Good morning from muggy Western New York.
The river is calm. If anyone knows where I can get
some wind, please let me know. Not as much hot air on the show
today. Davis Maddock is on vacation.
Pat Kerain had his flight from New York to California cancelled
and will not be joining us either.
Therefore, Q Hockey Night in Canada, it's myself, Mike, show
up with our hero Jacob Sanderson.
There's a lot to talk about even though we're pre training camp.
Naji Harris's unfortunate fireworks accident.
What does that mean? Of course, the severe
accusations against Keyshawn Judkins.
And what are we doing with what is going on with Joanne
Jennings? Our annual 49ers receiver drama.
Happy 14th birthday to my daughter.
Garnett might show up with Jacob Sanderson.
ADP Chasing July 15th, 2025. ADP chasing is for when you
watch ship chasing you go these guys are just football guys.
I have my 4% exposure blanket. To stay for actually.
Back in, if it's Ashanek, it's tear door crystal ball.
Close your eyes, you know. All your entries are going to.
Lose anyway, yeah. That's fair.
You're not going to told me all this way I was here.
It's anti cabal, it's anti the best ball thought leader.
I'm obviously lying to some degree because like, I have a
lot of both of these guys. It's the most disgusting thing
you can make, but. Man.
Morning, Jacob. Morning, it's a it's a slimmed
down ADP chasing this morning. Yeah, I I think we're going to
do what, about an hour on the new NHLCBA?
I mean that of course, the Sabres importantly have extended
Bowen Byram for two years at six and a quarter per.
So we have that to dissect actually.
The least happy person about that is probably Bowen, Byram or
me. This is terrible.
And the whole point, the whole point of it is to pair him with
Rasmus Dalene, which why can't you just put anybody there at
800,000 in that role? But anyway, I digress.
Well, I did want to ask you a question and I've been
embarrassed to ask on this show, but half of us aren't here and
you know this, right? Can you for me?
For us, and I'm sorry if I'm the only one who needs this help,
define the word slappy. Oh gosh, it's actually very
funny you asked that because so last night I was at an in person
draft. Believe it or not, these things
still happen. You you probably remember from
back in the day. We're doing them.
I was here and anyway, well, but half us were in person anyhow.
And there was a guy whose whose team name was Slappy Gilmore and
he continually snipes all my players throughout, throughout
the entirety of the day. He takes Tootin for me, he takes
Miles Sanders for me, several other guys.
And I, I asked the guy who invited me to the draft, like,
is he a listener? Like what, what, what is this
shit? Like, why?
Why am I being continually, continually treated in such a
fashion? And I messaged him afterwards
and he says that he started listening to the show quite
recently, had heard Slappy on the show and asked his buddy
what it was. And then then that person tried
to define it and he, he realized that, OK, this, this is me.
This defines me. I, I am indeed a slappy.
All that to say, this is something that Davis, I think
started, I'm pretty sure. And I've just kind of gone with
it. My vibe.
This is just like, I think of like the seals, you know, when
they're like out there and they're just like slapping each
other like, and they're just, they're just slapping it up
waiting for, for you to feed them bread crumbs or whatever.
Specifically when I went to Victoria about God my first
year, and there used to be this Marina where you could feed the
seals and the seals would sit there and they would like slap
themselves and they would look up and they'd wait for you to
toss bread crumbs. When I was last in Victoria,
they closed that Marina because the seals would spend so much
time staring directly up at the sun waiting for food, they would
all go blind. Oh no.
And to me, that is a slappy. It's just a drafter who is
constantly staring into the sun, slapping themselves, waiting for
crumbs until they go blind. So it's in keeping with the
recent theme on this show, which is it's mostly bad, but it's
you're happy. Exactly.
You're just you're you're enjoying what's happening until
you check your underdog bank account at the end of the year.
Are we jealous of the slappies? I, I I'm in the group chat with
the Gold Bulls guys. I am a slappy.
To me, the slappies are both I, I both am slappy and the
slappies are dependent on on my sloppy.
For the slappies, it's it's a, it's a, it's a reciprocal sloppy
circle. I've been to is it Pier 51 in
San Francisco? What is the the number watching
the seals do that or like really?
It was really cool. It was a long time ago, but.
Did you intentionally remove all of the helmets except for the
Colts and the Bills? Helmets just signify that we've
been, we've been stranded. It's.
It's yours and mine, and as a proper host, you're on top.
So that's how we did it. Colts and pills.
Mike Curtis, Mad Dog. Mike Curtis, a legend in his
day, is who signed that Colts helmet.
He's the guy. If you don't, you mean you're
Jacob Sanderson. If you don't know Mike Curtis,
he's probably most famous for when a fan ran on the field at
Memorial Stadium 1 game in the 70s.
He took them out. I mean like absolute forearm to
the face. You've never seen anything like
it. Now they won't even show the guy
running. A fan runs on the field and it's
heresy. We can't even, we can't put this
on TV, right? And anybody runs on the field.
Didn't happen to the Super Bowl last year.
Somebody runs on the field. We cannot put this on TV.
Think of what's on TV and that we can't show.
We can't glorify the person. Monday Night Football, early 70s
guy, runs on the field. Curtis, absolute forearm shiver.
You know, my guy, the late Mike Curtis, Mad Dog, there he is
represented. All right.
So there is some important stuff here with the Browns and the
Chargers and the Niners. Let's start with LA.
So they're in camp and the report is that Naji Harris will
be ready for training camp. Is the fireworks thing nothing?
Was he already thing? Are you moving that's.
Not quite true. He's he's going to miss the
start of training camp, but he will re emerge at some point
during training camp and prior to the season that that seems to
be the the the most the most accurate reporting.
So I don't think it's nothing. I mean, I think, you know, you
think about antifragility and the idea that essentially when
you have a player like Naji and a player like Hampton, any
externality will work to the benefit of the younger, more
talented, more invested in player.
And all that Naji can really depend on is that he just
remains, you know, entrenched and that nothing comes in to
disturb that. So to me, if Hampton gets a
couple of weeks to start training camp as the RB one and
then Naji has to come back in, you know, and it's not like he
was on this team last year. They're they're both new to the
team, right? Naji comes back in and he now
has to re earn that spot. I think that makes a bit of a
difference. So yeah, I'm, I think it
legitimately matters. I've moved Hampton up but half a
round I was already had ADP on him.
But yeah, I think Hampton should be going now in like that late 3
area versus where he's been going in the in the mid to late
4 personally. Is there a Breeze Hall versus
Hampton question now or are you basing that unexplored?
I mean I I love breeze hallway more than ADP so I'm I'm the
wrong person to ask, but like, I would take I would take Hampton
ahead of Kyron Williams. Yeah, yeah, I like that.
I would take him ahead of James Cook.
Yeah, there's a few other guys in there.
I would take him ahead of Breece Hall if I like, didn't like
Breece Hall. Like infinitely more than his
ADP. Well, are you at a point though
where you have so much Breece Hall that it's time to sort of
weigh that down a little bit or? No, no, it's time.
It's time to just keep staring into the sun.
So how would you play the pre season if you were LA?
As you said, they're both new there.
One's a veteran but he's not 100% to put it one way.
The other is a rookie. You kind of like in theory, the
idea of playing the rookies in the pre season.
Is that going to tell us anything based on like usage or
performance maybe? I can't remember how Harbaugh
operated last year with with pre season reps I, I think he
actually did play all the rookies because I, oh he
definitely did because I remember the lad Mcconkey coming
off the field on 2 wide receiver sets for Brendan Rice for
Brendan. Rice I.
Remember the Brendan Rice over lad Mcconkey taste?
Gary Rice's son. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
RRRR. Yeah, should I go get his
helmet? Yeah, so yes, now that's coming
back to me. I'm sure Hampton will play at
the start of training camp or start of pre season.
Rookies almost always do. Yeah, I, I wouldn't, I don't
know, I'm not going to read too much into that one way or the
other. Like there's not really a third
running back here. I know there's been some some
positive reporting on Rocket Sanders.
I I don't think he's anything unless one of these guys gets
hurt. So to me it's I'm not reading
into too much. It's it's Hampton and it's
nausea and we'll see what the split is in season.
But I I do think that Hampton's odds of starting the season in a
larger role than maybe we were projecting and then being able
to then expedite his takeover of the backfield go up materially
with every single day that Naji is not participating in.
Hampton's coming in there and he's looking awesome.
Is it doing anything for how you're starting drafts?
Like I still want to be starting either 2 receivers or receiver
Bowers at the back end. I always like getting those
slots. You know, 8 is my favorite right
now because I'm getting anything I want.
I'm getting puka, I'm getting McCaffrey, I'm getting A.J.
Brown, Bowers, anything I want from the 18.
That's right, My current favorite.
Is the move on Hampton important for how you want to start?
Yeah, a little bit I I mean it's yeah, because there's there's
guys in round four that I was looking at that were not running
backs prior. I mean, I I draft a lot of tat
in that range and I've been I've been currently going Hampton
over tat now. So it may it maybe maybe has me
breaking a little bit of a ties towards wide receivers in the
first couple of rounds for sure. But I'm, I'm not that afraid of
getting the three running backs quickly.
I mean, I think that running back projects to outscore wide
receiver pretty, pretty significantly in the flex.
I've been, I've not been that fearful of just kind of taking
whoever is highest on my board in the 1st 5 rounds, figuring it
out from there. And, and I don't mind starting
A-Team where, you know, if I do wide receiver, wide receiver and
then I go, you know, say Bruce or Chase Brown in the third,
Hampton in the fourth, maybe wide receiver in the 5th, then
I'll add that third running back in the 6th with like Henderson
or Connor or Harvey or something.
So, you know, maybe I don't think I want to get to 4 running
backs through 6 rounds, but I, I have no problem getting to 3.
So I, I think it's, it's just, it just adds probably I'm just
getting to 3 running backs faster than I used to where I
was usually through, at 2 running backs through 6.
And now I'm I'm getting to three a little bit more often with
breaking those ties to Hampton. OK, so Ballers this week, let me
get that slide up here because Pat's not here to help me do it.
Obviously, Judkins is on this list, Najee Harris on the list.
Of course. It's been an interesting week.
I mean, we're mostly pre camp, as I said, but that's been
happening. And we have Jonnu Smith, Pat
Fryermuth, which is, you know, from kind of last week.
And I think I mentioned Hunter, hang on a second, trying to
figure out how to do this. I don't think I know how to do
it. Well.
I mean, let's get to Judkins while I figure this out, Jacob.
I mean, that's pretty scary news on him.
And the the backside of that with Dylan Sampson.
There we go. Is.
Thank you. Mike, let's fucking.
Go. It's interesting what happens
with Judkins like this is 1. We've had these unfortunately,
every year where this could be nothing in terms of fantasy
value or something really meaningful.
What are you doing about it? Man, it's it's really hard to
say like this. This one has such a wide range
of outcomes. The one thing I think that is
very unlikely based on the timeline that these things
occur, I think it's very unlikely that he's going to be
suspended this year, but there's a big but on that.
He might be put on the commissioner's exempt list this
year, which obviously for our intents and purposes the same
difference. So usually with the NF LS
policy, they don't issue suspensions until after a
criminal case is resolved. And so you never know because
things could settle. But I, I think it's far, but the
likelihood of like under 20% that this criminal case gets
resolved at some point prior to the end of this season.
So based on that, a suspension is, is not very likely and
they've been very inconsistent with how they operate in terms
of the exempt list. So you know, Alvin Kamara, if I
recall correctly, never got placed on the exempt list,
right. He, he eventually got suspended,
but not in the year that it happened.
He got suspended a year after the fact and he never went on
exempt list. Von Miller was never placed on
the exempt list. Then there was also there was
someone else. Now it's now it's now it's
eluding me. While you're thinking of it, Von
Miller, I mean that here in Buffalo, that sounded super
serious and awful and like, OK, well, what's going to change
here? And then I think there were no
charges ultimately, you know, filed against him.
So then he played like, then it was kind of over for NFL
purposes, if not also criminal purposes.
Right. And and so I, I can't recall
there was there's no other domestic violence cases that
have wound up on exempt. So it's going to come down to, I
mean really just the discretion of like Rodger Goodell, which is
which is difficult to decipher that's.
Right tackle. People, exactly.
People in the chat are also people in the chat are also
discussing that you know, is further complicated by the fact
he hasn't signed a contract. He's part of this second round
pick. Right.
Well, so isn't isn't he one of the two who did?
Or no, he's not one of the two who?
Did this is this is the weirdest part is that it's the other
brown second round pick is 1. Of the Oh, the linebacker.
Schwesinger and I don't really know, I mean, this obviously
complicates matters, but it's it's weird to me that the Browns
did that for one of their picks, but then didn't for Judkins
initially. Obviously at this point, I don't
think that there's going to be a lot of appetite to to guarantee
his contract. So yeah, it's it's going to be
odd and it's it's going to be a fluid situation.
If I had to wager, like if you're, if we're talking just
strictly for, for fantasy football implications, I, I
still think the most likely scenario, like single most
likely plurality scenario is that he plays the entire season
this year and then he probably maybe looks at a suspension
IN20262027. But we still, there's just so,
so much that we don't know. And when you get into exempt
list situations, I mean, we've seen players spend the entire
year on the except list. So in terms of when he could
miss games, how many he could miss games, like truly
everything from he plays every game this year, he plays zero
games this year is, is at least on the table.
And so I think Judkins needs to fall pretty considerably.
I'm looking to where I have him ranked.
I, I, I did an update, but I did it before.
I did it before the, the, the most recent police report was
released. So I might move him down further
now. I originally moved him down to
90. He was going, and I think I had
him at about 70. I'm probably going to move him
down into the hundreds after this.
And, and I have Stanson now up to 153.
I have Ford at 172. I might move those guys up even
a little bit further. It's just, yeah, it's it's a
very challenging situation for sure.
But how are you feeling about it?
Oh, uh oh. Are you frozen?
Are you frozen or am I frozen? That's the question.
I I can never tell. There's only two of us.
I'm going to hit refresh. All right, just me.
I've been played. I haven't played.
Talk about Quinn, Shawn Judkins. Like, yeah, I think I'm going
to. I think I'm going to put him in
like the Chardonnay range. That feels like a good like
hedge on risk reward. Yeah.
Should I just stream? Should I just stream ABBMI?
Will? I will stream ABBM in like 2
minutes if we don't get anything from Mike's show.
I've been abandoned in this backfill.
I'm handling, handling too many touches.
All right. Oh, have we got a show back?
No, I've just got a slide. Who's handling this on the back
end? Is this Pete?
OK, I see Pete. Pete is handling this in the
back end as I solo stream. I will keep you guys updated on
whether Show up was able to rejoin the stream.
All right. Also falling, we've got Travis
Hunter. That continues to hurt.
We got of course, the Steelers tight ends and all right, let's
let's see what I can do here. Do I have the ability to share a
screen? Yes, I do all right, let's let's
hop into a draft. Let's let's make the let's make
some let's make some chicken salad out of this chicken shit
here. OK, and show up.
Just going to have to deal with it when he comes back in.
All right, get a little screen share going.
There we go. All right, 20 seconds for pick.
We're entering choke can help draft as we go.
Here. Chat, help, help me out.
Let's keep this entertaining. OK, help fill this room.
Everything's coming on my back. All right, we're taking 36
carries. We're going to try an average
about 4.1 solid yards per carry and we're going to see if we can
get this in the end zone here. All right.
People are saying tag in Pete Peta's family obligations.
His family obligations are not important enough that he can't
handle slides from the back end, but they are too important for
him to show up on screen and provide any sort of assistance
that would help me from having to handle the show literally
alone. So all right, we are in for the
audio listeners. Pat has had his flight
cancelled. Davis has vacation obligations.
Show has the Internet connection of 1958.
It is just me and a Basketball Mania draft that I have entered
impromptu abandoning the show at the One O 9, and I'm surrounded
by Red Shields, most of whom I assume are currently in our
comment section. So Shop says he's here, but that
Pete, if you can let him in or someone can let him in, that'd
be great. I cannot.
Shop, if you're listening, I can't let you in.
I have no powers in this area. I'll message the discord though.
All right, show up. You hear me?
OK, if you hear me then you know that I can't do anything to
help. Yes, there he is.
All right, show. Poor Pete.
Poor me while you're.
Gone. I was not 100% sure if you were
ever coming back so I I kind of called an audible and I opted a
BBM draft. I love him.
So we're going to we're going to draft this BBM team and we can
continue to weave in other discussions as you wanted, I
think. I think we wanted to eventually
get to Juan Jennings unless he has anything on Quin Shawn
Jenkins. And I think where we left it was
I was saying, what do you think, SHO?
What are your thoughts? SHO Cho And then, and then you
were frozen. I'm sorry, I don't know.
I mean, I've got, I've got teenagers.
We've got Wi-Fi, we're on the river.
We're doing a thing. Nico Collins or McCaffrey,
depending on how you want to build it.
Let's test the theory we talked about in the beginning, where
you get, you know, you find out Reese, Hall, Hampton, whatever
happens there all. Right, that sounds like a plan.
Sounds like a plan to me. I would just never draft
Judkins. I don't think you liked them
anyway. I didn't mind him.
I had about an average amount. I, I, I, I don't really like him
like from a dynasty perspective, but I, I thought like Top 40
pick athletic workhorse running back going in around 7:00.
I thought that was a nice value. I did not know that he was going
to commit violence against women.
Allegedly, of course. Allegedly, of course.
Well, I, I have a lot of drafts like this.
You, you want to be, I said earlier like, you want to be the
18, you're the 19. That's pretty close.
And I think you can do anything here, but these are your
rankings. That's interesting.
Yeah, yeah. I have my, I have my rankings
uploaded in here, yeah. Where's Bowers?
Oh, there he is. OK, good.
I don't. Think we're getting them in this
track, though. Who, who, who is it that went,
oh, Henry went ahead. I would take him ahead of
London, though, if you wanted to.
That's up to you. I would not take that to Brian
Thomas, though. Let's do Brian Thomas.
I agree that. Feels like a pretty great value
at 16. Love it.
Brian Thomas, Nico Collins to. Upload my switch to the Jetkins
ranking, there we go. Brian Thomas, Nico Collins,
London. A knee draft that starts with
two of those I love. Yeah, I'm pumped about this.
I I love, I love playing in the back end.
Love to see Brian Thomas fall a little bit.
Yeah, for the those wondering in the chat, these are my rankings.
These are how I actually draft off of.
I've not got the chance to update a couple things.
So Jennings is going to be higher than I would probably
take him right now. Pure Sol is lower than I would
take him right now. I've moved Judkins down as I
mentioned, but I'm going to move him down further after reading
some of the stuff yesterday so. You have a thought on San
Francisco. Are you not reaching for pure
Sol? But are you doing anything about
it? Yeah, I am.
I'm I I've been interested in both of those guys, but I've
taken a little bit more Jennings.
I'm trying to take in more pure Sol.
I I've been lower than him than I on a even prior to this
Jennings news, I was trying to mix him in more because I was
taking Jaden Reed ahead of him a lot, which really prevented my
ability to get pure Sol. I've been taking, unfortunately
Judkins and Caleb Johnson ahead of him.
And so it's less about like, oh, I think Jennings is going to get
traded or anything like that. I don't really, I think I think
at the end of the day, Jennings is just going to be back on the
49ers. But I am concerned that
Purestall is just going to keep rising to a price that I don't
want any of him. So I'm trying to make sure that
I I get him while I can before this is too unruly.
It's more about that I don't, I don't want to have a full fate
on him. By the way, Jacob Pete is
suggesting we put the draft board up.
If you can do that between pitch.
Oh. Yeah, short of.
The end. I'm just wondering what's going
on with his with his parents right now.
I do. I do appreciate that Pete is
like too busy to be on the show but not too busy to micromanage
the show from the background. Well, he can still be
puppeteering and I wonder what he's telling his parents he's
doing as he's like continuing to mastermind this show.
That's what I'm saying, like is this sort of a a situation where
they're watching is this dramatic in Pete's household?
Like the, the the craziness is a little bit much that the parents
like I'm I'm sure he's not like sort of getting them out of bed.
Come see what's happening on our ADP chasing stream right now.
But maybe, you know, whatever it was that was going to be
happening there with them right now, it's a little bit different
because what's happening to us is happening draft.
Board up. I've even, I've even zoomed in
on the draft board. Now we're about to be up, so I'm
going to take the draft board away, but I'll put it back.
OK, you have your there. It is what are we feeling here?
We got, we got two of the elite quarterbacks, we got JSM, we got
Hampton. You like tat?
I like Hampton or TAT. Hampton or tat All right, let's
do Hampton early. Let's do around 3.
Hampton then for.
I mean, it is, it is ADP chasing.
We can sort of test what we're talking about here with whatever
the effects of the news is are. Exactly.
We're. We're we're, you know, pioneers.
Just a couple of Canadians banging us out.
All right, So Collins, Thomas Hampton to start.
Thomas Hampton. That'll work.
All right, so OK, there goes Lamar.
With Henry, that's interesting. I kind of like.
That you it's not like very highly correlated within the
same game, but it's fun in terms of sort of that ping pong effect
where if you have, you know, one guy, the offense really succeeds
season long, probably both really good picks.
And then if one of them, you know, goes off in a big way one
week, probably a lot of that through rushing touchdowns.
Maybe that's not so great for the other guy.
Then the other guy gets the rushing touchdowns the next week
at low ownership. I I like stacking some of those
mobile quarterbacks with the running backs.
OK, I would be tat or Jaden Daniels here.
I will leave this in your hands. I'd be very happy with either of
those. McMillan for me pretty easily.
All right, let's do it. Quarterback is so interesting in
these. We have a Pete update in a
moment, just like it always seems to unless it's sort of a
rare draft where it goes sideways.
It always seems to come to you whoever the quarterback you
want. But the stacking is just not so,
not not as cut and dried as last year or in previous years with
the Eagles, with the Bills, with Jackson and Flowers like it just
always seems to. You're drafting these receivers.
DJ Moore, Worthy in the and Rice, even with the Chiefs,
Kittle and Purdy, it always seems to come to you.
So I feel better the longer I wait on quarterback.
But that means I'm going to get frozen out of the top guys.
Yeah, I I feel the same way. Like, I almost always like my
teams better when I wait on quarterback until that QB
window, like until we get into the range that kind of starts
with Kyler and Caleb and Nicks and Fields and extends all the
way into like McCarthy and Stroud and maybe even a
dependex. Stafford, Tua and I draft three
of those guys. But I I just I don't want to end
my season with like a 0% of all of Josh Lamar Daniels Think
that's so I have to I have to force myself to to take some of
those guys when one falls into the fourth round.
Hurts is somebody. Hurts is somebody that you can
get away with like he goes. So yeah.
He's rising now, he's rising now.
But I, I agree when he was going in like the fifth, he was a
massive stand for me. Now rising up into the 4th.
But but yeah, it's it's he's still someone that is a target
to me. So we're Hampton and three
receivers. Kittle is gone.
Kittle went before McMillan have.
You ever been in the Hamptons? You you live in New York.
I have. What's it?
Looking like in the Hamptons. It's, you know, glorious,
although today it'll be 95° and insufferable, so you'd better
have a pool. Oh God, on a day like today,
Never like that in Vancouver. It's even, no, it's
uncomfortably hot in Vancouver right now.
And the only thing is like, it's, it's like I, I don't know
what it is in Fahrenheit. I'm guessing it'd be like in the
80s, but it's been like in the mid to high 20s in Celsius
lately. Oh, is there any question?
We got to do that. We got to get the 100 double.
S back here. This believe it or not, is ADP
chasing RRRRR back at pier 51. Good 2 Jags.
But but neither are just a guy, all right?
This has been what I've been dreaming of.
This has been like literally the draft I've been dreaming of all
year is to get Brian Thomas in round two stacked with Hunter in
round five. I haven't gotten it the entire
year. I did it a few times with Hunter
and the fourth before he fell, but since he started falling,
I've been waiting on this moment.
Feels incredible. We just won Basketball Mania 6
and and thank God your Internet was became active because if
your Internet didn't get fixed, you weren't getting 50% of these
winnings. Now you are.
I still don't deserve 50. Percent now.
Now you are. And and don't don't assume my
Internet will hold up, by the way.
Well, you you get the percentage of the winnings that is equal to
the percentage of picks. You're Internet working.
For yes, I called, I wanted you asked me, you know McMillan, I
said yes. I think this is a running back
pick. Do you want to be?
Do you want to do Trevion or Connor?
We can go rookie rookie slappy or we can get get a nice veteran
presents up to you. Connor.
All right, James Connor, welcome to the team.
A stabilizing veteran. A slight detour.
Is that on brand? Is that bad?
I mean, I like Henderson too, but.
I like both of those guys. I think Stevenson starts the
season and maybe Hampton doesn't and we can.
We're going to want to load up on two or three or four,
probably not 4 rookie or young running backs late with a team
like this. So it feels good to me when I
get one guy that I think I can count on and if he stays
healthy, even better. Yeah, totally fair.
I like James Conner. I've all of like the old running
backs in that range. Well, Chuba's actually I think
is good, but well, I, I don't like, I like, I don't like his
price. I just think, I think he's a
good player. But like, if you look at Conor,
I don't really know why he goes behind Mixon.
For instance, I know why he goes behind Kamara cause Kamara
catches a bunch of passes. But like, I think Kamara is
pretty washed and is just living on volume.
I think Mixon is pretty washed and is just living on volume.
Conor I think is actually awesome.
Like all all of his advanced metrics profile the last couple
years are absolutely excellent. Other than him being old,
there's like nothing about him to not like and appreciate.
Right? So I'm I'm definitely warmed to
him in the 6th. I take Henderson much more
frequently but I it makes sense, especially on a team where we
only have the one running back. That running back is a rookie,
but not bad to get a get a fast starting James Conner.
While you're planning for your 7-8 turn here, may I interject?
So Pete, who? I don't know how sincere or
sarcastic or which this is, but I'm having to help you guys and
ignore my parents. It's like 10:30 in the morning
on a Tuesday. His parents are in from out of
town. There isn't I, I know I'm not
questioning his work ethic or anything.
Like are they really? Are they going to be OK?
Are are they going to be OK? If if you know, their son has to
go do a thing for half an hour? Are they going to what, what,
What is it he needed to be doing for them?
Cook. Making eggs?
What did he need to be doing for them?
Holding their hand around the park?
What is it right now that Pete's parents?
Are over, get a little over easy zat in the pan.
What are they supposed to be needing from him right now that
he is not able to deliver? I, I can't say, I can't say, but
I'm very grateful that he's holding our hands through this,
or at least mine as we navigate these waters.
I mean, what, what is this is, are they at the, are they at the
USS Constitution on Boston Harbor?
And they, they can't have a conversation about what this
ship means to American history. Like I, I just what?
What is it that they're not getting?
Hard to say. Hard to say.
All right, here we. Here we go.
Pick 8178 Turn. All right, so let's be back on
the clock here. We're putting away the draft
board for you. We're going back.
Just for the moment, yeah, right.
This view, All right, Caleb Porter goes there one more to
run. We have two running backs.
We have 4 wide receivers. We've not yet drafted a
quarterback or tight end. I don't think we're going to
start here. OK.
Is this I would probably be Mooney or a Buca?
Anything you want, this is all great.
It's all great. Well, we got you know what,
let's let's get on a fast starting running back here.
I'm going to go, I'm going to go off the off the beaten path for
my for me personally. I'm going to go Isaiah Pacheco
there that gets our third running back and then we can
take probably just whoever is our favorite wide receiver at
this 88 pick. And then we'll we'll look at
quarterback and tight end in the latter portions the draft.
I think Ibuka is sneaky hot in this range.
I mean, why did they do that? Like, they know their vets are
old, they're leaning into what they're good at, and he is so
likable as a prospect. I don't know, like, especially
if we're playing for the late weeks.
I love Ibuka in this range but the guy at 11 picked Ibuka and
Mayfield. Yeah, that's, that's
interesting. Are Pete's parents in this
draft? Are they in this draft?
Is that what he can we got? Help them with we got we got 2
correlated options here because we have Hamptons, we can go
Higgins, but we also have the two Jaguars.
We can go Pitman. I'd be happy either way, Pitman.
All right, that's. Pitman for me, yeah, that's
A100100 catches. I mean if it works at all.
All right, for the audio listeners, we started with Nico
Collins. Oh, we already had a Houston two
man, we're this team is so fucking correlated.
We know what we're doing. Nico Collins, Brian Thomas,
Marion Hampton, Tetaroa McMillan, Travis Hunter, James
Conner, Isaiah Pacheco and Michael Pittman, 0350.
Great. We're going to start trying to
address some quarterbacks in the coming picks.
I'm blinded by the red badges. So that's what you that's what
you earned by my dropping off and signing up for this draft.
Is everybody in the community joining in.
I love that. I love it when the.
Community, the community came together.
You know, I was stranded out here on an island unsure what to
do. I was going to have to start,
you know, repping off stand up comedians and then all of a
sudden. All all all of a sudden, the
chat carried me. Mike, did you see Pete just,
like, absolutely roasting you? No, let's go.
He said he said yes, Mike, my parents who live thousands of
miles away, who I get to see two to three times a year, should
take a back seat to you telling us about the weather in Buffalo.
That's fair. Ouch.
That's fair. I mean it, it's 1/2 an hour.
Absolutely, absolutely brutal stuff.
The weather in Buffalo like that takes long.
Longer than 1.5 seconds every week.
I mean, I don't. Know I, I will say, I will say
this to Pete. I'm not passing any judgement on
what is more important. All I'm saying is it's hard for
you to sustain that your time with your parents is so much
more important than ADP chasing while continuing to roast us in
the EDP chasing show. You're not really convincing us
of anything that you're you're not convincing us that your
obligations are that much more important considering you have
not been more than 30 seconds away from this show at any time.
Here we go, Here we go. We'll get back to this.
All right. This I, I would, I think Justin
Fields. I mean we don't have any stacks,
but we don't really need the stacks.
Justin Fields. We don't have the quarterback.
That seems a good plan to me. Love it.
Justin Fields is the best. We just double stand alone
option in any draft you can, you know, get it the other a year or
not. No, let's just do this.
Yeah, let's do that. All right, that sounds.
Good. Pick a second one if you want.
I mean, that's fine too, I think, but.
Well, so we have, so we, we have 3, well, we have 4 stackable
quarterback options that all come a little bit later.
So we could do Herbert with Hampton.
We definitely want Lauren if we can.
The question is if his ADP is 132.
So we'll be picking at 1:29, I think.
I think we have to push that and just hope for the best.
Herbert's ADP is 125, so he's also probably a push.
So I think the only quarterback option that we would want to
consider here would be like, well, it'd be May or DAC, but we
don't have either of those stacked.
We could back stack. May I?
I, I feel like we just push and try to get 2 at the next turn.
So I got burden in the queue, I got Scatabo in the queue.
I'll go out on ADP view. If there's anyone else interests
you here, we can do Mark Andrews as well.
I like both of these guys. Burden is a dream every draft
so. All right, sweet.
You don't have to. You don't have to convince me to
take Luther burden. That's no, that's, that's
certainly what I wanted to do. He is who I wanted the Bills to
pick in the second round. They traded with the Bears, I
think, and the Bears picked Burden.
The Bills never picked the receiver I want.
And sort of that's an ongoing theme here for the last five
years. But they they've won a lot.
You got to give them that. But Burden is very exciting to
me and in even in real life. But on a team like this, isn't
he just exactly what you want when you've drafted this team so
far? Yeah, when you've drafted the
winning team in basketball mania, I mean, you want Burden
to be a part of it, absolutely. So what's happened?
What's happened so far with San Francisco in this draft?
I haven't been tracking that like with Piersall or Jennings.
Let's. Let's take a look so.
Look at you all. Jawan Jawan Jennings went at 63
so people were not afraid. That's basically just his ADP.
Ricky Pearsall does go about 1/2 a round ahead of his ADP up at
66. George Kittle comes off the
board at 39, so he also goes reasonably ahead of ADP in this
draft. Do we have to get to know who
Tyrell Jordan Watkins is? Fourth round pick by the Niners
at this point, Is that something?
No. That we're doing?
No. OK.
I have no opinion of him as a prospect.
Don't have to know that. Yeah, I think that's fair.
I mean, Jennings, I have like no concerns personally that
Jennings is going to be traded or sit out of games.
It's cool that he's trying to get his.
Maybe the 49ers relent like a little bit, but like what?
They're not. They're not trading him.
They're trying to win a Super Bowl.
He's not going to sit out. He's Jawan Jennings.
Are you drafting out? I haven't been.
No, no, I think you're still OK. I don't.
Know. Vibes.
Vibes are weird. Vibes are weird and really bad
injury, like horrendous injury, but he probably gets a slight.
I I guess I just don't buy the Jennings like I I don't buy that
this actually changes anything. I, I I guess like to the extent
it does, it's like if he misses a bunch of time and can't, maybe
they just install less Jennings plays.
So that's that's I guess a a downgrade, But I don't think
it's like going to change anything in the sense that he's
not playing week one for the San Francisco 49ers.
That would really surprise me. So I'm I am trying to take
Pierce all whenever I can get him close to ADP just because I
assume he's going to keep rising, even if I think that's
kind of unjustified and I don't want to have none of him.
Kittle, I drafted a ton of early.
So if he goes screaming up the board and I end up just with a
lower exposure, but all the best prices, I'm I'm OK with that.
I can mix in other players and and I can sit on, you know,
exposure to a really good price. Yeah, you talked me into him,
which I'm glad for. We're waiting one more pick and
we we have a pretty clear preference I suspect, so don't
do it. Just Chad G20 don't don't fuck
around. Be nice.
You're not paying for this show, Chad.
G20. That that was a little bit
tilting cause Stroud would have been ideally our next pick, but
that's OK. We will take Trevor Lawrence
here. Of course, we already have the
double stack. We have the bring back.
All right, this brings us to A236 build remaining quarterback
stack options. Herbert and Stroud have been
stolen from us from our cold, dead hands.
We do have Bryce Young outs later in the draft, but probably
not with this pick. How?
Important is it to get the third with Fields and Lawrence on this
team? How important is that?
I think it's not like absolutely mandatory, but I would consider
it still preferable. The three quarterbacks are
simming so well. And you can't wait forever
either. Like these middle rounds are
where they all go. Like if you wait forever, you're
if you're Russell Wilson or somebody.
Yeah, exactly. I mean, we have Pitman so we
could do like a pretty late Daniel Jones, but it used to be
before Pat Korain ruined all of the fun, we used to be able to
do Daniel Jones like literally the 18th round pick.
That's no longer the case. You have to spend a real boy
pick now on Daniel Jones. This will be an easy pick for me
if he lasts one pick. Yeah, me.
I'm hoping we're on the same guy because that me, that me too.
I think it's a very obvious pick.
Dun Dun Dun. 20 seconds all. Right.
Tyler Warren. It's got to be Tyler Warren,
right? 18 picks behind ADP.
We got him stacked up. Let's do it.
We don't even have a tight end yet.
Perfect. How are you liking 20 seconds as
the rule? I wish it was 10.
I I want I want even shorter. So have they, mostly because.
We told we told Pete to come back at 8.
It's already 753. We will not be done at 8:00.
Is he going to let us? I mean, he's watching.
Is he going to let us go past? I'm not.
I'm not sure. I'm not sure, but I expect him
to scold us again. The first mandate for this show
when I signed up was Don't cut it short now.
Now we're really rolling here. And hopefully it doesn't get cut
short by, you know, the the man. Yeah, maybe he's pissed because
we're encroaching on his ship chasing brand by doing drafts.
You know, we're we're normally we're normally like, you know,
when Smallville premiere and it was no fights, no tights, right?
We're, we're like, we're the no, no drafts, no something.
That's where I get into trouble when it comes to superheroes.
But I think maybe his parents are the one O 2 and he doesn't
want to, you know, have it just be too tough, too tough for
them. Parents are the one O 2.
Have you seen Superman yet? I mean, I saw Superman in the
theaters as the show ever sounded older in whatever year
that was with Marlon Brando in it, I saw that.
Yeah, it's not that one. Going on, is that a no?
Is that? Is that a no for?
Your I mean it's the. Question you intended.
Technically true, but highly misleading.
I think that's how they would put that on CNN.
Yeah, I love it, but I haven't seen the new one because I don't
go to movies. Yeah, I think the new one's kind
of bad, but a lot of people like it.
A lot of people like it more than.
I did. We're back to the slappy slappy
zone. Yeah.
Exactly. It's bad, but it's good.
It's bad but we're happy. We enjoyed it.
We don't. Ever go to movies?
Why don't you go to a movie? I mean, they come into my house,
so I haven't been, well, what about movie theater a long time?
Like, don't you just don't you like seeing them?
That's fair on a nice big screen.
That's fair. With a little popcorn in hand.
I'm not against it. We do other things.
I guess teenagers, we're driving thinking I have a 15 year old
and as of today a 14 year old. We are driving.
My wife goes one way, I go the other.
Literally every weekend for like 10 weeks.
I was in Baltimore 2 days ago. I mean Albany, Columbus.
Next week is Lake George, which is great.
I mean, they're all. Fun not to cut off your naming
of mid tier New York cities, but I do want to note, as does our
job, Dylan Sampson goes at 143 in this draft.
That feels very notable with of course the quinch on jig.
I'm going to look up where did Judkins go in this draft?
Jackets went at 92, so right after my rank of. 9.
Samsung went about where my rank was.
OK, we are up. Bryce Young is gone.
They don't want us to have nice things.
I'm putting Bigsby in the queue. But anything else that you see
here in the interest of you? Bryant, but no we.
Can do it in the next round, I think.
Good. OK.
All right, Tank Bigsby, welcome to the team.
Continuing our our Jags Colts stack, that's a 2461 Now that
we're up to I'm going to put a couple, I'm going to put this in
the queue, lean in I'll. Put this in lean in buddy.
We wanted Bryant in the queue. I'll put Bryant in the queue,
put Bash in the queue. What do you what is the deal
with Besh like? We're not done.
We didn't draft enough of him in May like.
No, I haven't drafted enough of him, but we don't have to tell
you about this team. This could be a bachelor's team.
Davis also has like Besh. I'm getting into these mid
rounds where using Davis's rankings, like there's Jack
Besh, I thought he was behind other guys.
I don't even know if the Raiders are going to be able to do
anything. So I usually usually Passover.
I love I love Jack Bash. Me and me and Davis are aligned
on Jack Bash. The one thing you guys agree on?
Yeah, well, it's the one. It's the one slow player he
likes. OK, Is there a good reason not
to take Bretton? Strange.
No, but you said that like there is.
No, I mean. You want Bryant?
No, I think strange for me and I might be wrong on this.
The question is about how much is too much.
I see. And we're going to find that
out. That's that's what.
We're going to do in 17 weeks into the season, we're going to
find that out. We're.
Going to find out. We're going to find out.
Are you in the Dalmatian yet? So I haven't done the $101.00
version. I I will.
How many entries? Is that a three entry?
Is it a one entry? Three I did 1 fast, last three
entries good. I did 1 fast last night and then
two slows and I didn't like Google research on this
tournament, but for me it felt like weeks 15 and 16 were a
little bit more important. So I liked my team very much
last night. But that's what I'm thinking
about that tournament, just to put it out there in the.
In the sphere. Oh, I see.
It's like, oh man, it's like 2/3 full.
OK, I'll, I'll have to enter. I'll have to do these today
probably. So I'm glad you brought that up.
So we're at yeah, 2700 person field, nice flat payout
structure. I'm just by the way, not to
interrupt, I'm just seeing that Pete's mom is in the Dalmatian
with me and the one the slow 1. So that's I'll make sure not to.
Is it? Is it mother's that?
Is that the? Is that the name?
Feel free to throw in the chat what you think their usernames
might be. Their handles might be on
Underdog. Yeah, I'll do that.
The the mini Dalmatian, the one where it's the one dollar 101
Max entry that I I Max entered already and I put them all on
autopilot. I.
Just, oh, interesting. I entered in the ranks, I hit
the autopilot button and I let it RIP.
I have not had the courage to do that yet.
I still want to, you know, I'm a talk show host.
I want to have the controls. I want to.
My thing was just like, it's just not like I was like, am I
going to actually draft 101 teams like for $1.00 each?
Guys like that I have no interest in in doing that.
Like I'm not going to do a fast draft and that's going to take
way too much time. Slow draft, but I still want to
play. So I was like, I will sacrifice
a little bit of EV all up the ranks.
Do the talking for me. Yeah.
OK. We have 4 picks left in this
team. We're at a 2462.
We're probably going to wind up at a three.
What do you say, 363? Tight ends.
Three tight ends for sure. So is this maybe a three?
Yeah, probably A3573. Here's your Miles Sanders
moment, if you want it. Yeah, I have Braylon in the
queue, but we could go Miles Sanders.
I like Braylon Allen too. I like both.
I just thought maybe let's. Do Braylon Allen OK, let's do
Braylon Allen. When I think of Sanders, I think
of you in our earlier last call conversations, which by the way,
I think we can still do. It's an honor.
Yeah, We're doing last call,
we're doing last call. We're doing a rapid fire last
call at the end of this, we should probably do.
That. We got a little bit of a stack
on because we, we just took Braylon with fields.
So we're we're doing the back stack on on Justin Fields here.
For sure. Or Reynolds, but that's a little
early. Yeah, we're definitely not.
If we're doing Reynolds, that's coming in round 18.
I think that's kind of cool. I think that's kind of cool.
Reynolds. I mean, it's sort of jets,
right? I mean they paid Wilson veteran.
Who else is there? He's he's a little bit good.
If Fields works at all, like say they have a functional offense,
Josh. Reynolds is a little bit good.
Yeah, isn't he? No he hasn't proven that in 1700
years of being like annoying in fantasy or DFS because like
every once in a while he pops up.
All right, we took Mason Taylor there for the audio listeners,
so we get. 3rd dead end. This puts at a 2563.
We could take a third quarterback.
I agree that it's not 100% strictly necessary.
We definitely need at least one more wide receiver.
I think this will probably be either A3573 or A2673.
We resisted the urge this term to take the Army Brown, so we
have stopped at 5 Jacksonville Jaguars, 7 total from that game.
We didn't add a 6th Jacksonville Jaguar.
Who's that? Who's the rookie running back?
The look wins Allen. We're not.
He's not on our list. Quinn Allen is on our radar.
Parker Washington Certainly it's on our radar.
Yes. Well, good job here, Jacob.
I mean, you, you saved us. There was there was one show I
did a long time ago where, I mean, usually on these radio
remotes, I'm there alone or there's one more person who can
hook up the equipment. But as time is going on, usually
it's kind of just you. And I was at a horse track, a
race track and everything broke. Like I didn't have access to
callers. I didn't have any anything going
on. And I just decided to start
calling the races because I didn't even know if I was on the
air, but I feel like I should act like I, I am.
And I started calling the races and it was, it was hilarious.
Like, I mean, that was really fun.
So once in a while, of course, flight flight gets cancelled.
And Davis is on vacation doing everything he does normally,
which is tweeting and playing golf.
And so, you know, we made it work, I think.
Pete Pete berates us and bullies us from the chat.
Oh, yeah, it's, it's nice here today, Pete, by the way, like I
think it's 84 and sunny. So sorry I didn't give you more
detail. Do you want the barometric
pressure? Slide ready to go.
By the way, once we're, once we're done these last two picks.
Good point. I think I can do that.
This is the big moment. All right.
We're we got 2 picks to go, but in about 30 seconds we're
coming. We're coming for the last call
slide. Yep, ready.
OK, look at that. We're a fine-tuned machine.
It's probably the lack of helmets just going with the two
helmets go. With the two helmets.
Made the difference. All right, we are on the clock
here. Do you want Daniel Jones?
I want Daniel Jones, yeah. All right, OK.
And then we got to figure out a receiver here with our last
pick, Reynolds. My only my only hang up on Jones
would be like that. He and Lawrence are both in week
17, but we have fields. I'm, I'm against that when it's
when you only have two quarterbacks, but if you have
three, I don't think it's a big deal.
And we've invested so much in that game like it's got a pop
anyways. Like whether whether or not we
have Daniel Jones like we have, we, we already have Lawrence
Bigsby, Thomas Hunter Pittman, Warren Strange.
So like that, if that game does not pop, we're already dead.
So we may as well just continue to bet on Daniel Jones.
I'll put this out there if you want it.
Same offer I made to our Deep End Invitational guests last
year. The celebrity series, Trista
Crick, other people. If that game, if we're in the
final, you and I will go to that game.
Indianapolis, Jacksonville, it's your Colts.
Hell yeah. We'll be there if we're in the
final, let's go to Jacksonville for that game.
I think it's in Indianapolis. Oh, even better, it's closer.
I can drive there all. Right.
Sounds good. OK, Josh Reynolds, welcome to
the team. Let's go.
Well done. Here we go.
All right, we did it. Does the chat like our team?
Are they saying anything about it?
Can you not see the chat? Are you blind to the chat?
I have learned over the years not to look at it.
Good for you, good for you, they say this is a nice team.
Someone else said this is my favorite father son stream on
YouTube. Oh my.
Brett Jones does not like our team.
He says we won't have to worry about our travel plans, but.
Brett Jones is. Bad and wrong.
Oh my God, I really like that team.
Sweet team, you know everybody but Pete has been very nice to
us in the chat. So Pete and Brent Jones.
Shout out to the chat. All right, let's get the last
call screen out on the board do. You have it.
No, I I can't see anything. All right, good job there, Got.
It what you mean there? You don't have it.
I'm I'm not. No, I Weren't you the one that
Pete told how to do this? I, you know, he did.
You're right. You're right.
We'll give him the last. The last, you know, shot.
Who do you want? OK, the problem is that on the
last call screen I don't really know who's been taken.
I'm looking at it. I'll just go off the board.
OK, I'll just so I'll just name players and then you tell me if
they're go ahead safe. We're going to do it that way.
Yep. OK, I think I need a running
back. I think it it's, if memory
serves, I'm very low in running backs.
If three, unfortunately I unfortunately traded away Dylan
Sampson at the worst possible time.
What a move that. Was very painful.
That was very painful. All right is.
You have Jarquez Hunter, Nick Chubb and Mile Sanders.
Been taken by anyone? Who Sean Tucker is.
Sean Tucker been taken by. Anyone.
He's yours. Welcome to the team He's.
Yours. Welcome to the team, Sean
Tucker. I'll take Sean Tucker.
Oh, and my guy was taken by you made.
I was going to take Tutu Atwell. Oh no.
One one last one last hiccup. I think Josh Reynolds is
available. All right, fine.
Josh Reynolds. I'll take Josh Reynolds.
Just. Like all right.
Thank you everybody for putting up with our or my hiccups
through the day. Jacob, what's coming up with you
this week content wise? Oh man OK so I have full
rankings update up on thinking about thinking.
We got updated dynasty ranks, updated best ball ranks, and I
launched my first set of redraft ranks.
Those will get continually updated.
I think I should have an article out this weekend, but it'll be
not this week 'cause I'm in a hearing all week.
Catch me on Twitter. Of course, for whatever takes
come, I will. I will do an update tonight on
the basketball ranks to account for further Judkins, Jennings,
nausea, etcetera. Also unrelated to what I have
going on, but just so the chat knows, Jerome Ford is at 196.
We couldn't take Jerome Ford. We would have taken Jerome.
Ford I promise. I have Evan Silva today on my
show in Buffalo, WGR. And tomorrow is John Daigle, who
texted me the other day because he was at a party and there were
people there who said there's a restaurant in Buffalo that has
the best Indian food in the country.
So I'm like, OK, well, I know of 1, and this is it.
And he said that's the one. So now I have to go there.
But I think John is coming on tomorrow to talk about nobody
calls him John, right? Like, everybody calls these guys
by their last names in the fantasy world, which I hate
because, like, what a sign of disrespect that is, Like, oh,
you're my guest. I'm gonna call you by your last
name the whole time. Although I get that, but John
Daigle is coming on. Former Calgary resident, by the
way, Jacob, if he didn't know. Oh, I did not know.
And here's my favorite thing about him, on top of the fact
that he lived in Calgary, is that he moved to Australia.
John Daigle moved to Australia because he was playing online
poker and he thought he would get an edge by going to
Australia and playing Americans in the middle of the night.
How great is that? I mean, come on, that is
awesome. What a what a what a quote.
Literally. What a power move that is.
That's just tough. That's a great story, Mike.
Yeah, I'm not going to call you shop anymore.
Apparently it's disrespectful. You can.
Pete, Pete, if you're listening.
Wrap it. This the show is over.
Thanks for watching. Wait, not just me, Pete and the
show.