarterback they 1936 01:40:09,480 --> 01:40:10,880 liked. They thought they were taking 1937 01:40:10,960 --> 01:40:13,240 Penix. They totally were taking Penix. 1938 01:40:13,400 --> 01:40:16,920 This this feels like a like the guy who, you know, just bought 1939 01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:20,000 the ESPN Magazine before your fantasy draft and like the guy 1940 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:23,880 he circled wasn't there and he just panics and picks Michael 1941 01:40:23,880 --> 01:40:25,640 Mayer at pick thirteen NFL draft. 1942 01:40:25,640 --> 01:40:29,360 Like, I just don't trust this Raiders organization to like 1943 01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:33,240 have a coherent plan with mayor. Obviously they have plenty of 1944 01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:36,680 time to figure it out, but this is like a luxury pick for an 1945 01:40:36,680 --> 01:40:38,640 organization that's going nowhere. 1946 01:40:38,640 --> 01:40:41,600 It just it just has a lot of red flags for me. 1947 01:40:43,160 --> 01:40:45,520 It has a lot of red flags for me too. 1948 01:40:45,800 --> 01:40:50,880 But like, I I want to be in because I think Bowers is really 1949 01:40:50,880 --> 01:40:52,040 good. The problem is that like he's 1950 01:40:52,040 --> 01:40:57,120 going near Jake Ferguson, Dallas Gotter, David and Joku. 1951 01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,800 I mean, I just don't really see how you take him over those 1952 01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,200 guys. Like you're you're dealing with 1953 01:41:03,200 --> 01:41:06,080 routes, route issue early on, right? 1954 01:41:06,080 --> 01:41:10,160 Like Mayer's probably playing ahead to begin the season. 1955 01:41:11,840 --> 01:41:14,960 He's kind of do like the Dalton Kincaid, like they're running a 1956 01:41:14,960 --> 01:41:17,560 lot of 12 personnel. But like Bauer's route 1957 01:41:17,560 --> 01:41:20,800 participation early on is probably like in the 60% range, 1958 01:41:20,800 --> 01:41:23,320 65% range. You're hoping he gets up by the 1959 01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:27,200 end of the season to a full time role, but then is he out 1960 01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:30,000 targeting Jacoby Myers as the number two in this offense? 1961 01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:33,680 Like, I hope, but it's not a guarantee this offense isn't 1962 01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,640 going to be passing a ton, as we talked about earlier. 1963 01:41:36,160 --> 01:41:39,120 So like that's all it. You know, as a top 100 pick, 1964 01:41:39,120 --> 01:41:42,120 like that's a lot of things I'm I'm kind of having to get right. 1965 01:41:42,920 --> 01:41:46,080 If I can get him kind of where Dalton Kincaid was going last 1966 01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,960 year and I'm trading some of the Josh Allen upside for just like 1967 01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:52,920 this guy's better than Kincaid upside, That's where I start to 1968 01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:54,880 get interested. So get him outside of the top 1969 01:41:54,880 --> 01:42:00,000 100 picks and I will start taking Bowers again happily and 1970 01:42:00,000 --> 01:42:03,480 and kind of I think he would fill a real hole in the draft. 1971 01:42:03,480 --> 01:42:06,240 Like there's not really any tight ends in that range that we 1972 01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:08,560 feel good about. You know, Dalton Schultz is like 1973 01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:13,080 the only guy kind of even in that vicinity that I feel OK 1974 01:42:13,080 --> 01:42:14,960 about. I'm I'm out on Hawkinson, so 1975 01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:17,800 there's not really anyone there. Comet took a big hit with the 1976 01:42:17,800 --> 01:42:21,440 doonsay. So you know, he would actually 1977 01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:25,480 like really be nice to have in in that part of the draft. 1978 01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:28,680 You know, kind of like Gus Edwards is is going off the 1979 01:42:28,680 --> 01:42:31,240 board, Taiji Spears going off the board and then Brock Bowers 1980 01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:33,920 is sitting right there after that, that pocket of running 1981 01:42:33,920 --> 01:42:36,520 backs is gone. That would be pretty sweet. 1982 01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:39,600 So I I really hope that's the way it goes right now. 1983 01:42:39,600 --> 01:42:43,520 I'm not really drafting him. I think he'll continue to fall. 1984 01:42:44,840 --> 01:42:50,360 Let's wrap up here guys. Best ADP risers from now to 1985 01:42:50,360 --> 01:42:52,320 September. For people who weren't with us 1986 01:42:52,320 --> 01:42:54,760 last year, this is a competition. 1987 01:42:54,760 --> 01:42:58,200 We do every show trying to project the biggest closing line 1988 01:42:58,200 --> 01:43:03,520 value guys on the board and we'll tally it up together, you 1989 01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:05,920 know, last last stream of the year in September. 1990 01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:10,560 So I started last time. I'll give it to you Pat, to 1991 01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:13,760 start this time because I'm honest, you know, I I play this 1992 01:43:13,760 --> 01:43:17,120 game without cheating, taking the easy way out. 1993 01:43:17,360 --> 01:43:18,360 So who do you want? I. 1994 01:43:20,640 --> 01:43:22,120 Haven't talked about this one bit. 1995 01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:26,160 I I have a really good name, but I'm actually gonna save it for a 1996 01:43:26,160 --> 01:43:28,640 future week because I think he's gonna fall more. 1997 01:43:30,200 --> 01:43:30,600 Smart. Yeah. 1998 01:43:30,640 --> 01:43:32,560 Go someone else. Go, 'cause I need to, like, 1999 01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:34,040 literally think about what I'm gonna do. 2000 01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:40,360 I will. Take yeah, I will take Kamani, 2001 01:43:40,360 --> 01:43:43,000 Vidal. They the the slappies. 2002 01:43:43,000 --> 01:43:45,160 The slappies are gonna give it all so much higher. 2003 01:43:45,960 --> 01:43:47,520 Oh, it's a good one. That's a really good one. 2004 01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:49,400 Yeah. The the thing with that one is 2005 01:43:49,400 --> 01:43:51,560 it's it's kind of like binary right? 2006 01:43:51,560 --> 01:43:54,200 Like he's they're gonna yeah, that's either going to be a big 2007 01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:57,000 win or, like, hilarious. He doesn't get drafted, yeah. 2008 01:43:57,160 --> 01:44:02,560 Yeah, that's a good one all. Right. 2009 01:44:02,560 --> 01:44:05,760 I'll, I'll take Tyron Tracy. That was the other guy I was 2010 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:07,440 gonna. I was thinking about him, Yeah. 2011 01:44:08,520 --> 01:44:11,320 That's a good one. The the one I'll go with this is 2012 01:44:11,320 --> 01:44:14,760 definitely a risk. I'm going to go with Rashid 2013 01:44:14,760 --> 01:44:17,320 Rice, I think. That's who I was going to take. 2014 01:44:17,320 --> 01:44:18,880 That's who I was going to take. I was. 2015 01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:21,600 I also crossed my mind because I think he's falled further. 2016 01:44:22,080 --> 01:44:25,080 I'm going to take him in two weeks and then well. 2017 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,040 Wait, are you allowed? Are we allowed to do that? 2018 01:44:27,120 --> 01:44:28,040 I guess. We've done that. 2019 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:30,080 Before we've definitely done that. 2020 01:44:30,120 --> 01:44:33,120 Yeah, same. In the closing line value game, 2021 01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:36,000 getting the worst closing line value in that game because. 2022 01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:40,800 I'm going to have to tell Rashid Rice on Twitter so much to keep 2023 01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:45,240 his keep his price elevated. Yeah. 2024 01:44:46,480 --> 01:44:49,840 OK, well fuck this game. Fuck this game. 2025 01:44:50,960 --> 01:44:51,960 I'm not tracking it. This. 2026 01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:57,120 Year it's week two, it's Week 2. You got to wait for him to be 2027 01:44:57,120 --> 01:45:00,040 like pick 83 and then the NFL says he's suspended for the 2028 01:45:00,040 --> 01:45:03,080 first half of game one. Davis and I just playing chicken 2029 01:45:03,080 --> 01:45:05,640 for the rest of this game. It takes rice. 2030 01:45:08,920 --> 01:45:12,520 Oh God. All right, that'll that'll do 2031 01:45:12,520 --> 01:45:14,080 it. It was a good pick, though. 2032 01:45:14,080 --> 01:45:16,200 It is a good, I mean, we definitely agree with you. 2033 01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:19,240 Yeah. Like I think by BICIP number 2034 01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:26,560 yeah we'll see we'll see or says that's not. 2035 01:45:26,920 --> 01:45:28,080 Fair. That's not fair. 2036 01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,600 Yeah, I think we did. I think this is right from Neil. 2037 01:45:33,600 --> 01:45:36,720 I think we tried to avoid repeats, but I did such a bad 2038 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:40,760 dog job tracking it that I could never like definitively say this 2039 01:45:40,760 --> 01:45:44,280 is a repeat or it's not. So it it just kind of quickly, 2040 01:45:44,480 --> 01:45:47,200 quickly went off the rails? I mean, I definitely took two 2041 01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:50,960 two out well like 3 separate times and he rose to like a 17th 2042 01:45:50,960 --> 01:45:53,280 round pick. I I took pre saw at least twice 2043 01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:57,560 and I at one point had like a a pivot off of it in case and then 2044 01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:58,760 I think you gave me credit for that same. 2045 01:46:00,280 --> 01:46:02,240 Yeah. Classic terrain. 2046 01:46:03,000 --> 01:46:07,840 I did all right. That'll do it for ADP chasing. 2047 01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:11,800 We'll be back next Monday, same time as always. 2048 01:46:11,800 --> 01:46:14,280 I think we'll have Hayden Winks on as our first guest of the 2049 01:46:14,280 --> 01:46:18,400 season. And yeah, we'll try to bully him 2050 01:46:18,400 --> 01:46:20,200 out of his running back rankings. 2051 01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:22,440 I've seen Hayden's, he's got some running backs pretty high 2052 01:46:22,440 --> 01:46:26,360 up there, so, So we'll do our best, Hayden, and I'm sure he's 2053 01:46:26,360 --> 01:46:27,800 going to come pretty well prepared for that. 2054 01:46:28,600 --> 01:46:31,960 Pat, I saw you wrote an article about a tree or something today. 2055 01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:33,520 What? What else you got going on at 2056 01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:36,600 Legendary Upside? I did, and it's completely free. 2057 01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:39,920 legendaryupside.com wrote an article. 2058 01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:42,920 It's it's about, actually it's, you know, if you're watching the 2059 01:46:42,920 --> 01:46:44,560 show, I think you you'll really enjoy it. 2060 01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:47,920 It's about how to build around big stands. 2061 01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:53,280 So if you're taking big stands, 30% plus of a player, you know, 2062 01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:56,040 how do you think about what? Like what now? 2063 01:46:56,400 --> 01:46:58,200 And then the article's really about that. 2064 01:46:58,200 --> 01:47:02,600 But it's an extended metaphor that involves A mahogany tree 2065 01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:07,080 that was found in 1965 in the Central American rainforest. 2066 01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:11,040 So if you want to just like, lose in a bunch of diversified 2067 01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:14,640 ways with JSN, Pat will teach you how to do that. 2068 01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:18,640 Davis, what about you? What do you have going on? 2069 01:47:19,520 --> 01:47:21,760 Just updated my ranks this morning. 2070 01:47:22,360 --> 01:47:25,240 It's it's dynasty rookie draft season. 2071 01:47:25,240 --> 01:47:29,000 I'm, I'm, I'm in like 17 concurrent rookie drafts right 2072 01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,920 now. So it's a lot of, a lot of 2073 01:47:30,920 --> 01:47:34,040 trying to get like 2026 third round picks out of people for 2074 01:47:34,040 --> 01:47:37,280 very small. Davis has already tilted me. 2075 01:47:37,280 --> 01:47:40,080 I was talking with Anthony Miko and I was trying to get Evan 2076 01:47:40,080 --> 01:47:43,040 Ingram for a second and then Davis got him for a second and 2077 01:47:43,040 --> 01:47:46,240 like 3/4. So I was like Miko could could 2078 01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,480 have asked if I would have given you 3/4 or probably would have. 2079 01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:52,840 Where you and I you and I are I so you and I are in a real arms 2080 01:47:52,840 --> 01:47:55,280 race in that league where and and I'm at. 2081 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,880 I'm running out of picks. I I got like 3 roster spots to 2082 01:47:57,880 --> 01:48:01,720 fill and I've got like a 2026 first left like plug the hole. 2083 01:48:01,720 --> 01:48:04,560 So it's a real it's it's a real problem. 2084 01:48:07,600 --> 01:48:09,120 So that's what I've got going on right now. 2085 01:48:09,120 --> 01:48:11,160 If you're in a If you're in a league with me, send me some. 2086 01:48:15,720 --> 01:48:18,520 Last thing I'll mention before we head out over to establish 2087 01:48:18,520 --> 01:48:21,040 the run. They have a new Best Ball 2088 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:25,360 package they're working on over there, so $39.00 for the whole 2089 01:48:25,360 --> 01:48:27,680 season. Get ranks, all that good stuff. 2090 01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:31,120 I'll be contributing to that throughout the season, probably 2091 01:48:31,120 --> 01:48:35,960 more so in the summer. But yeah, have good stuff going 2092 01:48:35,960 --> 01:48:38,920 on there. Anyways, we'll be back next 2093 01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:39,840 week. See you guys.